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Pilots report mysterious man with jetpack flying near planes in Los Angeles
"That l A X flying along, notices something outside his window that has everybody talking tonight, Alex. Don't American way just past the guy after the pilots of two planes reported seeing somebody flying in a jetpack jetpack alongside alongside their their aircraft aircraft on on Sunday Sunday night night at at about about 3000 3000 ft ft in in altitude altitude on on final final approach approach to to L, L, A A X X maybe. maybe. 300 300 of 300 yards or so south Tower. The audio from live 80 si dot net, the FBI telling ABC News it is now investigating. Nobody knows who or what itwas pilots were warned about the danger. You know, it's my
Chicago Weather: Hot And Humid Sunday, Storms Possible To Start Next Week
"Sky train fare to part of quality for tonight's still chancellor. I said Shower war storm will be widespread is warm and muggy, Low, low seventies Mostly sunny, hot, humid Sunday High Low 90 si next near 100. Some ice and storms are possible the afternoon Weissman showers and storms Sunday night early Monday, Phoebe storms could be
"The Buddha said. Though, this is the noble truths of the path that leads to the need of suffering. It is simply this noble eightfold path that is right view right intention right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right meditation. So, we've been looking at these eight parts today. We WanNa look at right effort. So again, we go to the Buddhist scriptures and the Buddhist said, and what is right effort. It's when a practitioner generates. Enthusiasm tries makes an effort exerts the mind and strive so that bad unskillful qualities don't arise. They generate enthusiasm, try make an effort, exert the mind and strive so that bad on qualities that have arisen are given up. They generate enthusiasm, try make an effort exert the mind and strive so that skillful qualities that have not arisen do arise. They generate enthusiasm, try make an effort, exert the mind strive. So that skillful qualities that have arisen remain are not lost but increase mature and fulfilled by development. This is called right effort. Let's look at those a little more detail right effort than deals with generating enthusiasm. Another translation has generates desire for the idea here is that you have to generate something you have to stir something in you a desire for skillful qualities a desire to get rid of bad unskillful qualities. This is something you stir within you. A desire that you have. To develop. which goes to show you that not all desire is bad selfish desires bad but benevolent and altruistic desire is not. Next at says to try. Not, try here nother transition has endeavour it means that you make an effort. It means that you apply yourself and matter of fact, the next one make an effort. I. Like one translation says activate persistence. So not only do you endeavor, but you activate persistence you stick to it. And that stick to it of Nece is what makes it successful? The next one is exert the mind another translation says applies his mind and yet another translation one that I particularly like exerts his intent. That means that he is intent on doing something. He is put his mind on achieving something and that would what he's trying to achieve here in using right effort is to have skillful qualities to make sure that they increase and to get rid of bad unskillful qualities. And the last one is strives that means he upholds intent as one translation puts it. He sticks to it. He strives he keeps with it. These are the things that right energy is talking about. The aim of energy is also specified as four things. The first is so that bad unskillful qualities don't arise. The second is so that bad on Sofa qualities that have arisen are given up si one eliminate bad unskillful qualities. The third is so that skillful qualities that have not arisen do arise you want to cultivate them you want to plant the seed and cultivate them. And lastly, so that skillful qualities that have arisen remain you don't WanNa lose them in other words. So they're not lost. But rather rather just holding onto them
11 children in Washington state hospitalized by coronavirus-related syndrome | TheHill - The Hill
"Are now 11 cases of a rare Kobe related disease affecting Children across our state. Come A Si Romero has the latest. The State Department of Health says the latest numbers are not a sharp increase, but an ongoing count of multi system inflammatory syndrome in Children, otherwise known as M. SC. Dr Marisa Di Anjali says it shows up in people under age 21 who tested positive for covert and the symptoms are not mild, have
Orange County, Los Angeles, To Offer Grant Money To Restaurants Complying With COVID-19 Guidelines
"County officials today announced a program that will reward restaurants that comply with Kobe. 19 guidelines. Ah, website Safe. Dino si dot com is where a restaurant owners can apply for $1000 grants to reimburse them for money they've spent on personal protective equipment or cleaning supplies since the pandemic began. Money comes from $10 million that county received in federal funding for Corona virus Relief
Florida man accused of using coronavirus relief funds to buy Lamborghini
"Florida man receives three point nine million dollars in Covid nineteen relief funds Biza Lamborghini and gets arrested for fraud by just SI- abates a Florida man has been charged with fraud and other criminal offenses after receiving three point nine million dollars in covid. Nineteen relief funds and using the money to purchase among other things a Lamborghini. David T hines twenty nine was arrested on Friday and charged on Monday according to a statement by the Department of Justice over three million dollars has been seized from his bank accounts along with the sports vehicle. Authorities allege that hinds fraudulently applied for about thirteen point five million dollars in paycheck protection program P. P P loans for a few companies P P P part of the corona virus aid relief and Economic Security Act was enacted on March twenty ninth to provide small businesses with forgivable loans. Any money given to accompany on behalf of the program is supposed to be used for rent or mortgage costs, employee, salaries and utilities. According to the DOJ statement, Heinz lied on the loan applications and made inaccurate statements about the expenses of the companies including the amount paid to employees. Those purported employees either did not exist or earned a fraction of what hines claimed his P. P P applications. US Postal Inspector Brian McMillan says in an affidavit, according to the Miami Herald collectively hines falsely claimed his companies paid millions of dollars in payroll in the first quarter of twenty twenty state and bank records however show little to no payroll expense during this period. Hines was approved for funding and received three point nine million dollars just a few days after getting the money, he bought the Lamborghini for three hundred eighteen thousand dollars. He is also alleged to have purchased luxury items from stores and resorts. In the past few weeks. Florida has become one of the hot spots for US Covid, nineteen cases and recently passed New York for having the second most confirmed cases in the country behind California. Hines was in federal custody over the weekend released on bond on Monday and is scheduled to be arraigned on October
New York City fire marshals bust S.I. man impersonating city EMS officer
"Is under arrest after allegedly scamming people and businesses on Staten Island. Officials say 45 year old ex con Robert Shemp of Queens would dress up as an M SS officer and flash a fake badge. He wore a light blue shirt with an F D n Y patch on it, he had allegedly would tell people there was a violation and demand money. To fix the violation or to look the other way. Shemp is now charged with larceny and criminal impersonation of a public servant. When
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"Think The New York. Times did an article with them right after the lockdown started, and he I didn't realize he had a live in girlfriend so as him and his girlfriend utters. Tuna fish sandwiches every day and I thought man that would be. That would be pretty fun to be locked down with Larry Absolutely. So. What was huge about that? Is Curb was on while we were quarantined. We needed that Is there anything you've watched in the last three or four months that you can recommend to me in my listeners? Is there anything that I? Mean I haven't watched a ton of new stuff which it seems like? You mentioned only with Kyle about Thank you for talking about music. Maybe Kyle said he stopped basically listening to new music awhile ago and you mentioned like. How do people have time to do all these things, and even even in quarantine I demand like I I'll. Watch this and I've binged this and this was on Netflix. This I'm like Whoa. How? I don't get it, but the only thing I've really I re watched the Sopranos and then. I haven't done anything new. So for me, it's such a Cliche, but now I don't watch any TV because of the kids. It's all kids TV but. If I can steal away a little bit of time. The one show that I have watched than I do recommend people. The past couple of years is bill Hader show barry on HBO I've heard Yes good things I've heard about that. Yeah, it's such. It's such a good show because it does this amazing thing where it can be uproariously funny one minute, and then just like bone, chillingly terrorizing the next second man. He is fantastic in it. You Know He. He can switch from comedic to dramatic really quickly. Henry Winkler obviously is one AMI foreign. He was so hugh so great in it. Stephen, root. We were talking about Joe Rogan. Whose radio when you think back about that show Jimmy The CAST is absolutely mind boggling, so joe a young Joe Rogan is is on that show Andy Dick Stephen Root fill the late great Phil Hartmann. This incredible of course I think more attorney was the love interest, and then Dave Foley from kids in the hall was sort of the Everyman Kinda Star of it right? The man says even route. Who is amazing on that show is also unburied, and he's just great used the I remember flirting with the idea of watching it and it was because of Henry Winkler more than anything. I I remember 'cause. He won the Emmy like you said and. I was intrigued by. It's funny. It's something about one name shows here because the other show heard a ton. About is a show. I think it's on F x called Dave. And that I've been meaning to check out, so dave and Barry Barry and Dave. WHO's in that show? I don't know I don't know. But I have but Alan. Up and wall WHO's TV critic for the rolling for Rolling Stone, a an immense amount of respect for has. said it's been like the best show of the year. Maybe or someone you know t I mean Oh Yeah Day Wall likes it I'm in. Yeah, that's usually a good policy. What did we argue about recent? Is. The hangover was a top ten comedy and he got on me about that, which is probably a fair take to get on me, but maybe it doesn't crack the top ten movies top twenty, but you know you throw these things on twitter just for. This is gonNA sound weird, but the halverson almost like the Matrix. In that the the sequels were underwhelming enough to question the original. Does that make a good point that the I think that's a yes, because here's what it is when you're so i. know that all the the kids today. The youngins they're all about the streaming I'm old so I have cable so I still flip around the channels, and you know all that stuff, and when I say you know TNT, you know four o'clock Saturday afternoon, hangover, two or hangover three, you cringe. You cringe. Yeah, that's not good whereas like. I recently got into this on twitter with. American pie two is just as good as one rows. Boost up one whereas you're totally right. There is a cringe with. when you see, hang especially three. That's yeah. That's big trouble well when when? President Obama was on between two FERNS and he had. Earth's a hangover. We'll see ya. Yes, they write that forever to, does he? Pretty sure they wrote that for but. You mentioned that because I did it between two ferns binge during quarantine maybe like two months ago. One night I just watched a bunch of them. On Youtube and if no one has seen it there is a video of between two ferns outtakes bloopers I cannot recommend it enough. You all laugh, the entire he is. Just Zach Elephant, as is some people who are just you can't. There's no reason just funny. They funny and we were the. There's a theater. I think Conan is doing a show from the Largo. In L. A. Now. It's a sort of pseudo famous comedy theater in l., A. and nightmare. I was living there. I'd go all the time. It would just amazing because. It would say that it was going to be Say Sarah Silverman would be the headliner and she brings friends will the friends would be Zach Galifianakis and Adam Sandler. Me Instatement, and Calvin showed stand up one night, and just destroyed, and I remember thinking like man. This is one of those guys to can probably right twenty minutes of material in his sleep in. Yeah, go anywhere and just slay. Yeah, she's amazing absolutely..
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"One didn't make any sense whatsoever and then the. Up In and I do essentially our old version of the show. while and then I always remember we we we decided to do is show for a week in a approx closet. Yes. How I hit? Version of the show. Yes, I remember. I remember, there was one that you had Travis Halcion. Yes, I think I was having him on around interviews probably rolling something he was voting on. His Day I believe he did like a dating show on. Dated Fifty women at once. You not love tribes calcium. I remember watching that episode I think. I was interviewing him for the night. Not on the PIKE HAS A. Over the phone for for something with that show by forgotten about yeah, they stuck in that little studio and do that well. It was, but it was actually different, because it started in this prop closet was literally the best stamps or chose prop closet, and we went in there because long story short. They had sent every show to the Super Bowl in San Francisco except for our show. So. Of sulking about it, we thought why don't we pretend that? Not only did the shows go, but the crew went, and we have no crew and we have to do the show on the prop closet because this is the only space that's lit in the entire unbelievable, so it went well like we did it for a week. We can you know this suits US better? Somehow, it's more kind of low rent rent. Just kind of kind of more fun, so then they decided well. We got this tiny studio. We could build so that's when they put us in this studio now as the final iterating on the shelf and now is when Jamie. Horowitz was running the network and was very anti highlights, so he just wanted us to centrally talk show with. Probably the best version of the show, but but it was only a year that we got to do that. It seems like these days. In twenty twenty. No matter whatever network you'd be add. They'd had to highlight show, and then have you do a Another show? Thirty Minute interview show, that's it's like everyone sort of doubling and tripling up these days I mean. There's a podcast. You're on TV you have a podcast. Youtube Channel instagram lives away in a no one does thing anymore so they would have probably used you better now than they did that. It's possible and you know I think the other thing is that you know no matter what you say about. Highlight shows ultimately they are as we say in the business shoulder programming right. Jimmy they've gotTa have something leading into it. We just had nothing we had no had no program right now what you would want to stick around for maybe UFC might have been an exception, but we just didn't have that programming so I don't care who you would have stuck in that seat. F S one in the early days I know they were talking to. Scott Van Pelt about going there and I. I think it's just an east coast guy. He didn't WanNa do it, but even Scott had he gone. I would struggled ratings. Wise, because there's just no, there has been no reason it wasn't destination viewing now. It changed for example, and you know this 'cause I know you love baseball when the baseball playoffs happened, men are ratings with through the roof right because i. Had to find our channel, and if they found our channel, then they're probably sticking around and seeing what's on after after the game's over, so we can great for a good two weeks in October or late September. Did you. Did you have a moment you got the Fox twenty thirteen? Did you have a moment I mean you said before is a disaster from the beginning, but was there like. A boy, this is what am I doing. Why didn't I stay where I was? Or you know this is not going to work with? When did it? Absolutely, not at no point. Did I ever think that I was having too much fun? If it's just we're living in LA. We're having a great time. It's funny. How if the date today of your workplace is really really fun? You know wet the whole. Mine Usha of Oh manner. Ratings are bad. People are bad. You know Francesa's colonists out of the radio stay. Nobody knows who we are I thought. Larry and I got a kick out of it, and at no point was I ever down or or depressed about it I had a blast from the moment we arrived at twenty thirteen at the moment. We laughed and I think like I said a lot of that had to do. With how great everyone is there behind the scenes in how how comfortable they make you feel no, what you're. No matter how you show is doing young. They treat everybody really good, so yeah, no, I no pointed. Ever feel bad I. Did I were there moments L. Leaving a show. What I actually watched the show I just hosted. I would have to say to myself probably not. Guess. When did you realize it wasn't working all right away? I mean it was. We brought up Aaron like a lot of people. Forget stuff like this. Erin. Andrews hosted a show at the beginning of Fox of Fox sports. Ride the called Balk essentially, the Game Day competitive. And the NFL on, Fox. Guys were on it. We have show Fox football daily regularly on that show, but. We're talking maybe a month. In all of a sudden, a lot of those people are going away. I saw. These big they were like. Get me out of here and and I couldn't blame them but we were under contract and for me it was like let's just make the best of it and see if we can make something work here I guess. I have no regrets about it because there was no control. Really you know you're really doing what you can't might. My only wish is that we had so many different producers. Jimmy I would love to have had a one producer who really believed in US really loved us and Got Our vision I. Think might have had a bit more of a chance there, but nothing ever rated on F s except for skip bayless. Ever. Calling over me as an end, simulcast his show on on F. s one did not rate..
