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Rebecca Ursule's Podcast __ Global One Voice Empowerment
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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
Fresh update on "si" discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But again, like Eddie, it was it was a thought, you know, he talked about the fight even about, you know, tank and what could have been done. So we like to say we're on good terms and things are still good with us. What's it like to have so many guys that are high level in that gym? Is that a source of motivation? Is that push you even further than you have pushed before having guys like Errol Spence Jr., Jermell Charlo, Anthony Joshua, Frank Martin in that gym on a regular basis? I think it's just fun seeing that there. To be honest, like it's cool. It's like, oh shit, you're here. But I think all that comes within yourself. You know, you could have a million people there. You can have Canelo there. You could have, you have the world, Cristiano Ronaldo there, don't matter if it's not in you to want to push. You know, if you can't push without them being there, you ain't gonna push them when they're there. So for me, it's just, it's cool. I mean, it's great to see guys that are, you know, dedicated. But for me, it's all within me. If I'm not there, I'm not there. Is this, do you consider this your life now? Because, I mean, you've been doing it for about six months. Derek James ain't moving to LA. Like, could you see yourself doing it for six years? I mean, do you see this as your life? I see myself giving everything I have to boxing for as long as I can, and then, and then hitting them with the deuces. But I'm committed to like taking this as far as I can and becoming the champion of how many times that's going to be and having great fights with great fighters and seeing where that's going to go. But I don't know how long that's going to last, but I'm here to do it and I'm not going to let my life waste by without reaching my full potential. I'm still young and I can do it. do you think about the end though? Sounds like it crosses your mind about how long you want to do it and whether you want to do other things. As of right now, no, I mean, you ought to be like, damn, bro, you want to go through these hard-ass training camps. Sometimes, of course, it's hard. These are not, it's not easy to break up and do the same thing every day and grind hard and avoid burning out and then having to like get back on the horse and go again. Like, the training camps are the hard part. The fights is fun. But, you know, again, I know this is part of the game and I'm committed and, you know, I see myself doing this for as long as I can, as long as I can and and doing great things in the sport and then riding off in the sunset, whatever I'm going to do. I have no clue. You obviously never want to take a loss, but as you look back at it now, do you feel like you're a better fighter because of at least the experience of going through what you went through with Gervonta? Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. Now, no media day is going to be able to compare to how big that was and and electricity. And so now I'm more, I'm used to, I'm going to be more, you know, experienced if I have a huge fight like that again, which I will. And, you know, I gained a lot of experience from it and I don't even care about loss to be honest. I'm like, okay, I'm going to come back. You know what I mean? And I think this is showing a great example to other fighters. Like, I lost but watch what I do now and they're going to see how successful I'm going to be even off a loss and it's going to change the whole dynamic of boxing. I think it did. I think me even getting in there and risking it that early in my career. I think that did inspire other people to finally, you know, buckle up and fight. I think I did a good thing for the sport and I think, you know, if the time goes on, they're going to be like, yeah, that was the moment changed, you know, that was like, I put a stake in what it was before. And I think I'm going to continue to do that. I think I'm going to keep innovating in the sport and they're going to be following my lead, you know, and I can see it, you know, I was doing social media, every boxer wants to do it. And then, you know, now I'm going to show them the blueprint on how to produce big fights. I think I'm going to be leading the way for a while. So Oscar Duarte, I told you this before, I was surprised when you picked him, you know, not to make it out like he's Muhammad Ali, but I see a lot of guys coming off a challenging loss, taking much softer touches. This to me is not a soft touch. You could have taken on anybody you wanted. Why did you pick Oscar Duarte? It was between two guys. I trust my coaches, his, you know, opinion on who I should fight. So I sent him the guys that I could potentially fight and he won the Oscar Duarte. So that was basically what it was. Oscar Duarte, of course, he's a heavy puncher, but if you've been boxing a long time, you should know how to fight your guys that hit hard. There's going to be guys that hit hard, there's going to be guys that are fast, slow, come forward, back up. I can't be, you know, what I'm going to do. I won the world title, but I can't beat, you know, Oscar Duarte, no disrespect. But if I want to do that, like let's run it, you know, I think that the layoff wasn't that long from Tank. So I still feel right there, you know, I'm not discouraged from the loss. So this is not, it's not going to affect me. It's going to be a tough fight. Don't get me wrong. I got to be extra cautious, but I think, watch, I know I'm ready. You know, a lot of people would look at the weight and say, I would 136 last time 140. What's the big deal? What is the big deal? What's the difference with you between 136 and 140? I just think that people that say that it's not educated on the sport, you know, those those last pounds can kill you literally because you're already killing yourself to get there. So those extra pounds are just like it's just a relief for your body. And on top of it, you know, look at, you could have fight with 12 ounce gloves or eight ounce gloves. Oh, it's only four ounces. Now, you tell a fighter, what's the difference? It just if you know, you know, I don't, you know, I don't want to explain it. Like, you know, you know, no, you know, if you're a wrestler and you cut the weight before you overlay and then on top of it, if you're not able to rehydrate the way you want, that's even worse. Like that's like a huge disadvantage. Like, I don't care what nobody says, like, that's crazy. Does the, you're still weeks away from the fight, but does the training feel different not having to have 135 as the target? Yes, it's a relief. Like I could focus on my skills. I'm not even tripping about my weight. Like I'm cool, you know, it's been a huge relief and I felt like I was fighting good at 140. Like Fortuna, like I felt like my mind was there. I was sharp. I could take the punches. I mean, I guess Fortuna was like a true 140, but you know, I felt better regardless of whoever the opponent was. I always felt better like that weight class. I was like sharper and I felt more, you know, conscious. So I think you're going to see a great performance for me. Does this feel like a new chapter for you? Yeah. Yeah, if it was like a book, it was like chapter this. Yeah, you got a few chapters already. it was like a fun chapter in the beginning and then now we're in a new one. Yeah, I think that you're going to see a another rise of mine, you know, just another great trajectory like damn, Ryan's back. It's going to go. It's going to be fire going to be fun ride, you know, spectacular wins is going to have, you know, another hurrah, you know, I mean, oh, we're going to we're going to build it up again. I feel it. I know it. December is the start of a massive month of fights on his own, which includes Bam Rodriguez, Sonny Edwards. Jake Paul is going to be back on his own and your good friend Devin Haney. You've got a lot long history with you want titles. You said the winner of Devin Haney Regis program will have a title. How much how closely are you watching that fight when it comes to a future opponent for yourself? I'm going to be watching that real close. Devin Haney's been on the list of future opponents for a while. He's been doing really good. Regis also a great fighter. So I'll be looking at it. I want the world titles. So, you know, I'll be, you know, I have a little long history with Devin. It's been boiling up for a minute. And I think that people want to see that. So I'll be looking forward to it. How many times in the amateurs? You fought six times. Six times? Three and three. Okay. So in three, but you know, when I fought him, I cracked him. He fought me, you know, points, you know, a little points. I was banging on him, you know, I was hurting him. Now, like I remember when he got in the ring after you beat Fonseca and Anaheim and it was fun. It just didn't feel like the right time for that fight then. No, you know, mid through December now, now starting to feel pretty right. Oh, it is, it is, it is. I think, you know, realistically, I think that I'm going to have some great performances and maybe in two fights, you know, three fights. I think that we're going to run a big one. I think I need to do my part on, on an exploding the 140 division. So I got some work to do, you know, he's been doing his thing, but I'm going to, you know, have those performances again and do what I do. And then we can run it, you know, and for a big one, you know, I got to be smart too. I got to be, you know, realistic, you know, I'm not going to just go to Duarte right to Devin. It doesn't make sense. You know, I think I need to establish myself like, you know, this guy's for real at 140, like be careful, you know, so that's what I'm gonna do. Ryan, welcome back. Thank you. You're the best. Sir.That's it for this week's episode. My thanks to Corey Erdman and Ryan Garcia for joining the show. As always, subscribe, rate, review this podcast on Apple podcast Spotify, wherever you download podcasts, and I'll see you next week. Thank you so much. I go sleep. Have you had it with toxic pet odor products that don't really work? Try the revolutionary new odor eliminator poof poof eliminates odors instantly. No harsh chemicals. No tacky perfumes poof dismantles odors on a molecular level turning any organic odor into clean fresh air instantly. And not just peer poop stink. Use it on stinky pet toys, their beds, even on stinky skin folds, ears and around eyes because it doesn't contain harsh chemicals. Get the amazing new pet odor eliminator. Everybody's talking about go to poof.com today. That's p o o p h.com. If it's not poof, it stinks. 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The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
A highlight from Rockets Surprise Start & Maxey's Star Turn
"This is the Crossover NBA Podcast. I'm Chris Mannix joined by my colleague Rohan Nadkarni and Rohan this is unfortunately going to be a James Harden centric podcast because the three teams we're going to talk about today, Houston, Philadelphia, the LA Clippers all have a connection to one James Harden and the only team that's struggling right now is the team that James Harden is on. But before I get to what we're going to talk about on this week's show, do you remember that takedown from a couple of days ago that the Dallas Mavericks broadcaster did on James Harden? A really well articulated takedown. Also felt personal. Also felt a little personal. I didn't really, honestly, I didn't feel that way. I didn't think it was personal. I thought it was pretty professional. I mean, it wasn't bombastic. It was all facts. Don't get me wrong. All facts. Just funny to come from a Mavericks broadcaster, but continue. Definitely. An unusual source on something like that, but it was factual and it viral it and was widely applauded for the substance of what it said. Our friend, Jimmy Traina, our colleague over at SI .com says that Bally Sports Southwest has taken down that video because yes, they've taken down the video because according to Jimmy Traina did not meet with the values of the Mavericks. What? What are we talking about? That was the furthest thing from controversial. It was certainly, you know, spicy. It was opinionated. Perhaps it was a take, but isn't that what you want from broadcasters? Like, don't you want them to have a take? I mean, how vanilla do you want a broadcaster to be? I mean, again, it was out of left field coming from a Dallas Mavericks broadcast. You expect something like that from like Stephen A. Smith on first tape first take or skip Bayless on undisputed. You don't expect that from an analyst on the Dallas Mavericks broadcast, but that's where it came from. And that's how it got into the universe. It got taken down wild, wild to me. So I had no clue. That's kind of an embarrassing look. I someone had to have complained. Perhaps it was the Clippers. Who knows? That is or maybe just Mark Cuban doesn't want that guy, you know, acting like he's representing the Mavericks. I don't know. But can like, can we just be adults about this? We all know that that's one person's opinion. No one is ascribing this take to the Dallas Mavericks. It was again, as we sat here, it was all true. Nothing he said was a lie. Nothing was exaggerated.

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
Fresh update on "si" discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"When the days after your first loss, and you hadn't lost since the amateur day, so it would've been a long time since you felt defeat, what did that feel like? I mean, how did you handle that? It's disappointing because I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel not one moment of sadness. And people say it's because of the money, but it wasn't because of the money. It's because that I stopped caring about just winning in general. Like my competition edge was just not there. It was like, okay, I did the big fight. Great. You know, I don't know what was missing. It was just me kind of fed up with all the shit I had to go through and just me not giving a rat's ass about anything anymore because me having to cut that way was actually really hard for me and me not being able to gain the weight. Like I was already pissed off and I just I was mad because nobody seemed to actually like really take that serious. Like part of my team like nah, this is hurting me to make this weight. They were just watching me like you got it. You got it. Like I didn't have it, you know, so when I lost it was just like I don't give a shit. Like I came in with a separated rib and all this stuff and you know, I was just like I don't I don't care but looking matters like bro. Why didn't I care? That's crazy. Like I should care and then little later on me like a month later. It was like oh shit like I did lose that happened and they kind of hit me and I was like, I'm never going to lose again. I don't want to lose again and I'm going to I'm going to erase the things I was doing, you know, I was not not being a professional always in being a professional but like I said, sometimes you got to lose to realize I got to make a change here. Like it's not just it's not fun and games. Like this is a real sport. You could get hurt. You said there you need to sharpen that edge to be more sharpen that competitive edge. How is Derek influence that just always meant speaking truth to me and being like type of a like a mentor and really talking to me like, okay, Ryan, like remember you earned this are you going to earn this every time you go and get in the ring? You know, you're there because you earned it and just speaking things like that to me. Like he's always just giving me, you know, a life of ice and just boxing of ice and my okay. He's like always correcting me on my technique and and things that I need to work on. So, you know, Derek just a really great trainer, you know there for me when you chose Derek James unwanted it made a lot of sense. He's an incredible trainers had a lot of success a lot of high-profile guys. One of things I thought though was that one of the reasons you left Eddie Renoso was because you wanted more hands-on attention. You wanted to be the guy in a way to whatever trainer you were working with. Derek's got a lot of guys a lot of high-level guys. You'd be one of those guys. Why was it different? Why is it different in this situation as opposed to what you didn't like in the Canelo camp? Well, Derek has a he scheduled himself, you know, he's the type of dude that he plans and schedules. So he gives guys the full time and Derek's training me every single time every day at the exact same time from a certain time to when we end. So he has his stuff together. He's organized. So it's not really I don't have an experience. And he like, oh, I got to train this guy first or whatnot. And, you know, looking back on it. I don't know if I left Eddie because of you know, I got to be only one training. It wasn't really like it wasn't for that reason. It was other things, you know, and you know, now I feel like we got a better relationship to I want to make that clear like me and Eddie and Canelo. We were cool. Everything is good. I was just again, mad about some certain thing happened to Jim. That was it. but, you know, now, now it's good, you know, Derek has everything organized, ready to train at this certain time and boom, it's clear stuff. Did you give any thought at any point to going back to to Eddie then, you know, the prodigal son returns to the gym. Yeah, no, there was discussions. It was discussion of me going back with Eddie, but you know, just things didn't work out and and, you know, I felt like Derek was the better fit for me on certain things.

