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"roy williams" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"That's funny names Scott. I will say I got two of the four final four teams, correct? So I have no apologies to make that's right me too. And I don't know how many people have more than that. I mean who I don't need it kept Cronin didn't pick UCLA to go to the final four. I'll say that we should get have corroded on the show. He's entertaining. He is super entertaining home. So Archer we got beard. We got Roy Williams retiring. We got the final four. The other thing that I will talk about 4 minutes before we get on the final four. Rob is over. Oklahoma the opening there and I put a couple of names out there that I think are in the mix squarely in the mix right now and Porter Moser a guy that didn't get Marquette didn't get DePaul. I don't know if he was a guy or not. He was not the guy Marquette or Indiana. I don't know what happened if he was turned down to Paul wasn't interested or whatnot, but He's in the mix it up, People would be surprised at that because he's at Loyola Chicago, but he's worked. Do you think about his working on a state? He's worked at Arkansas Little Rock. It's not like he's just a month ago. I think people think that way you work from a Juris at Utah at st. Louis. I'm sorry. You know to me what do you think of that if it ends up happening? I mean to me he was such a good fit at Marquette and I'm guessing that they didn't you know approached him cuz they had chocolate right tied up. That would be a surprise eggs a good coach. I just think that you know, it's going to depend on financials. I think that if we were talking about this earlier if you can double your salary or or you know, all of a sudden the the financing it make that much sense, I do know just from the one time I've talked to him was the final four Minneapolis. He he did talk about how much he loves living in Chicago. He's a big Cubs fan page go to the game the summer like that that definitely is something that's to take into account and Norman is much different than Chicago, Illinois a good college town, but it's certainly going to be a different kind of Lifestyle deal down there. But hey, it's hard to say when they're going to say you're making two million and now you're making for that sounds pretty good to a lot of people. Let me tell you guys a little bit about our partners over bet River Sportsbook. If you haven't signed up with that Rivers yet now is the time that River Sportsbook is offering a $250 match.
"roy williams" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"And when he when Game roy williams was so accommodating in just a nice person. I really enjoyed. I don't get to do many. Acc against but i did a a louisville north carolina game. I first year of doing this randomly. I got the old switcheroo That if off moved off of trae young in texas to a north carolina louisville but yeah Gava sad thing for me. He's been too stable. You know as a kid. He was a cazes carolina and man. It's i know we talked about this earlier. But there are a lotta guys did in the next probably five six seven years are are going to be hanging up and it's going to be really weird. Yeah there are yet onto it but what. We won't a second here. There aren't a ton of candidates in the family but I like where does where does where right for you. Among the elite coaches in college basketball is he. Top five is top ten. you know. Obviously you've got like the guys like wooden k. That'd be at a different level after that three national titles. He said to the best jobs in america and a lot of people hammer him for that route. A lot of people years were like he rolls the ball out you know. He's had the two best jobs in college basketball. I don't think he quite got his his his credit. Yeah i mean he's still going to get the players there and you still got a coach ma up. He had to work hard to get the kansas job. Dole that out to you and me. I yeah he he certainly has been in two places. But i don't know you know you mentioned. Would you mentioned coach k. It can't be that far behind. He's gotta be yeah. I think he's the next top six seven coach in college basketball. I mean he had a phenomenal career in. I don't think you can ever dina guy for for where he's add it. He had to get there first and he was carolina. He paid his dues that job as an assistant in a guy that the carolina family trusted. And yeah i i. I think he's got to be one of the top six or seven coaches that. We've had college basketball. Yeah he was always very fair to me even when you criticize him Extremely fair we had a couple of mishaps. All this honestly wasn't either one of our faults. i. I'm trying to remember all the specifics. But it was basically when all this stuff came out about the academic scandal. They're a bunch of carolina players that Sent a letter to me. I believe is. Pin bunch of players sent a letter to me. Email me a letter and roy for some reason. Didn't think.
"roy williams" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"Be at a different level after that. I mean three thousand titles. He said two of the best jobs in America and a lot of people Hammer him for that route. A lot of people over the years were like he rolls the ball out. You know, he's had the two best jobs in college basketball. Well, I don't think he quite got his his credit. Yeah. I mean, he's still going to get the players there and he's still got a coach em up, but he had to work hard to get the Kansas job tonight. We just do lunch to you and me so but yeah, he certainly has been into really good places, but I don't know. You know, you mentioned one. You mentioned Coach K. He can't be that far behind. He's gotta be the type of next year. Yeah. I think he's in the next he's top-six said coach in college basketball. I mean he had a phenomenal career and I don't think you can ever Ding A guy for for where he's at it he had to get there first and he was a Carolina he paid his dues to get that job as an assistant and you know a guy that the Carolina family trusted and yeah, I think he's gotta be one of the top six or seven churches that we've had in college basketball. Yeah, he was always very fair to me. You know, even when when you criticize him extremely Fair we had made a couple of of mishaps with whom you want involved. I know this one honestly wasn't either one of our faults. I'm trying to remember all the specifics but it was basically when all this stuff came out about the academic schedule. There are a bunch of Carolina players that sent a letter to me I believe how far is it s p n or maybe it's CBS bought a bunch of players sent a letter to me emailed me a letter and Roy for some reason didn't think that I used the letter or something like that that I did not do what the players wanted me to do. And I I send along too. I think it was maybe the desk or whatnot and and then it was kind of out of my hands. So I remember it wouldn't let me into practice birth. Usually he was great about let me and I had no idea why the next year I asked him to go to practice..
North Carolina Tar Heels basketball coach Roy Williams retires
"North Carolina coach Roy Williams announced his retirement after 18 seasons coaching the Tar Heels. I feel very fortunate that we've had him for so long, it's such a high level. One of the great coaches in the game of basketball more reaction to the retirement of UNC legend Roy Williams with over 900 wins and three national championships to his name. When asked about why he chose to retire now, Williams said, quote every time somebody asked me how long I was going to go. I'd always say as long as my health allows me to do it, But deep down inside, I knew the only thing that would speed that up. Was if I did not feel that I was any longer the right man for the job. I no longer feel that I'm the right man for the job. Williams went unbeaten in March Madness first round matchups. 29 You know until this year, the first round loss to Wisconsin breaking the streak. Sixers Garden national champion with UNC Danny Greene talked on Keyshawn J. Will and Zubin about his former coach, and what made him so legendary. He's been doing a strong as I've been alive and he's been a legend since then, since before probably I was born and he's a legendary stuff before me and during my time there and after He's one. You know a number of championships, and that's not even that doesn't speak on his success to me what he's done off the court and what he's pledged that school in other schools, eyes helped out in the community there, North Carolina and you know not just there, but many places in the world. So to me, that just speaks legendary. You know, outside the court just many ways you could be, um You know, a legend is many ways. You can be a hero. As many ways you could be a champion and world wins is the definition of all those. Those things even said the in before I was born. ESPN College basketball analyst Jay Billa spoke on Spain and Fitz about who could be a successor to Williams at UNC. I think it'll have to be somebody within the Carolina family. So the first thing you think of his Hubert Davis, who played there for Dean Smith, that has been a system under Roy Williams, the last 89 years. Some like that, and Um, you know, the only the only thing that people would bring up with Hubert is he has not yet been a head coach, but he's played a million years. The MBA there, you know, Roy Williams had never been a head coach when he took over Kansas, so I'm not all hung up on this head Coach thing. I think it's great. I'd rather I'd rather have Ah, someone with head coaching experience that not, But when you got somebody's got his Hubert, I wouldn't hesitate to make that higher. But also that the other one that I think Will be right in the mix of those West Miller, the head coach of UNC Greensboro, He played for Roy Williams on the 05 National championship team as backup guard and he's been an outstanding music, really young head coach. UNC Greensboro, and he's done really well there, but for the last couple of tournaments that were held, and he had a really good team this year with Isaiah Miller is his best player, making the double A. So he's He's another really good option
North Carolina Coach Roy Williams Retires After 3 National Titles
"The legendary roy williams announced his retirement after a pretty frustrating season despite north carolina standards. What can you tell us about his decision to hang it up and the timing of this announcement. Yeah it's been a rough two years. They weren't very good last year. Either before the pandemic ended the season prematurely so i don't think north carolina is in the best position right now with roy williams leaving but it still north carolina. It's not like there's a pile of ash he's leaving behind that you've got to build the thing from the ground up. I mean this is a program that can get better overnight with the right guy in charge. You know there's some thought that this may have been percolating for awhile and the announcement was maybe gonna come after the ncaa tournament so as not sort of overlap with the end of things here the final. Four in indy. But doing it now doing it just a couple of days before both final four games to kate that yeah i mean north carolina in roy realized. Someone needs to be in that chair sooner than later to really build for next year.
North Carolina's Roy Williams Announces Retirement
"Pretty big in the college basketball world on thursday. The legendary roy williams announced his retirement after a pretty frustrating season despite north carolina standards. What can you tell us about his decision to hang it up and the timing of this announcement. Yeah it's been a rough two years. They weren't very good last year. Either before the pandemic ended the season prematurely so i don't think north carolina is in the best position right now with roy williams leaving but it still north carolina. It's not like there's a pile of ash he's leaving behind that you've got to build the thing from the ground up. I mean this is a program that can get better overnight with the right guy in charge. You know there's some thought that this may have been percolating for awhile and the announcement was maybe gonna come after the ncaa tournament so as not sort of overlap with the end of things here the final. Four in indy. But doing it now doing it just a couple of days before both final four games to kate that yeah i mean north carolina in roy realized. Someone needs to be in that chair sooner than later to really build for next
Roy Williams, UNC basketball coach retires
"Williams announces his retirement. Roy williams nine hundred three wins three national titles guy. One eighty percent of his games at kansas. Neither one eighty percent of probably would quit couple years ago. What percent of percentage games north carolina crazy. His success is remarkable.
