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Unraveling r/VXjunkies: A satiric parody like never before
"Hello Planet Earth and. Welcome to the red disrespected Akeso. Today we are going to talk about one of the most peculiar awesome Brennan's the peak might interest are slash. VX Junkies so the name of their a page or rather the pedal of their some Brennan when you open it. It's called science made Delta over the past day. It's honesty captivated me when it was linked in a post in believe he F- about a solid drive made of sardines. That is a whole other story on its own. So we enter into the sub reddit and bone burdened with something that seems to be techno babble but what are they even talking about. Is it a real thing and we hate to show you that. There are multiple explanations over at it so I we have tread on out of the blue asking about it. Which got an answer? That it's a big injury. Stemming from a SCI FI parody script by bud hugger called called turbo an Cabbie later which aims to parody nonsense math and physics that comes up in every sci fi film. It was applauded by Dave Rhonda on Youtube with one point. Five million views. According to the video description haggard used to be in the reiter for Pekka edible in sci fi in the late seventies and he often wouldn't understand the scripts given to him by directors. So he wrote a parody script in recorded a video seemingly talking about something conflicts except that the diagram individual is an old car transmission. Don't highly doubt this explanation. As the reference seems rather obscure like who what are the odds that someone is read it in has also watched that certain vigil from the late seventies even if it was for uploaded onto youtube onto the second explanation in a trend in E. L. I.. Five which means explain like I'm five. Were people ask for simple explanations for complex things. The banana king committed seven years ago. It's a joke. Someone posted a troll. Ultra once on ask granite announcing that they nearly broken the world record for Techno Babble with their techno the Bible in the number of other editors got the joke offering apparently fictional advice tips stories in rants about about their own experiences with techno babble a lot of people slightly slower on the uptake got massively confused in abandoned explanations which they got invest extremely technical in utterly fictional. VPO with several major arguments breaking out concerning the best way to to techno babble. It's just sort of took off from there into its own submitted it another comment by less. CRT In the same tread says looks like fictions lesch setter in similar vein to the SAP foundation people. Creating fictional works around shared seem seem leading to a print the awesome collaborative project and honestly. This is a very plausible explanation that I have not found the escort at dread because million Degussa ESTA comments. Show is like years ago probably got archive somewhere so much best buy is just these comments. Believable that's how many new Brad. Let's start on Reddit anyways because and run if anyone can create their own community and so any there'll be any up shoot communities from random reasons sins and it's always really funny to see how each subordinate gets bored. I've witnessed a few birth of red. But none of the relief flourished swell so do they even cow but anyway this is the more believable. Wants although there's even another explanation again. Expounded on by Lizzie Artie. Were in this case. It's a mechanism of intentionally vogue purpose. The people can pitch them sensible but domestically medically consistent questions in ends four. Though I actually this is an expansion of his comparison with the foundation and now that we got a serious Sirius satellite explanations. Let's go to this joke. One committed by teaming twenty tree in the vehicle junkies so Brennan he says the SEWRI. There have been a lot of trolls recently. Ed recommend you check out the sticky posts to get some basic information about the X.. To answer your question. Yes the axis of real traveling industry in both commercial. Industrial sectors ended his Old damaged credit in her mind acknowledgee. Unfortunately a lot of people have been making birds. Don't make sense in an effort to show off new a user's hope you stick around awhile and learn more about our happy slash career slash bashing smelly fees. He also says that he that the presidential feel free to ask questions. Let the happy to help other users are as well known as the snake. A look at some of the weird posts. It's on the sub certain it was reversed. Okay now let s take a look at some of the weird posts on the sub a notable one when you saw my heart is Gordon. Freeman's teases the observation of instant petoskey Rosen entitlement on super quantum winsome structures but election troop non-linear turns uranium nick crystal AF- extremely long wavelengths e. l. w. pulse else for mold locks source airy guys. Tell me if you understood any of that I know added. Here's some more intense insulin. Nothing's ruins a good Thursday night of working on the rig like hyper zero dicing. Some platonic nanotubes. IZAAC was one point. Five Live race attempting to power seven and the sub translucent x y graph it spits out and some looking like this. There was like a picture. Picture of ADS would look like Lawrence Collider. It's like a chaos theory thing in mathematics. It does not make sense for your guards in this context. Nothing Sucks Martin Manually. Liberating the flu. Blahnik nanotubes up to try Yoni Carmody am I right. Are you know one if any donate the ninety. Okay so okay what is our main takeaway from all of these investigation that they've been doing for like holy for me. My takeaway was that this is a Weird Station of satire culture plus Parodying of the mainstream thing which is Techno babble in Saifi and in even in other genres I see Tekla bobble Even a different one called Magic Bible though that's different kind kind of thing where they make rules of magic and all that and so. This is a message station of Parody Saffir in a way that in a wait up you've never seen before it's like a skeleton sub read it. It's like these people just go into some Knowing immediately would joke s this and then they expound on it even arguing about it like. I've seen posing that suburb. Where people are arguing about supersonic waves or whatever and and it can get intense even if the joke? It's easily the most intense joke I've ever seen. It's it's beyond beyond a simple joke and it's more into satire that is stemming from certain cultural things that we see like techno babble in TV shows and movies and honestly this is a public thing. I kinda feel anyway. 'cause I studied mathematics and so if so techno babble for me something it makes makes no sense like At a hope I hope everyone watching this has seen endgame. Because I'm about to say spoiler if not you can skip right ahead head to the end but if you did not skip. The one I'm talking about is the Tony Stark talking about agin. Victors and August Strips with respect to time travel as weird as a shade will strip is. It's a simple shave can get by twisting twisting a strip of vapor one hundred eighty degrees in Egan Victor simply away to multiply a matrix vector without stretch without up repatriation. Like the victories stretches. So the the angle between the vector in the X axis stasis ain't a whole by those Junkies right now. But you know what I mean. This is undergraduates. This but you can google for yourself that egging vectors are the team were. The vector is like the same direction but a different magnitude. That's literally all it is. It has nothing to do with time travel so do anyone with remote look knowledge of that which is a bunch of people from Earth Physics Engineering. I can think of others as maybe some doctors and the thing is it's it sells Swedish. Who Excellent simply parodying? This sort of thing that just allowed to fair honestly. It's much better to make words or other Use concepts of connections to it like general relativity that has more to do with time travel than Atkins vectors. So let's that's pretty much it for a mini movie critics. Well I mean so. That's been shared for this day and the I hope I see you tomorrow again. Does we have some more fun to talk about every day in the schedule of daily upholding the only really change. 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Our Top Ten Strangest
"So you're about to enter into a new world of knowledge. Curiosities and high strangeness. This is a podcast of straight up. Strange productions welcome to that strange where we dive deep into the internet. Uncovering anything we think is weird strange controversial for makes you think i'm one of your host alex alongside chat and ryan exciting news to tell you that strange is officially joined straight up strange productions. You can find them on straight up strange dot com very soon or right now you can check them out on twitter at strange pods over the chad chad with news chad with the news. So today we have a special for. Is we sit down and discuss our top. Ten strangest things that we've ever found on the internet we have compiled a list of some of the most bizarre stories that we have come across so before we get too far into the episode. We just wanna throw out that you can check out all of our links on that strange dot net including all of our social media and everything else if you do follow us over on twitter you'll see us retweeting a lot of things from the straight up strange network and i can guarantee if you like our show you'll find some pretty amazing shows over there that are right right up your alley so definitely thank. You guys should check that out and hope that you'll find some more shows to listen to and continue to interact with us over there over to ryan with what's new auto racing in europe so my favorite f one racer f. One is like my second favorite sport of all time. Thanks ryan that was great post. Can he just he just tied the all time record for the most podium finishes the he tied the record for the For the most grand air like grand championship wins like major championship. Wins for the season Just this past sunday and he is now in the top of all time f one racers which is actually really cool and i'm very very happy for him and it's really awesome to see. So that's i think in an announcement was good alex. Do you wanna talk about the merch real quick or no actually We yeah why don't you. Why don't you go head and hop on the outline and talk about the merge. I wrote a nice little paragraph for. Don't read it. just read it. Alex takes over plugging our merchandise shirts. Bumperstickers blankets replicas of kinsey sunglasses airpod cases. That looked like a mouse chewed on it. Plus plus ryan's that works off. I would soup. I was super salty. Because i just changed it to replicas of kenzees nose spray bottles. You read it so quick. Check all right. Let's get to this top ten list star on up to move stray inch all right. Let's do it. The russian sleep experiment. Just so i before i get started here on this one. Have you guys read this. I'm reading it right now. Full disclosure is specifically. Came into this with some of these. That i don't know about this is one of them. So it's a story that tells the tale of five tests subjects being exposed to an experimental sleep inhibiting stimulant in a soviet era scientific experiment. The story recounts an experiment set in the nineteen forties and soviet test facility the military sanctioned experiments. He's five political prisoners. They're kept in a sealed gas chamber and gas chamber pumping in a airborne stimulant that is continually administered to them in order to keep this subjects awake for thirty consecutive days so the prisoners were falsely. Promised that they would be set free from the prison. If they completed the experiment i came across this like probably like five years ago at this point and i read this completely blind so i think that's how this thing is best experienced But it's a creepy pasta debunked. Which is a fictional fictional story. However the mind that came up with it. Yeah that's creepy. That's not yet right. So i think that when i read this i didn't even know what a creepy pasta was. So i read this on like like it might have been like a facebook post about this wild experiment that the russians did back in world war two and i was like oh my goodness this is horrifying and then really towards the end of the story. You kinda get a bigger chunk of the fictional part of it because it kind of gets a little bizarre but like reading through it. I was like oh my goodness this is crazy so the reason i put at the number ten spot is for that reason exactly because it's fake and but i definitely think it's a fantastic read. I think it's really well written and if you go into it not knowing that it's fake think it makes a little bit bigger of an impact on you then if you go into it knowing that it's fake. That's just my personal opinion. I guess i think it's also good as a fictional. read them for something to enjoy. And i believe we'll have In the blog post i would assume that have linked to be just so people can read them. Yes fantastic so we'll make that happen. So what what our opinions on on this on. The russian sleep experiment this besides the fact that it's not real honestly. I think that anything like this is pretty cool. I mean obviously. And i may have made this referenced before but a lot of the stolen you know some of the stuff that we talk about is not real. It's just like really weird so but that's all some might say it's strange some may say that strange but the point is is that you go to watch movies in the theater or at least used to before everybody had to stay in their house and all that but anyway You watch movies either fictional. because they're fun because there's something to think about it kind of makes you think that it's real whether it's whether it is or not and i think that's cool that's still makes this cool to me you know. There's a lot of people out there. There'd be like not to go to go to number nine. Go it stopped number nine. I'm i'm done unsubscribe. But it's it's like you know still cool. I still think it's pretty sweet. Oh that's pretty cool I gotcha lifetime and honestly what isn't straight to streaming. Now you know. It's not the theaters Sweet all right. Let's move on to number nine on the top. Strategist all right. So let's talk about number nine bond skinny so bond skinny was a tiktok user. That would post. She initially started a post in just kind of random videos and it went to these Dancing videos and stuff. So if you're not familiar. Tiktok is literally a social platform that is meant for younger adults and teenagers where they just danced to songs. And that's what it is. It's us so made these dancing videos in a very strange and unusual mask. It started off a strange but it got to the point where people were on Different