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This is Liz there's this Jade, and this is Carly and you're listening to. And. Hello, everybody. Welcome back. It's a new week. Yeah. What are you going to accomplish? What's one thing you're going to accomplish this week? I mean, let's just so long. I will probably only get half of one done. I need to we need to pick out our invites. We haven't narrowed down you have down that's exciting. And then we need to do some stuff for venue. And then personally I need to. Do a few Dula things. That would see have we talked about your wedding colors on here yet, what are your wedding colors? Well, I I know, but I just want you to talk about I don't know. Okay. You know, I don't really know how to describe it because. I'm not good with the color words. I guess, but like a deep wine, maybe a deep, I don't know. And then like, champagne and gold and rose gold. Pretty softer. I dunno different shades of champagne ish, champagne and wine. Yeah. Exactly. Thirsty over here. Yeah. Gosh. Just so pretty. Those are the ones there's this picture that popped up on Instagram the other day, and it was of this lake was real so clear, and you could see all these really pretty pebbles at the bottom and tanners. Where is I want to go there and it was glacier national park. I was like that's where Liz is getting married. You got all excited that it was like McDonald? I can't remember. But it was really really pretty picture. Nice. Yeah. Parks gorgeous. Yeah. Evan is so excited about your wedding. He when I tell he was like, well where is it Montana? Like, no way. I have always wanted to go. I was like I can't wait. Oh my God. I'm so excited. That's so funny. Well, I mean, it's February. And it's winter. So it's going to be cold. Great. But it will be a good time. More time for snuggling. Right. Yes. All the girls can come snuggle in my room until the wedding. Okay. Yes. That's hounds. Fantastic. Jade, what are you going to accomplish this week? Well, we just got back from Puerto Rico. And so a lot of nothing. Tell us about Puerto Rico. It was fun. So we were down there with. Discover Puerto Rico tourism board and sorry if you can hear Emerson's plain fake phone, but. Yeah. We were down there with their tourism board because they were affected by hurricane Irma and hurricane Maria and the country are it's an island does US territory always wanted to country, but they were really really affected. They didn't have power for ten months, and all these things and people are drinking water that wasn't clean. And so a lot of people haven't known that the island is getting back on their feet, and they're trying to get more people to come back and visit. So we were there just like promoting the tourism. And we were there with ashlin Jared, and we took EMMY, and it was a lot of fun it rained the first two days, but it kind of. We went down into old San Juan and because it rained the. Cruise ships didn't poor. Yeah. They did it no one came off. And so so it was very felt Villier. Well, very private, and it was actually kind of pretty 'cause like the rain was drizzling and the streets in the old San Juan area are made out of iron. And so when the rain hits the iron on the on the bricks it has like this iridescent blue color, though is very like, I don't know if I'll very movie Matic, the Rangers lane, the green backgrounds and the ocean. And there's the ocean the beach is pretty Rockies all the waves crashing on the rocks and pretty oh my gosh my first cruise ship. I never been on a cruise ship for in. That was are port was San Juan. And I it was my birthday, and I was supposed to board the ship the next. So I flew out. I'd never been out of the country or on a cruise ship. I flew out, and I got to the hotel and they're like. Well, we have your name in the system, but without this piece of paper from the cruise ship. We can't let you into your room. What and it was so stupid. So I ended up like calling Royal Caribbeans like main line and talking two thousand people I was balling only wanna do go my room. It's my birthday. It was like such Kath and come to find out because I was an independent contractor and not a Royal Caribbean employees. I didn't even have this piece of paper that they wanted from me. Oh my God. I ended up letting me in my room, and I was just sitting they didn't have any room service or anything. I was sitting in my mom had packed some packages of goldfish, and I was eating goldfish. Crying in my hotel room walked into the bathroom, take a shower, and this shower that ceiling had somehow lots of the ceiling and fallen into. On. I those my first time ever in Puerto Rico, but it got better. Has has great shops and great food. But it was I was just like what happening right now. Oh, my guy was so devastated. Anyway, that's a funny Puerto Rico story. That's funny. But yeah, the food. There was amazing. We I mean vacations really all about eating right? But we aiding it was so good though. I still think it's funny that Tanner loves mudslide so much. It's like, so it's a heaven Jared thing, it's yeah. It's their tradition. And I think they kind of embrace it because it's such a girly sweet drink and say getting mud lot mudslides together. I don't understand it. But they literally have a love affair. There's. Bromance? They are Carly. What are you going to get done this week? So I am going to evident. I just went to this piece of property in downtown Franklin above actually, his one of his favorite restaurants, and we were walking around. And I think I'm going to lease this property for myself to podcast from into do Instagram stuff from videos from just like have a space for me to go. And like be me. It's like, it's like, your little T shed. Yeah. I I'm getting myself a she shit. But also doing it in a place. I love like, so I can go across the street, and like go have a glass of wine when I want to and I can go to a restaurant, and I can go shopping, and I can do these things that make me feel not so much like a live in a house with stinky, boys. Is that what I'm already decorated? Or does it like no like a blank canvas it's real? It's really cool. It's like all wood floors. And then like one of the walls is brick and the it's so weird. It was almost like it's like we walked weird. It's tailor made for exactly what I need 'cause it's like a main room that I can do like a bunch of videos and stuff in and then a little bitty room. With almost looks like a studio it has like a glass window. So you can see into the room, but it's just a small room. And I'm like, this is perfect podcast room. Yeah. So it'll just be fun to have somewhere to go. And be like, okay. I get a babysitter or Evan. And I'm going to work, then that's great. I'm NFL at your she loft. You she lawf-. Oh, yes. I know. I'm not I'm not even gonna give a key. He's not allowed to have the key. No boys allowed. No boys allowed. It's so funny though because he like. He loves the space to and he's like, I think I'm gonna have my birthday there. And I'm like, oh, are you? You have to ask me. I it's really funny. But so that's on getting accomplished. All right, ladies, I want to take a break real quick from regular conversation to tell you about posh. Mark posh. Mark is a free downloadable app or a website that you can go to that carries women kids and men gently used items you can shop right out of the closet of people all across America. They have tons of brands shop from you will not believe the deals you'll find on posh, Mark. And I know that there's things like Louis Vitton speedy bags for as little as three hundred dollars. And now, I know when I went to buy something like that and treat myself Tanner cannot complain because I'm getting such a great deal and also shipping on posh. Mark is super easy for both the seller and the buyer and it's super fast. If you see something you want, you can also make a bargain with the sellers. So you can go down on the prize. If if you think it's too high. And you might get it for that listeners at babes and babies are getting five dollars off your first purchase does injured the referral code babies. When you sign up that's referral code babies. When is his birthday again? Oh my gosh. She starts it's in December. But he starts planning his birthday like the night of his birthday that year. He's like so my next, but I know where seldom my birthday today, but like next. It's so crazy. So funny. That's funny, especially for God's his birthday. He loves it. He just thinks everybody celebrating celebrating him is the best thing there ever was deadly. There are people like that for sure. Share? I had a birthday party. But just because it was my golden. But for the most part, I don't like celebrating my birthday. It's very awkward feel. Yeah. I'm not a huge birthday celebrator. Yeah. Just like even for my birthday. I was like, well, I just want like a dinner like like me and Julian Aaron and Evan. That's all I want. I don't wanna bring anything, you know. Yeah. I think Cardi, and I talked about it where we were like, we're not surprised party people. Like, don't the big party. No. I know those people who just like free. I mean, they would love it. Oh, I want