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
A highlight from 3 Points with Chris Mannix - Clippers Continue to Lose
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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
Fresh update on "si" discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"First round, you know, Urgachev is just coming out. Just throwing bombs. Like, you know, it looks like a bodybuilder. You're sitting there going, no, there's no way Matias could hold up on this. But Matias for like a round and a half just took everything that Urgachev had to offer. Then that like third round kicked in and Matias started throwing back. And once he started throwing back, you could tell Urgachev was like, holy shit. Like, I'm not used to this. Like Urgachev, for all his knockouts, Urgachev had not fought anybody. Like his resume was paper thin when it comes to elite level competition. Matias has not fought a ton of world beaters either, but his resume was a little bit better. And you get to that point. What was at the end of the fifth round? I think is when it ended at the end of the fifth round. Like, I don't know what Urgachev officially said was the reason, but that was a pretty glaring example of a fighter screaming. No mas like wanted nothing more to do with the pounding that Subaru. El Matias had delivered on him for about three rounds towards the end of that fight. So Matias is a belt at 140. He is obviously entertaining. Is he the best at 140 right now? Because Junior Walter waits now, one of the best divisions in boxing. At Tofiba Lopez, who has a world title, you can see Regis Progrig go up against Devin Haney for another version of that world title. But where do you put Matias on this list? Well, he's not the best. You know, I know that, you know, there's a particular person who's in your Twitter DMs who has felt that way for quite some time. And, you know, maybe they're starting to get to you a little bit. They're starting to break you down like Matias does to his opponents. I will say that, like, I don't think it would be fair to rate him as the best fighter in the division, but I also don't count him out against any of those fighters above him. And I think that there are questions about a lot of those fighters that are ranked above him. You know, the Josh Taylors, even Teofimo Lopez, you know, Regis Progrig. There's reasons to have questions about them. And there's reasons to have questions about Matias too, because his level of opposition isn't as high as those other names that I just mentioned. But Matias seems to be on an upswing. And some of those names that I just mentioned, they're coming off performances where, performances even, you know, most recently or in recent history where you have some questions. And that becomes tempting, you know, in your mind. You start to think, well, you know, would Matias start to run over these guys? I don't know whether he would or he wouldn't, but he's a very unpleasant knight for anyone that he runs up against. And his punch output, and in talking to the people that he trains with, the way that he trains at altitude, this is a man with a different level of cardio and a different level of fitness. And he has the capacity to throw a number of punches that can overwhelm anyone in that division. And so I'm looking forward to seeing him take those challenges. And I'm not entirely convinced that he would be out of his depth. He does have a loss on his resume. He did lose a decision to Petro Sanadian or avenge that loss later on. So you give him credit for that. So it's not like he's unbeatable, but he does seem like a guy that's just kind of getting better. Like he's improving every single fight. And when you have that kind of chin, and he took some shots from Erkeshm, when you have that type of chin and that type of motor and that type of power, you're going to be a handful for a lot of people. For him, the king of 140, you're right, I do have a guy in my Twitter DMs who constantly sends me paragraphs about Subriel Matias. Like just constantly, even before this last fight. Like it was this whole, this is the fight that Subriel Matias is going to be coronated as the king of 140. We'll slow our roll there. But that was an impressive win. Facing another power puncher in a world title defense, he got the job done. He made a good fighter absolutely quit.

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
Fresh update on "si" discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
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The MMQB NFL Podcast
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We had four games that everybody thought were gonna be great and as it turned out, three of them were pretty good. One of which was a blowout. We'll get to all them here in a minute then of course we have our week 10 lines of five games that we're gonna focus on from our SI Sportsbook odds and then from there we also have the midseason awards that we have to get to as we are halfway home in the 2023 NFL season. Before we get to all that, let's welcome the other man of the tandem, Gil, what's going on man? How you been? Yeah, I'm doing well. Matt, as you know, I like to brag about my wins and complain about my losses and last week was a good week. I went 12 -2 with the picks but I am pretty disappointed that I betted against Joshua Dobbs. What a game, right? Unbelievable. I'm annoyed. You went 12 -2, I went 11 -3 and I feel like 11 -3 should have given me some bragging rights for the week and yet it did not happen. So I will say on the whole, our group, yourself, myself, Connor, Orr, Albert Breer, Mitch and John our editors and Claire, another editor of ours as well that does great work, I feel like everybody's picks have been really pretty good this year. There are some years you look at picks and go, oh my god, I'm barely above 500. Right now, I've got the sheep pulled up in front of me, so the best record is Albert who's 95 -41, went 11 -3 last week and then after that, Claire Kawana is right behind him with 92 wins and then in gold it says 87 wins and then it's myself, yourself, John and then Connor Orr at 75 and 65 pulling up the rear, so Connor's got to step up. Connor is bringing down the credibility of this entire group. That's not bad for last play, so 10 games over 500? His thing is, we all do our upset picks and he's done 50 upset picks. I think I've done like 16. So that's part of the reason, but yeah, the picks are good and of course people that want to can read those over at SI .com, we put them out every week. The editors are nice enough to put that together. All right, so last week, like I said, we had some great games. We had Chiefs Dolphins over in Germany and then we had Ravens, Seahawks, which we thought would be a great game, turned out to be a massacre, Late Window, Cowboys, Eagles, which was one of the wildest games I can remember seeing in quite some time and then of course we had Bills, Bengals at the end, the Sunday night game there and so like I said, we'll get to all those. Let's just start with how the day actually started. Over in Frankfort, Chiefs build up a 21 -0 lead on Miami. Miami comes back, makes it 21 -14. They had a couple drives at the end where they could have tied the game, even taken the lead if they went for two. They got into Kansas City territory both times, but both times ended up going backwards, lose the game. They dropped to 6 -3. Chiefs, of course, improved to 7 -2. Both teams go on their bye weeks. I'll So, let you set the stage here, Gilberto. What is it to you, is it more about the Dolphins that game or is it more about the Chiefs? It is more about the Dolphins because they can't beat a team with a winning record and don't tell me the Chargers are .500 and the Dolphins beat them. They barely got to .500, so I am concerned about the Dolphins, but I don't want to let the Chiefs off the hook, Matt, and I know you've been writing about this, but the Dolphins have been pretty average. It got to a point where now Mahomes is saying, yeah, we sting. We're pretty bad. Go talk about the defense. That defense is carrying us the entire season. You know what's kind of funny, Matt? This season, it feels like the team with the best defense might win the Super Bowl, and the Chiefs still have the best defense right now, it feels like, so it's kind of a weird irony, but you expect better from Mahomes and Kelsey, but the wide receivers, they can't create separation. And it wasn't for that awesome fumble, reverse play, whatever it was from Cook there. They would have probably lost a game there, but what's going on with the Dolphins offense? Averaging 17 points against the Bills, Eagles, and the Chiefs, so I go with the Dolphins there because I feel like the Chiefs could figure it out. It's halfway point in the season, they're just cruising by, and I think something will finally break out there, but I'll let you maybe talk about the Chiefs a little more. But the Dolphins, man, you're supposed to be the most explosive offense, highest scoring, and you can't even get a first down. It's like, do they have too many home run hitters? Too many touchdown makers? How about some chain movers? How about some first down people? How about some quick outs, and just get four or five yards, and everything just feels like a home run, and they don't adjust, and they don't kind of make end game adjustments because credit to the Chiefs, and Tyreek Hill said it too, they covered, there was great coverage on Tyreek Hill, so it's kind of one of those games where like, why not get a tight end that can help you out here? Why not get some guys that can make it easier? How about go to Raheem Oster a little more? He had like 12 carries, and he's averaging 7 .1 yards per carry, so I don't know what's going on with Mike McDaniel on two, and two was pretty bad in that second half there. Yeah, he had the touchdown to Cedric Wilson, but make some adjustments, Mike McDaniel, and stop going for the home run ball, Tua. Yeah, look, first of all, I agree, I think the Dolphins are the bigger storyline coming out of the game. Like, they've now played three really good teams, and they've lost all three of them, and they came back against Kansas City, but they were getting killed in that game too. They were 21 -0 midway through the third quarter, and frankly, if Chris Jones doesn't take one of the dumbest personal fouls you've ever seen, it's probably 21 -7, and we're having a different discussion. I think your point though, man, is good with the Dolphins in the sense of like, there's timing strung off. They're just dead in the water. They have no answer for it, and we've seen that now multiple times, this year and last year. Kansas City basically said, we're going to get up on the line of scrimmage, we're going to get our hands on Tyreek Hill, we're going to reroute them, we're going to cause problems. Look, who knows them better than the Chiefs, right? I mean, they know what can cause some issues, and they actually went back and watched practice tape of a couple years ago to try to figure out how to stop them. They went back and watched how they worked against him in team drills and practice, and tried to figure out some things, and it obviously worked. But from the Chiefs' angle of this, listen, the offense is a disaster, okay? They had 46 yards in the second half of the game in a turnover. But they're 7 -2 in the number one seed in the AFC because the defense is incredible, and they're just shutting people down left and right. If you go and look this year at teams that have played the Chiefs, nobody's thrown for 300 yards. Kirk Cousins came the closest. He was up in the higher 200s because he threw a million passes. But if you look at Gough's numbers, 253 yards, one touchdown, which was a good game. That was without Chris Jones that week. Trevor Lawrence, they didn't score a touchdown. He threw 41 times for 216 yards. Justin Fields threw for 99 yards. Zach Wilson, of all people, had one of the best days against him, 245 and two touchdowns. That game. wild And then you had Cousins, who went for 284 and two touchdowns on 47 attempts. Russell Wilson threw for 95 yards one game, and in the other game, the game that they won, he threw for 114. These teams, two I didn't throw for 200 yards. Nobody's throwing for yardage against them. They're second in the league in sacks, the first in pressure rate. They've got two elite corners in McDuffie and Sneet, and so, look, the question with Kansas City is obvious. Can this offense get going? Because if the offense gets going, they're probably the best team in the NFL. I mean, if they get even borderline top -10 production out of that offense, forget it. They have the week now to scout. I was texting with some people around the team, and I think there's a general thought of like, look, it's a bunch of little things that are throwing off the whole thing. Question is, how many of those little things can you fix in the next couple of months? The good news is you have Mahalem, you have Kelsey, you've got a good offensive line, you've got Andy Reid. The bad news is they have you and me at receiver. So, I mean, that's the question. My guess? They'll fix it to an extent. I don't think it's going to be a unit that you'll look at and go, oh my God, they're incredible. I think it's probably going to be a top -10 unit right around there at the end of the year. They're in the mix, but yeah, I agree, man. The Dolphins are definitely the thing that you'll look at right now, and the team you'll look at right now and go, all right, you're going to make the playoffs, but what are you going to do when you get there? Are you going to beat somebody good, or is there going to be a one -and -done? Matt, let me ask a quick question, because you watch this team closely, and I think I watch them good enough because they're always on prime time, but all these analytics people are saying, look at the EPA, look at the DVOA. They're top five in offense in all these categories, and I'm like, I get it. You keep showing me the numbers, but I keep watching the games, and the wide receivers are not that great. They're not scoring points. They had nine points against Denver, so I don't know what it is. Maybe when you said disaster, I'm like, okay, cool, because I was trying to play it safe. Maybe they're average because there's something here that I'm missing with the DVOA and the EPA. They're a disaster by their standards. By anyone else's standards, yeah, they're probably still an above -average offense, but by their standards, they're a train wreck. I will say this. People forget it because they won the Super Bowl last year. They were somewhat of a train wreck offensively the first half of last year, too. They had a bunch of games last year. They lost to the Colts last year. They muddled through a Chargers game that they ended up winning because of a pick -six that went 99 yards the other way. They struggled offensively against the Bills. They ended up beating the Raiders on a Monday night last year, but they were down 17 -0, and they needed to come back in that game. They were not good offensively for stretches of last season, and then they're them. In January, they cranked it up, and that was it. Even on one ankle, Mahomes did enough to win. But this has been the year before that. They were 3 -4 at the beginning of the year. They couldn't score a point in that season. That was the year Mahomes played, again, by his standards, not by anybody else's, but by his standards. He played poorly. You go to 2021, and they lost in the AFC title game. They were 3 -4, and then people say, oh, well, then they came out of it. They did in terms of that they won games. Their point totals after that 3 -4 start, they won 20 -17, 13 -7. Then they blew the Raiders out, scored 41, 19 -9, 22 -9. The last couple of years, they've had stretches like this, but by their standards, they're a disaster offensively right now. By the NFL's standards, they're probably somewhere between 10 -12th in the league offensively. So, got to take it for what it's worth. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the next game here. The Bengals and the Bills will go right to Sunday Night Football, speaking of a team that by their standards is an offensive disaster, despite what EPA will tell you. I'm not here to bag on the analytics, guys. I will tell you this. I'm a big eye test guy. You watch the Bills. My eye test, I don't care that they're fourth or whatever in EPA offensively. They have not been good over the last month and change. I don't think there's any way to say that otherwise. They go to Cincinnati. They made it a little bit closer at the end, but they were down 24 -10 with a few minutes left. They score a touchdown. They get the two, but they can't get the ball back. The Bengals now, 5 -3. Winners of four straight playing like we expected them to play at the beginning of the year. The Bills are 5 -4. It has been a struggle for them. They started the year 3 -1. Since then, they're 2 -3 going in the other direction. They have a very hard schedule. We'll get to that in a moment. What was your main takeaway from that Bengals -Bills game? Just the difference in quarterback play between Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and how to cover that game. I wrote about it. I kept seeing Joe Burrow moving around the pocket and extending plays. Then I look at the boxer, I'm like, wait, he has four rushing yards? I thought he ran for a bunch of yards. I know he had that one where he had the first down kind of signal. It's just when pressure comes, he knows how to move. It's smooth. It's not like he has to speed it up. He just says, okay, cool. You're right there, but I'm still going to do what I have to do and just extend plays. Matt, when it's Drew Sample and Tanner Hudson and Erskine Jr., Trenton Irwin, these guys are making plays. Then you look at Josh Allen, when the pressure comes, it looks difficult. It's chaotic. He has to kind of see what's out there and then, okay, force a throw or miss a throw. I get the Bengals defense is better than the Bills defense, so Burrow had maybe an easier time, but there was pressure. He was fighting pressure. I get it. The second there is not as good there, but it just seems harder for Josh Allen.

