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02:39 min | 3 years ago

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"We're going to help me. Still John really stuck with Tyler, despite the irritations of game more and more work helped him out with more and more money. Kept track of his court appointments on the calendar hired him a lawyer accompanied him to court, gave him lectures and advice, though it could sometimes field John like a one-way street. On the phone, one time I asked John a lame question about him in Tyler, but the way he responded stayed with me. Do you think you guys relationship is more of a friendship or more of a paternal relationship? What you want it to say, but she didn't come out and say it is, is your couch relationship more of a friendship or more of a usership? No, it actually wasn't what I wanted to say. It's will you wanted to say apparently What do you say that you do say that? What are your pissed off? The two in the day of mourning. And you know he South Florida today. I'm drunk. See, This isn't the first time I pull this stuff. I could keep you on this phone for hours with another case for the name of Michael floor. John brings up this name, Michael Fuller in the last conversation. He and I ever have A little more than a week before he killed himself. He doesn't reveal a ton about him. Just the Michael was a 20-something guy. John. It also kind of taken under his wing years ago when he was much younger himself. Unlike Tyler, John says, Michael came from a family professionals, A Polk good family, but was rebellious. Didn't hang with the best of influences. You know, he was gonna be out with that while crowd party and hang out at Senior frogs and the question Ollie's damn discos and two dollars day I'm Doug Cope. They just made a career out of going to jail. He would be the about forty five now. And the last time I heard from him, He was live. Up there and your neck who Woods playing some eighteen hundred dollars a month to live in some scruffy apartment that didn't even have a damn bathroom and he was sacked. It was some them'do Argentine girl. It was bringing a high-powered pot. So yeah, I've seen the shit before. John felt like he sailed with Michael, And he worried he was about to fail with Tyler to us having a very good track record for what is it? After John died, I found Michael Fuller in New York City Call them to set up the time to visit. And what I walked into Is this bleak scene say Iraq. Say that suffer. Nobody has based on from.

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03:16 min | 3 years ago

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"You're throwing error Garrick V for God down some kind of criminal with all the others unless all Member. Well, no, I don't concern myself with them. Criminal or marine. Hello, Don't do nothing but work and take your kids. The feud was wearing on Tyler too. That Sunday night when I spoke to his grandmother on the phone, The Night She in tatters mother were freaking out that the judge my thrown in jail the next day. Well, that didn't happen. Tyler paid his thousand dollar bond and remained free right now. His forgery and theft case is scheduled to go to trial in early summer. He says, he sees nothing wrong with the measures he's taken. Yes. He took the trailer and buses vote, a criminal have bills of sales for those things which Tyler has, even though redone Charlie claim, they must be fake based on the dates. And would a criminal have asked the Woodstock police after telling them about the bill of sale. If he was allowed to go in John's property and repossess the trailer and buses. Because according to Tyler, That's what he did. And the police said it was okay. And would a criminal say this when he got wind that he was being investigated for possibly forging John's name on a document? Although they are low? They. If Berger of that, you know. Is there something to prove. Cuomo omega, I don't know what you're trying to Peru's but uh, when Tyler and I talk about this, He doesn't yet know what the forgery allegations are about. Exactly. The county hasn't yet filed the charges against Tyler claiming He's forged on signature on the titles for John's truck and Mercedes The file those soon. But at the moment when we're talking, he simply heard word that someone has been going around asking questions about him about of forgery, and he thinks it maybe has to do with the bills of sale for the buses. Either way I ask him broadly, but is there a forgery that happened, Tyler. Oh, I don't know. Okay. Oh boy. Not on my part, he says for year, Tyler and I have talked regularly on the phone, and when I come to Alabama, he's told me all sorts of stories, some about John. But even more just about his life about the abuse, his father, Rodney inflicted upon him and his family when he was a kid abuse. Tiger's, mother and grandmother have told me about two Rodney by the way, said to me that he was not abusive. He used a different word. He said he worked his family tellers. Told me about what it was like. Just as he was entering high school to have Rodney, get convicted for sexually abusing a child tipped to suddenly crammed with his family and his grandmother's house and of everybody at school know what was going on. But what it's like to have your license suspended for, failing to pay a fine one time for a minor traffic offence and the to keep getting pulled over again. And again, because you have no other way to get to work in rural Alabama. So you're driving without the license. And the fines keep mounting with John called find slavery. And so much of the money you do manage make if to shovel right back over the courts or lawyers about what all that