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"I, don't know why. This is not happened sooner, but joining me. From. Canada. One of most famous people in Canada J. ON RATE Jay has gone. Oh, great Jimmy One of the most famous people in America. Has worked together. It's been an interesting ride. We were at Fox. I. Call Them You know the missing. The missing years that I. Try not to think about often new at the same time I was I was on Fox Dot Com. You're on F S One. But I. I was a fan. Way before that ever happened I know you provide a movement much material during my hot clerk, states appreciated that and. It's good to finally have you on. Yeah, it's great to be on with you Jimmy I love the podcast and I just had our mutual friend. Kyle Brandt. On with us, on the Jay and Dan podcast. And what a guy! What a! Worry about getting Michael. Jordan's autograph when he was a kid and the Cologne spilling out of the car. What a what a magnificent person! He and Peter Schrager I love that show. That's one of the shows we do. Get up here. We do get the NFL network up here so it gets a catch up with those guys because I'm up early with small children all the time. I always like to Brag that I was sort of the first person to publicly say that that was a great show and. It's good to be right every now and then and I. WanNa. Get into the Kyle's appearance. They I was a bad host though I should have when I injured. You mentioned intro you intro. You mentioned that you host sportscenter on Tsn Kanye the Jane. Dan podcast sports. Within our E that's. Not The er one. Yes, I remember Alice, remember I think it was the two thousand five NBA finals. They sent me cupboard I think it was the Pistons and Spurs than we would have Michael Wilbon on regularly because. tsn Is one third owned by ESPN, so we we'd have lots of ESPN personalities and and Michael could not wrap his head around the. Spelling Change. Center probably should not be spelled C. E. N. t. r. e. now that you have differentiated I think so I learned one thing already. I didn't realize he was one third of an owner of tsn. I've always wondered how you know. There was sportscenter in America's Sports Center in Toronto Canada and the, you know the spelling difference was there, but it would have seemed like a copyright infringement deal so I think the so just very quick backstory I believe on. American companies or any foreign companies can only own one third Max of Canadian broadcast entity. It could have. Right and so I remember when ESPN bought into Tsn, they immediately wanted to change the name to Espn Canada. And and of course change the at the time Tsn's show was called sports desk, and they wanted to obviously change that to sportscenter and I think the ESPN candidate thing they just held off on, because tsn was established as a name up here already, but they relented on sportscenter thing we were all thrilled because those of us who are working behind the see I was working behind the scenes in the newsroom at Tsn at the time, and that was the heyday of Fab. Dan Keith and kilborn and rich Eisen and Stuart Scott and. The glory days of sports centers as people often call at your buddy Jimmy Miller calls it. So so for me. I was three. Thrill suddenly. We weren't on sportscenter. It seemed somewhat cooler at that boy. You're. Talking about this ad in planned to discuss it, but just popped in my head, I had Jamal, Hill on the podcast last week, and we talked about what you went through with the six PM Sports Center and HAL. At that time. There was a big narrative at the time This is sort of which you brought about how? Highlighted dead highlights dead highlights dead and I'm just curious. Because I'm sitting here, thinking okay, you're hosting highlight show, or at least you know what supposed to be at sportscenter. What's your take on? The highlights of dead people want highlights. How do you guys handle it on on Sportscenter, you and Dan? What's your take on that? Well for US UP SCHMEAR? They were never dead and we went to. F S One and when we started doing a highlight show, and then, when Jamie Horowitz came in and took over in. You know his whole narrative. Was He'd have a sin in a meeting and the first thing he would want to discuss this. How the traditional sports centres ratings were trending down and how the shows that he had been a part of. Or had some sort of hand in creating at Espn no-shows were trending up and you're right. That was completely the narrative at the time, and and for us We just didn't fit into that mold and maybe. Was the same thing for Jim, Allen and Michael in some ways that you know. I never understood why they took Jamila. Michael Office show that was working. Right tried to shoehorn them into a format that clearly they weren't comfortable in and I. Guess You could say the same thing about Dan. When we went to one a lot of ways, one thing data was said. Was that nobody you know? We were such a huge success in Canada and they brought us down because we're a huge success in Canada, but at no point did anyone at Fox. Say Okay. What do you guys think we do with you like nobody? would. They just sort of shoehorned us into this three hour. Long show with Garissa who is fantastic, but Overall it just it was. It was kind of a disaster from the get go so I completely vange walls line of thinking there. Yeah, it's funny. In doing a little bit of research. I. Didn't realize you had done that show for four year. You got there in two thousand thirteen in our remember that you were there. Till twenty seventeen that show on F s one lasted four years. I was shocked. Shorter. I think America had felt shorter to while I was in every year. It was different you know. The first year was the big launch in the the one for fun and all that. Nonsense and that. Andy Roddick breaking down the NBA. That's right and. Donovan mcnabb Gary it was. All amazing people and I mean front you know to. You worked for Fox I. Mean Front Camera Behind the camera, and as far as the way they treat talent. They could not allen any better. They're the the the most talent friendly entity ever to the point of. Leading some like it always confused me because up here. The the concept of US being able to go to a competing network can host a reality show is just a nonstarter up here, whereas something like Erin Andrews, for example got to be on dancing with the stars on ABC for years and years right, so they saw. That is a good thing. And I appreciated that I thought that was really forward thinking from Fox because their minds. The bigger their talent got, even if was on another network, the better it was for them so. Aaron always told me that he said Fox alum that she did dancing with the stars. May like. Them they want their talent to be even more high profile, so yeah, as far as that's concerned, they treated a scrape. It yeah, with four different integrations. Was that first one that we sort of mentioned with Andy and Gary and it was like a three hour long show, and it was like two shows..
Man subdued after threatening passengers on flight out of Seattle
"Forced in Alaska Airlines plane headed from Si Tak to Chicago. Turn back around Saturday night. Almost Frank Lindsay Man became extremely belligerent and physically aggressive during ascent and had to be subdued by flight crew members and passengers. Everybody accepted. That's from a video recorded by a passenger. The flight returned safely to see Tak where police took the man into custody. People on that flight were booked on other flights to Chicago.
Video shows airline passenger threatening to ‘kill everybody’ on flight from Seattle
"And Alaska Airlines flight from Si Tak to Chicago had to turn around Saturday night. The airline says a man became belligerent and physically aggressive during the flights of scent and had to be subdued by flight crew members and others on board. A passenger recorded video of the man's outburst in which he said quote I will kill everybody. The flight had to return to see Tak where police took that man into custody. Flight was cancelled and the other passengers were booked onto other
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"I'm walking down the aisle he was doing finger puppets in sign with the shadows. In hockey players are sitting there. Just cracking out. Watch that the taking out of the bed to write down about this guy from the line of the back of line is. That's my favorite thing. Yeah you just came more. We all want be. Why would you call them? All the way back here are. I like I follow his daughter on instagram issue. Will Earth things of him and he posted. She posted something of a day where I think she's trying to like film him with something and he was just like you know it was. It was in the same story as the birds. Yes that was arsenic myself. He hates birds does not like are all. He's a guy who would be perfect for instagram. But I also WanNa mayor because instagram tonight. So you go on twitter. But he should be on instagram in like so many weddings going through People if you if you could put him on a live Cam for thirty minutes a day during quarantine like I would pay nine thousand nine hundred and it's just it's genius it is. It really really is genius. I guess I don't know I'm trying to remember all these little stories because we obviously weren't present to know what was going on. It was all jerry odd like coming back to him during the ceremony or even now telling stories but injured spouse. He talks about Seinfeld. Ed I guess I think wrenching Seinfeld. Larry goes.
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"She was a beauty queen in the seventies and she was the leading lady in a male dominated industry and I love the people. Now are saying such fabulous things. I hope they were to her face back that you know. Of course I mean what she. Probably I mean of awarding telecast in the late seventies and eighties like forget it. Yeah after winning Miss America may knock it off yeah. Let's go to a couple of fun things before I let you go so what I saw some tweet from you. The cooking's not going. Well dump the whole thing cornstarch in our kitchen and. I don't know if I've discussed this with you before. But Jarrett's like Monica Geller from friends very Houston about cleanliness. And you know I can. I can leave my para shorts on the side of the bed for about three days without moving. And then the weird stare so I was trying to make a stir FRY. We needed a little. Bit Of cornstarch. It went right through my fingers and it exploded on the floor and he just looked at me and it was like the Ralphie moment from Christmas story the Ofa job after cleanup. No and he didn't speak to me probably for an hour because he was with Q. Tabs trying to get him out of the cracks wine tremendous and then after dinner. I think we had a couple of drinks and I was loading the dishwasher and I said favor I'm sorry and he's like it's fine. It's fine in that. I basically went bowling with one of our salad bowls. I frigging dropped. It cracked into a million pieces. Were Am I. This isn't going to stay out of that room. Guidance handed these cute side that is oh my God did you Did you. Are you watching Friday Night Lights? He went on twitter and said you were what what. Where do we stand? So this is where I stand I don't like the start of sense. I tried watching it the first month of quarantine you guys throw me into an episode. Were Star quarterback breaks act? And he's got screws in his head with a halo and I mean I'm already gory. Renite at six thirty at night. Because of Lester Holt reports. I can't do hospital rooms right there. That's I'm we're full locked and loaded on billions right now. We're in season three. We do about two episode tonight. It's awesome everyone likes that Joe. But you you and jared both promise me you're GonNa Watch the office because jared of Seinfeld guy not and I told you guys to watch the office. You both said you would and still in office so just straight. I'm not happy about that but ten you even say that season one of the offices at Tad slow in season one is only six episodes so like the I I think the first one is. What's a little slow but once you get to episode two which would not even get on TV today because it's offensive than it. Then you'll get the appreciation for okay. Fine Full Jarrah. If jared like Seinfeld he would love the office tough. We were dying. We at a quarantine likes driveway. Birthday party were just like everybody brought lawn chairs. And we're all sitting around like six feet apart and whenever buddies had On and we are dying. You should bring up. Larry because if you bring Larry. I'm just going to ask you a million questions about Larry being at your wedding because it's that to me like Larry David in real life a wedding. I can't think of a more like perfect thing to witness so there was a curb episode. We're so weird. We just started watching season Tennessee. No Jarrett's watch some of the curbs that we started watching season ton and vague go to a destination wedding season. Ten in the room is crappy. I guess the rupiah is to invite away wasn't crappy but we were kind of like. Oh God God is going to have anything to do with our wedding out. We actually found out of really good story about Larry at our wedding a couple months ago on someone told us this story so the night before our wedding. We kind of did a welcome dinner where we just had everyone you know. Come to this dinner. Zayd obviously dragged their butts out to Montana. And that's where Larry was first on the scene because he didn't go golfing with the guy that afternoon. So we had all this you know kind of buffet style for everyone to go get their food and we had chicken parm station. 'cause Jarrett loves chicken PARM AND THEY COOKED on Blah Blah Blah so. There's a line for the chicken parm station and Larry's in the back talking to some of the hockey players and apparently we don't know who it was but one of our friends. That was all the way in the front of the chicken. Parm station wanted to be with him. So came back to talk to him and Waris looked at him and goes hold on. Were you just in the front of the Chicken Parm? Yeah I was and he goes but you just came back here in your where we all want to be and I guess all our buddy said he instantly took out a no at inserted writing down or that see. That story puts me right in heaven. That's why I would do anything. Like Oh my God that is so Larry. That is though like you're sitting you and are watching a wedding episode of curb and he came to your destination wedding like there could be material that for him that if we just a whole thing. We're like oh my gosh. Can WE VEGAS ANYTHING FROM OUR WEDDING ON THIS? And the other thing we heard was so we got married on top of this mountain. It was freaking hot but it was cold on the day whatever. We can't do anything about the time we thought it was GONNA snow. And apparently so I haven't seen Marianna golf course my husband has. He said that he just doused himself with. Sunscreen usually may or may not mix it in but he was so hot he put his blazer on top of his head and his date at my wedding said that the tags were still on in China. Pull them off and he's like no no no leave him but apparently like as we're walking..
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"Hundred fifty years of college football and So Bester croom was on it and he was just talking about his time at Alabama and he was talking about being a you know His head coaching days at Mississippi State. And I just said to Jarrett one of the most incredible halftime interviews. I've ever done. And he said why and I said I just remembered this walking off the field with him. His quarterback was hurt. Walked off the field and said how's he doing and he looked at me he goes. He broke his leg. His season's over ours may be too and I was like holy. I don't know if he knew to like tell me that or whatever but it was just. It was awesome. It was like thank you so much. You have to do like throats back to you like I say more than anything People ask all the time is there are guys that are nastier their Arvin so fortunate and people have been so wonderful to me and I'm so thankful for that but I really do believe a lot of that has to do with the trust that I have in my announcers When I first came on scene at ESPN and even Fox they just. They've been so great in terms of trusting me and then relating that to athletes and coaches and so when the athletes and coaches see that are troy. Aikman are Joe. Baca Kirk herbstreit or Chris Fowler. Mike trico trust you. That goes such a long way. You mentioned the criticism from the Post. I am curious because I do feel like you said it like you used to let the body you way more than you do now do you like. How do you feel like you get a fair shake? Nabbing feel like you've never gotten a fair shake or obviously you've been around now so long that I would think the criticisms in all of those like think pieces that people always use to write about you in the lattice completely died down but I don't know maybe it hasn't. I think it depends on. Who's writing the story? I think There's just certain people that are held to a different standard. Or they'll never be good enough you know. I blasted a guy on twitter the other day. It took me a minute. I actually took a second and I haven't done it in a while. I I went on the Palestinian and I. I did a nice thirty minute ride and I didn't even tell jared I was GonNa do it because he was he would probably say don't do it. Don't do it but Fills George had passed away and I spent the morning reading a lot about her and reading some articles because I'd heard stories about her from troy and and our crew but I didn't know much about her. I didn't know she was entrepreneur. I honestly about candid camera in some of the things she had done. And you pretty cool reading that and and I I think I'd read a story that our daughter had commented on and I was just reading and somebody attacked me and said you know I. She paved the way for somebody like me. And and I don't know the exact wording of it but said you know this is what Aaron Andrew Village Words yet Erin Andrews but Andrew will never be this good and I was just like you know why Blake. She just died. Why are we focusing? I mean but it was just a way for him to get a Dagan honest. Been what had been watching the last dance. I kinda love that and not be afraid to go back after people and I just kind of put a dig in back and I just said you know she classy woman. I've a lot to learn from her especially I hope she didn't let small minded comments like this affect her. So that's a good one tweet. I just replied to dog so they want the attention. So you'd better off not giving them. Yeah he just it's some people just can't get over it but it is what I feel like. I kind of tried to stick with the thoughts as long as I have. Somebody like Sean Payton. Or you know Mike McCarthy or you just want to respect from the coaches in the athletes in the organizations and obviously my bosses at Fox. That's really what is most important thing. I. It's funny because I was GONNA ask about Phyllis I didn't know if she was like a little before time. If you watched her grow up she might have been like NFL. Today when she was on it was late seventies very early probably like you know never knows what an iconic like the NFL. Today is the old time like every game show from back then absolutely schrager actually taxi me. I think the Sunday before is my day. Show just asked me my thoughts on it and I like. I told you I was reading. All these articles about her and her daughter had said that she really learned like once she started re stopped reading the comments that when she would feel better about herself and I could understand and relate to that but her daughter also said she had shoe boxes. Full the full of these awful comments people would send her put them away in her closet and just reading some of these fantastic Quotes and comments and Stories about her. I told you I hope she knows how much she was loved. Men I look. I appreciate what you did..
