35 Burst results for "S. China"
Why Do We Continue to Buy From China?
"As you were saying earlier I don't understand why Americans by any products made in China for a long time Checked out products to see where their manufactured and a lot of times you just can't tell it because it says distributed by and it's a country in America to company in America So I thought there was a lot point where it had to be printed on the packaging of the product To tell you where the country is large and manufacturer was but apparently I haven't seen that I don't know if that was under the Trump administration But I do not buy any products in China by the Mexico Vietnam I'll buy them in product because that's what I have to get But I mainly look for products made in the United States I don't understand why Americans would buy products for I agree with you Part of the problem is like certain drugs because they have certain elements in China that we don't have certain material that we don't have I mean in the ground and so forth There is no escaping it But in terms of basic manufacturing you're a 100% right and Washington talks about this now You know the first one to talk about this was Trump Washington never talked about this but they talk about it now And here's the problem the Chinese have bought off so many of our institutions including politicians Look at swalwell Look at Pelosi Look at Feinstein He's only going to hear from him anymore Look at these colleges and universities with these Confucius Institutes Look at a Hollywood and how much money China has in the movie industry And then you look at our products too They have they have spread like a virus like a poison throughout the society And the one guy trying to put the brakes on it was Donald Trump and I think to some extent that's why they tried to take
Comparing the Chinese and U.S. Hypersonic Weapons
"China's new weapon is only one of a series of hypersonic weapons being developed by Beijing Russia and the U.S. the U.S. and Russia have also spent decades working on their own hypersonic nuclear capable systems And the two countries have conducted tests on the weapons in recent months Here's the difference the Chinese have stolen our technology and improved it While we sit on our hands Washington and Moscow have only made public details of their medium range hypersonic weapons that are designed to be launched from ships or planes and do not strike from space But China's testing now of a 25,000 mph hypersonic missile which flew through space before launching an attack on its target took analysts by surprise indicated Beijing's missile program is more advanced than previously thought That was the extent of the details as they're known right now Now our missile called the arrow Can reach a speed of 15,345 mph The what they call the fractional orbit bombardment system or the Chinese new missile that they fired the top speed is not 25,000 mph Excuse me It's 21,000 mph The range is unlimited The range of our missile is believed to be about a thousand miles but it's not certain launch from a B one B bomber The Chinese can launch their missile from any land base
Communist China Tested a Hypersonic Weapon in August
"I believe we have a Sputnik moment here ladies and gentlemen Many of you are too young to know what Sputnik is Or was I should say Well Sputnik changed everything On October 4 1957 the Soviet Union launched successfully The world's first artificial satellite That's what they called it About the size of a beach ball Wait only 83.6 kilometer That's about 83 183 or four pounds Orbited there for about 98 minutes And it ushered in a new political military technological and scientific Cold War Well that's just happened with the communist Chinese and I've said we'd been in a Cold War with them for years We may not have accepted it as a Cold War but they sure as our fighting it It sure as our fighting it They paging entered into hypersonic missile race and according to MSN it shocked not just the United States but the Russians The global hypersonic arms race is heating up worldwide after China tested a top secret weapon that can circle the globe at 21,000 mph And descent from space to strike anywhere on earth in minutes
Iran: US should lift sanctions to prove it wants talks
"Hi Mike Rossi you're reporting Iran wants the United States to lift sanctions to prove it once stalled nuclear talks to proceed Iran's president said Monday the United States should lift sanctions on Iran to prove it is serious about restarting stalled nuclear talks in Vienna Ebrahim Raisi made his comments in an interview with Iranian state TV but in Washington at a state department briefing spokesman that price we will continue to enforce them together with our allies and partners around the world until and unless a run chooses a path of diplomacy talks between Iran and the European signatories of the twenty fifty nuclear deal alongside Russia and China have been stalled since June president Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew the United States from the accord in twenty eighteen Mike
Protestors disrupt flame lighting for Beijing Winter Games
"Three activists protesting human rights abuses in China broke into the archaeological sites where the flame lighting ceremony for the two thousand and twenty two Beijing winter Olympics was being held and run toward the newly that's towards holding it's about ten flag and a banner that read no genocide games the protesters climbed over a fence to enter the grounds and attempted to reach the temple of Hera where the ceremony was being held they were thrown to the ground by police and detained the flame was lit at the birthplace of the Asian Olympics in southern Greece under heavy police security earlier other protesters were detained by Greek police before they could reach the site pro democracy protests also had broken out during the lighting ceremony for the two thousand eight Beijing Summer Games I'm sorry I. Shockley
When We Make Decisions Based on Diversity Instead of Competency, America Suffers
"That when we start to organize society, or when we start to make decisions based on things that people can not change versus on things they can change such as diversity or skin color, not competency and excellence, then all of a sudden you're going to start to see society suffer because of it. And a great example of this is what happened in Afghanistan, which I think we've forgot about way too quickly. What happened in Afghanistan was a publican international humiliation where we gave $85 billion to the Taliban. We gave up the Bagram air base. The sacrifices of so many military members went for not. And let me be very clear. I was all for ending the war in Afghanistan. But if all of a sudden I said, hey, you know, you're the kidney that gets removed. You take out a pocket knife and you start to do, like, that's not a good idea, okay? Go to a professional who knows what they're doing. There's a good way and a bad way to do something that needs to be done. And getting out of Afghanistan, Robinson, hey, let's arm the enemy, give the embassy up, not patrol the air base, Americans are stranded for months on end, give China the upper hand with the entire evacuation, give up the strategic air base. And the reason in the opinion of, I think anyone looks at it objectively, is that the head of the United States military, Mark milley along with Lloyd Austin and Joe Biden, if you consider him to be the head of anything, which is, which is, they were testifying in front of Congress back in June, saying that the existential threat to America was white rage, and that we're not going to apologize for implementing critical race theory diversity equity inclusion or this sort of new history into the military. Into the military of all places. The military that by definition, every person here should want the military to be a place where competency ranks that you don't land the plane, your national security is at risk. You're not able to eliminate the enemy, your national security is at risk. Should all of a sudden, we'd be worrying about these arbitrary academic exercises of diversity equity inclusion or saying, hey, we have the greatest fighting force in the history of the world, probably not worth messing that up for some sort of esoteric abstract academic
Our Faith Touches Everything
"The Germans bought into this stupid idea. They thought, hey, we're German, which means we're Lutheran, which means Luther invented Christianity as far as we're concerned. He invented this idea of grace, grace means I don't have to do anything, and that's that. And of course, Bonham wrote about cheap grace and the idea that if you don't really understand grace, you treat it like nothing. You know, you treat what God has done for you like nothing, which means you don't get it, which means you don't believe which means forget about grace. There's no grace because you have an appropriate degree. I really believe for other reasons the church in America today has done the same thing. I think there are different reasons, but there are tons of people who've excoriated people like me and Frank and said, you've made an idol of politics. You've made an idol of Donald Trump. You know, ridiculous things. And the point is no, we just believe that our faith touches everything. It's not some little parochial religious thing that stays in the corner, like the official church is doing China. It's something that has to come out of the church and live everywhere. We have a free exercise of religion, freedom to do that. So if you keep it in this little religious theological corner, then it's phony. It's abbreviated faith. If you don't live it out in the school, on the workplace, on the radio, on the whatever it is, if you don't do that, you don't really believe it. Your phony. So when people talk about, I just want to preach the gospel. I don't want to be I don't want to be political. We think that's just stupid. That makes no sense. Because if you're a Jew in a boxcar going to Treblinka or Auschwitz, you think, you know, I would love it if there was some Christians out there on the other side of this boxcar who believed what they said and would get political and stand up against the system that is sending me my family to death. That means getting political.
British queen appears to show irritation at climate inaction
"Britain's Queen Elizabeth the second has been cool to microphone criticizing the global lack of action on climate change the ninety five year old Monica's films on someone's phone once a thing Welsh parliaments in Cardiff the queen commented to her doctrinal Camilla Duchess of Cornwall but she still didn't know who was coming to cop twenty six which she will be hosting England's guide several heads of state to governments including China's xi Jim paying have not said whether they will it's hands on the recording parts of which China will double the queen also appears to say it's irritating when they talk but they don't do her comments come around the same time her grandson prince William and his concern for the planet's walls criticizing the new trend for space tourism we needs some of the world's greatest brains and minds fixed on her iPad this planet's not trying to find the next place to go live contrast and then
Tuberculosis deaths rise for 1st time in years, due to COVID
"Tuberculosis deaths have risen worldwide for the first time in years the World Health Organization says a million and a half people died of TB and twenty twenty a slight rise from the one point four million who died in twenty nineteen the W. H. O. says the increase was mainly due to fewer people getting tested and treated last year as resources were diverted to fight the corona virus pandemic far fewer people were diagnosed with the disease last year five point eight million compared to seven point one million the year before the countries with the highest number of TB cases include India China Indonesia and the Philippines I'm my company
What Does the Constitution Really Say About Freedom of Religion?