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01:32 min | 3 years ago

"s." Discussed on S-Town

"Two. One scripture brother been referenced to John's funeral with Luke 12:15 brother been told us, take heed, beware of covetousness. For a man. A person's life consists not in the abundance of things which we possess. Life is not stuff. Brother been told us. Death O Death can leave a lot of stuff behind. It can go very quickly from the spiritual to the material. The way Tyler understood it. John wanted to leave him and his brother something when he died, which was my understanding to John told me as much on several occasions and minutes before he committed suicide. John texted Tyler, saying, quote, anything you want in this House. You can have unquote. Obviously those communications don't mean much legally without a will. And that seems to be the situation. Tyler and Schuyler told me after John died, they heard that he didn't have a will, which was shocking to them. Seeing what's happening to Tyler watching the cousin squeeze him out of John's affairs. It doesn't seem like with John would have wanted. In fact, that strikes me is exactly the kind of scenario that would have tormented him. Someone who's vulnerable, like Tyler trying to stand up and take responsibility for making things better and still getting screwed. Thai, there's been a consistent part of John's life in recent years. Meanwhile tower says, the cousins haven't been around for decades. I don't think this was the Clockmakers intention.

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02:33 min | 3 years ago

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"For. Here, cool, quite don't play the ball. You tend to talk types and stuff. I'd love to talk to you about Hampstead hero busy any more Orange plant. So white protest organiser spec over there. I figured use calendar lower the boomers, some them a tunnel yet to my turn to talk about have a lot to catch up on actually. I'm excited to tell John what I figured out finally after all this time, I know narrate the story of the real crime back to him almost a year and a half after he first told me about it with details colored in and facts illuminated including the rather Dramane one that came from did not kill anybody. After I'm done. John summarises my findings about five Knack also stolen trucks. Laugh lab avid hoping hollered, go want to jail. I can't believe how much you've worked on this sort of a pitch at the same time. Oh, my God. What website. I'm sitting here looking out the window with the clouds, going back, Justin loathe and discussed at the time that I live them, And the fact that impact our bags and get the hell out of here decades ago. I think it's the part about hiding in the woods. They say that that's just so classic. They've County. I I don't know how many times I've heard that expression in my life, hiding in the woods. It's like having in the woods in pipped County is like having your afternoon in London. You know, there is another way junk of responded told this news. I dare call it the normal way that site he let out rather than being one of despair could have been one of relief relief that a young man has not been killed. That local officials have not been bought off by a powerful rich family. And then in fact, law enforcement has done what appears to be a competent job responding to this incident should town, at least in this case, doesn't look so so terrible to me. I dunno progress right. But now I have learned that sometimes you catch John and dispel depression some as you catch him in about of mania and sometimes like today, I thank you catch him in and alchemy of the two. I'm trying to think of a snappy come back to that. Because what is it

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03:40 min | 3 years ago

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"Night. And then he was over, came thinks the whole thing mastered maybe fifteen seconds. It wasn't some beautiful draw. Now movie fight. He says It was a real life fight. Which means it was scrappy awkward and quick and left his friend, Tim clutching a four inch gash on his neck. There was gushing blood. Did you think Like Tim might be like It might be life-threatening? Yes, that is the craziest. Should I've ever seen him? Ha ha ha. Came and looked around and saw almost everyone at the party may be thirty forty people scattering, Tim was in a bad way system when it called 911 and people were driving away or hiding in the woods before the police got there. The ambulance came carded came and Tim to the hospital, and after getting a few stitches near the meat of his Gooch caper went outside to smoke a cigarette and bumped into a group of random girls from the party telling me all kinds of crazy. She at lot somebody at dad stuck up at what we got in a fought with Dad. What did you think stay? I don't think that way, Dan. You wouldn't. Thanks. So held fought it last at long. But still you had like this part of your brain. That was like maybe or GAL started coming down often Xanax Zenani get tonight low. Oh God, I hope I didn't do something stupid. I don't think nobody by if I did, I go hang around the phone, dial. And says he was kind of working out wondering if he killed some one. He called the buddy of his to come pick them up at the hospital. That buddy was in a motel room full of meth heads and Bessemer gave him says, and judging from police records and other sources. It seems possible. The rumor that Dylann had been killed, started in that motel room and then spread from their came says, By the time you get to work on Monday, it had already taken hold. People were coming up to him at the lumber yard and other places around town, asking if he killed the guy. And so you never I just want to ask you this again. You never may be were drunk when time insane. Yeah, I'd beat that. Got a death to anyone. 'cause I heard that you were bragging about it from multiple people. Number worn at what Nathan they something to brag about it like a deer or something. You know, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear you say that. I got to say So we were people get that from just damn small town my on, she gets fucking twisted. But saying that you told them directly to their face. I own I nobody. I don't know either. I can tell Affleck Haber saying to my face right now is true or not. It's hard to keep his father to Kendall Bird and told them that John said he'd overheard him on the phone here, A K three one day saying something about how his son was guilty as hell. And he knew it. And Kendall told me he doesn't know what John heard him say. Or if he heard him say anything. But the He's a tough love, kinda guy. And that if his son had done something like killed a person, He would never cover that up. according to Cabramatta There is a moral to this story. He shares it with me after I wonder allowed to him about something. One of the police officers told me, Why did his buddy Tim, rather than pressing charges against the man at almost killed him with a knife, decided instead to shove his middle finger in the face of the cops. When they came to talk to him in his hospital bed by Nobody host via tattle-tale. Dude, almost died. Got stabbed in the neck. Keep it takes a drag of his cigarette shrugging her shoulders if you go live, like what trashing She had than hail. Now you might as well not tell them Nobody because you know a vast laugh. You Toronto Leo V K, Big mired when. Low-down dirty, She at lockout happens when you hang out with low down dirty play for.

