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David Abeles: CEO of TaylorMade Golf

The Playbook

29:46 min | 1 year ago

David Abeles: CEO of TaylorMade Golf

"This is the first edition Thursday playbook, and we are so excited because we are following the requests of the wonderful listeners and followers that we have to put out more content better content trying to inspire and aspire to be better people live to our higher selves in. I certainly appreciate everyone's requests. There's no better way to start Thursday edition of the playbook than at the masters and I sat down with David Abe. Lease the CEO of taylormade the number one Gulf company in the world. And we talked about the eventual winner Tiger Woods and talking about comebacks, persistence, all the different things, the opinions of others, and most importantly values and how important it is to stick to your values. Not only as an individual. But as a team and a company and finally he is living proof. Why you don't limit your point of entry? If you wanna be a seal of top business in America. This is entrepreneurs the playbook each week. I bring you some of the greatest athletes celebrities and onto Pamirs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the field. And in the boardroom. I'm your host and CEO of sports one marketing, David Meltzer. We have the CEO and president of made David Abe Elise. How are you? I'm doing great. We're out of Gusta national hard. Not to be great. Right. Well, let's let's start. Not only Augusta. This the first time I've ever been in a double decker. What's with this thing? Well, we're actually upstairs, obviously, there's two stories we launched our new taylormade tour truck two weeks ago at the world golf championships in Austin, Texas, which was incredible. It's the first of its kind. We built a double decker tour truck. So we're actually on the top floor here in the conference room where we spent some time with great partners like yourself day in downstairs, right below us is where our technicians work on the world's best players golf clubs. So Tigers clubs are being built downstairs and Jason days clubs, Dustin Johnson and ROY McElroy team tailor-made they're in and out of our truck at every tour. Stop getting tuned up to make sure they have the new product, latest and greatest technology specifications. Reviled in precisely to what their needs are. And so this truck is actually really not only a statement of who we are as an organization how we support the best players in the world. But it's a it's a functional facility. It's a building that goes from tour events tour events take care of our team a lot of people that are entrepreneurs one to build companies. Like dealer me. And it's really a technology company. Really is what's the biggest challenge of having the best technology? I know for example, where I come from the original film business you'll iphones. Biggest competitor is iphone right? What's what's your biggest challenge? Yeah. You know every year, obviously, we're bringing new and advanced technologies to market and the mission of our company is actually very simple. I don't know if most golfers know this, but our mission is to be the best performance golf Brandon the world. So when you think about breaking down those words, the be the best that something you'd better really invest in. Because this is a highly competitive space as are other businesses. But if you really want to be the best performance doesn't lie right. So you can't fake performance. Which means you have to bring technology that advances performance year after year after year. We're only a golf company, and we have to do this worldwide. So when you think is not your poor about how you put together a mission. And how you think about how words define your actions and action define. In your outcome on it's critically important that you're very thoughtful. But at our core, we're an innovation driven technology company in the golf space and the biggest challenge of face is that when you choose the path of innovation. It's the riskiest path. You can choose because you've got to be willing to put something out there that may succeed or may not succeed. And so a lot of companies talk about were innovative, but innovation isn't a buzzword. It's actually a cultural belief in. It's built into the organization at every level of the organization starting with our people through our tour technicians are researching developers through our engineers into our human resources function in even out here on tour. So we have chosen a very difficult path. But I'm very proud of the work that we do we have the best team in the world. We have the best corps of engineers that are building these new advanced technology. We have an advanced research team that is bringing new technologies every day in the best example of that right now is injected twist face in the five and m six drivers which has never been done before golf in for the first time we have designed a dry. Ever pass the legal limits and actually tuned every single driver David we touch every single driver had in the world to them right back to the legal limit. So there is no variance in production from one that might not be as fast to the fastest one. They're all the same. So whatever tiger's playing today Roy's playing today is exactly what golfers can get. That's never been done before golf, which I love about skiing, and golf as I get older is that I always called better golf through technology. So they went from ten years old and moved to San Diego playing golf as much as I could to fifty one years old. I think my head's bead is faster than the away played football in college. And the accuracy, you know, when you take the ball, the club, everything that Hillary does innovation wise. It's incredible. No when I think of performance for sure, but you also passionate integrity. Yeah. And integrity is important as you talk about to the legal limit. And I think there's a lot of knock. Coughs and other things in the sport that make it even more difficult to be the leader in innovation because you're challenged by copycats misinformation and other things out there in the level of integrity that you're at home portent is that through tailor made in all those different areas that you explained. Yeah, I David actually appreciate your recognizing that, you know, we we built a beautiful and powerful global brand in our sport. But really at the core of what we do outside of our mission. Are these core values that our company subscribes to us to really big words? Their passion is clearly runs through the veins of every tailor-made employees in every market around the world, we do business obviously here in the United States. We have offices in the UK in London. We have offices in Toronto Shanghai. And Tokyo Seoul all over the world. We do business in the one common thread that connects this organization beyond the game golf is the passion for the game of golf in the integrity in which we do our work. And so how we show. Oh up is is equally as important as what we show up with. And so whether you're downstairs looking downstairs right now at Wade Lyles who is the best technician in the world building golf clubs where keeps Barbara who. Just walked off the truck is literally running across Washington road right now to ensure that tiger in Dustin Johnson are dialed in for the masters the way in which we conduct our business of is of the highest integrity. We do not compromise our principles or values we ensure that every interaction we have both internally as a group of people whether you're with your colleagues or with your peer groups or externally whether it's with customers with tour players with members of the media that we are as professional as we possibly can be. And we believe that we believe that we stand for that symbol of excellence in golf, we take it very seriously. And I wouldn't have it any other way in my role in this organization. We lead that way. So I appreciate recognizing that because when someone from the outside says the way have you your company is a passionate group of people with high integrity that focus. On new innovation. If that was described by fifty million golfers around the world who which we serve fifty million golfers that we incent and promote and try to inspire to buy our products. We're doing the right thing. So I appreciate that means a lot to make absolutely think also from the top down CEO and president to the six of the twelve best players in the world, represent you. And what makes difficult Lynn in a deal with entrepreneurs all the time. They start with passion. Then they moved to a purpose. Right. And then they think about profitability with the most interesting thing about what you're able to do have all that integrity performance. Passion purpose, but you're actually a profitable company, and there's always this conflict with people whether they're trying to get a job in sports following their passing their love or in an innovative business where there's a difference between an innovator in a business person. I was used the McDonald's brothers is classic example there innovators. They created the best. Franchise system with the speedy service system. But Ray Kroc, we both know from San Diego is a true entrepreneur businessman. How does profit fit into what you do with those great values? Yeah. It's the intersection of creativity and profitability or how you run a business and one of the things I've always been inspired by through real great entrepreneurs is they think so broadly. They've got a great perspective on the future or an idea that could change the future an idea that could change an industry in those skills. Those towns are so incredibly important, but the best entrepreneurs I've met are the ones that convert that perspective into something that ultimately is a winning formula from a financial standpoint in and around building a business right because you can only exercise that vision in perspective, if you're funded enough overtime to be able to do it. And so, yeah, I mean, we're we're very fortunate because we've got great creativity. Great innovative chops. That people all the things we've talked about. But we run a very disciplined businesses. Well, right how we design and develop products. Not just the work better or help. Golfers at every skill level play the game better. But how do we get those products commercialized to market make enough margin? In those products to be able to reinvest in the things that matter. So how do we reinvest in next wave of innovation because entrepreneurship isn't a one time thing, it's an all the time thing and innovation is an all the time thing. So you can't just launch something really great not making any money on it and think you can do it again. So you have to figure out figure out really a very comprehensive business plan to support the prophets scenario in around what you're doing to invest in the future of your company, and we do that very well. So we take a large percentage of our profitability on an annual basis, and we reinvested into the company to ensure that not just in two thousand nineteen but in twenty twenty one twenty two I consider cross from you, Dave and have the same conversation about injected twists face to spider x two five and five x t five. Six and then what's going to come next you? Right. And we have to not only bring that value to consumers, but we also have to create the value in the products and monetize that. So we continue to succeed. What's interesting about this interview is it comes a week after we celebrated our fortieth anniversary as a company forty years ago. We were founded by one of the greatest entrepreneurs in the game of golf. His name was Gary ads in nineteen seventy nine right? The bargains his house he borrowed money against this house. I have a great idea, and that's the convert woods, which you, and I may remember sure many of your your audience does to steal essentially what we call metal woods term. Metal would came from. Math did mental why because it was a better way to manufacture product to enhance performance. It took him literally fifteen years to convert the world fifteen years to convert the world from wood to meddle in here. We are literally generations later with ultra thin cast titanium multi-material technologies that has taken his innovative really fabric the way he thought for decades later into something very special and change the game ago. It changed the game golf in candidly. We exist to help golfers play better. The only way you're going to do that is by bringing golfer something better in performance to move forward. So even though we're a big company, and I'm proud of that. And also very humbled by we are very entrepreneurial company, so the term entrepreneur and the term innovator, they're synonymous in many ways you have to move forward. You have to be willing to take risks and do things differently. If you want to advance otherwise you just like everybody else in that's not tailor-made. No. And there is that mitigated conflict between how much risk do I take because my biggest piece of advice entrepreneurs? Now get asked it all the time. You stay in business. Right. You can stay in business. You can evolve if you're innovative now one of the other things that may go unnoticed, and maybe I'm too big of a fan to be doing unbiased interview. But telling me, it is always involved in philanthropic efforts. I know you sit on the board of I thi this so many things that people don't see behind the scenes because the sport needs companies like tailor-made to not only survive, but to innovate just like, you innovated the game with metal woods and all this new twist technology. You'll Tigers new clubs coming out. Otherwise, there's innovative marketing things that you do that raise more money. So that more kids, and it's not so Tele making self stuff thirty years from now, it's literally so the golf game thrives not just survives but thrives where does the importance of the philanthropic stuff that tells me all into your economics? Yeah. We feel a profound responsibility to advance the game of golf. And ensure that generations to come are playing the game of golf, and our hope is that there will be more playing the game of golf in the future than there even are today. So one of the ways we do that is by bringing products that help golfers play better. So that's what we do is a business, which is, you know, how do we provide you a product that provides greater enjoyment to you, and that you should better scores and that get an opportunity to perform better in as a net result. You want to come back and play more, and maybe bring your friends or your children or whomever? It is to help advance the game. But two point again, it's going to come back to the concept of innovation because while we innovate across every functional area of our business. Not just in product. But in our marketing functions, we can talk about that language is great. I mean, what we're doing Rickie Fowler and teepee five picks that you're going to see this afternoon Wednesday afternoon at Augusta National is something just awesome. This van we innovate in human resources. Which is how we train and develop our people which leads to stronger retention and veteran virement we innovate operationally in terms of what our supply base looks like we we invade across everything we do. But the one thing that we're also very proud of is how we invest in the game and where we innovate from philanthropic standpoint. And the first he's an example, an incredible institution that has abled underprivileged kids to get educated. And really understand that learning the game of golf is a platform for their future. It's not just about playing golf that's about their future. The next round of entrepreneurs individuals young kids that have the opportunity to build a platform through an educational process at second non and that leads them the better places. We also support our troops in a big way. We're very involved with operation game on in San Diego, which is the rehabilitation process for for injured. Warriors coming back from the battlefield we invest in that to make sure that's the case. We also invest in junior programs. So ROY McElroy who everybody knows. I'm sure everybody read your. Yep. Rory mcilroy. We launched a junior said ROY McElroy kids. Here's the thing about profit. We don't profit at all those we take every margin dollar. We make in those and put that back against junior golf in the form of the PGA junior league with the PJ of America, tell the young kids get into the game of golf in a team atmosphere to get them ultimately traditional Gulf over time. So we take it very seriously. And those are just a few examples of the things that we do we do things on a global basis as well. But we try to be very thoughtful and make sure that any investing dollar has a meaningful impact. Right. It's one thing to say, hey, I donated some money to something. And so that's my cause if we're going to invest philanthropic, we're actually going to be involved because we want to take the leverage of our brand. Our people are thinking are innovative concepts in make something better. So if you're going to do something, I've always believed this implicitly, if you're gonna do something not only do it. Right. But invest in it and make it best in class. And I believe in that and sodas our company, and as a result, those things matter to us, and they really do. It's interesting switching gears to you're an entrepreneur and a lot of people they dreamed about working in sports. And unfortunately, you know, I'm from San Diego. And I always said you ain't dreamed about being the general manager of the Padres or whatever. But then I realized as I came in to be CEO of Leigh Steinberg that there's so many jobs in sports, but you have to be an entrepreneur you have to sacrifice you have to leave your point of entry open move all over the world changed companies back and forth in order to learn enough to be in one of the best positions in the world, which is CEO of a large company, but you need to be onto preneurs to become the CEO of taylormade. Tell us about that journey of some the philosophies that you have advice for entrepreneurs. Whether it's within the context of being you. I joke around one of the best jobs that I found in sports was there was a sale job. For Scott's lawn care, and it was a sick right on college six figure job, and you manage millions of dollars of budget to buy advertising on ESPN go to all these killer events with your dealers. And I'm thinking all these kids are working for nothing for the cubs. And they've missed this unbelievable opportunity to travel the world and party in sports. Yeah. Tell me that jury. Yeah. You know, I've been very fortunate for the better part of twenty going on twenty five years to have my career in sport, and particularly golf, and you know, my father who's a PHD in physics of a real rocket. Scientist I grew up in a very different family. My father's a lot of pressure. My father's a PHD in physics working for NASA solving the reentry theory, and my mother's a psychologist, and what was spun from that is a golf club sales figure, and you. Broke the Jewish tradition of doctor lawyer failure. Golfie uncle figure figure all of that. But one thing my father instilled in me beyond a work ethic that you know, I take very seriously. I mean like any entrepreneur if you want to be successful, whether you're an entrepreneur or you're an employee of an entrepreneurial company if you're not working your tail off. You're not going to get that far. I can promise you that smarts. Is one thing capability is. Another thing work ethic is something very different in the best leaders. The best entrepreneurs that I've seen around the world. And I've seen quite a few of them. Are that are the hardest workers on top of some of the best thinkers, but yeah, my career is taken a series of pass pathways. But what my father used to say to me when I was a kid was, hey, if you can make your passion, your vocation you wake up every day, and you'll be inspired to do the work that you want to do. So when I think about entrepreneurs on the other side of this interview, make your passion your vocation. It's not just about an idea. But are you all in are? You all emotionally. Are you all in physically? Is it something you wanna do you believe you can make? Difference in if you can do that you have a better chances exceeding because you're gonna love what you do. Everyday entrust me. You're going to have some ups and downs. Right. I haven't succeeded for twenty five years. I've had a lot of good starts, and I've had a lot of failures as well. But really, I know it sounds cool shape. They're not really failures. If you actually learn something from there and you up moving forward. Yes. So maybe it's not a failure. Maybe it's a miracle. But my dream in not everybody has the luxury of having a clear vision for what they wanted to be my dream always had been to run taylormade golf. I grew up playing competitive golf. I grew up in suburban home in Connecticut where tailor-made when I was in high school in the late eighties early. Nineties was running an ad campaign called the art of golf, I was paying bills through school on my way to university. I pulled down one of these ad campaign banners from a golf shop. I was working in. And I put it up in my bedroom, which it still hangs there today. I've been out of the house for twenty five years lived all over the world, you know, cut my teeth not only in New York City working for taylormade. Up but worked in Hong Kong left the company twice. I joked with our head of human resources every time we on board a new employee to the company right as an entrepreneurial type company with the great innovative fiber of the on boarding process. We take very seriously. And so everybody gets an orientation. Well, I've been gone twice in back three times three first days. I've only had one argumentation. So she's listening right now, you only to orientation, but in the end I had to make a lot of personal sacrifices in professional sacrifices to be able to work my way into this job. And I don't take this job for granted. There isn't a second of my day that I'm not reinvesting my time and energy in the learning better practices for the company. Most importantly, our people and our customers in golfers, and that's what I wake up everyday willing to do in. And if you're not willing to do that the likelihood of success is not as strong if otherwise. So it's a commitment. And every entrepreneur knows that you've got to commit before we committed believe in it and see it all the way through it, which is the energy of tiller made someone taking. I love to hear you know. I I have a guy that started one of the fastest growing franchises. And he lived in his car. He worked didn't know golf, but he worked for country club to save his tips as without going up and getting to know being more interested in interesting like you said the work ethic. So you could save fifteen thousand dollars for his dream, those are the stories, but what a lot of people don't know to entrepreneurial wise in. We've been blessed to have these executive jobs of really large. Well, no notable companies is the sacrifice that occurs. When you make it. We always talk about the beginning. Will I in my life, multimillionaire, lost it, all multimillionaire? And the scariest times for me was not wanna had nothing for me. 'cause I'm hard work at you. Same kind of background is you moms in education. There's just no quit in me. But we're I find most people don't understand the sacrifice is where you're at. Now. When you're the CEO of such a large organization if three. Young boys who are the most important thing to your family because I know that's the most important sized my health, and that's the sacrifice that people don't understand. You. Gotta take care of yourself. You gotta take care of your family and be there for them. But you have another family that you're responsible for all those jobs. What would that sacrifice like when you make it? We don't really talk about that. Yeah. First of all, it's an honor to have that responsibility. Which is something I take very seriously. But I live with a paranoia about complacency. I do because I just know in the world today that if you're not moving forward, if you're not making stronger and better decisions around your your products, you company, your people you have a susceptibility to be vulnerable. And believe me we have a lot of honor abilities every company does. But I literally live with a paranoia about insuring that there is no complacency not only in my role because I live that way. But through the organism. And that's what's really in in some regards driven us forward. We have a group of people that are inspired to make a difference every day and improve upon what they did the day before. And then we have to create an environment that enables all of our people at every level of the organization to have an opportunity to make a contribution to the company in be willing to to bring good ideas forward. So that we can continue to advance the company, but yes, I have two primary responsibilities in my wife, my family, and my professional family, and in many regards if you were to ask my wife melody at times, those things kind of cross over with each other because my family my personal family, my wife and three kids. There is much part of tailor-made as the Taylor mater employees are as much part of my family. And so it's one of the real unique things that at Taylor made. Which is we are very family oriented organization with twelve hundred people around the world. I make it a point that everyone of those twelve hundred at some point time having opportunity to interact with me members of our executive team. I'm on the road making the right sacrifices sacrifices that I love making to engage our people because I love our people. I genuinely love our people the greatest differentiator at our company really isn't the new driver or the new wedge Potter or golf ball. It's the people that of that wedge, puttering golf ball new driver. It's the people that market that it's the people that build it. It's the people that service it on. It's the people that account for it. And we have the greatest culture in the world and something I take very seriously. There's a family orientation to it. So twelve hundred people in everybody should know everybody. In fact, one of our core principles and organization is the theory activity to be the most connected golf company in the world. So that's interesting right because can activity is both internal with each other. As employee's knowing each other, personally, how we work we do a lot of work through human resources on what we call work modeling, which is personality. Finding so that you, and I really understand how we can be most productive together and understand our personal special needs. So that we can advance what we're trying to get done underneath a very clear mission, which we talked about in a clear set of guiding principles strategically for the company, so it syncs up and we worked together. But believe me, I be lying. If I didn't say, I miss my kids. Right. I'm on the road one hundred twenty two. And forty nights a year. And so fortunately, I use technology to stay connected to my boys. I turned seven day trips into five day trips. I'm sure that you can recall that five day trips into three day trips. But I would never compromise. My one on one time with my family, nor would I want them in front of our people. And that's where great leaders in my opinion, either really succeed or don't succeed. You have to be present in every relationship that matters, and you'd identify which relationships matter and for me, it's my wife. It's my kids. It's my family, and it's my company, and so that's what I focus on. And it serves us fairly. Well, one thing I noticed when I met you today is that you didn't have PR people a lot of times, they go into companies, no names. But it's all about oh my God soon. So's amazing everyone's pumping you up. It was the exact opposite. I got in here you had listed on four different people as the world's best that what they did. You were PR. You were the PR agent for your employees. I would say employees do two things number one. They watch you. Just like kids. You can't tell your kids. What to do yours are going to be teenagers soon? But they watch you, which is the most part, your employees, watch you and then to just great appreciation gratitude, and you display that more than any other CEO that I met for the first time it just came across to me. You know, you're Mench to your -ployees you walk in. And I was like I'm never seen the CEO pump up all four of his employees that are sitting in a truck in the parking lot at the masters but going forward, you know, what for you is the most important thing for your legacy. The last question you'll you've done so much with this innovation internally externally what legacy? Do you want to leave? Easy answer is how do we build a lasting company that enables employs to develop professionally to step into roles like mine overtime roles that you see downstairs in the truck, and and continue to have conversations with with great people like yourselves and talk and promote their company with great, pride and ambition about its future. It's ironic, you know, not at a place in my career at this point in time where I think a whole lot about my legacy. But I do spend a lot of time thinking about how we can ensure that the next forty years for tailor-made are equally as impressive is the previous forty and that we have the right cultural fabric to enable our organization to do the work of today. But also planned for tomorrow and as a net result. I think we're going to be just fine. So I really don't spend a whole lot of time on personal legacy. That's I'm not going to suggest. It's not important to me. But it's not important to me. Now, it's important to me now to ensure that I put the right fundamentals in place in our organization, so that whether I continue to lead over the next decade, which I hope I can stay at tailor-made as long as I can as long as I can create value in add value to the company the day that I can't is the day. Somebody else needs to come in and be able to do that. Trust me. I hope that's not for a long time ago. A lot of gas in the tank, and you know, I'm still in my mid forties. So got a long way to go. On. But really some of the work that I do every day that I am very thoughtful about is how do I leave the future in a better place where we are today? And and that's just part of who I am as part of who we are as a company, and it's part of what your entrepreneurial would be thinking about as they get started as they find traction stability generate profit, and then ultimately plan for something even bigger in the future as it relates to their company, and the one thing I would would would share with you and share with everybody that is listening to this or reading this is that you really need to take investment in people as your number one priority. You're only going to be as good as the team around you in the environment you create for them. And while many people may say that many people may try to model that you have to live that. And if you don't live that the likelihood of succeeding at this level is going to be a bit more challenging otherwise left. I talked you that said that was Tom Brady. Who's a pretty darn good quarter? Yeah. Okay. I think he's playing tailor-made and should be so Tom if you're listening new driver here, so. By the Trump. Yeah. See him laters, David Iblis unbelievable quarterback of tailor-made. It's just been cleared. Thank you for already starting leaving and showing people what is truly like to be a successful entrepreneur of service, not only to your community the golf community. But also, your your employees. So thank you. Appreciate your time to thanks. Okay. Dave ulcer with entrepreneurs the playbook. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as on a personal note. I just wanted to thank everyone for making such a success. Don't forget to continue it by sharing subscribing and listening to your favorite episodes is Dave Meltzer with the play. With the players.

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"The now on the it's Mattie in the caddy here's Matt Berry and Michael College campus of you weeklies teebox Oxides Academy. I know I am Mattie. This is the Mattie together the podcast we apologize for being a little late this week and a major championship leaks. We're GONNA get right to it. You Apologize. You will apologize. What not your fault you WanNa talk about my travel travails? You won't talk about your boy not having any closed for a minute and then just for second again the airline trying to blame me for just five so when when did you arrive there now when was is scheduled to arrive and when I arrived was that's also two different things I was scheduled to be here Saturday. I oh I didn't get here until Sunday. I had the same clothes on since Friday and then they went you get your stuff well. My my stuff did not show up until late Sunday night. Okay so all I know is that we'd been hit the up via text for three days. 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The Dublin and I walk up to the gate agent and I'm like woo flights. I just got an alert flies not leaving until eight seven forty. I made it right and she goes. We already pulled jetway back. I'm like so put back. I'm here twenty minutes. She goes Nah is be too much paperwork. That's literally the words that came out as woman's mouth. It'll be too much paperwork. I don't know I don't know how to tell you this but it is Wednesday hours before the open starts and we have to take care of the Patriots and give them some golf at at this point. I don't I don't care about you travel. I know you just you just don't you don't care you just don't care. I don't find what did I don't. I I feel like we've let the people down and I was mad because I've I've gotten to play as some golf. I've just came from Dallari to do this right here. I've been talking to some golfers finding out about the golf. Course I got some insights and whatnot but I'm trying to be tension to let everybody know because see the golf of course that these guys have been practicing on especially the guys who came over early Nabo say Adam Scott is the only dude who got the course in somewhat of the conditions that they're going to have Thursday and Friday because and he's he got here seven days early and was practicing playing a bunch with Darren Clarke so inside information all our peeps out there. If you WANNA put a little some something down on somebody down Clark said it's been a long time since he's Seen Adam Scott hitting the ball this as well coup yet. He's one of those guys to get a look at Yeah He. He seems to find the best of himself at major championships. Adam Scott's guy. You have to take extremely seriously this week theory eerie very much so but that being said the golf course Saturday Sunday did temperatures here were in like the low seventies and high sixties. The son was out there was very very little wind to the point where people were swimming in the ocean out here now they were talking about. Oh it's amazing. It's beautiful and there were kids. I got picture you saw instagram. I get into little kids just came from the beach and I was like you guys weren't really swim out. There and I asked the locals hey what's what's the water temperature out there sixteen Celsius right. Oh Yeah Yeah so now I do two translation them to do to calculations on it sixty to sixty people out there without wetsuits. Let me tell you the that's right. Now is ninety one. That's the water temperature. It's like a BAFTA. It's an these people were there. Jumping is now the one assistant pro that I spoke to when asked him. Hey do you get in the water. When it's beautiful like it was the past couple of days he was like only if the doctor tells me I got inflammation okay all right yeah? The weather I made the weather. The first part of the week has been great and now you're starting to see it turned open championship type conditions which is why typically for this tournament you have to look at the Europeans who were used to this type of climate this type of weather uh on this type of course except for one guy yeah I mean brooks kept because get yeah. He's going to change the odds at just about every major tournament but Jeff. I don't I shaking my head and my hands are in my face right now. Because how do you make Roy mcelroy favorite at nine to one I mean I understand. I guess it's easy because we're the money's why is that easy at easy because he's played this course. He knows the course sixty one and holds the course so that was fourteen months ago. That was a complete right is a one layer yeah. They said it wasn't rather no. No the personnel has bagged yeah. Okay now. Look I would agree with you if Roy was coming in like the old Roy Macaroni who was world number-one unbeaten everybody every single week and hitting it further and and everybody else then I would be like yet. They're these dues. GotTa be favourite. What has rory done to show you? He's better than Brooks kept go right now now. Look lay hold on by the way Brooks kept his caddy. Patty grew up here and is probably more experienced on this golf course then any Blair in the field so you've got a jockey on a thoroughbred on his home turf. Course I get it. I look I get it but I understand why worries the favorite I don't I mean this is his home open. You know this is a grand McDowell Darren Clarke well if you compare the bona fide to Darren Clarke and grant McDowell relative to Roy mcelroy that you know I I look man you know golf enough to know the hardest thing the hardest tournament to win the hardest tournament even a regular event. Is Your home event and I agree with that. Also I completely agree so if we know it I think he's GonNa Win Win Vegas Dome. I'd look I don't think Roy is GonNa win. I understand why he's the favorite. Do you think Roy Finishes Top Five Live. Yes Yup Tiger finish his top five now but I think tiger around for the weekend yes you were going to say wait. What were you going to say there? I think Tiger Fides top not twenty five okay. I thought you were going to be thought he was going to be in contention. No no I think tiger finishes twenty five I think he finishes somewhere between seventeen and twenty two nope if he I I think for tigers a win if he makes the weekend and I'll tell you this. I The guys that I love this week. We'll get to tiger at a second since we're just rattling off. We're going some bullet points here but guys that I love. I Love Rory. I Love Brooks. I Love Justin rose. I love Mark Leash woman. I Love Andrew Schlafly right there and I love and I love Jon Rahm. Oh Okay Yeah Okay and I love Tommy fleetwood. Yes e- fleet was another one. I really liked fleetwood. I really like Zander Shaw flight. I'm not I like Hey Justin rose but I'm not one hundred. I wouldn't go all in on them now. Yeah I just I don't know I don't know if right now <hes> him in Lordy his caddy nephew. If for people who don't know don't remember his normal caddy foods came back for a couple of weeks and then they split again now food they it was put out there that was for health reasons. Maybe it is but now Lordy and Stinson had already split so stinson was brought in early in the year. If you remember when Justin rose one the play the farmers farmers insurance open earlier in the year play fantastic now food comes back on the bag justice starts going into a slump. Things aren't one hundred percent great with swing eat but just didn't talk about how the schedule messed this swing and the reason that he said that was because he all of his preparation was thrown own haywire because of all of these major championships being bunch together so I don't know that I'm a hundred percent behind Justin rose right now I think he might catch lightning in a bottle but also justin rose one of those guys for me. I wouldn't be surprised if he finished top five but also wouldn't be surprised if he missed the cut rose YEP. I don't yeah I mean I don't Miss Nick. I think you're going to see a lot a lot of star power around this week and it but this is that one major tournament in that one major championship then allows itself for the story typically typically this the P._G._A.. These the two majors there's that Augusta is for certain type of player the U._S. Open a certain type of player these two tournaments especially the open because of the style of course. I think it broadens the field a little bit but I. I also believe I also believe that it also allows your star power to shine. I believe though this for me. It's these two things the two things that determine the open championship number one is the weather her Mother Nature Mother Nature is the biggest determining factor for the open champion shot which then goes into which which side of the draw are you on and then it's the person who's the most creative native around the Greens. If you remember one of my favorite open champions is I love the fact that anyone can win. Anyone can win this open. If you remember I mean we were all rooting for Tom Watson but Stewart cink ended ended up winning it. If you remember one of my favorite wins was Todd Hamilton and the reason that I loved the Todd Hamilton Wayne was because he made the bump and run with the hybrid pretty much famous and I play that shot a lot because of seeing him. This is one of those golf courses as well where I mean earlier this week. Tiger was showing Patrick read how to hit chips with a five hour. Oh is that is not how you play in the United States at all. No it's not we played the air game. Yeah we play the flock shot. How high can you hit it? And how soft can you land it. Can that's right forearm. His hires a wedge over here. It's like art we got one hundred students sixty yards to the flag perfect landed one twelve. What you heard me landed one twelve or it's going over the back and I love that and tigers also talked about the design of this golf course where because of the way that the wind blows around here he goes you stand on a t and you're like well? That's stupid. What did they put the bunker there and then the wind blows in another direction and you go so is he because so you know we talked about with tiger all the time when we were tiger comeback it'll be we would I._D.? Majors that we thought would be good for him. We always have the open championships because he's so good with that Stinger off the eighteen driver too much in terms of driver. What's it looked like Tigers GonNa do this week? He's going to see but that again. It's very win dependent. It's very much dependent on the wind and like that I was only four twenty one but the problem with that I whole is there is from the fairway on the left hand side. There's a bunker that's to to to ninety to reach it. If it's almost everyone could fly it almost but twenty pieces off the fairway left is out of bounds white stakes. I should say penalty area but white steak penalty area and you think well bail out to the right. No no seventeen paces off the right hand. Side is also white state. You literally could have dudes being announced on the I t now playing and then a minute later going now playing his third now playing his fifth now playing seventh like so there are places and number two is that way down the right hand side so there are places where driver if you were confident and hitting everything exactly act like you wanted to hit it Brooks Kapka you could pull the driver out and go to town. We're talking about tiger dough and like you would just say we talked about earlier about how man when it comes to majors which one set up the best for Tiger Tiger well think about this now. There's only going to be one and it's going to be the masters and the reason for that is now because this schedule doesn't give tiger enough enough time off to recover and then gear up to go again the only tournament that gives him that opportunity is the masters and Tiger said something in his press conference that I have waited for years to come out of his mouth with these injuries. He's an icon and when he said I was my jaw hit the ground and he looked at me because I've been saying this forever. He said I gotTA play less. If I WANNA play longer yeah mad you know how how long have been screaming that to mountaintops tops yeah now tiger said it he he's like we talk about what the new schedule that. I mean you Miss Danton. It's not good with the tour because you're not Tiger Woods Meyer you. It's always been well whatever show the big ones and he said if this week he said you know my games not where I wanted to be right now but that's that's who were getting for the rest of his career and we didn't know at tiger. We were getting last yeah at the open champion Japanese the lead at one point going into Sunday. You brought up a good point on sportscenter with me on Wednesday morning that weather temperature is going to be a key for him. Yes it is neck in his back in it being tight just think of the P._G._A.. Championship everybody was like Tiger can just show up and look at his record how member he's one here before. D you think his back cares like I understand as a fan. You're like me and tiger. All these gotTa do a show up and he's got a chance and that's your heart talking. Not your head because your head is going to tell you <hes> four back surgeries fifty degrees outside <hes> this is GonNa get loosen up probably not you know do play with Brooks kept brooks beaten by what seventeen in two days in brutal conditions. What kind of conditions do you think we're getting in Northern Ireland? That's right so it's just you're going to see Tiger with K._t.. Tape on by Friday and if he can just the good thing for him is like bethpage Is Different Golf Course in not talk to him about it and it's bethpage was a bombers golf course where this isn't a bombers golf course. It's a ball-strikers golf. Course unfortunately tiger ain't been ball striking lately and I I don't mean he hasn't been hitting the ball well. He hasn't been hitting the ball tournament. Yeah be a good ball-striker. You GotTa Place Tournaments. Hey play one since the U._S.. Open and moreover at the U._S. Open member how bad his party was and this is a course at tournament where like you said around the green and short game plays where you find yourself and contention and you know how much tiger loves slow Greens so where as the distillery talking of sarcasm right there so where do you big picture with tiger. I said I see him anywhere between seventeen and twenty two him like I said if he makes the cut it'll be a win for him to finish fortieth twenty-fifth. Wow so you're talking about. The masters. Champion tied for Twenty Dollars The U._S. S. Open Yes yes. I'm talking about a guy who took three weeks on a family vacation so that his mom and him and his kids he got to go to tile his mom. WHO's from Thailand wanted you know she's she's getting older in? She's getting up there in age and so this was kind of her last time to be able to take her grandkids and her son back to where she's from and show them around so they took a really beautiful family vacation so that the kids and tiger could see their roots where you know from their mom side they came from and that's like I'm not gonNa tell tells them. I don't do something like that. Hell I'm my last name is collins and I gotTA tattooed Asus Okoye Lane with my family coat of arms on it and I'm in Northern Ireland now like a bunch of hours away from Limerick and Cork. I would never tell somebody don't go you do that so you could be prepared to play golf tournament that'd be stupid but that being said Tigers showing up here and he's not prepared and he admitted it. He's said the same so to think that he's going to this is the thing tiger woods woods from two thousand could show up after a month off and find it on the course rice is not that guy but this is what people have a tough time dealing with when they hear someone say out loud like how dare you say eighty something like that about tiger. Look I will say that the Tigers face like it's not like he he knows I he knows I root form. He knows I'm a fan but I'm also not gonNa like I'm not going to blow sunshine and rainbows up is behind just to make them feel better. I gotTa tell the truth yeah he look the days of his domination are done but I also believe his days of winning aren't over right as proven at the masters. He's not GonNa win this week. He's just not but he's GonNa find himself in the conversation at some point. I believe that eventually finished to where like I said you know somewhere low teens high twenties so that's one if he catches them thirty five miles an hour winds tomorrow late afternoon when he's teeing off and that rain starts coming inside ways yeah. It's all the draw especially at this tournament. We see this all the time. If you get the right side of the time did you could go low and then you get the rocks out of the time you could go home right yeah. It's just hang on for dear your life so that's what it's GONNA end up coming down to all right. It's anyone who listens to the podcast that each of us caddy. I have separate types of back pain. 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I know out there. This week has been Phil Mickelson and the weight loss. I just talked to him. I talked to him on Tuesday Tuesday afternoon. He was getting ready. Go Out and they gave man you want. I let me just say something over here. Bro There is no shame in their game when they're gonNA clown somebody they brought fill into the media center to give him an award for being the longest inside the top fifty and a world but the guy who introduced them goes unfortunate as he's telling all these accolades then proceeds to go. This is the during a press conference. Unfortunately he was around in the Tiger Woods era so he was never able to get to world number-one and like even look fills faces. I brought what the hell was that for me not lying. I know he's not lying but you're going to do that as you give it somebody in award board. Here's an award but you know you never really got to the top like why. Are you going to say that you know what I mean like you made a nice girl. Pot or sister was a supermodel like why why even bring that up yeah. There's no reason no no there's no reason whatsoever now. I talked to fill and was like okay man. You gotTa tell me about this fast because we know I had another friend of mine was like Yo Dudas ten day fast. It's like body reset. It'll be great to real good for you. Fill come on man and talk to me. Fill loss sixteen fifteen pounds in six days and now the only thing he's eaten is fruits vegetables and nuts yeah because he's got a reacclimated body yes so here's the problem so he's missing a cut key no chance whatsoever and it's not look he looks fantastic. I'm Gonna I'll tell you right now. He showed me a picture day six where he was doing. He had a shirt off and he was doing pull up and I was like he goes. I show you this picture and I was like I don't know if I don't want to see this man but he was not check it out and he almost looks he is very close to a six pack. I was thoroughly impressed like Phil back in the day was extra large and we're trying to wear it's medium. We'd always make fun of him. Because of it you know maybe he oh yeah yeah yeah and even Tim talked about like this due to eat anything and everything like he would just pull up crispy cream. Get himself a dozen and then pull another dozen because he knew most of the first dozen was going to be gone on ride. You know pull up into McDonald's Donald's all of that stuff now. She is like going completely off the deep end and the most important thing is for everyone who's like yeah but it's GonNa make swing better no one eight and exhibit A. Caro Pederson Pederson and you go who exactly and the reason that you're saying who is because Carl Pederson used to be a really good golfer little chunky little heavy like Andrew Johnston Day decided side. I need to work out lose weight to law seventy pounds looked awesome and guess what happened to swing. It went in the stinky place why because all his life he had been chunky so he was used to swinging around a belly. What do you do when the bellies gone? All the swing gets better. Nah Not if that's all you've ever known Noah. Don't it gets worse yeah but you forget that he started his career thin Phil what he was a fee knob growing up at Arizona State. He's been thin before that would be fantastic if you get fat overnight but I can tell you the same thing that my old trainer told me it didn't take you a week to get that fat and they take you a week to lose fat so civilised that so as great as it is that and I'm talking about now translate that to swing where even if you're doing all the right things and you lose a ton of weight real fast he's still says he told me he's not working out hard but he's doing light workouts with yoga and stuff like that but the problem is he's been swinging around a belly and a perfect jest for years not months not weeks not one year years and now he's got his skinny new frame. His swings going to be all over the place and even the a feel in his hands is going to be so much different now compared to what it was so why why do it now. That's what I know. Here's why he gave out and I completely 'em with them on doing this. Because Golf is not the end end all be all when it comes to life and family and you know the health problems that Phil has with the arthritis stuff that is going through and whatnot so it's like if doing something like this is going to make his life better thirty years from now and make it so that even when he's not playing golf and wants to go on vacation and do stuff with his kids and his family and at some point hopefully his grandkids then you know what it was worth it it was under no I agree with all of that. I'm talking to why do it so close to the open championship because you know how we talked about last week where you said you believe that Phil doesn't think he's GonNa ever win. Another major sure I said another U._S.. Open A U._S.. Open yeah but I thought he said he was just done. I think fill is at the point right now where he's like. I'm good like I I said last week on the podcast that I thought Phil was trying to use reverse psychology but I honestly believe now that feels just going to have fun playing golf and results be damned like he whatever if he wins again coup a regular tournament or whatever or if he gets into contention that's fantastic but I think now fills just going to focus on having fun in life and I think proof that putting is his social media activity yup so yeah and look I. I believe that he's in play. Maybe for another two turns at every major but the U._S. Open but I'm with you. The windows closed at knows that as well which is why he's starting to take measures physically social media and really recreated himself it to this new brand coming up next. We've we've broken down to course. We've broken down tiger. We've broken down Phil. When we we come back? We'll give you a lot of people reach out to some social media at Madyan Catty A._T.. 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Dot Com give me a favor to watch and then give me an underdog or to watch while help. The Patriots went somebody all right. I'm going the opposite direction. I'm going to start with the mega underdog. I okay okay. Who Do you have heart? I love the feel-good story of the dude that got in offer his finish at the Scottish Open last week Andrew Beef Johnson. That's a good story John's done Johnston look up. If you you know after you're listening to the podcast going you to Google and google his interview after the Scottish Open Andrew Johnston Okay and watch him get emotional when they tell him that he's in to the open championship what it means to them and this dude at three hundred one odds I mean just though a little five spot down on him and see what happens which all I can your it's crazy because the two houses that are over here ladbrokes and William Hill they are paying <music> out ten to ten spots really yes. So what does that explained that to the listener so you you can <hes> it. There's two bets you can well to bets when you're betting on some of the win. You Bet it's called each way so let's say you put ten pounds down you. I want five each way so it's ten pounds so you have five pounds on some of the win and then five pounds on them to finish now inside the top ten so if they finished tenth it pays is one fifth okay you know so but if they win pays full out so you get paid twice so if they win you get paid five pounds for the win and then the five pounds for the each way which is awesome. It's kind of like that. Yes it makes it makes it a lot more fun and I can't I hopefully they'll do stuff like that. In at some point in the United States they'll pick up on that and do it because it makes it a lot more fun because has now you're rooting for guys. Come down the stretch on Sunday just if it normally pay out seventy six six or seven spots but then the payout is is one seven one fourth or one third so makes it better so anyway start with Andrew Johnston at three hundred one <hes> as my outside guy the guy who I like in the middle of the pack okay. He was at twenty five to one the last time I looked Paul Casey A._C.. Yeah I like that this week so under the radar and the fact that his last start was a fifth-place finish at the travelers again under the radar and Ado. Dude who's had great history at the Open Championship and yes even though he's knocked on the door bunch times but never been able to break through being in Northern Ireland. All the focus is going to be on rory and Graham McDowell and then look Brooks kept go and his caddy Ricky Elliott but now Paul Casey can come in under the radar and if he gets the right side of the draw at twenty five to one he's worth maybe ten to twenty though down a little tanner you know if you got some extra though twenty dollars down on that not not a bad payday that's that's probably I like that with a lot. Yep My guy at the top. I look I'm staying with him and I ain't getting off of them until this do finish is worse than second. It's Brooks Kepco Yeah even at ten to one at ten to one if you put twenty dollars on Brooks Camco you're still going to make enough money where you can go crazy on stuff parlayed later on you know what I mean. That's two hundred bucks. You go has some fun phone with like that's for me. That's at ten to one. It's still a good money. Bet Yeah at for a guy. That's the world number-one it makes majors his his personal member guests I would say that ten to one and for those I love the and you're making brooks angry that he's not the favorite at world number one. This is always looking for a reason to have his chip on the shoulder and you just gave him a big one yup and he's you know he's GonNa lie. He laws aw I mean he admitted this week and as a practice to the regular tournaments he gets ready for the majors and again. He's on top of the Gulf world for a reason. I love all those pigs. I Love Adam Scott. I Love Yeah I love you know. He's a guy that I would take a look at it as well all right so and I let him choose. Paul Casey typified the one eleven right so my underdog. I like a guy right now that I'm seeing eighty to one Eddie pepperell up role I think Eddie Pepperell is the type of player that can come out of nowhere because he has the game to win and conditions in this course I completely agree with you except for one thing is that he's coming off injury. He is bad. He got some bread. Didn't he go T- did he. Go forth at the Irish Open yes and then forty something to Scottish so he's had a bit of it up. Dow Album went to the injury is scary but he's done enough recently to lead me to believe that he's going to be okay. Yeah Hey man. I like that bet a lot. I yeah yeah so eighty to one. I like him at forty two one. This is kind of one of those good money money bets that we talk about refinded name. That's for some reasons at forty two one in for the life of me. I can't figure out why decky Matsuyama is at forty two one. I'll tell you why why because he hits the ball to high eight he does he has he's not good at flighting yeah and flight ball flight. This guy like that couture has got a low ball. Flight is someone to take take a look at but if you look at the guys that cluster of forty two once caddy you've got bryson had decky Jason Day in Jordan speak and Tommy Fleetwood fleetwood. There's two dudes right there that I would jump on at forty two one and it would be fleetwood in Jordan man I who was the Gimme the forties to the forty two rain Bryson. I loved the death but I'm saying no this week. Forty one forty ready to watch is a good collection of talent. You've got fleetwood. Shambo had decky Jason Day Jordan spieth. Oh that's Jason Day one but the problem for me with Jason Day eyeball flight. What's that high ball flight? Nah Ah I mean yeah he but he can flight it a little bit lower when he wants to. The thing that I'm not sold on yet is the marriage of him in Stevie Williams yeah. That's that's. I'm not I'm not sold on that yet just because I don't know Stevie and Adam Scott were good together for a while but then they got very contentious at the very end because Stevie is very type a personality which which is why him and tiger when they were at their peak that no one was like Stevie could've went out there just with the golf bag and probably put a score without hitting the shot because he's that laser. I don't Al even what you call it but you would just say he just has that Moxie I out that's how he rose Jason Days not the same kind of player as tiger woods like when Jason gets into trouble. He needs somebody to talk to him to to kind of talk them off a ledge or just be there to be like hey man. We could talk some stuff steve. He's not that type of guy I mean think about this Raymond Floyd Greg Norman Tiger Woods thinking those three personalities personalities and you tell me if those three guys then the next name that you're thinking in your head is Jason Day I. I'm not saying it won't work. I'm just saying I I'm not seeing someone's going to have to convince me on this. I don't see it so the matters a lot that yeah that's a good cluster at forty. Two one and I and I like Louis used as and fifty to one. Maybe some decent mid major money on then the favorite that I'll lane with. I'm just because I feel like it could be his week. John Robb sixteen to one. I just feel like it could be his week. I really I don't know why and I and I used to love him at the majors then even blow up but I like in this week a lob. I'm not not gonNA say that's a bad pick man because as people as people say how temperamental he is he has played some spectacular golf in some brutal conditions Yup and I mean like hitting hitting it sideways and just finding a way he is one European tour events where the weather has not been good so mad. You know what like sixteen to one. I'm kind kind of feel you on that one. That's right. You know what I'm cool with it. Yeah I look and I here's what I love about this tournament and I know obviously it's different for you because you're there but for for us over here stateside I mean I get to wake up at three thirty four. I am and watch golf and I love it and I absolutely love that aspect of it so I can't wait to see your coverage over there this week in this weekend. Hopefully we gave you guys. Some good loyd abetted advice ultimately. Don't you know about the distillery you know what the people need to know about the distillery have Adam. Does I found out about do you know what the differences between an Irish whiskey and Scotch I mean I learned stuff man. I learn stuff. How about this how about because we want to get the people as much information as we can't before the tournament starts? Why don't we table the discussion on the distillery still ready for after the tournament and we'll recap your entire week that was in Northern Ireland? I want to hear about that and I wanna hear about the courses. I WanNa hear about all of it. Okay we talk about that on the next podcast. Just you gotTa know you boy got the taste a single malt twenty six year Irish whiskey. What does that make that means this this brew what I got the taste sat in a a a barrel in a Cask for twenty six years before it was cracked open and poured into a glass and then sloshed around and flavor Fli down my gullit it win? Did you go six midnight everyone. I'll know that me there were a couple of people that do they'll drive off the road when they hear because the way you described that I mean it's like you were describing your perfect woman. I didn't think that I could describe something like that but man it was it was a very almost almost almost okay almost the spiritual experience that I'm really anxious to tell you about can't wait to hear because you know what I don't like Scotch and so. I don't know that I would've enjoyed it actually yes you would would because there's a C.. You you would and you will and I promise I am actually going to. I'm going to purchase one of those twenty six year bottles and bring it back. I'm GonNa get the twenty six year. Okay get us. I think I'm going to get either a sixteen or twelve and then I'm GonNa get a ten and bring them back and can we share a yes okay yes and I would I would let that you taste the twenty six year and then I'll let you taste a scotch and you'll you'll immediately go. That's if you're not a scotch guy. You'll be like that that that tastes completely different than really okay okay good and there's reasons why and that's what's going to be cool and then this this master stiller explain then why Kentucky whiskey and Bourbon is completely different than Scotch Sh- which Scott's the only reason they call it scotches because it has to come from Scotland so scotch whisky and then Irish whiskey but they're all made differently which I was like man. This is fascinating and you know I geek out on stuff like that and now house alcohol like Oh. It's yeah next week's podcast who is going to be awesome especially after we see what Mother Nature does in what we're tiger finishes and does feel mistica Jon Rahm all our picks <unk>. Hopefully I can't wait yeah. This'll be a move because I gotta run down now before this thing get started you know put me a couple of couple of pounds. It's funny. Northern Ireland uses pounds and the Republic Republic of Ireland Ireland itself is using heroes so blinded you better have euros as -posedly job across the border and you gotTa have pounds see we alerted so this is all kites again alrighty. Let's leave the people with that. We gave them the knowledge. Hopefully it comes through caddying apple recap does for you. I take next week. We cannot wait to watch the final major championship season and then break it all down in here all about the distillery.

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Ep. 87: July 17th - The Open

Bro Bro Bro Bets

22:42 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 87: July 17th - The Open

"Asking good afternoon gamblers hello this is pro se podcast four degenerates by degenerates hurts <hes> it is our pleasure to welcome on the phone for this episode and every episode that he can make it <hes> one kyle gump Cathcart guppy. How are we buddy good morning gamblers yeah? Let's so we are you normally do these around eleven. I remember that companies on the West Coast so he's getting up nice and early for us. Fresh Gulbis been up for a few hours to like you. You've been up for a while. You gotTA study you gotta get your work in before the show where you painting ships yeah yeah until about one in the morning so you're paying ships until one and then you woke up like six A._M.. For us the most dedicated man in fucking gambling Kyle gump Cathcart. I mean just an incredible human <hes> as of right now now he he'll be joining us. I said every day that he can <hes> before we get into last night as always as far as <hes>. This week is gone. Are we are being sponsored by the tour junkies. Make sure you go listen to the tour junkies. If you love love if you listen to us. You probably love gambling if you love gambling on the P._G._A.. Tour you should listen to tour junkies podcast. It's phenomenal and if you're not you're making a huge mistake. They have one over one million dollars to their listeners <hes> daily fantasy sports and betting leading this year make sure you go check out the tour junkies podcast <hes> anywhere you listen to Oh anywhere you listen to buck all the platform all of the fucking platforms. Thanks thanks to them there U._S.. Open preview is out now we we'll be doing ours today. We'll be welcoming Evan Fox before we do that. We do this every single day. Let's go to the right side gump. You weren't here last night sorry yesterday. I was definitely on the wrong side though yeah I made a mistake I never bet on my team. Yeah I bet on the Red Sox last night for some reason fucking dumpster fire for being honest I fucking took them to and they absolutely letdown everyone just like they have all fucking season-long. I think if you've taken the red sox every single game I think you're they're probably the worst as far as payouts because to start off the year they're always like minus three hundred and they lost every single fucking game and now every time I pick them as a favourite they fucking lose. I hate him. I hate him. Got beat the B. If you're probably out of house and home dude it's fucking ridiculous but other than that we did well we were foreign to <hes> not bad the other the other game we lost was fucking dodgers <hes> because they're also big fucking favorite so in the ninth to they came back took the lead and then blew it in the Ninth Yeah Harper with a fucking rope shot to center. I took the under fourteen and a half in San Francisco and Colorado because I just said it's too big of a fucking line. It's too big of a number and it was eight four for so good for you. I'm sticking with that fucking big under I five five and a half <hes> Texas and Arizona. I believe we're both on that taught a double stem. <hes> was three one so nice little win their Miami. I five plus. The half from todd everyone in seven three didn't even didn't even need half the need and then the Cleveland Indians run line minds the half <hes> they won eight nothing the Detroit Tigers are very very very very bad. You gotta you you got M._l._B.. Picks for today. I got three good. You can do best though you guys can start all right. We'll do we will start. <hes> todd will go with you. Who's your best bet today for baseball my best bet today or the cardinals okay taking them over the pirates interesting there at home Colonel Daniel Daily? Oh that's my sole reason for taking cardinals today. I love that name you not only found the Fountain of Youth. Here's a great frigging can pitchers on fire right now. One Zero one point nine nine e._R._A.. In four starts he's pitched eleven point one innings and July only allowing one earned run and four hits and he's had thirteen strikeouts in that stretch. He has a one point. Oh Oh to e._R._A.. In home take the card here. They're going to have a day against Chris Archer. He's he's not getting the road. He's owned three with the seven point three two e._R._A.. So look for the Cardinal Bats to be alive interesting pick their yeah. Hey like. I just would like to remind you that the parts of the number two in a major league baseball versus right handed pitcher. I get it but they're going to face a lot of right handed pitchers Ashir and really well. They're all right all right. That's fine because the reds are fucking really good. No no we really bad all right my best bet so many to pick from five picks today. I love the are there's there's a lot of Nice lines today man that being said it will probably blow up in my face a lot of lines out there that look good right now. My Best Bet d-backs. I five money line Robbie raise on the mound he at one point four six E._R._A.. N._G._O.. In July sorry in July <hes> he's going into Texas Rangers who happened to be thirtieth versus left hand pitching staff over the last month <hes> so look for them not to hit hopefully and then Jesse Chavez is on the mound for the Rangers. He's giving up four four and six runs in his last three starts over five and six innings so I'm going with d-backs I five money line as my best bet guppy. What do you got buddy? I got the brays so I took them at minus one fifteen last night we'll sporting and they're not getting plus half a run against the brewers are we doing. I five Yeah Okay Keiko's three and two with a three point O. Nine year age but he's coming around memory started the season late only six start but he's gone seven innings in his last three giving up two runs or less than I love this line against the brewers. What do you what do you say you're taking? You're taking braves saves. I take a half. I think it's minus one forty. Yes a half against the brewers just to be safe. It's exactly what it is great pick. Those are our best pets there <hes> we'll go around gumby. You said you had what two more picks for Baseball Yep. I got four more autonomy. You got four all right so we'll go taught todd and I I and then we'll go to you <hes> talk. What do you got buddy? I Have Oakland I five minus the half or Seattle as are the best five verse five inning team in the League right now there I five any record at home. It's thirty one fourteen of five that means they cover sixty eight point nine percent of the time the mariners I five any record on the road. It's eighteen twenty six th sex homer Bailey beat Seattle on June eighteenth and pit seven. Point two scoreless innings. I like him in this matchup. Let's go homer. Bailey has not been as bad of late. I first game to do well. That's what we said last night about the red sox to bumpy cash Ashley gave a more runs last night than it has in the past fucking with the Orioles Yup Ninety three with Orioles fucking comes in has never given up a run to Toronto as an Oriole and in fucking comes over and just the fuck did this is why gambling's the worst. I am also the best <hes> my neck's PET NEW YORK METS MINNESOTA twins over the ten. Both of these teams are in the top ten verse lefties. Martine Peres has a five e._R._A.. <hes> <music> in June and a sixty R._A._M.. July versus the mets in his only game this year he gave up he went two innings and gave up three runs on then on the mound for the match. Jason Vargas seven point eight four era in July and he also face the twins this year and he went one inning and gave up four runs <hes> so I'm going with the over ten in this little matchup today for the mets in twins Gump buddy. I have another <hes> plus a half I five I love the reds getting plus a half against Cups and Darvish Sunny Grace Seven and eight innings in his last two with one earned he is having a hell of a season and I just I'm not GonNa Pass up plus a half with <hes>. I'm also going Cincinnati. I five plus a half minus. One thirty sunny grades giving up one run in his last two starts Yu Darvish. He's he's been very he's very up and down the season five point eighty are a in the two starts versus the reds this year so I'm also going Cincinnati plus a half. I five mines the one thirty <hes> double step you. They're grumpy Nice pick todd. What do you got? I took the reds moneyline. Get Him as the dog any gray on the mound. I like it like you say so. Great has been a beast. I am all all on the Centigrade train right now <hes> Yu Darvish for the cubs opposite that's a two and a half stamper yeah. He's he's own three with a five point three three R a home. He's going to have a bad day you. You sent us going to have been YEP that I agree with you. I mean if we're going to be honest. I'm GONNA I like I like your guys but I was like man. I can give them a plus one seventeen if I take the game line yeah I guess you never know what you're GonNa get for the reds bullpen. They're either really good or really. It seems like <hes> so I just trusted just the starter more. That's why I tend to go fairly deep and they've won. His last two starts against the cubs. He's been a fire. <hes> I am going my next pick. I'm going same as I did yesterday because the fucking lines giants and rockies under thirteen and a half I did under fourteen yesterday they are like I can't remember the stats from yesterday. Let me look real quick. They are <hes> giants and Rockies archies twenty fifth and twenty first in batting and Sean Anderson has four E._R._A.. Not Terrible than John Gray for the rockies two point six five June three point seven in July not terrible just let's not not give up thirteen and a half runs and I think we'll be okay for the second night in a row all right Joel John Gray seven innings tour last I vote to Oh so you like that game too grumpy I on the Rockies I was on the rockies first five just because of that and and if they lose they're gonNA get swept at home on a four game against the giants. I just don't see it. I don't hey hey gumby so you're gonNA rockies first five there yes sir you're getting other picks. I have the PADRES I. I five run line against Miami with Chris Paddock on the mound. He had a bit of a slump there for a bed. His last two starts though he's got one earned and his E._r.. As back down to two point eight four todd what else you got you got the dodgers. <hes> Philly Nick bettas on the hill for the phillies is giving up for more on around and for his last five starts when he comes off a regular arrests like he is tonight the Phillies of loss their last eleven starts. I like the dodgers okay so you're going dodgers money line in there okay I for my last pick. I am going with the New York Yankees money line. <hes> Domingo Hormone is on the mound one point nine eight e._R._A.. At home point seven five era in July I- Tampa Bay rays are twenty-ninth versus right handed pitching Yanni Chorro says on the mound for them not terrible three point one e._R._A.. <hes> but the Yankees are number three versus right handed pitching so I'm going with them and those are all of our fucking picks excellent picks there. We gave eleven M._l._B. Picture. We we can't put both Cincinnati picks in Oh no we can't oh no we can't begin. Oh Yeah we can take well. Let me see here. We have dynamex Yankees Colorado. The Cincinnati reds. I five plus the half and you're right. You're correct yeah so since both of you are on that first five let's take actually we gave out twelve pics then that's on me. Hey Hey what we did. I'm also so I'm going to take out my <hes>. Take shakeout my twins and mets over ten and a half. I don't like it that much. It was the least of my picks so wait. Oh No hey I could leave that in. That's automatic Leib foxy just walked in. He's seeing a voice choice. Well run. Show gun to your head for what N._B._A.. N._B._A.. Who Gun to your head right now? Who you taken to win the title Lakers of course you did God oh? I didn't know grumpy was in this way that threw me off. What are you gonNA be? I got the Lakers for sure you've got Lebron A._D.. You know don't worry about that. Though also I talked about this yesterday to do the clippers defense is going to be so time believe. It's going to be so tough literally that three first team all N._B._A.. Defence Guide unbelievable. I'm leaning toward the clippers but I also don't hate the rockets chance right now. I have a feeling man that they're gonNA go off. I know everyone has to work but they said that the same thing about didn't work they lost in a game seven because Paul got hurt to the warriors. I mean it was close. I think the N._B._A.. Works in a weird way though and it's going to end up being the Lakers against the celtics just like the old rivalry always has gone and that's how the N._B._A.. Does it. I don't know how but that's just what I love the Celtics out of the East twenty five to one as far as value <hes> <hes> because I don't think the sixers I don't know if anyone on that team can shoot a three pointer to be on now <hes> literally no one so and then the bucks are still are still the favorite niece. They're still very good. Twenty five to one for Celtics is pretty good value. I like that because I think they got better with Kemba and getting Cambe Yukon Kit to right I mean don't bet against March and then for the West Yeah those like the Lakers the clippers there's there's a law although where's where's he dolla GonNa go korver's out there now. There's a lot of guys still out. There is stacked like Denver in Utah are very very fucking good and no one's really talking about them because they don't have an U Utah Power the. The lights out with Bogdanovich but then you've Denver Utah Portland as like the three teams that are being talked about on top of the Lakers the rockets Houston the West is fucking. The West is very in San Antonio's still in the West last time I checked the Mavericks are young up. The West again is by far way way better than East again if y if whiteside can stay locked in with the trail blazers. I think he'll be a real real help but he kind of turns off. It's a bit worrisome at times. It just feels like one of those things where like you said Denver Portland Utah. They're good but they're not going to do it and even I feel that way. Houston got harden and Westbrook. That's going to be a really good team but you you know at the end of the day. They'RE NOT GONNA Golden State Lights out. That's what I said too. No one's talking about the conversation they still have staff clay and fucking Diablo and that's going to wear. Everyone says it's not gonNA work. DIANGELO RUSSEL IS GONNA figure out a pick and roll man. You'll keep above water with staff until Klay gets back and then they'll just shoot. The lights are like they always do like they were good before durant. Everyone seems to forget that they won before him in. Oh I forgot draymond green. fucking the West is GonNa be incredible absolutely incredible. I don't know how the N._B._A.. Does it dude just every four or five years. It's a whole new league yep. Absolutely whole newly did talk today but here we are doing the N._B._A.. Skopje let's run through a cup of Coffee Day parlay real quick before we get into the open so we got ten picks. It's going to be big. One today. Got I five diamondbacks minus thirty Yankees money line giants and rockies under thirteen reds red's plus a half. I five cardinals minus one forty braise plus a half. I five as mine is a half. I five rockies money line. I five padres modest behalf. I five and the New York mets and the twins over ten and a half. I five <hes> DIMISS anyone there today. Did I miss anything. Did I miss you on their time anyways ten teams. We got ten teamer. They're five to win fourteen hundred dollars today so yeah I get a double down on that. I'm going to put ten bucks down. Okay in two thousand eight hundred guppies go. I might put fucking twenty. How's that make you feel buddy? Do it okay all right so that's that's a cup of coffee a day parlay today. Let's go into the open a little that we bring it Foxy <hes> he was hot start the year so he picked both winners <hes> the first two major. I picked Gary Woodland radical the third one so I mean this show overall. If you listen to it and you take our picks I I subbiah up. I would assume you're betting the woodland pick is unbelievable. I pulled that one. Oh man that'll never happen again. It's GonNa be fun so foxy. GimMe Gimme who you like for the open okay I got you know I hate my picks picks right now because this is why they're all the wall that and there's no Americans on my you know like obviously I always say pick tiger. I'll be honest with you. I really don't think he's going to do that. Well and I feel like he's just been kind of taking it easy. He won the master's the number one. I am so <hes> besides tiger my second favorite Golfer has always been Roy mcelroy. I love him. I think when he's playing his best no one can touch him. That's Kinda chain with Brooks when Brooks is really good. He's he's untouchable as well but yeah I got Roy mcelroy plus eight fifty. Obviously I think you guys have all heard he had the course record there at six age sixteen sixty one and this is like <hes> he's got the entire crowd rooting for him. You know homes so I I love him. And then also this guy he's do okay Jon Rahm Plus Sixteen hundred he won the Irish Open. That's what scares me third place finish at the U._S.. Open so he's been playing good golf. He's due who for one of these things and if it's GonNa happen it's GonNa be a British open so that's why I was hoping that Rom didn't win the Irish open because then I probably would have taken this week. You think he's too hot. I don't know like once he won the Irish open he I if this doesn't make sense to anyone but he fell down my board because he won the Irish now I know what you mean but I mean he did win it and it is a links golf course very very comfortable over there <hes> so yeah I like the romping and then this guy do I feel like this is a study that everyone just Kinda sleeps on and he he'll be in contention all week and weekend. It's Henrik stents in twenty eight hundred. He had a top ten finish at the U._S.. Open and last week he finished fourth at the Scottish open also he's playing good golf and he's just a guy he could get the lead on Thursday never ever lose it till Sunday and hold the trophy all right. Give me let me give you one sleeper and this is my last pick and I hate this guy more than anyone on tour but you know what it just Kinda felt right here good value Ian Poulter plus eight thousand he had a top twenty. It sounds like all right. This guy is just always in the mix somehow if he's playing good and I had to take him. <hes> apparently <hes> titled Me earlier today that people are having used driver on one of the par-three today because the wind is directly in the face so classic U._S.. Open sorry British open the open. Sorry I apologize my picks while so yeah I mean you have the favorites rory. You talked about at home course he holds the course record sixty one shot that six at Sixteen Yup Kapka a little fun fact about him. He's using a caddy from portrush whose native their night is played over a thousand rounds on that course like that so brooks has decided to go with the home course caddy. He doesn't give a fuck about anything does he. He doesn't give anything fuck about anything but the major goes with the flow doesn't matter up new caddy here. We go only only practices. If it's the majors <hes> that was an incredible line yesterday <hes> my three picks besides those Israel favorites then go zander Shaw flee the second last year at the open second masters <hes> third in the U._S.. Open the guys just been playing incredible golfing you you get them at plus twenty five hundred going Zander Shafi there <hes> plus twenty eight hundred Adam Scott he came into port Russia full week early to play with Darrin Crock Darren Clarke who was born and raised in Port Russian currently lives import rush so I like when the players come and do that yeah so I'm going Adam Scott there who was also he blew up a little bit on Sunday. I believe in the U._S.. Open correctly and then my definitely not as long shot as your plus eight thousand poulter but I'm going plus thirty five hundred for cooter Nice top ten in the last two open saw that top twenty in his last four tournaments and it's not a very long course which is which plays well for cooter hits a straight ball yeah so I'm going cooter there. Do you guys have any <hes> you taught her gump. You guys got any picks for the open. Not Not really I mean I'll be rooting for macaroni because he's Northern Ireland's favourite esley but maybe <hes> this one. I'm reading Rickie Fowler. Maybe is my longchamps says it's linked score and I don't know you know he has one hundred bell already so the three or four years ago so no he hasn't won any majors. Roy mcelroy put out. This video got anybody. I'll go mcelroy to let's go okay.

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NLU Podcast, Episode 343: Wyndham/US Am Recap with Ryan Lavner