"Americans really now need to understand what does the constitution say about religion. And I remember years ago, Hillary Clinton referred to freedom of worship, and I remember chuck Coleman at the time saying, wait a minute, forget about freedom of worship. It's about freedom of religion. Freedom of worship. They have in China. You go into your little weird building on Sunday morning. Do your little weird mystical stuff. And when you come out, you bow to the secular authority of the state. That's the opposite of freedom of religion. Freedom of religion says 24 7, you can exercise your faith. You can live out your faith. You can talk about your faith. You can do things with regard to your faith. You can refuse to do things with regard to your faith. That is an incredibly broad right. And we, in America, because we've been so blessed with freedom, have really just taken our eye off the ball in terms of what it is. And so when somebody says, do something you go, oh, okay, without realizing, like, wait a minute. I am free. Well, just to be clear, let's say let's speak theoretically, right? I'll be like Arthur Miller with a Harvard Law School. He used to do these round table things on PBS or something. You need to say, well, what about in this case? What if it's the Bubonic plague? It's not COVID, which where people get a cold and they inflate the numbers and make it sound like everybody's dying. Let's say tons of people are dying in the streets. That becomes a different issue. In other words, if somebody says, hey, I don't mind spreading the Bubonic plague. You'd say, well, your religious liberty doesn't extend to that because people are dying in the streets because the science actually backs
Virginia Mother Who Survived Chinese Communism Sees Parallels in America
"One one Epic times It's a great resource Virginia mother who survived Mao's cultural revolution Sees parallels in America The communist political movement that devastated China decades ago is unfolding in America warned Xi van fleet A parent turned activists who made national headlines after speaking out against critical race theory at a school board meeting She said when the cultural revolution started I was a first grader She said that all classes ceased at schools and colleges as older students proclaimed themselves Mao Zedong's red guards In bowlen by mouse slogan to rebel as justified the red guards did not hesitate to instigate violence and destruction on everyone and everything they considered counter revolutionary She said with Mao's approval no one could stop them Recalling a story she heard from someone who witnessed the red guards beating to death a man who was deemed an oppressor and exploited for simply being able to withdraw a large sum of money from his bank Don't tell secretary Yellen this The perpetrators face no consequences for the killing since the criminal justice system was already paralyzed Another key figure of the red guards movement was to attack the four olds namely old ideas old culture old customs and old habits To enforce what van fleet described as a cancel culture the red guards would go door to door to search and destroy any item that was connected to the period before the communist takeover of China She said I remember this whole street was just a mess of things destroyed And the people those homeowners howling and crying While the madness and lawlessness of Mao's cultural revolution may sound extreme to Americans van fleet warns that America's following a similar
'Woke' Media Fails to Ask NBA Coach About China
"Com. Josh cross how are you and NBA fan? Somewhat. I mean, I kind of lost interest in the NBA when wizards don't make the playoffs at all. But yeah, I follow the NBA. I like basketball. Say you know, Popovich is allegedly this brilliant guy. He's very good basketball coach, but yesterday, Gruden gets fired from misogynistic homophobic emails and Popovich compares Columbus to Hitler and doesn't get asked a question about the genocide in China and the Uyghurs in his complicity in that. What's wrong with the NBA sports media? Well, not just the sports media, it's the leadership of the NBA, which I think they've suffered the most of all the four sports leagues because they got the most political, all the leaks of some extent have gotten more political than they once were, but the NBA really just like, I remember during the bubble season they put Black Lives Matter on the court. They let players offer their political takes on things left and right. And that's not a great place to be. We want one of the top roles of building a good team and effective team is that you're not divided by politics. You're one team and you don't talk about these issues that have nothing to do with the MBA. Popovich has a long history of offering his political takes. This becomes a no surprise to me that he says something like that. Well, I don't mind is giving his hot political takes, but if he's gonna give it take on Hitler, genocide, slavery in Columbus, somebody ought to ask him about the Uighurs and the ongoing genocide in China from which he profits yes and so much of sorry, someone should ask the silver and someone should ask a lot of the players who play in China, you know, what they think about that. Not so much more relevant, timely issue for the NBA, at least, but you're right, that there's sort of a double standard and you don't get the type of scrutiny. You're going to open everything up to politics. You might as well should be talking about issues that directly affect the NBA and the bottom line. And if you're going to hijack if you're going to hijack a basketball press conference to rant about Hitler in Columbus, you're going to get asked to China question if you have a real
China pledges $230 million for biodiversity fund at UN meet
"China's pledge to thirty million dollars to establish a fund to protect biodiversity in developing countries president xi jin ping speaking by video to a U. and conference who's called on other countries to contribute to what is called the Kunming biodiversity fund the weeklong meeting marks the formal start of a new round of global talks on protecting the world's plants and animals from extinction the world has so far failed to reach most of the count to ten year goals known as the Aichi biodiversity targets set in Japan in twenty ten environmental group Greenpeace says countries need to focus on not just sitting you targets but also meeting them I'm Charles de Ledesma
Cyberattacks concerning to most in US: Pearson/AP-NORC poll
"A poll finds most Americans are seriously concerned about cyber attacks on U. S. computer systems the survey from the Pearson institute anti piano worse the center for public affairs research comes amid a wave of ransomware attacks and cyber spying campaigns that compromise sensitive records and led to shutdowns of energy companies hospitals and others the poll finds about nine in ten Americans are at least somewhat concerned about hacking and about two thirds of very or extremely concerned roughly three quarters view China and Russia as major threats the broad consensus could boost government efforts to force critical industries into increasing their own cyber defences Sager AMAG ani Washington
Taiwan won't 'bow to China' and will fortify defenses, says president - Business Insider
"Taiwan's president has vowed to defend the island to get China's rising pressure for reunification a celebration small Taiwan's national day president Tsai ing Wen promised to resist Chinese military threats we will do our utmost to prevent the status quo from being unilaterally or exits a rash so Taiwanese defense capabilities in the annual parade on the line to the stars to maintain Taiwan serenity we will continue to bolster our national defense and demonstrate on determination to defend ourselves in order to ensure that nobody can force Taiwan to take the ball China has laid out for us China claims Taiwan as part of its national terror tree well they the island has been self ruled since it split from the communist ruled mainland in nineteen forty nine alter long civil war I'm
Journalist John Solomon Discusses Biden's China Weakness With Donald Trump
"We are joined every week by one of the few journalists left in america. He is the creator. The editor in chief of just the news dot com. You can follow him at a john. Solomon reports jay solomon on jay solomon reports on twitter and his podcast is john solomon reports. And i think you've had a very special guest. Who wasn't john yes. President trump was just on my podcasts. A few moments ago. Just finish up the interview before he came into the studio here and he he talked about china and taiwan and that taiwan would not happy enduring. The intimidation is undergoing now if he were president blamed it on the weakness of joe biden is foreign policy failures and really laced into the justice department for announcing last night. It was opening investigations into parents. Who can school boards over critical race. Theory saying that you would think in america parents would say over their children's education what they're being taught but the left doesn't think that's
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Explains How Two Democratic Bills Are a Recipe for Instant Socialism in America
"With us is congresswoman. Marjorie taylor green. Who is calling for everyone to do what they can to try. And tell the senate not to raise the debt limit congresswoman. Are you there. Yes hi charlie. Thanks for having me on your show. You bet you sent out a tweet saying everyone needs to call the senate switchboard. Let's take a step back. Walk us through the significance of this and the latest when it comes to the fights happening in washington dc. Okay well just to break it down. Everyone needs to understand that the democrats are working very hard to pass to ells the infrastructure. Bill which is almost one point two trillion dollars and the budget which they had it at three point five trillion. Then they took it up to four point three trillion and that's when mansion and cinema and the senate said no. We will not vote for this. It's too much money. But here's what you all need to know about. Both of these bills them for structure bill is not about paving roads or building. Bridges it's really about socialism as a matter of fact almost about round six percent of the infrastructure bill only goads towards real infrastructure roads and bridges. The rest of it is full on socialism with big programs in even seven point. Five billion dollars that will build five hundred thousand electric vehicle charging stations all over the country because they want to force america on electric vehicles which will force us to be energy independent or energy dependent. I'm sorry on china and then the budget. The budget is even worse. The budget is full passage of the green new deal and more socialism. These will be programs will never be able to undo. It will fully wreck our economy and hurt americans in the future
CIA creates working group on China as threats keep rising
"The Central Intelligence Agency says it's creating a top level working group on China CIA director William burns calls China the most important geopolitical threat of the twenty first century now the agency is creating a China mission center part of a broad government effort focused on countering Beijing's influence the Biden administration has warned of what it describes as rising Chinese aggression on a range of security and economic issues at the same time it sought common ground with Beijing on issues like climate change in North Korea the C. I. A. says it will ramp up efforts to recruit Chinese speakers it's also creating a mission center focusing on emerging technologies in global issues such as climate change and global health Ben Thomas Washington
"s. china" Discussed on Immigrantly
"Because basically told me that there was no quote unquote unfounded abuse. And what that told me. Was you know my childhood was as it should be. And i just felt like an additional of asia and also in hindsight right even as thirty something year old women looking back at my fifteen sixteen year old self. That was one of the bravest things absolute I could have imagined and it just hurt me so much that i did that. And the result was that someone had common come to the house interviewed salmi and said everything is fine and so that was my initial response just the pain and the the feeling of being erased and silenced once again But then you know. As time passed i began to think about all of the other people like me that need help. And that you know are being abused and yet the system finds that there is no abuse in that it's unfounded Maybe at some point. When i started writing it was to feel like i could I would have a place in the space to tell my story But once that happened. I felt like i needed to the more important thing was the bigger story in the book and taking a look at our society in how we shape. Both our families and our society was a really really long process I think you know when you spend about a decade on a book. After a few years you'd be into wonder you know what is the legacy i leave What do i want. What's my point. Why am i you know recounting all of these awful memories and reliving nomin telling them again and so for me. I felt like there had to be a bigger story. And i hope that You know other immigrants other people of color will read it and feel less alone I think we are often one of the reasons we feel. Silenced and Marginalize is because we don't hear stories like our own in the mainstream in. It's not a mainstream narrative through so. I think you know that sort of the work that i want to do talking about the story in what is these sink. Writing is also a statement on issues in culture and politics. Yeah i think. The personal is political I think that. I don't know if this is the same for For the culture you come from but because china was a communist country. We were taught very much to kind of keep our heads down and Try not to get killed So there isn't the streak of resistance. That is innate I think that is changing for my generation. The future generations. Thank god. But i think you know emitting that the personal is political is is work that as asian americans we have to do. That's true and what is family to you now Family to me is. It's mostly my friends i have. I'm very lucky. I am recently engaged in here. So i think actually that has had a huge impact on me. You talk about. How like you lean on your family for everything. I think one of the reasons is taken me this long to write this book is because i've never had that and it wasn't until i met my partner now that i you know i think back on it and i see it in hindsight and you know you do need to be grounded. You do need some sort of stability your life and and it just took me this long to be stable and the book came out you know. I think i would have liked to be younger of course when When the came out. Why do you think you would want to be younger. I don't feel like ten. Years is a long time to spend on a book now. But you've done such a brilliant job. They dog about how you've it took you. I don't know how many times to rewrite your introduction right. Yeah and i think ability is something to also look at I teach now. But i'm constantly thinking about the way we teach Just people of color Because mfa programs especially writing is very white very male centric. And so yeah. I think that's really important. Think about in terms of writing. That's another context of rental and cultural expectations. No nipple in immigrant communities have right. You want your kids to excel in sciences and for some. It may be problematic but being first generation immigrant. I can understand why. Immigrants want their kids to excel in those particular disciplines But was that a problem. How did you decide to choose. This craft despite assuming resistance from family. Yeah i mean. There wasn't so much resistance from family more more so as you know growing up i think Again you know. I was the first kid in my family to go to school. So like also you have to think about you know our immigrant parents. What they think is a job that is stable and please ball right. So those are the jobs that they're going to be promoting And they promote it very very strongly But one thing about immigrant. Parents that you know as i was writing this book i began to think about. Is that when you take immigrant. Parents out of their native country. They are no longer a part of the parents. They're not no longer connected to the community of parenting. That happens in their former culture and then when they come here. They're you know it takes them a long time. It takes them a long time to integrate into so You know there's of many of us are reasonable weird silo of parenting right because our parents are trying their best but all they have to work with is sort of This memory of what it means to be a parent how to be a good parent and anything that is really important to think about too When we think about How our parents pressure awesome where it comes from y right like i think we need to question. Our parents is education where they come from how they were raised and why they think the way they think. And whether that's right for us. Now yeah i love it because you present so much nuance into how you view your parents experiences right. I am that Who is navigating two cultures. Who wants their kids to excel in certain disciplines. Because i think we don't have the kind of support system. That i probably could give them back in vegas fun. That's what i like about your book as well nuance that in. Which only people who've had these lived experiences cannot your generous with your description and your analysis of what is and what can be. And what do you hope the kind of impact your book would make on communities in general and your community in particular. Ya that's That's something i. I'm sort of facing but not really facing because of the language barrier for example a lot of people ask me if my mother's read my book and you know i like to be ignorant and be like oh she doesn't read english But you know. I think when it comes to the community as a little bit harder to say i think i think one of the reasons i felt so silence was also to be living in new york In the ninety s and the arts and You know growing up with a narrative that felt very dated. Um sweatshops. Still in queens. And you know it's not just one sweatshop there many many sweatshops and that the culture of these families are they feel so backwards and yet they're all living amongst us and that's another reason why i felt silenced. The pressure of the silence isn't just from my family. It's from the community as well right the community of my public school Of like me telling my teacher at a really young age that No one can help me with homework. And it's like they don't understand why that is Is this your white schoolteachers. Yeah i pretty much only had white schoolteachers. I'm like when was zo And that was you know. And so i felt like i had to protect my parents in a weird to Because they didn't understand the culture and they were working really hard so i would say like you know. My parents worked till late. They can't come and you know. Pta meetings my teachers were be like well. We have late hours. Open 'til eight and it's like oh it's not late enough. I mean my parents couldn't go but then on the other hand you know. I don't know how much they really cared to make it. So it's it's hard. Because i you know i try to be really clear about that. You know what's sort of their fall and what they should own. And what is you know pressures of society. I would say you know like family comes also from a lineage of. I don't know if you know. I'm sure this is similar to your culture. But like chinese culture there used to be multiple wives And so the idea of multiple wives you know their kids being favored in what way and why because of their status is sort of what we're looking at in terms of why that's for my mother. If you think about it. Yeah because again you have to think about. She was previously married. She didn't think she was going to have another chance to get married. She married up And there were all of these rules and right ways to do things that she didn't understand and Didn't know how to navigate. And so so much of it was from fear and she just wanted to be perfect. Unfortunately at your expense. Yeah absolutely expense. And i think that is the cost of immigration for her. Absolutely i before we wrap up a wig and people find your book because i really want people to read. You can find it pretty much anywhere any bookstore if you're ordering online you can order at bookshop Also it's on amazon is available anywhere. Books are so wonderful. And in the end. If you would describe america.