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03:19 min | 3 years ago

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"Ooh. Hey, Mark Arum Brian Regan Jnr if that's what I'm doing a radio story, I'm a reporter. I'm here from New York. I'm Is there. Some are quiet. We could sit. It's a year later and a pulling into K-3 Lumber on a Friday morning nervously asking of Cape hymns around. I feel comfortable doing this only because I finally determined that the incident John contacted me about bric-a-brac allegedly got into a fight and beat a gotta death. Although it did infact go down almost exactly as John and Jake and Schuyler and others told me was wrong in one relatively important detail. The to death part. The guy came from beat up, did not die. They just thought he did for while. That's what I've intially gathered from talking to people more. Once I heard that I started contacting law enforcement to find out what did exactly happen. It turns out the incident in question actually took place in adjacent Tuscaloosa County, a chief at the sheriff's department there red to me from a detailed case-file showing that the police had investigated the fight thoroughly that no one had been killed, and that they had closed the case. Not because they were paid off anything. But because none of the guys involved wanted to press charges. And so here I am at K-3 Lumber to ask him why he will go round bragging to people The he'd killed, the guy He had not killed his Wissam co-workers and the lumber yard in a Plaid shirt Green trucker hat and dark sunglasses. Abe. And Brian Reid Schnitt. There's a particular philosophy of encountered down here and will continue to encounter. That is the fuck at philosophy. A belief that there no sense in worrying or thinking too much about any given decision. Because life is going to be difficult and unfair regardless of what you do. It's more than a belief, really. It's a way of moving moment to moment through the world. And from the get go came from seems to be a subscriber. I show up with the microphone and ask if I can talk to him on the record about a matter I have yet to name. And he's immediately gain. Fuck it. And we walk over behind some stacks of Lumber, The alone. What you on top level. So basically. Um, like were you at one point going around, tell people that you'd killed someone? No. Avoid cut my buddies narra here with enough. But no luck. I bake the Pierce out of him. What happened was, what happened was came from says they were at a party and he doesn't know how the fight started because he and almost everyone else resolved out of their minds drank in and do and everything else under the sun like substance wise locker taken Xanax and doing mix and speed with it. And so, uh, according to the police report, It was a clear moonlit night About four four thirty in the morning on August four two thousand twelve Just a few days outside the time window John had discern from his records. CAPEM says, all he remembers is they were in the middle of the woods. Chilling around a fire. A fight broke out. And that suddenly the studio Dillon not Dillon, Nichols is John told me he was not involved. But another Dylan with a different last name came up from behind with a knife and cook Abrams buddy to him in the neck. So CAPEM went after him, held Dillon's head down punched. Tim hit him with a beer bottle. Tim got involved, might have began the cheek Dillon, kept swinging his knife The whole time. He stabbed came from two brought up to your up. In your side there. You're like homeless cut luggage night.

