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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 23 | Tuesday Morning Update Podcast

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24:32 min | 1 year ago

Big Brother Canada 7 | April 23 | Tuesday Morning Update Podcast

"Darien rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feet up date for April twenty third. I'm your host Taryn Armstrong here this morning update. You on everything that happened yesterday on the big brother candidates seven live feeds a little bit of a problem, though. Because nothing happened yesterday. The big for the canon seven live feeds. Could really break record of shortest update. If we wanted to hear really, I'm being very serious. Nothing happened yesterday on the live feeds. Very very slow day. Very slow data feeds were down for a good portion of it. And and the portion that the feeds weren't down for were filled with pool tournaments and. Hanging out doing stuff. But we can we can talk here. I'm here. If you if you want to join me in the in the chat, you can you can ask me some questions we can see what we can do here. But. In terms of game talk. There was literally nothing really really nothing. We did get the veto ceremony. Damian took himself off the block atom replaced him with Mark so Mark and steer. Officially now. The two nominees for the week. Damian made himself a a little drum set out of kitchen stuff. He's very happy. And. Yeah. So he he played the drums a little bit ST helped Mark helped. That's going on. Adam Adam made in Jelica pet Jaguar named Henry. And apparently she got to go into the DR with them as well. So. There you go. Maybe Anjelica can play the drums. Yeah. Who knows? So so that that happened feeds went down for a long time as mentioned before beat because there was a big party here. In the house. They got very drunk apparently the feeds came back, and they were they were pretty drunk pretty drunk, Damian was giggling. Like, a madman. Adam was being very silly. Mark kept talking about Dana nasty. I I mean, I'm sure they haven't done anything because Dane is like a good guy. And he's told me that he hasn't done anything. But. Maybe he has done something. Under the covers over the covers sideways some somewhere. So that happened apparently ST was like trying to put her fingers in Adam's mouth. Pretty junk. And that's really that's really all it happened yesterday. I'm being serious. This morning asked puking into a bucket. A picture of her on Twitter. They're crazy. They're pretty bored in that house. The problem is that thinks that she's going to be okay because Mark is gonna leave in Mark thinks he's okay because ST is gonna leave. And. Pretty much it jet. All right. So let me know if you have any questions. Strategy wise. It does seem like ST will still be leaving the house that nothing has changed as I mentioned. So Adam is h now Mark and ST or on the block, and it looks like Kira and Anthony will be voting to keep Mark and ADEMA break the tie in favor of Mark and ST will go home. They are working on Damian's vote. They're hoping that they can get Damian to vote for ST to leave. But we don't know if that's gonna happen yet because it was much work done yesterday. But they were gonna wait until probably Wednesday or something along those lines. So. That's that Cody says com occurred Kobe's are even nothing happens here. Updating you. I appreciate this. Thank you. Why don't they get rid of Anthony? He is dangerous. The problem is that Anthony is not dangerous in the competitions. So that's why they keep them around for the most part. How did Adam Jack Eze apparently Adam like was like jumping into that hot tub or something? I don't know. But he like banged his toe. I think it's anything serious. Let's see here. Where can you find my interviews with Sam Corey Sam was released on its own? So if you search on rob as a website dot com, you can find it under the big brother coverage also be in the podcast feed on its own. And the Corey interview was attached to the Friday update, which I believe was April nineteenth. It should be at the end of that update. So if you're looking for that one find it there. Let's see here. Why hasn't ST cut on? Mark isn't campaigning. We're talking about SDN. What are you on? You're still confused on the final five deal of Kierra aren't adamant Mark supposed to be a fight. And after each other. They they reconciled Cryer to the veto competition where they had a conversation in the pantry where Mark pitched to them that hey, you know, what these other two Damian ST they're still coming after you. They're just pretending not to because you're in power. Whereas at least I'm straight up with you. And and if I stay than I will I will be number for you. And so because Kira really kind of takes the takes. Direction from Adam Allott because Adams seemed to be on board with marks pitch Kira was as well. And so that kind of led to this sort of final four thing. Plus, I think you're has always expected that the guys have been a little bit working together. And so they're just happy to be included at this point. Let's see. Let's let's see here. Cures. It Anthony is like a brother to to them. Yes. Yes. That did happen. And I believe Anthony said something along lines of like, I am big brother. 'cause I'm always the big brother. Let's see here. This fake backdoor. Plan is backed remark line is really working in pretty boy's favor. Yeah. It's working. Is last woman standing, yes. And she will be leaving this week unless something else changes. Nikki wants no if Dane wants to flip the vote. Do you think he could? Yes. Yes. I think he could get Adam onboard. And Adam would obviously be able to get here on board, and then they'd have Damian and they could take out Mark. And then I do think that would be Danes best move. I think that's Danes best interest because Mark is coming for Dane, not atom. And so is the one in more more endanger heading into the double vision and moving forward than Adam in my opinion. Because Mark Anthony have always talked about Dane over. Adam Dane is more threatening to them. So if Dane were were to get Mark out here. It eliminates the possibility of Mark winning the H in trying to target Dane, and it leaves SD in in the game ST with Damian, and he would have just flipped Adam and Kira he would have a group of five against Anthony. And and even if he didn't wanna go against Anthony, Adam would probably still be on board with with taking out people like Damian and SD. I I think it's it's much more endanger best interest to to take out Mark here. And I do think he could. But don't know if he's going to now, we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back. Back to the show. Let's see what's the theory on the chairs. Yeah. They woke up in their chairs in front of the TV in the living on this morning. Just like a bunch of like little folded chairs, I think. Don't know what they are. I've no idea. Honestly, I would like like normally I would guess like something to do with the like the awards usually have like chairs, but that's usually in the backyard, and it's usually at the final four or five, and we would know. So it's not that. So I really don't know. I don't know what the chairs for. But we might find out today. How much alcohol did they give these people? Apparently a lot early lot. Let's see here. What do we think needs to happen to get cured to flip their votes? I think Mark means to screw up or ST needs to campaign in a good way. But really, I think that's all that's all it is if everything stays the same here is not going to vote. Who's the most disappointing player? I had hide hopes for every player this season. I mean, I hopes for for gear and we saw that one. Still makes still making it far though, still could honestly win the season disappoint. So but still didn't play the way I wanted them. Roy predict for the rest of the season. I predict Damian leaves next in in Adam and Dane win the next couple of competitions. And then either Adam Danewin the season. I think that's that's the way we're going here. Can I rank the pretty boys in how likely they are to win at this point? That's a good question. I think it's tough. I think it was Dane, but I think Adams in a really good spot right now. So it honestly it could be Adam. And we haven't really seen Dane try on these days competition. So no, no, I'm I'm might actually go. I think Dana. Adam coin flip. I think that that Mark might be more likely to take Adam to the final three. So even if there is a spoiler in the final couple of competitions. Mark would take Adam and Adam would win. But I think Dane is more likely to win than Adam. And I think Mark isn't particularly like we went to. Deign Adam tied for I followed by Anthony fell by Mark. That's my that's my thing right now. Let's see here would Mark Anthony take a shot at Adam during the double vision. I think they would take shot. A Dane, that's that's what I've seen them talk about. I think that they would. I mean, they've talked about they talked about taking shot at Dane a couple of during the. During the Mark HOA tweak wins when Corrie was on the block. They were like, you know, I'm in. We should take shot Dane. But yes, I would I do expect them to definitely consider taking a shot at either Dane or atom more likely Dane, in my opinion. But either way I don't see it succeeding because all that needs to happen is one of day nor Adam to win the veto. And just like that. It's it's over the they can stay in. Honestly, then even even if even if Damian won the veto and used it on Dane than cure would go up and Adam day. So it's going to be very difficult for that to happen in the double vision. But I do think they might take the shot at at Dane or Adam I it could go either way. But I do think it's more likely, Dane. And honestly like I said doesn't really matter which one they take the shot at because I don't think either of them are likely to leave. How bitter do I think ST will be Dane in the jury? I don't think she'll be bitter. I really don't. That's just my guess. I don't think it's going to be a bitter, Jerry. I think that Sam is going to set the tone and. I think the I think the only bidder jurors are going to be Anthony and Mark in in maybe Corey because of Anthony's influence, so that's three of seven. So maybe it's going to be a slightly better. Jerry. The which has guest is most likely to be delusional about their game in fight with fans on Twitter after the season. Mark Corey the people most snowed by people like Anthony, prop them up that I feel like are most likely to. Anthony would be like don't listen to those fans your allying. It'll be like, yeah. I'm a lion. We'll see. Roundtable is tonight at nine pm eastern. Same time just moved to tonight. Yes. Thank you. We will have the roundtable tonight. We'll do these stock watch everything the formal the out after this podcast ends will work on getting that out as soon as possible may wanna know who's handling the good-bye messages. The best. I think Adam did a pretty good job. In his his decor. So I might say Adam so far. But I mean, it's salmon Corey so far. So Sam is obviously getting Adams is Adams vote for Adam. And I think he did well with with Corey so. Who do I want to see win the next h in? Why I kinda would like to see Mark when the next day to take a shot at Dan because I do think it would fail, and I think that would cause some big drama and lead to a more exciting again. So that's what I'm kind of hoping for or maybe Damian Damien on to. Since they were all toasted last night. What is the likelihood that loose lips will sink ships from drunk talking? I do think the Mark kind of was talking a lot to Damian Damian seemed to have taken something from it. Like, I don't know what's happening in this house. I'm just the block star. But I don't think anything was said that I can tell from so far seeing anything. What would be a good week to hold your cash position by buying only? One share of stock. You only lose the weekly twenty dollars, right? I believe you have to put it all in you can only keep so much. You have to you have to invest, but you can you can try to diversify to protect your your investments. So that's what I would suggest especially on a double of action week. That's what I did last time. It didn't work out for me last time. But but double vision weeks very dangerous. So I'd suggest diversifying your portfolio and making sure you have. Shares in many many different players. Let's see I would have a hard time keeping Stephen ever campaigns. Care needs to flip people want that to happen. Is Dane throw incomes going to hurt him at the end if he's up against Adam possibly possibly. It's a good point. But he doesn't really want to be up against Adam. I don't think he might want to. But. I don't know if I think like momentum council, and so if you wins the last couple of competitions than I think he'll be fine. If Anthony actually makes it to final to Orissa have to shut him up on his love final speech. We'll see angry. I think they'll be fine. I keep losing my place in the chat here. It's very nice. Ruin his chances to win by exploiting on the pretty boys and telling them all that he can. And we'll beat them at the final four. No, no. They didn't care about that. He was saying that the he'd beat them in competitions. And they don't believe him. They think he's just being delusional. I don't think Damian will be I think Damian will want to vote for the nicest player, but I don't think it will be because of bitter feelings. If that makes sense Damian thought that Paris deserved to win because his interpretation of pairs versus Kayla. Is that Paris was nice and Kayla was mean and therefore Paris deserve to win. But I don't think that he will be bitter. Because like he's mad at somebody. Like, I want you to lose. Just vote for the person that he feels is a nicer and better representation of niceness. Is Adam the only H not his h this season. I think Dan did a pretty well do with his h is so adamant Dane, really the only the only two. Do I think each pretty boy other than Adam plans to cure the final two thinking, it's an easy win. No, I don't I think I think most of them would take care. I think Mark is really one of the only people that. That would take care down to the end. Will someone tell us the Dane was just voting for her for jury vote. Yes. I think so I I mean everybody knows except for SD basically that Dane that this is only a symbolic vote. And so it's definitely going to get back to ST. But but I don't think ST will care all them much. I think she'll be annoyed. But I think that Dane will be able to be like, of course, it was only symbolic I votes. Aren't there? You know, it was a just like Adam voting for San. Because that's the thing with four people. They're all doing the same stuff. So I don't think I don't think no matter that much are pretty boys. The greatest alliance ever. Potentially the most successful alliance ever potentially. Nick, the only had versa fide in the stock watch. I lost my leads and I'm against doing that. Yeah. That's what happened to me too. But. Played safe. Sometimes who knows. Why isn't anybody considering taking Daime into the final two mostly because the pretty boys are all taking each other the final two for the most part? And they mean is also very very likable. Very like. What major moves to either Dane or Atta make that weren't run by someone else. I mean. Most of their moves. I think. I mean, most of the moves were a collective decision. I think Anthony directed a decent amount of them. But Adam Adam took out Laura four Sam he took out Kira took out Mackey. He protected Kira? He. You know, lots of things I don't think that either of them have been directed by by people too much, Adam even creating the alliance to begin with. And then Dane has been doing moves on his own as well. So. Hey. What happens in Damian slash cure, H, I cure would target Mark. I think that they would put market Anthony on the block and Damian would probably also target Mark because Adam and Dane plan on approaching him with some kind of final three deal. And I believe he will take that. So my guess is that he would target Mark. And honestly, even if they don't propose the final three deal. I think you'd probably still go for marks marks so annoying and. I think Dane would would would push for that as well. So. Probably Mark Mark would be in trouble. So so yeah. Heading into the double h I think Anthony is the safest I don't think Anthony leaves in any scenario the double vision. And then I think Adam is the next safest with Dane, I think Adam and Dana, very safe. Like, I said, even if Mark wins targets them the veto the way the veto should play out should be totally the it should be athletic veto, and the three most most athletic people winning the veto. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Here would target Damian. What am I saying? Sorry about that. I was thinking more Damian. Retarget damian. I apologize because of the the final five deal. Anyway. The three most people in the house if they win veto then it would take one of the one of the guys down. And I believe Ataman Dane would be safe. Then Mark would be the next safest and then Kira, and then Damian is the most in trouble. I think most scenarios and with Damien being being a victim Damien winning is the only scenario where he's probably not a victim. And Mark might be victims in that instance, and or potentially Kira and Damian or Kira might leave if Mark wins and tries to take a shot at Adam or Dane, so. There you go. You think Anthony only leaves up against Dane, maybe Adam. I don't see how that happens. Yes. Exactly. It's I I don't know. Nobody puts Anthony up with atom or Dane. Not likely to happen. So. There you go. That's that's got for you this morning. Like nothing really happening. We're just gonna speculate toward the double fiction and see see what's happening here. But make sure you tune into night for the roundtable talk about this week talk about the stock watch and everything there, and we'll have some fun. So make sure you fill out the form, you can find it on Twitter at Armstrong, Taryn and. Thank you for joining me. We'll see next time.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 5 | Friday Morning Update Podcast

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1:03:12 hr | 1 year ago

Big Brother Canada 7 | April 5 | Friday Morning Update Podcast

"Gary Armstrong, big, brother. Yes. All those chatty in sandy. You know, the ring Hugh. Rob said that he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for April fifth. I'm your starring Armstrong. And with me today is I didn't brea I'm doing really well, Terry. Let me be the third person to issue a happy belated birthday believe we now share the same age. We're both twenty-seven. And hopefully, we both have a good year this year s we can find out who's trying to back door you last week, very important. I really wanna know who came up with it who was told in when it's very important. We'll get to the bottom of it. Yes. We are here to tell you everything that happened yesterday on the big brother candidates seven live feeds it was day thirty four in the house, and we had an addiction. We had a blood veto a lot of things the feeds were basically out for most of the day prior to the Vic Shen, but KiKi did make some last final campaigns. We heard about them kind of after the fact, and apparently how this went was something along the lines of she had gone to a couple of people to be like, hey, you know, I want you to do. Well in the game. I hope you give me my your vote. You know, get rid of Mark. She also had talked to Dane and Dane tried to give her some advice as a friend. Like, hey, look, you know, you've been telling people that you have four different targets you need to narrow that down to one. You can't be saying too many names. That's what mama did that's a Mackey. Did. It's too much. It's what Chelsea did. And so she said, I don't go against I don't I don't go Adam and Sam I don't wanna go against Anthony's at art. Then you got Cory say you're against Cory. What can you say against court? And so she's so she started campaigning against Cory. And then when she talked to Corey. She was she was like saying some things about you know, stuff that she'd heard about Corey and all of this stuff and Corey at the time was thinking, hey, Dana said, my name, Dane has been talking about backdoor and me she was not feeling good about Dane and Corey is the one that turned KiKi turned her eye on two Dane came. I think that there's somebody close to you giving you information that is bad for you. And that might might be the reason that you're in this position in the first place. And so that's that's why KiKi went, oh, it's Dane and decided to go off on Dane in her eviction speech, which we saw on the episode. It happened before she was eventually evicted by a five to one votes or really one zero vote when cure decides not to use the blood veto. So that's what happened. Yes. As you mentioned, very eventful day. It really the only interesting thing come out of all of this is that corey's name gets. Brought up like this in Koreans of becoming an intricate part of before the vixen. And as we now find out post, the vixen corey's name is going to be the most interesting one to look out for this week. And just so I get to put my two cents on it. I think we just pretend the blood veto wasn't ever thing. And we move on really just wasn't ever really thing. And we can move on. And just hope that it never comes back. Please. So what's what's interesting is that KiKi going off on Dane in her victory speech, actually, in in many ways was ironically, a big help for Dane because he then got to be very hurt and sad. And oh, why did that happen and Corey ends up? Regretting what she did what she said to KiKi. She feels like, oh, I think I might have crossed the line. I can't believe KiKi went off on Dane like that. And and it's really going to help him get back in good with corey's good graces, which is important because Corey has won the new h h it came down to Corey and Adam and Adam made a deal with her for safety and dropped now. I don't know the details of this deal. I think I have to imagine. It was something like, hey safety for me and Sam because there has been talk of that. But. But it was some kind of deal for safety and Corey is now the H. Yes. And like, you alluded to with the whole Dane thing. I feel like Corey someone who doesn't like the going back on your word or making someone feel bad our national TV, and the fact that she gave this. They had this deal worked out within the H looks like Adams going to be safe, but the asterik or the addendum of Sam will be interesting to look out for now here because San wasn't really up there. Also, another thing I would like to note is that this endurance competition dinner early last all that long as fifteen minutes is what we're hearing. I figured like. Yeah. It's hard to hang upside down like that. I don't care if you got your legs too. I mean looking at how everyone struggled to get on there to start. It did not look like it was going to go all that long. So. So so we have a bit of a crazy night as we have a lot of things trying to get settled here. And really the main the main part of it is going to be Anthony Dane are going to really be coordinating a lot of efforts and people and movement in order to make sure everything goes into place in the way that they want it to. So we started off the night with Dane in panic mode. Corey just won the H in inquiries. The reason that KiKi just went off on him. This is not looking good SD tells him. Yeah. Kira told me and Corey and the rest of the people that that you and atom or the people that came up with the backdoor Corey plan. And this is news today. He did not know that he was attached to this plan. And to be clear Dane is is swearing up and down that he had nothing to do with it too. To Anthony to SD to all of his allies. Even though he definitely did. I mean, right after the Corey backdoor plan came up. He was like, I did it. I made this happen by telling Sam she wasn't the alpha female anymore. But either he's doing the like deny until you die thing or whatever. Like where he just like is like, no if I keep saying, it's not true. Then people believe it's not true or he's lying to himself, which almost seems likely at this point is well that like, hey, I didn't technically say corey's name. I was I had nothing to do with it. So Dane is like no no nothing to do with this. He's finding out that the curious that his name and all of this stuff is happening with Corey. And so he's very worried here that you know, that especially especially because it's not only that he's attached to it. But it's him and Adam. And now he's worried that he might go up on the block next to Adam which would be the worst possible thing. So he needs to. Make sure he gets his story straight with Anthony, and Adam and Damian and everyone. Yeah. This is the second week in a row now will become out of the feeds blackout post, Vic Shen and a pretty boy is terrified of what's going to happen to their fate, and they're panicking. But he did take the opposite approach tomorrow. Whereas Mark was like let me just go be up front with Dane, and he wanted to step further and spill more beans. I think you're right. I think Dane here is trying to buy his own nonsense and also denied till you die like just just trying disassociate as much as possible because he doesn't want to sit up there with he doesn't want to be up there with Adam. Obviously he knows that he's could be in deep trouble here. But his hope is that it's not him. He's next to it. Somebody else outside of is four. So that he can maybe salvage something here. Yes. So he Adams in meantime, going to go to Mark. And Adam is also worried now because he's hearing these this wind of like, oh, it was adamant Dane, and he's like, no, no, no, no. And he sees the Dane is running around. And he's he's concerned. The Dane is going to try to throw him under the bus to keep himself SD safe. That's not. Okay. This shouldn't be falling on me and markets. Like, no, no, you're right. You're right. You're not gonna do that like Marcus trying to keep the peace, but Adam is really upset right now. Yeah. His gears are turning. I mean, it's not easy to be one of the last two on a competition fall down feel safe. And then immediately start hearing stuff and get worried, obviously. And Adam we're talking about you've been a little cagey when it comes to moments like this. He hasn't had to feel this way often because of given how most of the time the winds have been either him or Dane hammered gained for a long time. This is kind of the first real time where I don't think he feels like he has any control over his fate here. Which is true because it's Corey it wasn't Chelsea wasn't Sam he should be worried. But he didn't think you have to be where this much after that deal. So he's scrambling. Yes. So Adam is going to have a conversation. A with Dane, it's pretty tense. They have this in the Aloun, and they're really getting getting into it Dane is like look the main. The most important thing is the we don't go up on the block together. That's that's terrible. So like nothing else matters, but Adams like, yeah. So who goes up Sam? Like, it doesn't matter. If you go up on the blog mixed Sam, you're fine. If I go up on the block next to SD, I'm fine. We just can't go on the block together and Adams like this should not be blowing up on me. I had nothing to do that. I nothing to do with it either. Okay. Like, we just need to make this to make this work, and they are not making this work in this conversation. Not at all. It's actually really funny to see because like you said Dane wants to go out of his way to make it known. Hey, I'm with you. I care about you. Don't want it to be us. But also, I just wants to not have his name be in the mix at all here. He doesn't think he's desert. He deserves this at all. And he gets angry at one point within this. Could've been one. I was right there. Now have to worry. Now. My name's out there in the mix. So this is not great. But also, obviously what else comes out in this conversation is that Adam will still be looking out for Sam, regardless of how these ships fall. And no matter how much Dane is going try and push that listen if you're next to her, we're fine. Because of all I'm next ST were fine. It's not enough for him. He doesn't he wants his cake, and he wants to eat it too. And right now, it's looking like he can't have both and he's not happy. So. So. So. So there's some stuff happening right now. They're they're deciding nominations. So we then get Kira in Corey they have a little bit of a conversation. Kira has seen that this whole backdoor things starting to blow up and so- cure wants to make sure that Corey knows the story is I did not name names that I did not name names. Right. Right. Right. Corey like, okay. Okay. So that's that's going on there. Adam is going to go to Sam he's pissed. He says Kira apparently told ST that it was him and Dane came up with the Corey backdoor and day. That's dangerous told him and he's like, that's that's not. Okay. And Sam is trying to pin this on Dane like, oh, yeah. This is just classic Dane trying to get the blame off of anyone. But himself and say says, don't worry, Adam. We're fine fine. We're good with with Anthony. We're good with Cory. We can trust them. And Adams like how okay just on like this on like this. I like my name out there. And so he's very very upset in SAM's story. It's stain being Dane, he's he's Sam right now. Feels like Dane he's in the crosshairs. She's had conversations with Corey where Corey has been like, hey, I'm coming for Dane Corey flipped KiKi against Dane Sam feels good right now. Yeah. And this honesty is reminiscent of a bad Rahm com where the guy's best friend and his new girlfriend are butting heads and one of them can have him. And it's just a matter of which one they're going to do everything. They can't throw them under the us and curious kind of this point, SAM's best friend in that movie. And this this quadruple fight that they're having right now. Sam's nothing to worry about because it seems like she's winning this war. She's winning this battle Dane is days goose's cook. If she has anything to think about because of everything that's been laid out so far this night. It doesn't look like where she just has to calm down her pit bull, aka. Adam. And that's all she's trying to listen. You can't be like this. It makes you guilty like just don't just calm down. And we'll pick up the pieces you're going to be. Okay. That snake Dane, it's all day. Yes. And something else that happened in the cure Corey conversation. Is that Corey talked about next week? She feels pretty good because she has Adam and Sam Anthony and all of these people competing in the HOA JR. Who she feels good with? And so right now, I'm thinking Corey she flipped KiKi against Dane, she's been bonding with Sam she's she was talking about targeting Dane with Sam I'm thinking, hey, these nominations could be Dane and ST. And if that's the case, this might be a tricky situation, if if if Corey wants Dane gone, then there are six votes. The pretty boys are three of those votes. The other three votes are Damian. Sam and Kira? I think it's a really hard sell to say to Damian Sam and Kiera. Hey, yeah. ST is the bigger threat here. We really need ST to go. I think that's a really hard sell. And I think that they could be an spot where it's like three three vote, maybe they can get one and keep Dane safe or maybe they can flip Corey and keep Dane safe. But no matter who they have to flip. It's a hard sell. And again, kind of puts them in a situation where they're outing themselves where it's three guys, plus whoever slew able to flip and Adam will be voting not with Sam and so on and so forth. This is again, potentially tricky situation for them depending on how this plays out. Yeah. And I think you wanna talk about who else comes off looking like and sad hurt puppy dog. It's SDS just lost. What you could argue in that house to be her number one. And only person she looks alone right now, this she looked reddening not in the least bit. So putting her up next. The Dane if Dane is truly who you want to go might be one of the harder sells here, and you might have to look into. Doing that. And putting Dane up next to someone at least somewhat formidable in the eyes of people. So that it makes it easier. But I will say if that is what happens it would be interesting because of the divisions you just laid out. It would be very intriguing to see what happens here, especially since aside from the macula vote, we've really not had anyone or any faction go against any type of grain at the last like so now we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. So we get we get atom. Are we adamant Kira? Adam is going to go to Karen. And be like did you say my name? Did you say it was me? And Dane that came up with this Corey thing cures as no did not say that. And it was a well dangerous told me that ST told him that you said it was me Dane, and here's. No, no. It's not you. I don't know. I don't know where to got that from what I guess I gotta go to ST in St. what's what's going on there and cures like we'll obviously s just going to if ST already lied, obviously ST is going to continue to lie. Obviously. Like, what are you thinking at him? He's like, Well, I I just don't like that. I just want to get the bottom of this. I I don't I don't like this at all. And as. Curious just like this into calm down at them. You know, going to ask these not going to help anything. Everything's fine. And so then they just keep going on and on. But, you know, curious says at the very least would just wait just wait until tomorrow. You're up right now. Just wait until tomorrow talk test. Yeah, they have anything to do with it. They do not want this. But obviously we've taught again, it's Adam Adam is angry. He wants all the answers. He wants us cake, and he wants to eat it too. So he would like to get to the bottom of this ASAP waiting till tomorrow is not what Adam wants. But obviously, it's better for Kira. Because if that is to happen that much closer to NAM's let happen that everything blows over we're fine. But explosive stuff is not going to be good. And I don't think you're a wants to half Abba confrontation with Adam about anything or to deal with any stress tonight. Yes. So Sam is going to talk with Cory and their dancing. They're excited. You know? You know, this is this is what they talked about earlier in the last few days is Sam says, you know, I I missed my shot last week. Maybe I should maybe I could have handled my h differently. I maybe I should have tried to find a way to take a shot at pain. I just didn't see how, but you know, now Kiki's gone now, we can take this shot. You're the only person I've talked to about this Dane thing. And I trust you Corey like, let's let's do this. In corey's idea. I totally I'm totally with you, totally super super smart only, tell me about this this thing. So. So everything's good. And yes, it's been so frustrating because I can't talk to Adam about Dane, he trust Dane too much. I think they might have something together with the working together. But that just leaves me on the outside, and I don't like that. And just more and more just opening up and telling Corey all of these things and Corey wants to know about Kiki's campaign. Something I was confused about what a key tell you today and Sam I don't talk to today and just like. I mean in storage in the pantry. All. Yeah. She she was personal stuff. Okay. Okay. And so they have this conversation. It seems like it's a pretty decent one. But there's also a lot of stuff happening. In the meantime, Anthony is gonna join this Sam Corey conversation. But first we're gonna talk about some other conversations that Anthony's having other people are having right now. It's going. Well, it's they're happy. Sam is like all right. Let's take this shot at Dane, we're going to make this happen. Things are good. We got this. Yeah. Everything's looking really good. And for all intents and purposes, it looks like these two are building some type of understanding a bond and a relationship which is also great for both parties involved. I did catch a glimpse of this conversation where corey's talking about trusting. And how I waited to not tell you things because if I tell you now now I can see where it's coming for like it was a little bit dancy. But compared to every other conversation that was going down last night. This was the more the more solid once party. So. Yeah. So in the meantime, Dane is talking to Mark now Dane is complaining to a tomorrow about Adam. So out of was complaining to Mark about. Now Dane is complaining to Mark about Adam. And he needs to come down. He's going nuts. Mark says don't don't worry about it. I can talk to Adam he listens to me. It's kind of like a bad cop. Good cop kind of thing. It works. So just let me keep the peace. And it's really true Mark is really sort of the glue that helps keep them together. When they get really mad at each other. Kira is going to talk to Anthony they're going to run to Anthony and Anthony is really just more and more becoming the mentor confidante for Kira where Kira goes to Anthony Anthony, people are lying about me. Putting my name out there. I don't like this. And then those like, you gotta you gotta relax. You gotta you gotta calm down. You don't think you don't think people are gonna do this this. That's the game. That's the game you need to you need to you need to just relax you to calm down. And remember you have a good relationship Corey. Everything's find cures like. For next week. I just don't it's just annoying when people put my name out there. And he's like, hey, hey, that's the game. You gotta you gotta accept that. You know, you don't think people are gonna come to me some some day in a few weeks and be like, hey, hey, curious, saying all these all these things about you, whatever whatever whatever and and cures like, no, no. I'll be like, hey, hey, I'll go to you. It'll be like, hey, I've been hearing these things, and I think they're true. Like, let's just get to the bottom of this. That's that's that's just how it is with me. And that's how we'll handle it. And you just you need to calm down. Selects? Don't let it get to you. Okay. Yeah. You're right. You're right. I gotta chill. Okay. Thank thank you. Remember kids? Stay humble, Anthony. That's that's the Lord of the north foyer right there. Mr. Anthony just kind of keeping the lid on for now. And I do think this whole mentor men t- village ship is something that's would be something worth looking out for with regard saying he and Kira and how this dynamic unravels their games of the house. Yes. So then we're gonna get we're gonna go back to Sam and Corey because after this conversation, and then he's going to go up to the trim and he's going to join the salmon Corey conversation. And this is something I tweeted about because it was very funny. So joins the conversation and Sam wants. So do you have do you have any thoughts like what you plan to do yet? And. So how this how this is positioned here is that Corey is sitting in the chair and Sam is on the couch to the right? And then Anthony is on the sitting on the same couch further to the right. So from how it's looking. Sam is looking at Corey and Anthony's kind of behind Sam also looking at Corey. And so when Sam asks Corey, hey, do you have any buddy in mind like any thoughts yet? Anthony just looks straight accord and shakes his head. Corey says, I just need to process I and he he nods his head. Yes. I heard about this. And then I believe BB tombs responded with the with the clip of it only to re tweet that it's very funny. I also said like to be clear it is. We didn't have a watch out of this. It is possible that Anthony was just kind of like unconsciously just kind of like nodding and shaking his head to the conversation, which he does from time to time. But it definitely looked like he was looking straight at Corrie trying to direct her in in this moment. And it was very funny. Yeah. Whether it was or wasn't was good to watch. And also it worked because Corey definitely did exactly what Anthony subconsciously would've been saying there. Yes. However, she does say to Sam. But don't worry. It's not gonna be you're atom. At that point. Anthony, I'm sure is like. I nodded too soon. Yeah. It should have held out for this moment. Great. Yes. So then Sam is going to leave and Anthony is going to talk to Corey. And so the very first thing Anthony does. So I talked to Dane and Dane told me like, oh Sam she so shady, I think she came up with this whole thing dependent on me. And I was like, you don't think already know that Dane, I know how I know how shady Sam is like, of course. And like I've noticed now that Anthony does this a lot where in order to make his point to somebody that he's talking to he will say that he was talking to somebody else, and he will either make fun of that person for something that like like, oh, how awful of this person that he actually wants the person he's talking to to realize like it's that sort of thing where it's like if you know that some. Stole cookies from the cookie jar. You'll talk to that person. And be like, hey, can you believe Bob Bob stole cookies from the cookie jar? He's the worst. I hate him. We should beat him up. It's he's he's terrible. And then the person that's still cookies. Yeah. Yeah. The worst. And then they'll never want steal cookies again. Yeah. So that's what he does. And so and so that's part of it. And so another part of it is like, hey, Dane told me how shady Sam is. And I was like, you don't think I know that already it's obvious. I know that which is a way to display to Corey that. Like, this is a well known fact, we're not dumb, we know this. And so and so after he says this to course. Yeah. Sam super shady, and I was like what? What happened to the days of bonding with each other where did that go? Oh, my God course playing Sam this whole time. It's incredible. How how a little bit of Anthony just, but we're not dumb ones. Like, obviously, this is known. That's all it'll take and it takes with ory. Now, obviously there is a part of me. That's like maybe she's kind of like playing up to Anthony's feelings right now like 'cause obviously on the on the regular their relationship seems fine. But if it was her relationship with Anthony is like this more than anybody. So of Anthony fills a certain way, she's going to take that information with more weight than any other feelings she's been have. Yeah. So I she she's like, yeah. You know what? Sam did she signed straight to my face. Saying the KiKi didn't campaign to her and Adam today, and then I pointed out a what about the pantry and she was like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The pantry and I was like, oh, man. These like, Yep. Yep. I knew what about what about in telling you this whole time. I don't think it was. Dane, I think it was saying I think it was Sam and she went to Adam doubts. What happened with the back door plan? She was like, yeah. Pretty sure that's the case. And. Talking about Sam and how shady Sam she's the worst. She's so she's so Machiavelli and his man news mayors. She's bad news bears. Sam's bad news bears. ST is bad. News bears. Adam he's with the bears. But you know, we can save him for later. Incense? So he's really pushing this like you can't trust Sam you can't trust them. We it would be great. If we get them out. And you know, they don't really talk targets. Adam is eventually going to interrupt. But really just Anthony making sure that he has Cory in the right spot making sure to protect Dane and to make sure the Dane does not go on the block as a target at the very least, and that Sam is in corey's mind as a potential target or at the very least ST as a backup. If Corey won't go after Sam because even if Sam doesn't trust even trust Sam, she didn't make a deal with Adam. And she also feels like at least now SAM's not coming for her because Sam has bigger fish to fry mainly Dane and something else is that Anthony mentioned to Corey that you why why do you think SAM's coming after day because if deigned one this h Sam would be on the block, San would be going home, and maybe I shouldn't have won. And so I think part of what's in corey's mind as well as that. Maybe. Need to take out Sam, maybe that's Danes job. So, but but but Anthony is in her head. We are not going to see the situation where Dana nastier on the block together. Where Dane is the target. If they do go up together, it would be Esti as the target or whatever the case may be but the guys seemingly safe as long as Anthony has something to do with it here. Yeah. No. He put in a shift for them, especially when they couldn't save themselves. He's made sure to try at least divert the attention away. And I do think all of this will come to a head where Cory will come to realize. Hey, if these two are going to go after each other if they'd want Sam Sam wants Dane, then if they both stay just good for me. So that'll be something to keep it. The other thing I wanted to touch on is that the same people that we're talking about. Now, we're literally talking free minutes before we got on Teheran and slithering Sam became a thing. I heard I think moving forward slithering Sam should be in our vocabulary. Yes. So. So ST is bad news, bears, pajamas pyjamas. But it's not look I Anthony hasn't fixed this yet. But I've I've declared that ST is now just a banana in pajama, okay? Because Kiki's gone there's no more to of not too many moral. So that's that's that. So Sam is now slithering San. Makes them. And yeah, I think that's that's bad. News bears will have to move to somebody else. I think once Sam 's dear gone. Maybe it'll maybe it'll be atom. Maybe Adam will be the bad news bears. Yeah. And Anthony's Lord of the north. That's yeah. So Adam is gonna talk to Korea. He comes interrupts the Anthony Corey conversation. He is still just like, I'm just I'm just frustrated too. Frustrated. That's not me in mispronouncing frustrated, by the way, that's Adam mispronouncing frustrated, and can I just say again, the the weary wary thing, right. They always say, I'm really weary of this person. When they mean to say, I'm wary of this person. And it's like it's like, it's it happens a lot and big brother, but like really really bad this season. And I also just started listening to an audio book where the author uses weary and wary a lot and every time I hear weary. I have to think of them mispronouncing and big brother and takes me out of the story, and I'm very frustrated with them. So I'm sorry, very fustrated with them. So I would like for them to stop. You guys are ruining audiobook listening experience and he's not happy about. Yes. Big brother needs to interfere. This very important matter. They need to say, hey, guess what? Guys. It's wary. I'm wary of your vocabulary. Houseguests Canada's listening and they're not happy with your grammatical mistakes. Okay. Yes. Anyway. I'm I'm very frustrated with the situation. And he's like, apparently my name is been dropped. And I don't like this Dane told me that Esty said that the curious said that it was me. And Dane, and it was not me Dane and just come down. It's fine. You're fine. I believe you. I never thought it was you don't worry about it. Relax. This is exactly what Sam didn't want. This exactly what none of them want out of needs to calm down. It's pretty incredible to me that as a big guy you're coming in looking like a physical threat and kind of everything's worked for your name has really been brought up you're having at the sit on the block you've been winning vetoes when your name comes up. Once it's natural. It happens. It's the game. Relax, calm down. You just made a deal at least make it seem like you believe this deal has any weight. Don't try, and you know, bring this stuff up look all upset making it look like you don't trust this person. Is going to honor the deal. So none of this is good. But obviously at this point enough work has been done corey's. They just don't even think about it. You're fine. So in the meantime, they're Dane is talking to ST again trying to make sure that their stories lineup. Numb ST is then going to start to go up to talk to Corey. And then Anthony comes in. So this is really funny, and I'm gonna say. Watching Dana Anthony over the course of the night. Improbably back the big brother sixteen it brought me back to Derrick Cody the way that they kept coordinating moving their pieces around the board getting their stories straight. I'm serious. It was straight straight out of big brothers Ecksteen. And I know that you know, that's not a favorable comparative many people, but but it's it's part of what I liked watching because it is interesting like how they how they manage to do this because they also are very good at sort of unspoken communication. Anthony comes into the pantry and he's able to sort of like, you know, get deigned to like go in talk to him. And he says we need to go talk right now. And Dana is like is it bad, very bad. Adam is losing it. And so they run out to the hot tub and ends like we've lost at he's. He's gone. Totally roque. It's ridiculous. He's freaking out. He's freaking out that his name is freaking out that San Mike going the block losing his mind talking about marrying this girl, and she doesn't even know his last name and like, mama. Pike, mama pike. You've got you. Gotta you. Gotta talk some sense into this. I'm trying I'm trying for you, mama pike. He's just like going crazy about Adam. And this is what I'm talking about where he says he's so unwilling to let Sam go he's he's he's not for the team. It's not okay. He's really railing so hard on Adam. And what he is telling Dane is. Sings very clearly you you should not do this with you should not do this with us. This is how we respond if you do this with us to even one point I told him, you don't think Dane has feelings for ST. Of course, Dan has feelings for ST. But Jane, Dane would drop Esti in a heartbeat because Danes for the team Dane is a lion. And he's saying today, it's very clear message today is like yeah. Totally right. Totally right Adams the worst. I would never do that. And they they long it's a long bashing session for Adam here. This is exactly the cookie thing. You said earlier, you know, by by bashing on Adam he's making it clear today that hey, you on the same thing a little bit you better back off. 'cause this is exactly how we're going to retaliate, and it will, and it's so effective that because because you know, I think Anthony realizes to that like if Sam isn't the wanted to go SD. Is is the next one he wants to leave so ST might need to go. And so he's putting Dane in this position. And this is so effective that Dana is not only willing to let let us go this week. If that's what needs to happen. He's also willing to go on the block this week. He's like, no, no, I'm for the team. I I'm not afraid to touch the block. I'm a manly, dude. I'm for the team. I'm with you. Anthony, I'll go on the block. It's fine. It's like he's really genuine about it as we'll talk about later. Pretty incredible. How he got? He Anthony was able to wind Dana up like this. And just let him go and spin around thinking about this idea and actually having very very strong feelings to doing this again, it goes back to what you said, which I kind of in love with this analogy. Now of also it's dumb. It's dumb not to want to take one for the team. It's dumb. Not just let this happen day. Not only take taking one for the team with ST going but take for the team and sit on the block next. You know, it's incredible. It's pretty impressive. And I don't know one likes these Derek comparisons. And that is surely not what we're saying here. All we're saying is it's pretty impressive watching Anthony do this successfully would date, especially when data's one of the guys that has a lot of the information house island. Yes, their personalities are very different their level of knowledge of the game is very different. But it's the style of gameplay the style of how they position themselves and operate in the game, even their style of manipulation is different. But it's really just the way that they operated so similar in terms of like positioning themselves in the house and their role in the house as like nobody would ever think to put up Anthony. It was the same way with their. There's a reason why Derek never nominated, and he has essentially what I see what I see to be his Cody and Dane where Dana is willing to go on the block Dane is willing to be the peace that he moves around to make things happen. And Derek was a lot more subtle. Derek was a lot more. You know? You know, a lot better at moving the whole board and putting the place of the pieces in place without getting caught as much as Anthony has. And he's a lot less hotheaded and all of these things, but. But I think that style of game plays very similar even though there are a lot of differences. Derek would usually try and make people think that it was their idea which Anthony does as well. But in a very different way. So I think the comparisons very apt. But, but obviously there are a lot of differences. Just having watched Derek on the feeds for so long and watching him and Cody operate, it's just fell so similar. I was I'd like intense deja-vu watching Dane and Anthony operate last night. So yeah. I understand the comparisons are usually controversial. But yeah, but it's real it. Really struck me with this. Yeah. Well, let's say good. We've talked about how Derek new the game the not. So if you guys wanna comparison, I'll go with an athlete, right then athlete in their prime. They've played in the league that they're in for eleven years that's kind of Derrick, but then that athlete in their rookie year. That's Anthony same guy. But like just starting to figure stuff out just getting a feel for the game. There's a lot of promise, but it's not all well put together yet. I think that's perfect. I think that's totally perfect because I could absolutely see if Anthony is spent time training as an undercover detective for the next fifteen years and then came back and played the game. Again, I feel like h- you'd probably be various and and studied up on brother, then I feel like the comparisons would be very similar. So so we got Anthony. And Dane Anthony Dane starts talking about like, so we got this mess with the backdoor plan. What happened was SE told me today and nothing to do with me. It was SAM's plan all this stuff. And Anthony was like go go tell Corey that right now. She needs to hear that she needs to get this, all straight and danza. Okay. Come right back to me. Really direct again directly action. So Dane is going to. Go talk. Go try to talk to Corey. But he is interrupted because Corey is still talking with Esti because ST after she talked to Dane had gone up to Corey. And so s is talking to Corey, and they have a long conversation about everything that happened. S D basically explains her entire week last week from her perspective, she was trying to save her friend. But now her friend has gone, and she doesn't know where to go from here. And so. She talks about how Sam came up with the back door plan. And then once Sam found out that the back door plan was exposed she backtracked. She said, oh can't do it. Now, let's just blame it on. Kierra and Esty was like blaming on Kira? I thought that was so shady because Kira has SAM's back, and that would be like me trying to blame everything on KiKi. Like, I would never do that. That's just that's just so shady to me. And this is s d doing pretty decent job of. Being being the person that we kind of want to be where like now that KiKi is gone. She is this is this is what we saw from her last week when she was trying to protect KiKi with salmon, she was doing pretty, well, I think that she is really with the direction of Dane hitting all of the right points and the coordination with Dane and his people and Anthony is really really well done here because. Anthony goes in he plants the seeds with Corey he goes talks today, Dane has been getting his story straight with SD. He gives Dane marching orders. SDS hitting all the right points with with Corey and Corey is already starting to feel like I just feel so bad about what happened with rain. I hope that KiKi leaves gets out of the house and sees the truth that that she shouldn't blame. And and so then SD is going to leave and Dane has talked to Damien now, and he's getting stories to Damien because Damion is one of his people, and he's like Damian we need to get her story straight. And when I need to catch you up on this. This is what happened Corey had a Sam had a backdoor Corey plan. I was told about it today so on and so forth. So when you talk to Corey, you know, this is what you need to say in Damian's like that's cool. He then talks with SDS's. So this is what I said to Corey and she repeats like word for word all of what she said. So this is what you need to say. Because this is what I said intense. Okay. He gets called away to Corey he goes to talk to Corey. And look I want to apologize because things were not looking good for you, Dane. Because like, yeah. Yeah. I totally get that. I totally get that. This is what happened is that Sam came up with the backdoor plan and the issues that it was you. And I thought that I thought the cure had already told you I? Because I saw here. Go talk to you. I thought here was saying, hey, salmon, Adam or are talking about you. I didn't even realize that I need to tell you. That's my that's my bad. I apologize to Anthony. Because Anthony was like you should have told me about this early. Because then we could come up with better plan. He's I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean I didn't mean to go behind your back. I thought the curiosity told you, but I understand how it looked and it was bad. And of course, like, no that makes sense because everything that I was seeing make sense if it's just that you weren't telling me about this thing. Not that you were coming up with it yourself. Yes. Absolutely. I did not come up with this myself. It was all Sam. And she's like, I get that. And so now, I I'm sorry for for saying what I said too key things look, really bad. So I was talking to her about like, hey, you're telling me all of this information. I don't think it's true. And you know, there are two ways you get information that you believe right? You experience it yourself or you're told by trusted source. She definitely didn't experience this yourself. So I was like who's the trusted source? I figured it might be Dane, so I I told her that. And I told her that maybe maybe she shouldn't be trusting this person. And that they might be the reason that depend on the block. And then she she went after you in the speech, and I just want to apologize. That's great. Thank you so much for saying that I really hope we can move forward. I trust the big man you trust the big, man. We love him. He's been my boy. And so now, you know now, I trust you. I would never go against him. So I would never go against you. And I hope that we can move forward together. If I need to go on the block this week, I down I'll go to war. You know, I'll win the veto. I won't go home. I don't think he'll go home courses. I wouldn't want you to go. And he says, that's awesome. And I will of course, not come after you when I say, and so that's that's really kind of like how this how they leave that conversation. Yeah. And it's key note that on Dane feels amazing about obviously starts the night. Feeling nervous. All heck really worried on clearly he's still would like if he's very willing to sit on the block. And for whatever reason he's convinced that it's the right on the Suming because he doesn't want to get back doored. I'm assuming it's because he wants to veto righty thinks if he is at least he knows you save it cetera with the numbers by where he's looking at. But on a C it all worked pretty magnificently all of them to feel really well, and everyone kind of hit all the points. They needed to hit. And it starts to look like maybe things are clearing up here. Yes. So Dane is going to go back down and check in with Anthony. He's gonna say Anthony, this is what I said this. She said Dane, very good at remembering all of the details of the conversations. And really again, like I could barely keep up with them talking about getting the story straight and all of the details that they were talking about because there was so much so fast and Dane was on top of it like that. And so he goes to Anthony's. This is exactly what happened. This is what I said this. She said and perfect perfect. Yes. This is how do it. Let's go. And so, you know, they're super pumped about that. He's like all right. We're gonna talk Corey wanted to talk with the three of us tomorrow. And so we're going to figure out a plan. I told her I was willing to go up on the block. And it was like, well, you know, maybe you can go up maybe we can make something happen. And so then Dane goes and checks in with SD. They get the tells her what happened and all that stuff. She's like open the block. I don't know about that. I don't know what what if what if the vetoes used. It's like, no, it's fine. And so. It's all it's all coordinated all good Dane is not SAM's target as long as Dan is not target. Then they should be fine. Because Anthony should be able to retain the services of Corey and Corey is a tiebreaker. If if worse comes to worse, they still have Damian who probably wouldn't vote against Dane, if if you could help it. Although again, if it's dangerous ST never know. But for the most part here things are looking good. Anthony seems to have pretty good control over this again, very good coordination with Dane the way that he managed to flip this whole situation. He was such corey's target that Corey tried to flip KiKi against him earlier today. So that KiKi would go against him in her speech and all of that stuff. And then with just in just a matter of a couple of hours, Dane managed to flip the whole thing around with Anthony's health and now it's back on Sam. It's back on these other people and. Sam. In the meantime, is like, hey, yes, I celebrated with with Corey things are looking great. Like, they really they really dropped the ball Dane went into overtime and Sam and Adam and and cure. We're just kind of like, yes, we got this. And that's how it goes. Sometimes the big brother house. Yeah. If you just take your the prize one second someone else will come in and go for the swoop, and they really did turn a big deficit last night. It could have been detrimental for Dane, obviously, not everything said and done nominations haven't happened yet. But for a quick turnaround on one nights worth the work. That's really the things they needed to hit. They hit. You know, the remorse that Corey felt after the way KiKi exposes Dane on live TV is one. But then also the way Anthony ending and the like they coordinated every point to make sure there were no slows make sure didn't look like, I didn't know, you didn't know. Something you said wrong. I said wrong perfect. Then meanwhile, you've got Sam they're being a little shaky. Let's not forget the first conversation with him Walson. They're thinking those pretty good those pretty good. But then obviously everything overwritten because Sam still had moments. Like, oh, I didn't talk to Keith yesterday. Oh, I mean that whereas east three didn't let anything be meshed anything be blurry. Everything was crystal clear, so kudos honestly, kudos. I did I did forget I had in my notes here that I somehow skipped over Anthony did talk Damian somebody that's going to chat about Damian. They were they were happy. They were celebrating Anthony Damien because they're both really close of Corey. And you know, our boy Damien still say say physically. So I loved aiming to because he was talking with Dane, he's talking with Anthony Damian is of all of the like side alliances Damian is like the one person who has like multiple pretty boys. Right. He's got Anthony. He's got Dane, he's even that Adam to some extent. He definitely has Mark like everybody else is just they've got one. They've got one pretty boy. But Damian he's got he's got all four to some extent, Adam to a lesser extent. And in this conversation with Anthony's like I've heard Adam is hearing that I'm coming for him. I wanna know who's who's telling him that. It's anthony. But Anthony is still also at the same time trying to protect him into some some extent cure is probably in the second best position in terms of sidelines. Cure has two of the guys to a little to a little accent as well with Adam and an Anthony so and they're also working on Mark too. So cure are really coming for that Damien spot. So Adam Damian talk Adams, Anthony, and Damian talk Anthony says that they have to figure out how to keep safe next week. But they're happy to be safe this week, and they want to prevent her from being manipulated by those bad news bears people. Yeah. You don't want. You. Don't want bad news bears coming for your people at all not going to happen. There is a comparison that I would like to potentially get your take on as I was thinking about this yesterday. Damien doesn't have really the calm prowls. We haven't seen that also doesn't have like an alliance thing going on. But it's social game. And the way people feel about him kind of reminds me of Casey from last year. Do you think there's anything there or do you think I'm reading just because of recency it into it? I think there's something there in the social game part of it on. Might be controversial. I'm willing to say that I think Damian might be better strategically. I think that he's a little more proactive than Casey was although that's a little results-oriented Casey didn't need to be proactive because it was doing everything for her. We don't know how she would have handled situation like Damian where she was all alone. Maybe would have been more proactive in that spot. But I have seen Damian be more proactive about lying and making sure that you know, he's in a good spot. Then then Casey did. But again that that could just be situation. So I think it's a pretty good comparison. I think that they're both very good just being salted and making people feel good about them. I think Damian again, even potentially more. So than Casey is soap so chill. Damian has never blown up on anyone. I can't even picture Damian. You know, going after Scotty like like Casey did. So I think it's a good comparison. All right. Well, we'll see how it tracks moving forward. Yes. I will say though, I don't as much as I like Damian as much as I like that he is like one of the cooler in one of the cooler spots of the house in terms of like playing all the pretty boys. I don't like his position here. Corey winning was definitely good for him in some in some extent to some extent. But I think that as each week passes by Damian's stock in the game. So to speak. Is going to continue to fall unless something major changes. And with even though Corey winning keeps him safe this week. It seeming like nothing is going to change in the structure of the house. And again as each is each week passes, it becomes harder and harder to break free of that and Damien really needs to break free of that. And he's starting to run out of runway and his his time is gonna come soon if something doesn't change here. Yeah. And I mean, we're talking about a bunch of these people everyone has some kind of a solid alliance or solid pairing. Whereas if Damian is loosely connected to a lot of people, but when push comes to show we open because right now, obviously, you know, there's a like Anthony. Okay. S expendable and Savvas expendable. Once they go who's expendable Damian's. They will start coming up eventually. So he's gotta try probably at this point to either solidify something or just your way out to strengthen the connections. He does have the. Where he's safe regardless and people are willing to take a chance on him than to just let them go and figure it out that we have. Yes. Mark in the chat wanted to know about Mark Twain. ST are on the block on a victim night. Will Mark take his shot at Dane and vote him out. That's actually a very good question. Because if you think about it Dane SD being on the block together, it's a could still be a close vote. I think Sam would want probably want Dane out over ST, although can't be entirely sure. You should think that cure would want Dan out of ST. But again, definitely can't be entirely. Sure cure at one point last night was like I just need Esti to leave. So you can't be entirely sure. But those are two potential votes, you get Damian who I think might choose ST over over Dane in that spot, especially if Mark goes to him with your land saying, hey, this is our time. We we take Sam we take here. We we vote ourselves. We get a huge threat out of the game. We we we really nasty like this is our move. It's possible. I don't think it would be the best move for Mark at the moment. I think that he's still in a pretty great spot moving forward with all of the pretty boys together. I think that all of the pretty boys are like Adam Anthony Dane or coming after Adam I and Adams coming after Anthony, Dane, I and market can sit back and watch. And I also think that he will if he gets if he does manage. To get to the final two has a pretty good sort of like, hey, I'm just a guy these people, they're they're so full of themselves. I know I'm kind of sending, but I haven't charm to me I got through this game in a different way than they did. They were manipulating people. They were bullies. I think he has that sort of underdog ish. You know, things to him. So I don't think the making the move right now is the best move from Mark. What could happen? We know. He doesn't talk cameras anymore. No. And when he did talk to the cameras he did fans himself to be a bit of a showman. He wanted to be the evil one. And now that him and his pretty boy crew have made it the jury he could potentially see it as well. I think you'll vote for me the end. I mean, he's a pretty bomber pretty boy. So that could happen if he wants to embrace embrace this chaotic side that he's had to hide out. Now for the last week. We could see him consider doing it. But ultimately, we just got to see how the rest of this week goes. And if he does you'll like that's what he wants to do you can bet exactly said he's gonna go approach Damian. Like if he's taken the shot. He's not going to try and miss. He's not going to do it hoping for the best. You'll have to put in the work to do it. And he will do that. If you want to do it. Yes. So something funny that happened last night the their they don't have to sleep in the red room. It's too hot in there. So everyone's in the blue room now and. ST is very much missing KiKi because she is not had to be in the house without geeky like. Talk late tonight. Right. Like. Talk right. Sometimes just like, well, I think we should should talk guys where did life come from. Philosophical chats is there life on other planets. Started talking about explain the theory of evolution by Irwin. Stay in school. She then goes onto splaine like Darwin's theory of evolution and how he came up with it. She has those details down, but apparently care where his name. Oh, yes, precious. Yeah. Steve Steve Irwin. Yeah. She then started talking about Freud. And that's when I went to bed. So. So that was happening apparently, some some, you know, echoes of what's happening this morning, obviously not able to super keep up on it. Because it's happening as we were speaking. But Corey has talked Damian told Damien, you're good. She also said that she is sticking to her words. She will not be putting Adam or Sam up on the block, at least initially. I think that she is now also talked to Anthony about possible nominations. She did bring up Mark. And Dane at one point and Anthony said. The right one. Mark and ST. And I think I think it might have landed back on Dane SD. I think that's where it is right now. But I can't be entirely sure. Again, tune in tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern how much better idea at that point Dana nasty with the possibility here of the veto is used door. Sam seems to be the the option here. So again, that's it's it's vague. I'm not one hundred percent on that. But it seems to be what I'm getting from these conversations that are happening as we're as we're doing this update. Yeah. I think looking back for those three names market being the new pon at this point, maybe. And then if the nonce really do end up being Dane and St. this veto draw will be really interesting because I think the veto will have a big say what happens if those two are the ones going up because I do think a back door plan is at least imminent, or if it isn't best believe people are going to try and push for it. Yes. I'm being told. Yes, that is correct. She has Gregory said she has already told Dane that he SD are going up. So that seems to be the plan here. So there you go. Could be interesting for sure, you know, I think that there are people who would not use the Lido Adam in particular who has never lost veto competition that he's played in. So Adam gets drawn that could be interesting. Adam doesn't use the veto. Then they, of course, are in this position where it's SDN Dan on the block, and again, it's like. Even with Corey on board. It's kind of a hard sell especially for Adam to Sam, and there's has been so much tension between Adam and Dane and Sam adamant salmon Dane that there could be some drama in that vote. You also got Mark as a bit of a wild card if he's left as a vote there. So there could be some drama that happens if the veto does not get used. I think Kira. Sam would not use it. Adam would not use it. Probably everyone else would I think? So except again, if unless Mark wants to take a shot, but I think Mark probably just go ahead and do whatever so things not looking good for Sam. But things are also not looking good for St. if if things play out a certain way, and then again to the pretty boys could be tricky spot Dane, theoretically could be in danger, but we'll have to wait and see. Yep. Contrary to other weeks of if Adam does win the veto this time, I just want my is completely focused on his interactions with Dana. Dana approaches them and tries to convince him to use it because hey, where together in this where the pretty boys like hate me off because especially after Dana and Adam having their conversations Dane keeps trying to say like, you know, I'm all about us all about us. I'm just intrigued to see if that conversation does happen or if at that point Danes just. Convinced the keep it cool and take back seat and just hope everything blows over. Yes. All right. So that's what we've got for you anything else that you wanted to bring up. Nobody think we covered everything and tomorrow's life. It's going to be very fun to listen to be there to make sure your tomorrow at eleven AM eastern when up to everything that happens today on the big of the candidate seven life feeds and then Sunday night. We'll be live to recap the episode of big brother seven, hopefully, we'll have Bruno with us from candidate three and five and then Monday night, we will update these stock watch on the round table and talk about everything that happened over the course of the week, and and everything with state of the house all of it will be great so tune in for all of that. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, you can find at yet ISM. And I want to thank you for joining us cenex time.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 6 | Saturday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 6 | Saturday Morning Update Podcast

"Doc. Rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. That he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello everyone hand. Good morning. Welcome to our live feed update. For April six I'm EuroStar in Armstrong. And with me today is Mary. How're you doing Mary? Great. Good morning. It's it's not my birthday week. But I'm still having a good time. So it's okay birthday week per month. A year really exactly exactly I like to take the the leader approach on that one. So. So. We are here to tell you everything that happened yesterday on the big candidates seven alive feeds it was day thirty five in the house, and we got the nominations nominations happened. We had more plans for the nominations for after the nominations and everything in between. So we started the day with Corey and Damian Corey was leading Damien. No that he's good. He safe Damion is his okay. Nobody's going to hurt him now. No, I love I love this plotline of Damian just being like, this sad puppy that everyone needs to reassure out all times. Well, nobody's going to hurt him this week. But Anthony is gonna start planting seeds to her. Anthony. I know I know, you know, the thing is it's kind of it's kind of about time because Damian he's great. He's a really nice guy. Probably really one of the most genuine people in this house. But he's he's made a surprisingly considering how little he's done. I mean, I was saying sometimes I feel like create these things in the universe. Use literally just yesterday. It was like I like Damian I like his spot right now. But I feel like he's running out of runway. And I feel like Anthony is cutting off his day. Day. Yeah. People are people are sneaking up on him. And it's sad. But you know, this is what happens when you don't really try to make fun of. Well, she does tell Damien she's not nominating. Sam or Adam at least right away. So that's what we talked about yesterday morning. He was happening very early. She then he's going to talk to Anthony, and they discussed the nominations, and they're going back and forth about different possibilities. Should. I nominate Dane Mark Dane, ST SDN, Mark quarter. The possibility they ultimately land on ST. And Dane, it's it's easy to explain because, you know, the stories about the back door Sam says it was Dane, Dane, nasty say it was Sam. And so she can kind of just be like, hey, KiKi said these things about you guys and all of this stuff, blah. So I'm gonna put you guys on the block. And then the back door plan is to get rid of Sam so veto is used samll, go home. Yeah. And. I mean, if you thought things are going to be different on day, two of when Corrie has become h no, it's still the whole. There's only one thing to be concerned about and that's who is trying to back door me last week who came up with this plan. It's really the only thing that matters. And Anthony, I think is really grind in that one into the ground to make sure that that's that's where corey's heads at gotta keep Corey on track to make sure the anthonys vision comes true. And I think that a lot of this has to do with the fact that that Corey came into the house late. I really do because I mean, if you're trying to get into Corey said, why does she think the way that she does why does she feel the way she does? And she's hugely influenced by Anthony, obviously. But I think one of the reasons why Anthony is so easily able to influence her is because she came in late, and she was like struggling to find people because they had already made bonds that already made alliances. And then Anthony was one of the few people to like really give her the time of day and not talk behind her back like like mama was doing or Eddie. And and so when Anthony does that not only as Anthony one of the few people to give her the time of day. But Anthony is a powerful figure in the game. He has a lot of influence. He has a lot of allies. Anthony keeps her safe. There were a lot of conversations over the course of yesterday and the night before where people came to her saying, I would never go against you. Because I would never go against Anthony because we had a bond from day one. Those are bonds that can't be formed with Cory because she wasn't in the house day one. So she feels like she managed to get in with somebody who has bonds that can help keep her safe that Anthony's bonds are helping her and therefore her bonds, and she's she feels like her game in the house is so tied to Anthony that it's being helped by Anthony so much because of his connections that like, obviously, she is going to go deeper and deeper into that Anthony influence, and and I feel like that's. Where we end up here with Corey where you know, now, she is just like holy almost under his control. And there's there could be an argument being made of like, why did Damian or someone else not try and pick up Corey in the same way that Anthony did and part of it. Like, you're saying is it's safer to be with Anthony because other people like Anthony and have that respect in that connection? But it's it would take a really good player of Corey to ride with Anthony for awhile. And then jump off the Anthony train win. They realized they can't beat Anthony in the end Anthony's connections are not not going to to get her the win. So I feel like you want to see these the underdogs all team up you want to see them get together. And I don't I don't know why just season after season you have people who are willing to go way way way too far with people. They probably can't beat. Yeah. It's like Damian did try to to get Corey. Right. Like, he he has been talking to Corey lot. They've bonded a lot the differences. The Damien doesn't have power in the game. And so, you know, Corey likes Damian they talked about having reason Corey should want to be with Amy and doesn't have power. And you like, I guess maybe maybe it's too early but the lights at the end of the tunnel there. I mean, if you're looking at trajectory in the game, right? And you're looking at should I be a duo with Damian who has nobody else, and no influence and hasn't won any competitions. And lots of people talk about him as somebody that could leave or do I want to be with a duo with Anthony who has never been a target has tons of influence in the game. And look as looking like he's going to the final two and can protect me and and little this. You know, has protected him or TASR protected her on on a couple of occasions. Now, of course, she doesn't realize the. Of his power and how much that he would probably cut her and the end. But, but I think it's obvious to see why you would be like, hey, it's safe over here. I'm just going to just going to walk over here. And something that I think I've like I'm thinking about apart from Tim who came in late who was his own kind of person. I think every person we've seen come in late has followed the same a very similar formula where Allison came in. And she got very involved with Andrew belief is name was from the first five and like the first five they were in power. She was drawn to that. Andrew could protect her. I really hope I'm not getting that name wrong. And I really the, you know, the guy the guy, and then, you know. Even even like just kind of you just kinda gravitate toward that. And then you had. Veronica kind of gravitating toward will and Kayla to some extent you had Maron gravitate toward daily. When people come in late. They it's hard for them to create their own thing. They have to gravitate toward where the power goes. Or whether power is if they want to stay safe. And I think that's what we're seeing with Corey yet again. And so really this is just me saying, I think I think we should stop doing these people coming in. I agree. I the only way to break the mold is really it's fine to stay with them for a little while. But after three weeks or so when you've met other people, and you have made some of your own bonds. That's when you need to start. You be the power player you make your own crew separate a little bit. And I mean, it's it's fan fiction. It's fine. We can move on. Asked about Nikki, Nikki gravitated toward Tim of back. And also eventually when toward Mitch who was the other powerful player the house, so. So. And obviously another part of this too is Corey has only seen one season and we'll get as well. So that's the plan. They're going to back door Sam. So Dane is going to talk to Adam they're gonna make up a little bit. Oh, sorry for what we did. Basically Dane is taking the role of you know. You're good. I'll take this one Algo on the block. That's fine. You win. You get what you want. Can we be friends again now and Adams like? Cool. Well, it has finally hit Dame that, hey, if I'm going up on the block, anyway, I should probably not his off the people who I need votes from to begin with. So they they make up Corey is going to talk to Sam and question her more about this back door plan. She still feels like she can see a lot of inconsistencies, and it is important to point out that the truth of this matter is that Dane came up with this idea on his own that he wanted Corey backdoor he put a plan into place to try and convince Sam of this. It was his own plan. Corey's the alpha female, let's get these groups together, let's get Corey backdoor. Adam also came up with a plan separately on his own that he would like Corey to be back doored once he had gotten ahead once he had had that conversation the pantry with with KiKi ST about like the people on the sidelines after the blood Mito. And so he spent time talking to Sam convincing her so adamant actually convinced them to make this move. Then dane. I was in a conversation where Sam was like. Well, I've been thinking maybe Corey and Dan was like, yeah. Corey and Dane thought that his work had made it happen. And and so. During a certain point of time during in last week that was the plan that Sam was going to nominate Corey as the back door. And so really all three of them are culpable all three of them very much involved. Sam honestly, probably the least involved since she was mostly convinced but still was on board at one point with this plan. But Sam story is that it was all Dane, she's trying to cover for Adam and herself that we didn't come up with. It was Dane that was pushing this idea. That's why it was talked about. So Sam is lying to Corey in these conversations. Now, Dane is also lying because he's saying that he had nothing to do with it. He saying it was all Sam he's also covering for Adam. But he's pushing it all on Sam and the difference between the two here between Dane and Sam is that Dane did a ton of work. The night before that we talked about on yesterday's update coordinating his story with with everyone that he needed to to coordinate with with with SD with Damian with Anthony. And Sam is just deny just to not. She is not coordinated anything. They've coordinated the fact that they're going to deny it. But nothing else. No details. And so when Sam is questioned by Corry, she does not do a good job at denying and of creating a cohesive narrative that works in corey's mind. So this this is not going to do. This is not going to be a good conversation for Sam knowing. Salmon, Adam have made a few mistakes all throughout the day of not getting their story completely straight and sort of backpedaling and then trying to come back and they're both frustrated with the situation. And I mean, I don't know the whole thing is ridiculous. Because Corey it's like, yeah. There were like a few options. Of course, everybody talks about everybody going up at some point. But it was mostly Dane in my for my view day was what pushing hard enough. He's just smart enough person in there like you said to covers tracks a little better. Really was. And so, yeah, it's and it's also yet it's different stories where like Sam is like, no, no never it was all day. And then Adam is in there like how I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it was Dane, I mean, yeah, we talked about it a little bit. We talked about everyone. Like, they they did not coordinate in the same way that Dane did with his allies. And so this is really sketching Corey out. And it really seems to confirm everything that Anthony is telling her which only goes further to confirm that Anthony is, trustworthy, and the anthonys advice should be taken. So so Corey and Sam also like bringing up all sorts of like, I don't know why curious said, it was Dane and Adam because that does really complicate things why would say, it's Dane and Adam when Sam is saying, no, it was just Dane cure saying animals, so Sam tries to explain it. Like, oh, well cure thought there was a guys alliance at the time. And so I think that they were trying to implicate the guys and get the women on on board of the same page, and it was just it's all very muddled and confusing and salmon's withholding too much. And so it just comes off very poor. And so Corey is is very sketched out. But she does let Sam know that Dane is going to be probably one of the nominations, and that makes them happy as she struggling here. But she's like, okay. Well, okay. That's good. That's good. I think failing right now. But if somehow still succeeding, I guess Dane on the block. Okay, there you go. Yeah. I mean, you gotta you gotta think a little bit ahead of of that. It's not always not always the people who get put up right away who go home, especially with the people getting put up at the ones known to win a lot of challenges. And so Sam should be that happy. Yes. And after Sam leaves Corey is going to say to the cameras this week's going to be insane to figure out how to expose Sam. She's feeding me a bunch of BS right now, which is like true. But. At the same time. So as the other side, everyone's lying to you. Figured out that SAM's terror, but she hasn't figured out the Dana Zayn terror. So it's like, you're so close. But it doesn't matter because the girls are only allowed to fight against the girls. Miss house. That's how it works. That's how that's how it works. Now. We're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. Corey ends up. Seeing Dimitri Andy's and learned a lot. And then keeps repeating the exact same advice. He gives her. Yes. Or no. So something that. Corey talks to Dmitri, and she's asking him about his alliance with and she wanted she wanted to know did you ever doubt? Ikea. Yeah. And he says not first second. Which I was like. Okay. I watched those feeds sure though, I get it. Corey didn't watch. Right. So Corey took this to me like confirmation. Anthony, I are solid. I doubt him. I should not. I should not doubt. Anthony for a second. Dimitri nike. It's gonna work. Exactly the same way for as. Yes. Very important to note as Mary his today here Corey did not watch season. So again, you know, kind of important to have people that know the show. Fine, though. I mean, I think Corey, you know, maybe maybe I should have just gotten gotten last week's Wendy's. And just had a nice little time with rosy rosy who pie the way, I forgot to mention this. If you watch the Rosie clip from Wendy's the extent one where where Sam is is asking her like a bunch of questions wrote Rosie is like a hostage trying to give keywords. She's like, man. I just love girl alliances. And Sam is like, oh, yeah. Well, so I don't know. What what what do you think? What would you have done differently in the house voted out? I what would you have done differently? If you to stay and she was like, well, I probably would have formed a girl alliance. I probably would have done that. Because I love girl alliances. They are really great and should be done, which is actually funny because I'm pretty sure Rosie got voted out because she was too close to the girls and was only rooting for the girl's tissue. I'm telling you this one hundred percents. She was. Trying to be like guards or together. No. That's okay. But I I'm sure that if if Korean heard that same conversation, she would have some help in like what you're saying is sick with your alliance and get out the girl. Okay. Perfect on the same page. So anyway, in this conversation where she's telling Anthony about this in how she should never doubt him. Damien walks in and Damien kinda just like sits down and the conversation. Anthony, very clearly doesn't wanna talk and find Damian. It's very awkward, and I noticed this, and it is gonna come into play a little bit later as an example at Anthony's gonna use. So I'm gonna pointed out here Corey. Is then gonna talk to ST an ST is going to this is kind of a feeler conversation. She's not gonna tell yet that she's going on the block. But but SD is going to ask Corey question about Anthony shes. I sometimes I worry about telling Anthony things because I'm worried that he's going to tell Adam everything that I tell him, of course, what? No, definitely not definitely not like. Oh, okay. And then she goes in stain the same question. Does Anthony tell Adam things things like no, definitely not Anthony wouldn't do that. Anthony, Anthony, just just chilling by himself. And and he's definitely not the most connected person house. Yes, Dane, let's let's ST know that he might go on the block. She might go on the block if it happens they need to just be calm. Hopefully, another plan in place, and they just need to not freak out and stay the course. And so I said, okay. Okay. Then S T talks to Anthony. And Anthony is going to kind of have a talk about like, hey should adjusted me last week. If if you if something bad happens this week, let me just say you should have trusted me last week. You should should've come to me about the Corey backdoor. You should have come to me about the doubts that you were having you were talking about me. That's not great. She says I'm sorry. I did have some doubts. I did say some things about you in Corey. But I was mostly just trying to save KiKi. I apologize. So he's he's basically setting he said in Corey up for the year nominated so. Yeah. Which people like yes, Anthony is running corey's h but at least he does probably the best job of having her back in a more subtle way than the other pairs. I feel like Anthony does a better job of keeping Corey safe than Adam does with Sam or dangerous with ST people. Besides this one time last week when people had mentioned Corey, and which was less against Cory and was more trying to protect their own people. And that she was one of the only people up there. And I don't think Dane like wanted Corey out for any major reason. So it was it was more just like try to keep people safe. I feel like I really Anthony's definitely has a corey's back more. Yes. I think so too. I think that Anthony wants to protect Corey to very large extent. I think he also like genuinely likes and respects Corey a lot like haven't you heard there? The new Dmitri. Yeah. Like Anthony is somebody that loves to trash talk and loves to use extreme language, but he never trash talks Corey. He's always very nice about Corey even to the other guys where maybe he should be trashed on a little bit in order to hide their bond. But it doesn't do it at least at least for now. So I do think that Anthony really likes Corey lot and wants to get her as far as he can. So. Dane is going to talk to Corey and cory's going to let day now you're on the book, it's gonna be you an ST, but the plan is to door Sam, we're not gonna tell anyone I'm gonna tell us de we're not gonna tell Damian. So that's the plan. Dane is like while. I just wanna thank you for allowing me to be part of this wonderful opportunity to get rid of Sam. I'm so glad this reminded me of Dustin big for eight like wanting to be the what was it? The the person that gets to flush the toilet next to dick or whatever. Like Dane is just so happy that he gets to be a part of getting rid of salmon in any small way. Yeah. Yeah. Which is it's cute. I mean, maybe it will go the same way did with Esten who knows? Probably not. Winner of season. This means Sam the season. I don't know is Sam evil dickers- Sam Danielle in this scenario. I don't I don't know. So so Dane he legitimately. Thanks gory. For going on the buck, Anthony and Corey are going to have a conversation after that, he lets her know about his conversation with SD, and in this conversation with as I think even more I didn't catch it entirely, but she talked about Damian a little bit and give gave him. He's already been talking about this a bit. But I think he was giving even more of a hint and conversation with SD how much he trusts Damian. And he's worried about their relationship. He says Damian is really close with us. Do we need to be careful of him? We careful what we say to him because he's so close with steam probably tells her everything so just make sure we don't tell anyone the back door plan. And of course, of course, I'm already I'm already on top of that not telling anyone the backdoor plan. Yeah. Yeah. So Sam is going to talk to Kira about her conversation with Corey. And she's I'm worried. I feel like I was getting interrogated a little bit. And I feel like I did not pass the interrogation. Kind of concern because I'm lying. And and I don't think I'm doing a good job. And and it's all because of Adam I'm covering for him. That's the only reason I'm lying and cures. Like, I think you should just tell the truth. I think you should just. Say say the truth and that that will help and for Kira? If Kirit tells the truth nothing like no harm is gonna come to care really nothing on Kira? They already it's because Anthony likes curia Anthony, he does not like Sam. So even if Sam had great evidence told the truth Sam still somehow going home like Anthony is going to swing it in that way. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Same. She can say whatever might as well, tell the truth. She's gonna make Atta mad at least every more fun. Well, she approaches Adam with the idea, should I just go and say tell the truth and Adams's. No, no, we're we're good. And if you go in and say the truth now, it just makes you look like more of a liar because you now you're changing your story and Dane is changing historic. No. People that change their story. They look like liars. So you shouldn't do this. And he has a kind of a point. But at the same time, but he keeps going to Corey and. Yeah, no, nothing kind of talked about it. But not like, no, we didn't do that. But like, I mean, of course, we mentioned everybody's name. But I don't know. And then he goes to Sam Sam can't we just stick to the story. Why don't you just stick story tonight? It's like, you're the one also doing this his read on his reasoning is, right. But his end result is so wrong for sample. She should be doing everything she can't at this point. And he just doesn't realize that in north as nor does she. So Dane is gonna talk to ST. He says his feeling he's going up STI as feeling have. You been told says still feeling feeling? It's all Kiki's fault. She's a Seward my game. So really really blaming on KiKi, and he's gonna continue playing it on KiKi. And he's also to be noted like kind of lying to St. here. Yes. And not saying that confirmed he is going up. So yes. And then as to goes and talks to Cory Cory says as you go. Oh, okay. I mean, I don't agree with that. In who am I going up? Again, you're going up against him. Disdain. No. And he's going up. Yeah. I just told him. People tell the truth to because you've kinda get KAI or date like cover your back talk to Corey and say, okay, I'm not going to tell us. We'd be on the same page here. Corey also he's talking about I think she's getting this wrong with me. She keeps talking about after this week. It's okay. It'll be a clean sweep. Yes. She's a clean wait slate. Clean slate. Not going to be clean sweep. That's a different thing. That's okay. Clean sweep. Everyone's getting victim. Except for me. Them all out now. Okay. I know where that rakes in terms of I still think fustrated is worse. But no, it's weary wearies. My least favorite thing. Doesn't bother me as much sounds like you're saying it with an accent. But the audio book all right? Book. Listening to fool's assassin of the fits and the full trilogy, which is the final part of the realm of the elderly series. Yeah. Yeah. You asked me I got a little bored halfway through that spray. Everyone should read so asked no don't don't put me. Don't put me in the book. The I promise I promise I swear on. My father's grave. It was not me the came up with the back door thing. It was not it was Sam Sam came up with it. Right. I don't even remember what T really believes. I don't know if he's lying here. Trying to remember that Tim like what point did the conversation that just keeps coming back to my head is when they're all sitting the group of five members five person alliance that is definitely key on well that didn't work the five personal lines that was meeting in Leon's lounge last week around this time, and they're all sitting there. And then Dane all sudden, it's lightbulb goes off. Oh, shoot. Hey. Why don't we target Corey? So I'm pretty sure that was like the first time that ST really really got clued in. Yes, she got cover for Danes. Yeah. Did I think seemingly come from Sam in that conversation? But then right after that conversation Dane, took her aside in the have not Ramin said that was all me I convinced him to go after Corey. So I don't know if she forgets that conversation or if she is just like straight up lying here. But she swears swears I was gave it was Sam and so- Corey is going to pretend to still be up in the air that I am still not sure. And I just think it's right for me to be free to go on the block because she really just takes instruction and goes all the way with it. So she's really just playing up the act of like, yeah. It's just you guys on the block right now. And. Does not want to hint that she does believe them. And there is a backdoor plan in play. So really just keeping SD in the dark there s says he's still willing to work with Korean Anthony, if she stays this week, she has been prepped by deign to take this as well as possible. And so she does she does. So. Yeah. It's not quite as well as Kiki's first nomination. How well she took that when she was like jumping up down excited and thanking thinking Sam, but a close. So essays I'm going to go to Dane, and she's I'm sorry. I really didn't. I really didn't expect to go up on the block next to you. I thought it would be someone else data's like. Yeah. I was hoping it wouldn't be you any does say that that that that Corey told him. Yeah. She told me, but I wasn't. I was hoping it wasn't gonna be you. And he again just says to reach to reassure her. Like, hey, we need to win the veto. We're gonna be fine. I think we're gonna fine like when the Beata veto. But particularly I do and I need to take myself off like a new like the best for us is for me to be safe. Very important. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony is then gonna talk to Corey again, Corey says ST Swarner father's grave that it was Sam. And that seals it. One hundred percent. She's things sad. It's definitely Sam as d would not lie about that. So then they talk about like, okay? So now scenarios would have had him when's veto. Right. Vida. What what happens and he says? Well, I mean, we could them could say, hey, use the veto, and we'll put up somebody else, and then Sam on the block and cory's like too much lying though too much lying, and he's like, no, no. It'd be legendary. It's it's not lying. We'd we'd use the truth. We use the truth. We'd figure it out. We'll figure it out. Truth to make our li- work. Right. Yeah. I mean at first he suggests that we just tell tell Adam to put that we're going to put cure up, and then he realizes maybe we shouldn't do that. Right. I maybe we should try to hint that it's because you really want Dane out. So he'll wanna protect Danes who wanna take Dane down. So it kind of kind of playing all around. I just this is the flaw in the guy's going on and on and on for weeks and weeks and weeks telling Adam look when we get a chance for putting Sam gotta get rid of Sam, SAM's terrible. Get rid of Sam you can't now backtrack. No. Threat. Who cares? We we're we can't wait to meet your kids. It's like this. They got this picture in their mind that this is going to be like the world's biggest shock that. They're going to put Sam up which would be had you not been talking about this every day for the last thirty four days. Yes. And Anthony again has very good instincts here with Kierra recognizing that he should that. They should not say their name as a potential backdoor and also at one point in this conversation Kira sticks their head in to like, hey, guys. And like, hey, can we just have a minute and then pretty quickly? All right now, you need to get cure in here and a quarter. Like, it doesn't matter. They know we talk all the time. No, no. It's not we wanna make sure they feel included and say, you know, you're telling me the nominations, you're gonna tell them the nominations to and the those the only people you're telling. And so Corey does exactly that just very like those of the little things that really matter an Anthony is is on top of those. Well, but remember, it's it's also we're talking about Friday. So got a long time for Anthony to get cocky and makes mistakes by yes. We mentioned Stanford again, another another thing Dimitris told her says, you gotta go with your original instincts after that trying to convince yourself you're just gonna make yourself think whatever you convince is true. So just continuing I knew it was Sam at the beginning. See and Dimitri said they go with your regional instincts were Dmitri's. And I remember. It's like pick pick a different person to talk to. I wanna know. I wanna know. What would have happened have Corey gotten like? One of daylight in there or something I think I think we need Johnny. Yeah. Or or Mitch like somebody that is capable of like, very subtle manipulation. I mean, look we got Dan in the big brother, Canada one house and change the entire outcome of this season. That's all I'm saying. Actually advocating for people to go in and win. When you have someone like, Dan, or if you have someone maybe Johnny who is watching the season and comes in. I'm sure it's just their entire. It'd be like let me see if I can manipulate what's going to happen. I'm playing that's that's fun. So the feeds go down. We have the nomination ceremony. Dana nasty are nominated for eviction afterward. Anthony inquiry gonna talk again and Anthony is going to continue to plant those seeds about Damian. And it's just like, no. But at the same time like yes, Anthony, this is the right move. The cord is very close to Damian in the more that you can inject out in between that relationship and isolate heard from other people the more control you have over and look Aminov. No. Yeah. It's smart. It's it's another reason why I feel like Damian could have maybe put more work in with Anthony do something at some point. It's like if you're not if you're not the pretty boys in you're not Anthony's number one. Not that many people left in the house. So it's people got to go. And and he does he does a pretty good job. You're starting to say, you know, what I feel like adamant Sam repair. And you know, we're a pair. But maybe maybe SE is just faking her pair with Dane, maybe a real number one is Damian. That's what really happened like a secret area. I mean, he he really he really sells it. They're really thoroughly close secretly they tell each other everything they're very like, listen pay attention. You'll see it. And so we need to make sure we don't tell Damien too much. And you know, he he just comes in. He feels comfortable which plopping into our conversations, which is good. It's good that he feels that. But we need to be very careful. We can't trust him. And he wonders, you know, thinking about it Damion is close to ST, and they tell each other everything I wonder if he knew about the back door planet never told us because ST knew about it. So I'm sure Esti told him, but he never said anything so. But that would be the entire house. Does he does he want her to go after everyone can't have come up with the door plant? I don't think he wants her to go after Daming, I think he just wants her to not trust aiming. Because again, the the more related she is from other people the more influence he directly has and Daming is also somebody is probably being set up to be targeted soon. Certainly not by Corey. But by somebody by somebody else. So what makes what makes Anthony more likable to watch than someone like call? Like, he's he's got the same sort of manipulation and the same control over other people's you h h is, and he even has I feel like a fair keep feeling he's got the most ability to manipulate the other people within the pretty boys. I I don't know. I just wonder. He's just not as mean or just not as louder. I compared him a lot more to to Derrick. I feel like their style of games. Lot more similar Paul definitely took a lot of of cues from Derek. But I think was distinctly different. And I think one of the main things with Paul is that he was a former player who knew the game in that gave him so much credibility that wasn't really earned. Whereas Anthony barely knows the game and his coming here and gives gives himself credibility through his own bearing. I do think that Anthony is more likable in the house. He like winning fun. I guess what? I'm trying to say is from the outside that the audience looking at the two players pollen in Anthony, and they're not then great correlation. But it's just that they they both are disliked by the audience in the way that they're controlling and playing, but within the house everybody seems to love them, which I think is interesting. I think I think that Anthony. More like than much more than paula's. And I think a large part of that has to do with the fact that like when he's not being manipulative, he is very fun. And and like if like fun to watch on the feeds, and and also he's not like the one man wrecking ball. He's got a lot of other people who are on a similar level. He's just better than them. Whereas like with Paul he he didn't even talk strategy real strategy with anyone because it was just him by himself running everyone with Anthony. It's like, it's Anthony, it's Mark. It's Dane, and it's Adam and Anthony is just one step ahead. And but there's still a lot of like actual conversation. And there's like a balance of power where you know. Sure. Anthony's doing better than those other guys. But those other guys are still in with shot. So I think that makes a huge difference. Like you like people who are controlling, but there is some opposition as well. You don't wanna see clean a clean sweep clean sweet. So. We then get Adam inquiry. Adam is gonna talk to Corey about their four him. Sam Corey Anthony. Still time still in his head there. They talk about taking ST out over Dane, and Adam things that is as a possibility, but you know, corey's still kind of like we'll see we'll see trying to keep this keep this vague. And Adam the important part here is that Adam says he will be gunning for the veto. And if he wins it he will not use it and Corey does not find an angle to to push otherwise at the moment. So Adam really wants to win the veto. He really wants to not use the veto right now. They're kind of this is the flaw in pudding ST on the block. It's also the stalemate your at of Corey can't doesn't have a good reason why Adam should use it when Anna Mont STL, and Adam can't come up with a whole lot of our reasons why ST should be the target over Dane for someone like Corey. So. Yeah. I mean, putting if you if corey's ideal second option is for deigned to go home in an event where they both stay on the block. That's this is the problem with putting up. Yeah. Yeah. So we then get adamant Sam Sam is still concerned about Corey. She's really worried about this Adams, don't worry about it. I just had a really great conversation Corey we are fine. We are good. Look, we didn't touch the block. Again, you have to trust me got this. Adam is going to be so mad when Sam goes up. It's like he is going to blow up it's going to be big didn't put he like they've been priming him for this all season. He can't you can't like not see it coming. He really doesn't. He he he feel because he feels like he did he just made a thing. We've Cory and that like it's this is Corey it's not the guys he doesn't see how much Anthony is controlling Corey. And I don't know if he will. I don't know Anthony will blame this all on Corey see how much Anthony's control and Corey when Anthony is constantly saying I've got Cory. Oh, yeah. She does whatever I tell her like getting the structure of the alliance, Mary he doesn't control her. He's just really smart, and what he says make sense she listens. He uses truths. It's been said so many times of why this is not the brigade. But it's because no one none of these people realize like they can't both stick with the alliance and bring all of their pairs to the end. Doesn't matter. You notice that we somehow almost at the end of this. We've mentioned Mark leg zero times feeling really good about trading in for all my marks. Mark only Mark sold. Everything about only might have been the best choice. This. Sure, there is a zero point zero percent chance the market get up on the block in any way fashion. I think we're good. Proud of myself right now, there's another thing about Mark. I did want to bring up toward the end. But we can talk about an hour when we're when Ron Mark. Is that they were playing a game. And one of the games that they were playing was like, what do you think this person thinks? And so the one questions was who do you think Mark would want to spend two months locked in a cell with? And so they asked they asked everyone and one of the popular answers was KiKi, but three separate women all said themselves ST Sam and Corey all said that Mark would pick them to spend two months locked in a cell with for separate reasons because they felt like Mark liked them that much and would want to spend that much time with them. And I thought those very telling about Mark's game that like three different people, especially when they're such an obvious answer and KiKi on the table that people did eventually gravitate toward but the three separate win were like, hey, I think Mark would choose me. I think I think that just the that's this archetype it just works like that. They they think that Mark lakes them would want to spend time with them. Even though they find him annoying awkward gets that thing. It's that Syria type of when you find someone who you think that you're sort of nicer smaller smoother or cooler than or whatever you assume that they're than like really really like you so interesting, but I guess that's I like that. I don't think that this is any kind of intentional play on Mark's part. But it's worked for. So anyway, Corey is going to talk to Damien again, Damian is I mean. I mean, again, they means just like still on like, hey, we're working together. I know that these being worked against but he's talking to Corey he's he's trying to continue to plant seeds against Sam. That's kind of where he's still at in the game. And he's letting her know, hey, back when I was on the block against you know, Sam was trying to flip and made me promise to not go after her like, you know, like she was in control of the vote. Just keep that for later. Just have that information like he's trying to be like a mini Anthony trying to get her to go after Sam, I guess, but it's already happened the pairing that I would have rather had happened fine. He doesn't try to manipulate. He's just giving real information wants to work like partners. Yeah. Well. Adam is gonna talk to Dane in the middle of one of these games in the pantry. And Dane says I have to come off the block. I have to come off the block. I don't like I don't like where I stand right now. I was like why what do you mean? He's like I feel like I could go home. I feel like it could be a three vote as like, no, no, no, you're fine. You are fine. It's not going to be three vote. We've got Sam us three and Sam done samll vote to keep you for sure. Damian will vote to keep you. I don't know Damian payments real close with us. And it doesn't doesn't matter. You're gonna be fine. This is Dane, of course, trying to convince Adam to if he wants to use the metoo on Dane in order to keep in safe. I'm sure this is going to be continued conversation because Adam goes off in a whole different thing. And Dane doesn't here where he says he says I think I need to win the veto though. And so this is the start of something I think, but I haven't doesn't seem to receptive to it. Yeah. It's because Adam is. He's so now put in this mindset of needing to protect him and Sam as a pair that he I think just doesn't even. I don't know if it's that he really truly believes that Dane would be safe or if he just doesn't even care and would choose over Dane like I don't know if Adam has really thought about like if it's this person or this person because it kind of well. He did have a conversation with Anthony earlier in the day where he was like should we be worried about Dane? But today he was much more confident. Like, no, you're good bureau. Doesn't have to be used. I think he I think he's totally fine with Dame being I think he thinks that they can save Dane. But I think that if he has to face the choice between Dane could go home or Sam could be on the block, I think he chooses. Dan, could go home for sure. So is. Is the right thing for Adam probably. It doesn't matter. You can't fault. Some other funny things that were happening Kira dressed up in the same outfit as Anthony and was mimicking Anthony the whole night. Like copying Anthony says and trying to like mimic, his mannerisms and. Say Anthony esque things, which is very funny. One of the games they were playing Corey came up with it. It was sort of a board game E kind of thing and they had to do different challenges if they matched up against other people. And so they were doing thumb wars, which was very silly. But they were also doing having to do impressions of each other. And there are some very funny impressions, Nikki, Nikki, impressions they were. Pretty funny Adams impression of Corey in particular was very good. And that would be a fun thing to check out if you are interested in that sort of thing it was it was pretty fun. It's pretty fun stuff. So that's really that's really what we had for. I there was like a good ten minute conversation where KIRO was trying to convince Anthony and Corey that Hamza was on two seasons ago. And I just. It's fine. Yeah. What we're working with? Work with and cures. One of the more knowledgeable people in the. It may actually figured it out what they were trying to think of they were trying to come up with a plan because this is they they're nervous in the beginning of the day. Making sure don't put me up on the block. You never wanna put your friend up. Like what happened to seasons ago with Hamza eventually figured out what they were talking about was with Andrew Ryan. But it's fine. Without we got there. Benchley took like ten minutes. Also like is like when he's not in like sulky atom owed is like very funny, and like one other one they were another challenge they're doing where was the questions game where they can only respond with another question when they fail that then they lose. It is very hard. Cure is very good at it. And so for that they had to come up with scenarios. And so Adam every time was just immediately ready with like a really like soap opera dramatic scenario like she just stole your girlfriend. You. There was one. Here's like you want to get an abortion in you don't want her to they're like, no, no. And his impressions were great. So. Fun stuff stuff. Adema secret telenovela? So I think that's the case. All right. So yeah, that's so proper in this big brother house. Yes. They also did they talked about they were all impressed with ST the night before talking to them about intellectual things like like Irwin's theory of evolution, right? Right. And I think I think Dane was trying to like Simone Foyt something for. You don't you guys don't know about Freud. And he was like, no, no, no. We know about him. Okay. More impressive. Steve giving out intellectual conversations or the creepy noise that she can make. I don't know. On roy? All right. Bye. Can find me on Twitter at Armstrong? Erin. Mary we can find you can find me on Twitter at frail, Mary tag, clean sweep hashtag clean sweep. I'll be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update and everything that happens today on the big the candidate seven live feeds and then tomorrow night, we'll be live to recap they Sunday night episode of the candidate. And then Monday night. We'll be updating the stock watch where Mary might be in for a windfall. And also talk about the and everything else. Great. So. Next time.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 24 | Sunday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 24 | Sunday Morning Update Podcast