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What was your reaction as you're watching Fury and Ghanu transpire? Yeah, I think I was surprised. Like most people, Chris, I didn't think that it would be all that competitive. I did think Fury would have to be wary of Ghanu's power because the guy obviously can punch. I didn't know what his delivery system would look like or anything like that, which Tyson Fury himself said he didn't know either because when I spoke to Tyson Fury about maybe eight, nine days before the fight, whatever it was, he said, look, I'm not putting any stock in these videos that they're releasing because I don't know if I were doing something on a video that I were putting out to the world, I wouldn't show what I'm trying to do. So he goes, I'm assuming he didn't really show what he's capable of doing. So if he did underestimate him, it wasn't based on that. And he kind of said, after the fight, he said, look, I didn't underestimate him. 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"Saludos a todos aquellos que nos decuchas en dicias y para nosotros es un placer que ustede tenco nosotros una ver a mas y como siempre nuestra querida Lulu, Hano, David, y nuestra querido Andres con nosotros y nuestra una de nuestra productoras ejecudiba So today we're going to be talking about the book Galatas and what we're thinking about the discussions we're going to have during the past two episodes. Y estas por escuchar en podcasto. Dicias y. Comenzamos. Cambió su imagen de Pablo. O tal vez, no se sí, hacer la preguntos. O hacerme la preguntamí mal bien. Yo soy el que estado más anti -Paulino de diaze tiempo. Esta... No se. Te gusto. Te gusto Pablo en este acarta. No se. No se. Yo saba legendo. Bueno, estaba escuchando un podcaste de Bart Ehrman. Y el estaba hablando de como. El formato que utilizaba Pablo y estas cosas era. De ira muchas iglesias. De abrir las, de formar las, dejar al grupo que se encargaba o la casa. Y después, se suponía que les escribía cartas relatimamente, comodo de veces al año. Cartas bien bien serías y después cartas pequeñitas. Entonces esta funcion de Pablo estar escribiendo un montón de cartas. Er algo muy normal. Y solo tenemos siete verdad. Cuando devieron haber existido sientos, desiento, desientos. Entonces, esta muy triste pensar que todas esta tíología se aformado solamente de esta siete que tenemos. Que se logran ya entre los profesionales y academico desir que esta siete síson realmente del. Y no se es complejo pensar que tenemos una tampokito de la visión de Pablo. Y ha una sí esto fe sufiente para construir todo el cristianidmo que tenemos ahora. a Entonces, un que en esta carta, un que gala, tas puedo un pablo más universalista, más pensando en la gente, tratando de salir de todas las cosas que yo detesto de las traditionales, de estas cosas que a carriaban por años, de las circumstances que la carne, a una siento que me frustra saber que con esto se construyó todo lo que conocenos en este momento. Y no puedo no ver los huecos o lo diferente que ver a puedo habercido, si veramos puedo habener más cosas. Y no solo de Pablo, verdad un muchísimas personas que escribián. Entonces, no se yo estado pensando para el final dese episodio, tengo una semana pensando que puedo decir, porque no se si cambió algo, no se si me diosperanza, no se si me ayudo a mi personalmente. No se que piensa en los tres. I think that I think that if we were to have a much more material in the way we base our children, there is no sufficient way. There is always a good way and I think that they are super good at the good way. Y estado crito, estado dito y no hay paseo para que dios y gaba hablando moviendo, se doe es arroyando la idea y la volucion del pensamiento, y se han un cueramos volucionado tambuoco. Como crencia, no? Como y delugia. Si y con la liberta que tenemos arrita. Y hací y pele ang y no se ponen da cual, imáginen se situdieran dos 40 caltas adicionales, que erán, que lo que habese no entenemos, erán caltas que se cribián es precipicamente para tradal una situación en ese iglesia local. Y queremos hacer la deología universal cuando aycosa inclusiva, que dentro de la míma iglesia pablo cambiado opinion, porque en la primera calta por ejemplo a lo corintio, el hablo una cosa y en la segunda para que dicen que no en la segunda, que hablo mejor vera la tercero la cualta cambiado opinion, y dice mira yo en el anterio el diegerto, pero a lo mejor fum pogo muy severo, que tal sí hacemos estí. Se giobedona. Ahora, no de me quedé. Se que he doas y. Pero que en folto el último que diego.

