35 Burst results for "SAINTS"
THE MYSTIC Margery Kempe - burst 02
"What do you get. When you combine a british catholic country squire okay An american feminist medieval list And a broken ping pong ball. This is the weirdest riddle i ever. The answer is okay. The first autobiography ever written in the english language okay. I know that you know the first autobiography ever written. In the english language the book of margery kempe chapter of my dissertation about this in that chapter of my dissertation. Would you clearly have not read. I've read it. I argue that. It is not an autobiography. it's a saint's life which is not the same thing to which i say we're going to have lots of fights. Oh my gosh. Oh rate and i know you love when we disagree i do. I love it. Because i'm right and this is fascinating after two of my dissertation starts with. What is an autobiography. And i will begin with page thirty. Let's episode fight fight fight fight.
Archdiocese Investigates Sexual Abuse Allegations Against Bartlett Priest
"Catholic priest from Chicago Archdiocese Church in Bartlett is facing sexual abuse allegations. WGN's Jackie Bang is more and the letter to the Saint Peter Damian perish, Cardinal Blaze Soup Itch wrote. Quote. I have asked Father CEO MC to step aside from ministry following receipt by the Archdiocese of allegations of sexual abuse of a minor, approximately 30 years ago allegations air claims That have not been proven as true or false. Therefore, guilt or innocence should not be assumed Father Christopher CEO MC will live away from the Paris while they investigate, the archdiocese reported The allegations to DCFs and the Cook County State's attorney Seo make is the pastor of ST Peter. Damian
79 People Arrested Following Demonstration for Daunte Wright
"Again protesters have gathered on the day when the police officer who shot and killed twenty year old dante right while he was unarmed was arrested and charged with second degree manslaughter. Curfews in neighboring minneapolis and saint. Paul were in place last night at the same hour. But we're lifted tonight last night. Seventy nine people were arrested in brooklyn center. Minnesota from brooklyn center is nbc. News correspondent. ron led us off last night. what is the difference tonight lawrence. It's it just feels a lot more intense. There's a small crowd but they just seem to be a lot of energy there and then the last hours since nightfall we've again seen this exchange of projectiles rocks and bottles going in one direction. Rubber bullets a other devices other products coming from the police as well and and it goes on and on if you take a close look i think we can zoom over there. You can see again that sense over there. Which is the entrance to the police headquarters which again has been the focus of the protesters and the police and national guard. There's a significant national guard presence again there tonight. A troops in camouflage and heavy military like vehicles back there again trying to protect it this place and keep the protesters back oldest. Just comes down to the next hour. What will happen in the next hour. As we approach curfew will be police and national guard decided to push and clear the street out here as they have the past few nights. How long will they let. The protesters continued to go on
All About Birth Hypnosis
"Mentioned. The words labor and delivery too many women and thoughts of excruciating pain and prolonged agony harsher to surface more and more women everywhere are searching for alternative ways to relieve labor pain techniques such as bradley method in the mas two forms of natural childbirth are popular with expected moms but many say that once the pain of contractions start the techniques. Go out the window. One technique that is gaining popularity with women and members of the medical community is hypno- thing. Hypno- birthing combines hypnosis with comprehensive topper education relaxation imagery exercises and positive affirmations to believe the pain associated with labor and delivery michelle smith of saint cloud a certified hypnotist thing practitioner in to la or birth assistant acknowledges that there are similarities between the different methods of natural childbirth. But says the use of hypnosis makes hypno- birthing a more effective pain reducing technique. It's like getting a very powerful extra tool to release fear and to create deeper more profound relaxation. Smith's that the hypno- birthing program was developed in nineteen eighty nine by clinical hypnotherapist. Marie mongan and it is based on the work of an english. Obstetrician dr grant. Dick read considered by many to be the father of modern natural childbirth. Dick read believes that pain in in childbirth was brought upon by what he called the fear tension paint syndrome when a woman is afraid she gets tense which brings resistance and pain.
Minnesota Teams Postpone Games in Wake of Police Shooting of Daunte Wright
"Pro teams in Minneapolis postpone their games Monday, the wake of the shooting by police of Dr Wright's Sunday and Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, The Twins postpone their game with Boston. The Timberwolves game of the Nets postponed in the Minnesota Wild called off their game against Saint Louis on Lee. The wild game has been rescheduled. No word on the status of the baseball game set for
Curfew in effect in Saint Paul and Minneapolis following fatal officer-involved shooting
"Take effect a few hours from now in Minneapolis and ST Paul after the deadly shooting during a traffic stop arrest yesterday that ledge of violent protests in a Minneapolis suburb, Brooklyn Center police chief Tim Gan and described the shooting of 20 year old Dante, right, as quote an accidental discharge. And says the officer who fired the shot intended to use a Taser, not a handgun body Cam Video of the shooting has been released less than 24. Hours after the incident, Brooklyn Center Mayor Mike Elliott says his community is grieving and he is heartbroken. We will get to the bottom of this. We will do all That is within our power. To make sure that Justice is done. Briganti round The shooting comes this former Minneapolis police officer Derrick Show Vin is on trial for last summer's murder of George Floyd. Tanya J. Powers.
Prince Harry returns to bury his grandfather
"Yesterday. Prince harry touchdown in the uk for his grandfather's funeral around fifteen in the afternoon just took a normal british airways flight. Meghan markle who is pregnant. With the couple's second child was not with him. And a spokesman said the duchess of sussex has been advised by her physician not to travel. So that's why she lets. The reason we're getting did not accompany him. And for harry this his first visit home since essentially quitting the royal family now because of covid restrictions. The funeral for prince philip. This saturday is gonna look a little different. Only thirty guests will be allowed to attend. It is gonna take place at saint george's chapel at windsor castle. The event will be televised. If you wanna watch it And speaking a meghan. Prince philip before his death reportedly thought that harry and meghan interview with oprah was quote unquote madness. That was the word that he kept using. That is according to his biographer. Gil rendra from role please. What did he was madness. -particularly he on the claim megan's claim that undisclosed members of the royal family expressed concern over the color of rt skin before his birth. So this royal biographer said. I was not surprised. Because that's exactly the word he used to describe to me. The personal tv interviews given by prince charles and princess diana back in the nineteen ninety s. Like they just talk too much and his royal. Highness wasn't concerned about the timing of the interview. He was in the hospital when it aired but he was concerned about the content. How the couple aired their personal matters so very publicly.
