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580 - Organic, Gluten-Free, VeganWhich One's Healthiest?
"Before I. Start Today Show. We received support from hair food hair. Food uses the health wellness and nutrition principles that you use to take care of your body and applies them to your hair. Their mission is to feed your hair. The way you feed your body hair food is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and Mineral Oils, and it's full of real food ingredients to nourish your hair, so if you want to feed your hair, look you feed your body checkout hair food. It's available now at Walmart for only seven ninety seven. Hello and welcome to the nutrition diva podcast I'm your host? Monica. Ryan Eagle. I've got a series of questions from listeners lately, and although the specific topics were quite different, they all have a common root, and that is confusion about what various food designations and certifications mean for example, royds question was about contaminants in protein powders. He wrote I was recently researching which protein powder to buy and to my shock, one of the brands I was looking at was rated worst in terms of contaminants, specifically lead and cadmium. This plant based protein was certified USDA. Organic clearly, this label means nothing since they do not test for heavy metal contaminants. Why do we place so much importance on the USDA organic label if it does not protect us from contaminants? Dennis on the other hand was surprised to find that certified Vegan. Products are often full of miscellaneous chemicals and artificial ingredients. He wrote I've come to the conclusion that if I want to eat nutritious meals, avoiding processed foods whether Vegan or not may be more important than seeking out certified vegan products. And Elaine's question had to do with weight loss. She wrote I've already cut gluten and dairy out of my diet. I'm not sure what else. I can do to lose weight. Now in each case I think there's some confusion about what various labels such as organic Vegan or gluten free do and don't mean for your health nutrition. Certified Organic for example does not mean free of chemicals. It also doesn't mean more nutritious or healthier. It means that no synthetic chemical pesticides or fertilizers were added to the crops or the soils. nother reason that organic products can contain heavy metals, including cadmium, lead and arsenic is that these minerals are naturally occurring in the environment, even though they're not added through fertilizers or pesticides, they exist in the soil and the reason that Vegan protein powders are often higher in heavy metals, then way or egg-based protein powders is that plants tend to absorb these medals from the soil. They're grown in. Similarly, the designation Vegan does not mean healthier or more, nutritious or even more natural. It only means that no animal products are used as defense out a lot of the certified Vegan foods that you'll find on the shelves. These days are highly processed junk food. And furthermore eliminating gluten or dairy from your diet does not automatically lead to weight loss. Now Gluten containing foods like breads, cookies, crackers, pastas, and other flour based foods can contribute a lot of calories to your diet without a whole lot of nutrition and cutting down on flour based foods is actually not a bad strategy for losing weight, but not if you simply replace them all with gluten, free versions of the same things, because it's not the gluten per se, that's the problem gluten. Free products are often lower in fiber and higher in sugar and calories than they're gluten. Containing counterparts. In fact, people who adopt a gluten free diet for medical reasons often end up gaining weight. Because, we played a certain value on something being organic Vegan, local, sustainable or gluten free. These designations often enjoy a bit of a health halo. If we perceive them as being better for us in one aspect, we tend to think of them as being better in every dimension, but this is not at all the case certifications such as organic Vegan or gluten. Free mean only what they say, Vegan does not mean organic organic does not mean healthy local does not mean small. And because they encompass such a diversity of priorities, it's impossible to objectively rank them from best to worse or to use any one of these designations as a proxy for overall merit. On the other hand, doing exhaustive research and suppliers or pouring over the ingredient list for every food you buy is probably not realistic, so you may be able to use one or more of these designations as a shortcut to identify or weed out products that do or don't fit your criteria. But which ones should you pay attention to? Well to answer that you really need to be clear on your own priorities, which may include a lot of things besides nutrition. Before I go on. Today's episode is brought to you by hair food. Just as you feed your body with delicious nourishing ingredients, your hair also hungry for real nourishment hair food uses the health wellness and nutrition principles that you use to take care of your body and applies them to your hair, so you can feed your hair the way you feed your body hair food is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and mineral oils and full of real food ingredients, so you have the peace of mind of knowing. Knowing exactly what's in your products, hair food just launched a new color protect shampoo and conditioner collection, made with the essences of white nectarine and pair, the white nectarine pair color protect collection helps colored hair, stay, bright and vibrant long after your last dig- job, it has over one hundred five star reviews, I love that their mission is to use only the purest ingredients, so if you want to feed your hair like you feed your body checkout hair food available now at Walmart for only seven ninety seven. Before I go on. I want to tell you about today's sponsors. Zen Be then be creates delicious veggie first snacks like veggie bites and sticks. They're great to share with your kids. Recharge after a workout or just have for an on the go snack when he'd like some vegetable nutrition, but fresh vegetables aren't an option. Zembe uses more of the whole vegetable from peel to course stem to seed and Colonel Takab, and that means you get plenty of fiber in a unique and tasty snack. That's easy to enjoy, and they deliver right to. To Your door, then B.'s flavors include some of my favorite, super nutritious veggies, including Carrot Pumpkin and red peppers and I love how portable they are. These will definitely be coming with me on my next road trip right now. For a limited time, you can try three flavors of Zen. Be just visit, Zen, be dot, com slash diva, and you can create your own sampler for just four ninety nine, and you also get free shipping. That's fifty percent off the regular price plus free shipping at Z. E.. N. B. dot com slash diva. If reducing the use of and exposure to synthetic pesticides ranks highest on your list, then the organic certification may be the most meaningful for you. If, Animal, welfare is your overriding concern. Then you might prioritize Vegan orb certified humane foods if your primary goal is to support small local farmers, then shopping at your local farmers, market or signing up for a say will be more important than whether or not. Those farms are certified organic. Or. If reducing food waste is a big concern of yours, then you might prefer to patronize one of those services that rescues and reroute produce. That's destined for the landfill, even if that produces coming from large scale growers, or is not local to you, then if you have CEAC disease, that gluten-free designation will probably be more important to you than any of the other ones. But if your primary objective is to optimize your nutrient intake, or to manage your weight, then none of those designations will matter nearly as much as the nutrition facts, if you're looking for foods that are higher in protein or fiber or lower, sugar or calories than a glance at the nutrition facts label is going to tell you a lot than whether or not. The product is organic or Vegan or local or gluten free you might for example narrow. The candidates based on nutrition and then. Then consider other concerns you might I settle on Legume based Pasta, rather than rice based Pasta because it's higher in protein and fiber, and then check to see whether there's an organic brand of Legume Pasta available if that's a secondary priority, or you might choose conventional Kale over organic iceberg, because Kale is so much more nutrient dense, but at the same time you might be willing to spend a little bit more for organic apples, instead of conventional apples in order to give the bees break. Personally I know if I had a choice between non organic whole grain bread from my local bakery and organic white bread from a national brand with an expiration date for weeks from now, the organic certification would not tip the scales for me. I realized there are a lot of things to consider when making food choices, but all of these decisions will be a little bit easier if I get some clarity on which attribute matter most to you, and then what the various certifications and designations. And don't mean. Need more help sorting it all out. You can search the nutrition diva archives for answers to hundreds of common nutrition and food, questions and dilemmas, and if you can't find what you're looking for, send me an email. You can email me at nutrition, quick and dirty dot com, or you can call the nutrition diva listener line at four, four, three, nine, six, one, six, two, zero six, and leave me a voicemail, and I may feature your question in an upcoming episode. The nutrition diva show is written by me, Monica, Reindel, it's edited by Karen Hertzberg produced by even Sam's and I are wonderful team. Macmillan audio also includes Emily Miller. Morgan Ratner, Michelle, Argus and our director Kathy Doyle thanks so much for listening I'll see you next week.
585 - What's the Best Non-Dairy Milk Alternative?
"Before I, start today, show I want to tell you about today sponsor hair food hair foods. Mission is to feed your hair like you feed your body by using real food ingredients. Hair food is crafted the perfect recipe for every hair type and texture, and every hair food product is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and Mineral Oils. So if you're ready to give your hair than nourishment at craves try hair food, you can check it out at Walmart target and Amazon for under ten dollars. Hello there I'm Monica Ryan Eagle and you're listening to Tricia Diva podcast I'm glad you're here. For those who avoid dairy products for whatever reason there are a whole lot of different milk substitutes to choose from. You can buy non dairy alternative beverages made from Soya Rice, almond, oat, coconut peas, hemp flax is there any particular reason that you might choose one over the others and for that matter are any of these more nutritious than cow's milk? Will. It really does depend on what you're looking for. If you don't eat meat for example, then you might want to choose one that somewhat higher in protein. If you're watching your weight on the other hand, you might prefer one that's lower in calories. So I compared a dozen different types and brands of non dairy milk to see how they stacked up nutritionally. Now, in each case I chose the plane unsweetened version or as close to that, I could get include both original and light or reduced fat varieties when possible. And so here's a rundown of the most popular milk alternatives and what I see is the nutritional pros and cons of each. All of the non dairy milk, of course, are going to be Vegan and lactose free. But then there are some real differences. Soy and PEA milk are the highest in protein. They provide somewhere between eight and eleven grams of protein per cup, which is comparable to cow's milk. Legumes such as soybeans and yellow peas are also relatively complete source of protein although not quite as complete as dairy. Soy Protein in particular has some beneficial effects on cholesterol levels and might help keep your bones strong. But as I talked about way hacking episode number twenty, one on the pros and cons of soy. There are a few reasons that you don't want to Overdo it with soy and I suggest keeping it to no more than three servings a day. So if you eat a lot of other soya based foods, then you might want to choose a different kind of milk for that reason. Hen Flax and Walnut milks are all relative newcomers to the alternative scene and all of these are an excellent source of Omega three fats. This is a nutrient that's often lacking in the western Diet. If your diet does not include a lot of fish, for example, this could be a way to fill that gap a single serving of one of these can provide an entire day's recommended intake of Omega three fat. That's about four times as much as you'd get from soy milk and six times as much as you'd get from cow's milk none of these options however are very high in protein. Now if you're counting calories, almond milk tends to be quite a bit lower in calories and sugar than most of the other non dairy milks. It's also fairly low in protein and don't expect the same benefits that you'd get from eating almonds virtually all of the fiber and the heart healthy mono unsaturated fats that make almond. So healthy have been removed although almond milk has for a long time in one of the most popular non dairy. Several other nut milks have entered the market more recently including those made from hazelnuts cashews, and as I mentioned earlier, Walnuts. If you're looking for one to make it home, I have found that cashew milk is the easiest and best tasting. Do It yourself non dairy milk option and in the show notes for today I have linked to the recipe that I created to make cashew milk. Now, I should point out that not milks nut milks including those made from almonds, walnuts and cashews use more water to create than other non dairy options, and this is because nuts are very water intensive crops nonetheless, Almond and other nut milks use less water to produce then cow's milk. But if water usage is important to you, Sawyer oat milk are the least water-intensive to produce. Now. Rice milk is the one that you're least likely to be allergic to. However, it is also pretty much the lowest in protein and it tends to be higher in sugar and calories. Although races not as water-intensive to grow as nuts, it's not far behind in terms of water use. OAT Milk is another newer entry into the non dairy field people tend to really like it's creamy texture especially in coffee it's also a more sustainable option than not or rice based milks another plus is that it does contain a small amount of fiber. Now, we're only talking one or two grams per serving but oat fiber has some unique benefits in terms of lowering blood cholesterol and blood sugar levels with just two to four grams of protein per serving oat milk is lower in protein than either cow's milk. Or Soy milk, but higher than most rice and almond milk varieties, and finally milk may also be a great option for those with nut allergies for whom not milks are obviously off the menu and this brings us to coconut milk. Now, with all the buzz around coconut oil and coconut water lately, it was probably inevitable that a coconut based milk alternative would appear on the already overcrowded shelves in that non dairy I'll. But as with all the other coconut based products, the health benefits of coconut milk are modest. Plane unsweetened coconut milk is very low in calories and carbohydrates. It's only got about half as many calories as skim milk. However, coconut milk contains no protein and it's often described as being watery kinda tasteless. Now. Here's just a quick. Although. Both are referred to as coconut milk. The coconut based beverage that you'll find next the almond milk is not to be confused with the coconut milk that you'll find the canned food or international foods I'll canned coconut milk is made from blending coconut meat and water into a rich creamy liquid that's quite high in fat and calories. This is the ingredient that you'll see called for in curry recipes, desserts, and other kinds. Asian cuisine. Before I go on today's episode is supported by hair food hair food is a brand with a simple mission to help you feed your hair like you feed your body by using real food ingredients. Hair food is crafted the perfect recipe for every hair type and texture. One of their most popular collections is the nourishing coconut and Chai Spice Shampoo and conditioner it gently cleanses and most rises for super soft. Silky? Strands. It also smells amazing like a vacation for your hair and since your hair deserves the same clean and healthy ingredients you put in your body every hair food product is free of sulfates, parabens, delays, mineral oils I really appreciate the effort they've made to date those unwanted ingredients. So if you're ready to give your hair, the nourishment at craves try hair food, check it out at Walmart target and Amazon for under ten dollars. We should also talk a little bit about calcium and vitamin D cow's milk is a major source of calcium and vitamin D in the Western. Diet and non dairy are not naturally high in these nutrients. Now, many of these brands are fortified to make them comparable to cow's milk as a source of calcium and vitamin D but not all of them are. So check the label to see exactly what you're getting. especially if you're counting on these foods to help you meet those requirements, you can see calcium and vitamin D listed in the nutrition facts label, and you can also see what nutrients have been added by reading the ingredient list. Calcium's pretty easy to recognize. D though you might not recognize because it might be listed as cal several or Kollek Haussa for all you can remember that these refer to vitamin D because they each contain calcite as part of the name, and that's because Vitamin D works with calcium to make strong bones. But nutrients aren't the only things that added to non dairy milks many if not most also contain a certain amount of added sugar salt and other things to improve the flavor sometimes they improve the flavor so much that they actually turn it into a dessert. But even in the plane unflavored milk that I compared added sugars sometimes ranged as high as twenty grams per serving. That's more than a tablespoon of sugar in each cup sodium ranged anywhere from twenty five to one hundred, eighty milligrams per serving. So I suggest that you look for brands that keep the sugar to twelve grams or less and the sodium to no more than one hundred milligrams per serving, and that's similar to the amount of natural sugar and sodium present in cow's milk. No from parents who want to know which non dairy milk they should give to their kids no non dairy milk is appropriate for use as a baby formula. Once kids are eating table foods however. Any of the non dairy options would be fine. Now, obviously, you'll want to avoid ingredients that your child is allergic to set soy nuts but a soy or p based beverage will provide the most protein for those growing bodies and a brand that's it by calcium and vitamin D will help build strong bones. With childhood obesity rates on the rise, you might think that one of the lower calorie options would be the best choice but kids who drink full-fat cow's milk actually tend to be leaner than kids who drink skim milk. The same is true of adults by the way and kids especially, toddlers need fat for healthy brain? Development. It is important to keep our kids at a healthy weight, but teaching them healthy eating and lifestyle habits is going to go a lot further than feeding them reduced calorie foods. Help them, build their meals and snacks around whole and minimally processed foods limit those added sugars, highly processed foods and snacking and encourage more physical activity. The other big question is whether one tastes better than the other and that's really a matter of personal preference. I didn't informal poll on my facebook page asking which non dairy milk people preferred, and each of them had its advocates almond milk seemed to be a favourite several people mentioned that they like soy or hemp for their creaming us, and that makes sense because both of those are a little bit higher in Fat Than Almond Milk and some people keep more than one type on hand for different uses. For example, one listener says she likes rice milk to drink but soy milk on her serio. If you've got room in the fridge having a couple of different kinds of non dairy milk might be a way to get the best of all worlds. Some soy milk on your cereal gives you breakfast a little extra chritine hemp milk in your smoothie can add some mega three fats to your diet or a glass of chilled almond milk make a refreshing calorie snack and there's no reason that people who drink cow's milk couldn't do the same thing in my own refrigerator. For example, you'll find cow's milk soy milk and homemade cashew milk. Most of the cow's milk gets cultured into fear or hurt I like soy milk in my iced coffee and Martinez and cashew milk is my favorite for cooking. When it comes to choosing a non dairy alternative you'll want to consider your own nutritional needs and priorities as well as the foods that make up the rest of your diet and your own taste preferences. Fortunately with so many available options there's bound to be one or more that fit the bill. There's a transcript of today's show at our website at quick and dirty tips dot com, where you can also search the entire nutrition diva archives and also sign up for email updates. Our show is produced Nathan sends. It's edited by Karen Herzberg and our team at the villain audio also includes Morgan Emily knowing shall Margulis and our director Khaki Doyle. But of course, the most important person on our team is view thanks so much for listening and remember to eat something good for me.
583 - Can Your Diet Help Reduce Stress?
"Before I start today, show I wanNa tell you about today sponsor hair food hair foods. Mission is to feed your hair like you feed your body by using real food ingredients. Hair food has crafted the perfect recipe for every hair type and texture and every hair food product is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and Mineral Oils. So if you're ready to give your hair the nourishment, it craves try hair food, check it out at Walmart target and Amazon for under ten dollars. Hello and welcome to the nutrition diva podcast on your host Monica Ryan Eagle and this week's episode was prompted by Kristin who wrote can you talk about Cortisol and how it affects our bodies with all this cova craziness it feels like my stress levels are at an all time high. What nutritional things can we do to help our stress levels and what can we do about the belly fat that being more stressed makes us onto. Well Kristen is not the only one feeling more stressed. In recent months the American Psychological Association conducts an annual poll to gauge overall stress levels in the population and the specific things that people are stressed about change from year to year. But the overall level of stress remains fairly constant even in the best of times, the majority of Americans report living with moderate to high levels of stress and they feel that their stress levels aren't healthy. Well, not surprisingly a new poll conducted in April and May of twenty twenty found that reported stress levels have jumped up considerably in response to the global. Pandemic. As. Many of us know all too well reaching for sweets or other comfort foods is a typical coping mechanism when we're stressed and with many people cooped up at home stress and boredom eating is definitely on the rise leading to weight gain, and if that weren't bad enough research does suggest that when we're stressed those comfort calories may lead to weight gain more quickly because of those high cortisol levels that Kristen mentioned. A couple of months ago I actually gave an online workshop with some strategies to help reduce stress eating, and if you missed that the replay is still available, you can access that at way less dot life slash healthy at home way last life slash healthy at home for some strategies to reduce stress eating. But wouldn't it be great if there were foods or nutrients that could defuse anxiety and ward off the negative effects of daily stress? No wonder I see. So many magazine and Web articles about Stress Busting Foods. Unfortunately, a lot of these are just puff pieces with little to no scientific basis sometimes, however, journalists will interview actual scientists about the research. The problem is that researchers often use that word stress to means something very different than what the general population of stress and that often leads to confusion. When we say we're stressed. We usually mean that we feel overwhelmed or anxious too many demands, deadlines and worries and not enough time money and energy to get it all done. Researchers on the other hand often measure physiological stress responses which don't necessarily correspond to our psychological experience. So when they report that food or a nutrient has an effect on stress that doesn't necessarily mean that you will feel better or. When you eat it let me just give you one example. In a story on the connection between Diet and stress researcher Robert. Ludwig told the morning edition about an experiment that he did on obese teenage boys in which the boys who eight highly processed cereal for breakfast had higher levels of Adrenaline, which is a stress hormone. Then those who ate a high protein breakfast instead. And the boys who ate more protein were also less hungry and they ate fewer calories at lunch. So chalk one up for a high protein breakfast. Unfortunately nobody asked the boys about their mood or how stressed they fell. So we don't know whether those different breakfast meals had any effect on whether they felt any more or less stressed. Nonetheless, if you had heard that piece on the radio, you probably would have concluded as did the reporter that eating lots of refined carbs and sugar will make you feel more stressed and anxious. But hang on just a minute because in her book, the Serotonin powered Diet Dr Judas Werthmann claims that a big dose of refined carbohydrates is exactly what you should eat to feel more relaxed and happy, and that's because refined carbohydrates promote the production of Serotonin, a feel good neurotransmitter. So which is it are we supposed to eat carbs or are we supposed to avoid them to beat stress? Will the reason that these two scientists seem to be contradicting one? Another is that they're measuring completely different things. Ludwig is looking at the effect of Diet on adrenal hormones and Workman is describing the effect of Diet on neurotransmitters of the to neuro transmitters probably have a closer relationship to our mood. Nonetheless I. Think the disadvantages of Workmen's approach outweigh. The benefits eating refined carbohydrates may temporarily boost your serotonin levels after all. That's probably why we crave them when we feel down. But they also send your blood sugar, insulin energy and appetite on a roller coaster ride and riding that rollercoaster on a regular basis is a good way to increase your risk of type two diabetes and heart disease. Fortunately as the savvy psychologist pointed out in our conversation about the food mood connection eating refined carbs is not the only way to boost those mood enhancing neurotransmitters a few minutes of aerobic exercise exposure to sunshine doing a nice favor for someone or even simply smiling these are all proven ways to reduce your mental and emotional stress levels without the negative affects of a carbohydrate binge. Before, I go on. Today's episode is supported by hair food. Hair food is a brand with a simple mission to help you feed your hair like you feed your body by using real food ingredients. Hair food is crafted the perfect recipe for every hair type and texture. One of their most popular collections is the nourishing coconut and Chai Spice Shampoo, and conditioner it gently cleanses and moisturizes force super soft silky strands it also. Smells amazing like a beach vacation for your hair, and since your hair deserves the same clean and healthy ingredients you put in your body every hair food product is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and Mineral Oils. I really appreciate the effort they've made to eliminate those unwanted ingredients. So if you're ready to give your hair the nourishment, it craves try hair food, check it out at Walmart target and Amazon for under ten dollars. Before I go on I want to tell you about today's sponsor zen be then be creates delicious veggie first snacks like veggie bites and veggie sticks. They're great to share with your kids recharged after a workout or just have for an on the go snack when he'd like some vegetable nutrition but fresh vegetables aren't an option. Zambia uses more of the whole vegetables from peel to core stem to seed and colonel to Cobb, and that means you get plenty of fiber in a unique and tasty snack that's easy to enjoy and they delivered. Right to your door Zen B.'s flavors include some of my favorite super nutritious veggies including carrot pumpkin and red peppers, and I love how portable they are. These will definitely be coming with me on my next road trip right now for a limited time, you can try three flavors of zen be just visit zen be dot com slash diva, and you can create your own sampler for just four, nine, ninety nine and you also get free shipping that's fifty percent off the regular price plus free shipping at Z. NB DOT com slash diva. There is one stress reducing dietary strategy that might be worth a try the bacteria that thrive in our guts appear to affect. Both are adrenal stress hormones and are neurotransmitters translation prebiotic and probiotic foods may help reduce anxiety and depression and improve our state of mind. Now the more different kinds of beneficial bacteria in your gut the better. So rather than put all of your probiotic eggs in the yogurt basket as it were try to branch out a little bit with other types of fermented and cultured foods such as fermented soy products, which include Tempe Natto and neo and lactose fermented vegetables, which is the fancy new name for old fashioned pickles. But wait it gets even better cheese beer and red wine are also sources of probiotic bacteria. Of course, you want to enjoy them responsibly. Now on the prebiotics sight of things which may be even more important. You can further encourage diversity by providing your gut bacteria with lots of different types of fiber. So instead of relying on a single fiber supplement to meet your fiber quota, try to get your fiber from a variety of different grains, leg hume's nuts, fruits, and vegetables as is so often the case eating variety of whole foods offers more benefits than diet made up of just a short list of superfoods. Finally is there anything we can do to fend off that stress related belly fat it is true that chronically high cortisol levels may trigger the body to store fat preferentially around the middle talk about adding insult to injury. But. Despite what you'll see on line, there aren't any foods that specifically burn belly fat expecting food, which is a source of energy to burn fat, which is a form of stored energy is a little like expecting an ice cube to warm up your coffee. The best way to prevent stress related belly fat is to reduce your stress levels I know that's easier. Said than done these days. A certain amount of stress during a global pandemic and economic crisis is inevitable. But some of it is optional and here are a few of the ways that I've been trying to keep my stress levels as low as possible number one limit consumption of news to the absolute minimum needed to stay informed. Number to. Choose Books Movies Music and friends that you find uplifting and avoid those that you find draining or pressing. Number three, get off line and get outside every day. If you can number four, move your body ideally in ways that you enjoy and number five, get enough sleep. Your Body perceives a lack of sleep as stress and those who skimp on sleep tend to have higher cortisol levels, which may partially explain why under sleeping is consistently linked with weight gain. If you're just too stressed to sleep right now a guided meditation or a Yoga Negro practice can be a great way to calm your mind Indra Body and help you relax into restorative sleep check out one of the many meditation or Mindfulness APPs such as head space calm or my personal favorite insight timer. Even. When the current crisis has abated, life will continue to be stressful. So learning how to keep stress from damaging your health or your diet will not be wasted effort. My colleague Dr Jade Woo has lots more great advice on coping with life's challenges in her weekly savvy psychologist podcast. I definitely recommend if it's not already that you add that to your pandemic playlist and while you're editing your podcast playlist maybe like to check out my new podcast with Rock Armstrong host of the get fit guy podcast together brock and I have a new podcast called Change Academy where we talk about the art and science of Behavior Change you'll find it wherever you listen. And you'll find a transcript of today's show along with links to lots of research at quicken dirty tips, dot com, where you can also search the entire nutrition diva archive, and if you can't find an answer to your nutrition question in my archives, feel free to send it my way and you might get your answer in an upcoming episode. The nutrition diva show is researched and written by me Monica Vinyl edited by Karen Hertzberg produced by Newton Sam's and our team at Macmillan audio also includes Morgan rattener. Emily Miller Michelle Margulis and our director Kathy Doyle. Thank you so much for listening. I'll next week.
577 - How Endurance Sports Affect Appetite
"Before I start today's episode. We received support from home chef. Many of us are using this time at home to work on our cooking skills and to take care of our families with delicious. Meals so this is a great time to let home chef. Show you just how quick and easy home cooking can be. This is the number one customer rated meal Kit Company. They'll recommend meals based on what you're looking for. They've got quick meals. CARB conscious options, even easy cleanup recipes for a limited time only go to home chef dot com slash diva and get thirty dollars off. That's home chef dot com slash diva for thirty dollars off. Hello and welcome to the nutrition diva podcast I'm your host Monica Ryan Eagle and a listener recently wrote in with what I think is a very familiar dilemma. She and her husband were training for an endurance event, but as she increased the duration of her workouts, she noticed that her appetite was also increasing sharply. Even though I was eating more I was still hungry all the time she wrote, and so she experimented with the timing, and the composition of her meals, but nothing seemed to help, and she started to get worried that despite all the extra exercise she was doing. She might end up gaining weight just because she was eating so much more. Will join me on today's podcast to talk about how exercise and endurance exercise in particular affects our appetite. Is Brock strong rock? As you probably know is host of the get fit guy podcast that. PODCAST along with the nutrition diva. That's part of the quick and dirty tips. Network and Brock is also the CO host with me of a brand new podcast called. Change Academy, but more to the point rock is himself and endurance athlete. Which I most certainly not, and he's coached hundreds of others through endurance sports and training so I think he's the perfect person to help me answer this question. Welcome to the PODCAST. Thanks Monica it's great to be here all right I, maybe we should just start by defining some terms. So, what do we mean when we say endurance? Is there a definition for that. Well! There is but the definition that actually goes along with endurance doesn't really fit what people's. Perception of it is I think the question asker here when when she says they training for an endurance sport. It's generally something long like a marathoner a half marathon. Iron Man or Ultra marathon or something like that for the matter of this conversation, let's just focus on those sort of longer slower efforts, not necessarily the shorter quicker ones, so is that kind of exercising those long duration low to moderate intensity workouts. Are they the best way to get fit? Well you know. I always defined fit as being able to move through the world, and do the things that you want to be able to do with a certain amount of ease, and and a certain amount of confidence so endurances, definitely part of that, but it's not the whole picture, so it's not necessarily the best way to get fit, but it is a component of what I would consider to be fit along with things like flexibility strength, having the the speed is well those shorter shorter higher intensity efforts that all works in concert to really equal fitness in general, so it's it's definitely an aspect of it, but it's not the best way the answer to becoming fit. So? Does that type of training these long duration efforts. How does that affect hunger levels and interested to know whether it has different effects in different time frames like while you're exercising may be immediately afterwards or maybe much later in the day. Have you observed? An effect there, definitely, definitely and. I guess, let's start with during the exercise so generally. What happens when we start to exercise? Is Our blood circulatory system. Does things like moves. Our blood in focuses its energy on the muscles are the parts of our body that are being used currently, so that means your digestive system actually. Isn't that involved when you're going for a long run? Let's say are a long bike ride. So the blood flow actually moves preferentially to your to the muscles that are being used and sort of not to your stomach, for example so you definitely you don't necessarily feel hungry, and you actually have an impaired ability to digest things when you're in the middle of a long effort like that. Now after that's finished, and that blood serve returns to its more regular scheduled program, it's a then then you could feel an uptick in your hunger. At least a return to your hunger, because your blood flows is then returning to your digestive system, and that's generally when people start to feel hungry, and that can happen within minutes of finishing a an exercise like that or a race, or whatever it happens to be or hours later, and that is very individual. I know athletes who are a ravenous the across the finish line I know other athletes that are actually kind of nauseous for a couple of hours after after a race, and you can't even show them food. It's a it's a very individual thing. Well, is that uptick of hunger just merely a physiological response to the uptick in energy use so your body registers the fact that you've burned a of calories on this exercise, and so it's just GonNa get hungry to replace them, or is it more complicated than that? It's much more complicated than that and I can't actually. I can't claim to understand it myself because I'm not entirely sure that we do understand it completely in terms of sports science. There's hormones that are involved. There's the blood flow as I mentioned. That are involved. There's just Janetta factors that are involved. There's so many different factors that come into play. And some of it, I think is habitual is as well. And this is something that wanted to focus on during. This conversation is that we tend to spend so much time thinking about the calories that we are burning. When wrote for that run that I think a lot of the time. We are so focused on replacing those calories are or refueling immediately after the the exercise, the race, or whatever it happens to be that we do prioritize getting those calories in perhaps more than we need to. And that gets us just in the habit of feeling that extra hunger when we finish, because we think we should be doing it rather than actually just experiencing the hunger as we would in a normal day. Yeah I think it's possible. Even subconsciously that if we have exercised, we think we have earned more food or we deserve more food. And maybe that translates into feelings of being hungry or having the urge to eat. We have been sold a bit of a a message by the sports nutrition industry that we need to refuel, and you have this window of time that you need to get the protein in. In the carbohydrates and stuff into your body, and a lot of that information is trickle down from the professional athletes who are in a whole different realm. Then we are, and and yeah, you're right I. Think we do take that information and it gets even if we're not thinking in the forefront of our brains, it is jumping around in the backfire grain, and perhaps sparking some hunger. That isn't necessarily. there. Is it possible that the increase of hunger is exaggerated in other words, we are stimulated to eat even more than we need in order to replace what we've just burned I. think that's definitely a phenomenon that happens when people first start to do these longer endurance sports and I've seen that a lot with people who are just and like our question asker. When you're first increasing your distance I, think that kind of reaction does happen at greater to a greater extent than it does to somebody who's been doing it for a longer time. So I I often tell my the clients that I coach then when they're. Expressing this same concern of like I'm just so hungry and I'm eating way too much. Now I'm afraid is going to sabotage my efforts to either maintain a healthy weight or to achieve a healthy weight. I generally say okay. We'll don't panic. Just let your body sort of adjust to this new normal, because we're taking you out of that Homeo- stasis right now increasing the volume and duration, and sometimes the intensity of the workout since your body's thrown for a bit of a loop, and that's where those hormones really come into play. There's two hormones in particular that I know you've talked about in the past Monica on on nutrition diva podcast episodes And Leptin in particular, the to hormones that either signal, hunger or shutdown hunger, and they're thrown for a bit of a loop when you first start these these longer or even the more intense ones. So it sounds like that's a real phenomenon, but it may be very temporary that your body adjusts. Yeah, that's been my experience watching. Hundreds of athletes at this point in my coaching career. Go through a similar sort of thing that it's. It's much more pronounced when you first start these kinds of efforts and dies off with time. Is there a difference between different styles of exercise are some kind of exercise more likely to stimulate appetite or to a greater degree or others less likely to do that. I think I've seen somewhere that maybe high intensity interval training is less likely to stimulate the appetite. Is that true? Well like all things. When you look into enough studies, you can find studies to support both sides of the coin actually in preparation for today's conversation I wanted to to have some studies to toback up what I was claiming and I ran into that same problem where you find a study that says that Long Endurance Sports actually suppress appetite, and then ones that say it sparks it more than the shorter higher intensity stuff so. And and then there are the studies that actually. I find a lot more meaningful where they're talking about the. Fact that it really it depends on things like your gender, your your level of obesity, or or just your body position your current fitness. The temperature that you're exercising in the altitude that you're exercising at the amount of hydration that you've had before during in after the the workout hydration can play a huge role in in hunger signals especially after exercise, so they're just so many factors to take into consideration that I know. It's really tempting to just be like. Please tell me what kind of workout I can do. That's either going to suppress hunger or or make a writer, but the truth is that it's a lot more nuanced than that. No magic exercise for us, I'm surprised. If, you're if you've been listening to Monica or my podcast for awhile now. You probably are not surprised that we don't have a magic pill for you here. Before I go on. Today's episode is brought to you by hair food. Just as you feed your body with delicious nourishing ingredients, your hair's also hungry for real nourishment hair. 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So apart from just this issue of how hungry we feel and satisfying that hunger, can you talk just a little bit about how we need to eat in order to optimize our performance on in other words are. The performance in this kind of long duration sports is that kind of a before during after kind of scenario. Is it really hard or is it not that complicated? You know it's not really that complicated. We've been again. The sports nutrition industry has really given us this trickle down information from the professional athletes who need to be very on top of all. They're fueling and refueling, and you know what for the most part for. Mere mortals like us. WHO Even if you're training for a marathon, let's say. The majority of the time, we just need to eat our next scheduled meal and maybe add a little bit of extra food. If you've really put on like generally when you're training for a marathon, you have one day a week. That's a very long like our long slow distance runner the the endurance part of the training. On that day you may want to add some extra food, but for the most part it's. It really comes down to not not worrying about it too too much and. One thing that I can. Actually focusing on though is for these long slow runs for these endurance efforts that we're talking about here, popping those gels, those really sugary treats and running with the the jelly beans, and the Gumy's in the gels and everything and focusing on having those all the time can actually have can contribute to this problem that we're talking about can really spark the appetite and send you on that roller coaster ride of high blood, sugar, local trigger, high blood, sugar, low sugar, which doesn't necessarily stop when you've finished that run, it'll continue throughout the day. So we have to remember that when we're doing. These slower efforts were not actually needing as much carbohydrate to begin with, and then piling that extra carbohydrates in to our into our system on top of that does set us up for some some hunger later on in the day, and and that roller coaster ride of the high and low blood sugar, so I would suggest is for those. Those kinds of long efforts to not concentrate on getting a whole bunch of carbohydrate in, but just eat as you normally would, and maybe if you know, you're going to get hungry during the rotten, if it's long enough duration that you're going to potentially run out of fuel, which is a whole different aspect, we call it bonking and that's not just feeling hungry. That is a total shutdown. If, you are thinking that you're going to be hungry. During the runner you know from previous experience taking some real food with you can actually be just fine and a and a lot more satisfying like things like a handful of nuts or a banana or I know people who've cooked small baby potatoes and put them in a little Sim locking. Carry them along with them. There's a number of real food choices that you can take on these kinds of runs, and by eating that normal type food. We don't set ourselves up for that extra hunger later on in the day you do from the ultra refined sugary goop kind of stuff that that a lot of people take on their runs. That's interesting distinction that you draw between feeling a little hungry during your run and technically bonking I think a lot of us think that if we're starting to feel hungry, we are on the verge of. Athletic failure and it sounds like at like does feeling a little bit hungry impair performances at possible just to kind of decide. I'll just run through that and I'll eat when I get to the end of my session, or is that dangerous? It's not dangerous at all. And in fact I know a lot of athletes that like high level Olympic athletes that feel wrong if they if they aren't a little bit hungry at the start line. And the. There's an interesting thing glycogen stores we store glycogen or or glucose carbohydrate in our muscles and our liver. At any given time we've got at least ninety minutes of and depending on the the intensity of course, but ninety minutes is kind of a good ballpark of glycogen, just ready to go hidden away in in our muscles and our liver, and that can go a long way when you're feeling hungry. It doesn't mean that you've run out of blood sugar and it certainly doesn't mean that you've run out of clay. Cajun and it certainly doesn't mean that you've run out of fat stores as well which do serve as a fuel source for for any sort of movement. Never mind the long slow efforts. Well I'm so glad that you made that point because I think that this is a confusion that people who are not endurance athletes have that hunger is an emergency that the feeling of hunger signals. Dangerously low blood, sugar, or any number of other catastrophic events, and it's it's in general, not quite as big an emergency as many of us have come to think of it. When you've experienced a bunk. Needs the difference you will really know the difference, but having said that. If you want to perform at your absolute best, let's say it's race day. Prioritizing, getting some food is a is a good idea. If you WANNA, make sure that you're performing at your absolute best. I'm just saying that it's not a an emergency in. It's not going to actually ruin your workout if you're a little bit hungry, sure. So, I guess just to wrap this up. This was such a wide ranging discussion. If. You just love this kind of sport. This is just kind of what makes you tick and this is the way you'd like to spend your time, but you find that it's over stimulating your appetite, and you're struggling a little bit to manage your weight through this. What are just a couple of takeaways? A couple of tips that we can offer for people who like to do this kind of sport to help them avoid unwanted weight gain I. Think you've given them all to us. Let's maybe just bring them back at the end and takeaways. Sure Yeah. I think the first one would be to not worry about it right off the bat that it will pass with time. I remember experiencing this myself like years ago when I restarted doing endurance sports, and and it faded again as it had in previous time, so don't panic. Just do your best to to manage it until until your body serve adjust to the new normal. And the second thing would be to avoid those highly processed sugary kind of goofy things that that we've been told. We need to have every twenty minutes, or whatever are marketed to athletes in particular, they are and I'm not saying that they don't have a place, but in general, the like I said the mere mortals in us that are just going out and having our long runs we we don't need those kinds of things on a regular basis. You mean I don't need to. Gel Packs to take my dog out for a walk. Or gatorade for that matter wants to drink or. Some water, and maybe a handful of almonds. Would we be the way that I'd suggest you go Gotcha and I guess the third thing would be to not get hung up on whatever your activity tracker is telling you in terms of the calories you burnt because a lot of those lot of that information like I said even if it's not in the forefront of your brain, it is sort of jumping around in the back of your brain, saying you should probably replace those calories, and you know if you if you. Go To my if you go to get fit guy feed, and you look for some of the information I've done about. How smart is your smartwatch? You'll see that the calorie estimations in particular from these devices can be up to ninety percent inaccurate. That's just putting on a blindfold and throwing darts. At that point. That's not even that's not even an estimate. That's just craziness so putting too much stock in, either how much how many calories you're activity trackers, telling you burned, or how many calories you're my fitness, pal or your meal tracker is telling you you've taken in is just going to serve to make you more worried about this and probably cause you to to eat more than you need to so instead focus on your actual hunger. Focus on how you're actually feeling a little bit of grumble in your stomach, doesn't it's not emergency? It doesn't mean you need to get some carbohydrates and protein in new stat. Just wait until the next meal and eat as you normally would and and play with it from there, and I guess as a final sort of caveat, please don't use exercise to burn calories and and promote weight loss. It is a very ineffective dual for that. It's a great way to support your weight loss efforts, but it's not a great way to like like the Great Tim nokes a Dr. Tim noakes professor Tim says if you have to exercise to maintain your body weight, your diet is wrong here here. And that's a perfect segue for me. as many of you, listening may be aware in addition to his to podcast to get fit guy. And Change Academy rock is also the CO founder with me of the way less program. This is a coaching program for sustainable weight loss without dieting, and some of the things that we've been talking about today are. Are things that come up all the time in our program, but I wanted to mention that on June, Twenty Eighth Rock, and I are going to be hosting a free workshop together on the five shifts that lead to sustainable weight loss, and if you'd like to join that and we can continue this conversation about exercise as well you can sign up at. Dot Life. Slash sustainable. That's way less dot slash sustainable. Thanks so much for joining me. Yeah thank you for having me. I hope I didn't confuse anybody too much. We know where to find you if you did crate. All right everyone nutrition diva show is produced by Nathan Sam's edited by Karen. Herzberg and our team at Macmillan audio also includes Emily Miller Michelle Margulis Morgan rattener and our director Kathy Oil. Thanks so much for listening. Have a great week.