everyone. Yeah. My mom did win from eighteen and I loved it. I had no idea actually. Yeah. I love surprises. But I wanna play in one. I normally just feel really weird about it. Like, I don't know. I'd rather just. Yeah. Go to dinner with friends. Maybe you're not like, but I mean, if somebody planned a big surprise party for me. I wouldn't hey. It it. Yeah. I mean so last year when I was pregnant Evan planet surprise party for me. And like it was so sweet. And it was like a fantastic party, but we'd gone to dinner. And then all I wanted to do is go to sleep and we walked into someone's house, and it was a party. And I was like, right. Oh my God. I have to be here from four and all I wanted to do is cry and put it was so nice in my face when like price Brady like everybody like videos, you write in someone sending the video. I can't look at that. Because I know what my face did. Like, I didn't have the like happy. This is amazing face. I was like, no. Yeah. And I felt so bad because it was such a sweet like gift like they had had my favorite like everything. I was craving. Yeah. Pregnant people gifts people everybody was there. It was so sweet. But in that moment, I was like all I wanna do is go to sleep. I don't know. It's still funny. However is so different so hip if you wanna throw Carlisle surprise birthday party make it early. Yeah. Oh, I would love that changed. I liked Bryant that a great idea because it involves a most and like and then like the rest of the day is years, right? And don't plan anything for the rest of the day. Yeah. Surprise brunch. Right. What's it? Well, because then like if you have a party at night, then you're always wondering, especially with people who drink. Okay, how late is this going to go? Because if it's a party for you you have to be there. You can't leave your surprise, right? It can't get. Can't get right. Cargo. I don't know. Sorry, three hours ago. Half hours ago. Can't do that. I don't know. Anyway. Anyone that was at that party? It was amazing. And I'm so thankful I was just in shock. You just really wanted your bed. Well, I was just so pregnant. And yeah, you can't drink. So it's like. See this sober one. Watching everyone else drink. Yeah. That's not as fun. Yeah. Anyway. We have. Everyone listening. We're doing a really fun CUNY today. Every time we do Kyun as I'm like, man. I feel like I've answered a lot of questions like what else is there to answer. But then there's always tons more questions. We haven't talked about this. Well, yeah, we could talk mart. Word. Okay. When do mama. Okay. I have a funny one though that somebody asks in the attic where do they keep your phones during the filming of the bachelor bachelorette, and I literally was thinking it's like prison. They keep them in nila involoved up with your phone, and whatever. When you get your Manila envelope back. It's like imprison they have that little box, and they like give it to you back. Yes. Kind of prison in a way. I mean, I'm bachelor bird is asked to go home several times. And they're like, no that's prison. Like, you cannot leave this island's. Yeah island. Yeah. They keep it in a Manila envelope. They take like your phone if you have an ipad. Yeah. All your what else all your connections to the outside world. Do you think people sneak stuff on? Yes. Yes. Under percent. I'm pretty sure Caitlyn had an ipad the whole filming of bachelorette stops only. Then that's how that doesn't. Yeah. Oh. Mm. That's how I mean. Still her beings. But. Everyone's like, that's what that's what about it. You know, you know. Yeah. Do you know, you definitely know you guys got lots of sex questions. This time. Okay. Wait. Liz. I want to ask you that question. But now, I can't find it. I want to ask you specifically about what that said was that one? Oh, it's in this crew. Maybe. Ding, it Liz, we're is it. I don't know Carly. Wait. I think I've found it. Okay. What does Liz think it'll be like to start having sexist veto after their wedding night? Do they talk about it? Are they still absent or they glad they waited? Also, how many kids do you? Nice. Okay question here. Yes, we are still apps in it. Yacht. We talk about doing it all the time. We don't go to the next question yet. Because I want to know like, what do you what is the conversation? Like, just like only. Oh, I don't like text you later. So very silly. Like sexed then. No, I'm like, I'm just saying like I was going to tax you guys later. I don't wanna say what we talk about on. Know, we'd basically just like me, and we can't wait to do. It. Just you wait. I'm going to get you this abstinent. Also mean like, you don't do any you don't do anything sexual. I don't think that's what it means. Under condition. Okay. But yeah, no. I mean, we're definitely super excited to have sex. Then I think that it'll be glorious wonderful. And we can't wait really you're gonna like a right the minute. It just goes in yet. We talked about like we've talked about like, I'm like, we probably shouldn't even have a reception where I do the won't be okay. See you guys later. I do that. The cocktail hour, and you guys will have a different kind of cocktail hour. Good one. We're talking about the other day because he was saying he's like, I just think it's weird because I mean, those people have sex before they're married, but it's like once you get married like everyone knows you're doing it like on your wedding night or on your honeymoon. I was just bang in the whole time. And it's just weird. Did you guys feel weird at all or? No, well now, I do. I think people, you know, when you get pregnant now, everyone knows like, well, we were banging, you know, it's like a weird thing. Yeah. He was not pulling out that time. Yeah. We and also we wanna have like four or five kids. Oh my gosh. You wanna hold tribe, but is. Lawnmowers are here on. That's okay. You can't hear him four five kids you need to start like. Yeah. Then you need to get pregnant on your wedding night. And then another question a lot of people ask me like how long do we want to wait? I doubt we'd like to wait a year. That's a good. I'm not going to be on birth control. And I'm going to try to just use protection while I'm ovulating. And try other means, and then he and I talked about really we want to wait a year. And he's like, yeah. But I'll probably wanna start trying before that you know, like we'll go through phases. Where like, let's wait a year after we get married, then we're like, or let's just be careless a few months in and see what happens. Right. I don't really have a set plan for that. Yeah. With Emerson Tanner Nyerere like, well, let's start trying in December. And we thought it would take a couple of months, and boom I first time trying with hers. So that sitting are trying you might just just get pregnant will Ray. And we it's like, you don't know like I don't know if I'll be able to. Yeah, right away or not, you know. So we'll see. Oh. And that leads me to a question that somebody asked for you Carly was. When you when the doctor told you that you were potentially going to not be able to really get pregnant. Yeah. How I mean for you did that fill like a loss at the time or how did you deal with that? Oh, yeah. I. Like, so I was told that when I was living California. And it messed me up. I mean, I was like I was so messed up that. I remember I went over to my friend's house, and we opened a bottle of wine, and I think we smoked cigarettes. I was like I'm just going to do all the bad things right now because I can't handle life like what race mocking cigarettes, who am I and. And I remember I ended up like moving back to Texas after that. 'cause I just like it was such a weird thing in my brain. And I didn't even have a boyfriend at the time. It was just like this like, I don't know. I couldn't really comprehend it. And then when I got my eggs taken out, and I didn't get very, many eggs. I was also like my gosh is gonna be so hard. So. I mean, I still say like Bill is like a total miracle like she really is. She was supposed to be here in she. She'd. Yeah, she's just a miracle. But it did it felt like a loss. But it was also bad information. Like, they should've never said that like that wasn't a good doctor. So I feel like sometimes doctors say like the worst outcome almost sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. It is. And they just like, yeah. They weren't even right. Were looking at like, the health thin my uterus was and it was like you'd never be able to carry a child. I wear. Yeah. I was like, okay. And that's where the information even came from. It wasn't even based on like a fertility doctor. They just and I was young like, I didn't know, you know. Right. If if you go to a fertility, doctor, it's different you get information. That makes sense. But it was just like a gynecologist, right? Yeah. And then how I mean, how did you kind of overcome that? And it was that a conversation that you had had with Evan before you. So we talked about having kids in paradise. I mean having kids together, and I remember telling him like it's gonna be hard. I was like I said I froze my eggs because doctor told me is gonna be hard. And I didn't even get about