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Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones JrThank You Boxing GodsCanelo vs CallumOrtiz vs Vargas Preview

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Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones JrThank You Boxing GodsCanelo vs CallumOrtiz vs Vargas Preview

"Intended for mature audiences, the views and opinions expressed those are the panelists and do not reflect anyway. Those are the podcast partners, sponsors or affiliates enjoy. This is Michael Buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people look, let's get ready. For boxing voice. DOT, com. One. Later this here. Nella. Sandy that you could take picture. Bachelors, DOT COM. Welcome Back Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome back in. Thank you boxing God's. Yo I was super excited when it was going. Be Shannon a canon versus Tyson. But I. Think I'm over the moon with Roy Jones vs Tyson I know. It might not be a competitive one. To have to legends in ring at the same time I'm excited to talk about this and watch it the fact that. J. Paul is going to be on undercard embodied. Jack is the most. Out of this boxing world thing we've ever seen because first of all. It's an exhibition. Secondly you can have a real boxer on who's like really still active, and then a youtube boxer, and then a legendary exhibition. So that's just amazing. We could have just done show just on that, but obviously we gotta discuss. Virgil, Ortiz who's going to be? Taken on Samuel Vargas. On Zone so if you don't have disowned, get it back because they're back with some good boxing. This is one good boxing card of many to come. Obviously, we also have daily not as versus Fortuna. Show so you don't have his own used Lincoln to description and everyone of our videos. We got linked to get disown, and it doesn't cost you anything extra, but you favorite podcast gets a little kickback. Then we gotta be talking about God lead our in fact that it looks like more more callum. Smith could be the runner. Up or in the runnings for that can nullify, but there's a twist now. Tyson Roy Jones junior have stolen the Cannella Day. Really so there's a lot to talk about. I mean this is just really crazy. Does Cannella now have to get a real opponent? Can he still do Cannella versus Callum knowing that? Tyson and royal out there willing to still all at pay per view money, which the translates a zone money to right. They need those subscriptions. Then we have last, but not least we will be discussing Joel. Joyce's. Kind of tune up. Don't really WANNA call it that no disrespect to my manque Helen from Russia I believe in Germany while House well-shadowed Mideast UK. He'll know how to pronounce it when we get to him. And then you do blah taking on you know the Blue Pill Pfizer right so. He's dealt with the. Company that's the name of his opponent, but look it's all good. We're here to talk boxing number to call in one four to five, five, six, nine, fifty to forty one press one one time voice your opinion right here on the voice of the people who don't forget. You can also add Nestor Gibbs on skype to be part of the conversation from anywhere in the world, so yeah man, let's get this thing. Started and head on out to some of these co hosts talk some boxing. Who am I go to I any money. addio shortage. As Morio, keeping a short sweet letting, everybody know that it feels good to have a Thursday preview show like it feels like boxing's back for the last eight years Thursday I'm off and on. I'll say that, but definitely Thursdays preview shows and It's starting to feel like more boxes back, so let's chop it up. WHAT UP FELLOUS! The unified heavyweight show. You. Believing because. sit-on-the. Terrible. Terrible making straight. You would up on that guy that voice from across the point, I'm happy to be with you guys tbb family and is good to have like Mario said like no more Thursdays show. Man. Tyson Mike Tyson. Mad Roy. Jones and I've got plenty to say about it. I'm looking forward to that side to that topic to be honest and likeness said we also got Jojoy in action. Tomorrow is in. German do that cheese or Michael What this or vanish. so yeah that semen. Do me or would you moment? Pimple Chapman Endeavor. Alexander. A. Man I mean what's not to get excited. We Got Mike. Tyson back into action. Yeah, he's old, but I mean the stall and the fans that have been fans of Mike Tyson. I know they appreciate this. And he's fighting. Roy Jones Junior. You know it's an exhibition, fight Kamal Guys, but you know after that first two rounds. You just never know how much these guys can turn it up and make it entertaining I mean we gave Jake. Paulin K. asya chance I. mean why we we give the champs chance I, like it. I'm excited. And I'm excited for the Verge Ortiz Card in Indio California so yeah. Kick it with the FELLAS man. Call. You thought somebody was coming in. Getting US PUMP No Barriers stay I'm trying to add Ortiz overlay and It keeps playing a soundboard I guess. I got a remove the soundboard. Don't shots so. That that gives me some hard core. I season one vibes for real. Actually probably every fight night because at this point feels like. When wasn't that song in fight night? I was actually. The long loss oh yeah. I knew that he and His. Man, we've been attacked. The most visit Kim. Champion never been I'm the best have. been any. I'm Jack, the no one from talking. No one can match me. I. Got Back it up. That day get me high that they give me a little high this way longer than as almost three minutes. That's all bull listen. Let's get right into it. Tyson and Roy. They have an exhibition so much talk about right. Because first of all, it's own some at called thriller. What is that what's going on? Bro Like? Why isn't this on disown or like ESPN? And why is by Dude Jack Rumored to be on this? What the heck is going on for real because like? If by DO JACKS INVOLVED IN? That means Mayweather Heyman. Someone has to be more like did this happen? Isn't. Like the the real connection they've got with night. The Jake Paul as well 'cause. I do what involving that. Jake Paul. Versus Gibbs like Kind of fight on his own. I'm also surprised that they. The zone is I guess they bring Jake to fights on different ABC I. CAN'T I listen it? Yeah. I thought it was going to be Dead Guy, right? They're trained to branch out to a different audience and just bring in different people to download the APP and the Board Bravo's and matching up against different athletes from the NBA or NFL. That's that was was going to be there gig. Right so I'm surprise of that. Also real quick just so let you all know. Trailer is where the paper view will be held on September twelfth. It is going to be in California somewhere. Where's it going to be again? IT IS GONNA be in health. Sports Park in Carson California Sorry Dignity Health Sports Park in Carson California that sounds like a multimedia place like that. They would hold Friday night, light, high school, Football Games, but it's GonNa be Mike Tyson Roy Jones and they are fighting on Thriller T., R. I L. L. E. R. which is founded by the person named Ryan Hugh Ono Ryan Kavanagh met Ryan Kavanagh. WHO's? Relativity media founder, which helps me very little and understanding of that is because I've never heard of them but yeah guys. I, I really don't know what this in. It's also going to be a ten part DOCU series ear, the behind the scenes and prefight footage to episodes will be released each week leading up to the match on a get you for that monthly subscription before the actual so. This is dropped the ball on all APPS, not just zone I don't want anybody to point fingers at Zomba. ESPN is dropping the ball here, too, when you. Drop the ball laughing is just Neko a war between those new. Abstract, think because we have a trailer. We never heard I hear many, but it's more. It's more of a drop the ball when the huges at dozen get the Hugest Act. Home But data in get Mike tight like there's nothing more iconic than Tyson, other than I leave. Leave when it comes to boxing. That's how it goes. It's like Muhammad. Ali Mike Tyson now floyd's generational talent. This skips multiple generations and and yet look brother. I guarantee this thriller trailer. WHATEVER THEY GONNA get subscriptions Roy, Roy versus like how American is that? Roy Verses Tyson like who doesn't know those names. Get into the Super Cat. Go for the superjet big SUPERMAC says Call Me Mexico dominates. He does league. When we were doing Mike Tyson shows. Mike Versus Roy, and honestly when he said it I, think I probably laugh in now that it's like real I'm excited I'm. The APP I never heard I'm getting it I'll get it for that month. I'll tell you that or How do you spell that? County. The E. All. Trailer! As in a channel. Fund Be Edgy K. but but. All of us here at we said that we getting up and. We kind of like getting excited for to fight for the fight right but I I WANNA take you back to wile I'm going back to time in my life where I was like a young kid right and my huge Soka Fai. Forget so we football fans while we're GONNA, call it football as the real sport right so and my dad used to speak like a lot about a guy or Pele. In a does the name that equates to Mohammed Ali in boxing and my dad growing up. Is the greatest player ever is. This is that and in the early nineties I was like a young kid like you know eight nine years old. And that guy had like. An exhibition game and I was hyped. I wanted to see. Let me see that gap. Elise I watched again. My man was fifty years old couldn't bust the skins was trash and for me I was like that will. What are we watching? These guys know Goodman and these guys by Sudha Hainault whereas. Whereas my dad was hacked. We. Pursue police. It'll be in that same situation where I'm GONNA. I'm GonNa Watch that fight. They say hey, you know what this is Mike. This is Roy. and. That's what they're doing and my son. Know have them hype. Those two guys him saying those guys are legends of the sport, and it's going to see to order. Dude's not as fast as they used to be not with the right reflexes. And he's GonNa. Tell me when to get the real deal. Man, you know I. I WanNa see to unto Joshua. Canal I want to see in Ordos. Big names out live right now though. Maybe. It beats as you. That Mike Tyson is trash. You're going to have to live with it, but it'd be tells you Amir, Khan contrast. I expect you to spank real like if he ever comes up to you and he says hey coach. He coast to coast meteorite homeschooling. Under. Because me, coach coach. Dolt. Call me coach. Material Man. Maybe maybe maybe it's. It's It's not for that crowd, right? It's not. So. Crowded for it for us. The guys that are live fruit, those guys and that know what those guy used to be always it to attract like the new generation to boxing. I don't think that's the case because the new generation will be disappointed disappointed. Said youtubers for this is not. A competition would disown. This listen, listen what This is why I. Don't think that's what Midi was saying. No, no, no, no, I mean well at one. You're saying that one point we did say. I said he dropped. They dropped the ball design another APP companies. He said No. This is just competition, but. This looks to be very similar to. INSTAGRAM. Youtube with different. A different field, but let me just read what it is right so thriller. Entertainment Platform built for creators, so that gives me. The Youtube feel it, says social video community where you can show the world who you are by capturing fall is video sharing them in seconds, so that gives me the instagram field. Then it says express yourself in connect with content you love create amazing music video for trending challenges such as Drake Hashtag. My films challenge in many more that gives me the TIKTOK field. Millions lame millions of made thriller thriller of videos on the fly including chance the rapper Justin Bieber. Race Rimmer Rita Ora Ora, Kevin Hart, and more so this is just an endorsement. This is getting a big name to put eyeballs on the APP, but it's not. It's not like they're going to be continuously doing video unless they're getting. I mean not obviously doing video, but what I mean is the. Probably focused on. Fights or series, and this is more of a like. It's like a stunt its latest. What's? Your olds, what do they play fortnight? Right didn't try to Scott in and Diplo have like. Concerts on their something. You know what I'm saying. This is to me kind of like the same thing I. Mean it's not the same, but it's for the same purpose. They're trying to get these two names that. Let's be honest if you know who they are. Then you know that the fights not really worth watching from that perspective, but if you don't know who they are and you're. You're a kid or your younger. You're Young- twenties. You didn't get to really see Mike and you just know that mythological presence, and by the way because you've been on social media in the last six months and you've seen that every time might post something about him fighting. It's gone viral so this all started with like first of all real quick. Let me just make my point. This might have seems like it started with fifteen minutes of our five minutes of footage in last few months for Mike, but the fight between Mike and Roy has been going on for a long time. If you ever read James Prince's book, he'll tell you that they were supposed to fight. They were agreed to fight before Roy Jones Loss Antonio Tarver. So is kind of like all that coming back, but initially started off of social media buzz, so it makes sense that a social media APP wants to capitalize off. Capitalize. vestment though how do you capitalize investment? You're attracting boxing fans to a creators APP I'm not I'm so low the marketing. Trying to get rid of TIKTOK. Guys. I think dust the mother for all those like platform. Right so and we. We getting way too much into the. The the business model of those Apps, and all those things right, but I think that's what those guys do. They just like ride on the vibe of the moment. Get as many of you. All capital as well as much money, and they move onto the next big thing they don't get. They don't tie of into one specific things everything for anyone and everyone basically and that that's what their business models but forget that do you know? Why don't we talk about? Wait wait. This APP is official law. Look look at some of the things. 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You do that with thriller through the rest so yeah, and it's a four point seven star, so its functionality is go look. Good right. One point that I want to throw in there and take me ten seconds this selfish of me, but I'm actually really bombed that. Shannon didn't get it like imagine then following him for ten series and every Fridays on the show. You know what I'm saying like. That would have been so dope of. If that fight medicine get too busy for the show that that's true. That's true, but I'm sure we could've squeezed. I'm sure he would have came up twice. Go ahead, do me. You have I would've liked I would liked to. How would like Shannon I know? Roy's the biggest name. Love and attention. Inches compared. Right Minis. Uh Small compared to Tyson. Is Not more competitive now. Waffles they're much just like heavyweight for good for Rio Right. In Day fifty approaching the fifties and the frame of religions is not a small frame. Though it was like a tour, middleweight, super middleweight, so traditional Cain to the light, heavyweight and heavyweight as well wasn't. It is great to stints in the heavyweight health. Few fights there so yeah, no I? Don't think size would be a problem, but. But just to close on the odd thing I noted up will be official because you have like big names in the social in those kind of platforms in the Youtube World Jake, Paul involved. They want to touch them to some kind of like trashy APP. That doesn't have the quality right. He knows the game inside out. Is Part of the game is a big NAM there, so he fees involving there? I. Guarantee. You I will be official. Now, Man I like where you were going to like doomsday like how about the fireman? I talk to us about five talk to us about the head gift. Because that's the one thing that popped up in our conversation before so I didn't like that. I've read some only now. I'm hearing head. That's Corny. Gillespie Headgear Numb. Make makes it like so in that. Interview we've. On Thursday quit e clarified that I believe that there has to be headgear because the in California. They're going to do in California. I guess it's not going to be a pro sanction. Fight so has to be an amateur boxing fight and I think for their age. Probably enforcing them or forcing them to wear headgear, which is sensible to me, but it's going to take away from the imagery of it right. You have to season Bro. Let me spend. Spinning misprint. Let me. Do. You think it's going to be a more entertaining fight. Because the fight are going to feel like they. Can you know throw a little harder because they have the head gear on? You know! You gotTA. You gotTA. Give them that they were probably negotiating that way. And that matter like I, can't hit this guy too hard right without you'll meet your the fighters. Ask you this question, don't you think after years of being programmed to spar and not compete without headgear or not not compete with headgear the way you would without that? Maybe there's like a mental thing that would prevent them from leading. No Way. I wasn't saying that I was asking that. Yeah, no, because if you look at Mike Tyson sparring when he was in his younger days, I mean he, he would not guys out. All the time is borrowed. And they were they were. They would hammer him to he he he's been knocked down. So for me for me head again. The headgear is not a problem for the fighters themselves right? You know every fight like whether you're pro on metallic day. Use aspiring with the headgear on bigger gloves, and they keep that same intensity problem is we've the for the viewers right? So the watching the viewing experience is not the same when you're watching to legends wearing headgear straight away just reverting to your mind into spiring mode on won't get once you once you get hit right, I mean look like if you're spawning right many. And and and then you go fight under the lights. You know your reaction. It's totally different when you get. When you get a under the lights, you're like hundred percent killer instinct mode I'm Kinda. Get back mine. I got a defend and. Him with something as well so it's like who's really endanger. Who really has to hold back? Is it Mike Tyson? Roy Jones Roy. Royston yo Bro. Roy's Mcginn knocked out past his prime for a long Tom so like. If. I says anything left like in terms of power, and not even skilled, just in terms of power. I think dominion. He connects flush flush Roy goes to sleep, or at least you know. His legs lock up and he looks crazy gives them because if. He might not go to sleep sleep. I think Tyson sleeps now. If his haggerty really gonNA be going hard. I think they will go, because those are two competitive legends right so your competitor stay competitive at heart, so whenever you spiring Jim when you have the head gear and the gloves. You give it your care. What don't you think? If. That was the case like here's. Here's my rationality. Okay looks like. No No, no I'm saying if that was the case that they were going to be. Competitive. Don't you think that efforts would have been made to how to get distinction now now don't get me wrong. I understand there might it might be impossible. We don't know what makes us you know. Maybe he couldn't pass the test and that's going to describe. It, we're GONNA. Make it this fool out like who's better than who grudge match like. Wouldn't it be something that would make more sense to get the fact that it's an exhibition? I think it's going to be more entertainment than nothing. I'm than. That let me tell is going to be into ten men, because you have those two legends that are good in there, and in a they, obviously past their prime and way their prime, no just buster problem way bus their prime. But When you in the ring? You'll instincts takes over and I'm telling you. Those guys are competitive. They are people that have been up the top. They know that people are going to be watching. You know yourself or you know you saw Nestle Doomsday Wego in the ring. No matter who it is, we've we sparring. We don't want to give anything right. We just go so and no one can control that even if they see as an agreement before if I had all of this is what you're gonNA. Do when you India who's going to stop you from going and going for it. No one is going to stop you from going for except from the Rafic and stopping super. Finish. What they can do is basically. Shorten the length of the fight which they have. They've made it an eight. I think that it. Native. Show. was a very good, but our real quick. Have you guys heard from? Real quick, just big, super. Mick says my question becomes. How much is this gonNa cost because it does say pay per view, and if it's a pricey, if it's pricey, does out take the Charles back to regular shows on. No, not at all. This not compete with what showtime is presenting us? I don't even know well, not only say that about Leo but does. Journal papers. tend. To be. Ten Yeah, twenty! That's so. That's what I'm saying. It can't be something that competes with those on that price level like I'm not paying fifty, nine, ninety, nine, seventy, nine, nine, thousand, nine for this to defy the. There's no title there's no you can justify. It has to be like I'm GONNA say he's GonNa have to be priced the same way as case Logan, board, or whatever it's going to be a ten dollar type of you know type of. But do to get back to to the fight. Actually believe that Roy. On paper should be the. With the Fresher Roy actually had a competitive fight. However. You WANNA call it. Maybe it's not that competitive, but if forty two thousand and eighteen micheals unfold, since when two thousand and five or something omit even maybe. But that's why that's why. Roy is in fresh of Roy been getting knocked out for I. Mean I. Wasn't. Drunk. Retention and so. And Zoe Zone GRANOLA. But. You can read like a bunch of them off. Roy Jones Books Rick. And you would not know most of the guys like the last five guys foot I'll guarantee you that none of us election. Watch them outside of that fight with Roy. Maybe and I've even watch those fight. We've Roy like some of the the latest one after my chroncially Ivan, which Roy. Yeah. He fought on that. Your see APP against I think it was bobby gun from not mistaken and he hasn't taken L. and four fights ensued thousand fifteen. Who is Mike Tyson though also remember. No, you're absolutely right I'm. That's not even the point I'm trying to make the point. I'm trying to make is that I don't even know if I hold that as much against him. As the fact, that Kevin McBride in two thousand five was the last time we see Mike before that and he lost that fight in six rounds up. Into Danny Williams. He lost before that and then. Lennox Lewis was his last like really big fight that he lost the two thousand and two, so it's. A new if you WANNA, know my mindset. Go back to Mike Fight and just listened to the interview at the end of that fight. Right in the Reagan. Man I can't do this. No more I don't have the heart for this blah blah, blah. He chose you. Man. But that's where he's us when he coordinate your right. Now people. This is the new Mike Tyson you make. God's with fifteen years on top. You know. Those fifteen our. Time off, you know. Doing bad. Risk In the Benjamin Button Mike Tyson mending. Benjamin! Movie? Man Tyson attorney backs especially on Roy. Cyp I think he could to. Yanni to cut. Why did you cut dead? Bullish and miss quit talking about Roy Jones. Being getting knocked out, been knocked out once to twenty seven and thirteen fights, he got knocked out once thirteen months that ain't been getting knocked out and Tall Marbey. You have made the Cyp Hitler's good job talking about Tyson come back and be world, champion or I do have faith in God's I. Know I know you that show and when people have faith in God. We know you ain't getting a fight could Bush it. Let me, see if he. Saying. It's me in the chat with the different name, `save. Roy been knocked off. Tom's and last one was in two thousand. Fifteen Oh my God Eli ends Amac Grenell Knock them. y'All. Down Line, so you are done wrong. Ching you'll legends like the people that you love. You've watched them growing up your idolize losing those type of fight I don't WanNa. Just put Danny Williams down at least. Dreamt of busy Mike Tyson and happened Mike Brag never dreamt of beating May Tyson. If he dreamt of this. Wake up and apologize like your Muhammad Ali's it. But that that happened and then. Like I say I said Lebedev. He's going to go down as a good cruiserweight. About first ballot nine like that. But, but but you know Roy in his prime. We would have never thought Lebedev to slap them. Even though Roy Innis problem with probably never before liberty deliver. There was a cruise way, but he got slept there. He got slept by Danny Green Australian. Chew Choosy Amanda and Always reminds me of composition. We shoot days about us. Go right and. My Pond Dan was that an average activites today. Beats those guys that have retired ten years. Blow cool, and you know you can do that. Man a scholar. Just get the mortgage by a guy that you don't know that may be. Either though Douglas. Roy Real Quick So years and he ain't been a heavy way since the cameras fight well, you got to make some money because I- supermax in the background. Let Me Know Roy Jones opening is the favourite according to in Wyoming. Super make semi. On me, no real bed inside is going to be some offshore that we came. Make no money on is impossible. There's no was. We'll see. Out to see who he's gotTa. Miss Favorite I wouldn't have. He's a favorite wear. He's. In your heart. Your heart ill and it's and it might take a little longer to get not even in the shape, but to get just all his bearings back to them. Like Roy Jones has been still doing this at the highest level of course not and show. Me No hung up the gloves. That's not for me to. Tell you. Is that Mike? Tyson is so far removed from whatever we saw from him. In the last time we saw him in a professional ring. That I don't know how you couldn't in good conscious Roy, Jones. You know the. Bought the sleeve listen. I don't. Want to be understood. What I'm talking about is betting okay, and in that sense I would put money on Mike. Put, my will say you telling me that. Roy Joel's. Arts the favorite, but. I think that there could be money to be made, so it's like a different set. Even fifty fifty m up putting nothing nobody like. Are you kidding me I. Don't know what to expect might could go in there. Break a hip. I have no idea where Jones can go in there. Breaking on. On great boy listen all I'm saying is when Jamaal Charles Journal Charles in Rosario, come in the ring I expect something from them at the highest level, because they are highest level caliber type fighters, but when Mike Tyson Roy Jones junior come back fifteen years after they were supposed to meet originally. Ain't GonNa Monday on. Monday on Roy. Thank I'm telling you just because of the way boxing works right. Obviously, we know all of those in just back to all staff is right and take active fighters. When you see people like Mohammed Ali the end of the career steal activism professional goes in there against like you know. People that you know. Give him like a boxing lesson. I and mind you. They will like young fresh like the young and French. Now holds those too old dudes right, but I've got to go with common sense that tells me that Roy. Should be the favorite because of. Age and time and physical. We don't talk about them back in one thousand, nine, hundred five. We talked about them now. Twenty twenty. Word Word or you're absolutely corral. How does a vibration play? CREA STAMINA STAMINA. I don't even know what. Slate is, it works on you. Call Right, what is that? They do have. A, no That and then he's got like an engine, Darren. He just shakes an. Adult around you and it's like. All you can do like different types of exercises with that, but it's supposed to work on new stability, and you call right so because it shakes up and then. Trying to just make so maybe you know muscle, endurance core endurance, but not stamina. Real quick super. High. Roy Favorite Mike Old. Added the were for Mike An old pie? Yell Hilarious Dot, a Hammy laughing for real. No, I get it Yo. Cause Mike, Dishonest contract in the blunt like your word is more in the fight he's on. He was taking a pool. Nice e he did. Solicit Melissa. I. Keep telling you. These people smoke weed in run marathons. LOOK DS calls are it's called size called. Insurance. A lot if you don't believe him, just check out that guy. Goodness Gibbs on water was. An Asia's is duty. Days off! By Tyson though. Who put it you putting people done do come on. Don't plan on. Your. Trying to win this argument, he liked Yo Nessin is narratives. Roy Ain't losing thirteen fights and the only guy knocked out once alright. Let's have a little a little game here Max. Alexander raise your hand if you know Max Alexander What about POW Golob you ski. Lazinski. The I know that more than check them before initial. So when you finally face somebody who amy Yoda fact that he got slept by Enzo Dat should be. Racing Guy, no, and so the Ferrara. Nobody. Was a I guess like a legit at least like British group. Goes away out yet. Point in his life but. I wish. I, wish? We Roy. Seidman and I was sad and that's when I decided. You know that's it. That's over I. Don't want to see him again. In those type of competitive, my trump now, those types of fantasies fights I'm gonNA. Watch because I'm like a fan. I'm Ramin of that all time, and I want to see those two legend doing an exhibition, but like I said when open it does nothing for the new generation, the new generation will just be looking at me and telling me. What are you talking about? Those two all do right. They just make me feel like I'm some kind of or gay. Why are you acting? Like Mike Tyson hit in the midst like old man. Me You mean safe to. Look at Mike Tyson and look up to his dad and be like Dad. Who is that monster? Grow Quick Brooklyn. We got super. I mean a counterpunch from Cyp You leak. Fool drug combat drug combat. BLUISH IT, out. Hey, I want to raise your hands if what's means. In any language any language Mexicans out there we got. We got the Africans. Tell me of once means always in any language ness. You're lost this man. Let's just move on. Enjoy the show. She robbed out. I mean okay. Say on a technical aspect I guess I was looking for that. This and they do me. You know better than most than the meats, and all that ill looks nice. It looks like and Mike Mike Has Years of like muscle memory, and I'll to eight. To hit those midst probably and make it sound nice. It's not you average. Goes hit. Mid. We were hate him dog. Every time we. Ever since it was show old, do come hat. You don't want them to come back because I, love them. You know because I love them you. WanNa Watch them. Yeah, you WANNA which snake? disrespected. That's will happen like that. That's what happened with us, not view. None of us will do that. We'll be reminiscing and will be happy by. We'll do a little bit like a move moved to the side with the head, was he? Did you see that? Whole Mike, he liked all my. Next. You'll be looking at as we talking about that. He almost broke his hip trying to. Asia. Him? You? Know what I mean and that's what it is. That's the reason why I. You know our watch it because I love this. In a way I don't want them to be in there with a fresh younger fighter. I'd rather them fight at this stage and give us that exhibition. That's nice. This a little bit of competitive. Much of they'll give us what we need. But Man Dan. Competitive. I think Mike Walks them down, Mike. Mike is a killer, and this is I. Fight Back! He got autumn interviews about under lights and having them know how to perform this. No way that he's going to sit there and play with Roy and let Roy last heroin no! Better walk as low as down and say you belong here. We got a super chat firms James Kelly. I'm a fan of bullfighters every every loss, but the last tarver fight. It was okay. MIC IS GONNA go all the way out watches training at fifty three years old devastating. We got another one from big supermax. The master mom. Says this'll inspire the Trinidad to Mexico Domino's has spoken and get that win back. No, I haven't seen Trinidad gotTA. Talk into the MIC. I haven't seen that in a video like looking like he even like boxing. Me Neither. W boxes. But I meant to say twenty years ago. Let me. Let me address like a comment in I, don't I? Don't think is a is a journey, but he's talking about. My thing may still struggle, said he. I don't know if you guys. Nobody's talking about horace. Goku Goku. Jitter and he's saying Roy religion is good. Who Never I saw an Tashaun. Strays. Roy. Soup and salad and Tyson goten. Tyson is like my right. Boo Boo Boo. Option. My Gaze Magenta just as bad management. It was always. The odd man. I'd! Say. Listen. Let's talk about the promotional video I. I really wanted to play. Someone put a little clip of it in chat I gave you the Youtube link. Thrill thriller has a has a Youtube and they have the full promo. It's only a minute and twelve seconds long I'm also put it in chapter. Anyone who hasn't seen it and it's pretty good production man I'm excited to see one of these boxing writers doing article and let us know who was the director. amulet be interesting if like Ross Greenburg from old school show Hbo because this video looks really well. Put together the way. They got roy there and he's sitting on a stool and he's like. You see his ties and look at his biceps, and it's like damn. You know they're selling. The David and Goliath and he literally says David and go I'm you this David and Goliath story I'm going to bring in the the giant all I got his God and that's how I like it. You know you know I love it I. Got David and Goliath rare for many many many years. So that's I I love this. I love everything about this. They already started promoting the fact. That these old dudes right who society likes to say that we don't have a handle on social media and technology. These old dudes took to social media. y'All Tyson. My hero smoking a raw cone signing the contract like that is. Legendary for me. I'm like really. When's the last time your favorite fighter signed the contract? Alleys exactly like. How could you not rob with Mike Let? ME. And it's one of one of you mentioned it before when I was still can right what I do like about Migrate Model, and a new in a ways token is is energy when he's when when I spoke to make What's his name? Kellerman, am Mexican. Mexican woman was trying to downplay this and trying to just question him like along the land I am doing right now and just you know. He came back with that energy in his voice. That will tell you that listen. Let me do what I WANNA do because I can do it, you know it's not because I'm fifty plus years old. I can do it, and I'm hungry, so I like that. Because it's inspirational. And motivates everyone is not the might that made that interview at the end of the McBride Fighters Eight Am Doug and. As the MAGNA is hungry for, but he doesn't make a difference though I can tell of. You know what we're going to see in the ring. It's good I hope we see like a good. Deterioration you know took control. With fifteen years. If, that's true I didn't even count them, but if he's been out of the ring that long broadwood ends two thousand four. Whatever was wrong is is is okay now. That's over first of all. He's in a different place in his life man. He's in the La- Shannon Briggs when we talked to. He's in a different place. You know they got different wives. Now it's different support systems I agree. I Love Them I love the I love the energy. Bring I love like the I'll take the have on boxing, but the reason why the getting reason why Shannon on getting the fights that he wants is because. People we've like were sanctions those fights. Komo wave the logical arguments. CEO Shannon I love you I. Love what you telling me, but I call have like your half on my conscious, the British of controlled I believe. You know refused him like refused. Shoe fights like maybe two years back for for Shannon just because of that right, they worried about said. Many this just goes to show the boxing. is something that's forever and. You know dissolve on someone. ESPN. Thriller. They need to invest in a in a in a seniors. League may just call it the main. Oh. BACKFLIPS! To. Do that's what Tyson is trying to do is obviously he's fight will be part of it, but when I listen to him, he's saying listen. I'm trying to bring like a concept that is called the legend leak, so he's not talking just about his fight. Say it's open to everybody, not just with regards to boxing, but for 'em may for basketball, and he said a few things that would you wanNA see like? I didn't Iverson going one on one of the half court against. Rugby. If basketball. Find right things like that and I love that and. That concept exist again in soccer. Right in soccer you have. People like. The expert in like skills like and that's kill. They'll never lose. They do crazy. Thing that you know even when they sixty years old and me as a twenty year old I'll never be able to do. And I WANNA watch this and I wish this. But you know we've boxing slightly different because that we kind of heating people in the face man. That, that's the different aspects to see. Why would a super test says brain in a better place body in the worst place and I guess he's talking about Tyson. Man Listen. He's been in worse personal. There's no facts. On this, but we all seen that that. Bob Marley documentary man. He was diagnosed with cancer. They told them amputates flee. Chelsea I WANNA keep playing soccer and just kept smoking for men. He more years to come before you know. It really got bad for him so I say all that to say that maybe the weed out this body. Scope Football School football nece. Football so that's what they call it in Jamaica, football. What ever else young? Office I was watching the episode stray hunters today, and they basically try to insinuate this saint. Vincent supplies all Caribbean I never even knew that. Or even thought of that. Could that be true? Yes. Yeah because. Insane Vincent I mean same same legit as Jamaica. 'em On. This Jake Paul. All I wanted to act job because I don't watch basketball whose duties he's fighting against. WHO OPT! Do He's playing by. Have a one on one. What's My man's name? Though I never heard of him? He played for the Knicks. Is. I think he blamed for the. Famous yeah, he was a really good. Point four million followers famous. Damn that ain't that ain't that much that ain't that Monet's all-stars if I'm not mistaking several. New York, Knicks been around for like one Hundred Years Brussel for you only have two million follows Kinda wack devante. Weather promotions juice came out and he got a million, but you gotta understand that Nate Robinson was drafted in two thousand five like he's an older place thirty six right now, so it wasn't like he was popping on social media. You know what I'm saying like thirty six about the feed. I'm Jay, do we? Were, you think that a professional athlete? overtired at thirty six. This is a professional athlete If this do. Ain't been boxing. Jake got the Head Start Hell Yeah I love. Them I love them border wars, Feis dues. They never four Brigham on you. Know. They got an advantage man. They got an advantage on them. Already. Unless you tell me, my man been working out and he's. A World Class Athlete, if probably whatever you're. Jake is done. You gotta give the edge. The nate can do or accomplish shorter amount of time which. Is Different From boxing. Let. That is a work that. I understand that and I. Agree so you know they have things that you won't have to worry about him. In terms of like how to work on his power work on his endurance how to handle the nerves and all those things, but the reality and I see that or time I see that through people that come from paying football dodgers going to the gym and they think that. They can automatically translate their after teases. To books and they get, we'll by guys. Auto ship, but he does know how to manage. This I don't know that guy. Maybe that guy knows everything about boxing I mega just. Make a judgment on that but if you call books is just. SEATTLE. WHO's this guy? This training them coach? Many you know him as well. I G is the tank. No for Nate Robinson the MIDTECH, the Midtech Institute of Boxing Founder and owner of dope dopamine boxing, supporting the pro pro. Yeah I'M GONNA. Go right now I just want to say that my bad I just looked it up. He never made the All Star game. But yes, that's what I remember him. In is dunk contests. That's what that's how I remember Nate Robinson most is done contests. How tall is This basketball player? Is Five nine. Oh, man, ain't jake six feet. Short. That's what is instagram profiles is. First of all zone while and slipping up with this. Now. They tried to be this design. They trying to be the Netflix sports. I. I don't know. Jay got his start or or or his not start because he started himself on Youtube with the with the Youtube pay-per-view, but but he transitioned to the big television networks would disown day. Let 'em they let him slip and this. Is Jacob has like a legit like pro license because he had to get one to fight on. Against, so, what does that mean? Is that fight going to be a pro sanction fight? That will have to be. `exhibition could be an exhibition because Mike's Exhibition. Yeah Man. Wow We. Chat pro we got. You say okay. We got a super chat from. Stephen Chicago that says. We are here to see fights. If you WANNA fall in love, go to a dating site. What are you talking about many, would you which was falling in love it? I. I like Steve They. Keep keeps him chatting as the nostalgia. When you said you don't want to see you guys get her. Maybe that's what about James Cutting. The Super Chat says Mike. Mind is like it was when he was young. He feels he didn't accomplish what he wanted to so. That's Wise Bat Champs. I love it I love it, and he feels like he feels. I hope Shannon comes on tomorrow, I really WanNa talk to him about this and see we. Remember. Joe Is big news. Guys real big stuff that I'm you know. He had to talk about I. Wonder What happened. Man Fell through. You know probably trains. Jake right! I mean. No no I thought he was training the other. He Trains Logan I'm. Really TRIMs debuted. He did say on a show that he thinks he can really fight was going to say something. man who said something I didn't hear you though right after I, said man I hope. Shannon comes on tomorrow and you said Mario but I couldn't hear you. Maybe, that was what you were thinking. No I was GONNA go there, but don't do it into new. Don't don't don't know. Yeah. I feel like not even switching subjects like there's nothing bigger than Roy and Mike, but I mean topic number two for those that are interested in topic number two is Virgil Ortiz he's back in so as zone and yeah, if you don't have zone, don't forget. You could use our link. It's right here in the. Comment section below not compensation, but yeah I guess it's the description right, and you'll see it in blue hyperlink, and you can go ahead and use it. Don't cost you anything extra, and you know you hooking up your favorite podcast, but Virgil Ortiz junior is back in action. Shots dissolve for salvaging pre. Pandemic fight which you know shows that you know we, we can't say hey there. They don't have the money. They gave urged the fight that he was supposed to get. And it's a good fight. You know four Virgil specially doing pandemic, but in the welterweight division all the other worlds as we talked about it this morning. Or yesterday there like taken in an emmy take, and that's what I was gonNA tell you wasn't here. You mismatch breaking news DEMARCO gotTA. Deal with top. Were Hobby. His first fight is nodded. The no may May. Magdaleno is fighting about it for that vacant title. The Chicago moved left. In. Sleep other teams. Chat says if Roy lay on the ropes. He is done. were. Diane done. Yeah, he's done. Definitely begins in the shaft Keok Brown first round first round stoppage. Tyson a hit. Do Rounds Bra Tyson ahead around man. He takes his dude out Roy. Win Round taking them out. Bro We get them. DAB ties in one round Wola voiceover over. What would people say after that? You WanNa talk about poor verse. Come on Virgil. Verge. Yes! Yes, absolutely, you're right. We Need A. Good fight I think the destroyer. Is it a good thing. I like the. Go ahead I'm sorry. I like oranges as Vice I. DO believe that. Is the next Duda. No one four seven in the next night. You know a few years. We're GONNA be talking, about. You know raining another division, and if not transitioning to the one fifty four, so that fight is fighters going to show US something but I don't know if it's like a atop fight right so it's a fine that we expect virgin to win right so but it'll kind of do like music expected to get pushed, but I'm I'm I'm I'm saying? He knocks him out I. Don't really gets Bush yeah. I don't think boost either I. Know. How did how Danny Garcia do with Samuel Vargas? ME If I go into the. Loss obviously Tko. I don't remember the round, but it was by knock out. It was a stoppage. I remember I know. He stopped him short. Let me see. Monica is you gotta run. Tko Seventh. Yes Oh to me. You Got Louis clause was last or no. No I'm sorry. So Silverado, Ortiz. In in Canada was his last macworld world, did it? He lost laws. The Earl Earl didn't enforce so this is like I said with Devon Haney this afternoon. About Gamboa's make a statement, did it in four Danny did it and seven. Some of those better do a bit. Con Con win the decision. Hey. Yeah! You got wires. It was a wipeout. Yeah, because he aiming statement. Statement argues one like one round. Round eight. Seconds. Second. If, you say so. Late in the second condie. It entergy. Again with a super chess says how about Charleston Rosario. When Derek Lincoln comes in and says Y'all think Mike in First, round we heck, you're how your body Joe. Get made for your body. Crazy Mike Tyson is a full-fledged heavyweight I. don't care. How old is Roy is just as old and he still never been Mike Tyson Roy always was good off. ATHLETICISM and reflexes. Mike is still a puncher like me. Tina Go. They say on a fighters. They power, so it ain't gone yet, but Derek you said Derek Lincoln I apologize, I'm super surprised that they got roy as the favorite. That is nuts. And I don't understand how that as a surprise Mary of though I guess. Now because technically speaking Roy's just in a real boxing match two years ago. If Mitt he's right and Tyson ain't been in for fifteen years. That's insane. That's a lot of time out of the ring, so I could see roy been favorite. Just because they like Yo. At Lisa's mechanisms, like his mechanics of the game are still there. Your Tyson been in the ring in that law, and that's a long long time, but I still believe a heavy way versus a slowed down. Fighter 'cause 'cause annoy. Out Without his speed and agility what is Roy? It isn't as it's not just about the fifteen years wet, is they even before the few fights that he had before that Mike hasn't been in like some kind of like real form, since I want to see maybe ninety seven. You know what mean. Defies in two thousand and two against Lennox, it wasn't the real Mike was Mike that we wanted the fight against any. Williams was magnum. We wanted the fight against by by. Bride is definitely not might not. We wanted so. He's just like fifteen years like extra five years. When Mike Wasn't the guy that we work, you know we know Mike to be so come on man. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about the truth. Of what can happen in the ring for that much time leg? Not being your prime read so I I mean I don't know man. We got another super chat from D.. F. D. S.. F. G. Thirty eight outbox longtime listener. The show says to a versus Tyson a fantasy fight becomes reality. Get interviews with doer to a to consider versus Tyson also Roy versus behalf three. They better keep your word also Oscar versus Tito to and for my fantasy fight entertainment Jamie Foxx Tyson versus will Smith Ali Yo. Yo Yo Yo. A fight to get that aggression all right now they should offer will a fight right now? Brought? Come on, that's perfect oster. Also you know in doing promo for the for the for the movie for this movie your, but we got another one from de as he says. Tyson and Joan supposed to fight on the same day as Cannella. How does that were brought? That's powerful. That's like we doing our own thing, but but that's taken subscriptions from zone. 'cause some people you know. Some people are cheap. Look I'm not I'm not even when I've been broke I never was dude like all ten dollars can't buy Tyson ten dollars at a of U.. N. designed like that's crazy to me, but I got friends. That'd be like now burly. I'm always a Hawaiian. How you going to do it in this community knows. I used super. CANELO FIGHT AND All of his stay like that I. Do. I got ready got one. Which one would live which one you just put it on. dvr Nice. Watch in live Bro. Probably is on honestly. Which one I will watch and were laugh fight share on Tyson I. Smith Overcome Nello. Smith Tyson is iconic I. Guarantee You I got more views on my Tyson. Live fight chat than doing my pillow, Boring asked myth who the hell is. GonNa Miss Commitment. Lives. Change Kelly Mike is a technician and explosive. Mike Punches every part of the body. It hurts it. Does her you absolutely right Games Kelly with another one says. Cao's CHARL. Did you get Kevin Hail did you get Kvant. Or cover a cave on slim. Slim says Roy all day FAM. I'm sorry. I missed that one goody Roy all day all day royal day soon everybody comes back. You know what I'm saying when it when it happens and and this. Is these. Listen to me. We did busy. We did busy. Be Say he was. Charles Oh come on, you know Charle. A Bee's Rosario got lucky. I guess we didn't do this I. Don't think. I Charles Chant. Come on, you know a beasts. Rosario Got Lucky Bean. A lucky I still got. Bite I. Thank. My, honestly, come on, come on, let's be real. You're going to tell me that that more people not going to be interested in Roy versus Tyson. Over. Land you how to build up by this. How you do that. Fight Party right there. Okay, you got both fights right? You keep it on until Mike and Roy come with eight round fight, it'll be over and done with before Roy before can alone Smith even into the ring. You can watch them both going to put the main event together. Now we know does all we know this home. And Way. They did it with, but that was USC. That's a fair point, but it was already been reported that Canelo as being moved off that September date, and they were talking about December that was before any of this was announced. No, I wasn't. Even I wasn't even going after is going to be smart, right? There's going to be smart and just try to pick up people at the hype of watching leg. You know, Mike Most. Jones and then they can find just after that so that people can a switchover to to zone out us how they do it anyway, but. Who knows man? Hours even. Though I like. My residents Roy. We've Laura Solution later dissolved guy playback all day. That's the whole beauty zones. On demand, we see that later. A. They got the time on that card no right. Bech in this what I was trying to say to tomorrow, you know. He took it a different way I'm talking to my data. GonNa. Tell me when when Cannella didn't fight at the scheduled time. They made us wait at that Arena Bob was there for like two hours while they watch UFC. You know so so why won't they won't? They won't Kerr up like. Fighting dogs and you know be like. Yo, you go, Tyson Roy legends you go first and we'll piggyback you know we'll show everyone your pay per view like we did with the UFC but real quick. James Kelly says Tyson is going to punch when Roy Punch. That's how solvent. And got him. That's smart that's smart. Did so yeah. The the. I wonder if they see if he really pushes four legends league. I do WANNA. See Tyson to because I've been so tired all my life of people you know what I mean talking about how to was so good and and you know they wish is good. Though a Bra. It was always that like Oh. Tyson and it's like Yo- just give them the fight, so he could sleep them. Well, he was sleeping cats. Go, find each. Assignment, that was their style bike. Their style would have been interesting because to start stuck. It Dude who likes to accent level at. That was going to be interesting. But in the prime, make our old favor Tyson. Did you see this super chat from Jason Rosario. Cao's Charles yeah I read. Our. Free I've been afraid to say that because like I'm with people like you get knocked out by Gallimore. The knockout Williams but we've seen Jamal knockout. Williams, like how good is that win? Year Year Williams? Look fantastic verses. Heard. It's like y'all you don't know Rosario Cop for real man just. And he's got to find the perfect fight to offer for twelve. But it'd be tricky for childhood saw again. Everyone very high on child who I like one sixty Jeremiah a bit better than. but Once again I'm not going to be very popular. I'm not hyped on those to do that and I think they they will find a a tricky against people like was, are you I don't give Jamaa Jamaa. The window to magically and I can see Rosario winning. You know I can see that happening. Well, if you don't know me, I'm the type that I like to make the picks. You know much closer to fight, but right now. If I had a gun to my head on picking Carlo I think that's The, safe route for sure, but but here's the thing okay in that rematch with journal Kadhem what's his name with? With the rematch. Would Your Mel? Tony, Tony Yes okay I. Ford. To look at Harrison and he was, he was having to fight any ways to D- afforded very few mistakes. That's a really dangerous to fight against when when you're not allowed to make mistakes in the ring without the other person capitalizing in full, and that's what happened in that rematch. Rosario has to fight a near perfect fight I think so answered that for me like so, what did you? How'd you do a Red Harrison before the I. rated. Did you give? You rated in Jewish as like a is going to be one of the top name in the division. Along. GonNa give him like that kind of. At no Justna I, but also the second on that tells you that tells you where to. Charles ranked to be an. That's what I see them. dudes approaching thirty years old, if not bolted. We've close to thirty five, if not more than thirty five and still not like very top top name on their resume and mocking them. I've seen them both of them in tricky fights against like. What we'd like to go, be blessed. Visors OBEEF I. I can't even hate on you you. You're right. You're right, you know they like like us. 'cause before Harrison be Charles. I promise. You ought to me, saying like he gases the. He's Chinni like something's always wrong. He's always winning. The fighting gets knocked out. Down with. Harrison's Mo until he finally got the win. You know what I mean, he. Oh, he was always winning by and then got knocked out I. Think Willie Nelson beat him. You know same thing he was winning knocked out he was he was beating her knocked out in an I mean he was beating Charl knocked out my. Man We are all over the place on this show, but. We haven't had on. Show like this. Super Chats because they're piling up, got who Kelly says, they should cut the pay per view cost due to the pandemic. Well, what does he was Bob said that they were GonNa plan that Bob Enduring One. It's it's everyone else doing pay per views change. Kelly comes back says. Is there a way I can call in of course James let me. Put, that there, but the number to call in his right across the screen. And this no disrespect to you, James. This is just like in general. I never understand like literally now ever since we've been doing this show this way, there's a ticket. They literally goes across. The top is just as like join us on Patriae, dot com forward slash to box invoice, and then it says it's on right now. Oh once or Five six nine five to ten days. It's always on a thumbnail. Sierra there at the top call in Thursdays and Sunday seven PM Eastern. We go live. Every Thursday and every Sunday were also live every Monday through Friday at nine am. In the morning. Eastern time eight am central six am west coast two PM. You Kate's on the number to call in his one, four, two, five, five, six, nine, fifty to forty. One now, James if you want to. In you know, have a better coal experience. You can use skype. It's a free APP on both android and iphone. You can create a free account. Add Nestor Gibson be part of the call that way and never have to suffer with the. Of blog talk because it is not. As stabilised skype that being said. I JUST WANNA. If you're listening for the first time, way that Thursday shows go is usually we go down the list of things in the YouTube description. You know we're gonNA talk about the fights coming up on Friday and fights coming up on Saturday. We're going to briefly. Discuss the Callum Smith Canola stuff and then we got a few notes. As soon as those are done. We go to calls. That's your time to get in the calls However you could also like Mr. Cyp counterpunch just like he's got right now for the second time and cut it line that way and cut the line. Right CYP counterpunch. These narratives together for one HAIRSTON was not winning the second child of five before he got knocked out i. was in the crowd. Check the fissile scorecards. He was not winning and Midi. Don't make sense. Where was was Zadi, Oh was. Ranked but for beat before he beat out. Because what you're saying, don't make no sense. 'cause we know. He was either, but he's still wasn't as hard as Harrison was. Resolved with the right, this is hair through woods before both of them got a big win. So that does not diminish trello with all. It actually makes the argument trash, but that polly of your head you get what you said, but anyway you put your money. I was happening after my money. Though me and you, we got bit. Let's go. Lisa. You've. got. To be I, don't know, but you know like I told you. told you I believe that those guys get the both of them like both of them. Get tested by people that we consider. Be Plus opposition okay. against some dough. That's what really matters. Against them when they get to a class position does what I'm saying. You know so right now I'm just saying that they are always in A. Tight fights or fights where we can give an argument for the opposition when we consider the opposition as people that we've never heard of like before Rosario and That might go. See Wipe head, but you know hey. Quick! Rogue. Great great real quickly. We got a super chat from our Jones either says so. We act like Rosario defense a suspect because that's right on. Right on top listen. A great fight. It's a it's a terrific fight. It really is like I don't see how anybody can look at it and think that it's not. A great fight and great fights get tested. That's just what happens. Harrison was not winning that second Charles Fi. I don't always agree with you are, but he was absolutely right, but there were moments in that fight specifically early on where Harrison. Look good any started to kind of mimic some of the good things that he did that I, but he couldn't hold it together. Because Journal made them pay any time. He deviated from that plan. He paid for it and that's that's dangerous person to fight and so Rosario it's me has to fight the perfect fight to win that I. Don't Think Journal does. He could make a few mistakes Yo. You Know My. Old On I had a conversation with Robert Ortiz. We all know Mona Panel for those that don't know Robert Cheeses. The drummer from escape, the fate longtime listen those already been almost nine years i. think are more. That are know but He really liked to quick hits, and he thinks that we should implement that into the show. Kinda during the debates and topics right this way. We don't drag out, so it's like idea. Put us on a Automa-, you know to kind of get points and keep it. Flowing but. have. You noticed real quick. I didn't make the format like Sunday. Show I want Thursday and Sunday to be different, so there was no the UK. There was no quick hit sight, but I do think wickets could should be there. He I mean I think that we can use it style though on topic one two, three four. It's not the be long winded, but LV slug with a Super Chaz says stop it hurt Charles Stop. Hurdles ideal has stay tuned. You crazy man. He does not looking at Rosario like he's a fluke man. He's not. But but Guys and to Josie, who several sorrows defense suspect! It AIN'T US bay. He took risk in that fight that got him the wind. Well. You also fights. One fight! You're going home saying it's. I'm saying well. You gotTa Watch the gala more fight. We gotTA. We got to see what happened in a gallon. There's more fights out than just his big win. I think like you know. Hey, he's not maybe like the. Defense the first front of his plan right so I think you can catch him for sure it is I. Don't know WanNa could suspect, but they are flaws in his defense and. Can! Absolutely. I'm sorry, man you would. You got these UK pauses. Man, I'm sorry. I. WanNa talk over you I'm just like trying to. Go? American Griffin thin like. I think I was GONNA. Say I wonder if Rosario winning right because it's three belts, you one you drop one you know for whatever reasons you don't deal with, you know. Samson doesn't deal with the B.. But. It's three belts like does that not make you better I know we've heard interviews like. Oh, you want to become a champion. You're eighty percent better, but I mean it's. It's three belch like and remember usually. The title shot isn't the payday now. He's in a fight in a unification for real money like you don't think he's GonNa Train Hard, do you think is going to be harder to lose? Does that come into play? Is the skill of Charles just too much for someone's will. It comes to play, but like both of them going to be on that. When you talk about like fights, the top level I both of them in a comb, a motivated, both of them know what it takes to dig deep. That becomes less OV- like a deciding factor in a in a fight, and our tend to go for skills more than just punching, but what I'm saying. Is I yes, I recognize the skill of the Charles, but not as mad as people who go for them and say know that true skills in the top of the top I. Don't think that in Tokyo offering they'd just they be plus plus dying to be able air fighters right so. That's where. Gimmie three fighters in their respective division. Beat each of them. I one sixty like four Jamal probably the easiest thing to do. I have. been joyfully stead at one sixty will be. It's Jamal I have people GOP Jamaa off. Canelo they'll be Jamal so those aren't the free fighters, so wait a minute. And I still need Jansa for for for Jamal. Diminish trick you don't WanNa, reconsider g beating Jamaa. Derby and Cento did. trip. Okay so gimmie three the. Pool and for him. It's like it's harder. And I. Don't know if they beat him for sure. That's what I'm saying I think they just be. Fifty fifty kind of fights add on no I. Don't know what's going to happen. We've heard you know what I mean I don't know what's going to happen wave even. Think a man right, but. The Smith Brummer. You know I don't know if. Those we've Smith. But I know that one sixty now. As. He moved up to six hundred limited busy. Thought! He'd been moved up. He got gotTa Rankin Wpro want fifty four. Things one fifty four. Gives him like tricky angles, and you know so again. It's not definite like in his division because I feel that more fifty fifty five for him, but I don't classify him. Like straight to Jamila is doing it with those guys for sure, so those are kind of the Nando. Put out there. All right I think we had a few super touch. One from mad says I got banana versus Carlo. Too Big and motivated. He is huge if he could rehydrate properly. You know it's funny. They're focused over there too right because before. We knew this fight happen. Obviously just got broken yesterday I reached out to her. Let me see when I reached out to Herman and this was strange to me, but I didn't understand it. But I you know whatever now I get it. Super Chat from mad bent against us. Harrison was winning. The robbery was in play. And then you got Boston Jarrett comes through, says of Germany has comparable timing and power to Gallimore then he should win convincingly. y'All fighter, a beating fighter be don't really mean you know seagoing win, but I restart or Herman? By Wednesday July eighth, so that was. You know weeks before. Selena to. Transform John Boston because I is true. What you said last night fighter AIRBNB and facing seniors, and it doesn't always work in that equation, but what is saying he's talking about the game plan attribute is saying. Demolished just give timing onto a t. m just like negates. The offense of Rosario, then it should be woken that Franson I can see that happening also an alighted those kind of analysis right because it is not just like simple obedience out. There will be back with a little bit of like technical analysis. Are we going to talk about Verge Ortiz Nice. We did already bro. Okay. We all canal dog. We own Guy Male Oh man i. Just want to live liberty. No shame. Moseley Juniors, also fighting on the card. Jessica was taken off the car which is. which is a note down there at the bottom I? Think I. Put it on there. and it's. No actually did not. Know Yeah. His fights scrapped completely. They took Donna how to put that on there, but I guess I. Forgot He scrapped because just as out. Damn? Forgot what he's out with now, but he's out. He's not gonNA be able to make it, and they're just taking on how to off the card and indefinitely Astrada and Jackie Calvo are fighting in a female junior flyweight. Natch should be good to see Estrada again. definitely a fan of hers. Hector Vol Dez is also action and somebody named Evan Sanchez who not very familiar with Both of them are fighting six rounders. Hector. Valdez the bantamweight pretty good fighter Probably haven't seen more than about two fights of his in Evans Sanchez first time seeing him and then we still do have to talk about the ESPN fights on on on Saturday in London Joe Joyce in a big one but I. don't want to move onto Kamilo. That's fine. We can definitely do that, but I definitely think that Midi should at least tell us something about Michael. Walsh I think. He pronounced it right. No I got that I got that for topic number four burqas. You did throw. That's why I did it to three. And then the third one is the fourth so I. Just I just numbered them wrong. Yeah no and I put. I. Put the Frank Warren stuff for four so okay. If, everybody's done I mean if you WANNA, make a pick I mean. I'm going Virgil I'm going Virtual Moseley Estrada. And I don't know who haven't Sanchez even facing so I'm guessing. I'm picking him. All a side. By side. Buff. These lake because we getting a generally for the the coverage. They actually good for making sure that you can bet like really hundred two hundred dollars, and you're gonNA. Make some return. If you just go for policies and stuff like that on the side, short money moneymen and I've been doing. It's successful. Madonna, argument window with a supercharged says. Why can't big Charlie get those three fights Midi? Why Coney get them. I don't know if he may gap maybe win because you know. You said he can't win. Win Against Canal I think. To skill for him I think Carmelo as like a good variety of punches gonNA lose considered as a for number, one will be an underdog for in almost everyone is if you went as great as a great upset and. My words and Jeremiah would be the top of the top one sixty and I'll be with you on that triple J. triple gene of course is declining, but you can't in a diminished. Over the last. Over the last few years, based on like water to fights lately, I think triple j still has no power. That can equalize any situation and I seem hitting channel. You know, let's see once again. If he wins, I'll be great. And what was the one that I mentioned? Billy Joel even dry over them. I think oakwoods Very Oakwood fighters. They'll give him a different angle. Different top of movements given type of nightmare getting frustrated. And overreaching for his shot and getting on a contest. Real. Another one for you. Stop. Triple Jian Nello Duck. Billy Sniff, Sanders. He say why you got ammonia intro Chan. And because like is a gay gives you sound bites. I. Know No, not a super chat was the Super Tat were saying he says stop triple duck. And, so they can Nilo. and. At all so. That's true, so we should automatically give journal the win and he's not. On number one because they will ducks in a school. Rice st the Jairo Y'all who's this? WHO's this person keeps asking about manual charts hilarious. What person asked me, but that was about. Luke. Ryan when I went up against a casual easy. So, yeah, let's talk about gun. And the Fan and He's going to beat on. He's going to get a domestic violence charge for beating on. Callum. Smith Dan that is disrespectful. Mean listen bodyshop. Ko similar to to the other Callum Smith. And to overcome. With No, no! You guys call them rocket. Over Smith No. Ron Rocchi Feeling Rookie Philly I get you rocky filled. As very possible I mean that the different fighters, but they look very similar in terms of like the frame white so. A, buddy shot is what they're calling for those those total fighters. That's how you deal with them. and. If one gay can do it and do it well, it's definitely canal, but as A. Very Good Buddy love the way disguises it with the little slap up, says I M and Bumi comes downstairs. In the gym. We have like a combination. We've my treadmill. We call it the blue. Know like your guy was saying. We need the special. Mellow. And but yeah. The difference is that Smith is a different proposition. Two rookie feeling thinks move. more skills is uses render be better. I mean it'll be competitive I hope he can do it, but like I said Kennedy's bump off puzzle number one. You can really go against him right. Yeah I think it's a tough fight. Come Kevin Smith He. He's tall. And you said it real good. He uses his range pretty well. He gets a lot of leverage with from those long as armed seventy inch reach pretty damn good, and if you not to use that reach dangerous who have we seen got another fight that he's a smaller guy, a lot of guys you know he's. He's. He's pretty. Yeah, he's pretty. He's pretty good on the old levels bigger than them, please. Listen Callum Smith is only boxed one hundred and thirty four rounds. You know he's got twenty seven. Twenty seven, I, pro-. Years old wet years, okay. Listen all I'm saying is that Callum has certain attributes that lineup together that make him in my opinion, a worthy adversary for Canelo, Alvarez. Is More than. Open and if you consider what he has ready wondered. Super Series read so. Is The guy. We Act you. GotTa, why are we acting like we see John Rata get robbed by Cowan smaetphone disown. and John Reid. Thought it was a robbery. John Rider could could. Never wake up being canal. Okay, so let's stop it. mean, that's just not just ryder right so I can't even remember and. Pronounce the name that Callum BITs, the guy that cut them bids in the semifinal of the subway super series. It was a last minute appointment. opponents replacement, and he again give a very lackluster performance but on Decem time when it was time to wake up for a big name George Gross. Give a very different type of of performance Phil. What happens with them to send? Chad I guarantee. Callum doesn't let his hands go like he normally does versus Canales easy to look good versus people that you know aren't on your level because it's less punches, come back man, but it's hard to throw punches when you get hit especially to the body. Is, true and adult goes in that Tim singles for everyone when you in there with Gondolo Uniondale with. The top of the talk so I mean. Are we really going to sit at all in a union I great performance against Cannell because you're bump? No, you have a great performance against because you were Indo. Someone superior to you and it happens but let's if that's what happens, right. To produce. Natural. He saw Matraman zone and shelf his career since signing all he's gotten his Hassam Dahm. WHO's one hundred sixty pounded? It's never been on like. That do. With veteran lead, so he hasn't signed dissolved Oh. He got. His own as much of USA. Zone when. He guys first television fight. On the Anthony Joshua under car, and he fought one hundred sixty pound sonnen dom, who pete equivalent put down six times in one fight you. Cut, them put him twice with one punch. was that. Says in this type of lawsuits, Homs in verses, one and sixty eight pounder. That math don't add up, but that's okay. 'cause after that he got another tuna. In John Ryder and win the decision so I don't see a man is being that good but I will say this. I will say that we have seen fighters fight down to the level of opposition, so Hussam can't get them excited because he's the guy that got beat on by the world before he finally got to get him against John Lewis and the performance against them them. What is a good one? Was very very good one. The performance against writer was not a good one was like a very very bad performance, and we all agreed. You know you can give an arguments for rider winning the fight. Most people scored it for writer is food. Right. But again you know you know how boxing does when you have like those tight fights, aid is not going to go for the away. Fighter and US, unfortunate analysis shape, but gee. I believe that writer is a bit open until candle. Then Smith, believe Smith is. OF CANAL STEVE IS CHICAGO SAYS HASN'T. Cannella beat up enough. UK bums. Isn't it time for him to step up to a more skillful challenge? Well Callum Smith is the Muhammad Ali trophy winner. He's the main beat the man he got the WB a Super Bell, and you've got to remember the. The CANNELLA was the WB regular, and then he also got the wbz diamond, which remember wbz at the WBZ Convention, which I was President October of last year two thousand and nineteen mandated that callum gets his shot at Ben. Evita's this year now to pandemic. So that might not happen, but guess what will happen. If Mellow. This one! Did it for me man. Listen I gotTA protect condello resume. I'm ready to. You. Know what they're gonNA say. Boston jared with a super chess says if sinn abundance can invade Smith space like Ryder did it will be short night oh. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Listen what writer did. was He out? Veteran him in a Lotta ways like he did show that Kellam issues only wet behind the ears. Is Yeah. He's inexperienced. Did I don't cannot practice against Canelo I want to be very well documented that I right now Pinola and I'm not going to change that you know that said I. Want respect for Canelo. When he beats Calvin Smith and right now I feel like people aren't giving the respect to smoothie deserves. That's because that's because of matchroom, and they're poor promotion of Callum. In the last two years, two thousand nineteen has been a a bus. Smelled about his skills. Promotion exactly he spoke. Why do you think there's someone super chatted Oh. you know more and more UK bums. That's because they haven't gotten to see George Groves. Zone. You know I'm disappointed because I offered that my man was like a hardcore hardcore, but you can't. You can't listen. He represents one of millions right. Listen to the show on playback and things like that like just because he is our only calls in every day. It doesn't mean that we don't have a casual with those same sentiments. Who the heck is this UK guy. I agree and I want them to listen. To listen to what we saying that he might be bombed because he hasn't got the promotion according to you, but in a we telling you that is a skillful guy is better than most people for candle now. We're not saying that he bits one hundred percent. We're not saying that is when a fifty fifty Friday saying that it's maybe a sixty five thirty five fights, and we want him to create the opposite the things that is going for him. Is Ranch if he can use it. We all said it, but if CANELO figures figures him out gets closed and make it like a a messy in close fight them. I say good nights and we don right so. You know Bodyshop bodyshop body shot he leans over and that Coppola, knockout punch, but yeah Mario as having Steve says nobody was in that tournament us. Quit Lien's Smith was gifted that WB, SS trophy Benda is now I I like George. Real quick, Vitas or plant go ahead or plant were in that both of the smoke Smith. Yeah, they weren't in that. That's true I can't say that it would have made sense that they'd be. It just based off of the way the promotion worked out. All of that so I don't really blame them or the tournament. They had to work within the confines they could remember. Lucia mutate with somebody wanted not super six tournaments, showtime and based off stuff. You know we just didn't see it. I mean he did have the opportunity at one point, and he didn't WanNa be in it anymore, but you know you got you got. You gotta give them. Yeah, we knew exactly. That's the point I'm trying to make Mosul what he got his chance to fight by opponents that outside of the tournament. Of the tournament. Exactly, but all I'm saying is at the time. We did think that it. The tournament was missing him. You know to me. It turned out that we were getting to see the greatest possibly degraded super middleweight of all time and Andre. Ward despite the fact that the UK has probably owned that division for longer than anybody. Andre Ward makes really good claim at being the best of ever in that division but anyway moving on. Ever. Once, avenue? Just look at people I Will Jones. One Sixty eight solicited I I know that it's not a popular opinion. I know a lot of people in like Andre Ward. I I don't know that there's a fighter at one sixty eight that beats Andre and I'm not saying that there's not a fighter that hasn't shown better faster to the game. Speed power combination of to all I'm saying is I think Andre would with the smartest one of the smartest fighters that ever touched. About, one and I know I'm GONNA. TRICO trigger a few people. Gaza. Ot Nine I have them the top man I know I know. It's total. Argue against it is a long line, but be hope, tiff Lacey, the only argument though the paragon pools is not great arguments, not a great debate, but it is an argument, and it is the the best names he beat. He beat them late in their career I. Don't choose us that because after that. Look at what. Has Done. Verses. But that's. That's the difference in World War took on all his killers. Early Ward was sixteen, and when he got in that tournament and fort the likes of Kessler and FRY, and all those guys you know, and then after that war went on to go ahead and take again. The monster that people was running away from Kobe yes. Oh! Ward is different. He goes to the fire. Absolutely. We live in a fire we live in. Like all we need the house. You know. We gotta keep it real cause. OCOEE guy his his win and of dipped off. He was like your mouth. Man. Those things. One is cool with it. Man Does things right so MR, CYP kick counterpunch. TALK TO US! You know with with. Came toward ward moved up to fight the other pound for pound. Do Right in a proxy. Where Roy Jones be half a man. Tony moved up because there was nothing that once the. Kawasaki State here see that stayed. He didn't do it Roy and said I don't care I'm the approve it? You only a couple of pounds every me. I'll go up there and get you and for one. Maybe, your coach, you said notice. He did not beat Roy and be happy once. Seventy talk, we talked about what sixty eight man come home and you coach. You got to know these things. Don't let see what school you on your show. Damn cold. Man I I doubt point. We're just talking about the body of work right so I do not be them at like one seventy five, but it's okay, and you also mentioned about Lake in a ward moving up, so you know he's also talking about someone just moving to over division, so that's taking him outside of his one sixty eight division. So that means cool you on your own cores right so. All Right? What do we got next on a docket? Because everybody's name, Cannella would set or midday legs in. Legal Joyce and. His tuneup and Dubois and his tuna Midi. What can you tell us about these tune-ups? They'll to Nope, so do blaze a meant to be winning, but the interesting thing like I've I've looked at least Before before the show and Found Fonda that the guy actually has like interesting openings right so it has a decent resume. EFFING has got twenty fights on a handful of losses like maybe free losses, but those losses are coming to people that we can recognize. I believe he has like heavier drugs on a loss to attract by red. We've Lake a KO so if Joyce is looking to get Michael, Borough Matteo and just say comparable went on his resume. This guy is one of those, and if he does better that those guys. Then we can use that as a measuring. Stick our borough Mitte right so. That's pretty much it right, but they are just like sure wins for for Joyce our hope. They stink up the joint I hope that you know he gives us like maybe no more than four or five Ron's, but he probably wants to rounds delayed. The reason why is getting that fight is because it wants to shake off the rust before going into the Dubai's fight. So who knows what the outtake will be, but I don't want him to play with his food. I don't want him to. Give people excuses to tell a you know what? You lackluster. We don't really want to see you because that's what goes against Joyce. Right people, a lot of people as like Israel Bud, sick, very pedestrian, one based I will fight. Going on too long. I want to just make a statement, and maybe while it's getting the wrong, so that means free four five runs maximum. You get your arms, but you also get A. You. Know a out exactly A-. Didn't really know too much about Michael Wally Schwab. Is Name Is Valley's. Now with the V. He's on a yoga. Does it, so those are the. Two that you can just say Yoga is actually. Everybody else I don't know. And There lows of like opponents ladies. There's lot of people that just make up like the Division that gives you a measuring stick. They're not bad defeat. Man Stop, you don't have a defendant is like it's understandable. If a person is is going to say anything negative about this. They don't know anything about the sport and. We're is trying to give I. Don't think there's anything to defend right so I. Don't think this is being attacked for anything. That's normal for people to have tune-ups, but I'm just giving information so people that want to get information. They certainly to talk to the people in the CIA so. That that's. What it is. I don't know it sounded a little defensive, but it's all right all right all right. Let's. Let's, you can make real quick, real, quick, real quick. I just want to remind everybody I'm kind of going GONNA make it in every single show thing because That's how the numbers move, so if you haven't done already, police subscribe to the Youtube Channel Help US reach our next goal. We just got to our goal of one hundred fifteen thousand so right now we're at a hundred and fifteen thousand and sixty, so I guess we gotta get to one hundred hundred and fifteen, thousand one hundred small goals I'm refreshing. Let's see where we're at right. Let's go chant. Reloading. ARIGHT sixty eight I'll take sixty eight, so I WANNA. Thank everybody to subscribing. If you haven't done so already, police do so. Don't forget to also click notification. Bell sold that obviously you can be notified when we go live because if you haven't noticed. We went live twice today, so if you didn't know now you know, and no one has the battles, so click the notification bell, so you can go live with us tomorrow. Right on time that being said I. Think we're coming around nine o'clock here eastern. We might as well Switzerland overdrive with these topics. Get these notes and open up these phone lines for these desperadoes. They get an anxious. To beat it down yeah. Yeah Yeah. Let's get it so real? Quick Sicilia Maracas and Jessica mccaskill, who we had on live. If you did not hear that we had just mccaskill on yesterday in the morning show, you can go back to the youtube and check it out. It was a great interview. but the Bronx mccaskill are going to be the first female to headline a zone card and they're replacing the Julio Cesar. Cesar Martinez fight. He was going to fight Puerto. Rico's Williams Aurora McWilliams Arroyo, and it was gonNA be a second title defense. You know I was so looking forward to this fight. I am so upset that it is not going through but I'm not gonNA lie brackets mccaskill. I'm happy for them I'm glad to fight his getting its proper. Do I just wish it didn't come at the expense of a Martinez Arroyo fight? That was the fight I feel like. If you're a hardcore, you know that those two guys were going to put on a show and I hope that they rescheduled out really soon But what do you guys think? Brackets, mccaskill versus a headline disown card headline. I mean it's just it's just a sign of the Times you know like you said a Fi fell apart, and they get to fill in. Out To women's boxing, they get to main stage. Hopefully they can take advantage and capitalize in. For, US, personally I hope actually. mccaskill wins. I've been trying to get the Celia. Barack is here man Wolf about two years. We've spoke. It's crazy. but yeah I mean Jessica's more accessible, and whatever she's American man. I gotta I gotTA. Root for my people man listen I'm rooting for her I. Really like I. Think is going to be fine. Friendly fights also read so you know if you've seen enough times? You know that she comes to brain like the fight right? Our hope that she doesn't like choose to do that all the time because she's. In my opinion, beds, wenches, boxing, and stepping out of Rancho. BID When she goes in for the you know the BRO. That's a bit of a downfall, but also way. We're Laker, and that's why it's worthy of like. A man events because they give us entertainment. I call just you know, do anything but second. What necessarily by the female boxing and push for it does the sound of the time shot off too much room that is putting like at least like free good female fights in next month or so so. You see you see. Me You know Costa Initiative really quick I think I don't know we'll find out, but I think see what ps on another counterparts yeah. Third One. I saw I just a little bit ago. Sending best fighter footage. No, I think so. That was his third the one he just did I think. Now that will came I Dunno I thought he I thought I saw third when he's been on twice. Ages bring a one just because he council because he super chatted, he didn't counterpunch the last time. Yeah Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm weighing on you on this. We're wrong. Good I got that. Shit. Man Yeah Yeah he's right. So where are we with? The news alerts. We are back to real quick. Little note not much to say on ESPN did average three, hundred, thousand, nine, hundred nine thousand viewers over the course of a three hour telecasts, but it did peak at four seventy one, and of course that card was headlined by Oscar, Vol Dez versus Jason Voulez. If he rocked out with us on that date. Thank you for doing so. We now the highest peak now or Still owns the highest peak, if not mistaken I. Wish I had the number in front of me someone. All of those peaks with yes, they did yeah, actually completely forgot to favorite the other day on twitter, but I can tell you that those are good numbers. You know if you look at what they had been earning. They've been earning just under that three ninety nine under that four hundred mark, you know. They almost hit four hundred thousand views on average for that three hour telecast. Where you know, there were some good names, but guys like we'd Oh got taken out of the fold. I think. If you look at it, it's a it's a good thing that that many people were tuned in to see and Edgar belong. To See House the State area. Yeah to see necessary boy no Dominican. Meal Yeah Yeah, you heard. He's in love with him. Yeah, listen there. They are the beneficiaries of these numbers how? These numbers saw. I wish these number started to grow a little bit more man better numbers for the men for us, but let's open unless phone lines. The I'm sorry. Go ahead and I like the fact that the bay hooked up with like You know but patrons, hirees and. I I like I like that crucial that does good for a good move. It. it looks like the ESPN cards. The BUBBLE CARDS ARE PROBABLY GONNA! Taper off now and they're going to start doing. Yes. Falls, back in. You know. They're actually debut in baseball today. That is not why I think that's why we didn't get a car, but at the same time they weren't i. don't think they wanted to do one that close to the London Card on Saturday and they had already gotten that with Frank Warren, so it's one of those things where you knew they weren't going to stick around They were what they were so everybody that wanted to just like crap all over all the time you know, we were getting boxing. You know that's that's basically what we're getting. Kudos to top rank for keeping. US entertained And now we're going to really start to see the fights pickup. PBC is coming out swinging. Golden Boys got a car tomorrow. Top rank is working on the finalisation of the deal, Oh and And Yeah, we're back boys. But let's get to the callers if everybody and anybody who wants to give off their final thoughts. I'm over China's schedule barrier for God because he looked Yo near. Ho Looks Olga I text late like Oh, I got to get you on the show man. He looks who. To to good. Showed rose funny because I was diagnosed. I mean horror today. Did they want that rematch? But I guess you know it'll happen once. He gets that title because they both moved up now, but. Is Ahead of home by two two fights or three fights already in at that weight one thirty. Eight, he studied subject to that training camp. That's why I think that you know very. Very calm bags and just using that shoulder roll those defensive more than fast closed-off punches. That's why I'm happy to move camp rates and every time I see them like the little snippet they show on Instagram of training. That's that's good. You know I like that and the. Heels like mentally happy, not camps. where it is from the head, bangers from the the DC area DC. Good Jim to. 