North Carolina’s Roy Williams to retire
"Announced Hall of Fame basketball coach Roy Williams is retiring after a 33 year career that includes three national titles two weeks ago, Williams and it is 18th season What the Tar Heels and also had a successful run at Kansas. Before that, Williams won a total of 903 games. Sports
College Basketball Update: UNC's Williams Fifth Men's Coach To Hit 900 Wins
"Victory in college basketball's Roy Williams became the fifth men's coach to get to 900 wins North Carolina rally to be Florida State 78 to 70 just getting started in Tempe, Washington State against Arizona State. Huskies dropped to five and 20 on the year four in 16 of the Pac 12 after lost Arizona, 75 to 74 Wildcats get in the game winning basket with six seconds two planes and they're right with 18, including five threes to lead five players in double figures. Gonzaga. 25 point favorites at home over LMU that game coming up at seven o'clock, the Zags a perfect 23. Oh, on the year. Sports attended 40 past the hour. I'm Dave Lewis. Come on news.
It’s the same old story for North Carolina basketball in loss to the Wolfpack
"On sunday. We spent several minutes discussing a disappointing blueblood with the hall of fame coach kentucky led by john calipari today. We'll spend another few minutes on another disappointing blueblood with another hall of fame coach this time it's north carolina and roy williams the tar heels fell at nc state on tuesday. Seventy nine seventy six so now. Five and three. The other losses are texas in iowa best win over stanford ladder you and i both had north carolina projected as the third best team in the acc in the preseason. Are we still confident. Unc is a top three in the acc. No did i really have them third. I looked double checks man. it's not ideal right now. we both had it. We both had it. Virginia duke north carolina in that order. Well i didn't have carrots. So here's where. I differed in the preseason with some of the projections yours and and others. I did not have carolina ranked in the top twenty five portion of my one two three fifty seven. I i put carolina twenty eight. And i remember before like settling on an ultimate order like my first initial like. Let me throw everything at the wall. I think i'd carolina like thirty six or thirty seven and the reason was they were so poor last year. I mean historically bad. It was one of the five or six worst seasons in school history. Statistically that i was just. I wasn't totally sold on them. Going from fourteen and nineteen a season ago to being if your top. Three team in the acc You know that's probably a four seat at worst. And i wasn't all in on him there. I thought okay. Maybe they can get along the lines of a five or six seed and that was really what wound me wind up with me. Booting them up a little bit. But at this point you know. I watched the majority of that. Nc state game. I would argue. It wasn't even a three point game. Nc state truly beat them by six or seven points now five and three losses the losses all respectable so. It's an interesting situation with unc. Here lost texas in a really really good game championship. Which was obviously nashville. Then they lose at iowa but it wasn't that competitive ninety three eighty. Now they take the road loss against nc state. The win against kentucky and cbs sports classic has almost no value. The win over stanford is solid but otherwise charleston. Unlv north carolina central their next game at georgia tech a week from one. We're talking here. On december thirtieth so i think there is still the chance and with all due respect as always to leaky black here. And he's actually. I think he's. He's been good in spots but they're not as good as they should be. I still really love. The frontline is still think. This could be one of the courts in america but it should be noted fourteen thousand nine hundred last season. Now it's five three. And i'm not gonna guarantee you that this team is heading to the instability tournament and in the preseason. Unc got by on its jersey name. I don't know i. I was always a little hesitant there and some of that has come to the surface. This is clearly clearly not a top twenty five team right now. In north carolina as you mentioned the go fourteen and nineteen last season and the reason that i had them in the preseason top twenty five and one thought that they would have a really nice bounceback season because they in elite recruiting class featuring three five star freshman. The way they're supposed to go from fourteen and nineteen to really good is that three five-star freshmen are great. And they're all fine. I guess but none of them are playing like freshman of the year candidates like against nc state day. Ron sharpe had six points. Fourteen minutes walker kessler had three points and twelve minutes. Caleb love had eleven point four assists two turnovers in twenty eight minutes. Like if you're five star freshman aren't gonna perform like five star freshman consistently well. Then you're not going to go from from bad to to really good. You can go from bad to good from bad to respectable from bad to an ncaa tournament team. But you're not going to be elite unless you five star freshman perform at an elite level. They are not doing that right now.
Big 12, Big Ten, ACC among tourneys to ban fans
"On the college level all the big conferences announcing that as of Thursday fans will be restricted from their games some of the conferences like the big east were a little slower than others to make the decision but ultimately they came to the same decision as the other conferences the NC double a saying it's tournament as a whole will not have fans in the stands Wednesday we had Boston University with the patriot league we have the SEC tournament the big ten tournament Big East Tournament ACC tournament which is here on ESPN radio the ACC night ending with Syracuse beating North Carolina tar heels coach Roy Williams this is a very serious problem you know last night I made a joke about how that it frustrated me because they said people it was sixty when I'm sixty nine but this is the most serious problem that I can remember in our country that there's no quick answer for you know the stock market's going crazy well it's just see if you can do some things but this is a this is a virus this is a possibility of people getting very sick and dying and it's something that in my mind is more serious than anything I can
UNC's Lost Season
"Jeff Bordello. I'm a little shook. North Carolina finished the regular season. They lose to do because that's fine we're used to that but they're the lowest seed in the ACC tournament North Carolina. So some how you would view this season for the tar heels. I mean they're arguably the most disappointing team in the country. Jeff Portillo is a college basketball insider for ESPN. And I know we have to take some other factors into account with injuries. And Karl Anthony and things like that but you know this was a preseason top ten team that like you said is going to be the bottom seed in the ACC tournament in the ACC is not goodness here. It's a it's a pretty down league you know. There are Miami. Nbc in Wake Forest Pittsburgh. None of those teams are very good and Carolina is at the bottom of all that and to me. That's shocking you know. This is one of the best of all time blueblood like I said a top ten preseason team and four months later five later. They're the worst team in the ACC. It's one of the bigger stories in college football this season and I think you could really make the case that there are the biggest disappointment in college hoops so let's go back to October. Preseason rankings come out North Carolina's in the top ten. They're sitting at number nine refresh everybody in what the real expectations were coming into this season for this team. I mean they a lot of guys from last year but they did bring in what people expected was an impact recruiting class was led by Karl Anthony Centerpiece of Roy Williams retooling effort. It's chole Anthony. Going the top freshman in the country making his debut tonight from of a raucous crowd here that the dome he was expected by pretty much everyone to be the most productive freshman in the country. That's how he wasn't high school that's where he was on the scene. He was a guy that was going to put up big points. He was gonNA put a big assist numbers. He's going to rebound and he was going to win games. That's just that's just what he was at the high school level and people expected him to to be that same player Carolina and it. Kinda set up perfectly for him because he was able to come in and this was a team that didn't have any real goto guys coming back. So they said hey collapsed. And you're getting the ball from day one and you're gonNA lead us and you know it kind of looked good. You know in the first game of the season. He was terrific. He had thirty four points. Eleven rebounds five assists debut for coal. Anthony lost a lot of stars to the NBA. After last season with the go one superstore Chambal. Whom the feeling was that? You know this team is going to be okay. Even despite the losses and along with him they brought into Grad transfer. Is that you know. We're probably two of the five or seven best. Grad transfer is in the country was Christian Keeling from Charleston southern just NPR's from William and Mary and and that added some experience at its veteran leadership and combined with a couple of other guys are Mondo Baker was a five star recruit garrison brooks was a two year starter download so i. I just think that people thought you combine the newcomers with the guys returning and even though there weren't any stars coming back from last year's team there was enough here to to compete for an ACC title and Roy Williams has done this before where his team is is written off a little bit in the preseason and under rank behind teams like Duke and he finds a way to win and that's just what he does and and I think people expected him to do it again with the guys coming in and coming back well so now you've got a team that has preseason expectations they get into. The season was the first time this season there was the first real sign of concern that the season might not go the way some had hoped. I think it was a couple of things I think one was even when they were winning the game. They won their first five games of the season. But even some of those the Notre Dame win the Alabama win. There were some signs of. Is this team going to be as good as we thought were Williams? I you get the sense. He hasn't loved all aspects of his teams. Play here today. You know he has. He has not name barely beat. Notre Dame eleven point margin was it. It wasn't addictive. How close the season opener was against Notre Dame so I think there was. Okay let's give it time. Let's let Cole Anthony. And the other freshman get acclimated and this team will figure it out but they lose by twenty five at home 'til Ohio state to start December. You know then they lose that. Virginia you know losing effort gene is not not a usually a big concern. This is not a vintage Virginia team and I think most people realize that at that time and then they lose to Wofford. They ended up finishing below five hundred in the southern conference. Terriers come to Chapel Hill and knock off a top twenty five North Carolina squad. And that's when the you know the eyebrow start raising what's going on with his team are they poised to be this massive disappointment and obviously once call. Anthony gets hurt. The wheels fall off from their breaking news. Call Anthony out four to six weeks after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery to repair a partially torn meniscus. Well at that point you know maybe things are a little bit concerning. But they're going to get two. Acc conference play. You said it the ACC not the best conference in the world so they get to the ACC schedule. How's that go form? You look at their schedule and you said okay they can. They can weather the storm three straight home games in. Acc play against Georgia Tech Pit Clemson and they had games against Pittsburgh Virginia Tech Miami even a bad UNC team or even a a mediocre UNC. Team could go six in Owen. Those games it was kind of the the bottom half of the league and they went one and five losing the first five games of that stretch. Seventy nine seventy seven double-overtime Virginia tech knocking off North Carolina. I think that was almost getting the end. When you look back the schedule what would be the one moment that sort of pushed everything over to the point in return honestly I think it was after Columbia comes back a long ways away. Eleven Games without call Anthony but he will play tonight. Yeah the five hundred. Unc team suddenly. Jay has a lot of juice and he'd be Miami. Nc State then call and he comes back for a home game in Boston College and you know. They weren't very good at the time but they tended ten three and six in the ACC and you know the the narrative was kind of okay. If Cole Anthony Comes back the committee will look at them and say you know with call. Anthony this is an NCAA tournament team. He's going to be on the roster in the NCAA tournament they're going to factor that in so I think people started wondering can. Unc string together. Some wins and make a late run and in his first game back. You lose at home to Boston. College straight three other time. He's spoiled return. I think that was the sign that it's not going to happen so that's not. Obviously the only epic moment we all continue to think about from the season tickets back to the first game between North Carolina and Duke. The Duke Game was a game that that could have turned things around at least changed the narrative about Carolina and to lose in that fashion. Another late blown lead. Losing to your biggest rival do comes back not to be Carolina to me. That was that was a really low mon it just because it it could have been really a season changing moment for Carolina and the way it happened it just it kind of sent them even further down into the season