"s. china" Discussed on This is Why
"Seems obvious given you know how important china is but at the same time. One of our colleagues producers global news also noted that china didn't often make the news back then for the wrong reasons like russia so often did And it's incredible to to recall that conversation now because what a difference two years can make right. I mean con- china is now constantly dominating the headlines and accused of behaving badly whether it's taking hostage diplomacy in the the arrest of the two michaels. Of course their detainment. Since december twenty eighteen china's accused of them sewing disinformation around the pandemic trying to undermine trust in western vaccines for example And cracking down on its own. Wieger population The arrest of wieger canadian so suddenly now over the last two two and a half years. We've really seen china assert itself on the world stage in a way that we hadn't before there's been five episodes out so far. You've got a six episode coming out this weekend. I but the thing that i find interesting is that this series this season started not with the pandemic which at that point we were a year in why was cove nineteen. Not kind of you're jumping off point for this yet. It's a good question. I mean we actually originally planned to make kobe. Nineteen jumping off point. And we did we do. Cover it in episode three which is focused on. You know it's called wuhan. It's focused on. Hand is sort of seen as the original epicenter of the pandemic but also explores how beijing really kind of capitalized on what has become the worst health crisis in modern history But yeah i mean. I think we decided instead to start with the issue so called hostage. Diplomacy you know. The arrest of the two michaels cover can spat or of courses constantly in the news on the minds of a lot of canadians and has really become. I think. Probably decentral sticking point in relations geopolitically between canada and china of course has wrapped in there as well So yeah we decided to start with that. Because i think it was interesting to me. The the two michaels get a lot of attention of course but they aren't the only canadians to a fallen Become the sort of geopolitical pawns in this broader chess match and gotten caught in the crossfire and become arrested in china. There were the garrett's julian kevin moore you from these e. We've traveled all over china. We lived all over china so we we're well aware and we had tremendous friends and we. We worked with anybody who wanted to work with us really. We met the garrett's in new westminster british columbia at their local church. There christians who devoted much of their lives to aid work in developing countries china in particular. I grew up attending church in a small town just outside of ottawa and the garrett seem like the kind of couple who would greet you at the church entrance on sunday mornings. Nice to meet you. there's also hussein lil wieger canadian. Who was who's been arrested now in detained in china for fifteen years without a single consular visit from a canadian official so yeah it was sort of a bit of a debate as to what to start with but we thought that given the attention that the michaels received the frac that the hostage diplomacy is so front of mind. And perhaps you know lesser known cases that don't receive as much attention as the two michaels. Do but offer a lot of insights into you know exactly how we might want to respond to china's so-called hostage diplomacy one month after sue bins arrest in bbc chinese state television broadcast news of criminal charges against the garrett's which were practically a carbon copy of the us allegations against zubin. China's foreign ministry says they are suspected of stealing intelligence related to the military targets and engaging in activities that endanger national security. It became clear that they had been arrested in retaliation for the arrest of sudan. Jeff that first episode. If that doesn't pull you into a podcast. I don't know what does that first episodes excellent You mentioned like like you said you started this When nobody was allowed to go into china how difficult was was putting the podcast together with not being able to visit the country. Yeah it's it's really difficult and was definitely frustrating. I mean you know for to do a podcast. On china without being able to travel to china is an obvious challenge and unfortunately the plan initially had been to go but then the pandemic essentially thwarted those plans like so many others and then we thought about waiting it out and then it turned out. The beijing actually banned all travelers from from canada and other countries due to cope at nineteen so we decided to proceed without being able to go. And we've done it in par by teaming up with a group of terrific brave f- freelance journalists and camera people in china in wuhan in beijing have been conducting interviews for us than the other. You know the real realistically i mean. There was also only so much that you can do on the ground in china these days as a working journalist and we've talked to people western journalists who have worked there have been kicked out of the country recently because china's really crackdown is accused of really cracking down on the freedom of the press including western journalists. And so we're doing a lot of these interviews from canada. Yes and also relying on some of the previous reporting that i and others have done on the ground in china And sort of just getting trying to convince anyone to talk to you in china on in person or over the phone. These days has been incredibly difficult. And so you will meet characters through our series who you know. Some of them are very brave and speaking publicly. Some of whom have faced death threats as a result and some of whom have insisted on remaining anonymous because they had a story to tell there is simply too afraid to tell it publicly and putting their names to it it was december. Twenty nineteen and bin jiang. His wife and their two young children were planning a trip to china in time for chinese new year been is in his mid thirties and lives in calgary alberta. He grew up in central china and says most canadians had never heard of his hometown until last year. So you've been to china. you've you've met. I assume many chinese nationals chinese people in the country. I'm wondering if an through this series you can speak to a lot of what the chinese government does a wondering if you or how in your mind you separate the people from the government of china. Yeah and that's a hugely important distinction. And of course and it's one that you know we've really stressed as often as possible through the series that we are. There is obviously huge difference between the chinese government and the chinese people chinese canadians. Who are you know. An amazing part of our country and often that distinction can be lost on people. I mean we were wary of doing this series at a time where we are seeing a sharp rise in anti asian racism and racist attacks in canada And actually one of our later episodes will be focused entirely on that and on the rise of anti asian racism because this is the challenge and it was a debate in our in our newsroom out of responsibly. To a podcast about a government in china that is accused of a slew of human rights abuses accused of carrying out genocide on its weaker minority Accused of intimidating and threatening chinese canadians living in canada. And so how do we start to focus on that. We'll also make it absolutely clear that we're not talking about ordinary chinese canadians And that's you know that's a struggle. I think unfortunately there will be people who hear negative stories about china and and you know have racist response to it. But i think we have basically tried to account for that concern by stressing as often as possible that distinction and also as i say in this series by focusing hearing on the stories from ordinary chinese canadians who have been either targeted in their minds by chinese government or targeted by racist attacks from people who have basically turned the negative press about beijing into fueling their own racist. Awful bay. I wanted to to get into more kind of the government side of things with the with in china specifically in your in your wolf warrior episode you into some of the albeit rare but available biographical detail of president xi jinping. Now she took power of the pr. See people's republic of china in twenty thirteen so it's been about eight years for world leaders to really get to understand and learn who she who president xi is. I'm wondering do you think that they have done that. Study learned who who she is and how to best handle As you earlier mentioned that that so called wolf warrior diplomacy yeah. It's a it's a good question because You know as you noted. I mean these. Xi jinping has been in charge now for coming on a decade and yet he remains. You know this sort of mysterious figure. And i think the you know the lack of understanding and this is across the board has become kind of a common theme refrained that we have heard over and over again and interviews for this podcast. Is that canadians. Including you know canadian. Canada's leaders and western leaders generally just have a poor understanding of china chinese culture and the chinese communist party and that continues to be a problem particularly as it pertains to questions around how western countries should respond to this new style of chinese aggression. The chinese government aggression that has been dubbed wolf warrior diplomacy. This is almost a traditional chinese leaders that they don't see biographies region about the leader's a well. They're stew in power in this one because the chinese traditional culture that you don't write a book about a person who is you alive because he's life has not ended in another reason is a while for someone who is who is doing power. If you won't ride about fee is very difficult to have accomplished story. A thing was she didn't in particular there's also the factor of the narrative being closely guarded and being closely managed by a very complicated system of Of the message or the propaganda department if you will but by combining the official version of events with other interviews and details we can piece together an outline of sees early life and it offers some insights into the man who would become president so in episode three will four. That is one of the questions that we really tried to explore as to you know how. How should canada and its allies respond to this bold and brazen beijing. There are growing calls for canada for example to take a tougher stance for the trudeau. Government will often at times talk tough but it seemed reluctant to take any real action against china so some china watchers would like to see canada. Taking a tougher approach but others will point to australia as a case. Study where you know. An example of what can happen when a mid sized country tides to go it alone and stand up to china and australia has become beijing's favourite political punching bag. They have been targeted with a slew of economic sanctions. They have had their journalists kicked out of the country and on and on and on the the distinction there is. Australia's government relies heavily on china as a trading partner whereas candidate does not not nearly to the same degree But that is sort of metal are upper case. Studies in terms of you know how we should respond. And you i think to your original point there it starts with kind of growing. Our understanding of china of the chinese communist party of xi jinping himself is fascinating to see that sort of western countries trying to unite in the face of especially china's belt and road initiative where they're able to gather Curry economic favor of from a number of impoverished countries or or less less developed countries It's it's certainly setting up to be quite big Quite a big battle. Yeah and to that point. The china kind of sets up governments our governments. That aren't there's that. What options do they have right like. I guess that's the question for you. Jeff is what options to governments have when they have to deal with china if they're taking such a hard line. The vaccines is a great example. You know we're just going to send him to other countries if you're critical of us. So what options do governments have when let's say people are are taken hostage or they're dealing with a hardline from the chinese government. I think that's that remains an open question right. I mean in terms of how. How do you respond. What are your options. That is probably why we're seeing countries led by the united states. Who are saying look like. There is an argument that china's wolf warrior diplomacy might backfire here. Because what they have done by sort of throwing their impressive wait around on the world stage in this in the way they have in recent years is that they have basically really soured political opinion when it comes to the chinese government in western countries. We have seen in political or public opinion polls in canada. The united states all over the western world where the vast majority of people vast majority of canadians now have an unfavorable view of the government in beijing and that empowers our political leaders in turn to take a tougher response and a tougher tone with china. you know if a country like australia goes goes it alone. It's easy for china to use its economic weight against a country like australia but of australia. Teams up with canada and the european union in the united states becomes much tougher situation for russia to face So i think that remains one of the more popular arguments in terms of how to respond to all of this You know what is what is a small country or mid sized country due to stand up to china while they look to their allies and try and create more of a united response. So jeff when you started this this china rising projects and as you've been writing it and and and releasing it now. What are your hopes that your listeners will will take away after. Listening to the podcast. What what do you hope that they learn. Yeah it's a good question. I mean there's you know where we're aiming for about ten episodes through this series. Each episode covers completely different topic of the of course there are a lot of intersections But i just hope you know. I think that the biggest takeaway would really just be a greater understanding of beijing. I