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SI Media Podcast
A highlight from Joe Buck and Troy Aikman
"I'm Mo Rocca and I'm excited to announce season four of my podcast Mobituaries. I've got a whole new bunch of stories to share with you about the most fascinating people and things who are no longer with us. From famous figures who died on the very same day to the things I wish would die, like buffets. Listen to Mobituaries with Mo Rocca on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Trainor. Thank you so much for listening. We have an awesome episode this week. We have Joe Bock and Troy Aikman together followed by our weekly train of thought segment with his alakada, Joe and Troy entering year number, well not entering, they're in year number 22 together and they will top John Madden and Pat Sumrall for the longest broadcast crew in the NFL with 22 years together. So we discussed that and a variety of other topics. Talked to Joe about if he'll ever call baseball again. Got Troy's opinions on the tush push, what's going on with Bill Belichick, some broadcasting stuff, Tom Brady. So excellent, excellent stuff from Joe and Troy from ESPN. Monday Night Football. And then in train of thoughts, we read some mailbag questions. We're going to start doing that every week on the podcast. So check that out. Before we get to it, just a quick reminder, if you missed any recent episodes, go into the archives and check them out. We had Brian Curtis from The Ringer on last week, Andrew Marchand and the New York Post two weeks ago, Kevin Clark from ESPN three weeks ago. So if you missed any of those, check them out. Give them a listen, subscribe to SI Media with Jimmy Trainor and rate and review on Apple. All right, let's get to it. Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, followed by train of thoughts all right here, right now on SI Media with Jimmy Trainor. All right. Very excited. I've had them both separately many times on the podcast, but I have them together. The broadcast crew, the best broadcast crew in the NFL from ESPN, Monday Night Football. Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Joe, Troy, how are you guys doing? Good. We're good. I have a question already. You said the best broadcast crew in the NFL from ESPN's Monday Night Football. Was that the best broadcast crew in the NFL? And they're also from ESPN's Monday Night Football? Or is it just of all the people that ESPN has doing the NFL, we're the best group? Well, since you brought that up, then I'll just tell everyone that two weeks ago, I believe it was during the giant Seahawk game, I that tweeted Troy is so far and away the best analyst in the sport right now that the gap between him and number two is really wide. And Dan Arlovski actually replied to me on Twitter and was like, hey, you know, like what about me? So I did mean across the entire NFL. Anybody want to respond to that? Troy's just laughing away over there. Yeah. No, thank you for the compliment. It means a lot. It does. It does mean a lot. You know, it's kind of a funny thing. You know, you don't get most of the feedback you get is negative and it's people on Twitter and it's people that are ripping you and saying you're a moron. And, you know, to have somebody who watches this stuff and pays attention saying that is nothing that I take lightly. I think it's great. Thank you very much. Well, I appreciate that. We're going to get into all this stuff and it's your 22nd year together. And I want to talk about that. But I do listen and watch very carefully. So I heard something this past Monday night that I'd like to sort of maybe facilitate here on the pod where Joe you because I am a degenerate gambler. So anytime there's a bet involved my ears perk up. Joe, you offered Troy a hundred bucks if Troy could name four players on the Texas Rangers. I thought this would be the perfect time to see if Troy can do that and then you can pay him when you see him on Monday. Let's see. Pudge Rodriguez, Nolan Ryan, Alex Rodriguez. So no hundred bucks for Troy. No hundred bucks. I was the easiest bet I've ever made in my life. There you go. I love that moment, though. And I think that moment because Steve Ackles, our producer, who's phenomenal, clip that somebody had that on Twitter and sent that to us the next day kind of like, okay, love this for you two guys. And it is I think it does kind of speak to our relationship and it speaks to our friendship and it speaks to the fact that he came back with, you know, there was a time in October I didn't have to work with you. I was so happy that like I was I love that, that he came back at me. So it's that stuff is really fun and I think hopefully separates us. It was definitely a fun moment. You want to offer Troy 50 bucks if he can name one Texas Ranger? Yeah. No, I'm not doing that to him. I like him too much. I'm not going to do that to him. I mean, they advance. You got to now you got to learn one player on the team. Nate Evaldi. There you go. Like I said, you guys now, 22 years together, Madden and Summerall did 21. I know, I know, Troy, you are a huge, huge Madden guy. Yeah. Talk to me about it. Yeah. I know Madden sort of took you under his wing a little bit, right? A little bit, but it didn't, the friendship didn't initially start that way. You know, first of all, I was really fortunate in my career that when we got good, which happened relatively quickly, all things considered, Madden and Summerall, they were, they narrated my, the highlight reels of my career. So, you know, I'm, I'm really happy about that, but, but because of that, because they covered so many of our games, I became very close friends with them on a personal level. Pat lived just outside of Dallas. I spent time, you know, at holiday parties with him. I did a TV show with him while I was playing for two seasons, a weekly show. And then Madden got to know him, spent 4th of July's with him up in Northern California. And played golf with him. And so then when I retired and decided to go into broadcasting, I, yeah, I picked his brain a lot. And that first year we were together at Fox. And then one year later I was actually in Santa Barbara and he called me. That's how I got the news that he was leaving Fox and going to Monday night football that he called me and gave me the news and had little idea what that might mean to me. But that's when Joe and I and Chris Collinsworth got paired and moved up. But yeah, John was, he was a special friend as Pat was as well. And the fact that we're even mentioned in the same sentence with them because of our longevity, it means a lot. It's something that I'm really proud of. The worst thing you or any analyst could do is go into a broadcasting career and try to copy or imitate John Madden or be John Madden. So given that, what did you try to take from him though, when you started to do games? Well, the questions I had was just that there's a lot going on in the booth. And when you get into the booth as a player, straight from the field, it takes some time to figure out exactly what you're supposed to be looking at. Where, you know, I asked him those kinds of questions, like what do you focus on pre -snap? What are you looking at at the snap? And what I found is that, you know, he views it differently. One, because he was a coach, but also because he was a linebacker. So, you know, he views it more along the line of scrimmage. That's what he got into a lot of. Matt Millen, the same way. And then when I came into it, I was a unique analyst compared to what Fox had had at that time. And so I talked more bigger picture. I talked more from a quarterback perspective. And there was a resistance initially to where they said, hey, we need more offensive line play. And I said, well, if you need more offensive line play, then you got the wrong guy, because that's not what I do. And so everybody comes at it a little bit differently. But what John's advice was to me was, you know, hey, where your strength is right now is you're fresh off the field. You know what's happening. You know the players. Whereas his strength was that he knew television, and he had been broadcasting for a long time. So that then is what he leaned on more. And I agree. I don't try to be anybody. I mean, I do listen to all analysts. I know what I think is good and why it might be good. And with that, then you try to say, OK, yeah, maybe I should attack this in this way. But at the end of the day, I'm who I am. My personality is what it is. And I don't try to be John. And quite honestly, I think early on, there were a lot of analysts trying to be John Madden. And I understand it to a point, if he's the best, then everybody's kind of wanting to be that. But think I analysts now have been given a little bit more runway to be who they are. And I think that those analysts who have been able to do that, I think they've been better served. Joe, obviously, Troy was the player, now the broadcaster. You've been a broadcaster your whole life. So I would assume the 22 years together with Troy passing Madden in some role, longest tenured NFL broadcast crew, has special meaning to you, being in this business, with your dad being in this business, et cetera. Yeah. And I have personal ties to both guys. My dad was a broadcast partner to both. My dad did radio football with Pat. They were both at CBS for a long time. My dad was one of Madden's first TV partners. And I know John really liked my dad and obviously vice versa. So I always had that connection to John and to Pat when I would show up at the Fox Seminar. And I was down the list of play -by -play guys. So I do appreciate that fact. I am proud of the body of work that he and I have put together. You have to throw the first three years in there with Chris, too. And I think we're better now than we've ever been, which I think is the best part of it all. I honestly believe that. I think Troy's better than he's ever been. I think I'm more dialed in than I've ever been. Maybe that's without baseball and not kind of running on fumes during this particular month on the calendar. But to think, at least in my opinion, we're still growing and still getting better. And that, to me, is more exciting than milestones. When I was the youngest this and the youngest that, I just had to go do it. I didn't really get caught up in all that stuff. And at the end of the day, nobody really cares other than my family. So, you know, I'm proud of everything I've done with the other guy on this podcast. And I'm really proud of everything I've done with you, Jimmy, over the years. I feel like we've done some good work, too. We have. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to grill you later on some things. No, that's fine. I hope so. We've got some things to discuss. Just on your 22 years before we switched gears, did either of you have, it could be different, a moment, a game, a season where you felt like, we're really good, we're in a groove, this is working, this is kind of special? Like, when did you first feel that? I think right out of the gate, I knew it was pretty interesting. I think it was very different, obviously, with another person in there, being Chris, and Chris and Troy being very different people. And very different broadcasters. By the way, I think that's really the only time it kind of works, when the two analysts in a three -man booth are different. And that was certainly the case with Chris and Troy. But I never felt like we weren't in a good rhythm. I never felt like we were a bad listen. I do feel like once you get through your first Super Bowl and you come back around and you're lined up for the next year, and now Chris had moved on, and it was Troy and me, it didn't take long, that fourth year total, for us to get into an even better rhythm, because it was almost like the weight was off. The weights, the handicap was off. And that has nothing to do with Chris. It could have been anybody. But I think three -man booths are very hard. And when it was just the two of us, it became very easy to get into a rhythm together. And he knew when I stopped talking, it was his turn. I knew when he stopped talking, at some point it was my turn, as opposed to having another person in there. So I think I would say year four is when it felt like, okay, this is really good, I enjoy this, and hopefully it lasts for a while. Troy, you got anything on that? Yeah, no, I would basically agree. I don't think there was this moment when, hey, this is really good, or hey, this works. I know that I had been in a three -man booth my first year with Moose, and then three years following that with Chris. I mean, I knew four games into my career with Moose that three -man booth was tough, and it wasn't something that I really wanted to continue to do. So I was excited when it became a two -man booth. And you just control the broadcast a little bit more, and you're not scatter -shooting after every play and chasing a lot of different things. So that part of it was good. And I would just add this, Jimmy, and Joe and I have talked about it, and we've talked about it on other podcasts and with other writers, that when you get to 22 years, there's a lot of things that have gone well for you. I mean, there's other pairings that could have lasted that long as well, but it was not because of anything they could control. And there was changes made, or this network lost football, or whatever it might be, you know, or this guy wanted to retire. Joe and I came in, you know, we're roughly the same age. I'm a little bit older. But when I left for ESPN, there was no certainty that Joe was going to be able to get out of his contract, so there was a lot going on there. And I think that had Joe not wanted to come to ESPN or if I had not wanted Joe to work with Joe any longer, we both had equal opportunities to kind of take a stand and say, hey, this has been great for, you know, 20 years, but, you know, it's time to kind of move on. We could have very easily have done that. And I think the fact that we're still working together, it's one thing to say, hey, you really respect the guy and you're really close friends, but I think that both of us going to ESPN and continuing to work, you know, you really put an exclamation mark at the end of that. And it meant a lot to me. I mean, I can't even begin to tell you how much it's meant to me that Joe wanted to come and continue to work with me. And I think it's fair to say that it meant as much to him that I wanted to continue to work with him. And so if anything else, going to ESPN has only made our relationship that much stronger. The parallel is interesting because here you are passing Madden and Summerall, and Madden and Summerall, and you guys are the rare teams that stayed together at different networks. They were obviously at CBS for a million years. CBS loses the NFL. They went together to Fox. I'm sure, you know, NBC at the time who had the rights trying to get them or Monday Night Football, but they stayed together. And then here you guys are, Troy goes to ESPN. Joe wasn't there yet. It was Troy leaving first. And then you guys end up together. It's an interesting parallel to Madden and Summerall that you remain together. I mean, John ended up having other partners afterwards, but, you know, we work with Al Michaels, but it's an interesting - I'm pretty sure John ended up at every network. Yeah, he did, I think. You know, when it was all said and done. And yeah, I'm just as proud of that. And I do like that parallel that Pat and John stayed together and he and I stayed together. And it's just, this business is too weird and it's too tough at times who not knowing is standing next to you and what they're all about and what their motives are and if they've got your back. And, you know, to have that and to have the - forget the mechanics of the broadcast and the rhythm and all that stuff. We've got that down. That's baked in. But knowing, like, even that moment that we've already talked about where I know I can throw something at him. If I was working this year with Greg Olsen and I said that, I don't know if that's gonna piss him off. I don't know if he's gonna be like, hey, why are you trying to - But Troy one -upped me by ripping me saying there was a time when I didn't have to work with you in October. That's what I'm talking about. Like, I can give him trouble. He can give it back and be better at it than me. And that is like a great moment for us. It has nothing to do with me. Like, I genuinely root for Troy to be great. And I know he does for me. And that is what it's all about. And I would imagine with Madden and Summerall not having asked him this specifically, but they fit together so well because Jon was so big and such a big presence and a personality and a wham and, you know, kind of snot hanging off the face mask and all the other stuff. And Pat was the straight man. And we're not that, but we fit together on the air in a way that I think is genuinely pleasing to ears people's and sensibilities when they're listening to the game if they bother to listen to it that closely.

SI Media Podcast
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"I'm curious, what sport have you not called that you would like to call? Well, what sport I have not called is a long list, what sport that I haven't called that I'd like to call. That you would most want to, yeah. I mean, my greatest passion is football and boxing and horse racing, and I've been blessed enough to do all three of those at the highest level. NBA, MLB, do you have any desire? MLB, when I tell you, not one speck or ounce of desire, ever. I grew up a baseball fan going to Yankee Stadium and then Shea in the 80s and, you know, all that and zero interest. Too boring? There is not a major sport in America that aligns less with me than Major League Baseball. Too much downtime, too slow. Bro, you've spent, I mean, if you know me, it is not me at all. At all. Would you, will you watch? I wish I had the skill to call hockey. I wish I, I don't. I love. When you say you don't, what do you mean? It's too, it's too fast? It's too hectic? Yeah, first of all, I grew up going to RPI hockey games, Mike Odessa and Darren Pupa, and now when they win the National Championship, maybe five. Absolutely lifelong Boston College hockey fan, go to BC games my whole time I was there and still dabbling going back to games. You know, Jerry York, he's the Nick Saban of college hockey. Yale season ticket holder, I love hockey. And then my daughter's a diehard Rangers fan, and I find as the in-arena experience, hockey blows me away. I love it. I'm not, I'm not woven into the fabric of the sport. I'm a fan. I appreciate it. Not the way football and boxing and horse racing to me. Those are the three sports I'm embedded in. You know, football is my whole life since I was a little kid, a football family. I had a horrible football injury. You know, my son's a college football player. Boxing, you know, I used to train in a gym and I'm diehard lifelong fan. I've called probably, you know, as many fights as anybody. You know, I should, who knows how many Jim Lampley's called, but I'm sure Jim Lampley and I are over 10,000 fights called in our careers. And horse racing, you know, I grew up at the Saratoga racetrack and going OTB with all my inveterate aunts and uncles every day of my life. So those are my three. And you were getting on me about being focused on over-unders and you spent your life at the OTB. Yeah, what was the double today? What did it bring back? Not the tripe.

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"That was what my grandmother had to watch. Lydia is Lydia. She's wonderful. She's a great cook. So I watch Lydia, I think, and my grandmother. You're a Nabalitan. You're a Nabalitan. I can tell by your facial confirmation. So am I. Well, you've got a little something in you. Calabrese, too. You've got a dropa calabrese. See, mesa calabrese, mesa nabalitan. That's me. When was the last time you went to Italy? Well, because of my work, I don't get back to the way my mother does. You know, my aunts and uncles live there. My cousins live there. My mother came over in 54. But the last time I was there was six years ago, and that's just because of my career. I travel every single week. Right, of course. It's nonstop. And then my kids, you know, we dedicate ourselves to whatever is going on with our kids. So this year, for a big trip, my daughter's heavily involved in sports and she had a huge international tournament in Asia. So we went to Asia for three weeks this year, which was outrageous. Which, strangely enough, you know, the Asian culture is they have a great love of Italian culture, especially in Hong Kong and actually in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. And I went into some of the best Italian food I had. Some of the best Italian restaurants I went into were in Asia. Wow. And I would walk into these places and my wife will tell you it was unbelievable. And a maitre d', a host, somebody would walk up to me and speak Italian, you know, just on site. And the many Romans and Nabalitans, you know, people from Naples, over there who were in the food and hospitality industry, and some of the best restaurants. I had a wonderful time over there experiencing my native culture through their eyes. It was wonderful. Restaurant Tosca in Hong Kong, and a couple others, Oto Meza in Hong Kong, and Marini's in Malaysia, and wonderful people, and it was tremendous. So six years ago was your last trip to Italy? Yeah, it was in my aunt and uncle, yeah. And it fell in Italy, do you know? Yeah, yeah. I'm curious if it's a big... I usually, when I would go over more consistently, I'd be there in March and we'd be watching March Madness and The International. I have relatives there, but we don't get into the sports, you know, I have relatives in Sicily. Oh, really? Yeah, they haven't asked, they were here a couple, they were here about a year ago. Yeah. They did not ask any, I should have asked them what, how American sports are there if they pay attention to it. The only thing they wanted to talk about when they were here was Trump, but I won't get into that. Yeah, they're fascinated by politics over there. I'm not, I loathe politics. When you have a deranged president, it causes havoc all over the country.