"roy williams" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Love to take Roy Williams good so that I despise come to see you folks I am not disappointed in my team I'm not disappointed my team's effort you have to congratulate them if you don't care who won a game you had to enjoy that is a big time college basketball okay I care who won the game so how did not enjoy final outcome their coach K. also remembering the great dean Smith one we became really good friends took a while once we started when at the level that he won all the time I understood him and he knew I understood him you don't break a sprint record or any record unless you're running with the bass I thank both of our programs have made each other better he made our program better by us competing against him I'll be forever grateful to him he was the guy who when they're choosing the Olympic coach in the room said Mike should happen I was surprised because that's a hell of a thing and that is straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart now speaking of North Carolina the Kansas Jayhawks sixty to forty six win against TCU gave them thirty one consecutive twenty win seasons matching north Carolina's record it also made bill self the second youngest head coach with seven hundred career victories as you do okay as will get twenty points and fifteen rebounds Stefan Dotson at eighteen points and eleven assists self now seven hundred to fourteen following that win over twenty seven seasons with the Jayhawks oral Roberts Tulsa and illinois' that's is the nation's third ranked team how about the nation's top ranked team.
Shortest NBA Career, Ever
"Royce. It's been exactly ten years this Saturday since James Names on curry who I should note is not related to Steph curry made his NBA debut. I found this story fascinating. Because here's a guy who has seemingly on on the cusp of achieving all of his dreams. And then poof it's over. He's out of the League. How did you go about finding him? It was a really long on kind of winding path to it and it was somewhat of a passion project. Part of me was I was kind of scared. That's a story outside my comfort zone a little a bit to just completely cold call somebody and track them down and find out because you know on the other side of it. You're going to see like the story is three point nine seconds right and then it's open ended after that. Where's he at? What's he doing is the jailing does he oversees? He'd still trying to play basketball. I have no idea you you can put these stories in your mind. I kinda WanNa know about that. And then they kind of just sort of get lost in the shuffle and you keep thinking about it and you keep wondering about it. And that's what level with me is that finally it was like you know what I'm going to find out about this and I got kind of approval to pursue this story and at that time it was like okay. We don't know where he's at. You know he could be still playing professional basketball somewhere in like Moscow or Turkey. You're the Israel or wherever and it just so happened that when I finally got in touch a to a James on curry through instagram of all places. Because that's how you are a reporter in two thousand twenty. He got back to me and he told me to call them and I said so. Where do you live now? And he told me he lived in ended Oklahoma. which just so happened to be an hour away from me so sad to say I mean up? My editors were quite happy that the travel budget got significantly reduced instead of flying to Moscow or something had to drive up the road. Enid so Royce you reach out to James on you find out. He lives near you. You can get his story you were drawn to his story because he had the shortest career in NBA history. Three point nine seconds. Did he know that when I approached him very much so if you type it in on Youtube if you type in his name. There's a video out there that somebody made and it's got over a million views or something like that and it's kind of like a awhile did you fact in the NBA and James on understood that he was basically the answer to a trivia question and not a flattering trivia. Your question was he a highly touted recruit so james on Curry was really a household name Nina and so much so that in North Carolina lineup basketball history. He's a true legend. He scored more points in high school than Michael Jordan ever heard of them. James Worthy David Thomson and he said that record and he was a five star recruit. He was committed in North Carolina. He was a big big deal and people from all around the state would come to watch him play. He was routinely scoring forty thirty. Five fifty fifty five points at night. He had a dedicated beat reporter that would come and follow him around. He was destined to be the next Great College Basketball Player order and thereby the next grade professional basketball player so from there does he get all the offers two big schools fast track to the NBA. Say He did have the office. Everybody recruiting him. It was it was set up for him to go play for Roy Williams at North Carolina and lead them to national championships and get drafted. Be One and done player go the NBA. All that type of stuff was set up for him to happen. The crazy Roese thing about it was. He plays a game against Graham High School and I think he scored forty seven in that game is team was on the fast track to a state title and the next morning. He shows up at school and he gets called into the principal's office so he walks down the hall. He walks in the principal's office and he sees a bunch of police officers officers in there. And he thinks that they're in there. Because I want to ask him for an autograph and instead of that they put him in handcuffs. James on was caught selling drugs to an undercover cop. James is on sold him. Marijuana and his total take Fort Meena was ninety five dollars so while he was dropping shopping. forty-seven on Graham High School. They were printing up a warrant for his arrest. So at that point everything completely changed from didn't take long for North Carolina to pull his scholarship. He was kicked out of school kicked off the basketball team. He finished high school at an alternative school and really at that point just didn't know if he was going to get another chance. So what does he decide to do. Angst as you might believe since he was so so good some other schools got involved but this kind of random place jumped out to him and really kind of hooked victim and that was Oklahoma State University and part of what Oklahoma State had to sell for him was their coach. Eddie Sutton was a recovering alcoholic and he understood second chances and of course he brought him to Oklahoma state because first of all he's really good second of all because he saw something in James on and thought it was worthwhile taking that shot on. So how does he we do. When he gets to Oklahoma state he was good? There was a game where he was playing in Madison Square Garden. Achieving his dream they're playing against Syracuse. And he was part of a big second half running Ron and three on the insist this cowboys happily Dick. Vitale called him a diaper Dandy and it was a dream come true feeling feeling this outboard played one of the greatest games in all time in college basketball history at triple overtime game against Kevin Durant and Texas. The Dow Jones scored forty something Durant scored forty something and it's known as to be one of the Great Games it starts getting you know. Draft Talk. Scouts are coming to watch him play so it all kind of felt like it. It had come together for James on and he was going to have a shot after all. So curry gets drafted by the Bulls. What happens next? So it shows the Bulls and he's he's sent down to the D. League. He's brought backup. He sent back down. He's brought backup. He's bouncing back and forth and in his mind. He's he's not really getting his chance. And he the as a couple incidents that again pop-up form one. He was at the D. League showcase in Idaho and he gets busted on public urination and gets arrested for it the Bulls suspend them one game. And now it's like you know he's got another thing kind of tagged with them there and here's another incident where he's driving to the airport in Chicago Gago. He says he gets lost on the way to the airport and he misses his flight. Going to New York. And that's another strike from the Bulls and in his mind that that was one that like they couldn't get over over. There was a time where their coach Scott Scales kind of told the team this practices an open tryout for playing time and he felt like he showed everybody up he was he was crushing it. He killed everybody thirty. On the court. And the scrimmage and Scott pulled him aside and I think that scowls thought it was a compliment but it really wasn't at least not to James on but he said you're going to be the best player in the D. League and and that kind of crush James on spirits and GE just goes through the season and he just never gets a chance with them and they end up cutting them after the year so he gets cut by the Bulls else and after that he's bouncing around the Euroleague D. League teams. How does he make his way back to the NBA? Hey bounces around. He gets them chances and he gets drafted. He's actually the first draft pick ever for the Bakersfield Jam. There the D League affiliate for the Los Angeles Clippers Clippers and he's doing great becomes a D. League all star and he finally gets his call he gets the call. Uh what happens next so he gets a call up and suit up for the clippers there in Boston. They're playing the Celtics. It's late third quarter. There's some foul trouble issues. Injury issues for Rondo now. The final possession for the Boston Celtics. The James on gets says number called Mike Dunleavy says game with three point nine seconds ago. There's three point nine seconds left on the clock in the third quarter James on jumps up runs runs the scores table and look look comes in James on Curry Hey is first appearance ever in an NBA game. What a thrill? It's gotTa be dream fulfilled hears his my name called out in the arena runs out on the court. He's guarding region. Rondo Sri couldn't have expected it right at this moment a week ago. I sure didn't expect Eddie. There's a quick play run. Not much happens doesn't touch. The ball doesn't do anything other than just kind of stand there with a half. The A reasonable job lookers pretty happy to be down by only five buzzer. Sounds runs off the court and De'andre Jordan. Subs is in for him to start the fourth quarter and he never steps on the floor again and like literally never because the next morning he wakes up. He gets a call from the clippers the next morning telling him he's been
Williams: 'Fire me' after Clemson's 1st win at UNC
"Right West Virginia earned its seven straight win at home sixty six fifty four over number twenty two Texas Tech Clemson be North Carolina for their first win in sixty tries in Chapel Hill UNC now eight made prompting Roy Williams to save this post game until bubbly should probably fire me and probably wouldn't be a bad idea coach is supposed to help these kids I didn't help much on this game is solely on Roger Simon I'm thirty six I notice all about this is more not to me for