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"She was a beauty queen in the seventies and she was the leading lady in a male dominated industry and I love the people. Now are saying such fabulous things. I hope they were to her face back that you know. Of course I mean what she. Probably I mean of awarding telecast in the late seventies and eighties like forget it. Yeah after winning Miss America may knock it off yeah. Let's go to a couple of fun things before I let you go so what I saw some tweet from you. The cooking's not going. Well dump the whole thing cornstarch in our kitchen and. I don't know if I've discussed this with you before. But Jarrett's like Monica Geller from friends very Houston about cleanliness. And you know I can. I can leave my para shorts on the side of the bed for about three days without moving. And then the weird stare so I was trying to make a stir FRY. We needed a little. Bit Of cornstarch. It went right through my fingers and it exploded on the floor and he just looked at me and it was like the Ralphie moment from Christmas story. Ofa JOB AFTER CLEANUP. No and he didn't speak to me probably for an hour because he was with Q. Tabs trying to get him out of the cracks wine tremendous and then after dinner. I think we had a couple of drinks and I was loading the dishwasher and I said favor I'm sorry and he's like it's fine. It's fine in that. I basically went bowling with one of our salad bowls. I frigging dropped. It cracked into a million pieces. Where am I? This isn't going to stay out of that room. Guidance handed these cute side that is oh my God did you Did you. Are you watching Friday Night Lights? He went on twitter and said were what what. Where do we stand? So this is where I stand I don't like the start of sense. I tried watching it the first month of quarantine you guys throw me into an episode. Were Star quarterback breaks act? And he's got screws in his head with a halo and I mean I'm already gory. Renite at six thirty at night. Because of Lester Holt reports. I can't do hospital rooms right there. That's I'm we're full locked and loaded on billions right now. We're in season three. We do about two episode tonight. It's awesome everyone. Likes that Joe? But you you. And Jared both promise. You'RE GONNA watch the office because jared huge huge Seinfeld guy not and I told you guys to watch the office. You both said you would and still in office so just straight. I'm not happy about that but didn't even say that season one of the offices at Tad slow in season one is only six episodes. So like the I. I think the first one is. What's a little slow but once you get your episode to which would not even get on TV today because it's offensive than it. Then you'll get the appreciation for okay. Fine Full Jarrah. If jared like Seinfeld he would love the office tough. We were dying. We at a quarantine likes driveway. Birthday party were just like everybody brought lawn chairs. And we're all sitting around like six feet apart and whenever buddies had On and we are dying. You should bring up. Larry because if you bring Larry. I'm just going to ask you a million questions about Larry being at your wedding because it's that to me like Larry David in real life a wedding. I can't think of a more like perfect thing to witness so there was a curb episode. We're so weird. We just started watching season Tennessee. No Jarrett's watch some of the curbs that we started watching season ton and vague go to a destination wedding season. Ten in the room is crappy. I guess the rupiah is to invite away wasn't crappy but we were kind of like. Oh God God is going to have anything to do with our wedding out. We actually found out of really good story about Larry at our wedding a couple months ago on someone told us this story so the night before our wedding. We kind of did a welcome dinner where we just had everyone you know. Come to this dinner. 'cause obviously dragged their butts out to Montana and that's where Larry was first on the scene because he didn't go golfing with the guy that afternoon. So we had all this you know kind of buffet style for everyone to go get their food and we had chicken parm station. 'cause Jarrett loves chicken PARM AND THEY COOKED on Blah Blah Blah so. There's a line for the chicken parm station and Larry's in the back talking to some of the hockey players and apparently we don't know who it was but one of our friends. That was all the way in the front of the chicken. Parm station wanted to be with him. So came back to talk to him and Waris looked at him and goes hold on. Were you just in the front of the Chicken Parm? Yeah I was and he goes but you just came back here in your where we all want to be and I guess all our buddy said he instantly took out a no at inserted writing down or that see. That story puts me right in heaven. That's why I would do anything. Like Oh my God that is so Larry that is like you're sitting you and are watching a wedding episode of curb and he came to your destination wedding like there could be material that for him that if we just a whole thing we're like. Oh My Gosh. Can WE VEGAS ANYTHING FROM OUR WEDDING ON THIS? And the other thing we heard was so we got married on top of this mountain. It was freaking hot but it was cold on the day whatever. We can't do anything about the time we thought it was GONNA snow. And apparently so I haven't seen Marianna golf course my husband has. He said that he just doused himself with. Sunscreen usually may or may not mix it in but he was so hot he put his blazer on top of his head and his date at my wedding said that the tags were still on in China. Pull them off and he's like no no no leave him but apparently like as we're walking. I'm walking down the aisle he was doing finger puppets in sign with the shadows. In hockey players are sitting there. Just cracking out. Watch that the taking out of the ped- to write down about this guy from the line of the back line is. That's my favorite thing. Yeah you just came more. We all want be. Why would you call them? All the way back here are. I like I follow his daughter on instagram issue. Will Earth things of him and he posted. She posted something of a day where I think she's trying to like film him with something and he was just like you know it was. It was in the same story as the birds. Yes that was arsenic myself. He hates birds does not like are all. He's a guy who would be perfect for instagram. But I also WanNa mayor because instagram tonight. So you go on twitter. But he should be on instagram in like so many weddings going through People if you if you could put him on a live Cam for thirty minutes a day during quarantine like I would pay nine thousand nine hundred and it's just it's genius it is. It really really is genius. I guess I don't know I'm trying to remember all these little stories because we obviously weren't present to know what was going on. It was all.
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"So that was nice. Yeah we're having a good time doing it. I mean you know I. I don't think Fox predicted us to be to be talked about in quarantine but we appreciate goodness for hosts so that's Kelsey one was when Chris ended up in her car. Because yeah all Russell Wilson at drafted thon right. We were calendar about your wife. I go out just like Russell's it's so funny because every time I have someone on like Schrager Recount Brandon like the media people working from home like the dealing with the tech stuff. Is I find it so amusing because Kyle said it? I said this on the Kyle or it was like I spend my entire day. So can you hear me? Can you see me? It's like so true? It's basically we did that on. This podcast can don't hear you. Yeah Yeah I mean I'm pretty good with staff anyways in my life. I've been helping my husband out because he's been doing zoom calls with the coaching staff development staff with the Los Angeles kings the biggest thing. That's driving me nuts. During this whole thing is we have construction going on on both sides. Our House and it is like one day they're ripping up the road and you know putting in concrete or they're you know just sawing something and you're like holy crap and then the next day they're doing it on the other side yesterday. I just lost it. I mean we went to go take how easy to go to the bathroom outside now. I was just. I didn't have one I was causing. The whole time was like this sucks. Cygnus injured kept saying it's fine. It's almost over. Just relax like they pull up one more sidewalk or piece in the road. I'm GONNA live by buying staving. The podcast and my neighbor next door. They're landscapers came in the one block. But I want you have to help. Jared with the technology stuff is that. I mean what a gem he is. I mean he just doesn't like the whole thing is like well. They're actually. He works with the development team. And so he's actually working with the guys in the minor leagues now and they have to keep them interested in shape updated so he was practicing with me. He'd go upstairs. I'd be down in the office and he'd send me an invite to. Its webex or something like that and he'd be like do you see what I'm trying to share with you and I'm like I see you also don't have to screen from upstairs because I'm listening to you on the Web APPs Wyatt Webex saying and then he brings computer downstairs and it would make that huge screeching thing in my Jarrett. I got it I got it. So the in is when he likes to do his from our dining room table which is great. But it's right in the middle of where the kitchen is and where are like stairs are so it's like you can't come down rocking a sports bra or like the PJ's grabbing a cup of coffee or it's like hey guys hey G. M. L. A. Games no. Yeah I'm always think they can. You go downstairs. Vexes companies thought. So it's fine outdistance like I can't get enough of the quarantine stories like that. They love people just trying to do regular day to day lives in bizarre things. If you hear a mouth breather right now. That's how who just came in from a walk at nyu think I was like sucking on the microphone. You gotta kind of walk. The dogs he this episode of the podcast is sponsored by sleep number. A healthy lifestyle should be easy right veggies. Drink Green smoothies exercise to get heart rate up and then do yoga? Bring your heart rate down. Well maybe it's not so easy but there is something that helps improve everything and you can do it with your eyes closed. It's sleep sleep. Number knows what it takes to sleep your best sleep number three sixty smart.
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"Right now but then you always hear it right after. Oh she looks so sad and it's like no you just don't want to be the I said you don't WanNa be screaming in the losing locker room. You want to have some sort of compassion here. A one of the early on in the season will the weather is still good. You could do most of those sit downs outside. Then you're in pretty good shape by plane goes over and that message as it's gotTa to be controlled then you have to lighting Blah Blah Blah Blah. Tv person and I don't know any kind of bag. Now that's okay you know. I'm just trying to be super positive about it. It's like I I just hope there's GonNa be a way N listen. I Trust Fox a lot. I mean I think we're so good. They're so good with adapting and kind of dealing in still making it. Look sexy and fun. That's something I take a lot of pride with in working with Fox's they just always seem to adjust didn't know how to figure it out and and still make a great experience for the fans. Tom I mean every single sports fan wants the NFL to start on time. He had a lot fans in the stands and have no interruption to the season. But I mean listen. You don't want to like pull out some random positive from this because it's ridic- but there will be major intrigue. I think from framed. Nfl fans like the art of their every Sunday but the fringe fan. If there's no fans in the stands because it's going to be you know SORTA car accident freakshow type of thing and people are GonNa WanNa hear what it's like so I think. Line the benefiting the the networks in terms of ratings. Oh I think if that's the case we may or may not be looking at one of our highest rated seasons of all time I mean you just look it. You look at the draft you look at I mean. I don't care about Golf I. It causes some of the biggest arguments in my house and we were cracking up. How you know. I was sitting there laying on the couch the other day watching the match and you know my Jarrett was saying. Wow It took to get you to sit through a whole Gulf you know broadcast in my cobbling is last in you know. Let's go on like that and Jerry. Jesus Vera get Tom to play these all the time for you to watch in care so I just think we're just so starved for competition. I mean that's the obvious answer that However the League can put on the season. I just feel like everybody is going to be looking for. Because they're so starved. Wanted I know you big into the last dance which ebbing everyone was what? Who Do you WanNa see like a sports doc? On that's like the question discussion. Everyone is having like who should be the subject of the next big. I know Tom's doing doing one but that's already happening. Is there one you think would be good? Yeah tally exciting I I. I'm a homer I mean I'd like to see it on those celtics years that I was a fan and brought up on them and Just because it reminds me so much of my dad I'd also like to see. Look I don't know if you can do it on a certain athlete on athlete. Besides maybe a Jordan or a Tom Right now I mean. Kobe could be great And it be as captivating as Michaels was. I'd I'd like to see it on. Great teams are troy. A couple of days ago out here in California and we're talking about maybe if they would do it On during their reign with the cowboys I'd love to see one. You know like I said with the Celtics. I'd love to see one with far. But that's me just being a homer of the teams. I grew up watching cousin. My Dad Yeah I stuff like that would be great the cowboys one value on big. That would pay now. It would be Super Fun. I just kind of want it to be and I am interested to see how Tom and Gotham are. GonNa do there. Because they Michael's the last dance put out kind of such a road map of what works for people with the music. The cussing interviews the in Hammond and being so candid That is such a standard now to watch. These may be. Put these out there with the cowboy one in the stories. I've been privileged to hear with which Roy and especially when he gets role in. You're like damn booster is better van. There this thing is you can be as good. You know eligible war drinks and tell me the the thing about the cowboys won. I think could be phenomenal. But it can't be like Jordan in that where join apartment like the cowboys won. Whoever makes it would have to have free rein to tell the stories because you know like to me the best thirty for thirty still even better than the last dance for me personally is still the you the match. I think joke. That's how the cowboys won. I think would because the was as entertaining is anything. It was so good I remember Ping. I forgot where we were. I think it was during the. Nfl playoffs that that came out. I think it was in in January or something and I was just texting troy the whole time and be like this is unbelievable. Because you know he's in it and so forth and great. Yeah I mean I agree with you. Everything would have to be out on the table. The problem with that is Michael Troy Emmett. They're also connected still with the organization acne ended. Can THEY REALLY BE? I mean we're talking seven times a year. You know what I mean so I don't know well speaking of that. You're in Dallas seven time but I think tap is GonNa be your new home. Yeah that has to go. That's got up to guy but I don't really like that. I'm telling you week one bucks saints that has got you had to be a jumping up and down. So that's we actually got it. I got a diem or tax. Forgot what it was from Tom. The day schedule came out. And he said we want Allah G and I was like what like thinking to myself with..