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"And Nick Folk, then a rookie kicker for the Cowboys hit a field goal, but a timeout was called before the kick. And that was before that was Vogue. It had just happened earlier that year for the first time on an NFL stage where they slam the time out to freeze the kicker raise. He's about to snap it. And then folk again hits from fifty two yards in Orchard Park. Chip Dean, who directed Monday Night Football in my my run there, Jay Rothman produced chip being directed chip cut to Jerry Jones like an all time great Jerry Jones. Yeah. Clinch fist shot. It was just it was just a really cool game because the night in Orchard Park was this din. So you mentioned quarantine. They showed that game back. ESPN had a bunch of Monday night classics and they're like three or four great games in a row that I was a part lucky enough to be a part of. Like the Saints Monday night return after Katrina, which is my best moment that I've been involved with. But for a game, it's the other one. And I watched that game and I've since gotten to know Tony Romo a little bit. Well, you know, maybe a couple of times a year, text back and forth. And I texted Tony. I said, I don't know if you're watching this game, but I apologize in advance for anything bad I said about you. It was terrible that game. Yeah. And I'm sure Tony had a funny, funny response back because he got back to you with a good laugh and a smile. I was like, I'll get back to you. I'll let you know after I watch. So it was fun. Here's Joe Tessitore from September twenty eighteen. Besides Cosell, who are your favorite announcers? I'm a Brent guy. I love Brent. So you were there. You were there the first Monday night game. It was Rams Raiders. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My guy came over to say hello. Brent now doing the games on the radio. He came over looking like part Johnny Cash, part Al Davis. He was in like a black leather jacket, a black shirt, a black sunglasses. I was like, what is this? It was like Brent's living it up in the desert. Oh, he's like, Mr. Vegas. So if ever there is a job for the late autumn of his career, it's this one right here. You know, it's one of those weird things where, like, you know, you're always shocked when someone leaves ESPN and for Brent to leave ESPN. And, you know, there's always who knows if he left, he was pushed out, whatever. You always hear rumbling. But well, but to leave, he is going to Vegas and start your own gambling network. What a dude. And then and then out of nowhere, you know, seventy five, seventy six years old, he gets this play by play gig with the Raiders. Oh, I mean, it's it's a great story. He's an absolute all timer. Great story. You know, it's funny. I've actually obviously we do the same job, but there were times in our career we worked together, which was a thrill. So when we had the Triple Crown on ABC back in the day and I was the host with Jerry Bailey and Randy Moss, the current Mike Torrico or what was the Tom Hammond role at NBC. So I had that for six, seven years. So we did, you know, all the Derby started in the Belmont, the Breeders' Cup and all that. And Brent had this sort of venerable host bring us on the air, bring us in and out of commercial break, which meant for like six days I'd be at the racetrack with Brent. Derby week, Creek this week, Belmont week, Breeders' Cup week, those reading the racing forum with him, having breakfast. I remember the Garden City Hotel having coffee and breakfast, sitting there at the forum with Brent the night before the Derby, going out with our wives. Oh, man. And you want to see him in his element now. Keep going. I don't want you to stop the story. Yes, I'm a Brent fan. Yeah, I like Brent. I like a lot of guys. But I guess I like Brent because there's all there's a little bit of Brent that that I can easily relate to. Yeah, sort of, you know. Yeah. I like Keith Jackson. I need a Brent story from the track, though, if you were there for six days with him, I need something. No, I can't remember. Specific. I'm sure there were some bad beats or some really funny moments and some laddies, but it's just the way he carries. This guy's got swag like nobody's got swag. So he carries himself the way he talks. It's so funny to me. Brent had me on his Vison serious radio show last night. He puts me on on Monday nights to talk about prop bets for the Monday Night Game. Right, right, right. And I said so he has me on with two of his little wise guys, Odds Maker, Sharks, you know. So I said to you know, so they they're asking me some questions. I said, I got to ask you guys a question. Tell me the books. Did did anybody have the bills straight up on Sunday? Oh, against the Vikings? What was the money line on that? It was like plus three thousand or plus a thousand. I don't even know what. Right. And Floyd Mayweather opponents. Yeah. Money line. And one of the guys goes, oh, yeah, someone had the bills straight up to my. And it was Brent. Did he really? Brent had the bills to win. Yes. Wow. What more do you need to know about Brent? When he joined your podcast? Yeah. This is before he took the Raiders job. Yeah. Didn't you say he should call the Las Vegas ball? Yeah. Well, I said I said he is. The Las Vegas ball is going to be big time now. The conference affiliation is jumping up. I said, will that be able to happen, though, now with his. Well, yeah, I think, yeah, we have to get Joe on the bandwagon to call that ESPN. I said at the time before he had the Raiders game, ESPN should have brought him out of retirement for one game. And it should be the Las Vegas ball. Yeah. I mean, he's there. Las Vegas ball is going to be a great bowl in the coming years. Great when the stadium gets open. I think it's going to be Big 12, Pac 12. Right. So it's going to be. Yeah. It's going to be a great game. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of you. Everything's through the prism of over unders with you. Yeah. You got this. You know, this is this is a business. So you mentioned Keith Jackson as well. Yeah. Yeah. Who doesn't love Keith Jackson? Yeah, absolutely. A lot of guys. I got a lot of respect for a lot of guys. I'm not you know, I like passion based broadcasters. I like, you know, big moments. Guys who get so into it that, you know, there's a lot of guys I like. Do you ever. It's funny because I had Gus in. And I admire guys who have talents and traits and characteristics that I don't have as well. Is being too loud or too over the top ever a concern for you? Well, I just as long as I'm being authentic, I really don't give a. Right. As long as I'm me, what do I give? Right. You know, some people say I know that that's a criticism with some announcers that some announcers are too loud. You know, I mean, I don't care. I mean, if if it's all it's all about being authentic. Like I always explain television this way in terms of using that, of using that as as, you know, the threshold of, you know, being the spectrum of, OK, you're forcing it. You're contrived. You're being crazy. You're being authentic is cooking shows for years and years where local access TV, boring, as bland as horribly produced things. And why would you watch it? Just go right past them. And then somewhere in the 90s, you know, Portuguese immigrant guy from New Bedford who went down to New Orleans, was doing bam and throwing spices. But this is how he talked. And that's how passionate he was about throwing spice on top of shrimp. He was authentic. And also we're watching TV shows and all of a sudden we got celebrity chefs. Right. Because Emeril Lagasse was authentic. For me, it was Justin Wilson with the red suspenders, the Creole guy. Oh, he's that guy with the white mustache. Yeah. He had the glasses. Oh, yeah. He wore the blues shirt with the red suspenders. If you're Italian, though, there's only one cooking show right now. I'm going to go totally... Currently? Yeah. What's currently that you like? Lydia. Oh, she's phenomenal. Lydia's your son, Joe. You know Joe? I know who he is. I've never met him. Joe Bastianich? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know where he went to college? Where? With me, Boston College. There you go. Did Lydia ever cook for you? No, Lydia. No, but I love the restaurant up on Upper East Side. No, Lydia I love now. The braised prawns of Lydia with the pesto is tremendous. My grandmother used to come over to my parents house every Sunday and we'd all watch.

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"Yeah, I was the BAM LSU game Saturday. LSU was up fifty two to fourteen and. No, Alabama was up fifty to fourteen and LSU kicked a field goal in the second half to me. I'm like, well, what are we doing here? But the coaches are we did we did Syracuse Notre Dame at Yankee Stadium two years ago. And Syracuse's quarterback, Eric Dungy, got hurt. Notre Dame's blowing them out. And we thought it was going to be a really good game at Yankee Stadium being a New York kid, a Syracuse alum doing the Notre Dame games. It was like it was Christmas in November. Right. Yeah. And then Syracuse getting shut out. They kicked the field goal in the fourth quarter. I'm like, oh, come on. Well, just take the bagel and move on, man. It is what it is. Right. So it's funny because I was going to ask you and we'll get into it because you've been busy during quarantine and you've got some games coming up. But it was funny because I thought of off that Bears Packers game that you called with Tony a couple of weeks on Sunday football. I want to know you've been doing this a long time. Best game you've ever called. Worst game you've ever called. Worst game I ever called was the three nothing Steelers. Dolphins Monday night in the mud in Pittsburgh where the punt stuck right at like the forty eight yard line. I don't remember that game. You don't remember the oh, it was a it was a brutal, brutal Monday night game. We were looking at a scoreless game is a terrible game. They played the high school playoff games, as they often do at Heinz Field. The grass field was really bad. It was a monsoon of rain and emblematic of the game. Kornheiser and Jaws were in the booth with me and Pittsburgh punted. I think it was Pittsburgh punted and the ball just stuck like right nose up in the field. It was emblematic of the night, the field, the quality of the game. That was the worst game I did. So the final is three nothing. Mm hmm. Yeah. And what for Miami on Monday night or what quarter was do you remember a quarter the field goal late? It's fourth quarter. Yes. Fourth quarter towards the end of the game. You had some excitement then at least. Yeah, it was the excitement was really was anybody going to score? It was it was that bad. The best one. I don't want to get too jaded by the by the moment. But that Notre Dame Clemson game double overtime in South Bend number one forty seven forty no low in the game. Like I said, that's up there. I'll tell you like an odd win. It's not always like the biggest matchup games necessarily. We had a Buffalo Dallas Monday night game in Buffalo where Romo threw a bunch of picks.

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"Here's Mike Tirico from December of 2020. It's funny, I'll pull back the curtain here a little bit just to give the listeners a little inside story. When you did the Packers-Bears games two weeks ago, it was a blowout. You had said something about, well, if the Bears have the ball here, if they could score, they get the ball to start the second half. And I tweeted, like, good try trying to keep the audience. And you sent me a message saying, well, they did score on that first drive. They did. Where were you? You didn't get me back. I'm just curious. So when you're doing games like that, where the first half is just a complete annihilation, how demoralizing is that for you? Because despite what people think about announcers rooting for teams, all you want is a close game. And then that happens. My number one desire in a broadcast in terms of the result of the game, because really you do become agnostic here with so many teams. And, you know, people who you like, people who you get along with, whether it's GMs, team presidents, head coaches, players, all that, they move around. Right. What you really want every game, every sport, except for baseball, is that the ball is in the air. The clock says zero. And where it comes down is going to determine who won or lost. Then the viewers weren't cheated. You weren't cheated. It was a fun game. It was a bad game, a great ending. A lot of times it's a great deodorant for a bad game. So, you know, you're in the booth for a game like that and you're actually right. You're going, oh, man, this is a bummer because you don't want to get into all the stuff you've prepared. You prepared a ton of stuff. We had a bunch of stuff for Notre Dame Clemson and got to about 15 percent of it because the game never lulled and it was great. And that's that's the idea. That's that's what you want to do. So you kind of look at those things. I always look at who's getting the ball, start the second half. But I've joked on football night the last couple of years, especially in our screening room, like teams going for the full Belichick. Score the touchdown right to the end of the half. Get the ball back. Your offense sits on ice for a half hour and you look up and you're 14 points worse than you were when the offense last went off the field. So I'm always thinking about that with teams. That was Chicago's only avenue back into the game for them. So you just kind of think about that. But I'm sure you echoed with a lot of Bears fans felt. Yeah, I mean, I did it. But it's but it is you know, I sort of I always watch these games. You know, you did it in a way I thought was was fine. But, you know, what I always watch was like, I don't want announcers to insult the audience and act like, you know, I mean, there's still a lot of that that goes on. You know, I was watching a game. Should I call it out? What game was it? I think. Oh, I know what it was. What was the it was a CBS college game. It wasn't the game they had in the afternoon. It was Tennessee, Florida. Right. And they did the keys of the game when the turnover battle. You're insulting your audience at this point. Like, you know, give us something else here. Right. Right. Exactly. Well, I'll tell you what's funny from that Bears game. The game was over and Tony Dungy did the game with me. You know, our name group was on that post Thanksgiving Sunday night game like we were planning to be. And Tony said, you know, well, if you the Bears, you want to come out here, you want to get a score. It's a fourth quarter. They're losing by 30. Right. Get a score and come back at them. And I honestly did stay on the air. Really, is that going to help you at all for next week? And it was really interesting to hear a coach's perspective of, yeah, it can lay a little bit of a foundation. You know what? For the Bears, it did. They came out great guns the first three quarters. And just a reminder for us, sometimes we get a little bit a little bit sharp, a little bit edgy, a little bit, you know, in complaining mode about games or things like that. But coaches do see it in a different way. They're always trying to build for tomorrow. And it did for the Bears. And then they were they became the Lions of 2020 with what happened in the fourth quarter. Blowing it up with a straight shot.