mean i think a wolf warrior episode wasn't important one at least for me because first of all it allowed us to look in depth at the current president of china who unlike say vladimir putin who many canadians know and probably know his story. She's paying is a mystery and you know i think china largely remains a mystery to a lot of canadians. Who you know. Of course. Not the chinese canadians but others Who for whom the culture the politics the thinking can just might seem very very unfamiliar. Very you know very strange. And i think that's a problem because china is a hugely important country politically economically in the late. Nineteen nineties a joint. Rcmp's ceases intelligence report called project. Sidewinder concluded that the chinese government and asian criminal gangs or in fact working together in drug smuggling nuclear espionage and other criminal activities that threaten canadian security but at the time. That report was quietly shelved until it was eventually leaked to the globe and mail newspaper in two thousand sparking allegations that ottawa try to bury the report. So as not to antagonize china at the time the liberal government was trying to encourage more trade deals between the two countries. Some academic and media reports have claimed that beijing occasionally employs triad bosses to work towards shared goals and crackdown on dissent in foreign countries while others condemn those claims as nothing more than unsubstantiated conspiracy theory and. I think you know there is a. There's a real debate growing now whether we should be you know continuing to try to to see china's a partner whether we should see beijing is more of an adversary but you know it's not a greatly informed debate in my opinion I think i don't think people have a great understanding of china. Generally and i think you know we're hoping to try incorrect that here and i mean i think even as journalist it's been an absolute pleasure to delve into these issues and i've learned so much through the reporting on this that i didn't know before and it has helped grow my understanding of china and chinese politics in the communist party president xi jinping and i hope it helps other people as well this is why produced by me. Adam toy and dave mcivor. It's a national radio. Show and podcast. You can reach us by email at this. Is why global news dot ca and on twitter at this is why we're available on apple podcast spotify or wherever you find your favorite podcast and if you like what. 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"s. china" Discussed on This is Why
"A look at russia and vladimir putin. Yeah it's interesting. Because when we released the first season in this series now russia rising it was about two and a half years ago and there was a lot of interest in it which was great. That's jeff simple global news senior correspondent and host of china rising. But there was also some discussion at that time for myself. My colleagues you know what we might want to do next and someone suggested at that time that perhaps we should explore china in subsequent series And you know it seems obvious given you know how important china is but at the same time. One of our colleagues producers global news also noted that china didn't often make the news back then for the wrong reasons like russia so often did And it's incredible to to recall that conversation now because what a difference two years can make right. I mean con- china is now constantly dominating the headlines and accused of behaving badly whether it's taking hostage diplomacy in the the arrest of the two michaels. Of course their detainment. Since december twenty eighteen china's accused of them sewing disinformation around the pandemic trying to undermine trust in western vaccines for example And cracking down on its own. Wieger population The arrest of wieger canadian so suddenly now over the last two two and a half years. We've really seen china assert itself on the world stage in a way that we hadn't before there's been five episodes out so far. You've got a six episode coming out this weekend. I but the thing that i find interesting is that this series this season started not with the pandemic which at that point we were a year in why was cove nineteen. Not kind of you're jumping off point for this yet. It's a good question. I mean we actually originally planned to make kobe. Nineteen jumping off point. And we did we do. Cover it in episode three which is focused on. You know it's called wuhan. It's focused on. Hand is sort of seen as the original epicenter of the pandemic but also explores how beijing really kind of capitalized on what has become the worst health crisis in modern history But yeah i mean. I think we decided instead to start with the issue so called hostage. Diplomacy you know. The arrest of the two michaels cover can spat or of courses constantly in the news on the minds of a lot of canadians and has really become. I think. Probably decentral sticking point in relations geopolitically between canada and china of course has wrapped in there as well So yeah we decided to start with that. Because i think it was interesting to me. The the two michaels get a lot of attention of course but they aren't the only canadians to a fallen Become the sort of geopolitical pawns in this broader chess match and gotten caught in the crossfire and become arrested in china. There were the garrett's julian kevin moore you from these e. We've traveled all over china. We lived all over china so we we're well aware and we had tremendous friends and we. We worked with anybody who wanted to work with us really. We met the garrett's in new westminster british columbia at their local church. There christians who devoted much of their lives to aid work in developing countries china in particular. I grew up attending church in a small town just outside of ottawa and the garrett seem like the kind of couple who would greet you at the church entrance on sunday mornings. Nice to meet you. there's also hussein lil wieger canadian. Who was who's been arrested now in detained in china for fifteen years without a single consular visit from a canadian official so yeah it was sort of a bit of a debate as to what to start with but we thought that given the attention that the michaels received the frac that the hostage diplomacy is so front of mind. And perhaps you know lesser known cases that don't receive as much attention as the two michaels. Do but offer a lot of insights into you know exactly how we might want to respond to china's so-called hostage diplomacy one month after sue bins arrest in bbc chinese state television broadcast news of criminal charges against the garrett's which were practically a carbon copy of the us allegations against zubin. China's foreign ministry says they are suspected of stealing intelligence related to the military targets and engaging in activities that endanger national security. It became clear that they had been arrested in retaliation for the arrest of sudan. Jeff that first episode. If that doesn't pull you into a podcast. I don't know what does that first episodes excellent You mentioned like like you said you started this When nobody was allowed to go into china how difficult was was putting the podcast together with not being able to visit the country. Yeah it's it's really difficult and was definitely frustrating. I mean you know for to do a podcast. On china without being able to travel to china is an obvious challenge and unfortunately the plan initially had been to go but then the pandemic essentially thwarted those plans like so many others and then we thought about waiting it out and then it turned out. The beijing actually banned all travelers from from canada and other countries due to cope at nineteen so we decided to proceed without being able to go. And we've done it in par by teaming up with a group of terrific brave f- freelance journalists and camera people in china in wuhan in beijing have been conducting interviews for us than the other. You know the real realistically i mean. There was also only so much that you can do on the ground in china these days as a working journalist and we've talked to people western journalists who have worked there have been kicked out of the country recently because china's really crackdown is accused of really cracking down on the freedom of the press including western journalists. And so we're doing a lot of these interviews from canada. Yes and also relying on some of the previous reporting that i and others have done on the ground in china And sort of just getting trying to convince anyone to talk to you in china on in person or over the phone. These days has been incredibly difficult. And so you will meet characters through our series who you know. Some of them are very brave and speaking publicly. Some of whom have faced death threats as a result and some of whom have insisted on remaining anonymous.
"s. china" Discussed on The Cave of Time
"Us military is very interested in space x in the chinese military is very interested in this space stuff like this go to the moon this mine asteroids. It's really dope. I want that to happen. But the bigger thing by far is military applications across the board right was a military system and actually combat between the united states and china is very. It's going to be if it does happen. It's gonna be very much in sort of the electromagnetic spectrum and space. China was very traumatized by desert storm in nineteen ninety-one which showed that his entire military would be destroyed by smart weaponry. The us is basically trolling through space in communication system. So it's been evolving since then and it knows that it has to basically attack all sorts of us satellites space positions communication systems and all that infrastructure so tries both developing that capacity and he wants to imitate back replicate that capacity and move it forward and then the other stuff the go to the moon but go to that. That is super popular in china as a china. It's a great nation and that space is worthy of it. That's kind of like us like we're like yo were the frontier americans at the final frontier. So what do you mean. The chinese are going to be on the moon before us. What's up biden. that's not wrong. I kind of agree with that too. I want this to happen. I really am big fan of all that With the chinese stuff is the major thing to worry about is basically military applications behind the scenes because the the gist is a really really really impressive. American commercial space sector. That's emerged and it's better than the european one which is really small undercapitalized and then the russian one is basically rusting away like. I don't know if you guys saw. There's basically like russian like rockets. Basically like not working. In astronaut driving to inject hole appearing spacecraft their their satellite industry is basically broken and they recently launched module to the national station that his old and fired.
"s. china" Discussed on The Cave of Time
"Basically at this point just a way to keep producing all the things that they don't usually need anymore in china. You don't need ports in china anymore. They have more ports that anyone ever needed ever anywhere. So there's going to build them all across africa going to build them also across southeast asia. I mean yeah you'll have maybe you'll have a military base one day but really just want to keep people employed we want people you don't want to have an entire industry disappeared and it's the same with railroads the same with all this stuff like you look at africa. There's basically want. There's like one natural resource center of africa country and there's a port and as a rail line built to the paradigm for what a neo colonial sort of resource extraction process. Would look because they don't they don't particularly care and a lot of africans were leaders in dictators and various people but they're all involved because it gives them money this this idea that other countries are going to be like us china to play off the united states. Really good luck to them. I really encourage them to maybe think differently. Because the best thing to do a great thing to do if you're china or if you're trying to emulate china trying to copy their surveillance technology that's what we're seeing nicaragua's doing it. They're buying wholesale china's sort of the They don't have to have as much past but basically their digital infrastructure their surveillance technologies. There's sort of policing capabilities. They're selling that around the world to assist authoritarian regimes. That's a that's a major sort of expert. That's a major sort of connection with china. That is i mean you try to emulate their system and you might be dependent on their proprietary technologies all kinds of stuff. That's something really real. And that's kind of more than all this stuff about the vaccine. I feel like we're getting too caught up in the not not in this conversation. Just in general were still so in the the the cova crisis we're not gonna realize that when covert is over the world is going to be a completely different place and we're gonna be blaming it on covert and a lot will be accelerated by cova. But what's really happened. Is the end of this globalized world that we've lived in since the end of the cold war this moment of like you said the the liberal world order and democracy flourishing and cap every country developing and everything. Everyone coming together. That's that's over a lot of reasons why that's That piques my curiosity. So you're of the opinion that we are ultimately moving towards a less globalized world. The globalized system that the super globalized world that we've had since the eighties. That star really got acceler with china. China profited from is. Yeah it can't it can't sustain itself and the the great you know the simplest reason why is because all of it was basically sustained on the united states the united states was the consumer market that bought everything japan was able to develop by selling all the stuff that built to the united states germany was able to develop by all those vw bugs to the united states. South korea developed same reason. China developed primarily the same reason all this nationalism. The united states this total anger against the rest of the world. I mean building for a long time flourished under trump curling even more now with the rest with all these problems with the further by american united states..
