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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

06:12 min | 2 months ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"Kids That's a Bloomberg business flash Bloomberg markets continues now with all and max Do you know what's cool about you know the founder of puma was No Rudolf dassler his brother won Adi dassler founded a rival Shoe company I always think it's very cool Adidas are obviously founded of Adi das and his brother Rudolph founded puma All right now let's get back to the markets Tom palm president and chief investment officer at plum funds joins us on the phone from Madison Wisconsin what a great town And he's a portfolio manager there The plum balanced fun Tom we are today is not the I guess the worst day to be an equity investor we're up again to 45 85 right now so hovering near record high on the S&P 500 Even though we're all worried about supply chains and labor shortages and inflation what gives Well it is interesting because the earnings are coming up and right now we've had basically over half of the market cap of the S&P has reported There are three things that are really emerging as trends With 75% of the company's beating their projections growth stocks have been beating on revenue by 2018 versus 12 so far But value stocks have been beating on earnings growth 40% really compared about low 20s for typical growth stock So in other words the cyclical economy cyclical growth is being beating secular growth in terms of earnings growth and in stock performance So we're seeing this despite these issues that you just mentioned as really a tale of which companies are dealing with the supply chain disruptions and the cost inflation If there is beating and doing well they're getting rewarded but if they do a bad job man they're getting punished Tom how long is this cyclical play work I think a lot of investors it's been a long time since value has been a good performance It's been a long time since small cap And a lot of investors are just unsure how long this cycle lasts How do you think about that This is there's a very strong possibility that this is just a blip because we have had in the last 12 years to different periods of time when the value stocks have outperformed I think once we start to get to tougher comparisons once we overlap the pandemic we're going to start to look again at which companies are true leaders and our combining both cyclical growth with these really powerful digital growth trends that we've been seeing for the last dozen years So in terms of if I have new money to put to work is it is now a time to still put it in equities Is there any other game in town It is very difficult Managing a balance fund we look at bonds also and of course with interest rates at these levels and the talk that the fed is going to start to end their tapering So we'll start to see pressure on interest rates It makes you a little bit cautious about what types of fixed income items to own You've had an incredible spike in some commodity prices but we've also seen those show some signs of topping So for us it looks like good quality common stocks They're still there They're hitting new records makes people anxious But I started out when the S&P was about 70 So 7 zero 45 times higher We've hit lots of new heights Tom how about energy you mentioned commodities and you've got WTI crude at north of $82 a share How do you think about energy stocks here They are so depressed I mean again back in the early 80s they were 35% in the S&P and other the last year they bottomed out at about three So there is a possibility they could still run for a while But obviously there's some real alternatives and the political pressure on them So we've been cautious We haven't been playing that because we think that there's a fair possibility that once supply and demand get a little bit more aligned that there's still going to be those political pressures on energy stocks Is supply and demand starting to get more aligned now I talked to Herbert DCO Volkswagen this morning he said month after month it's finally starting to get better with chips We heard the same from Stellantis and Mary Barra Is that is there an end in sight to these problems Well it's going to be like the pandemic It's going to be something that's going to be volatile and move both both ways But yes it is the trend is going to speed towards getting an alignment between supply and demand and that will reduce some of these price pressures Hey Tom thanks so much for joining us We always appreciate getting a few minutes of your time Tom plum president and chief investment officer of the plumb funds joining us on a phone from Madison Wisconsin And again strong strong move here to the market We have the S&P up about a tenth of 1% NASDAQ up up almost one full percentage point So you're Addison Yeah What's that You ever been to Madison I have great town great town What a town I loved every minute of my time there Big big there's actually a big big money institutional investor money in Madison strong funds which is now part of I guess Wells Fargo the Wisconsin investment board lots of reasons ago to Madison I was just hanging out with college kids I was in college This was all business for me going into the mid Midwest All right right now let's.