Andrew: Philip's death has left 'huge void' in queen's life
"Void and Queen Elizabeth life and her and other members of the Royal family attended church today at the Royal Chapel of All Saints two days after the 99 year old Philip died. More on these stories in town. Hold out come
Ash-covered St. Vincent braces for more volcanic eruptions
"The last few people remaining in the area closest to an erupting volcano in the eastern carribean island of Saint Vincent have face to get clear the final evacuees made their way to safety at day off to the last two free apple K. no rocketed with an explosion that shook the ground speed ask I would and blanketed the island in a layer of fine volcanic rock the eruption is its first large ones since nineteen seventy nine US covered everything creeping into homes because the noise is on a strong sulfur smelling it in the air evacuee to one a Bucks says she's hoping the eruption will end soon I am a bed I'm just hoping for the best set up everything comes over so I can go back home local resident veranda Hicks says she's been through this before did I was nine years old now I'm fifty years old scientists warn that the explosions could continue for days or even weeks said that the worst could be yet to come I'm Karen Thomas
Ash-Covered St. Vincent Awaits More Volcanic Explosions
"I'm Julie Walker ash rained down across the eastern Caribbean island of Saint Vincent on Saturday a day after a powerful volcanic explosion and they expect even more activity the loss of revel que no continue to rise up to twenty five thousand feet in the air covering safe inside with thick layers of ash and a strong scent of sulfur even some neighboring islands were affected thousands of people had to evacuate Friday but let Mario Edwards spent the night in the red zone then Saturday was it is ash covered cars leading the move no so right now all that I mean my family right here right now officials say the volcano has entered an eruptive phase that may continue over the next few days or even weeks royal Caribbean cruises is they're prepping for evacuations I'm Julie Walker
Do Green Bay Packers need to recommit to Aaron Rodgers?
"Now. Some people are speculating. Maybe about this year but aaron rodgers is just being stubborn and he wants to make some more money and you might say well. Wait a minute. Rj hasn't tom brady tatis all than taking less money. Helps you win. yeah. I think so. But there's another way for the packers to gain spending power. No tom brady. Didn't care about. Robert kraft keeping the money instead of him. Not at all when he cared about was the salary cap. There's a finite amount of money you can spend and yeah you can kick the can down the road the saints showing you that but it eventually comes. Do look at big band this year and what he was due and thus the salary cap is the constraining variable. It's the thing that constrains the limiting factor. So aaron rodgers could have and the packers could have renegotiate his contract and then made it where the money that went against the cap this year got deferred some of it. But you don't get to do that for free. What happens is it takes a further commitment down the road. So you can pay aaron rodgers for two more years or three more years and if you do three you can pay them less this year at least salary cap wise. So what's the tradeoff. Want more commitment better now.
Explosive Eruption Rocks Volcano on Caribbean's St. Vincent
"The volcano in the carribean island of Saint Vincent has erupted the island's government had already ordered some sixteen thousand people to evacuate homes near the volcano as they made their way along the winding mountain side roads an ash column could be seen towering overhead emergency management officials estimated it reached twenty thousand feet unfortunately for Saint Vincent most of the ash was headed north east over the Atlantic Ocean but communities closest to the volcano reported heavy ashfall and poor visibility hindered the evacuations summer being put aboard cruise ships others heading to nearby islands and some two thousand people are in government shelters the four thousand foot volcano last erupted in nineteen seventy nine it continues to rumble I'm Ben Thomas
Florida sues CDC, demanding cruise ships be allowed to sail immediately
"The lawsuit has begun with the support of florida governor. Onto santa's florida attorney general ashley moody announced thursday morning that she had filed a lawsuit debating that the centers for disease control lift be conditional sale order for the cruise lines. We have filed suit this morning. Just before meeting with you here today against the administration. Hhs and the cdc florida governor to scientists later compared the crew situation to that faced by one florida's other big businesses theme parks in both cases. He said they have every right to make sure guests have a safe and enjoyable trip. All these other places have been cruising. That's work they've been able to do it well. But here's the thing if you're worried about americans and you think you should make the decisions for them. They're still going to cruise if they want to. They're just gonna cruise off a different coast for now if us residents wanted to take a cruise vacation this summer. They can fly to nassau bahamas. Bermuda saint martin or cyprus europe cruise lines have made no official comment on the
Can Netflix help solve the Isabella Stewart Gardner art heist?
"Now on the eighteenth of march nineteen ninety stole thirteen works of art including masterpieces by rembrandt and vermeer from the isabella stewart gardner museum in boston massachusetts. The extraordinary story of that night and thirty years of investigation and intrigue that followed the subject of a new four part series on netflix. Could this is a robbery. I spoke to jeff siegel producer of the series about the greatest art host in history. Jeff to begin with. Let's set the scene. What happened in march. Nineteen ninety at the golden museum in boston. So saint patrick's day night in boston march seventeenth into the eighteenth. Nineteen ninety two men dressed as police officers. Ring the doorbell for the security desk at the isabella stewart gardner museum and are buzzed in pretty quickly by the guard on duty and without much effort are able to lower the guard away from the security desk away from the only panic button leading to the outside world and are able to can him have him call down the other security guard who is on the rounds and you know in just a matter of minutes. Basically taking control over the whole museum fairly effortlessly it seems like The protocol was that that it shouldn't be that easy but it turned out to be that easy and the two men obviously turn out to. Police officers handcuffed the the two guards and tie them up down in the basement of the museum before going on and eighty one minute excursion through the museum and stealing thirteen pieces of art including a few masterworks. That are just unbelievably priceless. A rembrandt storm on the sea of galilee. Another rembrandt ladies and gentlemen in black. The vermeer one only thirty four thirty five in the world. The concert as well as the one of the more curious ones being the matinee stolen from the blue room downstairs the shea tour tony as well as a few other a few other items that are not necessarily of such great value monetarily or as well known which is part of. What's kind of confounding about what what was stolen there. They stole a five day. Gos- sketches but also a chinese who and the final from an opole jahic flag which are two items. That just don't a lot of people don't really seem to fit in with everything else that was stolen
Jeff Firewalker - Wisdom from a Musician and Medicine Man
"My guest is the amazing. Jeff fire walker schmidt and he is capable in like every single domain. It's extraordinary by the age of fifteen. He was running a research lab with a famous scientist. His now noted lecture and scientists in his a phd from oxford. He's also a chinese martial arts expert. He practices peruvian folk medicine in his one. Half of the brand new band saint disruption which is a new album dropping very weak. He and his notable band partner. John modesto from the legendary modesto martin and would met in a chance encounter in the amazon jungle. Her going to hear about some of those encounters in the amazon region. Here some of the wisdom that jeff brings from spirit to science and science to spirit and sample some the music that he's creating and why it's meaningful for this time. Welcome geoff so nice to be with you today. It is delightful to be with you. I'm excited to dive into your brain and your experiences for me to. Let's get going awesome. I know that you are a medicine man. And that is a rare title for a white man in the united states to have. Can you tell us a little bit about being a medicine man and what it means to you and how you got there absolutely well. First and foremost. I think that by way of perspective. It is something that one would never choose for themselves. It came to me as a complete left. Turn in my life and a complete surprise and actually an opportunity that i resisted on the personality and ego level. For some time. I knew enough to know that it would not be an easy path and i also came to realize that if i were to respond to the call of spirit in a good way that i would have much more of a chance of leading healthy happy life so i as many people do when they get the call i jumped and i very much enjoyed for many years and still do the right teachers showing up at the right
Woman recovering after rare windpipe transplant from donor
"A woman in New York has received an unusual transplant Sonea same says she spent the last six years trying to catch every breath every moment after extensive treatment for her severe asthma it's been so long that I didn't think it was the same is breathing freely again doctors at new York's Mount Sinai replaced her trachea the tube that connects air from the mouth to the lungs Dr Eric Gendron says the asthma treatment is what caused all the damage she had the two men for quite some time and it damaged the tracheal airway experts say it's too soon to say if saints transplant was a total success but she thinks it's a success but it's great that I was able to be doctors say this drastic operation could potentially help corona virus patients left with serious wind pipe damage from breathing machines I'm at Donahue
18-year-old man shot to death in Joliet, Chicago police say
"Year old man was shot to death while riding in a car in Joliet last night, according to police officers responded to a meet a Saint Joseph Medical Center for a report of a shooting victim. Just after 9:20 P.m.. It was determined that 18 year old Ron Jones had been shot while riding as a passenger in a car near Western and North Bluff Street. Jones was transported to the hospital by the driver and was pronounced dead shortly after arrival. The incident is currently under investigation.