many eggs. And like if we even talked about adoption like well, would you ever want to Dopp news like totally and? And then I think that's why it was almost shocking to them when we did get pregnant with Belo because I think he was like you told me it was getting hard. You know, he gonna happen, right? And I'm like it because it's supposed to even people at Wendy's clinic was we're like so what how did you get pregnant this quickly? Yeah. So. I don't know. I. It's kind of like a whirlwind of a. I I think I got that information. And then it messed me up in the head. And then bell was supposed to be here. And I think that's what she just made her way into the world. I really do think. She did. I think she did. I really do. Reminds me of can I'd say this quick do you remember them moving look who's talking where in the beginning? It's all the sperm swimming towards the and like Bella was the one that was never forget that I'm gonna get. She's like get out of my. Yeah. Get out of it was ready. Yeah. No. That's that's so funny. I will never forget that. Because I remember watching that. And my mom would like try to fast forward that part because it was like not not that bad. But it was like a really intense thing for a little child to try to understand, right? What's brothers? And I always would giggle. We were like, oh, my Goshi. It's so funny. It's the sperm in the. Stofile any as you on though, it is cold and flu season. So staying properly hydrated is one of the most important factors in flu and cold recovery in prevention liquid IV contains one hundred ten percent of your daily value vitamin c and b twelve it is so vital to your nutrition. It's not your average electrolyte drink mix. 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Maybe I had like stated at one point that we're doing baby led we need. But I- mine's very modified. I am not like strict in some people follow it to an exact tea, and I'm part of a Facebook group called baby led weaning something and in order to be a part of the group. Like, there's all these and like rolls that they say you have to do. And so I just don't participate because I don't follow it that strict way. What are the rule just like you can only do that? You can only talk about baby led weaning in here. You can only you can only stay something. If you're only giving your child the regulations of baby. I mean, it's very strict. That's intense. I know I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, I'm, but I just I don't know. I know I get a lot of questions. From women about choking. I guess and like I'm so frayed that my child's gonna choke on something if I give her or him some you know, what you're doing Emerson. And Emerson never really. Has had a choking episode which talk about we need to talk about that Carly. Yeah. That was horrible scary choking episode when we were as but. She's always been a very good Scheuer. She's always known even to like math or gums, and I've just kind of experimented and I've had to fish hook a few things out like I've had to like put on her side on stick my finger and fish something out before that. I was like, okay, she's not handling that. But it's I don't know. It's just something that I've just done. I don't even know how to explain it. I've just experimented with foods. And she's been not a picky eater. And she really likes food. So but at the same time, I will feed her something. And then be like, okay. Well, that wasn't enough, and then I'll supplement with food pack, so she gets pure as still so I'm not like a full baby led weaning person. Because if you're doing full on baby led weaning, you don't do pure as and I still do pure really sorry. She's right at my feet and. She's like speaking of food. But so yes, I don't even know how to explain that. I think you should join Facebook group, I'm baby led weaning if you're wanting to look into that. But it's okay. If you're a baby choke, so you can watch YouTube videos that are the difference between actual gagging and versus choking, I guess and so for the women out there in dad's. I guess that are listening to if you're worried about your baby gagging, choking, you can see those videos to know which one serious, but it's all about experimenting and letting your kid learn with foods, it's mostly about that. I think more than. Letting them learn how to eat like that. It's just it's just giving them that first step. But I'm not sure either. If you use the words baby led weaning before. Well, yeah. So I think we talked about it once on a QA, and I was talking about it because I do give her foods and let her feet herself. And. Baby led weaning is cutting the pieces up long levers, mostly so they can chew on it themselves and experiment with foods and textures. But if they do swallow it then enough to go down there Asaf against so they don't choke. And so there's there's certain safety like rules that you wanna follow. You just don't give them like you don't give them a whole grape. You know? And so did you have did you have like a set time where you like when when Emerson turns one I'm going to start or when she whatever is it just like now, you're starting more just because you and Tanner trying to conceive so. Oh, I see like wean you're talking like weaning breastfeed breast waning. Yeah. So here's the thing that I would probably nurse. Emerson till she was two. Personally. I'm not really ready to quit. But we want to have another kid. And I think that's the big obstacle in our way right now is my hormones due to breastfeeding. And seventy people have reached out to me and said the minute I completely like weaned my child off like no, no milk at all the next month. I was able to successfully. Carry a baby. And so I feel like that's definitely like what's preventing is. But I will tell you that I've been having which I didn't know was thing which is like weaning depression, and it's because you're supposed to wean very slowly. And I feel like I am. But. I've been like having crazy hormonal changes, and it's like rocky my world right now. And I didn't even know this is the thing, but I'm like on the series struggle bus. I'm almost ready to quit cold Turkey and just deal with a week of feeling terrible. But you're supposed to do it. Slowly. I just hate it. I'm like not loving life. Sorry, it's fine. It's just annoying, and I didn't know this thing. And now, I feel so I feel so much for women who now now that I know what this feels like I'm sure I mean, I don't know what post-partum depression feels like. But this is like what it feels like I'm sorry because it really sucks. Yeah. How often is she breastfeeding right now. Well, that's the hard thing. So I have at home down to. Like once every twelve hours. So she's feeding at night and that before she goes to bed, and then when I wake up in the morning, I go and get her now because she's now she's like pretty much almost leaping in her crib through the night. There's still sometimes she's not but an feeder in the morning, and so that's like at once every twelve hours, but then we go on the plane, and she feeds on the plane in so now she and we had we didn't have a nonstop. So then the other day like feeds four times and four hours, you know. And I'm like now, I'm just messing my whole body up again, this no consistency over here. My body's like going nuts. We get a hug you in a couple of weeks. Yes. Alley next week next. And I'll air. Oh, yeah. Thanks. Guide. Weird couch cuddles. Yeah. It's mostly like, I'm just angry a lot like one of the most emotions I feel from this change is like irritability, irritability, and anger and just annoyed. It's how I feel. I think that that is something that a lot of women experience because I remember when my sister had to quit breastfeeding. So with our youngest she had to quit breastfeeding overnight. They found a blood clot and she had to start on medication right away. And so it wasn't. There was no slow wean, and she I remember she dealt with a lot of anger because her daughter, she's like, she just looks at me like I'm betraying her because she wants to eat and I have to keep telling her. No. And she'll hit me on the chest. Because she's like why are you feeding me? She couldn't. And she just felt so angry that like she wasn't able to wean her off or anything, you know. Yeah. And I'm sure what her hormones too late because the anger towards anything. There's no reason. It's like, I don't have Inger for reason. It's just this feeling underneath just annoyance. And it's just my hormones changing everything in my body is swinging. From one high to the net, one hormone being so high to going super low and to another hormone because of that going up. It's just our bodies are crazy as women. I don't know how we handle. Handle. I am. I am much crazier right before. I start my period now than I ever was before. Like, I feel angry like I'm so mean to the other day and then like two days later start my period. I was like sorry. I've been so mean in the past today's obviously hormones like, but it is it's like angry. And I can't like I couldn't even like I was like you have to hang out with Bella for the next couple of hours because I I'm not being a good mom because it can't not like can't love her right now. But like I can't give anything right now. I can't even play I'm gonna cry. Yeah. But it's it is it's like a it's a hormone thinks. And I started my period. And I was like oh my gosh. Okay. I feel normal again. But those mics are so different than before. I agree. And the thing I have to watch out to I don't like being angry to other people. And so I turn allies it, and then I like, I'm. Enga to myself, and I beat myself up, and which is either. So then here, I am lake. It's just so hard. I mean, I'm kind of like, my anger. I don't say mean things to him. I just don't talk to them. I will like I ag- nor him all day. And he's like that you haven't even talked to me all day. And I just like so I'm kind of the same. It's like, well, it's hard because they're never going to understand like I've tried to talk to feel, but he has no idea what feels like. So he dislike him, but he's like, okay. So. Positive and I'm like, no, that's not how it works. I'm trying I'm trying but. And like so Evan is like way more emotional than Tanner is. So I feel like sometimes he does understand the swing of the emotions because Evan can be super emotional. But it would be like, yeah. 