UNC-Alabama: Roy Williams Postgame
"Well Roy Williams his seventeenth season at his alma mater North Carolina four hundred fifty eight win just one hundred thirty three losses in this career eight seventy six up to thirty four town that's pretty good and yesterday's when put in a tie for fourth place in division one basketball history in coaching victories tied even now with the great at all rob here his overall thoughts on it eight hundred seventy six when the tar heels victory over Alabama yesterday was pretty game I've ever watched we have twenty turnovers they've been averaging over twenty we only got them fourteen so that was a good but I think the back forty second shot opportunities we shoot for us down the stretch when we got it eight or nine and then select a score with me is the first shot and get a rebound and put it back in I think that was a huge part of the force there are plenty of similarities between Roy Williams tar heels in the maze of blue especially after eight both teams committed at least twenty turnovers both also that a player back
2019 NCAA championship: Virginia wins its first national title
"Like this. Virginia that seventy five seventy three next to going over time. How big is younger. My goodness. Monsters twenty seven hundred Westwood One. Aa radio network hunter coming up big twenty seven points in the Egypt game. Kyle guy had twenty four Virginia hits all twelve free. Throw attempts in the overtime period. And they come away with the title as you heard eighty five seventy seven in OT. They beat Texas Tech the eighth national title game to go to overtime the first since two thousand eight when Kansas beat Memphis the first national title game between two teams that had never previously appeared in the title game since nineteen seventy nine Magic Johnson's Michigan state team against Larry bird's. Indiana state team Virginia wins this one first title game between schools that had previously never wanted title since nineteen Ninety-one UNLV beat Duke, Tony Bennett becoming the ninth active division one coach to win a national title. I think it was a terrific game to see how these. Guys, played the one thing I said to him before in the locker room. I said you guys faced pressure that no team in the history of the game is faced will really all year. But but being down fourteen against garner web. I said, and you did not panic in that moment, and you fought, and you found a way out I said that I think has prepared you for this moment to the handle the pressure or the the intensity of national championship game. And these guys stepped up to me that was it appeared from Istambul to be a high level game. And you know, we scored eighty five that was in that setting. So good stuff. Hey, coach Bennett. Zach peerless Augusta free press there's a picture in your house. You've talked about before these three guys. Jay huff part of that twenty sixteen class. They've seen a lot of things now and their time at you've yet what are the emotions now attached to that picture? And you know, how does this change that picture in the feelings that you'll see when you see it? Yeah. When they came on the recruiting. Visit remember telling them, look, you're. The foundation has been laid by guys, you know, Joe, and Malcolm are here and all the guys went before. And we had one Sommese championships who've been to be lead eight I said, we're asking to build on that foundation. Even at that house on the hardest step. But if you're willing said, we'll take a chance at mentioned, the rocky post just I said, I want guys wanna chance to title fight and see them come in either as young men or boys and grow into men this season. And I'll mention what happened last year that that can only mature you. I don't know of anything else that would allow these guys to build a handle this situation, the playthrough stuff and to have a perspective and poise and resiliencey unless they went through something that hard, and they're very there's really good players. They don't probably get enough credit. Well, I think someone do their town. But they had something different about them collectively. I just one of our themes. I told them before the Auburn game as just bring your two fish and five loaves. It's a story in the bible. And I said it'll be enough. I said it'll it'll be enough for the masses. I said when you guys play the right way, the collectiveness of it takes over. And I've watched it, and I've stepped back, and I've seen this now seen mature through everything. And for them to do what they did, you know and how they've won. It's a great story really ofensive -ly. It seemed as if the Andre took charge there at the end you telling take charge or sometimes it seems like he's trying not. To take. That's you know, Dan regularly. Let's come in that he he I think he grew up in a way in this tournament in the second half of the Auburn game. And definitely and he was getting his shots. But he just he you saw them and that when he puts that into boy, it's he special, but no he trying to get on the ball ties. So good and our players. They understand. He's like all right. We gotta get him the ball in these situations and go to work, and you know, we did call. I'm not sure what the answer the question. We did. Call an action form to hit that three in the corner. And then one time time to great pass. But he yeah. I thought he really showed an aggressiveness that we needed. You. Need your top players to step up and make plays. And he did it on both ends you just speak to one that the poyser guy showed the overtime. And also the the previous games prepare them for that. They didn't seem either out of gas. They didn't to motion in handling the overtime. No. Well, I tell you we we had. Three Saturday, Monday games. We played Duke at home, and then we had to go to Carolina. And I I think I said this in the podium before. But I said this is how it's going to be in the tournament. And this is how we're going to prepare on Sunday. And and we did that every time we had those games, and we did it in the NCAA tournament that day in between and they knew what to expect. And I said you're built for this. You're prepared for this. Because this is what we did. And we started that process in January and that Carol do Carolina weekend. And I said just get after it, and we worked in between a lot of people's walked, actually, I don't know. What people do I just know from my experiences a coach in the Pac ten home important that day in between and how you prepare well prepare well and get after it. And so I think they they stepped in the moment they face pressure through the year through the turnament and all that stuff played into it. And that a lot goes to our strength coach, Mike Curtis. I mean, he has those guys as finely tuned machines. And and they just they work. We were smart at the end of the year with how much rest we gave them and prepare them. It's just a balance. Obviously, it it hit Tony Bennett with the national championship ninth. Active coach for the title for our current ACC coaches, Mike, shefty, ROY Williams, and Jim boeheim being the others Virginia six team to win. Multiple overtime games of the NC double A tournament in route to winning national title there. The first to do. So since era Zona in nineteen ninety seven. Cavs sixty six and six over the last two seasons. Best win percentage in division. One college basketball live crew restated Seth Greenberg, Jay Williams, and Jay Bilas, the every time in the last three games when things looked grim at the end of the game for junior late made plays. It looked grim at the end of regulation in this one when they were down to and then all of a sudden tied Rome drives, the baseline Texas Tech over helps the Audrey hunter. Who was spectacular? He wasn't good. He was spectacular twenty-seven points nine rebounds that three he hit out of the right corner is the biggest reason that Virginia's able to win the game. That was a spectacular shot. It took advantage of one of the very few defensive mistakes that Texas Tech made throughout the game. And they hung in there, and and grand fashioned to have a chance to win at the end. But Virginia made play after play that end of the overtime. They were great didn't miss a free throw were they were outstanding
UNC vs. Auburn score: Tigers sprint past top-seeded Tar Heels to clinch Elite Eight appearance
"In sports, the university of North Carolina at Chapel Hill apprentice basketball powerhouse takes on Auburn in the Sweet Sixteen matchup tonight. Jason debris of member station. W UNC reports the game will likely feature. Lots of scoring the game sets up like a track meet both the Tigers of Auburn and the tar heels of Chapel Hill love to run and Carolina was the third highest scoring team all year. So don't expect this to be a slow paced game UNC is the region's number one seed while Auburn is the number five, but the Tigers won the southeastern conference championship and are coming off a resounding win over Kansas. But don't tell any of that to UNC head coach, ROY Williams. I don't really say too much of anything about what other people are saying other people are doing what he's trying to corneas. I'll get out we disorder try to get in their own little nest area and stay there knew what we do UNC is a five and a half
NCAA Tourney Preview
"Tournament is allegedly underway. Let us bring a man who will be calling many of the games all the way through the national championship Turner sports analyst and somebody we watched play in high school. You're even old now south lakes high school. Let's start with this. I ask you as an analyst Dookie when you watch Zay on. What do you see? Wow. See explosiveness? I see, you know, see almost like a combination of a linebacker who jumps like Vince Carter. Is really nothing we've ever seen before in terms of his explosiveness athleticism. But also how hard he plays and steals activity has energy just off the charts. We're so used to comparing people you really can't compare them because there's really been nobody quite like him. That's how unique Zion. Williamson is all right grant beyond Duke. You've had a chance to study the brackets who do you like beyond the blue devils? I mean who jumps out to you as a team that could could at least get to the final four not further. While there's a lot of teams, and I know a mouse opposed to say this. But I think North Carolina is really talented trouble for that. I can get in trouble for that. So I if anyone says anything I'll just pretend I'm seeing Smith, but but not North Carolina. Roy Williams has done a fantastic job. I do think UVA they've had a lot of setbacks adversity in the tournament. But I do think this is this is Tony Bennett's most talented team. And I think they'll get through and get to the final four. I think Michigan state. I know they're in the same region as Duke, but I I was at the big ten conference tournament last week. I followed them Tom Izzo. This team is just balanced tough. They defend they can score. They really don't have a weakness at all as a sleeper team. I like Texas Tech the best defensive team in the country. They got a kid Jerry Kover who's probably wanted to top five players in college basketball that nobody knows about he's capable as they are. Taking a long run. And I love Florida state. You know, I love what they've done Leonard Hamilton. They won twelve of thirteen games in the regular season. People forget they got to the ACC conference finals loss to Duke. But they have a lot of death in very talented. So there's teams out there. Other than Duke believe it or not that are capable for long run. I'm gonna ask you to put all your old man hat for second. You and I did this a little bit the other night in Chicago during the big ten turnament. Will you go back to that last year? Even when you lost to Arkansas Scotty Thurman shot sorry to bring this up. You had seen your late and teams teams at three or four all Americans seem to time. And when you're watching now played there, but you're watching now this one and done era are the guys that he good. I mean, you look at them and think, yeah, these guys could have played when we did and won something. That's a good question. I think I think I think there's some really talented players and a lot of young talented players. But you know, the difference was you had older players more experienced players who had the opportunity maybe go pro who didn't think that UNLV team in nineteen ninety blue blue out Duke and Denver in the championship game. And you had Stacy Augmon.