social media platforms. They were on it talking about the fact that there are a lot of odd things that were going on in the background and the environments that she was in that really made these videos even weirder and animal suspicious in a way so this mass that she would wear Said i like sweets on top of it and it was almost like a clown mask. It was a female mask and and this woman was issue. This girl nobody really knows the age or what. She looked like or anything other than the fact that she was a girl who dressed up in this mask and she was in a dilapidated home video for instance. She said That she was in this room and the room that she was in she lived in. This was her room and there were other people that live there but she said that they don't come into my room and i don't leave this room and they said that she also said they don't even know that i'm here though. The voice that she talked in was very It almost sounded like somebody that may have had a a developmental disability or something like that so a lot of people were were concerned that this girl was being put in a neglectful situation. So a lotta people started looking into it and it got to the point where it kind of Reached a level of this. Isn't we're not sure if this is a joke anymore. We're not sure you know. Most people really thought she was mentally ill and it's got to the point where people couldn't couldn't get around that fact either way it's definitely something that's strange. It's number nine for a reason because this is another one of those things that's like is it. Real is not and is it really that because you know there's people out there like a teenage girl trying to be different and trying to express herself in kind of an unusual way but by the way that is number nine bond skinny. If you wanna look it up it is one is bond skinny and as soon as you google it or or whatever. It's all over the place but you have to find all of the videos that were referring to in archives and on youtube they make tons of people have covered it so but that is that guy's got any opinions thoughts on bond skinny. I think that This stuff just seems to be happening more and more with like the proliferation of things like tiktok and instagram stories and etcetera etcetera. So i think that it's kinda it's kind of funny how how often the stuff you know. It just keeps going. It's weird but yeah. I definitely remember reading about this at some point and i didn't. I don't think. I remember the name. But i remember the visual since i google i think that regardless of whether or not this girl was was you know held hostage or trapped or whatever in this room and whether or not. She had a diagnosed mental illness. There's still some sort of mental unbalanced going on if if your first thought when you create a tick tock as a teenage girl is to dress up in a deformed clown mask and another thing that i wanted to mention is a lot of people thought that maybe even if she wasn't Mentally ill that she had a facial deformity and that was one reason why she wanted to wear this mask. And just like. I said just kinda something that if it sounds interesting look into it. I know that. When i looked into it the first time i binged it because it's just it was incredibly interesting to me. Yeah yeah i think that yeah. I think it's definitely cool. And just the fact that all the internet has come up with all these different theories about it when it could just be a teenage girl just making videos clown mask on right. I think that's the cool. I think that's the cool part of it. Is that you know. They're not sure if she has a facial deformity or if she's mentally disabled or if she stuck in a room somewhere. I think it's cool. That the kind of branching off from these video. Yeah people give the internet's internet a cookie in once. Once i was just gonna say yeah elsa cooking. Sorry okay you give the internet a cookie and it wants to take your head and it needs a glass of milk number eight number eight. I believe chad. Sep foundation do you want to introduce so. The sap foundation is a fictional organization. First off it's like a. It's a wikipedia. That compiles a bunch of fictional stories and really weird stuff that is about this. Scp foundation and the foundation is responsible for locating and containing individuals entities locations objects that defined natural law so the sap foundation. Wicky four of these special containment procedures and they're basically show whatever this quote. Sap in question and then how to contain it and how to take care of it and how do all this this crazy stuff. So i really really really got into this about a year ago. Two years ago. As i've said on the show many times before i get on kicks. Okay just an alex's kind of the same way get on kicks and i just like consume everything that has to do with my kick okay and the and kids are normally perpetrated by a video game or a movie or show that i'm watching at the time so if i'm let's say playing a video game about world war two. I consume every world war two book movie. Tv show everything. I won't go out of that until i'm out of the world war two kick just to give you guys on my brain works. It's kinda screwed up. So i came across this after i started playing a game. Called control in control is heavily heavily inspired by the sap foundation. So i had looked up like movies. Books tv shows that are similar to control and got the typical like x. Files twin peaks. And then this sap foundation came up and normally out of everything on my kicks books and like stuff that i have to read is at the bottom of the list. Because i'd rather just like watch a movie. But this thing sucked me in big time. And and i think it was just because the game you're essentially at a place called the bureau of control. That is exactly the sap foundation. They find these crazy objects and they try to contain them in. You know investigate them and do research on them and it's super bowl and it was just a super thing that it was the perfect combination with the game. So did you guys. Have you guys ever read any of this stuff before. Yes no. I have not no. It's definitely it's definitely cool. I mean it's not it's not everybody's cup of tea. I would say because you know it's a lot of reading in. It's a lot of like official looking documents. And you know. I don't know i just got super into it. And it. And it's really the main purposes for for the innate got a little bit of comedy behind it to and some of 'em depends on who you're reading. Some of them are a little bit more serious. Some of them are a little bit. Maybe not intended to be comedic but they are so that is why i put it on the list. Just because out of everything. That i've found on the internet. I would probably say that i've spent the most time going through this week. A pedia outside of like maybe like a star wars wikipedia which is like a black hole that you'll find yourself in six hours later not knowing what happened to your life. That's very true. I've actually done that one before the start right. it's just like you just. This is the same kind of thing you just like. Click link to link to link to link and you just read and read and read and read and read and it's super. I dunno i loved it. I don't know that had. I never played control if i wouldn't have been into it. Probably not but. Because i did. That's why it made my list or delist. Rather can i read one of these. You go forth and anwr quick. Slender man was part of the sap foundation correct. I thought i had remembered reading that. I think it was put in here. I don't think it was originally on here. But i could be wrong on that. Okay i could. I could totally be wrong on that. Maybe that was initially started. But i don't remember that being where it started on our now the origination was a creepy pasta yet. Yeah that's a Yeah i think. He's in here somewhere though. I'd because i came across them i have to read it. I i mean. I'd have to go through all of them type in search so so here i'll read The log of unexplained locations which immediately caught my eye because It's funny i. I totally just talked about bond skinny but i was supposed to talk about randa. Yeah right i mean it was it was it was my fault so but anyway So this this one's twenty so unexplained location you e. dash nine four one seven one two description a sphere five meters in radius all humans who are caught in the sphere spontaneously vocalise in english. Boy i wish i had a nice cold pepsi right now. Regardless of native language or knowledge of the pepsi brand have envied. There's like. I said there's some of them on here. That are very comedic in kind of. It's kind of acts as like a pallet cleanser through some of the more serious ones. You know what. I mean once you get to a a one. That's funny you're like that's pretty light. So specific yeah yeah. They are very unexplained location. You e. dash eight six seven. Nine to zero is described as a treehouse behind an abandoned house. The words s c p clubhouse are carved into the wood insider three boxes. The first box is labeled one zero six. A gi joes action figure cruelly painted black is contained inside. The second box is labeled six eight to the skeletal remains of a lizard are contained inside. The third box is labeled nine nine nine. A single cup of orange jello is contained inside despite the possible containment breach this poses. Nothing about the location is anomalous number. Seven the nibiru cataclysm. Yes this is another one that. I'm pretty sure that you guys have heard of before. And at least in some capacity is that a false statement never in my life. But really you never okay. How about planet x nothing okay. Well so the. I'm gonna call it planet x. Because i have such a hard time saying to be rou- or how reset it's a internet theory of a supposed disastrous encounter between earth. Any large planetary. Sometimes the collision is a near miss. sometimes groups. think it's gonna hit directly and it's supposed to take place sometimes sometime in the twenty first century and it started in nineteen ninety five when nancy lighter. I hope i'm saying her name right. Claim to have gotten a message from terrestrial that warn of the impending danger of the rogue planet and this theory actually became. I know why you zita routine i got. Well actually stay. Tuned put a pin in that for later. Because there's actually i have another. I have another thing on my list. So yes she these. This message supposedly came from ridiculous. Gray's however you want to name him but the theory actually became pretty closely associated with the twenty twelve apocalypse phenomenon. Which i'm sure everybody has heard of. But it was one of the proposed theories and the theory. The theory is basically. There's a rogue planet that nasa has purposely covering up that has gone through various stages of popularity since its arrival when it started in nineteen ninety five. So it's like sometimes it's not very popular twenty twelve. It was very very popular that seemed to be one of the higher ways that the world was gonna end back then and then the most recent is a christian. And i'm going to put this in quotes because i've never heard this. Before christian numerology just in two thousand seventeen revived the theory citing various passages from the bible. So this is another one of those like internet theories that gains traction by a lot of fake confirmation quote confirmations by nasa where you see like me on facebook says nasa confirms the existence of planet axe. And yada yada yada in. It's one of those things where people don't go in and research. You know what. I mean they just take it for what it is like. Oh my gosh they really. They finally said that it's coming so there's a lot of. There's a lot to dive into here. I'll i'll share the the wikipedia page on the blog. Post and you can find yourself in there for hours or minutes depending on your interest level on this one i think and i think that this is like a a gina of thing that makes me makes me laugh so often. It's like the people predicting the end of world. And they're like oh it will happen in twenty twelve. Oh it'll happen in two thousand like. Oh oh misread it. Yeah i was just slightly off. It might be a couple more years. I guess yeah. I think i think this one for me. I like it so much just because of the space aspect of it. Everybody knows me knows. I'm obsessed with space and everything that has to do with it. So i think that it's personal space especially personal space for sure. Yes right right. So i think that i don't know i just enjoyed reading it again. Another thing on the list. I don't personally believe is true. But it's definitely the theories that people come up with in the way that nasa's hiding them all this different stuff just like the bond skinny thing. I take one thing and then they turn it into this huge conspiracy and i i. I don't want to say. I respect that but i kind of you know. I like reading about him. Chad can we do a whole episode on the different theories of the possible end of the universe. Like oh for sure like the ones that are actually scientific and have like basis. I think that'd be sure. Yeah i definitely. I definitely enjoy that stuff. That would be a fun episode for sure. Have you guys ever heard of a christian numerology. Though i've heard of christians and i've heard of numerology i have not heard them combined. No yeah. I can't say that i have either number six projects urpo. So let's go ahead and remove that pin ryan that i had told you to put an earlier got project. Serpico is in alleged top secret exchange program between the united states and an alien planet called serbo in the zeta particularly star system. Now i actually came across this. And i don't know if you guys probably have not heard of this. I know alex at least says some slight knowledge of it because he shared the actual article. That kind of made me lose my mind. A little bit high yes It was on our group called that strange on facebook. You can join in. I actually believe it's like one of easy to find because it's literally like one of the first posts on there that's true. Was this article in this article. So let me give it a little bit background if you're just now joining that strange. We've talked about zeta ridiculous. Multiple times on the show one of them being the bob lazar episode in which he stated that he read a document that the alien aircraft that he was working on came from zeta ridiculously and then there was an abduction story. Bonnie and somebody hill. I can't remember you remember. What betty and barney hill betty. And he'll there you go day. She also pinpointed zeta ridiculously during a hypnosis session. So when i read this. I absolutely went crazy because now. Here's another story of these. These things from zeta zeta me as weird. Because there's no known exo planets around the star system and i don't know if this is just like the most common theory in the alien community or all. These stories are untied