Michael Imperioli On Acting, Success, And The Buddhist Path
"Michael welcome to the wisdom dommage chats. Thanks for having me so great. To have you get i was gonna Start off. I thought i'd start off by asking you how you got into buddhism. I was wondering whether it was a full. You become well known as an act. Taro aso at what point in. How did you get involved in buddhism. it was definitely after around two thousand seven during a right when the sopranos was ending the same year But i i i. I discovered buddhism. Through the writing of jack kerouac when i was like nineteen years old And i bought at saint mark's bookshop which is no longer there. Unfortunately but i bought a copy of the diamond sutra which i could not make heads or tails out of i mean it was way beyond me and i did not understand but there was something about whatever how would ever care wack talked about or whatever my perception of buddhism was. There was something there like. I i appreciate it for some reason and i wasn't looking for anything religious at the time that copy of the diamond sutra. Believe it or not. It stayed with me all these years after. Like twenty different addresses and moves and stuff. I still have it In wrote that book the scripture of the golden eternity which is poems really but he had an incredibly deep understanding of dharma and was a big practitioner of it for a very long time. You know unfortunately the end of his life you know he he kinda succumb to alcoholism and and I think it it Pulled him away from the dharma and his studies and his practice. I think but there was a time when he was very much into a great understanding of it. So flat fast forward. Many years. So i was nineteen. This book kinda sat on my shelf for years
"saints" Discussed on Leading Saints Podcast
"This i'm referring to like sisters who maybe don't have as many opportunities to be in leadership roles or individuals outside the same ten people dynamic the people who are typically called or typically considered it. Can it can feel the sting can be more intense for those individuals because they feel like they've been classified into certain group. That's maybe not as chosen as others. So let me read this Email from a sister about this about this dynamic from the perspective of a sister. I've been enjoying this series on influencing especially conversation. You had with gary miller on the podcast. I have had similar thoughts feelings and struggles about aspiring as someone who loves an opportunity to speak teach and lead any chance i get. I'm also a woman which interestingly adds another dynamic to my leadership struggle in the church. Because i will never be called to be a bishop stake president or otherwise though i would love the opportunity under different circumstances. I'm also a mother which means the majority of my influence is spent with little people who don't appreciate it and i have very little time to create influence or develop my skills for influence elsewhere. Maybe you can begin to see how. This struggle multiplies in womanhood. Additionally i've applied to the seminary is to program because i am a qualified public schoolteacher thinking that i could have the desired influence with students but alas because that opportunity is given the inspiration much like a calling. That didn't work out either. I remember listening to a conference talk. Not many years ago where the speaker invited us to be ambitious for christ. I nearly fell out of my hair. That's it. That's exactly how i would describe my feeling. I just want to be ambitious for christ but honestly that's not very easy when they stick you in nursery. I never say no to a calling. And i tried to magnify each one but i'm just trying not to sugar coat this okay. I didn't start out writing this email to tell you all this nor did i begin writing with strong emotion but it's frankly difficult not to feel some bitterness.
"saints" Discussed on Leading Saints Podcast
"As stressful. You lose sleep and on and on. so why. Why would anybody even want that calling or want leadership calling. Just gonna add more to their plate. Well according in i timothy three one that says if a man desire the office of bishop he desires that. Good work right there. It is a phenomenal work. I'll take a little bit more about this. That it is a remarkable work like yemi time as a bishop was taxing grueling difficult and men. Life's shirt became more simple once that was released but it was phenomenal. Like i literally sat across the desk watching the savior transform. People's lives like it was remark much as one of many of the miracles eyewitness on a constant basis right. But here's this. let me let me take it in a different direction with this of. Why would anybody want to lead while. There's this Some there's this organizational dissonance that crept up in our culture. The purpose of the church of the restored gospel is remarkable. I mean can we just all agree on that like stepping back and looking at what the church is trying to do or what god is trying to do through the church. I mean that is remarkable when you consider the ordinances when you consider the saving when you consider the connecting people to the grace of christ like okay. That's phenomenal right. This is my work and the glory. Glory to bring pass the internal life. This is my work. My glory to bring to pass the immortality journal life of man like okay. You win the eternal reward for best mission statement. Okay it is phenomenal now. Naturally remarkable mission a- dynamic vision will naturally produce grand engagement or the desire to be involved there. When i see a mission that speaks to my soul like does okay. What like where do i need. Where where do i sign up. How can i be more involved can work weekends. Like what more. Can i do to make sure this vision comes to pass right. But we have this organizational dissonance when we speak of this grand vision but we also sort.
