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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"rube foster" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Baseball at that time. I think one. The things i did did struggle with and realize those finding Good inaccurate documentation of negro league games and barnstorming gains at the time I found you know there was definitely a lot of advertising. You know come. Satchel page to kenosha wisconsin or whatever. Those are great But then you telling what happened in the game and opinions. They just weren't something that were covered in white newspapers. Mainstream newspapers in the early part of the nineteen hundreds. So i found myself using the pittsburgh courier and as a main resource which is an african american publication in pittsburgh You know historical you weekly newspaper And that was where i was able to find a lot of the accurate reporting Meagrely and black baseball and social issues. you know and everything like that so it was. It was very interesting to say. See the ballot and coverage. You know things that weren't covered by mainstream media that were covered these these african american publications and the reverse as well. Well was the importance of baseball to the african community. african american community. How was it looked upon. It was a huge part. You know as huge as as wait. america you know it just wasn't always publicized and and celebrate it that way nationwide within the african american community. Those games were huge. And i think one of the things that sometimes gets lost with You know white owners pushing back against integration. You know there were definitely had their racist reasons for doing so But also a business reasons you know when when they go out of major league teams on the road they were renting out their stadiums to the negro league teams and drawing out dry some of the major league teams in some instances so there was a tremendous amount of interest in the negro leagues. Without question. i mean it was enough to fill stadiums East west all star games. That they had were were drugs And you know they were covered by mainstream media as well so There's never a shortage of interest Had the barnstorming or to these african american teams can travel all over the country to any little town in america. People were coming out to see them black and white. You write about how. African americans have influenced baseball from the eighteen hundreds to the present. Give me a thumbnail description of how they've done that you know. I had a great conversation about that with pot cancer. Extra president of the eagerly dan. I flew out there and interviewed him and he said you know he put it great. He said you can go back in baseball history to any point in time and they're always african american stars. They're always black. Players for people can look up to you know whether they were black or white you know they just didn't have that opportunity to play in major league baseball. You know there were. The legend satchel teenage reached out. You know beyond just major league baseball. A bill josh gets and cool papa bell so they were always people to look up to just the point where they finally got into major league baseball and now they have a wider reach You know people were able to see them. Look up to them. And and i really do believe that that was a very Very big aspect of Of major league baseball players African american players as kids. Young black kids in the fifties and hank aaron and they wanted to be like You know and then it led to a boom in the seventies and eighties You know things like that. Kinda easier to perpetuate through the generations. You mentioned about cool papa bell and josh gibson and other names like that i don't know how much of it was Was fact it. How much is just a reputation that got out of out of bounds in sense. Tell me a little bit about the some of the great players and what they did actually accomplish. That's a good point too. And there's definitely a folklore. Do give negro league than barnstorming and the those players you mentioned. Cool papa and and satchel cage and just kids center mule suttles hidden you know. Five hundred. Eighty put homers but You know the documentations on the more structured leaks the negro national league there are stats We get major league. Baseball is gone to recognize These rarely stats as a major league. Which is great You know it's never going to be a complete picture Their records are incomplete There there are boxers that exists or are storybooks against But but you never really know you know. It was the league's were loosely. Organized time Barnstorming didn't necessarily count. So you know it is. It is kind of a. I'd say you know complete picture and that element of folklore that we just probably will never get a full full you know. How fast did satchel page pitch out. How far the judge gets fifties home runs over. Lying is these newspaper articles and stories that have been passed down. Tell me a little bit about. What was the toughest part in writing this book. That's a great question. And i i the toughest part for me was keeping in mind that You know it's too for two hundred and thirty facebook it's the size of the normal bobble But i would like yeah. There were definitely subjects. That i would loved to do a deeper dive into But couldn't do that. Because i'm trying to incorporate over one hundred and fifty years of baseball so you know tennis. The role of kennesaw mountain atlantis. In all of this. I think really deserves a very deep dive You know a and kind of on a bigger scale you know. I wanted to really kind of dive into where the tower was with integration and segregation Landis is the figurehead. He was the commissioner of baseball during the white periods. But there are a lot of questions about that. You know i think to me. The real power lied with the owners. landis you know while he you know he absolutely stood in the way of integration. You know there are some you know. He has positive relationships in other areas with african americans. he was business. Partners are here. They are very good close. If rube foster who founded the negro leagues each stood up as a judge for many You know on the right side of many rachel incidents so but then yet again you know seen as has the figure that kept baseball white for all those years you know and then there's the question You know landis died in nineteen forty four. You know there were team. That didn't integrate ten til ten fifteen years down the line after that. So what does he really the guy standing in the way. You know that. That's something. I would have loved to dive deeper into But just the restrictions on on doing a comprehensive time line. I think that was my biggest challenge. It's what to include whatnot to include. You know where to cut down. Rocco constantino is with us. We're talking about his book. It is an excellent read. We're gonna make it a selection of the month on the sports byline book corner checking out. It's called beyond baseball's color barrier the story of african americans and major league baseball past present and future we continue with more of you and sports byline..
Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"rube foster" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Nineteen twenties and thirties and forties. And and how. Newspapers covered. Jackie robinson and how. They put pressure major league baseball to integrate with in the thirties before. Jackie so Yeah very interesting to do. I would think and correct me if i'm wrong about this. Is that when a writers writing a historical piece. They tried to get themselves absorbed into that period of time. That they're writing about and for you. There was a long period of time you know from the different decades and everything was that the case and if so in those early days what did you feel about african-americans americans. The way they played the way they could not play baseball at that time. I think one of the things. I did did struggle with and and realizes finding Good an accurate documentation of negro league. James and barnstorming gains at the time i found you know there was definitely a lot of advertising. You know your satchel page to kenosha wisconsin or whatever. Those are great But then detailing what happened in the game and opinions. They just weren't something that were covered in white papers or mainstream newspapers in the early part of nineteen hundreds so i found myself using the pittsburgh as as a main resource which is An african american publication In pittsburgh Historical weekly newspaper And that was where i was able to find a lot of the actors reporting Eagerly and black baseball and and social issues You know and everything like that so it was. It was very interesting to say. See the balance and coverage. You know things that weren't covered by mainstream media that were covered in these these african american publications and the reverse as well. What was the importance of baseball to the african community african american community. Ha how was it looked upon i. It was a huge part As white america You know it just wasn't always publicized and Celebrated it that way nationwide within the african american community those games were used and i think one of the things that sometimes gets lost with You know white owners pushing back against immigration you know. There were definitely had their racist reasons for doing so They also have business reasons. You know when when they go out of major league teams around the road they were renting out their stadiums to the negro league teams and drawing powder on some of the major league teams in some instances so there was a tremendous amount of Interest in immigrant leagues without question. I mean it was enough to fill stadiums East west all star games. That they had were were huge draws And you know they were covered by mainstream media as well so There was never a shortage of interest. and then you have the barnstorming to or to these. African american teams can travel all over the country to any little town in america. People were coming out. See them black and white you about how african americans have influenced baseball from the eighteen hundreds to the present. Give me a thumbnail description of how they've done that. I had a great conversation about that. Pod cancer the president of the eagerly zan. I flew out there and interviewed him and he said he put it great. He said you can go back in baseball history to any point in time and they're always african american started. They're always black players for people to look up to let you know whether they were black or white you know. They just didn't have that opportunity to play in major league baseball. You know. There were legend satchel page reached out. You know beyond just just major league. Baseball legends of josh gets and cool papa bell so there there were always people to look up to It was just the point where they finally got into major league baseball that now they had a wider reach You know people were able to see them and look up to them. And and i really do believe that that was a very Very big aspect of Of major league baseball players african american players. You know as kids. Young black kids in the fifties watched as and hank aaron And they want it to be like him and I think the boom in the seventies and eighties You know things like that. Kinda easier to perpetuate through the generation. You mentioned about cool papa. Bell and josh gibson and other names like that. I don't know how much of it was was fact. And how much ozone just a reputation that got out of out of bounds in a sense. Tell me a little bit about the some of the great players. What they did did actually accomplish. That's a good point to and there's definitely up folklore to give a negro leagues and barnstorming and the players. You mentioned cool. Papa and satchel cage and just gets in her mule suttles hidden you know. Five hundred eighty five homers but You know they're documentations on the more structured leagues the negro national leagues. There are stats Was major league. Baseball is going to recognize These rarely stats as a major league. Which is great But you know it's never going to be a complete picture Their records are incomplete There there are box. Stores that exists there are scorebook that But but you never really know you know. The leagues were loosely. Organized at times barnstorming stats didn't necessarily count. So you know it is. It is kind of a I'd say an incomplete picture and and there is that element of folklore that we just probably will never get a full full. You know how fast satchel catch health how far the judge hits and fifty home runs older lying on these newspaper articles and stories that have been passed down. Tell