"Doc. Rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. That he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for March twenty fourth Armstrong. And with me today is Kirsten Hayden. Kristen I'm okay, I'm better than the other updates who are so dead that they can't even be here. But I am on quite a lot of cold medication. And I was also yesterday while I watched the feeds took these notes. So just a disclaimer I might not make a whole lot of sense today. But do I make a lot of sons normally that's up for debate. So a plague truly has befallen the life of. Flag as Kirsten says. Here on a big brother Canada update. I think I should be able to just have my regional differences in speech without hate. I think everybody should be speaking more like us during big brother Canada. That's right. You're going to say, it's bag mess. Right. Everyone. Yes. Well, we are here to bag up the uptodate for. You know, everything that's happening in the big where the at seven house yesterday. It was day twenty two in the house. And there's there's a lot the one on. This is a lot going on. There's still some plans in the works and some things happening some people moving around. So we got a lot to talk to you about today. Yes, there is a lot. But I just need to say, I I'm really really annoyed that day. Twenty two happened on the twenty third of March. It's making me really mad, and it shouldn't. But it really is. It's literally every like was since I started counting the like putting the days in the update. Now, it's it's literally my entire notebook is three slash twenty two day twenty one he slash twenty day nineteen. It's just one off. Why did they do this to us? At least it will be April soon, and the days will no longer correspond with the days of the month. And it'll be a little bit easier to manage. Yeah. But it's truly crazy. All right. So to start the day off something else that's going to drive a lot of people crazy is that KiKi ST. We're talking about. Hey. Guys alliance that maybe it's like day Dane, and the Mark Nadda m-, and they're like keeping each other safe and making the girls all go against each other. Wouldn't that be so smart of them to do that? Yeah. That would be that'd be really smart. I wonder if they're doing that. Dame's loyal to us. Yeah. They're just like like STI like, oh, do you think? Like, they'll turn on us. I and he's like, yeah. There is bringing up girls names, two minutes later. It's like, yeah. Like Dane, we have to protect Dane he is with us like he would not turn on us. He would turn on them. And it's like well. Okay. I guess. Anthony, he's so cool. He would never do that to us. Right. Yeah. It's at one point as doing her mere CHAI yesterday. And she's like talking about the people she actually cares about Dana, Anthony or two of the people. So. Yeah. Theory people people are getting very excited about this especially yesterday morning as it was happening live during the update. And and I was like, let's let's remember who is saying this and not get our hopes up. And you know, I think that that should stay in place here. I think that for all of us to enjoy the rest of the season we need to keep our expectations low. So that at the very least you want our expectations will be met. It's whatever the PB whatever are running the game one of them wins, blah, blah, blah. But best case literally anything else happens. But if we keep expectations low we can't be disappointed. Yeah. I gotta say I am really enjoying the feeds though. There's just something about the dynamic in this house and the people in it. It's really interesting to me. And I was trying to figure out what it is. I think that part of it is that when there's secrets when there's like a big secret. And it's like it's like permeating every relationship in the house. It makes every every conversation more interesting to me because everybody's playing each other versus when like all the lines are kind of out in the open interest down to competitions. Then they're just hanging out and like actually having real conversations, and that's that's like real life. That's boring to me. I like when there's like secrets in every conversation. See I was going to say it's like a horror movie where you're just screaming. Don't go in there. Don't do that. And just like that level of anxiety the entire time. Which is I think bringing a little bit of it to to us. You know, I don't know. Yeah. I'll get back to later when we talk about this very interesting conversation between key and Mark. But that's that's not till the end of the day here. So so kicking ST they go through that. And of course, it's not really gonna go anywhere. But KiKi does talk to sorry Esti does talk to Kira about this. I guess possibility of guys lines. And again, I don't really know where this idea came from. If maybe Kira had talked to them about it before. And that's where the the idea sparked, and then they kind of talked about it again. I don't know why they felt comfortable going to Kira with this potential information. But they talked to cure or SD talk to your like, hey, you know, what do you think there's guidelines? We didn't really see this on the feed. So we don't know exactly again where this what happened here what it was. But cure is we found out from Kira? They ended up telling Chelsea and Sam that s is talking about a guys lines. And so this information they? Literally talked about it that morning and immediately this is spreading to Chelsea and Sam who are going to tell Adam. And this is just spreading like wildfire. You can't mention the guys and alliance in the same sentence without this just immediately go into the guys. And now it's going to look like it was, you know, SC who came to this realization when it's not KiKi came up with this, really. And he was like really like you think so that would be so smart. And then now it's going to get pinned on ST, which is not good for her. Yeah. But for I ever reason, it doesn't really blow up Sam and Adam talk about oh should Sam. Should I Sam saying should I go until Anthony about this? Should I should I goes to the guys and let them know? And like, well, maybe maybe you should wait. And ultimately, they kind of hold onto the information for now doesn't really go anywhere. And I honestly I don't think it will end up mattering all that much. I think that the guys feel so confident in their control of KiKi and ST for good reason that I don't think they'll care if they hear about this. And it just also feeds into like the threat of the day is that Kira keeps talking about how they are going to blow up that there is this all guys alliance, and it is somehow going to save them and Chelsea from action. Because for some reason, they still believe the Dane would target atom or one of the boys. And it's like, hey, you're sitting here, you're pretty sure there's a guys lions you think that this is a problem. One of the guys is currently. H O H, but you're going to blow up the guys alliance as your way to save yourself. There's just a disconnect there where even when they kind of think. Okay, there is this. This guy's alliance are working together. They everyone still thinks that they have their guy more than the guys alliance does which is exact reason, I guess why this works, but I don't know why everybody thinks that their hold over everyone is stronger than everyone else's hole. But they do then cures case. It's it's they seem to believe that both Adam is more loyal to their sort of people. And Dane is more loyal to them. Like, they feel like they really developing a good relationship with Dane and the dangerous them with a bunch of information. And it's no Davis playing new. He's playing you and your phone. Yeah. The. Anyone thinks that they have gained more than either the boys or ST is a little bit ridiculous. But it's just this misinformation is everywhere as well. As the information everyone's confused, and it just it was messy yesterday. Honestly, nobody should feel like they have Dane, including the pretty boys because this guy has no allegiance to anybody. And and he will stab anybody in the back, and he will basically, basically let us know that as like this. He has no loyalties in this game. Dane is literally exhausting to watch like just the way that he communicates. Honestly, it's so tiring need a coffee just to keep up with him talking. I don't know. I don't know how anyone keeps a straight face when they're talking because I feel like I would just be glazed over like what what what did you say to me he has the secret weapon, which is that he has teeth missing. And he just looks like a dummy. Like he he comes off like he's just a big dumb jock. And like nobody thinks that he is as savvy of a player as he is in in the way that he's a savvy player, which is like the social sort of. I'm like playing everybody kind of thing. They think he's a lot more genuine than he is. Because of how I think how he looks how he sounds, and I think that really helps him because it's like no he's lying to you like literally week one. He swore on his dad father and went back on it. And he has now sworn on his father again, but people still believe him, which is absolutely wild. And he's saying like he talks to Mark later. And he's like I literally split the house in half week two and the half. I went against love me the half that I went with love me. I don't know. I can't even make people hate me in this game. This is a lot easier than I thought it was going to be. Well, I feel like those are words like come before. But okay. Minute. You're saying things like that is the minute. You know that things are coming anyways. And we talked about Anthony last week. And I think the problem is that we've got like four different people talking like not all of them can fall. They could all fall. It's still only very true. It's nuts. I'm really upset that last Sunday. I didn't come in with my Mark reminds me of season three Kevin Martin take. Because now, it doesn't seem that exciting or interesting. I had it my notes, and I didn't say it. And I'm just like, no one will believe me that I had it written down. All right. So. Mark and Adam are going to talk a little bit. Mark wants to know if Adam once Chelsea to stay because that's what they're concerned about their concern that Adam is going to start campaigning for Chelsea because he's controlled by Sam. So Sam wants Chelsea to stay then obviously atamans Chelsea to say because he's completely amored by Sam we'll do anything she says, which is like other. So so Adams, like there'd be benefits to keeping Chelsea cure is actually a bit of a threatening. Mark is kind of like, I don't know about Chelsea Mark also says to Adam look if I win the next h I'm gonna make a move hoping good for you. And and good for the pretty boy. Good for the pretty boys. Also good for you automatically. Yeah. He also says stop giving Sam so much information because he runs around and tells everyone, and so I think we all have a little bit idea. Mark Smith would be if he wins. Marcus, Marcus interesting because he he really I think more than anyone else puts on a different face depending on who he's talking to and with Adam. It's usually, and he's actually I think referred to it this way. It's a lot more that carrot than the stick with Adam for Mark. And and so, you know, I, and he also heat Mark is the one more than anyone else that brings up like, I don't know. Just throwing this out there guys is it that bad if we keep him around. I don't know. That's all I'm saying. So I really am not entirely. Sure. What Mark would do also. No. He would he would love for Sam to not be in the jury if especially if he's going to be sitting next to Adam. But, but I I really don't know. I think that there's definitely a chance that he takes out Sam tries to keep Kira around as a potential final to go. Or he tries to take out. I thought maybe he would go after SDN KiKi. But as we'll talk about later in the day. Maybe that's not as on the table as we thought. And so, you know, lots lots of lots of possibilities here for Mark. Maybe he is really gunning for for Sam at this point. And he's certainly telling the other pretty boys that yeah. And so, but we don't know what we can believe because always see Mark being a different person with everybody. And we don't really see he doesn't really talk to the cameras. We haven't really seen a lot of DR's from him. So we have no idea what his who is like the real Mark. But I just he doesn't connect socially as well as some of the others. So I just got a big red flag with him. So power of veto players are going to be picked here, obviously, Chelsea and Kierra will be competing. They will be competing with Sam Corey and Mark. So Sam is competing in the veto the possibility here for Sam to win the veto and take Chelsea off the block is still in play. But then the question becomes can Sam win it. And if she does will she even use it because she talks with Dane, and she's really trying to convince Dane not toback door her. So she's promising him the stars and the moon and everything in between because I will definitely not use the veto. Of course. Not Dane, I would never do that to you just don't backdoor me if I lose. So it's hard to say what Sam actually would have done because spoiler. She lost them. You know, if she wanted, but but there was a lot of controversy about like will she win. We'll she throw it. If she does win will she use it? We're not sure because Dane is just like, hey if. It comes down to you or KIRO you have to win them. But you can't use it. I would never use it. And then he also comes up to the plan of. Hey, also, if you can get Chelsea to throw it to you. That'd be great. And like, I don't know if Sam is that cold hearted, Dan. No, Dane, literally is like it's between you and Chelsea or you Kira you have to win. And you just tell them that you'll win. So that you'll be safe, and you can save them. And then just don't use it. Do you like you really think Sam is about to be that savage this early like Dane really thinks people are just going to do what he tells onto new stain is also going to basically go around telling people that if veto is used by Sam that atom will go up on the block, which I actually think is a smart thing to say he's banking on the fact that Sam won't win and use it that's a small possibility. And if that's possibility does come up, and he'll have a little bit of explaining to do. But in the event that that does not happen, which is the more likely outcome than it does kind of take some of the heat off of this idea that maybe adamant and Dana working together that he was willing to put out. I'm on the block because we're else would have said he was gonna put on the block. And also, it's a deterrent four Sam to use the veto because he also tells Sam that like, hey, I don't wanna put them on the block. But in the event that you did use the veto. I might have to put out on the buck, and she's all I wouldn't use to anyway. So it's not even it's not even a problem. So that is the story. And I do think I do think that I think that for me the last few days have been sort of realization that these these pretty boys they are learning. And I do think they're getting better at the game as they're going along eating Dane in particular. I think has gotten better he realizes now that he should not be the one to go after Sam this week if you can help it he's realizing that he should say that he's targeting Adam to certain people in certain ways where he's not actually going to have to do it. Because it does take some heat off of him. I do think that Anthony has learned to some extent. But maybe not as much as. The others. I think Mark is learning. And and I think Adam is sort of trial by fire here. Just trying to hold on. Yeah. I I like they're learning Danes learning. Anthony is doing fine markets learning Adams there. He's too. I think Adam is learning that like what I think Adam is learning is that his entire worldview has been wrong. Like, I think he's learning that like. What am I what am I doing in my life? Why my loyalty guys? I am loyal. But why this sucks? Yeah. Just with him having the closest relationship outside of the pretty boys makes it a little bit more difficult for him. And I don't think he realized it would be this difficult. So Dane is he talks to the cameras, and he says like look, I really hope that they don't win the veto the in Chelsea orchestra because I don't want to put Sam up on the block this week. It would cost so much drama, and this is a complete one eighty to even just a few days ago. I really do feel like they're starting to figure out like the right game plan for themselves. And he's like, I I I really hope that Chelsea occurred on win. If Sam does go up, then get ready for some guys 'cause it's going to be crazy. And the thing is the act like that's the only thing he could do. But there's so many other viable moves where he could do something that will be a little bit less dramatic since. They all are pretty sure there's going to be a double coming this week. I feel like this game is like have you ever seen those graphs for what people think success looks like and it's like a straight line. And it's like what success is actually jumbled like spiral. That's what this game is. Because. They take two steps forward three steps bag. And then suddenly they figured it out. And everything's right. Then all of a sudden it's back to just stupidity. And then it's just it's exhausting, but seeming, Nikki. I really like this as she says Adam had this has had this plan for five years, but he didn't expect that it would be this hard. I think that's totally on point here. I think that he really feels like this is the brigade two point. Oh, and he's like so attached to that idea that even though his feelings are pointing him in another way. He's like this is how it's supposed to be. And he'll even have a conversation later where he's I I'm like the Hayden of the group, and you guys have to pull me back in from from the Kristen. And with thing is is like totally makes sense because Ottomans been trying for so long to get on the show he wants to be there so badly, and he probably goes to bed like a majority of the nights thinking, what would I do if I actually got in? What did I do wrong that I didn't get cast? How could I play the game? Really? Well, like what what would I do if I was there, and he's just he's in his head so much and it took him so long to get there that the reality of it is just so different from what he imagined. And he's having trouble coping with that. We're also getting asked wise the POV ceremony today. Apparently, the the it is on the screen that the ceremony is today. I'm not sure why it is usually on Monday. I dunno. If maybe it's an error, or if it is actually going to happen today. And if it does then why maybe it's because of the double maybe it's maybe there's another twist coming up who knows? Yeah. They might need more time to get the footage together for something else. That's happening in the Wednesday or Thursday episode. It could even be something as little as staffing issues where the people who need to be behind all of the walking through the door, and all that they just might not be available tomorrow or something had also trying to think if there's anything else. No. But I was trying to think if there's anything else like a big one off production that incite might be working on tomorrow. But I don't think so. So I don't know. So it might indicate something in my not just kind of stay tuned. I guess so ST is also going to talk to the cameras and. Thank you can see Kirsten pain face pain, so much like she. She's like, I'm so annoyed. He's. He's. People guy slept in Danes room. And I didn't people are saying we made out and that obviously didn't happen. I sleep with a gentleman. I did not sleep with that. Pretty boy. She's like kike tried to make up a couple's name for us in front of everyone. And I'm so upset that she did that. And I know she didn't have ill intent. But I'm frustrated. She knows I wouldn't want that. She also was talking about how Dana good relationships with everyone in the house in front of everyone. And it's like come on come on get a have a brain. No, no. She has a brain. I'm not the only brain Ono. Sorry kiki's. Really smart. It just like just like be mean just being mean talking to the cameras don't backpedal. It's just very annoying. And then finally after that she's like okay now, I'm going to break down my game. Ain't you? That's what we're here for. That's what she says. Kiki is my number one Dane is my number two, then Anthony than Damian. I don't really care about anybody after that. I don't trust Eddie or Kira? They're irrational. They're they're not, trustworthy, the people. I wanna see go home. Chelsea I then Sam then Kira, then Mark then atom than Damian and just minus Mark Mark from this list. And it's like his exactly what Dana Anthony one. Well. Another thing too as she says. Damian as one of the people that she likes up top. And she says, yeah. Then probably Damian, and then she wants me out before other people who she said she hasn't care when they go just like, what are you talking about? I think she mostly just forgot about Eddie here. And he's in. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Why I don't know why she said Damian so early. I think I feel like she was probably just thinking of like Damian last. The four of us Dane, Anthony. And she forgot about like Eddie and Corey because like, you know, can't really blame her that much forgetting about inquiry. You know, what that's crate for Eddie and Cory keep beating forgotten. I think last week when I was like I'm Cory has a chance to win. I think it was more. So because I was like she's coming in late. There's no way that someone who comes in. Lakewood went I'm coming around on that Corey might actually have shot so happy for her. Yes. Doing pretty well, she is competing in this veto though. So we'll see how that goes for. I wonder what's going to happen. Yeah. Adam Dane and Anthony have a conversation. And and this is the one where Adam brings up that. He's the Hayden before that Adam is going to try to do his little campaign to try and get Chelsea to stay. They were prepared for this. So they know that and that Adam is going to try to do this. So basically everything Adam says, they immediately know Adams like listen guys, I was thinking he's trying to be subtle at them. I know curious kid. They're gonna start running around. They're going to start talking about guys lines. Like, that's that's kind of threat doesn't matter. No good. Great. Nobody will believe them to everyone knows they're liar. So it doesn't matter. I I feel like they're the only ones that are going to put up like two two guys. Not always a lot of it. Doesn't matter. Chelsea's going home. Here's like what if the golden saying, there's a guy's lines. Anthony's like well deny it. He's like he's just keeps running into a brick wall. So then he kind of pivots. And he's like, okay. I have this information about KiKi SD's. I okay. Well, what do you guys think? Do you think KiKi s deliver? You know, they're thinking about a guys thing. No, they're so focused on Sam it doesn't matter. They'll never they'll never find us out. But me and Sam. Like deeming Sam. And my it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Sam go you'll be safe. It'll be fine. Daines? Like, do you understand this? Just like trading him like you so stupid to his face. And then Anthony is going to give him a whole thing about you have to understand that Sam, and Chelsea they were plotting against you, and you have to you have to know, you can't be you can't fall into that trap. And you know, when you build your castle on sand than it will crumble, so we built our castle on concrete. And that's that's really the the thing that stick. Yeah. And Anthony also is like your loyal, the loyalties etched in stone. We will never plot against you. The girls have been plotting against you. So just a little church for me. But okay. Dave is gonna talk to Chelsea and be like, hey, you got to win. You gotta win this power veto. Because basically what he's when he was talking to the cameras like if Chelsea or cure win the veto, then I have to back door Sam, and I have to pretend that was the plan all along. And so this is him trying to plant those seeds to Chelsea like, hey, Chelsea you gotta win the veto. I'm telling you, you know. No. I want I wanna make something happen here. And and then after she leaves he says sorry Canada. My word is no good. Straight up. Yeah. It's not like he's trying to pretend that his. Well, he is kind of. But not really now Housego honest with us, which is what matters to me. So you know, what? Awesome. We. So the veto is played. And I don't know if you caught the foreshadowing in this update was planted in subtle, really subtle. But Corey is going to win this veto, and oh, I don't like this. Why should really didn't have to do this? There was no benefit to her. She's not getting anything out of it. And and you know, every half the house already calling her like GI, Jane GI, Corey I don't know what it is. But but they already are feeling a little bit threatened by her especially in the in the physical sense. And this was a apparently a competition that she just dominated and g she wanted pretty handle it one. The other thing too is like yes, it does seem like it was super physical. But it also seems like maybe it was played rounds of like one or says one and Corey probably benefited from not really being chosen to play that much. So she should have certainly thrown this. Yeah. I mean, basically how most people were talking about this competition. It was like, wow, we never had to worry. Nobody was beating Corey. So it's like. That's not a good thing for people to think if they don't if you're playing the game that is playing it's also like it might have been very very obvious that it was in her wheelhouse. And so her throwing it might have made her look sketchy are like until we actually see the competition, we won't know for sure like might not be as bad as it seems like she's just going to not use it probably especially since ceremonies happening today. So I think she'll probably be able to slide by do. Okay. I'm I'm worrying. No, she might like really try to win the double. But I don't know. Well, she's pretty quickly gonna talk to Anthony about winning veto what she should do about it. And Anthony is going to go through as well. What's going to happen? You can. Us veto on Chelsea. And then Sam goes up and everyone's mad, and so basically he's telling don't use the veto. She's like, I'm not going to beat out. And so she also is going to say like, I'm gonna talk Dane, and she's really concerned about like what she's going to say to the people on the block about like how why she's not gonna use it? Like what how do I tell them? I'm not gonna use it. So that's what she's going to talk to Dana vote in particular as well. So that's that's her kind of whole whole thing. Yeah. Like Corey is very nice like she very much worries about what other people are going to think are say. And I think that's why Anthony has such a stranglehold on her because he's like if you do this people just like you, and he reassures her who does like that. He does like her and that people do like her like the right people to work for his game. So it just she's she's a people pleaser, and that's my biggest concern with her. Adam talks to Chelsea he's really hoping. He's really still hoping that KIRO will go home. He he would rather have that happen. He hopes that cure will blow up, and then everyone will be mad at them and make them go home over Chelsea Chelsea kind of feels like even curable is up. I think I'm still going home. I Chelsea is really like she really feels like this is a lost cause. She's she's she's kind of done. Yeah. And it also sounds like maybe she also was close to winning the veto. And so she says the comp probably sealed the deal as well. Yeah. So I just I want her to fight. But the pro I think part of the problem is that the the way for her to fight at this point is to completely throw cure under the bus, and she's really concerned about her public image. And like, I think that she, you know, she's like an ally. And she doesn't want to be seen as like really just trashing person after. They really went on after her like saying that they that she was using them and using their crush on them hurt their crush on them. And then saying that like they manipulated by her. And I think she's really like really concerned about all of this stuff. And she's just kind of like, you know, I'm just gonna let caretake this one. Yeah. Curious guilt trip. Worked vary victory. Well, be better. Like, I don't even know how much care was intending it as like a guilt trip for her game. And how much like Chelsea's game? Right. Like like, I thought I thought it was just personally upset how tricky. But it has worked out really really well for Kira. So. It's just it's really disappointing Chelsea came in Chelsea was the one who did pageants. Right. And Chelsea was like pageant girl, and I'll stab people in the back and all that. And it's the the worry about the public image. Just really is really disappointing. See someone just lay down and die. There's there's still plenty of days until the fictions flip-flopping house, very flippy floppy. People people saw Dane say that in the Damian say that in the episode, and they were like Damon's been watching the live feed updates seem flippy floppy. Yeah. That was actually the high level Intel Dahi he won. And. Yeah, as he was actually a millions lounge watching our age AP. Yeah. They just you know. They didn't wanna show that on the that'd be too too. Crazy. Game breaking. But, but yeah, I do think that there's so many days left. I hope that Chelsea's fighting spirit will will kick up sparked, and we'll we'll have some fun. But for now, she's she's fulfils feels very defeated. Yes. And then with how like Kierra reacted last night too. Like with what is in? We're talking about next. It's just a like mind. Cure has a conversation with Sam and Chelsea. And I is talking about like oh hope candidate saves us. I hope as. Feel bad that we're each other and Chelsea's Canada doesn't give a shit. Right. And this is the worst. This is one of the worst parts about the twist is everyone always being Canada's save us. And the fact that it will work if if there's a candidate thing because they'll add the ad it will be that way. But but yes, cure a really hoping that Canada will save them. And then cure talks about how they've talked today. And they're trying to get into maybe flip on Adam. And they were talking about him working with the guys kind of confronted him. Like, hey, are you working with the guys they stood their ground? And Dane said, no, I'm working with KiKi nasty, and I kind of have a good relationship with Anthony. And I have a good relationship with adamant, I'm using them as a shield, and and I'm really hoping that the guys can get the guys to turn on each other. And and that's the game plan out. He deigned told you all that information. And why did he tell you all? Yeah. He's trying to pull me in as a as a number to work with. So he's trying to get me to trust him and Chelsea. Makes a joke. Like, you know, I could use this information to like send you home and carriage. It's like burst into tears like it goes from zero to one hundred immediately. If you're one of the people who just goes by the updates, and doesn't watch the feeds there is this video on Twitter, and you should absolutely go back to watch it. Because CARA is inconsolable immediately league. It's not even like she's like started. They're trying to like. I'm sorry. I'm having trouble. Because a lot of the house gusts have just completely stopped using correct pronouns care, which is really not. Okay. So when I'm reading the updates, it gets confusing and. Updates. We need to do better. We don't need to do. Direct quotes of what they say. We could just use to pronouns. But they are just immediately like solving like they're not trying to like block tears. They're not trying to stop doing it there. Just out of control nearly Chelsea stop crying. I'm going home. I'm not going use this against you. And cares. Like, I'm so stupid. And so stupid. I trust you too much. I trust. I trust too much. It's such a problem for me. Oh, man. Fairly. There's more of this happening as we speak because cure is going to continue to basically campaign for themselves over the course of the day, and I guess this came out a little bit. And so now, they're in an argument Chelsea where they're doing some more guilt tripping. And can you not do this to me you are questioning me? And it feels like you're putting up a wall against me. And Chelsea's I've talked to you for four seconds. Oh, my. Align curious, I know, but I saw the way you look at me. It's just. It's just so much like the emotional outburst like pure it. Honestly, just needs to keep it cool. Like they've they just need to tell. And they'll probably be fine. They're losing Chelsea says. I haven't even said me thing cure. But I feel it. Oh, man. It's just like it's too much. Like here is doing too much. Keira runs to Corey she's going to do everything blow my game to stay even though we have been friends what the FM so annoyed like, it's just yes. Sorry about that. Yes. It is annoying to be up against the person that you were the closest with that is a horrible situation because you are put in a place where you have to either lay down and die, which is horrible. And everybody hates it. Or you have to go against your close alliance member. And it's frustrating, but you have to do that to stay like, it's such an opportunity to be there. You have to do what you have to do. That's what it is. Here is the perfect storm of Ling massive guilt trip on their ally. Who they're on the block with like, how dare you even think about doing anything without me or campaigning at all. Then they go and campaign there is off. And then if they get a hint that the other person is saying or even looking like, they might campaign. They're like. They're like, how dare you? I guilt trip you once more. It's it's ridiculous. It's so much even one point yesterday. Kelsey sad. Like, I haven't really like as a result of the guilt trip. Chelsea says I haven't been loyal to before. So now, it's the least I can do to be loyal now. And just go home. The talking they talk in the. To the they've talked to the cameras about like to end to think I was even considering using the veto on Chelsea instead of myself. No, you weren't you were not doing that. All well and good to say that you are going to use veto on someone else when you are on the blog. But unless you have that true love connection brea love, it's not happening. It's good to say that after you've now apparently decided not to do it anymore. So this is going back to last night curious crying. It was a joke chill, and they try to come for them. It's it's a whole thing. So much. So Corey is going to talk today about not using the veto. She's again, she's going to go through what she's gonna tell Kira, and Chelsea basically, I want I don't want to go against h. And it's a fine conversation corey's really again, just like this is what I need to to any state cure that respecting each region. Chelsea. This is what I'm gonna do. And it happens. Next. We're gonna have KiKi and Mark. And this is one of these conversations that I was talking about earlier and just this is a very I found this to be a very interesting conversation. It was very hard to watch especially at first because basically KiKi as we know hates Mark Martin knows that KiKi doesn't like him. But they both. They both had our good relationship at the start of the game. And it just deteriorated because they don't like each other very much, or at least KiKi doesn't like him very much, and he was aware of that. And so, but they've both have been pretending that doesn't exist. And so anytime they have a conversation. It's just like kike being super passive aggressive like with every comment in every bit of body language to Mark. And Mark, you know, basically being like a pretending to be completely oblivious to it. And so there. Just pretending to get along. And so this the start of this conversation is all kinds of hostility all over the place where Mark is like asking questions and just like. I mean, I guess so. Yeah. One it's also to earlier in the day when he can STI we're talking about. Oh my God. When this guys thing be so smart, they even when they're talking about their relationship with Mark. They're not like, oh, yeah. Mark getting close with us. It's Mark trying to pretend he's close with us like where pretending to be closely. Everybody knows. And so it's it's it's it's like KiKi knows that she needs to pretend that she doesn't hate him. But she's so bad at it that next recipe face. Yes. She's she radiates hatred in his turn action. And so awkward, and then so they're talking about, but they're trying at the same time. They're both trying to bond and it's weird weird dynamic, but it was really interesting to watch especially because of the dynamics involved with with power and who's keeping what secrets so so. She's asking him. He he's he wants to let her know a secret. This will help them bond. The secret is that he was actually in radio and. And it's a big deal. I'm really smart. And I I work in I worked in radio, and, you know, Kevin Martin's my favorite player and all like, she's like. Way. What that was that was your secret Broncos shaping? I felt I'm sorry. Just felt like you were gonna say mornings like not. I mean, I just please don't tell anyone that. I really hope you don't tell even ask don't tell us like this is my seared means a lot to me. She's like, I don't know. Just doesn't feel like I mean, I understand. It means a lot would just felt like at doesn't. That's nothing. She's like like you guys are pals like your pals with Kevin Martin. And like, we're not passing never met him in my life. Madam. Nope. Not. That's not it. I thought you were going to drop a bomb and that that wasn't quite anything. This is basically like if brunt had been like a secret mathematician, and instead of, you know, her friends being like, whoa. They just been like. Okay. Lame cool. Okay. Math is lame. Why are you telling this? Let's basically Kiki's reaction. Yeah. And parks like you wanted to know why I like, Kevin so much, whatever whatever. And so he's he tries to like get to like in. They're trying so hard, and it's it's it's it's a weird dynamic where it's almost like he's trying to ask her out on a date and their friends, and she's trying to find the right words to tell him. I'm not interested in that way. But let's remain friends. But it's not that it's actually the complete reverse of that where he's trying to propose like, hey, let's get on closer terms. Let's get like blitz bond some more so that we can work together better. And she's trying to be like, I hate you. And I'm trying to. Hide that so that we can remain working together. And so you really it reminds me of like if you're on public transit on you have your headphones, and then some guy just keeps talking to you. And they won't so talking to you. And you take your cool. You put your headphone back in. Yeah. Yeah. Except for they are on this bus for a few more months. So they have to be a little bit nicer about it. You know, this person that's talking to them could be a valuable ally in on the bus. This is like you're there, and you have to be there for a long time. It's not just like three bus stops. And then you're off. But that's what it feels like to me as it's like every time Eiseke talking to Mark. I'm just reminded of anytime when I have to be like white, let did you say to me? Put it back in and they're not. No, that's just what it reminds me. She's also trying to get through the conversation without saying as much as possible. So like, she what she's still trying to explain like why things have been weird because he's like you kind of an asshole to me for the last twenty one days, and she's like are you calling me an asshole. No saying you've been in asshole to me for the last twenty one days, and it's just they have this sort of thing. It's just so weird. And so she's like, well, listen like you talked about Kevin Martin. How's your favorite player if you think about it? Kevin Martin season three P. Kevin Martin's season five had William. And that's kind of shady you see what I'm saying. Yes. I see what you're saying totally get that it's just so much. And I also like in the middle of this conversation to marks like Kevin was a thousand percent going home. He was only saved because of a twist. She's like, why do you like him so much? She was like, well, that's what he's like he only made it because William and he was like she was like, exactly. And so. So they do eventually because what he eventually figures out. Right. Is that the face he needs to put on here is that of this sort of nerdy guy asking a pretty girl out. And so he starts putting on this sort of air of like, hey, I'm just I'm just like this lowly guy. And you know, I just feel kind of left out because it's, you know, as you and ST and Dane, and you guys are so close, and I kind of feel like I'm left out sometimes and in is such a great guy, and he like he's carrying us. Right. Like, he's winning all these competitions. I just wanna step up, and I want to prove I'm worth it and prove worthy in carry my own way. And prove to you guys that you know, that I can I can add something to the team and this sort of like humble like self deprecating like, I just wanna prove myself thing really plays into the idea that KiKi has of their relationship, which is that KiKi. All the power because she is. She is the one that's closer to Dane, she is the one that's closer to power. She has this group and Mark on the outs with everyone. And so she is in the position of power. When really he is the one in power because he's the pretty boys. He's feigning that he's not. And so it plays into how KiKi wants to see him. And she starts to open up to a more. And they start to the conversation turns and it starts to be good. And she so she starts to one. No like, hey, okay. Mark let who are you? How could not like who? How can I get to know who you are? And he just runs through his entire life story from like I was born in nineteen ninety two to like to present day, basically. And she actually I think found it kind of interesting, and it opened some doors, and they actually started having a like a pretty decent conversation. Yeah. It's and you know, what I admire it because sometimes you ask someone for their life story, and they're like, so I was born here, and I went to school here. And then I'm now, I'm here, that's my life. It's like. Like. This your whole life. Okay goal. So at least markets like a little bit more. But I'm still at least three times a week. I go to rated tweet and almost right Mike instead of Mark like literally like, and I realized why because I don't I don't know why. But like all I can think of is sailing instructor Mike who is almost on whether you few years ago. Basically, Mark the part of her suspicion and other people's suspicions that he's he's he went to religious school for really long time. How he so smart if he was he went to religious school, but they only teach about religion, and he talked about his family put him in religious school. But he eventually hated it and didn't wanna go anymore. And so like after years and years and years even went to Israel to go to religious school. He he he took his got his GED with with the book, and he studied the book, and then went to college for a couple years for media studies and then got into radio, and he also talked about how he's taking an IQ test. And he was tested for his I q I should say. And that his IQ is either one fifty six or one fifty nine KiKi couldn't remember, and I don't think it was. So so that's out there. Lots of people are like, okay, Mr. BuzzFeed IQ tests, and it's also like. Can me someone who's going on about their? I q score is someone who's not that smart because there's so many problems with q tests, and like specific communities are like never going to do as well on them because like all sorts of other like social issues and all of that. So anyone who's like? Oh, yeah. I know my cue, and this is what it is. I just immediately just count them as not as smart as I think they are in. So I will say to defend Mark you're based on Kiki's explanation of how this went down in. This was really conveyed as well enough through like updates or whatever. But the way KiKi said it was that he like in sort of his story of himself. He talked about how he was tested. So I don't think this is an online quiz. I do think that based on what ki- said it did seem like it was like an official testing sort of thing. And she also said that she was like what's the number? And he was like he didn't want. He didn't wanna say and wasn't I'm and he's like IQ doesn't matter. It's dumb stat. Anyway. Like it does. It's not a thing. She was like, but what's the number Mark? And so then finally said is it was like one fifty six or whatever. So he brought it up in the first place. So he wanted to. He could have just skipped that part when he was tested, I intelligence, and I'm not saying, I don't think he's actually smart like he's proven like especially with his his rhyme for what happened on every day, and he just like can rattle off every single event. He obviously smart and he's got that. Like, I was trying to remember when I was in sequester. I was trying to remember what day things were. And I was like going over things in my head. And like I had a pretty good idea that and I was doing pretty well. But like, I don't have anything going on. I was just like what was for breakfast on this day like, and it's so to remember all this very impressive. Yeah. I don't know is sort of an interesting life story, and he talks about like, how being religious school is part of why you know, he's he he now he he never went through a real like a normal sort of go to school childhood. And so he has problems socially because he'd never really learned how to interact with people he studied to be a rabbi like, and so and it's also interesting because. Despite the fact that I think he does really well in this conversation in playing KiKi and playing up to what she wants him to be. He still has he's still Mark. Right. So he will often go off on tangents explaining things over explaining things in a really condescending way, and you can see her body language immediately change like like, she's starting to fall into this like, okay, I'm kind of liking this. And then he's like, then he like way over explain something. And she's like, okay. Shut. And he gets in his own way a little bit. Yes. Yes. Very much. So, but but basically long conversation, and it was very fascinating to me. And by the end of it. They're both feeling pretty good about the conversation KiKi SD and Dane, eventually join them and Kiki's pretty insistent on like guys. Let's name this aligns KiKi is feeling pretty good. I think at this point. And so they try to come up with names, and it's pretty embarrassing because they're very bad naming things KiKi at one point suggested. And this is probably oddly one of the best suggestions pen fifteen and asked you did not understand what Feen. They were really set on the misfits and Dane had to be like pretty sure that's been used before like fifteen times. So are you telling me, but it is not creative or unique Turford yourself at the Mets. This is news. This is brand new information. Although to be fair. I don't hate trying to might I'll say it. I'll really one. I don't think it's up. I actually kinda like it. Say it right there. It's the best aligns name in the house right now. I just want to say that Kirsten's views do not reflect the views of RAV as podcast. It's been full last time. This came up on a podcast everyone crapped on it. I think that the people know that. So then this sort of break apart Mark talks with Dana afterward, and he tells them about the conversation Kiki's feels like it went really, well, they talk about like Dane like, okay? So because they're the people that know the show better than than KiKi nasty. And so because they were the ones that were like no this has been used before this has been used before. And Marco Dane was like what's an alliance? Name. That's been used for fake alliance. Can we use that name for this alliance? And they were like couldn't really figure it. I was I was like. Bomb squad. Ice where to God. The only thing that could make this season worse for me as a people's are calling themselves the bomb squad. I can't do it. I can't I can't remember now bigger the fourteen the alliance it had something to do with dogs. Right. I it's escaped me. But that was a fake one to even though it's talking about is one of the more successful lines is it's funny. How that works. Anyway, Mark is just talk more about like quack pack that was it not not dogs ducks dog is confused when I was gonna say Quiring pag when I was like did I just forget about us. Because because Dan always talked about how they lead up with the leash 'cause he was in the dog costume time. Yes. He had to have someone walk with him at all. Oh what a season. What a season. Yeah. Markelle Marcus ahead and make sure that nobody is is in the house that's going to pull a fast one a nominate two guys. And they talk about how they're kind of wary of Corey in how good she is a competition. She's a beast G I. Jane, she's dangerous. We need to watch out for Corey. They do feel like Anthony has a good handle on that for now. But they need to keep an eye on her for sure. And then they talk about Anthony and Dane brings up to to Mark Anthony, he's he he talks. It's like angels singing. You should see you should have seen him talk to Adam. It was like he's he talked about castles and sand. Like, we we built our castle and concrete, and I was just thinking like man, I cannot sit next this guy in the final two, I wouldn't pay money to hear evidence final speech with the Tacoma's and the castles on the stand and the rock then like what he use any real words. Or would it all just be platitudes the final the final line of his final speech would be? But most importantly, I stayed humble. No. But meanwhile, he's like things are legendary like this marks the the all three of the other pretty boys the final the final person that Dane has gone to to talk about final two. So he has a final two with Anthony. He's talked to Adam about how they can't go to the final two with Anthony or Mark because they're both good speakers. He's now talked to Mark about how they can't go to the final two with Anthony. He's too good a speaker. And and how Adam especially if Sam gets into the jury is going to have a jury vote already. They talk about Mark talks about like, you realize right? That's like fourteen point two thousand dollars of equity in the in the jury every single vote is worth fourteen thousand dollars. So it's like with salmon the jury if you're up against Adam than you have to get four of the remaining six votes like that's one vote matters a lot. So so Dane really the only person within the pretty boys that's really playing the pretty boys. And so right now he is easily the best positioned amongst them. However, Mark is lightly playing Mark has a lighter hand, and I wonder if that's the better approach because Dan is a bit exposed here haven't talked to all three of them about all three of them. If any of the others talk amongst themselves that could be dangerous which would leave market a better position. But Mark and Dane seemed to be the best positioned within the four if the four make it really far. Yes. And that between the two gainers better inflated in the house audience -ly. So, but I do like marks approach better. I agree with you on that. And that's the thing about Mark is that I think he'd have trouble winning against any of the other guys at least right now. And so when he talks because they all. Talked about how cure is a final to go. And and Dane even mentioned like it was really smart of Kevin to take care into the end over over Dimitri. And as like, I wonder how Mark Fields about Bain saying that. Because I really feel like Marcus talked about the final two I wonder I really wonder what Mark's final two plans are if he if he thinks maybe it is worth trying to bring somebody like you're to the end because I do think that would be as best shot. To win. Yeah. Definitely Dana really goes all in on. Karen? And I just want to disavow that like. You can hear a lot of things, but she was not useless. She won the okay. Let me just let me just get this out of the way all of the houseguests this season. Have the worst big brother takes of all time. They suck. They have the worst takes. They can't get anything. Right. They all talk. And I was going to bring this up when I talked about Damon and Corey, but I'll bring it up right now. Half the house thinks that that that Kayla should've won because Paris did nothing. And the jury was bitter and everybody knows at this point. I firmly disagree with that. I think that's a complete wrong read on the jury and the final two players the other half of the house, the Damian's in the core of the world are like that goes to show what kind of players they are thinking that Kayla should have won because she back stabbed. We. We're the correct decision makers. We think that Peres deserved the win because she was nice and played a nice game. And that's how you should play the game. And it's like, that's almost worse than the other opinion. That's not how Paris played and that's not how you should decide. The winner. They all about opinions. And the house gets opinions are not Representative of the profits. Apparently, the veto was like copies themed. And they were mad that Kayla wasn't a part of it. But Erika was I like not like physically there. But I think they were like images. I don't know. I don't know what exactly it was. But they were like Kayla one way more POV's than Erica. And luckily KiKi was the one I know Erica is there like a third of the time. That's why. She's so good Bill. It doesn't matter. It's the record. And then Dane was talking. Really? It's so annoying. Dumb. Twist. I should be playing these vetoes. But I'm not because of this dumb twist. I'm not going to breaking records. Oh my God. And you know, why people want to talk about copies we're not talking about Ashley what enough anymore. Okay. Guys. Two or three in a row. Two in a row. Maybe maybe three three interro. Yeah. Some anyways he pulled into them respect on her too. Just stop having bad takes here. Guys. Just have the correct opinion. That was great. Anyway, KiKi SD are going to talk about Kiki's conversation with Mark and KiKi feels good about it. She explains most of the conversation. She actually does withhold the radio information. She doesn't tell ST about it. She tells us about the IQ stuff. But the thing that Mark said, please don't tell anyone including SD. She actually did not tell Esti so take that for what it's worth. I mean, that's a good decision regardless of how she feels about Mark. Because it's such an inconsequential thing that it's just not worth telling anyone, even if it blew up later, which it absolutely won't. Because it does not matter. You can say, yeah. I didn't think it mattered. They've never even met. He basically just told me he really likes Kevin Martin, right? This is just basic game logic. It's it's an inconsequential things don't tell anyone because it's not worth the risk that than ST tell somebody and then it gets back to Mark. And the Nate finds out that he can trust you. Kiki is going through and telling the conversation to SD and talking about how Mark really wants to prove himself. You really wants to get in good with them. And he feels on the outs because it's a thing Dane Ezzedine KiKi, and and this is winning Asti over all poor Mark. Taught. It's something else that they talked about was that Mark is really annoyed at Sam. And that he really wants to target Sam. And that makes them feel good because they've been worried that markets playing both sides. And so he was also told him about how Adam was jealous of him. And Sam in that sort of whole thing he was surprised by that. And he was like, oh, man. So I you know, they've really start. They're really starting to feel like Marcus is with them. And it was a successful conversation. We'll see how much this holds given marks bad social game most of the time. But but for now, this is this is really been working. Also, another thing that's really been helping marks in the game. Is that during the power of veto competition? There was I don't know exactly what happened here. But. Cura? I was having trouble with something and Mark like stepped in and really helped them in like carried them through to thing. And I don't know cure later is going to be like, thank you so much Mark. That was you know, Canada's going to see that it's going to be really great great moment for TV. And and so the something happened in the veto. And there's also I know at one point Chelsea is said that she felt bad that Mark was really tired. But she thought that because Marcus tires you could beat him, which is what led me to believe it was a knockout type Chen. Yes. It definitely was they talked about choosing people. And the reason Sam shows me is because. So Anthony and Mark are gonna talk a little bit. They talk about the house Anthony talks about Damian being dangerous. Shut up. Anthony. He also talking about Eddie, Eddie sketchy, but but they can control him Anthony as a terrible plan for the. Salute worst plan like he says that if anyone's h they will pull them in a room, tell them they're an alliance. Here's what you're going to do. And we will bully him into it. He literally says we will bully him basically, he'll pull pull them into a room say we're all in alliance. We've been in an alliance, and if you target us than the rest of us will come for you next week and you'll go home, so but if you work with us, then we'll pull you in. And so that's like will bully him into it by saying this things I'm not saying he's actually going to bully him. But he literally has like we will believe. Direct quote. Yes. And because the best time poll someone in is when you haven't pulled them in for four weeks, and yeah. And so like during this explanation, he's like will pull them in. And we'll say we're in the lions. And then what he'll do is Mark run to everyone and tell them on the lions he was like, no, no. Market is like this is I don't I don't know if this is the best idea ever kissed Marcus trying not to be too adamant about it because he doesn't want to exert too much control. Make himself seem like he is a threat to the pretty boys. But Anthony is just like this is what we're gonna do. And this is what's going to happen? And it's definitely going to work and he's getting so overconfident from all the other things he's done that have worked fat. He's just decided this horrible plan. I really hope he built this plan on sand instead of concrete because he should not stick with it. Honestly, I think most of Anthony's plans are built on instead of concrete. This reminds me of the plan to get Chelsea to be the one to take to take Sam outlets like never actually happened. I don't expect this to actually happen. But it's just it goes to show, the kinds of crazy ideas. Sometimes his thinking about everything. Stina? Nets on Twitter, always talks about people being rabid gamer, squirrels and Anthony half the time as the very good definition of that. It's part of why I think that he is able to be so confident is because he thinks about things so much more than everyone else. He's thought through every scenario anytime you bring up any scenario. He's already got like boom, I've already thought about this. This is what's happening while you're still trying to think it through and reason it out. He's ready figured it out. He's already got reasons to back himself up, and that can really help him be like this sort of like, no this is what we're doing. So. Anyway. Yeah. Finally last conversation, we'll talk about Damian and Corey of a very long conversation that have not room, they it's very long conversation. They they're building trust. They're telling me other things both basically explaining their games to each other. And how they're both playing very similar games, which is like strata hanging here, not say too much that we don't get targeted hope that eventually we can make something happen Corine particular talks about purse strategy is that she doesn't want information. She wants to doesn't want people to tell her things because then if she knows things she'll have to lie, and she doesn't want to lie, and this is. There. This is like the to kind of normal. Nice people in the house having a conversation and just like it's sad because they're so off about so many things and they're like, yeah. You can tell it's like you can see the every think about it everyone who's been lying. They've been leaving the house. It's like that's a karma. There's something that interests ruins your game. That's what's happening. It's like, no, no guys. The reason that the liars are leaving the house, even though they might have had power is because the people who have the real power are convincing you that these people need to leave because they're liars, and the people that are staying in the house are the ones doing the convincing because their life. And also, I don't think anybody can say that Mackey was a liar. He didn't have that capability. So, you know, they're trying, but they they do seem again, they talked about the Paris and Kayla thing guarantee, you these people will be are inclined to be bitter jury members they are not going to be wanting to vote for if Anthony is up there talking about castle's, they're not voting for Anthony. If if Mark is up there explaining what a GED book is they're not phone from hark. They are. I think the people that would vote for Kira over one of the one of the pretty boys if that was an option. Possibly, but I think Corey would be more inclined to over Anthony than right now. Yes. She's been by the way, Corey it's very funny, and and maybe also a little bit. Of course, he's been hanging out with Anthony a lot, and she has been picking up on his methods. So she explains to. Damian. So what have figured out is if you just give people advice and act like a mentor, then they just tell you. It's like, oh, no, she's this. Anthony's thing she's picking up on it. I just I love Corey. Man's blading. Anthony's man's planning. Today. And it's also really ironic because in this conversation where she's explaining that like how she doesn't say a lot. So that people say a lot of things to her then she goes on to explain her entire game. And give away all of the information in the game. She is truly just a people pleaser. He just wants to make people happy which will do well for her for at least a while. I would guess she lets me know that Eddie is sketchy hit a found to Chelsea that he will run to power and Damon's like good to now. And she's like don't tell any anything because he will run that information all over the place and Damon's definitely good to know checking that one on off my list, and she also says about her mentoring things she did that to Mark. And Mark just basically admitted to her that he's playing both sides and Damon's like also very good to know. Damian's game of big brother is like he's playing clue and he's got it. And he's like checking off Mark thinks he is going to play both sides. He's good liar and give people advice and and like in three weeks. Yeah. I actually I think Sam played those production answers that intentionally cause she gave literally the best possible answers. I'm a mediocre liar. I'm gonna try to be myself. I've seen half the season. That's what's going on. We've got targets building on on Damian Corey and Eddie. A little bit danger coming toward KiKi and with their talk of guys alliance. We've got the pretty boy starting to again continue to sort of play themselves. Mark doing a lot of work. Anthony being Anthony Corey winning the veto lots of stuff going on. I again, I've got to say, I'm just I I'm just really enjoying all of the different dynamics going on those. I know it's probably all leading toward one conclusion. But I think I'm realizing able to analyze even more why I do like the seasons. Like big brothers Ecksteen not to say that this is necessarily like that season. It's still very early still a lot can happen. But but I just really enjoy watching the social dynamics here. There's so many interesting things going on. And that's why this update is long because there's so many hopefully, you guys are finding all this stuff as interesting as I am as explaining it because I'm just I'm kind of blue to the feeds right now. And it's like it's a good way to be glued to the. That's all we can ask for is to not be bored on the feeds. The only thing I would wanna bring up because I thought it was kind of fun was when KiKi ST like made up yesterday after ST was mad KiKi. He's like you're mad at me. And she's like, I'm not mad because it was just stupid. Like, you know, it was stupid. So I'm not managing just such like interesting apology. Like, no, I'm sorry. I'm not mad at you. Because you know, it was stupid. And then KiKi explains to Mark and then again in front of Mark and Dane and Esty, and then she tells Esti and she's like, yeah. S two got mad because I made up a couple name for you desk, and how bad and then so then Dane talks about it's a s an ST was like, oh, so you told Dane did you? And dame. Again, this is part of why Dane is able to get away with a lot of that. He does I think especially with KiKi ST is that he's just seems like so over the top and his crush with for ST, and it seems like as playing Dane, but again, the real power dynamic is flipped their and they don't realize it. But. But Dane is like, oh, yeah. I was talking to ST, and she was like once Chelsea leaves one in one Sam leaves like who's going to be the target. It's going to be us three. So we can't hang out as much like, oh, I guess just want to hang out with me. And he's really like harp on that all night long. Like, oh, I guess we can't hang out. I guess me. And you can hang out, and he talks about like as he doesn't like me like that KiKi. You know, it's not like that. Like, he's playing this sort of like four Lauren like, I've got a crush. But she knows she doesn't like me. So I've accepted it, and it just makes it seem like he is under their control when it's not the case. Yeah. He's kind of joining one I hear dead last week except for he's doing it intentionally as a came. All right. So there you go. That's what's been going on anything else that you wanted to bring up Christian. Now. I think we've covered everything. All right. Well, thank you for joining us. You can find us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn Christians at Chris and what I will be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern up that you never happens today on the feeds whether or not there will be POV ceremony. And then tomorrow night, we will have our roundtable talk about the week in the feeds recap the whole thing. Go over the state of the house where everybody stands, and and then stock watch will write the players have some fun. So check it all out. And thank you for joining us.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 24 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 24 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

"Darien rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feet update of four April twenty fourth. I'm your host turn Armstrong. And today. I am here. To update you on everything that happened yesterday on the big brother candidates seven alive feeds was day. Fifty three in the house, and this is a little more eventful than the day before you've got a little some some things to talk about here. So. Let's let's skip straight into it straight into it. Here. The whole house was recovering from the night before so yesterday as I talked about nothing was really happening. Adam remains the H h Mark and and ST are on the block. And it does look like ST will still be going home. And then yesterday, they had this big party party. And in the morning. They're all struggling to recover from the big party ST was throwing up and people were all all over the place apparently estimate out with Dane the night before they talked about it a little bit. So that happened and Adam set the kitchen shares up in the living room as a prank were talking about that a little bit this morning or yesterday morning. And that was that was a lie and Adam did it so. That happened. But we did get some movement over the course of the day, particularly with Kierra. And then also with setting up again, more of the endgame, and and all of that stuff. So we did get cured talking to the cameras. They feel kind of good against a about their position in the game. They feel like they're going to be taken down toward the end. Because. Nobody nobody respects their game. They feel like a good chance of getting to the end. It's their chance of winning that they're concerned about however, they do feel like they are they feel like they have a better chance against Adam than they do against. Dane, they're starting to think about that yesterday in particular, like if they had the choice, they they would take Adam even though he's one more competitions. They feel like they'd have a better chance of beating Adam than Dane. So cure plans on taking Adam to the final two at this point in time, Dane, talks to Adam. And they talk about getting to the final two together. It'd be legendary generic they might they might be the best final two and big brother Canada history. Think about it first season. Gary and Jillian second season. John and Sabrina third season, Sarah and Godfrey fourth season brothers and that girl fifth season. Karen? Six season, Paris and Kayla. We can do it. We'd be the best final two. And like I want I want to say the wrong, but they're actually probably right? They said that girl, by the way, not me. I know it's Kelsey. So there you go there. There's talking about that they talk about the like the jury votes, and you know, thinking about like probably be pretty close between the two of us. Ultimately, probably it would be Mark. And Anthony that decide the vote if Dane gets SDN Damian Adam gets, you know, Kira and Sam Corey probably goes with either Adam or Dane ADEMA saying that she would go for Dane, and then the the deciding votes would come down to Anthony, and Mark they would kind of decide which one of them wins. And so that's how that's how they feel about that. And they they agree that Anthony was probably easy to be. They think that Anthony would get quarrying in maybe maybe marked. But that's, but that's probably it against one of them. And that Adam goes as far as like, hey, if you're sitting up there. You've got my vote. You've got here is you've got Sam so SD Damian really just selling the case to today that he shouldn't that he shouldn't take Adam. But who knows who knows? But, but there you go they they talk about that here. Cure is going to sorry, Dane is then gonna talk to the cameras and. Deign talks about not wanting to win the next h he's been telling them that he's going to try, but he doesn't really want to win this H. So he can't let them know. But he's going to be throwing yet. Another h h he doesn't want to be the one to put Damian on the block he needs his jury vote. So he's going to be throwing this one. He thinks that Anthony will take him to the final two. He thinks that atom will take him to the final two anything's that Mark will take Anthony to the final two. So he wants that final three of Anthony, and Adam and he thinks that up against Adam he would have ST Damian and Anthony at least that he would have at least those three. And so he has a good chance of beating Adam. So he's not too uncomfortable with going to the end with Adam there either. So that's that's Danes plan Dane wants to get to the final three with those three. I think Adam is on board with that. Anthony, probably has other plans, but might not be able to do anything about it. He's going to try though. He's going to do do some work. I was talking about it last night. You can't count Anthony out. That's why gave an eight on the stock watch up there with Dane and Adam Anthony is gonna put in some pretty good work yesterday. Here's a long conversation with Kierra. And they talk about what care my do if they win next week. Anthony's basically trying to convince them to throw the next HOA to that. If they don't throw it. They might be putting a tough situation like who of the foregoes up as pond or anything like that. Curious. Look, it doesn't matter. I don't mind taking a shot. I don't mind having to make that decision. If I don't win. I'm probably going to be the one that's the pond. So. You know, you gotta you gotta be careful there. Anthony says, you know, look you've got a shot at this. You can win and curious I think so too. You know, I think I can't to Anthony Anthony asks them. Would you rather be Kayla or Paris? And care is like. Kayla. Anthony's wrong answer you'd rather give up eighty thousand dollars Kayla didn't win. Notre I'd rather be Paris. Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what I thought. You would say. And Paris did nothing according to Anthony Paris did nothing. So look you've got a great chance CARA. Here's the comparison was up against Kayla. Everyone hated killer. There's not a person that everybody hates in this house. And and then he says it's not about it's not about hating. It's not by everybody hating them. It's about that. She played it's hard game. So you know, you've played smart Kira? Played smart. Like, yeah. I feel like I have been playing the game. And I think that lately I have been able to keep my mouth shut and play smarter. And all of this stuff. I think really trying to sell their game to Anthony in the event that they are in the final two Anthony might be able to help them out in the jury house that's kind of going on here. And also there's a little bit of them playing each other to some extent where cure, obviously knows that Anthony is manipulative, but. They do feel close to him. And they want to continue to make him feel like he's manipulating them. And he is trying to peel them away from Dane because that's important for his game. And so they're both kind of successful here. I think cure says to Anthony that they feel close to Anthony on a personal level. They know that Adam is close to them on a game level. But personally, they feel closer to Anthony. And they promise Anthony that he will not go up if they win the next H h Anthony likes that likes that they talk more about some of the other players in. Why Kira is is more respectable than them? Damien hasn't done anything. They don't respect Damian's game. Esti hasn't done anything then on back her game. Anthony claims that he has no deals beyond the final five. They've got the top five no deals beyond that cures. Like, what's you don't have a three thing with Adam? And Dane because like, no, really. Come on come on. He's really no deal. Look, I I guarantee I guarantee that you have been approached with a final three deal. And I'm I guarantee that you said, yes. Because of course, why wouldn't you say, and that's totally. That's really fun. It does that you don't have to doesn't mean you have to be loyal to it. I'm sure that you have some sort of final three deal going on. But, but that's, but that's okay. And and cures like not. Well, I mean. Subtext here is that Anthony knows the Dane approached Kira with the final three. So he is alluding to this in a way that implies that he might know about it and implies that cured. Does not have to be loyal to that funnel through that. There are other options and this works very well. So we're very well. He does this pretty pretty effectively here cure is going to go and talk to the cameras after this and wonder why Anthony seemed to be talking like he knew about the final three between Adam Dane themselves. Some thinking. Get some thinking about other options Dane is a dangerous player. Maybe they don't need to go to the final three with Dane, maybe they can go to the final three with some other players. Maybe like Anthony who knows? They think daynuss just he's so dangerous. They know he's been throwing competitions. He can win these competitions. They know that he's very good socially. And that he'll probably win a jury vote. They've talked earlier that morning about how Adam was a better person to take to the final two. And so. They think they think they need to take out of the game the day needs to go that if it's a triple that they would put up Damian Dane, and Mark and take Damian. And Dane, I think that's a mistake that should take out marking Dane. But you know, whatever, but Damien and Dane, so if given the opportunity I think they might try to take a shot at Dane, but they probably go for Damien. I, unfortunately, it's still probably stick to the five. I I think they are still talking about Dane talking about Damian as the first target. But then Dane is actually not protected by this final three that he made with Kira. Any longer cure is all on board. The let's take out train. That and yes, they are still talking about the triple, unfortunately. Mark is still talking about a trip. It's going to be a triple guys triple a double in an instant like. You know? So curious talking about their find their ideal final three at this point is themselves at him. Anthony or Mark probably Anthony. They need they they need Adam there, but but they do not need Dane. And as Nikki points out in the chat. This is bad news bears Dame. Oh boy. He was relying on cures vote and cures protection in the final six and final five. Not as much in the final five. But definitely the file six. And. Good. It's not good this. This does leave the door open that if Mark wins the next H h and decides to betray the five and and target Dane that cure could be a vote against Dane, potentially. Even if he's not up against Adam the problem is we don't know if Mark would know to do that. So basically how we were looking at this before is that Dane was completely safe because mostly completely safe because Mark would have to win the next h and then he'd have to decide to target Dane or Adam. And then he would have to. Put him up on the block next to Adam Dane, and Adam on the block, then Anthony would have to win the veto because Damian would use it cure would win it and use it Adam would win it and use it Dane would win it and use it. And then if Kierra or Damian we're up against either Dane or atom, they would go home. But now, it seems like potentially potentially if Kira one it's or was off the block when Dane was up against Damian. There's a chance that cure could go along with the plan to Vic Dane this chance chance. However. I personally believe that they would still victim. Ian, I think that they would not go against atom in that particular vote. Even though there's a shot there with Dane, I don't think they would take it. I think that their plan is to victims. I anyway, I think that they want to go to the five I and they have options at that point moving forward. And so I don't think that they would take that shot, especially if it seems like Mark is turning on both Dane, and Adam I think that they stick with Adam they keep Dana around. They know that Dane and Mark will be fighting it out at that point. And that's great for them. So I don't think this means a whole lot for Dane in the double vision. I do think he's still safe. But it is something to think about moving forward. It's not great. If KIRO wins the H wage at five Dane is no longer protected. Anthony has supplanted him. You can't you can't give Anthony any rope. He'll use it to hang ya. It's not good. Not good. Now. We're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. So Adam is gonna talk to Dane about bringing Dame. In for the s devote again. This is more. You know, they're talking about this a lot. They. You know, they're figuring out their plan for for bringing Damian what they're going to tell him how they're gonna vote how they're going to keep him in the loop moving forward all of that stuff there. And they also talk about like these people in this house. So trusting? Understand. Why are they trust us makes no sense? This Damian guy. So passive. He was nothing to talk about unless we go talk to him. Six we've seen all these seasons. He's seen no seasons. That's the problem. Talk about that they go to Kira and they talked to them about. Hey, look. So we're going to approach Damian to get his vote, and we're gonna tell Damien that you are the target moving forward. You're not really the target. But we're going to tell him. You are just you know. So you don't like here and freak out. Are you? Okay. With that. That's fine. So. Adam Dane and Damien then have a conversation. They float this idea of a potential guys thing. Hey, what if the ghost together? Maybe what do you think about that Damian and Damian is kind of just like? No problem is I just don't trust. Mark. Kind of I've talked to Mark about a guys thing before. And he doesn't really want to do a guys thing. So. I don't know. Maybe. So the idea has been floated and they have more plans to talk to Damien today. And tried to to flip them over as I said on the round table last night. I do think Damien will eventually come around. There's not really much point to sticking and being vote to keep ST. If he knows that Adam is going to break the tide to Victor. Anyway, he's not really like Dane in the sense that I think he feels like he needs to vote to keep SDN order to retain her jury vote. I think that. I think that he's probably going to flip around if that's what he feels. He needs to do. So that's what that's what I'm thinking there. And that's really most of what happened yesterday in the house. I really the the major thing that happened was Anthony has. Wiggled his way back in with Kierra and curious doesn't trust Anthony. But but he has he has his torn them away from Dane and taken that piece away from Dane, so these pieces are still being moved around and interesting ways. And I literally was just saying last night you cannot count Anthony out of the game. Quite yet. He's still has a lot of outs here. So. Interesting interesting to see what happens here. So. So by ST asks chat. Yes. Yes. SD still looking like she is going to be heading out of the game. When you going to do she hasn't campaigned at all she still thinks she's staying she really does. Mondo wants know how has Adam been doing? There was talk about some injury. Yeah. He hurt his toe during the party, but I haven't I haven't seen it. I don't think it's bad. I think he is. He's totally fine. I don't see it really impacting his performance unless there's like. Like. Tow competition where you have to stand on your toes. I don't know. I think he's fine. I I don't think it will matter much is not like there's a ton of running that needs to happen in most competitions even the running back and forth. One mike. I think he'll be fine. So. I'm personally not not too concerned. Yeah. That's that's what's happening. So we got for you. So makes you tune into Morrow at eleven AM eastern where I will update you on everything that happened today on the big brother candidates seven live feeds and then tomorrow night, we will be live to recap the double eviction of big for the candidates, very exciting. That'll vixen lots of things could happen by lots of things. I mean like two or three, but still could be fun. We'll have on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, find me on twitch, twitch dot TV slash town Armstrong and thank you for joining me. Cenex time.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 7 | Sunday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 7 | Sunday Morning Update Podcast

"Doc. Rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. That he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feed update for April seventh. I'm return Armstrong. And with me today. Skirts tonight doing Kirsten, I feel like Anthony's trying to spite me personally with his activities. And that's how I'm doing. When when will Kirsten get to talk poorly about Anthony's game. Like why like I feel like every we can't trajectory of like very strong a lot of control, and then it kind of slips a little bit and on Wednesday. He decides if he wants a back or not and that's the story of the season. Basically, we are here to talk about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother candidates seven alive feeds it was day thirty six in the house, and he certainly Anthony maintains quite a bit of control. I you know, you didn't have to go and do the the Friday update or this Saturday update both of which I think we're even more Anthony heavy. So I think you were let off the hook a little bit on this one as true this week is not quite to the same extent as previous Bill as previous weeks. I can't wait till next week when I'm not here. And he apparently he's probably blow his game next day. And it's gonna be great. I won't talk about it morally what happens is the first couple of days the HOA just trying to figure out what they're going to do. And then. Know it's Saturday when Anthony decides to change everything to his liking. But this week he got to decide what to do because he's h wage, right? Anthony's show eight just going great for him. Something along those lines. Cory Cory is the age and Dane and SD are on the block today is going to be veto competition. So we're gonna see how that plays out here. Sam and Adam had a brief spat in the morning. Sam woke up feeling paranoid feeling like something's wrong. Something is wrong. But Adams like nothing's wrong. Don't stop stop being paranoid. Negate you get stop acting like this cure. Also chime to stop stops him. You're gonna mess stuff up. And like no like already messed up and Sam just has a good idea of what's going. Maybe not a good idea. Believe chance the feeling of like something is wrong. I want to go with this and maybe try to fix it. And Adam Keira, they're like, no, you're gonna make things go wrong. If you try to like, you're just paranoid. It's fine. It's a whole thing. Not. It's all fine. Veto players were picked and along with Dane and SD Sam Kira and Mark will be competing. So Sam has the opportunity to save herself this week because she still is the back door plan as she is paranoid about. And now she can compete. You can win this veto and save herself in essentially force, Dane, SD to remain on the block and probably send as de home. But it would still be a nail biter for Dane a little bit. And so, you know, things things look it up. Yeah. And you know, what it's not the worst dry feel like Sam could easily be it, you know, as he Kira and possibly Mark in most fetal competitions Danes. Really the only one we've never seen in a veto yet. Jess Dane, apparently got house goes choice and chose Kira for. I think two reasons one the one that people immediately thought was curious exa competitions. It's going to be easier to be. But also, we'll find out later he remembers week two when he was h h and care was pleading for their life and cure a promised him that if they ever won the veto, and he was on the block that they would use it on him. So I think that is another part of why he chose them for the veto. Yes. And idealism definitely still on the table. Nothing. Strange especially since he he definitely didn't tell them that he wasn't going to put them up and put them up the dairy next week to deal is good as y'all man's truck. So Kira is going to talk with Anthony cure was also freaking out a little bit in the morning. They kind of just had some some paranoia going on some some worries and so they are increasingly just going to Anthony with all of this even like, they're not even going to Sam anymore. It's really just their bond with Anthony has been growing and growing and really over. The course of the day even gets stronger, they're really worried about Dane staying. But if stains tastes in the south of there in trouble, and they're I think they're also feeling a little bit like disrespected they got picked so that they wouldn't win. And that makes them feel sad. Yes. So cure brings up that they're the one that said something about the quarterback door plan. And since Friday was the day of we're going to talk about this back door plan on along. It's a little bit. If he to the one who brought that up, and there's also a conversational bit later when they are laughing at me like I'm a joke, and it's not okay. That was like chosen from houses toys for this reason. Like, they're not laughing at you. This is in your head. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony, really just becoming curious confidante, and and really supporter emotional supporter. In many ways and Anthony also has some work to do with with Mark. He tells Mark that with Mark in the veto competition that you need to gun for this Mark gun for this veto win it, and if you win we need Sam up that's the plan where it's going to be great markets. Like, okay. I got this mobile. I he's kind of like he doesn't really want to win that badly. Anthony's like are you really not gonna win to save? Sam people are looking down on you. You have to prove yourself. Mark still still being kind of shady about the the pretty boys. Like, maybe he doesn't want this plan to go through or maybe maybe it goes through. But maybe if he does win who knows what happens if Markman Speedo, maybe he doesn't use it. Maybe I don't know. Maybe doesn't use it and takes its opportunities. Take out of the house knows. Well, I feel like this is one of those scenarios where we're like, oh, my God is going to happen. It's not gonna happen. Lawyer explication smart, Kaylynn competitions. So you know, he came in. And he knew that he wouldn't be able to be physical because of shoulder, and it turns out he doesn't have the mental. But he has his character. His character. Look audience. It's my intention that matters intended to turn on the pretty fun. Oh, not intention. Dane is going to have a conversation with Kira? And he is going to bring up that deal that he made in week two. And he says, hey, we made that deal. So if you win the Speedo you're gonna use it on me, right and cures like. I don't say, no. But can't say, yeah. All consider it. Yeah. Maybe I can't promise anything endangers like, but we made a deal. Hey, you also told me that you weren't going to put me up again. And you did. So I don't know I feel like there is nothing more damaging to someone than pointing out their own hypocrisies. Yes. And so good. I was gonna say then cure has possibly the most iconic camera chat of all time when she says I wrote down the direct quote, they they say Canada. Please pray for me. And wish me luck. Cross your fingers that there isn't any balance beams this time, I just need some kind of puzzle or what can they not do something there choirs all of my teeth because he all of his teeth. And they killed me. I was dying. The only thing that would have been better if they had just stopped at one contain not do something that requires all of my because you know, explaining the joke sometimes are. Keira? We know he does not have all of his teeth. We have is. They also they also said that Dane is delusional. If he thinks that they would ever stick to deal. Deign after he leaves this conversation is pissed. Very mad Dame spend so much of the rest of the day talking about how curious an effing liar, and so horrible applying opposite worse than you could do in the big brother house cure, literally in one conversation went from Danes final five plan to we need to get them out next week. It doesn't. It doesn't matter that they can't win a competition. They've been studying their days, they study all the time. Must go. How dare they? I saw her my. Oh, no. I broke the tie for them. Yeah. It's just a lot Dane is absolutely living. Part of this is Damien doing a decent job here. Dane, Dane goes to Damien after this conversation. He wants to know if I don't win veto. Since me nasty. Vote damian. Totally good. I got you. I was I want to ask Damian. Right. So then you know that that is. Damian is in good with Dane, but unfortunately, for Damian also losing losing traction with Anthony and Corey as we'll talk about as well, of course day. Here goes to Anthony. Again, and talks more about their anxiety with this whole thing with Dane and just the house in general and talks about that conversation that they had Dane where all had this promise. And Anthony really just like I is trying to be like, well if you used on day, and that wouldn't be the worst thing. No never do that. That's not what I was talking about more in general about using things in the house. But, but he also gives them like a genuine pep talk and says, you know, like they're talking about their there'd BPD and like their anxiety. And he's like, look, you have more strength inside of you. The ninety percent of the people in this house. And if you need an outlet, you can always come to me in the middle of the night early in the morning whenever you need to. I'm here for you. And like, this is this is what's really bonding cured to Anthony like he is truly a source of strength for them. Like, he is there rock in the house at this point anytime. They feel uncomfortable anxious worried. Sad annoyed. They go to Anthony. He helps calm them down and makes them feel better. And that's so huge in a house like this. And I feel like Anthony has seen over the past few weeks. How cure is very emotional needs someone to be their support and how they got kind of clingy. But they they need that support. And so and. Emme being someone that KIRO wouldn't be romantically interested in is the perfect person to actually take this role because good to be the emotional support. But then it's not gonna turn to that lake too much clingy. All the time rain. And so yeah, it works. And this is what Anthony is good at like this. This is the sort of thing he he can make you feel good about yourself because he's he's so Tony Robbins. For the record. I don't even I kind of recognized the name just taking your word on this. I I can imagine the the type of person this person. Oh my God. Into like, very very famous for these types of like, entrepreneurship motivational type things a lot of people in like we'll go to like a tiny Robbins talk. Oh my God. Off line. But anyways, his main thing is about like just like making yourself and like doing better, and he literally put your shoes outside your bed. Get a five AM and leave your house for an hour before you anything more productive days like stuff like I'm picturing just like kind of like slimy sell person. Yeah. But he comes across slightly less limi- than a lot of people. Which is why he does well is liming. Comes across. Okay. Good to know. That's that's our educational out live. The. Yeah. Anything else we we talk about later? So so Adam is going to go to Dane, Adam is concerned that you know. Hey, if the Beatles used could I go up at Sam go up, and it's like, nah, don't worry about that. I need to come up block because what needs to happen because I'm worried that I am gonna voted out. And this is also he he talks to Adam about I'm having second thoughts about this whole Kira? Final five thing. Not happy not happy there. Aligarh? I don't care if they can't win competitions. It's not like straight up says, you know, for sure Corey would not about Dr Adam. I don't think she would do it to Sam I'm gonna push for care after that conversation this morning. They lied to me like they can't trust. I'm gonna get them out. Yes. It's bad news bad news bears. Now, we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. Mark is going to talk with Corey he really wants to work on his relationship with Corey. So he talked with her bit asks if she wants him to gun for the veto. I think he's trying to probe for if she's willing to tell him about this backdoor. Now, the anthonys told him about it. She does not tell them. She does say she wants him to win the veto. He asked to use it and she's not necessarily win it. We'll figure some stuff out. She speaks. So it's so funny. She's like, yeah. Of course, you should gun for the veto. It's always good to have a win under your health. Helping anything. Lesion is. So it's so funny like where people will go all it takes is like one or two people to pump you up in a certain direction and give you the social confirmation that you're doing the right thing and you'll just go off in all kinds of weird directions. Where like Corey thinks that she's doing this amazing job. Because like her only fact checker is Anthony. And so Anthony is creating a world where she is manipulating these people in hiding things from them, even though they already know. But she thinks she's doing such a great job, and that she's you know, she solving things and she's detecting truths. And and people are also backing up what like Anthony's, the one fact checker. And then also other people are supporting Anthony so in this like social bubble this all becomes like truth, and she's like the real like manipulative detective in her own world. And it's it's crazy. They've done. Yeah. It's it's a lot. But Anthony has so much control. And it's just like you were talking about yesterday. Anthony is the only one who put in the effort to build a relationship with Corey when she came into the house like nobody else took the time or effort to really get to know her to talk to her except for obviously Damian who has a really great personal relationship with our Jamie doesn't know enough to do anything with his relationships and with every week passes. It seems like he's losing someone who would work with him. So even if he does say you're out what to do with any of this. He's going to have the people anymore. So. Damien doesn't have the power to protect her to to do anything to help her in the game. So. As as Damian is. He doesn't do much for her in the game. Well, exactly what's every week that passes as he's losing people that could have been a number on his side to actually mobilize. He loses any power that. He could. Yes, I will also say like I'll I see a lot of people like Damian's not even playing the game. They means playing the game. Let's speak clear. What they mean is doing his best. The problem is sucks at the game. He's great socially for the most part. He's he's great one on one. He's he's not great at getting lots of friends, but the people that he talks to he can make them feel good about him. That's his biggest strength, but strategically he just he doesn't know where to go. If he ever got power something could happen. He would play this game. It's not the it's not like he's just sitting around doing nothing. Content to just be safe. He wants to play. He wants to get in there. He he's finding it difficult to find the places to go because he doesn't have the game well enough, well and the power has gone. On every single week almost two people that he can't really work. So yeah. And he's ever really had an opportunity to even pick up the game. Exactly. And Corey is the first HOA that he really feels like he's got a good in with that. He can like all right? We're gonna make a move. And he feels very good about this move to go after Sam, Adam. That's what he's always wanted to do. And so it's I think he's feeling good right now. And this is probably the pride before the fall because it's not looking not looking good for Daming. But but I just want. He is playing the game. He's playing it very poorly as I was very clear distinction. I also don't even know that I would say he's playing poorly like his social game is very strong and big brother at its core is a social game. The social game is the most important part. And he's good at the most important part. But he's just not in with the people who are empowered. Like, I think if things had been different and like KiKi head one in h h like early on like, maybe he. Would have had more influence, and maybe something would have happened. But it's just hasn't gopher him. Like, I don't think he's necessarily that bad. He's great. He's not like the worst. I was this for a butterfly effect. If the audience doesn't vote Damian to go into the secret room at the start of the game. He's not in the last group to go into the house if he's not in the last group to go into the house. He's one of the earlier groups and Adam approaching him for the pretty boys alliance. He becomes a part of the pretty boys alliance and is probably one of the best players in the game. Honestly, I feel like I'm not scenario hue very strong winter equity. Yeah. Because he is very very strong socially. Yeah. That's so much, right? All right. So so we get Mark Mark is talking to Corey. And Corey tells does not tell him anything then Anthony is gonna talk to Corey. And this is when Anthony does some more work against Damian with Cory Cory tells Anthony now that you've pointed out I've been watching I've been noticing Damian ST they're hanging out a lot lately because remember the day before and he was really planting those seeds about Damian SD how they're so close they tell each other everything. And so now now that it's been pointed out Corey sees it everywhere because that's how it works. Right. So when I also feel like this is an example of how Corey really tries to take on Anthony's communication style in this game. And so when you come to Anthony with something he goes. Yeah. I know I've seen that. I've noticed that Anthony is bringing this up again increase. I know I've seen that. And so yeah, Corey points the hugged right after the veto players pick. They were hugging. I was like home Anthony so right about this. Damian is dropping on my list. And it's just the obsolete. Worst. So the feeds go down for the veto. And when they come back up we have a new veto winner. It's Dane he's one hundred percent of the Beatles. He's playing just like out of. And so it sounds like the veto was one of those ones where they've to run back and forth and push the ball down the ramp. So not surprised at all that Dane would win this competition. Like shortly before Corey said that she's praying for competition. That's built for Dane. And I feel like this is pretty close to that. Frederick sundergaard on Twitter. His me. Comp stats tweet and. So this is straight from that. But also, you know in my head Adam has won four out of seven competitions. He's competed in and in that h that he just lost. He apparently could have won it. But decided to give it to Corey Dane has now won three out of six competitions that he's played in and cory's h when was the first competition all season long where both Adam and Dane were competing and both lost any other competition this season where they were both competing at least one of them one. And again, Adam kind of gave this one to Corey according to some people in the house, so they just continued to dominate the competitions this season. And I think is definitely a part of why this season is going the way this. Yeah. Well, exactly because if they were dominant socially, but they win the competitions. It wouldn't be like this. It would be probably similar. They would still have a lot of control over the people winning. But it wouldn't be to this extent. Because when they have the majority of. Social capital, and the majority of the competition wins. What is anyone else supposed to even really deal you have to try and break it up? Saw about worked out last week. When cure cracks the guys lions and with Sam likely on her way out the door this week that will leave the only people to have won any competitions in the house has Dane Adam Corey and I went on on Corey next week. What? Yeah, it's been where people when h h and then they don't do what they should be doing. And then they go home of the story of the season literally people with zero and an atom who when competitions. Don't go home people as hero competition wins the season Antony Damian SD Kira, and Mark all have one zero competitions. Adam four Dane three Korean Sam both have to. Records broken the season. Do you think? Honestly, I think that we absolutely would have if the was competing in veto, but that is definitely going to be a hindrance to the potential records. But honestly could still happen. Even when we we still night get some broken rocker. Oh my God. I don't like. Look big, whether Canada competitions very very good. Maybe it's time to reconsider. A little more random competitions is what I'm saying. Trevor I love your competitions your genius. Can we just have where they liked to shuffleboard just once just one -joyed? I have a lot of faith in Trevor and his competition. Making ability is I I'm sure that he can make some like really cool versions of crapshoot competitions. He absolutely can he did a season of big brother US competitions. So we know we can. Literally is a genius comedic Jeannette genius and competition genius. There you go. There you go. So Mark after the veto was won. By Dane does talk to the cameras briefly. He's very pleased that another person is going to be leaving the house. That's not him. And he also says my time is coming soon two weeks maybe next week. Not sure. He's ready to make this move. Just stinks to win. We've heard this before Mark. Yeah. We heard live four. Here's the thing. So many people like get the I get the pessimism about like will it happen because he will will he wouldn't competition. But so many people are like saying, oh, he's lying. He's pretending. He's willing to make them. I don't get that. Like, why are you? So sure about that. Like, what is his motivation to lie to the cameras and the DR about making a move like it's not like he people. Oh, he knows. He's a fan of the show. He knows that the pretty boys are disliked. So he's trying to pretend that he's not actually with them. And then he like he's trying to he's trying to trick us into liking him. We're not going to be tricked. Mark thinks the pretty boys are legendary. He does not follow that line of thinking at all. He's talking about how great they are. And the dire. You're all the time. He's not thinking that he's secretly tricking you into liking him by going against the pretty boys. No, he's saying this because I think he genuinely does want to go against them. He just hasn't as chance yet. And so like, I just think it's silly. When people are so sure that like people are lying to them with no motivation. I don't think that's impossible. But I'm not like convinced it, right? I mean, obviously, it's theoretically possible. But but people were just like you believe Mark, you're such an idiot. The the problem is Mark is not great socially even with Canada. So we don't really know. Very true where we're having our dialogue with market, and it's like where and he's Mark. And Mark you're greeted this was supposed to be a bomb. Mark actually, apparently was a pretty close second in this competition that he actually had the lead at one point in the veto competition. So he did actually come kind of close to winning this who knows what would have happened. I don't know if he would have taken a shot at the at one this Beato or I think that was part of why he was so excited. He was like all right. I came close in this one. I'm not going home this week. I'm going to have some chances to to make this shot in the coming weeks. I think another part of this too. Is that I think that's what he's two weeks from now maybe next week. He's not sure because he's trying to look forward to the triple a vixen, which is usually a question competition for the which would be which would suit his his abilities. And then he can foam take out to pretty in one. Go. And this is why I feel like having the triple of last season was such a huge mistake because they plan for for so long. And now I feel like Mark is planning for it. And so many people are planning for it. And if it doesn't come than it doesn't come. But I feel like that's another one of the reasons why people are more hesitant to take a shot at the big guns because it's much easier. Just wait till the triple fiction guns always the triple victory. That's just how it works. So we gotta wait hold on. Well with the numbers this season. They can't do a triple mostly due a buyback. Right, right. So. Oh. Like double. No. I think I think there's a decent chance. We don't get a triple fiction this season, which is good. But I think that having one last season having to and row really ruined this season in the sense that like they really expected it, and they really need to stop having people expect a triple. Well. And I think that production recognizes that right? Like, they plan out the course of the season, months and months and months in advance. Right. So they were always having the triple Asher. And then I think they saw while a lot of the strategy really halts when it's coming up to the triple. Everybody's just planning for it. It gets a little bit boring. So then when they were planning this season, they're like, let's not do it. Because then maybe they'll expect it but then for following seasons. They will know they're gonna have one or not they need to take like at least a couple seasons off. Because when when people it's just such a massive part of the game. And it's so dangerous like anybody could leave that you have to like, that's that's always the line. Like, oh, they're not. Crude they should have planned for it. Well, this is what planning for it looks like so, you know. You know, let's not have them plan for. I still think like if they want to send three people home one night, whatever. But like the victims are not live. It will be so much cooler if they did it like an H veto of an H veto actions. I would be so much more interesting. But I don't think that a little honestly even be fully take out the veto. And I'm fine just to h wages. Just don't person power to to people in one go. It's too much. That's that's what really kills it. But obviously to be doing. While his tearing advocating for to instant actions one. What? Honestly, I think it's better than than the triple would be incentive. Installations, are so depressed. There's so bad. Yeah. That's true though. Because at that point in the game, it's just it's it's it's so easy to just put up somebody that old never go home, and it would probably be boring. So I think you need those in there. I take it back. Guild. Garrett's talking crazy. Anyway, Mark he wants to make this move in the next couple weeks. So I think I think I think he does Adam Sam our little worried Adam Adams regretting dropping from that h competition giving it to Corey was like why do that? It was like, yeah. When you did it at my like, my heart drops. But then I was because I knew that she was about to fall, and I knew you could have one, but I feel good with court. I felt good with Corey. So I thought it was the right move. But now we're supposed to feel safe and we not feel safe. Yeah. Why did you do that? How I really like we need to figure that out the episode's tonight. So I guess we will. But like, I don't know why Adam this is probably the biggest mistake and the game for Adam trop here one hundred percent, and then they're like trying to rationalize and find a way to feel. Okay. And sounds like well, you know, Cari wants to split a beer with you like, that's probably good. I'm willing to bet. The part of the reason Adam dropped was like what if next week is the triple because they've been so worried about it. And they've been talking about like they need to throw certain h is because they because the dreaded H before the triple is the worst position the game. Screw Johnny it screwed. Kevin like, you winning the before the triple is the worst possible thing you can do. So you have to start throwing competitions before the triple in case the triplets coming. So that was definitely in his head. She's so annoying. I don't know at the same time. It's like I don't want them to win every competition. Like, well, then Adam didn't win this happen. So I don't know what I want. I'm just so I'm over it. All right. Well Sam and Corey talk a bit after Sam Hanna conversation with Adam salmon's wondering what Cory is going to do. Now. She's hoping that you know, like Mark will go up, and they can send STO or even like Kirkuk go up, and they could send us GIO. So basically hoping that upon goes up Correy says not really sure I'm going to do yet. Don't want to do the pond thing though, I wanna find somebody that threatens my game and put them up. This should be like major alarm bells ringing, Defcon, whatever number is the worst. Like, if if Corey doesn't wanna put up upon that leaves literally nobody else except I Sam or Adam and Sam should immediately see that. But I don't think she really does. She doesn't feel good about this conversation. But I don't think he realizes just how bad it was. No, she really doesn't. And then she leaves and cory's like this is going to be insane craziest does her Mony. Yes. Sorry. One thing. I forgot to bring up when we were talking about the salmon Adam competition is Sam literally says well daynuss here probably not going to try to figure out the back door Corey plan too much unless she's looking for reasons up, and it's like. No, the horror movie is still happening. Yes. So in this after Sam leaves this conversation, Cory Cory is talking about like, I can you believe her? She just used my own words to try and manipulate me. She like she used the same phrase. I can't remember what it was something about using your gut or like, I don't know. But like, and like this is like Corey is feeling very proud of myself for seeing through SAM's manipulation because Sam is trying to manipulate her Sam is lying to her. And she's seeing through that. But it's just like, and so some people are I think forgetting that Sam is lying to her. And so they're like, oh Sam Corey what a what a fool you are for thinking this. She's correct when she is figuring that Sam lying tour and trying to manipulate her. It's just that. She's then failing to see it. When Anthony does it in one day does it. And that's what's saying because she's so proud of herself for seeing this one like I got I got Sam she she doesn't realizes that. Literally, everyone is lying to her except for Davies. And it's literally. Corey probably wouldn't even have seen Sam line to her. If Anthony Dane hot and planted the seeds, right? So it's not not good for you for recognizing the lie because you probably wouldn't have otherwise. Yes. And it's definitely like a lot of a lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are very upset with Corey. It's not a great look how how proud of herself. She is. Although I have seen. I've seen people get going a little too far corey's still a very nice woman. Deserve to be like totally like look she's getting played in the game. What are you going to do? She's not a terrible person because of it. No corey's, a nice woman. And that's it. Nice. That's fine. Wrong with it. It's frustrating to watch her. Get completely snowed by the dominant. Alliance. The alliance dominant for a reason, and we should have expected. The knicks. Nick sexless. I don't know what you seen one season of the show. Dimitri told her not to question Anthony, like what do you want from one? What do you expect? She is a very nice person. Yes. The fact that she thinks that she and Anthony could be the next I into trays. Does she think she doesn't even know who they are? She never watched their season. My god. Just the fact that she would ever be like. Oh, yeah. Where like I do. Stop. You're not hers the rawal. When he competitions. Dimitri in this situation. And Anthony's IKEA, okay? Sure. The you need to know why you need to gas people other show. I just can't I just can't handle this which which is the ones he's she's seen. Do we know it was last season? And I don't I don't know if she even finished it. Oh, no. I can't I just can't handle it. I can't handle watching season after season of people who just don't even know the basic strategy going in and being like, I'm the greatest person of all time. This is the greatest lines of all time is most iconic lines of all time joint even know anything conic is and I'm very frustrated. And also by the fact that the keep saying fustrated, which is possibly like my most annoying thing in the world. Also, I'm seeing someone in the Chad saying that she'd know me, no, she would not know me. Nobody knows who I am. And the better that way. She would not. I. Okay. I'm sure we'd get along. She's very nice. I just can't handle any of these people most none of they don't know anything and annoying kills me like. Dead. I just can't lose any more. Taking the week. Well, and he's gonna talk to cure again, kind of part three of their coming together. Bonding more. Cures wondering if Corey even likes them and his guests people like you, stop stop. Not emotional reassurance. Like, yes. Quarry likes you. It's okay. They they wonder what they should do with Dane now the data's won the veto. They know that Dan is coming after them. What should they be doing damage control? And he says it's not up to you. You do nothing. Nothing nothing which fair advice. Anthony's probably gonna be a lot more effective at protecting them would be protecting themselves. So lily. They wonder what Cory is going to do with with the replacement and says, she's very smart. She hasn't. She hasn't told me anything. I I think she wants to talk to everyone figure things out. If do some detective and figure out what's been going on. And so curious wondering if they should be doing something like should I be trying to expose Dane more? Make sure that she knows certain things in Slidell chill. You don't put your name out there. You don't want people next week to be like oh curious this last week. And that's a reason to target you sly low everything will be fine. You're going to be okay. And so Anthony really just trying to again, this is this is there's two sides of this. Right one. Is that Anthony genuinely wants to protect care because is an ally for him and he wants to bring them as far as he can in the game. And the second is that in protecting them with this good advice. It also happens to further isolate them from other people and. And stop them from doing anything to hinder the plan this week, which is to take him out. Yes. And this is just exactly what Anthony wants. So last week. They got rid of one of Danes parachute. Aligns members weakening as getting rid of atoms. Number one weakening atom and Anthony is now God Corey number one has the rest of the the pretty boys right now feeling very good about Corey. And everything's gonna be okay. And now pulled in curate to be another parachute. Aligns on Brennan. It's really really affected because he put in all that time and effort with Corey has been putting an effort with care the whole time. But there's no really doubled down on that. And now is in the best position because they like he has the most people and his Damian from Corey. And is also working on separating certain members of the pretty boys from each other really starting to put his endgame plans into place here this week. Anthony is. He's the only one really looking ahead. Yes. Truly looking head other people are planning. But like not to this extent. He is really setting himself up. Well, yes, everyone else is really focused on the here. Now Adams Folkestone keeping them safe daynuss focus on getting out and Mark is focused. I think on portraying pretty voice. While making them think that he's totally armless. And then everyone else is like totally lost in their own world. So. Cure apologize again to the need for freaking out earlier. They were they had kind of an episode in the shower, they need to do some breathing exercise and the talks to them about his he has a friend who has as well. And so he he's really like good at helping to calm them down and talking about it. And it's weird because there's really good conversations like about like, mental health and helping people like with things and all of that. And it's caked with like, also like, lots of manipulating. Like because you wanna feel good about the conversation. Anthony is really there for CARA is really helping them out. Because I can't imagine what the 'isolation would be like with BBDO that's so much to be dealing with. And I just really ocare. He's going to have the support that they need once a leave that environment because that's gonna be rough. It's gonna be really really hard. And but then it doesn't time you're like, okay. His Anthony using this as a tool for manipulation because that feels so gross. So disgusting. I think I think it's genuine and the like from Anthony. And I think that he's also then using the relationship that builds to influence here for them. And that he's doing which it makes me feel really gross. Yeah. Yeah. Just gross. Yeah. So Dane is going to talk to Anthony as well. They're very proud of their play this week Dane says this has got to be one of the most well executed plans and big brother Canada history to convince Corey to do this and like on it because definitely no I Kana plans have worked out in the past. Well Dame knows the show. But the problem is I think from from Dan's point of view is that he was not watched the feeds. And so when I was thinking about like best, execute plans big brother Canada history. Like more than half of them were not even on the episodes. So I was like oh actually from Danes perspective. This might be fair. Portrayed on the show. I'm pretty sure this one's probably not gonna be on the show either. So. Oh god. And then in this. They're talking about how. They think that Sam is going to try to sewer cure. A and I had never heard the term until alley set it last year. So it's a real a real term. I think the Dane might have picked it up from last season. But because I don't know. I never heard of before either. But also never heard of chirp chirping. As. Prior to this season. So. Well, it's twenty nineteen. What is that? Is that is that a thing outside of Canada? Even I casually you. I'm from Canada. All right. How to tell you it's outside of Canada. I don't know. Damon talks about how he has a speech plan for the veto ceremony that that he's going to really he's going to. Corey up for the alleyoop, slam it home and like. It's gonna be a good idea. This is what I call being two. Steps ahead. Corey can say this. I call being the Reese. Yeah. Especially like the talk. He's talking about this Anthony, go even harder. And Dane is like, no, no, this is this is Corey is thing I want to let her do the the big speech. I'm just gonna do the little setup. And then Adam comes in. And they're like, yeah. We're not sure what's going to happen. I don't know. We don't really know. What do I don't think thir- thinking all the way through this? Like, I think there's a way to to make this happen to place most of the blame on Corey and ST and be like, oh, man. I'm put at least it's not us. Right. And if you look at it now that SAM's on the block Sam is a bigger threat than SD. You know? So this was corey's decision. It would expose us to to go against that at this point men. We're sorry atom. We're sorry. You know, we tried you tried. I think there's a way to get through in the atom doesn't really have anywhere else to turn at that point. But. If data's is like doing the alleyoop in veto ceremony. It was the plan all along. We've got you like I feel like Adams going to be real upset. Yeah. Definitely going to be hissed. And I think that Dane is just so caught up in. He has wanted him out since we too, right? That now that it's going to happen. I don't think he's gonna be able to contain excitement. I think he's going to really feel like this is something that he did even though it's really Anthony. I think I'm guessing that they're probably going to try to to use the tactic of like, look, we did this for you, Adam. This was in your best interests. Need to be loyal to the pretty boys. One hundred percent. And you were starting to leave us. I that was going to hurt you. And so we had to get rid of Sam. So that you would do what was right for your game by being with us and will fall for that probably. But again, it's like speech like if Dane speeches so bad, they cut put an idea and Adam said, we'll see. Is it is sort of like really doesn't have anywhere else to turn one. Sam like he's never had bag grade of relationship with Kira? Corey is controlled by Anthony, maybe he can go to Damian. But, but then again, it doesn't have the numbers any our because everyone that he could have had a number has gone home at this point like that's over. It's done. Yeah. So even if he is really mad, which I'm sure he will be there's nowhere for him to go. So Mark is going to talk to Dane Mark asks Dane, if if Sam is going up things as I'm not sure sure I'm pushing for it. But I'm not sure, and this is Anthony has given Marcus information Marcus checking in with Dane gain is not telling Mark things just another another point in the like, Mark, Dane. Feud that only Mark knows about. Yes. And this is I think going to provide a little bit more immunization for marquees when it comes to targeting the pretty boys. If he does get any power. Yes, Dane goes to ST Damon getting a lot of trouble with not telling his allies things he tells us it's going to be Sam we got this. That's been the plan all along. Why don't you tell me? Tell me this the plan all along and the real answer is because if it didn't go through then I didn't want you to be able to use that as a nation against me on the buck together, and you all next to me. When he says, hey, you didn't tell me about the curious saying, I was the person behind the Corey backdoor thing. Remember and. As like, this is way, more important. If just like like, a couples fighting, and they're fighting about one thing and the person's like, yeah. But like you didn't do the dishes last week. Like, you said you like just trying to redirected like a totally different argument where they may be have the high ground. Stop stop saying this. This is a good thing. This is a good thing. It's good for you. You're going to be safe. Good. So, you know. That's. That's what it is. Or? Finally, Mark is going to talk to Anthony. And then later Corey a little bit because Mark really wants to get in with Corey he really Marcus feeling like he wants to get into the Corey Anthony group wants to be a part of that he wants to be part of something. He's looking for Anthony's health. So I don't know again. I don't know how much of this premeditated on Mark's part. If part of this is that Anthony's been drawing closer, and that he's feeling a little more alienated by Dane, so getting in with Anthony good getting a better relationship with Corey is obviously very good for marquee already has a pretty good relationship with Damian. So maybe if he does make a break with the pretty boys he might be able to pull in Damian and Corey I don't know exactly what is planning here. But he's really asking Anthony for advice and help and that's exactly how to handle Anthony if you're trying to handle them, and I don't know if he's trying to him. But we know we've seen we've seen him say that he does this on purpose before. So it might be on time. You can assume that it is on purpose at least the time of forward. Yes. So he's asking Anthony for help and advice like how do I how do I handle? How do I get closer to her? I've been trying to talk to her. I want her to like open up about the plan and all this stuff. And so Anthony does his thing says I'll help help set you up. I'll go to co. I'll say that Mark is great, and you can go to her and be like, hey, I really want to step up and start working for a team. And I really wanna work with you anti moving forward. I know Anthony is a great guy and Anthony can come and be like marks great guy. And then also Markaz like, yeah. Because I come in with when you're talking, and it's like, it's weird engineers like, okay. Next time that happens. I'll I'll push the conversation deeper, and we'll invite you in will be good. So Mark is really trying to to use Anthony to help get him closer to to Corey here. Because Mark means someone right? And it's it's it's too late. Like at this point if you're trying to get the numbers because you need them too late to get them. You have to give them before you need the. Yes. So so that's that's my might come into effect. Another thing that I liked from this that Anthony was like this where you're to do you're gonna go to it. You're gonna say these things and Marcus like did that. And he was like, yeah. Once you can't just say once you can't just go to somebody who wants and then like that's the relationship, but you need to go to her all the time every day keep talking to her. That's how you build a relationship, and it's like so many people in this house need teacher this advice from Anthony literally Mark thinks he just talking to someone one time. Everything's fine. Totally good together. Unbreakable bond is going to be perfect and like. I'm sorry. What? Honestly, Anthony shouldn't be giving. Anyone that advice because with him being really the only one doing it works? Great for. But I mean, I wouldn't bet on Mark social game. Anyway. So I think it's okay in this case. Anything else you want to bring up person? I think we've we've pretty much covered it the only thing I think we didn't really talk about is. When Anthony's kind of questioning Dane, like did you hint Esti the plan? Did you did you into her? And so that kind of shows they Anthony Dane dynamic a little bit. Yes. Because Anthony thinks that Anthony thinks Dane has told us and has has told fame, Ian. But in reality Dane, has told Damien Mark has Damian and Anthony is heavily hinted to Damian as the one person that hasn't told Damien. Find out until the last minute. Yes. But I think then goes to show like where Damian is in the pretty boys. We're like three separate pretty boys have gone to Damian to kind of tell him about this in Anthony has an outright set it. But he's been like we really need to win the veto. Hopefully, we can make some kind of shot. And then it's like, they means like. Hopefully it happens. Anthony, Anthony, like, ST must've told them something. Yeah. Or maybe he doesn't really believe it. I don't know if he's he's never said it to himself. He doesn't talk the cameras, but he's definitely using it to make people think that maybe maybe Anthony set the whole thing up where he's hinting it to Damian to make him feel like there's a plan in place. And then when Damian seems like he knows about it. He's like Esti must've told I don't know. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you look at you know, the players on the board the next big thing is going to be two separate as from gain. That's that's the next move for Anthony. So I think it's either that or or Daming I think that it's going to be s to your next for for Anthony. Because obviously, there's only two people left outside of the pretty boys and and Corey so obviously. He said, and he setting up and. And be hard for them to survive. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens, but Dame's probably want anger at cure could be the saving grace for. For damian. Yeah. It's it's an old Asia, which is going to be very important for what happens next. Yes. In terms of which one of them goes it's like every week. And that this is the most important veto of the season. 'cause they get progressively more important as it goes. Yeah. That's how it works. So. Oh. All right. Well, thank you everyone for joining us today. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong can fund Kirsten Kirsten said what we will be alive tonight. After the episode the Sunday night episode with Bruno to talk about this season of big the candidate seven and what's been going down. And we'll be able to watch that that h competition, and we'll see we'll see how they portray the the most well-executed plan and big brother Canada history and competition took about fifteen minutes. How many minutes of the show? Do you think it's going to be twenty twenty five? I'm thinking twenty. I go twenty two for two minutes. And then tomorrow night, we will be back for the round table. We'll talk about the stock watch the state of the house. We'll talk about the week in big brother Canada on the feeds. It'll be great. And then of course, there's back to recap the vixen will likely see Sam leave at this point. So yes, if you're looking for the exit interview with with KiKi and should be attached to yesterday's live feed update at the end. I don't think it was. It was not then. Let's go. Let's ask about it. So. Yeah. Hopefully, it was there. If it wasn't then we'll we'll figure it out. I listened to it anyways. I'll I'll try I'll try and find out where it is. And then I'll tweet something out on Twitter at Armstrong Darren. All right. That's what we've got for you. Thank you for joining us today. I will see you next time. Everyone.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 3 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 3 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