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03:46 min | 3 years ago

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"Line. Date duty City, get it directly from Tyler. He bought the TRI You got it went rationally from Tyler. Tyler had hush it on Facebook. And he went over to China, are south and Match title are and pay thirty three hundred dollars for the truck. And Tyler told him that he had bought the truck from his staff dad, John natural a more. Meanwhile, Tyler told me once that the truck was Johns, The state revoke the title. It got the guy right out what happened in statement. And he gave her the truck saying, he eat the thirty three hundred bucks. He paid for it. It's a minute voiding trouble with the law. Real also just discovered the Tyler allegedly pulled off the same shebang with John's Mercedes that he sold for nine hundred dollars. And I do not want leaning wanted to know this because I just don't know what they are feeding tighter, which brings us to why Rida was plumbing me for Intel on the Woodstock police. She doesn't want to tell them about her investigation because she believes their protecting Tyler. She says she asked the cops to look into these vehicles months ago, but that they came back and told her everything was fine that they belong to Tyler. And there've been other issues she's reported since John died, worried, officials. They've chosen not to investigate or arrest Tyler take the saga that started one day back during the summer. When redone Charlie were home in Florida and sent their niece who lives in Woodstock to check on the Michael Moore property. Criticiser niece arrived. And so the John's workshop had been broken into. So she called the cops. Which she got behind me. That's officer Jerry Lacey A veteran Woodstock Cup in his sixties Enwright fat. Where is Mary Great. Don homeowners should be tall. Jerry Lacey was familiar with the situation. He had to have known. The Mary Grace would not be handling something like this. Whereas Rida he asked in Florida, read his knees, told him and Hey, counter. We only have pounded love affair and not gonna follow a power. And then the very next day is when toddler took the buses. A friend of readers in town called when that happened to say, she just seen Tyler riding in front of a giant tow truck with one of Chun's buses to read on surely quickly packed and booked at first thing in the morning Tabuk county. They went to tell his grandmother, miss Hicks, his house, and drove slowly by snapping photos of the buses and the large trailer. Tyler. It also taken from Johns, which were all sitting in plain view in the yard. Soon after Reita says, the person who was watching their house back home in Florida picked up the phone there. And someone who identified himself as Tyler said, If you don't quit throbbing bomber, half in Iraq, May I am going at you failure acid by shot. Rita wasn't intimidated by this threat. Let me say this. She told me We carry a gun when we're in Woodstock. But she was pissed. She went in person to the Woodstock police station to report it. And who should be there. But Jerry lights, MI, now all can Jerry just sick. Nate way with all barrels saying, you have got to quit run by Chislehurst house. You have gone to Clinton Rassat him or I'm gonna have to. Uh, a rich. Do. And I'm like, Yeah. Do you mean to tell me I can't drive down a public Road, but he didn't go over it Mira gracious. It's still all her staff French. I didn't really say stuff because I was mad. And then you know he's like lady, you got all back off. And I know how I think he's own Tyler shot.

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01:50 min | 3 years ago

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"Cage. The. Oh. Andrew seeing There is wrong. Some of those Love. Well, as town is produced by Julie Snyder in me with star editing from Ira glass, Sarah Kanungu and Neil drumming. We have the best podcast staff in the world Whitney Dangerfield as our digital editor starlet kind of the story consult fact checking in research by Ben failing set. Linda's are director of operations flower Smith mixes. The show Matt tyranny is our technical director, Gaston staffing foods. Emily Khandan lease Birgerson Julie would occur and Kimberly Henderson incredible music for our show is composed by Daniel heart. Trey Pollard a lot of NATO and Matt McKinley music supervision by Damien grave. Our website beautiful. Our work by Blair devolve S town podcast.org. Thank you to all the experts who helped us understand mercury-poisoning Jackie Evancho Richard Fuller, Carl her Bramsen fill plan Dragan James Albers Michael cosmic and Chris shade. I learned a lot about bid County history from this book called county, Alabama. The first 100 years by wrote a cold. An Ellison Special thanks to Anthony Roman John Gilchrist's employed brick in Robin DG Kelley Claiborne Carlsson and will Dollberg as well as crystal Ecevit. Paul and Howard read salons, Franklin read Jeff Mellman and the entire staff of cereal. And This American Life. No one ball. Small.

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01:40 min | 3 years ago

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"The county, Alabama came into its own as a thriving coal County in the late 1800s the boom times when less long in the 1890s with the population on the rise, the citizens, a bid started taking advantage of each other stealing from each other murdering each other burning each other's houses down. Got so bad. A newspaper called the county bloody bid in the name stuck bloody bid. The 1890s version of shit town. In eighteen ninety one one of the main perpetrators of this chaos, the most notorious gangster in the county Jesse Miller who extorted lots of land for himself and stole his neighbours cattle and cotton, and whose gang killed people who knew too much was finally locked in jail. But then escaped and fled to counter for good signing over control of all his landed, the county to his son. Brooks. Years later Brooks took hundred and 24 acre parcel the family land and transferred ownership of it to his daughter. Mary Grace. Years After that in nineteen 65 Mary Grace pregnant begin a ritual of sitting on that land and rubbing her stomach and pleading the God saying, please Lord, Give me a genius Lord please just make my child genius. A March 15th 1966. She had a red-haired boy FEMA middle name after her father Brooks and brought him home to the 100 and 24 acres to an old house with three Chimneys. In the middle of the words.