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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

09:32 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"We should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely ends as this stuff is happening adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town he says when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you are promoters and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town to be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body here's how deep it went this is something I found that I only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact of quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between audion Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker when he was a big deal and then in the eighties and the nineties and so just to just to as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and member that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carved those respective tombstones on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six Reese called his little brother eight off to his side and the did not squash the beef as far as we know it off himself expired four years later he was seventy eight then I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate semesters options I the town that seems to be not quite right they just make sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unrelenting hatred so they did it on purpose you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property a weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's really never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded adidas and puma as in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life how many says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't toward easily bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus proven the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so on he always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished yet he banished and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a G. does France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen docile those older son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so our main finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the US market which is father had forbidden him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold creek manor yeah well after all this bad blood and bitter familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right then that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story now on the on the pitch yeah maybe what lay it on the road well I did the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which shows September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so and then this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yeah feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA lights yeah you know the interesting pattern and it makes.

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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

04:39 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on WGN Radio

"Man a lorry mama Steppenwolf welcome back everybody Nick the Giulio here on seven twenty WGN we've been talking about sibling rivalries here and if you want to jump in we love to hear from you talk text three one two nine eight one seven two hundred so we got we're turning down and her brother Christopher Ciccone name they were close until the they they stopped speaking right before his two thousand eight memoir of life with my sister Madonna hit the shelves the book details infinite for in in in intimate information about Madonna's ex husband kids in career among other things that didn't sit too well with Madonna Madonna Christopher continued not speaking for another five or six years but reportedly we're back to being brother and sister as Christopher told the Huffington post in two thousand twelve however in two thousand seventeen the feud was reignited after Christopher claim to Madonna had blacklisted him from Hollywood calling her a **** rific Christopher is one of seven of Madonna's siblings according to the guardian there's tension between the pop star and brother Anthony as well seven kids that's a lot that's a lot to handle yes it is I wonder if I do I do you know off the top of your head she's like the youngest I died no no I don't think she's the youngest I think she might be in the middle yeah I can see that though the middle child like trying to us something yeah all attention the other thing is if she is the youngest and also make sense you know I mean because of her baby yeah yeah it's usually the middle child and the and the baby especially in a big family like that yeah when it's you know when it's only maybe three it's old it's usually just the middle child one of us just one here here all of a man I fall in the old this category yeah you've got a you've got older child problems yeah middle child brown's got baby problems you know it's funny because that we there is I guess there is an error the national only child day yeah and we talk about it there is because we we talk about on a when it is but we talk about on the air and it's weird how it's like a it's like a club you don't I'm saying it's a totally different life we shared they'd like we understand that there's something on spoken that we understand when World War only when when we when I'm in a room with another only child we can start talking a little bit maybe about personal experiences and you immediately get the US on yep uhhuh and it's weird because I also belong to a club called the left handers because I'm a lefty so I'm a left handed only child so I'm I'm that's why I'm weird I think you're like the unicorn yeah I'm like a unicorn I'm a left handed only child too weird to live to rate I'd want to god's own prototypes man real quickly Cleopatra said to have had a hand in the deaths of three of her siblings and one Hollywood movie eight a yeah eight often Rudolf Dassler is feud resulted in two separate shoots through brands there's it resulted in Addison poma like they hated each other so that you started they out there the other same thing with the all the brothers of the all the brothers right yeah the former oasis bandmembers Liam and Noel Gallagher's rivalry ended with the brothers up in court best one if you ask me yeah so there you go sibling rivalry everybody I don't have to worry about that that's that's it there's something right there I deal with it literally every day of my life my youngest brother coming back from Europe he's gonna be staying with me for two weeks a man how is that going to go for you hopefully well because he and I have a better we're more bodies that me and my middle brother we're all like good you know we're not fighting or anything but me and have a special sort of early years of your younger brother yeah my youngest brother he's youngest baby so and I'm the oldest so we got a little little better ship okay listen we're gonna take a break and when we come back we're going to talk about movies that ended careers it happens it happens a lot you're a great actor great actress suddenly they make a moving it's like yeah by a movie so bad that tank so terribly that was so awful the end your career so give us a call if you want to jump in the us on this one three one two nine eight one seven two hundred on WGN okay let's take a break and we'll jump into it after this.