"roy williams" Discussed on Get Up!
"His are set right now. And he's fired up. He and Stephen a ready to go right after this. Back on get up in the action. Yesterday was actually quite interesting in the fourth quarter between the Knicks and the Lakers at Madison Square Garden, which was ridiculously unimportant game. This was kind of interesting. So the Knicks were down three LeBron James is looking to put his team comfortably ahead, and he is blocked on the play by de'andre, Jordan. And we're going the other way Emmanuel moody is gonna find Damian Dotson he's getting laid. And it's a one point game. Take another look as you'll see the Andrey getting up there and getting just a finger on it. But it's enough. Jordan also at fifteen points and seventeen rebounds, the Knicks down one. Now the Lakers off one LeBron blocked by his own shot comes up short James really struggle missed eleven shots in the fourth quarter. And here's the big one down one seconds stuff. I mean stuck on the final play by his own LeBron finishing. What was a tough fourth quarter with a very tough moment. And the next come away with a win one twenty four one twenty three. So that's what happened in the fourth quarter in the first quarter. The cameras catch the. Ron sitting at the end of the bench during a timeout. And Knicks broadcaster hall of Famer, Walt CLYDE Frazier. You should be more part of your team. No matter what is going on, isn't it public? You've got us be a part of the team vivid locker room, you're not. But you have to. That type of togetherness in public. And right now, we see really cured. So that's wall Frazier. This is Stephen a Smith who like me grew up loving world. Frazier just to put that out there. He's Damon Jones who played within coach LeBron, and you took umbrage with those comments from CLYDE why with not just Clack. It's everybody. The Lakers are not doing well this year. Lebron is, you know, having played will you know, the whole season since he's been back. So I can understand when you talk about basketball things. My problem. Stephen A is when you start talking about the character issues. Not a good teammate. Okay. He's a coach killer in all these different things that everybody's been saying the last three or four months that I've been watching and I'm not happy. Well, first of all couple of things number one. You need to qualify. Oh, look up the definition of the word everybody that includes everybody that needs. Nobody feel differently. Nobody feels the same as you do it. I'm here to tell you you're wrong because I feel exactly the way. That you feel I think that is incredibly irresponsible. Go the conduct comments there. Whoa. Cli- frazier. Stated I like I've no cloth. Many many years love him. But those were some incredibly irresponsible statements on his part..
"roy williams" Discussed on Get Up!
"And you come through a conference where you have three one sees what does that give your team going forward into the tournament? Well, we. Realized that we played a very difficult schedule. I mean, the the number one seeds Virginia we played once gone back. We played once Duke we played three times. And in fact, the last three years we've played nine times in three years. So that's not exactly a picnic. But what we do understand is that we've played a difficult schedule we've played in difficult league. But all that doesn't mean anything unless you play on game day. And I think our kids we have three seniors that are leaders Luke maye Kenny Williams, Cam Johnson, those guys really lead us. And I think they'll push the guys to focus on that one game. I have coming up nex. But for us it has given us a little conference. We played Kentucky. Also, we played Michigan. So you know, we played a bunch of games against those teams that are getting one seats two seats three seeds. So we realize what we're getting into. But every day, and in the NC double A, you better play that day or you go home and tell them all the time. If you start looking down the road, that's where we're going down the road back home runs again on their way to. Columbus. They will take on a Yona Friday night. And then the winner there they will get the winner of Utah state in Washington coach, I so appreciate you doing this. Thank you. Congratulations on another one seed, good luck this week, and we'll talk again soon. Okay, Mike, you guys have a great day now YouTube. Thank you very much. That's ROY Williams the head coach of Carolina. And as he was rattling those off you realize they played everybody. Yeah. I mean Virginia's at once they played them obviously do because at once he they played them three times played Kentucky. They played Michigan zag. They they have played an uninhabitable. Schedule as a former player in as an analyst. Like, what does that too? When you played everybody. You love it. I mean, you wanna play against the best competition. That's what I loved one. We were at UCLA. We would go out. We'd play at Duke or Duke would come to us. We went to Carolina my senior year and found a way to win against the Bill Guttridge coach team, Ben and then go to the carrier dome and play there. Those are the games that matter those out of conference games. How you challenge yourself who you're playing against in conference? You kind of you kind of stuck with whether or not your conference is good that year or down Mike Hopkins team for Washington, they could potentially play this thing around good team back conference. It doesn't mean they can't advance. The I think this Carolina team right now is playing with such great competence. And they're finding themselves and Kobe white has been really good for a majority of this stretch run. I thought he was pretty poor in the final minute and a half of that game against to understanding time and possession settling for the shot that he settled for rather than driving trying to get to the hoop trying to create for his teammates. Forcing that back onto the defense. Step who's a little tiny details. The ROY Williams will continue to talk his team about as they get ready for the tournament. Maybe that sticks within the ACC does have three one seeds. Do you think there's a chance that we see all three of these teams in the final four shooters chance? I mean, they're all wants. So yet the bracket should work out of it holds true that we would see all three. I don't think we're going to. I think we're going to see North Carolina. Maybe get knocked off by Kentucky. I think Tennessee is going to knock off Virginia in that side. And I think we could see actually to SEC teams get into this nationals among those two just to you. That's your group over there. Right. If all this talk about the ACC, ridiculously good. The one thing we didn't talk about with the ACC. This year is the bottom half of this conference was really really bad the SEC..
"roy williams" Discussed on Get Up!
"Yes. Necessarily project to the next. Get different discussion point college basketball. We have as Jim behind said, I think the other day he said there, he's not the best basketball players ever seen. But he does things that I've never seen done on a basketball court. And that is the reality of what he has become in an our college game this year, you had an interesting comparison about Zion as he does project to the next level as relates to another guy in college and another sport projecting to the next level to me. He's the Cuyler Murray in reverse, right? Like, I mean collar Murray were sitting there going like to small accounts. We'd never seen a quarterback owners succeed. Get drafted in the first round all these. There may not be a player like Zeile before. We haven't seen a player like him. He six seven six eight. He's got that size that girth that athleticism. How does it project out to the next level? We won't know until we see it. But somebody's gonna go see it, and they're gonna love it or they're going to say well that didn't work out. So well, I don't really care. I'm appreciative appreciating him for what he is right now. What he is. Right now is the most physically dominating college basketball player. I can remember he is the best player in the country and. Can't miss telling we will continue to break down your brackets as we go, and Sean will give you his final four towards the end of the salads. But also yesterday as a result of state one of the last four teams into the tournament and their coach Bobby Hurley was fired up the more do point guard. He did not hold back any of the stops. Including look they broke out a bubble machine show me that bubble machine because this is fun looking at probably Goebbels nothing. Nothing says celebration like a bubble machine. Living The. on the head coach. It is a stressful. Cannot been go. We start with one that you'll like brewery McElroy and in cool two hundred twenty excuse me, two point two five million dollars. If they won the Players Championship worry. Now, the betting favourite greenie to win the my opinion, and this'll be a controversial statement among the very few people out there who care by Pinon. He's the best player in the world better than always played that way. Yes, best is better than anybody else's best. If he makes pots he will win the master. He had been close so far this year. And finally got that one. So let's go to the NBA the rockets improved to five and one this season. When James harden, Chris Paul and Clint cappella each scored twenty points as the timber wolves one seventeen to one zero two demon is Houston better off when harden isn't taking the scoring load to himself. He's good any way you shape. I mean, if he could score the basketball with cappella, and Chris quality, he's Acilitator and getting those guys easy, baskets and going is playing well too. And I like the. The dishes that they made. And that's why give him a slight chance. To beat the warriors emphasis on the slight this Lou Williams with his first career game winning buzzer beater as his deep three one it for the clippers over the nets. The nets had rallied from ten down the final minute to get it done. And Doc Rivers actually asked about the ethnic nature of the game. Listen to this. He had a great response. Maybe an alley freezer. Type. I don't know. Come on come on. Are you kidding me? My gosh that is the single best sporting event ever. And I'm not going to put the nets in the clippers in that class just yet. But if it was game seven in the finals, maybe but. Okay. I'm glad to clear that up for us. I was doubting. David how does this clippers team keep taking care of business, though, we'll do would hustle defense?.
"roy williams" Discussed on Get Up!