"Gary Armstrong, big, brother. Yes. All those chatty in sandy. Sees you know, he is the ring Hugh. Juneau? Rob said that he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feed update for April third. It's my birthday. It's my birthday. I'm your host, John Armstrong. And with me today is Bobby. How're you doing Bobbie? Good, man. Happy birthday happy. I can be here on on your special day to others not a lot going on. But you know, at least we can celebrate our own special way by doing the update. Yes, we are here to talk about everything that happened yesterday on the bigger the candidates seven live feeds, and yes, it's it's my twenty ninth or forty seconds or actually maybe something like twenty seven I don't know something birthday. And we're we're going to talk about the feeds yesterday. It was thirty two in the house and bobby's is kind of right here. It is a bit slower on the feeds I think a lot of this has to do with the blood veto. There's still a lot of just kind of speculation and talk about the blood veto, another big thing, actually, two of our favorite things. The blood veto and the triple of I think really going to start to slow. The gameplay down. Just as we saw in big brother Canada's six where there's just a lot of like, okay. When's the ones the triple one is happening? Oh, it's two weeks from now. No, it's three weeks from now. All right. We gotta make sure planning for that. No moves until the triple. You gotta wait until the triple. So I really hope we don't have one this year. So that we don't have as much of this next year because men its own my gosh, it's gotten on my last nerve. And like they're counting down the weeks or saying kids in this stage. So it's gotta be this time and just tired of hearing. Honestly, we might even have one because the time line is not one hundred percent working out right now. So unless something crazy happens, I don't even see there being a triple. So honestly, it's kind of nice but back that this should all backfire on them. And then their plans kind of go with you. But I am so tired of hearing it. It's like, let's talk about the Beatles. Going on right now not three weeks from now. And I can't even blame him because it is such a Hugh. Huge important event in the house, and you do have to plan for it. But it's just like. Very frustrating. Let's just get rid of the triple please just it impacts the game for far too long. Anyway. Yeah. All right. So we started the day yesterday with Dane, and Adam they were talking about how they're going to keep Mark and all of the votes and all of that stuff. Dane does tell Adam. He he says, you know with all this blood veto stuff. I don't don't worry because I've been talking to the Osteen KiKi. I've been telling them that. If you go up on the block that we need to vote to keep you which is a complete lie. He's doing the exact opposite. He's been telling them if Adam goes up we need to take the shot. He's like I'm putting in work for you out them. I'm making sure that they'll vote to keep you if you're up there. They're telling me that they need to take the shot, but I'm telling them. No, we need to keep Adam even if it's Adam versus Mark we need to keep Adam. So really really just a bold bold faced lie here. Oh, yeah. Just a complete light. You should tell him what he wants to hear honestly and weaning for this the kind of come round to Adam. So that Adam gets that information. I will think he needs to talk to certain people or to get out. But if it does there's a chance it could impact this week if not next week, and I'm really hoping this this will stir up something because honestly needed this season. It's been at first it was entertaining. But now it's getting so repetitive. That unjust. We need something to kind of turn on the pretty boys in get a new face in their Orissa new H kinda 'cause this commotion on through the house. Yeah. I mean, we talked about how KiKi should have been doing all kinds of different things. But one of her options was throwing Dane under the bus. That's still an option for her especially with the blood veto in play. If she can be like, hey, Dave. Gene is still going after Sam he's been telling me all the time. He's also been telling us that if Adam goes up on the blog we need to take a shot at him. I don't know what your power is Kira. But. I don't know if you can get Dane on that block. I will vote him out. No matter who is up against. They really wanna take a shot at Dane that could seriously happen right now. Let's only option is to somehow convince them that maybe with the blood ITO or something that they can work him into the plant, and we still don't know what's going on with that. We don't know what here has in her back pocket with this this wis that they're trying to do. But I think that's Kiki's only chance is otherwise issues pretty much honor. Yes. So he also is going to Dane in this conversation's going to talk to Adam. And he's they've been doing this for a while now. But it's it's funny. When I hear it every time Dane talks about like, you know, it's it's just going to be a big resume builder. It's going to be such a big move. If you if say, I took out SD, or I don't know you took out Sam like that would just be so impressive. It's it's like remember when John Neta, right? It would be just like. That I'm just saying because obviously Dane has zero intention of actually taking ST. But if he feels like he can convince Adam to take him that would be wonderful for him. So what the final three like honestly makes no sense random to get rid of her at this point. So he knows that gains not going to get rid of S E heating, tell them whatever he wants to hear. It's not going to happen. And I think this is going to backfire, and I think Adam's going to start getting the picture that you know, how badly Dane once Sam L, I think that's taking priority. And I think it's going to get Adam said that he needs to do something about it. Stop it. So we move on Damion is going to have a conversation with Sam I talked about this a little bit yesterday morning in the update that they were having conversation. They feel really good about each other. They don't need to talk all the time. They have good vibes. Sam does indicate to Damian that she wants KiKi gone Kiki's Aligarh, she's act- sketchy. And I've heard her campaign is really terrible is what Sam says which is. Not only her opinion. But the opinion of basically everyone in the house, this Kiki's campaign is really terrible. I love the tweet that you posted about her going to people. Oh, I think this went really good in the just backfiring in her face, honestly, every single person telling her what she wants to hear. So I think she's going to be absolutely shocked come Thursday when this all backfires interface, but everything she saying each and every person they just it goes in one ear and out the other they they know that she's pretty much loss caused and they don't really trust anything. She says all the work that she put him beforehand. We prior is really coming back to bite to bite her right now. And I think that for her there's really no option she has left unless something with the blood veto twists comes into effect. Yeah. So speaking of Kiki's campaign, she's going to go with SD to talk to Sam and Kira about her campaign, and the the what she plans on talking about and part of the point of going to Sam and cure is that she wants to let Sam, you know. You know? I might I might be. I might be saying that I'm going to target you and Adam to the rest of the house. But just see you know, I will be doing that. I hope that's okay with you. And I hope that like that's not going to upset you. It's obvious. It's not true. But that we need to say that other people just just so you're aware, and Tim brings of agree point. But that doesn't make any sense. Why would she trust that? What would she think her going around and talking to everyone saying that she's coming after Sam why would that be a good plan for Sam? Why would that would just put a target her back going forward? So I think this was a terrible idea. But Qian S D, I think this is going to really show what kind of player they are to the rest of the house, and it's just not gonna work. They've been last week during the double head KiKi one. She probably would have put salmon ADEMA in salmon, Adam know that. So they know that this is intruding know that she's going after them. So it's just it's not gonna work. It's very bad cure Sam agreed right after the twins left there. That's. We're being lied to. They're just covering the fact that they're gonna target us. That's definitely what's happening here. And. Cura a cure thinks that that Mark is like them. Now that that Mark is somebody that's going to be easy to put up on the block. I talked yesterday or maybe two days ago about marks conversation with Kierra and how he really tried to relate to them in a way that was like, hey, you know, I feel just I feel betrayed by Chelsea. I feel like I'm on the outs and people are just gonna put me up as an easy pawn. And that seemed to have really gotten through to Kira they really seem to agree with that sentiment. The now Mark is an easy pawn to put up whether or not that's true will find out because he does have the protection of the pretty boys. Adam did mention him as a potential pawn at one point during the day. But I think that was probably just cover. So. But that is that is how cure is seeing Mark now and also cure Sam definitely do not believe KiKi two may have no trust in them whatsoever. And as far as here in Marco, I think Mark put in some great groundwork going forward with here to get in her ear and let her know. No, I'm by myself. I really have no any kind of takes the light off of the boys. Lines little bit at least for marks case. And I think it really will benefit him going or develop a couple people. They're gonna use him as on star going forward. But I think that if he doesn't have the pretty boys where the pretty boys back on each other. This could really implode on him. But with where it's at right now. I think he's came. I think it was a good idea to get in your white good. Yes. Kiki is going to start her campaign. She's going to go to Anthony and. Going to do. I I've been I've been glossing over the campaign. It's it's very it's very bad of until I'm competitor. I'm going to win competitions. I'm an asset. But it's it's worse than that. Because the points by themselves. They're bad like, I'm a target. But I'm also I've got STI trust ST one hundred percent. And that's great for you. Because that means that you have another person the tach to me that's going to. You know for you. And that's how she can. Okay. And so hold on let me just try to remember. So. I'm bigger I'm bigger target. And what else was I was I I'm good at competition. So I can I can help you and. And so s is loyal loyal to me. And. I mean, obviously, people will be putting me on the block if I stay. So that's a that's a good a good thing. And what else was I as I I mean. Yeah. I so please keep me. Everything about this shoes is got to be red flags. Like, none of those excuses would be wanting in the house of our in there like it. I don't get it. They're like why is she going this route? Like, what makes her think, these are ideas? This is how she thinks that campaigning works. I guess she something fundamental about how the game works. Kiki doesn't understand. And she's a great like, I love KiKi the person because she's awesome. I think she's funny. I think she's like a really cool person. But in the game, she's just really really bad at it. She doesn't understand the fundamentals of how it works that. When you're campaigning to people you need to be building relationships not listing off your. Bullet pointed list of reasons why it's good for you to stay the same for every person, you go to and then also go to different people and tell them different things when those people talk, and they find out that you're telling them different things. And it's just it's very very bad. She just doesn't we've talked about it over and over. She just doesn't know how to talk to people that she doesn't like, and it's really really been a hindrance to her here. That's always been her problem. She can't socialise people that she doesn't get along with we've seen it multiple times in this house in preseason. Everyone was Twitter was thinking this was their next Queen. This was going to be the next girl that they're rooting or she had all the characteristics that they were looking for. But it's really not showing in the house. And if she doesn't get along with someone it shows right on hers leave it shows that she has something against person. She has no way of communicating with them in so trying to campaign boats after people have seen her for whatever thirty days. Now that they can't trust her because she doesn't give them their full attention. I think that's why she's having trouble now. Yes. So Anthony, Anthony does say oh, go those are those are some great points that you've made. And this is like a KiKi kind of feels like the more points. That are good that. She makes the better chance she has of convincing. It's like it's all about a point system. Like, you wanna make people feel good? That's that's how you do. It. Not just be like, oh, this was a good point. This was not one. But this was a great point. So that's two to one. There you go on voting to keep you. Oh, there's some great points. I have heard that. You've thrown my name out here a couple of times. And so that was not my favorite thing to hear. And he just goes into his Anthony thing where he's like he is just talks for like twenty minutes. And and then KiKi leaves and feeling like, I'm not sure what just happened. But I'm pretty sure that just went really well everything Adams Anthony says a goes through to her, but she's not one hundred percent. Sure what's going on? It's just to watch him correlate. Because he thinks that he has this game all wrapped around his finger. And so watching her a giving her the news that he thinks he wants to hear it really confuses her. And I think that she doesn't know what she's giving with Anthony. But Anthony is really telling her what are his concerns? I think that she sing those concerns as. Positives? I don't think that's know at all the case. So I think this is gonna backfire for her. But I I really think that Corey Anthony ARA package deal. So for her to get through. Maybe she needs alone time with Corey that may be rub off on. But again, the well she will talk to Corey and that will be the one time. She recognizes that went really poorly. Again. This was this is what I tweeted it out because it was just so funny, and it happens every time KiKi left this conversation. I think that went really well, Anthony left the conversation. And he spent the rest of the day saying that was the most terrible thing I have ever experienced. She's so bad at this. So. Yeah. That you want to keep my house. Just because you know, how terrible she is at communicating with people. Well, I guess for the he's in the pretty boy lions once keep Mark. But if she was against anyone else. I really think that she's the person I'd wanna keep the how terrible cheese that over that's distant campaigning. You also have to look at like positioning in the house, and the fact that she's been doing well in competitions. And. Since since you so terrible. It's hard to connect with her. And if you connect with her, then if she does win a competition puts you in danger. So we then got Adam Sam Corey and Anthony own the HOA trim, and they were talking about the fact that like kike Esty went to Sam Ataman told them that they were going to say that they were targeting them. But they really weren't. And then avenues like, yeah. That's what they were telling me just now. And so they're comparing notes, and they're like, you know, what we're going to make sure we share the KiKi campaign information with each other. So that we know exactly what's what's being said in the fact that she's trying to play two different sides. And this kind of grouping of people would be a great group to do something with moving forward. Adam feels really good about it. This is kind of what he's been pushing for and and so this sort of Adam Sam Cora, Anthony, they're getting together. Sharing information. You know, they're really looking forward to to doing something as a group here. Yeah. And I think it's good for them to come together. So that or both sides that they can communicate. In you know, started report, but they have something to build against right now in KiKi ESI. And so I think that this is a short term thing that will work out for them. But in the long run, I don't think it works out for the pretty boys. I don't think it works out for Sam. I think that all this is not going to mesh well going forward. But right now it works maybe even for the next week but going forward, I don't see this group lasting. It's I mean, similar to the I mean, we had a similar group forum just a few days ago between Sam Adam Dane, SDN KiKi, and we saw how long that lasted. So. We got KiKi talking to Damien she's telling him about her campaign and how she told Sam and Adam one thing, but she's actually still coming for them. And Damien says I think you should be working on Kira cures. Probably the important person to work on here, which is pretty spot on. She says I am working on Kira? So I got this. No, she doesn't have this. But honestly, you're completely right? That's what she needs to be working towards. That's literally her only hope she doesn't have the votes. She doesn't have the people in her in her corner. Backing her up, you know, she has SE into a small extent Dane other than that. She's got no one. So she doesn't have the vote. She thinks she does her only hope right now in galions, giving her great advice. Go talk to Kira. She's only talk to she's the one with the blood veto, otherwise you're dead in the water like it's just not gonna work. So I mean, they don't want to say that to her because they wanna like kinda keep her on her toes, but they need she needs that she needs your otherwise if she doesn't build that report with her. She's gonna have nothing. We granted we don't know what's going to happen with this. We don't know where it's gonna go. But that's her only hope. Yes. So KiKi asks Damien about his conversation with Sam and he he holds back bit here. You know, he does not tell her that Sam told him that Kiki's Aligarh, and you know, basically that Kiki's should be leaving. He's like, okay. She's kind of AIG about things. This is why Dame his last as long as he has because he will not attend his own game by sharing this kind of information. He's still I believe at this point once KiKi to stay, but not to the extent that he's going to throw himself onto the bus. He's not gonna jeopardized his aim or e or even s I just think that you'd like you said he's playing great game in the fact that he's being nonchalant about it. It's not so much like loader. I have not going to say that at all. But it's someone who's being wise with their choices which you don't see a lot of the big brother house from year to year. The he's going around picking up information talking to everyone being honest with them, but not giving away too much of his hand. And I think that that is going to be huge for him. If he ever comes into power is going to have a lot of people in his ear. So I think he's going to be able to pick up a lot of information which God, I hope someone else gets power this week. Please. So they talk about the votes, they say cure KiKi, the she has three votes, Dane, SD Damian. So they just need one more. And you know, then then then KiKi can stay and unfortunately for KiKi, she's not getting one more. And even if she does she's gonna lose lose one of those three. Mike, go unanimous s defines it that all the house is going against her. I think I think ST will throw revote no matter what. But but yeah. Great. So Sam Adam talk about targeting SD next week. They are they're recognizing that SD is the one that is better socially between the two of her and KiKi they feel like ST is behind anything that KiKi does well that probably comes from ST. And so they're looking at potentially targeting her because they still feel good about Damian. Now, they're building something with a Corey and Anthony, which just leaves Dane and ST on the outs. Now, of course, Sam doesn't really want to ask you to go. She's gonna talk with Kierra about how she really wants to take a shot at Dane next week that if they can they want to make sure Dane is the one to go, obviously Esti much less threatening Dane at this point. And so. You know, she talked with care about how they feel really good about their positioning. But they feel good about what they've been doing this week and next week. It's time to take a shot at Dane, if they can especially once cure KiKi is gone, and and he will have less votes to stay cure feels like they've been talking enough in spreading enough seeds that there are enough people that would vote Dane out next week if they took that shot, so so that's what they're planning and the feeling is mutual between. Dane, I think he's ready to take a shot at Sam even if it hurts Adams game, I think that for the girls they have to make that move. Because right now that move is the only move that's coming after them directly. I think that if dang it's any kind of power, I think here answering might be the to go up on the block as far as I think that if she's really going to need hero to win this this age wage or that happened. I really don't think Adam would. Ever go with that in and go through that because of the pretty boy alliance. But yeah, I really do think that shots are gonna be fired one way or the other is just trying to see who's gonna hit. I yes. So Dane is going to talk to Anthony and start to heat up a little bit. Dane is again sort of pitching that the weakest side pieces are the ones that need to stick around. And oh, we'll look at that ST happens to be the weakest. Oh, man. What a what a surprise. I guess we should just keep ST around for a long time because she's the weakest we should be looking at. I mean, if you're ranking weakest to strongest okay, Kirs, the weakest we'll keep cure around the longest, but then SD then then Damian than Sam than Corey. I mean, I think that's. That's about the order there. And Anthony's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is. That's that. We we need to look deeper than that. It's not about competition. It's about it's about percentages about loyalty. And I know for fact, the Corey wouldn't do anything without coming to me first. So you know, you gotta look at that. And and Dana, not no, no, no, no. It's loyalty doesn't matter. This is all it's hold onto competitions. Now. Loyalty doesn't mean anything if they win a competition is we just need to win all the competitions. We need to get out strongest people, and no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works. And they they start to get a little heated here. And this is where the guy side pieces are really turning against them with each other. I think this is where they're trying to do their best interest. Anthony has Corey Dane has SE's Sam annum has Sam. So I think this is where the targets are going to be placed somewhere, and it's just depending on which one it lands. This is the best news for Damian is Damian moved right in the middle of that land in a lot of things can change in a couple of weeks. He's not the main target, but I can see where vote guys are coming from. They're trying to protect their psyches that helping them get earned the game the people that maybe they think they can take long in beat later on. So I understand where their heads are at the this is where it's going to be away. Lime in the road. This is where everything's going to splinter for them in my opinion with their alliance because they're going to fight too hard to keep their person there. And I think this is where the fractions will start. Yes. So we then get a little bit of Corey Anthony Corey wants to make sure Corrie wants to make sure that she talks to Sam about the fact that she knows that there was a back door plan intended for her. But she because and Corey is, you know, really learning the game pretty well. At this point. She's learning well from Anthony, and she has good instincts and part of this is that she she knows that to follow up on things. Right. Like, she knows that Sam knows that she knows that. There was a back door plan for her because that information is out there. And so if you know because Corey is playing up the fact that she trusts Sam it would be weird. Corey didn't go to Sam to talk about this. I need to make sure I talked to Sam 'bout this at some point. And make sure that she thinks that I don't think that she had anything to do with it. And that Adam didn't have anything to do with it. And that Dane is the one to imply that I think that he is the one that is that is the the behind this thing. So it's important to have that conversation. And and she does later in the day talked with Sam has this exact conversation. I never thought it was you. Oh, great. Great. I never thought it was me either. And so she that's she wants to do that. And imply that you know, that Dane is the person continued build that bond continue to build that sort of these two pairs coming together. She also tells Anthony about cures plan to target Dane moving forward. So Anthony has that information stowed away. She says, I don't I don't wanna put Damian Kira or Sam on the block Anthony. Doesn't leave a lot of people getting small here. Yeah. That targets getting real small on people's bags of. Yeah. No. It's you know, welcome to the game core. Thank you for starting to like go around and realizing you need to talk to people and communicate with people and get that word across any rate for Anthony does he's getting all his feedback. Right. Thank in his ear. But yeah, I think that she they're really starting to realize that the targets are getting bigger and bigger and bigger on each each other's back. And I really think that each of them they need these pieces to give them information because otherwise they're not gonna get the Intel because the game is so fluid at this point that I'm just I don't know. I think that for them they need this kind of information to come in for their games to enhance if they don't or one of their pieces gets Aken out. I think it's gonna backfire all yes. And also important to know, of course, that Anthony knows all of this about Corey and is one hundred percent lying to. To adam. And Dane about who she's actually targeting in order to protect her because he is her piece or she is his piece on the board. So there you go. Adam and Sam we're gonna have a big relationship fight. We can kind of gloss over that. Because they're annoying Anthony and Damian talk for while Anthony is going to work on Damian for a long time. He's gonna spend a long time really throughout the day working on Damian to try and basically flipped his vote. Pull him in a little bit more. He tells Damian. Hey Kiki's thrown your name out Dame. What KiKi through my name out like, wait. What? Yeah. Yeah. I heard it KiKi. I mean, he he goes onto explain the thing. He's been playing all day, which is KiKi is not picking side. Look that you have different groups in the house. You can't go to one group and say to that group pay I'm with you. I'm going against them. But I'm going to say I'm going against you. I'm really with you. And then go to another group and say, hey, I'm gonna say I'm going against this other group, but I'm really with you. And then go to the third group and be like, hey, I'm going against accurate, but I'm really with you. That's not how it works. You need to pick a side and stick with it and pick the majority. That's how you play this game. And KiKi is not doing that. She's going to exclude all over the place. She's lying. She's thrown. Everybody's named out. She's on my name out. She's in your name out and snot good. It's not good. So he's been a lot of time working on Damian there Damian will after he talks with Anthony kind of wonder to himself like KiKi said my name. Yeah. I think he's really second guessing himself right now. But Anthony working magic telling people little things giving him little hands. Even though the information might always be one hundred percent, correct. He's at least giving in people's ears in causing that kind of friction amongst people with they feel like they can trust Damian's really second guessing e-right now it's starting to stir the bottle little bit. Yeah. I mean, I like KiKi has said Damian's name. It's just that it will like in in the telephone game as as Anthony likes to call. It of naming targets Damian is one of the people she actually probably wouldn't target. She would if she had to like, she is in in the past been genuine about like if we have to cut Damien, we have to Damian, but at this point in time because she has no other allies, she actually would probably be loyal to Damien, but she has said his name. So that's out there later. In the night Damian's gonna give us a little more insight onto how he's feeling about. This basically saying you know, what I trust those guys I trust. Dane, I trust KiKi. I trust SD. I want KiKi to stay. I don't know if the numbers there, though, for some reason, it seems like Anthony Khori are gonna have it out for KiKi. They have a problem with her. I don't know. I don't know. Exactly. What's happening? Why they want her out? But it seems like they do. And if they do the numbers are probably not there. So he's kind of putting in a pickle. And and I hope I hope that he does not vote to keep KiKi. Even though he might know that the votes are not there similar to what he did with Mackey because I do think that at that point it may tank. What's left of his game? Yeah. He better not do this. Because there's no way the votes were there. They're not going to get the votes. Don't throw a vote on onto her because you think you know, that she's going to be better for your game that. Might be worse for your game by taking game because you're taking trying to keep someone in the house. Everyone else wants out. So I really hope that someone will let him know like this is the plan, everyone's unanimous. This is what we're doing besides ST. So you need to come on board with this. I think he hears from someone gets until that there's no way the vest their comeback. A right now, it's kind of worrying needs to hear that he really wants to fight for her. But he's not gonna say anything, but she has votes vote for her has one or two people. Give him that information saying, oh, yeah. We're gonna vote for her. We'll vote for her. She might cast his vote that way in it might be only him in ST that voted that way. Put a big big target on his back. Yeah. Damian at this point is basically the only person that house that has been able to resist Anthony's charm that Anthony is not able to control Damian. Really, none of the pretty boys are able to control or influence Damian because Damian has a mind of his own. He has been tricked. A couple of times he does trust Dane, probably. More than he should. But I don't think Dane could convince him to do something. He didn't want to do Damian is probably the strongest willed person in the house and the thing. That's that's keeping him. There is that he is also the best person at convincing other people that he does not have the strongest will. He is really good at convincing everyone that he is with them and believe everything they say and is influenced by them. And so if he shows that that that he has a backbone, and he shows that the pretty boys were not able to convince him more influence him with his vote than than I think he quickly jumps up to the top of the target list because he should be at the top of target list. He is a good competitor. And he is not intimately connected with any of the pretty boys. He is. He is a great compromise for everyone to be like, you know, what we can keep our own pieces. Damian's threat key. Hard to influence. He's not attached to any of us. Let's take Damian I and continue to hold off on a tacking each other's pieces. And. That will be great. And he's I again, I think the one of the more likely people to really throw a wrench into the pretty boys plans if he wins, but they're not recognizing it because he's so like just down to earth and chill genuine that. They've all feel good with him. But again, I feel like if he exposes himself by making this by casting vote for KiKi, then they might start to realize. Wow. Actually, hold on. You should definitely be our target this week. That's hundred percent. He is their biggest straight physically threat is physically when it comes to any of these petitions use the Knicks most athletic male left in the house. So why wouldn't he be threat to the pretty boy lights? He's shining guy. Right in front of everyone should be the target. But he's not because he's able to get into people's heads and talk to them and be in correlate with them until them what they wanna hear. But that's not going to work every single week. And I feel like for him. He needs to continue doing what these. He's doing he can't badge for KiKi. And if he does is going to put that target on his back that he doesn't need. He probably shouldn't have got this far. Let's be honest, Damian the way he's playing not being main ally with one of the pretty boys or in there. I think that is one thing that's a big factor in his game going forward that if he doesn't have those relationships with them. It could hurt him down the line right now. He's doing enough of a good job. You'll agreeing with all of them agreeing with other alliances. I think that for him. He is the next biggest target. He should be the next one out. But I'm glad he's not all we need him to do is win. Dan competition come on like, please win something. Because if he does I think the house would flip I think everyone would be running to him telling when he needs to hear. And I think he'd be able to use that information to make best move possible. So for us as fans really love his game. I wanna see him too. Well, but he is that next big tar. Guit? Luckily, they don't quite see it yet unless he does. Yes. So Kiki's gonna move her campaign over to KIRO once again, it's again, not go. Well, KIRO questions KiKi about the talking to the cameras doing like, hey, we're targeting the showman's thing and KiKi denies it says I'll why does this keep coming up this. I'm pretty sure that didn't happen. You know, I it's very frustrating. Keep hearing about this and ultimately curious as you know, but he knows I don't like Mark in ultimately, I'm gonna vote with the house. So, you know. Don't worry. Yeah. Just voting with the house voting with the house not voting for you. But this is where I can't stand each game because she hears his information that parents she said something about going after the showman's, but her way of saying, no to it was I don't think I did that I s we do that. If I will be done that I would've done that with you in the room. Like, no one else would have been there. How does that Bence? Why are you telling people that because now they're thinking okay that has been in your head? Obviously you've said at some point if you're saying, oh, I don't think I said it was someone else in the reminded don't think Anthony was there. Then obviously set it. Excuse if you didn't say, it's no I never said that I would never do that. I wanna work with them. I never going to go after them. Why would I ever do that question? It don't question. Whether you said, it was someone in the room in front of people. It's just oh, it's such bad gameplay. So. So. Yeah. And also when somebody tells you their voting with the house, that's not a good time. No. Because people they want to get something from their vote. They want they want something in return. So if voting for you, they want to be like, hey, I'm voting to keep you because I want you here, and you should reciprocate that. They would if if they were voting to keep you wouldn't just be like. Yeah. Voting because everyone else's vote in that way. So I'm also gonna vote that way nothing to do with you just happens to be voting to keep you like that doesn't happen. So. So SD and KiKi are gonna talk as you mentioned about like what was did. We do that. I don't remember. Maybe we did. I don't know. Adam. There was Anthony their bane. What do you think? It's a mess. Kiki? We'll go to Sam spear like Sam, I don't know if you've heard this thing about me going to the cameras did not happen. Did not happen. People are lying lying about this. I have gone to the cameras I talked to the cameras all the time. But but not this specific thing and SAM's like, oh, I totally believe you don't worry about. It's it's totally fine. Is I I heard about it. I heard about it a long time ago. And I never I never even said anything to you. Because I still don't even care that much. It's like. We're not don't believe it. So don't worry about it Kazan like super weird sometimes so. Oh, yeah. No. I totally believe you. There's no way. I wouldn't believe those rumors. I heard that a while ago. I want to believe that I would have said something to you. Yeah. Right. Come on. Let's be real you all people would have said something to her. If you didn't think that you can get her out like it's he s like come on like, why are using this excuses. Like, I don't know. I'm not sure it's not gonna word and good for San legs. Faking it enough that Kiki's believing ambulance. Okay. Came out that coversation I told her that it wasn't me that I never said that or at least I don't remember saying that so we're good. Like, there's no way she thinks that I'm coming after her and little issue. No, SAM's back there being like, yeah. We gotta get her out. She's one hundred percent coming after us. There is no way. So at some point I need to do some detective work because I can't even remember who it was that started this whole thing with like some people say it was Mark. Some people say it was Anthony some. People's it was Dane, I think it was probably one of those three. But I can't remember who it was Mark. Then like really good on him because he's done such a good job of being like, you know, I didn't see it myself. But I've heard the rumor he's the one that saw it and started it then like he tricked me. I don't even know who said. Yeah. But. Almost definitely happened. Because as they're talking about it's so specific. And this is exactly like, I'm pretty sure I remember them seeing them do that exact thing. So. People saying Anthony, that's that's the prevailing theory. Is that it was probably Anthony? But I don't know if Anthony's the one that caught them or it was Dane that told Anthony because Dane saw them. So I don't know we'll have to figure it out. Any? But I honestly like you said, I can't tell you one way or the other. But I mean, if it was mar refer him and another thing is this is just started out like a game and telephone like someone said, oh, I think as the coming after Sam Adams, then it becomes they're coming after salmon, Adam, oh, they said it to the life eaters. I think it can just firearm without going through people to people. But yeah, I like you said, I think it was Anthony. I'm not sure though. Yeah. So Anthony is going to talk with Dane and Adam they talk about what do moving forward with the the the game plan. Here. Anthony says that Sam is getting close to court which is good because if Sam ever talks to Corey about making a move against the guys Cory will come to him. And so he says Dane what you need to do is tell SD to also get close to Corey. So that if s tries to make a move that Cory will come and tell me about it. And clearly what Anthony is trying to do here. Put Corey at positioned in the middle between the two groups. So that he can continue to be positioned in the middle between the two groups keep Corey safe to keep him safe. And this is really funny 'cause Danes like I already told SD close to Corey I keep telling her to do that. Anthony, she hasn't done it. And he's like, no she hasn't done it. Yep. That's that's KiKi nasty for you. No matter what you say. They're only going to do what they wanna do. And if they don't like people are not gonna do it. Yeah. They're just going to hang out with each other all the time like barely Brancheau ninety five percents time. They're just hang out with each other. And a winning talk game. They came for a few minutes. Come back. Hang out again. It's really frustrating. Yes, Joseph says, Dane told Anthony that was my that was my thought that I think maybe deigned told Anthony, and then Anthony told the rest of the house, but. Yeah. Don't I don't know how cow confirmed. It is. All right back to this Dane says. Yeah, he's already told us to do that. She hasn't done it. Those are talking about how Damian might put Adam up there. Of like. Yeah. Damian. My put you up at him. And he's like. He likes Davian, and he doesn't want him to be like he's looking at the pieces on the board. And he's like, I don't see who else. Dan, Damian's going to put up at this point. And don't worry. We can we can get in his ear. We can direct them away from it Dane says you'd have to promise not to use the veto if you put up Sam and Kira because otherwise he'd put you up. So if you on the video you couldn't use it on Sam. And he was like, yeah. But it's still just use the veto. So. Come on, you're spilling. What to do? Just see just say they no problem. That's what I'll do no reason stained Dane, one Sam out. I know he's so on that objective. But it's like sometimes you got to give people little something or give them a little bit of clarity to. Okay, I'm willing to work with you on this. So I know you're like China shop, and you know, what you want and you're going for kind of like settle down give it a little leeway. Let people speak their minds and kind of be open to it. Don't be so one-sided. Kick kick cure is going to play a prank on on Adam because they're having like a scare fight. And she they came into the this sort of well, these guys were talking active join them, but then cure came in. And was like Adam I need to talk about the blood veto. What? And then she just leave start booking and he gets up. He's like putting out a cigarette. He starts falling them. And they're like we need to talk about the blood, Vida. Oh my God. What what's going on? And he goes, and then Sam jumps out of the bathroom and scares him. And I mentioned this because I was freaked out when we talk about the doesn't go what's happening. But then they also used it again, S D And Dane as de went out to the hot tub to be like guys meeting about the blood veto, and they all came running in to to find that they got pizza, and I'll Kahal once again, it's back after the the controversial statements made last week the they feel comfortable. Introducing the alcohol again. Here on Sam the real Jayme feeling of big brother Canada. The scare tactic. That was good the piano using that as an is Larry. But now you twice don't use it anymore seen enough of that. Excuse people aren't going to. Twice within thirty minutes. All right guys, come over the different excuse down. It's just pizza. We're good. Now. Let's move on from the blow veto talk. Now us as viewers or wanting to see what's going on. Don't know wanna tagging is us now. Yes. So so that's basically what we got for the day anything else that you wanted to bring up, Bobby. No, no, like say quite weekend or week sees me, but we'll see hopefully things turn around. Once we find out what's going on very excited by what that was in do even if it's something small something small, we'll take take it Kira? Did briefly mentioned to the cameras. They said I almost wish this vote wouldn't go my way. So that I could make a big move. Which implies that that? Even if the vote did not go the way cure a wanted that with the blood veto KIRO could do something to change that. And make it go the way that they wanted. We thinking them in radio like honestly like is that a route they're going with this? Because otherwise, I don't see how it makes sense. Unless there's something we're just not seeing it could be that they can use it to flip votes. It could be that big could use it to just decide who goes home. It could be that they could use it to remove one person from the block and put somebody else on instead. But I think that I think that if it were something like that, then they would probably be thinking about taking a shot at Bain. Like if it was if it was anything powerful enough to just take someone right out of the house. They would definitely be using its take out of the house. So I think it's probably something more along the lines of I don't know. Like, I. Again, like maybe again as Nikki points out. This is one of the theories that I talked about vetoing vote or multiple votes, potentially or. I don't know. Often find out ITO would play into that. But you know, honestly, all the people in the house are thinking the same thing. They're thinking that she's going to be able to take someone down in replace someone. So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. I really might be the vote thing because cures talked about like, we have the votes the votes are there to take KiKi out. No matter what. So it might be something to do that. And that's why it's a blood veto. And that's why it's used on Thursday because it's it has to do with votes in means that you are more in charge of the votes. We've talked about it being the sole vote, but it could also be vetoing votes or changing votes or something along those lines. So. Windy through the house were good. We will hopefully find out tonight during the episode. So of course, we'll we'll we'll see how that goes tomorrow. We'll be back at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happened today on the big brother can't live feeds and then tomorrow night's we'll be live to recap the Vic vixen where we will likely. See KiKi, go home, and then maybe we'll see the competition there or or maybe we'll have to wait. We'll just have to wait, and wait and see never no. And then Sunday nights. I have been talking with Bruno for for the guest spot for the Sunday night show where we recap this on Annette up. So make sure you tune in for that as well should be very fun Bruno's. Great guest. So. Yes. Lots of great stuff heading your way. You can find me on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn, you can find Bob working to find you. Bobby Goodspeed, Bobby that's g OD SP y e o b y so his he didn't know spoke wasn't clear. You can also find me on Instagram Attaran underscore Armstrong, and on twitch, twitch dot TV slash turn Armstrong. I'll probably go live today for I don't know to to hang out. It's my birthday hang out with you guys. Thank you. Thank you all in the chat for the birthday. Which is you guys have been very sweet. So I appreciate you guys hanging out with me all season long. But it, but especially today and thank you. Thank you for joining us. We'll see next time.

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Special Report | Markets in Turmoil