No Laying Up

57:58 min | 3 months ago

NLU Podcast, Episode 343: Wyndham/US Am Recap with Ryan Lavner

"Beater Right Club today. Yes. That's Better than most. About? It is better than most. than. Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying a podcast. Sunday night recap is going to be a little different this week we are on the road for basically the first time since March filming Torre Sauce, season. Six. I did take the day off from playing today to watch some golf and then we called up Ryan lavender from the golf channel to take us through the weekend Gulf. He's been watching a lot more than we have out here and the guys are film and doing other things. So we've never had him on which seems ridiculous I. Don't know why that is the case he follows the game extremely closely. Falls the AMADOR game, very closely for golf channel, of course, and with the US am going on. We just we brought in we brought in the closer here to talk talk Slamet or golf kind of put this this week event in perspective talked about the wind talk about ladies Scottish open as well. get to that. Shortly we talk a lot about what is in our hands in the hands of the tour players, but we rarely talk about what is. On those hands I told the story when we went to the epic Flash Launch Event, I put on the callaway tour authentic glove and I honestly thought I thought they were just for tour pros. I. Didn't think that because it was called tour authentic like Oh. My God. They they wheeled out like all the really good stuff for this epoch flash launch event I I didn't know you could actually buy them You can the callaway tour authentic love it's tack year. A twenty percent increase in grip performance made from premium Quebrada leather. It's softer and thinner it's infused with grip tech for a second skin fit. So check out the callaway tour authentic glove at callaway GOLF DOT COM I. I wear these things out. I go they last a really long time but I was ready for a new one but I just I hate changing gloves put a freshman on the other day and it was immediate how much better mcgriff was on the golf clubs again check that out calloway authentic glove at Callaway Golf Dot Com let's get to our chat with Ryan laughter. All right laugh I'm riding hard on you this week. I. You know I I'll probably mentioned about thirty five times while we're recording here that I'm abandoned right now. Not Watching. A lot of golf watch some golf you're on. Sunday. But I'm hoping you watch some golf this week I don't blame it all in and by the way we actually couldn't be further apart almost on a United States map I. Think we're like more than three thousand miles apart. Urine in a golfing heaven and abandoned dunes and I'm. In my house sweltering because it's Orlando. Florida. I'm extremely envious and in other words well, I was really questioning some of my life decision today that I spent most of my afternoon watching the Wyndham. A while being next to some of the greatest golf courses on the planet But we did I did watch I watched today I watched I kind of didn't didn't catch a lot in the in the days leading up to it but how about Jim Herman? Who saw this one coming I mean was this everything that you hopefully when you sat out or eighteen or thirty, six whole day advantage that you wanted to see Jim Pull through and shoot one, twenty, four on the weekend. He gave us something at least. I. Mean it was. It wasn't the leaderboard wasn't getting me super jacked up going into it by I wouldn't have picked him. Herman. Is something that I would wanted to happen in particular but the way he played on this weekend and like the the the the shot of him inside the trailer wherever he was watching. It from legit they captured that. So well of he, he not want that playoff i. feel like every time they go to that shot guys are just kind of sitting there. They're acting calm they're acting cool. I'm sure they're freaking out on the inside, but he was visibly wearing what looked like some very, very real nerves in that trailer dude, he drank from water from a water bottle with the CAP on. You can't even make the stuff up and it's not like this is his first win either. One he won last July I know. But it doesn't. You know for somebody that has struggled much since the wind doesn't you know get a ton of starts still and I I said this twitter like. One of my favorite stats maybe I've ever seen. Is that he won on the PGA tour last year and didn't make the playoffs, which is has to be an opposite field event for you to do that. But it is truly one of the most amazing thing. I don't even know how that happens. He was heard I think for for a good chunk of that but but I mean your your point remains is that The do when he sniffs contention and it's not he does not do it very often. But when he sniffs contention, he is absolutely cutthroat. I mean who they foil. He made three birdies I think over the last six holes the birdie on seventeen was really good and then I to shoot one, twenty, four on I know as lift clean and place and it's it's it's target practice out there. For, a guy who hasn't done absolutely anything. Over the courses of this PGA tour season we're looking back brookes. CBS. It blew up at harding par shot seventy four on the final day Jim Herman shot worse than he was the only player in the field who shot were improves kept on a day when everybody was getting it and already park and a week. Later he wins in the tour. It's insane I. Do love like the true come from nowhere. I know it's like easy twitter fodder to post the recent results from somebody that has come out of nowhere. But what this guy has done a three to three wins, he's huge too I was in and out of catching the audio I don't really know how well they highlighted like. I mean you would know the criteria better than I do three wins get you on the champions tour doesn't. God. I'm not sure about that. By the time he gets to he's forty two by the time he's fifty. They may have changed the rules by then who knows but I think it's something along those lines that you've void I mean he's Almost he's almost ricky territory at this point. That's scary. I thought we wouldn't get their today with big randy not being on the episode. looped right in there and went for that nobody wants to ever remember Ricky's European tour wins. It's probably the only time I'll ever use European Asian toward is. Listen it was Abu Dhabi and it was a Scottish. Open. It was not like the. Sicilian. Open those are big events capability. I. Thought I'd get a week off from having to do this. Jim Herman here's another stat has as many tour wins over the past thirteen months is Roy mcelroy i. saw that one that you tweeted that was a little. Thirteen months that's a very selective in points I might say is extremely selective because. You did not want to see what Jim Herman did for the previous ten months. Yeah. But I mean facts first win came at age thirty eight, and now is one three times on tour by the age of forty two as well. So I mean I I love I love these types of stories. It's a it's a guy who obviously has toiled for for decades trying to find the big stage on the PG tour and and to do it now in an era when. You've got the Bryson's in the camps and the females pumping out two hundred plus ball speeds in hidden as far as they can and just reducing these classic courses down and nothing for for Jim her to be able to do it while Dinka out there to eighty end just rolling in from everywhere. What do you have? Almost four hundred, fifty feet worth of Putz. I don't WanNa see every single week on the PGA tour, but it's a it's a cool reminder that. There's there's still some lifers are absolutely grinding out there and when they actually see that that career reward come to fruition it, it certainly is filling and satisfying the TV viewer to, yet it's weird like I feel more satisfaction today then save billy horseshoe had one. Yeah. Totally and I was kind of looking at the kind of preparing some things for her show to win I thought he was going to win. His social number one on the list of sneaky guys that have sneaky amount of wins that you wouldn't think have that many wins because we were talking about. Five has five one is that town Zurich? Yeah. That counts against Iraq. And he had you know as a bunch of other close calls too. But who else is on that list of guys in your? Kind of putting on the spot here. But guys that have a sneaky amount of wins that most people wouldn't say like, Hey, this guy I know ricky always is the barometer like this guy has as many or more wins than Ricky Lake Web comes on he's got. webs got as many as Brooks Koepka, which is a very wild set in my mind we need. We also need to get into Brooks Koepka. That was a curious week for him web. The one who always comes to mind for me. What's Jason Day Got Jason Days Got Twelve I. Think He does and mine is brand netter. He's got nine, which is just kind of sneaked. Yeah. Half Pebble potentially I think Ed's is I like the king of I don't know what to call this category, but it's like guys that you don't. You don't count on every week. If Branston editor misses the cut if Billy Horsham the cut, you don't notice anything right? Ricky misses a cut like you would probably notice probably somewhat get talked about but guys that have won a ton of events yet still fly completely under the radar. So snags on the Wyndham twice he's won the heritage farmers insurance. Open Torch Championship. Only. The he's got two wins at pebble, beach and two at the farmers. So many ones is couture have he would nine he's nine. There he is. But I feel like couture sledge's a nice pole. Yeah. That's nets might be the king of that of that team as far as just weirdly a lot of wins instill still an active player. So we'll talk about what a, what a, what are you seeing there I was not surprised at all. He's playing how many weeks in a row and I mean there's a potential for him to play. Would it be ten or it'd be not be nine a row and ten of eleven once you get to the US Open and I wasn't surprised to see him at all it was more like Brooks at a strange week in that he's he's billed himself as. Golf Truth Teller and. He. Hasn't been all that honest as late. And like last week it was it was multifaceted. The first part is. You know the the DJ stuff and him saying that the media. Writers like myself. Have overplayed the friendship but did you know that was that was brooks who has said these things like there are repeated examples over the course of history in which he said. In one instance, he's my best friend I love it. I love the guy to death and that we hang out all the time and so for him to just backtrack on that and said that that it was us. certainly didn't sit well, and then like the injury thing to me is so strange. Because I want to get into this because there are other sports. Football. Basketball. Baseball. I think you could even make a case for tennis that you would not. Want to disclose an injury because it puts you at a competitive disadvantage, right? There is nothing of the sort in golf. That if he says, yes, I've got a partially torn Patella Tendon, which is what he had last year needed to have this dental treatment it becomes out and said, says that that's great. We finally have an explanation for why he can't get up on his left side and why his ball striking has been so consistent in why he's he struggled off the tee, I mean just say. But for him to say over the past. Couple of weeks. A my hip is not an issue and then be this week. He'd he told a will grant the Wyndham that is not his neither. So so what is it's like a lower body injury. Hockey does ignition like it's just a lower body injury. Now, just be honest with you. If if you build yourself as Mr Honesty, it kind of cuts both ways does not amen to that I. mean he's kind of. I feel like what what you're talking about there is has to stem from this. I'm an athlete, not a Golfer Right. He doesn't. He doesn't want to make excuses, which is certainly admirable. But there's a rationale this you would stop getting asked if you're just honest about it. Yeah. It kind of seems like I don't know I. DO appreciate that he is one of the few guys that is willing to ruffled some feathers talking about other players in and kind of. Sugar about. But yeah, I I see exactly what you're saying if you're not going to be honest with us about what's going on with your own game or whatnot, it just comes off as tough guy like I'm tough. I'm not hurt. No just you know I'm not playing. It's easier to blame bad play than it is like an injury for somebody of his weird ego I guess. I don't know if it's necessarily ego but just his build of on this on this athlete like no chance I. First of all hates factories a golfer second of all. If he an injured Golfer, he would feel even more emasculated. And it's like it's straight out of the tiger playbook. Yes and To his credit over the past couple of years has been way more forthcoming about how he's feeling that we had absolutely zero idea that he needed arthroscopic surgery on his knee. that he had last fall and ended up this couple months but like he'll tell you if he's not feeling well, that was back. Yes I woke up stiff I could not move I could move that. Well, we're going to see how this weekend goes. You know I woke up today an infield great I appreciate that and it doesn't put them at a competitive disadvantage. Up The leaderboard tigers not feeling good. I've got I. got a leg up on him now no. One's thinking like that word about their own game, the worried about attacking the golf course. So this hyper secrecy that Brooks is adopted as in so strange because I'm with you like. How blunt he is how honest he is just approaching everything else in terms of the Gulf way think slow play and some of his peers I love that I love I think we need more of it 'cause. PGA Tour by and large Supernova but this injury stuff and relationship with Dj it just putting him into a whole that just seems unnecessary. No I I. Think also, it ranges from Blunt Blunt Honesty enjoyable to also at times really petty. The price and stuff is starting to get a little bit like. All right man like you've won four majors here. This guy's one zero and you seem to be mentioning him every time you get an opportunity to talk and. Just. Like bullying. Yeah. Yeah. It's Kinda. Funny like at times but at the same time, it's kind of like, why is this so important to you that you you're on a whole different level? And Yeah, I. I. Don't want you to turn into a Polish like media guy whatever that is and. I do appreciate you know the the transition I guess he's had from like feeling like bull I. Feel like he came out it was kind of trying to fake in his way around it and said things he was felt like he was supposed to say PS still didn't really like him or didn't really weren't really naturally drawn to him and then like. All right. Well, why don't I just you know actually say what I actually think and still probably not experiencing that many people liking him and kind of is at a crossroads of how he's supposed to handle some of this stuff. Yeah I wonder if Saturday the PJ was an eye opening experience for him because. It's all fun and games and he's torturing Bryson her or Sergio where. Or slow play or rory in. You know you can get some. You can get some chuckles out of that and then, but it seemed like it crossed the line when it was Dj like, oh Harm- harmless DJ. Why would you go out of your way to to denigrate a guy who is your one time friend and so I wonder if that could potentially be a turning point for brooks the way he thinks about it because he certainly seemed apologetic not as about taking a shot at Dj but kind of putting down the other guys who were. In that situation, the guys like more Cowan Cam Chiampou who haven't had all that much experience, but we're up on the leaderboard I think Brooks actually felt bad about the way that that came out. but I'm. Taking down the gun fire and DJ. Yeah and I felt like that's kind of understandable. I was we all kind of piled on. An was definitely a part of that for the his comments made after around. But I can see that walking straight off a golf course. Superintendents to compete in a major championship even when there's not crowds around and to just look leaderboard and kind of think what you're saying like you know say what you're thinking quickly after a round I'm sure he'd I'm sure I actually believe him when he says he doesn't didn't like how it came off and sounded because I'm sure it's just not. It's gotta be a hard time to really speak very safely and polished and I I have no problem with him looking at the board and say to himself. Hey Yeah. These guys haven't done before I've done it. I know I. Know I'm confident going into tomorrow but the the public does not like when people say those kind of things out loud if if they're viewed as being disrespectful which I don't think he I truly don't think he meant them disrespect but it definitely came off that way. So it's it's reasonable reaction all around I. Think Yeah and like having seen that hundreds of times and I'm not sure yours at home understand how quick it is from like players getting in this scoring. Going and doing the partner interviews and then we. Do. The. Interviews with with people like me who are were waiting there with notebooks out like it's super-quick it's it's a matter of minutes, and so I don't think he was there studying leader board and thinking of of prepared remarks of what he wanted to say and so I tend to give him a pass. They're just like I tend to give him a pass disappointed players on Sunday they signed their car and they come straight out with a camera in their face and they're being asked to speak eloquently and intelligently and compassionately about. What was a heartbreaking moment five or ten minutes ago I tend to give those players pass to if they say something that's potentially regrettable. I think after a couple of days brooks senior of is ways with the DJ thing just doesn't make any sense at all like you just have to own at this point to say we had a falling out. We're no longer friends I'd like to keep it at that and I think everyone would drop it. Yeah. I mean something happened at the Ryder Cup we're still don't really know exactly what happened there and Yeah I. Brooks also seems like the kind of guy that might be hard to be friends with over a long period of time. Entry. So whereas DJ I don't think I think he's just. Can Go along with pretty much anything a quick break here to talk to you about our friends at Pinehurst I, don't know about you guys have been watching a lot of us, and this week has reminded me of watching the US am last year at Pinehurst number two and number four and the upcoming US Open at Pinehurst in two, thousand, twenty, four again look at the list of those courses you can't sign up and go and play all of them. It's really cool that. Has Made. 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So again, Pinehurst DOT com see what they've got going on their amazing offers. Let's get back to our chat with Ryan Ladner who are some of the guys like when you're on site reporting and and you're talking about the, you know these guys that. Are Coming out to talk to you who are the guys you look forward to speaking to the most who the guys that are the best at handling that, and maybe who are if you're willing to name names some of the ones that you're like I know this isn't GonNa go very well I think Roy can be kind of hit or miss when you when you get them coming off the eighteenth green and look he's playing for a lot more than than a horseshoe or Jim Herman in terms of his legacy in his standing in the game, there's a lot more expectation pressure on him when he's going to win a tournament. And so he he tends to wear his devastation on his sleeve a little bit more Jon Rahm. You could certainly put in that category, Justin Thomas Love, the guy to death but if things go south down the stretch for him, that can be that can be kinda tough Bryson you might not even actually talked to him. But. I think I think Adam. Scott. Probably has the best perspective of players. I mean, he just lives an idyllic life and I think we all WanNa be in, but he's a player who? If things don't go right over the last hour I think you can always count him a show up, which is what all we really want. We need supporting color we need supporting sound for. For Stories and be able to ask in questions of a what went wrong in Embi. Why did it go wrong? I think that's really important. Wait put me on the spot there. Are Good answers. I wouldn't. I'm trying to think I would have thought would have been on the opposite side of like you know one of the one of the the easier guys are better better guys deal. I know what you're saying that that you know after a bad round, it can be kind of. Sometimes. He might not. He might not stop if something goes wrong on seventeen or eighteen is gonNA stop but if he just has a poor. Shoot Seventy, four, seventy, five when he's in lead heading into the final day, there's a chance if not a likelihood that he's not going to, he's not gonNA stick around for questions after in look if it happens a couple times a year I totally get it. We're not the ones who are between the ropes we're just a month asking questions. And so if he's frustrated enough to to not want to stop and dissect every detail, what was a disappointing day I totally get that right. You know the more scenarios like what happens with Brooks? The reaction to those comments. Then the less likely that they are you gonna WanNa stop when things aren't going great or when you know it is big moment because we're going to scrutinize it's tough. It's tough thing to manage for both the writers and for the players and stuff I. Think I think that's why tigers. That's. Look he he might not always say something is news conference after you speaks after he plays around he almost always talks. I? Mean every single round doesn't matter whether he should sixty five, seventy, seventy five doesn't matter if he wins doesn't matter he loses doesn't matter if he's feeling poorly doesn't matter if he's feeling great. You can probably count on two hands maybe a little bit more over the courses twenty something year career in which he hasn't stopped and for people who need to fill up a notebook and write stories into single day to me. That's one of the greatest things that that tiger has done. He is accountable for his own play and I think that type of model. If that was on the PGA tour more widespread I. Think we'd all be in a better place. Yeah. Well, done to reverse course back to the. Wyndham. But one of the only things I jotted down to talk to you about today was if you could help me try to explain what Kim did on the sixth hole today tied for the lead maybe one back horse was making a Birdie right around that time. To either take the lead but. For, those that haven't seen the whole, can you describe the whole a little bit and try to explain why he tried to drive it over the ditch where I can only count me four or five guys the whole week the tried this tee shot I don't know if any of them were ever in contention any point when they did this but can you plan I? I didn't have the sound on for this part. Can you please help me make sense of this? So it's like four hundred, thirty, our car toys with the six over talk about this field and and there's a there's a creek that bisects the the middle of the fairway. And so it's like. Two Sixty to seventy or something like that opportunity. So. Almost everybody just hits a hybrid along IRA. Something down there just to just the busted down there and give themselves. Nid To short iron into the green for the first three days Kim did that. Someone effective I'm I'm looking at it. Now he made a Birdie on the second run made part in third round part. Yes. He played the hole in one under for the and then for some reason he's type lead for some reason I grabbed driver and it was funny because Dadi Pepper. Shakers French in foul that were all screaming at him when he had driver to sense like how unnecess- how much of us, unnecessary risks that is that there's? There's basically no reward whatsoever I mean the the area that he hitting into is twenty yards wide tops. Then there's a bunker which leaves that dreaded like Wedge Bunker Shot, and then there's the native area. The right which of course is where C can slice it into and losses Bowlin may double but like it was so funny in the sense that Dadi following in baker-finch knew it right away knew it right away that this was an absolute boneheaded decision that why would you possibly driver? When you could just just federal. Down there and leaders one, hundred, seventy, five yards into the flag and sure enough. It comes back to bite them then he pulled driver again on he and another bogey and. Let's just see Wu it's inexperienced position and it's just a bad club choice I can help you make sense of see would because I feel like you know when he when he does get in contention. It's another one of those guys I look at them like, Hey, how do you not win like a lot more? Are you really good yet at times just seems completely fade away I. You follow like the Amador game and you follow these guys they're coming up better closer than maybe anyone I know how do you make sense of see? We'll Kim overall as a player. I think you hit on perfectly like you you watch the golf club the way that he did certainly on Saturday. Shooting Sixty two, it was it was like it was nothing. You know he almost may two aces headed to like five feet for the first third par three and it was like. Is. His. Swing of beautiful he's been working with Claude harmon over the past year. Some great stuff, but you look at the statistics. I mean. It's sneaky terrible like he's he's not a good driver his his iron play is really poor I guess around the Greenpeace decent I remember at the. Players when he wasn't that like the big thing that he was just God awful on around the Greens and he just blew field that week and it was kind of a eye-opening experience in that. Oh. Wow. If a guy with this swing can figure it out on our on the Greens. Look out this potential world-beater and it just hasn't. Hasn't. Unfolded like that. Now, partially, it's because of injuries his mindset isn't great like his encores compartment and the way that he handles himself on the golf course not great. But there's something lacking because if you if you watch him play golf. I mean it's an absolute stripe show and you look at the results and the stats. And they they just don't seem like the proper some of the parts. You name his screaming at the television streaming something like screaming like, what are you doing that I don't like armchair quarterbacking decision making for tour pros because I think there's just you know you go. Hope you know you. You talked about it. There's four different that whole four times you gotta make decisions on that. You GotTa do it seventy two times on repeat you make a million tiny decisions and around where you're aiming and approach shot you know the difference in three feet of where you aim it could be the difference in the tournament Blah Blah Blah. But that? of saying do there's no reason to take this on? It's not like a five that you're. GonNa. Cutting the corner and ended up giving yourself a wedge in is just so freaking reckless that I was one of the most bizarre plays I I can remember seeing a tour player make a crucial scituate when crucial situation yet. But every shot is crucial in the final round when you're that close to lead if you're if you're shipping it if you're playing in the morning and you're early on Sunday and you've got nothing really to play for and you to like sure that's whatever. But anyway that's Was that one stuck out to me and I could not quite really understand it. Yeah. I'm not sure if he was trying to force the issue like he'd he'd made Paul on the first five old one of those as par-five. Obviously, he knew that with with preferred lies, there's GonNa be is gonNA take the low one to two? To win the title maybe just tried to push. Push a little bit I'm like like I'm talking about the reward was not there. It is a very narrow sliver fairway they if you carry the creed that you're GonNa have in in maybe then you can have a straightforward look with a wedge like he's not a great wedge player. So I'm not sure why he was trying to put himself in that position anyway, and so I'm I'm not really travels looking to see. If there's any post comments from them I, it doesn't. It doesn't look like there were which is disappointing. But yeah, that was a little bit of a curious one into fact that that those three vets like all knew there was a terrible decision leads me to believe that that was indeed a terrible decision right One Guy that I'm sure you've covered a lot. You know in his college days in an eminent as. I thought we were GONNA have that kind of made a storyline force on the day that they're crowning. A US am champ former US am champ doc Redman. Made a great run at it again in other guy like we don't track week to week, don't follow week-to-week but holy crap can that guy drive the golf ball hit missed seven fairways all week this week he led the field in strokes gain off the tee and strokes gained green and had two putts today that I was were I was convinced we're falling in the middle of the whole the just wobbled off in random directions that kept him from making a extremely serious run at this and miss the on eighteen as well. What do you make of what we saw from Redman this week and is he I guess what? What are you project for him going forward he's tough guy to predict because he he came out of nowhere in finished second last year in Detroit remember. we'll be answering mention that week or Monday qualifier one of the two it was a sponsor exemption and that's what he got special temporary membership on the tour from that, and that's that's how he retained status for this for this next year as well. Yeah. Like he's he's obviously a very good player I thought he was really raw and I didn't think he was quite ready to come out at Clemson when. He did and then he of course it almost me wrong by nearly winning last last year in Detroit. But like got all the tools I just think he he hasn't quite learn how to win. Yeah. Like he hasn't learn how to win at every level. The US am I think really came out of out of nowhere the way that he was that he was playing that year and that seemed like Doug Games. Tournament lose and it was his to lose in until the end in and ground toward stretch it revere to to steal from them. But he's you know he's he super inconsistent. It seems like give them a year to three years I. Think you. You're looking at a solid top fifty player in the world I. Don't think I, don't think we're looking at a world beater. If you look over the history of the US amador's gentleman, it's kind of it's kind of hit or miss where you're GONNA get coming out of that group. That's perfect. I was just looking to transition to ask you about amador how you project out amador champs or people that do really well in the US am. Full. Warning to the listeners we're recording this before the finals eighteen. More holes to go at the US am. I Made Ryan get on. Now 'cause we we got time on the preserve tonight we're going to be missing the US and final but. This has been an especially weird USA m in terms of who is I think saw some stats out there. This is the first time and who knows how long that no top fifty players in the world emitter rankings are in the were in the even the semi-finals. Am I a bad goal fan. If I do not know anything about any of the four guys that were that were left in the US am abandon. No I don't I don't blame you at all because it has been a weird week and thank you had only two of the top ten players in the world just make it out a stroke play qualifying and so that's that's kind of what you get with with Bannon. You're obviously you're you're there now I've I've been there I mentioned that I met Danielle cuts. One Plant playing that preserve tonight yeah. Make. Sure that in probably and probably a lot of the people listening to this have been abandoned as well and it's it's a magnificent place to to spend three or four days like it's. It's awesome I'm not sure you're necessarily going to crown the best player that week i. think that's kind of luck of the draw in terms of what you're GonNa hit with the wind and. I. Think it was the quarter final day of the round of sixteen. It was absolutely pumping like it was blowing thirty miles an hour. Yes. You're going to identify the guys were hitting square on the button and can cut through that but you're also going to get some some weird bounces and just some unpredictability in volatility, and that's that's what you've had this week in advance tally is a is a fine player. He won the north and south amateur the summer one Palmetto amateur. This summary Comes from a lineage of of golfers in his family I mean his grandfather played in the in the masters in the US Open back in the forties of forties or fifties I think it was, and that's great like he's not he's also not a world beater he's maybe third-best on Georgia Tech's team his opponent. With maybe third-best. On his own team now we're talking about really good programs, right? Georgia. Tech in SMU, but these guys they're, they're nice players but I don't think this is like a a Bryce in year. Or a Victor Hoffman here where you're looking at a guy and you can automatically point to him and say that special. That guy special that makes a lot of sense. Do you in the time that you've covered college golfing golf does the population or the pool of talent seemed to be getting as deep as it appears to me who doesn't cover nearly as closely. Oh It's insane. It's insane now, and so if if you've got three hundred plus people vying to be in the US senator, only one's GonNa emerge like it's the guest you would never be able to guess who's going up here in the championship match John Augustine last year Pinehurst yeah his his mass pike record. Outstanding. You never would've put Andy Ogle trade of against him in in what happened over to beat them in. So you look at you look at the round of sixteen and to me that's that's really where I started paying attention to to this and you had a great mix of players like Michael Jordan Johnson who's GonNa play at Stanford. Just a junior player, you had Stuart Haggas Dad in there yet Philip who's played in US Open's before you had William Mild who was a great college player the spectrum runs. So deep now that forecasting these types of things is impossible but I think you can also make the case that it's really hard for these guys to separate each other because over eighty matchplay. Really anything can happen especially on the golf course like Bannon Yeah with the kind of calmed down a little bit out here abandoned where I am currently. It's calmed down the winds calmed down the last couple of days with the first few days we went out and played and it was we got blown off the golf course i. know that kind of shine through pretty well in the coverage that was able to watch. But I think that you know I really firm conditions can help identify the best golfers I think that. But when you combine how firm it is with this much wind I, think it becomes A. Complete crap shoot and that's not to take anything at all the way from the guys that have ended up there. But I think that's at least a contributing factor towards the the semi-finalists that we're seeing some of the to be honest. I didn't know what the WHO the the the big favorites really were coming into. It there wasn't any all y'all didn't make it doesn't matter right like like you said, there wasn't the the guy that's jumping off the page. But so I think that's also the state of College Golf Right. Now like we have this, we had this wave of just exceptional players. I would say over the past five to ten years and I'm not saying necessarily hit a lull right now. But the the players that that we're looking at who are the best players at college were talk about John Pack Played Fsu. We're talking about David Thompson who plays a Georgia Kevin You at Arizona State Ricky replace. He's plan a Florida like those are all really nice players and they're probably GonNa make very good. Probably GonNa have very nice careers DJ tour but. No. One's popping off the screen like a like a Matt Wolf did Gordon Jt did I'm even surprised over the past couple of years. Some of the US amador winners who we saw an up champions who saw who who haven't pop like like maybe we thought we would at the time Aaron wise comes to mind the twenty sixteen. NCW. Winner like you you watch him play golf. At super impressive. You think this guy's going to have double digit win a PG tour. Now he's he's got one, but he hasn't been quite what we thought he was going to be you have matt. It's Patrick was one the an you've got bryson guys have done it right? Like guys have parlayed US senator success into very nice careers. But then you also have. The gun gangs. In you've got the Stephen Fox's. And you've got the Ritchie Ramsey's in the Colt knows kind of a hodgepodge, right? Like I'm not sure. It's necessarily a great predictor of future success. That's that's the that's the takeaway I think as I. I. Long Time I've feel like I've tried to convince myself that if you win the USA and you're going to be a great a great tour pro for many many years and that's not always the case it's a week of golf at obviously you gotTa have a great resume to get there but. Not Not always the greatest predictor. But what did you think of of how Bandon is playing from what you could tell on? TV and we talked some about the wind early on but I think it's pretty amazing that they took it to this the you know the US tournament this magnitude to this wild ass place but. Some people some people were tripping on twitter. They didn't think it was a great championship golf course. What's your big takeaway from the US Banda? Oh No I think I think bannon is absolutely perfect for the US amateur I. Think it's a great match golf course. I think we got about this fifteenth. All of that happened in the semifinals that was wild. Oh, God. Yeah we can. We can get into that but like this to just answer your question real quick I thought it's been great I think it's been the perfect one for playing in a pandemic in terms of kind of being in the middle of nowhere so much wide open space that you can separate yourselves, US Jason, a incredible job of hosting three hundred plus players we can and and the gas in caddies and having it all it all work fine by creating a little bubble out there they should be commended. They've they've done. They've done some things wrong over the past with in terms of. You know US Open setups but they absolutely have to be commended for being able to pull this off in pandemic even though you didn't have qualifying and so bannon has a golf course I. think it probably maxes out at a US amateur right I. Don't think you can stage anything. And he championed to greater than this just because of the infrastructure and in a Latte of the golf course of the impossible to. Put Up grandstands and and have have thousands of fans there but I'd love I'd love to see it again I'd love to see it every ten years I know they've got a stout rotation coming up I think it should be a fixture in that kind of road I think having Primetime Golf. On the East Coast is also a huge I've. I, think it's been an absolute home run. Whoever says this is not. been a great championship I don't think is has been paying attention right now. I probably am I'm looking in the wrong places I usually do yeah you don't be don't be looking at the crazy people interventions. So you mentioned being a great match by golf course, and that's where it really hit me. You know I've always wanted to see competition at abandoned for a long time. I do wonder how great of stroke-play golf course it would be it just it's not what it's designed for I. Don't think it's it's It's not a place where you go out and grind on every single shot I mean for resort play it's I don't know how to how to explain what I'm what I'm saying. It lures you into taking daring shots. Sixteenth hole is incredible for matchplay because you know if it strokeplay guys are probably playing that so conservatively, but it is a great course to take big and they did a great job on the coverage last night. On Saturday just talking about you know how your truly playing you know a match against the other player instead of playing you know tournaments, thou- golf and the fifteenth was a short par-three. It's not a long par three is about one, ninety five that's that's not sure but it's not the link that makes it really hard and the best score that any of the four semi-finalists made on that whole was a double bogey and one I forget who one guy I think Gupta. Won It with a double bogey on the fifteenth tall because for making such a mess out of it. In Gupta like almost threw it away himself like the doors wide open, and then he I think he tried it yet. He tried to hit like this feathery little pitch shot and like didn't even come close to carrying over the Ridge and roll back to his feet of but to they made to amid one double three triples rather at three doubles and triple redoubles in a triples it was three doubles and triple I mean that's horrible as absolutely horrible but I'm totally in agreement with you like I'm not sure I'd necessarily want to see a seventy two hole stroke play championship abandoned. I think the luck of the draw in terms of when you're going to hit his, you know you're going to get thirty mile per hour winds at some point during the day. I, think if you guys are complaining about at the British open way T- contraband and get and get that luck of the draw between the morning and late waivers and so I think it's I. Think it's a great golf course I I've loved how aggressive guys have been. You haven't seen a whole lot of conservative play. I. Think that's that's a sign of golf course certainly but but also the the format where if you are going to make a triple on a par three that it's not going to necessarily haunt you but I've been a big fan of. Of having I really have I think it's been a great test. We'll amazed me is when you have true uninterrupted coverage with which golf channels had. This year is how much I laugh course how much a lot of people are mad about the hours of coverage that the golf channel's been on it's the same as Fox was lash. Fox had a couple of hours of online coverage I've been a lot of people have been very upset about this over the of course, this week on I wanna say I'm also I'm also not attributed these discussions the fact that that golf channel sites NBC has been able to take this over from the from Fox. Like a month and a half ago on the patient kind deserves to be applauded if. You're. Thinking clearly and how it all works with other stuff they're already scheduled already scheduled programming right I mean there's champions tour events. There's know Lpga they got a lot of other live golf that needs to be shown and there's only so many. So many equipment trucks and all that stuff and I don I don't pretend to how that works but the coverage has been. I I think it's been the commentaries. It's been great. You can stick with the drama of these matches when you don't have to take a commercial break every five minutes and whatnot, and you talk about all these match-play factors, bones and Justin Leonard going back and forth it's been excellent viewing owns has been a star right bones is an absolute star walking with these matches and so it's it's so expansive that I've I've seen him like right up in there in the fairway like he looks like he's ten feet from the players describing like I was thinking to myself aren't they going to hear what he's? That's what I thought about. He is really closely I've seen him like walking on the Greens like getting a good re- like it's like he's basically a caddy again like he's so close to the action I think he's been I think he's been a star in kind of his expertise shines in a place where you can play a simple pit shop, four different ways, and so to hear him and have his decades of knowledge has been I think just invaluable as of yet to be able to hear that. Yeah it's it's it's so spot on to just in all of the elements you gotta think about. Some of these pit shots are truly impossible. You are playing the center of the Green from a greenside pitch and I feel like a lot of these guys are not. Used to that, they are very uncomfortable in that scenario and we see them hit like that shot the Gupta hit from over all he had to do is hit the center of the Green. What's his name had already made a mess of the whole all pitched it up onto the green and he couldn't even do it. I'm screaming at the TV like this is why it is really good to watch the best players in the world hit shots off short grass around the Greens because it adds an entirely different elements of the game. You had such an interesting dynamic yesterday those four they've never been in this position before it's by far the biggest stage that they've ever been on then you throw in the. Consolation Prize for just by making it to the championship match, these guys are going to be exempted the masters and the US Open, which is a lifelong dream for all of these guys, and then you throw in the fact that they mostly only know how to hit sixty degree wedges and they're hitting off abandoned super tight lies like you throw all of variables in there and to me there's some train wrecks obviously over the last hour but I couldn't take my eyes off like it was so good. Just knowing all that was hang on. These. Pitch shots there was there was some great moments, but there was also some train wrecks to me I think that's that's fun to watch sometimes too. Well, I'm sure hopefully nothing to. To two parts I hope some dramatics happen forever, entertainment viewing and I hope it's not too dramatic that we sound like idiots having not talked about it because we are recording this as they. Wanted to be like a casual foreign three win. I. Don't care who does it I just want. Yeah. I want there to be like no rules controversial like there wasn't around in sixteen Someone someone cruised for three. What happened in that match? We were watching this on TV, with no sound and we. The. So take us through the scenario of. What match this was and what happened on this on the eighteenth hole in the sixteen. Thoughts around sixteen. It's with who was playing a championship match and looking up and watching right now and he was playing against the. Aleve Pinto. WHO's going to be starting at Arkansas this fall and so the eighteenth hole band dunes is a par five right and so they both hit third third shots in their short of the green and so a little pinto. He's drawn kind of like a it's it's was clearly a newly rake spot. In a greenside bunker and so he's kind of ion up his shot think about what he wants to do Odyssey needs to get it close in order to extend master all tied at this point and all of a sudden, his his local caddy just like wanders in there and just starts brushing brushing the sand like testing the surface he wasn't anywhere near where the ball was. Almost like he was on the downslope first of all, if you're a local caddy. Why would you need to test the surface of the sand shouldn't be familiar with with way like the sand reacts second of all. If you'RE GONNA test spot to see how much Santa's in there, why wouldn't you test like closer ball on the downslope with is clearly going to be less. And third. Never. Played Golf before like, do you know that you do you know that you can't do that and so those real questions that were all swirling in my mind and then it was what the hell are you doing because then he goes the rules official denies it. He did thousand worst part over and over he denied that he was doing it and tell us your factors dad and we can do holder podcasts on tell his father. who was superintendent aggressive lucky called it out immediately like no, you blatantly cheated you blatantly. Tested the surface of the sand. That's a loss of poll and fortunately for this, it's it's a loss of match. But like the fact that the local caddy, the nodded to me was such a tough look. Because it was obvious what he was doing their slow motion, high definition video that captured in doing so into for him tonight was mind boggling to me. Yeah. It looked so blatant and intentional that it was. That's what made it. So curious was just. I'm looking up at the screen right now is not is hit. The shot that we WANNA see guys have to deal with, which is the centerline bunker on the fifth hole. He hits it right at the bunker and it just it just rolled up into it in a terrible spot. This course makes you decide on certain lines and stuff that you wanna take, and that's really entertaining to watch the pros. The not the pros put the best players do It just looked like. He was trying to lose a match form almost and I'm sure that's not necessarily the case, but it was so blatant. So weird and I just couldn't. I couldn't believe it was super impressed with how well saguntum Pinto. Handled that afterward, he took a posted a picture on instagram or whatever it was saying you know this can happen to anyone no hard feeling no one's fault and I if I lost a match at the US am on the seventy or on the eighteenth hole because of that, I, would have a hard time accepting that as well as he did. Yeah like he was he was super gracious and Classy in defeat I thought Telstra FAUCI. Actually his opponent handled it really well, he the first thing out of his mouth was that he didn't WanNa win like that. He feels terrible kind of US kind of shaken up afterward I was. I thought it was super curious. There was people on social media like, yes. I. Totally agree we should not be barbecuing during this local caddy who who, from all accounts it was like his first year catting Bandon. And you know obviously, he didn't think he's GonNa find himself the middle of a rules controversy, but he also signed up for this and so there's there is some Sigua. The population that was mad that we've been printed his name, which is odd because if if your local caddy in, you didn't want the artists, you'd go cash for Chris Allman. Over over over and see brands like he's he, he literally signed up for this and so he's a he's fair game and then be I saw some support like, oh, next time I met band and I wanted WanNa make sure that this guy's on my bag I don't. Want a guy that experience that he thinks he can test the bunker on the eighteenth hole the championship match and think that that's fine like give me a guy who's been there. Ten fifteen years over the inexperienced guy who has got his hat who's got his hat gernon backwards. Yeah. That was tough. Is The caddy every caddy I've ever had here has been just phenomenal in truly they weren't there amazing their their argument most experienced caddies in the country and for this guy, I mean it certainly just it looks poorly for the entire group to be honest with you. Because I. think it can be hit or miss on caddies like whether or not you get somebody there's a lot of I feel like you get a lot of big egos. Sometimes, we'll caddies even at resorts and they're you know used to knowing more about the course than players do, which is, of course to be expected. I've never felt that abandoned just all their everyone abandoned is there to. Tell. You are kind of add to your experience overall, and so I think I haven't really talked to caddies about that here but I have to feel like they have to be just so frustrated that that's the image of Bannon caddies that gets portrayed on the world because I don't think that is necessarily reality but that was just that was a extremely bizarre way to into match. But I feel like it's always something what's the buzz on the ground? There are people shook. That went down. Yeah. I. Mean I think it was kind of like a everyone I've talked to you. There's just like Oh my God I can't pull me that cannot believe that happened I. Think it was pretty much everyone said like, Oh, you know he's a good guy. Blah Blah Blah but Yeah, it's Again. It's kind of like see was driver. It's like I don't understand the thought process that went into that and I I'd like to hear I. Don't know if there's any comments out there from the caddy on what he was thinking there. But before we let you go how much of the ladies Scottish open we're able to catch this morning or this weekend I watched a good bit I walked my twenty month old around the neighborhood this morning then after. I'd sweated through a shirt and he was just. Soaking wet I decided it was time to come in and watch some ladies Scottish Open I watched I. watched a decent bit of it I thought it was really good win by Stacy Lewis, especially considering how dreadfully slow her her playing partners were. Yeah. What was the I feel like I heard a lot of chatter on that I I watched the last hole of the playoff. But what was the feel like that was a major topic of discussion is the slow play in that in the in the playoff or was it in the final group or no? My God the Entire Day Actually was kind of entire weekend and Stacy Lewis tour credit. Just, she does not suffer fools well, and so like after after her third round, she was asked about it and she called she called the dreadfully slow and she even described her to playing partners with our immune knows and Jennifer Song as pretty slow she. She knew that she was going to be playing with them in the fun around and she's still call them pretty slow and. Apparently. They didn't get the message 'cause they. They were even worse they were. They were hovering around the lead the entire day, and then he just ground to an absolute halt and so St Louis was was really frustrate. You can see the annoyance written older in into her credit. She said, she said afterward that she told her caddie on the second hole, she wasn't gonNA. Complain. Like singing songs in her head to just. Kinda take your mind off that in just if you stop for a minute to think about the ridiculous of that. Stacy Lewis is now one thirteen times the LPGA she has to sing songs in her head to pass the time knowing how slow it is going to be in the final group and also knowing that the LBJ rules officials are GonNa do nothing to crack down on him. So I think that was. The most frustrating part in and she pulled off a a great shot in the playoff hold out of the twenty foot on the first extra beat three other players and I got my captor because in the press conference afterwards Ritchie used that platform to agitate for change and called on the LPGA to get tougher on slopes on tour and say, we're going in the wrong direction that something needs to be done about. It so I thought I thought I thought it was certainly a Gutsy win for her was the first one in three years I since becoming a mom and it's also good to have her voice back in the game because because she can seek things happen. She's got a track record of it and and she's going to talk until something gets done. Yeah. Hate it. That was the takeaway I guess from from today was. Absolutely. Unfortunately unfortunately but I if I guess if she is going to call that out in the in the post round interview, then it's probably is going to become a decently decent sized story, but it was the first in. King, almost one three events in a row, which is absolutely nuts her she's one the first two events since the LPGA came started back up and missed by missed the playoff by one this time around. But. It's great to see. It's really amazing to me that they're having the ladies Scottish open that all the players are able to get there safely and this has been able to happen and they're having the Riga Women's British open this this upcoming week world troon. which should be a great viewing experience for for people back in the states in morning coffee golf. If you WANNA watch some golf in Scotland watching these women play golf on these golf courses extremely extremely entertaining and I. I think somehow even more fun than watching the men play on links golf surely feels more more relatable. Yes. Ari. WHO's your pick? To win the, am we're going to do it now? They're all square with looks like twelve holes to play something like that. You'RE GONNA. We can't we you can say twice and we can headed in the right answer if you want if you prefer that all right I'm gonNA. Go with. I'M GONNA Go Valley Osborne. Okay. Before last year and any ogle trees stirring stirring related to surprise John can see at the end. The last five winners have all led after after the morning eighteen. So I'M GONNA go I'M GONNA go with history. With Osborne who as we've mentioned was maybe the third best player on us his team. What was so you said we could sell it talk about Stra. Dad. What was the I've missed the story line here admittedly. What what's our third of talk about their? All right. So it Is that he was the one who called out the rules infraction. So it started in the round of sixteen, he was the one who noticed. The local caddy sifting through the sand and immediately called it out and said that he was cheating and that should be lost a whole in Lhasa match. So he was is to pointed out there and then over these last couple days like he's, he's right in there. I I made a comment yesterday like he looks like he wants to snatch. Tyler's club from him and hit the shots himself. He was a he was accomplished player himself. He's played in the amateur before he's really intense. He's he's pumping his fist. He's given reads. He's he's all up in the club selection and captured screen-grabbed yesterday like he's maybe five feet away just glaring intently at his son just. Willing him to hit it. Within. Ten feet on every single phone like it's just he's living in with every single shot Palestra FAUCI hits. It's it's very intense in very aggressive sounds a little bit look at me if I if I'm saying so they just showed a clip of him opening up his caddy caddy's Vesta show the Augusta, the Masters logo which I'm assuming that was from yesterday after they. Had officially made once you once you make the finals year in the next year's masters. So yeah, it seems to. Spotlight or some serious. Yeah. There's some serious. Little. League. Dad Vibes. Yes. Going on with Todd Gee, just had a national championship level. Forgot sounds like it based on what you're saying. So all right laugh. Thank you for subbing in here on a Sunday really appreciate your time in perspective. We'll let you get to watch the rest of this match and I'm GonNa go play some golf some more golf at Bandon which I am currently located at. As you said for the sun I couldn't remember if I said that earlier not so. Yes signing off from Bandon Thank you, MR, Ladner, and We'll chat soon. Thanks Brad. Beater right. Club today. 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Rory's rollercoaster season; Steve Sands

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Rory's rollercoaster season; Steve Sands

"Hey gang it is me your host. Sean zach joined by dylan to chair and if you follow us in any capacity you might have watched our show last year. It was called the drop zone. It was a twenty minute weekly show it centered around interview but it also dived into what i think was important dialogue on the most important topics in the game name some things a little bit frivolous like jena sims i._m._d._b. Page it is a doozy. You need to go check that out anyway. We are turning the gulf dot com podcast into the drop zone podcast. We are back. We are taking you along with us. We'll keep the mood light will bring in interesting and important discussions to your podcast feed every single a week this week. We're going to wrap up the p._g._a. Tour season and we'll have an interview with n._b._c. and golf channel host steve sands but for now this is the drop zone first things first as a podcast of the people of the gophers. We want to discuss the places we go and the things we do in this game so dylan. Tell the people what we did on saturday. Can i say i'm fired up. Drop zone where here wearing my. I wore my ugliest shirt my entire wardrobe for the occasion today just like when phil wears all black when he needs an aggressive sunday wore my weirdest shirt for the weirdest takes the drop zone and you're being weird already <hes> <hes>. Where do we played golf together. We get to play golf every now and then but it'd been awhile we get teed up at stan witch these sandwich club we took the metro north of in the city joined a couple of our what do they call themselves. Rev side associates revenue side joe suma and brendan molar and put a a nice four-ball up. They're beautiful sunny august afternoon from the tips. No big deal seventy four hundred yards. This course is just a constant constant test every single shot. I mean plan from the tips. That's pretty far but every single shot is like this constant test from tee to green with the fairway win rough inbetween twenty nine holes. We're chasing the sunset in the evening. That's what you want sunset gulf. You're just hitting the ball. You can't even see it anymore. <hes> you inspired me though you shot seventy two from tests seventy two from the tips you know this guy you might you might have heard of. You've couple years ago played. Their sergio. Garcia played from the tips shot seventy six. Wow you're you're inspiring me. That's for sure my egos inflating already like two minutes into this podcast <hes> but saturday sean playing golf saturday allowed us to get back sunday in time to take in the fedex cup finale finale rory mcilroy took down the tour championship by four shots over zander's softly staredown brooks kept getting the final group got some revenge. What a year in rory. What a year what what do we make of this year rory mcilroy well. Let's let's go through the the highlights at first so he begins twenty nineteen. He says he's going focus more on the p._g._a. Tour he's gonna play more to events. He's not going to play a lot of euro tour events paul mcginley as like deriding him for this people are all upset upset at roy mcelroy for trying to play quote where you play for more money and more ranking points seems obvious but this is what happens when your european gulf gulf star starts this season t forty five t four then he says i'm not going to play the irish open which is really sad for all of his his fans in ireland and northern ireland again vialed for this online on twitter. Everyone's upset with rory then he finishes second in mexico then t six then then he goes on wins the players championship. He's never really contended there before. This felt like a seminal victory in rory's year goes to the matchplay loses to tiger bigger snubs the media that day people are all upset rory. You couldn't beat oilman tiger. You couldn't talk to the media about it but he heads to augusta as one of the favorites favorite's goes out and shoot seventy three in the first round is down by eight strokes sorry rory but you're not going to round up the grand slam terms thirty in may not eight t eight sixty four sixty one up in canada to win by seven shots so the automatic favourite coming to pebble. He's going to win the us open. We're gonna get the fifth major. He's five shots back going into sunday makes double bogey on the second hole goodbye to another major opportunity then favourite to win a month later at royal portrush all the hype all the pressure he hit his first shot out of balance left on the first hole makes an eight rallies. He's on friday has a chip to make the cut for the sixty four. Mrs gives this hartfield interview. He's almost crying on camera there with steve sands but he misses the cut a week later. This is the year of rory he goes up against brooks. Kepco on sunday in memphis gets absolutely waxed brooks. Wchs wins by six rory can't do it in an final round pairings with anybody of any kind of substance finally when we kind of stop expecting heading good things from rory he shows up. He drives like a madman. This week wins by four eastlake winds fifteen million dollars. We constantly constantly only get caught up in the minutia the details of right now it's happening right now with rory but there is a greater picture and that is that he had a phenomenal phenomenal year he did. I mean wow that was a roller coaster ride. Walk me through <hes>. I think the most perfect encapsulation at least for me in person was being over over at royal portrush and wandering over to that i he you know because the crowds were going crazy on thursday when rory headed to hit it that opening tee shot and i've never heard such a contrast of at impact the crowd going nuts and then it was like you let the air out of the balloon as this ball just sales left and sales left in all of a sudden you have these thousands and thousands of people go deadly silent and set awkward moment rory's going over and fumbling getting a provisional ball out of his golf bag and it was so dark said th the contrast between that and then such an emotional day the next wchs day playing maybe his best golf the entire year you know maybe besides the the rb c. or something but in that charge for for the cut line playing spectacular golf and falling just short felt like the theme of his year <hes> until yesterday and all things considered yes-or-no take on its own kind of intricate goofy thing the tour championship isn't exactly the players championship these are different things they'll be treated as one victory sorry in the career wins column but you're fired up about that part <hes> it's become kind of cliche to praise rory for being so open with the media and so open with his fans ends but i'm gonna do it again. He constantly shows us more than anybody else like he clues us in. We seem to actually know who he is. What takes about he tells us. He admits to us that he's doing meditation then he's working with the sports psychologists in that he doesn't want to play play a full european tour schedule because he wants to really focus on winning a major. That's all we really want is that fifth major from the guy and so he tries focusing on it and then he gets vilified. I'd like he's. He's been frustrated. He's been heartbroken. He's comeback in really really focused just trying to win golf tournaments which is all we really want. The guy doesn't really care about the fifteen million dollars. He just won his wants to do. It adds his legacy do it with the people he loves. He really like is is the definition of using your platform to show who you are and we really really don't see that for like ninety percent of the p._g._a. Tour it's funny. You mentioned this weekend. He's reading this book about you. Know staying dang device free basically being the moment being present <hes> and i thought his most interesting answer in his post press conference was about brooks kepco actually because he said ed let me read you a little rory. He said i think one of the biggest things i sometimes try to treat sundays as thursday or friday and they're not said i go into them with that that same mindset and maybe it's a little too relaxed so he said when he ran into brooks's sixty five in memphis. He said that changed him a little bit so he said look if i want to become the most dominant player in the world again. I need to be more like that i need to i guess that's the ultimate compliment can give brooks is today. I wanted to be a little bit more like him. <hes> that's pretty revealing another civil yeah no one. No one else says things like that. You think dustin johnson would say <hes>. I think i need to be more. Mike brooks. That's that's all he would say. He wouldn't go in depth to what that actually means. Yes guys don't say that in brooks will say about playing with rory. He'll say oh look. He's a joy to watch. He's fantastic whatever but but it feels more like that athlete you know mutual respect cliche not like i needed to really genuinely really needed to steal part of his game to overcome some. There's some jealousy listen. There's like minute jealousy from rory and can you blame him. I mean brooks has matched his career major total in the past three years. I think that there we've answered on tour confidential. Those are the two elite players in the game to brooks yeon rory and there is a little gap but there's a gap between justin thomas in those guys in dustin johnson those same justin rose so all the praise from me for rory and the urine rory absolute roller coaster and i think it all reminds us that sometimes we we we lose track of the forest when we're staring at the trees especially auroras world in rory's world the tour championship. It was the talk of the town on the p._g._a. Tour for actually most of the year especially the last couple of weeks everyone's focused on this goofy format and perhaps goofy isn't the right word but it's just tricky. It's a little bit different. You can essentially not play as good as someone else but still beat them and take more money than them. Money was the conversation justin. Thomas starts at ten under finishes at thirteen under patrick. Kelly started at eight under finished at one over rory. One by four paul casey nudged a five foot or closer to the whole for a multi-million dollar tap-in. Are we pleased. Were we happy with the result out. Yes i say that with some reservations because they're still is this weirdness. You have talked about it. Plenty even rory talked about it immediately after winning. He was keeping track of his own shadow leaderboard you know he said he wanted the lowest seventy two hole score his man he couldn't he iraq the the math. He said he thought he needed to make birdie on eighteen. He actually had the lowest seventy two seventy two hole score by three shots over the course of the week but there was some weirdness however look at the showdown at got us on sunday goddess rory. It got us brooks zander schlafly justin thomas you know for the hottest players. There's on tour in contention on sunday. That's better in my mind than anything else. We've seen from the tour championship since it started better than last year format wise better than last year last year you had weird justin rose like fists pumping two putts on eighteen to lose the tournament but win the fedex ex-cop. This was better than more satisfying than that well. I want a perhaps rhetorical question for you is how can we improve it because this is our one chance to really have this discussion because we will have another full season starting up in just a couple of weeks. I like the idea that there's a lot of money involved. I think that that's a win like the fedex bonus. Onus is worth sixty million dollars seventy million seventy seventy million. I think you could see guys getting a little bit uncomfortable out there. Yes yeah it's hard to draw a a direct line obviously because are missing fairways all over mrs. They're playing for more money than they ever have before. That's the absolute truth so that's going to get someone someone uncomfortable but i would like to present michael bamberger. 's playoff thesis. He calls it. The fedex series this. Everyone plays throughout the whole year for the top one hundred and twenty five spots that gets you into the playoffs which sounds pretty familiar right. You're still applying for the same pool tens of millions of dollars each event as is already. The case has its own purse so if you play well in those events your money from that the worst eight scores after each round cut people from each round. We're talking cumulative scoring so if you shoot seventy six in the first round of the first playoff event you're probably going home if you shoot sixty seven. You've done a lot to get yourself moving forward so the worst eight scores plus ties get cut after every round so basically you lose ten people per round so after the first round you got one hundred fifteen left after the second round hundred five left. Basically you got eighty five players going to chicago for the b._m._w. And basically have forty five players going to atlanta for the tour championship after which we only eliminate four people around but we're talking cumulative scoring this is how it would have played out all the way through cumulus all the way through okay justin thomas would have won with eight hundred and fourteen strokes money across the three playoff events. Tony fee now would have finished second only. That's that's perfect spot for tony eight hundred and sixteen strokes. You'd lost j._t. By too but the guy played really really solid gulf in new york in chicago august and in atlanta he deserves to be handsomely rewarded for it more so than he actually did well. What did we see one. Tony phoenix show yesterday exactly contrast time time for third adam scott roy macro eight hundred eighteenth strokes losing to j t four justice. Thomas played solid this past week so much better than rory sorry a week ago and they kind of played the same in new york. If we're going to treat this as a playoffs the entire thing as an event it should all count the same. I don't want shots in chicago theoretically worth fractions more than shots in atlanta because they helped build you a lead in atlanta lanta. That's what i want to avoid. I'm not saying i hate it but here's the thing in the n._b._a. You reset after every round right. You got a new series series new competition new opponent in m._l._b. You do the same in the n._f._l. The points reset after every game so inherently. I don't have an issue with the the points resetting as one of every around him sports while yet. I'm tennis the same thing would apply. We're not talking cumulative games and sets you know as you go through wimbledon. <hes> and i think you run the risk of someone running away with this thing but man. I didn't hear you say the name. Brooks kept go which is kind of interesting perks caffeine would have made eight hundred and thirty strokes suit of lost thomas by sixteen strokes which is what happened in the playoffs. <hes> this is what happened. During the playoffs off cities with doesn't strike me as quite as compelling your twelve round golf tournament all of a sudden this is like the old school but double it that is so much stroke play golf with somewhat stroke play golf and horse so much money for so much money it would be a daunting career defining thing for tony fee now to play twelve rounds outlast the greatest players in the world twenty. Fina has one career win. Anyways an it was a secondary of that open shoutout martin trainer also also one career win tony now holding off the best players in the world for twelve weeks is as good as a second win. Perhaps a third win in my eyes. That would have been incredible so i think you're talking about. You're elevating the fedex cup. Bamberger also wants to change the names of the events to fedex fedex tune but x. three yeah. I'm also down for because fedex paid all this money well yeah. It's also just perfect bamberger kind of subversion either way we can agree that that would be better than <hes> <hes> say two thousand eight when v._j. Singh won the fedex cup with one hundred twenty five thousand one hundred and one points one by five hundred and fifty one point margin so oh. This sounds like better than that. Where you're talking about is more of a marathon is a tour championship. Yeah think about it. What i was thinking is kind of the other end of the spectrum. Let's get did a little bit weird or the top eight. Guys go to some sort of match play format. We get head to head. You say it's a little too weird. I say maybe not weird enough <hes> so no. I don't think we're there quite yet but i hope that they just keep tinkering a little bit. We've made progress moving on moving on sean. I wanted to get you involved in a little game. I want to do a little overrated underrated properly rated with you. I just want to ask you if something is overrated underrated or properly rated rory mcelroy's player of the year campaign. It's properly rated. I think we all know it's not gonna happen. This happens every couple of years when someone wins a bunch a bunch of events but doesn't win. A major rory's season is properly rated because we all now. It's bricks kept. His title loose is tony fee. Now overrated underrated properly properly rated. Wow that's a great question. I've got tony female overrated while it's not that he doesn't have game. He's got a ton of games. It's actually because he has game but the guy as we just covered has only one the puerto rico open. He gave the sort of sad interview yesterday <hes> uh he just wanted to win this year and he couldn't get it but he made a ton of money. Get on your tony transfusions at the turn. I think you had your the first one this weekend. They are very underrated. They taste so good anything. That's a little fruity to just wipe away the hard stinging vodka make me a little bit looser made me start feeling like you know. The end is in sight. These double bogeys don't really matter how about harry diamond harry diamond. I'm at home my cat underrated i would say how often do we actually talk about harry diamond. The only time we talked about harry diamond in a significant way was dumping dumping on rory for picking his buddy to be on the bag and now here he is you know would my answer been different yesterday when it looked like rory was closer to a guy that struggled at the close on sunday maybe but today it's not yesterday anymore. Harry diamond shout out to our guy. How about shawn's ox golf game overrated underrated properly rated so underrated. It's crazy. I'm the most dangerous eleven handicapped in the world because i start every match when i'm getting strokes people play the first five holes in like one over so i've already popped a couple of times already made a couple of birdies and people people are like you're such a sand baker quickly. Take a long iron and send it to the right. Trees is like savvy reseves yourself but you take them with you. Yes is there already still rattled. I'm so close to being a seven handicap and i'm far from being fifteen anti cap some underrated as an eleven is it overrated underrated properly rated to make a hole in one o magnum shot up myself the new hole in one man <hes>. I think it's it's overrated if i'm being candid. It's overrated. Zander softly just made his first career hole in one of his life period did this weekend but at the end of the day you just hit a ball and win in the whole it this is not a have you ever hold out from the fairway. I have and that's just as much of a rush as doing it from teebox. It's a very very cool thing. It's just a one you get to write a one on the scorecard. It's just that it's gotten so built up to the point where we treat it as this. You know kind of career accomplishment like it's it's like winning a tournament or something but it's it's not at all that it's just a combination of a good shot in a bunch of luck and then you're supposed to buy a bunch of beer which you know sounds fun. <hes> overrated pitting hole in one finally for you. I have a brooks kepco. Where are we at. The end of. This season is products. Kapka properly rated finally yeah properly rated yeah because he he's he's. He's probably not going to win. As many times as roy mcelroy like full stop across the board. He's not going to to go there and steal the travelers championship which means he'll probably win it next next year. He just has begged these majors. He's a phenomenal competitor. He's probably going to remain from that couple years top five player in the world which is what he is. Does he have the staying power at number number one. Maybe which means that's kind of perfect worries at is jay monahan overrated underrated properly rated. Wow jay monahan overrated yup. What is jay monahan done for the p._g._a. Tour he's going to be the guy that that finalizes the t._v. Rights but he also needs to be the guy that finalizes sound pace of play and he has balked at all kinds of ideas that make the players have to think about things so at this point for me. This sounds like enter you. You've taken over this this take but i have no problem with it. The overrated stamp. He's going to have it all right enough of that. Ah first time segment we need to talk to steve sands longtime n._b._c. and gulf channel host and interviewer report on the grounds. He was a part of probably the best this interview last year play the best post interview this year the guys in the right spot of the right time he is and we're coming off the tour championship. This was his super bowl. You know for a while. This is steve sands with the whiteboard. We got into that. He got into his interviews rory with tiger all kinds of background stuff. I want to know where that whiteboard is. I that's like some type of golf memorabilia. You'll never see all right now have about his whiteboard though here's steve sands longtime host with evie sports and golf channel ever since the turn of the century really steve. Thanks for joining us. Oh my awful deductions century. Oh i'm old man. No it means you're tenured your tenure. You had a long long career and there's been no reason to get rid of you. You are you're sandy in the gulf. World needs that you guys are getting good. It's a it's a little early here on monday morning though radio talk golf because we had a big day yesterday rory mcilroy wins the tour championship happy and chip. How was it for you down there at east lake. That was good. It was <hes> was really good. You know what coming off a last year. I think that everybody he was like okay. It was an epic sunday with tiger winning for the time in his career. How in the world is anybody gonna match up to that so for all all the guys who were there for the high level of play <hes> rory mcilroy brooks captain zanesha flea justin thomas getting a worthy champion karori it was <hes>. I thought it was terrific. The new system <hes> worked out well. They've got a great champion in rory and now he's the only other guy that other than tiger who has to you skipped titles so it was a terrific dinner yeah. Everyone is going to talk about this week. They're going to talk about the new format how it's a little bit different some color goofy some color. Whatever whatever there are certain parts they like in other parts don't like but you are for longtime. You're the man with the whiteboard your man in front of the numbers adding up fedex cup points in the moment moment <hes> faster than anyone could do with t._v. Graphics so we needed your opinion on a subject what <hes> how is this week different better or worse for you in a slightly a different role the way it was different. <hes> it wasn't nearly as hectic <hes> i'm used to hearing everybody in my ear on governor ford and ten something out or whatever it is <hes> zuber's cool it was it was fun. It was certainly different. I missed it missed. The white borders collected well. It was a collective effort by a bunch of people <hes> you know i i realized that you're the guy who was up there and everybody sees your face your voice but you know between guys at the tour like jon on friedman and <hes> our guys in the truck louis and tom and <hes> sammy goldberg and all these different people who were so talented <hes> <hes> in putting together all of those kinds of things <hes> we missed. We missed doing it. <hes> it was fun to explain it. We understand that it was confusing thing and we try to make it as simple as possible for the audience to be able to sit and watch the golf and enjoy and then figure out who's gonna win. It is trying to win and what can happen in what scenarios areas here there <hes> so yeah. I'd be lying. If i told you i didn't miss doing it. It was fun and doing it but the system's better <hes> it's it's definitely definitely less confusing for people <hes> and that's the ultimate goal <hes> and it worked out great so yeah it was it was <hes> it was strange tonight. I watch took the clubhouse all those years. We had a little set for the fedex cup standings inside the clubhouse. I walked in there. <hes> when i got the town on wednesday kind of put my hand over my heart at a moment of silence and then walked out 'cause steve so tiger at the northern trust said who's worried about your your brand going forward. He was worried about your job with no whiteboard this year. Did you get a bunch of feedback from players from guys on site about the new format and about your role well. I don't think they care about my role. I think they cut a joke to me a little bit of the guys asking me. What are you gonna do next week man. What are you gonna do this this week. Your man what's going to happen that they were kinda half kidding half not asking for still had a job <hes> very nice <hes> funny about about it <hes> i was not watching the day at northern trust and worrying tiger. I got the podium when they were doing their news. Conferences <hes> <hes> but you know it's just cool to kind of reach out and kind of have supplied with it and <hes> you know when you're part of something like that and i guess the first time it gets taken away. <hes> people were gonna save you know nice things and and it's it's very cool that people did that but the it is certainly not about me. It's not about us we are. I've said this before the people we are people who are on t._v. People who you are and that's great and everybody's always said nice like up to you no one ever since you suck you always see the greatest bottle and all that kind of stuff but it's <hes> it's about the athletes it's about the golfers. It's about the tour <hes> it's about the gulf the competition you know we're just cloudiness circus and <hes>. I know that we're <music> very recognizable. I understand that but i'm not trying to be mr humble. I'm just telling the truth. It's it's about them not us <hes> and in this particular case because the fedex fedex cup was system delay it was and i was the guy who was the person on the network explaining hanging on golf channel and on n._b._c. over the weekend. I i understand all the attention <hes> last week in the last couple of eastern the fedex cup blouse but i am <hes> i'm not really happy that the competition was the most important thing and and they've got a great winter and congratulations to rory definitely now. Did you ever make a mistake with that whiteboard car. You mistake free. I mrs campbell at four three eight minutes frazier of back in sixth grade or that'd be amazed at the lack of errors that we made <hes> over the years. We never once on live t._v. <hes> <hes> during our shows did we ever make mathematical error <hes> as far as the reports not quite sure. I'm gonna happen based on my scholastic record lifespan college <hes> in fact. I was telling someone the other day. My mother passed away june <hes>. She was a schoolteacher pitcher <hes> for a long time. She's a high school teacher and the very first time <hes> we came on the air on n._b._c. over the weekend. Just think of golf said on thursday the first time we came on the air and david one of those fedex cup points update. Excuse me <hes> my my mother didn't text or call which i thought was kinda surprising. She was all jacked up about it and then the second time we did later. She didn't call then the third time we did it right. Afterwards i get a text for my mom and she's like i was too nervous watching to text you or call you after the first couple but now that i've settled down and have calmed down thank you <hes> my favorite beverage and you've also done it for a few types. I can honestly tell you that if you would have you've done as much homework back in highschool as you did going into this. You could have been somebody so mother. That's fun <hes> <hes> everybody has fun with it and it was it was cool. It was <hes> it was fun and doing fun to be a part of it <hes> but you know all things all things must count going last year had the tiger return and you were there for probably the best interview yet of twenty eighteen season reason to talk to tiger immediately after his tour championship win do you do you remember that scene as probably the greatest moment of your career or what else would compare that was <hes>. That was some kind of seen <hes> again. You know what's weird about how you guys feel about this when you're doing your thing but so i don't know. I don't know i can't speak anybody else. When i'm doing my job <hes> i don't think about the millions of people who are watching and that i i just think about the job or doing at the time <hes> the team were on and trying to produce and broadcast the best we can <music> <hes> for the audience who's watching <hes> just kind of you know checking out the best players in the world. I don't think about it at the time but i will say this this last year. When tiger won that crazy scene were all the people are coming down eighteen at least like we run run out like we always do on the eighteenth grade walkout and do the interview and you know it's it's tigers first win in five years tigers eightieth career with <hes>. There's a lot of things their comeback the whole thing. I get done with the interview. The place is going but nats nats and can't hear a thing in your ear. Your head said it's crazy and so you know it's a big deal but in atlanta's one of those weeks where you kind of get out of there and you get right to the airport and fly home. This is a hub airport. Get home on a sunday night. Which in our businesses kind of a big thing have to be able to do that because he spent so much time away so i get to the airport and people are staring the most. It's bizarre thing is so weird. At the time you're not thinking about how big it is and all that kind of stuff but then and afterwards you realize it's an n._f._l. Sunday and tiger woods just one of the first time in five years and we got a massive massive massive television rating. It was an enormous day in sports because it was tiger no offense anybody else tigers the only one who can do so when i got to the airport checked in security getting on the train and atlanta going to the gate sitting at the gate waiting to get on the plane i mean everyone is coming up and saying something and then that's when it kinda hits you that well. That's a big deal. I mean it's a it was it was a big deal. It was a lot of fun <hes> thankfully. The interview went well. He was more emotional. I think during that interview than i've ever ever seen him in any interview we've ever done together and we've done hundreds and hundreds of them <hes> so i was happy for him that he won knowing what he's gone gone to get to that point. It was very cool but yeah it was <hes> i was certainly one of the bigger spots <hes> personally i've ever been into career and steve. We know that you have definitely a good relationship with tiger like you said from hundreds of interviews over the years. How did that start art because you know we know with tiger. He's a pretty protective guy. It takes a little while to for him to get comfortable around you out. Imagine what was that process like yeah. You know it's it's interesting people all the time. <hes> look the relationship that person on t._v. Sports caster has is with an athlete is really based on one thing it's trust and i think that the athlete in this case tiger <hes> <hes> greatest player of his generation of very protective guy <hes> if he doesn't believe in the person who he's dealing with then then it's never going to get any farther than just something that's very superficial and i remember years ago <hes> playing winging charlotte. He always used to play first ti- time pro-am on a wednesday and i was in charlotte. I don't know two thousand three four five somewhere back then and he was in that crazy six thirty a._m. Time whatever that was there was nobody there and i thought you know what i think. It's really important to get out there. You know it's they're working. We should be working. You know they're the athletes. They're the show so so get after it so i get out there on the first team. We're walking. He kind of looks over here. What are you doing here and i said you you know if you're working organ and then you continue that throughout the weeks the months here's <hes> obviously in his heyday the day he was playing great almost on the leader board after every round not just every week and you're interviewing interviewing every day because he's always on a leader board and he's tiger woods and you know you build that relationship. You walk around with them. You talk about things things off camera that you know you would never obviously mentioned on t._v. But just you know family stuff and kids and life and sports and you know this stupid stuff and you you allow him <hes> to kind of get to know you and then you trying to see goes and does that <hes> trust allow you to then ask the tough questions to tiger when the situation calls for it. I mean obviously it's golf. They're going to be positive questions far more than the negative but does that trust building element allow for that when you need to. I think you could say that about any athlete. <hes> i am a believer that i don't know how you feel about this but i am a believer that we ask questions of athletes. We wanna get to know athletes. We want <hes> to get closer to athletes as fans and the way to do that is to get to know them through through a lens or through a website or if it were newspaper radio whatever the media is if you ask athletes questions let them answer. Let's hear it. Let's go to bed. You know if you don't like the answer. You don't like their opinion. Don't ask the question <hes> and i think that when an athlete trust you in this case case tigers are asking about i think for sure you have the ability to ask him questions. <hes> that or a little bit deeper than you would if the athlete doesn't trust because i think the athlete who trust the person who's asking questions is way more willing to answer them in an honest fashion so yeah. There's no question that if you take the time to get to know the athletes <hes> whether it's tiger rory anybody else they will be better with you on camera <hes> off camera whatever it is <hes> i think the the the information you're going to get from them. The honesty you're going to get through them is going to be greatly enhanced if the athlete trust the person asking the question. There's there's no debate on that. One of the one of the aspects of your our relationship with tiger is how he refers to you. It's sandy. Everybody knows sandy. I wanna know is sandy spell at the y. Or an i e <hes> you'd have to have him. <hes> my guess is it's an i. <hes> is my guest. The funny thing about that is people now. How in the last couple of years anywhere i am. It's sandy sandy people yelling fans e that guy basically live. They say to my wife mrs sansui eh say to my kid little sandy it. It's it's it's all based on and again. It's all based on one thing. Tiger tiger rules the sports world not just the gulf world so when he says something it catches on for that to catch on that has nothing often do with me. That's him and it's just a crazy crazy thing that he has the ability to kinda change the way people speak look. I'm fifty years old. When i played high school basketball. We wore shorts like it was underwear. You know michael jordan came along and now my kids have played high school basketball or wear shorts down to their knees shaved head came in to play when in jordan shaved his head and it became such a cool look. Well tiger is like an only certain athletes. You're like that. I'm not saying everybody who's dressing tiger talking tiger it but if someone else called me that nickname it wouldn't nearly catch on like it does with him and i'm telling you fellas everywhere i go people. People are yelling at me. It makes me laugh. I think it's i think it's dead. Do you know when he first called you that like. Did you react in any way dog. People people who call me that forever he <hes> he started calling me that years ago <hes> but you gotta remember you know like he he kind of went in a way. They're you know with his injuries and all the things that have happened to him. He really didn't play a lot from twenty thirteen twenty seventeen <hes> after he had that great year twenty thirteen he didn't really play a ton so in this comeback <hes> when he started calling me me that after every interview <hes> i think that's what it caught on but you know he's been i mean everybody calls people whatever their name removed by a y. Or a year mikey or stevie or you know johnny that kind of stuff. I do it all the time people all the time it just it or not. Famous tiger was so when taika something like that. It tends to catch up yeah well one. One other thing that you used to have was a washington d. d._c. Tour event and your guy and i look around the tour schedule and you kind of you see events. I go to new york and boston and l. a. Every year and and washington d._c. Has been pulled out of the tour rota so to say does that make you does that. Make you feel pretty sad. I imagine you kind of enjoyed those times where you could get close to home. It's tragic to me. I drives me crazy <hes> as a as a washingtonian that we have of the n._f._l. The n._b._a. n._h._l. Major league baseball we have a tennis event and we don't have a p._g._a. Tour event in the nation's capital. I think that's a joke <hes>. There's there's certainly a great golf courses there. <hes> i understand sponsors and economics dictate how things work but for the p._g._a. Tour for the game aim at the highest level to not be in the nation's capital to me is in the area and not in the city right in the nation's capital area is just awful to me and i think that it's a void on the schedule <hes> it's avoid on the calendar. It's void a major market. <hes> and i'm biased. I readily do we admit that but i i just think that being in d._c. Is safe on washington's a major city and they have all the sports except golf off and i think that the p._g._a. Tour belongs in the nation's capital and i think that the tournament is always been supported well in the nation's capital on and they certainly have to venues that do it so it bummed me out when that happened. I understand why it happened. <hes> and i understand how it all works but let's try to figure it out and get golf at the highest level of play in what i consider the greatest city in the world but by it but i'm biased by you couldn't you couldn't tell steve sean mentioned before you got the probably best interview of twenty eighteen with tiger at the tour championship but we also think you might have gotten the best interview of twenty nineteen with rory at portrush you know he missed the cut but his charged for the cut line. It was electric mean that whole day was pretty special in portrush. What what do you remember from that and does that stick out to. You like it does to us. Remember the most about that day was here is one one of the top two or three players <hes> in the world <hes> plane a tournament that he pretty much. No longer has a chance chance to win. Yet is grinding like you can't believe to make the cut now. If you make the cut you do have a chance to win over the weekend obviously but he wasn't playing great <hes> and he obviously had a very tough start on thursday the crowd over there the reason the open is my favorite favored than the year is because of the atmosphere the crowd over there just different. It's sounds different. It feels different. It looks different. <hes> <hes> everything about it and those folks love roy maccarone they love darren clarke and they loved graeme mcdowell but man were they rooting for rory mcilroy to make that cut that place was going crazy and rory was coming down the stretch so emotional just trying to make it to the weekend. This is one of four major championships. He's won a claire jug. He's got all the money in the world and he's trying to make a cut for the country because the country was on his back and that probably was the reason he got up such a bad start on thursday so to me the interview with him afterwards him being so emotional <hes>. I've been doing this twenty nine years. I've never cried. I'm a crier. I cried everything. <hes> and i've never cried on live t._v. And rory got me and i almost was gonna gonna cry on national television. I don't care to do it or not do it. I just saying i've never done it and he was so emotional <hes> so genuine january so true to himself <hes> just so rory mcilroy and <hes> it's. It's one of the reasons that i truly love the guy <hes> and i just think he's a fabulous person along with being a fabulous golfer. Have you talked to rory about that interview since then. Did you guys ever. We'll have a conversation about it afterwards yeah we did. We talked a little bit about it. <hes> you know it's it's <hes> yeah. It's conversation station. We keep a amongst ourselves. It's just a you know he's. He's just a wonderful kid. He really is as parents are great. Jerry rose his wife. Eric is great. <hes> he has incredible perspective on not only career but life <hes> it's a rare athlete who has that type of balance and <hes> it was a it was a tough day for him <hes> but he also understands that sports you know sports is up and down man. It's <hes> he certainly certainly felt the ups and downs over the years. Everybody has <hes> fans athletes. Whoever's involved <hes> but yeah. We talked about it. It was <hes> that was a tough day. Man i was it was a it was an emotional tough day. It was emotionally draining day <hes> for him and knowing him the way i know i felt terrible for man he he wanted it so badly. That much was was definitely imported through the t._v. Screen now before we let you go a couple lighthearted topics along career covering gulf but recently you've been on n._b._c.'s winter olympics coverage and speed skating has been in your sport because i don't know why please tell the people who have no idea is that a difficult job and easy job compared to gulf. How the hell it's speed skating. This kid is great man. If you need to know anything about your katharina lucretia you're talking right got <hes> it's it's <hes> it's it's a crazy cool sport. <hes> you wouldn't wanna watch it every week <hes> but doing it every four years amazing <hes> the olympics is amazing amazing. It's a <hes> you know to once in a lifetime opportunity for the great majority of olympia to get to that point <hes> you know we put it on as a television show so you know all about the grape stars <hes> who have been in the olympics multiple times but the great majority of olympians are there once and it's there like lifelong goal. Let's shipment to reach that that point of that moment <hes> speedskating's amazing the energies great. It's always a sold out crowd. Indoors really allowed <hes> the speed and athleticism in speed skating is staggering in person when you're there it is incredible. How athletic <hes> the men and women are who take part in speed skating and it's a lot of fun man. It's <hes> it's really cool to be like. I did football basketball baseball hockey tennis. I've done all the sports <hes> been very lucky over my career <hes> to be a part of the olympics i- n._b._c.'s is a dream come true. It's an amazing team of people on and off the air. Put that type of production together and doing different sport is always great. <hes> <hes> pushes you. You got a lot of homework. <hes> you gotta make sure you understand names and the rules of the game and you're not around it. It's nice not nearly <hes> as comfortable as you are going to a golf tournament. You know after doing all these years but it's it's you know someone wants told me that it's impossible all to grow unless you stretch yourself so take yourself out of your comfort zone. Go do a different sport like that and you kinda find find out a little bit about yourself and <hes> it's a lot of fun being around the men and women <hes> the u._s. speed skating and all of the world <hes> when we go to the olympics. It's it's an honor to be a part of it. It's a lot of fun so you'll be headed to japan them. I will be going to tokyo flying i think i think i'm doing golf. I'd be lying if i told you that i would. I love to do a different sport <hes> but because we golf and obviously it's better to do the sport you cover as far as the network is concerned because you're putting on a show so <hes> and you want the audience to familiar and comfortable with what they're seeing watching <hes> and listening to but <hes> pretty sure. I'm going to be in tokyo and it'd be a lot a lot of fun. Olympics is an amazing amazing time all right well then before you leave. You could make a ploy to your bosses right now. What's far. Would you cover in japan. I'd love to do swimming man. I just the ended. I i've gone to a couple of we're in sixteen after golf go to different events different things and boxing and badminton volleyball and water polo and track and field and all these different things. Let me tell you man. I went the night that la- decky he and phelps each one goal and the place was coming unglued. It was like being cameron indoor fog allen there. Are you know being a night game at l._s._u. On a saturday it was so loud and so the energy was so i <hes> i think a lot of fun wanted to be a part of the swimming in summer games but i <hes> coming to fall a little bit short of that goal. That's all right dog. I'm happy to be a part of anything. They want want whatever they choose. You made you made a good run out. We'll see if we can talk to the n._b._c. Folks and get you close to thanks steve. Thanks for calling in and we'll see a see out. They're on tour sometime big. Thanks steve sands for joining us. Hopefully the guy gets a little bit of a break before he has run out there on tour again dylan before we go. He'd like to say something. I would like to say something because as great as the tour championship the fedex cup payout was this weekend the biggest story in sports was about andrew luck retiring at age twenty nine and the guys is getting paid twenty five million dollars essentially to do nothing in by the indianapolis colts thing about here's rory mcilroy thirty years old having a huge mega payday making a similar amount of money. Here's was andrew luck and suddenly all these tributes pouring in about you know luxe career and i feel like we really got a chance to step back and appreciate the guy for what he's done. Let's thing about golf in the way we just grind in and out all season long. We get a ton of rory mcilroy over the course of the season and he's not going anywhere for a long time. You don't see guys just walk away from the game of golf the way you do. You don't really even see much of an off season in the golf world so i do think we should you know take these moments like right now. We're coming into our what two three week off season to say all right. We we had a good run. We should appreciate the greatness of rory of kept gaza while we're here you know money or not even though royal be around for a while we we should take this chance. We're in it right now. Rory is a great player right now in <hes> we'll miss it when it's gone yeah anytime that you end up comparing things like like team sports to golf a lot of times. There are things that we lack we really want the kind of team camaraderie or like the finality of a win or a loss not justice listed t four or t five gulf actually really hits on keeping people involved forever. I mean if roy macro wants to play the champion's tour which is entitled to do and make a lot more money as a senior. We're seeing for the next four decades. That's the bottom line and that's a good thing fred. Couples was in contention in his hometown event and yesterday in seattle so you know this is a game for a lifetime. It is a question with all this fedex cup money. If we'll see that change you know brooks kept good talks talks about moving to an island never hearing from again so we'll see if there will be a little bit more than just anthony kim in in terms of stars disappearing on the tour but for now i do want everyone to <hes> savor this time away from the p._g._a. Tour because it'll be back before we know it will be just a matter of weeks. That's it for the drop zone today. Thanks to steve sands. Thanks on the chair. I'm your host sean sock.

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A Great Debate: Shoot vs Make

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A Great Debate: Shoot vs Make