in their all. Penang's eight I have no idea but so the most common version of the story tells of the alien that survived the crash near roswell in the late nineteen forties which we've all heard about the crash in roswell. The alien was detained by the american military and was treated kindly. Obviously it was able to contact its home planet and eventually returned to its home planet. The story continues by claiming this began a relationship between the american government and the quote grays on this planet. The final claim is a story that twelve american military personnel were sent to the from nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy eight and all the members had since died because they were quote affected by the high radiation levels of the by binary star system. We've talked about this before. Zeta particular binary star system which basically means to stars really close to each other. So one member of this group died of pulmonary. Embolism and route to stir pro. Which is the planet on. The nine months journey eleven arrived safely one died on the planet and both his body and the one that died in route were returned to earth and then two members of the twelve man team decided to stay on the planet denying return back to earth and then you know i had already told you how i came across this but just instantly as soon as a red zeta reticulation. It instantly caught my attention. And there's a lot on the story and there's a lot supposed leaks and people that came out to declaim that it was real and everything i probably feel like we could honestly do an entire episode on us. But it's another thing chad. Let me to say really how. How else can i say it. I feel like we could. I wasn't a later date ads. I just love how you flake taglines. I have these like. I like. i'll be talking about this new water bottle. I got and honestly i feel like we could do an entire season on this. Yeah i mean to be fair. Sometimes they say sometimes. I do say i don't know if we can do an entire episode on this track. You are correct. So did you ever hear about this ryan. I know alex shared the article so he at least baseline knowledge of it. I had heard of like i had heard it kind of ran like tangentially. Because after our episode on bob lazar i remember going and reading a little bit. More about zeta particularly so. I think i came across it but i have not dived into into this area of things nearly as much as you have. So it's like a cursory knowledge barely. Right right yeah. It's definitely again like everything else that we've talked about on this list. It's an interesting read. You take it for what it is. There's you know they're supposed to whistleblowers. So it's i don't know. I think that maybe i go two ways on this. I go either. the community. Really just leans on zeta ridiculous being where these aliens or from. And that's why everything asked to do was eight originally or these stories are totally unrelated. And they keep pinning ridiculous. I think that barney and betty hill story is bizarre. Because the way that she pinpointed zeta you can't see with the naked eye unless you're in the southern hemisphere and it's on a super dark knight and she pinned it the way that they've found out that she pins ridiculously was from zeta ridiculous. Looking at our star system. So that to me was super bizarre. I don't know there's just walk bazaar stuff about it. And i just absolutely love reading anything about it. You know. it's definitely super interesting. And i think that there's a lot of like random stories that kinda circulate around it kind of makes you wonder how much how much there is to actually take away from it as real you know right definitely. Yeah and that's That's how i kind of lean maybe a little bit more on that side. Maybe like a arlene on that side. More with the story specifically but that that like i said earlier that barney and betty hill thing i think is just crazy that she pinpointed it that way. So that is definitely show definitely shows that she had some prior knowledge on it for sure at least right right. Yeah and it's yeah. I mean it's not like you know that happened in the sixties. So it's not like she could have got on the internet and looked up a star map and scrolled over to data. Reticulation looked at what the stars looked like from there. So i think it's i think it's bizarre moving onto number five This is something that i found actually relatively recently And it's just very disturbing terrifying kind of odd unsettling but it's called. Don't hug me. I'm scared First of all Have you guys heard of this before. I know i know alex yes. I have a baseline knowledge of it though. Okay well it's it's definitely weird. So what this is is a musical horror comedy web series created by british filmmakers becky. Sloan and joseph pelling other six episodes total iran from twenty eleven. Actually the july. Twenty ninth twenty eleven to june nineteen twenty sixteen so quite a long time for six episodes and it actually ran on you youtube video all the typical ones but the crazy thing about this is the way that the show starts. It starts like a typical. I don't know children's comedy thing like a like a children's show like almost like sesame street actually would probably be exactly exactly what i think it looked so it starts that way in. It doesn't start. E i don't know it doesn't like ease you into it very well like it starts kind of context range it's kind of there's a long tailed off silence and three puppets or well to puppets and a person in a suit are sitting around a table and they're basically sitting there total silence which is kind of weird But then it just kind of kicks into this whole thing. This whole like like a song where they're teaching stuff and they're going through everything and it's all about being like imaginative and creative. And the whole first song is about thinking creatively but very quickly takes turn to a very dark place and it turns into it. Turns from puppets singing a song about being creative. It turns from that into them creating very very strange things at one point. There is a open heart being covered in glitter. There's a lot of stuff happening. There's a cake that gets cut open with entrails inside it is very disturbing And then you get to the end and it kind of it kind of just finishes with the thing that was singing about being creative saying hey. Let's let's not be creative anymore. Because that was that was unsettling the weird part about the story is that this was originally intended to only be that one episode. It was not intended to be six. So they what they were trying to do was a commentary on people thinking that they could teach creativity which i find very interesting but because of the way that this actually took off they d. They ended up doing five more episodes which continue the narrative. They continue with lessons each time. But there's kind of a building sense of dread up to the end in it is very disturbing at points And i would even call it. I would actually call it a psychological horror. And i would never look at the set i and think. Oh that's a psychological horror thing but it it very much feels that way especially towards the end. It's very disturbing but yeah what do you guys think of this. This particular series is something. That and i'll just use chad's tag. This is something that in general i've wanted to do a series on becau- or an episode at least is is the fact that it develops fan theories and i think fan theories are so interesting i don't know if you looked into the fan theories behind it but there's a lot of people that have really developed these really doron out in deep Theories saying that these characters like for instance the creative one his names red and that red is like the creative side and then Yellow is of his inner child. That wants to have fun. All the time and the green is is like his depression and his negativity and stuff like that and then it just goes. You know just kind of goes off on that. There's actually a whole sub. Reddit called fan theories and and there's one there's this thing in there that are opposed that talks about. Don't hug me. i'm scared. and i. i love this show. I've seen all six probably seen it multiples arms but But yeah i. I've always loved stuff like this so on. I definitely looked into these theories. to in. there's there's the theory that the one that i thought was the most interesting was the theory that red is actually an adult wishing that he was still a child and everything about this is just like basically a fever dream. And there's like this whole thing about that without trying to ruin the rest of the series. Because i think everyone should watch it at least once to try it. It definitely kind of lends itself to that. If you believe that theory there are others. But i think that's the one i found myself kind of agreeing with the most at the end. I don't know But what do you. What do you think yeah. I think it's a. I think it's a cool concept to put these kinds of sesame street characters into psychological horror. I don't know that like you said. I don't know if that was their original plan. Because i i would imagine just by the way you're describing the first episode that they at least had planned for that episode. Be like that. But i like anything. That has a deep fan theory thing to read about. And i think that almost everything that i've ever enjoyed in life has fan theories to it so I think that can go kind of two ways though because like my favorite show of all time. Game of thrones. In game of thrones had a very deep fan theory like community. I guess is the best way to put it but in a way it kind of ruined the show for me because i got so wrapped up in these fan theories in the end. It didn't really pan out to be any of them so sometimes the fan theories can be far deeper than the intended story that they're telling which i think is super corn. It's it's so cool to me that people come up with these theories and they're just people on the internet. They're not like writers. They're not i mean maybe they are. Maybe they're not. But i love love stuff with fan theories so i definitely wanna check this one out. I have not watched. I think i watched the first episode. Like a really long time ago. I don't know when this came out. When did this come out Two thousand and eleven k. It might have been also. Have you heard of the the the channel four show. The channel four series now thinks. Oh oh okay. Wow we need to. You guys need to get on that. So there's a an entire series called channel four our topic. Yeah but i was just so you know that they are planning an entire season around. Don't hug me. i'm scared so it's apparently coming back. Oh which is pretty wild but channels zero. Just really quickly is an entire tv series based around creepy pastas. Oh no that's so that's trouble for me. Every season is a different creepy pasta. It's crazy that's trouble for alex. And i we both love greepeace. Positis dude. you have to start. You have to watch it. It's it's amazing you will love it. Yeah yeah i'm gonna definitely check it out. I think that that fever dream thing is kind of a cool theory because it's it sounds like this could maybe be like a fever dream or are you saying. That's like a fever. Dream kid is having the theory. Is that the red guy which is the only like person in the scenes typically is a person a big red suit with like a with like a crazy head dress mask wig thing on that you can't see their face. It's all in their head So without getting all the way to the last episode and like kind of the reveal at the very very end. That's all i'll say about that. But that's the theory. That i i found the most compelling. I think that theory on this is kind of cool because it's like a you know the kids watching sesame street and he's having these wild fever dreams. Yeah this is cool to me. I'm definitely gonna check it out for sure because like i said i have very little knowledge on it. All right number four So this is another one. That i threw in here. This is a salad fingers. Which is something that. I've been aware of probably since close to the beginning of it which was in july two thousand five So this is a flash animation web series created by david. I it originally was on new ground switch. If you've if you don't know about new grounds i don't blame you It's old The cartoon revolves around this character named salad fingers which is a thin green mentally troubled. Mutated man Who inhabits the most mostly desolate world. that's directly from a kapadia. Because i couldn't have put it better. Most of the talking nations come from salad fingers he sarai. He'd kinda interacts with everything around him. Engages in dialogue with himself There are a number of episodes here but it's basically him just kind of inhabiting this world and dealing with everything around him. The reason it's really creepy is because the things that happened in it are just very strange. There are corpses. He interacts with the corpse of his brother who he thought was away at war and literally is talking to a decaying thing about his time at war and then brings him into the house. There's a point where salad fingers actually kills a young child by putting them in an oven and it's all literally just based on this character's inability to interact with the world around him in a way. That actually is realistic or logical. It's it's very strange and my wife has texting me. That i should end this with the feeling of rust against my salad fingers. You know if you know that phrase then you know what. I what i'm talking about otherwise you should definitely watch the show it is. It is a very strange thing Have you guys heard of this. I know it's been around for a long time. I know alex has 'cause new grounds. I knew about your reaction but chad. What do you think quick. Have you heard. I definitely heard about it. I don't know that. I have ever watched the whole thing altogether. But i've definitely seen videos on it and the and it seems like i'm glad he pointed out the russ thing is that like a thing. He does all the time. Because it seems like everything i ever seen. He's he's rubbing his fingers on some sort of rust. I think that's the most quoted thing he times he set a lot so that that's like basically the majority of what i've seen. Is that kind of stuff. And it's super weird. It did come out and it did come out a long time ago. I think right like yet started. Because i feel like it was i was like in middle school when it came out or maybe early high school. Like maybe three or four or something. I don't know it started in two thousand five. I introduced the topic with that fact or my best so there is a little bit of confusion on it though. I will say the original release date. That's listed is july fourth two thousand four but The actual date that it was said to have been started was july two thousand five so i don't know which is actually true and the thing about new grounds and stuff like that