'em Beautiful Jimbo huge very like. Wow, they got what three rings they got like twenty something bags on chimp well-spaced ow elevated to the rings are four feet up the gym. Ceiling is huge. It's like a boys and girls club, but only for boxing like. It's a researcher for box. Yeah no I love I love. You know they're really good. I'm Lenny allows day at nine thirty if he can do that. Moment final thoughts for me before he goes. You know I. I'm excited. We go to callers the aphids, my favorite part of the shore, dying to hear what people have to say about. Mike coming bag and everything that we discuss Canelo. Superman Capon the coming for manned on. I'm GonNa let them say they appeasement two hours to talk mentally sort about them now. But the they I'm just GONNA say against. It's fresh in their mind. Like the fight because I'm the style GIC. Tyson voces. They row John's, but I don't like it because I don't WanNa see them like you know. Take? The shine off their name basically. Performance, that is not worthy of the old. Man Astrology Man. That's why I have a standard superman. Note static. On the same way man I like I want my Tyson Roy Jones, do you know have their day in the bring? They know they wanted and You know you can't take that away from the mandate, they they. They're legends in the sport and we're going to get into. A lot of people are getting excited about it, and even though coachman he wants to see him. Be The guy the odd man out say For Mike Tyson going to get hurt, you know damn well. Mike again. Her Mike Mike. Mike, Snow! That's that's what I'm telling you. We do Boorda wars for that fight. Man He hey! Man How can we travel the twelfth of September two unable I don't know man I'll know. We need to make it happen. Because in New Jersey is not lie. Down like Texas. And all those other states we guys because you already did and now you're in a better spot and we 'cause we shut down and we and we corentin. Opened up, we did outdoor opening. Only we never did which I did so we're one of the lowest states. My girl was telling me yesterday so Yeah, man I don't know man even if we don't do a border was I? Promise you man. I think. We need to invite a few people to my crib man. This is a fight party. Tyson versus Roy. Jones is a fight party like a fight. Though don't do that to me might be. Be. Dan. I'm in. The US I'm without to be inquiry teams in days. But that's okay. You GotTa Quarantine over here, I just. Got Quarantine. Giddy Midi, it's called self quarantine enchant. They expect. They expecting you to do that? Oh. Yes, with no one is. GonNa check, you got TA. Members coming to hotel. Anyway, but Yeah I. Do know this. My girlfriend's sister just came back. From Maryland, they went to what is it? What's the beach called over there like Sun City Maryland. I didn't even know they had a beach. I, well, someone will say. I'm sure I'm sure that's the case by out and I'm just saying wonderful. September be too soon for International. Big, ass fight man I wanna I wanNA I wanNA. Do like we did with the aver. We's like be with a bunch of boxing. Fans watching that one that's. That's official. I liked. But Anyway shopping it up. Many trying to get his six fight Buddha wars. Record now Midi. DJ's. That's what he started switching over PUBS. Want us all. I knew Mario Check Check blocks I think that soon. Lamont scholar I I did it is him. I put in their. Release on and It just showed up like a ghost worsening blocks. It's their old Donald Bank. Says Ness make it happen. Make Boorda wars for I'm telling you listen private Jim. Get it! I saw somebody Got New York flight for eight dollars the other day I don't know if they're capping. But put that on twitter and I watched the whole Youtube video. Somebody took a train from New York well actually New Jersey from Penn Station to California on a train during the pandemic, and it was completely empty like he did the whole Gopro like through the whole thing, and he got one of those chains where. It's just you? You can actually locked the door and chill and. WHO's crazy? I'm like wow, people really took those risks, but yeah I. Guess That's you know they're safe way to travel out there. Man, I. Don't Know Yeah. Yellow. Let's go out a big bowl. Remember to raters five stars on itunes. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services experts, an electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation. visit us at El Camino. Electrical Services DOT COM subscribe to YouTube dot com slash boxing voice for the latest and greatest interviews with favorite. Sue them on the Scala woulda been alongside champion. Hey, how you doing. How are you doing this a good evening? I Thornton got fishermen and Nice to have you back on the show, man and Yeah, so quoting I wanNA. Give a shout to Oscar about this. That was a cool flight. I was pretty exciting Puncture. The Punch was exciting punches are he's been knocking are. he makes them exciting fight, but I think you'll find that nobody beal champion herring. Instead of frame bursts. He has a better time. To win that fight, and our quick will do the unification like there at that division I know he's. He's too risky plan to come down to one twenty six because one twenty. But you, a better chance become dip. You'll champ then another thing Joe Joyce Georgia in the state of starting while they I, don't see why his moral matching were charge. I've been looking for an opponent for for two years, and that's a wonderful Faisal Hand Innings A. Charter in a European, he's very popular. That will be a good fight, and he's Phantom. That division, or what? He mentioned his chart or chuckle boxy. Camille you seem twenty timing Internet? So I would like to see. Dole Joyce fight on a guy charged and if he brings that bill into a fight with two boys. Could a pay. that was Berlinger's doing pretty good. He's not people out I. Think but I go through five I will now try to push the war title. All these other guys are gaining sour on the bench. Mike opt like Andreotti I. Think as punch. Thanks a no I was. Against Plant. Chance Plant Plant has the speed factor, but will know how plants going to act When you start getting hip, those punches or Christian Bank one of those guys were there for for one of those belts that will be a good thing or John Writer there. One of these guys like a John Right in there with a what Berlanga see how they do. How does witness all all a more seen fighter and Thank you for giving me opportunity on your show in in Congress. You got today and you guys have a pleasant evening. Thanks very much. Brother Suli Mind. Awesome to hear from you. Know. Does my first time to hear Sudirman as a corner was a host. I'm super excited I I knew that you know it was told mom would chai inevitably. Did it just waiting for the Double Land Bagels? We usually talk about a double N. Bank. I, Love I love. He's he's a good. Right. We gotta go to mass. Cut and add lying. Water. Committee. Bundled. Ot Be V. What is what's up coach? Many? What up Man Dooby Mario? They. Twenty twenty another. Another unexpected turn! L.! Meckstroth dominance for real chance. You know what I'm saying I felt it in my spirit's will look cool I'm going to be completely honest. The thing I'm looking forward to the most is Tyson Ring Walkman that's. That's probably the thing I'm most excited. I don't know how fighting play out. the MAR-. Think about it I'm kind of along the lines of coach Midi. Because Mike Bothering for fifteen years and it wasn't like he's been where he's just been in Jim. Who recently he's had a rough fifteen years. You know he's been open about his In Oh drug issues and things of that nature, so let's see how their bodies up and wasn't really dislike. Trading with Chris eubank not long ago. I. Think. He's. So. That's got to be keeping them in some decent safe keeping him sharp, but you know man I'm just glad I'm glad it's happening Looks like canal is going to have to go back to that day of the dead date back in November something because I just I don't see I don't see him being able to compete with this. And keep up with this on this level but I, I'm high for man I really am. I'm glad to see. I've been on it all day. was trying to out hoping to make it at home in time to apologize but ness. You know how the truck life goes sometimes. But it's all good man I'm happy to be happy to be seen that that's actually coming true. Edge. See to see how everything else plays out from here on out. And Yeah, let's look forward to a man I probably around Boomerang back in a little bit. Just a quick one that that's actually a good point. That's super makes his bringing. Roy Jones also actively training fighters like Chris eubank. That's good that means is always in a gym at his mind is always on boxing is just at least like doing bad work and stuff like that keeping the technical side of things. And shut out to my My good friend Muhammad the problem memorial at one forty. Also, those like is training camps. We've Roy Jones and all that so just shut out two good friends at a sometime. All right we got. Let me see if there is any. More. call them the ringer. And Lost Vegas. Sees Sees! ON ONCE TO A. Era Goes. What Guys sorry got me at school, but Step away real quick. Yeah, you know. I was pretty surprised. When when when actually seen that you know this'll. I felt like this whole thing kind of died down for a little bit so then I kinda just had it in my head like all. Maybe it was just rumors. Maybe just Tyson Philip themselves. And Training in you know just put it out there. Just see what people say, but she's actually going through with. It just reminds me Shannon Briggs. Talking about the was happening meeting that he was gonna Fight Tyson so I. Guess you know I guess he didn't win the purse baiters on. But. Yeah man is pretty cool to G. go at it. I'm just excited to watch it, but. They got roy as the as the favourite. They got. Roy is a favorite Yeah, I am very surprised. I'm very surprised land. Is 'cause you know. Tyson was knocking out heavyweights his career. You know Roy was the one moving up, but Yeah and they say you know power the last to go, so hey man! Advise a advice would be careful in there, but yeah man great. Hopefully they're both. Stay safe. You know, but a great show guys to Cheese? Yeah Man. She looked committee, did the lean back when he started talking like Roy is supposed to be. The favourite is should chill champ. You got the killer Mike Tyson. Kit Dynamite you week. Pool. We're going out to. The JT. New Orleans as water. To make up, really ship A. took. Stuff. I WANNA talk to. Turn up station. Yeah it was. I took shower just listening but Comment on as fight? I think Tyson go knock all Roy Jones out. Man I. Just Feel I. Feel! Like how many how many is it exhibition? How many rows they're going your new? Chew. It S A Lotta. For Jones to be standing in front of Mike. I give I I think I. Think might get him out in like five rounds. Probably knock them out stop. So. Also got a knee Roberson on beaten. Oh You Ain't got jake. Yeah, do gotta be gotta be Jake. I did think he GLAC naturalistic. Give him up ahead. y'All. Did you just say black? Kella place your both. As I said again this year. Any dinner boy Jay I'm sorry I just see him. All right. We get to some other ones here we go. We go on King Born Brooklyn. and. Let's do it like dish. Man whose war crazier who's to wear man is Tyson. You don't think Tyson on that ring and break in. Charter Break Roy, Jones Ribs and break his jaw three pieces. This is horrible. This is bad I paying for out. I could tell me about it after I want. You to world is bone, but no tights into going to. Try to kill now J.. Late Roberson what the hell is! This man really were. I don't know man who who Jack Site. Let's get to that man who by all jet fighter you. Listen Virgil Ortiz Tammy. Wall got, Virgil or If I rounds Shame Moseley Junior Jeremy Ramo Su. Who Jerry Animals who Jimmy Shamo? In I mean GIMME A. Own Joyce Jiji jogging. Sleep him I don't know who the hell's his ramage memorial. Listen Man I know this. I'M GONNA. Get to Cannella Real, quick. How would you feel the? Knockout canal would you feel good or bad? desma cool what I feel, good or bad. I mean I. Guess I would feel good, because it's like a new star is born. You're not outcome Nello. My man has shown to have a Greenwich in so yeah I would be impressed. I got the beat. Which? Which? Avert. We're going to Majette in Florida. Do. That! Going on. Jerry by needed. They need like they need like the video. Subscribe to the channel, had the bell next to it and join pitcher even for three dollars man. I can't see no other way all that trauma that of Roy Jones than the received from getting knocked out. I feel like about happen again and Coach Menu `super that through hours asking. Why can't Charles get those three fighters debate get those three five that you mentioned in no, like why can get those fights, but a year man, good show. Hey, by Yanni direct really just like this video right now, but that's all I got. All right We went out to Ringo status. Josh, in North Carolina would do standup several folk. What? It is what it is GONNA BE? Job. Maurice Leaving Sat Cheng. Yet man shout out the Morosely Evans going back and forth with him. He's doing all right is the real strain and he's training. Before you say going back and forth with. A look it seems seems to be. trolls the troll. Picture from the FACEBOOK follow him on facebook. I'm thinking it's simple. Man. All right now. Marie Sleet! Call, Niche! Okay you seven on four I'm sorry. More easily jumped. He got shot. Okay, okay well I'M GONNA. Go ahead and Cook a little bit. Roy Jones Mike Tyson I really don't want to see it, but I'm root for Roy 'cause I'm like my. At what how you'd be asking for. Mike. make Nate Robinson versus Jake Paul discussing I mean only want to see that I know. That's disgusting yourself now. I WANNA. Get to Cannella. Clinton beautiful our is. Joe. Tell Them Smith like. Cow's madness 'cause you all know hit up, the ask somebody and say. Can he fight somebody? There's work for them that everybody wanted to see fight that that actually might have a chance to beat him Kenny fight. Somebody like that man. She's like he ever GonNa. Fight. Somebody like that. or He's going to stick with. Floyd Mayweather on the. Thought he BIOS he knew he can be. I thought people say he was stuck in a trout I thought people say he was ducking Laura I tell people say he was ducking triple G. Like, would you mean okay? Sound! Of Jacobson Him, nobody I wanNA see this fight. Somebody that's worked for them like Charles Andrei somebody that we know that. Those. He's worth a damn. Charles for them. They they they more for them trout. KIRK LOSE You don't think. Nobody. Trout hold until exactly until you can show me Charlie Charles Koto Heen got it yet. You that was a big fight, okay? I'll give you that I'll give you that, but at the same time you know what I'm saying this because light, let's let's keep the real. That Coppola fight. Look Bakers. Jacobs. Lose each prove you wrong and look fake. That's crazy. No Roman come on, man, you know that when even fighting like you like you usually do both they wanna. You find like he gives his. Body because he was getting body. That's what. Losing You. GOING TO CALL A, But that's crazy. The Charlie think that like you know the people still saying that fight is fake is crazy man crazy? Crazy, but anyway let me go to looks like Seattle Washington what up chat been a minute minute minute. Mr. took. The shot. The horse it up! I don't care what. Mr The. Baby We're good TV. there's been deal with no worship but Good good good man I got Roy Jones. All you gotTA. Do is push that job. That's all you got to. In Came Smith or Colin? Smith I gotTa do this. Man. Cannella don't know what to do with that. That'd be his first loss. And That's my call, you know. I I. I'm showing suite. We go on out. To. Talk to. Talked about how how trout the chuck be totally be Koto Yeah kudos coming loss as a matter of fact Chile great win, but he was coming off that you and the same, the same trout that'd be Koto, but lost both of the Carlos but Charles Ain't worth a damn, but the guy who who Carlos is worth a damn Dan and hold a pulse, trying to save my voice because I'm GonNa, go crazy. 'cause I want all reasons to show up Saturday. Too Much I got a class and a couple of minutes I gotTA. Keep my voice right and. I'll cash. No, he can't be a side even if he created the alphabet, he started off his letter. B. C D e f G. he never tayside. You can't be a side with that many ails I. Understand that I'll go first because I attributed I'll spit I spit. It's over. He Ain't gonNA. Need this, but ain't. No cavs, versus E. P., A. C., p. versus cast, simple gun side deliver to your Saturday throughout the up. I don't WanNa get lost in this conversation because this is the callers time, but I just WANNA. Say Listen if you were there at the time as a boxing fan, then you know that nobody dot. Cannella was GONNA fight trout like everybody was so shocked when he took the trout fight right. Okay, so he took the trout fight. He get this trough fight. He wins. You know and people still don't want to give him his respect. Then he fought floyd mayweather. We know happened fought off radio. Angelo, we know what happened. Then there was an erase landy Laura that nobody including his own promoters didn't want him to fight. Did it again and I'm not saying that what he did at one fifty four should count and one sixty or one sixty eight, plus all I'm saying is that does? Legacy, it's part of his whole legacy. He's Donna in every division every division that he's in. They think he ain't GonNa fight some guy that he fights and beats and I. Don't want to say. I don't want to say this because this makes it sound like I don't think the Charles are worthy are should get that fight because I do think that they should get that by saying is that he fought the Charles at that time instead of trout, instead of Lora, he would have gotten blasted for it. Have, been. You know it's. It's like you know I. Just I don't know I. was there man I was there like I could sell my kids one day. You know two thousand thirty four like I was there when he fought trout. Don't let them fool you like. They didn't think he would take that fight. Laura was thought to be the end of Canelo. was. A boogeyman didn't work out that way. You know I know Laura one, though. Listen I'm not saying that can no longer you know about the fact that he took those fights? Also? He also was on that back for like excessively unit. Mean Yeah, he didn't go out to try to beat the champ. But looking. For You. Know. I'll say North Carolina for whatever reason but then. Jeremy. Young South. And he comes from. Oh! You sound. You stray. A check this out. I'm Han Elida. Allied blast immune his show. Me Say what what did show. Brother got go to guessing respect on his show like Ronald, trying figure out. Sam Because. Can. He can fight. He like Nello by the renfrew. The Smith Brothers before they do get shot. Lamb now that light like who is who is Carol Schmidt like? What would it have do done? For for him to be promoted. Is Obvious Zone. He would dissolve. Ain't doing pay per view Cannella, the one that hasn't announced the fight. Charlie announced the fight and you're still crying about. Charles, getting shot! Charles. Also it's not about like you know. Smith being promoted. Remember Smith. Middle since. You said you just got finished at Smith with the hottest thing since sliced bread on his show, who said? Out once, yeah, those are different divisions. Right now he's the best one sixty eight now. You can. Best fight at once they did that would just saying that's what he said right now you can make an argument for plant. Open Evita's like we heard before, but that's again a much opinion. Right so in terms of like who's GonNa way from. Students as him read so. That's the. Same Person Week even do. This regular tournament. He was in light man. In Yeah Yeah. GotTa give him props gave Regis give any fighter. Props Johns up his next. Awesome do. Tournament, man, do their fighting. Because I can't remember who reaches four until he lost Josh Seller who he be before if If for any Florida. Before, he lost. He lost the Taylor who he beat before that. Why when he beat why right he followed. Him You. Know who we before you can. Of course you know why? Because he was in the tournament, you'll know who he fought, but you gave them respect because he fought them dudes in the tournament and you get. Tell me the names of the. At in about a fight, todd man like like he now about the fight for the night light that mass like that whole conversation is relevant. This man I knew made who raises about the flight. And you. Know, do you understand? Is on another network and announced the fight. He. I'm. That wasn't the car takes. You're talking about though you say who who did show like why the relevant. No nobody say, ain't nobody said. Anybody who saw? Their. Know somebody else said is the Charlesworth them and and I repeated that audit Charlesworth for their. See now look look. If you bought a bj right, you giving him all the proud, but when Charles. Export Glad said. You know what I'm saying so now now we not counting their win your life ain't. Nobody you day I. don't get it and Harrison hold. Your logic. Don't make sense so you telling me we not supposed to give. Jason Rosario Credit for knocking out a unified chin. Little credit for who who he not down. With. The game is what you mean. We give him credit. What the Hell Ono you in the role search! We're saying. y'All got finishing. Nobody so how you giving credit we. Bring words the conversation you add in your own where we never use the word. He ain't nobody bugging you. Should. Shabby to the show the chair right now we're going. On now. I know I never said he got nobody. To listen to the show that we did on the Charles been saying. Go ahead I'm sorry. Go ahead more. You know you you try and. I just wanted to say if go and listen to the Charles show. We did yesterday right like we. We big him up. You know what I'm saying like. I feel like they're in the best fight this year that we're GonNa are the best card that we're going to see probably all year like I. Don't mind going to different way right now do i. think they deserve. The the canola nods of course, but right now they're doing their own thing, and they're doing a great job of it Rosario a great win to have Devon Shaneco pig win. Da Da da. So you resort you in that fight, you got you got you got. You! Like. The until you. If you fight one of the very top guys. I'm going to vote for one of the top guys that I mentioned. When he finds the likes of the Rosario. I can see you know it's probably Charles Fights. But marginally, but it's still like fifty. Fifty will potential for them to be pushed all the way. That that was my argument is. So experise. Don't matter like a spirit somebody with championship level been. Lose lighter. You got goes and he. Does, what gives you the edge over those guys? Right that would makes you just like turn those like fifty fifty five into fifty five forty five new favor that was. Just like the seven rounds out of the twelve right so. You might be. I. That's My Co.. Netanel I he might be a one hit one. That's all I'm saying. Let's have let's see what happened after the flight. We'll see. We'll see we'll see. Anniversary Law so do Charles Man. Sony Talk to me. To be your user. Clear. Yeah, yeah love Thursday. Flagship shows are Manam. Trying to keep my head everything you guys talked about you guys cracking down on Thursdays Yo. Mike Tyson Roy Jones I like I said before I was the first one. To bring this I'm GONNA, keep breaking it out. Keep putting into my hands i. get the proper fire. Brought it up three months ago and everybody clown in the edge. You guys, so yeah. toge outside Tyson's Baker cut one more thing about Tyson and Roy Charles, and I said before as long as there was a Jewish for me in the nineties. We cannot take away from what these men are trying to do. We need to give them respect and see what they do. Because I'M GONNA. Tell you what I am visit. In that fight Lazo in nobody gets seriously her. I can see the winner of that fight by Shannon Briggs. I really can and as far as Nello Encounter Smith. I think I think. And I think earls spins upbeat. They suffer from the same ego. Detriment to themselves I think they all just throw out names of people they wanna fight, and then those fighters get tired away. Take another fight. If they were left to see, don't battle into the leftovers and trying to see that and as far as NATO. Logan Paul. Yeah, I do WANNA. See only because of what happened with the Logan Polychaete. And that's kind of like you when it comes to that. You know that off. Brands Shit I like the spectacle of it also I think it'd be cool to see and what being by got more time Yo at all the battles. Saturday my favorite battle that I can't wait to see. Is Cyp versus cast reason CB relate presell. Peak counterpunch. Familiar of meeting. People, thought the tank Tanko beet sugar jeep, but you say should be Charles Oh, so you picking both Charles to win then you really don't mean that. I know three or four guys who could beat who could be challenged on sixty. You just make an. Secondly. If you think that Charles could beat with all you then, why can't you speak positive of the man who you think will win? You see that see where he's about to win. And your mind, so speak positive about you. It could be negative about the do that. You won't put your money against, but you do want to speak. The negative I got the positive money. SPEAK NEGATIVE CYP got positive money. Put your money or just shut up. Tune in Saturday. All right so I want to today. Because that's not my type, but Let me tell you on that. If you want me to talk positive about the people that you like or dislike, follow you in the devices that you support. That's not naturally what I would do. I don't put down those people achievement I'm just saying it I see it as I said right now. I do not believe that those guys on top of the Kramer and saw or billion. If they'd be on top of the criminals cool, I'll just going to have to say okay. I was wrong and I see what those guys are doing, but then it yet. All righty, then let me get to Stephen, Chicago. Steve. You guys doing tonight all right brother already. wrote. I everybody take a deep breath. Remember the key word the Tyson fight. Or Exhibition Kerrie they WANNA. Put on exhibition and make a little money, right? Wing all got a fall in love with them. Maybe you don't gotta get salty with me. You know it is what it is Michigan Salting for that. He said not that. I said I use the words that he said. But anyways. Let's talk about the Smith. Rosemount makes Smith ought to be some beast of this division. Look? There doors one belt. Put up a net in. Tournament. With programs or at least two, so it's not sing. You're trying to compare them. Has got two bolts reduce our. One Euro Dude relic. I can't pronounce his name. He got the ball he of the belt. He got the bulk from him. So you can't compare the two. There's nobody. Near the narrative we should be pushing as. Smith is the best fight in this environment. Yes, I agree in this environment. He is the best fight, but we own this environment. No, he's not the best hyper Nilo. But in this environment. Yes, I agree. Steve I iron. Of you imagine it's all good. I hope that one day we get to meet, and you can just serve me. A blades overule Bologna dish or whatever and. Hopefully! Off. So. January twenty, second twenty, twenty, twelve, twenty seven eastern time. Which is midday? We had an amazing amazing amazing offer for Charlton very lucrative offer for Charlie and he turned it down. The La Hoya told fight hub TV during the interview posted Tuesday to its dupage, well. Charlie didn't turn it down, but his agents or whoever? Whoever's behind PBC. You know I don't know. This was January. Ask while Bay. No. This. Is this year this year? Yes, you. Only fights twice a year, and if you were offered a fight, he was gonNA fight in May and independent happened, so if you would've accepted, you could still fall in September. You could still been an option unit. I mean, but we know that they not cross the street. Man is only going to be when it makes. One hundred percent sentiments just yeah I. got that when you said that because I, wasn't thinking of it that way, but you're absolutely right, and maybe not. Because Canola shuttle fought in May. Then we had the triple g talks, and basically nose future seems mapped out for the next year at least and so I was thinking about it from that perspective, but technically you are absolutely right they the Charles have announced I can still out there technically and that's not to say that. The Charles blinked or anthem day. That's the best. Lane in lane. You know, let Camello, do he doing you do what you doing. The people will demand. There's no demand for that does not demand. Janko toss aims that you could knock off to get those attention exactly, but demand is made whether Pacho. Demand is. Mayweather McGregor demand is. Earl and spence, which is kind of dying down since the car accident, no law while the Joshua that was demand. I don't even feel the fury. Aj Demand I. Do not feel it. I'm biased. Maybe I'm a hater, but demands differently who is beating the drum for Charl like show me show me to maximum boxing episode, whereas like damn man I mean canals been ducking Sharla. So the whole world got a conspiracy against the Charles all the pundits on every other other other channel and other publications. They all got a conspiracy on the. One hundred may saying damn. is been since one hundred and fifty four pounds that can ellos avoided Jamaal. Charles or Djamil instead of just saying Charles so convenient. Tell me exactly as he duck and. It's ridiculous, man. It's crazy Yo. See what Kinda Punch. Let's go Chan. Affects you when you are mandatory, you get thirty percent thirty percent of the perse, so when Charl businessman, it's more without Heyman works. We have mandatory offers. He's supposed to get thirty six eight muscle. Don't WANNA pay. Thirty five million dollars that means when you fight about home, you'll have to pay them. We're GONNA which offer so you ask for the franchise tag and you'd think that the next time you offered his man. You offer him less than you would have made the mandatory Nah partner. You beat that that offer and make a real. It's not grab to say we also have something very lucrative. Now. You can tell us what it is because what we know about boxing. Big. They tell us when it's not big. They use words like very lucrative very lucrative. Tell us what it is ain't nobody signed up for that? Today, ain't nobody asks for Cannella anybody. Cool man as So now you know now, we saying okay. I made a mistake. I was saying he thought Charles Oh, but what I'm saying is Charles is being strategic because he signed without Heyman and now Heyman is super smart, so he said don't take that offer. You make more as a mandatory cool. Just glad you cleared that up for us in May show. We know Cannella duck and nobody in know. I'm glad you decided to tell us the Charles to be a businessman. Thank you as a charter. I love an acknowledged that you came clean, thanks. Super Chephren Victor Bungalows he says. Do you ever check be triple G. and my is? This is a unification bout. Canola will fight the winner. Be Patient Boxing Fan, prayer, hamper emojis. Yeah, I agree I think that this relief feels like a Nilo eliminator and obviously triple. G is next up after whoever gets this next Kilifi. We know that triple J. Just Mellow. That's demand triple J Cannella vats demand. Will Laura dig in in the ring going to the podium snatching the Mike from camello that's demand because why people knew Hispanics knew why 'cause lower spoke Spanish so what he said to Canelo canals Stansky here. You know demand. Just show me demand, but anyway counterparts from C. WHY BE. Bit Spider. Stop playing got. About the talk cutting into my time, she's look. Listen for one. It's gotta be a two-time Duck. If you run for the franchise, no paying thirty percent come back from less than thirty percent. That's another duck. If you owe me a hundred, and then you run. You say fifty a bit to run. It again is not going down. If you don't come with that thirty percent on more, it ain't happening. That's the point we were really offer the way. Not Twenty to fifty thousand and everybody was ducking because the fibers don't make more money, but now it can be condello all of a sudden. You get out, Nisha. I'm here to get all hype. You bought the. You're trying to make me lose my voice, so cassie say he ain't safe either. You body back, but let's go. Listen all you're doing. Is You know regurgitating argument which is? Charles made the smart business moving in not taking the file. Okay, you let us know. He's a businessman. I said that the other day remember. We did a whole show on his house in. How paid he is so I'm which you chair? I believe you. Get on a bus I just get off that bus in all of a sudden, and it turns yellow when you start saying that. You know that Cannella was duck, and that's when I'm Outta here but. Spoil Says Ness. That offer was a three fight nobody signing a golden boy. Man, I don't see none of by fight in his boxing scene autograph here. Then you got James Kelly says I'm on the phone listening waiting to be connected James. Kelly press one yeah press one J so I can see what number you are. got a press. One is James From Alabama with the two zero five. or Five to where's to five tours? He five ten. WHAT WE'RE! Changes to. Five to boom. Let's give him the first time caller intro. Making his professional debut. James Kelly. G Hey. Good evening, everybody! How are you doing? We're doing. Doing okay. Yeah I'm to get ready to go to bed. Up in the morning to go to war, but out. Loud. They're the ones that I had several way for a while. Have personal issued to deal with, but when we talk about ducking, I came in. We know so about ducking. Why Nobody, why isn't anybody talking about Dimitri? Dimitrios Andretti. I mean West to talk about I. Mean you know he's the guy. Basically always. Andrea done in this compromise actually actually James. How about you win shirt? I promise you. Don't mail shirts out. They, know our mail. Shirts are name his last four opponents. I will assured I will get my girl millet to Mar. don't use boxer. Cheetah name is not weighing name his last four. I dare you know what? It. No, no! He's fine has been in a distance, so so spread out. You can't. You can't even remember this man. He's been on a design diet for the last two years, and they just re signed him to another four or five, so we'll see what they're going to be picking out. Here right and and you're right, and that's what I'm saying. The last for five East. Pfizer's spread out I mean. How do you remember and they were gives people that. I didn't know. because. You can't be talked about if you ain't nobody. You gotTA fight some, but I'm wondering. I'm just wondering if Charles scared of him. He's a good. C P that man he seems to be. The Charles Publicists off scared. Gase wipe e I mean. And I think. That's how it is, I mean once. Down your press conferences and stuff. We were leg certain boxes. And then we automatically want to defend them at all cost, and all that I can tell you that they're not scared. They just WANNA. Make sure that maximize the return, and it's always the case. We don't fights read, so I wanted to find him, but probably doesn't make sense. Right off for either of them and. You know that that's the reality, but if you WANNA take orders, you know emotional things away from the argument. There's no scared people out there. Who just people looking out for the best money? Now you need. The DATA WHAT THE PROBLEM! With. Today is the money factor. THEY WANNA make all this money and I concur with the WANNA. Make money because they're putting their lives on the line when the in rain, but they're more focus on that and. then. Fighting. Finding. CLEVELAND pleading the crowd pleasing the people that pay to see them fight. And Is always a money issue and then known. They don't ever fight each other I'm going to tell you I'm reality, and then it'd be will be over the Challah I believe that. At least. Possible because we stand and everything so I tend to agree with you, but the reality of this right. You know you said it. People have to look for the investment in sport. You don't have a long time in this career and you're getting her to you. You WanNa make you money but I took I'm talking exactly. I'm talking from a fight. Suspect former finds perspective icon. Defend them. I'm with you. We want to see the best fights. Right now right to way right but we have to deal with the reality of. Politics like the different promoters, the different TV networks the different bounds. That's always going to be the debate. Women and you know. That that that's that sad from a from a Fan's perspective, but that's the reality of the situation that we have we. We have boxing right. You know. And I understand the politics of the man, but I think. The politics have has over rid overridden. The. Demand for fights and. Keeping Sport Alive. You know Is, is not it's not? It's not good if he has. Two next point if the demand is big enough though it will happen to his point again, we you know the people who like and appreciate fighters lanc Andrei. We love his skills and everything, but we also have to recognize that. Either promoters or himself? The it doesn't do enough to make himself like that Pfizer that the general public wanted you pushing for it, but ask people. Even amongst your friend that don't necessarily follow boxing, who Andres and if they pushing that, Friday, probably tell you. They don't know him and US waste not happening if the demand that would happen. You know exactly the many. People can justify the fight. They can't say oh. We've been demanding it. Where was the campaign? But let me get to these callers? We've got a lot of people jumped in, and you know how it is, but as far as Andre he deleted. Let's go to. Infringe! Portion of the Dole, we, call. Yoyo something boxing brothers. Chain a sat out the everybody in the panel. Everybody any chatter, everybody listening. This is a public service announcement. This week got boxing back this you listening you? Friday since since we got boxing back, we, we're going back to prediction Thursday right in Cro Sunday right you. Are Right I was chopping it up with some of the boxing. Brothers man on. Man We came up with some man. This make it a little bit more juicy always been wanting to see. Who is the grandmaster caller of TB and we want protected month by month basis and the years out. Let's say it is starting We might be star a few fights before it is because I've seen a few picking fights before. But they were talking about. Some people were saying starting August, how `bout we everybody put in five dollars right? Prediction Thursday right. We send the money to you if possible. Wherever wins the pot at the end of the month. Who got the most picks right? We only pick in high profile fights. Headliners. So. I'll say schedule. We need to know what fights in advance. That's the hard part picking the fights on the schedule in advance and you know how fights are. They fall off, so we gotTA figure out a plan for substitution fights. In case, fights fall out. especially. Excuse me especially now with Kobe look we we. We didn't get the herring five. Maybe we would have put that just because it's a title fight just because he's defendant. Oh, no I could make it right, but. The flight your ideas, beautiful man. It's like. What happens, so if like? We've gotTA type. People split the money amongst themselves or something later that day convene. Winter. Callers. Eighty te'o question though. By month. Though you know I I, I just is tallied up for the end of the year, and everybody gets a big pot, but let's just start off by month, and whoever gets all of their picks that at the end of the month just the. the only reason I'm saying. If there's a tyrod is because right now you have like a lot of. Easy fights to peak right because you know when we asked that much. We'll we'll we'll discuss it. On Patriarch, 'cause do me, says you know he's been doing some reading and he doesn't know of this this What do you call How do you say No Guidelines your. Guidelines, but I was trying to use the other word Okay. Just wanted to. The, you know the the terminology, but anyway the point is telling of goods and. So? The point is anyway Joe Yeah. It's something to talk about I think we need to develop it because they're like even look just think of box in bars right like look how many episodes had to take before? It's a working flowing system right, so we need to work out the kinks like like. Not Do me but. Coach Midi said if someone gets a tie, it can't just be. We think info is going to win. We need. We need to have things in place. If there is a tie. How do we have the perse? Obvious. Fights dropout, but look. We'll talk about that on Patriot where there aren't any rules. Anything else you've got before you. are like the. In Roy Jones, fight man it like Steve, said it just expert exposition, you good. Oh! Who you good to go. Through favorite fighters man, but if I had to pick going with Mike Tyson. Right Fan. Let's work that out yard I think that'd be good for the show. And it is see we'll finally see. WHO's the best grandmaster quaker of the fights on Thursdays? For sure all right. Listen I'm going to be honest we need. We need a Sony. We need a Sony. and I'm not nominating Sony for this Sony I mean if you capable of doing more than one thing then amen to you. Guys did aren't wink winged Dumi but yeah. If you can do that, that'll be awesome, but we definitely need someone that is going to make sure the fights on schedule because I've been a part of a fantasy boxing league, which goes off the actual schedule and you know the it's. It's the same. Idea except there's no funds now. You're just adding the funds the fantasy. They told the word fantasy so that they can call you like you know the winner and you feel good. Because there's no bread, but if there was Brad, it'd be different, but I hear what you're saying. I, I I. Like it. I'm not good at that though it would be dope, also if like us the CO host. Had A challenge the Patriots, so we put up a poll for each fight. Who Wins Right and patriots votes, and that's who they're going with important with the feeds anyway. Yeah, we should. We should do that, but if they beat us, we'll have our own. four-man vote five-man vote, you know, get cash. We vote on who we think's going to win, so we got to go with so it's US versus Patriae on. You know what I'm saying every week. That could be I'm sorry that idea just popped in my head went up and it will. Definitely, yeah, this needs to be developed. Moving on, we got. A J MAC in the New Orleans. bitches sport total disrespect. Cute. Gorilla. Thing if you do. Stay away. They're. Aiming Boogeyman. I'm telling. That lit a million. A, million. ANC Industry for you. To call right. I get calls rightness. I mean you get your first call? If you got a boomerang, you gotTA boomer. I won't get my call. See why appeal him kill hands. Okay Longish victory! T! City has a class is a class of maybe had to go. James Talk to us. James Jisr Listener. Say, says name. You know what I mean James Be just listening going once going twice van, so stone bone talked to us. I. What I? What up? Man. Great, great great night man to sit back, listen to y'all man. I'm laughing. Talking to some of other. Business people in A. We've been talking about just different discretionary income and Wisconsin change over the next couple of weeks from OUGHTA, different extra money that was out there from the insurance unemployment insurance, the extra money all of that. That's coming up to end at the end of what this week next week, so. Unless they renegotiate that. A LOTTA PEOPLE AIN'T GONNA had sat type of income so somebody's. We're pay per views that might did a wooded did better two months ago. They might suffer two months from now unless they pass this. Little little stimulus package again. Ah, if people get another little twelve hundred dollars in stuff like that, then it a state of course, but if not a lot of people about to start the mortgage, the there wasn't a. Freeze on people being evicted. That's coming up, so I sent him mortgages. Problem by the hat. A lot of people about the lose they house so. 'CAUSE named been able to pay rent for a couple of months due due to this. Job, back so a lot of people who were spending discretionary income on things like old man fight. They might not do it so I don't think he's going really do that good. They need to just step out the way and let these young guys. Go on and get the money. That would be wasted on these to do. These does need to do a ten dollar youtube. Pepper View Jake Paul did the first time or whoever Paul did the first time. That's what they need to do. Instead of trying to rape you thirty forty fifty dollars for pay per view like it's a real fi in a kennel spiff. I'm really care who? Never disagree you well first of all your own of you pay for it because you want it, so this is the on demand market. They go fight. If people want a bay on them. How you mad at them because they got A. No No, no, I'm saying they need to. I'll put it like this. Me Get your money I. Don't like nobody can hustle up way to get the money to pay for it. That's all on them, but I do know people who probably would be willing to pay for a trial or SOM- ally. Man I got I got old scratch for for for Roy Tyson I'm GonNa wash that sorry. y'All going GonNa get the Youtube I. Know People go making a choice and. That is it Tyson foods the he's got more popularity. Not Saying that just to be just rely. On I'm just I'm just aware of schemes right now. I just feel like that's the scheme and I. It's a head gear type exhibition. It's a distraction. I WANNA. See real food. They doing, they own thing on a own with their own lives I don't even get your. Blaine. Love. Play I mean Tyson being blamed for Charles not having like meteoric success. This is crazy. I think what A. Price Right. It wants to pricing rates and he's saying but an. Is Not against. Just? Their if they could get eighty from us, that's on them and their. Start them they. been knocked out left and right. He System Show Tyson jail like their lives. This. Whatever they want to charge because it's them and. I, it is up to us to say yeah I'M GONNA pay for that I buy them both you are. Just wanted to Click I. All of a sudden became a charter. Hate it when yesterday I'm sorry. This is fantastic. I'm buying. I'm buying. Majority leader Yoda I'm one hundred and we've you and I agree, but I'm just saying I believe. They look at the pricing model anyway, and whatever the price it at. They're gonNA get it right because they have smart people that know exactly. You know what they can charge what they can get away with I. Feel that is going to be more closer like around the ten dollars under fifty or thirty dollars. I might be completely wrong, but I think they can maximize. Get even more your part if the charged at ten dollars rather than the thirty dollars because thirty dollars, they people are going to be scratching their head. Some people are GONNA be scratching their head, and just on need like the guys like us. Not WanNa see those guys because we know. Going to pay thirty dollars ten dollars, they're going to get youngest and everyone. Will say right about that, though like all the deferred payments is up. That's it you know. It was like three or four months. They get the Mo-. You know it was like deferred payments, and it was like even even even. If you like a homeowner. You couldn't convict people you know during this time, so you know things are going to change. Is Coming. Yes, man, I hope I hope you know that. It doesn't hit anybody hard. You know I hope that everybody did take time to prepare and use their money wisely, and and hopefully if you lost, your job found new employment, you know. Let me. Go to Julio what up. With on, guys. You know. This the Charles pay-per-view. Love for it you know the Senate. I place on Saturday. I need to do life parties. I like this fight coming up tomorrow you I fucking hate Tuesday fi screw that she got of work. The already happened you know, bring back the fights. I don't care if we got to pay for them. But I. Miss You know like Damn drying up with all, so you say and do the the weekdays you don't like weekday. It's. Friday Saturday. And if I have to pay for a fight I. You know what I don't care. Just give me fights. Dry Up here. Any NS. Fights Call, Smith. Look at least at least. I'm paying for zone so Gimme Feis on on that platform as it is. To come back, so if I if I need to if I if I need to pay to get something back breeding bringing on. The Tyson versus Roy Jones spat that again and. I queen. If you haven't done so once again and other reminded subscribe to the Youtube. Channel right here at youtubecom forward. Slash the box voice, so if you're listening to this today or in the future new pass on playback on. IHEART tune institure, all those podcasts forms come on back. Go on your phone. Get on your laptop desktop, whatever it is and subscribe to the Youtube Channel Right now we're at one hundred and fifteen, thousand and sixty eight with trying to get to one hundred, fifteen, thousand, one hundred. You know daily go. Let's see where we we're GONNA refresh. Refresh Lizard Drum, roll or something domi fake soundboard guy. What hundred fifteen thousand and seventy three, so we're really coming up on at one hundred men. Urge. Selah frenna subscribe. We're going to go out to looks like Boomerang Training Bay talk to us. I just have them at the beach I. Think My background maybe to let me know. Good Gene! Conversation was that Mike Tyson, I just have to. What was it the Mike Tyson Roy me? Come back to you and get to a few callers. You get the juice. I- I- Brandon Cincinnati. A. Having what? You, said you gone over there, man. I'm good, I don't. PIMP. slagging. ME. Out here, having him ways, but oh. As far as that. Mike Tyson Roy Jones. Upset before I'm not interested in exhibition fights, I, really don't care for 'em. Stasi with all that good news. We got from showtime yesterday. About all the fights they come out with and from what I hear Fox to be as scheduled tomorrow, so you can expect. Fox scheduled to be even better than showtime schedule. Really interested in faked bites I. don't even like them with Floyd. Through the fake vice. Japanese, people and stuff on your watch those. Letting for had to choose a winner I say Mike Tyson. You know the show goes. You know Paris last thing to go. Speed and reflexes are usually first things to going you know Roy, resolve speed and reflexes so I favorite Tyson that one. As far as the Canelo I, really get the into show much, but all got a problem with Callum Smith light because he has a legit champion. Brought to be another world championship belt took a Nilo in some of the names. They were saying before like Toriano Johnson Spike. O'Sullivan Jason Quigley and Willie Monroe yet houses bullshit names, but Tehran lousy. It was saying people. I can't along as a person to strap a legit strap. I'll week. Bygones equine another champion, so got a problem with A. Callum Smith. Gas about it. Man slides showtime of. Cargo I'm really studied about that Djamil inquisitorial fight. Who got early pig? I'm I'm. I'm fifty fifty on your right now. Man, I'm fifty fifty on now. Got A if I had to pick a slightly favored you mail because he's I've seen him play more of only staying Rosario by twice so. y'All slightly favorite male man out heyman that he did it. Stang man if you see what he did. If you look at those fights, none of those flights are super. Expensive fights were like. Super duper stars. But they real competitive fifty fifty fights and the ones that are with the superstar. Put on paper, do so. The man he knows what he's doing over there. Man so I'm anxious to see that flux of mine. That I'm surprised. We ain't, got no. Room on the Fox like because there's a lot of PBC fighters left showtime. Clarence upset. She was. She was. Really, really, mad? I suppose you tomorrow, but other than that may have a go in there. I read. Their Day couldn't finalize her her. It's GonNa. Take them prior another week before they finalize her stuff up. Yeah, but what's up with the Fox? Will you heard anything? He's the he say sued him off a Fox I'll. I thought he meant showtime was going to announce up. A Yeah I heard that that they couldn't. They haven't finalized anything yet, and they were. They worked on it. They wanted her to be part of the schedule, but it just didn't work out. Espinosa even mentioned it, but she's upset and a lot of the talk was that she needs to start checking out offer from Fox and PBC and you know maybe get a fight deal there. Shane enough from BBC because showtime. Is PBC like look we? Ottawa ultraviolent on today and you know. He's with Salida, right? Who's doing business where noser, but it's putting on Kaufman. And SALIDA 's, fighter. Violin on the Bene- vetus card which. Heyman yeah, I, hear you I hear you, but I think you're missing. The point is that if she was with PBC, they would've put her as A. Primary responsibility and pushed her into a card and dictated those terms as opposed to showtime. I think it'd be on an underscored the same way. SELENA's other fighter was on an undercard. She's not going to be a main event PBC card like. If that's I. Don't know if that's a good look like she's going to be on somebody's. Like, maybe it's a event like big fight. Maybe okay fine. She needs her own light listen. Just. Let, listen it this way. And this might sound like so flake stuff, but I'm just going to say like you wouldn't expect the pound for pound best male boxer to to not have his own date. You feel what I'm saying and in. Very well, and that know you can make that argument. You can't say that anymore or ever because his until Bochum listen. F, because this is the truth is like until women's boxing gets as thick. No Pun intended. As, boxing as male by like. They don't have the fighters so that the main did they got? Like women's boxing needs us. It's not like women's boxing brings a whole bunch of women. Boxing Fan they. It's US males well then. I'm not talking about female boxing as much as I'm talking about Clarissa Shields Boxing. Okay, so go down as one of the greatest women fighters of of all time with her Olympic background, and what she did is an amateur combined with the idea currently. She is. My little, my man I! Get your frustration, but you know what your bias to conceal. Here, you campaigning for Charl or an Andre the way that you offer for Clarisa. You only doing it because you would meet to move minutes. She's a girl. But they haven't accomplish nearly not even a half of what choruses on. Olympia Andre was an Olympic. Okay didn't win a medal, but he wasn't. She gold medal twice. He's not too I'm That'll twice Homey I. Mean Oh. Okay so so so because she did one thing more than them. She's greater. Listen I also campaign for Rushie Warren to get more time when he wasn't getting time and have his own cars because he was a multi Olympia and he didn't accomplish the same thing. But my point is that people that are the best at their craft should get that shine, she is. Out Ban the best smell you a wake up. Call. This about numbers may is about numbers. If she did the ratings, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Chance with the promotion if she had the millions that Dole behind you know. They promoted tape motor oil for Food Kristina Hamm. Who knows what she would do wrong? It's about boxing and the best deserve. I get what you're saying and I that's what I want us to go to right so I'm with you on that movement that out. I'm saying idea. That's what we'll get to, but we have to be realistic at time and say that. The same way that we're talking about like Andrea being skillful, but no generating demand excess exactly something. We've like women's boxing, right? And the problem is because of the depth. That's mess mentioned Clarisa probably cannot get make a headline right now, because they probably scratching their head and thinking who'd will against site. Oh somebody zone exactly to to warrants who have this, so she probably would have to be on an undercard of the big fight. That's what I want like the same way as kitschy tender today could not headline in this covert Environments Accardo on the owed she's on. Some she's on that, but that's a damn good fight. Then it's nice. But Also in Olympia and say. I'll get on and undercut because this is not about Obama woman. I don't deserve to be onshore CIANCI. Show. It's about a man man. She got a multiple undergraduate and she heard, or she had on many event, but allman event was different was on the different consensus. She could attract a crowd local crowd out in this current climate is not possible to have to be on the on the call of fights. That job view end they going to be? Mel fights unfortunately, but I'm with you on this. Say those two gills. Achieving that most men's happened and fair, but. That's how it is. That's the reality of men that we have. who slightly was a check I? Think I. Think is already a star I just think her market. Comparing boxing men's boxing is an ocean and she's in a lake. I think what I'm most upset about is that. She put herself out there in. Everybody thought we were going to get the announcement. And, embarrassed her in a sense like somebody should've picked up the she should have known someone of her. Caliber should have known what was going on yet I'm saying she shouldn't have been surprise like a Goddamn powerball in the NBA. That's not all this should work for someone like that, but that's the only real frustration, because the rest of which are seen is not but let me ask you something because you know you you. I don't think that you're like. You're making the connection either as an insider or just Gasson, because correct me if I'm wrong. Showtime announce PBC Comeback Right. Showtime released a statement. and. It said that they were going to announce their full lineup for eight eight spot. Don't make me put my press release. The press release. Go check it. Let me, tell you one. Guy Reggie clearly thought she was going to be on announcement. You've seen it. You've seen the tree. What. Transpired you saw the chain of events? You feel what I'm saying, so no matter what showtime says this poor girl was expecting something to be said curry also not with our so whatever her promoter older right 'cause her promoters Dmitry Salita. Obviously got altuva. Lean on a PBC card is going to be on showtime on October August fifteen. So. Maybe he thought he can do the same for Clarence. Maybe he is, and it has been announced yet. Yeah, listen I. think that's a big part of it is that they needed more time? Adjust again, you. Could you imagine this happening to Terence Crawford? Could you mansion Crawford Sanyo? We got this big fight. We brought to now. You're like she's Crawford. Why you can actually see Crawford. Does she sell out? No, does she sell out influence? Does he sell out in Flint Crop? Options. Money behind her that that the other promotional outfit is laid out for. Shop! In these unrealistic scenarios if you know. Just know about her. People should just know right listen. I. Don't understand why she comes sell in flipped When she goes out there and fights like though she moved back at least next six seven thousand people in those. Tell Mario googly. He's extended the show twenty two minutes on this. Say, one thing I my bed. Lies Bro you on this campaign. Surveys on this. And he's kind of secretly trying to make Oh, if she was a man and it's not about a man. That's not no. No, no see that's your problem. That's where you're taking those. Years ago seven years ago when I was on this show, fighting for flyweights, when I was in this show, fighting for junior bantamweight, and you would clown me and everybody else clown me. I was still here fighting and guess who ended up taking notice after people like me that HBO. Becomes the you know how long we were watching chocolate Tito fight before he got to everybody else and that's trying to say is there is great boxing out there that people don't get to see? So. My Real. Why don't you help magazine? casualness in his right now and tell us what's the super fight that we just lost? Showtime dropped the ball with clarice again. KALISZ sue role. But that's what you're doing that I. Agree with that point already. Man, how could you be pouting? Mark that. Out and I lease it just let. You in. For two minutes about the let me say something because you keep comparing it to all these people right and Crawford is a great situation. No fight announce because no opponent Clarisa. No fight announced no opponent Chen no opponent. Where's the opponent? You. Know what. Happened lose zone is working harder than her promoter because her opponent says you WanNa talk, Clarisa educate the listeners. Her opponent was supposed to be Cecilia. Barak is who who Jessica which is with zone is fighting. Okay? Cool Orissa was willing to come down, but also one is a catch which wasn't gonNA. Come all the way to forty seven saw headlining. Probably. Problem you're not talking. Old She's. She should only have a date before everybody else's. She's got this super fight. Meanwhile, you've got this whole be! Beaten on. Charles Oh doggy. Listen you mixing arguments. You're talking about her being mad at showtime, so don't bring up bubble level fights because showtime announced big stuff, Jamaal Charles versus! Jason reside in a unification, Huge Derby and Ching-kuo. At a time we turned down to offers, just had a great fight with Gillespie. Can and we dying for Charlie? The fight, a good hundred sixty pounder super huge, so don't like it's not the same. You can't say. Oh, we him bumfights overweight, but not showtime. They rolled out a real resume and named about. Give you. A real resume okay well. They rolled out a real resume a schedule. That was actually stayed on that network and been fighting as opposed to. The PBC stable that Joe. That completely left pretty much. Like Google. Google Ratings Google, listen I agree with you. I agree if you don't have the money to put into, but while the fighter. Ratings Chicken H. I don't waste in this argument. If you know the answers Boston, jared talk to us. To pick over no party. I was going to talk about Austin Trout van, but it seemed like y'all brought up the Cannella. Austin trout win like a minute ago. Not even really relevant based on which talking about now, we'll. We'll all the topics again. I'm sorry I lost track of which was talking about. I. Next all next. Man. Burger. Sixty years old man who we are. Come on be. All right, Mr I want to future okay Virgil t Samuel Vargas. That's what we tell them Friday. I can't can't wait just can't. We can't wait to see it I can't wait. I can't wait to see. What was the other topic? Look alum. DALOM, that's a that's a good fight. Ns a credible fight for canal oh and. I think can Nilo stops Carlos. Smith I think that counts. Smith is killing themselves to make one seventy, five, one six and. Excuse once they see, I think I think I think callum is killing himself to make one sixty eight and Let's see is there. Fight been announced yet because if I'm if I'm Callum Smith. Taking that fight if there's a rehydration clause, 'cause I really think that this dude is really really killing himself. To make one sixty eight saw, do we know? Is that official yet or what? It's not official not. Efficient? If, there's a rehydration clause there and I'm team Canada Smith I'm not taking that because that does he seem? It seems way too big for one sixty way to be killing him something once sixty eight and I would not take their fight if I'm team Callum Smith. If not always putting in a rehydration close. I've. You'll right thank you, you know. Him Killing himself to make weight has been talked about for awhile You know less right, but. It's an element. You don't turn Kennel flight because it Canelo fight means money and also means that you know even if you take an l., you can come back strong. You won't lose any credibility over to Geoghegan tech that Canon and moved to one seven five after. Apparently not because Billie, Joe is turned out can. NILO And? SHANECO is also turned out canal so again. I don't think that do. Dues are trying to fight Canelo based off the paycheck I. Don't think those are really really pressed to fight this guy saying they're not gonNA. They're not gonNA fight this guy If if if they're? They're at an extreme disadvantage. I don't think oppressive by the. Why is Billy Joel them down why Sankoh turn them down? Why is he still without a because everybody? The magic carpet fricking. Like it I nothing I think they can do. It does two fighters that you mentioned can do it because they can stay at one sixty eight for a while longer whereas column cannot really wait around, there is really killing himself has like another one fights with to five left. On, it might as well take the bag. And then just move on after that right so. Bro Gotta get that Bay, those dudes listen Derby and changle turned down five point five million, and then turned around, and took the same five point five million to fight triple G, because every fighter is going to do see are. They GONNA Doing Business I. You know what I'm saying like it. They don't care that they would be receiving the. I like you don't care. If our point five is the most money you've ever made in any of your boxing fights. Because five point five isn't the thirty percent of canals purse people in other people's pockets, instead of doing what you're Davis did took seventy five thousand count and pelted asa pockets. He went out there not build us into another spot, and he became Chan now he. He got the big money. You know what I mean now. Everybody's like well. We'll Cannella such a tough fight if I lose might as well have retirement money because he retired the anyway. I Mas. We'll get that retirement money, but if I win in, I ain't get the retirement money. I gotta keep fighting a retire. That's what it is like. Get the hell out here like Ber. It's crazy. How many people turning down offers to fight this? Do like wuss wrong? They. Don't make no sense, but whatever whatever Jonathan what up. Okay y'all. Hear me perfect. Florida for the Vargas and Ortiz I got a size my spell. in regards to the Tyson Roy. I mean this cool nurse. I'm with you especially with the versus the stall argument. I agree with you. One thing I wanted to go out there. Do you think this will be a sanction like divided wbz or You think that's something that somebody should look into exhibition, but it doesn't exhibition, but I won't put it past WBZ. Get involved when I was at the convention. They did bring up trying to sanction. Old Thomas Fighting. We're headgear because so many. WanNa get back in the ring. They need to protect them. Said listen they doing it anyway. We need to start sanctioning these bouts and making them put headgear. or even if it ain't sakes and just put Wbz Belt Online, because that's what they do to promote their their brand and the fight. So that was got my was thinking about In regards to Cannella minutes interesting, because at first I didn't like the Color Smith, and I was chairing in the back like year Andre, even though he had one with one fifty or one sixty, but the more and more I looked into column Smith like that's a legit fight like dude is ranked like number. Two hundred division been Evita's in sweet plant hands ain't available like to me. That's a legit fight so I don't. Don't know why it's Kinda getting shot down. The one thing that is weird is like you, saying people turn it down canal, and it's a two fold thing because canal demand so much money, so the pot ain't that big for the other fighters, but when Floyd was in this position though he got to do, pay per view, everybody fought him in. Nobody turned him down. No matter how big is pot was just trying to. Meanwhile Floyd Pay Guerrero and Ortiz. Two point five million now. He's still made thirty something guarantee from from schotz. It's all about Cannella Dr Listen. They thought they could be little. Floyd who moved up from like one twenty something you know to me when it comes to go, he's a true monster. People really afraid them, so they want retirement money. It's just the bottom line. I, feel you on that. I mean I didn't get. A little bit, but I mean you don't make no sense. Everybody would say when you flopped floyd, it was retirement. Money Lied Berdahl. Didn't turn it down, but I don't know exactly what they got, but that was something that popped in my head. Listen. If you floyd wounded got million. You don't think you don't think Sugar Shane got five. No remember he begged for that. He Beg for that fight. He. Was, do know. Or we do know pack. y'All got more. Count? I'm some item regular dudes? Regular. What about Koto? What about Koto That's interesting I'm Google right now, but I don't know. Not even though I could see that. Eighty four. It was greedy man he. He gave people a little bit of money. Little Bit of, but I'm a double right now. At least I Koko. Bacau makes sense you know. He was the third biggest rows. To Me Koto would. If he was on that list. I would have demand. He can demand a mandatory minimum, but the guerreros. Shea at the Tom I, think he. May, Donna Donna got paid. He got paid for this loves. If you take away the I. Take Away the Glove Person Woody got. I. Don't know you tell me. He got me on this one point fathers. Would I remember it? Maybe a pay per view back in I could get. Out the Giller. Bell Rang Bell Rang, and you give me three things the now. I gotTA check. We shouldn't even check the Koto Mayweather because we know heeded third biggest pay per view star. At that time. He deserved real perse, but Of with the CIA. artnews. Guerrero. Purse! Mayweather and What's another one? Do Maidana. It was saying good eight million jets. Murray's league. Brandon. More is leave. You'll be laying. We say you got like two million. Brother Brother Maurice. MEOW, mayweather may thirty. Donna made thirty three million in the fight to mayweather thirty two. Morning two zero. Who made before? Before that they would be those guys make goes. The second fight I'm sorry. Comparison. Some of those people would have only like half a middle some things. So that that's the reason why you do that, but I don't know man. Let's see here. Damage Kim's up right here. I hate I. Hate when you Google in. It's in the print and then you gotta find it in article goonies like. Hyperlink to that in an I mean. I'll be. Guerrero been making money though after I put him on a Malley still, may one point two first as Danny Damn. Thing was like no, you get money to lose against Floyd, but then you can still make money after because your name especially if you did like half gigging. You namely carries over to the next flights and you can still get a bit more money on top of that right, so guerrero actually may three million. I. Know I know Victor Ortiz victory to this show going along. We get about Victoria Cheese. I think that's definitely. Two point five. Who else. Ricky Ricky Hatton. Different he's different. He brought a country Google at man as your Guy Google I'm. I'm on this one. How much is victim were known as Victor? Yeah I it it. It slake. Aqui finding the same stupid numbers on my I can't find a straight one for the forest. Million guaranteed as the underdog Ortiz. Yup. Ortiz that's a lot. Of guys in his yeah, exactly br I bet you. We Google right now. Let Me Victor I wonder if we keep him finance versus Marcos Maidana. Purse Watch this I hope this comes up. This would be so beautiful. No my guide now look. ME, down so popular Ortiz named. Come on the purse for mayweather comes up quickly. Sheesh. Madonna made a career high three mill. But that was the second one. All right so that'll seems to be everyone on there and double check check check. Oh, you gotta go back to train in a baby. She'd go back to the beach. I hear you girl peace necessarily know stainless right. Gene. Killing. Killing what? If an hour five minutes wherever you know, you gotta hit me up when they see things like that with a man. It's literally. How. You've been there for an hour and finally you gotta be kidding. I went to. See, 'em there. Now. I've been out here. You went to trade before me. Trade just got on the offense out. Minority that other. Allergies pilots on nine. You get I'M GONNA. Be Real what you this Tyson Roy. Johnston has me mad because these guys they had. They have the name to. And they have the need. And then they come on in put on a spectacle on the same night. That is going to be fighting the biggest star of our sport. Where we want everybody to be coming, you know going to see the biggest saw. The best fighter in the world, instead of seeing you know my dad fighting my my mother's on the older brother. I. Don't WanNa. See that Shit. They're taking away from what the sports were. The I'm not in the. Boxing gain, Porna- thought, and I consider myself other story, but leave that ocean back there stayed retired I, hate it when when Floyd keys us by always coming back. No and let these guys build a sport. Where and he's, I don't need it. I don't think fucking headgear and sixteen ounce gloves. No no I don't want that I don't want that stay. Stay out of much for your time has done. You didn't do what you WANNA do in in in your prime. It's your fault. Stay the fuck out here. onto Cannella listen make another was going to work, and I was GONNA. Do You'RE NOT GONNA. Get a canola fight fighting you know. core above or Hogan Adams Centennial. You'RE NOT GONNA. Ask. You can't ask another fight you finding those guys. Okay I'll give him credit he. Virginia is a real fight, but I mean he lost quarrels. I kind of agree committee where I could see other Guy you know, and then I just want such arms. Before you go the dennehy anything I want him to take that Gamble I. If you can't get in the ring with with with the funding you WANNA fight dubbed the second best option is having people talk? Starting to compare Kevin be then be able better than and then you know. Eagles. They're gonNA. Come out and talk so I wanted to take that gamble. That's it. great shows is always keep doing. Bro? 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"Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies? That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So, what are you waiting for your teenager to help around the house? Okay, mom, I empty the dishwasher vacuum the basement and folded the sheets out of the dryer. What Oh and next I'm clean Mittens litterbox in some kind of prank, show or something? That's a camera is an there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations. Apply Visit GEICO DOT COM for details. Here, we go time now for juniors. What is it? The board stuck surely. This is not sports. Talk, keep telling you. Heard if Is Sports Talk Today to ensuring? We'll do it that way all right well. Here's some. FOUND OUT The beef between Mike. Tyson and Don King is officially over I'm Mike. Tyson has been calling. Don King names publicly over the years? We've heard you know calling them rich, slimy, Reptilian, blankety, blank, blankety blank. You know he said all that. Back in two thousand Eighteen Tyson through water on Dr King for touching without permission during the boxer event. They talked about. The beef is washed and ask for Mike's Upcoming Fight Against Roy Jones Jillian September. Does still things Tyson is dangerous as They it is I think so, too. Most water back. Reach for his bottle. Never did. Well, that's good. They washed. I'm glad I never knew what the beef was about. Anyway money money. Money! Money! I mean he's just he's A. You're right. I got my money now. Roy Jones junior bad boy man could law attaboy guy has. Absolutely a great fire, but there's no way that he could clean the me tonight. Even possible I don't even keep on fifty three of fifty four. I'm not really there out even though with Aikman, the beaten whatever they call it. Yeah. You Really Adam down. One more. We gotta fake coming up and leads me. Roy, Roy Jones Junior. What whatever we're going to fight in the. People like that. You need the money here. The only thing we're going to be playing no I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Do. And that's what Mike maybe believe in doing. One thing about boxing UK play fight at all. No because. Charity you count her. It's a phrase of a charity. Raid the money for chairs, somebody. Paid you. For New Keys. Aver. Correctly This Work boxing you play for charity. Match Max. You'll get your ass keys. To kill old acid ring. I'm fighting for the children take. Mike does seem like he's ready. Though I've seen it. All right, thank you junior coming up at the top of the hour. Do you think there should be a second cove at nineteen shutdown? We'll talk about that right after this. You're listening. Harvey Morning Show.