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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

09:28 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"Should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely ends as this stuff is happening adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the bent next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town he says when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote person and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town to be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on buddy here's a deeper when this is something I found they only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it was focused on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just just as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and member that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carves those respective tombstone on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it often self expired four years later he was seventy eight then I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier there were separate cemeteries options are the town that seems to be not right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from us possible symbolically as to telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose do you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I cannot now like I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did that I was reading the advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's really never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded adidas and puma as in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life how many says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and AV maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers had the Tories Lee bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called adidas France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives ends he was going crazy because he saw his cousin Horst succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improvement factory there and then he started selling shoes on the US market which is father had forbidden him to do and weigh in room he died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's coal grief man yeah well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right and that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story now on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well and then the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compare diplomas nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy that's just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that well indeed as maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where it was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes I feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pump you know number though LA lights yeah he's an.

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

09:30 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"Should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely ends as this stuff is happening adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town he says when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote person and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town can be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body is a jeep to win this is something I found they only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called U. S. blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design this is just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it was focused on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker you've heard when he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just just as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet Ben what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and member that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tomb stone carvers carved those respective tombstone on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six called his little brother eight off to his side and the did not squash the beef as far as we know it often self expired four years later he was seventy eight then I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier there were separate semesters options are the town that seems to be not quite right they just make sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose do you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts in the history of the world if not the most right conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded a decent poem as in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara Smith and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life many says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers had the Tories Lee bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members SO Audie always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a G. does France that rivaled the rest of the details but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improvement factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had forbidden him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold creek manor yeah well after all this bad blood and bitter familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right and that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story on the on the pitch yeah maybe what lay it on the road well and then the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this this really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy that's just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yeah and feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA lights yeah he's an interesting pattern and it.

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

09:20 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"Other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely and as this stuff is happening. adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname no yeah the the bent next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town the sauce when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote first and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town to be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body is a jeep when this is something I found they only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called U. S. blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design this is just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker. you've heard of him he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just just as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and and he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and number that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carves those respective tombstones on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six. east called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it all himself expired four years later he was seventy eight Ben I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate cemeteries options I the town that seems to be not quite right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from other as possible symbolically as the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose do you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property a weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts in the history of the world if not the most right conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers. did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are in cans that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded the this improvement in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life I'm Anne says this. the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here. we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't Tory sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this. adidas versus proven the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished mmhm yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a G. does France that rivaled the rest of the details but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improvement factory there and then he started selling shoes on the US market which is father had beaten him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold creek manor yeah. well after all this bad blood and bitter familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right then that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well and then the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand hair so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then there's this was really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet. and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while adidas maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where it was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA lights yeah. you know he's an interesting pattern and. it.

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"To justify widespread clinical use a report says fans of air pods are willing to spend big Bucks to replace them Wall Street journal says about five to seven percent of total Air pod sales are for replacement pairs earpods generate around ten million in sales for apple so that means replacement sales are in the five hundred to seven hundred million dollar range tech report Larry Olson NBC news radio. first station exclusively devoted to podcasts and podcast discovery the I heart podcast. we should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely and as this stuff is happening. adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town the sauce when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote person and they were promised you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town can be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying any easy right you can just look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body here's how deep the winter this is something I found they only found this one place so I I hope it's true but a I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blogs that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design. just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focused on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between audion Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker when he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just just as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and number that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carved those respective tombstones on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six. east called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it all himself expired four years later he was seventy eight Ben I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier there were separate semesters options I the town that seems to be not quite right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from other as possible symbolically as to telegraph writes symbolically representing their unrelenting hatred so they did it on purpose you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts in the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers. did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded the this improvement in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life I'm Anne says this. the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here. we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't Tory sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus proven the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished. yet he bearish and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a Judas France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to souls bird to run improvement factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had beaten him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold grief man yeah. well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right then that make this somewhere in the end zone of the story now on the on the pitch yeah maybe what lay it on the road well under the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which shows September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet. and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy that's just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA light yeah. he's an interesting pattern and. it.