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"Is there sort of like a, you know, a partner like that where you're going to do whatever it is, 17, 18, 19 games? Is it a situation where you've got to make sure like, all right, let's, you know, let's go to dinner once a week, let's go to dinner, I don't know, twice a month, let's try to do stuff off the air, you know, on a regular schedule just to keep that going? Or is it you can both just show up on Sunday, do the games, have chemistry, have a good broadcast, and that's it? Jimmy, I've had both. I've had relationships with my analysts where we hung out a lot and we knew a lot about one another and our families and our backgrounds. And then I've had some relationships where it wasn't as in-depth, but it still worked on the air. I don't think there's a tried and true way to do it, but I know on a personal level that if you find that common ground off the air, usually people can figure it out on the air that there is something there. So that would be my main goal. It's better if you get along, but it doesn't mean that it has to be that way. I think in this case, just knowing Charles, he's just a very affable person. He's not a superficial person. He asks a lot about you. He's a natural deflector. So when you meet people like that that are just authentically curious, that means that they truly care about the questions and answers that they get. So I don't think that's going to be much of a challenge for us. That's going to be a very simple part to the relationship, hanging out. I do think it's part of it, but you could talk to a hundred different broadcasters and they may have different philosophies on this. It's all based on ultimately what you find that works when the red light goes on and you have three hours to truly cover an event. And that trust is created between the two of you that you've got each other's back and everybody is working on the same page. I'm curious. I mean, you've done play-by-play for thousands upon thousands upon thousands of games. Charles has been the number two guy over at Fox for several years. Do you guys need a practice game or can you jump in and do a game the first Sunday of the NFL season? And give me, is there a difference in terms of doing practice with a new partner, NBA college hoops, NFL? Like is one sport you would better do something ahead of time as a practice game or is one sport or both sports you could go into a cold? What's the difference there and what about doing a practice game or two? Yeah. In my experience, I haven't had a lot of practice games. Mark May and I were paired together when I got to CBS. We had one practice game and it was a preseason game, Jacksonville against Dallas in Jacksonville. And that was also the game that I recall. I was down on the field before the game. I'm getting to know Mark May at that point, former Washington Redskins, one of the Hogs. He says, hey, come down to the field, let's check it out. I'm like, yeah, okay, sure, why not? We go down there, who walks by but Jerry Jones and the owner of the Cowboys, big personality, he and Mark May lock eyes. He goes, hey, Mark, how you doing? He says, hey, Jerry, meet my new partner, it's Iron Eagle. He goes, Iron? I said, oh, it's Iron Eagle. He says, Iron. I said, no, no, it's actually Iron Eagle. He says, Iron? I went, yep, yep, it's Iron.

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"Oh, my God, I cannot. I love it. I love it. So when you do the personal zooms with Raft, is he enjoying a cocktail late at night? I must say that Raft does enjoy a zoom cocktail. Yes, that really doesn't seem to be an issue during this current quarantine. He hasn't decided to just change that part of his life. He's embraced it. It does seem like everyone's getting through this with zoom and cocktails. So why should the Raft be any different? Exactly. That's outstanding. Outstanding. I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad he's doing well. That's good to hear. Raft on zoom. Does he drop in onions? Does he drop a lingerie? I mean, the zoom is ripe for that, you know, like everything that goes on. We've gotten to the point in our relationship that he basically asks me to do an impression of him. He doesn't have to do it. So I'm the one that's going with onions, the blow by, get the puppy set. Just a lot of Raftisms over and over. And he cracks up. That is tremendous. I'm deaf. I'm going to find that CBS show. I'm going to post that. It was cute. It was very well done. So like I said, CBS makes it official on Tuesday, Charles Davis joining CBS from Fox. And he goes right into the booth with you as the number two team behind Nance and Romo. By the way, when Romo gets, you know, whatever it is, 500 billion a year or whatever. Do you send them a text at all? And do you mention it? You know, it's so it's weird in, I'm going to use the air quotes here, real life. Like people don't mention their salaries. Your guys, you know, the top guys, the salaries are out there for public knowledge. So like, what's the protocol? Is it still rude to mention someone's salary to them or can you have a laugh with it? Tony is definitely a guy you could have a laugh with. And I don't think anybody is laughing at it. He's figured this stuff out. So I think it's more of a hey, more power to you, man. Congratulations. Truly. It's incredible and obviously a game changer within the industry. But he changed the game with his approach to the job and his analysis and the fact that he was a superstar very early in the process. You could tell that that he just had a special quality and had the ability to cut through all the layers of this and really connect with the audience. So to me, it's it's a very simple standing ovation. Applause to him. But was there a humorous text sent to him at that time? No humorous texts with Tony. I think Tony realizes how fortunate he is and he he gets it. He see the big picture when it comes to this stuff. You know, I'm just thinking while you were speaking, I'm thinking I think Nance recently told my former colleague, Richard Deitch, that if the Masters got moved and was played during the NFL season, he'd call the Masters for that weekend. I guess I wonder CBS then would have you do the game with Tony. Would that be something that would appeal to you? Would you look forward to something like that if you had a chance to do a game or two with Tony? Well, if if you're telling me that we're actually going to have games, I'll tell you right now. Yeah, I'm willing to sign up for any of it. But, you know, obviously I enjoy working with different people. I've always enjoyed that. I've kept a running list throughout my career. I was going to say, have you kept track of how many different? Yeah. Do you know what the number is? I do. It's one hundred thirty five different levels. And the only reason I kept it, my first year doing Nets TV, I went to lunch with Bill Raftery in Milwaukee and I said to him, hey, how many different guys have you worked with? He goes, oh, let's try to keep track. He took out a napkin, literally paper napkin. And he starts writing down, Len Berman, Mike Gorman, Jim Kelly. And he got to a certain number and he just acknowledged at that point, I can't remember all of them. But it struck me that I was so early in my career that I should keep a running list. And at that point, there weren't many on the list. But in the years that have followed, the list has grown rather large. So, yeah, of course, if that opportunity presented itself, that that would be great. One thirty five. That's a that's an impressive number, right? Yeah. Big number for sure. So when you get a new partner like you will this year, if we do a football with Charles Davis, I'm curious. How much of the responsibility is on you to have him come in and be comfortable and mesh and chemistry and all that? How much is on the producer? How much is on the director? Do you take it all on you? Is it a balance type of thing? What happens when a new partner comes in? Yeah, it's a great question. I think the responsibility is shared. But any play by play guy worth his salt would tell you a lot of it falls on them because in the booth, that's the dynamic that you can control. Behind the scenes, the week of communication, the time spent together talking about the game, discussing the storylines and how you're going to attack it. Of course, the producer, the director, Evan Washburn, our sideline reporter. So it's Mark Wolf, it's Bob Fishman, producer, director. And then we have associate directors and broadcast associates, all part of this collaborative process to make somebody feel comfortable and to make the transition smooth. But when the red light goes on as the play by play announcer, you've got to go into traffic cop mode. And you've got to know that you're setting a tone that hopefully can make your partner feel comfortable to do their best work. And that's always been my viewpoint. I want to put my partner in the position to succeed. I want to make it easy on them. I want to be malleable. I want to be flexible and I want them to feel that there's trust between us. So let's say the most recent pairing that I had with Turner, with Stan Van Gundy, Stan and I didn't spend a lot of time together. We didn't do 17 rehearsal games together. We did zero. We met, truly met, other than an interview here or there when he was a coach, the day of our first game in a production meeting. And I knew five minutes in that it was going to work. I just knew it. I just knew by his personality. I knew by the questions he was asking me. I knew by the fact that he was laughing at some of my lines and my jokes that it was going to be an easy dynamic. I talked to Charles for about an hour a couple of weeks ago and not specifically how we're going to do this when we're on the air, but just a real honest conversation about ourselves, about family, about our background. And Charles and I knew each other a little bit from seeing one another during our respective travels, but chemistry is formed off the air and then the translation comes later on the air. So you could do a bunch of rehearsal games. The reality is if you're not bonding off the air, if you're not finding commonality, then you're not necessarily going to be able to transition it to on the air. That's my viewpoint. That's the way I've always looked at it. And that's not going to change. This is going to be very easy. Charles is really good at his job. He studies, he prepares. He's an excellent communicator. He's a wonderful guy. He's the kind of guy that you'd want to sit down and have dinner with, have lunch with, hang with. And that's really the dynamic that you shoot for. You want accessibility for the viewing audience. You want them to feel something when they watch, some connectivity to the announcers that are calling the game.

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"Here's Ian Eagle from May of 2020. The timing of this podcast appearance is great because CBS announced today that Charles Davis is officially your new partner. Before I ask you that, I'm going to be honest, I really had you on today for one question and one question only. Have you done any zooms with Bill Raftery yet? I have. Have you really? I have. No, I have. Wait, wait a second. I was kidding. How did the Raft manage the zoom? Well, he's got an IT person in his house. I don't want to get into deep specifics, but they they share genes and a bloodline. And he has help. He has help. So I've done a few with him of the personal variety just to get caught up. Hey, we're zooming. But we've also done a professional one. There was a show called CBS Connected on CBS Sports Network and online, and it might be worth checking out. We did one with Tom Izzo and with Bill Self. And the premise of the show was interviewing both of these coaches. And then midway through the interview, there was a zoom bomb. And with Tom Izzo, it was Steve Smith, one of the greatest guys you'll ever meet, works at TNT and NBA TV and has a long relationship with Tom. And for Bill Self, it was Raft. Raft was the one zoom bombing in. And not to give too much away, if you want to go back and check it out, you can go find it. At the end of the interview with Bill Self and Raft, which one do you think left their computer on, even though they left the interview? Well, that's what I was going to say. When you're zooming with Raft is, you know, do we have half his forehead showing? Well, at first, I must say it looked like he was doing some kind of deposition in the room, like there was some legal proceeding going on. But no, Raft has actually been a constant zoomer. We've had a few with CBS personalities that have come together. And I got to tell you, he is okay with the technology. He has figured it out. And I give him a lot of credit. This shows a lot of him opening up his mind to a new world that's out there. Amazing. I love it. That just made my day. And let's say now for the 2020-2021 season, if indeed college basketball is played, this could be a whole new call for Raft. There could be a player going to the rim, eight bird zooming to the goal.

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"A lot of talk shows. So, you know, why not throw a baseball game in there? You probably get the same rating you're going to get someplace else. Would you if if the opportunity ever presented itself, let's you know, let's say something happens. Let's say you end up back in ESPN. I know they tried to trade for you, according to one story. Would you ever want to call baseball again? I loved it. And I say that in past tense, Jimmy. I built I built my career around baseball. I love I you know, I wound up to the Hawaii Islanders and the minors of the Cincinnati Reds. I did the big red machine. I had bench and Rosen Perez and Morgan. I had that team did the Giants, ABC. And I was really heartbroken when we lost the rights after the eighty nine season. We got it back in a kind of a funny form in a baseball network years. But I have not done a game since the nineteen ninety five game five of the World Series Atlanta, Cleveland. So you're talking about twenty five years ago. I think, you know, I think to myself and baseball network really did a nice job. It was great. My friend Bruce Kornblatt produced it and they went back and they did my career baseball. And I'm watching this thing and it was a lot of fun. But I'm thinking to myself, that's some other person. That's a different life. Lifetime. That's that's that's some of the lifetime. And somebody said, how many World Series did you do? Eight did eight World Series on national television. So I'm thinking eat. But if I had to go back in and do it right now, Jimmy, I'm too far behind them. You know, I just haven't kept up with it. It's too hard. And I mean, if you put me in the in the in the booth right now, I want to know if, you know, Kofax was pitching tonight. Well, what was that whole thing like when there were reports that you were going to get traded to ESPN? Did you were you did you find it funny? Was it true? What can you tell me about that? It was very interesting. And I'll tell you what I mean, this sounds funny, but I got to give Andrew Marsch to the New York Post. The plug, because he was he was calling me and I said, Andrew, you have to understand something I'm finding out about myself through your column. He was really wired in to what was going on. And I clearly there was an attempt on their part to see if I would be available. Let's put it that way. But I mean, the irony is sometimes, you know, you're a little bit in the dark because there's stuff going on and you don't know what's happening behind the scenes. And, you know, to me, look, I was under contract NBC. And so I really didn't want to be a party to whatever was going to happen. But Andrew had he had all the goods on it. So I guess the the foray into the potential trade was was squelched. And here I am.