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"All right. Here we go. Junior is here with what sports docked yeah. Oh. Oh, got it. Today Listen Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Junior. The fight has been pushed back to November. Twenty eight was September twelfth. They're gonNA. Move it back to November twenty eight. Now, we never did get honest we got who we're. GonNa pay for this. You know you won't initial. Yeah, they had the movie back because somebody didn't look shape. And it wasn't Mike Tyson. Since Yeah, we love Roy Jones junior to love and show yeah yeah. See, Roy on stand. Tyson. Trained in two. Give Him Oh time. Him So motown. Forgot. Eighth. That's my holiday. Yes. How old is Roy Anybody? Four. Oh, it's no want. Majors Mike. Yeah Mike. Fifty four, a Mike and Fifty, four, fifty, one. Got? All. Mad. All. The reason why we got all our money, all Michael Airbus seeing know what this is about. Well, see both of them. All right. It's not going to be what you think it is and going to be this great fight. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA see a Lotta of punches. A Lot. Of course, the timing is gone in a quick quick twitch muscles don't file like they used to. But the problem that Roy has is if Tyson do hit him. His ass is going to. Asleep. He Hits Him. He's going to. That's a special place. That's way you sleep a union. No you going. Love a man I'm going to bed. Then I'M GONNA. Go Sleep. Now you fit in a subsidy. Very closely, right for you go to sleep that what you said. Our sleep well. But, also, you know the new president trump called NBA players very dumb, very nasty for kneeling during the. National. Anthem. Wild. Two words and that is there any other word man? VOCAB? Luke. This is a guy who says he went to the high school in. The. Nation. Yeah and but his niece has said no, no, they got him in this. He's not. He's. Look their neely period. You're not changing the narrative this time. Because those black guys to play in the NBA? No, they wouldn't tall and he had a uniform then targets on. Right Bank. That's exactly why they not playing. Junior coming up at the top of the hour. Tell me something good. Some good news for. You're listening to. Morning. Show.

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"Saddana show here on ESPN LA guest co host today, Michael Thompson and DeMarco far triple g Cannella this Saturday. Wanna thank Jim Lampley for joining us earlier. Roy Jones, junior gonna. Join us in a second. Again, triple g canal tomorrow. Coverage begins at five o'clock on pay per view. Now, ROY, I know you're, you're coming out with us, but you were on this morning with key in the guys, and we heard this happened this morning with you in those guys. Everything actually that wasn't it. Sorry here it I want to get into ring which. Don't know if you want that smokey. What ROY. Oh, man, I'm knock. ROY was bad, Brooklyn. That's all legal. ROY, what is key thinking out, figure out already positives. They bucket forget. He is six foot four with eighty inch, reach sixty pounds the out to get close to ROY. Recently ain't no problem to me. Well, we're going to have kion after you. We're gonna ask him what the hell. He was thinking. We'll we'll, we'll pass the message along to you a little later. We'll see. So this fight, ROY. We were talking to Jim about kind of the animosity between the two sides, but let me ask you about the styles, right? Abel Sanchez was claiming that Cannella was running canal says, he's boxing, how do you view what happened in the first six rounds or so in the first fight will happen the first six where I was two things happen. 'cause no camera show that whatever he wants to do, he could do dance g soda of canal told down and allows him to that. He could do what he wants to canal look Khanal allows them to. So the first fight basically to fight should have been called a draw. I thought you wanna buy Reiner to grant got caught a talk 'cause nobody treaty dominated. But in essence, he landed the most punches canola end. The most power shot was basically, it sounds like a daughter me anyway, but in essence, who determined the way to fight went was Cannella look another wanted to fight you wanna fight. Can no didn't wanna fight to win the fights, but that being Condello decided winter gca dominate and went to g couldn't. All bad blood being spilled out there talked about on the trash talking. Are you expecting a brawl tomorrow night? The start this fight or more of a technical fight? Are we gonna possibly see? Some kind of semblance of maybe hyg learns. We're hoping to see. Well, I don't think you'll see quite head with her because you don't have the same two participants as head with hers. I were head when heard you Hackworth who came out of Paul, everybody d exact same. He didn't care who you were was Godzilla with King Kong with Mary LeBow, Pete. He didn't care who it will get through the same. And so the tummy time McCain, my intent to break your right here. He threw no matter who he thought d, two guys. If I different, they know how to make adjustments as according to who front of them. So you can't really expect a Heather her how ever you could expect for a really good fight though because both guys want to win badly and both guys feel like now the only way to win is by knocked the other gap. So this is it's very, very interesting. Really. I don't wanna put you on the spot, but I I wondered, did you buy the contaminated beef argument from from Cannella and does that factor into how he fights tomorrow where my thing would contaminate the beef field? It's hard to buy that when you know that that's been. A thing that people have been having happened to them for quite some time. Now we've kinda hard to just by their street out. However, I don't have never seen canal as far as the person who I thought would she. Because right now they've been tested right now. He just as good right now or better to be dangerous. I fight not the first, but he did try to beef up would have been put on weight this time. He took it off and put on his much, but I don't know about the contaminated beat. That's a subject that try to steal from because it's a whole subject and hawk me to believe that canal would even try to cheat like that because I don't really see if being that kind of person. So too contaminated beef could have been issue. I don't know. But regardless if that was the issue that if he gets knocked out this hand, they're in a kinda put to their baby. He was juice. But if he doesn't and he's getting tested to tan, they will know. It was to honest mistake that he made in ROY in Vegas canal is kind of like the house fighter, like how Oscar de LA Hoya used to be kind of like how Floyd Mayweather Ila. So when it comes to the judges, if your triple. Oh, gee, you cannot you don't want to risk it and leaving the judges hassle. Triple g has to go for the knockout tomorrow. Doesn't he when? No, he doesn't have to go for the knockout because here's the bad thing about a knockout. Any professional knows this when you go for that guy you to us acceptable to be knocked up. That's a bad thing in boxing play always told us his kids to back out. So when you go for the knockout you yourself probably end up being the owner of the end of that because now everybody throws has not got on the guy sees it and he can actually kit you why you turn out Roy Jones junior, joining us here know multiple time champion with us on ESPN Los Angeles. I'm look DeMarco brought up the stuff about the contaminated meat or whatnot. Clearly Abel Sanchez has been using that to kind of get at Canelo. I'll do you like that strategy. I know they're trying to sell a fight, but do you like that strategy? You know, maybe it becomes too much bulletin board material. What do you? How do you feel about all that with. Kind of strange to me because when you look at it and using that strategy, you basically saying that I feel like he is a better pilot the my father because unless I can lure him into a street brawl the my father really can't beat him. So it making your like he's the weaker product going in because you shouldn't have to be on our pick and Condello to try to get him to sit down with Joe filing your fighters. If you couldn't have to go out there to do or make whatever judgments he's he has to make to be canal. You shouldn't have used at b. be the one using different mental tactics to try to upset nettle. We have gone down a list of their the greatest middleweights of all time. And I stumbled across this name, Roy Jones junior, actually competed at middleweight. So I wonder, ROY versus Cannella at your prime or ROY voices triple g in your prime, what would happen? No, I I don't like to. I don't like to save stuff I'd ever caused didn't happen at the time, but in to be honest, which is just just just a straight street. Note when a came. To fighting middleweight whether it was a fight, whatever the showdown, no matter what it was when I thought they'd midway. And I found so down by prime, I didn't lose rounds, let alone fights. I didn't lose around these guys and trying to figure out who won the first matchup what I thought God of that. Cal when I fought James Toney happy, I beat them so bad that it was not even a question of not wanting to fight, but who is the best fighter owned a pet editor. So it's hard to put that in retrospect with these guys because they're in a different era a different time, and they do things at different wake me. I didn't leak guys like I wanna sit like unlike like like he did chimpanzee deal for two years or four years untoward and they call ountry war with retirement of your water pound pound fighter going on. They have, no, he has to see me. So I had a different demeanor than these guys have. So it's not really fair to put them in the category with me, our savage beast. They're not that what was it? Roy Jones. One are nine and number ten. Is Roy Jones cellphone. Roy Jones junior with this year, what would be next here for these two guys. Should they fight again, potentially if it's if it's a decision. Wait to the coast fight and tastes them what I like about boxers. And this is how I always see boxing, if you had a close fight with a guy because until we get a real clear winner, we not satisfied with looking more kids and pick out until Marquette, finding not pick your nobody was satisfied. The people outside wouldn't the the people Mark here side wouldn't that bad, but get other fight between until he got out. Nobody was headed fat that affect gourmet when he said in back because he wouldn't buy two after you got knocked down, then he, yeah, so nobody was satisfied until they code that store that book. And that story got close when he knocked about family. So they have another interesting fight. Guess what we don't want to see if I put him back out there. We want to know who the best fight between Chippucci and canal. We wanna know who the best and we don't wanna know who next to the best wanna know who else can get them hard time. We want over the best between them to then we'll move onto the next yet. I'll never forget your pack. I'll call. He's not getting up Jim. I was there. I couldn't believe look dead. Yeah. Did you think he was dead. That you would tell by the way he fail and he didn't move at all. I wanted to hit the floor on the couch that doesn't move at all. Then me unconscious, nothing against him. I mean, to happen to the best of us, but when a guy hit the and does not nothing move he's getting and when I saw he hit the floor and not nothing Mugo him until he not getting up. That's it, ROY. I got one quick one last one here. The heavyweight division, who's the best guy there? I mean, we've got the guys there. I know we all see Joshua wilder, but who's the guy, in your opinion, that's the best there. Absolutely. It's hard to say, and I'll say that is because you got Josh went wilder who are both bang on the door being the best. But you can't count out Tyson fury until somebody beats and nobody beat him yet. And he's six mad. He don't want to count on death row on crisco and the Tara Kisco and his brother was ROY was dominated the visit. So he can't run the crisco off their high horse made it so that other people could get titles when they picked him of his title. That's Josh case ever. Parker became cherish that's went wild wilder became champion, but nobody did that until he knocked out Kisco so we can say what we want to say, but we can't take from very yet because nobody has beaten yet. Then he'd beat yourself up pretty good, but ain't no other opponent beat him. Yet there is Roy Jones, junior and beyond the call for triple g canal tomorrow. Coverage begins at five o'clock. Live on HBO, pay per view. Heiki wants to chime in one more time, ROY, knock ROY up. He told me to play. Right. He's coming up next. So I'm gonna ask him what the hell he was thinking. All right. I will let you know what he's thinking thinking or what was he drinking. Thanks for coming on. We appreciate it. I take Roy Jones junior where this year I t son's next Mike go, you ready to grill him see smart. He's at the gym. I don't know. We'll find out. We'll ask keys gonna stop by just a second. Yeah, Sodano show here on ESPN LA Michael Thompson democra- far, guest co host today. Keyshawn going to join us here in a minute. Thanks to Roy Jones. Junior, thanks to Jim Lambley joined us. If you missed them, you could always subscribe to the podcast in the listen tab of the SPN app and you can listen to it. There. We are giving away in the six o'clock hour, an autographed gloves signed by both canal and triple g the way to win it. You have to follow both me at Georgia, Donna ESPN or Ange cues me ESPN Los Angeles. You have to follow both and we will choose a winner from the people who follow as of today. So there you go. So at George Saddam ESPN with a may, look for the blue check marks for both at ESPN Los Angeles, and we'll pick a winner in the six o'clock hour. So that's how you do it. Follow on. I g for both accounts, but I wanna talk to. Key. Because again, if you missed earlier, apparently, Roy Jones junior was also on with the morning show and key Galbraith. I want to get into ring which you man. Know if you want that smoky. Oh, man. I'm not ROY up whatever it was bad, Brooklyn. That's where you're gonna get. Show kilo Braves, so we're trying to locate key. It is five o'clock on Friday, Michael show. Busy lobbying says what v a six shot right about now. Well, you know, we, you saw the shots. You see that we had shots my last day on the morning, show bottle tequila. It's still sits in Chris morale is the studio sauce. Did you take that Modi took just two. They may have taken two or three more than me as in TNL's e is an empty. We emptied the bowels, but to say still in there the empty body empty bottles. Okay. As a sign, this is joins his last day in the morning show nice nice. That was pretty much it. But either way before that. Let's talk about a couple of other things. It's talking about the Rams this weekend. They're taking on the cardinals big favorites against the cards damore go, I want to ask you the Rams were formed four last year as we wait for key. At home, why the struggles at home? You think you know, Sean McVay just answer that question. It's more about who you played, you know, Philadelphia came to town. You had a chance to beat Seattle. You shouldn't have beat them. I mean, it was a great play by Earl Thomas. Most people said it was a bad play by Todd Gurley, but it was a great play to get the ball out right before he crossed the goal line. So I mean, that would be six wins there that would be more acceptable. So they were in every game. I don't think they got blown out at home. It's not as bad as it looks, but the stats are the stats, your foreign four. That's got to be better, but they didn't make the playoffs. First and foremost every head coach says, you gotta win, win the division. Second thing you have to defend your home turf. If you wanna make the postseason, we'll the Rams didn't do that, and they still made the postseason. So it tells you what those stats and those numbers are worth. But for your home fan base when you're trying to build like the Rams are in southern California, reconnect with your your existing fans and create new ones. You have to send them home, happy. Let's we'll get to that with key here. I want to get. His thoughts on that, but key as we just played a moment ago had Roy Jones junior. We just had on a second ago and said this to him this morning, I want to get in the ring which. Know if you want that smoky. Oh, man. I'm not ROY up. Bad, Brooklyn. That's where you're gonna get me out. Key. So what were you thinking they're going at ROY like that. Oh, man. Roy's a good, longtime friend, and I just wanted to let him know old and wants to challenge him in the ring. We can always, you know, shadow box. Well, at six hundred, four key in your fighting style would resemble Ali Larry Holmes or Anthony, Joshua. Men put it this way, Michael, I never have broken ribs, clams football going across the mid on. I'll be damned. If I get an arena with championing and get my real smart that you know you about the same size as George Foreman. I think you could tell it what charge. The old George woman. I don't think I can have to that. Well, that was teasing. Hey, look, I was talking to MAC and he was on the other end of the phone wasn't worried about being closed up on Mike go. He was trying to sell you on the. He was trying to sell a ROY that you had an advantage on him six, four to sixty two sixty. He's gone fifty to six and I'm not even. I'm not even listening to Michael. Well, Bahamas Ali. Call me. So we actually we toll ROY. You were coming on and we asked him, we'll ask you what he was thinking, and this is what he said. Thinking with thinking or what was he drinking. Boy, you know, ROY. That's one thing boxes I can. There's some of the best MAC top you're going for God, they can talk trash, can't they key? Did you want her to fight or did you, you're going to suck up off of a neighbor tomorrow? No, Michael, I didn't. I'm not going to be. I'm not gonna be able to watch it. I'm going to watch UCLA play, Fresno state. So it's not going to be able to watch it. Now you're getting paid to do that. No, I'm just I got some some friends that you sell eighteen some kids that I know in my godson plays in UCLA so I'm gonna watch him play. Are you a boxing fan though? Do you like fight? Amber? I'm a boxing fan, a degree that it makes sense to watch depending on what is in the rain. Okay. Do you have a pick for this fight? I mean, I'm assuming triple Jesus only right. No, I you know, that's like right on the fifty fifty. I guess everybody you asked. Yeah, it just depends. It's a coin, Tom. Just how much meat they were eating. Hockey. So I asked Marco about the Rams foreign for record at home, and he gave us kind of his thoughts. He basically said that Sean McVeigh said, look at the teams, they played at home. The schedule was a little more difficult on that end. What do you make of teams that that could struggle at home? Do you buy that? It's it's the teams that came into the Rams house. Well, I think it's a couple of things. I think the Rams they really don't have a last year. They really didn't have the genuine home field advantage. They were all you know, the new situation for them, the fans really. They showed up, but did they really support him? Did they stand up on third and three and they really get into the game, or were they just there because they just wanted to see what the Rams capable doing, what you can look at the teams that they played at home last year, but they're gonna play similar teams again, this year that are very talented in good. I believe the Philadelphia Eagles come back into town. They got the Minnesota Vikings in town. The charges are not a cake, walk in the park there down. So when you look at the roster, I mean the teams that they're going to face on their schedule, they still got tough teams on his schedule. So that's just a bunch of nothing saying, well, look at the teams that we play. That means nothing any, but you you do have to send your your fan base home, happy. The people your ticket buying public, you have to send them home happy. So it's incumbent. Upon each team to win at home, you have to win at home. I mean, that's the one thing that coaches always say, take care of business at home, and then we can. We can figure out the road. Remember when you guys won the Super Bowl hot, you guys do at home in Tampa undefeated to win the put doing the playoffs or regular season. Regular c. pretty Tampa was always an advantage point breath or fan base. The mean we only time we struggled. I think we, I think we lost. I wanna say loss to Pittsburgh that year at home, that's really the only glaring loss that I could think of leaks into you sixty six. That's too. Yeah, but we lost the Pittsburgh and who else? Oh, I don't. I'm gonna have to look back at this guy Joe now, but I remember I remember the Pittsburgh game because I was I was real mad those pissed off. I remember that game. So you got to win your games. I don't think the two of the good record at home mad at who who were you mad at your feelings? You lost to New Orleans to New Orleans? Now, I was mad at. I was mad at the way we play game one. By the way game. One of the season they lost. We got dominant. You know what happened there, right? Like you got you. Everyone was like, oh, they're overrated. They're never gonna, win. Gruden stinks. He's not as good. He's in the magic. Keyshawn can't play any more. That was like my fifth year in the league from Rome. No, I it it. It'll be interesting to see that. I liked the Rams. I know that the the hot pig for a lot of people right now certainly like to see them make deep run into the playoffs. But you know, there's some other teams in the other part of the NFC that's not going to go away easy like the Green Bay Packers or or the Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints and get it turned around after that, the boxing against Tampa Bay, I'm sure Atlanta and Carolina sitting near Kansas City. I mean, I can't see any Seattle goals and they lose the Denver on the road, but they're not gonna go away easy. So the Rams has got gotta do with coach, say DeMarco one game at a time. Would you say many time? Would you start Rogers? Would you play him? He can play minutes a whole. It's. Oh, you make are playing because he hasn't practiced. Yeah, he's hurt or whatever. Yeah. I mean, all he's not hurt. He approves man for desperately thing. Go out there and play. He's fine. He's, he knows he knows the Astor. It's the Minnesota game. He can't afford. To get loser Minnesota at home. In the next time you see them again, it's going to be in their stadium you, you just can't do it. And I don't believe that he's hurt to the degree that he can't play. Tiffany can't. Yeah. Tape an Advil to it, right. Get out there and play tape an Advil to get out there and play. How does a loss like I believe I believe he can play 'cause he certainly played in the second half and I understand what people would say. It was like, oh, they shot him up, you think they can. You don't think they can shoot him up again. How does a loss like that affect the beer's key is there's no way they should've lost that game. I don't think it would affect them because they, they're, it's a new head coach with a young somewhat of a young team, and he's trying to just teach them how to continue to just keep fighting at it. And they also know what they went up again. If they lost to Kaiser, then after different situation, if if era was healthy and he stayed healthy, the whole entire any problems wanna lose anyway, what the hell in back what they will have any USC man. I don't know why don't you ask them when they come back from Texas. Hey, that'll be a good one for you. What what the hell happened? Y'all because I can't. I. I had a move in the Stanford anyway, so I had him losing. I had him losing to Texas this week, but I again this morning I, I mean, how many times are you going to change this? I when you talk the Trojan people and they were so you know, when I talked to bunch of SE people yesterday, like friends of mine that are deeply into the program, and they were so mad that I just felt like, you know what I think s he's gonna win this game because the coaching staff and the coaches have to feel this pulse, these people that's not very happy. So which means that they gotta be digging deep in knowing if they come back home when anything less than the w it's not going to be pretty. It will not be with Klay be on the hot seat there. Again, I think he would have to look to make some subtle changes, but then. His staff because Claes met the one getting all the heat right now. All the heat is on t Martin, so he's gonna have to the loyalty things going to have to go out the window if they do anything short of pretty good display offensively in Texas, and they have to win the game, losing a game and putting up seven points is gonna cost you some, it's gonna. It's not gonna be pretty. I came in. Thank you so much for making the time for us man, and you don't fight ROY that don't fight right. Michael wants to get you beat up. Don't do it. I almost beat up shame mostly couple of weeks ago. Me arrested in Orange County. With all of Michael's friends in orange. That's right. That's right. That's right. We know we mean my friends. Mike. That's key. I check out the morning show our six to ten each and every weekday here on the station. Keyshawn trav- acacia, nosy and Travis so great stuff. They're coming up next. I do wanna get into USC a little bit further with you guys because I actually think that this one, he's alluding to something that makes sense here who has more to lose this weekend, Texas or USC, and there is one answer to this and I'll tell you next. Thanks to key who stopped by their Roy Jones junior was in that cut. He was on before key and Jim Lampley. If you missed any of them, you can always subscribe to the podcast in the listen tab of the ESPN app for these Sodano show. We're giving away an autograph glove, triple g and Canelo in the six o'clock hour. This is how you get a chance to enter your way into this. You gotta follow me at George Sodano ESPN Georgia. The j. look for the blue checkmark on Instagram, and you have to follow ESPN Los Angeles on Instagram, and we will select a winner in the six o'clock hour sometime in the six o'clock hour. So canal Alvarez. I had an interview with him last. Week, if you missed that, that will be the last segment of the show today at six, forty, five. You're to want to tune in to hear what he has to say, if you missed it, so then they speak English. He does, but not great. Yeah. So I did the interview in Spanish because here's I've learned this with baseball players. If you talk to them in their native language, they're they're way less prone to giving you cliche their way more authentic. So for me, I just would rather talk to them in Spanish. Make them feel comfortable. And then quick translation of each of the question in the end, you translated the whole thing after asking, why an interesting? Yeah, can't wait to hear that. Just six. Forty, five. It'll be the last segment today here on the on the show. Yeah, it's not easy and thanks tomorrow by the way, we'll put that together because he did a great job because we had to go back and do it. I didn't want do live because we only have a financial amount of time. We don't kidding. So, yeah, you only get six, seven, eight minutes or whatever it is with him. So we just went and said, let's ask him the questions, the Spanish and we'll just put it back. Are you are you by Lindo. I was was, could speak Spanish growing up in. Miami with Cuban parents. Did you learn English first or Spanish? I show I learned Spanish. I because my parents both worked imigrants they're, they're not. They're not staying home. So they were working multiple jobs and grandma raised me. So grandma raised me speaking Spanish. So how'd you learn? English? I learned English twofold. Sesame Street and my dad. My dad's spoke perfect English. Because when he was in Cuba my grandfather owned a seafood distributor, so my dad actually grew up. My mom grew up very middle class. My dad grew up somewhat wealthy in Cuba and he went to a boarding school in American boarding school. So he knew English. Okay. My mom speaks with a heavy accent. My dad when he was alive, could speak it like the like just us. So I was able to learn English through my dad. And yes doesn't mean you. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Ratio Irish. Irish, bilingual EDM. No, no, I am not bilingual sort of, I know a little bit of Korean, German and Spanish plus. Pretty good. Yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah, I actually wanna play a game with both of you later. Maybe in the six o'clock hour. I wanna see how accurate your Wikipedia are. Okay. Because I feel like there's we compete. You never really know, right? Like some of the stuff gets entered in by random people, so you never know what's in there. Okay. So I'm gonna. We'll do some Wikipedia facts with you guys. A weight is going to be wrong. I got some facts on Jeff Bezos, you know, Jeff Bezos? Yeah, the Amazon guy. He's also a kid to grow up in Miami, like you know that. Yeah, he now I mentioned earlier like their who needs this one more USC or Texas. I honestly think that it is USC and some of the reasons key outlined earlier is this would be the second time that we've seen a rough start for you have see underplay Hilton, and I talked to a couple of people this week and they're like plays cool, but it's like, I don't know if he's the guy to get us back. And when you start hearing that kind of talk, that's never a good thing. Now. I root for a guy like Klay Hilton who worked his way up right the, you know, he went from coordinator position coach on stuff to being the guy. He was Sark's position coordinator, all that stuff to me like he's such a nice man and he's recruited great talent. I think as ki pointed out, it's a lot to do with some of his decisions on his coaching staff, but can he be the guy to hire the marquee assistance like that starts to play into the conversation too. I think it's not just about. What he can do as a coach who he can manage and who he can bring here. So I think there's a lot on the line because hermit is still on the honeymoon whip, Texas. This is clay's what third season as the guy, not an interim guy. So I think there's a lot of pressure on clay here, especially because you know, they are desperate. They thought they were back with Sam darnold and it just didn't end up being the case going on a Texas Texas kind of huge program of course on riches program second Richardson country. But they've been underachieving SC, I dunno, maybe they're not being realistic, the SEC Allom and SE supporters expect them to be the Matt liners or the even the Sam darnold teams got a young freshman. Maybe they just need to take a step back and say, you know, we're not going to be the dominant team that we're used to seeing right Dr DeMarco because don't look like it anymore. Well, like boxing, this is just the name, even do blow Texas away. Not Mack Brown tex-. It's not real. This is a down Texas, so I was gonna actually argue or try to argue the other way. Look up. You lose to Maryland if you're Texas and you beat Tulsa by seven points that's not going to fly in Austin. No, yeah. They're not used to this. So if you take it on the chin versus USC your seats gonna get hot that. I mean, this is a big enough name for them that if you beat USC that might say she ate your your fan base a little bit. It's not enough for them. But I mean, if if you drop to to USC after losing a Maryland, like you said, barely getting by Tulsa, it's going to be ugly in Texas for that coaching staff yet. Ain't gonna be. Yeah, especially at home. Big game. Yeah, everybody's going to beat us be pumped up. Texas, I think is a must win for them more so than SE. No doubt. I mean, that's fine. I just don't think Harman's still on the honeymoon. So yeah, you need to turn the program around, make it in your image. All that kind of stuff like he's got. Like in your three people expect, especially because of the results. They've had two years ago, like everyone thought last year they were supposed to be in the playoff. That's where did you expect SE fans expect them to be at this point in the national championship hunt? Well, I think that they feel that they deserve and I think look when they're great college football is great because they represent the entire west. I. SEO Notre Dame. They deserve to be in the playoff conversation, and they're not that of this year. No, p ESI Fazul expect key in those guys will. I think that that's the expectation year in year out for a program like USC it's well. I don't want to say it's never going to be like when Pete Carroll was here. But if you're still holding on to that, I mean, you're going to be waiting a long time that was a once in a generation type deal. Well, you know what? You guys can tweet us at Sodano ESPN if you're a USC family, what is a realistic expectation for USC at Sodano ESPN's or you can tweet us coming up. Next can Alvarez's trainer. Abel Sanchez, the man talking all the smack. He's going to join us in just a moment. Live from Las Vegas, triple gca Cannetto this weekend Saturday, five pm when the coverage begins on HBO pay per view, but Abel Sanchez coming up.

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The 'Fighting on a Corner with Iron Mike and Uncle Snoop' Episode

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The 'Fighting on a Corner with Iron Mike and Uncle Snoop' Episode