"I would look at Boston. We'll Tom and look at this stuff that they pose to some of. It's like such quiet and stuff like that. That is what we need to get people until turns goal. Nice to be your boys. Congratulations on all that. You're doing as mediocre as it is at the LACI this year. Very much thinking about getting so. I don't get that people together. Thank you brag dump butter knife my wed.. The newer younger Hitler Barstool Sports Tigers had the three factor one fusion. We welcome in from Barstool sports rigs and Trent guys welcome to the show sports waste management. Week it has concluded included. We're back from Miami lurches back from San Francisco so there's a lot happening here with four playboys We were just talking about a little bit of Tony. Female beforehand magical agile get all into. That are are one of our tech guys. Kobe who've even mentioned many times in the show legitimately turned into Tony female tracker on Sunday which ended in complete and total disaster? The Waste Management did. It's typical thing where it goes into playoff leading right up into the Super Bowl. There's lots of get to Lurch I know you you got in really. You're in San Francisco. You played a couple of golf courses. One that we've played before one's going to be very important calmness may with the PGA championship chip. What time did you get in last night? Got In around two forty five am okay. Yeah flight was delayed so just loving traveling across the world these days race. 'cause everything seems to just not work out I think the plane was delayed just to do to wind. which sounds outrageous Does that sound outrageous wins way more dangerous interest in like rain. Yeah I guess just like you're an airplane. Just get up there and start. Flying wind is Seri- It was a beautifully like sunny. Honey Gorgeous Day gusting. So the the guys we played with fantastic we on Sunday. Just yesterday. We played with a guy named Chasing Eric who we're both part of the PGA and one's in one's in marketing. They were giving us the whole rundown the course which we'll get into But they were saying well we get into that well potentially essentially if you want to discuss it Frankie. He's up to you to get into true because you guys all played this or something you know. anyways he was saying that that he's never really seen gusts up to like forty five before and that's what we were playing in the close in Boston. I got killed but it was a gorgeous sunny day. In the fact that we couldn't take off for another couple hours and every hour and this is in the right way but almost seems to multiply because every time you're like oh we're supposed to fly off at four at seven pm so then we get in. You know a little after midnight but then every time it goes to five. It seems like it's multiple devil's advocate here. You think they're doing that for a reason for your safety totally I mean it's it's what's the alternative right like. Would you rather just get their water. This time yeah like in this climate times Nissan extinct so flying from California. I mean people are wearing the bass to from a corner virus so then you're sketched out about that. That's terrible and then so the window delay happened whole row necks wearing masks. Everybody's wearing mammals ran off the Flights tariff is worried about the virus. Thing a little bit very much so always a little. That's very worried about. It is your dad. I'm sure he's ready. No he hasn't said a word about it that he's a big Virus Guy He's a big everything else sky. I think it depends on what your I have a kid and my crew. My my buddy Steve Justice the biggest dark web and like skeptic and thinks the the world is GonNa end and that everyone's lying to us in the government's ally and all this stuff and he sends these links of like Corona virus. And how it's spreading where it is he's tracking people. One guy was in Minnesota. Another guy was in Chicago and St. GotTa start like freaking out. Stop sending me this stuff. My coworker like that. Not You guys. Obviously real coworker One the three fuck something that freaked me out so pissed me off right out of the gate. I went in to go get a ginger Ale because I had a sore throat but then also backing gummy worms because the number one drink to drink on the airplane. Ginger Ale I the the the bears were five dollars so I gave the guy a five dollar bill. Bill when you hand somebody a five dollar bill this out right from the bat like I get one side of the bill you get the other but our hands should never touch. He touched my fingers and that freaked picked me out. I was like viruses in the air touched by finger cash. Don't use cash. Yeah we remove why are using cash at least touch everything like something like you know what when you go into like in a mall. Sometimes you're just going up the escalator and your hands on thing and you're looking at like how the fuck my hand up here. I had this morning. I took it here avenue work I found myself. I grabbed the door handle I was like what am I doing. Well how did I get here and this might be how I did it on the subway where I'll You gotta hold onto something. Seato go flying across the fucking car. But then I'll always make sure I use just that hand and try to hold just the same spot. Yes for as long as possible when I you take the subway all the time the most amazing people to me were the ones who refuse to grab on anything and they would just surf. Yeah cores are so strong that they ride it. They know they know every turn. They're like well. I'm just GONNA leave this way. And it's one of the more magnificent do it if it's not crowded because you actually can like spread out and get a solid base and you're fine when it's crowded you you're kind of like standing up straight with no leg power and you. I remember. It was a takeoff and I remember when I first moved here. I was just getting used to the subway and it was so packed and I found myself in no-man's-land where I couldn't eat anything and I'm just in the middle of all these people and every turn I was bowling. People over guys tapped his shoulder and said hang on here. Yes Yep how'd did you remember that one of your tweets. It was a great. Yeah it was the tweet. I was like one of my first months in New York City and I was in no man's land. I was like the par in the subway. Where you you cannot grab onto anything in a guy very nice man clearly looked at me and said you can grab on right here and I did? I grabbed onto. Can I like an angel on it was and I grabbed onto his shoulder of Brooklyn. It was I tell you what it really people say. This city's mean and whatever and maybe the guy took my pocket. That's yeah I had to get a new wall after other than that. I experienced though are so impressive because because like if you type in Barstool Trent subway on twitter these tweets are so funny. Then you are funny twitter guys. Thank you this homeless guy. My subway stop plays the same song Dr Every day. It makes me feel like I'm in Westworld. Oh yeah that is because in the beginning of Westworld the thing would always come out of the piano and I would get on the subway. This guy would play the same song if you've ever watched that show. It starts the same way every time I was like boy. Seven fifty doesn't seventeen. What are people who don't hold onto anything on the subway trying to prove? Yeah Oh that was a good on the titanic with you. Don't have to go through this. Maybe I don't understand bikes on the subway wit all ride that fucking thing so I don't know how we got replaced but I feel so good that you remind me of that guy who was like grab onto my shoulder because he was so nice. Yeah God was like this we I oh boy in New York. I'm going to send him a little angel and the subway must of just look as overwhelmed as human being can look so much someone went out of their way. uh-huh contact to make contact with you on the subway. Nobody does a gentleman asked me if this subway line was going to Brooklyn I guess we both got on. I was very wrong there That was that was like my first week. I think I would just people would ask me questions about like. Is this the right subway and I would just say yes because I was nervous to like like interact with people and the worst part of that on the same car as we started to go uptown as opposed to downtown downtown. I'm just trying to avoid eye contact with them like all right. Just don't look at them. Just don't look at him and I just got off the next stop so I didn't not to make eye contact with them anymore. Just picturing you leave one door and then go into the next car but you can still see each other itching. My we're trying to cover my eyes. My my duty looks through the window of the car staring. Thank the leading me. Do my first subway line. Just pulling your sweatshirt Iowa t-shirt underneath I what can I do. I think parents with the subway were I mean they were tough. I didn't know what the Hell is doing that happens. You can't blame someone for that but what you can't blame for them is just giving you the. Oh Yeah No. This is going on right to Brooklyn boy headed towards the Harlem. It's like Damn Damn that's funny stuff is California. You're in California. Yeah so the guys played it. That is just one of the more magnificent golf courses you could ever play Shout up AH FOR RIGS hooking it up met the pro. Their this Guy Chris who just fantastic he kinda tortoise around California if you will My Buddy Greg and I pretty much lost Chris us every way that you can play it. played positive verse. Chris Zach losses ago told me I was fucked in the first one and he's hysterical. He's hysterical also so I guess I guess you guys had a bunch of drinks before but I don't know what happened to you on the first hole you're like one hundred and forty yards out in the one point left and he told you yes and he told you ah anything you can do to just advance to. The front of the green would be amazing from where you're at and you just look back to the rigs and I guess Joe. That is the single worst piece of golf vice. I've ever heard and continue to play a nine on the first hole or something so I took an ax on the first hole. Played it That's just how I played the. How hard is number three? That's impossible buffalo. It's the hardest one. I've never looked at actually made a bogey their first day which I was really happy with insane and and then I think I took a six or something like that the next day. That's par three. It's like two fifty right. Yeah and like if you miss left to right. You're pretty much dead rights better than left but the whole thing is impossible possible. Yeah anybody who doesn't know. Positive was alister Mackenzie Saint Guy who built Augusta and Cypress Point so he the same Greens that you have an Augusta you pretty much have the same concept built by the the same person at Pasta Timbo. It's also tita green with the bunkering and all that insanely intimidating. He's got kind of sprawling like finger tight bunkers. Is that just kind of creep. All over the course so they're very visually intimidating. And then once you get through all that and you get on the Greens you have the sixteenth hole where we did the reverse which is like a five Tier Green. I think they call let thing is treacherous. I mean I had a Putt for Birdie on that whole the two are made a bogus story about tiger on that whole that they always tallahassee like four or five putted in like lost a match or something. That's GonNa talk about Monroe. Those details but positive Bo is very difficult. And I guess there's There's a unreal collegiate tournament that's hosted there by San Jose state I think which the golf channel covers T- that out because the back nine a positive Empa- we played Fighter we played Kinda like midday but then Saturday afternoon we played again at the golden hour and it was like one of the most amazing most gorgeous golf experiences that I could potentially have the back. Nine is so so pretty that once you go ten eleven year at the top of the hill. Twelve looks back down. And when you're coming down twelve you can actually see the sixteenth green behind the twelfth green and the way the sun was hitting it. I was just like I do this blinking thing or if I see something super pretty I try to blink a bunch to create a mental image. That's in my head. A camera like Jackson. Jim and Pam Right. Yeah they do little moment at the wedding really. Yeah Oh that's right I do that. So that's what we're doing. Yeah you've always done mental. Take a mental picture. Boom it's important. Is that where you're going back to when your brain rea- Buca just did it. Nothing it does something for me link does nothing right. It's not doing much logically thinking. You should not blink stare at it longer. Correct you're basically. You're you're doing less of the moment they want fair link last one of those things that you just do the opposite of the funnel in the middle of. Oh Yeah. We're just looking fairly. Yeah it's like a half pipe where The Sun glisten left left us. Yeah when you catch a boy. That's a tough place to leave you on the golf course because we're not close to witness playing lights out the obvious. Having time his life he's positive lists so sick and then and all of a sudden he's like wait a minute like am I going to make this flight. And then someone's like no to go all the way San Francisco. There's no chance. And he's like I got to leave right now and barely made a slight wait so we almost had but then we on like the it was to ten and we are still on the sixteenth at four o'clock flight and then I just got an email l. saying that the plane is ninety minutes too late so actually that was that was working out in. My I can emerge at the EPA had to I have a three would Cover sweet with the globe does incredible palm tree. Whatever those incredible the places awesome It was just an awesome experience when we played it we had done spyglass that morning we start or drinking pink. Whitney's at like the third hole. Yeah and then we. After we finished we drove up to positive bio played that so by the time we teed off a positive positive. I mean we were cooked. Meat had a long day. We had a great match. I think we we the tide or me and Trent one like one up and then we got killed at positive. Whitney was playing in great. We are all playing terrible. I think really the worst headache in my life playing golf course but that's one thing I do remember but it was. It was still great but I remember that vividly unlike eleven. I was like I think I'm having a seizure. I think I'm some sort of something's going on in my brain. Well it gives you know breaks. I mean one two and three or some of the more challenging golf holes that you can play because because one and two were just so demanding off the tee that if you're in the wrong spot you're pretty much you can't make par and then three if you make par might as well be a hole in one. I mean I mean for real. That whole is so damn hard. That's incredible I guess. One member has a hole in one on every par three golf course which is amazing. An increase was telling me that so the eighteenth is a par three as well. He was saying that every pro has been under par going into the eighteenth and then not being able to post the score because they just can act on the eighteenth which is just gotta be Ba. Ruutel freely yeah. We played it in the dark frank to Pars. Remember that really does part part of the video. Yeah that happens. I was like no way. It's pitch dark out here is of course. The only played this bleak pitch dark. What does that put? I'm going to say pitch black. And now I've heard the same mistake. Two Times this week given deja Vu says as we pitch dark I meant to say pitch-black remember thinking to call them out and be like you just wrong. They're psychology. That wasn't going to miss on that twice. I appreciate it. Valentine's tip number one not not all rose. 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Put my bag down like walked into like where the hell is this thing for a couple of minutes and then my ball was right near my bag and I just never saw it so if you were in there really really hard to get out love. Also that courses amazing so they've shrunk pretty much each fairway on average between twenty five and thirty yards so the fairways are tightly. HIGHTLIGHT bethpage everywhere. Tight is going to play so hard and then is it like on the water. So yes the last couple of holes are there's Lake late Mer said that's right there so when you make the turn thirteen and then go fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen fourteen through seventeen or on the lake and and then eighteen comes back to the club houses on just like a little pond off to the left. I'm not sure what that's bridge from there. What what the Golden Gate now? That question but now now Alcatraz no kids have never been to San Francisco. I just think of the bridge. Yeah so they blended the bridge into logo. But you can't see the bringing What about the trees that threes take every like Where we say about the trees last time how like every ball that goes in there like oss typically quickly our trees around here they get through to these straight down straight down every time the ball goes straight down and it's like the trees might as well be a wall? They're also saying that in the morning sometimes like people hit balls up in the tree and they'll just never come down so there's because they're so thick Yup oh when they get a bunch of women they fall like Acorns so the images folded about so. There's a ton of in audibles leftover balls But fourteen through eighteen will be a tremendous stretch of golf to watch on TV also Quick note the the ops guy said that bell read was a very small area into to host the chiefs. This is fifty acres less so the OPS team is getting crazy creative to figure it all out you know walking areas where people can go etc.. Due to bell rang they were on. Top of the goal is going to be so oh loud so the front nine is on the inside the back nine kind of wraps around the outside and there's a little par-three called the Fleming nine. I think that it's called. We're big fans of short courses. This is on this year podcast. Oh yeah you gotta be So anyways they'll have some room to work with but will be tight and it'll be loud. It'll be an awesome venue. Because sixteen driveable par four seventeen great par-three and then eighteen is going to be aboard Ruutel part for so it's going to be a good challenge. I guess it plays a par. Seventy seventy two. Usually they're gonNA play it or are seventy guy was. I can't make it harder. You just take strokes like that's one way to think about Jesus. Is it public. It's public gets over. Like ninety thousand rounds a year like crazy Popol my so to think of it and they only have ten to fourteen days. Where the courses shutdown pre event? So so if you think about you know the weekend hack that uses a wedge like shovel. Josh taught us having the room yes they got to figure out growth growth and make sure it's all pristine imperfect. Yeah it's a hell of a project just like walking with this guy chase in Eric Up. The course like just hearing him describe it like what they go through to put these events together and what they're thinking about on a daily basis it is. They've been there for like a couple of years. I don't think other couple years in advance and start getting Rodney gear up and all that because as I think about all the how many different trucks you see come in going out the carts how much like the ropes all the infrastructure that building we we say it every time like they build. Oh City yes and then for one week and then they just take it down afterwards. But that building of that city takes like legitimately years. And so these ops ops guys came in imagine what that like. That's one of the things I'm worst at that time and get like anxiety thinking about. How do you have an event that is and you're talking about how small it's going to be? They've gotta be like. Where are we gonNA put all these people? It's fifty acres lesson Belle Reeve. That's got to be like. I mean these guys. I'd be so scared. Yeah the main entrance is literally going to split the basically. Let's go seventeenth. Green comes up on the left hand side and then you cross the street and. At and T.. Boxes Right there but the main entrance will literally come right between those two things so people are gonNA come. I'm interested quietly science But once you're inside it's going to be ethically loud because everything's in such close proximity and I think it's going to be an awesome awesome. Venue Bellary where everyone's like. I can't believe how loud and how energetic and crazy the fans are and seem because Everything so tight. And it's like that at like Marian to there's infiltrates in the city or in the town so there's no room I mean it's just the golf course and then it's like a neighborhood or whatever So when you don't have and everybody's just like almost claustrophobic packed in it's going to be intense. He Got Tiger at bell re when he was fucking making a charge that was that was crazy. Walked over with that bridge afterwards that that camera pans with him and you see people. It wasn't a sea of people. Jesus Christ walking across I. I have to say that you You get to work on your instagram story. Slo Mo's Yup just horrible. The worst execution I've ever right so that was pretty much at the end. The trip I was dead and I should have reviewed it before I put it on. I did but I was just I was tired. So you know we're all over the place like one one of them is like a legit story at one of them. You started where the guy made contact. It started on that and it was a two second store. Well that's because it doesn't. I like the way instagram. Loads figuring this out. Well very obvious. Yeah I know but nobody we're Earth Williams video second one and then does yeah. No I get it but it just didn't load the first one. I was like shit and I was trying to refresh because I actually on my thought this normal. I'm always gonNA come up at that point. There was only like a hundred people that had seen it now. But you're dumb. Phase was one of them. Actually my last lurches the worst. Yeah so it was a two second finish. Yes I saw that. What a horrible story to put I one thing you need to comprehend is on a slow flomo? Yup If you once you take the slow right the very beginning of it it goes normal speed and then it stops and what you have to do. I don't like why are you looking at me. You should story wants to continue to suck otherwise so you have to do is edit down to right before because nobody wants to just watch tim. Weigel for fifteen or thirty in slow motion. You want to watch the actual off Smith so you have to edit that so that it starts right when he pulls the club back right. No I should've it's it's the reason to help at that point. I was just I. Was You know I was down dead entire tired at that point. Then what's the point putting it up. I thought they were good and then I reviewed them. I was like Oh man these are bad and then I felt bad. What about especially for my boy chase nicest guy in the world that we played with my video of his swing was no joker Slo mo that like stopped too soon as he is to his belt buckle? There was one where I had to watch the whole time for fifteen seconds. It's like he's standing over the ball in slow motion. You can see like kind of like his hips moving like an answer really slowly and then he finally pulls it back he gets like right to the top and then it ends didn't put the rest of it so then the next one checked out long before then. The next one's cuts just happen to another guy. Doing the exact same thing like standing over the ball and then it goes from normal speed too slow motion. Yeah I did them dirty inches doesn't it's I mean it's no shocker. Anyone here that lurches integrate social media. But I'll tell you what the content up until that point I thought was pretty good. Yeah twitter video. Sorry no one of the I just scrolling through twitter. You your Hashtag. That game is unparalleled. Tennis was that for. I don't know something about the Australian Open. Oh Yeah it's just like you don't have to do Hashtag tennis. I hushed Hashtag Australian Open that makes sense because it's like gets into the into the whatever donald team. I'm just trying to find another one on your house. Frustration something about gymnastics schedule Shang. I can't wait to be a patriot. Hashtag masters Yes. That's a good one. How should I can't wait to be a patron is all time because you can't? It's one of the worst time you ever call the Patriots by Nets like why is that. That's Hashtag that means. You're watching the masters. I stay up hatred literally the only person in twitter history no which is impressive. No you're not a lot of a lot of boats. This is when I posted some picture of laying on the ground. I think Frankie took it stretching trillion. I wrote Hashtag bad body. Golf bad got some good luck. That's a good Hashtag. I mean that you don't hold a seminar in add another time another juncture. Yep We're not going to do it here. It's you did a great job great without without great weekend piss off your followers boy. Did you do a great job. I only know that type of stuff is coming. What's that I think? If you follow me some part of you know Oh that might county is part of Your charm. Maybe maybe what you bring to the table is that you bring a bad social media game to the table. That's like kind of sometimes really good. It's a spectrum. Never good I don't know some of that stuff was good. Even to the point. Chris's dad was like lurches. Pretty funny but it's funny that how bad you are at the Ogden dig into it's winter laughing at you. I'm not saying I'm not saying I think you definitely. I think it's a nice little wrinkle honestly honestly like us three are like pretty well because we are working at like for years. Now you were just like you're you're new to this. You got a few followers and then it's like let's just see what this is like like. Let's see what happens when like my dad gets ten thousand. I I like it. I work critiquing. You almost wanted to stay pure. You're like I I regret bringing up tennis Hashtag those. I don't want that Dennis is good. Good I'm glad you still think that golf. Fuck you know what I mean. I only thank you pass tagging Bro. What's your like big Hashtag? That question right there. That's what I like. That didn't make any sense. Let's didn't make that would ask you that question. Hey what's your favorite Hash Day care. Oh what's your big Ashton. Yeah that's your grandma. Keep that doe eyed look at social media. I love. I can't remember the last time I hashtag anything. What's your big Hashtag? Hashtag is the bachelor. But that's just because that's the bachelor the bachelor like same thing it's like reading through tweets and seeing the Hashtag the bachelor it gets me annoyed ticks me off in love your tweets. It's like you always have to finish off with the bachelor. It's like yeah it's like Do you do a little thing after. I've never fire between greenish the bachelor. I've watched everyone. Who treats about the bachelor like they don't do that? It's just like a little like that's what people do. I do this motion in tennis. A lot of people don't and so the difference is I don't know if we want to tell them the difference that yours is great. You should keep doing it. That's that's AH don't change. Thank you Hashtag. Never Jane much so you. Oh man yes hashtag figs okay. Let's get some headlines Roy mcelroy DOC Roy interview with this Paul kimmage show. He's done Roy's done a few different interviews with the sky in with the Independent he's He does phenomenal phenomenal interviews. And you Kinda just post the transcript of them for the most part. This one started. Make a lot of waves in the golf world for rory basically being open honest candid as we've talked about on the show before but he kind of begins this piece before he gets into the actual interview with describing like sitting down with Federer sitting down the doll. In how. That's been like okay. You can only ask X.. Amount of questions you have to slide in some questions about this Thing that they're trying to promote and you can't ask about this or that and then he's in the Kinda tells that anecdote to basically contrast that with rory who sits down as again. Nothing's off limits. What's up and they go through and talk about a ton of topics it's very perspective? It's very honest a few things I took away from it that I thought would be great for. This show was his comments on playing with Tiger in the final group of the two thousand eighteen tour championship. If you recall it's basically busted the robes followed tiger and rory eighteenth eastlake tigers first win in five years or whatever it was in that whole scene. It was emotional. We're going crazy. That was kind of like Holy Shit. Tiger Woods actually going to win the tournament again and rory very clearly Came out and talked about how much that sucked. And you kind of if you remember like even kind of Tap Tiger at one point was like look behind us man and the the memories of that from my vantage point. Where like how rory's kind of enjoying us like this? He's witnessing it and it was very cool. I thought to hear Rory Respond in one of the comments he said was everyone was like. Wasn't that a great moment. And I'm like no fucking Shite is what he said and he went on to be like it was terrible. I birdied the last hole to shoot four over over. I got the bigger picture is wonderful for golf and I'll look back and think maybe that was pretty cool but it hurt it. Really hurt is probably the one that day the only one of these like that day. That was disappointed. We did so to kind of look at that iconic moment to me I was like maybe the most iconic moment in the history of like PGA tour events like not majors but PG tore events like probably the most enroll being. Yeah I was the only person in all of Atlanta and the country that I would say the world. Yeah he was like East like but it's like everyone felt that way. Everyone was happy except you which I get even even like Justin rose member because he had just won the tour championship. So I remember him. Tiger like buddy buddy up there yet. Roger Mopey given tiger like a huge fist-bump you had other players stuck around graduate tiger on finally winning. And you have rory who comes in and says like he he went on to say. This is an opportunity to beat tiger woods and go down the stretch with him. He he put it in quote this mythical creature in the red shirt and I just didn't get into the right place mentally. He talk more about how this is. Basically what you grow up to do like I get this chance to play in the final group in a very big golf tournament eastlake toward championship against Tiger fricken. Woods and I didn't get it done then he just Kinda went into Excruciating detail about about how much it sucked. He ended up like starting journal after that and realizing that he had to change like some things in order to be able to kind of get over that Hump. And all that so I thought that Moment out of the whole thing was just the perspective and like the the how much he kind of looked into the whole thing and has clearly like rattle him to his course and then was really cool. We talked about portrush started a journal. Something when you get some fucks you up up emotionally and mentally you start journal. You don't start a journal because everything's going no you're like what can I look through this thing change something. Something I'm doing isn't working to impending in paper journal. He's he's writing notes. I think we decided to paper. Yeah when you say journal well I guess what's the difference a telephone I think he takes out quill pen and dips it in Quail Ben Quayle Pen in different lights a candle. That's what I picture and I think someone you kind of have to if you're going through the whole right because right and journals way more it's not about like the actual it's way more about like the whole aura. The whole yeah you gotTa do the whole if he says journal on on. He's talking about his phone. That's a huge. That's disgust. I can't be that's just like helping your tweeting. You're tweeting taking note. That's alerts sure. Yeah match tennis. I don't know if I've ever taught said this but I'm so demented I when I was little started like a little journal where I would draw things things and I would write things just in case died I wanted my family too. I think I may have saw movie or something where they picked up the person's journal. I was like I should do that. It'd be tough enough. I was like your old seven years old and I was like drawn like I love my mom and daddy and like drummed bag one day if I do pass away or something. They'll they'll see this. No I love them. I was like seven years old. She's it was. It was a cruel intentions. No I don't think I was watching that when I was seven. I I think there was probably something I saw on the Tori something. I don't know what it was a mess. Something figuring my brain to be like. Oh I should leave something for them to just so fucking weird and what. What happened journals somewhere? We gotTA goes up. I would love if you find those Burnham the like what a seven year old mind to get to the point where it's like the even think like I'm GonNa die at some point I gotta start journaling. There are some in those journals like real. WanNa read them. But then you know it's probably Derek jeter something like a drawn of him is probably nothing and I don't remember something in my brain remembers it. Yeah I remember putting it onto my bed being like they'll look here too. You're fired amy. Here who fucking dark that is you know great upbringing to like nothing wrong. All the pizza. Yeah it was great my parents. My Dad won't big. I won't say the amount of money but it was a big super bowl. I was really happy for him. I know the number is. It's a good number. How did he parlay better boxes boxes? Nice Picture Your Guy or your dad to put down as a restaurant seven days a week. Zeal working some money sixty years old like you know for him. That's Awes- he big chunk of change last night going crazy. You don't have to tell me but what was it. What was the number to purchase a box five hundred and he hit Oh? He had halftime end. Third Quarter so you people a lot of people do who cares good. That's that's amazing. Good for him. There was no money. It was points. Tally denominations by as many like Joe Clubs as he can. Just that's like that's like that's awesome. I mean there's doors of people win and fucking like two hundred Grand Stephens in whatever but man I remember what's crazy is and I don't want to get into super bowls and I got a football podcast but going into halftime. We thought it was a done deal and Because it was just going to be zero zero zero zero and then at the very end they throw that bomb passed a kiddle and it ends up being passed offensive pass interference and they call uh-huh back call horrible that that just secured zero zero. Had that not been an offensive eager to feel or over. Wow good for him. 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How do you know they're teenagers because they'd still look young on the face but they're all like dressed up like when I was a teenager? We mean dredges up early in fucking. I don't know I don't care with. I mean you know what I mean. Does anybody in this room like like I. I spend on a suit space race down a teenager. I was t-shirt t-shirt shorts. Trying to hide your gut and your titties. That's true. I was skinny right now. Picture of myself off top so picture myself at the Super Bowl and I'm gonNA have healthy week to trying to perfect your the golf swing. You need zero interruptions and you can definitely have that with Robo killer had robo killer dot com slash four play on your mobile device now to download the APP new users get rogue Gillard free for seven days crab your clubs and enjoy the silence again. That's robocaller dot com slash four play. Okay go ahead so Saturday morning. started out with Theresa Sandwich from starbucks with a chocolate salmon. I'm going to W. and then had a coffee then then after Labor said had a in and out Burger two of them Animal style. No problem milkshake yeah and eh finish the day with some sort of snack at the cores maybe a snickers bar or two and then on the way out had McDonalds McDonalds Donaldson forever leashes chicken Sandwich Two cheeseburgers twenty peace mcnugget. Got Your. You can eat like nobody Dan. I thought I had you drive home and I'll tell you what Sunday morning when I woke up to play harding park and you'd be pooping just compelled so stopping sodium. Then I was like how am I gonNa make today where every I felt awful six tacos from Taco Bell. Oh yeah in. Washington with the full thing of mental woke up at a big and cheese and then started my super bowl Sunday with dips tips. And I'm talking all of that many hotdogs and wings I'd just last night I couldn't go to bed all volcano my stomach was bob bullying into my chest. I literally felt like I was having a heart attack and then I also went on instagram store in saw someone that was at the House with me. Take a video. We're all watching SHAQUIR and Jaylo they put on a fantastic show and I'm like just sitting back on a recliner just staring at the screen and I saw my face. The base is from the side. My face is resting on just a fat neck of just like as if there was a fucking like Pilla Ella sitting on a pillow or like a lifeboat or just sitting there staring at J. O.. Shaking uh-huh oh yeah. I got home that night while my stomach is bubbling and shooting out fucking bomb it from my whatever I'm like boy we need to change my diet change. I need to get rid of this fat face I need to turn. I have weddings coming up. You know what someone told me is like this is the most important time one of my buddies right now is getting in shape that this is the most important time to look good when we're like twenty six to thirty two thirty three all 'cause like for the rest of your life all all your friends and even you and and and your family everyone's getting married and there's huge occasions there's pictures of you. This is supposed to be when you look your best. You can't make excuses right when you do. I look like right when you're older and you're fifty and sixty kids are GONNA be. Oh let me see what you look. Like uncle whatever's wedding. That's supposed to be like. Oh Yeah I was a fucking Stud back then but like right now if I look like well in our lives are like that two million degree. We're we're on. We're GONNA BE CAM for this podcast right. It'd be looking back on all this and they'd be like Komo boy and when I look back at home my parents go my God who has young and vibrant like when when they'll pictures of me from this time it's like boy you're letting yourself go terrible terrible. Whatever you motivated Time to get going here. I'm the same height as I was in college. I'm fifty pounds ever ever. Yeah that's horrible. Yeah that's gross you. It wasn't meant to be as something that you will thank me for. It's just you know I would almost say I was too skinny then but yeah too skinny. Yeah I think right now filling out in all the right air I feel a great thank. You never been too Sousse Kenny. Never any moment. You're like I was actually on a pretty good run. I was going to gym there for a little bit and Manda this weekend. Really set me back. Webb Simpson wins the waste management. He it's six. PGA Tour Win also wasn't two thousand twelve. US Open interesting little stat. Here from Sean Martigny you said Webb Simpson now. The seventh ranked player in the world. The other nine members of the top ten doesn't really make sense. The other members of the top ten average average three hundred and six yards off the tee in twenty nineteen their average ranking and driving distance was twenty four th Webb Simpson averaged one hundred and eighty nine yards ranked one hundred and forty fifth in driving distance. So it's kind of Nice to see a guy who doesn't necessarily bomb the golf ball out there still being able to compete and be a top ten ranked player in the world. Who won the Players Championship Cup years ago? It's still vanilla pudding still very boring. You know. Incredible Airbud comes over. licks his face. Yeah go on his interesting Airbud no never heard of so my God. What's everybody vanilla pudding? Yes so damn I wish I had guys. Are you kidding me right now. I don't think I've seen have have I have. It's been a long time Jake. You ever see earbud man. He said yes. Jake said Yes all right go on that was a good reference. There's definitely people giving me Kelly Dabs I think so. Yeah can't own one. So that's awesome no had a home one was able to battle through the crowds and all the HOOPLA that is the waste management and again not hitting the ball particularly Far I guess relatively far to the other guys. He's still the fact that he's averaging two hundred eighty nine yards off the tee skipping out. I mean it's funny because he's he won but he's still not the story. That's how boring is he's not the story of this weekend. pheno Tony now. Is The story twenty. Nine loss. Webb Simpson didn't win. That's how I look at it. I know that he's still like done. made the birdies when when Tony didn't but this was Tony's to win it was but like Webb Simpson went out there and spoke spoke from them. I knew wasn't Tony. phenolic blew it. I wouldn't say like He. He gave himself whatever. It was. Six eight footer. For Birdie on the seventy second hole after hitting a three hundred sixty six yard drive hit good wedge in there and and then Webb Simpson just birdied seventeen and eighteen and the first playoff hole three birdies in a row to like steal the tournament from from when for most of the day when you have solo lead like you congest usually break away or I mean it's your tournament to lose when you have the solo lead going. I mean he had the sole elite. It isn't it isn't I mean when people are chasing though they're apt to go for a little bit more. You're up to play a little safer. That happens all the time I know and that just is what it is like go out and went keep staying elite do what they're doing but ahead of them. Yeah I mean look. He clearly didn't get it done. He didn't get the job done. He did not win the golf tournament. I think like you know. Sometimes you see people hit really horrible shots coming down the stretch or blow it or whatever. Maybe like Jack Really Short. PUTT this that. I don't know there's like one moment sir that sticks out like yeah. He missed his left or right slider on the on the seventy second hole for to win the golf tournament that it felt like he was going to make it because because he had played so well and he was gonNA lead and he he had all the. He's making all the birdies on sixteen with the Kobe Jerseys on awesome in all of that adding up like this. Is Tony Females. Week Week. I definitely agree with that It was kind of bizarre like once he lost. It almost didn't feel like he lost it. He's GonNa he's GonNa win. Webb Simpson is like been and he doesn't get any of the coverages borings. No putting whatever we want to call. There's no way he's just GonNa like be the story of when the golf tournament couldn't believe he made that Putt on eighteen. Yeah Yeah I mean it's waste management like you said earlier like always goes into a playoff. It feels like on Super Bowl Sunday but when he made up put on Tina's like females goes females GonNa fucking losing our guy called going to be heartbroken again again Kobe's been baton on twenty nine to win every time since really light. We started this golf podcast three years ago and twenty feet now in the last four seasons on a PJ Tour eighty-nine starts has six runner-up finishes fifteen top. Fives Twenty eight top. Tens in forty seven top twenty five. I'm looking at right now now. He's made eighteen. Point one million so things are going really well for twenty five dollars. Zero wins in that strike. You just can't win. He just doesn't win. That's six runner up number. I would've said it was was like fifteen. Yeah I think the The twenty eight top tens is like in the fact that he's up to I think twelve th ranked player in the world. He's on you know. Wrote Ryder Cup Presidents President's Cup teams and plays well. He's he does feel like every event you see Tony Female and what comes with a lot of those top tens. Is that like at some point point over that four day tournament when you finish top ten. There's a good chance that you're at the lead or near the top right like if you finish eighth. There's a good chance. What's that like at the fifty four hole point? You're like second or at one point in the Friday round. You like made four birdies in a row to take the lead in the right so it feels like he has been been right there in one or should have won or finished runner up even more than he has. Unless you're like Roy who backed or top ten's all time usually when you finished up ten like you at some point in the shuffle had a very good chance or you were at the top of the leaderboard or whatever so him having twenty eight top tens in the last eighty. Nine hundred starts is a ridiculous number Even fifteen top five top fives. He's got he's right there. Justin Rey tweeted out most top ten On PJ or last four seasons number wins in that same in British essentially. Just Thomas who has thirty three top ten's he's got eleven wins Rom with thirty top ten. He's got three wins. Rory with thirty he's got five wins ends. Dj With Twenty Eight. He got eight wins. Tony fee now. Also with twenty eight years zero insult God that really puts in perspective. It's like if you have that many. You just win a lot us. That's right unless you're twenty five. You win some like you just have to win some in the mix. A YOU'RE NOT GONNA Justin Thomas. Who is that like a thirty three percent? You'RE GONNA win. I mean at least one one. You'd think or two. I mean the masters last year was in front of everybody's face having zero. Yeah I mean you're making good money but you're you can't feel that accomplished no because you want I mean that's you know you stack those winds up. That's like people when you if you have a golf channel Gig in twenty years. Afterwards they introduce you like seven time tour winner. They don't introduce you is like thirty two towns right right. You gotta take advantage of stretches like this where you like. You've got a pile up a couple of wins. Twenty now has not gotten any right because winning is so difficult playing like this well this consistently is show so difficult. He's doing it yet. Just not winning. So it's got to be infuriating for him he said it's a bigger bidder week. A bitter week As I look back on it hats off the web berries coming home. And if you're going to get beat that's how it should happen. I definitely didn't give him the tournament. He took the lead from me early. And I got it late but unfortunately fortunately talbot cookie crumbles today so again it was one of those like it never felt like he wasn't going to win until Webb Simpson made that Putt and then it was almost like way to segment. It should still have a chance. Yeah how is he not going to win now and then it was weird it was it was kind of weird the way it went down. But it's how the cookie crumbles. I've never seen someone. Actually use real excited. Jim Carrey Gary. I've seen people like use it like we would people say that almost in a joking tone. I've never seen someone actually using it. Ernest got it. It's kind of Nice. Yeah I agree. The how the cookie crumbles today on the tax put like just joking Tony fee and I was like Yeah Webb Simpson May to breeze. And that's how the cookie you. Yeah this is nice thing about that That that that that saying is that you never really know how the cookies crumble. For the if if it's a good cookie it's not gonNA crumble while I think that's part of the line is. Yeah that's how the cookie crumbles you don't own that's how it happens. I thought he's meeting like that's just like when you eat. It's GonNa Crumble and lake. Jake that is like I just feel like you never know what kind of Chromium Nature Valley. This is gonNA crumble right but it's like Louie. Cookie doesn't crumble at all. It's perfect but I think that's that's what what they're slacks. He's thinking of like an old cookie like hard crusty cookie right away. Got Some kind of the way that this one crumbled for him was is like an old crusty cookie. I think it's the unpredictable chips Zach. Okay exactly what like a homemade cookies at Crumlin. No we don't know yeah hate this. I hate that saying. That's the way the cookie crumbles the amount of times. We're going to start saying. Yeah how offs like Frankie Blades. Blades would over the years. Like that's the way the playoffs. That's the Metro is insane. It's insane who the fuck ever assumed that the jackets acas fall out of it. Though over three three games enhance such is not fair to sit there in a wildcard spot cooking games that are the teams are. But it's amazing golf with this Guy Nolan. One loves you for comments like exactly the way you just said crumbling okay. That's fantastic show at the Nolan. Yup Big Fan of that Guy Golfer are the islanders. I'm just outside of a playoff spot right now. We're in a place by outside of the division top three though. Look I love the islanders. I don't WanNa see them. I played bad hot. They've been playing like five hundred hockey for for the past month and it's just not good enough when the teams around you win every single night. Pittsburgh wins every single night Columbus. Blue jackets loss. Aaron and Bobrovsky. They win every single night. That's where Tortorella Charlatans Philadelphia is right there so much with so little it's Crazy Carolina. Here's a worse team. He doesn't have talent. These apply capitals having lost seven months. Rhinos Ranger Suck. People were going. Oh crazy that they they they shut out the red wings one of the worst nationals the print sports teams in the history of shutout the redwings not getting the NHL those eager knaw that those I thought eager came a hat for different I. It was his big little update here on goal differential in the NHL. The Detroit Red Wings are the worst goal-differential in the NHL at minus number three the second worst is at minus forty eight. Wait what's the best the capital's capitals are plus thirty five. The Pittsburgh Penguins are plus thirty four. The Boston bruins and plus forty Tampa Bay plus forty three rules and nobody in the West is close. Colorado's plus thirty three Tough stretcher to it's tough is real real tough talk really really tough tough just really tough. We've got to go to Vegas Colorado. This'll really tough guys around is as you just around the corner. It's possibly the only day of the year you do want to get caught with your pants down. That's accent ax. Yeah well Bingo. 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Yeah I need we get a picture when you stretch back and then you're Bella show glistening white silk. That's where I need to get you but then we go down a bad rabbits. and Ah y'all cheers. We start fucking exactly that type of war. sanely slippery slope they. I don't think I want to go down the US and the Arnaiz join distance. Report is coming out on Tuesday. So there's large or there's there's long been a very serious debate in the world of golf about distance. Dial back the golf ball the equipment. What can you do a lot of different reasons? One of them being that I mean twenty feet now hit a three hundred sixty six yard drive on the eighteenth hole yesterday if guys running the ball that far there's almost no way to defend the golf course and it's it's really becomes a problem of. There's a finite amount of land on planet earth especially a lot of golf course. A lot of sites lurch was talking about harding park earlier and how tight heighten already is so if you want to make these courses a lot of these iconic courses around the world Able to host serious majored off tournaments. They they need to have an unreal amount of land We're talking eight thousand yard courses. You've heard all those numbers and they're only continuing hit the ball further and further. So they're gonNA have to get longer longer. you run how to land it kind of changes away. A lot of the classic especially courses that were built in the early nineteen hundreds all that stuff so a lot of folks have been saying. Why don't you roll the golf ball back there? I guess technologically you can just like dial it back by percentage I think you could put restrictions on it you know. The Golf Ball has a certain amount of the just the way that it's that it's made words not gonNa jump is much not going to be fire. You'RE GONNA lose ten percent twenty percent. Whatever that would bring all the yards back it won't change anything else And that's long been sort of the route. that a Lotta people especially like course architecture geeks whatnot want to go so that you can bring a lot of the classic golf courses back into play. You don't have to add a million tee boxes all that. US Jay in our Dave for years have been doing a report on distance have been collecting all kinds of data information for decades or over decades over really centuries about how distance has really truly truly affected. It is that they're better. Athletes is at the. Golf Ball is to well-designed now is it the the drivers and the four hundred sixty see. What is this whole report? It comes out tomorrow. That's really The gist and again the US Jia in Arnhem have been working on this together. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. A lot of people think they'll be kind of two different math one for the PGA tour of the pro golf in one for amateur golfers. Because let's be honest. We need as much help as we can get tons golf's better for all of us win like it's just just easier to think they would adjust a red like like courses that are already or amateurs could play with good ball but championship golf would would be under. This ball goes far so then. The courses are all employees. You can still play them because God gave a championship. All I'd be driving at two hundred ten talked. Yeah actually we did talk about this when we were talking about the possible Things that we brought this up before said like there's going to be hard as player at the championship ball right. We did a whole a bit online again. That's going to be the worst people. And then there's an actual ballpoint championship. You're using fuck your face. Yes yes that's the last time you talk to that person totally from caddyshack that just knocked it in every time. Yeah Oh use potter same if you use the championship championship ball. Don't talk. No unless you're on toward Dalton's my number lose my number that would be. It would feel like when we were in Australia. You had to do like the ten percent calculation every time. Yeah because the yardage like you'd have to African actors. Yeah so it'll be like the ball thing because I know it's going to be a problem I know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA create monsters like I just said and there's always. There's going to be a stigma now around the game. We're trying to take the stigma around the game to me go. You need to play early this way or you need to play that what you need to do certain things. There's going to be a ball stigma. Why are we creating more restrictions for amateur golfers? Why are we making it like? Oh you play the sport but you don't get the play the way the pros play it enough but it should be the other way and is hard. Land is not as easy as other people wearing a backwards and wearing t-shirts as the opposite. We shouldn't be saying they do a certain sport. We do another or should be the opposite. But I don't know that it's it's I don't think those two things are the same thing. There will be a real big like playing a championship like in it. It's like in baseball. Like like Metal Wooden Bat. Like it's not that doesn't mean like you're just a total Harto like asshole. It's like the same way that wearing Baghdad. Listen to music of this that I think it's more like there's just a very logical argument for if we have to keep expanding golf courses. You have to water more grass. It becomes like less sustainable to have to do that over times at some point. You're going to have to do something about it. Did I think they added eighty or ninety tea boxes. That's just harding park sorry. ABC Item percolate. They think they added nine hundred. Eighty bucks is the official problem with guys hitting the ball. But why can't they just hit the ball closer to the green. Well I mean. That's what harding parks. And then just reduce the power number from seventy to seventy. But I think the argument for them not hitting closer to the green is because the way courses are designed with like the bunkering and wear fairway bunkers are and then the shot that they want have players to come into the green at all or just being taken out of play so like the way of course was being designed to play back in the day is is now like Tony. Female drives three thirty instead of two eighty. Right like look at Statistic lurching and Augusta for example like there been a Gusta literally bought like seventy yards ords of land behind that for millions and millions of dollars and the argument for like expanding that whole in lengthening. Is that it was designed by allison else. Mckinsey Bobby Jones to like have guys hit a good drive and if they hit a good drive then they have like a long iron or maybe even would in their hand on like a hook lie that they have to hit with a creek running down the right intellectual whereas now Bubba Watson rips of three hundred forty yard drive he has like a pitching wedge in and that the argument is just like the way that the courses Zor designed in order to hold the integrity of that design. You have to then expand the golf courses by fifty or one hundred yards and that's at some level not sustainable so the theory areas to do something at some point before it gets too out of hand a lot of people argue that already is out of hand and I think that guys can just bomb drive three fifty every time and have a wedge in then. You can't defend the golf course and you're GonNa have guys shooting like twenty or twenty five hundred majors which I think people don't like and that's really kind of the crux of the of the issue. Dacha also. Yeah it's also it's like an integrity of like the The golf course thing which sounds kind of weird and like I don't know it's what you mean but it is senator attention. It's like these fucking architects designed. It's like Oh shit too far. Sorry Affair Fair. We definitely harder than this. It's like well I mean we evolved and Tony Females any absolute bombs right in your face. Right don't get mad at him like they were dealing with Jefferson right like most of it's just like it's mostly just amateur that it doesn't matter like correct that's like brandel has been fighting this fight for years on twitter of like we're talking about something thing that really actually effects like hundred offers correct in the whole world right so it's bigger than the sport but like for the most that's part where it doesn't matter Balls in the fairways because he already can't take you know what I mean. It doesn't matter for anyone else but Tony few now. And we kept golf committed At harding I think the fourth hole I want to say as a par four that six hundred yards and like a dogleg left but it only goes it was like one hundred yards out before like flashes to the left so you have to have this towering Dr Draw over trees and like that whole just impossible. Yeah like I said everything thing is still in play like taking out a way you built it one hundred years ago. Boys is perfect tip out golf courses because there are two harder yes right we. We already have the length that we won't go to and that is that you've just hit on. I think has been the main counterargument which is like. We're just no no good this one week week year for the majors. Just tighten those fairways up the rough out like crazy and let them have their cool challenge and you can have them shoot over par and then cut it all back down and the rest of the fifty one weeks of the year like we're just going to do what we do and like that wise there needs to be two different things if they end up releasing a new ball. Don't ever put it in a rotation or on on the market because I don't want that guy who the bright vibrant pants who's going to tip it out today boys and then takes out his fucking torch championship ball because I'm an ended up murdering someone and I'm going to be in jail and I really don't want to go to jail. No Yeah we don't want you. I'll get so angry if I go to golf. Course and this guy's like I'm gonNA use it Imagine go with the buddy. We're GONNA play the blues or whatever and he's a nominee play the blacks and also have this championship ball and so wait on them and then he just socks or if he's like yeah. I'll I play the blues. The abominations the championship trophy. Because I'm GonNa make your heart stop. It's going to suck doc. There will do it. Don't let it be. Don't let anyone else get the ball. Just just when they show them to the driving range. That's the only time that they're allowed won't be worse if he didn't the guy didn't tell you and then at the end of the round by the way a tour championship because often awesome puke city that reportedly interesting. We'll see yes. Report comes out tomorrow. I don't know that a a lot's going to come from it right away. I think a lot of is like this is just kind of what we found out. What do we do about? It will be like a feedback period similar to what it was with With the putter ban. Remember that the long putter and they kind of did a like whenever months of feedback and then kind of went with the rule so tomorrow's like the official ruling tomorrow no tomorrow is Liberal. Port is covered today when podcasts. Guess comes out. Yes sorry Tuesday I believe is when just the report comes out okay. They're just purporting. It's like the Mitchell report. Remember the Mitchell report and of course she was crazy crazy so I'm I'm that was steroids. Yeah Yep Yep brains been bad ed again today. Play Brain Games. China's connect four tries to sharp. Yeah just like I think it brings me good today. Yeah you ever do Sudoku done to. It's tough I don't use it okay. Because my brain legitimately does not. I'm not even kidding. I look at that and just like I've tried it in Ernest and it's like nope that's how you opened Doku Book and you have the exact tiger reaction when he asks you I do I do. I see people playing this game. And it's like you guys are aliens or something. I hung out with a girl that would do experts at Oku like five minutes. It's like what is that. How do you what are you doing? How do you see it? It's like she's the what the Hell Russell Crowe that movie were American Man. No Oh woh go with me mine. Mine very cute. I I made a beautiful mind reference a couple of weeks. Nobody knew what I was talking about him on. I made when they're at the bar and he comes up with his theory about how nobody goes after the Most desirable chick like the ten because nobody will get laid all fail going after y'all go underneath and actually that would be more likely that someone would eventually get her because the she'll be like what the hell is going on and it was the whole thing I brought that up in radio and a phenomenal reference number was talking about I wouldn't be able to pull reference. Really no yeah. I definitely know the name of the movie. WHO's involved. But I couldn't pull something like that. Yeah you kind of like one of the main pillars of his whole a beautiful mind and his genius in theory stuff comes from when he's at the bar and realizing everybody tail because they're all going after the hottest chick Gotcha or if they would all go after like the second third fourth hottest chicks. They'd all be significantly more successful. Also all have a more likely the chance of actually landing the hottest chick Russell Crowe's incredible in that movie. Really good incredible. Yeah he's a good actor. Speaking of Movies Hammer. I brought up that Running around he's actually pretty sick acting. Gladiator I remember that that blockbuster buster movie game I told you guys about on of comments and DM's and stuff people were planning to. I mean they should pay me for that. That's crazy but because we shouldn't do any free as but it's such a game. They had talk about it. What are you guys thinking about this? Actually my friends told me I forgot to ask you guys. This was like one of the biggest points of contention for the entire night. I brought up how we didn't allow the use of the word the when we were talking about movies and start with the letter. s the another thing was we. Were doing one where you're trying to get the person to guess by saying one word and the the movie and the word word that was used so the movie was babe remember. You know that we'll be with the pig. All the kid had to say was pig but on four unfortunately said Ruth right and and my girlfriend screams out babe ruth now is that allowed now in charade. You're just trying to get the person to say the word that's all you're trying to do or like in games like that. She said Babe Ruth but she didn't mean the real and she didn't. I wouldn't count count that that were different than bed. That's the movie's movies called Babe. She said. You should see me. I was like it was like doing like basically I was a fucking lawyer Mike. What's the movie called like Babe? What is the first word? She said they said baby right. It's over she one now why she didn't meet He. It'd be like owns and you said it rolling lightstone Rachel or games. You're like oh ATV TV you don't you don't know what you're saying. I guess if your goal is to just get her to say the word rape then that how did do not succeed right. Yeah she quite literally succeed. Guy Who said Ruth was that his intention to say Babe. See that so then you give it. The one of these route. showed it up shortly. Yeah we went onto the next baby ended and we were like well. It said no chance and I was like well. Let me tell you something you and on the other side of that you would be possible. Play Game No. That's right if you flip the scenario you'd be like well. She didn't look too on the movie. Babe so shootout come into the only plays games that are called like. I know you're like that's yeah. That's exactly right shaking his. That looks like it's nothing I can fuck and do. We didn't win I win. They didn't win that one. I didn't win that debate. They they didn't then let me take that one. That one deserve it so no I genuinely day. She said the word Babe. And you're just just doing everything you can to get that name out of all the words in the world. She said the word that is the movie right. Got Her to say the word Babe just fregate his girlfriend getting Uber Uber. He's like can you believe that doing these. They Ruth. Hey hang pig. It's a movie your problem isn't this isn't even that you're upset about babe. Ruth's more say the right word upfront. Easily Tornado she didn't even know what the Fuck I see eh. Excuse me Sir. pull the bureau. I just walked on Jordan speed missing cut waste management a lot going on with speed he had you know. Speeds is kind of up there with rory in terms of these candidates open about his game always has been and she's about a lot of stuff which is a part of the reason that we that we love him. He said the frustration was was just. Will I really wanted it. I wanted to play the weekend. I had a bunch of buddies coming down. This was just sad when I read this year at a bunch of buddies coming down and I wanted to give them something to watch the next couple of days when he said Ed buddies coming down and I didn't make the cut that honestly made me sad and then there was some pretty good insight This piece says he strengthened his grip by some five degrees and they're working on getting shaft flatter they very close club face in his backswing. This makes his accuracy into the Greens. Friday perhaps even more impressive green day but the flip side of that is there could be some radic at golf. He went on to say this. This is something that takes two to three months to nail down. It's an unusual feeling for me and it's been difficult to trust especially without having my grip in the perfect place. I miss a Lotta left shots. Given the Grit my hands are pretty good and I'll be able to figure it out in a couple of weeks but I did it with the idea that we have a couple of months before the first major so just hearing him there. Talk talk about you. Know it's GonNa take two or three months to change your grip and all that makes me no. We have no chance ever of being good like he's going to be playing golf and at the range and grinding ending. He's already one of the best players on the world and it's still going to take him two to three months to like feel comfortable something. Like how are we supposed ever-changing. It'd be honest. I changed my grip in and worked instantly so right true but like not like breaking a hundred I want. Yeah but let's yeah I definitely joking. It landed a serious so that was the first round with okay because I wanted to be like George speed like get together path But yeah I thought you were dead serious. I agree I want to be fair. Did away when kids series. No it wasn't I I as soon as you guys in reactors like I fucked that up so I like about speed and you compare them to to Roy a little bit in terms of like what they talk about. I think you could ask you the question and walk away and he'd still answer it like I think he like Roy gives like really thoughtful. interspecies just wants to say something he wants to tell you and he just and I liked that about him because he says interesting things like that. He's just always thinking about seven. I think he wants to tell people almost just like light the fuse and walk by and he's still going to just go off. I think it's great because you get interesting stuff going to take takeaway for that grip to actually work. Yeah it is. It's entitled like to think. And then every time they cut to speak now on the coverage over the next month or two. I'm going to think in my head like wow. He's holding that club five degree. That's that's Kinda feel gives you something of like he's grinding over it which we all do also when you make comments like this makes the fans like compassionate like like He. He's very very open honest about his game and like you know where he was used at the pinnacle. Now he's like fallen off and he's just trying to figure out why listening for someone to be like yet comes easy to me like there's no one more just like blocking people out and being open about it and being like no no like. You don't understand like I'm doing this doesn't this and like we'll be back but like you know in his words here. He's getting granular. Yeah I degrees try and get into the work but it's probably not gonNA work for a couple of months. Yeah totally his buddies in town. I wanted I something for them to be fun and like him and have have a great weekend like all that stuff like that. That reminds me of another staff joins bath of another incredibly insightful. Part of the rory interview you which if you haven't read it you go to Go to independent you click. It's actually free. You have to give them your email and sign up but it's not pay. Walsh is free so check that out. But they're talking about Roy's get an in depth about his putting and he's saying you know there was a stretch. Where like I knew I was the best player in the world but putting was holding me back and I just couldn't figure out what the difference was like and He works with Brad Faxon now. He said the first day they had like a couple of our session on the practice cream and he said he brags they talked for like a half hour. Something just like about stuff and he said Roy said that you know every other part of my game is like free-flowing and I rely on feel and I always consider myself like a loose like feel player. And he's like putting is the opposite. I always consider myself like wooden like trying to figure this out. You said Brad Faxon had him go out with a His Potter her I think a wedge and five would and hit three putts with each one from like eight feet and said the pottery made one with the wedge. He made to to with the five would he made all three interesting and Brad faxes likes now. The reason I made you do that is because I know in your head. You're thinking all time about like the loft and the And the technical aspect of the. What's my lion going all this that? And he's like you took all that of nineteen degrees of loft and you just made three in a row from eight feet. He's like that's because it's instinctual and you need to be instinctive. As putting the next week. Roy went out at Bay Hill that year when he made everything. I'd like the best putting year of his career and won by like four or five show. It wasn't that crazy fucking wizard. A wizard mentally free and somebody up. Yeah it'd be like taking franken working with them some ruling. Whatever John No opening of that journal I don't know what he did you because there's not much talent like in this case it's makes Rachel exactly and you're just just all like he's just all on his own head and then you just do a couple of drills and boom but even like yeah the way he talks about? It's like you can't just tell yourself to like break down those walls that are stopping from doing you have to like come at it from another approach. That'd be proven you that they can be broken down and you're putting with that three wooden. It's like I can do this. I don't don't know why you're putting your. I guess he told me to do what I'm doing it. And then when he and then when he kinda peels at all back and this is why that happened. You're like Oh yeah okay from Roy side to like when you're doing a drill like that and like you have a coach and everybody's had a coach where like screw this guy like this is some crazy drill like this is worthless by Roy clearly wanted to fix this led to the tenth degree and to do these drills and my care about them and then make it and then like his feedback. And then go with that you know it's shouted. Am to yeah it's very cool cool and And Rory it reading that stuff too talked a lot of he talked a lot about like Gusta and and the Patrick Reed member when Rory said the night before that like he's the one that's he's the one out there trying to win his first major Like all trying to put all the pressure on him on Patrick Reed and the guy asked I worry about that. Roy's like yeah. That's exactly what I was trying to do. The pressure off me and put it on him. He tells the story about how he walked up to. The I T that Sunday One of the starters who's clearly got to be like a member that one of the starters When he shook his hand the starter looked at right in the eye? It was like we're all pulling for you today. Oh Yeah Oh we tuck and how rory was like an I like honestly up to that like those points that makes you. It is much as I tried to deflect the pressure. He's like all that stuff makes you very much realize is that like it when my deflection attempts were not success and like pressure affects all of us in like expectations and all this that talked about the portrush comments where he was. You're walking in and it feels like you're a box going in there and there's a huge ovation people expect all these things and then it's fucking it's over like that. He's creat here and I'm talking about that. He's like I'M I. I was on the range stripe in the golf ball on the putting green. I shook my hand I walk. Everything's totally normal totally cool. I Walk Right on the first tee and like Harry Dot. Who's his caddy's like? I asked him like am. I GONNA hit Foreign Harry's looking. What are you talking about? We haven't talked for like ever like what are you talking about. Pulled to iron out of bounds. Make squad or whatever for and like Mrs the cut but it's like everything just kind of happened. So very insightful. a lot of a lot of good stuff in there we're done for today may have anything else we were talking about before Span and like. It's crazy the last three years when you look at like compared to someone like Tony Fina like in two thousand eighteen. If you ask. Would you rather be right now. Tony Female or Jordan speed. It's like all no doubt about it. Jordan spieth he had just come off twenty seventeen making calls at ten million dollars in the PGA tour three wins and twelve top tens. I mean he won the open. He won the pro. Am He won the travelers on top of the world and then the next three years the last three three recent years twenty females made ten million dollars or like this is all just rounding numbers trying to my head. And I can't imagine how that's going and speed is like around five million doubled. His earnings over the last three years and twenty females. Just been in the mix while George speed this spiraling down the questions like if you like like right now would you rather be like if you had money aside. Because he's made double the amount of money right. Like Jordan speech made forty million dollar majors to she. Got The majors but like twenty dollars enjoying and being a golfer right now so much more for three years than species right. I'd still be. Don't think so. I just think rory or a speed ceiling is higher. You think so I just do based on I I mean if guys got three major championships like at such a young age. But you're right you could like it's riskier. He can only female feels that. You've taken a Ferrari out though. It just feels like being able to play like Kim Woodhall so much. It also feels like if Tony you're taking like A five million dollar salary for the next like ten years just twenty eighteen Tony just blown out of the water right anyways and you don't have to change anything. You're just Tony you're tall. You've got your like compact little sweet. Nothings changed the game. We always talk about every time when we speak at one of these events. He's like grinding man. I think that like wears on him. Grinding you follow speech or like Charlie showed up this. This is horrible to Tony's out there in a frigging Kobe Jersey. Like playing for Dick off. Yeah if you follow if you speak for a minute at a golf tournament you're like this is like trust he. He's a bit of a head. Gay Sees always trying to work on things. Yeah fee now. We played behind him where we was. That was yeah. Yeah warning that we have the Then we went to pasta behind five playing with Danny. And he was just he'd hit it he did a monster drive hit a wedge in putting was a little shaky but he was just. I like it was almost easy for him to be out there. Like what do I do really stressful speed through Tell this coach to get out of the way when he's right in front of you and he's got like ghost mask on of Sunscreen McCormack almost snatched her soul he. I think he literally has a portion of my whole crux for Jordan speeds coach. I'd like to give one shout out to a guy named Sean Golf with. I did a little dirty in my amazing pieces of content. I called him Mr Shawn wrong because he has a very short swing okay. He's a a fantastic guy. Different types of personalities. I just wanted to correct. Maybe right that wrong. If you've got you know what I mean. Yeah I wanna make a comment about the guys who played with that Guy Chris who said that I was going to be fucking I russell like his glasses. Do us the most fun Golfer. He's fun and a really good dude. I don't like the glasses I think when you start picking things apart. People don't like to dangerous world I don't like to see. I don't like clear glasses. I don't like him on any. What's fair you're trying to be like a keynote speaker For like apple or something. I mean I'm not trying trying to shred the glass. That's fine but he's entitled little. I'm not hearing you know. Pick a side. I'm just saying like I. I noticed on your story. What if like like he started picking out like it is? That's true taste dangerous. There's a fighter don't like him because he said you're so fucked on this I different. And you you hold grudges as well as anybody guy. Yeah you know who else the Guy Jordan Jordan Justin I just thought I would you shoot I. I don't even know if I took a score in the first of all on the elevator. Deep Down you're GONNA remember over one hundred uh-huh yeah. Okay this is. This is the same terminology that got us in trouble with just Thomas Pathway. What you shoot on one? Would you shoot on eighteen. Scott would you make I meant what'd you shoot like on the day he say. Somebody Justin Bieber glitters Justin Bieber's pastor. He wears glasses. Hot Past. Carlin's Carlin's it's hot passed under upset when I wore glasses and here the other day. Yeah I don't like them. I don't like this clear glasses. Tommy smokes tried to wear. What about Allier? No I'm talking. The Lens are clear. It's like it. They're trying to act like they're not wearing this huge thing on their face by making them completely glare. Meanwhile you just see all. This is plastic over there. Is You mean clear. Clear like Rams and everything and every thirty. Yeah those kill Presley's Sun chance the rapper's manager. Yeah it's ridiculous yeah. I'm sorry. There was a fighter rowdy on on Friday night whose name was John. Rumsfeld the say on the whole it is I think if you say sh sh the whole I think that's definitely considered correct. I shouted like what did you shoot Jonah. Six when someone says what are they shoot your. They're asking for eighteen holes okay. Well let's difference between home but it's just the lane shot not because when we finish up the fifth hole. I'm like what you make if I ask you understand that just saying like when someone says no that's just incorrect on say it that way. What do they mean by that? I think it would be the same thing as being like. I shot a goal in hockey. But you shot the puck and score like hockey. Do you guys scored a goal. You wouldn't say shot the goal. I think it's the same exact there we literally say. I shot ninety five I at the end of the round. There's other comparison to that in hockey where it's like. I shot a goal. A shot seven goals that day. There is no comparison to that is my so. You're wondering if a grammatically correct. Yeah because people get angry doesn't Thomas uh-huh yes I mean it'd be like fucking man right now you're just wondering if it's fucking pissed all he's got. The bengals have made a former bengals. How this outfit outfit? Technically both. I'm saying that I understand the goal but you also say I shot a ninety five today. I don't know what the bengals thing is so I cut you off grammatically grammatically at work so I like the Bengals have a uniform outfit. Okay you know what I mean like. When you're talking about the bengals it sounds really stupid and say look at the bengals outfit? I don't even think that that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that there is a term for golf. When you say I shot a ninety five? Why do we take that away? And it's incorrect. When you talk about one halt I is? It has to be after after the round. I don't think it's necessarily considered incorrect. A dig it's considered someone hears you say that and says like that person has a lot of golf. What a more neither cares though? I know that shouldn't be the case. It's going to be just like golfing world a tough one. It's not a tough one to live in. We use the term. I shot a score score. Why can't you use F retail? Why why is that like that guy doesn't know what the book I think? It's as simple as if you get matched up with somebody in the first hole and after the the guys like. Hey I'm keeping score. Would you shoot on one there. It'd be nice guy doesn't play golf. That would be the reaction so man I I don't fucking say that just off the top man. I think I've said did that all the time I think it all the time would you shoot. They're like him. I think I'd say off the top of my head. Just no problem and I don't think there should be any stigma about that. We era pockets about drinking and fucking making music. Why can't we still have opinions and say stuff sound stupid? You can't you just have someone says I shot a non-eu that goes to play any gov that's literally the opposite of play Golf. I said like I think that just sounds like that doesn't get out so I'm not saying he's horrible person. I'm saying that into yeah. I think it sounds like that guy's not that into golf. Yeah now it should be there. It changes it but when like if you get off the first one I go would you shoot but when you say would you shoot there so our this is don game totally. That's why I think it's fucking stupid. I think you say whatever the fuck you want. I think it's stupid. Would you shoot there would did you shoot If I said would you shoot and you also like this guy fucking sucks itemizes to one whole. Well what'd you shoot as eighteen holes. That's just what I was thinking to European fucking stupid fucking stupid that we would sit there and would you shoot it just. It's just like trench thing like what that sounds a little weird on the year. That's because we use the term all the time but post game post round score right. It's just fine for for me. You can say whatever the hell you want. I'm just trying to make it for the people that go out there and say would you shoot that. They're not being fucking ridiculed like the. We tweeted at our account. It's a fucking you just said. What'd you shoot? And just like now they all say that at our club. That's not fucking cool. You don't think so I'm with you know I'm with you. I agree with that. Would you shoot there. That's wrong do dumb things and everything like this is like an ideology of the support. Not though I'm not though because people literally say you don't know what you're talking about when you say would you shoot their no they just think it may it. It takes away like Justin. Thomas comment was like you lose credibility. That's stupid that's so stupid. That's so stupid. That is so stupid to say would would you shoot there. And he's like you have no credibility in this sport. So how's it different anything insane because that just makes you sound stupid like that would thank. You seem like unknowing like all the bengals outfit today. That would make you see the term outfit that much in sports you literally used the term. Shoot in golf off. That's my point you don't use the term out another word out there. No I think I have simple as like transfers reaction was like it just doesn't sit right on the symbol. No one's like a pretentious douchebag saying like I duNNo. It didn't quite right but that's the BAGRI comes out when someone says like I think just going going over the top and like responding. Were like if I if I heard that comment. I've never like roasted somebody in the t four right the score down like it's not a big deal correct someone. I agree with algae deliver. It is massive around speaking that where should not be even in your head while this guy doesn't really know what he's talking about because you do know what you're talking about is my point. I think that that's a perfectly fine thing to say. I shot a nine on that. You're entitled European I. I think it's correct see. That's where you're tough to even talk. No it's not tough because you use the term shoot all the time. In God's just we pick and choose when it's correct when on united to say it that stuff about drives me fucking bananas it does it just drives me want to create my own golf course where you can do. You could say wherever the fuck you want there's a good Carson Jersey. You I'm GonNa say Golfing Course. Would you shoot onto. That's GonNa be the name of the Gulf War. Golfing course would just shoot onto. That's GonNa be the name of the golf course is GonNa be a great course GonNa hate that course house boss managed to start fucking coming with the Times because you know what golf is not all about the shit anymore. You can say golfing. You could say shoot. I'm here for you. People crazy. Your Voice Voice. It's crazy okay. I want to look up what he actually said. I still think you sound Kinda stupid if you say would you shoot there. Well you know I think that goes. I don't know I think that's when I disagree with that. I I think you shoot their works on my year. Says what'd you shoot. That doesn't work. I just think he is like what you make on three. I don't think you say what you shoot on the part that doesn't sound right to me is shot whatever. Yeah it's asking. The question feels very natural. Does sound dumber when you say I shot six. Yeah it just does and in the wives does I like I like what Frank. He's trying to say I will say that our big show right he has the right attitude attitude about it the openness for sure yes and it's not even that much unreach- I'm not even going about the openness. I I'm just like the Twang on my ear when you don't say I shot a Birdie now you don't a made a bird but I shot like diamond off. That's grammatically Rut ways like to get a shot. A birdie is shot a bird flying around certainly never passed judgement on someone's knowledge they said would they say what fuck they want. They're out there. That's cool. I just think that that's like when just ask him after it's like. Wow you guys really don't like this is a golf podcast. That isn't that what he wrote this. Don't you guys covered I. I gotta be honest. It's really this doesn't do a lot of your credibility in golf or something like that insane. I know I'm late on this because that was months ago but I don't know I think that's insane insane doesn't do a lot for your. I mean I WANNA go on. CBS during the Masters and Say Tiger which is shot in nine. No shot at three times saying I. I make a lot of nines. Tiger Woods shot three. I WANNA say partner want people. I want people's cars to start going off the road and Shit like at San. Andreas the movie with Iraq. People have just fucking hyphen flying all over the place. I Tiger Woods shoots at three on the third hall. People fucking flying off the handle. All right sounds really dumb. All right who pithart should numbers just finished with art right