"s. china" Discussed on The Cave of Time
"China for two decades. Sorry too because you lose your house you. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah but it seems categorically Superior the way china can think in the long term. Like that how how. How can the rest of the world compete with a country that by the political nature of the system within it can think long term like that. So china was able to think so. There's a bit of a myth in inside that part of it is like we're looking back like oh my god. This is a four thousand year. You know country. Will they say five thousand years like thirty five to thirty five hundred years to four thousand five thousand fake term. the say oh my god. They've been around for so long and the wise mandarins have returned. They can plan. That could look so far in the future. And all that the what actually happened since nineteen seventies china could see what it needed to do it knew the roadmap it could copy japan and germany japan germany and south korea for the export oriented industrialization which is how it modernized. It could copy the united states from any of it. Systems it copied. The cdc copied all the regulatory commissions. A copy of the stuff. And the i'm not trying to say china's only copying things but when you're doing your modernizing and you have a roadmap you actually can plan out all this stuff so in the united states right now. We have a big challenge over industrial policy. This questions emerging of like. Hey are we gonna start in the conservative. Framing is picking winners and losers in all these industries. Are we gonna say. Hey we want this electric car instead of this and conservative say blah blah blah. We want competition. That will choose the right answer. The left says no. We have to invest in certain things. And now we're reaching a point where china's been doing industrial policy for so long clearly successfully. That like hey. it's clearly not total bs. But the difference. The the challenge today for us and.
"s. china" Discussed on The Cave of Time
"Kong briefly talking about tencent briefly talking about just the way china's clamping down.
"s. china" Discussed on Political Analytical
"That is a first time. I've ever seen james without a comeback candid camera bitch. You know what it was there. rick rick. He was sitting here. Thinking about gordon did it. And what is the fact. That wants you to seal. That's right you know what it was. It wasn't the fact that could hear anything. It was just that look of relief in your eyes. That math organism. I even beautiful shit's going to it. Maybe if i make faces something. I was just like daniel. Danielle's laughing her off. Oh my god she knows it could be worse than sitting down in a quiet bathroom. Bonus echo echo echo. Yeah be like now. Well anyway you were saying he. He did tell them himself last night. Danielle but you know what i've known it before. But i figured since he told himself. I just call them out on tonight. It's guys talking about crt earlier. One of the most and this is sad to report but one of the most cherished and one of the most thought about organizations in the united states of america is now prolific hitting to crt through their group will never never believe who this group is. The boy scouts. The girl scouts. The girls erica are now advocating. Crt and though you know people that's pissed off about that and basically they're gonna refuse to buy the cookies you know. The boy scouts and the girl scouts is pretty much the same thing it is now. Yes it is. Yeah unless you do. The crocodile dundee. Well that's not a dick. This is just my god okay. So let's get back to china on that one. Thank you so rick. What were you going for when you started talking about this. Whole china takeover. What what is the end result..
"s. china" Discussed on Political Analytical
"That's the kind of particular is that we're looking at the essence of saying that. That's how democrats are running the states. Now they don't care about you and me they don't care about the gop they don't care about congressional hearings they don't care about anything except themselves set situation bubble. I know and you know. It's i don't know man you know. I was watching the news the other day and it is frequent. Oh that reminds me speaking of watching the news that brings up another topic for tonight. Did you know rick warren. That a baby. Two to three years of age can be racist. Some of the guys. I had a call from work at a. Would you repeat daddy. They are saying now that a baby two to three years of age can be racist. There are pushing critical race. Theory even to infants never met one there saying by age five and this is in for the whiteys by age five. Why kids are ready pushing black kids out of their little group. Because they're not the same color they are bullshit that it's the biggest hogwash. Crap story i've ever heard in my entire life and one of the toy companies is the one doing really. Let me guess Mattel mattel go with genetic nope nope mattel toys tyco. It's harz bror. Yeah yeah guy. Sal bear the ones hasbro. That's that's eight runs at hasbro. Yeah thank you danielle yeah. She knows she knows the kitty. Companies chino's our asses dump so they're pushing critical race theory on their employees and talk and how young infants can be racist. You know you know you hear stuff like this and you just can't believe the amount of stupidity coming out of people's mouths i swear to god. These are some of the most dumbest. Mfs you've ever seen or heard in your life. Where do they come up shit that. Crt they're trying to push these schools. There's a lot of teachers. That's not happy with that. There's a lot of companies not happy with. There's also a lot of companies in schools that are go along with it These are dangerous times With this with the crt movement it's a movement it's the same thing be eliminate in antifa which seen the latest antsy Mugshot collage today. Which is hilarious. Have to say either way This whole thing is just man. It's bullshit episode And i don't know what's gonna take But where in down pretty dark place in a pretty dangerous place you know like think about ten years ago fifteen years ago she would like this man you know just. There's a lot of injured snowflakes out there you know in. How do you deal with that. You can't just sleep on it and say okay. Well i just got to look at it and go to bed. You gotta deal with it because it's every day you can't just sleep all day. Here's the problem is that people have a tendency where they get so and and you know i'm guilty as well. You know where you don't wanna hear anymore this shit you really don't. It's so stupid and so dumb that literally you you lose brain cells just listening to some of this shit coming out of people's mouths but there's a good thing so this right here..
"s. china" Discussed on Political Analytical
"I mean if we'd had our other administration. I don't think with that have ever come to a thought. I don't think it ever been talked about. But during this pathetic administration we have that going on and we have. We are the laughing stock. The laughing stock of not only america. But we're the laughing stock of the whole damn world. Eddie because what maidens doing that we are that we are going to read some articles that are kind of like headlines right now and you're gonna you're you're probably not going to be surprised but This is just in congressional caucus takes major action to remove authoritarian pelosi from speaker position. Well i'll be dan. That's pretty good. Yeah let's see cnn. Lets the cat out of the bag. Admits what we've known all along about biden ruined digging into some of this stuff here a little bit senate panel announce his controversial vote Ratings just came in for biden. Cnn townhall in yikes legislators hit governor whitmore with real bad news and democratic representative arrested and escorted away in handcuffs. Yes sir how. And a doctor drops a bomb about biden on live. Tv something seriously as wrong. So yeah we've got a lot of stuff happening right now in a lot of it is actually in our favor some of it not so much but there's a lot of that is you know it is in our favor. Yeah the thing with What's going on now is that Thanks don't get to where they've been shaped up and shipped out. Whatever you wanna call it edi. We're looking at within the next month. Or two of actually the twenty fifth amendment being invoked upon biden the aforementioned Meeting that he just had was so pathetic and so disorganized his mumbling.
"s. china" Discussed on Political Analytical
"Coming to you. From the united states of america this is political analytical. I'm your host eddie hill along with rick. Warren and gordon park..
"s. china" Discussed on Dark Secret Place
"That a prominent for peter policy wrote that she. Ming chu a respected virologist and a former member of the chinese academy of sciences. Told him that. Quote the introduction of this nineteen seventy seven h one n. One virus was indeed thought to be due to vaccine trials involving several thousand military recruits with live h one n one virus close quote the the people's liberation army the chinese army. They were experimenting on their on their own soldiers. For the first time science itself seemed to have caused the pandemic while trying to prepare for it now for the second time in fifty years or questions about whether we are dealing with the pandemic caused by scientific research so that she opens up with that anecdote that i have never heard i have heard of that pandemic because i just sort of autodidact. My way around that history of pandemics i. I'd heard about that one but the fact that that that a chinese virologist as much as admitted that yeah that was that was trying to make a vaccine and experimenting on her own soldiers right back in the second more on this though the chinese her are finding out that anecdotally in many parts of the world. They're not very popular. We'll be back right after this replace. Brian sits in here till eleven. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio.
"s. china" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove
"Know what I think yeah. I think we've destroyed accurate or not Travis Travis. He's he's opened for donations from wealthy Chinese businessmen. Should we chop this up into two episodes? We can we come back. Next is going on. We'll be back next week. Areas of what Davina starting. You've got ten seconds wells' hanging in the at this point. Deny thank you seventy seven sixty forty one for China. That's the guy. Well seven people have stayed with us. We were as high as sixteen at one point. It's van narrow stay. I'm sure they've enjoyed. It is interesting of course with doing good onstage decreased out ignorance yes the Lynch is has a ripple effect where we no longer project. Wally and the only way longer is fearful male. We disagree just as much as we did in the beginning. This was a to concessions from trevor. I don't know how you do it. Work reasonable when coughing. A beast right idealist. See probably see you next week to split but anyway say God three S. fifteen minutes off. What Three Hundred Thousand Twenty minutes? That was good wells on and site. I'd I'd have one pool faced hod autumn here surprise you might astound you to know that. I to have walked in the long cool shadow. Oddity I was once so poor. I could only afford to drive in BMW. It breaks my heart to hear your story. And although people know me as a champion of the working man and as a man of philanthropy gift forgiving names and so it is hands full that you shall be known as Trevor Tinker Bell Jin Cabal. It has noble sound. Doesn't it no don't thank me tonight? You shall henceforth be known as Tinker Bell is reward enough..