"We'll see it right here on ESPN Wednesday and Thursday the Japan opening series from the Tokyo dome between each euro. And the Mariners taking on the as get up early. Watch five thirty A M eastern right here on ESPN, and you can watch on the ESPN app as well. We will follow both games both days. Meanwhile on what's this guy's first quarter. I want you to see Mike Scott, just watch the hustle, but Mike, Scott, right? We got him in. Now, we go into the stands you're gonna try and get a loose ball here and just watch while these additives cheaper nine this year. I just got over there might as well, I think. What hey became that on my hustle that hard you need thirsty. Ladies multi. No way. No way that was like she super super-quick thing from the early part of the show this morning. We had a moment that could only be described as extremely awkward when you suggested that Mr. Greenberg. And I thought you were talking about me nobody calls you missed talking about Seth Greenberg at call him. Mr. green me and you on greenie in DJ train, correct? The thing. No, greedy. He's been wrong. Allot this morning because thinking he can stop me from scoring. Also. It's ridiculous. I welcome. You back together this morning live river decade. Pier. Seventeen. And here's the news. Cihan because before he goes number one number one the top overall seeds. Why does he have the hardest road to the final four? We will explain all the famous says LeBron needs to change his attitude. DJ upset he's fired up. He'll talk about it. And Stephen h mint will join that conversation. And then there's the Steelers aby gone Levy on gone. But is it the guy left behind with really the problem all along one? Former dealer says he has you'll hear that yourself as we get up with you starting right now with the biggest star in sports John farnum Zion came back Thursday night. He was back in better than ever. And he never stopped for a moment. We talked about it. All morning Friday, the performance he had against Syracuse. I'm Thursday night. Going thirteen of thirteen from the four we wondered aloud well that's a lot of minutes to play coming back from all that time. Would it be able to go back to back nights?.
What North Carolina's sweep of Duke really means
"Bid the ACC game yesterday the Duke North Carolina game. There was an interesting stat. Interesting to me, at least that I gave on Friday with Chris black, and it was that North Carolina had played Duke eight times under ROY Williams in the final game of the regular season with first place in the ACC at stake for North Carolina. Either outright first place or a share now Virginia one yesterday over Louisville. So North Carolina needed a win to get a share a first place in the ACC now in those eight. Times in North Carolina play Duke in the final game of the regular season. Trying to get first place in the ACC tarheels were eight no with games in five zero seven zero eight oh nine eleven twelve sixteen and seventeen. Now, they're nine and go after North Carolina get seventy nine to seventy win over Duke yesterday the blue devils again without Zion. Williamson and Duke struggling shooting from three, and that's why a lot of the experts are not picking Duke to win the NC double A tournament. They were eight of thirty two from three last night. Now, it'll be a little bit different. When I Williamson is back RJ Barrett with twenty six points last night. Cam reddish added twenty three points the tar heels share the ACC regular season title with Virginia's. I mentioned Virginia had a win earlier the evening against Louisville. Cody white, the freshman out of North Carolina. He was all kinds of fun to watch. He had twenty one points Zion. Williamson. Oh did practice while the other day John was out with Waddle and Silvy show on Friday, if you get a chance go back and listen to that the podcast at ESPN, Chicago dot com. You can listen to the podcast of the shows. Zion. Williams had a good practice. Some people thought he might have played last night. But after the game it appeared coach K said Williamson we'll be ready for Thursday's ACC tournament which gets underway. So it's going to be all kinds of fun to watch and see how Virginia North Carolina Duke doing the upcoming ACC
North Carolina coach Roy Williams collapses on court, needs assistance walking off
"News Radio North Carolina men's basketball coach ROY Williams went to a knee with a health scare during his team's game Saturday against Clemson lead. In the first half Williams was helped off the court and the school said that he suffered about vertigo Williams gave a wave to the crowd to signal. He was going to be okay as he left the floor suffered through a similar incident coaching against Boston College in two
"roy williams" Discussed on Get Up!
"Well, this response on we'll give it 'cause it's another one sitting on the fence kind of thing. I have no problem with guys going out of high school the NBA that is their rule for them to go to college for one year, and it's helped them they don't make as many mistakes. Lebron James did not make a mistake. Kobe. Bryant did not make a mistake there. Tone of kids that did make a mistake. Trying to go before they're physically mature before. They're ready. You know, sixteen guys playing against six three guys all the way through high school. How do you project? What he's going to do in the NBA. There is no perfect rule. I don't see a problem with anything. We'll adjust and adapt to what we're doing. But you know, it's it's it's the game. We've sir we meaning college basketball have served as a farm system for the NBA for many years. They make better decisions after a kid plays in college for one year, two years, three whatever it is. But there is no perfect grew. Lebron? James is done. Okay. Last time. I looked he was still still making a few baskets when and championships Kobe, and but I do think that some probably more kids make mistakes, then it goes and goes easily, but at the same time. Heck, there's no perfect rule. Tell me again, what do you want to do and let a kid do it? And finally coach I'll go back to your team. You know, what a championship team looks like a plan extraordinarily well right now and got the huge win the other night. Does this look like one of your teams, you think has a chance to be there at the very end where you were being very kind to me in the opening because talking about how well we shot the ball how? Well, we rebounded about you forgot to say that we can guard our lunch. We've got to get better. We gotta get better on the defensive end of the floor. And if we do that and stop turning the ball over we do some other things that are pretty good. Now, we didn't shoot it worth a darn against Duke the other night, but we've been a good shooting team. And and the other night, we shot we just didn't make them. But we have a chance to be one of those teams at the end of the year can be in the mix and every year there's probably ten to fifteen teams that could legitimately get on a six game run. And that's what I'd like to do. Every year is have my team one of those teams that has a chance, but we've gotta get lot better. I'm telling you, defensely, it's it's just a matador defense. We assure you to the basket as much as anybody ever. It's we gotta get better on that end up. Promise you coach. I can't tell him. I appreciate you doing this this morning. Thank you so much like the rest of the way, we'll talk to you right before the tournament thoughts. Thank you very much Michalek. You guys show. You guys do a nice job. Thanks, coach, ROY Williams, North Carolina. Great to have him here. Let's go back. Yeah. He's he's known him forever..
Zion Williamson injury: Duke star reportedly has $8 million loss of value insurance policy
"What's the insurance policy that Zairean Williamson has it Duke? So you can get a loss of value insurance policy which protects you if you fall in the draft, but presenting on, it's basically useless. I Duke Duke buys all the insurance policies to the players. I think that the exception of RJ Barrett who actually he came in with an insurance policy. He got his senior in high school that takes him all the way through his first year. But for the most part of the last five years colleges have been doing these insurance policies an eight million dollar policy for Zion cost you about fifty thousand dollars. It's all it's all above board. It's part of the rules. It's part of getting a player. But again he would start collecting at pick number seventeen. So given what we know of the injury. And even if he injured himself worse, you couldn't imagine that he would ever fall there. So it's there it is protection. But I don't think it will ever be used as an athlete collected on an insurance policy. Yes. FOX Freya Lamu from Oregon. Did there was there's oh who collected more Keithly elected from USC? There's been a couple, but and and that's important for the insurance industry to to know there's been guys who collected on disability, which is like you never play again. But the the more recent product is this offer value where they base the way it works is they basically project where you're going to go you sign the insurance policy, and then they tell you, okay. Like fifteen or twenty picks after that. That's when you that's when the clock starts going the money starts coming in. So it's been collected. The problem is though with Zion. Williamson Duke ensures them for eight million him for eight million dollars. But what's he's really worse? I mean, he's probably worth eighty. Million. So he's he might be worth eight million to to do, but they're really not giving him the the full value. And that's gonna be the next bait. Even though there's only so many Williams, and the other thing is when to and this technicality, but I think it's fun to talk about in DC way. So when Duke pays the insurance policy these insurance policies, if you pay the premium policy, it is tax free you collect your money tax free unless the school pays for it. And then you have to pay taxes on it. So for some of these players if they do have money it's actually worth it for them to pay for the policy instead of the
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"We get in there. And then we try and have power games of the nonleague. You know, that's kind of the philosophy. We stayed with even then we move floor in exchange white the big ten this year. We're going to twenty league games. So. It makes your lake situation to the point where you know, don't break the spirit of your team in the non league because we got twenty league games now. And there's plenty of power. But one thing about our league is there's always going to twenty league games, even more. So there's always power where he have checks to get raised the main win, and, you know, be overboard and be over to be a discussion on selection Sunday. And so it just trying to Fallon, you know, enough. Good nonleague stuff to get you ready, but not getting crazy about it. Because of a weekly playing and then pointy league games coming next year. Next year. The ACC is going to open the season before three night of play which I think is like November five six and seven we are going to pour. The ACC point. There's going to be seven game. We're gonna come out of gate with elite game right out of the gate, and then we ever consumed league date. So obviously training is good because we're launching the ACC at work at August in those factors in it. But we're playing a league game right out of the gate, which was an interesting discussion have years ago when our league meetings with the coach did you like that? Do you not like that? Go ahead. I I think I think deigning I think it's Dan in hurry to take the best. We should play right out of the gate. Rex point. It's you know, we don't have an opening day in college basketball for you know, when we play, and we got some term it here. But then there's football championship. And our feeling was we had to find bait for two Morley age anyway that was and I agree with their like right out of the gate, and and I know world road. So I'm about coping yesterday, by the way that Wednesday over you're going yet. Well, we go for let's go I don't think it's going to every year that I thought that fear. You know, let's let's do it. Let's give it a shot again in t- dukes not on the road. Well, they're playing in because the only one not because they'll be the champion. Remember that day? Valby out of that. But the other fourteen teams will play nice. Hey, coats, one other thing before anybody recruit your name, buy from Android. We got EBay coming from the Catholics and our. Hearing goading cousin. He's got to here and go to have a hearing, you know, they would have had more children. You know, gosh was he good for stirs. Nobody right now or no one from the region of the list right now you like, Danny. I never met a guy from the region. It's not a tough guy. I like is from the region you're talking to one that is not top. So I appreciate. I appreciate you saying that these squared for where you came from an tough, you were all right. That was back in the day is Notre Dame football back. I mean, you're that America needs to know from you because I know you are an expert on today football who sure the happy coach. And then you got a little grumpy football coach I've seen it on. Will. We are back baby. We are little real deal and our route to the playoffs. You know is kind of right there forest, and we got to go out to San Diego and deal with navy on Saturday night, which is always like going to and don't be tough. We are. We are playing. You know, I I look at us that we have I look at our body, especially the side, and you heard we were recruiting well now, you can see we really recruited. Well, the last couple of years we have on the fan bodies. And obviously the quarterback change with the kids book coming in. He's give it a shot in the arm..