574 - How to Eat 45,000 Extra Calories Without Gaining Weight
"Before I, start today show. We received support from hair food hair. Food uses the health wellness and nutrition principles that you use to take care of your body and applies them to your hair. Their mission is to feed your hair. The way you feed your body hair food is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and Mineral Oils, and it's full of real food ingredients to nourish your hair, so if you want to feed your hair, look you feed your body checkout hair food. It's available now at Walmart for only seven ninety seven. Hello and welcome to the nutrition diva podcast. I'm your host Monica. Ryan Eagle and today's show was suggested by Fabio. Who writes? I came across a study on bodybuilders, which suggests that a caloric surfeit doesn't contribute to weight gain as you would expect when the extra calories come solely from protein. Can you comment on it? The study Fabio asked me about was published in two thousand and fourteen in the Journal of the International. Society of Sports Nutrition and it is definitely worth a closer look. The subjects in this study were all in their early twenties, and they were all engaged in heavy resistance, training or weightlifting. They were quite lean and very muscular, going into the study in fact, if you looked only at their body, mass index their BMI numbers. It looked as if the subjects were on the verge of. City, but when you look at their body composition, it's clear that the higher body weights related to their heights word due to their very high muscle mass. One group in the study then added a lot of extra protein to their diet in the form of way, protein powder, and when I say a lot I mean a lot. These athletes had previously been consuming about one gram of protein per pound her day, or about twenty to twenty five percent of their calories. Now this is about twice the recommended minimum intake, but it's still comfortably within the acceptable range for protein that's laid out by the National Academy of Medicine, which is formerly known as the Institute of Medicine. For the study, the researchers essentially doubled the appleans protein intake to an average of three hundred grams per day now that is quite a bit higher than the National Academy of Medicine Maximum recommended intake, and it's also as the researchers point out, and I'm quoting here. The highest recorded intake of dietary protein in the scientific literature that we are aware of and quote. The researchers didn't evaluate whether this extremely high protein intake had any negative impacts on liver or kidney function, but many of the subjects did complain of intestinal distress during the study. However, nobody is recommending that eating this much protein would be a good idea on a long-term basis. The point of this short term study was simply to find out how eating protein in excess of caloric requirements would affect body composition in highly trained people, and when they say highly trained, they mean resistance training not trained in the scientific method or whatever. So? The subject's didn't eat less of other foods. They just added the way protein and of what they were already eating, or at least that's what they were supposed to do. In reality, some of the subjects ended up eating fewer carbohydrates. Others actually ate a bit more carbohydrate, but on average they managed to increase the caloric intake by eight hundred calories per day mostly from protein, and they also continue. Continue to do their usual strenuous workouts. So what were the results of this grand experiment? Well, according to the researchers and I'm going to quote again here. The current investigation found no changes in body, weight, fat, mass, or fat, free mass in the high protein Diet Group and this occurred in spite of the fact that they consumed over eight hundred calories more per day for eight weeks and quote. Now how is this even possible? Where did all of those extra calories go? After all eight hundred extra calories a day for eight weeks equals about forty five thousand calories, which according to the Conventional Calorie, math should have translated into a gain of almost thirteen pounds, and in fact when you look at the actual data, you will see that the subjects did gain some weight just not nearly as much as the old school. Calorie math would have predicted. In the group consuming the extra protein, the average change in weight was a gain of almost four pounds, meanwhile in the control group, who purportedly changed nothing about their diets or workouts. The average change in weight over the eight week period was a gain of almost two pounds. Similarly both groups gained some muscle. The high protein group gained an average of four pounds of lean muscle. The control group gained just three, and both groups also lost a bit of body fat. The high protein group lost a bit less than the control group. So how can the researchers conclude that eating the extra protein didn't lead to any way change or changes in body composition. Well because the differences between the test group and the control group weren't large enough to be statistically significant. Now, I want you to keep in mind as well that this was a relatively small study, only about thirty subjects completed the study, and there was quite a bit of variation in the results of the individual subjects, and sometimes that gets a little obscured. When we're just talking about averages for example in the group consuming the extra protein, the average change in weight was A. A gain of almost four pounds, but some of the subjects in this group actually lost weight while others gained twice as much as the average, and when the variants and results that wide. You'd need a lot more subjects in your study before those averages would be very meaningful. Okay, despite all of these statistics, nerd caveats, it is still somewhat surprising that the group that eight. Extra calories didn't gain more weight than they did. And that the differences between them and the control group weren't bigger. Before I go on. Today's episode is brought to you by hair food. Just as you feed your body with delicious nourishing ingredients, your hair is also hungry for real nourishment hair. Food uses the health wellness and nutrition principles that you use to take care of your body and applies them to your hair, so you can feed your hair the way you feed your body hair food is free of sulfates, parabens, dyes, and mineral oils and full of real food ingredients, so you have the peace of mind of. Of knowing exactly what's in your products, hair food just launched a new color protect shampoo and conditioner collection, made with the essences of white nectarine and pair, the white nectarine and pair color protect collection helps colored hair, stay bright and vibrant long after your last job, it has over one hundred five star reviews I love that their mission is to use only the purest ingredients, so if you WANNA feed your hair like you feed your body checkout hair food available now at Walmart for only seven ninety seven. Part of the answer to the mystery of the disappearing, calories may lie in. Something called the thermic effect of food. And this refers to the calories that we spend digesting and metabolising our food in my previous episode called metabolism myths I described. The thermic effect of food is a sort of transaction tax that your body charges you to convert the energy in your food into a form that your cells can use. It's kind of like changing money in a foreign country in order to convert your dollars into euros. You have to pay the money changer fee as it turns out, you pay a significantly higher transaction fee to convert protein into cellular energy than to convert carbohydrates fat, and in this sense, all calories are not created equal. Now the thermic effect of food is also significantly higher in very muscular individuals than it is in normal or overweight individuals, and this may partially explain why these young bodybuilders seem to burn through all of those extra calories from protein or most of them anyway. As the researchers point out quote. It is very difficult for trained subjects to gain lean body, mass and body weight in general without significant changes in their training program and quote in other words, if you are very muscular, and you want to gain weight or muscle, simply eating more isn't GonNa, do it. You're also going to have to lift more, and that's pretty much what this study demonstrated. But what does that mean for those of us? Who are no longer twenty years old with twelve percent body fat. While previous studies have demonstrated that feeding people excess calories, even in the form of protein pretty reliably leads to weight gain. The biggest difference seems to be that overeating higher protein diet lead you to gain both fat and muscle. While overeating a lower protein diet leads to gaining mostly fat, and so here are my takeaways for the rest of us. Increasing your protein intake may offer several benefits including gaining or preserving lean muscle tissue, having greater appetite control and a small boost your metabolism thanks to that thermic effect of food, but to avoid unintended weight gain. I suggest that you reduce your intake of calories from other foods to compensate for the increased calories from protein, and before we wrap up here, I have an exciting announcement. Announcement Brooke Armstrong. You may know him from the get fit guy, podcast and I have just launched a brand. New podcast called the Change Academy. And we talk about the art and science of Behavior Change, and how to make sustainable positive changes in any aspect of your life. We'd love for you to check it out. You'll find the change. Academy podcast wherever you listen, or you can visit our website at change. Academy PODCAST DOT COM to get a link to the show in your favorite podcast APP. Thanks Bobbio for suggesting today's topic. You'll find a transcript of the show along with links to the research I reviewed at quick and dirty tips dot com, and if you have an idea for a podcast or a study that you'd like me to look into, you can send me an email at nutrition at quick and dirty tips, dot, com, or call the nutrition diva listener line at four, four, three, nine, six, one, six, two, zero six, and leave me a message. Our show is produced by Nathan Sam's edited by. Karen Herzberg and our team at big. No, an audio also includes Morgan, rattener Michelle list, emily, Miller and our director Kathy Royal. Thanks for listening and remember to eat something good for me.
433 - 3 Myths (and 1 Truth) About Grain-Fed Beef
"Hello. I'm Monica Ryan eagle. Welcome to the nutrition diva podcast. I hope you're having a great week. So far in past up Assode 's I've talked about the nutritional differences, such as they are between grass and grain fed beef. But today I wanted to share some updated information regarding the impact of various feeding programs on the health of the cow and on the environment an area where there are a lot of misconceptions. Even if you don't eat meat yourself. I think you might find this pretty interesting. Looking your best starts with your skin and finding great skincare. Just got easier with beauty by design. You just take a quick skin survey and snap a selfie and for a small consultation fee and aestheticians will curate a personalized care routine. Specifically for you beauty by design has over one hundred products and more than two hundred fifty natural performance ingredients, everything vegan. And cruelty free with no parabens or cell fates. 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Well, today, I have three myths and surprising truth about grain finished beef. The first myth is that all grain finished beef are raised on feedlots whether a cow is destined for grass or grain finishing the first year of their life. Looks pretty much the same after the calves are weaned. They spend another six to twelve months grazing on grass pasture land for the last six months of their lives. Grain finished cattle are fed increasing ration- of corn or other grains, and that affects the rate at which they gain weight the degree of marveling in the meat and also. Flavor of the meat now. The majority of grain finished cows are moved to a concentrated animal feeding operation or Cavo for this part of the process, but not all of them. There are also lots of ranchers raising small herds anywhere from a few dozen to a couple hundred cows who finish their cattle on grain right there on their ranch. If your only objection to grain fed beef is the idea of feed lot, you do have other options if you live in the US, your state beef council may be able to connect you with the rancher who is finishing his own cattle on grain, and there's a link in the show notes for today's episode that can help you find contact info for your state council. The second miss is that grain fed beef eat only grain, I think a lot of us have the same picture in our heads of grain fed beef operations a bunch of cows belly ING up to a giant trough filled with corn kernels. I'm not sure where we all got this mental picture because as I now know it has very little to do with reality. In reality, corn or other cereal, grains, make up only a fraction of grain finished cows diet. In addition their feed continues to contain a lot of dried, hey, and grasses alfalfa as well. As a lot of other parts of the corn plants, including leaves husks, and stocks in fact grain accounts for only about ten percent of grain finished cows, total food intake, the rest is plant material that is inedible to humans, and this is one of the things that make ruminant livestock like cows. And sheep unique. The vast majority of the food that they consume cannot be consumed by humans and much of that grows on land that is also ill-suited to the cultivation of human foods for other species of livestock, such as pigs and poultry a much higher percentage of their diet is made up of foods that are also edible to humans. I have one more myth. Plus, my surprising truth, but first we also received support this week from blinking, whatever. Your goals are for the new year. Blinking can make it easier for you to achieve them blinking as the only app that condenses thousands of nonfiction books into the best key takeaways and need to know information. 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Repeated myth perhaps you've heard that grain fed cattle have to be given extra antibiotics because the grain makes them sick. This also turns out to be a widespread misconception. If feeding grain to cattle require the administration of antibiotic. Ix there would be no natural organic grain fed beef cows being raised under either of those designations cannot be given antibiotics and yet you can find grain fed beef in both of those categories like humans cows can adjust to and thrive on a variety of different diets. Good thing too because even for pastured cattle. There is enormous variation in the natural diet available for forage depending on where the cattle are being raised. Now, of course, a sudden change in diet can upset cows digestive system, if your vet has ever advised you to switch your dog to a different food. They probably told you to mix a little bit of the new stuff into the dogs, usual food and gradually increase the new food to allow the dogs digestive system. Time to adjust grains are introduced into a grain finished cows diet in exactly the same way just a little bit. I mixed into a whole lot of grass and hay and gradually increasing the mix feeding grain to cows does not require antibiotics to keep them from getting sick. However in conventionally raise cattle, antibiotic like substances called Yana fours are often used to change the mix of the bacteria in the cow's Rumen sort of the way you are. I might take a probiotic to change the mix of bacteria living in our intestines. The goal is to promote the growth of those bacteria that aid in the digestive. Process and allow the cow to extract more energy from the same amount of food. And now for the surprising truth grain finished beef, actually has a lower environmental impact than grasp at beef. Isn't that exactly the opposite of what you've heard? I know it was for me. However, the fact is that grain fed cows consume less feed and water, the ultimately produce more meat per animal than grass fed cows and all of that contributes to a lower carbon footprint grain fed cows, also produce less methane gas bacterial from tation of food stuff in cow's Rumen creates a lot of methane gas and cows burp that back into the atmosphere and methane gas. As you probably know is one of the so-called greenhouse gases, but because grain requires much less bacterial from tation to digest than grasp grain fed cattle. Emit less methane into the atmosphere. My goal in sharing. This information is not to say that one kind of meat is better than another. Or even that a diet that includes meat is preferable to one that doesn't the decision to choose organic or conventional grass or grain fed or even whether to eat meat at all involves a lot of different considerations, including nutrition taste, cost availability, animal, welfare and environmental concerns. And how you prioritize each of these to be honest with you this is a decision. I'm still sorting out for myself. But with a decision this complex, the least we can do is start with accurate information. If for example, your primary reason for choosing grasp had beef is the belief that its carbon footprint is lower than it's useful to know how to actually stack up. You'll find a complete transcripted today show with links to some of the published research that I reviewed and other resources, and that's at nutrition diva dot quick and dirty tips dot com, and if you have comments or questions on this topic or any other nutrition subject, you're welcome to post them there on our website or on the nutrition diva Facebook page, I'd love to hear your thoughts. And now have a great week. And remember to eat something. Good for me.
"Hi I'm Brad Dorothy. My name is calling salmon all Jennifer going on this Katie sack off. Hey It's Greg Grunberg. My name is Gareth Edwards. My name is Neville Pigeon Concept Designer in film. Hello. My Name. Is Matt Brewer and welcome to sci-fi talk? Hi this is Tony Tomato. Welcome to sci-fi talk and today I have mono n Que Mais who you might remember from Star Trek Voyager. Playing each on that series. It seems like a while ago and it has been a while. But you've been a busy man you've gone into producing and directing. Was that a natural evolution for you to kind of go in that direction. Yeah it sort of dawns on you when you reach thirty that if you don't stop producing your own material Hollywood's going to forget about you and it's true if you look at all like the the the a-list actors every single one of them ninety nine percent at least our producers as well And Oh yeah is their own material Find their own scripts etc They have their own companies and so at thirty I produced my first Benjamin trouble and just been naturally you know I also act outside of producing still but Sure definitely want to continue to produce and hopefully This year direct. Yeah it's it's sort of a natural process in the evolution of an actor if you WanNa keep your career through going for Throughout your lifetime. Now let's talk about before we talk about the past. There's a lot going on in the present. Zeno Phobia is that. Is that your latest film. That's how I didn't produce it but it is my latest film. That's how a wonderful little Oman has to like the eighty s Horror films where they used all practical effects and it's basically five abductions And the the movie is is based around a group of like alien abductees meet each week to help each other feel with what they're experiencing and you get five stories that these people go through and the leader of the group is this weird guy played by me who wears like a tin foil under is under his hat. Super Conspiracy theorist and that ball and It's fun it's like you know if you love but if you like that eighty style visual effects that was the whole point of making the movie was to go back to practical effects. Latex and foam and Rubber and blood and and slime instead of computer generated. We'd just premiered in fact on the first and it was really really fun film to watch later because it doesn't take itself too seriously and Lot of lot of laughs and a lot of scares and just a Lotta Fun. If you're into that kind of moving yeah there's nothing like watching it after you work on it with an audience. That's gotta be an amazing experience and you always cross your fingers talking other actors that everybody laughs at the right places and get scared at the right places but when it all comes together it's nice. Yeah and xenophobia. I only worked on it for two days. They shop out really quick. But my but my you know my story is what connects the whole film so they keep cutting back to me leading the group right right and so. I didn't really know how the film was going to turn. I was super nervous when I went to the premier 'cause I was like I anything I decided to do promote and I was like. Oh my God there's just GonNa be a horrible horrible thing movie. It is a B. movie but it's a fantastic movie. That was really I was well. I was really happy that I had done it. And the people behind it are really good people and it was just a good night and hopefully people see the movie. It's available anywhere you stream movies now Yeah if you stay movies there just type in uniform. Yeah that'll pop. It's a different world now. That's for sure. Another one that you are in but also executive produces circuit kinda tells a little bit about that one. Yeah the circuit is a project that we started five years ago on it and the and the and originally it was going to be an anthology series based around ten stories that happened at a start at a science fiction convention and we were going to do ten different genres of movie that that take place there and we did a kick starter for it and we got a bunch of great actors together for it from the SCI FI universe but we didn't hit our goal so we decided to to restructure and then it became the ten stories that happen at this City called Irby. So which is this? Futuristic Mega City of the future like pictured judge dredd. You know when they had those just he's the size of countries and so we were going to do ten stories that take place there then. When we hit our goal suddenly investors got involved and we decided that we were gonNA shoot a feature length episode. One it's aside it's hilarious. It's sort of a cross between The first episode is sort of a cross between a galaxy quest and Shaun of the dead Okay a bunch of has been. I can't I don't want to say too much but a bunch of Has Been Actors from the greatest science fiction show. Honor basically have to relive their final episode in the future. And this time it's for real and it's it's really really funny but we we've been banging we had a screenplay competition and all these plays came in and then we read the mall and we pick the best one and then it changed a million times and I had a bunch of different writers. Write it because I don't I never wanted to go forward with this thing until with any production until the screenplay is solid and we have we finally have a solid screenplay I'm really excited. So OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. We'll be looking just finished financing outside of crowd funding and then she the the the first episode. What's I mean? What's that like for filmmakers now in particular in your case? I mean we knew were on Star Trek. It was a whole different world and now because of crowd funding The audience literally getting more involved and and putting their money where their mouth is literally now What's that like as an actor and also as you know the executive producer trying to get something like that off the ground? That's a lot of work you know it's an and then what happens is like when when I went to do the circuit the first time around. I was almost sure because of the actors that I had involved. We've got we've got People from the Hobbit and the Star Wars and Star Trek and bounce star Galactica farscape and. Mostly it's just all these different great actors if you go to the circuit film Dot Com. You can see everybody that's involved. Ryan Eagle that. But you know from the blacklist and just a great performance and Black Klansman. We just had all these really well known guys so I thought Hey. We'll raise the million bucks easy forceful shoot this film. But we didn't. We raised one hundred thousand which was still great but we had a film shoot. I've been living for the past ten years in the two to three million dollar world To the five dollar worlds not only as a producer but as an actor. I've been in a lot of these films or associate producer on these films and it's really really hard to get a good movie in the can and finished or in the drive these days. It's not even in the can cause there's no anymore. Yeah let to get it finished into end to have it be high quality and and something that the audience is proud to put their money behind is really hard to do for less than a million bucks so we got that first hundred thousand and we're getting really close to the budget that we actually need to do the whole feature at basically. My plan is in the next two months. If we don't financing I'm just GONNA shoot the first thirty minutes film and call it episode one And then go back to the crowd funding but I really prefer after a couple of years time now since we ran the kickstarter to to give the people a feature film that they can be proud of so the website is circuit film Dot Com for people. Yeah check it out. And there's people like Doug Jones under current star Trek Terry Farrell Rene Aubergine Wa who I totally love and Corey Namic from the Stargate World Robert Beltran from Voyager G G F from Farscape Ethan Phillips from a Star Trek Voyager and also John Billingsley. From enterprise and not to mention timber. Us An arm in chairman and yourself and even Dr who so vaster. Mccoy's in you too. So it's yeah and it's a. Who's WHO's tastic. He plays the yeah. He's great withered in in the Hobbit. Yes that's right. His name Rattigan radicalized brown or something like that. She was on that sled. That's all I remember. Yeah it would be weird funny but it was great. Yeah he's such a good actor and and that was the other thing that was really challenging is all these actor friends of mine trusted me to do this thing and then to write a screenplay that they could all be in was like. Oh my God. How many characters can be in. What movie Yeah without without somebody having having to step aside smaller role so we came. We came up with the concept and I. It took a long time. But we're really happy with with what we have. And I think people are really gonNA love. The tentative title is Star Crew Episode one bizarre boxer verbiage ESA but that may not be the title in the end because things always change and while you're of course the distributor might WanNa Simpler title but I like big long title and we also have some interest from some legitimate a-list actors to play One of the lead roles which just the captain of this crew of you know like the basically told you the concept of of the show from some actual real top talent that can hold the center of the poster for so. It's going to be an exciting. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention one of my favorite Klingons and Robert O'Reilly and another favourite Klingon. Jj Hertzler to to to great guys. Talent is absolutely amazing on this APP. So I certainly wish you the best of luck with that so we still have more with mono we'll take a short break and we'll be right back we'll be back in cheer into hi there. I'm James Do and author of be me up Scotty and also another book called rising which is a fiction one and you're listening to Sifi talk with Tony. Delgado you got it back here on Scifi. Talk there's something I have to ask you before we get into star. Trek is renegades. A very interesting concept has started out as star Trek renegades and I know that Tim was behind his I even interviewed him about this When it was still star Trek renegades and then essentially paramount changed the guidelines for fan films. But I don't call this a fan film because I kind of call this as the the semi pro ball a fan films where you have a lot of professional actors in it you know including yourself but what was it like to just drop the star trek part of it and just go renegades. I it was also a lot of professional crew to we had been not just the actress but the entire crew right. That's really talented You know Hollywood nor normal. Cg guys and the DP and etc set design all those type of jobs were done by people who just loved Star Trek and wanted to be a part of something that wasn't star Trek anymore but was essentially still very very star Trek. We just we had to drop all the names and take off anything that could be. 'cause 'cause episode wanted already came out called. Star. Trek renegades out was ever so yeah renegades so we just had to dietrich it and it was. I had no car and because I didn't produce that film. I os just acting in it but it was where I write. It was interesting to me to see how they did it. And it was smart. How they went about Following just to the to the to the t you know just to the edge of the legalities of it. They were really really intelligent with the way that they did that. And I thought it was. I thought it was a great move and instead of being you know suit by paramount and nothing coming out Sky and Tim were smart enough to find a way to make a movie for everybody. With the the 'cause they had raised quite a significant amount of money as well too. Yeah Oh yeah. Absolutely that they were able to deliver. And that's the thing about crowd funding. That's so depressing. Is that so so many productions that End Up not getting made or not getting finished or and then it. It really sort of muddies the water for everybody that doing something that they're going to deliver on a lot of people are never made a movie before so they crabs under then they realized how difficult it actually is to make a feature film that they think they can make one for twenty thousand dollars and then they find out. That's about what today's shooting costs as I understand. That was Walter Kanaan's last appearance on film. I think he's pretty much retired at this point Well he's still a part of the circuit with us as long as he he is. Yeah he hasn't read the screenplay yet but I I absolutely still walter to be a part of it I Okay Months. But few months ago he was still on the team so How good gearing as as as a check. Yeah but he. Yeah in the movie I he's One I. He's one of my favorite personalities in the Star Trek World. I really like that guy. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's can't wait. And IT'S THE RE. They're renegades in the first place was it was kind of checkoff signing off Sorry and and I wanted to see him get a heroic storyline and to be there to watch a film. That was A humbling an exciting moment. I thought it was an interesting idea to kind of. Go to kind of circumvent starfleet and and and do something You know well renegade So I thought that was neat. I thought it was a good way to to kind of bring the Star Trek concept a little more today but still keep the beliefs and everything but just kind of spice it up a little bit. And it's everybody was caught flat-footed when paramount. Cbs paramount came down and essentially changed the rules. Minot and discovery. They don't want any other star Trek's floating around because people are paying money to see their shows now so it's That's the latest trend. Is Aol the major studios are launching their own channels so as fan your dollar gets really stretched and you really have to pick and choose so I it's it's GonNa be weird it's GonNa be like what channel do you know? What's your by Yeah but that's definitely where we're headed and It looks that way so star Trek Voyager How do you look back on playing each ebb? It was that whole storyline. I thought was really interesting to kind of bring all of you together. And it was kind of like a misfits and really didn't have any place to go and I totally was fascinated by that. And you know to TV show and there's a lot of speaking parts and it's it's hard to cover everything and got there was I think more to tell there but you know that's that's the way it went. I think they had A. They did a phenomenal job with the Egypt character They find this kid out in deep space who has a virus in his. Bloodstream is bred to kill Bork. They debord if I am. He basically has to find his personality again. Which is a story. They've told over and over again. They did it with Hugh they did. It with seventy nine and then and then they did. It was seven of nine and me each and but it's a great story and then over the last two seasons. They found what I thought. Were eleven really strong episodes for this kid and what he was going through. And and the things that he was facing I really loved the episode with his where they need his parents. And they find out what happened to him and how he was originally assimilated There was an episode called imperfection that I cried when I read. I called my mother and my mom bomb. I'm going to get to be a part of something that affects people and I was like you know losing it Excited visiting my. I was twenty one years old at the time so just to get to work on something that was going to touch people's hearts and in that one each of sacrifices critical nodes to save his friend and it was sort of a a metaphor to like. You know organ transplant. Or to give for for your for your your family or your friends and that. I've you know I've gotten letters over the last twenty years and had people think me of that we're dealing actual You know kidney operations or transplants to heart or something like that thinking back on it It was awesome. Yeah wished in the final episode. I would have had more than one scene and we would've gotten to see. I assume that he gets back to Earth because he's on the ship he beats to Vakhin right game cubs. Scott even I forget claw at Tall. Yes one way you stick a little thing in the orbit absolutely and hard. They played it many times. Donate Show Yeah. So he gets home. I am then from there. You know I guess you go to the Kirsten Beyer Voyager books to to wear he and yeah you know I just. I think the writers did the wonderful job because in the beginning when he first became he all the all the board kids and him Got On the ship both free apple of episodes. It was just like each was just this whiny kid brat. That didn't want to do as his chores. Or you know his homework. And I thought that was gonna be it and I thought. Oh my God now. We're stuck with all these kids on a ship. I'm a Brat and I'm just GonNa play this kind of Bratty kids for two years and that's going to be that but they made it so more so much more than that and as soon as that episode with my parents came along I I knew at that point that Oh they're going to make this character a real part of the show and I think it was sort of like a test episode for me after and the character as likable to the audience. It all worked out and sure there were like you said it'd be great if there was more detail and more seasons. I really line of having somebody with a virus in in them. That's bred to kill the board as he grew older would be a really neat thing to explore but The show we couldn't do it so have you. Have you seen discovery at all? I haven't and I actually. I'm so excited about Picard for that. I'm going Yes oh by. Cbs Access and watch it real quick But I'm excited to see I've I've been excited if the last couple of years but I didn't want higher it it and Ryan Right. Yeah I'm going to actually bins. Watched the whole thing might before card comes out. I was at San Diego Comic Con and they had a an exhibit Picard. The first duty and really it was really kind of like pay cards life and they had so many Easter eggs and nuggets from Picard 's career on Star Trek from uniforms down to the flu that he played in the inner light. I mean it was really really. Well done how they put it all together. You know and to see all the they had models of every ship he commanded. You know right up to the last in the enterprise e so it was it stargazer all the way to the enterprise. That was really neat. So I the lines were like I got to see it on. Press Day but I would walk by deceive. I can go in there again and the lines were always long so It was a popular popular event. I am curious to see how they do it. Very secretive storyline so far You know seven of nine is going to be on their Jerry's coming back and Brent spiner coming back so far so depending on how many years is room for more of you to come back. I was going to say that. I think it'd be neat for each to kind of make an to at least make an if not more on the short tracks which are the shorter star. Trek Things they do usually ties into. They did for discovery and they tie into the series discovering and you could do the same for Picard so that'd be something to To aspire to. I think there's a few people over there that are good friends of mine. Roddenbury I love and respect and I made a short film with him called instant. That is very beautiful. If you haven't seen it yet you should check it out on the roddenberry website. It's on Youtube called instant with him and trevor. Ross who's also showrunner over there And Garrison buyer who wrote all the. Voyager novels was a fan of Egypt character. So I think there's definitely a possibility that he'll make an appearance and if indeed from the trailer it looks like they're fighting the board again and seven of nine is there. I could not imagine that Egypt would not be by her side at some point to fight that battle If that indeed is the story line just from watching the trailer. My theory is that the board have achieved perfection and that girl that runs into. Picard is perfection. She's completely looking like a human. She's she can do anything you know that the board of looking for except when she achieved perfection she broke away from the hive. Mind because to me to be perfect is to not be controlled by one mind to be an individual so she said. I think she's from the and this is you know this is just conjecture. I I know nothing about the story. But that's my theory and she so she's she's running card to be like look. This is what's happening they're coming. They're coming for me because they they want her. They want perfection but but they want it to be controllable and still be a part of you. Know the the highest that's interesting that's an interesting theory and You know certainly that I'm I'm GonNa look look at the trailer again and scrutinize a little. More I actually I actually Auto Polo that technically star trek shirt but it actually just has the Picard family crest they sold their Picard Chateau Picard wine classes and I brought some for my for my wife and then she got a real kick out of it drinking wine from their Chateau Picard. Yeah it was really a new exhibit. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's a coup to get Patrick to come back. There's definitely more of a story to tell about Picard and kind of setting it in Picard present and not trying to go backwards. I think makes a lot of sense and I know Jonathan frakes is going to be behind the camera and possibly in front of the camera to reprising Reicher so Yeah it looks like we'll see this coming back and Jonathan del Arco and I think you know even twenty years ago when I was doing. Voyager there was all this conjecture along the set that what was going on for the next show was gonNA be a show called academy and yes that it was going to be a show where there were malt. Where they they? They brought multiple characters from all the shows In Academy World and. I thought it was a great idea. And then they went with enterprise was also a good idea and a great show but I think the fans have been thirsting for a show that can bring some of these characters together from all the shows And See some of their old favorites in a new a story line and you know forty years later for some of these. Some of these guys With the new. It looks like it's so well produced. I don't know how much money they're spending on that trailer. Looks like a real upgrade from like from nineties Star Trek. I mean it looks. It looks watching the first two seasons of discovery and actually at New York Comic Con Robert Orsi at Robert Ory. Excuse me but You know they were telling us that That they had switched to a I think a different land or different way of shooting to make it more cinematic and the reasoning was people are shelling out money and they wanted to give motion picture quality and it certainly look that way and there are some fascinating You know surprises in discovery especially in season. Two that to me You know as an older fan who's been around a while from the early the earliest star Trek and continued all the way up to now it was nice to see that and I think the show runners particular Robert Kertzman. Who was the gentleman who is now really running all of the Star Trek shows and You know and the effects are just first rate. And when you see the enterprise and what they've done with the enterprise it's fairly impressive so there is room especially with the card to To do that and I'm with you. I think I would love to see different characters. Come in and what happened to this person. And what's going on here and you know it's For CERTAIN CHARACTERS. That always have to look young. Now there's a way to do that so yeah very yeah There's no problem with making people look young if if they needed to Yeah I was blown away. I was just blown away by the trailer general and I think probably every actor from Star Trek after watching the trailer is probably sitting there wondering they're going to get the phone call to become show up. We're all thirsting for it. The fans really cool and started this. Bring back you chip campaign on twitter and facebook and that's really touched my heart because I didn't know there was. You know a passion out there for the character like twenty years later. That that that I've seen from the FAN base I've just been hit with you know On my social media with question after question about whether outlet show up and why should and Blah Blah Blah and so every day? It's been like just really. That's the. That's the cool thing about star Trek. In general the the fans are so loyal at so kind and usually such good people Show is got a moral and the show is about a better tomorrow and I don't know I've been thrilled. The last couple weeks just sort of reliving the past through this new show and it'd be great. I just you know I'd be honored to show show up for whoever gets to out super happy for them of Super Happy for Jerry and Jonathan and Marina. Who are good friends of mine? So Really. And the plus the show looks like a million bucks and stop trillion in a big way. And just think about it you know a few years ago. We didn't know whether we were GONNA she star. Trek Trek has always had these periods. Where you know like in the original series was cancelled. And it's like well. I guess you know I guess we're dead and then they then syndication happen and they started showing it six days a week usually right after dinner or during dinner and all these people discovered it and then After the last are trek film with the next generation. It's like well it looks like you're done and then you know here we are so yeah and then there was one of legal problems and finally Cbs I mean they weren't gonNA sell their property. They were going to hang onto it and they did the right thing. And now they've gotten Show runners and people involved You know You mentioned radnor Mr Roddenberry and Trevor Roth and also Nicholas Meyer people like that. That are kind of at least on. An advisory board purpose in Kuwait was that they hired curse buyer. Who wrote all those novels just inside of the of paramount for pocket books? They've done an incredible job On both discovery and looks like Picard. I mean the looks good. I can't imagine it shows but amazing. Yeah and then. They've got to outskirts. Man You mentioned but they also have like a key Akiva Goldsman and all these big time like legitimate big time a-list film producers are producing TV show So yeah they've got. They've got quite a team over there. I also think including Rod Roddenberry is was key and so for him to you know get to fill his father shoes and and making show at at Just the genealogy of of of his dad's work because I know his personal journey you know connecting to Star Trek over the last twenty years Has Been Powerful and then getting to then be involved with the show must be must be awesome. Yeah absolutely no. I'm really glad about that. At and Yeah it's They look like winners. And I'm looking forward to the next season of discovery coming up in twenty twenty and picard I think is in the fall so my wife and I are subscribers and We love this short tracks to and there's actually read that That spock is going to be in one of the short trek so and also Captain Pike looking forward to that and I'll tell you anson mouth and easing pack. A really stepped in to iconic roles. And they really have made their own. They really have package really nailed. It spotted in my opinion. He's is hard as derived place and he has the talent to pull it off and he's He's giving his version not trying to do an impression which I think would be a mistake. So it's it's a good team there and for Star Trek fans it's a good time to To to follow it and I can I just can't see not subscribing to the paramount Annette channel or CBS access. Because of because of the work. They're doing it now. It's there they. They know that people are paying and they wanna give us an an alias product and so far. They're doing that so yeah you can only wear a behind it so I'm definitely handwriting Actually talking with my roommate the other day and I was like. That's it we're in Yeah we know with the possibility of coming back. I ordered all Kirsten buyers books so I could read them and see what she did with Egypt character. And then I'm like and we're binge-watching discovery and I'm going to get so back into this world. Yeah Yeah and the films you know I. I wasn't really a television Star Trek Fan. I was more of film that I love the original cast. I love when they brought back here. Cast new actors. I thought that was a really brilliant and difficult thing to do like. How were they apple? That often and that that they've found actors that were so good at playing. Those are original guys. I thought I thought they yeah job that I know a lot of fans were angry that it wasn't the same cerebral track and more than actions style film that that's just that came with the times and what theatergoers are expecting. When they go into a movie I still really thoroughly enjoyed those films as well. They're definitely not the same thing but they were great films and I enjoy them so star trek still allowed to go in whatever direction that wants to go as long as as long as it's quality television and films. I'm on board. I hear you. I agree I'm a big fan of the original series in particular. The first season was I thought. Amazing and the films. I really think the whole story line two three four and six I thought was Was really well done. And you know Nick. Meyer has something to do with that and And also Leonard. Nimoy studying behind. The camera had a lot to do with that. So especially two three and four as a trilogy. I thought really worked really well. You know by blowing up the enterprise it forced you to concentrate on really what made a star Trek Star. Trek was that diverse wonderful crew. I used to call them that -nificant seven and rightly so so Yeah it was Yeah that's a special group of people no doubt that was the one other thing that was cool about star trek was. I've been a guest star on a lot of different shows. I've been an actor for twenty years and a lot of times he'll go on a show as a guest star. Neil only be there for a week or two and the the main cast will treat you like an outcast like you're not even there And TV actors. Tv Star actors have a higher chance of being just kind of Not a very good person. Then this is what I've noticed op the more famous people that I've worked with in film and Television World the more likely that they're cool people that their enlightened kind giving I I worked with WPRO and eastward and they were like the coolest kind welcoming people I've ever met Star Trek and so all these different shows that I've that I've been involved with. I had been treated really bad by the stars and when I got on Star Trek. I didn't know that I was going to be there for two years so when I got there I was like. Oh my God I knew who all these people were and I was scared that they were GonNa you know. Treat me like a just a guest of week and not even talk to me they were so welcoming and so kind and I think they go out of their way to make sure that they cast good people as well as good actors and that was a really neat thing to immediately feel like I was a part of the family over there. That's nice to hear that now. They're they're definitely they're they're star. Trek has always cast. Well they always cash could people so I have nothing but good things to say about the people I've talked to throughout the years and It's it's been a it's been a real pleasure of mine and and I certainly add to the list. Thank you thank you. We finally got interested. We did we did it. We did it minute. Thanks for being on the podcast and I certainly wish you the the bashed with your own projects and you never know you might see you someday tracking the stars as well cross our fingers. I would love to and I also want to tell people to check out the hell on the border. It's the last film that I was an associate producer on at stars. Knee Ron Perlman at Davis kiosque and Frank Grillo. And it's about Oh yeah Bass Reeves was the first African American Us Marshal. Wow only three years after the civil war so he could you imagine. Wow Oh wow african-amer so officer three years after the civil war so amazing story about an amazing person and that'll be coming out early next year as well so check out hell on the bag nice. Well I certainly love Veron and Franken admired their work Speak their work. Speaks for itself. So I know it's going to be good. They're in it because they don't they don't do just anything so amazing really fun to work with. Yeah yeah he's A. He's a terrific guy right. Well thank you and thank you. All for listening to SCI FI talk and until next time. This is Tony. Tomato take care. I'm Lavar Burton and you're listening to sci-fi dogs.