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09:30 min | 2 years ago

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"We should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely and as this stuff is happening. adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town he says when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promoters and they were promised you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town to be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body here's a jeep to win this is something I felt they only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that that will come and play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called duets blogs that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design. just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between audion Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker when he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just to just to as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and number that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carves those respective tombstones on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the Dawson brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six. east called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it off himself expired four years later he was seventy eight and I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier there were separate semesters options I the town that seems to be not quite right they just make sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to telegraph writes symbolically representing their unrelenting hatred so they did it on purpose you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts in the history of the world if not the most right conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers. did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded indeed is improvements in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life how many says this. the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here. we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't Tory sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this. adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished. yet he banished and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a D. does France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das lower those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so our main finally exiled himself to souls bird to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the US market which is father had beaten him to do and weigh in room he died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold grief man yeah. well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right then that make this somewhere in the end zone of the story on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well under the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet. and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's the legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that well indeed as maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes I feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA light yeah. he's an interesting pattern and. it.

sixteen years sixty years four years one day
"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

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09:31 min | 2 years ago

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"We should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely ends as this stuff is happening. adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town the sauce when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you are promoters and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town can be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body here's a deeper when this is something I found that I only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design. just you know one one straight better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ADI and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker you've heard when he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just to just to as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and and he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and a number that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carves those respective tombstone on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six. east called his little brother eight off to his side and the did not squash the beef as far as we know it off himself expired four years later he was seventy eight then I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate cemeteries opposite the town that seems to be not quite right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers. did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded indeed is infamous in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life many says this. the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began wow so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here. we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't tore usually bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished mmhm yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a Judas France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen tonsillar those older son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so our main finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improvement factory there and then he started selling shoes on the US market which is father had beaten him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's coal grief man yeah. well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right then that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story now on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well and then the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet. and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA lights yeah. you know the interesting pattern and. it.

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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

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09:30 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"Should also mention I think we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely and as this stuff is happening adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town he says when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote person and they were Pumas you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry in such a small town to be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team you're on body here's a deeper when this is something I found they only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made a four striped design just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker you've heard when he was a big deal and then in the eighties and the nineties and so just just as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what is that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and number that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tomb stone carvers carved those respective tombstone on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the Dawson brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it all himself expired four years later he was seventy eight Ben I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate cemeteries options I the town that seems to be not quite right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from us possible symbolically as to the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose do you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded adidas and puma as in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life I'm Anne says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't Tory sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so on he always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished mmhm yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called adidas France that rivaled the rest of the details but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improvement factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had beaten him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's coal grief man yeah well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right then that make this somewhere in the end zone of the story now on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well and then the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to prom is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy that's just carried over from the old doppler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pump you know number though LA lights yeah he's an interesting pattern and it.

sixteen years sixty years four years one day
"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

09:30 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"Should also mention I do we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely ends as this stuff is happening adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town he says when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote person and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry is such a small town can be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team here on buddy is a jeep to win this is something I found Ellie found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focused on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between audion Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris back when he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just to just to as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and member that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carved those respective tombstone on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the Dawson brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it off himself expired four years later he was seventy eight then I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate cemeteries options I the town that seems to be not quite right they just make sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers purportedly never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded a dozen Pumas in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life I'm Anne says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began wow so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers had the Tories Lee bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus proven the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished yet he banished and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called adidas France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen tonsillar those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had beaten him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold grief man yeah well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right and that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well under the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand hair so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes I feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pump you know number though LA lights yeah he's an interesting pattern and it makes.

sixteen years sixty years four years one day
"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

09:31 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"We should also mention a thing we talked about this a little bit off there the entire time this story is taking place like since forty eight they are suing the pants off each other right or trying to I mean pretty much just a nonstop torrent of lawsuits and I don't know if you were able to find anything specific banner any specific documentation but I would conjecture I would hazard a guess that a lot of it was around Rudy possibly making some of these designs from his clearly more sneaker headed brother ID yeah absolutely and as this stuff is happening adidas and puma are both growing as companies the town is getting further and further and further divided it becomes known as did you see this nickname now yeah the the BET next yes the town of bint necks because according to this story if you were walking around town the sauce when you didn't know you would look at their shoes before you decided whether to talk to them if you were promote person and they were clueless you're in yeah that is just crazy how it's such a specific industry it's such a small town can be divided so and have such a very interesting way of identifying an easy right you get a look at the other person's shoes and say I know what team here on buddy here's a jeep to win this is something I found I only found this one place so I I hope it's true break I can confirm yet apparently each side had the room to stone carvers yeah that that will come into play a little bit later yes I did find an article on a a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design just you know one one stride better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focused on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris back you've heard when he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just just as a you know active here one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet been what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it that is what that means and member that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carved those respective tombstone on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the Dawson brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six called his little brother eight off to his side and they did not squash the beef as far as we know it off himself expired four years later he was seventy eight Ben I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier there were separate cemeteries options are the town that seems to be not quite right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unrelenting hatred so they did it on purpose you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most right conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's really never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded the this improvement in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by Barbara estimate and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life I'm Anne says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers had the Tories sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus proven the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a G. does France that rivaled the rest of the details but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so our main finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had beaten him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's coal grief man yeah well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right and that may have this somewhere in the end zone of the story on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well and then the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to promise nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yeah feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA light yeah yeah he's an interesting pattern and it makes me.