me a little bit about. What was the toughest part writing this book. That's a great question. And i the toughest part for me was keeping in mind that You know it's all it's a two hundred and thirty tastes buckets. The size of bobble But i would like yeah. They were definitely subjects. That i would have loved to do a deeper dive into But couldn't do that. Because i'm trying to cooperate over you know hundred and fifty years of baseball so you know tennis. The role of kennesaw mountain atlantis. In all of this. I think really deserves a very deep dive You know a a and kind of on a bigger scale you know. It's a really kind of dive into where the tower was with. Integration ben segregation. Landis is the figurehead. He was the commissioner of baseball during the white periods. But there are a lot of questions about that you know. I mean i think to me. The real power lies with the owners Landis you know while you absolutely stood in the way of integration you know he there are some you know. He has positive relationships in other areas. But that's gonna hearkens. He was business partners or his very good close if rube foster founded the negro leagues He stood up as a judge for many You know i'm on the right side of many racial incidents so but then yet again you know. He's seen as the figure that kept baseball light for all those years you know. And then there's the question of you know landis died in nineteen forty four. You know there were teams. That didn't integrate ten til ten fifteen years down the line after that. So he really the guy standing in the way. You know that that's something i would have loved to diet deeper into But just the restrictions on on doing a comprehensive time line. I think that was my biggest challenge. What to include what not to include you know where to cut down. Rocco constantino is with us. We're talking about his book. It is an excellent read. We're gonna make it a selection of the month on the sports byline book corner. Check it out. It's called beyond baseball's color barrier the story of african americans and major league baseball past present and future we continue with more of you and sports byline most of us like to be out in the sun. That's my sunscreen and safety measures are key to protecting your skin from aging and cancer. The fda recommended using sunscreen with a sun protection factor or spf. A fifteen or higher also look for broad spectrum on the label that means both harmful ultraviolet a and b rays of block. uv rays age skin. You be be raised burn and both caused cancer. But the perfect sunscreen doesn't county they use it wrong. Don't need sunscreen on a cloudy day wrong. Eighty percent of uv. Rays still get the hanes. Only use sunscreen at the beach. 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Huddle Up with Gus
"rube foster" Discussed on Huddle Up with Gus
"Of the great coaches that were part of the negro leagues or. He has a masterful baseball minds. I've mentioned cumberland. Posey there with the homestead grays you had guys like andrew rube foster who is a brilliant now roof foster would start. The negro leagues informed illegal leagues here in kansas city. Literally a stone's throw from my office right around the corner from where my office is the personal. Ymca that's where they met to start the negro leagues in one thousand nine hundred twenty but route foster. Did everything. great route. Fox had been a great player. Rube foster would organize the negro leagues owner chicago american zionists and he managed to chicago american giants and gus as a manager ru foster was known to find his ball. Please as much as five dollars in early nineteen hundreds now if you were tag outstanding up. Ooh yeah you were supposed to slide. And at monte ru withdraw circle down the first base line and a circle down the third base line and if every one of his players couldn't drop a bucked inside a circle he would find them. He was adamant about the style of play that became signal to a negro leagues baseball fast. Aggressive dairy a butler way on they'd still second instill third and if you are smart. They were still in home and fans were flocking to see this style of play because it was polar opposite to the way that the game was being played in the major leagues. The major leagues were a base to base kind of game. So don't base. You moved them over the second and the big hitters came up and romi calloway. The game is played today but not at amigo leagues. The pace of the game was so much faster. It actually held your attention or as my friend. The late buccaneer would say you couldn't go to the concession stand because you might miss something that you ain't never seen before they had these masterful minds. Who were teaching this game. Mental rube foster. Ci taylor buck. O'neil you know. Ted double duty radcliffe buster hayward all these guys. Who have the opportunity. There they would have been great managers in major league. They just were never given the opportunity and so the kind of athlete the style in which they played the game it was special it really was advanced black and white flock to those games and they would be draft up an ice. Oh dress dying all of you on the ladies put on their beautiful still blouses and that have their suits and it just. The presentation of it is so spectacular that it's really the place to be when it were the social event of the week there goes that was nothing recreational about game. It was these social event of the week. And then you have to remember that often times we were leaving church going to the games because the negro league games were played on sundays