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Now to find your perfect fitting bra and get fifteen percent off your first purchase. That's third. Love dot com slash babes. For fifteen percent off today. Speaking of her husband's this is a funny one. Someone asked if we did a husband swap Jade what our lives would be like. Like is this? Relation that. I'm trying to envision myself then or this is like I would be like I am living with Evan for a week. You're living with Evan for week. And I'm living with Tanner. Like, I actually can't even imagine that. Because tant Tanner works all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And so you're you're swapping children. I get I don't know how it works. Yeah. Out works. Okay. So men and the just hanging out. Eating some food. She's looking, but she they're real noses. And then. Yeah. Tanner coming home at night 'cause you don't even see him that much. Well, he works like forty five hours a week. So he has a law. Yeah. Two days off a week. And then one early day that he comes on like four. But otherwise, he I works like eight on the other Tanner likes to house, very clean, very very clean. It's ridiculous. I think I would just hire a maid come every day without him knowing it I've thought about that. And then I would like I pretend like I could cook. And I would like hire someone to bring me food and like take it out of the oven. I would just. Honestly, MRs Doubtfire, remember when she acts like she prepares that meal, and it's all ordered in. Yeah. I think I would just try to trick him. You to do it for a week. Right. But then, you know, don't get them used to that life because when Jacobs home he'll be currently for me, every case even messy the Messia ever, and I'll make really bad food, which I would. Anyway, some terrible cook we go, then he'll be happy do grateful. Yeah. For me. I mean, so you would have this would be a week where you'd have all three boys, plus Bella and Evan Evan mostly works from home now. So he would be home. All that's okay. Actually, I think Evan and I would make a good friend team. Like, I think we'd probably level on a lot of thing. Get handle him for a week that way. Sometimes when you're like what people are too similar to yourselves. Then you end up getting like annoyed because we're so similar. Yeah. But I think I do it for a week. And I probably have a really deep conversations bring in car in and Tanner. It'd be like, hey, what's up? So. Good cool. What we do hundred percents trim. Yeah, evident, I get into like deep conversations about the universe and style. My God and the boys because I don't have older kids. I would just take them. I would be like what grandma's. Do you know where they would just go take kids go to fun things. Gosh, that's they're gonna vade. Don't listen to this kids? They're going to be like Carly. Because he's like that's my grandparents do because they're like, oh, I'm only here for the day. I'm gonna do all the fun thing. That is totally true. That's so I mean, I would actually that would actually be really funny to watch. That's exactly how it'd be. It'd be you. It would be a scene of UNM in sitting on the couch. Well, all the kids are asleep talking about the most intense, deep spiritual thing Tanner chief. Drinking beer. Though, I don't drink beer, but I have gluten free one. Oh, gosh. That's so funny. That is funny. I have a question for you guys. So. Since you've had children has your relationships with your in laws changed. No. I'm trying to think. Yes. And no, I guess. Tanner's mom's very helpful. Like, she sees Emerson once every week or once every two weeks. She's very helpful. I don't know like it's change change. I feel like maybe there was one time where she crossed the line. And I didn't say anything, but I think Tanner said something and now there's a little bit of a weirdness there because she's never approached me about it. And so I've sometimes there's a little bit of elephant in the room. But I feel like it's changed if anything I feel like we're more like family now. But I don't know inlaws as touchy thing it is. Evans, mom, said a few things was pregnant about high wasn't doing the pregnancy. Right. And I feel like I've just never really gotten over that. How do you do? See? Right. Well, she. On way. Well, she has like these things that she's decided or right, which I don't even really know where she got him. Maybe she made them up. I don't know. But she'd be like who knows maybe she's very she'd be like you need more peanuts. Because that makes a baby's hair grow in the womb. Or that's weird. Like you need to do this things. I'd be like that doesn't like that doesn't make sense. Like that's not science like she would say things that I'd be like, okay. Look at. Belva kind of about babyish. She like told you peanuts. I'm sure she's thinking that for. It's what's funny is like everyone knows this. So like Liam we'll be sitting next to grandma's sometimes. And be like oh Carly it's because you didn't eat those peanuts or something. And then look over at him. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Lille so funny. So it's like become like, this funny thing, and she still says things like that like, oh will Bella needs to eat, you know, this because of this, and I'm like what or do this. Because this and I'm like that's not brooded in science. Like, that's the you made that up. It was never like super close to his parents like. Actually didn't even know that he never introduced me to his parents even wearing gauged. I met them at a soccer game because his friend. Stephen was like, hey, these are Evans parents. And I was like what give is really weird and Evan loves his parents. He just like, I don't know. He just he's not like super close to them. I guess, and so I don't think that's that hasn't really changed. And I think it's I mean Evan already had children. So. The bond with that was already there. So even though I had a kid with oven to the relationship between grandparents and. Kids was already kind of stab list. And so I don't think that's really changed. We see them like every weekend for like soccer games. And I let you know. I'm like, oh here hang out with bell or whatever. But we don't really hang out with them that much, and I lot of it's just because it's sometimes hard when she's talion mom with lots of opinions. And sometimes it's just. Yeah. Better to like, not because. Just better not we all have talion mother-in-law's. I. Yeah. It's just it's I mean, and she's a she's a very sweet woman, but she's just. She's not it's just not very helpful relationship. Like, my mom would be like, oh my gosh. What do you need the kitchen? It's like the opposite with that. So it's kind of like I'd have to take care of like Bella and grandparents at the same time instead of getting help, and it's like rush strating. I. Yeah. Yeah. At nectar, they believe in love at first night. 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And I was saying how hard it can be defy mom friends after you have a baby. And I don't really have any friends. Really? I have Carly who has who has Bella. But then I've lived who's not who's not who doesn't have kids yet. And then my mom, and they're like, they're like, that's all you need. That sounds amazing. You have you have your friend that you met on the show, and you guys have gone through all these things. And then you have your lifelong friend, and then you have your mom who knows you best. That was like, right. I'm like, you're so right. And actually made me really appreciate when I do because I'm like, I don't have all these. I start feeling bad. But sometimes it's so hard to if you have too many friends to juggle them. And then you fill this guilt of all this like, oh my gosh. I totally back home. I got. No. I can't have brench with UCS. I'm too busy or because my baby just woke up and now she's screaming like sometimes, you can't have all the friends. Yeah. It's too much. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Someone asked if I'm worried about how my relationship with friends and family change after get married with kids. And I don't think I am I feel like your life is kind of a natural progression and things and change in normal. And also feel like that's when like your Jade like you're saying. You have friends are at different stages in your life. You know in the ones that are going to be there through it all are going to be there through it. All yeah. And I think for me it's hard just because I don't have any friends that live here really made some and I'm still meeting them. But it's like all my closest people aren't here, and my family's not here in JD or away from friends and family to Carly awesome. That your parents moved there like you have them now that so scrum. So I just feel like the only thing I'm really. Worried about maybe is missing my family, or wishing that they could be more part of my kids. Life's. Yeah. I get that to you think they would ever move to you, even though I know like your sister lives in Texas and everything here working on it. We're trying. Ooh. Well, that's good. I mean, I don't know if they will my dad said he won't move. But. Where we're still kind of nudging him. I mean as long as you're like, okay with travelling with kids, even if you see them every couple of months, it's still. The your kids will still know them. They'll slur kids. They're still be that Bonn. I mean, obviously won't be like, hey, can you babysit, but. Well, I just grew up. Not knowing my grandparents, very well. And I always was of my friends who like their grandparents were their best friends. Yeah. No and Mesa. Sure in Texas has that with my parents and her chaos, you know, like her daughter Brooklyn, grandma's girl. And so, but I know my parents are gonna be way more involved than my grandparents were, you know? Yeah. Minimum already said like she'll come up for you know, if I wanted to up here for a week, or if I wonder up here for a couple of weeks or K comes spend a month over the summer with us like, she'll do an awesome. Yeah. But I mean, I think that that's just the only thing anything else. I'm not really worried about. I mean, you adjust and adapt. Yeah. But Carl you're saying if you're okay flying with them, so many tips for flying with kids, and I know both you guys have done that. Now a handful of times so JD just went international with the baby. Yeah. I feel like someone's asked us this before Acuna we should probably do a video or something with tips or 'cause I feel like I'm never prepared for this question. But it's different. It changes. Like, I totally changes because when their newborns are really easy to sleep a lot, you know. And so it's easier on a plane. I feel like what the newborn compared to now where Emerson's fourteen months, and she wants to be involved in everything and she wants to get the people behind us and talk to them. That's exactly how bell so. So. It's like. The whole time you're on this four hour flight your your child for four hours straight. And now they're heavier and they're sitting on your lap. And it's a so different. But. I mean tips is feed them when they're when you're going up and when you're going back down for the air pressure on their ears helps. Bring lots of just food or snacks. Yes necks. Yeah. Ways. Toilet needs things to play with and books. Looks. Yup. Go ahead. I'm just sorry. I'm trying to think. L? This is. Definitely have enough diapers and wipes and change of clothes because the blow out that happened to you at the airport is also happened to one's ear extra pair of clothes in your bag and even one that you can just like throw away just in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I. Travel her in something super comfy. Yeah. And something like we're toes are covered like a little onesie. So she's warm. Yeah. I guess like I think you travel different than I do. I think you take more baby products than I do. But that's usually because you're traveling with Evan and I'm usually traveling alone. Yeah. And so I've kind of learned to travel with less, but right? I would say if you can check your. Carseat at the not at the gate, but put it on the plane, the beginning usually airlines won't charge you for that. It's free to check rate your car seat in when you check your bags. Then I would do that check in all your bags as much as you can just take. The diaper bag in small carry on on because you're going to also do someone told me so if you put your car seat in like a carseat bag, then don't tell them this. But you just throw an extra throwing Pekka diapers. Throw in your wife's throwing them things. And then they don't and then it's extra weight that's not in your bag, but in the car, my my car back, though looked at inside, you know, where they inspected. I've had it inspected. I never have. So I don't know if they're looking for those sort of things 'cause I've had mine inspected before. Well, I've thrown thrown things in there never had expected, but I travel with like my. Like, my lounger like my the bed that you don't travel with. So that's like an extra thing. But I mean, Bella. Yeah. Lounger inside of her crib. Sorry, everybody who's like that so bad. That's just how she sleeps. She just she's fine. All right. Also, if you're I know like if you're traveling with someone it's a lot easier. But if you're traveling alone don't be afraid to ask for help from like most stranger. You know, if you're like struggling, and you can't get your stroller down to like at the gate. Ask them to help you if you're trying to well. Yeah, they will. I just don't be afraid and don't be afraid if your child cry on the plane, I have just gotten to the point where I am just not apologetic. I mean, I'll say sorry sorry, but their babies are going to cry like what if the baby's upset? What are you going to do if you're trying everything right? I mean, it's life and every like, and it could just be their ears to like have them drink something or water right yesterday. Our plane had landed and Emerson was just done. She just wanted to be on the plane, and everyone was moving so slow, and we were like thirty rose back. She was crying, and she didn't want anything else who's having. If it's just wanted to be like on the floor crawling. When all these people kept looking at me giving me looks. And I was about to say something to the late one lady, especially like, I can't do any. Things. So you're just going to have to deal with this for a couple of minutes. Like, right. I mean, he's a baby she's babies. No, she's ready. She's done. She's done. She's been on a long is done. So I've just gotten to the point where like, I know some people will make little cute little snack packages and be like sorry. My baby's crying. Here's a little rage. But I'm gonna of that. And that's very cute if you want to but also don't feel bad. I just don't feel bad anymore. Don't feel bad because it's a baby. And they're expressing themselves. Okay. Let's do like maybe one or two more questions. Yeah. Okay. So I know we were talking about this earlier someone asked. This is kind of I'm not gonna read the whole thing. But. Someone is asking about sex and about their husband not wanting to do that anymore. My husband, and I have become closers, for instance, are babies born, but it seems there's no romantic relationship intimate relationship between us not quite sure. What else do have tried to do them come on coming onto him? Try date nights. Lingerie just seems like it isn't interested is this normal started about twenty five weeks pregnant, my son is almost nine months. Listen, this is what I think everybody is so different. But I mean sex change dramatically with me and Evan like when I got pregnant I felt sick all the time. And then even after your, you know, healing and your hormones or different. And then some women wanted all the time. And I think that one husband sometimes. It's used to not maybe like, I remember Evan. In the I was like wanting it one week. And he was like, I'm sorry. I just I I got used to not having it. So now, I don't really want it. And then he kind of an some weeks. He grew some weeks, he doesn't, but I have also had a boyfriend in the past that we were together for two years and in that second year, he didn't want it at all. And I tried the laundry, and I tried all the things that wasn't working. So I don't I don't know. Is it just a difference of guys because it's not that's the thing. It's not it's not how your body is changed. It's not held. How it's not anything about the way. You look it's not anything about that. It's. It's like the guy having. An emotional response something, but I don't know what it is. Yeah. I don't without a relationship too. I think the biggest thing. Is having a conversation then because how you ended up talking of. And he's like why just kind of got used to whatever I know just having a conversation and just being like listen like this is how I'm feeling unattractive now. 