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"Away from hoping we can get back into the flow that and nine four here last year. Offense was hard for us at times with with the bodies that were down week to week. But were you know? Hub and Harvey are back and they'll y. Sunday. And I'm excited about that. As Dan Goodwin doing. Doing very well. You the game. You know, he's, you know, he's got a stroke. But he's also can put it on the four amazing how he rebounds from his physician. I look at her stash after sixteen practices, and he hands on stuff. He's also got he's got this about if there's an air in a tough about of being part of things. He's ready to play. Depression. You've got a bunch of freshmen guy Neethling ski. I mean, like he's about six eleven hundred ninety pounds. It seems like but like every time he shoots it. You think it's going in like a guy like that? You've had six you've always had a guy like that. How ready see to to come and compete at this level and help you win the ACC here. And you know, you you remember it what we've got about fifteen on here. That's why the former was so important, and he has had a very good cover. Anyways. Very good in HAMAs. And you're right. He stretches we've had a number of guys like that. He stretches it for that physician. It keeps her spacing keeps off for open. So our Lawrence can get into the lane. The right now, he is a very good. And he was going to have a role in the chance of actually to start for us in my opinion. He might how do you at Notre Dame scheduling has become such a thing. Now is Notre Dame one of those schools where you can go pay somebody sixty seventy thousand dollars to come in. How do you go about it? We we have some by gay here offers eighty five. Some people are paying, you know, six fifty for per guaranteed games. When you're you're fine names. We'll buy, you know, six seven eight eight no, guaranteed games..
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"Shoes in ninth grade. If you really good, you know, what we're going to travel your parents tune event, you know, by the juniors and seniors, you know, basically, their parents that are pimping their own kids to get the best deal. It starts that early. And then on the other side, you got you got to shoe companies the shoe companies pay, you know, I don't know what nothing gets paid by Under Armour. But I know that that the word for Kansas was one hundred ninety one million dollars or something with the divas. They're almost partners the shoe companies. You know, the way things stand right now in this moment of time, they're almost partners. And and as partners, don't you think that? No-one put put a stop size up saying don't help me with that kid just like USA basketball sponsored by by Nike. So they go to these regime camps. They're partnered with Nike too. There there. I agree. It's a really tricky relationship. I eight we were back. We just started deal with Under Armour, and we were actually Cleveland for the regional final fifteen and when my sister. And I and I say well, Maryland horse. I mean, I was trained think you know, under ever. Gonna help it wasn't specifically saying a hundred twenty five thousand dollars, but but me moral support. Now, we're gonna recruit in the grassroots system. You know, we all. So it is a tricky tricky relationship and argue actually, you know, forget the equipment with under armor is is it's an unbelievable number, you know, behind UCLA's. It's by the biggest one out there right now. And and you know, so that does make it difficult. I mean, I know that when shoe company deals were Alexei a payroll companies with certain. They stay with a certain apparel company because the coaches said we can't change because I've got recruited. In this particular want. So we we can't take more money from whatever we gotta stay the course because we back favorite. There's another example of what you're saying so complicated relationship. Hey couples things about your team. I number one I traveled with him. I think censure note, man, what what great news. I think sometimes coaches, you know, we all hear about the bad things. But I'm I'm sitting in the middle. And none of those kids knew me, I'm just sitting there, and they were just freaking awesome, Mike. That's great. I appreciate you re Panetta, you You know. know, whatever reasons I love coach air, Danny at I everybody's got great kids. But I can't really in young man here with expert or paint here. All. Show and their day. I mean, hell they were pick knife. But they stole a show. You know, everybody their personalities. On their way, talk to and here, right? After taking over best all of us. For a little younger. They command. Expect they work. They say here there been no it's been his refreshing to be around them every day. Yeah. But reds Pflueger. He rolled in with the fanny pack. If so Hollywood predictable at and he also it right here. Good. It was the Charlotte. Excellent study. In fact, that that was absolutely hilarious. But let let's get you your team luck your bonds Costa lists your Matt Farah lists two guys that were kind of mainstays, and you know, guys that you kinda played through. But you said interesting, but you got some guys that are banged up. Prentice ob-, obviously banged up. You know with some injury issues as freshmen terrific point guard, and he got deejay Harvey where are those guys right now in terms of their recovery and their ability to to be ready to play once season starts. Well, I'm sorry because they're ever Derek about train. Yelled at cost and the senior high school, and and we started right? I mean could start out with the premise. That's happening spare pair. Playmaker. Ball. Hayward maker Harvey's been back a week and has shown L affects the micro fracture things to transit the right way. And he's gonna play a lot of it. So. Guys during the foreign for those guys are two of our four or five best players, but they are back. They're healthy, you know, over kind of set the tone for us, and it's a good place to start because those guys within a rail and had been in and leading. And and then you rotate. You know, a little bit of some unknown guys. They're talented guys that there, and we just have to and, but it's a in our young guys got really skill that, they they're ready to go. They don't we..
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Oh, no is the dust one. His only natural Prentice On the dust. on his run along. Then say this big huge. Welcoming in a guy from your state, your state a little ways from Indianapolis your state, the one the only nineteen years at Archer date. Does it his own way? He's new thing. He's the Frank Sinatra of the is it does it his way my man, Mike break. Good morning, coach brain how is life. Good more more. Your colder here even in this status get cold, but you know, that we had made chance to hang out with you yesterday down there, Charlotte. Back to reality back to practice. We're getting ready actually fan. We're gonna scrimmage Cincinnati bankers life on Sunday evening. So we're gonna find out a little bit of scrimmage. Wait a second. Yeah. That. That's right. Oh my God. Catch. Hey before we get into anything. I was just singing a little Garth Brooks on this. Did you go to the show and Notre Dame stadium? And it was on. I it were. It was snowing. Thirty minutes before the show the stadium was full what I'm thinking. They're not gonna show beta laser show, thirty minutes. There was noted everything and everybody states or the first concert at the stadium and put on a show. Unbelievable. Really cool. I saw a year ago here in bankers life, and I'm not the biggest FAM. I'm right. Holy hell that dude can put a show on. That's what I said the same thing. Listen. But I'm like, okay. I man he's a show is former and so were it was really cool. And I guess we're gonna start there with some more cops or you know, newly renovated stadium because it has so much else. We can do. It's awesome. Sent that's absolutely man. It's so impressive guys renaissance men. We went to that's the. You guys go to concerts? That's how low your level renaissance man and Seth Greenberg world because you go to Garth Brooks, concert them car. She's come on. He'll Billy slim raise the level..
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"Speiss is a program in Indiana. And species name came up in his trial where they were trying to get kids that bone and other people offering eight ten twelve thousand dollars in working with working with colleges. And I remember two kids camp Stevens and Jamal Davis back in the nineties. We couldn't even get involved with Jamal Davis shows up at my house. He's from my own town a few times, we couldn't get involved with because they were playing with speech. We so I wonder this whole thing, you know, were they paying back then obviously they were that we really not have a chance way so much time. And I gotta feel like man, if I'm if I'm Brad Burnell, I'm like, she's we wasted a lot of time here and had no chance, you know. What I mean by that is that that's kind of inside coaching kind of stuff. But yeah, I'm surprised they didn't keep you involved. Just because I think a lot of times occurring at certain prospects will keep certain schools in invest to legitimate their recruitment. And then they go where they go. I mean. That's why. If you were Brad Burnell, and again, people this is why you listen to podcasts because we're giving you the real stuff on coaching like this is real coaching stuff. If you Brad banal you suffer over losing that kid, right? Now, you reenters stuff. How would you would you feel I interest to hang angry and relieve interest? Why relieve explained relief part because you don't want. I wasn't. I wasn't party at all stuff. They knew that. I wasn't going to go in that direction interest. Therefore, it was not that was not even in the conversation. And that's why clemson's name has not come up, and I owed a in. The course of this thing. Let me ask you this. If you're ready to coach at Clemson, and there was a room or two years ago that you were thinking of letting brand I'll go and hire will Wade me ask you how does he feel right now? Use your word man, relieved. You know what I mean? Founded he's relieved Patino still dumbfounded. He's walking around in circles somewhere in Louisville does being dumbfounded bumping into buildings but excess like in my world. This is just my world. If our Nate d it would be you gotta be kidding me. Particularly if it's a guy that I hired, you know, over a guy like Brad has been successful enough there to keep his job obvious. But if I I'm gonna take the next step and higher will Wade. And now, we'll wait is going to be all over this stuff. Seth I go to was that song. By Garth Brooks. Sometimes I think God for unanswered prayers. You You know know, what what I I mean? mean to you? That's some think gun. Foreign answered praise. Sorry. That's there goes the podcast. So you know, on that on that note that we've digressed when we come back. We will have live in person on the air, not your head coach Mike break. But I, you know, what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of.