M2 TechCast Episode 208
"You're listening to the PODCAST. VISIT WWW DOT COM DETROIT DOT com for information. Welcome to 'em squared Tech Cats Paul live Internet radio show offering the latest news at interviews with the people driving business technology and politics in Michigan. Now, your host Matt Roche at Mike Brennan. Brennan and we're back with another edition of the M. squared tech cast on a Monday afternoon it is sixty degrees and sunny and beautiful. Here in Dearborn. Our first guest Gary Baker though is the pursuing a lifelong dream. Of A new business than he says the he calls a half job at a fulltime passion. So Gary operated the first. non-government Internet service provider in Michigan Way back when and was always. Bright into the Michigan Tech scene as far as you could go. So Gary Tillis what what's your? Nice. Good to talk to you. Hey, Mike. Good to see you. Silverstein. Mike. Every every week on our Internet adviser show were still doing our Internet advisor. Shell Radio Show on Wjr six thirty am in Detroit one of the twelve original super stations in the country. So we have a big. Broadcast but Brent but of course, everything is on the Internet now is as well we're in our twenty third year and. joins US I every week to give us a little bit of an idea of what the technology news is around the the great state of Michigan and the new wrinkle to is just started a few weeks ago you're actually doing zoom so people can see the other hosts they. They see me regularly with available to see you and cal and and Ed and and And of course, as you probably picked up on the voice we had coming in we still use fosters intro I we haven't had the heart to change it because i. it's so good. But of course, foster is the one who started the an adviser with you twenty five years ago when it three years twenty, three years ago. Okay. That'd be twenty three years and February. All right. We've been doing the show for a long time I gave up my my actually day job of finally. I. Back the first of the year and within less than two weeks I had to halftime jobs. So I need to I am the CIO or IPC, which is a international trade association serving the Electronics Manufacturing Industry. And I also and the CTO chief technology officer or a little in check and results I and the the the good thing is I can do both of those remote from the vote along with the radio show saw everybody thinks I I must be in the studio and Wjr I'm Mad I'm from vote as I am today here remote from the boat I liked it wants to go remote from traverse city as soon as possible when he retires right man. That's the plan. Yeah. So mine would be fun tune vote on some little lakes. Yeah. Tell a little bit about Sharon adventure I have actually, I actually, I've been on the previous shared adventure. I haven't been done your new one new ones even bigger, right? Whereas shared adventure to I were in the same place in Fort Lauderdale but he Amar Marina which is right here on the Strip so I can actually look out. Right from here's, and that's perfect. Sense of sitting in the stern acted in the boat I it's a fifty one but our Catamaran, it's got more cabins each with their own hadn't shower. Got It. Crew orders with the two bunks and another and shower course. Those are not palatial space but I I speak. Stern cockpit we can sit twelve people around. There's about. Too. Little tables up. There said about six people upstairs on the fly bridge I would wear the helmet drive. We have another Big Table said ten twelve before there will also the things that a dinghy and away. Brunner. To kayaks and stand up paddle boards I scuba scuba gear. Even Yoga Mats You WanNa do yoga about about. Sounds Great. I, know I talked to you about the. Dog. Position. Right. Yeah. Right. Dodging yes I, talked to you about taking a trip to the Bahamas sometime was him guest and even go as far as that right? That's right. Yeah. Actually from here, the Bahamas only forty eight miles I in a little over elite we're going to be heading down to key West for three weeks. And that's about one hundred and fifty miles not not too far spill but. Nice little will do some island hopping along the way on all the way down back. And we take charts it's all my My goal is everywhere I go I, want to share the adventure the whole idea. The whole concept that we have are around Sheridan venture is. We believe everyone should have a friend with about. WANNA be that I, liked that I liked it on. Your Business Card. If, you're not a friend when you get on, you'll be afraid when you get off I see. And and that's the goal and we just have fun. You know heading out going different places because I can work remote from the boat doesn't matter for boats here in Fort. Lauderdale and Key West over and dimity only forty eight miles as soon as they opened up the Bahamas, which looks like they're going to be doing more and more. Now, will be able to get back to go and Bahamas polluted water out there, and you're only you're with a small group of people. So it's not like going on a big cruise ship. The sense of being exposed to a lot of but a different people. I hear we let to help drive, communicate, navigate. We tell everybody you know they really need to have a job when they come on board. So we've got a few people that looked at the beanbag chairs out of the ball, the ball and say is anybody holding those down so they don't fly away with not not yet and he goes that's my I'll take that one. Yeah well. Being, scuba divers always wanted to dive the mini road because really I'm not I don't like the ninety foot dive this snap me but thirty or forty feet I can handle. So I, I'd like to try that sometime. There's a UNICYCLE, a shipwreck. It's about twenty feet of water six up above water, and then goes down to about twenty feet to the floor. And not just. A great great dive out in Ben need a call Suppo- and take a lot of people out there and everybody has fun with at Lhasa shells around. Great big huge propel are lying now or Zainal on. Up or the ocean. I know that when you're in Newport, you can use Wifi. But when you go over the water on your way from wildfire, the use satellite or what you use. So right now, there's about twenty five mile stretch a going across the Gulfstream. Where we. Can't get. Internet, just a hiccup, the Internet signal with enhanced and tennis from the mainland, and it's about twenty five miles before we can pick it up in the Bahamas right now that have been looking into satellite. so far we haven't just have island down to. The Florida. Keys You're never out of bus- A cell rain. Oh and I've been to key West a half a dozen times. It's if I could afford it I'd be that where I would winter I love that place down there never had a bad timing in. Key. West tells you that. So I don't think there is one no, I don't think. Board of your way to have a bad time in key west. So So. So there is one piece of equipment. I haven't heard. You mentioned sons just curious to have telescope unborn Attala scope. Now, we have been noculars. Well. Okay. But no tell us I I would imagine I would imagine when you get out away from land and it's night the stars must be. You know what I'm writing that down you know can happen up here on. Well, a nice telescope does going to set you back a couple of the Jeeze, if you WanNa do really right you know. So Celeste drama or something like that but So let's talk about that now obviously I WANNA give you a chance to do your shameless plug here. So if somebody's interested in reaching out to your wants, she gives us an idea ballpark figure of what it would cost to do various things with you on Sheridan adventure you know we do everything from to our sunset cruises. Up to. Eight nine days in the Bahamas in the keys like I said, we're gone for three weeks here. I will leave any weekend of the seventeenth. Of November I saw it. Just it really depends Me are about two thirds, the cost of comparable boat or other boats that you could take charter. And the reason we do that is you don T we're not looking or that you know I and. Customer that would come on and charter and you know needs a little garnish on on their their food and. We WanNA WE WANNA operate just as if you had a friend on Bo, we've by the Group of friends and were taken off and gone and having some fun and so we don't feel the need to to charge you know the at the rate that most of the other boats I here in Fort Lauderdale Cameo charging you mentioned to make it affordable enough people come back and we get a lot of return visitors. Yeah. You mentioned to be that if if I single person are a couple of just wanted to rent one of the cabins, you could do that. Right that's right. Yeah it it depends now we're not. We're doing less of that right now because of it. you know just trying to make sure talk people space say. So the group or family taken Amazon s that's on because the kids just of it we just don't have all the toys throughout the big Swim Mat. Now we've only had. Fifteen people on Swindon met. So that's If you go to our website shared adventure dot com, you can see the logo whatever it is. SHARED ADVENTURE DOT COM and I. See like. Photos of. People on the Big Swim Mat but. you know people just love to go hang out. Take a libation jump into the water ams. Matt. As long as things you know take a little spin around on the wave runner three person wave runner. Yeah, not. Actually get on the Bougie Bordon get full like a sphere behind that. Yeah, must have to do. And the kids love it. Now, we also have a lot older kids do there's still kids at heart they love. Yes. Absolutely. Even Matinee. Are. Kids at heart so. So the website address if people wanna find I, know I see you on facebook but I'm sure you have a website as well. Right? Yep Yeah facebook Instagram, and then it automatically loads up to our website at shared adventure that. So I know you've got your big keys trip coming up here. What else is on the horizon that people might be interested in? Actually you know we've got a couple other charters coming up or so looking for thanksgiving and holiday charters so. They have not those those dates are still available, but we really do custom. So when people contact us They can say you know we want to do this and want to stop here on c. the Miami Skyline which Utah at Night WanNa see that at night. So Stop Virginia key on the way down around the way back. A lot of. People WanNA stop it. He learned though because you know in half a dozen cool things to do on shore ORCS and then obviously all died sites you Maradas, one of our favorite places with the hen chickens spent. Spent Christmas Eve of two years ago three almost three years ago. And that was fun. We everybody took off. Now, to go back in for Christmas ceremonies and be with family and I was warning and about eleven o'clock, all the boats started heading back on, we're about a mile. Atlantic. Ocean. That that site just a gorgeous place to hang. It sounds wonderful. Especially that we're on the edge of winter up here. I, suppose we won't be seeing you up here anytime soon because it's getting colder, right? The wind problem with sitting outside like I am now in the. Cockpit is the boat across the dock is on the way getting ready to go out I don't know if you can hear that or not. Some Noise Yeah So they're. Just throwing lines on. The boat and it ready to take off so Got About a minute left. So once again, once you give somebody wants to reach out to shared adventure and reach out to you You know maybe book something here because you mentioned, you got some availability coming up where would they do that? And then obviously Mike we want to tell people that go to Internet. Adviser Dot net. Can See you and I on all the previous podcast there and then. You know keep track of what we're doing as well as keep track of you here on I'm not your. Guest as well. All right well, thanks very much for being does Gary I could weather that really nice weather down there. We're thinking of you. I. Mean I'll be thinking of you when you're doing that three week cruise up the keys are down the keys actually. So that would be a wonderful. was. Will enjoy the ions all the way down all the way back. Our Gary Baker once again Gary Baker shirt adventure DOT COM, and Internet adviser Dot net. We'll be back in just a minute with another segment of the tech cast. Doubts met Roche and Mike Brennan. Check, TV Lawrence Technological. University graduates earn a degree and a higher starting salary. In fact when it comes to earning potential the Brookings Institution ranks Lt you fifth among US colleges and universities the enriched be more at Lt you possible is everything. Salaries are Lawrence. Tech Reds are among the highest of any university in America Planet campus visit to meet with counselors, faculty, and coaches. Why wait. Vinyl, board, Lt you dot Edu. What do you get at? Lawrence Technological University. Everything great labs and studios. Supportive Professors Plaza, full campus life, NASA athletics, and all the software you need to succeed. Be Smart be more at. Lt You possible. He's everything. showery reserve Lawrence Tech Reds among the highest of any university in America campus visit to meet with counselors faculty and coaches why wait find out board Lt you dot Edu. Hey It's Matt Rowe and Mike Brennan. And we're back with another segment of the M squared jest and we have as guest with us. Today we have Chris rock of Click debated in a recent investor in the company that blinds fans will certainly recall Mr Herman Moore welcome to the show. Up are removed now there we go. Anymore. Every Okay Yeah You know how to use video, right? Okay. Good. Yeah. I Zoom I a weird experience for me. Okay just kidding. Yeah. So anyway, yeah. Let's talk a little bit about What Click debate it is I had heard the name before but until I got the press release and got a chance to read about it, I wasn't really sure what it was. You guys did. So let's start off with that Chris ensure the CEO I understand the concept but I want you to explain it to the audience Sure Yeah so so We're all about blending the world's between video and commerce. So we're finally giving viewers unique ability to now directly click shop any individual product inside video as they watch. So just imagine watching something line product at you cannot physically click on that product. All information gathered is over to the right and then ultimately will lead you out to the individual age for more information or to purchase directly to video it's all. All right and I don't think Herman needs much of an introduction but we always assume everybody Since we do live on facebook and we rich thousands of people there that may or may not know our guests but I'll let you talk a little bit about your your stupendous career with the Detroit Lions. Free Cake. I. Hear me. Up. You're just barely hear you can boost your. Yeah heard me. We can hardly hear you unfortunately clause trying to try and. Better for you. That's good. That's better. Yeah. Go ahead by appreciate it. Yeah I had an opportunity Chris and. Post career is give me an opportunity to start to look at. Other opportunities are of does from special things here in the state of Michigan but the country knowing this chaotic time is innovation everywhere and having the opportunity to work with Chris in his team in being part of understanding what they were doing with click the rated I've been in the technology space in looking at platforms for God since two thousand eight. Started predict the lyrics and a lot of sports platforms. Have the opportunity now to work with such a young in a growing company in a place, the ECOMMERCE part world but also just the shop video I thought was really really cool because we know that's where a lot of things are turning and so now post I, might NFL career I I look for really nice opportunities like this where I could make an impact. So you've. been impressed by the technology, you were to use a catchphrase in the former owner of the New England. Patriots were so impressed you heard of the company anyway. So so what prompted you to make this investment? WHOA, there's one I having opportunity to speak with Chris very bright very bright young man. And just talking to him about all the steps in first thing I looked at the. Business Acumen. The fact that he'd gone through some ways in which not only to develop this technology a lot things get lost sometimes is how you protect that technology, and also how do you create vary venturing for your competitors and just knowing that he was ahead to curb there I knew that this was a person who is very serious about technology very serious about what they had done, and also that he has put his own time as teams time money and effort into it as well. So if You WanNa see that there. There's some skin in it as we always like to stay in the game and then also I looked at how if I came aboard, I can make an impact with this company not just as an investor. But how can also take the contacts as well as the industries in we're I've impacted or I have connections with to be able to give it another a solid way in which to start to grow and so that made it a a a good investment for me. Because I knew, I didn't have to be passive with the. So you've put your money in and what are you gonNA. Obviously, you'll get equity but I mean, what's the money going to be used for whoever wants to feel them and Chris? Yeah. No, I'm happy to feel that. So you know just to kind of continuing Herman was saying they were her knight formed a great relationship over the last year. So we're super excited to have him on board. I think there's a lot of natural synergies in terms of our company, what he brings the table for both the background standpoint and a network standpoint. We've. We found a good time working together. We've got a lot of really good stuff coming up that is. Will become out here in the market nuts in the not too distant future raw excited about now in regards to the investment in terms of where that's going without getting any real keys specifics What is helping us do is really helping us advance our technology in a couple of places that have never happened before within this market the one area that it will mention as we are just rolling out our view on live streaming. Video Technology, we've become the first technology company on the planet that now enables the direct ability to click individual products inside of a livestream. So now part of this investment is going toward todd we continue to build out the back end for that, we continue to scale out the abilities and the at the of platforms that we can help him back. Now. Let me ask you is it just the livestream or your technology works? Does it work for Vod? our focus from the beginning really has been on Vod side. So we're able to come in. We're able to take tended video that's already been produced. Technology within a video, make it interactive or shop lable on the recorded side. That will continue to remain focus but with the world changing lots of different formats are starting to become more more vital in live streaming is absolutely wonderful because when it comes to the brain retail side of the universe. Brands are looking for ways to communicate more effectively with their audience. Now, lie shooting is really that format that a lot of brands are using both for inclusive experiences and exclusive experiences. I don't WANNA sound to sell promoting but I'm I have some people working on developing my own video platform. It's going to be more news oriented, but certainly Is Is, can you work with other platforms even ones that are? You know proprietary like the one we're building. Yummy technologies always created with the scale integration mine So yeah, we can actually work with any platform that allows us to integrate in. So we've been fortunate through already integrated with a lot of really major platform starting today. Go ahead man. Oh I was just curious a little bit curious as to who the customer is from. This is the brand is at advertising agencies as. Producers production companies in a television producers is if the NETFLIX's of the world, you who would ultimately make the decision to include this technology in in a livestream review. Yes. So right now, our focus is on the brands retailers in a digital publisher's three May. verticals right now, some we've been fortunate enough to work with retailers such as target macy's Kohl's in big brands like Tommy, Hilfiger on armor, etc. So we're we're very fortunate in that regard where we see a really large opportunity again continued to evolve Ephedra is is lifted digital publishers. A we've done work with with the WHO's the world, some of the other properties cutting ask properties, time properties, and what that does is now give them another tool to go out and create more powerful and valuable tool for their ranting their advertisers. So in producing these custom these this custom content. Content should say now we're able to come in activate those videos. Their brands are not able to get that direct shop ability interactivities with the client or with the the consumer, and that's really what it's all about is how do we make it? Extremely simple for a consumer to Assia product in the video, it'd be a access that information by directly on the spot as Raleigh jury. Now, that speed in -plicitly to go from point be which seems nothing that ultimately buying it is really the name of the game when it comes ECON and that combining video and with it as well with the. Explosion of screen time is going on kids lives. It's just it seems simple, but it's really happening in front of us in. The next six, hundred, eighteen months you're going to be fascinating it turns homeless continues to take off I mean, I don't want to sound bad but I mean the pandemic has actually been wonderful for video. And on Demand Video Vod So that's the one good side of the pandemic and certainly it's I mean zoom zoom worth four million for the owners worth four, billion dollars more than it was before the pandemic. So that's really I think. It was slowly coming on before but I think this propelled into the future and and and the other thing that's happening I'm seeing is so many companies that didn't really WANNA. Work remotely now seeing that well I guess we can really pull this off. So I, mean what are your thoughts on? In, terms of dislike streaming as a whole. Yeah, right yeah. Absolutely. I mean. Some should have habits changed for. about changes more I'll be all in terms of other US but yeah, I mean what? We're seeing a massive explosion in terms of live streaming formats. video has a hole in the way we talked about it was no video is already massive coming into this, but it's really accelerated the points that it's never been from a digital standpoint. ECON was the same thing ECOMMERCE. Gigantic. Coming into this but now consumers hesitant to go to the storage security is not the same. Major brands retailers pushing as many of their UBER'S ECON online. So they can still facilitate those transactions is still sell their products goods, but then the middle cart is the thing that's missing is that in store experience or really that that digital experience now, these brands retailers and everybody's turning to video video tells a better story warrants `rational. You could see all these different things, lights and action. And we're just coming in. We're helping solve that that growing challenge with just acting you consumer to those products and helping brands effectively sell in monetize. And Herman you have the Golden Rolodex. So how do you see this playing with a lot of the companies in and the the the network that you have already? Developed. First and foremost I look at it. When a couple of ways there's there's several industries, verticals that by company internally already participates in. So when I got involved with. I looked at which ways would I I you'll is it because then that gives me not to become intimate with product and understanding it but also a giving other areas in which we can do tasks, markets or. Could be utilized in that way gives us statistics gives us data that we can do turn in these case studies in which this has been utilized in. It's been using a very effective way I have a staffing firm there's ways in which I can see how that can be utilized from an education and a teaching tool as part of it not just much any commerce we do a lot with educational. Systems in education systems in developing platforms for that. So there's this remote and distant in blended learning that I think this has an application for we also build allow SAS programs. Platforms are by doing that it allows us as a company to be able to use. In, blend some of these technologies in basically a combined, some of these technologies just as you mentioned earlier might. that may be utilized with another platform so that that's the other thing. It's very flexible application delivery flexible technology. But. Also, when you use any new technology is all about monetization it's all about what is the? The. Upside for the end user where to be a company or customer, and it also would order each party is gaining. That's GONNA, make it even more efficient or profitable or less costly or or you streamline some. So we're we're solving solutions. were taking video for being a very passive. Thing to where it's more engaging of it also allows us just like with any new technology I think there's a lot of days that's a ball. Wants is in the hands of consumers in the hands of businesses. At agencies or are marketing companies, brandon companies. We do have a lot of different a places or which we think it has great application a so we will be experimenting to a certain degree, but at the same time rolling out in a very strong way. Areas where we know it has a great opportunity. All right one of our. Time in this segment. So Chris or Herman WanNa to give the website address or how folks can get further information about what you guys are doing, and by the way you guys you're based in the Detroit area aren't you? Are you right in Detroit are you a outside of Detroit? What we do have an office downtown but working remote for. Corson time at this point so. Cool. So how do people reach out to you? Yeah. So if anybody learn more, feel free to visit our website or click today dot com. And if you want to reach out and explore opportunities. From sales standpoint or from an investment standpoint, feel free to reach out to meet Iraq Chris Clicks Vadim Dot com, and happy to to connect. Aren't sounds great. 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Salaries of tech reds among the highest of any university in America campus visit to meet with counselors faculty and coaches. Why wait fund outboard Lt Dot Edu. Carriageway. Oh, I thought that was A. We're, back. As Matt Cleans off the Lens. I thought it was a little blurry there but I just thought it was a bad camera and it's like Brennan with a clean cameras. So we have calling in Once again, we have The our infectious disease expert Fred Brown and he was off. Very a very own doctor doom welcome Sir off last week with some family things and deal with but he's back. So he has lots of things to catch up on a great slide show he said to his earlier. Let's start off with the measure. It was the easy one but certainly, our president has and appears just about everybody that came in contact with them about a week ago is now come down with covid. So I guess it's not a hoax. Well you know we got a might. My guess is that he that he and the first lady will probably involved in a super sprinter event. and. It probably occurred. You see all these pictures outside. Rose. Garden actually probably occurred inside a prior there was lots of and there's indoor meeting of people and apparently. From the data, we can see many of those people were tested even though they were supposed to have been, and that's disappointing because a obviously, we have a first generation which kind of takes about ten days. Then we have a second generation of of disease that we can expect in about twenty days nettle course to the power right because if you have ten people who were affected in the first round, the select two point five to three people. So then have probably a thousand people affected and avert a on the third time around ten thousand people on the. Way It works sadly. Impacted, would not necessarily catching the disease but at least impacted by by the having opportunity to give susie and we don't really know what is condition is I've been watching all the news report certain like. All over the board everybody has something different to say so I don't know what the real situation is telling the truth. Only. His doctors know probably appropriate I. Don't I don't think. Unless he's incapacitated which he y- The seem to be. I, don't think it's really appropriate. We get into all of his personal medical history unecessarily, but I think we do have a list of all the drugs. He's ATM which will go through a little bit and a little bit later, and that's that is interesting because if you have people who you know who are in the hospital and you want to give them a while. Some of the better drugs that are out there I think his list is a pretty good start with at least talk to your doctor about their additional once you can add depending on your own situations. But at least it's a it's a darn good list to start with. I think one of the reasons you know one of the complaints that we've been having is that people have not been. traced. So there's no kind of cracking tracing like we should be doing and that is because you know probably up to as I said, no, every time were squaring that number. To some awful lot of people get infected by a single incident and they probably don't want to be known for. Potentially spread up to ten thousand people. meter. That's that's the way the spread by this works the. With a single superstar event can really move faster community. Okay so I guess what what I heard is in Intel me if this is accurate to what you`ve Is Trump's nominee for the supreme court handed over the summer. and. I, heard that this morning. And Endless considered to be recovered. Apparently, somebody else in the entourage was not somebody else's still shedding virus Seattle probably at least three or four. Given the even if they had done tests that probably would have been to at least three or four people in that group given our infectivity rate among you know high level. Executives and and politicians of there should have been at least three to four people with his impact cheap held the actually at anybody's was relatively safe. I didn't know about that. I didn't know that she had to have the disease over the summer Glad she recovered from it. It'll be it'll interesting to see you know how We whether there's a significant portion of the Senate as effective Yup. Yeah. To be determined let's take a look at those slides. Epoch speaking of a politics without I'd go a little bit local. I'm talking Michigan. See how we're doing one of the things that happened of course over on on. October. Second was the Supreme Court ruled that what Gretchen whitmer been doing is unconstitutional. that he's continued enforcing. Enforcing. Executive orders even after April. Thirtieth which is as far as the legislature allowed her go kind of continuing to enforce new orders because Yoshi felt that she needed to based on the data that was presented to her by experts. An in full disclosure I am not consulting the State of Michigan. I can sell the seventeen other states and six countries of but I don't consult state of Michigan as Pius sort of interested in. What the impact you don't they say a prophet is never honored his hometown. It's. Well, she's getting excellent advice I put her response as far as the health response certainly among the top ten states in the country I mean we we've done a very good part of his. We're in were with two peninsulas that makes it easier as Korea points out but but I think overall she'd been responding. As well as can be expected I, I work with a lot of states that aren't responding as well and you know I've been sorta jealous of the way Michigan doing. So I'll show you sorta what I was interested in his if I saw on the first slide I just sit here the implications basically she has had over two hundred about two hundred Kobe regulations passed under the Emergency Powers Act. Nineteen, forty, five and the by my ruling that this action is illegal on hundred and sixty of these regulations that she is passed are up in a religious constitutional. I guess that takes up the Heiko will execute this background lower court school implement, and that takes twenty one days from the point of the. That will be Cobra Twenty Third Twenty Fifth Timeframe at that point, if the court Moose for that which are expected to, of course, falling Supreme Court's ruling than than than that would be one a unconstitutionality takes effect. But immediately. The G. Torney general is, GonNa stop enforcing the rules. Now, these rules were that all onerous to begin with them none required jail time. They're all misdemeanors, some fines, most of them are pretty hard to enforce. Frankly I don't think they've been terribly enforced from what I can tell I consulted state of away, and there we had civil will get a ten thousand dollar fines for. So that that that sort of that sort of potatoes descends attention. When he realized that yet I pay ten thousand bucks but here we don't do that as much in. A Hawaii sort of out liar because they are so concerned about their island getting taken over in Germany Switzerland I'm a citizen in Switzerland it can be fifty thousand dollars if you're coming. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Usually easy especially to once twice three times. Yeah. That's all the little guys are with the money so An trust me they make sure you pay it you. You'll have police on your door at that evening. Absolutely. So that gives you a sense of young. People who the the countries who have really taken very seriously and and you know people who are. Laws but don't really tend enforce them that much which is more of the world where we are in the United States the HHS dose have no healthy was does have authority in each of the different areas of the country they have eight we are in stay we got eight regions in hhs can go ahead and limit crowd size in the event. Democrat but unfortunately the AJ Jessica. Live any police force or charging or they can't really charge anybody to if they break the rules they passed. So it's probably not gonna be terribly effective, and of course, the governor can continue to work with the House and Senate to Enact Code Legislation The future I certainly hope they do but you know so far they seem to have been per deadlock. So you know this is my interpretation I have talked to a couple of lawyers. It's the ruling one, hundred, seventy pages long I have looked at some summaries. The the the you know the cheat sheets, and and articles, but I'm not a lawyer. So maybe I I don't think I misinterpreted this. And course I don't consult of the state's not involved directly in. Decision making but this is. What I believe is the case in what everyone is reported case. So they're five big areas that we really tried to enforce. The first one was the Mafsfan Bait and. You can read the actual law. This is that says that you gotta maintain your six feet distance you have to be able to you can't just tell all your customers. You can go ahead and not wear masks zip wounds allergic to masks. You have to actually enforce the mask if you've got customers who are in in public places. And and so that's that's the rule and that seems pretty reasonable. You know it doesn't seem to be out of the ordinary. As mostly very aligned with what is recommended although you know people are unhappy having to wear masks. But if you're if your kid, you can't maintain distance in, you're pretty close to people I should probably be wearing. You should definitely be wearing a massive and there's no doubt about that. Restaurants at fifty percent capacity says that you have to there about twenty rules the after you have to obey they reopened in June as you know, but a said fifty percent normal seating. And all groups must be separated by six feet or more. This is standard You know if you can't separate sixteen, the results are GonNa come and get you especially you sitting in forty minutes waiting for your dinner so that this this makes a lot of sense in my in my estimation as as a health professional. and. You're supposed to wear masks at all times. If you go to the bathroom, get up and take a look around, you're supposed to wear masks coughing people you walk by them and infecting their food make sense. Of course, if an employee comes down with Gobert you also WanNa closed down the restaurant because you don't want people you know serving food you know with having Covid and of course, you don't want to go to phase and drink stations and things like that. Those are all those are all of that order. Now no longer constitutional. Gathering, limits, you can indoor news twenty, thousand square feet as long as people wear masks. This is again about the six foot rule outdoor venues, thirty people, Thousand Square feet or thirty percents exceeding capacity that gives you a sense of where they are insists pretty standard Almost all states have this in place as a record at least recommendation if not a law. Bar Closures they shut down all bars that were where they had at least seventy percent of their sales goal call. But the problem is we don't really track this at all. So we really couldn't tell who's who's bar who got a bar. And it wasn't enforced so. We didn't really have their and you probably don't want to. Go to bars who aren't enforcing this having left drink because you start to lower. If, you start to become more more friendly Adminster, Lori guards into that adds a lot of challenges especially, Dhillon loud music playing, and he got shot over the stereo system so that that probably that also makes a lot of sense to me. Unfortunately, it's now unconstitutional according a Supreme Court and Worker Office Day. So if you go to work up for you protected because of missing people in Work Michigan who could work remote were outwardly are required to keep working remotely that makes sense. and. Then they also laid out requirements office basically distancing in six distancing and signs of personal hygiene or Ryan Eagle. Again. To Distance services all this to me makes a lot of sense. It's all very much aligned with every other state that I've worked with fact every day that I work made this law on that as far as emergency order but just because become law and Michigan is used the emergency order rather than the law but but this is very typical for most states in most states. You. Know I. Think this is also responsible responsible for most citizens to follow. So what happens now what happens now these are unconstitutional. mandate. Restaurants, capacity gathering limits, or more bar closures no more working off space you have to go to work if your boss tells you, they could vary. So what happens? Well, we've done some analysis and there is a the I h Jimmy, which University of Washington is is the is the model that actually the white. House, follows the president trump follows and they actually count the what'll happen if we continue with our current law or we allow easy and the current laws in the Brown and you can see that we're anticipating that. And this is it I I have my own model? This is within ten percent of my model. So it's you know and is pretty conservative frankly could be a lot worse than this. It probably won't be better than this. And and we've got you can see the basically if you ease, we think we're going to have thirty, seven, thousand, six, hundred, fifty, fifty, eight on average within our confidence interval extra cases. Have you think about each how much each case causse avalanches probably leaving consultant in the space and they're saying cost twenty, two, thousand, forty, nine dollars per patient in the United States Union issue gets a little bit more expensive than average right on twenty, five, twenty, six, thousand, I just use their average to be conservative. Some people are are estimated. These costs are actually closer to seven thousand Cetron insured but thousands an average. Yeah. Yeah. Gusts going hostile. either. A couple of days you're sitting you're GonNa you know it's it's it's it's expensive, and then of course, you know that about a third of the a patients have long haul effects and what I did is I said well, you know if you look at the long healthy, these are either effect that you cannot cure scope urban scarring of of loans, hanging Cardi and permanent inflation heart. Central. Nervous problems. Hardens comes a lot more extensive is the COPD cost per year five, thousand, two, hundred, US heart lungs. It's about is probably at this public seven times. So it'd probably cost between twenty, five and fifty thousand dollars a year. US five thousand dollars a year. Times twelve thousand board twenty seven patients is one point three billion dollars of cost that this. This is gonNA cost us as a result of the. In that, just in the next two months. And you can see that this this curve keeps rising right I. Mean it's not stopping. There is nothing to stop it at this point, right? We don't have massacring on. Gathering limits we don't have borrower limits don't have employer limits. So it without without the virus nature's keep going. So this this this this graphics controls upward trend that's not going to curb down bell curve isn't is an automatic it suddenly after work on so that's going to keep going. And then when you throw in the seasonal flu right on. Thousand patients all sudden. You're getting pretty close to overall number hospitals, and that causes deaths to go up. So I didn't even throw that in by the way a my say issue where years what are death rate look like, and you can see that basically Supreme Court ruling of just occurred is GonNa cost us about three times a debts. People in their seventies and eighties, but they'll be a good number of Lauren. There's. Forty fifty sixties. A good number. Probably, ten fifteen twenty percent. So you can see we're really GONNA pay a lot for this for health our health unfortunately now, it may have been the right thing to do legally I there were two big big things that were struck down the first of the nineteen seventy six law that was unanimous. The other law was interesting. It was by it was it was struck down by Democrats and Republicans the Democrats voted three. against voting down that voted at a four four putting it out for. So somehow it looks like politics really got into this decision, and if you're going to be political about decision, then you should be held accountable for the full costs and so you know Supreme Court judge you know you ask them why is GonNa cost two, hundred, fifty, fifty People a day dying in order to preserve the law that they felt that politically they had to support. That's disappointing. Well, it sounds were since for choosing the Supreme Court a month from now on November third. Caesar relevant questions to ask. Absolutely, I think I think I think it's a fair thing to add. To, ask them about and and hold them accountable to So and when you add all this up, it's going to be about about two thousand extra deaths and if you do the math, we that's about twenty point for let's as the standard calculation that that the government uses for for the work of the wealth, the worth of a person. Then using that number is about is about twenty point four, billion dollars. Of cost that this is going to cost us and that's just the next two months. We're not talking about a year from now we're talking about the next two months. You know this is a very, very expensive decision that was made with you know it was without much consideration think about health with helicopter. What do you think the likelihood is that even though some of these rules have been struck down, then the business establishments or the patrons may still do the things they're supposed to do is that likely or not? I think it'll be. makes. A few that really want to open up, you know an and they've been pushing hard to open up otherwise there wouldn't have been a push to have brought this forward of the Senate and House of representative level. Doctor he was quoted as saying that we're going to have to hunker down this fall and winter I feel like I've been home during since March. or bars since March I'll go grocery shopping when I need to not like. Yeah If I if I've been a place where people are wearing masks, I'm right out the door I. Our. I think it's probably smart just because thing is so contagious and and you know I. I was up north last late week and I went to these different groups they. went to all these shops and I went shopping with my wife she wanted to do things and they each one of them said that each one of them had been sort of you know people coming without their masks and they really didn't know what to do about it. They didn't want to be not you know. You know kind of unsupportive of potential customers. So they didn't really say anything but I think every every business. Had that challenge with the law on their side now they have this. Without alongside and of course, they're not allowed to say anything. So I think that that sets a disappointing because I think it. You know you WANNA encourage your loss to encourage citizenship and this case really need to we need to hunker down for probably another year I hate to say it but that's how long is going to take for a good back seem to come through. Might. Citing. Well. So, so the question has been, how difficult have we've got all this seems to be a lot of political fervor about these these these these executive orders, and so I wanted to kind of compare an fact, the the is actually in the model they kind of compares You know what what we've been doing and they said in Michigan where about thirty five percent compliant with mask use. So if you go around eight figure every chance to get to wear a mask versus how much you really where a mess of thirty five percent of the time. And I admit I'm probably at that level. You know I'm you know when I think about all the chances I should have been wearing a mask him. It is eight by a third of the time I've been doing it right about two-thirds the time you know I'll I'll be out there and I. I try to do better than that but but there's about saying about on average based on observation than they use of the University of Maryland Michigan but thirty five percent that's that's that's about the same around the country about thirty percent. Now, if you were in Taiwan, you'd be outlined because Taiwan were they really do masks effectively there ninety, five percents. So every there wearing masturbate. I. Joke I the. Outside you will almost always see someone wearing a mask and that's because they actually enforce. US. Pretty careful. So that's that's sort of gives you a sense of where you know how to compare yourself with how really. Invasive, the executive orders have been an I. I don't think they been that invasive really think back on compared to how much how many lives they saved, how good they probably done. But and for some people it's been it's been it's been a challenge in for some businesses a challenge. Now, the other questions about mobility, and this is coming out of the Mobility Matrix from your phone, and if you've are tracking coming mobility there is you can see that back in April we were way down we were bindis sixty five percents eight percent mobility rating. And Right now, we're at about ten percent. So you know. What you're doing in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nineteen compared to what you're doing this year this time the out the differences about ten percent. So we really we're not really that impacted by these executive orders even though seem to be getting a lot of attraction and having a lot of political fallout. And in fact, if we were to say, let's not let's go ahead and and try to get to the same health effect that these these five mandates create how much ability would have to stop. If I stop wearing masks doing all these other things that now are being required and the answer is you'd have to stop. Sixty three FBI down at where you were in April to get to the same public health effect as this sudden Supreme Court mandate says it's limited always knew let us limit always rules If you really want to get down to the same health effect, you gotTA stop moving around by six percent that is a big imposition my point in my view and Lau allowed you don't WanNa. Are some people not to wear to do all these things that I think are important to impose them. Me Having to stop moving around six three percent in order to maintain the same level health activeness that to me is a begin a much bigger imposition on my. Than I was having. To wear masks and I have gatherings of more than twenty people griffey. So I think the Supreme Court got this. Really wrong. If I, if I had to say in terms of impact of the health impact in the law and our ability to act and be free I, think the Supreme Court got this wrong I really do. So what's the real cost a sacred look if you add it all love I only talked about two months right? Let's just pretend that for the that upward curve just stops all sudden December goes flat. It's not gonNa really happened, but that's all. That's all numbers I could work with Jimmy. Numbers. I got it. I didn't want didn't want affect that. steady January, first levels all the way through as not going to happen it's going to go way up way down, but it just held it sat said he if we do that then over the course of the year GDN p impact just over the next twelve months until we get a vaccine for lucky will be two point seven, billion dollars. That's that's direct out of pocket costs. So you can ask this. Was it worth two point seven, billion dollars. To. Impose this thing for the next twelve months that really impacts our ability to move around that to stay healthy. So the best scenario of the one year that's the DP for the next two months. So we have to multiply that by six for the full-year sixteen point two billion bucks. If you called every restaurant in the state, every restaurant didn't allow them to open it all that would cost seventy, point, nine, billion you could have paid every restaurant. Pretty much to stay completely close. For. The whole year and broken even on this whole deal. And that's a shame. Certainly every every every restaurant it'd be. Shut them down and said, here's your mind. Go ahead. Here's your money because you're that's as much as it gonNA cost anyway out for the supreme, court will go through. And furthermore, the other problem is that the. Haul effects and the and the excess debts are GonNa be with us for twenty years and if you do that math that's about three and a half percent of our economy in the state of Michigan every year for the next twenty years. Where the deficit. So you have to ask them. You know what? What is it worth it? Is it really worth it to impose all of our freedoms? you know the changing of the law, and then the biggest issue I think is the fact that Michigan is going to be unable to respond quickly just as we're going into the fall season, just we're going to the flu season just as Kobe is going to get ramp-up at speed of in the cold. So. This is exactly the wrong time to have this opinion. is going to really impact as badly and we won't be able to control outbreaks across the state will have little. HHS kind of interventions in grand rapids and Detroit and everyone around the state and infecting each other. and. It just comes back to the fact that we've got an exponential growth epidemic and exponential growth virus and all we can do is respond linearly right we it takes time it takes us spent and the governor's what visit the only one in this position I think president trump knew that when they said the governor's after respond. Here you guys have to do this and it's unfortunate that the supreme court in the Michigan had been the only state in the country to override the government's ability to have executive orders tonight an. Understand it right and that really. Is going to hurt. As a state right now, we're doing better than most states in the future will be doing a lot worse than most it's and that'll take about. It'll take about in in November timeframe start to feel this, but we will definitely fields and as far as individual impact. If this happens and the Supreme Court sites in November. It'll come out until June that the as UNCON- is also unconstitutional. Then if you're not insured, you can expect to pay about seventy three thousand dollars for a year for your hospital. Stay Co bid on average, not the twenty, three thousand the Dab Lear pointed out to in that Medicare and negotiated insurance rates Italy seventy three dollars seventy thousand dollars per person in the uninsured space and if you've got long-haul, it'll probably consider be considered a existing condition and you can expect they'd. Be. Pay About twenty thousand dollars out of pocket for your COPD problems. I'm afraid I'm going to have to cut you off there. We got a hard stop at three because Davis, another show is to produce then. Let's What do you WANNA leave folks with here in the last thirty seconds this is pretty scary. It is I want to say the good news is we have a better sense of what's going on with what to take this what president trump is taking and you should know if you're in the hospital if you're. If. You have family members who in hospital talk to your doctor about this course of treatments. And see if you can improve the. Freon town. All right. We're GONNA leave it at that. Maybe we can get your well take those slides and we'll put them up online. So we can read that then I think valuable I think when you go out and vote this year and hold these people accountable for what you think is right absolutely. All right. Well, thanks very much Fred Brown. Now, we got a great show today Matt Takes Out. Well. You've been watching the. CAST CHECK NEWS DOT TV will be back again next Monday at two PM Eastern time right now. And Mike Brennan. You've been watching score check cast Gary. 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Full Cast And Crew Episode 25: Blackkklansman
"The real you alternated. On pasteurized. All right. I I hear you. I hear me to all right? All right. Chris now before you do your patented intro. Yes. On one of the Facebook threads on the Facebook page for full cast and crew which find by going to Facebook and just putting into words full cast and crew anyone wants to do it be easier. Not saying they should. I'm just saying they wanted to I'm saying that they should you may have fun stuff that happens there there is you may have picked up a little motivation. I was gonna give you a series of apologies and their next recording. That's an extra. That's our next door. Neighbor. Do you think the years, according to out really all? I know they hear us have they complained. They have. Yeah. What the irony is. I think you can hear you can hear that coming through the wall pretty probably recording on the podcast. So four days a week all day. That's what I can do. It doesn't bother me. I'm okay. We work in a production environment. There's going to be noise from office. Not a big deal. One day a week. We sit here for an hour conversation. And while we were doing that last week. They apparently came out and complained to one of our co workers that we were making too, much noise. So and it wasn't how much noise can you make cartoon? Anyway, the first apology I want Chris I realized in listening to a couple recent episodes, and you had done the intro for the episode. That's posting today. And I realized that I'd given you some grief on the last couple of episodic introductions that you had done. But what I realized was I actually wasn't really listening. And that's why when I when you would finish your thing because I'm typically when you're reading that. I'm preparing the next portion of what we do. So I realized that in all this is where I'm kind of like underwhelmed. I'm not actually underwhelmed. I'm actually wasn't really listening. So I was like Pala jobs for that. And those were all excellent, by the way, the production. Very good. Thank you. So I'm gonna pay closer attention, and thus be more or I'll be less prepared as the podcast unfolds because I'll be actually paying attention to what you're saying this you actually just in that one section. Trust. I don't I don't. Anymore, but actually give editing the into the spider verse episode? I actually did say like, wait. I wasn't listening that inter again because I was listening to the one for this week's episode, right? So that's my first apology in today's apologizing to Chris episode, so great but apology accepted. Okay. Let's let's go forward. With your introduction was going to be a slew ABC. It was meted out podcast taping. Okay. Well, can you? Remember what the other ones were? So I'll have to refresh. My memory police report case number twenty date, January twenty four th two thousand nineteen reporting officer, Spike, Lee prepared by Christopher pecking. However you pronounce it incident in the late months of two thousand seventeen Lee cure after referred to as the director began shooting a film based on the memoir of one Ron stallworth which would premiere in the spring of the following year. The director used stalwarts story and recollections as a springboard to examine the pervasiveness of systematic, racism and ways, which might be combated subsquently to as yet unnamed podcast co hosts have produced a piece of content based on an analysis of the director's work. Excellent. All right. Enjoyed it. Very much. Yes. We argue about black clansmen we are recording this on Thursday and the Oscar nominations came out on Tuesday likely received his first ever nomination as best director, which I found both as in most things having to do with race in America kind of shocking and totally not surprising kind of shocking because I was like a serious spike Lee's never been nominated as best director over he's been making movies. Probably thirty thirty five years. Do the right thing itself was eighty nine. God, that's crazy. Such a good movie. Many before we get that. I do have some viewer mail. Great. The first is a Email which was sent to the pod, which you can do if you're listening. You can Email us at full cast and crew pod at g mail dot com. This comes from our loyal listener Becca from critical would oh you remember back, of course. Yes. The British lady. Yes. The British lady. So she says because then she talked about getting on the train, and I don't know. If critical would Britain crazy next, Pat she lives here now. Okay. Yeah. I just she is from critical would even though she lives here. You know? Chris now peeling back the veil of like, this is hanging make interesting content. Chris like Becca from Brooklyn. Okay. Beca from quicken. What a little more interesting, but they popped that balloon. Okay. Anyway, Becca from Kirkwood writes, dear Chris, and Jason I was sorry to hear about Chris's. Recent French press coffee injury. This happened to a good friend of mine last year, and she also found up in urgent care. Ouch in this instance, I would advise Christopher remove his blindfold when plunging the cafe teary. I don't know what that is no in all seriousness. I remember recommend switching to Chemics better tasting coffee and less risk of nipple burns. I appreciate your animated discussion of bird box, which I've not seen and will now definitely not bother with. And also, it's cultural impact and appeal. It's precisely this sort of quote reading around the text and quote approach to cinema criticism that I've grown to value from the pod. Which is why the vice episode from a few weeks ago left me cold Jason while it was made abundantly clear that you really didn't like the film at all. You seem to have had very little else to say about it other than that it didn't work on any level as I've not yet seen vice with or without blindfold. I cannot pass judgment on the film itself. But as a self proclaimed bleeding-heart, champagne socialist, I was admittedly excited to see a takedown of one of this century's. Great satan's. I'm grateful that thanks to your episode. I now won't bother but would've valued a smidge more context. Historical cultural, critical etcetera in the vein of your unpacking of bird box Jason to this point as it pertains to Cheney. I'd be happy to send you some relevant articles from the nation, which I knew you depreciate keep up the good work. I'm the hooked in solidarity Becca from. Cricket. Now, Chris first of all going back to your French press coffee injury, which many people express concern of that is brings me to my second apology for not taking your French press coffee injury. Seriously, when it was initially discussed well again apology accepted, though, I would say I didn't quite I mean it hurt. But it's a funny injury injury. By actually, I think it was Sarah who posted on the page. What the boiling temperature of water was. Yes. And when I saw that I thought, oh, that's pretty serious. I thought I thought it was one hundred thirty now it's like two hundred thirty or something it's two hundred twelve though that's in Fahrenheit. What's in Kelvin? It's probably like three hundred thousand much better because everything's so much more. I don't know what a cafetiere is plunging the cafetiere that must be that must be the plunger, right? Yeah. Punching the plunder. She could've just said. Anyway, I saw British chemists yesterday. It's like a it's like two glass me together with a wood thing and hourglasses a little like thong a little leather seventy thong around the middle. And I do know people people swear by them. Yeah. So may not try seventy thong sort of attached to my friends breasts, and look if I were to take off the blindfold where with the fun be. That's true. Also, Chris I'd like to point out all I can't. Well is so weird. This is I'm gonna space time continuum right now. Yeah. Because what's known because I'm aware that I know something that people don't yet know from the episode that hasn't yet been released at three nineteen Thursday. Right. Whatever today is there's a tidbit of information that I was going to reference. However, if I do reference it by the time anyone here's what we're doing here. They will be familiar with the information. I'm referring to today's episode which will be released in forty five minutes. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Do understand what you're saying? So I don't know whether to reference it or not reference it in actually I can't even remember what it was. I was just gonna well that certainly makes it a lot. I was gonna say is it's every you know, it's just time shifting because they'll still here. The thing that you would reference earlier than hearing this natural. Yeah. That's where I was. That's why I was momentarily confused. Yeah. Anyway, let's say that for another time. Anyway, thank you for writing in one last. The burn is healing pretty nicely. Look, I didn't say I wanted to hear anymore about it. Beca might moving on to black klansman, which you've seen quite a while ago. I saw when it came out. Yes. And I guess has sort of an interesting trajectory in that. It's one of those movies, and I would put can you ever? Forgive me in this category movie that came back 'til awards life with the Tuesday morning Oscar nominations because black klansman I think him out in August or something was nominated as I said for best director was a nominee for best picture to believe. Yes. So it it garnered several awards best supporting actor Bessette Apted screenplay best, film editing. Yeah. Best regional score. So it's come back to life. I think more people will now see it, which is a good thing. I think it's done fairly. Well, for Spike Lee movie elected a couple of his box office grosses some recent movies, it's making money. And so I think it'll get a boost from this. So I just watch the other night. You don't know if you really did we watch and curious if in rewatching it, you appreciate it more or less or the same as the first time. You watched it. I think I appreciated it the same. But in different ways, I think I was more conscious partially from having done, the, you know, we've been recording this since it came out from being a little bit more conscious of the difference between what's true. And what he did as a storyteller. Yeah. I think I I was more impressed with some of the other performances the subtlety of some of the arguments that I think he is making that are underlying it. Whereas the first time that I thought I was just like this is really fun in such a crazy story. Like, it moves, it's it's not an action movie per se, but it does move very quickly and covers a lot of ground. And I enjoyed it mostly on that levee. It's it's fun to watch. It's interesting. I listened to spike talking to John singleton about. The movie and John singleton's? First question was while the comedy spike was kind of like almost bristled, but he sort of was like, well, there's comedy. But I mean, no one's laughing in the last scenes in the movie, which take the real footage of the Charlottesville incident, use this contemporary footage to great effect. The Spike Lee absurdist appreciation and approach to everyday things that are freighted with race and class is something that's kind of just a fun fun. But it is it's a fun POV to step into and watch on fold because he has such a it's not a jaundiced eye. But it's like it's show sharp is so honed, and it's and it does not pull any punches. I wouldn't shy away from using fun. Just because he as a filmmaker is so so fun. The funny parts are so well observed, and I think that actually doesn't take away from the importance of story, in fact to my mind kind of deepens it, and I don't know if we'll talk about roots Riley's criticism of the film. Chris this film of. Yeah. Boots Riley who made sorry to bother us. Not only a filmmaker. But also an activist. And he has said that there is no such thing as non political art. And so he sees everything through that lens. And he wrote a well reasoned in well researched criticism of this frankly, saying that it lets police off the hook too much, and that its first of all that it's not true that that actually what Ron stallworth did. He did more about infiltrating black organizations to undermine them than he did with more than what we're shown in the movie the undercovers operation ran for three years. Not just the two months right happens in this. And that he spent more time actually within radical black organizations, and he goes into the history of co Intel pro and a lot of what they did to discredit black radical organizations versus what they did with white supremacist organizations like the Klan, they really didn't do very much. So I don't know how true that is or isn't. But just the very lens of saying like the fact that here you have a hero who. Who is a police officer working within the system to my mind. He says that's Renault is it, and I think actually complicates it. And makes it deeper into me what what's interesting about the story is, you know, this debate of can you work from within the system, and like a lot of spike Lee's movies. It doesn't have an easy answer at the end. And I think that anything without an easy answers. Always more interesting. Yeah. I mean, listen, you can have whatever criticism be want. I think he's missing the point that spike is trying to make in the movie, which is if you have this real life story of Ron stallworth who infiltrated the Ku Klux Klan over the telephone and worked in partnership with fellow officer who impersonated him in front of the clan. You have a pretty good hook and story for movie and to spike Lee's credit. He uses that engine, but surrounds it with show much contemporary stuff that feel so on point. I kept thinking watching this movie that it's like a pill. You take after a year forced to sit through green book. Right. So like you've sat down. So we did it in the right order. Yeah. So like you sat down and you watch green book. And then you're like oh gosh. We've come a long way, then you watch black clansmen and you're just like holy shit. This country is so fucked up and has such interwoven racial problems in our cellular DNA as a nation, and it's easy to forget it. It's easy to want to sweep it under the rug, and even well, meaning people can forget, but what Spike Lee does in this movie, and so brilliantly and using the history of cinema is show. How ingrained it is? But he does it in a way that still fun to watch this movie. It's still funny and the scenarios are so absurd that I found it really funny to watch the actors moved through the paces of the movie. The only jarring thing for me was when nNcholas deter oh turned up. I the primary. Felix issue doing? So you have to do set the pocket book on the front porch. The back porch side won't doesn't matter as long as it's against the building you could plant it. Anyway, I got a must see for here to take out the whole thing. We have to do when you place the eight, sweetie. Listen, we have to do when you placed. It is flip the switch Nicotrol with the thickest deepest Brooklyn. Howdy end up in college. I was he in cahoots with the clan in Colorado Springs, some of the clan guys in the movie like specifically reference Italians as something they dislike. So I was very confused as to how he ended up in the mixed. I don't know if it's one of those things where spikes like that's my guy put him in my movie on early wire. But like he could have been one of the cops. He could have been something that was more. I was like took me out of the movie, even though I'm happy to see Nicotrol anytime. He's a hilarious presence in any Lovie. Or do you think he's showing something in that choice? Yeah. I think maybe when you wanna buy spoiler for when you wanna buy c four to blow somebody out doesn't matter. You have a very limited number of people who will sell it to you with you ever. Now. Let's this guy, you know, it's not like New York has not had its own raising own incidents of racism. Maybe maybe that was support. A maybe he was trying to say like look when it really comes down to it like white people will stick together with other white people even some white people. They may not think are fully all the way white the enemy of my enemy friend. Anyway, let's play a clip from the movie, Chris this is one of the early scenes between John David Washington. And Adam driver who plays plays a more experienced police officer in the precinct. And in this clip, he has returned from his first meeting with the Klansmen, John David Washington's Ron stallworth has been talking to on the telephone. And there was some guns brandished and things didn't go quite as easily. They might have expected. Say what trap pecker would had a gun in my face, and he was an Ashur away from pulling the trigger. And he didn't what he could have. I would have been dead four. What stopping some jerk off from playing dress up flippant into? I'm not risking my life to prevent some rednecks from leading a couple of six on fire. This is the job. What's your problem? That's my problem for you. It's a crusade for me. It's job. It's not personal. No. Should it? Be. Why haven't you bought into this? Why should I if 'cause you're Jewish brother the sole called chosen people you've been passing for a wasp doesn't that hatred? You've been here in the clan. Say doesn't it piss you off? Of course, it does. And why are you acting like you ain't got skin in the game, brother? That's my fucking business. It's our business. I'm going to get your membership card. So you can go to the cross burning and getting deeper with these guys John, David Washington. Really good. I don't think I've seen him before. I know he is in Vollers HBO. I know he was a baller in college. She was a very serious running back. And I did not know the entire time. I watched the movie that he is the son of Hollywood royalty. Yeah. I never heard to me until afterwards. I think I read read it just afterwards. Like, I'm kinda glad I didn't know that in a way. I don't know why. When I figured it out. I was sort of like, I'm glad I didn't know that when I was watching the movie, I think I would have been watching his performance for something else. Yeah. Through the filter of how much. Yeah. Denzel can I see? And then when you start to look as I did watch a few real clips of Ron stallworth. He's really perfectly cast the voice is very similar. And I thought you did a great job to. So I I'm looking forward to seeing more of him. I think he's an interesting actor and also did you know that he was in Malcolm. X as a child. No, I didn't know that at the end of Malcolm X when there's like a montage people. He's one of the kids. I liked the Seaney played very much one of the reasons that I again, just seeing it a third time realizing actually read a negative review of this saying in some ways that painted the Klan members so broadly that they were just such so dumb that you kind of lose. But I think that it kind of made an I didn't realize that the scene kinda makes an argument against that. And I think the same argument that we've been making since the election of two thousand sixteen that, you know, it's easy to laugh people off when they do threatening things saith things that are so obviously Richard and yet that can metastasized and become real over time to you know, again, we found in two thousand sixteen and every day sent. Yeah. It was something so subtle that it was that it was in there that was just sort of dropped in and like that kind of resonance I think worked so much better than actually not to criticize a Oscar nominee for best. Inter that residents. Worked to my mind a lot better than actually having them say make America great again, some of the things that were that were a little too heavy handed. Well, I think that's the spike lead nece as the is the the characterization of the Klan members in the movie. You actually have a gamut. I think you have a you have like an arc. You have on the one hand the very funny actor, I don't know up his name who's the guy big fat guy. That's drunk all the time in that guy's fucking hilarious. Eitan you. Did you see on you? Yes. That's right. That's who he is. Okay. I was wondering in before what's his name? He is five looked it up. I mean, he's really funny Paul Walter Houser Poulter Hauser and the guy from the hilarious NBC hospital drama plays. The glasses wearing lead guy. Amsterdam was good fast. He's a good actor. But I kept I couldn't not think of new Amsterdam promos whenever he was on the screen. We all feel like the system is too big to change. We'll call you. When we have a doctor available k on. We are the system and we need to change. Let's be doctors again many way to get your point. Yes. But I think like for spike, you can almost feel him on the page like saying, well, I should give these guys a little more depth little more make them a little more real. But you also feel him at the end. They just like throwing the pets angle. Fuck that. Motherf like they're dumb ass. Yeah. Motherfuckers. And in his book, the real Ron says that himself. He's like look these were not the brightest guys the other way to go. Of course, is that like malevolently intelligent sinister. Like like, a Dick Cheney type to throwback to Becca from critical would. But I do think that amongst the clansman in the movie there there are differentiations between how they're presented the hospital guy that we were just talking about. The new Amsterdam Amsterdam guy what's his name? Let's give him a proper name. He deserves more than to be called new Amsterdam guy by a lettuce. You Ryan eagled Ryan eagled. K tough actor name. But okay. Like, I'm gonna say Ryan eagle. No, Ryan, e maybe no, no Edward sorry. My eggo Chris. Ryan Egle angle. Very good. And he was he was one of he's like done in the way. That's he's not as outwardly identifiably crazy as the I Tanya guy is right. And he's not as comically unhinged as Jasper Pannonia is as Felix kendricks. Yes, another person. I thought did a great job was the woman who played Felix Kendrick since wife. Ashley, Atkinson, fun. Fact I've worked with a couple of times. Really? She looks familiar to me. Why is that she's a New York actor, and so she was might well of seen her on stage, though, I can't think of states things that she's done. I know she was she was in fat pig opposite, Jeremy Piven. Oh, what she you play. That's right. So you've probably seen or not. But I she was on an episode of the truth that I wrote which is what's the truth? That's a fiction fiction. Ashley was also in a short film that I wrote really. Yeah. Which was it was called a love life directed by. Joe Plummer, really? I've seen that. I thought I sent it to you. Yeah. We did this. I think in two thousand fifteen. All I did to dress like is about online dating and I had written and directed different. They would call trying. That's how I got into the Verner Herzog film class. I write and direct something for that. I don't think I saw love life. So she she she was opposite. You in this actually Atkinson, she was one of the people because it was about online dating about being on an okay? Yeah. Dish site. And so you'd have certain people pop up, and then you had her character with somebody who is constantly messaging somebody but not getting any response and kind of she's really good. Excellent. She gives what could on the page even be a pretty nothing part. I brought some cheese dip and crackers. Thanks. Make remember who we are. And what we stand for. We are the organization we have to I read something in the gazette that this nigger named Carmichael held a rally, and that some college nigger girl from the babboons student union was attacking our police. I mean, this is dangerous. Article. That'll be all. Someday, you're going to meet me to do something for you. Just wait and see and I will be right in here. She abuse it with a lot of interesting things