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02:04 min | 3 years ago

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"My last day on my last trip to Alabama, I had some time to kill, So I decided to go down to the Kaaba River. It's a stunning river, the National Wildlife Refuge, that many people in did County consider their local treasure as I was standing on the bank as a bridge in the distance. I thought to myself. I wonder if that's the bridge Tyler and John tag their names under that day, that last day of John's life. So I drove to the end of it and crawled underneath. There was graffiti everywhere marks of the people who had been there. Jason, a and Jerry Conway and Ranger Ricken's snake and Tina loves Danny. There is also a fuck you and racial epithets and an upsetting number of cake a case. No John or Tyler though. First second, I wondered if maybe Tyler had made up the fact that they've done this. But then I found another bridge over small tributary of the river at a spot call Bulldog. End and walked underneath, passed a bunch of garbage Pessa torn-up couch and a pool lining a rotting dear carcass in weirdly, The half-burnt medical records of an infant and their past. All that on the other side of the giant supported the bridge in a serene spot, looking out over the bend in the river there They were towers initials on one side with an established 1991 John's on the other established 1966. There were no nasty words here. Cup of beer cans and cigarette boxes. But other than that, not too much trash together. Tyler and John found a place that was just a little bit cleaner. The last time you talk to me, I told you that goes to the suicidal stages Now, let She it And you know what kind of worried you. But when I think about the end of my own existence, I take the biggest possible picture. I don't just look is myself. This is a forty nine euro semi homosexual atheist living in a shit town full Baptist in, But folks they'll Alabama. I look at myself as a citizen of the world. I tried to look at the biggest picture possible.

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02:14 min | 3 years ago

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"There's a story that's taken hold among some locals and people surrounding John's cousin Rita and also some John's close friends of what led to John's demise. The jump was desperate for company and influence the ball, and that he started hang out with unsavory people and drinking, which according to most people, he hadn't done for much of his life and getting tattoos. As one man told me, you lay with dogs. You get fleas. And the dog he was talking about was Tyler. In the year and a half since John's death I've watched as that story has slowly ossified into a matter of fact that people now tell each other. But I think this is a more accurate story. If John wanted these things done to his body as it appears from the videos I've seen that he did, or if he needed them. And where else would he have sought them out besides church? Who else in his life and Bebe county? Would you feel comfortable enough to go to with these requests and not feel inconsolably shamed or judged Now worry that they might gasping his face? Tyler was 24 during all this with so much going on in his life already. He didn't know when he started church that it would go as far as it went. And he was wary of doing some of the things John was asking him to do. And yet still he did them for John. He did try at one point to stop some of that. He told John that was it for now no more piercing and tell us as he held to that for a couple of weeks. But through John into a depression and he wouldn't take no for an answer. And eventually Tyler ended up just doing it again. In fact, outburst as no force The Nah Iquitos sale. After their day together, splashing around the river and spray painting their names under the bridge, they're Father's Day as they called it. Tyler brought John home and John pressured him into doing that. Just give me a pain fix before you leave. He told Tyler and tell her reluctantly did. And then he went home and was Pistole John about it. And he says, that was part of the reason when John was begging him to come back over and saying he was going to commit suicide. The Tyler just had fuck it. And went to bed instead. my

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02:47 min | 3 years ago

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"Just getting the facts was shot and give cause Hale while Turkey. The shop is Johns clock shop. Of course. The shot that I now know is possibly riddled with mercury. And is where I met Tyler actually on my very first visit to bid county. When he was Scharping a chainsaw. And John was swinging wild Turkey from the bottle. Yet of it let him tattoo only a little bit lower. 'cause I ain't no good look in May and I go window beauty prize. You know I goalie hangar after naked show in my day unbiased. Sobbing given a little bit of practice literal put up at Flocco we call short while Turkey is a holy water. Little filthy S room is the sanctuary off on however all the other lives. The pets Who knows. It are the reliquary reliquary is a container that holds a holy relic like the bones are ashes of a Saint to here, John described church. It was bonding Time for him and Tyler a nighttime meeting of the minds What he goes. Talk about. Yeah, Well you get drunk guys together that have such a disparity in ages the wisest thing for the old ones or twos to keep its mouth shut and listen to the false that way. Habeel ahead of the younger ones. The other night and we had church, He estimates some of my damn salts about life and death, and you know whether or not, I think there's anything when you die. And you know, I probably Ronaldo and proud alone a about a bunch of them. Bullshit. That makes sense. What your drug would probably doesn't with your Sobers who is the gist of it? Oh, the just a it'd be impossible to say, I mean, I I went all the way down to corks corks, The subatomic particles. I mean, I was in fact, we know that in, for example, pay in the orbital electron can be into place at the same time, but not in the middle. And I use that as an analogy to how it is now theorized that a quasars which could appear light years distances across universes Kennedy said the matter entering a spiral and black how I didn't understand Mrs either. You know, I was explaining Einstein's theory of top stylish play it. It was simply I could the theory as to why time passes more quickly or slowly due to one strategic diary in space time. Sometimes I it. And other nights John said he in Tyler would just shut up and sit there together, passing the bourbon back and forth in silence In the shops backroom. Mostly turned off the damn lie listened to the failed of a tweet birds alone. Frogs on the cricket. The opened back wonder. You don't get enough off and his wife has got them too quiet.