is stuff would kind of cycle in and out so it's possible that like the first episode went up in two thousand four got pulled down and went up with a new episode in two thousand five. Who knows but Definitely definitely older now. I mean fifteen years ago. That's pretty right. I just for whatever reason remembered something like that after. I had watched it last night. Something like that from middle school but may be thinking something different but yeah. I think it's super cool. I think that that it's it's almost haunting. I guess is the best way for me to put it. It's kind of like the. Don't hug me thing like it's it's riding an animated show but it's really creepy and i think that there's a reason that two of the three things i picked here are our video related and you know this kind of creepy like these existential crises video things like our like you can take in so many different ways. But they're effectively horror in black comedy round right. Yeah these are just the things that that are very very interesting to me. I would have to agree with that as well as well. Yes all right so alex. Do you have anything to throw in about seven fingers. Just that now. I wanna re-watch it because it brings back nostalgia i remember sitting in my parents Like our back room like our family room where we had our computer and i would literally have the lights off and just watching salad fingers all night until probably like two in the morning just because i couldn't sleep and that was like literally when you said whatever he says like the feeling of rust against my fingers or something. I like the feeling of ross against my salad. fingers is almost dot up. yes i i like it. It's good stuff. It's a good one. And actually my wife and i when we were first dating we would sit in her Like the basement of her home She had her computer. And we would watch things like you know home star runner and salad lawyers and and all that stuff that existed back then so it was definitely something that we were that we were definitely young taking part in while we were dating like very very early on which is is kind of funny to think about what another one that since we're like on this topic was Happy animal front. What was it happy. I know what you're talking about an. I can't think of it happy. Happy animal friends or something Happy tree friends hatchery. You're talking about. Yeah that's that's that's like the same thing. I'm pretty sure that was a new grounds as well. I think you're right on that. Yeah pretty sure. I used to love manu alley. Just reminded me of another Do you remember the muffin video. The hey johnny. Yes gillette stadium glass. Bits of glass muffin. Yeah how 'bout symphonies yeah. It was the same guy. Did you know it was the same guy. Yeah of course. Yeah until until we were was looking at my list. I had no idea it was the same guy. Almost put both his whole channel in my list action. What do you want for breakfast journey. Fire so good. It was so ridiculous and so forth. I oh man we. We should do something about it. For real episode planning within episodes. We do this a lot. we should do an entire thing around like those early like internet videos like the flash videos that early like i'll viral stuff a really cool idea kind of month. Remember that i don't s- fifty five fish their fish v day. You didn't know about all. I thought we were friends. I probably saw it. Oh man it's been about the how about the guy that was high on acid trapped in the closet. That was the that was the theory back. Then but that's not really what it what it was it was and now might share now my chair now my problem. That's what i always say. Anyway oh my gosh. We need to move on number. Three one is sweet. So number stations. This is actually a pretty crazy thing and full disclosure. I think reply all did an episode about this now horribly. Maybe in the last couple of years but i had heard about it a little bit before then. Basically this is a shortwave radio station. usually broadcasts formatted numbers. They believe that was tied to some level of intelligence officers operating in foreign countries. Most of the identified stations use speech synthesis to vocalized numbers. And there was. There was a little bit of belief that some of these transmissions were actually intended to kind of scramble You know communication for the other side in some of these some of these wars and different things. That happened possibly the most. I don't know the most recognized. One is called the lincolnshire. Poacher which these stations were. Transmitting are still transmitting. Some of their some of these some of these different like recordings and setups even years after. They should have been decommissioned. And they were still being. Able to found on shortwave radios On ham radios still able to actually be heard Which is weird Considering that usually these things are decommissioned after wars but they were they. Were still going the thing that brought us to my memory. And i'll be interested to hear what you guys think about this pretty pretty shortly here. there's a new show on amazon called trump's seekers that has the two guys from shaun of the dead and all that on nick frost and simon. Pegg fantastic nick. Frost is actually like a paranormal investigator in the first episode lincolnshire poacher plays a huge role. Actually i think the first and second episode There's a lot about the lincolnshire poacher and there about number stations and it's just very interesting and it made me remember all of this. It's kind of a kind of a wild thing. Kind of unsettling imagine going through radiation than suddenly hearing something so creepy as this really lo fi random voice telling you numbers Broken up by basically like a digital synthesis digital version of a song that you're probably pretty pretty aware of which is just very strange. Yeah i think. I think this is really cool because i i like reading a lot of cold war stuff and this i think a lot of this. They thought was cold. War so I don't know this is really cool to me. That i didn't act. I have never actually heard this. But i did a lot of reading on it last night or actually whenever you sent over your list because it was the most intriguing for me and i. I really think it's super cool. I don't know why it's i don't know it's like one of those things. The unknown you know what i mean. We don't know what it is and it does. This have like any kind of fan theory thing behind it. Like a page has a bunch of theories on it or if there is one. I'm not aware of it off. Okay yeah yeah definitely I think it's super cool. I dunno alex. Have you ever heard of this. Yeah i believe they talked about it. A lot on Coast to coast with art bell and it also brings up the. I think it was ninety. Seven point three. That had all the sudden. It was like this station. had malfunction or so they claimed and there was a bunch of really unsettling speech that took over the radio station. Did you guys hear about that ever. Oh yeah yeah. I know what you're talking about i actually. I actually think i might be thinking of. I think you showed me the radio thing where the guy calls in about a the plans with the aliens or whatever and then the radio station goes down to you. Remember that alan and that was a that was a call in On the art on coast to coast. Am with our bill. Okay that was proven actually the unfortunately that was actually proven to be fake Yeah yeah but still. It's still cool to to listen to because it's you know i think wasn't it like a day tie it to somebody that had like a mental disability or something i think so but the guy claimed to work at area fifty one in that he was being tracked by the by the secret service and stuff like that and like everybody was out to get him and and it was all a proven to be false. I'm curious did. I'm curious in that theory there. If the gradient station falsely claimed to have go to go down or that was perpetrated by whoever was doing it. i don't know. I don't know about that part of it. I don't know if if they had anything to do with it or if it was just a a strange coincidence i would think maybe that it was all tied together but as far enough into it To to send. That's the that's the coast to coast thing. That i remember so i think that might be what. I'm mixing up with this stuff. Also yeah. I think that i i was correct. It was ninety seven point three That did the. There's this article here that says That activist apparently intrudes on ninety seven. Point three cents out message. And i'm trying to read see if they find What the message said this might be a different reference. But either way cool but yeah i really. I think that all you know stuff like that is is awesome. Actually references to that in fallout. I'm a big fall of. I think you know. I think we've talked about it but They have a certain mission where you have to follow. So there's there's a radio station constantly playing In fallout you can turn it off and on but It there's different missions that that go along with their different radio stations in the game and in one certain radio station that you're able to pick up all you hear his codes and you have to basically follow that's coming from and and you know without any spoilers sisters saw stuff that you know gets tied to that but it's really cool that they tied that in the game. There's a lot of cool things that have been tied. And i was just gonna say yeah. A lot of the stuff that we talk about is is tied in. Because i think yeah he said you said mothman was and i thought there was else that was tied into it. Besides the but it's cool that they tie all that stuff in oh definitely number. Two the stanford prison experiment The stanford prison experiment was a social psychology. Study in which college students became prisoners guards in a simulated prison environment. It was funded by the. Us office of navel research and it took place at stanford university in august nineteen seventy-one the experiment was initially intended to measure the effect of role playing labeling and social expectations on the of the participants over a period of two weeks so as it ensued Essentially what happened. Was they put out an ad in In the local paper for college students who wanted to have a summer job and naturally all these college students related. I'm going to do next to nothing. You know sit in this place. And pretend i'm a prisoner and i'm gonna make fifteen bucks an hour. That's how much they were paying for this particular experiment. Which which you would think what you would think back then was probably a pretty decent amount of money you know so. They probably made out pretty pretty decent on this. Yeah definitely So before. I continue Ryan i know. She had heard of it ryan. Have you heard of this. I had heard a lot. But i had never really looked into it very deeply on this one so it is incredibly interesting and the way that i initially heard about it was there is a A movie about it on net flex. I believe it's net netflix. And south they did an amazing job on it. In fact most of the shots they took our at the exact angle that because there was actual footage that was shown That they took to document the experiment throughout the Throughout the whole of that and And you'll find out it really wasn't that long but to continue more than seventy Men responded in this advertisement and basically Advertised it as a psychological study of prison life so they went ahead and selected twenty four total people Out of this the pool of seventy that they originally got and they divided it up. Half-and-half twelve of them were to be guards and twelve of them. Were to be prisoners and during the interview they asked. Would you rather be a guard or would you rather be a prisoner. And so they kind of got it based on that but the prisoners were thinking. The people that wanted to be prisoners are thinking. I'm gonna sit. And i'm gonna do nothing for whatever eight hours a day. I don't know how long they actually got paid. I don't know if there were working hours involved like a nine to five or five to five to nine or whatever. It was but They they assume this was going to be some pretty easy money. So what eventually happened. Was they Once they were divided the guards were ordered to. They could not physically harm the prisoners. They were all issued Sunglasses that were mirrored and to prevent any eye contact. Because they didn't want to see they didn't want the prisoners to see any sense of fear or hesitance from these. You know college students are the same age. The prisoners were arrested by actual police. And then they were handed over to the experimenter's so this was kind of the initial shock value. They basically gave him the interview and they said you know we'll be in touch so then as these kids were going about their lives they would get arrested wherever they were whether they were in front of their family whether they were you know whatever they were doing it was just like real life. That was the whole point of this. It was never meant be felt as though it was an experiment so that created the realism. That really affected the experiment from the beginning so these kids were arrested. They were brought in to the To the site where the experiment would be hosted in. Essentially they were blindfolded and basically taken in and they were given The close the first thing they were they had to do was to strip naked and just like just like a real prison. Everything was the same. They did it as real as they possibly could. The only thing was the the guards could not touch them. And if i i would that the same rule exists At least you know if the guards need to defend themselves the defend themselves but in a real prison i would also imagine. That guards can't go around. Hit the the inmates site they tried to make real as possible so Before we continue. How you guys feel about this. So far ryan i know you said he kind of looked into it but Sounds pretty crazy so far right well. Here's the funny thing I didn't realize. I intentionally didn't read about a lot of things that you guys added to the list. If i didn't know about them. Because i wanted to wanted to learn more about them on the podcast and react But funny enough. I saw this movie. And i remember everything now and for some reason did not connect it and i have no idea why this is a good movie wasn't it. It's a very great. Yeah yeah yeah so chad. You have anything to add that. I haven't gone over yet or because i know. Yeah yeah. I know i. I love this this entire story. I think it's super bowl and it it the the different scientific stuff that they're trying to prove throughout it is really cool to so we've talked on the show about cognitive dissonance theory. Which is when. I remember what episode it was. But it's it's basically when someone is presented with contradictory beliefs and ideas and values. I believe gate pizza gay. Maybe that's it and so it's used to prove that theory the psychological stress that that causes that