and a lot of interesting these between her in the actor playing her husband who was the only one of these guys that I felt was a little too dialed up. He was, but I guess you need someone who always is onto Ron stallworth the entire time and is crazy to everyone else, including his fellow klansman. Right. But actually happens to be right that this guy is an impostor. I thought the actor was pretty intense and scary. Looks like he looks like I have like junior high school flashbacks. Yes. Like he looked like kind of Kate who would like torture bugs, and like kind of be a little bit of a bully. He just had that kind of face bowl cast and crew was brought to you by two different guys on a bench a new comedy series from American vandal star Ryan Flanagan two different guys on a bench where Ryan talks to Ryan on a bench. We keep the comedy simple folks to different guys on a bench videos can be found now on Facebook at chocolate comedy like and follow Chuck ller for the latest and greatest short-form comedy videos. Chuck ler original comedy delivered daily. Two other good. Shoutout. Roles. Always good to see the other bosomy. You're regarding Michael action to the other two touro that was my reaction to the other the whole time seeing him Steve. Maybe I'm Michael Bush. He is good. I mean, he's one of those guys where like you see him very infrequently. But when you do see him, and I believe this is a quality that he himself owns. I don't think that I'm ascribing this time because I would feel fund -ly towards Steve Shammy. Right. I just think that he's bosomy ask in his look, but different. But he's also a little less of a caricature like a comic caricature just in the the way his face looks and his voice like he doesn't have that thing. That's debauche has that way. But he has it a little bit. So it's sort of like it's under there. But he's he's a little more normal. Looking. I want to say, yeah. But he was great. And the other guy that I loved and I was like, oh, this is some serious. Hollywood math that we're doing right now is Frederick Weller who plays the Qripoli evil racist cop runs says where I would have to diverge from what boots Riley say I mean, there's plenty of bad cops in the. Movie doing bad stuff. If anything the sort of come up in that, the Frederick Weller character gets at the end of the movie is a little trite, it's a little wrapped up a little neatly in order to have something bad happened to him that was part of the criticism to hops wouldn't do that too. He's would cover up for him sort of certainly like that kind of a live. In fact, the movie ended perfectly well about ten minutes before then. And then this whole kind of tacked on N section where this this whole thing is has this feel good resolution at a bar felt a little tacked on. Maybe it was maybe it was something studio sort of asked to put on. I don't know. But but anyway, he is. So I looked at him. I was like God. He looks like Peter Weller. Robocop? Right. So I start looking him up, and he is. Peter Weller is his uncle. Wow. I think wait. His father is Peter is Peter Weller, brother. Yeah. That'd make him. Yeah. Make no kidding. We know he's rollers cousin. His father and Peter Weller our brothers right there. Fathers are brothers. Right. So that would make him. This is a this is my nephews is disconcerted kid, but your nephew is. You're just saying the I'm db page says he's the cousin of actor Peter Weller. But I don't think that's true their followers are brothers. That means he's the nephew of actor, Peter Weller. Anyway, you know, that's not. That's a thankless role. Yeah. It's cartoonish. But again, I think that given the tone of where we are in the movie, which has an absurdist comic tone throughout its we're not here for nuanced characterization as much as we are as you said to move the story forward through the through the beat that it's going to go through. And I think Spike Lee is such an Oto director like he's got a he's got his vision. He's got his vision and his way of doing things and some of the things are more stylized, and that's actually one of the. The things that that I love about his work is that he does allow that kind of styles as he does allow it to be a little bit already a little bit sort of out there. And that's just part of who he is. And so it always it feels right to me. So another interesting Peter Weller correlation to the cast is superior Weller was RoboCop and RoboCop one Andro bo-kaap too. But not but not a RoboCop three. Yes. Robocop three he's played by very capably next. If I thought about movies where you have a main character who's replaced by another actor this made me think this might be one of the best replacements of a main actor ever in the history of movie franchise. Yeah. Because Robert John Burke who plays the chief in black clansmen replaced. Peter Weller as RoboCop and RoboCop three, and I think he's did a pretty damn good job is robo Cup. Drop the gun you are under arrest. Thank you for your cooperation. Good. Loiter? Called for backup. I did not see robot three even though that one I think is actually written. That's where he fights ninjas. And so it was based on what your what your take while he was written by is if that's a bad thing. Well, certainly not in one thousand nine hundred eighty whenever but it was written by Frank Miller who yes, the comic book writer who he loves ninjas, and he loves putting inches and stuff. Right. So yeah. Just interesting aside have Peter Weller connection. Peter Weller, but no Peter Weller a love Peter Weller. Yeah. Me too. Did you ever see? I'm gonna have to look at Peter Weller. Hold get lunch. No, what's the one with Adam win. To rapture. No, no you ever. See the rapture. No gas a great movie. I think Jesus. It is. But it it's a great. I he's probably not even in it. You know, it's funny. I always look at things backwards. Like, you said it is looking up the movie title. I look up Peter Weller, and I'm like going through all of his credits to see if the rashes rather than just looking up. No, I'm sorry. It's the raptures Michael Tolkien movie from nineteen Ninety-one, and it's the tagline on to be as a telephone operator living in empty immoral life. Find God and loses him again. And it stars. Mimi Rogers, whose great in it. And David dukov navy do Coveney I could've sworn that. Peter Weller was in it. But maybe I'm wrong, James gross who had love. He's in it. We'll Patton always useful will Patton patents. Great. He's a good villain and everything. And this is really interesting movie that I'm not describing very well. It's Michael token. You know, so it's about Hollywood. And also about religion and belief as an interesting, I am daddy page. This this Michael Tolkien? Oh, yeah. Michael tokens? He's a legend. You know, what you might have been thinking because I was going to guess this the new age which he directed. Peter Weller was in which I haven't seen that was he and Judy Davis. Right. That is what I was thinking of and Adam west, and it was also in it. That's the reason I had heard of it duty also gleaming the cube. Hello. I don't know this guys work at all except for. I'd seen changing lanes which I which I liked the player. United seeing the players so good. I thought of that as an Alton. In. But he he wrote it anyway, this is a really good movie. I highly recommend checking out the rapture really very interesting movie that calls into question issues of faith and belief because in the movie, the rapture actually happens at a point where everyone thinks women is just insane for believing that it's coming, but it actually happens. And it's it's crazy. It's a really interesting. We are interested. Good. So anyway, I wanna rapture. In revenge. Chris I've been linked to speak to you about matters of spe of Spaeth and fear at you -ality Amal ears exempt ever heard of either does that sound cool. Maybe we could find a religion called Spaeth and fear. Fear to -ality. Let's see the space fear. That's a good movie size. Or is it a terrible one. Sometimes those are close together fine line between stupid and clever. Yeah. You'd never know until you try. Yeah. Well, if it makes you feel any better if you do Google Spaeth inferior quality, it shows you results for faith and spirituality. Well that that tells me onto something thick. So if you could monetize every click every time someone makes that mistake one of the things that was interesting in the beginning of black Klansmen was we see shots from both d w Griffith's birth of a nation, which is considered he's considered the father of modern cinema. And we also see the justifiably famous. Crane shot from gone with the wind which is the shot where were were looking out over a vast field of bodies, right? And spike was talking in that talk. I was listening to about how when he was in film school. They would show birth of a nation as a purely technical masterpiece in terms of all of these things that were invented in this film, and one of the things that spike talks about is ironically, he invented cross cutting in that film, and spike was kind of laughing. He's like I do that in black Klansmen in the scene between the Harry Belafonte story, which is a true story, by the way, the story of the lynching that he's talking about is is actual thing that that I think Harry Belafonte witnessed I know Harry Belafonte is playing a character like an actual federal judge. Oh, yes. So it federal judge on Jerome visitors actualized cross cutting between that and the clan ceremony. So spike, saying, you know, when he was shown this movie at NYU film school. He wasn't giving any of the cultural context that like Becca from crooked was requesting in our vice or Burbach reviews, they were just talking about purely like this was the first time this happened in film. But he sitting there as a young black kid from Brooklyn going like what the fuck of my watching so offensive to him without any commentary about why it's portrayed the way it was portrayed. But then in this podcast. He's talking about being able to appreciate the film stuff that it spawned. But also being able to put it into the context of the time that it was released and written and the same thing with gone with the wind, and he talked about how to McDaniel who won the Academy Award. Yes. But wasn't allowed to go to the ceremony, which I didn't know I didn't know that either. Yes. It was nineteen thirty nine. I didn't look this up. I should have looked at up. But when she won best supporting actress for gone with the wind, obviously, the first African American actress to win Academy Award, but he said she wasn't allowed to attend the ceremony which again anything to do with race in America is both. Shocking. Surprising and totally not shocking enough rising. So anyway, those are the things that like Spike Lee can't approach a piece of subject matter without being informed by all of this stuff. And when you listen to him talk, he's a black man. But what he is kind of first and foremost is a film nerd when you listen to talk about movies his favorite movies. He's a hard core film nerd. Yep. It'll end when you talk about the birth of nation being in school. I don't know if you're at the anecdote, you know, his short film that he made almost. Yeah. To get thrown out of film school. And it was in response. It was about birth of a nation in sort of in response to the right say young black filmmaker gets hired to remake Bertha nation or studio because that can be a tough thing to do. I would think when something touches yours. So personally to be able to have enough distance to look at intellectually in a way to deconstruct to make a film about it. And then all of these years later in black klansman to us, not only the film techn-. Leaks. Yes. That made it so important against against itself. I think is wonderful. And I it becomes interesting to know more about a filmmaker himself or herself disorder have some context into sort of see those personal threads. Volk casting crews brought to you by out of Jack's mind. 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But anyway, one thing I love about spike is when he listening talk, he's just like an emotional guy. He's very like he speaks very slowly he speaks very in a measured way. But kind of like me he has a lot of sort of emotional irrational takes on things that I appreciate you. So like when he's talking about something you can hear him thinking of the pull politics thing, he should say. And then he can't he has just tell it like it is in a great way. Yeah. It makes me laugh I listened to talk. He'll be asked like a pointed question about Trump or something, and you can hear him kind of go like, and then he's like if you have children, if you have grandchildren, if you if you think you might have grandchildren some point in the future. Got to get rid of this guy. Man can't have this guy in the office again. Like, he just has these hilarious takes about politics and things that are so on point and the way that he kinda ties this movie in into Charlottesville Trump. It's that stuff. That's like Trump is so clownish that it's easy to think about the Trump Tower staircase presidential announcement moment when he famously said that Mexicans coming across the border were rapists and drug dealers when Mexico sends his people they're not sending their best. They're not sending you then sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems that bring in drugs, they bring in crime, their rapists. It's easy to kind of like put that into this easier to carry bundle on our back. That's like oh Trump is so insane. And crazy and says terrible things. But like when you hear spy talk about it. You're reminded how damaging and how plugged in to the racist history of the founding of America that comment is and that that current not only is still present in our culture. But are very president is the embodiment of something like what occurred in Charlottesville, rather than repudiate that he embraced that side of it and said, there were good people on that side when the people on that side are shown chanting, anti Jewish slogans. And I thought I don't know why found kinda surprising when he really had that picture of the woman who was killed in the car accident in Charlottesville other higher Heather higher and made a point in podcast, which was recorded the same day year later of her death. That's when he was talking to goes in about this movie in the summer whenever they whenever the movie was released, and he kinda put her in the center of this thing as a victim of this stuff. And a white victim at that. So even though as I watched the movie there's times it kind of drags a little or feels like maybe we're meandering bit. The plot is not entirely an engine that moves like ABCD, it's a little bit more amorphous than that. Even though that felt the case sometimes the scenes and the performances were crackling with that, Spike, Lee voice. And I just again having watched green book last week. I found myself going this is cleansing to to listen to this truth come through with this acid wit, and it's not heavy handed because the humor that he still imbues infuses it with is present, you know. And that's something that I just appreciate in his filmmaking even the points where it is heavy handed. It all seems of a piece because I think the driving force not the plot. It's the questions that he's bringing up ES up so many many, and he is making no attempt to answer them, for example, when Robert John Berks. Character Neil's like not only end this operation ES shredded all good things have to come to an end what does that budget cuts? And when the deception last night, I wish I had a choice, but my answer tied with this inflation size. They're no longer appears to be any credible threats. Sounds like we did to Jack bad legacy leave and now. I need you Ron stallworth to destroy all evidence of this investigation. What we prefer that the public? Never know about this investigation cease all further contact with the Ku Klux Klan, effective immediately. There's no reason given, but it doesn't actually goes against what boots Riley was trying to say. I mean, isn't the point that he is trying to say, okay. That was good work. Let's just pretend it never happened. I mean, it's what you choose to look at in the air. But to my mind, the fact that happened, and it didn't bother me that there was no real reason, given it's just when the surrealism of being a black man in this situation. The rules are always going to make sense that things will change and you have to constantly be pivoting and being ready for another indignity. Another difficulty that to me seem what that was about as opposed to a plot hole that same character who was excited to arrest. The racist cop five minutes before then arresting the racist cop. Isn't it? The last thing that happens in the movie before the shuts the whole thing. They're shutting down then. And actually, the very very end. He and Patrice are back together. Yeah. And again through part of me, that's like gosh, you really had been lying to her a lot. But you'll save the Cup, man. And but then they get a knock on the door. And they look out the window to see across burning in the distance. All right. That's the lashing into my mind. Go into the Charlottesville stuff. I yes. Yes. But as far as the action goes, I thought that was a very pointed ending of whatever victory. He might have had whatever. Yes, progress they might have made. You can't be too comfortable because this is ever-present Felix's dead spoiler and dad in jail, but dance flaming cross will still pop up. It's a rebuke to what chief bridges tries to do in closing down the investigation and saying, okay, we're done with that. It's over congratulations. We wiped the clan out of Colorado city, or whatever. Yeah. Like the colors. I like the seventies nece close. Well, that was another thing they put it in a very definite point in time. Where get one of the criticisms was that the true events as much as they are true happened much later than the time that they put. But again, this is one of those unlike most of the bay senators we've talked about this. Is one where I do feel like, and maybe it's because I like, Spike Lee as a director, and I like his style and his he is so present in what he makes that it doesn't feel when they talk about it being based on a true story. It's like, but it's also a Spike Lee movie. So I know over the filtered through that. But this is where I think the compromises in changes. I think were to affect I think it does come to such an important and complicated point at the end. Yeah. Unlike some of the other things where I think the changes are just make it cleaner and meter. Yeah. You know, it's in the context of what we're living through it's a necessary and really good moving. And I thought that the performances all had something that maybe some of the writing did. No, he's have some point in the middle part. You're kinda like where we going with this and some of the more, frankly, some of the more like plot base stuff would have been a little more welcome in places. If we really just had the mechanics of a plot from twenty two point be because some of the stuff was kind of confusing. This bomb plan B plan. A and the the black activists. I mean, there's a lot going on. But listen, it's a book end if you're gonna watch green book, watch black clansmen, and you'll say you're gonna end up in the middle. But you'll have a corrective I'll tell you. He's different approaches to race in America. That's what Peter fairly is allowed to have here to people both taking source material that involves an African American experience and bringing to the screen and one filmmaker brings to the screen and in doing so turns it into the story of the white person in the movie in spike Lee's movie. It's never Adam drivers story. It's never David dukes story who by the way, I thought grace did a really good job is David Duke. I was interested in his weird David Duke who was not easily dismissed he both played him for laughs. But also had a kind of a can't believe about to use this word in relation to toe for grace gravitas. Oh. Has been used to refer to him. I think even he would be. Oh, I thought he did have a little weight an import behind his his characterization of David Duke on quite well, thank you. What can I do for I desperately want to participate in my chapters honorary events, but I can't until I received my membership card. Of course, it's something I can help you with great who am I speaking with David Duke? Did you say your name was David Duke last time, I checked grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan that that David Duke. Yes. That grand wizard and national director. Yeah, I'm honored to be speaking with you, sir. Afraid to say, I consider you a true white American hero. Is there any other kind? No, sir. Just talking to true white American men. Now about that membership card. Yeah. I understand the situation. We've had some administrative problems here. It's causes. A little bit of backlog. Tell you what I'm gonna see too personally that you membership card is processed approved and sent out today has that's out. Thank you, sir. I can't express to you. How much this means to me? Ron please pleasures all mine he made him dangerously funny. Yeah. I think I think I agree. Because like I think part of the joke was how like shitty his office was boring and all looked, but then there Ramon something, particularly when the huckster when he's always been a huckster, David Duke of the worst kind like, even when you see him quoted for real at the end of the movie with his plastic surgery face and his attempt to insert himself into the Charlottesville stuff. He still the huckster that he always was I thought they did a really good job of putting him in that office when when Ron calls and his can't get his he needs his needs. This is this is the Spike Lee thing, you gotta have the card to do the cross burning. Like, you can't go to the cross brand of you. You have to have your membership card. And I think it's such a Spike Lee thing to go down the rabbit hole of the minutia of like me and my card hasn't arrived because David Duke is like not really on top of this not an organization, right? And he's like, yes, we've had some real ups with our paperwork lately. Hilarious. Yeah. Was when Ron stallworth becomes strangely. Just sort of accept it. 'cause movie becomes the bodyguard specifically for David Duke. Yes. And the interactions between them I did see like you said some of the gravitas or menace that this could have had when he actually was not just a paper pusher not hanging out with the bunch of. Can we say cracker hanging out with crackers? But when he actually was dealing with a black man, you could see like genuine cold hatred. And you know, it's funny spike says that David Duke called Ron stallworth when this movie was about to be released and had a conversation. And he said spike didn't know if David Duke had seen the movie yet. But he was like, of course, he's going to see he's a prominent character. Like, you're going to see it whatever you say. But he told he told run solar that he saw and liked Malcolm X. He said that I saw Malcolm X really liked it and run with it was like what he's like. Yeah. We we wanted the same thing. And spikes? I think David only watch the first hour of the movie heating, the see where Malcolm change to by the end. So I don't think he watched all three hour movie. Another interesting thing, that's bike mentioned. And it was very pointed. Dimension was that originally this movie was going to be Jordan peels to direct Jordan pills? A producer of the movie. But that Jordan Peele spike says in this interview was like he didn't have to call me. He didn't have to call me an offer me the opportunity to direct this. But he did I thought that was interesting to it's sort of in Jordan Peele, having a pretty insanely great year and a half or two years as a filmmaker with some interesting projects to come out. Yeah. Can't wait for twilight zone. Hello. Are you site for that? I'm very cypher. I'm also site for us. Have you seen the trailer for that is? Is it good? Is it good? Yeah. It looks really good. And yet the only reason I was sort of a little bit less about throws because they haven't released any footage trailers and footage trailer. Is it like a tone? Oh, I thought you meant for sorry for us. The trailer looks awesome and with twilight zone, it's still apps still abstract. Hope he's doing the voice over obese doing the rod sterling voiceover for the twilight zone. I hope so too. Hello. Well, maybe maybe. So yeah. Those were my thoughts. Well, Chris if you have nothing else to say about black clansmen, we will move onto. Hey nines. This is the thing that I was going to think about saying, I wasn't sure if people are gonna have heard it already. But they they will have heard it in the episode that is now live even though we're now recording. So again in the time space continuum in the challenge mathematics of Jason silos mind. It's four twelve this donor code for twelve twenty four okay. I'm stone. Or so I don't know those insiders things like you do. With your edibles in your Chem connects coffee maker. Oils. Anyway, smoke out of this French working in the episode that has just been released thirteen now thirteen minutes ago. It's now four thirteen we asked of Matt the engineer. If he had played the guitar line, which which signals the. Ranson raise Portland's raves. Yeah. And you guessed that he did not play that guitar portion. And I said, no, I don't think so I think Matt plugged his axe into the board and ripped off some tasty cores, and I don't wanna take victory lap around the studio. But I just wanna say as everyone now knows. I was right. It's toward the end. So if they're listening at double time, maybe they would know at this point speaking of that people do that apparently people listen to podcasts on double time mean come on people break. I do I do why do half to but one and a half. Why I think everybody seems Whittier I wonder what sounds like right now from the for the next section of our conversation, please Matt play. One halftime what does it sound? Like, it sounds a little bit faster. And so you get more information. I think this is a millennial affiliation of our culture, which by the way, it's a problem. We've been having for any every new community complains that same thing. I saw today's like people are more people are listening to podcasts at two times speed. And you know, what people just stop? Okay, just stop that leads me to my headlines. Chris great. Okay. I don't know. Do you wanna get into talking about the academy where nominations? Not really, but we can. Well, geez with that. I guess fine. Well, I mean yesterday you were too busy on Tuesday to record what I wanted to record. Which was like I was up early to watch the nominations, which I think is exciting. I think sets the stage for granted the Oscars any awards are inherently stupid and not at all designed to actually reward. What might or might not be the best of anything is? How do you really gauge your judge that you listen to what I think since they don't ask me. It's invalid. However, my point exactly what I was going to get the the pageantry of it, all and the upper down nature of it. And the business aspect of it is interesting to me because I do think movies sink or swim based on on what happens here. And I think a couple of interesting things a couple of movies that I think had a little life pumped back into them black Lanzmann as we've talked about them Melissa McCarthy, and Richard E grant both nominated for can you ever forgive me which had been kind of forgotten in the previous award shows. But man, you can't get rid of Glenn Close. I mean you. It's I don't know. This must be some performance. Visit. Every week. I whip saw back and forth between I have to obviously see this movie. But if it's not amazing I'm going to be like even more angry about it than I irrationally already. That's even possible. So next week. We'll be talking about the wife with one category. That I wanted to talk about was best actor best lead actor haven't heard of it Christian bale for vice Bradley Cooper for a star is born Willem Dafoe for at eternity gate Rummy Malik for rhapsody via Mortensen for green book, and I'm laughing. There's only one that I haven't seen and that's the one that I want to win which is the Willem Dafoe one. I haven't seen that even with him to fill wasn't a movie. Yeah. Isn't he Vincent Van Gogh? Exactly. Yeah. And it's directed by Julian Schnabel. Do you not like Julian Schnabel's movies? Did you not love the diving bell and the butterfly it? What about Basquiat? Didn't it? Some other some other ones before nightfall is with the motorcycles and fighting around in the writing around Cuba. Well, I think it's a in Cuba. But in a prison, I'm pretty sure there's a motorcycle riding scene. I don't. Yeah. That's the one with what's his name your hobby are Bardem, right? No, wait. Yes, falls. Does. He rides a motorcycle. I think he's in prison the whole time using of Gael Garcia Bernal who rides a motorcycle as shake shake of ARA in what the young check of our story, or whatever it's called evening this to that's the Steven Soderbergh old Jake Vars story that I saw Julian Schnabel did not direct that I'm pretty sure there's a scene where Gael Garcia Bernal and. What's his name from country for old men? Have you have you ever damn all's ride motorcycle together in Cuba? Yeah. Daylight Glover's or something could be. Yeah. In the movie, isn't it a story of forbidden love? I'm not sure for time with Chaim about. Oh, no. We're talking about the before nightfall. I haven't seen it. You just Julian Schnabel directed. Let's see guy. L Chrissy Bernal in this. He's not in before nightfall. Maybe think of something else. I think give voice. Lupin the squall going back to original point this Willem Dafoe try to pull off a French accent? Like, I just can't imagine that the New York. Knicks doesn't come through in whatever accent work. He's doing in that he's also from Wisconsin. Van Gogh Willem Dafoe go Van Gogh to fo has such a New York accent, doesn't he will really remember. That I think of having a New York accent. I mean when we did light sleeper, which people haven't again space time continuum mad. Give me a little cool space time continuum sound effect here. Something is in zither. Or what's hammered dulcimer? No, no, not a hammered dulcimer is not believe voting circle out loud Thurman, Thurman that. Yes. Something in airman hammered dulcimer. No when we did light sleeper. Yes. He so New York. He's such a he's such a quintessential New York. I don't care where he's from. He's a New Yorker. I think you do a French accent? If Vincent Van Gogh were French I want to look up other Julian Schnabel, films motorcycle diaries. I think that's what I'm thinking. Okay. It's Julian Schnabel film, isn't it? That's why Walter sell us. Walter salad. Yeah. I think while they're Sally is also a painter is really I think so. Oh, no. He's a Brazilian filmmaker. Right. He yes, we sure the internet has never a before. Chris Black Panthers. The first superhero movie nominated for best picture exciting. Haven't seen it. You haven't seen it? No. I got a screener as good. Yeah. Here's a hot take for you. Chris. I think that Spiderman into the spider verse should have been nominated in a screenplay category. And if we're picking a superhero movie to be nominated for best picture, I would put that in there as as as far as original filmmaking goes, I mean, it's hard to think of anything as a regional as Spiderman into the spider verse. I mean, I can't argue with another big story the big story, but a lot of people were clamoring because Bradley Cooper wasn't nominated for best director. Yes. Even though the SARS born was nominated for best picture. Yes. And of course, there's a very simple answer. And it's twofold, the first part of the two part answer is there's an unspoken tradit-. Listen, I I'm directors don't get nominated for best director. That's just that's just a thought of that. The second part is part of the first part. So in kademi were nominations work. As follows in the academy. You have directors producers actors screenwriters cinematographers editors right composers. The nominations are are derived through each separate feifdom voting for who the nominees are in their category. Because of that if you think about who the academy is made up of. You got some grizzled old white guy who probably hasn't directed movie since nineteen seventy two he sitting there he gets his ballot. These I've owned for some pretty boy actor who thinks he's a director. He's going to think like cinematographer directed the movie Bradley was along for the ride. So I think any any jobs got a bit of some shot. So you're not gonna get any loves a first time director, which is interesting counterpoint to Spike Lee who has before thirty five years of making films making some of the most important American movies of his time never being nominated getting a nomination on the other side of that. So those are both kind of part of the same continuum. I think not to overuse the word continuum Rome, of course, and the favorite both lead films with ten nominations each. A star is born in vice with eight nine. Chris I know eight nominations for vice. I mean, what's the criteria? Chris. I get Christian bale get it. Again, it understand that we live in a time where extreme weight gain or loss is deemed acting. Well, I mean that's been that's been a while. Now, the I know, but it's just come on. And also. Emily blunt in get nominated for Mary Poppins. I'm sorry. I'm still honking. I'm Mary Poppins. Have you seen it yet? I wanna see it when we're ready to record on it. Okay. I'll do it right now. Well, let's see I'm not going to do next seen it. I don't think I'm going to have any other entertainment headlines for you. Unless you have anything in the headlines section will to move onto Renton, and re this this I was thinking of is my rave, but it also counts as a headline. It's about a project called steal away, which is the next Robbie debris from the yacht. Rock classic. No, why don't we steal away? Now, we play a little that. Because we're commenting on how great asong steel is by Robbie free. Thank you. Hopefully that music gets used in this project, which I'm very excited the jukebox musical about Robbie DuPree. Please tell me that's what it is the rock jukebox. How huge would that be on Broadway? What did you know, what yacht rock is is that like Jimmy Buffett? Skift rock. It's not a yacht. No, it's not Jimmy Buffett. Are you serious right now? I think I've ever person. No, yeah. No. That's weird to me. Yacht rock is a genus of music typically recorded from the seventies to the eighties. It can encompass certain hall notes tunes. The band Brosio all sorts of cheesy. But technically proficient music about usually like a nineteen seventies early eighties version of making love it's nineteen seventy nine or nineteen eighty-two you're on your yacht. If you're you're kind of coke out there like you had too, much rum. Everything is a mess. But like the wind is blowing through your hair, and you've got some of this music playing on your hi fi. Right. Because that's what you listen to yacht rock on. And that's that's what it's about. I'm talking Michael McDonald? Right. Talking the eagles, you know. Mcdonnell never gonna give you up. No that's fucking. That's not gas. Rick rolling. Sorry. Who's my Hobo like Rosanna? That's yacht. Rock. Okay. What a fool believes yacht rock. Okay. Down boss gags lowdown. No Moses missing Matt play the intro to BAAs Skaggs lowdown. And Chris tell me this does not get you moving. That's what I'm talking about Kris. Okay. All right. So anyway, I got on this. What was I talking about? I was trying to tell me something. Yeah. This is okay. Tell me about Don. Donnay Charles Burnett. The filmmaker who made Sheller of sheep you sleep with angers attached to direct steal away at Amazon studios. Steal away at us with the daring theft and escape of Robert Smalls, a slave in eighteen sixty two Charleston who stole a paddle wheel. Steamer sounds kind of diametrically opposed. The Robbie DuPree puppies got into that was like, no, no, no. We are definitely talking about that. There is a boat of there is a. There is about that's true. But let's enter news headline, and then my rave, we'll just be the work of Charles Burnett in general, if you've never seen killer of sheep killer of sheep only release in two thousand seven set true. Yeah. 'cause they couldn't clear the music that was used in Steven Soderbergh had seen it floating around. He was like this movie is so wonderful. We needed to be seen and he helped centers doughnuts. Release in two thousand seven showed a bird has an interesting movie coming out to a sports movie. I was like we know when you see like these Soderbergh movie headlines, they're always like Steven Soderbergh to direct film shot from inside a body during surgery, you're like what? High flying bird. It's yeah. It's premiering at slam dance. I'll confess I don't love all of Steven Soderbergh's movies Soderbergh. I am such a huge fan of just how he's such a just do it kind of guy and trying new things. They're just information about it. It's it's written by moonlights Terrell Alvin mccranie being released in select theaters on Netflix on February eighth high flying bird is attuned to the current sports zeitgeist if you want to know what the next half decade of sports might look like high flying bird gives you a pretty solid sketch. It stars Andre Holland as Dina powerful agent for NBA players you stuck in the middle of. Yes. And NBA lockout. He has a hotshot rookie client who's thirsting to get games going into finally get paid. But it's not a Jerry Maguire story about an agent in the player learning lessons and growing and having money shown to them in many ways, it's another Soderbergh heist movie with dean in the George Clooney role instead robbing a casino. He's trying to work within the sports business to stealthily bring it all down sounds kind of cool. And again, you're like Where'd it sorta? Aberg get into that. Yes. Great. All right, everybody. Well, tune in next week where I have no idea what it's gonna be. What are we gonna do your rant lit about? The wife really makes Mona do that. But. But until next week, but I don't have it. So I mean, yeah, maybe next week's time to release the mule and make some of our older clientele. Happy. I know why no one guy. Exactly one guy's gonna be looking forward to that. Okay. That's all you got. Did you hear any of that? When we get home. I'm going to sit you when your sister down. And I'm going to tell you. Everything. Thanks for listening to full cast and crew just wanted to remind everyone to subscribe, if you haven't already see you'll get a new episode every Thursday, and we'd love to hear from you. So Email us at full cast and crew pod at g mail dot com. Or you can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at at full cast and crew or find us on Facebook.