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Rory For The Win

The Golf Podcast

1:05:10 hr | 1 year ago

Rory For The Win

"The now on the it's mattie and the catty here's berry and michael college. He boxed alongside the catty michael. I am the mattie happy mattie and caddy a wednesday we will we are going to do our best to get this out will not do our best time. We'll be a wednesdays and wednesday mornings late morning early afternoon as we embark on the football season and the non off-season. That is the season golf. I scheduled. It's overweight. What what kind of yeah who wants to take a two week break map but we we come to you on the first wednesday after the fedex cup championship and the pay day and perhaps one of the quietest dominant seasons we've seen out of a player in a long time and laurie mcelroy and it's kind of ironic because there is an argument argument to be made for rory winning player of the year now know brooks wanted. Both of them were one three times like if you let rory's wiens is nothing to sneeze at count gummy through the players championship in there too the only thing the only thing that's difficult i think for rory's three wins is and not to take anything away from the toward championship but especially this year in the condensed schedule. All everyone talked about that was how exhausted they were so you beat twenty nine exhausted dudes regardless of how good they are. Everybody was exhausted right but i'm saying like it's not like y- you were at your peak and everyone else was at their peak in when i talk to rory he was like i'd be lying if i didn't tell you i was popping tylenol inbetween round yeah yeah i mean but again. It's a level playing field. Everyone's like that true. It's not like sale. It's easier to beat. Twenty nine beat up dudes than one hundred fifty. Six beat beat up dudes one guy. Who's a little fresher yeah but that's the thing that's the thing with the format i mean that's the way it goes down. I mean it's it's a limitation type scenario so you know he was your big takeaway from justin thomas starting with the two you know they got lucky. I'll tell you they got lucky because you know i thought we you know we were pretty critical of the format and and most people works didn't understand it but then when when thomas thomas went out thursday and went even and then kept going at low not low three under and was it can't layer shaw flea got tied type yeah so after the first round three way tie for first and then essentially that was gone so the fact that the p._g._a. Tour in the fedex cup standings standings rebel to be nolan void after the first round that was very very fortunate for the tournament because then all the sudden you had an actual tournament. It could have been horrible. I don't man the i'll tell you what the p._g._a. Tour must have like a rainbow painted horseshoe with unicorns on it or something because does how they dodged such a bullet yeah every single time you remember a couple years ago. When paul casey could have one literally could have won the the fedex cup with a third place finish which would have been made him fedex cup champ without one win in the season and like they just dodged that bullet it was crazy but s you're kinda china. Was we understand going. You know what <hes> tiger woods man. That was awesome right. Yeah a who wanna i know yeah now. You know it wasn't tiger though but i can't believe i'm going to say this but this is actually the best format they've had and it was like that because again like you said they they had good fortune shining lean on them because look at this way rory would have won anyway if it all started if everyone would have started at even par. That's again where the tour has unicorn painted poor shoe. Is that if you went oh yeah but if everyone started at tournament of even yet rory would still won by three shut up existence exist this i it drives. I don't know i know it shouldn't drive me crazy. Put it does how lucky the tour keeps getting. What do you mean eh yeah. Roy was on fire on sunday rory. There was no way everyone starts at even par. Rory shoots thirteen hundred and beat zander's softly by three shot right. Now zander finished tied for second anyway but i don't like doing hypotheticals. I you have to look at like what would have been and could have been as far as format goes because you wanna you wanna be able to compare it. No this format y- is this format perfect no no here's why here's why you you can't. That's the whole basis of this conversation. This worked so well. It's not going anywhere. It works so well this year. What happens next year matter again. That's hypothetical. You can't deal in hypotheticals but you have to deal in life comes this. Here's the perfect example nascar nascar sprint cup. Is your perfect example right there. Why perfect the perfect example is because that is still one of those things these were you like. Hey who's going to win the big thing at the end you but i don't know it's thirty cars racing but only four guys have a chance in the guy who finishes fifth. He gets the big prize. You'll nah not really. Does anyone really care about that. Nope no one really cares about. Why are you you you losing. What i'm saying. Is what i'm saying is like last last year last year. Tiger woods wins the the the tour championship right and it's it's amazing and no one knows that justin austin rose again. So why are you using last year's an example because this year everyone was talking about how it was ni- the ratings were up ninety ninety percent now compared to last year but compared to two years ago and three years ago how the ratings were up so high but there's a combination of reasons why that could've been what i'm comparing this to. Is it still not perfect like yes. It was good but it was good because justin. Thomas didn't shoot six under the first this day like if justin thomas is on and shoot six hundred first day this is over it is done and if georgia does does something different. They beat alabama but they didn't alabama won the s._e._c. Championship won the national championship in over you can't again. There's no no why you keep you know why they made tweaks to the national championship in the way the deform it because they knew it wasn't perfect what he's hustling since when when what tweet from from from jump like when they went from hey man. We're just gonna do from b._c.'s cohen u._s._a. Today and you know what let's go computer in there the computer or know what to do and then the computer is like no now i need a computer can't watch game made they've made one tweak since alabama's beat georgia and they didn't make it made one tweak yes but there's a combination of things that go into it is what i'm saying right like. It's not okay so let me ask you back in the day. I'm asking okay who won the fedex cup the guy who was supposed to roy mack now who were okay is that debatable. What do you mean is it. Debate does dahi one. Did he win. The tournament is what it's not a tournament. He just wanted to fedex cup okay. Did he win at easily win the tour championship. It's there's one event event. That's it. There's no combo on the fedex cup. That's it right is no win. The fedex cup winning to win the tour championship. He won the fedex cup correct okay so there's no debate and it worked it. There's no gray area here it wh- yes it worked this year that he was the guy who shot the lowest score for the week if they all started at zero and he was also the guy who won when they didn't start at zero awesome that's fantastic but it's not always happen that wait legates gray and it happened the first year. That's great that it happened. The first year is not always going to happen that way and look you know about this evening. Who said even you said before that you weren't crazy about calling his playoffs one hundred percent hundred percent and i wasn't wasn't crazy about now be like hey man. It's perfect no it ain't it ain't perfect because it worked out this year that's right. It worked out this year but that doesn't mean you can't make some tweaks to it going forward why it's even better. That's the whole point in this. Are you taking your saying is. Let's wait until something disastrous happened. When i'm saying is in traffic havoc until someone gets hit by a car or we can put a red light up now now now. Let's wait read the okay gimme a red light fix. Just told you a red light which i just told you. The red light is the guy who shoots the lowest score for the week doesn't win. Did that happen or guy like bruce. Kepco who starts. It's the beginning of the play offs in first place ends up finishing nineteenth well again. That's three over on sunday but what i'm saying i understand that all i'm saying is there are still better ways as well or you know what. Here's you wanna fix it completely. It's not the playoffs anymore. It's just the fedex cup what needs to be fixed. This worked famously. You headed dude that one the players i think he finished at the top ten of the masters he did so you're talking about a play and how to fourteenth starts. He had ten top tens and he he had a really nice year awarded for it by winning the last event now in the playoffs if you're the wildcard team. Did you have a really nice year did that. Did you back into the play i did. What has it happened that a wildcard team wins the championship. Yes jason coke wreck. Just win the tour championship that i'm not familiar with no then what's the problem. I just already told i think golf had a remarkable weekend. I think the guy completely agree with you the better you want to change. I just said i agree. That golf had an amazing weekend. Can it be better now have been better and get more people. Can it be better and get more people to tune in you had except no you can't well. Yeah put tiger in it. Thank you but as one when you have there you go. You just made the argument. Let me get this straight. You know what's an awesome ended a season a celebration of the year that doesn't didn't have the masters champion and the open channel aide huma. I'm sorry if you were you didn't you wouldn't you wouldn't want tiger woods too so let me get this straight if you make it to the tour championship you oh you qualify for the masters but if you win the masters you don't get the reciprocation okay. How about larry how you doing if you were a buttoned up in your argument you would have come up with it yourself and have to come up with him. I just did now. You threw me off a series jumping in. Let me ask you let me ask you this. What more more based on the field that we were given i just get n._b._c. have wanted at this field then getting mcelroy and kept on the final apparent on a sunday dustin johnson and what more than more than macaroni and kapka in the final you just said what more could you have gotten. You said what more and i'm telling you the if they could have gotten more. I'm not look. I'm not saying that. Here's what i think you're you're taking this like. I'm saying that this was bad. I'm not saying that it was bad. That's not what i'm saying like. I understand i understand hey yeah also it was great but you know look rory mcilroy and brooks kept in the final group and if if i throw dustin johnson and patrick read in the second last group with can i ask you thomas and like what can i say something dustin johnson. I'd have an opportunity to put himself in. The last group can't not what you asked me. Can he control. That's not what you asked me but he can control that right. That's it's not what you're just catching my crosshairs because i'm sick and tired like this. I can't stand hypothetical when when we have something that's right in front of us and that i think we do in sports all the time instead of taking what happen happen fact data in front of you reality. We always try to you know more something. That's not there or hasn't happened yet when we should you know i just i don't understand look i understand celebrating the moment and it was awesome but our job is also not to look at today yesterday. Our job is to look at today and tomorrow so yes fantastic. It was great. Everything that what happened in the way that it played out worked out perfectly. Can we count on that happening every year. No no no you cannot and that's fine and it's okay that we can't are there things that we can do that might make it a little bit better in the future. Yes that doesn't take anything away from what happened. All ready it does that does giving away from it but it doesn't it doesn't make it bad for us to look forward and go hey next year. You know it'd be awesome saw like why are we making now and i agree. I think the best way to do it was the idea you pick last week. I thought that was a phenomenal idea. I still believe that's a phenomenal middle idea but here the here and now it's not going to change. I just don't like why are we always trying to fix fix. I don't know that we're trying to fix fixes. The wrong word because fix implies that we have something that's broken. This is not necessarily broken again. I agree with you on that again. See again in our we'll find common ground and in finding common ground. I'm saying what we have with the way that the playoffs are are see again playoffs the way that the fedex cup is set up who caught a tournament was gone. We'll just we'll just call it. The fedex cup okay the way the fedex cup the set up. It's not broken and it worked out really good and it was good drama going into the weekend. It was just good drama throughout it was a really great fedex fedex cup from beginning to end. It was really good that being said it's not broken but can it get get better like just be. You look the new england patriots if they go sixteen in one year. Like what an amazing season. Could it get better well yeah. They still lost the game no matter what so there's only one team yeah that's right so every n._f._l. Team no no matter how good you do none of them say man. We're going to keep it exactly how it was not one. I'll i'll give you the analogy you were looking for and this is my problem problem with what's going on right now. In general not just golf we can't always take an instance and reacts to deteriorate the product the example that i will give you is now officials being able to review pass interference calls and let me tell you what's going to happen there. It's going to clear your rate the product because we had one incident we overreact and now we have to just change and change change jane. I don't say it's gonna it. It's not going to deteriorate the product what's going to happen from viewing experience in the stop and then start i i think i think it's going to affect the game. It's gonna affect more than one game. That's what i mean. It's going to be worse. That's what i'm saying so. This is a bad call affected one game. Yes it was one of the biggest games ever but now because of the knee jerk reaction right the knee jerk reaction is going to affect vic more games and that bad call effected and that's what i'm challenging you on. This opinion is a bigger picture because that's just the way it is. It is rather than you know because you look and i know this is the gulf podcast but i would venture to say most people who listen to madison. Academy are also football fans. You watch watch. Michael assures the sun comes up by week three. There is going to be two or three instances a week. Where one like like you said. It's going to change the outcome of a game because we decided one. Play should change the entire league for the rest of the league and you're going to see something happen. Even that wouldn't have been called in the history of football that isn't that egregious and it's gonna ruin game flow and i agree with that but here's the difference the the difference is the knee-jerk reaction was to actually a mistake and something that was wrong and couldn't be fixed. That's the knee egypt reaction that were the pendulum swung way too far the other way and that's always the case where when there's a mistake made instead of just going man. We really messed up really apologize. There's nothing we could have done right. Human error comes into it and it was unfortunate that it happened in this case in such big moment but no we're going to need the reaction to go. We've got to change everything but the difference between that and this is nothing was wrong with what we had nothing. The thing is wrong with the product that we have just like. I just like the analogy that i made. There is nothing wrong with super bowl winning team but just because because there's nothing wrong with the super bowl winning team doesn't mean that they can't get even better. Oh yeah you see that business on the time apple or whichever product you choose they know their apples apple's perfect ones as we got some great stuff raise the price mono they can take by the new stuff they go but they do is they take the the already phenomenal technology and they advance and make it better and do. Does everyone think that it's better no not everybody but you see what i'm saying like. It's okay hey it's okay. If there are some people that would say that would go back to your first argument. There's nothing wrong with doubt i phone to was it was perfect. It was perfect when you're right like you're going to get people that would make that argument all the time but then in the long run you like <hes> you know what i phone x. Still got some bugs but it's predate on good yet. It was perfect until they give the new software released that makes your other one obsolete. They can see. That's that's that. Isn't that the most annoying wayne thing. The software released out. You're like oh well. That's like that's like that's. That's very similar to the p._g._a. Tour saying hey man great year did you did narrow mind. Were so hey go. Don't worry about what you did before well. We're gonna go. We would agree that the fedex cup whatever the fedex cup would agree. That's been kind of a hot button topic since its inception. She's i still notably. Anyone understands what it is. You know what and you know what ironically this is. The one year everyone's understood what it was might as the whole ten under eight nine eight hundred thing and minus the fact that a lot of people are like hey what time does tiger tee off but see. That's what i mean. Little tweaks like that like come on man if you're the masters champion seriously if you're the open champion and like that's one hundred percent with the nine hundred percent like you're gonna major urine yeah. If you wanna major come on man. That's what this year. That would have been two guys. It would have been sixteen twosomes. Oh my gosh which here's the pivot you. No no no one bitched about this week. What slow play you know why those smaller field and because they played in three hours and twenty six minutes on on sunday on saturday they are on friday after the round on thursday they bush ti- times up an hour like forward because because they played too fast way before t._v. was field less delays yet this brazen de shimpo in the field like he was one of the guys playing fast to everybody playing the same thing. That's why i'm telling you that whole slow plating was such fake outrage aged. It's joe well. We're not going to go now to go back there. I just need to bring that point. I'll tell you again. No one said a thing about slow like you. You know this is an issue that has to be fixed the commissioner gotta do some and if you want to know why nothing gets done it's because of weeks like this because no wind soft golf course everybody everybody go low shown they fly around the golf course bryce nelson that he was gonna do himself to. He was gonna do whatever he could to try to correct that. He's look look you're right. It was different but he even admitted that like i'm going to do what i can and try to speed things up by. He's not gonna take two minutes on the puck and for you know just heads up bryce and finished not twelve made himself a check for six hundred eighty two thousand five hundred. It's good money. Hey there's good money last macworld roy mcelroy not great in the majors. He won the players he was which isn't a major. We'll get a knot tied for twenty first in a masters not great at aw p._g._a. Championship t._a. U._s. open t nine open championship missed the cut so he did what he had to do. Statistically one of the best players on tour. I'm not going to change my. I you know me. I was always at the height of his powers. He's the best player in the planet. You still feel that way. Why remember back off that with cameras now going back because i know someone who did. I would have friends did what you did back off and then he wins and now he's like. Hey told you rowers the man of boy here. We go no but i do. I will say that you saw what i saw at the height of his powers he'll beat anybody doesn't mean i mean if you have brooks in him at the height of their powers. Let's see yeah. Go careful here. We'll try to here. I can't because i just i don't i love that. Rory committed look brooks kicked. This rory's words quote brooks kick my ass in memphis yeah during the w._g._c. and he was happy a return favor and i love the fact that rory i don't you don't necessarily have to say he threw shade but let's say what he said. Basically laid a gauntlet down and gave brooke some bulletin board material for the gym when rory said i envision playing like i played played against brooks many more times in the future which is like saying the more times than not with me and you go toe to toe. I'm gonna take thank you out like i love that yeah yeah. That's good for golf because i i like villains and i like him. Brooks had developed the villain role for and while. I was more stunned than a guy that we see show up in big spots brooks was all over the course on sunday day yeah. His driver will saturday to rise mia. He had a two-way miss going. That's what's crazy and on the seventh when he hooked hooked it left and it went into the trees and behind those trees with the cameras didn't show you is the maintenance area and the ball went went through the because i was following him and the ball went through all these heavy leaves there and you could tell it didn't make that loud sound like would so that surprised me more in editing because you're just like <hes> dude. He's going to be in an sunday mode. He's gonna be robot kept and he's gonna he's gonna me. We're going to watch this to the end and then you know the double bogey where he lost his ball. I mean they were just weird stuff. Like how is this happening so oh again at that's the last bit of championship golf we get in terms of top to bottom starpower you know i i like the way that ended. Napa probably roy mcelroy who statistically has been better than everybody else on tour this year winning congratulations to him was important to him to win the varden which ages the scoring title. It look bad. I mean he again for a guy. That really didn't show up in the majors. Do what he did is incredible. I i want want to wish you happy. Anniversary what twenty three years ago today tiger had his press conference at the greater milwaukee walkie open one thousand nine hundred ninety six and gave us the hello world one eight three years ago today. It's been that long when he three years and now he goes and gets me research there you go. He gets arthroscopic. Which now surgery for tiger has become an oil change every three thousand miles. I just go in the oil. Leuven filter gives us the cleaned up going to the dentist like hey just hit leaning pop something just having a look around. You might check that out there. Just pop the hood real quick they go. Hey you synthetic or you want. The old school oil really wanting in wales scoring three thousand. We're good whenever you know tiger. I mean he's going to play in japan an and october. I had some loose cartilage and in terms of look. That's the other thing i said this morning that by tiger standards when you've had that many back surgeries and you've used your back together cleaning out cartilage we were joking around and you know they always say no surgeries minor but claimed it out cartilage and a lil exploratory scope for him. It is going to the dentist and having your wisdom teeth pulled yeah it it. It's short seems like that at least what tiger nowadays days but the funny thing too that had to be bothered him for a while and even after all of this time even after all of this time time you couldn't say nothing like don't tell me that you need wasn't bothering you during the three playoff events wanna wanna which w._b._z. m._o. Though but i don't understand what like i don't understand why you don't say anything to people like that because because now the now when you have a procedure like this and you like. I'm already walking again. Well well wait a minute. You're going to not not only. Are you supposed to play in dozo which is teddy. Whatever what's that which he said he's still he's still will but he's he keeps leaving out the part that he's playing in net little skins game free money event like that's the one we get the super paid of parents fee by getting a big old check and it just oh oh by the way happens to be at the same golf course a couple of days before the tournament star. What an amazing coincidence because you wouldn't be allowed to do it the week of the tournament. That's a no no on the p._g. Like come on man. Stop talking to me like i'm four years old like we get it all right. There are ways around the appearance fee. Knock it off but at least come out and say i hope to be good to go from skins showdown with rory which is at the same place as zo but i think now could that potentially be in jeopardy yeah potentially. It could be things like that a quick though i mean it's it's august twenty eighth eighth not for that guy no not for him and who knows what club again but i'm not here's the deal and i've been consistent with this since day. One wake me the <hes> in march with tiger. Wake me up with the players. You know wake me up when there's tangible gulf being played when major championship season comes around around with him his off season going to be so much about rest rehab and recuperation for me. 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I've never even been to that. I've never been to that facility. You gotta see it look into paying. I've been to p. g. I've been to one of you've been to well it used nike doesn't have it anymore but i've been to the old nike one but have never been too tight list or taylor mays yeah. I've been to nike back at the donovan west of fort worth. I did something yeah yeah but the title is facility. It is absolutely incredible so shout out to brett garrett who is out there. It was was in the middle of nowhere when you go to the testing facility. I'm driving down this neighborhood and the kids there were kids waiting out for the boss with their moms right and i'm driving and when i got the address from them to go out there for the fitting like others not a number just manchester lane you'll see like what are they talking about nervous. At first you know this setup man to get out deb's funny. You say that because then i make my left down manchester lane like they say to right right that manchester lane and i'm going down this neighborhood street and there's abandoned buildings and in all of this what is going on this is a hard or movie starts right and my the tat. I'm approaching where they say. I should be on the g._p._s. and still nothing trees and like oh my god where the hell out of nowhere at the end of a street. It's it's like there's there's like a spotlight of god's son on some of the greenest grass brass you'll ever see you feel like you should be making that twinkling noise like i feel like i needed music and everything needed to be in slow motion. 'cause everything's bad as so we did. We did the fitting. The facility is phenomenal. The short game area they had actually installed this a funny story so at the range edge where they do the fittings for people you know they used to do them for all of their clients will tiger being other clients back in the day he would hit the ball so so far he would hit it into the trees out in the forest and they could never get an accurate reading on anything because the ball would go would and so they had to build him his own teebox probably a hundred fifty to two yards back from the driving range so he could hit balls also the driver to get an idea of what it was you know distance was doing for them and so i mean there mega it is pristine and so i had that experience going into the fitting facility and the testing facility from there eric. They took me over to the <music> ball plant three facility in new bedford mass now if you don't know this fall plant three three yeah now. Everybody knows like we'll be honest. I am i'll be the first one to say i am a golf ball somewhat of a golf ball snob and so bad to the fact where when i was caddying for omar you arrest the he was a callaway guy and i still went to titles trailer and was like hey can. I get some golf ball and you know what i would not play golfie were played you need based on what i saw on how they are as meticulous as i've ever seen about making taking every body the exact same the great part about this first of all. I got to go up to this place into a video food for us. Well dot com and if you you that's what i was gonna talk about here in a minute with with the videos but if you go and you like no one i didn't know that every ball made in the world minus japan in korea every ball tyler's ball made in the world is made of this facility in new bedford massachusetts. Everyone that's crazy the production of them over three hundred thousand a day and i learned so much an unfavorable number will win. When you see just like you would think at three hundred thousand one of what that looks like oh i i saw i mean they have bins. We were walking by bins of pro v. ones and where they had just finished production and there were nine thousand of them just in a ben and then you know you when you go on this tour by the way i do want to put this is out for patron. You can take free tours now. If you're gonna title dot com they have now open it up for people to take tours. They do them mondays to friday so yeah go tytler dot com small groups but it's worth it. If you're in the area to come see the so titlis dot com and a hook you up with a place to work with the idea of when you can get your tour so i learned so much about d- tireless the company and i do wanna share a couple of things with the patriots have a better idea of the company right so philip young. He founded title list okay you. I wanna know why he found a tide list no because he was playing golf back in the early thirties and he when he would be putting in hitting the ball he was like something just it doesn't feel right the way that the ball's moving. I'm a pretty decent putter a pretty accurate putter the balls just swaying a little left the balls just swain older right what is going on back in the thirties so he so he goes to his buddy who was a local doctor and he goes hey. I'm convinced something's wrong with my ball. Can we go x ray this ball at your office shut so i can see the thirties yes so i can see what's is going on. They x ray the ball and sure enough. He proved that the core of the ball was off center wa <hes> so what he did was he's yet so he made it his goal in life to get the right core rubber everything perfect to where it is always in the center. Every single one is in the center. They still have x-ray x-ray technology at the plant to make sure that each and every ball is made with the corn the center. That's crazy now. The one thing i did know about tyler's that i found out a couple of years ago when i was at the the <hes> p._g._a. Tour show in orlando merchandise show <hes> on there. Ah think it was the seventy th seventy fifth anniversary on tour the titlis reps used to wear white coats yes yep and that's how they would get recognized and then each tour pro. If you were a titleist pro you would get these chips so oh you would take your chip over to the white coat and they would give you your titlis for the week and they had then the practice ones and the game ones as well. Oh like they had everything which is crazy. I mean their process of how they make their so meticulous with it my favorite story korea today. Though was a woman named helen robinson. She worked for the executives at around nineteen eighteen thirty five. She was a secretary for them and so they go up to her and they were looking for a logo for title list. They gave her a piece of paper because she had beautiful penmanship and they said hey can you write the word titleist and the way that she wrote wrote. The word title est on a piece of paper because she had such good penmanship became the title logo in nineteen thirty five that we see she today so kids learn how to write cursive because you never know. I'm telling you like that's awesome. You don't realize and when you're going through this plant this ball plant and you see speech has been there. Adam scott showed up. He's a title lifer. He showed up his green jacket after he won the master's to. Thank everybody in going the tour but when you see and i'm telling you i've always been one of those the people as like. I'm not good enough. It doesn't matter what kind of ball you use when you get into the science of the ball it is absolutely lutely mind-blowing the science and scientists that take the effort and time to put into <hes> golf ball and they're making three hundred thousand of them. They have people that have worked at this factory for fifty plus years see made you know ah geek out on stuff like this. I will kind of history stuff any kind of stuff. That's historic. Those county like same with guinness same the bushmills feels like with the whisky and the guinness with the guinness like all this kind a historical stuff and with titles haven't been around for so long. I would so so you will love there. You would absolutely love it and i kept i said afterwards. I'm like man losing golf balls before but now i'm gonna get. I lose one of your balls because i saw everything that went into making one of them right yeah the other thing about stuff like that too when you realize you go hold on in our tight for that price. Are they really that much better and then you see the science behind. Everything and you're like yeah. They're kinda. Actually elite kind are kinda better so i would implore anyone listening or michael. When you're up in this area again we have go back up there because it has been apps it was it was mind blowing everything that goes into making a golf ball but indirectly. I taught taught us something that i would like you to bear witness to that. While yesterday for me was one of the best golf as i've had in my life going to the fitting facility facility and then going to the golf ball plant the ball plant three while i was doing that not only was i thinking about me and the experience i was actually thinking of the show because in my instagram story i mentioned batting mcadoo everyone so that i could share it with the patrons on matting the caddy so i just you know what i was getting a once in a lifetime. I'm not teaching experience but it sounded more like a bragging but but when i did that's what i did was you are. I just wanted to let you know that. I thought about everyone else other than myself. Something often meeting off saying. I've thought this was a teaching experience where there was nothing humble about there bragg bragg. It was more of like brag yeah. That's a brag. Look what i do and what you don't do. Look how awesome the now look how selfish you are and how awesome i see. What i think you could do is when you're like. You know you're palling around with all your celebrity buddies that you don't get on the podcast is leased which you could do is share the videos with the patriots on matting caddy you know and help grow the show but that's just i choose to handle at just my thing okay well. You know what the next time that i'm up there yeah. I'll do that too then just for that moment that the story that they've already seen. I'm already shared it with the patron. How about this because the week that we are going going to be out at the junior p._g._a. Championship y'all can't wait for two days previous up. I gotta go out there early because p._x. It's g is having an event exxon. Do they know that you traded them in. I didn't treat them in. You went on this here program and said you were making the club switch. I said i i changed. Clubs up changed my clubs. Yes did did change. I still got him on. You know what i meant like but it's like you know what it's like when you when you bench your putter which by the way i just did see i'm i'm all title is another title this thing this this is something another one that i wanna do actually talked to him about scotty cameron yeah just because you work at titlis does not get you into the scotty. Cameron area korea correct like scotty cameron is willie wonka of tied list by his stuff is so secretive. Even title is people can't get in there which is funny and i said hey. Let's do something fun where you get locked out of your own place and we got a break in and he was like yes. That would be hilarious. 'cause <unk> actually could happen where he could get locked facility and would have to lose no but you're right about possible you go when you go to this fitting and facility you see literally every style of shaft club had club series driver vocals vocals everything and then you have to go to a certain area. We're looking at the grips. I'm gonna get there's a back area where there's a whole foot joyce action of which titlis list owns yup and the shoes were back there but then tucked in that little cove there may or may not have been a couple of scotty cameron putters hanging around yeah and the wedge places places different too. 'cause that's right it. So i'm telling you man i over golf equipment to begin with yeah inert out over over the ins and outs of how the business in the industry is run. You know anybody can go and book fitting at this facility. Anybody can you do that and the tour of the ball plant might use nerdy as you can be about some things you could sit in there. It's a ninety minute it thing and that he long enough. I mean they make the sheet of rubber that they i mean. You wouldn't little things that you like no right yeah yeah so it see that's awesome. Well okay but what i'm promising is that when i go <music> out for this 'cause you're not gonna believe what's coming out right when i go out for this p._x. Jeep thing <hes> to see this new. Whatever whatever i i will do a story in k. and what i'm allowed to put out at the time because i know some of this stuff is embargoed from what i've been told but i will do all the stories stuff on instagram tagging matty in the caddy. Thank you a year and a half in being a team player. I love you for it but i've been doing it now. Since the last time we talked about it remember our last matty in the caddy will call it the in counseling pocket since then. I have been very good about sharing stuff on madina caddy stuff that would pertain to our podcast. I've been good. You know. We're all just trying to grow. We're trying to be trying to grow the show yeah you gotta. Tell your friends because if we don't grow the show they're gonna pull the plug. No no we get that got me. We're doing our thing. You were hitting a good stride like this. Is this wheel made. The first turn didn't even own the baxter me. We're just at the halfway house. I'm just as as we said the season like we could say hey the season's over. Well kind of don't forget this week korn ferry tour championship. Would you call the tour championship. Twenty-five championship so twenty five guys who played on the and webb dot com slash korn ferry tour because it became korn ferry this year twenty five guys already got their card twenty. Five more guys is will have their cards sunday night and that'll be the fifty guys they get their card from the korn ferry tour. 'cause you have these the they. We have a three playoff event as well so a guy like victor. Havi lynn has pretty much locked up his card bo hustler close to lock doc in his car. What a couple of buddies. One buddy of mine who i really is close is joseph bramlett who great comeback story who also had some serious health issues and went away for. I don't know two or three years. He's got a chance. I love seeing getting your card back some of the guys i know our boy bo oh hustler went down for a bit to try to get it that way he. He looks like he's getting it yeah he did. He tweeted. I think he tweeted got card to go yeah so there's good stories down in the korn ferry to do you know what korn ferry is by the way i have no i i know number. One corn is spelled like the heavy metal group to shock crocker up yeah yeah because i just looked it up because i really wanted to know right. It varies a global organizational consulting firm synchronizing strategy and talent to drive superior carrier performance for our clients. You know what that means. They make nothing manufacture. Nothing anything cross them off the potential potential sponsor list wait. I'm not saying what you do is an important. I'm not saying that you don't have something very valuable to all kinds of people out there. All i'm saying is they. Don't make an blackberry and see what you make year no because we don't have a factory cool. There's plenty of look banks. Don't make anything yet. They don't the money no banks. Don't make it they just hold it. Mints make money see aware. Thank you now trying to get me in trouble. I'll you throw on saturday. That was carried by the way if i need if i need to if i need professional console even synchronizing strategy and talented dry superior performance. You're my people <hes> for the second consecutive year getting executive year collins drafted the worst fantasy team. What's in the league. We and our fantasy draft last night. We had a legal twelve of us here at e._s._p._n. Nice van fantasy draft on when i actually have have to do a show. I'm not thinking of you when i schedule things exactly because you wait how my draft bed. I'm you're going to go over your school. Since all of these other knuckleheads went straight chalk utah all everyone did was it was basically everyone else just just went. Who's the highest rated player out. You give me that one yeah that will give me that was the reason they're rated that high. Okay yeah wait a minute. This is from the same dude who earlier in this podcast is like why is it good to be a change. You can't like dat hat is the hat. Is that kiss. How does that apply to this. I mean this jump but it's a dot to connect here you by jump. It's like grand canyon that far of a leap. I'm just saying look. It's so easy to just go chalk 'cause you would've wanted it was like you know hey hates now and if we're looking towards the future who cares what to do did last year like it's nice what they did last year guarantee no their orbits for next year. The rankings are based on projections season are based on what projections this season right so they did what so far not playing yeah yeah. They do so far not playing games. I know what you're trying to walk into. I don't have to walk you in their semi. It's based on projections are projected rejected the powerball on thursday because they haven't played any dame's you dope. They go with powerball on friday because they haven't had the drawing it okay so absurd. Your team is awful. No it's not my look at least this time. I knew how to set up auto draft. So if i missed the pick doc the person that i would. I would get which i did this year. I think you have three good players. What three does shawn watson nick job michael thomas those year three best players okay derrick henry like don't love. It's degrading p._r. You went homer without sean jeffrey not homer. He was the highest at the time name. When it was my turn to draft. He was the highest rated receiver out there. That's funny. Yes you just went chalk but no no you don't get to they. Call me a homer when the highest rated receiver. Was that guy like. It's not like i was like he was seven down the list and i picked him because he's the eagle jazz sean jackson are are made on our boy jackson. Who's filling in producing the podcast say he's literally in the other side of the room laughing athene because he knows that this is a fight. They'd stop it. If we were opposing lawyers your client would be found so guilty. They'd kill him twice. You are a a walking contradiction near. If we were opposing lawyers you would have already been locked up for contempt in the first seven minutes very eh. I would be standing there alone in the courtroom looking at an empty table across because my opponent would be locked up for compound the court yeah you caught me to say i know i know i already know you would have been ripping. The judge been like really you're navy blue you you were navy blue robe sir ma'am they sick and we always say your honor and be like hot really <hes> hey man. I lua a holiday when they tell me how much bail you need. Yes absurd all right so your fantasy team stinks but y- in here i will say that here's what i did with mine and i thought you the whole time because every other year fourth pick is a gold mine because you're going to get one of the top running backs well. One of the top running backs hasn't signed a contract yet. He's hanging out in kabo and i wasn't touching zeke because the whole time i'm thanking you can't drag leon amihai bell because i gave collins crap for an entire year for taking levian bill. I was going to say right. You gave me a farm full of manure all you the year i pretty much only because because i was i thought and listen to all the pundits like this year with zeke is like it's hold. I'll be two games at the most. It'd be two two games at the most and now looking like this is not going to be two games. My favorite thing that they're saying which is why i purposely stayed away from zeke like oh always working out and staying in shape down kabo. You know why you go down to kabo. Not jailed stays shape yeah. That's yeah you're right. You're right. He'll show up in the best shape shape of his career. After moonlighting and kabo for pat perez says that's high altitude alcohol training. I mean it's ridiculous. What are you working out a forearms. I'm just a doing curls with margaritas. Here's he just working on my latest pacifico curl. Can you put thrown so. I will tell you what else you got going on this week with my first pick. I took the andre hopkins v. It's points per reception league p._r. So i had to go with the like the number one player some position because it wasn't taken zeke tomorrow thursday. I start my college football <music> gig. We have a double-header thursday on e._s._p._n. May do <unk> galloway jesse palmer a friday. We have a double-header and then saturday it all starts it's week one by france will be good one so excited. I can't wait. I'm excited for the week to start which again is. We're going to be doing this on wednesdays because right. I'll be coming back in wednesday morning for sports centres. We know that we have a locked in time every week. The pomp this thing out and hopefully give you more litigation the thank thank god. We're not lawyers but see this gives me time now to our coma instagram game. I'll be watching the korn ferry final and i'll be doing some research on all the stuff that they offer. They're now. They're not offering you. If you need now actually hewitt mean i gotta i gotta get something from them and i gotta pay full price for because you just messed it up fell me under the bus like let me say that. If you need synchronized strategy in town to drive your superior performance you're not getting it from then who knows maybe they can help me with the instagram thing. You'll know i say now give back in jail cell contempt of court but the other thing that i'm going to get to this weekend and the reason at the beginning wise had to whisper my name was my tax stamp came back your what see y'all know nothing about that but people that do know when your tax debt comes back now get to go spend some time at the range things get quite. What does that mean what does it. What have we got weird. No no tax step is is amazing. You get your silencers. I i see so. I got my silencers. You take video of that yeah all right. I got three of them yeah. Oh you're the guy that's in a neighborhood like block party that when no-no apocalypse come oh yeah get to my house get to my house uh-huh even hey look my ten year old bray ma ten year old can help protect you. One of them is for him. Yeah we'll cueva. He's fantastic with the braves fantastic tastic oh from last week. We're gonna pay it off. How'd you sunday. You made the trip from atlanta to gainesville for the first game who started running back at last week toward championship damage ship <hes>. I didn't have to have my sportscenter duties on thursday because my twelve year old had his first football game middle school he was starting running back saw surprised him. I drove five and a half hours down. It was awesome. He sees me. He runs over and as a twelve year old boy. Who's hitting puberty like your dad's not cool anymore. He's kinda like doughnut in his dumb. I get a big giant hug from him and he's like oh my gosh. I'm so glad you're here. Thanks for coming. I'm in and i'm like of course man. I'm not gonna miss your first game and i knew how much it meant to them. Which was that moment was worth five and a half hour drive anyway he gets in and he gets the first hand off of the game. I play the game takes it. Nigh yards eight to nine yards looks fantastic. Hey yeah yeah yeah second play. The game runs an off tackle cuts back. A little bit doesn't quite get back to the line of scrimmage but still not too bad. This eight man football that they're playing jumps up goes over to the sideline and about five or six minutes later. I'm like why this is still not back in the game and i'm looking around and i see him over the sideline shoe off sock off to plays sprained ankle which now we found out two days ago after getting an x-ray on monday because his foot was still bothering him that it look like broke his growth plate. What's in the foot yes so he's in an air cast for three weeks. Oh man and a half hours one way to see to place and then i i had to drive five and a half hours back a got up there like three o'clock in the morning wanting broke his wrist not yet this so here his twelve year olds it's football career so far amazing sportscenter worthy interception on the last game last year now breaks the wrist going going down to the ground second play of the second season play football breaks the growth plate in his foot and is going to be an the erica's for three weeks so dial up a man's got character though breaking bones what he did tell his mom what's that i don't know how much longer my football career is going to land andrew luck out there and telling me bad. He is mad right so this has been a goal fantasy football football all podcast. We span the globe next week. We'll get into politics and it's gonna be great fram. Don't even think thank avowed. Here's he wanted to do though starting next week. I think you and i should do weekly picks against the spread in either n._f._l. Or college it just has some fun with it yeah. I'm cool with that. They want to eat. Let's pick a college game in a program so we'll do that starting yeah because the n._f._l. Starts next week so we'll do one of each against the we're going to do any odd numbers and we'll do. We'll do one week will do to college one n._f._l. Next week we'll do class to get that started. <hes> it's the best time of the year. We're going to start doing some off-season. Conversation suggests whatnot <hes> so looking forward to it. I hope everyone enjoys the finals super three months at least up here up in the north east of golf season and look. We're going to me here for you every week. What we're gonna do what we find homey love. You have a good weekend and our next week to at mattie kenny g. to either award and the joy the week hockey and thanks for listening to madyan academy checkout akao the more great e._s._p._n. 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"Oh Look at Boston. We'll Tom and look at. This stuff that they probably some of it's like. Such. and. Stuff like that is what we need. People. Turns Goal Nice to be your boys congratulations on all that you're doing as. Mediocre as it is at the LACI this year I'm very much thinking getting. So I don't. Get that people together. Thank you. Brag. Butter knife my wed.. Newer younger him or. Barstool sports tigers had three back surgeries. He's had one fusion we welcome in from. Barstool sports rigs, and Trent guys welcome to the show or play. Sports Twenty Twenty PGA Tour Season Against Jazz Nineteen Thousand and twenty season is officially over weird because I would say there's as much excitement as there's been all season long because now we're just in US Open. Boat, we've been talking. Behind the scenes about our video, talking in front of the scenes about our videos about our US Open coverage about wait foot about the carnage, how it's going to fucking destroy these guys. So exciting levels incredibly high the masters in two months the season's just over. So the whole thing's bizarre DJ cleaned up he went a second not with Tiber. Second win by million second and it went so clearly far and away the best player in the world right now I, think we got to talk about on that. Front. Gentlemen Happy Labor Day Labor Day. So Jabber Labor's out there. Happy Happy Labor Day but now you're GonNa be here on this day afterwards. Happy Labor Day DJ make nineteen million dollars in six weeks. Map I went back and I looked at the leaderboards and I wanted to add up how much it was like knew it was going to be a crazy amount and it comes out to it's a little under nineteen, eighteen, million, seven, hundred, thousand whatever I decided around up for DJ. So nineteen million dollars in the last month and a half, it's it's just a lot of money man I was. Trying to get past the percentage of people like obviously he's GonNa make more than ninety nine point nine percent of people like in their lifetimes I was trying to figure out businesses like if you took like small businesses like what percent of businesses won't make that a year let alone people just how much like he? He's probably in the ninetieth percentile for businesses issue. Year Yeah. Probably. We'll make that. So you're taking businesses in general I mean he he makes what's the I wonder what the average revenue is per like small business in the country. There's no nineteen million, not even close I mean all those fucking companies going shark tank what you're you're like revenue for the last two years. There are like a hundred and fifty grand G in Nigeria million there there's a lot of reasons why I'm like not doesn't Johnson. But if I were him right now, I, would walk away I'd be like I. Think I'm done these. Tackling that nineteen to the other like sixty, five, million that he's made the past he's sitting on a cool eighty, four million like that's it. You don't you're thirty, six years old you've done it all you gotTa fedexcup Ninety got a major. You got a ton of wins on the PGA tour. Group. Improve did you see if the end like Panda Paulina and she was like I'm so proud of you she liked. Listen I bet you are. Walking off with a quick fifteen million he's not a great life. He's got a great life. It's it is. It's funny that the cycles that we've gone through a and really you could say that this cycle in what I'm referring to is sort of like. The next best player or the current best player, and that has been reflected in the world ranking in terms of shuffling from WHO's the current number one ranked player in the world. But it's very bizarre because for you know fifteen years straight, it was just one person was clearly the best player and now we've kind of been like, Oh, on their a game is Dustin Johnson the best is just In Thomas the best is Roy mcelroy. The best is Jordan's beat the best and I. I was kind of in imagined recency bias to a degree, but with thirty under, and then even with coming back on a really difficult US Open type setup and getting into a playoff with Jon Rahm, who's one of the greats of this generation and then coming out and winning tour championship the fact that He. Has One US Open before so we know he has that pedigree the fact that he hits the ball a mile and hit dead straight. The fact that he's such a cool customer I think that we're finally in a spot for the first time in several years where it's like there's clearly a guy who's a game is just better than anybody else's and I doubt that anybody here would disagree with that. Yeah. You bring up a good point where I'm glad that my favorite part about this recent Dj district is that we do have an answer to that now like this clearly isn't GonNa. Last forever that it's just not sustainable otherwise, he'd be the best of all time if he kept doing this, but we can look back. We now have a point where we can say this is where Dj was at his best and he almost won four tournaments in a row and he was thirty under a CBC Boston like it's nice to have like a piece of that argument where you can point to and be like what is Dj, like is best like all. We know what it looks like it happened at this time and he fucking was an absolute fire-breathing dragon on the golf course. fire-breathing dragon you know who else is a game is better anybody else's barstool transfusion by islands. That's just I think everybody knows out seeing it all over instagram people tagging US left and right. If you haven't figured out yet I got very simple easy answer for you. 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They get owens for creating our favorite drink, and thank you to US reporting our brand on it, and thank you to you the listeners for consuming it because you're gonNA love it owens mixtures, dot com stored up our sports, dot com go get the russian-speaking by oats where the hell are you right now rigs you look like you're like the at the unabomber's cabin or something. That's what you went with the unabomber's cabin. You're in the middle of nowhere. I'm in? Colorado. My. Separate Four my my folks moved out here Kind of retired stage of their life that my outdoorsman we've gone through that before it adds like a mountain man he loves to go on crazy excursions, hikes and shit, and so they beg a place they moved to Colorado a couple years ago, and so we got a little Labor Day family time spent a Lotta time with my nephew him in the creek I will say like three and a half year old. Kid getting them in a creek and outdoor as much as we're glued to our phones and technology. It's such a reminder of how just being like we eat just throws a pinecone into the stream and it goes through a little mini waterfall and he just goes. The. Greatest of all time. So it's just adorable to watch. but out in Colorado. I enjoy Colorado many good times in Colorado I like the fact that like when you step out of your. or You drive on just regular parkway highway out there the mountains are just it looks like a postcard no matter where you're at crazy I've often said that Colorado is the is the state, all fifty of them it's the best one. It's hard to say negative things about Colorado Colorado's it's gorgeous. The air is just fresher. Chris Bobby a lot of that probably the elevation, but it's crested is tough to get air. If you struggle in Colorado, she's kind of tough to get that air and get it to all the different parts of your body. I think a lot of triathletes train in Colorado Oh actually. Your blood tends to sick leave or captured syrup is also altitudes. So you know in the tri world so to speak Try World. Hundred. Shit on me for one thing, I'm gonNA. Just. Down Pat Myself on the back for not. Not In your triathlon world you just. Clydesdale in the sprint division. One I'll tell you this here in. Colorado. So word like boulder and there's a they're Kinda like ten minutes from downtown a little bit like up into the mountains and these little mountain roads the cyclists on these fucking roads in the morning you see them going up and they're just they're just hung right there huck in is hard as they can and going like half mile an hour, but it's it's understand we're going fucking mountain, and then later in the day or second half of the morning, they just come ripping down going like sixty mile an hour on these little tiny bikes with all these turns. It's amazing how ballsy these people are and how fast they're going and I guess to lurches. Point. Earlier since he's part of a dry community. This altitude is just perfect for trading. So all of the best cyclists, all the Tour de France teams no matter where in the world, they are a lot of them come to this part of the world to train because it's like the best altitude elevation Combo in the world. So they're fucking everywhere. It's actually very annoying. Exactly. I'm familiar I know that world. Br shedding light on that world because. Such high octane athlete. I'm trying to figure out this goddamn camera on right now I no matter what I do no matter what little tricks are. Kind of. Like A it's interesting me so. Let me not this pageant Labor Day we you. Know Bro you're by people are going to build the cities obviously your box next to lurch box right now it is. It's different there. That's two different two different things different species you can't be that yeah, you're doing something. Stupid. For some reason whatever's going on with your camera, you look, Amer, situations through. I wouldn't hate actually dealing a route. Sprint triathlon risks I couldn't care less about doing is or than me I think it'd be so funny. I, don't think I would be the run is a I choose not to race. Just like, Oh, you're. Sick. I don't. I lay triathlons like you can. You can swim in the water more than. Like A. Long bubble. I can just talk and lay in bed all day and like go golfing on the weekends and that's I don't need to do I don't need to go jump off. Frankie, Frankie, speaking of kind of your knowledge on this sort of outdoor activity and the The story of what you thought fly fishing was comes up when I'm in the car situation with my family just the story of you describing what you thought fly-fishing was comes up all of that. Well, I. was. I got Well I. Thought Fly Fishing was like when you go down these crazy creeks, where in which those fish come fucking flying out of the water and jump in and the guys stand there and they catch him in those little fucking like with a net, the net thought I thought you. Air. Like they fly through the air and catch them and that's that's what bears due to. There is a thing which people do what I'm saying and I don't know what the name of that is. I thought that would be called fly fishing because these fish fly out of the water into your boat. There's a video that people after we had that initial argument or debate sunset me like I can't believe that this isn't called fly fishing there legitimately flying through the creek and just dumping themselves in the boat. Yeah I'm not gonNA knock that logic although i. do love that you didn't know what it was and that's what you Bob and I. It makes sense they I mean how do you how? A river runs through a Bronco you never need water. What's going on here? I haven't had water all now rigs are you fly fishing? Did you find this today because that's a very relaxing time? Now. There's a there's a fly fishing trip tomorrow with my all my dad and my brother, but I'm not gonNA go. It's all day thing I said I gotta work. So unfortunately, I can't go I'm also of the three I'm by far release fisherman any of of the crew. Also, kind of you guys know but rigs, his dad is like a beast outdoors. I mean he he's got to be ranked in the top. Ten Th percentile in the world of just like he did a outdoor. He did a four eighty, a four week excursion to Siberia, and in that, you have to sign something where if you get injured during the hike, it's so remote and so life threatening that if get injured during the hike, the group has your permission to leave you behind. So you don't kill someone else by requiring the group to like stay behind my dad's house. You'll never know when you talk to them. You're like, Mike, you're the toughest MANOHLA. Trains like in the in the midwest heat in the humidity in the middle of the summer, you'll see my dad out there and the local park of the kids are playing soccer and and run around cones and stuff. My Dad's running with a backpack full awaits and talk as much. Down ills. Holy Shit Man Yeah it's not seven amazing. I can't imagine a local rumors of a kids running around cone. Of what they say about back Ono that's the guy that does this is that you know ever snake here and. I can't imagine what those rumors. He's got I was put this. I'll get this one photo but he's got a photo of him standing in a creek in I, think it's inside Syria and he's fly fishing and on the other bank of this like large creeks probably fifteen yards away is a giant grizzly bear also fishing on the other shot. Oh My. Wat-. I can't even like relate to in the slightest I don't even know how someone could go out and do that. On his on his Siberian trip. He was there get about four weeks I think it was like a week of it was travel. So he was out in the wild for about three weeks. Guess how many bears he saw in three weeks? I don't even know what a realistic no no. I don't know where to start. I don't know. If teen bears okay. I would say, if you saw anything over fifteen to be outrageous number lace, they saw eighty two. Yes. Too many bears. It's a lot of course to the point where they at night with their camp they go with a crew of like eight to ten people on a couple of guides. They had multiple times they have to stand around in a circle of bang pots, pans, scare the bears off. So they don't come into their care but might stuff. All right. What about? That's enjoyable. That's what I was. Just GonNa say going to say all due respect to everybody that does that you are a much stronger and better man than I with the one question I have is what? Lives for the struggle. That's what he says when he's he says like when I wake up and it's blistering cold and there's a little rain and wind and you after like as a as a as natural human as you can. You gotTA battle with the elements and catch some fish to survive. He's like I fucking live for that so. There's is loves it. There's a video going viral on twitter right now, if you guys saw of the Guy Surfing that one hundred, fifteen foot wave and it's one of the most incredible videos I've ever seen and I quote to it and I said if this is true like I, get my stomach it's a little queasy if I'm in an elevator and like drops too many floors too quickly as like. Didn't like that and there's people there serving hundred fifteen foot waves. You got rigs, his dad fishing with grizzly bears. It's just a whole different world. It's weird when I go out to do they have like a no A. A No presence policy notes human presence. So they literally Bernard to they use toilet paper, they use they burn it, and then like they're not allowed to create a fire ring because there's essentially when you leave, there's not supposed to be any clue or any evidence whatsoever outside of footprints will be washed away that humans were there. It's fucking. So no trace that'd be. Crazy it's absolutely wild anyways golf. My Dad thinks things. I wanted to ask you that as well like your dad's says, I'm going to Siberia for six months and you're like I'm going to go play wing foots Aussie later brings his excursion to Siberia was to Pinehurst Golf resort. For Ninety nine days. Struggle. Fishing. And then he's tweeting more so. Right, the biggest struggle he had was when they moved from the presidential suite out to the cottage. Trace. Left no trace of himself inside the presidential suite just trying to clean up that. Sweet. That's good stuff. That's good. Old Fashioned Fun by the way. In listening to Marceau Golf Society event is at Pinehurst tonight and when you're listening to us today up until eight PM Eastern. Yes true. Okay Golf we're going to talk golf does Johnson Tour. Championship. First of all I was. It was it was tough this weekend. I thought on holiday weekends really get into this i. you know I was, I thought for whatever reason other BMW last week was more intriguing at thought with the scores and with how often USO preconditions I was more into that at like other years I've been more into the tour championship than I was this year just felt like they were I know it felt a little different to me, and so I really just didn't I didn't follow a ton. Maybe that's because it was sort of over before it started DJ which is holding his lead. My level wasn't particularly high I don't know about you guys. I mean I liked watching it but I do agree on Labor Day weekend this tough to fall along And I saw your tweet rigs of like I just don't give a fuck whatever you said about like bitor championship Jay Kinda just like he never really kinda faltered what on the second day he didn't play great but still had a leader tied forward or something like that the end. And then Saturday Sunday or I guess Sunday Monday, you just kind of like crews and pulled away or stayed with the lead route because I think actually in jt shop, the same net four-day score but he started with three, lead a three shot lead and finished with. I saw people saying that let go your gross winner and actually this guy with like that's just also bullshit. 'CAUSE deejays playing to win. This is not playing to win right? So this doesn't Stupid people care. Yeah, I mean the tournaments built for Dustin Johnson to win it. That's why he has the lead. So when he's just cruising through the weekend yeah, he has a three or four or five stroke lead times. You kinda faltered towards the end had a couple of bogeys in a row and you thought just announcing come up at times dot Ron was gonNA, come up at times Utah Schofield was gonNA come up whatever but the tournament is built for him to win. So like obviously you're gonNA lose some of that like competitive edge going into it when you. have. A Sunny Labor Day weekend you want to spend time with family stuff you have it on like I had it on all weekend but I got the islanders go into the fucking stay in the Eastern Conference finals. I got a lot of shit going on in my life at the end of the day when I know Dustin Johnson Post to win this event if he's still winning when I check in I'm like, okay like he's doing the thing like he they built this so that he does what he's doing right now. So about this surprising intriguing to. Me had he like got fifteen over in the first day and all of a sudden it's a fucking crap shoot guys are coming out of the woodworks. Welcome complain for the Torch Asia for fourteen million dollars. You don't have to put in the clip there. 'cause I know it doesn't say fourteen million but the problem is is that he didn't. So I didn't care that much I. Was it I didn't care now. You're right they did design in a way where they're like, we wanna make sure whoever was the tour championship is also GonNa win the fedexcup and They're going to win the ten or fifteen million dollars with they didn't anticipate or maybe they did is that you take some the juice out of the tournament because you're just like Oh that guy he started lead obviously, it's not that many over the guys who are closer to him, but it's exactly what you think people are going to check in every once in a while it's like oh dj a win like who cares he was winning before the thing even started. So it's like how is my excitement levels for some raise or decrease? It's the same thing. On Sunday the same as Wednesday. Right he won wire-to-wire and also like before the wire was even fucking great. US leading the whole thing. It had no real drama to it. It didn't when I was thinking too is a didn't Ever hold enough weight. To deter me from something else that could have been more fun activity like if someone like playing golf I, I would rather have just played golf today watch this and that's not true for all tournament. Especially major championships players, the memorial sticks out east. Lake. A lot of years sticks out as one of those where it's GonNa make trouble in the morning. So I could definitely watch that tournament and this time it was like if anything else came up. I don't know that most people unless you're crazy diehard fan or better or something would be invested enough to what to watch that on a Labor Day Monday overdoing a lot of other activities. So and and the idea is the fifteen million dollars. The huge prize that's GonNa get people excited about it. That's what we said for the longest time that made thrown money in this thing, and that's supposed to get people excited about it but that also. You know who that really gets excited is just the players. The players get super excited about that. They can win fifty million dollars I think Kevin Kisner finished twenty third. Of course, he did and he got four, hundred, sixty, six, thousand dollars. That's not a normal amount for that place in a tournament. So yeah, it's going to get the players excited. It doesn't totally move the needle as much as I thought it was going to with the general public. No and it gets you really what gets you is during the last hour of coverage on Monday final round and like Oh this up downs worth five, hundred grand and those things are cool to a degree, but it's also inherently a forced. AAC Incentive, right like that's not. Those guys worries talked about how? He just plays for the prestige he plays to win. He's got plenty of money. A lot of these guys that were in the mix have plenty of money. They don't care because of the money. Of course they do. There's a reason I'll show up as reason I wanna get to easily. But at the end of the day, exactly what you said it cares them. But us as the viewer, the prestige, the the history of watching it certain courses at Augusta at these US Open venues knowing how much it matters to history not just to their bank accounts what drives you to care about the finale and seeing it, and even like the finish that we got it, BMW you know like that drove that tournament to such an iconic sort of. Place overall termites that we witnessed all year. None of that was even going to be possible at East Lake. So the whole thing was just it just didn't quite land this year farming having said that some of the breakdowns are hilarious like you said, kids with a t or the twenty third place finish. Of course, you had to guess at the beginning of the year whereas kids GonNa Finish at the tour championship. You'd probably Guess twenty-third boom there he has four hundred, sixty, six K. Rice with a surprisingly bad fetish you finish one spot is one hundred, seventy eight. K. For twenty second. Kind of a weird fall off for rice in considering we're talking that he just he just like ruined and reinvented golf and that no one's playing the same game boy ask the other players during the press conferences and stuff like what are you gonNa do about this Bryson d Shambo situation and then it just didn't pan out and he has got a philosopher last month. Yeah. I haven't heard Bryson's name almost forgot he was playing this weekend like do which is crazy if you back and like you said the way we've talked about them all year. Bryson. was going to be a problem until we were. You know until he was one hundred forty years old at that at some some. Some aspect of what was going on with him I mean he His you got to think that like this sits with him now until. The US Open coming up. So maybe he'll. He'll like he won't think about it. But the fact that at the end of the year like they're going to say finished twenty second on the PGA tour. This year is that is that the way this works like Hughes, the twins second best player on the PGA tour this year I mean I think they're going to murder him in mentally like that's going to fucking kill. You essentially have the twenty second best season on the BJ. For his ego and his personality and the way he thinks about himself and thinks he's changing the game ago like Bryce and I don't know like if it's your bucks or something but like finish in twenty seconds, just not GonNa get done like you're not changing kids allies at twenty second maybe maybe you gotta get in the top eight to start talking about changing lives like let's let's get a little bit lower than twenty two this spot better than Kisner guy who just drinks beer and The PALMETTO doesn't give a fuck about anything around here trying to change the world and you're one one spot above that guy. That those two body types are pretty much talk like all Sutton unlike twenty twenty. You just stood those people. Next door did like sports illustrated swimsuit edition with guys like us all. Kind of. Mediocre to average body event Salt Bryson just as big as a house. Yeah I mean. Fedex the company of Fedex decided like, okay we looked at your two seasons and we're gonNA give Bryson you earn twelve more thousand dollars at the end of at the end of lease like graduations. Or work was put into Bryson's. He has a teen says, go go go go when he takes a practice swing simulator so. You're they didn't really like talk about the money as much like I do like. Last year rory one JT What I think was the leader I just looked it up. So jt hat started at ten under Roy started five. So there was a little bit of switch there little more excitement this year. DJ, just never seem to give it up. So it did it didn't really capture our captivate anybody or like rigs bring you in from another round of golf for whatever the case is like I, agree with that, it just didn't have an actor. Now, the leader on Thursday has one correct no J. Dow Rory one five strokes off you. Right that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. We gotta talk about the Fifteenth Toll One of the most preposterous golf holes every year forget that exists in the nicotine polls just two hundred and thirty, three, yard par three with water all down the right water short water long a little bit of a bunker on the left and then just water everywhere and these guys step up and hit it right at the flag. It's just it's the hardest hole in golf. What yeah. But one guy went in the water today one. We're stanley like TPC, the seventeen. So on the water all the time, it's your hundred arts and the Greens huge here were to thirty-three out. There's the same amount of water. It seem it seems like and they're just hitting the green every. I don't understand. That doesn't make good. Point. Lurch is a really good how come. They can just not hit the other one that's one, hundred, twenty, five yards and their this one to thirty three. That's like I'm hitting three would maybe into that green. Your. Kidding me watching people step up to that team. When they do the shot, it's a regular show like a camera shot of the Guy Standing on the T. getting ready to hit your like, where are they? What are they hit? It looks like they're just hitting straight into the water I tweeted out one hundred attempts. I originally said if I got ten, I'd be lucky on the green from that exact spot act the more you think about it. I'm picturing myself taking one hundred swings of that and I don't know that I get ten. I don't think you do. You do. I hold the green thirty three. If he's on the fringe that doesn't count, he's in the rough it doesn't count. He's got to be on the green only green. That's GonNa hit the green and I'm just ten stay falls. On that. Peninsula I think you get fifteen or twenty balls on the peninsula. Think about my balls missing net green. So many missed shots. Ninety of them like ninety attempts missing yes I mean that's one of those holes that you know the members in that every time I have guests come out. There you go. Look at that that teebox back. There is where the pros play it from, and then there's just water all over the place so long to do that challenge. I, mean. I'd love to watch almost zero because I. I'm driver every time and it's just it's just not going to land on the green a I'll say this frankly I think if you did it a hundred days in a row, you got what dryades day you'd be at like three but I do think doing it one hundred you get in a groove with the club and you know the yardage I think can get up there I think at some point that's our smoothing as hard as I could. End Up crushing three hybrid or something, and like finding a little bit of a draw and maybe get it up to the front edge. Maybe a couple times I can't. I can't stick a three would on that green I'd have to try absolutely nuke a three hybrid. At half to try as hard as I could to nuke three average. Down Win they said. Three. So that was to thirty three sticks. To Five Front rebid green ninety four air exactly I think that's the club you go four iron just heavier five iron even and you're just trying to lob one up there and home lets us hitting a six iron in there. So at the end of the day, like if we're GONNA four, it was pretty firm I think guys were probably yeah there was probably fifteen and like yeah. If you miss it a little, you gotta cover to five maybe like. So I mean me that I'm probably trying to a three iron is harder I fucking cans and hope it lands on the front part of the Green. Does it roll off? That's just Like I know the way my life works is we would get there for this challenge everyone at East Lake would come out all the pros and all the frigging superintendents would stand around us. It'd be a guy we have our cameras out and I'd step up there in the first one I'd hit three inches behind the ball inducted into the water and start laughing my art or get going on. Ninety nine to go and I'd be doing that whole mental dance for at least ten to fifteen shot. So essentially, it'd be starting at twenty or something imagine how incredible it would kinda hit one here. How incredibly be if you Miss Ninety nine times and then you have to get on the last one. But I would that's the kind of drama that I would root for I would hope you would maybe landed on the green, but ninety nine Mrs would be this is just me but like what's the answer for your average? Your average sulfur average golfer. Eight like what is an eight to ten with ten handicap? How many times he hit Nygren in one hundred attempts. Sung. Yeah. It's very low man like to hit a long iron straight is maybe the least. Executed shot. In Amateur Golf. Over. Guys like if you're like an eight, there's a huge range of like where your game is good. I mean a two hundred plus yard shot. You're stretching most people in their bag to like an uncomfortable club or a club that there's no stick to it it literally. One hops and it's just a see later through it. So I just don't think that many people at Eighty Andy Capp the game to hit a five hour four iron your meal. Hopley Lincoln Win Asser Jack Nicklaus on this whole. I would say, US. Thank you Jack Nicklaus Jacqueline Go. No, he can't get it there. Man you see that swing he barely gets those drives off. Country Club swing. Let me I was thinking if I if I stroll up to a tee box on any golf course anywhere in the world with any wherever around it in it says two, hundred, thirty, three, yard, par three, I'm laughing being. Janet this green like there's no chance I hit the screen, and now you're surrounding it with water and it's an island. There's no chance that you have zero to in real in a real round of golf I would step up in no before I straightened at. This is almost no chance to send up on and what is the almost but What does that whole that Cyprus? Sixteen So. Like how far is that landing spot? To it's it's similar. It's like two thirty something. The. Window, you can send your. How did you guys like feel accepted onto that like? offline horrific zero percent champ. And you both put in the water. Twice, I hit three would on the screws because there's like wind coming in face. So there's probably two hundred, fifty, five yard shot or something like that. He's asked and the three woods came short like just hit the front thing and what went in and then I rip the driver and I pushed it right and I landed I think in like Just. Never never land off to the right of the green there's like these like. Weird Hi V. stuff that whole doesn't typically play that hard. They Win Jay Colin he sent me his video of him planet like he hit a ir into the middle of the green people pizzas. We were not only tonight every obviously one of our board Josh. We all know he's like a plus want to handicap. Hit three right at the flag and he came up short in the ocean. Aso's like. Ridiculous it wasn't even a girl. And rigs to your point like if any one of us just played that whole. Once every day for one hundred days I think are averages three to five percent. But if you are you're over and over and over again, I think you have a chance I. Honestly think the play is for your average golfer is to pull one like dead left because the land and then you chip up and you just play it as a part four inches down in easy chip from over there. You know it's not easy but at least. Closer to the hall, you'll Garrett at eventually Roy, inaccurate couldn't even get the ball in the air. It's rough were just average. Chip it over the There was some rate than Trent. You're all I. Feel like soon as they both happen of just really kind of. humbling golf from Jon Rahm, and then rory with a couple wall. Rory's top in the water. Then Roms just kind of thinner sand shot that hits. The dirt. Yeah. It's nice to see when they do that stop 'cause 'cause the flip side is they're all just heading into the middle of the green on two hundred and thirty three yard par three like it's nothing like it's absolutely nothing. It was jarring today for whatever reason as I was watching because that's the announcers they hype it up every single time they show it right? Because they're all this is the whole fifteen. Crazy. Crazy Oh, a lot of water and then the anti-climactic because everybody just says into the middle of the green or even closer because the pen was deep. So they were just able to rip one and hopefully that I hope it ran out. So Yeah, when fucking Roy tops wonder when Ron hits went into the length of the bunker makes me feel a lot better it's shitty for them, but it makes me feel good. Yeah I couldn't agree more. It's nice to see everyone sharing it right. That's one of those that gets copy the link and shares every text group with all your golf buddies of like. This was tim last Thursday like everybody does that they see rory who's you know whatever? The number two number three right player in the world do it it is. It. It also reveals the worst of twitter as everything does where you get the people responding like. Anyone. Anyone laughing at this doesn't understand how difficult Bermuda rough is shut. Duff's park up. The best players in the world trying to advance the ball over a pond and he can't do it oh yeah. That's just like what Bermuda is doesn't allow that just watch everybody else. Do It fucking tournament I I get that a difficult everyone else's guy over the water. I don't know why but. I thought and I know everybody saw this weekend was rigs. You just made that Point Trenton you started like dad units not. Roy's fault or whatever made me think of joke eventually I'm sure you all saw i. feel like we should just touch on it not identified desert all but I off everybody saw the media. Today Yes People were blaming the line judge now that's crazy. I don't mean psycho stuff I mean. It's not line judges fault at all like the tennis ball is coming million miles an hour not their fault. They're. They're like she's imperfect posture arms binder back and then she got glimpse. because. It was horrible. Definitely not Elijah default. Whoever says that those people are crazier may even crazier than the golf twitter which is hard to be but as a guy, who does it no tennis why the Hell would they disqualify him for the entire thing that's where it doesn't make sense to me like logically doesn't make sense he it's clearly an accident, right? Like he was just frustrated with what was going on he hit and it hit this leading the throat unfortunately but like he didn't do it on purpose that's what I don't understand. Yeah, I know I thought a lot about that, but it is. So the rule is like you can't have these people just like smacking towns falls in one hundred, thirty miles an hour potentially in like the cage environment that they playing and potentially hit line judge. So a couple years ago like the two things that I thought of like Serena got called footfall and I think she said something along the lines of like I'm GonNa, Shove. This ethene ball down your throat to align judge in got interface about it was like, and so then this little line judge, this was this little Gal was like. Put her hand up and then the headline Jojoy like come on over here and she told the ahead on that she was scared for Serena said exactly that whole. Only lost that point, which is interesting because there was no physical harm to that individual. The other instance that happened was the guy, the Canadian chappel off or whatever his name is anyways young player who's playing in the US Open right out lost the match smack the ball hit the chair umpire square in the eye socket head goes back head goes forward he broke his is shop owner like his eyeball. Overload bone or whatever it is. So like you do you have to police like, no, that's that's all well and good. But I like when like golf is this way too with some of the stupid rules that has like common sense needs prevail sometimes and you need to go ahead. I. Was Surprise Allied Joe is probably isn't a popular take Surprised Line Judge didn't Flinch GonNa end up or something I just thought. Horrible. I thought I thought I thought there was enough to the person didn't even move. I thought be some sort of isn't that is no movement now, but it's not part. Isn't it? Like being a? What do you? What do you call those British? All soldiers, the ones who stand there and they don't move. Furry. Hat. Yeah. I Wa and they don't move I feel like being the lines jet line judge it's like a part of the gays. In there and not move and have to be invincible invisible will also, like if you're she used to stare at one line all game where it's like inter out based on where it hits on that line and the game was over. So now she gets a one break is or she's not looking at of potentially walking share, and then he cut it just smacks the ball drops. Clips. She's not potentially even looking, and then she got you know. And I'd be the one data blames the lines. I didn't blame. I said, I, was surprised there wasn't a flinch said she also I mean that was one of the best acting performances of all time. No. When she went down to the ground like that, you don't think I mean come on like KFC. It's it was it was quite the scene I mean. Take it to the throat though listen. is in the wrong right like I don't know about the whole weird rules like you said, golf has weird rules Al Noor get behind touch and San with your fingertips. The whole thing like hidden line judges in the throat illegal. At the end of the day. The fact that she felt like that like it's like a fucking bag of potato was one of the things I've ever seen. It's funny but I also think we should frankie and the throw the tennis ball. See the alley I'm one of the most dramatic people in the universe. About rigs I'm thinking I should stand there with tennis balls and just rigs will be like in conversation because he can't really be looking at me because that would give her credit that she was actually looking direction. I'm saying she should've been head on your on a bucket tennis court with there's tennis balls everywhere going around I was just I'm not blaming not a line judge victim blaming I'm saying I was surprised. She didn't flinch. I saw that he thought no flinch whatsoever that's interesting. That's all I'm saying. So here's the video. The service line. Like in the middle of Dennis Court, you stand behind the end line with your arm with your arms crossed and help and you hold your hands on your back and then I humped. Coming at he didn't hub it. He just like Kinda hit it to the wall over there. They're pretty good. Just like banked it over to the wall like. Again There's two ways of thinking of this one. Djokovic. Did the wrong thing and he deserved to get penalized for hitting someone that was just trying to do their job, and then the other side is that is a very funny situation in which I'm judge guy hidden throat because like that type of comedy to me I mean America's funniest videos is one of the funniest video series of all time like just sit back and watch it like shoutout to Alphonso, Ribera who came on the show like the fact that like people get hit and fall and fall through like little spots in in their house or whatever, and then the would comes up, hit him in the forehead that's us. Funny. So when I see a line judge take ball to the throat drops like a sack of potatoes at the US Open. It's pretty funny like I mean the same thing when a guy gets hit in the nuts and you'll. Watch it over and over and over and over again. US. Jarring yeah and that is the kind of video. Barstool lives on where it's like everyone else is like, oh. My God what a horrible thing that happened and then you watch her fall and it looks like she got hit by it's Nice McCain's. Video is one minute man was so funny glued his sack of potatoes like. She saw the money signs like choosing like a like an acme cartoon. It was like literally like the is like seeing dollar signs because she knows that she's Gonna be able to sue Jovic she did fall away that I was not expecting I will say that like her just to kind of like go to a Neil but she sort of like stumbled and fell backwards there was really something. People love watching misery. They love watching people get hurt and I mean that video of when the islanders gave up that double overtime goal and I'm at Borelli's that's got close I feel like a million views across the bar. So platforms like on twitter was like a million the other day it's crazy that people watch someone just die like they love. They love that when that lady dropped her news going to be a viral sensation she's she's fine, right? Yeah. I believe I haven't heard of the are letting she's light little tennis balls of. A crazy personnel I mean I'm taking off KFC's like stuff from his ramp but like choke of Tad that like corona virus tournament and like, and then he got corona virus because he didn't think it was like a real thing. So jovovich is kind of a crazy person at the end of the day like I'm sure some of that lead leads into it and who's that other psychopath tennis player that just gets disqualified for everything. Curious. Curious The Guy We're supposed to hang out with. A tweet it out like if I hit this lady in the throat. would be about it was like one to five or ten like the. The most voted one was ten years. Let me ask you. If if this is just some no name tennis player that does this is it because Jovovich is job she's getting defaulted or whatever. If it's somebody some regular average tennis player Vegas defaulted as well. Yeah. I mean Guy Chappel off who years ago. He was a no name now he's like a top twenty but yes, soon as you hit a line judge with the ball or racket you`re The other thing Frankie though that he missed. In his one minute rant was actually the joke bitch previous Oakland said something along the lines of like we need to have separate tower like he was separating men and women's tennis from like equal pay and stuff like that. He wanted to is. So he is not she's a little. Is Kinda I dunno misunderstood but he's a weird interesting do is not like just not well doesn't he? Also he He's always bitched about like inch does he always use injuries whenever he's losing? He's famous for just like pulling out of tournaments doesn't he always call time outs and shift when he's like losing did He doesn't really need it like he does all kinds of bullshit people just eat them for. Didn't. He just like jump out of a of a match, and then like the magic was no contest or something that didn't he do something where he stopped playing because he was hurt. Someone got affected by like he was playing the guy and the guy didn't. I can't remember. So if you're alluding to something happen. To make these. especially, like the bottom half tennis, there's not a lot of money and so there was a lot of discussion and I forget the exact example. But as soon as you make the US Open, you're guaranteed to make fifty thousand dollars, which is money and. So some guys will say like, Oh, I'm healthy enough to play, and then they'll retire early in the first match just so they get that check. That happened with him. The word retire member a guy retired in the I like what does that mean? They should Have like a chance to play. Tennis A fucking weird sport to all these places A. These old school games they have these weird fucking rules man. There's some weird one status. But I'm for the rule maybe the punishment is too high but I don't know because like in the case of shop like whatever he broke the do like orbital ball like in this case like delayed breed. Now whether you're GonNa, knock on her acting skills or if it was real or whatever lead, you can't have them be like if they're going to let out some frustration just. In the clouds and let the thing draw I, like horrible which they can just fuck it just just fucking machine. Just. fucking tapper people and they're dropping to the ground or the at the end of the day. Imagine all the life judges are diamond out of the way and it's like trying to be get like Mr. He's hitting that guy you remember that. Episode Jackass where they went to fuck I'm GONNA. I'M GONNA messes uncompetitive but basically they went to this where they have they can they launched these oranges at a wall and like the guys were standing like trying not to get by that's how I picture. Frankie's world in tennis one people get hit. 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Going into it and it's the only thing I thought about only one swing thought. It was that I slide a little bit instead of turning it. All add like moves instead of just like rotating back. So the only thing thought I had the whole round was feel like my right hip right offer is moving to the left in my back's right. Instead of like moving, right so just feel like you're right hip is moving left in your backstory so that you actually like it just promotes turning around it instead of sliding to the right and getting off balance and I just played lights out and play the best round place value, and then of course, I've followed it up the next day the first nine holes I played a shot forty five. That's Beautiful Game I also can't figure out what the fuck you talking about I'm sitting I'm sitting here trying to so when you backward pretty much knew. Okay. So, what's that? You're almost making a move to target a little bit. You're right. You're essentially just like it's obviously you can't take a golf swing back swing in actually move your right hip to the left that just like would be impossible. Your it's the sensation of that is going to prevent it from moving to the right was when you move to the right, you throw a bunch of shit off and it's hard to get back to the ball and swear nature. So if you actually move your hip and just rotate around it, you're going to get a fuller turn that's going to promote a better ball strike it. So that's the only thing I was thinking about where'd did you get this from? Who'd you hear this from? A little Birdie told it to buy. I mean, just read this on a fucking while he's sitting on the toilet or what? I. Google that what? Is Actually on Youtube I. Watch these fucking guys I wish I which review video had like eight thousand views and these two. British students two, thousand twelve. I was talking about counteract what was going on my swing a little flat like kind of slap at it just not make a pure cod. And they're like, what happens if you slide just feel like you're right hips moving to the Diet? It's like okay. is one of the truest and funniest things that neighbor gase said on this podcast is when you start looking at you to golf deals on Youtube, you will get to the point where you were looking at videos with seven, hundred, eighty us like this is it. This is the woman I'm gonNA use, and because it you know it speaks to me and it's true. Man I haven't gotten a couple of weeks but. Actually, the last one was at foot with twenty. You absolutely pummeled me into the ground, but the what I really want to do the next go out there and I just WANNA start fucking. Stop I'm never GONNA look at the Pentagon. I'm just going to try and hit the middle of the Greens 'cause I step up there every single time I'm this fucking guy that slaps bar around I sometimes don't even make contact and I'm looking at pins from one hundred, six, hundred, seventy yards out literally staring at them as if that's where I'm going to aim who do you think are I think i. Go to the middle of the Green I. Think when you're at the driving range and you see that big open feel and you hit those iron shots when we were at Atlantic City, country club with lurch we were all hitting shots. I never felt more confident than when I was just aiming at just like a like a very massive target like just get it out there straight if I can do that on the golf course mentally just. Advanced small straight just advance it. If I can do that and stop saying, hit this ball hundred, sixty, five yards on the right side of the Green I. Think I'll be a better golfer. I. Play my best off I think that way like all right let's just smoking look down the ball look straight fine like what area going in and let's just hit it. If you're seven goes one, hundred, seventy, five to one, hundred, five don't stop thinking about numbers. So I'm thinking about one, hundred, thirty, six, you're not that guy. You're thinking of one, hundred, seventy six. You're not that I'm not that can I I am I'm thinking of that stuff. I'm like Oh fuck I gotta hit it a little bit the wind. Your move your move needs to be more often unit to think middle of the green and you also need to think front edge of the great like you need to realize that if I if the if the front edge green is actually one, sixty, two away, I need to hit just a 165 shot at least in the middle of the green and I will be fine fine all day because even if I three walk away with the bogey and eliminates your sevens and your eight when you're trying to hit this thing in the background of the. Green you hook it. Now you're on the next tee box and we saw we see it when I play all the time. I'm finding myself in situations where the supers are like I've never seen someone back there before it's like you just have the stuff when I'm tripping for away stopped trying to ship this thing and have it stopped by the whole just get it on the green up get it up there on the green is so much room to work with give yourself realistic and sort of vague goals. They argue bed hey, beg targets you don't. You're going to fuck yourself making vague and you're going to be a much better golfer. You can. Confidently you just card for some reason, it comes off. Weird. Why are you like soft you said Guy Talk. Real perfectly. You slip into this. Vague it's like it's soft. It's got a round edge to it. How do you say it vague bag? Right. Keep a day. It's like you have a tremble trebling through right here. I'm going to do ready. Beg. Aggressive. I'll never able to that. We're correctly now I will say that I think that most people are GonNa be I know you're actually supposed to aim really targets you're just supposed to make those were small targets in areas with margins for air now. I will say, I'm looking at people like think about the golf swing and talk about your hip it almost thousand up more because I'm I've never thought about my hips in my life. and. So now like hips like guy, that's just it's a Lotta. I'm just locked on on there I don't. I, don't need that. That's rigs have swing pot I'd throw. Rigs are. You know my fucking swing thought you want to focus. World. fucking. Years. Bullshit I've dealt with this fucking hockey team and we finally made it to a place in which I've never seen nineteen ninety-three October of nineteen ninety-three I guess they I mean October was fucking I was maybe so in nineteen ninety three, I don't even know if I was born when this these plants were around it was a ninety, two, ninety, three, season I I don't think I was born I've never seen I was born in August of ninety three there's no way I was born there's no way that season was going on right so that's David never once made it to this. this this part they've never played for this length of a season. I've never seen this much hockey, my entire life especially now at corona buyers as they've been playing a full year, I am very excited on on What I'm seeing from this hockey team they keep surprising me they fucking beat the flyers and seven everyone wanted to laugh at me after game five everyone after me after game six, they said. I was GONNA eat by Faulk and face off my shoe. My foot was GONNA literally go through my fucking mouth and out the back of my throat because all the Shit Talk I was talking game one, two, three and four but you know what? They fucking pulled it out and they shut down the flyers and Kevin Hayes the great one, the best one who's actually a close personal friend of the of the of. The and I actually considered him a pretty good acquaintance. I've I've dined with Kevin as I've I enjoy Kevin. Hayes around I. Enjoy His presence. I was very happy to see us make him take his reaction was to tweet right after he got his season ended and he cited. I heard that he had something planned for me like if they won a he was gonna fuck and do something like a gadget was like wait until you see Hayes Berry after game seven. So I was very happy to avoid that 'cause you know how to spit and chocolates crew roles if they did something like we're shutting down Burrell's or something like I think the town would've showed up at pros and shut it down like I think actually would have been like a real life bad thing that happened to me that whole fucking engine rolled right through my fucking life I did not need that. Shutdown your family restaurant. Kevin Hayes was going to. Let this little group together let's go there like like let's fucking show up and suits and militia shut it down. But now we got lightning. It's it's a fucking. We got this game in forty minutes. I don't know what to think about this series I mean. Kevin Shattenkirk as a big off guy he's ex ranger. He's on the lightning. I actually like him. I've gone back and forth with them they got a good team. They got Ryan mcdonagh and it's like all these rangers around this fucking team all the guys who the rangers wish. They could keep the captain Yeah. I'm looking forward to it I. Don't know what to think though I don't know what to think. I mean the light near fucking bear. Lightning good. Pat Maroon. WHO's Saint Louis. Yes. I St Louis Blues Stanley Cup Champion flashers on the team Alex Caloric. WHO's a team mate of mine in College? You know my good buddy's. Writing and John Cooper, who's their coach I've played for junior hockey and we want a national shipping. So I got some ties the Lacrosse coach at Hofstra and we were serving him pizza fifteen years ago. So hopefully, we can beat this fucking guy. I mean I don't know is is the ultimate players coach, but he can't even like skate and he didn't play hockey at any decent level whatsoever in here every every of hockey that he found himself that he's just a winner honeybaked Ham fucking like peewee hockey back in the day they won everything then he goes to junior hockey. NHL and they wins like three straight national championships and he goes to jail. USA GEL turns that Steve Around Greb illegal was and dominates there, and then he goes to the A and they won in the age Oh. He was Tampa's farm teams at coach. They won like thirty something games in a row instead of professional sports record and the now he became the head coach of have lightning and they lost the Stanley Cup final that year. Now they're back to this point. So he has an insane track. Record of coaching but he is players coach like you said, he was like fucking across coach teen years ago, and now he's the head coach of light me going up against your squad they gotta be heavily favored. Yeah. They're heavily favored every single adolescence picking Tampa Bay I think one guy picked islanders and he went owen four in the second round like with prediction. So he stinks but I I mean listen it's it's going to be. I said this today, you're not gonNA find an easy match up when you're fourteen in the NHL you're not in the Eastern Conference finals are going to be all right. This is an easy match I. Don't think temp based thinking that about the islanders I think they're heavily favored. PL-. MINUS ONE, fifty, five tonight. But like at the end of the day, the islanders just played flyers for seven straight games. They lost three overtime games from tips and broken sticks and all this shit. I have been an absolute force to be reckoned with and I don't think if you're Tampa Bay, you've been waiting around for the last week to play. I don't know that you're like walking into the slightly. I actually like the islanders lot I think they're way better than people give him credit for and I thought they dominated Philly I thought that the game the overtime what was a game six? They lost ages dominated that old game and you Kinda knew it was going to be a bad break the other right in the magistrature. Actually I'm with you. I like the islanders luck devante is will. You know he's A. Friend of the program. Yeah sheltered Yvonne I'm a little bit of hockey analysis that I've been tune in to some of these games than whenever they cut to the islanders bench and they show what's the coach's name? Trot address. He makes me laugh a lot. So that's really that's kind of where my rooting interest is because they just cut them. He's bald guy and he's just got the funniest looks on his faces really been the best part of the series getting no neck he's got absolutely no neck. You've just gotTA head volleyball head on top and broad shoulders. Yes, and if you look at pictures of him when he Was a player. It's fucking hilarious where he had like this long hair this little ball brian skating around just hit and people just like checking people. He's just he is a character and also the funniest picture ever taken with Barstool Merchantville Lake is when I got I sent out these have a very merry Christmas very barry Christmas sheriff's with him smiling on wearing Santa Hat and he put on the sweater and sat on Santa's lap at the rink and smiled as he sitting on Santa's lap wearing our Barcelo sweater. Honestly one of the funniest pictures we ran Australia when that got sentiment brought one of. An American hero guy, plays and loves a game number twenty nine sent to me in the morning they were like eighteen hours ahead of us, wherever the Faulk we were in Australia, which also for anyone wondering those videos are going to be coming up US Open videos that we're going to talk to you about a little bit but. I Remember Waking Up. He does the best picture I've ever taken is about to come to your right now and I couldn't imagine what that's going to be, and it's just this picture of Barry Trot sitting on Santa's lap wearing my shirt and I, remember Yelping I. Couldn't. I couldn't believe what was Avenue I. was so ill, the crazy part is that was part of this NHL season Yes yes. Oh Shit. Jesus, I'm crazy. Yeah Crazy. Didn't you ask me women was that season that they won like seventeen games in a row and I was like it was this year was that you that asked me because we were at Pinehurst. Remember you won't lose. Yeah. We're watching all the way from the brewery back to the door and cottage and you were just watching your phone eventually ended that night. But that was that also this season, the door nick cottage when we were there, that was this season that's a that's a joke. That's crazy. That was my dentist. I went into this playoffs like it's a joke I don't think it's GonNa work. These guys have been sitting around I've heard all the players like what the fuck are we do and we don't know when we're practicing some teams get the practice. Some things don't I was like I want to play. This thing is just going to be a waste of our time getting jacked up just to fuck nine and watch a real sport and all of a sudden obviously the islanders a winning every game they play and I'm changed my stance on it, but also like it's just been. Like do you think about how much how much more difficult it is to actually be where they are right now than it usually, you're think about how long ago that was there still in the same season, they haven't stopped that grind even when they had to stop like even when the corona virus hit and all this stuff, they still have to work out and go through like virtual team meetings and keep your mind focused at any anytime. You can go back and just jump into the playoffs. This has been an absolute fucking garage. Look Good luck tonight. 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I Love I've seen people do that before granted people used to do that I'm never done it but like it looks very enjoyable if I could do it and get in a rhythm and be happy I would totally do it I've never done it and I agree a little bit with the sound effect. But I think you can still hear that as long as you're not like blaring music and your injuries like you can still keep the contact noise of But. I think it's great like if I could do it listen to light. Band like some like very easy listening. Why can't you do it? Why can't what's preventing you from doing it? I've just never done it. Wants, prevent utilized shouldn't say can't I've never done it but I. Put on some steely Dan and just go out there and start him balls I've never done it either although so I can't speak to what you can and can't here in terms of contact with the ball. But I do I mean my game is so bad. The sounds are so different when a good shot happens in a bad shot happens that I like to hear the good shots that I I know what that sounds like. So I I would be against headphones in that respect but you said I don't know how much that takes away from being able to hear the point of contact but I feel takes away quite a bit. Also I've never been to the range by myself. But I. Never been to a golf range by myself. Really. Hit balls of the more odd have always gone like with a body or something like that I've never done. By myself. I'd say it's gone a lot by myself. I mean obviously go with buddies when you're about to play or whatever. But just like go out there and hit a few balls by yourself. You don't do that. Now I've never done. You've never gotten like worked on your swing just like I'm going alone to work on. That's wild can't wait times like when I was growing. Wanted to the driving range like. I don't think like. If I never really played but like I would go with my dad probably like a couple of times a year and then. When I started like playing golf after college, I will always just go to granite with like all our buddy. So is never by myself and I was never a member up there. So I didn't have like access to the goal range on the other side Yeah. I'm I'm ninety, nine, point nine percent positive and I've never been in the rate by myself. The Times we went to, Chelsea Piers we would go together I would go with somebody else. That's really interesting and crazy but I would recommend doing it because it's incredibly therapeutic just. Absolutely, awesome. Just to be in your own World Ed bones thing I was gonna say people being like it's a little bit Harto but one thing I love about if you genuinely going to the ranger, you're like I'm Gonna I'm GonNa be your an hour I'm GonNa hit a large bucket of balls and I'm GonNa like work on some stuff like I wanna find some stuff. It's I think it's huge headphones on because naturally at the rain you become everybody becomes a little bit self conscious like does that person to bays over think that I'm fucking awful because those last week all that stuff it factors, and that's why when we roll up to tee and there's two groups on it like we all get rattled shots, you shouldn't care about other people like what you do and I have noticed when I have had at bones it probably only done it a couple of times but a is just kind of a fun therapeutic experience and be you actually. Inherently with headphones, you just block everything else out and you kind of into your own world and I found it way more productive. I I have like the most unstructured. We sound golf swing I feel like I it's a prayer every time I go after the ball I don't know what I'm doing. So anytime I have something. like my ears or even when I wear glasses sunglasses throws the whole thing off because like I said, like it's a fucking miracle I? Even get to where I'm getting to get that fucking club face to the back of the ball. So if I'm putting any sort of thing that throws it off even when I wear like a bucket hat I feel like like visor. I remember when I wore that visor for the cancer thing I couldn't I was rattled about how it felt on my head I saw Trent Asaka everyone like. This is too big. It's heavier than usual. It's throwing off like when I usually whip my head at the ball everything, just I need to feel exactly the same every time I play the game of the fact that people can go when I watched Phil Mickelson, play with. Aviators on it braves. Can't picture swinging and having that because they're so perfect that their head doesn't move at all and like it's perfect. Perfect posture like my head banging around when I swing if you watch all my stuff, those glasses would fall off me. I wouldn't know where the depth perception is like hitting the ball because you have something in front of your eyes because I kind of like when you wear sunglasses, it Kinda zooms in. You know what I mean. You're looking through a about that maybe also I think it's funny that you say that because like getting the club there wherever needs to be I would say, what are you urinate or whatever I would say nine point co now, the best swing of all eight handicaps in the world legislating it looks so good. You swing it. You have that like small wiry body and your swing looks amazing and many it. Right and that it has all kinds of contact but it is. It's funny that you say that just because like I'm like dude, he has one of the more probably the most natural swing like definitely must match share and use gray like you have the most difficult diner. I have the most difficult time repeating where do ourselves to a pro the other day. I. Think it was Matt. Cherry Valley. Who you guys met when mazing Guy Basket. But like I just can't get the club face. To wear needs to be every time and like not even close and we struggled this with Bryson at bethpage on the driving range. When he was trying to teach ship, he was drawing a line in the ground Brian de Shambo at bethpage black for the PGA championship and he's like hit this line don't. There's no ball here take your wedge out and hit design and I missed the line on different spots on different sides of the line all ten times I swung. Now, it can look for I can have a nice backpack and have a nice fall through experience. You bring it all the way around my back like my one of my friends says, backswing my follow through absolutely disgusts him. He says I try to four Sergio thing. My friend Andrew says he can't wash me sing anyway says absolutely gross but. I can't I. Don't know what it is. Man I don't know if I have weak wrists week arms. CA. I know you can do I can't get it there. Meanwhile I played basil my whole life and you've practiced like on a t driving that front hand to the ball on the tee you just you bring the Knob to the ball, you keep it inside why can't I do that with a golf club a lighter club it's you have a nice thick grip off pride grip. Why can't I get that club face to that line or even close or even close ten times it sounds like a hard drill like to hit a line like sounds lurch I didn't even come close one swing was two inches back wanting was two inches forward now put a ball there and that's the top. Chunk. Which is what you? Do, but and then when I when I when I hit one good, you guys have seen I don't take a blade of grass it's not Play with my dad and I played like three weeks ago. And he? I remember he I hit a shot from like one hundred, Ninety five and I actually hit the green and he just stared at the ground. He never even watched it go up. He was in the car and he goes you didn't take one bullied aggressive. You hit all perfectly all from one hundred, ninety, five yards out not one blade Gretz. How you that can't be good. Hey, WHOA is not the way to play I think hitting off those fucking shitty ass rubber mats. My whole life taught me to just pick the ball clean I never know what into the grass someone else is GonNa have they're going to have a drill for you to do to just learned to drive the ball into the ground you know what they're gonNa tell me they're going to put it in front of the ball and hit the tea. That's the one that everyone tells me now and like try and do that try and. Try and do that Shit right like imagine you talk about swing thoughts and getting in your own head try put a tee in front of the ball and just look at the tea and then hit the T.. Okay. Oh, the balls in the way dude, what am I supposed to do? All in the way of that too. Oh God yeah. Yeah Poor Frankie anyways headphones at the rain I think. Yeah I I'm for it sounds great. But other people probably can't do it. Okay. John says. My question of the boys is, do you think your handicap has impacted by playing matchplay? Very consistently, the your handicapped would be worse than how much worse would it be if you played every ball to the bottom of the cup every time I'm GonNa, say like obviously, it's just lower because we played match-play and if it's just gotTa be good but I also think that it's It's not lower than the average golfer because I think that's almost how everybody plays like if you're out there every. Once or twice a week that you play golf in your genuinely grinding in a metal plate format to get to the ball to the bottom of the cup every. It's a miserable existence you must hate golf. And be it's just gonNA, take forever every time. So I think that yes, you are the overall handicaps would all be a little higher but I don't consider problem because I think almost everybody just does that. Same, then. Now I'm might not realise actually. I. Don't know this when if you're doing that, don't you enter that as a tournament score if you're playing everything to the bottom. Now you tournament scores when you play tournaments. Talking. It's. Ban That wasn't supposed to be a boom roasted while. It was just answering the question. Because what did you think that Lurch? There's always that option home away and then tournament to answer on Android Gin, and I just thought like when you're playing everything to the bottom of the cup. If you're doing it that way it's just a tournament score whether it's an official tournament or not I just thought you enter as tournament now I, never have I just seemingly enter everything pretty much is away. But large like when you played in the granite member guests that would be those routes of the. Tournament scores it would okay. Yeah. 'cause those are like tournaments or like if you played the club championship at of course that you belong to or anything like that would be I believe injured as tournament scores I, think it probably matters on the format of maybe a member guest. But it doesn't have to be a USDA tournament to count as the tournament it could be. There's a lot of things that could technically go in the tournament but it's basically the difference is it's not just a casual round that doesn't matter where you could write down anything in theory of tournament round it's your score is significantly more verified in legitimate, and so therefore gets more a reflection on your handicapped. And if you enter. In tournament fashion. Is there a Max number that you can take? I don't think so but I'm not a hundred percent on that. That's kind of where I paused because I wasn't sure about that. 'cause like I get everything else but then like, could you enter an eight under a tournament score or not? I'm not sure. That's a good question. The New Orleans I have no idea. I'm not sure things of things have obviously changed with the double and all the other BS question. I'm not really sure. Trent. Your the computers shining through your glasses hate this I hate it. I'd take that than what it's doing to me. I. Look like My brothers, poison I, have my phone light on me because without this, it's just black alloy streaming. The cameras called green extreme, and it's the worst camera that scene can't adjust to. Because if it's dark room mates tried to compensate and like really writing me brightening me up but fuck I hate this thing notre, our reportedly haunted house. Like I'm being in Tarrant, do some of those things on the wall where it's like the. Who Look at like? Headway way out there trying get away up in mind is, is the bunny here Moloto Bonnie they can't even really see it. 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So do you consider yourselves like soft or loud wire or loud or yellows? Well everybody should err on the side allowed. Let's let's start with that everyone be loud. Don't be scared to yell for although sometimes I know like, I've noticed that the person hitting the ball is always the least likely to yell for because they don't believe that that's what's happening and it's usually takes the other people in the group to be like that's headed right towards his fucking head. So we're all GONNA YELL FOR He had a follow up which is. Said do you yell as loudly when it's not your ball or do you even yell at on? I've actually heard people say you should yell four, which is which is doesn't make sense that you would tell someone that Beijing yell for because if you're telling someone out for you should just helpful. Oh you're saying that you should say the words you should four. People have heard people literally like if you slice off to the right, I've I've heard people in the group like man you should yelp for and I'm like well. That is that is a time sensitive gesture. Berry type. Like it was time sensitive as you're right. If you're saying that you should in the place of that just be yelling for right. Wing Foot I yelled Four and then at the four caddies, I said I screen for and then like when I didn't think they moved you never said it's GonNa take your head off I like got that in there and remember the guy like scurried away. That just fucking rang through wing foot. So I'm not like embarrassed I mean. I'd rather scream as much as I can and not and like just cover myself from a lawsuit or something like that. Then not say anything at all so. People say or Hey Ridge you should probably say for because nobody wants to be the guy that has like go over to them and be like sorry about that. That was me. So I think everybody assumes that balls hit and going into another party are literally trying like step out of frame and make sure the. Doesn't knows me or somebody else. So I, think that's why people and I do think there's no reason not to be loud when you're yelling for. Yell. Be As liberal and loud with your phone calls as possible because there's no benefit to not. Doing the only imagine will benefit is I if someone's on the green next year or something, and they're not the ones in danger and like the guys about the chip and you're screaming four the place. Like that could rattle their cage, but it's that that shouldn't even be a factor like we're talking about life death. We're talking about like serious bodily harm here. That could be done to folks and people don't want to yell or you guys do the yell I four, right do you use the direction? I feel like I scream four and I looked to see if they looked up stream four again if they haven't made any sense like and then I'll scream like exactly where they are teebox four. I'll just try and get something to register into these people's brains. That's coming right at them. Yeah. I. Won't say four and less like the ball's going at them at them like it's GonNa. Miss them by twenty. Feet I'm. Not, GonNa say four because I don't want them to scurry and then potentially now get hit because I said four. You're an asshole if you get mad at someone for not saying four and it didn't really come that close. There's people that'll be a god being right that could've hit us well, like no, he didn't say four because he knew it wasn't going to hit you like I hate that argument. That could've hit us like that was pretty close. No it was where it was and we reacted from where it was like in another situation. If it was coming closer, we would have said something differently. Just a quick. Sorry I didn't WanNa yell four because I didn't want you to run in that direction but I'm glad it didn't hit your whatever. Like also also a great also a great like all time moment on the golf course when someone says for and you're on the T. and you're like finishing and you're like, no, that's not assignment that's nowhere close to those guys like you say that under your breath because you know it's not going anywhere close. And, then you get a little bit of a tiff with the guy you guys walk back to the car. You know it wasn't even close I mean it was. Like Lords at what's the point not saying? Well I mean I just wanted to to be. Yeah Yeah. It turns into a whole thing, but it is I don't. You don't know how to to his point. You don't know how to react necessarily every time somebody else for because if you if you like jump to the left, you could be in the balls. Pack Right. Is it you just stayed put? So it's really a tough. No hearings cover my head I guess yeah you knew here for its terrified because you you there are people are they're saying to you this ball is coming. So close to you that you're GONNA get hit in the head, but you don't know what to do at that point when I hear for I'm just like whatever happens right now is going to happen I don't know how to avoid because what lurks said I don't want to move and then hitting the I buy something. You're hearing four. You're just like I'm out the mercy of gravity and however and wherever this ball wants. Could you imagine someone yelling fuller and the next word is just like this gut strange like no from the two-day because you're like running into the dredge. It's like it's like a game of thrones and guys the kids trying to run away from the euro and you're like. Zigzag doesn't zigzagging spoiler alert gets hit by it but like you just you just got to not move or move, it's a horrible decision to make. It scary I usually just do the cover my head with my hands and my arms 'cause I like to think that my those parts of my body can recover. More than if my head gets hit. Like if I break a finger that's better than breaking my brain. So you. Know, you don't want them to the dome piece but. Four Force Big Party Game Yell for Grad There Listening Psa just start screaming for all over the place Okay I. Think we're done here. Frank. You've got the islanders in ten minutes. Luck to you. Tonight. I'm really very much. Thank you. we have I. BELIEVE BIG S coming up on Thursday shows. So wrote Teaser for the folks there we got ton coming out with the US. Open we I think we have three like feature high production style videos around wing foot US Open, etc that we're going to have coming out in the next week or so leading up to during the week. So people can get excited about that travel show you. Go check it out and and then Barstool off the Society Pj tour to K Twenty one. I think it's the rigs memorial or something because I apologize I was similar to I played the course today to scout it out 'cause sometimes, you know these are user created golf courses, and people just absolutely fucking. I'm DM's are a nightmare from when I pick a bad coarser good course it's insane if it's not playable like these people go crazy if so many sixty, thousand people in this thing now. So it's crazy. It's a lot of people lot of lot of juice in a lot of action. You're just you're just all the sudden after like a week or week and a half you now just make decisions that affect like an hour or two of sixty thousand people's. Yeah it's. It's kind of like not all sixty thousand people play in all the terms. But at any given moment, sixty thousand people could play in these events were making them nightly. So I feel like at some point, they're all playing a one or two of them There's a couple of guys that have one like every tournament like it's crazy this one guy like flacco or something like that. If you look at his house. He's fucked I. Think I'M GONNA. Kick him up for being too good. I, think I can. Usually. Events usually ten events he's finished top ten in ten of them and I. Think he's won like three of you just have to ask the commissioner of this online society you have to think about the repercussions and the. You're setting with these types of moves. I mean I won't where we're bit were were gonNA build a way which is going to be more competitive like Assad just going to be on PJ UK twenty one, we're going to build a world around this so that people can join different difficulties and settings it's coming just keep playing in the event get get better stop complaining about the Greens get better like these Greens are legit. Tonight's Viner's I made them Furman fast. which I probably shouldn't have done a number two and that's GonNa make him a nightmare because I played them on moderate and they were already dicey dicey. So an he just play you do get better that sounds obvious. You'll golf it's it's you just gotTa, your tempo down and sometimes I completely lose my tempo and then I get really discouraged about playing but you get your tempo back the more you play you figure out. How to hit it out of the rough, how far to go back what to do? So if you just claim more, you're going to get better and it's much more enjoyable dude I played I was streamed a little less also subscribe to the foreplay Youtube paid really streaming. All the time I have is I'm a Gamer now I have four screen desk I have a capture card I have an obvious system I have A. PC SETUP I've got three different systems I've got lights I've got cameras I've got the whole thing I went live less. I'm barely work I could barely get the audio to work. It was a nightmare, but I played this mini golf course called like shipwrecked and Trent. Even texting about it's I found out because I message someone it's the hardest thing to build of all time I don't think we can build any of course. This dude built the most fun mini golf course within that game you'd have to like be a man and like not take a wedge I if the keep switching to potter and just thought around. But faulk, this guy made a mini golf course like you wouldn't believe it was actually really fun but keep an eye out for that subscribe to that. It will go live. You'll get a notification every time we go live. We're GONNA. Get everyone in the mix we've got to figure out the technology. We can't figure out technology this company shocking. No that's that's long documented. That's true. Calendars join the society get involved. Have some fun. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard hard hard. Day.

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British Open Preview with Shipnuck and Bamberger

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British Open Preview with Shipnuck and Bamberger

"Hello this is Alan ship knock back for another podcast for Golf Dot Com and the knock down as always. I'm joined my faithful wingman Michael Bamberger Hamburger Mike thanks for doing this on the upside here. Not The other side the other side. We don't want to get to metaphysical too early in the podcast of yes. This is a open championship preview to me. I think this is one of the most anticipated opens a very long time. Of course we have so much young talent the game we have a new alpha in Brooks Kapka. We have tiger who's still the masters champion even though he hasn't played done much in the months of follow but it what I what I think it makes us so epic is the venue royal portrush always wanted to games great pilgrimages up in Northern Ireland hosting hosting the open again for the first time since nineteen fifty one and it's just a monumental golf course and it's a really important socio political occasion so Michael. What is your anticipation level of this open intensely I or I could say device is not in ended that could measure my statement? I'm not really sure how could possibly overstated I couldn't be I've in there and a chance to play it. I just got to walk. 'em Look around from some. Did you lent <hes>. It looks exactly where you have been. You and you have played. Yes so it's interesting. I'm lucky to have seen the evolution of the golf course because I was there in two thousand the three with just some vagabond Americans and we played our way across Ireland which was a great pleasure of course and then last year on my way to Carnoustie. I went back because I want to the changes course and reports a big story worry which is now in the July issue of Golf magazine so <hes> I've. I've been lucky already to make the trip twice in the port. Russia's is a beautiful little town and the golf courses just one of the great pieces of ground that that exists exists on in the golfing world and <hes> of course people probably no this is the first time the open is ever sold out one hundred ninety thousand tickets or gone in a matter of weeks and the are organized some more water clauses etc.. They released a few thousand more. They were Gone Day <hes> first time ever. There'll be no walkup sales at the open championship. It just tells you how golf crazy Ireland is for for this event and and the town of Port Russian and really the entire golfing in community so I think the crowds are going to be phenomenal of course Roy mcelroy. Everyone knows has the course record portrush having shot it when he was sixteen a sporty little sixty one gram McDowell's local boy who grew up playing the golf course. They're kind of the ambassadors of this tournament but it's really a big deal for the entire golfing world for a lot of reasons when you're when you're downtown Belfast have have you get there well. There's there's now and to the credit of the R._A.. In others it took a lot of work to get this tournament back to Port Rush <hes> of course <hes> part of that was they invested millions of dollars in roads and in railways and so you can you take a train. That'll that'll drop you. You know a couple hundred yards from the I t right out of Belfast <hes> there's shuttles. There's Uber's you could rent a car. There's a lot of ways to do it. I think I think train is a very nice option. <hes> that's how many probably most fans will get there during the week of the open <hes> but yeah it's the logistics of getting to portrush never been easier and that's a credit to the aren A and and the stewards of of Northern Ireland because it really took a lot of infrastructure to make this possible but where is it on on the spectrum of of playability like a like a Lytham might be considered playable versus X. intensely difficult coordinating the wind is almost impossible with your instinct is where this false yeah. It's it's it's really get better. Turmeric term brain ovaries is probably a better example of a squirrel open course and currency to win the most intensive difficult scoring course. Where do you think is definitely closer to Carnoustie? I mean you know Northern Ireland is very exposed to weather. <hes> you know parts of England Scotland Have Ireland. Ireland is a buffer to to take some of the weather <hes> I think I think wind is going to be an ever-present factor. <hes> which of course we want at the open any links course is better in the wind and more interesting and certainly a lot tougher but there's parts of row portrush that are quite you know narrow you wind your way through the dunes and <hes> it's not it's not a place like like Saint Andrews where you can kind of swing away and there's not a huge penalty <hes> there's there's going to be lost balls. There's going to be crazy. Stances I mean the dunes are wild and woolley and of course <hes> in anticipation of this open. <hes> you know part of what the backstory to this the D- debris in port rice back into the road was <hes> the the R._A.. Went went to the proud members of this one hundred thirty golf club and said Hey we love your golf course and now we want to change it because the seventeenth eighteenth holes were the the weakest part of of the layout and they were Kinda hemmed in by the I t and by the clubhouse there's no room for the the amphitheater grandstands like you know it's such a trademark of of the closing holes at the open so <hes> this sort of audacious plan was hatched where <hes> there's a second links course right there at rope <unk> call the valley links and the championship courses done loose and so basically two holes were absorbed the they're part of the valley and there was also just some raw land sitting out there and so the old seventeenth eighteenth holes have been abandoned. They're going to become the spectator village <hes> and other infrastructure and to new holes were built for this open championship. They become the eighth in the ninth holes. No excuse me the seventh and eighth and both are tremendous on one is a par five. That's just framed by incredible dunes <hes> but it's tight I mean it's GonNa take three good shots and navigate that <hes> that heaving earth and then you turnaround go the other direction to this this very very tough par for blind-drive over the dunes slanting fairway and the green has a wicked false front and you know the McDowell's and the Darren Clark's and others who really know portrush well they they feel like these these new holes are great and that's really strengthen the layout because then the finish becomes a lot more interesting. There's all one of the great par threes in golf has always been calamity that was the fourteenth and now gets bumped back to the sixteenth chance so it's really a do or die moment in the round. You know it's this par-three. That's going to be a two hundred thirty yard. Carry over this gaping chasm through crosswind and then the seventeenth hole which was the fifteenth is par for the to actually drivable because it's overdue nd steeply downhill to the green and so that that could be a real thrilling seventy first hole and now the finisher was the old sixteenth now. It's the eighteenth very tough dogleg right par for four out of bounds runs down the left because that's basically the first fairway <hes> and then carting the Dogleg on the inside is just some really gnarly Dune so it just a very simple but fraught question you stand on that not in how much of this dog leg do I wanna cut off <hes> and if your ambitious losing the dunes you're in trouble. If you bail out laughter you double cross yourself you could the Balka definitely role obese so <hes> they really took the two weakest holes on the course and abandoned them and the added to more that are fabulous and by changing the sequence of the finish it becomes a lot more interesting so royal portrush was always a you know one of the great courses in the world and it's actually better now and I think that's pretty cool from the clubhouse when you hold out on sixteen where the old sixteen to now eighteen only about one hundred fifty yards maybe you just kind of you just have to loop behind the I T and and then you right there at the clubhouse. Oh yeah you don't really lose the intimacy of the routing it was just it was when when you change a proud old golf course it's always dangerous and <hes> but talking all the members up there the people in town down and the pros who know the course that everyone is happy with with how it turned out so that's rare as you know <hes> in when you start messing with with <hes> with the the links land but it's really was a home run and so. The only thing about portrush is there's. There's a lot of a lot of movement in the land. I mean you think about some of the the open venues like a car news. It's pretty flat. You never really see the ocean you could say the same about about the old course in some ways except maybe out in the eleventh green. You're close to the bay but there are some incredible views I mean when you stand on the fifth T it's one of the best of us and all of Golf <hes> the whole course is falling away from you and you can see the dunes you can. You can see the I._R._S.. See down to this Infinity Green. That's just completely framed by by the ocean that that's a that's definitely a another drivable par for but if you go along its O._B.. So <hes> a lot of risk reward built into that whole <hes> and that's another cool thing about about portrush is there's some real bruisers I mean just so monstrous holes and there's a lot of holes that are gettable so it's not going to be a slog. There's GonNa be a real cadence to around where you can you attack and you fall back in the course gives and it takes and I think adding one most exciting open venues we have and <hes> it's just can be fascinating to watch these guys navigated the changes up to mate Alan will they are they in place on voters just for the open known going forward for sure and it's actually a the deal that was made it. They're going to bring basically every ten years. We're going to bring the open back of their committed to three open so the and certainly the course. It's there's no way to go back the way everything's been changed and <hes> so yeah this this is this is Roe portrush now and <hes>. I think that pretty soon the people are GonNa forget how it ever played because it it just feels natural. It looks natural and really has made the course. Oh cool <hes> so yeah. It's no this this is. This is the layout that people are GonNa Fall in love with. I mean it's GonNa look so incredible on T._v.. Is just pure golf porn and <hes> I cannot wait for the you know. Scores are counting and the competition to begin. Give the intensity of the political effort to get it to Northern Ireland. Where do you think we stand <music> now in terms of ever seeing it open championship being played in Ireland itself well? I mean that's interesting because you know the Republic of Ireland is is not really part of Great Britain and this is the the opens always played England Scotland and then of course it went to northern it went to Real portrush nineteen fifty one and those every expectation would come back and then the troubles began in the sixties and it was three decades the basically civil war and of course it'll be Northern Ireland became a no go zone for for anything involving terrorism or international events the Good Friday accords were were signed in one thousand nine hundred eight that began sort the uneasy ceasefire and it really took a at least a decade before people could even think about bringing the open back and that just happened to coincide with Graham McDowell winning the U._S.. Open Roy mcelroy becoming a force in the Game Darren Ryan Clark winning the Open Championship. You know these were these are northern Irishman who were just fabulous ambassadors for the game and they really made Northern Ireland a golfing capital of the world and so all these these forces combined brought the open back but of course there's no history of of the open in the Republic of Ireland and <hes> you know you could make a case for <unk> Marnie could be incredible venue. That's down your Dublin. It's kind of the car new st of Ireland. It's really tough tactical golf course but <hes> I think I think are satisfied to the. They're going to bring portrush back in the road. I don't think they're looking to expand. <hes> you know the tweety old traditionalist. I'm not sure that they feel like the Republic of Ireland is is part of their turf so I'm not sure it's I'm not sure the opens ever GonNa go south of of portrush but you know we shall see it's it's certainly opening opens up new possibilities and there's a hope expectation dictation the the this this one sporting event can help galvanize the entire Irish island because the divide between Ireland Northern Ireland remains and even though we're in a period of <hes> a ceasefire. There's still violence. They're still <hes> you know this. This reporter was killed in April. Who's con the crossfire between police and the new Repub Irish Republic Army and so the the the a political ferment he is not what it was but there's there's still a certain amount of tribalism <hes> nationalism that that makes the the politics over there complicated and of course if you if you follow Brexit <hes> a a big sticking point the negotiations is what to do about the border between Ireland in Northern Ireland because Ireland is part of the E._U.? The European Union and Northern Ireland is aligned politically with Great Britain's which would be compelled to leave the E._U.. You if Brexit is consummated and so you know there's been talk they they need a hard border wall to control the flow of goods and services and <hes> that has helped inflame some of the old feelings that that led to the troubles so this is a a fraud moment to be bringing the open back and there's there's definitely some jitters. There's there's certainly going to be a level of security. That's probably unprecedented a golf tournament <hes> but you know Graham McDowell and and the optimists optimists over there are hoping that this will unite the Irish people and it'll help mellow things out and <hes> that'd be wonderful. I mean we all know that sports. There's a political element to sporting events you know we certainly saw women's World Cup and we saw the Berlin Olympics in nineteen thirty six and everything in between so you can't take away the politics as the context for this this golf tournament but hopefully it won't be overshadowed by anything <hes> outside the roads right. I think that's the nature sure these things is that in in the preamble you're a lot about it and then once <hes> shots are bleeding anger. You forget all that and you really really focused on the golf. I I was very stroke by what Graham McDowell said right the very top of your story in this month's <hes> Golf magazine mean about she's been so much our country and in the United States and <hes> in patriotism is so much part of the fabric of our Culture Museum at every football game baseball game and and every afraid and he felt that he doesn't really feel patriotic about his <hes> about his home country <hes> but that was striking but what was that conference. What was it like to even get Graham cowl engaged in a political conversation because that's not I used to do with the most athletes yeah we'll of course we all know that the Graham is a pretty deep thinker in a thoughtful guy and he is in a lot of ways of spokesman for this for this open because he grew up in port rush and you know Darren Clarke has adopted the club? His son works on the pro shop and the metal he won for winning. The open hangs in the royal portrush clubhouse <hes> but he's he's not a local boy he grew up. You know I think an hour and a half away seeing the mcelroy he's from Hollywood in Northern Ireland is not from Port Rice but because he shot that sixty one he's identified with of course but really g MAC is it's his home course it's where he grew up and so he has a lot of really deep feelings about <hes> this open in about this golf course and <hes> he was he's a candid guy and he's Kinda poured his heart out and you know he came of age during the troubles when it was not even be proud of Northern Ireland I mean there was there was over fifty thousand injuries that was more than three thousand deaths from bombings bombings and shootings and Catholics versus Protestants and <hes> was the defining aspect of your identity when he was a kid and he lived through all that so he still bears those scars. There's <hes> as doom a lot of people of his generation and older and so you know when I think when he came to you know college golf in the U._S.. <hes> that's what people thought of Northern Ireland it was a youtube song and it was it was Sunday bloody Sunday and it was all that stuff and so <hes> I think he was self conscious about that and you know the town of Port Russia's beautiful the golf courses amazing that people are wonderful but all that kind of gets lost in all that violence and so <hes> for for McDowell this is this is a chance to celebrate something else and <hes> all along with all of Northern Ireland and there's a pride in the air and there's a there's a a a feeling of <hes> <hes> of this moment is arrived. I mean and the people around porous and aren't a and everyone else has been saying this is the biggest thing ever can happen Northern Ireland. There's never been a public event that even compared to this <hes> so it was trying to put their best foot forward and of course. For some jitters that go along with that but <hes> you know for I think that patriotism that MC MC Donald's talking about is a real thing I mean this is this is a big moment for Northern Ireland and a lot of ways and it is obviously a transcends golf but the the golf course and the town and the people be front and center and certainly could not have a better ambassador than than Graham McDowell someone who <hes> is beloved and respected in and can really put into words what this all means. It's really it's interesting to hear you say that on. I think you know the the the typical American golfing tourists <hes> Vice Shannon replies to Dublin and and plays <hes> most of its golf. I don't know the number of purely guessing here I would think eighty five seventy five at least maybe eighty five percent of the Gulf <hes> Republic and <hes> and this is a week to really put <hes> Golf Northern Ireland on an APP for the American tourists as well which is a very significant maybe not as good as used to be with the Dandan some the research that have developed <hes> in North America but significant moment for their for their Gerson Industries well without a doubt the southwest Ireland is so wonderful and of course it was just on display at the Irish open with Lynch's the host venue and everyone fell in love with hinge on TV of course Bali bunions right there and Waterville and Dune Beg <hes> Charlie and it's such an easy trip out of Dublin. You just Kinda make the circle the European in club. I mean you can go on and on the Royal Dublin I mean it just doesn't quit how many great golf courses are to get up to Northern Ireland is is a trek and of course Royal County Down is a huge draw but real down only ten or fifteen miles north of the imaginary border between Ireland and Northern Ireland to get to royal port Russia's other two hours north. I mean it's it's definitely a pilgrimage and a lot of Americans make the trip <hes> but in the past I think everyone gravitated towards the South West because the violence and everything else is only in the last ten fifteen years at report Russia has been rediscovered <hes> and so they they get the diehards but for certainly the rest of the world this there's GonNa be a great introduction to portrush port stewardess right next door. That's a great golf course that I believe you and I will play during the twilight hours of open week. It's it's fabulous of. There's there's a lot of new courses up there waiting to be discovered and <hes> as you say there's the economic benefits of this open are huge for for one week but it it can really solidify Northern Ireland is a must do destination for the the wanderlust Golfer and <hes> so yeah. There's there's a lot of there's a lot of hope in the air. This is going import rush on the map and in different kind of way. She's thinking about the before golfers you've already <hes> mentioned a Harrington Clark knocked right and McDowell <hes> dissimilar people old they'd have a very similar spirit and they seem to be aware of life beyond golf in ways that maybe they're American quilts worse than many of their conclusions are wonder wonder if you have a series of why that might be yeah they're they're certainly made a list of the best interviews in Golf I think they'd all be on the list and it's not something that really would be rory. PADRAIG and McDowell you top five without a doubt part of that I think is just the the Irish tradition of storytelling and it's a very verbal culture right. I mean when you head over there to the pubs or to the clubhouse and people talk your off and it's wonderful for reporters right so they they've certainly embodied that but you know they understand that life is complicated Kayden <hes> rory he he didn't really live through the troubles by time you know ninety eight came round. He was <hes> he was still young pretty young kid but <hes> that legacy is always you know east inescapable. You know you heard stories he. I think they recognize that that life is can be a challenge. It's not it's not all <hes> just fairways Greens and so <hes> yeah it's really GonNa be moving to hear all of them. Speak about it. <hes> and even you know just watching Harrington you know he played great. The first round of the Irish open at lunch and have some his interview was spectacular the all of those all those characters such a credit to the game and it's nice that they're going to have kind of a moment home in the sun here <hes> it really. They're GONNA add a lot to that tournament even even if his caddy that's right yeah. He's a local boy so and that Michaela that definitely is is a subplot for for Brooks. I mean I remember when when the U._S. Open went to Chambers Bay where Michael Gretler had caddied Jordan speed Falchetti huge advantage because Grell new course so well and if that Gretler said Oh man I mean I I know the Greens at colonial better than these. It's been so along. They've changed the you know. But what matters is that Jordan things. We have an advantage and I think that that's going to <hes> that's going to be similar with with with Brooke so it is interesting you know Kepco he cut his teeth on the challenge tour and over in Europe and I can't wait to see how we handle this golf course because <hes> as we know links courses require a different kind of mentality. It's not just smash it and then dial in your your your your yardage make the same swing over and over. I mean is a totally different kind of golf course and I think brooks has that gear even as he's become so adept at playing the American style through the Air <hes> you know same with Tiger and it's so fun to watch manufacturer shots and his way around <hes> you know maybe this is what Mickelson needs to find a spark another guys want an open so when when you think about the field and on this plainfield who you most excited to watch I'm very watch tiger because I feel like tiger as the smartest call for his family. I feel like he figures out golf courses as quickly as anybody and I feel like he's the there's player in the game right now and every openness decided by by iron play off the keys and off destroyed even irons that will finish whole hot too. That's very different than flying whole high but to finish nine oh hi this is playing a course that <hes> virtually <hes> most well virtually all field doesn't know nobody knows a under these conditions. I think that was very much. <hes> indicted stable because of this dictation at known <hes> how to play Mrs <hes> what she's showing almost every open that he has like <hes> <hes> so <hes>. I think the fact acted a new venue <hes> soccer <hes> how about yourself yeah I mean he it's GonNa be interesting because he's he will not have played in a month and Harrington. Among others has been critical of of that notion you know when we saw tiger turned up at pebble beach pretty rusty <hes> looked a little stiffen the cool weather I mean could be it could be deja-vu portrush. <hes> you know it's I think it's pretty clear that eighty degrees and humid suits tiger and fifty seven and windy does not just he most of the time pebble beach looked stiff. He just looked like he just couldn't swing the club the way he wanted to finally found a little bit of form on Sunday but to not have any warm-up Gulf between <hes> to not play on that turf he's definitely put himself a disadvantage but <hes> this is just a new reality with tiger where his body won't let them prepare the way probably would like to so <hes> that's an x factor when he's going to bring to it but I know he's over there early and he is definitely GonNa get some practice on the conditions and see the different winds and it's more than ever we we don't know what to expect from Tiger that makes it kind of exciting. You know oh he's he's not a golfing robot anymore. These he's a middle aged dude aches and pains and whatever he turns up with its subject to change every day but <hes> it's it's really interesting. I mean a guy like mcelroy has has not played well in the wind his entire career even though he wanted open that was a pretty benign week and with his towering ball flight <hes>. Can he play a different game. You know statistically he's having his best season ever you look at the strokes gains number numbers. He's having won the ten best seasons in history as far as overall proficiency and you know he won the players. He's he's won twice. He's got a chance to be player that year but there's been a lot of Sunday stumbles now playing in front of the home crowd will be completely inspired and Willie Access <hes> some some unique talent and blow everybody away. I mean certainly possible. Will he be overwhelmed by the moment and the pressure. In the spotlight and that's possible as well so I think I think rory is is really keynote player and it's going to be fascinating to see what he can do. I mean you can go down the list. It's it's really there's even though brooks has been so dominant. It feels like this is this is a wide open golf tournament and <hes> you can make a credible case for a dozen guys as the favorite and <hes> as it's just really exciting. I I can't wait to to watch how it all plays out. You find yourself a a would tell you and I have a rooting interest. Dig might have always had a ruining this guy since Sunday night at the U._S.. Open enigmatically have more of a rooting interest <hes> <hes> but I wouldn't be surprised to see Jordan Jordan spieth play well here and that might be colored by the fact that I'm rooting for him. <hes> if you feel the same <hes> explain why and maybe tell the folks that are experienced with yeah yeah we test on this last time on our last podcast but of course for those who didn't tune in Sunday night at the U._S.. Open MIC line. I went to the taproom. You're acting tape our podcast there we thought it'd be Kinda atmospheric and fun and it turned we just lucked into an incredible seen gene Justin Thomas and speed or the table next to us or their families and they're doing shots and having a great time and then Gary Woodland roles in with his entourage and their drink now the trophy and many folks in in the Gulf world from T._V.. Announcers to US officials rolled through and we're just chatting everybody off and having a great time and then speed unsolicited just sat down at our table and and we had a great chat about half an hour on on all sorts of things and it was it was quite charming wing and you know it was he never said this is off the record. Never we weren't taking no to just three guys talking golf and it was it was fun and so there's not there's not too many players. I think who would who would do that especially really be so engaged for so long you might get the courtesy hello and a little small talk but this is a pretty deep conversation that you and I both enjoyed and I mean speed is remains. One of the most fascinating players in the game. Aim is just a constant highwire act with him. <hes> there's a lot of fill in in Jordan. You know they're both very smart. They're both very unpredictable and that's why they're so fun to watch you know this'll be the to anniversary of speech last Victory Story <hes> which is pretty incredible given given his talent and his his youth but he's he's searching you know we. He's he's put together some good rounds. We had the middle of follow them up. There's you can see the angel. Madonna shoulder sometimes is and that's that's great theater. <hes> you know for sure he he remains a threat every time you tease it up. He's just such a a good thinker in the tiger mold we know the putter can get molten his ball striking. This here is is not been great but he knows how to play shots and I've heard speed talked about his success at Augusta is because it's in some ways like an open venue where there's a lot of funky stances. There's a lot of elevation ovation change. There's a lot of geometry and is not about making the same swing over and over it. It's not about mechanic. It's more about feel and just seeing a shot and playing the shot and <hes> certainly that's you know he said he's he's had a great run at Augusta National and <hes> <hes> to win on Birkdale which is epic golf course I mean I think I think maybe being at the open will will free him up and it's not about making the same robotic swing over and over. It's about hitting shots. It's about it's about feel and using the ground and using the wind and <hes> so yeah I agree it. Would it would be wonderful to see speak make another run because the game is better when when he's on the leaderboard right here saying that adds it even though Oh this isn't just what I was struck so much by our conversational is is fun. Dr Love just for Golf itself is the competition of course <hes> we defined the love of competition as defined Jack Nicholson Tiger Woods that you felt full-time joins the same <hes> but would Jordan even beyond that each really pure remand command Gulford. I can recognize that Jordan's beef and recognizes that's why the opened his job and because it really is an expression of love of Golf <hes> <hes> not love score just love of golf and that's so I think is is winning the open for years ago so ethic terra lots of different reasons but one of the reasons why it's just how that came through and how he plays every with gabby how he talks themselves. One of the majors is most of his personality. It's I totally agree and unite both loved the masters. We're not love Augusta National National. We love the masters <hes> as a as a competition the U._S.. Open is is wonderful and its own way the P._G.. As interesting but there's just something special and unique about the open I know we both feel it. <hes> whether you know you remember last year Sunday night run deadline I ran out to the fish and chips buggy came back me you Sean s-occer Charleston fishing ships which to me is like my favorite meal of the year. It's our stock. Yes exactly less than half my age. He's listening to your age but it's hard to believe how able he <hes> he handled the handle. Those <hes> that week we're filling those videos on the street and the fans are coming up and interacting me. It's just everyone loves golf that we and <hes> it's. It's a different feeling in the air. You know you're in these little villages where <hes> you see players walk into dinner and everyone spilled out onto the street and from the pubs and there's an intimacy that is unmatched at any big tournament and it's <hes> Pebble beach people really enjoyed watching the golf and and they kind of went their separate ways but the evenings at the open are part of the part of the fun and Evans sneaking out to nearby golf courses and playing golf till dark at ten thirty at night and there's a there's a romance of the week that is is really special and unique and I know you're looking forward to it. As am I any <hes> any final thoughts on this particular open Michael. I would just <hes> until seven. That's <hes> you know I'm short. People always ask us they as via which is your favorite of of the four majors and ships Paul Medical or visual but whatever you call it and then they think you're being politically correct with you know within some kind of weird Gulf got. That's not being political correct and some kind of weird context. I'm just saying it's the one I enjoyed loves. The most enjoyable and one of the reasons is in these villages and you can't take the train there you can walk there and the end <hes> in village life <hes> in the gambling life in our own golfer owned even golf all co mingle with the with the event <hes> <hes> so it's a great great <hes> celebration the operation of the of the else going since eighty five that I've missed a bunch of years but I think if I went eighty five and <hes> doesn't really changed it doesn't really need to change even as even as the Golfer. She's equipments changed. <hes> it's the same set of course even even you can just yourself of course as part of that and <hes> you know in a world that changes <hes> so quickly. It's nice to have a nice to have this study thing in our in our lives well. That's beautifully said our former colleague Jack McCallum hosted a tournament call the Christmas city classic and he would put out a little tip sheet on each of the players and Bamberger was always referred to as the poet <music> old links land and I think the listeners have a little sense of why that is now so remember but he's Tagline to that what is or picture that was he his haggus upon seeing the best one Munich really funny so untrue. This Bethlehem unique has so much in common with <hes> with with open play. It's it's it's cheap. It's open everybody. It's a simple of course and it's GonNa play absolutely all right Michael. Thanks as always for your time. I will look for you on the I T at Port Stewart in twilight maybe on Monday evening and <hes> until then safe travels and L. C. on the other side. This is a Alan ship neck signing off from another.