primarily because the major league was then really play on sundays. And so the negro league would rip the ballpark play. That sunday double header and we have church as they would say dress to the neck. Everybody was there and you wanted to be part of the show. You went to see and you went to bc. Yeah i love that. I love it and you know one thing i wanted to ask you to is is tell us about the innovations that have come out of the negro leagues. Because i think i saw a read an article or watch video on that as well as at that there were so many innovations that we still have in baseball today. That came out of the negro leagues. Yeah and they never really were given credit for so when we started talking about admins such as the batting helmet. Shin guards offensive plays like the button. Run hit and run. These things all came out of the negro leagues but perhaps the most significant innovation that came out of the negro leagues night baseball. They were playing night games in the negro leagues five used before they ever played a game in the major leagues. Now our history is going to tell us that the first professional baseball game one thousand nine hundred eighty five crossley field cincinnati ohio cincinnati reds first philadelphia phillies well. History book is wrong. The first professional night baseball game nineteen thirty and it featured our very own. Kansas city monarchs j. l. wilkinson who own the monarchs literally. Every he had to pound baseball portable generator like towers. So not only. Did they play a night. Game here goes. They can load him up on the truck and play a night game. Virtually anywhere and truth that a mattie guys wilkie wasn't doing this for since he went on to be innovative he was doing it for survival mentioned more times than not negro. Totally games were relegated to playing on sundays and he was looking for a way to get the working class into the ballpark night. Baseball became the answer night. Baseball became bigger. They know sunday games. Now sunday gays were so popular. That black churches would move their service. Time up an hour that if you know anything about the black church you miss reserves. Yeah yeah that's not easy to do. Oh no no no. Eleven o'clock sunday gotomeeting but when cropper's are graze or monarch run home sunday service started ten o'clock and everybody out gordon at sunday night. Baseball was even bigger than bet and see wilkinson in nineteen twenty nine. Got a fifty thousand dollar loan. That's a lot of kids on oprah good money now for fifty thousand dollars in nineteen twenty nine. And it's still hard for me to believe that willkie walk into a bank office with a yet yet model truck and a scatter this flatbed portable lighting system. And said i won't take night baseball all over the country and some banker said that's a good idea his thousand dollars while he makes his investment back in you want. Wow all popular night. Baseball was always been ahead of. Its time when i was a young girl and we would go to arrowhead. I was always amazed. I mean yes. The eagles are playing it veteran stadium which will dated. I guess at the time but going to kansas city. There were so many things that were will ahead of. Its well the curve and certainly i really does kind represents the things that i've seen stadium when i was a young person and witnessing.
Tracing The Path
"rube foster" Discussed on Tracing The Path
"Back a few years. Nineteen forty six at the end of world. War two kennesaw landes. The first commissioner of baseball passed away and happy chandler. The governor of kentucky resigned and took his place chandler was for the integration of baseball in his biography. He wrote that he couldn't in good conscience. To- black men. They couldn't play baseball when they just fought for their country the next year. Nineteen forty seven. Chandler approved the contract landing. Jackie robinson on the brooklyn dodgers a landmark moment in american sports after jackie robinson. The floodgates opened and many teams integrated taking players from college. The negro leagues cuba and other latin american countries. Willie mays roy. Campanella ernie banks satchel page hank. Aaron and edmund. Sandy morose were all early major league players. After integration edmundo's sandy morose was from cuba. Sadly integration spelled. The end of the negro leagues black team owners were left in a pickle. They certainly didn't wanna stop players from playing in the major leagues but they also didn't want to lose their teams their culture their life rube foster former pitcher for the cuban giants. And head of the negro lead said this about jackie robinson's integration. A big part of black life was over and where we had whole teams to root for now we had one player the end of the black leagues didn't change much for the cuban league the merely switched to playing the minor league ball clubs in the us. In fact the havana. Sugar kings started the year. Jackie robinson signed in nineteen fifty five. The cuban people experience something they never had before a live broadcast of a. Us baseball came well. Cuba was the first latin american country to get tv live. International broadcasts were unheard of but this one was special. It was the nineteen fifty five world series. Pitting the dodgers against the yankees. The dodgers had jackie robinson. Sandy colfax tommy lasorda roy. Campanella and cuba zone at mundo. Sandy amoros that live broadcast was made possible by outfitting. Coupon airline dc three with lee relay transmission equipment and flying it in circles between key west and havana for four hours. A sign of the technology. Hungry cuban.