sixteen years sixty years four years one day
"rudolf dassler" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

08:27 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Posted by Ben Boland and nor brown I did find an article on a blog called US blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact that's quibbling over that free stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design just you know one one straight better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker you've heard of him he was a big deal in the in the eighties and the nineties and so just to just to as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet Ben what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and member that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tombstone carvers carved those respective tombstones on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the Dawson brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six east called his little brother eight off to his side and the did not squash the beef as far as we know it off himself expired four years later he was seventy eight Ben I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate semesters obvious I the town that seems to be not quite right they just make sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unrelenting hatred so they did it on purpose can you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property a weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts and the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded adidas and puma as in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by barbarous cement and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life how many says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't Tory sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members SO Audie always fought with his son and heir a guy named worst dos slur and eventually banished him to France banished mmhm yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a G. does France that rivaled the rest of adidas but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur as his oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives ends he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to souls bird to run improve the factory that crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so Armen finally exiled himself to souls bird to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had forbidden him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold grief man yeah well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right and that maybe is somewhere in the end zone of this story now on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well the the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand hair so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like you same bolts was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old Dassler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while I do this maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public could you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yes feel a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA lights yeah he he's interesting pattern and it makes me think that we found a crazy piece of history that a lot of people don't know if you are listening to this gosh I hope someone out here is your listing this you're wearing adidas and Thomas if you just or puma's I don't know how you'd where I guess one.

Ben Boland sixteen years sixty years four years one day
"rudolf dassler" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

08:20 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Radio posted by Ben Boland and old brown I did find an article on a a blog called duets blog that deals with the intersection of creativity and the law and it talks about how a lot of the lawsuits between puma and ideas were in fact that's quibbling over that three stripe design you mentioned earlier and went into apparently puma in a burst of creativity made it a four striped design just you know one one straight better in the mind of in the mind of Rudy not to mention the fact that we we we we talked about earlier how there was this it focus on getting these athletes to endorse these products right and that continued and became a game of one upsmanship between ID and Rudy as their respective companies kind of started to gain steam on their own and this continued on throughout the years when ID actually turned down the idea of sponsoring this young up and coming tennis player by the name of Boris Becker you've heard of him he was a big deal in the in the eighties and and then nineties and so just to just to as a you know active pier one upsmanship Rudy signed him not because he thought he was awesome or he saw any promise and then he does want to piss off his brother and this is from a fantastic article in the telegraph called adidas and puma bury the hatchet after sixty years of brothers feud what they're the hatchet Ben what does that mean it means that the brothers died that's what it means that is what that means and a number that that tombstone carver you were talking about well those respective tomb stone carvers carved those respective tombstones on polar opposite sides of the town yes that's correct Rudi Dassler the elder the docile brothers died on October twenty seventh nineteen seventy four of lung cancer he was seventy six the priest called his little brother eight off to his side and the did not squash the beef as far as we know it often self expired four years later he was seventy eight Ben I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier there were separate semesters obvious I the town that seems to be no quite right they just made sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unending hatred so they did it on purpose can you imagine a deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property a weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts in the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did that I was reading the advice article that the brothers did Lee never spoke to each other again but then there and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's really never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded a dozen Pumas in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by barbarous Smit and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life many says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers had Natori sleep bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus puma the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members SO Audie always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called a G. does France that rivaled the rest of the details but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those oldest son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so our main finally exiled himself to Salzburg to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had forbidden him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written out of the will that's cold grief man yeah well after all this bad blood and later familial feuding surely there's a silver lining here somewhere right and that maybe is somewhere in the end zone of the story on the on the pitch yeah maybe with a late on the road well the the two companies do still exist in that same tiny town of twenty five thousand here so try to pronounce again because I don't have it in front of me but in two thousand nine the company is kind of put their differences aside and then this this was a really brutal history of one upsmanship aside and stepped out to play a friendly soccer game or as the Europeans college football and it was to support the peace one day organization which chose September twenty first of two thousand nine as the first I believe of an annual day of nonviolence so but in this article in the telegraph ends with the very knowing little kicker line quote but despite the friendly handshakes those who know the townspeople say it will take more than one game of soccer to bury the hatchet and in business terms adidas if you just look at the numbers is by far the larger company I think two thousand nine at thirty nine thousand employees compared to poem is nine thousand but puma says they're not hurting they have a great reputation for getting the endorsement of world famous athletes like Usain bolt's was one of the one of the more recent ones and that's a legacy this just carried over from the old ostler brothers days so very very forward thinking and I did read somewhere that while adidas maybe wasn't the first custom sneaker company they were the first to like Manton mass produce and sell them to the public if you make a custom sneaker designed for an athlete there was a time where was literally a custom product designed for an individual now these custom products people want them on their feet even though they are not Hussein bolt even though they're not Michael Jordan you know yeah I'm still a little bit closer to their heroes yeah like Reebok pumps you know number though LA lights yeah it's an interesting pattern and it makes me think that we found a crazy piece of history that a lot of people don't know if you are listening to this gosh I hope someone out here is listing this you're wearing adidas and commerce if you just work from us I don't know how you'd where I guess one a one foot one on the other I look ridiculous.