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03:31 min | 3 years ago

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"All that said There are symptoms of mercury poisoning that I don't know of John had one is Ginger Vitus. And another big one is tremors though sometimes it's a unique kind of tremor that's only visible when you're trying to hold oppose. So it's possible. I are others didn't really notice it. But having or anyone talk about him having this. And we'll John was irreversible and anxious and suicidal those personality traits are found all the time in people who do not have elemental mercury in their brains. John showed signs of depression as far back as when he was a teenager. And plus John had a lot of normal depressing life should happen to him in his last decade or so. Is falling out with the town clerk. Cheryl Dodson happened in two thousand five at that point Woodstock was nearly ten years old. And the exciting days of its youth were over. Not long before his feud with Cheryl John's father, Tom Mac L'Amour had fallen in the driveway and died in hospital afterwards. Also, it was right around this time that the man John fell in love with over summer, The one OMON Long told me about stopped returning his phone calls and broke his heart. Meanwhile, the clock trade had been dwindling, And by this point, John had mostly shuttered. His business. So John found himself entering his forties with no real job alone in the house. He grown up in with his mother whose dementia was creeping up on her one day in the year and a half before he died junk called the other town clerk. Fake Gamble, who John would eventually call is he killed himself. Fit picked up, inhalers are depressed, crying and said, he was so ashamed. I've done something. John told Fay of done something terrible. I thought he hit Kil-Sim by the way at TA and ain't seriously at at the he had done that really, really data's What have you done, didn't want him what he had say it finally it. We just kept talking in a just drug. It added him and he says am So she got horrible tattoo. Fair was like, that's it. And that was first time You never cities ashamed within that you've ever done, you know. But he was just so upset about getting that tattoo. Innocent John really how bad they could this. They you now know said, will do not do anymore. I mean, you know, just you know, But that Bailian and on I did not really realize a he had done more till his death. A gun of turtles in ruin your that Somalia could getting a lifetime us all all at launch knows. Yeah. A get addicted fast, yes. Tattooing became a big part of John's life near the end, and Tyler had a first hand view of it. That's toddlers Uncle Jimmy, by the way, giving affirmations in the background. Toddlers partner in the tattoo parlor BUBBA told me John's motivation, forgetting so many tattoos was to help Tyler to give him money and keep his business afloat. He told me that John had sacrificed his skin for this cause. The Tyler says There was a lot more to the tattooing than that tattooing had become part of a ritual. He and John concocted in the few months before he killed himself. Without church. Tyler will go on to explain all about church to me, But before Tyler does that, I'm gonna let John describe it Because John told me about church to shortly before he died. And he painted it pretty differently than Tyler Does Hilary lightly. But we've been having church together. We call it sure which veins would just