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Thaddeus Bullard was going to speak as well at the Florida graduation peerless. Price is graduating from the University of Tennessee and in our final guests has taken the longest Road to graduation. I it's truly an amazing story. Wilbert Haggett and three of his colleagues broke the color barrier at the University of Kentucky. Forever considered trailblazers He he was there along with nate. Northington Greg Page in Houston Hog. Their stories are at times. Poignant other times extremely heartbreaking but Wilbert who was also a CO captain all. Sec performer and the CO MVP is a senior joins us now great three year starter at linebacker and a graduate of the University of Kentucky. It took a while Wilbert. Thanks for joining us. Congratulations and good afternoon. Thank you thank you for having me yet. It only took fifty three years but better late or never. Well you know what When you think about it I'm sure when you walked out of there are many many years ago you were trying to move on with your life. Let's go back to that point for a second because I mentioned Three of your colleagues and a lot has been said about what you four accomplish. It wasn't easy for any of you wasn't at the time nor wasn't Paul Pay You know. Of course it was a time of social change a lot of racial inequality so seeing justices and racism them and just a lot of things going on at the time Vietnam War so we were. We were dealing with many things at the time but we were very Very fortunate to be able to have an opportunity to go to the University of Kentucky get a scholarship to and to play football and get an education so in spite of the tough times in the south. It's still was a great opportunity to a great opportunity to go to the UK. You know. It's so interesting Wilbur. While while you guys were going through it. This was still being debated at a lot of other. Schools documentaries have been done about Wilbur Jackson and John Mitchell would Alabama and then there's debate about other schools but Kentucky was at the vanguard of that I'm interested in. You grew up in Tennessee. What what what took you to Lexington in the first place well. I grew up in Kentucky. I've been Turkey and Kentucky. I saw a winchester and I'm thinking Tennessee but Winchester Kentucky. I apologize for that now. You went totally opposite. So you know I'm I'm GonNa Kentucky Man but anyway Grew up in Kentucky and My in a town Twelve miles east of Lexington called Winchester Kentucky and Back then Powell we my parents were big. Uk Fans and not even know it and we actually had a great basketball problem you know eight Rossi and actually the and the football coach at that at the time in the fifties when I was living in Winchester with Bev Ryan so we had a great football team as a matter of fact they won ten gangs nineteen fifty and stop the thirty one game winning streak Oklahoma so they declared themselves NASA champions so football with big In Kentucky at the time but basketball was beer and like I say. My parents were just Big UK fan. Didn't find that out too late on in my life. When I got rated Santa Scholarship I with my first choice Michigan State and then My Dad came in out of nowhere and said what he persuaded me. Or encourage me Uk would be a better choice than my dad and my dad and me Listening to mom all my life. I decided the UK was the place. I would spend my next year. You mentioned the backdrop of the country In in in the late sixties. Tell us a what you and your your three colleagues experienced. What was it like you know we? We were concentrating on trying to football was a I know down and We We were trying to concentrate on football. There were so many distractions. It's because of the the social unrest. But I WANNA probably the toughest thing that I had to deal with. I came Houston hogging myself and and and another team have Johnson the where the next three African come in. Nineteen sixty seven but nate Northington and great page. Well the first two African Americans San Ese in nineteen sixty six greg In the fall practice in nineteen sixty seven was freshman year. Greg Had An accident on the field. He broke his neck and and within the was problem from the neck down and one days after a great passed away so that was probably the toughest thing that I had to deal with. It wasn't so I could deal with the social. I had marched in a civil rights movements I had witnessed. Uh Not being able to go in restaurants or having a set on the back of the bus I dealt with all that so we had but one of the toughest things that I had to deal with with Greg passing and And then after that politics just making it every day And trying to deal with everyday life on a on a campus where you were not wanted so it was it was. It was tough but I had a lot of support from family. I had a lot of support for my teammates and And through all of that and a lot of lots four from my coaches administration. I got married After my sophomore year I married my wife Venison. That was good with me. And so we just dealt with it Based on on whatever we had to do to survive it. That's what we do so you get out of there. You're you're the you're captain your final year. You end up working for many many years. You're also an official where you're not Yes I've had a good portion a good been in the replay booth currently with DLC. I joined the FCC Ninety Eight on the field so from nine nineteen ninety eight to twenty thirteen. I was on the field and from twenty thirteen. And now I've been in the replay boo proud of that. I would think conference. Usa and a mid South conference which is a small company. But I've been officiating football since nineteen eighty four and I've been in the SEC since nineteen ninety eight so it's been a very very very a great experience. And I'm just so proud to be able to still be a part of their super bowl for the all these many years Wilbur. We had an incredible conversation earlier in the week with Mitch Barnhart in. Tell us the story. About how how this graduation came about. Well it something a pilot I've been wanting to do or for many years As a matter of fact back in Lexington in nineteen seventy two seventy one seventy two of always wanted to finish my degree. I actually enrolled at you. Avail want went the UK a couple of times and just didn't finish and So I mentioned to Dr Kappa. Ludo in January of twenty nine tape. I believe it was GONNA throw Doctor Capa. Ludo of the four men on these statues. None of us I graduated from UK. I mention that to him one day and a couple of days later I got a call from my athletic director. Mick Barnhart I. I got a call from the admissions office and they told me that they were going to register register me for school and I got a call from my Athletic Director Mitch. Barnhart And he said we were they will pay you okay with pay me going back to school and that was January of of Plenty nineteen and then here here. It is may may for Twenty Twenty I finished my degree and all the requirements and now my graduate of the school that I love and I'm so thankful for the leadership That at UK. And so thankful for the support that I've gotten from my wife and for my family and and it's been a great Great great thing for all of us and the Iran. The Iran thing about this. I have my nephew is nausea Mohammed. Who Played on the the twenty? No Nineteen Ninety eight championship team. And I I haven't told anyone and now the registered for school to go back to school. Been out twenty five years. I'm out fifty three years and we're both graduates of twenty twenty so weird. We're really enjoying that. So I just made a comment to the to the president and And the rest of the system. I mean got the ball rolling. I'm just on for fall. Support obviously DJ. Well You and your colleagues as we mentioned a minute ago Greg in Houston and of course. Nate are commemorated in the statue outside. Kroger field and the training center. You're now or a graduate. I know that You still have a lot left to do with your family and your life but you just have to think back on this journey Fifty-three years from from growing up up there to to a graduate and so many other honors bestowed upon you. What what goes through your mind. I'm just thankful you know a lot of people Back and I've had a lot of time to reflect and they look back and they they take about what they should have done which they done things. Different of people change schools and and because of they're not satisfied or something goes wrong but when I look back on my decision to go to UK. And I look at what's transpired over these last year. My my life The Gay things I've been able to enjoy because of my affiliation and associated with with you. Okay my my nieces and nephews graduated from you okay. My wife graduated from UK my daughter-in-law graduated from okay. It's been a great relationship and And Your K- has been very supportive of me down through all these years. I'm I'm very beyond the community. Advisory Board of Board of Trustees. I'm very active in in in at UK and and they continue to make me a part of that Everyday like your case on just very thankless very very good so I people ask if you had it to do all over again what would you do? I will do the same thing I have no regrets been. It's been a great opportunity as many Great Ryan. Great Journey Wilbur. Thank you for sharing your story. Congratulations and All the very very best. We hope we hope we're all out of the House soon and we see you up there this fall. Thanks a lot. Thank you take care about Wilbur. Hagit joining us as we complete our Look back on this amazing day really has talking to so many different people who have graduated in participated in Sec athletics. We'll take a short break. You're listening to Paul Finebaum. Show podcast. Welcome back as we begin to wind things down on a Friday afternoon. Let's try to make up for lost. Time was from callers. Who HAVE BEEN WAITING? Josh is up next in Birmingham. Hey Josh Hey Paul. Good afternoon I I just wanted to do At least I dedicate a quick second peppers rogers. Georgia tech legendary Starting quarterback in Nineteen Fifty two national champions Sec Championship. Yeah pass away yesterday and he meant or a great Steve SPURRIER's well. Oh Wow oh the second thing. It is yeah Second thing is I I wanted to get your opinion on How this Kobe nineteen I GUESS SHELTER IN PLACES AFFECTED. recruiting And whether that would actually lead to Recruits right now. Staying it more local universities. I think it's going to have a big impact. I think players are going to be much less likely to go far. I mean far. I'm talking about cross country. You've already seen a little bit of that. It's hard to get too much. I hate to read too much into one or two cases but there was a player out in California. Who backed out of a commitment to Clemson may see you may see an exodus from the West Coast That may be the first thing you see but but I think because there is so many so much conversation about what happens if it happens again so that could play into it. Yeah Yeah I looked Recently I've seen Alabama's kind of struggling in the recruiting boards right now and I know it. Nick Sabin. Just got an email. You think that has any effect with that. Yeah I think you're right I think I I don't think we can quite yet calculate what's been going on but I can tell you the smartest coaches in college. Football have taken advantage of the of the last two months. Yeah well I'd like to I guess leave With this little part which is Germont all the Georgia bulldogs fans that nineteen nineties more relevant than nineteen eighty and In call me at eight six seven five three nine okay. Swamy is up next Hello Swami. Hey big yeah we'll probably major casual Friday and you know with that said Lot what the Swami do if he was president and first off if I was president I would expel California from the Union. Accommodate the telephone line. Maybe for you know for security reasons and stuff and second off you know. I'm going to build a wall around the newly formed Republic of California instead of you know the wall there Mexico and power. We you know we. We may not know You know when this virus will end but we definitely know. Who's risk at it? So you know was that said and Paul. When when have we ever quarantine on this country you know the CDC says? I think Wednesday that people under twenty five have a better chance of dying from a lot in the strikes and this disease so you know you know Vice President I would i. I'm a corner. You know the elderly people. I don't care what age they are. Or if you're at risk from twenty to ninety you know L. scarlet letter on them so everybody knows that this person's wrists stay away from them and Oh I guess I'm through being president but on a larger sat all You know people thinking about what to do on a you know on all this downtime but what I've done is that I don't know if anybody's got a videos if theirself or but they definitely probably videos of their kids and stuff or grandkids. So you know. I've always got house. I was more keyed up for their games than I ever was mine so I think just watching them. Real ones are much better than watching sports free round. I'm an is up next well. Ladies and gentlemen how. `Bout that great bumped of music that was I can see for miles and miles by. That's Pete Townsend John and listen Keith. Mom Watchdog. None of us do what we do best. Let's go back to the learns this sees Paul from Charlotte Charlotte. How you doing today? You been handling all this downtown. Are You doing all right? I am on. I thought you said we had a call. I thought you said this. Show Paul Charlie. Can you hear me buddy? You hear me and my as we communicating as we are sitting you. Don't you have some more host Boston Charlotte working as a coin trying to recover from some of the calls? What's juncture heard? You Talk to talk to Dwayne. He gave his number and I thought the calling them. No and the and the a checkup San Luis Larrea rich and this towards What's up with what's up and Larry you know he's he must be battling some kind of thing going on. I mean him the rich both kind of sinking Larry Not taking calls. You can text and rich talk gift to take him and You know just been. Phyllis hanging tough daunting doing the best. I can't and everybody says it love and you know I just you know everybody out. If you've got a moment those are pretty good people there and I appreciate your prayers for them as a matter of fact. Why don't we just pray for everybody to solicit everybody everybody's including brick boss Charlotte? We got ways you can see for miles and miles and what else you want to hear some purple as but Jimi Hendrix. Are you experienced? Okay Ricky is up next. Hey Ricky I'm an Needs to needs to stick to his day job as big bad drummer. I don't think he's ever going to replace Casey Kasem. Man Go sounds pretty good. I I enjoy hearing amount of time. I saw rookie. I'm doing really well. I appreciate how about you I. I'm still working. Fortunately and no. We're we're forced to Mask and of course got people you know they're gonNA complain. You know And I'm the whole last thing is is crazy isn't it? Yeah this thing is something else but I feel so fortunate because There's so many people who are trying to go back to work and wanted to go back to work because it's it's a they got families a afi man you know and and you you you have people who are working complain about the situation and got to wear a mask and you know They came breathe and I told one person I said. Well if you if if you feel that way When you rather not trying to this thing then on the wrist ray. They're trying to exactly. Yeah if you've ever been on one You'll take the mask. Yeah yeah so I mean so. I feel fortunate. I I really enjoyed the interviews Special with Wilbur I thought that was Wherever wherever it was so inspiring. Yeah yeah facing adversity. Because we all do we all have our own. You know Set of Circumstances that we go through life for everybody has it and is is is is is really up to us. You know to To try to make our way through it you know and We have to find ways and just like with with this Pandemic you know is Is is like What's his name The the guy from Florida Thaddeus Bullard I. I don't know if you've ever seen him. He's now a WWF wrestler. Oh Okay Rick. I'll tell you this real quickly before we run out of time I was. I spent the day with him in Gainesville last spring and we were in the weight room. And what's your what's your what's your go to move in wrestling. He said I'll show you and I knew I knew I walked right into it. And he picked me up. I can't remember what it's called it. Will you pick the guy's a piledriver? Whatever then you just slam the guy down and I swear I felt like every a got some I've got a back issue Disc gives you a lot of people that they recommend surgery and go. Yeah right and Exactly and I thought I didn't he? He obviously let me down. It was it was for the camera and I started to think I may never walk again after this guy he was a good interview man. He's an amazing guy. I mean if you think about what we did a piece on him on the SEC network. And I don't know if it's Maybe still airing a little bit. It's it's he said it. All right there is His mother was raped at eleven years old and and and he was. He ended up being a child. It's it's one of the most stunning things I've ever heard any quick break back with much much more. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Mel is up next. Hey Mail Hey Paul her you disease. We're well thank you Great Thanks for accepting the call Heard the news on yesterday That NASCAR announced the Talladega rates in Alabama would take place actually thirty days from today one month from today and right there in your own backyard and so they are able to pull this off then there should be no problem whatsoever for collegiate football nor the NFL. So just it together your thoughts yeah I. I'm really excited to To See NASCAR Go with this and I think I don't know that this weekend and next There will be no fan. I don't I haven't heard exactly how Talladega intends to roll it out. I think I think quite frankly Nash car you could probably you could probably get more people at a superspeedway than because they're so large in mammoth. But I I think they're just GONNA I think most important they just want to get it on and make sure it goes well and safely and it is not it is nice just to see something other than racists from yesteryear a great to hear from you. Let's check in with John next in Mississippi. Hey John what's going on? We are doing well. Look I WanNa know what you thought about mcelroy Roy mcelroy. A of your league. Tom My God. I don't know where you're at but you hear what he said about not wanting to play golf with From Roy mcelroy played in a group with the president a couple of months ago as many golfers have tigers played with them Jack Nicklaus and I was a couple of years ago one insane. I'm just saying to the point of you. Know a guy from Northern Ireland over here says the United States honestly Obviously not he grew up in Northern Ireland right. Well I mean what do you mean what do you think about? You think you ought to be talking about that. He wouldn't play around with our. You think that's right well by the way I think he I correct myself. I think he does have a dual citizenship. So he I think So hold on. Hold on just a second. Let me explain to the audience. Who doesn't know exactly what happened. He was on a podcast and he said that he regretted playing around a golf with trump a couple years ago and he said I haven't done it since out of choice and you know he and he criticized the president in terms of his his leadership. So I mean my question is Since he is a dual citizen doesn't really matter whether you know he's from Northern Ireland or from Indonesia. He can say whatever he wants to say way upset. I love set because I think he's stupid. I ball what does he know about leadership we need to worry about? He's got games became more to make this guy one of major about five years. Probably the most talented player in the world. You WanNA major about five years. And he's a dog. I president offer well first of all let me. I don't know Roy mcelroy okay. He was asked a question about playing golf with President Trump And he gave an opinion whether you like his opinion or not. What was Obama? And he's a black rabbit. What do you going on right now? It'd be more all over. Hey run him out of the United States they would. It'd be it's a it's just a it's just. It's it's pitiful. Our country has come to the people need to stand up. They need to kick his last. If I catch you on the street myself blaming run into he'd better hope you don't run into me he 'cause here's the deal. Then for the president trump pound with chronic bias. Right wrong whatever. He should never be able to compete to say whether he would play around the golf with our president or not. If it's come to that our country's in bad shape man and I think everybody knows that this pathetic somebody don't stand up and against that. Guy. I pulled for that Guy. Actually go no truth myself. I've always taught for because I thought he was real straight up cat but he don't have a clue what's going on Man. He don't know nothing about leadership. Be The president. Then tell me what leadership is dealing with. That man deals with everyday. He's out there chasing a little white ball around every day and don't have a clue man it goes say he. Well what do you think? Donald trump cares whether he played golf with him or not. I really don't have any idea right. But a businessman Obama in the White House. What do you think would happen? You think he would've said Damn hell no he wouldn't have been a little scared to but now that trump in everybody's going against trump it was okay for little. Roy mcelroy's about five foot. Eight reacts like he's so Kinda weightlifter and bicycle rider and all that I don't like I just thought maybe you'd have an opinion. You get your opinion. You think it's a good thing that you say something like that. I really think it matters a whole lot. John whether I mean I I watch the news like every day and I mean there are. I mean people are giving opinions on every person involved and I mean we're talking about I mean we're talking about a guy played golf with him. I mean we're not talking about the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and all that but I hear you understand all of it a guy like that. He shouldn't be out there. Dogging our president all somebody needs to stand up. Our people need to rally around as shut people like him up. She's like Lebron James. What did he say something about the Chinese they get all that money over there off the NBA? But now they brought this virus over here on us. And we got listening. He works here. He you ain't heard a word out of the king. Yeah we know 'cause you ain't 'cause he's scared of the Chinese these people but during the boys state nothing bad about whatever G. or whatever you pronounce his name again. See that but they'll let him talk about. Trump will short more worry. I mean this joke Paul. You know what it is you know it is is is coming to this point to where people can talk about our friends but they won't talk about the people that are the bad people the She brings his fire sober on. Everybody meant need to wake up and realize what's happening. You need to stand up yourself and need. Take a stand on. Say One way. Or THE OTHER SAGE. So you think it's a good or a bad thing just says yes. He has a good thing or a bad thing. He said there's got gotta be with the other right well. It doesn't really have to be but I appreciate the call us and we have to go to a break. Thank you for sharing that information and we will be right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show geico presents. Not again another voicemail from your roommate. Hey man so I was in a rush to get to work and I left the back door open. You shut it. I lifted wide open. A while. You're there. Could you also turn off the oven? And all of the burners. My mom never let me use the oven. I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. Keep your personal property protected. Like if it's your roommate's first time operating in oven visit. Geico DOT COM to see how easy it is to switch and save on Renter's insurance. Oh yeah close it up in. Hand me one while you're at it. Mad is up next in North Carolina. Matt Hey Paul. Thanks for taking my call. I've called in a few times before and I appreciate you taking my call and I wish we had more sports to talk about but unfortunately I have to talk about the gentleman who just called yes talking about Roy mcelroy. Okay One thing Paul first of all the United States is a that comes with a lot of criticism. I mean that's just what the job is in every president before trump has had to deal with a lot of things said about him and people saying things about it. But I don't to my to my knowledge I don't think trump has been called the anti Christ yet and I don't think trump has been called in a legal alien yet or somebody that's not from. Yeah not not yet okay. That's what I wanted to make sure that that hasn't happened. So here's here's the deal. Man Gets people need to just calm down relax a little bit man trying to be a little more patient is tried to look at this from every angle because I understand people that are out there that needs to work. They want things to open. But I don't know if that's GONNA help if nobody if the businesses can't make turn revenue quickly so people just need to calm down but I'll say that I said this on your show before and I'll say it again and you know. Trump is not off limits. Man He is the president and honesty. He has to take what comes with this. Just like every other president before him. When you're in charge and you sit in that seat you're the man charged. Paul and I appreciate you taking my call. Thank you very much. Thank God Man. You take care of yourself. Let's check in with Jeffrey In Montgomery Alabama. Hey how you doing Jeffrey I'm doing well. Thank you our last caller and He would talk about people talk about trump but truck talk about program. Bummer every day and playing. I WANNA play with that nut job and they were telling me about not know you heard about upon right. Yeah Redwood Howard said yes yeah me right okay about nobody by him all donald trump freeze look like they don't look like they're Jill like trump. That's all I wanted to say. Well thank you appreciate it. Roy is up next In Chattanooga to call. Hey Paul are you doing is nice. You're listening year. It'd been listening to you ever since I've been living in Burma I live in Chattanooga now but I'll piggyback off the last two years and say it's not fair for people to try to make you take sides you know what you how you feel this private and if you don't WanNa share that they should honor that and they should respect that. I just WanNa say I I appreciate you and thank you. Thank you and hope you have a great show today. Roy Thank you a really great to hear from you and Cat Daddy is next eleven movie they have a one lap dog rough eight no Hollywood L. commitment to refi whole the bull bossert looking closer politician but Jimmy. Deans and convince me. He got some Dadgum Good Song. He does that upset about that. You know you got to be. The president got help. Teach 'cause get called bad you know. That's just part of the job and I thought trump campaign button anything. Well I mean it would be one thing daddy of I mean I mean I. I didn't mean to. I understand the issue but I don't really care what Roy mcelroy thinks about anything. Do you exactly. That's I don't care. What do you have the same? I don't care what Hollywood people have to say. No I don't I think for myself and I will do what I to do. Nobody's GonNa Convince Me Jimmy. Dean's thank you know. And that's why I I mean when when you're in public life no matter what you do. Whether you're hosting a Colin show or the local meteorologist or the president of the United States. Everyone's going to have an opinion and I. Maybe I'm just a little too I just immune to it because I just I saw what he said and I didn't even register because of so many so many people that have said far worse about all sides of the of the political We'll we'll ask true but you know I just bought the concern about what the famous people are. Killed me to thank you. I just came. Just do what I do. I think so. Give us Give us a final met. We only have thirty seconds left. Give us a final message to a head into this middle weekend of May. Let's all spread some love. Your hands free. Be Glad you still my greatest country in the world. Because we're going to beat this saying and just let you all know I've got a dog. I mean Egypt and somebody asked me about. Why did I said well? It was hard to housebreak because the left a pyramid never room. We'll see we'll see Monday. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 196 - The British Open. NCAA transfer portal. The intriguing NL East

The Sports Reporters

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 196 - The British Open. NCAA transfer portal. The intriguing NL East

"The Award Winning Journalists New York Times fillers topic out abound no opinion left unsaid and institution for sports information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupica Mitch album album of the Detroit Free Press Ryan of the Boston Globe and E._S._p._N.. I Mike Lupica the New York Daily News and M._l._B. dot com and welcome to the Thursday edition of the sports reporters podcast which is continuation of a tradition the began on E._S._p._N.. On Sunday mornings and and I guess the most recognizable members of that were Bob and Mitch and me and so we decided to get the band together again for podcast and so we happily do it twice a week now instead of once and we have the last major of the year starting in golf today used to be the P._G._A.. I actually like it so much better now. That's the open championship is being played in Northern Ireland at Royal Portrush and you'd say it's a new course they all look the same to me. They all look alike and the child of Ireland Roy mcelroy guys talking Curtis strange a little while ago for the Michael Biggie podcast and I said to him did you ever or start a major championship with a quadruple bogey and he did not and not only worry macaroni start with a quad. He finished with a triple. He had a double along the way the only guy who had a worst day was foiled David Duval who had a thirteen on on one hole and made me by the way of the old Tom Weiskopf wine. I'd number twelve at Augusta. How'd you make a twelve various? It was easy. I'm knocking on in ten and two-putted so worry mcelroy who now will be five years us from his last major championship had one of the nightmare beginnings I can ever remember for a Great Golfer at a major championship and certainly one being played in his home country. Well very interesting to me Mike because Eh not now our our and a half ago I got through reading a story <hes> about him in which he was very vehemently running away I mean aggressively running away from the idea that this <hes> open was more important important to him than any other open and everyone wanted to thrust him into you know the the local hero thing and the national hero thing and he wanted none of it and said that it's I just doing his for me not with the country <hes> and it's no more in a tried to get them just bite and say that this that he had been right you know charged up with this than any other open given that you know what's this historic moment for for the Golfing and sports really is the biggest sporting event to take place in Northern Ireland in any of our lifetimes and then for him to go out and lay an egg like that. I don't know where his mind was. Frankly I think it's a fairly hit it out of bounds on one and hit. If they had been doing Bob they've been doing pieces says all week about how there was out of bounds on the right to left they were showing the white stakes which usual and and he wasn't his tee shot. You always think that the nerves will be on your opening tee shot. It was the second shot book looking woman cellphone Mike I will. He literally broke a woman cellphone. Did it is tee shot out of bounds Mike and then he ended up with a quad bogey the eight he finished with a triple bogey. He at the moment that we're broadcasting is tied for one hundred thirty fifth place. <hes> chances are he's not coming back from this and the and of course he's going to be hard pressed even make the cut cut and that's you have to wonder if everything that you alluded to Bob the reason he was sort of a shoeing any feeling about hey. I'm not the national hero here trying to win for the is because he didn't want that pressure and it got too anyhow I mean that's a disastrous round of golf considering. He played there when he was ten years old. For the first time he shot the course record there when he was sixteen that's at least two times that he played the course which is to more than most of the golfers offers who are playing there today because many of them never even saw this course and you know it needs to be mentioned for people who are not goff vans that lack of familiarity with a course Mike. You can speak to this better than I can't it. It's the reason the tiger woods feel so at home at Augusta you know and can mentally walk himself around that course when he's lying on his one thousand miles away. If you don't know what you're dealing with on of course like this you have an enormous handicapped so everybody thought ought mcelroy was going to have this benefit because he lives there. He's played the areas the course record there and for a guy who seemingly knows what to expect he acted like he was on the moon and he's now out of this tournament and it's it's a shame and yeah Bob. Everything you said is obviously but he had become whether he was doing it. I he had become the face of this thing okay and it's been almost a year long process in in the run-up to this and there is no more popular guy out there than worry. I mean he's popular is there any player is in the world of among fellow players among the media. He's that kind of guy and I and to see this curtis strange said that when he when he woke up and realized what was happening that early in the tournament he said all the air came onto me because he just knew what a great story it was if we're even in contention this week and then then Bob. He kinda played himself back into this he played one under from the first hole to do. I guess a Fifteenth Sixteenth then he makes another double then he makes another double now. He's back to five over and then of course the eighteenth became a complete. You know what show and it's just a shame because you guys have heard me say this before. Mitchum bobby both say this. I still think when he's playing at his best his best might be better than anybody else's and that includes Brooks kept guy and we'll get to him in a minute because stopped me. If you've heard this one again on the first day of a major championship he's to under after ten and two shots off the lead okay but this is a shame just in terms of of the story that we hoped we might find at Royal Portrush no question and I was struck by the tone that he that he adopted about this whole thing defensive it's of Bob. It's hard enough to win these things and when they when you hear golfers talking about tournaments being played in their hometown regular tournaments and the pressures they face or eight and Mitch Imbaba. How about this how about when you hear about a ball player in the world series going hold you back to his home town? Oh my God I you know I had meanwhile there really is hometown true hometown guy in the tournament and that's Grand Mcdowell and so but but he doesn't have in the stature naturally the international stature of Rory mcilroy but the truth in fact that he literally is a hometown boy was an match guys. We have to recognize that in addition to the pressure of being a hometown guy. He's he's living with five years of pressure. Let's face two thousand fourteen. He won the P._G._A.. And he won the British and he hasn't won a major sense and <hes> you know we've finished fourth at the masters and that was the best that he did there in two thousand fifteen and everybody keeps saying you know this is what he's he's going to break through this and what he's going to break. WE'RE GONNA return to form. This is what he's thirty and there's that's a lot of pressure on you. When you gone five years without winning a major when everybody thought you were going to win a ton of them and you turn thirty years old old and you're going home and here's supposed to be your best chance at it and on the very first hole you kinda recognize that you're probably already out of it making thirty kind of stuff like he's two steps away from the home no but house there are twenty golfers in their twenties who are who are doing better than him golfer in his twenties better than him but he's not kid? The point is he's not a kid anymore. We went through through this with many of them. One most notably the one that I always charted that that when realizing that as the stages went with Sergio and you know we all were introduced to Sergio when he was absolutely a kid running down that fairway and Chicago where that shot went and all right now you know she's elder statesman now. He's late thirties but I point is that you know he was a kid. He's not a kid now that's all and that's he's in another another stage of his career and his successes in two thousand thousand twelve fourteen fifteen th they're not they're now you know and Players Championship this year which is in which is good as the fifth major now he's Mitch. He's had a really good year. He's just not played as well all in the majors as I thought he would this year but you you can't chop it around and win the Players Championship. Well Okay one the players championship but <hes> you know in terms of majors in terms of being at the top of the game that I think Mike is is sometimes more frustrating. You know when you're playing pretty well but you consider your your measurement in your career is not to do pretty well and it's not even to win the Players Championship. It's to win majors and you were doing it you five years ago at at at a at a clip that had a lot of people say well. Let's start doing the count towards Jack Nicholas and now you're not that guy anymore and here you have this great opportunity in your in your what supposedly a home court advantage and and you and you blow it and you know and so I'm not surprised he you know after that first bogey it it wasn't it wasn't the last and clearly ending on that note and ending with a triple bogey on eighteen. You know you want you. gotTa wonder what he's GonNa. Come Out and do tomorrow we need he'd have to he'd have to literally lead the field and then some just to make the cut and we're going to see I'm curious press conference and all the rest of it but I'm I'm with you listen. I'm not down on my like boy mark macaroni. I would've loved to have seen him play well. I think he's he's a name that needs to be back in the mixed winning you know and not just back in the mixed hovering but it ain't gonNA happen this week. He's you know it's funny in and again. We're having this conversation as the first round is very much in progress but I I was thinking today. If you had told me somebody who's GonNa make a big number it would be Jordan spaeth and then he was going along quite nicely and was three-under-par until Oh by the way he made a double and guys over the last year and again he hasn't fallen off. The map is just not played as well as he did. When he was win a majors boy does he make a lot of big numbers boy does he hit a lot of crooked shots in big moments and and so he double bogey makes a double on the par-four eighth and it takes him back to one under par and every time I see his name Mitchum Bob on the leaderboard? I say oh good because I believe the sport is way more interesting. When Jordan spieth is contending for major championships there was a you know there is a some or some kind of mystery about what exactly is the it that is the ball striking Bob and I think he is is actually everything I hear is he's trying to make some changes in his swing and and Mitch? I'll tell you something to things you never wanNA hear golf swing change more golf club change because you know that that that something either they've done one thing for money meaning the Golf Cup change or they have to make the swing change but it usually success does not immediately follow one either one of those things colleagues either. One of you know who <hes> <hes> Brandon hearkens Derek fat our Kelly craft or J._t.. Post in our and they're all Americans. They're all four unfamiliar names to me. I'm sorry by the way <hes> Phil Mickelson who has over the years enjoyed playing over in England in Ireland is five over for the day too fast didn't match the fasting didn't work all he's in the middle of pizza right now. Apparently the fasting and the fifteen pounds philly mic drop didn't work. Work out for him as well as he might have hoped I do WanNa go on record because I frequently am Chris Criticizing the opposite here so I do WanNa go on record and say I like to take my hat off to the Gulf media and these sports media in general for not picking Tiger Woods to somehow find a way to win this thing in fact the articles leading up to this. We're all the opposite they were all making excuses for woods already saying that you know the the weather is going. They do terrible things to his back and <hes> you know that damp <hes> kind of was so forget that he doesn't really have actually watched one of those read one of those things where they have you know five or six gougers together and they say so you know what kind of chance you give Tiger Woods and there's always one of them that says I think he's going to win and all of them said not a chance not a chance and so you know I salute the ability to break away from that pack mentality. I do find it interesting. I'm sure you guys saw this common to that. Perhaps as a defense against what he perceives. He's not going to be a great result in this the last of the of the majors he said the masters really took a lot out of me yeah. That was an interesting comment. You know I'm not sure how to take that. He did take I believe him. I actually I believe him. I and what I what does that mean. I'd think he's still I think that even though it was April Mitch I still think that that he is. I don't want to say in the afterglow of that but I still think he is living in his life and his career in the shadow of that and I think he also realize something which I do I think he saw how much it took out of him. Even on of course he loved in conditions that warm conditions that were great for his back. I I just think he realized how much it took for him to do that and and I'm glad you brought them up because I really wonder and I know listen. There were times when I thought he'd never went another major. He did was one of the great sports stories of this this year but seeing how he has played since in the majors and Mitch. Did you hear Nick Faldo say today when they asked him about a chance he says I like him better warm you know what is he a steak and so I think courses like who knows he right now. He's played three holes. He's made three par so far and the conditions even though they look not great they seem Mitch and Bob. They seem to be pretty benign right right now. It wound Predator yet as in. It's been raining on and off but not but that's the sweaters I see some guys in shirtsleeves so I don't think it's been as extreme as in the sixties they sits in the low sixties but <music>. I'm GonNa say this about the comment. Took a lot out of me you know and again. I don't know how he meant it. It can be read to to see like wow okay well. We need to empathize with that. You know Tiger Woods took off basically the month prior to this to the travel around Thailand with his family which God bless him good for him you know he's this is a man who doesn't need to justify stepping away from gop at any point for the rest of his life but he's played you know barely a around of golfing between majors agers and you're not gonna stay sharp for majors doing that so choice. I don't think he can play a lot of golf anymore. Mitch this is completely different but what people don't know about Hogan after the car accident he only played six or seven tournaments a year. It's why his record in the ninety early nineteen fifties was extraordinary because his legs just wouldn't allow him. I'm not in any way comparing tiger woods back issues to nearly getting killed getting hit by a bus but what I'm saying is it's going to be very interesting to see going going forward what his schedule is like because one of the things I think he met without saying it. was that that I just I don't think his back can stand up to a lot of grind of tournament golf. Now I'm not saying I should've taken a month off and if he wants to win this thing there is like almost a fallback default. They wasn't he when he said the other day. I'm rusty wanted to say well. No Shit Sherlock right. I mean yeah you rusty because she took yourself out out of it in you know it's interesting because we just had this discussion in a few days ago on the podcast about Serena Williams and she finds herself in a similar situation that drove them yet at the relative ages. You'd need to play a certain amount of your sport to stay sharp but your body at that age can only take so much which playing and you're in a catch twenty two play too much and you're worn out by the time you get to the majors and you risk injury play too little and you can't stay sharp enough board nowhere in that equation is a month off to vacation in Thailand. That's that's sort of your wrong kind of thing that you throw into it but if this is going to be tiger woods as pattern than this is going to be tiger woods this challenge all the tongue sean is gonna be sharp enough to play in a major when he has to take enough time off to rev up for a major major. It's great analogy with with Serena it is because she knows her body and her knees especially can't stand up to the grind but even when she gets to the final in the again we talked about this the other day mentioned Bob. It's not easy see to get to a major championship. You GotTa Win Six matches basically over twelve days and then but when she has gotten there that she is just not physically emotionally and mentally strong enough to win these matches which is why she's got her. She's got kicked around the way she has the less but Tiger Mitch one hundred percent right tigers in the exact same boat if I play more maybe I'm ready for major championships but if I do play more than than maybe my back back is GonNa give out and again. I I'd be shocked if he contends here but again after the masters it's very difficult for me to completely right him off. Despite how little golf he's played since April listening to all this I thinking that the looking more and more how more and more amazing as an exclamation point to his career that winning this master's was and the <hes> did he doesn't have to do if he retires on on the Ninth Co after the after the ninth today says you know what that's it. I don't need him. You know his his legacy is so fixed so secure so so you know his unique <hes> stamp on the game because of everything he meant not just as a as a player but as a as a as a cultural symbol of you know he's fine I mean I don't think that's happening. I mean he's still got oh. I it's not saying if we don't know I think I think you guys have well identified. The what the challenges what the circumstances <hes> and and people who follow the sport closely I think everybody can relate to accept it and and whatever happens happens there with the way by the way when we talk about Rory Mitch and Bob when we talk about more worry struggling the way he has at the at this major championship in the first round okay I saw this the other day here Jack Nicklaus's results at the open championship from sixty three to eighty two you ready third second type for twelve first second tied for second tied for six. I tied for second fourth third type for third type for second second. I tied for second tie for fourth north. Are you kidding me saying we know that in addition to the H. E. Champion just one thousand nine hundred up and we knew that but mike that we might throw into thirds and if we can shift data accomplishment of we can shift the accomplishment of adding in the thirds and thinking in terms of Olympics and the podium and right now that Brian How many times Mike Seven so visits yeah how many metal stand visits right and by the way Mitchum Bob just did. I don't WanNa get stuck on Nicholas here but here's the greatest Golfer of all time okay he he pointed out on twitter the other day that he began his first British open with a Birdie when he was a teenager teenager and they showed the last he ever made at the British show which was of course is somebody said of course the whole gut in the way of another Jack Nicklaus Putt and it's why you guys know I get shaved every time I hear well. Tiger cigarette is best with no no no no no died eighteen seconds eighteen I that record just at the open I just talked to you about tigers the greatest player ball time when he gets to nineteen majors and not a second before that before we move on. I just want to tell you about gyco okay. This is a thirty second commercial and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you but please stay with me in just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance this company. She has been offering great rates and great service for over seventy five years and anytime you need help you can speak to one of their trained specialists twenty four seven the company is Gyco. Go to GEICO DOT COM today. Sorry the the numbers in five three to one. I'm out of time. Let's shift gears here. <hes> the college football players are out on the turf now around America even though it's a hundred hundred degrees in <hes> in many places where they're working out and that means that we're starting to hear from the coaches as they start to talk about their teams. I've got a parting shot coming up a little later on Oklahoma situation with Jalen hurts Nick Sabin came out and made an interesting comment in the last day or so about the transfer portal which as you know is introduced in two thousand eighteen allowing players to transfer provided they can get a waiver from the N._C._A._A.. Now we all remember for a time when transferring basically you had to show that they had burned your dorm room down had chased you off campus. You were suffering from major illnesses. There was a terrible thing at home. You have such hardship hardship that they finally said all right well under these circumstances on the fact that they closed the university that you were playing for. We'll let you transfer to another school now. Basically it's a little bit like getting medical marijuana in California Nja supposedly you need a doctor's no but the matter people running around with it suggests that there are too many doctors giving notes or something to the matter what the system and now players are able to transfer basically if they want to <hes> you know it's a little harder than that but <hes> if they want to in Nick Sabin says and here's the quote I think the spirit of the transfer portal in and of itself as a positive thing for players you know I think when we started with the transfer Puerto was a mechanism for players to be able to say I'm transferring so everybody knows that I'm transferring so if that creates opportunities for me to go to other places then it's a good thing for the player then he continued the issue with the transfer portal is we've gotten very liberal in giving people people waivers so when we do that it becomes free agency which I don't think is good for college football. I don't think it's good for fans now. Guys I know what you're thinking as I'm reading this Nick Sabin Mr Hey I have have the moving van on speed dial for my next offer may not be the guy who you want to hear about free agency being bad for college football since it's very very present for the coaches. What do you think about this hypocrisy? Oh I think it's hypocrisy. I mean we you. We've all talked about this. Many times and I can understand the problems with players having complete freedom of movement in college football before they're technically appropriate but the idea that coaches and not just in college football but in college basketball can up end move whenever they want. We've Mitch and Bob. How long have we talked about this on Sunday mornings? Okay the minute coach who recruited crudity leaves you on. I've always believed you ought to be able to leave because even if it's the same school it's not the same set of circumstances that you signed off for and there's another kid standing there was hat in his hand watching them the moving van you just described Mitch pull away so the idea that this threatens the foundations of college sports. Well Okay Okay Nick. If you believe that then obviously he's going to stay at Alabama now probably for the rest of his career that I probably shouldn't say that right away. Okay Sixty Seventy Michigan State L._S._U.. The My high he wasn't coaching college kids with the Miami Dolphins but they probably Mitch. They probably thought it was going to be forever with the dolphins to the we moved very quickly gentlemen. Element <hes> if in the World College football particularly from the point in time when the old transfer rule was was quite <hes> simple you if you transferred use out a year to suddenly only somehow the within the then we got the <hes> the new thing about if you can <hes> graduate players people who have graduated but who have retained collegiate eligibility <hes> can transfer and for a fifth year <hes> A- and go which we I personally heard about doing this it was prominent was in fact was Russell Wilson and now that's common thing and both football and basketball the and and it's lead to some real evils in basketball of poaching on smaller our schools by the way and now we got this thing this transfer portal. I don't know when I'm trying to loved that expression by the way how recent was ice transfer portal how well how recent term crept into our two thousand eighteen PORTA portal's last year yeah very very firm now in in all kinds of things but remember what you have to show hardship ship Bob and hardship was defined much differently you remember in which a was it. <hes> Justin fields complained that a bulldogs baseball player yelled the racial slur at him <hes> during a game and so he needed to transfer for like his safety now. I'm not downplaying the heinous nature of any kind of racial slur but this didn't used to be the reason that you could transfer a school now. It is and pretty soon. It's going to just become I mean the definition of it is a transfer is due to this is a quote. They're allowed to take the field for their new team without the one year. Wait if of quote the transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the student athletes control and directly impact the health safety and wellbeing of the student athlete well pretty soon. They're going to get to Mike exactly what you said. I was recruited here. A certain promises and my coach is now gone and I'm uncomfortable. I'm not safe. There's a there's a word that's used on college campuses all the time. My safety doesn't feel the same. I'm not I'm not I'm not as confident Blah Blah Blah Blah and next thing we know they're they're going to be transfer now. What's the downside of this from a from the colleges point of view okay forget about the fans who have gotten used to having you know that star player there <hes> you know every year there's turnover in college football because of players graduating so you can't complain that well now? We got to get used to new guys. There's there's new guys all the time. So what exactly is the downside Mike. If you at Boston College decided in your junior year that there was a program over at Harvard that you just really wanted to get into your senior year and graduate nobody would stop you. If you had degrades to do it. Nobody would stop any of us if we were flute players players for for a university orchestra. We got a better offer to to to play at a different school. We'd go so what how does it actually hurt. The school does for a player to jump around now. It doesn't because and Mitch none of us would would attempt to draw the tortured analogy between the Free Agency say that we've just witnessed in the N._B._A.. And College Free Agency okay. These guys are getting rich. They're making money behind beyond avarice. The the college player is making money beyond avarice for their schools and their coaches and all that other stuff there is no downside the idea if you say that this somehow attacks the underpinnings of college sports then how can you then turn around and say Oh isn't free agency great for professional sports. All this movement heightens interesting you can't you simply can't do it doesn't heightened interest though in terms of the team left behind the fans. I don't know I it it. The whole team left behind. Bob Can pick up another guy for another who wants to transfer in right right. I mean I think the answer we talking about that. The numbers thing you know just recruiting as an endless those processes become much more of an illness process in basketball than ever was in the old days being before all this <hes> transfers stuff happening. All the one and done stuff happened because <hes> you could actually take a year off if you had your roster set you know and there's longer now you know you can't do it. The the they're both the boat sports have to be vigilant about finding a replacement players if you will all the time never stops well. Let me ask you this Mitch. Let me ask you guys this because it goes back to the question you just I ask Mitch Okay. How is the University of Alabama ultimately negatively impacted if one player one star player doesn't WanNa play at that school anymore it isn't don't I mean you? You can't make that that case because they've got a second star player in a third star player behind here's where if it starts to become a rampant. Here's where you know in fairness. You have to look at the system. They have X.. X. Amount of scholarships scholarships are offered and scholarships are supposed to be for the length of the player <hes> going to school there even if he's not a starter presumably you know unless he does something to lose scholarship <hes> he doesn't lose it because he's not playing and he was on the bench now. Here's a guy takes off. You have X.. Amount of scholarships there you could end up the schools could argue like Whoa we're GONNA fall. Short scholarships going to end up with extra scholarships because we didn't know these guys. We're transferring Bob. That's about the biggest hardship you can make but you have to factor that against the fact and this can't be forgotten that there is another form of limited movement in the college game and it's called upward movement. You can't leave until your junior a year. This is not one in done right like it is in college basketball. You are stuck in college for three years with the only if you WANNA play go into a professional version of what you're there for you can argue the Canadian leave. You can argue you know X._F._l.. Except Bells forget it. There's one leak and it's the N._F._l.. And they're not taking you until you're after your junior year so that's a limit a second limited form of movement on the players so they can't move up and they can't move sideways until now the the more liberal portal real thing I I think they just have to grin and bear it and if this is going to be the new form I'm with you Mike. I could accept the rule if they said okay you gotta stay the school. If the coach recruited you an offer you a scholarship you gotta stay there but the minute your coach leaves that automatically qualifies you for a waiver and you don't need to show any more hardship than that the minute that guy who recruited you leave because it does change things up sorry because they pick places to go based on a coast saying. I'm GONNA give you a chance to play and suddenly the other coach comes in and says I didn't recruit you. I promise somebody else's going to get the chance to play then you absolutely aren't there for the right reason and you should be allowed to transfer. It's Mitch in complete applete lockstep with you and all of that makes perfect sense but let's get back to how this conversation started VICI BOB hand wringing from Nick Sabin doesn't really play here. Okay granny what let's <hes> extent expand this. This is not the only thing that he said this week that commands attention or the has news if you will did you take note that he gave as a reason for <hes> you know basically for for not being able to be Clemson is that the distraction caused by <hes> assistant coaches looking for head jobs. A guy had affected the team in an adverse way that the concentration of the key of of people these assistance looking for who are in line for head jobs was was lacking and in this was a definitely a detriment to our cause. How about that one? I I must say in a lifetime literally a lifetime of following allowing Colorado sports when you when you think you may have ever use not this. This is a dog ate my homework excuse of extrordinary in an extraordinary degree. How about that one? I just I'm telling I just I. I don't know it's but you realize guys that we are dealing with. Someone who who strict diet means eating too little Debbie oatmeal cream pies everyday for breakfast so i. I don't think you can have the Mitch. I don't think you can have full understanding things. I thought I was going to year when I started this podcast that wasn't not we're not just here to entertain Mitch. We are here to educate as well okay. It's a little Debbie oatmeal cream pies okay and if you we to every day someday you can lose to Clemson in the big game to there's a commercial in that for sure. Let's let us shift gears one more time over to the <hes> national pastime baseball interesting on the national a lot about we talked a lot about the American league in the Yankees at the Red Sox and all the but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on the National League side with Philadelphia and Washington <hes> who have ah each in their own ways spent a lot of money to get where they are but with varying degrees of success Mike we were talking before the show that you found the situation in Philadelphia to be particularly inter-arab Match Mitch. It is fascinating. Okay 'cause just the two teams you mentioned the nationals who don't have bryce harper anymore or a better baseball team than the Phillies who spent three hundred thirty million to get Bryce Harper Start Their Mitch and Bob. I believe that if the phillies had not come back in the bottom of the night the other night against the dodgers and had lost that game Gabe Kappler would no longer be the manager of of the Philadelphia Phillies and for all they've done all the money and they have had some injuries. Is All that stuff okay. They were built to win this year. They are now in third place in the National League East. They are as likely to get passed by the mets as they are to go past the nationals and the Atlanta Braves and guys. I'll tell you this. The nationals quietly become one of the great stories of the baseball season because they were gone Bob. They had a bullpen that actually I just GonNa Shock. You look worse than the one that the Boston Red Sox have okay that's and now they they are looking the braves and thinking what we can catch them. Mitch memory had a conversation the maybe they'd moved Sherzer this year the way the Tigers sorry to bring back Steiger's. I note upset you but but all of a sudden now you're looking at them and thinking they they got they got Strasbourg. They got sure they got Corbin. They will take their chances the rest of the way and phillies right now guys. That's a city that that you both have ties to okay. They are one of the major disappointments of the baseball season. Yeah I don't know I it's going to be surprising to survive. I thought he was an odd choice when they hired outside totally outside the box and I applauded it only because I had fond memories of of dealing with him when he was with with the Red Sox he was unusually it just really unique personality that I ever dealt with an in baseball and rooted for him this be successful but he wasn't outside the box choices no question and he's had these Faux Pas starting off last year when he had <hes> an improper pitcher in warmed up in the game and then I guess the other day forgot how many outdoor I'm told that some somehow someway Mitch you know what Phillies fans are like yeah. There's not a lot of patients in this city of Philadelphia and maybe they just thought that Bryce Harper was gonna carry them and maybe they all sort of you know relaxed a little bit. I I don't know what I mean. You know. Harper's have an all right season right. You know all right. Seventeen home runs wants at this point in ninety seven R._B._I.. Is You know he's hitting fifty five all right all right and not leading the way though and you know and not inspiring and you know you can collect those numbers a lot of different ways you know this the difference between getting a home run in the third inning of some game that you lose five to two and getting home run in the bottom of the knife and to win the game so there hasn't been a lot of heroics. There have been some but not a lot of heroics in the you know. I think when you spend. Banak kind of money and you get that kind of headlines and you excite the fan base that way you are like rory mcilroy going home you are you're carrying a lot of invisible. Wait on your shoulders and to date. They haven't been able to shrug that off whereas Washington d lighter team because they don't have that again we bob. We have seen this a million times. Between the three of us in sports. Take away an expectation a team over performs layer expectation a team can under pro. I mean this is hardly a news story. Remember Mitch we talked about this. We talked about this. When Harper went to the phillies and one of the one of the examples we always use this Peyton manning never won a national championship at Tennessee and then he left Tennessee and they went a national championship without him? I am sure national fans are delighted that their team is better. What are they one hundred fifty miles apart? Whatever it is okay they are delighted that their teams playing and I'll tell you look at it the phillies? I don't know what you guys think. I don't see him pulling out of this feel good about it. No no no question you know he's he's always actually he may actually driving one hundred runs for the second time only in his career at the pace but Mitch you talk all the time about when you look at the numbers with Bryce Harper and yes he has won an m._v._p.. And he gets all this money and then what is he not this year. He's not an all star. Neither is Manny Machado. That's six hundred thirty million bucks right tair right to not make the also make the imagine they had bonuses in their contracts. Yeah I mean but it's that that division because of because of the bryce Harper factor and Mitch Mitch by the way what did he do. He walked through the transfer portal. We in fairness people listening to us. We can't talk about the least without talking about Atlanta who has surprised everybody Salaam. I got so much talent. The reason those teams Philly in Washington are games behind is because Atlanta has over performed. Wouldn't you say yeah and Dallas Kyko Bob Dallas Kaikal long before the trade deadline but you know picking up Dallas Cycle later than anybody thought that Kyko would be out there he has fit in great there and he has been boy. I'll tell you what they will take his their chances with him pitching a big game in October he <hes> I believe is I start with not good but since then yes it turns out to be one of the big but I love H I love watching a play. Oh my God they they're so young. They are so talented every time they bring another kid out of the minor leagues. It seems like he hits three home runs the first week he's up in the big leagues they they are really fun to watch in every conversation we have about who are the best of the best in baseball this year. They kind of get lost a little bit but guess what Mitch they're going to have to play now because the nationals are coming for well. They're closing the gap as is by the way the Cleveland Indians the closing the gap. We talked about that again minutes playing so good twins should be nervous. I think the twin Chen them. The twins just got swept by my my mets. My mets beat him fourteen to four yesterday and by the way there's so many interesting stories happen in baseball guys look into where the San Francisco giants out of nowhere out of nowhere one twelve twelve to fourteen and kind of injected themselves into the wildcard conversations nice to have a stable managing situation too. Isn't it and you know what Botchy I hope. I hope he's in play in September because what an extraordinary career career he has had a speaking of careers. I want to pay homage. <hes> sports reporters homage <hes> you were talking about the braves and ten years into his career Freddy Freeman having Donna Hall of fame trajectory and Yeah I mean his career is eight eighty two this year. It's nine fifty eight hour Schwan. I know you know these numbers. Make some of us you know Barf but the ups plus which means that if hundred is the baseline for an the average player average his opium plus numbers going back of backwards from two thousand nineteen thirty go through ten thirty nine you ready hundreds average one forty seven one thirty nine one thirty two one fifty seven one fifty five one thirty eight and one forty one and his career is one thirty seven. This guy is unknown star and Mitch. How great was it in the all-star game that they had him might and you could hear the by play between him and Ver- lander when he came up in the first in and it was just one of my favorite parts of the whole all star game evening and as long as we're throwing Hosanna is that the Atlanta Braves about Mike Sirocco you know they drafted him at a Bishop Carol High School in Calgary Alberta? I don't know how far you have to travel to go there. Baseball season must be very short up in Calgary Alberta and they picked them. You know late in the first round and here he is ten and one <hes> you know all twenty one years years old and he's ten along with two point two four Mitch not the coolest not the coolest hometown of Canadian pitcher ever though that would have to be swift current Saskatchewan Reggie Cleveland registered on Reggie Cleveland the man who wants to and eighteen hit complete game victory on the twenty fifth September nineteen seventy seven we'll we we can talk about that and we all know they'll be someone eventually from Moose jaw will be well. There has been hockey player quickly before we parting shots just a word on because you can't have a podcast in sports anymore without mentioning something happening in the N._B._A.. Players moving so this has less to do with somebody move then who is either can't be moved or might be moving and that is Chris Paul who was supposed to just be going through the portal transfer portal as we say and heading out of you know into Oklahoma City in exchange for Russell Westbrook and then out of Oklahoma City possibly to Miami simply looks like nick has been stalled and might end up having a play the year in Oklahoma no yeah God forbid play where you were traded to and meanwhile Andre Medalla who is right now looking at a year in oblivion with the Memphis Grizzlies is being pursued by two of the biggest winners in free agency that being the the clippers in L. A. and the Houston Rockets who I think given you know whether it's Kawai and and Paul George or whether it's the a assemblage of of of Russell Westbrook now and James Harden and Houston either one of those teams benefit greatly by putting all Houston match Mitch. Don't you agree that and again we I had a pretty harsh field view of how this partnership between Mr Westbrook Mr Hardin that has been rejoined in Houston is going to Work Andre Iga. DALA would be exactly what the doctor ordered in Houston Bobby. Don't you think so oh yes he would. He would be with the doctor if he were to go to either L._A.. Lakers balance of power out there and now he's in to you know he's just not you know he's got enough left in tank. <hes> I think to be a very useful player used properly when the white minutes and so forth he brings so much table in in in so many ways and offensively and and and you know as as a stable big brother presence <hes> boy I'd love to h. e. championship experience and Defense on teams unselfishness selfishness and there's a need to score although he can but he doesn't need to score neither one of those teams Mitch. I just think I speak for all of us going back to how we started the N._B._A.. Converse we just want Chris Paul to be happy. Don't don't we go honestly Chris. Paul seems happier in his commercials than he does bring basket. Just talk about telepathy talk about Telepathy Mitch. I was just thinking about him. I swear to God there's a lot of happier when he was younger all right. It's time for our parting shots and Mike Luke wanted to lead us off. Hurting trade deadline in baseball isn't what the opening of free agency was in the N._B._A.. Because nothing has ever been quite like that all that money being thrown around all those top players moving around but I still love the trade deadline. I love it because the names change every year. The subject always seems to be exactly the same. It's about starting pitching. It was about pitching when the Tigers traded away a kid name. Oh I don't know what happened to him. John Smoltz over at started to bring this up Mitch over thirty years ago to pick up a veteran named Doyle Alexander about pitching when the cubs got rick sutcliffe in eighty four and nobody could beat Rick until the padres did in the playoffs in the last game the cubs played that season it was about pitching when the Rangers got cliff in the range and the Yankees didn't and the Rangers went to the world series that year and the Yankees did not and it was sure about pitching when the Astros I got Justin Burland or sorry Mitch from the Tigers two years ago and Burland helped pitch them to a world series title the names this year Bumgarner and Stroman and Bauer. Maybe even Noah syndergaard of the mets and it's interesting though isn't it in a home run time when balls fly out of ballparks like golf balls. Nobody talks about picking up home runs at this time of year. It's always about pitch gentleman. The last pioneer from baseball's ace falls shameful segregationist era his died twelve years after Jackie Robinson Integrated Major League baseball for the first time since the eighteen eighties Elijah pump see green a Negro entered a game as a pinch runner for the Boston in Red Sox in one thousand nine fifty nine and his first at-bat he had a triple now after a spectacular spring training the infielder should have been on the opening day roster but what sucks owner. Tom Yawkey said quote the Red Sox. We'll bring up a Negro when he meets our standards unquote by the way finished <hes> seventy nine seventy five record year before oh by the way during that Spring Training pumped see was forced to stay in phoenix seventeen miles away from his teammates in Scottsdale. That's just the way things where you know his red sox. Can we are would last three hundred twenty seven games before he was traded to the mets now. After retirement he had a long career as a counselor in coach in his native Oakland. Here is what current Red Sox owner John Henry had to say about pump see green quote he was by his own admission a reluctant pioneer but we will always remember him for His grace and perseverance and becoming our first African American player unquote pump see green was eighty bucks. I get the college football coaches like to keep things close to the vest they often act like in the field military generals where one loose lipped might sink a thousand ships but you have to wonder if Oklahoma's Lincoln Riley isn't hurting his own 'cause or at least being disingenuous when he says the jalen hurts his senior transfer quarterback from Alabama has to quote win the job I do we need to remind Riley that hurts was and never stopped being one of the top quarterbacks in the country when he was leading Alabama to a twenty six to record as a starter with a forty eight and twelve touchdown to interception ratio and that's at Alabama not some junior college hurts transferred only because to a tag obey Loa aw one more time hurts transferred only because to tag obey Loa supplanted hurts his greatness with slightly greater greatness now hurts is it Oklahoma which specializes turning transfers into stars witness Baker Mayfield and Cutler Murray but neither of them came in credit with credentials like jalen hurts nonetheless Riley's insisting asked to win the job from now. Get this a redshirt freshman and a true freshman. That's his competition. Hey if hurts a senior loses a position to a redshirt freshman or a true freshman that must be an awfully complicated system. Riley is running every now and then you'd like to hear a college coach say hey who kidding this kids are starter but that would take the four-star star general provider out of the job and how then would they be able to justify treating hoosier starting quarterback like a military secret. That's going to wrap things up for today's edition of sports reporters. We do this podcast Mondays and Thursdays so we'll be back in a few days after the weekend we'll see who survives the rain and the newness of the course out of the British open amongst many other topics. If you like what you heard leave us a common if you didn't like what you heard leave us a comment and you can get this podcast anywhere on eight.

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"Three months ago, American sports stopped crazy. Thought within the realm of possibilities assist seem more like out of a movie than reality the NBA shutdown, and it'll be postponed its season. The PGA tour was mid tournament at the players, and it all came to a screeching halt commissioner made the right call with our with our nation. In in this health epidemic, it was the right call. But this week the tour returns Gulf is back down in Fort. Worth, than South Carolina Connecticut Detroit Ohio all over the country. Today. We're catching everyone back up to speed with. Where we left off in this game. Pretend storylines you forgot about things you need to remember ways. This tour season will be unlike any other right here on the drop zone. Dylan. Golf is back. It's back coming right back. Yeah, little bits and pieces, but now we've got something closer to the full thing. Yeah, and I'm excited. I know that It's going to be one of the first tour one of the first main sports to come back right. I think that's very important Gulf has never been free from competition. Usually, the masters gets great ratings, because not a whole other other sports are happening, but right now literally the only other thing that Gulf can compete with or has to is Nascar so in that right. The ratings are going to be big I mean it's one of those funny things, right? We've talked about golf having a overexposure. There's too many tournaments. There's no off season now here. We are feels like we had an offseason, and then we had a couple of tournaments in the now we've had. Had this other massive off-season? So now we're really coming back. There's not over exposure and and we've got the eyes of the sports. World should be on the Charles Schwab Challenge. Yeah, the sports, and hopefully the years of the sports world with a podcast. We've put together ten storylines that you people need to remember what happened before this midseason off season Dylan. You'RE GONNA. Start it out. Yeah, there were no questions that Roy mcelroy left unanswered last year, and considering that and considering his form I am buying that Roy will finish in the top five I'm GonNa Start Sean by telling that rory. mcilroy and Justin Thomas are your front runners for player of the year. And I'll I'll give you a quick rundown as to why this is not a shocker, but it bears repeating you member Rory won the tour championship end of last year kind of like a career defining moment beat Brooks Koepka. He's arguably been even better this year he had a couple of good finishes. Start the fall season then he won the WGC HSBC champions. Like the continent tournament over there. But then listen to his last six starts. He his last seven starts. Third First Fourth Third Fifth Fifth Fifth. All top five. Top fives bunch of top fives. He's been ridiculous. He is showing no signs of slowing down or stopping being the top ten machine that he was last year. What I don't understand is that rory has done this now. Kind of on repeat for more than like a year and a half he'll take a break for a month and come back and finish in the top five like there's nothing that has undercut him. No break has been any significant break for him. So I I mean. This is the most significant break. He did not swing a golf club for seven weeks. So can he sustain what he was putting together? I don't think it's possible while and I think that one of the big questions. Questions coming back is like. Are we going to see some sort of re shuffling of the top echelon of the tour, or is it going to be business as usual and that would mean in addition to Roy at the top Justin? Thomas who has been sensational He won the BMW championship so he like. Rory finished off last Fedex Cup season style, but then this year he's piled up the top five two and wins. He won the CJ Cup. He won the tournament of champions than you know he's added. A third was just coming off t six in his last start at WGC Mexico, so Sean I guess the question for you would be. WHO's your front runner J. T. J. T. I think jt is because we saw him struggle beginning of last year and he was hurt. He's dealing with a wrist injury. Once that got healthy. He took off. We saw him win by a bunch in Chicago last year. Then he goes on wins in the fall wins again in the winter, so JT's favourite. Even though rory really would be the betting favourite, I mean the only flukes here jt missed two of his last four cuts, besides that he's top twenty every time out since last June now eleven wins before the age of twenty seven, all at experience of winning allowed to be so calm in the. Of Competition. Yeah, definitely helps you just able to kind of draw back on past experiences and. And you know things that maybe I did poorly in the past, but It's always nice playing trying to win it a police. You've already won an you know. I've only had that opportunity once other time in Malaysia but it's. It's pretty awesome all right? Let's continue storyline number two is that there is one major this year. I know that doesn't stand for the entire Calendar Year of twenty twenty, but in this PGA tour season there is one scheduled major championship. It's the TPC harding, Park Pga Championship it's only two months away like we're going to have major championship. Championship Golf. There's not a huge run up to a major league. We usually have January. February all of March leading up to the masters. We've got one this year. Whoever wins? It is going to have a great chance to win player of the year like if either of those two guys we just talked about when that event book it their player of the year well, we talked about golf, being like this sporting and getting lost in the shuffle, sometimes and now having this opportunity to shine. Shine, PGA Championship has that same opportunity right? There's no other majors around to distract US I know, but it happening in August means the NBA is going to be back in. The NHL is going to be back. They're going to be in the middle of their playoff swings I. Know the PGA Championship has always kind of struggled with its place in the sporting calendar, but people are gonNA. Be excited about other sports coming back, which makes me feel bad, but the end of that tour season think. Think about this thing about the absolutes sweepstakes. That will be happening. You have a WGC then. The PGA championship the next week. You have the Wyndham rewards in which the PGA tour Passover bunch of money. Then we have playoff event playoff event playoff event. I don't think there will have ever been a stretch in which more more Gulf or more money will be handed out on the golf course then that six weeks stretch. Yeah, good for you getting excited about the Wyndham rewards proud of you. That was a non sponsored segment by Sean sock but. I think the one thing that we should take away and keep in mind about this. One. Major season is a little bit of mourning for the Open Championship. That wasn't because. We're getting the US Open by you know by all accounts. There may not be fans, or they may not be many fans, but we're getting the masters that one's definitely gonNA happen. The open! Championship just didn't happen twenty twenty. That's too bad sunjay in the only rookie to make the tour championship and the two thousand eighteen nineteen season. This guy is a great player. No number three the ballot of Sunjay. M. is just beginning is or was gosh well I. Don't know we'll have to see when he comes back out because. There were a few guys that were hot. We talked about JT. We talked about rory, but in terms of like real immediate short term heat, there was no one hotter than Sunday he he won, and then he finished t three in his first two starts on the Florida swing. He had just gotten a new caddy. Well a couple of different caddies really. Changed seem to work for him. I mean the guy was on fire. He showed no signs of slowing down. He had risen to number twenty three in the world. You know he's. He's the top young player right now. Even though he's probably the least known him, some of these guys, so this felt like the era of Sung was just beginning, and hopefully he picks up left off I think people in the Gulf world were catching onto him, but outside of the Gulf world. Not many people know who sunjay Ms. can you at least detail his game? What's his game like well? From, a personality standpoint. His game is that he plays every week. Pretty much keeps to himself. He speaks a little bit of English, but not a ton, so he communicates through translator so a lot of American fans. You know haven't heard him talk. but he is just relentless. He hits this straight ball. He fires it pins. He literally did not have a home the last year because he just played every single week out he was the basically the best player on the web dot com to her then and now he's on the PGA tour and you know He. He was making a ton of cuts, and not necessarily contending, and now it seems like you flipped the switch I. Think it's cool that the whispers and rumors that everyone has heard about him dominating the web dot com to her come to fruition, he is the perfect. PERFECT FEDEX Cup player in my mind PJ. Tour has a ton of sponsorship money from Fedex, but it is the guy who plays every tournament. He's going to automatically if he plays well go to the tour championship every year. Because of the Cup points, he just racks up and racks up in rex up. He kind of is on the road all the time like fedexcup drivers I think they should do a little sponsors segment with Sunjay. Not Having a house doesn't have a home base, so he's He's kind of the banner boy for Fedex Cup and their sponsorship at the BJ tourist. Irregular on my draft kings lineup last year. Let's take a second to tell you about our friends. At draftkings, the PGA tour is back this week and look only one guy can be wearing that red plaid winner's jacket at the end of the Charles Schwab Challenge, but the big cash prizes those are available to everyone draft kings is the official daily fantasy game of the PGA tour. They're putting you in the center of the action with a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. Pick six golfers by the time tournament action tees off on Thursday. If those guys put up a bunch of red numbers, you or me or Sean are going to be winning some major green. To download the draftkings APP now and Use Code D. Z. to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. That is Code D., Z. only draft. Minimum five dollar deposit required deposit both requires twenty five time playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details all right continuing now with storyline number four Patrick read everyone's favourite PJ Golfer was winning. His way through. The haters is not that long ago. That Patrick read was caught doing little funny business down at the hero World Challenge Dylan. You're down there. That's seven months ago. Read showed up in Hawaii. He almost won the first event of the year he and the thing that was interesting about it as the people thought, he never get away from the haters, the fact that he moved some sand in a bunker behind his ball in a waste area. Have you whatever down in the Bahamas? They thought that he would get called a cheater everywhere he went. I thought it was really GonNa Happen to. We wrote about it, and it was following him. People yelled while he was in. In a playoff with justice Thomas He people yelled when he was down at the WGC. Mexico Championship winning like that's the thing that is going to remind people that this guy is a phenomenal gophers that he he gets the job done. He was one of the best players in the world I mean. We should have looked no further than the hero world challenge itself were almost came back to win on Sunday. Despite all of that madness, he finished third there then yet. He one WGC Mexico I mean. In terms of a guy that was hot, but maybe didn't mind the break. Maybe this is a good thing for Patrick read to get a little bit of heat off of him. I don't know people don't forget, but maybe they'll forget. That is very true. Also I mean this guy who's always been kind of ridiculed for things that he said about himself, his confidence, his bravado, the fact that I think a top five player in the world right now well. The seventh and on his way up to number five. He's never made it to number five, but he felt like he was on his way. I don't know if it's necessarily a good thing for him. One thing about Patrick reads. We really haven't heard from him. You know we've seen some of these guys in charity matches. Other guys have turned up in pro ams. The only thing I've seen from Patrick Reid. Reid is actually just stumbled on this interview with his head pro, at Carlton, Woods who has like a little youtube video that a couple of hundred people watch, and that's the only sign of Patrick read, but he said he's shed a bunch of weight for the the fast finishing stretch here. He's looking forward to some Chili Augusta fall weather You looked good. He says eating a lot of avocado eggs sausages. Sean Number Five, Phil Mickelson hadn't coffee I've got actively. Along baby. This is really your beat, but Phil Is. He's running out of US Open qualifying time. Things weren't looking. Looked like he was probably going to need an exemption Obviously, we've seen him recently at the match to. But Phil has the probably the most. Complex relationship with the US Jay which he only added to Shinnecock when he was playing hockey on the green, and you know he's got a number of runners up finishes there is he gonNA play in this US Open in September. No, I'M GONNA. Say No, why I just don't believe that he's playing good golf. We the last time we saw him, you know he's played pretty well in the California events to begin every year for his entire life, but last we saw him. He kinda spraying a little bit at medalist, Y-. The. I think the last thing you want to have happen when you're not playing well is to go on forced leave to have three months where you can just remind yourself every single day. You know I'm not playing that. Well I gotTA figure this out. He's only getting older Phil. Mickelson will have been fifty by the end of this month. No one pretty much. No one who is in the fifty years old and older bracket wins on the PGA tour. Phil's running out of time, and he's only signed up to play at the Charles Schwab. Challenge, at this point I'm sure he'll play at the moment. But right now. He doesn't have a whole lot of events before us. Open qualifying is over with so I mean it would be nice to see him. Get another crack at winged foot, but then it doesn't matter. The Guy Sprays it all over the planet. Are you sure that he's getting older? You tried that Coffee Diet. There's a little some well. I'll say this Benjamin Button in there I did see him at Rivera very very shortly. Before the coronavirus virus spread and I was shocked at how skinny he looked I did not think that he looked healthy now he'll swear to you that he is healthy. He swore to me that it's you know he's never felt better. I have to take him at his word. But on looks alone. Now exactly buying. He did that third place at Pebble. Though Sean. That's Kinda sticking with me could mean something. Yeah, third place in which Nick Taylor run away from him I'm not that impressed. But when you bring up, fail, you gotTA bring up. Tiger Tiger also was not playing good golf this spring. You know everyone is GonNa look back fondly on what he did winning in Japan and in plain, really really really good golf in the President's Cup, but then in the spring of twenty twenty. The Guy was not playing. Well like I think we're going to as a as a group, we're GONNA, look at that medalist finish, and and how? How well? He struck the ball off the tee and you know he's playing his home course so i. don't know you look at tigers finishes. He finished t nine at target. That's really good, but then at Genesis we're down at their. Riviera right. The I kind of mismatched some average rounds. The first two days finishes dead last on the weekend when he really stunk and then he couldn't find his body it a pull out of the Arnold Palmer invitational, so he couldn't play Bay hill which he always plays. He couldn't play the players because his back wasn't quite there. If Tiger has any weird back, stuff happened this year. He's just not going to play in the majors like it's a weird year. I don't think should be as optimistic about Tiger as normally. Are you guys? Thank Robert Damron. START US off. For breath or a red flag for Tiger Woods I truly hope I'm wrong, but I think it's a red flag. I think what we're seeing here is like a complete binary from tiger. He's either there in full, or he's like not there at all. Yeah, he's you saw him. At Zozo, he won looked completely in control all week. Presidents Cup looked like he was the best player. They're on the days that he was healthy enough to play the hero. He looked like he probably should've won that golf tournament. And then the farmers he contended also, but then like you mentioned, genesis didn't look like himself couldn't even play a couple of his favourite. Florida tournaments so I don't know I think we should be encouraged based on the guy we just saw, but the crazy thing. Sean Tiger has played three Fedex Cup events this year. So you look at, he's. He's adding twenty eighth in the Fedex Cup standings. If you look at guys that have played three fedexcup events, there's no one else inside the top one hundred and ninety six. So he's still more efficient with his starts than anyone else yet and I think with that in mind. He'll be efficient this summer. He needs to ramp up for September October November right if he's going to be involved in the Ryder Cup team, he'll want an Cup thing he'll want to be ready for that and raring to go. He'll probably want to play some of the playoff events, but really he's GonNa have his mind focused on winged foot in the US Open and eventually all leads to the masters where he's defending champion, so expect tiger to play before memorial, and honestly maybe only one of the memorial turn the Muirfield village tournaments, so don't expect tired. Come roaring back is. If? You're setting his schedule. Would you haven't played before Muirfield? I think he looked healthy enough during the match, his swing look strong enough that he can do it, but it's up to him. Man, it does it does not matter. his history course that was clear at the players at Bay Hill. If Tigers back is not ready, he's not going to give it a go unless it's a major go play. Rb Tiger. I'm sure he's listening all right. Let's pause for one quick message about Roman. Anyone who's dealt with erectile dysfunction knows how awkward it can be to talk about in person. 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He was seeing massive gains. He's continued to see massive gains, both when he steps on the scale, and also when he looks at the top of the driving distance, Charts Sean. This is not just like fun. And little snippets. Bryce into Shambo has transformed herself into arguably the best driver of the golf ball in the world I. Don't think he even got enough credit for that at the time, so it's worth giving him some now. And what what I? My question really is is like. Will this eventually be fruitful for him? Bryson has not played well in majors his entire life. He's one of the worst performers in majors. He's very young career, but has not made happen there in non major events. He's been one of the best tour players in the past three or four years. He's won a handful he's. He's got as many wins as ricky. Fowler has in his career so brazen. I wrote earlier this week. That of all people that can maybe going a heater this year I think Bryson's one of my first picks because you look at the summer events that we've got here. The three M open which Bryson won last year the memorial which he's one already, he's played. They're very well numerous times. He's played pretty well. RBC heritage like I said he's got multiple events at Muirfield village. The could be a summer of Bryson. I mean he's third and strokes gained off the tee I. Think People get caught up in like? Oh maybe he says some stuff that doesn't quite check out or is kind of ridiculous. It's a little bit of the Tom Brady thing where people are like Oh. Yeah, he's into the junk science. Whatever is ridiculous and then you can lose sight of the fact that this dude is you know forty three years old and playing quarterback in the NFL. It's the same thing with Bryson. Like did it make sense that? He said he felt like the wind was blowing him over after he won three of his last five, PGA, tour start, so we wanted to change his body. Maybe not, but now he's averaging three twenty one off the tee. He's hitting like insane ball speeds on live streams. Who knows? Knows what he's been really up to the last few months, but Bryson does deserve more credit than we'd probably give him. I know one thing this podcast you both we appreciate Bryson. We respect the chase and I think everyone else should respect the chase, but unfortunately there is no Olympic chase this summer I was really really looking forward to seeing some of the best Americans, the best English players and the Best Ozzy's like duke it out to see who can play in the Olympics and Tokyo. We saw like a hell of a competition brewing between Patrick Read Patrick Ken Lay and Webb Simpson to the last couple spots of the Americans I mean Tiger Woods zander bracing were right behind them. People were not paying attention to this and I was Kinda hoping that Tokyo would still happen. Because these summer events were going to be gigantic, and now as sad as it was to not have the Olympics this summer. This is a good thing. Because between now and the Olympics next year one year from this time we're gonNA have six majors six. Six majors we're GONNA have a bunch of WGC's. All of these things are gigantic events, all kinds of world ranking points. So you know you boy tiger who people were thinking didn't care about the Olympics. He's going to have all this time. All these big events to prove himself that he does care about the Olympics and really give I dunno one hell of. Of a chase Lee Westwood, Guy that was playing. Phenomenal. GOPHERS can have a bunch of big events to try and qualify so the at the Olympic Chase begins now I mean there's no one that looks like. They had better foresight than Tiger Woods for skipping the Players Championship. Maybe he was in on the Senate briefings I. Don't know yet some little inside early information. But now everything is back on the table. It's a little bit of a reset. You could really see an entirely new crop of these guys qualifying the Olympics and I mean I. Don't know we're GONNA. Have such a ridiculous golf schedule next. Well this fall, and then you know all of next summer. It's thirteen months folks. We are going to have back to events at Muirfield village. We will then have the TPC Harding Park Pj Championship three playoff events us open the masters Ryder Cup. Move it forward Masters Kiawah Island PJ championship US Open at Torrey have another British Open. And them the Olympics in Tokyo so it's just absolute madness for thirteen months I. Don't think I've quite got my head around. The fact that the masters is consecutive majors for just blink two in a row. Are Sean I WANNA. Take you through the twenty twenty. Fedex Cup season standings. You know what I like like you said Sunday was the perfect fedexcup player. Tell you what he is number one in the Fedex Cup standings. He's played fourteen events. He owns a little bit of a lead over jt. In Rory's. In third. Those guys have played a combined fourteen events. But. There's a couple more names on their. Brendon Todd remember him the fall of be todd. He's fourth. You've got a couple more guys Webb Simpson Patrick read. Those guys make sense mark leash men seventh Lonzo Griffin. Number eight remember him. He had a win. He played pretty well for a little stretch their. You remember what what event he won no comment. Do you actually honestly? I can't think of what it was. That's one of the tricky things here. Brendon Todd. He won a couple of aunts. In the fall, and when you said the fall of Brennan, Todd means a couple of different things because he hasn't really done much. Since the people, the other people who have won in this PGA tour season. Sebastian Munoz Kevin Na when this year Cameron Smith when this year till Hatton. We know that he wanted Arnie's event, but Cam Champ when this year Joaquin. Niemann, Nick Taylor and our boy, Adam Scott Tyler Duncan and a guy named tiger woods. All these dudes have one Andrew Landry one this year. I don't remember half these guys. I mean I'm I'm trying to like I. Know Muna's won the Sanderson. Did Andrew Landry. Win Hard to say maybe somewhere and he won the American Express I mean in Brendon Todd of course who could forget had kind of the back-back vacation. Land Wins at the Bermuda Championship in at Mayakoba so anyway. Like if you think we usually forget about the fall series. This whole thing is turned our brains to mush, and it's hard to even look back that far all right finally storyline number ten the last one believe you guys with. Our the perils of Jordan spieth because I. Don't think anyone quite has forgotten. How bad and inconsistent Jordan speed was before the coronavirus shutdown? Think about this. The number fifty six ranked player in the world. He's one basically three majors in the last four years worth of majors, his contended and numerous other major championships, but he's absolutely searching for it his results. You just look back at his his page of results, t fifty eight t fifty nine t nine. Miss Cut, T fifty five Sixteen T. forty-three t, sixty six T, eight T, thirty seven t six t seventy eight t twelve like the guy is as up and down. I swear I. It's weird because he does it on Sunday, but then he can't do it on Saturday and he will shoot the the score the day on Friday, but He does that follows like a seventy six on Thursday speed is searching and dealing. It's not even the scores. It's what everyone is saying around the guy like. Can you imagine the confusion that he's dealing with when Brando? Shambley says that he doesn't think. Maybe that can McCormack should be your coach any longer. The guy that's helped raised you into becoming the legend that you are or a legend of the game nine major winner Gary. Player says you know what give me an hour with Jordan spieth and driving range his back to number one overall I would get him. They're all it takes is an hour. That's wild to me. Are All the things that are circling speeds? Think that if you look at the combination of Gary Player and Brandel, I think you an hour, and I think Brando said two minutes. She gets sixty two minutes. Jordan spieth gets with the right guys, Bang! He be right back on top I it's funny I was thinking about the. There was those couple moments where the stock market was really in freefall, and they were like all right. We got put this thing on pause. We gotTA. We gotTA hang out for a second. Because this. It's dropping too fast. They just stopped trading. That might be what this is like for Jordan spieth. The the world ranking was just plummeting plummeting alright, then they paused hardcore and Sean. You're actually making the case that speak has the most to potentially gain in the restart. Is there someone that you would rather win like? We have a absolutely loaded field this is. For All reasoning, it's like a WGC or a very light version of the masters. If Jordan, spieth could win an event against gigantic field if he can even finish in the top five after this long confusing break do it at home at colonial in his home state, I mean I don't think there's anyone I'd rather see this week. Damn so I actually looked it up. Sean and brand-new only needs two seconds. Beef that's quick, so Gary Player needs a whole hour to fix beef. Brando only needs two seconds to get that swing back on track, so I mean I bet he'll be on site right Brando. Maybe they could just walk the range a little bit figure something out yeah. Brandon can can shout across the banister to him. When I when I think of speed, I'm going to leave people within analogy. A popular one I think. I think if Christian Bale. In the Dark Knight. ME. Rise. He's had his back broken by Bain and he goes down into the pit. His all over the place he's dizzy. He frail. He needs to get his back right and he needs his body right. He needs to get his mind right and eventually he's able to leap out of the pit. That's Jordan speed in his home state this week. Yeah, journ species, his perild. He struggled. Everyone is telling him that he can give two seconds or sixty minutes, and he'll be fixed Jordan needs to get it right by himself, and he'll be Christian Bale Batman jumping out of the pit this week at home. That's probably about as good as spot to leave it is. We're GONNA get so. That's GONNA. Do It for this week's episode of the drop zone. Thanks so much for listening. Thanks to Lee. Finer expertly produced this week's episode as always. We're GONNA be back. Next week taking a look. At Phil Mickelson at fifty years old in the meantime, enjoy some PGA tour. Gulf. Thanks for listening.