Ben Boland sixteen years sixty years four years one foot one day
"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

02:09 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Feud for ever change the business of sports by barbarous Smit and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life how many says this the relation to my brother was ideal from nineteen twenty four till nineteen thirty three then his young wife tried to interfere in business matters although she with her sixteen years had no experience at all and the warfare began while so it was probably a situation where he said I hate your wife yeah okay Yoko Beatles kind of situation and may be maybe that's the the needle in the conflict haystack here we do know that the feud carried on to later generations and the brothers hadn't toward easily bad relationships with their children as well I was reading a pretty interesting article in the guardian that talked about this adidas versus proven the bitter rivalry that runs and runs and in this they explore the problems that the brothers had almost universally relating to family members so already always fought with his son and heir a guy named Horst Dassler and eventually banished him to France banished mmhm yeah he bears and work in a shoe factory that was failing losing a ton of money he turned it into a money maker that he built a thing called adidas France that rivaled the rest of the details but it was a good enough for his dad and Rudy over a poem a had a son named Armen das slur those older son and heir he routinely made fun of him in front of other company executives and he was going crazy because he saw his cousin horse succeeding at adidas so our main finally exiled himself to souls bird to run improve the factory there and then he started selling shoes on the U. S. market which is father had forbidden him to do and when Rudy died in nineteen seventy four his oldest son was startled to learn he had been written.

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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

01:31 min | 2 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Not squash the beef as far as we know it often self expired four years later he was seventy eight and I I want to correct myself here I think I said earlier they were separate semesters options are the town that seems to be not quite right they just make sure that in the town cemetery they were as far away from the other as possible symbolically as to the telegraph writes symbolically representing their unrelenting hatred so they did it on purpose can you imagine the deathbed conversation man yeah and I I I I can not now I cannot and I cannot imagine I mean the the circumstances were pretty insane you're talking about a lot of money a lot of intellectual property weird power dynamic weird familial relations not to mention being in the heart of one of the most brutal conflicts in the history of the world if not the most radical conflict in history of the world so you know lots lots of factors at play here but I did I was reading the advice article that the brothers purportedly never spoke to each other again but then there are and get hands that maybe they did here and there from time to time throughout their lives but it's certainly never a smooth things over but there's a really good quote from a book called sneaker wars the enemy brothers who founded the deed is infamous in the family feud for ever change the business of sports by barbarous Smit and it is a quote from Rudolf Dassler much later in his life how many says.