"s. china" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove
"Confiscating private assets. Because they're in the firing long the not GonNa do it very often trevor. Because they don't need to. It's like everybody knows the way things work so they know if they push too hard in the wrong direction. They're going to be in trouble so it's just that threat hanging over them all the time they don't need to say basically signing any authoritarian state is Communist. No not because any authoritarian side could steal private property therefore is Communist. But what my points you are saying that no my point is that they still ultimately make the Chinese state ultimately still owns the means of production now just rented it strong in energy production and heavy industries but private enterprise is everything else they call it. President saying you'll roll timidly. It's all of. It would just signed any authoritarian states. Any dictatorship is communist. No not because you're saying at any point it can tight the means of production off private individuals because that's what you're saying is what makes China Communist not. I'm saying it started communist and it still communist because they've just basically Maciej D- The way that they own and control everything in other words they don't do it directly like in the old Marxist Leninist Leninist model but they still ultimately still own it. Because I think you're going to make any headway. Awesome for the Alibaba I know. Communism is about the the whole country owning the means of production. Now to it. There's another part but something happened with Alibaba. A couple of years ago didn't it? I'm sure there was something I read something and I don't remember the details. Come back to but that guy mark who owns the company and he was on the losing end of something that happened in the last zero to fear head now is he. But the taught to the communism definition is a theory will system of social organization. Which all property is. I'm by the community. And the second pot to the definition is and each person contributes and receives according to their ability in their needs. Now I think everyone in China contributes according to their ability and if that never happened an endless honestly Paul if you took marks in a time machine and plop them in China and said off man reckons this is communism. Don't tell me tell me. Wouldn't it laughing? Tell me he'd be very surprised. But let's face it. Marks died in the nineteenth century surprised. Tell me how this quick seats I probably in an employment. Ninety percent of new jobs affected so million privatises God this he would sign. It's on the you know what he'd sigh. He say. This is actually on the road to communism because Max Socialists. Recognize to come them night. Marks recognize the peasant economies could not move directly to communism. Hase theory was that the head to become industrialised and private enterprise and some sort of his phase of the capital the head to become industrialized through a phase of capitalism and then having achieved and it started industrialization like a thin guy back to move to a situation of socialism and communism might hang on. I've got it here. In Marxist theory. Socialism is a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism capital style. And you want to move towards communism. You've gotta go through a transitional FIS. Could you go to? The he was looking at peasant societies and said the peasants society had to move to a industrial capitalist society and then back to socialism and then communism so there was a step from peasantry that had to go to any dust royal society. It in his mind you could not guy from peasant to communism you had to Guy Vala industrial so just Chinese economy is successful. Tells me that it's a hallmark of communist as people stop Max would look at it and they would guy now wrong told you don guy from peasant to communism modern China. It's on track. This is what you have to do. And then you'll be able to head towards companies and you wouldn't look at it now you've achieved. Marx would get a shock if he visited any socal knocks. Nkohse cutting once you've taken over the world and your world domination then you can implement S- though would look at today's capitalist Saudi and and the liberal experiment and the ruination the toughening in America and elsewhere with ruination. Yes with drugs like simple drugs. Like what do you use for Diabetes Insulin Unaffordable in America? This sort of thing marks understood. Have Powell worked? And how capitalist would screw people. He understood it before anybody near. You might criticises you. Type in view of eventual Communist. Saudi would be but he understood hap. How worked and how America in a sense. He would look at America today and Guy Fucking told you side and what about Australia if you visited Australia? What would you say what to say? Look at the Liberals have done to you and say he would say well done come you on the ride to Communism because you've now industrialized you can actually. That's what inside. They do this and we might have to to add to already for the future. Let's look for you. I wanted this you put the standing nights and wouldn't've crystal bowl. There's definitely son in San for what for who for what for I try about. Inc become a vassal state attributes diet. Yeah I mean they. They are rising superpower economically. They're going to be big in the United States and in some regards they already are. I think future wars will be fought economically not with military. So it why matter how big the. Us's ANI's or you know how small the Chinese army's they'll they'll find other means of dominating they power in Western civilizations fan of democracy free speech human rights or justice and all of those things in audit sites actually stands full knitwear. Think please send much work for all of its faults for all of its flights looked at the Jerry the At moderate size again democracy free speech human rights and justice. Put it in justice and twist it. Just I'm not saying any of those things per human-rights. I'm not saying seriously think that all those things are better in China than in the United States. But we've gone two hours what it stands for. Why did you pick the US of picked any now? We're talking about Roy. Destroy me for those things to logic in just actually. We're talking about the battle between American over the the world superpower relied necessarily good and evil. But it's a different ideological viewpoint and I don't think there's any question that the American society and culture is for democracy a lot more than China I and there's no real argument there the much for free much bearing in line. I Race Jerry Moines. What we've said that Chinese culture in its recognition of unequal hierarchical relationships and the desire Fula harmonious prosperous economies civilization above personal yet. But that's culture. I know we shared culture. We wouldn't have a shared Culture With The when You oiled superpower which is not a good position to be but when you're sighing signing it from the point of view of which system because you're right you couldn't impose that system on us. We wouldn't accept it nice. I'm why the system imposed on mine because of at different not selling. I'm not saying that were culturally. We're closer to the US. I join us. Yes we'd find it more uncomfortable to be dominated by China. I mean I think the only thing really that concession here that do you ever go. I'm not sure well done what my would make. Aura diplomats justice. Do you think you have more faith in the American justice system than you do in the the by phone just giles. But we're talking levels here mainly we've got somewhat one's good and one's bag we're trying to choose the lesser of two evils here. Where would you rather stand trial in America or in China enjoy black in Alabama on a right trial talking about rights? We're just talking about. You're in trouble with the Government Maya weak- in China good point am I black Alabama M. I A wealthy tech guy in San Francisco or a princeling in China. Did Eagles get a trial? Point is depends who you are did. The WIG is a trial not do not understand the injustices that occur in America. We know if the in American so what I'm saying. Is there justices in both? It depends on your position society in each case. So I would rather be a princeling in China or then I black men in Alabama and a rape trial. So it's really strange comparison. We'll spring fling us to bet very much but Harley privileged member of the Chinese young and aisling entity the if you're an average American or an average China is a better comparison. Run without and you got to turn the trouble with the government. Where would you rather lie in trouble? Item? Where would you rather take on the government in a in a local one of mine China or in America? What am I in trouble? Light of some dispute over land title or maybe the government wanted to defend your. I would your land and they told you get lost. I'd rather be in America absolute right now if I was compromised immune system and I lived in. I busy metropolis city. I was fearful that if I got corona virus our die would I rather be in China will would. I'd rather be in New York as I pull black as a poor person in New York here. Wicker cleaning the subway or I pull person in Luhan as Clinton subway. Which one would. I rather be hyping to live longer. I'd rather be in Hong possibly simplisafe. America's medical system is so stuff so we don't know I mean we're GonNa talk back in nineteen next week. I hope but I mean we. We don't have any confidence of the numbers coming in that we have bad knees. Yawn are actually cry. Any country contacted me. And he's GonNa hopefully come on talk about your your flu theories. Let's not do that near but I'm just making the point. It depends on your situation saying in at times site. Look obviously. There are enormous problems in three speech. That doesn't exist in say free speech between America. Absolutely so and it is important. Isn't it free speech? You agree with that proposition but they're also pull people in America wyking seven dollars fifteen hour on the two jobs.
"s. china" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove
"Daikin Cy. You've insulted us so when you say there's only one time that we've insulted them. You can easily come up with others. Which from their point of view are an insult from their point of view. But my point is that if you look at the pattern of political interaction and relationships were not just a strategy but the leaders of Western countries since about nineteen eighty or since they started transforming to a market economy with the leaders have been bending over backwards to cultivate good relations with the his what we can do for every time you reckon. China shafted us all fall onto times the US shafted us. You don't comply anyway. Let me just funny off. There might be some parallels with our relationship with agree with you on that. Let me just finish off with military. She's scared the on is just GONNA come down. Invite us and we think we have to Casey up to America in order to save your sales because they too big way too small. We couldn't possibly defending ourselves say a lot of Australians are scared that it's born out of ignorance indeed. I'm not scared but after that podcast that you did with Han to my night. Yes yes yes. That was a great episode. Yeah you want to look that up on the website. Han To hike a little bit about China inviting heavily into that episode. And you want to be link to an article from Hugh Watt in the monthly. So he white wrote a book so he's a professor of strategic studies at these TV in Indefens- Studies Center Australian National University and the author of the book had to defend Australia disagree with these ideas about nuclear deterrent. But on other things I think he's I think he's spot on good in British show and basically what he is saying is that there's a difference between C control and see. Denial say control is where you can sal ships around an area of C. And quite confident. They're not going to be blown up that say control that see control say denial is way you can deny somebody who ability where you can you can look at an area of water and say we can stop anybody who wants to come across that area of water if we wanted to threaten. If you come into that area we'll blow you out. Which is what the Chinese are doing in the South China Sea exactly. It's a defensive thing. So from basically he is saying that because of modern technology with the ability to launch missiles and with submarines. It's it's it's really sign much. Easier to conduct say denial that is to conduct control meaning. It's much less expensive and much. More effective in the technology has moved that lie and is increasingly moving that Y Wayan with anti ship missiles and whatnot way in a land based off from aircraft or submarines one missile knocks off an aircraft carrier and portraits. Incredibly tough to control area of see comparatively easy to deny an area of say in so Australia Ken if we're willing to spend enough money on a decent submarine fleet and a decent aircraft. Great we can punch the nys of China if China today could not attack. Strahl could not do it. We could even with their megan defenses. At the moment we could stop them. And as China Spain's triumph own without as as China spend trillions of dollars guiding increasing naval power we only need to spend billions of dollars Because we're only doing see denial fancy French submarines. Yes well there are. Problems is the submarines that way. Barring the wrong ones too expensive. So he's basically saying we need more submarines more aircraft but essentially a country like extra can defend itself. We do not need the United States. We can't rely on them anyway. Ziying don't be so shit scared of China because we've just mentioned earlier on hammer neighbors. Have I got to deal with? Their focusing is in the defense of in that South China Sea. They don't want their building up a capacity so that America can't come across and invite them In America can't now they couldn't do it so that's their focus in. It's an understandable one given the history and from our point of view a if we spend what is an amount of money. That's not out of the ballpark where we can. We can easily defend this country. GonNa odd racing. The amount that they spend on military as well in recent increasing decreasing made as a percentage. It's a percentage of JJ WRONG. But it's still quite a lot. Isn't it that there's like six percent something identities? They're building ships at a rapid right. They're acquiring aircraft. The army is only about two million something like that. Still Quad love but in a population of one point three. Something Billion Irani is bigger than any other Army Man. Pale about two million but I'm not sure So so that's one of the thing just built in Rhode. It's really had to get an idea. What is this Belton? Rod China assigned to other countries. We'll help you build a bigger bigger piece of infrastructure will lend you money in. We've been critical of them in the past the podcast because it seems with some poorer countries that said he's big bunch of money in the poor country connery. Pyatt in under that it gets full fitted and the Chinese divining the port like they do in Sri Lankan Yup so it looks like Daniel Andrews in Victoria has signed some sort of nonbinding agreement under the built and rides gain with China outside from what I've read is not actually committed to anything except DECI by like the idea of built right now if all it is is China lending money for infrastructure. Then borrow more than you can handle and you'll be falling like Giannis invest in things. Why concerned there is that. I can't remember which body it is. But they've asked Daniel Andrews to hand over the details of the agreement that he saw runt and a lot of it was black dad and he said you don't need another data as he would well so he's people at pointing out the secrets. The federal government is Dale's he's done with With China even the federal government. Well into China. I know that I do so. They can hardly comply well. It's a odd non year lease. Yeah well sounds like Hong Kong in any event I can hardly complain. When landers dude infrastructure deal with John? Well you can't do that. Wait a minute you just sell the port of Darwin until a think that have raised into complying to say. Well if you've signed a deal let's see it well. As if the federal government sold a port in Dow to the Chinese there would that be nondisclosure all the deal that SAUNDH information be ready available to everyone on imagine under that Daniel. Angels aside and I'll tell you what abdominal done so there's something I read about the on the agreement he shouldn't. Yeah but the agreement is a non legally binding agreement that allows Victorian infrastructure experts to get access to the hundreds of billions of dollars of projects. Slide for built and ride like. You actually hasn't committed to anything it's just a memorandum of Understanding Memorandum of understanding. I read just in the last couple of days. Something about investment infrastructure investment in the South Pacific region. Australia is far and away. The biggest donor of aid money to the South Pacific countries. Far and away the biggest Jonah above China way above China woman. But I budget is is is a fractional. It was the point was my ally. We just sixty billion savings budget has gone down over the last numbers bishop but it's still far far more than China The the point that was made in the article I read was Australia gives. I'd for things like schools and hospitals and stuff that are sort of blended into the landscape. China gives big lump sum of money to build something like a new parliament building in somewhere like Somalia or somewhere Arou- rides or even structures lassie infrastructure projects with provide water and electricity. Out in other words people look at it and go all way that come from China gave us some money for whereas the Australian government and the New Zealand government. Something giving money all over the place but people don't notice it as much you know because it's in things that just blend into the land. That's interesting Right predictions for China for the future. Anybody got any prediction. Don't we have to decide? Is that a communist state or not already decided we've decided at the No. I haven't decided because I was thinking about this. And it occurred to me that the as we discussed if you WANNA even though there are private companies in China some of them quite big ones. They are still under the thumb of the Communist Party so in a sense that all land in China is basically state owned. Okay so you were talking about ownership of the means of production by the people it still exist still real and even if you buy a property even though you know ownership of land in apartments and things like that has loosened up and has become better in China in recent years but you still still ultimately. You don't own it. It's like a League statistics in two thousand and nineteen. Sorry can I just finish my point? Well because it's about Communist and why is that you've given a statement about it and Toronto? I haven't finished my point. My point is that I think the Communist Party have basically decided that if the old system of central control of the economy wasn't really moving fast enough or getting the results they wanted. They thought okay. We'll do it a different way. We'll pretend that people privately owned their own companies. Of course they ultimately if we want to take it back because the law is basically Communist Party. Lower it's not an not a separate legal system like we have here. They can change the law whenever they want they can requisition or take possession of whatever they want whenever they want basically so even though there's this veneer of a capitalist economy and it is sort of a capitalist economy ultimately the Communist Party and the Chinese State still owns everything so my reckoning is yes it is definitely still a communist system. They've just decided to do it a little bit differently. The Dinan Everything Pravda prizes expanded enormously with Iran. Thirty million private businesses recorded in two thousand and night in two thousand eighteen private enterprises in China accounted for sixty percent of GDP eighty percent of urban employment and ninety percent of new jobs. You might say aw. The communist party can just tycoon. But they can't because it's bigger than the party and powerful people will throw them out that they don't want the powerful people in the party own this shit so they don't want the party suddenly taking this stuff away from individuals because they might be one of the victims says. It's not going to happen. It's not in their interest to cy. You know what? Let's to suddenly start taking private stuff away from people under an authoritarian rule. Because they might they own enough personal stuff now that they're at risk of having that taken off them. Yes I might say doesn't have to sign off can just take it off them. But when you've got powerful people donating money. Messaging relationships networking E. CAn't decide juicy. Pink cannot simply say. I'm not happy with the either of alibaba. I'm taking business. He kinda should check out. What happened at Alabama at night because a year ago? You should understand how Powell wicks when you've got your your suggesting that the six hundred fifty eight as in China have no power no power. You're saying that. Have enough power to stop the Communist Party party in the cards and they all serious people. Making the decision in the Communist Party are part of that. Six hundred fifty. I'd millionare's and they're not about to start pushing a rock Danny Hill where suddenly the party can take start..