"Hey there. Because you're listening to this podcast, we blew I. Want you to know this one. We forgotten love you in two. We WanNA. Learn more about you help us make more content. You'll love by filling out a survey. You can find in the description of this podcast. You'll help us out a ton, and you'll have a chance to win a blue t shirt, hoodie or a pair of air pods. The appreciate. You hope you're staying safe and want you to enjoy this podcast. What everybody, welcome to another week of the Corner Podcast, cal Dan's me here with the old man on his hail I am still in Puerto Rico I. AM sweating so crazy right now. The humidity today is ninety eight percent. I'M GONNA come back a new man I will be smaller than Angelo Dawkins mark my words. That is the goal right now. Thank you guys for tuning and we have a packed show for you today. We're talking boxing Mike Tyson is officially coming back. Going to try to wheel back my bet with dray, it's not maybe maybe he just gives me a little leeway. We'll sit. We got. We got like fifteen minutes to get to that point in the show. Let's see how he's feel and by them. Maybe the claw kick in I'll have a fighting chance, and then we're also talking. You have Joseph Benefit as loses again. What's in store for him moving? Moving forward and we have a lot of people returning boxing this week. Top rank wrapped up. So that means zone golden boy are taking baton and running with it. We also have showtime now seeing their full calendar, so we have to talk about those fights as well to start off though Dray, we're GonNa put me in a good mood before and try and put you in a good mood. Baseball is back. People know that we are baseball. Fans on this show. We don't talk about it often because a combat sports podcasts, but dammit. My Yankees come back today Garrett Cole Bay by the time you listen to this, we may have one would. Most likely would have won if we've lost. Don't contact me on social media. I'm going to be very very downtrodden. If we lose this first game, there's only sixty games this season. We need everyone that we can get. My Yankees are winning the ring. But how optimistic are you about your squad? Drill the White Sox I'm mean look man. It's all everything's up from us, everybody's young. You know I mean we got a few Oh Jeez. You got in Carcione. Older now, just money dollar I mean, but we're loaded eloy men. Is it just kind of sucks? copay won't be pitching this year. He's taking the year off for reasons that don't know why, but dude. We're playing with house money right now. Sixty Games. It's easy for easy. The expanded playoffs we should make the playoffs. This expanded playoffs had bad for for the Yankees and the dodgers. three-game series are the pits. We don't want to trip up against someone. And even if we get down in first game, you've got to exhaust your entire bullpen to win the next two. It's just crazy I ate that idea. collusion there colluding to keep my Yankees from a championship as what it is. But not, really you guys are loaded Tim. Anderson is one of the fun. Is Baseball players I've seen in decades. Do our team is full of Dominicans intimidates? backflips everywhere. I love it know they're just fun. Usually I try to hate on everything around you, but in this case I can't even front you're you have a fun team? I like watching them I liked watching them. Even the Inter squad games leading up to this season. How Damn I'm not mad at the white sox right now. Hope you guys when that division because Cleveland. They're not that great and I WON'T BE CLEVELAND. Our biggest competition is going to be all swings. The twins are going to be. either. We've watched it so tough last year. They got. Josh Donaldson so you know the twins can be looking good this year, but again massage Louis Robert like we look. Good. I just pitching, taking the next step. Lido took a Houston last season and not Lopez do the same. We Got Dallas Kaikal. Who's just an innings eater? Sixty gays man. This spring and I wasn't sure we're going to have a baseball season, so sixty games is better than no games. I don't. How do you feel about whoever wins if they're going to put an asterix, don't just assume the Yankees in the wind and the dodgers actually stack team. Dodgers do doubt the dodgers, though I've just counting the dodgers dodgers like they do most playoff series when it comes down to a world series not no astor's like I. Don't put an Asterisk by the Spurs winning in the crazy short and season in the NBA Tim, Duncan and David Robinson got to ring right like I. Don't count that as an answer as it's happened twice in baseball, who last team I believe. It was the Blue Jays to win it. Off, of the strike. and I think they went back to back. In those years, so they want regular and they'll offer strike. Yes, so I mean, I. Don't put an Asterisk on that it. It's truly a sprint, I think. This season's more unique than any. We've seen in any other sport just because you need that depth this season. Do so Wassall just got just hit with the covy. Oh, yeah, playing tonight! We don't even. Helps you a lot, but just think about like the injured list now like fantasy baseball guy so the detail in the injured list usually for to experience four. Because you have no idea how many guys are gonNA. Come Down with his shooting. They're all traveling like you don't know the whole national team. Go down like you have no idea what's about to happen. And! It makes it intriguing, but. This is truly unlike any other baseball season usually strike shortened seasons. They don't end in a strike. They usually start with strike. You know what I'm saying like the just short because something like that. This is different like we're going. We have a schedule. That's specifically sixty games. And it's like. Do you have to death? You have to be healthy like if somebody gets hurt. It's a wrap. You guys like Mike. Trout who may or may not play the whole season. He's got a kid on the way, so he could be offered two weeks two weeks US ten games. Of the season s crazy. Yemen. It's going to be wild I'm. Don't know what's going on. Person doesn't know how to turn off the alarm outside Puerto. Rico is a whole different place. There you go finally. Shut it off, No, I the my Yankees. Because last year David is back. Last year. We played almost the whole season like that right like we played with triple eighteen last year. Everyone was hurt. We did okay. Our bullpen is our strong point. We've Lost Chapman to the COVID for a little while, but hopefully better now than later. If he had cash Cova, so it's like okay. He comes back. I have faith in what we can do. It. Let's be honest. Everyone gets hurt our team over damn time anyway, so if we can just keep them healthy for forty games, and we have rotational pieces to move in to get everyone fifteen twenty games of rest. I think the benefit for all teams. This season is the winds count right? World series counts I. Don't think stats count for the first time in forever in baseball. Someone gets four if four hundred. That's an asterisk. No one's going to break the home run record. No one's going to break the strikeout record, right? No one's going to break the winds record. So who cares if you play? Forty five games are sixty. As long as your team wins, that's the only thing that counts for this year, so I don't expect a lot of my ankles players to play fifty five games for what we'll alternate off days. We got a very deep team. Everyone will play forty five and try to keep them healthy for what remains. What does usually two months of baseball season is now the entire season so a. Winning though like. If you start slow, then you're going to have to play hard. Any yet we're not starting again. We live the pace last year with everyone injure. I think our backups are battle, tested and proven other teams could not say the same. People started on down another other teams. They depended on trade. Deadline's bringing in new acquisition and. All that's not going to necessarily happen this year. the trade deadline might be fucking nuts. Though who knows three weeks, dude, there might be some starting pitches fly fine around here like. Quicken early, this whole season's going to be k asked, and I'm here for this is going to be fans and I wish if there was one thing that they would do. I guess next week. We'll talk about the NBA because they'll be back in. Actually I would like them to amplify the sound of the ball in the bag. Like when when the when the bet hits the ball, I would like to hear that amplified like the crack is if I can't hear the fans, give me something. I want to hear like. Only sound like I'm always fascinated with this out. I feel like you'll hear the players on the field you. Might people don't do that for spring training. Yeah, I mean. It was good like when I think Anthony Rizzo was miked up hit like a double was talking shit the entire time around the base. mookie Betts last year was might up. He was like Oh. Hold on I gotta go. Catches fly ball and he runs casualties. That's a little farther than I thought like. That's one. You don't have these other things. You have these methods that you've already tested a lot of these are. Real baseball in the field you stand around a lot. Well just talk. You make up one yeah Mike up one outfielder infield. Okay, maybe not. First base got to do a Lotta Shit. Like maybe can mike up the Infield, but you can make up an outfielder on every team. Just get some different. They're standing around a lot of time, so we'll see what baseball comes up with. I'd like to know cardboard cutouts. Those are funny. I'm trying to figure out out my face one of those. Mind that the official sound does it sound is weird as it doesn't like pro wrestling. Or Boxing top-ranked. Did it like it doesn't sound that weird to me? Is feels more place with baseball. Swimming mattering. Who I think TNA had like crazy like. We just talked about that. We recapped it on our last show, but we didn't talk about Sammy Versi, and like they had not a laugh track, but they have like cheers track throughout the entire thing. So, you really couldn't like. Gauge what the focus happened. I think. Aws had their actual crowd this week. Just yell the entire time. It was just loud as fuck, so I mean I've rather the controlled like. Going crazy win big stuff habits. I don't mind that baseball I feel like is the best equipped to be with no fans. I could go through half a game three quarters of game and not even notice I mean there's. Some places the Marlins and never have fans anyway. So, what's the difference you? Know I mean maybe you know you get. When you go to play the cubbies, Wrigley's Rockley nor Red Sox, Iraq in Yankee Stadium is pretty dos Ofra crowd, but you get some of these other places that are really going crazy Houston huge advantage on got west. The giants fans are still not you look at teams that dodgers especially okay. They lose them, but you still get to be in your home. Ballpark which I think is the biggest advantage. Because Yankee Stadium still a bandbox. They would've made us play at a neutral site in a bubble. We're asked out. Like we need that advantage of Yankee Stadium. It is just it is what it is, and so I'm glad it's gone. That way can't wait for. Baseball starts going to be a fun season. I can't believe that you're still doing fantasy baseball and sixty games. Do I got four teams I. I'm an addict actually finished. Everything. I love the Shit I don't care sixty games like. Who Cares I played quick fast. So Oh congratulations, you finally got an ob the show you can finally start playing. Yes like I've been sitting on. It and I'm still sit on it, but as soon as the season I'm told Y'all I'm weird like that. I can't play a sports game unless there is a sport going on like I. Can't when the NBA happening I'm not playing to K- just started last week. 'cause I knew the was coming back. I can't play him. We'll be. Be the, show baseball season as soon as it gets in the playoffs and the world series out I. Don't play Matt. I'm all. It's the one sports game. I just completely given up on. You don't commanded I. Mean I'M NOT GONNA lie. It's not great like they didn't update it a lot, but I have to play Madden. Nope, just went like I. I would play. College football but I will not play madden anymore. This is not fun. Man is not only bring nab back is breaking records that they bring college football. College football. I mean because the game was great. This this is so much I. Don't know what it is about mad and you're so static is easy. Like once you get. It figured out. It's not like you. It's like with to cave. He playing a hall of fame you can, you'll lose. You'll go on the street. Players get cold. You'll end up losing like you can lose four or five on the road and you realize eight or nine. Men, it's like way too easy to go fifteen and one sixteen or no, it's easy. It's not fun anymore, especially on all matt in. By like forty. That's there isn't there's no way to make it difficult at this point i. don't know what they're gonNa do about that Hopefully they bring back fight night. They put two boxes and UFC four like I feel like we're inching talked to. I talked to the guys when I do the preview. I asked him if there was anything about fight night coming, and they said no like flatly, there has been just no real plans to bring fight night back. That sucks. Is it exclusive rights to ESPN. I'm really wondering why a franchise like to K doesn't just be like you know what fuck it. Let's try. I I don't know I don't know. Because the Brian Hayes when I did I did a documentary on Gay sports years ago and I flew out there. They were making the next Gen this this. It was when they were doing ps, four and xbox. One versions of men and everything else so I went down the NBA to which was terrible, but Brian Hastings. Guy Who does see games, the creative director and we talked about fight night then that was seven years ago. Just their property like they were the ones that I think it's a little bit more difficult to boxers license like the UFC licensee botches. You've gotta get them individually. And that's a pain in the ASS. So I. Don't know if that has a lot to do with it. But that was seven years ago and they were just like now. We're going to be able to do this anytime. And now is to doesn't win. It's still like I. Don't think we're GONNA. Do the same thing that's us. We need to fight nineteen. Do. Yeah, it's been way too long Let's talk about. Talk about stuff from a different era snoop India mix. On the versus battle I saw you. Following along last night had to run back to the crib so I could throw it on because don't Shit work in Puerto Rico without Wifi. So had to run back to the CRIB. I watched it chilling in a pool me and the wife some drinks. You know went down Nostalgia Lane. And Everything, you're saying on the time line was true by the time I tuned in. Was it felt more like a concert? Right it! It didn't feel like the computation wasn't Jada style in Fab. Like even a competition between friends is fun. This was definitely more of a like. I guess like the beanie Mon the one from Jamaica I. It was just two guys. The I got a catalog. You got a catalog. Let's get it at point. Snoop had to help the MEX. Because, he had horrible cardio. The Cardio of USC heavyweight in a five round fight is blown. but listen. That's healthy diem though. So I rather than than skinny. Rap onstage for four hours and pass out demeks. Because that is a aided by different substances so stupid health on some ad libs. That's cool I thought the virus. Don't but people still scored it? Which is fine? And then Cleveland's complex. Correct me if I'm wrong. Dropped to article. Scoring it in favor of Mex- that was revolt, and then the ended up taking the down the there right, they should take it down. Again man should be ashamed of him so. I don't know how how these kids are doing this shit, but whoever they had party up over dropping like it's hot and listen man. It's not stoops greatest song of all time, but the. Party of. I hate that song I hate. and. It feels like party up. It's always been that song that middleweight. America likes solve. That's who was writing this article. White America. Then I get it, but trump it like it's hot was everywhere. and. It was such a big saw. You, you meet somebody. A party up was better than net. No, no, absolutely not there's. The Battle was fun and I didn't score because I thought it was stupid at a certain point because it looked like for the most part, the stoop was really celebrating having. It was crazy to look one. Year older than snoop. That's crazy to. The fact that Diem X. is here. He's happy and he's smiling. Considering all these been through in his life, you can say the same thing about snoop. who was on trial for murder and they're both here in two thousand and twenty. repping smiling snoop dancing, having a good time at there's no reason to score this. This was truly a celebration. This was not anybody trying to one up the other person, but if that's what you wanted to do, there's no way deem wins that battle. But it's not a battle, but why? Why? Why would you score for the next? How? Somebody who had Cameron was song over. Ain't no fun. You GotTa, be fucking kidding me. X. Had more stuff than we thought though when we put extra. I kind of knew what he had. It's just I think again. Snooze highs are these ridiculous highs, and they're different vibes from different this dirty highest for snoop. For DM extra four, maybe six. Yes six generous. Let's say it was like is truly the first two albums are the only I listen to. I don't really listen to much outside of that. But. He's got banners in this chair by knows that the rough rider compilations like he's got. He's got bangers, but it's like come on man. You faces snoop. So, that's ridiculous. There's no way mix has more classics in stoop nuts. I enjoyed myself I just I. Don't know them scoring like they should have said to scoring, but I knew you know clicks and everything else, but the so that was the win that battle like twelve to two, eight or thirteen to seven was like come on, stop held. Thirteen seven is criminal. Anything that's. That's ridiculous thirteen to seven. You're not even watching it that point you. That's what ends up happening. Snoop is playing songs from like deep cover and chronic and doggystyle, and you weren't born and if you wear boy also meant that you didn't listen to any of this stuff so when he played it. You're like I don't know that song. I'M GONNA. Go this song because I know this one. That's kind of how I felt. But I don't know how you do like. Somebody picked some song over Dougie. dugout. have to go down the platelets. Like there's no, there's very few songs period that are bigger and. More revered doggy dog world ain't no fun like those are classic songs. No matter what here deal makes us. Arguably his best in most insightful song is slipping. That's an undeniable song. Absolutely undeniable, but still best so many bangers. Know Crazy amount of banks. List of stuff, sloop didn't play. was crazy other he'd come back next week and be like Pick somebody else. To track. Jesus so many like man. I don't know. People got put some damn respect on snoop's name. Anybody who scored for DM Mason I love the MS and I love the fat damage him new joking about taking their shirts off was probably the funniest thing. That was hilarious. Dad Snoop as close as we're GONNA. Get get the old man beard populate Snoop is forty eight years old DM exits forty nine. Damn. They're they're? They're old. But Superman. Business for a long as time went from being a trout, murder shows Martha Stewart. That guy is a fucking lazing. Talk about. Reinvent yourself cheeses. Wild and Now it comes down to WHO's left I. saw. Someone say they want to see Kisha covert versus Jonty. No thanks I think that maybe breaks eight thousand. I. Don't care about that. There's things go. Never School Fan at all. Ever Neither was I I thought she just wind about horrible relationships, not a fan. No. It was like try to be J. Blige, but something went horribly. So I don't like he should. But, now it's like okay. We got a couple of match ups, obviously the well with the current of Connie. We can't have Connie in the in the makes. But I wouldn't mind if they could pull it off. You know puff I think would be down but a puff versus dre battle. kind of like a battle. The producers East Coast West Coast Vibes. When I was like that's still out there. Slow money I'm like knew if sponsored by Sarah Blah Blah Blah Massa rock around that. You know advertising. Throw them some money that way. I know you gotTA, Plug. What beats by DRE. Around. Speakers the pills. I know I don't know. You GotTa plug that she didn't have that everywhere. Outside of AIDS! Conveyed they both live in l.. A. Takes three hours of their time. Greenwich Short Dr Dre probably make slight and billion dollars in two hours. But. You think. But Yeah you could give up three hours of his time so I wouldn't mind seeing that. And then you know, of course like just on smaller levels. I think that could be a better representation of the quote. UNQUOTE BLOG era rappers. I don't like meek mill, versus while I think would be dope. And the reason why I say answer this, 'cause I for me personally. This is just a personal thing i. Wanted to do it. They're not done so the key. Really in the thick of this so okay, that's. I mean that's fifteen years of accountable. We just talked about x seven six. Yeah, I'm just saying like with the. It's like he's so far removed from that material that you can play those Oh, Shit. Like wildland meet. Definitely like there's still so deep into that they take you really personally, and maybe that's what a battle is four. But. I prefer guys were done with their careers. Like not even completely done, but they're so far removed from their peak while they still in his peak, meek drops still in the speak. Yeah I like to see some you know. Somebody says something like Charlie Wilson in a battle with somebody I was like okay. Get Banned Charlie. Okay, let me or four gap in New Charlie. Who else can really fuck with? That catalog s interesting. Maybe Ronaldo Jersey Charlie. I was just spitballing that I'm with you. I've made up shit and I'm with it Charles. I'm here for that. The the come out for the. Awesome Gatiss you also. Unfortunately Ronald maybe crippled because he can't do anything with R Kelly, but don't. Take Away the count strikes. You play those. Discussing but Ranasinghe tweet listen, you can hear me. Time is about tweet that right now. We bought. Now that'd be a good one for the old heads. I think the ultimate ultimate. If you WANNA, go to. People were no longer like super active. If we can get tribe called quest versus outcast. I think that's probably the best match that we'd be three album three out like those first three I. Thought! That's a good matchup between those that that's a good one. You can tweet that one. I'm swimming this one. But do travelers. Would try versus outcasts because al-Qaeda your tweet. Like one of my favorite groups of all time and same tribe and tribe is. The group that truly made me fall in love with like a certain sound hip hop, because the jazz samples and everything else and tribe also has a perfect song is really really really really incredible. Stupid electric relaxation is like the perfect song. There are very few songs are as perfect as electric. Is. That song is a main on the number levels, not just rap level. The fact that is timeless defected girls can groove to it and the dues rocket and five still comes with anti like that I love that song. But al Qaeda's WOOP. BANGERS upon bangers upon like they played a dungeon could. Goodie Good Shit. Yeah I'll be here all much so. Mean remix cutic- got stuff. That's deep. That that's to me a really really good battle that could come and I don't know who wins. Not I don't need. That comes like playlist. Yeah, because the sequencing right like what what goes wear, and maybe this is blasphemous someone from New, York maybe. Inch over outcast. I would really have to break down that catalog because there's just so many classic joints I'm very partial to everything off a midnight. Marauders I'm very partial to with the same thing goes for women I. Like Equipment is an unbelievable, I'll. In. Southern play list I mean yeah, but some people. They have Class IX stink on you. Then you get into the half out. There's a lot of shit in that al Qaeda and then you go back to trout, and then like you know obviously cute if you wanted to, you know if Audrey Plays Hey, I can play like breathing. Stop vibrant thing, but you know the scenario remix? Buddy native talk stuff who deep shit gets deep. AGAINST DIV. So. I don't know there's a couple. You GotTa really go with scenario. Rivas, probably a trump card like nothing outcasts catalog probably beats that right leg if you like, or it's real tough, so you play that guy play throwaway wherever that is right. What's it? What. But, outcasts comes like there's some Shinto outcasts catalog like what is tried playing the beat this Mean southern play listed play ball winner? I mean that's the first international players out. Trump's every. is so that's another perfect song. There's just so much that can play at them like too much. It's just too much to decide. So, that that's about a we need though. So, yeah, we're going to start a I'm starting the movement. That's who we need and. I will get all my early ninety s that all my gear, my hooky and Bam Bam bottom pending everything. I'm taking it back to knit caps. I think my uncle here. You love to Puerto Rico I think his old school Pele belly. Like I'm brushing that off. As when I mean business. You break out the Pele Pele tough and is ninety degrees here. So man battles so far though touch on this and they've been really really good. Synopsis Makes did not win that no didn't. If you're scoring, did not? We're GONNA. Take a quick break when we come back to so much combat sports talk about that. It's crazy and we're taking our break early because we have to talk about the return of Mike Tyson. Nate Nate Robinson yet short ass! NBA, Nate Robinson vs J.. Paul is on the undercard. Some more craziness will probably be added to that. Then we have top bring ending on a high note zone returning with Virgil Ortiz instead of Ryan Garcia. Fight cards to recap so much. You guys stay tuned. We'll be right back. All right everybody will get back to the show in one second, but first sports are coming back in. 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Who is the more dynamic fighter? Roy Jones Tyson. Reuter Johnson. Dynamic Royal. Mike Tyson was torn. He'd like force. Roy Jones Finesse. Roy. Jones embarrassed opponents. Where might just kind of brutalizing Roy? Barry Tyson had some peekaboo in early on that that was so dude. That window like for anybody who knows boxing. Mike Tyson's window was really small. It was eighteen twenty one years old. And then it was like then you got a car serrated. They I mean he lost the Bust Douglas. You came back beat a few bombs and he got knocked out by a vendor holyfield and it was all downhill from there. Roy On the other hand. Just ransacked everybody. Everybody a lot of let's be real. A lot of his resume is very shaky. I mean as you WanNa. Say bombs there's. Some questionable people on their resume I'll. Teachers a janitor, Royden zebulon their lose the roasted ruthless though. No. No Roy Funds up by going up to heavyweight. And coming back down. The problem like I said. This article of is years ago. They were Jones. Show he broke every rule in the book when it came to box. Lift his hands down pulled his head back. Stay in the pocket with his hands down. He did everything that sheerly on athletic ability. Like there was no a hit some fundamentals, but when you wash them he and use this year. So, it was not conducive to a career that would last long so one day moving up and down wait the first harbour fight. He was slower. He was a hair slow, and that's the those catlike reflexes. You can't be a here slower. And that little here slower ended up being a close fight with Harvard but Royce. Ego was like this running back. Target was like cool because I know you slow down. You just don't believe it. Roy went back to do what he didn't you watch him? Get knocked out by it was the same thing pulled his head back, but he wasn't fast enough to get all the way all the way, eight points and win night night, because the other thing was rain right? Mike were very similar in the fact that when they test the campus. They never knew what it meant to touch the campus. How did I how do I get up I? Don't know how to get up. They didn't know how to get off the canvas neither of them. There were so dominant, but I royal man. Yes Tyson Michael spinks. He beat up a bunch palms running was play in that I run like heave. Heavyweight titles by beating Bono. Heavyweight Tournament. He beat two of the major titleholders in that tournament. No. I'm not look when Tyson won the titles like. A title newspaper to a lot of people space won. That's title and he was scared Shitless. Happen Trevor Berbick was champion and he got ran over, so it was like you know Tyson didn't find poems, but in the middle of his career, then it got got Kinda Dicey, because the window was so small, but I always go back to those two fights with razor Ruddick when you sound like. They were like empty oil cans. That's how they hardly hitting each other in the ribs. It was like boom boom. How hitting? But the problem Mike and the same goes for Roy. Was that Mike didn't fight Riddick Bowe. Holyfield when on the downside of his career. He didn't find like George Foreman or Michael Moore. So allow those days because he being away from the sport, they completely eluded him. He didn't get the fight. Those guys Roy being a middleweight Yankee. Bernard Hopkins early in his career, and then we bought him again when he was washed, he lost but like. He beat Jinx Tony To. Like, Roy a lot of people early in his career, but then he when he became self promoted, there were a lot of fights, fighters, middleweight, super middleweight, heavyweight that he just didn't fight. Because the money. But who else is GonNa? Go play basketball in the morning. Full, court full last game, and then knocked somebody on at night. Jones junior and then make arrests on about it. What's the betting odds at West Gate have it as a pickle right now minus one cent for each. My question is what are the odds for Roy Jones wrapping his own self to the ring. That has to be strong right like you getting good odds on that. If he doesn't rapidly sold out. y'All must've forgot. What are we doing? Now I don't know what we're doing here. According to get online Mike. Tyson's minus three fifty. Roy Jones the plus. Listen I'm a huge Roy Jones. Roy Jones fighting this in which I don't even know if they announced the wait for the, but it got to be heavyweight. Has To be so. Like this being an open weight fight. With Mike looking the way he does. And Roy. Let's be real looking the way he does. Roy Right doesn't look like. He went Vegan and he's been training for six months. You know like Roy. Doesn't look Prime Roy. Tyson got an eight-pack looks as good as you can for fifty four years. Here, but this looks can be deceiving. Here's my issue before we start talking about this becher about to lose. Here's my. People have looked at Mike Tyson hip pads not people. He hasn't fought fifteen years Roy. Jones is actually been in a box in the last two years. That's huge. And people aren't paying any attention to that. At all. I don't know what Roy has left. But the fact that he has at least caught somebody in a sanction match two years ago to Mike Tyson's fifteen mean something because dude people hit pads all the time I. Sure don't mean nothing suspense there, inanimate objects. They don't hit you back. Roads GonNa hit back. When that fast got a pretty good chance. I mean you can hit them but I'm just saying what happens. Mike's never since customized died. Mike Tyson has never been known for his defense, so Roy pops a good time because we might never had a great team. So Roy pop some good well. My head decent you. Break it's. and. Dude I'M GONNA. Put it like this. I don't know who Mike Tyson is. Like those interviews are still scaring me I don't want to go back to the old like what happens with Roy, showboats hits them. Mike sees read. Roy Jones funeral that could happen. That's very possible or actually expect or Roy. Show hits them Mike sees. Red Can't catch. Roy gets piece though and knocked out because Mike for Better. Be Clear. Because Mike as Fifteen years you have to remember how he lost his last few fights. He didn't get knocked out. He didn't get back up kind of quit. He checked out. So it fifty, fifty, three, fifty three Mike Tyson could set on his ass, I mean dude if we're I hit some in the body one good time. I don't know if Mexico on. Continue that shoe now. The gloves are going to be bigger. This is supposedly an exhibition. Exhibition boxing means for two guys who are trying to knock the other guy out that there's any half speed in boxing. You. Have you been the Doghouse it may with his June. There's no half speed there now granted. That's a very rarefied case because they don't they turn the fucking clock off and. Jim But other gyms is not really ashby for five is getting ready for a fight and you put them in a real setting. I can't see these guys going. Let's have fun. Somebody's going to allies GONNA go up someone's GonNa. Try to hurt the other one yet. Listen I'm not a world class athlete by any means, but I just played like football. Turkey bowl at ESPN and I had to apologize three times for cleaning people coming over across the middle. And they're like Yo. It's touch I'm like I'm sorry. If the balls in the air and you're going for it, muscle memory tells me to just take you out. And I apologize after. And that's just me. I played linebacker. Shit. I'm old now in what twelve years haven't played linebacker. Eleven years is play linebacker. But I still my natural instinct to talk somebody up coming across the middle. So might get hit with two Jabs Roy starts dancing. Blow punches him one time. It's over because Mike. See Red. Get real close and he's thrown bombs I. don't Care If you put them in twenty four ounce gloves. I don't know man. I think everybody like the weights going to be a thing obviously. But I. I don't know people have really I. Mean Roy People like our Roy? So fuck you think Mike Tyson was four retired washed up like okay, but this is not that Mike. This mike knocks out. How do we know? How do we know he hasn't been hit by anybody? At fifty three, here's been hit in fifteen. Going off of what the man says, and how the body feels now and how comparing out felt it's how he takes care of himself how everything is! To say it's different when you get in the lights is different in the ring. It all depends. You want once I. Hit you different. Cardio would be his biggest enemy. The gas tank will go before the skill goes. Maybe his skill has come back to to the training. Due to how great he's kept his body, but when you get out there and you've got to compete. You're so hard to get into game shape shots hard again to fight shape. Unless! They're bringing people in for him to do rounds. Tim, who's going to really want hit my Tyson. Not Sparring Meiteis so there's so many my might might Tyson on pay per view for a huge paycheck again game showing sparring him. It's this is a lot of people. It's Roy Jones in. It's like. It's not a vendor. Holyfield who hasn't fought in a decade sky, who just two years ago? I guess live. Competition Greenwich, not the best competition. Where the let's not act. Like Mike is like the great competition. Hopefully he looks good, but I, personally. I've said this before. I don't like this. I think this is very conducive to Mike Tyson considering that all he's been through and come back from I. Don't think he looks at a fight as fun or an exhibition. It brings them you know. Keep taking me out and keep pulling me back in. That's what it looks like for Mike Tyson. I'll think there's anything that's going to be. Roy Better protect himself. Like you come out. There is a round better protect yourself Y- thumbing. Does I mean still might Tyson? I think the aura of Mike Tyson is bigger than anything else. Is Like I, said has one fight. You! He hasn't been a a a formidable opponent in like twenty years. All right with that being said. Will you then let me walk down this? No, absolutely not you. Know Give me three mill. No I'm not. No absolutely not. It's not going to be three million anyway, but I'm not gonNA. Fall for that Shit. No, you're confident. Give me three. No, no, you confident. You took the bait. No! You four million pay per view buys which I I tried to do two point five, and then you alerted me that Mayweather McGregor did four point three and I got tricked into making it full, yeah. So let's go back. That is not happening to my. Level of confidence. You're taking this ill. Just take it. You'RE GONNA. Take it anyway, but I'm not giving you any out because it just sounds even better when you say four million. No. No? There's no way and the best part is because there's a few ways have any where you could maybe go. Oh, man, going to do like one point five or two like if Mike in. Mike worried that like a press tour and we're like talking shit to each other. Yeah Michael Angry. You can juice the buys. Haven't it? Jake polls on this which were touch. Panel Goddamn Jake Paul. As my pay. These youtube kids. Zone subscriptions you get twenty. We got a lot but I'm hoping I'm hoping that this only like thirty dollars paper, but come on man first of all, Roberson is a child size individual. Jake Paul Robinson might knock come out. Jake Paul is like six. Has Anybody Seen Nate Robinson do anything. Other than he Harbinson. A dunk contest at five foot nine out. He was a world class NBA athlete He. Played football at the University of Washington and was one of the best. DB's had. It's not like he's only played one sport forever. No emails legit in football as corner as well. He is a real athlete. He's not Gabe. That doesn't matter though he's not a boxer. Park But Jake. Paulo J. at Lee spar with live competition. He's box. He's got take Paulo. I don't know man. I don't know that I always think about this. On see I was thinking about this and I'll never forget sticky fingers getting his ass whooped. What what the hell was that? Show on MTV. That Boston show celebrity box. IS A. He's a rapper, but he he is not a world class athlete, but he sticky fingers he was, he was ripped and got as he got dolled. Figures Dot. Robinson, who do you understand the level of athletic ability, and takes Ford Forty two inch vertical? Hey, hey, Johnny Jones can't dunk a basketball. Be Sure will whip your ass. Athleticism doesn't mean a whole lot in fighting. It does when you get to relatively novice fighter. Yeah, but at least take his box like I, said he sparred live rounds with real people as a real trainer. Nate. Robinson has like two months. To learn the fundamentals of boxing. Me Assuming that he is never box before. If he has yeah. I. Don't know about it like that. IF HE HASN'T A. Man. Jake much better than Logan. I'll say that like we saw jake. Logan But Little Fundamentals like shooting a jab and he got better. Jake has been in three or four fights to. Think or something like that and he's gotten better, but you only get better competition. They. Robinson hasn't done that yet. He might. WHO, with a jet like the JAB is the scariest thing that him? If, you've never bought for 'cause you don't understand it. Because USA thrown. Around. You have no clue. Rate and it hit you in the face, and you use it on wide looping punches, because that's how we all fall when we were kids I've been hit with the job before and was like no I don't like this because I can't figure on it, yes. No boxing. Oh blogs! Okay, YEA! Industry when I? You. Know How to fight. But Great Jabs and lead cakes. If you attempt to let kick on me like I got to try to check a kick under the fight. I'm leaving. You got this only did heart. Toss up as much as you want. And Jay's got a pretty decent Chad if they can't figure that part out he's done. Now, it's tough if they get into a brawl, then yeah, anything can happen, but if jake. Like was going to be like four rounds. It's going to be short. We're breaking down Jake Paul, versus isn't it? I know, but they were all the whole point. You bring that up to help. Boost pay per view. Sales is not getting four million. that. I need a couple more big names. A couple million is what you need. More big Dave's right I got like one hundred eighty s personally depending on the pricing for fight, and depending on how it's rolled out Agassi one point five. Depending on race thirty I, can I can? Just these fights at thirty dollars. I get to mill out of. But we still have the shit out of this fight. Man. I mean fire sticks. All Day! Tell, you man. There's no like there's no loyalty to sporting this note, so yeah, you lose Nebot the other thing I want to do before you go into so Moscow get one point three. Loyal makes that believes in fighting. They watch UFC they watched cards. Yes, muscle put being dropped to vet down to three. No. No. No. You can't talk me out of this. No major veggie lying. That's what you get. You deserve ventilated told me a bone. I'm not a gentleman pets still. Dinner No. And I'm collecting brunch too many. Feast when I see. Ya that's. Breakfast. Team! We have to go for a bottle of some next. The, the wife still talks about the. One hundred plus dollars. Champagne bottle I had to buy you last time. You want barrage, yes, that. Before we start talking about box the rest of boxing MMA. It was interesting because I saw a few people upset because we were like. Oh! People from showtime BBC Mayweather Promotions and I love them. They're upset. They were like. Oh. I can't believe this showtime announced later fights, and no way you know, wrote anything and then Tyson Roy Jones do this circus and everybody's writing about it and I hit Kelly. Kelly's wants to May with promotions and I was like yeah, because people like a circus, the irony of this is. Just a few years ago. Kelly Swanson Mayweather Promotions Showtime. They were promoting fight. Mayweather McGregor. Were Oscar de la Hoya was like. Man You're overshadowing in triple gene camello with his bullshit. Fight the circus of a fight, and they would always like. Oh, you're just salty met. Salty amid listen I. Get it I, said the same thing. It's a circus will fight is bullshit. Mayweather McGregor was abolishing fight can eligible g was a real fight, but people don't like real fight. People like circuses, and you can't support the May with McGregor circus. Then get mad. You See Tyson and Roy Jones role shit out. You can't. It's going to get more coverage. Sorry, just the way it is. I thought it was saw running. I was like really Kelly you head of me with the promotions. PR I love you, but no. That was a sham and you knew it. But it was a circus and people wanted the circus. People like the circus, just the way it is. Crazy! I mean. If I gave. It, I showtime one post and I gave Tyson like seven so far. During the day, I mean just the numbers of business do. Yeah and liked the showtime minute though they did you know they might shake Clarisa shields dirty. Nine cards and the best female boxer world can't on one keep in mind. They have rolled out the Fox on BBC sleep in. The still a whole, okay. Never fought on Fox navy. She's a showtime person. Baby. She does now. I know fair I don't know that. They need to because she going to be happy they they need to. And if that's the case, that's cool, 'cause you open her up wider audience I guess. Right you put on Primetime television. I liked that angle, but she's only fought our showtimes. She isn't a co main event type of person. She hasn't combing like two years. So I just thought that was odd. But the fight they did announce. They have some really good ones. I think David Ben Evita's coming back I. Know you think very highly of David. Ben Is I think this gets him a step closer to unification bout. definitely Evan Kayla plant. Kayla. Plant should be the Guy I'm taking mellow out of that equation. So I, think Kayla plan is, is that Guy May? Caleb wants another fight. He fought what right before the pandemic it I think. Yeah, so maybe he wants another fight. You didn't look great until later in that fight. Anyway, so maybe he wants another one I. See him training in his yard in Vegas all the damn time, so he's in shape. Maybe he wants another tuneup as well, but I benefit vitas. Fight should be very fun to slept on fight. moved the Leuven fight on September nineteenth gosh. That's going to be a good fight We have the pay per view which. To me. We'll get to the tank. Fight the second. Have no problem with that being pay per view. To Charles pay per view. That's GONNA. Be a tough sell. It was right. See runs pay per views every month. You got another one. You know late October theoretically in September competing or the week after its competing with Loma. On October third. Like. That's probably going to be a paper view that it's going to be a tough ask maybe because it's I maybe they think like you'll be will pay for us and then be asked out. And not pay for the MOMA. Fight on pay per view. I don't know, but I think people were going to be smart enough to, but like I think we'd on this, but we have you know. Jamaal Charles. Versus the river Chanko. That's great fight fantastic fight! And I think Charles biggest test one sixty absolutely d'oeuvres chang-chol, pushed triple due to the limit, and he puts Daniel Jacobson limit. He's a hell of a fighter. This is this is Jamaal Charles True Litmus test. Find out how good he is in this division. Yep and I think if he makes the statement. You Again Cannella doesn't get around to finding triple g triple. G. is just going to go after the belts and trying to clear out the division again. And I think. Charles has a good opportunity to maybe have A. You know a cross promotional fight with triple down online sure Jeez going around a guys absolutely. So I think this sets up that common opponents. If he looked better, I like that fight to be tough, though dramatic Charl as the CO main preservers reo. That should be another. Good fight for Charro I. Don't know what's happening at one fifty four. I feel like. Just kind of waiting for aerospace to move up. fifty four is A. It's an interesting visit. Because as you know guys like Tony Harrison there Jay rock and. Jay Rock lost something to me. I mean one fifty four is not the toughest division is the reason why Oscar de la Hoya said if he came back fight at one, fifty, four, which Charles took exception to beat the brakes off, which is true. But like even drill shirlow lost Tony. Harrison, so it's like. It's an okay division. I don't know man this being a pay per view, they're trying to sell the Charles and the Charles look like stars. Don't get me wrong as twins and I liked the fact that it's a pay per view, double header with have a lot of fighters, afternoon, car and evening. Heart I like that. But I. Don't know about this. Afternoon Card and evening. Yeah these are it's not like Khomeini main. There's a I think. One of them ends in the growth. Right into and I think it's a split site double header. So you'RE GONNA get a lot of fights. I think loosen areas on this fight on this account I don't have it in front of me, but it's a pretty stacked card should appease boxing fans, but if they expect anything beyond that given whether Yosi we'll be doing given, this'll be two weeks after Mike Tyson Roy, Jones. No. No, Yeah then we get the lipids fight, which should be really good. As well after that Rowley into Devante David vs Leo Santa Cruz on the twenty, fourth. which I think that's a really good fight I think they should stack that with a decent undercard to. Man That's. That's one where you get a lot of eyes on someone. Like, a young fighter I'm not sure who's like the next I. Mean Bussiness! Maybe the drawn Ennis's. Scary thing welterweight. Yeah, I think boots would be really good to play in that spot. As the CO main. But yeah, there's there's some talent that they could really get is on there and Devante. The one thing we'll touch on real quick before we move onto UFC is this fight is a little different because the titles for one thirty five m one thirty or both on the line, even though the fight will be at one third, some bullshit with that is how you find for two different weight classes, only fighting one of them the WBA come on. Come on houses for two thousand two different way classes. You'RE GONNA fight like one thirty, one thirty for five rounds in games away. Like what is this, she? 'cause devante dropping it anyway. It's if he wins. It's IT'S OUT IN ONE THIRTY WBA chevy show be up for grabs. It's total bullshit, but whatever whatever whatever sounds good I mean. WBZ's done worse. They just make up. Also, it is what it is. return of dissolve on comeback this week with. Virgil Ortiz. It should be good showcase fight for him, but. Looking at where he is in the one forty seven landscape by the way today, he had to use the towel to make weight. Found that a little odd, but it's a pandemic so. It might be hard to call it. One forty seven. I don't know. Who gives him a shot. I don't this is one of those rare times where it hurts to be on others. I think PBC and top ring might work together I'm not sure who gives a young kid like this to shot to get in. That's that's the greatest question because. He's the goods Virgil Ortiz good. He's GONNA poll. pulverizing vargas that's expected and he's always you know. He said he wants to fight Spanish. He really wants Vike therm you. It'd be a hell of a fight. I think so so shit. But? The welterweight division is ruled by PVC. By that's why but can't get anybody. So, it's like you have. A Virgil on one side of Crawford together. Everybody's in PBC. And what the problem is! The interesting is I talked to Sean for the other day. and. Asks Him. who he was fighting he's to navy was I can't tell you guys. But the joke I had was like well. You can't be anybody good. I was like because you fought everybody good. You know what nobody wants to fight you. Nobody wants to fight him. So. He wasn't a rock and a place where there's a deal to be made if there's a bargaining chip it. Sean Porter Sean Porter Sedans Crawford Future. Maybe software versus Virgil tease shop like nobody spends Thurman Garcia all the photo. None of them are you've never heard any of them? Say I WANNA fight off quarter again, none of them. Not at all. He's not a fun manny Pacquiao. Before specified happened I talked to showing gibbons NUZZLING GIBBONS WHO'S A. Manager is like an, we'll take the shop. What if I? After the fight? He looked at music. I don't think we wanted to fuck that. He's rough. Rough nobody wants to fight him, so he's a bargaining chip. Everybody I want see but and porter. That's the fight I. WanNa see I don't know what happens if Ortiz. He's really on the outside looking in, but he's also a big forty seven, which you just pointed out. Today maybe just goes to fifty four at some point, but I think he's GonNa stay forty, seven, forty, one for a while. Try to figure it out. I think fifty four might be. 'cause, don't I? Just don't see. Who fights him unless you can throw the Bagai Kell Brook. I feel like Halbrook is poised wildcard. It'll proud of until you're right. Brooke Robbie the guy. Yeah! It's a race, because I think tens Crawford is looking. Kell Brook as well as like. Who can I beat up somewhat of a name Kell Brook. That's it but I, take Virgil. It's a race to caliphate. So. I think that's a possibility. That's on the table I. Don't know what Amir Khan's doing. But that's a good name if he's looking for a name. Of someone to probably fight? Or if they want him to get a name and the money is there. Y-. You Pony up the dough and you pedram bronner's six Mil, not the ten he wants, but he gets six anywhere else. You give them the six melt and feed them to young lion. Guest! I think they'll do that I don't think. Default. No I should. Pay Bronner a lot of money to take an asshole been, but that's building star. So we'll. We'll see how that goes for Verge Ortiz. I expect him to win this weekend as well before we gotta get Outta here. We only have a couple of minutes left in. The show didn't leave much time for UFC, but it's OK card wasn't crazy anyway. fight island. Pretty much about the main event. This past weekend figured out vs Ben Evita's the rematch dray. We got it wrong again. Rochman Rongrong figure will be the. Get Your Damn. Jeez Louise it was ugly so submission round one and beat the hell out of them before even submitted him dude the only show just. The only thing I'll say is benefits has tremendous about of resolve. Because figure had chokhin deep in the first round, he didn't tap and I was like. Wow, he's gonNA. Keep fighting a figure out like you know what going to beat the shit out. Get this show on you again anyway. He does exactly that he beat the hell. have been avoided now looking at the flyweight divisions like who was fired him. WHO COME BACK DOWN TO FLYWEIGHT I don't know who's going to be. Too Good. I did like the fact that a lot of people are accident. A comments section on our espn me page and one person to speak out which I kind of like. It's Cody Garbrandt. Because I think. Cody is in line obviously after last performance for a shot at bantamweight title, but he's still maybe two people behind. And if you gotTA, take a fight anyway. Why not go down and try to test that out, so what having to do shallow? That's fair. Cody but. A smaller TJ. No, but cody says he can make. Believe it. So TJ. US All the tracks and still. Haven't liked that. Idea about that like the idea of there's not a real contender there. If a guy like cody garbrandt former champion, big name in this forum wants to go down to test themselves, and he has to take another fight in the interim. Anyway, go dare to be great, because then if you win a championship match-up, you catapult everyone. Shared if al jobs still vital yet, your couch bolting him. 'cause Dana won't commit to him either. So I think that's interesting fight. It's ridiculous. now let's touch on. Just make a quick prediction for this week's fight card. In the! It's actually really good. Fine Card dude his former team fighting. Team fights on that card. Yet, that's that's pretty nuts. 'cause Parvez back see for breezy overdue. Massara versus Gus debut heavyweight I'm taking gus up to do. Say Like for recess bodies books terrible. He looked terrible on a last fight. On. What Gus is GonNa? Look like as a heavyweight, but I think it's GonNa be better than ratio. I agree, and then we have shogun. Who Verses Antonio. ruggero negative. Take! Take! fucking no Shogun to win. He won the first two I'm GONNA. Pick Shogun, but here's the problem. They have shogun listeners thirty eight years old. I'm just not buying issue. Oh, the Shogun shovelnose comes in a row since he was sixteen. Then that's almost like he fought in pride and I'm like Oh. He's only thirty eight, but maybe I don't know Nagas what forty four. Little Nuggets Oh. He's old knock. But they yeah. As forty, four, thirty, eight, younger than forty four. Shit. Show I'll pick shogun. I can't remember. I watched a little dog fight, but all right whatever I don't know last time for either fucking nostalgia fight. I'll take it and then minivan Robert Wood. I dare until. This is. Really good I mean. Winokur was so good for so long. You beat so many good people seem there until trip up so many times. Against fighters you know I mean. It'd right I think whitaker's probably better than horry muscle. And Marshall Cartels so I mean that's been may math, but who? The fuck knows Give me. Roll the dice Kimmy Robert Whitaker I like so a person as a character. GimMe Bobby knuckles to win this now. I'm telling Robert Whitaker. The you said the trip was. To Yeah No. Oh. got knocked out massive doll till went to a split decision. We gasoline, who got ran over by Hermansen last week. And Robert Whitaker lost to like I, said rubber wicketless to a guy who's got a style that was tailor-made to kick his ASS Outta. Sonya I think till doesn't really have that as always. Whitaker didn't lose anything against Sonya. He should win this fight. It should be exciting steals a great fighter. You should be, but I'm going. Go bobby nuts. The. Good thing about whitaker is that it wasn't drag-out. Long asks forbid. No He's Kinda got got knocked down flashing. Piece done like Cou, he kinda bounced back from that the long dragged out just wars. I would be more worried, but this wasn't that so I don't know should be a good fight card. We'll recap it next week and leave more time for MMA especially because hopefully next week boxing. We're kind of die down. We won't have you know versus to talk about all this stuff so plenty more to talk about going forward and sooner or later we'll split back in two or three show format and give boxing. Boxing its own show, Ma, its own show, so that'll be very very welcomed as well. We want to thank you guys for tuning in today. Though man it's. It's been fun. We're going to be back on Sunday talking pro wrestling ton to talk about their again. A lot has happened in the world pro wrestling till then no make sure you guys follow us on social media at Corner podcast. Underscore me, Dan's be him out. Andrei Hail have a fun weekend. Stay safe stay Rona free for now though route. He's.