"This CNBC podcast is sponsored by capital group home of American funds. Their long-term approach helps you say I can't find a firm with nearly ninety years of experience navigating market volatility visit capital group, dot com slash market volatility. American Funds Distributors Inc... I I'm NBC producer Katie Kramer One of the voices behind the NBC podcast Squawk Pot in these times of uncertainty, we WANNA. Make sure we're bringing you our listeners as much information as possible as quickly as we can. That's why we're sharing with you now. A CNBC special report markets in turmoil listen. I'm Scott Wapner on day. One hundred, seventy, seven of the corona virus crisis tonight, the nation's top doctor warns the next few weeks or critical in our fight against the virus. We are still in the middle of the first wave. Dr. Anthony Fauci goes before members of Congress so before you start talking about what a second way is. What we'd like to do is to get this outbreak under control tonight. Details on what he said. Where we stand, it's going to be very hard for local school. Districts make decisions to open and educators prepared to keep. The doors closed in September. This CNBC special report begins right now. Here's Scott Wapner. Welcome. It is good to have you with us on this. Tuesday night our top story. Dr Anthony. FAUCI is warning for the nation as he testified before Congress today. We do have C. Contributor Dr. Scott Gottlieb the former FDA commissioner. He is with us once again tonight. Dr Gotlib welcome back, Dr, faculty. Today, saying the next two weeks or going to be critical. I'm assuming you agree with that. I agree with it. I think really this week's critical. And when you look at some of the states that growth in cases in some of the states, they may be under exponential growth right now, certainly, the cases that are building in Texas would would be indicative of the fact that there is exponential growth in cases there, and there is a major outbreak underway and that state. So he said, we're in the middle of the first way that's key is there are some questions as to whether we're still seeing the first wave or the second wave? The other issue that we need to deal with tonight is that model suggests the spread is actually accelerated since last week Dr Gottlieb. That's according to Morgan. Stanley you cited that today on twitter. Yes, it's very clear that there's multiple states now that have epidemics underway when you go to rt light, which has done a pretty good job of tracking reproduction rate in different states, the scope of the epidemic in different states it shows about thirty states where the epidemics expanding and about a week ago, there are only about fifteen states where the epidemic was still expanding when you look. Look at Arizona. With thirty six hundred cases California with five thousand Texas with almost fifty five hundred Florida with thirty three hundred today. It's very clear that there is epidemics underway in the southern states in the challenges going to be hard to get them under control, because these states aren't going to revert back to the population wide mitigation, which never really implemented fully to begin with. It's going to be hard to implement universal masking after all the messaging around that and the messaging and the discretion has been given the local officials, so it's hard to see what's going to happen. That's going to intervene to stop the spread. A lot of these cases are younger people and the fact that would diagnosing so many younger people with infection and starting to show up in the hospital as As well is an indication at the spread must be far more pervasive at the community level, because we know only a smaller percentage of younger people are going to present with symptoms severe enough to get them tested and certainly get hospitalized, so you could surmise from that that the spread these states much must be pretty widespread at this point. That's going to be hard to get under control we have. Already from Dr Foul Today on Capitol Hill. Let's listen and we can react to it on the other side. We're now seeing a disturbing surge of infections that looks like it's a combination, but one of the things is an increase in community spread, and that's something that I'm really quite concerned about that. Do you now regret not advising people more forcefully? To wear masks earlier. Okay! We're GONNA play that game. Let me explain to you. What happened back? Then should be a yes or no, there's more than a yes or no by the tone of your question. I don't regret that because let me explain to you. What happened at that time? There was a paucity of equipment that are healthcare providers needed. Who put themselves daily in Harm's way of taking care of people who are ill. We did not want to divert masks p away from them to be used by the people who think thinking that young people have no deleterious consequences is not true, seeing more and more complications and young people when and I believe. Believe, it will be when and not if we get favorable candidates with good results, we be able to make them available to the American public as I said to this committee months ago within a year from when we started, which would put us at the end of this calendar year, and the beginning of twenty twenty, one I as a member of the Task Force, and my colleagues on the Task Force to my knowledge. I know for sure, but to my knowledge. None of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. That just is a fact. In fact, we will be doing more testing. Dr Fallacy Today. Dr Gottlieb just your reaction and total to what you heard from Dr Fauci today. Look I think the issue around the masks is is real. Early on there was a shortage of masks so hard to have a universal recommendation on people to wear masks, even even simple masks level procedure masks during short supply. There's also concern that if you recommended that people wear masks. It was sort of a mixed message because the top line recommendation was they stay at home, and so there was concern that if you said stay at. At home, but we're a mask that was going to give conflicting guidance and people could could think that they'll be safe. As long as they go out with a mass, and so would conflict with the the overall recommendation, which was people should be staying at home. I think what these states in the south need to do right now is do very good contact tracing work figuring out. What are the congregate settings where this is spreading right? Right now, and they don't really know. They think it's the bars, but they don't have very good contact tracing back to those establishments, and they're going to have to take targeted mitigation steps. They're going to have to be willing to shutdown establishments where this is spreading, and if it's the bars of the restaurants are going to have to take targeted measures that may be politically difficult, but the level of spread right now is sufficiently high, it's. It's going to require some pretty aggressive steps to get it under control and I. Don't think that just a seasonal effect at this point is going to do it. There's really no backstop between now and fall. You cited some states in the south and in fact today. Texas Florida Georgia that made their policy decisions on on reopening based on what was happening in Sweden now. Are they paying the price for making some of those decisions tonight? Well I. Don't know if they made it based on Sweden. What I said was that it looks like the Swedish model in so far as they reopened against the backdrop of a lot of spread. And they tried to take targeted steps to protect the elderly population, focusing a lot of resources on nursing homes cognizant that there was going to continue to be spread. They opened a restaurants and the bars, and so people were going to congregate, and so the spread wasn't going to go away, and there was a presumption that so long as you had resiliency in the healthcare system capacity left, you could deal with the continuing spread and so I think that there was some implicit understanding that they were gonNA. Have continued spread those states I think. Think what they didn't anticipate was that it would accelerate the fashion fascin- has but they. We opened against the backdrop of a lot of spread, and it wasn't just going to go away. It was going to continue at at that level at the very least and probably accelerate, remember it takes time for this to build a community level before it really explodes in the public view, and that's in fact what's happened? This spread must have been underway for weeks and weeks, and now we're starting to detect it because it was spreading a community young people. That were mostly not presenting either for testing or for care. We'll speaking of we're seeing hospitalization rates for younger people tick up. How concerning is that to you? Well very concerning because number one, it's an indication that young people are getting sick and we know that we don't. We don't fully understand the raiders. It's presumed that a much lower rate of young people going to develop more severe symptoms, but it's insufficient numbers right now. That is starting to press the healthcare systems that he states in Arizona. Eighty, four percent of general medical beds, and or vice you an east, we percents general. Medical beds are occupied right now. You're starting to see in Texas and in Texas Medical Center in Houston about twenty five percent of ICU. Beds are occupied with covert patients, so even though some of these states have a lot of medical resources. They're starting to press up against those medical resources. Children's Hospital in Houston is now accepting adult patients. The states that you also have to worry about. We haven't talked as much about. It states like South Carolina Alabama Arkansas. Don't have the resiliency. Don't have the medical. Medical capacity and are also seeing rising cases those estates that could get in trouble much more quickly than a big state. Like California or Texas, it's very big healthcare system so a pretty sobering stat today I'm wondering your reaction to it. If in fact, it is the case that one out of every twenty people who've gotten cove nineteen have died. That implies a global death rate of five percent. That's much much much higher than I think people are expecting to hear. Well? It's a crude fatality rate I mean that's the that's tally rate based on people who've been diagnosed. The presumption is and I think it's a fair presumption is at the peak of the epidemic. Diagnosing one in ten to one in twenty patients at least here in the United States, maybe even less than a lot of other countries right now doing a better job, we're probably diagnosing between one and five to one in ten infections right now I would guess one in eight. So we're doing a much better job of turning over the cases, but even now the thirty thousand cases with diagnosing each day probably represents at least two hundred thousand new infections a day. We're just only diagnosing about thirty thousand of them. Let's get to some tweets if we could Dr, Gottlieb Daughters Co worker tested positive for Kobe yesterday asks our viewer. They work together on Sunday. How long would she wait to get tested to have a reasonable expectation of true result? Typically, five to seven days, most people who are going to get infected we'll get infected within five or seven days the classic teaching here in these instances for up to fourteen days because there have been reports with the incubation periods been as long as fourteen days, but I think if you get tested after to seven days, you might WanNa. Go Get retested again after another week. Just to be sure my next question, if I'm in my twenties without underlying conditions, I feel as worried about getting covid nineteen, but I have seen some stories about serious long term health repercussions. What have you seen concerning? long-term effects in healthier recovered people. There do seem to be some suggestion that there is some long term Su Quel a long-term post viral syndromes. They're rare, but we're seeing some indication that there are which isn't that uncommon with the virus. When you see viruses become epidemic, you do see a small percentage of people have some long term, oftentimes neurological features, which seems to be the case with this virus again very rare so I don't think most people should be worried about it, but there are some suggestions. Suggestions of it, and lastly it's regarding testing, and the fact of the matter is. There's been enough misinformation about testing that this question routinely comes up and I'm going to ask it yet again tonight from our viewer. Is there a misconception between spikes in cases and testing? How is community spread determine just to be clear I. mean we are testing less per capita than other places, even though we're testing more than we were and by a large number from the beginning. Yeah testing per capita has gotten a lot better. There's still some European countries doing a better job than us. We're at the certainly the top half, the probably the top quarter of countries globally right now in terms of our testing. It's not just a function of testing right now that the cases are going up the positivity rates going up as well so in Florida and Texas deposits around ten percent in Arizona told me it's twenty percent right now, so it's not just that we're capturing more cases because we're testing more, there are more cases they rising positivity rate is a guaranteed indication that there's more spread these communities right now, Dr Gottlieb who appreciated as always, we'll see you tomorrow night, thank. Thank you for joining us once again. Thanks like we have a deal tonight. The baseball players Union and owners have reportedly agreed to start a sixty game season on July, twenty four th. John Tatum is the CEO of genetic. Sports enterprises. Marketing sports sponsorship firm working with major companies like Pepsico and American. Airlines joins US once again. Tonight John Welcome back. This is a long time. Coming wasn't sure it was going to get done, but it appears as though it is. God is great to be with you tonight and I'm excited because after one hundred and four days after three eleven the day the sports were stopped. It looks like we're finally getting back to sports so the players are going to. Report on Wednesday July first. To their local ballparks, they'll have about three weeks of. Spring Training. Pick up where they left off on. March Twelfth Marks Thirteenth. When the season and spring training at suspended and then we'll play ball the week. Of July twentieth kickoff six T Games the teams will be regionally position so you'll see the national league central. And the American league central will play a schedule the American league east. The National League east will play schedules regionally, and and then we'll end up on September twenty seventh, and we'll start the playoffs hopefully twenty, eight, twenty, ninth and Up The world series by the end of October, what are you hearing? What Are you hearing today? Plan for? Sorry, what are you? What are you hearing tonight from your major sponsors? And what is the impact in a be two sponsors now? Well there's GonNa be a lot of impact to sponsors. So you've got a couple of new ballparks Globe Life Stadium here in Texas North Texas where I am virtually a brand new ballpark American family insurance. Is, the new title sponsor of the Brewers Ballpark in Milwaukee and there's not gonna be any fans in the stands so at least not to begin the season the week of July twentieth. Now they're going to leave it up to the governor's to determine how they allow fans and spectators back into the stands, and you're going to have the active governors like governor out here in Texas I'm sure. He's going to allow fans in the stands at globe life, and for the Rangers and the Astros but you're going to have fan. governors liked the governor in. Washington state I? I wouldn't expect that T. Mobile Park will have any fans in Seattle for quite a while. The MLB. All Star game was scheduled to be played in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium in in mid-july. Obviously, that's not taking place. There are some other what we would call marquee events that have been scrapped. So the international series last year, remember the Yankees and the red sox played at London, which was a great experience. This was scheduled to be the cubs and the cardinals playing in London that's been canceled for this year Puerto Rico Games have been canceled and and then there are some things that are TB de so Major League Baseball was planning on plan. A FIELD OF DREAMS GAME IN IOWA which was originally going to be the Yankees and the White Sox, because of this regionality to the clubs They're going to probably have to central division. Clubs, it's not finally. Or formally announced, but I would guess if the cubs and the cardinals were supposed to play in London. The easiest thing to do would have the cardinals. The cubs play in Iowa, lastly, dream lastly before I let you go. I said it wasn't easy getting to this finish line and we're not quite across the finish line in full any lasting damage done to the game, because of the bickering back and forth, and how long it took to get to this point. As a great question Scott. I I'm I'm nervous. dependent on the quality of product. They put on the field. I think the fans will definitely come back in terms of viewership. As bill if they're allowed to the WANNA come back to the stadiums, but you know it's hard when people are facing this this pandemic twenty percent unemployment under employment to see people bickering over living ofo. Eight figures or nine figures and You can understand both sides of the argument. There's only two more years under the current collective bargaining agreement. This season and next season the twenty twenty one season, so the players association was very reticent to go down the path of the any kind of salary cap if you will, and certainly the owners I think were very accommodating to pay the players pro rata you know pro-rata of their salary, so if they're playing sixty games if they were scheduled to make thirty million over one, hundred and sixty two, you divide one, sixty, two and and pro rata that out over sixty so. The good news is we're at least going to have baseball. Cross your fingers. Yeah we! We'll see how it all works out John appreciate the time once again. John Tatum joining us tonight as he said from down in the Dallas area, the other pro sports leagues have announced plans for what they hope. Their own seasons will look like the NHL holds a tournament in two cities, the NFL planning to have a full season as of now the NBA hopes to finish its season in Orlando bubble starting next month Cathy. Engelbert is the commissioner of the WNBA early, hoping to start their twenty two game season in July down in Florida as well. Commissioner welcomes good to see you. Thank, you got great. The so, how did you come to your decision? How's IT being received league-wide? It was obviously a huge scenario. Planning exercise with lots of contingencies, and obviously we started coming off our first virtual draft back in April with health, and well being of all those involved in our WNBA community, power mount leveraging off the NBA's extensive protocols. It's great to be in that family and we were looking for the health, and you know the health and safety protocols, and also really wanted a competitive season and our season normally with the summer seasons thirty six games. We're actually going to take a month off for the Olympics this year, and now that the Olympics have been postponed that windows opened up for us. US So? We think we could put on a highly competitive season with a high quality of play in a good footprint down in Florida I M G Academy and I N G obviously known as kind of an elite best in class You Know Athletic, training? Competitive! Environment that we're. We're excited and you know. Everybody has lots of questions and based on your prior segment testing testing testing will be key for us as well as all the other protocols that we're going to be following. Take me through that if you would commission, how often will you be testing? What happens if you have positive players? So, we'll be testing before our players get their in the next in the coming weeks, and then we'll be testing everyday when we get there, and let's see how we do, and that I you know fourteen day period or so with test before tests storing, and then determined that from there, but we'll be testing often I assure you of that, and then obviously we are prepared for positive cova tests We're also being getting prepared for other nine cove and medical things on faith, because obviously these players haven't played in a long time and I think all sports are trying to deal with not only do we have to deal with global pandemic? You deal with the normal injuries that might occur part of the season and with rosters you know being cut down potentially for covert and injury. You really have to plan in advance so obviously we'll do the appropriate quarantine in contact tracing Where's the works? Ending on technology relates to monitoring everything that's going on at the single site and making sure again that relatively speaking, we're providing the best environment. That, we can in order. Put on a competitive season. What sort of conversations if any have you had with commissioner silver of the NBA? You realize you may be the template for these other pro sports leagues. All eyes are going to be on you. Yes every day so obviously. We're all learning a lot. There's a lot of questions we'RE CONSULTING WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST EPIDEMIOLOGISTS, public health officials, but I've certainly learned a lot about that whole ecosystem, as has mature silver, and the NBA again I feel blessed that we're leveraging off their processes. Well, we'll be you know across the way in Florida and again. Have I think a really good testing protocol in place as well as all the other health and safety? Safety measures and mass and temperature checks and Simpson forms, and again finding a technology to bring that all together evaluate and quickly able to respond, and there's one thing I learned from my over three decades and business before taking this role, agility is going to be key here and obviously things are changing every day, and with the trajectory of the virus, and we'll have to continue to be actual. We'll be watching. Wish you the best of Luck Commissioner. Thank you. Thank you so much got nothing overseas. The Commissioner of the WNBA here's what's coming up next on this CNBC special report. Last night Dr Glee raised the possibility. Kids would not be going back to school some states that are tipping into what we would fashion as an epidemic. It's going to be very hard to open public schools against this backdrop next what two big time! Education executives are saying about it? Before the break, the USA on Tuesday night June twenty third. This NBC. PODCAST is sponsored by capital group home of American funds. Their long-term approach helps. You say I can't find a firm with nearly ninety years of experience navigating market volatility visit capital group, dot com slash market volatility, American funds, Distributors Inc... Welcome back on day. One hundred, seventy, seven of the crisis. Here are some more headlines on the virus tonight. The University of Michigan will no longer host a presidential debate in October. Citing public health concerns that debate now moving to Miami a new survey showing about fourteen percent of business owners who received a loan through the government's paycheck protection program expect layoffs when their funds run out and the European Union may ban US travelers when its borders reopened July first because the US hasn't been able to control the outbreak here. Well. The summer of Corona virus is here while students take a break school administrators are working on plans for the fall just last night Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned many schools may not be able to open their doors in September California Department of Education State Superintendent of Public Instruction is Tony. therm and he's with US tonight and also with us, Addison Davis. Hillsborough County Florida's Public Schools Superintendent Gentlem-. It's great to have you with US thank you for being here. Thank you. Both of you are in the midst of a rise in cases Tony California reporting today, a record number of cases daily a six thousand as I mentioned. Florida has its own issues, Addison but Tony Begin with you. How are you thinking about the fall in light of this outbreak of the virus now? We'll Scott. Even prior to this new outbreak, we are increasing cases we do. Our governor helped. We've already started shipping personal. Protective Equipment to a are ten thousand school, so that our students and staff will have access to face coverings in enhanced sanitizer things of that nature. Obviously, we're going to keep watching the situation in monitoring on a day by day basis. We won't open our schools unless it's safe for our kids to do so but we've already put cautions in place as well as procedures for had a safety reopen. If it's safe enough to do so in the fall Addison Hillsborough County. We're talking in the Tampa area correct. Yes Sir it is so, what's your plan here for the fall as of tonight? We've had today. We had a chance to launch. A multiple models to our students in the school board is talk about potential reopened in that the one thing we did, we surveyed our constituents. We found that they just went off. During for choice a choice of whether or not, they returned to brick and mortar schools with they return to learning, or they take on the Hillsborough virtual side of the word so this our plan was very comprehensive to be able to address multifaceted, and when you build a reopen implanted, just not our children come back the work and how you delivered instruction, but it looks about it looks at transportation. You have to look at curriculum delivery method vigil do. Look at food services transportation. It's all inclusive so for us. We work diligently with Department of Education are governor's office to really create a staircase approach to potentially come back, but I with Tony. We are watching it minute by minute day by day. In order to create a safe environment for students in the working, conditions are adults addison. If you had to make a decision tonight, would students be going back in the fall in light of these rising numbers in the State of Florida? Right now we would come back in a blended model in an approach where we would have, we would be able to you know. Work can open our schools at fifty percent capacity that would limit and reduce the the number of individuals in our classrooms, and also in our common areas along with being on our busters, so we would do it at half capacity and a blended model of students have face to face, and also being involved in the learning process to be able to protect all of our of our students, the health and the wellness. That's interesting. Tony. You have a fifty page manual which I looked at in which you say, this is not a one size fits all. Document does that. Tell me that there could be different rules for different districts. You do have some six million kids in public schools in like a thousand districts from what I saw. You're absolutely right with the one thousand at the size of a thousand districts, or is no one-size-fits-all, but we talked about the kind of recommendations that make sense. Our districts all make their own decisions locally guided by their local county health officers, but we put out some guidelines that we think make sense in terms of recommendations. It won't surprise you and the kind of things that we've heard will help to lower the spread. Spread all it needs is people are wearing face coverings. They're washing hands regularly in their maintaining six feet of space now in a school. That's a tough thing to accomplish so right now we're working. Implement those guidance. recommendations in a way that helps our schools figure out how they're gonNA. Make the space. Word were working to make sure they get enough computers for our kids. We have a balance of distance learning and. Construction that we're prepared for, but again we're going to keep monitoring to make sure it's safe before our schools open and they wouldn't be reopening until late. August and in some cases September we have some time, but we believe in being prepared and working with our schools right now to make sure that they are prepared will will be here before we know it much much to our kids, Chagrin of course. Addison? How tolerant are you going to be in terms of cases? If you do have an uptick in cases, once school starts tolerant. WOULD YOU BE? Well this is all working with the Florida Department of Health and working with the Florida Department of Education and also the governor's office to to really look at proactive steps that we can take to to reduce the spread within our school was also communities. You know we're. GonNa take the necessary proactive steps to provide massive equipment to our lease, also gonNA live nasty. Every one of our students to be able to make certain that they have the option of wearing them and we're going to do a lot with providing. Education about personal hygiene with students about washing hands and we're GONNA. Take proactive intensive stats to be able to make sure all of our common areas. All of our classrooms. All of our transportation are I have the necessary equipment to be able to to create. Wipe down to do deep cleaning be to use the necessary equipment to make sure it's a safe place for everyone who are worse, so we're. We're going to continue to monitor this You know on an everyday basis of minute by minute basis in order to make informed decisions, and you know we we, we look forward to our partnerships with our health department, and also working with the school board. Make you sound decisions. I'M GONNA. Ask you both to to stay with me. Because for millions of students in America that transition to remote schooling. was hindered by a lack of access to technology needed to learn for many students Kansas City kindergarten teacher Jennifer Christensen describes the challenges in making any learning equitable in your own words. To, not have the ability to be with them. Face to face is. Devastating. Not Every family is set up to have a parent at home that can do e learning with their kid if we just send videos Haman expect parents to take on the Bretton of the teaching at home were putting huge burden on families, which is really not fair. There are families that are not able to communicate with us at all. Whether that means, a phone has been shut off. being out of work might mean that. You can't pay your phone bill if a family can't communicate with the teacher. We can't expect any from the teacher to be getting to the student. Schools are hubs for so many different things. We provide hot breakfast and lunch daily and a lot of our kids day after school for afterschool program Na get a hot meal in the late afternoon early evening, too, so that's three meals a day that kids community missing out on of school closures cutting out long lady got and figuring out how to make things actually equitable I don't think that we should not do remote learning. But I think we need to keep that in the forefront of our minds. You just saw the video. Tony, a turn to you not a new issue by any means, but obviously more acute. If you will given what's going on, how do we fix the digital divide? Whichever sounds like a great teacher and appreciate what she said. We're doing the same thing here. I announced a task force on closing. The digital divide because of the pandemic denies that our schools went into distance learning, literally overnight and I want to applaud them for how resilient they were, but yeah, there was some bumps in many of our students didn't have access to the internet or to computing devices. We literally had leaned in and put pressure on whoever. Whoever needed to talk to to get Internet service providers to provide free Internet reduce costs Internet to hundreds of thousands of students. We've helped to deliver over one. Hundred thousand mobile hotspots were almost to another one hundred thousand computing devices just in the last few weeks, being delivered to our students, and we're still asking for more. Our bottom line is we have three pillars first and foremost keep our kids safe second address the mental health needs of our. Our students in third, we have to make sure that we are addressing quality of learning, and that means that we're gonNA. have some standards around distance learning for families who choose to have it? We're going to provide a quality education Make sure that you also know. We're also working to address our students concerns around trauma around these incidents. They're seeing around police brutality in the impact of race. As we speak, we are rolling out a new initiative to. To make sure that is implicit bias. Training in all of our schools do that virtually or in class, but we know that our students coming back to school in a way where the world different than they've ever seen. We've got to support their social emotional learning needs, and so those were three pillars. We're making sure we provide those things for our students at points made on both fronts Addison. Are you thinking about the same sorts of things tonight? S are all that aligns the growing needs of our community. We learn when this pandemic. I lot that our school district inequities truly exist and we had to go out. At Two hundred twenty thousand students give out those forty thousand digital device in the devices. Just wasn't the end all they didn't have the ability connected. They can activity to be able to get on the learning process so between looking at Internet service providers, providing white thousands of Wifi hotspots in our community. We also went over and beyond and make certain that we extended packets to. Say they wanted to have a pencil paper packets, so they had multiple options to extend and dry through the learning process and This is ever-growing. We looked at the heat maps and related to reduce love lunch, learning determine what the actual needs are. We also looked at pockets of Arts married. That didn't even have the infrastructure. The dark fiber to be had that connection so Adam plans to be able to address learners in that same time we talked about the you know we just. Talked about being able to to serve our children for. Breakfast and Lunch Opportunities Avenue Tristesse Mills. We gave out five point five million meals in a twelve week span and That just shows the growing need of our community, but I agree you know. Coming back is an all about returning is about. We address the mental health side of the work, but also not only only dressing implicit bias, the being able to retrain our students and our teachers about cultural relevance, and how we incorporate that in our curriculum everyday gentlemen. I appreciate the time very much Tony Thurman Addison Davis. We'll see you soon. And? Here's what's coming up next on this CNBC special report? Tonight. The top ranked us. Pro On what's next for tennis? After Kobe nineteen hits the sports top star Novak Djokovic. We're back in two minutes. We're back with major news. Shaking the sports world tonight, tennis superstar Novak Djokovic testing positive for Covid nineteen after playing a tournament he's. And quarantined in his native Serbia tonight it's comes two and a half weeks before the start of the world team tennis season at beginning in West Virginia and event that is slated to allow fans in the stadium Carlos Silva is. CEO Sam Query top ranked American player gentleman. Good to have you both. Thanks for having US Sam. Your reaction to this news about a year Novak Djokovic. You know I think they were trying to do something ago. They were trying to bring sport back. They were trying to kind of I. Think it was tied to a charity over there. I think it may have to do it again. They would have not had the player party I. Thank you. Guys saw an and so many fans in the handshakes, and they didn't do a great job of of the social distancing bang and so if if they could do it over I think they would do the event again, but just be more conscious of. You know, maybe having just the players know arty and and sports and comeback in that manner. Just know I think the way they did it was, did you? Does it give you the SAM pause and how you're thinking about your own progression here as the tennis season is still trying to get underway. We are expected to have a US, open as we found out last week. None at all you know, look I I. Don't want players and tournaments to overreact. What happened? We saw last week in golf. I think Nick Watney Guy a positive tests. The tournament still went on. We're supposed to come back for official tournament. Play in Washington, D. C.. In about six weeks of it's still a lot of time in the meantime, we've world team tennis coming up here in about a month, and they've done an incredible job of. You know we haven't gotten there yet, but we're all going to take tests for their. There's going to be a separate check for the players. The fans are going to have their temperatures. Check, so there's a way to bring these tournaments back in world tennis, especially doing a really good job in prepar and everyone and hopefully put out a good plan for the. The players and the fans be safe. You have a big Carlos Responsibility. Don't you? July twelfth to August second? You got sixty players. He got twenty coaches. You have about one hundred more staff and personnel. How are you thinking through the issues? Many of which Sam just talked about. You have a lot to deal with fans and that amount of people there. We do and you're right. Sam Did just touch on many of those items, but we've been working on it for quite a long time. You know we've been on White House. Briefings, we've been through all the medical where we're colleagues with the with the sports community, and we've all been in touch with each other, so we understand what the PGA tour is doing in the NBA and everybody, and I think that's really helped and and I think we've chosen the right place. In West, Virginia the Cova incidents. Incidents rate has been very low there and I think we're GONNA put all of those procedures in place, and like I've told Sam and the players. You and we've told all of our staff. We've gotta be diligent every single day as we get today one on July twelfth all the way till till August second when we have the finals live on CBS, and so it's. It's something that you gotta work through every day. It's the same thing we've gotta do in our in our daily lives as well. Why have fans at all? Given the risk? Albeit what you may think is is small. It's still going to be there if you're inviting outsiders in to watch this event. Well. We're going to be at the Greenbrier in West Virginia the greenbrier. Business, so we all go to the greenbrier today. The greenbrier West Virginia said that they're allowing people when they're restaurants that we could allow some fans in the stadium, the stadium, twenty five hundred people were going to put five hundred people in the stands. We're GONNA socially distanced and just yesterday. We also announced that we also changed one of our criteria and we're going to have fans also wear masks in the stance. That's something that we. We felt that with everything going on that to be a little bit safer is is only a smart thing, do so we announce that yesterday as well Sam lastly. Can you just put into perspective? What this has been like? The. Tennis career is is not necessarily all that long. It's hard to miss big money events. of You eat what you kill in the sport, and if you don't have these huge events, top player like you can make a lot of money in the short timeframe you have. How do you deal with that? You know you just gotTa look. Everyone's dealing with it whether you're tennis player, you work in a restaurant You know you're you're you're a salesman? Everyone struggling right now and and for me, you know this is my fourteenth year on tour so I don't know how many more years I have left, you know. Maybe it's two three four years, so it is a bummer to Misa another Wimbledon because I only have left like you said. fortunately, my wife and I my or my wife, you know we have a four month old at home, so I've got to spend every day at home with a with a new little baby, and normally as tennis player I would have been on the road and missile early days, so that's kind of in the the silver lining for me, personally at least that I've got to be home every day with a little boy, but. I'm just hoping that these tournaments can get back up and running and world seat. Tennis is a great first start like you said. The US Open is doing everything they can, and they're. They're gonNA move forward and half the tournament, which I'm personally so excited about. I think the other players are excited and hopefully. You know at the end of the day. It's going to work and we can. You socially exist in and and things will move forward in a positive way. Certainly hope so as a Tennis Fan Myself Gentlemen thank you for being here. Carlos Silva Best of luck with this event will certainly be paying attention and Sam Corey Best of luck to you as well. Thank you all right. There's a lot more ahead on this CNBC. Special report. Straight ahead. A popular travel adviser on destinations starting to see some real pickup. Before the break our world on the one hundred seventy seven day of the pandemic. We're back the European. Union gearing up to reopen its borders on July first, but Americans may be banned from entering the New York Times reporting tonight. E you authorities don't believe us. Leaders have the virus under control. It hasn't stopped travelers though from booking other destinations this summer Matthew Churches, CEO and Chairman Virtuoso it's a global travel network starts to have you here. To be here Scott. Where are we seeing? An uptick where do people WANNA go. Well travel is reopening in phases, and it's opening I in a Dr Dr Markets so particularly properties that are in the mountains. The beach is open spaces of the first places that we're seeing. A lot of interest, in fact, some of our some of our. Best our. Hotels like the montage public in South Carolina places. They're actually almost sold out for the summer. So. You're actually finding tolerance for staying in a fairly decent size hotel. That's somewhat surprising to me. Yeah I think the reality is there's a tremendous amount of pent up demand, and if you think about it, you know there are people are venturing out to those places where they feel comfortable. We're also starting to see some air travel. People are getting more more. More flights have been put in place by Jetblue by Delta American and that's starting to happen, but I do think that does locations that have more space nature, etc, are are very popular, and it's also important to remember that a lot of properties are not opening up at full capacity, so they are doing things. Ensure that there's appropriate. Social, distancing and health protocols. What about these border restrictions that we're seeing reports about? How's that going to impact travel going forward? Well you know I'm really glad you asked that because I. Think one of the things that people need to understand is that the the travel industry is the world's largest service industry and one of the things that is absolutely necessary for its recovery is to have a global. Alignment from governments as we were talking about the EU for example. And how do we have the right protocol so that we're able to do that? Appropriately because consumer confidence, is it only the pandemic, but it's also the ability to understand you know what what I can expect, and and the type of border closings or not that they're gonna be in place quickly. Travel as we ever knew it as we as we know it or new way. Does it ever going to come back? You know it will come back. It'll come back very strong our advisers right now it's it's amazing. They're things that are counterintuitive. For example were a huge seller of the of cruises, and a lot of people have sensationalized that never coming back in the reality is those clients that that have cruised in the past? Are January sales year-over-year? Right? Now are up seven percent, and that's with January this year being increase a really great year, so there's a lot of pent up demand there's. There's a lot of people out there and savvy travellers. You know those that used their advisers that have the connections and things they're the ones that are actually taking advantage of the relaxed cancellation policies. Because that way, they can make sure that they got the right places. The best places particularly in a world where there may be some limited capacity going forward interesting will follow it. Thank you, Matthew. It's good to talk to you tonight. That's Matthew Upchurch with us. We'll be right back. Our nightly shout out Papa Georgia's hotdogs in Newport. News Virginia Rosie's twin kegs in Nashville. The Verizon Pizza Shop and half Moon Bay California Papa Chicken. Shop Bloomington Illinois pee wee's crabcakes in New Orleans that does it for US Scott Wapner stay safe and shark tank his next. This NBC PODCAST is sponsored by Capital Group home of American funds. 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"Darien rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feet update for may seventh. I'm heroes. Turn Armstrong and today. Not going to be updating you on what happened yesterday. Not even going to be updating you on what happened with Danes game on big of the Kennedy seven because I'm here to update you don't happen with Anthony's game. Across the whole season. Big brother, Canada seven. We're gonna have some fun some fun. Anthony's game on big brother candidates. Evan from from day one. When he walked in with a Bergonzi burgundy suit looking fly to. They sixty nine when he walks out with I guess, some other colored suit also looking fi. I'll be good. So here we go. Here we go. Let's do this. I'm here. I'm gonna go through Anthony's game from start to finish. Or at least as close to finish as we can get leading into the finale, you can join me in the chat here on YouTube and ask some questions along the way if possible if you could keep your questions to the current time period that we are currently talking about that regret. And then questions for the end game. We can save for when when we talk about the end, so. Let's do this talk about Anthony. Preseason. Anthony was not exactly high on anyone's draft board. Most people's Jeff were at the very least. He was I believe. Last on my now, I think I'd Mackey last. He was very low on my draft board not a lot of people had much faith in Anthony. And one of the reasons for that is that he had a very strange interview with. Where seemed uncomfortable and issues like what are we on this on the bachelor or something like what's happening here? Why are you hitting on me like this and? And the news. He's being weird as weird. And you know, what in many ways our predictions about Anthony word true? It's just that. While most people who have Anthony's personality failed dramatically. Anthony saw great success. And there are still sometimes when I watch him on the feeds where he is acting in the way that made I feel uncomfortable. And I feel like why aren't these people feeling uncomfortable? Why are they listening to what he's saying? But they do they listen to him. There's I think there's a fine line between Anthony's personality being so alpha so domineering, and and the kind of player that just falls so flat so fast in many seasons. And. Anthony, walks that line on the right side of it. The correct side of it the one that is is successful. And I think that you know. Ninety nine times out of one hundred when you see somebody like Anthony preseason, he's probably going to fail. But Anthony Anthony did not and he had a lot of success across the season. So let's start here in a week one day one Anthony walks into the house burgundy suit, look and fly conflict. He does not do any fist bumps, but he is brought into the pretty boys as soon as he walks into the house, and this is probably despite everything that happens with Anthony across the season. The biggest moment of Anthony's game because I truly think that that this was incredibly important and probably necessary for Anthony's game that he was brought into the pretty boys. He knew very little about the show coming in. And as I said that fine line with Anthony's personality. I think that he would have found success in the game without the pretty boys. But I do not think he would have had it nearly the amount of success as he did without the pretty boys. They not only helped teach him the strategy of the game. But they also help to protect him in some of these early rounds when he might have been a lot more vulnerable. Otherwise. So this was a big lucky break for him. But he utilized it to its maximum potential. And so that's Anthony it was able to to learn the game on easy mode in some in some regards because of this formula that the brigade perfected back in season twelve day too. He bonded with Dane they talked about their lives Dane felt like they had a really good connection. Anthony did as well. They made a final two within the pretty boys that it's always going to be those two those two against the world and the world Adam is going to win that I h he he's going to nominate Damian and Laura Anthony wanted Damian to go Anthony versus Damian is kind of a season-long feud, and it's one sided it's it's almost like Stephen Becky did Damian. Just never rubbed. Anthony, the right way and Anthony is always going to make sure that he vetos any Damian involvement in any alliances and isolates Damian from any potential allies. I mean, we talked a lot about how Damian has done nothing. The game. People talk about that. All the time looking back at Anthony's game. Anthony had a lot to do with that anytime anybody wanted to work with Damian Anthony cut it off at the knees before it could happen. So something to think about Anthony wanna Damian to leave. I do feel like he held a grudge in this first week the fact that he did not get his way. He would he wanted Damian to go over Laura he wanted Laura to stay. He liked Laura. You liked Laura, but Sam had too much pull with Adam. And with the house at large, and so he had to give in and Laura is going to be the one to go, and he had to let that happen. And I think for the rest of the season he is going to hold a little bit of a grudge for Sam for making that happen and against Damian for being the recipient of that move on. Fortunately, we didn't see it on the field. So I can't tell you that much about it. But but I do feel like this is one of the primary motivators for Anthony throughout the game. Now, Anthony is part of this tentative group of nine between the all four pretty boys. Sam Chelsea Kaelin, KiKi and SD. But of course, it doesn't doesn't really go anywhere. This this group of nine. Anthony also bonds with Kaelin in this first week and has mostly positive relationships with most of the house. People feel generally good about him at this point in time. So so that's that's interesting stacked wants to know. Do you think Anthony would have tried to show Mance, Laura, I believe Anthony did mention something like Laura maybe being a little bit of his type, but he also has something going on. So I don't know if he would have tried to show Mansor, but I do think he kind of liked her. And that's one of the reasons why he was not happy to see her go. So Laura does go Laura is a victim and Anthony is a vote to Victor unanimous vote. So that's that's where that happened week two Dane is going to win the h h he wants to put up Kira and Mackey. This is also when Corrie enters house, Anthony plots with deign to get rid of Sam if they have the opportunity this week Anthony already wants to get rid of Sam is already something that needs to happen. She has too much influence last week. She has too much power in the house. Sam is a target for Anthony, and he is plotting with Dane, it is Anthony Dane at this point who are running the show. Calin approaches Anthony with a theory through at some point during the week a theory because Kaelin had tried to pitch Dane that Mark should go on the block instead of Mackey here in week two. And Dane was like, nah, don't wanna do that. And caylin thinks Dane must secretly be working with Mark. And Adam because he's also trying to protect Adam in the atom versus Sam to bay. And so she tells Anthony this Anthony's interesting interesting theory, Ceylan, let me think about it. He then, of course, let's Adam and Dane know about Kaelin's theory, and and this really starts atoms quest to discredit and target Kaelin which will come into play in the following week. So Anthony, then spends more time he doesn't have to do much. He's got a great relationship with Danny's completely safe. So it's mostly just positioning and maneuvering trying to make sure that Sam goes home. He works on his relationship with Chelsea and tries to flip her away from Sam, but does not find much success in this particular plan. He does Anthony does a lot of like he kind of has a shotgun approach in many ways where where Dane really was able to hone in on a lot of different people who were his allies for most of the season, Anthony, really spreads out as much as possible. He'd makes a lot of attempts at things, and he doesn't succeed with a lot of them. But the ones that he does he really digs in deep on. And then he focuses on those a lot. So it's like a wide approach that goes very narrow. Whereas Dane had a more balanced approach that stayed balanced the whole time. So it's very very. A contrasting styles of play here. So this is one of such attempts. He tries to get Chelsea to flip on Sam. So, of course, not gonna work, and we say, of course, but we've seen him do similar things with other people before so. That's I think that's one of the reasons why Anthony has so many crazy moves is that he's willing to try things that other people wouldn't even think to try that they'd be like, of course, that's not gonna work. And then he sometimes makes it work. But most of the time he doesn't. So Mackey is is on the block. He tells Anthony that atom needs to go Adam he's dangerous Adam needs to go. SD tells Anthony the same thing a lot of people talking about targeting at. So Anthony tries to make sure that the target is shifted onto Sam. When Anthony tells Adam, hey, I've protected you all game. This is what he means. He's always trying to make sure the target lands on Sam instead of Adam. But he does let them know that these people are saying is name that he's deflecting to make sure it goes onto Sam because Mackie is talking about targeting, Adam. He he starts to Anthony starts to get on board with the idea of. Okay. Maybe we maybe we need to let Mackey go prior to that. He was on board with keeping Mackey to go after Sam because Mackie was talking about Adam set of Sam he was like, I don't like that. Maybe maybe we should let Mackey go. Okay. Anthony also mentions here in week two after the veto is one by Adam that he wants to start pulling in Corey he feels like that somebody that he can work on. He doesn't make a lot of moves to do it yet. But he starts to lay the groundwork. He starts to have conversations with Corey. And so that's that begins here in week two. He also talks to Kaylynn about not a potentially not having the votes to keep Mackie because he's now onboard with potentially evicting maquis he tries to float the idea to Kaelin Kaelin shuts. It right down Kaelin is having none of it. She's like, no. We have the votes. Don't you dare flip? And so that is going to be like, whoa. Okay. He's starting to he has a very close relationship with Kaelin up until this point. But I think he starts to realize that she is going to be hard to manipulate. And that's that's dangerous for him. So Anthony does that this point agreed to take out Mackey because he is threatening. And he is gunning for Adam. And so with Anthony calm the rest of the pretty boys. Dane reluctantly agrees to this that Mackey will leave. Anthony also is going to work on Eddie who he has a good relationship with at this point in time. They talk about watching each other's backs that they're good with each other. And he he's hell's that. He I'm gonna make sure you're not on the wrong side of this. I'll let you know which way if falls, and so that's a very important relationship that is going to eventually deteriorate as well. But right now, it's very strong. They're really talking to each other about about the vote and Anthony is trying to help Eddie out to make sure he's on the right side of things. So so. Anthony and Dane are talking and even though Kaelin is maybe hard to manipulate even though she's talking about the guys working with each other. They still would prefer Kaelin over Sam. And they know that Kaelin is gunning for salmon, that's why they wanna keep Kaelin around. They feel like Kaelin and Sam are two sides of the same coin and caylin is on their side and Sam Adams side. So what they would hope to do is keep Kaelin safe and get Sam out then go after Kaelin because that would be the best way forward for them. And again, it's those two together working in tandem here more so than the pretty boys in this, particular instance. So. SD is going to talk to Mackie after Dane tells ST that Mackey is probably gonna leave as like, no as goes to Mackey. She tells him what to say say your going after Sam that's what people want to hear machi- says. Okay. He talks to Anthony. He says I'm going after Sam Anthony says that's what I want to hear Anthony goes to Dane, and he says, alright never mind. Let's keep Mackie. I like this Mackie's going after Sam this is good. They go to Adam Adams, like, no, I don't like this. I don't want. I don't want this. I want to want machi- you say want to stay like sorry, bro. It's gotta be Macki Macki staying here. But then as I talked about yesterday with Danes game Mackie shoves several feet into his mouth and keeps talking. He tells Dane at various points that he's going to put Dane up. He tells other people that he's going to put Anthony up. And then he tells Anthony that he told other people that he's putting Anthony Anthony, why would you say that man, I'm disappointed in you. Then Anthony goes to ST and says STI I don't know about this Mackie's now saying he's going to put me on the block and ST tells Anthony don't worry about it. I control Mackey he won't actually put you up. I will tell him what to do. And he'll do it. Now is the worst thing you could have said to Anthony because Anthony Ben goes to Dane and says this is no good Mackie's a puppet. And I don't know if he's my puppet seems like he's ST's puppet. He's saying my name T says that she controls him. That's not good. We can't work with the puppet. Like that. He's too threatening machi- needs to go. Daines? No, I don't care. That's fine. Mackey should stay Mackie's going after Sam come on. Anthony, Anthony pushes and pushes. And Dana Venturi relents saying, okay, fine. We'll keep machi- around. We'll Vic Mackey. Anthony, then gives Eddie the heads up Mackey is in fact, leaving he said my name I have to vote him out. And he says, okay, I'll vote him out. Should I tell Kaelin and these no don't tell Kaelin don't tell Kaelin. So so he doesn't and then we get here. And Chelsea once Anthony finally hops onboard for real they celebrate with Anthony that he's staying Anthony. He's developed a good relationship with them. They feel very grateful to Anthony. He's going to help them stay or help and day. So now, we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. Then we get to the vote. And we know what happens here Kaelin ends of flipping Eddie and Damian at the last minute, and it becomes a five five tie Dane breaks the tie to Vic Mackey breaking his word and Anthony wasn't fact vote to Vic Mackey, but the fact that Kaelin flip those votes is very very bad for Anthony, actually because Kaelin and Eddie were to allies of his that he could've used moving forward. And this is going to really. A line between them that will be hard to cross back over. And as we start talking about Anthony and potential jury votes in the end, we definitely have to look at people like Eddy people like Kaelin that he was forced to lose pre jury that might have been votes for him. If they had made the jury and his inability to control them, or at least get them on board, or at least have them win competitions is going to be one factor when it comes to getting them to jury getting jury vote. So that's something to think about as we go here. So. Heading into week three. Nobody would target Anthony. If they won the h he is completely safe at this point is currently working with the pretty boys. And Dane Dane as a final two pretty boys as a group collective he has good relationships with Chelsea Kaelin, Eddie and Kira, although those are going to start to shift a little bit. He is neutral with KiKi ST Damien and Corey at this point in time, those will also shift, and he is at the moment targeting Sam targeting Sam, he wants Sam to go. However, Chelsea is going to win this H and Sam is going to be safe. So. Chelsea wants to back door Kaelin. This is partly the work of Adam. Calin did not do herself any favors Kaelin and Kira had been getting into some fights Chelsea is obviously close to Kira. So by proxy, Chelsea is going to be a bit against Kaelin as is Sam and an atom, of course, has been feeding into that ever since he found out that Kaelin has been talking about a guys thing and the Kaelin is coming for him. So the plan is toback door Kaelin. It's at this point that Anthony decides, you know, what I can't get Sam out. I guess I guess we have to let momma k go. I I love her. I want to work with her. But we gotta we gotta let her go. She has been talking about the guys working together. She did just flip those votes to work against as she is dangerous to leave in the house as he talked about Sam and caylin really two sides of the same coin. And if they can't get out Sam than than they probably have to get out Kaelin. So that's that's okay with Anthony. Anthony, and Chelsea really going to have an interesting relationship throughout the week. They really flirt around the idea of like working together, Anthony prods Chelsea he knows about the plan to backdoor Kaelin, and Chelsea doesn't tell him for a while. And so he tries to give her openings to tell him to make sure that she knows that she can trust him. And she eventually does tell him the plan after awhile, and they really start to build something that gets interrupted when Kira finally goes to Chelsea and says, I feel like Anthony is a little bit sketchy. But we'll talk about that later in the week of week three. So in the meantime, Damian and KiKi are gonna go up on the block this one. Chelsea finally lets Anthony on the plan Anthony tells Chelsea that Kaylynn, she's very manipulative. And she's like Chucky the doll Chucky. Scary. ST is going to talk to Anthony about how much she doesn't like Mark Anthony gives Mark a heads up which is going to sketch them out a little bit. But they're not going to blame Anthony for it. They're gonna blame Dane for a little bit. And Adam to some extent. Calin is going to talk with Eddie. And this is like so this this whole thing happened last week. And they told Eddie votes are not there Mackey will be voted out vote Mackey out. Don't tell Kaelin Kaelin then flipped maquis maquis hoped. There was a chance the Dane would break the tide to Vic Kira it did not happen. And so Eddie was a little bit sketched out by that whole situation. He tells Kaelin he trusts Kayla more he tells Kaelin hey last week. And then he told me not to tell you about the vote, and how Mackey was going to be leaving and caylin says, I don't care. I don't mind I trust Anthony. And I liked that he has connections on the other side. I like that he he's with those people you can help protect us safe. So Kaelin felt good about Anthony in that moment. But but any did not and Anthony is going to learn and either a read on or be told from Kaelin herself that Eddie is starting to have doubts about him. And that is going to like I said the teary rate that relationship. So Anthony is at this point starting to get concerned about SDN KiKi. He feels like they might be forming and all women alliance. Dane reassures him. It's not gonna happen. I've got them unlock. Don't worry worry. Anthony is finally going to start making the moves on Corey pulling her closer. And like I said he was laying the groundwork the week before and here in week three. He really starts to pull her in closer. He tells her that Sam gunning for her. He says that Sam is dangerous. He wants to make sure she is anti Sam we talked about this in week three on the life. Feed updates about how this is. This is potentially dangerous for Anthony. He's really going out on a limb turning her against Sam. If this gets back to Sam Anthony could be caught. But it does not go back to stem. He says Sam is basically Kaylynn that hasn't been caught yet. And Corey eats it up. She explains that she has been trying to lie low in this game. But she is feels like she is found. And a friend in Anthony Kira? And Chelsea this is when they're finally going to talk a talk about Anthony, and how he likes to play the mentor role and influence people to go after each other the cause of this is that Anthony tried talking with Kierra and tried separating Kira from ADEMA little bit. But cure, trusted, Adam too much. And so they found that to be a bit sketchy wise Anthony trying to turn against Adam. That's really sketchy. He always likes to play the mentor. He's trying to turn people against each other. So Kira goes to Chelsea explains that Chelsea says, well, I feel good with Anthony. But I wonder if everyone feels that way maybe he does play the mentor role. Maybe he is sketchy me is trying to influence people to go after each other. Chelsea goes to Adam Adam, what do you think about this? Do you think that Anthony is sketchy? I kind of feel like he plays the mentor role in tries to influence people to go after each other and Adams like, Nah, I think he's cool and Chelsea's like, oh, please don't tell anyone I told you that. And I was like, I'm not gonna tell you. Of course, not please, please, I'm begging you don't tell anyone I told you that I'm not gonna tell anyone. And then Adam goes and tells Anthony that Chelsea things sketchy and. Chelsea said to him. Bad news bears for Chelsea. So Anthony also tries to turn Adam against Sam. Because Dane told him that KiKi told him that she overheard. Sam say that she needs to needs to get rid of Adam eventually. And if that's confusing to you good. Doesn't work. Like, I said shocking approach lots of this things don't work. But when they do they work they work. Well, he also floated the idea that Damian is coming for Adam which is something that Adam should think about this is Anthony recognizing how much Kaelin does trust him and thinking about potentially flipping the vote. He's never really liked me. And so it would be great. If you could get Daming this week and keep Kaelin Kaelin would be so grateful to him. You would have Kaelin as a number and again, more importantly as a person on the jury, which could be all he needs. This might have been the mistake here to to let Kaelin go. So Anthony, he tries to float this idea to Adam Damien is coming for you Adam runs to Chelsea about it, he talks to Sam they both still want Kaylynn to go. Even if Damion is coming after him and Dame, Dane and Anthony are very frustrated with Adam that he keeps running to those women. They're too close, and they need to separate him from those women so Adam in the meantime, is going to be very frustrated with Anthony he's trying to turn them against Sam. Like what's happening, then he's mad at him for going Chelsea when he told him to go to Chelsea like Adam is kinda done with with Anthony in this moment. And this is what we talked about yesterday about Danes game. Dane liked to play the diplomat like play the middle in the pretty boys. Anthony was firmly on one side, and and Adam was on the other in this spot. And it's going to be a contentious relationship for most of the season. This is also when Sam over hears, Dane and. Adam talking about the pretty boys, and this is when they catch onto the fact that there's probably guys alliance. They think that Anthony must be on it the kind of doubt themselves, but for now they they've discovered the secret. And the pretty boys are dead. How can they how can they move forward? Now can't happen. Deign works on SDN KiKi to make sure that they're good with Anthony. And so Anthony starts moving in on that group in that alliance. And this is Anthony is starting to really seriously consider flipping the vote to keep Kaelin. He can if he wants he talks to Corey about it and Corey is on board. He he's fully pulled Corey in at this point. I literally have in my notes as early as week three. I wrote Corey seems firmly. Anthony's pocket at this point. So there you go week three the Kaelin vote. That's when Anthony one hundred percent had Corey on lock by this by this time. So and then approaches KiKi STO flipping the vote and convinces them to go along with it. If you want if he decides to he can convince KiKi nasty Votto Damian, and he is on he likes that he's but he's still on shore. He's not sure he's not sure if it's worth exposing the exposing himself as a power broker by keeping Kaelin here. So he causes a little bit of chaos. The next morning. He needs to convince Adam that if this flip goes through that this is what Adam wants to. He tells Adam, hey, I was talking to KiKi nasty last night. And they said Damion is coming for you Adams like oh my God. So. Adam runs around he talks today. Meany talks to Ceylan the vote looks like it might flip. But it does not. Eventually Anthony Bax down, and and he agrees. Okay, fine. We'll get rid of Kaelin, but we're not bringing Damian. We're not doing that. Because Adam wants to bring him in. He says, well, here's what we'll do. We'll go to Damian. We'll bring him in to the guys thing and the news like nano will key. We'll get rid of Kaelin, but we're not bringing Damian. So as I mentioned before Anthony's also recognizing that Eddie is becoming a threat that they need to start looking at their relationship has deteriorated in the week since since the machi- vote, and he knows that he has been talking about him. So that's bad. News bears for Eddie and caylin is going to be visited this week. And Anthony did in fact vote to Victor so into week four Sam and Kira might actually target Anthony if they won at the age this week and buy target Anthony. I mean, put him on the block probably. But basically here Sam or Kira if they had one this H wage and Sam did come quite close. Sam probably would have put up Dane and Anthony and Anthony actually probably would go home next to Dane in that spot. So he is very lucky that Sam did not end up winning this one in Dame beat her in that final buzzer push. Because this was one of the more dangerous spots for Anthony in the game after being caught in the alliance. And and the women really about to potentially take shot at the guys. I do think Anthony would have been the one to take that bullet because they did not know that Mark was part of it yet. They only knew Adam Dane, and Anthony and so. They were not going to target atom of that group. They probably would have put Dane Anthony on the block. And Anthony probably would have been the one to go home in that spot. So luckily didn't happen. Sam did not win for Anthony at this point in time. He is working with the pretty boys. He's working with Dane, he's got Cory. He's working Cory and he's also working with KiKi SD. And Dane, so he's now feeling he's not he's not working with a lot more people. And like I said this this working with list can vary quite dramatically throughout the game. With with Anthony. He's kind of neutral with Damian. He's not on great terms with Chelsea Sam cure or Eddie, all of those people starting to look at Anthony a little bit sideways. So this is not the greatest week for him, position wise. But as I said, luckily, Dane is gonna win this h h Anthony in this week is targeting Sam he's targeting Chelsea. He's targeting Eddie. Those are his three main targets here. Sam obviously, the primary one, but he's also starting to look at Chelsea a lot because of what Adam told him about Chelsea not trusting him, and he recognized that he when he was flirting around with the working with Chelsea maybe thing you recognize that Chelsea was hard to manipulate. Now. I've seen a lot of people like oh, Anthony he's playing against weak players. That's the only reason that he is manipulating them. If he tried to manipulate people to speak to people from big candidates six the way, he speaks to Kira than it would never work, and they'd never be manipulated. But I think that to counter that argument you have to look at how he spoke to Chelsea in week three because he recognized that he couldn't speak to Chelsea the way that he spoke to cure he approached Chelsea in an entirely different manner. And he was very very cautious. And what he does. He pokes around the exterior. He finds the weakness he presses the weakness he uses it to exploit you. He then mentors. You and helps heal you from that from that weakness. And in the meantime, he is he's manipulating you. And so I think that the idea that he is just this blunt force that only works on week people. I don't think so I think that he was able to work on all kinds of people throughout the season like Chelsea like Kaelin, like Kira, even like, no, Mark. And some of these other guys Adam really was the only the only person that never fully bought into what Anthony said, but even then and Adam did Adam was manipulated by Anthony at various points in the game. So I never mind I take that back. Everybody was manipulated by Anthony at one point in time through various methods of manipulation not always just the most obvious versions of it. So something to point out there. So Danewin's the H wage him and Anthony immediately conspire and they discussed targeting Sam as the back door, and they're gonna lie to Adam about it in Mark is usually left out of these planning sessions. Like, I said, it's always Dane an Anthony at least up until this point. He also talks about ST wanting Sam out. He he talks to starting to as about how ST wants Sam she's pump. She's like, yes, we're gonna get Sam out of the game. The next day after the h. And these starts to have second thoughts about Sam goes to date. And he says, you know, what Sam actually is beneficial to us. She's a big target. And she helps hide the pretty boys. And it might not be best for us to be the ones to take her out. That's make Atta mad. I think we can convince other people to do it for us. I think that we can get somebody else to take the shot at Sam. Meanwhile, Chelsea is a threat to us. Maybe we should actually take Chelsea out this week and let somebody else do the targeting on Sam Dane says no no, I want Sam gone. I don't like that. So all right. Just thought. Adam. In the meantime, is still very frustrated with Anthony from the week before Anthony's still trying to get him to target Sam to let Sam go home. And he is venting that frustration out on Mark. And this is a great moment for Mark and his eventual relationship with Anthony Mark tells Adam look, I know you're frustrated with Anthony and things easy to manipulate. Because all you need to do is pretend to be manipulated by Anthony. And then you'll be in his good graces and he's easy to manipulate from there. Now at the time. I think a lot of us myself included felt like Mark was onto something that Anthony Anthony definitely was easy to manipulate in the sense that if you pretended to be manipulated by him that that things would be it would be good that he would like you. And he would want to keep you around and all that stuff. Turns out not the case not the case as Mark. We'll find out at the final five Anthony actually is not easily persuaded by that tactic in. He usually is able to catch onto the fact that you are not actually manipulated by him. If you are not. So he was able to sniff out that Mark was not loyal to him. Even though Mark pretended to be for quite a while. What are you going to do? SDN KiKi talk about the possibility of guys alliance here in week four they keep trying to target all the women over atom. What's up with that? Sketchy. It'd be smarter them to have guys lines. Would we smart? But you know, what we trust we trust? Anthony, we like those two they're working for us. So it doesn't matter you like. Like. Chelsea and Kira? Go up on the block, Dane puts them up. He's still wants to back door Sam. So that's the plan Kira tries to catch Adam running info to Dane, and this is this is a big moment for Chelsea's game because curious exceeds, and you know, they catch Adam running information to Dane, and then they kind of let it slip that that they think the guys are working together that Adam and Dane are working together some kind of guys thing. And Anthony goes I got this. He uses that information to plant the target back on Chelsea with. Dane, he says if Kira is talking about guys the lines, you know, that's coming from Chelsea Chelsea has to go Dane, finally relents and says, okay, we'll get rid of Chelsea instead of Sam this week. We'll do it your way. So once again, Anthony is going to get his way. ST at this point says to the cameras KiKi is my number one Dane is my number two Anthony is my number three. Number three, Anthony. Adam tries to get the target placed on Kira instead of Chelsea. But Anthony won't have it and will not let it happen. Cory is gonna win the veto. She consults Anthony about what to do. He tells her to talk to Dane and use it to get closer to him to help forge that relationship and get cure in closer to Dane, he likes having his allies working together. So that he doesn't have to turn on any of them. Anthony, then let Mark know that Damien is dangerous. Eddie needs to go soon. Had he Eddie. You can't be brought back into the fold things are not looking good for Eddie. Deign tells the cameras that he is true to his final two with Anthony. They are getting together on the regular and discussing their final two plans. They've been doing that all the way through this week in past weeks. And Dane is talking to the cameras telling them that this is genuine that Anthony is has guy. It's going to be Dane and Anthony it's gonna be fantastic. And he tries to tell Damien the Dana. Anthony, tried to flip the vote against him the week before Damian does not believe him. He trusts Dane Corey helps cover for Dane, Anthony when Damien asks her about it Bamyan tells Dane about this who tells Anthony who only takes this to be further confirmation that he needs to get rid of Eddie soon, very soon Sam I than. So then. Anthony is going to be working on Kira throughout the week. This is really the beginnings of Anthony's. True work with Kerr. He did have a decent relationship with Keira the week before. But he really starts to. He really tries to keep that going here with Keira maintain a good enough relationship with them at this point in time. Especially because he is going to be a vote to keep cure in the game. So he he's working on that relationship there in the same bedroom together. So that helps them as well Chelsea is then going to victim Anthony is in fact, a vote to Victor, and we have a double of action. Fiction in the double vision. If Sam won the double of she might nominate Anthony, in fact, I think she would likely nominate Anthony if she won, and he would definitely go home if he was up against Dane, he would stay if he was up against Cory and. Of a toss up on what would happen there definitely could have gone home in this double of action. It is a possibility. It is a possibility more likely that Corey goes home, but but he could have gone home here. And these things matter when we're comparing Dane and Anthony's game because I do feel like Dane was a lot safer in these spots. At this point in time. He's working when the pretty voices work deign, Dane, working with Cory and he's working with KiKi ST. And Dane as a group. Here's a good relationship with Kira? He's neutral with Damian. He's not on great terms with Sam or Eddie. Targeting Sam secondarily, targeting Eddie, Adam is going to win h h he's gonna go home. Just like that one of his targets. Don, Anthony did vote Eddie out. Week five. Same same setup here. Still working with the same people still good with the same people not on great terms of Sam. But Eddie being gone is great and he's going to be targeting Sam. However Sam wins the h h. Now Sam wanted to put Anthony on the block. She did. She wanted to take a shot at Anthony and did not because Kira and Adam still, you know, we're like, hey, no, don't target. Anthony, don't put up Anthony don't put Anthony and Corey you should put up other people like KiKi, and maybe Mark whatever. Anthony is protected here from SAM's h h this could have been a bad spot for him. But but he is protected by Adam and Kira they tell Sam that Sam should build trust with Anthony that they can work with Anthony and Corey so Sam takes Anthony to Wendy's. And they talk about building trust Anthony is going to give Dane the heads up after the Wendy's talk and let him know what they talked about at Wendy's and says, hey, Mark is going to be going up on the block with KiKi. They once again reiterate their final two, they talk about you know, keeping Mark safe flipping the vote to keep him. If if necessary. Blood veto happens. People noticed that Corey ran straight to Dane and Anthony at that point during the blood veto that she was going to them basically for instructions, and that's the perception that Corey is being used by them, or at least is a tool for them is really spawning from this moment here with the blood veto. Sam and Kira are really talking about targeting guys. They really want to make sure a guy leaves this is due to s campaigning. Plus the knowledge that they have about the potential guys alliance. And so when they talk about potential guy targets Anthony is not one of them. Anthony has done good enough work with Sam and Kira that they both feel good about Anthony. They do not want Anthony to be targeted. If the worst happens, they eventually settle on Damian of all people because they think that Damian would need to leave as one of the guys. Boy. Adam and Dane are going to try and push for the Corey backdoor. Really want Corey be back toward Sam is initially reluctant because she doesn't want to make Anthony Matt but here after but but but eventually relents and says, okay, Adam will do we'll do the Corey backdoor. Then cure a tells Anthony about the Corey backdoor plan care doesn't really want it to happen. And cure things that they can get in further with Anthony Corey if they if they let Anthony no. And so once Anthony finds out he gets to work, he talks to Adam. And let him know how to get Sam on board takeout KiKi. He says the look you need. This is what you need to do at them and listens to him. He when he was able to manipulate adamant to keep in Corey around, and he convinces Adam to to convince Sam and through his words that Adam speaks Sam is convinced to take out KiKi and Kira. In the meantime, based on their conversation with Anthony feels like Anthony is anti Dene. And that the boys thing is cracked and. So they don't have to use the blood veto. They want KiKi to leave. This is magic that Anthony performs here this week that what he is able to do. It's ridiculous. First of many first of many. So the pretty boys do get into some fights here about about the side sidelines is who they're going to take the final five Anthony really sticks up for Corey. Deign really wants to be taken Adam and Mark would like Kira? And cure is kind of a nice secondary person for Anthony if Corey is not going to make it. So Anthony does stick up for cure a little bit as well. And so kind of three to one they agree cure as probably the best choice here. So. Dane is going to give Anthony heads up that s been saying his name, and it's because it's becoming clear to ST that Anthony is not on their side anymore. ST last week was saying Anthony was her number three Anthony is now in her bad book list thing. Target for the young bloods. Because she can tell that Anthony is not on their side. He's going to be voting KiKi out. She doesn't like that. So Dame gives Anthony the heads up there and ST is going to become a target for Anthony. Here. It's going to bond more with Corey and Anthony throughout the week. This is they tell them. Hey, it was deigned that convinced Adam to convince Sam to back door you, Cory. And then after cure leaves Anthony's like, nah, that's not what happened. There's more to that story. It was not Dane, I don't believe it was Dane. Dane and Anthony again reiterate their final they're talking about this a lot still Dane Anthony final two and these starts to work on Mark though. And this is because he is a little bit disappointed that Dane was because Anthony knows the Dane really was trying to get quarterback doored endanger, not tell him you still protecting Dane, but he's disappointed in Dane. And so this is a very clear starting point for the Mark. And Anthony relationship Anthony tells Mark, hey, the other guys they've been sketchy Adams been with Sam. And now Dane is really looking out for his best interests. He wants to KiKi around this week. That's not good for us. Mark says I'm with you. I'm with you. I wanna get closer to Corey. And he says good I'll help you out. I like that. So this is this is Mark in some ways trying to manipulate Anthony to get closer to Anthony and use Anthony to to break up the pretty boys. That's what Mark would like to do. We know that Mark eventually gets caught Anthony's trap Anthony's web. But but for now, he thinks is a great opportunity. Anthony and Kira and Corey are going to bond even more like I said, they're in the same bedroom. Still and this is one they do their study session. They're really starting to bond as a trip a group of three that they're really a good together. Keira released feels good about their position game at this point. They really feel like they've turned Anthony Corey against Dane, they've got Sam and Adam against Dane, Adam Sam, Corey Anthony do make a deal before of them excluding Kira which care will be mad about later. But Anthony Corey say, we're not we're not going to stick to this deal. And he says, they're sketchy. We're you know, we're making deal with them for now. But we're not gonna stick to it. Cory gives Anthony heads up. The cure is trying to target Dane. And don't like, that's that's that's not. It's not great. But Corrie at this moment does not want to target Sam. She tells Anthony this I don't want to target Sam. She feels good about her relationship with Sam. And this is this this was genuine. This was real Corey is bonding with salmon this toward the end of this week. And really starting to feel good about Sam Anthony, of course, is going to turn that around over the next few days. But for now doesn't want to target. Anthony, also spends a lot of time trying to work on Damian this week, but doesn't really go anywhere. Damian is not very susceptible to Anthony's manipulation. And honestly thinking about Damien is probably the one person that Anthony was never truly able to manipulate. And that's one of the reasons why he was never very fond of Damian. You might actually say Eddie was another one of those people just because I mean, he was on Anthony side at one point. But as soon as he got a whiff of sketching is from Anthony he never went back that spelled doom but Damien was able to hang in there for a bit longer. But this week in particular Anthony's t tries a lot he tries very hard. He spends a lot of time working on Damian, but he doesn't really get anywhere. So can't shotgun approach. He also tries to get Adam to throw the next h which doesn't really work, and he also bonds with Kierra even more the they talk about the curious BB. They cure your starts really going to him for. Emotional support and stuff like that. They're very close at this point in time. So KiKi is going to be a victim here. Anthony does vote her out heading into week six once again, nobody will target Anthony if they win h h he is back on the side of everything good and happy. This is his strongest point in the game. He's working with the pretty boys. He's got a final two Dane with Corey he's working with Mark. He's working with Sam Adam and Corey he's also working with Kierra in Corey he's neutral with Damian. He's not on great terms with SD. But that's basically it his targets at this point are Sam Damian and and steal a little bit. So that's the current state of Anthony Corrie is gonna win this h h. Put some work in Dane, the heads up you need to sell to Corey that you had nothing to do with the back door plan. I'm going to help you out softener up. And so does he says to Corey, hey, Santa sketchy? She was probably the person who started this backdoor plan. I believe Dane incomes in finishes the job. He's got all these people. Corroborating his story all the stories lineup. Adam Sam and curious stories do not mine up. So that's not good for Sam. And he eventually lands on SD and Dane for the nominations of the plan to back door Sam. That's what Anthony has in store for Corrie's h. Corey goes to the Wendy's window and Dmitri tells her that. Never once doubted his partner on big brother, Canada five, and that staying loyal is a great thing. Be loyal. I man it's like you and me Anthony that'd be loyal to each other to the end. No doubts and things like, yeah. I like that. And then he starts planting seeds against Damian here here in week week six. Scenes against Damian with Corey make sure that he separates Corey from Damian. It's not good for naming Corey was his only real ally. Says Damon's too close to ST to close can't trust Damian. Can't trust. Anthony tells Cory this is a legendary move you're going to take Sam this is legendary this is really the beginning of of Anthony using this. As a manipulation tactic says legendary you're gonna be a legend, of course. Yeah. Going to be a legend like Dmitry. Anthony gives cure a pep talk. After a fight with Dane and encourages them to make up with him the seeds against Damian start to grow as Corey starts to recognize and see things that they weren't seeing before. Oh, I see him talk with all the time now and the New Year's totally right. Oh, wow. I can't believe I noticed something after you pointed it out even more. It's like it's almost like that's a psychological effect or something. Anthony spends a lot of time working here this week trying to make sure that he can retain them as a number even though he's about to blindside their closest ally. Does not work out exactly how he wants. But he does spend a lot of time mocking on planting seeds for a reconciliation that will happen later. Anthony also helps market closer to Corey. On Mark's request. Sam is going to go up on the block and cure is going gonna be very mad. And then he tries to to work the situation, but cure has having none of it. They they recognize that Anthony is behind this that Anthony is not trying to keep Sam safe, and they're very frustrated with Anthony, they don't like it. The relationship really starts to degrade from here. Anthony. In the meantime is getting even closer with Mark. He has brought Dane in with Corey. But he is also working with Mark. He's now kind of double dealing with Dane, and Mark this is one he says he also is able to get one Sam goes on the block and Adam accepts this is going home. Anthony is feel like I'm trolls aviator Charles aviator. Mind control. He continues to to veto the idea of bringing Damian into guys thing, make sure the Damian does not get in with the guys that you separated from from from Corey, and no Damian none of it. He discusses with marketing Damian or estimated to be the next to go. Those are the next targets Amien and ST Dane and Adam want to start are starting to want Corey gone soon. But Anthony says that's bad idea. Corey is good for us core. He's good Sam and Kira get more and more annoyed with Anthony as the week goes on. But but at this point Anthony has fully turned Corey against Damian saying Damian probably knew about the back door plan. And of course. Yeah, you're right themes, the worst. Kira still wants to take Anthony foreign game. Even though the relationship has deteriorated. And the reason is because Anthony is weak curious these Anthony as a week in the game. So he's a good person to take to the end. Even though they're very annoyed with him at this point in time. This is also the week where Anthony puts Adam in his place. He's blowing bubbles into SAM's mouth. Shower together shower together. That happened. Sam's Vic did and then he did vote her out. So. Heading into week seven once again, nobody will target Anthony if they win this age, she is currently working with the pretty boys. He's got Dane he's got Mark. And he's got Cory he's somewhat neutral with Damian and SD he has tried to repair his relationship with Steve from the whole KiKi situation, and it has somewhat worked. But so he's kind of neutral with them at this point not on grape terms with Kierra at the moment. Even though curious kind of willing to let Anthony come to the end game because he's weak here is not pleased with Anthony and does not like him at this point in time, and he's going to be targeting Damian and ST those are his targets here. Mark wins. The next H h and Anthony is going to spend time immediately trying to bond with KIRO. Once again, he talks about his family, his mother and his father. He also is going to talk with Mark Mark wants to nominate Adam with either Damian or ST. He does not want to nominate Corey. Dane is annoyed at that thing is very annoyed. He's he's starting to get annoyed at Mark all starting to get annoyed. An Anthony because he recognizes that Anthony is is is the cause of Mark being on willing to put Corey on the block Anthony. In the meantime is okay with an atom being nominated. But he would rather Damian s you just go straight up on the block. He says if Adam does get nominated I need to make a final three with Adam and Corey so he does. So he talks to Adam he tells Adam Adam you need to go in you need to act mad, and then say all these things that you've been acting like a dummy, and he gives Adam a-hole scripts to talk to Corey about Adam does the whole script is like, whoa. Yeah. And then Corey goes to Anthony. And she tells him what Adam told her which is Anthony told Adam to tell her and and and things like, oh, wow. That's great. That's great. You did such a great job. You're. Legend Corey, and then you know, I talked about this in the life. This is another fantastic moment from Anthony's literally giving people scripts to to read from and and it works like a charm. So Corey feels good about Adam good about Adam. But even though she doesn't she feels good about Adam. She's still was talking about taking the shot at him. If presented with the opportunity Anthony doesn't particularly like that. At this point in time. So that's something to know. Anthony does not like that. Mark made the decision to put Adam without his input. This is I think one of the marks against Mark here that Mark really came up with the decision to go Adam and somebody else without talking to Anthony. And then win talking to Anthony Anthony suggested maybe we just Daming and Esty. And and Mark said, no, I wanna do at Anthony's not like that. So Anthony and Kira are going to get into an argument about who was more obsessed with who cure you follow Chelsea around. Oh, Anthony you follow Corey around. They get into an argument there, and then they make up like I said this contentious relationship throughout the season, but very high emotional state here between the two of them. Then Anthony finds out that Dane, well, he doesn't find out the Dan, but Dane works on Mark has been working on Mark all week long to get him to back door Corey he finally pushes it through and Mark agrees to back door, Corey Mark. Then tells Anthony if the veto is used and somebody comes down you're not going to like the results. Anthony says what? He goes to rate to Dana. And he's like Adam is low worst. I can't believe he's doing this. He he's yells. He had yelled at Adam before they get into this whole thing Adam comes in Adams going to be in here. All look Adams here. Oh, anna. Why why can't we talk? This whole thing. I'm not like you, Adam. I'm not like you. This is fine. This is fine. I don't need Corey to stay accord should stay because she's loyal and. What happened here Damien eventually walked in awkward, but but he's very very upset. Very very upset. He blames Adam he talks to to market says you can't let this happen. Corey is with us with us. Mark remains flipped by Dane, he sticks with the planning. Sorry, man. It's gotta be court. Adam then wins the veto. And the next day. Anthony goes to work on Mark again. He says listen to me, listen to me Corey loves you you need to think about yourself not atom think about yourself. Adam hasn't helped us at all we've protected Adam this whole season, we don't need to protect him anymore. This is about us. Think about yourself. Corey loves you Cory will keep you safe in the triple vixen. And he gets marked flip once again. Mark. Now feels good about Anthony and Corey and Mark is not an from this point four. We're going to start to talk about Mark Corey. And Anthony being thing more. So than the pretty boys that they might want start taking shots at the pretty boys. He thinks that he can use Anthony like I said to take shots against the pretty boys. This spoke to him this talk of screw the pretty boys. Think about yourself. That's what Mark always been thinking. So Mark turns and he flips and he keeps Corey around or at least he tries to. Keira is once again, very annoyed Anthony for once again ruining their plans and their game that Corey is not going on the block. Anthony at this point is so. The secret assassin nominates Corey. After Anthony manages to get SDN Damien on the block together Corey goes up. Those are his two targets Damien. They're finally on the block he made it happen. And then the secret assassin puts Corey is closest ally. He's pissed. He's pissed goes to Dany says Dane, you she you need to keep Corey. And Dane says sorry, bro. I think corey's corey's dangerous. She can beat us. And and these doesn't matter Corey loyal. That's what matters and says, dude sorry. This is the point where Anthony fully is going to move off of the danger train and onto the Marc train. Mark is going to be his primary ally. From this point forward for the time being at the very least. So. He he even tells Mark tells Mark Mark I'm only going to vote for you or Corey in the final two. Only you're Corey. Pretty upset. Pretty are going to continue to argue for the rest of the week. But we do know that Corey was eventually evicted Anthony did not vote to Vic Corey this is the one and only time he is not vote correctly. And it was not not his will that Corey went home. I do think we can give them a little bit of a pass. Because this was a twist, but but I think it's less of a pass than I'd give Danes vote for ST because that was largely symbolic whereas this one was genuinely against what Anthony wanted and he voted to keep Corey in the game. So we get to week eight SD Damian and Kira all might target Anthony if they win but only as a secondary target to Corrie who he will stay against. So if Esti Damian or Kira won the HR wage, they would likely put up Corey and Anthony or maybe Corey ST my put up. Corey and Kira Damian. My put up Corey Anthony, actually Daming probably wouldn't put up Corey. I'm not if you would know Damien Mark sorry. SD probably Corey and Mark cure would probably put up Corey. And Anthony at this point Damion, probably Corey and Mark, but Danny would probably go up as a renomination Corey won the veto. And then Mark or Anthony could be in danger. Anthony, probably not endanger this week is what I'm trying to get at many many other outcomes that can happen. But there are a few small tiny outcomes where Anthony might have gone home. If the wrong person from one h and then the wrong person won the veto. Something to think about this is probably the second worst positioned worse position. He had in the game in terms of being safe. It's all over it varies wildly. Because last week. He was safe. He was like two weeks ago. He was the safest he'd ever been. Nobody was targeting him. He was working with like most of the house and then two weeks later, he he's got a lot of people potentially targeting him and the people he's working with have dramatically. Should gone down. He's working with the pretty boys and pretty boys working with Mark. And that's it. He's got nobody else. He is not on great terms with ST Damian or Kira? He's he's really in a bit of a tough spot here. This is a low point in Anthony's game he's targeting Adam. He's pissed at him for being the Asan he's targeting Damian. He's starting starting Kira starting to lot of people. Adam wins, the H if Anthony had one this h he indicated to us that he was going to take a shot at Adam. Wouldn't have landed. Not likely. Like, the atom almost definitely would have won this veto competition anyway, and he likely would not have gone home. If he was on the block unless he was on the block against Dane, which might have been the case. But who knows who knows? So Anthony's pissed Adam winds h Anthony's Pistole 'bout Corey. He goes off on cura-cures scared of him. This is the whole argument where Anthony sits down on the floor and says I'm going to sit and whisper so that I don't intimidate you. That's when this happens. And it's this big big argument. Anthony does try to get cure on the block. But it is unsuccessful shocking approach. Daming ST are going to be the people to go up on the block as a fake backdoor plan for Mark. And then he does make a concerted effort to get closer to cure this week. And he tells Mark to do the same hells Mark to do the same says Mark you need to get closer to cure. Mark does. So and it's successful. Damian is going to win the veto and. This is when they have the pretty boys. Have they come together? Anthony and Mark discuss. Alright what we need to do is. You're gonna pitch for deign to go up on the block instead of you. So that's what Mark does in the pretty boy meeting they convinced aimed to go up on the block instead of Mark and in order to do. So they bring in Kira, and they offer Kira a final five deal Kira accepts it. Dane, then makes a final three with Kierra. And they talk and they decide danger knock on the block. They tell Anthony this and Anthony is like. I don't like that should go on the block, but he eventually concedes. Okay, fine. Mark will go on the block Mark and Anthony had talked about. Hey, if Dane is on the block, maybe we should take a shot bra from not. But maybe we might be able to. So that's that was something that they were considering. But it was cut short because Mark end up on the block instead. And Dane also let Anthony know that he made a final three with Kierra. So Anthony had that information. He then used that information to flip Kira against Dane and make sure that Kira ends up targeting Dane moving forward from this week. So here is now talking to the cameras about a final three with Adam. And either Anthony or Mark that's their ideal. Final three at this point in time, Mark and Anthony then discuss their target for the double Mark wants to target. Dane, Anthony says no not Dane, it should be Adam. Adam in the double of action. Okay. So ST is victim. Anthony did vote to Victor. We have a double vision. Once again, nobody will target Anthony in this situation if they win he's working with the pretty boys in Mark. He's on good terms now with Kierra he flipped that relationship around. He is not on good terms with Damian who would put him on the block if Damien one. But but Anthony Damian would target Anthony. But he the target would be somebody like, Adam or or Mark. So Anthony would probably stay in that in that spot. Anthony's probably completely safe. You're at the double mission he is targeting. Adam Dane and Damian in the double vision. Those are the people he would like to go home Dane wins. This h he puts Damian Damian was home. Just like that or into week nine. Nine same setup he still targeting Adam. And dane. Kira? When's the h we saw this play? Oh, very recently. We're gonna go through it very quickly. Anyway, Anthony throws Adam under the bus to Kira. Now. Remember just last week here had been flipped by Anthony against Dane, he used the information about the final three. This is a very important move. Again. If you want details, then you should go and listen to the relevant relevant updates or even the roundtables where we discuss in a little more detailed. But basically, he went to cure with the knowledge that Dane had made a final through them. He said Dane has made other final threes with Damian final three with SD all sorts of final threes. Don't believe Dane when he makes a final three he's probably made one with you. And if and if and if you did then you wouldn't have say loyal to that final three. That's when curious is to go against Dane. But at that point they still wanted Adam to work with them. They still wanted to Adam in the final three. So it is not until the morning after cures h h win when Anthony talks to them and says, hey, Adam manipulates, you Adam has of final to deal with Dane he's gonna take deign to the final two, Adam. He's he what they talk about. How he brings up Sam in order to manipulate you at that point here. Then started to talk about maybe I should nominate Adam next today because then. Then Adam can't use the veto on Dane, and they were very okay with that. Once they found out that Adam is not on their side as much as they thought he was Adam is no longer in curious final three plants. So Adam and Dane go on the block Anthony says Mark this is my h my George Adam blows up is we saw you blows up. He says Anthony you're trying to get cure on the block last week. And now, I'm on the block and Anthony denies it. And they get into a whole big thing. But in the middle of the fight atom says, hey, stop this. He hugs him they cry and then changes his mind, no longer ones, Adam to go home Adams loyal. He sees it sees that Adams loyal Dame. Not loyal Dane was happy about this whole situation. So he changes his mind he goes to Adam he convince Adam he says, hey, I'm gonna keep you. And then he spills all of the information he's been holding onto with Dane all season long. You finally lets loose and tells Adam that Dane is playing him. Adam isn't sure whether to believe Anthony. But and he wants to keep him. And he's happy about that. So Anthony proposes a final to Adam Adam excepts the final two then wins the veto. After Adam wins veto, Anthony goes to Dane, and he says look man, I'm sorry. The only thing is the thing is you were loyal victim Corey he shouldn't have done that. You were not on my side. Dane is upset says I'm not I'm not out yet. The next morning he pitches to Anthony. He says man, you need me. I love you Koby and shack worked together, even though they disagreed. We win. We win. We win. We'll win together. You need me. I got the I got this calendar. It's got macaroni. We got this. Anthony, again, changes his mind. Besides he's gonna keep Dane and the victim Mark Mark who has been telling him that Kira is talking about taking Mark to the final two. And Mark says don't worry. I'm loyalty you Anthony. I'm manipulated by you, Anthony, don't worry Anthony sees through it. And decides that Dane is more genuine. So Anthony evicts Mark. From the game, but not before convincing Kira that this is the best move for Kira? He goes to cure and says, hey, marksman saying your name marks really dangerous. Mark has a rhyme. Cures. Like, why are we getting Mark out? And he's like, I don't know. Maybe that's a good idea. Great great, great on you for thinking about it care. He does have to stay on top of Kira and convinced the multiple times throughout the week telling them, they're lying there legend all of that stuff. Once again incredible from Anthony what he is capable of doing here. But we do have to talk about whether this was the right move. Because. Heading into the final four Dane is going to win. The next h Anthony has final deals with each of the remaining final four. He's got one with Dane with Adam and with Kierra he's targeting, Adam, probably he Danewin's h they talk about their final two. They're going to do it. They're gonna victim. If they can Adam loses the final veto Dane wins it and they discuss whether when they're going to break to Adam that Adam is leaving. So assuming that they've acted at them heading into the final three atom Anthony has final two deals with Kierra. And Dane now he made the move to keep being at the final five over Mark. We know from Mark because I spoke to him that Mark is not planning or was not planning on taking Dane Anthony to the final two. Mark did not did not think that he could win against Anthony wanted to take care. We don't know. Whether Dane will take Anthony to the final two or not. But. Mark probably would not have one or had as much of a chance to win in the final three. So there are a lot of things to consider here. Right with Dane if you have Dane in the game, and it's Dane, Adam. And Anthony, we know we know that Adam probably would have taken deigned because what we learned in the final four is that Adam went to Dane and told him about the final two he made with Anthony Adam was probably more loyal to Dane of atoms that final three h he takes Dane, probably if Dane wins. He takes Anthony. So that's like a fifty fifty shot. It's not the greatest Francini if it's Dane and Kira Kira has made a final two with Dane, which I do believe to be more genuine than their final two with Anthony. And Dane might take Anthony I also feel like that's kind of fifty fifty between the chance that cure it can win and take Dane or the Dane will win and take care. That's not the greatest either necessarily. If he had kept Mark. I do believe that Adam would have remained faithful to his final two with Anthony. I'm not sure. But I do think he would have he was burned by Kira? He's definitely not taking care, and he never had that close of a relationship with Mark who also has burned him in the past. I do believe Adam would have remained loyal to Anthony and take an Anthony to the end. Now can Anthony beat adamant jury. That's another question to ask. But if you Vicks Dane at final five he gets to the final four with Adam. And Mark we we can probably say that Adam wins the these competitions with deign to compete against Adam than Vicks Kira? And at that point. I think Mark takes Anthony and Adam takes Anthony, and I actually do feel like that's probably a better spot for Anthony. So this might have been a mistake, but it's hard, and we won't know for sure until we find out what Dane does. And what happens with the jury vote? So that's important too to note there, but but that's what it's looking like here at the final four. So if Adam is a victim, it is important to to note here that the final three will consist of Kira day, Dane, and Anthony it will likely come down to a part three with either Kira and Dane or Anthony and Dane Dane has a leg up on this competition. I do believe that KIRO will take Dane, but Anthony has been known to convince cure of many things. So he could convince curator take him at which point. I think Anthony wins if Dane wins. I don't know we talked about this last night in the round table. I don't know whether he takes Anthony or not. And I don't know if Anthony beats him or not so lots of things up in the air there with with all of that. So. So. When we look at the exit interviews that I did. Sam has rated his ranked. Anthony below Dane. But and also below cure. I think or mono. She rated I believe it was Dane. Adam Dane, Anthony, Kira, or it might have been cure. Anthony, I don't remember. But she really talked about wanting to reward the best player. And so she would likely be vote for Anthony over Kira? But would be probably vote for Dane over. Anthony, Corey ranked Anthony number one Dane was way down at number five was down a number six and Adam was number three. So. Corey probably vote for Dane for Anthony. ST ranked Dane number one Anthony number four, Adam number five and cure, a number six so ST could be vote for Anthony over Adam or Kira, but would likely be vote for Dane over. Anthony, Damian ranked Dane at number two Anthony number three cure was lasted five Adam was number one. So once again, Dane, having a slight edge over Anthony with the Damian rankings Mark ranked Adam number one day number two, Anthony number three care number four. Again, Dane ranked above Anthony. According to these exit interviews Adam could beat. Anthony, Dane could beat Anthony Kira? Probably would not. It's going to be a close vote either way for sure very close vote. So that's what we're looking at heading into this final. So let's let's sum up Anthony's game here. Let's start to do this summer here. Michael Anthony is all about good TV. Do you think Anthony has an epic speech about keeping adamant humiliates cure on in votes them out? He's been trying to humiliate someone all season his words. I do not. I do not. I don't think that is likely. It's possible. Maybe but I don't think it's likely just Anthony that's the same question. So so there you go. That's that's that question. So let's talk about Anthony's game. And then he came into the game. And he learned very quickly was not as consistent or as adaptable as Danes game was, but his highs were so much higher than than Danes were only a few times he was in a position where he could have gone home, which I think was a little bit more than than Anthony. But like I said he had much more control and influence throughout the game than anybody else throughout the season. If you look at if if we're looking at Dane versus Anthony, Dane was a more consistent a more well rounded and more adaptable player but Anthony had control over the season. What Anthony wanted Anthony got the shock and approach meant that he failed in a lot of his different ideas. But the ones he's but he always found one to succeed. He controlled the vixen. He controlled the boot order for the most part. There were very few times where we're Anthony did not get his way. One of those times was with Corey and one of those times was with I guess, Laura. But for the most part he got his way. Now, did he make the correct decisions with the boot order is something that we can talk about losing Kaelin losing Eddie. These are people that could have theoretically been votes for Anthony if he had been if they had been in the jury, and he let them go early. He led the relationships deteriorate because he was working on was focusing on people that he could manipulate better which was great for his game to control the season. But not always focusing on the jury and that I think comes from his lack of game knowledge. He never even I think finished a full season. He doesn't really understand how the jury works and what happens with jury questioning. And so that has. Is not been his primary concern. In the meantime, Dane, being the more well rounded player has focused on the jury. He's made sure to give people pity votes where he needs to. He's made sure to do jury management with key members of the jury like Sam. It seems clear to me that Dane has outplayed Anthony when it comes to jury management. However, Anthony has played such a strong and dominating game that he has puppets on the jury in Corey in in potentially cure. If it comes down to Dane versus Anthony. And and even Mark who said he would vote for Dane over. Anthony, we still feel like probably would have a vote cast for Anthony over Dane, but but that depends that's that's if Dane takes Anthony and cuts Kira? I think he'll probably find that to be a silly decision. But again, I've also said on the round table that I feel like Mark would be vote for Dane, if he feels like that's the way the rest of the votes are going as well. And he might just vote for Dan. Anyway, but point being Anthony does have some votes on that jury, probably probably. So. So that's that's how to look at that. Corey was the only time he didn't vote correctly. That Corey moment was his lowest point in the game. His lack of competition. Prowess helped him immensely people saw him as weak, and they didn't think he was worth parting and he surrounded himself with other big targets all around him. He had big targets. Adam Dane, Corey all of these people were big targets around him. So that if he went on the block, he would hopefully stay that was not the case with Dane, and he wasn't danger when it came to Dane, but other than that he was very safe largely because of his lack of competition prowess, which was which served him very, well, unfortunately, it was not faked. And so when it comes to the end game, he did not have the ability to win himself to the end, which is why he needed Dane. And and that's all good. Now. See the thing about Anthony's game is that all season long. We worried about his endgame. How does this endgame work? And it turns out he. Have a plan. Here was a secret sleeper cell, and and Adam he was going to make sure he had the ammo to turn Adam against Dane now, it seems like he failed in turning Adam against Dane and he did succeed with Kira? And so now the question becomes, but I mean, he was able to get Adam out, theoretically. If that's what happened, and he has Dane if he can beat Dane in jury vote, then it justifies all of the decisions that Anthony is made. If if Dane wins and takes Anthony, he stays loyal and Anthony beats him. Then I think we look back and we say this was the best game in the season by far. I think that that is the highest level of game play that anybody can achieve this season. However, if Anthony doesn't get taken by Dane, or if Anthony loses the jury vote today, we do have to question some of the decisions that were made by Anthony late in the end game and say, those were probably mistakes, and it was probably his lack of up front knowledge about the game that cost him the wind here because he didn't understand the jury quite as well or he had the wrong read on Dane who was able to manipulate him. And in that case, I do think we probably would say Dane is the better player, though, not quite as good as Anthony could be if Anthony one. So that would be that would be my read on that situation. I've been married on that situation. And it's all of course, very. Up to like, how this happens what the jury says how close the vote is. And all of that. So lots of stuff up in the air here to talk about. But either way they're both incredible players and Anthony has played a completely dominating game. His daunting presence in the game helped him manipulate people and get his way, but it also did get him into a lot of disagreements with people throughout the season. And that may also be a reason that either people do vote for him because they felt close enough to argue with him or that they may not might not feel as close to him as as they want to. And and might not want to vote for him stacked wants to know. We'll Anthony look more fly going in going out than you did coming in or his Pinkers outfit. I think Anthony will look incredibly always fly. So so there you go that was that was Anthony's game. It's it's hard to give the final analysis on it. Because so much of it relies on things that haven't happened yet. Right. Anthony was fantastic. If Dane actually does take him to the end because that means he was right? It means he was able to manipulate Dane into taking him. He was able to get that far. And then if he wins a jury vote that means that was the correct decision to keep Dane over Adam and to to have Mark go out in that spot where maybe he could have beaten, Mark. But couldn't be Dane it really depends. And I think the fact that it depends tells us that. That that it's hard to blame him for making the wrong decision because it was a close way either way. But but it does matter when it comes to judging him against other great players of the season. I think regardless of the outcome of the season Anthony should be and will be considered one of the best players to play big brother Canada of all time and. And that's just the way things. Go. Has deigned shared any info with what happens on in the finale to Anthony not too much? Dane, honestly doesn't know ton either. He knows more than Anthony because he's watched the show, but not like not like superfan feed watching level of knowledge there. Do I think Anthony knows the only a short period of time for his speech at the final two. I'm sure he's going to be given a heads up by production about how much time we'll have. But probably doesn't recognize how worthless. The questioning period is that they're not even going to be asking their own questions reading off of a card. They're gonna have already made the decision, and that's not something. That's good for Anthony something that I've talked about before is that I do believe that Anthony feels very confident because Anthony's game plan is as long as I get to the final two I can win because I can out talk the other person doesn't realize that. That's not really how it works. He assumes. That's how it works because that's how it's kind of supposed to work, but it does not actually work that way. And so that is going to be a big hindrance to his jury management. So something to think about. I feel like I feel like I've been too negative about it. I'm trying to explain why I think because like I said on the round table. I am leaning toward I think Dane, probably has not probably I think I'm leaning toward Dane taking the win here. And so I do feel like. I'm trying to find the spots here where Anthony allowed that to happen. But if Anthony wins than all of these decisions were correct that he should have taken Dane, and he should've gotten deigned to take him to the final two. And then he wins over Dane, and if Dane loses then we will point to Dane as being too loyalty Anthony to easily manipulated by Anthony. And and definitely just should've taken care to the end. It's obvious at that point. So. We'll see we'll see what happens. It really really depends on what happens here at the end. They are both so good and either one of them, I believe will be the the best the best winner of big brother Canada. So. What will we point to if KIRO wins? Stump. We'll point to the off button. Do I think that if Corey had vote the first week and kept Mackey, how do you think it would have affected? Anthony, I actually think Anthony again, I feel like it might have been a mistake for Anthony. Although Mackey was pretty close to Dane, so maybe that wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world. But I don't think it would have mattered to too much. Anthony, either way I think he could have used Mackey in much the same way he used Kira? Honestly. So I don't think that matters. Alright. Alright, that's what we have for you for Anthony. Truly truly a fantastic game has done a lot of things really dictated the action throughout the season. Like, I said not as well rounded as Dane but much stronger than Dane when it comes to manipulation there were various points in the season throughout the game. Where dane. Relented to Anthony's will deign said. Okay. With Mackey Daines said fine. We'll do what you want. Anthony. With with KiKi. Anthony, just straight up outplayed Dane and kept Corey to get rid of KiKi with Chelsea Anthony wanted Chelsea to go and not to do the back door for Sam. And then he got deign to relent and agreed to do what Anthony wanted with marks. H h. Anthony guts Mark to keep Corey even though the secrets hasn't happened. Anthony, God his way even though. The twist ruined it. With corey's h h he got Sam to be back doored, despite the fact that Sam didn't want or that Corey didn't want to do that. And that Adam didn't want that to happen. Anthony made it happen. And he made everyone, okay. With with the with cures H, h you know. You know, so on and so forth. It's every step of the way Anthony has always been able to get his way and get to the end in the way that he wanted to. And so again now it all comes down to has he made the right decisions along the way very much like how we looked at Tyler's game where he dictated a lot of the action throughout that season. But did he make the correct decisions that he take the right people to the end? Can he beat them or has he made similar mistakes? We're going to have to find out on finale night. So tomorrow morning, I will be live, and we will talk about cures game across big brother candidate seven. So look out for that. I will try to be a little bit early for that one. So just look out on my Twitter at Armstrong Taryn for that. I will be heading to Toronto tomorrow. So my flight is smart. That's why I'm going to be a little bit early possible. So I'll be going over curious game. And then Thursday night. I will be live from Toronto. After the airing of the episode to recap the finale, and then Friday, I will be speaking with the final three in person. Nascar some questions. We'll be on the. All right. That's what I have for you. Thank you so much for joining me today. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, if you're looking out for the one we're going to go live with the cure thing tomorrow and. Now, you go. Thanks once again for joining me. I hope you enjoyed Anthony's game. I'll see you next time.

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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 21 | Thursday Eviction Episode Recap Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 21 | Thursday Eviction Episode Recap Podcast

"The. Rob has a podcast. I'm your host turn Armstrong. And with me tonight's is rob of rob has a podcast. I you doing rob very excited to be back talking about some big brother Canada with you guys for the first time in two weeks very excited. Just pop in here like Hamza just give a little like Wendy's type. Oh, no, hugs. No, hugs. I'm sorry. Hap, happy happy to be back with the LLC talking some big brother tonight. Also, you forgot your Wendy's uniform. Rob sorry about that. I'll bring it in next time. I I'm living for all of the Wendy's commercials on the Canada as well. We are here to talk about tonight's Harun. Isn't tonight's eviction episode of big brother candidate seven? Also joining tonight is Melissa Danny. How're you doing Melissa? I'm doing great. I'm these past couple of days have been really fun on the feeds. So it's been. It's been really good because you know, it takes a little while to get into things. And I was like thinking why is it taking you so long to get into this one? And now a minute. So now, I'm excited and I'm excited for this age cited for it, all so let's go let's go get it fell. Finally with us tonight is Brenton Brent. I figured I figured. Joke. Yeah. Come on silence from the peanut go. What did you figure you're gonna questions making fun? I had a preset line. So you're like, Mike gloom. You throw me up with your questions. And I have I have a line. I have have have a thing. Zinger ready to go. You need to save it for the right moment. We are going to like I said talk about tonight's eviction episode where we saw Kaylynn evicted from the house with a ten to zero vote. It's unanimous Damian has still despite being on the block for fiction votes now has not received a single one. So to to indecently for for somebody. That's been on the block so much only Canada's votes, he gets very true. So we saw Kaelin leave. We saw Damian get this twist to see some top level info Intel, and we we are we were told that the double vision is coming lots of lots of big things happening. Also, of course, the pretty boys could be exposed so much to talk about tonight. Let's start with Kaelin Kaelin has left the house. She admitted before she left that she wasn't fact forty two years old to resounding nod of. Yes, I rebounding we now figures Manchester checks out we figured we had a dream about it. We ultimately saw her leave and attended your vote. Were you expecting this? Rub. Yeah. I mean. These two people that are here. She was you know, fighting so hard to stay. And the problem is that she just was so misdirected in terms of like what the actual dynamics of the house were and where the actual like she's right as a fire in the house, but it's it's in the wrong room, and she's a getting people all wound up and this type of player is never gonna last long and again. Yeah, unfortunately, and I think that we should give her some credit for. I say that in some ways she's a modern day pop in Paul of her time. Call Jackson esque of like going after whatever the. You know, just really just mad at that people that are ultimately not gonna win. I have villain. Yeah. Absolutely Kaelin looking in the mirror thing you have to be the villain. To do it. It's like, no, you don't like you don't have to be the villain. What's going on here? Like what she really went for villain status with that speech. Brent I loved it. I loved it. And you know, she knew she was going to change a damn mind. She wanted to have her say joined to get a little bit messy on the way out. I thought Jamie it really well where he hand out every. I thought she was making some peace with people, but I should have known about her really that she was going to come for them. But you saw everything you needed to know in this speech of hers of what's wrong with her game. She thinks that Sam and Adam and show CR controlled house. And while they do have some agency in the house. It is not them that is really controlling anything. It's more Adam and the pretty boys who are really controlling everything. So of course, I was totally aghast. When a researcher asked or my bad pun at the beginning. That you know, there's actually a four boy alliance in the house that has been there since the beginning kaylin, I figured like no, you did not no not g I had a drain this week brandy. Eddie even tried to tell her about that. And she pooh-poohed him like worse than Chelsea. I hate that so much out of the house, and they're pretending that they knew everything in there. Like, I know I could see it. And it's like if you could see it, and you knew then you would have done something about it to try and save your game. But you didn't mention it at all in the house. So that you did not know you guys don't remember in her speech when she mentioned the pretty boys and how they were running the game. That's the problem for Kaelin more. So than any other big brother houseguests is that her livelihood is that she has to people convinced that she can foresee the future. So she really can't be like, oh, man. You know, what I gotta be honest total? Might side on that one Orissa did not even boy for you can knock me over with a feather right now. It's you could tell arrested and get the response that she wanted like you could tell risk was like waiting for her. If you like oh my God. Which is like the response that she should have given the the real honest responses like, oh my God. I had no idea. But you know, she wasn't going to give it to her. And she was just like, wow, I figured like no you didn't figure. No. I mean, like did Kaitlyn really go home just because of the way she played was simply because of how far she went in for Mackey because I really do think that if she had not win in as far as she had for Mackey, and you can guess it's debatable whether or not she should have done that. But she was completely oblivious to the fact Dane was snowing her and decided to go toe to toe with the rest of the house in a five to five haute really hoping that she had that tiebreaker on her side, and she did not. And if she doesn't work her magic to try to make that happen and get those votes lined up. I don't know that she's sitting here she could be, but they wouldn't have had as much ammunition against her. And I think it would have been a harder sell. Yeah. I mean, she basically spent the week prior to this one not campaigning for Mackey. And just kind of hanging out expecting MAC estate unanimously then on the eleventh hour right before the Vic Shen, she tried to gather a votes, which was very. Visible and very successful. And and that really put her in the spotlight despite not working on her relationships doing any campaigning beforehand, then she spent all of this week again, not really doing much besides talking to Eddie and an hanging out with Eddie and then getting blindsided by a back door, which she claimed she saw coming. And then she finally started putting in work, which was very fun to see. And I was very disappointed that we didn't get more of this Kaelin in the house in that she left so early because she really knows how to cause chaos in this house. Her campaigning style is affected in the sense that it did riles a lot of people up and there were a few times during the vote could have changed including just this morning where everybody was in in freak out mode. So I wish we saw more of that Kaelin in the house. Rob did you did you see any of that from from the episodes chaos Kaelin? Yeah. She just was such a squeaky wheel in house where that in playing this long game of big brother, especially for somebody who's not on the side of the house with power to be that visible. Coming off last week. It's just never going to be a recipe unless it's more of these areas where if she got the this week if it wasn't this week. It was going to be next week. She was just like too big into out of target or anybody who was looking or an easy person to get out of the house, and she she was a player that likes to play big but didn't follow through. So it's really the worst combination. Add to that the fact that she is older than the rest of the house guest despite trying to appear less so and you do have a recipe for like. She's probably not too long for this game. And ultimately, I think it is that combination of a big move game play with not a lot to back. It up not really maintaining relationships enough tear, it I wanna know that from building off of Mackey being the worst big brother. Her player was Mackey so bad that he also knocked Kaelin out a week after him leaving the house himself. I mean to a large extent. Yeah. To people. That's how bad he was if he hadn't got if he hadn't been a victim Kaelin would've been in a much better spot because Kaelin was very close with Mackey, and she would have been a little more insulated at the very least. And also she wouldn't have been blamed for trying to flip the vote because wouldn't have been flipped in the first place. So yeah, really, I mean Macki Macki really screwed himself out of the house did definitely hurt Kaelin quite a bit here. Yeah. Too bad too. And she she made some good points in her exit interview that, you know, lying about her age put some distance between herself and the other houseguests, but on the other hand as Charon notice she really didn't try to bond with any of the other houseguests she had her own way of doing things, and she didn't like you knew it. And like she was hanging out with Eddie for the past five days of the past seven days. And I can't say that I'm surprised to see her go. I am surprised in that. She went into the house saying I'm going to tell people about this part of my life in hopes that I don't get targeted. But I am not surprised in that in doing. So that allowed her to look a little shifty to the rest of the house. 'cause because that in fairness did always come up about. Oh, well, she's not really twenty nine obviously, she's not what else does she line out? Did she say she had? I think she said the Supremes when she was asked about a music joys and most import. She can cook. Yes. That was always like weird and a little chauvinistic to me. But the thing about the supreme I asked my wife, what could she cook? When she was twenty nine and she said nothing. As fair, but not that much. I was going to go there. Sorry, hon. When you listen to. Anyway, she she she she made her bed and she had to lie in it. I think the the funny part was this house meeting where she called it. And basically spilled some on herself and said I've been lying. So now, keep me really didn't do it. It was intended to do. But the spectacle of it did have some funny ramifications that been head other ramifications as we saw the episode, and I was so is to see Terron that Sam as you saw the sewed overheard. Adam Dane talking about Sam and Chelsea potentially on the block. And we thought potentially that she got this information by way of twist that is not what happened actually just a little sloppy. And she did over here. And I'm thinking we actually didn't see the entire thing we had because we had to watch a ten minute treasure hunts of Damian going to the same damn ruby. By the way, I will own my bullshit on that. Because I said on this podcast week ago tonight that they would not give the twist Damian because he was already in the room the first time, and that would be such boring television. And he was a guy who like watched Atta make a final deal with Dane and didn't do anything with information. And yet they still gave it to him. So Taryn permission to speak frankly to Canada, please. What are you doing doing with this guy Damian? I didn't want to pull this out. He's so boring. Please. Don't do this raw. Boring guy. He's gone. It was compounded. By the fact, that the twist was such a disaster in the first place. I guess it was a disaster from my point of view in that they wasted our time with it. I guess it wasn't a disaster from your point of uterine, Melissa. Where it didn't really impact the game whatsoever. It was just a whole lot enough. And then he keeps going on the block. And then he keeps it's been. So now, he had the under cat thing. Also what he's arena underdog. I will say I am a fan of Damian. And I do think that he was probably a good choice for this. If it had been something more, Damian is probably one of the few people in the house that is willing to make a move against the pretty voice at the at this point. And really almost anybody else. Getting this probably wouldn't have utilized in the same way. So, you know, from from feeds perspective, I think it does make sense. But I do think it also came from the casual fan base who who love Damien, I think people have talked about how he has first nation support, which is huge. And he's also like he is the prettiest of the boys. He's the first nation. Yes. And he does he have see underdog stuff. He's he's like a nice guy in a house of like pretty boys. I feel like you know, he he seems to be the fan favorite at this point. And I don't know if that's gonna change Melissa. I did think it was funny how they kind of treat it as if it would be a big reveal of him going in that room like they kind of had it kind of they along gated it, and they drew it out. And like he goes in the room, and he looks like he's already been in there. Like, what are they? Reference that. Yeah. Like, why don't they just sit there, and we'll be like, okay are oh ever been in here. Like, welcome me back or whatever. Instead, they're like, how can you look around you like whoa touch veto ends up. It's like we know that like us early seen this stuff and nothing was done about it. And I mean, it all makes sense now that we didn't hear anything about the twist. We didn't you know, we were wondering who wanted. What information was revealed will now we know first of all it was Damian and he hasn't done anything with the information gleaned from the first time. So why would we expect anything different and second? They didn't give any good information. Have you seen the show before? And it's like I've watched three seasons. Are you a good liar? Sometimes. Think who has gotten from that. Like, are you serious? I mean, I'm very happy. Don't get me wrong. But like it was nothing. But it was really what sodas you like to drink. I mean pop tell that. He honestly like even Damian was like, I didn't learn anything from that like outdoor any cool who is your favorite of the Spice Girls to tell you. I was really pissed that there wasn't actually a little bit more information here. I would I would have been possible to please. Here's. They had there was a good middle ground here. Where like you can only pick two houseguests you have to decide which ones you wanna pick. Some people might reveal crappy information other people might have something more to tell you. And I feel like that no matter what they were like there was nothing to be gleaned from those whatever questions they asked. What's your favorite month of the year? Whatever room they were in exactly I mean, this this is like I don't think this should be undersold just because it didn't really amount to much especially the question about how many seasons. Have you watched a lot of people go in trying to pretend they don't know the show, and that could be something that completely changes the entire houses. Perception of that player that would have had a huge impact on a lot of people that have played the game. And this again, looking back at past players in the house that would have had a major impact on say, Dan geese link. It would have had a major impact on on Derek. If this if somebody had watched a preseason package with Derek like talking about how he is. A super fan of the show and an undercover police detective like these could still be tech there on saying like if if the bomb squad new Derek had seen a bunch of seasons. I don't think chain one thing in a house. I I think I would have preferred it, honestly, if they had done that thing that we had suggested or like theorize could happen, which is them seeing the cameras like with no audio because I think that you know, it's some maybe it could have been nothing. Maybe people could have just been like mixing mingling and hanging out. But he could if he's watching it for like an hour or chunk of time or whatever it could have revealed something, for example, at all the pretty boys are talking in one room. And he could be like, hey, I did see them talking. The problem with that is that it's not television friendly because if nothing comes of it, then they can't spin it to make it look like he got information. At least the way, they did it it makes it look like he got some information. When in reality, we all know that it wasn't worth Jack. I feel like we're pro ching this from the wrong angle. It shouldn't be what should he have seen? Instead, it should be. Why did they do this at? All right. Like, right. That's the real fun. I mean, that's that's the best way to go about this. Not do it in the first place because I feel like no matter what he sees. It's going to disappoint either. It's going to be not be worth anything which is going to make people be like oh well, thank God. It wasn't terrible. Or you're gonna see something which is going to be like, oh that was terrible. And so it's it's it's a lot of much to do about nothing here as the H competition is currently going on as we speak. We will. Of course, talk about the results. Once we get to the end of the podcast and talk about spoilers. But I am currently slightly distracted by this. Mom, a rob. What did you think about this twist? No, it was that one. I can't get my head my head around a why why Damian out of anybody and then from following the live updates. I felt like oh this is going to be a big game. Changing twist that we're gonna see all right here, we go. What are we going to see? And then it was like a more of the secrets from the first night. And the biggest actionable information. Ooh. Marcus seen bunch of seasons of and what is Daming good do with that information. Like a gonna go poison the well of hey, hey, everybody did. I think Mark seen more seasons than he's letting on what? Mark. Also, it's really strange for somebody to say like to be in a pre season interview about big brother and say, I'm not a great liar. Of course, you're gonna say, you're good. I don't know why Sam said she wasn't a good liar. And also I mean again like now people are going to be gaming in the preseason trying to give fake answers to production. So it doesn't get spoiled to the rest of the right? Everybody has their production interviews talking about how. Nope. I haven't seen any season. What is this show? Once this KO my billion dollar mile. My favorite is Bob. That's my favorite player. He was he was on the show, right? It's gonna make drafting so much hardy. Yeah. So that happens. I actually kind of enjoyed the scavenger hunt stuff. I like watching people have to be sneaky in the house. I wish we could have seen it on the feeds of that would have been even more fun because there's a lot more attention there. Anything can happen. But, but you know, overall, I think why do this. Why did we need this? We there was plenty of stuff to show. And I think they're really the lesson to be learned here is that we don't need a twist to blow up a a big brother alliance running the show because things can happen naturally. And we did see that happen on this episode as well where Sam over hears the conversation between Dane and Adam talking about the pretty boys. Hey, PB to the end. It's great that salmon Chelsea or targets. This is this is fine. And she is going to go to Chelsea and Kira? And they are going to talk about wait a minute are the guys playing us. This is huge. Lissa this huge. This was so exciting. I honestly this is what I've been waiting for. This sorta game play where people are doubting other people. And it's not as cut and dry as just like, oh, this person's going up on the block, and they're going home. That's the end and move onto the next week. I really liked this sort of the sort of game where they're also they're trying to hide that they know certain of ERM Asian. It's like that friends episodes Dado. No that we know that I know that you know, that you're in an alliance against me. You know, that's stuff. I really love. Because now we've got Sam how many seasons of friends? Did you see all of them a billion times? Anyway, they we've got Sam thinking that Adam is against her. But she still has to play up to Adam that she's still totally enamored by him. We've got Chelsea having to play to people like I it's so entertaining for me. And I love that sort of stuff. So this was this was a great scenario. And I think. That they are using the they're they're playing with that information correctly because you know, my first instinct was like Uchitel the other girls, and then you guys can join together. And I do think that their strategy of not telling them and pretending that because you know, they could totally blow it up as dean KiKi. I don't know. I don't think they should trust them at all. So they could absolutely have blown up their spot. Tuta boys. Have they gone to them at the same time. It cuts both ways because they were saying, well, let's not tell them until we're in power or the voice or not in power next week. And it's like, yeah. Well, if you wait too long, then they're going to think that you're playing them because if you wait until KiKi and SC are in power, then it's going to look like you're just trying to make up anything you can to get on their good side. So I it cuts both ways. But I think that they I think they're moving in the right direction right now between a rock and a hard place. But there was there was the clear choice here. Do not say anything do not put it out the universe. It's going to come back and bite you in the us. And who says the years? Kiki are gonna win h the first place. I have faith in SAM's ability to win h h either of those. So I think this is the right calling in and tear noted on the feeds update if they had said anything to the girls the twins as we say, they wouldn't went right to Dana. Dane, when it's all the pretty boys pretty ways would've said, you know, what that would give basically what it would have told Adam that it's okay to to let go of Sam. And I still think that that's going to be tough to do if they if anybody who wants to target Sam from the pretty boys comes to power, they're really going to have to contend with the fact that Santa's in an alliance or in a relationship with one of the guys in the pretty boys, namely, Adam. And how are you going to work around that I still don't understand how that's point happen? But you know, who knows I also love that. There's like some beauty and poetry in that Kayla had this house meeting to ultimately like blow up the status quo in the house. So she gets everybody together to have the house meeting. And then it's like the talk of what goes on. On what was going on in the house meeting that ultimately does lead to the stabilization in the house when Sam over? Here's the conversation about what Kaelin's house meeting ultimately was about. So even though Kaelin was ultimately completely wrong about how she saw the house really was hurt effort that leads to this made major faultline happening in terms of the game rump. She knew she knew about the this was all part of her plan figures. Thing about that wasn't her that wasn't her part to play that her part. The play was have the house meeting. That's going to get talked about that's going to get overheard by Sam that's going to start to out the pretty boys. Voice, but they are not outed yet. And by the way, wanna make sure people know this that the did a really good job of making Chauncey. Look like, she was freaking smart. And was like, oh, I can't believe this new information. That's been brought to me. That's amazing. When in reality. It was not like that at all. It was so frustrating tolsey on the feeds for the past eight hours because she is just it's like she cannot be bothered with new information. That disrupts our world view of things the big brother house and anything that contrast with that is something that couldn't be believed like a she is in fact that the boys are not smart enough to do something like this. And but to watch her on the up Assode, it looked like she bought everything that Sam said Glennon sinkers, so obviously there is a bit of a disconnect there, and I kind of bummed that they were I wanted to show the full story of what's happening not a sanitised view of Chelsea's game right now, which is pretty Chiappa. She she is having a very hard time. Leaving that the guys are smart enough to do this that she has been outsmarted by these guys? And I gotta say I can't really blame her that much because they do come off pretty poorly and part of what she's saying like, but he's so obvious about it. If that's the case. And it's like, yeah. The Dan PC, not everybody's bass or. In part of Braxton part of it too. Is that she's like what did they come in on day one and just agree to like other their whole games and against? Terrance ching knows about as happened before. The it often happens that people immediately try to grab onto a safety wrap. Just grow K. I'm not the first one out that happens all the time on reality shows is it so hard to believe I think the important thing. You're a member is that don't underestimate the your fellow players. Like, I feel like people are always snow. And they just need to. You know, always assume that people are up to something, and I know that makes people paranoid. But at the same time, it's better to be worried about it rather than to to overconfident thinking that no one else is doing anything around you. And that you're playing the hardest. And I think it also shows the difference between sort of like a casual viewer that watches the seasons on TV and like gloves the show in that sense versus being more entrenched in like paying attention to the live feeds and understanding having a better understanding of how the game works because I think most people that you'd think having watched the show she'd know that. Yes, this is something that happens all the time. But having watched the show, I think it often gets glossed over in the first with in the first couple of weeks like how things form especially in big brother, Canada, because there's not usually a lot of time to show all of what's happening. And so usually just get the end result of here's an early alliance that formed and so she thinks early lines that formed is her. Sam and Adam, and she can't fathom that something happened even before that. And the they don't even hang out in that. Like, you know, that is something that actually goes on. So it's interesting. She is still cautious. Now, though, she has talked about like I thought I was running the game. But I'm a turns out huge target something. I think the main the the show has done a good job this week of showing the relevant storylines. I think editing the season has been better than last season for sure in the sense that we're getting most of what's relevant to everything that's going on. I think a large part of that is the fact that it's a lot simpler for them to follow. And the game was more complicated. Like, it wasn't big brother candidates six maybe they would similarly have trouble with it's getting harder though. It is not because now there are three distinct powerbases in the house not just to and I'm curious like they're already screwing up, and I am a little worried that more might be forthcoming. Are you share? My. I think the main thing that they missed this week that that is very relevant to everything going on is the schism between Chelsea and Anthony where they at the beginning of the week had a good relationship, but Chelsea started to become a bit wary of Anthony because he he just he's likes to manipulate. He likes to be persuasive. He controlled the vote last week. He could have controlled the vote this week if he chose to and she was like, wait a minute. It's he seems kind of sketchy Kira is really the one that cued this up, but Chelsea really ran with it as well. And Chelsea made the mistake of going to Adam with her suspicions about Anthony. And this is one of the things she realized when she thought. Oh, Adam might be working with Dana. Anthony. Oh my God. I f up so bad. I told Adam about my suspicions about Anthony. And now Anthony is gunning for Chelsea, and he is convincing the rest of the pretty boys to get on board with that as well. So it's not just Sam in the crosshairs anymore. It's Chelsea, and it's largely due to this whole thing with Anthony and herself, but we haven't really seen on the show. But I I'm willing to bet is gonna come into play in the coming weeks. So they might come come back to it or it might be a little confusing. But that's what you listened to the podcast for to get this kind of info, right? Rub. Hey, it's a fun ride that like, oh are the pretty boys run the table. That's it. Oh, forget if this worst season ever. But then you know, is this whole house of cards gonna fall apart. And maybe it'll be really unsatisfying the actual show house of cards. Hopefully, it doesn't get nearly as dark is that whole saga. But that's what that's what we follow this show for. That's what's what's fun about big brothers. Especially that we get to see how place day by day. Yes. Have you satisfying winds or satisfying h wins without being frustrated? Many many many many many times you'll be rushing way more times. Exactly. So when you when you finally do get what you want. It's like, oh happy days are here again. But you would feel like that. If you always get what you want can have the good with the bad. Yeah. They try to push these twists sunny to make everything good. But then turns everything bad. So understand what the hell they were doing with. This twist. I'm sorry. I just like Canada doesn't do small twists. They do massive like game changing twists. And then I keep in mind. I'm not complaining. Well here. Let me explain it. Okay. All right. Okay. We have Lille ans lounge. So every week we need a reason to get somebody into Leon's Lange. So we can talk about Leon. Yeah. So you know at the beginning of the season. I was like who who is Leon. Yeah. Leon not the brick or and I'm talking about the brick anymore. Leon will we see Leon himself come in host veto competition? Taryn? Yes. Definitely see Leon the is gonna come in actually. And he's going to he's going to around some people up. We need. So every week come up with more reasons for Leon's lounge appearance and almost like that it's like this science experiment where it's like, okay. What we voted for Damian twice. So next time. It comes to who. Do you want to send back to Leon Lange? I got it. How about Damian and keep sending him back? Every week Damian goes to liangalo, that's probably it's probably a sponsor thing. That's probably it. God damn. Like again, I feel like people are underestimating the potential impact of this twist where if this had ruined somebody's game that was running the house which had very well could of then we would be saying what a massive game changing over the way overpowered twist. But it just didn't have a play that way which happens all the time on big brother, Canada and bigger the US. Although Brent no, better sponsor than the home furnishings store for the person that could be furniture. Yes. Yes. I'm here for that. Fair. I get rob. I share your consternation over this. I don't understand it look to I watch. I'm joking around. Don't come for me Twitter. I'm having just having fun. Okay. But maybe Taranaki about on the feeds these seems like a great guy to to watch easy. The you know. Jerry television. You know? Yeah. You know, what I was saying this morning in what I really been saying ever since the pretty boys were exposed is that Damian is really the key to getting this information out there because the the young bloods, Estienne KiKi, they trust Damian, and they really trust Dane Dane has been completely in their blinding them to the world. They all of their information funnels in and out through Dane and Damon is really the only other person that they've put any amount of trust in other than Anthony. So outside of the pretty boys. He's the only one they really talked to. And so if Chelsea and Sam went to Estienne KiKi to say, hey, the guys are running the show. They have a secret alliance. Estienne KiKi would be like thing. True. Yeah. Those that Chelsea she's the worst. We hate her. But if they went to Damian Damian would one hundred percent believe it because he has that a little bit of information stowed away from the first week that I do think people are a little harsh on him for like. They they expect him to know the identity of four personal lines. When he saw a one conversation briefly for like between two people that didn't seem like it went anywhere. But I'm willing to bet that between that and all of the hey got to stick with the boys Damian all that talk. He would present believe them, and he has a lot more proof to bring SDN KiKi. And they trustee me. And that if he went to KiKi said, hey, the guys are always talking about boys stuff Chelsea and Sam I've talking about how they overheard a conversation between Adam, and Dan, I think Esten KiKi would finally start to see the light here. The problem is Sam and Chelsea suspect. The Damian might be a part of these boy alliances and that they don't think they can trust him fully. So they're concerned, and they don't really wanna go to him. So I think he's the key. But the nobody sees that. The key Melissa I was going to say, yeah. But what are the odds that Sam in Chelsea are going to go to Damian? It's unfortunate because that really is the key to unlocking KiKi Esti that otherwise KiKi an SE or just you know, in their own little world. They don't wanna work with the other girls or anything. It's. It's a little disappointing with KiKi. Dee. I'm a little disappointed in them right now. I don't think they're playing a very smart game. And I'm a little sad to see that. They don't seem open to anyone else except early day in Damian. They turned down working with Eddie. They turned down working any of the girls. I I I've not I don't have a lot of faith in those two right now, which is unfortunate because I really liked them. So oh well. Anthony has a lot of influence with them as well as Dane and something else that was happening this week. And as I mentioned just this morning was that Anthony was really considering flipping this vote, and he basically talked about how the reason he wanted to do it is because everybody's already voting Damien out. But I can flip this vote. If I want to we've been talking about Anthony is like a little high in his own supply a little bit. Like, hey, I I'm manipulating people in it's working. I want to keep doing this. It makes me feel good. And so he's like, hey, I can flip this vote if I want he went to KiKi they were open to it Dane is open to it with all of those people on board. He can flip this vote. He's got Cory in his back pocket at this point. So if you want to flip the vote, and so what he's saying is if I flip the vote than I'm responsible for saving Kaelin, she'll OMI she'll owe me I'll make sure that she targets Chelsea and Sam and Kira and not Adam. And that's that's what we can do. Moving forward. Luckily for Damian he had some good talks with Adam and Adam would not budge. He said, no, we need to keep Damian in the house. It's not worth upsetting the house. Mark felt similarly Mark didn't really want to rock the boat too much, and he explained all the seasons. Yes. Exactly. And he and he helped explain his thought process by talking about World War Two and how he's a philosopher and not not a rally robber, you a philosopher or a rally. Really rally much. Thinker. Or a manipulator? Definitely thinker. Yeah. I agree with you and spirits. Rob. I I was gonna say that I feel like that looking at this decision that I feel like somebody who does not know the like every in and out of the landscape. Think is a mistake to vote out Kaelin here if you are the pretty boys because the thing about Kaelin is super visible target much like the United. We talked a lot about the brigade and how Brendon and Rachel being in that house. We're just such a a visible target for people to go after really helped to hide the brigade in that house yet Kaelin who's like, hey, it's you know, Chelsea is going to win this game. You have a hers, even if she's talking about Adam and Chelsea issue. She doesn't she doesn't have a good read about what's going on. But then you have Damian just gonna slink back under the radar. Ultimately, he's going to be a vote who's going to be up for grabs. That's going to rob ably be voting against the free, boys. When everything is said and done. So I think that they would have been much better off keeping Kaelin around. Yeah. And we talked about that. And I think Anthony did kind of see that even though I don't think ailing would be indebted to Anthony think that was a mystery. But I do think that you're right that that you have the right read here, Damian is a much bigger threat to the pretty boys than Kaelin first of all as I talked about. He's the key to exposing them. They have talked way too much today me, and he knows Leon's lounge and the Keita Leon's launch. He knows about the blood veto. He's a much better competitor than Kaelin much more capable of winning the competition and targeting the guys and Kaelin was more. A little more focused on Sam, and Chelsea and was able to be swayed a bit more than by Anthony than Damian is. So it really was better for them to keep to keep Kaelin around. The problem was first of all as I mentioned Damian who Damian has great social game doesn't know much about how to play, but he's very convincing. He's very he can make people he can put people at ease. Really? Well, and he did that this morning. He really got Adam feeling super comfortable with him to the point that Adam wants to bring him in to the pretty boys. Anthony has to be like, whoa. Slow your horses. We can't tell them too much or he'll be able to expose us. Which is totally the case because he would expose them the initiation into the pretty boys and all the initiation. According to Anthony is no, no. You can't just go talk to me. You have to bring me up like, hey, Anthony's a wildcard that's a cool player. Maybe maybe we should talk to him. We need to pretend that this was not already going on. And then we could be like, hey, marks cool guy. Let's talk to Mark. So I think being a cool guy is step all lines names. What are you guys guys? How about pretty boys? Like oh daily. You're really pretty. Yeah. Totally. So yeah, I just wanted to say some really good work by Damien too. I mean, he could have gone home today. Does the wrong thing. And we saw what happened last week with some idiot player who didn't know how to say the right thing when the Sam Sam at one point this morning was one hundred percent voting to victim, Ian, and keep Kaelin and Damian just completely flipped back around here. So here's my question. And I was making fun of Damian earlier in the podcast. You guys would know this better than then I would. So is this agency on the part of Damien Orsi just chill guy who sort of like has like a kind. You know is knows what to say. But it's not really part of you know, some sort of like strategic plant. I think he is a guy that is learning agency because he like like when when he talks to adamant Sam he was lying straight to their face. And he's talking about I'm a man of my word, you saw with the Macchi vote, and they believe him they believe him because of the maquis vote, and he's using it just as Dan. This is a classic move at this point lots of people. Do it even Wendy survivor did it at this point. But but Damien he used it and he lied straight to their face. And then he went to Eddie. And he knows that Eddie wants him to go. After salmon adamant, he was like, I'm not going to he didn't want to incriminate himself to Eddie just in case Eddie would expose him and get him to go home. But he was like what we've talked about before still on course. And so he understands what he needs to do. The problem is that I think he was coming. He's he's a little late to the game. Right. He didn't make super great bonds with people. He didn't forge these alliances. I think he's catching onto the game. But he still has a big uphill battle ahead of him. But I do think he'd has. He's learning the agency as he goes here, Melissa, do you agree. Yeah. I think so I mean, I could definitely see him being a the kind of person like we talked about this every every time where it's like the person doesn't know the game. But they learn as they go, and I could definitely see Amy and being that person. I don't think that he is. A prodigy by any means or anything like that. Like, I'm not like super impressed doing. But I do think that with his personality coupled with the fact that he seems to be picking things up as he goes, I think he could do really well, but it's one of those wait and see kind of things because it's possible that nothing could come of. And he really is just like a cool guy who just people tend to like because he's Joe guy, and he's not making any way. And when it comes down to it, and he is on the block in a situation where he is the target. Maybe he's not going to know what to do. And maybe he's going to shoot himself in the foot because he's just going to do what he normally does which is not really that much. So you never know. But I'm interested to see where he takes his ING. Turn a bitch for moment about somebody who's really annoying the living crap out of me and the big brother house. I do not understand. Why twitter? Would you wanna guess it is is it KiKi? Yes. It is KiKi it is. And I have figured out. Why peaking the Brentwood spor- on Twitter? I I do not understand. Why Twitter is standing this girl? Like as she literally is like intern said, she's like everything deigned tells her she treats his gospel. Now, everything that Anthony tells her she treats us basketball, and I finally figured out what is going on. So this was sent to me by Andrews shimmy on Twitter, and he said, I figured he may eight this comparison because you're saying that KiKi occasionally annoys you always always be nowadays. So he said that KiKi is the Mattie of this season of big brother Canada for these reasons. Number one. She initially was love received for being a superfan. But obviously that in really go anywhere. Number two. Can't win a veto even winning aggressive. Woman is trying to throw it to her three cries everywhere about her position game for both proclaims in the diary room with her Paris slash ST that she masterminded Sam into using the veto on her. And by the way, has no actual loyalty to Chelsea in San when she cannot afford to be picky about her allies in the game right now. So I can go see in this girl. She's terrible big brother, and if she had gotten power, I think she would have done exactly the wrong thing with it. So I can't I don't know if for me, if you're comparing to Mattie, what you're saying is that she's actually a lovely person. And. Yes, I told natty to her face to face but on Twitter. Based on Twitter page on Twitter. She's a lovely person. But I did not enjoy her on my television screen. I do not I'm disappointed in Kiki's ability to be lexical. It seems like she's not willing to change course. Like once she said on something. And so I think that she's like this is my person as the these are allies, we are not going to work with these people because I don't like them, or whatever reason she doesn't seem to be the type two. To fake nice with people, which is not good and big brother. I mean, she was like who pooing Eddie. She was, you know, not interested in working with Chelsea or cheat around here like she's not interested in working people. And once she sat in her mind that I'm not working with this person. She refuses even like fake nice with them when they're trying to possibly work with. That's what you need. Exactly. Maybe it's not a big deal. She can't be nice. No. That's exactly we'll be all about be thing is she needs fake is why I'm disappointed because she doesn't feel the need to be flexible. And instead is like no, I'm not ever working with that person is cooped up. Just like Mattie was. Paris her with her girl branching out to other people in the house besides day. How do you feel about cure S as they started cure w as the call her because for whatever reason they won't they refused to go with KiKi, which is so much easier. Refusal KiKi on the show. Yeah. Y A W W incur- houseguests calls Ricky, look, I don't have any issue with her like Brent has. And I also think that Maddie from big brother candidates six is lovely. Yes. All you saw the veto episode last night, right? Where Sam was trying to throw because never really talked about this a hard puzzles are hard. They are. But Sam basically sitting there for twenty minutes, I said on Twitter that this reminded me of a big brother candidate three when Jordan through the veto that ultimately sent him home. And he just lied there for twenty minutes to do nothing to throw the veto. This is like if Jordan ended up winning that veto because Sam still end of winning after trying so hard to throw it to KiKi. And it just really was not a good look for KiKi. No, it was not it was not her strong suit. What are you? What are you going to do you want to invite her over for scrabble if you can get her? Well, I I think to be fair to KiKi she the the word she couldn't get was house guest. And I think the reason is because never says houseguests she always says agent agent. Yes. Like, where's how come? No. What's what's a house guest? I'm an agent agent. Kiki? What what is this wished worrier up? A you. It's called the blind side. Yeah. Can we talk? Can we get there because I wanna talk about spoilers one more thing? I wanted just briefly ring up is. We've talked about this before. But like, rob I want to know if you maybe have an answer about this. Why do they play a sound effect of booing after every vote? It's so bad in this episode alone. They left the sound effect running after they cut to the screen where the audience was sitting there doing nothing, which was embarrassing by itself. You could hear the fate out on the clip. After the the final vote like it was like, I don't understand if first of all it's obviously fake. But also, why even have the booing? It's like they want us to be disappointed. I don't understand it. Rob. Do you have an answer for me? Not a good one just that they're you know, they're doing what they're doing. We're not gonna change things up on the fly hair. And and I think that we are in the like on one percent of the people that are even aware that this is happening. So. Look like they have fans when they leave. They want people to feel like, oh, no, no. I guess so that's the only the only vote vote for Damian again. It's like, you know, man. What is the point -ment, even though like people for the most part more in the audience like know what's coming or you know, none of these votes that have happened. So far have been devastating boats. So it's kinda just like, you know, a, well like this person leaves we all seem that was going to happen. All right, macky, by whatever, you know. It's like these aren't boo boo -able boat booth. I checked his podcast is the Buhl bull. Alright. So let's let's get into the spoilers here. Rob do you have a do? You have the song for us. I do I do this long on on four Oilers. Should we should we ask our live audience? If they're ready for the spoilers. Oh, I guess I guess this is disappointing. And you guys don't want it. Funny. Okay. All right here. We feel about it. Terrence really make sure make sure you tune into Morrow morning at eleven AM eastern. I will update you want everything that happens today on the feeds and tune in of course, on Monday night for the next round table podcast as well. You can find us on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, rob is at Rochester Nino brand. One lucky gay Melissa Melissa with three as let's get despoilers. Rob. The office of civil defense has issued the following message. This is play. Boiler wanted means that actual toiler husband and that protective action should. All right. We have a new head of household. Yes. And if you watch the video version of this podcast, I don't know what the time stamp is. But you saw my reaction to the final round. So as you saw KIRO was the first to go out. I believe they were followed by Eddie, Eddie, Anthony, we lost a lot of people along the way the final four came down to. Deign Sam Corey and somebody else that didn't. So then the final two way down Daymond. Yes, Damian was still in it Damien went out in third place. And then we came down to Dane verses. Sam Dane who has been obsessed with getting Sam out from the start. Sam is the only name ever on his tongue and Sam who after finding out about this boys alliance really wants to go after Dane and Anthony, but in particular, Dane, the two people going after each other in the final two of this competition, rob. Who do you? Accurate this time, Dane. Told on the feeds as we speak. He is with Anthony in a bedroom. And they're like. So it would have been like chef's kiss. If Santa one this guy. I was praying for HOA Charon. It would have been great Dane would have been so. I have been hard on. Over her and to have her wind power and actually go after him because I know that would have been safe under her. Oh, it would have been flory's. It would have been really impresses them lately. I've been I know you know, what I haven't. I thought that no matter what she would be under autumn spell. And I think that even if I thought that even if she had heard Adam talking about her she would have run straight to Adam and been like, I heard you talking. That's not true. Right. You weren't actually going to me. And like, no, of course, not. And then boom like she's right back in his in his grass. And if that does happen she and she does go back to him. And it's like oh. And she tells him everything then I'm going to take all this back of never said it. But I really was impressed with the fact that she she came right to Chelsea and she was like steadfast in. We need to get them out. I'm not gonna tell Adam anything like we're gonna do this. And yet sucks to find out the person that you thought you had something really special with or whatever. Apparently, we're talking like babies and stuff like that like getting married and whatever like they find out that the whole time they've been playing. You that's devastating. So I totally get that. She sat about it. But the fact that she it's motivated her to play like that's what I was hoping for all along. And the reason why I was down in the beginning was because she was willing to hand out of her game on a silver platter? So I'm really I'm really glad with this new Sam. And I just I just wish she had wanted to. And also I wanted to say that her winning would have been so great because I mean, the whole house I do feel like would have broken open. But s things currently stand right now, it's just going to be more of the same Twitter is going to be and it's going to be like we're waiting for a new age age. I still do not understand for the life of me. And I said this before I'll say it again. I know that Dane has brought up the fact to at that. Hey, girl, we're going to have to get rid of her soon. That's a problem. Adam has in the theoretical. He said, yeah. But now, it's reality. It's you really going to just stand by and be okay with someone who is in his back pocket. Insane them these totally in Adams back pocket really going to be okay with Dane targeting or trying to back door Sam. How the hell is that going to happen here? Here's what I'm most annoyed about is that I've been making fun of Anthony Dane for weeks now with their obsession with Sam. And now when they finally have the opportunity they have walked asked backwards into the right move because they just happen to figure them out right now. I'm still annoyed about it. We'll give you credit your your completely right about the fact that Sam did not because I would have been the normal typical thing to go right to to to your she has on on. She has softened animal little bit. But I. And the other thing too is that she has been unable to contain herself because she wants to bitch amount. So bad Adam talking about. Trying to she's trying to keep it in. So just comes up to Adam like, she's being a little weird. He doesn't understand the whole ramifications of what is happening. You're not so dense you probably could figure out. Oh, maybe she's onto me. And that would give carte blanche to get rid of her this week if Dame was to go after her, but again as things stand, I don't I I'm curious to see what the fallout is. If Dane really does want to go after Sam, I'm hoping she can stay in the house. But we rarely give what we want. So. So I do I do say it's an answer to your question. I think. I was going to do this. Well, I I think that the target might be Chelsea, I think that Anthony in particular. He heard like I said queued up earlier he knows that Chelsea has been talking about him. He knows that Chelsea is a big threat as well. Anthony has really been preparing the whole house for let's get Chelsea out. And so I think that there's a very good chance that the nominees are even as far as Chelsea and Kira in order to get Chelsea out. And if KIRO comes off the block or Chelsea comes off the block than Sam goes up, and maybe Sam leaves, but outwardly I think that Chelsea might be the direct target and that kind of sidesteps the issue. It weakened Sam. And and it doesn't force Adam to a weird spot. And if it does happen that the veto was used in a way where Sam ends up going on the block and his perhaps the targets like well, sorry, man. We did our best we went after Chelsea, but Chelsea safe. So I feel like that might be the plan here. Rob it seemed like you had you had. Something to say here. Well, I feel like that we're talking about this yet that I'm getting a lot of people in my Twitter and on the chat feeling like that. This is under some sort of a controversy of Danes win here that I see people saying that Jane hit the buzzer at the wrong time, and I see fans angry asking for some sort of a review, which friends I'm sure we'll go immediately to the producers of Canada. Well in fairness to the producers, they do take this very seriously. But as this competition was played two seasons ago and big Canada. And I never remember hearing anything about a rule where you could hit the buzzer. You could sit there and tap the buzzer all you wanted. But it wouldn't mean Jack unless you hit it when the alarm went off. And if you were the last one hit it when the alarm went off, then you are out. So I don't think there's there's no meat on this phone, rob. Jane did not cheat. He did not hit the ball. I mean, he might hit the buzzer to soon. But that didn't matter. There was no rule against it. So Danish h live with the people. Yeah. I mean, this this should go without saying. But if you saw it on the feeds and the houseguests saw and nothing happened that mean not to rules. Yeah. He apologized for for God's sake. You don't think big brother's solve this. No. But of course, a lot of. People in Twitter, saying Dane, cheated. Oh boy. Yeah. Well. But he said point about Chelsea by texting Alexander now to get rid of those Chelsea stocks. Let's no I that would be really terrible if Chelsea went home because I think she's played a fun game a little bit dense at times, but a fun game. And she's obviously respected in house. I think of would be a great move for him to go after her damn doesn't cause a fracture within the pretty boys, and Chelsea girl, you endanger. So I will I will say this that Chelsea and Sam they have this knowledge. They have this information about the guys they have this theory at the very least the guys are working together Adam has been insisting that they can trust. Dane, if they don't feel if they feel like they still feel confident about the guys are working together. And yet Dana still coming after them. Then even I think part of why Sam has backed away little part of why Chelsea is backed away. A little is that they feel like well at the very least, hopefully if it is true. It means we're being protected, right? But very clearly if Dane comes after them, they are not being. Protected Sam, and Chelsea will be very upset about this. And they will go to Adam about it, and this will blow up, and they I'm willing to bet will not go quietly into that good night. They are going to tell everybody that has any ears on their head that the guys are working together. And they have to do something about it. And the more that they showed that the more that this does limit the pretty boys power, even if it doesn't completely expose them. Even if it doesn't turn the house against them. They have such freedom of movement right now. Yes, if it gets out there if people start screaming, hey, these guys are secretly working together severely limits. The capabilities that they have to manipulate the house in the way that they are and like the best players in the world to begin with. So I do think there's still a lot of drama that can happen this week and a ton that can happen especially moving forward into a double vision next week. We're in can't compete. That's true. I didn't can compete into double of action. I a fair point. Also, the thing is that they don't have quite the right information. They are correct. The three guys Anthony day. Gene and Adam working together. They're correct about that. But they don't know number one that Mark is working with them never to they think that Damian might be working with him. And he's not. So their theory of the case is a little muddled. It's like looking glasses that just aren't quite right for you. And I don't know if they present something like that. I feel it could just be who, you know, girls. You're crazy. You don't know what you heard because they don't know what to press there have been been Marcus there. They don't know that Damian isn't art of it. It's just a muddle. So if they are able to successfully use this or you know, cause more is to be on the pretty boys. I feel like it will be more by way of accident. Not by anything they're doing because they don't have all the they don't have all the tools stare. Yes. Melissa. How are you feeling about this? Well, they're already saying that they're going to nominate Kira, and Chelsea and embarrassed Sam. Kerley that's already in the works. And also Kiki's apparently saying that Chelsea came to her for girls alliance before the vote just that was there was some talk about that that Chelsea Sam and KIRO wanted to have a girls night and an approach the women about having some sort of arrangement. And so I guess I guess the attempted something a little bit along those lines before the it's definitely landed. Sounds to me like. Got nervous. Now, the new h was going to be crown decided to dip their toe in the water of. Okay. This is the prelude telling them about the pretty boys us girls working together at least not targeting. Each other Garrity ruins at all. Of course. Yes. Why are you any KiKi? She's a total. You guess whole what age? You got the information and knowledge is power in this game. Like, you keep this information to yourself. You don't like she's literally pushing away every potential ally that she could have she needs allies. It's honestly so frustrating. It's just I yeah. I can't with KiKi right now. Apparently Dane did make a deal with Sam in the final when they were the final two people left. But so Sam is like, yeah. I made a deal with him. But Dane has already talked to Anthony and said, yeah that deal is null and void. I don't care about. It. Just means giant point. He's going to he's going to swear on his father's grave and now he's going to do this. That's just that's great. Great. Great. Look. I can't wait to see for him to be targeted later on the game. And he's like, no, I'm really telling the truth is time. And it's like, no we nominating Kira, and Chelsea is such a bad move because they're already suspicious of them. And then you do that. And they're going to be like, oh, oh my God. They all are in guys alliance like they're all against us. And there's no way they're going to work with them. We'll do the I feel like that. They'll just be like sort of coddled into own overrun targeting Kira. Don't worry. Because people in the house. There's so many people in the house that ardent supposed out of their alliance that you'd think they'd be like, okay, anybody else. There's Corey there's Damian who supposedly a perpetual like theirs. Eddie, who's would nobody you? If if they target these girls they target Sam, and Chelsea and like, I don't think they're trying to get care out. So they target the girls damage Chelsea it's going to be so bad for the pretty I just think that they're making huge stake too early right now. I think the nominate should be cure an Addy because. Away. Yes, explain away, and you don't have to show your cards if the veto goes wrong. But I don't understand because if you're gonna put Chelsea about you might as well put Sam on the Bach 'cause you go into pieces anyway, I mean, I personally think Chelsea should be their target. I think that she is easily the person that represents their biggest threat in the game as somebody that has already kind of figured them out is definitely smart enough to do something about it. There. The thing that is keeping them afloat. Right now is that she's not super well liked in the house because she was just h and nominates and people in made the wrong moves because she had the wrong read on the house, but give her some time, and she could present a big threat to their games. I think she should be the target. The fact that they are considering Sam as the back door over Chelsea tells me that I think they are making a little bit of mistake here. I think Sam is a lot more easily controlled through atom, then Chelsea is especially if she's without. Chelsea. And I think that this is a make or break point in Chelsea's game. She thought she was doing really well found out just yesterday that oh man, I screwed up bad, and I'm in a bad spot. And now she's going to be nominated potentially target potentially going home and definitely going to still be in danger. Come the double vision because people love to do is Sam goes. All right, double vision. Let's just get Chelsea read out the door behind her. But if she can survive, I do think that she has the game ability to to recover and to rebuild and regroup and form something against these guys, especially because I think she knows how to speak to it. We saw a little bit on the episode of her talking like these guys these men spreading man's planning losers coming after the women like we need to stand up and unites the kind that can think. I think the person on the other end of ever seen. It would be KiKi, and I'm not trying to discount essays contributions here. But I don't feel like, you know, like Mosa said Kiki's, the kind of person who she doesn't. She doesn't like she's not gonna work with. She doesn't care if you've been a business true. So I mean, I'll look I would love to be wrong. I would love for Chelsea to save herself this week, and then go to KiKi and stuff and say, hey, we need to work together. But just are so blind. Right. I don't think they need to rely on KiKi nasty. I think as long as as long as they're able to find because they can find allies in Damian, and Eddie, and again with Damien, I think they will have a little bit more pulled with KiKi nasty. It's just a matter of I don't think they can do it now because of who's HOA JR. But like I said if you give Chelsea more time, I do think that she can figure out a way I do think that she is probably the biggest threat to their game robbing thoughts on that before before rob answers. I wanted to say really quickly that the biggest health or. Dan that she's in trouble should be the fact that it was her Dane in the final two, and she didn't just give it to her like he was already h h like five minutes ago. Her hand it still bring with her. So she should know she's an severe danger. This is a particularly tough spot for Chelsea and Sam to navigate because you have these pretty boys who are running things. And so for Chelsea, and San if they end up one or both on the Baloch, then the more they resist the more that they can gain consort of point to the fact that hey, oh, she's crazy. She'll say anything to try to get me out. So they really have to be sort of like, a smart and sneaky about how they end up approaching this. And so the more they could sort of like let their efforts like if they try to turn the whole house of against the guys that I don't think that that's going to be as successful as sort of like working with people one on one and sort of like, hey leading people. In on the secret of what's actually going on in the house. I think that that's probably the better way to try to play this think payable planning Tarrant, I don't know that Sam is necessarily capable playing it that way I think the sort of how to maybe go about this is a first of all always act like you just figured this out instead of being like, well, I figured out days ago. But when Dane puts you on the block, you are like, wait a minute. I had a deal with Dane, and you go to people like I had to deal with Dane, though, is beyond like what you guys thought like the atoms and telling us about like you explain it away. Like, you thought you were good because you know, Adams been talking about how he's got deal secret deal with Dan. And he thought you, Hugh, he was supposed to be protecting you. And so the only reason you're revealing the information now is because it's clear it was fake. It's clear that you've been duped in. You're next. You think you're in the same spot that I just thought I was in your number is going to be coming. And so I think the Chelsea really should have Sam do that. While Chelsea builds more tries to recover her relationships that have been tarnished over the course of the last week, but they do they have an uphill battle. And I do think that something worth pointing out here when we talk about the pretty boys, and I think a lot of this comes down to the formula being so successful. But really this could have all blown up in their faces this week if Sam had one this h h I think everything could have changed if we talk about this excess of the pretty boys it should not be forgotten that the first three out of four H O H is were one by the pretty boys. Like that can't be that's huge. Rob. Pretty boys free good. That's why they call them that a pretty good job. Pretty good. So far. I really do think that there is success in this. That I said this on the premier night that I think that, you know, not everybody is going for all these early h is, and it's a good way for you know, people that are really going to be gung ho and try to win his age wages, especially that they have the physical ability a win these competitions. They can really rack up the complex. I think that for Sam the big thing that she needs to worry about this week is she just still hope that it doesn't get out. She seemed three seasons of the show, and she's an okay liar. Internal her. That that that Jamie and can sit on that information families to win veto, and then take Chelsea and goes home done. Let's do that. Eddie could go home in that spot, actually. It's but I feel like it's important. It's important to like our feel like the only way something is going to happen to these pretty voices. If we have Chelsea and Sam still in the house, I did think that KIRO is making a lot of really good points when they were discussing it and keeping them on track. With like, these guys are bad. We need to get them out those currency. She'll nobody believes anything she says. I look I all I know is that I think that they on needs to win Joe and take down Chelsea saver and the two of them, look, they can probably rally votes around someone around Kira? Keep keep them like keep them, safe, whatever. But as long as those two are say because those are the juiciest targets anyway, these need to keep them state just to be fair to cure, totally. They actually a wonderful job of who haven't we talked about for the past. Like, we haven't talked about Kira? So the done a pretty effective way of. Fain back into the background Nabi a total emotional rag. Like they were the first week of the game. So just to be totally fair. And most importantly, they have been working on KiKi and ST they have been acting like they were left in the dark about the Kaelin backdoor. And that they're not as close with Chelsea as people might think KiKi and ST are buying this. And this is why is particularly why I think if this scenario happens where Sam wins the veto and takes Chelsea down. Eddie has been a big target for the pretty boys over the last week. Anthony in particular has really been kind of gunning for him to be a target. I'm seeing just right now on the feeds SD talking about Kira came up to me Kira would one hundred percent rather work with us. Yes. They were like I'm just a little bit nervous because he did put me up. They feel good about Kira? I think that if they feel like they can pull Kira in. That's what they'll tell Dane Dane will say, hey, I think that we can potentially influence Kira? And is probably the more dangerous one. They think Eddie has a deal with Chelsea which kind of does. But he's of course, not particularly loyal to any of that. But I do think Eddie would be in trouble in that scenario. So I don't think there's a really great here for for somebody to be victim not for nothing. But any hasn't been giving me out? He has been playing the game. Well, and he hasn't been giving me good TV a couple of funds. Shady comments here and there, but I I need more than that. I like anybody is been disappointing. Yeah. I like that. He this. We when he was talking to KiKi. I'm basically saying look we're underdogs and deserve to be underdogs. If we are going to let everyone let the people who are power just take us down one by one we need to band together. And of course, KiKi wasn't receptive. Outto? I know she wasn't receptive. But in fairness to her, and I'm not look, I'm not in the business of giving her proverbs, but or or any slack whatsoever. And he was really terrible not conversation as well. They were. Yeah. Clean is is that I like what he was saying. I don't think that he did a great job explaining it to her. But at the same time, it's like he's trying to extend olive branch and say like, hey, let's work together. We're going to need each other, which is true. And instead Kiki's just like a, no. And it's totally dismissive though. The problem was that he challen her world view of the way, she's sitting curly in the big brother house like he treated her like he currently is in house, and she is not him. Like he's actually gonna worst position then kick is right now because as an ally in Dane who is part of the pretty boys. Whereas any got nobody. I feel like that's where she was like. Yeah. You don't know what you're talking about get it. But it seems like KiKi totally. I overestimating her position in the how true play the game. And you know, I just feel like she needs to take a step back and be like, okay? I don't have it all planned out. I don't know what's going on and said, she's just like hanging out with us d and revealing all the information that they ever get to two Dane and to other people, and it's just it's just I'm sorry. I'm just very frustrated with her right now just expecting a lot more KiKi responded to any like Dane would respond to somebody saying Sam, isn't that big of a threat? Whoa. What? Sam is the devil. We've got a KiKi in the house. We've got a devil in the house. Check out the block memory for season. Three of big, brother. Marietto in the chat one. It's atamans veto does he take somebody down? I think the answer to that question is no that he would not on the blood. Yes. Yes. Down would go up there. So. Yes. Anything else? Rob that you wanted to talk about no fun starts in the season. Looking forward to seeing where it goes with the double Avik tion next week. Yes. Very excited for the double vision. Definitely a lot of possibilities open for that. Especially with one of the pretty boys not competing, and this has definitely the potential to be dramatic week with some betrayals some information being leaked out. I'm excited here. Melissa. Stuff like some excited. Yes. And didn't happen. Because of a twist. Yes, we were thankful for that. What they did was still dumb like that you wasted time for that. Whatever. Damian again. All right. So once again, you can you can of course, join me live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern where I will update you on everything that happens tonight on the feeds I'll let you know about what the plan is. And how Adam is responding and what Chelsea and Sam doing all the good stuff? So make sure you tune in tomorrow morning. And then of course, as I mentioned on Monday night, we will have our roundtable. We'll update the stock watch rate the players once again and have a grand ole time on on the roundtable. 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Sam Querrey and Eric Hutchinson