'cause you'd no longer right initiating it or wanting to have sex with me, and like I need to know. Like what's going on, you know, right because we can't read minds. So you have no idea what you're partners thinking, you know. Yeah, it's a hard. It's it's so hard sex. I don't think there's anybody. Maybe there are. But I feel like most relationships do like you said dramatically change after there's a baby and sexes. One of those things. And I do think that it could just be a season. It could just be that. He's stressed about something and not by people not about you. Or maybe maybe distress about his. New responsibilities or because now his whole life has changed too. And right. I know like with Tanner 'cause like we didn't really have sex and I was pregnant and then we're so we're still working on our sex life. But sometimes like if I if I'm not in the mood and he tries initiate, and I reject him like it's happened a couple of times, then he's like, I'm I can't take the rejection any more. Yeah. I'm I'm not gonna you when you wanna come have sex with me, you're going to have to initiate it now and the rejection is hard, and I get that especially as a man. And so I don't know if that has happened with this person. And now he's just like shut down and the now and now she's feeling better. And she's recovered, and she's really more like yourself, maybe again, and she wants to have a better sex life again. And now he's like listen like there is kinda some damaged. Maybe it's like his ego a little bit or he doesn't feel. He doesn't fill desired at one point or right? But it sounds like Liz said you definitely need to have probably some long conversations. And I don't think it'll ever just change overnight, but sex is a huge part of a marriage or relationship and. I feel like yeah. There seems to be some conversations there, and I feel for her because I know what it's like to be a woman and be vulnerable. Like she put lingerie on. And she was like trying to be able and then she was was rejected. That's so hard. That would make me never want to try again, either exactly. But it's you know, it's. Sex is really about compromise too. Because, you know, lots of the time, I mean, okay. Maybe before you're married, and you are having sex. Both people want it equally sometimes, but then really in life one person wants more than another person. So that other person has to compromise, right? If you're in a relationship relationships are about compromised, so I think, you know, really sit down and have a really raw conversation about it and say, we'll a compromise has to happen. And this is how I'm feeling really ask how he's feeling. And I also say open to it. Go to therapy. I feel like league so healthy to have that third party there to give perspective on both people sides hundred percent, you know, so it's not like because Tanner, I can sometimes be very reactionary. So he says something and then it triggers me. And then I react or or the way I something and it triggers him, and he reacts with with a professional third party. I feel like sometimes you can make bigger steps than you would be destroying to do the same old same old thing. And it's not working for, you know, you're right. I want to answer one question that somebody asked me about my Dula stuff. I had a lot of Dula questions. And I promise guys next time. We do CUNY. I will talk way more about the dulas stuff. But this girl asked me, what's my one of my favorite Dula memories. And I have a couple and one of them is Emma last spurt. So I always tell people if you wanna put together like laboring playlist do that if your music person, you know, girls like, yeah, I put together my labor playlist, and so at the last birthday did was like why don't we put on your leave replace issues? Like, okay, I could probably do that. We put it on this girl wrapped for hours through her contractions. It was straight like dog hop. I would die. And she was like she knew every lyric to every song. And it was the best thing of. So much cooler than I'll ever be all I was dying so much, and then another cool memory was I was the Dula for this lady for her last two berths in her first birth was in a hospital within an patrol a lot of anxiety. And her second birth wasn't at home water birth with this amazing midwife that I love in Las Vegas. So it was just like to see the same person have just two completely different experiences. Yeah. So. Yeah, that was that. But man, I think I wanna rap playlists for when I have these. I could see you doing that. Oh. Actually, I it'd be in like this hardcore hip hop rap. And then the next song like India, right? That's very true. Do you? Remember when we used to live together and you have playing gangster rap. And I was like I can't I can't put me in a bad mood. Oh, yeah. It makes me like, I don't know. I don't know if I'm feeling like the emotions of it or something. But if it gets me like ING angry. I know. Yeah. Let's fight. I'm ready. Base. It was like this song by Nostradamus. And I think of to changes in it. And it was the song that was hot at the moment. I was Carl you have to listen to this song. Like, this is up. I know and it member, and then even gosh, Dan was over and yell. We're like like gangster wrapping it up. And I was like I hate it. Members of gangs them raise. Yeah. We do have more questions guys. And we promise that we're going to do another one of these soon. But we also have some super exciting news for you guys. I mean. Yeah, we yeah. We've hinted at this. So you guys are maybe like all right? Yeah. We know you have exciting news. But. We are doing like an extension of the babies and babies podcast on another platform called patriot. So we can bring you more content, and I think more like specific. Content in itself. So Liz wants to do Dula focused videos or little many podcasts, and she can bring more professionals and things that are dear to her heart and her passions. And then Carly you're doing what did you call? It. Would you name it? I'm calling it real Asian shit Malaysia relationship shocks with Evan Carly. So anything relationship you guys wanna ask ask Carly because she is going to be getting Evan on here. So they're going to the woman and the man's perspective of relationships and be kind of answering all of your guy's questions. And we wanted to be like a dear Abby column like send us like a story like a. Friends story or something not just like why two guys like take forever in the bathroom. But like, you know, like, what are you doing on your phone in their half? And I mean, we do you can ask those as well. But. I mean, I'm curious. But yeah, we not that. We know what we're doing because we don't let's be honest. But. Sometimes it's really nice, guys perspective and respect. And I think that question that we just answered from the woman was like my husband has one I have sex with me anymore, and I'm putting myself out there. And I'm trying all these things and it's still not working. I feel like those are the kind would want to. Would want to because then. Yeah, it might be like, hey, like, maybe he's feeling like this because I felt this way before or right? You should try this. Or maybe he's out of his mind. You know, whatever. Yeah. And it's probably a lot of those things you never know. And then I wanna do birth stories. I feel like that's something I want to touch on. And then just other things like. I've been trying to conceive, and I've been doing some like for Tilleke dieting and just some other tips and tricks that I've been trying and stuff like that. So we're just gonna have a lot of extra content on there and patriarchs differently. It's a subscription, and there's tears into each tier that you use scribe to you get like something different or you. It's like an add on and it's an ad fee. Ad free space is what right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why it's that's why it's a subscription. But a lot of people. Do it a lot of people? I know that I know who have podcast use it kind of like an extra behind the scenes kind of thing. So if you guys have certain do want us to discuss that we don't discuss on here that that we just don't have the time. Let us know. So we can start delivering more things that you guys wanna know about or when I hear about from us. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes, we're super excited to ring you guys this. It's going to be just a little like Jade side and extension and more content for you guys. So yeah, I know somebody asks what's new and exciting. What are you guys gonna be doing? So that's. Yeah. And then I know people have asked about merch, and I feel like that's something. Maybe like next year. We'll start at the beginning of the year. I feel like we should start doing something that we talk about a lot. But we don't do. Yeah. Only will eventually we will. It's on the let us know what kind of Murcia one. Do you want a mug g one is what shirt do you wanna t-shirt? Do you want a bag tote bag? I think all of the above hairpin. Do. You wanna Bo you want hair? I don't know. I don't know. That's where my head. The babes and babies hairpin listen. I'm wanna hairpin right now. My hair is really dirty. Okay. Like, oh, I get like little chopsticks ones. Ooh. Yeah. I don't know how to do those back everything else in the nineties is coming back. I knowing that bringing those bad. It's so crazy, man. I feel sexy librarians always have their hair up with like a pin through it. I put my up with a pen all the time. Your sexy librarian. Kind of like a librarian office. I feel like you wish I had my glasses on go better. But yeah, whenever my hair's down. I can't wear my hair down all day ever. And if I don't have a pony tally always sort up with a pen. That's funny lead opposite your hair looks. So pretty right now, by the way, it's really leftover decided to curl my hair for work last night have in months, and I feel my allergies are so crazy right now. And I feel like maybe I'll Chroma hair. So that I feel cute. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks so much. Like, we said we will be answering more of your questions when we do this again. And also, we'll dive deeper into all of the things on our patriots. But we love you guys so much. 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CORRUPTION 3 - The Trouble with Paradise: How Canadians Built the Offshore World