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"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. You're welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends at bed online. Get in the mix at bet. Online Dot AG, use the Promo Code podcast one for your new welcome bonus that online your online sportsbook experts and the exclusive partner of podcast. One sports net. Coach. Is Bad guy. Not Oven. The feed. This music. comes. Guy. What's happening guys, happy Wednesday and thank you for joining another special episode of you're welcome, -Khamzat Chinmaya of. Wow. Okay. So they call this, Guy Khabib. Two point. Oh I, think that was a pretty fun name. I think now he needs to be known as Homs at. of He is earned his own name in this and look, I, get I. Get the comparisons to be. Does he sorta resemble could be maybe they got the same barber. But when you look at the style, which is very heavy, very pressure based, push you into the fence, which is relevant. All of your shots happen on the outside or just to drive the opponent to the fence, I keep pointing this out. because. Sooner. Or later when somebody's getting ready, for Khabib, they're going to realize those take downs aren't there unless he gets you on the fence. showman. goes out. Okay. He looks great. He forces a double right away a nice long guy. Now, they say he's a fifty five pounds that's moved up to one seventy. I'm going to take them at their word, but I've only seen two matches of his and I'm telling you look at it as frame looking at it, his height looking at his reach looking at the broad of his shoulders I believe he should be one, hundred, seventy pounder. And, he's got to eat a little bit and enjoy life a little bit more and take some time to build into that. I. Just think with his speed. And I also think with his youth. If he wants to have a shelf life, don't put one of these guys that buys in to the fake narrative of cutting weight if I could do good at one seventy that I'm GONNA do great one, fifty, five. This is something that people always fall for now, I don't WanNa make a big deal about his weight, but I am pointing this out to you because his willingness to change wait is also will provide it for him to have an opportunity tonight. Ten days ago. Using the UFC fight island, he gets a win lands. One, hundred, twenty, four strikes in that contest took two strikes back. Comes out tonight. He does basically the same thing I mean this, this could have been stopped well before it was if you were ever to win a fight. By a knockout, for example, K. bias admission, for example, those would be the most coveted ways to win within the sport. Hold that thought. Let me back up to my sport of wrestling a pin would be what is looked at by the rule of forty makers within our governing body. As. The most dominant thing you can do, they're wrong. That's not true. You Penta Guy The guy always can turn around and economy. Sure. You put the economy. The most dominant thing you can do is to technical fall the guy where you get so many points ahead. It's like the mercy rule in baseball, the referees going to step in and stop the game. There's no point in this going any further, you're going to suffer humiliation. We're all done here. That's the most dominant thing. You can do the reason I bring that up when you're talking about could be to point out. The fact that he went out and found a T K O within the very first round. Tell me somebody else. That's done that ever. Ever. There's plenty of people you could fill in. I haven't heard. You tell me one yet. Do you see the problem there to get the most dominant thing that you can possibly get within the sport and to get it within the first round is shocking. To do that ten days after you had just debuted in a foreign land at a different weight class. I don't know a ton about his last two opponents, but I don't need. Nobody goes into the UFC and gets TKO in the first round. Nobody can show an ability of dominance. So great that the mercy rule gets applied within the first round. Yes. Broad stroke nobody I understand that it happens. But if you try to dismiss what just happened, you try to take away from his opponent that will always be narrative early on well. Put Him in there with a rank guy i. get it. You're called a hater I. Get it. Haters are everywhere got that in me to with there is something that you just can't deny when a guy is this dominant. In, the first round. Verdun, just went out with cuffs and we got to back this up a little bit. Okay. One of the problems that Verdun had in his last contest with Nick. He'd been out for a period of time. I WANNA say fifteen months away first meaningful break. He's ever had what came with that break was a significant weight gain. Verdun when he won the world championship, by example, weighed two hundred and forty one pounds. For Doom. When he took on the neck, wait two, hundred, sixty pounds, and he moved like that. He just moved a little bit slower. That was it. So when for doom comes into this fight with custom. There's a major question of how gus do going up in weight. Is he going to be too small, very natural narrative, but there was also a question of is Verdun GonNa. Come a little bit closer to championship. Wait answer was yes for doom weighed in at two, hundred, forty, two pounds, Gusta Senate two, hundred and forty pounds. So these guys are the same. The talk of a weight advantage or disadvantage that's to pounds. We're. We're even right. So. The way that gus moves it two, hundred five. If he could move eighty percent of added heavyweight, he is instantly going to have the greatest footwork, not only of any current heavyweight of any heavyweight history. And quite frankly, he was doing a little bit. I mean gus was coming out. He was Pumping Jab and he was showing for doom. Some real respect. I. Think that probably doesn't just come from sitting on your couch and studying Verdun tapes watching him. Win World. Championships. I think that probably came from some of their practice room stuff, some of the training sessions that we all heard a little bit about that. But it looked as gus was about a half an inch half inch. Out, of range. So it was coming up with some Nice Jabs. He was even coming a little bit lower and he was jabbing towards the Javan towards the body, but they weren't quite landing. All Right, fast, Ford and all of a sudden. He's some combinations for doom says great. Let's go to plan B. M. to take down. So they end up in a scramble for doom ends up on his back and Verdun telegraphs his arm bar. When he's going to go for the problem is it doesn't make a damn bit of difference if you know it's coming or not the whole battle for the bar is that you know Wayne, he's thinking arm bar. The problem is when he brings his head over now, you've only got two options. You can try to keep your hands locked and deal with it from there you can try to escape. When you're caught in the first couple of minutes of the very first round with the two time, Abu Dhabi champion, and one of your limbs is starting to be manipulated. Look that's going to be hard spot for anybody. This was about as picture-perfect of a technique. As, I've seen if you WANNA learn air I'll tell you a perfect because if you WANNA learn how to do an our bar, the right way. Go Watch this fight because Verdun will walk you slow through an almost in slow motion. He's shows you the setup. He shows you the transition from the back. He shows you the step over. He shows you how he brings his leg down as he starts to extend. There's really wasn't very interesting and beautiful technique. and. We have one more piece of the story you're going to be left with the question what is going to do now? I would like to act as though it never happened. If I was team Gus Gus, you went out and fought a guy that you had to avoid one position at one particular time in the fight, which was early you failed at doing that. That's all that happened here. You didn't get beat up. You didn't get hurt and quite frankly just lost to a guy that almost everybody else lost to to take a deep breath. Try this one more time. Hopefully. That's what happens with Gus. But. As it pertains to over doom, he came out earlier in the week when he was doing media and he offered something, none of us knew which he said, this is my last contract. and. You just say this is my last contract. Let's sit down and talk. He says my last fight I'm out of here. I don't know where that comes from. I've always had the impression that everybody likes for doom and Verdun likes, everybody does my impression. I could be wrong I've never asked him that. But. That's always been my impression. So when he came out with a little bit of a stronger stance, no, no, there's nothing to talk about a man of my word, fulfil my contract, and then I'm going. I, I don't have the foggiest idea where he's going and for all I. Know that was no more no less of a media manipulation. The one anybody else comes out and says it maybe doom, it's just a little more guarded and a little bit more calculated, but the point is. We are only left. Guess. What now? For Gustafsen. We're also forced to guess what now. For, renew. Little. Dog Show gun part three. Alright, and I have to remind you that because you may not know he may even be a big Fan. Just want to know that like, for example, the first fight which felt like a few months ago was in two, thousand and five. The second. I was around two, thousand, fourteen, two, thousand, and twelve I. Mean. It's been a meaningful parents actually go out and they fight. And this one seemed as though, you could apply logic in advance and know it was going to go to show gun. Simple logic says, Shogun has been busy. He has been fighting is doing training camps. He is making wait little dog has been out because he was injured, which also tells us not only has he not been in training camps, not doing not making wait. We can't even practice, right. So, you got a guy who won the first contest they're going to go in and do the same thing. Withholding testing in place, which greatly does change how this matches potentially going to go, which again is going to favor show gun. That's not really what happened. I gotTA. Tell you I thought little won that fight? He did not win the decision. I. Thought Little Dog won that fight another thing with little dog was very fun for me as a fan in two thousand, Twelve Olympic Games going to Rio a little dog out of nowhere goes I. Want to be the Olympic representative for Brazil in boxing, and all of a sudden just starts entering like I think it was heavyweight if I'm wrong was light-heavyweight I believe even the heavyweight division boxing. He was doing great I was following his career. He didn't lose I, want to say he had four fights was all. He won them all, and one of those was actually the Brazilian, national tournament. I don't know what the hierarchy and the architecture in Brazil to make an Olympic team is, but I can tell you here in the states. If you win the nationals, you're the top seed going into the trial. So he was one of the guys and then something happened do it, but I only bring you that story because his hands are very good. In the Nogueira brothers are so legendary for their Jujitsu, both of them. Anytime you have a brother and you're both out and you're bull bad asses. You can kind of double. You can kind of double your esteem in half the time. He goes and wins you go win. The audience is all confused you both just, really good. And but he hands little dog had really good hands. But when he got away from this and did not follow through and pursue. That Olympic, dream. I interpreted that to mean the well, he got away from his hands and it was dealing with all sorts of injuries, right? Whether it's the back of the fire the. I'm left to draw the conclusion. So perhaps you did too. That, he must have hurt something upper body something that stopped him from seen that boxing dream through something that partly it over to his that. That's why we hadn't seen him in a period time which went dry to the final analysis. was a very good with the hands anymore something that he couldn't do wrong. Everything's wrong. He looked great with the hands. He was slipping Shogun a sugar them before this fight. He said look I know about your hands, but you know about my kicks. In. It he this guy's a good kicker, but not the pair to be ready for me. He would turn his body sideways at times absorbed. Those those kicks. boomy was come back. Strong shots. Round was very close. I thought dog wanted round two was not close. Nog, did win it round three, not not as close either and also went to show gun. So if you can agree with me that two and three, we all know now we have to go fight over around one. It looks to me like they fought over round one. They made their decision I'll to share with you. My Opinion Nog won the fight loss of decision. I will also offer for you and final statement on Nog because he said, this is my final fight. I am done. Win Lose or draw I am done dog. Thank you for the memories and congratulations on an excellent career. Buying online is a lifeline for lots more people. 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So they know I sent you amazing selection reliably low prices, all the parts, your car will ever need rock auto dot com. Hill versus winokur. Okay now. There's so many expressions that exist within the world of the Free Format Fighting Systems and I don't know if a single one of them is true. But. There has been a phenomenon around since the nineties that all fans want to see is two guys standing on their feet if you do anything but stand up fighting then a boring fight, Robert Whitaker got an two shots tonight. They were maybe the most exciting part of the night where everybody's hoping, he's going to change where this fight is taking place to get it down to the ground. I am not insulting the action within this fight, not in the least. This was fantastic. Mixed martial arts. The just kind of canceled each other out. It's one of those things. Whitaker was doing a little better job of mixing the martial arts till was pretty focused, and here's what I'm. GonNa I'm stand up I'M GONNA get ya. Going to get you. But that's all I'm going to do in any grappling. I'm GonNa, do is going to be defensive to keep me back in a fisticuffs contest. I. Only bring this to you. Because it is a little bit weird and a little bit annoying that the biggest draw in the history of the sport is George saint-pierre. Who did anything but standing bang or you have a fight like this, then everybody's complaining. But. They will be happy to come out tomorrow morning and tell you all how the only fighter that is worth a damn as one that wants to stand up for you. These things just aren't true look. Darren. Till needs some work on a couple of things that he simply can't work on. He cannot go into practice room and prepare I. Don't know that I've ever seen Darren till. Look Better Darren tells had his conditioning question, a number of times Darren. Till now, in the five round club, by the way when I talk about things, Darren just needs to work on their just experience getting in there guys. This is a brand new weight class for him. He's done to middleweight fights ever was against the number one contender, and the other was against the world champion in all fairness, give till a break. By the way, the final score tonight was forty, eight, forty, seven whitaker, which means till's winning rounds, winning moments, I only WanNa, remind you of that because if you look at somebody who schedule. Is more difficult. than. What till has been through? Cowboys Rony. Goes into a world title fight with the Chosen One goes into a gasoline fight. Madison Square Garden that he flew into town four, thirty, six hours before goes into a world title. Five round met with champ. Till's doing a great job, but he can't get those reps and practice. He's still very young. Guy Tillis younger than you. You guys might think for somebody that's done as much as he's done all these main events, all these Cohen Events. Fight in the Mecca fighting the former champions headline fighter. Show trending, Kevin I only sent out a tweet during the show. The show was trending around the world. Number two and all. Of America, trending all over the world for two hours straight only offering you that. Because till's on top of the bill, till's doing some very heavy lifting, he's very young guy. Phil has the right same as anybody out to get some reps in. But the reps I'm talking about don't come from the practice from his coaches are doing a great job. Till getting better. He's also understanding the weight class. It's also very clear that he's putting his energy into the sport as opposed to the weight cut. He's making the right decisions. Give him a minute. Then you look at Whitaker, where does he go from here? My goodness? Whitaker's is close to a perfect fighter. Is. You're gonNA come across and you can have an argument in this direction or that direction I'll tell you right now. Ridiculous scenario genie pops out of a bottle and tells you. So I hear you want to be a fighter. You can train the rest of your life and be as good. You can be by the rest of your life or right now, I'll give you every skill that Robert Whitaker has take that deal. Don't even think I want Robert Whitaker Skills I. mean the guy can do a little bit of everything. The fact that he can go five rounds the fact. winokur really showed. US, tonight because don't forget every fight that he's had for a period of time has been for world championship because he brought the championship, his last fight not only was for a world strap. It set a record for live attendance of fifty, seven, thousand people. Everything I just stated was gone. There was no title. There was nobody in the audience different scenario house whitaker. GonNa. Respond. Perfectly. He went back to his roots. He came through the ultimate fighter. He's in front of nobody before he's fought of been a big fights before fights, he's had to win or else before he reverted back to that. and. That's what the fighters do. That's what the champions do. They find a way to move forward I. Think this was a very special evening. I think that fight was a very special fight, but I think it's going to resonate better over time. If you have any takeaway from physicality standpoint, it would just be the reminder of Whitaker did which was to make sure your mic seen the martial arts. That's very small critique. But that was a very good fight. Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones you didn't see this coming I. GotTa. Tell you. I did not see this whole thing was a gag. I thought Mike was doing a very good job of letting US know this is a cash grab and I'm GONNA walk out there and I'm GonNa do it. I'M GONNA do my part of this, grab a bunch of cash and go home. By the way I thought we as an audience that a very good job of letting Mike. Know we're good with that. No problem, by example, Mike Tyson's putting videos out hitting admits with a coach Hoffy Okay Darrow that are as short as eight seconds as long as eleven seconds, and he's getting a half a million clicks. Hey. Half a million people are stopping what they're doing to watch Mike Punch a pad. I thought that made things very clear. Hey, Mike, you go. Do whatever you want. We're going stop. We're doing it. We're also going to pitch in. He draws. Roy. Jones. I did not see that coming. I did not know it was this level of seriousness. I mean I remember even when people are talking about bringing the Vanderbeck. Okay. Only Prom I. Don't think Mike's looking for a hard out here I. Think he's looking to have some fun. Well, apparently, that's not true Mike did say for very early on, you come up with x dollars and it was a million dollars I believe. Once he seen how many people are interested in this I. believe he's moved that goal I butter very early on, he said first person comes out with a million dollars. I will sign and I'll fight whoever you tell me I'm fighting. Turned out everything. Mike. Said was true. The only Miscalculation Iron Mike head was evaluating his worth. People still want to see him now when you're talking about Roy, Jones, that's very interesting because Roy has not stopped doing this. I was just on a card. I say I say, just it's been a number of years now, but I just grappled Michael Biscuit was like this mixed card. So. Grapple Roy Jones boxes. Shannon rich does. MMA. Kurt Angle and ray mysterious. Come out at pro wrestle, just a little bit of everything. But I only offer you that because Roy great that night. Then Roy even something in between now, and then twice where he went over to Russia didn't like a winner-take-all. Win Over, put it on the line fought over one, stop the guy in both fight. Stop them late in the five stop. One Guy in the tenth round one in the Eleventh I'm very closest as off member of the point is Roy. He's been busy. Rois been doing this and as much as we're all impressed with the way Mike. Tyson, looks on the midst. As ways, we're all impressed at his body can still function and move. There is a reality that he's very openly coming off the couch. He signed the contract for fight, Roy Jones junior with a joint in his mouth. Not Speaking out of school, he filmed it, and then he released it to the world. I also notice and bring this evaluation to you armed with the fact that the odds makers in Vegas have already put Mike as a favourite over Roy. You come to your own conclusion on this. But. Roy has tested himself with the bigger boys. Go back and see Roy's career. When he moved up took on Ruiz just by example, all that hard time. Roy was too fast. To make believe that. Roy, is slow down would be reasonable. To. Make believe he slowed down as much as Mike slow slowdown when Roy never stopped doing it I think is a little bit of a stretch. Now. WHO's GonNa win this fight. We'll take a look at it. They're going to get the training videos. They're going to get us all leapt up back and forth. We're all. GonNa. Have some fun. That was the deal that was the deal we made with Mike. When he came out the idea you do it, we'll back. But it looks as though. Here. and. It looks as though right now that probably would be favoring Roy Jones Junior. Homs that Shemaya of okay. Guys I don't know if I have ever seen a guy looked more comfortable. In. Mixed. Martial. Arts. I'm not saying for a debut. I'm not saying for a guy that did to fights and ten days. I'm not saying for a new guy with a big reputation that gets rounds at sparring with guys couldn't big as Alexander. Gusts and said I'm saying I don't know if I've ever seen a guy compete and look that. Comfortable. Now. Maybe he's an actor. He's a damn good one. He looks as composing relaxed as can be. Now. He and mark. Madsen have got to get put together and one thing that did come out of his two victories back to back. First round stoppages blah. Blah? Blah. Is that they're going to do it again, they're going to live on this gimmick. They're going to run them out one more time. They're saying they would like to get it done within a month. Okay. That would be super cool, and by the way, watch what's going to happen. Okay. It's very hard to build a star because the one thing that you need is a period of time. And I can just tell you in the original days k ninety, three through ninety seven. There was tournaments and not just within the UFC, within the mixed martial arts tournaments. So if you can get a guy to win a turf, you can just hold a tournament bringing eight guys. Whoever comes out of that thing will be a star in one day. That is something that simply can't be done anymore, we don't have tournaments, you can't get a guy three victories in one day, three victories will take the course of a year. Everybody gets three fights in a year and you'd have to be remain undefeated for the entire year. It's a very special thing. If. This guy can go out and get three fights by the way, three wins and do it all. By the time September rolls around, I mean the momentum behind this young man is shocking. But the match to make for him is Mark Matts and make no mistake about it looked marcus into spring chicken. But he's busting on the scene and he's undefeated, and he might not have done it both within two nights, but he's still undefeated. He's also an extremely decorated by credential by resume wrestler. Then, you've got Khabib two point. Oh, coming in this guy's going out wrestling absolutely everybody, but it doesn't have the paper behind him. Compete. One point is the same way he did most of his wrestling and the practice room. In. Dagestan, with war Olympic, champions didn't necessarily go out at Inter. Those competition. So I only offer this were you that if there's going to be a push here, let's go ahead and push. One. Of these guys is as great a wrestler as it appears on TV, but one of them's not. As simple as that. And they're really not at a point in their career where you we need to build and or protect their at a point in their. Hey, is this real or is not because we're I'm sitting at home. This year looks like something very special happening. And I'm giving that both. Two Point, oh, and Manson. There's something there. But I'm I'm seeing the same guy. I'm seeing the same style. I'm seeing this same aggressive aggressiveness I'm seeing these same intangibles, which is an ability in a calmness and a willingness to go out there and compete. Compete, two point has a fight coming up before that fight is announced book. I would like to offer my suggestion. Get Him Mark Mattson. So we've had two weeks of the UFC middleweight division on display whether it was Jack, versus Kelvin weather. It was whitaker, versus till we got one more coming up. Shabazz Ian. Versus Brunson. Guys. We don't have any more clarity now than we did when this whole thing started, we really don't and in many ways. It's very tough to have what we would call a semi-final in mixed martial arts. It's very tough to go. Okay. Here's the fight and whoever wins advances to the championship round. It just doesn't work that way. By example, let's say till would have beaten, whitaker? That's going to give you a little bit more clarity because it also allows a parody. It would make till undefeated within the way class one over the former number. One contender one over the former champion boom, he could go into Oughta Sonya, go into. Kosta. And it's going to be brand new. Fresh coat of paint. Everything's new whole bunch left to wonder that's great for the business. That's what you guys like. That's what fans like. That's what media likes starts to build some ideas. Well, when Whitaker Wins Whitaker's never a bad idea, he just doesn't satisfy the need for parody. Okay. Fine. But hold that thought. Because, it does satisfy the need for parody, ifw, Paulo Beats Oughta Sonya. Now, all of a sudden whitaker's looks like a pretty obvious answer. Well, would all depend how the fight between Paulo, and is the Oughta Sonya wit because of sign he gets upset a lot of people are GonNa? Say, well, we gotta do an immediate rematch to see the problem. The problem. Then you've got show basin the youngest guy in the entire division, the youngest guy in the entire sport who matters. Who Matters in a title picture, let me clarify that say somebody doesn't matter. That would be a little rude prefer tidal picture ship as the youngest guy. Last time he thought he was twenty one years old I believe he's had a birthday sense. He's twenty two years old, and by the way he matters owned by the way he's fighting in a main event away class. That is in need of somebody to emerge. eighty-five is very fun right now, and before you think that you're going to hear any of this ago Ouch Hale. That's got to be really. Really. Bad for morale for you know the fellow eighty, FI- powers with no clarity like that. No. please. Please don't get the wrong interpretation through this. This is awesome. This show bazy and versus Brunson is about to be a main event on ESPN. You understand the relevance of that. They're saying how many guys ever get to fight on ESPN. Let alone headline show owned by the way they are so good. They can headline show with how to championship on the line. A great space to spot to be just understand what's going on the sport. There are some fights out there right now. Truly. That are bigger than the title. We have seen that through history, but very uncommon, very few and far between. For example, whatever connor does next. Can you think title fight that's going to be bigger than whatever connor does whatever Jorge Mas, but all does next, George, Mazda was to fight conor. By example, there's fights out there. That are bigger than the title doesn't mean you need to WanNa more doesn't mean you take your eye off the ball competitor and go out there and try to get that championship not at all. But it also means that if you don't get the call for the championship, you have very special things to do right now just as Brunson. The kids out there on the interwebs are talking about Tyson versus Roy Jones Junior, and the large consensus from the ones on the underground that I saw was. Hey, before you get too excited about this fight fans before you start trying to give an analysis about Mike's Power versus Roy speed. Please understand this is a cash grab. This will be an exhibition sparring and these guys are both in Okay I have to stop you right there. Every time somebody boxes and the boxing fight. Does it go away that boxing fans thought it was going to go they call for fix. Boxing fights are very seldomly fixed back in the olden days where they were, but very seldomly were. They fixed that usually robbed a guy through the judges there was something along the lines of that. These gorgeous work matches I'm going to have to tell you before you come to this very lazy diatribe that these guys are just going to go out there and move around and there's no legacy and they don't care whatever they can run off with is this. I have to tell you. There is nothing more shameful within the sport and your time two of the greats in the history of the sport. If, you think that at some point and Mike Tyson's life. He just going to sail one in and give a big middle finger to the fans and not take a competition that he swore to take seriously. seriously. I mean that would just disappoints me. I would be so disappointed. I'd be stunned that would be illegal. That would be against the law. If this goes through a commission, which by the way they're carrying odds and people part with their money for it be completely illegal. You might still be a big auto. Yeah, but it's Mike's last time. Does he care? They're going to take his license away so well? Roy It's not Roy's last time. I don't think I mean Roy has been pretty busy. Roseman. Pretty active. Roy's got his own a promotional company. Roy Jones Junior boxing. Sometimes, he shows up I. Don't believe that he's GonNa WanNa, go out like that. Either these guys are competitors I. IT feels to me like that's very dismissive and it doesn't feel to me like it's the first time. I've heard this narrative when connor went out and beat up Floyd Mayweather for thirty minutes. A sport that he had never done before round after round being robbed. From him by Nevada state athletic. Commission. People came back and they try to rewrite it and say, well, Floyd was carrying him. Floyd wanted some action and he wanted to go. That's just not what happened. It just shows it silly a real silliness. You can't do that. They would take your license away. No unarmed combat athlete would ever do that nobody in armed combat would do that. Was Overseas fighting in a war and they could have ended a lot quicker. But we thought we'd have a little cat and mouse with it's insane. and. Now, people are talking about these guys are going to go out and they got some kind of Elbow Elbow, wink wink with each other. If. Any part of what you're saying is right. If that turns out to be true there needs to be action taken against them nothing within history of Tyson or Roy Jones, junior would lead you to that conclusion. There's nothing within their trainers or their camps. There's nothing about these guys walking out of of an audience where they've ever tried to do anything within their life other than get their hand raised. I have. No. Evidence. I can prove to you. That, what I am saying is right. I guess I'm just a fan speaking to other fans. Let's you know if you're right. And they're going to do anything but anything other than compete and try to win. That would really let me down. Let's take a look at the heavyweights so. Steep versus. DC. Number of weeks, three weeks away. One of two things is gonNA happen here. Either DC's going to win. Or Steep. Is, going, to win. Now, before you think yet, she'll no kidding I gotta tell you. It's very hard to come up with a prediction for this until the absolute last minute. Okay. Let me, personalize it, and tell you what happened with me. When this fight you got announced for the first time, DC is going to move a first time ever simultaneous champion versus champion never been done before when this fight gets announcement, it was steep. A was the entire time steep. It was just too big steep a steep steep, and there's a reason. Daniel left the weight class steep. The nothing more Thursday of the fight. They do what's called Media Day, but there's an open workout. So Daniel Cormet goes to work. Guys don't forget. They've already done the ultimate fighter. They've done absolutely everything training videos, every piece of promotion you can do. This is the absolute last thing. All that's left on DC's calendars to weigh in the next morning and go out and compete with steep. So. Thursday over the fight. DC does this work out. He grabs a microphone. They're fighting fights going to vegas grabs a micro. Hey, for all you guys, I. Just heard I'm a two and a half to one underdog you WanNa make some money. Go Bet on me and remember one thing I've never lost heavyweight. Never, a fight, never a wrestling match never even around. And as soon as they said, Oh, my goodness DC can win this. It never even crossed my mind for whatever reason that he could win the fight. You got a guy that's left the division going to take on the most decorated heavyweight of all time. This one's pretty simple nothing to see here. Okay. Hold that thought looked to their next fight because that wasn't an overly competitive fight, two minutes. Forty seconds in DC with an uppercut with a hook. We all go home. Their next fight, it appears we're to go see the same thing we've already seen, and then all of a sudden that day of Wayans one day before the contest EP gets on the scale at two hundred and thirty pounds. The narrative changes in a heartbeat, the line starts moving, but it's it's going in each direction. Some people are looking at us. Oh, my goodness deep as at two thirty. He's in the greatest shape of his career and they were put money down and other people are going. Wait a minute steep as lost eleven pounds. Never had any fat on to start with. So now he's taken off eleven, pounds of the only thing he has, which is muscle. That is not a good idea. But this was the narrative and we didn't know about it until one day before the same way that Daniel Cormet. Remind us of factual history of his numbers. Steve Brings in a whole new number, which is eleven pounds less than what he had the first time. So all the dialogue changes will only tell you that because this is one where I have a feeling. We, as viewers are going to change our opinion many times in the next few weeks. Possibly after the open waken way like the first fight and possibly at the way in itself. Based on the number, they both come to the scale too. Steep totta something. He taught us that he can move around a little bit better. He's equally strong and he's a little bit faster winnings closer to to thirty institute forty. Okay. Fine. She never been a guy that anybody said that guy really could use some way. He's just not. He's built the right way. Cormier as wake can fluctuate a little bit and he also has a number. What that number is. What's the perfect number for the perfect match? That's something that we've. We may never know that's kind of a trial and error situation and look back and see how it went, but I'm just offering for you. I think that we're going to go back and forth on this fight. I, think we have the right to I. Think we have the evidence in front of us, being that the same athletes said the same thing at the same weight class for the same amount of time and got two different results. I, think we're GONNA play a little bit of musical chairs with who the favourite is in this fight. The good news. Going to have to play that game for about three more weeks. Help me out with something guys. If you know the answer I do not. So Mike Perry, comes out and he says that he's training with you. L., Romero, it was very complimentary of your. Well, what a what a clashing styles for these guys right mean to stand up guy you well with this decorated wrestling. And Perry called the workouts terrorizing workouts. That's how complementary he was of of his new partner you will. But I was getting something different from this because where we left off, Perry was in Albuquerque. All of a sudden before Perry's last fight with making golf. Perry is not an albuquerque. He is training somewhere by himself with the help of the new girlfriend, which I thought was more for fun and marketing is my own opinion. But. He wasn't a team and so after the fight. This such, a great post fight interview. But he said a lot of things including I. Need to find a gym. I need to find a team. This was not a great idea what I just did. It was just all I had. We were in quarantine left over here, and now I'm living over here and I haven't quite got a band together yet. So the fact that he's training with Yo l, here's my question. Does that mean? He's now part of the American top team because I don't feel like it does feel like if he was part of the American top, he would've said, I'm a part of the American top team. Oh, by the way, just to work with your Romero, that's not how it was worded, which made me think okay. Did he hook up with your well? End Up in Florida, are they doing like garage in gym workouts right now? I don't know. I like that they're working together. I. Don't see anything that could possibly go wrong with those two guys together and I do like the idea of Perry focused. and. One thing you have to have in training k. one thing you have to have is you have to have three things. You gotTa have guys. You can whip. You gotTA. Have guys that can whip you and you gotTa have guys that you push back and forth. Guys that are real close guys that can put it on you guys that you can put it on and so many people think. No, I, only WanNa work with guys that are better only the best guys. What happens there is you end up not being able to get enough offense going that you don't then practice enough offense and you also over a period of time, learn how to lose. It's all you learn. How to do is lose you get beat every single day. So now you don't have any confidence in your technique is your technique isn't working. You're able to sell yourself on the idea of no, it will work when I go with lesser competition. Therefore. You're able to justify losing every day, which is why over time you accept losing every, you gotTa have all three guys. You can whip guys who could whip hugh. But then guys worth real close. It's back and forth. Maybe you went around, he wins two rounds. You went a couple rounds, he gets you. Back and forth, you gotTa have that. So I still have questions if Perry is only with a guy who is telling us is terrorizing him. Who by the way is roughly two weight classes above. Perry. Depending on what day in where Perry decides to go. What Day where you'll L. decides to go. Feel like we need a couple of more bodies here. So. Here's my simple question. Is Perry just out in floor and hooked up with well or has Perry joined the? Sports. Keep coming back. So does your chance to bid on them with our exclusive? We drink partner Ben, online, Major. League baseball is now in full swing and the NBA has also begun. There's no shortage of ways to get in on the. Action. Belen has all the odds, futures and props for you to bet on. Make sure you stay tuned as bet online sat down with ex athletes from the different professional sports leagues as they gave their opinions on what it will be like to play without any fans health risks, and what a championship means for the two thousand, twenty season Nfl Hall of Famer. Eddie. George. 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He made a statement I'd like to read you this statement. correy says, it has been a long road back, but nevertheless, we are back and ready to begin February twenty. First following my last fight I blacked out and collapsed smashing my face on a gravel road. Okay, he ends up in the Er for five days. They run numerous tests and blood work to figure out what happened. I saw a long list of different doctors all but one said it was to major concussions and lack of water meaning. He was dehydrated and food after hiking through the woods for hours a doctor. One doctor. Would tell me it was my heart that my heart had stopped beating and it could happen again. But next time it could happen in a fight instantly my wife. Says that through all of our emotions, she became very angry with doctors because they were very scared. I take many trips to Nyu hospital meetings. Every several different specialists. Doing. Many more tests and undergoing two very painful patient heart. To, find more evidence to go along with one of the doctors notes. He had put a complete halt on my career as a fighter Intel. I was clear that my heart was safe to compete. As of last Monday night. I left the hospital for the final time after my last procedure with a clearance note in hand and the doctor telling me congrats Mr Anderson, you can go back to beating people up. After my fight, the commission medics failed to do the proper post-fight checkup and I went back to Libyan life normal Anderson continues. And I paid a hefty price. This whirlwind five months. I have put a lot of things in perspective as a veteran fighter who in the past has just fought with reckless abandon and no care for rest and mental health. As long as I keep training and fighting I, advise other fighters to look after your health. It took some big shots to my head to put this into practice. Don't let it happen. Happen to you. It took me having my son sitting there. Looking at me in the hospital bed to realize there is life after fight it and I want to be there to enjoy it fights smart train smart, but recover and rest smarter, use your head while you still have the brains to do. So great I, think everything's worked out for Corey. Guys I want to repeat one thing that he said. Kay. Terrible Corey went through this, but it looks like he's through it. If he's GonNa, come out the other side in hand us a piece of advice from his experience I. Want to repeat one. Fight Smart. TRAIN SMART, but recover and rest smarter. That's the takeaway core went through a lot in five months was very brave of him to command and share this. But here his words in here them one more time. FIGHT SMART TRAIN SMART, but recover and rest smarter. Guys, this is a hard sport to do, but it's also a hard sport. To plan a schedule around K. The one thing that is different from MMA than possibly any other sport and certainly any other sports league is there's no season. So when you when you have these other sports that have a season that even has a built in rest period that even has okay. These seventy eight totally off. Stay up late, sleep. If you need to eat some bad food, you're off, you feel like lifting or go and getting some sprints in, don't do it. I. Mean. That's a built in. That's a very real thing and the coaches and the trainers and the authorities that put these break periods in are doing. This is particularly important for young athletes. Particularly important for a guy whose body is still growing for a nine year old for a twelve year old for a high school kid. You're not only freshening their body. You're not only letting all the cells and. We could talk about the physiology of it. All we want, but you also want to rest their mind. You want them hungry the number, one thing you want to do as a coach. Is motivate, your athlete. You want to teach them the sport. That's the last thing you do and you do it and it's important. But that's the last thing you do the number. One thing you do as a parent as a coach as the support as a principal as an authority figure as a promoter as you make sure that they come back tomorrow. That, they want to come back tomorrow. The tomorrow's turned into weeks. The weeks turn into months. Months turned into years. That's what's known as a career. So you WANNA start with his motivation which involves keeping that mind fresh. The only reason I bring that up. It's very relevant to what cory's going through. The accords going through as he comes out of a match, he goes. Okay, I'm in great shape. I just trained just peaked I did everything right I eight rights slept right. I went I. had my match win or lose I. DON'T WANNA lose this momentum. I don't want to lose his great big snowball that I've built up over time. So I'm going to get right back into the gym. Yes, that's awesome. But there's a way to do it right back into the gym, does not mean right back into sparring in the gym. It could mean, okay, the next two weeks. I'm going to work every day because I, don't want to lose this this base, this level of conditioning and I'm going to see nothing more than a treadmill by example. The next four weeks, all I'm going to see is a treadmill, a heavy bag. The next six weeks almost sees a treadmill a heavy bag in the pile, just by example. But this Evan flow is very important. It's very important not only for the recovery of the body but. Hungry Why? Talked about getting your mind fresh? What I'm talking about is. Finding that motivation, every coach will tell you have to be motivated. You have to be driven. You have desire you have to want it. Yeah. Those are great words and they're helpful when you have them. But. There's other things that you can do charge that battery up and one thing that has proven over time to make an athlete want to continue to do athletics. is to, stop, Him. At some point, you stop them seven weeks. Eight weeks seems to be the sweet spot. You Stop Them. You make them get that hunger back that desire. Every day in Africa and do I WanNa go to practice today? They'll always be grateful when the practice is done. But every day before the work. You start to find these reasons to not go. That can go away when you're forced to not come when a coach locks the door when a coach calls you and you can't come in. I'll see in a month. I only share this for him because very tough balance. What Corey Anderson did, and the reason he ended up in the spot is because he was a hungry driven motivated dedicated athlete. But Corrie himself is now coming out and telling us. Those are great words, but don't forget one more. That's also a great work be smart. Be. SMART. Is An, athlete, it's hard to do more. It is harder to do less. It is harder to put the reins on. It is harder to leave the room after one hour when you're used to train an hour and fifty minutes, it's harder to do less. But. Doing less at specific times in specific exercises within the sport is two coreys point. Smarter. Our guys. Let's do some fan questions in the feet and the undisputed chill on question which you see champion. Do you had the horrors road together built? Oh, the road to the hardest. You know, you're the second person to bring that up. There was a top going around social media week ago, and it was who is the greatest fighter to never be champion. And that was an interesting one because that's also open for interpretation, like by example, the best fighter in every even be given an opportunity to fight for the championship I would have to put his Jacques Ray. But. Damian Maya. Went on quite a run to. I'm well aware the Damian got a couple of titles shots. But it looked as though he should have had another one matt. Brown won seven in a row and it's possible. He won eight Leon. Edwards. is currently sitting on eight. Just by example, some of the guys that never even got the opportunity. So, then you have to look at also the guys that did the opportunity in came the closest, but then leave with it and I think that's very obviously Gustafsen. Two different nights, Gus could have been world champion two different nights. The fight with JJ, the first time, the fight with DC, which was a split decision by the judge that he did when he's got to be the closest. But. Your questions a little different, which is who had the hardest path and I think you're gonNA be left with nothing more than an argument there. Right? I mean I would have to even go back to the guys. The original guys voice, Gracie's of the world. That had to do the tournament and go through three guys in one night when there was not even away and it was all open class and you're giving up fifty pounds. Three different times in one evening. That sounds pretty hard. I mean that sounds like what you're asking me that sounds pretty hard. or You could look at somebody like Matt Sarah. Who to get the opportunity had to go through the ultimate fighter? That is the toughest tournament in all of sports and the ultimate fighter will change you. It will absolutely change you I, I went through it twice as a coach, but the first time I went through it. I was Vinnie was there and then he was Ju Jitsu coach, but he was a participant through the ultimate fighter himself. So he had that experience and he I remember he told me this on the very first day and he said Shale I followed the so closely and I lived through it I'm telling you now. Whoever you go to bed tonight, it's on our very first day. Whoever you go to bed tonight thinking is the best guys all the way down to the worse guys that is going to flip. Because it becomes a mental game. It becomes very mentally draining and the guys in the house are also having an Alpha right now, and they are going to identify who the strongest and the hurt is, and then they're gonNA plans around him. That guy. Is Not. Going to be in a few weeks. He's remember when he told me that because I remember thinking. You're wrong. That's a weird thing. You're telling me Vinnie thirty days later when the process is done, Vinnie was spot on exactly what he described. Offer that for you, because Sarah had to hang on, get through three guys including schone. Carter, who front not for nothing. But had beaten map before Spain spinning activist. So. Then when they rematch, the ultimate schone hits back I again, I mean, that's a hard thing. When you gotta go through somebody who's already beat, you just is not to mention everybody else Oh and you're only reward for doing that as you're going to get locked in a cage. With the greatest to ever done it. Oh, should I mention you're GONNA have to go into enemy territory to do. So I, think when you look at it like that, you have to consider Matt Sarah I would make the same argument for Michael Spain. I mean, almost identical. You look who beat, but you also have to look at the fact that he wanted to ultimate fighter and one thing Bisbee never gets credit for because people. Forget it. See One ultimate fighter at two hundred and five pounds. Only fight, he lost it two hundred and five pounds was to Rashad Evans who went on to be a world. Champion is current hall Famer, and by the way that was a split decision. One judge thought this being one was two, hundred five. then. He goes down eighty-five, even the night where he was given his opportunity, he was a last minute replacement. It gets loot Rocco, who had already beaten him before he took the fight on eight days notice. That sounds really hard. That's your question who had the hardest road. You can keep this game going, but I feel what I just laid out for you. Qualifies as hard. Uncle Fail. The Beth. Israel because you. Because that have a nice interest breakfast. For you. The only one. WHO Doesn't think he'll be coming in deserves a rematch. That he's you know the number one contender. No I I don't think he's ever lost round I, think the only person. Is Ever lost round against. Is the Kobe Covington other than one judge in the Mazunov? And? Hobie Covington I don't think he's ever lost around before. Other. Than Against Tomorrow Zeman and I understand. Yes, he was stopped. But. If that style of fighting is no way. No. One's going to you know get stopped when you fight the way those two fought. and. When I see those two fight I, it gives me. Memory like I, kind of compare them to the GOP Johny Hendricks rivalries. What I see in them, I think those are. Clearly. The two best welterweight S- You know that lives other guys could crash the party but I think they're a little bit above the rest of the field, not that whatever he's very, very away class. But? Everybody I feel like you know, Covington that showers off, he fights masks at all nothing win. That will back in the mix I. Don't. I don't know about that. Now, I think that you know I think that those to look very well, i. think they showcased skill. We didn't know they had their striking. in my opinion, it was one of the best fights of all time. That's one of what your opinion is on that because I feel like a lot of people aren't really giving Covington no, the credits do we fought an awesome flight and For the best performances even though it wasn't his way I thought it was awesome performance. Thank you. Thank you for the reminder. I'll join you for breakfast. I gotTA. Tell you this. I listened to that question. I think you're attempting to do is to make sure your complemented one hundred and seventy pounds for the depth. A weight class where you're making an argument. Of who should be going against the champion owned by the way, you also think there's guys who can beat the champion. You've got a really great weight class. Now, when you are Osmond I heard, you say that he had ever lost around except for those two colby and the one judge had Mazda winning one somewhere along the way who's been lost a fight and I never saw it. I've looked forward. Forward. I can't find. I don't know if it was early in the USC after he won the ultimate fighter, I don't offers on the regional seen before he busted on, but he's got a record of sixteen and one, I. Don't even know who that one is I feel like we should know right with the champion of the world. Only lose one fight I. feel like we should know who that's to. I've never known. I, do want to tell you when you are talking about Okay Gilbert birds is GONNA be next by example, go back a week ago Tyron. Woodley, certainly earned the right to an opinion within that weight class said, Gilbert, Burns is going to win. The ground fight? My question was. Is, Tyron is tired of Woodley Sane Gilbert Burns is going to win the portions of the fight that end up on the ground or. is T would sane predicts Gilbert to win by taking it to the ground and. And beating Kamara look. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. Those boys are going to have to go figure it out. But the mere fact that he top contender and a former champion in the weight class who has fought both of them giving Shiny Gilbert Burns. ADDS to the idea that, yeah, we we put Gilbert in there and the point that you made about colby being hardest. Absolutely. That's true and you want to know who would agree with that statement who's been. Who's been was cool. After that fight, he said man I thought, I beat this guy a lot easier. That's guys tough guy to see him again, and when he climbs backup I'll give him a shot. I will tell you one thing on that fight. So close. It's so dirty. Dirty right from Jump Street, and these guys are going at in that building man that tencent in that building they into the fifth round is to a piece that's official three judges. It comes down to the fifth round and then you have the controversial stoppage. Controversial in that Kobe, Covington disagreed with the stoppage when you have fights like that, you redo them. You run on back. You make the fight that night at the press conference. One thing we figured out tonight. Is it of Kamar who's The baddest dude? Kobe's the second? One thing we found that would-be said at the press conference, you re book the fight. What happened is there was a false rumor. The Kobe had his jaw in the fight. There's no way to rematch a fight at least right away until you find out what medical issue guys going through. How long is? We're GONNA have to wire this Josh does it? One all going to go into it. So. That didn't get remarried look I do think that fights going to be made. Colby t would are going to square off. Something's going to happen with Leon but it's not right away and Gilbert's GonNa. Go Fight Kamarck. I'm happy to have this conversation with you or anybody else as many times as we want to have it. But generally these conversation stop. Once fights are announced. We have these conversations debating what fight should be announced these. Pfizer. announced. So sit back. Let's enjoy it Gilbert Burns. It earned the opportunity. He's taking a guy. He knows well in a former teammate of Comorros when we have something to look forward to there. By the way anybody else likes what we're doing here with breakfast. This is from magic spoon and you can click on the link below grab a variety pack. Be Sure to use the Promo Code Shale at checkout. You're going to get free shipping or just go to magic spoon dot com slash chair I never planned to turn this into a little plug for this wonderful cereal, but I felt like you really helped me. I, feel like we did something here. Jail, you've been part of live athletic competition during this global pandemic with submission underground. You've observed the Herculean efforts of the. You have to put on a series of international sporting events on fight island. Now, with the twenty twenty one, Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games just one year away and twenty twenty to Beijing. Winter. Games not far behind at this point, in July, of twenty twenty. Do you believe the Olympics will proceed. And if so, what will that look like? Want to know your thoughts Oh dom. Yes. I. Do I really do and okay. So let's back up to what you said. You were talking about the huge efforts, Dana White had to go through to bring his sport back and nobody was wrong there. Let me just remind you the first show Dana was going to bring back was going to be on April eighteenth, and that was going to be called UFC to forty nine. So David did not tell everybody what his whole plan was when he said. Said, no look I got this. I got experts. We've taken every precaution. We can move forward and do the safely. He he was working so hard. He didn't have time to come tell the world with that idea was. So Dana Wasn't wrong, but the people that stepped in front of him came, the politics were involved here, but the people that stepped in front of him because they weren't armed with the fact that it was going to be something different than had been for the previous twenty years. They were to say, no, we can't do this when the whole thing worked out. Okay that they did it work. I'm going to do to forty nine. I've got to move the date but allow me to tell you all. This is going to be ok well, that changed everything. When he started talking about the bubble and the rooms and the mask and the quarantine, and the way that we're going to get meals all the way, the way they were to get, Lennon's they were going to cut weight separately commissions coming I, mean, this was a big deal. This was extremely well thought out all the way to the post fight interviews all the way to how the fighters are going warm up. Everything was thought out. So once Dana comes out and says, look, there's ways to do this. We figured out, we are going to go and do it. then. He's very transparent. Anyone who dig if fly boom they got flagged. Here's how we out and here's how we're dealing with everything was transparent will as soon as you start to see that and go. Oh okay. We had no idea you were going to do any of those things. We had no idea. All these changes would be made and you're right. That sounds extremely safe. So Dana. I'm GonNa, help you one step further. I have all of this written down. Everything we're doing is off the top of my head, got a team that wrote this thing down. This is called a blueprint. I am giving this to anybody who asks. Now. Everybody Thought Dana. He'll give it to Roger. Goodell. He'll give it to the NBA. You're a hockey guy, go ahead and take an Olympic shore and see you bet, no, Dana, give to anybody if you're a high school. If you're a junior I if you're a little league coach, get hold of my office, tell me the facts and get your copy of well that was huge, and as you do look at what has happened with other sports, they are taking that blueprint and some of them have changed a little bit good for them. And some of them are delaying a few good for them. Nobody's wrong here. But it is important as we look forward and we start to see there's ways to do it. I mean, this is a very real thing. I just went through it domino's with belot. Over the weekend, we go out to the Mohegan Sun in Connecticut and I got briefed on everything that we're going to do and in all fairness I don't know if that is something we're writing down to look a certain way or visit in fact, going to be policed and carried out as it's written to the letter letter of the word if you will, it was carried. Carried out a bubble, we had a portion of the casino was locked off before we were allowed to get on an airplane. We had a submitting negative Cova test to by the way that had to be within seventy two hours of boarding set airplane. The second we land, we go to a covert tests report back to our room for forty eight hour quarantine. You cannot leave the room for any reason including food. Until the results of that test comeback now, I'm just offering a few suggestions for you as to what's happening but This. Appears to be a very real thing. The NBA, having some great results with it. The NFL is talking about getting some close to that baseball's talking something to getting close to that. yaws island is one hundred, percent, ten Mile Square radius bubble. When you talk about the Olympic Games girl, you are talking about Olympic Village, you have built in bubble. You have been built an area. The distancing appears to be something that people really want to lock onto. Of course, you've got all the basics that we learned about what the rubbing into the washing of the hands and the touching of the face. Mask some of these protocols. Yes. Yeah. I. Really. Do think that they're going to have the games i. think in many ways. Had we known when we canceled the Games? What we know now I in many ways I think we could be doing this year. Understand. We're not nobody's reading the Games we were scheduled to start. Less. Than a month I'm just sharing for you the yes. Now, we've got not only the rest of that. We've got thirteen months before the Olympics. Yes. Yes. The, Olympics are going to go on. This is your welcome with jail and. Did you know right now gyco is offering an extra fifteen percent credit in car motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money. GYCO could already save you. So what are you waiting for your dog to make breakfast in bed, your Belgian waffles and a fresh fruit compote as nice as that sounds, that's probably never going to happen. But at least there's no better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit Geico Dot. Com to learn more. Now back to your welcome with Jail Sunan. Let's Talk Khabib. Okay. So backup. Versus Gay Chee mid-september. Everything that's been very public going on, with Khabib, and his family in the morning process, and then we were given an update that fight is on, it's going to happen sometime in two thousand twenty that got narrowed down. So take the original mid-september move for a month. It's going to go down in October, but in conjunction with that news, coming out onto beat. Dana White has now showed for the first time that he is open to the idea of Kabieh versus gs. And he said I, Love Khabib. And I don't think there's anything I would tell him. No. That's where this topic came up. I'm very close to the quote, but it opened the door for the very first time and it seems as though. That is one topic that his just sustained throughout times throughout a pandemic throughout different shows, different headlines, different champions, different contenders. This idea of getting Khabib George together just hasn't seemed to go away. and. The one thing that has always stopped it historically. Is Dana Simone interested in that. I don't love the fact that George Saint Pierre. Came back into one, five, hundred, eighty, five pounds walked away. We've got no champ. I love that idea and this time. Georgia's telling me upfront. If he can grab fifty five, he's done right off in the sunset, I'm going to relive what I already went through. The first time. Today he's now saying, you know if this is something that could be really wanted. So I guess my way to interpret this first off. That's good news because I enjoy the topic that match happens or not I think the topic and the dialogue is fun for everybody involved. In Georgia's one of these guys very similar to Connor who has left the sport, but who guys keep calling out. Were guys, still see an advantage. Generally anybody retires. You tip their hat, you wish them well in that. See it. For Connor, George current athletes still see something there. That's that's a respect and fairness. That's a major respect. Kamar. Showed that respect to George Khabib is showing that respect of George. But I think of where to take Dana. Words. And in all fairness, that might be a little extreme. This could've been an offhand comment, but if we're GONNA take him at his literal words. That I guess all we need is for Khabib. To be gay cheesy and then ask for the fight. Sparked a little bit of a debate over here at the studio and we've got Dana saying, yes, we have Kabeba on record in the past saying. Yes. But now we have Saint Pierre, whose idea was initially saying I. Don't know about that and that is true Georgetown and interview a week ago in George said you know sometimes? I. Really WanNa do it I'll watch these guys on TV and I'll still think I could be the most. Motivating I particularly feel confident in myself when I get done training, but then I, go home and I cooled down a little bit which means the endorphin start to go away whenever you're training. There's a little bit of a high. That high comes from the release of endorphins that come through Gideon sweating getting your heart rate up. So you're not always thinking that clearly, you'll see guys in the octagon all the time. They'll give an interview right after the fight say something crazy and they'll get to the press conference and they'll bring it down a little bit. Well, that's the orphans. That's that highness coming through and so George said, you know sometimes I'll go home from training. Car Ride. Home, I feel like I'm GonNa jump back in there. I. Get home. I had dinner a cool down and turn the TV on think if I WANNA go through another one of these training camps. So. We are left with a very clear answer from George. If he still wants to do this but I do have to look into that. Go I was Georgia's idea. It's something that he wanted to pursue. He was told no about now doors getting more importantly. Before you read into too many of Georgia's statements. Make sure you do look at one comment. He made very clearly, which is after training. He's training for something. He is training for something. There is some reason Georgia's in the room. There's some reason that George is in the room. So often that he is still dominating the room. You can't just pop into a gym like Georgia's that is still be the guy unless you're in there all the time. Oh, by the way getting a second workout at some point, they'll just pass you by be one of the guys be good workout party. It'd be more than welcome to be in there, but you're not going to dominate the room. Best fighter ever is still dominated one of the best teams in the world. Do I have clarity on this. No. Do I have an opinion? Yes, I. Think we're one step closer to Kabaeva saint-pierre. Guys, there's some records in mixed martial arts, the just aren't going to be. Now only time is going to tell the answer to that question, but there are some that we would predict and I don't mean silly ones like he was the first. Okay. Great. You can never be the first again, Heus Gracie. By example, I. CAn't Imagine Anybody in the AFC is ever going to win three tournaments because they stopped doing tournaments so. To exclude those and to talk about ones that we see that are still mentioned, say in common talk on a dot com, you might click on in a magazine on the broadcast. By example, there are three that I would be very surprised. If I am ever around to see beaten first off is most wins. Now most wins is currently held by cowboy ceremony. That's twenty three fights. So you gotta understand an athlete gets offered three nights a year. So I you're going to have to make it into the organization. Then you're going to have to accept all three of those Pfizer offered Oh, and by the way, win them for eight straight years. Just to have the opportunity. To Be Cowboy just to have that opportunity. Now Jim Miller is only one or two fights behind him. Jim Miller is still an active fighter. So, Jim Miller, even tie him. When you know that cowboy is still active I mean if they just keep plugging away cowboys days ahead you take Jim Miller, it's going to take somebody eight years winning every single thing that's ever offered to them just to get a tie. Fastest. Knockout currently held by the BEF, champion. That's another tough one. I, just think that's five seconds. Could you? Get across the cage and get to a target in five seconds. Let alone knock him out and don't forget. Knockout time means you'll landed that you got to. You landed the shot. He went down the referee took notice of what happened. Takes a beat for the referee to step in waving off and the timekeeper to stop the clock. All of that has to happen. In five seconds. In, ultimately, turnaround time which right now goes to compete two point Oh. Turn. Around time of ten days. We going to see anything like that. I'm all for I. Only have one resentment to this entire sport. I love the sport I hated that we only got to fight three times a year I hated that want to go every single weekend couldn't figure out why they wouldn't let us fight more off it. Well, he got to basically do that. Ten days apart. Now, they're going to bring him in in less than a month. Okay. Of which we've already knocked down five of those days within twenty five days. He'll be in there hopefully, against Mark Madsen, we'll see how that all plays out, but could you imagine a scenario where somebody fights? Again. In less than ten days, they don't get all ten days that would tie the less than ten days. Very tricky to beat. I mean, for most purposes, we don't even have shows that often we're very strange time right now where we got one two three shows and eleven days. You generally don't even have an opportunity to the by the way. This was also a different scenario because there were a set location. Generally that. Octagon. His Mobile. That things moving around. You can't even get two point eight to point. B. In enough time. So, there's a lot of things that factored into this. which is also gonNA suggest for you I. Don't know that I'll be around. To see anyone win more fights. Donald cerrone have a faster knockout Jorge Mas or get as quick of a turnaround time. To. Point. Dana came out and he was talking about a possibility of. Ski, versus. Holloway. Part three. And, he started a week ago and he said man, that's that's not a hard fight to sell me on I. Get it. I get why they would fight again, but he's come out a little stronger and said that's the fight I would like to make. And I. Said I could understand why the champion invoke enough ski would like something new and so can I. I would not blame Volkogonov Sqi even a tiny little bit. He women did something. He then went and did it again. What do you want after that happens? There was a fight. That I was involved to just as trade partner, but Dan Henderson was training to fight Murillo Bustamante. So they went over and fought, and there was like a head butter something weird happened and Dan wins the fight and boost company did not like that decision. I think it was. But whatever happened. They thought they should get a rematch. So they did one and that fight went longer and it also went to Dan and team Bustamante started to complain and Madeleine told the story he was in dance corner and Matt like stop the guys right as they started complaining Matt Stop, because? That's twice. And the Brazilian top team stopped in their tracks and go. Yeah. You're right. We won't. We won't say a word. Dan You. We're. We're not here. There's something to that is all I'm saying if somebody goes out and does something twice. I don't think that it's right for any of us to then question, Volkogonov, ski. Particularly, when he just saying I, just want someone new Max wants to go down and reclaim this again, but I'm champion right now. I. Get that it's a window and I I want some fresh blood myself I get that completely. I also see we're in a very unique spot here where many people thought Max one, the first one I mean enough people to get the the hairs up on Volkov's skis neck to ask Dana to rematch him. So he make it clear. The second one was more clear than the I in my opinion that. Max One. So? You could see where everybody's saying this. But let's let's just play along. Let's just play along real fast and say. A third fight. Let's say Max's pizza. Is there any way that they don't then have to go do a fourth fight would there be any reasonable way. We're Max all the way because we're done here. I got it. I'm moving on where's the Zombie at? Her take again, what's this guy? I'll be right. That would not be right. He'd have to give Vulcan off Sqi that same opportunity which means they're going to fight for a fourth time. What if Max wins that fight now, they're tied up to a piece I. mean you see the problem here or at least a potential problem here? At some point somebody is going to have to put their foot down and say, no new blood. In Volkogonov ski is the Guy To do that just pretend play along with me. If if Vulcan, enough skis the guy to do that. This isn't one of your typical scenarios where the champion is trying to get an easier night. Go look at one hundred and forty, five pounds. If he says no to Max, then he is saying Yes to one of three people, Rodriguez. Beat or the? Zombie. I. Mean. You're out of the fireplace and ended the frying pan. Very tough wait I. Get all arguments. I personally just as I personally think those to have unfinished business I really do. I did not see those fights. The way they got ruled. It sounds like I'm not alone if we're talking about doing it part three the same time. If I'm in Vulcan off, Ski Spike. I've already done that twice. Did It have fun? The first time didn't have fun the second time, but I did what was asked to give me somebody I got no problem with that either. Oh this just in while I was taking a little coffee break. So it turns out could be two point. Oh Whose actual name is Chamois? It turns out that Shemaya of. Okay. Let's back into a bit of a correction here. Shemaya fought twice in ten days. Yeah. I got an old news. His second fight was at one, hundred, seventy pounds. I did the very simple math because I knew he had fought in two different weight divisions. I did the very simple calculation that his second fight of which was at one, hundred, seventy pounds. Obviously. He was coming up from one, fifty, five to one seventy, right. If he fights it, two different weight classes, whatever he fought at last is the heavier weight. It's the only way that he could make the only way that he could do. It turns out on. Wrong. His whole reason, I've been calling for him to fight Mark Mattson. Fifty five. then. He's showing respect and honor to be by calling. Himself could be two point and nobody else did an interview where he could be the best. But soon, I will be the best. Oh, wow. He's on a collision course for Kabaeva soon as he gets back to that normal way to one, hundred, five turns out. He fought his first fight at one eighty five. Who? The. Heck. Loses fifteen pounds in ninety days. While on an island, not for nothing. Okay. So I looked into that. Call my producer Ryan Up I. Go. Ryan. I'm being told that you might have did this I fight at one, eight, five, five at one seventy. How's that even possible Ryan Shale? That is what happened, but he did not weigh all of eighty five when he fought at eighty-five, he didn't cut wait for eighty five and they couldn't even more weight for seventy. Seventy is a really small eighty-five pounder should probably be at once every few pounds and got on the scale go. Okay. Great. But I got to bring this to the people because if the people have been misled the way I have been misled I use logic I used history, I put my I felt the golden rule. Put yourself in somebody else's shoes. I followed the Golden. Rule. I can't wait in two, zero, five and nine days later in the ring ten days later, faith away class below. Turns out to be a two point Oh. Can do just that. So then. I. Really. Like this guy like his attitude. I'm going to get him what he wants. Now, don't mistake Dane as words for what he wants with who he wants. They just not saying this guy's got open reigns to my office come in and tell me what's going on. He was speaking in the context of the request of a quick turnaround fight and Dana Saint that that is what he wants, and that is what I'm going to get a make sure you understand that for one. So I've seen that circulating a little bit on the the interwebs and the kids had it. Wrong? But secondly, it does leave you to wonder who. And the smart marks on the underground forum have found out that the same day that it was announced that Shemaya of will get a quick turnaround within thirty days to quote. Donald CERRONE started training camp. I do not believe that you're my of Donald are going to fight. I cannot rule out the fact that Donald foreshore will take that fight. For, sure. Don't even have to call and ask just make the announcement, and that's just how cowboy works. I don't particularly love that fight. I really was interested in Cowboy I. figure out, does he want to go fifty five or one seven? I mean I just think there's a little bit of time that can be given to cowboy. But. If you look at a poll somebody with some balls and it's GonNa, take some courage. And get them into the cage yes for four. Sure. You could make that fight. No question. To. My of himself said, his alternate wish would be one seventy pound fight and it would be against Damian. Maya. Now, we asked for my specifically because he said, that's the only guy where I can show the world. Just how good I am at grapple. That would be interesting to me. I've always wanted Shemaya to fight Mark Mattson. Because if he could get marked to the ground. He's going to answer a ton of questions about just how good of a grappler is. The other side is once you get to the ground, what can you do and Damian? My would certainly solve at bill. So it sounds like we've got a few good options out there. Cowboys training for something whatever that is going to be of interest, and I will certainly bring that to you. Once we know the kids under underground speculated that that's against your mile. Dana has cleared the air force to know that Yester- my we'll be back soon. I don't think that we can connect all of those dots just yet. I still do like the idea of Mark Manson however, I also thought that. Was a one, fifty, five powder, who in the hell makes to weights in nine days and chooses the lower weight second. All right, guys. Let's call it. But we will be back on Friday and tell that. I'm. And and you. Are. Welcome. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail son download new episodes every week at podcast. One DOT com. That's Podcast Owen E.. Dot. com. I. Welcome to fair debock twenty twenty presented by online on your host Bram. Weinstein we have an amazing panel of guests. Today. You see Harold Reynolds who played infield in major. League baseball for a number of years, you can see him every day on the MLB network these days in his prestigious broadcasting career. Any George won the heisman trophy back in the nineteen ninety, one of the best running backs in Houston oilers, Tennessee Titans history, and Robert. Ory. Is One of the most clutch basketball players in NBA playoff history. A number of different championships with three different teams over sixteen years. Hyde. All of you. Thanks for joining us today. Place. Also. Let's switch over fans, and let's talk about what's at looks like what that feels like. Eddie played it Ohio state. So you played at one of the most iconic legendary venues that there is an American sport played in the NFL as well. So let's start with you here. The idea of playing football games without fans that that feels like what to you. Know what it feels like and it's it's not. It's not fun. It's You need. The energy, the feed all. Of Your your your whether your home, your home media, you need the fans support you. When you're you're down, you're trying to figure out how to. Or stew adversity as a team on a, you need the fans support, and also when you're on the road, you were opposing teams feed off the same type of energy. So the fans are wearing watch a part of sports anything else. They are definitely play a role in it, and that's the whole point. Is They give and say, that's why they have home field advantage will home. For Advantage, home field advantage is a deadly a field to it to see it's. Like a spring practice if you will feel like any. Of were five scrimmage, you're not gonNA have very much meaning without the thanks WanNa be a different feel. Robert for you. I mean your league, they're going right into the playoffs and there's no fans are what was your experience like having fans in the stands for playoff games and what does it mean to you to not have them in what is the biggest moment of the season for the NBA? Well, for me, I've fed on fans energy in an also love going into a different like visit teams arena, shut him up because it was nothing more satisfying than shut them up in. No, having that thrill, but I think sometimes People don't understand how much athletes we need fans. We Love Fans, and we appreciate him. Greatly, I know a lot of time. We're GONNA act like we don't by not signing autographs, but we really appreciate spans because they give us a energy in the fourth quarter order and. They, excite us to get over that mountain top. I. Think about we played Portland in game seven of Western Conference, finals and game for. Game seven in the fourth quarter down twenty points. But we got those fans behind us to to come through and make them nervous that helped us. That's why you play for homecourt advantage. Just moments like this when you need those fans behind you to get you over the top. So it's hard to play without fans, but I will say this without fans you go see who is the best? Who has the heart and the mindset to get over the top because they don't have the bands, the push a given the extra mile. So now, the truth, the trump talented people are gonna come through the end. I gotTa tell you though it'd be held as a fan. That is one of the unintended consequences here of all. The things that we've always wanted to hear that we weren't sure was ever really going on. Eddie I'm curious with in football some so much vocabulary shared from team to team. offline plays and stuff like that. How will that play? It's and that's that's a great point because you know the. Patriots. They got in trouble for. AUDIBLES, they're getting their the signals knowing they're checking they're getting. So that's that's GonNa, be interesting 'cause the half of crowd noise to mute that out helps and you can't pick up on things, but you can pick up like You know check with me. You know going, right? You know a wrangler in in left the whatever it is, I, mean, you can. You can pick up one of those things. So I think the NFL in terms of game planning week-to-week, they're going to have to change their vocabulary to communicate what they want from plate of. And it's be interesting to see how that happens. From a health perspective, we've established you guys just some level would miss the fans in their presence, but but but what concerns you have about people being in the stands in general. Well, I think if you want to get through the season. Is GonNa to be without fans. 'cause you just you can't risk a fan coming down shaking somebody's hand. Your natural reaction somebody says, Hi to you. You reach out your hand, right fist pump whatever. What happens if a player contacts Cova through a fan? You gotTA contract contact all the fans and you're going to sell the team down I. Just think it's difficult enough to keep the team clean and healthy. And not to involve fans and I know that's not what everybody wants to hear but I think that's where we're at right now, and like I said, this is every ever-evolving who knows by the time we get to September, it might totally be different, but I think for now's were starting up in trying to just get players on the field. I find it difficult to think they're not going to interact with fans. It's just a natural thing to do. So I think that complicates novel. That's just my thought Eddie. What about you you? You said you off, the fans liked having there. With. The public health in your personal health. If you were playing at risk, how do you feel about the idea fans being in the state? Done. I think if you can find the right capacity you can begin to. Kind of. Tarp, all different sections of the stadium is not every Even a normal time. Not every state is gonNA be full anyway. So is only market certain places in think teams at our full capacity on the average needs a handles plans out if they could fans come to come in with mask on to provide can't sanitizers. They're they're laid out protocol. There are no. Player fan interactions there know autographs. Lay, all, the rules table, I, think it can be done appropriately. I think if you can somehow. Manage the concessions. You know six feet distance. Making. Sure people go in one way all the time of they're not all over the place. If you can provide that in terms of a state environment that experienced, it can be done. A lot of the players can necessarily attract Colbert? I'm not an expert I'm not a doctor through fan in Iraq despite them being there. It's more on the spiel debt from other players can hit. Well, we're having fans in the stands. It can be done if it's done appropriately responsibly in has to be will hot out and they have to check able to check the temperatures of people do a are. Testing. In a screaming prior to that, I think it can be done. Ray. Hill you blake. Would you? Have played. I. Probably would've you know single throughout most of my career I mean through all my career, I was single I. Didn't get married till after a baseball. So yeah, I probably would have played. I can understand guys that have the challenges though because of the fact that when you look at Mike Trout, you know his wife is expecting their first child. August and I, remember being a spring training before the shutdown talking to Mike and they was so a static about being home and asking me what was it like in the delivery room in your kids were born and us all enthusiastic about. About all, that s something you think about forever particularly with the first one, and so now knowing that there was going to be an August like a prime miss a couple of games probably back. Then the pandemic hits and he's thrown into this whole decision of one is he going to do and I'll throw that you guys real quick. But challenge for these players is not taking care of yourself. It's all your teammates. Everybody's in it. So I don't know what they're doing when they leave and who they're around and everything else I think that's what presents even more of a challenge would contact testing or if someone all of a sudden outside of your spear has had contact with somebody. Now, you also you gotta get quarantined and those are the challenges and I know that's what might droughts is really struggling with. So that said that long answer being single no kids through my career. Yada probably played, but had I had family like Robert was talking about? Presents a different challenge. Robert Wood you played. If you were still playing right now. Would you play? Up probably wouldn't have because you know it also depends on where I am at my career. You know if I'm like five years in ten Zeno like it was like sixteen years in my career, I wouldn't do it is because I know a boater and on my wife had heart issues, I got a young kid at home. So I probably wouldn't play and plus I've made enough money that in half to play so. that. Makes a big depends on where you are my three was established. So. It's hard to say you know and plus I had seven championship. So. With another. It is hard to say because you love the game of basketball. You Love Your Sport, you. WanNa, get out there and show you craft your crap at the best disability in. It will be one of those things you have to really sit down with your and discussed it and see what they want you to do, and it will be. It'll be hard. But if the me and I know MIA and my wife I would've said, no, I'm not playing because. Of have played enough in my life, and my family life is more important than get some playing a basketball game. Let's end on a big picture question. Optimistically. All leaves. You'RE GONNA play all of them are gonNA chronic champion Harold once you go lasts because baseball is such a unique position with. How they're structuring their schedule and all of that stuff which year start with the NBA since they would be the first literally crowned champion if they can play. Is. There an asterisk Robert for whoever wins gets thing that? You. Know. I. Played in Nineteen Ninety s season where you know we wanNA. Put Ashes by San. Antonio Spurs season because it was A. I. Think. Anytime. You Win a championship is a great accounts. So that shouldn't be an astronaut, it's not like. A happy guys try to competing play, but everybody. Everybody has the same advantage that you have. I'm not one of these guys they believe in the Asterix I. Think if you didn't complete compete and you do what you're supposed to do I, win a championship. You, win temperature. You play hard as individual you. Digital thing I. Know a lot of people. I. Guarantee You. If your team doesn't win, YOU'RE GONNA, say it and if. He. Goes. We. and. So I think when you say that's just bad because everybody had the same opportunity to go out and compete and win the championship in you should. Put yourself in position have the best of advantage of possible to championship. Big Thank you to our panel today, Harold Reynolds. You can, of course, on the MLB network played a number of years in the Majors Eddie Georgia Heisman, trophy winner, of course, raiders, running backs in more alert, Tennessee Titans history, and Robert Ory, one of the most shooter in the history of the NBA of every championships recommend so jealous because he's got. So. Much joy today. and Dr George. Your Fan plenty twenty Raunchy bet online.