Beyond The Baseline

1:01:38 hr | 4 months ago

Sam Querrey and Eric Hutchinson

"The NBA is back and after a long strange hiatus were finally into finished the weirdest basketball season of all time and SL podcast have a front row seat join me Kris maddox on the crossover NBA show and Ben Gulliver on open floor every week for our takes from inside the bubble. That's right. We're inside the bubble and the best analysis and news on the NBA mad finish subscribe to bolt shows anywhere you can find podcast. Jon Wertheim here, and it's this week's. Illustrated Tennis podcast, we have two guests this week, a bonus guest in mainstream tennis player guest I. Am Query joins us. He is at the Greenbrier in West Virginia where he was laying world team tennis, and then as he will explain, is ready to embark on a full season starting in August, and we talked to him about what it's been like in the tennis bubble what his plans are for the rest of the season and sort of what the impact of this crazy and cratered year has been on a on a player of his status, his age. then. We have Eric Hutchinson. He's been on the show before Eric is a friend of big. Band of tennis and we talk a bit about what it's like to be a solo performer solar artists in the time of Cova probably not dissimilar to being a singles player. Eric has a new album class of one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight. So we talk a bit about the process a bit about this sort of enforced break that we are all on. What the overlaps between music and tennis. All right now and some tennis chatter with a big tennis fan. So Sam Corey versed Haircut Simpson's second. Let's start in. West. Virginia. You're. In the bubble. I am. Tennis bubble. Let's let's start the president as a been. IT'S BEEN AWESOME You know for me I hadn't told a match in. Australian Open because my wife had a baby in February also I mean it's been five months. So I was excited to go I think all the players here are are really loving it and it's fine and we're finally back plans some competition and it's been great i. mean the I've never I don't know if you've ever been here. I. Know I haven't most you'll have in, but the resort is awesome So it is a bubble but at the same time you can there's golf fishing a bunch of restaurants you can go. You know skeet shooting eighteen. So you're you don't feel like you're just you're playing tennis and going back to your room. There's so much to do outside tennis, which is really made it fun for everyone because we are here for for three full weeks. And it's great to be back in absolute competition and. Going to court I mean it's going great so far. Some sounds like summer camp widsom competitive tennis thrown in. That's exactly what it feels like especially 'cause you're you're in the mountains that it's got a very, very much camp field. We're we're only doing this audio. I have to say you're your backdrop is tremendous. It looks like I mean you can kind of see like. Beautiful. No it's. It's this part of the I've never been here like I said it's I mean we went ATV and a few days ago, and you go up in the mountains in the views and. I. Spectacular. Doesn't sound like a bad way to spend July. What's been the? What about sort of the training, the nutrition, the hydration everything that comes with competitive playing how have you been able to deal with? With that. I, mean for me personally that's been that's been tough. The last like months to find the motivation for practice knowing or not knowing when we're GONNA. Start. You know you're kind of always like like apprenticed for like, wow not studying for I'll just as the next day and then I do the next day. So you know the last two months I haven't practicing hard but there's there's a practice shape and there's match shape. It's hard to really get back into your match shape until you play match. So. I'm doing the best. I can I've got Christian Cossio who travels with me as like a physio here with me. So we've been in the gym every day and working on my body. So physically actually feel fine because you know the team that I'm on I'm only playing singles every day. So I've literally got a thirty minute sets of five. And that's all the tennis I'm playing. So off days and even some matchdays I'm finding the other guys have updates in in an extra and extra practice and spending time in the gym and trying to make the most of it won't here. What's the level play? Overall? It's been high I. Mean I've played tennis twenty years because of the incentives this year online means finals, winters, It's intense. The teams are into it i. mean every you really feel like everyone's kind of laying it out there and It's made it better. You know I it's fun of the past but these incentives, I, it's it's up the level and there's a few more come on. There's a the teams kind of gathering around over a little bit more. So it's it's been really fun and I hope they continue to do is incentives can. Stays at this level. Yeah. I mean I was GONNA. Say, this is an interesting. You're a world team tennis veteran. This is unlike any other season you've had you just. League can. Use this crazy. This crazy three weeks as a springboard. I hope. So I. Mean Look at Fred Leading Eric Davidson behind it and they love tennis and You know they seem to have the financial backing to help move it forward in a good direction and Like the nave because of what happened, I mean the level and the talent they have this year is like no other year they've had world tanks. See this type of caliber players for a full season. So hopefully I mean I everyone that plays this year know especially those top players are GonNa say oh. My God this has been fun like this has been a great. Few weeks of practice, it's fun to be on a team and hopefully for the years moving forward, they're going to those top players GonNa WanNa do it again. Give, give us your your like top top four players of the season. If you're writing in your MVP, votes would be Gosh I would have to look at kind of like the the win loss record. you know Bethany Matic Santa's up there because she's just it seems like every mixed doubles in every doubles cheese. You know winning most of those. Sets. closers was up there until she got her she was just on fire. So I'm still GONNA put closers in the mix and then. Not so I'M GONNA try to I'm trying to think of a guy that's. been somewhat dominant. I can't tell I. Don't know I would need to look at like. He's been winning losing. Look I was just looking at your roster so. You haven't played played a lot of double for a good reason. Right. You're obviously on the LAS, Vegas team with a pair of twins. AM. I am I right here I. Mean I I. Don't know if Bob and Mike have talked about not not that your publicist but. I. Don't know if they talk about their plans for the rest of. The rest of the year. Is it possible this could be there Swanson now. No. No I think they're definitely planning on playing play next year. They have they come around on that. All right. Good. Yeah Not You know they've kind of joked about it but I I, it sounds like they're gonna kind of this was last year pushing into next year. So hopefully, we'll get another year of. What's been the? What's been the biggest adjustment? I mean you're you're obviously you're this was not the crowds are used to. This is not the level of technology. What's what's been the biggest adjustment? What's what's something that maybe hasn't been industrial at all The biggest adjustment as far as world team tennis. Yeah. I mean the played the play those and in southern California a few months ago I, mean what? What's what's been tough and what's actually been something surprisingly easy. I mean. The toughest part is gonNA come out like firing here because it is only a set five you feel like if you. Lose your I I for second service game. You like Gosh like I don't have time to get back into it. I've let my team down. So you got to A. Two. minute. Warm up you get. You gotTa make the most of it. Move your feet, get going go after it and even before that you. I mean most people are are kind of going around to the side and really warming up like you're coming out with like a sweat ready to go unlike kind of normal tournaments where you can almost ease into a match the first few games on both sides. So that's Kinda I feel like the biggest change and. You know. I would say. The normal part is like you kind of go through your normal routine as far as like. An hour and a half before you do that you hit lunch you know. It's it's pretty casual but. It's. I would say that the biggest thing that's kind of what I said at first it just you got to step on the court from one ready to go. you you bencher your new father congrats. I imagine that made the the shelter at home a little different but perhaps yeah actually I got him right there. You got the gang here. Yes my wife and signer here. I mean, it's a good place to take your family like I said with all those things to do, and we're actually staying in A. Resort giant kind of like a little cottage. So we got like a bedroom and living room. So it's nice to have some space when he goes asleep we. Eat Out in the living room and not have to whisper. That's clear is going to get as first Google hit. What I'm trying to do the math in my head five, five months, six months exactly five months. Yeah. Man I imagine this is major your shelter at home your copay you're a little different. Definitely. Yeah. Like most players you would have missed the handful of weeks or months beginning of your new your news daughter's life but I've got to be home. Pretty much every single day. So that's been often and this is this is his first trip. You know and it's a it's been fun safaris not sleeping great here to what he was doing and but that's just. That's just part of. Being a new parent, but it's it's been awesome to have my wife, and for here they come down. The matches that you know the times kind of matches matches rights where not napping or sleeping they come down and watch and otherwise you know they stay in the room and. Roll around on their on their tummies and we. We're we're all looking for silver lining in Kobe. It looks like so hard. That's great. Yeah exactly. You. Talk about the Bryans you are like I guess what you're. You're coming up on thirty three. This strange cratered year is going to affect careers. I mean is this sort of six months of sabbatical that you get to tack onto the end or do you think of as players get older? This is this is a critical period. I'm not sure how it's going to play I definitely think it's the older you are the tougher this little sabbatical office been I know like for me it's. Early. Sometimes, it's tough to find the motivation and all the time off. You might feel a little rusty i. only got a few years laugh I feel like I just missed. Six months of including a Wimbledon and the. You know possibly a French Open where if you're twenty one you you know you've missed the time, you're pass what I'm you know and I've got I've got twelve more years of. Of plane all these for me personally I'm. You know I'm. Extremely bummed that I missed all these and especially. I don't know how much longer I'm going to play. Call it three years for. Free just think of this, and if you miss a Wimbledon thirty, three percent of my women's I had left for God. And so know I'm Bob, it has been fun to be home with my family, but at the same time they were planning on traveling to Europe so I was going to be with them anyway. so. I. I think it'll be tougher for the older guys, but we'll have to see how. Start going. What's been the fitness level out there you talk about the level of play what's been? I mean, you know you guys aren't playing five matches on clay but what's what's been the fitness? It's tough to tell because. There's such short sets, but it is. It is hot out here. It is humid. So you do feel it a little bit but. For. The most part seems to be in good shape no one's. No one's. No one seems to be struggling physically, but the sets are too short to even. To even. Say. So we are we h ally man. They're singing your song. Yeah. What what's the game plan for the rest of the season? More days here and then I'll head home. and. Then it sounds like the US. As their decision on the US Open in a few days. So I'm crossing my fingers that we've got Cincinnati. and. The US Open and I'm planning to go plays many terminal like can't I hope to play. Cincinnati. US Open Madrid Rome. French Open And then I know they don't have a schedule plan out after that we have account called all in which we're GonNa talk about that but if If that means it's Stockholm Vienna, Paris at the end of the year I'm Gonna I'm GonNa hit them all just because I've had so much time often I'm here to play and. Like I said again, I'm an older I, don't know how many how many I have left I wanNA make the most of it. Fairly typical from your conversations. Is what is that fairly typical from your conversations that? It's you know it's it's it's almost August here. Let's play some tennis. Yeah it's It's tough to gauge what the players. There's a handful of them that are. You know I only want to go back unless the. You know basically, we have a vaccine, it's very safe and all these rules are in play, but it's it's hard to put an exact playbook in when when no one knows. What the viruses and how it works but yeah, I'm I'm definitely more on the side of like let's get going. Let's figure it out. You know we're we're going to have a tournament. There's probably GonNa be some guys and coach. And women that. Test Positive. Hopefully, no one gets deathly ill but you know it's time to adapt and figure out how to play during this. Go back to camp and I appreciate the time and we'll we'll talk soon. Okay, thanks to Sam Query from summer. Camps left World Team Tennis in West Virginia, there were some Wifi issues as you might expect from summer camp in West Virginia but good of Sam to spend some time with us to give us a little introduction to Ford Query his son born in February and toxin shop next up Eric Hutchinson you know Eric has been on the podcast before he is A. Solo artist WHO's toured with every pop star you can think of his one of his biggest hits anyway was about his wife watching Roger Federer the watching watching him which he performed for us live in studio back when we did things like live in-studio Eric has a new album out idol class of nineteen, ninety eight. So we talk US tennis of Ninety tennis and talk about the overlap between being a solo artist. As musician and being a single player, especially what the process in what the thought process is like in in the time of Kobe so. Here's our in. Our area, they do it. I'm good. Thank you for having me. Let's talk tennis in a minute we I was thinking we have Steve Lincoln. Last week who's talking about as Sampras book it's just coming out what what's it like for you? What's it like that? Put out an album in the middle of Kobe twenty twenty. It's been frustrating experience. It's certainly not the worst thing going on in the world right now but on a personal level. Yeah it's been frustrating have had to delay the album a couple of times. and. It's a little weird. I can't can't tour right now and and do that. But. I'm just glad the album is out I. Think it's Nice to have some distractions right now and out in particular class landy eight is a bit of. Time machine back to a completely different era. So it is a nice way to sort of escape reality for a few minutes. We could use a time machine I'm guessing you're talking mostly musically that this is a a nod to the nineties and tell me. It's An alternative Brock Time Mission Union I feel like. MTV You got mad man or you know movies you can do. You can do a period piece, but it's not really done in music that much and this is like I specifically tried to recreate a nineties alternative rock album. And I wrote the songs for it and so I've just been spending a lot of times mentally in the nineties kind of remembering I was in high school at that point and. Just remembering all things ninety because I I love the nineties. But I I'm these now that I'm not in the many more. Ninety is obviously the last. The pre digital decade right. This is the last decade before the Internet becomes a full-blown thing even though you know buddy email in the late nineties but What impact has that had on music. Well. That was one of the things when we're making this album was this all about ninety stuff that I love those nineties musicians? Do Tools in editing and everything was still being played live in the studio. So we had a lot of discussions about that about trying to do as much of it locked. and. Without tweaking in definitely no auto tuning and things like that. I think there's been I. Mean I think there's lots of amazing music. Now I like to say there's better time to make music I. Think to me this this sort of style of Ninety S. Alternative. GRUNGE would. Was it. So personal to me is kind of when I was coming of age and it just feels. Nostalgic in a way that kind of like hurts my heart a little bit you know. Their Tennis Tien here arena style for Salesperson Agassi and Stephie attempts in the nineties. Yelling at it is interesting to think about now you as we're sort of. Thing from the big Ford of the Big Three of the big who knows what and there's always this thing of like it'll never be as good as this. I certainly felt that way in the nineties about sampras-agassi. I was an Agassi Guy I'm here to talk after after your last interview about the Sampras book, but I was a Agassi guy after I, read his book I understood why? was because he was tortured artists. And just didn't didn't have it all together and sort of a flawed player in person I love that about him you know. That's that's what I was drawn to all like rock and roll image thing but more just that he. He didn't win all the time. So in when he did win, it was even better. You you're okay with somebody with some dense. Think it was exciting especially. This I think tennis is always trying to like. Put this stiff upper lip and say like all we only do things a certain way in every now, and then there's sort of pushed the boundaries which I I personally think is exciting the sport and important for the squirt. We're talking about. Tennis and athletes getting back to to some semblance of normal and and making accommodations as we are as we are speaking the you know the Miami. Miami marlins are. Testing. Positive left right and center for for Co bit in baseball might be imperilled. What are you going through as? As but not an athlete, but as a musician who also to deal with things like traveling in performing indoors at all the the absurdities what's has been like for you. I mean it's been a major shutdown than in the way things are in. The, baseball stuff is is very depressing to me and frustrating, but it's also this reminder that like we can't quite get back to life as as we used to know it and and there's this you know I'm interested in trying some of these outdoor shows. People are doing things like playing at drive ins and different sorts of socially distanced audience. Participation, but there's a reminder that you can't really cheap the virus in the IT figures out what to do so. Mainly just been home and and. It's been weird for sure I miss ns live music I miss hearing other people make music making music with other people. That's the part that really is hard for me. But I can't imagine doing you know a major tournament where you're bringing people from all over the world. It just seems like. A nightmare that's why they canceled the Olympics. Right. Yeah no someone said listen. Here's what we're going to do. We got this global pandemic here. So we're going to do we're going to have a sporting event. It's going to be in Asia, but we're going to bring everyone from all over the world including fans the athletes are August and something we call a village. Step, I could scarcely have scripted something less less Kobe friendly Is anyone what thing about sports is at least you have you know there's there's a hierarchy in their leagues and their officials making decisions. I mean, what's with music who who are the gatekeepers, but who's going to decide when it's okay to go back touring who who are sort of making these? Decisions. Yeah, that's an interesting point is a lot more arbitrary. There's certainly there's people who have been getting pressed because they're doing shows. As if it were nineteen twenty nineteen and that's been a real problem you know and there's just doing a show indoors with no sort of social distancing and just. Seeing what happens and there's people that are trying all different versions of it but yet it's I think it's really for me and my world is up to the promoters into the you know the big guys like ag and live nation. They're they're trying to figure out the best ways to do it in and have it makes sense but. You see stuff like this and and Novak's exhibition. Tournament. And the to sail this is. What happens when we everyone gets together is everyone gets sick you know and so it's A. Needs to be taken seriously I suppose. You perform over zoom obscene. What did that experience like in the how? Similar similar is that to conventional performing. I've shied away from Internet performance for so long because it's usually a pretty hollow experience for me but. I've done some stuff lately, which has been more fun. AM starting to destroy these groups, zoom things, which is Actually sort of learned how to do it from a a trivia night that you and your family hosted but. To me the best part of the doing a concert online as I did surprise fortieth birthday party for someone recently. And just getting to see all of these people interacting together and I was just sort of the linchpin in the excuse to come together. That was really fun. So to see fifteen twenty families that had actually been able to interact but they got to interact you the sort of zoom and i. kind of played the moderator and sit hi everybody and let them say hi and. Ed I was really fun. So I mean more and more. I like having the music. It's something that brings people together. Tell me more about class of Tell me more about class of ninety eight. What are we listening for in? Had we by the way we need more tennis tracks what are you? What are your What are your during hits all about your wife watching? Fedor we need another screw. It's true. My wife didn't even know I. Don't think she watched very much tennis. It's my my wife is a massive tennis fan but I was actually big ninety tennis fan and About side of DC I was just saying the other day I should. Back in the called the Lake Mason I think now it's the city open or something, but I really kick myself that I wasn't going to that. It was really in my backyard but the one time I did go I got to watch Agassi and Michael Chang just practicing actually they were just like hitting. And I remember it really well, and it was it was awesome. But actually was wondering with you what was your connection tennis in the nineties? Oh Man I was tennis in the nineties. I mean, I started sports illustrated in ninety seven. We could started covering immediately I was I. worked at the It's actually right right at the same time of calendar ride I worked at the new haven event. It would I was in college I think I was in charge of the ball kids the new haven event in like nineteen ninety-two. When Stephan Edberg was your champion I'll have you know ninety, one but no I mean it's it's to me it's like the most seductive sport and. I don't know it's interesting. I don't know how you are the same and usually you get sick of something and you get jaded and and I feel like. I'm sort of in different parts of it and different players. But I'm I'm his into tennis now as I was when I was. Twenty. One years old what about you? So we'll for you as it is soon, as you get to sports illustrated I'm here to do tennis and tennis or was it like tennis seems to be an angle that makes sense and I'll I'll figure it out. Where you sleeping in breathing tennis I, never I never told you the story now right through knows I came I came right from law school refugee who came to sports illustrated supposed to do sort of legal and investigative stories and the late. Great. And he really was great frank four and said. Well you're doing fine. You could be a generalist, but you need one sport. You can really sink your teeth into and May I make a suggestion? Do you have any interest in tennis? I said Yeah actually like tennis you know Clayton I'm in tennis why and he goes Oh my God, you gotTa Cover Tennis. Everyone is crazy. And he basically said, you know if you're if you're covering a sport sort of storytelling journalistically charitably it's it's men and women and a different ages and he said it's it's kind of a wild west but it's a great story to cover because everyone's got a story in everyone's nuts and manda that That was a great piece of advice. So I sorta volunteered for everything tennis related and. Everyone wants to cover Wimbledon not everybody wants to go cover the Davis Cup tie in Milwaukee but you're in your twenties and you just want to do anything to get some run. So I sort of started as the be tennis writer and. That's Major you covered. I mean the you know you live here as well like the US Open we we count that where you Are Yeah. So I mean you know you go out to the open every year and the t would be the cost of a subway ride. I? Think. To get him dating myself the two thousand Australian Open was if I. May, dry had to get on. A plane to go cover. Wow. But you have you done have you done all four? I've never been to the Australian, but I played at the Australian Open site was opening for Kelly Clarkson. So I got to like tour around the site and we actually played like on what did you Yeah. We played her labor works, but I didn't actually get to see any matches because we were there. When you return with Kelly Clarkson I think in yeah. Yeah. So it was cool but I've been to the other ones in I did a show in Dubai that happened to randomly be the Dubai final and so we went and saw Federer Novak in. The French Open, a couple of times been Wimbledon and the one I really would like to go to some of that. Some of that clay, warm-ups tournament Madrid Monaco rat sounds pretty luxury in fund. A. It's funny. You brought up Brought up that Rod Labor you brought up a Melbourne. It's really that you watch these. You know there's there's a Pearl Jam Documentary and they drill in on Rod. Laver. I suspect Rod Laver was barnstorming. You know. Trying to decide whether he wanted to amateur professional he never thought his name would adorn arena where Pearl Jam documentaries be held but. No I'm thinking you know people say I love tennis and to me it always is. They. They sort of fall into two camps. One of his I. Love Tennis and the next thing out of their mouth as well. I never really followed it since McEnroe Borg but you know I used to love. And then the other extreme. Which people like you who you really love and you? You know you're Philipp Kohlschreiber. We hardcore I may have to give my wife Jill Graham of the credit because she really pulled me back into the sport We've you and I talked about it. You've written about my wife, but she is a massive federal fan in. A much so that it's just we've just become really huge tennis fans and and Yeah it's really fun. It's just fun to know. All these players and different from team sports. You know like I find. I'm always thinking about that and I relate to tennis. As as a singer Songwriter, we've done a lot of its solo but just this idea that you sort of are on your own and you are only as good as your trainers that you can afford to hire and and your coaches, and you know it's fast thing on the other hand also like everyone out a shot on some way or another you know. So it's it's sort of. Mayor. Meritocracy, Mary, how do you say that where it's accuracy some level. Keep keep going with that. You see these players as kindred spirits as. As I mean to me it's like. I just think about that part of it a lot like how hard it is for like a younger. Inexperienced player who doesn't have the budget to get from tournament tournament as opposed to like these big juggernauts rolling along and it's very similar to like being opening acts. To compared to like the headline in the got the tour bus, it actually gets easier the better you get at it. In some ways, you know the pressure's higher, but also like you have money to spend on making your life smoother and It's just fascinating thing about like, okay. We're GONNA play the Super Bowl Patrick moms you're on your own forgetting yourself there. You know just make sure you're there. It's wild. I mean it takes a lot of. Independence responsibility to be a tennis player. I feel like know carrier on stuff out to the court and like I just sort of loved that thing that it's. It's very singular and there's That part of it I relate to lot of just when I stepped out on stage. Doing a show by myself, there's nothing I'm not GonNa wait out the clock either you know I have to finish the show and do the songs and Yeah part of it I really love your. no-one's calling a time out for you and no one's let you pinch hitter take a couple of plays off. Yup I, mean the the you know what I think the what you were talking about before the the finances first of all I think are a reason why a lot of these careers or prolonged right when when you don't have to wait in line and Serena Williams isn't standing at the Delta Gate She's not waiting in line for her enterprise rental car right if you have an elbow injury, you can bring an elbow expert with you on the road when you hit a certain level The flip side is that we saw during his condemning that there's some players who whose names you know. are having trouble making rent. I wonder to what extent that mirrors music where? You know you were on Tour Kelly Clarkson or you you sort of? You've seen this up-close division between. The opening act in the headliner. Those divisions are quite large and I've been fortunate enough to make a good living doing this and gun very lucky along the way in a lot of ways in and. I'm just not a person that loves to blow money I. Didn't go buy a porsche or something as soon as I made some money so I've been lucky but. Yeah I mean everyone though I think in every genre of work is still. Assuming they're going to get a paycheck the next year or something you know you sort of are making. Assumptions that you'll have a job and things, and it's just fascinating to see in which jobs. You can do and what you can't do you know and and how that line is it's been drawn. It's not a line that you could have ever guessed you know. That's what's weird about tennis is in theory would think it'd be a sport that lend itself very well to social distancing. Except people are kind from all over the place and. So it's it's confusing but I don't know I mean to you if they can get the Gulf working why can't tennis happen I? Guess they're doing somebody's is a reopened. Tournaments and things like can channel. No I mean I. Think you nailed it which is the actual act of hitting tennis balls five it's and you know Mo- most golfers are clustered in one of three states. It's a little different when. Someone's showing me a map. I think that's one hundred eleven different countries where players in the US Open came from last year I, mean I think it's just all about the. Logistics of travel, and then it's D- have to quarantine. Before you come here D. F. Quarantine when you go back to your country if you saw the Austrailia Open. came out with its guidelines for twenty twenty one and right now it seems as though unless there's some sort of athlete exemption, they can get everyone's gotta quarantine for fourteen days landing in Australia. I don't know I. Mean Can in which tennis players can afford to spend two weeks in a hotel room I. Guess. About the play a major it's one thing but that's that's a complication. Yeah, that's interesting. What's Your So let me ask you this as we speak the US Open is on. Then, we head over to the Klay events that you wish you could go to one year, and then we have a French Open what's your level of interest in tennis right now? Are you? You're going to be following this. I mean the few baseball games that have have been so far makes me think the yes I'll be excited to watch sports even though it doesn't feel totally normal. It's still nice to have a distraction and I'm just out be curious to see how many players actually up. And what that means and you know everyone's all concerned about the asterix or whatever. But I don't know I. Mean to me yet exciting and IT'S I think it's cool to see us as you know as a humanity human race sort of adapting and trying to figure out how to make these things work even if they're not the. Most important things in the world. So. Yeah. I'll be excited to watch I also have a hot tip. Fiery betting man I'd be betting on Sloan Stevens across the board because I recently realized that a good friend of Mine Jen wider strong has come on as her trainer and. I just believe in her and I've seen some of the videos of Sloan. Working out and everything. So that's my hot tip for all of you guys out there Sloan Stevens to win US Open number to. Say That would make a multiple US Open Champ All right. This is great. Where can people get class of ninety eight? Can get it anywhere. He listened to music you know stream it you can download it or go to my website Eric, Dot com but I think especially for a person of a certain age that that knows the nineties it's. Fun To stall. Time machine but I think even if you don't know the nineties, I played it for some current highschoolers than they were like yeah. It's still feels like high school all the problems you're talking about are the same so. hopefully, people will dig it even if you have old school, Green Day Thanks for thanks for doing this thank you. All right thanks to SAM. Thanks to Erica droid both those conversations Jamie. It's been a while. How are you? It has I am good. I am hanging in wearing a mask like hopefully the rest of the world are you doing? Well I feel like there these tiers of of complaining and if you you know if you have your health and you have some semblance of employment, you forfeit some levels. So in the grand scheme of things no complaints but I think you know like everyone? The world is coming apart at the scenes and it will. We can only wish for the days when we could come into the office and sit across the table and maybe even. Go to the gym on the way home I think it's it's a strange period for everyone right now and we are you know sort of look at the calendar and we're five months into this already. So that's that's a long answer, but we're doing okay, were eager to. Have a little more progress on resolution here as out. I think you hit it right on the head. You. Let me ask you this. Do you have world. Team tennis fever. Yeah. I mean okay. First of all, thanks Sam Query should be on a commercial or marketing materials for the greenbrier because he really talked it up. As you have been calling it summer camp. I had no idea that there was so much to do so many activities available for the player. So it was really cool to hear him talk about going eighteen or fishing or whatever. They have them doing out there it looks beautiful and yeah, I mean it's really cool to see as Sam said people really getting getting excited about this and really there they got to be ready to play from the GECKO which I thought was a really interesting point and then you know there's a a good amount of prize money in a lot of ascent incentives at stake that they're playing for and it showing. I thought that was interesting to thought that yes, we are. We are all creatures of incentive. We wrote about this in the mail bag last week I mean there's there's real money on the table. This is not just an exhibition where you come in cash a check I. mean this is performance based in it seems as though that's having a real impact I also thought it was interesting that you sort of have this this onsite recreation and sometimes I think people have a a bit of a distorted idea of what it means to be a tennis player say, Oh, you're so lucky you get to go to. Paris Madrid and Rome and thread through all these cities of the world but it's not a so you really get to enjoy the city and it sounds. So this is an event where yes there tennis matches going on but you also go fishing and ATV ING and you get to bring your family and it's I. Think. Probably much different from a tournament where everyone loves going to the French Open and you can take your instagram and maybe off day get a nice meal but it's not as though you're taking in the surroundings away the players in West Virginia are. So now I give I give World Team tennis a lot of credit I mean there was there was an opportunity here and they took it and I think one thing. Jamie. That's going to be interesting I think this whole idea of the sports bubble and Can it work? Is it realistic? Can you contain these athletes at something that really all sports are dealing with right now some more successfully than others. And you know so far as record this no positive tests and it does seem like. World Team Tennis has essentially done what they set out to do when they launched this idea a few months ago. Right yeah. Definitely. It's interesting that World Team Tennis is ten is's I way back you know post corona trying things out because you know previously, as you said, this was sort of just a an exhibition for a lot of players in there is so much on the calendar so much going on and now all of the sudden it's become sort of the example for tennis which I find interesting and of course, you know we talked with World Tennessee. Oh, about it and on this podcast. Yeah, it's interesting to see how tennis is as of now being successful with their bubble almond. Now, of course, the big question. The US Open Yeah and I think that's that's exactly right and I think we want to draw parallels. We WanNA use words like bubble because the NBA's bubble so far has been successful baseball's non bubble has been punctured. I think. It won't take us long to sort of differentiate between. All the players on one site when they can roll out of bed and and be at the facility. I'm I'm not sure the parallels between the greenbrier in the US opener. Perfect. But I do think it's a lot. The US Open in learn I mean let's let's do what we always do during Kobe and time stamp this and say that as you and I speak The US. Open is on and from what I've heard and talking to players and talking from agents. It's really odd I mean players are starting to book their travel and players are starting to figure out sort of rooming configurations for their coaches. I can't imagine that the USDA at this point having come this far is going to say you know what we're going to rethink this they have given themselves an opportunity I think that's smart There is this sort of final final deadline which I heard was Friday. The thirty first is Friday but now It made me pushed a little more but I can't imagine at this point in the game with really so many balls in motion right now and again, play players travel not just for themselves. But their whole entourage is and figuring out spacing and quarantine, I can't imagine the USDA would pull the plug right now but I, do think that they have a real challenge and there are some similarities but this not immediately parallel to what we have at the greenbrier where everybody essentially is sleeping at the same facility where they're also playing these competitive matches so It will it will be will be interesting to see I. Mean I think we're all eager to what you and I have been saying for weeks and I realized that this has probably gotten tiresome for. For for you for for everybody for listeners for players, I mean everybody is sort of. I think we all want the same thing which is a return to tennis, but a return only if it's under. The correct and responsible conditions and You know, I I have my reservations I feel like they're two columns right and. You and I both live in in the New York area and I have to say it is unrecognized will be different right now in a lot of ways and it was in March April. May. And that said, there are still an awful lot of complications here. So I mean I. Don I don't know if you have strong feelings but. You know I feel like it's one of these things were what we want. We're all you know it's unanimous. We're we're all We're all in agreement about what we want I. Think the question is, can it be achieved under responsible conditions and I think? It was a healthy argument to be had there. Do you have strong feelings right now? Yeah I think you're right to say that this is probably become a tired conversation but every we talk about it, there's a new wrinkle or a you know something new to discuss and. Now. I agree with you. Obviously I've I've been in the. New York New Jersey area. This entire time and things do seem to be better here than other places, which of course is not how it was things were pretty grim here if you if you talk to us, you know in in April or even May on we've been discussing US Open but I am still a little hesitant agree with you that The US Open situation is not going to be like it is in the Greenbrier as right now with world team tennis and that will have in fact, I also we talked about this very early on you know there's just so many rumors of players who will will not play in. You have questioned about it in your mailbag this week about you know, how can you justify or put an abstract on a a grand slam title for someone like team or Sasha Zahra or some one of these nexgen younger players who all of a sudden turnaround and win the US Open because The likes of Federal Dollars Jovic or others are not playing I'm so I think that for me is going to be the most interesting. You know if it if it does go through I think there will be some obstacles in the US really been to. Quickly Adjust pivot when there are positive tests or breaking protocol or whatever it may be. But when we when we get down to the tennis, I'm really interested to see who actually plays We've been talking about this for awhile again, there's a lot of rumors of players who will in won't and so for me that's going to be really interesting and and I think it will also help paint A. As. We've been saying about the French Open as well. I don't know if you saw the the Lexington entry list that. The someone sent me I tweeted out. But I mean I think I think Sam articulated a lot of this. I mean there are players who were really really anxious to get out there. And the Lexington player list I mean this is this is a first year event. There's two hundred, two, thousand dollars in prize money I mean this is a a lower-tier event. And yet they're drawing players like Serena Williams. Leninist. Williams and Sloan Stevens and Coca Gov and you go down the list and what you're seeing a Sabah Langa as Aranka. This is a top flight field for an event. It's never even been held before never mind that you know. Serena. Williams usually gets more an appearance fee than the entire prize money for the tournament and to me that shows that these players they're overriding. I mean I think there's a sense of listen. I can take precautions all where my mask and wash my hands and use my hand sanitizer I need to get back to hitting tennis and that doesn't make sense Sam articulated. That as well. But. I think you're right that first of all, let stress that there's a difference between in entry list in an actual field and already Marissa's pull down I mean that that is is not final by any stretch but I you know someone predicted this to me. They said players right now are sort of laying low and they're expressing some ambivalence but when there are playing opportunities on the table. Are they really going to pass them out and if you look at the entry list for Washington DC before that event was cancelled that certainly supported that theory as well that there were a lot of top flight players were willing to play in Washington DC and you just get the feeling that players of essentially says Sam did you know what enough is enough? I'm willing to risk it and if I'm going to get back out there. I'm going to play as many events as I. There's I I keep thinking I'm dating myself, but there's there's an old Eddie Murphy comedy routine about You know you're you're in the desert you finally find a Saltine. It's the best cracker you've ever had. You know I mean I think it. Let's play I. Think of it as you know people who are on on a very basic level but people who are kind of just going out to a restaurant right now. Right? It's almost a hundred degrees hot and humid in New York City and you'll do anything you'll wait on online and you know just To sit down at a table outside and enjoy a restaurant sort of like you used to right because you have done with these players. It's almost it's way more than that. Because as we've discussed, they need to make money. You know this is not just I just WanNa play tennis this is I haven't for the for most of these players I haven't. Seen A paycheck in a long time and I've you know been here training not really knowing when I'm training. You know what I'm trained four one I'm coming back and when they're something on the calendar especially something that is you know in the US or maybe a drive away or something that that as you said, that can be done safely in their minds i. really it makes a Lotta sense as to why we're seeing So many players in the tournaments that didn't even exist before twenty twenty. Jamie that's so sick. I'm supposed to be the cynical on. This is so off brand but but I would also say apart from the money and I think they're right I. Think you're you're absolutely correct that again, we are creatures of incentives and. A lot of players haven't had a paycheck but apart from that I think is a very practical reason to play, which is that it is really hard to have this kind of a sabbatical basically to have a junior year abroad and then go immediately and play the US Open in the case of men it's best to. It's a major it's got a heat of New York. It's hard courts. These players need warm up events and I I mean I'm surprised that not every player is is entered in this Cincinnati event that's going to proceed the US Open. I mean the notion of having six months off and some of this is about conditioning in some of this is just sort of Psychologically, some of this is just self confidence the idea that you'd have six months. Sabbatical and immediately play a major. In everything that comes with it and the half and the history and the rhythms, and the notion that you know you have to win seven matches in the case of the men, twenty sets of tennis. I I just feel like how do you walk into that cold? So I think you know. That's Possibility of a paycheck that is lowering these players but I think also. It's just nuts to me that you would restart your season at a major. A stranger. Of course, that's the other thing that's going to be interesting when these tournaments do come back and we've talked about this is now what are you most looking forward to it that competitiveness in the technical skill in the fitness levels? I. Mean. All of that stuff is going to be so much more of a factor than it used to be just because everyone's coming from such different points, you know I think players already were you know tailoring and tapering different. Points of the season based on their age, their experienced multiple ornaments on their calendar year. Now, this sort of put everyone at the same starting line which I don't know if that actually ever happened before you know I mean we do think of the Australian Open as the beginning of the year, but they are players who? Play tournaments. Winter, you know all December in their players who their first one back is you know a tune up in Australia right right ahead of of. The Australian Open so it's it's really interesting that now all of a sudden you know these players going to be back at a very You know back at a point where they're kind of on the same level. I think you're right I think which players are back is. You know that remains to be seen I've also heard two very different schools of thought about how these events are going to play out. and. Somebody. Suggested to me that this is going to be and I don't know maybe you have thoughts here Again, I'll as as an elite athlete also as someone who follows us, I mean there are two thoughts. One of them is that this is going to be an absolute crap shoot in the same way Kim Clijsters can come in at age thirty seven as a mother of three, and you know be the the MIDSEASON MVP of World Team tennis and beat the most recent major champion. That absolutely, every player in the draws going to have a chance to win this, and this is going to be the most open tournament ever and the other school of thought, somewhat former player who has talking to the other day said. Don't be ridiculous. That's not going to be the case at all. This is really gonNA serve. This is really going to favor the strong players and the favorites and the usual front runners and that it's the US Open to go down the list and it's it's Moo Goo it Serena Andress and It's the top players who have had who are just. Objectively, probably better players and also have had the means to. Travel, first class and higher personal trainers, and that these drugs are going to have more chalk than ever so that they're two very these are both credible people. Both both former players and they have very different ideas of how this is gonNA shake out. One of them says there's going to be the most open. You'll ever see and anyone can win and the other is saying absolutely not. These draws are going to have more chock than ever because the favorites have built in advantage is I don't know if you have thoughts on that. Yeah. You know we've talked about this too and it's interesting to hear both sides of that and in in my heart in my gut, what I feel is I have to go on the side of being more open than ever I just think that you know I agree that the top players definitely have the advantages you know in terms of whether it's as you say, the private flights or training or whatever it is. But the fact of the matter is is that they've always had that right and they've always had this advantage. But there's something about this time on that I think. You know for for certain players lower level There's just I. Don't WanNa say there's this desperate feeling or just I just feel like everyone sort of clawing their way and trying to figure it all out and I think that it's going to really open things up I think it's anyone's game because as I said, there's a a level playing field of sorts in terms of. this this break in this hiatus that happened with tennis all around the world in I just feel like everyone has had a different experience with the coronavirus with everything going on and I think that will bring out qualities in people that maybe we haven't seen before and I think that will shake things up a bit. So I'm on that side I don't know where you stand. I think that's really interesting and I think you're right I. Mean I think the other great wildcard of course was just who's GonNa play? It's pretty clear federal. We know is not and it doesn't look like not. Inclined to play the US Open I mean honestly probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that a full vote of clay events. In in Europe media words. Jovovich is You know I've I've heard mixed things on that. So I think some of this is just going to be a function of WHO's in the draw, but I will say one thing that's interesting. The US Ta has been and I think again overall I give USDA very high grades here I think they've been on this I think they have not been sort of blinded by by money or Desire to sort of unconditionally start. There's been a real attention paid to science. I mean I I think Jamie you and I had Dr Brian Hey line on in April, and it was clear that the science and the data and the trends we're going to be what else really guided this. So again, I I give a lot of credit to the USDA and they've had these these calls quite frequently with. All sorts of different constituents with players, agents with the tours, and it does seem like there's some flexibility here and they're changing I think depending on as as of now I was told that depending on where you're coming from, that might change your rooming configuration, and if you come from a hot zone, if you're coming from Florida, you may not be able to have a roommate the same way you. Might if you were coming from Western, Europe so it seems like there's some flexibility built in. But one thing they've been adamant about is they are not changing format. They are not going to best of three sets for the man and I think part of that is a real desire to sort of keep this half of a major and essentially say look there's going to be enough. That's wacky about this. No matter what starting with the Africa fans, we are going to do everything in our power to sort of. Keep our GRAVITAS here. So I I think you're right I I tend to think it's as much a function of the field as anything else. But I I do think it's entirely possible we're going to have. remember who said it jokingly last week some of the or David go FAZ champion. I am I would be more inclined. Bertini wins it would not surprise. We just pick a name, any fifty names but I do think the USDA and the tournament itself is going to do everything in their power to sort of retain as much normalcy as possible I. Can we get rid of the word normalcy as a? Non We're at. As a side note but no, it's it's going to be. The whole thing is going to be really sort of voyeuristic interesting and again you just hope this is. And how timestamped. But you do hope this is the NBA and the bubble. When the the big scandal is a player who leaves and goes to a strip club for chicken wings and not baseball where you have the majority of an entire team testing positive. So You know it's you know I think the as I understand to the USDA's fully prepared for? A player or multiple players to test positive and there's a policy in place. and. There's tracking and they're going to air on the side of caution. They are not If you test positive, you're not playing you're match and if it's a if it's a false positive deal to consequences later but The flip side is the confidence that as of now they are confident that they can pull this off. So We shall see. This will be a US Open like no other. But again as I speak, it's a going concern. We we await the decision as we have been for. I will I will say months we've been. Talking about this. So it'll be really interesting. It'd be a lot of adjust adjustments along the way, but the thing that I'm most looking forward to you is some US Open. Tennis. Yeah I think we can all agree on that and I think. It will be nice to get back to talking about results and points and. Chases and who's playing well, and who couldn't hold the lead I feel like everything has been anyway. You know you'd expect us to be the case and it's certainly not unique to tennis but you know Kyle Edmund Hits Dan Evans racket too hard I. Don't know if you saw that and that dominates the tennis news and. Indie Kerber returns to Torben Belts and you would have thought that You know this was Pete Sampras retirement announcement. So it will be nice to have a little more proportion and get back to talking about match results not who's tapping who's racket with a little too much Rio All right that That does it for today what are we end there and We will have another guest. Next week. And hopefully, by then we will have a firm answer on the US Open. Neither of this will be formalized with some sort of announcement from the USDA or else. There will be a fairly radical about-face because right now. A lot of players are making hotel reservations. All right that does it for this week. 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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 13 | Saturday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | April 13 | Saturday Morning Update Podcast

"Doc. Rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. That he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for April thirteenth. I'm rose turn Armstrong. And with me today is Mary how're you doing Mary? I'm good now had some technical difficulties earlier. I don't know what's going on. But we figured it out. So hopefully, everybody can hear me now just so fully. Hopefully, the audio is fine because we are here to talk to you about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother candidate seven alive feeds it was day, forty two. And now, it's a lot of nice. Yeah. Just as long as you're -vivor, Australia. Not the not the other show, the international show there. Well survive while Australian survivor like three episodes of week. So that's basically like big brother Elmo. Yeah. Only like two hour episodes. It's a lot. It is a lot. All of these big, brother episodes, two hours. You know, I would say, yes. But given how they edit them. I'm not sure they would use those two hours to the best effect. So. I don't know. Keep it to the to the live feeds. All right. Let's talk about what happened yesterday on the. There's actually pretty pretty good day. Lots of stuff going down a lot notes that. All right. So let's let's get straight into it. So we started the day Dane was talking to the cameras. So obviously last night we are coming off of. Mark has one H h he was talking about his plan. He wants to put Adam on the block. He's thinking about maybe Damian as well. He hasn't really confirmed anything yet. And so coming into this morning, Dane was very very annoyed. These he's on slop Dane does not do well on slop. And he is very mad at Mark. Because Mark is not going after Corey he's putting up Adam. He's thinks this is dumb. And he's he's very annoyed. Yeah. I mean, most of my notes in here, you say a lot happened except pretty much every headline. I have is Adam wrandell, Mark, Dane rants about Mark. Everybody's mad. Mark Anthony pretends to not be mad at Mark. There's a lot. There's a lot of other stuff like that. But you know, I'm over the Dane being on slop over him being tired and frustrated. It's like it's just the same thing over. Oh, mark. Oh, go I won't want competition. A big man on campus. I'm mark. That's what Dan was doing. Right. Not like not like that. A Dane has been acting like that at all during this whole even. Nice cool. Calm and collected. Yes. Yes. Very much. So he he's he's very he he wants to he wants. He's he's annoyed that Anthony is texting. This isn't gonna make any accents or the people who are only. Listen audio. Out of here clean. All right. I'm sorry. Everyone broke Terron. I'm at my parents house. My dad is crawling around on the floor trying to fix the light. So I'm using computer. It's our problem. Yeah. So so he's mad at Anthony. For for China for Corey he thinks Corey retargeted. So. Yeah. Dane, very very mad. Mary. I'm sorry. I'm just as lost. Yeah. Say yes. Okay. So Dane is going to sorry. That was very funny. Thought he was hitting three wasn't. All right. The professionalism on this podcast is made. Okay. So Dane is going to go and talk to Mark after after his ran to the cameras, and he's going to once again pitch that Corey should be the target. That Corey is is the dangerous one the threat to the pretty boys. It only makes sense that Korea should be targeted here. He's he's it was it was really funny because I was as I was reading these I turned on the feeds for this morning. And and they were in the exact same position Dane was wearing the exact same hoodie, and he was having another morning conversation with Mark this morning about the same thing. And so but but yesterday morning Mark was not super into it. He's not really does not really want Corey to be targeted. He feels like Corey is good for his game. And so it's a no go for now. But Dane is really pushing this idea. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of it depends on like what Marx real opinion is where he really wants to happen. Because if he ever does whether it'd be this week or another week decide that you know, what do wanna get Adam out or do wanna get Dana? He's going to probably need Corey to be there to vote for him. Anyway, just so not into it. And so what he is into is putting out on the block. And so he's going to talk to Adam. And Anthony is there as well. And he's basically letting them know I got I got to put one of the guys got to do that and Adams like why? Just that I got to put one of the guys up. I put you up though, it's story. It's really it's just for the story because it makes it we have to we have to craft in narrative, we have to make sure that nobody knows that we're working together. This this will hide the pretty boys, and it makes sense because you and Sam put me on the block. And then you didn't use the veto on me and Adams, just like, no. That doesn't. Story. What are you talking about? I should not be on the block that doesn't make any sense. I don't like it. If what happens if the if I stay on the block the house could turn on me. We only have two votes. And markets like, nah. Wouldn't that wouldn't happen? What do you mean that wouldn't you can't promise that Mark is like well? Hey, how's could it turned on me when I was on the block? But guess who didn't use the veto on me? You. It's like, oh my God. That was not up to me. I was not h h I did not put you on the buck. Sam put you on the buck. I one eight Georgia. I would not be putting you in the block. He's like look all I can say is that you had the veto. You could've saved me. And you didn't and Adams. Just oh my God. I'm done with this right now. Yeah. He's just like he's he's he makes sense because Mark is not doing handling this in the correct way marks making a correct move here. But it's frustrating when he can't even understand that like, this is this is how your side piece can come back to haunt you. Because you're going to be seen as connected to them. Whether or not you made them move or not technically Markaz like, very bitter. So he's like. I have a theory about Mark. We'll elaborate over the course of the day here. But I think that he is he's somebody. He was his Mark. He he has conversations with KiKi where KiKi stumps all over him. And then he saw Anthony Anthony is is an alpha, bro. Anthony is confident and he states what he wants. And he's he doesn't get walked all over. And so Mark is like I want to be more like Anthony. So all I have to do is be more confident and not let people walk all over me. And so like, he he's just like he's acting like he's Anthony one of the ways he feels like he can act like Anthony. Hey, hey, I was walked all over that week. And I let it happen. But no more. I'm not going to be walked over. I'm going to get back at you for putting me up there and letting me stay up there. Like, I was some disposable pawn. I'm going to get you out, Adam. But he's not saying that. But he's saying I'm gonna put you up at them. And so this is how he feels like this is how he feels like he's gonna come off as like, it'd be. Man, I'm going to be confident like Anthony. Doesn't come off that way. No, it doesn't it doesn't. And and you know, this is what happens when it's forty two days in the game. And you can't try to change your whole perception just based off of one win ager wage. Anthony's Anthony's built up this nice long thing of being this sort of controlling these like creature, and he's he's got got his people and that he's really running the house, and it's great and for us. He's the villain, and it's a much better look than Mark who's been over here. Say in big words, but not really doing anything with it. So Mark is going to go talk to Corey he lets her know I'm putting them up courses that makes sense because you two have never worked together. Perfect sense. Right, right. Mark, mark. Let's or no his ideal final five. And I think he's telling the truth here is himself. Anthony, Corey ST and Kira? Right. It's not a bad final five. No. It's not and to get to that final five. He does actually have to take adamant day. Now, he just mess around with. Because in this final Corey is probably the biggest threats quote, unquote. Mark would probably have the easiest time winning any mental competitions. And there are two goats there for him to take to the end. And so it's not a bad fun of. But, but as you said he has to actually be able to get Adam and then Dane out of the house somehow and not only that, but he has to kind of do it without being the only person that does it in some ways because they'll be super bitter about him taking them out if he just doesn't on his own. Like, I think his goal here is to try and get the pretty boys onboard. And to get the votes there to a victim. So that it's not just him going rogue. And so he's he's trying to like find a way to just of again. Matt Hoffman Adam out of the game. And then with Matt Hoffman. That's going to be that the term we're gonna use. What else do you want to call it? I guess I guess that works. That's fine. It's just it's just not quite the same. Because Matt Hoffman was out in a little bit different of a timeframe and for different reasons, but was part of the brigade. And then they were like this guy. These two good. We got to get rid of him. And so they Hoffman him. Okay. Hoffman. Let's just go with that. All right. So he's hoping to Hoffman at and that's that's goal here. And I do think his final five is this idea of him. Anthony, Corey Esti and Kira and during during this conversation with Corey. Adam stomps in to the HMO vice Thompson, I mean, he like comes in and kind of walk a little bit Bris briskly, grabs his water bottle, and then leaves and is appalled ended. No the way you hear Corey he burst in the Rupe. Didn't even look at us. Just walk and push those doors open the gas ity, how dare he we should have had him come back in appropriately procreate. I love I love Corey the mom slash teacher favorite. Look. Anthony is going to join the conversation, then it's just going to be Anthony, and Mark and Anthony is pushing more toward the idea of well, why don't we just do Damian SD together? And just pretend we're back during that. I'm that that can be our story. Mark says no, I'm not going be. I'm not going to be stepped over. This is my plan my idea and Adam deserves to be on the block for what he did. He needs to be punished. And and just just wait. We're we need to test him. We need to see if Adam blows up we need to see it. And I think this is what he's hoping is that he'll put Adam on the block ADEMA blow up. It'll show the other pretty boys who have been talking about Adams ally ability for so long that Adam is a liability, and maybe they should just quietly send him out the door. So saying, we'll let's let's see let's see how he acts when he's on block. He's like he's like, yeah. If he's good to us if he's nice in good this week, then we can decide to keep him the three of us right here. But otherwise, we might decide that he's not good for us. Yes. He also says that if Damian or Adam come down just put ST he will keep Corey safe. Anthony says you know, what I'm on board. That's fine. One thing that I mean with Adam on the block, I'll have I'll have to make a final three with Corey atom just to make sure has the votes, right? Okay. Okay. I want. I want him out not more aligned with other people. But okay. This was a cartoon. It would be like, you know, the how does conversation the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. And then right as Anthony's walking out the door. Yeah. But by the way, just in case, you know, you might also like make a final deal with him by saying. It is a cartoon in the sense that like Mark thinks that he's like slamming the hammer down on on the cartoon mouse, or whatever. But every time he does it. It only makes the mouse stronger like this is only helping Adam in the game. And it's only hurting him. So. Adam is going to go today. He's complaining today. It doesn't make sense Wisey. Putting me up on the block. It should be Corey deigned says I completely agree deigned goes and talks to Mark Dane tells him the plan Adam should go up on the block dances is. Okay. But remember if the veto is one we should come back together. And think about our options keep our options open. Mark says, okay. Okay. I don't really wanna do Corey. But I'll give you that. We'll we'll talk about it. Dane is is is very he's very he we really wants to push for this new. He needs to find an in. And he's so he's he's really just hammering away at this. Yeah. Luckily, Danes relationship with Markaz a little better marks. Whereas Adam is blowing up and getting on that date knows how to handle himself. You know last week. He said fine. Put me on the block. It's okay. I know I'm safe. I'll do it for you and Adams, not giving him the same respect. So he at least listened to Dame occasionally. Yes. And Dane is better about it to like Dana. I look I'm all for Mark. I'm on team, Mark. I want to do what you wanna do. I just feel like the smarter move for me that I think it is Cory. I think that she's the bigger threat. And I don't know any look I'm totally on board. I just think that we should maybe reconvene talk about it. Again, think about it some more if the media was one, and so he is he is more diplomatic guests for sure. Mark is gonna talk with Kierra. And this is going to be a disastrous conversation. This is I talked about talked to a most of these conversations yesterday just in a lot less detail marklets cure. No, he wants to put Adam on the block he to target at and cures. Like why? Why? Oh my God. Mark. What why would you do that Adam is by himself? And there's a whole group of other people in this house that are working together in Marxist. Look at 'em. He put me on the block last. He pays put me in the book. He didn't use the veto on me. And that's not true. It all Adam Fultz so hard for you. He didn't want you on the block. The only reason he didn't use the veto is because Sam didn't let him in markets like oh Sam didn't let him. So he could have he could have used that veto if he wanted to in Mark is very much like hammering home, this idea that Adam should have protected him and curious saying, that's so dumb. He was trying to protect you. You sound like a Blake. You're just you're going off your ego. And that you're bitter right now. Mark is like, no, no that's not how it's happening. No. It's not. I'm not bitter. This is a smart move. This is me. This is me taking control of my own destiny. Writing my own pages for the future and and cures. Like, no, you sound like an idiot. This is absolutely not going. How Mark thought it would go Mark Mark thought this was like. Like, okay. Here's my master stroke. He he clearly thought he could get cure cured to to a victim atom, and he's just like run into a brick wall. And he's like, wow. This is not what I wanted. Yeah. It's it's just so hard to listen to on both sides because neither of them are really, right? And I would've loved to see, you know, because because if we remember every time cure was on the block like, you know, if they're alive one one the power veto. I'm sure cure. It would make completely fine. And understood that it would find not to take them off. And they could just sit there, and I just imagine if the role was reversed if cure would feel the same way the cure even said like Adam put me on the block, he actually put me on the block. And I understand why can't you understand? He will legitimately was fighting so hard for you. And we were like these guys must be working together. Because that's what S T and KiKi were telling us, and he was fighting so hard to keep you and like he was doing everything in his power. And you seem like a bitter Astle right now market. That's what it seems like and. That's what it seems like Mark. That's what it seems like. Care needs to go out of the room and come back in and try to conversation again appropriately. Yeah. It's again like Mark had it in his head that this was going to be his master stroke that he was going to put out on the block. He was going to convince I think this is what it was in his head. Who knows maybe we'll see something different in the diary room. But I think he thought that he was going to put out on the block, and then Adam was gonna freak out. And he could then be like Kira? Here we go time to take out Adam. I'll have you all to myself. Hey, pretty boys, Adams such liability. You've been complaining to me about him for so long. Here's my chance to step up and be a man like Anthony. And and just like every time he tried to talk to somebody about getting atom out there like, yeah. But no, he he got the part about Adam freaking out. Right. But he didn't realize that that was going to come off his sympathetic to everyone else in that. He was just gonna look like lunatic for doing. Yeah. So not not going. Well, Mark is gonna talk to Adam and confirm to him that he is putting him on the block, and he just keeps going on and on and on the worst reasoning that, hey, it's because you left me on the block when Sam was h so this too. That's that's why that's why this is happening. And so then what do you mean? That's dumb reason. You're just you're getting back at me because your feelings are her whatever and Marcus neuro. This is about this is about the story about this about telling story that the storyline makes sense because you didn't take me down with Vito that I'm striking back at you. And the guys aren't working together and just thinks is super dumb, and he hates it. Yeah. I the number of times that Adam said this day. I'll give him an effing story. His what he wants for story. I'm over it. That's yes. So he goes complaints to Anthony about it. All all I need to go to the story. I'll give him a story. I'll give him a story and Anthony's like, yeah. Give him a story and tries to coach him through like what to say to Mark. Like this. What you need to say. When Sam was h h she put you on the block, and look I fought really hard for you to to to knock on the block. But you did go on the block. And then I won the veto. And I wanted to use it on you. But I couldn't. And and so you stay in the block. But guess what you stayed with a five one vote because I was fighting really hard for you to stay. And so now, you're coming after me guess, how guess what it'll be like when I'm fighting for you to leave Mark, boom. Story and and Adams Adams trying to repeat it back. Okay. Okay. So I thought to stay and now I'll fight for leave. No. No. No, you have to go through the story. You have to go through it slowly one walk in the house member. You've gotta put the story. We're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. And Anthony also says so here we here's what we need to do. If you stay on the block we need to make final three Corey make a final through core about. I this everybody on board by the time the corey's still there made a final remember Anthony. Of course, this is in into try to get on board with keeping Corey around. If you feel safe with Corey Anthony says to Adam you need to go to Corey and usually like pace back and forth in front of her. Like, oh, I'm so pissed so pissed and then go, and then you talk to her and you'd be like, oh, I'm so pissed I'm so pissed Mark. Putting me on the block. I protect is fought to protect him. And now he's putting me on the block. And I just wanna say I'm sorry, Corey I had my my head up my but the whole week with with Sam, and I was obsessed with her and I was being dumb. But now I understand that. I can't trust anybody in the house on clothes Dane, but I can't even trust him. Only. You an Anthony only you to have been straight with me. I can only trust you guys. So. Whatever whatever it ever. Adams like all right. All right. I'll I'll do that. Jomie show me. How are you going to do it? He's like, I'm pissing. Everyone is like no you're smiling, you're smiling. No smiling. You're mad. Jill. Anthony, the improv teacher is so great to. Yes. So many sides of people. So so Adam he does he goes to talk to Corey, but he doesn't find her immediately. In the meantime, Dane is going to have a brief conversation with Anthony he wonders, hey, should we use the veto on Adam? If we went, and then he says, yes, we what we can get anyone to use the veto on Adam Danes, like I don't think that's what I think he wants atom out and. No, we can do it. We can do. We just have to make five with. Gosh, if ST somehow use the veto, Adam. That say just give just give the wind. Anthony. He's got to get her to do that. So so Adam goes to Corey, and he he does exactly what Anthony just told him to do. He's he like pay storms into the room. I'm pissed I'm pissed. I can't believe Mark. He he I protect him. Now, he's putting me on the block. And I can't trust anyone except for except for you. And Anthony, I'm close with Dane, but I can't even trust him. I expect everyone to stab me in the back of this point. And I I'm just so mad. I'm so pissed right now and Corey is eating this up like, oh, Adam. You know, this is what you need to do. I'm me a master of the game somebody who excelled at their h week. Let me give you some advice on how to operate in the house and the this whole conversation. It's word for word. I was tweeting this out Anthony gave him the scripts. He read the script out to Corey. And it was it was crazy. I've never seen. Somebody just give scripts to other houseguests that they also word for word. It's nuts. Just an adjective. They were allowed to have paper and pencil in this house. Then he could just write out a whole story. Yeah. The you know, what are you gonna do? So Dane is going to have a conversation with Mark. And he lets Mark. No. If I win the veto, I'm taking Adam down and markets. Great great. Make sense. He's like, I think this is the right? The right move. You know, we'll see how atom reacts, right? We're going to wait and see maybe. And I just feel like we should've been going after Corey. But that's fine. That's fine. I just really Corey is the only one threatening us right now. I don't know. Of course, even once you in the final five, Mark. I know she wants me she wants Kira? I don't know if she wants just leaves one other guy option that could be Adam could be you. So I don't I don't really know. And that makes her very dangerous and Mark tries to tell Dane cure. It doesn't want you in the final five days like. I care and Mark like, oh, I don't think. So he's like, no no right before Sam was victim. She sat cure and myself and Adam down and said, you guys need to get over your differences and work together. And so curious is acting like they're not good with me right now to everyone else does make it seem like we're not that close, but we were actually kinda working together at this point. And Mark is like. No. That does. I mean. I don't know. That's that's not what they're telling me Danes like. Yeah. Exactly. That's that's the plan. Well, I mean, I don't know. I'd still be suspicious. No the person I've been working on. They haven't been telling me things. Marquez such a wrong read on gear. And then finding out that anyone else has a correct read. It's just his whole world view. It's so sad. I just love picturing how these these past forty two days have gone to Mark's like in his mind from his point of view. He sitting long audience is gonna love me, I'm gonna make this is going to be great. And he's partially right in that the audience is like has just been waiting for him to see if he can get some power, and then make a move gonna mess up his game but being credibly entertained, so it's like, yeah. He he is seeing that picture, but the part that he's missing is that he's not like a hero in it is more like a bumbling fool. It's entertaining. His whole world is coming down around him right now. And he's trying to he's literally trying to just stand there. And be like this is fine. I'm I'm still a lion. I'm ally. And I'm not gonna let anyone tread on me because I'm make line. And so. Koumba? Yeah. Or tomorrow on? Hey, the new movies coming out. So. Corey is going to have a conversation with Anthony where she tells him. Hey, I'd really good talk with Adam and. A really really tell me about it start Adam for following the script. So then Corey starts telling Anthony about how Adam came to her saying that he's pissed it everyone and that he wants he's so mad at Mark because he works so hard to protect markdown marks coming after him. And now he can't trust anyone except for Corey and Anthony and close the dam, but he can't even trust everyone to stab in the back and again, Anthony gave Adam marching orders. He gave him a script. Adam went to Corey said the script exactly Corey came back to Anthony. Repeated the words that Anthony gave to Adam back to him. And Anthony is like who that's perfect. I love that Corey. You're so good at this game. Corey shreds. This is perfect for us. Now, we can keep atom, right? This is perfect because Adam go after Mark Markle, go after Adam leaves us sitting pretty we don't have to expose any of our cards. Hey lift up that rug right? That lift up sweeping. Oh, yeah. They love sweeping things under the rug or whatever. Metaphor is a little lost on me. But, but you know, watching Anthony just play this game with himself. Basically play chess with himself. He's like all right. All right. No, you do this move. And then I'm going to do this move Bom. I win. Hey who knew? I am with it. You know? Court. Of course. So proud of herself. Yeah. I mean, the only problem is if somehow Anthony doesn't get to be end somehow. It's just like just a magic Anthony being on the jury and Corey being up there spouting out all of these things as if they were corey's ideas when really Anthony's that would be a fury aiding and his such an influence on people. He makes them think they're lions, and you know, what not everyone should think, they're align. Probably most people shouldn't think they're lying. You're human. Yeah. Let's the, you know, the movies coming out so truth. We're gonna get a lot of we're gonna whole influx of kids. Who are like, hey, I'm Alayan, and we're gonna be like Anthony, no. He used to get a he should get a partnership or some kind of deal with them. I was watching the challenge, and there's a person on the challenge named bear. Well, who called himself a lion? Whoa. Anthony went to the same lion school. I guess you would think that you would just call yourself a bear. But maybe you would think you would think. All right. So Mark is going to take Damian to Wendy's. And he's gonna have a William as his server. I assume this is big brother Canada five William and not be candidates six. Will I believe it is William? But by the Orissa way of speaking of calling KiKi, cure w reducer true. And I look Mark he loves Kevin. Maybe maybe William at least as close as he could get. Do you think they hand pick these Wendy's people depending on whose h h? So apparently during Wendy's Mark let Damian know that he is going to be going up on the block next to Adam. And Damian is not happy Damian was under the assumption because his conversation with Mark Mark said, I'm not inclined to put you on the block marks conversation with ST was I might put you on the block and so- Damian thought that SD was probably going to be the person that went up is upon and not him. And he was not happy to hear that. It was him. In fact, a couple of points throughout the day was like what did what S T say to Mark to get out of this. What did she do? We don't. We don't need any added benefits to these guys for their poor game. Play don't break up Damian and Steve only hope. Adams talk to Dame, they commiserated together. Adam would love for both of them to stay Adams's. You know, so much for the boys thing, right jeeze? And Damian is like seriously because here's something that happened the night before right before Daming went to bed he stopped in to the Jewish. And he was like I was just we'll talk tomorrow. But I was thinking about something. Tell me now. We'll talk about Tamar. Say let me know. I was kinda thinking like. Guys thing like final five like we'd make official kind of deal. Mark was like nano that'd be really bad for us though. Don't you think if we got to the end with those other three guys like that'd be really I mean for us. We wound be able to beat them and. Yeah. I guess so. Very sad. And so- Damian says, Adam. Yeah, I approached Mark about last night. But I got the sense of Mark does not feel like he wants to go to the end with the guys. And. Should be maybe setting some light bulbs off and Adams had maybe a little bit. But not too much because the story it's the story. So that happened. All they had to do just Adams just sitting there going, and if I could go back today one if I could have asked Damian to be the fourth and this alliance instead of Mark. Absolutely. Once that out of his been advocating to bring Damian in the fifth for a long time. Crazy crazy. Damian talks to Dane an ST. He says Dane, obviously, I'm gonna pick you to play in the veto. You'll use it on me and Dan's like, oh, yeah. Of course, course, definitely. And he's gonna go and talk to SDN be like, I don't wanna play the veto. Yeah. You can't win it. You can't win it in the news it because then I'll go up, right? Like, yeah. Exactly. That's definitely what I'm trying to avoid. I I I want to see the internal struggle of Dane somehow trying not to win a competition. That would be really fun. We get some good diarrhea voice overs of that competition. So okay with it. I don't know. I feel like at this point Danes trying to he's trying to reshift things. I think his he should be trying to keep ST more than he is like I think he could be trying to protect her more than he's actively doing. But I'm just trying to protect my stock. Look, I switched everything for Mark testes. Oh, that's rough fine. You know? I'm just trying to try to cover my losses here. Yeah. Well, you know. Well. A decent job. You know, he's he is trying to get Corey on the block. And so that's that's good. But I don't know. I don't know if any I don't know if these talks going up anytime soon. Yeah. But Mark was down at all. That would be helpful justify it to myself. Yeah. So yes. So Dane is he's he's still working on this plan to get Corey up on the block, but you know. We'll see Adam is going to get into it with Mark again in the kitchen and Adam Adam it's like why are you doing this? Why doing this Mark? Nobody agrees with this plan. Anthony's against plan Dane is against this plan. I'm against this plan you just unilaterally decided, oh, I'm going to put up at him. And Mark what? No, no. That's not. It's not what it was. Yeah. It was told me what was happening. There was no discussion you told me you're going on. And you you're in the mood for discussion clearly and Adams like because it wasn't a discussion. You were telling me that I was going on buck, and Mark just marches cannot take take the heat here anytime Adam says, something that Marc doesn't have a response to I I'm done with this conference. I'm not even going to respond to that question. Dane is they're trying to keep the peace a little bit. Like, look everything's we everything will be let's just wait until after Mito. We'll all come together. And discuss that we're going to go back to door Corey. That's where we're going to discuss and decide that's what I'm still focused on. Let's work toward that goal. And so, you know, what you know, what Mark you would've been gone, you're gone. If it wasn't for me. Kierra would've voted they wanted you gone. I convinced them to keep you and markets like well. Yeah. But but Kira could've voted me out. And I was like, yeah. Until I convinced him not to. But I was only on the block because you didn't use the veto on me. Oh my God. Oh my God. I I you not be here for noth- for me. Did you wouldn't even have been in that position where you're safe? You know? And I I wouldn't I if I'd won. I wouldn't put you on the book and he's markets. Bring it back to you. You know, using the veto on me was asinine. Asinine. I would not have put you on the block. And Mark says that's because it doesn't fit your story line to do that. And Adam says, you know, what if you're storyline? I don't care. And. Because just like, wow. You know, what I would never have said f your storyline. Adam. You didn't hear me saying f your storyline? When you didn't use the veto on me. Dunk under sation. I don't know what Marcus thinking. Nothing at this point. He's messed up. He's he's he came in thinking, I've got all these votes. We're going to get Adam out. No, no shit happen. Even the ones you probably could have potentially got out. You've got to be whatever Anthony's agenda is you needed to convince Anthony. And since that didn't happen. Exactly. Although to be Anthony is kind of just sitting every time Mark comes the romance. And he's like, oh, yeah. That was great. That was great. Yeah. It was it was be a tough guy. Maintain your tough guy thought it was high. Yeah. You were talking. Yeah. So Anthony, Adam. Dane do talk a little bit of like Marcus kind of means going rogue. He's make decisions without us. That's not good. Anthony, says lemme lemme hand all I'll make sure to punish him. I'll make sure to put him in his place. Make sure he knows he shouldn't be making decisions without us. He doesn't actually do that. Anthony says I'm ready to love him. So he's got to say the right things before sir that doesn't enforce Dane is going to talk to Mark briefly before the nominations Dane is like Mark is like I mean, I know you wanna win the veto and you don't Adam. But maybe maybe you shouldn't win the Mito. Maybe that would be a good idea to not try and win the veto. And then subsequently use it on. Maybe he's not best game to win the Mito. Because maybe I don't want him to come down. And so then the fees down for nominations and Mark nominates Adam and Damian and pretty sure during the veto ceremony at them. I don't know if you Anthony speech or what he did. But he ELD at market. And Marcus like, no, you can't yell at me. Big, man. And stuff like that. Fica during every time on the episode that they say the word storyline. These comeback from nominations. And Mark seems like a beaten, man. Defeated disappointed. Talking to the cameras like this is nuts. Nuts like coconuts and celery or whatever he says. And he says how am I gonna play this week? I don't know. I might just have to ride with the pretty boys until the end damn damn. Adam you don't scare me. Even though I clearly seem very scared in this moment, and I just randomly brought up that you don't scare me right after I concede. My plan that I wanted to do. But you really don't scare me at him. Just because you're big. Adamy not scare you. I say to the cameras. Swear. Camera. You see you see, I'm a lion O'Hare, Adam. What are you talking about? Yeah. Point is seems like Mark is backing down. He seems like Marquez realized back down after you nominates them that and find out that there's no way at the person out. Seems like he realized that things are not going particularly well with his plan. I again, I can't say for sure what his plan is. Because no matter what his plan was. It was asinine. But whatever his plan was it definitely seems to failed. He seems to have realized that it cannot succeed. I think maybe it was the KIRO was not on board at all that. And does not seem onboard. Dane does not seem on board. Nobody seems on board. And so without anybody on board. He can't really do it. Unless he tries to do a backdoor play which would be even worse for his game. So. He's he's kind of realizing that he might not be able to make this happen. And maybe his best option is sticking to the pretty Boyce. Yeah. I mean, if you put two pretty boys up, at least, they probably would have fought against each other. And there might have been some fractionally there. But with marks luck the third pretty why would just win and take them down. And it doesn't matter. Yes. So to recap by the way, Mark in his issue each week has failed to take a shot at the pretty boys and succeeded in pissing off all of the pretty boys and pissing off Damien, his only other real relationship outside of the pretty boys and pissing off Kira? The other person he was working on a relationship with outside of the pretty boys. Yeah. 'cause I mean we shouldn't fail to mention late. Daily was blindsided about being put up daily into nuts coming very upset about it crying through his frosty. Probably. And it's just really not. Is not good for Mark. Critical in here could have put up Corey necessity. Deign would have been happy Dame would've been all onboard. And hey, if Dane managed to convince Mark to actually back door Corey than hill manage to piss off the one remaining person he hasn't pissed off Anthony when win. How much marking go down like I said, I just need Mark stock to go down. So I'm okay with whatever happened. It's almost like I've allowed shorting tap. And. All right. So Anthony as a conversation with Mark, which is only going to further solidify the idea that this is just not going to work to get Adam out. They talk about how great it is. Nobody can come even close to thinking. The guys are working together. They say all the heat is off of Dane, this is wonderful. I love that. We're protecting Dane so much Anthony tells Mark too. You said this. Hey, mar keep up with the tough guy act and Mark says it's not an act it's not an act. It's an act it looks interact. It's completely an act everyone sees it's an act except from our crew thinks that it's working Mark needs to go to Anthony's acting school. Like Mark heard the phrase fake until you make it. And he really just took that very literally. And he definitely hasn't made yet. Now. Thinking about Corey saying. Yeah, that was hot the way. Mark was. Zac earlier in the day. When Mark was like, I wanna get Adam out Corey was like, oh, you're you're turning me on. By the way, because because because corey's another person that's trying to emulate Anthony. And that's something that Anthony said a few weeks ago in a room with Corey there. So now, Corey emulating that behavior and not only emulating that like that that phrase itself, but the behavior that supposedly turns them on is the behavior that has that Anthony has been telling them they need to emulate need to be aligned that turns you on ALPHA's me, and my broS, we're all ALPHA's. Next week when ST is somehow gets under Anthony's thumb and she's walking around talking about how she's allying. Then we've just not whole house a house, full Ian's. Yes. You'll turn everyone on. So Anthony says, hey, don't worry about the vote. I've got I have everyone. I've everyone Adam will be safe markets like, Yup. And hopefully, Adam imposes himself. But even if he doesn't those fine S T, I mean, S T wouldn't vote Damian outright she'd she'd vote him out and and things like I get vote against him. That's fine. All right. Yeah. That's cool. All right. All right. So that's that's that's really like what's one story from the day. It's the market in and atom thing. There's more. There's another story. Sure, the real important one knowing that the show is trying to distract us with. Yes, I call the story Adam searches for clues. Adam he's playing around in the archive room looking around bookings in boxes. And then suddenly he finds a small little yellow box. Oh, where did this box? Come from. You might ask production. Probably put it there. Or maybe Marsha the most put it there. You never know. He opens the box and in the box. He finds a small little flashlight. What does this flashlight? Do you might ask? What what could you possibly need a flashlight for the lights are incredibly bright in that house? It's not just a regular flashlight. It's a black light flashlight. Oh, using this black light flashlight. He reveals a message in the box. The tells them about a game changing secret that he must find in the archive. He's hall to the diary room. What is this Mary? What's happening fund time? Next time on Adam searches for clues. I'm dana. And I need to know what's happening with Adam. Why is he that I room? Why was he just in the archive room? I don't like this. Got to be the second or third time this season that Danesi something happened. Just runs around yelling at everyone saying Adams got a clue up thinking. Oh, shoot number. I hold on. Hold on. Wait. Maybe. Sorry run around telling everybody that you you had some special or did something. Yes. So Dane runs to the ST something's going on this searching the archive room. And he can't find the tape recorder that he apparently a couple of days ago and didn't tell anyone. And so the tape recorders gone out of it's called the diary. He's in there going back and forth. Something's going on something's going on. He runs and he's he's plots himself down and says, I'm just going to wait right here for Adam Pike's come out of there. I'm gonna find out. What's happening? There's no way. I'm letting somebody else get this. And so comes out of the dire. What's happening? What's going on? Why are you come to him? What are you talking about is just needed some cream? Conversation. What were you doing pooping? No, I just need some cream. That's all they were just asking me about the speech. Sure. It's all left. Yes. Adam when holding onto the pipe in that age rage competition, many of them that weren't on it for like two seconds injured their their arms. And so he's got got some cream for the arms and designers. Daines like what about the tape recorder? What'd you do with it? Tape-recorded? We'll take. I found a tape recorder in here a couple of days ago. Now, it's gone when you do with it. You found a tape recorder. Why don't you tell me? Just let me look into your eyes. A second. Alright alright you'll get away with this one. Adam has a cure in the arc ever as well. Well, he found a tape recorder. I'm gonna look around some more. I guess and. All right. All right. I don't I don't feel like looking around inboxes. There's nothing going on Swingley, Adam and Kira? They're searching around in the boxes for a little while Adams giving smirks to the cameras and curious talking like I can't believe Dame found a tape. Recording. Didn't tell anyone about it. Like, it's out the data so sketch about this. So. Eventually cure leaves. And then Dane comes back and kind of babysits atom for a little bit longer and eventually Adam leaves as well, and there's just a little bit attention for the rest of for a little bit more of the day where you can tell Adam kind of wants to go back, but Dane is like laying there like watching like making sure like, hey, hey, we're all hanging out in the living room together. Nobody wants to go find anything. There's nothing to be found. Right found. So that's going on. Meanwhile, Anthony and Corey are upstairs in the bedroom and hanging out and he's talking about how he can outrun a moose, right? Yeah. Very into animals. He's very confident that he in a forest with like, lots of trees and stuff to like jump on and stuff. Outrun a moose. I run a moose. Eventually get around to their plans moving forward. Corey asks, you know. So if Adam comes down because Adam winning vetoes best best-case scenario for us. Adam comes down ST goes up. Could we home? Home. And then he says Damien, I think I'm thinking Damian, he's just a bigger threat than I, unfortunately, both snaked us and. So we might as well just sent home the bigger threat. And of course, like. Yeah. You know, it's weird because I don't think Damian even knows that we know. About him fake betraying us. I don't think even knows that. We know about the fact that you convince me that he betrayed us. Even though he didn't I don't think it does. And I wouldn't. Like he keeps acting like he can trust us. And like we can trust them little does. He know. So Anthony broken. And then he says Damian Damian's definitely the one to leave Damian ill in a lot of trouble here. Daming looking like, he might be going home. If he doesn't win this veto. So then they talk more about adamant veto if they win the veto would love they would have to use it on atoms, and they prefer to not win the if they don't have to they'd love for Adam to win it. And then, you know, Corey starts talking about like the triple. It'd be great. If Adam on the triple he can take out people like Mark and Dane for them and. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. That's that's exactly what we want. Well, I mean, we could also win triple ourselves. And then I guess, you know, thinking about it. I guess if I won the triple then we would probably take a shot at Adam at that point at the triple because we don't want him getting Adam the final five to good competitions and things like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess I guess so she's interesting thing about it. Now, if that does stay on the block, which probably vote them out this week, right? Like, what are we have our shot? We should we should probably take it and things like. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Just can't think of argument against that at the moment. So yes. Corey. To go to the bathroom, and he's like. Not happy. No. Oh, oh well. Who is happy with this day overall? Yes. So this tells us a few things actually because Anthony does not talk to the cameras. It tells us that he was genuinely frustrated with corey's plan to target atom in the triple of which means Anthony really doesn't want to turn on Adam before the final five at least right now. He really does want to protect Adam all the way down to that final five. He has talked to some other people about maybe we can cut out on lose. Maybe if the thing comes to it. But, but when it comes down to what he wants to think he really does want Corey to take Adam down as far as he can. And also tells us that he is Louie know. Not as much control over Korea's. He wants after he says f he you can see him thinking mode, and he's definitely trying to come up with. How do I convince Corey to not go after Adam? So. It's interesting. And I think another part of this too. Is that like if this gets out if people find out the corey's coming for Adam than than big man, Anthony, all of a sudden, not in control of side beast thing that he's been talking about for so long? Hey, I do I do my job. This is what this is what I do all of a sudden not doing it as well. Then he becomes Adam and Corey Sam, and we know how that turns out and in this moment in this moment of feeling like he might not have as much control over quarry as you might think he's going to go downstairs, and he's already feeling insecure. I is a brief conversation with Kierra an atom in the pantry Adam says if he goes this week he goes. No, no, don't say that Adam. Oh my God. I'll I'm gonna win the veto. And I'm gonna use it on you if I win. And then like that'd be it. Wouldn't that be awesome? If the weakest player in the game took the save strongest player in the game, Adam don't give up please. Again. Like, here's that person that kind of joke around with him a little bit. And they've taken like way too seriously, which is going to be very element in the coming conversation. And so they say look if I don't win the game. Adam I want you to win the game. So you can't go home. And so after cure leaves the pantry Adam is like, well, I'm not going to be going home. I'm going to find the game changing secret in in archive room, or I'm gonna win the or whatever I wonder what it is hope it's like immunity, or like some sort of power or, hey, maybe the blood veto is back pizza party or something thorough. Well, here's the thing. Apparently the wording was a game changing secret which implies that it is a game related twist. Although my my initial guest was was just it was Marsha. So like wasn't. It's supposed to be a game changing secret that Sam was like a moderately good liar. And yes, seasons or whatever. Two very very true. So yeah, I mean, I don't I doubt. It will be something like a blood veto or doubt, it will be immunity or anything like that. Because that was just basically used it will probably be more something along the lines of the the first one, you know, go back and forth. Maybe so. Honestly like for brief moment. I was like, man. This Marsha task is going to Adam victim because Dan going to be so pissed. Anyway. So Anthony in this moment of feeling like, maybe I don't control Corey as much as I thought. I was maybe, you know, that's that's my whole. That's what makes me a lion. He goes downstairs in Adams poking fun at him a little bit. Hey, Anthony, Anthony, Corey Anthony Corey sitting in a tree KISS. I n g. Anthony, White white taken all the cookies Anthony. Adam is riding high right now, he he's he's got this like secret power. And so he's he's just like high on life, and he's just like messing around with Anthony. And so Anthony, of course, snaps back or sorry. Chirps back and starts talking about like. I'm not sucking farts out of people's mouths or whatever. I'm not the one that was obsessed with Sam fallen Sammer. Oh Sam let me I never just like ask for you know, what can I do for you? Sam please tell me. And so then Kira gets involved here tries to kind of step in and in defend ADEMA little bit. Oh, Anthony, you've been following Sam Corey around just as much just as much, and we know exactly how Anthony feels about that what you to shower together. He didn't say that this time. But he said the last time, and so Anthony is like, no, no, no cure. You of no no way, you can talk about this. So Anthony shifts focus to cure talking about how they were obsessed and followed around. Chelsea and Sam chirping back in each other Chirpin back and forth. But anything that happens here with Kira who takes things too seriously, or with Anthony who can't lose anything is destined to become something very uncomfortable. Yeah. Chirp off gone bad. And and everybody's just too intense for their own good. Yes. It gets. It gets weird. Anthony starts bringing other people in like Damian ST or sitting there and he's like oh Damian Dame. What what do you think? Do you think that was was was was cure following Sam around was cure? How much can you hang out with cure last week Damian? Did you hang out with cure a lot? I mean, not not a lot. But ST how about you. Did you hang out with? And it just it goes too far. It gets gets weird gets uncomfortable. And and cure, eventually kind of storms off and starts crying. And it's it's it's a whole thing. Yeah. Well. Is cure going to cling to Adam now. That was that was one of the things. Oh now fallen Adam around. Left to somebody. I I that's not even true. I hang out with you last week so much. So then cure is going to go and complain about this whole situation to various people like ST and an atom and then eventually get back together with Anthony. And they're gonna apologize to each other. And you know, they say to other people into Anthony, you know, the only reason this hurts because I love you so much, and I respect your opinions to when somebody respect is coming out that it's one thing if it had been somebody, I don't respect, but because much Anthony it really hurts a little, and it's a whole thing. Did you go to Anthony's acting schools that how you learned your impression? It just came to me. I've been listening to them for so long. I still feel like I felt I felt like I found it at the start of this update. And I was like, wow. This is I feel good about this. But then I'm trying to replicate it, and I can't remember. So I'm gonna have to go and listen to what I did at the start. Studied the tapes is good. I give. So. Adam. We're we now bring you back to our scheduled programming. Previously on Adams searches for clues Darren I don't know what's going on just cream searching for thing secret game changing tower. Now, we bring you the latest episode Adam goes back to the archive room. He doesn't have the flashlight with him though. So I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. I don't know if he needs the flashlight or already used it or what's going on. But he's looking for clues. He's poking the TV's he's prying out the picture frames and big goes like Adams stop that. All right. All right. That's fine. He's looking around. He's looking at some boxes. But I don't know. He seems to be waiting for production to do something. Like, he's like just call me in already like, I don't know if he doesn't he's looking around very hot heartedly like like he doesn't actually expect to find anything in there. I don't know if he's waiting for like a next step. Is the person in this room who just wait until the appropriate amount of time for another hint? Yeah, I guess. So this the rule where they say you don't need to take picture frames off walls or unscrew lights. He's getting yelled at. You're out his one escape rooms hilarious. Yes. So it's possible that like maybe he needs the the black light flashlight in order to find the next clue when he doesn't realize that and he'll just be stuck here forever. Or maybe the block late thing was just for the initial clue he read, and he doesn't need it anymore. And he just needs to look for something. Or maybe he needs to wait for production to introduce something else. I don't know. But for right now, this is where the story ends. I don't have a preview for next time. Because I don't know what's going to come. But maybe maybe we'll find out tomorrow on Adams riches for clues my money is on it. Not being a game changing twist. All right. We know we know how good Mary is with money. Hey, look, I like doubled all of my honesty. I don't know my stock. Switching to Mark last week move. That's fine. Least I won't lose to. We'll see. This is what it looks like folks to lose lose everything. Gosh, it's okay. At least I'm not farting in a jar. That you love that work there, Terry probably love. Yeah. Adam was wanting Dame to to do that. Because apparently, they're really bad. We don't need to talk about it. And then finally before bed Dane had one more conversation with Mark where again, he just chips away at Mark's. Resolve. And he says Mark we need to consider what to do with the veto if it's used I don't think ST should go on the block and Mark is kind of like. You know, what you're probably right. Maybe we should consider Corey. Maybe maybe we should save a little bit of Mary's money and put Corey on the block. Instead argue argument. I I don't know maybe. And so that ends. Yeah. That is. Chat people that I lost all my money. And that's why I came back home. And if anybody wanted to my dad is still here. Really I was trying to. I guess it wasn't. No. You definitely helps. You made it so much. Yeah. All right. Right. Follow. My dad on social media. So a couple of things that happened this morning Dame. Again, like I said had the exact he was in the same Hodie in the same spot talking to Mark in the bed at the same exact time and this time this morning today. Again, I don't have a detailed conversation for you. But they were talking again about putting Corey on the block, it seems like this idea is further solidifying Dana saying what we need to do. If this veto is one and used we need to sit Anthony down and say, this is what we need to do and Margaret. Okay. Okay. So it's looking more and more like Corey might actually get the back door this week. Not looking good for Corey. Amien? I'm okay with anything saves Damien. I I I'll I'll believe it when I see it. I just feel like Anthony might not let it happen as much. I mean, I don't know exactly what he could do. He hasn't been the best at com. So I don't think he can like do much, but. I don't know. It'll be interesting. Yeah. I mean, basically what what what's happened so far is that during SAM's HOA tweak. There was a proxy war that happened between Dane and Anthony Anthony one he kept Corey safe, and he sent KiKi home this week. There's another war it's between Anthony. And Dane this time it's over Damian's life and Dane is trying to protect Damian and get Corey out Anthony is trying to protect Corey and get Damien out. And so round two. We'll see if Anthony has the stuff to keep Corey safe once again or if lose this one and have to go forward without without without Corey in the game. Yeah. In the long run, it might be better to lose Korea to not have the perception that he's trying to save her like out of MAs with Sam. But it's six one half dozen another. Yes, because they were talking about like the reason why Anthony wants this is because he can't win competitions. He needs somebody else to income Titians taking out and. We can't be in the end with Anthony. You know, people are going to hate me says Dane, people hate me. I have to betray Damian. I have to betray ST. They're gonna be so mad at me. You know, people, you know, people don't like you, Mark. We've got a chance against each other. Even Adam people are gonna be mad at him. But Anthony got no blood on his hands. He's never touched the block. He opens his mouth and angels come out. He's dangerous to take the final two. So who knows? It'll be it'll be a long game of Anthony plays this. Well, then gets cut at the end. But happens so veto competitions. Should be today. We'll find out who wins the veto. And then it will go from there. Mark has backed off from his plan to get rid of Adam. But that doesn't necessarily mean he'll stop trying to convince people to get rid of him. So don't put a completely out of your minds and Adam is not completely out of the woods yet. Because I do think that there's a chance that if Mark actually just comes out and says, maybe we should just take atom out right now chancy could convince one of the pretty boys somebody like Anthony. But for now, it's not looking good. And and then it just becomes is going to be Damian or is gonna be Corey who knows maybe Damien veto. That'd be interesting. You know, I have not heard you say that you think s going home. So I'm feeling better about this. Well, that's true. That's not looking likely to go home except for if Damian was veto. If Damian won the veto and Mark decides not to put up Corey ST will go up s you'll probably go home. So she's definitely in some danger as well. But we'll we will find out a lot more about how this week is gonna look like after we see the veto play out. So we'll find that out today, and we'll come back tomorrow morning at eleven am eastern up to you and everything that happens today with Vito and all that stuff on the big brother candidates feeds and then tomorrow night's we'll be live to recap the the nomination episode of candidates, and then the night after that we'll have our Monday around table where we will dash Mary's hopes and dreams ST's. I have a vote. Point. Straight tends for me this week. It's gonna validate your vote. Oh. Alright. So there you go. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong Darren Mary frail Mary. Yes. Hashtag frail. Daddy. I want to apologize again. Especially to be audio listeners for the beginning of this podcast. But it was go back and listen to the first five minutes or watch the first five minutes of the video. It'll all make sense if you want to in just completely fall apart too much. He thought he wasn't in the shot. But he was I don't know what it's so funny. 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Do YOU Know Who Michael Chang Is?