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"Dan. Patrick Show Really Schrager Chris. Long or after a few congress on the road yard. I've offer or trained dermatologist. Vice of agitprop stars because Zigal now being an extra earnings from what does knocked me other. I couldn't walk seinfeld anymore. I couldn't watch you know any other thing so it was like going to town on my face and I walked out of the bathroom in Cheeses or you don yet. Soon instead of pulling hair out of my head. I'm like extracting everything that's ever been in my skin since I was in fifth grade. Probably you need like a guest starring role on Doctor Triple Pop God. I can't like watch it without looking away but when it comes to try and do you know. Get things out of my skin. I just think I am like I went to school for it. It's disgusting. I can't yeah that I mean listen. You have it much worse than the Women. Have much worse than men's but it's you know. I looked in the mirror. The of the dam like the eyebrows growth was just really completely out of control. Good save that because like I was actually full on examining my eyebrows last night and there's just some areas it won't grow refused grow because I think you know when I was younger. I was like plucking doing that. Fun like thin. Line situation that they had in the nineties. So enjoy every minute of that. Don't pay when you don't have to go into an office. It's just the up kit. What what is the deal with like are you? What's the deal with jared tear like? Have you proposed giving him a haircut really now? Let you go near his head with scissors. What's now my husband's way to vein. He you know He. There was a minute where he was talking about. Maybe you know having me go up there with a razor and then I was like no way and how. I'm touching you because thanks for this job am GonNa hate the way it looks in be. You'RE GONNA be pissed so actually there's a guy around here that everybody's friends with that was kind of doing haircuts for the boys and they would be in the driveway. And everybody's wearing masks and stuff like that so it's totally fine by me. That would have been a good though. No never obviously we all know what the deal is with Fox sports in the NFL back. What's the deal dancing with the stars right now? It was it supposed to be on now. Is it a fall show because I was like? What your status a yeah. We were actually this off season anyway so we are to come back usually right when football comes back to make things. Harry scary for me. So it on 'til thanksgiving so I mean we are up in the air. I mean I saw that are renewed. I texted a few people to see if there was any news. But it's just I mean it's like the six o'clock news out here in L. A. And I know you how you have it out there in New York. It's just everything is just so up in the air. I mean retail stores are starting to open up here. We're on the same plane as you guys are in terms of being locked down So in terms of Hollywood TV shows. And I mean I guess even games just nobody knows right. Now it's crazy as I guess. Joe Teams like obviously to people dancing. So that's an issue. Yeah I would stay away from. Most of the people like doesn't seem but those two people are going to be pretty pretty tense for them. I guess yeah I mean I think like Wii Eliminate the audience right because or try to figure out a way to keep the audience. I just don't think you can have an audience right now. That's a very very tight Studio and then. Tom And I can obviously be pretty far apart. And then interviewing The dancers you can do those long boom mics that you have seen other reporters us But Yeah I mean. The biggest thing are the dancers and everybody that comes together now. are dancers are awesome in terms of. They'll do anything for this show. So if you have to tell the nail to be quarantined together on the Lauder in an apartment complex the to get back on the show I think the stars in the celebrities would be carnival interesting twist to it all because these people have some of them have families. You know significant others. They WANNA be quarantined on our show. Our show takes about three months so just not sure how they're going to do it besides the old. Let's take your temperature and if you get sick You know yeah. I haven't heard any specifics but I've definitely kind of thought about scenarios in how they would handle it. It's GonNa be interesting unless they do dancing six feet apart. I mean unless they do dances physically this year. Where you're not touching your almost like a jazz routine or something where you're specifically far apart from your dancer. I'll add another layer to if let's say in a perfect world there's no coronavirus and let's say dancing with the stars comes back in September whenever it is and you could pick any current athlete to be honest with you. WanNa see on it. I mean I always wanted to see on it because I just think he would be so fine. And you know a he just adds excitement and another energy level I think the long brothers would be great. I know they are playing anymore. But they'd be hilarious But I big guys always fun and it's awesome on just because it gives me somebody to talk to about football and they're the best ones to do the show. They are performers. They know how to adjust on the fly. They Know How to take criticism coaching. They've got showmanship they're just yeah they're so ideal for our show and that's why they do so while so speaking of athletes as what do you think. So what have you thought about like what you're how different your job is going to be? If there's no fans in the stands because a you you should there behind the bench usually are not sit. But you're usually walking around right buying the benches and picking up information. I would imagine a lot easier for you to overhear stuff with no fans this end easier to over here. Probably the one thing I was thinking a lot about what is going on and off with the coach and a lot of the times I am connected to their heads because it is so loud. And you're going through an area where you know. The opposing fans are screaming. But now I won't be able to be that close and I was thinking you know. Would we do it with boom mic so instead of like walking and talking and writing that could just record it and then play back for me so I could give the report? You know what I'm saying. Yeah but if somebody had said the other day while you don't need it you don't need to be so close to them because there aren't going to be anything I in case there aren't GonNa be any fans it's not going to be that loud so yeah. I've thought a lot about a lot about stuff. Thought about these. Sit Down interviews that we do with guys at the facilities as Zach. Going to be allowed it. How much is going to change? Obviously I don't have to sit very close to the guy To get the shot but it still get a lot from being at the facility versus doing a sitdown zoom interview that Tom Brady or you know Patrick. Mahomes so yeah. It's also really interesting. Doing the reported the players in the summer and probably hear you which will be awkward. Could kind of weird too? I mean that's the worst kind of situation when we are in the losing locker room for Super Bowl or NFC championship. You're sitting there and everybody. I my dad always says to me. Hey try not to sound so sad and I'm like Oh my God it's just I don't WanNa scream because you're using locker room when you don't want the guys to be like yeah no shit you know. We know we lost. We don't need to hear you know so you try exfoliating. Yeah yeah losing especially to like. If it's a it's like a Bella jet guy like what are you going? Go AND THEY SO BILL. You just lost the super bowl out right now but then you always hear it right after. Oh she looks so sad and it's like no you just don't want to be the I said you don't WanNa be screaming in the losing locker room..
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She helped enact leads to create California's Fund for safe and affordable drinking water Quetta who describes himself as a born again feminists consciously incorporated feminism into her fight for workers rights and push Gloria Steinem and the one thousand nine hundred sixty s to expand the feminist movement to include issues of race thereby helping make feminism and Movement for all women not just white women from the beginning. Dolores wet has also been an environmental champion fighting to protect workers from harmful pesticides sanding shoulder to shoulder with native Americans at Standing Rock and picking up litter after every rally she led. I Talk About a fiftieth anniversary with my hero and living legend Dolores Wetter Kelly. Working Fourteen hour days with Heff Foundation to make sure farmwork has have access to protective equipment food and benefits during this pandemic. And if you thought you knew everything about Delores also talk about why she loves burning man. Dolores where are you right now all right now? I'm in the belly of the beast. I'm in Bakersfield California Bakersfield and all of Kern county. You are going through really rough times right now. Dolores is a lot of people that have been laid off. I think it's over a thousand oil workers that have been laid off. One of the company is completely. Shut Down Lager. People EARN EMPLOYEES CIVILLY TRAGIC. But we know at the same time. And that's why we see that our air is a little cleaner a usually here in Kern county. We are women the worst areas of pollution for air pollution in the country. And we know that that air pollution really affects not only the physical health especially if the children but also the mental health of children. Here we have Not only to freeways that can make your highway ninety nine and highway five of but then we have all of the pollution that comes from the Agricultural Industry Caesar industrial growers that have not really converted their tractors They're so easy in a lot of diesel. It's a big struggle and when you try to bring to the attention they consider this to be an attack instead of thinking. Okay what do we have to do to make them more economically friendly jobs for people so these are the challenges that we have ahead of us as we try to convert all of the fossil fuel industries into industries. That are more friendly for everybody. So deloris in the late fifties and sixties when you have founding the farmworker movement and and really bringing those issues to the full when whether environmental issues like drinking water and air quality and pesticide runoff. How did those issues fest? Come to your attention right at the beginning at the very beginning you know. I grew up in Stockton California which is also like a cultural area. I was in a field in. I see this what I thought was fog rolling in but I thought how can you have fog in the summertime? Well it was a pesticide residue. That was rolling in. That was one of the first things that farmer who's complained about about the effects of Pesticides. And so we had so many cases of pesticide poisonings. Sometimes Terry crews like thirty. Forty people would been poisoned at the same time. How can this happen? Slow regard for the health farm workers so one of the first contracts that I signed a day. Employers tell exactly how many pesticides they were going to spray and where they were going to be spread out and then we passed legislation to make sure that the appeals are posted of when they sprayed some of these dangerous pesticides and then we work very very hard to get some of these dangerous pesticides restricted and banned forever and unfortunately a lot of pesticides we had because like Didi they were then shipped to Mexico to Latin American countries. And so here but we had all of these farmers could children that. Were being bored with these horrible deformities being born without arms without legs so horrific here you had children in Mexico and parts of Latin America. That were having exactly the same type of affection disabilities that were coming from pesticides
Making of a CRISPR Film: Behind the Scenes with Producers of Human Nature
"Highly one. Welcome to crisper cuts. I'm super excited about today's episode because today via celebrities on our show yesterday said I goodwin Elliott Kirschner their producers of the human nature. Movie for those of you. Who Don't know what this movie is about. It basically covers jody of crispell onto joining us today on. This show is given Holden head of science at San Diego. So this is GonNa be a great episode all adjoining Menu Today on the Chris Cast so as me as well food we get started. Can you just introduce yourself and give your background before you became producers of this movie? My name is Sara Goodwin producer at Pfizer. My background action is in Science. I teach the UCS and the I turned into a science communicator. Joining and leading an organization about project called I biology which has an initiative area cocoa butter collaborates at produced. This felt and so that's how I got. Involved Elliott leaks elected project to it which is great blog. Si- thank you. I'm Elliot Kirschner. So I came to this project after many years working in news and documentary film back shake round side poverty the scientists but I really sort of more general reporting but it was always interested in telling the stories of science while find ways those little bobble and interesting ways that could challenge conventional wisdom's sites. Could be and so. We were looking for a topic to really make a big film to just tell an important story in ways that we would be different end. Hopefully engage audiences in new ways. And so I've secret spurs such huge story touches almost every aspect of the biomedical sciences but also exchanging meaning Dmitri society all that so when we decided on this topic we really washed and built a team of filmmakers and scientists together to make a documentary. That sounds great. So basically you kind of briefly mentioned how the idea of doing a film on crisper about but still there seems to be a lot that needs to be figured out. Even you know what basic topic you're going far. So can you tell us a little bit about behind the scenes of how you decided you know right right makes off researchers and patients and how the story would flow and not just make it like a scientific presentation but more like a movie by itself that we knew going in we want it to be so and we know it to be a story that would appeal to a general audience so that was the directive from the very beginning. We didn't WANNA make quote unquote educational video. We also wanted to make something that felt cinematic. I mean there's a wonderful rich history. A science explainer television that kind of stuff that people any think tank stock entries the short length of one hour television affair with a heavy raider voice. That kind of thing as well. That wanted to do something that would play on a big screen. That would make the decision. We didn't want it narrator. We wanted to let the scientists speak for themselves. Who wanted to film this with a cinematic spoke? Mind musical score all that we WANNA make a film so that was sort of the original directive that we give to ourselves once we got there. The question was okay. What is a science film there if you go to sundance or we premiered at South by southwest or the major some festivals. It's not like there's a lot of science programming a lot of science documentary and so we sort of had a lot of leeway. What is modern science stone-built look like but that's when the decision making came in about what the style would be. But as for the substance we also knew we wanted to work with the very beginning to sort of develop a story line or story lines that were true to the Science. Not only the facts of the science but the ethos of science idea. What is scientific discovery? How how did serendipity and the search for knowledge or basic research play into the story and then what are. These are more broader societal issues so those are all pieces together but I think one of the key things early on we had a meeting at woods hole. Report the film team. And we brought in George Church George Staley Jennifer Dowd Or All your own rights leaders in this field and we just had the two days of brainstorming about what they thought the story was and where they thought the scientists building and that really sort of helped direct the editorial in obviously Sarah being trained scientists being on this very beginning really helped shape bet as iterative throughout the process and this this film many many different forms over the course of its production as we try to tease out what science metric would be. And I'd say one thing that was really. It's worked to us from the beginning to make sure we told the story of the discovery of crisper and turning crisper to technology which is a story. That's off the told when crisper is talked about because it's actually a fascinating basic science research story of we really wanted to show. Elliot said you know how the process of sites works. How knowledge is created. And so as a scientist you know is able to really go back to the literature. I read you know as much primary literature as I could around the crisper discovery. And he's together as best they could also used reviews that were out there. This summit really helped a lot but it really helped us kind of have a deep understanding of the steps that it took to really understand what crisper was and decide who we wanted to interview might actually ended up interviewing or people than even made it into the cell because they were hardest story. But you know at the end of the day we wanted to have a film that was around ninety minutes of you. Just can't include everything that you want to. And so that was interesting viewpoint. Make us a kind of behind the scenes. Look when we were editing as to what should be in on should be out especially for me coming more from the science side of things which dirt's look really vital to have Sarah's voice project I think that was one of the real unique elements that we we built into the production framework in that throughout the discussion of who'd interview with talk about what's the balanced bill. There was constant discussion between still making team and science group that were just challenging our own assumptions pushing in different ways and I think that dynamic process really led to its own that is it relates that scientists in a way that it's not just about what we say on exerts absolutely right. We tried to all the Discovery Story. But just the way the scientists are allowed to speak the decisions made about what to include what not to include. I mean this was really dictated throughout by I think very nuanced understanding of how science works and I think that that hopefully shines through that when scientists watch at the dotted understand world and. I think that that is is really important to try to convey in film the impression of Palestine Science work as well as the actual facts over trying to convey right. Yeah absolutely does shine through. I love the myself so they can thank you. I just wanted to ask you guys. So I'm sorry. You mentioned some of the people that you interviewed for the film curious. Do you have any particular anecdotes funny or like most surprising moments came out through so making process in the interviews. People talk about a great question. I mean I'd say the first thing that comes to mind is actually what a treat it was to be Cisco he goes. Who's early crisper researcher at the University Valid? Kante got to go to Spain and meet him and be in his lab and he showed us a lot of Israeli shells. Found THE REPEATS. A very special time to be serving. Someone who usually isn't spoken about when Christopher is talked about but in general like say what was a real treat for me as a scientist is a lot of the people he's interviewed. I L about their science at baby. Give a research talk. But I've never really got to hear them talk about kind of the more ethical. Societal implications of the crisper work and Atta did most interviewing I think did a wonderful job really probing people trying to get you know. They're on his thoughts on something as science discovery. That is really going to have an impact in so many different ways throughout the world to end the scientists were really wonderful in be sharing their thoughts with us. I think you know included a lot of that on. I think makes a lot richer because it shows how scientists are people to beat other families. They have a lot of thoughts about how science works and technology is used and it was really nice to be able to hear a lot of that and then of course you know getting these really wonderful. I mean so make it of course offered was a key researcher for comment DNA. Which is the topic we cut off. But you were going to go much forgotten. Just cut it Due to time and really trying to make the story as clear as possible but he's just just a wonderful person and getting to meet him was just a really special
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"You want to try to help some of these people there are moments where you want these people to rotten out like is it like does the roller coaster Draw you in on a show like that. Yes and there's an identity thing with joe himself and by the way I should correct myself. I called him Joe Exotic we. We deserve to give him his proper name. Joe Maldonado passage. Okay as down again. That he took no one question he just had his last name. He Maldonado from the husband. What's the hubbing was just and then passage was the next husband and I think it was. He was trying to do that to find legal loopholes to get away from like litigation because his name is different like it's he had it all. He tried everything. But we'll Maldonado passage. He is now this like Kind of lovable figure like maybe in the sense that like you know dog. The bounty hunter was like navy. Sort of guy. Fieri is like one of those however like Joe Definitely wanted her dead and probably paid for her to be dead. I mean knows a convicted foundries in prison. So this person that we're all me-meeting laughing about you know everyone's envisioning Halloween costumes is. I would probably bet my life paid to have a woman murdered in cold blood. So that's kind of a tough thing to reconcile number one. I got knowledge the way you said Fieri right there. 'cause I'm a fan? It's already and I've met with guy and it's it's fucking Fioretti Dude. Don't ever say theory. You're dead to him. I don't want to tell you that I'm not a diners drive INS and dives not a fan but Jimmy. That's what makes the world go round as they say. Now I agree that Joe Exotic to me is a horrible human being and I never. I never felt any sympathy cramps and the two three things in that. Show that I'll give you the three things that disturbed me the most gone and I want your take on a I honestly like you. Touch on was the suicide of the husband. Just if you're just so sad. Ju Yeah just incredibly sad the whole thing the guy straight. He's Meth and who knows in the Jimmy is his his mom. Is that the funeral. In which Joe Maldonado passage not only is inexplicably dressed like a priest. But then he also sings at the funeral with the mom front row and then the mom of the kid who shot himself comes to Joe's next wedding two months ago and then is mad at Joe for having the wedding even though she attended again. That's a show not that that's not an episode of his show right that is entire show and in this show. It's a drop in the bucket. So that's number one. What are your other two number two. It's a little bit of a lighter note but it really did. Repulse me. The Walmart Walmart expired may truck okay. One of the most sickening things I've ever seen on television show absolutely disgusting. They they had this shot where they dump out the wrapped meat chicken legs and whatever the hell comes from Walmart. The story being Walmart has the stuff. It's expired nobody bought. It will go and get it now. I was revolted merely at the idea that the animals were eating this expired right just because think expired meters gross but then the next go ahead you can take it so. Maldonado passage the entrepreneur at heart says. Hold on a second. Now I can make some boxer if I make pizza. I'll make the best pizza in Oklahoma however we got to put some meat on. The speech began sell cheese. Lightbulb over my head. Wait we got some spare a sausage and pork. You know lying around beef. Maybe I'll just take some of that Walmart meat. Put It on top of pizza and sell up the human beings and they can eat it and I actually. I almost lost it right. That's how watching all of that expired. Me Just get Outta the truck into bucket or whatever it was really just this absolute disgusting and Jimmy. You guys me which is like I look at expiration dates on everything. I'm the guy who will throw away the Italian dressing if it's passed as expiration date by a week even though all this bullshit. I still throw it away so like a Turkey leg. That's been sitting at room temperature if not aw makes me so absolutely disgusting. So those are the. Is the pizza your most disturbing moments and then the third the most disturbing for me the one that the one that got me the angriest probably and I know reality. There's nothing you can do about this. And it's the way we the country you live in and I I get it. This isn't gun thing or liberals say that is absolutely Watching the fact that he had a web shop but he would ghost hunter and take a gun and shoot the head off of blowup dolls or whatever they were supposed to be a baskin. I'm sorry but I don't know I get free speech I get this. I don't know why I don't have a real person. He shooting the gun on the block. Doll I get it but look what it led to. I don't I don't I just. I'm sorry normal. People don't do that even if it's not a real human being you're not. I mean you're broadcasting this to whatever there's something about that that just inherently bothered me so much and it's it's a damn shame that just all that That old video just randomly burned down. Just like a random arsonist. Joe had nothing to do with. Saddam happened like that. Probably like lint cigarette or something like that you know I have. I don't have a list but I have two things that I would describe as like my underrated moments of the show like the the biggest moments but that I just absolutely loved. I had to wait a second. Let's not forget about this. One is when When SAF has the accident and loses the arm in some reason. Joe Needlessly makes a really dramatic announcement to the gift shop patrons. Rock on there wasn't an incident. Somebody lost an arm. I just want everybody to know that seem that seem gratuitous and excessive and incite panic. Like what you say you know. We've had an incident. We need to shut down. He couldn't wait to do it like that was very strange moment and he offered to refund which. I guess that was prudent. The second one is really quick and in the final three episodes are allowed about Jeff Lowe who you can just you can smell the car coming off of Jeff. But there's a moment when they're running through what Jefferson through US doing in which they just brush over this thing that he had a failed business in which he had a Las Vegas Strip shuttle service in which you would take the shuttle bus to Casino Casino and play with exotic cats which is just like the stupidest business I've ever heard as a vegas guy. I've been the big show. You've been there like what you don't need on. The bus ride from Mandalay to the Mirages is a tiger cat like you are titillated by innumerable things around you the scenery of the Strip. You're drunk the music if you're doing drugs if they're strippers like the last thing you need is that there's a coup- baby tiger. It's so stupid. And that was his idea and there was just brushed aside like oh he had this one thing. Red Tigers on the Strip and it's called Jungle Shuttleworth. I'm glad you brought that up because I know like I used to go to Vegas every single year for the NCAA tournament with my friends and been there for weddings etc. And I'm thinking to myself if I was there with my friends and one of my buddies. I have one in particular. I'M NOT GONNA name names. He he enjoys the spearmint Rhino. I'm not sure if he said. Do you WanNa go to the spearmint Rhino. And let's say why not. Let's go and he's like. Hey we're going to get in this car and there was.