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"I would look at Boston. We'll Tom and look at this stuff that they pose to some of. It's like such quiet and stuff like that is what we need to get. People turns goal. Nice to be your boys. Congratulations on all that. You're doing as mediocre as it is at the LACI this year. I'm very much thinking so I don't give that people together. Thank you brag dump butter knife. My wed off newer younger him or Barstool. Sports Tigers had three back surgeries. He's had one fusion. We welcome in from Barstool sports rigs and Trent guys welcome to the show four players or sports me live from. We're doing a live podcast right now. We don't do this very often. It's president's Day love onto the president's huge fan of all American presidents in America in general. Yeah like the president's name. How many presents can you name Lurch? Oh man what do you think the over under his fifteen I think that's a good overrun house and said twelve to five. You want to go through this conversation over. I was just talking to one of my buddies. Saying I don't remember anything from school and it was quite evident when it's also. We had a debate on like a radio the other day where I just said like World War. Two was nineteen fifties. That's just wrong. So yeah so we're live from five iron gall. Which is we've talked about a good amount rather than go into the Office. Today in the office close we decided to go play some soon simulator golf at at five iron and we had a nice little match about pitch-black. I lost me and the producers lost. I'm on a crazy losing streak. You Walk Legitimate Gov match that. I've cared about in like six months eight. Losing as I feel when we celebrate the I feel as good as I could possibly feel against you right now. For whatever reason it's crazy we've had a good of them out of those matches to read halved. I've never wanted a long time. So when you're stepping up to t- against rigs are you like minus one eighty five betting line right now. I don't know if it's that high. But when say minus one forty one sixty s probably right now team beats another team. How many times? But then billion gambler might take him because he's like plus one sixty and like all right. I mean that's crazy odds plus when sixty one forty one six. Ask as much as I've lost. It's been like a week long competitions where we've come down to the final day then lost those route questions. How much have you lost? Keep saying as much as I've lost. Sounds like it's been an astronomical number. No no not like capable of winning like I eight eight matchbook. What's how many matches up on a row against no? It's not it's not no. It's not like literally to the last three. You didn't win. We have right but I'm saying that you haven't won. I would say it's five or six something like that DEP. I'd say it sucked boy. Do I hate losing? And if you do that over a period of time that's motto. Let's think about. I just lost today. Nine holes back-nine bethpage black sucked me. And the producers lost to you and Frankie then we go back to Carolina an impromptu trip to Pinehurst Yup lost two of the four matches yes in one zero of yes so that's thirty five matches without a win. Then we go back to Australia. Where we played what five matches there and Trenton. I one one of them. Yeah that's right one match you guys want so we won one like loss and have one yes right one one of the last eleven jack. My brain can't go any further back there at one of the last eleven years in golf. We're like I'm Lois Handicap infuriated. Dave Barry's Amish. Show this a four time. We've had already on the show. We have about fifty minutes almost an hour that we had with thirty came into the studio. We got obviously his series. It's ten season of Ferte which is crazy. I remember that started and Ferte was always. He was hilarious right. He was the the classic like Golf Voice. Funny he's got like the the Irish accent and all those types of things were always kind of building on the brand and then he was on the coverage and then he started his own show and it was like. Oh that's great duties on season ten. He's got Henrik Stenson all these different folks. So he's kind of going around town doing the media tour promoting that we had on the show and this time we always do preparation. We're always ready. But this time we kinda just like let's just let's just hit record goff and this was just a very sincere very fun. You don't know what direction it's going to go in conversation with David Faraday. Who's one of great commentators and all of Golf? We talk about the hind the scenes of the coverage the different Mike how he's like at different stages of career had access to just he could hit a button at any moment and just be on the air. Sometimes that goes great sometimes goes poorly. This comes amidst a bunch of controversy and backlash from the CBS coverage this past weekend ferret. He's obviously part of the NBC coverage. So it's a very very good conversation. We're GONNA talk for a few minutes here about Riviera and whatnot and then we're going go to that conversation the second show this week. We'll get deeper into sort of what's going on in the world of golf and all that but Ferte conversations phenomenal people are going to love that one so fair coming up in a few minutes the genesis out. Rivera biggest star of the whole week is the golf course. Riviera is usually every week we have. It is considered you know people always go out and say Max Homa was saying Adam Scott was saying much sang Sur favorite course in the PGA tour that they'd play all year most courses on the PGA tour of your anyway like an architecture guys suck the reason they suck is because it's just narrow fairways long rough if the guy's mixed missed the green from one hundred fifty yards out. They just grab their sixty in walk up to the green all the way for a hundred yards out because they know they just have to hit like a chop and hope out of the rough. Riviera's different. It's it's cut tight. It played firm and fast the Greens were fast balls or balancing if you missed the Greens or you miss the fairways. Even the rough wasn't that long guys were completely fucked. Everybody backed up on the weekends. Going forward for the most part. Which is you love to see nothing worse than when guys are like ten or eleven hundred are on Friday night and then the finishing scores. Twenty three under its Mooring Sucks. Riviera was the opposite. I think Kuch was what nine under going into the weekend and the winning score was eleven under so whatever anytime you get a tournament that that leading score at the halfway point is somewhere really close to what the finishing score is. That means you get guys that make a little bit of a run on Saturday. You guys up. We saw some horrific activity on Sunday on the fifth hole. Rory made triple and Adam Scott may dull when you're thinking like Oh my God this is kind of the whole tournament is GonNa come down to this final group which was Kuch Adam Scott Roy mcelroy Which is about as sexy of a final group as you can get outside of having like Tiger Woods in the mix and you see these horrific scores on the fifth hole ironically enough. You didn't get to see it because CBS in their coverage gap which we've all hated upon forever. You get like two hours golf channel. They have from like the two thirty to three PM window the coverage goes from golf channel to CBS. But there's no actual live golf and then the Basketball Game College basketball always runs long which whoever's scheduling person at CBS is just not even close. I don't think how every time a hundred times out of one hundred the basketball game just runs off so you tune in for the golf at three and it's just there's a minute and a half left in a college basketball game which takes thirty minutes every time. So then you miss your. You're watching the coverage. I bet on Rory on Sunday morning he was plus one sixty got up to plus seventy one point. I'm like I'm going to bet. Also Rory let's go. He's tied for the lead in the final group. He's the best player in the world. He's got all these articles coming out about how he's got. Zen Approach to Golf no-brainer. He hits the ball fifty yards past Matt Kuchar. That guy's a joke Adam. Scott can't Putt is using this fucking crazy contraption. I'm fine I'm fine. He's looking great. And then I tune out for have our tune back and he made triple on five. What the fuck you talking about. I may draw on so they missed the whole coverage. So we'll get more into that but Adam Scott ended up playing lights out even making clutch putts down the stretch recovered from a double bogey to ultimately win the tournament. I think it's as fourteenth career. Pga Tour Win. I win since two thousand sixteen. He has proven to be somehow pop up at at really. But not somehow maybe the best thing in the world but papa big moments. He wanted a four players championship. You One thousand thirteen masters making big PUTTS. Remember with Steve Williams in the bag I think Adam Scott has got to be one of the more universally loved guys engulf. Did you ever heard of negative about beautiful? Human being tuneful drive. That was little run through by rigs bottomless great. I will say I spent more time this past weekend. Just like watching golf than having a long time. I couldn't have been more opposite. Didn't see wants to be a debbie was in Daytona. I was watching cars your around a track. So slow mo video by you by the way best thing I've ever done believe you cough. That is the guy that's trying to figure out the Slo Mo game how about the fact that they slowdown. You'll never you're not born to figure out the slow game. What do you mean? You can't believe you're able to edit it like you. What are you talking about right now? What do you mean? They slowed down in the image. He doesn't he doesn't take a slow mo video and then you can move the slowness part wherever you want it to be no idea. That's nuts come on. Are you kidding? I thought you just had to start it like a second or two before because I was always buying a car anyway. It doesn't know what the fuck talking about I was in Daytona on the track. We had DEBBIE UBER DRIVER FROM REVIEWS. We drove. We give the background. Bureau seems incredible. Debbie we were in East Haven Connecticut one day Megan Dave and we were doing pizza. Views went to a pizza. Place are overdrive or had to leave so then we had like another overdrive. It was gonNA take us around. Her name was Debbie. We get in the car just like any other Uber. And we're like. Hey Debbie. Can you take multiple sponsors again? Where you guys going. She's a character small little thing like she's older and like I don't explain it. Because at the she smokes ten packs of cigarettes. A day was gone. Those little packets of milk. You get fresh. Yes long by hood which made me laugh laugh in a while. Whatever anyway so we went from place to place. You started ripping on the places that we've benches like I've heard of us. She's like You you have to go to place. Men Are Viennese the best pizza place on earth and ended up sucking so we ended up loving her because her and Dave had a good connection so anyway within knowing her. She said that she likes cars. Obviously she loves driving cars. She was a bus driver for thirty years. She's famous in her town. She's like every kid's favorite bus driver of all time. She drives like big big. Rv's and now she's an uber driver so she loves cars. We drove her down to. We didn't drive down. She doesn't fly so she drove down herself. I mean when you're that committed driving everywhere you drive drove from Connecticut to Florida. Music Daytona with her sister and her sister's boyfriend. They got one room to eleven hundred. Fifteen hundred miles. Something like insane. They took a twenty seven hours. They stopped twice but anyways so we brought her around. We did the whole experience. They they announced at the drivers meeting. Which is the most sacred meeting at the Daytona? Five hundred. They literally do a prayer like Dale Earnhardt? Jr. Like says something to everyone on the announced Dale Earnhardt Jr. they announced the president of NASCAR. They announced Darius Rucker and then all of a sudden they said from barstool. Sports Uber driver. Debbie Uber driver. Debbie and Dave Portnoy and they both stood up in the place. Went crazy and amazing. So yeah so we were on the track and then you know the president was there. It was crazy it was it was reliable. He came through. Twitter was two hundred and fifty thousand people at that event and every single person lost shit because demographic like Daytona five hundred zero. Yeah and he drove around the track he drove around a track he actually flew around the track and an air force. One he did. They came real low and he did like a whole spin around and then landed. It was awesome. Spruce that's the move right. I mean it's an election year so large down one of our guys. I don't know like the science or the numbers behind this. But he was sorry. I explained like if regular. Let's say a regular plane is one x? The Air Force One is seven X. Size and weight so maybe like the same. What size. Seven forty better. I know that he did rather than seventy he said. Like one hundred thousand tonnes or whatever and seven hundred thousand tonnes is this. Is this plane. Air Force One to fly in a way seven times heavier has said yes but but of what just like things like right live any moment they can just like shoot it down and just a flex or something like the computers is way seven times more than I started the saying. I don't know any of the numbers or the facts. I'm just stating what I think they just lays leased. They're like MAC books in dumbbells. Y It's Kinda like that car drives around the beast the beast. It's like ten times heavier than whatever that is true. The window like the windows apparently are like twelve inches. Thick with bulletproof. Apparently that's one is like is Fisher. Yes and I know the number. So that's why I said one ex you could shoot like a heat seeking missile that limo and the things fine and it will also it. It'll faster than you can think like. It's got all these crazy things on it. Fly around Brugare. No I used to a girl from Venezuela went down there for like ten days. Her family was very well connected. I'm not gonNA give them to the level of detail. She had windows in her car. Were five or six inches thick. You'd have to shoot the same spot like ten times. Before bullock driven. The coolest part was if you took like a horseshoe and shoved it was an old jeep. Cherokee kind of thing. But if you took a horseshoe and shoved it right above like into the transmission like like right where the radio is. Steel Bolts would shoot from the front to the back in through the sides. And it'll be complete lockdown. It was the craziest experience away with a with a handgun. Yes how many bullets does it take you to get through that window? I couldn't get through because the round. There's only one April turnaround. No I'm saying you have unlimited AMMO. How many bullets does it take lurch to get you say? Hit the same spot ten times. A bullet through. You can't do that. For How many ten feet away? How many is your shooting? All Two hundred bullets get through one hundred twenty boats lower lower. Maybe not here. We go flying backwards. Some of the recoils tough. Adam Scott has a great swing though he podcast. We're GONNA get to Adam Scott's rink there are a lot of companies out there. You might not have known that. Nearly all of them claim to be the best but now the people have spoken. Here's how they've spoken the twenty twenty product of the year award winners have been revealed. Cbd MD products one into CBD categories. Look I read the copy all day long the CD PM stuff has gotten me through nightmare. Stretches where I'm needed it more than you could ever imagine and the CD freeze. I put on my muscles. We were down at Pinehurst. We were walking. It was like forty degrees. It was snowing at one point. 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Everybody debates it's to the point where Trista Creek and I wrote blogs against each other about how to play ten. Everybody debates that there's a bazillion articles about it's three hundred yards is two hundred eighty yards when they moved the tees up a little bit narrow narrow little like Bacon. Strip green bunkers everywhere. If you go for the odds are that you'll make a little bit better of a score but you also can make like an eight. It's an iconic. Hope Will Herald on the third steps up on that. T- tied for the lead in this in this tournament is genesis invitational. It's reached this amazing status because Tiger Woods now. The host is only three tournaments. That have that the Arnold Palmer Memorial which obviously Jack Nicklaus Arnold Palmer Tiger Woods. This he steps up to the fucking ten t with elite tops. The tee shot. They don't even show they just say they just go. Yeah here's Air Varta from one seventy seven out on a three hundred yard. Wait what the fuck did they just say on thirty off the TEE and the announcer? I who said it goes. Oh you must have laid up like a weird yardage up wait. What and he's he's got like a seven iron in his own. Everyone else's like jumping back towards it and turns it makes double. He's in has a church like a horrific back-nine falls out elite. Will they didn't show the clip until like an hour hour and a half later in like a compilation highlight compilation of like how we got here. And they showed it briefly for a second half like dude this clown show terrible terrible coverage top teeshot leading the tournament e. dot hold like chunk top. Didn't know what are you guys do. It was insane. They didn't show. It's mind boggling that they don't show that video one hundred twenty pretty good. Yeah with the junk dot. That's how firm and faster every three would for the rest of your life goes one twenty nine. Take that straight. Yeah no you. Don't take that come on. You can't come on Johnny Nine Twenty Nine on the number. So hopefully we'll be no more wedges hundred twenty nine out there's a little run up to just stay out of your trump can't they do. There was a time during the summer. Where three my three would didn't miss the fairway it was. I laugh out loud. When did that come to an end? You were on fire and then we played somewhere. You just like Aaron Hill's first Erin Hills and I stopped my first ball into the into the shit then next moment way left into the Shit I was already hitting five off the tape and I'm like I'm never heading this club again and it was over. Haven't had it since that's what stopped going into that. Round in Aaron Hill's positive rushing off the team rushing it and lack just crushing and I got it back a little bit in Australia. I was yeah I agree with that but fuck man I got there. And he'll so cocky like man. I've been playing around with my three would have been roping the ball and then I got to the first team and it was over at three. What is your seger weapon? You play like any golf course and play it. Well there's NO DOUBT FUCK. It goes on the first year boy. Scott Brown finished tied for second in one seven hundred and three thousand dollars to weekend for guy like that that's like scrambling around the PGA. Tour is always in the mix like like once in a while. You'll see like his name but he's I meant to say he's never in the Mexico City. It's not like I am. I didn't I wasn't doing metropolitan. Yeah I was like who the fuck is this. Why is he hitting the same way as Kevin Kisner? Who's one of the best golfers in the world and you guys are like a pro what? There's a caddy like. What the Hell's going on all of a sudden the guys made like millions of dollars playing golf and then you see them in a tournament. This you're like go fucking Browning go. But it's huge for him to make that much money. That's what this guy living that lifestyle. You need rounds like this. You need tournaments like this seven hundred because if you keep going and going going with like you know missing cuts or tied for forty second and stuff like that. You're not gonNA live that. Like lavish pro golf lifestyle but nine one seven hundred thousand dollars in one weekend. We'll fell off too. I didn't even realize that he was tied for second. I think back or something like that. He finished to back nine under birdied. The eighteenth which was awesome as like a twenty five foot from off the French but Yeah Adam Scott who had to make clutch putts down the stretch. It can be doesn't make those also Scott Brown find themselves in a playoff in on a life changing life playoff for a gigantic event. Now he and kids have been in the playoff at the team event. Imagine put we know. It's the the the Louisiana New Orleans tournament. All right right right. I remember yeah that's right. I can't I'm blanking on the name. It's where Trenton had our famous. I really negative running with the PGA tour where they do the player Intros and they introduce it changed at two or three or four years ago as the as the team event where you play to the route one round dessert class classic one round you play. It's it's basically the same format as the Ryder Cup. You Play alternate-shot then you play like two basketball you play alternate-shot to in best ball. They got into a playoff kiss. Hold like a chip to get into playoff through his club in the air. It's crazy. They ended up losing. I believe that playoff to the boys did they win that one year. They always play well. They're actually can't remember. But point is Scott Brown outside of that. Most people probably wouldn't know who he is. He played that round with us with kids and he's a total beauty. Shot like an incredibly similar scored. Two kids without anybody really knows the same swing. Same like mental capacity as in like just the same type of person their balls were just like right next to each other higher time and and so anyway. Scott Brown posting nine hundred par and getting getting that close to a career. Changing victory cool. It's still really cool. That he posts tied for second that he wins. Seven hundred thousand dollars. After missing a couple of cuts. He played over at pebble thing. He played the Sony Open as well. So you missed a couple cuts. Scott Brown is a phenomenal guy. We're GONNA try to get him on a set by Kevin Kisner. Scott Brown lurched from Kisner as we're recording. What did I say goes because I was like putting possible and Kizer goes off of your putting. Yes yes and then he goes wise. Your follow through five times longer than your backstroke. It stuff like that so you just think let me tell you. Why are we doing stuff so wrong? Yes although I'm asking you a question if you supposed to have the answer we're kind of like how the fucking muscles have the answer kids out right back you tell no answer. My is just because that felt bright times longer than your backstroke. Because I've approached because we don't know how to play the game thinks that's honestly the answer. Is We have any idea what we were doing. I wouldn't do asking questions as if like. Oh Yeah No. I knew that I was supposed to have my backstroke longer there. It's just I didn't do it. They're like no. It's not the room fuck because I have no idea how to play golf. Yes so look. We're going to delve more into this stuff The second show of the week. We've also got a very interesting interview on Thursday with the guys who are behind the Bridgestone. Golf Ball the new one. That Tiger Woods is using the talk a lot about the process with tiger. We ask questions about like die on the golf ball back how that affects them. We talk about. Is there just the science to create a golf ball that we could just hit four hundred yards so there's a lot of interesting conversations with them before we jump over to? Ferret. Who's up in a couple of minutes? I do want to talk a little bit about Adam. Scott on the fifteenth hole had some very interesting things to say after his round fifteenth hole. He's you know he's got a stroke lead. I believe the time. He's got the par five seventeenth ahead sixteenth holes a relatively short par three. So He's a great great position. His approach shot at fifteen plugs in a bunker horrific lie. He acts out of their across the Great. And he's in a position where he's got a monograph. Greens are playing firm and fast. You can't really bump it through the cocoons grass because it sponging just stops it. Which if you're watching the cover they said over and over and over again so he went through into Orly Kakuchaya. He went through and talked about the shot that he had on fourteenth on the fifteenth hole and he said he like this crazy chunk. Flop-shot ended up getting up and down to save bogey and ultimately wins the tournament by two. He goes about eighteen months ago. I was fooling around a little bit doing some silly stuff by the green. My coach said look as silly as that shot may feel it actually looks like it's a really good position to hit shots from then he goes and fast forwards and talks about his position on the fifteenth hole. He's in a horrible spot. Chipping for par. Mind you and he goes. I stood there and I wanted to. Maybe bump it into the fringe realistically. If I was going to do that it was going to go. Probably Forty five feet past the hole. I thought well maybe you could win the tournament. If you hit a great flop shot here so I thought might as well just go for and the trigger hit this awesome flop-shot got up down for bogeying and it's awesome win tournaments acid falls on him to do this. That's a professional to hear that spot practicing trying new stuff and then bring into play as always awesome and then having the balls to execute on it and actually executed a cell and it's cool to think that he was standing thinking like very seriously considering being like okay. I'll hit this forty-five feet to double in. I'll get out of here with double and like still have a chance to win the tournament but if I hit this flop I will tournament and like the fact that he's in that position and making that choice is crazy where we'd all be thinking like one hundred percent. I'm GONNA hit some hero shot. Make a quad. And you're like my rounds over. I shoot ninety five. He's like clearly going through all that he goes and dials back like eighteen months ago and memory or draws upon a memory from them. Hits that shot so very cool little anecdote from Adams harder to like Fathom that golfers do it but like in other sports it seems normal even though it's like on the same level it's almost like a basketball player team being down to and he's dribbling around the clock going. It's like no you guys can go to and just forcing overtime. But he like waits for the BUZZER. And we'll shoot three like like a corner like fadeaway shopping. Like I knew I could end it right here. Like I'm confident enough in this shot. I'm practice it before. I know that if I do a step back right here I have a better higher percentage chance to end the game right now as opposed to giving the team a facing a better chance like golf when someone does something like that. You're like how the fuck is impossible. It's a little bit of Happy Gilmore. No I'll just beat him now. Exact hey too happy just to put it around. His golvin feels shots. Like that. Like you're supposed to just do the thing that is normal. You're not supposed to take risks. We take the least amount of risk on for the most elite amount. Pretty much what he was doing in his own head. Which from golf too. Because we're going to give their basketball example like the coach could be saying like no no no. I want the quick to. I'm playing like the long-term game. He's like better chance. And then you Frankie Hotshot Point Guard. I can have this now and you see it switch or hey you've ever see we've all been in that position to think about like okay. I can play this defensively and keep myself in it and he was like wiped. That out was like nope. I'm GONNA play aggressively. I'M GONNA fucking win and like that is Yeah and I love that mentality especially golf. The field is so good. And so if you have that chance in your late in the day on Sunday and he's got the skill set of swings tackle but then to execute on that I just I love every piece of that example to drive home the winner. Take the chance and maybe win. Why definitely and I just have to execute. It's right here right now. Really cool that it was for bogey because we think about these harrowing shots only went for it and like had an eagle bid. What a hero. But here he is in like every stroke matters. The same doesn't matter shipping for private shipping. Frugal every stroke matters the same in here. He is talking about this kind of heroic decision he made to like save. Bogey ultimately won the tournament. That's awesome. How often have we all decided a safe? And then it ends up horrifically worse than it would have been had just done the thing that you originally thought you walk on the right like I'll just say the seven iron to the left you take the seven iron and then you hook it way right and it's somehow finds the water that you would have hit with in your mind. You thought you were going to hand you walk you. Walk off that whole and you're like I in your head you're like I want you to know that like I was playing that whole smart to make a bogey right and I made a nine. Yeah but I want you guys to know. I've done that all time where I'm hitting my leg me like I was playing this whole thing. People have our skill level playing a whole safe to me on almost the dumbest idea. What are we going to just because we are nine ninety one to go for just rip it because you could screw up either side of the equation and like you plan? It doesn't mean that the outcome is going to be safe and good bell. How many times I've played taking on my next audit the I've I've played up safe and then the next one is chunked away totally like my sixth hole. Let me I wanted to home like I'm the Hump. Soap is all I can think about for the rest of the round is I could have been two strokes better legislation professional. That's kills us as everyone's like. Oh always playing Roy Smarter. You hit a three hundred dude. He hit his three hundred to seventy five down the middle. Here I am. I'm like I'M GONNA play it smart. Pull my three hundred. I like chunk like block it now. I hit went one eighty two so now. I'm like to eleven out in the right rough instead of just hit the same driver. I'm like one sixty. Try to close the holes. Total is fast as you can and then figure out the PUCK. Glen Oaks is at the temple or where it's like an elevated tee box and there's water on the left eleventh the eleventh old Glen Oaks. I'll always remember. We were in a pretty good match and I remember being like playing pretty well to the point where I was stepping onto the tea with some confidence and I was so cocky saying so this is a whole where it's a dogleg left and then it comes back right snakes very difficult hole but like you could you can hit the drive over the first set of water and like the odds are if you if you bomb it. You're GonNa hit the other side of the water. It's a real thin landing smiling but it's not that then when you get up there and everyone's in drive and I get up there and being like oh I'm GonNa hit a fucking iron here and I'm Gonna. I'm GONNA be perfect. I remember just topping the right into the water. Every single person in our group crusher. Drive right over right over the water in great shape so easy. No you just got to ignore the water here and like. I was planning to the right. I want you guys to know that I should have been right here. And then when you walk up take driver look much space up here. So courses on infuriating all right Dave Barrett. He's coming up to talk about Tiger really quick. Because what happened you know? I don't know we have to talk about that. I wasn't going to bring it up. I mean you have to bring outrageous four under three hundred eleven over par he finished just lost the first. I mean it was like I mean it was like all signs go when it was like what's called. Midway through his day on fucking Friday. He was three under. The winner was eleven. Oh He's playing bad and he's fine and then he just I was at Daytona on the track. And I'm looking at my phone. I'm like trying to keep track of what has happened to Tiger Woods right now and then all of a sudden look at twitter and he's fishing for a ball inside a garbage like what is happening. My alternate universe like I saw tiger leaning in like right over. He's wearing red or he was in his right. I think Tiger Woods in red leaning into a trash can looking for an image. I don't ever want to see again. Like could agree almost shirt off so that like the pictures of him in red leaning into a trash bag to find his alcohol should never never. Yeah he he's GonNa have weeks or he's got it and weeks very doesn't I hope he's not hurt. I think he's not he's not playing. Mexico trend said he was like laughing after the round. I just sucked. He was he was he was like. Yeah I just didn't have it. I was Steph all this that. We're should've chock it up to like him sang some weeks. There's going to be like this because I'm forty fucking whatever. Now allow on fine. It's a great storyline for we'll take a we'll take this is brought to you the show this interview. Whatever you WanNa say this interviews brought to us by brought to you by very good friends at dude wipes gigantic supporters of Ford. Play the foreplay podcast. The barstool classic whether you're on the range playing around with the guys are on the PGA tour do not be unprepared for a messy situation on the course packs. 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Now we're walking. We got Frankie Ferte. Here is Frankie the luck of the Irish. So the runway out here at At Five Higher Gulf and this guy just had a ten foot and he he he hit the Putt at five iron right. He's right next to US and he ended up thirty seven feet away from the whole ten feet away. He hit the PUTT. His took his national is not one person in his group said a word they all just acted like it was no problem. It's got to be free agents watching them some large. Get it within four six foot. There's like a six foot. GimMe Gimme window. He just had to tap this thing. He hit thirty feet aggressive. Putt PUTT Little Irish. There was pretty good. Then you Kinda lost and are I have to go to the bathroom badly. So we'RE GONNA end up next awesome. Hit on okay. We are now joined by a very special guest. I believe it's his fourth appearance on the show. He's got the tenth season of Ferte on Golf Channel Premiering Monday February twenty fourth at nine pm Eastern. You guys have Henrik Stenson. Scott Van Pelt Gary Woodland Charles Schwab. Suzann Pettersen Mr Ferte. Welcome to the show. Thanks another thing with stool in the name. Yeah perfect fit right so ten years. Congratulations thank you. Yeah time flies. Yeah it really does. I mean I haven't guessed more than I think it's around one hundred forty. Wow so far. This is one of those. We talk a lot about the more golf courses. You play the more you want to play Well not in my case. I got run over by a truck fourteen years ago and SORTA crippled my left arm. So I I like the short flat golf courses with the Ritz Carlton at the end. Is it like that at all with With interviewees the more people that you talk to kind of the longer. Your list grows of of people that you want to interview. Yeah I mean. I've interviewed a bunch of favorites but I people left. You know that I want to get. That's for sure how was so Henrik Stinson? He's of course in the premier. We hear all the time about how he's rumored to be. You know this this hilarious guy. How how are you able to kind of? What can we expect from this interview? Maybe a side of Hendrickson that people haven't seen before. Yeah you know. I mean he's He's one of my favorite people in Golf. He really is and what you see is not what you get He's he's incredibly dry and very very smart Just a just a wonderful interview so Speaking of interviews Roy mcelroy with his interview with Paul kimmage is kind of in making a lot of waves lately. With how candid and open. He is refreshing. Is it To have a guy like Roy who's number one of the world in golf being kind of that open in that candy because we don't get that very off and I'm incredibly proud of Rory We I was actually system pro at the golf course He grew up at nineteen years. Before the little bugger was born. You know so I. I watched him grow up and You know to see him. Turn into not just a golfer that he is but the person That he is you know open An honest and articulate It's it's a great source of pride for me. What was he like? He's a little bugger. he was phenomenally. Talented stood head and shoulders. Above the rest of the kids. Shouldn't in ninety s and breweries in the seventies was he Was He kind of cocky? Even as any he walk with such you know the little the little bonds you always had the little really thing is that's unmistakable. When you see him walking down the field that bounced puberty maybe you know he got through it. He has that distinct. Although I mean I can tell anybody from their walk. Really from five six hundred yards That's one of the things. That sort of stands like a fingerprint. Is that from you know covering all being on course you get so used to kind of seeing just the that. Ati motion exactly. That's very interesting. What other what other sort of Quirks or or tells you pick up on on the course to kind of know exactly who's coming and to be prepared. Well there's obviously there's swings all of which are different And you know there's the walk If you can hear people talk yeah and just mannerisms after after the swing you know people sometimes ask me. You know hugging you. Tell where the ball is going. You know if we show a swing off the tee. The minute the ball is gone. I know where it's going just by the body language afterwards. If a player is leaning to the left even you know his eyelashes are going towards the left will be. That's where he wants the ball to go. You know the ball's going to the right. That's very interesting yeah. I've never really thought about that. But the challenges you know what what are some other kinds of challenges maybe early on with coverage that that you maybe didn't anticipate or that you kind of had to learn on the job of like. Oh Man I didn't realize what I watch golf that it would be this difficult to know who's coming or whatever when I was done in the Fairway. I'm I'm in In the booth. Nah I it was one of the things that you have to learn how to do this. Because I don't like the whispering and I'd like to be able to talk in a relatively normal tone of voice you know so you've gotta get far enough away from the player to where you can talk normal tone of voice but still understand or know what he's doing so you know h of the the forward observers if you want to call us the course. Reporters has a spotter very close to the player who can see what club you know. He's hitting here. What kind of conversation between Between the player and the Cadi. And it's not just knowing the player and academies extremely important You know I make sure that I buy a few drinks afterwards and always try to get the caddy's name and whoever it is kind of try to personalize them a little bit. You know because you know an important to the player. They're important to me that that's where I get most of my information from signs with clubs and stuff like that or shrug your shoulders. I don't know what the hell he's doing that kind of thing So that was that was one of the things and you know when you are up close. Sometimes you have to be close. You've got to find that balance between the tone of voice. I Remember Reading for Sergio Not Forum but actually a turned. I thought why because he heard me. You know and you know when when when you've just read left edge and he was thinking of was right edge you know. That's awkward right. Yeah you should have nor probably. It's almost as awkward as our pipes. Be You know the more things change the more they say the same we come to this brand new beautiful office we have. That's that's probably GonNa happen throughout the whole interview special sauce. Yeah Yeah to say you ever had like an incident where you were You thought you're far enough away but you just weren't and you're absolutely you know when you call shot and or you give your opinion on what's going to happen and it happens. It's happened over the years more often with tiger. Woods identifies with with anybody else you know on. I always put my hand in the air when I'm wrong That that's one of the things. That kind of irritates me about sports commentary in general. You know when somebody screws something up and you know acts like it didn't happen you know because I I read putts and correctly a lot when I was a player at happens. You know so it's going to happen when I'm an answer as well. Hey let's just just the nature of the sport yes so you're yeah you're right edge. And then he clearly. Somebody goes goes. Uh Ignore it or you read that like a Russian newspaper Scenario you're more up in the booth. How does your your preparation change coverage preparation for the booth is very similar to ban on the grind? It's basically lying on the SOFA watching light payday favorite show. Yeah that's Mine. Yeah. I love that. He's still crushing that. Show every night sitting there watching live. Pd Oh yeah. I've SEEN EVERY EPISODE. Probably three or four times. Cops on steroids. It is. It's way better version of it. Well it is because it shows the cops you know what they do yes. They have a hard time for what they do incorrectly. You know this is shows their patients you know. And and they're You know just the professionalism right. Yeah and and you know I mean I've been pulled over a bunch of times. I've never had a problem with a cup being nasty to me or innocent like that right. It's always there's always guys like the six time we pulled you over today. It's like what are you. What are you doing man. We need to build over here because we were apart for a while. We're in a tesla and I couldn't get out. I couldn't find my way. I couldn't find the door handle the lady. That's a driving us. It was her first time in the Tesla's well she didn't know how to get to so we're we're nearly in it all day spaceships. Yeah I mean there's just impossible he's pressing buttons hoping it opens up. No yeah the windows going up and done maybe flaps. Yeah that'd be like Just like a guy walking down the street and look at NC Farah just screaming get me out of the car. Held hostage guys walks up and just opens the doors. Well actually. It's it's pretty difficult to get into. The whole thing is like an intelligence tasks you know which failed miserably any technical issues like that ever had coverage ever like they put a new set on your something like. Oh yeah I mean generally speaking? That's the setup is very similar. You know when you're on the grind the the Masters for instance which which is a couple of months time did nineteen of them as a broadcaster and we have air key. You know every other tournament. You've got a key where you can just head it and interrupt you know under the broadcast. There's none at the masters you know. So if you see something going on and whatever you can't break into it until people and various different setups for cough button butlers. We call it the cough button. Where if you've got a hack something up in the middle of a telecast and your interrupt back to the the the trailer producers so yeah you can hit the wrong button and talk to yourself for thirty seconds kind of thing. Yeah so at the master's what do I need to say? So you just like screaming and waving your arms in the air like something I for a long time I had the second hole and the fifteenth hole. You know so I had about three and a half hours listening to Bobby. Clampett of which I've been able to break in and say innocent. It was kind of frustrating from from that standpoint. I can imagine so then I go the other way with it. Have you ever hit the button and not meant to and just been on the air? Oh God over the years. I've said things that you can't say it may make a mistake like that at the masters years ago one of the big mistakes you can make as broadcaster. Pierre up in a tower I mean you have a monitor. Their eight by twelve monitor at the masters with a scoring monitor on top of it. And that's pretty much all you've got. I was at the Fifteenth Nineteen years and the view is spectacular. You turn around in your chair and you're almost on the sixteenth green And you can see all the way down to Amen Corner across the other side of the golf course. So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on and you know but you have to look at that monitor because that's what the the viewers and if you look at life you know whatever you may see something from a different camera angle or whatever tiger came to the tea and he hit a tee shot where I mean. I just knew that he'd nut it and this was back when you know he was longer than everybody else. And they're crosswalks at fifteen and he hit a dine into the second crosswalk which was forty yards past where anybody else had and I happened to look out from behind my monitor and there was one lady that saw she was walking through the crosswalk chat a long skirt on kind of womb avoided. It no like run into like a mouse running across and I said well. The lady had to lift their skirts for that one. What is he saying that I look back at the Monitor? And we're still tight on tigers face you know so everybody away was watching. The telecast thought that every woman within the senator just exposed herself tiger woods like literally they I saw. Yeah Yeah I did but just the viewer. Didn't Oh man. That's why talk about that process. I mean if you're sitting on the buyer near the green pretty much the whole time someone then radioing down to you who who's in the fairway who just hit. Yes you see on the Monitor. How do you get that information? Well there's the spotter there that relays the information to the trucks. And then that's related to me through my headset. I've got the producer one air. You know the director and the other and you know the telecast over the two of them that's it's got to be a lot of pressure and trust on everyone because one person has scouter gets who hit it wrong or if they're in the rougher tree or not and it kind of goes through the entire broadcast well let me the whole thing can come apart. If if you go back to the source of the sputter takes gas out at you know I I always say. 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Do you know them so well at this point that you don't you know there's not a ton that your done pretty much normal in the back of your hand. Yeah I know the golf courses haven't seen them for years although I mean when I moved made the jump to NBC I've got the exact opposite schedule. You know they go to the tournaments that CBS. Didn't you know so? I mean I it's taken four or five years To to learn some of those. How was the junk? I'm a believer that the embassy coverage is significantly better than. Cbs is not just saying that. Because you guys are here you know from your vantage point. Was there big difference moving over and or was it pretty similar behind the scenes? I it's a lot of it similar behind the scenes and in front of the scenes. It's you know different personnel. And you know got great friends back at CBS. That I mess mcchord in particular and on cost us The two of them and Jim Nansen everybody but I've got fantastic. Guys that I work with Dan Hickson policing error. You know been friends for years and Roger Maltbie and Gary Coke. You know the rest of the guys you know done on the ground It's a fantastic group to work with You know like I say I had a job and forty three years. You know so It's It's been it's been fantastic with with both networks. We always talk about Nerves as a golfer. We ever get nerves as a as a broadcast. Oh yeah absolutely you know. Throw into commercial things like that. You know we say something stupid or whatever you know you try not to say the same thing. Oh Hey you know you're watching the WGC You know Del match-play tournament. We don't know what this is but we'll be back with more interesting two. That's the word that makes it the most nervous the thrown into commercial. How am I going to get? I think that makes sense. I gotTa what am I going to say here to get out of them twenty times broadcast. It's typically come up with twenty different things to say that's for sure Who's the WHO's the person you've been most nervous or anxious or however you want to describe it to interview on the Ferte show Well are out on the golf course. you know on thirty show me and I've interviewed four presidents. You know so it's a well. No I venture booths three presidents one of them twice the trumpster and I interviewed President Obama on the White House lawn for the Olympics And that's always a nerve wrangler but Anytime you get among the grades Jack Nicklaus Bill Russell Sam Jackson People like that Matthew mcconaughey. Hey Don cheadle I'm always In awe of people that can act because It's similar similar to golf in a way because you can't be afraid of making a fool of yourself when you're an actor. I mean you just got to hang it all out there and I really admire people that can do that. So when you're when you're interviewing somebody right like we're we're doing obviously with you right now. It's always I know we wearing a year. Those are the three words. Those are the three words that you never want to hear him broadcasting. Are we on? You're trying to run through and go the direction you WanNa go and stick to an island or whatever it is when you look across at its president is you know. Does that crosses that kind of weight of that. Change things dramatically because we'd never talked to President before well. Yeah it does it's You know the commander in chief the head Honcho. You know the whole lot you don't want to and again you know if you're gonNA properly you do want to hang it all out there but you don't want to hang it up so much that somebody hit with a baseball bat all right and I would imagine the things like interviewing. The president is obviously nerve wracking but the surrounding area that I bet there's a lot of things you have to go through to be like just because it's the president so he's got to be people everywhere. Secret Service everywhere is bring up the nerves a lot. Yeah there several layers of Of things that you've got to go through alongside you know the the normal broadcast aspect of it getting into the White House. You know things like that. Get an trump tower getting out of trump card sort of tesla as well just like coming into here similar. Yeah Yeah it is. You know it's very intimidating you guys What's the what's the most awkward moment you've had interviewing somebody? Wow the most awkward moment I've had Well I mean they're awkward moments in every interview but we Edit them usually Larry David There were a couple of answers where I mean Larry isn't acting that's just Larry. He's got that paranoid kind of You know wonderful Sense if I really enjoyed the interview but there were moments where I thought this Crack Mirror You know there's there's something wrong with this man. Yeah it's You know he's He. He'll go like laughed when you expect it to go right And things like that. I mean he he He actually offered me a hundred grand or fifty grand not to air the show. The minute we said was wrapped. He said we'll give you fifty grand not air. There's I sucked no. He didn't what? Yeah that's just how it works. I must be. He's just like so critical just like that was terrible. That was terrible as incredibly critical of himself with no need to be so. I remember the There's a documentary about the South Park guys. And they were talking about how they would. They would come up with a show in one week. Base start from scratch and have it on the air within a week and they would say they would be so including in all the editing and this that but so topical and by the time they sent it to the network. They're like we hated it every single show. We said we despised. We thought it was the worst lease funniest thing in the world. And so it's interesting. That was actually the that is. I think part of the funny part about South Park as you know. It's so bad in places that it's actually good character like even the drawings so juvenile funny SPEC. Math are amazing. Yeah we just talked yesterday about how Larry David has cornered the market on whenever you're in a situation like waiting on line for coffee and someone cuts in front of you and then like someone gets mad at you. You're like this. Is Larry David Curb episode? Every time you're in a situation you can now say like Oh this is a curve just like someone got cut in the line for a bathroom and then someone yelled at him. He's like what am I gonNa curb episode amazing that he's cornered that market of just awkward and interactions. Just Larry David moment. Yeah so I can imagine. It's it is tough to interview a guy who is famous for creating awkward and like. Oh what you do moments because I can just call you off or something. Yeah and and I think monty python were kind of betters. John Cleese if you ever saw the series fawlty towers. I haven't no well. You are missing something I think. Twelve or thirteen episodes. And the funniest thing that you see in your life John Cleese and Fawlty Towers. Yeah all right well. There was a sign Foti tars. Who's a hotel in Torquay in southern England and the sign was an made it up? They mixed up the letters you know. Every week I would say fawlty towers one week and then it was flurry twats next is actually using all the ladder. I really clever show. It's gotTa feel alert. David like mental chess the whole time. Yeah yeah it does like exhausting at the end of the show. You know. 'cause we'll do some shows you know you're on the air for six hours It And you got to be on your toes You got to watch that Monitor all the time and you know. Be careful what you say. And it may not have four sometimes five holes and that's how. Gulp works Whenever it comes to that whole you know you're you open your own Mike at least we. Nbc We opened our own microphones. And we have you know terrific system there where you can cut in and it's I've got four or five screens on a big monitor where I can watch all of my holes as one of the differences There I I can watch all the holes that I have You know when I'm not On the air you know so that I know what's going on when I do come to a whole and what has happened players. Got Their right. Anybody ever abused that. I'm on everything you've got Gary just won't stop going on. I mean there are people that you think are paid by the word. I got times it can happen without naming any names Let's talk a little professional golf do you. Do you remember a time? When Golf's been this exciting where you have kind of coming together of even the different generations with how well Tiger's playing at the end of last year is GonNa be the reigning masters champions looked good last five or six times. He's teed up even fill. Now's got a couple of top. I think fives or threes in his last couple of starts and then going against the young generation with obviously more cower bringing up you know those guys bringing up the the youngest guys but even the the guys that around thirty with Rory and Brooks Dj. How good of a place is professional golf? It's in a fantastic place especially with the return of Tiger Woods. Great comebacks in the history of sports really a testament to his his character and strength of will and it's ability to overcome you know the physical aspect of it As well it's just been astonishing. I've been with him since he was a kid on the golf course you know. I watched this. This happened over the years ago. Dhanbad you've got that group of players that you mentioned that that grew up with tiger woods having set the bar and they thought well you know I can get there and you know they I mean I. I never thought that I would see another player in my lifetime. Hit the kind of shots that tiger woods had in his prime and You know I'll be honest. I still haven't you know to to to that level but boy I mean they're awful flows and I don't think anybody has made the game. Look Prettier the then. Rory mcilroy but but these these guys nine. Th Tiger Woods is up opposition. A Tiger Woods is fault you know. He brought this on himself right. It is It's interesting from the from the interview. I referenced earlier where he talked a lot about playing with tiger in the final group playing against them in the awesome Matchplay where he lost and how he thought that he was prepared for those things but ultimately who's very very upset with himself afterwards to the point where he started keeping a journal. Because he's kind of like I legitimately grew up and my sole purpose was to get in these positions where I could play against tiger woods and didn't play up to my standards. How different is tiger approach now versus even a couple of years ago where he's kind of he was buddy buddy and he was almost a mentor. We call a iota like figure to now. It's like careful what you wish for boys on the other end because tigers back. Yeah he is. He's a different person And I think the team aspect has been tremendously Influential on Tiger Woods where he feels like he's a part you know he. He was on his own a loner for so long. And you know I- unapproachable and away from any of these players you know. They're not afraid to approach him. He is absolutely generous with advice in the same way. That Jack Nicklaus is to this day you know. The young players can approach him and ask for advice like that. It's it's been amazing to see him change Over the years to a player that feels like he's a part of every team. Excuse me every time Presidents Cup Ryder Cup. He'll be a Ryder Cup. Captain event. Obviously he will if he's not you know it'll be interesting to see if it'll be a plain cotton right but Ryder Cup. Because that's entirely possible. I think the last one was might have been Hogan Way Way. Back going back in the fifties. Yeah you think you think he. He kind of wants that challenge. Do you think it helps. It makes it more likely that nobody's done it since Hogan well I mean he wants every challenge. Yeah so many records and golf with the cuts made being the most unassailable One hundred and forty something cuts in a row. I mean that's staggering staggering closest. Might be in the thirty s or forty something like that. Jack sits up at night thinking about tiger. No think he cares. Are we cares? Yeah but I don't think it keeps them up at night Jack knows that records are made to be broken the whole and I think he probably still feels you know pretty in a in a pretty good position You know as good as Tigar is you know. Get into nineteen Now the only I gotta be honest. The only Mistakes I've ever made but Tiger has been when I've underestimated him because he is I mean. He's got his eye on that record. That's for sure but I mean I don't think Jaguars about it at all. No it's interesting. We've talked about a lot like you know he's got all these years tiger slipped and it seemed like it was never gonna come and now he makes us huge comeback. It's almost like the boogeyman came back. Where it was Jack was sailing into the sunset and then all of a sudden. It's like oh boy. I Better Start. Watching these tournaments again. We win anytime. We sit on the show. We Jack might start seeing it up right. Yeah that would be a comeback. But you know and you talk about how how great friendly. Jack's Ben and he has a bout is perfect of a role model golf superstar and the goat. The grace of all time that you can be. But he also has to in order to have one eighteen majors and seventy plus tournaments and be considered the greatest player. Play the game. He has to have obviously an insane. Competitiveness asshole in you right so part of that is always going to be inside of a part of him has to be thinking like okay. Yeah I've been the clubhouse at eighteen but I was. This guy was off the golf course. He came back on the back. Nine his fucking making birdies. Yeah what the hell part of the past. He has to be thinking like he's not going to get there. There've been very few players throughout history. You know that happened. Hide that hard edge to them. Rory mcilroy is one absolutely no asshole and boy nick. Price was another Off the top of my head. I can't think of anybody else. The shortlist shortlist. That doesn't mean to do that. Every other player was an asshole. Sorry we're about exact Johnson Johnson absolutely. There's no no asshole him but I'm not sure that Jack up a number one in the world no he didn't Chicago made the Berry Nickel. He's very nice. Walking around the John Deere Classic. We're talking about an upper echelon type of person transfer Iowa. Yes they like to make fun of the John. Deere sits tournament dear to my heart. I've been trying to recruit golfers mine too. Yeah I did I think Nineteen John. Deere's on one of my very favorite places in all the world is Davenport Moline Rock Island Yes so Sylvia's the quad cities. Yeah the quad cities. I love the place of the people of the community aspect of that tournament and always one of my favorites one of the one that I missed. What translated one hundred bucks or something? What's going on that was great? That's we're clip that for sure so the tiger craze we're witnessing now media's never been as omnipresent as it is now with social media with phones with people being able to put up their own organic coverage everywhere with the crowds being covered from different ways. Do you feel like the tiger. Craze is similar to what it was when he was at his peak when you were covering him is it last. Is it more? How's it compared to peak tagger? Well I I. I think it's different in that. You know there's a sense of disbelief At this moment in tigers history. If you like where that didn't exist. When he was at his peak you know people just believed you know that he could win six or seven in a row and they were right So there's the there's a sense of disbelief a sense of anticipation. Not that wasn't there you know around the two thousands right. Yeah we talk a lot about the fact that It feels like we're now watching live. We assume forever we would only be able to watch on replay would only be able to watch on on the internet or on Youtube or of Golf. Channel does a highlight show. Shout to golf channel. But you know that and then all of a sudden we're kind of blessed with like this unexpected opportunity to watch someone create the history that we thought we would only get to watch in the past. What anyone that Is Interested in golf. Loves TO WATCH GOLF I it's an incredible privilege to Watched in Tiger Woods era just like it was an incredible privilege. Watch Jack in his prime. Watch Hogan Watch bubby Jones. Watch old Tom Morris. Old Tom Morris was planned with. A badgers testicles stuff with -sego feathers feathers. All Games come on a little bit. What do you make of Brooks captured? Water pro trump trouble. I go bottles are low aggressive. It's a tough tough nozzle raise short skirt bottles. I need a Sippy Cup. I ripped right off and oh yeah. That's that's that's more. Forget what you're talking to somebody who couldn't get out of college good point. What do you make of Brooks kept? Good his whole approach. You know we talked about kind of the the graceful champion versus people with a little more asshole at them. How do you view his approach and a lot of comments? He's made you know it's different. We have you know between Brooks cap and Bryson to Shambo Golf's Kardashians it's There's a kind of a trashing to it Just fine. It's like the Phoenix Open. You don't want it all the time you know that kind of atmosphere. But it's a refreshing change. You know just to see that and you know Brooks is is not afraid to be brooks and I like him very much Salmon Bryson to you know. He's watching a movie that only he can see. Yeah and it's different It really is Because you know for a for a long time For periods of time and golf has been you know it can be kind of boring For sure definitely especially to Kinda casual sports fan. Yeah exactly and Tiger Woods he He brought A different Different demographic to the sport you know your your ordinary person that You know just Just wants to see great sport. You know sport played at a high level yet. That wouldn't have been interested in golf otherwise so Patrick Reed has had his incidents over the last several months down at the hero with the bunker incident a lot of folks calling him a cheater he said the cease and desist letter to Brandel Sham. Blee who we talked about that With Brando last week you how do you feel about kind of Patrick reads situation? Is He ever GonNa Kinda get past? This deserve to where do you? Where do you sit on this? Well Patrick is is really really different in people. Call Them Captain America Call Him. Captain of Libya's you know it just. Doesn't it rolls off back like a duck with water. Y- his reaction to the incident in the Bahamas for me was pretty amazing. You know I- If something if you do something like that you know the only way to soften the blow if you like is to is to say that you didn't realize that that was the rule which in this case would have been marginally unbelievable As well it's just one of those things. I was on the airplane with them From there to To Australia the charter flight and It was as if nothing had happened. I mean really as if nothing had happened and the players you know that he was with just a at least for that. You know flight there and back seem to feel the same way like nothing had happened like nothing had happened. Yeah do you think where the team aspect you sort of have to? Yes I think that played a big part of it. That's for sure. So you've had Patrick on the show. I mean what is he? What is he like in person even even off camera because we've heard nothing really but good things for the most part? Yeah he's he's personable life interesting character. That's for sure He He has a very interesting history. You know family life. You know things like that. I think mother-in-law's financial advisor Little Red Flag. There that we knew a lot and we get into his family situation a lot. You know that. Yeah Yeah I mean there's a chance I could be wrong but also say that a lot certainly You know very influential in that aspect he I you. You never get rid of that you know. Vj Singh was another. You know that that never got rid of that You know that sort of stigma that comes with it. That's just one of the things that you don't do in professional golf and if you do it's going to stay. Is there a part of Patrie you that that you think understands that in order to be Patrick region. The best offer that he can be that he sort of has to have that Reverses the world approach or captain oblivious? Or whatever you WANNA call them. Yeah Yeah I. I think he's dealt with you know the similar accusations if you like you know throughout his career you know in college and that kind of thing and it's just as sort of shadow you know back there that is GonNa follow him. You know that light is always gonNA shine on them. There's always going to be that shadow. That's that's left over but I think that you know his attitude is a self defense against that important is understanding your own attitude even towards the other players in professional golf. I mean you were clearly a very accomplished rider copper plated incredibly high level. We've seen guys like Nick. Faldo who people talk all the time when he played professionally. You couldn't get a word out of them and now all of a sudden. He's faces of golf broadcasting. We've talked about tigers transformation from sort of a darth vader. Like who won't give you anything to all of a sudden. He's you know a team guide. He's boys everybody important to the success of Professional Golfer is sort of understanding your relationship with the same people that you're trying to basically beat and take money from every single week. I depends on the individual player. You know you get Someone that doesn't need friends. When they played and Nick Faldo was was one of them. You know he had Dinner with his manager Every night and he He play practiced harder than anybody else. he He just wanted to be number one in the world and he and he devoted all of his attention to that for as long as he played competitively. And you know you have to admire him for that. You know sacrificing you know those things. I learn more but Sirnak in the first ten minutes of him being a broadcaster than I did in twenty years a plan with him right. How was Who who is your favorite player growing up. You know we're gigantic tiger woods fans we watch every shoddy hits. Who is your favorite player growing up? Well I grew up in an era where it was it was Jack Nicklaus And my playing career You know I'd have to say you know Nick Price Ernie Els Ballesteros where where the guys that I really admired played alongside and there their contests others that I admired as well but you know off the top of my head. Those are three that stick especially nick price. I think maybe the the most under under appreciated player an L. Possibly Golf History People forget that he was number one in the world you know. He was so personable such a nice person that he didn't have not hard edge that everybody else had. It was funny when other people were assholes and he's not really involved in the game. Now you know and I think the game. This is nick price so you mentioned. Ernie els he Actually really quick. We have a nick price story. Which here are so. We have a little person His name is Bob. Way Right so we brought him to Shinnecock because we were doing this challenge where our boss like the the leader of Barstool. The Guy who started this was doing a Mulligan CIA unlimited mulligan challenge at Shinnecock or the USO They allow them to hit as many shots as you need it and whatever his score is going to be using to try and beat the winner from the year previous role crazy challenge. Anyway we brought saw to the golf course and he had never like he never thought he was going to be a part of any golf contact. He's like why am I going to the Shinnecock hills? You didn't even know where the hell he was going right. And we bring them there and then all of a sudden cute he walks up to the driving range and nick price is standing there which is like he knows he legend to him because he was our God. This imbibe win our athlete. That like made it over here. He came over and he's a legend and they shared a great moment. He got down because I got down. Hugged him took a picture? It was very very funny and cool moment. Like what are the odds that we bring his Bob? Way And nick price is standing right there on on drives had tears in the crazy couldn't believe it. But he was the nicest he was the nicest guy ever ask somewhere from the whole thing yachts. Yeah absolutely. It's very interesting to see the different icons different. Because there's a lot of people here. It'd be who the HELL's nate price i. I was just saying Oh yeah I like I didn't recognize them immediately. And dodgers went running over known. It was crazy so Ernie els he had for the President's Cup. You know about as tough of of a hill decline as you can have with you. Go THROUGH THEIR ENTIRE ROSTER. The national challenges of different countries different languages. Yes playing against the American team that did have home soil. How good of job did Ernie Els do? As captain of the International I mean Ernie is one of the most popular players ever to play the game Again you know. It's one of should've mentioned that doesn't have any asshole you know just a a wonderful person and a great character misunderstood thinking a lot of ways off. The Golf course loves a FEW BEERS. A few dozen Beers Perhaps and that doesn't make them about person. As far as I'm concerned it is. It's extremely difficult to be a captain of that international side. Because those reasons that you mentioned you know the difference in languages alone no one who to partner with WHO is a great deal. More difficult than it than it is You know from the American side so it's tournament this year. Are you most excited to cover? You still get kind of that excitement of going. You know well. The Open Championship is Is a huge one for me. I always get You know so kind of Boehner about that Yeah the Olympics this year. We have so with tiger in the chase. You know to get one of those four spots on the American side if he can get there that just elevates the android that Astronomically so those will be the two events that You know we've got the World Golf Championship events You know the players Which is huge non deserves major championship. Status you know so. We've got a lot of those in the playoff events at the end of the era NBC There's a lot I look forward to but the open championship and the Olympic stand. You think it's better that the players championship March now Yes I do. I think it's more you know. It's linear thing in Florida. You know where you get that stretch and you're liable to get the different wind Where you get seventeen into the wind is much more likely in March and you know the finish there. You know like the Green Mile At the players. It's one of the most nerve wracking finishes in in in Golf I think that the move to March you know with that That strong wind calmer what direction is from. But I think it's from the north the mixed the last. You know so so difficult as well if you get. I any gamblers out there. Me and three buddies last year went into the bet. It's a very fun to do. And it was total balls in the water on seventeen throughout the whole show and just every time you update the shot tracer or they just have a camera on Seventeen. Somebody hits in the water. Some guys even double dunk getting a little too with the wedge. You just go crazy. It's incredibly fun to watch. Yeah it is. I mean it's a it's a really fun whole and it's not that difficult to hold it really. Isn't you. See A lot of toes on it but you know you can almost hear the sound of the players clenching when when at the top of the backswing you know you don't want the clench on the downswing. That's that's not going to work. Well David Feherty. We appreciate you coming in yet again. You've got the premiere of fairy Monday February. Twenty four th Henrik Stinson nine. Pm ON GOLF channel. You Guys Have Scott Van Pelt Gary Woodland Charles Schwab Charles. Schwab rely keeps Swab Schwab. Suzann Pettersen. it's a great show. It's Emmy nominated ten years that you've been doing it which has to feel crazy now at this point seven straight weeks of NBC ball cradle coverage assign years a self titled. Show for ten years. It's like people have to love coming on your show all right here. I mean it's not like it's some like big ended. It's just well I mean I. 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Golf Postcast: 148th Open Championship at Royal Portrush

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Golf Postcast: 148th Open Championship at Royal Portrush

"The Big One is the open and is the Gopher Post cast on Bruce Minton and delighted to be joined by two tipping Titan Steve Palmer and in the studio the one and only the legendary Mr Jeremy Chapman and we've also so go Glen Day from Scars Star Sports. He's the very much informed Glendale because last week he's liking for burn visa which showing itself on recent post came up trumps as he won the Scottish open at forty two one also found in the foot by the Maestro Mr Jeremy Chapman who also tips at twenty one winner in relief goosen in the senior so the boys are in full and they've been studying hardware coming up all the best bets not Charleston who's going to win the open. Market's winning score is going to be taught they taught that absolutely everything so grab a pen and paper and hopefully we have got all the winners for you but first of all before the tip start flying Glenn Take it away with an eye deep show betting thing from star sports on the open fifty all the vices this subject so Roy mcelroy folks out Old Saints One Jim Rome Sixteen to one dusting Jolson twenty to one justin rose rose and tiger woods twenty two lower zen show fillet twenty one Francesco Molinari and rich Denison justice. Thomas and Patrick can buy twenty. I`Ts Adam spell on so measly would not the rookie found out that he's Rees Jones Space Jason by Matt H._R.. Voters wanted outlets others will play Glenn and just a taste of what the market has been doing in the lead up to the action starting on Thursday at Portrush who's been most popular. The good spent a business no one massive liability but more efforts on Justin Summers Rousey pipe well in Scotland lost weight a good makes the rain up into Macaroni Rob tekere absolutely friendly mix of business excellent right and we won't you'll main tips now now chats just the one if you only have one Jeremy Chapman on this who would it be an why John Rome just one to two to Irish open already on similarly cautious and no one goes into this one is this worry about ten promote onto what he did the other way lean chance at that because he just still seems a little bit like a volcano white into erupt for me helps them <hes> <hes> okay so so you think shown everything points to him does does the coal sue I mean. Is there any difference between this links in any other rulings. It's generally my good friend who won the Irish open the other a day and they said well it's all I think that's a isn't it if he doesn't blow it so easy if if it blows it's tough business looking and the ones in because wonderful of the mountains and save it. It's handsome coalition. It's beautiful but I don't think about it. Okay so you think Rahm is I'd ill-equipped for the Test Steve One only on show. We're going to be having more than if he were streets. It's one who would they pay. Wamba only will be rory mcilroy. I think there's one party in put Russia on Sunday when the local hero wins <hes>. It's been a lot of talk about whether he'd be able to handle the pressure but I think he's he's a more mature character. Never now I think since tune in thirty <hes> again married every measured calm thoughtful character I've seen the season he seems to handle setbacks better and he's <hes> he's reading the same books me at the bone I she's reading the put me onto this book his the obstacle is the way the obstacle is the way to get into the philosophy of stoicism and I think he has more stomach this season and he very consistent you may ease eleven top tens in fourteen starts <hes> <hes> two victories. What was he won? The Players Championship which is the strongest field of the season won the Canadian open with a frankly ludicrous standard of golf. He won by seven shots there so everything macro he's done. This season is encouraged me towards his ultimate ultimate goal and I'll think he can handle the pressure of the hometown hero. I mean you've got to remember we talk about the call. Spin classic linked same as everyone but not that many players played their competitively and I think it's a significant different nationalities. He's grown up playing the famously shot that sixty one is a sixteen year old there in the north of Orlando Amateur Championship so I think that's an edge and I think the first few holes are quite easy in comparison to the rest of the cool so so it's going to be key for macaroni cost on get the crowd pump in they can bounce off each other and you know those early hose provided that opportunity. What's that book about? What's the K. learning you've had from the what's the obstacle is the rock? The obstacle is the way our on yeah yeah you turn adversity adversity into advantage aren't nearly stages of at the moment but some year rather than capitulate when you make a bogey or <hes> you know something goes wrong at work you yeah you dig in Antony she the positive tune into an advantage fantastic writing plan. What is your number one pick on his way? He's Henrik's Bentsen refund any full race. Wait subset previous when I applies will in late pulses I nine full sing for lost time at the Weizmann a good drive away vs free would <hes> Talk Stats in driving accuracy in these last four route seems awfully taping it on the show. Stop is going to be Kane. It's way cheaper narrates. The grains hasn't been patent so well race may also basically I saw way end and it'll by his own plot well. It's thought that an awful smack matt safe right to Harley in the stats ball trust be all as he's dimes. Ghodusi prove can handle the pressure and then again at a loss random through a few years ago <hes> I think if he certainly had a massive weight possibly big night second Kate Steve Only come back to you and ask you which attributes you think is going to be most important as the winner of the twenty one thousand nine hundred open the when we look back on. Would've done what best approach shot strokes gain on approach and scrambling to the two key stats because the approaches very very tiny targets on approach because it very heavily undulating Greens they feed off towards the bunker so you've got the Roy section of these green or you're in trouble so actor approaches and everyone is going to be missing Greens because they also difficult to find so then you want to be scrambling well when you miss him so yeah the key stats I'm looking at okay. Stay Jeremy Give us your due to mine dangers to Jon Rahm who is twelve on his open debut US Shenzhen lovely debut and his come on this one memorials on the most impressive aforementioned this year and if very good on the majors nine to the MAZDAS and in all areas pity I two very good majors out of three so he's a big occasion plan and he's not over faced himself and the nice run and you'll be up for this. I know who else she likes to give rom the most to worry about just in rows of Kathy's because it straight and tell me straight hit it is with a good strategy who who's she couldn't win by rose when it was not your honesty and it blew then did it fair enough. Okay that's good then all right so rose and can lead to give rom the most thing about Steve Complete your podium. We'll do the the outside is but if we're doing a one-two-three number one rory and who's going to be turned three number two is Joan Rahm. I think preparation is key to winning the open championship eight of the last nine winners played the week before <hes> Joan Ron played at the hinge the week before last which was good preparation Paul McGinley latter that Hinch Golf Club setup as close as you possibly could to <hes> to this way he wants to provide the players with a good good lead up to to the open and the Ron blue the field away their sixty four and sixty two over the weekend the win that prior to that he finished second outer armor <hes> despite feeling under the weather and plan a course which plays against the strength so <hes> the love the way ROMs coming into this tournament wouldn't wouldn't worry about as open record. I think he's got links golf now. He's for tremendously young people forgetting how good roms become with so little experience and he twenty four is not play that many tournaments and one bundles of already and major victory is inevitable. I think I think chaplaincies Roy Nazi Second Irish Open when his way you must remember I it is I already show when we came in two thousand seventeen pull shoe it which is just up the road from portrush in Northern Irish Benue so in this part of the world is being deadly and <hes> yeah there's nothing particularly frightening about whether cost is weak the wind speeds and not going to be extreme so there's plenty of birdies available to keep Roms pecker up so yeah I think I think the biggest danger to to mcelroy and then complete in the portfolio big approach. She's got Lou used housing. I think is the best of the mid mid range prices former open champion won the two thousand ten edition by <hes> seven shots in Andrew Runaway victory that the home of golf and <hes> yeah that's not the flash in the PAN is majors record. Generally annually superb is twice lost in playoffs to bubble Watson in the two thousand Twelve Mosques Zach Johnson the twenty fifteen open championship. He was second in the two Thousand Fifteen U._S. Open second in the two thousand Seventeen U._S._p._G._A.. So major venues typically bring out the best in news thousand probably because they're so difficult normally he's still such as solitaire degree game swings very consistent swing churns out fairways Greens number one is R- <hes> macro to run number three who stays in and <hes> Glenn Glen. You're going for occur. Remember gun for number. One is it stinks and then who's two and three well. She'll how many going to read real actions website's the second choice immigrant phone probably system as have applied the guys driving activate and scramble well. He writes by the fantastic how he dies. We'll see co pay five a week and ACRO. Abating quiet counts made last summit. Yes I'm an old cy writes impacts degrading regulations. I own the Kate. Hey all so he's dying. We're working well. Brilliant is it because the commission free thanks flower lates Albany's shot. He's getting in to grips with it will mature more impactful shish. I Mo consistent say and again kind of the shots will be aids this. I think he'll think my anyone else. You need to mention Jeremy Very Fun than the chauffeur pronounced that right he's only played into every second nausea in time and you know it's. It's just tremendous underrated. It doesn't look bomb proof doesn't he right temperament on big occasions when the torch engine is no is very much contender yeah excellent Steve. You've got one more near a massive massive price. That's why followers remain Lang ask it to two hundred fifty two one. He loves links golf. He won the twenty Fifth Championship at Carnoustie. Obviously an open venue brilliant last week at the renaissance cub a really really good open warm-up finished third in the Scottish open hits his really well so he can handle tough tracks or good pick you like I found him very much for the top. Some of the top Frenchman top French favorite Lorenzo varies favorite the four were very value Rhyming Gordon stave off that ringing endorsement. Tell us more. I just WanNa say play the cutler majors when he was an Ama- Tony finished thirty ninth from the Masters and sixty fifth in the open so this is I started is a professional in overseas is much more confident much more. Well rounded plan these days so yeah. I'm expecting big things. Remain on you. Ask Okay and Glenn's to from left field. He promised us who are they. It's a young man funding. Stay on the page. I had a good end Sir two thousand eight saying I've see three top seven finishes and my parents in Australia. Just riding on a five shops proved that he could get the job done. I'm Wayne on the web comes in and out season twelve thousand applies to go performance by well on the sun guy at Google targets the ladies <hes> I in the travelers recent Jason May indicate while nine states in the Orange County. I look at Link Scout Reserve very promising performance. GET DRAWS ABLES strike good hot not gonNA describe his stat side big net fill <hes> improving season by season nine hundred and fifty dollar Mexican winner J. Lo Trevino's who knows Hoffman was he won the Australian up which sounds wonderful about five the winners already fulfilled okay a new Seattle one thing Glenn 'cause purely on these driving actually ingrain regulations. That's he's healthy batteries. The last five complaints Oedemas they ranked in the top seventy driving stays in May two goes on to win a finally <unk> US when he <unk> y seven shot laid in the bombs insurance. I could easily of four of the right of that the next week from behind off. It's afraid rounds. The Guy Needs Swing tonight in the coastal Friday in this way anymore crisis he he is two hundred fifty two one bob. Okay yeah is that site <hes> property and I said to the top ten mafia good value side is guys well proxies becton. PERHAPS OF MARVELOUS US okay Steve Wildman draw any sort of advantage because we touched upon the weather and it is crucial in terms of if you having bets on the winning score the players on the Paul. I'm in the full. The latest focused I've seen is going to be pretty damn poor week pretty really windy on Thursday and Sunday not quite so bad on Friday and Saturday so what's your reading of how the conditions could play part in the outcome this tournament get huge jewel. Boss Thursday is going to be the windiest at the days <hes> but it's going to be pretty consistent dice just slightly more wind in the afternoon so yeah the only star should have the best view on Thursday but it will flip around on on the following day <hes> not heavy breeze on Friday Saturday and then a bit more on Sunday so yeah. I don't think it's going to be huge. Severe test of breezes we think the winning score will be as highest ten or twelve under par. Yes quite lush. Venue CHAPA stole my handsome is is a very lush links and I see <music> similar schools. How Pebble Beach Played Pebble Beach was a very lush links Davis to thirteen on the powers and it so yeah I think ten if you get ten under par you got a winning chance I think maybe twelve what we needed to lift the Jug Insurance Summer Evan Jaren eighteen gene on the when they won the Irish openness? I seven years ago visit much toughest difficult cost to new holes in so you would quite me a full non from nineteen fifty one earlier. Tell us about that. One giant Baloney Plastic Paula is very western window. It don't be that when this one was two eight five three on the power and the power seventy two now. It's only seven to wasn't him. I remember that when you say what the initial demand what was the first new into it was the one that Tony Lost Seventy Trevino ship into exit right then so let's look now add some of the tops markets because this is a chance maybe for the guys to put up tips the they weren't quite confident enough to tip them on out right but they think this value elsewhere so Jeremy. What are you? What have you got for us? Well very much life Brendan to be. I'm Steve Steve's led the page on it and the wonderful pull out who's written most of research if new U._S._O.. Came over here and qualified and it's not strong advocate is the next best just one of the Japanese practical Kanaya European champion Schmidt. He's particularly good and this fellow's news was overshadowed by the Hoffman. Where's your plan sober so Britain and finished twelfth but he played the blind? The Terry finished level with his day in two eight five five and Brandon Woo as as the more or Patsy Kushtia can talk Frenchman mentioned Runanga very good project to fall they may Lorenza Verron the favorite one of this. I saw and he's playing really well this year. He's been reimbors- so bloody miserable time not as positive as August I into Mr j Korean Lambda four that was pretty good bet and also talk Wti nine two along with what came name and from Chilean eh those are the two nine kids and they're only M._S._a.. As well because so many of the established players never seen portrait before the first time is not so disadvantage advantage as they would normally okay exit vote on Jason Gems in there Steve. What have you got for us in the tops markets in the chops brandon who is the only top alive so chapter stolen under their own brand of water? He's the best amateur in the world finish thirty fifth in the U._S.. Own but then he jetted over to qualify for this and you go in by rights he went to a final qualifier and Sin Sin Andrus famines in Andrews and it will not by three shots I mean that's an incredible effort to just bowl over from California and yeah yeah you never know played any links goal for the e sixty four sixty seven to win that so yeah I think I think who is the standout amateur in the world. I think they've got some talk. Cuts come to missing might the cart so we'll do them in a SEC after Glenn's given us his top tops oops all Asian market L. C. Maxium Chung that mark good way jazz geno Nelson Young by really well in they have P._G.. Near full basement is that by committee go on track. An iphone was on the on the on the Lesser Belie in Japan inviting strives thought he's had no. Aw finishes this year and so wins so he's pay good goals all year round is in good form a moment after this question marks headed them all hit six things. I WanNa thank you very good price. An each wine. Trust spend on well. They stay by not is one stop South Africa van Royan again these lovely racing they always as well. Is that a very consistent year resnick Glenn always out there isn't any age the way back to that. I'm a laid off three dollars a massive mystic out which was disappointing a good loss way up so you had a mass thoughts around full. We'll go back as ice confess. The lobster guy against the blue used is an on off any is in contention yeah. He got his own. He's only hall of awfully officials of late flaky for me. Just go through the motions Rodman Greis Tonia misfold lost five gaps infidelity when the last week John Day they geisel Weiss struggled backup faster way dot com all-seeing contended justin hollering phone H. Y.. Royan bemis Donna Sola there and Asana one subterranean bannon implying imply a as it may and often especially guys against him in apply online admittedly never piloted young say size nudzejm say we came is too movies are beat rivals about guys again so the answer foam three to one that is lovely stuff to miss the Kutcher for former champion in two thousand fifteen it one play often he's back on the outrun is hopeless which many hopeless he's wanted nine ten thousand nine to office being atrocious. Che's really money there no top tens and only one top twenty okay well that that brings us onto to make into miss the Cotton J. Your Bank of their exact MRIs interesting it does it has made the most of the but don in fifty eight hundred fifty nine. I think it really right for N._F._l.. Okay Steve. What have you got for to make an missed off? Wake up with three British players to to make the cut because I think there's a lot chaff in this field and three players Algae Gangsta mate the pool wearing shorts brought to them. I don't know why Paul wearing which odds against the easing really good Nicholas Season He loves link skull Birkenhead loud ease links natural <hes> finished seventh in the Irish open the other day on a lynx tracker due to qualify for this and he was tenth in that twenty twelve Irish open it so portrush show issue hit the ground running the other big bras con con assignment seven hundred and fifty to one in the outright market and Matthew Baldwin Twelve Sir fifty to one was in the I mean obviously there quite ambitious best but if you have laughing Jay why he pledged to cuevas adults often times when we finish let me finish. I was GONNA say they all ambitious wage agent you go top twenty. I mean with these majors. They mount markets and you're gonNA talk for he taught forty exactly you can have spreads pets if you're if you're so inclined so <hes> Kona saw him in Matthew Bowl much better than and they're also suggest <hes> both one very low great events this year so I'm on the challenge toward the end. I won't potato one in Turkey. The challenge tour <hes> E- Salad in nicely groupies links national twenty four year old Scott Aplenty second open so nerve shouldn't be an issue and then Matthew Baldwin if he's twenty third in the open birds the smirk on your face Bruce. I'll just think where would they have to finish for you to entitled to an apology from Jeremy there to make the Commun- Baldwin's eleven to four two may the sime seventy four to make the cut so the book is presumed. They're gonNA miss the Cup of are these to play well on the Gulf and Medi Cal. You're going to get old Kevin Keegan on. I would love it if they want it right. Okay any Michael missed. Cut Fence is Glenn Hayes what we're going to do next. We're GONNA both through some of the players we haven't mentioned and I want an eye snappy line from each view on their prospects. K. Jeremy Will Start With you on Brooks PCA Johns. I mean nothing against him until there's one floor of the last nine majors played and doesn't win the Moon's light Asian doesn't bother with the other events reason fullness irrelevant Kudu member to roll portrush as three majors and his memory. It was a fall around themselves a heady. Is it fine for himself so I haven't been advantage to Dream Team to stave dustin dusty wise becoming the majors bridesmaid now and Rickie Fowler <hes> gets called the nearly manages but some Johnson's finishing second in Italy's majors. He's still only one one two thousand Sixteen U._S._O.. <hes> and he's not doing great nick so don't fancy in this week Glenn July Tiger nine also injury scheduled out so it's not being applied since the U._S.. As well as I think it's a tough all this week on facts into missed the cut Jeremy Gillette the defending champ mm Francesco Molinari why air has plans while it was this time last year came into the up and formed and I write sort of game for the course but I'm GonNa tell you into it now. Stave Adam Kim fine young man yeah yeah he's got a lot going from actually got fantastic open record but just can't trust them on those short range party. I E you can imagine if he is in contention over the weekend. You misled you short putts. USTRALIAN and <hes> Glenn tell us about the chance of Tommy Fleetwood so just not very good whole bit recently and often major parents <unk> RADII sixty in years. I struggled in those under the radar this year no pressure on compared with last year when it was up and around laid all the time the same might be said Jay Justin Thomas what you think Justice Thomas Lives John's has been injured image somewhere and it's been billy up and also came rattler end to just out in the first five or seven but it's very good effort and I wouldn't wouldn't be surprised Steve. Do you gave Ricky Fowler any chance. No I think the major frustration is bubbling over now. I just think he plays well. Don't ruin McAfee plays. Well planning to win a major isn't he. Yes oppose he is. I suppose he is but some yeah there's others much before this week and I have my coacher of Mon- Money Glenn also mill game like just with the white light last week it was in contention in the purser and double bogeys backpacking around so be rabbit as well in unlinked Osaze Abacha when he comes second space here. It won't for Joel Jr finding they belong here. We buy yeah I'll say wait just doesn't win getting ten places you might as well back in each right because you never know to hear Johnson in the first five yeah right then one more h <hes> you can go first Jeremy with Jason Day. No I don't tell anyone there was in two thousand sixteen when he was the best player in the world quite some way don't know I want something to him. I mean we're going to do next because that Steve Steve Tell us about Jordan spate of bats into missed the cut well a win win. You might win 'cause he's teething student. He's he's putting again but <hes> you know going to get to the green in regulation play. I must say by the way I think we just besmirched Jon Rahm than we same Faraz. The Best Player never won a major. I think rahm takes that first because it went montgomery to Westwood Fowler now you think that man's leads with Rome Yeah Yeah I think that will end on Sunday and then we can send it back. The foul could oaks and finally Glenn what you think Oh you've mentioned that so the price into Shambo this funny feeling in the wind the might just come back to former call. I think they would have been twenty two one for this so easy a bell forty old ways evening as well <hes> well by well last concern. Having a good way is up to lock are now. He doesn't hold a in a strange way for most of the results of multiple to win links. Go may be a little bit early ray yet. He said he got the game so compay certainly waiting WANNA put y'all okay Stephen Jeremy do things in very unusual old ways as well but by very effectively they do. We'll give you a blast for this. It's available in own news. Agencies is free in the racing post today. We'll see go by the Racing Post Page twenty four pages pat with absolutely everything you need including Steve's play-by-play guide I mean this is a work of art and I think John Lewis saying thank goodness invented after you stop doing it because it some piece of work is awesome orange contribution very well read the- Molin train coming up and it's a masterpiece really lovely stuff okay now. Let's talk about first round leader Glenn. Hopefully you've got show to hand while you are getting that Steve. Perhaps you could tell us whether we should be focusing on the morning or the afternoon stars and then maybe pinpoint a couple of bats yet we should focus on the morning stars because getting less breeze and obviously the freshest of the Greens and there's two like really massive processor route really early Zander Lombard two hundred to one. It's very interesting really inconsistent. South African player chart go more confidence in no carry-on Lombard. I mean I'm not use Lombard Fan but he does not this clerk of amazing starts and then pitch. He's a minor curry's is the people in the know for sixty four in the Arshad. Louise opened the sixty four finish second off the round warm and then and then says you often does but I think he can hit the ground running in this particular because he finished runner up in the two thousand fourteen hundred championship pool Russia was competitive positive course experience and in his previous two opens. He's been out and gates like a like a ground so the ground do is foster out the gates. The champ WHO's flying my hat to nothing is selection is your other one stevie and the other remaining ask Roy found thank you found is a game on on Sunday that he stood in the Scottish open if he carries that form to put Russia which Abo Abo about the the gates of the starting stools or whatever you want to call them very quickly spin on basil brush this isn't it with him. Interrupting dropped the time plumbing ack Famille Glenn Fuego a show of betting on first round leader. I it deals six as well in small groups rory mcilroy when he thought Jim Rome twenty one dusting Johnson Tiger Woods needs to one justin rise traits Francesco Molinari intend to show and I thought to one Patrick and my forty two Jason Digesting Saunas Rickie Fowler and any particular strong views on morning afternoon for Thursday clem unsurprisingly amazed they took another gone Yup. I made on the site. Go it. Just it's just the Hawk and the arid club tonight. We're winning the I've been of years back. They will die in Buffalo. He's not going to win a tournament so he's more than capable of shooting stars round. Does it say regulate US say bright line in a very next minute. I'm Bob. He does lay westwood good links foam or the law Jeremy Jeremy at the State House said it's pretty brown I the last time I saw is that wide. Remember the jungle boat with the big snake. Is there like that Jeremy's is a lot sources. She can't believe it. Can you say you're going to be back in west. I wouldn't be surprised here's your let it last week and let me down so they might do listen. Listen listen never mind who you're theorising and this one to knows that Charlie Hoffman the king of the first row need is in the very first group. We just back Charlie Hoffman. What price is the half plan? Oh It was twenty. One is being all day this week and it's Charlie Hoffman first round leader in any other business Jeremy's anything else you WanNa talk about the we haven't mentioned. I'm interested President Thompson him myself. I thought top center interesting as namely fear. What isn't it rubbish Jiminez Darren Flop Poll Lauren? Tom Lehman everyone's dipping laming because he made the the regular tournament. Come name is ton ceased is all the laws from two to retire in ten years to cloth and loyal been difficult and I I wouldn't be really lovely fairytale Taryn cloth done so how much rain this tournament to to island as I of it thirty five now playing with Hoffman and two good finishes on the champions tour played that well the rest of the time but say nail position is not that great so you're gonNA pop down Klein Brim as a great great man and I hope he has a brilliant week because he's done so much as you say for Gopher Northern and as an absolute superstar Steve Wells. Have you got for us that we haven't mentioned the forecast now. I was GONNA throw in for better the week coming up so I keep powder dry for that one and then anything else who I mentioned that you want to get off your chest nine mentions summarizing when be sectors I showed up take the tapes and Stanley has talked ten. Oh Yeah of course yeah that's the great thing is as we say I do with the top ten. There's no point just back in the top thing because so many firms are doing or templates you minds back meet try and then because you kick take yourself to kingdom come wouldn't you if someone top ten and then they GonNa win but top twenty and she sales whether it's thirties and forties so there's loads of different ways to back the players you fancy before we get the best bets the way. I want to know what the worst tip you've heard from the other two tonight Jeremy. What's the worst tip you've heard of the Steve or Glenn noticed that you were laughing at most of the money I wouldn't be surprised in the first round Dave the worst? We've heard from one of the other two secretively Hawkeye I I a Colo Stanley's majors records. I'm louise terrible honey. There's absolutely no doubt about that right and never mind the negative. You've already got one bell on the open this week. WHO's it going to be Jeremy? Chapman brander move into retirement okay Steve Palmer Laurie mcelroy Jon Rahm Ju four com here what prices that hundreds of one one hundred to one one hundred older yeah either a jewel Focus Yep Glenn Twenty okay lovely and finally we must reiterate the outright selections. We always do this jake because if people have been listening missed something but we're GonNa Nice and sensibly reiterate your main fences are so to win the twenty nine th one thousand nine hundred years is open championship Steve Palmer. Your Selections Are Rory mcilroy Jon Rahm Louis used his remain Lang. Ask Glenn die and websites and Apron and Carlos Stanley Jeremy Chapman given your outlook columnists weightless could take quite a while on John Rum Patrick Justin Rose Gender Show on Brilliant Weld on nights. I was absolutely superb. Thank you so much Jay. It's been a real pleasure to have you in the studio you an absolute legend I ever fantastic. Wait what you're going to be doing sitting at home and lapping it all up and Bush David will always know. When was the last time you went C.? J. Didn't get done sandwich next CICCONE. You do a wondering if I'm still alive. You'll be there stave. Your is Jeremy touched upon. It's the first time in how many years you haven't been in yeah yeah. Two Thousand Three was Moi. I open at Sandwich so I'm looking forward to getting back to SAM which can't be a bit sandwich notching closed for us so ed I mean we know we're not support rushed him germ last year we look to Airbnb and we were looking at combinations. It's hopeless isn't it none of very expensive mission that so yeah we can afford sandwich next year then chapters and will you be blogging awake Steve or giving joining US regular updates some wrenching post dot com. I'll be doing all I possibly can bruce. You know me fantastic excited. We'll price win money this week things. They've very confident this week very comfortable. I'm confident most weeks and we haven't had a great year but I fancy rory and Rahm really caught strongly yeah excellent Glenn it must be really busy for you is head Honcho of Star Sports Golf Department you in every day or did you get any respite now tomorrow. By old dial the state with the about how pass rate on the on the Gulf coast native here working Friday Saturday on on the side of some back to the conclusions takeaway should be good. I don't even know what the tournaments all next anyone no. We go next week yeah because the W._G._C. now running back for that Steve swanning off somewhere. Now I'm here I'm here. I'm here awake you back next week Glenn.