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05:08 min | 3 years ago

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"Vehicles. More Right after this One day I'm talking on the phone to want to John's old friends o'clock customer of his in Utah name Bill Meyer. And he starts describing this thing he would watch John do when he used to visit John's property in Woodstock We go, Obama would. At a tree stump felt there and he could take a break in diplomatic torts. And have a pot with mercury silvery dense fluid Mercury, though would watch John heat the mercury into a slurry dumped take gold and melt the gold into the mercury mixing the pot out there in the woods like a witch stirring ingredients in her cauldron. And then Bill says, don't take a brush and spread the golden mercury amalgam onto o'clock. And that hold the torch flame to it. Vaporizing the mercury and leaving behind a rich textured layer of gold. It's an ancient process that appears to have originated rump three hundred B C or so in China called fire gelding. That almost no one does anymore. Bills a prolific lifelong clock collector and he says John is the only person he ever found in the United States who would do it? No one does it because inhaling mercury vapor is so ridiculously dangerous. You heard the explosion matter? I heard the explosion Madden ever. Yeah, I tell bill, but I don't really know where it comes from. He explains up for centuries in Europe Millon IRS people who made hats, which turned furs into felt for hats by vaporizing mercury. And as a result, uh, go maverick. Go crazy. That was the outcome of breathing mercury vapor, because it does permanent brain damage. 3 DS leader. I'm talking to another John's clock customers, another Bill actually the one who shall means collection at his house. And he tells me either torn on my Hawks. Fire gilded it. This bill says when John did the gilding Ma for Ancona away. That they want to breathe in those Marguerite toxic themes. But at the same time it was, ah, I opening experience. And so I stayed And you just did not in the woods. It didn't shop inside the shop. He did it in the show. John wore no safety mask and had no special precautions for ventilation. And we were. Earlier in in an idol knows his chest hurt the next day, But Monsur Did you know table that far? Guilt. And back in the 1800s? No. What? They didn't last long. 'Cause they believe so much Marcory. They just went crazy and died. When he sat down after these conversations to Google Mad Hatter disease, which is what people have called mercury-poisoning over the years. I saw this list of symptoms, anxiety, irritability, insomnia, emotional instability, depression, suicidal thoughts. I found studies mostly from years ago since it's become a much rare condition. These days were Researchers observed in interviewed people who worked in industries for they are exposed to mercury. And they describe as one nineteenth-century medical textbook called them. A multitude of evils, racing thoughts, fearful feelings, feelings of persecution, feelings of worthlessness essential called anhedonia, which is an inability to feel pleasure, loss of self-control, and of joy in life. One German scientists from the 1920s who studied the effects of mercury and then ended up getting poisoned himself wrote the he began experiencing quote depression and a vexing in a restlessness which later also caused restless sleep by nature companionable and loving life. I withdrew mutally into myself shied away from the public stayed away from people and social activity and unlearn the joy in art and nature. Humor became rusty obstacles which formerly I would have overlooked smilingly. Seemed insurmountable. It was not nice to be aware of the shortcomings. Not to know their cause. Not to no way to their elimination and have to fear further deterioration. I do not have a definitive answer as to whether or not John had mercury-poisoning and if that could have been a force behind some of his behavior, his personality, and even to suicide. Johns autopsied in test for mercury and even digging up his remains which I can't and won't do wouldn't tell us at this point because mercury becomes relatively untested pretty quickly. The best way to get an indication would be to test his property in particular his workshop to see what the mercury levels are there. But I wrote Kendall Bird The owner of the property. Now after he and I met asking if he let me pay for mercury analysis and he never responded to my emails or calls about it.

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03:10 min | 3 years ago

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"Taxes or. Something like that, But a main wait revealed in a town when I was theory was exciting for us. The town was Ni. John and Cheryl ended up becoming close friends. I'm one of their drives to probate court. John happened to notice Sheryl's fingernail Polish. It was read though Cheryl told them the actual name, the color less. I'm not really a white dress and he thought that was hilarious that fingernail policies had names like that. When they got to the probate court Schultz's older heavy-set lady behind the counter. She didn't want to lift the heavy deep book for Sherwin John. And at someone else to do it for. When they brought it Taylor she said you so good my legs, so tired and Hey thought that was Larry See said that would make a great nail polish color. The next week a bouquet of flowers was delivered to Cheryl at work at the town hall. From John. In when I opened the card. It said, um, you so good my legs to her tired. So it definitely Loot lack a different meaning than Y. You know, It definitely look different from a nail polish Keller. Looking back. Sure. Thanks those years when they were still building. Woodstock may have also been some of the best years of John's life. And thinking about it more, it makes sense. John like to good project for him, creating something new or restoring something was worthwhile way to spend ones time. Before you at the Maze Tyler. He had the new town of Woodstock In two thousand five Sure on John went on to open a small business together for a season. A tiny nursery next to Sheryl's House Woodstock Garden Center which dumped threw himself into sourcing plants and flowers from different parts of the state to John was at Sheryl's place a lot. She and her husband Jeff seem to have that type of home anyway with doors always unlocked and all sorts of people come and go as they please the five kids. Plus they were often taking in foster kids or exchange students. It was a sunshine and flowers at their house. Cheryl says tearing open a pack of hot dogs for the children. Her pulling them around in a wagon, and she says, John fit right in with all of that. The main in their on that dough word, There's is hot. I mean, he got measured with the kids. We have a door that we always measure the kids Hot Zone, and I'll show you it's there's John big shrill does show me the Browns steam door that she and her husband a move from room to room over the years. These days is on display in the center of their living room. There's a child's painting of their house on the bottom, a rainbow, and heart and sun overhead. And then above that, it's just covered with the name and age of kid after kid after kid each name slowly moving up the door, the door, its own kind of timekeeper. And there in the center at six feet between 14-year-old Scott an year 18-year-old Colby. Is John be Mac Lamar thirty eight years old. Seems like John was kind of I mean, I don't know. Part of the family for a little while will L you guys were tight. We were fame lay on. So what happened. Um.