"But let me news bringing bringing bringing bringing bringing bringing what's up y'all you'll listen any yeah we set it back for a new year were about two weeks into the twenty nineteen season and i can't speak for everyone else but i personally feel like this season is already ready sitting on a nevertheless were happy to be back an heading into the best slam they australian open a gun out my friend how are you i'm so and i'm telling what's up a nothing much just a china get through the day 'em we're joined here today by are good friends with them hand anthony anthony he has a point i am i am the girl with the hand you got them all right ready thank you for joining us anthony you're gonna you're gonna say that i never saw anybody may okay okay so i mean the first thing i have my note says i'll be the unfortunate player retirements that have been happening over the off season ended last all this year 'em i have lucy staffer offer over down 'em she withdrew from australia and she says she's gonna play i mean it was supposed to be her final event but she said oh sure yeah a so that's really unfortunate 'em of course i go i want spca retiring at the end of last year fan favorite yeah everybody fan favorite with all the tricks cs 'em but i mean she's been around for a while she calls problem through most of the girls novels and promotions listen i forgive adam was the queen like i remember i used to see the stats about her being like the bagels that she will be under surrender and there'll be like close i do i policy bagel ending drugs and i was like super bagel meeker yeah i mean i just like don't fuck you up yeah yeah like mental fucker 'em i will i from when when i think of aca first of all i think the fact that she missed down a few chances to win a slam when you start saying well haeberle yeah there's several in there that she should avoid that was her her title an australian twentyfourth they are idle it was yes sir 'em i but i also think about the first time i've really noticed this was after two thousand seven usa open because she took you know brower in the third round halo larry it was funny like she was playing her like a junior like scooting up right in front of service line in saint like just fucking i thought it was hilarious and i always enjoy the highlights 'em we have behind the yoga naski 'em not i super top player but still somebody who has accent who hit you hard yeah this is the one i'm a super pissed off about is virginia to resign out a little apple from twenty twelve he has an ass whooping coming her way she talks about it found a way to invade it for six years long enough to retire he didn't pull up because okay when i think about things about kept quiet state was supposed to get murdered in plenty of time and she never got it but bridge anywhere close to like just just qualified girl and meet up in the first round of a major introduced the state in town like but the rams didn't do it now you have one job like we need to do one thing you could not do it like put up but you know you know happy you know good luck in your retirement so i guess yes girl a we wish you the best but but i really like laying back out yeah i mean if you ever feel like you're body heal enough you wanna play one more year yeah come on come on back girl we will commit we have alexander vans rolls back has oh yeah yeah from canada yes that was i see i see i know all about retiring me either yeah yeah well i every time i see something like on twitter something i take a screen shot of it and then i go back later and look and i'm like oh shit like that i'm not i don't think happened she had a cute bats against venus did i wanna say it was either like canada or cincinnati in like twenty twelve as far as being this is playing so well before she got her they like yeah like you have to leave the wimbledon master side because you know like she was really struggling at that time and try and figure things out but like but once he got the carport she she was really playing well she said that she was she was she's moving well okay anyway 'em the reefer era of course is retiring a later during the clinton he's playing a little but he doesn't want to do three out of five so he's just gonna play some little events leading into the clay and then he's done so 'em missouri one of i think so i don't think yeah it's probably gonna be a term insane i would think and you haven't been enjoying about these players like to like retiring quote unquote like they're ending like i it took me by lousy let's hire irish highly you a little bit of the last major but they're kind of like places like me he got into them right yeah yeah but i really enjoy that right i think it's pretty cool i love that lee pereira i think that he gets overlooked in this era obviously didn't win a major in like those guys you know right right but they're not offering first of all three are has one of those like when we talk about retiring games we all like novak and like mary like w pereira's up there with them as far as like what's her undecided votes in one who wants to like obviously didn't have the body for the sport wasn't like you're a typical but like made the best of what what what he had been there a few players that i used to see that run down everything like when i think about like michael chang ran down everything like diaby pereira ran down a very same people who naomi michael sanger he said who do these people in the macro saying not my problem but my cloud they send out if you have the same as you know google is free you know you a little bit of data but he michael chang well ww pereira we're talking about he was the person who like may though he was you could tell their kids work ethic was extremely high and i always had a respect for that because it's like i i figured that he wasn't gonna win a major just because my style of play be had in like the guys ahead of him but you know you may major fire knows he made a bunch of semi's like he was always there for a good chunk of time as far as like in the latter stages of event in he would like you you he was kind of like i would you kinda like low he rooted for him like even when he was going against her baby were like i like that'd be like embiid while you were pressed about it where it's like it's like you know fed wanna know that iraq whatever you like oh whatever but i you know i hope that he he he he's gonna be one of those guys like he looked like a good coach innocence because like i say a good work it out good work work ethic you can pass that down to somebody there'll be fun to watch i can't think of some people right now the but my name any names but make curio held oh okay a main know how yeah i mean we have some coaching changes happening i don't understand any of them well one but a you know of course you have to mention venus scrapped a big chunk of her team says you know moved to a new state a so you got rid of that she's she just cleaning up to cleaning house who's living her best life she's doing what she wants to do something absolutely miss okay i know you guys didn't like david where david where tobin is the truth even when there was like a necessary which is the problem that whether that's that's the beef but like he was honest what part my problem is like i wish he would just kept that you know between him her and now that we're not gonna cancel my main problem with him yes however i'd i'd never saw anything there he said that was it correct i however i do like that she kind of i mean it was just like a you know you've been with us alone like if she made it seem either a fresh voice even that voice was just part though yeah 'cause she seems like she left left might twist it that is famous fucking william black d v in these areas like okay if we it doesn't need to be like she knows how to play saying they see no it's but she also so knows they're like she wants to work as she but she didn't see but there were working absolutely her perogative to be like i don't i need something else something fresh and if that if that freshness people were like who's the next coach who's whatever the next coach can be venus williams that's it she has that right so be like i just wanna play tennis in enjoy myself in half on elaborate she's been a fresh no player for well over twenty years she was a girl and that's a grown woman now do not get it twisted i'm very excited that she kind is trying this out and if it doesn't work like whatever like i would say the thing about they let people but i'll be like yes we are watching eight major been legacy a sad thing that i learned that they gotta hit another part ever dependency wants to is why i want her to because she wants to keep playing so let let let let let let let let's let's go to work i also want to say something about everywhere 'em so david wet joined venus's team as they hitting partner in two thousand seven i am venus's last major win win win two thousand eight k so of her seven slams only one of them came during her eleven years would they may be who could see one woman outside of that mm i think i think he came in after i remember my room but i will you know i don't wanna say i don't either i don't either but i can't i can't remember i said i've been drinking oh so 'em you know okay maybe two maybe two a m i don't know i just i don't think the venus may i don't think that data which may be mince words it when people who will have been kind of implied like i don't think but he like hindered her game i do i well like in the most recent years yet but not in oh seven oh eight oh nine starting eleven like jenna auto immune disease anthrax i feel like like what what he is number two in the world and she was number two when the world too much saint louis man or see with the morning doubles yeah but she had too much talking on her forehead that you're too i think that's one thing but what i will about this is that you know he he had a good run but like nine this shit is permanent like if you feel like if she felt like she wanted some new stuff that fine if he's you know sad about that like they are so if i'm like you know life goes on i want the thing is i want the best for being this always our being is to win always so if seatbelt like that she had shake her team up 'cause she got rid of a lot of people residents she got rid of vermont is walked in i got rid of a lot of people if you got rid of a lot of people it's it's obviously a sign that she felt like in all of her in her playing tennis her entire life literally that she needed to make the same so i'm here for that i'm get david like i like the fact that the david witness gone like she deserves he he had to go but it was time it was on so it'd be another day i want i want vina's true i want the bengals like when venus's like having fun in just playing her like how like just playing the door her stuff like she doesn't go gonna give us her her best results were not go where were never gonna get venus of two thousand star one or two thousand two thousand three or starting five restocking several of them were never gonna get that person 'cause she's almost forty an i don't want to see that person i wanna see i wanna see two thousand seven minutes after beating coco's portland on the court i wanna like i wanna see that that makes me happy mhm you know that i don't need to see the famous dragon i do want a fifty a title absolutely please i want i want that i want that before paris absolutely should be in yes yes yes they are absolutely of course it can't be at andy where it could be in hurricane is going to be in hungary it can be an article she really vulture there were some years were seized really votes at the little titles i kinda missed that i know she doesn't wanna play that much anymore but yeah there's there's two and a half million that much anymore but i mean we could just you know make one trip in when the term it real quick gift fifty all hey let's let's not one of these one of these international law that the land get accu chek wedding whereabout money but get it any way you know yes yes we we don't need monday monday we got that yeah so i don't look i'm busy because the thing about being is still has her own business venus venus okay let's talk about this will be quick if they got it online famous designed yeah hey man for a long time now anybody go at it first of all they may have been praying caesar there she her prank game is just like anybody ever since court damn thing man but he could stop playing tennis now an instance of beautiful see what's hard like she's defying calls for these girls somewhere girl's gonna be endorsed by a lab and she has multiple successful business she's interior just fine book of business so i'm just very excited like i but i do why because like i said if betas they don't wanna play to issue a good anymore she would stop playing so right i want her to keep playing sanders i want her to keep doing makes her happy what keep foresees you know like i say like people like like like she is not like she's not at a retirement age in real life could that's like sixty seven bc the reports have fired stop asking her about it end if she wants to keep playing there's one place you could be five roger if you have any far door that i wanna watch being a place that regardless of their appreciation for what it is now her presence on the court exactly 'em this is one that i do not understand and i do not think it was time for a summit halep anderson k hill but daring also said that a beauty is you know like family issues and stuff like that and like they couldn't make it work anymore you know or i just saw post on twitter that he was given hardships that once you will have another practice match against somebody like literally like a couple of hours ago at australia i'll be up at the australian open so what is the true wow well maybe that's just not the you know like not there's the partnership is not unofficial basis but if he sees and he gonna help them out no sure mm i raised make it look like overly yeah yeah and mix it in like i said i don't like or you had a terrible starts the year because he played saint me in that residency law however hold on hold on critical of course it takes some on the loose the man made a the kuhn's mate sat now now yeah i do too okay i daily right because i said you you saw what happened in new york why you're not gonna let it happen again right she struggled against cannot be apparently that girl not always gonna be it's not afraid of her like afraid of her running stuff down but the reason why summer window is because someone a fight even though i'm also not hitting one hurt but start a fight in i don't think if she does move it won't be easy if there wasn't new york but i did not picard so you know that would that would just be a weird kind of moving on a another one i don't understand here sloan stevens splitting from mount mary lou insane well that's not bad 'em yeah i mean truly like girl what are you doing something something had happened like the really like change wasn't illinois number something when i in stores i think so i think it was either he he really enjoyed working with her last year like the whole year like he was just so complimentary so proud of her like the whole year he won one her mazer hello and then and then coasted to a french open final i am host her bike so good results that you're like damn you know that you are my in miami end of that final simona joined the uss opening series like that would be best mental the wcc oh that's you know that that montreal so good it was first of all that match those rallies for so long when michael and i don't know if it was just like wow and i even allow big moment idle comey was better i argue that the real okay i'll do it myself i don't like simona adjusted and they're like slow got tired but the quality like they were like even even exhaust the athlete buffalo matthews they were going for everything so me what i'll say about smoke and like i said i first of all i'll say this i never root against a black woman but like i can't move prior yet but she is a big bass player and i love a big match player i love it i love a person who wakes up like this i wanna go get this is she's one of those like that play well sheila big bass player however firing back coats a may yeah she was tripping going just throwing her results from what slowly a racket 'em i don't look at a minute 'cause i don't remember where i put it out i remember early a rocket mustard early 'em i have an idea that oh yeah i definitely have a going deep in france or no outlook very early in the debate she she gonna blow through taylor townsend oh yeah i mean like oh my god i say six two six two it's it's it's not gonna be cute i know that no oh and then we have a look up we heim whereas my family morass my oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely get my fans if you stop yeah lee i'll tell you this real quick cut on family she is she has like the coach dna in her like she's going to be a great coach i wish that a woman one man would pick her up but she's trying to like be the the face of like woman's coaching like we could do it so like she's in love with me here but like that was you know why why am alito work you know big toyota as a writer hey you wanna know why i do wanna know why big okay deca hurt right well what happened with baker right now is hurt games is what we know from from her unlike what she has not there but what had like in her career was some variety and emily is variety an it would be a better voice the ban selling her do this do this and i feel like emily would get through to be good enough just like major chad gable like they both got two majors i feel like she wouldn't be able to help her out because when i when i watch i watch you play vein is a an awkward and like because it gets in trouble so like i thought the business is gonna win that match i do this when they match but wet waves of will be different with because game is she was eight fighter an she was the person who like first of all she's little thin now it's like her those would have much warmer but she's a personal like her timing especially on the back in the for him not as much was a lot better as she just doesn't have any confidence in her strokes right now then i feel like emily would help with that i think i think we go get there like she got she got one percent back now and they were belong on women women women the guy right now yeah they were going through all these girls in twenty sixteen before she found out she was pregnant but so 'em i think i think she'll she'll get their she'll be alright i think she needs to get back in the gym i agree on the part where she doesn't have there's there's no there's no muslim math doesn't mean they're not like even when she was when she was like small and skinny before like two thousand twelve just like she was she was skinny but she would like fit skinny like there was muscle there in tony definition like you could tell she was like strong but there's nothing there now and i'm like i feel like that that would help her get some of the confidence back because you've probably not the boss he's hitting now cannot possibly be as heavy as it was a few years no she's also very stressed at the moment i'm sure oh yeah for sure so i'm a cutter some slack 'em that's all half were coaching changes but we have some a strain of a withdrawal of course we mentioned before before a state and he doesn't wanna play to it i mean three out of five so he's not going to play the australian we have the atlantic and that's the who's out with injury 'em that's all i'm gonna say to her a little bit her like really quick go ahead man glenn wins really quickly when when people mentioned i'll tell you there's a lot of y'all necessarily a maybe ought to give a lot of these girls there's a lot of you out or give spat a hearse but after that i mean like way we mentioned like we mentioned leaves girls who have like decent careers or whatever but like the cubs bit of a dozen ali's like wise in the lineup who've never been missing mentioned in that conversation especially considering the like the longevity of her career compared to these other girls but she deserves to get talked about an f massively you know my saves rena williams like we do whatever we see all the gifts arena matt oh yeah she she lived up around that one year based upon starting her face twenty sixteen there were i mean even before then like you go back to seven oh eight oh nine yes miami oh eight like distantly today saying oh or you need in two thousand four mass right there that is some he said what will happen all that some heading now for yeah yeah my goodness the girls brought up that bar sucking that now that you're ready to play so yeah very much it was like iran's championships oh nine like half the rate managing that that she she did see that window seat i wanna wish her legs tape that it's highly paid so i wanna give it but just not been like but but cousy like these are ways he's you know taking a beautiful fono i wasn't on my idol like i like still argue that i wish you know that she's getting obviously she's in a race like the groceries on on the the ladder indifferent career so that she could find open like i which i i like this you are always like even when she's not healthy sea otter giving the classic like the mattress you played against gift only at the french like a great man in australia to like all it gives us something to like even if she lost it like it was i was a moment in you know in its history that she always lives there so i'm always gonna like have a soft spot in my place looks better even though you know she's save a couple of times even though real quick real press about that roof oni but doing like you start for the match in that loss that's all you i agree 'em we have lost the past possible phil who's out oh yeah right down his reasoning but he's out that'd be event 'em cocoa vander way anyways max a dump hold my staff hate the devil is out there yeah but he's he's coming back he's already yes they've had february yeah he's gonna be he's already scheduled the van gotten in he's been posting tons of training videos looking great on instagram and social media 'em a a man yeah so a we have restarted gasquet who's also out those were the two people nb a top thirty two who were both out so that kinda changed the seating for the man i'm the homeless robert daddy what about this i don't know i didn't say i just i just thought he would do i really don't a study right max anyway yeah that's it forever withdrawals that i have any way of metal haven't seen anything else in other news i'm gonna fuck up this name sorry 'em stefanos trolled lock glee so blood orange troves of i knew any way that person whoever is thank you sir 'em but not really thank you he recently stepped down from the atp player council 'em after he stepped down council members elective surgeries stokowski yeah a lot it now now thought once the kofsky death yeah off right off the top look i i have no where's the man i'm gonna leave it at that i i don't i don't know who is who is the first step down from the player cancelled who is being widely one time out here talion everything i trump oddly i i think it's a talion and i say that name before yes how what what is what is this man's ranking the relative that oh well 'em i'm gonna say this a says a whole lot about about deep state of the player council to elect a man like that and that's all i i just i i really just like let's let's say they're gonna dollars sounds like nice no respectful stop costs about hockey is that'd be a gate in he's also i gave berry racist by homophobic by the problem that i have with that decision is by everybody already have have known that everybody's talking about this all the factors you voted you got voted for him to be that guy is indicative of you're tour stack hausky is donald trump i let the world will bring up the back he tweets right now of the rest of the machine ripley things but he has stayed in the problem that i have is like he's unapologetic about playing a big it may take to fix him wow jeff big yellow style is listen we're gonna talk about that bait okay but i'll i'll hold up for that thing mhm oh that's what list the samples and i'm excited some samples and i hope that i wish nothing positive but i also it's nothing negative because you know chrysler where they want me to do that but i don't i i'm i'm not nothing that happened on that score is going to surprise me no in other news let's say it's us because we could that could be like a very strong union between the wbz aim atp ab there could be a very like ten as as a whole because what's what's happening as far as like the atp cup bullshit happened what those events that happened in in the australian open or whatever like all that should have been handled by now but the way that that the tour is being run is ridiculous end up bigger out what happened but like so is it got bumped hausky is that yeah so sorry about it i one hundred percent agree 'em in other news germain jenkins after being let go from the team of venus williams already has a new job he's been hired for usa player development as a national coach of women's tennis so he took that he gave wayne desired and he ran with it so a yeah yeah congrats to him i agree i think he's gonna be good for that job with their knowledge and working with one of the legends of the sport right am i here ballots as the hitting partner as a whole like to kind of know how they play like that is a great job for him that picked up and i'm you know he's like he's like you know fine and all that stuff but i'm very happy that he picked up something like that all the stress of working with venus williams for the rector period that like let that be now like lead and he didn't get that because he just some random guy who you know exhibits out of the strip of working with being this of the william i'll be taking this william they were like oh he he's worked with a legit we respect it it including his his top spot that these yeah but good for him a mardy fish in these new davis got captain whether you can see right away from him to congratulations mardi good choice i'm not even thinking about davis cup like not even in the slightest like i'm i guess i'm just waiting for these like these new changes kicking the fact and see how this goes three harlan's yeah yeah like right now i just i've just don't give to fucks about the davis cup but how do you feel about like i always thought that a player who's like a financial professional will always make the coach it it's this is of these of these things you like big like a player in that is something like random shit news voice head guy where you know marty compete at the highest level an i love the guy but he competed you were in a gift like are still crying mouse worthy americans say no right i think it's always i think it's always good to have coaches who have played played in or at least study this current era attendance that we were in like absolutely i think the i think the same thing the gopher like the the commentators and stuff that we have like well that's another conversation and how that conversation about the conversation but yeah i'm not doing it you know what i wanna keep it nope i will say this marty is the choice and like i said the people that he knows the gay person who goes you know marty commentator and he was good at it hey right union 'em but he also kind of know how to win big games play today in you know in other parts of like he played against a lot of the players mount debbie in the four there's you know there's so much he played a lot of gossip right today but he couldn't give that sort of coaching it by as far as david davis cup goes like know how this works but i do agree with you as far as how the new condiment whatever they're doing with that like how that's gonna go you know we're gonna we we have to wait and see what you're gonna be the requirement for that bullshit but i almost said i hope he goes well oh but wait outside do like mardi of captain of the date the cubs you know that was a good pick he's he is it someone like relative pick up seats you don't get tired for that long it was thinking like a gym corier writer a john mcenroe or you know when those guys it was a very large andre agassi mardy fish the more recent than those guys know say to them because you know legends and i love well i like them but absolutely all the saint john mcenroe from me 'em justin gemmell stop david active end alex in blocked the three play representatives for the atp council will joined the council to decide the future of chris i think it's promoting the president's 'em his contract is up in twenty twenty and he endgame of stocks have been said to have been at odds it's for quite some time i'm gonna stop of course is a myth seven aggravated assault trial weaken ballet mentioned fallon m yes i'd be atp constitutions states that promoting we need the support of two thirds of the play representative a this is a close friend of gumbel stops and with appointing temporarily back in november so first of all why even voting if he's there temporarily 'em in glocks elected may it's also relatively inexperienced intends to follow rather than we'd so we know where that where where this saturday for us i might go on saturday by a in australia it's sunday afternoon right now so 'em they would have already voted i haven't seen any updates on it as of yet but yeah yeah he said the messy pacers are the best players are i will say no names even though i have no problem saying anything but we still don't know any information that how with jeff the gamble by voting on any fayette all howard why it doesn't make any sense why is even like leaving the country right now what if that's true like are you out of it ends up the most i'm not gonna say that because i mean when i think that it just think gambles by some of that either geoff diehl most stop just not my thing is if they would have chosen to be a part of that the play a console and all that shit afterwards by the time he is in the middle of some red big louis charge quite obnoxious dad he needs to take off the wasn't but he's the paper like he does it you got like how is he making decision or you are you're bored he might be going to jail right jail jail yeah you're going to they feel like that apathy uprising go see the white american milling about white linen america do whatever they want apparently so and that's all it is my thing is they tore is what okay even though i'm not really kind of giving the compliment that tour is smart and they know how make money in they know how to buy brand while keeping the women out of it yeah they know how to build their tour however there is not a good an if the media which they're not doing right now would the media is doing justice to give the same thing with donald trump like they're not well we we are know what happened when women much they came out all these you know 'em opinionated people had nothing to say an job can we say nine so of course okay saying oh all these opinionated people john wartime who is my favorite sports writer coordinating the win spin rothenberg martina navratilova a low who advocate for gay rights like had lesbian in charge hey you heard that he was being homophobic in basically gay bashing and people but because that was you're homeboy boy in colleague you had nothing to say that was a friend to protect the job sprint i must say this i have lots of friends i'm a very friendly person if my friend was somewhere out being a homophobe so as things stuff absolutely in private i'm gonna check them in you know question represents a russia but at public especially if they're public biggest i'm gonna absolutely check them because because especially if you did that shit in public like you guys had nothing to say an the fact of the matter the fact that he can see out here rally the troops for this bullshit instead of being it's not being sick about possibly going to jail sent a lot that's audit to yards job as quote unquote journalism and got into yards jobs as quote unquote friend in it's very frustrating so being a person or outside who sees that i we every time now we are peak we all were like wait what y'all are young kidding me some some of the nastiest people in journalism i'm lifting hey we'd maxi add some of the most opinionated people in journalism and all of a sudden but the quaint kings and queens the big piece i think he says the kings and queens op ed may have nice things just like i would just like what is happening and the problem but i have which is the most is it just gave i'll start with the current player yeah i would have had a lot to say the letter he's a former player but also a white man is why you are like oh would ever say anything we don't know how they were they were like oh his father died if my here with me in the pro player or whatever quote unquote for in my daddy that you're not kill somebody with the way he did but i'm just saying like y'all were they wrote with russia articles with a smile with a with a with a with a with with with with both with doubtful yeah that makes sense of the the silence from everybody was it was kind of shocking to me like especially like with independence but then attendance media do stuff they break stuff all the time it don't matter what it is constantly talking about it like when somebody had his car accident has been nonstop talking about it talking about it but home these hickam gumbo stop these charges in nobody has anything they say oh we don't really know what happened we wanna wait for this lake what y'all have never waited for the facts to come out so why wait time like you are literally never would first of all i watched the old stuff like with with this accident benefit not in the wrong like they hit her but y'all like but yet benefits crying doll bring up the bullshit at wimbledon why what she's doing well playing well they're like y'all did that but when does not look like oh with is one of y'all y'all y'all guys like oh we're gonna look for the fact that you know his dad just out of whatever like a fuck about that like what what what what most people say it happened he did it man like i said it was it was first picture laze in grows in like like i had one of the current players do that you have little bit runs about it for weeks but because one of y'all y'all guys and you're spraying and you wanna give him the benefit of the doubt like that's how could it but you can't pick and choose where you wanna you wanna told writes a story that's the problem that i have in the fact that so many guys were complicit that's like the fact that everybody that i all of the people that i follow on twitter like my people or whatever like what the fuck this is what's up what's happening in don't got no blog like young i tried i kept like none of us have no were not were not journalism you know what i'm saying we are we are people who enjoy before they want somebody do that but like you were somebody all right for the new york times for the w e see website for sports illustrated had nothing out of disgusting and i'm still disgusting and i'm still not very pleased which is why i've been i've got the longest time like a body for the sport go like i'm not ready for australia because i don't want to give ten is my time in my thing i'm gonna get ready for australia because it's yesterday and open the best slab an because i liked the sunday like look i get it now and i hope my girl she needs to do but the rest y'all stuck in i hope i hope that that tour group stuff and i do i hope that they treat me of that yeah i have i have nothing as so okay i m i hate we're gonna talk about this 'em so andy murray announced that retiring from professional tennis into nineteen i wanna be air who could possibly be his last tournament 'em you stated that he would ideally liked to retire at wimbledon of course with all the history but he isn't sure he could make it until then he said he can play with the limitations post surgery but a that the pain is experiencing both jarring playing an training does not allow him to enjoy what he is doing a lab and that he could have he could have another surgery but it would only be to improve quality of life not to return to professional competition petition 'em a little about that i am from me i am a little bit frustrated with myself just because i jumped in to hashtag marie harf 'em later that marian that yes 'em me you know it took until maybe about twenty fourteen for me to 'em really began appreciating him for who he was a both on and off the court 'em before that i was i didn't dislike him i didn't root against him he just wasn't on my radar 'em even with you know they olympic metal and twenty twelve and when you add up in a moment like i it just wasn't there for me but when he came back after back surgery in twenty fourteen i i i don't know i just began a notice him like his the way he fought and stuff and the way he like really he played his ass off in that fall that year to like qualify for number one london in in all that stuff like you know after not having great results of the comeback from back surgery you know and then to the next year make another outstanding final and then in twenty sixteen have these best year of his career like it was i mean it really really great year for him to be able to do what he did in wouldn't notice lamb and make his first things were finally make the australian open final in london and gets number one like i mean i dunno by then i would definitely in the brain so i'm glad i got to experience his best year as an absolute stand 'em but i'm glad i was able to appreciate that 'em in roofer him during that time 'em but this like guts me like i was i was actually on my way the practice win in danell takes me about a cause i and even seen it yet and 'em yeah that'll take me i'll just get i'm i'm just i'm like got it i'm i i it's a lot it's it's hard to process looks like it's also about beginning of like a who's mac yeah yeah and we were we were talking about the other day like we can't believe that he's the first of the big ford ago i'd have been delayed i will be less yeah right below it blows my mind in my own absolutely heartbroken but i don't wanna i don't wanna get too deep into it until it's actually officially all said and done but yeah i can't i can't i can't believe he got he got a go out like this it's it's a terrible way for for a permanent go atlanta my especially if somebody like andy like this this game i mean so my soul man it's really it's it's animal part that he he can't play like you used to i'm gonna ask a question okay so aid mari where did you look like when did you know the andy murray was like the guy that as far as like you're stay with the players like did you notice you're like i can't like okay i will say when i when i bring up canby are which i do that the moment that i couldn't prove him or i knew what that moment was from me it was when when he lost faith in twenty twelve at wimbledon he two years like that's here's because we feel like i've seen federal cry i like i wasn't move out to move but certainly when he said now when he said i'm getting close like it was just like he he's going to win wimbledon like it wasn't like a it was in shock that he won the won more than me it was because he was it was when when my bed cry cry like i thought they were sad at that site in window major but when i thought it'd be very quiet when he told me it was just like it was a it was a it was a it wasn't a like a guy like all these were down i will say this unhappy it was a i'm so quotes in like but that's just not here yet like i wanna get in and do it in make it in so once that happened then but like i said he wouldn't be worth often afterwards and then he walked in the next year like that's what i knew like oh this guy outside of the stuff you know him being a feminist and always said these journalists and check in letting them know like like ashley muslim they weren't shit all the time so i was very pleased with him in that moment that's when i was like i'm gonna stay in there that's also when i realized like i don't like any of the guys so i'm gonna root for reproduce do yeah i would i would say twenty twelve i will say around twenty twelve with the same macy lost that loss at wimbledon final i will definitely jammed from the win 'cause i didn't want federer to win anything ever again and then a when he won he one a london olympics that year and that's when i knew he was news really only one way to really finally breaking through so i was later then you know what you're saying is what's then by the time he came around like i said like there were so many moments that like listen andy is be like hits them in his head like he's just like he had a woman coach said coach tim like he joe's he kind of like i feel like he like you know i wanna say it's emma league coach in lieu of like you're right now yeah yeah so like if if he did it allow her to be this coach that wouldn't be a thing right now oh yeah for sure like at all it's kind of like he kind of made that up thing and they're like he always was the one who at the ranch men's tennis that's what makes him look like i wish i was like a lot swim sam corey being the first american make a semi final 'em also with that with that last year maybe you know it was funny seventeen yeah and then he was like mel player because he like he recognizes that woman sentence in the sport in like the here and like if you're if you're tiny women's tennis andy murray i mean andy murray sam query isn't even close saying the first place make a semi fine all right so for like whenever lympics they were like oh you across the west google battle but he was like minnesota and a half four for gold medals like he always looks like aware of what's going on in like i always wonder who wrote the respect of him like he didn't he didn't have to be like i said i said like everybody else and kind of dislike dies the questions or war was the yudo or wasn't even that sort of like crap from what happened but he was always like it was always it wasn't like oh i'll come back out but i i would like after this like i'm wanna say this because how i feel and this is what matters aunt you see so many of the women players now is the time they're like oh my god i'm so sad the end he's gonna be gone because they know that not many of the milk play male players are going to be be there for you know their rights and how they feel and he was one of those always present in cognizant of what his you know legacy is gonna mean for men's and women's tennis and i'm always going to be thankful for andy of that no okay no said sit let's get into these drove yes so we wanna draw draws okay so we're gonna talk about the end of the first man relevant relevant one place oh yes okay so after the top of the draw of course we have they were on number one novak djokovic each winner of the tournament he absolutely yeah he opens against qualifier krueger apparently kruger's u s i have no idea who this person is yeah krueger i don't i don't know i don't know i say who i dunno a s m yeah so them he's i guess from the cleveland sec around which is fine okay so i would just say that so we have longer as awol card i'm happy to see songo back and playing well he's playing pretty well in brisbane oh yeah of course your at that oh girl okay so 'em we have songa vs clues on of course like anthony sent the winner presumably gets novak 'em so that's shopping right there i picked clicks on i pick songa i love that too i think look really good in in a he did so house address levels on several levels 'em we have a new corey current a boost a fog meaning medvedev golf fan in south of all of all offering this section do you see do they did you have any threat no that's that's all i said is a bad thing you know they're not gonna stand alone orderonline misericordia it'll be at least according to open quarterfinal soak up its role bruins mr corey yeah like if it's he he does astor power will be back like i in the fun match that shit but that was just meet what do i i get hit with anything to add a bank that will be a third round a chaperone won't get a vast kick yeah it's gonna be like i'll say six seven seven five six one yeah my writing in this house but it's not like fine right like a i don't give a damn about none of the men's matches before the round of sixteen to be honest with you i never knew real 'em okay the a section belong there if he's the four seed he opens versus better names they say that yeah exactly know what you're saying here better there whatever his name is okay i know who that is yet 'em we have rubbery could go missing the section interesting first round 'em it is it could be a it's a one of the first in a little bit but that was back in twenty ten and a decade ago yeah exactly 'em we have curios rail it's which a lot of people were saying i believe brown and orange i am not going to be watching this survive match i'm just not going for it i'm not watching that should either even though if if eddie murphy adulthood nick even though i love you nickel like literally leslie like play and win like one of the try and make sure you also make the quarterfinals at least i think you're right but it's not gonna do that no he's not but like adelaide laid on the bed sound nick subway leading a it's a three in three hit the head but they haven't played since twenty sixteen oh wow really yeah i think like basically when more i think we're also gonna win the match mic is you don't look like he give a damn at the moment see that but essay what i mean like right now and he looked he'd likely top guys that's what like this'll be after he would wake up play but like in their home soon yeah i'm not gonna risk yet though i picked me love for sure i also think milos 'em we have team pair here anyway smack team look he might go out and everyone hates that he's not gonna go marijuana but he's going out early for sure earlier yeah before the quarterfinals or chores will take on the second week were not going that far what all right sean storage pre in team oh offer here yeah i'm in orange just by a goat's or it's i didn't again for the section but go chores oh i think i think i picked him to wow you're basically this extra round me oh but he gets a laugh yeah he hasn't done anything in life been on he's he's he's still top twenty right but he wouldn't that mean charges eleven right yeah right well exactly but i'm slam though which one of his magic ma'am what did you what did what is the last names are below what exactly but he's still made before yeah like what is chores done that have which i like yeah i know me most champion thirty like he's older than me really no he's not he's also twenty if you read put on will write a google december of nineteen ninety eight i thought he he's not he's not he's not i'm joe biden i'd be like oh he's a year older than me wow i did not know that ninety i'm ninety one september september twenty eighth i'm libra randomly story though yes yeah exactly i think it's two days after her all right guys that are really quick i did my myers briggs him like i'm a basket of have the same as well i mean i feel like i would be the game and you know i will be that guy when she she's she don't acknowledge me so i dunno american idol infection to pete and i'm waiting for him to fade into oblivion middle way checking auto with my philosophy will be god that died there died like he's not a threat in team that threat anywhere in the tournament yeah no i don't even right on down i don't remember wow 'em we have the next quarter belonging to roger federer the defending champion yeah open verse time okay they're bidding said we don't we don't have the sale that 'em yes you do get the get upset hey he opens versus is the man she gonna win at of course 'em we have chill edge vs tone making this section i have slid bringing out the corner oh yeah absolutely yeah i believe my semifinalist he left titlis from we have a memorial here it's good to see him in the main draw yes and i haven't been making the around yeah he opens arses all but two term pro in two thousand eight and has eight forty two in sixty six career win law yeah he he fell migrations of berry winnable match let's go yeah yeah i had the right that now i'm like oh that's a yes we have about two still good versus mary ooh i'm there i take but but but yeah i was buried so we're like i i'm okay with losing boatswain oh i'm nervous i can't i have to watch good i think i can like i'm gonna end up watching just in case it's his last match yeah i'm gonna watch it and i'm at home my workout i feel like i feel like it might be it might be kinda hard on a bus he's gotta go to like like the give up at my place that matt since they know how yeah spilling i mean they were so it's gonna be it's gonna be a little awkward oh i can't take it but given the strength of the black panther is the story of a black guy but i i cannot watch him gone there was andrew bird with all my heart argument in the script of the black i'm not oh my god but i do i do like listen i one still wet but with the way he talked about his body whatever domestic him to win the smart choice right also did not pick up the way which is why 'em christmas passing over here yeah chris lowe bay 'em how come i oh i did write down her has a question they ask an ask also here yeah but that's okay anyways well no no no i wasn't going to do of course somewhere else no i have no idea what you're talking about 'cause i don't really 'em anyways lex case 'em that's all i half of the section like i said i pig legitimate okay okay hold on my boys this process here to i say i say his name oh yeah and that's when i mentioned i don't know if he lives nearby like thank you mike equanimity pass because i've never felt like that i've literally never dot calling him city that i don't care but i think it also don't like my like it's a bad but he did say that he doesn't he's a really good job of the fourth room sure there's a lot of qualifiers right there with them with the city in the world qualifiers qualifiers can be dangerous because they've already like late nights on the surface already yes he you should be i don't remember when i put him out remember that yeah of course arale yeah i think i'm gonna do for a federer yeah he's in this accident we okay let me see here a yeah fourth rounder fetter yes yeah he's definitely not taking a roger but he's got it until they're i don't seem doesn't have been doing well i know he's weird it's a weird yeah like yeah so my question is where like oh poor baby yeah it's skew 'em that's all i have the section yes rocco section yeah conan x section belong to one rafael nidal he opens versus duckworth 'em they've adopted the say oh i i did i pick wrap it up with this section because he pulls out of park whether they added i did see him to win because he's gonna play dumb not the demon at the runner running ragged so sure that's why that big proper way even though even though don nelson time i hate but i will tell you i wonder if the president why did not refer to it but you know what i wear that matt but he's not gonna make into the seventies right because we don't know he hasn't played a match is any warm up a bit like i don't know how he playing so i can't win win win at hogwarts argument well he is hard for the rancor a we got i i could see i could see i could agree with you okay that's my that's my boy well you drag me earlier though so what if true we're not getting into that it wasn't even about this particular late he dragged me i said earlier i plead the fifth i got i got nothing to say about this yeah okay well the update brewed with us right here that i had a million to say wow i was a i would switzerland the whole time or even though he was not he wasn't that he was bred in bit max what i wanna say i i do think i would rather that rafer if i would have liked to see like any kind of like match play any kind of if i see him practicing and i'm like oh that's that's gonna be good i'll change my style but i didn't the main thing so i don't want to take stuff i dunno lapland pulled out of the section ashley i think rafa if quarterfinal is am i going to say yes i'm gonna wait who is yours 'em i'm not gonna say i'm gonna wait okay i know he'll he'll wanna give another his picks the way he try and win this brand talking i definitely not winning the bracket let's be clear there's lots of questions surrounding rough as health inform right now currently that's why they wanna have a but he insists he's healthy and he's feeling good he said if i if i wasn't feeling good i wouldn't be here so but he does all the time except except for not quite like that on clay you're like oh you're gonna win it off of clay he's gonna withdraw these are the facts like i'm not i'm just i'm just saying what happens like if he says there between april and june she's gonna win tournament if he's like oh i'm just so oh like he might withdraw so i don't i haven't seen him play anything like i literally saying everybody play a mad i saw novak i felt bad bad i saw serena i saw this i saw sharapova like i think everybody hit tennis balls i have not seen rocked by a single marlin mac so i can't say he was around in darby daily yeah yeah before he would i must i must be this bad yeah he played one round who say oh you ask tomorrow but i do remember i don't remember we play either i will look i'll look but like i don't i don't i thought he would do that so so it's like he don't get after mass though he played when we were okay i i watched i watched and i spoke but i don't wanna take the win the tournament you or match prep the confidence layer to like he's not like like a syringe i can't work herself into a match reflection so but i'm i'm one of those look that up 'cause i did not know he plays like a little bit but i hope that it who conducted the pickup and make it further but it might not be the reason why become so when earlier by patrick seminar and like he runs on everything like they're gonna have a defensive battle is gonna be grows it'll be allowed long rallies and smother bullshit shares also in this section i'm gonna lead last year semifinalists kyle edmund taken one british in the first round that's why would you would you would you say a big birds were not read it really picked i picked landmines looks pretty good murders look pretty have barely a british didn't look good in harm but then he was heading to the movie theater due to lay out there you go who did too well oh he lost about teesta good oh in the end he eventually yeah oh yeah what the finally won the title title whether yes so right about you can beat him i kind i feel like i know but he's weird man he's weird and he says well we will say okay well i would i did a no no better a okay so british police they had the whole they had had one zero but that wasn't twenty sixteen 'em yeah that's that's all i have no i think over at but like i that backup at but got birds have played a bigger match at the end but no yeah first but amazon where the match might be like oh i just moved up point it's five years but also here we have dima drones and a tip service a plane take i did i didn't know that janko tips are average even play tennis anymore i will just say the same thing i wasn't there infused where have you been he's been ranked i swear she's on rank do what i say oh no no nothing i see the two years oh that's how long it's been i thought more 'em but okay so he has a form when they had they had against bigger but i will say like you can't debate that you m nobody last played in twenty sixteen really the only greek or win within twenty thirteen ooh oh greek or yeah so there's that yes i'm sorry i think you're bad dude i still pig agree with them as yeah i mean rebuilding harvest my damn thing and also know that may at all so me either a you know what gregoire practice what the kwame he got when he did this again yeah she put some put some as the little bit of magic dust on good yes he was like a here they feel about what they're like she was out here outside regardless of being out bad bitching so the debt though i mean i would like look how do you thought but i i wasn't like look how do you love that kid by like i literally like keep forever just don't knock it back yet that be ever listen i will tell you the arena anybody could do anything wrong i okay but company ankles angles are different i must say serena williams know what she knows what she has to do hey man i'm i'm i have nothing else like she knows when necessary have nothing else better i'm on it but actually i'm i'm ready are you guys ready will get into the women in the second i'm sorry okay so do you have anything else the section and i just wanna say a yahoo is right here to air he could be possibly percent in the second round i could weaken out sweden out there match but i apply in five yeah but a i think i think innocent of going through digital tell the guys i mean like y'all way he's played the last two weeks and you're saying that don't know i i let me see let me say this you guys are paid to y'all because your spam like see apple tv played bad in the mix doubles in horrible i'm however even the next week kito hammers and they don't know yes in death but like don't hold him to best player that he played because you guys have really of noxious expectations patients when not many of you hit a ball into the court anomaly faint talking to me he definitely hand me maybe i was that maybe i what am i gonna say they're like yeah i would also says apple but a lot of you guys take this shit way through seriously unlike you i get why in like all the other stuff i don't see none of that i and saying i have one i was very much into my everybody wants whatever like messing would have been going in about two to his player whatever right similar all i'm saying is that he's a professional tennis player right you guys are at home watching what a legal strain great band emulates next case but a we got that godawful john is ner riley helped a match goes oh five cents twentythree i'm not a weapon new weapon nepad break think ten race and super tiber yes i'll go go on forever mind yeah guy straight up because listen to what they want is for that there were like we're they they got they rigged the draw that place in the blueprints have break this won't be terrible but it's gonna last like three hours may go pill 'cause they're a bunch of a bunch of tyreek sense yeah well i mean i've had breaks be other wannabes six three ebay and it'll be a seven six in the fan thank you oh to what i defer that winters oh you're winter put him in a regular so my i'm just gonna say my semifinals clientele yahu i got a i'm my bracket 'em i have novak rail and it's already said sillage anthem this the one anthony gonna have a problem with concede just read rafer them but i got rafer in assuming you're sending me i yeah i actually have never been oh wow hold on i don't mind in front of me either but i know i have i think my first send me a joke which in it might be goku pitching shorts were oh my god is probably federer i think it's better and better and fuck i can't remember i've no idea shit is rocket about coming out of that bottom session who the hell is gonna do it you got rafa 'cause you're saying i might because i'm not i end and i have rafer looking at the session who else is coming there who anderson as if it can be saying yeah but then you have you seen anderson's regular against rafer cut on i see you soon my sammy's he's athletic novak rare to anthony anderson finalist showing some of that what about mellow back in then better as which is a risk of he'd be stuck in a major hopefully he got the newfound confidence after winning in london though that's true ladies will give into that mix a okay so do we wanna move to lakers drawn out yep all right at the top of the section is a and simona halep 'em first round it's very kind who in straightsets at the europe folk then just last year canetti actually haven't played since losing to serena williams a few rounds later no really man yeah yeah parental plus eighteen aces 'em so but then you have a holiday who split from k o and loss in hallo somewhere pilot who hasn't won a match since cincinnati mattie she has she has not won in oregon that's yeah well number one seed literally has not won a matt says even though i don't even realize like that cc play it same thing she played the montreal on cincy like final back the back and see what am i see are just like an investigator phone cautioned that be it's gonna be sloppy you playing well if you're playing her best this i mean this in some of those not playing her bed mhm that's what i think like if someone off in they hire playing well but i think someone whatsoever that man amazon has someone ever handful in maryland to west kennedy kevin get through as well canada's one bar chairman adam schiff one over my i also like a the qualifier that kennan is playing first round accoutrements over she's also pretty tough to so either way it's gonna be a tough like around girly yeah and then and then if she makes it to the third round she gave those are two aucoin corny possibly one night or i remember right now or being terrible section right there money ain't been based you gotta beat them to get this arena around done done it was hard knock on i just you know you listen to the point the point nine points endanger oliver yeah okay you know i was happy to be in this next election sim carla suarez navarro yeah yeah i like her in this section because surrender lifts gathering around really early carla thanks for doing what do you maria thank overall forgot about it we we really appreciate that stat however recent now i think she's a standstill she knows he loves yes screw it was just about to go away yeah it's cool who's afraid of you jamie i'm not worried about her but apparently people are sam i see playing better now frank well but which one you ever even all clinton from you a free me yes no oh sure why would i be using founder a little bit scared i'm worried about okay how an gang bang you do chirping that's what you're doing and i watched a no seriously like she wants she wants to matches in oakland oh my god i mean i'm stumps or she'll get up for serena you know i guess you liked those big massive but i i don't see her really being a problem area max a we have serena here versus time yeah annamaria a survey and play before but they had but i don't care if they played before i leave nothing there but you know had i did that right but you know what the wtmj see website is a m trained by so yeah yeah i know you never know it could just be a glitch you just never know 'em but i swore they play before like added i dunno i can't remember when you know i'm assuming the statistician but i don't remember that one a m wherever cuts socking mba's sanski playing in the first round advocating put cuts arts right so i definitely did to back champs you could he be maria mission ski 'em didn't beat maria well they did the man 'em 'cause i'm gonna own get through that yeah yeah i think so too at least i have ruined the fourth who is gonna to me because the surest only getting there no no you know okay i'm gonna give away that pay a definitely have missouri's out early around went to a dance contest the confirm nor deny oh y'all got bad mac right now apparently she got a oh yeah she hurt her neck oh konta oh last year saying i'm taking that state she retires who were tired of her qualities match in book with the sydney i'd say were tired of being tired of paying to retirement quality british except the lucky loser intermingle industry but you're at chase depict okay nevermind nevermind nevermind you are so right let me put this bad but again and i've seen enough who knows about her those she withdrew to she hasn't played imagine liberalism she i'm john mcquillan had a gastro intestinal thing right she would like sicker something above oh yeah she'll be all right out of the question where's the output camila i don't know who she last year that fourth rounder am i but but she being pushed over yeah i could see that let's go just one bridgman but did nothing i mean i don't i'm not looking at my brightest right but when alternate if she doesn't want any major the c c c dot net start by no more yeah apparently her serve has gotten worse window and that's the same question coding air standout cedric do camila giorgi see is what we call a bob at one thirty one percent yeah i don't miss you can't be placed of a push ball basser to get into the movies will be a bob astor i don't ever gonna push him in the first place where i had to go through them i hear oh oh okay may next that extra layer we'll soccer section yes off a she open first round versus when that who has to head the head against including washington last summer oh god damn oh wait a minute advocate listrik i'm not i'm not gonna pick a single not met naomi doesn't lose slammed personally i still picked osaka but it was just a fun thing down low but in this next thing you know that that was a tough spot for me but i'm not sure how capital is playing right now i don't know either and then she could get casual queens a safe way i'm ron hersey like actual okay so my brain the name of his name is edward i was like he he like low card we watched heartbeat some people's like while he looked like he was like she like the ball gets hit so hard which is a swing at it and i was like i i you guys call her like unapologetic going but she's like casual who me yeah that her her man we were like we like we were watching remember like it was just like someone wonder what's playing well we were like she's being stole route her like she like giving hurt in ukraine the casual acquaint areas to run some right now is the only blair watch the casual wayne ryan got beka a bigger vica that's not looking good grams yeah same as gay would have protected franken has she been out who cinnamon i dunno anyway because you're gonna lose early 'em anyway in that 'em this section is pretty madame e you guys this dilemma keys civil komo seven martin here but i dunno i just don't have much to say about that young my address you martin osaka section on euclid that he may go through who andrea i played hurt but not like okay magic kingdom is unpredictable in murders gonna murder the wanna harper up i think naomi in the section to make the quarters 'em out on the quarters i dig yes mainly osaka i did to hide in the quarter this year but that casual claim could make a move but i don't trust it says she's defending point yeah but i did i did pick sputter lena in osaka number three quarters of the section i got selena out early i think i might i think i'm gonna change it but i i just had this crazy feeling flop lets you see that that see she tends to do that yeah yeah secrets flip flop moment in madison keys hasn't played a man's all year has you know who he's no longer she she hasn't play get in the in the first round i might be mad that upset and i did i did that i think are moving around 'em in an also that simple cobas suddenly look back sent definitely fun yeah there's some good matches in there there were some key magin i agree 'em the the next quarter belongs to the three seed and defending champion caroline wozniacki 'em she opens versus event we developed in the loop by not easy out it's not but i i think should be okay cw okay yes you better be 'em yeah i'm gonna we're gonna we're gonna need her where we were here in this section convinced of a a i see okay here's the thing for me and i hate to say this now because of draws haven't closed yet but 'em petra we know patrick can you when tournaments and then going to slam into early seen her do it a lot of times and land in major yeah you never know what's gonna happen with her she's unpredictable that you know when she's gonna tree in when she's not here's the thing i don't think she has the tree for this i was looking at hit her head she got heads against everybody in this section she is like way of on everybody she will still lose a i i had i had the picker i'm sorry i that's that's right yeah yeah yeah i you know i proudly regretting that is highly probable but i had i had the do you wanna know why did she played the week before a major she was dead in that final break it down now did you watch the find out yes i saw his new cars have by far no i did not because you sound like she play the week before for a baker great okay listen go ahead but go ahead go ahead my girl found on changing the pay right now no bad in you're staying if you're talking about i think it's changed no don't say did you go out you know you won't be the lou that's what you try and i don't want i want this reverse psychology 'cause i wish i don't do that at the rec when i will give him a no no i know you're saying you're saying oh we elisabeth i say a witness list but i don't stand nobody else now okay we got the bodyguard censoring own directly leaving the cd believe it over to say we we don't bring it out no no okay oh you know what i do i have to say okay we also have a blank barred t i'm not only would i'll just what that's all about her is yeah i a i don't know summer laker is by but i don't know what to do about her at a at a slam yeah i don't see i apparently mackerel picked up the win the title put a petra metro picks heavily win win win game four outside of the arena man i i dunno i for some reason i still feel like people are give us that will inca too much like i think they need to see see marbury heart sc grind like right you fight she's like one of those like she's a fighter but like y'all giving her a lot at i have not seen anything that warrant a major loss what you see is also twenty eighty right he's got huge swings in it's cute to do that and hit the ball hard with some huge swings when you have however on it yeah they're not really we don't get a fast surface is somebody who could hit the ball is biggest she does she not gonna have all that time it's okay also she wouldn't possibly have a third round with a wrinkle in some way could be her ass in australia last year and a woman time like snow rain right now losing so i mean you know i i don't have either one of them making it super far but i definitely have sub linka out but let me find this while that's bold afterwards it is well i'm not not layers wait no longer on no shame yeah you know yeah babbling bowl yes you think finalise burton's even though it it'd be however it should be kerber it's still be covered sloan this ooh this is dr king for her since dr jack phillips i can oh wait i have some more about the dumbo section homo yeah let's keep going keep going like you so i think it's here and now down now he called her the bracket buster one capturing macaroni is here go by 'em yeah back if i ever back when i was a big mac player and so she she won't budge sample lanka assembling come around to see it's not gonna be higher though okay yeah i don't see it either way i'm on record islamic and i'm gonna come back then that part that's what we're doing here oh yeah so then we also have the doper in this section who exactly i don't know what that is but there is a possible was inaccurate over there around his neck you'd better do do here's the thing dumper leaves the head had six four but i know of wozniak's is wins against her own home on hardcourt yeah yeah so so i maria though i did not with that injury all say like that what he was saying why arthritis right is an issue west where for her women's tournament cold air somewhere little known sound like where down outside where warm ups you've outgrown australia with is he out there out there losing to some young chinese girl who had to retire 'cause she thought a cramp went up and then getting harassed but lucky here i and you know what i'm glad you brought that up because i have something to say 'em everybody was talking about oh she was so nice were going over to that girl and confronting her here's the thing okay a lot of you young ones don't remember this shit but i remember way back in the day maria playing topsy on a gold event on k garland ban ends golovin over there screaming in agony in pain after see the world where google emory leno well no it was it wasn't a it was like a woman a term for the us open i believe it was on a hard quarter another officer but senator little thing she's she's screaming in pain whereas maria sharapova on her side of the court worked doing shadow swings deride not even facing the girl not going to check in asking see what's wrong and k antioch in and say oh no that was a long time ago and she's grown she's matured since then now here's the thing she's still is hated in the locker room none of the girls like her she don't okay so that means she hasn't changed that much iran with a put all okay i'm gonna take out all right now that's all i got to say about that maybe go ahead and get that out i'm so blast on other ways that hurt her quote unquote fans don't like it dealt with some rain or block she'll never be cereno investor that that that you ain't gotta bring some rain why i gotta bring saranda into her shit like why because you got he's not afraid of that in in see not a fan of women's sports like she was that she was it was it was a pr move in with the empire meltdown demos it was 'em it what's up a bit slow holiday you'll you'll never be clear where you'll never be that girl you'll never get to like shit hoping like i wasn't hurt but like so hope like it was a moose it'd be like oh it's the same like the matter is that when her parents were talking about like the first moment that you guys had to be like oh look hershey forever at all it every avenue literally sit on for like eighteen years first time another girl the thirty five years old and that's the first all time saying look you know math looking at my phone looking sixty five yeah oh man what angry body they and right taylor balance on base you can get off the lines on her face are so weird oh my god all that army or when banks journal yeah okay anyway sloan longest taylor pounding in round one that's gonna be and then she could possibly get babbel's or on a burger in the second round so no along fine right there oh no it's not as good for the wow i i i think are danes at a place like this i think are danger around in this these early rounds in the second round again without larry's or our or is it a grant okay i paid by both the be her first tasty 'cause i don't like that lost his seat physical she is saying well i mean in in so have the loan sloan like the slam but we we've seen right down the player yeah i'm sloan like a big match play a big hitter right like chicken on harbor or like a like a right democracy played more like a so ranko a complete lie she will be out on that or bring her back a little bit weird first of all the sloan light yeah pays in see like chicken you know primaries yeah yes so i think she's looking a little a little while brown at first but he's right there one spot on 'em this is we forgot mentioned this is actually actually cover section oh she opens versus a hurricane talk 'em are this section is good for kerber man a yeah like i mean if keefer i think it looked at her and you are well you know what nobody scarborough why that kind of makes us amy's kerber isn't a good front runner which seems like the underdog she plays well received the president's budget so where's he does not play well our how how many people are picking her dosages body by passers yeah but i feel like okay i watched that man did you watch it i watched the highlights she got body by pets on purpose what she did like it was a very like i wasn't like she didn't wanna win that match because when you're playing the tournament going on c see one of the world's gonna gonna melbourne i mean i could see that point that you're bringing up because she didn't play happening right before so she's got a dead end very well may come see there should be some goes as the cb coronate ask stream of would ask like that if she did so like it was like i'm gonna get out of here in and wanna go do this i don't see that yeah i've i've i've been kerber she'll be fine i could i could see her having a little bit of trouble with beckham round three decades can get there right you might not be the end of it but then of its can't win a mattress they were fucking life these days lubeck it might not be in the mix and again i'm not a knock i think she'll be fine i do too 'em we have gergen's versus collins here collins who apparently can't play well against anyone not named venus williams because man listen girly done a damn thing should make me fucking sick we're not gonna get today when that only a cigar nah i've done it like three times on the show ready yeah anyway 'em we mentioned vectors modena vich we also have burton's and garcia in this section garcia ain't worth a damn right now what happens on her she's doing so well and then she she hit her ceiling i saw somebody on twitter saying that andy emerged coach of the number one so he can prove himself right now like when did she get the number one cause she's like twenty six and twenty seven now anyway and a serena is still onto her so 'em i don't thinks she's gonna be taken over number one she can't even beat the other girls let alone serena so anyway when is when is she getting there even if andy murray coaches and she when she when is it happening at the thirty eight on abc she how long do you have to wait we're just trying figure that out exactly anyway you got anything else in the section on who okay so who just twenty five dollars 'em jamaica victor lena dunham asia yes okay petra in kerber germany just spinelli now sapper like a burden okay hold on how many total eight to the half of the winner 'em i have i have six 'cause i have ever well i if it'll make sense if you knew who my final final is once again i'm not telling you i had i i'll tell you buy it i had had written a bird and i had eleven you think just eleven i think she way no it'll be it'll be seven five six one oh you okay yes atlantic eleven eleven it's cute yes thank you dennis okay i know that serena i can't remember my second semifinal is in the top of it might be soccer for oh yeah in weighing heavily five they'll soccer making cindy because she got from com period and then the bottom half i think i have i think i think i actually think i might have put will snacky through again kerber that belie against burton burton yeah of the top yeah they will they wasn't innkeepers is burton's in that thing i will say i turned around and i'm gonna change my jaw again because i'm still not had expressed stakes i'm gonna move it there's one thing about a osaka she is trying to be one be the fourth woman this decade to women who claim they make the quarterfinal the very next one so far the only players do that or serena as the wrinkle though yeah i knew that oh a we are we gonna forget nina no decade this decade okay yeah and the two does nothing that current players go down this way baseless being this one backed spray as some the girls will never do that job guarantee that fast though no but now yes it's very nice ostapenko until after i guess yeah wow so a cause usually mostly locally girls they win inbound lincoln way they lose within that i'm the first round and the next one they can they can go to their holiday adjust i she's strikes me as 'em i don't know like she she holds up to this narrative that she's like very nervous and everything on tour but that's not what i see when i watch it play yeah no soccer that's not see i'm not i'm not i see i see all the calmness i see all the serenity i see all the m there's there's a little bit attitude there to even though she won't admit it there's a little bit of mock outlining lewis from the absolute from a narrative the matt is actually a part of a yeah so yeah yeah i don't i dunno i just said no i don't know see somebody called her email and i listen i know that's in there i'm excluding myself from a much i'll know nothing about that he your wedding and then it wasn't too but it it applies oh okay so we have anything else to say about these draw m i just wanna say that i hope andy murray when the buster matches i learned right i flip to remove to win the title just just gives me emphatic yeah twenty seventeen so yeah no such dropped yes you know here and play lucky pregnant perry we're not put that out in the universe nomo game right now but less alexis my serbian sleep i want to i want her to i want her to enjoy dragging just enjoyed them anymore she was still like labor there but now she's kind of like except i want her to like you know bask in in a fucking bitches up i think when she really enjoyed when she fully everyone hunter percent expected herself to have the moderating so it was like not a surprise like this this is what i do this is what i'm here for now right like it that other state where it's like she just glad this debbie out here and stuff i'm like fuck that beats these bitches acis i don't i i cry with baileigh yes like that now you we want to i want to wish they didn't play this survey like i said i play next year maybe that's what i that's what i want to listen i say all my work password so surreal twenty four so it's coming lay resident i'm sad face i'd say bob path forward so i appreciate you know if i get it if i don't i know that she's not born suddenly without south that 'em ad i also i also want her to play for her i wanna play mayor and her husband when i was like oh this is only worth to enjoy the ruthless this to enjoy the effort lays this who enjoy the dragon like girls fuck them and i'm bradley i hope you guys already i yes i am i am i am reading this is the only time ever and it will be the only time ever that i am excited to see margaret court turkey neck that's exactly exactly turkey neck why did but i know that yeah i'm i'm gonna be so glad to see her i in court while back i heard a cry when it'd be like oh no my rector like i wanna be so sad about it i wanna see see be the the west up in purse look on her face as she watches serena jamaica williams raising up that big ass cup again yeah no i want her to see the koala in it i want people to find ways i don't know she's on social media anywhere else say but i want people to find ways to tagger i added hurts had a very clear moaning and the photo shoot after with the olympics in the guy i do i just i'm so so i want i want her who because we're finding is like she's already prepared for it but i also feel like senate like she doesn't like it hasn't happened yet but i see like oh so we're gonna pass me i want a pass her in the most outrageous shift for absolutely i want it to be disrespectful so this is i wanna see roads clear i want it to be but also what it'd be like quaintly i wouldn't be majestic an i want it could be a real harry that's it next case i have nothing else to say about the draw 'cause that's it right there that so yeah we in the bible is i am so not telling you know i'm just i'm entitled neither out so well you know when i saw that might tell you already know the answer either hard burt you're you're too okay my dick what next 'em do we wanna move on to be a power ranking official yeah atp cc side who wants to go first hour that never mind i'll go first okay okay a burst i got i have joke of it even though he lost in the semi of dough how oh i still think he was he walks into this tournament whipped cream biggest chance the most confidence to to walk away with a championship a second i have anderson that can't be right here that i look i must have been tripping and then a seminar because he just won a what what did he just went sydney it may be just once they need an m you know he's going going into his home slam i think he'll be riding pretty high end then i had a w before don't have anybody for five because fuck these this guy like anthony here you go okay so my five was based on like how i feel that the girls will stay in melbourne so so okay five i pick whereas i picked him because i feel like it's about time that he is supposed to make it if not win a major but like make it very deep in my major 'em for i pig roberta sees the go see one though high end i feel like he asked one of those like widow annoying defensive game that can you know trouble a lot of guys which including the guy after number one s m three i pick fillets makes the final when i so it was he playing well nobody hits the ball harder ad nobody none of friday but like he's very focused where he plays a prince who as far as like well that's a no no three whatever anyway i think say it i don't know what my number is i'm stuck a but i think he played very well hopman cup i thought it was worth but he did that because he got the mets living kind of like we have to see him play end team played very well in that a number one i guess i think novak even though he lost them assemblies of dough hot like debates is ruthless own hardcourt i think that in best of five like it's very difficult to be helping everybody in my other slash well known whatever was for can be murray i really even though i picked him lose in the first round like i really want him to do very well in i hope that fight like less fourth like him playing the sport and like you're body recognizes whatever like i hope that he gets to in his crew on his car but i also hope that he gets to a head of the sport i hope the he gets to take the sport for as the seven days as a male player as a person who kinda recognizes his words the sport i really hope andy murray gets to make changes as far as his play is played in i'm gonna chairs these you know last moments that i guess i'll watch him you know we really had no way a lot of people on the court man you know i'm i'm i'm rooting for him and i want him to do very well both of my nice list you federal picking is actually really good i completely forgot about hot mic up completely forgot about perhaps 'em from my i have novak at number one he's lost his last three events and i do not care are i mean i don't know who's been in a definitely not anybody in this job so maybe i wanna pick somebody from a mixed doubles jaw or something because not anybody in this one 'em number two i have very of 'em that's just based off you know winning in london at the end of last year mostly a plate of chaos hartman cop also they they made the final right so i mean he must have done something right at some point a even as well it's terribly 'em number three i have nisshin corey because he just went on event and that's literally the only a number four i have them in arkansas he just one of the event in band number five i have roger because first of all he's defending champion and he knows how to defend 'em and also like he did play really well and so dead yeah i was like oh by f m singles and doubles right mixed doubles he was fantastic wbz sign who younger who were part of me that was my duty okay all those me okay okay i have okay so my wc i have seven but i'm not black unless there that's a that's illegal so we go play but i i do five the five okay i do five yeah yeah that's okay number five i have courage is the reason i have just because because it's very difficult to defend the title of the girls don't normally do that in she did it pretty easily pretty effortlessly overhead if you add onto what she did last year on tour why she had a pretty decent year so i defer five sauce for i have a bit of a i wasn't gonna take her and so my five because she see no link but you know once you play while she could be anybody on tour mind is you know that one 'em but three i pick kerber for how she played their hotline cup it was very easy very like car britain have the have the box for her games that'd be cool seen play the hot tub and so if that's if it's very he's going to be some confidence is like i know how to do this i'm not afraid this game in like might have to do the most you know to win a title who i wanna play fable lanka because watching her matches incheon then it was it was very brief small it was very it was very i'm wanna fuck these girls up in so i really was a priest about this young girl who kinda like she she has it in a sense that see no one needs to be done the kind of get the job done as she has it in a sense so like she she moves different young girls not younger now somebody when match if she moves savannah titles number one i think serena because who who else is available big i'm i'm going to take serena williams always and forever also because they won't let me say this i had a couple of our missions recover in bharti bharti has a game trouble a bunch of people in politico but when britain then even though i'm not as hard pressed to pay carson wentz out because she's one of those girls who wins titles but i've been defined majors 'em and so those are my side would surrender as one yeah all right yes go ahead me yeah okay i look i know who's going that a my my number one is explicable because she won brisbane and i feel like she i feel like she'll she'll take a lot for matt going into melbourne a to establish linka a for basically all the same reason vance and he said petra is shooting but that's number three even though she looked like the walking dead in that final four the whole tournament she was playing some body ran her racket but like when did i send me an idol i see what i see five indian of four is kerber hers mainly because remember to an also also i think she'll 'em so carry a lot of confidence in a so fairly confident in melbourne based off a wish she'd been don't even though she got she got lambasting by petra but i don't think that'll bother her in five is osaka because raining usa open champion in i feel like she's pretty confident right now i'm on my patients are 'em i have a bit of a one time is based on current form okay yeah that's that's what it is a i have serena add to a i don't care that she hasn't actually played a you know a like a tour tournament since the us open i don't care she will get a hammock up and but great yeah that that that she's three number three i have linka just based on perform again number four hours later became she one championship i can't think of anybody go 'em in then then she knew she just get harassed look i wouldn't know a lot of like just like that that may be pregnant women like that gruden right right but i think she's got her is be bus the wrinkle like i dunno where maybe see they look like they don't know committed to this but little celebrity but of course i have no idea sense when you buy one of those she was yes she did lose i remember that i just don't know where it was hey y'all give her so much but that's not me a my number five is osaka because she lost the controversy controversy yeah seven five seven six loss to the la lakers as i was like oh y'all got humiliated like i can't i cannot take her stomach defined the maids i cannot because she i'll take her like a five or seven year old quarter as you're losing a second row so for my bracket am i saying between in l a lender pick that i respect the decision a do we have any say and now i'm just looking forward to the happy slam hope with a good win for the queen yes and a man every everything else everything else is just noise room you guys gonna wake up the mantra for serena well we don't care you know what's funny like i worked my job like i work from three pm to what i am so like when i got work is like getting ready i kinda like last year with what happened like kind of getting ready for like okay watch the might matches but then i wake up and make them be like you should have gone to bed so i'm not jim effort last that will go for the man i'm not waking up with a name like watch what i like about like if it's a final hour guilford the primal but like i've warned us please let me hear rats like if serena playing i'm gonna stay up but like if surrender or venus enough like i'm not going to give them anything i really hope that i hope that like who you know enjoy split slumber but i love i love watching this is like we start with a major so it's not like i have the kind of like we're like with basketball i ease myself into the sport like christmas day i you myself let's say this is like you got to eat right if you did it why we need to be ready as so i get excited about you know watching that i'm excited to play with you guys you guys and you know hopefully she does what needs to be done ally when i'm talking about nobody's mama well that's what we hope yeah all right so before we go we encourage you to listen rate and subscribe to our podcast and i tunes apple podcast google play or spotify modify also fulford follow us on twitter at hold you ponytails my my personal twitter is that he said he baby what i meant i know i am at briley asked me like brilliant and anthony combined yeah all right so a thank you for listening and we'll see you next time we need in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in

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Big Brother Canada 7 | May 17 | Winner Dane Rupert

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Big Brother Canada 7 | May 17 | Winner Dane Rupert