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"They should also not act like they're not a partner with whom whomever. They're they're dealing with an should also not put their head in the sand and say, you know, what? Re if we're a partner, and we're in this thing together that we would like your support in helping us build our brand, quote, unquote. And as we build our brand, you're building your brand, we're doing the side by side. Do you think Hugh companies to for for kids to vilify shoe companies when they know that they got in bed with issue companies? And there's a reason that that, you know, this is grassroots Bastable the reason that they want support an access more greater access to those players. Let's not four cells who in your opinion is ultimately at fault here. I just think I think what what's alternate for falters. Is people want to acquire talented people wanna win Coates? You know? So I think the coaches are culpable as as anyone. There's no doubt about it. But now we're looking at only one form of this next two trials we're going to be looking at money managers agents. But my man agents, they don't have they don't have a market of coaches, don't set the market. Or I think I think the money matters the age it's like right now recruiting all about having relationships with right? But if the if the room if some money manager comes up to you and says, hey, I got you know, tugs Bowen whenever the hell. The kid's name is. We need hundred K any and every coach says no paying the money every. Every cent. I let me different way of every coach is now that's unethical. We he's an ineligible player. We're not doing it. If every coach said that there's no marketing the whole thing goes away. Yeah. Or the or the money Magid says a I'm really close with this kid. You know? I'd love him to play for you. All you do is protect. So when it comes out, I can sign them. And you know, that's not right Cording to the rules. And if coaches had any ethics particularly out of our leadership, and they said absolutely not those that's not how this game is being played the market would go away. Now, it's never going to happen. It's pollyanna world. But if there is no market from these coaches, then there is no money manager. There is no of this. And this is where there are been other industries have cleaned themselves up. This is my biggest problem. I biggest problem is we can divert to Q companies money managers agents dads. Blunt the truth of the matter is there's a market that the coaches agreed to and set all in the most frustrating thing Seth. The dudes that are the presidents of the NABC Samson. Denny crum's Bill are always involved in this crap. So you got the quote president of the guardians of the game. Who what are they gardening garden a game the garden the gates of their their university? I guess they're guarding their alumni guarding what their contract by by being the fiery us and winning game. I mean coaches set the market. -pinion now. Eight look is told bone in them. No. Yep. He set that market. There is no market for you here at Michigan state, and I respect to live in hell out of that. If Patino said no or he taught his guys to say, no, you know, what there's no market some coaches have done in you know, you, and I both know Tom did that with Boeing, it's great. Everybody knows it now because it was in the trial, but you know to me south. Simple. Simple simple. A look. Here's a line you knowingly commit a major knowingly committed major violation you are banned from coaching division. One basketball. You can go January. You wanna mangle coach division to division throughout care? Go to pro. We're not saying you can't coach just can't coach in this. Because you had tuning screw it up. And I think that's going to happen. Because I here's what's going to happen..
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"And you know, in eighth grade, it's you know, can you play for team that you get free gear a sweatsuit bag in ninth grade. It might be the parents asking, well, I want to be at the travel to my son's events by the Jews and seniors like we heard in the hearing you've got parents pimping their own children. So I mean, this a lot to wrap your hands around. And like do we say that well by these guys being convicted is going to end what's going on? I don't know if it's going to end what's going on. I mean, there's always going to be people that are gonna make their own decisions and push the envelope and look outside the box. But it bothers me because I really believe and I'm not going to point fingers at any school, and we're gonna get into this next question. But if Vom school X, and I'm going to school. You don't think this conversation takes place a? A what? Things are going really. Well, we're excited to be part of the three three stripe life, but you've got a bunch of players in your grassroots program and tell you what anything you could do to help us. We would really I mean, you know, we need play we need that doc, truly bad. I mean, he he's a guy that could put over the top. He's a guy could get us to elite eight to the final four. All right anything. You could do, you know, you know, please help us get this kid because you know, you guys have relationships with his AAU coach people, and you can find ways to do things that, you know, basically idol, I can't do I wanna stay at. If you don't think that conversation takes place take place every day. Yeah. Every day. I I gotta tell I mean. I don't know. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know companies at schools are partners. I think they are. But my experience like one point I was working for a guy who was the most influential guy in college basketball, Bob Knight. And we didn't do that we kind of treat the shoe company guy, like get the hell outta here. And I know the game is changed. So I'm gonna say absolutely happens. And I think the trial proved that it happens. I let me ask you this. The Susan's right now. And. They're they're looking at the Sylvia Sousa while you're one they have a approach contract that he supposedly. But they couldn't verify his hands. His signature was absolutely joke university like be signed signed it. I mean, it's it's a joke. So the university, obviously is to me that just says lack of troll point simple. But more importantly, if Silvio Souza's guilty until proven innocent. Why hasn't the university taking any position on coaching staff? Drives me nuts pain, and I had this conversation yesterday. I mean, and and actually said if you read what the chancellor said yesterday came out in a vote of Conwell support oh about competence, but certainly support of the basketball program and Bill south. It was almost like they're saying well was like they're saying in this in this release that, hey, look, we did an internal investigation brought outside people and we found nothing. We're good. Let's go Bill self. I think it's absolutely absurd. That. That the player get suspended and Kurtis Townsend or Bill self. I'll name don't care. I mean, our coaching. It's it's absurd to me. It's disgusting to me. It's it's like I listened. And I know you did too. I read the excerpts of this trial. I saw the text exchange transcripts and out of that Silvio the Sousa maybe should be suspended from Kansas. But at the very least at the very least the coaches of Kansas should have the absolute same punishment at the very least easer the adults in the room. These are the people, you know, wasn't self the head of the NABC were guardians of the game. And all that happy horse bleep. It's disgusting to me. And and last thing, and I'll let you chime in or China anytime, you want self actually sits up there as a moral authority when they announced it and we're going to quote, hold this kid out..
"roy williams" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"Dockage the definitive college basketball podcast. Welcome courtside with Greenberg dockage talking all things college basketball and life because they ends lifetime experiences are just absolutely mind boggling, but we're going to stick to hoops today. We're going to stick to the verdict in the F B I trial against those three defendants dockings ghetto and Merle code, and then as this drama, and at Solway describe it man is drama unfolded with Merle code Christian Dawkins Jimmy guide and the jury was out one day two days three days the whole atmosphere. Routed almost was like, a a book would read in a summer and a lot of ways, you know, the types of accusations that were being made. But then the verdict came down. What was your first impression when the verdict came down not surprise? I mean, it's ninety four percent conviction rate. Seth. Sad. You know, you don't I don't think anybody that has ever ever done with these guys are doing anticipated going to jail over maybe the NC double A, maybe their own. I don't even think they thought it was illegal or against NCWA rules based on these kids hadn't been there. I I was I was sad for them. Glad for the sport. I guess. I think that college basketball. You get kind of tired of a couple of things you get kinda tired of people saying everybody cheats, and you also get kind of tired of people say I do. Anyway, people say, well, you know, we everybody knew there were rumblings. Everybody knew I didn't know it was going on. I know I if you told me that the assistant coach at Louisville would have met in front of a gas station and giving some kid hundred thousand from schuch, I didn't know I do size kinda sad for those guys. I don't like see people go to jail. But in a way, I'm really happy for the sport. And I'm also anxious to see what happens moving forward who flips who starts talking for the guys get involved. I think it's it's ongoing is also I will say this. And this is something Seth that doesn't matter. But her lot of people in the sports media say, well, this shouldn't have gone to trial. Well, I talked to, you know trial, lawyers, and they're like, whoa, that's fine. People can say that. But the truth of the matter. Is the only matters whether to Jerry things it should have gone to trial jury thought it should have gone to trial. So that over our it's not over. But that's it you don't they convict? And now we see what the fallout is. And follow could be that in the next two trials those. Defendant. We start to line up now. Wait a second. These guys are going to be guilty. I don't want to seven to ten years are right. I'm gonna start to sink and the judge. I think made a strong statement in terms of how he handled the trial because he basically did not make it about the AA made it about the incident. But here here's a couple takes that that I have one please take your head out of the sand of you. Don't think the Hugh companies and universities are partners their partners. You don't pay Kansas one hundred ninety one million dollars. If you're not their partner, and when you're a partner, and let's just use Kansas. An example, you're not paying them one hundred ninety one million dollars for the football team. All right. You're paying one hundred ninety one million dollars for their exposure of the basketball team. Now, look, I'm not condoning anything that transpired. I mean to me. It's absolutely sickening to see what transpired, but these shoe companies, and these universities are partners. They're in it together. Why do you shoe companies have grassroots programs? They have grassroots programs for two reasons. One to identify the next Michael Jordan number two to be a support system and a lot of ways to their universities that they sponsor why does Kansas and this is just my philosophy. I'm not saying strew once Kansas time with Adidas not Nike probably one the amount of money. Number two is there's not eight thousand schools there's very few Adidas schools, so therefore with all the grass roots programs. They almost potentially have the pickett'll litter. Number three is like this. Recruiting process with the companies and players start too early age..