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"But my devil's advocate. Question would be like does it not. Does it not get old after like fifteen minutes? You know what I mean like. It's you Kinda WanNa know the score. You WanNa see the high quality replays and you're like I like this but it gets old for example like I've stumbled upon some old Nintendo Games and they're they are still really fun but after like twenty minutes. I'm like all right I get. I like this when I was nine. And it's it's it's pretty basic right now and simplistic and it's not exactly my hair back like it used to. I think I would stick. Listen I mean it would help if they were compelling games? I think they'll some on twitter. Who read the concept you tweet? They're like I just give me any game that Charlie Jones at Merlin Olsen are calling. I've enjoyed your recommendation on twitter. You've been affected. I watched I did watch something. Base of your. It was on my list of things to watch him so he joins marriage stores fuck. So here's the deal I'm not I'm not Seifi. You know Lord of the Rings Harry Potter Star Wars Bullshit Guy. I people and dialogue and some realism in my movies. So marched on my list. I started you tweet about it. So let me give this. A whirl. Didn't love it and I'm not quite sure. War dern won an Academy Award Ford either but like she wasn't even in it that much but that's just me but that was. That was an interesting one to sit through a mistake. Now don't talk now. Did you sit there and watch that with your wife? No I do? Not Oh okay okay. No no no but I feel like in a way though Jimmy actually felt like I did because like I felt like she was sitting there with me the whole time and look at anybody. Listen to this right now. Who has not seen this movie? Marriage story with Adam driver and Was Scarlett Johansson. If you're a married guy or married woman it's it absolutely terrifies you and rattles the shit out of your cage about like. I can't mess this up like if if I get divorced as suppose in with kids like screw it absolutely can ruin your life in so many ways so i. I'm sitting there watching it. I'm enjoying it as far as the acting writing the stuff but like I kind of text in brook throughout like go issues downstairs Watson something else how are we doing you know love you go through this? I would like I would rather lose a leg than what are you for dinner honey. I'm cooking tonight. Yeah whatever you want pick and I'll go get it and then I thought maybe I'd give you like a back massage later. Whatever you want I just love you and I'd like you to so all those things man when it was over. I said I gotta ask how he sat there like on the couch. Why can his arms watching that movie because that would have been rocked? I loved that movie. I will say Alan Alda. I thought was great. Fantastic and you. Here's voice before you see him. You're like Oh that's all voice and you know for you and I like we didn't grow up like we're mash. Guys were too young for Mash so like I don't have an Alan alda thing like my parents do like. They grew up with him like that. That's their. He's a huge deal for that generation. I don't know Donald at all however free time he's in a movie like he's really good in the movie. The later that a CAPRIO heart hughes movies small part but just antastic in it and I thought that movie to the weird thing about that just quickly as it like I don't. I never watched the show. Girls never saw that so I never saw Adam driver until he was Kylo Ren who is like the evil sift from star wars movies so this is the first thing that I've seen him where he doesn't have a lightsaber. And Mike Iowa. This guy's like some sort of acting prodigy like he's amazing. Yeah I I watch a couple of episodes of girls in had a stop at those were shows. I've ever seen and I'm not like overly familiar with that drivers work either but yeah. I mean him. It's great I just. There's something about the movie. I didn't hit it for me. But how would you compare their romance chemistry between that of Joe Exotic and his two husbands? That's where I was going so I was going to say since you're the guest since you're the guest. I'm GonNa let you choose what you WANNA do. I do Tiger King I or the office I what do you WanNa do? I WanNa go chronological order from what I've done in this quarantine so that would take a sniper thing. Okay so tiger king. I banged it out in one day. Two Sundays ago. watched it all in one sitting. How did you do it in sittings or all all at once and for context? You're listening to this now. Jimmy and I are recording this. This is the last day in March. Okay whenever it is the this you're listening to it. So the tidal wave of Tiger King is. It's kind of still at its peak but it's not on the way up it maybe even on the way down. I watched it two weeks ago when people were still saying. Like what is this tiger king thing and I had one friend whose opinion I respect. Who just like dude is the tax that Dude Period. Watch Tiger van net flicks. Just watch it. That was the tax and I was like all right and so I sat down with broken. We watched it not only one day. We watched one city. We never stops in. That was like the clock to say the next episode And this is how I would best describe it. Is that an episode in even two episodes in. You're like okay I got it. It's like the you know kind of rednecks zoo. These southerners who are colorful personalities. They work with tigers. And that's the show and I'm going to watch a show about these these rednecks tires. Okay I can handle that and then like episode three four and five year like Holy Shit. This is nothing about that. This is way more intense and layered and deep and messed up than I anticipated. I got completely sucker punched by what happens. Subsequent to the last the first couple episodes. I couldn't believe where it went. You don't have that cliche like where people would people get in arguments. disagreements They say well you know what? That's what's great is you know. It's always great when you don't everyone agrees with you. The world would be so boring if everyone agreed with young. I totally hate that take and I want everyone to agree with me and the reason why I love you and love having you on this show is because what you just said was exactly might experience in every thought you had had with it so I had. I had one of my when my work buddies might work son for Shabas. He's like yeah twelve so he's my work son. He texted me on a Saturday. And said you gotTa Watch Tiger King? This is the new trump with cats. Because HE I. I watched that we had gotten into that on that. Flex and I looked at the image from the Netflix Shrem. Like I'm not watching this and I don't know why it's not something I'm proud of but I had this thing where it's like. My first reaction was like leave me alone. I'm not watching this at but in my head on like I know I'M GONNA end up watching us and then the next day I put it on and like the first episode. I was just like I don't know sticking with us. It just seems like this is a show about some crazy guy who has tigers. And I'm not interested in and then the end of episode two is when should start getting real to quote year old show Nanna? I actually sent out a tweet after I finished it that a lot of people seem to enjoy where I said. I get such a kick out of people who are tweeting about tiger king. When they've only seen the first two episodes I I think I said was because they haven't even rounded first base yet so it's really the perfect now I I'm going to if you're listening to this podcast. I appreciate it but I'm gonNA despoilers so if you haven't watched or you're in the middle of it you may WanNa just skip ahead here and scroll till there's no tagging talk but we gotta despoilers at this point. Do be doing that Jimmy. Because people were listening to this right now who have not watch tiger king yet. They are part of the tribe about like. I'm tired of hearing about this guy. Dim piker king. It's too much. It's the hit show. It's annoying everybody. I follows tweeted by. I'm not watching the shit so I kind of respect that mentality on these things. So if you're one of those people who just decided blindly you're not watching the Shit. That's fine scarlet head but those are also the people who think the corona virus is just like the flow. So you know you have to be careful giving them too much credit a lot of credit but they get to skip ahead. I think what we're agreeing on his. It seems to me that they set the stage early on in your like this could be an okay show and then it goes crazy. It does that a couple times because like three episodes in your like all right now I got it now. It's not just about this guy who has tigers it's a whole show is about this guy versus woman and they're going to battle for seven episodes or whatever it is and she loves the Tigers and she doesn't respect him and that's what it's GonNa be and then they are like always second. This woman also might have murdered her husband. And you're an an and not just murder fed. Iniguez JIMMY. She titles so that all right. So now we have two lunatics. And we'll just ride this out for the rest of the show. I'm totally satisfied. I don't need anything else. I got my pizza my beer. I don't need any of like. Have we introduced you to this guy? Jeff low yet because it's going to shut up a lot with his only hat and his headband. And then they're like oh there's going to be a suicide and Joe's GonNa marry two different guys in fact three and we're pretty sure all of them are heterosexual but it just keeps coming. It never stops. And here's the thing you just game a great recap. Okay and summed up the insanity even mention the other guy who joe sort of wanted to emulate who he come a doc doc and he has like twelve wives like it's not. I don't understand you can just go anywhere and just marry as many people as you want now. When did this happen? This is this is also a great point. And here's the deal with tiger king. You're hearing and I taught we're talking about right now. There are things in which you could make a three season series exclusively about them and they're just like afterthoughts and tiger king like the they're just any little things for example one of my favorite moments in tiger king in addition to dock in the polygamy on all of that stuff is so. There's THIS CHARACTER SAF. Saf is the works with the Tigers and SAF loses an arm to the Tigers. Like there's an incident. Unfortunately it's not on camera but Saf loses an arm. And they say like there's this ridiculous. I have to interrupt you on camera. It was on camera but we didn't see tiger rip off though from a distance what we saw the titans. We saw the tiger put the arm in his mouth or mouth. All right and so staff is sitting and telling the story insane while you know the doctor came to me in was like look. It's GONNA be like two years of Rehab and stuff and now like I cut it off like who years. It's it's your arm like if it's twenty years you do it and SAF also couched it. Being met like it would draw more media attention to the incident and SAF to not want that attention. So just cut the thing off and I'm gonNA come right back to work with the same tigers and I want everyone understand that this lunatic you're hearing about is definitely the most level headed person in the whole show with tiger king without a deck added no outer no media. Attention Marquette. I don't know and also Aaron Raulston in like he gets credit. Aron Ralston is that is the guy who cut his arm off mountain. Climbing and James Franco played them in the movie. Like I think SAF is the new Roulston EH. Roster cut his arm off with a pocket knife but SAF was back at work feeding tigers like a few days after the Tigers bitter ethnic rows example. Roulston what do you think it says about us where I know for me. I think one of the things like subconsciously that I love about a show like that. Is that there a moment? You are literally disgusted in have no faith in humanity. And you're angry about what's going on. There are monitor your laughing your ass off. There are moments where.