cognitive dissonance also used to show the power of authority and hot thorn theory which is basically how people react in modify their behavior and when they know they're being watched so a lot of the stuff that they try to to show and this is super bowl and the in if you have not seen the movie. It's definitely worth watching one hundred percent and it's really cool. How accurate the movie is which is what we already said like alex. Some the camera angles are exactly the same. And it's really. It's really really really cool thing. And i had never heard about this until alex pointed out to me and we watched it and i kind of became a little obsessed with it afterwards but so to kind of Just summarize this because it say it. I really recommend that you look into it especially if it already sounds interesting We're not going to give because there's a lot that you can do with your with your own research To look into that so on the so all. The prisoners had address the same in in prison attire. Essentially the same white shirt. Just just white like pajama sweatpants or something. Like that. and the and the guards had real guard uniforms. They looked like they were prison. Guards or police officers and they formed the guards who previously didn't know each other. None of these people knew each other prior. That's another detail these These guards formed an alliance and the prisoners formed an alliance so you automatically have that That dissonance between these two parties. You already have The panama city before it even starts so it was really really just built to fail from the beginning because they wanted to kind of like chad said they wanted to see how the position of power can affect somebody Just a a a normal human Somebody that acted civil prior and now they have this position of power where they can take control over a another human. And and it's it's extremely eye opening to to see so only on the second day. The prisoners had already staged a rebellion. The guard started to work out a system of rewards and punishments they They had something that they called I believe it was the whole correct saying that. Was it the whole yet. So if the prisoners would act up or do whatever they would throw him in the hall and it was it was essentially Them being isolation and when the prisoner would try to get out and basically start to say. Listen this is like what are you doing. This isn't real. this is They would smack it in and just make loud noises and try to get into the prisoners. Mind that way to An and it's funny. Even i'm i'm reading this and i'm calling the prisoners but whole point is that these were kids. The school college age kids in their adolescence. That were doing something that they that they thought would be. You know something a good way to make money in and the one thing i forgot to mention was the principal. Investigator terminated the experiment. The experiment only lasted six days. It was supposed to go out for two weeks One of the one of the kids had to leave because he These these kids. These prisoners started literally going insane because number one they were being mistreated. They were being isolated One of the one of the guys had a medication that he was supposed to be taking that they deprived him of Wouldn't allow him to. They said that you can leave at any time. But then when the kids would go to actually when the prisoners would want to go to leave. They would interrogate them and they would say. Why do you wanna leave. Why do you want to leave so bad. You really just want to give up and then at that point again. These are Young men that don't want to give up. Don't wanna disappoint somebody. They're going to stay and it resulted in a lot of mental instability between the thr- through the prisoners. And the guards. Just got these huge heads that eventually once it was all over they all walked out together and it's a really great scene in the movie at the end when when they all walk out together and they're just kind of like they don't know what to do because now they're all just normal people with the same rank entitled if you will you know there there. There's no difference anymore so it really. It is a great way to look at It's it's a good social experiment. It was terribly executed but the poi- out of it is to look into the mind. And how power affects you. And i thought that's why it was so it was just an incredibly strange unusual way to go about doing it and also just incredibly interesting so i mean it was met with a lot of criticism and you can read a lot of bearing on refund and it's never been successfully replicated in. It's definitely really really interesting. And if you guys are interested in this you should look up. What's called up a con. Have you ever heard of a panopticon before. I don't believe. I sang hoping saying that right but it is a prison. That is designed a different way than any other prison. And it's kind of the same kind of research but it's more on the building constructor of the prison versus the actual people inside so just a quick break down but the basic outline of the building is it's a round building with cells in a circle on the inside and then there's a tower in the middle that the prisoners cannot see into so the thought was that the guards would be up. There in the prisoners would behave at all times because they didn't know where the guards were looking because they can't see into the middle and it's a it's if you're into this it's a little different. It's a prison experiment kind of thing. But it's more on the building construction of the buildings. Actually yeah yeah. It's a really really interesting read. And it's actually. It's i came across it when i was researching the snowden episode because he uses it as a metaphor for how the surveillance platform works. You know we're always being watched so we're going to behave differently. So yeah it's definitely worth checking into if you think this. This is cool. Because they're kind of tied to each other in a way definitely ryan ryan any final thoughts on that before we can do. I think it's a fascinating study of of the human psyche and like you know how power does affect the person when they're given too much of it in. I mean i'm not surprised that it's never been replicated because i think that you could replicate this with people having foreknowledge of what happened in the first one. You know like you'd have to find people that never heard the story which i think a lot of people have heard the story either in passing or not and i feel like you'd have the natural inclination not to repeat it to not be like the same oppressive people or whatever i don't know she's very. It's very interesting. i. I don't think like said i don't think you could ever get it because of how it happened but It's very interesting as a study of like how a human mind works. i think right. Yeah i think it's definitely the coolest part of this. Entire thing is how the guards changed. Not necessarily the prisoners. You know what. I mean how that power made them change and at the. That's the coolest of the story for me. At least nine definitely agree so moving to our number one or this one is probably our most Controversial topic I i mean by now. It's kind of something that you maybe should expect from from the show is we just want to be completely fair and state that it's It's a little hard to talk about and probably hard to listen to as well number. One hollows experiment harley frederick. Harlow was in american psychologist. Best known for his maternal separation dependency needs an ice social isolation experiments on rhesus monkeys which manifested the importance of caregiving and companionship to social and cognitive development. So essentially with experiment that That was extremely controversial Having to do with the rhesus monkeys he would use methods of isolation and maternal deprivation to see how it affected. These newborn monkeys okay And obviously it was taking this information and then hoping to relate it to Human infants so in the study harlow took these infant monkeys from their biological mothers and gave them to an intimate Surrogate mothers one was a simple construction of wire and wood. And the second one was covered in foam. Rubber and south. Terry cloth the infant rhesus. Monkeys were then assigned to one of two conditions in the first the wire. My mother had a milk bottle and the cloth mother did not then the second condition. The cloth mother had the food while the wire mother had nothing in both conditions harlow found that the infant monkeys spent significantly. More time with the terry cloth mother than they did with the wire mother. And that was even win. The terry cloth mother had neither milk nor nor food. So when only the wire mother had food the baby's came to the wire mother to feed and immediately returned back to cling to the cloth circuit after the Both studies were done. They slowly started to put all of the monkeys together. So what they did was they would take a monkey from isolation and they would put it in a social situation basically just a a an area where all the monkeys were together when the monkeys got in they were extremely confused because they had been separated for so long and they were the they went from being an isolation to a Non isolated environment social situation so essentially they would go into a corner in kinda stay to themselves. They needed this immediate. And in honestly i'll make another point before this experiment there was much less knowledge About the importance of infant dependence on maternal compassion. And things like that there wasn't you know and then we learned To you know right after birth keep the mother with the child and Against the skin and things like that so you may be thinking this odd but it's also science will this is not the stray or okay Before i get to that part Ryan or chad. Have you guys ever heard of this or heard me talk about it or anything like that. I have heard of this At least to a certain extent I believe i had read about it years and years and years ago Just kind of reading through like weird things. That have happened scientific things that have happened. That weren't necessarily ethical. So like i do remember reading about this for sure right chad. Yeah yeah. I have not heard about this. I don't do very well with reading stuff about research on animals. I don't know what it is. It's just something i don't like reading about. I don't like anything that has to do with tormenting of animals for scientific gain. So i have not read about this. It is slightly fascinating to me because a lot of the stuff that we know today about babies. I think a lot of it came from this research. So like you said with the keeping the baby by the mom and all that kind of stuff. So it's a. I have not heard of it but i'm super intrigued by it but i don't know that i'll ever read it because i think anything that i ever read. That's like this. I like it keeps me up at night. Like it's have you guys ever seen her. Yeah have you guys ever seen blackfish the documentary. Sis okay so that. That's like another one for me that i'd like just horrible time watching so yeah i would never go out of my way to find something like this but it is fascinating so this portion was too hard for you to listen to then we thank you for joining us for this episode. And if you wanna hear more than here we go for the second half of this. The part that is even stranger and an even more disturbing in the united states in nineteen forty. Four and experiment was conducted on forty newborn infants to determine whether individuals could thrive alone on basic psychological needs without affection. This particular story. When i first found out about it literally kept me up at night and i've i've told tons of people about it because it is something that is so mind boggling to me that something like this would would ever be done. That it. It's extremely unethical. But not only that. It is It i mean like you'll find out it's it's murder in the name of science and that's that is right obviously it is a huge problem so Twenty newborn infants were house in a special facility where they had caregivers who'd go in and feed them bathe them and change their diapers but nothing else. The caregivers had been instructed not to look at or touch the babies more than what was necessary. Never communicated with them all their physical needs were attended to strictly just their needs in terms of Like what i said and the environment was kept sterile so that none of the babies would become ill. They wanted to make sure it was a controlled environment that that could prove that affection alone is something that a baby needs In order to survive in the infancy another thing. Is that the The volunteers were instructed. The caregivers were instructed to not make any facial indications of the smile they couldn't frown it was to be straight faced with no affection at all. The experiment was halted after four months. By which time at least half of the babies had died at least two more babies died even even after being rescued and brought into a more natural familial environment there was no psychological cause for the baby steps. They were all very physically healthy and Prior to that they were deemed fit for this experiment. Before each baby died there was a period where they would stop verbalizing and trying to engage with the caregivers generally they would stop moving. They wouldn't cry or even change expression. Death would then follow shortly. The babies who had given up before being rescued died in the same manner even though they had been removed from the experimental conditions. The conclusion of this experiment was that a nurturing that nurturing actually a very vital need in humans while this was taking place in a separate facility. The second group of twenty newborn infants were raised with all the basic psychological needs provided and in addition The affection was given from the caregivers this time however the outcome was as expected and no deaths were encountered so that was extremely hard to read. Even though i've i've read it before and i'm familiar with the with the study I imagine that that those listening you know it's hard to listen to. There's a couple of reasons why i wanted to bring this up I have children Chats children we all have we all have those those ways of giving affection. We need to make sure that That we realized that is extremely important. In in two thousand twenty. We are having very big change in the way. Things are perceived in the normal things that we are experiencing them. Today i was reading my daughter a book and in that book it it was talking about. How masks are normal. And everything is to be worn. And i believe judge progress profits that this isn't going to be a political rant. This is something that that is. I feel important about giving children the affection that they need When we wear these masks and we don't show affection and other ways to whether it's