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In fact, twenty thousand companies from every corner of the world have it as their registered address rock. Obama used to talk about Oakland house all the time. I've said before either this is the largest building in the world or the largest tax scam in the world. Agoin house has become a symbol for the topsy turvy world of offshore finance this system. Works like, a fun house mirror stretching and shrinking things until they don't make sense. It's why on paper one of the world's biggest exporters. Have bananas is a frigid island off the coast of Britain or why besides the United States Canadian companies invest the most money in tiny bar Baidoa's, you'd think maybe China or Mexico or France. But Nope, eighty billion dollars goes to an island that has about as many people on it as Saskatoon, and it's why twenty thousand companies can all be registered in the same building with plenty of room to spare. And here's the thing about the offshore world Canada helped build we were the essential middlemen that came in islands building is home to Maples and Carter one of the premier offshore law firms, and that was co founded by Canadian in fact, the entire enterprise of turning the Cayman Islands into attack Savin was. Done by Canadians. If you dig just a bit deeper, you can see that vast swaths of the offshore world were created by Canadian banks businessmen and politicians who continue to profit from it today, and it's all at the expense of everyday people Canadians like to think, we're not big international players. But when it comes to tax savings where second to none. Turn down to the banking bombshell causing shockwaves around the world, so three years ago, the Panama papers released earlier to be the biggest data leak in history, or exposing how some of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people floating leaders like bladder MIR Putin, maybe hiding billions offshore the confidential filed for a Panamanian law firm gave us the clearest picture up to that point of how the offshore financial system actually works. Some of Canada's most wealthy and powerful figures are caught up in the system. The list included three former PM's Stephen broth in one Canada's wealthiest men and one of Trudeau's most important donors in even the Queen these leaks expose the blood and guts of the international finances. This is the system that ties together all of the world's richest and most powerful people the same institutions that serve major banks financial titans and multinational corporations are tied to fraudsters terrorists and kleptocrats. 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He will go to court where he's expected to be charged in what's been described as a massive eight billion dollar Ponzi scheme before his arrest ounce. Stanford was best known for his Texas drawl his lavish lifestyle and the gobs of money he made, but the Stanford Bank where he made all of his money was a fraud. The scheme itself was pretty straightforward. Stanford's Bank would take in money from investors and promise jenner's returns. But those returns would come from money brought in from new investors. Everything would work out just fine as long as people didn't ask for their money back all at once. It was a straightforward Ponzi scheme. Stanford's fraud grew to over seven billion dollars in total making it the second biggest Ponzi scheme ever uncovered a clips by only Bernie Madoff any funneled a huge chunk of his fraudulent assets through Canada zone. TD bank. T- banks relationship with Stanford was odd from the get-go. We'll start with Mr. Stanford was a personal bankrupt. So he was not fit and proper to run any Bank of tall. And that was in the public record. That's Martin Kenny. He's an international asset recovery lawyer based in the British Virgin Islands, and he's currently representing thousands of victims of Stanford's fraud in a lawsuit against TD Bank. He also happens to be Jason KENNY'S, brother. But that's neither here nor there. There was one aspect of Stanford scheme that distinguished him from your average fraudster Stanford's Bank was based out of Intego. One of the smallest countries in the Caribbean in a police known internationally for its lax regulation. As his Bank grew Stanford's power in Antigua increased by the late nineties, Stanford became by far the most powerful man on the island so much money from the fraud that he was basically running the economy, they're employing so many people building so many buildings with the money's he stole. And he went so far as to take over the banking. Regulator those supposed to keep folks like him in line. So the regulated became the regulator of himself. Stanford began to use the regulator to shut down his competition and to make it easier for him to commit his fraud. He basically had antiga as a captured state in one thousand nine hundred nine the US treasury department wince Afars to warn people not to do business with Antiguan banks as a result American banks refuse to work with them. But TD appears to have ignored those warnings Stanford's fraud likely wouldn't have been possible without TD Bank. Giving him access to American. Dollars. What is the poxy little Bank in Antigua doing receiving money from its customers or victims from all over the world to Toronto in US dollars. Why was the business purpose of that ninety five percent of the fraudulent gains flowed from Stanford's Antiguan Bank into TD? Now TD doesn't comment on matters before the courts, but in the past they've said that TD Bank had no knowledge that Stanford was engaged in fraudulent or illegal activities, and they say they were neither willfully blind or reckless as to whether those activities were taking place. In twenty twelve Stanford was convicted of multiple counts and sentenced to a hundred and ten years in an American prisons. Few of Stanford's thousands of the games have seen any of their money returned and the lawsuit against he Bank is still working its way through the Antero imports. The allegations against TD Bank and their deep involvement with the criminal based out of a catcher taxi than actually has a lot of precedence as it turns out over the last hundred years, Canadian banks men building the system that led Stanford and many others like him do this. That's system a complicated. Maze of tax havens has become absolutely are Guanzhou and like tracks and said earlier, it's estimated the between seven to thirty six trillion dollars is sitting offshore which would be as much as fourteen percent of global wealth. That's a pretty significant chunk of change. But what even is a tax haven while there's no generally agreed upon definition. You can boil it down to two words escape and elsewhere other. Would you take your money or sometimes you sell I set somewhere else in all the to skate the rules that home that you don't like? And here's the crucial point. It's not. Not just about taxes offshore haven specialize in escaping all kinds of rules environmental labor public disclosures and many specialize in secrecy. Allen Stanford was able to use Intego to go around money laundering rules in while the overwhelming amount of business. That's done. Offshore is legal. It has become V crucial pathway for corrupt governments and politicians to siphon off money from their people when you have a corrupt politician making, you know, a million dollars billion dollars, whatever with that cronies. They need someone to put that money and time, and again, they will put it all show almost always put it off shore every corrupt kleptocrat you can think of from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong UN have billion stashed away offshore accounts. And when the Panama and paradise papers revealed, it really was a who's who of the ultra wealthy and powerful from every corner of the globe. Well, at the end of the day, the people who use the system of offcial tax havens, the wealthiest and most powerful people in all of our countries. I mean, this is an issue that affects both countries and rich countries. So. So you'll we're talking about the billionaires billion clauses and multinational corporations big banks. All the biggest fuses