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03:30 min | 3 years ago

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"John be methyl more lives in shit town, Alabama. But there was a time believe it or not when he seemed to be happy there. It was during the towns beginning when Woodstock was incorporating as an official muncipality starting in 1990 six John was in his early thirties. It was a time when you could ask someone a town hall What Jambi Michael Moore was like, and they might see something like, never complained. I don't. I don't remember him complaining. Daphne Brooks was one of the early members of the town council and he he was and talking to me more on. Abdul Listrik. Are you sure we're talking about the same John be Mac L'Amour red hair clock restore system like this about government officials As mother Fokkers would have five gassed to their damn Dickov one put Kandhamal and warned rubbed Vassily No four more to file the fucking papers in the environmentalists to clean up the damn contamination analyze all the byproducts and declared the Jakov sought to the a Superfund place. Apparently we are I mean if I was Stephanie Envelopes I don't I don't see that John went to sat there Stephanie envelopes with me where they they a parade notice or a business last its renewal and main academic. This is Cheryl Dodson. She was the town clerk for Woodstock shortly after the town was founded. Choose court before Fay gamble took over plane in the Christmas pariah plane in the open house and he he always say me with that helped you the Christmas Parade. There was a stretch in his early years when Woodstock wasn't even officially called Woodstock yet. When it first Incorporated It was the town of North bid, which apparently lots of North Debbie and thought was a lame name because they voted to change it to Woodstock of fears end. Cheryl says there was a lot going on during those early days, and John was always around and involved hanging out of the town hall, his mother to Mary Grace. She was funny. This was before Mary graces dementia had said N and Shiro says she had a Pippi Longstocking vibe about her. She Goran town in a red skirt and green sweater and purple hat and stocks a clash with her shoes and the kind of bright red hair that you get out of a bottle. She kinda the town how'd. Is there any scandal early, unplanned pregnancies, any children out of wedlock let you know John what sites she's the scandal haven, pulling it may You know I was the one Getting a divorce or something like that. You know, he say she don't tell you about the scandal. She's the scandal. Not they like, hush, John. John came around so much, he ensure all started spending a lot of time together. One of the main things Woodstock was doing during this period was in next thing, property into the town Lot by lot to make it bigger as town clerk@the time Cheryl dots and worked on these annexation which meant she was often making drives to the probate court to pull deeds and John who had nothing better to do took to going with her. She says he was helpful dealing with records at the court. He was giving her hand with real work, not getting paid. He attended town council meetings regularly with his mother, and they next their own land into the town which had a significant impact on its borders because their property. So large Joses Jiang got a kick out of contributing to Woodstock. So he seemed like engaged as like he was a good citizen. Yeah, He voiced his input impotence things that yeah, he was a part of it have to say is so at odds with the John I knew he was like close to obsessed with just how terrible is place was. Anyway, it Aamodt a complained about taxes

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01:56 min | 3 years ago

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"When John's front bill was showing his collection in his house, he cried to spill what the allure of clocks was forum. And he'd started telling me about the first clock. He was a transpiring, a cheap kitchen clock in his grandparents House. He'd watches grandfather, pick it up and wind it every Sunday when he was young boy whose mesmerized by how this object suddenly became alive, ticking, hands, turning, and he began crying as he told me, Is it that clock? I asked him those emotional forum. It's not anyone personal clock. He said it was just the measure of time, had something to do with me. I didn't totally know what Bill meant by this. The measure of time had something to do with me. But I think he was saying that even as a kid, the clock captured this feeling of time going by going by and never coming back. A someone, the name John Michael Moore 25 years in the future you'll you'll remember exactly who then a Oh my God, John, I'm never going to forget. You Come on John one Semyon essay, he wrote a called worthwhile life defined in which he breaks down exactly how much meaningful time there is in one life. He begins quote, when one considers that the undistinguished life of an industrialized man in an industrialized nation consists of about twenty five thousand days and that about thirty three to thirty eight percent of those days are spent in slumber. And then he runs through a bunch of calculations shaving off time for sleep to come up with the total number of waking hour days than shaving off time at work time commuting time spent on family commitments time spent convalescing when you get older In the end, he concludes the average industrialized man with 25,000 days on this planet may easily secure

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