our children our family members or whatever. We need to make sure that we're focusing on the fact that kids are they need these these things in order to survive. It's not just going through the motions study and and others prove that it's not normal to not see facial expression it's not normal to not see happiness and a lot of the time right now. We don't see a lot of those things behind a mask. So i'm taking this time to make sure that we remember that we need to show those extra forms of affection to that to our children and to you know our family in general. I definitely agree with everything that you said and i believe you can correct me if i'm wrong on this. The the monkeys that were in the original experiment. I i mean i think they. They had like serious issues afterwards. Like shy of shy of lake almost mental retardation from this experiment so when you look at this base story of the monkeys it's absolutely horrifying and then when you think about it for the second part of the story that alex told that is like unquestionably the most horrifying thing i've probably ever heard of and in. Its its things. I don't do well with well with hurt animals. And i don't do well with her children and i think that for them to both be in the seems kind of we're here. It's it's it's really horrifying ryan. Do you have anything to say. No other than the the i this reminds i had not heard this part of the story. But it reminds me of There was a mental hospital where they were severely understaffed. they basically just left the the patients to just basically die. Which is it just reminds me that and like the these stories are very very difficult but You know when you when you neglect someone. There are consequences right. So yeah thank you for listening We are that strange. You can find us on facebook at that strange podcasts or group that strange that you can find links to in that same Facebook page we also have a blog. Our website is that strange dot net and again check out. Our brand new family of podcasts That we are now part of called straight up strange productions. They're awesome group awesome network and we are very happy and honored to be a part of that also check out the virtual podcast summit that is going to be on november twenty eighth through december. Third indy pods united. It's kinda skin pretty. Big tickets are still being sold. If you want in check that out on facebook as well. And i think that's about it We have a patron if you guys are interested. That's where we house all of our unedited episodes and just kind kinda see different parts of the show that maybe we didn't include in the In the final resisted. Thanks for listening. I'm alex and i'm ryan. And we are. That's strange this produced is a part of straight upstream productions. Discover more shows like this one at straight up. Strange dot com.
013: The Plagued Tour
"Down this road is a small city once thriving full of life, but now desolate and abandoned well abandoned eight for the horrors rumored to reside within. Which I presume while you're here. Now there's nothing wrong with a little morbid curiosity. But pleads remember to stay close to your guys we wouldn't want anyone to get left behind. Hello and welcome to note Ville are beautiful little city full of nightmares and terrors McKee say nope. We're your tour guides I'm Jen I'm Christine. We're going to go back into the portal or going way back in time going way back in time. So I, we're going to stop at the haunted island of failure. and. The later will be stopping into a secret little location to meet probably the only plague doctor left in existence sal make sure you check your tickets and sign your waivers for the portals and even if you didn't sign your waiver, we're still not liable it's it's kind of like on the sign so it's more like a guideline like legal binding document they're just by you buying a ticket in showing up Pretty much signed over your rights to assess losing you. Yup I. We're going to start with a lovely review by one of our tourist this to highlight the lovely things you like to say for us. This is her Bobby Joe Nineteen, eighty, nine Bobby Joe says, Nope Phil sounds like a place. I would definitely visit you haven't been listening close enough. I love the style of your podcast. It's very unique with the tour idea y'all have amazing sound quality. You can definitely tell you put a lot of work into your research of your topics. I've listened to the first two episodes and can't wait for more. The sleep paralysis episode hits close to home since we talked about it on our podcast and all of us have had experiences with it again. Great job. Thank you, Bobby Joe. Unfortunately, we don't which podcast that is so we can't show out. Yeah. Let us know sadness. DM, if you're Bobby Joe Nineteen eighty-nine and we will be shorter Xiaojie out. Show we get started. Let's get started with our plague tour. So, in order to discuss the tour focal points today, we first need to understand a little bit of the history behind the black death or the plague. Pandemic that devastated Europe between thirteen, forty, seven, thirteen, fifty, two. This play claimed the lives of between twenty, five, thirty, million people. The bacteria that caused the disease was carried into Europe by way of Italy's ports starting in Genoa remember in the first Samba tour I mentioned that the Mongols use the first method of biological warfare. This was the time that again like it's fucking messed up but genius, their forces were being decimated by the disease. So they started a catapult the infected bodies into the trading port of Kaffa, which is now feodosia in Crimea. Could you imagine seeing bodies Scotty flying through the air yet? You know he can't. Especially, bodies with now this specific plague. So. Nowadays, we know that bacteria spread through these overcrowded cities and towns have contaminated water lack of sanitation and poor hygiene lake. They were literally just dumping their chamber pots out of windows. Because you know they had no idea that that was an issue. Yeah. You're Senio pestis initially started out infecting fleas would cause a blockage in the digestive tracts of these fleas by creating a scummy colony known as a biofilm. Once a BIOFILM has cemented and established. It is incredibly tough and would take a concentrated effort to scrape off. So obviously with it for me inside these fleas, there's no way in hell it's getting it's going away. Yeah. This biofilm would form over the fleas sophist thus making it impossible for them to ingest the blood they are attempting to consume and they would throw it back up into the bloodstream causing sepsis or blood poisoning. -Ill. Unable to actually eat with lead the fleas to becoming more aggressive in their search for food as they spread throughout the crowded cities. The CDC describes the causes and symptoms of exposure to the plague bacteria. Y pestis plague usually starts from the bite of an infected flea leading to the development of sudden onset of fever headache chills weakness or and one or more swollen tender and painful lymph nodes called Boo boos closest to where the bacteria entered the body. If not treated properly, the bacteria can spread to other parts of the body and can lead to Septicemic Blake septicemic plague also brings on the development of fever chills, extremely snus and abdominal pain shock, and possibly bleeding into the skin and other organs. which kind of leads to that blackening skin hence, the black death. This forum is caused either by untreated bubonic plague or from the bite of an infected flair handling an infected animal. Pneumonic Plague can develop for entry to Bhubaneshwar or septicemic play which has spread to the longest or it can come from inhaling infectious droplets. Pneumonic Plague is the only form of plague. That can be spread from person to person. This form results in the development of fever headache weakness and rapidly developing pneumonia with shortness of breath chest pain. And sometimes bloody or watery mucous back in east times. However, germ theory was not a thing. Yeah. The dominant medical theories at the time were called humanism and miasma theory. Okay. Humor is believed that disease was caused by an imbalance of one of the four humors within the body. So yellow black bile, he mucus and blood CRESPI MIASMA theory held the disease caused by quote bad air from rotting organic matter that would infect through the respiratory system and skin. Not entirely wrong. They're not entirely wrong. Yeah. But while they're not entirely wrong that the people especially the physicians of time we're going about protecting themselves in they're always yeah. So they were just kind of like walking in and like, Oh, just do these things I'll I'll talk about like the actual treatments some of the treatments they did later, they're pretty barbaric this lack. Of Knowledge led to at least a couple more major outbreaks of the plague in the sixteenth and seventeenth century leading to millions more dead throughout Italy and France. These later outbreaks led to the inception and use of the outfits that are today considered the trademark outfit of plague doctors but I'll be coming back to them after our lovely tour guide. Jen Texas to her location. So we will be stepping into the portal here go. Hello welcome to portfolio island. Wasn't it lovely changes smell the death and decay. So, Pavilion Island is an island marked by death decay and dread from its earliest recorded entry in history in the fifth century although one source or said, it could've been populated as early as two thousand B. C.. But in the fifth century Romans evaded barbarian invasions and fled to the Small Island pavilion. There as well as many others in the Venetian lagoon was used as a defensible outpost against many invaders due to its geographic location for centuries, Romans fought off hordes of invaders and many would flew to these islands to the land for no stranger to bloodshed. Boy, centuries of war. Isn't that like most of our history though Mike Human History? Yes. Overtime as refugees fled to Bavaria, the population grew and pavilion thrived. So the timing was populated until about thirteen seventy nine when the inhabitants were forced to evacuate due to an oncoming attack from the Genoese Naval Fleets Notre and actually the octogonal fort you can see over there. was constructed as a defense structure to fight off these attacks and it's still stands today. So, there were even rumors that during the centuries, it was uninhabited Napoleon Bonaparte US pavilion as a secret basis or military weapons right so and then once his enemies found out they attacked and this could possibly be proven by the fact that there are multiple French worship sunken in the Venetian lagoons. Grand contributing to the bloodshed of the island. Then this was known to have extremely strict sanitation laws since they were central help for international trade, which made them susceptible to the spread of the plague. As you said, although they didn't understand how infections worked again like what you said. They did know that if you separate the sick from the healthy, you decrease chances of spreading the disease vote that's. Pretty solid logic. Yet. So during the plague outbreak in the early fourteenth hundreds, lesser toes, which were quarantine stationed where institutions or hospitals were set up to quarantine ill or potentially ill maritime travelers to prevent spreading the disease to the main city. Venice got you for like forty days right Yep. So the first Lazarenko form was called the Lazarenko Vecchio those who were quarantined to remain on these islands for forty days to ensure that the ship's travelers were free from the plague. In fact, the word quarantine stems from the system. Since the Italian word for forty is Quaranta. This thought that was really interesting considering we were in quarantine for the last six months. Where comes from. Six months longer than forty days. In, fourteen eighty, five, win Vanessa's ruler died from the plague the city hunker down and created quarantine colonies on the islands instead of just having them as port check ins for the maritime travelers. Anyone who had the plague or even showed the mild symptoms were shipped off to the Lazarus does until they recovered or died, which prohibits guaranteed death point up. Pavilion one of these Lazarus does and although it wasn't used during the early outbreaks of the plague, it was used for the later outbreaks. So there were multiple outbreaks of the plague, not just the one, the thirteen, hundred, fourteen, hundred. When Venice was overrun with the sick and dying these islands were uses dumping grounds for corpses and those too sick to fight. They had these mass graves on the mainland and when they became overrun, that's when they started using these islands as mass graves. Didn't you find something where they kept digging it up and throwing bodies eight and then burying it again. So it's like let's just keep exposing the air. They just pile bodies on the buddies. So sometimes people were ripped from their families and were brought to the island kicking and screaming and God did anyone ever make it off these islands once they were sent there is pretty much immediate death sentence. That's awful. So but our earlier before they became the quarantine colonies when they were justice stations like when the the maritime travelers were just on their ships, it was like, okay like they just kinda chill there for forty days and you know they had food they had water like they just which. They could send letters and stuff to their family. And one of the things that they would do to prevent the spread of the disease is they would stab and fumigate the letter before they sent it off Oh my God because they didn't know what caused it, but they're like, well, you could potentially be in fact is let's do this Shit I. But anyway, after the it was after like when the plate just got like really tricky out of hand and they were using these islands mass grave grave sites that's when people were just getting thrown there for having the mildest symptoms like you'd have a cough or like sniffle they're like. People joke about that now on somebody coughs or sneezes does like. It's like you're afraid to have your normal seasonal allergies in the I, know of course, it would happen when everybody's got allergies. Right in the middle of Fuckin-. Spring Yeah. People were forced to live in filthy conditions waiting in fear as they watch thousands of bodies, pile on top of other bodies and were either buried or incinerated to prevent the spread of the disease. Some stories even say that not everyone was dead when they were thrown into the grave pits and that people were buried or burned alive. They just had no regard for anybody. They're just like you can gain the your diseased. Yeah. So it was other that these grave pits were unmarked and unknown on pavilion at least however, some say that there underneath the