"saints" Discussed on Leading Saints Podcast
"And being willing to be real and not just the who in fine. No really. I want to help you know i'm fine. You know like the okay to not be fine but then also that person opportunities to serve back so there were not just pigeonholing people as the needy people. This is not helping anybody. So when you get the i'm fine everything's okay we're great and maybe we've we've hit on this already but any advice you'd get like how do you like. What if you are the ministering brother sister and you're just like i want to get in solidarity people but they're not letting me. Yeah right absolutely working to what he beats not a good point breath. You're ministering assignment right a little bit. You know i understand the need for signing these things. I would encourage people to dive more into natural. Fits for ministering silence and sticking with them and talking to people about what's working. What's not working. What do you need what you need in your ministering assignments so that's part of it but the other part is these things take time right and sure. Maybe you don't want to have someone coming over to your house once a month but maybe you need to be willing to explore that car that and do it in a new way. This is not just you checking up on me and seeing where. I'm you know maybe this is where we can just joined in friendship and have a mutual conversation and accept your rebuke battle and maybe uncomfortable. But maybe that's what it takes to get a solid area getting to know people right. So maybe that's the focus and maybe when they say. Now what do i need. We've got to be better a learning what we need. We focus so much on other people's needs in this church that we don't know what we need your true. We need some times. I don't know what i need. And if you don't know at the time it's okay to say no i i don't even know. That's a great response. I don't know what i need right now. I am so glad to know that you care and if something occurs to me i will let you now. You know and if someone is telling me. I don't need anything i'll say. Yeah you can say. I get it. It's hard to know what we need now. And i love the concept of disorder looking. Just mix it up a little bit. And and i can see in the future maybe instead when i sort of tired of them just coming and visiting once. Not what we like. You know what we could do next month. Why don't my wife doesn't enjoy going to movies. I love going to movies. You come to a movie with me as what we're going to do and then there might just a different context and may spark something. I think this is the magic of administering. The switched ministering brought home teaching a visiting teaching that. We're missing out on your the freedom to do it. The way that serves us and that's why it can become ministering because we're actually doing reminding those needs in a different way right. Let's go for a walk. Let's do something we don't have to sit and do it in a living room anymore so if somebody wants to connect with you learn more about what you do where would you send them so right now. While i'm still constructing my website. I would say i'm on facebook jenna johnson spangler and sosa message. We can connect that way you can find me professionally at symmetry. So l. s. dot com. And you can connect to me from coaching services and other things there but if you're interested in i'm totally open in the salt lake city area the wasatch front if you want to have become talk to a group Fireside do firesides about doubts and questions. And i do it about just connecting and relationship and and these kinds of issues and just deepening our christian journey. That's kind of my wheelhouse so less cushioning have it's probably too much of a softball but it's sincere question. But how has your quest of understanding solidarity made you better disciple follower of jesus. Christ yeah in so many ways you know solidarity is something bed invites. It's not a solitary journey anymore. It's not just about me right. And that's the beauty of christianity. The beauty is that it's not just about me. It gets me outside myself which gets me outside of my own little suffering my own little life and gets me into something connection with something bigger. That's inspirational and so with solidarity. It has completely changed the way that i see service in the church personally because i always have this on my mind to say how can i were deeply. Honor this person. How can i get to know them. Get outside myself on my own ways of seeing things and meet someone where they are and that does nothing but bring me more connection in my relationships more meaning in my relationships and creates a space. Where both of us were me. And the people that i'm working with uncertain can feel more readily probe loves adverse savior. That concludes my interview with janna spangler. Lots of thoughts of perspectives. On this right and i would be willing to bet. There's probably some angles or points of view that were shared here that maybe you don't fully embrace erred. Maybe disagree with a little bit. And that's okay. These discussions are worth having their worth exploring and seeing what we can learn. I hope you've learned something. I'd love to hear from you. What perspective you have around this concept of solidarity or service. How can we better get to this point. Is it necessary. Or maybe services just enough. I'd love to hear from you can go to leading saints dot org slash contact or leave a comment on the post on the leading saints dot org website. And let's keep this discussion going. Because i think there's some rich some rich flavor in in a discussion that may be can help us expand our efforts as latter day saints. You know of anybody else that we should reach out to an interview. I'd love to hear it. So go to leading saints dot org slash. Contact sends a message. Maybe a prep the person that you're volunteering that you're putting their name in so that we can more easily start that conversation and i would love to have more conversations like this to see how we can better lead as latter day saints and remember if you know someone who'd be a great fit for the how i lead segment go to leading saints dot org.
"saints" Discussed on Leading Saints Podcast
"Today i'm in holiday utah in the home of jenny. Spangler how are you. I'm doing well good now. You were recently recently. Interviewed you for the questioning saints. Virtual summit was a phenomenal discussion of people. Haven't heard it they need to Go check it out and a lot to learn there. And i don't know if it was before or after our conversation you brought up this idea and i think it may be inter woven into our discussion and i thought oh my goodness that sounds awesome. And it's around this concept of solidarity verse service yet but before we jump into that maybe just give us a brief background of who you are and why you even have anything to sail topic. Okay so my name is janice spangler. I live in holiday with my husband and three kids. I am a life coach and i work for symmetry solutions and we are a group of therapists and coaches. Who help people with a variety of things but my specialty is in working with people who are having challenges to their faith people who have doubts and questions and it's causing all kinds of problems with their identity in their relationships and and they work with a lot of mixed eighth couples people whereabouts rocking their world when it comes to their marriage and other things. So that's the work. I do and another thing about me. I am a graduate of the living school which is a program run by the center for action and contemplation and the director of that. School is richard rohr. He's a catholic priest and basically there. I studied all about contemporary of christianity. The roots of christianity christian thought and how it affects our walk through the world and how we engage with the world and to do good and to do the work of christianity. So that has really influenced the way that i look at a lot of things and giving me some unique perspectives. Yeah i think just your history and also your own personal faith journey. Yes the you went through and now you've not that it's all over. Always all of us are sort of navigating faith to subject areas now arrival. Point haven't is for you but nonetheless you're definitely at a point where you've you've you you're in the church you're active you're encouraging on latter day saints in and helping and i'm so glad people like you are out there that because when somebody does go through you know what we probably misnomer the faith crisis when they go through that could that they have individuals who may be exposed himself in coastal to that so absolutely. Everyone needs to be heard. That's my my biggest mantra in all of this is everyone needs the right to be able to do their faith journey the way that that god is calling them to do it and so when that gets messy and complicated were not always equipped knowing how to help people through it. Yeah and so. I'm offering a space where people can work through that and be honest and bring all of the good bad and ugly and have a place to work through that has it's been really beneficial to my life and i just thrilled to offer that to other people. Yeah so let's the ship into this topic of service and solidarity. Let me maybe set up a hypothetical and is one that we're all familiar with you. Know we have a strong tradition of service church. That's christianity rights. No surprises part of our ladder. Saint faith and even our ministering program the teaching visiting teaching type of program where were signed to families. We started their on paper. Like we get it like okay. What if they're sick were there if they need something were there. We'll go visit them so every so often and check in with them see if they need anything and it's one of those things like There's a brilliant program like why aren't more churches sort of organize this way and then it just becomes awkward in the application at times where you know. Okay the ministering brothers or here come on