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"Here's Al Michaels from September 2020. You mentioned ABC. I wanted to reminisce with you for a bit because everyone associated you obviously is an NFL announcer. But for me, as someone who grew up in the 80s, big baseball fan, I'm getting such a huge kick out of the fact that there's afternoon day baseball playoff games on ABC this week. And you called. Tell me I was going to look it up and I said, I'll just tell me how many years did you do baseball with ABC? Who did you work with? I know you worked with Howard a little bit there, but like what was your baseball ABC career? So I was doing the San Francisco Giants in 1976. I had done the Cincinnati Reds for three years. I went to San Francisco, did the Giants. So in 76, ABC starts Monday night baseball. And they needed an announcer, a play-by-play man, to do the B game, the second game. They'd already hired Bob Prince to do the A game. I got hired to do the B game. So I would do the Giants six days a week, fly to the Monday game. So that was my first year with them. Even though I was a freelance guy. So they then signed me full time. I lead the Giants. I go to ABC in 1977. I did every year of Monday night baseball, all the way through 1989. So it was 76 to 89. So you had 14 seasons. And I ended it with the Earthquake World Series. So I did 14 years of that. And then the baseball network came back in 94, 95. And I did the World Series in 95, split it with Bob Costas and NBC. So who did I work with? My original crew in 76 was Bob Gibson and Norm Cash. And then full time in 77, I started to work with any number of people. Howard Cosell probably did about 50 games with Howard through the years. Bill White, former Yankee announcer, great player. Lou Brock did a game with Mark, the bird, Fidrich did games with and then and then Jim Palmer was starting to think about retirement. So we brought Jim in. We brought Tim McCarver in. And by the way, when I talk about teams that I've worked with, McCarver and Palmer, I loved that combo. Three man booths are not easy, as you know. But with McCarver and Palmer, we just had a blast. And we all, I just got a text from Jim last night. In fact, a great time with those guys. Just great. And we were bringing in other people. Steve Stone was another guy who I helped break into the business. So we had a mishmash, but a lot of those people went on to do some pretty good things. And then I remember maybe because I'm in New York, I remember 86 vividly with the Mets and Astros because it was a legendary series and Keith Jackson called those. Did you do any of those games? Any Mets? No, I did Boston and the Angels. Right. That's right. The Donnie Moore. Right. Oh, that was as good as to me. My favorite baseball game ever was game five of the 86 playoffs when Dave Henderson keeps it alive with a home run. Yeah. Angels tie the game in the bottom of the night. They can win. They can win the pennant. Rich and Desensi come up with the bases loaded. They can't get them in. Red Sox win it in 11, go back to Boston, win, you know, games six and seven. So the Mets-Astro series was fantastic. And Keith did that with McCarver. And then I did Angels-Red Sox with Palmer. But when people say to me, you know, give me your five greatest events. I mean, hockey is number one. That's on a shelf by itself. But that baseball game is right up there in the top five. That's pretty. How about that, though, for ABC and 86? Al Michaels calling the ALCS and then Keith calling the NLCS for the same. No, that's that's amazing. That's good stuff there. Eighty. Yeah. Eighty six. And no, series two. Red Sox, Angels, and then the Astros, Mets. On NBC. That was fantastic. The whole thing. Can't say I never thought I'd see baseball playoff on network television in the afternoon again. Can't believe it's happening this week. Well, you know what? When you think about it, I mean, what are the ratings in the afternoon? I mean, you got some soap operas, I guess. I don't know. I don't look at the television.

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"So that's how we that's how we got around with it. And the Greek would pick winners. And we had we had great fun with it somewhere, somewhere in my garage. I've still got one of those old check boards, check boards around with the Greek. Oh, I love it. You should take a picture of that and put it on Twitter. I know you have the Twitter account there. Take a picture of that and put it on Twitter for sure. Here's Jeff Van Gundy from July of 2020. The highlight of quarantine in the pandemic for sports fans was the last dance on ESPN. Did you watch it? Not a second. You know, it's funny because I had a feeling that was going to be your answer, because obviously you live through it. And, you know, those those, you know, listen, this ends up becoming like this whole big thing. But the NBA back then was a totally different animal and for me, a much more enjoyable animal. But it's they announced the Emmy nominations today and the last dance got three Emmy nominations. So I saw that and wanted to bring that up to you. I heard it was very well done. Yeah. And like you said, I lived it. I knew the results of those games and I knew about his greatness. So, yeah, like to me, that was nothing of a surprise. But I do think. I'm happy that it was made because younger fans who really didn't get to see him play, obviously live, and who probably wouldn't take the time to go back and watch full games could see in short snippets just how great he was. And. You know, like when you see highlights of this guy, when you think about what he was able to do and the efficiency he was able to play with, when the rules back then were more slanted or tilted towards the defense than the offense. And today it's just the opposite. The rules of the game are more slanted towards the offense than the defense. And when you think about not having as much room because the three pointer wasn't shot with the same amount of the sheer numbers, but also you didn't have all these shooters on the floor for space. And then the level of contact that he had he had to play through and playing 82 games a night for young people to see. And for older people to see like myself, even though I didn't watch it, to be reminded of his greatness, I think is is terrific because he was in my time, in my era, just the difference maker. You know, you could play, you know, a great game and you're coming down the end. And time and again, he would be the difference in these close games. And I have so much respect for him as a player and as a competitor. Yeah. One of the best things for me, and I'm sure that people who are like 25 and under who who proclaim to be diehard NBA fans are shocked at. I mean, when they showed the old clips of him playing the Pistons and the Knicks, I mean, those teams just I mean, they beat the living shit out of him on the court. You know, that's how the game was played. I mean, it just was. And it's a completely different time now. That was fun to go back and watch those clips. Jimmy, if you did that today to like, oh, yeah, F. Curry, you might be arrested in Golden State and ushered out. I mean, the amount of like the physical contact and the one that I just remember and it wasn't against Jordan. But it was John Starks basically tried to be head Scottie Pippen. I mean, today would be ejection suspension for 10 games. I think it was just called a common foul. You know, it's just like, yeah, get up, make your free throws. And that level of contact day after day, year after year that Jordan played 82 games and huge minutes goes directly to his toughness, mental and physical toughness, his level of conditioning and his competitive spirit. And, you know, we there were a number like I have that same amazement level when you talk about Karl Malone and John Stockton, how few games they missed. Just amazing. Yeah. And Patrick for the next Patrick Ewing. I mean, that was I've always said I feel like he's the most underappreciated New York athlete of my lifetime because Patrick Ewing gave 100 percent every single night of every game he played in his career. And, you know, in the NBA, that's not always the case. Well, I would say this. It wasn't just the games. It was practice as well. When your best player is as committed as Patrick was to winning. And we had an incredibly committed group. We fell short. But those players led by Patrick all always in my heart consider them champions because they gave every single thing they had to trying to win a championship. Unfortunately, as Pat Riley often would say, some teams are just born at the wrong time. And we were born in that Jordan era and we were great. And, you know, we just didn't have a guy who could go get a shot off the dribble. You know, Alan Houston came later in Patrick's career and he was that first guy that we had that could go get his own own shot. So, yeah, I will always admire those Nick teams because literally. No team invested more to trying to do the right things that lead to winning a championship in those teams. It was an honor every day in my 13 years in New York to deal with those players and with those coaches, because the commitment level was off the chart. Yeah. And I feel like there's a little bit more of an appreciation as time has gone on. So let me I just want to get you to say it. So why did you not watch the last dance one second of it? Were you tempted? Did you what was your mindset about that? Well, it wasn't anything, you know, I mean, I love Madam Secretary. So if I was going to choose, I'm going to watch Madam Secretary. But I think. Again, living through that. I mean, there were some great moments against the Bulls and there was some, you know, incredibly disappointing moments. I choose not to watch, you know, Game five. B.J. Armstrong's three, Charles Smith getting fouled. You know, I choose not to watch that stuff, you know, I love watching old Nick games at times. And but as far as that, I knew what a great player Jordan was. I knew how great a team they had. Phil Jackson, a brilliant coach. So I didn't feel that, you know, there was no desire to watch. But. I heard it was great, and so many people, I think, benefited from seeing Jordan's greatness, even if it was in short snippets, but to really understand what a great player and what a phenomena the Chicago Bulls were back then. But you didn't want to watch it all. I had no desire. When I say negative desire, that's where it was. Gotcha. You said Phil Jackson was a great coach. I've said this to you, I think, before when you on the last time, but I will say it again. You calling him big chief triangle is one of my favorite moments in Nick's history. The this is why I asked about the last answer. I want to tie it into LeBron. I love the even though even though I was a diehard Nick fan back in those days and it was so painful to relive it. I love the last dance from immediate perspective. It was very well done. And, you know, like the old clips and all that stuff. The what I hated about the last dance, that there was one thing I hated about it is it then became used in the Jordan LeBron argument, like when it would air every Sunday night, you'd have people saying, oh, LeBron could have never done this or LeBron hasn't done this. And I hate I hate the Jordan LeBron argument. And I and the last dance was then used as a way to sort of knock down LeBron, which I find preposterous. I wanted to get your opinion on that. Not to bore you with my sayings, but comparison is the thief of joy. And whenever you go through these sophomoric, like comparative arguments, who's better? When you're talking about the all time great, I'll give you first choice and I'll be happy with the second choice. And anybody trying to not what LeBron James has done is it's it's just foolish. It's utter foolishness. He not only is he the great player that we see and he's going to he could actually end up being the all time leading scorer in NBA history and it not be his best quality as a player, which is remarkable in that his passing is by far his greatest skill. But I just find like how he's lived his life. Like, why would we be trying to take away from a man who not only has accomplished so much on the floor, but he's lived this life of in many ways, just he's such a giver of his resources to help others. And I think we should be applauding that. So I don't like all these comparisons because they're both just in their own era. They're both the dominant player of their time.

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"But I want to talk about a couple of lighthearted things here, because you're always good with this stuff. But speaking of, you know, things you said that you may regret and things that could get you in trouble, you had a just an enormous faux pas that we have already discussed in this podcast back in January. But you botched the name of one of the great living actors, Mark Paul Gosselaar. You have it down now. We're good there. I know he came on and did a bit, but yeah, it's all straight. I did use one of the great actors. Yes. Yes. He's become a good friend. So he's got to turn negatives into positive. And and in this case, I got his number somewhere on. I said, look, I said it a few times when I did it during a playoff game, possibly whenever I did it or it was a big game, maybe a Thursday night game and a big crowd. I said Gosselaar. Right. And so he ended up talking on the phone and I said, so here's what I said. He goes, you know, that's actually how my name is pronounced, right? Because so many people botched it. I guess it's Dutch. It's whole solar and not and not gossler. But so I was just trying to be true to his roots. That's all I was trying to get it right. And the rest of the world has been getting it wrong. Well, you know, what I thought was I'm glad that got all cleared up. That was fun, though. That was definitely fun back then. And he did a funny thing on one of the games. You know, what was the other you and Nance together was a big U.S. Open story and then another story, which was huge for me because I wrote about it. And I remember the numbers on that column being tremendous. Your colleague, Joel Klatt, did an interview with Koepcke, who revealed that in his entire life he has never once had a hot beverage, coffee, tea, hot chocolate. Never. And he said because he grew up in Florida. I just to me, I just can't wrap my brain around that revelation. It's just impossible. And I feel like, you know, maybe he said it and now he's going to go down the line with it. But I just know how. No, I mean, just because he grew up in Florida, I was born in Florida. I've I've had plenty of hot drinks. I just I don't believe it. Even though Brooks and I have had our moment. Yeah, I consider somebody that that I really enjoy. And I think he's smart and I think he's somebody that is pretty honest. And sometimes it gets him in trouble. In this case, I think I just I don't believe it. I don't care how many times you would tell me, even if it wasn't on TV. I think that's B.S. The guy travels for a living. He's never been in a cold climate, needed a little. And first of all, I mean, the tragedy of going your whole life and never enjoying a hot chocolate. I feel bad for the guy. I feel bad for the guy, too. And I live on coffee. If coffee was taken off the face of the planet, I would go with it. Yeah, it's it's definitely. If when when you get that addiction to it, if I don't have a cup, I like I'd say maybe one, two in the afternoon. If something's going on, the headache I get is so extreme. And that's not good. But when it's not good, I have now I'm thirsty and I've got one year old twin boys. You need it. Yeah, I just need some sort of a pick line to get that into my system. Yeah. Here's Brent Musburger from January of twenty nineteen. I got to ask you this before we turn to the game, because I've written about this this week and it's amazing to me and I got to get your opinion on it. You spent a lot of years at CBS, the NFL today, the the great Irv Cross, Jimmy the Greek, Phyllis, everyone remembers it. And CBS has has been adamant. They've put out statements. I actually talked to Sean McManus on a conference call this week that they will not mention betting in any way, shape or form, whether it's lines overrun. There's even referring to it, joking about it at all on Super Bowl Sunday during the game and in their pregame show. Now, I mean, personally, I think it's ridiculous, but you don't want to maybe get into it during the game. But you have like a seven hour pregame show and there's so much fun you can have with the props and all that. What do you make of that CBS decision saying they said it's their policy not to discuss sports. Well, to me, I think it's completely foolish on CBS part because they had a chance, as you point out, with the pregame show growing as long as it is. They missed an opportunity to take a camera and have a shot over from one of the places where they bet in New Jersey, because there has been so much money going through the tunnels or over the bridge over there to make a bet. My goodness. Fans who go to the Giants or the Jets game can bet at the Meadowlands and then go on over to the game. That's a story. Whether or not you approve of it is irrelevant. That's a story. And you want to see how many people are lined up over there. The interest in gambling. No news division worth anything would ignore that because it is part of the build up. Now, you're afraid of a phone call from the commissioner's office on Monday. You have to deal with things like that. You're a big boy. You pay billions of dollars for that. People who bet, or even if they don't, they are very interested in who those analysts in the pregame show think will win and what will the final score be. And that's a pretty easy thing to do. You don't have to linger on the gambling technology or the terminology and things like that. But it is stupid on their part. Listen, I understand during the game, I got that completely, that you don't need Romo and Nance going on about the gambling because that's not the most important thing. However, in the fourth quarter, and believe me, I've known Nance for a long time. He knows exactly what those numbers are. His late father knew them too, because I know this, so that he should keep an eye on the 57, whatever the over and under closes at. He doesn't any longer have to be cute about it. But once they hit a 60, he should be willing to say, and that makes a lot of folks very happy and some others unhappy. That's all you have to say. That's all you need. Those of us who participate, and you go on about your business. It is far from the biggest part of a Super Bowl. I get it. But it's real, it's happening, and you're sticking your head in the sand if you're an executive, and you don't at least address it. And there should be part of the pregame show. In fact, the last hour should show some of the crowds in New Jersey because it's coming, it's coming. It ain't slowing down, despite the fact that the leagues are trying to backdoor federally. Sorry, I'm sorry, but that ship has sailed, and states' rights is what it is, and the Supreme Court ruled in favor of New Jersey. You think you're going to stop gambling on sports in the state of Nevada? Here's a memo. That's not going to happen, okay? So you have to live in the present, and CBS is ignoring it, and shame on them. You hit the nail on the head. I'm not looking for Jim Nantz and Tony Romo to mention the line for three hours or mention the total for three hours. But, you know, like you said, when the game hits and over, you throw in a little line there. I think last week, or two weeks ago, with the Patriots' chiefs, that game going over after being 14-0 at halftime easily could have been a mention. And I think there's the angle of also, you could have, you know, Tony Romo cracking a joke here if Gladys Knight hits the over-under on the national anthem would be a hit with people watching the game. We're not asking you to do a full analysis, but if Gladys drags it out and we go over the time there, let me hear Tony say something about it. Yeah, I mean, listen, you know me. A long time ago, I didn't think there was anything wrong with it, okay? So it is what it is, and that game would not be as big as it is today without gambling through the decades on the National Football League, okay? And everybody with a brain knows that. I mean, I drive by a stadium rising from the desert ground every day. The National Football League, putting the Raider franchise into Las Vegas, and you are less than 15 minutes away from a half-dozen different sportsbooks that I know of where you'll be able to bet on the game and then go into it. So you cannot ignore what's happening. They brought about a controversy that didn't need to be there. They could have answered it, so yes, of course we will refer to the legalization of gambling on games in precincts other than Nevada. We're not going to make it the biggest part of our pregame. We're not going to be the biggest part of our game, but our folks will be well aware. End of sentence. Next question, please. But instead, they want to bring this controversy upon themselves for whatever reason, okay? So good luck to them. It's even more jarring when you think about the fact that it's the network of the great Brent Musburger and Jimmy the Greek. Now they're afraid of sports betting. You know, Jimmy, when we brought the Greek aboard, I'll never forget the meeting we had at our lunch with the then-commissioner, the late, great friend of mine, Pete Rozell. And Pete, at the end of the lunch, you know, he was fully, listen, he used to go to racetrack all the time with Amera families and the Nene family, so I knew that he knew a lot about gambling. And he said, Jimmy, can I ask you one favor? And of course the Greeks said, yes, yes, Commissioner, what would you like? Because would you please not use the threes, the sevens, the tens, the three and a halfs. So of course the Greek and there were, Bob Wessel was there with me. We agreed. But then on the way back, we walked back from the lunch, back to the CBS offices. And so the Greeks said, now what the hell are we going to do? And so Bob said, let us think about this a little bit. And he brought in Bob Fishman and Mike Pearl, the director and the producer of the initial season of the Greek. And that's how we all came up with the checkboard. So that, okay, we won't say the numbers, but if the Greek lines up four or five checks on that one side, people will know. He's got blowout city.