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"Now on the T., it's Mattie. McAfee? Here's Berry and Michael Collins when I say your weekly teebox dysfunction function. is going. On, its biggest week in its history. I don't think that I'm exaggerating one bit alongside the caddy like I ended. Matting Academy, the first breaking news, we are in the same room. Yes. Properly. Socially distance, of course. Yes. We are in the same room. Yes, we're at. I was GONNA say I'm in the Berry compound hanging out made my way up here. We gotta get into everything that went into just me getting here. This is about to be one of the media's episodes and Matting Academy history we have so much to get to know it is officially member guest week. You'RE ON MATTING ACADEMY WE'RE GONNA hear from the head golf. Professional. Rory. Maxwell at Brook Country Club, which is my club here in Connecticut. which is hosting are huge three day invitational member guest. He's GonNa come on. We spoke with him on Sirius Xm PJ, radio outbound, your radio show because. They couldn't be on the show. So we turn out of bounds instead of Pat Perez, we turned it in outbound slash Mattie and the cat. So we went for one Asu guy to another right rory's GonNa talk about some of the safety protocol it's been going on in the member gas. So if you're listening out there in your patron, remember guest got cancelled or it's on the fence. Have Your head pro listen today Roy's GonNa Hook you up with some good advice, how to keep it going. We're going to talk garbage this week. So, we've got that it's member guest. We'd caddying I are at team. We might get some sneak infowars inside Volvo flight. We're going to be in a hope is like e flight now may flights harder. There's an F. flight. That's can be us. Yeah. COO GET G H I'm going to win. We're GonNa win our flight. Yeah. So we're we're we're competing this week are the players this rule. So we've got that we have breaking news from America's caddy that we've got to get to We have WGC, we have no tiger. We've got Cha Cha, changes in the testing protocol. So we've got a ton of stuff to get to plus we have our picks and the results from a week ago. So sir, since you were on the road and you made the road trip tee boxes, yours, where would you like to begin? So might as well start with the road trip. And everything that it took to get this to happen. Okay. which was crazy when you first invited me no. I'm in, of course, go. This is pre cove it because as we talked about this a while ago. Yes. When you said this is when it's going down this date open with a four day, we're going to hold the whole week. It's member guests. We I'm I'm in mind you there. PGA Championship isn't next week. None of this. This was this pre cove it. Yeah. So it's everything gaps the we're GonNa do this and then pandemic hits. And it's like. Hey, man, we still is this going to happen how is this GonNa? Yemen still going on? Are you going to be able to make it I if it's going down? And caddy's happening I'm coming. Don't worry until. Your state of Connecticut. It's ironic. Our states flip-flopped. The only down. Connecticut was Florida. My state was just like listen. All of Y'ALL UP in north? Not Work. Hey. Have you try and get here? We're GONNA. Stop you like if you're on ninety five, we stop and you turn around New York, New Jersey, Connecticut stay away. You're not coming down here. I radically enough now people at villages WanNa drive around golf carts making racial slurs Bass on and Connecticut. What. Maybe. We don't need y'all live here. We're good. We're. We're doing what we're supposed to. Tell. Me Was. You know my yard. So you Floridians, you stay put so so from my perspective then. Now that the the state's change. then. I got a cat acid. Hey, look. You know if this isn't going to happen I need to know some got. So I got a depth chart. The bullpen when you need to act on it, there's local people we need to go. So then I talked to head golf pro Roy Maxwell I say, Hey, look, here's the deal. If. Caddy you don't want him air because of the state rules and whatnot. Cool. Just let me know we're not going to be offended. We get it. He said look. deb Get tested. We've got people coming from other states haven't get tested have is proof results, send it to the board. He's clear. So that's where that winds again, easy breezy. So then I go to you and I'm like dude, here's though tested. Make sure you get. Come back neck. Bichon get tested right. And as long as you're negative. Good. Perfect. Set the date. Here's some fun stuff. The first one I said up, I'M GONNA go get tested. All right. Cool. This is one of them drive to ones. Now, just drive through wrote a window down, they come over with the has mat-su. Okay. Cool. Five minutes before I'm walking out the House I, get a phone call from the police lady goes, Hey, Mr Collins just conned verify coming over to the YEP. Perfect. Cool. She was like, all right, cool. This is self administered tests and I was Oh. So it's the spit. One is like I spit. You. See said you know you nasal swab and I was like? out. You think I'm gonNA stick the Nasal I'm going to touch my own brain them in a nostril and she goes no you in two nostrils and I was like, yeah, here's what I'm doing. And Hung up and might he didn't go to that? God. That was the first one. So then I was like and it was our way I drive an hour to stick my finger up my nose, do that in the shower for free. Driving our. Right. Yeah. Whatever you do what you gotta do. So then I'm like, let me find a place in Gainesville. So a find a place in Gainesville. Perfect. Got An appointment walk in easy breezy due to test. Cool. Then when I'm like cool, I'm heading up here. One of the bosses goes a you know Connecticut job that fourteen day quarantine. So. If you come up here, then there's no way you can go to San. Fran, which at the time I wasn't going anywhere, right. But I like I don't WanNa just officially pull myself out. Yeah. I'm like, what would it be I? Got Quarantine for fourteen days if I come up there. So by rule, it's fourteen days or or the duration of your stay, which is ever less which doesn't make any sense. I'M GONNA. Go to Connecticut, just to sit in a room by myself. Do that at home while go to Connecticut. Here was the caveat though which most of the people here didn't even know. If you get the covert test within seventy, two hours of your travel, you do not have to self quarantine as long as it's negative. Correct. If you get a negative test and you have taken the test within seventy, two hours of traveling. No quarantine needed. Perfect. Perfect except the first test that took. Ninety. Two hours out. That was that was the first one I took was too far away. So now it's like all right crunch time so. Over to the spot at run in. Actually explain to them the situation and like look. Here's my situation. Here's what happened like ten. What do you want me to do? And Low behold Mr Colin. Come on. Sit. down. So you re return to the same spot turn to the scene of the swab. And they did it again. And thank goodness did a priority on it again and this morning as we record this Tuesday. At, eight forty five, am my results came back before jumping on my nine, twenty flight for. How here's another thing though get to Charlotte. And before they let me on the plane in Charlotte or anyone on the plane coming to Connecticut. Did you fill out your paperwork? Pay I'm sorry. Would you the? Paperwork? What and they literally have oil at the calendar. This thing that you put your camera phone camera on and then they'd send you to the website. And if you go to the website, you gotta fill out the paperwork, not only fill out the paperwork. But like in my case because I'm saying I'm not self quarantine. Yeah. You have to submit your paperwork, your results correct which you should have on your phone. Correct. which good to go? On. The CDC. Shows up my front door. Right. There he is. Yeah. You know this. So. I made. Everything submitted was who and we're here. I'm here Mattie caddy are reunited in person for the first time. I. Know I don't. When is the last time that we were sitting next to each other? It's always a fun game. Because, then there's going to be dead air. 'cause it was before it had to be before the players which was March. So when were you up here last? we play golf this winter in West Palm. Yes. where Where was it? It wasn't. Where was that? No did we know IT WASN'T ORLANDO? No, we're missing something. Yeah. We played. Where is it that we actually played? PG National. That was the year before replay PJ Daschle a million times. Yeah. No, it was somewhere somewhere. Yeah. WASN'T PJ national. So it's been a while it's been, it's been admitted. It's been on its. We did really six months since we did in-person podcasting, we television all time that doesn't count. Yeah. That don't. Let's not sit next to each other that it's via monitor. So excited for today's show caddy tested negative twice Bam here for member gassed week and can I just say Because now, I got approved and I am going to San Francisco to cover the PGA. That's right, which is exciting and I'm leaving from here, which is good. The bad is. You already know high like to travel. Yup. So I've seen it, I. got some shoes and some hats and some glasses and. Let's just say my bags are when I put my golf bag up on the scale, I bet I lifted the damn. Car I. Bet it was eighty two pound. Not Quite that much seventy, five, seventy, six. So Yeah The Golf Bag. That's just the golf bag. That was not the two weeks. Worth of close. Well, here's the problem. It's warm up here. It's hot. We broke record in. Connecticut. Yesterday that had stood since nineteen, hundred five. It was hotter here than in Florida. That's my wife Said who is down in Florida this week for work and she's south of me. So that's bananas that it's. It's warm low bit. Yes. A you. Now, and when I was just in San Francisco I was in. Seoul. Ran Numbers Cold Bra I was not prepared for that season sixties when it's fifty two degrees in blow in twenty dollars an hour. Yo. It's cold. That's going to be a factor champ e- championship makes we by the way especially from guys going from Memphis where even Satan doesn't go to that tournament because it's too hot, it's bad. Both each half of the Matting Academy podcast will be a part of ESPN'S PGA championship coverage. Will be on there. You'll be there covering the event I will be calling me featured groups. With Curtis strange. ooh, find out which group will be calling next week. It's a feature group and to feature grew we seemed tiger woods whenever. So I'M GONNA assume that he's going to be in one of those. Imagine them be like Yeah Tigers not in the feature, we're GONNA go, ahead, and. Put. Eric Van, Royan, and so so we're, we're we. We will both have duties PJ championship school back out the briny. Baird, on four, you'd be like what's Over Baird I. So let blitz split dive into to member guest week because we've all, we've all been part of them. We'll get into our picks. Brace down this my second member guests playing in ever ashore when I played in was only a one day I have a huge problem with something with you in the member guest. And I'm not the only one. This has been a problem with me. Yeah. This has been getting around the golf club. I know what it is, is my because I don't have I don't have our having official hidden have again or A. Pounce it. I, say, I say. I don't like Gin I say. Gee. was some juice. Hey. So you don't have a handicap. Nah. I never been a member of a club. Long enough to have one. I've never been a member. You only need eight scores. You only ten, ten or eight, eight or ten scores. Number one, you can't do nine holes by yourself. You can't do anything by yourself. Now, play nine holes all the time by myself. So do I, but you're not allowed to put those scores in. Yeah, you are. Rules. When was this in? So Janssen again. Yeah. So realize how stupid it was the first correct because it wasn't like that before and I hated that as well, and like if I go play nine holes I, want to the score for this one, I. Love The play I play by myself in the evening when the courses mine was empty at the time, but I never submitted any, I'd say I play nine holes by myself maybe twenty, five percent of the time the other time a plane with A. Club. But what happened is the nine holes on hang out there. like, play nine holes on Tuesday, it hang out there until you play nine holes again, then it will sync it up into a one eighteen hole score. Okay. So. So catty doesn't have a handicap and so when scorecard soon you do. On you know, why would I travel with scorecard I? Don't know. I'm trying to figure this all out. So I gotta like how about if I got PGA Tour Pros Vouch for me, that doesn't count PGA tour pro who has played golf with me on more than one occasion. So, what you're saying is you they're not going to believe appeal tour pro, but they're going to believe a computer which anyone can access and hack into like I could have some Russian Chinese, Guy. In the maybe even know if that's a combo could like why not I know look even though Shea wants the valves form, right? Tell a man tell us up. He knows what we're demand house. You deal with my yellow lab. O'SHEA? So we're lucky for you. We interviewed Roy Maxwell, our head Golf Professional. Earlier on Sirius X. MPG to a radio, and here's our interview with him about member guest. We had to make some of these survive put. Also, we let off with this, who, what do you make caddy not having a handicap. First of all WANNA. Thank you guys for having me on the show. Appreciate it and. Enjoy here in the back and forth and love the Miata comment. But I'M NOT GONNA lie caddy There's a little bit of work that goes into to getting that the any cat for you so. We'll. We'll make some. We'll take some of those scores. We'll get you an actual index and what do you call? Do you call it? Do you call it a hen or a gin or a gin? What? What's the? I won't even say what's the right way to say it because you're going to say, and then someone's going to send us stuff on social media like he didn't say it right. But how do you say it? I, like to say, Jin. Gender. Gin. Gin and juice. And just like the drink and enjoy the exact. So Roy, we're bringing the we're bringing caddy. Tomorrow we've got. We've got a tee time tomorrow. So I would like if we could set him up in the system starting tomorrow. Oh, yeah, we can. We can definitely make that happen, and if I have I mean if I have a few scores, it just takes you know the score Mars course rating multiplied by one thirteen divide by the slow Bam in your ended. Like. He's shaking his head at me like you just spoke. Yeah when you just said, we've got I, got the factory and Theorem. And then I, got into accessing fuzzy math again. See. So say but see, rory be honest though if I have two to three PGA tour pros, call you and say, Hey, man, this is what he shoots. legit. Like you're going to believe that more than if I if I'm just some chop showing up at your spot NBA. Amen Mcginn index is. Martin because you know somebody who's sandbag is going to be like, my Grahahan index is eighteen a bit more weight. Yes. He say I'm not buying. There you go. Roy, you guys. Did you guys see the the menu for the weekend? We saw the menu. Yeah. CADDY is already spotted where we're going to do most of our damage off the course and I know look we've talked about it. We've had a lot of people reach out via our podcast just V via social media about how they're member guests have been canceled this year due to Cova. So. I'm curious you know for those that are out to the belong to places that clubs that are listening to that, maybe on the on the verge of cancelling or thinking about it. What steps are you taking at Tumble Brooke this week and weekend to ensure that everybody's healthy and safe? What we could also have a lot of fun. Yeah. Obviously. It's. It's a, it's a major concern for for all the golf courses. We WanNa make sure that we. Provide a safe environment for not only our members, but all the guests that are going to be coming in. So we've staggered are t times, and it's actually we you shock on. So instead of doing, you know one hundred person shotgun all at the same time, we split it up. So two flights will start on one and then twenty minutes later, the second wave, we'll start on the next nine and then twenty minutes after that. That will stagger that one in that third wave will start it. Kinda helps twofold. So one that breaks up the golf course a little bit and gives those higher handicaps a little bit of a start so that when they're out there, they don't finish and everybody's waiting on them to come in It also helps with the food and beverage because with the code restrictions, obviously, we have to play everything so. So. Instead of you kinda serving yourself, we do have a phenomenal food and beverage team managed by the bar. Casas. he's in their control things making sure the operation runs smooth and like I said, we're going to be pleading pleading everything for you. So we've set that up kind of streamlined it, and you know we'll put the best product that we cannot there and It's GonNa. It's GonNa. Be a good time. We've. We've also made sure that we're going to be checking temperatures for everybody as they're coming in for the first day right before they start for each day. After that we check them before the tape in the ground. So there's there's some work that goes behind it, but it's it's definitely worth it As I said, we want to focus on safety and and making sure that our members and the guests are. Kobe free. So the let's call it Saturday morning with the temperature, they're going to be a breathalyzer. But we may have some IV bag set up in case anybody need Alexa. You Laugh. But you know what? We have Michael Thompson on earlier and the Thompson Family Foundation had a golf tournament and they actually did have a tent that was doing. Like. The those fast flow vs. One of them was like they were doing fast flow IV's, and there were two different sports one you could get, and then just straight hydration along with B twelve shots and trust. When I tell you, there was a line to get. It did at ten afterwards. So I'm cool. Would you take my temperature before just promise me during the tournament, you don't take the temperature, my putter because it's going to be. How? Much how much you guys GonNa be wagering within the flights I. Want to hear some some major smack talk. Okay a couple things one. What inside information? Can you give us into the flights here? On three nights before the biggest member guests in the state of Connecticut. Well. I'm not gonNA give anything with, but I'll just so that you guys have a pretty pretty entertaining flight. We're not. We're not. We're not going to give any peekers just yet. Okay. Got Plenty of time for that Clemmie. Entertaining. How? With the WHO's in the group. In our flight. You mean it's going to be entertaining because a WHO's in our flight. Oh. Yes. Okay. I like to hear that. That's fine. I like to be out. Take the suspension stuff. I'll just ask you this because I've never been over to your golf course before. Is there. Is there a prevailing like at Augusta everything breaks down towards RAE'S CREEK? Yes. Everything here breaks toward CIGNA. Say that. Same thing. Okay. But I got no where CIGNA is and what the hell? What if? What if I have blue cross blue. Does that mean? Steering. Committee. Little. Toy. Day for the practice round. Absolute. We're coming. We're coming out tomorrow coming tomorrow. We're GONNA play on Wednesday to get the late land I'm going to get see. This is what true caddy the earlier. I can get there in the more homework Atkin do like if y'all have yardage books. COUPLA. Might Vanish. Now I've got one I ordered one. Oh, swing on a website what? Yeah. Okay. No, that worry. I. Do we're actually in the process of working with on? No company that is as custom yards books, and the customer cards. So they are in production as we speak. We should becoming in hopefully within the next couple of weeks. Of course, we don't have them for the three day, which would have been cranky. Awesome. WILL LASERS BE ALLOWED? Absolutely as long as they don't have slope, you can have the Bush now like to use Bush knows in golf shop so. I Got Bush now guy, how do you regulate them Bush? Now Guy Does he? That's another one. You're asking people to be in the circle of trust. Well it is a gentleman sport. Isn't it? Yeah. Did pose the be cheated in the member gas last year as I recall. Correct. I don't know what it was. Last year might have been a couple of years ago. So you don't think I will go around I. Will Call People Out Man right in front of their mom. If I if I see that you're Bush. Knell has the little switch flip than I, see the red because red means illegal. What are we taking pictures and shaming you on social? I will come after you become a caddy Karen. So. Roy Give, give the caddy as we get you out of here. Give the CADDY. Some final advice going into. This is only the second member guest. He's ever played. It only remember guest you've ever played ever, and this is this is going to be the first multi day one. So you. You'RE GONNA have a phenomenal time. First of all, Tony Brooke does an awesome job. Saint John's going to have the course prepared. She's our superintendent. Says stickney he came from a break Oh and Max Restaurant Group. That menu is fantastic. I would say just gear up be prepared for some long nights and just enjoy golf course, and of course, it's GonNa. Be Great gruden awesome. Open Bar all three days. So drink lots of gator in the morning straight jump back on that horse and go again. Look I'm actually need you to do that. Because Matinee. Mattie, I have been talking about how we're GONNA play this. Are we going to go like? This is vegas like this is how we're. GonNa. Do the hangover or are we GONNA do dislike we're trying to win see, but open bar now you changed everything. I. Got you a little excited, which is nice because you know we've had multiple cars left in the parking lot after Friday night. So Friday night. Usually are our late night where we do a putting contest, and that goes probably until about eleven o'clock. Maybe even when I am, we've had some nights where guys just haven't left. They stay on the plane Green and seven am next morning. They're hitting range balls. So it's going to be good weekend or said caddy move I can't wait. We find somebody sleep in the bushes brought my dreams come true. Roy Maxwell as. Professional. double-booked country, Club near Connecticut Roy. We cannot wait to get out there and play have some fun. We can't guarantee there won't be any debauchery from our flight, but it'll be fun the less. Well, we've certainly encourage I'm looking forward to it. Thank you guys appreciate it very much for having me on the show in looking forward to this three day for a country club. So. Here's the other thing. Roy, we appreciate the time and everything doing it again, listen if you're if you're member guesses on. The He. I'm sure your local golf pro is fantastic. We had some more stringent rules out here in the state of Connecticut. So they feel like everybody could work together. These are big economic engines for golf clubs around the country. Pass. It along to your local pro, right. Maybe that'll help out. Here's the other thing that I'm personally having a hard time with this is my first member guest at this club. Okay. Because last year I was working there was doing weekends. Wasn't able to participate. You make a good point when you and I have talked. In previous podcast about this. These things tend to get. Rowdy. Bows and drinks. Your food were playing a lot of golf. Yeah. We're going eighteen, twenty, seven, eighteen. That's just in the tournament. Right? We've got an SEC impractical practice. No shootouts noth-. Nothing. So What throttle? Do Matting the caddy. WanNa. Take this. We'll see here's the thing. Here's this is why always asked this? Are. We literally are we legitimately going at this as a competition, we're going to try and win this thing. Or is this like, Hey, man. We're here. We're going to have a good time going GONNA, party it up a little bit like you know. If we're not trying to win. Then you know what? Flat out balls to the wall along. With. Metal and let's just try not to get. You kicked out the club like I kind of want to kiss. We're going to do we. See. That's what I'm saying we'll do. Where you kicked out the club, but you can come back. Just. Don't tell nobody. So here's what I think we should do. because. I'm a competitor me too and your competitor, and you know I'm not a big I'm not is the problem with me getting flat out drinking drinking. It's my recovery time yet, I, I can go flat out drinking, but then I need two days to recover I know and a cart is going to be like, Oh, you can just sit in the car and gatorade up. No. No, I can't then. Like, America's caddy is America's sickly-looking looking America's lush. Yeah. This is I don't want to be. So why don't we do this? Can I first of all? Why don't we play first day? That's exactly where I was going I. Think we give it now having said that I, think you can have a beer or two door. Ironic. Don't get me wrong. I'm not being teetotaler like I. Donald. T told him I didn't think he had that in he big word. Yeah. It's good. Spirit new show. I. Let it slip. We'll get that. But I think, here's what we do. We play the eighteen, the two, nine home matches on Friday. All right. We play those out. First of all, you know we got a practice around the par three contest Thursday. You'll get a feel for game on this particular course. Yes. Nine three, nine, twenty, seven, facility. Cool. We played the first three or the first two matches on Friday eighteen holes. We see where we stand going into. Saturday if we are in the mix our flight. I say, we give it twenty seven holes. So eighteen on Friday, and then the first nine on Saturday. Because by then you're going to have a good idea if you're competing or not, and then by Sunday, we're GONNA, no one or two things. Gas Pedal or breaks. Saturday I will tell you based on what time we go off, breakfast, Bloody Marys, all that kind of thing, which you see my game once I get one, if I'm have a bloody Mary. And Chill, maybe one more at the turn right I'm case is perfect Mehta's yes e- hob. I'm doing gatorade and I'm like I don't drink sodas so not really, but you know, but it's s the after golf stuff now. Yeah. But see I'M You have to understand as a guy who did comedy professionally for. Twenty. Years. After, show. You, know me like I don't start drinking when everybody else's finished, and that's the thing if we're not going flat out while we're playing knowing that other people will be going flat out. They're gonNA, be coming to the table on Friday night like Ray just trying to take it to that next to the Vegas level. That's right which means they can't recovered in. An, what do you still have? Do. You still have blowfish left. I do okay. Good. We're going to need to end the blowfish case, former friend of the programs me. We'll have those out there. Sunday Monday. My flight is pretty ill. Yeah. We might. We're GONNA definitely need those so. If you if you've never. Considered following at Mattie and caddy on Instagram ty y the word, and now's Italian add. Of An encourage you to follow us this week because there's going to be pictures. William Murray Golf centers close where script we're going to scrape where script and every day we've got. We've got practice round close scripting all the way through show Ashley, like would you GonNa have on? Yeah, and what does she loved them see now does way Murray. So my wife to thinks it's all love the flower one because it's called southern charm, the name of that shirts called Southern Charm based on from Augusta right. She's from the south. She loves that show Southern Charm on Bravo. That one, my wife didn't understand why I sent. You pictures of what I was wearing, and she was like, why wouldn't you just wear the same outfit? No, you can't. That bowling. That's what that then you're that team. I'm? Not. GonNa. Say there aren't going. Out there that are doing it, but it's not going to be us. The the closest we may get. Is. A actually. I don't even want to do that. Not as you've got the pin high Polo. So Do I from William Murray? Right? You've got the white one. I've got the blue one right, and that's fine. Because here's the thing with that with the with the pin high, even if you switch to the horse shoes. No No. No. I'm going to wear the pin high. But. I don't WanNa both wear the pin high in the same. Even though yours is white minds blue. That would be the thing where it will be. Okay. It would. That would be okay. If if as long as it's different color like even we make guys make fun of each other on the PGA tour because there's so many Nike athletes out. Yes, and those dudes can't help it every now, and then two or three guys got the same outfit on a Thursday, and of course, then we're revenge, this just should be, yes. Hey, what's up new boy band y'all trying. But what if we didn't give a damn it? We did it I don't. Know, anybody sent each of us. This is what I told. My Wife. The reason that we both love William Murray so much is that it's individual style. That's it. So if you're doing a team thing that is not an individual style, now, they're not gonNA wear your wearing, not gonNa, wear what my style does not match your style. Supposed to infect the stuff that our friend, brandon, Barrett send us from William Murray different completely different. He'll send me stuff that he knows you have no business wearing and he'll send you stuff like mass second aware that I do bitch though sometimes when you get shirts that I. I'll be the first. Baby sometime. So visit it. Did I'm telling you if you've never follow us on Instagram at Mattie and caddy also the twitter at Mattie and it may tdy and cad e. we want to know some of your favorite member guest stories from either the guy who's walking around throwing out. If you've got pictures, you got pictures will re tweet them I. got some outfits from the last caddyshack. All right. So they're not doing it this year, hit us up with all your stories. We'll put them out of social media. It's going to be fun. All right. Now to the actual Gulf being played WGC there was news this afternoon that the PGA tour made a modification to health and safety policy that's going to allow players and caddies who test positive for Kobe thousand, nine hundred have symptoms, but have gone twenty four hours without a fever to return to competition after ten days, and they're also going to be allowed to use the clubhouse and locker room in not be separated with specialty times as has been the case in the reason, we and going to be anymore Cova groups. She liked the fact that they did that. As, long as you guys were as symptomatic, those who test positive without symptoms are required to have to negative tests. Twenty four hours apart before being allowed to return to competition. Now, these that last covert group that they put together, those guys were still testing positive. They weren't testing negative, but it was ten ten day quarantine, right? They weren't showing any symptoms whatsoever, but they were still testing positive for a while. I do have a Nick Wani. I. Do like how the PGA. This is one of my favorite things and I I wish the PGA would get more credit for this is we're on sportscenter day. We're talking about the NFL, what they're doing and major league baseball about baseball headache with the Marlins Jay Monahan. I'm telling you this dude is as a commissioner for a traveling circus, what we are with the PGA tour killing it. That dude. Historically like it sucks that it's GonNa take this for people to look back and understand what an amazing thing he's been able to do. But this dude is not getting the credit. He deserves because in the one place where I wanNA give most credit is that he's willing to adjust fly? Yes. He He. They literally change things based on scenario every couple of weeks, which is what you have to do anyone who's just just stubborn in their policy. It doesn't understand that you need to evolve. It is going to fail PG has been brilliant with this. Yeah. When it comes to making adjustments to situational. Things that happened with the guys that are out there how it's all broken down. to be able to be fluid, and that's that's one of the things that I love about. The Guy to is that he's come out and said, look this changes every twenty minutes right, and so we're just going to have to learn how to deal with it. There's no point of being stubborn. The fact that he just came out and said, that was basically telling everybody. If you think that whatever we say is is in stone and brick, and it's GonNa stay that way forever. Then you're an idiot. because. That's not how this is GonNa work, and so the fact that he's being able to do all of this on the fly, and then you get guys who have tested positive come back. Someone like Nick. Watney. Who has a great tournament last week as well, and you know, but to Kim even talk about incorrect. But the fact that he's allowed back. Yes and do a lot of the compete and to your point, make some good money in the process. I? Wish the PGA. How do I say this? Because, it's mainstream to us because it's our sport run. Love the sport. I wish she was big three big four sport mainstream to where people were paying more. I'll tell the other sport that gets screwed right now, hockey. They just tested every zero result, twelve, hundred over twelve hundred tests and not one positive. Why aren't we talk about that before? You know. So credit the PGA Tours, dues, it a sweat, and with a quick, all the equipment they gotta wear I'm looking the ice aboard. That's after this. The game. So I mean to credit the PGA tour for continuously evolving, keeping this board of save can as you put it perfectly a traveling circus. We do talk about something that neither of us going to talk about. His he's a friend of the PODCAST. He's been on the podcast. He's been on sportscenter with me. Are, Boy Tony. Inability, to close. He's got a lot of tens. He had an opportunity last week again at the three M. In Minneapolis Saint Paul, let's start with his caddy. Not knowing that you gotta put on some SPF thirty on exposed skin. Well, let's start with him changing his caddy. Well, what went on there? It's just you know what? It's the nature of. The game. You know every caddy. When you first get hired. You know that this is a temporary job. You know that's just the way that that it works. The average is the average is usually two and a half years. So sometimes is it as simple as just need a different voice, right? I need to hear somebody else to say it's the same reason why guys switched coaches a lot of times. It's because once you hear the same thing over and over again, it's like. An old. Then it gets stale and and there are some times where for whatever reason? It may not be sinking in. The coach could be teaching all the right things, but sometimes, you're not saying it the way that resonates and communication. That's what matters and that's the. That's the big thing with it. That's why it's literally is a relationship and communication is the key and sometimes. Especially, in in in where Tony Female was if you're not getting the winds. You got a guy, you know. He's a guy like Bruce. Kepco will ricky's ricky. Elliott has been with Brooks, Koepka since were on a European tour day. But look at the result. Yup. So it's easy to have that relationship stay fresh because it's like. We know when? When you're clicking and I'm clicking game over. And sometimes when you're not quicken as the player, but the caddy is cooking that cat is GonNa get you a top five or help you stay in the top five when you don't have your best because he's going to say some things to make sure that bogey isn't a double correct. He's GonNa say distance bogeys in a row. He's gotTa remember something from the day before and say, remember when you hit it over there. Let's try it over there today. No, it says over there, but we bogeyed try little things. People don't understand the. There's there's always been this thing with Jordan spieth and Michael Gretler. But people don't understand and Jordan gives griller a lot of credit, which again, I give a lot of credit Jordan for for Saint for coming out and saying it. But one of the biggest reasons why Jordan was able to win. The open championship was because of what micro Gretler said in the situation. and. That's you want to be a great caddy on the PGA tour. It's not just knowing what to say. It's knowing when to say it, and sometimes when not the talk when not to say nothing right when. Everything instinctually is like man, this is the time you should probably speak up and. He's yeah. It's like Nah. Sometimes you know what he needs to be over there and have a little red, ass. Yup, and that's maybe his slap in the face of the kicking the behind. He's GonNa need where if you try and say something in that moment not only is it not going to resonate? It's going to have the opposite. Yeah. So sometimes when you just like you know what sit over there and seve. and. But there are times when in that moment you do have to say something you do you can't let them see than sit there, and so that's so okay. So you bring up and yeah. I'm glad you brought up speed. He turns twenty seven this week, July twenty, seven, his birthday hard to believe at twenty seven years old eleven, PGA tour wins three majors. Two, Thousand Fifteen Fedex Cup champion two, thousand, Fifteen PJ tour player of the year two, thousand thirteen PJ to a rookie of the year twenty, six total weeks at world number one at twenty, seven years. What's wrong with? That resume that I've got your thanking Hall of Famer. Yes. But he's not playing well and so. What? See here's the deal though played well by who standards this. I just read all. Yes, the. Problem, you make your resume, his two, thousand fifteen was one of the greatest seasons in golf history of but one grand. Slam. We judge him on that. That's the pro-. The problem has been saying this since it happened since he came out in two thousand and thirteen, the way that he won the John Deere. Everything about his success. What's the easiest way? The easiest way to say this is? The problem with his success, it was overnight. was there was no failure? Well, there was a gradual. Well, the problem is when you first come out onto the tour and you fail because you're going against all the best players in the world. Then what happens is you you stay hungry and? You Grind. Slowly, let me use an analogy. Re where I think you're trying to go at this. Brooks. Koepka was a gradual rise to golf dominance and stardom. Didn't. He couldn't even get on the PGA tour. Okay. So He's a guy that we just kinda. There's there's this guy, this American, a young American who could one day when the masters because he's built perfectly for it isn't one at yet, but he was the guy, the next Guy Spaeth. You people. Forget. A little refresher course, two, thousand, fourteen was the show. HOUSTON. Open to get into the masters wasn't even qualified for it. Wins the week before gets into the masters at went toe to toe with Bubba Watson in two thousand and fourteen I'm Sunday. Yes. So that was just about everyone introduction to Jordan speed I'll take you back even further when he's a junior in high school, I covered him in that tournament I. Might Him up followed him went to school Nelson like? This exemption only people knew that. Followed Hardcore Golfer because I worked the Dallas Market, he went to Dallas Jesuit. We knew about the young high school. Yes. I remember going back to our station. Jordan spieth kid he's going to be good and this whole zone and I said at the time on Xm radio to be fair, we call it the no name, Nelson that year because no one was in it. But anyway, yeah. Well, this kind of happens high school junior it. But look what he did. Yeah. He made the cut and then contentious and people were like. Is this kid for real and I was like his time at Texas will show us. And played fantastic at Texas. And that was. Not Having. EPIC fails. A lot of. Times will. Mean a crash comes, right. It's GonNa last longer because it's GonNa, take more time. Adjust to it like if you're not used to failure than. When failure does happen after? Success First, and then failure failure hit you a lot harder. Correct Law. Yeah. Domos like we see. Then this isn't Jordan I. It's a bad analogy. Forgive me. But it's the MacAulay. Culkin's the childhood stars and all of a sudden. You're no longer a list or you hit a-list early right and you show with Piercings Punk, rock hair and A. Bad Habit again. No, but he hit quick because the first. One Year catty at three wins. Show, Houston Open. He's going to do with Bob on a Sunday the masters. He has a fifteen for the ages. Yeah, and that's That's the thing why. I laugh. Now, when people are like, what's wrong with nothing is wrong with Jordan. It's not. It's not. It's not even Jordan, by thing is when you look around your like Rory still out there DJ still out there, Brooks is still out there. Oh. Yeah. Justin. Thomas who played junior with Jordan coming up like he's out there to like all of these other dudes are still out there playing golf and just because they didn't have that rocket in the very beginning. To success like Jordan did now it's like these guys are all starting to catch up like, Jordan. Jordan is doing now George, he's right. Normal these I know that's a normal PGA too. But I, will I will. Expectations are too hot, right? I will contend that. His abnormal. Is His fault? That's what we we became accustomed to that throwing he was. Ask. The same question he was day Jason. Day got the world number one, one major on the way getting their like he wanted the PGA yea. His trajectory at there was a moment there for eight months when it was like, Oh, it's all as the next guy. See what? I say this with all the utmost respect with the Jason Days, the Justin Roses, some of these other guys because the Italian about the status of body. NO DISRESPECT Slice. Forget about it. By the way, I watched this new show a net flicks. Fear City, the mob versus New York. How they brought down the five families at one time. Phenomenal. Okay. All right, and I got a new show too. But no disrespect. But the number one ranking wants tiger relinquished it. and. We talked about this with Jon Rahm and it was hilarious. I would have people read stats like dude. CATTY. You're. Way Wrong on Rom. But it was looking for a number. One number one was looking for a number one. Okay. So there was some other dude up there the only. There have been three guys post tiger that I've looked at as the number one. Golfer. Dustin. Johnson. Brooks Kapka Roy mcelroy. Okay. So. What's wrong with us in Johnson? A Lot. Injuries. Now he's at right. You. Think back is more messed up. There's something going on there. You think. So you do doesn't mean eighty, eighty, seventy eight W is not good. So back, then why is he playing this week I? Don't know if tigers like you know what? How come, Dustin can't take book from? Tiger. Like how come you can't take a page out of at this is what I understand but back. Far to speak. So in in a roundabout way back to female. Fina made the caddy change because the communication in terms of like. You. Know it was just time. It was just it was just. So knowing what we saw at of Jordan early and what he's in now. Why not move on from Gretler? Why not see it because I think they're great relationship but. Like what y not for the same reason that if there's a lull in marriages, you don't just dip out. Okay. Great Answer. It's the same thing because you know the success that's there, and because you know what you're going through is not failure. That's the other thing. It is not failure. See that it would be. It would be a lot different if Jordan. If he was just miscut miscount miscount miscount miscount miscount won the open championship. What two years ago. Seventeen. Any don't forget. He came back. He Won Fort Worth to. Allow. That's the thing. It's very we are so. We look at two thousand fifteen and it's like you got to do that every single year that ain't happening again, listen, it's the same reason. People still look at Tiger and be like he won't do two thousand like seriously y'all stop stop. But we're look we're here with Jordan people doing the same thing. It look at the end of the day. Do you think let me ask you this legitimate, right? Do you think Jordan speak can get back to world number one? Okay. So then what's but I think he's GonNa win another major to master. He's GonNa. Be The guy that wins multiple masters. You know what? I would not be surprised in this in the least amount. If he's not in contention at the championship, I agree going into harding park I agree and I talked to him about that like what, what that? What that means you know because here's the deal like we know the pressure rory can say whatever he wants like look the masters now rare. Grand Slam, it's GonNa like I'm trying to focus on that but as soon as you drive down the. Lane. Rack. You remember that tenth Hole Yes shut up. And that's inner demons. Snap Hook re put in someone's backyard. He don't have no inner demons when it comes to the PGA Championship. No. So he doesn't and the ones that we thought. He added a master's after you almost another one that he dropped it and hit the dropshot twelve but. Speaking of I mean I agree the speed thing getting back to I? Don't I don't know that he'll ever get back to world number one, but it's I'm not saying as a knock on Jordan I. I'm not saying he can't do it. But what I'm saying is there's a whole bunch of other people that can also go on runs like he did in two thousand fifteen. So you mentioned something that you talked to Jordan spieth about it and it was it just any conversation I apologize for the Audio, not being great here. But I'M GONNA play this clip of what actually went down. You should ever mask on nor do be married. In this episode will give you an inside look at TV seen harding's park here, a beautiful San Francisco ahead of the two thousand, twenty PGA championship. Shout out to all the. Sittings. I make my try to make I. Think you can't give me. We'll also catch up with Bruce, KEPCO WHO has back to back in two thousand, eighteen nineteen and is going for the PGA Championship Three Peat Plus Jordan will tell us what it's been like to be on the PGA Tour Wig off in the midst of. Damage your I guess too, no pressure. And I'll tell you about rory mcilroy a story. You gotTa See. twenty-five grounded etc day. Twenty. Five. Our boy starting tomorrow July twenty ninth. Is Leaving Nine The band. No not and launching a solo album I'm not leaving the band though. Darius Rucker, he's still Houdini, blowfish. It is a huge congratulations to our boy. America's caddy Michael Collins who tomorrow the debut episode of America's CADDY ON ESPN plus. What a moment? What an opportunity I can't believe is we couldn't be happier for you in crowder of you've everything that you've done as man, please tell the patrons was this is all about. So I man where to start. This. Is Part of the global pandemic, and this is kind of been what my life has been. It's like, Hey, man, we got idea. We think you'd be great for this new show we wanted to be based around town. Golf. Fun. Heck Yeah I'm in. Let's do it. Now, always been my dream I, perfect. Set it up. We're going to film this stuff going to base it around this time. Perfect. Bam, Global Pandemic Boom Cova. Like. Hey, are we still filming? Seawater haven't was cove in nineteen, but Through. Sheer will of the people. Behind this show and there are lots and lots of people behind this show. We, we made it happen, and so this is the premiere episode of America's Caddy, which is based around as you heard the PGA championship and I had I did zoom interview with Jordan Spaeth. That part with Rory, mcelroy is actually an animated segment. Where I did interview. I don't know if people remember, but in two thousand and fifteen. That was the last time we were at TPC, Harding Park Yup, and that was the week that Keegan Bradley Miguel on Hill. Jimenez almost got in a fight. Yes. On Friday. What was that tournament? It was the WGC. That was. Oh. Okay. It was, but it was Cadillac. That's the way. Yeah. But it was it was the matchplay and Rory is talking about twenty, five, thousand, a ticket was he had a private jet and was going to go to Vegas. For the Mayweather Pacquiao fight, and this that segment is the story of how that went down. Isn't that when you guys were in the tents drinking, let's just say that instead of being ringside, rory me Danny Willett and a few other guy people were watching the fight on a twenty one inch screen computers, I remember that and then who bought the booze so. Don't don't don't spoil it. Okay. Got To watch the episode. Yeah. You gotTa Watch because that's the thing. So I mean we ended up having instead of him being ringside in Vegas for the fight. We had pizza and beer in the media in the interview room. We couldn't even put it on the giant screen in the media center which they tried. It didn't work. and. So this is the story of what happened that week and then what led up to rory, not being able to go to mayweather, Pacquiao. So it's awesome. It's the first episode. Boys got his own show. Has. Don't show America's caddy. debuts. On. ESPN plus. And I swear to you. All that is holy in this on this earth. Also what will try to do is if there's synergy within the network, we'll try to clip off in an interview here and there and break down each episode. But I want it I want this on the record so that when I get litigation going the people know this is on the record. I'm the one. Who coined? Yes America's cat. Yes. I'll give you. So. Yes. With the trademark lawyers get involved. Because there's someone else that our network that I coined. For. Him. On television. And they ran with it. And now, this person has given me credit for it. But they ran with it, and so is he getting money for though? I don't think. So okay. Because I'm not getting I, didn't get cash for this. But if I get cash I will happily hook you up. Fifteen percent twenty percent. Take it easy man. As a Category A win. So the category winning and no twin. My my naming branding is all over this damn thing by the way, not only is it all over this show? You should see Kennedy's luggage. It's gotTA. America's CATTY. Everywhere, who's GonNa steal it though no one see as true. We are happy for him an. Someone. Exciting look you get, I'll be the first to admit to like this all. The start of my trajectory. Yeah. That espn going where went is all because of you in coach Yup Jonathan, coachman you and Jonathan Coachman were the ones both because both our doing sportscenter separately. But both off fought the hardest to put me on sports and he would be doing nights doing daytime and weekends, and all the tournaments were going on it, and before anybody will even thinking about, put me on sports centers because you guys were like, Nah, we want this dude on sportscenter talking golf and that's Honestly. Man that started everything, but it goes back to me and you were doing stuff together. In fact, I'm going to give you that date from the basement from the basement and Thua headquarters, it was called across the pond. Yes. There was a little digital operations that we did for USPS DOT com, but the first time. So this. Uh, this goes back and look at where he is. Now, not just me man you I'm just some dopey sports, heroes, error fronts, the masters every once in a while sportscenter and I'll be calling fees whatever college football. Our first television you and I ever did together ever ever I, I have the date in the place really and the picture right here on my phone. The first television that we ever first television or digital first television. We ever did and the only reason and digital spawned off of this. Was it the Christmas now, it wasn't. It wasn't the Chris, it wasn't home may six. Two Thousand Fifteen? WHOA. Are you serious the players? That's it. I was caddying for you. That is the first time. TV together, they six, two, thousand, fifteen at the players. Holy Cow Post, the picture. That's awesome and I was carried. I was carrying a bag for carried a bag for on the. North and I were. There s when our coverage for sportscenter. We were doing a bunch of coverage there, and that was our first television. So from there. To now having your own show congratulations and I'm so happy and proud of you, I cannot wait to watch it although I did get an email today, the car that was on file for ESPN plus subscription was declined because I had one on there. So provided that I pay for my ESPN plus tonight I'll be able to watch thirteen dollars and I got sodas. Three reasons, one, of course, selfishly going to say, ESPN plus for America's Catty, you can bundle them. That's what I'm saying is for. That's why I say there's three things ESPN plus for America's caddy. Disney plus Hamilton. Hulu for everything else now, pure. Have you ever seen the show? Pure pure? Bra What is it? Mennonites and the Mexican cartel. Is I. Really Do I had no somebody was just like you know just look up pure and I was like, oh. Man, this sounds Hulu Original Hulu original because I'm the first to admit that I'm so locked on Netflix News. But. So who lose getting into Game Bra pure, you're welcome really, and this is a guy who. Grew up in, Lancaster, county around the Amish and Mennonite and when I say. So I got amish people in cartel, mennonites would see you guys. Like Christie, they're called black bumper men tonight, and the reason that the call black bumper is because they're allowed to have cars, but their religion, they don't, you're not allowed to have anything shiny because. It projects as like look at me. Yeah. So they they and this is real. And they're in Lancaster County as well. There's not one piece of chrome on there. So like the Mennonites were the originals, the black stuff out. Like, they were the first ones that have cars that was blacked out because there's no chrome on and whatsoever. So they because the bumpers were black. So is this. Docu series man, this is scripted TV ripped my God. I am so and I know and there's only two seasons but season three common, but I'm telling you. So there's three reasons. So America's Caddy, on, ESPN plus dead. Disney also features. Championship. ESPN plus like put selfishly. Baking more to catty yeah. But on Hulu, and all this for thirteen bucks. So you can bundle them all. All of twelve, nine, hundred, shut your kids up during Cova. Do you get all the Disney movies and whatnot everything? By the way, while my recommendation while you gave me years pure fierce city, new. York versus the Mafia I actually saw commercial for them and it looks as a credible brought the five family. Yeah. And it was when this was when the five families ruled New York seven Yup Seventies. When New York was dirty. Let me tell you man could go times square the. You need to get a tetanus shot after you leave there and it might like I didn't even touch nobody is still my burn was heinous. Penicillin, all of it, you put a Condo Rodney entire body. I pick time for this week results we do have to so results from last week. We're how how long are we on this pod by this is fifty, three dollars because we're, we're with each other. So now we're just rolling, we can't help it so. The picks from last week. I'm sorry. What's the record? Let's start with the wreckage living. You know the thing. is as he's looking at this seeing the busy summer. Right. Now, head to head caddies up forty two with another victory last week because my damn birds by picks were better. I'm sorry what they just weren't. We added the the rule of plus two player missed the cut. Who did that hurt more me at two guys, Mr Kazi. So your own fault for not letting catty twenty four under last week. Matthew Wolf was horse terms the scoring last week fourteen under your Flyer Sam Berns ten under your Flyer. Did I say our flyers? You at fourteen, hundred. Matt Wolf Sam Berns ten under Scott stallings three-under. Yet. One player missed the cut Eric Van Roy and with the two stroke penalty for missing cut he finished plus three of your combined total of minus twenty four, my team, Tony Now sixteen under. Thought we. Got Thousand. Hit or bonus win to. Win. Luke List my flyer ten onder. So both of our flyers finished at ten under. Tommy fleetwood missed the cut surprising at one over and Charley Hoffman missed the cut at six over. So with the two strokes have had their fifteen under for my team. So caddy now four and two on the year head to head, and you're climbing in the stroke play. Eighty one under you are sixty, nine under, but only twelve back compared to one time thirty something. So there's a lot of stuff going on with your boy that caddy right now. So pick time this week gotta bring up I, got to bring up the field though. And because it is your t box, remember the rules are the following. You don't like the fact that you can't. That you can't re up dude. So they just take a guy and ride him. Yeah. Until you don't play, but I'm not A, we 'cause I have fi fi now would have been the guy who is. Older. It from me? That's just called SMART. Yeah. Well, you know what Karma to ask. Cool did. All right. Let's see here. All right. So this week. That's we didn't win any money. Dr. King's last week at broke are three weeks stretch of winning money. Oh, really. Why, is his thing switched over? This is great podcasting, right? It is whereas relook print it out the podcast, but do you think I put it in my printed out the Pie I printed out the field. But do you think I was smart enough to go ahead and put it in? Of course? Not? Yeah. Why would I do something like this? Ridiculous because? I. Ask you this while I'm looking for the field though If, you're Dustin. Johnson, why are you playing this? Was I. don't know. He must. Of course last week and said to hell with it. So you went eighty and then went to another CFC, didn't like, no, I. Think I think something's wrong. But we'll find out because I. You know honestly I tried wanted to give it one more shot to know if he's going to be able to play the PGA. That's honestly what? I seriously. Yes see I'm not feeling that man because I think he doesn't feel good enough about his body where he wants to go out there and give it another run. Have you found it yet? Don't you them here. Isn't that a laptop? No Man this month this. IPAD. But see I keep it protected. Oh. Yeah. It looks like a laptop. You should see how many covering singing. I. So artem ready. I pick. Actually know what while you're I'm GONNA. Go get my laptop while you're 'cause. I gotTa right the Pick Oh. Yeah, we got easier. It from here? Okay. I can text the to myself. So your pick your box fire way. John, Ron. You you're like I would think I would love. Jon. Rahm. Because the Arizona State thing, your attraction of John Rama's getting borderline unhealthy. Why? Because he keeps finishing in the top five, but you know it's funny. My borderline obsession for my first pick. Justin Thomas has probably seen. That's because I just don this right now is the best player in the world. What? Okay You. got. Justin. Thomas. And off of that I'll take rory mcilroy. Where we're going. We're go-. Power this I, scared. Because he's my favorite and you know it. I'm sexy. Price into Shambo. Have to pick a horse because we are going just chalk right now. Here's the so going in WGC, it is what you guys the thing. So catty so far John Rob Roy mcelroy and you got Justin Thomas. Bryson D Shambo is bracing GONNA have. Another meltdown air probably. Think so yeah, I mean I think he's still going to get top five i. do think he's going to play spectacular but I'm I'm curious to see like how? Yeah how it all plays out for. I Ready Yup I'll Take D. who you saw enough at the memorial to buy in A. Did I. It's going to be one, hundred, thirty, seven degrees. So his back not going to be for him. Heat matters tiger. Now, he doesn't matter, but for for Jason he matters. Like, I wouldn't pick Jason Same, friend. Known as back, his back is bothering him just a little bit. Billy. Horsham. It, that is a surprising pig billy who kind of deleted himself from social media. He said he's staying off Billy Oh billy horseshoe. Would he have qualified for sleeper? Yes. Yeah. You can have him as your sleeper if you like because that's what we're going on now. Right right now you're you're three players, Rob Roy, mcelroy Jason Day, your sleep promised Bryson di Shan Bo, and Billie. Horseshoe. Now. Because it's because it's a A WGC. The the. Sleepers are not necessarily going to be like crazy sleepers, right? They're going to be known so. my. I'm torn between two. Dudes, but I'm kind of. Man. Daniel Berger. Practically, pick. I was I on him. All right. So here's what I am going to do. I, am to install billy horseshoe will my sleeper? Okay. Only because I'm GonNa Take Webb Simpson and he doesn't qualify sleeper I would I would. Okay I. I would be fine with either of them. Okay. I would have been fine with either of them. So let me right sleeper here. For Burger, I almost jumped on the Patch agree bandwagon again. Because that's the guy I thought, you were GonNa say who I gotTA unhealthy. Will that to? To. Well, him. So to recap, caddy John, robbery, macaroni, Jason Day, the sleeper Daniel. Berger. And I've got Justin Thomas Bryce into Shambo Webb, Simpson and Billy Horseshoe. All. Right. So now let's cue draft kings and see what we can afford. And I gotta get the girl going so we can get some burgers grilled know. Star equipment at House laddy. Yeah, we're doing. We'll have the founds tonight on or. I should say it's it's. It's. It's already. It's already happened when you hear this, but you could check out the replay or I. Think we're on. SIRIUSXM on demand as well to your number. One pick with Jon. Rahm. He's the most expensive and draftkings this week. So we'RE NOT GONNA we're, GONNA wait. Okay. Let's go down to the cheapest. Are. First four picks the most expensive guys rob, Rory Shambo Justin Thomas. I think they're all out. Okay. Next cheapest guy, we can get Webb Simpson Ninety, nine, hundred. In. Daniel Berger. Six, hundred in. J.? D.. Now. We're moving down, J eighty, two, hundred and. Now, we're going down and disability hustle. Now, we're going down to the. Would, did you? where! Where where do you shop? TJ Max. We're going down to Tj Maxx now, Billy Ho? Yes. He He. You are. Ross. Ross which is hilarious. There's. A store. That's Jamaican term for terrible eight, thousand, five, hundred. All right. So we have. Two players left. They. Need to average sixty, nine, hundred, each. How much is p read. So. Here's WHO's it seven, thousand, and lower. Michael Thompson. Kevin Kisner. Stroman. Rafa. Cabrera. Van Royan who stays at Sixty, eight hundred. That seems like a nice by doesn't it? Chas reveals sixty, seven, hundred Shane lowry sixty, six, hundred, Phil Mickelson's six hundred. Now Start we start up again at seven who was the second guy? So, we can buy right now. Max homers seventy, two hundred. Bubble. BUBBA. Watson seventy, one, hundred, Danny Willett seventy, one, hundred. Kevin Kisner seven thousand. There you go. Okay. UCF, at sixty eight. And Kiss and kiss at seven. So here's our draftkings team. Officially, we're putting it on paper. Webb Simpson. Daniel Berger Jason. Day Billy Horseshoe. So that's good. Because we've got four of our players in our pickup. Yes, and then we're going grade. He was going Kisner. Money spent salary cap boom submitted i. just want a million dollars. All right. I would. How is it that? If America's caddy blows up that I? Got You get some of this. At, least I'm fit. The I don't eat fifty percent I. Got Ta Five. Right so again, follow us this week on social media because this is the week, there's going to be alone league period. This is the week is gonna be videos probably starting, Wednesday, because we're playing golf with caddies boss. He likes to call himself. Anti, add. Editor House. The editor Guys Boston Right. You. 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Matty's Back, Dustin Johnson Wins the Travelers, Poulter Breaks Wind

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Matty's Back, Dustin Johnson Wins the Travelers, Poulter Breaks Wind

"Now on the, It's Mattie in the caddy. Here's Matt, Berry and Michael Collins. Golf most dysfunctional bulow is back. On side the caddy by. High in the Mattie. Is Mattie mcadoo The podcast? For the week of June thirtieth as the two were descends upon Detroit golf club the LAS mortgage. Classic. We are back after a week hiatus the caddy, and by what why look I'm going to give you credit for you and. We had a high eighties. Settle had a high AIDS. I've had a ten year hiatus. If you really think about what we what we were celebrating last week in a good run. And wedding anniversary. You say like. I said well. You know you've had a good ten years, so it's been a decade I'm to trade you in for a newer model. I exactly. Know. Stream for both of us. We like wait. I'm getting treated in re. I told her I said on tenth bursary morning because I I've said it forever. I I said that marriage. You should sign contracts every three years. And they're. Right that benefits everyone because it's like I three years. Yeah, we're doing well aside from the three more that way you know at the end of each contractual term. There doesn't need to be some big dramatic divorce. True? And the problem is. F You signed in two years, not working at heart. You know what I mean because he know everybody. Everybody shows out in a contract year. So the thing you know how good your they think about how good the mayor will be in a contract year because you know, contracts protect television networks they protect. Athletes Trooper. Desert working out if we paid too much money for athlete, actually we're done with. This is their injury clause. I had the same as an impotence closet. Like what do we think thing? I mean like the blue pills, not working. We got the goes. You might not be worth quite as much. Yeah. We'll keep you around, but you got a lot more chores now. and. I'm going to add to the next three year contract a player to be named later. Never done working around the tenth anniversary. Thanks for filling and We had another successful tournament out here in Hartford with the travelers. Dustin Johnson now thirteen consecutive years of winning a tournament Yup, which is unbelievable. Yes, thirteen well seasons rap. Yeah seasons yeah, thirteen because there was one year. That I guess is kind of Astra's. They counted as a season, but in the calendar year wasn't regardless. Look Dude, all he does is win bike. There's there's no way around that. When it comes down to this dude. From the first year, he came on tour. From everything he's been through. This guy is going to add some. He's GonNa win a tournament like not having a slump. For this amount of time is crazy to think of. Here's where I hope. I really really hope. I hope this isn't a footnote in the history of Dustin Johnson. Of the air quote fall down the stairs at Augusta National. Pause. There is no doubt. In my mind whatsoever, he was winning that masters that was what two thousand eighteen. Seventy, really you think. He was gonNA seventeen. The Best Player on the planet and it wasn't close. I understand that, but how many times hop form yet, but that it's the masters May. How many years do we do that with the guy? How many times has rory come in their top form and? He's got baggage I. Understand. Roy has a little bit more baggage, but look there's plenty of times that tigers going in there and everyone's like this is over, and he hasn't won every time. He's heated up there. It doesn't work that way now that that's. Got Guaranteed thing, but it's the one thing that there's no big. It's almost because there's too many people all it takes is one. Do think about you. I would challenge anyone to tell me as show me the gambling ticket that you had on Schol Schwarz all. Meet at ticket like that's the Charles Wurzel. Trevor. Asset Joe Yeah you could go on and on I might wear yet. You go on an on back in the day I. Mean There's plenty of times when guys you're not GonNa, tell me anybody who was betting on Patrick read the year he won and. Letting us. Know your picks because of the gave his experience there. Yeah, report. About. Point valid at what surgery was always in contention there, but the point value me. You can't just go tigers, the only guy I think in golf history where it was. Tiger or the field? Yeah, because even a Jack Jerry at Arnold Palmer. He had some of these areas player for. The, Tom Watson had these guys. But I can't. Legitimately Tiger or the field? Yeah, that's that's very very true and. Until Dustin, Johnson drop the hammer at the US Open at Mont.. He was GONNA be a question, Mark Majors and whatnot until then the way that he won there and it was like Ooh okay well, let's game on now and now that's why when we get around majors and he starts playing well. It's a here's DJ. Again I think the biggest tail coming into that week was. When. Aj Dj's brother Austin who caddies form, told Dottie by man's finally one hundred percent healthy again heads up. Domains last week of the travelers. Yes, yeah, so when you when when his brother caddy. On the course during the tournament is telling the play by play announcer, my my boys finally a hundred percent healthy. We're good, you know I. Did it's like Oh boy? I've Long said. In a couple of years. We've done this podcast. I've long believed this in terms of. Top to bottom. Talent. Just. Talent Dustin Johnson Timmy is number one? In the world, just just absolute. other-worldly. Talent his last thing that he needed was the short game and he worked on that. You win the US that was the the kind of the last thing right, but when it's. Talent. Look. There's a difference between talent it overall. Ability. Okay so I don't want to confuse what I'm saying with Dustin, and well how I feel about Brooks and rory will yeah, because that's why I'm confused. I think there's a difference between. And player okay. So? You think just straight up on talent. Well. What's The I? Guess? Then the question I should ask is what's the difference between talent and ability? Okay so Roy mcelroy, okay, here's hearing near you go Brooks Koepka. Is Not as talented like raw ability is Dustin Johnson. ohka bought kept. Guys got the make up to be a better player. There's always those days, so here's. How here's how I would ask if this does renting, you're feeling. You can win on talent because talent would be your derby game. Yes. And so you think Dj's be game is better than Brooks in Rory's beginning. Yes so. Yes I don't agree but understand how you sane. Because the guys his build his LANC. All of it is just he's just he's. Gulf specimen that I believe that. Brooks just just hits the hell out of the ball like he's just a master. He's cold blooded. He's a robot. Thing mcelroy I'm still a belief that the peak of their power if he's the best player in the world, but in terms of just raw talent. It's DJ. Yes, he, the one thing I would say would be DJ's dude. That could come off of the boat. He could have been out there spearfishing and like sunbathe in just having a good old time he can literally walk off a his boat. Goto, tournament and beat everybody. That's right I. Don't know that the other. Would be able to do that. Necessarily, they need some. Yeah, we'll leave. The injury. Yeah, so I think said the dude that I'm looking at WHO's coming on is Bryson. Like that Guy Right there when I'm telling when brazen gets his wedges figured out it's. What Bryson does with his wedges? What Dj did with his wedges. Game over I, so let's stay on. For a minute I the button up Dustin. Johnson, I think it's really really really really good for golf that an a one player when a tournaments. This early in the resumption of the season well as DJ to favorite, going into memorial and then PGA championship right now. Right now. Great Question. I'd say Yeah I. If he's healthy. Yeah, yeah, we know. Brooks is still working things out right, we think. And look both DJ and Brooks work with Claude Harmon. I think DJ's in a great spot to be the favourite. Ask for Bryson okay. been on him all year. I. Always been, we would always stick up for him because of his reputation on tour. I don't. Like. The new look. Way What I don't like the bolt. Uprising. Because I believe he had the skill set. To not have to do that. And I think it's working Abil-. You'll set to accomplish what though when consistently on tour which is what they WANNA do tournaments or Both! There was no doubt in my mind. Skinny Bryson, who wasn't skinny. Could win a masters. He was built before I believe. He had the thirty six hole liter the eighth lead a couple of years ago. He's got the skill set. To win the masters. What Major to win tournaments. I think you're going down a road when you be cut look, we all had those buddies who were addicted to working out or getting big. And it goes to a level of every day. Right, and internal level of unhealthy obsession in a lot of times, adding muscle also turns into adding fat and I just don't know that we've seen proof of anyone who's gone his route. Stay healthy more than two to three years. Oh, okay. Well I. Don't know any Golfer period who stays healthy for two to three years doesn't have some kind of issues. That's the nature of the sport, but the thing were if the thing that's different about Bryson. Unlike. Rory and even on like tiger. Is the frame. The one thing that I've been harping on a lot all the time when it comes to talking about working out and bulking up the one thing that there isn't. There's no cartilage machine. and. Right and you're not going to be like. Hey, you know what so yesterday I did lattes and tomorrow I'm GonNa do glued and then Thursday I'm GonNa. Do Cartilage be like Yeah Nah? Hey would you working on today I'm GonNa work my tendons out, but doesn't work that way right the two Balkan those up. So what you have to have is a frame that can hold that extra weight. Real skinny dudes when they bulk up. That's where the problem comes is that they don't have the cartilage or tendons to hold that extra mass? Bryson does. Even though Bryson was thinner before he has a friend that actually can hold that weight like Brooks. Brooks is just the naturally as A. He's a bulky boy. Others yeah a big boy, so when when he does all that work now he's been doing it for a long time, so his body's adjusted to like. If you WANNA see what I'm talking about. Framework is just in a family. Look at Brooks compared to his brother chase his brother chase if he tried to bulk up now put on forty pounds with probably get hurt. In the long run like you're saying in two years like you, you can, you can do that. You can put that big. Wait on. You can put on thirty five pounds, but what you've also done. That is flip that sand in the HOURGLASS. And now it's ticket like you just lit the fuse because you only got a certain amount of time bracing I don't feel that way about because the one thing i. think was him is. He hasn't. He hasn't tried to get longer with his backswing. His backswing was pretty short to begin with so the fact that he's not trying to along that and his backswing has stayed pretty much. The same shows me two things one. He's doing the right stretches because he's working out at night instead of in the morning, and then go into the course after that, so he gets stretched out in the morning. Does work at night? Which is a great? I think a good idea for a framework is. And because he's. Because? He's doing that. He's going to be able to stay. 'cause sounds ridiculous supple longer. And I think that's going to help him so I. don't see him getting hurt anti. What motivated him to do it though is that it was a boredom like well know. What was he going to get I think what he saw was if he can put himself in the position to be number one on tour in driving distance. It shortens the distance between him and the whole, and if he can improve on his accuracy with that as well. Then the only thing he's GonNa have to work. On is shorter plus yeah, I mean think about. Think about the difference between going into a par five with a hybrid compared to going in with a six iron. Yeah, and the accuracy. Then you're going to have with that six hundred as compared, but the problem with Bryson what he's going through now is. Is What. Dj went through when you get too long. And you haven't been long before. Everything else gets long to. And now that seventy to ninety yard wedge shot that used to be easy to dial in is now not as easy to dial in Oh yeah, and throw in the fact that all the clubs are the same late so now his lob wedge not only is going to different distance when he pulls it back a certain amount now if he chokes down and pulls it back that same about it's still go the wrong distance. And may you know maybe he's trying to go? The route is like we. We saw the combination that Dustin Johnson at Oakmont, like his ability to hold in that short gang Iran yards. He was just longer unite. In bryson has been playing world class golf, he finished at Seventeen, hundred eight at the. That leaderboard stacks with the Shambo. Our Guy Brooks cap apparently feeling well A very. Quiet eighteen under. seventh-place all by himself. There played some Good Golf Sergio Garcia was in the top five. So you look at the leaderboard, Love Lastly Gordon Story. Though is phenomenal. Well. Thank then the Gordon and He took his temporary membership on the PGA tour as well Yup let's. Yeah there were, and that's what I think. You're seeing with the restart. You're seeing some of these stories emerge. From, some of these guys that may not otherwise get the play because players testing positive for Kobe or their caddies tested positive for Kobe in pulling out or I mean we'll Gordon's case. It was because he wasn't going to get onto the PGA tour any other way because of how this year's plan out, and he's a Korn Ferry Guy, so the Korn ferry guys member. There's no core I playoffs this year, right? It's pretty much. We're holding in place. And he finished his t three at seventeen under with. News! Story, that exactly but W- for we'll Gordon if he had to finish in a two way tie for third or better, and that's what happened, so that gave him enough. Of Potential fedexcup points now he gets temporary membership which he's taken now. He has unlimited sponsor's exemptions which he can take. The top ten got him in this week to the rocket mortgage, so he didn't have to use a sponsor exemption into that I. Mean it's just stories like this are part of the cool things that are really coming out of. How we're now. Navigating through this new covid world that we're living in I thought it was wild to with the commissioner, saying which is going to have to learn how to live with it, which is like Whoa. Didn't early. Expect that from him, but he's right. He's the first one to say it in a way that you're like you know what. This dudes right like it's not going anywhere. You Gotta learn to live with it. You innocent I mean I. don't I don't necessarily know that we can say it's not going anywhere. Because so many places are trying to find a vaccine. Yes, but like there's a vaccine for the flu in that comes back every year. Well, that's because there's different strains of the flue so the. Range of Kobe in Corona viruses, and this is a new strain. Apply, it's novel yeah. I don't know if I call it now. I call it special. Not In a good way, but yeah I. Mean it's just. It is wild. Kinda how things are playing out now. I think it was great that Chase Kepco did what he did, even though it turns out that. He didn't ever have the virus. I think it's I, understand what the tour is doing as far as safety protocols and stuff, the the one thing that is still a little unclear is. False positives, yes. That's the one thing where. I feel I understand. You always want to err on the side of caution. Guy Who test negative on Monday. Test positive on Wednesday. Morning and then test negative again Wednesday afternoon. Red Flags have to go up. Yeah. Wait which which is. Will they did go up and that's why it's just better for them. Not Ten days. No matter what regard regardless I don't think we're in a in a position right now until the science in the medication catches up to where you need to take a chance on this right now, there's GonNa. Be another tournament. There's GonNa. Be another season. The PGA take pride in the fact that you've been the first to come back during the pandemic and even cancel event since you restarted even with positive tests within your tour. It wild to that. So of the five players. that. Tested positive. Only well I shouldn't say only three of them were actually on site. At the tournament already when they so like Nick Watney tested positive on Friday. Because Harris English tested positive when he arrived the arrived. That was what today, yes, so Dylan Fragility Roy deliver for Telly and Matt Wallace are the other two who tested positive while they were at the tournament, and by the way for Tilles coming off the top ten a couple of weeks ago at our BC yeah, and so he's now shut it down again and now what needs ten days are up. Look you know because we united talked about this on sportscenter. Today Tuesday and. We continue to see this week in and week out. They're going to be positive tests they. They're not going to be able to hydro that but. With all of these leagues trying to figure out protocol, etc.. I applaud the PGA for not panicking. And continuing business as usual, and it's GonNa Cause them a Brooks Koepka plane. If the travelers, it's GonNa. Do these Jason Days playing by themselves type situations there are going to be moved and withdraws. They're going to happen on the fly, but at least the tournament is still going forward to give us. Some of the storyline diversity touched on I give the tour a hundred percent credit of. Everything that they're doing. To, try and keep people as safe as it is possible to keep them. I love the fact that they're flexible enough to change the protocol and say you know what coach is now. You gotta be inside the bubble. You gotta get tested. You know if you're going to be on the driving range, I love the fact that they switched it up and then told players. You know what that's it until that test comes back negative. You're not even allowed on property. Like I love the Fan. I think it's a really cool because if you think about. A lot of people forget our his golf's history. As far as television and t times. I love the fact that the tour says you know when Jason Day goes. I'm not feeling. One hundred percent I need to go get tested and he gets tested and goes. I WANNA. Miss my tee time and the tour goes all right. Cool. We'll just the tetons. You're playing by yourself. Yep, comes back that he's negative. People forget that the way that T- times work now. That's only very recent Gov history that they started doing it that way. Where the leaders teed off at the same time, and they were in the last group and everything was according to where your score was. It didn't use the be like that. It didn't used to be like that at all. It wasn't until TV really started going. If they go wait a minute, maybe we should put the guys who are needed because it back in the day was guys. Hey I'm GONNA tee off at this time with sewing so all right cool and that was kind of patchwork. Quilt and now. The tour, there's no rule. There's no rule on a PGA tour to says these guys have to off at this time. You want a guy to go by himself. There's no rule about that. Do what you gotTA. Do and I think he needs extenuating circumstances. It's great that the tour is actually being flexible enough to go. We're going to do what we gotta do. So we can have golf being played and I hope at the end of this when we get back to some type of normalcy. The Jay Monahan gets the credit. He deserves it because golf. You and I love it a lot of people that love it were around the game. We play the game. We're embedded in it, but for those who aren't and they're just focusing on baseball, NBA NFL and college football. Monahan is not a big name and the Commissioner sportsworld outside of his golf bubble bought to be the first and successfully put on live TV now for the last month. Keep applauding this guy because they continuously adapt perfectly to give us live sports drama watch. On the other thing that that Jay. Doesn't get enough credit for is that he was the pillar. Far As bringing all of these other entities together to make this schedule work. So, he was the he was. I guess the lighthouse the beacon to go. Okay look so if the masters wants to to have their tournament, we're still going to have the PG. Ain't going to have the US Open Right. It was the PGA tour. Who had take other tournaments ago? Hey, listen everybody. Here's how we need to do this. In order for everyone to be able to accomplish what needs to be conflict because people lost their tournament. People and other tournaments had to move so so in order for I mean. Other tournaments had the move and the PGA Championship. The PGA championship number one to move to me. There was a lot of talk that had to happen in Jay Monahan was crucial in that whole thing happening and now with this they had to move again out of the May spot, and so trying to get all of those tournaments I mean three majors that the PGA tour doesn't run. All trying to coordinate dates, so that PGA tour events then had to be moved. was all kinds of sponsors, and so that's the one thing that I think is easily lost. That shouldn't be and it is. Jay. Monahan, you know. Ads going to look like next year day. Monahan look like what every president looks like at the end of eight years. Yeah, like you remember how if you look at a picture what Obama look like going in and what all of a look like going out and then Clinton you nee everybody. All Man Look. Like. I'm. Let's get so. Let's get to work and by the tiny leave. delay this. An Ego I need. Go sit for a while. Just don't don't don't call me as my running joke with Ashley I'd say like Greg A TWO-TERM PRESIDENT! That's a young looking. You know but it and what? What is history through the President's office? They always treat them. You give time I bet. I'm being serious. You're like when history looks at twenty twenty, which has been by far the worst year of ever experienced in my life. History look back at some of these sports commissioners of what they did. Bring us back live sports. And I think Monahan has got to be. Up at the top absolutely. Absolutely Steve especially with how we started. You know with everyone else talking about being in a bubble and whatnot the one thing about the tour. What the PGA tour has had to have done in order to to get started again. I wouldn't call it a bubble. It was more like a wiffle ball. But that's what they had to do. In order to make sure that we're back playing, it was. It's never easy to beat a Guinea pig when it comes to doing stuff with this amount of people, and so it was a little bit different than what Nascar had to do. And even what you have see an Ma had to do so you know that's as much. I guess as much grief, and as a hard time as I'll give the PGA tour pointing out where I see their mistakes are I, WanNa make sure that also the guy to stand up and beat the champion. Stunned saying. I know given the tours. It's a hard time. You are keeping us from getting people on the podcast, because about hard are them. It's not my fault, but look I've always been of this in life. I'm going to praise you as hard as I scold you. Here's what's funny about that, too. Because every players your best friend yet, you will get after them. But, that's where I will say guys like the reason that I'm able to do that is because guys like billy horror show how to third and even tiger. Those guys! That that's how I just tell the truth. This is what I saw. And this is how I see it and I'm also the first person. If I was wrong to go. Hey, like like what horse say said if I say something, I also got walk their driving range, and look you and I. Tell You I said. You. Know through is your culture had is going to bring. Yeah we at our come to Jesus moment, whatnot, and like with every I'll be the first to say like I I'm open book, and so if I'm wrong WANNA. Call me out and tell me I'm wrong and you're right. I'll be the first to go on TV and say that to be like. Hey, I just spoke to someone so I was wrong and here's where they corrected me. Like what? I don't mind doing that, you know, but. I think having that kind of relationship is important to know. I'm going to say what I need to say and what I see and from everything that all the information I gather and I'm always gonNA ask them to. And if I get it wrong I'll admit that I'm wrong, but if they do something that I don't think is right. I'm going to say that, but I'm not going to say it just to be mean and then when they're doing something right, I'll be like Yoda. Got This completely right? And this is why less folks no at the tour offers. That's how you feel. You know what it is though look, let's be honest. Everybody everybody loves being praised in. Nobody likes being criticized. You. Know what I mean like you don't like. Nobody likes it if they if they did something and they know Kinda well I'm doing the best that I can like I know you're doing the best that you can. Do. You still messed up like in body likes to have that happen. So you can get mad a little bit of like. All. Right. You know. That always happens when you get caught. And you thought you can get get away with something and they like, and you don't ever like the person who caught you know. But that's happened a bunch of times where if I say something funny about a Golfer and having a good time, then I'm the best friend for the next couple of days, but then if I got going sportscenter and say like Yo. Kinda messed up. But here's what happening by this, and that then like I got hold team people that won't talk to me for a while, but that's the nature of the business, but I think deep down inside you being beauty being quarantined right now. You don't have to want to walk Rangers yet, but see I want to. That's what killing me. It kills me that I wanna be out there because I think. See, I'll get in trouble with our own bosses. Golf with your boss. You can say. I'm saying though I'm talking about us as as a whole look we are. We are the worldwide leader. So because we're the worldwide leader, we need to lead and I think part of leading is serving. All sports were. We got big banner, says Serving All sports fans everywhere, and I think in order to do that the best way to do it. The best information that we get is not just over the phone, but. It's one. We're sitting there looking at somebody's face or watching what they're doing. and. I think that's important and so I'm going to fight I'm a fight to do that now. The flip side of that and this is where I also give all our bosses a past to is. There like the tour safety number, one. Right Safety. No, he wanted. Yeah, you can't fault them for that. Not, and that's why. I don't I. Don't fault them at all. It's like I'm the one screaming. Holland Delay Hey man. I'LL! I'll go right now and they're like. Calm down there crazy. Okay I know you're ready to go just screaming, hollering down the hallway or onto an airplane, but it's like we don't necessarily want you to take that risk because we'd rather. I love the fact that they're looking out for me going. We'd rather have you not be sick and be good to go for three years. Then run out there. Do one great report, and then be sick and down for a year. Let's get the regular things on the word. Great report second of all. They could easy man. Look, I do for a bedsheet man you ain't. Living. Lightning. Collins stop getting mileage and hotel points. And our per diem just went through the roof. Let's put him on this shelf. Get this thing back up and running when we can. Good thing in a bad thing about living on a golf course. Are you prepared? To Yeah because everyone thinks the tournament she lives matter what yeah, and now that there's no sign or anything or like you were saying no bleachers. That is a cool thing seeing these guys I can't understand. How in the hell how is it that you are not transformed now into a fan of there, not being? Fans on the course with everything now that we're hearing. Did you yard Greg? Chalmers in an Poulter? When I say the hearing. Activated gluts I. Don't care who you are farts funny. I'll care like. Don't tell you can't laugh when Greg chalmers the tee shot on the first t and Ian Poulter. Sounds like something breaks loose inside of him. Not even volume, but length of. Lance and affected chalmers Blaine and I'm telling you if there are hands on the first t, you never hear that and then of. You're right. No fans so we can hear that well. That's sort of yeah, but still like that's what that's part of the fun of this kind of stuff. And then the talk to port chalmers walking out the t when he was like I thought those were supposed to be silent. Poultry was taken. We were texting back and forth laughing about the fact it. Chalmers was getting blamed for it. You know even though on, even though on on Social Media Tytler Stephen put out like. A digital Poulton? Did you step on a barking for these duck or somebody else was like? The cromwell barking frogs are out like that. was that after Texas Poulton to be on the hot or was that like? Now I'm still waiting for your brooks kept good move so whatever? I'll get I'll get. I'll get poultry as soon as you get kept because he's out, hit me back. I don't know why I know. I can't get one phony well. You know what it is now here's. I will give out a little inside information on. Why I think, too. It's it's it's difficult. Is, because because the way that the protocols are changing, and because you know in three weeks, five guys. Five players in two caddies did have positive tests. I think players are very now apprehensive. To talk about. Anything because they're afraid. The whole subject is GonNa be. Kovin. And, so it's like you know trying to let people. That's the other reason why. The announced a golf tournament in front of people. Is Important is because you know. I know, of course we're going to touch on Covy, but that's it just touches like. That's all we need. Because there's golf being played on the golf course. So being able to talk to golfers about golf that's happening and golf without fans, and whatever what they're going through is really important and so. Being able to try and do that is much easier when you're standing with somebody then. In we gotTA agent in I mean we got a super agent which is awesome, but you know how I feel about going through agents, the giant talk the. Worst so that my friends like yeah, this is oh my gosh, I don't. Do you have a paddock paper? Go, have a pad of. Something where you can right am I not reporter got my reporter's notepad that I had to make notes center this morning with you. Now I gotta by the way line drops because I. Know that you're going to I. Get me at the end of. That we those up in our first hit during the noon eastern sportscenter on Tuesday, the day that we're recording this with the golf course behind. You can't tell trees, but this leaves green in his second live hit you. You look like you were doing it in front of a hotel bedsheet. It's is the curtains in my bedroom and I had to go inside for the second hit because there were thunderstorms all around some getting all these lightning alerts in my where I use the spot to do outside hit is close to the bird feeder, which is a metal, seven foot pole, or as I like to call it the lightning Rod. Do Know How popular weed beef you got hit by lightning on live TV. You say we can't. BE POPULAR IF I'm dead. Or I, don't WanNa. I don't WANNA be popular. Because every time I walk into a room, it smells like Bacon and it's me. Have you ever talked to people or heard? People who've been hit by lightening or like like they owe it messes you up for ever like so as a guy who caddied in carried fourteen lightning rods around for a couple of years, a bunch of years less. The one thing I don't mess with is like one when lightning is in the area, Ya know. Right I'm glad you made it all about you and not us on sportscenter. I'm glad all you're thinking about is. Do you know what my ratings would be? If you blew up during our segment tends to be your mo here. We go lying low. We didn't pick last week because. We we you did not pick last week I. We'll let them carry you inherited picks. So we got to go back a week to our heritage. As I need you to add up the following scores. O.`Neil determine who pick them better at our heritage, Jeez. Though is are gonNA. J. T. posted seventeen, hundred eighty minus seventeen scroll way dental leaderboard to your next Guy Harry Higgs. Nine under and Matt Kuchar. Scroll and find cooter. Even make the cut I. Don't think so now. Matt Kuchar Eleven under that okay. Yeah he did. Okay, Lebanon. Week Man Hilton Head with no wind. These guys are proven that. Deal with the time off. They weren't just sitting home playing video games now. Working they have money games going on between one another, and so they show up to these courses, and there's no win, and it's game over like A. Harbour town that usually has twenty to thirty mile. An hour winds in April and the winning scores eight to twelve under those dudes just tore the roof off. So I believe you're combined. Score was what thirty seven hundred erect. Here we go. Tony Female. For. A while was in contention. Yeah, no! I love jt post a big by the Israeli good, thank you. That must have made some money. What if he now do? Okay feed out twelve under. Right fi now's modest well. Had Decade Matsuyama. Again no win this where all my theories went out the window because there was no wind will and you got me. I can tell you anders shaw flee. My next pick was five hundred of scored by him twice. You may have got me. Did you get me? By and then miss cut clus to so Royd me minus twelve plus to a minus five so. If teen under yeah, minus fifteen so only beat you by minus twenty to. Write. It. down. So minus thirty seven to minus fifteen. That was your team versus my team. That's that's A. that's a big win for you right now I would just advise that you might WanNa call. A search party right now. 'CAUSE when he'll ask Jesus missing. So now you will I will give you credit on this. Your featured group beat my feature group that we forgive. Draft GINGAS better, but you're not really into that Nah. If I'M GONNA GAMBLE AIN'T GONNA do a golf speaking of which the hangover was on again yesterday Never Galley at that movie. It's very rare that a comedy can easily slide itself inside the top five all time and that movie. Just Dumpster fired into the top five of all time when it came out. And even though were pretty solid. You know what held me back on on the hangover. The first time I saw it. I wanted to see their night out. Instead of just the photos. Year right when they did the cheers on my car about to go. We're about to see a montage debauchery before the actual hangover set into the first time, but then after I watched like it's one of the greatest ever and I had I had that moment yesterday afternoon I was watching the classic and I had that. Ono Moment this morning? So yesterday. I'm hanging around. Get some stuff done and ocean's eleven comes on. which is amazing, and then I see this morning Carl, Reiner died. When I was getting ready to this unbelievable car Ryan Up, just watch him and Ocean's eleven yesterday as you saw and then today he passes away the comedic legend you. Look man? Twenty twenty needs a Mulligan or you know. What like were you were talking earlier in the podcast about history and how history books will look. I'm cool if we just the whole damn here. Let's just. You know, let's just say this. This twenty twenty is like man whatever happened in We just raised in from the consciousness so. Yeah. I'd so pick time. For this week. We will give years our doing it. I think that we should amend the horse category because I believe that we're getting a little confused. And the other thing the house they're going to be a horse for his course has only been played. Now. It's never been a horse. For course it's been like among the favorite courses like the power players, but that's GonNa Change every week, so actually she. We just do pick three guys combined under par. That's uncle with that. Okay, so let's do it. Let's the ultimate Matt into catty picks and then. I will continue to drag kings line of even though caddy wants nothing to do with it, but whether it did help you last week them. Yeah, we'll yeah, we'll we'll. We'll do they let you play along. Did you one last week the last time you and I both did picks. You get first pick this week. For my first pick of the weakness week I will take. THEM WE HAVE BUBBA WATSON? BUBBA Watson. Is CADDY'S I pick. This week. I will take. Victor Hofland. Good more. Right now down. In. Number two I will take Patrick read. Talk dirty to your something. You love. Take Pat. Greasy. Call you in the morning. I'll know a what a Patrick finished at this tournament last year well. I'll just the top five whatever. The SHAMBO. I knew you were going to pick in A. Final Pick for the candy. Trying to think if I should take a flyer like I. Think. We should I think we should take I think we should always take a flyer. Okay, so let's let's do three picks on a flyer. Three picks and apply okay ready with my third pick. I'll take. Rafa Cabrera Bill He's been playing nine hundred travelers. He's kind of just been hanging out exactly like he's one of those. Is close and needs that boom moment, and so it's like little steps little steps little steps I would always snag him a lot and draftkings. Yeah! He's usually got good value behind him. He Does I. Ricky, Fowler. Oh really okay. See Nolan for the sponsor. Los See the thing like Ricky's. My boy and I love him to death but man. Anytime like the sponsor thing is. This year because a Kobe. Yeah that's true. You're not going to have to do nearly as much. Definitely not shaking hands. and. You Ain't going to no parties so actually, Rick. You might might be a pretty solid pick. I two WHO's your flyer. Ma Flyer will be. See, I don't. He doesn't count as a fly because he's too well known anyone who was going to be. But Kim, but I can't fly can't be a guy. Won The players Championship Ben Flyer? JT posting last week. That was a flyer. Yeah, that was a fly. Here. I don't know. would. Would you consider Kyle. Stanley a flyer, absolutely really okay all right then. I'll take costs. You don't get cost Stanley of Flyer to know who you do. Well I mean Kyle did finish second in in. I mean he's got he's got some tour wins I sometimes I take. The flyers, guys who? Either haven't won or haven't won. Big Big events where like Kyra, one phoenix you know was in contention at the players one time you know so like this dude. Is is a known entity in a sense. Right my flyer. Sunjay in. And that's a good good. Fights Recap caddies roster for the week. So what I will do? Is here we're going to build a draft. Kings team around our rosters, okay. Now that that's eight you'll get six, and then because you one last week will automatically take. Financially will actually under three and three. We'll okay. If I could afford it okay I the recap. The picks catty as Bubba Watson. Patrick read. Rafeh. Is Sleeper Kyle Stanley. Maddie's picks Victor Hobson. Bryson the Shambo Rickie Fowler the flyers Sunjay Him. All right so for draftkings to Shambo. Is Eleven thousand, seven, hundred, expensive, very expensive. As your fault, Bubba Watson. Nine thousand two hundred. So now we've got money problem. and. We got with two dudes. 'CAUSE HOBGOBLINS ten thousand. Why are you such why you gotta be so high in? Maxwell? Come hang out TJ Max. You get really good stuff a you ain't got to pay. Those prices are bad a Nordstrom guy. Yes, he hit me. I got TJ Max. I got the same norstrom stuff half the price of the year old. That's all it's a year older I'd away. They're TJ. Maxx Patrick ten, thousand, five, five hundred. We can't afford him either. It's. Going are barrier. Rafa I got one high maintenance chick. Our Boy Rob. You can always get him at all navy. That's what I'm saying like. He's on the clearance rack. Day Max and you like Yo, this was these fairways and Greens. There was only one hundred eighty five dollars, and I'm getting for seventeen dollars and forty seven cents. Actually robbed his eighty one hundred. That's not okay so in Bari, neither well he ain't on the clearance rack. Then someone some figured it out. So Kyle Stan. He's GonNa. Have to get in. Was Sung Gye now. Dude Sungai is up at dude. He's at ninety eight hundred. That's because this dude never takes a week off. That's why he. You'll take a Wego. We have to feel two more spots at sixty nine hundred each. So here your options as we throw away money, he Sam Berns. Ryan Armor. sung-yeol no patent Kosire. Charles. Schwartz old, or you know what I say. We boot to Shambo. He's too expensive, okay? So we boot the Shambo then debt brings, read back in. Let's see, let's see Patty read in. Now, we could spend seventy five hundred member last two players which put us in the category of Scott stallings. Ramlet. Steward. Rogers we can get Keegan at seventy three hundred. And stallings I like a lot. Right, so it's done. Lanes. That we have seventy six hundred span which gets us McNeil Lear Herald Varner. Or we can still do Kagan. I would say either H v three or Keegan and I would probably leaning. Towards Age V. Three. Okay, let's. He's playing with bubble in that charity thing on Wednesday at one o'clock. So they're gonNA play. Nine holes have some fun, so he'll be like in a good mood. From talking that smack all right so to wrap it up matting into official draft King's entry Rafa Cabrera. Baeau Eighty one hundred Patrick read ten thousand five hundred stallings, seventy, five, hundred Stanley seventy, one, hundred Boerner seventy, six hundred, Bubba, ninety, two hundred, so we've got your entire team on their. Your entire rosters on here? If we win all you re lose, it's all you I don't have one in my wears on it. By again. So, you go ahead and enjoy Noyce germ nordstroms, you getting one pair of socks, and for the same price I'm getting seven fits. Take Victor Hobbling instead of. Patrick read. What. He was my favourite like he was my okay. All right I'm concede that that's number one. All right all right. That's fair enough. Yes, committed. When. Everybody wins money. Thank you for supporting us. And finally because it was a user generated question, we always answer user generated questions. They wanted US quickly to discuss Phil Mickelson's fashion this last week. Sunglasses and the joggers. I'm a huge fan of the joggers I own some Grayson apparel the joggers. Really Golfing, yes. Yeah I like I. As a short guy. This never bad to have like tight ankle things a lot and yeah, you know now that fills doing it more people are going to watch no I. Don't think so. What do you think sunglass like is the like nine hundred eighty five top gun. Look good. I think for him. It works I. Don't think everyone can pull off the aviators. You know I think. and. I don't mean it. Looks good on you though like I mean it in that way I mean it like. He has he has the shape face that can pull off the aviators. And I've been looking everywhere to find out. What they are like who makes them? And I I know they're not Rayban. They're not Oakley they're not now jims. They're not like there must be some, but by the way Oakley Maui. Jim Ray band feel free to send us some of your best aviators and we'll test them out for you. Bro You're already know. My sunglass thing is like my hat problem. House Ryan from Oakley. We've gotta hit him off again days. Awesome! He's awesome. He's I was asking he's one of the guys I mean. I was trying to find out from. You know doing all kinds of extensive research after the personal twitter put that question to us, I did trying to kind of research to find out what kind of glasses these are and so. So Ryan from Oakley's one of the guys I hit up and was like. Hey, man I. Know these aren't yours? Because they? The Oakley always has the logo on the side. No matter what and these didn't have that so I'm like what's the deal? Do you have you an even? He threw some suggestions out there and I could not find these things anywhere are. Like they're not fashioned like Tom Ford. Something like that Gatty Tom Ford's designer. You're not gonNA find it Tj. You. WanNa bet. Is just this that a one year two years. That's all. Get there, but it ends up there. You know what I'm saying, so yeah, that's fine I. Just I I think it's a good. Guys look good playing in sunglasses and fills one of those guys I didn't think I would like him playing in sunglasses I never liked up. Those are you wears like a really nice watch when he plays golf that I, don't get. A. Bubble got that watch for? A quarter of a billion dollars known as playing. I. Don't like the watch thing. You know my one of my pet peeves in all sports and especially the NFL. These dudes that insist on wearing their wedding ring when they play. Wha What's wrong? I don't understand. You know nowadays you can get wedding robbery the Ray. Yeah, why do you? Why do you need that on? To play like. Like what? I. See that look you. Give me bull. Then you just celebrate your ten year anniversary I did in the fact that I haven't lost Meyer original wedding ring, even she admits an upset light. That's a miracle on ice type up, so have you haven't lost it because you don't take it off very often I take it off the golf. I always taken off the Gulf. I don't play golf right. Golfer a job. Right if I did I would be wearing my wedding ring like you don't take. Yes, you would. Man You'd wear it on there I. Would you don't take your ring off the sports? Anybody like listen. There's a chance of a paper cut if I'm jump. But. I don't need my hands for my job, the talk with them. Okay, but that's the beauty of the rubber of wearing the rubber ring. Is that what you're wearing right now? Why the cool thing about the rubber one is because I was that way caddying I didn't like wearing it when I was J I. Don't fault, you work I. Agree, but now with the rubber ring. I can't wear it. 'CAUSE I. Don't have a a fear of getting caught on something and tearing the skin off my finger. What? Yes, what happened? You can't going back to caddy by the way. CADDY watch. My mom had to have emergency surgery, but she she's fine now. She's good to go man something. Go put a whole bunch of stuff on social media and stuff, too. So that went out. The window was like even if I was getting a call, I will do no, do it. I, couldn't I okay, but is there a chance at county? Watch? Be going or now now I. Don't think so. I think now because of all the protocols that are in place I don't have to worry about it, but you know we also still never say never. If something happens, the problem is now if a caddy test positive the players. He's not gonNA play. You know and that we saw that Brooks Koepka where it's like look. He's got brooks his bubble and there's no way brooks is taken a local caddy that is there is no stinking way, and I'm worth some. You know what to a cool I'm cool with Dan. I'm cool with the fact. If they're aiming to do like that. You Really Trust on standby. That can just jump in and go like Sir. and. 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Golfy Would You Rathers