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"rudolf dassler" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

05:37 min | 3 years ago

"rudolf dassler" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Second World War two German firms headed by the two destler. Brothers further transformed the trainer by using cutting edge materials, including plastics, and by harnessing the power of television. So first of all the two brothers. What the companies how do they do that? Well, the decibel there's been in business since one thousand nine hundred ninety s when they're established a sports shoe factory in hurt. So which is a small town in Bavaria. And during the nineteen thirties, there'd become one of Germany's leading manufacturers after the war. The two brothers had a bitter argument, and they fell out and in nineteen forty eight their business in two so the older brother Rudolf Dassler, he called his new firm Puma, Adolf the younger brother or Addy Tusla he formed Alida now after this kind of personal family rivalry between. The two brothers spurred the development of sports shoes to new heights and in the fifties and sixties both firms worked with German chemical firms which had been world leaders since the nineteenth century in in the nineteen thirties have begun to produce synthetic. Rubbers and plastics and both firms were quick to incorporate these new materials into their shoes kind of as a way to appeal to the athletic consumers who are buying their shoes. There was a almost a war of innovation between them as they develop new technical devices, many of which were made out of plastic. And now these new materials this competition between the two brothers also spurred on the rest of the industry, and you see other manufacturers kind of quickly trying to keep up with them and copy what they're doing and across the industry. You see this adoption of new technologies new materials got here this Catholic from dusk. Which if you look through this in the this is a Catholic from the nineteen sixties. And if you look through it, you see that there is text which outlines all of these innovations in these technical devices, which are designed to aid athletic performance. The person who was perhaps not a sportsman who is looking at it or someone who wasn't familiar with the brand the thing or properly power most is that all of these shoes on them three stripes. So this is perhaps the most significant contribution tissue design. If you like is that both of these firms quickly developed visual branding devices that they applied to the side effects shoes. So I did ask us three stripes in the late nineteen forties and Puma had what it called the form strip which is a curved stripes that wraps from the ball of the foot round to the hill. The effect of these was to transform media coverage into free advertising. So whether it was magazine or a newspaper picture or television coverage later in the sixties as televised sport became very big. If an athlete shoes were visible, it was instantly. And obviously apparent who they were made by the success of this this tactic that they device can be seen by the speed with which rival firms. Adopt. Not only the kind of technical devices that they were doing, but also they start creating their own Br. Branding devices that they apply to the size of shoes. So by the late nineteen sixties almost all shoes have some sort of stripe. Poor Swu short take Kamarck on the side of them. And it all started because of a row between two brothers. If you like this this this this advance this advance. I think it's the split between the two brothers. They had their heritage of they had been pioneers of developing sports shoes as a partnership in the nineteen thirties, but the split in the nineteen forties. And then this creation of two firms really pushes the development of the sports you and it happens in the context of sport becoming a major televised spectacle and a major kind of mass industry and thanks to the power of media. The is became not just cool, but even collectible and there's even a specific word for person obsessed with trainers sneaker ahead, but Georgia is interesting to compare some of the most collectible and most expensive shoes at the start of both the twentieth and twenty first century, respectively, isn't it so? Traditionally the collectible shoes would be winning shoes because those are seen as really the top of innovation very often having quite expensive materials and very famous makers one of these is European Cooney at the beginning of the twentieth century. Of course, young Tony would spend sometimes months in producing extremely well crafted, boots and other types of footwear. Sometimes even using a rare bird's feathers. Everyone knows also the brunt Ferragamo the conference that started in one thousand nine hundred ninety s and in Hollywood naughty Nikolay, eventually went back to Italy being Italian of origin and developing its own image and its own brand. But you see there the start of a connection between celebrity and footwear. And this is something that continues to the present in a very different form. And that's where the sports show with the sneaker comes into play. Because today we see sports shoes as collectible items. And so if you go online, and you checked prices, and some of the limited editions that produce for very well known brands, you will have to spend thousands of dollars thousands of US dollars up to twenty thousand dollars for a pair of limited edition, probably made in one hundred pieces and very often released only in various. Civic location just in Europe or just in China just in courier or perhaps in North America. So we realized Thomas now that the trainer has basically stopped being purely functional and is become an aesthetically admired product at. What point? Would you say that that really happened? I think that you see a move towards the sports you becoming a designed object..

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