2 Burst results for "Ruth Calderon"
"ruth calderon" Discussed on Judaism Unbound
"That's perfectly possible, and so then the question is like, what do we do? Right? So my question is like wh- what would you encourage people to do with this liberating incredible set of possibilities of like oh? We have all these choices. What does somebody leading text study do with that? What is somebody reading do? What that? What somebody dislike looking to grow spiritually do without like what does it actually mean for people that are working with these texts? Just recently started. Down, with a weekly service. Led by rabbi, Niro, Rivera, and Rabbi Emily Cohen. If you, for example a person who's Connect to Judaism through ritual come to our rituals because all the prayers are in the female form. So old familiar prayers now are you you're going to stumble upon them and you're GonNa we hear them and so that's you know a way to do this kind of or have or or meets or patriarchal conditioning. It's a really good way to meet that. If you're person likely who likes to. Go deep into the tax take part in you know who likes to live in their. You know we're going to have many source sheets in different parts that you can start engaging and. Commentary, huge. So how what if learned from doing this is first of all, there's this big tree of story and it continued. Past Toronto Nathen to Christianity in Mormonism, and he's Lomb and other religions in Reno. Different than denominations it really comes to life with commentaries. Savannah additional stories So if you don't have patients to wait for me for us to do that, go ahead and do it. You know these stories are in public domain the belong to all of us, and if you feel inclined in WanNa, do go ahead and do it. You know if you need to hear this in throwing, go ahead and do it. It's our it's our stories. I wanted to ask you some questions about basically being an artist and how you approach this as an artist because in a way the part of why I'm so excited about this project is I've been fantasizing for years about this hypothetical artist who understands that the medium of art is Judaism itself. Right in other words, we think of an artist is somebody who's GonNa make him Nice Jewish somebody who's going to make some Nice Jewish paintings. When I talking about an artist I'm talking about somebody who comes and says my canvas or my paints is Judaism you know and but rather than seeing Judaism, the way that we're up and trained to see which is that basically Judaism is a piece of art that somebody else made and it's our job to either copy it very, very exactly like you almost think of a first year art students sitting in the museum and trying to. Trick trying to paint that exact picture. And it looks like a Rembrandt but it's not a rembrandt because Rembrandt the rembrandt you you just copied it, and in a way that that's kind of some version of that is how we're we're trained to imagine our relationship with Judaism and I think for a lot of us, that's not very exciting and so I've been talking about this this hypothetical artists that will come along and. Show us what it looks like when you take the material of Judaism itself and like you were saying earlier, know just naturally take it apart and put it back together years ago I talked to Ruth Calderon who we've had it in the show who runs a basically a tablet or a Jewish text study organization primarily focused on artists in Israel and I asked her why did You focus on artists and she said it's because you know I don't have to train an artist to do that taking part in putting back together. That's just what they do. So I have to do is teach them the text and then they're going to do interesting things with it. So I would love to hear how you reflect on that as an artist and the story of. Coming to this, and if you were trying to say to encourage people that were listening to this to come with that orientation to other elements of Judaism, how would you describe the artist's way in Judaism? So for me the only way to actually know something to make. I don't remember very well the only way for me to understand something is through making. I think the the description you you brought up, but the artist going to the museum to copy Rembrandt screamed because I've done a lot that even recently in whatever doing that is that I'm able by doing that is slipped my hand into the VINCIS hand. If I really followed closely his lines I can. Embody him. or his movement on the paper, I can really can really feel it. So and way children learn the fastest three mutation we learned through imitation as the greatest tool for learning. So I started asking civil case hallways is this done? So I was like, okay let me try and do it was like, okay. That's how it works. Commentary because we're so trained to receive it as like this monolithic thing, you can't touch, but we made it. Just ran into. This is a you know the precursor story for the flood is in the the epic of Gilgamesh, which is a much older. And one of the thing So it describes what what is brought into the. Family members and the CRAFTSMAN. The. Artists. They bring