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What We Heard In Sports 07/24/20

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

06:37 min | 4 months ago

What We Heard In Sports 07/24/20

"Guys Junior is here with sports. Boxing. You don't want to say sports talk when it is not. Sports talk show. I'm here trying to find stuff. This is just something we heard. Is Sports that's. Okay, new here you. Heard. I just heard my board coming back Mike Tyson just booked his first comeback fight against Roy Jones Jillian wallow. That Yeah Mary told you about. My ties have been trying to get back into the ring. Man and the date is September twelfth in an eight round exhibition fight, and and it's going to be on purview which I'm going to be paying for. A week last! Audit Good. Michael. Buddy native same. Not Roy Roy Jones Junior light heavyweight he. Would need. Me He now man, but he look good though. I mean I can. We won't sports timing. We don't care what players being. Asked. Star swinging. Now! You know Mike. Tyson defeated for Roy Jones fifty one and I might. Say it again. Yes, Mike Tyson fifty four Roy. One years old, so I know. Yeah! Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. You know the nurse. How old you think! They'll roy was. I know it was a lot. Of Crazy. At the Roy was the oldest I. Really did I would think Roy was old you. Just want to see Mike Way I missed Mike Tyson that way and might be talking all that trade. Off Out. There might. This exhibition or they turn actually knock each other. I. Know Mikey might don't. Tell me, there's no such thing as self boxing. Calls in order for the punch. You got the photos speed put to punch to get there. There's no soft box now. Let's go wear helmets, but I think the man I. If his pay per view I think Gobain. To I'm putting my money I bought mine already underway to fight. You bought it already. Does Oh you pay. You bought the game? Fight I'm waiting on Roy Jones junior nice. Do you hear me? Yes? Or when he was fighting. NYSC. Tyson was nice. Yeah, but Tyson. had a different punch dope, and I think at this stage in their life. This is GONNA be a slow fight now. Will be what you used to see. Row Photo debate is going to be briefed. Real doll. Aw Row. You aiding leaders. Got To fifty year old dudes. And they ended ring and they swinging at each other. That's a hard sport man, tall boy. I'm actually got. Really! Well! We don't need to hear from nobody because we won't be able to understand nobody. owns all my money on. But because vehicle. With of he hits you. Go hurt might still mad by. We'll put that on his face, so he got dead. Did that. Did that. I'd. Never go. Mike Tyson. HOLYFIELD FIGHT! US. Here. Right in front of bones, thirds in harmony. Don't? I was only warn in that whole section pulling for Holyfield oh. Man Really. Salt and pepper was there. Vote. Those Hamad was right behind me. I was. Pulling phone a new home. We got to his email. Coming up more music and some trending topics, and some headlines at twenty, thousand nine hundred twenty minutes after the hour right after this, you're listening to Hubert. Junior were continuing with sports. Talk with you. We heard sure. But this is nice though it on about. This is nice man. Baseball started yesterday. Baseball's falls back. And a really nice to see man that the nationals and the Yankees they played, and everybody knelt everybody Tiffany, including the. Oh that was. Having a fit today. He's having a fit. But, Dr Fallacy throughout the First Pitch Let's just say. Stick to medicine, Yeah Donald Engine help us with this pandemic. Baseball down we don't have. Didn't make it the plate. Also. DMV will know that the redskins no more. The team formerly known as the Washington Redskins. They temporarily changed their name I. Don't we need a drum roll for this? Big. Listen to be changed their name to the Washington. Football team off. All. Temporary. They like they like. The artist formerly known as Prince. Sadness. We just football team. Football team you know. The chief it in right now. Vague. The wasn't. Day Thank you for Sports Talk Junior thing on. More, the Steve Harvey Morning Show some trending news coming up thirty three minutes. After the hour right after this you're listening to. Hardy. Morning Show

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8. Kanye West: Mental Health

The For Real For Real Podcast

00:00 sec | 4 months ago

8. Kanye West: Mental Health

"Welcome to the for real for real podcast where we share our realities and perspectives on what's going on in the world of Toltar-, Sports, relationships, society, and much much more all while keeping the real and getting into the sits as we like to say this boy. On Jeff Brooks. The Renaissance Man and they called me to Mac, but my mom calls me trevor. Welcome to show. What's going on, people welcome to the for real for real podcast gentleman. What do you want to get into today? What's what's on your minds? Week man. I'm trying to make sure that also my friends aren't twenty twenty I hear that man and. I'm just trying to keep up with the news and MLB players Nalen that football team changing their name. You got former boxing champions. Talk about stepping back in the ring man. It's crazy time to be a sports fan I R-. Mean we also have a lot of stuff going on around. You know just some toxic relationships and maybe a little too toxic. and. So you know, let's go to Bob in fellows. You, guys have been following of the. May the Stellian torey lanes fiasco big the stallion. She is up probably. The hottest female rapper end game right now Scott Hits with songs beyond say she was just hanging out with Kylie Jenner you weeks ago and what ended up being a new story about? Singer. Laying being arrested. Actually became more of a story of make the stallion being shot in the Foot Harlem nights style. In Word on the street. Is that the culprit behind? The gunshot wounds. was repertory lanes. There's other talk that there may have been some type of entanglement with the two people the to visions. And thinking about just. How did you get there? You even have. What's bag club? What drink playing. Basketball lies dre Michelle. You know popular instagram bigger, the object fashion for many men out there made a comment that she would invite that type of a aggressiveness from her lover, and she got rag on twitter about promoting toxic relationships and. Yes so I just want to get you guys perspective on that I mean. For one. Is this. Something to admire this type of aggression passion, coming from one party towards the other is jealously a good thing. Is this the new norm? Is this the woman? On WanNa to Defend Dreyer and obviously acknowledged the fact that she did apologize, but before we even jump into that I, want to say how disappointed I was to kind of see that that clip kind of surface where we haven't been doing this podcast thing too long ourselves, but the I thought I had and I remember shooting. Not You guys. When I saw come on twitter was that the host of that show new withdrew his step in when she said it a allowed her double down. They didn't try to get her to pull it back and I think they said something about this. This is going to go viral, so they knew what they were setting themselves up to do. And then they put that clip out ultimately knowing that it was going to drive clicks attention for them, but not really having the compassion for a person that you know maybe took a misstep them what they were saying or maybe said the wrong thing, and didn't realize the moment how they were saying so I just want to kind of come down on them for a moment for really like not having the compassion for people right, and if you invite somebody on the show, surely anyone that comes. Comes on the real for real podcast. Just know that we you know. We kind of take those conversations seriously, and we want people to be honest, but we're not trying to make anyone look bad so shame on them for for knowing that was going to do for Dreyer and in driving out. Anyway, you know Gotcha moments over here. They definitely knew what they were doing in setting her up. And did he give her a chance to dial it back, but you know that was. Andrea she was. She was hanging out talking shit like a lot of people do amongst friends, but you know. Know sometimes people forget that they're actually celebrities, and that their message gets out to a wider audience. Trevor I wholeheartedly agree with what you're saying. I also think that you know trying to get your on the podcast and and that works there would be. You know that wouldn't be a bad thing over here, but yeah, it's kind of like. Speak to just overall question so I know. We talked a lot about how people not loved in all kinds of different ways right, and there's no true like blueprint for how to be loved fall in love. Have love all that like there aren't blueprints. But will we can. All kind of agree on is that there's really no space for any kind of relationship for you to mistreat someone in the win. Which Tori lanes might have allegedly done so right? There's really no reason for you to everything. K. after shoot, my woman right and I know for drill to like. Kind of halfheartedly saying that she was joking about it. It just didn't come across that way of and although I. Do I actively think like Oh like she likes that or anything like that? Were you know there's people in the world who who tracked back like could there be sure but most people when they're with their person supposed to be a safe place, and no one is taking you know. Like if our relationship pops off this way I think there's an it's. Are we supposed about say? We should add a woman in for this discussion and we thought about kind of Abinet that lead this conversation, because we are speaking from one side, and it may not be representative of the full experience brought. Say That there is some truth in what she was getting at that. There are some women that love a man that takes charge. That WanNa feel protected that WANNA. Feel that their. Their man is crazy about them. And there is a fine line between what that represents in fantasy, and what a life can be in a controlling dominating aggressive and abusive relationship so like she was obviously not dancing on the right side of that line, but like what I think, her detention was was was fair one and like again. She's not alone and just say like hey. I just WanNa man this crazy about me. Because a lot of women do have that aspiration in relationships. I think we're spending a good amount of time talking about you know the woman's perspective on on why they may track that type of person to do what they want I. I definitely gotTa. Just you know, condemn Dash Tory lanes letter. He was playing around what it was done by accident I really don't think it was done on purpose, but regardless of which you know, you don't put a woman in that type of situation where you have a gun in your discharging it and is in you're not. Not In the process of protecting either her or their loved ones, so there's really no excuse for that and I think that tour lanes career might pay a big price on APP with that being said to speak to drain his point about attracting that type Bouba. Passion because everyone wants a passionate relationship that that bobby and Whitney type love you also the same token here a lot of women on on twitter and social media on sharing about how guys aren't providing offering real love to to and. I would just put a challenge out there. I truly believe that there is. A, gang of good guys out there, but those guys are the guys that you call squares. These guys that you call l. said the ones that talk white. The ones that you haven't paid any attention to. So. To kind of capitalize what Trevor was saying earlier? Is that. With the type of crazy passion that you have that type of aggression that would be to protect you. Aggression? Sometimes can't be channel, so you might get that aggression on a platform that you don't bargain for. Also. I don't WanNa short shame, but like toilet is what like five three and there is that he could have that Napoleon complex like he's with a beautiful popular woman, and if that woman is not, you know giving him the attention I don't I didn't read up on the story I. Don't know what actually the alleged situation was, but if she's not bowing to what he feels like she should be doing that might be the result like shorter. Guys do have that complex sometimes of just like I have to overcompensate and. Be. Louder and I have to be more aggressive just to prove the I'm still a man, and he has a gun on him and I don't know why. He had a gun on him in that situation. That's the outlet so like to your point. He didn't channel that energy in the right way, but the clearly could have been some other things going on which led him to kind of act in the way that he did for the record I just wanted a announcement that all three hosts on four zero for row podcast over six feet tall. Jeff is definitely around guys on friends so. Splendor. Of Grand just that disclaimer after trevor tried to not short shame. Tori lanes, but Clare Six foot short shoe. Still shorts human. Thing so like. Going back to Jeff was saying around. Balti guys were saying around like the protection of? Women and how kind of hold them in a different esteem like so, if for is lanes, if someone who's actively walking around with a gun right and maybe there are others who do that. If you are in a relationship. The idea of protection should be protection of yourself in protection of your partner right so in there. There should really be very little space for me to say. Hey, will I can also use this on my partner and I do think that although yesterday there is this perception of the almost like with was alluding to the the last. The Nice guys finish last thing there. There are plenty of men in the world that can can do both can still provide for you and still take care of you and don't have to necessarily rough you up or do anything that's going to be. That can fall in like the physical accosting kind of love that people think might be appropriate might be a way in which demonstrate love, and you gotta get on top of these gentlemen. At the right moment you can't wait into your already. Have a couple children and got you know got through your stage dating the bad boys, and now these guys are deep into careers, and you figure that you can you know. Finally grabbed them the this pointed I move on, so I mean he's got to work. Both ways ISA messed up Lawrence. You know, be out there and be to free. You know like sometimes you don't things happened and do like the one in Lawrence pushes and maybe taking the left when you thought he was going to go, take a right, or and so two to any of the single women who might be a stumbling upon this podcast. And wondering why your relationships haven't worked out the way that you might have hoped in return levels by by age. At this point you know, go go, Holler, give a chance to that guy that was trying to let you in the break room at worker trying to catch your attention, you know when you walk to the office or whatever else it might have been that guy glossing bar, because at one point, I know that type of guy glowed up as they say. Say and I'm not I'm not on the market anymore. Neither neither of us are, but we can relate to those guys man so I've been that Nice Guy and that nice guy is going to treat you right in the long run, so take a word of advice to you know pay attention to the folks that are that are doing right by you and not just fit into a mold of what what you think you want. Yes, twenty guys out there and. Start are you'll meet them at Barnes and noble or whole foods, not in the club Andrea? You're more than welcome to come through. You have three men over here. That would protect you. Shameless. Plug the doors open for Dreyer. We are all happily devoted men so this is strictly a business proposition. Dear. Yes Blackman do not cheat, but yeah man speaking of relationships and tout things can go awry. Stuff with Kim and Kanye man what the hell is happening over there? This is just your classic example of mental illness. Going on check because it definitely blurs the line on being a celebrity and keeping some things in house, and you know even though we all like to hear t as they would say, somebody information that got out at that. Presidential rallied at Connie drew in South Carolina. was none of our business really wasn't. And, to be honest with you. I feel bad for Kim Kardashian. I think that she gets a bad rap. But while she's been with kind, Yeh, I think that she's been nothing. Than what? You wouldn't want your wife to be supportive. Always seen a bigger picture. And always bringing it back to what release at hand? Her Dane reputation was charged slander by her husband. Throughout the week. More facts came out that some acquisitions that condie put towards Kim had no basis in it. And yet. She still down for her husband. So I. Think Anybody who can take pause. In and the resolved to not feed into retaliation. Insane listen. This is the situation that we're dealing with. We're dealing with somebody with mental illness. He's a genius, but he's also complicated. And even though he might be coming out in public, I'm not going to return at energy I support him. We all need to just for. An their she signed it at as Kim Kardashian. Less just reminding us. Regardless of what you think is happening. This is home for better or for worse to death. Do US part at least ask what we think are this least. That's what she's projecting and I certainly appreciate that as someone being in a marriage fact that you know even winds. One of us are kind of like fallen off the wagon. You got one person still looking to drive the car it keep it. It on track and props to her on that I. Think I'm a big proponent of taking care of home. First right employing the way of life that you know what happens in our house stays in our house and I'm sure that's the way that Kim would probably have liked that to kind of occur despite the fact that she's on all these reality shows, and always in the media and always kind of been in public I. You've never really heard spill. Speak ill about. And then he kind of brings us to their front door with his tirades driven by. You know who knows what's going on in this house or in his head, but she kind of stood up and took one for the team, and really trying to say like. Hey, like we're working on something and we would appreciate you guys compassion as we worked. Figure it out in. That takes a lot of resolve to stand up and do I would say yes. Props Clint Kim as she has been open about this in the entire time. By right and what happens is when you're bipolar. You have a bunch of just like boot swings right so sometimes you're sky high, and sometimes they're super load and a lot of times. What what's happening? Is You know like he can be like manic stages so in the super I phase like he's manic, and his thoughts are racing, and it might not make sense to us. Would it make sense to him? And like what he sees them what he's sharing his truth the way he sees it, but might not be the. The truth based in reality and being with someone that has to be difficult right trying to build a family with someone around that is difficult and is an impossible absolutely not I do think that with Conde. Sometimes Conde is really like front and center, and giving away more than he really needs to, and unfortunately like for him. It's something that he just can't control. He has orients impulse control. Why does he have poor impulse control because he's mentally ill and for us who have to kind of see this play out? Of what should wanted appearing on a lot more things that we want, but Jeff I know you kind of want to jump in and go right ahead. Yeah, no I. Mean you definitely spoke about just impulses? I mean we see evidence of that sense him call. George Bush during Hurricane Katrina. Him Jumping on the base which I'm totally cool with by the way you know. I think he put. You could argue like from the very beginning I. Mean really the story with. The very beginning as being a producer was he was like in the offices I. Put me on the on the on a rap beyond right. You're like like umbrella. I don't know so. That was how Jay z did to him, so he knows the Kanye now Kanye. Now that we know clearly bipolar, but we don't know what we were seeing before. Was that yes? Oh! Jesus, so my question to you too, is clear you know and he's admitted. His interview with David Letterman dead. He deals with mental illness. It's been confirmed by his wife and several people around him in his straight many relationships. But how much of this can you talk to him? Dean mentally ill versus him just being a Dick because. There is plenty of people with mental illness. You can say that Robin Williams was mentally ill. He took his own life, but he was a nice guy, and because of he was a nationally a nice guy. He explained being a nice guy. I would think that. Mental illness would add many times. Amplify a behavior. That's already there. And they painted you to how much this behavior is over of him being. Mentally ill and that's what we're seeing or the him. Just being entitled Radin. A Dick, I think evolved over time the balance of the to answer that question. I remember back when I was in college. I mean I I'll say Connie was my favorite rapper for a great deal of of his career, and I remember getting the CDs at the time, and you go get CDs and I was in college and grabbing at the bookstore, whatever and then I, actually had the fortunate experience of like I was promoted Party School. School in Hey Kayak come and perform at one of the parties I. Think like late registration at just dropped so I was a big advocate for him, not only musically, but for what he stood for, because he kind of came out on this platform of being a little different Polo shirts in the knapsacks, and all that stuff, and what was perceived often as arrogance I took as like a real kind of stand up attitude of like. Feeling like someone who who people always counted you outright. So in that case, you need a little bit of that overconfidence to kind of come so many people trying to push you down and try to now open those doors for you, but over time. Like now you're at that level. Right like you don't need to pick a fight with Jordan about you know to easy just jumping over job. You don't need to pick a fight with Taylor swift on for beyonce's defense or whatever he was making that up. You don't need to. Go Out and talk about Harriet Tubman not freeing slaves and slavery, being choice, and all this other nonsense he was going on like you don't need to kind of go into those lanes, so I think at some point it was just you know Kaya. Jackass is Barack said, but now evolved into something more, but to me. They're still not an excuse, so that says that I don't condone the condie's behavior or anything like that I. do think that unfortunately for Kanye. Illness basically his brain is physically telling him to do things right so unfortunately. What the things that he's doing and saying wind up being offensive is hell to us and others, but I it doesn't necessarily excuse that behavior all, but I do know that. Unfortunately you know going back to before Kannada impulse control, so like whatever these things in the moment is what he's going to say. and it's almost akin to sometimes when kids are learning to speak, it might say inappropriate things at inappropriate times, and you kind of have to like move on and get on and and and try to show them right and wrong for water for him to. Operate in society and you know again. I'm not a pro drug, advocate or anything like that, but if you're bipolar, really the only way you can be treated by you taking medication and seeing someone has recommended adding some kind of psychotherapy. Right like so as not doing those things like there's very little that he. Will tell him not to do like in of like anytime. He feels that he has gone. He has to express it and county as an adult man. He's a grown person, so he has to like consent through treatment. If you don't consent, there's really nothing you can do, and that's why like going back to what we were talking about earlier like have to praise Kenmore, gashing, appraise any kind of like wife or partner, whatever who still trying to like, hold their person down when person might say some crazy off the things that you might not necessarily subscribe to I think one of the things that we overlooked was I guess. Guess from my perspective is far seeing the the speed of how his behavior greatly changed, that was around the time of two thousand and seven were he lost his mother and his mother, being a great woman educator Dr. Don to West the nature of our I believe was after an elective surgery. I would say that. And I think the correlation between perhaps the reason why she elected to get that kind of surgery might have been a result of fame the fact that she was raided in input in front camera more, she may have been more conscious of looks dust, resulting to the procedure that ultimately end up taking her life. That happened right around its aunt. Connie was a young man. Thirty you know in. The difference between someone like Kanye West saying your average person is that the feelings that we get the chance to channel when and deal with? They do it in the public eye. Like deter bus have met Kanye West, but we all have an opinion on it. But the fact of matter is, is that most people in normal situations? If they found that I wanted her coworkers. We're talking about them. It might ruin their muff. But yet you have President Obama calling the most powerful man in the world, calling him a jackass. You know I think that really hurt him. You know being from Chicago I. Think the fact that everyone feels they know who he is and then. The timing who I think, his behavior may have reached that point of no return. There has been still a stigma associated with black man. Going to therapy. I appreciate it in command Charlemagne to God for promoting being a black man therapy. N. is speaking about his issues with exam. because. It's something that many black men deal with I. Mean How could you not being black in America like we all have some type of form of PTSD of Ford and just deal with a lot of different trauma and a Lotta Times. We often suppress it, we. Suppress it with religious beliefs and we know we go to church. We self medicate, or would you stink that therapies for pussies? Full transparency I go to therapy for the last three years. It might think why not I mean near Times where I was extremely low I. Don't know if I was coming here. Going I felt really bad about life in my situations that a wife and I were going through collectively not as a couple, but through some of the challenges we went through. And it took on US But, because therapy on better because of it, I'm able to present the best version of myself to the world and I can't tell you that if I hadn't gotten. These feelings checked that I wouldn't be like Oh. Kanye West are far worse. It even Robin Williams. So my question to you is what do you guys feel about like where? The stigma of black men, black people, but black men, especially in mental health is right now with the public think. Someone like Charlemagne. The God has made it. Calms Ation for people, not that these conversations were always happening in our communities, I think that for a long time, people have been talking about this and know people have mentioned things like you know being a black man or person of color, or you know a black woman like our lives are almost essentially built on my trauma, beginning from coming out of the womb, like just the way in which like the world kind of like reacts in response to us so I do think that the Movement for us to get out is like a great. Great thing. It's actually a beautiful thing because I do think that similar to how people you know, every six months might get a physical speaking to a better perceptive one, once in a while or whomever right that can be greatly beneficial to you to your mental health, which is probably also be the next to your physical. All those things are kind of interconnected to getting. All those things checked out are super important in definitely like allow you to take care of yourself, so that editor allows you to take care of others because for real. Real like if you're not doing the things that you need for you like you are no good for anyone else. And unfortunately a lot of people kind of move without kind of like thinking or you know moved in the sense that were almost like robots right like like right I do this because I'm supposed to be going to their Chris weekly biweekly monthly. Whatever it is for you with allows you to do is give you the hour. We think about yourself and you treat yourself the chance to vet and you know I think some people. People think Oh have friends for that or you know I have someone at the church. Sure those things are important, too, but you know what trained professional helps a lot, as well is definitely an unfair stigma, but I think it's a great time kind of had stigma kind of fade, because there are so many people on so many larger platforms, taking a stand, being transparent and honest about what they're dealing with in kind of how they're. They're working to better themselves. I feel like this is kinda faded a little bit, but I am speaking. Second or third hand if you will because I've never personally kind of taken a step to kind of go into. Any sort of of Personally, but there was at least one time, and as we're having this conversation is is the first time I'm Kinda. Like remembering this. I might have turn allies it or whatever, for whatever reason, but I remember I was living in late at the time, and I was between jobs I was getting ready to move and had a baby on the way it was the first time I ever felt like. I didn't have it all together, and I didn't know what my next move is going to be an know how I was going to provide, but I kinda just knew it was on me. Figure it out and it was the first time I was like I probably need to talk to somebody about it and I remember trying to Google. Black therapist specifically, because it was like it felt like something that only a black man would understand me talking about because like you know you have the weight of just like Fatherhood, but then you have the kind of the trauma that allows us grow up with like, maybe without our fathers with like you know strained relationships with our fathers in like trying to kind of. Families? You have that in the of the finances. You just had the idea like career and all that kind of stuff together and I couldn't find one, and this was a few years ago so I never actually got a chance to kind of sit down and have that conversation. Luckily, since then things worked out, and I've been okay, but like I think that's kind of a testament to how the conversation and the acceptance has kind of grown over time. Time because you just a few years ago now there's like established platforms like specifically for black therapist, and there's instagram's and websites other stuff to make it a lot easier to find. And at that time it wasn't as readily available at all I definitely think we're making headway and eliminated the stigma, but still think we have a long way to go and a more recent example where I can tie in blackness and mental health is the epidemic of these. What we like to believe to be or what we believe to be. Racial is hanging a black men throughout the country. There's been a brutal history of lynching. A black men. especially black people, black men drought, the history of the United States of America. And so it was recently revealed that one of these young men who was getting a lot of attention on social media for being found Lynch from a tree. Evidence was revealed through his family, and through notes that the young man took his life. and. Many people just didn't invite. They said it was fake news, but. My thing is that. Why is it so far fetched that now? It's I'm not naive to believe that black men aren't being lynched I. Know that to be true that are targeted are being chased hunt to kidnap organs harvested. Whatever you know, we have been targeted, but with the same. Type of aggressiveness that we are quick to thinking that direction, you also have to be open to believe that there may have been other underlining issues that you know with all the shit that goes on in America. Why is it not plausible debt is I? May taking your life being in America for one is tough in being black in America being black on this planet is especially up and we actually have. Lower suicide rates in many other ethnic groups is a testament to our raw resilience and the way that we are brought up. You can just have all different type of theories on why we're as resilient as we are. But since we take on so much. Why is it the fact that? Black people would think about suicide or killing themselves so. That's just one thing. I I wanNA just bring up. Is that you know it's not? Unplowable that the person dad is having issues might be on a break, and we have to do our job to either direct people towards Health Elihu stigma, and if you are one of those who actually goes to therapy and talk your issues with the therapist, their outlets out there and I think we should more openly talk about it, so people don't feel so embarrassed about going because like I did I'm pretty cool guy. I'm relatively happy. Enough B but I go to therapy I. Don't think about taking my life, but it helps me be a better version. Myself and I'm a better husband, a better son and a better friend, a better professional, because of the fact that I go to therapy. Thank you for that. Jeff. I think that all those things are true by yourself and you know I'm glad that you're willing to be open enough to seek out that support is absolutely nothing wrong with that and even to speak to. Like I'm sorry that you weren't able to find what you're looking for. I. Think what has happened in like you have mentioned like now. There are more groups now. This groups that are specifically targeted towards being black therapists and being able to get some black clientele, and you know here in the real, the forever podcast like we're definitely open to inviting player on the show to be able to talk about some of these. Things that people go through and think about need support on ener all normal your story. Trevor is very normal. You about to be a new father and you trying to figure that out, and you also just figure out life, and you know how common that his people people are constantly on the cigarette lights, and trying to like adapt to the things around them, and whatever, and unfortunately what we feel we have to do is act as if everything is okay, and again like alluded to before the thing about therapy and being connected, and although I'm someone that has ever gone through every. To anyone in that way doesn't mean that I wouldn't be or won't be because for me like I. Totally think that it's up the necessary like I've I've. Before like hey? I'm still grieving the loss of a parent and. That's something that are probably will eventually need to speak to someone about, but you know I think that finding someone that looks like us. Super Important in that and I think that's a good first step, Jeff. You kind of wanted to jump in. There's not that many black male therapist, but there's definitely black woman therapists and my Eric is a black woman. She's great. I would love to refer her, but I ever fertilizer different. AARP is still beneficial. You see the growth in people in a one person that I know for sure has been through a ton of therapy and has a chance to rely on bit on a weekly basis is that of? HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION IR? Mike Tyson guys trevor. I know you're excited about this. What's going on Mike Tyson? We see them a lot in the news recently, what's happening? Well mice week making his way back man and a wish. I could say I was excited to see it, but Mike is someone who I grew up watching and I remember being like five six years old, going over that getting together with everybody at the House will fight parties I didn't know what was going on, but I remember that they. They ended quick. People were pissed. They pay for that pay per view. That was kind of spectacle of getting ready to see my Tyson. You know kind of fast forward thirty years later you know Mike's GonNa. He's been through well-documented ups and downs. You know he kinda went to jail. He lost a child he's been in and out of drug CONISTON. He's you know had different experiences with many women positive and negative got the hangover things so like he's kind of been on the wildest roller coaster. Coaster of anyone I can, even that comes to mind. I. Don't think anyone's life's ups and downs matches and say that like I'm really sad. See what Jamie Fox does with that Bio pic? They're working on He's McConnell going around on, but that's today. Mice got a podcast minute. shallots boxing love it, and he's been in Jim putting up instagram video, showing that he still he still looking dangerous. Yeah, and with that people have been getting excited like Oh, man Mike is still got it let. Let me tell you something I've sat across the table from him and looked him in the I. I don't know that he ever lost it, but it's a different thing in the gym versus in the ring, and now as we just announced the September he stepping into the ring with captain, Hook or Jones Junior, which I think about that Mike is like in his mid fifties. If if I'm not an you guys kink directly from wrong. If I'm not taken Mike's Fifty, four Roy Jones fifty one yeah. So first things first is on Blanton Exhibition on glad that it's eight rounds. I'm hoping that both these men are kind to each other right and are willing to carry each other for eight rounds. Because what I don't want to see is two guys that like you know. I'm a big boxing fan as well two guys that I loved in the door beating the. The hell out of each other in their mid fifty s when all they're only doing it for what maybe some might, and you know on top of all the well-publicized stuff that that Trevor alluded to in the life of Mike Tyson, one of those things was bankruptcy and what will? We would hate to think that he's doing this because he needs the money. It is good to see somebody instagram. Stuff were Michael. Mike Michael where Mike Is. Is definitely going into like prime shape and that's. Exciting I mean that was one image that had him in November of twenty nineteen, and then one in May and it was like he looked like a brand. New Person was cool to see that, but in terms of being excited for to watch. Like two fifty year, old men men scrap. Way Past their prime like I'll watch it, but really like I'm just praying. No one gets hurt. Sane and I spent a long time going on about Mike Ban, but I don't WanNa Diminish Roy. I WanNa make sure that people if you haven't been a boxing fan, understand that Roy's no slouch is absolutely capable of taking my head off, though to sands, point I hope that's not how it goes for me. I grew up while I grew up at fight parties watching Mike like Roy was the guy that I personally grew up. Watching like Roy was the guy that emulated if I was shadowboxing, Roy was the guy and he was putting out. Music videos must for. y'All must've forgot you know like the whole body head thing stopping Virgil Hill with a body shot. Roy Was it man and I don't think he gets his just due in the legacy of boxing. People talk about the greatest boxes ever like he's not brought up in that conversation, and that's not fair to him. For what he did like. Roy was the Mike Vick of that you know of his sport. You know kind like transcending the way that he was kind of doing those. Chicken punches imitate stuff and yet hand behind his back all sorts of stuff that he was doing no one else was doing that and he kind of brought a lot of people into the sport, so i WanNa make sure that we put some respect on his name, and while we kind leading with Mike, and this discussion Roy's no slouch and can absolutely put work in that ring. Well, the reason why? People are excited about Roy. Coming back is because Roy has been back I mean he's been active taking real fights. He's been taking real else. Mike. Last fought when he was thirty nine years old I believe Kevin Mcbride in two thousand five. So, this is a true comeback fight for Mike Tyson and this is Roy. Actually more active than maybe like Mike Perez, he's like as active as some active fighters right now, and I love Roy to man I mean I my Stena. Roy Fight mine memory was when he fought. James Toney and James Toney was. Fight and Roy just showed us that he was an all time. Great from that fight in my opinion, the most athletic person to ever fight and that's probably the reason. Why started taking loss is because we don't want. The athleticism faded away. Reflexes lost itself, and definitely started getting hit in hurt, but just to kind of bring people up to speed about Roy. Jones junior if he would have had retired after forty fights. You would be talking about Roy. Roy Moore Junior, being the TV It'd be Roy Jones Junior. He's just a guy who played a little bit to law, and that's ultimately what hurt his his legacy i. mean if he retired right before that in Tokyo Tara fight. You literally would be talking about Roy Jones being are being a top five boxer of all time and for me. He's still in top upset saw. Yeah, no one at for again for the folks really don't follow boxing like. And Floyd were in their prime at the same time in the ninety s and Roy was the number one pound for pound fighter, and like I said I think a lot of people forget how great he was. How Floyd didn't Kinda come to and so roy? Sorry, fade into stepping away so. You know I love that guy like these. The Ken Griffey for me like again he was the guy idolized growing up and knows fortunate enough to kind of. Get to spend some time with as an adult, but I don't WanNa. See Him fight anymore as happy as I. Am for them to Kinda. Come back in this fight with the car would like Nate Robinson and Jake Paul. I'm excited for people to to discover boxing to follow the sport, but I wish it wasn't like this. I wish that the legends that we've grown. Grown to love and growing fond of didn't have to put on his spectacle to to get a couple of dollars. Who Do we got you know? We got iron Mike. We got Captain Hook. You know it's eight round exhibition. WHO's GonNa Win This Day man at the tugging on my heartstrings over here, man, the guy. I really don't know you gotTa pick somebody saying. You got damn good food is your heart before. I'd say going back to. Talk About leftism and what Roy Jones Junior was. Probably still has a little bit of I. Probably go wrong aid. Especially, if if what I'm saying is these guys are gonna be kind to each other, not killing right. I do think if we're tries to show a little bit. The last thing that ever goes on the fighter's punching power right so Tyson could put them down in. GonNa go Roy Jones Junior, and it's probably going to be really close five rounds to threes. Something like that. Won't be stunned if my took him out. This is my. SNOOP DOGG and DM, versus battle right here. Man I'm really just hope been that everyone makes it home safe I. Want to enjoy the show. I WanNa rock all night, and just see some good performances, but I mean if I had to pick somebody I would favor roy mainly just because he's been in a ring like that muscle memory. Something that you can't. Underestimate and loy, even though he's not been the royal of the past, just kind of stay in Jim, a little bit more active. He's been training fighters boxing himself overseas Mike for as much as he's been looking good on instagram Hughes that was a him or was it. I think it was right that saying just picked a plan to to get punched. Punched in the face. Exactly that was Mike's own sane, and for as good as he's been looking on Instagram, and I'm sure to promote as a hype it up. Mike is going to. He's not for somebody like Roy, even an old roy so mobile for a good show, but if I got to pick someone up, I'm assuming that at Roy's hang it. For me, a heart says bike. Mayes says Roy. And here's what I think's going to happen. I think it's not going into the knockout things. Go all eight rounds. I think that mice GonNa look very impressive for the first two rounds. Wars going to move, it's going to stick and move and I alternate. He probably win rounds three to seven clean. It might comes on strong. What would be the all? He has around eight. We know ending with them hugging, encouraging one another to the last minute and a half of the fight, so I got it five rows to three Roy Jones but I think that's the safe way to go. I I thought about it. I thought that Mike. My actually get out of here, but when I thought about it more reason why. Why I thought it to be that way is because of the way classes at Roy has fought. You know Roy has been natural, middleweight, super middleweight light heavyweight. He may have fought a cruise more recently and definitely took that one or two fights at heavyweight, but now roy collie walks around around fifteen so him and Mike Tyson, of probably exactly the same size. Roy Probably having a little bit better reach so it's not as if Mike is fighting off middleweight version of Roy Jones junior fighting Rome in someone who's been very comfortable. Weight for probably at least a decade now, so that being said I don't think anyone. Ashley Nazi showed her out I. think that Roy is going to move a little bit more. Speed lease and they'll jabs way to be close victory. Philip who's taking the easy way out on ease with or picking the same guy so I'm going to ask a question about that co main event now. This is where it gets tricky Komo. Jake, Paul versus Nate Robinson. React Day Robison. He's a beast. He's good at everything I mean. This is a guy who won to dunk. Contest needs what I five foot three. I, five. Nine, five nine, so. It looks. When. He's playing NBA player, so he's not even really all that short I mean he's like the average size of the average American male on top of the fact that he's a natural athlete fact that he's probably training. They want to pick it up. Much faster. Dan was a jake. Paul One Paul Brothers. Yeah, he. He's GonNa wash borough. It's either going to be closed. He's GonNa get out of here three rounds. Honestly I think he could fight both of them at the same time and probably win both both the Paul Brothers, so yeah I don't really does much competition. There may Robinson although boxing is not his one true natural sport. He's still an athlete. He still if you know anything about athletes, no matter what they always have one other gear that they can hit that. None of us can ever touch because we've all been there. We put in college and like the ball to right, and then you played someone who actually belongs on the college team like Oh. Oh Shit! There's something else that you can do that. I don't got. Yup, that's that's GONNA BE! I'm going to get the train here. Man I again based on the fact that Jake Paul actually been in the ring for a couple of exhibition fights. He like Si- or some. I'm not watching them, but I know another youtuber yet. I know dazzling. They pump up. How many youtube views got for the Jake Paul Fight? So Kudos to them, and and what they're doing with that, but if James Been Boxing for years, which I think has been the case man I gotta go man, nate for his as super duper athlete athletic, as he's been is a different thing, laced those gloves. Men Are not going to happen there, but I do know I'll be tuned in. September twelfth so five-party at the crib. SOME WE'LL GET A. Party that's up? Oh now. I forgot the virtual version. My bad I totally forgot. Dame Yeah Man Oh shit, shoutout to you before willing to. Jump out on a limb and host us. For these fighting events, but I'm speaking shot outside. I definitely want to shout out what I seem to be able to the past week, and that's been to me woman, taking the high road as we spoke about earlier in this episode Kim. Kardashian I'm saying to her vows for better or for worse, not eating into tic TAC being the adult in a room. Room in holding down her husband. I'm signing Golf S. Kim Kardashian West I think that speaks volumes. I think that she gets a bad rap. I think she's doing a great amount in in prison, reform and criminal justice reform, which very dear to my heart, so props to Kim Kardashian West for taking the high road and ultimately just play in our cars, right. And then the next person would be rising star now. We're GONNA. Say a rising star me. She's already a certified star on. People were talking about her. She probably be a VP. Pick for Biden if she was age on the nets. AOC Alexander. Cossio Cortez for those who don't know. She allegedly allegedly was verbally abused by one of her Congress colleagues right and legislative representative Ted you'll Ho a Florida after maybe a conversation or against the partying. A exchange called her a fucking bitch. Now I. Don't know how we got to this point. It might be forty five, just creating a culture where people feel more boating. It could be just the fact that with. The rise of toxic masculinity that way men go about conducting themselves towards women. It's just gotten out of control. So. Why wouldn't you say is that you know she just due to his level, she'd been call. A name didn't call him any derogatory terms or names, and she kept a Classy, and she addressed it, and she did not forgive him even with her, not forgiving him I still believe this. She took the high road. She's playing her cards right. I salute her for not only that moment put also what she's doing and the fact that she's. Abode and Brave I want to call her a politician Bush activists. That has a title, so shout LLC. All your stances, but I really liked what you're doing. How you coming? Yeah, definitely the shout to her, because I mean ultimately when this man had the opportunity to really apologize, he didn't he talk around it? He then said hey like. Married for forty five years, and I also have two daughters, so my respect. Women Blah Blah, but never actually said sorry. This was disrespectful. I need to work on this. This was inappropriate state. Any of that and for AOL see to go earned. Be like listen I. Don't need the apology. Really apologize to be like. Listen I'm willing to and actually to your younger than your youngest daughter. Right so like when you save these things you're making it. It okay for anybody to save defines kinds things to your wife to your mother to your daughter's like. That's what you're inviting so when you don't really do anything that's going to work towards the betterment of you because everyone has a bad moment kind of paraphrasing for her, like everyone does have a bad moment, and like if you're not gonNA, provide your own road to redemption. Then I'm not going to do that for you so definitely a big. Shot to see for holding it down and more importantly for representative Bronx everywhere she goes, she's Definitely. Send a model example, and it's a shame that folks are. The House floor was trying to tear down every chance eight. Get I wasn't to shout out to Avery Francis. Not met this woman directly, but she's been doing something really dope on instagram. And just highlighting those open enough to have conversations through like little means and stuff like one that she posted recently was the things to say to a black man, which especially resonated with me. 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Roy Jones Jr, Chris Eubank Jr., Official Gennady Golovkin, Canelo & Jermall Charlo Wish List

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1:38:52 hr | 6 months ago

Roy Jones Jr, Chris Eubank Jr., Official Gennady Golovkin, Canelo & Jermall Charlo Wish List