area of the island where food was once cultivated when pull valley was thriving with a population. And now it's a small. I feel like I don't want that wine. During an excavation in the early two thousands, archaeologists found evidence of these grave pits, Lazarenko Vecchio and estimated account of about fifteen hundred skeletons, plague victims of Shit. But obviously, there's probably a ton more. Because a lot of these Lazarenko's haven't been excavated pavilion being one of them via Sopa valley has yet to be investigated So people can only speculate how many bodies were actually buried on the island. Yeah. But with that being said. Rivers, say that about one hundred, sixty, thousand, thousand people have died on pavilion men, women, even children and that fifty percent of the island's soil is made of the ash of the burned bodies of the plague victims. Okay. That's really creepy if it's true. Yeah. Some locals even say that fishermen fear casting their nets near the island in fear of catching charred skeletal remains. All right. I mean I guess that's not any more crazy than may not wanting the wine from the vineyard. So I don't know if this is true or not. But I did read that these charred bones and skeletal remains do wash on the shore frequently. Okay. But again, no, no proof. In, seventeen seventy six after the worst of the plague was over the public health office took over the island and use it once again as a quarantine station for maritime travelers, any ship travelling Venice had to stop a pavilion for inspection and anyone who showed signs of the plague had to be quarantined on the island. During this time, two ships were said to have failed inspection the seventeen ninety s and pavilion once again became a quarantine. Until the early eighteen hundreds when the hospital shutdown hurt after centuries of being shattered and bloodshed from more to the victims of the Plague Pavilion remained abandoned until nineteen twenty two when they decided to remark at the hospital by turning it into a mental hospital. Oh okay. Different sources say that this wasn't a mental hospital. In fact, it was a hospice for the elderly. However, there's evidence that even if it wasn't a full fledged will hospital, there is a least a psychiatric award president in this hospital. Because on the abandoned building in. Italian it says like. Department or psychiatric ward or something. Right It's frigging scrawled on the building. Yeah. So there's there's no denying that it was not nine soon was at least a psychiatric ward if it wasn't a full fledged mental hospital. Okay let's just ditch our old people over there. Who Cares it's haunted rate. It depends on the source you look at, but it's either an elderly home or mental either way both are like. I don't know what's the word I want. They're very morbid. No, it's not at risk. It's different like vulnerable. They're a vulnerable population. Yeah. They're just throws populations on there. Like is whatever the nothing's going to happen there on the island but so many people type there. So now, we all know how comfortable accommodating and cheery mental hospitals used to be right. I, mean to fair. The same could probably be said about old folks home so not. So, and also given the history of the island of mental hospital could only serve to ended up right. Of course, for sure one hundred percent. That's how that works sense the sarcasm. But patients at this mental hospital could have been sent here initially for all sorts of reasons from relatively benign cases like depression to more severe cases like schizophrenia or something like that. If they were insane prior to arriving on the island. They soon driven mad by the sight of the ghosts and burning, rotting, plague victims, or and hearing their whales and cries for help. Oh. These claims were dismissed as hallucinations and outbursts from an already deranged individual. However, of course, that's fucked rumors around the mental hospital state that since this was such a secluded island and hospital that it allowed immoral doctors to experiment and torture patients with lobotomies and electric shock to be their signature procedure, I actually believe that one hundred percent apparently the doctor was adamant about becoming famous for curing or figuring out why people aren't saying he used all manner of tools to perform these lobotomies such as hammer and nail. Chisels without any real basis for or how you perform them looking stuck them in the head He also had an absolute disregard for sanitary conditions or even using anesthesia on the patient. But it makes the episode of, isn't it lower? The Ice Pick? Yeah. Yeah. Doctors just fucking stuck shit in your brain. Does that happens right? Dumb. He was said to have frequently performed these procedures at the top of the Bell Tower that is still present as you can see. So, in the Nineteen Thirties, Dr supposedly went insane because he started to also see not only the ghosts plague victims invested the island, but also the ghosts of his tortured victims though I mean he kinda deserves it. Yes. So plagued by their cries for help and accusations of torture and murder he went to the top of the Bell Tower and threw off. Let's see what you did there. Thought you catch. Others. Say he was pushed by the spirit of victims or that his patients brought him up there in term off either way. Deserved anyway he fell off the belltower. So a nurse who supposedly witnessed this stated that he didn't die immediately and when he hit the ground and she went to check on him, he was barely alive but a mist came from the ground and strangled him until he finally died. Let's interesting. But again, definitely deserved it. Yet another Mercedes that his patients bricked up his body in the bell tower or don't they just locked him up in there while he was still alive. Okay. So either he fell off the belltower or he died in the belltower either built our plays a role in his death. Yes. Gotcha, the hospital is finally closed in nineteen, sixty eight in pavilion. Once again remained abandoned where nature has reclaimed its dominance. Locals reported is still hear the bell in the Bell Tower ringing even though the bill was removed long ago that's creepy or they hear cries moans emanating from the island sicker Jesus imagine having like a nice peaceful night with your family or something like fishing and you just hear plague victims. So the remaining buildings are dilapidated in crumbling as plant life has grown inside all cracks and crevices. Rusted beds, tables and medical equipment just lay haphazardly across the interior of the hospital and graffiti litters the walls from trespassers. So it's as if they just kind of like up and left one day without taking and. They decided that they're closing the hospital back in nineteen sixty. There's like fucking someone else can deal with this shit. We don't need any of those tools we have plenty. Really. feels. Wrong. But Earth claims all. Really reminds me of like last of us because like I remember like seeing how nature just like takes over these buildings that really happened does he's buildings and it's like it does happen. Yeah. There's there's so many pictures out there of it just reclaiming things that were just left abandoned. It's amazing. Yeah. Plant life is fucking brutal. Yeah. No. Once once humanity dies if we don't kill the planet with us, the planet will live on no problems today you can see scaffolding alongside the hospital and rumor stated that there was an attempt to renovate it. However, construction workers were spooked in Ben in the project of. An article written by ransom. Riggs. Stated when he asked his guide, the real reason behind the scaffolding, he was told that it was placed there to prevent further decay of the building and it wasn't the result of abandoned renovation project that seems weird. People just make up rumors I mean even if that was the case why? I'm picturing scaffolding that gets used like you don't just put scaffolding up and leave it like that's generally not how that works I mean one of them feels like a cover up story. No no no. We we put those up because that's how it works Xing it. That's not true. Although it is illegal in off limits visit Valia. So don't tell anybody were here. Unless you go through an extensive application process for approval by the Italian government, it isn't entirely out of the question because we have special portals. Apparently you can find a local who would be willing to charter you there at your own risk for a fair bit of money. However, a lot of these people refused to step foot on the island themselves and we'll just drop you off in peace out until they come pick you up later. I. Can't believe I wonder do they get close enough that like you can get out Safely or to like several feet away. Yeah. And there's like a little set of stairs. Park your boat at and then. From there. So they're not that scared when you set foot on the island immediately, the heavy feeling of being watched overcomes you and there's a severe sense of dread. There have been reports of being followed by shadow entities within the buildings crawling along the walls during the your field watched right now I do. It's oppressive being physically shoved into walls and hearing disembodied voices wailing in Agony Oh, also, her angry voices telling them to leave or get out at others reported being slapped scratch choked Jake's and sees can be seen in heard in the plague field were the mass graves were supposedly located. Some people have said that they can smell sulphur and burning wood psychics who visited the island say. It's long history of suffering has left it with a very vicious malignant aura and most refused to ever go back Oh. Yeah. Attempts to inhabit the island have obviously been met with failure. There was a rumor again, a rumor that a family wanted to build a vacation home there why and on their first night staying their daughter ended up with deep cuts on her face that needed fourteen stitches. The family refused to comment what had happened on the island. So of course, speculation states that the evil entities didn't approve them wanting to vacation there I don't like we have been suffering for centuries. Vacation fucking. No. Yeah. Find literally anywhere else in two thousand, fourteen plagued by debt. You can't Italian income their win it. It doesn't hit the same. The Italian government attempted to give a ninety nine year lease to the highest bidder they were hoping someone would by the agreement in order to build a luxury hotel for tourists to help rid the country of some of that debt frustrated that Venice continues to be overrun by tourism and fearful that their history continues to diminish as a result a private group formed called Pavilion Per Tutti or pavilion for everyone. They wanted to purchase island to use it as a space for recreation and camping where people can just relax instead of adding to the continuous maze of luxury resorts that cluttered the Venetian lagoons. But kind sounds like taking your history and turning it into a tourist destination state don't want they want it to be for locals wanted this to be a space for local Gotcha. Okay. They're tired of Venice being overrun by tourism which the luxury hotels would invite tourism right? That makes didn't. To have yet in other luxury hotel, they just wanted to space chill out. Yeah. That makes sense. So they offered if anyone who's interested will pitch in ninety nine euro but they could stick a claim to the island for the whole community to visit and enjoy they were able to garner four, hundred, forty, four, thousand euro. While, Luigi, Bernardo, a businessman entrepreneur and now mayor of Venice. Place a winning bid five, hundred, thirteen, thousand euros. Since Pavilion knew that they couldn't outbid him. They set out to frustrate instead. So. This was an auction but these were the only two people who were bidding of course nobody wants that Shit yes. So Pavilion Protei didn't counter offer as a result Luigi couldn't increase his offer So since his initial offer was so low of the government cancelled, the auction the government was hoping for something around ten million Euros Holy Shit in since the offer was too low there is no use accepting saying quote selling pavilion with its history and tradition for just one hour of interest on our national debt is criminal. So essentially to them, five, hundred thousand euro isn't worth it. They're they're millions of euro in debt that this half half Mil euro wouldn't put a dent in their debt. So what's the point? Yeah. So all right nobody owns it. Government that still, of course, in two, thousand, sixteen, a group called the Young Arch Architects Association lots of competition for designers and architects to submit ideas in order to revive the loss island a pavilion, the parameters included to create a university campus where students could participate in leisure activities as well as their studies. Again, all of this feels like it's just not where you WANNA put it. Even, still to this day, pavilion remains abandoned with its crumbling buildings shrouded in torment and sadness haunted by the thousands of people who have died on its soil. So, with that said, let's check in with the eccentric paranormal TV show goes adventures boy everyone's favorite dramatic t. v. what Do. So in two thousand, nine, Zach Nicotine Aaron are locked down on Petrolia where's axe first words upon landing on the island where you have reached your final destination. Hell God. Such trauma Queen. So honestly, this is one of the creeper episodes. I. Seen Him Ventures. I take it with a grain of salt when I watch them but some of the things they allegedly caught recruited af. I do like the evidence they get by the dramatics are just very. So they caught a lot of VP's heard footsteps and caught orbs on camera and what I really respected is even though it was like horrible. Italian. They made an attempt to talk to the spirits in Italian because honestly if you think about it, if the ghost doesn't speak English, it's not GonNa understand you therefore can't respond or if it responds, it's not gonNA respond in English or it's not going to respond to them an intelligent seeming way like, yeah. Even if you can translate the response, it's not going to be a response to what you said to be like what? What the what did you say like I don't speak English? No English. Yeah. So although it was like horrible Italian, they tempted which I respect for so. At one point nick pleaded with the spirits to use their energy and it was then that they all felt a sap of energy. Aaron felt lightheaded and couldn't stand up following the sound of a loud bang and when they looked back at the footage in October shooting into Aaron's neck they had spiked in their ems detectors, which would be weird considering there's no electricity on the island, right? So where these banks coming from. The scariest part of the episode was when Zach allegedly got possessed in the