"The. Hello, everyone and welcome to rob has a podcast. I'm heroes turnoff, strong and today. I'm here to talk to the winter brother candidates, seven oh boy. It's Dane and talk Dane all about his win. His whole game across the season should be a lot of fun very much looking forward to this. I mean, we were just talking about this on the round table that we did to wrap up the season that we do feel like Dane, is the best big brother, Canada winter, we have seen, and it's very exciting for me when I watched the show for. So they're very excited to talk Dane about his win here. Hey, dane. What's up? How's it going? They're going good man. How're you doing very well? Very excited to talk to you here. It's been it's been about a week now sincere win. What's life been like all man? It's been. It's been fun down in quota, heroines supported me in a couple of drinks here and there, so fine. Fine. But yet still have really shocking miss that house. Yeah, I can imagine. You're doing the same thing for seventy days. And then all of a sudden it's like packing rural. Yeah, I haven't watched any episodes yet, but I'd already miss that house, and I miss the house. Yes care. You are you looking forward to the episodes. Yeah. I've heard some some Chit chatter bottom by remember that. I you know, I lived I lived experience and all the relationships and all the feelings were real. So in all m excited but nervous at the same time. Yeah. I mean I can tell you that at the very least in comparison to other big brother candidate seasons. I do feel like the episodes from your season were pretty Representative of what of what was actually happening. And maybe you won't feel that way, having lived it, but in comparison to other seasons where the episodes were maybe an entirely different story sometimes. It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad not here. And I heard job. So excited to us. But I mean has has it sunk in yet, the you, you are the winner of the show, haw, really man. It's like I said the dream come true, but never never thought of that actually pulled off. But I'm sure once start watching bit more. I'll probably sink in a little bit more. His heart. It's hard to grasp. It's hard to graphic arts. Let's let's talk about the game. Before before the started. Right. What, what? What even made you know, you've been washing for longtime, what was it that made you apply? The shop. I know I always wanted to apply his wanted to be on the show just were gone away. I always worked on the road and never sent in a video in badges. So happened that an open call is happening in Colona in Cologne at the time and. Actually cocoa is the one that made me go in addition. And look what happened. Yeah. I know I'm excited that I actually stepped outside covers own and gave her a go now you I remember watching your interview with and thinking that, like, I'm not sure how this is going. But by the end of it, it seemed like you'd really want her over. I remember her saying that you were actually her favorite interview. So I was I was I was impressed by that. I knew that you knew the game. Really? Well, so I like that. And also, it seemed like you're going to be underestimated. It seemed like that was a big component to your game going in Zak Zaky at all. I just wanna play that dummy, dummy honky John card for a long time Noyon on not really helped. And then actually getting interviewed by I don't know how she would feel about me. But like you said by the end of it, I wonder over she's agreed lady, and, you know, we had some fun after an alibi. Everything worked out for my for the best. Yes, yes. I can also tell you that I draft to do on my draft team. So you want me the season. The support. So week one you go into the house. You give Adam the fist-bump you. You make the pretty boys are started you bond with Anthony what will what was going on in that first week? Hectic, man, I it's hard to really believe that we're in the house, and then all trying to adapt to that. And also play the game out the bat. Meeting, Adam connected, Reddaway to got one second walking that house and knew that, you know, me and Henry to work together went downstairs talk to the pantry. And then we kind of just cut mentioning wanted to more guys in the alliance and I agree that was kind of my plan as well. But never thought it would be, you know, Mark anathema walking down that and what happened. There was a beautiful thing. I think we created something, something that will be remembered forever. And. Olatunji guys can down without them pretty boys. We were dominant. And I'm happy that option week, one other than that. Yeah. We were just trying to get you know, settled in trying to get your toes. What I knew I expand my social game a little bit more than the pretty boy. So all I kinda made a conscious effort to go and talk to everyone and try to connect on some kind of level of personal on with everyone. Vine some similarities I'm some experience that we might share that were similar. So it was fun has really fun. Yeah. This was Damian. I talked to Adam about this Damian was voted to go into the house early and watch everybody come into the house, and he ends up coming in with the with the last group. And in many ways that was actually a major disservice to him because had he come in at a. In earlier group, he probably would have been in addition to the pretty boys, which would have been much better for his game. Yeah. We, we kinda talked about that. We're like this even in the house off Damien walked in before it all couple guys or whoever you could have been part of it. Candidate you kinda gave them an advantage. But seem a little bit of a disadvantage. But, you know, I tried my best to keep them along pretty as long as we could. And I love that guy's cheese. He's a solid dude. So he kinda got up played off the bat. A little a little worse for that pretty Roy's. But, you know, we all liked him and he came top top five or more. So did you ever get the sense from him that he knew more than he was letting on? I mean he did see that initial conversation with you. Endanger member, a lot of people watching the show at the start were like. Oh, wow. Right. Right. From the get-go. These guys are gonna get found out, but then nothing really came of it the ad. No. It makes more says now that we saw that throughout the season. The was really Jenny early close to me in. Adam, I, I know why getting with me, but not sure out of. And then now watching that clip makes a little bit more sense me. I'm almost actually I made some kind of deal with them to top three by them. Didn't work out, but I even. The played his car battery either a God in the pretty boy group or be broke it up right away. So I'm grateful that he didn't. So you said you were you're really trying to go outside of the pretty boys. Make sure your social game was better than theirs. Who, who were you really bonding with the Esty was one person? Who are you really connecting with I there? Yeah. By DEA was to comic sidelines and that happened to with KiKi Essien. Damian recalled call the birds Columbia lions actually had a lot of fun with those three people. We connect on the personal level, we talked again with each other. So that was good. But expanded relationships pretty much everyone me and momma k got along very well. Eddie. Oh, call daddy to expand with everyone even Laura Laura along very while two week one. As part of the game you got to make people fall in love with you. I mean, this mile smiles on our to make make you. So the idea to get online says, my did she do sidelines? And then after that, just really expand my social relations with everyone. Yeah, this seems to be the start of your relationship with Sam. And by that, I mean, wanting her out. It seemed it seemed like I don't know exactly what's, what's spark did. But it seemed like maybe it was it was how close she was with Adam that first week how much influence she had over him when it came to Laura in Laura, being targeted is that is that right? Read obsolete. No Sam is I love. Sam means go along very well. However, I saw how can g show Adam, she's one of the most powerful houseguests in the game even when she did leave Adamowicz talking about her in did everything for Sam. So once I kinda got hint that she was pretty much controlling Adam. Adam run. Everyone's asking me about, like why don't you bring? Adam, honestly me now connected very closely. However, I felt number two Sam for forty one days. And with number one, Adam, and then as soon as she left, I was number one in, you know, a lot love Adam, but Sam with sounds beautiful. She's gorgeous funny. So I can see why he did it. But that's why I wanted her out right away. Nothing personal just games. She she dangerous you smart. And she can control the, the biggest copies and the game. So we gotta get going choosing. Did you the reason the pretty wise, might bring? Like how, how excited were you when, when Adam came to right away about the, the idea for the pretty boys? I mean obviously you're a fan of the show as well. So you, you knew about the brigade. And how successful was in. I'm sure this was a part of what you, you would want going in as well to have somebody that, you know, it seems like this is working perfectly. But at the same time, it might have been a little scary, you know, somebody approaching that quickly was it or did you feel like this is right? Yeah. It's always cash. Gary, all I don't know if you can trust them off of that. But I felt goodbye for Adam we talked how fans we were we did talk about the brigade. That was my plan if I couldn't win or whatnot. I just wanted to leave my legacy behind and somehow someway, I knew that if we did this. Pretty Roy's would be talked for a while out for the season ended, and we did a great job came into me did that we kind of filter around with Anthony Mark, and then we're standing in the kitchen and all the houseguests legally a boy. And we looked at each other. Like, what are you doing? Why is creating this? You know, you did this to yourself. And then after that comment we went into the pantry and then kind of just did the pomp. And so. It's all over for them after that. I felt really bad about. I mean they did it to himself. Did you ever have any reservations about the name pretty boys? Oh, yeah. Wasn't my. Wasn't my. Krisher Anthony kind of game without one I'm on, I'm not entirely. Sure. Kind of forget, kind of blocked out, whatever. Definitely tried to rename it as many times, I possibly after's pretty boys and it caught on the Gaylard every run as all right. Well heading into two week to you, you win the next HOA JR. You made a deal with Eddie during the competition, and you liked Eddie anyways. He didn't wanna put him up anyway. Pretty quickly. This is when the feeds came on. So the now, now I know what's happening pretty quickly Kaelin approach to wanting you to make make big shot at Adam or Sam. And of course you were like, oh, it'd be Sam. Of course, if we did make such a shot. And so you, you were pretty quickly considering this idea of maybe maybe we'll take this shot at Sam here in week two. Yeah, I know I thought about it. However, I wanna put her up right away to get out of that. I mean so the back door idea was always a possibility, but I'm. You know, everyone always was screaming on towards me. We gotta get Adam. We gotta get out of mo- for forty one days. Never really hard at times. Because had her focus and target off atom onto Sam. I said, I know Adams on dangerous more dangerous one. And they, they believed it, okay bye week to obviously wanna be age age early on. But I wanna see picture my dad, obviously, and to get that out of the way, get all the emotions out of the way and then. All being fan, sitting on the couch putting people up on a block. It's pretty easy. But once in the game and you kind of develop relationships, there was tough putting care MAC. Yup. But the whole plan was Mackey to win the POV. And then me back there Sam. So this is this is, you know, for little while when we were thinking about your game and the game of, of the pretty boys, we were really of the opinion that, that going after Sam this early was was maybe mistake, because she was such a huge distraction and target that was really benefiting the pretty boys, do you think that if you had succeeded in taking out that, that maybe would have been a mystic. Yeah. For sure that we were always thinking about that, too. Anthony, I really want Sam on. However, after at one, the POV kinda almost like a blessing disguise, we re re reshifted, our focus stand still. Here always be salmon. Adam being biggest targets can always get Sam out for Adam, so me Anansie kinda talked about why don't we just keeps out as long as possible, and then take the shot at her at the right time? And going at Sam that onto my pissed off at them. You never know with him you were on sleeve. So, you know, like I said at all the cards up our, we're supposed to everywhere. Don't. Hedera Anthony, having conversations that was during your second nature, wage that Anthony had the that conversation. He had the Pitney hallway is maybe soon as good for us when we should get Chelsea. Chelsea also screaming at a lot of people were screaming our names, so citizens other name. Yeah. This is. At this point in the game it weeks you kike SD. We're already like, Dane. He's, he's playing both sides. But that's fine. Because he likes us playing for us. They're saying. Driller awesome. But yeah, I don't know. They, they fully believe that I was laurel. Tim. I was but I again are going ninety nine percent world to them. Everything was the pretty boys. But key ready smart player? I give him props. She she found out right away. We kind of discussed after the season is over. All she got the short end of the stick there. But as the her always wanna me, and then they never told me what the young. I got a good feeling. You know this game all the wedding, but you still need to end some calms and without me with without me. They had no one winning for them. So the kind of had to keep me close as well. I love I love KiKi. I love both of them. I think they're both great. But. I don't know how how, you know, up on the knowledge she was in the house. I think maybe a little bit of hindsight. That's and yeah. Yeah. So so that Kira and Mackey end up staying on the block. This is when it really looks like your could go home here. But as I put it in, in my season, recaps machi- shove, as many feet into his mouth as possible. Telling you that he would put you on the block. So he would go after Adam ST, eventually got involved. And this was where SD kind of shined in certain areas, where she was like, no Mackey. You say this. Don't say that don't doing. She got Mackey to say the right things like she's literally like say this today and save is to Anthony. And then he was okay. I'm going to all go after Sam. Yes. Yes. Thank you. But then he says he's going to put Anthony on the blog and he tells Anthony, this, and that finally is going to be the, the nail in his coffin. We, we had a fun time talking about machi-. Yeah. He's a great guy, but the lack of knowledge in the game really didn't help them there. Honestly I shine if by the end there. But, you know, he said my name right to my face at Anthony's space said Adams aim to his face three out of four. Pretty boys, I still fighting for him. But you know, when three of the guy they're voting him L, and I had tiebreaker vote. I was like, well, I'm not gonna go games my alliance week too. So you know I had the knew what had to do but still trying to play for him. But he's a great guy with a lack of knowledge and the game really didn't help them. There wasn't for help. But I'm sure he would have done some more student Commons. And this is right. Right right away. You're breaking the tie on your H wage, where you had given him your word you'd sworn to him that you would keep him in the game. And you break it in front of everyone in a split house. Are your allies? All three of year side allies are voting from this day, you have Kaelin, who is trying to flip that vote. Eddie is on that vote like you all people, you have good relationships with you break the tie you break your word against him. It's like wow. This is a really dangerous move. And yet you got away with it. I don't know. Man. Yeah. I thought what goes you what you need to do week, one, this really developed relationships 'cause I got no bladder hands after break in pretty much letting the house up. Navy's lack of knowledge of the game as well. You know David has watched two seasons. Espinosa game. But I don't know how many watch but. All kinda usually words and all this lucky that Chelsea, Chelsea bird one the next day age, because at that time, I've wanted with them, and maybe kind of use that to my valuable. Yes. And Mark did try to three under the bus a little bit. Yes. He out. I love marquees. He's my boy, but some something's gotta, you know, take ownership for, and I kinda gave them all a word of my opinion. I fought you'll Mark, you gotta stop up man. You can't all the blame on me here by the season so realizing that he doesn't like taking full responsibility of what he does. He has something that I did week by week that. I did like a little status updates. So it might be fun to see how accurate these were. I said that at this point in the game week three nobody would have targeted you if they wanna h h I feel, I felt like nobody would have targeted you, you were pretty boys. The final two Anthony. SD KiKi Damian, you're still good relationships with Kaelin, Eddie Chelsea, and Sam, I felt like you're mostly neutral, with Kierra and Corey, I know that when Cory came into the house, you're very skeptical. Olympic athlete. Secret agents. Yeah, I had a lot of things I. Under neutral, much, I ruin so yeah. Even if they wanted a shot at me, I felt like I always had the number that's why no one ever could shot it. And yes and you were still targeting Sam at this point. So Chelsea does win does on this age wage. Adam lets you know, hey you're good. Don't worry about I've got Chelsea. She thinks she thinks we're numbers for her, but she's really numbers for us. So this is one KiKi ST, also let you know that they don't trust Mark anymore. They were initially working with Mark a little bit with you. But. Super sketchy. They don't trust him. Yeah. No, they, you know, Mark everybody talked to the girls. He'd always looked down and play the victim card, and would never take ownership of what he said. So ki ki ki either real, girl, she's, she likes real people. And she'd always tell me she's not real. He. He's a little bit of a he's a little bit of rain at times. And I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I shot mardi law. They cared about then, you know, when Dave enrolling in the picture, cues English is do this. Okay. Whatever Mark, you're out. I didn't tell you some of the best moments of the season, from the feeds are the very long KiKi and Mark one on one conversations if you if you ever have any interest in watching clips from the feeds, I recommend the Mckee, Mark. I bet there yet, he keyed, then hold she's on her mind. And I can't wait until those. They had a funny wearily. Interesting to say the least. Now we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back and we're back. So let's get back to the show. Eddie claimed he didn't he didn't understand what was happening with the vote. That was his excuse. There. That I thought that was very funny. All I told them we're going back, yo he said, okay. He told Anthony. I'm Joe and all I didn't I didn't understand. I thought I thought we meant the other thing. Yeah. Here's trying to play that card up that he's a smart intelligent, man. And when I heard what this was this was the beginning of the end for Eddie, making that decision to, to vote for Macura stay unfortunately hot. Yeah, I tried to keep him saying, as long care. But after that, and then I heard you also saying my name after that as well. So. Got it all. God and go. So this is when Adam is spending a lot of time with Chelsea and Sam and Kira. Because they're in power. He's making sure that the guys are safe, and then Sam and Chelsea, and curious start talking to Adam belt, like, hey, you know, Dane, is going to turn on you, eventually this guy, he's smart. He's he can beat you in competitions dislike not, not yet, but eventually and Adam would just have this big smile on his face. Like. Good. I'm can't hide his emotion allows us where on his sleeve, and that's what I appreciate about him. The most he's a great guy kept telling me I'm like a bad poker man. Catch onto that, but they never did. But I know that we he you know, I was a great thing pretty was, we have the solid four and then we all branched out, you know, Anthony Corey atom of that time with those three individuals Chelsea Sammy Kierra not so much care about, you know, they're trying to work together me with SE KiKi Damian. And then, you know, Mark was this with everyone at the time, you know, with KiKi bit with all the shooting. He was all over the place, but why they're involving danger. Because read it such a good job of branching out as well. Yes. And you were doing a lot of really great work with. Kiki ST Mckee ends up on the block, obviously here. And you were like making sure that. They were staying mad at Chelsea in Sam no matter what Chelsea and Sam tried to do to bond with KiKi and ST. Hey, you know, we're, we're gonna use veto on you. Don't go after us and you'd be like no you still to go after them. You can't put you up like gonna trust them, right? You always kept them very laser focused. Why was Keyes a smart player too? I mean just to make sure that she didn't lose focus, you know, I don't want her to target atom or around the knee or myself even so trying to keep the focus on Chelsea, and SAM's mush, it possibly could there's hard because again, I room screaming salmon Adam's name. But. Somehow someway, they believe me that Sam bigger Jarvis and stuff how Chelsea hurry. And then on them, so them like, yeah, we would love to work with atom. We just gotta get him. They would themselves like are we crazy? Do we trust Adam? I think we do. We wanna work that. This is one also. So you're making sure that there is still targeting Sam and Chelsea, but you're telling Adam because Adam told you that Sam and Chelsea are starting to tell him that you might go after him. Eventually, you're telling Adam that KiKi they want Damien and Atty gone. They want yak. Again. Adam, you can't I I can't tell much as possible, but you don't know with him because he's a big guy in Warsaw a gun. He knows that can say whatever you want. So at time the house like I tell this, and you tell the whole house. So, you know, I very asked lacked the with what I told out it worked because he went to Chelsea and salmon said on Dan Dane. Kiki SE. They're going after gaming and Atty, they brought you in and you pitch to them. You're like, hey, man. They're going after Damon, and Eddie. This is what we wanna do. You started talking about, like final nine alliances and all of a sudden they were not talking about you anymore. It was you worked very well. He added that when we're talking about the final eight. Final nine lines. Is they watch this show that weight number about, we'll roll that so. This is when Anthony started to worry about KiKi nasty us. Are they gonna form all women alliance? So they don't worry I got this. Yeah. No one believe me out close Munashe. She were key. He has on. I'm not saying that can control them, but they very they've valued, my opinion law and pretty much whatever is said to them. They would take it in stride and really think about it. So Anthony didn't believe I had such a pay relation with them. So, but no, I mean, you know, again me. Kiki SEM Damian. Pretty boys harm sound loyalty to them. They're great people. But. Yeah. It was it was interesting because like shortly after you said that to Anthony KiKi nasty had a conversation. We just love Dame so much. We wanna target. Chelsea and Sam. They're the worst sensu hitting the point that you just made. So. This is when a bunch of drama, happened with Kaelin. Where there is a potential vote flip and Adam ran to Chelsea and Sam and, and Anthony, Anthony were annoyed about this Siri wanted to make sure you separated. Adam from Sam. You. And this is really when I think it started to become obvious that you were playing the middle within the pretty boys, where with Anthony, you'd be like off Sam. We gotta get Sam out. She she's the worst yet. We gotta make this happen. And then you go to Adam and be like, yeah, man. Anthony, he really doesn't like Sammy's. He wants to get Sam. I'm sorry, that he's so mean about it. We do have to get them. But like I'm on your side too. And so that, that, that really like when I was looking at your game, it really felt like one of the key factors of your games that you always tried to play the middle in every situation that you were in, you never pushed too hard. And there are a lot of situations between you and Anthony where Anthony pushed very hard and he'd, he'd get his way. But just because he got his way doesn't mean that he won the game at the end of the day because you would you would give in sometimes, but sometimes that's that's a little bit better for your game. I think exactly. I know you gotta sometimes soccer pride and swallow that I know watching many season that he really pushed for something. The target gets on your back and on would push one thing Anthony push one thing I just sit in the middle. A lot of this led L do get out and. You know, I felt like I was in the middle thought lake both Adam or Anthony, and Mark will always come for me. Come to me, try to make all lines cohesive unit at all times. I just playing hockey's all my life and being capped in, you know, not everyone's gonna get along with each other by the end of the day were team. And you know, we'll make it through somehow and like you said, anti really wanna Samo I'd it as all. But you gotta remember that Adam would get really emotional. So, you know, you gotta kinda smooth that one over with that. But. It was fun playing both sides of the pretty boys, you know, they never caught onto and for that. This is also the week where Sam ended up overhearing a conversation between you and Adam after the big Kaelin meeting where she revealed that she was actually forty two and I love your reasoning there. Nobody nobody that young can cook. Dame. How come young people can't cook? Well, what, what is up with this? I'm I don't know what else but I skipped addition. Or, you know, a lot of finger. You know, I I go out to eat a lot, but yeah, when she said, what? Yeah. Nine years old could all these meals, whatever I'll believe it, but I didn't know said, that's gotta be a joke, but definitely love mama. Definitely lover food. I can't pull me my favorite part was as soon as the feeds turned on. We were all waiting to see people talk about Kaelin and how she wasn't twenty nine and one of the first things that we saw on the feeds was there's no way. She's twenty nine and we're like, oh, wow. Right away people talking about. They are actually talking about Corey. Bad for Corey, you know, I knew she was twenty nine years old. But. You know. Severed. I see that people think you're actually you're Asian, a lot older than you are. But and I knew when I heard that remember the Corey is gonna lose her conversation with that. He was y'all. I feel bad but it was funny. Eddie, what are you doing, man? You know, I think maybe that was a little bit of a, you know, language thing because I don't think realize that's very root thing to bring up. And I think in fairness to court, I don't think that any speculation would have happened if not for Kaelin and Kaelin saying that she was that exact age as well. So it was like, really, really twenty nine just like Kaelin like I think that. That really helped make people little more suspicious. But. Anyway. So after the Kaelin house meeting thing you're talking about him down because he's kind of freaking out about it and Sam over hears. And she didn't over here a lot. She just kind of like overheard. The tone of the conversation. She heard her name a lot, and it got her thinking she goes to, to Kira and Chelsea, and they start talking about, like, wait a minute. If there were if they're secretly, working together, they'd be working with Anthony, too. What could they have like at the start of the game like come together and made this alliance? Get close to women be playing all sides of the house. No. Oh my God, we're being played by these guys Chelsea in particular, like, oh, my we need to we need to do something about this. This is ridiculous. And it was this point in the game. Like, all right. Ring the bell pretty boys. They're exposed. It's over. They're still still gonna competitions. They still got allies but they're not going to run the house like they did before the secrets out. We really like our here it is, is it? Yeah. I'll see. Renat snooty and. Now hearing everyone talk about the episodes. They were with each other a lot, we didn't think so in the house. It's hard to meet up in the house with us, so many helps guests and some rooms always locked, but yeah, I told me that during the final weeks, the house that Sam was the one that were heard me talk, and I didn't believe it. But now through the grapevine hearing everyone talk about him, like, jeez, that could have been very bad that could have been the end of the pretty good, but again, people found out about it, and they, you know, really didn't do much about it. One thing that cure talked about is they said that, you know, they, they would catch you guys having morning meetings. Like every morning. I was like that didn't happen, like I don't know what. We're we. That's why we like you're vying moat. The Sam thing. They told me and Adam they would catch us in the archive room every morning, and I was literally, we've done that Weiss and Anthony does not go in that room ever. So I don't know what you're smoking airman. But so they really really seem like they're catching on. But they decided we need to approach KiKi nasty about this. We need to get the women together, we need to do something. But then they decided you know what? No, we need to wait until we find out who's h next, and hopefully, we can do something about it at that point. And really then by the next morning. Chelsea was already starting to doubt herself. She really was having a hard time believing that you guys were smart enough to have done that she was like, there's no that there's no way they played us that. Well, they're not that smarter than us like she was like that would require so much like to go in right away, and to trust each other with, like playing the Gaelic do. No, I don't know way. I don't think so. And so they really started to back down from that position. And they did end up approaching SDN KiKi, as you know about this. But not what is much conviction as they probably should have. And definitely not in the right method. Because it was more like, hey, I think the guys are working the other don't you think we should work together instead of like, oh my God with Sam overheard and. You know how how essentially these things break like big brother fifteen when the moving company broke up. That was because people are like, oh my God. We just discovered this thing we need to do something about it. But Chelsea and salmon, and incur-. Unfortunately did not have the right approach here to, to do to do the right thing to break up the pretty. No. I I'm, I'm happy that they didn't honestly right away as the poor girl. She comes running to me, and told me, although, yes, you, you issue didn't even come running to because what happened is that you spotted it St. was kind of, like after after she was told she was like looking a little off. And you're like, hey, something wrong? She's like, no, no. What what's what's going on in you Jude out of her immediately? Knew really relief squashed it as soon as you could. Yeah. No. She at me and her again, we connected on a personal level. So you know, we can read each other pretty easily. And she didn't talk to me all day. She kept, you know, one wording as for me case on the and I had a little bit of fear in that, you know, she might have bought something on so put on that danger and just reinsure. That nothing was hap-. Yes. Yes, you're also over the course of the week, making sure that they were actually against Eddie that mixture, he, they knew he couldn't be trusted as he happens to say, mono my name if you might do that does obviously can't be trusted. And then Kaelin is is in evicted. And then we do. To buzzkill buzz. Potentially one of the more dangerous positions for you in the game, we felt like if Sam or Kierra won this competition that things could be in a tricky spot because they would have power. They would then approach SDN KiKi again with this idea like the guys are working together. Also, I'll I felt like if they the problem was they didn't trust Damien. They thought Damien might be a part of it. They didn't realize Mark was a part of it. Yeah, Irv ahead. And they thought Daming might be. But I felt like if they approach Damian along with KiKi nasty. They might get somewhere, especially if they have power because, now you know, it's in their interest to play long that Damian might go. Oh, yeah. You know, I did see Ataman team talking. And with Damian support I felt like they could maybe get KiKi nasty onboard. But, but ultimately you end up beating Sam and I did. I did ask Sam if she felt if she would have targeted you if she had one this H wage, and she said, no, she felt good about you at that time. So she would have gone Alger Anthony, Anthony would have been the target of the pretty Baha. Yeah. Read before that competition me out of Sam kind of. Said, hey like you guys are winning power. So you keep me save on keep you. Save read for the comp. We made a little bit of a pack that if I wanted to go out you're out or Sam Sam wants you wanna go after me, and ask the, so I actually didn't wanna win that buzzkill at all my plow, the standard, as long as possible and. See who would be the final to your final three. I soon as Damian lost Sam. To the top four there in Corey about, as well is down on me and Sam like looking at Anthony, I'm smiling, you know, I don't wanna win, but they don't want Sam how control. So I thought of that moment of that, well, getting winless second Asia age, you know, luckily that I hit the buzzer before her, but again, it wasn't my playbook to in that h wage, but I just wanted to see how far you go and see who would be never. Meaning couple of stages and wants to mean sounds like now I gotta wear. Okay. It worked out. Yeah. We were actually doing a podcast live at the time that the finished. And I had a big reaction where I was like whole. So, so you win. You had promised them that you wouldn't put her up. So your plan was once again, the back door was in infla-, cure, am Chelsea are gonna go up and you promised, Adam, you promise them, you're not going up on the Bligh. I promise not even back door and you've made it a little bit more of like a formal deal with Sam after the fact, like, hey, if I keep you safe, you'll keep me safe. Right. But this is, this is Anthony starting to feel like you know what? Maybe maybe I would rather have Chelsea go. Maybe Sam is good for us. And, and part part of that is because Chelsea had been talking about Anthony because Kira Kira was the one that started to talk to Chelsea about. Hey, I feel like because basically would happen was Anthony. Talk to cure a trying to turn cure against Adam, and that sketched out and cure. It was like I don't wise. Anthony China termi against Adam. Do you think Anthony's playing the mentor role China manipulate us? And Chelsea was like I don't think so. I feel good with Anthony. But wait a minute. I wonder if everyone feels good with Anthony, and then they started to doubt him, and then Chelsea, approached Adam with that suspicion. And Adam, of course brought that to Anthony in that was that was the end of that. Shoo shoe screaming all our name. So I mean yeah. And at that point, we were like, oh, this could be it for Anthony, his manipulate, he's, he's been caught. But as we talked just last night, like people who doubt Anthony's manipulation ability Kira is the one that supposedly caught him that early on. And when you look at who he was influential with I think, can tell you know, he guys he's a break individual. He's ready deligent. He's very good. Was words. That was my goal to find ratted. I, I was very, very wise words. And man, I don't think there's anyone better than Anthony Douglas man. He in one minute, he can persuade to do anything you wanted. So but yeah, Chelsea said his name. Chelsea also enhance said mining. So again, that was kind of a rule from myth. You said more than one name with three boys. Yes. This is also. So you actually did some really good work with Kierra throwing Chelsea under the bus to cure saying Chelsea issues trying to make alliances last week without you and cure, like even recognizing what you were do. That's very much curious story of the game is recognizing what's happening and still von for it. They were very upset with, with, with Chelsea, and that spawned, a whole situation that we with, with Kierra in Chelsea. Here at one of the best campaigns ever. And they didn't even notice, you know, wherever Chelsea was cure, is where it's talk to you. Cure talk to right after. Chelsea. You know, like I said, had one of the best campaigns in big brother candidate history without even knowing what they were doing now. And so, after after being nominated cure, does this thing with Adam, where they're like, you're the reason why we're on the block. Because you talked to Dane, and then he ran to you and was like, did you say something, and, and then cures like I was testing, you, you do have a guys thing and you're like this guys thing must be coming from. Chelsea, Chelsea was same as maybe we do have to Chelsea. Yeah. That was at the moment wool. And then they I don't know cure a cab s she came up to me that with this, this, where did you see that and told me that Chelsea sauce, do it? So. I don't really know how that all got brought up. It was curious Amer. Chelsea. So in the in the hot tub area, you guys were talking about previous alliance signals like before trysts and stuff. And then you as doing like. And cure was there with their back turn their ears. And so they doing that's being dummies. You know, I don't recall that moment here as they swear. That that's how they saw. But they didn't pinpoint on Chelsea, so at that moment, we always lot Chelsea knows wage. You much Ziada go in fact, actually here. Yeah. This again. Kiki Esti were talking to themselves about, like, could they could be working could this be really this really be happening? But you know what? Even if it's true Dana Anthony are on our side, they've got us. So that's fine. So this is one of my favorite moments from you, actually you were playing both Sam and Chelsea at this point telling them both to win the meter. You're talking to Chelsea. You're like you gotta go try to win that veto Chelsea. I really wanted to win that veto. And then Chelsea weaves and you look to the candidate. Sorry, Canada, my words. No good. Yeah. All, you know our. She called me out, rape before that. And, you know, I need I knew rate honesty, a blessing being called out by one point, the whole house because I knew right out that I needed to go do some damage control. And so, you know, I gave her some words recurred, I made a believe that I was actually not going out here. I wanted to win the POV calm, but same time Sam back door her. So I, I was telling her to go if you win this calm they want you to calm keep the novel same. So I had it both home believing that they weren't. Yeah. So this is Corey wins wins the veto. This is when Corrie starts looking even more threatening, you know, being an Olympic athlete. Of course. This is also when I started to see you working on Mark a lot. That you were always playing the middle with pretty boys. But this is really when I think you started to look more like a front runner within the pretty boys, because you had Adam you had Anthony, and you're also working on Mark. I dunno. If you you'd never really succeeded with Mark, what you were, you're trying, while with him, telling you Anthony's gonna be real hard to be. You don't wanna talk Anthony. And talking about, you know, Kira curate accurate would be a good final to go. Mark told me on his way out that from week two or three he was planning on taking care to the final two always. Yeah. And also, this is the week where you had a conversation with Mark in the pantry and I don't remember what the conversation was about. But after you left, Mark look to the cameras, like he's a Walking Dead, man. He's plotting. Your demise this early on. He he really wanted to target you. If he won a double of addiction or a triple of action HOA JR. He was really gunning for you very early like whoa. Where did this come from some people don't believe that it would actually happen? Obviously it didn't eventually but, but he was he was like, really talking about it for while. And that's why when the secret room opened he was, like, by the way, if you if you saw anything that I was, I was talking to cameras the wasn't real. That's why when he came up to me like that, like, on Kate is being all in hockey out of the whatever that then sorry, sitting down there. That he was so scary man walking. And slay, slay the prison Kloner by again. I knew, you know, our friendship's genuine. We did a lot together. So I, I mean good for him for recognizing that I was a big target. Again, I don't really believe he would have shot. He had a chance, zu anyone speeches. But they didn't work for show. You know, he was pretty low guy as much as it does sound like he was. He took a lot of shots at us never did. So. That's the thing about like when I was doing the week to week status updates is that even the few times that people would have taken a shot at you. They never had the numbers to actually get you out. You would always stay even if they put you up against Anthony, which would probably be the person, you'd have the most trouble against Anthony is usually the one that would have gone home over you just because you had more allies on your side, so you were talking to the cameras this week saying your plan was final four pretty boys and you're gonna take Anthony, the final to even even though he'll be hard to be. You did wanna take him and talk about if for some reason keenest you're there, then I'll take ST but. But the plan is pretty boys. Yeah. Always pretty what I was honesty. A little guy. And now you said that Aaron still gave me a little bit of a rough time bringing Anthony. But I knew you know, I we'll talk about later. I'm sure but winning all the legion appeal we's down the end. I knew no matter whoever the win. But it just made me look a little bit more loyal to loyal than I was because those jury questions, maybe like a big lie, and Farley aimed at least I can say that day too. I had this. This goal in mind this pack with Anthony and I held a how, how you and I am a little God. Yes. Well, that's that was a point of contention last night, when we were doing the roundtable, is that I have other other co hosts that are like, Dane, wasn't a loyal player. And I what I said was I feel like he was he played a loyal game for like ninety five percent of the game. Right. Like I feel like that's what you mean. When you say that you are a loyal player because obviously, at the end of the day, you, did you did turn on atom in, you did have these other plans. So like, would you say, like when we talk about Adam who definitely would not have turned against the guys at all. He would have taken you to the end versus you. I mean, I think it would be fair to say that Adam was a more loyal player. The news is that fair. I'm sure it say again, I love Adam I coulda done this without him. You eat you. You wouldn't have gone as far without me either. But again, he was loyal Sam forty one days. Or, you know, also, that's what I kind of have to sit down and reflect dying. All I really wish things could have been different between me an animal wish I could have been in the finals. But again. Always him and Sam Adam before before me and him. So when I got rid of them, or when we turn on them just gotta remember that those Sam somehow in the mix there, he was brought her over me. So. But he's a loyal guy. He's wanna be hurts. I met and I appreciate what he did for the pretty was. And again, I don't think any of us would go as far as we did with each other. So, yes. Like for the record. I think it's I think it's a good thing that, that you had maybe a little bit more self interest. Than than maybe some of the other players in the boys. And that's, that's one of the reasons why we started to look at you, as, as maybe the front runner of them, because because you, you were working them more than than they were working each other, and that was that was a good thing in India did seem like you were a little more willing to do. What was best for you in certain insert situations. No, I came there. I don't want come second or third. I wanted to win the game. And I always try to had three boys best interests at heart, but, you know, you gotta look over number one, which is yourself and not just like in life. So I mean you know, I had to take care of me before I can take care of the boys. But I try to take care of the boys much as possible. Yes, I do that as well. I talked to Adam about. We'll, we'll talk about it, but the second double of action he was. We'll get there. So this is one. This is this is a funny moment. Eddie Eddie, tried to flip the vote to save. Chelsea in part of how he tried to flip. Damian was he told Damien? Hey, you know that. The Anthony endangered Philip the vote against you last week. Right. And Damian was like all really and then Eddie left and Damian's. I, I don't believe it. I don't believe that Dane has my back. He hasn't put me on the blog. I don't believe, but he did any, he told he went he told you about most of that conversation. But then he did. He did keep thinking about it. And like day he went into like detective Damien mode, and he approached a bunch of people like did you hear anything about a potential vote flip last week against me? And nobody could tell him anything. The few people that could covered for you. And, and his little detective. Spree failed. Yeah, I roll in all honesty. I love mama mama be great for Anthony at the time. But I never never once said to the vote, definitely learn more Anthony than you. Yeah. I was like what woke up Thursday morning and then EROs talking about keeping mom over dean, you know what that was that was Anthony? Like he would just he would just flip votes. I like for the fun of it. I felt like like he was talking to SDN key. He was like, hey, maybe we should vote Damian. They're like, yeah. Maybe we should vote Damian and then he'd talked to Corey about, like, maybe we should we do this. I don't know. It was like, well, what are you doing Anthony? And then he he'll timidly decides not to it was he would just I swear you do it for fun just because. Just because. He liked to mess with people's heads that morning woke up like what the heck? Then, you know, honestly, point we, we, we blamed it on sound. Everyone believe that eighty time somehow only wow, Sam wants to keep mom. Yeah. Well, I mean even did for for a second there. Damian actually did some good work with with Sam. I would never. No never come after you. And she's I believe this guy. He's, he's a good guy. Again. We always we always wondered like I felt like Damian has like the raw potential to be a good player. He's so believable is so good. Socially, but, like snow knowledge of the game beforehand, and no connections. And unfortunately, no, like real killer instinct, but if he had been part of the pretty boys all different story, a zen, he's a solid solid, dude. Gets lobby with a believe honesty is very genuine. But Jalis the knowledge of the game you only watched one season. I don't think you need to go in the house being all huge fan of the game. But definitely knowing game a little bit more than one season helps. May, you never know. Maybe we'll come back for another season. 'cause I Canada love them. So then we get we get to double vision you this point, I felt like maybe maybe Sam is willing to take a shot at you at this point. She certainly tried to encourage Adam too, when he alternately wins here and you are still targeting Sam and Eddie is also now on on your hit list a little bit. So Adam wins, obviously Eddie is going to be your target and Eddie is going to be the one to to go as I said Sam was, like he's gonna take a shot here. This is your chance. What do you? And so any leaves this is very sad on the says I'm sure it was very sad in person. Interiors. Yeah, no, I feel for any man. He's a guy but he, he didn't think that Canada, nor the houseguests liked. But I mean that's complete balls. We all love them. He's aesthetic funny character. But. This is time to go vault Burma that moment, PS, then Sam wins the next h h and you were very frustrated this. We saw we saw you with your water bottle into the bed like. No. Because you wanted Sam out. And also, this is again, like talking about, like potentially dangerous situations for you. This was definitely as I don't think you could have gone home. And even if you had touched the block, but it was still not great. But ultimately, you don't end up touching. The block SAM's still feels good enough, or at the very least that, that even if she did put you on the block, it, wouldn't go anywhere. So that she doesn't want to even try and so you are going to stay safe this week. Yeah. Is by com-. I can't believe me SE and her in the tie-break question I really, really didn't wanna win. So numbers quite high on tiebreak question. So I wrote a low number and just hoping that s the pull it a win. Byerly when Sam one oh my God. Here we go a lot of but kissing this weekend. To get it on good side. But what really helped me was that my last two ages. I never put her her up. So, you know, my word was good you here. And again, like you said, I think if she did put me up, I wouldn't have gone home. And then, you know, all all trust is broken and I'd be fired for her and choose probably a little hesitant a little scared to do that. So you know players is I'm grateful for never putting her up and everything the back door to her, because that by voted them that she would one that one war war is on. Yes. I mean this, this guy, I guess theoretically could have been. She didn't have the votes to get you out, ultimately with the blood veto this could have been a very dangerous spot for you. Although I'm sure you would not have given up. The blood veto had you been endanger. So I doubt that would've been too much of, of trouble for you. But that blood that you don't man, I was like if I was even considered going on the block we would still be today. I've known degree on it as. I don't know how, you know, markan KiKi were on the block that week and they're the Ayrshire to cure net. Like Matt Barnes, Jamie to that post. I'm not touching that until it's my name being honestly said damn impress your production expected that to last quite longer than. Yeah. You know, we were kinda, you know, I was actually kind of pissed off to in Lhasa long. But. Like I said, I didn't care because. I knew I was on the blog but rules reverse and go on the ball, we've still here today. The show would still be reading and. Yeah. Sissay whatever you want here. I can have it. I guess what is on big deal to me? Yes. So Sam initially wanted to put Anthony and Corey on the block. But, but KIRO was like, no. Because at this point, Anthony had been really working on Kira. The week before they've been talking a little bit. Adam was also like, nah, don't I don't like that. They've actually put put Sam onto KiKi as the target with Mark as the pond. Although then, again, Esti doing some decent work. SD played up the guys thing with Sam after it was revealed that the KiKi would be on the block, and we can't have a girl leave the guy needs to leave, and she did manage to flip Sam to police, the target on Mark instead of KiKi for a while there. This is also when KiKi starts to doubt you a little bit. She's talking to estimate like, I think, Dane wants me gone so he can take you to the final two and it was like. Maybe a little bit close. But now exactly. Yeah. For real. For real. And really you didn't. You didn't want KiKi to leave at this point, you know, you're trying to get Corey to go home, because that was much better for you. I mean the KiKi KiKi was good for your game at this point. And keeping as many numbers, as you could with would have been great when I when I heard that KiKi and Marco up, new as not good for key heating is Mark. I all the pretty boys would somehow pull off a Mark stay and I was on board from our same, obviously. But the four the POV Cervantes is really trying to get, you know, Chiapa blah. And I never I never came out with a back door on Corey, but I definitely plan some seating, SAM's head, and they grew into a plan and I do feel bad. But again, not key was part of my sidelines. Corrie was I had a girl relation with Corey, but out of date someone that wasn't part of my both. My lies is why not. Yeah. This is this is a pretty funny series of. Events throughout the week because you were I remember you were telling Sam Corey corey's the alpha female now and you're trying to plant those seeds and KiKi and ST had a conversation with Adam, they were like super excited, but we're gonna make an alliance with Adam and Sam it's going to be great, and they brought it to you. They were so excited. And you're just like. Alright. Can I what do I do here? And so you, you end up going into the lounge and you had conversation where the like, hey, maybe we maybe maybe Corey should be a target. And. And so that started to seem like a plan and then then you brought as into the habitat and hero like. Great for now. We're going to get Corey targeted that's that's good. But we're not going to be loyal to this. You still need to go after saying. Like so she was like, oh, like, okay, okay. You're right. We need to go after. No. I was trying to play along keep KiKi save. So, you know, odyssey of the I haven't can work with them, but at the end of their they not going to happen. And I told the girl of my, you guys believe this really sat down for five minutes of the whole week and timing of final five deal. So by then we still trying to get the girls against them. And the Kiki's finally started not believing me. Yeah. Kill key really felt like Dane. He's taking he's going to take this opportunity to separate me and ST so that he can take us to the end. But you really I mean you were willing to let her go if you needed to, but, but you're trying to keep her safe here. I'm happy. She'd see that because she definitely didn't believe that. But. But that we try to play all angles. Keep her Mark save. Yes. Fell short. But also in this is another fund series of events because Adam did talk to Sam after winning the veto and he had Sam convinced. Let's go, let's back door Corey, let's make this happen. But that's when Kira gotten mauled and KIRO went to Anthony and Corey, and said, hey, Dane, and Adam are trying to get Corey backdoor and cure said it was Dane, who convinced Adam who's now convinced Sam, and Anthony media was like to Corey, like I don't think this, the full story I think it's more atoms than Dane. And so, so he was already planning those words. And so, but, but Anthony found out this is happening. He was not happy. He media immediately got to work. He talked to Adam and convinced atom. No, no. It's not Corey, it's KiKi animals. I wanna do Kiki's like no this is what you need to do. Here's what you're gonna do. Here's we're going to do. And then told Adam went to say to Sam and adamant to Sam and said Anthony's words which happened a lot in the season and an atom with Anthony's words, convinced Sam, okay? We'll take out KiKi. We'll keep Corey around and Sam even said to Adam and sounds like Anthony talking to me. A lot. So that and that was the nail there in the coffin for KiKi and KiKi. Really? I don't know if you know this, but Kira had promised KiKi that they would use the blood veto to keep KiKi safe because they really felt confident with KiKi in the guy needed to leave. And so that's why cure was so upset about Corey going on the block as cure really wanted Mark to go home. But then KiKi SD I felt a little too comfortable and KiKi was never great at the campaigning and making people that she didn't like feel comfortable and so here would keep talk trying to talk to them, and they'd kind of blow cure off a little bit, and curious started to feel like am I being played by KiKi? And that's when Kira went to Sam and it was like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm starting to feel like I don't trust him. I feel like she's telling us what we wanna hear and salmon just been turned by Adam. And so Sam was like, no, you're right. I want I want KiKi gone and cure. Also this, this is like, quote of the season cure, is that I went to Anthony, I told him about deigned plotting behind his back, and Anthony was so mad. He was, like, of course. I know Dana turning on me. I know all of that stuff. I think I did. I cracked the boy's thing. I did it. So now we can affo-. To keep Mark. That's. Now what's can secure the I've known this for so long? And if you known for so long cheese of levied. Oh, Martin, and they gave me some BS about how more beneficial to keep Mark rookie. Here's okay. So that's what never fully believe. Like you're a new vote, the guy lines. But that will that. Yeah, that was that was the reason is that basically it was Anthony that Anthony had convinced Kira that he was against you and that Kira had succeeded in going to by going to Anthony and telling him about the Corey backdoor that they had cracked cracked it wide open. And now there is going to be some kind of war between you and an Anthony and, and all this stuff. And so that's why they felt comfortable keeping Mark around if not for that. And then they really were pretty dead set against Mark at that point, Mark could have gone home. Shows how good poppies him his words, man, I guys guys, one of a kind. One of the. So this also was the spark. Of debates. With the pretty boys you guys started to argue with each other about like, all right. Who is our final five person? You're trying to argue case and Adam was, obviously, like Sam, right? And Anthony was kind of like Corey. And, but ultimately like the one person you can all mostly agree on was Kira because Adam felt like he had Kira. Mark wanted to take care of final too, because they were his best chance to his his goat that he wanted to take down to the end and the. Secretly without Adam really? Knowing had cure, a more than even had them did Anthony was like, no cure is a good good option as well. And so there was a lot of a lot of arguments here about this. I knew that I wasn't too fond bringing here. I know. Didn't like me in the house too much. And then, you know how to Adams back aunties back and how you know, they told me that bringing marked by would probably be their best bet a winning. So. They kind of had know try to put up a good case rasta know I love Asti so watch, but she's not the strongest competitor, even cures more stronger than I think, but I wanted to make waves in the in the in the lion. So. Early on to that, you know, see how Plato, but, you know, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do into swallow, your pride, and curious still wasn't the worst pig to bring because they are the strong thing com competitions this is definitely an example. I think of, you know, you not necessarily getting your way not necessarily having your ideal setup for the final five, but it doesn't matter. If you are the one that people within the pretty boys, feel best about because you're not arguing so fervently against them, and what they want that, like, you know, they're, they're looking to get the most out of their percentage chance. That what if this person wins when really it's ninety percent? The pretty boys would still be in charge. And if that's the case, that's what you were focusing on, which is much more important. I think active man. So I can't believe how much power we had through. That game. I don't know what we have one more to a couple of throwing competitions but pretty ways. Eight out of ball. H O ages storming. Something to be proud about. And then that's also helps you know never being feel threatened. I never felt threatened that game. And he's in and you never touch to block say, we'll man eight times out of twelve hour, of course touch the blog but knows the nice feeling different game. You know, talking to at and they're they always felt threatened right through weeks and weeks. And how you know. That would be stressful. I, I was never to dress that I was until you know, David five and then like a way this is how the game this is this is the game. Start you did. Tell KiKi this week when the blood veto happened, you said, you know, because you didn't know what it was gonna be. And you said, hey, if Adam does end up on the block for some reason, maybe this is the time to take a shot. Did you mean that at the time would you would you take the shot? No, not at all. But, you know, still playing both sides kit years. I felt like he doubted me a little bit. So when I told her that I think maybe that would help the case of trusting me again, but never ever thought about carrying on out of that early on. Yes. All right. So, so cure at this point is like fully anti Dame curious trying to throw you under the bus to Corey. And it's kind of working a little bit with Corey, but of course Anthony is there to, to reverse it. And, but Sam more more importantly is also working on Corey trying to flip Corey against you. And Sam was definitely succeeding there for awhile. I felt like oh Sam. And Corey, this is this is happening like they are bonding. A lot like this, this is going to be bad for Dane moving forward. But, you know, we, we know what happens there. Kiki. Of course it's gonna blow up on you on her way out the door. And I love how you used this because you used very well, like, oh, man, everyone hates me a kike really mess things up for me. But, but it actually was very beneficial on, then I actually thanked her on the planet. I probably have won Raewyn. She left and blew up me. I had to kind of remember who she talked to last for the ceremony Corey and right after she laughed. I felt like everyone's watching all the eye on me. I love the Cory. Cory acting very different with me. So I need, I knew it needed to talk Corey. So when she left in the court odyssey when wage. Up to Anthony apologized and said, I don't know what's going on, but I need your help here, and so me him and Corey sat down, and we made one of the best backdoor ever everyone thought that I was the biggest target, I'm going on the block by little me Corey anathema, or at that time. And I, I really do believe the Corey would have targeted you if not for the quick, quick work that you and I both, did you immediately started getting to work you coordinated with every member of your lines to make sure that everyone had their stories straight, and just like the contrast between what you were doing talking to talking to Damien on man. Like this is what you need to say. Make sure make sure everyone storylines up versus Adam Sam and Kira who were all saying different things to Corey. It was it was really a sight to behold. Yeah, I don't know how. Oh, I mean, again, I'm not the best liar. But I know that thirty to line up to make it believable. My saving grace that salmon cures stories were all over the place. And again, I'll you know, I never once said, let's back door Corey, I said, yo-, if someone's POV corey's strong stuff Email. Planned seeds odyssey s I kind of helped create the back their plan. But so that's what I telling Corey is like, yo, I honestly didn't say we should back door. You. I said this said that. And then salmon Kira? Thank God that around around couldn't figure out story. See other. By that time was playing the game finally you know honesty playing a game since. This week. Made everyone believe that I was the biggest target in the game. Finally. Thank you kike for doing that as blessing disguise at one of the Corey, and tone core that she needs put me on the block with love more believable it should be mean Asti because, you know, we're, we're, we're the rotted I alliance and. I told her that I'd probably win the POV and we can probably back door whoever should like. And. Anthony Anthony a lot of work this week tune. He got SAM's name inquiries head, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to Anthony's role. He kinda made Sam go up to corn say this, and then he wanted to cure and told go say this Corey, and that's when all the stories started, not lying up. So. I can't wait to watch as we. It was a fun. Like who's good? And they end it together pretty well team. So. Be fun to watch. I remember like Anthony going in to talk to Corey and Corey started out like yeah. You know, Sam saying this, and you could tell the Corey was kind of, you know, she'd been bonding him a lot. And so there was out of work there that salmon put in and right away. Anthony was like, yeah. I mean I was talking to two Dane, and we were talking about a sketchy Sam is. And it's like obviously, we know we know sim sketchy I wouldn't I would never believe what Sam was telling me and, like, yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't either. I know. I know SAM's sketchy that's, that's. Oh, yeah. We pour Sam. I mean again, she wasn't so close to Adam, maybe she wouldn't be in her head so much, but well, this was the right time, I think finally to take this shot. It was perfect timing. I think especially for you. Yeah. So, so the plan works. You get you get Corey on board were you ever nervous about volunteering you did this a couple times out the season, volunteering volunteering for the block, obviously, you would have been safe, like even if you stayed on the block with would would have gone home. But, but it's still. It's always a risky position there to be on the block. Yeah. Ameris. But again, like you said, I felt I had the numbers stayed no matter what and you know, by doing this kind of, you know, meal of Mary, good, and cory's is, you know, that you can trust me you can trust me one hundred percent. Go get your on a little scary thing on the block. No one everyone's go on the block. But I wasn't scared. You know in the POV thank God is broken records. One of the, you know, for me for being occupied and or nation, all were dome, my favorite, you know, my competition during that was not that top is Mark and Sam basically playing against me and broke records, and I knew Mark would've won. He took me off anyways, so. You know, our doubly identically telling court put me on the block effort. But I wasn't scared. Yes, you also demanded atom, here, who was very upset, especially initially this is when we get the infamous box punching scene. Always always found the contrast between like Adam when he's mad like punching the boxes shirtless versus versus you the water bottle on the bed. Contrast of angry moments. But, but you really have to manage that. And I loved how you, you really like off. Adam, you one this one, I'm on the block. Sam. Of course he was like, yeah. Well, you know, I was never that upset, you know, it's fine. I we had to make sure that I'm believe that Sam wasn't endanger that I was the base target that week that I had no idea what was going on. And then when I won the POV me, and Anthony bro, and bro to him, saying that Sam, I go up. And honestly, the funniest moment in the house was when me and Anthony did that to Adamy approached them regular the weights were were area was they just in Adam pike style. Got red in the face. I kind of wandering. Wondering if Sam on the block, and the Anthony. Just started labouring. Holy man's guy. Actually loves this girl, but. Yeah, it was fun week. You know I had to play on a little bit there. But I think he'd understand why there, there was a great moment. Earlier in the season when you guys are talking to Adam, and he was, like, man. I'm the Hayden moss, aren't you guys need to keep me pulled in? Ships. Yeah, he was. And again, anything you say that has something to do with him or Sam. He would be motions vote and go go thumping around the house and probably talk to someone about it. So and Anthony kind of caught on early that we ought to be tight lipped without him as much fossil. Also, when you tried to cash in on your deal with Kierra from what they tried to promise you in week two that they were on you if they ever one and they're like. That's when I, I, I realize will never really fully believe, cure, never really, trusted them so much. But, you know. And I never because obviously I made a mistake promising on something that's a little bit more larger than the game. So when I went up to them in protest them, and confront them about the deal and they said, no, that's what they came. Pretty much buck them. I'm gonna do this for myself and then whatever kind of deal they strike out with them moving forward knocking to believe. Yes. But you did continue to make these deals that neither of, you really believed in you all you, Anthony kept, and he kept telling cure you need to make peace with Dane. And so they kept trying to go to you, and you would be like, oh, we're good moving forward. And I do feel like this was even though like it never really was genuine. I felt like I feel like it helped you with your relationship with them. To the point where they did respect you a lot. And you, you were always treating them with respect, even though you are sometimes frustrated with them. Do you think that was that was big in terms of a curious eventual jury vote? No. Yeah. Me here. I don't know. You guys may have seen it. But we actually connected very on a personal level since day one. She, they're my smoking, buddy and every go over smoke. We talk a little bit of game, but we would more shift towards personally issues and personal problems or you know, life experiences and. You know, definitely help with a jury, but like honestly I really do love Kira. But in that game is hard to trust them. I didn't really respect their gaming all ever. Like I love him law. We connect on a very good personal. And then, you know throughout the weeks, they even came up to me, and, you know. You know, it's kind of an honor to play play with you Dane. I'm a big fan of the game. And I'm seeing what you're doing. And you're, you're starting your slowly starting become a little bit of a legend. And I was like. Oh. And then Raewyn odyssey. Everything's going down. They told me no matter what who I was sitting beside in the twos. They give me their vote because they truly believe that I played one of the best games in the big road, Kennedy history. I felt very honored. Yeah. That was. Anthony really put the vocabulary into the house, a legend your hall of Famer. A lot of things thrown around Lyon. Did. I did line Cantini in my interview with him in Toronto. I was like Anthony am I align. He said, yes, he said, I was a lion. You are buddy you're you'd be pretty ways. Sure. So this also, this is when Anthony, Anthony was little bit upset about the back door court plan. He did. He did you use like, hey, you should've talked to me about it. I'm sorry. I didn't even realize it was real thing. You know, trying to trying to do your best. But this was kind of the start of Anthony splintering away a little bit. And he started to get closer to Mark, and he started to have talks with Mark separate from the pretty boys. Like, hey, I'm going to help you get closer to Corey. We're gonna he's started to form a little bit of a trio with him Corey. And marquee, also brought you in with Cory Cory felt good with you as well as we hadn't fully gone away from you at this point. But but he was he this is the beginning of the splinter there that, that almost cost you the game and final five. But didn't know no feeling here's a really upset with me. But he didn't see me on a lot of things as well. But, you know, being, you know, being Anthony, he always wants to be number one, the controlling leader. So I had my Prada Gannon me they go, I'm sorry. But after he told me he was making Corey, it close with Mark. Funny feeling that, you know, I started to lose a little bit of trust and Anthony. And maybe he was gonna try to Kate Mark further in the game in the myself and probably should have. Yeah. So this is also you were starting to work on atom more your. Hey now Sam out of the way we can focus on final, too, right? You also talked about throwing the next h the cameras, how can you remember? How many competitions did you actively throw? So the next h h drugging speeches through that one, I spy, I kinda through kind of tiebreaker question could have gone either way by drug speeches there. There's a few that I knew I can win ship t drop h wage, I didn't care to win that one. Modern allay through that. There's another POV through, and, you know, no one really caught on, but there is a some some guys. You look like done. I said, I Dane is throwing competitions. I'm very good. My name is in Kira. Honesty knew that. So when I through the drunken speeches, run, they're really doing and. Oh my, my covers blowing, but no. Three private four competitions Forty-five all law because I asked because at the end of the season, you, you, you ended with seven out of fourteen competitions one, which is the best percentage. You just just Eka atom out there, Adam out of fifteen. So and so you, you're tied with Adam Kevin and Dimitri at seven wins total, but you have the best percentage. And in what I thought was even more impressive about that is that you did throw a lot of those competitions certainly Kevin did as well. And in Kevin was, you know who knows who knows what Kevin is capable of if he's not throwing additions. But, but, but still, I mean, it's very impressive. And if you if you even one, one of those competitions that you through. Then you have the record and if you win two of them in the near you're up there with Gene-o. No. It's okay. Like the category. I'm with Jerry. And those, you know, Kevin Dimitri atom. I got to meet them all now and they're great individuals. But, you know, everyone's asking me how feel to be, you know rank as legend there. And, you know, being a fan boy, I don't I'm not like to meet you, like Kevin but. You know, something to reflect on down the road OB something special and. Again, this hasn't all sunken, and all yet winning meal, even being in that house. They sunk in yet. I. Like the idea that like you are that you had a perfect game like Kevin you tied Kevin and competitions like that, but having watched Kevin, it's probably like, but I'm not like Kevin like he's he's Kevin. I'm digging things. That's really you. That's your attention. And you know it's hard to reflect era. Brought to my attention the Friday after I left that house and. That time it really hard to reflect on, and I really didn't believe by you know, I did what I did coming home and talking to friends and family. I haven't seen anything yet but so trying to hard sink in. But this nice that people did notice, you know, I, I played my heart out. I don't think doing anything special because watching twenty into the show us kind of catch on what to do. I'm sure once I kinda watch it. Appreciate it more. Yes. So this week, SAM's going home. This is I think one of the most important parts of your game as well. You it like you're making a concerted effort with Sam on her way out the door to do the jury management. And you're very successful. Can you tell me about like your strategy there? Yeah. Means San funny relationship. I never put her up. She and her for me up. So when she was going home, she was up against. S you there? With the hell or trying to get me to vote SEO. But you know, I played along. I talked to you all the time saying all that you might be better for my game. He's not winning competitions. You are I trust you at this point. So I'll help you. I'll help out your campaign and I'll talk to everyone for you. You know, I went up to market tended to talk to him about keeping Sam. But I made sure that Sam and Kira saw that sitting down, Mark. And even if I didn't speak of keeping some, I made sure that they thought that and then, you know, and then Hasni coming up to me, and ask me if I'm trying to keep him. And I knew Ray when I said, maybe I you know, maybe we should he would right up to add on how to huge hissy fit. And then and then Sam incurable came out to me like you so much for trying for trying to keep me. Sam told me that it wasn't Adam and the violent to that they put probably me their vote because they also they also gave me kudos for playing such a game. So it's at that point, jury votes are hard to try to build a relationship before you vote them out raise so. Yeah. I don't know it all worked out already everything. Just laid out perfectly for me. And I just made sure that they saw me try to campaign for Sam even my weather early and Sam really appreciate your you had a conversation with her about, like, how much you thought she was great. And you love her. And then she she went and talked to Adam right after she was like I just love Dane. I know he's getting me out, but, but he's just a great guy. Age genuine. I really do. Love Sam means for the first six days, the house. We hung every morning because we're two hours before everyone else can sleep. And we would bed the last one in bed chew. So I really do love Sam the word speaking to her at that we say, how much love your were genuine, but I definitely dead need her out of the house. She was there for too long in my opinion. So she does get a victim there. And when she talked to me, in her exit interview I asked her to rink remaining players in terms of who's most likely to get her vote, and even like adamant Dane. That'd be a tough one. But obviously, you know, if atamans it's kinda like me winning so I go, but then, Dane, even above even above Kira drank here, third. And she did say she would vote for care over Anthony, which, but. So a Sam leaves at this point, you're, you're next target is Cory. Correy is one of the only people who can win competitions. That's pretty boys. And I also this point nobody, nobody would target you this week, if they wanna choice, you're completely in completely safe at this point. And, and I was like, okay Danny's working with the pretty boys, Anthony Corey SDN Damian adamant era, and yeah, that's, that's the whole house that Bracken speeches. And that's the first combination of while I can actually throw this. And I don't care who ins and so, yeah, that point, I was like, wow, I am literally working with everyone in the hell is without them knowing about the pretty boy lands, and without them knowing, you know, mean Cory Anthony, I'm in the best position, boss, and weirdly, like Mark ruins is competition is potentially the most dangerous person for to win this competition re because he said it out for you for so long. But at this point in time he's more angry. With Adam for letting him go on the block. When Sam is h h and also when he has a conversation with you. You offer to go up in the pond. He was very touched by that moment. And so he is completely off of you at this point. And instead wants to flood the water flow float out there. Hey, let's put up Adam and see what happens. He's hoping that something happens in Adam goes home at this point. But of course, that's not gonna happen. You and Anthony were to loyal we. That's what we felt like he discussed allow them going on the blah too much. But when he did put up Adam me out of conversation saying, Mark is actually trying to get you out, man. And now like hearing all the, you know, through the grapevine, how much Mark wanted to get me out. I don't know what on tear myself. Week but helped it, you know. When against helped my bet that my game, made Margaret that I'm good dude. I really believe in the boys. And when Adam refused the on the block, and kind of open it is saying, maybe it's time for them to go. But again me, me, and Anthony never once doubted to get Adamo, but we're trying to build a story up against everyone else in the house seeing that there's no gallons. There's no guidelines as this is also a great moment on the feeds the next morning. You are in Malone. Very frustrated with Mark. That fuck. Yeah. I was like, man, you didn't not how to put me on Slaw. He did he followed it bad and there's my birthday we as well. So man on slop for my birthday, and he wouldn't put up Cory Cory whisper to go on flop. And I was able to help any put a pretty way on Slaw and you're probably gonna put a pretty boy on the block. They are you really for this anywhere. But yeah, that Friday was that was a hard day for me. I always left to hell. I was not doing it. And then you do another week of this shit. Slop is, is the and I'm happy that I experienced it, but I'm even happier that I don't have to ever teach again. Unless I go back in the house by. That stuff doesn't sit well my stomach. Not take slobbery. Well. But that was another strength of your game that I talked about when I went over your game was that. You would often be very frustrated in the house, and you would often be like, like our need to get Sam out or like oh, f Mark. They never saw that you always were able to keep that hidden. And, and when you talk to them, it was all smiles without teeth. And you always able to, to keep them in the dark about that. Yeah. That's just a little bit of honky for Yary their hockey's all controlling emotions. And every any to, to hired to lows got to remain neutral. And I knew that was a huge part of this game to really keep your motions and neutral and area to cited that you want H age or you're doing something greater, you know, never get too negative and negative feelings towards people. So when I when I was pissed off with Mark, I would go and a room by myself and kind of talk to myself about it. And then when I saw there's was all different game. I mean, after that rant to the cameras, you went to Mark, and you started working on him. And you spent the next couple of mornings, working on market was funny, because like you would sit in the same spot each morning with the same money having the same conversation with Mark about putting Corey up and after a couple of days of that, you, you did it you got you got Mark flipped around. And you had him got him willing to put Corey on the block. But the second time Anthony finds out the. Yeah. And. Oh, no, no. No. Anthony, of course, is like I can't believe Adam did this screw. He's such a snake. I don't know. I don't know how that happened, but. I don't know. I really wanted to like I worked my big off court on the block. I love Corey. But again, I just knows her time to go. I wanna do behind Anthony's back because I know how Anthony approach the back door Corey already. So he really mad at me on some how he believes all out doing Mark told him that or he's felt that he too, because, you know, he he felt good enough about you that he felt like it must be added. I think I think it helped that Corey to go at Sam you. So Anthony probably all atoms. Bidder about it. He's trying to get back at Corey so. Yeah. But then he'd be yelling at Adam and Adam, it'd be like, hey, it's not just me Dane wants it to. And you were very tricky spot where you were like, no, yeah, I agree. I agree with that him. You know, but but at the same time like we're team and we'll decide team. I can relate to being in that position. I'm very much. Always that person in groups of people, I'm sitting there on in the room and Anthony, Ana were yelling at each other. And then all of a sudden, I'm kind of tuning them out on how he get out here and all of a sudden I heard my knee. Oh, how I get to get out of this one now? But no, I was again, trying to play both sides of Anthony and Adam, but on the down side of me, I really did while Corey gone. However, I can show that to Anthony because I know how Anthony very good with his words and probably get me out at any time you want it to you as well. Yes. So ultimately, Anthony does manage to flip Mark back onto his side again is gonna just further solidify the Mark Anthony and Corey bond, and you're not super happy about this. I loved the morning of the veto ceremony. You of let the house now, like, hey, Mark is not going to do the Corey thing. And you, you really got him all riled up and they. Mark Kerr called him a little man trying to be. Everyone hated Mark. Like you're never getting my Jerry vote, Mark. You said to the cameras at this point. And I was like, oh, here we go. You're like, hey, maybe, maybe Mark would be a good person to take the final two. Nobody's gonna vote for him. Yeah, yeah. No, I was thinking as well. Middle market and onto too much and the game compared to me out them rant Andy, but. Yeah. That was funny. That was upon week. I want to get rid of a big bad player. And then he his replacement nominee was. Die loving like this is too good to be true man. But then Adam. I know you really want in this to be you Adam spent a lot of time in that room. But you did as well Adam is gonna find that flashlight that is going to set him off on the and you, you knew you were like something's up. Adam went to the dire room right after he was in that something's going on. You had like a standoff with him or you're in the room for a while. And then you were both in the living room and Adam really wanted to go back, but he was trying to play cool. And you were you were also like I'm gonna keep them here as possible. No, I need something was found a fricken record, y you know, I found something that never seen them make. Tail and I hit it and then nice I saw can go back and forth to die room and that room. And I just couldn't find the recorder again. And. I found something I'd be smart enough to hide hide it again. Adam urinals, God, you found something you get so excited. He'd probably forget highly anything. I don't know where you're gonna vote. But I'm happy, you know, obviously I wanted to find it. I knew something happened in that room fan on the show. I really wanted to seek your power, but happy out of it as all because he's van on the show for so long, and just to, to get some cedar power, you know, in the house, always a little fun to be fan and actually find it. I mean, I think it worked out for you that you didn't have to be the one that helped soften the blow a little bit too, to Anthony that it was Adam, and not you, even though I'm sure you probably would have done the same thing. I would've been the exact same thing. But everyone just assumed it was Adam de come. Tell me pretty much day out here that he, he was the assassin, but he didn't tell anyone else. But everyone just assumed it was adamant. I think Corey are Anthony really rubbed her own way with him by him. Putting corey. Yes. And Anthony, Anthony was confident that he could get your vote to keep Corey he was like, Danes my boy, this is gonna be okay. And you had to kind of break the news to him like, here's the thing. Don't really want Cory in the house. Now I need is a little piss off of that. But again is on the block gains SEM Damien at that time. And I mean, pretty was new boat my side alliance. Essien damian. So I was like, why would I break their trust now, just in case of Damian or s you did get the next age age, I would be in trouble. So. Yeah. Back to break the news and info worse to break the news to corey's corden campaign to me once a whole week was like, hey, if you betray me I'm gonna be pissed. I'm not gonna vote for you. Yeah. That that cat her. But I mean I know you know, I got lucky with the jury, but I knew that, you know, you need it only four. So I was like, whatever core is one of them is need to all the people leave. So again, I thought Corey was one of the biggest threats those, she's very intelligent. She's smart. She's competitive. And she always had Anthony in her pocket or Anthony add her in her his pocket, but they're pretty dangerous deal. So I kind of wanted to break that up sooner rather than later. Yes, Anthony very, very upset this whole. I'm not like you at them. I'm not like I, I don't care. I don't even care. It's not it's not about that. I've got Cory, she's loyal. Very funny week. He always said, like all, like Adams, outta problem, letting sound only dude. Right now. You're saying, I think I was the best one by letting are, you know. You know, I knew see signs it calm, but is it an act like salmon? And coronet hilly part of the dry. When I when I did the Anthony interview in Toronto, I tried to ask him, if it had come down to it and you had to make a choice between quarry and the pretty boys who would you chosen and he just talked about, like Adam and Sam for while, and then I was okay, but, but if it came down to it, what would you have? And then he made it the question again. So he's gonna running questions. But I'm sure if, if she was still around, it'd be he would have thought about more and more. And you know, I don't want to leave it to chance Greek Corey. I mean, definitely would have been great for his game in terms of wind conditions because Cory could win those competitions and take him to the end and then he wins so jumping Corey and cure around would have been great for Anthony. If possible. The in, but this is a market, Anthony or getting even closer now because they're frustrated with you. They're talking about Mark is, like, hey, we got we got a sewer Dane, in our goodbye messages. We gotta make sure that Corey doesn't like Dame. But, but again Corey calling you out on her way out of the house early works in your favor. I'm not gonna vote for you Dane, you're the worst. It's like, oh boy the jury hates me. I'm definitely not going to win. Exactly right. When she said, as I know she probably doesn't feel that way. But I mean she said in front of the whole house. So if I can't take myself final two why not bring me because. Sound? It's me. Corey's me. You know, everyone say my name when they walk the doors probably a blessing I, I can tell you when I talked to Corey, and I had her rank who she was most likely to vote for two shoes least like before she said Anthony, number one. She said, Damian number two atom, number three. Then Mark number four, and then, Dane, number five cure number six. Yeah. For me. It turned around turn around. I knew I knew he had a few more weeks till finale, and that she can calm down and kind of realize what's going on. And setting the first pretty wide to the jury house prolly also help make. When what I learned was that Sam was very influential in the jury house, and she was a big advocate for you. So that was a big deal, which was funny, because you and Mark would have those conversations market be like Sam is fourteen thousand dollars of equity in Adams favor. And she's dead, guaranteed vote for Adam, but at the end of the day was, it was actually good for you that Sam was, Jerry. And I knew that I played it out with the health cash, and that Sammy to me, but the two days, you've heard, she laughed and you know, I on how close we were in the first couple of weeks. So when she was about to leave, she told me all that I felt very touching honored, but I had he's still played out like she hated me because, you know, that's part of the gas atamans the next h h through this one told out like Mike on this. I don't know why you wouldn't this fun. It's one. Why heated? But he's not really think yes, you have this whole fake meeting about back during Mark where you kind of fake offered to go on the block in front of everyone. And ultimately Damien and Esti go up there. You see, again still trying to work on Mark say, we can't take Anthony. The file to hope you Mark, Mark. He's like, yeah, I'm planning on taking us to curious. So. Rink as much told me on. Yeah. Ashti asks you about the guys ally. Is there an alliance called the broS? I had a young bloods, if do you have any secrets you on? Tell me Dame, you're like. That was in the washroom. And I was looking on, then they, I don't have any secrets Desi, even though I do but only the. The woods I was like that's really a secret because I knew that in all your name. And it in this thing. Kiki would have some conversation, the cameras. Oh, I know. She, she's, she's a talker to the cameras. I mean I try to avoid those much possible just in case somewhere overheard. But she levels cameras. But when the buds like, oh, good. Good secret Asiya didn't really didn't know that one. Right. But I think by sheer to her, or that Mark knew Chelsea already. And you also you also told her you were talking about jury votes and you're like, yeah. I don't think Anthony would get my vote. He'd need to you need to win more competitions really trying to imagine sell the idea that that maybe Anthony's not worthy of the win winning competitions, which is definitely narrative. The jury. Yeah. No, I just in case, some I'll ask you is start winning com. That she would bring me or just and all that I wouldn't vote grant because she she had a Seattle weird relation with him thrilled. The game show channel of across on at this time. While when she was on the block. And Anthony was trying to send your home. Like I don't like. That's what they will SEC starting against anybody. That was fun. That was a fun cars Asian law. You know, I was with the numbers are going down. And I joined spending time with us the. We talked a little Bobo game. We talk more about personal issues and it was a good mental mental break from the game hanging there. Also. You guys had a party and you ended up making out a little bit. At very funny. Reaction. We're there every legally real feelings there for ST. Because, you know, you also the whole despite that you were talking about like cocoa the entire seasons. Yeah. I mean cocoa and I dated for very long time we broke. Fortunately, but she's still my best friend and. She the love my life. I always wanted to get back to your cocoa by no Ozzy being stuck in a house with. Same person twenty four seven for all of today's feelings, but SE, and I both agreed early on that we were just being Fred man's this house helped us becoming inch other in each other's lives because outside the house, you know, she's. Very nice in a single. And then she asked me, how many times I go drinking how much all this, all the fun stuff? But we kinda we kinda, you know, just agree. We've just become friends forever on that day. All the things got a little carried away. I'm not to say that there was no real emotion. There I do do do you love again. It just it was just one one wasn't a mistake. One one fun night, and then back to being a friend. We're we agreed that no matter what happened. We're always remained friends. This is when Damian wins, Vitre you throw the veto and Mark is, is like, all right. I've got I've got a plan, Dane. You should be the one to go on the block, and it seems like initially you are kind of, like okay, maybe that means I won't have to vote ST like maybe I'm on board like were you were you really on board or each of fake that you're onboard, hoping that you could turn it around later, just knew that if the votes fell three one s t and ice of voted to Vic, Mark SE would probably believe that I did vote for her to leave. So I knew no matter what. The scenario was s you pissed at me. So when he did bring that up, I didn't think about him like that actually would make sense. She cannot be pissed. I mean I was on the block sitting next to her. However, at that time after I kind of, like, you know, sat back and actually thought about it. I felt like you know, being danger, maybe the voice would flip on me. Maybe cured with bummy you know, maybe this is not a good idea. So and then kind of marshawn stepping up like you know, I volunteered, how many times you walk like Mark, you know, you gotta do your part, you're too, I'm winning. I'm keeping the voice say you're not winning. And you're now you're volunteering to go on the block to follow your storyline that you always want to follow. So I kind of got a squash idea after bit, I. Yeah. It was maybe. A good idea then sitting back and reflect the on my not this this out. I can tell you that after it looks like that was the plan that you were going to go on the block market. Anthony. They were very pleased with themselves markets like this happen. And it did did it start floating, some ideas like, you know, we wanted to we take Dana this week, not that we would, but maybe we could. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't get very far with that idea because the turnaround, Moya my boy Adam he was, like, man. I can't say I cannot put you on the block. And I was like you know what? Thanks, and I appreciate and yeah, let's do that. Yeah. You know, like you said, you know, broS forever. But again, he always had my back at felt that. But again, it was just because. Sam when there by, when he said that I appreciated it and the folding Anthony, and Mark, we're a little cheese, that me for getting corio. So, yeah, this is put Mark on the yes. So this is also you made the final five with Kira. And then you made the final. With Kira and cure was totally on board. Cure was, was telling you, I don't want you on the block Dane you shouldn't be risk here. And, and you also told Mark Anthony that you were making the final three with Kierra. And, and this was I've when, when final five I was like this is this is the mistake, the day made because he led Anthony and Mark know about this, and then Anthony used that information with Kierra to flip cure against you that same week he had a conversation with KIRO where he told them. Hey, I don't know if Dane he's probably made a final three with you. I mean, I don't know if he has, but he probably has because he's also made final threes with ST Damian to be loyal to any final three of the Dane makes with you. Right after that conversation care started being mainly. Daynuss dangerous. I need to get out of the game. So that was that was a tricky spot. I mistake as well, but, you know, at that time I just didn't want to go behind the boys back. So I was like to get cure more on board with this final five deal that we would make them final three deal and to make them feel very secure. But yeah, I thought that was a mistake, but I also thought at the time is the right thing to do to tell and the Mark like like this is what mean Adam doing. We're not going against you guys that, that it's not. We're not good. You know, we're not going to stay little to it. We're gonna go talk for the boys. But just so cures for re to say final three and all the was a mistake. But, you know, if somehow got my charm and my way that one. It worked out, anyway. Right. So. Maybe if you hadn't told Anthony about this, he probably would have found it anyway. And then maybe you wouldn't have been as open to saving you final five. But until Anthony probably straight for your four for me, and he wants to make me. Yeah. So this is also you were talking to the cameras at this point, you were talking about final three with Adam, and Anthony they both take you. And so that was, you know, you're, you're talking about that as a final through was that was that the plan at this point. Yeah. For sure. You know, I felt like out of the four I love markets. And he's done a lot of things throughout the game. But at that time, it is the most deserving guys to be in the top three were me. Anthony out of man. Yeah. Kinda scared obviously being the calm piece that is. But same time I was like I full, I believe in myself as well. And so I thought I could beat him in any conflict, well so but. Like I said, I won the top three most players to be there. And at that time was going to be out of an Anthony. And I yes, you also worked on Damian to make sure Damien was vote to affect ST so that you wouldn't have to be and it works. You got I caught like a little look between you Damian like right right before the vote was out final confirmation, like you need to do this. Yes. Raid people whenever talking, and they're pleading their case Damian than me. And I said, getting me to to Adam on the break Tyne ask you go home. Why don't we just make it for nothing? And he's like, yeah, I to it and then he came out of that the dia room. And I said, you and he said I drink. SEO. Pergram. And I went in there and. When I said, mar. Inundated hers three one, John. Oh man. No, I heard you I just froze, and I could say Essy's name. So I'm so scared of the guys they hate me for going against them. And then yeah. Told us yet she's walking out the door because she took her brace off that I gave her and I said, I am vote to you. I promise, and she is she didn't believe me, and then I heard from conversations with her. She didn't believe me that I was the one that big Denmark for the long until our came in our no Daming came into. And after the finale show. I want to ask, you know, in a weird shake demented way. I had it back. I didn't vote against you. I new year leaving. But I just couldn't have. Oh, you out and I'm sorry for not telling you. But again, I, I didn't vote to victory. This is the only week in the entire season where you didn't vote for the person that was a victim. But, but I did make a qualification that you basically got Damian to vote. So. Counts against, you know Ray when I heard it gets a Damian did not vote against. Essien voted Marco I wasn't gonna leave at the chance because I didn't know what here is really to do. So I why they get vote SEF deeming its, which is but really did as well. This is actually kind of more fun. This is funny because I got someone to switch his vote go against alliance. And then I went again, I kind of winning in steamy in there, but there's got to be more fun, that way, SD image, URI house. There was a Clinton for Damian's. No. I was the one that she was like, wait. So you're the one I'm pissed. Yeah. She told me that she's a when beaming told me, she couldn't believe it. And like you said, I'm sorry, but I never voted you in she, she ranked number one, she was going to give you her jury vote on her way out. So that was that was good. Yeah. So you headed into the double fiction now prior to the double vision market. Anthony were still talking, and they were talking treachery. Mark approached Anthony's saying if we win this double vision, we need to take the shot, we need to get out of the game. And Anthony was like Amman board, but let's do atom instead of Dan, and Mark was like, okay. Okay. I get that makes sense. And so they were one hundred percent going to take that shot at Adam in the double of action and. Adam was surprised to hear that to this is when Adam said to me like, oh man like I wonder why they didn't approach in about it because Anthony had the veto. He could've used the veto. And with Dane support, they could have gotten me out. And I told atom I don't think Dane would have been on board at that point. And I think that's I think that is the case. No. Yeah. I I've heard now since being back at home later. Cocoa. Even all my friends down. We were like yo like you had no idea of Kazadi really want to win that double action right on cue. I knew where the newer probably off that but I still didn't wanna win it. But they told me that if I didn't win it is probably me or out going home. And that was actually really good that I won that one. Yeah. It's funny because I was like I know Dame's gonna throw this almo boy, I think he just accidents want. Yeah. Yeah. I think I at that time I didn't care everyone. I just didn't want cutaway so cute tee shot at me. So they're shooting me high. So I just had the highest score possible, but yeah, I would never have taken a shot at Adam that early on. I was still loyal to the boys. I did. Really honestly wanna go top for the guys. But now hearing all this, when I got home, and I was like, wow. Wow. See these candidates all that, too. Probably why markup such a bad rap for bit there. But, you know, I felt being Adam or the more loyal ones out of the whole group. So, yes. I ultimately, I think that you would have been okay because Anthony did wanna take a shot at atom? Instead, obviously, if adamant one that, you know, and Anthony remarkable niche, maybe, maybe that would have been a different story, but with Anthony winning veto, as well, then you probably would have been okay? Unless Anthony was h and then he, he did decide he would take want to take you out if he couldn't get Adam out, then who knows. But, but, but, but Anthony did say like he wanted to them out and not not you. So. Maybe he wouldn't have taken that shot. But yeah. And he was never Superfund of Damian. So I feel like at that point. Maybe he does go after naming. Yeah. But was it was a tricky spot? The tricky spot. So you end up winning this one, and even though you not necessarily needed it, but it wasn't the worst thing for you to be safe. That round. It was also not the best thing for you to not be able to play in the final five h wage and, and also that you had to be the one to immediately turn around and stab Damien in the back. So this house is a question that I had for you obviously didn't end up mattering but you were considering telling us de beforehand that she was going to go home. I remember and I was I thought that you were going to. But then as he came out of the house, and she was like, no, I'm really upset because Dan, didn't give me a heads up. And then kind of similar thing happened with Damian where he talked to you in the pantry. And he was like we're good. Right. And you're like, yeah. And then you put them on the block. Was that was that intentional? Did you feel like that you could have handled that better? Or do you feel like that was the best way to go about it? With ESI ino by would give her a heads up a little bit, or the emission, she might have gone, and try to convince people that, you know, Adam, Anthony, Mark, and I were working together. So I mean my tried to you know, I. You know, I didn't four your heads up. I did tell her, I was like y'all kick down to the split vote. And I'm pretty sure and get a VO you all. So I didn't get her heads to read den. When I told her that. Me, Damien her and the red room. How big arguments? Well, Dan expose a pretty boys to her, because she would have definitely done something with it with Damian Damian again didn't wanna win. I wanna be the one to do it. Honestly, I for my personal game I was put up cure Mark. To keep a little tea with Damian and bring Damian top-five around that past Anthony and told me I should talk to Mark and Ronald time because was so quick rate. So I didn't want to piss off the guys. So I just I went with Damien instead, However, I told the he was still okay, don't worry, you're getting a home. But ultimately, the guys wanted deeming to go home, and I can do anything about it. I wish I could have, you know, I wish I had more time. Had more time I would probably put up here Mark and perkier lead. But. Again, I didn't ever want to go against guys. So that was hard. It was hard week for me to vote. S C N Damian, all at once about bad, but playing the game that's interesting to hear because that was another spot. Again, we really at final five. We were doing the retrospect of like man, we really Dane had this, but now, now he's done and where, where did it go wrong? And, and this is another one of those moments where like maybe he should've kept aiming around and tried to get. It was interesting to hear that you, you almost almost did try I well, then, then the week Plato and when you're put me up. Yeah. I looked up my own game rather than the, the guys alliance, but you know it all worked out. But, you know, I really did try to. Switched the vote for deeming to the ten procuring leave because I wanted to come top five better for my game because if Daime would've won, he would not have put me up we have gone far, but. Can go against lines. Damian by the way rate ranks you number two behind Adam when he taught me. So that was that was a little bit surprising. He was pretty mad pretty mad about the whole really mad at me. But yeah, I felt like I was getting a lot of boats, too. So. Take care of him. At some point salmon, Adam told me that you've versus Adam that Adam would have one. Yeah, that's what people were saying. I mean boss ably, I think jury votes would have been Ford. Three either way, right now, everyone's his, and, and they're seeing that would've won. And, and maybe that is, but I really believe it'd be four three either way on aggregrate player. He's a Greek guy a repair agree guy. And at that time, who knows when I had done some very work as well to get to the final to anyone pass off other people down the road. So. Yeah. That's honesty that I would have been exciting final to you. However, not there to be exciting. You know, I want to make sure I get to be the winner. So we were counting votes. We felt like you'd have Anthony, you'd have Corey sorry Sam felt like she might have been able to get ST onboard. But Adam was really nasty would've probably would've had as St. and you would have had cure us. So that's at least three votes. Sam felt like she had Corey Damian onboard for atom. So come down Amar and put, you know, Mark and Adam didn't like each other. So that's why I'm kind of saying, like, I don't know. I think it would have been four three me or four three him, but it wouldn't out of Mark, and I think that, that time, Mark, and I had a really good relationship. He's a fan, boys. Well, so we always talk about, you know, pass seasons. And he loves hockey. We talked a lot about hockey and we talked a lot about his family and my family. So. I run a house me and I was like. You know, I'm gonna give Adam the benefit of the doubt just because, you know, I wanna make him feel good about yourself. But I really do believe that final, you would have been definitely closer how I reading have been four three me, but not me before Graham, and it'd be it'd be really close. Can't tell you the Mark told me Adam number one number two, I was surprised. I thought I thought he was an Anthony vote for sure. And then he came out of nowhere with Adam and Dane in the Anthony third. And I was like, what? Yeah, that's me. But maybe talk to Mark about it. Find out. Actually this tax as I call you. I want to talk about. So curious curious, h h they're hoping their initial plan is put Dane in Mark on the block. And then I'll tell Dane that'll break the title keep him, but really I'm gonna break the tide to Vic victim. But then this conversation, by the way, nature waged with you, cure, an atom. Cures. Like I want to keep them safe took like you're the only one to bring this up. I was like, oh my God. Why are they not talking about this? If Anthony wins the you can use it on the block. Why have they not realized this you, you finally brought it up and cures like I thought about that. And my. I don't know. I when I brought brought to their attention. Oh my God. And then avenues like, oh my God. How no one thing about these scenarios, you know, so, so then they actually did tell me that when I brought that to their tension day didn't want to do that with, with me. So that's why they put up Adam's head of artist. And also Anthony was again in their ears. The next morning saying, you know, you might again, you might think you're working with that him and Dane, but they've got a final two together, and they're not taking you and just see, you know, they talk all the time about manipulating you that they should bring up Sam in front of you to manipulate you and care was not not super happy about that. So secure ends up. Putting you in atom on the block and Adam was not happy Adam Adam blows up, and this was Gallic a whole. This is crazy. This is a great week brother. Adam blows up here is now like okay, maybe I actually want Adam to go, but Anthony because Adam in the middle of the argument hugs him, and they they're crying together Anthony changes his mind. And he's like, you know what Adams, a good guy. He was kind of put off that, that Adam was like in tears, and you're like not, not on the same page. He's like I talked to Dana, and he was like smiling, and I was like, well, what is this man? And so at this point Anthony is like Adam, I'm going to keep you safe. He has a whole conversation with Adam where he throws you under the bus so hard. I was we were always wondering, like, what is Anthony's endgame plan? And apparently, it was I'm gonna keep track of every everything Dane, has ever said about Adam, and I'm going to tell Adam he like it was like he had the he had the log book out. He was like an Dane would say this about you. And he was betraying you at this point. And he was playing you hear all of this stuff and animals, like like like is he telling you the truth right now, getting played like it was Dane playing me all season long. A lot of crazy stuff going down. I can't wait to see that. I mean, you know, good friends. I mean nothing. Taken personally on games. Yeah. Just goes to show how get is this game. He's very knowledgeable. And he knew he could probably persuade Adam to be making him think that I was against this whole season. And so, but wins the veto and, and basically, this is when you go to Anthony. I've got you, right. And I was like. Here's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. And he lets you know. Not gonna have I was I was pretty heard about that. You know, I never once thought about knock final to that. And then when I really do out of the boat, you know, Mark should a campaign to Adam more than Antony. But when I went up to Anthony, and he kind of gave me that response. Are they all my God toward here? I got to do something about this. I'm on the I'm you wanna tie vote. So, yeah, I kinda kicked my button to gear. That's when I started realizing like, yo I gotta smooth the way that ear. So I was grateful for response scared me a bit. But I just made me realize that, you know you can never take a minute office game. He gotta keep playing every minute every day every hour. Yes. And this was, I think your finest hour in the game here, not, not giving up and making that making that pitch to Anthony in the morning showing him your your calendar. Very, very passionate plea, and it works. You, you, you talked over back to your side. Yeah. I you know. At that time, I was like, I you know, he's still he's, so my boy, I saw his bow, but I'll show them this. But now hearing about it outside the house side, I was about to go, and I did. I'm just so proud that I actually stepped up and did. You know, everything was for real in the house. But like I said at that time. I thought I had is vote. So I really, you know, think that this was such a big move. But apparently, it was and we're be Gallic and I knew what happened tell them he's a big basketball guy. So they Kobe Shaq Shaq needs Colby. Like you need me in this game. And you know, I kind of touched on some heartstrings from him and convince and. You know it's hard to get that got shot off. And when I wanna. The game or he was in a little bit about on. He didn't speak for five minutes. And then I was like, what the hell? I made Anthony shut up for that long. But I was. Fun morning is scary. But you know that's another part of the game where I was like, wow. I actually can can they went I I'm actually painting and a word. Yeah. It was a funny moment. I didn't entire reenactment of your of your whole plea on one in the morning. Let me man, you need me. And shack. They, they always they disagreed, but they won they won't need to be here. Awesome. So, so Anthony's back on board. Then, of course, he talks Akira and cure on boards. Mark wants to take you out here and Kira in Utah to Kira in Kira to feel comfortable and. There you go. Dane is safe. And now the front runner to win this game. Yeah. Read out. I did that felt like okay probably have very chance away in this. Yes. So now all you have to do is. Beat at him. And okay. So here's the thing at the time you were pretty mad at Kira. You were telling people, you even tell them the cameras, like okay. Cure is gone next. And so I was very excited. I was like here we go. Final three it's going to be the strongest final three ever all rights, and, and you beat at them and in the new talk, Anthony like. Good. Do what we go do. Man. I was like, no I know I know vanity game. I know everybody's. Absent the right move, though. Oh, yeah. I know I'm a huge fan of the game. And I knew that odds never really been done where the final three has been so strong but. I get in on kit with Adam, and vinyl three he would have easily won that purrs age part one thing, I've probably would have won second part over Anthony. And then, you know, leaving chance chance for the third part and I know cost me the title. And, you know, the money I'm Ali n money wasn't everything. For me is more winning the show being crowned this seven winter and with him in the way, it'd be a top rotor again to you. So. How what has very emotional episode? You breaking the news to atom I have to matter and that was very difficult. Asked me Crockett out here, then that's. Man, I, I really hurt. He's my boy, and they said he's a fan of the game is dream and felt like I was taking a dream away from them. What will happen to the prettiest final three. I know I know I pumped up so much. Honestly, thought really bad and I'm happy that I had still new finance support, and all team Adams port after that. I did really feel really bad. Yes. All right. So you get to the final three and it's cure and Anthony something that I was talking about. Did you ever consider throwing part one to Anthony so that you could face Kira in part to, because ultimately, when it comes down to it you're going to have to be cure in either part two or part three because there's no way Anthony's winning in part two. And if you get Anthony depart three and you're up against you're guaranteed the win. So did you ever consider throwing par one to Anthony so that you could face Karen partout, or there's a physical component you'd probably have better chance to be them than the purely mental component. Yeah. No that really went through my head 'cause Angie lot. Biggest hit doesn't know too much of the game. So I told him how the vinyl Asia, h word part, once physical endurance one part, you all mental part three's odyssey, although days and me and him had this Gushin's, like, well, maybe Anthony, maybe you should win this one, and I thought about it for very long time even during the competition thing in that. But I didn't wanna leave the chance not playing that part part three or aid. So, you know, I was like, you know, guns. Oh, this one two in share that. I'm in the part three game gains hopefully Anthony about if not Kira. I thought I could be cure any mental competition. So I don't wanna leave the chance at yes, I'm it might have slip up on part, you and Nabi imported three so. Explain that to Anthony. He was not too happy with it, but you know what other do to ensure myself important three and then once I want part, one still pretty cheese. Emmy his new that it'd be tough over him to beat Acura partout, but I try to help them with as much possibly kid. But in the end of it, you can even finish the competition bad, but also would have been a hard one to throw that part one because. Fanta. It's not like you can see that Anthony is about to win because that he could drop at home, and then all of a sudden cure might win. Yeah, that's thing. Right. When my stack belt bursts, and then Anthony, it was almost gonna win and then his stack bells. I like yours get a win the first part like this. Good. So, yeah, I saw that know I'm not gonna leave the chance I was getting keep going if I win, I win Bandini wins he wins. I'm not worried about it. But yeah, the whole goal is for cure, not to impart part, one has also one thing I forgot to bring up at final four. You decided to leave Anthony off the block, and give him his I've never been nominated. What was the reasoning behind that decision? One was to build more trust with him. You know, you deceive me. Kind of like wondering if you take me out it on but to, again, I bring that up in the speech. However, like I never really been nominated as well set Burke, acurity one. Dig me out. And also, like I told you earlier in this podcast, that pretty well is power, eight oh, twelve times and like and to never endanger, so impressed get nominated everybody again. He never had to worry about it. So. I was saying the time that I actually because a lot of people were like, why, why wasn't he nominee, Anthony? Take take that away. But I felt like leaving Anthony. The statistic of never having been nominated would help you in terms of like you can't take Anthony to the end. He's never been nominated. Yeah. Yeah. Did that did not go through my head to I believe that if Kira what of one they'd probably would've brought Anthony but I think that atom would've won on. You would just bring me even though he said he wasn't going to I think he would've brought me rocketing. I do believe that is the case. So ultimately we saw. I was at the taping I saw you win part three against Kira. Uh-huh. Not not do. Well, no. On for going to that challenge. I was Anthony. And I'm like it's going to be something about days and. They're good. They're days. I'm I'll give them that they're very good mental caused, but they're not good under pressure. Pretty big pressure press point. And I knew that they we get either one wrong or get one mistake in the wrong and a student, they got one wrong win. I was in the booth beside them, and I heard them get one wrong and couple bombs came out. And I just knew right away that there you'd be very flustered. And we get more questions wrong now. And Ray Ray when they got the first one wrong thing. They wanna final to be funny at the end there because you that final question where if you got it, right. It didn't even matter if they got it, right. But they, they were talking to Orissa like no, no, I didn't press that button. And you're just like I know I have this, right. So I'm just waiting to celebrate. Yeah. Shot up here. I mean. I I this all this stuff I was studying before that comment there like it was way more detailed than what there is ask. So after the first couple of questions, like, wow, I got this one in the bag. So I was pretty proud of myself at that moment. So you decide to take Anthony and. That was a, you know, for a little while we were like that. That could be a bad decision like Anthony has Cory Anthony has Mark who knows how mad Damian SDR right now. You know how mad will add them be that Dane? Betrayed him. It was looking like maybe it could be a close vote. But when we saw the jury videos really Dan has. Z take Anthony. And as I told you ends up being not even an okay decision, but the correct decision because Anthony told me he would have voted for Kira. If you'd cut him. So. Was there ever a moment that you thought like cures the easy win? I should. I should just take this. Yeah. I resent I knew that bring cured volunteer was almost giving me the title of the season. But again, it actually happened and week two on go for it. Mackey told me that I earn this power. So this whole season, I was like, I don't want anything given to me. I want everything beer. And, and, you know, I actually all my case. Oh, bring Anthony ruin call me even legendary move and sorry my dog one in the back. Yeah. No, I didn't think it'd be now but you know, now looking back over it. Yeah. I knew the win regardless of who are brought because of the dominance in the later half of the game. But everyone came up to me shook my hand all jury members were shot that I brought Anthony. But they said that if I would've brought Anthony, they're probably gigging me vote because, you know, that's legendary move. And I just wanted I wasn't thinking that way, I was thinking more loyalty over money. But it worked favor. And now talking to all the alumni, they're all like we believe you brought Antonio Rick here. Again, they late my reasoning I didn't want nothing. Give it to me. I want to earn this, this big theory, and we're doubt, bigtime my favorite. So, yeah, they go you win the season. I summer of your game here you dominated the game. You rarely rarely targeted and rarely in a position where you even could have gone home. If you were targeted always knew when it was safest to throw h wages and vetoes to downplay your competition strength. I think is very key in the game. But you also would play up your strength to the people who sees it as an asset which was very good. Always voted correctly apart from Asti. But the counseling Damian to do. You're all you almost always working with more than half the house at any given time always had the most allies said, the most cutthroat I the most willing to lie to get ahead in the game. And I really admire that from that standpoint, appreciate that. Yeah. I knew that being a little bit like cut throaty ish that you still need to again. They might game really flourish and week one. I made genuine social relations with everyone made them all with me. And then when it was time to cut them, they still love me because, you know, they love my personality, my going this, and I really took the time to listen to their stories and really connect with their with their personal level issues and some people, you know, not so much. They didn't give them time and day. So I really gave everyone, you know, my full attention whereas listening to them and. I think that helped me out down the road and you always the diplomat, and we talked about this, but like playing the middle not being forcible about what you wanted biding your time waiting until you wanted Sam out for the longest time. And, and you just constantly would not get your way a lot of players they crumble in the face of that. They really want to get their way they get very upset. They try to force it. And even if they do end up getting their way, sometimes it's, it's not the best thing either makes them a target or a pisses people off. But you you'd always be like, all right. You know, that's, that's fine. That's fine. I'm totally you. I'll wait until later, and I feel like that was another report of why the jury ended up staying on board with you over even somebody like Anthony. And I can tell you, Anthony played a remarkable game what he was able to do was insane. And. And you know if he had won the game if he had won unanimously we will Anthony won the best players we've ever seen as well. But, but, but you had to be I do think that a large part of, that is, is that diplomat kind of thing where Anthony was more forceful. He was more like I wanna make sure I get my way always, which is impressive in the moment. But yeah, the jury has also been part of that. And the jury didn't like that as much. And they also of course didn't like the fact that he couldn't win competitions. There's a big part of it as well. Yeah. And he likes to take the reins be leader. Get his way. And I knew that was gonna work against them down the road, and he had the comps on. It's always vote cost by mean to do soul. Portland calms you know, the, the part two when he didn't finish the video game he didn't finish was on with that. Steward is situation, you just kinda give up. And I knew that the jury would take that into consideration as well. So. All all on a great time. Already miss it. I missed the competitions. I miss my boys. I miss, I miss all my house guests. People ask me about whatever duty and has them best life. I don't think I would you so well this time around but, but no question about it. If, if there was ever opportunity go back into the house, and if they ever wanted me back. There would be no question. No hesitation. I'd be back in that house, trying to do as best fun to see you, try. I said, I said last night on our wrap up podcast that I feel like you. You're in a position where if you did go back, and you did very well that you have the opportunity to, to enter that top top top tier did. If you did. I can't get his damn yet 'cause he's done. Yeah. There's a few people have done it twice. And then done. Good. I would never dealt myself, how I read it would be a lot more. A lot more hurdles to jump over. But I think I could do it maybe not not win by they pretty far and you know. All vote those personal relationships and making them of this small refund to watch try. Hope we hope we have that opportunity at some point, but I've taken up far too much of your time. Pleasure being on here is nice talking to you again. And whenever you like talk shumita Email another Skype. Absolutely. We'll definitely have you on to talk about next season. And we can also we can talk about your life at some point. Another podcast, very talk about people's lives. I'm all open to discussing that and you're good guy. And I appreciate all the support of the season and all the kind words leaving that house. Trust me, top to leave the house without knowing to you too much of the outside world, and how they felt but you guys kind of brought to light that was wall light and I appreciate that problem. It's always talked to a lot of people like house Gus now, I know even even when you're the winner, even when you win unanimously, great like it's, it's a tough transition. And a lot of people don't see that when, when they're watching the show, and they want everybody wants a piece of you and it can be hard. So I try my best to to be there. You don. Great job man again. Thank you for covering soul season and supporting supporting myself and all the houseguests much pre shaded. I'm sure towards everyone. So again, thank you. And whenever you watch out again, maybe I'm here. Good. And of course, feel feel free to reach out if you ever want to talk about anything. So I'm sure all right. That's what we have. Thank you so much. Dan for for taking the time. I don't even want to tell you, we've been talking for over two and a half hours. All right, man. It's, it's fun. Talk about. Experiences. Like I said, I'd miss it so much. I can't wait to watch. Like you said, I really wish I was still house. But maybe one day, maybe one day, you'll see me, and then I can tell you, I did a poll for the podcast last night. Where does Dane rank as a big brother Canada winter about sixty percent say best winter best? When Canada, let's see I you know, I ruined been such so an ice lovely the words and the kind words and how much I deserve that. I appreciate does. Well, and again, I never consider myself, they're alleging category. But had a blast doing. It had so much fun. And goes Jody pays onto be fan of the show, and now being a part of this experience. Jimmy really appreciate everything about this show and just to be such an advocate for it. Yes. And I love, I love what I think this season and you as a winner. Like I think it's all going to be very great for the show's legacy for the history of the show. I think this is a cornerstone moment for the show. There were, there were people that sometimes people don't like when one side is dominating a lot. I enjoyed it and I think that I think that now that this season is over people are already starting to feel like you know what? That was that ended very strong. We're very happy with the winner, and I do think that it really contributes to the, the shows history. So lots lots of good things, I think about seven of the show. So once again, thank you, and thank you to all of the listeners. I hope you enjoyed this, this long podcast with Dame over his game, I will be speaking with Anthony soon as well. We're going to talk to Anthony about his game that should be interesting. I wanna talk to Anthony about his manipulation skills in tactics that should be fun. But, but for now that's what I've got Dane. Where can people find you if they want to find you on social media or whatever? Right now, I have my grandma up at Princeton Glowna. And then I also I would Twitter set up. Bb Ken dean seven I think it is sorry to make sure that I just caught back into the real world. So it's been a time here all support, yet, deigned BB can seven for my Twitter. And I'm also on Facebook as well at Dane, Rupert and van as well. So you guys want check that out. Give me a follow. I'll show you what's life like in cool on. If you're ever this way, man, let me know how some fun down here men. That's beautiful weather. It's, it's a paradise city and his happy to. Representative Colona and a west coast and Canada and everything. And now big relegated up early. Emily. Just so honored to go. All right. So thank you. Thank you, once again, everyone doing for joining us, you can find me on Twitter at Armstrong, Taryn, and on Instagram Taryn underscore Armstrong and plead poster Toronto pictures there. New to Instagram still learning. But you can find there and yeah, thanks. Thanks for hanging out. And I'll see you guys next time.