Tracing The Path
"rube foster" Discussed on Tracing The Path
"He went on to become the first latin american player to play in the major leagues but despite the ban cubans continued to play and form the first cuban league in eighteen. Seventy eight bringing esteban back to cuba playing for club havana. The cuban league played from november to may making it a great winter league for us players so esteban could play in both cuba's plea independence got some unsolicited help. When the us began the spanish american war in eighteen ninety eight at the defeat of spain. Po rico cuba the philippines and guam. Were ceded to the. Us for twenty million dollars and cuba was free from spanish rule that brought new opportunities for them to play. Us teams just a year later. Cuban teams started to allow black players to play in their league thus began the integration of baseball by the eighteen eighty s black amateurs and professional leagues had formed. The east coast scene had grown the most with philadelphia being the center of the baseball universe. Well the philly area. It wasn't always easy to get permits to play so camden new jersey across the river. So a good number of games as well. The cuban giants had of newark. Were the first professional black team. Sadly choosing that name because white spectators were more inclined to watch cubans than blacks and their success led to the first negro league. The national colored baseball league in eighteen eighty seven. Eighteen ninety cubans were playing american teams in american teams. Were playing cuban teams thus both teams were allowing players from the other league to play on their team for several years. They played without incident other than seeing the rise and demise of many teams over the years but in nineteen fourteen world war. One put a crimp in the rise of baseball in the us. The need for workers in the northern states to replace soldiers sent abroad created a migration of blacks from the us south to the north and in cuba. It caused forests to be chopped. Down to make way for sugarcane and core production and for this. They needed workers at the end of the war. It was the former pitcher of the cuban giants rube foster who pushed to get baseball going again. In one thousand nine hundred twenty therefore a new negro national league was started with rube foster as the president it was only a couple of years before in eastern and southern league started and the first colored world series was played in nineteen twenty four. The negro league games were very successful often seeing attendance higher than major league games even when played on the same day.
The Dork Forest
"rube foster" Discussed on The Dork Forest
"Yep had a very famous pitcher named Christy Mathewson, and he was very different than the ball players wage because they all chewed tobacco and and more slots on the road and Christy was a Christian and all he would play Checkers in the clubhouse in Bridge. Yes, and he went to Bucknell. So he had a choice of a college education. He was also tall and great-looking in Anglo. Okay, so he was six foot three in those days. I mean, you know, and they called him the Christian gentlemen, he's most famous pitch perfect perfect control. It was a really superb picture was called this the Fate away which now we will call screwball you hold it like that and when you let go of it with your right hand you spinning it, so it's breaking in on a right-handed batter. So it's a trade-off. Pets right purportedly right McGraw who was fraternize with Rube Foster brought Rube Foster over from the Negro Leagues to show Christy how to perfect it because rebirth was a super picture as was his right, right. And so they were stealing styled. They were McGraw style was very much an eerily style Bund Bund Bund steal steal steal run run run a million signatures a million a big fake-out cheeks trying to gain the game the refs that they were, you know push-ups as far as they could go, right? So that's the weekends and then Charleston was a terrific Fielder. He played a very shallow center field right behind second. So balls hit over his head he would chase down like he'd run under them like break the Willie Mays football thing kind of okay, you've purposely played right behind the in detail, which allows you to make plays in the infield on balls that are hit just over the second base, right but also very few planes. Forget it. Closed. Secondly, he was physically very strong. He supposedly could take a baseball and ripped the cover off it with his hands and I don't know if you've ever held a baseball but it's pretty tightly bound. Right? Yeah pictures loved it when he played first because he threw the ball around after every out right when she still did you see them always in baseball the the ball goes around the infield home and comes back to the like in Little League. They get put in the big leagues. They still do it. They not the catcher throws the ball and then they all whip it around and then the kids back in the old days when you can spit on the ball and chain aggression tobacco, and they all right everybody lives. And so when they Charles don't play first he Like listen to seems so then when you lose in the seems you got a sphere a baseball. This fear can't point of pitching is to deflect hitting a whole point of hitting is too defensively perfect to play and get right. So soon as the Spheres has a seam lifted on it. It just no longer applies in a correct. It attains all sorts of weirdness. So that's why guys cheat sheet and pull teams up and spit and put tax on it and all this to KY Jelly. Yep. So the Negro Leagues never outlawed any of that shit. So the pictures were doctoring the ball the whole bunch. So I went to the big leagues were like what we get a new ball every batter and the guys.