hospital and you can use facial expression change and he was just extremely angry in glaring at nick and Aaron like it's like night and day, you can see his facial expressions changer beautifully, and he went off on Aaron yelling. Get the fuck out of here like he just kept yelling at them. And what was scarier about this encounter was Zach straight about a machete, his hands. Yeah. So Nick and Errand felt threatened. Yeah and Zach was like banging on the wall super hard telling whatever it was always possessing him to stop even though they ask for it. But also isn't that like not how getting possessions out works like you don't just please get out and then they just like okay. Sorry. Yeah. Generally know how that works. Nick had to force him to leave the room and as soon as they were out in the clear Zach are acting normal again and he said he couldn't remember anything at all. But he all he remembered seeing like a red filter over his is and he had an extreme feeling of anger and hatred like he was just angry India remember anything that happened little surprise didn't actually use I mean they wouldn't on this TV show but I. Mean you would think it would know this is weapon and I'm upset. Yeah. Maybe had he stayed in the room longer if nick couldn't get him out yeah. If he haven't had enough willpower to make himself lever, make yellow to stop. Yeah. So after this, they decide to investigate in the open field of the island where the supposed mass graves were here. They heard a disembodied scream and it's pretty clear and it's creepy. Yeah and they also smelled the odor of something burning. Zach also or a plague doctor mask? Taunting the spirits Aaron was up on a bridge and it was at this time that you hear footsteps running towards Aaron through the grass up the ridge. No thank you and there's a light on a tripod next to him and knocked over. The entity like Ram through went went up to up the regime knocked over this night. Yeah and also in this field, they caught like a white apparition like floating through the field. At another time during the investigation, they played a recorded message on loop of questions and Italian to entities, and they left this boombox in building by itself, and they said a digital recorder next to it, and then they just left it alone. They all they captured multiple VP's on digital recorder and one even said I'm here come here in Italian oh, that feels like like he used to him. Yeah. Later on, they had let the static x camera in one room while Nick was in that same room. Held camera was sapped of energy and at the same time here on disembodied voice of Moaning. and. After nick left this room and the static camera is left running by itself, you see a black mist come from the ceiling like comes and stretch half way down the goes back into the ceiling. I wonder if it's the same black miss that killed the doctor maybe I don't remember what building this was here but I mean supposedly it came out of the ground. So maybe it just permeates the island. Yeah. So but yeah, with all theatrics are not this is one of the more active episodes I've seen adventure. So check it out if you're a fan. Or even if you're not a fan if you're into watching something paranormal, if you can get past the dramatics in small doses. Kick Yeah. The evidence that they caught. Pretty good on on this. So. That's GONNA do it for Pavilion Island. So we're going to jump back into the portal and tour guide. Christine is going to take us to visit somebody. All righty. So since the plague doctors we will be discussing are no longer around as I mentioned before I figured the best place to go to talk about them is the Sep Foundation where they happen to have a plague Doctor Anomaly secured. Yeah. So let's go ahead and step in the Bordeaux. Company. Greetings at I I know he he seems very kind but keep your distance from his containment anyway. I'll talk about him later he's just staring I. Know He yeah. Just keep away. He has a tendency to sense things that we don't. Sense, the disease. Journal. I need you to get a little further away from him. Now. I know I'm not, but she is Jen your doctor. Did with him. All right. So The plague doctors had always been around performing their medieval medical practices to help people balance whatever humor's they believed out of balance with practices such as bloodletting. Chewing certain herbs or heating jars to put on the skin to name a few to kind of get rid of like bortles and stuff. Yeah. She the jobs of the plague doctors of this era were to diagnose and treat patients oversee the last will and testament of the dead and dying and Berry and record the dead The official uniform of the plague doctor invented until sixteen nineteen because swale not as bad as the outbreak of the plague death. In the fourteenth century, the bubonic plague continued to ravage Europe for over two hundred and fifty years. The seventeenth century has mat. Su If he will was conceived by Charles. DeLorme the chief physician to King Louis the thirteenth of France among a couple other kings DeLorme wrote of the costume that quote the knows half a foot long shaped like a beak filled with perfume under the co we wear boots made of Moroccan leather or goat leather and a short sleeved blouse in smooth skin. The hat and gloves are also made of the same skin with spectacles over the is. Essentially, they're protected from head to toe for the most part. Yeah. It said that the cloak plague doctor costume is made up of waxy leather covered in animal fat in order to prevent miasma entering through the pores of prominent blacktop. Pat In order to indicate that the person is in fact, a doctor and beaked mask, which often held strongly aromatic herbs, which would filter out the miasma which herbs they were varies from source to source. Sometimes, they would even set the herbs smoldering within the mask to. Help their potency or they would even use a vinegar-soaked sponge. They were also carry around and Cain with them to keep a safe distance from their patients and allegedly protect themselves from desperate infected people social distancing. Yes. They would also sometimes apparently use it like check pulses maybe indicate where they want people to help them out because maybe it was difficult to hear them speaking through the mask is kind of the idea. Okay. How do they use it to check a pulse push it into the neck interesting. and. Then you can feel vibrations I don't know that's again what they use the stick force. Specifically, it Kinda also varies from source to source, but for the most part, a lot of people seem to agree that it was to keep people away from them and to help them kind of indicate logistics. While the reasoning for the makeup of the outfit was sound within their flawed knowledge, there were definitely some glaring issues with the get up. There were obviously air holes poked into the Ma- the beak to allow the doctors to breathe and their ankles were also exposed to the elements which were apparently favorite place for the infected fleas to attack. Oh it has been argued that the plague doctors actually did more harm than good during this time and that the confidence wearing this new protective may have been the cause since transmission of the disease was still not fully understood. These doctors likely didn't change or claim their clothes before seeing new patients and may also have been spreading the disease with canes. The Germans apparently like to make fun of the plague doctor outfits calling them, Dr, beak or Biki. Biki. Beyond the written descriptions of the outfit by Charles DeLorme and sixteen, Nineteen, a German engraver in sixteen fifty, six named Gerhard. Offenbach. Published a popular image of a plague doctor in their full outfit along with the description of how it protects the wearer against death. One famous illustration by policy. I called Dr Schnabel on Rome or Dr Biki from be took ultimate. Box work in a satirical image claiming that the doctor does nothing but terrified people and take money from the dead and dying okay. I image added extra elements to the outfit which have stuck around today including clawlike gloves and a pointing stick topped with a bat winged Hourglass hourglass this counting the time you have left on this or they just made it as. Dark as the could. According to National Geographic quote the look became. So iconic in Italy that the plague doctors became a staple of Italian committee at the art and is still a popular costume choice for Carnival in Venice. So often wear the mask due to a lack of historical writings from the period to clarify and backup the role of the plague doctors what they were. There is much debate as to how. Prevalent. The beaked costume actually was, which came first the theatrical representations of the protective where he does have the creepy image and it would make sense that they would create something. So dramatic to represent something like the playing right one thing that does seem certain though nearly all of the plague doctors either died or disappeared before the end of the outbreaks so they would some of them just left. The costume itself and the environment in which it was born have carried with it. Terrifying connotations for people in today's society. It is a reminder of a more barbaric time in of all the death that was overseen by people wearing the outfit. Yeah. So at least one source mentioned that some places wouldn't even be aware of an outbreak in the area until a doctor showed up fuck. So in their minds, the doctors brought death. thus, it is no wonder that the look of the plague doctor has been used to instill fear throughout appearances and pop culture. Yeah. One of Batman's foes marrying maker dresses like a plague doctor and as a former doctor of Arkham asylum before being fired for his violent treatments of patients later, opening his own practice for the joker obsessed and creating the League of smiles. Did they like give the scars? No, they were just. Like, sent them out to cause distractions for Batman so that he could take people out that wrong him. So it was just kind of some great big in a smokescreen if he will. Dark Horse Comics have a six comic horror mini series called death head that revolves around a murderous plague doctor. K. Barron, octavius dying of the Black Death I appears flanked by plague doctors in Marvel sixteen o two Spiderman the fifth episode and season thirteen of supernatural features. Eventual spirit of a deranged doctor that would drill holes into his patient skulls and haunted his collection of plague masks. His face was also played mask. That was a creepy episode. It was good. Yeah. Adventure Time my little pony and disenchantment all feature a character at least a little paulie again. All feature, a character in at least a plague doctor mask in one episode as well. Cam several movies make small reference to plague with them. Mostly appearing in the background a number of video games, feature characters and outfits that look like the plague doctors costumes such as the legend of Zelda pathologic path of exile payday to an overwatch to name a handful. World of warcraft has the grand apothecary putrid. Who Wears a plague doctor outfit and is a plague spreader. Other Games feature characters and quests that actually involve plague in some fashion like ruin scape town of Salem bloodborne in darkest dungeon assassin's creed chew and brotherhood have a multiplayer character who was a doctor and his called Jack The ripper off. Thanks in Hitman. The player can dawn Silvio crusoes antique plagued doctor outfit and use it as an guys which may prompt some passersby to comment that you've been playing too much assassin's creed. Most notable for me personally is this strange gentlemen contained here called sap zero, four nine or simply plague doctor. The Game Sep containment breach came out in two thousand twelve and has the player attempting to escape the foundation during a containment breach. Players must survive against a handful of hostile anomalies including zero, four nine as well as the Human Mu militant task force sent to secure the facility nine tailed Fox. Sep Foundation is a fictional group of researchers in D. Class or disposable personnel with insecure facilities across the Globe Task Ruth containing studying documenting dangerous anomalies The foundation uses its own classification system to determine the threat level of every anomaly zero four nines. Classification is Euclid, which means it is an unpredictable object somewhat dangerous to interact with YEP. So that's why keep your distance. Rain. Zero four nine as a humanoid anomaly whose appearance is that of a plague doctor though not as if it is a person wearing a costume but more like the costume is the person. Despite this xrays of showing a human skeletal Structure Beneath the Outer Layer, the following are excerpts from sap foundation entry regarding a CPA zero, four nine while Sep's zero, four nine is generally cooperative with most foundation personnel, outbursts and sudden changes in behavior to be met with elevated force. Under, no circumstances should any personnel come into direct contact with sap zero for nine during these outbursts in the event Sep's zero for becomes aggressive. The application of lavender has been shown to produce a calming effect on the entity. Interesting. Once calmed SEP's zero four nine will generally becomes compliant and will return to containment with little resistance. Sep's zero, four, nine capable of speech in a variety of languages though tends to prefer English or medieval. French. While SAP zero, four nine is generally cordial and cooperative with foundation staff. It can become especially irritated or at times outright aggressive when it feels that it is in the presence of what it calls the pestilence. Often having to be restrained. Should it encounter such if left unchecked SEP's four nine will generally attempt to kill any such individual sap zero nine is capable of causing all biological functions of an organism to cease through direct skin contact. Sap Zero four nine has expressed frustration or remorse after these killings indicating that they have done little to kill the pestilence though will usually seek to perform a crude surgery on the corpse using the implements contained within a black doctors bag carries on its personnel at all times. While the surgeries are not always successful. They often result in the creation of instances of sap zero, four, nine dash to these instances are basically reanimated corpses and are generally inactive unless provoked or directed by sap zero, four nine in which case they will become aggressive interesting. So so ZOMBIES Zombie controls. Zero four nines considers these beings to be quote cured. And that is all I have on the plate doctors. I just got a plague doctor. Are you going to name him Dr Biki? I'm. GonNa I'm Dr Biki. Oppose to picture of him on social media. Say Hi Dr Biki. All right. 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