the artist in to the Chris. And that was dropped in the you know in the in the genesis for with the story, the artists are out. But if you go to any synagogue without the craftsman big this fleece civilised down without the you know the people who are make everything visualizing everything without the musicians that you don't have religion. Really you don't. There's nothing there what he's going to be left with who is GonNa be there to comment on anything in a seat also in texts for their texted I personally love, for example, the the texts where. They start to work on the crafted the building of the of the the Covenant. And more shackles on. Layla but are- daughters. Considered. Arunachal just to clarify the yes. The Tabernacle and lay means. But I, La the shadow of goddess daughter of my lights. This is the kind of mental space you need to start working on the different aspects of the Tabernacle. I feel when I read this text now I could feel my fingers. tickling. ooh Yes I'm right there right there with a text I know what this is. I. Know How to make that work. is fantastic or win more shah. Showed receives the tablets. The first set of tablets is made by lean. Right we you know. They said it's made out of stone, but they're kind of liking written from both sides. She takes him down there. No good. Clearly because the people are completely different space mental space these are probably undecipherable for those people they got a break, but then elohim tells more shot to scope them. She uses the word Sculpture Live within an what I'm right there with her I know what you'd facility means I know what's coming means how you do this kind of cutting projecting a piece of yourself into material I know how it feels I know what it means I. Know What she's doing there has she's projecting had been self into this work because it needs to come from the bottom. And when she goes up Elaine. Says I will write on the tablet but it's no it's more shallow rights on the tablet. So I know that to you know as an artist I know what these things mean from experience. Could never ever even dream to know any of this auto I would not even consider I'm part of that in any way at all bits selectmen we is that other person that's the difference that it's there's no, it's right in happening within my domain of experience. It's very scary for people I get it. You know I get it but the view is amazing if US amazing..
"ruth calderon" Discussed on Harry Potter and the Sacred Text
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And I wondered if you have any thoughts about that question of power and cannon, how can we look full modulate voices even within the canonical texts that we have? Well, there are hints of them. They show up, it's it's amazing how you can't keep certain voices down how you can't keep the voice of Deborah the judge down. You know it. I mean, it's remarkable that a thousand years or so before the common era, the major biblical figure, the major legal figure the major. Governmental military figure was a woman named Vora the honeybee who sapping aether palm tree and gave judgment to all of Israel and the same as the true with the story of HANA, which is at the beginning of the book of Samuel. And it's hard because there is a way in which those voices have been either stripped out or edited out, but sometimes they leave a trace and there's a whole field of scholarship in a whole field of writers out there who collect those footprints and who look in who tried to fill them out a little bit. One of the great examples is in Israeli writer by the name of Ruth Calderon who also is a member of Knesset member of the Israeli parliament which is amazing. But she wrote a number of books. One of them's called a bribe for one night in which she takes stories from the Thomas, and she lifts up the hints of the women's voices that are within them in terms them into new stories of themselves. They're they're really beautiful and really remarkable. But I also think that the work that is being done now is the. Work that will be will change things. We'll rock the shift the can on its axis forever. The more that we lift up those marginalized voices. Now, the more that our children will hear them as the voices of history. I love that idea of footprints in the text that there is always a story behind the text as always a contextual understanding which helps us see it brought a picture. And Scott. I also love the idea that even though the cannon is closed in some way, right. That time has passed the way we tell the story today actually can change the Konin as it goes forward. Like what you're saying about how we tell the stories. Now, as we look for more marginalized voices, the way we postulate onto children will mean that they receive at different cannon, even though the Texas the same. That's really cool. Scott, I'd love if you could talk just a little bit more about the conversation between rabbis and between rabbis over time. Can you tell us a little bit more about how that works and what does it look like on the page and wedded that tradition come from? Who who was the fest. Rabbi Stott commenting