"Everybody around me sick again. Everybody in my house. Jerry's got the fluid. LLC is the flu yesterday he which is in the air flow we got tested. He's got influence as just just been here yesterday with the Dallas or he's got influence. Yes yesterday I'm giving them credit because you you stay outside the door not coming in early for his update he goes. I'm not feeling today. I'm just GONNA stay. Wait three guys me. Watch out there whittled with the flu. The flu is coursing scorching through his buddies about it unbelievable. Did you wash your hands. Wash my hands of hands to your facing. You have no idea that precautions that I'm taking at this point but I cannot believe that Jerry has got the flu so you feel better. Jerry Lennon's no you got influenza. You've you gotta do what I did. Just stay home crying. Stayed Home Today. Why you think you should have stayed home yesterday? I know it would have been a nice day to stay home. Then I get in here and I were given even way. Steely Dan tickets in promoting Rick Wolf. I don't know what the Hell is places anymore. What do you mean I mean I just heard nor ID? We're giving away tickets. The bands that were popular in the seventies seventies. And then I just heard in an a time out you know this is like eight just I mean this is like my wheelhouse. I'm so why can't I enjoy like like a concert. Never give anything away. That's like something that was popular forty years ago. And then I just I just heard the ID that the fans of Rick Wolf. We have a special Rick Wolf show on Thursday night where he talks about the future of youth sports like what. What do you mean say programming? Yeah seriously have you. What was the last time we were in the idea of promoting this all the time? I hear it every every promoting coating specific show. If you WANNA do I dis you do. ID's and go promote the show few wouldn't preface the ticket giveaways as come see the surviving members. That's the problem you're like billy eyelash illegal making faces at the Oscars and all this other stuff. Like what what is is he doing here. Why is he not like this is what you're doing push face? I'm not making a push ness about steely Dan. Stevie winwood like right in my wheel. I understand that it is but I'm telling you we have what we have to do. What you gotta mix it up a little bit? I give away tickets. I didn't even know we're still alive. Four tied into the into Jones Beach Theater come on you know that for years. Come see Tchaikovsky Performance. What's I mean no yeah no? You're unbelievable you really are. I mean what happened to you. Do your son. You're giving away your because Jerry's flu bug Dr Jerry. Jerry was shedding yesterday sharing to you took place. I couldn't give to care. Yeah he can't he doesn't in care and guess what he shed his flew all over the place now if you and I get it. I'm going to be ticked. No I know you kidding me I I had like the norovirus oral virus a virus or my doctor told me that flew be showing stomach involvement so that probably I'm assuming and I want from what Friday to Tuesday which was four days and then I came in Tuesday and then we went down to the then we went down out to super bowl that day right and guys mass the fly with me. That's because you were hanging out. I use that massive today by the way all right what I put that in ninety five on God so because I ended up going to the pediatrician with supreme honor birthday because she starts getting sick like really sick and wheezing. Yeah so gina ends up sick too so I'm in the car with the two of them in the back seat driving. Sabrina and Gina to the pediatrician with the end. Ninety five mask on so people people probably red light thinking what the Hell is wrong with this guy but you know how it is you got a two year old. Didn't know how to cover their mouths. I keep telling her cover your mouth and she'll do it but then when she coughs she forgets to do so like a cat. She does that call for the tongue out so much doesn't know what she's doing. I'm stuck in this car so I'm going to do is put the mask on and then I washed my hands in that doctor's office. I'm not even know if I'm allowed to use the doctor sick but I go over that Dr Singh. No less describe yes. I was like I was going to perform an appendectomy. Like that's what I was doing. Doing hopping down the arms and everything and then the whole hand sanitizer. So we'll see we'll see how it goes. I mean I feel like at this point. I'm a sitting duck when I found out that Jerry had the flu because he said in the email. I don't know if you're on email now I wasn't. I'm out with the flu and I'd like I feel like people always say the flu. It's not the flu when they haven't gotten tested for the flu because it sound the word on the hearing that the test for the flu this year is in accurate as it has been impasse. At least that's what I've been told a really. Yes so you tell me. There's FECTA results which I don't know if they know or not but he said canoes say he got tested. He said he got tested swab and he did influence. You got diet of it all right well if they tested them and they say he has. That's different store. I think there are some people that are sick that Koga tested that that it doesn't come back as has the flu virus. They have some other. Those Fake News said Fake News Sad on Jerry's influenza now but the flus around there's no question about it. Yeah now CEELO's over there and CEELO's got an immune system that's like the stone worst. He's got like a basically it's a mesh immune system like and he's sitting on he's daunted he at least wiped Jerry's desolate prestige. Right now are on that whole household is GonNa get washed out. He did not he goes. I'm exposed to all sorts of germs. Kerak didn't care got two kids at home. It's just going to be a flat out mess. His wife has no idea. Thanks Jack appreciate that you're healthy. You're okay good good all right. Thank you Jackie. Yeah so like see how you just took that coffee randomly. You don't know who made that coffee downstairs. Were they coughing shedding down there at starbucks. No Jacket said there were. Everybody was fine. Listen I've gotten to a point of obsession with this. I can't go that far. I'm going to stop drinking. You know what it is you just you just got to get the flu in call today. Call the tax. That's what I thought. That's what I said before it was like at this point. I kinda just want corona viruses to get get over is. So here's the deal so today is what what today is Tuesday February. Eleven thousand twenty. So Jerry started the temp. He started feeling bad on the tents. Ladder the timeline. Because so. What's the timeline here? Al And Jerry in the influenza. When did he go get tested by the way? He's going to probably kill me for this. I I didn't mean to reveal that you know you said you this morning you're getting Kipah laws right this morning when you were getting makeup and he said Oh Jerry said he's got the flu but everyone says they have a flu and I said Oh he was tested because he I thought that's what he said but my point is that he started feeling bad yesterday actually he was feeling bad last week. Remember I gotta be. Iv Right said he he had the start of the flu. Strain a start of so maybe not technically start start of the flu. The start of the Tamiflu. I'm sure they gave him something Tamiflu. I'm sure may may be able to like distorted but you still gotta started going to do it. He says says the doctor says he caught it early enough to take the medication. He's taking the time flow. Murray started feeling bad last week that you gave me. I got it. Because he wasn't feeling good but then he had that basketball game on Saturday. Have game on Saturday and Sunday. And guess what he's Got Tomorrow Rutgers Game Eh. Doesn't he in Columbus Hall. Now he's not going he's GonNa get on that charter he's GonNa get teams the greatest team that they've had in like one hundred it years air take down Jerry's going to wipe them all out or he'll just take an uber to call him coach Paiko allowing him to come Jerry. Stay home I'll tell Ahah right now. Like biggs give us. Let's all right. Let's call slip it right and Chris Carlin hair down a little bit more weight this time. Yeah I I think there's no way I mean. Imagine that like all the people who talk what happened rutgers man things were going so well until that game against Ohio state and it's almost like all of them. Were sick like who knows what happened to that team. They're on their way to tournament bid and they just fell apart. What the hell happened? Yes so I don't know I feel bad because Jerry's got a lot. It's a lot lot on his plate and he's trying to get healthy but you can't walk in here with influenza you want and everybody else suck it. I'm saying so yesterday I was talking about Jerry and his back Jack. Golfing body is back now. Well Yeah because I told my I'd get them. Here's the deal I'm going to get him. Fifteen sessions golf body. And they're going to. They're going to work with his back because they have a physical therapist over there. They also have a chiropractor. And it's all about getting back into golf shape fifteen like you know meeting program program to help somebody that. Has You know minor back issues now. What's the name of this place often bought okay? And it's unbelievable awesome. Yeah but I told them I'd get them. I didn't know they had this. But they have a fifteen session. Okay get your get your body back in shape jolly straight. Yeah right and in his back has been bothering but now we're going to have to start this thing later because he's got the floor and send them over. There was not everybody. Golfing bodies getting wiped out right. Collateral damage as you like to say yes one of my favorite things so these three things that we heard yesterday. Okay that that could happen might happen. Maybe unlikely maybe likely we heard yesterday. Which one do you want to happen the most already? I'll give you the three one. Tom Brady the cowboys now. The Michael Irvin is on top of it. Even though you were down in Miami Tom Brady. The cowboys is one to the fourteen in teams in the playoffs and Major League baseball seven in both leagues and that new format that rob Manfred put out there. Where though the top seeds get the pick where they play in the play all reality reality? TV Yeah Okay. The second one in the third one Jeff. Van Gundy is the Knicks head. Coach you can pick one of those to actually speak into reality as they say. Say which one would it be. Can I put them in order of your daughter and he's been TV so long. God Dang it. I'm going to say Brady to the Cowboys WanNa see that most. Wow you know why because just to go be amazingly interesting plus yes it would also confirm when I said about a month ago. You know why all of a sudden becomes a big deal because you know Michael Irvin is drinking vodka soda with somebody and all of a sudden says you know. I could see that happening now all of a sudden it becomes a huge story. I I ask Jerry Right here in studio actually before we went down it was the week before we went down. And said how would you feel about about Tom. Brady being your quarterback down in Dallas and he goes. It'd be great now. I know he didn't want he didn't want it. He wanted he wanted to stay with tack. So this this whole thing you know like I said before. It could be a ploy by a number of teams Tampa Bay and Tennessee and Dallas to to minimize the contract demands from their present quarterbacks. I'd ask what is it exactly what this is but that's what that could be. But I I I heard that towards the end of the year at the at the at the NFL today. Isn't this classic Jerry Jones Chum. That's what it feels like. Okay so I. I don't think Jerry Jones or Stephen Jones told Michael Irvin when he had a I can't even believe he's drinking with all the problems that he's had he still drinking. Yeah basically said you know I got I got a cocaine problem. Yeah he did right and he's still drinking and hanging out. I guess I guess it's okay that you can. You can drink and you you go down that road that other Odeon but who knows what he was hearing or when he said it but now all of a sudden it made it like all of a sudden legit right because you would. I would think that Michael Orvin is on that inner circle I think to me. It's Jaume out there. They want people to talk about it. They want to get worried. The one is demands to come down because outside of this. Tom Tom Brady thing. What's the other leverage that the cowboys have when it comes to the quarterback now so they figure this is an opportunity all right so you actually Wanna Wanna see that? I say I personally would like to see Tom Brady retire as a patriot. Much like ally manny yet to two or three years from now. Because I think you know staying with Josh mcdaniels staying with Bill Belichick makes the most sense and it's a legacy thing and keep it there but if he decides to go somewhere else us the intriguing to places for me would be Las Vegas and would be the cowboys. Yeah those are the two places that would be amazing. I don't think he would go to Las Vegas simply because that division is going to be run by Patrick Mahomes for the next five years. Now you would think out of those three things being the Knicks guy that I am that I would vote Van Gundy as the head coach at the top of those three things. But I don't for a couple reasons. One Jeff Van Gundy in a memories. I have of him being a great coach for the Knicks. I mean I don't want anything to ruin that because I don't think that this Knicks team right now is going anywhere as presently constituted suit in Jeff Van Gundy is gonNA come here and not be given a shot you know potentially fail and that's going to go up in flames. I don't WanNa see that. I still think he he'd be able to coach a roster. That's ready be to win. Jeff Van Gundy in two years. Maybe when the Knicks got a superstar and get lucky in the draft. And they're ready to do something or do you on Tom Tippett. Oh No I don't want him either. You want John Cale Perry who also said that he's not coming to the net. Yeah I know I'd rather have out of all. Those guys are rather have Calipari I to give it a shot I just don't I dunno van Gundy to me. If the team was on the precipice abused by the way he left. I know I know I understand but I just that that one doesn't feel it just doesn't feel right to me. I'm not. I'm not ready to take from the knicks past and then put it in the Knicks present. and think that that's going to be sprinkling a magic fairy dust on the on the organization. I just don't think that's going to happen. And who knows does he really want to be a part of this. I know there were some rumors that I guess before. They hired phys his dale that he might have been interested to see really want everybody to come to the next gets a huge payday. I don't care everybody says say Thomas Larry Brown Phil Jackson. I I with probably I. If somebody went back and looked at the amount of money that Jim Dolan spent on just front office people just front office. Those people I met with them seriously back ten years I would say it's gotTa be somewhere in the neighborhood of one hundred fifty the two hundred million and all the other guys that are on the payroll like try to get Alan. Houston say something bad about Jim. Dolan John starks. Yeah those guys those guys are all the uh-huh yeah. Yeah collect a nice big checks and they're taking care of right so Waterborne Alan going to say that Word Dogs Did Bring Jeff Campaign Gandhi and what for five million a year for five years now or now. What are they gonNA give them? It's another big payday for him. You're my long the guy he left the next man he left. He was exhausted he left. Yeah I it's it's like all right I know and he was he. Maybe he's reenergized now but this is not the place to land for him right now. I don't know I just the holy on rose this thing and everything else is going to be able to attract somebody. Where's where's worldwide west in this whole meadow? It's just underground. Man They got they checks things out and goes back under. I guess it can't hurt. I like I said before anybody who takes a job and WHO's officially offered a job and then signs a contract and takes takes it. You gotta give him time to see if they actually have an impact like I said with Perry and like I said with mills said with Jackson. Okay assign them now. Let's let's see what he can do. And then the more you see the less you like I also the lasting memories. I have of Jeff Van Gundy when you talk about him. Being exhausted at the end those press conferences were. He looked like a Zombie like his is a bags under his eyes and he was Pale he was sitting there and like whatever Harry left which is falling out of his head and he was just sit there with a can of diet coke he was. We can't rebound the basketball. We gotta rebound the basketball just like basically collapsed. That's what I remember. Jeff Van Gundy the coach and then when he got into broadcasting it was like all of a sudden all this energy was back. And that's why it's hard for me to believe that. He wants to not only get back into coaching. But you do it with this organization. That sucks the life out of everybody. Who was part of it? Well you know I would. I would think that for the Nick Ban if you had been Gundy Leeann rose and borough Y west worldwide. I you know I think the Knick fan would buy into it and leased by a couple more years of patients. It's I guess it's how you would put it but you also know that the one thing about the next right now. They are loaded with all sorts of draft capital. Now what what that draft capital title means you know. Only time will tell but they do have a lot of draft capital. There is no question about that and you can say whatever you want about mills and Perry they even though they could not get durant the come here although I wouldn't have paid them. Forty one million dollars a sit and not play they have whoever is inheriting the team next next is going to inherit a much better financial situation with assets with it so now the question comes down who are or who who is going to spend those assets and how are they going to spend them. Wouldn't you feel better if you do have guys that maybe have better ties to the league or you know who knows. Maybe maybe Jeff Van Gundy you trust in his input as to who would want on his ended up getting hired I I'd I'd warm back up to it because I do. Who Love The guy and I have great memories of him but I just I? It's not time. I just don't feel like they're ready yet but I guess I mean maybe if you have the patience for once and he can sit through a couple more bed years in turn this thing into something. and He's already here and he's building that over word overused word culture and maybe maybe you got something I just. I don't know I was Jeff Van. Gundy I mean who's the last coach had had any modicum of success. So why why you know. Well how old is he. Now see in the sixties I would think gotta being sixties right. I'll be right has to be just google it right now. Just shut your pie hole over there. Jeff Van Gundy. He is a US fifty eight. So he's my age fifteen. He looks so much older than me. Yeah now now that I've seen that he's way too old to get back into the bet g like steely. Dan and Steve would have sure we'll maybe he can call in when we give those tickets away one of them real quick thing. The worst kept secret in the NFL. Philip rivers and the chargers are parting ways was was that like again thing surprising about that. He moved to Boca Raton like a month ago. Like we already knew about this H.. Who Morning Show with boomer Assias in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo as gio for a little while ago and he didn't have any left wipe vista down? I did not. There's a little late now. I have one of those things in my office. If you WANNA grab one of those for okay now when you wipe things down in the morning just the spot. You're going to sit out for the warm. I don't do that down. Oh you're just wipe for the for the voice keyboards and then Geo comes in. And does his own wife so you wipe for them. MM-HMM GIO wipes for himself. You don't wipe for yourself and you don't wipe for Jerry. Is that about Cobra. Wipe in here. I wipe down everything in here. I'm going to do an operation on some talk about wiping. Did you connect with everything. You're all set. He slapped me off to another guy he did. Okay he is the head off. Yeah I got sloughed off. You didn't get sloughed off. He's not going to do it himself. He's the boss. He's the owner. Yeah I understand that sometimes you get clients technician on it. No no talk talk. I'm kidding it's all good. Yeah we gotta we gotta work that thing. Yesterday ended up being a hectic day. Yeah so when things calmed down a little bit right some more health and inside the body household than I will be going full bore with the brand new toilet with the day that goes front to back more health inside the jeanine yesterday everybody got l.. It's up for me except for me somehow. Knock on last year's surrounded She's got a foot issue now. She's walking around with a walking boot. How'd the dogs The dogs are fire. It's like old. But they're firing firm nationally over there for birthday what she was going. Yeah Yeah Ashi sharing for the germ free you could take opening. Wipe your stuff down and stuff like that. Where gloves and everything yeah yeah? We're at the pediatrician. Yesterday yesterday on her birthday she doesn't understand how many people are. At the pediatrician. mccotter was little looked like a tired busload was like going to the circus. Doctors be we make tons of dough right now right. You think I guess who knows but everybody sick. I've heard these positive flu tests winner have been a little as you were saying into so you. Don't listen to the show out there at all. Well thought that I don't want to have headphones on preparing all the audio that we're going to hear during the update wants go ahead and go to the audio than you talk through this whole segment of the house. The pediatrician not always sick. Yeah understand that super-duper like immunity must have those really good masks. That were sold out right. No did not have a mask yesterday but she did wash your hands stated a Satan distance in remember taking the kids to our pediatrician. Dr Gilbert Dick Really Quick Guild Dick and he's a great guy great dude food right. Kids always had strep throat at one hundred percent strep throat. We'll bring is got strep throat. Didn't even check culture. Sure they do eventually. They do just like he's been around for so long he never everybody loves dick he he was never sick and there were kids kids with runny noses and it's not all over the place and people screaming and yelling and coughing and sneezing bring them to dick run. I Love Dick Bring him to kill Dick in and basically everybody had strep throat. Wow now did you ever transmitted illness onto teammates. I'm sure yes so. You infected an entire tire locker room at some point. I'm sure that somewhere along the line either. I was infected or are they gonNA. Every team goes through like flu like symptoms. How many times? How's it going home? They keep you away stay. Well sometimes. Flu like symptoms could be also from party and then of course we're or no it's who the guy is and how long that flu like symptoms is GonNa last all right see force right so spring training workouts. Obviously right around the corner pitchers and catchers for the mets and Yankees hitting the field tomorrow and as we get ready for the new season major league. Baseball reportedly mulling these major changes to the postseason format which would begin in two thousand twenty two among the highlights. He would go from ten to fourteen teams for the playoffs. Three Division winners four wildcard teams now per league and the team with the best record in each league at the buy into the division in series remaining division winners get to choose their opponent for the wild card round and some sort of prime time. TV event. which would i? I don't know personally. I think that's kind of interesting if I I know. The baseball traditionalists were ripping their traditional. I think it's great having baseball. Traditionalists didn't like the initial wildcard. Either I get Bob Bob Costas on the line. Let him determine. He's Joe Haden. I WANNA go back to the world series no playoffs. That's got a right all. You gotta run it by him to make sure it's okay. Yeah I mean I to me when when people say that this water down the regular season I think is the exact opposite I think it breathes life into the regular season because there's so many other markets that will be involved that weren't otherwise things ab about this one the think that they're bringing this out because of the yes. Houston thing I a distraction. I say yes point. One hundred percents easy as crazy as we can. So we can get off the Houston subs hundred percent okay and number two trevor. Bauer came out and says you know he basically ripped into rob Manfred. Who hasn't he ripped into at this point? Well South the only person on earth ripped into his himself. Yeah he's just totally does. It's just you just crushes everybody. Let's get on athletes for not telling you you know what they feel. And we're we're getting a guy is telling you what he feels. Yeah I mean I just don't think that was a little bit of a strong call. Michener a joke. Yeah I know it's a strong reaction to like an idea that was floated out there taking make more money by more teams going to the play offs. And then you could use that as a leverage for your next contract. Why would you want that right? That's why I'm I'm all in favor of expanding the NFL playoffs by adding two more teams and only having one team have by just like what Major League baseball is trying to do here right now instead of two teams having a by I love him another playoff game. I'm thinking about that as I feel like there's like the way that the NFL playoff all right now and there's so many teams involved already. I feel like it's not as necessary whereas in baseball if that the baseball regular season is so many teams are law right there were the NFL. I feel like there's of of course there's those teams that stink that we know we're going to think that are in it but I still feel like there's a lot of markets that are involved all the way up to week seven hundred in the hunt. Yeah we need. We don't need it in the. NFL and baseball needs a little. I would if they did this. I would like them to shorten the regular season by a week or two. That ain't happening. But that's what I best sure and I think the reason I liked the what they're proposing because you've just we're resigned to the fact that all these leaks are looking at the. NBA is trying to is looking at reducing the regular season load from eighty two to seventy eight tournament at midseason tournament Biljana. What the hell? That's what I like the idea of you know you gotTa essentially call out your opponents. I want this team. Yeah but don't you think don't you think that internally these leagues are all learning something about themselves. They're looking at trends and they're watching attendance earnings figures and they're hearing complaints from fans and things of that nature that maybe you know obviously not. Maybe we don't see those things so they're reacting to things. They're hearing in their offices. That's their job right. So let's try to improve the game. Let's try to make it more interesting. Let's try to keep more fans engaged. And maybe who knows. Maybe maybe a team like Oakland or the raise make it to the playoffs under this new format and gives a lower left. Pay Team a chance to make the playoffs a little bit more consistently each and every year. Yeah big statement from Jeff Wilpon yesterday where he basically said nothing just to let you know about the whole failed. Sale would Steve Cohen. I look look at this. I love the the lead into this right. Spring Training begins on behalf of ownership. We'd like to share more information on. Why the proposed transaction has ended however due to confidentiality `confidentiality nondisclosure agreements? were unable to do so. At this time of the confidentiality NONDISCLOSURE agreements only applied to Steve Cohen. That's it right anything else you can talk about it. I don't know why it doesn't but here's the thing. So Steve Cohn already owns eight percent. That's right so you wanted to buy eighty percent of the team under the previous previous way this whole thing was laid out so now they're saying okay. That thing is null and void now. The team is truly up for sale and it doesn't require choir the five year period. If that's the case wasn't Steve Cohen. Just up the next ed in twelve percent more. And let's go yeah. Apparently things went so south with those two. That doesn't seem like a possibility. And I guess he turned off Major League Baseball and some of the other owners his tactics during this thing so he doesn't seem like a viable viable a viable candidate any longer. So that's probably why. And he's just going to sit back and hopefully somebody swoops in gives them four billion dollars for the mets a big return on his investments. I'm asking you this question. Yeah it goes back to the initial sale and how people are saying. Now this is all Jeff Wilpon fall. Jeff Wilpon Swab. It's Steve Cohn can't be approved by other Major League baseball owners. How is that the weapons fault? I don't believe that it is that part of it isn't no so then that that was fake news uh-huh it might have been. Yeah I mean all or made those fake news said make new sad. Yeah I duNNo. It's this this is one of these stories that there's so much stuff out there that I don't know what's true or not but under what you said it's not the wilpon but I don't own Manfred said in his statement at the owners rice. But who do you want to believe. Leave that up to the consumer. Jeff Bezos has got so much money. Just tell him the by. Yeah sure why. Not Care Can I flash you back to last week and then apply to something from yesterday tape. You'd like to so Jerry's familiar Edwin D as we're already down in Florida working out last week. This was the day you were out. Actually we both spoke with us and y one on one Here's here's familiar on the two thousand. Twenty outlook is the best. We'll be right around the belly if we we everybody's healthy. I think we're going to do something especially I see okay. Great very everyone can highs spring training. It's not so much about what he's saying we'll get that in a second then. Here's D.. As on his off season work with Hall of Famer Pedro Martinez Mail. He told me if I guy routine Ryan you know I gotta La Guardia Group potential. I tried to face everything what he told me. Everything going really good. So both very clear concise understandable answers right. No there's nothing it all makes sense Schori well-spoken yesterday arrives chiefs. Spring training officially underway at. Both guys are back to speaking through the translator. So I want to get to the bottom of this and find out if this is the mets are basically saying listen or Arabi all major league teams. We employ translator. When you're here as part of an official team activity he will be used because both guys yesterday? We're back to speaking the translator. And here's Familia on why. He felt the need to lose thirty pounds this winter. It was really overweight. Most seasons would be around two forty two forty five and and so I don't I never I didn't realize that I had gotten that far up in a way that far overweight. And then you've got D ask who doesn't care what role he's asked to fill or which innings he's asked to pitch the season helping not win so at least tells me to a certain inning hoping to doing that as long as the team went now. Admittedly don't know the intricacies of the player translator ends later relationship. How the teams get involved? If there's a union reasoning somewhere behind this but I dunno both guys themselves last week. Why don't we just here? They they sounded right to but you know maybe there are things that are lost in translation. You WanNa make sure that there's no mis speak or you know. Put somebody in a bad light because they may say something differently or use a different inflection or something like that get all that. It's just a week ago. When they were down there with all their mets gear on I mean it is what it is not gonNa make a criminal case out of it or anything but want to hear from these very fired up? That's all Masahiro. Tanaka said yes. Yeah yes he said through a translator he did. Okay did which the audio isn't even worth playing because it was a very quickly. Yeah Yeah I do feel so that way. They basically. He was asked for multiple questions and eventually they got w-well. CC's baths has said so they were leading him to a point where he had to agree with I don't know if he had to but it was said the astros cheated when he said yes I do take the more I read about this whole thing. They should just take the astros. Astros away from Jim Crane or she did they should just basically take the team away from him because he had to know what was going on Koa had the no I mean he skated aided by with that heavy hand in that press conference and it was like. I got just appalled by this whole thing and then put his son in his president rid of Nolan Ryan on Ryan's and son and Rob Manfred protected him. Because you know he's got to protect the owners and everything else I beat. It's that of course I agree with that. I know it's a very difficult thing to do. But there's no way Jim Crane was completely oblivious on there so Jim Crane can own a baseball team and Steve. Cohen can't apparently asked the Club by club that basically is toward shreds the integrity of the two thousand sixteen seventeen eighteen. Eighteen thousand nine seasons pointed to shreds by Code brinker. I don't think they were doing it. I don't know if they were doing it last year on. I'm not sure but if you read the Wall Street Journal article that somebody that's disgruntled. That's giving those writers the information they gave him. And that makes you believe that this thing was so deep that it had to go to the owner owner and the owner had to know they had enough take the team away from him. Let's call him you problem solve. Here's the full Tanaka quote. Yes I do feel that way in response to what Tabatha hit said. You'd never know what would have happened but at the same time you can say that might not have happened. It's kind of difficult to say so he didn't exactly go in all on on calling the astros out. Do one of the things I would do. I would take away the world series title. I would add to do anything. Yeah it does talk shows in a record book that there was a year where nobody won the world series. And why didn't they win the world's everybody already because because well everybody know he could official official. You'll get the rings back get everything back. They don't deserve it. Yeah I think that's just are. They don't deserve. I mean everybody knows it's tainted already I mean it just is it's is going to always be so you'd say something didn't happen that happened and also and also what else does it do. It also now opens the door for people people I pete rose to want to be reinstated enough and they're using and his group of people are using this as the impetus it says the why he should be reinstated. Yeah I understand. I know every single scandal. That's out there trying to get back in. But he's all I mean. This is another one of these things occur. Can I ask you a question. He's already his all his stops in all everybody understands the hit king like salt like what is the difference like rob Manfred goes goes reinstated. Aided like he's the king of the world that changes everything. Here's a question I have and I don't know the answer to this and I should know the answer this because I am a sports talk host but I don't and I'm not afraid afraid to admit when I don't know something very between what never said that go ahead go ahead. Who owns cooperstown? Does Major League Baseball baseball own cooperstown or is it separate entity no idea the great question as a separate entity why can't they put in P.. Rose if they want to is he banned from the hall of fame by Major Baseball or is he banned from the hall of fame by Cooperstown. Pete rose in the hall of fame is is. It's the baseball hall of fame interest so to baseball hall of fame. It is not the Major League Baseball Baseball Hall of fame and museum. That's why that's why can't he go in. Why does he have to? Is there. Some rule that says if he is suspended from baseball he cannot get into all fame. Perhaps perhaps there is to go to John in New Jersey on John. Hey what's going on guys up. Omar WanNA know tycoon. Cousin Brucie later really dance. He gets. No it's actually a soupy John John. I'm forty six. Yeah let's go together. Come on man I'll chill. We'll smoke marijuana out in the street and go come on some street. Yes all right very is hell Katie. What the banning of Pete Rose for Major League baseball all these selection rules for the Baseball Hall of fame were modified to prevent the induction of anyone on baseball's permanently? Ineligible list. There you have it coming up next college players get paid the morning show with boomer Esiason in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo. I don't think Tom Brady's going at the cowboys I I didn't think of when you said it. I don't think it now when when Michael Irvin said it. I just think that. That's what Jerry Jones does. There's no other leverage for the cowboys. To Knock Down Dak Prescott Salary Valerie Dak Prescott his agents know at the cowboys. Know it so this Brady thing presented an opportunity to them and said Hey. We'll bring in Tom Brady for a couple of years won't be tied into that type of money for as long as Dak wants to be paid and this'll be great. We'll dangle that in front of me we can get a discount not going to happen you see Brady and and a cowboy uniform. No I can't can't no I actually physically cannot see. I can't I just have a tough time seeing that because I can't see it. I see him in a Patriot uniform. And that's it can't seem anything else. My brain cannot compute that especially the cowboys. I had a tough time putting him in charge a uniform. I still can't really do that. You could you see Mike Bloomberg is president. Could you see that. I don't know who knows. We'll see listen the Caucasus the caucus. No this is not a Caucasus. The primary The primary is a primary Columbus was the caucus now until the primary man. Spend a billion dollars is way in as well sure. These guys guys got a lot of lot of scratch which is in my ear. He's not running in New Hampshire Eddie. He called three New Hampshire voters. Who actually voted in their little primary? He's she's GonNa blow the whole thing up man. Maybe who knows. We'll say to New Yorkers going after each other. Yeah it'd be fun definitely would be a little mike versus fat add-on nicknames. All around I saw that Mike Francesa tweeted that Joe Biden. Looks and sounds like a guy who doesn't want to be there and I was uh-huh reminds Tom in has a New Jersey. What's going on time? What's I like to consider myself a baseball traditionalist? I like the idea of expanding the playoffs. Seven teams though. I hate the idea of picking your own opponent. That seems a little little like touching the money but you know as a mess and expanding the playoffs would have helped us. It's certainly would have. Yeah I know and then I I actually. I can't take credit for this this thought. But but Sean Marash was trying to troll met fans yesterday on twitter and he goes he goes. I got all these met fans saying. How stupid this ideas? But the second that they put in this plan they'll be screaming Freeman Yellen about how great it is that the mets are in the playoffs. It's true I mean once they changed the system in your team is a part of the playoffs and you have a shot when he didn't have a shot in years. Here's pat you're in and then that's where it becomes interesting if they do allow the teams to choose their opponent. Because would you wanNA face the mets with their pitching staff right. I mean I I think one of the bottom feeders and they make it in and then you have one of the teams that could play them or play somebody who may have an injury or something like like that would play significant and then you know. Think about the whole way that that's going to be written about all you selected us the play us because you think you can beat us. Yeah I mean that there would be nothing more humiliating as a team being selected by another team because they thought they could be and then they just beat you always humility. I mean but that that would be the thing that okay so you have the advantage of picking the other team but the other team has the advantage of using that as as motivation to beat you. That'd be weird right it would. It would be strange but it'd be different. I'm not opposed at all to more. I don't I'm not fully on board with picking the opponent thing. I do think it's interesting but I think that may be taken a little bit too far but in baseball hundred percent in for adding more team. Same thing with college football. There's a couple of sports sports and playoff systems where I am all in on adding teams college. Football playoff is one of them and baseball's one of them and then the other ones I really don't think I mean obviously hockey and basketball Kennedy Hannity Moore Team Right. But I'll tell you one thing that thing about the college at the thing about hockey in the basketball is that it takes sixteen games. Yes Ben Simmons and you have to win sixteen games to win a championship. He did not know this right right so you have. You have to win sixteen games to win a championship. And that's like a season onto itself especially for hockey. You know those guys are killing each other basketball ramps it up. They put a little bit more defense. You know if if you re our Adam silver what I would do it I was I would take out the three point shot. That's what I would whole come on. I think if anything goes the other way they add the four point shot a AH move it back to make it a four point shot and don't have a three point shot and make it to the point where it is you know. What's the three point shot? Now it's about twenty seven five or something like that whatever whatever it is yeah move it back to thirty five feet for a four point shot do that. I think you also have the three point shot now. Don't have the three point I don't think corona game Mike Dantonio the genius that he is just tells us guys. Just keep hoisting threes man. There's this he's not the only one a lot of people say that but I don't think I don't believe that it's ruining game. I still think that you can shoot threes and play defense. The problem is these guys in the regular season. Don't WanNa play defense and and the regular season the regular one hundred million dollars to do nothing. Yeah well that's I mean that's something that's GonNa be really interesting as sports goes forward with these guaranteed contracts is. How much does is winning matter to these guys when everybody is getting a a really really solid chunk of change that takes care generations? They think winning matters right now to the the Golden State Warriors Win. I will say it's a real. It's a real problem this year right this year. They don't but I coach a beer. Let them sit there Karen Joy to game and then just go home quickly. Can I do think they'll be motivated. Next year when everybody's healthy to go back and try to reclaim their thrown. I do think that they're not even trying signed to this year. No they're not no. You're right but I do. You don't have a problem with that What do I care to Golden State Warriors? I got enough teams. That saw curious. Did they're most likely they're not only pick but they're not any good but your team could get the number one pick. This most likely not going to happen of course. Not but they're actually on the Knicks are winning. Some Games aims man. I mean they won four in a row before they lost the hawks. I'm trying to get to that thirty seven number so I don't have to pay snappy our I'm still holding out hope little ten game game win streak next thing you know I got something then game win streak. Oh yeah they got a four to three game win streak and a four game win streak and has ten game win streak game win streak. You got a fever over the knicks fever. Yeah Yeah it's it's it's knicks fever. It can't be cured. No I don't know I mean. Come on at this point I told you I'm done with hope. After last year I exhausted every drop of hope that I had. I squeezed out the RAG to every droplet of hope Simon Williamson Kevin Durant everything else now. Now I'm just just sitting back and however the chips may fall they fall and I'm not rooting for them to get what I know. You want Lamelo ball desperately but I mean to me Eh. Let's just let's just chill and see where it ends up. I can't wait till the BARB A- lavar ball sitting courtside screaming at every of the knick player except for his son on your Nixon son is awesome. Everybody else. As sox VIC's anarchists right. Exactly we just want the worst thing to happen every single time. I each morning. Show with with Woomera Greg Saudi boomer and Geo yesterday you brought in a can of Spaghetti O's chef for the chef a guaranteed for getty and meatball spaghetti and my offering the cannon. I got the camp from Bobby who works in the back right. And that's what Bobby was eating for breakfast yesterday morning morning. Right and then I caught him last week eating a sandwich that he put in a microwave. That was out of a cardboard package called devour devour avow our microwavable sandwich that he said somehow gets crispy in the microwave Lou but today he is back there At six twenty this morning six. Twenty a M. Okay Bob. Dwyer was eating chicken fingers and waffle fries. He is really just stepping it up. I've thought life is upside tie-down that's what it seems like he said to me. E what you what what you can when you can. That's what he said now. He lives up in Duchess County. Right correct right. So how far away is his commute. Seventy five mile a mile or sixty four eighty four miles. Yeah I'm sixty four miles. What is his like seventy eighty so he lives in danger falls? Right Lop Falls correct. Yeah she's it's all that gas money he's just at the gas station. She's picking up chef. Boyardee our say. This is the great thing about Bobby. He's dedicated he is he's all and he's an all in game of course as we all know that we love Bob Dwyer just a little bit concerned for his health. He says he gets gas every day before he. Dr Stork is the pump gas every day every day. Or does he go to a station where they know heat pumps pumps he also gets gas at work after he has Jeff Boyer McCain pain. Let's go to Anthony in Long Island. Anthony what's happening. Hey other geo. When's the last time? Have you been to the house over the summer. I would go there all the time. It's actually it's cold the order now because I think the or how sounded a lot like the whorehouse so they changed it to the ore off but yeah I I go there in the summertime generally a summer spot Brian. What they're about six or seven times? There's three slips. There is three transient slips for the boat. And you can pull right in. Its It's tremendous and I love that place. I wait a couple of days. We'll have lobster Rigatoni who absolutely. Yeah Yeah Dick Blake's Leones that place. The Great Dig Blake Sleep so you could say A single overhead next Dick Dick Dick Dick plays a boom. I think he would like it. If you went. Oh you you gotta remember. There's a whole half of boomer that love stuff like that you gotTa stop at the Bussiness Anthony. You have no idea what I'm all about and I was at the Irish coffee publicize this