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"To get you know Forget about like Algebra. Let's just talk about like a mid week. Basketball game roots are going to take to get nineteen thousand people to crowd into a sweaty Kim to see the wasp Washington Wizards play. That's a I think that there are real questions out there about how fans are going to respond to this Moving forward you know. So they're gonNA There could be. I mean this is all hypothetical of course but there could be based on that changes at all. The leaks have have to make in order to sort of you know. Try to reengage fans and get fans. Moore's invested into into seeing some of those games right. I'm wondering too again. I know you said it's dark but I want to try to at least stay little positive. Let's say let's talk that if Jimmy the Saint Louis is beating Seattle twenty three to sixteen in the fourth quarter right now on episode but is that A. That's an old game though. Right okay The the let's see things let's say September. We get rolling here do you? Do you think the leagues are going to have to work with each other in terms of I mean we're GonNa have the masters the Kentucky Derby the NBA playoffs the NHL Playoffs. Mlb NFL all logistic standpoint too. There's you know. Espn would have to work. Some things out Fox would have to work some things that are they going to space things out a little bit. I would think that they would have to work with each other if only because I I if let's say Fox has you know the NFL and Fox also has US Open. You know so it's going to have to go on. You Know Fox sports one or one of them are as I can tell you the US Qa and the NFL don't want the NFL doesn't WANNA regular season Sunday game on F s one and the USDA certainly doesn't want championship on on F S. One so how are they going to be able to sort of? You know swing around that. I think that Right now the logjam that is being created In the fall with all of these postponements as opposed to cancellations is going to Is GonNA create a Lotta is gonNA create a lot of column inches for me to write about certain create a lot of havoc just because of the there? Aren't that many TV channels. Actually you know. Carry everything at the same time and I always have to bring this up because I am a wwe fan. It's pretty crazy. 'cause I if you're if you're a longtime hardcore wwe fan you know. Vince McMahon will never cancel anything. So they've kept things going with smackdown on Friday with no audience Monday night raw no audience and they announced Wrestlemainia. They will do again with no audience at their performance center. The I it's interesting to me. I want to get one of the wrestlers on but even that seems i. Guess if you're they're only going to have their people there but they are in contact with each other. I don't know it's about it is Wrestlemainia is the biggest money making thing there from the wwe. And Vincent Man you're not GonNa make that money so why even go through with the with the Event so I have to admit I did not watching the wrestling a fan. What's it like to watch with no fans? I mean I is it. Cool at all or is it like. It's cool for a little bit and that wears off and then it's just really weird Yeah Yeah I can't I can't understand I Y I. I'm not certain why they made that decision. To sort of do Rut Wrestlemainia. The way they're doing it and I also wonder if that's if that's actually going to go on. I mean you saw the you have C. Finally oh it'll it'll go on. I'll because vince mcmahon vince. Mcmahon's entire philosophy what he tries always promote what he tries to sell everything. As is that the no-one entertained you better than the wwe. The what they do best is entertain fans and they're gonNA keep entertaining the fans. He he also did decide to shut down the XFL Which I'm sure I'm sure it was tough. It was one of the last ones to to to do it so I you know we. We don't know I mean we don't know what it's going to what our society is going to look like in two days much two weeks. So it's I you know. Call me a little skeptical. That that they're going to continue to go through with that although go through with it because there's going to be nobody there in the audience so I think I if I'm if I'm a betting man they will go through with that but plays out I wanNA talk about Brady and get off of all this For a little bit but one last thing you mentioned earlier about and I I should have followed up on it when you mentioned it about ESPN and other networks doing low budget shows. It's I saw before we started. There was a tweet from Tony. Reality around the Horn where they were sort of doing their show. Yeah it wasn't that I I I have a feeling. That's what I think the creativity from people in this business. I think you'll be seeing more things like that. I got a buddy my buddy sal LICATA works at. Nyu local met Station Television Station. And he told me you know. They do debate shows during the day and he told me today. They're gonNA try to do a virtual a digital debates whether all on skype using the cameras just like around the horn. So I think you could still get. My issue is not that it's more about what are you GONNA do. I mean who's better Lebron Jordan can only take you so far. I think people do like that. So maybe it's just me on that people like that it's a we are stuck in a certain a certain way but burke magnus talked about different stunt programming which you know is necessary. It's going to be like you know. Top Ten Dallas cowboys plays all time or top ten plays from the twenty nine thousand nine season or top ten. You can really get deep down and actually come up with a ton of shows which is sort of what the NFL network does on during prime time it seems it does seem like MLB network NFL network. Atv can just use old games. I'd love to see I'm going to write about this. So don't steal this from me but I I'd love to see. Mlb network gives us old episodes of the baseball bunch with Johnny Bench. I think there's you know. Nfl Network can do some Give me some old ANA. No Brenton Jimmy. The Greek kind of things. I think you know if they can get this if they can get the footage to pay for the get the right whatever it is. I think you could really getting the key to that is to get you have to get the highlights of it because you know. Espn an entire channel dedicated. Just showing these old games. Yeah and it got even though I'm sure you love that channel. Espn classic. I did to it. Got The lowest ratings that you could possibly imagine fans. Don't watch those old games a lot of say they will but the ratings show that they don't agree with you a hundred percent but the but the difference here is. They don't have any other games to watch that or nothing. It's true enough to that or nothing to me. Jimmy was I was always watching that nineteen eighty-four orange bowl and I watched it and then something would happen and I'd have to leave the TV. And I'd Miss Doug Flutie's pass. It'd be like God was happening. I think the I think fans you know they'll take that at this point. I really think they will Let's all right. Let's move on from all of us just for a little bit. At least try to pretend things are normal here for five minutes. I wrote today. I think Brady I think Kim leaving the Patriots is i. Don't want to over blow it and say it's a it's a significant hit for CBS. But I think it's a legitimate hit When I went in and did a little research. They're all the top games from two thousand nineteen where Patriot Games in the in. The top. Four. I think Even if he stays with the AFC. I think it's the totality of the Patriots as villains which means you need Brady and ballot check sorta. Together you could even put craft in their Brady. Goes to the chargers okay. Cbs can say they'll get a little uptick. They're in charge games. But it's not gonna be what I think it is with the Patriots. And then the flip side. Obviously as if he goes to the bucks which is rumored at a big big big Feather in the CAP for Fox there my overstating all this not a not at all in fact a couple years ago when NFL ratings. Were going down and I was trying to look for reasons as to why the NFL ratings. Were going down ton of every single veteran TV executive said. Oh it's because Brady retired not breaks me. Manning retired and I thought that that sounded ridiculous to me. They're thirty teams. You know and and But I think that I think they were onto something and I think you know if you have. A matinee idol star quarterback that That is doing well and going to super bowls and leading esteem. People RESPOND TO THAT AND PEOPLE. Watch that and I think once once he takes take that away. It's GonNa take a while even though as a football fan. I like watching the chiefs more than the plotting a patriots. You know. It's going to take a while for the more casual fans to sort of you re rally around that that type of team. Yeah I mean listen. The chiefs are an amazing team to watch. Obviously Lamar Jackson Took things to another level but I. I would say the people listening this. Don't underestimate the need for villains and how much people watch to hate. And that's what the Patriots were and the those those two teams You know the Ravens with our Jackson and the chiefs they will grow to either people will love him or people hate him. You Know I. I'm not quite sure I actually. I am sure they're not there yet and They could get there or they might not. Who knows but it is sort of circle and I think that is going to hurt the NFL ratings. What one of the things I should have looked up when I wrote? My column was how many Tampa Bay Bucks Games Joe Buck and treatment of called in the last five years because if that if Brady ends up there they'll they'll be. They'll be in Florida a lot next next. Yeah that's sure I'm I'm pretty certain that has to be zero. I can't imagine they've called one one bucks game you know. Maybe if there was an. Afc team was their week. Maybe it's bucks a patriots or something like that or I don't know if the bucks play the cowboys they may have gotten maybe yeah There's one oh I mean. I guess this is an insane question to ask but I would assume whatever's ESPN's plans were to pursue a Monday night football booth a on hold right now. I would imagine I can't see them in a demote. Joe Torn Booger McFarland in the middle of all. This would be strange. I from what I've been gathering. Everything is pretty much on hold right now And and nobody knows when when when it's going to be restarted. And so I. I would imagine those plans you know. I think they were pretty far along with certain plans. And all it takes is a phone call like if if Peyton manning says yes then then the plan stop but I can't imagine they're going to you. A announce anything or be really pursue anything while there's so much flux in terms of their schedule and and everything else. I should have mentioned early. We'll wrap up on this note the so the NFL draft is is going to happen. It's not going to happen the way we know but ESPN NFL network is gonNA people onsite people nervous about that..
Joan Rivers: Can We Talk?
"Joan rivers career spanned nearly six decades she started with cabaret and off Broadway shows in the late fifties and then became a star of late night television hosting the tonight show and the late show with Joan rivers and eventually the daytime Joan rivers show in the nineties. She was best known for her comedic and sometimes mean-spirited interviews with celebrities on the Red Carpet John. Style was self deprecating abrasive. Everyone was fair game including herself. She charted new territory and comedy by telling stories from her own life combined with her willingness to talk about taboo subjects like hot flashes sagging bodies bad sex and marriage problems. You may have noticed that we borrowed our podcast. Name can talk from this hilarious. Talented and complex Jewish woman. Can we talk? Was Jones signature. Tagline sometime. She's it as a punchline. Sometimes it was a setup. It was an invitation to her audience. A signal that she was about to confide in them. Here's Joan on the show in the early. Nineteen Eighty S. I would not cheat. I would not cheek Maine because nobody asked me but I not because I think why we talk. I think my husband's spooner man okay. Which is very hard to save. I feel very close to you. I especially if you can. We talk was also Jones way of calling attention to her flaws and other people's her way of saying let's stop pretending and tell the truth here. Can we talk? Let me tell you something. The reason I have nothing happy the way I'm blessed is because I'm getting older at least seven very drop because Oh oh you don't know what it's like to get older too. You know what it's like to go in the morning to take facial mask and realize you're not wearing what so. Why did we borrow her? Tigon FOR OUR PODCAST. When we started the show Joan had recently died and we were all steeped in the debate about her role and her complicated legacy as brilliant and hilarious. But also crass and sometimes cruel. We love that. She had so many dimensions and that she believed in telling the truth about women's lives and expanding the range of models. We see all things we knew we wanted to do to. We also liked that. Can we talk was an invitation to our audience to join us in this project of storytelling and with that. Here's a wonderful interview from J W as archive recorded in two thousand six for our documentary. Jewish women in comedy making trouble. Joan talks about her early days at the Chicago. Comedy Clubs Second City being a woman on Johnny Carson's tonight show and playing midwestern clubs as New York Jewish comic later in the interview. She talks about going back to work after her husband's suicide in nineteen eighty seven. She starts by telling Interviewer Rachel. Talbot about a fight. She had with her parents over her decision to go into comedy. I left my house in pedal pushes enter old car that I used to drive and went to New York in speaking of the year and it was just awful and my dad wrote me a letter say that we are going to You'd better come home or we're going to have you committed. I was living in the bars on hotel for women and my dad wanted says and pulled me out. It was a scene. I think they ever forgot dragged me out. It was just horrible scene Harles. They just thought I was really life as though question about it. They just couldn't accept that. This is where I was going to end. This is all I could do so the I went back home and then I went away. Yeah it was just awful and then Pity yes that was great. Second City was very competitive. It was six of US thrown on stage. And it was make up your own lines and get your own scenes going and everybody wanted to be the star second city and everybody wants to get their stuff and so it wasn't like being gracious. It was like I got a better idea I wanted. It was very competitive and that was great too. I learnt in second city. You have to talk up and I learnt the freedom of you. Think it's funny try it. Don't wait don't think about it. I still do that if freed me. It taught me to be tough. It taught me to fight. If you thought you're Si was good you went into four four and a taught me co with your instinct. Only do what you truly think is going to be funny. It changed my life and then you you came back to New York Nissan. You learn so much from second cities are how had your comic persona change came. When I came back with second city I was myself onstage. Good bed or different. I was what I was and I was a divorced when no Jewish smart college graduate not particularly attractive girl on stage and I was telling you about my life. It wasn't about my mother-in-law was about what I'm going through my mother's hysterical because I'm single and I'm having an affair with a married man and my gay friends. What happen to my gay friends and it was all about truth. The first routine that really worked. I had a WIG hairpieces. I was driving into New York to perform at this club. And the WIG flew out of the window and a car drove over it and I said there I was walking on the west side highway. With a dead Wigan my arms had says firestone on and no one stops and all the truth and taking the truth and exaggerated and it just opened me up. I never went back. I never went back to. He's so fat that unless I really believe when did you find out Johnny Carson? Nothing in my career. I think that's why I was that you log come easily ever. I've never been the first on anything all my friends. And that time I was working the village with my George Carlin and Richard. Pryor all these wonderful men everybody got through everybody was on Carson and on Griffin and I was brought up seven different times to the Carson show. I was finally rejected by Secretary. Who is eating lunch while I was performing? I mean beyond humiliating. I got on because the night before some comic bom so they called me up and they said you can come on but not as a comedian. They had no faith in me. They brought me on as a girl writer and at the end of the show at the end of that night on air. Johnny Carson said to me you're going to be a star it was maisy and I look behind me. I couldn't believe and the next day. My life change changed overnight. They were getting all these calls and stuff. Was there ever a feeling of like? Oh you're to New York reports. I was doing costume regularly. I don't think it was hosting really I was you know the Golden Girl Carson and the ages come back and say you to New York to Jewish you to New York and my husband was married by that point. Ed You said this is ridiculous. He said picked the worst city in the country. And they said Milwaukee they still have been meetings. This is nine hundred seventy. There's still enclaves. They dress up Nazi uniforms and saw Adolf stand. He said center Milwaukee. And let's see and they sent me to Milwaukee and I was. They had to change the size of the room and put in the ballroom. Our I put originally in a little hotel the pfister in their little comedy room and they had to over the ball and put me in so that changed everything they said. Okay America will get her. I mean people begin to put little pockets and it's so stupid because funny is funny. You're minutes was using back on state. What was that decision? The decision was very simple. One I know money I had to go back to work. I didn't have the luxury of being the widow in the house on the hill so I had to go back to and nobody wanted me and Vegas gave me back my contracts. 'cause isn't nobody wants to see anybody that has that kind of you would just fired. would terrible glistening one out that. I was very hard to work with It was just all wrong all wrong. I was banned from late night. I've never been brought back ever not one late night show So I was really struggling my career and I had all these bills. Listen was in. It was just a bad time so I went back to little nightclubs. I said well I'll start again. I went back and started doing little like us and out of that came the red carpet
How coronavirus may slow the internet
"Well more and more companies telling workers to work from home if they can Tuesday Google advised all of its North American workers not just workers in San Francisco and Seattle that all North American workers to work from home until at least April tenth. Fortune reported that about twenty. Nine percent of the workforce could work from home in other words. The bus driver can't work from home has to be on the bus. That kind of thing but twenty nine percent of the. Us workforce could work from home. That's about forty two million people and to that schools either shutting down or going to remote classes means a lot more students of all ages college students as well possibly working from home if they're not in the dorms for instance. That's a lot more people on home. Internet then your. Isp is used to especially during the day. At and T. And Verizon told fortune that the fiber optic cable that provides the. Isp's back haul should be fine. The volume of traffic isn't expected to change too much. They'll be more video conferencing and such but they expect that the pattern of change will be the bigger problem. The traffic will be coming from homes. Not Offices one network insider told a lot of packets will go in odd directions with odd routes and people won't be able to address issues quickly enough it won't break but get ready for a ride This is a some people who live in snow areas no on snow days. Suddenly the Internet does and always work is consistently. Because everybody's trying to use it at the same time. Imagine that on nationwide levels. The chokepoints are lower bandwidth cable and copper wire services your corporate network trying to handle all that increased. Vpn traffic also companies need to find out workers at home have sufficient bandwidth and be prepared to invest in things like mobile hotspots and temporarily maybe subsidizing increasing their data plans. Of course your home Wifi network. You're not a Wifi. Six in most cases You don't have that increased capacity of suddenly all. The students are home your home. Everybody's working from home. You're overloading that WIFI network. Because more devices are using it at once as I mentioned video already estimated to be about seventy percent of network traffic already. And we're GONNA have more video conferences so that puts a little more strain on the system and don't forget apps themselves. The Internet society notes that individual tools need to provision sufficient compute storage and bandwidth resources to deal with increased users. Yes zoom wants everybody to use zoom for the video conferencing but zoom better. Make sure that they've got enough bandwith and cloud resources to handle that. They have but any kind of APP you're using from home. We'll need to prepare for that. We have a test case. China has gone through this by streaming service and educational options application called sway. Si-tong popular office applications including video conferencing applications Ding talk and we chat work online games from tencent. All reportedly crashed at one time or another due to all the increased traffic of people using them from home.