and writing it down. And then the next one to just just on the history would be really fabulous. Sure. I want to tell you the story of a person who story should be told a lot more whose name was knock monetize or really Moshe Ben, knock men, and he lived in Girona, which is on the border of modern day, Spain and modern day France in the middle ages, and he's famous for a lot of reasons. He was a poet and mystic, and it's and a scholar, and he is renowned in Jewish history. He wants actually had to defend the Thomason in Barcelona in front of the king of Aragon Peter of Aragon. And even though the Catholic sort of declared victory in that particular moment, it was pretty well understood that he had spoken so eloquently that he really wanted the argument Peter gun said something like, never have. I heard an incorrect idea explained so beautifully, but there is a. Remarkable figure really areas i-it incredibly learned. But she is one of the major commentators on the Tara on the fought what we call the five books of Moses with people know as Genesis exodus Leviticus numbers and Deuteronomy, and would he does he special because he's really the first of the commentators to create a conversation between other commentators, he shows up a century or two after the great granddaddies of bible commentary. A guy named Rashi and a guy named Ibanez rga. Now, these are all nicknames that we have for them, raw. She lived in France and even as relived in North Africa. And even though the two of them, I think knew about each other. They don't reference each other, but the way that Rome Bonn knock monitors begins, his commentary is I heard it been as research this or Rashi teaches us, and then. He begins to talk about them and what he does, even though there are centuries between them, he creates a conversation between three rabbis. We didn't know each other in real life. That's so awesome. Scott. One of the things that we've seen a lot of fans do engaging cannon is to create that own stories. You know, Stephanie wholesale who's a friend of the cost talks about a text is sacred when it's a generative text. And so the kind of the mass levels of fan fiction writing that is out that speaks to that in some way with with the politics and of goals. No text has been more generative than the bible, whether it's music will poetry. All fiction. An I wondered if there's any aspects of writing that you've seen as a sacred practice, particularly when it comes to responding to a canonical texts like this. Yeah, that is, I think really one of the most important questions of our time is trying to innovate within traditions that we don't want to leave behind even as we stepped forward. Yeah, and to have very different, very new. World. But the one thing I can say actually to flip it on its head that doesn't make for spiritual writing writing is giving your opinion about whether you like or dislike, what's in front of you telling whether or not you like the Harry Potter book that's not spiritual writing, taking one word from any of the books and spinning new world out of it that spiritual writing. I mean, that's what you told us to do with day some. We have loved imagining walking through the kind of the OJ did of the tag. That's so great par days the orchard. Exactly, exactly. We remember we will get students Scott. I, I want to say a huge. Thank you for traveling with us through the books and travelling with us through history to think about questions of canon and legitimacy and boundaries and sacred texts in a whole new way. So is that anything else you'd want us to know before we bring our compensation to a close? Just how much I love being on the show. It's. Oh, fun to be back. I wish you all. Well, thank you so much for having me. Thank you, Scott. You're the best lots of love. Hi guys calling in from post op healing here, a huge things to nearly headless Nick for stepping in. I really think you did me proud. Please follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook, and leave us a review on itunes. We've launched our second pilgrimage through common ground, our pilgrimage sub organization, and it's going to be reading Little Women and talking about writing and concord, Massachusetts, October eleventh. Through fourteenth, you can learn more about it at reading and walking with dot com. Next week, we will be reading chapter thirty one, the third tasks through the theme of kindness. This episode was produced by nearly headless Nick Arianna Nedal men, casper, Kyle, and even a soul tan. I music is by pies how Nicole and we are part of the panoply network. You can find ours and other great shows on panoply FM a huge, huge thing. He this week to Scott Pirlo flurry Stevens, Kate McManus. Talia are not ever Resnick day and as always Rebecca Ledley, Julia RG. Stephanie. Also, we'll talk to you next week. Now is this, is this the same guy, my monetize or he's different guy? No, that's why there's actually like a different people. And my monitors like took the like the prize, like not wanted us never gets the credit because, oh, that's due him because it was more abor poor enough Mondays. Mondays.