week. I I I you know I get down with the real people. This was a man who used to clam these. There's half of him that has crossed over to the Buji dark side. There's another half that love love stuff like south shore. Oh yeah on the water diner percent. Yes I've got my point. I always make W I listen to you guys. You're great right and everything. He goes from trolling fans about Lamelo ball saying that they should move. The three point. Line of thirty five feet is about about two people that can shoot that consistently and then you say take it away. Yeah that's why that's why I say thirty-five feet because you know what they don't even play basketball anymore. They just dribble up the court and hoist up a three. That's it that's what I'm watching. I can at least in college basketball. They play defense. They pressed they double team. They play a little zone here and there and and they play their MBA. They just voiced threes. It'd be neat to paint a little bit smaller than emphasize a little bit more. Big Play down low. Oh you make it thirty five feet. It's very boring is people aren't going to be shooting he's anymore they have no big. Pass the ball down to the post of Christ. It's in the late. Great Red Holzman. Read our back when there was no three point shots and talk to me about how great that basketball was back then and how significant the big man play was back then. That's one of the reasons. Why if you ask me the center position is basically non existent anymore? I mean you have to be athletic like Mitchell Robinson for sure and you gotta get block shots and you gotTa have what they call Rim protectors and all that other stuff. But I mean come on. I mean how many three point shots are taken on average Shaw. It's insanity but I will say I think that the fact that the Knicks being bad as they are for as long as they've been bad has soured you even more on the type of play that's in the NBA. Because I will argue that if the Knicks were the box. Let's say or the Lakers or the clippers of the raptors that we wouldn't be talking about about the style of play. We'd be thrilled that they were winning. But when your team stinks and consistently has no shot and then you put on NBA Games and you see a style play. You don't like then. All of a sudden accentuates the NHL change some rules from the hooking the slashing. You know the stick checking around around the hands which turns into a hook now and all this other different stuff to get to open the flow of the game because the players so much bigger and the ice is still the same size. Yes and you know. There's not a lot of room out there. And they've opened it up to a point. Where will you watch a guy like connor mcdavid player? Sidney crosby player Matthew Barzel or you know our Tammy Brennan play. There's enough ice space out there because players do not wanna take penalties and it has created offense without really changing engine significantly the game now. They did change a game. To some extent with the trapezoid behind the goaltender all because her Martin Brodeur but I wish they would get rid of that and go back to the old old style and I don't like that impact on the game but you know they took the red line and the game to which is nice. Yeah I mean for for two line offside passes which opens the game as well. But I don't know who the NBA is selling to. which is the the younger fan who loves shooting and lovely grew up watching steph curry? Do what he was doing. I don't know of. They hate the way the five footer. Sure could I mean he's one of the few guys that could but you know yeah right but I mean our guys out there that could do. I don't know that everybody disagrees with the way that the game is played. I mean I I I do find it exciting. Just the province. We don't have a good team to watch like we never talk about the way that the NBA is right now at the amount of threes and no defense if the Knicks were a story every night the games that they were playing as they were winning and they had a chance at one or two seat or something like that. We'd never complain about that. We'd be talking about matchups and all they're gonNA play this team. They're going on a west coast swing and we we talk about rotations and different guys and all the stuff we talk about but because basketball is dead at Madison Square Garden. These are the things that come home up. And it's just a shame is a total shame like nets fans right now. Even other season hasn't gone the way they want to do. You think they're talking about the way the game is played. Now it's like when Durant is GonNa get lv when and Kyrie comes back. It's about Joe Harrison Carrozza Vert. Oh Yeah Jared Allen all those guys that's what it's about it's amazing I watched the capital's founders last night. But did you. Yes and what I saw was effort and what I saw this guy's hitting each other and going after each other and I mean it was a pretty physical game. He's teams don't like each they do have somewhat of a rivalry and they've played each other physical every time they play because of the players that are involved but man was was an interesting in your face type again. What was it to really good teams? Yeah I get it but to really good teams in the NBA tonight. The even the sixers have had their struggles. But he got clipper sixers. I mean that's ending Aright or is that game it's in Philadelphia. Turn on Joel. embiid Jimmy Butler trying to recruit the Miami. You know the clippers. That's the next thing Joel. EMBIID is going to get one hundred in fifty million dollars. Contract misses the first years of his career. And then he's GonNa WanNA trade well he has not requested a trade yet. That is not what are you saying. So you're telling me that Jimmy Butler trying trying to get him to come back. That doesn't that doesn't mean that you requested a trade. It means Jimmy Butler got on instagram. That's what it means and it's good as well. This is the next players start bitching about his is present situation in Ben. Simmons can't spread the floor for some Freakin reason. I have no idea why they don't understand what's going on. Hey Hey we we just paid you a one hundred and fifty million figure it out. Yes you should be. NBA Coach Nancy. How that works out for like five seconds Matinees Windsor New Jersey? What's going on that? Hey boomer Heggie so Two weeks ago I was up in Boston to watch The Primetime Games Celtics Vic sixers and popular fall got in for two minutes in Pali to bet. Two minutes is four three still cheering for him since the third quarter quarter and when the seven foot five foot or guiding there it just went nuts. Any scored a basket gotTA rebound and I agree with boomer You know oh I miss the old days with a seven footer. Dueling it out. Well I mean the reason why people like Taco fall is because like you know we as a society love abnormally large or Gerard normally small things. That's why tacos right. TLC exists because of the abnormally large or abnormally. Small things. Like that's why there's three different shows of of obese people on TLC right like there's one thousand pound sisters my six hundred pound life and then hot and heavy are all so like when seven seven times Komo News right here when we get into the game. It's it's fun to watch I was. I was watching Georgetown game this weekend. George Murison remember him. Of course your son plays for Georgetown. George Murison was in that movie Who Was it Billy Crystal George Murison member that Mo- horrible? The movie that he resents bill giant or something so my giant all right well anyway so his son was playing and I was thinking about. George Murison was a big guy but you know oh for for me I I think Patrick Ewing and Hakeem Olajuwon own added. That was that was great basketball. Was it not so you know it was and I was just laughing at that. That horrible movie Memphis whole. You don't remember. That movie is so horrible. I don't remember it and I didn't being Billy Crystal and George Murison. And what do you want from me just like a big mess and Bill said that stupid movie basketball. That was that a South Park guys man. I was funny I I was that the one who was the one. That was another really bad basketball movie. That somebody daddy with Whoopi Goldberg. She was the knicks coach. Then there there was also Kevin Durant was in a movie like thunder oppor something. He was in a movie thunder up. Thunderstruck Thunderstruck Thunderstruck. It is a horrible sports talk topic. Oh who's your favorite sports movie. We could do like the worst ones my giant Eddie Miracle. No we're not doing the best. No no we're not doing it. Leads that stuff remy Lawrence all right. You know I just I just have fond memories of George Murison and Billy Crystal and use jogged. All those things it makes me it. Still think parasites should have won the Oscar. Yeah I do actually I like rated Oscars like like in the last twenty years. So what does that have to do this year so now that this. This elaborated Oscar. I'm now I think the world is celebrities are just over with done with how many people watch it on the celebrity train too late. I'm not what are you talking about. Your celebrity me are not G. O. Does Not Happen Listen. You would've never you would've of never ever ever had a nick bed at snappy. Our if you weren't a celebrity people listen to the show. There doesn't mean I'm a celebrity AL local celebrity right Longtown valley this as a celebrity though. I love how you think. I should change my opinion on a movie that I watch based on the Oscar ratings. I'm just saying. Do you still think if you're the one best bigger ratings. Watch the movie and I liked it. I don't understand the impression that's what you just did. That's the impression. No that's that's the that's that's jerk boomer jerk you still think that movie should've won ratings. Renouncing means everything sucks so whatever you lost the ratings are down it has nothing to do with how many people wise I don't know what it was the lowest rated in like twenty years. That's all I'm saying. The connection between the WHO won best picture no it. There's the here's the connection. Let's write boomer. Does in Light Democrat that. Yeah but I what I don't understand is the parasite RECYC- connection decides aren't they know but anyway no but the point is is that I was just asking you about the movie and it has nothing as the ratings of the show. I was just saying you still feel strongly that that should have won the Oscar change that I don't know I thought maybe you had to think about it. No okay the movie I liked it and I say that won best picture. That's kind of cool. Do Different foreign language film one big deal like I if once upon once upon a time in Hollywood one that would it'd been fine. If marriage story. I saw that one that would have one. That would have been fine because I liked all his movies. This one one I was like. Oh that's good. Well I liked it. I don't go that deep into it. You know all right I really really don't I still wanNA see nineteen seventeen. I still WANNA see Gioja Rabbit. I WANNA see those movies but I like Ford versus for our. I WanNa see that to you and hopefully I'll get around to it right before. Being a father is a lot easier to watch more movies now. I squeeze him and when I can but I don't understand why would sleep on what movie I liked and then in coming days of fighting my opinion still think that deserved radio with me. The ratings are down but you like to toss out at those things and then just move on and then I call you out on them. And then you're like I don't say Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah like. What are you saying? Say First of all I'd say what is the point. I don't go blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. I don't do that. What would you say what it is? Now what is the issue that you have. I don't have an issue what you do because you bring it up and then you let it sit there and then when I ask you specifically about it you never elaborate I just I can't imagine. Did you get so tied up and so worked up over these things but this is what I want to but you do. You're the one who's worked up. Then you drop you drop it down into the conversation. Asian expected to just sit there and then when I ask you what you mean you never explain. I don't feel like I'm worked up. Yeah well it worked up you do. How far is vegas see that Afars? You see this impression of me you do. You're going back to something three days old carrying around some leads. What I what you do without carrying around some rob? You wanted to sit there and nobody asks you about it and when you ask about it you don't have an explanation for the next time you do it. I'll get a call yet again on it and say what do you mean. Say what you mean. What are your main? Say what you leave La value now. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason in Gregg Giannotti Boomerang feel priceless brassy using the gloves in the travel pack that boomer gave him already got to be careful with those Columbus's though because the gloves don't protect your anything the gloves are now touching stuff. So don't touch your face with the clubs because then that just ruins all prisoners the same as me touching my hand. So that's that's one of those things. I never understood like at a Deli Sandwich plays. He had the people with the gloves-on and then they make sandwich with the gloves on and they go and touch the money with the gloves. I'm like all right. This guy's got gonorrhea. Yeah right you never know but don't you think. The skin absorbs more germs than the glove like the glove. I feel like the germs. Might just fall right off it all right off offit. Yeah like the glove repels the germs germs. Go into your skin a physics class did you take is that. Is that a gas or did you get awesome guest cliff here some sort of sharp edge. I don't believe that that's true. I just think that if you're going to be using gloves you've got to be changing enging the gloves constantly or not face right which is sometimes difficult to do. If you got an Itch I got to take the gloves off each hold on you. You mentioned engine the The thing about the Megan Sandwich with the gloves. I re- VOL couple. Maybe two years ago I had to call the health department on this day. We would miss tally to and they told me. The requirement is only one glove like. What's the point of one glove? God and why is there. A requirement right requirement make come where to go to glove requirement as the did you ever go back to that place and find out if they change their ways. I did go back. And they did not change their way question. What did they do with these loves? When they're done they go right to the landfill or or decomposed? Naturally would what is it if the decomposing and they're no good. Let's go to todd now on hers. Todd Todd Yeah. I'm sorry guys you there yeah. We're todd what do you got anywhere. Yeah we're still here. I'm sitting in line dunk adults get my coffee shop for you and I love to hear so so jail. Yeah let's let's. Let's see aggression with with boomer. Yeah well you mean sounds like you got a Lotta Lotta Venom behind the VACA fourth. Now I mean listen man. It's a it's a talk talk show. I get worked up on emotional guy as part of the reason why sit here. People Laugh when I get worked up so I ended up just getting worked up. No the one thing that that I was trying to get boomer to say. Sometimes he does these things where you're like drops these hints on stuff. And I just would like him to say so he does. These things are dragged me and like the Oscars thing. What he wanted to say was that he hates all these actors who use their speeches for the political platforms and wish but instead he did this roundabout thing like you're still like the movie winning the Oscar and I'm like yeah I did? That has nothing to do with anything. That's what I think was going. No you're trying Kinda think deeply I think so and with me on this one hundred. I'm with you under percents. Right boomer. Doesn't like Democrats saly absolutely fine and we get it but like like. I don't know what that had to do with me liking parasite I didn't understand the connection because Eddie plays that that that is not accurate implied. I laugh at it. It's funny great. That's fine but there was no subliminal message about anything to things here's what you need a new segment. What boomer said what what he really wanted to say and also we need a video of Paul Turner? When he's asked to record these his facial reaction action he's delivering that powerful Voice of God? Right now that he he is in shape that guy ever see him he's jacked. You would never really. He's actually saw Tom. I don't know what was it. The twenty fifth showed up. Yeah Grand Central. Yeah he looked like Vegas You know steroid carrot top right any any a time on his hands to hit the gym. He looked exactly like that. I always picture them in like a you know a role del just like sitting around stuff and don't onto his face smoking cigarettes drinking coffee and just waiting for the copy to come in and reading it. I will tell you though that the best like political fights that go on in this building little known boomer and Chernoff these guys get really you guys get into it. It's it's a spectacled really is if you're getting I don't think we're getting into or we're having a nice conversation. Oh Man Air Fun because they were both naked politics. Start getting into the ladder they go back and forth is Great Spurs. You don't engage with Harrison. I could see that getting a little well. Now Harris doesn't want a piece of that really usually they keep it to the hawk. Yeah Harris wants to talk rangers. The shift he wants to go home uh-huh he doesn't need a piece of boomer at that hour you gotta remember. There are different levels so Harris's just he's coming in for landing coming off the high boomers going up for take-off right like this would always happen with me and Evan. Evan would do was still doing middays like I walk out into the the newsroom. At like whatever nine forty five is I'm coming the landing and he's ready for the next next next. What do you think of this when you think of this training? Save it for the show. He does a full talk show in the newsroom. Before actually talk show himself. He still has the energy he does. The man is full of energy. Oh all right so we covered last hour. The reported potential changes to baseball's postseason format which would begin twenty twenty two and would have to be obviously collectively bargain with the players association. So kind of pump. The brakes in all of it for now but the specifics are little interesting. Number of playoff teams from ten to fourteen. You'd have three division winners. Four four wildcard teams per league team with the best record in each league gets a buy into the division series remaining division winners get to choose their opponent for the wild card round and those selections and in the proposal would be unveiled live on TV Sunday night of the final regular season games almost like a little selection Sunday. Feel for you. If they didn't he'd go this route that remains needs to be seen down in. Port Saint Lucie. Mets pitchers and catchers did report yesterday. Officially wouldn't be as after an off season of collaboration with Pedro Martinez says some minor. I mean just minor. Minor adjustments have ready to actually put those two working off season. And I feel I feel really good to this going into the season advice. Good vibes about it and we know Jerry's familiar down about thirty two. You know some guys come in and say lost weight like familiar actually looks like he's lost weight so good for him even matters. I Dunno now. He informed us that Last year he was quote really overweight. So I guess peg came off easily and he did suffer through his worst statistical tickle seasons since becoming a regular big league reliever. He said Fried Foods Rice. Food was kind of the things that he had to cut off took him about two weeks the cravings and then he was good to go. Yeah and also he used to eat at six o'clock in the morning chef Boyardee Spaghetti and meatballs out of a can and also chicken fingers waffle fries. So don't watch out Bob Dwyer and apparently has also didn't shed as much because he's thin to begin with. But the mets sent him a nutritionist and in a special workout person good. They're being proactive. All you can make fun of all the stuff you want at least. They're trying to be proactive with these. Yes Jeff McNeil already down in Florida work it out. He says a new manager Luiz. Rojo's shouldn't have any trouble making out the lineup card. Since he's magic automatic so many of these guys in the minors already knows really. Well you know. Play play for him for number years and he knows where we'd like to hit and You know kind of what works so so what happens happens. You shouldn't have a problem. Like Mickey callaway grace. I like it too with Lonzo behind me and away. We go and now. He's gearing up for a lot of time at third base instead of bouncing around with all the money they sunk into the spring training facility and in the clubhouse get. I said that that's part of this whole if you buy The metro buying that as well so I guess that the the club has done in. Port Saint Lucie that the major league team uses the Minor League team down. There does not use because they say this is something to work for. Okay I like it but it's also always the money isn't it just basically now using it for a month month and come the also redid their Field Stadium Liam yeah tens of millions of. Maybe maybe. That's why they're selling. Because of the money. They spent on redoing a lot of money other places. I listen when it comes to the mets and any of it out I understand company has that up for sale the organization or just that the whole thing. Yeah okay all right Yankee should by Mike God Imagine Enke's could buy anything they want us. Speaking to the Yanks. Their pitchers Houston catchers report. Today I workout for both the mets and Yankees tomorrow as far as the pitchers and catchers go. You did have Masahiro Tanaka with the media yesterday eventually asked about about the Saying the astros cheated the Yanks out of a world series appearance in twenty seventeen in via his interpreter. Tanaka did say yeah. I do feel that way. So he's kind of led down that path ultimately gave you a an affirmative there but at the end kind of difficult to say so he kinda hedged it a little bit latest with the next New York Post reports Leon Rosas shortlist of head coaches. Once he's formally announced as the new team. President would include Tom Tomato and Jeff Van Gundy. The Knicks are off until tomorrow night when they host the wizards beat the nets. Pacers came down to the wire in Indiana. Hurt hurt inbounding. In the far side they get it at Dinwiddie up top seven checking to go one on one with Brogden right. 20-footer is three point. Eight seconds to go Brooklyn takes the lead risk arena here and you had three lead changes in the final half minute alone Spencer Dinwiddie with the dagger there. The Nets edged the Pacers. One zero six one zero five Dinwiddie twenty one and eleven assists only four fifteen from the field but he had the big shot there at the end also thirteen of fifteen at the free throw line. He was is one of eight nets in double figures. Kenny Atkinson's guys got the job especially in this place against a really good Indiana team. Chemistry was great. We had a lot of guys contribute. Defense who really good. That's that's really what kept us into game. We obviously didn't shoot. Shoot Well D. Andre Jordan was big off the bench. Lebanon points nineteen rebounds. That's the sixth straight loss for Indiana while the nets bounced back from their one point loss in Toronto the other day rematch with the raptors on the way for Garrett temple income. You can be a battle but we really want to get one before the break. They probably have the same thought. That'd be tomorrow night in Brooklyn final game for both teams leading into the all star. Break Toronto now up to fifteen straight wins. They beat the Timber Wolves last night. One thirty seven one twenty-six boiling de Ngelo Russell's Minnesota debut. You had the emotional return to the bay area for Andrea Agudelo. Now of course a member of the heat taken on his old team the warriors Miami Emme beat Golden State one thirteen one oh one little video tribute than a short speech from Klay Thompson meant a lot to etc more quiet one so he does speak to muscle superior for him Almost got me little. Did he know that you had steph curry and Klay Thompson on the bench playing rock paper scissors to determine who is going to get up and take the mic and kind of off the cuff. Say a little something about their former teammate. Or maybe he did help it. In any event He was back in the bay area and his team did get the win. Lakers beat up the sons suns. One Thousand Five hundred twenty the bucks beat the Kings without Yana synthetic hoopoe one. twenty-three Guan Eleven. He missed the game for the birth of his first child. He's got a little baby boy. Liam Charles Kubo yes. He tweeted out a picture yesterday but covered up the child's face with a baby Emoji so he didn't WanNa put the baby out there so you just saw the body with the baby Emoji in the little bassinet. They're so good for the antenna coupon. Why would you want to protect the baby's face and that people don't like putting their kids kids images out they're gonNA take advantage? I Guess John Koo Koo Don't post a picture at all exactly. Just say hey we welcome the child. Here's his name. Here's the child right. We're the best team in the NBA. Right now right Eastern Conference and I'll be back in a couple of days pretty much college. hoops stop wearing Baylor best at Texas Texas fifty to forty five Duke L. Lasting Florida state at Cameron Indoor Seventy to sixty five the islanders with little payback against the Catholic ticked the two chances today Villi twice in the opening six sixteen burke. MSG PLUS PAVILION A couple of early goals. Roles aisles led three one. After one they built a five one advantage. They went on to beat the capitals in D. C. Five to three last time these teams met less than a month ago. The aisles allowed five third period goals blowing a lead on home ice. Here's pavilion we can all these guys one from last game and came back and Big Win for us. Big Four point Khalid into tonight's home game against the flyers at Barclay Center tight race in the Eastern Conference standings right now also the devils host the panthers seven o'clock Devil's hockey network on radio DOT COM at at eight. You've got and the boys. The Rangers Jesse in Winnipeg does so. That's the official nickname right. Yeah that's much easier to say than dirk disturbing. Yeah I always ask to be something with a y right Jesse is going to be the Kirke or if the first name eagerly IGGY iggy right. That's an Andrea Dot Com shish Turkey. She stood out that Turkey Bro. Anything Else Philip rivers in the charges oranges as we know officially parting ways. I don't know why they need to tell us that. Guy Packed up and moved his family back to Florida weeks ago. We pretty much know that that was happening late season. We all figured that they'd be in the market for new quarterback. Everybody was assuming maybe Tom Brady if he wanted to go back to L. A. and they needed to sell some season tickets which are not doing a very good. The job of They to have those cells that are not going. I don't know how many people are going to show up in that stadium to watch. The chargers will depend on whose playing quarterback I would presume right. Ah Yeah you know. It's going to be interesting Cam. Newton Newton us and I'm thinking which is the first domino to fall quarterback wise in the off season like all the other teams waiting until we have some some clarity on. What's going on with Brady? I see I see. We could see a franchise tag for Ryan Tannehill Down in Tennessee Jameis Winston. I think that Bruce Arians would like to keep him. But I think they're also using Philip rivers and and I doubt Tom Brady in that scenario but I could see them using Philip rivers as leverage to try to get him to kind of minimize what his asking price of a lot of names teams right. Brady Rivers Bridgewater Dalton. While free agent he has one year left on his contract at some point. We expect he's going to hit the you would be traded. Okay you think they'd go trade rather than cutting I can see. I can see somebody like Dalton being traded to Tampa Bay or Chicago right the bears. That's another right so thinking you want a guy like him to do. What tanny hill did to Marcus? Mariota push push push him and then he can't respond then he can't get the team going then replace him from the chargers and Brady is not changing teams and not not a possibility. I do whatever I can. Even Cam Newton in is a wildcard. I I have two from business model standpoint I gotta try to get him and just take a shot star power there sure without Cam. Newton came out and said he fully expects to be playing with the Carolina Panthers But oh okay new coach and everything else. You know a whole new way of doing things. The last thing you want to do is have this hangover quarterback. That is doing his thing his way. When you're trying to change the whole entire organization so it'd be interesting to see what happens? Speaking of quarterbacks as far as the draft goes to got a great report on his hip. Yeah as far along as he can be at this point that the hip is fully came back clean tour tour tour to Canada Outta tag a viol- add Alabama him. Jj Yes. I mean here that one more time or not to attack a vial Alabama. Oh my gosh just one word. It is like a Walmart behind him to attack at Attala Attala Bama. Jj being tag vile Alabama. I think might have landed or is flying flying back. Don't even get me started. The Guy would not put down his cell phones on an international vacation with his longtime girlfriend. Right and I tell you that he was texting. I think the entire time our group chat readily available two rounds of golf complaining about sightseeing. We went here was born in person. One hundred hundred percent okay. So it makes you very nicely. I have as well last year's Yankee Fan fest. God bless her. Yeah now do you think that they've been together for a long time. Okay do you think that she thought this was the trip. They were getting engaged. It's a great question so that's always the thing when you go away after a long time a big vacation like that around Valentine's Day she probably was thinking this is where I get me started texting. CEELO sure it crossed her mind knowing. Jj though you so you might have like preempted. And Ben like Jesse No. It's not happening to them. I could see that I could definitely see that now. Has He talked to you about furthering. His relationship tip is something. That's easy like someone who wants to get married or do you like an Al.. Who's like ads bird? It's on his radar. He claims you know student loans. I had to bowl. Exotics didn't worry about sixty months. I would've taken care for student loans. Well take care. Everybody should pay for everything for everybody. There it is again. He did say what he wanted to say. That data all morons talking about stuff like that there you go finally throw little Bayton of water comes over. Fish comes up all right. Is that all you got I. I think we're okay. Awesome each morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Leonardi boomer and Geo it is boomer and GIO hasn't mentioned we're talking about a lot of stuff. I I WANNA get your take on this before we get back to these calls so we talk about how long it took for the giants move on from Eli Manning Right Long Long Time Yup and what the perfect time is to move on. It's tough now the closest I could say maybe the perfect time to move on was when the Ravens he's moved on from Joe flacco probably waited a year too long but yeah it was a year too long. Yeah they knew they saw what they saw younger though. Yeah but they saw what they saw they they knew they should have moved on. But yes all right but I will agree with you that they determine that we. We won't Lamar Jackson. And we're going to change the whole team just by that one player that one personality that one different type of quarterback that that we're gonNA move away from yes. I agree with so I think it was the reason it was hard for the Ravens. was they were going through the Whole Roster sorta turnover as it was so and Joe flacco is a little bit longer? So what. How do we judge? The Philip Rivers chargers thing because back in twenty twenty eighteen. Philip rivers was really good. I mean that was a team that a lot of people believe could go into foxborough. I was one of them and could beat the Patriots that year with the way they played against the Ravens and Lamar Jackson in the wild card weekend and then he comes back in two thousand nineteen and Ufa looks like he really really lost a three or four steps so now they're moving on from so. I think that they waited a year too long or or did did they find the appropriate time. The other problem with that team is that they were moving their moving from one city to another. They needed stability at quarterback they needed and somebody that they could sell into the new market which was L. A.. And everybody knew who Philip rivers was. I think Phil was very difficult to deal with on the field. You know. There's a lot of yelling and screaming and and all that kind of stuff that goes on that we don't see so. I think that you know. They just gave their their coach. You know Lynn Coach Win a new contract extension. Attention they're going into a new stadium. They need a new presence at quarterback. That's why many of us thought that this was going to be his last year in La and it turned out to be true. So I they never won a super bowl with them. You know he's Joe. FLACCO won a super bowl won a super bowl. Mvp Bet on himself got the big contract. He He Li- won the two super bowls. You know I can understand the loyalty that was given to him by by John Mara. Who basically you know to me? And he was the guy that Kinda like screw this whole thing up over the last four years higher. Fire Tom Kaufman Higher. Ben mcadoo you know. Let Jerry Reese go out and spend as much money as he couldn't free agency to try to help Ally Manning from a defensive standpoint that almost worked actually and then of course it was Dave Gettleman who had to come in here and clean and all this stuff up and they waited a year too. Long in my estimation they did but now we're past that there is a entrenched number one quarterback for the for the giants and it's going to workout great and I think Joe Judge gets the benefit of now inheriting a team without Eli on is you don't feel like the chargers hung on Hilbert's too long. I think every team has different reasons reasons why they hold onto players. Yeah because they moved. I think they need disability a quarterback. Now what about the steelers. Because the steelers now have been rothlisburger who is part of that same class and he had a year where he missed for for injury. Bazeley entire season had a great year. His best statistical season he's ever had he had in the last full season he played in two thousand eighteen. We also had beyond Bellini also had Antonio Brown's video and they were good. He didn't have remembered that he sat with them. So I will. I will say this. The thing about the steelers is that they have a culture around that team that you know it's going to be defense. I now again I think. Defense run game. I and their defense showed something. They're going to be a tough defense coming back this year. And they're going to give them a year to see whether or not he can get back to where he was prior to his injury. Now Brent Ben says he's going in. He's going to be good to go this year so we have to see now what he looks like and I I would imagine in the back of their minds. They're thinking who was the next guy I don't I believe it's Mason Rudolph. I don't believe anybody that they have in their roster right now so I would not be surprised if they do draft a quarterback in the second round and see if they can hit on one yeah. They've they've tried that a couple years though. I remember Josh Ryan Keep Trying Joshua Dobbs Landry Jones. Doc Hodges keep trying keep trying just keep you know when you. I have an opportunity. There's somebody there that you think that Mason off. You just never know the guy but I think he's a part of that team in the fabric of that team. I don't ever see Ben Rothlisberger for whatever reasons him playing anywhere else. The you know I don't I don't I do think we'll come back and be be healthy again and be able to play at a high level of the other thing about the NFL. Two things one is now the Jaguars GonNa play two of their games back to back games over in London. So that's two home games. They're taking away from their home fans down Jackson. I can understand why because they don't get a full stadium in shod con the owner down. There saying this is worked out well for everybody so those are going to be home games. Salaam bolted we're GONNA be home games. That are going to be back to back weekends. Wow which if you're if you're Jacksonville player. I wonder how that works out. I wonder if they get extra compensated. There's different tax structures. I'm not really sure about all of that. But you know if you're Jacksonville Jaguar player and so you have to go to play two games in London. I would think you have to be compensated for that. Obviously they're gonNA put you up in a nice hotel and they're gonNA take good care of you but you know that's kind of a weird thing. Yeah I mean eventually that entire team's going to be over there and we know and I never liked that idea. I'm not Jaguar's Fan and don't live in Jacksonville. So it shouldn't matter to me that much. I just don't like the fifty thousand fans a game where Jackson accessibility to get that many. I don't know I'd have to look it up but I know that they cover the upper deck like they do in Oakland. There's reasons why these teams are moving. You know either. They can't get the tax The local tax support the state tax support and. I'd just rather have make a move somewhere else in this country. That's my big thing. I don't know I just I don't like that whole deal and think about the times. Those west coast teams have to go over there. It's insanity says fifty nine thousand averaged aged last year Jacksonville. Jaguars Jaguars all for you know. And obviously the the city of London and I'm sure the country of England in some way shape or form are paying the NFL to come and bring their games there so they actually built that new stadium that is was is built for for American football as well as soccer. Now don't they say Jaguar over there isn't the way they say that Jaguar so now they're going to be the London jagged loss. I mean why is this so many different pronunciations of Jack Wires. And they're all acceptable. Are they jazz liars. Is Your your jagged wires all the time. Yeah I know but I know that was acceptable. I know when Bart Scott used to do those commercials here who Jagua that was his thing. Jan Wa Ah Wah Jaguars but not accept. No no no. That's say. Jagua Jagua Jaguar. I say Jaguar. What do you Eddie I say? Jaguar Jaguar Jaguar you before you just went Jaguar. That was a slip of the tongue. Was it too many of those commercials. Jagua let's go to Louis in Manila. What's going on Louis? Hey Hey man big fan. I wish getting on the morning but I can never get in. So don't screw it. I'm not A little bit about the dress. NFL draft. I'M A. I'm a diehard IHEART. Mommy's dolphins fan and you know the quarterback situation always been a little struggle I was like Tannehill watching leave and produce definitely hurt. But now they do have nice chance for their franchise quarterback. I really wanted to know what you thought about how reports yesterday came out about to route. Everything was positive and the factors healed Do you think the definitely a chance to get him. Or you think it'd be hard to spot now They might Detroit up. Maybe Nice I right now. I still think they can get them with. And here's the thing Just so you know the the bingos. Obviously you're GonNa Take Joe Borough and then the redskins lions and giants all have their quarterbacks and they're all all looking for different types of help mainly you know the giants could go offense winding could go edge rusher. They can go this. Kid Simmons out of Clemson but I think that Detroit Reut and Washington seem to really want the defensive players that are there from Ohio state. That would leave to at number five and Justin Herbert for that matter At number five. Four Miami to make a choice of Ya I would not trapped. I wouldn't after this injury. I wouldn't draft them and I know this could come back and be one of those trees and cold takes. I do not believe he's going to have is accessible. NFL career everybody's wrapped up in weather is going to be healthy enough to come back from this hip. What I look at is a guy? I had two of those on each ankle. Two of those major procedures for high ankle sprains and then ended up having this massive hip injury. He hasn't played a down down in the NFL. He is of slight stature. I just think it's taboo slide. Actually but he's smaller than you buddy's buddies bigger than column Murray but but he doesn't move around like column Murray the one they will say about two am watching. I would say about a hundred of this Stroz. He's about as accurate as they come. He is he. Can I put the ball anywhere. I mean these bad some amazing games. He he might have been the foreign away. The number one guy had he stayed healthy and Alabama made it to the National Championship. Came again and but you know the year that Joe put together with the greatest single season of quarterbacks ever put together in college football and when you go back and you look at it and you look at the throws that he made and and the fact that they were in a pro style offense that was led by Joe Brady who came from the same to his now with the panthers tells you all you didn't know about his ability to go from one side of the field to the other to read levels to throw the ball accurately the thing that really kind of jumped out at me when I was watching him later. This late in the season was his ability and run with the ball and move and you know that speaks to him being a allstate point guard in Ohio when he was in high school so this kid is a great athlete. Sleep well as a kid throw the ball on the barrel yes not even close. I mean listen. He's far and away the guy this year just for the dolphins too I think will be are there. That's going to be a decision for them. I I just. I wouldn't do either him or Justin. Herbert the I know. That's what I'm saying is going to be a decision. I wouldn't do it. I think the guy too many injuries in a short amount of time for Graham. See One. Here's the one thing about Justin Herbert into a tunnel by Loa that that really makes you think about whether or not they can be your aid type. You know personality to take over your team. We wondered at about Daniel Jones but the more I saw him play the more I saw him carry himself on the sideline the more. I started to believe that he can be the leader and now he's going to be the leader because there's no Eli there anymore. It's his team. I think Sam Darnold could be that guy. I know that Josh Allens that guy and know that Burr Baker Mayfield at least personality wise. Is that guy. And it seems like Lamar Jackson. Is that guy I I don't know about to a two. It could be a you know. Is he a marcus. Mariota type is the alot like a like a logo alot adrenaline Guy. It's like a just a perfect. A person human being. I don't necessarily know that you could do that and play quarterback living edge. You got to have an edge. Ta You gotTa have a whole thing about Justin Herbert. He could came out last year and would have been a top five. Pick most likely before saying anyone back. 