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"And I that so it felt normal. And then it was like, well, if it's normal, then you're a good guy while you do it. And I saw my dad do that when I was a little boy. I saw him do that when I was a teenager. I saw him do that when I was a man and a father and a husband. Right. And he never changed. And he he said to me when he dropped me off in Louisville, when I was doing my first year at Triple A, he drove up together from Florida after spring training. And he said, you know, here's a couple of things. Nobody cares that you're doing the game. They don't care that I'm doing it. He said one day I'm going to die. Maybe I'll die in the booth. And two guys will be walking in downtown St. Louis and say, oh, did you hear Jack Buck died in the booth last night? And the other guy will go, oh, wow, that's too bad. The Cardinals win. And that's how people think. You know, they don't care about the announcer for the most part and don't act like they do. And well, you're going to be OK. I would push back on that a little bit from this standpoint. Your dad and that generation didn't have to deal with the Internet. And I think because of the Internet, not just the Internet, but also, you know, the fact that we have 5000 cable stations and everything. We know the announcers more personally, like even just you telling that story about, you know, meeting your wife through Rich Eisen. We didn't know that about the generation before in terms of announcers. We see you guys in so many other places, whether you know, you might be on, you know, you had your own show on HBO and there's always, you know, Nance and you do commercials. So I feel like it's it's such a different time from when they did games. They when your dad called games, I bet people heard him call a game and never saw him again outside of those three hours when he called the game. Whereas now everyone has this. Even if you're not on social media, you still have a presence because of just the world we live in now and technology. Yeah. And, you know, a couple of things about that when my dad. Had those two years with Tim McCarver and was broadcasting the World Series on CBS with with Tim. And that was right after Brent Musburger was fired. Otherwise, my dad was going to be doing the number two game with Jim Cott. And I think life would have been a lot easier. But my dad was kind of a fish out of water, was was working with somebody who was kind of a toast to the network. And it was not the Cardinals broadcast anymore, even though my dad had done, you know, thousands of national broadcasts on radio and some on TV earlier. He got blasted by Rudy Marski, who was the main USA Today critic. And basically his two year deal with a two year option was canceled after two years because people thought he was awful on TV. And and I saw that as a kid and it broke my heart because it was kind of like his walk off the main stage when he was in his 60s. And he got letters from people, but they were handwritten letters. He got nasty phone calls or had a footprint on his pillow in Pittsburgh when he made a comment during a Pirates game. Those two years when he was working with Tim, he got a little bit of a taste of it, but for the most part, his life and his career was not with the same kind of scrutiny that we have. And I think a lot of that scrutiny, be it Twitter or whatever, kind of if you dive into all that, it can take the personality right out of you. So my dad was known for his personality. Harry Kerry was Harry Kerry because of his personality. They weren't the most politically correct guys. I don't know that they could have existed or been themselves in today's world. That doesn't sound that's not me saying that it was better back then at all or they didn't make mistakes. That's not my point. My point is now it's harder to have a personality and just be you because you feel like you're on trial every time you open your mouth. That's why there's so few guys doing it, because it's hard to jump through those hoops and protect your network and yourself on a live event. It's just not that easy anymore. And it's everyone. I mean, just me writing a daily column, I feel like I'm one word away from, you know, can all go away. If you have any sort of public forum where you're at the point now where one word, one sentence, it can all disappear. It's a totally different... And I said, no, that I'm just all I'm saying is it's a different different. And if you if you pulled those people back, you know, now from the dead and dropped them into things now and they did what they were doing back then eventually. And you didn't tell them the surroundings are kind of the nature of what we're doing or the hoops we have to jump through. Eventually they get themselves into serious trouble. And some of that hurt my dad when he was doing the national games. But but it has shifted entirely. And you're right. You know, whether you're writing a column or taught doing a game or whatever you might be doing, I really have to be careful. And you have to you have to try and figure out how something you say can be perceived, even if it's not that way. And that's a hard way to talk live about an event. Right. Absolutely. That will add. Yeah. Live TV. That's that's the other issue. And where sports you're more of a tightrope because it is live.

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"Welcome, everyone, to SI Media with Jimmy Trainer. Thanks for listening. This is a special best of episode. We're going to be rolling these out periodically. This is in addition to our weekly Thursday podcast. Nothing changes. This is a bonus episode. We still will come out with a new fresh episode every Thursday morning. But every now and again, we're going to roll out these periodic best ofs. And this episode is going to be the best of play-by-play broadcasters. You're going to hear from, among others, Joe Buck, Brent Musburger and Jeff Van Gundy, plus others, who have been on SI Media with Jimmy Trainer. And some of the best conversations we've had, little snippets from several of those play-by-play guys. So that's what's going to be on this episode right here, right now. I had Nance on this podcast the week after the Masters when Tiger won. And I had never had him on before. I met him a couple of times at CBS NFL events. And he was always extremely nice to me. And he was nice enough to come on the podcast after Tiger won. And he was on for about an hour. And I thought he was tremendous on the podcast. He gave a take on everything. He was opinionated. He's what you want in a guest. And the reaction from listeners was fascinating because a lot of people agreed with me. The numbers were very, very good for it. And a lot of people thought he came off as arrogant, egotistical, or whatever. And it's just amazing how people can hear the same exact thing and get all these different takeaways from it. Now maybe because I'm sort of in this business, in my head, if you're on TV, you're going to have an ego. It's a matter of how big it is. But there's going to be some ego there. You just have to. It's funny though, Jimmy. And I agree with you. I get that too. And the woman that I ended up marrying initially when I was trying to get her number and going through Rich Eisen because Michelle worked for the NFL Network, her reaction was, oh, not him. He seems like such an arrogant son of a bitch. And Rich was like, why do you say that? He's a great guy. He's a nice guy. He's one of my best friends in the business at least. And she said, you know, I don't even know. I've never heard one bad thing about him from anybody who knows him. But it's just the perception I get from a national car rental commercial he did. Right. And you just never know what people perceive as arrogance. And so what I if I do go on Twitter and I see a lot of that, you know, just a guy or whatever, you almost just laugh at it because none of those people know what I'm about at all. So the reason why I wrote my book, I think more than anything else, is to try to get out there who I really am or go on your podcast and go on with Stern. But, you know, I think the best thing I got from being my dad's son and getting into this business was I saw a guy that, you know, said hi to everybody. There's nobody that he worked with at CBS that hasn't come up to me that said anything but glowing things about my father. Right. And it's the greatest gift that he gave me because I was always around it as a kid. And I never felt like that was the finish line becoming a big league announcer. I was doing it at twenty one.

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"Jimmy trainer, thanks for listening this week. Big week, but the Super Bowl, so we reached out and boomer science in former Bengal kind enough to come on the pod. Obviously you guys know boomer from the NFL today on CBS and my fellow New Yorkers know I'm here on the fan in New York every morning boomerang geo 6 a.m., so with the history of the Bengals and boomer having a great run there, thought he was a perfect guest this week to talk about the Super Bowl with the Bengals and rams. And we also do a lot of media stuff and get into boomer's career calling NFL games on radio and he touches on what happened at the chiefs Bengals halftime where the CBS crew was drowned out and we get into sort of the philosophy of doing radio and what doing morning sports talk morning radio is like all with boomer, then we go into train of thoughts with sole cotta after the boomer size and interview and a Sal and I touch on some Super Bowl prop bets and watching the Super Bowl. What that's like and we talk about some things we've watched recently. I went on a binge craze this weekend and watched a bunch of shows, so we discussed all that and train of thoughts. Before we get to the interviews with boomer and trying to thoughts just a reminder if you missed any recent episodes of the SI media podcasts are all there on the archives for you to listen to, check them out. Brian Curtis from the ringer was on last week, got a ton of great feedback. People really Brian and I spend about ten minutes to talk about radio row. And I got a ton of feedback from people who really like that conversation. So Brian Curtis of the ringer, he's at radio row this week. And we talked about it on last week's pods. Check that out. Two weeks ago, Roman Reigns Joe buck Jim nantz were on a mega episode of the pod. Nance was on two weeks before that and then Richard dyche Al Michaels Tom and all the all recent guests on the SI media podcast so check those out. In the archives, and if you could rate review that helps, I'll read the review on the pod. When you leave one. All right, let's get right now to this week's episode with boomer esiason on the Super Bowl and then try the thoughts with celica right here on the SI media podcast. All right, joining me now perfect perfect guest to have on this week with the Bengals of all teams in the Super Bowl. One of the old time bangles, boomer assays and also WFA and radio, New York, CBS sports, obviously, you know, I'm on the NFL today. Boomer how's it going? I'm doing great. Jimmy, thanks for having me on today. So what's up? Oh, what's up? We've got the Super Bowl..

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"All right, time for our weekly train of thought segment right here on the SI media podcast, so I bring in my buddy, salakta from WFA and radio in New York, as in white TV. He's been with us every week since about mid 2021 as we wrap up here. Christmas week, Sal. How are you? Great. Did you hear back from Kevin James from you outlasting? I've not heard back from Kevin James. I'm sure he's got way bigger fish to fry. Listen, when 9 billion people see the trailer and say your movie's garbage, I don't think he's going to worry about me. It's a good point. Kevin water there of burying Kevin James. So we're here Christmas week. We'll get into a couple of holiday things. I want to ask you this question..