in and sort of this awkward exchange and then the famous words of is there anything we can do for you and they all know we're fine you know even though maybe your marriage is on fire. Whatever you know and and it's just this awkward exchange at times. Where like i really wanna help you. But i don't know how you don't seem to let me in and another example l. share that i've shared before as a few years ago. My mom win for screening and they found a the beginning of of some breast cancer and was really early on. I mean thank goodness. She did other things going to check ups and required minor surgery. It was done and and choose on her way. And i remember having this conversation of like she. She intentionally didn't. Maybe i should make anonymous. My mom's going to mandate here but she initially didn't notify her ministering sisters not that she didn't want to but you know she has four children in the area. We were more than enough support. And she didn't want to cause other people to fuss about her in her situation she was she really was and she's been good ever since right. And so there's this dynamic where we sort of feel obligated to tell people like i'm going through this thing i guess you're supposed to do some form even if i don't need it and even for myself my own life i know i'm rambling here but i'm gonna point but in my own life i sort of. I don't need the in person visit even once a month twice a month or every other month he just doesn't do much for me but nonetheless i sort of feel obligated sort of our faith tradition. Yeah come on and let's have a conversation. Whatever the interview screaming but whatever you know so start us off your what do you need understand about what is solidarity. And what is service and How do they contrast yeah so just to back up a little bit this this kind of started to on me at a living school because they talk a lot about this these ideas of solidarity versus service or charity and and how that works were were trying to help people on the margins right but as i learned these concepts started thinking about these situations that you're talking about rate and how awkward it can be in ministering and and one of the things that came to me was just the awareness that everyone in the church we love especially in relief society. We love to serve and we hate to be served albeit tasks role any day of the week. And right so right right. Yeah and we love it and we feel so good when we're able to give the casserole when we're able to know i mean i can guarantee that the ministering sisters were assigned to your mother when they find out that this thing had happened. Well why didn't you tell us. It's this missed opportunity for us to bring the casserole right and another thing that brought this to my attention is just going through a really dark time of heavy questions about church myself and my own journey. I felt so alone in that. And so there's this dichotomy were so good when someone has something we can see when they lose someone to you know just illness or you know someone passes away when someone is going through a hard time to some extent you know even financially but that's typically only the dish the nose or you know whatever but when we're going through some really physical hard times we were we're so good this is where the strength of our networks come like it's amazing and you do wonder why don't more churches do. This is amazing. The support we give to another. The downside is when you're going through marital problems when you do have a porn addiction when you are going through countless other problems face trials whatever you name it. Yeah we don't want anyone to know that we don't want people to know when we're depressed. We don't want. We do not want people to know these things. And so as i learned about solidarity versus service and this distinction that they were making in school i saying i started to started to dawn on me. This is an awareness that could be so helpful us as lonnie saints. Because i've never even really. I mean i've heard the word solidarity. Not not.
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"I think the first one. I listened to was a couple. I believe the packer family. They're sending daughter-in-law talking about their experience of their faith changing and how they as parents and family found understanding and love. The parents were mission presidents in africa. I believe at the time the sun a medical student with a young family. Their story was so helpful to know we were not alone to gain insight and perspective and ideas and inspiration of how to become in our own family. I'm a bishop. And i had a mother of my ward who is a gospel doctrine teacher. She texted me morning telling me she's having a faith crisis and wanted to be released. I had found these two podcasts earlier. And knew i needed to share them with her. I already did. And she's going to start listening to them on the way home from work today. Your podcast has made my calling as bishop so much better than i am. A culture changer. Now hut love that and again. I just loved it. Were giving leaders resources to turn to write content deterred to that they can maybe send onto somebody rather than try and say it again and again and again the same way every person that may be goes through this next testimonial i just completed watching the lgbt's saints virtual summit and my heart is so full of compassion and love for this community. I have a cousin who came home a few years ago from his mission early and then shortly after came out. I'm from a small prominent. Lds community in the middle of nowhere. The cousin of course left his home quickly after coming out. Probably for safety reasons as well as others to go explore his identity. I have always felt uncomfortable with not knowing what to say or not say to him or his parents. I even debated on following him on facebook. Because i didn't like seeing pictures of him with his boyfriend and i was very judgmental and hoping he would find himself and be normal again. Your summit is exactly what i needed. I felt like. I learned so much and have much repenting to do with how i have thought about my lgbt brothers and sisters. I feel so ashamed for my ignorance and lack of even wanting to know more because of your summit i reached out to my cousin and expressed my desire to learn how to be a better human from him and if he felt comfortable would he share his journey with me. So i could understand more. I haven't heard a response yet and my palms are sweating. And i'm nervous is not like i chat with him all the time but i hit send so there's no turning back now again. Those are just a handful of testimonials that come through. And i. Maybe i need to find a better way to share those but we are having a dramatic impact on our community and i want to move this mission fort and the reality is we need your help now. I know many view even nucor leaders are listening thinking. Oh well i give already. And that's great and man. We are so thankful and if you haven't felt gratitude from us would you reach out to me and let me. I'd never want that.
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"In there. That email will come to me. And we'll start the conversation. And i also want to take the time to effectively illustrate if i can't be impossible for me to do this completely but we communicate just the impact. We are having okay for several months this year. We've had two hundred and fifty downloads. A month to the podcast. Now we can't really track subscribers and exact people or how long they're listening are all these things but the download you can. You can hit even if he listened through a through chrome web browser and you listen through that and didn't necessarily download it still counts in that download can a quarter of a million downloads around the world. People every month listening to the continent leading states surf you to do the calculation of at that number and how many wards and stakes that represents that would be about. We're speaking to a eight hundred and thirty wards every month and about one hundred and twenty stakes every month now. that's back of the napkin type of calculation. But just to give an idea. Eight hundred and thirty wards one hundred and nineteen or one hundred and twenty stakes now. An agreement goes beyond that because this aren't just everyday leaders that were talking to sure. There's a lot in our audience who don't necessarily have leadership calling but these are leaders that are listening. Consider the impact that we're having on the church as a whole by reaching that type of audience and we can do so much more right so the impact is real. it's there and i wanna read a few testimonials that just really touched my heart. And i get five or so of these a week of just emails and if and if you wouldn't mind sending me an email i would love that. Just tell me how leading says impacted you. Tell me how it's changed you what's worked. What hasn't give me feedback. Whatever it is but these testimonials really keep going in you know. They're hard to take to the bank and cash in but nonetheless they keep us going this. This is wrong motivation for us. So here's a few leading. Saints is been a lifeline for me. The last six months since i found it. I can't thank you enough for what you do. Here's another. I have never really supported any group or individual besides my regular church contributions but you are the exception to my rule. I happened across your podcast. One day do not remember the exact circumstance. But i was impressed with what you were doing. I began to follow leading saints on a regular basis. And after your summit on pornography. I was sold on what you were doing in recovery from addiction myself. The quality and accuracy of information at the summit was impressive. I do not think that. I have ever been disappointed by podcast. Always informative and many times moved by the spirit hearing from real people that are dealing with or have overcome major obstacles in their lives is always inspiring. You doing a great work with leading saints. And i tell.