Jason Lemkin Clip: Why now is the best time to start a SaaS company
"A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to chat with former founder. Active venture capitalists and driving force behind. Sastre Jason Lincoln. Jason Zoster a community for Sassan cloud founders also organized the annual Sastre Conference in San Jose. That now attracts five figures. Were the folks each year. We spoke with Jason before the novel. Corona virus had evaded containment efforts affecting domestic markets after upending their counterparts abroad the current community since dacians forced Jason Deport. Sastre back a bit. But that doesn't mean that our chat with him any less timely in our forty five minute conversation we covered a ton of stuff from the potential for cloud slow down to how founders should use or not use venture debt to Jason's outlook on SAS consolidation. And even half asked. He's writing checks today. We're sharing one of our favorite clips here. The rest is over on techcrunch for excellence subscribers we're GONNA get into VC's lately that have been talking about the beginning of cloud. Slow down and I I. This is a very specific thing. What they mean is cloud is no longer an upstart phenomenon. Saas LONGER NASCENT. We've now seen a large percentage of the inner voice software world move over to SAS and nine means that the growth rate will descend as the actual aggregate basis larger and critically. They think that this might lead to income and squeezing out startups from certain spaces in the Saas market. That might have been attractive before. And this is from Alex over at scale venture partners recently and I thought it was interesting hypothesis. I don't see why wouldn't be correct. But I want to get your take on. I know your cloud optimist. You've always been a believer in my experience. So when you think about the maturing of this ass market does that leave less space for starts in as you look at the the overall landscape. Well let's see. I think there are two different points. I have two different perspectives. If you look at data from Gartner which is imperfect. But at least we haven't you. Can you can say that. Maybe thirty percent of old school on Prem type software has gone to SAS thirty percent so the pollen of user seventy percent left but the flipside is. That's a lot of market penetration right. It actually starts approach forty fifty percent. You should see a slowdown this secular trend into SAS. When when even when you started doing sas certainly when I started doing it was risky. It was quirky. It was weird. It was it disliked. It was it was not trust about two thousand sixteen through about Twenty Sixteen. Maybe even a little later at the first astronaut. Aaron Levy came one week after the box roadshow and asked him what the public markets. He said they're starting to learn about it. They're starting to get comfortable in two thousand fifteen. That's that's only twenty five years ago so we are so that thirty percent was probably eight percent right and so there is so there's so so there's a the good news is seventy percent left. The the risk is like you know there's only so much of this crazy growth and another thing happened. Which if you look at any Gartner or whatever this and this no one anticipated more of. It went we all knew there would be a substitution that of however you define it a trillion three and there's different metrics how much infrastructure include. We all knew that like the old the old on Prem Safra would go to sas we didn't realize that it would. It would take up thirty to forty percent more of those. It budget so they used to so we got an extra boost. People are spending more on software. No no one from scale no one from anybody realized we would spend more on business software because of SAS but has physical limits. It budgets are only be so much of global two thousand budget so these Amazing Trans created many many Saas companies. Doing a billionaire are billionaire are but but they're gonNA hit headwinds there. There's no question those headwinds that's different from whether that's going to box out startups. By the first half of the apotheosis there is going to be a slow down as we just forty fifty percents over the next five years. Yes there has to be and as we stop putting more and more of our fixed. It budget into SAS. These are two great trends and they will reach saturation. Got It okay. Now on certain point and and being boxed out using more skeptic I think this is the best time to start a startup time. Tell me why because all the SAS leaders are billion. Two BILLION COMING UP ON A billionaire. Zenda shop is the hub spots. They don't have taught they don't have time so if you're a billionaire and they're all growing like a weed growing thirty forty percents shop advice. Going fifty percents off. But they're all growing. They're all growing with a few exceptions. They're all growing north of twenty percent. All the leaders true. So let's imagine you're in a building air which now they're like twenty of these companies. How much do you have to add this year? Two hundred even three hundred. Maybe a lot you're thinking about non-organic time to compete with your little startup. That was just on tech crunch. You know ten years ago. Five Years Twenty fifteen. When when Aaron came from box Aaron would see a startup. Doing five millionaire. Get a little worried. I mean not literally worried but they. Hey this may disrupt me. Is that right Stewart. Butterfield doesn't have time he's GonNa read it. He's all over social media. He's an incredible founder but slack doesn't have time going to a billionaire to worry about someone that did five million has got to worry about. Microsoft has gotta worry big guy so that means you have a lot of air cover to get not just to a million before your competed with by maybe one hundred million owes underneath the. We'll just ignore you because they have to focus they have to hold it and adobe turning around now and everyone from fig on down is competing aggressively with them. But why because they're stupid of course not? They're very smart. Sap there they were busy. It's too small. It was too small right and there's too much growth in creative cloud creative cloud fuel the dobies text market cap growth. So they just. It's not that they don't watch what's happening with web flow and figment everyone. It's just too small until it's nine figures in revenue because figure has become materialists. I don't know how they're all super successful and it's not because anyone was dumb. It's just because you can't compete when they were small you just can't. You're too big. You're they've grown too quickly so it sounds like instead of this problem. It's actually there's there's more freedom because become now too busy to kind of mess with you get up to ten fifteen twenty million a are before they even begin the guns on your ship and because cloud got so big. These niches got big. Every niche. That used to be a millionaire NECC- now can be one hundred million Monday dot Com. Where you're talking about who we needed another project. Management for Non Tech folks that went from one hundred twenty million in four years. But that's a that's a piece like ten years ago. That would be a two million dollar business going to two hundred million so let's whole years one hundred times bigger. This little niche that Monday found and they're going to do a billionaire art. So let's talk about Vertical Saas. Jump ahead my question because this is what I wanted to get. Borough Ready It seems like you're thinking about Vertical Saas than isn't that this is GonNa be constricting idea but inside these these these takes on like the dentist industry or whatever and building software for those could be enormous because the niches have gotten larger to your points. I presume your a bowl on vertical sats. I've always been a ball. I would say even more simply. Look at any company to billionaire. Look at his desk job. Okay which is already two billion. That means they're gonNA keep growing. That means they're going to get to five or ten billion. My rough math is there's another billion vertical version of that so there's another billionaire could be more and that means there could be ten UNICORNS. One hundred million ten verticalised desks right And doesn't even have time to meet with them right. I Investment Company gorgeous which is like a vendetta ECOMMERCE. They're almost all on shop. Affi- it's very niche right. They're gonNA be growing three. X Ten million error. Is that tune it? People thought this company was to NICCI twelve. Apparently it's not nine. Three hundred percent honest has an offering it as a great product but all they do is make sure your fulfillment from instagram to shipping. That your contact center works magically. Which is good enough. Note is enough. It is enough to build a three hundred million Arab business. But it's just a niche today. That's so big because cloud is look how shoplifting. Today seventy million dollars in two thousand fifteen it was worth eight hundred million so these niches have grown astronomically and that means these vertical SAS things. We've like gorgeous and others. You turn around. And how could we do be a unicorn? Well it wasn't four or five years ago right when I met I met the founders only twice twenty fifteen. They were great but it wasn't clear it could be as big today but cloud. Gubbay point about Zen desk in there being room for ten unicorns underneath the desk at one hundred air. The implications vertical sights will still generally smaller companies than the original broader. Sass play so to me even smaller than salesforce. That's an example I don't Viva is a Pharma. Sierra Viva is the most successful verticals ass company so the CTO salesforce left salesforce a decade ago founded VIVA. It only raised three million dollars from emergence plus. It's now worth twenty billion dollars. Today he was also in my class. Like everyone did better than me in my bye-bye on the show but you should just get out. We should bring Peter Gassner. He's like a hundred times would have been me and vivas was twenty something billion and then how to products and he. He said look sales versus a great horizontal play I WanNa do Pharma and there. There is a legacy vendor in the space and it's big. It's a big space and all their deals are seven figure eight figure deals. But it's still. It's still a thirty billion dollar company and salesforce is one hundred fifty billion so I can't think of a vertical SAS that is bigger than its horizontal play but it may well it may well exist but thirty billion still outcomes. You're at three million dollar investment. Even if they are smaller by definition you know there's going to be enormous your general point about the client it's up it's becoming growing the high antigone larger piece of the overall. Everyone seems to be very hot. Verticals ask these days. So that's why I wanted to ask because they like it because the cloud got bigger and because competition is simpler the amount of domain expertise you have to do to build a viva is. It's rich compounds on itself and there aren't going to be twenty startups out of y Si. They're going to build that. But but and so there are these verticals because finally they realized they can be three hundred air business and then they can actually millionaire and they realized look it actually works. I can like I. Invested in in a SAS company just for environmental compliance called map history right. They disclosed their first. One million dollar deal okay. They have like no competition not in the whole space but in what they do they can have a few bumps and they can get through it. They have time they have times. There's not ten other players in the exact same thing. We've guys may disagree. But they had like one or two competitors and their original competitor was I think. Ms Dos based in offices. So you have time and so like this because you just. You're you're overwhelmed with the competition. You're overwhelmed with everyone. Wanted to take on snowflake and data dog and and there are many great apm companies. But it's exhausting. How do you know what's the next day doc?
"si" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"I worked at the Washington Post for almost a decade and everything that meant from the grounding I got from the phenomenal editors George Salomon to working when I was I was twenty one years old. And there was Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser and Christine Brennan and Thomas Boswell an and Jubair and those are the people I went to work and saw every day and they're just legends in the Journalism Sports Journalism Business So so being able to learn. Have that grounding in really doing things that were always me about doing things. The Right Way Being a beat reporter which by the way I hated and do when I got out of journalism school because I was like I want to raise future. I WANNA do projects I WANNA know. Whatever and I had very smart people older than me. Who Said Kid you know? Go learn covering a beat is lake so you can know how to develop relationships over the course of a year where you have to both the liver and cover the tough stories. Ask the hard questions but also be able to come back the next day and be responsible for what you say and right so that you can feel that even if it's something someone didn't like you were fair and and that way you can sort of face them the next day and that's an important part of what I do right now also. I learned to write on deadline. I was a hockey writer at the Washington Post. They started out you write a deadline story where the score is one zero. That's running that you have to file as soon as the game ends before you can get any quotes and by the way. Can you give me twenty inches on that You definitely learn to do things quickly and in a different way and that really helped me to with the writing. I do every day on the show right and some of it is as I said breaking news and I'm writing in the commercial breaks or I'm writing up until the last second because to me. That's just that's just daily practice. Because I did it for years interviewing something sort of big picture stuff is something. I did insert later jobs When I was working for. Espn making that transition to television. There's a lot of how do I bring my writing skills to TV? Which is something that is a big part of the job may be more so than some of the other shows Eddie. Espn it was covering the big picture league stuff like the NBA. The NFL the weekly Games. That I did to the NFL. Where I would do start for sports center and I was just talking about this with some of our producers the other day You know they were years. I was based out of New York where there'd be big football games right and it would be a giants cowboys game. Jimmy remember giants. Cowboys was a big matchup. Right I do. I do comparing it to the Knicks. Though the giants cowboys is still a big deal in New York. I'll say all right so anyway but yeah so I'd be stationed out a giants for a week. Right and Edward or would be stationed a cowboys for a week. And we'd spend a week finally daily stories to sportscenter about like. Oh here's the Eli manning versus the cowboys. Db's matchup for something. Like that. And then it would just be this. You know sort of built this blockbuster. Game on Sunday now in those examples. Fox's getting the rating bright for that game but we're talking about how we can kind of use the jump to build some of the storylines that will go into our Saturday night games right something like that. So little bit is like building these storylines of the NBA and my experience in that coming in When I left. Espn to go to Turner and CNN. my own show on CNN and CNN obviously is not as heavy a sports network in fact obviously news network had Topic specific shows so Sanjay Gupta had health show and I I had a sports show and crossfire was sort of the more heavy politics. Show as opposed to just news information and stuff like that There's an entertainment show that like that But it was still trying to deliver that to a CNN. So during that time it was a lot of. Hey can you translate this issue to give it the larger context in society? What is this really about right? What does it mean? What sort of the larger conversation going on here whether it's something as straightforward as the bring rice relation which is obviously about domestic violence and kind of how we treat women and children and laws and and who to believe in and all of that in our society to You know things that were simpler sort of more fun raid on Sports. Is this big tent. We all gather in not. Everybody watches the same movies anymore the same TV shows but sports we a lot of US watch the same. Sporting events took wait praise to have all these conversations. We do that on the jump on the sideline reporter TNT and got to be part of those broadcasts around the inside the NBA guys and sometimes jump on that show or sometimes jump in host on NBA TV and a very different perspective than ESPN Da much looser right. Show show ethos that. They subscribed raid. They have less tight to the rundown about discussion More about letting things just sort of go in crazy directions. Obviously if you have Shaquille O'Neal Charles Berkeley you have to subscribe. But it was definitely education for me right and then also you know the value of big personalities and and getting to sort of really take people inside where it was like for those players and people and all of those different things for all of those different years. I mean I've been covering the am one way or another two decades. I've had nearly every job there is to have bring the NBA We get to do now on the jump and it Kinda makes us Nimble enough that You know when the when the Dallas Mavericks situation went down and I had spent months sort of talking on and off the Mark Cuban about doing an interview I was ready to do that interview and I got the report. I think. Two hours before the Interview so it was really just and it was a I. I don't have a number in front of me but it was dozens and dozens of pages of legal stuff to go through And again that kind of went back to my hard news. Journalism background of highlighting circling. And all of that and being able to on the fly over the course of an hour to me really felt like a parse a lot of the stuff that was going on in that with Mark Cuban and made it in an interview that Soak into me. Because I had some of the women in The Dallas Mavericks Organization. Come back to the afterward and honestly of all the people of all the reactions that was one of the most meaningful because they just said. Hey you ask the questions. We've been trying to ask for years and so being able to do that was great. Also being able to show all about the most disrespectful dunks of all time is awesome and feeds into my sense of humor and things that I wanna do and stuff that I really encourage the staff. We have goofy photoshop. We have all of that stuff to me is what's so much fun about sports and fun about the NBA. You mentioned being distracted by from Corona virus and Super Tuesday. People are looking for that. I'm looking for that so I'm weren't that stuff in there too. So the fact that we've been able to dislike crazy stew is a very long answer to your short question but I do consider myself a little bit of everything in the show a little bit of everything and it's a fun way to sort of put a bow on all the stuff that I spent years.