"Acids intended for mature audiences. The views and opinions expressed are those of the panelists and do not reflect in any way. Those are the podcast partners. Sponsors or affiliates. Enjoy this is Michael Buffer. And you're listening to the voice of the people. Let's get ready for boxing voice. Stay DADDY DAHL DOT COM PRODUCTION. GonNa pay you care talk. The wives inflatable avital of working with. Everybody likes me houses down Russian. A big deal deliver if you're fighting trump okay. Don't on the table entertaining. Migraine DOT COM Morning T. V. You WELCOME BACK. Ladies and gentlemen to another Friday morning with the box and voice radio show got one of fellow me on from Dior. Elvis Rodriguez be on the show. Nine thirty eight am plus. We're going to be talking out. Chris eubank his merger with Roy Jones. Now being official and his wishlist. If this is something you're interested in well then you know the number to call in is one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time voice your opinion right here on the Voice of the People Hotline Bang Jamaal Charles. Oh the naughty. Galore skin. Gone Nello Alvarez in even in Who Else Jamal Challah? He yeah that's his Hitless so let me out to own. Why should I say? I don't even know Chapman. Never off heath. No Alexander never been. Both cities may both cities nor Elizabeth. All over the place but if you got a cup of coffee ready. Welcome to the morning show and if you're across the pond get that cup of tea if that's what your fancy. Yeah Man. Elvis Rodriguez don't know too much bottom. You got all souped up. I know he's your pies are so maybe it'll take tell me a little bit more bottom 'cause I'm not too hip on him And Yeah Man Roy Jones junior man doing a good job. court in You know you bank as far as being a trainer and you know it's exciting to see a him learn so much from a guy like Roy. 'cause you know he's an athlete you bank. That is is incredible athlete. So you know. Learning some of those wrinkles and maybe adapting to his own stock could could could mean a lot could result in a very very good thing in maybe in the new and improved fighter in in in. And who knows maybe maybe now we'll start to believe a little bit more. Yeah I mean look man. You can't go wrong with Roy Jones in your corner and and that's Kinda why I wanted to discuss it because I it is now official You know according to Chris eubank junior. They seem to be in a long term relationship. He's definitely content with the services of Roy And it says here When accessed by I fell on whether you know he will be a permanent figuring in his training camp. He being Roy Jones Junior and I quote. He says that's what it's looking like. Yeah I mean this guy's a genius man like he really is. I'm actually upset that I only met him now. You know if I would have met them in my twenties instead of my thirties. You know it would have been crazy. But I've got them now. I'm still in my prom. I'm ready to learn and apply the things he's teaching. He's a genius. He's a master and one of the things that really stuck struck me. Once I started to get into the swing. Things out here is how hands on he is. I thought I'd go in there. Walk into the gym and Roy Jones. He's got all these guys here and hit the bag for five minutes. I didn't think he'd spend the time because he's Roy Jones Junior. He doesn't have to be doing this. You know I thought he had a whole thing going on and that he wouldn't spend much time but he's on me every single day for a few hours for the few hours that I am in the gym. He's on me the whole time. Giving me all this knowledge telling me everything. I need to know everything I need to do. He is a trainer in the truest sense of the word. More than I've ever experienced with anybody else. I'm learning a lot every week. You know he'll just say something or do something or show you something and I'll be like wow what I think of that. Or why haven't I been doing that? So Yeah I'm pretty sure me and Roy are going to be working together for for the foreseeable future and quote so that basically sets it in Stone Day are working together now Before I get your thoughts on his quote just factor in that he's been really able to benefit once covert hit. He relocated himself to the Pensacola camp of Roy Jones. So He's been with Roy two months. Now you know with a legend you know we talk about all the great things that are the come of Devon Haney. Because he's Lincoln with Floyd. Imagine what Chris. Eubank may look like after two months of isolation isolation. Because is there. Anyone go in Pensacola Florida. Is there any nightlife to speak of? It's nothing like Las Vegas. This is boot camp in. Its finace a love with Chris. Eubank is doing Yanni's according to what I what you read on. The court sees excited. You know he's excited about what he's receiving You know it just you know you you you and I have been through so many. Boxing gyms throughout the country we've seen in a fighters and different relationships but To say that it's just to say that you know we we Kinda consol when something's going right and this looks like is going right and you know the fact that the Roy Jones is not just telling you we know those guys you know you're out there hit the bag you know go hit the bag and and that's it and you don't get too much but when you get the coach who sit in the ring with you talking to you too in the moves letting you do the move correct in you on the movie does it again. I mean he's on him. That's real teaching. That's real pupil-teacher type of relationship right then you could gain so much knowledge and you're right. He's down there in like a boot. Camp. What is he doing out there? He's throwing much all he got. The doors time to spend is hang out with Roy Jones. Junior and the teaching goes outside of the ring. Conversations experiences is so much good. That can come out of that. I'm actually excited about it. Yeah me too man. So he mentioned his Hitless on the PGA podcasts. Not Too long ago. We're talking days. And he spoke of not wanting a rematch with makor above. What's your thoughts on? That is that if I you wanted to see him redo since the outcome was what it was or. Are you like Chris Eubank? Who says he's not a name no need to give him a rematch. I I didn't see that fight You know so. I didn't I didn't I don't know exactly how it You know how to play it out. did did he. Did He lose that? That that No no it was a he got the win but you know it was one of those where they called the fight off. 'cause core above continue. I think You know you had some sort of medical issue. I don't know let's say. He pulled his shoulder something. I I don't know the exact detail but something happened. He wasn't able to continue in know. Chris got one of those technical to go into. Okay okay okay. See what's going up but who's really calling now. You know this fight. You know who wants to see you back man. Look Matter Ball. He gave Charles Oh look good fight and you know. He seems to be a test a test for for few few top guys right but he's not shining out there. He's not like appealing. He's not like somebody that I'm GONNA wake up to be excited about. And that's nothing to say that he's not a great fighter and he's he does some good things in in the ring is just to say that he doesn't have that type of push so you know you got a guy like Chris. Eubank junior who father was a you know a champ. He has all this. You know cloud already around them in fights you know sometimes you need a good dance partner to dance partner to make a good fights and when I mean by that is not just the fight itself but you know the the the actual lead up to the fight. All that stuff is important. You know what I'm saying the more I've been here with the box voice. The more I've learned about the business of boxing and all that stuff matters man. I mean I'm with him Bro. Like just to see him put on a better performance record of I'm not interested. You know His was less controversial than Charles. No-one's crying for Charlie to give him a rematch. Yes they move on. You know man get son sexy. Some sort of appealing name I don't know of Cour- of is that. Let Corbu what he needs to do to get back in position. He's Kinda in that. Derby and cheng-kuo row is gotTA fight who we can get get what he can and move along Like Chris he's just he's just not name. No one's going to be jumping up and down because Chris decided to give core above rematch so I'm I'm I'm cool with his decision. That being said Hitless is Gennady Gluskin Canelo Alvarez and Jamaal Charles in that order would he think about the order and are those names possible so he say Connecticut Love Can I right. That's that's prefer you know what man we after seeing? Jannati were you know Chanko and look in the way he looked. I can see why you bank junior would probably glow see him as a you know the lowest hanging fruit so to speak because you know he just. He didn't look good. You know at a at a out of the out of the you know out of the people in that list so Connecticut Lufkin though still people just to count them out. He's a hell of a punch German and it's sort of what the anti while the has you know it's always there so you know he he would have to be very careful fighting triple G and I don't know if we ever seen Eubank get tested or is Chen test. I never really seen him dropped. Maybe you know more about this. Deny never seen them drop that I remember so you know. I like to fight I. I like to get Eddie. I think Kinda puts Kanada can a position where you know after we see this bout. We'll know where he really stands. I think it'd be a great fight. You know it would be good for you bank to you know if you beat them. He conquers you know. He conquers one of the old lions. Or whatever. However you want to see if Canetti beats eubank than You know we still believe in ninety. I guess 'cause Too much belief buying an right now. Gennady could use a win like this before going into the canal. Oh five but I would assume that his people's in handlers would I would think it's dangerous. You know a Chris eubank and possibly derail Gennady especially at this age but let me get to some audio here and nothing impresses me. He hasn't for anybody of note and You know I saw a hell of a lot. We as it has. It has Eight four that I believe I would win Company. You mentioned the go now. He's speaking Charles Oh there. He's saying he wasn't impressed with Charles. Follow hasn't faced anybody and for those that don't know so you don't have to use Google by to a child who has beaten Julian Williams who once upon a time was unified and now he's beating Austin Trout. Who once upon a time was a middleweight champion? Two names at least two two champions Charles beat right or former James. I don't know that Chris eubank has be any world champions. Former world champions. I'm just being honest. Yeah I couldn't I couldn't mention a guy I mean. Yeah he's fought champions Jockey he he didn't be really really joe you know. And he didn't be own. George Groves Gail was ever a chance. You know what? That's his I former world champion but you know I mean. He did that after. Caleb true ax which upset James. The Gal you know and we talked about that before you bank always wanted together together. Always belittled them and said that his. I bill wasn't a real title. You can unify with that and then in old age gail face them. So it's up to you sort of credit. You WanNa give them for the win but you know to say that the only former world champion that you face was in two thousand. Nineteen is a bit sad. Yeah Man I think Everybody's everybody's brought brought through a little different. I think that Chris eubank For the most of this career I guess he's fought out there in in England and I guess is the push right. Push him over here to the states so he can start fighting more in states. Because you know this is where you're going to really get the No the cloud that you need and all that other stuff so you just getting up down here Ganic Guy Like Charlie. Charleoi to is a great fight. I think that You know not that there's better match up. I mean I don't want to throw triple g under the old man bus but like you know these guys are younger. I think it'd be a more competitive by and we wouldn't really make excuses for either. Either fighter you know felt like triple. G is always going to be that excusable. He was on his way out. Or there's always something to be said right but these two guys. They're both thirty out approximately the same major whatnot. I like that I like. I like shot out to cure embed. Su said I think it was caring beds but someone say yo he be artery brand way he was no. He was a former world champion. That one's even worse. Arthur a brand has been so far removed from where he used to be at. I mean when when you bang beat them. Arthur Abraham wasn't a champion wasn't considered to be a champion and was long. You know thought of as a guy that could not be a champion again. It was just a fight. It wasn't even like we weren't even excited over here that thing. I don't know maybe Germany or UK. It took place in. Oh probably a Frank Warren show not even an Eddie show you know very about untried man and drag. That fight might have been part of the super box and super series. Maybe I mean yeah. Andrei is a possibility but Andrea is with the other side of the street. You know people want to act like because Crawford said there is no other side of the street. That really mean something. There's literally another side in Chris's inordinate man. That sucks 'cause you know he's been having a lot of trouble making fights I mean. I know that he doesn't gain any titles for people out there. You know you gotta think of it like this Kristie already did business with with Eddie it didn't end well you know we'll get to that part of the Audio That being said you know A highly doubt that he's going to do some sort of co-promotion with at this point unless the fight is of the magnitude of a billy. Joe Maybe a canal. Oh Gennady but is he going to be willing or the powers that be going to be willing to Kokomo with Andre? We got about six minutes before we get our guests. Elvis Rodriguez he's going to be fighting. Boxing is back. He's fighting July fifteenth. I believe he's on top. He's on top rank car and he is signed top rank. So if you want to ask him a question you can do so by dropping. That in the acts Elvis Rodriguez a question of patriot. Only post I'm actually tweeting out the links. If you follow us on twitter you can use the link to follow the in and putting it right here. Now in the Youtube Live Chat Servian and live chat. You WanNa ask them a question who will be having on in a few minutes. You can do so So yeah let's get to this audio you WanNa go for a title. Is there anybody else in particular that you'd like to fight Somebody's gotTa belt here willing to fight them. I mean if you're GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA Austin by number why take would be would be well. It's a toss up between Kim Alvarez I wanted to find us and you know I was. I was literally a day or two away from some defy happening with me and Karl Rove and then it got taken away from me. I can give you Gilbert mighty high so that is the fight that I would That would love you know. I always was sad for him. I we really wanted that Fi. I never thought CAL could get a win over Ganapati and much rather dh Chris eubank at the time Chris wasn't you know a while he wasn't a threat right but it still served as I one of the best fights for Gennady at the time that would have been one of the better opponents regardless so I always wanted but skimming overcharged lows resume. Julian Williams was a former Champ Austin trout former Champ Bundy Ridge former champ and that is about it so I seen someone acce. How many former champs there you go now moving to Gennady Galumph C-can do you like that fight for Chris. Better than the for mentioned Jamaal Charles. He feels is in on his level and has in for anybody. I think Jamaal Charles is a better. I mean as hard core. I think I like Jamal. Better An a-plus man you know triple G. Man I I look as much as I want I want. I would like to see that fight. I think the better odds probably in that NAFF happening with which they're both on the same side right in also you know it's more Li- liable to happen than than working working across the street like you say it's not going to happen so I go with something. That's more closer to reality Jamaal Charles. They're both young too. I like it you know. There's not really too much excuse on that. There's no old man excuse to tied to it at anything like that and I think it's a great win for either guy even if you're Montreal's not gaining any title or anything like that from eubank. It's still an exciting fight. I think a lot of people get up and go see that fight. You know I mean I would go see Jamaal Charles. Oh but but I think that the Gennady fight is the bigger fight. I just don't think the zone put some in there. But when you talking about ninety you know I don't think there's even a question about his resume. James Gale back in Actually Not James that was Daniel Gill. Who WAS A TWO-TIME CHAMPION? Back in two thousand and fourteen you know That was probably Cosima was a former world champs. So He's been fighting former world champs not the best ones up until the later half of his career but nonetheless he's been proven himself for quite some time now but I would love to see Chris get this white. I think that his activity may proof. Were very exciting. Fight I mean Gennady at thirty eight Kenny. Even deal with Christie's output How would the team Gennady Handle Chris? Eubank senior at the press conferences. How are they going to handle the always openly spoken Roy Jones? I like it. I think it's a big enough fight for Ganapati the risk but I still think that the money that the lies in that can nullify won't allow him to take You know his opportunity here so the Hitless was Connecticut. Love can Jamal in Napa Auto. He Picking Mellow I. I mean that mean that tells you something right Everybody would have went for Cannetto. I yeah but I but I think he explained it. You Know He. He was so close to getting that. Gonad fight that he still wants it. That's what it is. Or He may not think he's ready for another. Yeah I mean either. Or that's a big that's a that's. I mean that's a nice list I mean what are the odds that he gets any of these three guys. You know what I'm saying. Who's WHO's who is he in any entitlement position where you know he he. He's like a mandatory or anything like that. Like how does he get this fire? This fight may what is your mom Charlotte. Now wasn't he talking about maybe a few more fights and then out the game or was that the brother well. I don't remember that few more fights out the game really. I mean they all want to retire. Young as what he they want to retire. Young you know someone else. What Twenty Six. I think it was Ryan Garcia said twenty six. So you know it's all a matter of what these it's all a matter. What the guys on. His list are doing right now. What what's in their plans causes as as much as you want those guys. These guys all got Situations that they have to comply with an quarter to their contracts triple. G HAS TO FIGHT CANNELLA RIGHT. One more time is that was that a something that was That's gotTa happen can say no. I mean canal. Oh absolutely say no. He's been saying. Jeez lineup defy sediment and now. We thought that everything was going to lead back to that. You know that third fight. Guess I was wrong but Yeah Chris eubank could see him Well if he doesn't get any of these guys I mean who can Kucan eubank come in with it? I still be okay with as far as An opponent I mean. His names are fine. It's up to our right. Like why did you give our percentage? He wasn't with our when he was fighting. Nick Blackwell and Arthur Abraham so you're gonNA GIVE AL percentage. He should be able to get you. You know The correct fight the one that you want at least the one that you want at least and and you know Gonad. He's a little bit difficult but that's why they got mall. Char low kind of consolation prize. So you're eubank look out Gennady Fi. Get me the canal and obviously you got to go into that conversation understanding that you know those are difficult to make but then it's like boom. Well here's Charlie. We couldn't make that but at least we got Charlie for you all right but he only goes back to a top guy. Is that what we're saying? He only comes back to fighting. A top guy is. There's no other possibility of maybe No we're talking about gatekeepers journeymen or does he find another journeyman. You know I it. Another look good fight because he has been learning new songs or Roy or Opaque eubank. Honestly speaking the entire. Pbc podcast interview. He made it clear he will not fi a nello or gennady without an audience. Not that he won't but the does are fights that he feels deserve to be on in front of a crowd. You know in front of in front of a crowd so there will be a tune-up if feels that that needs to be in front of a crowd. I'm sure he's not going to find Charlie without crowd and he made it clear like he would fight a tune-up or an eliminator without a crowd. He was specific tuneup or eliminated without a crowd. But he wouldn't fight ninety or you know Gha Love I mean Cannella without crowd. And where are we in that state In boxing right now is. Is there going to be a crowd show pretty soon? I think that some that we were getting excited about a forgot. What show it was? We had that there was another one in. Dr Got cancelled that was that was for to morrow got cancelled. All right so there's no there hasn't been in bet yet in boxing in the states in event yeah here the UFC event it just a UFC events. Oh yeah so. I guess we will get that tuneup. Obviously I That that's what he was saying. I mean I would recommend that. Actually you know coming out of a training camp where you're learning you wrinkles. You WanNa you know you want to try these new things out in in a fight or even in sparring I don't even know if he's sparring out there. You know eubanks learning all the wrinkles and stuff but like is he is again apply fight so he's going to be time to to get all that stuff that he's learned and apply it in the ring in in real time sparring or fighting so that he could develop fully develop. Whatever he's gaining from Roy but in the end I see good things for you bank. I think that You know him being on the PC side You know he has. He has the ability or he has the he's in the stable with the ability to make pick fights. It's going to be up the Mr al-Hamid you know to make sure that he moves everybody along with chessboard properly. So you know things stay stages man back in the day it used to be official to get with our like you used to get out and he used to get you the Cannella you know. Laura was a Cuban emigrant migrating to America's desperately warning Canelo Alvarez by doing everything he had to do both in the media and impress conferences to get it but obviously the key factor was getting out aiming same thing for Austin Trout. Like these guys got the big fight with our. I don't know when the the plan changed and you know how no longer made it his business to get his guys the biggest fight and instead give him consolation prizes. I mean I think he I think part of it has to do with a stable just constantly growing. No you know it's just more I guess more more more pieces to move. I guess you know I the way the way he does things and I can see how that could you know. Get a little Difficult but up again in the people call the fights the fans you know if the fans call the fight in the matchmakers will do their job and the promoters through their job. It's just up to the people to see where they want Eubank junior math. Do people want to see that fight? The people are going to call for it. Yeah I mean what are you want? You haven't really given me. What do you want from this? No no I honestly want the Charles Fight. I want the Charles fight okay. We've been calling now for these young fighters to fight young fighters. You know what I'm saying where we want to see the best fight in the past. You know what I mean and I. We don't want to see a a map. Keribar A in a dentist Hogan whatever you know we don't we don't want WanNa see you know guys that are rising stars or or at the pinnacle facing each other. It's just more exciting for us as fans. Obviously it's a business and things have to make sense but those two can make right and they could cause they're on the same same side you know it's funny that you bank says he hasn't faced anybody Charles being the two division champion both being the same age Charles having the you know bigger wins. I wonder how this press conference will turn out because you know Chris has that very calm but arrogant demeanor so I wonder how that translates Press conference in Charles Face. You know I think Charlie you know that's the thing that's why I wanna see this like I get excited. I'm the boxing fan. That gets it not only about the fight but the leader so all. That's entertainment for me like I'm getting into tame by the fight before the fight comes I'm looking at it. Should be the promoters needs to make that a thing like you gotta entertain us in the buildup. We're not GONNA BE ENTERTAINED FOR THE FINE. A what we're not gonNA plan for your weekend fight unless you got me going the whole week like you know you got me with the I remember. Twenty four seven was that that was the name of the Mayweather Program Twenty Four. I forget the exact name but all that stuff I need. That and Charl makes great dance partner with Chris. Eubank you said he got that little. Chris got that little arrogant. You know fresh with it. You know what I'm saying attitude but Charles to fresh fill me but you know Charles always brings that that attitude man you know you always bring that attitude and he actually can like get you out zone. You know what I'm saying. He gets you into zone. I mean look at Tony Harris that that was hilarious and you know exciting and all that other stuff. So it's like these are the type of things that get us fans excited you throughout that thing and boom is over time to fight. I'll see you fan Charles. An email champ like Devin Haney finding that you guys even fingers the type that when you bank has never won a world title that that's thinking no Commonwealth let that sink in man. You know you guys need to like I dunno thing before you talk. You can't talk about Charles Opposition. When he actually won a world title versus you know and defended it versus who the people wanted him to defend it you know they. They claimed he would duck Julian Williams. But how fickle we are how quickly we forget. You know yet natural. Charles definitely my guy go is due respect. You know what I'm saying. That's the reason why eubanks calling him. He's one of the guys on the list. it's not just because he feels he can beat them. He knows that a win over any of these guys is huge And again Jamaal Charles. The reason why I want that fight. 'cause they're young. They're in their prime. I see a big lead up talking shit and all that will always want to see my Mac and that'll fight but you know he's not really A. I mean Dan he was the first time. Were actually salk. I never get a little bit. You know his his feathers ruffled doug a bigger name to you in the UK. Billy Joe Saunders Bank. Does Chris eubank having the father? The legendary name get him more. Pay Per view. Sales more viewership now billie Joe still the bigger guy while yet Billie Joe is still the biggest guy even though he did that stupid crap on the on the on the posting of you know that bullcrap that we all heard about He's still the Guy Man. He has the better wins. He's Slick. He's fun to to watch because when he's when he's making your miss you know he does that whole you know. Where did it go a? He's still. He's still an exciting fighter. Know even though he's controversial in a lot of ways he's still he's still more popular in the UK. I think he but you know you bank does have that clout he has that clout giving the Billie Joe that that went on that. Yeah I don't know how you could say Charl beat bums when he be Austin Trout. Canine Bundle Edge. Julian Williams those a three. Decent names All all bigger names than any win on Chris. Eubanks resume Chris. You know maybe James Gale again but but I guess you could put James Gaels win right with Charles. Title Shot Versus Canine. Canine was a champion at the time. When Charles will form unlike the gale who vacated to fight Chris just in case. You need a revision history. Yeah it's crazy because I mean regardless of what you got to say about your mom he. He's he's taking guys out. You know my man a eubank. Tko Coral bubble whatever but was an injury in on the keio percentage all right seventy percent. Charles looking like right now because okay so they average about the same thing. Okay I was gonNA give Jamal You know the up on that one and you know taking guys out. I guess because his aggressive style I mean both guys do have aggressive styles. That would be crazy. Man It definitely. Somebody's definitely GONNA get knocked down in a fight like this some say saying man at the more. I'm looking into this. I get more excited Yeah this these guys both believe in themselves I mean imagine I mean I could imagine you face the canal. Oh and still being a little wary. You know what I'm saying. You're facing that guy where wherever you. What like like worried you know. Yeah you're worried you're facing a legend like there's more pressure on you. You know what I'm saying. Not that there ain't no pressure with your mall but like I see them both. Think in a good mindset to really take on each other you know like I could take you know I can take you out. Well I mean I would love to see the fight. It's the it's the only fight out of everything that we've been discussing all morning that as possible. You know or rather easiest to make witches Carlo and eubank very easy to make and I'm GonNa try and get our guest on here. See if we can add them. Missed Elvis Rodriguez and He's been fired on here. Yeah no he signed a top rank Elvis and he should be fighting in July. He was scheduled already and obviously corona virus pushed him back so Sounds like we got him on line. Let me just give them a few minutes to connect turn the cameras on and get things going so yeah. It looks like we're going to be ready with. Elvis Rodriguez up and come in how you doing guys. Good Morning. One of the one of the more morning. How's everyone good? Good Benji. Can you turn the camera so that people could see the? Guy Star getting no his face. We do this more would then go. L. Knight on. I wish there you go out and new. So how are you Benji? We'll talk to you the manager. How how did you find this Guy Man? How did you find him? And why is he special special enough? Obviously for Freddie Roach to invest his time and be as full time trainer for a prospect which is really unseen right now. Elvis's a five or six all six enough so tell us where. Where'd you find him? And how could he be? You know I just have my ear to the to the amateur scene was going on and I saw this kid who was he had. He had such a pro style was begging guys in. Baggies guys out in and One of the few guys. That was really exciting. I saw a couple of these One forty pounds stars quote unquote. But they'll put me to sleep. You know this guy was just off. His Admiral Fights Pfizer so exciting. So you know this guy could be something in the pros and for him. Honestly the guys. Well let's let's spice things up you guys can choose to confirm or deny but I did hear that. There is. There was a possible sparring match. That could it took place with Elvis and a guy that supposedly self proclaimed in the runnings for an Earl Spencer junior fighting them talking about more Reese Ambitious Aka Stories League I wanted to know how well does Elvis. No Him and can you confirm or deny any of the rumors that he will put all types of hands on ambitious a get together more easily. I hope what I can see a guy one more when my mom hasn't won home that I'm not Adam minority answering. He's a three times in. We put in on that they WANNA get back into the ring. Wow so axum. Obviously he shared to ring with ambitiously. Does he consider them a a decent for Earl considering the tragic accident or does he think that Mr Lee doesn't stand a chance even with the accident on that I came more easily won Okay and some of the accident do away all and multiple SALIDA own accident. They get the say non Osama bin on the end though the more the Komo dilate the Died Seattle lobby up at all. Oguchi di Aloui separate Bulletin the bottle ballet on an will donate I know is. I'm a sure how What type shape. Earl Spencer's in after the after the fight In any type of fighting shape but if he's you know the same before you stand a chance. Wow so obviously maurice is hundred and forty seven pounder A? We'll wait wuzzy when Elvis come. Elvis fights at one forty. So what was Elvis in? What are you guys? Assume Maurice was because his interesting to see one forty obviously say that he basically beat up a guy bigger than him who normally would be bigger than his fighting comes sparring on a on Saturday. Kathy might say God. What Biden going Winning butting lining in the easy said. He's as much sure but he's he never spoiled for forty pounds because gathering while forty pounds. It doesn't go off them. So so so. How is it going with him? And Freddie Roach is the language barrier in issue or are you there. One hundred percent of the time more Succeed Community Sally Yang and hundred of namone Madan. Then the Jogo GonNa see Donald Gelling lay a modern the endo dot day in might have been the end the local Song Dos. I didn't hang but I'm not. I'm not saying is they've they've been. It was a communicate while he understands a little bit of English. So you know little by little. They've been understand each other more and more but Thankfully while up until this point are you present during the training Benji and do you assist in translation making sure that gets it most of the time unprecedented so you don't have the luxury of just being fulltime managing kind of chaperone. I'm almost I'd say ninety ninety five percent of the top beautiful beautiful you know. Obviously the reason I ask is You know this is a big name trainer and it would suit Elvis beautifully if he can remain with him long-term and You know you would only assume that communication would be one of those hiccups but you as a manager. What would you say you are seeing the developmental department in terms of Elvis's skills after being under the tutelage of a Freddie Roach been leaps and bounds of the provider that he is right now compared to the fighter that he wasn't he got the earth? No two different guys Each just came along so nicely an an and I think that his style just suited. You know he's a southpaw. He's aggressive so him and Freddie was like a match made in heaven so has he had the I guess. Liberty to spar many pack. Alan is looking forward to manny getting back in the ring to possibly go to camp with manny. Since you know there's rumors he could be fighting and he has. He has sparred. Many many patio yet through giving the bug waiver. Bali Him without a s all of a sudden Cheddar Obey. We went but gotta he said he would love this far many hopefully in the next the next time he fights it'd be great experience for him. Obviously myself being Dominican. My pants being Dominican understand the poverty that it is out there. Can you ask them if you know when he was on the come? Up in the Dominican Republic. Did he ever envision being trained by Freddie Roach and possibly even sparring pack being in the position that he's in right now of mini gun goes up on How or when seed loose? We do that pretty road. But we'll try Community saying I'M WASTING DETROIT. Lamy they your Milovan Alejandro Only meals a day side not only might not have a gay donkey frail. So Don don't even get dog but all tiger but but I forget Doma. Sandoval danger disciple out brandon gays Llodra Island Would've is about Donald you know he said The Sky's the limit He always sky was the limit He's very happy to be here. He's not surprised It's definitely a dream come true but he he's always worked very very hard. Can you ask like who did he look up to visit? American boxers or are there actual Dominican boxes like John Boozman or anybody in in an from Dior that he looked up to at that eleven-year-old Agent. And you know kind of made the decision to become a fighter. Mcconnell May From which the detering they up. Lalli the money bucky our with the GAL Mondo been though in the sale about biennial in the docu billions Sent on now he. He said he you know he always looked up to Trinidad. He always watched a lot of tournaments fights impact with his father even to this day. Pack y'All's one of his biggest idols. So you know. It's really a dream that that he's here right now. What's going on champ? It's Alex here with you Ask Him how many or maybe you know. How many amateur fights did he have? Before he transitioned over to pro more than two hundred not let something like that and ask them how. How was the transition from Amateur appropriate decide am. I saw my daddy. Com brush is assassin windy landing an also a on. I Guess Allen Governor It on the OSCE The dossier but the in a failing in a couple of brush The is very different the pros on the amateurs very different. You know Maybe a lot of people don't see the difference but you really have to be a pro game for the Walton. Start seeing that the the differences and you the night in day so Benji How long has he? Is it? Benji your Benny Award. Okay I was wondering Damn. How do I get Benji? Benny Benji so where was I? Okay so how long has he been in the United States? Wall site are Numidian raising a year and a half so about three fights of those. You know he's been living here And what about the last? I guess the ones before that has he been training and then coming here as or has he always had camp in America always hear. Oh Nice Nice Nice. So what's up with this drum and we've got a blemish early busted puzzle. The budget might have meant guy. Now my the SEAN. How do we do we got? Sia Go up. They knew ninety them. You're renting You know he had. He had the guy hurt in the first round. Unfortunately the clashed heads and the guy had a really big gadget was gushing blood everywhere and unfortunately in California California rules anything before. The fourth rounded that get stopped is draw via no contest but I thought it would have been a no con- says while any other state would have been no contest except for California goofy. Well you know that definitely was the most experienced guy since it only lasted around. Did he get a feel for the guy because man that guy had over twenty something fights when you compare it to the other people that he was facing before the happy to do all the need to have? Now we'll go for a phone up Rob From Yo D'Amato Gong Bell. Quite on the way not up on a job is you don't really feel. I feel anything from him. He said John Did was hurt. Them to the body and Nadan finish them. They hit they clashed heads but short-term to really learn the feeling so What what sort of names is he being able to share the ring with being in Wildcard? I mean I would assume everything goes in and out of there like a revolving door Who over walk in Alexander was how Nice Town War Gore men of allegory? The Ad Ro role a simple Dealer Jason Go. Wow Daniel that's big. He's a big guy. Huma all right now. Working with thick floor tease. Oh Wow vic is back okay. The thirties and He worked with Gabe Rosado of nine. He was spoiled big guys. Don't follow on forty one thirty five like that. Wow Wow impressive. So you guys are back in action. July fifteenth correct. I know it's July correct. June twenty. Oh Damn all the way wrong all right all right so June. Twenty fifth no word of an opponent. Just yet or what? Yeah Yeah we have an almost full into Christopher Gonzales. He's undefeated seven to no one draw. Okay and you guys had options or this was the only name thrown at you because of the time. I know it's corona virus and you got to kind of teams from here in the states so yeah pick names from the states order supposed to fight him role on for your Lee you know because of corona the guy. The guy is a little bit heavier than I guess. He gained a little bit of weight. Vice going to be a one forty four over. We don't really have many options because of the virus in a lot of these guys I've been ready. They have doing anything so we were limited. And you can't bring anybody from out of the state. So speaking of no options another undefeated fighter though From a managerial standpoint. What was the process in that? Isn't he still developing y another undefeated fighter so soon? I'm mega confidence in. Novus as it is what it is like. We want to get Arch objectors hopefully to being with a big name next year. So we gotta take right steps. You know we're hoping to get you know. If if Ramirez is next year we'd love to get him otherwise Still smoke comes up to one forty. We'd love that that's so archer. Ejector is to build them to a big fight next year. 'cause boxing's change this whole thing about a twenty something fights get in the ring you tell. Fremaux. He has a fourteen fights and he's a world champ so you know that's that's the new. That's the new trend so we're just get ready for that studio model right now. Yeah I like the way. Boxing is and the amount of fans loopholes in and we don't really have a major network to be honest So we don't have time to guys like what do you mean you got a major network? You guys are not without bring. Yeah and most of the was do put. Boxing isn't really on major networks and laws. Hbo THERE ON ESPN. But you know online really So they're just trying to make big fights happen definitely We from the people before we let you go first. One is from in Dallas. Fort Worth says the Dominican culture has a cool man. Would you wear a face mask representing the Dominican culture during your next ring walk? I want us to talk about February twenty seven You know. How could I explain? I don't I. I'm I'm born over here so I definitely don't know the traditional name of the mass but I know exactly what he's talking about Elvis. Do I go Palo Commodities? Look and see. The in. Bonanza Known Mental Coleman Love Ega he illness market. I did I'M GONNA ask Vega may leg dominate the embark on how to to South America? You'll go below so elaborate guenter L. A. C. l. This America. So how you say cool. Kosovo somebody's GonNa see Ghana's Ghana get up on market are coming not by quadrilateral but not the molly the abacus is. Do I am Roy. So I don't know finale. More young sobbed joy in charge of the peace on the other hand. They happy soundly and then does it. Got Up without Janos. Unisys cost of the idea but own Lamberton Allina eat the no. No no no no no no thank God we got one more from James Valdez. This says James From San Antonio no question just wanted to tell Elvis. Thank you for coming on the show and keeping us. Boxing fans entertained look forward to seeing upcoming fight champ so no question he just wanted to tell him what's up and that he's following his career yet but you know we're looking for we're looking for big things next year so hopefully you keep your eye on him on June twenty fifth. We'll make another big splashing. Keep knocking these guys out. You know and God willing not ten months a year down the line. We should be in a big fight. That'S THE PLAN. We talked with top rank. So that's the that's the plan with the last one Pity Pool or pulls any sort of inspiration or motivation from Jason Rosario big win over Julian Williams becoming unified probably one of the First Unified Dominicans that I know anyway. I think maybe joon goes mom might have been unified at was input out of party at Jason from Saudi. Come from we gotta go on by lovely flown on Yamamoto's So them with our gag. Lame again law mini Ghana ben and more than Seattle. But I know but a bomb August Highs leading said you know definitely It shows that there's no there's really no limit if you train hard and and and that even Dominicans can get there for sure. Well Benjamin if you can please give out your social media and Have him give out his and tell them definitely be June? June twenty fifth can't wait. He's putting his undefeated record online versus another undefeated and we definitely appreciate that three paralyzed. Guess both Elvis Rigas box. I got we got a couple of late minute questions to if you have time. Big Casual says what? Big Time Boxer. Can you see yourself fighting in the future? The boy I'll get the legal China. I'm more I'm washing By the wind. Delivery open made than Lloyd Y. You go no number on Dan. Say you'll stay for Sarah May Gamaa but I don't feel all dead hand and see single era and we'll do it all to one dollars and drama Toledo and does he think he can hold a will actually go ahead and translate. Sorry he's GonNa hopefully in the future of big names. Josh Taylor Jose Jose Ramirez fee more. If he comes up Ryan Garcia. Evan Haney and do you think he can hold that way because obviously he said Jose Ramirez that would be a fantastic fi. But is Jose GonNa be around and CAN ELVIS? Stay around to wait for the Ryan's and Mohsen adjuvants us to move up but in your brushing line. The add add one dollar. It makes the we problem. He doesn't struggle to make weight or anything. So we'll be around while forty four while I don't know Ramirez is going to be around. He's a big guy and you know he's getting older so he's put on a little weight but I think those other guys will be around soon enough fee most definitely getting bigger st him moving up you know within the next year or so so definitely that. That's a realistic fight. I don't Know Ryan Garcia and Evan. Haney in those guys will move up. But you know whatever happens When's the next time well? Obviously we don't know exactly but The next fight the he does have. Is it going to be twenty? Two twenty you fights June twenty-fifth okay. So how many rounds does that. Christopher believe it's six rounder to crystal Kegs Islas. He's facing June twenty-fifth last question. Sorry that one white boy says how do you like being in America compared to the Dominican Republican? Can you give us your favorite aspect about both countries are going with the what? Saginaw game in the SEC. Endo Gray and renowned them will a Bengal Mahara one day Endo which Omaha Many connor he said a full for boxing. Much better here he added. He's more focus Better sparring better training and the conditions are just overall better here for training and just What does he like about America? The most and what did he like about the other? Most the the the mother supplement by Naushad. Domingo decided up a memo assignment on belief. Easy battle On Donald from John. Rengo I I knew grinding. We talk with this. I'm Bill Weighing Mrs. You know his family and the Food A lot. So so. There's no Dominican Spicer like investments in nest. They lacked that over there. Oh my God go to Lasco. You're the man so so he has it. He hasn't been to New York City yet. You haven't he hasn't had a fight at till we took them to New York. We went to most last fight. Okay and we went to. His last fight was his last. Night was Miami in February so we love own all that and people and the food and and and New York. Same thing no. We wasn't a high in the South Man. Beautiful beautiful you know. I'm actually Kinda glad right like you. Keep them away from his people. He my stay more focused man a lot even for tuna. These guys are talented but you know of lack. That motivation in gym goes my had history of missing Wade. And Fortuna doesn't really give you everything you think he can give you all the time so you know. Maybe it's probably best staying away from everybody until he gets where he needs to go tacky in the simple call got symposium on the side. I'm on a monkey. The more focused solemn more. Thank deg on the indefeasible Homey guess shallow now the legal at the free He's gray about possibly. Are you know? Thankfully you don't give to give a hundred percent is focused than he has discipline. Nobody forced the boxer. He chose the view boxes. So this business choice and personally for me. I think that's the biggest I WANNA to say. Let's say difficulty. That idea with a manager manager Dominican fighters. It is Everyone's preconception of that. Like everyone all you know. They're not focused. Not Discipline noted. They balloon up way. You know they never reach their full potential on and on and on and and and it's crazy to see how many people view that I saw the other day that you know the most difficult day in this world to do is be the first something so right now he needs to be the first American to show people that that's not real that have different and not everybody's like well. I mean he's coming at a great time to you. Know he can be part of the movement that changes the perception of the Dominican fighter. If you remember even five years ago Cubans had bad. I mean you can't be Cuban and get on TV. You know what I mean. It was just difficult so right now. He's got guys like Jason Rosario himself what is go BEREA. He's also Dominican and doing real good. This a few. You know Herman Herman says succeed. Though for Miami the Tray Lewis he has a few of them but I want to thank you guys obviously coming on man we appreciate you coming on and shot out to you. Most Dominican fighters come into the game or via Samson. So you're doing your thing grabbing yourself hot talent out there man appreciate you guys giving us. The opportunity can to get back on much success. June twenty fifth man Jello Savvy. That'll meal they have a ladies and gentlemen. Elvis Rodriguez live on the show. We want to thank him. Obviously for coming on and participating being part of the show and obviously bringing us up to speed on everything that is he him and what he's going to do and and I'm glad they have that mindset that they understand that there's people out there like me who do not believe in Dominicans we just don't believe in Dominicans not when it comes to boxing you talking about baseball is do it in an immediate my dance. Let's do it. Let's coach picking up some chicks. Let's do it. But boxing man it takes a lot of discipline and I'm happy formula. I mean he's he's with the team he's in the right place and hopefully a pans. I look I'm GonNa give me my final thoughts on the main topic Charles. Oh well not really Charlie which Chris eubank so first verse super excited for him that he's officially training with Roy Jones and he sees himself finishing his career off were Jones as his trainer and a don't mind is wishlist. I think it's very realistic. I I liked the fact that he didn't put canal. Oh I see understands you know that. It's not doable. But by choosing denied on that wishlist. I you can probably still go ninety spot and even though that one is probably you know just as difficult to make at least those in trial. Oh absolutely no respect for Charl which means will get a good press conference out. Say My last Couple of cents on that one up through my last sense in Jack Charlton's Charles. That's the fight that I wanNA see at all of the other ones the other ones. I find it very difficult to make like the one with Canadian canal. I find it very difficult to make Even if he had a inbetween fight and then his next fight would not be canetti canal in my opinion. Because there's so much going on and so much red tape to make those happens tomorrow Charles. Same side both young fighters. The both gives a great lead up. I'm all in for Jamal. Says Jurmala Jamal on the title? Jamal Jamal Jamal Cardoso. Let's go chance. Let's go champs dramatic second guessing myself over here All right. Let's go out to these callers. Liz Liz do. Do you know the number to call in one. Four to five five six nine fifty to forty one remember to rate his five stars on itunes. These calls are brought to you by L. Trickle services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation visit us at El Camino Dot Com? Ride the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time to voice your opinion. And if you guys want to call in on skype then you know you. Just gotTa Add Nestor Gibbs on skype to be part of the conversation. We'RE GOING OUT TO STEVE CHICAGO TALK TO. Can you come back to me sure? We're going out to Josh. In North Carolina Ringa would morning to shoot Simpson. I So the Jamal got a wishlist of Nello Love Kennedy. You've got that. Wis eubank is live. That's all three. Well maybe glove. He'd beat but the other two we loose to. Yeah is Roy Roy. Jones really efficiently trying to get together and say he going to stick with Roy probably for the rest of this. Well I love I hope. Oh Hate their phone because rugby trying to teach people to fight like him. If there's training them so I don't know you think you'd be able to be a minimum wage on pay per view. They they really pay per view stars. I don't know this. I don't know you just WanNa to make some money but salutes. Y'All right alright. Alright y'all there's actually two people ranked above Elvis in the Dominican Republic at one and we know them. Yeah we do we do. We don't I just didn't even know there was another vigil Jenny's Mendez who that's somebody he can. Top in time but Mendez has been there forever. He's for everybody you know he's been. I think two time world champ. He's got losses. Twenty five wins three draws and then the undefeated up and coming out of the belt. Oh Buju No I always. I always mess that up. The Double L. is like John Right is peninsula in his own letter. It's yeah it's like the why in English. So who Joel? Your you're well. What's his first name? Out of. Benneteau bed though? Yeah he sure is not a medical whole from song. Better throw food. Say It's not it's P. U. L. P. U. E. Elo welll Boileau or. It could be wail better. It just depends on how it could be either but yeah I think it's a way you let's go back to Steve Chicago. Hey Good Morning Yeah. I agree with the last caller. The only one that's Honorable Right now triple high c anybody at the top taken him out a I don. I don't favorite eubank over Charles or an aloe but triple g to me the most vulnerable and really. That's all I gotta say Chippucci Looks. He's got that low hanging fruit plaque right on his chest after that fight. They ain't give them a man not chains. He probably GONNA knock out setting men in good fashion and get people back on the bandwagon. You know we going out to Sony. Cincinnati Sony going once. Those vases finish him. We'RE GOING OUT TO NEW JERSEY. Kings kings went up yellow. Tbb was good. What what I say I see how he tried to go with the Internet. Make sense to do the the trip. Would you fight because it feel good in the good? Yeah I had to fight. It was and I agree with that because I don't know why it didn't happen but but I would also say is You know it's a better common opponent triple G don't look is fearless and even even sooner than that. Why not you bank in Jacob's Last night y'all talking about Derek Tinkle and I feel I thought Jacobs you know there was a good fight and it was a closer fight with triple gene therapy. Chico put you know you Bang Junior? If he can't get the triple g fight put him in Jacob's I think it's a good fight for both of them so his wishlist is pretty good Going to hold the line up man. Shout the man. I'm out king. I mean a Essex yo O- what If I got Tom going work today. I'm getting a lot of Info for new. Show breaking news here on the boxing place. But I'll let you just keep that in Europe. What does this your pocket anyway? We're going out to Jay MAK INDIE NEW ORLEANS GEM India New Orleans. These bitches sport total disrespect. Key has become smartest thing in do. Stay away from one hundred. A billion you was good morning I caught. I caught the as in an interview and the topic of the show is Roy Jones training officially. Now 'cause remember they was just doing lockdown quarantine thing but that said they must have had that magical conversation he say staying Roy for the rest is for the rest of his career. Plus he's saying wishlist is gone ninety canal. Jamal in that order I let me get my two calls back to back I don't like it but I mean Shit I the fire and Chris eubank jewelry. I I heard he used to do some shit like used to train hisself releases the I'll be out there speaking like he trains his so for God traded self the hookup with Roy Jones. That's kind of scary and dangerous. I don't High of I think Jones was very talented fighter in his prompt. I think he He was a great fighter. Due to the Lettuce system phase where he wasn't is so's east are losing his lettuces and is traced. Naturally he declined so technically. I don't believe in Roy Being able to like room fire unless shares some special traits that he has so. I think that's a mistake and like I say Chris you big on record saying he's training this so for the pet issues and for him to give with a guy who's Tannin base was based off lettuces I'M GONNA question that this C- Results or see how Benefits him and his fighting style. I mean what else on it anything else does. It mean okay. I know too much about interview. I just was listening like like I said I came in a little late Shit you. I'll find out calls. That's my cones army. Made some good points. Only thing I got to say about that really is You know you you gotta you gotta you gotTa at least about Eubank Juniors athleticism like you said you know He's he was saying that you know it's based off athleticism All the skills that Roy had as soon as his athleticism started declining so the his skill I don't think it really works like that the audio from the interview done with. Abc's podcast with. Chris eubank he he spoke about it. They didn't even have to ask him. He said look you know. I'M NOT FIGHTING TO BE THE NEXT ROY or look like Roy. That's not what we're doing. So you know He. He knows. The Roy tries to to teach people the moves the he used to do but they working on other stuff. I mean. There's a lot of clarity in the in the in check checkup a going right back to. What he was saying is like I think he has e kind of answer your own question. What you said because the athleticism in eubank is crazy. So you know any of the wrinkles. The he's teaching them. I think that you bank athleticism will help you know in in making sure that those movements are executed precisely the way that Roy Jones wants to do up. You know I give. I give hoping that the athleticism is there Yeah father time kicks. Everybody's but you know what I mean as as you get older you ain't going to be as fast you ain't GonNa be no your reflexes. Aren't going to be sharp. All that stuff starts to climb as you get older but you bank is not at that stage so I still feel confident that you know regardless of what people may think about fundamentals which I don't really go against 'cause Roy Jones was unorthodox in ways you know. He did things that we never saw before. You know putting his hands behind his back all this crazy stuff that he was a showman in the ring and for people don't know being a showman in the ring ties to your style. You know you do certain things in the rings you you 'cause the the fighter to react in certain ways so you know it's all about style man and he has the athleticism again pointing towards the athleticism Not going totally against what J. Maxx said Just focusing on on that little detail right. There is a Oklahoma the good morning. How are Y'all when Diaz? I don't know man I think some underrating of both I think. Triple G Is seriously underrated. Of course that's arguable than a dirk. Shinko I think he's a he's a name up there. I think he's mandatory for one of the belts but I'm not mad at the list ready for some fights that's all I got to say. Y'All have a good day. I mean like that though is he. I like that. He's always you know we been so hard on triple g and I mean you know. Sometimes we inherited that but like we. We are hard on that man. Bro. Everybody's just sleeping on him. He's the low hanging fruit right now. I mean he's thirty eight Bro and he ain't looking good in his last night. Nobody's hard on them. They just see reality. He's he's he's right now. He's a victim. You know what I'm saying. They got the ski mask. Gone coming from anyone. Aiding he got. They been wanted though they didn't wanted it. It's been chasing Challah than one in a in a mandatory eliminator the WBZ call triple. Gee said Phnom Cool. I'm gravy. Like people have been trying to eat his food. He just don't want he got his whole arm around. Its Bowl they bench. Shawna eat is fooled me away for Cannella to pick them. That's all we going out to info. Joe California would you know Joe Portion love the show we call off? Mavs is doing my workout. Get my dips in this morning. We'll sub TB family with the morning. Good Dis brought new surgical. Make that back onto big worse. A far as eubanks. May I like his order? I think actually I think it's going to be Jim Jamaal. Charles is GonNa be next opponent my opinion but I but I like to order he. He has denied Gluskin Jamaluddin Canal. Oh is that right yeah? He's got gluskin canal. Oh Charl- yeah but I think it's going to be Charles I hope that hope he can get out of that trouble. He got into to also been charged yet man. He Ain't been charged yet. You know according to TMZ. He's just a suspect in an investigation. He ain't even been charts so right now he's in the clear. Tmz probably you know. Jumping the gun. Not as good. Hope we can get out of it and hope you don't get charge. Your sat out to Minneapolis. Koya HAIRS UP. Keep pushing and so. We got boxing bars immoral. What I mean is looking that way. I'll know we got a couple of days definitely solidify for sure so. We'll have one ten o'clock Tom. I'm assuming boxing bars is on chant. It's all alright. Y'All sat out to the boxing Dazs. Everybody have a blessed no stress day. And let's just keep going keep pushing piece family trae in the Bay Boomerang. Just listening trim that coach Midi workout. I definitely felt old yesterday. Greatness Harlem sees of Vegas Caesar Without you all all the background always guys ABC Friday man. Yeah break show so far. I think Eubank I think it would benefit you your take Tripoli fly before the Charlotte fire but like Joe said thanks. Get the charter fire. I and that's going to be at the end of that. Because I think he was kinda getting it in the Corbeau fight his worst and stuff and if he in my personal belief it's he had Gotten hurt Gorba- for that is. I think he would've would've put open on You Bank the way. It was looking but But yeah I never really watched your bank fight to to crazy like that. I mean I watched a lot of satellites and stuff like that. But what else are we talking about? Just Chris eubank. He's officially training with Roy now. They made their announcement and he put out his three fight. Wishlists Gana Canal Talia triple. Gee I WANNA say about trump which I think I think we were just talking about I think you put it great when you were saying that triplets. Or you're saying all yeah that he's basically everybody wanted to Get a slice of that cake. You know throughout his career and I think his last performance like you guys all say we'll have you done for me lately. Looked like he looked like booty his last fight. So I think it just makes these guys want to jump on it more but wasn't triple g the one that turned down to nullify This last time and he chose to take that one with the city. Mouse sentiment. Kim. Who all right so I just wanted to clarify that. Because like you said that he wasn't ready he ain't GonNa be ready man that style he got. You're GONNA be ready. You gotTA. He got a he got to put that into play. Talk to us. Hey what's up James? Nah I just wanted to say is a great show. This morning Brought up a good point earlier I like the idea of the the build up for the fight eubanks and his dad the way they talk and then the the Charles Brothers the way they talk to be good build up for the fight. You're man we probably. We're GONNA probably find Chris. Eubank getting pushed over somewhere by stampede. Abd`er I like that. I like that build up to and then and then I just wanted to say with that. Elvis Rodriguez interview and I can't keep up with you guys. Because I'm a new Patriarch Emmanuel. Put out so much stuff just this morning on the way to work. I heard that interview have withdrawal Ds. And I couldn't believe man. He gave up so much stuff. I said man. He's got a great show. You guys got a great show. Just WanNa give you a thumbs up man appreciate your brother appreciate your man. Thank you for being page on obviously We read your questions and You topics glad we're keeping you busy man guy you know. Better have the not half honestly. I was truck Java. Better the have not have unit. I mean Especially if you really love to consume audio content the way that I did and that's why I make it the way that I do because I I understand that me that issue like search in. I think back Bro. And like when I used to work at the George Washington Bridge in I worked security. I wanNA cubicle overnight Bro. Every single day I wish I would've known about the box. Boxing boys or something like that. Yeah Pro your loan sometime. I understand as a trucker to your drive in your loan on the road and I know I would. I would have went through so fast so much faster through my shifts man. Listen something like this. Y'All so All right so it looks like we got one new caller and he called in yesterday. We got you down champ got you. Don't go let me see that. Is THAT IS SANTI? What else on t. We got a new sandy. We Yo you we've had. We got a Sunday. We call him. Do they call him? Sandy his name is Santiago. But this is saying. I'm just saying something because I'm so Spanish Saint Joe's this is Saint Joseph Before we go to Saint Joseph. Get yourself in order saint. We're going to be coming to you in a few seconds. I wanted to say yo Bro. I I'm tight. The no one not no one because obviously do me his here. But I'm tied the none of the other CO host showed up man dominate was supposed to show up. She had text me and everything asked him. What was the topic and stuff like that and I Guess Enrica is busy working on a our secret weapon shirt but is because he hit me like you on working. You Know Shane he is but I say all that to say damn. I wanted to do overtime today Bro. The topic I just found it and I think is right man and I'm wondering should we just transition live right into overtime to give him a little taste. Because Freak. If I didn't WanNA talk about this Bro. What what what you don't remember the overtime let me resend it. Because I don't WanNa talk about it in case we do it later if we ain't going to do but this is what. I wanted to talk about right here. Bro. This I mean I don't know man. My mind thinks so different than everybody else. You probably don't even see the angle that I'm going with that that being said let me get out the Sun Santi. Joseph Saint Saint Joe I what the Bush the show. I appreciate it down. I'm a truck driver. Also so y'all here helping me out today and Were you thank the like? He's like to go out to g because he's trying to get him. He's trying to get him while he's oh he thought he saw like He thought he he didn't really do much. Islam last five. He's he's how he was messing up near. I mean that's all I really got the I you know the only downside to talking about the topic and not keep in the video separate is that then you know it's not searchable and nobody can use that free episode of Overtime to know what overtime is about. But damn this overtime I was waiting. I saved this one two we got. Cyp Talk to me. What up hookers. What with with want beat we hook is a host asked. Don't be getting offensive. Maybe as everybody said he touches. Right now lizzy lizzy our new could be a eubanks fan. But Hey starla both of those men a cocky individuals very confident black man. That don't bother me actually like cocky confident black dude. That's how I am so I wrote them cats. Don't bother me. The difference is one of them is better and he works hard. That's just it just happens to be one better and worked harder. If you believe in eubanks go ahead root for I'm lying. Only everybody knows that so it is what it is. I'm not routine eubanks but I ain't got no issue with the man. Good luck to you in the fight. And when it's over we be pumping fists like we do every fight. It's going to be that now. Some people in the chat on the side note seems to think that ring magazine. Don't matter now we'll of ring magazine. Top Ten don't matter the BBC chopped Tan. Don't matter pink and if you opinion is all that matters you have nothing because none of our opinion matters to boxing speech also right throughout the up. Well well we know we're CYP's Hartley's line stand to this day but I mean Yeah you could argue definitely that Charles You know probably been out there seen as working hard to have we have we ever seen. You Bake as a slacker. I don't think Nah hell no as a hard worker. He overworked overwork here. That might be even better. He's definitely a worker worker. Man I so that is everybody except we gotta go to Boomerang j Mac talk to me while we wait for Jay. We got super chat from the X. Who says we need that overtime? I wanted man. I WANNA do Jay Mac. Not Coming on. Maybe he doesn't need to be more goes right. That's right yes right you said. Give me both calls and we show enough. Did that j Mac the Killa Cam Cam killer camp trying trae in obey again early in the bay trying you again one to I catch us on the next one. 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The Best Dessert Ive Ever Had

Strawberry Letter

13:23 min | 3 months ago

The Best Dessert Ive Ever Had

"Time now for today's strawberry letter and listen if you need advice on relationships on dating work sex parenting and more police, submit your strawberry letter to Steve Harvey F M Dot COM and click submit strawberry letter. We could be reading your letter live on the air just like we're going to read this one right here right now. Buckle up hold on tight. We got it for you here at. The Strawberry Lab. Thank you nephew subjects the best desert I've ever had do Stephen Shirley I'm a twenty nine year old single man and I'm in a bad situation. My cousin is a pilot and because he's always out of town, he's basically got in every city. My cousin also has a girlfriend of five years and he has been talking about marrying her she's a successful twenty nine year old woman that really loved my cousin and they have a great relationship other than the fact that he cheats a lot. I. Worn my cousin about getting sloppy with cheating and taking pictures with the women. Then the unthinkable happened he was on an international trip and he called me panicked one of the women had sent his girlfriend a message on social media and it had naked pictures of him in the shower at her house. She also told his girlfriend. There are other females that he's that she's aware of but didn't have proofs. My cousin called me in a panic and. Asked me to go over to his girlfriend's house to assess the situation and talked to her his girlfriend and I are cool. But I did not want to get involved I. reluctantly went to his girlfriend's place. She wasn't upset when I got there and basically said stuff happens and we didn't need to discuss it. She had cooked. So I ate dinner with her and we drank a whole bottle of wine I was feeling good and she could tell. ME, up from the table and slid out of her dress, then she straddled me in my chair. So I had sex for dessert. It was the best dessert I ever had. I felt terrible afterwards and we promised we'd keep it a secret lied later on I. Got a call from my cousin yelling through the phone, his girlfriend recorded US having sex at the table and she sent the video to my husband with the tag. Pay Back. Am I supposed to fix things with my cousin? He wants to fight me. Well, of course, he wants to fight you. Video. Up. Now. Oh. Yes. Well. This is one of those situations where you should have followed your goods, Mr Twenty nine year old and just stayed out of their business. You said, you didn't WANNA get involved. The thing is you were already in it though every time you took your cousins call and let him dump all of his drama on you you were in the business, but this is what I don't get I. Don't get him asking you to go over there and feel out the situation and talked to her you know assess the situation that is so weird to me because what did he expect you to do i? Don't get that what she did was way wrong but you can't say he didn't deserve now you can't say that he's been asking for it with his behavior for a long time. Obviously. You north. He thought that she would do that. You know to try to get you back get him back at that. You know that way. Like that WHO? You know. But how much of his foolishness shenanigans was she supposed to take I mean five years of this mess come on now. So yeah. He's mad at you but his anger is really misplaced because he's really mad at his girl. I mean truth be told I don't know what to tell you at this point, but I definitely would stay away from him because yeah, he wants to fight you for sure Stay away from him for a while stop taking his calls and hope. That since he works from home a lot. Hopefully, he'll do that a whole lot lot lot more and. Because she just got the best of you guys. She did you were the fall guy and she got the best of him. She wanted revenge and she got stay away because he saw everything you did to his girl on that video it was there in black and white. Wow Steve Stockman. Well Fuck. Your teeth is right surely. Yeah You do a wonderful job with this job. Thank you. A nothing you say it possible. tweet. Black dooms right here. Surely, the news this this stay away from the L.. Yeah. He you. visit this is a disaster it is. Now, he no, his husband been doing what he's doing I mean his cousin been doing what he doing he already know that. And you know she's a successful twenty, nine year old woman she loves it because they got a great relationship. except. You said, he cheats a lot. Eventually this happens. I've worn my cousin about getting sloppy. Jeetan, taking pictures with women. Did he said the unthinkable happened. Whenever somebody safe. The unthinkable happened you got to buckle up, sit opinion see and to-you breath cost you. Yourself some. He was on an international trip call triple. One or two women has sent his girlfriend a message on social media. This food don't naked pitches. In this shower this she told girlfriend that some other females and she ain't got to prove. Cold. You 'cause you his. So he all he wanted him to do share with over house. Check, the temperature of his girl to see how he doing because you know they could tour. So you know he managed really mad tripping. Got Over. There she signed. and. Then we come back I'll tell you all right part two of your responses coming up at twenty three minutes after the Hour Steve. Subject the best dessert I ever had. We'll get back into it right after this you're listening to. Morning Show. All Right Steve Let's recap. Today's strawberry letter subject. The best dessert I ever had. Set up in here man. Cheat known again and everything she found y'all you know what you cool. You don't told him man don't get sloppy he gets sloppy. He added the country on the trip girl takes a pitcher him in the shower posted online contacted girl Farini go this him right here naked in the show. He calls you. And say, Hey, do me favor Dis- what happened? Go over there and just see if she I just can't talk to see where she. I you go over there. You Walk in the House ready and yourself for the worst. You walk over there. You say, Hey, look I everything going you I. Do. Call me made a bad mistake. You know I won't get involved but I reluctantly went on over there. You got there. She wasn't upset. You say code. Basically said, you know stuff happens. So you. You relaxed tensions all few. You Ain't got to thank then crazy to say. We ain't got to discuss it sheet and cooked. She could. You. Set Out. y'All eight dental. Komo drank a whole bottle of wine. I only need to win, but you drink a whole bottle of wine. Feeling good and she could tell. She got up from the table stood up this how this with. Slit her dress. Slid out her driss straddled you in the chair. Boy. Not, here way wishes rattled you. She had their phone behind. As she recalled, she's y'all stayed in chair. You had desert she would put new worth. Thirty ever straight work I'm telling Mondo best is served. Hey. Bitch. Because she was clowning for the camp. This the grail pay-back. Graham is the highlight reel of people's lives that she got you and everything you say, and she just working. Dog. Boy. And you in saying all the things you can't tape. Yeah. Probably says some took that this why he wants to fight? Is better than Coz ain't it got. It. Like this he'll. Eat ruined family only so far. Thought your head. Steve Well, that ain't no excuse. The girlfriend recorded y'all have six table shows y'all never left the table. She sent the video my cousin takes payback. How most full to fix things occurs he wanted to fight me now let me help you this this on up. You gotta get your as well. Yeah. Yeah. That's already mode that coming. Eighty eight not talking there is no way to you. Twenty nine son listen to me. There's no talking your way out of this you're going to get. Star China Today also you need your wave noted. And called now, give it up 'cause you would hope his behind if he did it to you. Would anybody had to me But now here's the deal Holyfield and Roy Jones junior delayed day fight to November 'cause obviously. War Joel's need. More like a fighter, I mean Yeah Tyson no Roy join. Roy got kicked his saying November. So he can look more lack of fighter right now he like uncle hurl. Roy Jones around the middle section. Again you hear. Somebody. Almost forgotten you forgot to remind. So, even they moved a fight back, you could avoid him for a while. But when you see him, you need to be already sick. Don't wait on him say take to your mark none of that. You need to be already set sir. Hey. On be ready. He going to. Take the relationship is over now I know he's mad because they had sex and he saw it and all that but more mad because it's his cousin if she. alka. Oh Yeah. That's what I wanted to say. Oh He dan mad. Dream. Okay I got you pay me back but which you. Dog after all I told. Everything you know about me. So since you know been cheating, you decided you was one because our promise you in the video. She didn't have a working holiday. Own and no way surly. Nothing to do with drunk and wish she stood up from that table, instead dress up overhead. Are we gotta go see. Your comment than today strawberry letter. Table I got to go in a row on instagram and facebook and check out the strawberry letter podcast on demand coming up at forty six minutes after the hour girl from the top will be. I would. Right after this. You're listening to. Hardy morning show.

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#1548 - Roy Jones Jr.

The Joe Rogan Experience

2:06:41 hr | Last month

#1548 - Roy Jones Jr.