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"But the small donors we try and create value exchange value for value. We have the core leader library with full of pass virtual summits we have a separate podcast stream which were working on getting fixed at moment but it is there and we try and create additional value there but as i've surveyed all the core leaders by far everybody says That's great that you give you know the core leader library and all these other things. But i simply want to donate because i want to support the mission. I wanna help you. I wanna help The board of directors. I want to help this community growth so that we can stimulate more productive more effective leadership in our religious community. Right so sure. There's are there additional things. But i'm not gonna do on those because i don't think that's why people are donating. They simply want to contribute and make this possible and then a larger donors. We need to be in touch with people who can write for figure. Five figure six figure checks and Who have the resources to do that. Or maybe a foundation that it's able to do that We would love to make those connections so if you're if you're listening out there maybe you've a sold three companies and You know you're you're retired in your in your forties or whatever and you could write a big beautiful jack. Would you reach out to me like i. i will take any conference. Any phone call with anybody was willing to to sit down and understand our mission and to help us out. Because i guess i don't want this to come across it like oh. Kurt needs more core leaders. So yeah i'll go help them out. Contribute fifty dollars a month. Which would be great. We'll take it. But also i don't want you to think well if you could. Do you know twenty thousand a year. I don't want you just default to that to fifty dollars a month so hopefully that makes sense but the reality is if everything was to go in twenty twenty one just like it went and twenty twenty. We probably need as we've gotten together as a board of directors who probably need an additional one hundred thousand dollars to keep things going now on the surface seemed like. Wow that's a lot but you know there's podcast and organizations that that require that much much more you know many or of my contemporaries that have our nonprofit third party organizations probably have a budget of.
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"Financially. We cannot continue on as we are doing right now. And so the board of leading saints come together and and wise mines thinking through how we could better fundraise reach out to large donors. We could better finance this mission because again there's no mission without margin and we definitely have to figure out how to meet that margin every year so this is how the financial model of leading saints is currently working. We have what are called core leaders. And you're probably familiar with these. The are subscribing donor so individuals either donate to leading saints on a monthly quarterly or yearly basis. That is what we consider a cord leader and those are awesome. I mean i can't thank you enough for the core leaders out there to Contribute to give part of your monthly budget to leading saints so that we can continue on we have about Just over eleven hundred core leaders and again we get as many as a quarter of a million downloads a month to the podcast that we have eighteen thousand people on her email list right so but nonetheless we only have a hundred core leaders again. I'm thankful for every last one of them but we definitely need more help there. What we're doing right now. Is the virtual summits supplement. What the core leaders. Don't meet right so if we only had core leaders we we'd be done a long time ago as far as at the rate of how many leaders we have right now. There's just not enough to do what it is. We do and de just won't work and so we supplement those donations through our virtual summits and our virtual summits do help us get a shot in the arm of funds. That make it happen. There are a lot of work. They're great. I love him. We plan on continuing to do them. And i'll talk about that maybe a minute but it's just it's just not enough that especially because we've hit some of the larger topics right. We've talked about teaching. We've talked about helping individuals through pornography addiction. We've talked about to lgbt latter day saints right like these are large topics that get a lot of attention when we do these summits but they they're done and of course we'll keep adding to them the be made available again and again and hopefully we'll be able to continue to raise some funds from those but as far as those that large that large financial. Sean the arm the future summits we do. We anticipate that they are not going to have as much of a hit right. So we're gonna do a virtual about Leading young saints. You know young people how to lead them how to not just for adults leading them but how do their peers lead each other..
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"Heart dot com and check out when the next one is obviously we had to postpone a few because of covid but The women's retreat. They also have a women's organization attached to that and these these are phenomenal. Go back and we'll linked to those episodes in the show notes Get more on that but other than that. I don't see any or specific retreat in our future. But if you have some ideas. I'd love to hear what about Moderated forums where people with the similar callings are leadership responsibilities can ask questions and and create discussion. So this is the i mentioned before This is definitely a community building effort that we hope to establish twenty twenty one to give you more of a formal a forum to discuss again. Go to leading. Saints helpers on facebook and there's discussion there but again it's just not as dynamic as i'd like it to be there's more we could do to really zero in on certain topics or callings or experiences. That would help. So that's coming. So this person asks leading from as far as leading from the bottom up in other words how someone with a smaller calling or no calling can still lead. So i wrote a whole. Pdf on this. If you go to you can text the word lead to four seven. Four seven four seven. And it'll send you a link to a page. Where has a has an article called how to lead when you're not a leader. I think it's something like that. I forget the exact title and that's probably a good place to start. But that's a whole discussion topic on their own. But we do have there. And i would encourage you that. If you're not a leader he should still act like a leader and a man. We got some good content coming up around that so check it there. This person says i'm curious about your whole podcast process. How do you get. How do you get and schedule interviews. How do you prepare for the interviews. What techniques do you use to help the interviews flow. Editing and other things are doing behind the scenes so the short answer is if you go to follow us on instagram. I try and be everyday at trying to be proactive of sharing behind the scenes stuff. What i'm working on. Who i'm interviewing Episodes to expect or content to expect. And so that's a good place to start but as far as the process. You know we all we get emails a lot and we encourage people to send in recommendations of people we should talk to men but there's only fifty or so episodes a year that we have to be very specific gun who we put on there and sometimes even there's some really good people that we don't we don't get on the podcast so but keep sentiment so we get a lot of suggestions that way. Just yesterday i got in touch with a sibling of someone who is in general presidency of the church..