New York: Ribbons Warn SI Drivers of Upcoming Speed Cameras
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"si" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"The last three years had a pretty good profile nationally But yeah there should be a bump there. There's no question about it but again I I. I don't think it's worth what the sport is going through it. But you know you walk into a ballpark now and you know if somebody has a big game you know. The casual fan is going to joke. That Dolly must have a buzzer issue. Or you know a buzzer underneath this jersey. It's reminds me the steroid era I've seen so many parallels to the steroid era that when anybody who have a good year back in the late nineties early two thousands while it must be because of whatever pharmaceutical product he was using. And that's not good for the game. I get drawing generating interest but not all native interests is is worth. Yeah Let me move on from the Are we going to get this new playoff format you think with the go from five teams to seven for each league Best records by and then what I think would be the sport and I love the idea of the The live Selection show. Yeah we're going to get that you think. Yeah I'm glad you brought that up because that was a really big idea and have you heard about it really very little about it because the Houston situations crazy because that is a huge fundamental change. I think we're going to get it and here's why the TV partners like it will be absolutely likes it the players you when you get them down. You know really admitting it they like it too. Why wouldn't they? You're talking about more players with a chance to be in the postseason. You're talking about more teams being competitive now right and that's been the big beef and I don't blame them the last few years if you couldn't win ninety games or say eighty eight games. There was no sense of you going out trying to make your team better to get there if you were seventy five win team but now if you can get into the post season as an eighty four win team and that be the average number of wins for a number seven seed you. It's hard to sell your fans that you can't compete now right that made you gotta go buy some players in the offseason. You've got to try to improve. That's good for players as well And the money. That's going to come in from the networks is going to filter down the player so players get more money more postseason appearances more teams competing teams or players get postseason bonuses to as well if you know that's part of it as well so. I think this is something now where the timing is right and will be has shopped at least the idea of this format to their television partners and once you want to get in and they have found a very robust market television's going to love this all adds and you know the media landscape right now is still in a destructive state stage in terms of where we're going streaming Baseball leverage the whole disruption of the Regional sports networks. The cable money is just tremendous. That has settled down wants. This wave settled down here with streaming and over the top services. I don't know what's On the other side baseball. Does it no? That's why I'm saying the timing now is right to make this commitment and to make the commitment. I think you have to say to the players we need to extend the CBA because if I'm a TV partner and you're telling me you're CBA runs out in two years. Why am I signing onto by these postseason products? I don't even know if those games are going to be played guarantee me they'll be played extended. Cba and national right you the check for the extra postseason and it's interesting. You brought up the selection show. That seems to be something. A lot of people are divided on. I don't I don't see the downside to that. I think there really is no downside. Because if you want to call it a gimmick you can go ahead and call it a gimmick but you know what people like gimmicks right Gimmicks help sell your sport the alternative is you just see them by their win. Total straight cut and dried. There's no drama. Last year we had. We would have a show where Brian cashman would walk into a studio and he'd be on the clock to pick from among who he wanted to play in the first round the Indians. The rays and the red sox all week long. You're talking about that pick. I'd pick the red sox. Are you crazy the Yankees? Don't WANNA play the Red Sox of the seven seed? But they're the red sox just think about all that and that will carry into the series whoever they pick that's why TV. Networks love it. That's why you and I would tune in to watch absolutely so I don't have a problem with hosting it works. I think it's a pretty cool idea. I like the fact the biggest thing for me is it brings more teams and play. Yes but think about what it does for September right number one. See you got to buy the first route so you know playing out the schedule is really important number. Two seed you get to pick your first pick who you play among five six and seven in the first round same then the three gets the second the difference between a four and a five seed you either have. All the first round at home are all on the road. That's the difference between four and five. That's huge and of course seven or eight seven year in the playoffs eight. You go home so almost every game. You're playing in September now. Really really matters. I went back and looked at an average game. In September. Last year September fifteenth just took a random date fifteen games only three games involve two teams that were in the playoff hunt. Head to head right. This is too many games. Don't matter in the second half of the season but especially in September. Now you're juicing up September a little bit. I love the idea. That's Lexi Joe too because baseball doesn't have until the postseason pretty much. They have the All Star game but they don't have that one night that one you know that one hour wherever it is whether you know everyone's GonNa could. It's become so localized but that show will be a national audience for that show and you're going bring in. I think a lot of people knowing I would say is you know sometimes. Mlb they do a little they do some stuff with scheduling that avoid any NFL. Don't go with anything related to the NFL doing on anytime. There's no football game and you will get big ratings for that selection Xi. Yeah well they would do it. The Games On the last day of the season all star at the same time which is great ideas. Typically three o'clock so say seven o'clock on a Sunday night but they go they just good audience. You just you just hit on really the key for baseball. In the old days we always loved the grind of the season. The marathon of the season baseball is this like reliable buddy. Who With you every day? That does not sell in a very competitive sports landscape now. What sells is events and baseball understands this. In the course of such a long season you have to carve out things that are live events that people want to watch and there's not many on the calendar the All Star game is certainly one of those. They'd done a great job playing games very unusual venues this year. It's going to be field of dreams. That's an event play. A game in London is an event having a selection show on September on Sunday in September or October. That's an event that's not on the calendar so you're creating revenue but you're also creating an event and that's what people want. Tv will love it. Like you said the word. It's funny I wrote about this the day that I think the post broke the story about this proposal and I was surprised because when I wrote about in my column I was all for this and I was surprised that the blowback how about how many people were against it. And you use the word Gimmick. Yes it's a gimmick but every sport has gimmicks every the Gimmick it's been around forty years like you said that playing games in London the plane into the field of dreams. Why would this you know? Why would this be any different? I think this election show and you know you. You use the example. Brian Cashman going to make his pick there. You could spice that up. I have it you know if I if you want to make it a real. Tv production look void come in with his biceps and his ripped shirt off. And I mean there are ways to make this a really interesting selection show. Yeah absolutely mind having some Hollywood quality. I mean you have to make it entertaining as well. Right so I think I used to go through this with bud sealing the old commissioner a lot where he would complain when what you just said about baseball comes up with an idea and it was held to a higher standard than the NFL the NFL changes rules literally. Every year. The players on the field. Don't know that what's a catch. We still don't know right. Nobody cares they the NFL. Everyone and I would tell but that's a good thing for your sport. People really care that much about the game that when you begin to touch it in any small way people get up in arms about it so that means they care but at the same time I think baseball as you said it's changed a lot anyway more than people really think and the first reaction is always with baseball is changing. What are you doing? You're watering down the play offs. Well people want more playoffs and they haven't expanded playoffs in a long time. Baseball can't win because it's like you just said people don't want change. They get very mad about anything that you know the tradition of the game but then it seems like the narrative for baseball's always you know before this astros thing happened. It's always you know baseball's only peeling older people had is baseball get younger. Does baseball have a marketing problem? Now to me this idea especially with the idea of the selection jomie teams. That helps the marketing problem. So that you can't have you can't complain that it's a Gimmick and then complain this marketing issues but MLB. Yeah and you're right. That's been a big complaint. That baseball doesn't mark it. Stars teams enough and this is certainly something that would definitely generate interest. So Listen I think the more people think about it. There's really not a downside to it if you're a super traditionalist. I guess you would say and I've heard this. You know that number seven seed might have a losing record which is true. You know if you did the numbers over the last eight years out of one hundred hundred twelve teams. Only four of them would made the playoffs with a losing record. Some people say I don't want any in but think about what seven seat has to do. They have to win two three on the road just to get out of the first round against the better team right and then they don't have the road advantage or a home field advantage and the next two rat. Only people really is really hard took it? Yeah so listen. The cardinals won the world. Series with eighty-three wins. Not Too long ago right if the if the seven seat on average eighty four. It's not that drastic a change. Yeah I'm GonNa pee on this body. I don't know if you'll have answers at the top you had if you don't that's fine but if we're talking about the marketing of baseball is it to you. 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"si" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Show today if you're a baseball fan. We have Tom Verduci from SL. And it'll be network and Fox in studio with me. Cover a lot of ground in thirty minutes. Houston Astros Baseball's marketing issues. How To fix the game the playoff format that's been proposed Unbelievable insight from Tom Obviously as good as it gets best in the business in covering baseball and He was phenomenal. If you're a baseball fan I guarantee you will enjoy this podcast if you missed last week. Show we had Mitchell Schwartz from the Kansas City. Chiefs offense of Lyman discussing the chiefs Super Bowl Ron and also Mitchell's love of foods. Big Foodie and Also had a couple of colleagues in here to do low roundtable. Net flicks is Don't F with cats which was a great documentary so also Danner Lachey from. Espn was on a couple of weeks. Ago Bryan Curtis of the Ringer Kevin. Harlan Brent. Musburger Chris Long. So if you missed any of those go into the archives and check it out and If I could beg for a moment if you're not a subscriber hit the subscribe. Button helps me tremendously so Throw the subscribe on their good guests. Come up next week. I don't want to plug it but because things happen but supposed to have a good ESPN NBA person next week. I that is all I have to tell you now to get things rolling. Let's now go to a great conversation with Tom. Verduci this episode of the media podcast sponsored by Roman. Talking about erectile dysfunction is an easy usually we just brush it off or blame ourselves saying things like I lost my mo Jo or. We avoided altogether with excuses. Like I had a long day at work. Or sorry honey..
Pardons Granted by President Donald Trump
"But as I pointed out it was a pardon frenzy yesterday that was all the talk all the rage across the national airwaves and of course local airwaves as to president trump and his decision to pardon and or commute sentences for a lot of prominent people in some not so proud and we want your thoughts as well to hear on the phone line seven oh two two five seven five three nine six as we discuss the president and his decision to pardon these die and grant clemency on Tuesday to eleven people who serve prison sentences for crimes in high profile cases ranging from gaming fraud and tax evasion to drug related charges now trump who has a broad clemency powers granted by the constitution we understand this right grand full pardons our full legal forgiveness for a crime to seven people commuted and shorten the sentences of four others now obviously presents seven party people for years and we acknowledge that we understand that and occasionally there's been situations where presidents across the board at pardon people that are controversial right that are you take a look at you said you now I don't necessarily think that was the right thing to do wasn't it I don't understand why you decided pardon this person over it over another and the eight calls into question credibility of the individual but with Donald Trump it it is interesting take a look at the individuals that he has decided to partner can either sense and of course when you talk about high profile maybe nobody more high profile than rob boy it bubble ball go eight H. and this obviously rob luggage was a prominent politician in Illinois for a for a number of years Abbas the governor of Illinois and there is this perception out there of politics in that state and it's not a good one okay it's a it's a it's a reputation that corruption runs wild that it's the wild wild west even though its Illinois in the Midwest and that are you that is you know more so maybe than any other state in the country it has a bad reputation so the fact that the president would decide on robin we'll go live H. to be one of the people pardon I I think is a prize is a lot of people now to give you the details basically rob all I get is it is a formula governor sort of forty eight was serving a fourteen year presents for federal charges that uses powers as governor to extract campaign money and other favors for potential contenders for the Illinois Senate seat that was left open by president Obama when when he be actually took office now troubles previously asserted that but boy that should Democrat who appeared as a guest on the president's program he's not slip your prince was treated very very unfairly there's a there's a running theme here with president trump is it's when when he discusses the reasoning behind these pardons it always is these people around you know these people have suffered these people are you know they're getting railroaded they've been wronged as people at by the way the convicted felons okay this isn't it a pity party for people that are you know serving hard time for crimes a day they had been convicted of committing all right so you've got blue eyes itch you also have obviously high profile a person in Bernard Kerik he's the former police commissioner in New York a lot of this remember him as a really one of the prominent people along with governor jewelery she's the mayor Giuliani in New York City during nine eleven he was the New York City police commissioner who was very lauded for his response the nine eleven attacks rightly so in my opinion apparently but unfortunately for him he was sent to four years in prison after he pleaded guilty to felony charges of tax fraud and lying to White House officials while being interviewed to head the department of homeland security he served three years in federal prison before his release in two thousand thirteen there's also another I'm not a number of other prominent people that have been pardon we talk about Eduardo junior form on the same school forty Niners a lot of people in sports obviously no he is he was fined one million as part of the gambling fraud case in Louisiana like nineties you got Michael Milken a rope funny it's here talked about as the junk bond king pleaded guilty in nineteen ninety to several counts of securities in tax violations an announcement of his pardon the White House described him as one of America's greatest financiers and credit is work fighting prostate cancer I'm you also have our you'll free lawyer he's a founder and chief executive officer ET understands that there's kind of a pattern going on here free learner will you know was the CEO of an Arlington Virginia based software company pleaded guilty in two thousand fourteen serve two months in prison for conspiring to hack into your computer system the two competitors yeah Paul Paul pope who is a the owner of a Texas construction company plead guilty and sense of three years in prison in two thousand ten for filing a false federal tax return and there's there's David survey Safavian Viet Safavian's give me and a I enjoy stand also who has been part enlisting was an author Dr a reality TV star served time in prison for her part in a stolen car ring and I so I don't I guess you would characterize Angela Stanton necessarily as a white collar criminal but does she is now a trump supporter advocate for criminal justice reform and the goddaughter of Martin Luther king junior's politically conservative niece L. B. two K. and she spoke also at the two thousand eighteen women for trump conference and frankly post pro trump messages or Twitter account so there is a there's kind of running pattern here when it comes to these Florio pardons that the president has decided to engage and the funny thing would be white collar crime for the most part right and criminals who have been convicted of crimes obviously nonviolent crimes they are not talking about you know serial rapist here not talking about mass murderers by any stretch but there is a there's kind of a running theme here as JT shop judges your lives to and I don't think I'm online G. by pointing this out that well it is very very it's very intriguing to say the least right that the president of the United States is decided to pardon these types of individuals in any of these individuals spend time in el Chapo cell in NC si I would suspect not I think that does want one of those the the person you're talking about I'm to my glove not is getting a raw deal on that with that situation six does not at least I don't I don't expect they did have to deal with that with with that type of
Gary Russell Jr. dominates Tugstsogt Nyambayar, retains WBC featherweight title
"Gary Russell. You know with an interesting figure. Because he's extremely talented fighter. We saw he scored a nice win against You know king tug in the mandatory fight that took place last week Everybody looks Gary. Russell has a great talent and a in a in a worthy competitor against any of these guys but he has said that he can't get the big fight now. If you can't get the big fight you take the next biggest one you can get and go out there and make seven figures every time you get in the ring for whatever guarantees are. He has decided not to do that. He wants to Fight Leo Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz findings. Your Monty Davis. Obviously that is not going to be therefore if you look down the list of guys at one twenty six or even at one thirty you know for him that our makeable that are going to be interesting to the public. There's not a lot there. He says he'd go up to one thirty five if necessary You know if there's no Leo Santa Cruz Fight. Against Tank Davis. I'll tell you a huge that at least in part of the country I live in the you know the the Washington DC Maryland. Virginia area is tank against Gary Russell. I mean one guy's from Washington and One guy from Baltimore they'd fill up any of the arenas in either city but again that's probably alongside so Gary Russell. He's kind of like a man without a country right now. He's he's got talent he's got a title he can really fight And he just doesn't have the top guy to fight against unfortunately so he's Kinda off to the side and you know he's only been fighting once a year I I would hope he would be able to find another before the end of this year if he does. I just really couldn't tell you who it's going to be against her. What kind of level? It's going to be one twenty six or one thirty Gary Russell. I think would be a threat either. Spotty Caesar's really
Boxing news: Andy Ruiz Jr reportedly considering Teddy Atlas as new trainer, famously strict coach who worked
"News broken last twenty four hours about who has parted ways with trainer manny robots before we get to anything else let's let's just talk about that for a second many robe liz takes eddie ruis to one of the biggest upsets in heavyweight boxing history just like seven or eight months months ago and now he eats his way out of contention to win the rematch way overweight doesn't pay attention to many robots and now many rogue as is is out i mean what do you make of any releases decision there well it's always the trainer's fault right i mean it's never the fighters fault that's the way boxing history as for the most part but manny rojas is a very good trainer he was very honest both before and after the fight and said hey look we warned him as we move closer to the fight get it together your weight is too high you know let's really start training take this more seriously let's go let's go let's go and and released did what he did and came in fifteen fifteen pounds heavier than he did for the first fight and we all know what happened thereafter so i it's i'm not surprised because it's the trainer is almost always the fall guy for for fighter losing i haven't heard specifically what andy where we said about parting ways with his trainer i don't know if he was unhappy about the criticism that manny robe liz offered after the fight but he was being honest and and and and we welcome that as as reporters i of course chris right we wanna hear guys tell us the truth not sugar coat everything and i i think manny was honest about it and but i think he'd light you know he likes andy and and and and clearly did a great job with him a pulled off one of the biggest upsets sets in boxing history and last june so it'd be interesting to see which direction he goes in for his next trainer but i mean this is on him