GOLF.com Podcast

38:46 min | 1 year ago

Golfy Would You Rathers

"Would you rather would you rather whole out from the fairway twice a year play any course in the world caddy for Tony Romo would you rather have the driver Yip's putter yes would you rather step up to the T- terrified to take the club away from the ball would you rather play thirty six holes Phil Mickelson ethnic him and me away less and I'm not getting any better at the moment no we as a team are working to turn that around more details to follow all right into the Gulf universe this week someone dug up some you know embarrassing it was me I dug up my embarrassing golf complicated personal relationship with amateurism deciding you know I'm I'm probably not supposed to be professional gopher anymore I should just become an amateur again but what was probably the most unique part of my career was that I got kicked out of the NCAA for writing a book and I got kicked out one week before all right folks Sean Zack here across the table from me as always dylan to chair this is the drop zone got a big week of Korean Gulf Zone probably no I played some division three golf at Williams College was okay never particularly like stand out off with me we bring those kind of questions to podcast today but First Dylan you had your past transgressions brought note with the gray area pro for life but you know we've been talking about that we've been trying to formulate a plan because US Open qualifying only what like eight months inputs left and right this guy has earned some kind of weird popularity from all these This walking in Putz bit I mean look last year Justin Bieber lamb dunking on the NCAA and it was a pretty good example of you know the bureaucracy of the NC double a. asked my college golf career yeah I wrote last week a story about the time I got kicked out of the NCAA listeners of the drops my only ever appearance in the National Championship got reinstated about twelve hours beforehand did not go well for at that point on but this article which you can find on Gov dot com I've gotten like more feedback on this than almost anything ever written I are at his putting green at his home was imitating Kevin Na he's become like a weird golf cultural icon for this move and here he is part of it is this it was it was meant to just be my experience but it ended up sort of being just a giant alley past everyone just love slim the PGA Tour Kevin now won a playoff against Patrick Canley in vegas he made a triple bogey rallied from it he won with a par on the second playoff hole he was walking what's going on big week for Korean Gulf some good some bad we'll we'll break down what to make of the Biochem News as well as the Kevin Na but the culture of Las Vegas is definitely a world away from the Korean golf culture we saw their exemplified he's probably one of the more beloved pj to her players in Korea however earlier this year he was on a reality show is pretty bad in pretty dumb yeah people love to hate the NCAA love to hate him. You know what I made so much sense to me now because you have had such a you've had just this really I have not had the opposite reaction that's what you have pushed but maybe this is why I'm like this amateurs and I'm done I'm done don't shout out to like secret reference were hearing some whispers coming out about what he was talking about what did he say he said despite what you've been hearing about me the perception of the reality show didn't go very well I don't think he's feeling the love from Korea so he gave a shout essentially to the country and said thanks for sticking with me to that effect he's a Korean American so he has a lot of Korean fans as far as the PGA Tour Goes News Kevin now one in Vegas and later we'll dive into a bunch of would you rather 's people love that game would you rather would rather play golf with Dylan or which rather thirty starts here so the guys had serious success what Presidents Cup potential pick at this point I hope so I hope so but I don't I mean I don't last week in a different Korean golf story before we get into that I had one thought on playoffs because the playoff between these two brought up one of the things that I hate on the first playoff hole walking a must make Putt to have the whole with Patrick Kent Lake Keep The match going keep the playoff going I guess yes unfortunate for Kevin but hey yet to choose who you think will be a good player in Australia in early December what was the deal with Kavanagh's post tournament in Texas and now he's the walk ended joke around with Tiger guy which is you know a big time upgrades also sneakily one what three times in his last three going to be there at the C. J. Cup I hope to see you all there he was very emotional there's there's lot behind this story he doesn't really seem to want to get into it but steph things of people walk down the tenth fairway and they would circle around the tenth and some of them would even go to the eleventh because there is going to be a playoff on these holes probably what is your preferred playoff format you don't go back to eighteen okay you go somewhere else and you just have a random order and probably it's like okay let's a young make a little loop anything anything to keep you from playing the same shots Interro to see who just happens to hit it closest happens to have the luck it again okay now you've tied twice will let you play the seventeenth but if you tiga you're going right to the eighteenth hole does this and see this all over the place if anything I am pro to aggregate the wait a minute big fan of what the USDA did with that being US J. Guy suspended for doing so three years by the Korean PGA outrage occurred in America on the Internet as often happens America knows best he won flicked off a fan flipped them the bird essentially says f you with his hands and in in the midst of winning gets must about professional golf in it's not pace of play these are two very very slow players and then it's it's playoffs that repeatedly just play the eighteenth hole three captains pixel he made tigers pregnant shoes himself there's the US Open champion Gary Woodland there's Chevy who's playing the best golf is life this year it's probably that's a mentality a lot of us have so we were like holy cow three years that's insane this doesn't deserve any suspension Brandel Chablis is looking up felony charges This isn't America well here's the thing we don't understand how to make sense of this we've had Emiliano Grillo flipping huge huge assets to society the Korean PGA is saying we are above needing a or leading money that are less than three three years sentence this is how America works when it comes to deciding what is okay and what is not okay when I don't like only thing when you talk about Kevin Nine what happened him yesterday well look you see Guy Kevin now who lives in Las Vegas so he wanted his what current hometown yesterday he has ascended to a new level because Kevin was like the driver Yip's guy he was the slow play guy he was the guy that made fifteen on one hole in off the whole time making Tommy fleetwood doing the masters at the masters you've got guys flipping birds all over the place we see it in baseball is that as always cast down that America knows best South Korean culture is far too conservative I've just amazed that everyone is so shocked at this we got our NBA players fighting stance. Although I guess that did merit a pretty long suspension but even still Ron R. test was suspended for one season yeah I'm just happy with the results of okay if you make a bogey on the first of all you can make up for it you can get really aggressive make Birdie and flipped flip the switch a little bit no and he got in a legitimate Malay I think it's because we treat athletes and popular athletes as these huge here's a camera flick in his backswing he looks straight at a key at the fan and essentially says f you down to transgressions of famous people who you love famous people what does it mean when you flick someone off what are you saying you're saying than where we probably hold our athletes to a lower standard in our celebrities in general were so forgiving selectively forgiving at least it seems like they may hold Bio Kim B. O. Kim I'm not sure how you say it to a higher standard than your traditional city a guy taking a picture or talking during his swing so you don't really see this sort of outburst at fans in Golf generally go back to fourteen and then fifteen and then sixteen you'd make some room to get eighteen or a lot of course we'll have like ten near eighteen you can lease go ten than eighteen or ten seventeen Zarrella like demean a people and a specific culture because it's different and more conservative and more I playoff on the PGA tour forever right yeah but like one of the best things about what Augusta national used to have is that you'd have players finish on eighteen and then you'd have these threats over and over so they just played the eighteenth and regulation right that's the last hole they played and now you're gonNA play it again and then when you tie you're gonNA play you'd be suspended by the PGA tour in some vein right there will be a huge fine no he would be yeah I mean it would be a massive mess regulated or illegal in South Korea Those are three things that flourish here in America Oh yeah it's a different world backbone of society yeah but at the same time you look at cavenaugh he's speaking out against it he said it was a ridiculous punishment his Caddie Kenny harms was wearing a free are stringent than we live by here in the United States gambling pornography and government lobbying are three different things that are highly it falls on a up a Putt that is made from twenty feet are you still pro sudden death theory suggesting to three hole loops I am pro sudden death I'm not sure you see it from golfers really at all except like directed themselves golfers get frustrated but not in the same way I'm not sure exactly why that is hang Fu yes can you imagine Roy mcelroy doing this. Can you imagine Roy mcelroy at coming on the tour championship hitting tee shot more like you know Justin Thomas kicking a fan out for yelling at his ball to get in the bunker or you know tiger woods doing some exasperated staredown of some work in sports landscape is with something crazy like this now the American equivalents of this you know with the exception of guys flipping off the whole spitting in the cup stuff like that it's people were taking up skirt photos win their cellphones. When camera phones became a very popular thing yeah and so Biochem hat do here they are but but Kevin having that connection back to Korea I can trust him and and listen to him in the top thirty so let's continue the silliness with a bunch of would you rather silly they're dead serious well you play this with friends Lisa Year every year as long as you lived or would you rather have one career hole-in-one never to wow so exactly one you've prepared you don't know what I've prepared I will kick us off hit me with it would you rather whole out from the fairway honor to be out here on tour entertaining people this is not an entertainment project as much as it might be an America that's at least part of it well so maybe this is what you're getting at but yeah I just think that the takeaway from this needs to be America's different from a lot of places in South Korea is different from a lot of places but we can't mm-hmm as a voice and also get to dive into the laws of South Korea a little bit more because the reason this all happened is because you cannot silence a law basically regulating manufacturing companies of phones saying you cannot silence these things the camera sound is the deal because think about that how often do you hear about the Korean PGA yeah never know we never hear this is you know one of the ways they could actually crack through to the the catch is that the whole in one it could be on any par-three in the world of your choosing who he men corner could be number seven at pebble you can turn into a drinking game you can talk about anything would you rather do this would you rather do that we've come up with a bunch of hopefully brilliant Gulf ones I don't know what beach it could be on the postage stamp could be at Saint Andrews number eleven could be an any par-three in the world of your choosing while would it's October the it's not the major season there's not a lot that's really we've gotten zero top thirty players playing this week PGA tour not a single player you're not even a big Augusta guy so I'm actually surprised that that would be your one that is the most popular par-three in the world who has aced it win I think you should be able to hit different shots Petra Kelly is playing the same exact shot into that green three times in a row all right noted this is what the anyways back to Korean Gulf culture yes biochem it's kind of all news now a Korean player biochem during event that like three would would this also them that's more would you rather tremble over every you know short medium length Putt trying to think about what would be worse for your score because I think I can nace but no aces I mean still gladly happily double holdout guy per year are legend status and there's a catch and talking more about Kevin Ah if you know more details come out about all that he was referencing so wild week in engulf culture which is great even know it is the ultimate bragging right in the entire games history it's funny I can't picture a single ace there I mean I I've watched I know wooded clubs can't do it can't do it as three yards four sixty C C not for me it would be more difficult for me to have confidence as a Golfer wants your iphone cameras over there it's law it's impossible due to there's no silence function privacy issues yeah shall we say well you confidently go and play with strangers to just be happy like if if I had the gifts I think I would quit the game far quicker if I had the putter Yip's than if I had the driver off the tips I agree with you in the sense that like if terrified to take the club away from the ball or will this is just with driver just withdraw well off I mean come on we're talking off the tee we could probably include you become the par three and par three okay you can't just like ace the eighteen th at Augusta National I mean that the full day of Gulf wherever you wanted with Tiger Woods Donald trump and eric trump or would you rather play nine quick holes with grow wider and wider but if you get into serious stroke-play competition then God I dunno neither with the game stop playing it makes sense for these events that want to have everybody on the eighteenth hole but it's not entertaining and it and it really also doesn't do a whole lot to promote who should twenty wherever you play you're going to get ten rounds and twenty runs out twice wolf it's good for the score deuces some pretty good record come to grips with explaining to anyone I play with that you know what guys that's just can three iron off the tee for me today sorry just can't hit those big could sort of get away with yeah lagging it just somewhat close there and you can still on the putting green hips you know screwing around with the the claw just I'm done it yeah I've wanted to short whole guys gun at the pin there kind of interesting going to pin this year but he didn't need to he didn't the only thing is going to happen there's just these big names that have played in all these events before Tony fee noun rickie fowler that tigers probably going to choose them first and really there's only you know I think I would rather have the putting yips than the driver Yip's because once if the driver yes you can't even play you know you're not you're not in play off the one that not to Brag my current status one hole in one door number a basically be like whole out guy never would be next level I'm sticking with the double whole sick I am acing twelve hole at Augusta national I am telling that would be everyone yeah I think I'm asking the Talpiot I'm sticking with the double whole outs but that catch does have me thinking about it imagine knowing that you know twenty all right my first question for you would you rather have the driver Yip's or the putter would you rather step up to the t Sarah a fairly serious golfer but you just cannot pot I think that there's something there's some sort of wreckage there at the same time I think score wise -portant to everyone's privacy fascinating I mean this is this whole week has been an interesting look into Korean culture and I feel like by the time this podcast comes out we're going to be eh well hopefully you just pick him playing partners let's get the gifts this other thing no one wants to see you attempt to so you get into that that circle of friendship by they just once a winning Presence Cup captain no doubt no doubt because a looming Ryder Cup you don't even know who wins or would you rather be a winning Presidents Cup captain three times or a losing Ryder Cup captain back here next week well that's what partly the question here but I think rickie fowler is reaping the benefits of fame as opposed to reaping like the deter actors the worst parts of fame so it's gotta be Ricky High Popularity Hugely popular he he could run for anyway it none of it matters that's where I agree with you all right would you rather have the career of ricky dollars on the course five victories fourteen runners up seventy top ten's he ascended to a career best world ranking instead of five times sixteen runner up finishes ninety four top tens but he's never gotten higher than number fifteen in the world so comments Oh God one you tell me be the right club today to his victory three pairing fillon tiger it'd be a Ryder Cup captain but you know if you're talking popularity respect for you in the team room Presidents Cup is this amazing chance free to just get punched experiences it's really whose life would you choose outside of you know family relationships it sess pretty who's golf life would you take feels how else has been a presidents cup captain tiger woods before to his year here's the thing if you WANNA book late night show appearances then you want color or Charles Howell the third I'll give you some numbers to go with this Rickie Fowler number twenty one in career earnings he's made just under thirty eight million number four all right here's Charles L. number nineteen in career earnings so a little bit more is made about a million dollars more than ricky thirty nine million he's won three times you're at the Ryder Cup he was the guy who did that and he didn't stand down from it fifteen years later he's not standing down from you think he's glad this is basically you can have either of those careers nothing more won't link included yet but including their off the course you know pretty obvious does it yeah because let's just let's put it all out there I mean rickie fowler is the one who was dating the supermodel who is probably married or soon to be married to an Olympian his fame I don't think is any as impious pieces written about you about you know your great team room atmosphere they would help sutton though yeah what are what are Hal Sutton five most famous that happened over having not happened I think so th ask hey I'm glad I mean and look I'm glad it happened the thing about these captains visit me for office in Phoenix and win more in Jupiter especially if the if his constituents are under the age of lights notoriety or fame you're always hoping to be the Ryder Cup captain yes I do not remember what you've done the president's Cup captain after Fred Couples who the sixteen here's the counter to this Charles Hal is made forty million dollars he can walk down the street and get a sandwich how many people have recognized Charles Allen Ryder Cup captain getting e third by you'll Nicholson in the post round press conference or by Patrick reads mother-in-law on our facebook page in terms of report stated but anyway his fame is one hundred x and now normally I would hate fame I see your point I'm still going with ricky fowler because he ricky also because I'm a big fan of playing golf mangled that has some inherent benefits to him but then again Rookie has such fame that he with people that you didn't know yesterday ricky could get a teatime with pretty much anyone in the world yeah it's pretty accurate I think would you rather play thirty six holes full day of golf wherever you wanted with public in the last thirty years I can do whatever he wants to walk down the street and get a sandwich ricky could also do that okay he can't escape it like going to house parties I think what I'm saying be suffocating getting a sandwich here's the other thing he has to deal with these questions Tiger Woods Donald Trump and eric trump or would you play would you rather play nine quick holes with Phil Mickelson like the the speaking like as a journalist the opportunities of spending an entire day with trump on the go Anthony Kim and me Whoa Oh my gosh all right you could you could play thirty six I was with trump just throw the phone on record and but think about like the gambling nonsense that we could get into with Phil K. K.. I mean bill in me playing against you and for the stakes of AK you have to turn pro if you lose go back to the tour imagine as of best player to have never won a major all the time ricky when are you going to win a major ricky how about that Major Charles Hollier like man that guy finished in the top probably seven yeah so I'm getting a full basically sixteen or seventeen from fisa basically one whole ice which seems hours with this guy yeah so like the storytelling piece of me wants to take that one but more excited than Anthony Kim of course are like boundless you know I feel like I would get you know hired by the New York Times for being like Hey I spent ten ten again earns a blown away by it he's finished he is almost a hundred top tens in his career is one three times on the PG too that's a good one yeah thank you yeah I mean you it would be announced you'd be all over the blogs all over the news it would be good for your brand you could read a book about that Yeah you know an entire year just based off of this one opportunity and you know I could just slide in a couple of disguised questions about like Ukraine disguised mm-hmm the white whale and fill and fill my God n me well yeah spent plenty of time playing golf with you around boy see I think know what you're going to say but I think it'd be different would you rather this one is actually somewhat related would you rather wait any course in the world with the character fund cast of characters you could be getting you know brutal I'm probably going to play pebble who I'll I'll choose the course over the people for this one round I think that's the right choice well I hope you get some fun fellas to play with pebble here but can you imagine he gets he gets one every other whole from Phil I am going with Tiger and the trump's we would sustain traffic goals on Gulf Dot com that's that's where I come to grips with you know what I the people I wanna play with a maybe some other time so what is the one course that I would want as golf bets what's the what's the golf seem like over there in Ukraine oh man all right let's move on now before we get in any trouble up trump and tiger yeah wherever you want wherever you want man he at the old course content opportunities who'd come out of that that includes playing with a non five piece Golf Ball Oh wait so we're talking pre switch yeah oh for someone with different values see I'm I'm never going to choose the course over the people yeah even for one round random draw of people or would you rather play with any force them in the world of your choosing with a random draw of golf course this is for one you'd be dangerous could go out and shoot like eighty one and I betcha you're giving AK strokes for Sir yeah the guy's gotta be that that generic he's wearing knickers that guy and he's he's trying so hard he's got like the the Ben Hogan cab yeah yeah and be dressed like an idiot or look amazing in your presentation and play with equipment from the early two thousands number five handicap right yeah if you just never ever plays all right I'm stalling respectfully he's gotta be like let's as a two or three nations about it greatly influences whether I would wanNA talk about it at all or talk about it forever yeah yeah there's definitely big positive off gear it is who you play with his massive deal you know probably still underrated because you can you could go show up at the old course and play with them play what is it and could I stand three ranchos being on the T- with me right and I mean you could be getting a fun bunch of Bozo's we have we have a job and occupation that people love talking about and how they talk about it and how they asked okay you ready for your last one yeah all right would you rather play with the guy who is Sergio at bethpage in Zyppah Risks Gosta yeah probably will play Plan Valley at some point take aside Sir I will I know the person who's trying to change your swing you know what you

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Hour 1: Michael Collins joins

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 1: Michael Collins joins

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The caller was always triple eight say ESPN that's eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. The Stephen Smith show is being brought to you by my computer career dot EDU training for a better life, top straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. I gotta admit it. I got an eight minute. I did not see this coming in a million times. I did not see this coming. I did not see Tiger Woods winning the masters. I didn't see it. Now, we'll say this what a racket then Amelia. Then Amelia, caissons I have said if Tiger Woods is able to overcome that home. And when one major I believe he will catch Jack Nicklaus because I think that their biggest impediment is that I heard UIL. But once he gets over that. I heard oh, I think you'll be just fine thereafter. And as a result, he will catch and ultimately surpassed, Jack Nicklaus to officially be what we all ready know that he's the greatest golfer in the history of the sport. But that I hurdle is what I had sincere doubts that he'd be over to overcome. And not only the Tiger Woods win the masters. Not only did he do that shooting two hundred seventy yesterday in the final round, but he was under par every single day. In route to capturing the fifteenth career major of his career. Every single day. One of the things that I repeatedly said about Tiger Woods and upper speedily said about it throughout the years is this he'll be found not he could beat anybody one day, maybe even two, but the days of him being able to provide and display a sustained level of excellence over the course of four days is not something I believe he could do I didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. Whether it was ROY McElroy Jordan speed or Dustin Johnson, the list goes on and on. It was the competition was to steam too heavy and that combined with his physical ailments for different back surgeries combined with his emotional and mental illness that plagued him for the last decade. I was just of the belief firmly that yesterday was the day that would never be seen again in the career of Tiger Woods. My God was I wrong. And I can't be happier to be wrong largest gap between major wins. From this do Julius Boros with four thousand twenty six days to Hale Irwin and seventy from seventy nine to ninety four thousand eighteen days from Ben Crenshaw with four thousand eleven days from eighty four to ninety five Henry back in nineteen thirty seven to nine hundred forty eight Tigers fifth on that list largest gap between major wins within the US open in two thousand and eight to win a masters yesterday three thousand nine hundred and fifty four days. I who would have it. And just the thing about it. This was the beauty of it, man. Listen, I'm no golf aficionado. I watch as a fan, but am I an avid golf a hell? No, especially with Tiger Woods now being relevant for vast majority of time. Remember, this do was ranked eleven hundred and ninety nine years ago. And that was of the mindset that we never see tiger again. And then something happened. He walked into the final round of this master's would a two-shot deficit against Molinari Francesco Molinari. We gotta remember that tiger had never come back in a final round to win a major in his career. We have to remember that. And then something strange happened. On the twelfth. Mullahs. Nari hit it in a raise creek. Should it? Hit us out over the water. It did. But it rolled right back into what of him and Brooks kept up. What a specially mount on outing. Because you had a two-shot lead and used to rent it out, and you gave toggle was the opening any need and he capitalized. When he capitalised. Clean enough Paul with his four foot shot we had a tie score. And all of a sudden, you just saw it. Now, I know guys like my boy, max Kellerman and others who sit up there and tell you won't want to hear anything about it. Tim addiction. It's the sport a golf. Nobody's played defense against you. What's the big deal? Damn it. It is a big deal. This a mental component to competing in sports at a very high level that simply cannot be ignored. And when you feel dudes literally tugging Joe heels. Creeping up on you crawling on you. It makes you uncomfortable. It makes you nervous. It makes you go into records it either scares the living daylights out of you, and you panic and we'll beneath the pressure or you might get a little bit too bold and a bit too courageous. And move away from your poise and your conservative play, and your consistency. And all of those things that tiger wood did not do yesterday. That's the kind of stuff can apetit. And that's what KEPCO in Molinari did. And as a result of taking no chances we're both of their shots going into the creek. It was a perfect open. If ataka. That to be an even at twelve eleven under here. He comes. Thirteenth hole. He birdies fifteenth hole. He burning and that sat on six teen. I mean, what are you saying? What are you saying? Cody shot perfectly right at a whole. Let's the slope do the rest of the work ball rolls right near the Cup and MRs by inches ends up being a few feet away for an easy party. And there you had it buried on the thirteenth birdie on the fifteenth birdied on the sixteenth. He has the Lee he wasn't giving it up. And so now, we look at Tiger Woods, and we look at this, man. One of the US open before. He's won two masters now four times. Ozzy's wanna PGA British Open. He's done at all. This man is now captured his fifteenth career major win. Only. Jack Nicklaus has at AT. He's one. He's one this master's at age forty three only Jack nNcholas has done a better, basically at age forty six. He's got four Matthews. Jack Nicklaus ass. Bob. And this is where it gets very very too. Because now it begs the question and prompts us. All okay. What do we think is going to happen? Do we believe this is it for Taga? Hell no eight. And I will tell you what. Because now he's got the monkey off his back. The proverbial monkey off his back. And now, we all know what he's playing. He's trying to seek approval. He doesn't feel a need to apologize to the rest of the world. Like he owed. Everybody else that apology for his transgression. He ordered to his wife to his kids to as a moment that raised him. He knows the damn thing. And I said this to go shame Orleans. Same on all is out there. Who's co yourself golf lovers? They got so preoccupied with all of this other stuff going on his like, did you forgot to judge them strictly as a golfer? Shame on us all ears. Especially those that you live in glass houses throwing stones. And you know, what I mean by that? But I doubt grass. None of your damn business. Only thing that concerns me because his golfing is he healthy enough to play. And when he played which has a game. Game off the team has a mid range game. That's what I'm paying attention to. Whether you draw eight on what the hell are you doing? Did it work for you? That's what I care about give a damn about you other stuff. And now that he got all the way and all that's office back. And now that he's got that major championship again. Oh, look out look out. Now, it's about to be on. Because things are getting very very interesting because he's a see here's the thing. First of all Tiger Woods is huge. A monstrous figure in the world of sports. No question. Lebron congratulated him. Serena Williams congratulate now, let's goes on and on Kobe congratulated him except he deserves it. But here's where it gets the first of all golf to me has been saying the avid golfer out. There was always watch what most of us. Don't particularly care for golf when Tiger Woods ain't playing. This is the fact we watching every hole we watching the entire final round. We watching it on Thursday and Friday and Saturday to go on. We're not doing that. President Barack Obama congratulated and president. Donald Trump congratulate them the great, Jack Nicklaus. Congratulated him. I mean grant, congratulations all over the place. But let me tell you something real quick before. I get my man, Michael Collins, all who covered the mess. It's about a win doesn't outstanding job for us covering a masters, but I'll tell you this covering Gulf theory, by the way, but it tell you this. Here's what I personally love about this. You know, what I love? Tiger is back. I want to see what the rest of the dudes do about it. Now, all these cats that we've been talking about the speaks and Rory mcilroy of the world and the doctors of the world capital of the world. I mean even ruined their early but nanna Tigers back. I want to see how they respond to that challenge. And with that I bring on my buddy, my colleague here. ESPN again does an outstanding job covering the sport of golf us wasn't able to get in studio today for television or radio because a traveling issues. That's what's happening. And that's what happens when you come from Augusta. But that's all right talk about my man, Michael Collins is on the lot with golf analysts reported extraordinaire for ESPN. What's going on big time? How are you Bri preciado cheese so much man caso having no baggage and trying to get through Atlanta TSA, even at I would recheck and my my boarding pass didn't work. So they was like you gotta go back your calendar. And I go back to the I there's no chance of a make this flight. I was just lying forty minute. Can't let you through anything. And you know, I'm never going to be to do to pull the, you know, who I am. That's what I said was do you understand the position your boarding being right now? Like just forty you're looking at it right now. I love to help you. I just can't you gotta get that printed car right mature and make this work. I was sweating like Martha Stewart getting a stock tip running that airport spill their make it. But that being said mad as as you, and I know and have talked Tiger Woods on a lot of times for a few years. Now, I have I can honestly say this, and I love being able to say this. I have never been so happy about being so wrong about something. Because I believe that Tiger Woods could win tournaments again. But I did not believe that he was going to be able to win another major, partly because all them, do you talked about and one of the main reasons was the dude that he stared down all Sunday like. The fact that Molinari, and I even put it out there when the Twitter was going on molinar was like a cyborg. I mean for the first eleven holes this dude could not miss whatsoever. And the analogy I used about Francesco all it was this watching him play golf is like watching the two thousand five San Antonio Spurs. Yes. They are. Great. It's great basketball. Don't get him. It's awesome fundamentals. It's awesome. But if it exciting to watch you get jacked up with the hey man, the Spurs playing member back, then it was like, yo Tim don't get man. No nobly like Tony Parker, y'all wanna watch him. Not as doing. I'm gonna go get my tooth pool with no novacaine. I'm gonna do that. Let me ask you this. I made I made I made the mistake early because I talk about was having four we've got five green jacket, Jack Nicklaus at six. So he's one of him in that regard. Okay. And obviously when you look at KEPCO and how and how he struggled as of late at least a little bit. Milder Nari obviously, hit the hit the shot in the water, etc. Talk to me about what you saw from those guys again, I don't wanna call it Pedic. But I think it's a different thing where you feel tiger coming up the rear and most of these guys now known that feeling since it's been such a long time. How do you believe this is going to affect the game of golf now that tiger is back in the mix? Like this. You know, it's funny that you said that man because you have to remember last year at the open championship for a second. Tiger had to leave man. Tiger had the lead of the golf tournament and Molinari's thirty down. And if you remember to then what was the tournament that was after the open the PGA championship and tiger was charging on Sunday. You know, who didn't blink Brooks kept going. So it's hard to say, I I you know, what what is great about. What happened is that just the fact of you asking that question is gonna bring so much anticipation to the next major which is at best page. It's the PGA championship. It's in New York, just outside New York City. I mean, and and he's won there before. So it's like this the opportunity. For for us to find. We're gonna find out simple as that. We're gonna find out. I don't know that these youngsters that are up there. Now, like, Dustin Johnson and Brooks Kapka, you know, Jordan speed has not been playing on that good. And I was getting bring that I wanted to know why? But you got a guy like Jon Rahm who's playing some great gum to. And you know, he also took tiger down in the Ryder Cup. Like, I'm gonna be anxious to see what these do do at the next major championship. 'cause that's what it's gonna take for these young guys. Like, even these units. They're gonna look at this masters when when when the this week is over those are going to look back at this major, and they're gonna be like, yeah. That was nice to tell you about. But you know, all the stars align I missed a couple brochures gonna be I had a chance to to time and go into a playoff. But I missed the putt on eighteen. So if he puts himself in that position, again does he missed that putt? I don't know we're gonna find out though. So that's. It's gonna be interesting to see if this Tiger Woods can be the old Tiger Woods. 'cause if you remember like that time it was back in two thousand two thousand seven even two thousand nine and a little bit of two thousand thirteen he wasn't friends with any of these do. No it wasn't. He's he's actually friends who Ricky Siler and just in time. And like those was down south for he plays golf with Brooks. And dusting them do down there like he never did that before. So knowing that this friendly target would can also now put the hammer on them. It's gonna be interesting to see how they react when they're in the when they're in the group with him because the only guys that was with tiger on Sunday was Tony fee now who had never wanted major before. And Molinari's who was the first to hit that shot on twelve when no one felt the wind, which I think helped Tiger Woods. But then Molinaro just talking about crashing and burning. What he did on that fire was terrible. And I guess what I'm asking is this tiger shot of minus two in the final. Day. Okay. Right. Had you had Johnson kept goes on. It's too as well Johnson was a minus for who's a chef Li. I mean, he was a minus four as well play chocolate. Yes. So you look at these guys. I I'm trying to remember the pronunciation that has got Tony for now or whatever I mean. His shot to each his shot. An even par. I'm looking at it from this perspective Tiger Woods to me one. Because those guys lost to it wasn't just what he did. It was what they did it or what guys did it do over the course of four days. So I guess what I'm asking you is what you saw from. Tiger as wondrous as the ultimate accomplishment was you've been watching Tiger Woods throughout his career. Where does this performance of his just as him as an individual rank up there with some of the great performances you saw him put forth before? I also think when it comes to Tiger Woods, the reason that this is the greatest that we've seen other than other than two thousand Tiger Woods in two thousand when he won the US open at Pebble Beach t beat the game. He didn't be people. He beat the game of golf, and I don't think we'll ever see anything like that ever again where he won by fifteen shots was the only do it under par comparative. I mean, it was it was just stupid. What he did it Pebble Beach, which we're going back to again this year other than that performance in two thousand this is the greatest thing we've ever seen from Tiger Woods because of all the baggage that he brought with him. That was what was so impressive. You cannot think that there wasn't pieces of all the shattered. I guess memories of stuff that has happened to Tiger Woods since two thousand nine and two thousand eight two thousand nine I'm saying when he lost the white Yang at the PGA championship. And that never had anybody staring down to beat him like that before ever. So all the baggage that came along with all the personal stuff. The losing the major that way even though he won five times in two thousand thirteen what does tiger talking about this the majors that matter? So to have him come back from eighteen months of saying, I don't know that I'm ever gonna play golf again. Like there was that time. We're Tigers said that he said out loud. I don't know if I'm ever gonna play golf again. And booted me when I tell you right, everybody in the Gulf where out 'cause we all know. Tech it all just move the needle Tigers the needle the stand in the shipping crate, the damn thing came in the thought of him not being around was was crazy and go from that to now winning the masters and their hopes that he had with both Charlie and then his son and his and his daughter saying after that on nobody that didn't have tears rolling down. There is when you ask what just performance, man. Here's what it meant Sunday night. When I was cleaning out my stuff in that media center, and I'm leaving. And I see a whole bunch of brothers that was working there the whole week. You know, every all the brothers that are they're taking care of like, the attendance and everything in the media center. You know, what them do say when I was walking out. It was like, you know, we did it again. They said, we we, you know, are hard that is for me to say that without getting crazy emotional right knowing that that's what that win meant not just him. But to everybody watching that and at that place. Right. He did. Ninety seven for people. And now he did it again in two thousand nineteen and I don't know how you going to match that of any. Well, you say who do that my father to get on outta here? I need a quick answer to this. I mean, I'm looking at looking at foulland tied for ninth. I'm looking at Mickelson tasha eighteen even though obviously Mickelson's one wonder the elder statesmen of the game McElroy is tough twenty first three is there is well what what what's going on with those guys real quick? Okay. So Phil Mickelson playing with house money. You ain't got worried about him. Now, remember, we're going to Pebble Beach, and he wanted beach earlier this year that being said he's got so much pressure on himself to try with that grand his career grand slam Rory the career grand slam in his head. Which is why he couldn't perform at the masters when he needs to just didn't add a fire. Jordan speed is something else. Jordan, speak just got some stuff in his golf game going on. It's the air in the Florida game. But this his his bottom is last a little bit longer than some of the other guys like Jason day almost had to pull out, but then had a chance to win. And he had a Evan flown like that too. So Jordan's the weren't dude. I'm worried about low bit, and I'm just worried for George because I think he's putting too much pressure on himself. Do like McElroy Jason day Rickie Fowler. Even though he doesn't have a major yet. I'm not worried about those dudes as much, and I think we're gonna have plenty of times. There's three more majors left this year breath three are now. So if you this is good bra was coming, hold your breath. Appreciate sure my thanks a lot. Great job as always appreciate it a lot. Thank you so much. Have a lotta grabs. You may. You know, the anytime brother anytime, no doubt, the one that only. Michael, collars, golf, Friday and report extraordinaire right here with Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news eighty eight say ESPN, eight to nine three seven seven six straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage on America's largest and most dependable four G L T. Networks by the way when you're hiring. You don't wanna waste sound Sony, dozens of relevant resumes. 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Oh, that's what I keep thinking about IB. Remember in that movie shaft could Samuel L Jackson when they call them tiger. We told the guy called tiger. Woo. Woo. No question. Hit at eight say ESPN inundate seven to nine three seven seven six Stephen Smith show live right here with you on ESPN radio. ESPN news. Get triple action protection for optimal engine performance, which he power nitro plus the premium gasoline, I'm gonna call up as always they say ESPN John calls went on screen. They're back on right now. I'm sorry. It was messing up screams messing up your general apologize. But let's get right to it. Let's go to Brian. You'll obviously they talked to me. But yeah, what you meant. Yeah. First time caller longtime listener rank you with your other show. I'm onto also say I was rooting for tiger. I didn't think it was going to win. I hope and he would to put everybody. Eighty two silent. But when he did I figured it might be one or two shots, but she ended up being, but I think he can win and our to this air. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on? I think he could win the US open. I'm gonna I'm not gonna kinda about I think he's going to ride the momentum and the Pebble Beach California June thirteenth to June sixteenth. I think he could pull it off until we see otherwise why not because again, it's not about his exceptionalism. It's about the fact that he made others unexceptional because they heard his footsteps, and it matter to them Mullen Nari, I think that matters kept got thick that matters. Now, I think that matters. I think that you had guys that were in the mix, but somehow some way he affected them. And I think that when you have that situation occurring with Tiger Woods that reminds. You of the Tiger Woods of old. Because again, you can't play defense in golf or you could do is sit up there and watched when he sits up there, and he marks is when he marks his spot with the ball. And then he stares at its two competitors are next to him. Isn't there looking right at him? All of a sudden, you just see them, and they don't seem the same. These are the kind of things I notice there. I could just be me. But it matters units. Two hundred seventy is at the greatest round of the world. But it was enough. Why because tiger was coming and it affected those who are head of him like Molinari's really just model Nari. So that's really what it comes down to. And I think that's what you've got to pay attention to. Right. Appreciate the call. Thank you. So, but let's go to Matt you lot of Stephen. They talk to me, Matt it's up. Hey, Steven one time with remember time caller. Thank you. So happy about Tiger Woods winning. And I think what's really fascinating is the betting lines. I really believe this man is going to surpass Jack Nicklaus. I think it's a foregone conclusion just like you said he just had to hit. He had to make the first one and he won to give you some context specifically. I tried. I've never done a sports. But before Stephen a I'm not a gambler I can't even afford to throw money away last year. I wanna bet ten thousand dollars in Tiger Woods doing and believe it or not the vodka gave us a hundred and twenty two one offs back in February. Once he won a valve valve Spar. I don't know how to pronounce it in March it. The odds went from one twenty to thirty three to one before last year's. A master's the problem is they wouldn't even like get allow you to win more than a thousand dollars. So it could really do the bet. I was so frustrated at it. They just wouldn't take the bed. So I bet one dollar. I got one dollar on. Tiger woods. Surpassing. Jack, nNcholas I just wanna get some context for the people thinking about the beds. I need you to hurry up though, you need to Harvey. Yup. You take to damn long with the story. Go ahead. Oh, that's it man. I'm just happy for Tiger Woods. And I think he's going to be just listen, I hope so. And I think I think he will surpass Jack that 'cause I don't think there's anybody that's gonna stop them. Listen, this is not basketball or football or whatever where you gotta play a full season. Then go through the postseason, and then after that you get to the championship round. So you only get one shot. No four majors here. He's gonna play. These three boys us you're talking about twelve shots at the app. Uil? Why would I think that he can't pull off to wouldn't a third of those? Who's a definitive presidents go stand in the way, we thought it was going to be taught us one time. That isn't the case we recently, we thought it was gonna be your ROY macaroni I want. That is just to Johnson is no joke was there. But didn't win it. I mean, we don't know we don't know. That's just me. Gerald, July for Stephen they talked to me was up. Hey, longtime fan first time caller go actually calling a migraine what you said earlier with Tiger Woods as far as long as backhoes up. I think care he got the burst out of the way. And as far as this person, that's gross digression if nobody's trans questions as family transgressors. Well, go ahead. Transgressions. I'm sorry. And then the other question I had was with the Lakers. I think the best coach would be money Williams because they respect. Let's let me say this. I love Monty Williams, and he is profoundly liked and respected in the NBA community. I'm not saying he can't coach, please. Don't get me wrong. He was he was a decent head coach in New Orleans. So people thought he got screwed over. He shouldn't have been fired. But nobody ever accused him of being exceptional at coaching. Do I think he has the potential to be? Yes. But I don't know what you do know is that he's an exceptional individual who is impossible to root against and as a result. There's an abundance of people who want him to get that job. That doesn't mean he is the ideal candidate qualified to get the job. Mark jackson. He was successful go to state how come he's not getting a look at. I don't understand. Tyron Lewis a champion that God LeBron's team to three straight championships. This excuse me, we can't ignore that. We got to give credit where Credit's due. Phil Jackson can get credit for having eleven championships when you were coaching, Michael, Jordan, and Scottie Pippen, and then after that, Shaq and Kobe how come Tyron? Lou can't get credit for coach LeBron. Hachem net cabinet agree with that point. So that's that's my point. So I'll look at it from their perspective. And as as pertains, Luke Walton, I'm glad you brought that up. I wanna say this to everybody out there listening about Luke Walton? I am happy. Luke, Walton got the job. Luke Walton deserves this opportunity. I thought he got screwed over with the roster that he had made available to him this year with the Lakers. And I thought he got dealt an unfair hand I completely and totally applaud Steve Kerr speaking up for his friend and his former subordinate and Luke Walton all of that's true. And I don't have a problem with king's ownership, and blah divide hiring Luke Walton either. But I wanna stay this. It's a damn travesty that the man had the job before you even walked out of the Lakers facility. Do I need to sit up here and call for the Rudy rule of being vocal quarterbacks. Football. I mean, damn this guy had a job before you had a chance to pass gas. And we all know that the Lakers spent the year sticking up to join. He's gonna forty percent of his games. Now. Again, I am a proponent of Luke Walton being the head coach of the kings. He's you're talking about Monty Williams being a good guy you need to go. And learn Luke Walton what a great guy he is. And I'm poster to him because I love his daddy. The Walton one of the more for nominal individuals that I've ever known. I love that man. So I am very happy for Luke Walton who has always been good to me. I have no problem with getting the job. I have a problem with the absence of the process. I mean damn. Luke Walton want the way for the Lakers mutually agreed to walk away from the Lakers job on Friday, wards, the Russki. Was reported that loophole to the nowhere in negotiations that afternoon. I mean, come on. Because it's important that those interviews those candidates interview. So we can noted a process being on it and other people get an opportunity to be highlighted. So we'll know about them. And no problem with loophole to getting the job. Problem with how quickly got it. No, by the way for you. Laker fans out there if you are still thinking that Magic Johnson walked away because Luke Walton you're just a new full. I told y'all last week before I went on vacation had nothing to do. With Luke Walton, Luke Walton was gone. Pelinka was going to make sure that treaty bus was going to sign off on that. Magic johnson. It was done. Then want magic to walk the way. Rob Pelinka appears to have had something to do with that. Because Magic Johnson was not complimentary of him walking out the door. He talked about Turpin it backstabbing, and I told you fair unfair truth or not true. There was a lot of scuttle bug about stuff that was being chirped about magic behind his back. And now we're talking about Pelinka poobah away is incredibly accomplished as an agent very very capable damn great basketball. My anybody that's Kobe's port with terms of having a basketball mind side. I stand with Kobe. So this is not questioning rob liquors ability in terms of basketball mind, but I will tell you as we see any yet. Since he's been with the Lakers. A and b whether it's agents or team executives. Very few people like him and are interested in doing business with him. According to everything that I've heard so if that man is going to be running the lakes. It makes sense while Bill Plaski wrote a phenomenal column this past Friday going off. About the state of affairs with the Los Angeles Lakers. I mean, this does is just bear right now. And it's looked like it looks like it's about to get worse. Say to. At at eight say ESPN, it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six back to your phone calls and more in a minute on tiger before we get into the NBA players and our number two don't touch that dollar. Stephen they in the house coming your way right here live when he has a radio and ESPN news, by the way, one other thing to say if you missed my open, the segment go check it out on demand in the Stephen podcast brought to you by the Capital One. Save a card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment, two percent, grocery stores at one percent on all other purchases. 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And so tearing down tiger, quote unquote will be different moving forward number one. And then number two really quickly. End that is widely accepted that the Lakers aren't gonna get a premium free agent after seeing the way Jimmy Butler, Philly the other night. What do you think about somebody like a Jimmy Butler and say Campbell somebody else who carries their team pairing up with labar unsure of their second tier? I think I think the combination of the two would definitely help the Lakers. But I think he is the problem when you have LeBron James particularly coupling that with the Laker tradition is championships or nothing. And so as a result, I turn that back to you with a quick ten second answer from you. Because that's all I have time for is Jimmy Butler Kemba Walker with LeBron enough to win a championship Yama with the with the sending thank so. Okay. Okay. That's a legitimate point. I don't think you could be summarily dismissed or like, it's insulting to even suggest such thing. Because I think Kimble walkers a brand of bad, brother. He can ball. And I got a lot of I got a lot of faith that Jimmy Butler. Who's got a lot of heart plays on both ends of the floor willing to defend, but I'm big on Klay Thompson, I think the perfect complement to LeBron James will be Klay Thompson. But I don't think the Golden State Warriors are gonna lose him. I think he's their number one priority even over Kevin Durant out or number two of next transition to some NBA players. I'll still take your calls on tiger. But I'm gonna transition to some of this NBA playoff action that took place this past week and our number two with Stephen up next don't touch that down. That's just a sample of what you hear on the Stephen swift show, weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN.

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Tiger wins no. 82; will Jack come out of retirement?

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Tiger wins no. 82; will Jack come out of retirement?

"That is what we need to get people until the gamut goal nice to be your boys congratulations on all that you're doing a mediocre I would look at Boston we'll Tom and look at this stuff that they probably some of it's like absolutely stupid section quite quite amusing and stuff or two three years ago he could have just retired doesn't because he's the best that's why he does things better than you do that's tiger that's eligible his eighty second eighty second career PGA tour events over in Japan I ever sanctioned guess official PGA tour event ever in Japan which is surprising never thinking he was this wasn't going to happen we stayed on the whole time even before the masters even before the tour championship through all the back surgeries and everything else we never tigers one in like a bazillion countries now he has tied Sam Snead for the all time PGA tour record for most wins in a career he's Ian Poulter and his entire PG toward career has three wins and tiger woods has three in the last So go fuck yourself there is the three years old snead was like fifty four something somewhere around there tigers been he was of course at seventy nine for a very long time tour championship got him to eighty the masters tournament which was this year got him to eighty one and then this got him to eighty two I saw that in the last fourteen starts only I think only two no need you could've named any single person the history of the world that doesn't have more than three wins in and their career but you chose him it was just a tweet I so I didn't I saw that tweet in all the golf have won three times in their last fourteen starts as rory mcilroy and Tiger Woods so he's in pretty good company Yeah I saw another tweet that I believe that this guy will not come back will not get to the top will not win more golf tournaments up poor eighty it's of course some sort of doubt crept into our brains you could've fucking just retired taunt tiger woods okay his middle name was Tom Yeah okay his his dwi particular dark time for me as well I was at I saw goes to say it I it's a stat my guess is we're going to get into we're gonNA shower tiger woods with praise on this podcast and we're going to be the name of the bar that you went to that when you got arrested and now it's no longer there Moose McAfee's loose mcduffie all-time name burt down to the ground down the ground Cedar Rapids Iowa burnt down one fusion we welcoming from barstools sport rigs and Trent guys welcome to the show four players Barstool sports tiger woods has just one in but I want us before we get to that I want to say congratulations dos the three of us sitting here for never wavering over jumping off the bandwagon surgery back surgery out for the year GonNa miss the Masters Dui everybody's megaphone we stayed strong we stayed so fucking strong we're like if you people sorry which was like a couple of weeks after he thought he was making a comeback you'd look good the hero world challenge he was gonNA play a couple of tournaments you're thinking he's back now he had this little the newer younger hitting her barstools four tigers had the three factor. I refuse to take naps anymore that might be the biggest sort of breaking news story in what we do as blog here that you that has existed so wedding this happened Saturday it was Memorial Day weekend that happen to him right yeah yeah and it was you know I woke up Sunday morning hung over from this wedding is about Tiger Woods Dui had broken forty five minutes since the time I'd taken the nap so I was behind in this business and the blogging business. You just can't do that you cannot be wedding in Chicago and go anywhere yeah I was well it has to do with it the place you were at burning down to the ground but I tell you the story we go where during my flight home so I was like I'll just take a quick nap I'm GonNa take a quick nap I'm GonNa get up and everything's GonNa be fine they'll this last napa ever took because I took a nap and I woke up in the news stopped remember when he got that Dui man yeah those videos were service in a hit like Hogan stand up he's on the hood of the car that was like a month after he got back surgery it was playing golf in Dubai Yeah and then like the next round of golf he like through and then had back surgery and then got a Dui so yeah we were in New York we're crazy times closet and I just I loved going there great photo of you from that night Mugshot Yup yeah it's tough but that's your most what happened back to this that big of a deal in the in the larger scheme of things like what you missed about thirty five minutes but I remember coming in how we weren't in New York yeah where we I can't remember but I remember someone saying to me like who works here you're just a big dummy you are stupid you need to use spring off because they just aggregate all them under one umbrella and so you can get the best teatime deal slash barstool orders go get the APP in your APP store lurches out he's not on the show as you may have noticed he has he had a meeting pop up so top breakfast you haven't heard later strap still should be the number one aspect for burying their place in the ground I would never I love that one place where all your demons exists places near and dear to my heart it was the size of a loser's you idiots think that this man will be back that he can ever beat that the top young stars today's generation than you could ever get back to that level one three yeah been here and it doesn't like him winning the masters and Breaking News on you know that's it's scheduled it's going to happen yeah his delight not schedule no it doesn't who was but being like what was what was going on why were you like thirty two minutes late on the tiger thing it wasn't dave but it was someone I was like I took a nap I didn't want to and I woke up in the world had started to burn rough we're like catastrophe if you read it it's a catastrophic but boys is no matter where you're trying to play fog off it's great it's a good time fall foliage I've noticed that all over the place get your ass out there playing golf do it with Supreme Golf go to sprint dot com yeah long story short if you're a blogger don't take naps and we've come a long way from an we stayed strong the whole fucking Strep who made fun of us they mocked us they said I can't believe we were in New York 'cause we had started the gas to seventeen yeah and I remember when we actually did start as podcasts member de one episode where I was like I got home I ate a bunch of McDonalds at like one. Am Oh really gets a blip on the radar just just huge is a huge blimp on the radar blip on the radar that's something small right it's really like a big ship implant floating through the sky on the radar now it's a blip on the radar which is you know comes up P P P that's where that comes from exactly said lurches an idiot was the subject and then it said at sixteen o one on Thursdays podcast lurch refers to twelve million people in New York City being blip on the radar are there's a couple of notes in here that that one of them that I really wanted to say feels a little wrong doing it while he's not here to defend himself but I just a very funny email from somebody this comment I saw a lot of comments about this actually people like did I wasn't sure if I heard that correctly bagging realism like lurch thanks it's a blip on the radar like my friend that I live with he just says the wrong words with confidence the other day he said Oh i forgot what it could have been about the wildfires or something and he goes man that's just such a cat try to sneak out maybe live in a warmer climate than we do you gotTa Use Supreme Golf to Bookham Spring Dot com slash barstool. They've got all the other teatime apps case of using the other teatime APP outside of spring the last year basically won the master's tournament he just wanted to tastic year great year it's weird I mean we'll get more into that spring off you're going to look for the rest of the year Oh play by year like we'll see where we are in a year and we'll assess then there's definitely many of them that I'm I know blip on the radar is one that I live on the radars is there exports a lot but not like golf at that level I didn't understand who Sam snead was and all these fucking Jack Nicklaus and and like what the Masters Meant now being twenty five ninety miles per hour somebody sent me a video on twitter the other day they go there just is a fucking five second video where they zoomed in on a blimp over the trees Yuba coming into your ears that's probably could've you call them a two ball as nurtured baritone voice eardrums are still intact that means you lurch isn't on the show off we don't know what just happened it's like somebody pops out of the bushes and they hit with a catastrophic I bet play it by ear would get close to like two thirds people knowing what I sixty miles away and they're just like I can't believe that thing's going seventy miles straight hager fucking woodsmen tiger woods doing the thing he's correct one is play by ear yeah I know that one play by ear 'cause like whatever you're wherever we're hearing our deciding how to go about it but there's definitely people out there tate's when he plays he's a terminator he's a killer of hopes and dreams of everyone that tries to face him but I never really got to experience that I was ten eleven twelve yeah Trent just said in his little monologue there which was very beautifully said Trent eloquent I think you we we we had all this hope and we stood by our man but there's there were times if you sing blimp thing on the radar it's like that's the opposite of what you're going for do you think he genuinely thought it was blimp on the radar misspoke I think he thought it was blimp was ahead of him and he wasn't catching them you can't catch tiger woods he's a cat he's a tiger you're not catching him he's back speaking of back we have these shirts in their unreal are your woods while I'm like coherent enough to understand what's going on I understand the gravity of the situation I understand he is the best golfer of all time he is the Best Golfer of the generation he rush us us who have been immersed in the language catastrophes of our lives no that it's a catastrophe sounds like you're being you're tired of being slash a catastrophic five years old am I twenty five or twenty six twenty six now being twenty six years old I do that you'll learn the second older you get the more frequent you just forget win the thing we want how lucky are we I we get to live through this we had this through it we've had so much like hope and you know we we stuck in like around your town go to school you know take some walking around money go into your drawer tell the honey you're going to get some fucking grapes cheese and got to sit down and watch tiger woods dominate a golf tournament he went ahead and didn't look back he was five strokes ahead he guys were guys were were doubt may have creeped in like in the deep parts of our mind we're like man and I've said this before he won the master's in when he won the master's there was a time where I was like I just WanNa Watch real great design back the tiger she's what he is is the name of his book hops Tegel were owned back all right oral walker they don't know how much younger am I six years I think yeah I think that is the important window right there if I was what no I'm saying I think those six years were into golf and like whatever your older brother does that's what you do so I was like Oh cool they like golf I'll get fucking really into it we became massive tiger fans like six or seven I mean I remember being on the course back then Akers but you're going to wear to that fucking grocery stores you're back t shirt and everyone's GonNa look at you like what is that what's what that Tiger print Oh let me tell you something tiger woods back You know a historic around of tigers on golf channel that will alive I want him Babe Ruth run around the bases like yeah it's like a cool story but like I yeah a blip on the radar there's a blend on the radio I think it's what he thinks it's not a plane that's not a bird that's a blimp on the radio gear blimp blimps fastest fucking thing doesn't sixty thousand seven era when I started really into golf that was like twelve thirteen years ago I was in college I was carrying about hockey and more about golf at the time my older brother what is your birthday where you're at but he's doing it like I'm watching it was at one am four am it was crazy with the rain outs we'll get into all that schedule but like you thought he's holier than Thou you thought this that so the haters have been out for a long time now for a long time ten or twelve years wherever the hell it's Ben where they've been chirping and they've had their day in the watch it when I was younger but I didn't understand I don't I didn't get it I didn't root for it you know what I mean like I just knew like you were just taught to like tiger woods like I did fuck going through the whole scandal as a huge tiger fan and because there are so many haters then like even my buddies who they just weren't tiger guys tripled the multipurpose shirt yeah no doubt about so happy we get to watch it is so cool like frank saying that we actually get to witness it there's been so much time that we've spent watching you do where he'd be like five tournaments into the yearbook he's GonNa win every he's GonNa wind up return that's what he does and then to be honest with you like it was crazy get up in the morning being like I'm playing golf today but I have no chance to win is your Keegan faded everybody around Imagine Yama gave it a good run like tiger woods the masters and what's so cool about this and we're going there's a lot of details that I want to get to a lot of stats that I pulled up that we snag off twitter that I looked up myself or whatever which I'll read some of those quotes and a little bit like he just was so in control and it's like what the fuck change like he had a little drainage out of his knee and he's just perfect knowledge that's the they had a nice little cash they're awesome run the haters had a great decade and now like Frankie sang to see him come all the way back the fact that you want that was literally when you were in prime time sport watching and I was just too young I mean yeah there was also crazy for me 'cause tiger that that was like when Tiger became my number one in that too but just like in general the fact that Tiger Woods won the torch and then had like a pretty shitty looking okay now he's GonNa win every tournament again and then he had a pretty lacklustre summer and and people were starting right articles again of like all that we witnessed tigers last greatest showing like this ESPN articles tiger woods loses number one ranking hasn't won a major and then you look back and when he's done interviews if he's no I didn't like my swing at that time and I'm going to I did and was very nice very nice moment but now we're gonNA move forward and he looks kinda rusty and crappy that could have been it now like you're saying I don't know where the end is and that makes me very happy there is no like you didn't know if he was GonNa win or not and then I know he fucking he did it he might there is like we're talking about now we're tweeting it as a joke like you might win every tournament there was legitimately a chance evolving into this now forty three to fifty year old tiger he he goes in stages and two thousand four he was the number one golf you can read that's all it is it's simple yeah when you're with your ahrends w then when are you gonNa do bit Wabi I'll be back right that's good listen that's that's sick local you just suck his dick about like his workout regimen and his schedule and how he's this that then everyone when all that happened and they they were just dancing on graves man is flawless of a golf tournament I feel any started with three bogeys again don't get me wrong made a colo bogus here and there but like he was showing control of everything the way that Gary Woodland talked about it and he now knows what it takes to swing with a few back it took him a couple of seasons it took them a couple of tournaments it took him a couple of majors he won the master's He's won three tournaments this year he is just run like at the Ryder Cup he looked awful hero he looked pretty bad you're kind of thinking like Oh man like I thought once he won the tour championship he was just going to win every tournament wins a fucking Nassar's you checking your cell phone and like people that were actually watching text you updates on time and that was when he was winning at one point he won like seven golf tournaments in a row row when you're just thinking like Oh yeah you can't situation no you are right about when you win the masters after to a championship and there are people saying this was a he he won the fifteenth the One people never thought he could win he hugged his son that you kind of it starts to creep in a little bit like man is this was that like he gave it everything he had and he's never and then he comes out he looked flawless in Japan that was and along with rory mcilroy so like he's just this is why we have a shirt that says back because he's fucking back this is what he does now I will say it's going to be a little bit of a different norm like tiger massive swing reconstruction because I want to get stronger I wanted to hit the ball further it's GonNa take time I'M GONNA lose you're all going to say I'm not going to be able to do this anymore and then he just comes back with in big cat and KFC of like no you guys don't get it this is what tiger does it's exactly we just said he did it right after a ninety seven after he won the master's by twelve fucking shots he didn't is going to go through stretches where he's like I just need to like take some space regroup for a couple months maybe get your needs rain or maybe this that but like when he is healthy in Cape the numbers that stretch I guess it was early two thousand eight when he like at Bay Hill he made that pot and through was hat off tournaments when he won like seven six or seven or eight terminates row everybody was he comes back he's finally healthy enough to compete reconstruction swing and he's the sixth ranked player in the world he's the current Masters Champ he's the only guy in the last in his last fourteen starts it's won three tournaments end in sight and no way no end in sight ten years give me ten years this is what he does and we talk about it all the time he goes under swing changes this is the new tiger woods and he has evolved ah thirteen it comes back he wins a player becomes the number one player in the world then he goes through refunding five five fucking Germans goes through as a bunch of issues again and the now double physically to put the work in and all that he will win golf tournament yeah at this point I'm begging people to doubt him because he to the way we've gone now like before he won the master's before when the ship it was like man I hope those doubters aren't ultimately right turns out they weren't I want to go through another cycle of it I want people to be like you're never gonNa Catch Jack by far the most major champion winner of all time far yeah I think he's GonNa Twenty majors in five years that would be amazing crazy St Andrews shaking his head new swing coach round Oh four oh five stars win a major again he has that stretch from Oh six oh seven away where he had multiple stretches where he won like six seven eight golf tournaments in a row. We're GONNA actually get eighty-three this this this and I want him to continue to them wrong so we can continue to make fun of them on this show we need that I will say thank God Jack Nicklaus didn't only win last or this current might not be the last this current vera of tire that's always look at it if we didn't have that carrot man might he might be majors because then I don't know that we'd witness I like you hung it up yeah I think that eighteen back that that's still up there is why we get this you want a bunch of majors then he has the the ACL and all that then he has scandal that so he loses three or four years of his life and he reconstructs swing again okay what's his number now like can get to ninety one hundred wins like I think in I think in five years in a look back and tiger woods is going to be a perfectly reconstructed swing for how he wants his body and he wins and dominates and we are experiencing right now and this is the same thing when I sat on that run down and I gave I've given that bill many times dave more major championships past the age of forty three just hang it up yeah probably it's something I think we get one this year a major and you might have been like fuck this I got I think you're right that eighty two now he's got to that like the eighteen the fact that that's out there it really starts it starts to beg the question of you know he did which names did you just drop Dawson Johnson Rory Rory Dustin Johnson speed J. T. yep so tire one more majors than all of them this year yes you are fine getting lying because we're going to face get in line Frankie that's bold I liked that it's bull we were talking about earlier let's say I mean yeah I think like he wins the US Open I don't wing for it's not good for him it doesn't matter everything's good for him right now I do like that attitude I like that yes he's been playing on guys you think he's stay playing in his prime and he stays playing them Bro all right I think he has said recently in the last year that like he he he said like okay let's say I have another decade we'll that's forty more major championships he got forty forty that you just listed and I'm saying eventually these guys are probably going to mess around and win a couple fine they can win or skiing five percent I'd already I don't vis swinging reconstructed it and then from nine through two thousand two he was unstoppable we went on the greatest run in the history of golf after that he reconstructed his swing again experience I went to the two seven. Pga I'll never forget watching the two thousand eight US Open in real time yeah I know I know you know he he said when when I fucking asked him a year ago he was like no I guess is my best shot and then he wanted Augusta I so I definitely think he's got a shot everywhere but he's GonNa drive privacy is going to drive that boat dock at somewhere on Long Island Oh yeah he'll be out he'll be out in the long island sound Bri is when he's doing don't know anything about harding park which is the PG venue I know literally nothing saw and then the British opens in England for US Georgia's in my in my fifteen percent clip. Yeah I was trying to do that I don't know God he's left lower than that it's like twelve so bad to get to have it's I I think I mean I think he has a really good chance to repeat at Augusta I don't know I don't know why he couldn't that's where he can drive it a little loose everything is in play because he looked that good during the tournament oedipus he looked good he really truly did LemMe we talk I I'd love to see her podcast we'll we're GONNA make outlandish sort of outlandish predictions about what Tiger doing going forward today because he just he won it's got to win five majors that's getting twenty I look that's a lot of gold I don't even to here's all because of this I think that if he gets to nineteen I mean I think he's like kgo eight percent we're talking about the Best Golfer of all time we're talking about some of the Joe Schmo that he stays good at this you're saying that like Dustin Johnson Rory don't talk about I liked the doubters I think that's great look it is bolt that's an incredible even lower than is you gotta get three was what percentage is that over the next forty major someone do that math hurry up let's call it eight taking a win there I think he always has a chance of bursch open so he could definitely win I think two or three the masters or the show two or three people have to understand the you get what you pay for it I have had so many fucking people have demi have tweeted at me have send us emails have stopped me in the a lot of options out there when you're when you're thinking about what to wear how to dress yourself it's fog off right now layers Peter Miller Hoodie you're in there Jake Jake came up to me yesterday weird I'm GonNa talk first about Peter Millar and then I'm going to read some of these quotes from other golfers who were giving quotes about our good friend Tiger Woods but look Peter Millar okay we got we got more victories than to other todd nine people in the top ten combined yeah I did a little I did a little breezy thirty one twenty major doubter I know that they will cause the boogeyman bats twenties a lot of majors. I hope it happens I'm here for it I hope it happens on Frankie you're sitting on the fence getting elect outer he had like that we can't have that agenda doubting him you are now they're you know how many good golfers he's going to beat them all you think he's GonNa Win Seventy Bucks Sixty Bucks you see this Peter Millar up there it's going to be nicely propped up in the pro shop because it's the best product that they have they're going to make sure that it's nicely right in front of your eyeballs and streets and said man you told us you and the boys uniform Blake Re told me to get Peter More I finally did I finally pull out that card and said you know what I'm GonNa do it I just think like he's back in New York I liked the vibes of him and wink wink I wanNA bethpage of course so he does you know New York the New York crowds and all that okay I want to now I'm going to go through so Gary Woodland of course who's a friend of the program had him on the show yeah I gave him one of the cleanest for a period you might as well push it a little further and get the most comfortable you're not walking into a golf pro shop and like spending less on a quarter ZIP and spending less than gave him he hasn't given it back to me yet that's how good he's still well of course not get your back not pr dot com slash four they really do make the best apparel in the history of the world hold your now though well hey I guess thirteen thousand anyone forget it it's Kinda scary ashforth you're going to get a complimentary cart cooler you are welcome you and you can also see a bunch of our favorites they've got them all curated on that website for you peter more dot com slash four on straits and he asked me if he could borrow as I ever given close away to someone if he could borrow Peter Millar vast because he said it looks so good on my instagram stories layers transitional weather you name it they got it you're gonNA look great tubes buddy went on a golf trip to Wisconsin played Deployed they live in a mansion or a shanty outside on the street what's the difference let's talk about it and I hope you can reiterate it was like you're going to pay X. amount already I was loosey-goosey and I was ready to go any direction and Gary will then you kind of he just gives off a vibe where he's like I'm not a handshake guy I'm like a very cool calm relaxed guy so then Frankie I so I appreciate his I led with every option I was like I'm open and found nearly almost like I was I was the Beta in dancing look at the pricing but it's a little bit more expensive but I'm already spending the money why would I now put like razors on my arms when I could be floating in a cloud Peter Moro Dot com three strokes Gary will inside it was a ball striking exhibition I mean everything was just good he drove the ball beautifully his distancing troll is a joke never seen anything like it and then he made some putts that adds up he's now and that's really right in my wheelhouse so I'm very happy with Peterman Laura I tell you this Peter Morici the biggest gripe that I see that you get is like oh it's it's expensive it's even fills number forty four but to get to eighty two I feel like I've had a decent career if I win six times a year for the next ten years I still wouldn't get there auto allowed you to have such a great while I got I got a good read on it so I was third in line he came into Barcelo. HQ Hold Trophy US Open Trophy rigs birdie's correct Roy mcelroy said to win even fifty times the PJ tors an unbelievable achievement. That's a you're violation Roy sorry about that in itself with three shot victory it was impressive it's something like I've never seen he misses the ball in the right spot every time that obviously eliminates a big number and when he does that he makes a lot of birdies in that right before the livestream and he's like you have to feel not that I'm wearing and I was like what is it any longer I didn't I didn't even know they know everybody knows that I'm a huge that was very nice try you describe that beautifully he played with a one tiger woods last two days of these other championship which Tiger Woods won this is crazy everyone talks about Phil Phil Tiger Oh what a what a showdown these guys have had over their career that's the rivalry dude he's got thirty eight less wins than Tiger House they dapper up not great and then it so I've got to good reads under my belt him and I doubt up and the Internet crazy once I saw the video so so gary will in front of the later I want to talk to that right that is the thing I was gonNA say once he gets to nineteen it may be like it's it's just four adds up to some pretty good weeks he didn't miss a ball left I don't think for two straight rounds he misses in the right spots and like I said is this distance control is so good that adds up to a lot around you lead me did you see his did you see Gary Woodland hand start to cut off so you you you changed mid like stroke as you were going towards her US thirty eight he got basically half amount of wins the Tiger Hassle makes you look at it and go like how did we get here how did how are we at there's a picture of us holding the fuck what is that thing called Dan Yan fan trophy demise will do when he tied the record for most wins and you know really string the string jinked is a cool thing with people tell me man I thought I'd get these I just go to work with him I come home a lot of people like to change and more comfortable stay my pants pants or to most anybody would hoodie guy we're now everyone listening right now feeling Jake's walking around the room inside of his hood we always talk about the corner zips the pants all that stuff but they've got these are the best pants these are the best quarter zips the best of the best poll is the best fucking holding jake that's the best I've ever had a cool thing with it you know I doubt in the history of the show I know you frank you had to go to jake on a couple of weeks ago Gary Woodland and I share them the generator of pop can't speak about this in my in my present and that's great that's great perspective from Roy because you know we see these numbers eighty to fifteen eighty two big now be just like he to comprehend what that is more he would have to win it like a twelve percent clip. Well that's crazy you're crazies one twenty two percent of all that I mean this is what I like it is at the Laci this year very much thinking about getting so I don't fusion surgery people together thank you frank don't butter knife my wed two thousand nine times two thousand one he won five times two thousand two he won five times two thousand and three he won five times to four wins once again eighty two and if you go through the years okay and nine hundred ninety six Tiger Woods won twice ninety seven four times nineteen ninety eight one nine hundred ninety one eight times I was going to play to win but it's like you sort of their let's play and then let's win by three strokes apparently it really makes you think like that fourth hole in the Thursday round of the Yeah I mean he legitimately he could threaten you know ninety to one hundred wins at this point now if he wins like three going to be a different era for tiger where he's going to pick and choose where he thinks he can win as opposed to like playing them all and then he'll win at a high rate he's had those tournaments even in the past couple of months where he's ninety four twenty four yeah he'd be fucking over one hundred hundred and six win any be only forty three so he could get to one hundred twenty North Championships in two thousand what if you went to a Porta potty after the third hole had to write speaking of which how about our guy the boss man sore and I just don't feel it that's just how my body is now I remember that's what he said where that would that doesn't happen in your in your twenties thirties but now that he's forty-three what you're saying is right he's out of here instead he rattles off whatever it was three or four birdies in a row makes nine birdies for the round shoot six-under leads the tournament and wins by three and it's like Oh that might have changed everything choose but I mean it's just about staying healthy that last year I feel like we went a little bit too much like there was too too too big a gap between him GonNa have a few tournaments that he can really go and there's no reason why he can't go and dominate like this Ozo- the Dubai tournament like the travelers like he can still he can pick it those those seasons are are most guy are way better than most guys career without the bad stretch of everything that happened without the scandal this cow have one hundred thirty wins he just wouldn't lane for him no one point which majors which I think I don't have some knee issues which he said he said it he was saying that he couldn't changing shirts in the forty minutes between the Saturday around and the Sunday round that he was like somebody somebody that we know and his camp on Nope I picture him when he walked in the whole room oh there was no one there was just a noise around the red shirt he's the king of branding like that's all athletes more times a year for the next whatever as five years so it was he can keep healthy enough to play in a in a in a nice pack of a good amount of tournaments because like you said inched it's also like I don't know why people are surprised by so called people on twitter being like they tweeting early in the round being like so it's technically go through and I added up all of the winds for so tiger going into the week was the tenth ranked player in the world co-champions embassy house in nineteen could have changed history forever like if he goes four bogeys and early might just be a jet next mill seventy ones and we'll get the hell out ever stopped two thousand ten two thousand eleven two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen in two thousand seventeen zero in two thousand thirteen five the only major so you're right do you think you need to play a little more but he's got it's going to it's going to be picking your spots ironically enough like the way that Mark Steinberg talked about it was like this are there winds that total seventy nine tiger woods has eighty two on it's really baffling when you put these numbers compared to all the you know to the PGA Championship Bet Patriots outplaying tournament then he did it again after the what after the US Open until the British Open I don't think he played yes so it's like he's and like Dj has twenty wins rory has seventeen like Justin rose is what tiger's age almost close to there maybe a couple of years younger he's got ten win so it's watching it a strange our but twitter was going nuts at like midnight on a Saturday night because the man was wearing red that's he knows what he's doing yeah you see him in red it's it's which I will admit if we were if it wasn't positive that the boss man was going to break the record I would dabble in that game I mean you start due nowadays where it's like I'm my own brand I have my own brand owned media company all this stuff but tigers the originator final round if it's a final round I'm wearing red I don't one of them was only an eighteen hole event I could win that fucking thing seventy eight snead won the Palm Beach Round Robin Five Times that tournament is only fifteen competitors Oh my goodness seventy three seventy three one of those instances it was only fourteen but like that is just staggering if you go through and a lot of people some people calling this like Sam snead slander they're going through and trying to discredit a bunch of his wins hold on threads here the numbers start to fall oh yeah now I don't think we need to dabble in the dark arts of ripping apart like when the Rangers claimed they've won four Stanley cups three of them have come when there was only five other teams in the NHL How could you possibly compare that to win the islanders won against twenty up now he's just going to be perfectly healthy forever he's GonNa go through phases before the oldest forty three year old in Israel World Yep so I think he's just GonNa go through those phases but you are right and he went from the masters about what our man has actually done and what Sam snead had done the nineteen fifty Crosby pro-am instead of a playoff four players tied for the lead and they all were credited with a win just yeah if you could fill in those years with sprint average four wins a year and all those years what would it be at all years got zero right because some years yet seven he couldn't squat down to read putts towards the end of the year like he usually does not couldn't putt well because I was just like leaning over to look at it instead of screen down which is crazy down I need to air if there's a a day between if there's forty minutes between I'm putting on that red and I it was it was strange because it was in Japan so the time changes weird doc was like hey go inside a little door the right they've got you red shirt for you throw that thing on and then he just came out I read that was amazing no one else in the field change their external mike you wants to dabble three of Sam snead's wins were only thirty six hole tournaments one of them was in the garbage seventy nine Komo yet family doesn't want to tell what's going on when he gets back like if I'm Jack I if watching this last weekend I'm very nervous I always envisioned some Sam snead's right because our guys gonNA touch because he's going to get up there so we're not we didn't even need to do that however if we were going a little bit what just give me a little taste if we were going to do that and we a total surprise they're like no you're going to do this skins game thing and then since he's there it's like Oh is we'll play tournament Japan and then he just wanted which tiger would tell you know I always like last year like all he's like well what is a win Oh yeah it's like well what is a win because if you WANNA count wins like I have one hundred like he was going crazy time yeah no he was talking all about people were tagging me and all the is and I will say I very seriously considered responding to some of these tweets from Jack Nicklaus but I refrain myself if we were if things were dice here if it was really looking like it might come down to let's say the boss man finishes his career with Eighty Win Sam sees got eighty two then I might be around the guy wears so let's go through a lot of these numbers he obviously ties Sam snead all time record of eighty two PGA tour wins I of life but it's very obvious that the surgery and the hard work tiger put in resulted in quality of Golf Exclamation Point Tiger Woods Valerie is hard work to the tour championship are crusading all across the Internet that Armand's winds are significantly more legitimate then Sam snead's not GonNa do we're the driver Jack Trion like throw out eighteen months ago boldly underlying it at the master's and punctuated it with today's record-tying victory the eighty two win service reflection of consistency over twenty four years and strength of mind nine guys ahead of them Brooks kept Roy macaroni Dustin Johnson Justin Thomas John Ryan Patrick Lay Justin rose and Shafi Bryson D Shambo I ended up every single one much as strength of game he goes on I think tiger woods put it well after those championship when he said that the body doesn't allow them to do what he wanted but he can still think his way around the golf course the thirty six tournament the nineteen forty six world championship golf had four players in it seventy two that counts as one of his wins he tweeted incredibly happy for words and for game of golf on his eighty second PGA tour win for a number of years all we wanted was to see tiger healthy again before his quality like the final round or it's going to be on Monday does tiger where Edmonds again you idiot and I remember Rocco Remember Rocco in the playoff and the eight was wearing a register yeah and he said his plan with them like Oh shit he's fucking thing if you're if you're decky and you see the outrage and you do the why do I even T- up like I'm done I should where it's like you can't ride a horse backwards down the street on Tuesdays well we're just not going to look at that as an actual law that's how these Sam snead wins sound right now just again we're not here to do that but you know it's like whatever the babe and like the pinstripes her it's like dude you're seeing tiger woods in red eye that is just so conic every time probably the people around him too working on the TV tell you drain Birdie Fox News can't can't keep these congrats my friend I wish I could shake your hand today but I'm not sure I could get there in time with a winky face Komo CH- how funny would it be reports started to trickle out there like Jack is GonNa play he's act like he's like when he is fishing in the Bahamas he's like around the point and he can't see back home in any time that little robot comes around the fucking Augusta for practice he's sick and tired of this shit hiker shows up to Gaza and Jack's early on the rain eighteen fifty crosby pro am this is this is a case of nineteen fifty you'll hear about these laws in the nineteen twenty somebody might need to fact check back but you're not you're not reading what's what does that mean but I do think he's going to those issues and I think that's going to happen it's not like oh he got his neat tweets because US amateurs and what exactly do we count a win it was it was incredible when he was doing that some of the tweets I got this weekend we're like Oh boy Jack Fischer back gives them the inaugural I t's St shot he's like no no no I'm going yeah dollars jackets the first shot grabs his bag by like are we at the point yet if you sat down and you just went through the pure numbers were tigers added to it in the last year could you now make the argument that goes into you think Jack how older people say they can feel when the rain's coming because of their knees in Jackson knees start to creek when Tiger did that guy win again guys still doing they'll win why again eastbound tweeted all oh he was tweeting up a storm last night no no if I want I I wonder if you gave him four rounds in the Masters Tournament could you one round break eight I'd like to ask them seventy nine years old turning eighty January that's tough eighty told majors again only five guys that have the the career Grand Slam which is Tiger Jack Ben Hogan Gene Sarazen and Gary Player you know liberal winds that were giving Sam snead With him overcoming everything winning a major eleven years after his last one does that count bigger which is the greatest player to ever play the game most of all time Sam Snead eighty-two he's got seven majors tiger woods now eighty two wins he's got fifteen majors I put a little asterisk there because he something teams now again we're not gonNA we're not GonNa do Sam snead but we are going to which we were to do it does what it is it's not slander it's it's contextualising what is that in the new age America they just gave out trophies everyone was that in one thousand nine hundred forty one more sixty two wins seven majors none of those guys are even close in the major department you even got it all the way down to like our good friend Mr Gary player who does have a ton of international wind so his PGA Tour for like more than just one major and therefore is fifteen majors like worth more than Jack Nicklaus yes definitely I mean that's what I think ah I know a lot of people would probably disagree or you know Jack Nicklaus stands out there but I it's not fair to Jack to count like Arnulf like from the pro tease he's got the greatest career hold on I know but father time totally been beating him down totally but like can strictly careers and golfing and all this stuff like tiger is the best golfer of all time and I think like now with eighty two wins fifteen majors and he's GonNa get more wins he came over to run the range before when they had the Monday playoff and was like what the hell you're dress exactly like me Rocco it's Monday I didn't think you wore red on Monday through Sunday those things did happen and tiger would have been just way past you had his like body not broken down and his personal life gone to shit it's his fault but like if he oh man now what do you think Jack Nicklaus could like shoot out there now I mean pretty old those inaugural tee shots are like you think he could break eighty he has more US amador's he won three amador's to Jack Nicklaus's too I believe so it's like you could see it okay they have the exact same number of majors but you also I mean let's think about this uh-huh than anything Jack hitting the inaugural shot and just walking up to the fairways scorecard his back pocket he's ready to go who's this tackle like you're just going to let them go say this too if he starts playing again you know our good friend Gary Player Planning Oh no way Jack's going out there with autumn has one of five people that has the career Grand Jack Nicklaus seventy three wins eighteen majors then you go down like Ben Hogan's got sixty four winds nine majors arnold in winning the masters after every pundit on the planet said that he was done is like at what point does that start to count for more than the three major gap really tall but there's some of these most wins of all time Sam snead obviously eighty two wins and this one me this was leading me to get to a larger conversation he then went and won the tiger slam all four majors in a row winning the US Open at Pebble beach by fifteen then winning like three weeks later winning the British open at Saint Andrews by eight so fucking Bark fucking Barbara he went back and you should come in so he he's fucking Barbara's bad news and then winning involve hall and a playoff then having an eight month layoff coming back with like all the hype and winning the masters to win four majors in a row having like the the broken LE- to I mean some of the things that tiger did like obviously Jackson and set some incredible records well Tiger Woods winning the masters a twenty one year old by twelve shots in the near future at some point even if he doesn't get the majors even if he doesn't get eighteen like tiger gets like eighty-five winds fifteen majors he's twelve more ahead of Jack and you know they would pick Larry Bird over like whatever Michael Jordan and stuff like that like in his prime but like Michael Jordan changed the sport of Basketball Tiger Woods change sport a golf so like for him but it it you you really have to like kind of wonder now with Tiger having the most tied for the most wins of all time and if you go through that list some of those are pretty do that he is going to have different things in his personal life and you know what I mean like he he experienced a different world than Jack Nicklaus did yeah so you have to like layoff him for wins like he was right there in the majors just had seven or eight years of just nothing you have to give it to him yeah I would agree with that and one thing I would say is I'm not going to be satisfied all this trouble that tigers gone through all the years that he had zero wins and didn't really even have a chance because that's because that's on him but like life ain't fair Jack and you know what these guys helped move the sport along and make it a prime time you WanNa Watch Jack Nicklaus he has all the majors he won all the tournaments but tiger woods change golf I think he can pry I think Jack home course he could price still break eighty no I guarantee you that I'm thinking of the masters a player he's going to he's got all these exemptions guarantee they're like Jack Nicklaus he's going to try and play again things are a little bit skewed because he played around the world I think he said he's travelled more miles than anyone else in the history of humanity yes he said that he said that to our face twenty six wins which no one will ever be able to do he changed a sport that no one else will ever be able to change the sport any sport right you know Larry Bird was an incredible basketball player some say like league winning the winning the US Open at Torrey Pines on a broken leg and like Tourney C. L. by hitting that pot and all the and then coming back eleven years later after like all the personal shit this is coming down eighteen N. Jackson in his living room and he just starts massaging his knees and Barbara's like throwing honey he's Dan measor dogs those years that he had zero I think because he was just experiencing more yeah I I agree on the planet which definitely counts is like a four thirty lifetime hitter Yeah Golf Golf is impossible to win it that type of rate they have right now and you have to give tiger credit and also allow him to have those years where he didn't win and didn't do anything because he was a tr- he transformed the sport the heat and then he fucking came and one the green jacket and he fucking came Cardi B. Little Cardi B. Quote Cardi B. and then he impossible so have the winning percentage up minimum two hundred starts tigers at twenty two bunch of guys that played in a different era Ben Hogan Byron Nelson Nicholas is massive for the sport of golf he carried it in his era with along with you know all the guys that he played against your personal friend I can't say Gary Player as well like these guys tell there's no one left who can say that Jack is better than what I mean by that is I need the majors to fall I need to get the nineteen because I do Ville is not even on this list it's not it's not a long list it only goes to eleven percent so yeah he's around like Jack Nicholson half the wind percentage of tiger woods so it's like pass county count you can't just throw that away him doing it in this era and all that right like Jack Nicholas wasn't even necessarily the biggest star of his Arnold Palmer was bigger if you look at it they posted this tweet I can't find it so I don't know the exact numbers but I know tiger woods all time win percentage and the PGA tour is like twenty two percent no one else is even close to that Oy like we've all heard ourselves or probably maybe not manscaping yourself in the most efficient way you may have caught your cell phone when Tiger Woods is playing golf he's foreign away the best golfers ever live essentially when it comes down didn't that's us that's worn away now there is you know you have to account for like longevity the property isn't over Jack is he's in the backyard just hitting against the wall just working on the swing in the rust out budget like reports above these never played the game whereas like so you could always argue that this whatever so longevity matters however I think tiger has done it now this latest era this latest like resurgence him the things that I think he's the greatest player of all time but I want I want all the critics to be psyche ties him he's he could still say without because he'd have more wins Yeah Yeah he's Jack's younger significantly younger and all that so eventually took over and then he started going up against Tom Watson all that but like but but tiger woods with the star power and everything's done he that matters especially the game of golf racking up over three or four different decades longevity matters that's the same in any sport like Tom Brady now racking up more and more being back that's why I put it on the TV A. T. Shirt that's why he has naming his book back go by the t shirts Doordarshan sports dot com I do think now he's done enough in this latest Jackson at like five percent or something Tiger Woods is at twenty two percent of the time right he's in the game of golf that that's they were saying that he's that's equivalent to turf shaving ball the odor and moisture already put on your armpits why are you not daughter on the smelly as part of your body right question up you might be bleeding I'd be real scratchy itchy because you blew it no pun intended ice on fire right now that's why man's gave does redesigned the electric trimmer there the philosopher Cardi b. then tiger woods came comma and won the green jacket coming Yep okay never see him out there like throwing darts silence darts into the silence you did he played great and there was just there is nobody cheering which was one support comes from manscaping who has the number one men's below the belt grooming manscaping offers precision engineered tools for your family jewels we'll all in that is you're using on your balls that's gross that's so true then thank you that's just nasty man's caved also has the crop preserver so I can put these things right on my nuts and nothing's going to happen or snag your nuts nuts in there they said snag your nuts it says the trimmer will not be manscaping dot com use the code four all right I was fun house that was really fun I enjoyed that tiger played on Saturday in front of no crowd that was interesting maybe get twenty percent off and free shipping with code four at Manscaping Dot Com year that you twenty percents off and you get free shipping you go to manscaping dot com use code hogs embarked on a leash it's been years these things these things are things cage need I need Jack to make a return win percentage on tour in tour history with a fifty four hole lead or co-lead and I think the minimum was like five attempts minimum was five yeah tiger just made S. lifting trophies which I think that that now has like put the like put the bow on it and we're not done yet but that will put the bow on him having the greatest career bowl and then the guy that was standing over by the TV just looked like hell yeah I put some of the stats that they were dropping the graphic fifty four hundred fifty eight for ninety three point one percent when he presented with a fifty four hole lead or co-lead thirty six hole lead they pull up just throughout the week anytime tiger wins this happens but it's always amazing tigers now twenty five for twenty five one hundred percent Trent correct yep I put a new calculator percent tiger is one hundred percent that's pretty good that's via Justin Rey on twitter shot it to him they had the very funny graphic of the highest walls way later is like adding to the legacy that will that will make him the greatest player of all time versus saying like if you're the best quarterback for a four-year stretch like that doesn't necessarily make the greatest I'm talking about the lawnmower two point zero will not nick or snag your nuts exclamation point manscaping accidents finally thing of the past don't use the same trimmer on your face Oh yeah nick or snag nut says right there got a dry the crop preserve what a name an anti shave their lawnmower tell me about this electric term it's called the lawnmower two point Oh frankie has proprietary proprietary skin safe technology so this trimmer will not towards the end of his round where he he put one like ten like five to ten feet away was a beautiful shot in you literally heard one clap just lead conversion rate he is ninety four percent of the time when he is leading or co leading I believe thirty six holes through term ninety four percent of the time he wins going into Saturday just that like his last memory golf wise wasn't of him like trying to come back two or three times and failing which is kind of where we were at and twenty-seven him putting on Green Jackets and the tournament hasn't even started to people that are watching at home. You know Saturday Sundays when you sit on your couch and watch some golf this guy while you're in your office and your weekend hundred percent twenty-five for twenty five closing fifty four will leads with three plus stroke lead or more the tour average over the last twenty years is just sixty six uber tiger woods fired to sixty three's he's leading the tournament on Saturday and he wins ninety four percent of the time that's set your the tiger woods who grabbed Shirley six hundred par sixty four five other players decided to local movie theater for an afternoon showing the lead he wins ninety four percent I think the tour average is like thirty or forty percent that is such a preposterous that he has good days he's lead and Sam Snead Henry Pickard Jack Nicklaus twelve while persona hand percent less than tiger woods in career winning percent what's fill out like eight stories now tied for the all time lead pretty funny story about Tiger and some of the boys going to the movies and into Domino's it says after storms washed out the second round of Zone Championship the joke always good until after the movie ended when the crew was told the tournament courtesy vans that drove them to the theater were not able to go back to the hotel the storms were so powerful roads were undrivable in numerous areas public transportation was shut down and no taxes are available so the Gang Tiger Woods Justin Thomas Jordan speed Gary Woodland bubbles aid since nineteen ninety-three minimum five attempts and like you said all of them on their have five except Kenny Choi has six and tiger fifty e still dominates the web percentage he's one I just say like in the middle of a tournament actually know now the fact that we know that he won the damn thing actually feel pretty good that he was able to sit through a three hour movie chairs you know sometimes my backs for always use the right tools for the job your balls will thank you you get twenty percent off free shipping with the code four at Manscaping Dot Com twenty percent off free shipping baton and Ryan Palmer I think we've had just looking at that we've had everyone but Jordan spieth that we've either had on the show we've had four out of six of them something like ever again never so again some of these stats they were just they were dropping their mind boggling and tiger woods has added to by winning eighty two times on pj just to that this is modern era shit this isn't like when you go back and like the twenties and thirties when only a couple of teams like I need played against three guys at different sports couples talk about these eras and phases and then oh five six times oh six eight times oh seven seven times oh eight four times Oh nine six times get twenty percents off a you're going to have your feet at the ankles by the years folks in the island we're back seems like frank always talks about the rangers we're talking about to that like late nineties and then into the two thousand where he we're golf as a thing people are like have decided golf can be on the show Tiger Woods we've engaged with twice and space is the only one spaeth we've engaged with but not everyone show along with a couple of friends headed to a nearby domino's his review yeah because then I'll be like I'll see tiger liked it tiger sitting in a movie theater seat for that long makes me a little nervous maybe gets up in the middle of it with fifty eight attempts and then it was Caja Joy John Dale Ken Green Jimmy Walker Mark Wilson all with five Caja Joy at six I'm sorry yeah tiger at fifty the eight and he's got a higher percentage than all he's got fifty four to fifty eight the fact that this is the route that they went with that staff is laugh out loud funny it says highest percentage with fifty four lead slash Coley xs just like delivering one of the most intense like crying scenes and joker tires on the side of stretching activating the gluts. Exactly what I think it's Justin Thomas from these guys variously spent a Lotta time with tiger at this point but I'm just thinking just sit in a movie theater with Tiger and I would I'd watch him I'd be watching him watch the movie Justin townes what was it like to go to the movie I haven't I actually haven't seen joke yet but I know all about it and everything and I just WanNa know what he what his mind thinks of that movie very funny if we if you've never seen him but you ask for Yeah I think I am when I'm asked him machine right now I got my phone was Tiger Woods like at the movie theater I will say this career people are trying to play it for a living teams they got they got this man kids are growing up at country clubs with Swing Code hundred ads were PGA pros there were no tables in the restaurant yet the group ordered six pies thing crossed in just stood there and ate them I like it walk into that Domino's in like you look around you can speak with the FA tiger woods what is happening is going on and I would love to know Tigers Review of joker what does he think of that machine ask them definitely me too I know it does that thing on the Tiwi puts his arms behind he does a big backlash stretch move as the joker as like walking fee it's like what what do you think you ordered at any

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