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Podcast (07-10-19)

Boomer & Gio

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Podcast (07-10-19)

"Boomer and Gio on the fan and the C._B._S. sports network live from the Investors Bank studio boomer assize in Greg Jian Auntie boomer and Geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on C._B._S.. Sports network work good Wednesday morning. That's right it is Wednesday. We had a couple of days off when you have a couple of days off in the summer. Sometimes you forget what day it is but it is Wednesday and for those of you who are back at work going to work glide goes welcome back a tremendous holiday. I know we did and a bunch of stuff happened while we were away. Yeah the All Star Game Great Pita Lonzo you gotTa feel great for him. There's is no doubt that the homerun Derby winning homerun derby a million dollars to beat Alonzo that was awesome the fact that he gets to R._B._I.. Single in the All Star game that is awesome. Obviously the mets have huge problems but you forgot about that for a couple of days and you enjoy that all star game performance by being Alonzo and also the N._B._A.. Keeps churning the summer league everybody with their overreactions with that the WHO the Knicks are going design who they're going to trade for not trade for Reggie Bullock series not here. It's Marcus Morris who really cares who these free agents are because they're not going to be good for a couple of years. There's one the thing that they can't do and that's going make a stupid trade. They resisted with Anthony Davis. They resisted with Chris. Paul looks like they're going to resist with Russell Westbrook and build this thing slowly the right way and not trade away a bunch of assets for a guy in his thirty's that might not be able to play the same anymore. BOOMER is here. We're the hell Izzy I told Bob to just let it go to see how long longer album immediately the open roll run out there and he's finally decided to come back from vacation. Two minutes and thirty seconds can't hear rumors fall so who was chewing your ear off and and <hes> you know what I actually forgot we show I'm sorry man. Nobody's other Mir two of my ear sitting you were just sitting back there by computer time and he kept saying you know said finally seven all right. I got about seventy eight minutes. That's and <hes> so sitting there looking at your computer not paying attention to minutes. I mean I could see the thing was I was like all right. I can do a solo show like I'll go ahead and do good enough to do. I would have no it's not it's not that it's just that I could have done it in the past star. You're doing so I could have done it but then I said but wait a second boomers. GonNa WanNa talk about the same stuff I want to tell you. I don't know where he wants to start on what to do now so I have to now. Call him out for being two and a half minutes. That's fine you can you can call me out. I wasn't easiest thing in order to get up this morning. Either yeah sitting there watching the computer not paying attention to kind of like must've show yes. You're you're exactly right thank you. I appreciate that good to have you back to us. Well man you know what the I wake up is actually not that bad for me. It's the second one so after a few days off that first one 'cause I've gotten enough rest. Whatever I wake up? I'm ready to go on my mind's on work. It's the second one it's the back to back. I'm like all right now. We're in this routine again right now. I'm no longer sleeping but it's fine. It's great. I hope data a good time off did you did you not really doesn't look like you did no came back you. The only guy take vacation in July comes back paler about sleep about that yet will yet do it was about time you had the old wedding you stop and everything else and the stress and this and that you've lying around doing a ton of stuff so you slept. Yes it did right so yeah and then like I said it was a little tough getting up this morning. So I'm here and I'm happy to be here with you and a a lot of stuff took place while we were gone detailed in the two and a half minutes. You weren't in the store every little thing that we actually went through every so I talked about the mets and Peter Lonzo and homerun Derby in the the all star in two minutes <hes> all the N._B._A.. Stuff off I did that the women's World Cup I actually I thanked everybody on the roster tire Ross and their families but I left out one thing because I knew this would be your thing. This is from a few days ago and I did my thing. This is something that I knew that you were going to get really really ticked off about. When I saw this I just I just knew that you would Kim like I'm loosen my my microphone here? Kim Jones who was sitting in his shoes van. Thanks for Kim and Jerry to sit in for us and everything but I feel like she loosened the well she might have possible. You just broke. I just broken. You just broke the whole piece I just did. It just broke yeah. You're one of these guys just like you think that like your brute strength rank the way to go in that spot. Sometimes it is now. I feel like my monitors in the in the proper places and I feel like my microphone and microphone bar is now sturdy enough to get the show on Iraq Accu perfect glad that everything is exactly the way you'd like it <hes> but the the one thing that I left out because of a few days ago and I really wanted you to say on this okay is Brody van wagon and his furniture chucking our in that meeting and brody you know first of all it would be really hard for me as a manager or coach I'd say Riggleman or one of those guys to take brody seriously only if he walks in there and he throws chair like that was reported. I'd be like what is this. What is this dope doing and I would pick up the chair and I throw it back at them and I'd say I listen to me? Here's why I'm throwing the chair back at you. You're thinking in me as a coach is not getting the best out of our players prop. Most likely you're probably pointing to the bullpen but let me also tell you Mr van wagon and Mr First-year G. M. Mr like come get us. This is what you've given to me to work with. I got a first baseman playing left field. I got a center fielder playing shortstop. I got a center fielder that can hit. I got a second baseman that can't move to his right or his left the way used to and he's not hitting. I have the Catcher who you brought in here. Who's actually been pretty good offensively but might your top two pitchers? Don't WanNa pitch to them so let me explain something you when you're constructing a roster as I throw the chair back at you you dumb ass and tell oh you that this is how the team has got to be built and I would say right now. As I think of this right down I told you this before we left and I'm going to stick to it right now that if they got any set of balls and stones over there in flushing they would do whatever it takes to rebuild this team because the third basements not going to be here. They're shortstop couldn't be moved the centerfield their second basement is horrendous that D. H. is not coming to the National League most likely into two two thousand and twenty two well after his contract is over and at the end of the day your second Baseman is playing right field when you right fielder should be when he should be playing second base and you're left fielder should be playing right. Field Open is the word sports and on top of the bullpen has been an unmitigated disaster so when you have guys playing out of position and your defense suffers from it the bullpen suffers from it the starting pitching suffers from it. He has some mm set of you know what's to stand up and throw a chair in a meeting yeah the first thing I thought of when I heard this story is everybody hates his guts because this is now the second time that something that shouldn't have come out has come out from an instance where he he has been the perpetrator if you will it might be strong language. Would you know what I'm saying that whether it was the calling into the bullpen thing with the into the dugout rather with the trainer and get into Graham out of there and then this I mean this thing hit the beat writers immediately but think about this Joe just just jeff meals should be playing second base. He's not going to be playing second base because they have so much money. Invested in Robinson connotes wholly constructed roster. So where did they put them. They put them in the outfield. Dom Smith WHO's finally matured in woken up should be playing first based but he's not going to play first base because obviously we have an all star Peter Lonzo playing first base. So where are you going to play him in the National League. Oh let's put him in left field where the adventure starts just like Daniel Murphy started out my field. You know like where's the ball. I mean not not all of this. You got to remember not all of this broadband. I I understand that but he's got a lot of faults in the the biggest is is that Wendy as Robinson deal and Jed Lowrie. Those are the big what about the fact that you now have your top two pitchers and Syndergaard Guard in one and throw to NATO not to Rav that's and that's a big problem because Wilson Ramos was abroad Van Wagon and signing what what is what is the issue with Rosario going into center field and what has happened to one Lagaras well and then he was counting on him than nuts. Well you have to be your gold glove. Center fielder told you hear the so this is one of the worst defensive teams metric wise that there isn't baseball your and that's and that's part of why I don't buy into and I know Mickey has to say this and I know the players have to say this and I would be saying the same thing have if I were wearing their uniforms and I was walking their shoes that is look. We can still get ourselves back into this. We believe in ourselves. We have a good team. I'm here in Oz. Have you ever hey a malfunctioning dysfunction team where players are playing out of position and it's it's you have young players. You can build around now. The question is what do you do. You Know Todd taught frazier if they decided to try to. He's not going to go on a lot but the guys that would garner a lot is wheeler syndergaard and degrom now. I advocated talking about and thinking about degrom last year. I started that here to the Yankees degrom donkeys Yankees. I'm not saying that but what I am saying is that if you if you make it apparent and aware that all three of these pictures are available depending on what the price is you get back. You have to look at it. You have to look at somewhere going enquiring a young third baseman Yu although all-stars last night all the young players that are all over the place and it's the most ever ever first-time all-stars you're right right and how about how about the Houston Astros three guys out in the outfield all backed up at the same time right pretty awesome br Brantley was great going back with the Indians. He's not a young guys older guy but that's how you have to build a team and you have to look at your assets and I and I like it too okay. Here's a kind of a weird hockey reference again. <hes> The New York Rangers went to their fan base <hes> eighteen months ago and said look man we're done. This team is not going to go anywhere. You know. We're not fooling ourselves. We're not doing you as fans. We have to rebuild. We have to restart. We have to start acquiring hiring assets after young players at eighteen months later I sit here and just amazement as to what they have already accomplished not expecting to win that cup next year but they're going to be fun to watch. They're going to be fast. They're going to be young and now they have assets the trade and then you go out and you add the one free agent. You spend a lot of money on and you bring a guy in here was twenty seven years old. WHO's in the middle of his prime parent? That's what the ranger what the Rangers have done. That's what the mets have got the trial I believe the try to emulate and to do that you have to bear the brunt of trading some very popular players. You'RE GONNA suck it up well. Those players will bring back to you. What I believe is players that can actually play the positions that you're trading for yeah? I understand but Jacob Jacob degrom being traded is something that is not going to happen nor should it now. If you want to. Tell me exactly what you're GONNA get traded yeah of course the guys at the end of his contract. He's going to be a rental for a team. That's looking for a starting pitcher so he'll go noah syndergaard. I mean we've been talking about that now for. I don't oh how long and it seems like there's been a little bit of truth to those rumors and I wouldn't be surprised if that were the bold move but here's the thing that you're forgetting in this and maybe it's in the back of your mind. This what you want the mets to do and it's not what you think that they will do is that brody even wagon does not seem like the type of guy that is ready to throw in the towel and I think that when Mickey callaway says the stuff that he says about look at the nationals go on that run you tell me that's what the Mandra say I agree but I also think that when he's saying that because he thinks that's what the general manager wants to hear because that's how the general manager things and I said this before we left on July third. I said one of my biggest fears for the mets is that brody with this team is rookie season as a G._M.. This esteem that he constructed he will not want to give up on and they'll go out and they'll buy players at the deadline as opposed to go out and sell players because he looks at what the nationals dead he looks at the wildcard he looks at this team and thinks well all of these things could happen. We're GONNA regress the mean and we're going to be better and he's going to screw them even worse and that I think we're on the president. The amazing thing to me is gio is that this rookie general manager had no idea what he was talking about when the season started none absolutely absolutely none because he's agent I that he's a player's Guy I so he is going to look at his players. Though this guy is great guys great and just goes to show you how many times agents have screwed over general managers at general managers have lost lost their jobs because the agent has sold the general manager of bill good sure that turn out to be crap and that's why I say you have to be ruthless so now my next general manager on that list of you know making bold moves doing bold things and in trying to change the fortunes of his franchise is who you're going to have to tell me boomer that would be Dave gettleman yeah. You could say what you want about Dave gettleman but I'll tell you one thing that guy is the the guy is confident. The guy is secure. The guy is making you know well. He he speaks from a wealth of I would say experience and he is trying to rebuild the New York giants and they had a trade Odell Beckham Junior. You think that was popular mall of course it was I mean it was popular with the older giant fans and the younger giant fans hated. I'm for it. I mean I yes. There are those ruthless times that had happened but the mets the mets at this stage. There's only a couple of guys that you would say sort of fit that mold of what you're asking for and that I would tell you the three pitchers I that the three has got to be there. They're not trained. Not I'm not advocating it and less on less what I get back is such a significant return. We're not that I could fill for that. I could three <hes> I can fill three positions on the field that maybe I maybe a young reliever. I don't know you gotTa toss out. You want to talk to me about Cindy. I am telling you everything is on the table. Everything has to be on the taste. Show I mean maybe in your eyes are going ended up letting go of Eli Manning. After this year you know finally got him to this point where you know and he'll go out there. You'll be motivated. He'll play hard and everything else but you don't draft the kid number six to have him sit on the bench for three years not in this N._F._l.. That could have been done back with Brett farve and and and Aaron Rodgers many many years ago but not in this N._F._l.. The money is too big. The pressures too much and eventually Jones is going to be handed the job whether he's worth it or not or whether he's good ended up to take over for what he did here who knows but ultimately there has to be a decision that is made that you've got to cut bait and move forward now the question that I would ask you that I would have a problem with. Is this Guy Brodie van wagon and good enough to do that does he does he have what it takes to manipulate the trademark it the way that this thing is going to be set out here now over the next two weeks. I'll tell you what there's more pressure right now on the Yankees and and the red sox because you know both of those fan bases expect a world series multiple sure and that's why you gotta start playing each other when either these both of these things off of each other and I think that the twins are going to be in the mix. <hes> you know to make a big move I just I'm just saying now maybe the time where it is apparent to rip it apart and start over and start getting the right people in here playing the right positions. It's unbelievable. How many the players are playing out of position? It starts with this trade deadline and the mets will have a couple of weeks in July before the only trade deadline July thirty first if they play a hint of a bit better than what they've played. I'm I am afraid to Brodie van wagon and it's going to go out and be a buyer like what was it two thousand and four I want to say that's what I think he's going to do. He's going to go out and be a buyer I if they get within like five games under five hundred four games under five hundred I could see him going out and getting relievers. I'm serious. I really think that he's that's the way he's going to look at this thing. What was it a couple of those to the Kazimierz Brana deal remember that year two thousand four it was like the mets bought with those guys and was like what the hell are they doing because they're out of it? I just I don't know that that that is my fear with Brody van y they opened on the road here in the second half okay and obviously they start on Friday got three of Miami to in Minnesota four and San Francisco Cisco and then they come home. I've just said we've looked at the schedule up and down. It doesn't always play out the way we think it is a day. I'm telling you they win like four or five in a row or something like that seven out of nine. Just watch just watch what I'll do and see. I told you anything is possible. This is what dreams are made of miracle in the making this is this is not a coincidence that this is the fifty year anniversary of the miracle met. This is miracle mets number two. I know something from Your Lips to God's ears if that ever happened and it's not pretending to be broken from his lips to God's ears but you have to be realistic you have to you just have to be realistic and you know if you want it you want to say what does the trade deadline July thirty first thirty first okay you want to go until say I don't know July twenty fifth. When you have your third home game against the San Diego Padres and see how you've done in the the beginning part of the second half year yeah all right? I'll give you that if somehow they go out and seven three or something like that I could see then. All of a sudden started feeling better about themselves but you gotta be realistic. The Rangers traded their captain for God's sake. They traded Derek step on he when they traded <hes> Miller said they created three guys that were right in the middle of their prime and they got a great return for them. You know they they traded Kevin Hayes in his prime. We decide to big deal with the flyers they got something in return for him. Look at with cattleman stone get them and ship guys in and Outta here and he's trying to rebuild the team and I think He's rebuilt an offensive line but you question about the playmaking ability now of of the of the skill players around Eli Manning and is going to be all Saquon Barkley what the jets have done. I mean Christopher Johnson say what you want you know. He was ruthless because he he knew that the coach was basically a dead man. Walking when Todd Bowles was here and the and the personality was not going to be what he wanted and then he bought into the general managers plan and then when he watched the general manager work with his new coach he said you know what we've got to get rid of this guy. This is not going to work and he made a very tough decision at a very tough point in time those those now it could go one way or the other I think he got the right guide Joe Douglas but I also think that he had the guts to do it not easy. I know you like comparing these situations. I don't think there's a lot of similarities here just because I don't think there's a lot of moves that you can make that are going to shake this thing totally up you know I I don't think trading trading degrom is something that's going to happen. Noah syndergaard would be the guy that would be the guy that I think would signify that they are moving in a different direction and trading away guy with years of control and trying to get phil other roster holes because you can blow this entire thing hang up nor I think you should blow the entire thing up. You have a color of young good player but how many guys how many guys you have playing out of position. It's a poorly constructed roster. Yes yes. It's all that's what happens and Dom Smith would be worth something on on the open market. I believe I mean he was he would be a guy that I would consider trading depending what I could get back for him. So I mean every I would just say if I were the general manager of the mets given where we are what's going on. I would give it a couple of weeks see how they come out of there but if they stay where they are and they don't move a bit and they're not getting better in there making the same defensive errors. The bullpen keeps sucking Layton Games. I'm telling you right now for me. Everybody is on the table and I have got the rebuild. This roster and I gotta do what used the did. The Way Houston did look what Minnesota did NATO completely I mean they did you know you do have assets that you can get quality young players back and that's that's where Omar Mugniyah and you know all the scouts that are out there you know looking at these young guys so advise especially advisors everywhere else get just Jessica Mendoza in here and ask her about some things I mean. I don't know what but you gotta do something. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo Jerry RECCO is here with us. Did you miss US jared sure night probably not today. That's okay I wouldn't expect you. Just say hey I missed you. I felt good seeing this morning. I feel like Eddie missed us what he was gone for a week though yeah I know I hadn't seen in a long time and we had like <hes> at a moment of like it's really good to see the same thing with bobby at moments really good to see it yeah with you. It didn't have that Marlin. I don't know why what was going on that long. Though I guess we've seen we hadn't seen that since the wedding so it's been a week and a half a week and a half no no with me and you a week wasn't he was Wednesday to Wednesday. That's right think about a Wednesday the third Wednesday the tenth man. I didn't feel like it to be honest. It did feel like no it didn't because what the mid week vacation the mid week vacation a little different yeah I of course I know when you take off that Friday. Don't come back to that following Monday. It's like like that person never existed any something like that. Yes wow you're still around. You won't see alto next Tuesday or Wednesday. I've totally forgotten about him. He tweets a lot with no while he's on vacation where she does. I don't understand why he does that. Why is he thinking us while he's on vacation? I mean no but quite honestly so he just he tweeted out this picture of this giant Super Yacht and said that you know boomer. This is the perfect boat for Geo here in Italy. It's more of the perfect for me. The thing is insane. I mean that's got to be seven eight million dollar. Yacht that thing it's just that I don't know man I guarantee you. It's more than that. You think that it's like we're talking fifteen boulevard into twenty five million really I a key. I can't remember what the guts of it is. I don't really know the footage of that thing talking me. I would say that looks like is that a seventy five foot yacht five foot eight foot yacht say twenty north of twenty million. I wish I knew the maker they might be an adamant. That's very very popular boat. Yeah I mean I see I'm not really looking. I'm not in the market for one of those. I don't really know the price on them but he's tweeting this stuff out like me. When I'm on vacation or off the grid Yeah Yeah Yeah? I'm actually feel for him like it's no no. He lives for this. He's an intention or even on vacation. Help himself likes likes game pugh. Oh Wow you know alice still around and you know he's going to remind mind people unbelievable. You're not like that or you Jerry on vacation. You're going to see something cool. I will post a FO yeah. I mean I would have done something like that. That was a neat boat. Yeah I mean it is but it's like sea boat right there. No that's not very close though it was one of those in Sag harbor actually right now one of those things there's a ton of them out there yeah but that like exact one inning all that gold thing one of those yachts. I've just I just saw the thing is like off the charts. I think there's a dealer out there actually actually where it sells those things but I just to me I would take that picture I hold onto it and then I show the person I've I saw something. That made me think a you. I'd take the picture when I came back into work but <hes> well guess what I saw but it wasn't about boomer or use it was asking attention attention all right about now. I totally admit that right. He enjoys it. Okay all right. That's why enjoys everybody's different. you think he's sipping wine and eaten like he hasn't had a drink in five months but you don't think he's on vacation have a little wine. I don't think I don't think so I can this little Italian village watering. She's what do you think he's doing in the Italian dog that was part of his social media posts. You never know what he's doing. Yeah you tease out some cheese shop or something he met. A dog did Ritchie shop. He was at a cheese shop. Eat Meat Dogs. He's probably at the point now where he's just thinking about getting home probably obsessing over the fact that he's got to go through the airport where nobody speaks English yes. I didn't realize he got off the plane and then had to take a three hour train right yeah. He was going from Jesus himself Magic Genie Look. It's easy to get on the train. Don't worry he was by himself. No I know that she was probably telling you explaining explaining to him how to do all this. What a nightmare air? What a nightmare? All Right Jerry is here. He's got a couple of things to tell you about bananas one of those slow weeks. They say in sports one of those slower weeks so what he thought we talk a lot of balls. You've talked a lot. We're brought to you by the Ray Catena Auto Group schedule an appointment today to write Katina's Service Center First Class Service at affordable prices. We have the All Star game shore. The American League beat the National League for him the planning highlights because you can't hear them <hes> the crowd was so loud but there were some things that were kind of cool throughout the course course of the broadcast on Fox and that was the players being liked up like Freddy Freeman his first at bat against just inver lender certainly a different way to look at things. All that was unfair why hi guys it was a strike and a pitcher so fair wow so not only was he miked up. We also had the earpiece in and he was able to talk to Buchan smoltz in the booth that was kind of neat. Actually Justin verlander striking out there in the first inning here was Freeman afterwards talked about you know having the microphone and having the earpiece in talking to him at the same time very very difficult swing a pitch of that so I was so much fun and a lot of fun shore here's Ver- lander just intern he made headlines with baseball thing in M._l._b.. Doctoring it they own Rawlings Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah in terms of last night though he says all star game it never gets old. It's a lot of fun so once I got out there and start warming up got into a little bit of my routine is still like it was like two or three strikes total so I was just glad I was found strikes. It strikes me actually through a couple pitches around ninety seven miles an hour but he could still ramp it up. You know the interesting thing about this whole ball debate. Did you see all the bats last night there anything but Your Your Dad's Louisville slugger much lighter there'll be they're all they all have like color or coating to them and nobody's breaking bats anymore. I think I'm thinking that the ball's yes probably are as much a culprit of as anything else. Maybe maybe maybe it is as John's multiple saying last night the launch angles guys are always swinging for the fences the speed of the pitches I don't know but the bats also have to be in the discussion. I think is a lot of adult like coated yeah. There's a lot of factors go into it but when the commissioner basically comes out and says that the ball's traveling differently and there might be something to that everybody's going to gravitate to it and he did rob Manfred entered those questions it said he's got scientists looking at the balls and he said they've done nothing to alter her the baseball they did and they had meetings about it. It would be out. He also said the owners. Don't one all this offense. I'm just telling you what he said. The more home runs. You hit the more money you get paid right. I drew yes but there's more money you can make as a sport sport too if you think that it generates more interest now I don't believe that it does but others do that. More home runs more fans people watching in my opinion. It's become a great highlight sport. If that makes any sense yeah thank you you really interested in the condensed game and the highlights but for people to sit there and watch home run or strike out his boring while they do have a homerun Derby yes and that caught the fancy very this year and everybody <hes> lauded how good it was and how much effort the players put into the interesting thing will be willing to say whether or not Guerrero Junior and Peter Lonzo slowdown here in the second half because all the energy that they they put out there and hit all those home runs hope not Alonzo to two. She run single last night. You had Jacob degrom a one two. Three seven pitch third here was degrom. This has been a lot of fun <hes> last night watching <hes> compete in the home run Derby and went in the whole thing <hes> it's been a lot of fun and Pete is Alonzo Amazing Forty eight hours for him <hes> man I I. I was walking on clouds today yesterday and today I'm just I'm just so so dang happy about that kid. He gets it man you know he so he gave a portion of his winnings to the wounded warriors ears and tunnels towers foundations and that's a kid who gets it and he doubled his salary or triple this hour I guess five hundred to a million right okay yes so he doubled his salary and he gave a portion of that away to different charities hardy's locally here and I think that's pretty cool. No of course I mean you think about the mets having a guy like this that you know we can talk about glowingly a position player. WHO's a homegrown guy? I mean it doesn't happen a lot. Yeah you had right and raise many years years ago. Those careers worked out in different ways. Obviously David Wright one of the great mets but I mean it doesn't happen a lot so the fact that we might be on the precipice of having one of these guys for a really long time was his likable as Pita Lonzo. I mean that's just that's a silver lining in a season. That's gone to hell job. I Sandy Alderson. y'All yes sure Masahiro Tanaka through the second inning he was the pitcher of record got the winner. All this Chapman strikes out the side of the ninth earned the Save Cleveland Shane Beaver wins the M._v._p.. <hes> we mentioned the rob Manfred Stove there's some N._B._A.. News of Interest Adam Silver met the media. I think it was in Las Vegas but I'm not sure what Summer League either way he did talk to the media not a fan of players wanting out of their current situation and you know without getting into any specific circumstances. Trade demands are disheartening there disheartening to the team they're disheartening to the community and don't serve the player well stars Roger Goodell just about the same wasn't cadel. Oh same way that he spoke the same inflection sound just he's allowed his players to take over his league and that's exactly what's happened. He says if you sign somewhere then play there I mean you have a contract and it needs to be meaningful on both aside and then the last one he says maybe it is time to revise the free agency role. I think it's pointless at the end day to have rules that we can't enforce. I think it hurts the perception of integrity around the league. If people say well you have that rule so and it's obvious the teams aren't fully complying. So why do you have it sounds like Congress a little bit. Here's WHO's interesting one from Sean marks now. This goes back to the free agency thing. We've talked about how it's six. o'clock on. The day of the announcement was putting everything out at like at four o'clock right yeah but every at six o'clock it were like rapid fire. This guy's going here he son here. WHO's son in here and you talk about how these things are negotiated or not? Hear was Sean Marks. How did you find out that Katie was coming to Brooklyn the Instagram Post that he put out? That's the we were all sitting in the office and we'll got that in real time with you guys we. We weren't even sure if we were getting a meeting that night or <hes> it was gonna be telephone conversation with them and this goes to what you say. They basically basically dictate where they go. What you're GONNA pay but will choose you? It's amazing and you know good for the players. I mean you know they they've created this kind of environment with their power and with their leverage and they're the stars and David Stern way back when made Michael Jordan Magic Johnson Larry Bird had whole group they were the stars they were the ones that they were selling to the public and it's it's just continued to grow all the way to the point now or all a lot of these players are making you know four million dollars you know so it's good for everybody though it really is I mean there's certain franchises that gets screwed for sure I mean you look at the Pelicans but they were able to rebuild relatively quickly with some luck in the lottery but what's going on the N._B._A.. Right now I think is good for the one area where you don't have to worry about equal pay because everybody's getting paid sure getting paid a lot one of the thing <hes> a couple of things Marcus Morris might back out of his two year deal with the Spurs to sign with the Knicks. How about about that sports wants to come to the Knicks? It seems like it yeah and the Golden State Warriors are going Wave Shaun Livingston and I know you guys were out now. We talked about it Monday. Did did you see on Williamson. Just humiliate Kevin Knox just rip the ball away from and dumped in his face and then I think he formed when he I think he cropped us that a man just add some injury was wrong many banged his name now. He's done for the summer so yes. I'm sure it's going to hurt you by watching our guy so I watch a lot of this sliced troubled by. Maybe a little soft them. Just Oh my God you know Summer League game a half that was cut short with a class I wanted to see it up close and personal because teams that he is the League and Scouts of said he's not as good as we thought to have you do you like Bresnik is so far bay for Michigan. Yeah bad confident kid men's quarters at Wimbledon today <hes> of of note you've got Sam Corey and Raphael the Dow playing and yes. You have the parade in New York City for the U._S.. Women's soccer team. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Gianotti boomer and Geo Yeah so we've got a parade. A little bit later in the city. Canyon appear owes for the U._S._A.. Women's national team that won the World Cup backed up all the talks. That's a cool thing and congratulations to them. You See Meghan Piano and Alex Morgan everywhere doing the media as they bask in the glow of what was a tremendous victory very very cool for them. I love the fact that you know there are other people whether it's Canada or England a hate non them all this current too many goals. Oh they're celebrating too much all a little sip of the tea up yours. We came in there and smack your around and now we're GONNA put on an exorbitant in the world's greatest city so everybody can go screw what they have done. They have inspired others just a C._B._S.. Sportsman on they have inspired other countries to go after them sure man I really they've closed the gap Francis. Good Nerlens is good. Germany as good England is good. You know the the women have dominated the world stage now pretty consistently and that there's that whole gender pay gap thing and everything else. You know I think U._S.. Soccer should pay the women what the men make especially because of their success now is concerned. That's a different situation because as the men's the men's World Cup generate six billion dollars it's it's far more popular and there's more prize money to be won but when you take a look at the amount of percentage of money that one by the women for the amount of money that they generate it's so much more than the men you know so the percentages are higher. The numbers may be lower but they get they get more of a prize money than the men do in terms of the <hes> the percentages of it all so there's an argument to be had on both sides but for me I think <hes> you know the previous. Women's teams have inspired so many young kids to play soccer including my own daughter sure Brandy chastain ninety nine yeah so my daughter was seven years old. I remember watching every single one of their games that she was in the middle of playing soccer at that moment in her life and she loved it and she took so much pride in watching those women play the way that they responded and how physical the Games <unk> are and how entertaining they are and I would sit here and say as somebody who sat there with my daughter and watched her react to those women. These women have had the same impact on the country that those women had yeah absolutely so they will celebrate today got. Did I have a couple of them on. Instagram Morgan is enjoying the hell out of her time to saint tell to up there at the top and join them say that's all it rides in the Hudson. Victor goes the spoils. I will say that when the international soccer community it only took them three weeks to piss everybody off is great. That was quicker than Donald Trump. When you can win in that fashion you can win in that fashion? I think that is the best way to do it. I mean I know that when you lose and you were acting that way there's more people will come after you but when you win in that way I think that is the most satisfactory there is no question that they put a target on their backs sure backed it up of of course they did and that and that is the beauty of it they finished the story and not only did they finish it. I mean they did it. In dramatic fashion you know and and the amazing thing is if you really watch those how physical those games so I got no I know I mean I think that you know we don't talk a lot of soccer. Watch on the soccer so when you do watch it you forget about the amount of athleticism it takes to do what they do with that high of a level and have that much success speaking of equal pay maybe Nike should pay the women more money because they saw Jersey that they've sold Nike said they have never sold as many jerseys as they did this time around so eight give them more money your money than you know. Negotiate a little bit better of a cut for sure all right so another thing that happened while we were away was the Kawhi Leonard Decision and of course the big surprise with that was Paul George also joining Leonard Out in L._A.. With the clippers and the draft pick compensation that went back which is just enormous and it's unprecedented impressive George which Paul George George was great. I'm not saying he's not a great player but it's Paul George. I mean it's not like it's not quite Leonard. It's not steph curry. It's not Kevin Durant. It's not Lebron James. Paul George was a top five player last year airman Paul George. Where did he end up in the M._V._p.? Voting <hes> he was up there he he had he had a better year than Westbrook did last year on that same and he's making a lot of money and quiet Leonard Force. This is basically what happened sure because Kawhi Leonard Basically said the clippers I'll come to you and by the way he also had the rob. Raptors involved in trade discussions for <HES> for Paul George. It's amazing the amount of IMP influence that these players have now gotten over the owners the N._B._A.. Teams Yeah. It's it's gotten out of hand but at the same time I think that this out of hand is a good thing for everybody and this so there's a couple of instances it really turned you off the Hi Leonard with the Spurs thing turned you off and I think that the Anthony Davis with the PELICANS deal turned you off but you know with this Paul George to the clippers in Oklahoma City decide all right. We're going to get all this compensation back and we're GONNA make this deal and also now with Westbrook wanting out potentially. It's because they're not going to compete Westbrook is saying hey I want to get the hell out of here. This is horrible. It's just hey I'm in my early thirties now and I don't want to go to a contender or not going to contend without Paul George at this point so there's there's a couple of different instances. It's not like everybody wants out all the time and also with free agency in the short term deals you guys are going to be moving from team to team but it generates so much interest but one of the things that came up was that since Russell Westbrook Brooke is demanding a trade that maybe that is the superstar that the Knicks could get. Maybe that is the elusive player that the knicks could go out and obtain to change their fortunes and the answer to that is no as well now. I cannot believe that I have Ford Westbrook so don't worry about it well. I mean they would have prior. They can't I mean you know what though is still ways that it could be figured out because they trade away guys that are currently not until after December fifteen but still there there was there were ways has no way up doing the what's your McCall the the Morris deal for sure but I think that this is another sign. The fact that the Knicks are making sure that they're not making making the same mistake can they so I know what you're saying but at the same time like okay fine but you're telling me that they wouldn't be able to in some way shape or form finagle this deal to make the get the guy here they want to stuff happens all the time in the end. I will bet you a hundred bucks. That westbrook ends up in Miami row is going to get them. I don't disagree. I'm not going to bet you because I'm not going to bet you come on man well. Why would I bet you agree to wire? Where's he ended up? It's going to be Miami Bob Dwyer. Your basketball aficionado around here where is Russell. Westbrook certainly sounds like Miami unless Houston comes student dive heard them back. I don't know all the contracts of it but reunite harden and Westbrook. I'm not saying it makes sense but I would be running around in between the two of them. That's going to be great. Well I mean it makes a lot of sense. Miami makes a lot of sense yeah right. I mean this is not actually what the taxes and everything else would be much better friends sure but it's not like Oklahoma. What's Oklahoma's tax relief? No it's not California sure there's no doubt about it so quiet. Leonard is going to bring home less money than he's putting into the tax coffers of California. I think you'll be all right though yeah. I'm sure you I'm sure you do he. Does I sent you the text marriage of his net. Take home pay after his new contract with the clippers. What was your reaction? My reaction was that there is a place. That's more expensive to live the Nassau County. That's not my reaction yes but I think that with Kawhi Leonard He's always wanted to go back home. He's always wanted to play out in California so for him. You know guys made a ton of money. He's got his championship. There was one thing that was left for him. He's got a couple of championships couple. M._V._p.'s was one thing I was left. Bremen's playing home. They were talking about Nick nurse was at the Summer League last night and they were talking about nick nurse at how he got the message that Kawhi was going to play for the clippers much like Sean marks said he he had to wait to hear from you know what's Kevin Durant insured via instagram or whatever they leave but okay. I kind of do believe it. Nick nurse said he got a text message from quiet on his phone. He saw Koiwa setting him something so he he just dreaded opening the text message. Message from Cohn and INQUI- said I'm going home yeah well there you go and Ronald tried everything they possibly could and their power to keep them but it's unfortunate but at least they wanna championship so so you're telling me you actually believe the fact that they waited instagram post because the world new two hours before because of Whoa ges twitter that he was going there. You're telling me that the nets themselves with the only while to hear it from Kevin Durant himself. They can't just count on Whoa Geno. We all can count WHOA JR but we're getting all his stuff from his what I'd like no and why is everybody giving it to watch. I thought about this the other day like now it's obvious because he is he is the guy and he tied into the League you think but I but <music> how he got there is the interest gotta be getting it from somebody within the League. That's the only way I could think of it because all the stuff is really accurate. It's very good. It's also agents that are now breaking a lot of these things like the agent wants their name as part of the breaking news tweets weeks notice that that's a new thing I love is the fact that quite lettered said not the Lakers because supposedly magic Johnson leaked something about the meetings and that just goes to show you how just dysfunctional Lakers are awesome. Hawaii is an interesting guys unlike and I think he's great. He's just a very interesting. There's there's stuff that matters to him. That doesn't matter to your average professional athlete at that level and I love the fact that Kevin Durant took number seven that that's bad oh you love the number seven. That's great great for a rival team Massachusetts. What do you got Jimmy now? It's Massapequa bobby was on there already. I Look C._B._S.. C._B._S. Massachusetts. It's not Massachusetts. It's massive peak has mass-appeal Massachusetts. That's Massachusetts what he got. You boomer. I just heard your your minute about the women's team yeah and how we're all proud but <hes> I know how you feel about the flag and I know how another millions and millions of people feel about the flag and you know joining on the ground and stomping on it turned a lot of people often. I'm not proud of them at all. I hear you and you know what I didn't like it either. I don't think that it was done on purpose. Allie long drop the flag in a <hes> in celebration after the that was one that wasn't something that I'm out. I'm out. Here's I don't believe that anybody deliberately did it but Kelli O'Hara picked up the flag immediately recognizing that that flag should never touch the shore. There's a flag etiquette. There's a flag code and if you want to wrap yourself in a flag and you WANNA celebrate that you're part of an American American team in your so you're representing our country on foreign soil. That's what you should be doing. How how does it turn into throwing it on the ground stomping on because that's not true? That's not what happened. Well this is is basically this is basically what there are very loud concern people about the way that the whole thing went well true or not as easy as long dropped the flag okay she dropped it. It hit the ground she the Morgan and re piano basically one up to take a picture with the flag in the ground Kelli O'Hara pick the flag up quickly she she recognized Kelli O'Hara. I believe recognized that there was something wrong with that yeah and there were millions of Americans who felt like there was something wrong with that. I don't WanNA get into a political debate about all of this. They won the World Cup. I think that <hes> they showed an amazing amount of determination to do it. They had a target on their back. They put the target on their back. They fought outback verbally te anybody that was criticizing them and they deserve the credit for all of that. I don't WanNa Sour with a political discussion this morning but there are millions of Americans who felt that moment right then and there was I was just was just unbecoming and I would agree with that. I thought I thought dropping the flag on foreign soil is unbecoming Zenit. They stepped on it and they stand on it and all that just dropping it. It's unbecoming. It's it's just not the right thing to do. You expect yeah I I understand. It seems like more of a accident than there were six hundred forty six hundred fifty miles away their ninety. Three hundred Americans buried in normal. They were being disrespectful. I I doubt it seemed like a veteran and you're part of any of these things you get get it but to do anything but was an accident deliver converse but here's the thing it's all in the eye of the beholder. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that they didn't do it deliberately because I don't know I have no idea I think he's GonNa argue that. Never touch the ground. That's the thing they should have known that going in. Hey guys how're celebrate. This flag can't touch the ground by any means. I think that's the biggest thing about. I don't think they did it on purpose. They stomped on it yeah. I think that people see what they want. I think the issue actually those things there's now understand a little bit about is there's two sides to what you see and you see. I guess what you WanNa see and you try to be as unemotional about this. You possibly can but you can't the flag just can't touch the ground. Okay all right all right with you. Now I just I thought we were going on the premise that this caller was was saying that they throw it on the ground and stop some people see it that way. Some people see it that wrong the wrong in your eyes but they're not wrong there. They deliberately do they deliberately stomp on the flag. What you have to see the I'll get uh-huh alright alright alright but I yeah I know exactly I know exactly what you'll see and everybody sees it the way they want to see it? My point is that their teammate Kelli O'Hara new and she picked it up at you immediately immediately at least with that does not belong to ground Gotcha so she is garnering a lot of support. Now this was Allie long was the one that was holding the flag and she dropped it and they celebrated and they and three of them Morgan again repeat how long all together and picture as the flag was lying on the ground okay all right. I'll take I'll take a look at it again. In the in the break it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Gio Jio in fifteen minutes or so more Yankees Blue Jay tickets to give away tomorrow night tickets three get like <hes> Marianna Rivera Captain America bobblehead which sounds like a cool thing so we're giving away tickets a little bit yeah go ahead so I read those yesterday to <hes> if this was the mets. Would we not be killing them for only giving away. Eighteen thousand of them have enough for everybody. I don't think so because it's sort of an I'm being honest. I don't think that's one of the things we'd crush the mets over because I I feel like that is a standard standard number but the standard for like almost every giveaway yeah. It's a lot of fifty five thousand bobbleheads I happen to agree with. I have no issue with the whole eighteen thousand but it seems anytime in the midst of a giveaway. We're always like why can't everybody get one and others say if the mets were given any way eighteen thousand everyone would get one and maybe some would get to <hes> you never know. I'm telling you those give what people still show off for. Those give especially the marvel all comic Oh yeah by the way spree of the Yankees they lost their last two in Tampa split that series right and it was a well played series by the way but you know Aaron Boone and everybody decided to give half the team off on that Sunday as playing in the <hes> in the the how about the ten game homestand <hes> that the Yankees Open with when they come back on Friday and then the the couple series of right after that contain game homestand yeah so they got Toronto for three then they have Tampa a bay for four and then come Colorado for three Minnesota at Minnesota for three and then at Boston for four yeah. Well you know what those teams have to do those teams. You just mentioned play the Yankees so you're right on July. The angst gotTa play Boston four times eight times in July. Well we'll get buried are actually not no. It's actually the beginning of August. I'm sorry so eight Times Swat from joy twenty fifth to August fourth you know and then they get back to Baltimore Toronto Baltimore again. That's good so that'll be fun. Yeah I think the Yankees will indeed be alright. Luke Ford should be back in the lineup right. Yes with said injuries sounded worse than the timetable was right like I was surprised me back Friday stomach lining or over the hell is going on. What what did they say a little strained abdomen yeah it was weird bizarre thing but I had never heard it put that way like a strained wind stomach but he is he'll be back? That's a good thing all right. Jerry is here with his update. What's going on Jerry where you're brought to you by Finlandia the world's finest Swiss cheese <hes> we have the All Star game pretty good rice <hes> All Star game last ask night the American League beat the National League four three <hes> local player who won the Homerun Derby and Pete Alonzo flesh and some leather in this game as well? This one is ripped up the middle diving. Stop Muncie first ascent he's retired great stretch by month's Alonzo great play in this game and that was Joe Buck on Fox. That's one part was the great defense. <hes> the other part part would be the fact that Alonzo like many others mic`ed up earpiece in his ear so he and buck going back and forth about the play. How about that play on the back of we've heard it right from the horse's mouth now? How does the call? I love that I really thought it was a lot of fun with the players is being able to talk to the booth. I know it's an exhibition game but pretty cool here this Jerry when you were a kid we all watch the All Star game because we wanted to see our guys in the All Star game. I want to see our guys be present in the All Star game do something pretty special. This kid basically took over the all star weekend or week a couple of days right yeah. He had a good time and it was great that he's on our team. Well maybe not your team no but I know but listen my kids. Watch the mets every night. Yes it is neat watching him. You boys like him. Yes absolutely how could you not who the better hemmer Aaron Judge Him. Here was Alonzo courtesy invest and why with Andy Martino Yeah I can diop this thing. I just want to kick that Bad Rep. I mean a lot of the baseball writers and people in the media. I don't think I could play defense but I can't. He also had a two run single in this game team can't play that's why it makes you look worse. You gotTa make plays over there that not many first baseman have to make and he's made a lot out of them. He has played well and Joey Gallo seventh-inning homerun that proved to be the difference in this game <hes> you also had cease Abacha apart of this as he threw out the first pitch as he was back in Cleveland went out had a mound visit now with all this chapman here is Dave Roberts bird scrape moments with being around obviously the C._c._c. back home where it all started for him <hes> what he did for the city and for <hes> Major League Baseball to recognize that to have him be an honorary all star. I think that's fantastic Sobat the very appreciative everything just being back here and his atmosphere and get to meet these guys in in and know what it's like to be an all star again is really cool and getting these relationships is fun and of course asked his message to the Cleveland fans which he pitched for for so along thank you and I love you. Just one one regret. My career is not winning. Championships love you wow strong words import Jeff McNeil by the way guy gets up there getting his moment in the sun as an all star a soak it up every bit of this. He looks up on the scoreboard. He sees his name there Jeff McNeil batting and then looks to the left sees a picture of Jacob degrom. He was not happy about that afterwards he actually he's like that should not happen happen though it shouldn't have this poor parents got upset about it. I jeez better hope. He makes another one right Jacob degrom big. How much is that like? You got to really screw something up. If you're the scoreboard operator till like these are two different men's spaces here was I was going to do the next McNeil. Does topping the girls picture up there. I don't really like that I mean I want to see my picture up there on my family too. So what are you going to do. I guess back next year yes there you go become a starter here. I WanNa see my picture that much to ask visit all-star not I mean crying his leading the National League in hitting you know it's not like this is just like some add on at the end of the at the as bad right there absolutely right he did go. He did fly out in the eighth inning degrom <hes> one two three seven pitch Third Masahiro Tanaka the win and Chapman strikes out the side in the ninth for the Save Friday Night Yankees and Blue Jays Yankees fifty seven and thirty one at the break the mets forty and fifty in Miami the play the Marlins Rob Manfred telling the media Tuesday M._l._b. has done nothing to doctor or alter the baseball's to generate more offense he added the owners. Actually don't want more home runs so he says he works for them. Okay <hes> <hes> N._B._A.. Commissioner Adam Silver spoke and here comes instant replay for the coaches to manage. We've passed a coach's challenge until one year experiment okay one year experiment and this is how you tell them you want to check the twirl the finger oh my gosh that's according to e._S._p._N.. Yes twirl of the finger. I swear to God. That's what the article says. I have no reason to think it's not true so there's no flag. There's no buzzer editors Jay twirl of finger finger the circle so there you go finger the imaginary circle instant reply but why can't you just tell all right so you're closer to the official official in the N._B._A.. Probably than any other sport you just say hey. I want to challenge that this Anita Stupid Finger Zeus was conger. The Circle Finger in the circle. Why would you say was copied beat and pasted from the E._S._p._N.? Story so I didn't screw it up to challenge play a team must have a time out and call one after the play and then it's coach must twirl his finger towards the referees to signal for the challenge his finger finger. It'd be funny if like that hey right if you're pointing and making a circular motion yeah that'd be sort of condescending. I don't like that with this like like the Gimme the check one. Let's get out of here. Let's go that one is a little bit but the pointing insert like you don't like what I do that. Do you see when you were doing it to me like strange. The officials are not gonna take kindly to that because coral though that is a twirl squirrel like here's my that's my version of twirl the twirl your finger. I guess we can do people sitting in a boardroom trying to figure this. Yes Imagine Popovich doing this okay well. How about the first reporter that's gotta ask him when the twirl goes awry right because you know that will happen? Well you know the first way it's going to go awry is they're not gonNA use their pointer finger. They're gonNA use their Middle Finger twirl. You need their review this so yeah ah like again unless that's a joke in the article Zam sign Suzanne. All your fingers really stupid I agree. I totally agree. It's a one year trial basis. We'll see how that goes. I hear was silver pretty clear. The players and teams are tampering. I think to a certain extent we always knew that there was some leakage some slippage around those deadlines minds leakage and slippage hear was Sean Marks. It's pretty clear that K. D. and Kyrie had this in mind. You know I think we've seen it before with players wanting to team up wanting to play together <hes> and again a lot of that was done without us really having them to do a whole lot and that's on the nets website and the nets twitter. Yeah I found the better way it's okay to be able to notify the officials that we want to review something. You give every coach an Air Horn so you know what's going on. He knows it's visual. I mean it's not visual. It's totally so you can't miss that right. Ball goes off the opponent or you're thinking when the opponent you'd think the possessions supposed to go to you <music> that would work better than the twirl of the pretty stupid here's one other from the nets twitter page. Kenny Atkinson loves the Kadian Indian <HES> Kyri our nets I used to wear it humbled. You know that the guys of that caliber would <hes> choose to play with us. As we played last hour it's clear they just chose them and worried about the details later when they made made their decision the warriors to waive Shaun Livingston and it looks like Marcus Morris might back out of a deal with the Spurs to sign with the New York Knicks have men's quarter-finals at Wimbledon today. You've got Novak Djokovic taking on David Goffin coming up at eight A._M.. Guido Pella and revert about Teesta as well at eight A._M.. I honestly have never heard of either two of them. You've got ten or thereabouts ten thirty or eleven Kei Nishikori and Roger Federer and then same query playing Raphael and the Dow and you guys detailed it <hes> the U._S. Women's soccer team with the parade of New York City coming up later after nine thirty ten o'clock something like that down the Canyon of Heroes All right thank you Jerry. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Gianotti boomer and Geo the parade. Everybody's outstanding around on getting ready for this <hes> U._S.. Women's parade and then I just asked the age old question when anything is celebrated New York City. Is this going to screw US somehow someway. I know that you're not a big parade got while I'm not a big guy. I mean you know just like a small smalltown parade. We have the Norwegian Day parade it's over in Brooklyn and it's on a Saturday and it doesn't effect anybody right like like the then you have these big parades that go down fifth avenue traffic all over the place. You know that it's now I took part in the bike tour now the bike tours another thing. I'm sure it'd be I know while you were there with me and you know what roads are closed down and and I'm sure that not a lot of people yeah. I know it's a weekend. They give you notice you know I I it is it's a lot and we we have <hes> those of us. I should say that do ride their bikes quite a bit a really starting to annoy a lot of people that you know that right well. It's tough man. It's Sean Avery being one of those guys. He's he's the bike lane he he is just on believe he gets more and more aggressive by the day on his on his instincts rob with with bicyclists not all bicyclists but some is that they don't adhere to the traffic lights they go the wrong way a lot louvre guys going the wrong way on one way streets or for that matter. They're on the wrong side of the road sometime. It's a referral out for everybody survive. I feel bad for the delivery. Guy's the Amazon prime guys affects guys or Gals for that matter the U._p._S. guys and gals that have to empty a truck full of packages in Manhattan. Yeah you realize the stress and anxiety that those people must deal with and then never know whether or not sean neighbor is going to be pulling up on you and I think we should do just ride around. You parked in the bike lane you every day on blocked in those people that do that. They're broken can now. There's nothing that they can here or anything could happen or a ticket or anything. That's going to knock them off with their. I'm just GonNa Park this giant vehicle here and you're going to have to deal with it. You know there are fifteen bicyclists that were killed in New York City. I think in the last year really yes and I don't know if it's this year last year but this is this. Is this whole vision zero thing that the mayor is put up and if bicyclist would would basically pay attention to all the road laws. We'd we'd probably have less accidents because I can't tell you well how many times I have made a right turn right and a bicyclist is coming wrong way like what the hell's he doing right and then run that guy over then all of a sudden you're going to be the person who exactly and he's on the wrong side of the road going the wrong way. Yeah I mean I am A and I'm all about buying smiles just about to say that I'm a big fan of the idea of it. It's just a New York City unless the roads are closed like that like that bike tour yeah I it's just impact you. Take your life in your hands and you know and you the other the other issue that you have here. Is You have citi bike city by by concept is a good idea. I get it but you have a lot of people coming here that aren't from here that aren't used to the traffic around here and somehow they think that their immune from something happening happening to them on a bike because they're on a bike yeah well. There's there is a lot of that so I parked today. I have the brought the F. One fifty today for some reason I says I've talking because that's my that's my vacation vehicle Jeff. You're riding dirty. I decided I was like I wasn't ready to mentally go back to the car yet so I took the Ford in so I parked in an area that I know is because the front of the building when I showed up both sides packed with cars but I know it is impossible. Yeah it's probably easier to launch a satellite than it is for me to leave this spot because it's an area where all the food trucks are they all line up. It's like an unspoken thing role even though it should be for normal parking working all the food trucks line up there and then for whatever reason there's a line of livery cabs in Uber's that that that <hes> possessed the bike lane so when I go it's basically like I have to sneak out a space is that is smaller than a birth canal at the time that I have to leave and like people are waving then like the the French fry trucks will go up two feet and then like the guy go back four feet and we'll get out and they'll just come up. They don't park assist they go back and then finally they'll take me like twenty five minutes in that if the people are in the trucks and if they're not in the trucks then I'll just sit there there and that is the most infuriating thing on our end on top of all of that you may end up clipping a biker. Oh yeah soon as I get out your schmuck face going two thousand miles an hour in the bike lane. You know yes you're right on top of the morning to media people cannot completely appreciate or truly understand what you just talked about unless you've lived it and Bobby Eddie always go out there to go on the street for a reason and they see all the stuff unfolding. Oh He's entertainment unto itself. I mean you could just put a folding chair there and just watch the comings and goings. I mean the other day I told you the pull the truck up on the curb to get out because there was a parked delivery vehicle. It was like bringing some sort of dairy products to the La Palm Dane. Whatever that place is a little fringe bakery on the corner like some guy just bringing milken like thing like whole milk and then you come back Almond Milk Skim Milk only Jesus Christ so what I'm saying they wanted to get in his truck? It's the perfect Jerry Seinfeld situation and he's just like one more one more. One more just moved a frigging. Oh you got to do his job which is moving up and then for a little bit then go back and get the rest of the milk whatever right so then I just I decided it was enough room to be able to monzo shows Brian monzo producer of Mike von he shows up because you're trying to get out I guess so he's Directing Ping me out and I'm up onto the curb like avoiding pedestrians now at the front of this thing with the with the parking assistant going up. It's just I will say the amazing thing is one the the garbage truck comes in and he decides double-parked so he can go into starbucks coffee his buddy at least the garbage truck to sit and write. I know those like the last guys you WanNa mess with the the no no let those guys enjoyed a lot days. Yes you don't you don't tell those guys the move or you can get. I love you get the garbage truck. That'll that'll pull up right into one of these small narrow streets down here and you'll be behind it and you can't pass on either side because it's small garbage trucks big got cars on both sides and they go into a mystery building thing that is filled with more garbage and you've ever seen in your entire life and that guy will be there for twenty minutes hocken bags out and you're thinking what the hell is going on in this building where there's that much frigging garbage well. This guy one got back after back bad. That's why you don't mess with the Sanitation Department those folks do they. Don't mess with them though it takes a long time but hey look just let them do those guys. Don't piss them off I would never would those are my guys. I'm just saying ain't sometimes you get stuck. Buying one of those unfortunately will take a long time. I I understand. He's a first World Prague. I like playing in whatever well I mean. There's what we do. In New York you live to complain whether it's underground or above ground between the construction the delivery the bike lanes the Uber's Uber's the cabs the personal vehicles the trucks right there is a it's it's madness. There's a woman who works I believe on the eleventh floor and she for whatever reason and me are on on like the exact same schedule like we show up within minutes of one another every day and generally at the time that we show up there's one spot left in front of the building and today she got it and it was the first day after a couple of days off and he infuriated me you know and she's a nice woman and we have like this unspoken thing where like we know that one of us is going to win every day but then if we get out of the car at the same time whatever it's still mad hey how's it going like smiling but I know like onto Arbroath accused but I've done things I've tried to like. Go different routes to get out in front of her because I know this one spot left is not been worse than the battle stuck at a light and you're GONNA make a right turn and and somebody is coming down the road and you see the big that last spot oh yeah and you're sitting there number one at the light. Get ready to make that right time to go right in that spot and somebody takes spot. I'd rather get punched in the face. You're absolutely I'd rather someone come up to me and punch me square square in the face. They didn't have that happen to me. I think the really annoying thing is when the when the post office trucks are out there that that's really that's that's not right. I mean you can have sixty five post office. Trucks all parked parked out in the street where there should be normal street parking by some right and they're taking up three or four spots because they're just humongous in those days. Just forget about it you might as well just walk just just park somewhere and two miles away and walk. Did it bother you you that that guy that had the signs scar was down there for like three weeks straight yeah well he never he would. He talked about the idea about a hydrant though so that didn't bother me as much but I mean a bother me when he would come up to me and basically I have to tell me about all sorts of stuff that was going on. I mean seven elevens thrown away the food and the whole thing all stuff people work here. It's supposed to go out to dinner with a couple of show hosts and they I mean it was like yeah. There was a whole I don't want it was the whole thing was all I use just one of those a lot going on. It was about eight different person. These were involved right and he would be the actual personalities. Finales are worn person with a personnel on air personnel. Oh I see okay great and he would he would end each one of these statements with. I swear I'm not crazy. Yeah exactly you can ask this guy. I'm totally normal and then he would give his normal bona fides from his house which is a car on the street right with protest signs yeah he he did not there was one particular show here he had his is is on so by the way you know locally clearly you know you're talking about. We're talking about this Belmont Stadium and everything so it looks like it's going to get off the ground and they're going to add a long island railroad station to the Belmont. Now the problem is the Long Island railroad station is going to be I all my I was reading last night about a mile from the actual new stadium a really and they gotta run shuttle buses. Oh my God no they're not yes yes now there or some obviously some residents in that area floor Clark and everything else that do not want this thing to be built but then there are other people in those areas that do want to be built <hes> obviously most of the politicians are all supporting it so I would say it's going to be on the fast fast track and they're going to get. They're going to get started here before too long and they're going to build a a major. Stop right there at Belmont Park. Wait a second you telling me as a mile from the train station. That's what it said that I was reading. I was reading Zamboni back and forth owner pluses. No that sounds like hell. I'm like what nine oh like. If John was here he'd probably say no. It'll be simple. It's easy state of the art buses. I know it sounds like hell when if you told me like if I if you go on the double our site yeah see that little red exclamation point next to something inside a triangle it means like they're doing track work or whatever yes and it says there shuttle all service from Babylon the patio off miserable Hell No. I'm not doing that. Shuttle service from Manhasset to like Douglaston is bad shuttle service anywhere the right that those two words to me. That's Domino's amount of ground shuttle Guy Yeah don't take the shuttle airplane when they shut down at the sea and stuff like that but on the ground shuttling is not me I'm nothing works as a better repellent than shuttle service for me like it's basically like off to a horse fly. You say shuttle service. I'm going on whatever I have to do right now. I'll get one of those petty bikes like give me a guy rides me around a basket before I get on a shelter because that the Belmont the building is I believe it's south of the of the race track and the the train stations GONNA be North at the racetrack so it's like it's not like they're not connected what about using the horses take horse and buggy taking the race horses and then you'd be able to get there in a mile so they'd love it heats the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo Jerry RECCO is back with us and he's got an update and by the way when that parade starts at nine thirty nine thirty C._B._S.. Sports network will do a little like inset so if you're a boomer and Geo Fan parade fan you can have both on at the same that a little picture in picture type of deal so you don't have to miss a thing at for people who don't know what the Canyon of Heroes is. It's a it's a parade route that basically runs from battery park down down in Lower Manhattan and it goes right up Broadway right to Gracie Mansion Gracie imagine being where the mayor of New York City lives right and they'll wake him up when they get the visit Gracie or city hall are though that's going to be city hall that's right and of course you mentioned city all right. Thank you all right Jerry. What do you got for us? Where brought to you by ultra hair? Surge Shampoo is it surged my hair dot com four three win for the American league last night at the All Star game in Cleveland Bunch of moments here Joey Gallo seventh-inning a home run that gave the A._l.. L. A four one lead they would hold on from there. Despite urine single by Pete Alonzo in the eight here was a moment in this game is about the throughout the first pitch and then later on with a roll this Chapman on the mound to believe at this point. There were two out. Nobody on he struck out a couple cece made his way out about this visit C Sobat via. We'll come out visit with Chapman said. I'm just coming to make sure you're okay. They're doing this so he gets a nice ovation hair a- and he did get a nice ovation as you can imagine he enjoyed the moment here was the mound visit materialize alison remove. Ask Me and was like which happy gets out there. You WanNa go make a moment is and I'm like yeah sure we're not there. Where would they discuss <hes> good? I got I got nervous when I got out there like we're supposed to say and then like if he gives up ahead after and it's my fault so but it was cool to have that moment he did not give up any C._C.. Me This guy. He is really made a lot of twilight of his career yeah but I mean he's he's so well liked by everybody. It just shows you that <hes> he's just he did it the right way Yup for a long time and he's also he. I don't know if he does it every week he might. I'm not sure but I know from time to time. He does that podcast and Ruko right right and great. I mean you listen to them. The personality comes out seems like a fun loving Guy Years Chapman pretty cool for him. It was a great moment understand this last season sending part of this liberation here also great experience. You know something I will. It always obviously through his translator brothers of yesterday about what's Marley Rivera is that her name the E._s._p._N.. Reporter that during the Homerun Derby did the questions translated her questions took the answer and then translated the residents versatility. Yes very much so here was Jacob degrom A one-two-three inning in the third just seven pitches. He certainly had a great time every time you get to make it. It's a it's a real honor and definitely thankful full to be a part of this this <hes> this all star game. He's done it before. Pita Lonzo Jeff McNeill had not here was Alonzo. He had the two run single. He won the home run Derby not too shabby. I feel like I won this weekend. Just by enjoying everything to the fullest monopoly with the mets <hes> here was the Lonzo. He was asked if he'll do the derby next year after winning this week what's next year dodger stadium. I love in dodger stadium so we'll see I love that place and I mean that'd be that'd be fun. That'd be a fun park to to do. Eh sounds like he's in if you're listening right yeah right exactly next fifty then. I don't think he's doing it next year. Keeping those you've got to base it last night and by the way one of these dumb arguments and I know I shouldn't judge everything offers social media McCain does Yankee and met fans twitter going back and forth like Yankee Fan Shaming met fans for being excited at pita. Lonzo had a had a nice weekend like well. I think Yankee fans enjoyed when jeter had his final all star what he did right. I mean like Oh. This is your world series like how many times yes yes. It is so what yeah right like it but it's exactly right. This is what I'm saying. Who can't use the we'll take what we can get the Heiki the mets are forty and fifty in the Yankees are GonNa win the division? They still feel like they need to squash the enjoyment out of it. It's a little silly. That's why I wear the happy white shirt right Yankee Elimination Day yes speaking of squashing enjoyment Jeff McNeill had his squashed when when he looked up at the scoreboard and his name was there but his picture wasn't it was his team mate. That's tough to see the girls picture up there. I mean I didn't I didn't really like that. I mean I WANNA see my picture up their family too. So what are you <hes>. Do I guess that was it turned out. That wasn't the only screw up the scoreboard had as I looked into this a little deeper <hes> they also had dodger's outfielder cody bellinger as a member of the Atlanta braves they also had diamondbacks infielder could tell Martin is a member of the Atlanta braves they also misspelled David dolls name and they Miss Bill Wilson controllers his name they put two l's Wilson and apparently with the rookie the futures game Sunday night. It was all screwed up so the scoreboard operator Raider either got bad information or too much drink before both events. I don't know how it was for the Homerun Derby or it was the mets scoreboard but aren't those things done with the computer. I mean yeah all inputted it is it was all input wrong in a lot of games. That's pretty bad so yeah and they had Yahoo Sports had the screen shots of all the screw ups on the scoreboard and then I think the braves twitter handle put out hey brave brave nation recognize your new braves and it was and Marseille funny so yeah so they had their issues. It wasn't just McNeil although his was the worst because it was face. That'd probably why you know you step into the batter's box. It's tough to not be distracted by that way. We listened to charity game at Yankee Stadium. That was one of the coolest things ever was looking up on scoreboard and see in video of yourself yeah so yeah I would say Jeffrey Neil. Wouldn't you step out and go. Hey come on. Take Me. I would have stepped out <hes> yeah. Could you imagine if you were actually miked that would've made you're talking to Joe and John and you stepped out of the boxes eight Joe and John can you tell the guys to put my picture up. There and you know I had checked out by that point man. Maybe I don't think he one would have been cool if he was though it doesn't <hes> sex touch I love his knee Freddy Freeman in the first inning the freemen and I was telling the guys I thought when they had all three astros that were on the field at the same time I thought that was tremendous as well when they were talking about Michael Brantley Brantley and being back in Cleveland so it was pretty cool Friday night Yankees home for the Blue Jays mets in Miami to play the Marlins you had rob Manfred talking yesterday. He's answering all these questions because Justin Burl Anderson what he said about basically baseball screwing around with the ball and they can figure it out if they want Manfred said yesterday that the League has nothing has done nothing to alter the balls <hes> to generate more offense so I don't know believe it was just a Merlin or had a chance to even talk about a further last night. He did a little bit but he kind of backed up up be clearly because what he said initially was kind of eye-popping here what while but it was posed to him that the commissioner said they've done nothing you know now what he's got will if that's the case we need to work together to figure out what's going on so also they were saying about Justin verlander during the regular Season Hill Hover around ninety one ninety two miles an hour but then when he gets into the playoffs or significant games he could ramp it up ninety seven so you know he's basically dialing it back. I guess S. during the regular season so maybe that's also a part and parcel as to why he's given up as many home runs this year as he has now this happened once before obviously big homerun explosion. Oh you're putting up huge numbers. You and I remember at that time now. I was much younger but I remember at that time saying these guys aren't on steroids. That's ridiculous right there. Lifting more weights they're not cheating and now it's happening again and I find myself saying these guys aren't on steroids. There's no away they're not on. P._D.'s test is so incredibly tough. The bands are humongous. It's gotta be the balls. It's gotta be the bad it's GonNa be the launch angle but am I being naive again to think that something within is going on. I know exactly what you're saying but when I look at like Vlad Guerrero junior quite the show like bonds McGuire and Saint Peter they look like fire hydrants sure Rhino and I guess it's launch Jangle. It's pitch speed all kinds of one of the reasons that Justin Verlander so disgusted is that he's already given up twenty six homers this year and that leads the League yeah now that's four shy of the career high for him in a season wow that's one of the reasons why he so vocal about this and I get it but last night he was totally in control yeah. I just wonder if I'M GONNA look back on this era now and say boy. We were really really stupid to not bring that up again because there's always going to be something that beats test. There's always going to be something new but I really as I sit here today. I really don't believe that the players are juicing. You know there may be there may be some H._G._H.. And stuff like that being used there may be some adderall being used and things of that nature but the other thing to me is when I looked at those bats last night that those guys were using every one of those bats either painted a collar or laminate or has some sort of treatment to it so these aren't Your Dad's Louisville sluggers that they're playing with. They're playing with specially designed bats. It looks like to me as well. They're also bigger and faster and they're throwing the ball harder. There's every I think it's a combination of everything yeah. We really the officer so significant I mean this is not like a five percent jump. This is like a thirty five percent so actually I think it's only if they if they stay on this pace with home runs it would beat the previous record for home runs in a season season by all teams by nine percent so it's not it's not that bad. It feels like the last year though yeah well compared to last year I think but at least the the all all time it's still going to beat it by ten percent. We need not meantime. Everybody's at a million home. Brunson Rod Robbie Kino's for unbelievable. How is it possible? Well you stink mistake. He should be running into more but he's not <HES> Commissioner Adam silver of the N._B._A.. <hes> talking yesterday about the League approving the use of coaches are replay challenge for the upcoming season. It will be for one year on a trial basis hear was sean marks talking about the acquisitions and the signings of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant is thrilled to be getting these the two big players into the fall those three guys two guys you've seen it all the time go up and pair off in all different franchises <hes> with this particular opportunity. It's they wanted to play in Brooklyn and he's very happy about that. That's on the nets. Twitter page. Here was marks again Kyrie. Hi Re really wanted Brooklyn. You've mentioned a couple times during that of home. I'm here you know and so that's I think that's when it probably sit him. <hes> from head coach Kenny Atkinson he says nothing changes for us all by getting better or goals to continue just continue that rise. I think they're going to be a lot of good teams. In the east. I think is going to be a lot of parody. That's that's my that's my gut in east. I think you know when you think about Milwaukee and Philadelphia right those are the two teams are perhaps Miami now. What's the West Coast air maybe but <hes> he's right? It's Wide Open Boston will be humble walkers and boss yeah. They'll still be very competitive but you know now. The balance of power is definitely shifted West. It's GonNa be interesting to see what the warriors doing whether or not they a trade diangelo Russel now that's still on the table and then of course <hes> you have a quiet Leonard Basically Forcing Oklahoma City to trade Paul George Yeah that is power or like we've never seen but it did make a lot of sense to them because of the whole that they got back. It's unprecedented the amount of picks that went back to Oklahoma City. It's almost like you can't turn that so does Oklahoma City try to extract and they should that much from Miami and those Miami give that much. Back I don't know if you <hes> top there's like Oklahoma. City already has Miami's picks or something for like twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two or something crazy so it's it's going to be more difficult there. Will they have to get a third team involved. Maybe there's so much money ah they may actually have to give a pick right because you owe him four years one hundred forty one million dollars. I believe yeah okay see would have it. Isn't that what the Ngelo Russell getting now one eighteen or one seventeen when I'm I'm saying though I get it but I- rustled way Russell Westbrook plays. I think he's got at least four years left. See that's the problem. That's the way he plays is is just balls to the wall and Jimmy Butler shot percentage has been right but that's the thing is like his entire game is on the based on athleticism and it's like if you lose a step and you're not the same Guy Pat Riley always gets his guy man. He wants to guy he'll get them other one. We know laws trying to finalize their doors from Carmelo Anthony and he's still unsigned as far as I know she hit sixty eight thousand dollars and slots the other day that ice G._N._C. where it was I don't. I don't think it was in this area. It could be wrong. I thought it was somewhere else but yes sixty grand for her nice. <hes> men's quarter finals at Wimbledon underway Novak Djokovic tied with Goffin three three in the first set. You've got Sim Korean Raphael and the Dot Com later and also later the US women's soccer team will take their parade route and enjoy their victory when you guys watch Wimbledon. Does it bother you that there's dead grass. I hate that at the end of the tournament dead Chris it looks so nice in the beginning of the tournament and then dies out as the weeks go on it ain't no masters I mean it's tough guys aren't running back and forth over the same spot over and over. It's a save the wear and tear man what he wanted to do. Yeah you do actually do get that at the masters with the the patrons walk across the fairway they burn that out they do. Yes that is true right. It doesn't bother me that it's your Wimbledon observation. Is this your C._B._S.. Sports Minute Interviewing David Ferrie he loves Golf Yeah Claret Jug and everything's how about that all about Royal Portrush Golf Course in Northern Ireland Replace Tigers Post what he hey do getting up at one o'clock in the morning now and looking like bug is that no google tiger woods during the break and check out the little video what he's doing getting him ready you know through the sleep was Iraq thorough. Was It instagram. You know I don't okay. I just Google Tiger Woods. Why not just go over there? You have enough money to S- you know perhaps he's on his way right the house and just go over there and play. I told you royal portrush looks like your plan on the moon man. It is a great unbelievably beautiful golf. Course I mean it is just awesome. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo. Are you a stranger things fans at one of the things that you watch string. I've seen it but I'm not I'm not like caught up in it. Okay all right because it it came back season three and it was good I got I went through the whole thing. I'm not going to give spoilers. I'm not going to tell you what happened. I I re re watching wanted to before I go. I'm not going to tell you don't worry. It's not a spoiler alert. I'M NOT GONNA say anything but it's really good. I thought they did a great job at season three and they make it so there's something about the way that they film this and the eighties atmosphere that I'm so into like a bunch of eighties these references back to the future terminator all this stuff but the way that they create this world in the eighties in the summer is just so intoxicating to me like that's that's probably my favorite part of the show who knew there were that many eighties cars still running that I thought about that too it should that environment. They do such a great job in because I grew up in the eighties. It's it's appealing to me so I just wanted to highly recommend. I think it just dropped on the forth so it's it's still relatively new but I did finish last night and I thought it was. I thought it was tremendous now. Is there a promise for a yes absolutely already know I I've seen it. I like it good but I'm not like all caught up in it. You don't get see I'm not a huge sci fi but for whatever reason this particular show I like a lot. These kids are getting older though you gotta get used to that because now because the kids when they start they were kids and now they're teenagers and their voices are changing and cracking etc going through puberty and stuff and it's like it takes a little while to get used to because you're so used to these kids being kids so I did get caught up in something you you'll probably laugh at me and I don't know if you would get into I think you would get into giving your background background. Your language skills language how funny you try to be. Try to try to yes. Why would you put it that way? Well your funny funny. You try to push ups. Will you please yeah what is <music>. I'm sorry I'm around here stones and just relying funny try to be you know it's like say like yeah. You know it's well. Would you say comedian tries to be funny. No you say guys funny yeah but he's trying to be funny. He's funny naturally funny and he tries to enhance that it would be like me saying you know as good as your N._F._l.. Career you make it sound like that. It's almost like hard. I'm sorry you know what I'm saying. Why didn't mean to hurt your feelings hurt? My feelings are just two hundred forgetting that six years old and you need a pat on the back of thirty-seven okay but no but then you can't tell me that was awesome. No no it's not what I'm trying to say. No no no no no no no no no no. You're just feeling just this <music> if not as shots at me all day long I just sit here like I am nor fodder is what I am. No no no. Let's get callers. Call up on your justice. Sensitive probably overstate in a little bit but anyway I do think that a show that I did get into and watch the whole thing because I caught up into goes. I love the character yeah the Marvelous Mrs Mazel. I've heard a lot. He's a lot of awards that I'm telling you. I didn't think I was going to get into it. You know 'cause the way it's presented and all that stuff then. After the first episode I was like Man I am all I am caught right into this whole thing and she becomes a comic and she's a stand up comedian and lenny bruce it takes place place in the late fifties. It is awesome that is great. Yeah I are their cars and his thing <hes> yes there are although they don't work so well but there are cars in it but you gotta sit and you gotTa Watch the first couple and and you just got to watch the whole thing and you'll get it and you'll find it to be really really funny so yeah. I don't know if I could do it. I think you can I think you can and I think you will and I think you'll enjoy it that <hes> actress. Whoever plays the lead role I I saw her and a bunch of places and I was like why is this person famous? I've never even seen Brosnahan yes and then I found out this was the show and I saw jammies. She is she is I. There's a lot of different words I could. I could use to describe the character she plays but the one thing I will say she is fascinating. The character is fascinating yeah. And how many seasons now don't you just to do and you caught up. You just blew right I well. I had a reason to yes. I blew right through it. Yes you Binge Watch. I don't know how to help you find time. Hey look man. It's it's worth your time. That's all I can tell you. Well now that we're back in working. The T._V. is is done. It's well. You know you don't have baseball tonight. That's what I'm saying not much going on E._S._p._N.. E._S._P._N.. which is amazing? You know the U._S.. Women's team is here this morning for the Ticker Tape Parade to Canyon Heroes going to be awesome sight. Everything's GonNa be great great weather for it and all that other stuff. They're going to board a plane. They'RE GONNA fly to L._A.. And they'll be on the S._P.'s tonight yeah. It's amazing what these planes can do. They can get you someplace that a Coupla I think these gals are enjoying the time of their life if you will right and they were just Europe crazy exactly exactly I know every time the S._p.'s comes around. There's only one thing I think of and I think Bobby knows exactly what I'm talking about. Go Ahead Z.. Read my norm MacDonald nor McDonald's monologue during the S._P.'s in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight boomer. was there took a shot up. You're actually a part of them. I guess but the the joke that will always the he ended with this he looks at Charles Watson it and he goes and Charles Watson who has won the heisman trophy isn't that unbelievable wins the heisman trophy and nobody can ever take that away from you unless you kill your wife in a waiter zoomed in on like tigers face. That's I mean it's a great show is what that is unbelievable joke. He's the funniest man alive he really is something else that guy I mean that whole model and they never and ever since then like it was like they basically went to guys who voiced Disney characters after that like like you know shocking yeah I saw an article that had it written. It's like with that thing and said E._S._P._N.. Will never do this again. Oh Yeah Oh of course it's like an hour hosting the espy's Matthew Broddrick like they found like the most squeaky clean person on earth after the whole norm MacDonald thing but if you could go if you have some time today go to Youtube go back down memory lane with McDonnell watch that monologue boomers apart of it and it is tremendous. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Gio stocks mets and Brodie van wagon and the craziness and while we were away in the throwing of the chairs and the roster construction and all of this now is GonNa handle the trade deadline you know the Yankees a little bit quiet of course losing a couple of games going into the break but we believe that they will be fine and they'll just come down to the old trade deadline's. We've talked about over and over and over again. I did laugh though when I saw the headline here made me think of you as <hes> we headline made you think of me that's right C._C._C.. Tabatha says Delon Severino would be like a trade. Oh there you go there you go. He's heard that somewhere yes he probably has acquiring a big name at the trade them two of them one of the bullpen and one for the rotation. That's why it makes it so interesting that it sounds like the twins and the Yankees are in on the closer and Stroman for the Blue Jays then all of a sudden comes report that the mets are taking and calls on wheeler from the Red Sox and maybe even the Yankees so good for the you know this is where the mets now have to navigate this and they gotta rebuild their team in they they have players playing out of position. It's eighty onic attic is really when you think about it and you think about the construction of the roster and how it was built in the trades that were made and some of the people that were brought in and the fact that you're to top pitchers don't WanNa throw to the catchy you brought in that actually has brought some offense of pop to the team is mind-boggling. All it can happen with the mets. I mean it's it's almost it's so like predictable that there's going to be an issue and that issue is going to be blown completely not out of proportion but just completely blown up whether it be the general manager of throwing a chair whether it be syndergaard not wanting to throw Romo's and wants to throw to neto you brought Romo's here because you weren't getting any offense at d'arno and then d'arno actually has an offensive weekend against it's the Yankees down in Tampa your I mean it's just crazy you get rid of <hes> Jay Bruce. He ends up back in your division and he's just killing you. Do you think do you agree with me. I brought this up early this morning that Brody van wagon and does not have a lot of friends right now in the organization now the reason why I say this is a story really bad story comes out that is you know we talked about it. A lot and the details are sketchy. Whatever whatever you WANNA say with him calling down to the the dugout which made him look terrible and then this throwing the chair thing goes boom right to the media now? I don't think that that was a open door meeting where the media happened a witness that it was a sources brodie. Van Wagon throws a chair in the coaches meeting somebody somebody called Dave Island from the coaching staff and said you're not going to believe what V._W.. Just did it may be and then Dave Island. Call somebody and says guess what V._W.. Or someone who was in that meeting is like this guy is a tyrant and everybody needs to know how ridiculous this is and I'm going to go run to whomever I just wonder like. Sometimes you know you have a novice guy takeover and new a Newbie if you will <hes> you know rookie and he is the one that is setting the path for the team and I think initially when he first started it was a breath of fresh. Eric was a out of the box thinking by Jeff Wilpon I was for the most part was welcomed because we all figured that maybe this agent person would be able to convince the Wilpon to spend some money. All they've really don is move money around and they still have a just a lopsided roster that Joe is not constructed properly and they have problems they have issues and those issues manifest themselves on the defensive side of the of the game not so much the offensive side defensive so I just I'm just thinking that if Brody van wagon is that disliked where everything he's going to do people are GonNa go right to the media to make them look bad then this. This might be a bigger disaster than we thought because if people are trying to show tha