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"It's an app right or an organization that has a great app right and there is so much we can do with an app to give you just the rough ballpark as far as what it would take to get a solid app. That's not going to break every other day that i will use digital email me about in frustration. It's gonna take an investor about fifty to sixty thousand dollars just to get the app go and then maintenance is much lower than that but We're just not there yet. Bowed loved to to be there. I would love to create nap. The just phenomenal and a more helpful and able to help you to to peruse content fine content tag content that it's going to help you in specific situation. So that's in the future but it's just all about raising money and having a finances to do that next question. Have you thought about doing some sort of fireside workshop trading tour you could hold polls for where to do them and go to the most requested places so this is interesting obviously. There's current restrictions as far as travel that. Make them more difficult you know. Obviously you can travel. I don't think there's anywhere there's few places. I could go to have an event and have a lot of people. Come just because we're sorta shut down right now right but definitely in the future and we've done in the past is i've I've traveled to colorado to california to where else back east more in talked to someone in south carolina. A to come out. And do you know. I've done firesides and And workshop type things and it's great and we do you know we can always do him inside the church. If it's a official leading saints event done firesides where i've been asked to come and speak and i don't mention or talk about leading saints but we talked about certain principles that are gospel related. People seem to appreciate him. So i'd be happy to come anywhere in the world deeply helps if someone has a place for us to stay and So we can supplement some of those casa make it really cheap but i love traveling different.
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"Too as far as what do you do when you are that person who is trapped under may be what you define as poor leadership you know. There's various things we can do in there still opportunities to lead. But if we can't force anybody to listen to podcasts we can't mandate and so we'll just keep creating content. And maybe at some point and i hear about this all the time so many leaders find it or they've heard about it before but didn't really look into it. Then they find it. Start binge listening to past episodes and get caught up. But let's just keep praying for him because they really are doing the best that they can next question. How do we adapt to changing. World conditions without acting outside leaders. Guidance is a good question. I mean that's their. That's a similar question. I've heard before with you all these great ideas. But what if the idea that i have. According to the principle is outside the realm of the handbook or my bishop does want to do it. Right again we go back to that. Fourth pillar that we celebrate divine guidance and sometimes that divine guidances in a direction that maybe leadership scholars would would not agree with. But i would argue that. There is so much wiggle room is you read closely. Handbooks are so much more we could do to really make a difference in shift a culture of an organization that to me. This isn't even an issue like this isn't there's no barrier that would really holds a leader back from being a dynamic leader and one that causes positive cultural change next question. So what's on the docket for twenty twenty one. What is leading saints mission in preparing for the second coming how much happens as exposure or business or feedback and how much happens as inspiration. So this is a good question. I mean at the end of the day leading saints is an organization. We are a inc company right of nonprofit business and so yeah there is a business upon it too much of what we do right..
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"Come for me. We don't see us as an organization that now has to go out and figure out how that's done. How to effectively do that again. We may touch on that. But we don't see that as core to our mission but we will go out and find certain principles right. So of family centered. Church supported. effort is going on. We may go out and say well. How does a mother and a father have really effective discussions with a child regardless of what the topic is right. And i'm seeing take those principles and apply them to come. Follow me or this. This family centered approach trite. But we generally don't come out with like the ten step guide to do family centered. Church supported again. You'll probably find a few articles that may be lean that way but if they do it's mainly just to grab some search engine optimization and maybe a little click beatty so that people can actually clicking consume the content i apologize. I'm a marketer sigh. Kind of do that stuff. This is very a current question. The question is with home centered. Church and virtual church where many people can't perform callings like they used to how can leading saints stay relevant and of use because six months of not being useful can lose a lot of interest and people move on to find resources that are relevant to the now and i felt like this recently. Like i'm holding onto leading saints for some reason. When i could easily just let it go as if it doesn't serve the same purpose now as it did one to two years ago so this was an interesting question because i obviously what they're getting at. Is you know you talk about leadership but this is different now it's it's home centered or it's a yet since centered home centered. Church is what they say right and it seemed like back in the summer or right after the shutdown the pandemic sort of flared up. We did try and focus on some very focused pandemic content now. There wasn't a lot of dry areas to go in my opinion somebody descru- without but in so we then shifted back to again. Just being more principle focused and some of those discussions did sound. Like you know this what you do when you meet for sunday school in the sunday school room at church in it's hard to relate to that now we don't do this perfectly but we always strive to stay principle..
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"Of divine leadership and recognized that all leadership direction yields to this divine source. So it's fun to talk about leadership different principles interview authors who have perspective for the end of the day we as we know in our doctor and we default to those priests keys. Now there's a lot we can talk about around that but it is a beautiful thing that even though we might have the research even though there's a right or wrong way to approach the situation we may feel a reprieve leader or a any. You know any leader acting under the direction of priesthood keys. They may fill certain prompting they may have an the spirit that leads them a different direction. And yeah all. The leadership scholars will look at that and shake their heads and thing. Now no no. That's not how you do it. But we celebrate that that divine guidance exists and that it should definitely be employed in this effort to be better leaders to lead more effectively. So that is what we are. We connect leaders. We tried and has leadership ability. We present leadership scholarship and we celebrate divine guidance of priesthood keys. So anything else that fits under that. We just don't do not. I'm gonna get into some questions that may be will help you for the understand. Why these why these four pillars are so crucial. But i think the best way to summarize all that is that we're not a training organization. We are a community of leaders and we try and stimulate a community of leaders online through the modern day technology so that we can learn from one another and again be better prepared to lead so that community is truly what we what we aim for. And i'll tell you we have some great some great ideas some things we're looking onto stimulate that community giving it more resources you know right now we have the leading. Saints helpers group on facebook that we get some good discussion there. It's not as organized as i'd like it to be and so we're looking into some technologies and applications that are helpless really stimulate the that community so that we can help each other out and move forward and see improved ability in the leadership realm for latter day saints alright so i recently asked through various social media platforms. What questions the audience had. And i gathered a handful of these and that that will answer and again if you aren't following us on on facebook on instagram on lincoln. Twitter really is helpful..
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"That's not what we do primarily because that's not our place to do anything that's the that's the church's role to train officially trained their leaders. Right now i get some of your thinking. Yeah but we don't get any training. Well maybe so but hopefully some of these principles can inspire leaders in your area to seek out you know or put together their own training. Maybe a bishop will hear some principles or read a book and say you know what we need to talk to our word council about how to more effectively minister how to do a home visit or how to address the culture in our work right and then the bishop can go ahead and create the training that he sees fit for his organization. But we as leading saints. We're not a training organization but we do try and enhance leadership. Ability and price sounds more about semantics. But we definitely don't want to leave ourselves as a training organization pillar number three. We present leadership scholarship. We seek out leadership scholars to help latter day. Saints have the most relevant and current research in order to overcome any organizational hurdle. So this is where we bring the experts in right obviously pillar one. We're trying to connect leaders but we're not always connecting you to leaders who are experts. Sometimes they're just everyday leaders who figure something out and it's interesting to hear their perspective but we also strive to find those the scholarship out there. The people who've done the research studies have written a book or have put more time and effort into really to really defusing a leadership problem that we might see in our leadership in the church right and so we reach out to those scholars or those experts and interview amon hopefully that that research that expertise will inspire you to maybe better understand an issue right about pornography addiction or understanding issue about the sexual abuse. Whatever it is and from there you can take it in research more and hopefully again improve your leisure ability and then our last pillar is an obvious one..