all this system. I mean, nearly every large multinational corporation vs will have literally hundreds of subsidiaries and track savings journals full two different things. Now, you might think that taxations have been around forever. Ensure people have been hiding their assets in Swiss Bank accounts for hundreds of years. But the system we live in today that so dominated by the offshore world. That's something that really came about in the last fifty years. So how do we get to the point where so much of the world's wealth moves through tiny islands in the Caribbean? Well, that's where candidate comes in. Over one hundred years ago when much of the Caribbean was still under colonial rule Britain decided to let Canadian banks run the show that time colonial bench in the United Kingdom. But at that, we subcontracted. The the management of the financial sector. The British colonies of the Caribbean. Canadian Vang's that's a lend to know a Canadian professor and the author of a number of books on tax savings because US banks couldn't operate abroad for quite a while. Canadian banks became the indispensable middlemen providing financial services to big American companies like United fruit, but they wouldn't provide those same kinds of services to the local populations. And that's why at the beginning of the century the twentieth century there were a lot of riots in the British colonies of the Caribbeans because small fishermen small pieces couldn't have access to loans as easy as the US clients. Could by the time the nineteen fifties came around and new stateless capital was zipping around the world, Canadian banks were ready to take advantage. So at that time you had already Canadian bankers in the Caribbeans that's were able to put under pressure the local governments to transform their jurisdiction. I help them using that capital in totally free manner out of without any kind of public constraints. Take for example, what happened after the Cuban revolution? In nineteen Fifty-nine. The American mobsters had been storing their money in Cuba needed somewhere new to go. So they looked to the Bahamas end the Bahamas. What did they found? Kidney Bennett's linked to support them to welcome this capital people like Donald Fleming. A former minister finance under defend Baker took their money in their influence to the British colony and they helped shape the way offshore systems work for the decades that followed Donald Fleming was representing this. And Donald something is affirmative minister of finance on decent Baker. And he was instrumental in influential in creating laws that allow corporations to richest your assets without any sation weed out we talked that he kind of supervision from the state Fleming. One said, quote, I have found that being a banker NASO is far more profitable than being minister, finance and frosty Ottawa that convergence of banking government and crime was best embodied by Stafford sands. He was the Bahamian tourism minister sat on the board of Royal Bank of Canada and had deep ties to organize crime, including two famed mobster mayor Lansky by the nineteen eighties. The Bahamas had become the main conduit for drugs to come to the United States and the Americans noticed do you start to put under pressure not only the Bahamas but Canada too because everybody you'd at Canada was behind all this. A US Senate report in nineteen eighty three noted that quote in the Caribbean. One major Canadian International Bank has consistent reputation for encouraging dirty money. They were talking about Donald Fleming's old Bank. The Bank of Nova Scotia in win an American court demanded that the Bank of Nova Scotia release records related to a drug traffic investigation. The Canadian government denounced it as an attack on our sovereignty. The allegations that plagued the Bank of Nova Scotia in the nineteen eighties. Bear a striking resemblance to a TD Bank is being accused of today in the Bahamas wasn't the only place that Canadians help turn into a tax haven. When a Calgary alderman named Jim McDonald came to the Cayman Islands in the nineteen fifties. There was no electricity. Only one road in the mosquitoes are said to be so thick that cows choked on them, but he and a number of other Canadian, lawyers, they convince the government to draft laws to turn it into a tax haven, and that's transformed the Cayman Islands into an international financial hub synonymous with the ultra wealthy. And then we come to the case of Barbados Canada created the verbatim. This is attacks in the nineteen eighties. It was during the sharp fair of time where Joe Clark was prime minister at the time Canada was signing a number of tax treaties with countries like South Korea, Spain Italy to stop something called double-taxation in general. This is a pretty sensible move. If a company like bombard, yea has a subsidiary in Italy, and they pay taxes there. This kind of treaty would allow them to tell the CRA that they shouldn't tax the profits from Italy because they've already paid it out to the Italians but Canada also signed one of those treaties with our betas, which makes no sense Canada signed that treaty with a country where the the income tax rate is less than one percents. So how kid he didn't corporation? That's have for instance, clients abroad to create a subsidiary. Barbados to send envoys from that subsidiary to make as if an activity was occurring there to register prophet of the the the VAR betas do playlets is there. Oh point twenty five percent tax on that capital. Do Senate back to Canada then to say to the Canadian fiscal authorities. I've already paid tax on that capital zero point twenty five percent. It's disgusting. I won't pay tax twice. That's why Barbados a country of two hundred and fifty thousand people gets more Canadian vestment at least on paper than China or Mexico or France. It's estimated that Canadians of lost taxes on around eighty billion dollars worth of capital because of this arrangement. That's money that the Canadian government could be using on essential services at home when we white for Howard's into hospital is because of ties evens when we wage for forty minutes, minus twenty for bus, it's because a tax incidence when they're there is not in your high school, the suport your need for your kids. It's because tax havens because taxi events allow wealthy individuals and powerful multinational corporations to rob the country. They are in and Canadian government after Canadian government has really done nothing to change this. The system of tax havens, Canada helped create has serious consequences around the world, and we are in the world the globalization in which countries exists to allow Wilsey people and powerful corporation who have access formerly to impunity. It makes it impossible for countries to govern corporations in any meaningful way today. Big corporations don't have to ask themselves what they wanna do is legal or not the questions about where you register your activity. Whatever it is. So that it becomes legal. The story of tax havens is very complicated. Honestly, you could do an entire series just on the offshore system. And you'll still only barely scratch the surface and the offshore world does have its defenders. Then includes Martin Kenny the lawyer suing TD Bank. He points out that would've tracked criminals of the austral world is not that they're lawless places where anything goes it's at the laws and regulations are actually strong. No grief will hand the proceeds of his favorite to another. That's why places that don't have a long tradition of the rule of law. Don't end up becoming tax havens, they're drawn to our sisters because they need to preserve the value that they've taken and hide it the paradox is that they're hiding in places where they're exposed because we have systems where they can't easily bribe judges and. And that's what allows a fraud investigator like Kenny to be able to do his work. While those subtleties are important. We shouldn't lose the forest for the trees, the offshore system means that people in companies were wealthy enough. Played by a set of rules at the rest of us. Don't have access to. But honestly, we can't just blame those small places like the Caymans or the British Virgin Islands nor the two biggest tax havens in the world are not in the Caribbean. It's the old city of London in England and the state of Delaware, remember, ugly house, the one I told you about at the top of the show with a twenty thousand companies registered to its address. There's actually another building in Wilmington, Delaware, and it has two hundred eighty five thousand companies registered to address. When the Panama papers in the paradise papers were leaked, the world's attention was focused in on tax havens and await never had before. But little appears to obtain. And I think there's good reason to be pessimistic when a system benefits exclusively the richest and most powerful people world, it makes it just that much harder to do anything about it. And that's your episode of comments for the week. I'm Marsha man. This was our third episode in our series on corruption. 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