'cause he wanted to play with his brother. What is his personality like? His athleticism is probably great. Like most oh skies are. I'll tell you one thing watching Ryan Tannehill play for the titans. That was a different Ryan. Tannehill that was planted them. When applying for the Miami Dolphins opens? I don't care what anybody says. He was more mature. It was like it's almost like he threw caution to the wind. And like you know what I can play this game. I don't give a damn what anybody says. Of course. He's going to be playing in the conference. That has Patrick Mahomes in it so he may not make it much further than he did last year but still he looked like he has grown into being an. Nfl Fell eighty-five personality now. Yeah a complete career renovation each morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Saudi boomer and Geo phone on call that I have to take because I was asking many questions about this before and we weren't getting any answers so this man seems to be a an expert on the matter later. I didn't know how certain fish got into lakes how they weren't like connected to a larger body of water so Chris in Pennsylvania was. It's going on Chris. Good Morning. Hi How are you Chris. What's up man? Well my name is Christine. Joe Lissi Guys WanNa get those jokes out of the way. Okay okay like the magician. Yes I get the mind for you call the time all right. So what do you have on these Lake fish well. It's obvious that either people can put them midnight or they can get there by connected body of water but there's a third way mother nature's way okay. Birds Feet solely when when when you when ducks and geese and whatnot going into a pond or lake and they forage they get fish. Jake stuck to their feet. And then they fly to the next lake and their eggs fall off in that lake and that's Mother Nature's way of getting fish around. Wow that's that's amazing. And then those fish sometimes you get a male fish female fishes and they get together and end the little fish babies and now we've got a big insist you incestuous was fish family in a way in a lake right as long as the conditions are right if you build it they will come all right Chris. Will you go very good. So just say we know in Bartlett Lake like I was telling you out there in Arizona. You can fish for large mouth bass small mouth Bass Channel Catfish flathead catfish black crappie crappy Pena said Fish Blue Gill at Bartlett Lake. So there you have it. Wow okay. It's a lot lot of species in there. Yeah I feel like though. They've people have throwing those fish in those lakes that I'm not I don't like that. No of course not look at the the species of fish you catch there. Yeah it's still not like ocean shouldn't fishing or Florida keys fishing but it's as it's better than authority about a hurricane no you don't. Scorpions are out there. Extreme in heat is out there rattlers. rattlers are out there. I don't you guys love Arizona and stuff about Al Hours a big hiker in Arizona. Yeah enjoyed I like the mountains you know we are so used to the oceans here living here. It's nice to go somewhere. You see mountains. Mountains is literally in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Yeah but I don't really see them when I'm driving on the highway like those mountains you know like those are different mountains. That are out there all right and he loves mountains to I do love the Rockies Love Vermont Green Mountain's White Mountains Rocky Mountains. The amazing thing is once the water hits about sixty degrees stories out there in Arizona. Maybe air temp. You could use top water. Laura's jigs spoons and worms could you. Yeah they work all year round. Yeah it's in the mild weather out there. Yeah g-gonna Spoon Yup. You know what that stuff is because you're seamen that's right. Oh Yeah I very very experienced Just to sum up from last just our AL believes germs can fall off of these gloves. People wear yet this gentleman who just called. We've got ducks and geese that literally fly from one one lake to another with fish eggs. Don't fall off yeah interesting. Yeah really fast. So they do fall off. That's how they're making fish in the lakes. Yeah but not in the in flight because again body of like like. I said when you don't wear a glove the germs soak into your skin when you wear a glove it repels the germs. He did not get one scientist or doctor or something to call. I've been screaming that I had one angry man on twitter. Angry man it's not an informative mandate fighting with him. No I let him say his peace he can believe what he wants to believe so we just got to put some gloves or some sort of vote on the correct. There's nothing for the German the soak into it's a plastic love into your skin is porous right in the germs. Go in there and the inside of your skin and hang out throw party. Well they know what they do. Is they lay on your fingertips and you touch your eye. which had membranes not skin and then it soaks in there your nostrils have membranes not skin wow your lips your tongue? The whole inter-party your mouth. That's where the germs are getting in. I had a breach with the membrane. I know we've become obsessed at this point. Yeah did you see the last episode of outsider. Only part are you didn't watch the whole thing. I was getting sleepy and you have to pay attention show. I had to shut it off. You gotTa Lock In. Yeah you got that show is just yes when that starts if anything is going on in the House House I got a shuttle all the lights the dogs I put them in the kitchen. I block them in for an hour. So they're not in my face begging for something. It's I totally into that show show if you haven't seen that show gripping completely gripping on Hbo yes the outsider. I started watching the mkx millions documentary or series whatnot on sort of first first half hour the interesting all right. So what do you got man so. With the new reported proposal of changing baseball's postseason format take a look back at the last six seasons seasons. Why six that are no? But we'll just throw that out there to see how things would have played out under the proposed system so in half of those seasons you would have had an under five hundred team qualify. Oh five for or at least tie for a wildcard spot lowest win total within the top seven in each league was seventy nine twice. So if you're someone that's against under five hundred teams being involved in the postseason now. Of course you could make the argument that under this new system. Maybe there'd be some more motivation inspiration. Maybe teams a little bit more active at the trade a deadline to try and stay. Let's put it this way. You know these are not the Komo. I don't believe the commissioners ideas I believe the commissioner has a think tank and they're contin here trying to figure out different ways to make it more interesting to keep fans engaged to make more money to distract astros distracting. The Astros throws. Maybe one thing but you know like the. NB THE NFL is trying to go to a seventeen game season and probably expand this the playoffs by two teams in total one in each a conference. The reason are doing that is because that's the only way you can grow the game. That's the only way you can sell a seventeen game package to another network and now they're talking about possibly flexing Monday night right. How about that? I love Eh flex. I think it's awesome anytime that you can get some of those crap. Wrap Games out of there. I'm I'm in on all night schedule has not been great. But here's what I think. The problem is I think the problem is is that your two biggest biggest I or best parts that you've had our CBS and Fox. And your best rated games or the four twenty five games on Sunday and I. I don't think that they'll probably too much but I just like you know. How much more do you WanNa take away from to your best partners? But there's also protected games though in there right Sam. They don't look. ESPN is ready to write enormous check to the NFL. I think we all think that because. ABC is doing unbelievable hell. They knocked down over here. They could build themselves up a job normally headquarters. So they're going to. They're going to just throw money money at the NFL. They'RE GONNA end up getting a super bowl in this next cycle and they're going to the. NFL IS GONNA try to piecemeal this thing to keep everybody happy which is almost impossible possible. Somebody's going to bear the brunt of it and it's probably most likely. CBS and Fox in some regard. So we'll look forward to that New Jersey. Dr Steve The gentlemen how you doing. Hey I want to check in on you guys see Jerry sick. He was sitting boomers. Stop at time right and so we later about me shedding and incubator. I think I think I am but I. I think Jerry's got something completely different than I like. I said about a week after you guys flew to Miami right you got on a plane he got in the airport. He wasn't watching his hands. He didn't pay attention wasn't sleeping either by the way. That doesn't help too. So but listen I was thinking I've heard the tail end of Al talking about his. How is more likely to get germs embedded into your skin on your gloves? I'm sorry to burst our bubble but it's actually the that's that's why I what happens. Is that these gloves. Latex gloves that we use they have a tendency to actually hold onto germs for very long time so therefore when you go into an exam room and you put gloves on examining the patient you gotta take the gloves off and go on to the next patient and still washing hands because those gloves are actually very poorest was actually the opposite but once you you have something on your hands. While washing hands you'll find viruses can can live up on live on our skin and on Table tops for any with up to twenty four hours. Sometimes Times. I mean that's just go. You have to watch the keys. Washing your hands Dr Steve. You're you're just nothing bad news every time when you call us and say you guys last time you know you have your weather guy call you. Call you when the guy for this for football when you have you stupid questions about medicine feel free to they call me all right. There's no such thing as a stupid question. Dr Steve Come on. You know that very true very true. Now I saw. Hi Dr Steve. I saw a guy. Someone sent me this article of a man in a full blown tent. Plastic tent on a plane. Is that okay. Well well I think that the reason for that right that recently. Yes yes because this whole corona virus so the corona virus were learning remember. We talked last week. I said to you. There's something spread through big large droplets in small droplets and once again now the corona virus shown to be possibly through small droplets so as being more airborne. So that's why so many people are so concerned with this right now and it's spreading like wildfire obviously through Europe and now it's coming here to since it spread through the air a lot of times by By painting up like that so to speak theoretically. You're yes you are You know extensive. I think the smartest thing that the cruise cruise ship did was pull into Jersey over there. Because everything's going to dial big all all those gas tanks and there's no way of viruses making it through that survives way to Newark. y'All set Jackley. All right. Dr Steve. We appreciate the knowledge is always. And y'all put you on hold just in case Al wants to take down your number in a pinch thousand more questions. Cops they wanted to be filler genital infection. Oh my God what he has now who l.. Hope not yeah. This guy was in a full-blown long ten on a plane. Put up put himself in a plastic tent and sat on a plane. Well look we had somebody who brought a vote on a plane now. His tent on the plane. I mean what else love pony motionless support pony right so one of those actually. I'm sorry it was an emotional support. Miniature Horse Yeah. That's Yeah No. No rose a miniature horse that one day. WHO's very large woman? The picture in the paper yeah. It was one of those mini horses. It's not it's not really opponents. A Horse that does not grow past ponies. Ah Glad you cleared that up. You're used to be a miniature horse farm not that far away from where I live now and you drive by it on the way to the Deli L. E. in there they'd be like six of them in there running around and I as a kid. I just thought that's what happened like there was like. Oh yeah of course many horses around. That's an illegal legal Ronkonkoma where it was right on south country road and he's patch and I I just thought I'd tell people about it like Oh yeah. We got many many horse farm. And he's like what I'd bring him to it and they'd see it and they they sometimes they play with a ball. They'd kick a little ball around. Hove's runaround furthers my standing anytime. I have to drive out to Long Island. I feel you like going to another country. Well it's the same thing with Awesome Jersey. I guess just as more cool stuff online so much more of course right you got solar panels. We got your horses. This is no yeah no solar panels we still. We still have hitchhikers. We've got above ground pools clubs. Got It all down in. Port Saint Lucie. Mets pitchers and catchers did report yesterday Edwin Diaz has already gone on the record as saying he thinks the mets bullpen should be one of the best in baseball. This year and Newcomer Dell and Matanzas. Apparently a big part of that was a great for us. That was one of the one of the better pitchers in the history of the game. In my opinion I think just with the bullpen that we have I think he can make a UH tremendous everybody just needs to combat honestly by the way. Do you think that they're more strip malls on long island per square a mile than anywhere else in the world man probably per square mile past probably because the per square mile. You probably right. I mean because you think about like that. Stretch which of like eastern Nestle Western Suffolk Middle Island lie. Yeah Oh yeah I mean you're talk- strip mall central. It's all it is. That's all it is is. Yeah no I I think one hundred percent and then you get. I don't know if it's as much on the north shore but I I feel like like middle island stuff. Yeah you get a lot OUGHTA pizza parlors. Shore Chinese restaurants. You got that. They're a pharmacy. You got a five and ten like a mom and pops over you get a lottery. Sorry sure you might even have starbucks in there now a Jersey Mike's you throw in their Dunkin donut. Maybe like A. And then you might have like a chain. Jim Like Lucille. Roberts or something like that theory fitness right might have that the jammed in there and then right in the stationery store always have a Bagel store or a some sort of bakery. Of course yeah. I went to a place the other day and I went to a Bagel. This was like Coal Mak. I went to a Bagel store in a strip mall and Co Mak. which is exactly what you're talking about? Yeah Cold Bagel `sholay sounded fancy. Didn't well was it. No it was it was pretty good. I mean the Internet it. Add everything but isn't that the exact the exact thing you're talking about. Yes like middle of the the island Strip Mall Hillside Avenue Jericho turnpike that kind of stuff. BAGEL shall yeah Alot twenty-seven a otherwise known as Montauk highway for those of us who grew up Montauk highway main street. That kind of thing. Chris is in Nassau County. What's up Chris guys? Good morning you're GonNa love this this one. Yeah so my my daughter played softball Through Middle School High School into college has to get her shoulder fully reconstructed in the off season. I bring her into the surgery center. I'm sitting outside the building. Just you know just trying to wrap my head around this kid getting hurt shoulder recon conditioned and outside the lot comes a surge walks out of his car in full surgical linked clubs. Shoe covers facemask a Abu Hood bibs on out of his car walks up the side while building in the building couldn't believe it can fully contaminating anything completely clean and that's you know that he's a home dressers what he is like. We have hockey. I play hockey at this this winter sports club and we have guys. Is it come half dressed like they home dress. We have locker rooms. So they come in with their bottom pants and their chin pads on and everything I'll suck some dresser occupancy they don't I wanna take their pants off like who dresses like people who are body conscious. Probably I don't know but they'd rather get dressed at home in the locker room. I don't get that I'm telling you because their body Ati conscious it's Y as you say a little nibble or something like that and then next thing you know. That's what you said before I get get them you her a little What you McCall spare? Bear tire small package. It's not a big package. It's a small package home. That's exactly uh-huh Dresser especially see pictures of you in front of that Ford rather it's like boy constrictor down there. They've got you know how you they take the pill guys in the NFL. We'd have a walk-through on a Friday. Still out there getting a sweat on and all that other stuff and then guys are just throw their clothes on and leave on shower pill really. You're not taking a shower. I'm telling our pill shower bill next time if we ever. If we don't the Josh Miller game we probably won't we ever talk to him again. He will tell you. He used to run into the locker room. I take the quickest shower in the history of the world just to get in and out of there. Because you know he'd be showering next to Greg. Greg Lloyd and he small balls he would run here he goes. I think is that broke the record shower clean. Twenty five he was already dressed in added air before. Like Larry. uh-huh thinks that's the funniest stuff in the locker of greatest greatest. That's the greatest part played. The Games are great. Yeah when you're you know no no no no. I'm just talking about the whole interaction with the whole old team in the locker room. Like the funniest that that's the thing that we all missed them. Every every retired guy says that. That's the stuff that they stop that you. I would see that the you'd be crying laughing sometimes Kansas of stupid. But that's part of it. You told me that the one time a guy was sitting on a locker room stool and he tried to take all his thing to touch the ground round right exactly like many me and Third Austin Pal tripod did you. I felt like when we went to the call. You got upset there because as you head something good in your update I wanted to call on you. Throw up your hands like Oh man my hands. I got another interesting on. Okay sure Phil enhance it was going on. Hey what's up guys right Yeah I just thought it was funny. You mentioned We're talking about the difference between Long Island and Jersey and you said hitchhikers. I actually I'm in Jersey and I saw last week alone. I just saw two hitchhikers just on the side of highway driving and the one one guy I couldn't tell where what signs it was holding a cardboard sign. I couldn't tell what it said young. I was walking up the highway with a sign that said Philly would have some. The Guy was walking north. I'd say yeah I I'm not. I'm not picking up a guy that has a cord board sign right sorry right to say goodbye to your family. Yeah I didn't know hitchhikers. We still had the like the last hitchhiker in the world on Carlton Avenue Off Sunrise Highway. I thought that was the last one. We talked about that a couple of weeks ago this weekend. I didn't see them now. So the The Jersey also with the hitchhiker's all right CEELO one islanders. One all right the first time. You haven't worn a vest here in the long while yeah went back to the sweatshirt. Yeah all right. I figured I'd make you feel a little better. You got all hot and bothered about that guy that called up and blasted your appearance. I went back for my you know casual Jimmy no actually do appreciate ratio at each morning show with boomer aside you sit in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo there are talking about this guy. We've been robbing banks on. Staten Island. Looks like Little Puny Bitch. I don't understand al.. Anybody could get a bank rob- by this guy didn't have a weapon. Oh my God. He was like a ninety eight pounds soaking wet values. Look sickly. He shows up at a note boom. I'm a bank. What did it say at a note you know? Give me money any hand over the cash. I have the corona virus. If you don't give me money out of sneezing your direction then I'd give him the money right then I would just got off the ship. That's a different story. Yes well I don't know what the note said. I don't know if he said he had explosives on his body or something I don't know if he did not lead just not intimidating at all so we brought that up and now of course here come. The bank. Robson Bank robbery store is on the phones. I mean we. Nothing says this show in February the conversation boomer and I just had before he came back for break we'll look at the super spreader of the corona virus. Look at this guy. He's he's like a scout leader. We gotta talk about this then. He looks over. The phone says never mind. Let's go to the bank robbery. Phone Calls got eleven people say himself a super spreader shedder. Dr Steve had his way. Yes super shedder. Let's go to Vinnie. eastport Hello Vinny. Good Morning Hi How are you doing i. I'm upset The way you're talking about the bank tellers. I worked for Washington mutual and Chase Bank in Lyndon Harrison Okay and I was in the branch when a robbery card. And it's very upsetting situation for the teller and you gotta remember that. The teller is trained to comply with the The bank robber for her safety for the safety of the other employees and for the safety of the people in the branch. You know they're trained to do that. And I think if you're in a branch that was being rob you'd want to tell it to comply with his Rules rules and regulations listen Vinnie. All that makes sense and I understand but I'm just saying that this guy if he didn't have a weapon I would call his bluff and made me tell me that there's there's no way that's a bad. Don't follow protocol and you're gonNA screw yourself this. If this guy didn't have a weapon I felt like I was the teller and I could take and be like all right. Come around back. Take the money for me. I don't know that's all I'm saying. Yeah I can understand that but you gotta remember that it's your responsibility to Act as a representative of the bank. Thank and if he did have a gun and he turned around and shot you while you were trying to make a deposit at the ATM machine. I think you'd be a little upset. That the ION. Yeah they they they have Rules and regulations that they have to a bye-bye. There's no question about see I think if there's there's gotta be a judgment call there to you get a hero. I love when Ellie from east rockaway calls in 'cause she always has good stuff l. a.. Far Rockaway I'm sorry what's happened in Ellie boomer and Geo Oh yeah valley but going. Listen you guys are being you making the point that buys wearing a yankees cap and now they don't reform he'll be metcalf the next time he does as long as it goes his hearing is going to get some tickets training Zionist right Ellie. You're one hundred percent right. I can't he newhaven what's happening again all right so I was a division two college baseball player and I just wanted to tell you guys their motives behind these bank robberies. I actually robbed the bank myself in two thousand and twelve. I had labor surgery on my arm and that was in the middle of the OPIOID epidemic. So I got a guy from bridgeport who was telling me my pills at the time. And if you guys know bridgeport that's about the best area and he came to my house and I was not alone and he threatened my little brothers who were ten and eight eight years old at the time so I probably am the dumbest bank robber ever and the most I wrote. No I said sorry thank you and please. He's all in the same though. The lady still handed over the money the exact money I told her I needed. I paid back the bank robber I got caught within five minutes. I I did a quarter mile from from my house These were the police department. That that Got Me where kids that I grew up with and I was probably considered the dumbest and the meekest bank robber of all time. So wait can you explain the beginning part part of this again so there were you has a drug right you had to. You went and got money back pills my sophomore year of college. I tore my labor and the doctor to put me on pain pills and then you got addicted. I got addicted to pills. addiction progress from there and And so then when the addiction progress from there I was going into bridgeport to to get to get the harder stuff to get heroin because it was cheaper than the pills that couldn't afford anymore. Yeah and I was still playing at the time and I was still playing at an all American level and this was all going on no news behind. Everyone's back but the that guy was coming in my house. That was you know I gave gave him my address and and County are you where are you. Where are you now in your phone call junior? Yeah I'm seven years clean and I'm teaching baseball right now. I'm getting my masters degree at Fordham and The funny thing is I was wearing. I'm a huge huge diehard. Mets Fan and I was wearing a phillies cap. Just in case I got caught the phillies. I WanNa tell you that we're talking about. Nah I hear you man I mean I guess it's good that you can then everything's good with you now and you can go back. You laugh about this dark time in your life but yeah you went to the bank a quarter mile from your house. You wrote a note and Andro type the no duct tape duct tape my license plate play but like a quarter quarter mile from my house very very very small town. The cops know my car Within five minutes they were back at my house. I pretended to sleep but that they do tend to sleep. Did you have any sort of weapon when you were holding up. There's absolutely SELENA. No no no I would never intend to hurt someone. If they called my bluff I would just say okay and just walked out the door see now never intention no no intention of ever hurting anyone. That's what I'm saying about. This guy was getting away with this stuff in Rodney's banks Laura. Let's see I know I know it's it's I guess it's their policy. Yeah I don't know how much time did you do. I actually only served Four months in jail L.. Because of the circumstances and I had a pretty good lawyer. So yeah so now did you end up withdrawing from Go through withdrawal rather from heroin in jail in jail gail in jail it was. It was absolutely awful. Sounds like I was on the ground at sometimes like shaking. It was terrible I went from. I went from playing From Point College Baseball and within a month the being on the ground shaking a jail so quickly was you rock upon a moment you rebuilt from there though exactly. I haven't touched touch anything since then and you know the lucky thing is is you did not have a weapon on you. When you went into rob the the bank? That would have been armed robbery. That would have been a whole different situation. That was huge. It could have been a better offense here you know. You're lucky lucky. boomer wasn't the teller. Because he would've shot in thanks. I think he would have definitely bank teller. boomer is a scary scary all right well. Can I wanted to show that. Yeah yeah thanks for sharing a man. I mean it's but you have to also understand like we understand. Bank tellers have responsibilities and requirements. And they have to follow. Hello what their bank managers are telling them. We understand that yeah. We're just talking about this. One guy in Staten Island looks like get his ass kicked by anybody right. And if he's saying he doesn't have a we didn't say at all he had a weapon that I would call his bluff. I mean like okay. Let's see it sounds easy to say that here but in the moment and in the intensity of the moment I would the thing for the bank teller to follow regulations. Give the money away. Let the guy out. They'll catch him eventually. Like this guy. Kenny I don't know if they're going to be as Thomas. Kenny is but if they are doing this because they are drug addicts. They're not thinking clearly obviously away. Do you remember Robin. I don't remember exactly how long ago two thousand thirteen or so I really felt was the first time in in Long Island that we all became aware of this drug epidemic epidemic one. This couple went into the pharmacy out there. Patronized remember that yeah and then it was really like open season on the understanding understanding. Of what the Hell's going on out there in the streets and I had a buddy who's a former sheriff who was telling me that it was just horrific in. I don't necessarily know that has gotten any better but but yeah I mean. Those stories unfortunately are far too common. Those stories to get an addicted to painkillers going a heroin because it's cheaper and more easily accessible and then doing some horrible stuff to be able to get the money to do the drugs. I mean it's a it's a vicious cycle. It's Common Nicholas in Connecticut Nicholas. What's happening Kevin? Hey how's it going Nicholas. How're you doing I actually? I'm actually the senior vice president pence. USO says we're not supposed to talk about it But but thank robbery procedures. I just wanted to go over. Gio is saying you know you gotTa make a judgment call. It's GonNa be a hero I wouldn't be a hero hero. I mean we're trained by former FBI agents and everything on how to handle bank robberies. It's never a good idea to you. Know even think of being a hero somewhere touched on an earlier. You're you know a citizen can be shot in the lobby stuff like that But I've also had situations where I've had people followed home after the robber was taught by acquaintances of the robber and hostage situations can happen in their home. That's happened before You know people get tied up and held hostage Pasta General House as senior people of the bank. We're actually taught take different ways home everyday different routes from vehicles so we're not followed home so there's all kinds of things that could happen if you you know. Try to fight a bank robber. Money's insured by the government. FDI insured you guys know that so I mean you have the money like the other caller said you probably gonNA get caught and five minutes anyway. Yeah I mean it seems like that but aren't there so a lot of these banks they don't have like a security guard in there near sitting down like there's there's none of that right I mean to me it's like don't you don't you employee guy to Kinda just chill or something like that happens. I mean I don't know I just I would just hired a guy that kind of loitering there you know like what's Ted doing these days. He retired from the force. You know a couple of years ago. Sit in the bank for a few hours over in some some places in like Manhattan stuff do that. You know where it's more of a risk but like small towns. Usually these guys are drugs. Nine Times out of ten. You know the other guy said convicted. Some painkillers right. So you know they just WanNa get a fix they come in with a note You don't know if they have a weapon or not nine times out of ten you don't see a weapon Ah again you don't know if they have people outside waiting for the money you don't know if they have a bunch of people that are they going to go get your odds with them after a waiting outside somewhere or down the street as a lot of dessel. There's a lot of tentacles to this scenario puny guy. I'm thinking I can take. I mean you know what I'm saying there. Nick people uh-huh people walk into the bank. You know we see it all the time. Some people look like they. Are you know bombs. And they have ten million dollars accounts you guys know where all yours your. We're all the security guards. Are you drop a medicine avenue. Van Cleef in our pels and Etro and Laura Piano and all those places. Yeah Oh spices. Ring a bell to walk in. You GotTa look a certain way to get those extra rest perfectly and hair cloth and whatever designer sweater that you have on a design Lord. Staten Island is going on and Lauren high boomer and Gio high on so I don't want to downplay it 'cause it is really dangerous but I did work in a bank on. Staten Island for eight years to different banks and on one Saturday. I I was head teller. I was watching over my bank tellers and one of my bank tellers came over to me and and called me over and said can you please come here. And she had a note in her hand. Dan and the note said. Give me all your money now or I'll shoot so I look at this guy and he was like he kind of looked like the guy in the picture. It's not the same person but he was the smallest guy. It was a busy Saturday so I looked up the line full of people. So I'm like okay next. Please step down and the next person came out out in this guy just walked right out cold the blow in it worked and he probably went to the next branch or whatever the next bank down the block on my problem. Yeah right exactly forty eight. But he didn't rob is. We took a description with back on the tape to look through everything but I mean called his bluff. Everything worked out. I'll get in trouble the Lauren for break in protocol. No trouble. No one believed US like no one. Actually we had a note like wrote on in the back of the teller slightly one of the bank deposits. I mean why would they not believe you. I mean that's amazing. You know what Lauren. I guess you're not supposed to do that. According to the calls. But I mean that's awesome. You're you're not too cold. I probably wouldn't have done if I was there in. This downed branches guys going all over so now taking a whole bunch of this is like the fifth bank or something right. Ah Bouncing around a little scrawny bastard with a Yankee hat auto Yankee hat on. Yes unbelievable here. You got it you you got it so lawrence not my Staten Island Bank. You're not getting my like. She thinks whatever she said next. Yeah uh not the greatest. Staten Island Bank. deller I've like guys got I've got a gun. I'm going to shoot. She was like next. Take the withdrawal slip. We'll just get this guy. He's got around the bank over there. That is awesome that he had probably like meekly walkout. backout got like I guess it's not working death. This is going to be easy comic books now. In the morning show with boomer Esiason in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo so we just had a caller call up and say that he robbed the bank when he was in in a terrible part of his life Hughes Addicted to heroin needed. Some money said it was the dumbest bank robber of all time because of the situation situation he was in and now we have someone on the line who claims to be the COP who arrested him after. That robbery Brian in Connecticut joins US Alot Brine. Fine Good morning how you doing Nancy. You arrested that last guy that we had on. I will never forget that as long as as as soon as it started telling the story I it stopped me in my tracks but yeah I was actually there that wow so how. How long did it take you to figure out who the idiot was that Eh? Did the robbery. Well he had a distinctive vehicle. Okay we've done with them a couple of times over the years because you had a problem. I guess but this bank called like after they opened and Saddam was. Just you don't get a description like way and it's interesting cornell. Put his house and we will put him up in the garage and closing your generosity is she and it was. It was like the robbery. took place Wholesomeness like wow? That's unbelievable it was awesome guy so talented. Really care his pass this close. They have just terrible. Yeah no absolutely was telling the truth and he said he was pretending to sleep when you guys went in there like a federal. It'd be bulking in the house and you know it didn't take long. He's called on staffers cooperative. And I I haven't heard a lot of time like I said I'm tired album. Or did he end up on a decent path. That was just all day. O'Brien great workman. Thanks for checking in and enjoy your retirement tire man. I'm sure that you are GonNa be a great story for him. The Tower of course the other guy. Well he's talking to both sides because he seems like he has come out of it figured it out. Yeah that was the. It's almost like he needed that. You know because he was on such a terrible path they put him in jail. He was able to detox and jail as miserable. That was for him out. He's fine he's clean them. It'd be really hard to be a cop in that situation knowing that this guy is a drug addict and is doing this for to feed his addiction right. And that's got to be frustrating to a certain point but there's also going to be a level of compassion. You would imagine right sure. Well you heard. He said he was a really good guy. Just shows you what that stuff can do to you. I mean you would've shot him in the face of rules dollar you know what man I just. I just have no patience for. Take a look. This is a good story. Came out of this bank robbery. They got the money back. He's clean this cops got a funny story. The garage door was still the closing thought. He put the duct tape over his license. I'd love to know he wasn't going to say what type of car you had but I'd love to know what type of car that was. Very distinctive cars probably like a canary. Yellow pizzo. Yeah it'd be like me rob a bank with my orange car until tic TAC active drive around the van from dumb and dumber driving eighty-nine sheepdog Yup. Okay see low. What do you got for us all right? So we've been discussing cussing obviously baseball's potential new playoff format which by the way is a long ways. Away Twenty twenty two. They'd need approval from the Players Association. All that good stuff but it's something fun to talk about. At least it has been for us. I think all three of us have been intrigued by certain aspects of it absolutely for our in house. Baseball purists will one of them. There's a lot of them. Evan Roberts yesterday yesterday as he gets wind of the loser comes out of the five o'clock open and starts to detail they report and what encompasses what would be the new playoff format. You get his raw genuine reaction on the air with Kim yesterday but our favorite part is the plan. According to Joe is to have this all play out on a show on the Sunday night the regular season and ends and have representatives picking teams on live TV. Think the NC double A. Selection show but just with teams making selections. The rights of that show is part of the enticement took potential. TV partners. I think of it like the NBA lottery like you. Would you would hold up your selection and the Yankees choose. Choose to play and you would hold up. Yes you know. This is horrible. This is part of why I feel more emboldened by repeating that. Rob Manfred is quickly becoming the worst commissioner in Sports Court while this is a horrible idea to horrible idea. Not Happy. Didn't make that groaning noise underneath what was saying kind. Thank Joe Would have done. Had he been there. Yeah it sounds exactly what they grown a lot. Yeah that's Joe. What the hell are they doing? I don't know no groaning Bangor. Those Mary worked up about. Yeah there's a little bit the evidence in the back of that so you've got like the Joe. The Evan comes from working here ally those I been here for awhile. You tend to make a lot of crazy. Sounds and noises noises. I think so joe for sure ooh ooh Jerry. Ah He's doing at home right now with the flu. Balancing sounds like El Coco. Got A hold all the Jerry from you. Guys don't know that but from the outsider seldom possessed Jerry RECCO so anyway I'm getting I'm starting to. I think I'm settled coming over me. That's in your head yourself into. Yeah come on over the last hour. I'm telling you something happened robberies something avenue. I don't know now. Jerry did sit in that seat last week. Yeah I know I know. He's definitely shouting. And that's of course shedding happens not a fan after he got that out of the system and did put up a poll. You know they love the polls around here. Are you in favor of the new idea. And I don't side with any of the three options you have. Yes it's great. No Oh I don't like it or worst idea in history. I could've used a fourth option like I'M I. I'm okay with it. So worst idea in history is leading the way approaching nine two thousand votes at forty six percent so little hyperbole perhaps but there you have it. Did you guys read the twelve twelve. I guess we the power to Attack Vile Al Waleed really interesting say. Jj's wearing off on me all all right latest on the Knicks New York Post reports. Leon Roses Shortlist for head coaching candidates. Once he actually right. Well we're waiting on that but apparently you know behind back-channelling behind closed doors. They are compiling a list due diligence. Well he has to what he has been former clients. What's the word they say to get to not repeat the word when they back out divest? That's the divest himself representing all these these NBA types types of Tom. Thibodeau and Jeff Van Gundy on the last guy. I know you're itching to get to another call. Their tangible thing Mike in Belmar going on Mike. Yeah Hey what's going on. What's going on brother all right so we were talking about all these? Like robbery and stuff so I I guess it was going to go. I'm in a liquor store. Picking up my little six pack of beer and Just I walked in with a gun. I think he was gonna Lousy Okay because anyway he pulls out the gun. I wasted no time. I'm a lefty boom. You'll like that and I just clock them right in the tick tock knocking out there in like two minutes here hero. You're actually hopefully. Oh you got free beer for life now liquor store. Well Yeah I do know the guy and I look no. I think you're right. I walked in there and everybody wins. That's awesome man. I know that there's like all the bank people were getting all worked up about the protocol and this could happen. It could be a hostage situation. I still believe that you can make a judgment call on this spot alike Like lower from Staten Island. Did like this guy. Give me a break next ext or this guy did. Yeah okay. You're drunk bowel right in the face. ACT QUICKLY I can. I just say one thing here. If you're ever in this situation don't do anything stupid and please. I'm not going to be at home. I understand that that's not gonNa go to liquor stores and you would have bars and you go to banks and you do all the normal things that we all do. I would just is be smart and make a judgment call on. Can I take this guy. Can I not take you. GotTa you gotTa Wipe mother-in-law a daughter to dog parents parents you go to the minded minded because I think your mother in law has a big impact your life at my right. She's over a lot. Yeah so that's why I put her there. Yeah so I'm just thinking you got all these people around you gotta be solid GonNa make the right decision. I listen. I've I've made all the right decisions to get here. I'm just saying in in that particular situation I'll make a judgment call. Look if if sean got a knock out a robber. Knockout Iraq Sean. Avery Goes Kung Fu on somebody. It's one thing if you do nothing. You don't even like athletic like I don't ever pull a muscle will not I will fight. The ADRENALIN Reynolds will take over. And I'll be fine. Sometimes you got to step up. You're going to pull a cord muscle to go through. Causal leak talked out a robber and I got an oblique. And you're watching. It Happen Fund. You wanted to be more AL and Al to be more ask. Al Doesn't have as much to worry about. I guess the second floor of a Condo unit and he's looking out the window with binoculars right calling okay so you didn't tell us you were in Indiana last night. Apparently I was celebrating. I in Eagles Birthday. You weren't aware of this. Do you want one day. It probably don't touch the strawberry now. You want the struggle. I don't really eat fruit so you can have the strawberries. That's all you can have a wholesome the boomer thank you it. Was It boomer that baked these. This is amazing. I actually. I'm GONNA have that Vanilla Strawberry. It's got my Jim Ryan Eagle Joke. Happy Fifty I. I am by the way where the Pacers Mascot Indianapolis so fruit. Well I think that was a joke. Get the he's Pacers. Quinnipiac in the Pacers have the same color schemes. And they have the same mask us. That's a good point. Yeah look at you all all over my alma mater knowing the colors right there. That's a good point. That's a good point. Can we brought that up a little higher over my shoulder. All Right I've got Jerry over-one-shoulder can we put boomer in the Bond Canon Jerry six Jerry Influenza Age Aries Jerry Shedding Jerry. Yes and if you don't like the nets did beat the Pacers. One of six one zero five forty. He's not here right and better for me as well Spencer Answer Dinwiddie. Add the go ahead. Bucket in the final seconds not a high percentage look. It was a long too and he was really excited that it went down as soon as I second guessed it presented to be terrible in the game suited confidence the at the end of the game during the bed he was fired up on. Yes after the game very excited at twenty one and eleven assists thirteen of fifteen at the free throw line one of eight nets in double figures they got a rematch with the raptors. Tomorrow night in Brooklyn final game for both teams before the all-star Break Toronto is up to fifteen straight wins after besting the timber wolves last night. And how right on thirty seven. Twenty six guys okay Quickly before we get the moment of the day notable women's College hoops. You can't get beat up again. Last night they lose to South Carolina for the first time ever seventy two into So geno Auriemma Lady. Huskies have now lost three games by at least fifteen points points in the first twenty seven years. So yes as you might imagine. He was a little edgy. At the podium. After we'RE ALLOWED TO LOSE IT game once in a while where the other team plays better than us. So how about you write that somewhere. South Carolina played better than Connecticut. That's allowed to happen once in a while and it's not like what did you guys do wrong wrong. This lost they'll likely keeps them from being a one seed in the tournament. We're number one earlier. This season women are to believe right. So who gives it what it is were you are four five twelve seventeen twenty five. Who cares this year? The object is get through the season. Get in the NCAA tournament see what happens. They were like every other team in the country. God forbid back off back off shot like who is coming down on him. I like one writer. They're screaming at him. Or somehow I I guess they were more focusing too much on what they did wrong. Instead of what South Carolina did right. I got before WANNA dance. I squeeze in rockaway quickly and he go ahead. Hey what's up. They have a quick question. If you're going to be the guy that's in the middle of a royal that's GonNa stop it on robber. Maybe and you have to wake your wife up in the middle of the night because talks. We repaired no. Here's here's the here's the difference here. Here's the difference if I mean if I am in the bank. I can see who the WHO. The perpetrator is downstairs if someone was in the basement I don't know what they look like. I could have gone down there and it could have been a seven foot two weightlifter down there and I would need a weapon in my scenario if you were listening in my scenario I said I'm size. Is this guy up and I make a judgment call and by the way the reason I woke her up was I what I had. My head was my go downstairs and I'm over taken by this intruder and then this guy goes. It was up against the wife and a baby. That's not good so I had her stand at the top of the basement steps. You know ready to call somebody if there was somebody there. So that's why I thought that was a perfect way to handle it. Go down check it out with the weapon. Have the nine one one ready to go. We need it. I thought that was genius. She's going to call nine one one. You get overtaken. And somehow they're going to arrive. Arrive in the time takes the intruder to walk up the stairs. My Guys Nixon Foul Zone. Trust me they're always around always zone. CBS Pigs and fowls zone man they keep an eye on a half edn Ohio. What's going on? Hey how you doing. Good so Years ago I was a teller. I got I two handed. A note gave him the money that they required the emboldened bank robber went ahead and pulled down his pants and defecated in the bank. Thank lobby just went and then left the bank. Okay right overtake them. Yes it was a moment for people to go ahead and overtake them but they were all in shock shiner and And then my branch manager. He went ahead and put do not cross sign around the DNA right there. It's evident this guy must have been completely mentally ill right Ed. That mean is that a fair assumption. He was he was he had. It was actually worse than the guy that you were talking to. Well it was ridiculous so in San Francisco now without any worries thanks to the hold. Thank Robert I think that should just about about end that one. No I beat the capitals five three. They'll play the flyers devils in the panthers. Also the Rangers visiting Winnipeg. Let's get to moment of the day brought to you by Resorts World Casino in Queens with over sixty five hundred games. Were right next door. We had the gentleman. I'm in call up amidst all of the germ talk about his daughter's shoulder operation and how he saw the surgeon get out of his car in the parking lot in the full surgeon. Get up the scrubs the mask the gloves booties ladies all that obvious contamination boomer then accused him of being one of those at home dressed cycle home dresses like people who body conscious probably. That's what I don't know but they'd they'd rather get dressed at home then and locker room. I don't get that I'm telling you because their body conscious it's widely as you say a little nibble or something like that and then next thing you know I was a little nigger. That's what you said before. They got a little of what you call the spare tire small package. It's not a big package. It's a small package accu weather home home. That's exactly what it is saying dresser especially the pictures of you in front of that Ford Eh. Constrictor down there. They got the moment of the peanut man. Of course you don't understand his super ROIC PENIS. You don't get it. I don't understand why these guys are getting tested on the wool. Nimbly don't want anybody. See that little penises see journal right outside the Control Room. Just wait till this stuff starts hitting the loudspeaker we have an abnormally small penis mid Combo with Mexico. Imagine those who he's talking to you. I can't save Z.. But it's not it's not me it's someone similarly built to but it's a little nibbling tire spare tire whatever Mingo Lingo situation this little number there see you tomorrow you're in again. Jerry's he's got rutgers that was prescheduled Jerry's got flew flew rucker. I'll be playing tomorrow night. So right plan was yeah. I guess they're flying today. They normally on an airplane. They put him into ten and then he'll fly back get to the rack. Darn zoning this is the turning point rucker sees everything was great until Jerry infected the team gene in program history Jerry all of Geo Baker thirty for thirty. What if I told you one broadcast awed cast infected the greatest in rutgers basketball history? I look forward to texts from about four PM Wednesday Come in tomorrow. Yup Yup all right CEELO. We appreciate it as boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS sports network. Start the New Year with the best Internet deal yet. It was your word. Yeah I know I know little bits breath. 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