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"Like i said and we got married and moved out of that war tonight. Sort of left that experience after it was about nine nine months to a year i left that experience feeling discouraged. You know i. I really thought it was going to make a difference and nothing really happened. A wealth whatever we moved on and then before we knew we were moving into this ward in south salt lake. And i was called into the bishopric served a few years in the bishopric and then that bishop was released and i was called as the high priest group leader and during that time when that call came i thought no like here we go again. I'm going to try really hard. I'm going to make try and make a difference but is it worth it like. Is the effort worth it. What's the point. And i couldn't understand why i could walk into any bookstore. Barnes and noble. Look on amazon. Wherever i could walk in any bookstore and there'd be bookshelves full of life leadership business leadership family ship. I mean everybody was talking about leadership in some context but nobody was really talking about best practices of leaders in the church right. You know how to run a meeting. How to mentor. Someone threw an addiction how to how to interview somebody right like nobody was really talking about the tangible tactics and skills and how to be a better leader and i thought you know. I'm not a leadership expert by any means but maybe i could create a platform to bring the experts to sit him down and say okay. Walk us through this principle. What are we missing what we need to learn. And so i went out and bought the domain name leading. Lds dot com and there. It began as a blog and really the beginning. Ingle back to those early articles that i wrote. I try not even though. I'm terribly embarrassed by many of them. I don't i don't delete them just because i think they show where where we've come a as an organization. I read a book like I've got it right here. Daniel pink's drive the surprising. Truth about what motivates people and. I would read the book yet. I pinpoint certain principles and research. That he'd study that i write an article about how that applies to the latter day saint world and leading in the church right and there. It went. That was in two thousand ten when we started when i started the blog and little by little it grew and by two thousand fourteen. Podcasting was becoming a thing and i thought you know. I've a lot of experience public speaking. I feel comfortable behind a mic. So why don't i give that a go and through help of many people understanding that technology the software the equipment. I started the podcast in two thousand fourteen and by two thousand sixteen. We became a nonprofit organization. And that's really where i went. Full time with leading saints and here. We are now in twenty twenty so and during that time i was i went from being the high group..
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"Leading saints dot org great content and and he just we'd love it so this is a solo episode. Just me folks. Sorry to disappoint you expert on the line no author just me but hopefully i can deliver some value and give you a a perspective on the future of leading saints. What we expect in twenty twenty. One i'm excited for it. There's so much opportunity. So many great interviews that i already have re recorded some that. I will have recorded soon. And i'm sure remarkable individuals that i'll meet in the future that will add to our perspective as a community at leading saints and before we get to the meat of this episode. I wanted to just give a tribute to a past guest of saints and this is how this came to be i Was a home doing the dishes. Actually that's right. Got to do my part around here and doing the dishes on my phone. Rank picked it up and it was a sweet lady. Ed that was requesting some details about her contribution to leading saints so i went to my computer and ask for her emails. I look up Her account and look at her into her question and the email she gave me was one. I recognized it. Was the email of david farnsworth. And i said oh. Well i've i've interviewed your husband before on leading saints and if you're not familiar with that episode you've got to check it out we'll put it in the show notes but it is becoming a master interviewer and with an interview with david farnsworth and anyways she then told me that He just a few months ago passed away and my heart broke. He was such a remarkable mentor. As somebody who in this is how. I originally met david. I was I got an email one day. That just said i've been listening to your podcast. I can make you a better injury or let me know if you're interested in. I was like man. I'm always open to feedback especially someone with some experience that to make me a better interviewer..
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"Was colds right. At the beginning of the pandemic this was kind of my first big leadership position in the church and really in life in general i. I didn't really know what i was doing. And the pandemic it. Just make things more crazy you know. Listening to leading saints has helped me stay focused and give me some really great ideas and especially like the release decided content late just being able to jump into their be like. Hey what should i do. What our life. Top ten things should i start with. I really helped out a ton went into you. You know how to do ministering interviews. Are they really connect with some with these ladies. Because i felt many times. I was too young to really talk to some of these older ladies and just being a little uncomfortable. So like deanna. Murphy's hard caster episode was amazing and really changed the way that i did everything i went from night today. I totally changed the format. And everything told my counselors how to do it. Had melissa threaten been great l. o. World this is the leading saints. Podcast my name is kurt. Frank i'm your host Welcome you back. If you're new to leading saints let me tell you about what we are and who we are and and what we do here see. We're a nonprofit organization dedicated helping latter-day saints be better prepared to lead and so through this. Podcast we talk all things. Leadership in the context of being a latter day. Saint may be. It's for a specific calling or just leading Home or just being better disciple of jesus christ because i truly believe good leadership is good discipleship and whether we're leading ourselves or others and we have a great website leading saints dot org be sure you're on the newsletter that we send out every week and you can go to leading saints or go to the about page. You'll get it all if you're a ship. I don't know if you know this you can go to leading saints dot org slash bishop and there is a plethora of content if you are a president. I think we have a slash elder scored president and at least study president do slash relief society. And you'll find all sorts of content or you go to leading saints dot org whatever calling voire and right at the top. There's some buttons related to your calling that you could click on and find more episodes to help you lead. Were effectively now. This episode we talk with jeff harbach. Who is a president and ceo of kauffman fellows which he'll tiller but more about that business organization but essentially help Venture capitalist be better venture capitalist and they also do some venture. Capital is well. And if you don't know what a venture capitalist is like shark tank but there's out there that are do what you see on charting. They invest in companies that have potential and hopefully get a return on that. And so i always love to talk with professionals who also happen to be leaders in the church because jeff is also a bishop in austin texas. And naturally you're going to pull leadership principles from your professional life into your religious life and vice versa. And so we talk about this and he gives some remarkable advice articulate. Some wonderful principles leaders can think about in when you're leading in a world of uncertainty because we're in december or december of twenty twenty. I bet other years by this time you had like the full calendar of the next year was all planned out what activities maybe themes and visions and whatever it is but now you're like I don't know like should even plan on anything. I think we can just take week to week right but no that is not. What dynamic leaders do you've got to establish vision even when it's uncertain and jeff gives us some great points in tips and perspectives to do that now for youth leaders. He gives some remarkable examples that have worked in his area. And you may find those helpful to hear this. Obviously what the other youth leaders are doing and so.