"s. china" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove
"Countries of part of the culture of the plies it's fair comment could say that's completely changed in the last twenty years or whatever. Bet You have more time fighting each other than fighting but you have to cy that external nice. I haven't been particularly interested in external matters historically pitch other well. Paul in terms of the basic shape of China as we know it to die is obviously at the edges. There's been movement to and fro but is kind of where it's banned for. A couple of millennials will not really like I call it a lot in Hun Hun Chinese civilization the Chinese proper. If you like was the north China plein and to some extent you know the Young River which flows into the sea around Shanghai or something so there were these two major areas of Han Chinese of the current populated areas and then they little by little move south and moved west into areas in the mountainous western South southwest and part of China and the northwest. In fact Manchuria was occupied by the Manchus or the MANCHUS. They call them which were a different ethnicity. Believe it or not and with a different language even but the Han-chinese who spoke basically Mandarin Chinese as we call it they. They spread out over a period of hundreds or thousands of us. They gradually spread out and conquered and incorporated all these outlying regions which rocky powered by ethnically different people as we know fifty-six ethnicities in China. They weren't always part of China. I can't the older generation and rural Chinese to value traditional culture in try to preserve and uphold it on the other hand. Chinese youths in city-dwellers tend to be more accepting an enthusiastic about progressive ideals. Nevertheless the country maintains a fundamental understanding of what it means to be Chinese and one of these things ease Confucianism so confucianism promotes. The idea is really important. Understand China I think so at the idea that relationships between people are unequal and that everyone should have defined hierarchical rawls for example for example ruler and subject husband. Wife Father and son. It teaches that when this natural inequality is accepted and respected It becomes easier to maintain ammonia stable relations between individuals and therefore in society as a whole the confusion. Logic of obedience responsibility and a hearings affects many aspects of China's behavior and attitudes about virtue and the sense of duty and societal. Cohesiveness is encapsulated in the principle of. Lee. I shall come. Easily extends all the way up to the emperor by the way cyrus than fighting for equality. There is an acceptance of unequal rawls and respect of what your role is and to perform that role in terms of the pack. Really the cycle in the interest of social cohesiveness. Now that's completely. That's very different to bomb. Lowest Western culture particularly American individual freedom is paramount. Sort of you know we are currently living in a patriarchal hell according on Ford or someone like what you're saying. So so so yes dealers nothing ebay about China they're nine that sort of confucianism sort of thing. Running through their thought process. There was also the idea of the mandate of heaven. Going to talk about I eastern mandate of Heaven was the idea that the gods whatever supernatural powers. They were What what's going on? And if the emperor or somebody in a position of authority falls out of favor with the with heaven or with the Gods something bad happens and there there were signs like if there's a flower door a natural disaster or war the people could interpret that as a sign that the emperor or whoever's in charge has lost the mandate of heaven. Okay all right okay. Also the Social Organization of China is characterized by people's interdependence individuals toward the keep to themselves and respect the law and authority to maintain societal hominy. The Chinese consider national unity and cooperation to be essential for society to function harmoniously. This is reflected in the most fundamental foundations of the culture for example all regions in China. Follow the same time zone. Despite the physical landmass spanning five geographical timezones this provides for national sense of belonging and equality also behind you communication in China influenced by the concept of ice individuals usually act deliberately and with restraint to protect their self worth and PIA perception. Conservative conduct is enormous. People don't want to stand out indoor risk losing face by doing something that is considered inappropriate Hawaii that in Japan as well sort of Nice curry much notice forgiving. Well not a bad forgiving. It's about what is six is about avoiding doing things that will pull someone to lose face. Bring yourself or your family into disrepute. Yes so we're now. Prime Minister says what the fuck on in China. Let's send in weapons inspector like people to soon beat up a little bit. He said no he said. We need to be out in people in without the consent of the country involved. I read the quote so but no mention of it didn't size off the but that's but essentially he said we need to be able to send people into China whether they lock it on not to check out what's going in the wet markets if something happens so when we talk about Chinese reaction to that understand like if you look I take your point. I don't think he said it repeatedly though did you only go site once he said. How's he lost Feis Now? The Chinese do when somebody says where we company allied with a history of foreign intervention with. I've had foreigners running around doing what I like for one hundred years of embarrassment eve. You obviously do not understand. Shine very sensitive. Know exactly exactly. That's the point so thank but he didn't WanNa come across his a pipe targa eighth. He had to be forceful. He had to assert his authority. The point is he was never going to get that. China was never going to concede that side. I bother asking instead to cy face for the Chinese. You would say look. What can we do together to cooperate so that in future when something happens what do you? China offer us like you. Just say wearing sponsor have been no bugger off. It might have been signed result really but now different result because under the first option. I China says fuck you now. We're GONNA look at Jebali and you'd beef and whatever else we might think about because you've caused us to lose face so under both. You're never going to get from them. The forced entry into the country. Why pissed them off is things are gonna get very poorly comment. Was it was stupid. Okay another concept is g U. I in X. on exotic kwan-jin. She wanted me like the principle of Guan gene commits friends family and at business colleagues to assist one. Another via lighting gone G. can lead to a loss of Faisal a jeep drawl and business. Inter interactions in relations refers to networking and the signing is inside as a different from outsiders. Side this whole idea of networking together do with somebody. Because you're part of your network more than because of a price or some other deal like sort of interconnected networking side. That's part of it. And here's the interesting. One is on politeness courtesy so perceptions of politeness and courtesy in China differ from those in Australia. Traditional Chinese could see rhys on the lifelong hierarchical relationships reflected in Confucian ideology those relationships already clear meaning the Chinese do not feel the need for constant verbal reinforcement through courtesy. Words like please thank you and excuse me. I can't say the relationship that we talk about of husband Wife master-servant the other ones we said which are unequal. They're they're now on. You don't need to use courtesy. Words like please thank you and excuse me because people know their place in the hierarchy and signing nice sorts of words creates a formality and distance. That should not exist in a culture archival annoyed when Scott Morrison topics to G Jing Ping He would not use words like please thank or excuse me indeed not one of his insiders but he would consider on the same level. Yeah used that. Can we please come into your country? And they're having having a lunch together and I'll get you an example with Scott Morrison and she's using having lunch together Ron. Those sorts of courtesy words actually created distance between people so they act as a buffer or spice indicating formality distance site from a Western perspective. The contrast Same confusing example when at a restaurant amongst friends. China's personal usually Porty for everyone present at the table before pouring there. I'm right yet. They might not say excuse me when asking for someone to pass them food or thank you. If someone's poured them a in indeed side visited rude because you've created distance leave inserted and unnecessary formality that is credited on. Cbs interesting isn't it? So I'm saying that why it could be perceived as rude from point of view but not from this Siam respect and courtesy are exhibited in different wise reviewed it to religion Confucianism to some extent religion and ethical system. Really WanNa talk about the fool on Falungong. Did you. Not because I wasn't getting with a a minor cult there was the real religion of the Chinese says to worship. Yes weight watchers. The Bali decision was luckily my some poetic license. I did that last week. We check. We've come on the facts even in the way of Trevor Joining Point. That's right we come. Just you went to some. But we'll move on where it was always fascinated by the Falun. Gong will go on talk about well. I get some not so the Falun. Gong is a new religious movement and boy knew it officially started in nineteen. Ninety-two me that combines. Meditation and Quing Gong exercises with a moral philosophy centered on the tenants of truthfulness compassion and forbearance the Chinese Communist Party views Falun Gong as a potential threat due twits saws independence from the state and spiritual teachings in nineteen ninety nine the CCP initiated a nationwide campaign with the intention of a radic. Hiding the practice. He's the good beat. The Felon Gong. Protease grew until April. Nineteen hundred ninety nine when I've Ten Thousand Falun Gong practitioners gathered near the Central Government compound in Beijing to request legal recognition and freedom from state interference said the biggest religion wanted separation of it and the state which is the complete opposite of religion or Christianity at least in Western countries they want to bring the state and religion as close together as possible So yeah so even to die the Chinese Communist Party trying to shut down these Falun Gong practitioners and been arrested. At least two thousand have odd. As a result of abusing custody and there is a say it is a threat to their to their rule and there are reports that the thousands of them were imprisoned And a lot of them and try to use August conducting Hogan Hop Stan. I don't think that would donate at some a lot event. The united with that they can send a lot of the Chinese assault solemn seekers I climbing asylum because of that really satisfying oops. I'm here if I go back. I'll be pissed kid. That's of the key reasons for seeking song Australia. It does sound like a bit of a cookie cult. I have to say what's the difference. China Helton No. There is no different but they. I don't know a lot about it. I have to admit but what little I have read. After I'd read it I thought Probably not a group. I joined it pretty big. Yes yes but the I mean. Officially there is freedom of religion in China but in reality the Chinese Communist Party just wants to control every unless it threatens. Let's say yes they do you know. They're they're reported to be more Christians in China than there are by far in Australia. They'd be more Christians in China. I think there's tens of millions of Christians in China but only a small percentage of the population. That's true but I've always wondered why Christianity would be popular to people with such a long and very deep cultural. Tradition of their own doesn't that I wanted to what Christian would appeal to anyone. Well I agree but it would be Christianity with a very Chinese flavor. I would imagine I did say network it in with existing Janis mix a little confucianism exactly. Probably Christianity is adapted of course as we know by whatever culture day the brain that they would be selling in China would be quite different to the brain. The selling America like she'll it would have been adapted and yeah so speaking of the Falungong practitioners seeking asylum. One of the things I learned during my research after Tiananmen Square Bob Hawke granted asylum to Chinese students Immediately after but apparently ninety percent of them were actually supporters of the Chinese Communist. Party's well that's where we get to now is what is the support of of the Communist Party D. NS Bre. Yeah well now within China we want to talk about fens very interesting article by Guy Martin jocks. He's an economist. And author of a book called China rules the world in Iraq an article for the PBC and he paid in this article about how at the time he was writing it. America was about to vote in lake. Donald Trump meanwhile the I taint congress of the Chinese Communist Party would simply be selecting a new president and prime minister and sighing contrast couldn't be greater so Americans in the tens of millions Tinian to vote in China. The price of selection will take place behind closed doors and involve only a relative handful of people. And you're probably thinking Aha America at its best John or its worst. Absence of democracy. China's Achilles heel is in governance. This will be charged as they unfold in. This guy says on argue quite the contrary so he says that democracy does not itself guarantee legitimacy. Thank of Italy. It's always fighting the enduring problem. Talion governance is that it state lacks legitimacy half the population really believe in it. So he says that the Chinese state enjoys greater legitimacy than any western state. How come among the people you made. Indeed in the coast of in the case of China the source of the legitimacy lies outside history or experience of Western Societies. So he talks about kids back to this. Confucianism issue are pointing at you watch. I just glanced at sorry get warmed up. What divides into two hundred six quickly. Doesn't it now? This is an important part. Because you're always talking about flooding Chinese and their lack of democracy anti-totalitarian state in this. This import getting to the crux. I it's podcast.
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"Power control the military. Even the military got a bit divided by the red guards. Cy He had this cult he created sort of a like Stalin dated a cult figure. And you had these Little Red Book had come out. And it was now under when he turned on the red gods that they didn't turn back on him. Well at that point he probably used the military to ship them into the country so Almost happy to get rid of the regard. They were actually cousins where the military was sent out to suppress the Red Guards. Reid USA as pass and winning advantage the red guards and said that's not just us all the powers to a military leader wasn't he is but he was crazy. He was better as a military later than he was as a peacetime later. In fact him there was one other campaign that it's probably worth mentioning and that was in the mid nineteen fifty so before the great leap forward. There was something. They called the one hundred flowers movement or something and it was his idea. That SAM's not everybody was in carriage. D- to say what they really thought about everything letter. Thousands of this is the party or it was basically. Okay we're just GONNA let everybody say exactly what they really think. Go for it. God's have an idea show that's right. Yeah and guess what happened to the people who criticize the palm now used it lanes and finding he rooted out to get rid of his enemies them to criticize the party. That's right yes so people. The smart ones wouldn't site much because they thought hanging a minute. Turn on your exactly exactly and it was. It wasn't the right. So dancing control ninety six Tiananmen Square massacre so uprising Iot One museum. Yeah poll on that whole well. It was it was a fairly spontaneous movement is my take on it among particularly young Chinese. Who probably quite rightly thought that the country had developed enough economically and you know materially and now it was time to liberal laws the political CENA bit So that would demanding. And of course. By this time young Chinese people had exposure to what was going on in the outset world in the west of course and got to see Western movies and could see how affluent people were living in Europe and North America and Australia and Japan. The old enemy and they were like well that's seems to be related to liberal political system. So yes we want that to. And of course it was crushed. It was totally crushed and it wasn't just in Beijing. By the way we think of it as the Tiananmen Square incident and Tiananmen Square is a large square which lies between the the large government buildings. Now what we would think of as the parliament building the Great Hall of the People on one side and on another side is the old full circle. Forbidden City which was the old Imperial Palace complex. So it's a very large square and that's where the students and protestors congregated for several weeks until As we know it was crushed. Don't think the government brought in a lot of outside is sorry what was it wasn't just aging. You'd actually similar things perhaps not quite on the same scale. I'm not sure but there were similar product protests in other Chinese cities. So it wasn't just Beijing Anyway that little night of wanting democracy was quickly snuffed out and Downing Island from my research was that The original gathering was because a full Matt Communist Party. Lleida had just awed by the name of Hugh. You'll buying He he was a foam communist body laid up but he worked to introduce democratic reform in China in that was the original purpose of because he was just a a recognition of his death and then turned into a let's push for democracy and there were one or two other members of the top ranks of the party who actually visited. The protests sought to express support support sympathy. Whatever and one in particular I now. He was basically putting under house arrest and stayed under house arrest for the rest of us. Live after that Okay we're GONNA move on so in the early two thousands. According to Modern History Padron they actually considered removing the would communist from the name of the Party. But I thought people might think well I. I'm joined the Communist padding. If this is the Communist Party will start another Communist Party and said I didn't WANNA competing party to be started up so I decided to keep the nine and we'd talking before last week that they communist or something else just because communism is in the nine x feel. I don't want it 'cause I couldn't because modern carriage and opposition movement which of course want and again in another plot that said the Patty today represents a type political protection record for those in private business. That's one way of looking at it and one other thing. I wanted to mention in the history was the Taiwan Straits crisis. Salary nineteen ninety-five. Taiwan was having some elections coming up and the Chinese were considering some sort of Missile testing and other things in the area as a sort of warning to the villagers of Taiwan to fight in the correct direction in this was seen as intimidation. And so I think it was. Clinton administration gathered if he worships together and sailed around Taiwan. Cy Fire any missiles in this area and indeed stop the Chinese doing that but didn't they signed some agreement in Noni Ninety to Taiwan and Shawna which Taiwan then reneged on. That's that was more reading admitted that so that's an important thing to remember is will when we're looking at this whole south. China Sea in the creation of these islands and these fortresses that are being built there because it sure is eggs when China was again humiliated by the American styling the wool vessels in the Straits of Taiwan. By said we've got to do something to make sure this doesn't happen again. And now they've built up military capacity on those islands and also just intensive ships which caught far away from Taiwan but in terms of the whole principle. They wanted to be able to say this is our backyard and we will dictate what happens here. And if the same thing to happen to die. I don't think the Americans would be brave enough to silence. Ships ran and we'll do it too well in the same way. They did it a few weeks ago. They sell to a couple of ships through the Taiwan Strait. Yes that in that situation I would think twice about it. It certainly would put pressure on it so when we look at why has China gone created. These men might all islands put these fortresses on them and built up its naval power. They must be considering an aggressive move against the region. You could say well look at the history. The British navy built at the moment is on several occasions Causing them to lose all sorts of stuff during the IPO was plus in recent times the American ninety Saudi and did whatever it wanted to. So if I was the Chinese after those incidents I would have done the same thing. If you were Chinese lead looking out to Chinese interests you do this thing saying when we considered in that light of history it does give it a different flight. It's absolutely understandable. Yes so that's the whole point of this particular. Podcast is to these things again from their point of view each allied thinking. Gee Now I understand some of that history. I get it yet. Said the non and ninety. Two consensus is a political term coined by the combing tongue politician. Suit she referring to the outcome of a meeting in ninety ninety two between the semi official representatives of the People's Republic of China of mainland China and the Republic of China of Taiwan and they come to a consensus in the combing tongue in Communist Party of China have now a disagreement on what that consensus actually was but the the government and so you the Communist Party of China only recognized the consensus that Taiwan is now to be officially recognized often on ninety two as part of my China bought from the rating. That did the combing tongue then got voted out and a new party was installed in Taiwan. A nice head. We don't recognize that agreement so potentially the time one is she'll on its own but kind of not surely the mean. Deng would not have said Taiwan's really kinda part of China quietly climbs. Such consensus exists with different meanings of China. Wrong you know Carolina does Shawn bullshitting each other. Where they're just to come to. This is not A. There's no half white point in compromised detained Taiwan and mine in China. Like they can't be well. Interestingly there's a lot of Chinese investment entire Wa and their Atar when these companies who had factories in the mainland mainland so there's commerce going on between Yep but there's no you one night half-life point between the two of them tens of there's no way the going to China any sort of formal control I've only and is going to be. There's no way that China's going to recognize that it doesn't have the right James that so they'll draw up a document that have weasel words and different interpretations to try and kick the can down the road from Taiwan's point of view eating not so that issues and not forced one more interesting fact in the last election that they had Just recently in Taiwan dawn the Guam in done which is the old party of Chiang kai-shek backing not. They lost the election but they actually were. Part of the election. Platform was closer ties with mainland China and the Democratic Party. Or I forget what they call them the party that want. Which is the Party of the current president? Were saying no no we want to be independent. I wonder if they'd been infiltrated. Well arming don more than likely. I wonder if they'd been for more than likely. The Communist Party has has agents all over tire saying as you dmed sense to me like that could happen to you. They're aware of it. Of course and they go to great lengths to try and weed out the infiltrators. Okay so let's history up till today. That would've taken Cameron Riley. And he's podcast about three months to get through cameras in the chat rooms. That's Italy's hair Tony's history in a nutshell sorry can rattling three that in that short period of time. Let's let's talk. Let's talk about culture now because the other thing that shapes people can do to say so. I googled Chinese culture and came up to a website. And I've I've got a link to it and a couple of different things to think about in terms of seclusion for two millennia. The Chinese empire was one of the most advanced and innovative civilizations in the world. The Chinese consider themselves the epicenter of the world for centuries so the dynasty showed no real interest in getting involved in global politics as Western and eastern wields advanced tried and began to globalize China. Continue to be a secluded and Conservative country into the Twentieth Century. So life was largely contained in the country's borders with a closed economy until nineteen seventy eight and closed borders until nineteen seventy four. So would we call him xenophobic? Well maybe or just a fan belief that China is the beginning and the end of what's important so when people talk about similarities with the United States. Well I can't find any here because what I'm saying is when you thinking about expansionist China that is everybody's argument at the moment the history of the country and it's thought prices until quite recently has not been expansionist. It's been very inward-looking. Compared to most other.