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Multiple Division world champion should have been a gold medals in Olympics, but they fucked him. He is the great and powerful Roy Jones Junior. The Joe Rogan experienced. Gas. By. Roy Jones Junior ladies, and gentlemen. My brother door honored to have you in here. I've been a fan forever I noticed and I was GonNa tell you that I am very happy to be here for you and for me because I've been a fan of yours but I always love the support that you give me. You always supported me since day one you've been one of the best people can hear talk about me since day one. So I just want to say thank you ought to support for being. Thank you sir, thank you my pleasure. For, sure. I've been a fan forever like from back in the day. You know you know you saw y'all must've forgot forget shit. I remember all man I remember when you're fights were basically executions executive. News some years man where you would just like see how is this guy got a survive and how long and you you had there was a time in your career when you were at your peak, we you had devised this style that was so different than anyone else's very few jabs. You throw a lead hook no one knew how to prepare for because there was no sparring partners they can emulate it. Your speed was off charts. Your movement was off the charts. I think to this day the only person that copy box history that went a full round without having a single punch scored on them and not the best defensive fighter ever. Listen you. Know as I mean maybe Willie pep might have done that back in the day before copy. Copy box era nobody has ever gonNA complete route would I punch scored on? Him He ain't the best powerpoint or he's the best at least. And we know about offense. But I don't argue not just listen to what people say. Now there was a time where I would say like people would say, oh, but he didn't fight anybody I might the fuck he didn't. They just couldn't. They couldn't compete. That's all it was. You fought world champion site, the songs they make them look like nobody wants to forget i. It's you had such a strange style man. How did you devise that style Lemaire? It was a lot. My father was a fighter. Who was trained? By sort jump. In. The think. Some part of the armed services in a way, my father learned a lot, but he also learned a lot of things not to do. So. By learning those things, he was able to give me a very good foundation. With that foundation, my father had roofs fighting Russa's when I was young. So I will watch the RUSSA's all the time because roosters develop a picture and then people always talk about no fighting this that. They develop a pick on their own. Anyway they're going to do that anyway so I would always watch him. To figure out what made one the king of pick nor what made him better than wrist and when I learned what that was it was a few things. I figured out. Once I figure out I start emulating emulating those things in my boxer style. So from fighting chickens yes. What what was the thing that you notice? Well, first ball the one that used it was on top he knew a kid herself for the era. Of. Confidence that he wasn't going to be messed with. So when he fight, he do more faking lot more faint never let them know when he coming off Sunday goats. State, powerful estate same the whole day, and it's like anytime he about he did the same thing he used the same. Thanks same thanks and he often do things that other chickens did not do. But that's God given mandate eastern God gave him that. So if you learn his characteristics are watch yourself all day long. The Way Kyrie and he wasn't around. The we got rid of when CAM around. People say. The people used to think that I was very egotistical. I've never been an egotistical person but what was highly confident person? I'm God's gate. Rooftop. ME. Around guess what I'm. Going to defend my. TURF. That's funny thing to say to a world champion fighters. One of the greatest of all time egotistical I mean listen if you're not confident, you don't get to that place never ever possible. It's like you have to have a belief in yourself as he there's no other way if you don't believe in you. Yeah nobody. Yeah I was a fan back when you got fucked over in the Olympics. God damned. They ruined that. That was terrible. That was one of the worst Olympic decisions of ever seen in my life maybe the worst it was so bad but it was in Korea Right Yep Seoul South Korea in the Korean fighter Yeah God Tam. That was ridiculous. Well he got the gold medal clear and then you see the decision you jaw drops you know like, what is this? It hurt the sport of boxing especially Amateur Boxing Heard it because when you can take a kid nineteen years old, he defeats his rival clearly and you robin it really eliminates the integrity of that sport. Yeah. Still don't go back and fix it nobody to this day has come back and try to fix it. They gave me Olympic orders they gave me the Walker Cup, which is for the best box at the Olympics were. Addiction prediction. How is the best box here now wearing a gold medal? Yeah. It was. It was bad but it also was. In one way it made people really root for you. It was a blessing in disguise and understood that the the the second day I might cry whole first day but second were. After I went to the back and asks Hex XY interpreted X. Him. If he thought, he beat me because if you say, yes, the he didn't know it but he was gonNA. Give nothing. But he said, no, I didn't win but it wasn't my fault. It was the just I shook his hand and I left and I never had never another bad feeling towards him. He didn't do you. Understand. What would put Ryan also realize that Not only were the judges. Not, necessarily they ought to be blamed but what God did was take their negative and turned into a positive. And equipment. Now, it was a big taller remember when you began your career, there was a big talk of your career how you got fucked over the Olympics. It was not. It wasn't question not at all. There was no debate. There's not I never saw a single person that made an argument that he won. It was all you and so that when you began your career, you have a lot of people rooting for you. Yes and that was a beautiful thing. That's the blessing of all me because to me it was God's way of making me not put my life idol but turn me up. Yeah I had no clue what he's doing, but that's why you just trusting God liquid you aetna. I remember when you fought James Toney that was a big fight because James Toney was in his prime and you are in your prime and again you call them with leaping left took man that crazy left hook and drop them when you when you be James Toney like that I think a lot of people had to go whoa like he can do this to an elite top of the food chain world champion. That's what makes a real superior athlete not that we could do it to guys who were beneath you. You can do it to guys who are supposed to be your equal. Love you. That's when you really doing. Now people maybe people don't know you had been active and you fought up until about two years. Two Thousand Eighteen Yep. So you decided you're done. Or were you one hundred percent done or you just hit a hundred percent hundred? How tell me walk me through this call how you get this call to fight Mike Tyson. One of his guys seem caused McGee Tales, McGee, my my partner to the call. So I call him as says, Hey. Might want to come back. He wants to do exhibition, but he wants you to be his dance partner. ME Yeah I say okay well. Let's see we can work out. We've got a lot of different situations going on, but they won't do it in a different format and they wanna do it in a way that you Michael are taking care of and everything is good. Well that entire to be necessarily with the case was but me being Roy Jones junior being covert. I'm like you know what? Six weeks. Right around the corner. He Ain't me and fighting I can get rid of I'm pretty sure I can give a little bit more ready than he can because he's been inactive a lot longer than. So six weeks I knew was Mike Tyson. He's big. Teeter Mike Tyson. Punch but. there. Is No way he can get prepared for this. So I, say you know what I'll take and I jumped on well. Lo and behold. They changed now, why did they change? What was the did they give? Is something about marketing. They told me something about marketing but I don't really believe much of what I mean. I just can't believe because we had September twelfth day before football season starts basketball has started but. People at home with nothing to do, and that's why I was like you know what I want him when I was in my prime so Why not take him now? I mean twelve six easy. and they say, well, we got more attention than we expected to get and this happening that happened. So we want to move man so. I was thinking about it and Dini tool guy he posted something about the new date site. And when he did that, they like what that means that you admitted that you agree to. Didn't. Okay does how it goes I. BE THAT Guy He? No I'll check out of nothing like I'm scared of Mike Tyson Mike Tyson. In six weeks, he had no chance to deal. In. Twelve weeks where he made here having a better chance to deal with me but. His chances are going to be rough, but it could be better than it would have been six six weeks. He didn't have a chance now during the time where you were off where you work. Now when you still staying fit because you, you always stayed slim you look good. I have to work out because I train a lot of guys when you guys for me, I not only just teach them. I. Also give them an example. The best example is best adding did what they don't teach them. Teach them what I learned and what my style was. So I like to be able to demonstrate bags up lead by example so you have young guys that fight in your style. They are trying to. Fight. It must animated. Teach them to fight like me. My style is not in the city just meet. Means that you know how to count everything. You know office you know defense footwork you know everything every aspect of boxing is my style is now the craziness that's. Your individual person right. Your DNA will decide what you do with it what I do is. Shooting I try to make guys comfortable and to give them every opportunity to execute on another guy's mistakes. If I can make you do that and heavy prepare always prepare for the next move. Then that's my style. Your style required extreme physical attributes though. That's A. Well physical attributes, it does require extreme abuse but when you come and watch one of my classes like I got a apprentice over in Sweden, I got an apprentice over South Africa got a few apprentices that I've been teaching. Got One out of Washington state and when I teach them, they understand that yeah. PEOPLE BLAME RAW athleticism but it's not all athleticism. There's a lot more knowledge. Than people ever would begin to understand. Damning. So yet people are huge as a super athlete. No take me back I can go visit or verbally walk into every knockout. Did I got an or every set up to the knockout before it happened sometimes rounds before happened sometimes wanted to have a quick. I can tell you exactly what happened exactly what I saw and why did what I did is that? His attributes. There's no way could be just that. There's a lot of freak athletes. Of course of course you had freak athleticism as well as an insane comprehensive understanding of boxing. But that's what makes it. Great Right. You gotTA. Have a insane comprehension. But what I do have the freak, the freak the freakiness about me is my hands be because how can be this fast F. One years old I was watching you hit the pads holy cow I'll be looking at saying. Is. Now. I mean double triple quadruple left-hander up ultimate how yeah. It crazy. We were just talking about the. War I know it's not fifty one like in the day. No. One was done. Oh. Oh, it's it's different today with a new training methods and understanding that the human body and supplements like people are different but you are always different to tell people like you had crazy biceps but small triceps like you were built to throw. Exactly. It's like if you look at your body when you were in your prime, you would. Get noisy like. Getting. Ridiculous to writing the hookup through your. Way Big. Hook in the game. Yeah that's not that's a serious. Now when you train young guys would do you when you're you're showing them your style, do you try to get them left hook heavy? The way you are do you just let them do whatever their style isn't just teach them what you know about boxing I, take whatever you get whatever your best attributes are, and we work from there I am not God, I cannot reinvent the wheel if you're. But not the wheel the wheel was already made like it is you can't reinvent the wheel. So what I do is whatever God has given, you try to take that and take the next level. Now. You get this phone call you just immediately start training and when you meet, we start training how how you ramping up for a fight like that. I heard Mike say something about he's trainings in the beer for week. Yeah. I wouldn't be what we because I was going to lot already, but I was a sewer person for a couple days. Did you mean, did it feel good to say? Oh Wow. I. GotTA A big fight coming up goal. We're back I was excited. Yeah. Because it's Mike Tyson so it's like in most you say, yes, I got a big fight on on on on roll coming you know but this time I was like you know what you buddy get an little sheep because you are going Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson might come in there and do you know if you've got a particular ears? Jaw you'll know what he might do. So what you better do is getting shape and be prepared for whatever Mike whichever mic shows yeah. When I read that it was going to be an exhibition they were going to try not to to others out. The fuck out here I mean, thank you think about Oh exhibition, but we got whoever asked lives but exhibition exhibition no hig. Exhibition. Judges. Still Mike Tyson and exhibition Mike Tyson who called hands down in the first round of exhibition back in two thousand and four. Correct. So what is your definition of exhibition because? Gone Mike Tyson. Has Nothing exhibition is about no he doesn't have that in them. When you watch him spar his snapping was fights nothing exhibition niche about it. Yeah. They were fights sparring was fight if he does the fight. Yeah. Now, you said that he was always kind of on your radar even when you were the heavyweight champ when you beat John Rees on other person I would've fought as a heavyweight really because he was young as heavyweight champ bill and to be honest I probably was the light is. Who I started By that only junior middleweight to ever go win heavyweight title allergies. Smallest guy come up win here type. How much did you weigh when you? Ruis two, hundred, two, hundred And so. Did you think when you were getting ready to walk around right now now maybe then really now up to twenty. To Twenty, I've been up to two hundred. So do you feel good a. to twenty or would you like to be lighter? I met about two ten. Now this way I wanna be right there. Hands Fast has ever. Still a lot of mobility not too much weight on knees. So I feel pretty good at ten I. Think I'm GonNa. The around this area that's not much different than him because when he was in his prime, he was about to fifteen mean he was a light heavyweight for a lighter rather heavyweight light explosive heavily. Super Super Explosive Heroin. So like sizing doesn't really matter what Mike I mean it matter what Rees because I knew I was going to push been a whole with Mike size. Now, when you decided to go up and fight. For the heavyweight title did you think that was one and done or did you think I win that title May defended a few times like what was your thoughts getting ready for that fight? So as you know me, I'm a man word try to be and I said I wanted to go do. What Bob de but I was going to add a little bit to it because I was also super middleweight champion, which was a division that wasn't around when Bob Fitzsimmons this in eighteen ninety six will some of did was he wanted middleweight title The, light heavyweight title, the heavyweight title, and then he recaptured the light heavyweight title. That's a big segment that whole thing recapturing the light heavyweight title. So if I go up and do what I did. When way title and don't recapture the light heavy title? I can't look you in my in your eyes and say idea what benefits did did right idea part of what he did but the hardest part is come back from heavy and recapture that light heavyweight title. That's why I came back and did it but. Before I deported the hit with division. I would fall Mike Tyson. Because what Eddie, he was young as Champa all tamped. To me he was one of the most explosive entertaining guys you wanna see because you never know what you're GonNa do and it's to say he's I'm going here with him right now because he's explosive entertaining and you never know what he's going to. Mean both of you in that, Nahshom? You know that Song Yeah. Mike Tyson. Roy Jones. Yeah that's a lie. Exactly. Yeah. I mean the very similar in that regard that you both were so dominant over your divisions when you're in your prime that those fights were like execution, of course, why didn't I find take place back then because nobody ever saw me coming to hit back then and by the time I did he was already on the way out of box. Hit Department so. People say I. Think they say someone told them out off, forwarded me in the fight. Wasn't far off for me we've been fighting. I tell people today like they was talking about what's going on with the zone and all these fighters this and man. Hours in today's her. And I was Roy Jones. Sandwich I. Am if they told me what we'll pay twenty, million four per fight for five days we get to pick the opponents I. Don't even whereby peaking opponent Y'all call me Tim would they don't fight will wait I'm fighting it and I don't care who it is. Just tear me win fight and what we need to be. I believe. That's who I am. So when they talk about I would've fought a know if they would be for me if I if might just say. That we put that's how bad I wanted to find him. Then people love to talk though they say stupid shit make sense. But that's just that's people need something to talk about I know. But I'm just say I. I'd be willing to clear it up because I was not offered to fight back I would have been if I would have thought may I wanted to fight my? He's the owner the hit we. Say No. I'm not giving you out opportunity. I'm first of almost mall guy coming up to the HIP way division I don't belong here. Anyway I wanted to do about it. Simmons did prove I could do or see if I can do it costs sugary and try to win the light heavyweight title and he passed out. Yeah. So he didn't win it. So of course, we always want to try our challenge. Also I want to see what the Scott withdrew field cannot win the title am I really debt good a as good as I think i. Maybe I. Am this. How difficult was it to get from two hundred pounds of go all the way back down to one seventy five that was the hardest thing I ever did in my life twenty, five pounds of muscle. Put on my make don't. That's the difference. If you look at you when you fought Ruis, there was nothing to be lost. Twenty, five pounds of pure muscle so that I fight I wanNA pure heart. We Talk Yeah pure heart. Desperate people and I had people even text me call me and tell me you know I, was a fan I like you. But like you a whole lot more now because I realize what you really are. I never knew you had that big of a heart that was a big transition for you. I mean, maybe a bad transition to go from heavyweight down to light heavyweight again, because you could see physically you weren't the same because of that way cut you're struggling and that was the talk of all the commentators. What is what is happening to his body that he's going from two hundred pounds ripped. Down to one, seventy five and then competing I mean you. You must have cut an extreme amount of weight for the wake like and there was this the day before weigh ins or the day of way day before but it didn't matter because they had pulled much muscle off. So you can't. You can't put their bag right? You know what I mean. So I couldn't put that back but was was was so. Ironic about that is that as we wolf He still couldn't get me out because my mask I got off is similar to say, let me because my mouth locked on something you can't get me. OUTTA. My mind locked in a week as I probably have been. My Mind said no, WE'RE GONNA. Get this and I. Kept It. And then you went and fought him again. That's I. Probably shouldn't have Carson my body hidden came back. And I didn't have nothing meant to to get out there. Call people say, Oh, well, he get your heart town. Nobody. So I'll fight again. Sure why not but I had nothing to gain. A little bit harder. So he close is got lucky is called good but I mean box for me though I wind was one of the most impressive my career because it's the first time I've had to win a fight with strictly my heart because your body just wasn't provided with their now when you were walking around after the release fight like what did you? What did you weigh when you start cutting down for the tarver. Flight two or three to three, and how did you do it like what? What? What kind of? Crazy cardio like what were you doing to try to lose all that way? Crazy Cardio's who advocated. On we ever did. I run two sometimes three tasks day chase down Yep. That's on the way I've lost soothes the whole town. Dan what kind of impact must have had on your body? Well, that's what people feel to realize. Now hear kids talk about what we could make way too we. Don't hear me off an old school. Don't hear me on this new school stowe. You couldn't lose a pound. Don't me man when I was amateur while Amtrak? My Dad made me go down and one four to seven for eastern Olympic. Trials. I thought that night I made one four to seven I fought that night I got a guy out the fight I wouldn't into gear I was a hundred. And Sixty five pounds. At fight the next day at one, forty, seven, I had then it's morning. Wait a minute. Ran. All night. Seven, thirty, the next morning I already down to one, forty, eight and a half. and. I said I can't go more. MEDALLA. Y. You can't lose their power. No pattern hair could knoll because he hit me God talked to me. We've gotTA talk to me. How, you GonNa, do this every night and Country Unit is going to be cold UNIFIL rain. You're not going nowhere to go run at you. Might. Not Be allowed to run an air you are. So if you make the Olympics this week, how you giving you in for one four, two, seven to one, sixty, five. Yeah, that's a big jump then back down wolf eight and a half. And you. Tim y'all can't lose a pound or two pounds get out of here with that. So was that when you made a decision to go up. I was already up, he made me come down. Back how old were you? Then seventeen I'll see your body's just starting to get A to. Fill now. That's yeah. It's the I think. One of the big problems with 'em as opposed to boxing is there's a very limited number weight classes I think there's a lot of fighters that ruin their body cutting too much weight in going down a hear about these gas sometime they get so dehydrated, they pass out I had to happen to me before. So I understand I, know how it goes but there's a science it and there's a limit that you should do it too. But you gotTa know the Science and not limit to how far you can go. You don't raisch ration that out. Then it's bad for you here. There's a lot of guys that are very good at it, but ultimately, the damage that it does particularly two kidneys and it's just it's not I wish MMA had more weight classes I know if boxing is the right number because like there's a lot in boxing, you know sometimes it was like forty, seven, fifty, four, sixty, sixty, eight like there's so many weight classes. But there's a good argument that's better and you look at boxing there's so many super fights it can be had to because there's champions that are so close to each other. Yeah. A few pounds here or there is better because it gives a lot more people opportunity to become to become world champions. But at the same time, like you said, it could have been down eight week classes. On strong Bab. Go. Eight we'll come lot somebody's paper champions. They cooled out real quick. So do you think it'd be better that way I know it would be the look look look look look I want from. I I'll folk from Jimmy Week. To, have we always end tyler gene middleweight is because my dad wouldn't let me type one and I knew was going outgrew. Week. So I told her I. Want to fight Gio Franco Rossi early because if I can try fight Rossi now they title cause I ain't GonNa be stated this week. No. And he didn't let me do it but I would titled From Fifty Four already hit we wile. That would been unprecedented of course. I. Would go from sixty to seventy five. I ran out of competition ours just went to wherever the competition after I beat James the awful Pantheon's I think Giving me the God blessed here but Tony Norton's and. Milwaukee contenders really the world didn't know. About it at the word Newt was was like Oh perjure he'll tech guy original sin tight gap. I went. Blue Devil I went to sit in the fire to make bigger fights. Those guys were all bigger than me. But I went I had to go to make fights. So it's like people often I mean there's Guy A. Used to coast Gee I can't think of his name eight Abel Sanchez I sit. Up Time ago and try hundred awards on eight pounds right but Abel, Sanchez. Little to do that, we find sixty now. Yeah. From four to seven, the five. So how you tell me he didn't say, Oh, you did bomb might mccallum a bomb ever gay James Tony. Joan. Jason's career before me and went to. Griffin did so. So you tim, here's a bomb. Yeah. But I, find a little bit older. But like you say look now going knocked out Donald Kirk daughter Curtis that Sir, Don Curry knockout maybe so sad I was a giant Donald Fan and I was rooting for I got my shoes on them rent running around like three miles and I came home and I said I'm never invest that much in a fighter. It was like I lost I. Remember Him with that left the body. Oh, no seeing donald laid out on the canvas I was like thought. Because when Donald knocked out Mkhori when donald knocked out a Milton mccrory remember thinking like damn like he is so fast you know he was he was the Cobra. Cope. ooh, he was so fast and then when he got kayode like. I can't believe this is happening I had to go running I know. For, able to afford a bomb no crazy I mean. To me you. Know Covered Hopkins you know an animal, but you're covering up for what you're not doing because she was good. We say with one we'll wait Clare. Came to him I mean to me teachable out of opportunity. Yeah. If you want to become one of the powerful pal, you can't say John Lewis the greatest heavyweight of all time. But he was no bomb. No, he wasn't behold fear. Exactly. Not. Going to now exist and with two or three. Holy. Yeah he's one up. He's a tough guy. Of course he will very tough guy is just you had the style to beat him. He just couldn't compete with your speed and your fluidity and your understanding of distance. You just controlled that fight gas. Every up every we every aspect of boxes to Jordan's Dan some guys because you're tall, you're gonNa have to pay close. Sometime because they're guys realize you're tall and you know to get closer to their best opportunities, Hagler hearns. So you gotTa Get Close Look Haggerty Yeah took him ahead with try Harry's triangles knows how to fight close to this day he's not in condition to fight closed for a long time because that's not what he trains. Doing well, how ridiculous? Declan it ridiculous. It here was one guy down. It was bullshit. Knocked down all tired career. Yeah. Who was the knocked him down on the remember the name. I. Don't remember the do. One ran was. Wanted to meet road light had been enrolled in. Eventually stopped me and. I heard the elementary pass to. Yeah, I was apple. Said Hip. Because those days were the real days of boxing. Oh Yeah. Almost one champion maybe to move one champion new. Wolves at every week I remember when they started out an IBM and Wbo how many champs you're gonNA have my my. Here's my problem with it I. Don't have probably have more champs but why not make every champ had to fight one another to find who is. Right when I was like I had seven of the eight known available books and all these I have eighth one because I wouldn't go on to Germany to take all my seven bills for that one built and they may rob me because I got Robinson Grip. So I learned my lesson I can't go way over there to fight Darius and I'm the right now he needs to come see me. If you're often the come. See me he turned it down. So what does that tell you? He don't want to smoke. What if I could have got? It could've gotten out of hand. At. Because that's why so I feel like any fighter. Is GonNa be Champ or is champ if you don't want a better way. You don't think this. It should be if you can't someone a world champion, they've really should fight the other world champions. If you're going to have a bunch of different sanctioning bodies, they should if they're available, they should have to fight it every year the east play with. The championship every year AFC played enough see football every year the American early. Sunday every. Like, come over there at some point, we gotta put somewhere. Y'All got to show me who the real man. and. That's what I wanted to do as I had. L. Seventy I. knew of and what would you could have put in? Let on them if they were known Bill Clinton, you can call me and Tim Y'all got a president I need that. Yeah, it was Simpler Times back in the day for me. It was one champion in each week class, but you got to also understand a lot of this stuff happened because of promoters sure because I was doing my own thing I could do I wants to do when I got rid now that's telling you call me. HARD TO GONNA, Fight Roy Jones or you just call me a either called me get a bill. I don't care what benefit is. It could be the National Walmart built. I won't it. When you go back to the days like how many were there was a two-day maybe. David ended. When I the other day Hagler vs Mugabe that was again that was a good fighter. He would ahead with having, there's a time in the fight where he hits haggard with uppercut snap taggers, head back and Hagley just right back at them like it was nothing like I didn't even work. Hegley wasn't in my data might dozen learn things from the kid and well learn from Hagler was consistency. He would same ruining white trunks and have to say Marvin Hagler every time. Yup If. You Fall Haggling guess what you're going to. Get. Headline. Yup. He was. So, disciplined too so disciplined. Yes I. Think he was training for Mustapa. Hampshire. Forget who is training for. But when I was a kid I was living in Boston and was I was watching this thing they had him on the news where Hagler was running down the Cape Cape Cod in the wintertime run in the sand dudes Screamin. War. And I. Got chills. I got goosebumps watching like just that discipline that man ad he was never out of shape. He talked about the whole training camp lower. Yeah. Every day every day every day. He had what a mind he had. I mean he just was so. It was just so fierce. You know as a champion but wasn't. What I liked about people like Marvin he was so consistent that. Not One time did not make weight right he woke up to meet you. He wasn't went down to meet you right. Meet him at one sixty he'll. He'll get. What's your name? Is One sixty come on. Yeah. Act that when he fought sugar ray and I kinda gave it to him. I, mean I'd have to watch it at the time I'd have to watch it again now as an adult but I remember when I watched it back then I thought he won the fight and he just said that's it. I'm done never came back went to Italy started making movies. You ever watched some of those movies watching but I see him every now and then there are Larry did in good shape looks good. Talks Great. I mean he has no problems at all. No, which is amazing. It's beautiful to see someone get out clean of cloth and have a new life. Yes. Yes. Yes. But for me for Marvan I thought if I looked at it as an adult too I thought the I should have been called a draw at least a best in Understood. Why should one because sugar painless pitcher before the fight the I'm not even supposed to be in here right right. So. He did. He's GonNa get two points for breath head on was going to get. Yeah. Because sugar painted a picture to the public the I'm not even supposed to be here with his most. It's always a problem judging underdog. Me and so that's that's why in the fans he also knows how to play with the crowd. So sugar use his brain and got the decision that night. But if you look at the actuality of the fight it either a draw or you probably could have gave the Haggar but because he was champ. I would've said it looking at it as an adult I would have probably scored a draw but both of them put on an immaculate fight in like it was a beautiful fight for me because sugar came back and like I said, he painted that picture like even be in here and he was really phenomenal for. Five years so he made it look like. I'm defeating odds and everything he did he it to such a high level that it made it look like he did. When you were coming up, did you watch a lot of films of of the Great? Lakes. Well, only watch a few guys and I can tell you a lot of the guys that was I used to watch Salvador Sanchez. Get because to me, he was the best offensive minded guy of what a tragedy that guy died. Years because my dream fight this this get. So pissed off about face not having like right now a May because coffered and spence aren't getting into the fight one-up what am I dream fights wolves sill patriots, versus Salvador sent both of the featherweight champion. Making. The two featherweight champion to best at the division I want to see them lockup. See who is there because I love both of them. I Love Pedro's because of his Bolo punches and because he's not say he's real more but dirty inside ring right. But Salvador has so much offense I wanted to know how is he going to keep off of him with the opposite? And the incentive to a unfortunately was killed in a car wreck and that that that just blew my make a fighter week they'll. Probably besides her that was my other make mega mega fight to meet the original horns led. An all time. Angelo Dundee's in the corner absorb that. Kid. And he goes out and wins. Goddamn epic who that was epic especially, because hearns at one forty seven could hit people and knocked him into another fucking dimension. To her credit he do that one, sixty eight. He did it. person ever to do it tour. Ring. On other president they knocked down after Monday sues he's he face planted to my Co.. Coal he had that snap because he had that wide torso shoulders. Third talk that punches. But show you how much how much mental it is she we will take the puts nobody else is stepping the second thing. She dropped sugar few times second Mike I fight. Should we took all? He took him because they had such A. That was his right. Yeah. Well, he had known that this was the the fight that he had to win for greatness you know and there was so much I mean it's hard for people to imagine how big sugar Ray Leonard was like people don't know the sport of boxing when he was the Olympic champion and he was I mean was it did seven up commercials something? SPRITE. Him. He was huge and this was when boxing was on ABC. Sports. People don't know there was no cable back. Then it was giant he was America's superstar if he will and Tommy hearns was in passing killer Sassan killer. The two of them getting together as one of those who knows fights. You get them occasionally today. s He just hurts me about the Olympics right now. But the mood that they did to me to lose the integrity the follow ranging from the Olympics Apolo Howard Davies Junior. If me, these guys were incapable to me because they set a precedent for me. They may want to represent my country one day at the Olympics the pro and do they did become somebody? Yes. They draw me a blueprint to follow me Muhammad Ali all up George Foreman Day draw us a blueprint to follow that limit blueprint. Miss Something because that was the Academy of Empty Sports Olympics with the highest level of MTA sports. If you can get there, get there represent your country yet doing something if you're you're on your way. Have Rob me. Well, remember that was like the doorstep to professional stardom. That's. Mel Meldrick Taylor now whitaker. Vander. Holy. Remember the one class they had Marcus Lynn. Yes. They hit a hiccup cleo Randolph yes. What a class even even a guy from my area Clint Jackson was on that team and everybody was following that those guys lefty Olympics and when they were on the podium with their medals and then they went onto their pro careers eddy he's going to send sixteen Okay. Another great team the but that D- watching those guys leave the Olympics and go on to superstardom. That was what you wanted to see. That's our. That's the normal trajectory. was you look at you go from the Olympics to superstardom Yasser and now it's like. We don't even have time know who are made it to no one knows anymore. But also like the Olympics have gotten I, don't know if you ever saw that movie ecus did you ever see that I don't watch many movies a documentary that Brian Fogel did on the Olympics it's a crazy documentary and the the documentary starts out where he's a cyclist and he wanted to do this race and do the race clean and then get someone to show him how dope and then do the race doped and see what the difference was. So he does raise clean and then he employs this Russian cat. Who was responsible for Olympic doping in Russia and they show he shows them how to do it now along the way. They find out that there was something at the Sochi Olympics where a lot of the athletes had the they had done something where they built a hole in the wall and they had taken the dirty pissed snuck it through the hole in the wall place it with clean Piss, they figure out how to work. So all these athletes that were supposedly clean were on steroid dirty right and so would happen in the end it. So you see that and you realize like. What happened to you see what happened in the in the Beijing Olympics it's so politicized. It's become such a big thing for the country that they're willing to do all kinds of genetic aim to win judges like if those judges that ruled that against, you weren't bribed I would be stunned. Of course, they had a peak they had to be. There's no way I mean someone told them to. There's no other way that makes any sense. But it's you know it's a problem anyone that amateur sports like one of the things that drives me crazy about the Olympics is how much money and brings him. But the athletes don't get any money nut none zero to let sports. A lot like college sports a lot lower college sports and college sports even worse maybe right because you can't even they can't even say, Hey, we're to up in an apartment and you can't nothing nothing. Yeah. Meanwhile, they're they're making billions had. Its dirty. It's ridiculous. It's really dirty. I mean I don't know how they should distribute the money, but they should distribute the money somehow. I. Mean Come you want top athletes coming into school that that's going to add just lose credibility then why he had to not be able to make money off of that too. Yeah and if someone wins the Olympics, if they dedicate years of their life for this one goal and they win should make some fucking money. Now here's a man and robbed and they got nothing food so I got route twice. You got double robbed. Literally I got up twice all the people that put that on they all made a shit load of money and they do it right now they're making money off of it right? Of course. The Olympics now with no audience because that's a it's a weird thing now with the UFC, it's a weird thing. Now with boxing this these fights with no crowd very strange very strange to me I. Don't know how. The crowd meant so much to me that is like that's why when they mood fight off like. I don't know y'all give him a chance to get even more ready now when he's the big guy and we got no crowd so I came look over there and see somebody saying, yes, go get him. You I mean so. One hype man at least a few of. have. Got To have a few of ties us at least thinking get that thing going you were fighting. Did you ever look at all really autonomy? That you enjoying yourself. If I'm not giving you something to make you enjoy yourself. Then wasting your tear, I shouldn't be out. That's how I feel. If I'm boxing for U. S. with anything if I'm doing something for you and I'm not making you excited or habit that you're doing, it did always Huger Well at the end of the day, it is entertainment. So, if I- entertaining, you waste your. Would pertinent certain time in your career? You do other shit to entertain. You thought you played. Basketball game and then fought that night who's ever done that before nobody nobody nobody. I mean, that was part of the thing you had to do to entertain because you were so dominant of quite you had to get people to pay attention in different ways. Just destroy, People WanNa make them feel like there's an opera there's a chance to you given this Guy Champ. By. Basketball game gives him a chance right because you know you've usually to play basketball Julie shouldn't be rested like they should be in twelve round title fight. After fight, this guy went on to win the Super Way Tara ahead of three two year who was again Eric Lucas from Canada. Okay here for three years but the vital this after that game after I fight. He went and won the soup wbz super middleweight title and hit up for three years. It's funny. It still bothers you the people say you didn't find you don't moon. Be Back. Got Twins to augment with Joe Rogan shows now arguing remember when Jordan was was it is it hall of fame? What was it? The is when he got up there and he's just talking shit about all the writers talk about it over the years. But I think that for all the greats. Something that's that's pissing you off something that you're fighting against it can't. There's no way you're going to have peace of mind and still have the drive to lead to conquer the way the all time greats do the all time. Greats have to have a chip on this show. Yeah. If you don't have a chip on your shoulder, then you're not going to be ever reached the heights or take the measures that takes to become an all time. Great. Yeah. Me I had to chips they rob me at the Olympics. And I had a father that separated from the I know. In my heart didn't want me to succeed without him. So those are my chips and because I had those chips. I can't move because if I lose, he went means so. I lose he went because he said, I can't do it I in my life I was talking about all I needed a guy nothing against my dad auto needed got so much to me repairs you get to a certain level, but got took those roosters got to getting Charlie Campbell and you would know try Campbell 'cause box beckon the MT boxer but gosh showed me so much to Charlie. Campbell that to this day I still speak to Charlie Campbell because without Charlie Campbell, I may have never gotten to be worried really tried to Cam taught me so much about charisma. That my father could never have told me. That it was unbelievable child chem be all my father's fighters as amateurs that we his weekly as. Easily almost every time because he hit charisma now they were better than him. But he had charisma. He beat him with their charisma. How'd you Kerr's because? He believes in itself he hit confidence he knew how to do stuff that made me love watching him. And he wasn't the best puncher. He didn't have boxes give but his motions he briefly everything he did even though he was stepping, he has sharp rough with. Demi and to me off the wall he beaten. These guys that Almighty So they learn the same thing I'm learning, but they can't handle kind of charisma 'cause my dad won't allow them to beat them people. He won't allow them to perform with that kind of covered this yesterday. So I do work he doing 'cause airway he doing to what we doing now gas how'd you incorporate it? Start doing stuff he did. A little bit of. Attack figure out. There is still some gratton found immonen. He deal fighting to show the year breath control outdoor. Brusca. Wu. Tang to Kim would do stuff like the Hudson image. has pushed nearly as effective with nearly as effective as the sound was. But he kept on be in tune with the sound. So it made him look way better than he really was and he wanted to fights against these guys are. Don't do that. After. Copying some of it now. In to master when I met him, it became hey of. Area. Really what? Charisma somebody can't teach me and he'd be my dad if I. To me these guys older than me I'm twelve they seventeen. He being. So. They are be better what we're doing tonight. Because they're older and bigger than me. He'd be nil. No. I got to get debt. So I got it. So was it also like you obviously had animosity with your father? There was all. These. So you're looking for other ways to do it to know I had to find other ways guy had talked other ways if guidance speak to him in other ways here. Here's the real deal what people don't understand nothing to give my father's just kind of our distant right when I lying is this why people that nature is also a Bible right when a lion get a certain age they kicked him out. He gotta go. You gotta get your own. Because this is my pride. and. It's kind of me my father were. So it's like. At a young age I knew I going to have to go because just waiting shaped up you understand. So going up watching even these guys and watching before me, I, watched all of them get to the age, but my dad would never lot would never allow them to be as competent and as. Charismatic as Charlie Campbell. Would because he did not allow it 'cause boss he's the ball he was in control of everything, but he ain't gotTA fight nobody. So then after the seventy six Lympics, God gave a second confirmation. How Davis junior worn the veil Barca I mean he was the best part of the Olympics. He probably was the only one them go melodies that then become world champion. 'cause it did wait wait too long. So he waited so long that when filing for Jim Watt, he couldn't beat Jim what. Because in Howard Davis the fire head that they his dad defies deal deal but guess what he didn't fight what? How does He understand me. My second confirmation that when I get old enough I gotta go. Yeah you understand so. I start understanding like I said, nature has always been my Bible. So people always say, why are you love animals why he loves chicken wire? That's where I learned God's teachings from God made those animals and people can't change Demi you can new them. But when you knew them, you chain to a whole nother animal and to me in society sometimes that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to numerous. So when it numerous, we don't fight bic will that's a giant thing with men today this cantate toxic masculine bullshit is what I'm trying to tell you the Middle Newark Yes neuter when you neuter a horse he becomes. Get he only he'll fight begging them walk right he care more damning. So it was like if you knew he becomes. Nothing he care no more GonNa fight me he ailing. Fill. Ain't got no. God gave you took it out. You feel me and to me that's. Emotionally mentally, would they try to do this without fiscal doing? So that was a problem to me my also hit and people say, well, why are you so? Against what goes on world to me that's what he's trying to. But what I learned is GonNa take you down that road to. I heard when I was a kid, right? We Will Hunt Squirrels Squirrel. There'd be some schools that have a penis but no boss. cause. Bitter. Balls off the dead Daddy. Did it did happiness about in from ten to twenty five females? Every time one of them have. A little babies, he goes Biton at all the meals. Because he wants competition I don't listen but you gotTa know what you got noticed I. Get it. So this shows me. He can't do physically doing i Washington, do it to all these other guys who told you about for me? They can't beat. Charlie. Campbell. Getting's. Kemba stood. He ate better than them he ain't stolen. Punched them but in his mind he's cut. In their mind killings 'cause my dad has made them. So he to beat them down so low that they had no real fight baking them in the Monday gotta be second to my father works. I can't be that guy. The world, you never seen a getting route award and breeding. Daming now you see some fast giddings because they just fast naturally and but they're not gonNA rule the past because once you cut the ball. He's no more mayor. Dissolves like. I'd be saying. His night nothing personal Nobel care you do what you want to do. But for me I couldn't world champion. If I let my father meet me kidding middle any mostly So I could not stay there and become a getting like I watched them do before me. And expect to be Roy Jones. During that. You know today it just couldn't help. That's a difficult balance with some trainers, right? Because some trainers were fighters and they're tough guys. Yup, and they don't want the other gas past him. Yeah. That's a lot of one of the reasons why a lot of fighters don't make good trainers and that's why a lot of father and son relationships don't work with. The father don't let the sun grew up. In order to stop it from growing up, you got almost tournament to get. Yeah. So he'll go for anything and not fight you. Usually works out in the weird. It's very rare that a father son fight coach. Combination. Works tinkle his dad do a good job. Yeah. Well, his dad is on unusual cat his dad told him. You're GONNA just dance for two years like what they might have been more than two years. There's God gifted yeah. Well, I like a lot like joe cows academia would not gifted these guys never boxed but they may world champions out of the the new they've seen something. They knew what it took to get in there. The fact that he told his son did to take up Ukrainian dancing, and then you look at Loma csangos footwork it's off the charts. So God gave Him a vision before got to with going him. We've way before it happened. He gave me my father saying vision just my father's personality wouldn't allow him to enjoy the fruits of that vision. Did you ever resolve it with your father? No. Never know he's still alive Oh. Yeah. Wow. Yeah you talk at all. No Damn. That's gotta be weird for him knows now we. Stand the lying and I'm like I. Understand. Sons Roy Jones junior yeah. Boxing trainer and your sons, one of the greatest of all time and he doesn't talk to you. That's gotTa fuck with you. Well, he don't talk to you because you don't want to talk to him right. So it's not like he don't he he wouldn't talk to you if you want to talk to him, but you don't want to talk to him. You don't talk to him. He not going to chase you down to talk to you why would. I couldn't me personally as a father I, couldn't I couldn't handle that I couldn't Ed none of my kids why didn't may raise my kids with I was raised? So me all my kids we talk my kids can talk to me about anything I'm I'm like you as a father I couldn't handle that either but sometimes there are sacrifice but sometimes a guy like you has to come out of a situation like that you have to fight your way through the struggle of being dominated by your father to become your own man and then that's one of the reasons why you're such a bad motherfucker if I didn't beat that I never would have made him boxing Shallow Grady's Tim Tam did the one thing that I never could do? As well as their sure has walkaway. I thought God. Had Me destiny great so I had walkway. And Look what I'm GonNa. Indeed. What does it feel like after you ve already you're already all-time Great. You're already hall of Famer and now you're getting back into the ring again like what does that feel? Is it exciting? Is a new feeling. No right now got. I got telling you gotTa go to Roy Jones during RJ feick store. Dot Com to get a shirt like. OXYGEN FIGHTS TO DOT COM to Mr Y'all must've forgotten. Exactly. So it's like for me it's a whole new game. Now you gotTa do a little bit more promoting stuff. You gotta try to do a little bit more media work outcome talk you 'cause you always supported me. You've been wanting it if when people have have known as for being Roy Jones Person I can't you if I would do it. But having Mike, Tyson, fight for us to talk about. What better time to come see your favorite. So the always I've been trying to get him but I say I want to wait until we got something interesting to really talk about. We people you good people. So I wanted something big when I came in now get some. So having this Mike Tyson fight. has its advantages I'll do the timing and all was a disadvantage, but it does have its advantages because now we have a great conversation I be fearing I, listen I appreciate it I'm GonNa talk to you anytime. What is it like though when you see like now holy thinking about coming back he's training hard Oscar de la Hoya who that could be a fight for you to like if you decide to keep going with this someone who's more your size as well yeah. He more my size but. He looked at me like allocate might he's he's to be. Well. He Fox a middleweights ready for Bernard. You see that that's that's what that's fine. The Middle East so yeah. The different than me and they're the different Mike it's like. We look at it. The true fact is that. If you ask people and you can pull it up right now say look at this guy, this guy just got this. At the time. Who Going GonNa get again Mike Tyson again, Roy Jones again. And they'RE GONNA get Roy Jones Again I. Do. So what's crazy stuff? Did that how in the world not only do like basketball game fight met them in, bring him to the ring he got. Radio City Music Hall. Where Jones got so much stuff that he will win to be. Mike Tyson, will be right behind my tax cuts from knockouts. Are Unbelievable You so is that that's the two most. Entertaining guys over the last two decades without question without a question. You said, you learned that move when you put your hands behind your back who knock out when you put your hands behind your now James Toney oh no no no. Kidding you're knocked him out and you said you learn from roosters two. That's right. That's right. Who else learns shape from roosters and just? To me but see, you gotta understand this to leave it more today I'm also gonNA come for movies. Comfortable comfortable tag style cranes dial. ditoto delivered all these different things. So I said. Let me see acne incorporate the roosters in masta. Of Boxing Do you think this is one and done. Did this Tyson fight is one and done? Does it depend on the outcome or you just have to focus on the fight right now and then decide what else is going on afterwards, it really depends on how it goes because. You know I I'm like this man I think Mike is Awesome. Person and Mike has had its ups and downs in the world I mike is really no he he is Mike. Understand me. So you don't know what Mike you get right against him. So in exhibitions you prepare for this, you can prepare for. And know anything can happen Mike. Hit you cut you on purpose in thinking happy you don't know and you try to get back and he may. Stop it before you get getting big. Dinner Say A real fight here yelling to if I might get he dan if that happened Mike do you understand he got played on the say because you don't do. Anything. I. Ain't get no get back if you. If you don't come from. So now if we go straight up on this time is good that I'm cool. That may be the end that we might be make turnout I wanted if that'd be great you understand me. So maybe a great opportunity we'd be both may put up great performances and might call it. A date might be too Tad Tuck by left was called the own. That may happen to but It already probably depend on the outcome of this. He has damage because. When you small guy. And you find the guy that you know is. Over here today over the Mar-. Then you just got prepare yourself for whatever because you don't know what he may come. You understand me so I got to be really. I mean I feel safety of phone calls. By biting you there. Yeah. That's the thing about my. Own Greatest Fear you don't know what he might do think he's a different human. Now you know he was he's I've talked twice in podcast I talked to him once it was about ten months ago and wants to just a couple of weeks ago. He's two different people from those two times saying that you must. Do, intimidate ten months ago he was smoking weed. He wouldn't even work out. He City couldn't work out because he didn't want reignite his ego and then he said his wife call him fat and then he started working he said I got on the treadmill started doing it for fifteen minutes. Next thing he knows two hours and then he's obsessed again and that ego has been re reading. Says the. War reignited his ego. So. But they called in exhibition. Case. So anyway, he looked shredded. Oh, he is reading. He's good. He's doing right the. DB's ain't play you feel so. Thankful, good in, we'll have to do it twice. But if you don't like I wanted to and they say y'all won't do a real one day. Give me some tears go real tens and would you do ten rounds? Not Tina? Twelve ten or twelve won't have I can't I want I want see they got me doing. Eight two minute around that to minute that's to his advantage everything is. His advantage why'd you agree to it? I would at this point the fans so excited about it. I. Did I wouldn't want to put pull the rug from under the fans then they tried to suit me, right? Yes. It's not worth. You know what I'm saying so. I'm going to ours that. On might figure out a little bit different I'm at work a little more low faster-than-expected two. Yeah. Two minute rounds is different toy different kind of rhythm totally different kind of. Weird that they decided to do with that way do you think they decided to do that because the September twelve date? It was only six weeks for him to prepare no, they just had this. They just decided this last week. Really no chance of only about about the week. So it was originally three minute rounds. I, thought I guess rigmarole. Like I said. I it's it changes so much on me. May I mean I think the WBZ came in and said, they WANNA put up some kind of titled Some They WanNa cut it back to two minute rounds. It said something about that or see and shabby a senior fight fatigue they were to fight and they feel like that's a safety measure. But what they don't realize that keep fresh all you keep my first and more dangers daddy is for me. Get Mike unfinished quick. So we can get out of the danger zone. Senior. He he an RC I think for a true. True exhibition with hit gear and big clubs but they were so exhausted afterwards that they felt like that is what could inhibit somebody's help heart. How much the train for this don't know making the two different things. So I don't know why and they met but like I'm telling them not not right for me because small guy perhaps my best is the best thing a component. The lower he goes the more whereas the better my chance on all you keep him strong fresh the more dangerous it is for me but so they didn't discuss this beforehand is not a part of the contract they contact you and say they're dropping it down to. Say The commitment driving down to minute rounds. You can pull out commission said our. The Commissioner you've dropped down to. pull up or you can fight man. This is the commission's idea where I guess they said there'd be came in and said it along with the commission so over. The top. WC, Tokens Commission so I. Put, my point is. That's not good for me. That's good for him. If. It'd be a man y'all giving him if he won't. Yeah I wanted to be three minutes going to be around. Three minute route. It's just better. It's boxing that's it's traditional. It's what it's always been. Guess what do They do. It turned back home. When the tonight on bad things happen. I heard you and they turn that light bake off slowly. But surely they turn their back on and I'm GonNa say I did WANNA be this person but since y'all come to me like this. Off thought some. Trouble. Listen I'm excited about this fighting but now more excited about. This is going to be a gigantic fight to I. Mean I've heard so many people. That are just casual boxing fans that are excited I was cooling beginning but like I say once you you can only kick around so much then the hook comes out. I see myself turning green? Well, you always said that that is like two dudes inside of you. Right there's Roy Jones, junior and RJ and they started on waking. WAS RJ HE DIDN'T WANNA BE F- twit. When did you realize there was like a second person I've been with my whole life. I've been my whole our tried to suppress that person because that person will end up in somebody's penitentiaries. Watch not. He really think about acuity about nobody thinks. So. Do you think that this you develop this as. A way of is it just always been inside of you or is this how you dealt with certain situations in your life wake you had to like shut off parts of who you are. I think our real men have it just never tap into it. But. It never had been pushed to that measure which is why say? Society tries to make. US gilding. Because in a man like you. You got kids. Somebody's kid and you thought. Rg coming up. Against Him. So it's always there. It's just that you try to keep suppressed. Try. To keep suppressed but jingle kicking me with so much. The he coming. At once he started coming guess what he did like a pit bull, he has no off switch. Who Was it that far he fought Dude Jack Guy Shorter. Guy I. That's right. That's right. The second fight RJ came out. That was in the Nile Asian of course. Yeah. You just hunted him down. Of course. That's. Yeah. See can destroy hackles words Silk Industry can destroy. So the first fight what happened the first fight he got injured nor I hit him when he went down Wendy short right so I couldn't do down to tap again and I thought it was going to start Right now, we've. Tapped Mcginn. All crash on his head face. That's okay. Okay. I'll take disqualification with now. Your heart if I mean when you Did they give him the title. Of My first loss. If it weren't for that loss I posted we'll have a of. Dumb first. Loss. So. Now Rounder Olympics he. Gogi. So you know how I feel comes secretary right. Now to get robbed twice or three taps and we talked about it Olympic. Committee. Robert Mugabe rob three. NASA to get how many times is R. J. Come Out and fight just at. Just one time because he's talked talked crazy out there I'm nowhere you get my title down face down mit how you you can't talk to me like didn't, and if he would left me alone, it wouldn't have came up. If you just left alone, go to second fight, I would've part of beat him but I wouldn't have beaten debt because. I'm not that do I suppressed at that. Get he filming only start talking now you make me be a person I don't want to be and I'm glad we friends now we don't know we ain't get no beat them more. We cool. We should chicanes he understand I understand what it's like at that time you can't talk when you took my bill why US face down. Talk about me to. Know. No you Oh always showed great sportsmanship and also control. Remember when you try to get the referee to stop the Panza fine. He will. You looked the referee come on Stop A. What, what which want me to do to referee wouldn't stop it and then you just finished requested. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was devastating but that was an excellent example of you be good sportsman of course. I don't. I. Don't I'm not that hurt people. Yeah. That's why try not to hurt people when you en- Gerald McClellan Gerald McClellan who was at the time a destroyer I mean he was he was the man that people thought of as being like a great challenge for you and then he had that fight with Nigel Benn and wound up getting. Brain injury and just devastated was never the same again how much did that affect you? Because a guy who was your peer? who was a man that the many people have thought was going to be a rival to you and you guys were eventually going to have a big super fight. Yeah. How did that affect you affecting me pretty bad because being new Jeremy were friends and he gave him he wanted three to split decision over me and amateurs. So he was one out looking to get that one back with got a little bit back when I. Agree Jim, but I still want. A Organized get. So definitely looking to fight him down the rule but. When that happened when I saw that was happening i. was the only person that said that he wouldn't win that fight. Only person and people called me the next day as it. How did you know he's not going I say because He's good. He's a various strong puncher, but punching is all the Niger really has nicer does not believe in boxing skills. Niger don't care about boxing skills. Now, just what he's, he is a dog destroy you go onto his country, you his backyard and you're gonNA fight him just like he fights. That's not a good. Recipe if you're me and just what I they will be, I think it's GonNa be quite that bad. I think he's going to end his career but I thought he was gonNA end up losing to nitro because of the fact that he will fight the role fight, he would fight the style which shines only style that Nejra shoddy when he knocked Nigel down the first round ninety, nine percent of fighters would have been done when he sent through the robes, it looked like it was over and that's what Jerry was doing. Everybody was destroying NPR everybody destroy. What a puncher he was and what classic cronk style fighter is tall long dude serious power super hyper, aggressive, both hands. Nigel Benn could fuck intake. He almost had a comeback recently had some shoulder injuries sidelined bad puerto by and this what we say Miss Right now if it was in today's has added nights never recovered from the first round like because today with no crowd, he had nothing urging BECO-. Would that crowd he had home if he gets if he has breadth in him, he better get up and get his. And he did just any survive but the crowd made him do it, and then when he started taking into Gerald, I mean that was crazy Gerald just emptied his gas tank trying to take him out and Jerry was also another guy who cut a tremendous amount of weight. Of course, he big for middle huge. He probably should have gone up to light-heavyweight even before then. Yeah, yeah and that's what most people thought. Yeah. That was that's to me one of the great tragedies of boxing because it's very rare that a elite top of the food chain world champions prime is cut down like that. It's really only been a couple instances where puts people on notice again as to why fighters asked to get paid properly botanic ordering especially against another elite fighter. because. Tomorrow is not promised nobody when you couldn't have ring anything can happen at any time nobody suspected that that would be John. McLennan's last fight ever. Yeah. You understand you know but nobody suspect not damage to say what the guy that week. That had happened to open our New York he fault Cuban guy might whatever his name was. I can't even remember last name. Nobody ever suspected that would be have last I remember that. You're talking about but I can't remember the name same situation as like you never know boxing. Every fight. This what people see will why you say that you don't know you know you get hit by somebody like Mike Tyson anything can have to right size is not just an ordinary poetry right? He one of those guys that could do just that to you. So you should know what you're going into. A should be ready for that because this is Mike. Yeah. You understand me now for me. I would have given them, I, fight for live. I feel like a game. I be really daft mice by so if you want me. Down I ain't tripping at all because I knew that that is a probability. You feel me. So the that can happen to anybody and I know captain me more than there was somebody that's dangerous Mike Tyson. Problem with me is. Why I love what I love, why do? What I do because I love boxing. So. If I got boxing on my dad happened man. What is that we the we'd like to go. With probably to other radical. GRANDPA. If I. If I went that way I'm not at Ryan Jr, stand because I knew that when I started box right I, don't that people get hurt in. Some people don't make. So if this, how you got to go You. GotTa note it. But if you ate that game if you ain't that committed to what you're doing, then you shouldn't be talking to me about box because that's what box needs. Yeah. That's a great philosophy to have gone to combat because nobody gets out alive in this life. Can leave some way but a baby and you WanNa talk about a man who's been dedicated to craft and. Your whole life has been dedicated to his craft in sport, and because of that, you are universally recognized as one of the all time best, and I ain't can't mall what it is who it is when Y'all say let's go. It's me go. This is a legacy that you've left like no matter what happens someone can never take that away from you. You've accomplished. Crazy Shit. Thank you, brother. It is what it is. Right. Era to men I mean there's so many. So many amazing fighters error I mean you you really came up in. Boxing is in a good place. Now, there's a lot of exciting champions and a lot of exciting fights to be made but I mean, you're era was one of the the golden errors of boxing. Yeah. Well, you know what? The thing like I said, what we're hurts me now. Like I be one wanting to see. The best fighter fight the best. Like. Right now, a good fight. This tap is to fights tanks about the fight lower ching-kuo fighter. Really good. Damning put the guy. His opponent hasn't been proven yet Lopez but I think he's a really good prospect get. He does get into this fight iggy be really interesting. Yet at the same time. This tells if it's too early format because he still has tab to grow he's been in it. He's young but he's a Good looking prospect. If you're meet good-looking prospect the guy takes fighting, just forgive me I don't know names I don't remember names that we're but. He's a pretty good fight or two and I. Don't know that he to take tanks power cost tanks of these guys that comes way too. So he'll be big. All right. If he's dead be fighting. It makes it very difficult to take those hamlets tank the when he throws. So it's GonNa. Be a good fight to I can't wait to see that. But there there's face tap and I'm looking forward to brass deal say that right now. The best out there besides Roy, Mike. Is Cough versus fence. I give I agree. Yeah. I just. Not Making it happen I, don't know I'm amazed spence came out of the car accident phased. So that car flip like that Jesus Christ God had to be with him something was with him that's. Head to be wicked high de something. Terence. Crawford to me is one of the most interesting champions live today beasts mole he like he let me. If you want it come and get. To us to I, mean, he fights as good from Orthodox. Yep and when he decides to switch it up on guys, you see the look in their face where they get confused. Fight to three rounds one way and switch it up and you see like. That was fantastic switch one thing the tip profit yet. Crawford just he's got a mind for the sport. So this you could see when he's putting on a guy, you know he just he he's as game as they come your third third. So those are five I wanna see I have some interesting guys. I. Got a Guy 'cause you during. I really want to see him. I WOULD WANNA see him with one of the child brothers I and when we get that thing that'd be very competitive fight your training eubanks gs and those shows where he's at. And I think that fight to settle. But I think he's good enough to know like you can't down champion can't just say, oh, he'll beat the I don't do that inbox them because that's not my thing but we do WanNa fight this champ which right now the WBZ chip middleweight is a Japanese guy and we need to fight him to find out. Get US real title thing we should fight the Charles. Have Unification title, fight a me. Then he should fight Canelo to find out who demand. Canal GonNa stay at sixty eight or is he going to go back and forth between sixty and seventy? I think is going to go with the money fight which is more for you know just kind of freelance royal he'd been I would signify signified sixty I think that's comfortable for him is kind of reminds it kind of reminds me Kennedy is dominate the area standards so as you get lucky. Enough to come get high enough in the area he had take. He's interesting cat because what he's learned from like particularly the Floyd Mayweather junior fight. If you watch the way, he moves now like his head movement so much better than it ever was before is beautiful. His defensive skills are so much better than they've ever been before. Yeah. But to me, that's not the thing that he needed to learn. Because you have to look at the path. To teach you about the future. So if you look at history who see, Chavez senior. God. Listed there with mayweather. But. Who you'll beat Roger because he start chasing Roger at the weekend he didn't wait and try the outbox Roger because he's never gonNA outbox Roger. But he's taught chasing Roger at the. Hey Cheese Roger all night, Raj complete ragged the he would beat robbed but you Julio did it to everybody. But what I'm saying that's the way to be a guy who's a perve boxes So if you notice, then why don't you take another into chase floor from round one? Right you don't go out and try to outbox Floyd Mayweather. I mean. Think it. That's true by Maguire and try to shoot somebody to go out shoot labor nor not. Not. Right. Now, I'm not stupid Larry Does Pass Right. Oh. I understand. I think he was a little overwhelmed because that was a big fight for him. First real super fight and he's in their with Floyd who's a defensive wizard. Yeah. been you've been processed. She was fifteen. Yeah. So you probably got a little bit more experienced Florida's tab as professional boxing goals. So if you really. About it. You don't outboxed boxer didn't floyd him suck. A lot of weight to I think he needs to get done like fifty two or. Like I think sixteen pounds heavier than floor. So if you sixteen pounds heavier than him, that tells you that you've gotTA use sixteen. pounds. To use it against Mitchell. Not, saying that, he would have beat Florida Florida's a small gap, Lord knows how to. Change that that's a good thing about floor also is an elite fighter who knows how to make adjustments. But for your best for optimal chances. Yeah. You gotta go help from around one like down did now it was my daughter didn't Florida I fight Gave problem. For. They own. He Punch. He's biggest. Don's awhile man you don't matter. That's the oldest all chance. You're not gonNA outbox me with Komo. Risks Losing that's what I'm saying he wasn't at that point wouldn't rid of their so to say he's a pedophile. We could say that, but he's older five or two. So of course, the older you get the better you supposed to get right but we can't necessarily say he's a better fighter until we see him against the Guy Floyd off. Fixed because. He had the same problem with our air. Sunday lower okay. Laura is you hit the floor. Areas Sunday lower is a box, right so that fight that fight was a fight that some people thought could either way Yeah. I thought me being one of me I. Don't mean you got better. Than me that you face in different types of competition, right because you do that. And Hannah? That's Then we got better. Yeah. He's a great fighter. Don't even wrote to me he in my top. I Like I love Canal I think another one out there but we can't say we always quick to say that he got better after the floor of. I'm not going to say that necessarily he got better because you're GONNA get anyway breakfast he's going to grow up. De he was when he grew up most people when they grew up, they get smarter. So the better. But I don't think the fluff I made him better because he still had didn't show me. They made the necessary adjustment to come back and beat Florida if you're thinking or even fight. For him because if he dot pressuring floor, he's never gonNA outbox Yeah. Styles make fine I am saying yeah. What did you stunned by the Cova fight was Kobe took the fight at a time I. thought was bad for him because he took it route one other fico and it's like to me. I don't think Coppola took the fight with the intent to win it. I think he felt like. I get a chance to fight NEDAL AUGMON. You think. So I felt like I don't think I can see recovered over me. You try to Buck Hill. And move. Will it little talk you out of the week? We talked him. Is the way he should. Stop me with the first time because that we had to make beat me and he turned cova the question tend to a boxer I think sitting cove love the the words always been that he drinks too much. I hit that boredom Santa's covert nicknamed crusher right? Why would you come up to week classes? Make you alleviate? Yeah. Deviate from where you are. You normally called the crusher. Now you're GonNa go to the box all of a sudden for God come up to. No. I. Know. I mean I love to two. That's my best my boy. But I feel like he fought their own fighting. Casino. Yeah. I don't know if he was physically capable fighting any other fight. Well, but like I don't think he's to me durables used to be. I. Agree with that too but to me. You must fight. The right game plan or you've lost before the faced, right? Yeah. True. Well. Your fantastic commentator man. It's one of the things that got really bummed out when HBO died. I can't believe they took away boxing. That, I don't know why HBO did that I just don't understand well understood what they told me was that they don't like the fact they are not going to do something and be mature can be number one day doing. And so I got I, can I can kind of understand, somewhat put them into number two. I'm just saying they want to be best dissolved. Cloudy ESPN plus. Is If they want to be number one. Well I mean I, don't know man between you and with Jim Lamp. Kellerman. Fantastic. You guys did in. The the commentary team was unparalleled. I'm best of the best ever. That's what I'm saying. But like I say I just feel like maybe they were used to having the elite champions. Because camps became dispersed. Maybe. That was out but to me I feel like. I felt like. They. Just want to be maybe people that bottom up this. I don't know I I don't know either. But it's a sad state of affairs. Hurt me I tell you that it is still to this day sky. I mean they'd been in boxing for how much did it? Hurts me to this day? and. It's amazing that no one has brought that team back with Max Kellerman to this day is not doing boxing commentary I'm aware of doolittle ESPN does he he does look it up but who's where's Jim Lampley? I don't know but that guy those two guys or two of the best guys can work with and gymnast has a memory that is unparalleled in about I've ever met in my life this Gat can look at a paper one time I remember that whole page almost word for it I believe it I mean I ain't never seen in my life now he is as good a play by play commentator. As ever lived yes. Sir. Phenomenal HBO was Pretty Awesome. As an organization because I built my career there HBO, and then to be able to build that commentary career that was so fabulous for me. So they were really I mean it hurt me bad that. They got boxing because that was like. Man, that was really. The Kingpin of Fox. No there were there were uncrowned. I mean undoubtedly, the the ones wore the crown. Do you do any commentary now not to my contracts contracts over to December? Oh okay. So after December I can do other companies here. Are you talking to anybody about doing hip? You do that I haven't spoke to him about it I'm sure after ends will go speaking of people but have spoken to anybody yet so. How'd you get involved with Russia? How'd you become a Russian citizen when I read that? I was like what is happening Roy? What are you doing? Matt do so much. My partner got a movie coming out right that call for kings and Mike Tyson in that movie too. But I do so much. So I was over at Russia doing fights, doing stuff and. I never realized how big I wasn't Russia talk born over there. In Russia is like a Roy of nineteen ninety s really. Yeah when I go somewhere. Is All hail the king. That's That's how much they love box. Wow. So to go to Russia to see that, you love that much. At I hate the cold. As bad. As I hate, the cold to be revered that much is always tell people. I always want to be that I'm wanted. And if possible, but wanted to the big key and tier tear tell my kids don't a girl that you won't did good at once you. Should treat you better. SMART. Words right there. So that's important loves and appreciates me as the US appreciation. Love me to get wrong. Naps in the population Russia knows me really yes. So it's like when they said you should become a part of a to is that it's not to say I don't like no it's not like it's like, why can't we all get along? Why can't problem? Well, one of the things I was GonNa say is that you haven't really taken any grief publicly about being a dual citizen that I've ever seen. No but there are several restaurants that are dual citizen. So why will give me grief giving him grief? True I mean is it is it Racism, is it? Hey if I get grief, what could it be because there are several Russians over here in this country right now that they Have dual citizenship so I can't. Why can't you just say so so how did he come up? To me got to arrest gap bottle up to me and say they love you so much. You should look at becoming a citizen here to. That why it's not a bad idea I never thought of my life, they will be possible to become a Russian citizen and an American citizen. As they can't be a bad thing and people forget that we fought together in world war, two. Yes. So is that we're not really enemies. We enemies sometime politics to make enemies, but we re not enemies and if we all children of God then while we enemies or how can we be so you split time in Russia how much time do you spend their how you go about spending by six months a year? They're really so you hit that yeah I do. I hate it but I hate it and my, and I met with meant to mention that out several fighters. To have Russian heavyweight, Abbas Swedish. Middleweight. Swedish coach guys pilots in South Africa I got fighters everywhere and I got a team here. I got a Andrew Glenn of Bank Kevin Newman Political shady hit him acronym I got a lot of good Mike Williams junior i. got a good stable of young pilots up and coming Brian Perello things. Last name is Bryant at a really good day the Glenn Hagler junior really good stable to fight of them trying to work on. A financial and I'm trying to get them to understand my thought process in boxing. 'cause they understand my thought process, the our the hey kirk. They'll understand my thought process right they're not going to. Bryant was damning so that you have to understand the thought process in order to be able to really pursue a career doing it Maui. Is. Different about your thought process thought process is some of it is already understood before I now. Understand me source like certain things. That you do. You know you have do's and don'ts before you go in. Entertaining when I come out to fight. If you got a bad JEB, you won't live the night. You will not win tonight. 'CAUSE you're not competing with a bad jail. Net because the fruit punch you learn at box if you're JEB as bad, do not be your. You understand me if you can't block this Hook you not beating Roy is the Dole things still before five-star alcohol you're. Jet And you ain't GonNa. Black. This hook you ain't going be. So. Do you think like for young fighters? Well, first of all, it's got to be an amazing opportunity to train with all time great period to get into your head and did to for you to explain to them how you approach situations. How you approach fights. How you approach stepping into that ring. You approach dismantling opponents that's gotta Rub off on young kids yet does try to do. Some, kids get some kids don't, but my goal is to try to get it to all get in all of them hit at least dot thinking the right rich. I'm thinking right direction now Gaza there's Jimmy at gotTa make them thinking right direction. I see most guys won't. You understand me Cuttak is that I got a guy. One of my guys often are named James Wilkins. He works harder everybody if. But I gotTA teach him. There's not about how hard you work is how smart you work hard To halt but outsmart. Not Getting A and you can over train over train ed you're not getting better because you're not work as Brian. So so many boxes have now going to. Basically, strength conditioning. So my friend Tom Kello has started channel. and. Tommy the channel. His thing. He teaches boxing. Youtube Channel Yeah. How do you say his name Tom Yankee Kilo? Why eight Yankee El. Okay and his team has a thing where he's talking to teach because he realizes. There's not a lot of coaches left and boxer. So He's teaching boxing the right Weeden. Damning With that being said. He's help give back to people because if you just go on Youtube and. Look him up your theme, but he got a lot of stuff on me on that right now. Here's. Okay, I've seen. He's those those little flippy pads like they're different, right? Yes. Do you like about those? Well, I think 'cause they don't hurt your hand. If you're a big puncher like I am you can get your hands with guys holding hands their have, but he give a lot of not at she teaches lot. He teaches the sport right? Wake Dan me. So I like people like him because he during his stay in the way it's supposed to be. Well the beautiful opportunity that people have now learned shit on Youtube that just was not available before you could spend day after day day watching youtube videos, instructions, and watch an old fights to, of course. Some of the best now, did you going to get? Yeah, we're having somebody like him also teaching it helps you a whole lot. Out of all the old fighters, one that really stands out to you that you you enjoyed watching up shoe. Robson probably wars. Most but my favorite part of all times Mamadali. Morelli. Mohammad-ali Shula. Shares would be my second third mom analogy. Should we seventeenth century and you? Mix mini wait because I got my top three qualities from those three. Would you give from Mohammed, Ali how to be a showman and had to have class inside and outside of the ring? and. How to out think opponent which your mind before you beat him with your V No one played better mind games in him. And he was doing it back with what he did. He listened Fi. Literally. Almost not going to let him fight. It was crazy like your heart your blood pressure is off the charts every time and every time. Before yeah. But he was a unique human being he was about as unique as it gets I always two point two people to say, if you look at Mohammed Ali you gotTa Look at Mohammed Ali before they made him take three years off you watch Cleveland big, cat, Williams fight and I'm like Fuck in heavyweight that moved like that that. Nair. Now, that kind of speed that kind of footwork main commodity to vote work precision everything. Fast. In the middleweight. Literally, literally, no bullshit literally faster than a Middle Way and a full blown heavyweight with length and reach egg powerful and everything couldn't deal, and then also as a human being outside of the ring I mean a cultural force just I remember when I was a kid, my parents weren't boxing fans at all but when Muhammad Ali was making that comeback fight against Leon spinks, he lost his thing. So first time and then the second time they're. Fighting again my parents watched it. We want to see him when the title back and it wasn't my parents were hippies there were boxing fan but he stood for more than boxing. He stood for what's good in the world he's he stood for rejecting evil. He stood for you. There's a man who gave his career WanNa fight in Vietnam because he thought the war was wrong amputations. Damn. But that's the second reason I accepted the Russian citizenship. Because mom showed me that we live here as one we should live as individuals. We should live here as one everybody should be respected looked upon equal here's Dan and because I did that, that's why accepted. What they gave me because they look at me as equal, not that I'm an athlete, not box not back but then equal and that they love what I did they love what I stood for and they would love to invite me to be a part of their culture as well as CENEX. That's a beautiful way to look at it. You, talk about a country that has a great history of combat sports. God between wrestling MMA boxing I mean, there's so many of these up and coming boxers now that also are these great fighters. Happen to be rushing but everything's curing overnight because because connect- people can now see things differently and you know you can learn like I say you can look at this watch old fights over and learn what your favorite either did a what attributes were all what you like about what made in. Great. That's right to look for what may people like you understand this? I got my left body shot committed Mustafa Muhammad Bet was Eddie Gregory. Why Wow. Pre speaks exonerate. Wow. Got My little Shafran. It should gregory also know that it will stop became a great trainer. You better. But how? That's old school. Yes. Sir and I got my defense breeding. Around I getting hit from Wilfred Beneath best defensive fighter besides. I think. He was pretty special. Throw would've? Good defensive too but he wasn't detestably with those guys were Yeah. There's I mean there's so many great to study and learn little bits and pieces from I. Mean that was one of the big things that Mike Tyson did. Of course you know there's just spent a giant chunk of his use watching and and that's what people understand about Mike Mike is very well versed in boxing. He knows what he's doing. He knows how to solve a puzzle in a boxing also anything else in life he knows how to solve any he needs saw a boxing ring people don't give him. Enough credit for no. They don't I mean Mike Tyson is he's a fascinating human being and his mind is he has things that he focuses on and that's where you find out who he is when he talked about the things he focuses on because he knows a lot about the things that he focused exactly a lot more than you ever ever expect. Yeah. He's he's intense when he when he talks to you about the things that are interesting and important to him, you see that intensity that's what it all comes out. Now you fifty one now. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRAINING? A fifty one then training a thirty one F one, you need one or two more days to recover the third. Hurts it hurts a little bit longer at fifty one than it did at. Thirty Differently, you got to do things differently. You have to take days off a little bit more frequently you would have wanted to back when you were thirty one. Well, I didn't need Dave all right all time at fifty one at about two or three days you had sailed cut him hold up minute because if you don't say, okay, you might Wanna go but I ain't going to day right? So, are you using any technology in terms of like monitors to know just going by feel I'm old school gold school. Do I go by field I feel as they get to today I. Don't feel it today. Get it tomorrow. Are you using any new school recovery methods like like? A using sauna are using ice punt is is I did a couple of little things that try one thing that made me stop outdoor thing called protect thing and they said I got to stop because he got something that didn't work. So what is that pertain thing like the giving us for my knees basically and it's supposed to help get back in my knees. So wasn't working, it was working, but they said there are things that may not pass the test if you take a. Can't do that in the most I couldn't, but I really enjoyed it because it made me feel a lot better but they say you got to be careful that called I guess some something on there may not some forbidden. So it's called, pro tackles called project. See what is that? Okay. I'm curious about that because my knees raw fucked. And I got a couple of people that can help you out to knees though because there's another lady down while live Dr Deborah, she can really help you knees out to. She's also she gave a shot of with to protect, but she has another part of the she uses. Her may pass tests. So I not take it this time though 'cause hours try Disney's hit the doctor told me that I can't do it again gotta stop now what kind of testing doing for this fight they say to do a rigorous testing soldiers like they would do it a normal fight we're going to get tested as though we originally athletes as though we're fighting a regular sanction fight Baba's art into my house phones vodka. Yes. So you can't be on any testosterone replacement they'll growth hormone peptides. No nothing just. Years of. Life. If. You Ain't got it in them. Fit One year the life to bed you ain't getting it. Well. It certainly helps. You had. It never lost right we were talking about that before we got here like you never stopped moving now stop that's a good thing for me. Yeah. It's when we were kids. We looked at fifty one year olds. We thought they were suppo. Ella grandfather. Triple F. Lightning speed. Fifty one. Yeah. So just the days off. is, different we don't. Well, I don't go as long when I trained what's a what's a typical? Typical session is now twitter thirteen to fifteen rows. Max Us be was sixteen to twenty four miles. Now, it's like twelve to fifteen max and some of those low-impact rounds because you don't want to Overdo it. Too much tear. League. Tendency arm again. Mr Hairs of again you don't mess up with it does not happen. So now do you have a person who's making your schedule or do you do everything yourself I do limited myself got a few people have out. No. More wife helps out some but she does. This she were brand as well. So she worried I am she worried dot com makes Jacek does you have to stuff? Yes. Thank you. Yes. You can put I. She wanted Dot Com. So she helps you scheduled to be put together as she trains everyday. Really. Felt. Good but we. There is very little chat get embrace every challenge a strong confident woman you are Ya. Now. What about when you re briefly talking about strength conditioning? Do you do strength and conditioning like that? You see a lot of these fighters doing like the circuit training high intensity you know. Look kettlebells. Liberal the bitter that, but I don't make that a vital part of my workout. I have been doing it in the mornings like three or four days a week. I've got a friend named. Lief usually brings his guile. When we go to work, we do at three or four days a week and We don't make that a priority because. I'm not a weightlifter. Football player boxer, right so boxing skills deal should have to be the depowered you wanna be shaped to, but don't mistake fitness. Over boxing skills, some people now prefer fitness Brian Boxes Skill but we want to get ahead boxes give. A little bit of fitness he won't beach. Yeah. The most important things, efficiency and skill. How did that happen where this this thing got confused that way well. I. Think what really happens a lot of foreigners started picking up a little bit of boxing skills to. And they were always superfit. Box. Now, they had Internet, they can get the box skills so they can pick up one two little tricks. Put it with that conditioning and you've got to get beat up. All night while when you see a guy who's like super strong super fit in dominates people with that. It tempts people daily way. That's the that's the way. Archer bitter beef is. Super. Strong Guy Fucking tank killer. I love watching that guy, fight. He's been down twice to do so he gets war. He gets in wars but that fucking guy. Seek and destroy. One of the all power. Power Punches. Ever I mean I'm a giant fan of his and I love watching his fights because that's what you're going to get. You'RE GONNA, get seek and destroy. Every fight s see the problem is in our country we don't we not open minded enough. To be able to see good feis no matter what race they are because if you think about it. Of. And be bought to meet you ball would be a sugary temer type fight. Me because there is. He's so jammed guys can't freaking put and they both. If even yeah. It's why I just think people maybe don't have the understanding appreciation of boxing as a whole as they used to back in your day. With, more closed mandate. So well, it's just it's unfortunate because he's I think he's like thirty seven now. So He's you know he's into the latest stages of life is in his prime still, but he's like you'd the outside edges house he thirty five about so but still you know. Really from thirty five on one unless you, Bernard Hopkins. fucking back. Again, but that guy speaks to discipline boxing skill. Right of me. That's what led Bernard Hopkins Savage Left. Block from skills not not not jess. Condition Box Gills along with. Conditions I remember back when executioner when. He fought Felix. Trinidad people weren't already counting amount there. He's too old and you think about he'd knocked outfield turned out. I want. WanNa say he was like thirty six and back then and that was just the beginning. That was to me. He went on to have this incredible career post thirty six and he won't tell nobody truth ever but it can't call it before he did. Ask Me. What should he do? 'cause he didn't want to fight Mcginn to in a sense, but it wasn't really the money that he wanted. Told them listen you could be all those small guys. Go down one to fight. Day, day still the world be named. And you kiss him what he did exactly that. I know he went over to him by the truth I told me. and Ain't got no reason to lie to you. I did I did like I told Tyson fury that if he just took five years of his life and dedicate back to boxing, he beat the majority of the have with out today because to warrant their own. The, he can beat. He's midst the better than most but he got a dedicated sales to the sport. Right now well, it's funny that you know when you talk to Tyson fewer, his father told them to not take the first. Yanti. Wilder fight he said you're not ready. He said you you haven't fully recovered physically from all the years of drinking and abuse that he's put on his body. He just you know after he beat Wladimir Klitschko in one title, he kind of went crazy for. Open about that about his issues with alcoholism and mental illness but his father was like, do you haven't come back yet? You're not all the way back right so they have that fight fight ends in a draw crazy fight. The rematch Jesus Christ it was like the seen him take deontay wilder. You WanNa talk about a hard puncher Deontay. Wilder is one of the freaky EST punches ever seen in my life. Freaky power with with the right hand. especially. Yeah. freaky. When he knocked out our tease without right hand to the forehead just flatlined him. He was like sitting. In the fuck is. He just. Power but. Tyson fury's boxing skill, his boxing skill, and the fact that he heard training was sugarhill CRONK fighter before that cronk trainer and had that super aggressive. In your face style and just really use those boxing skills and got super aggressive in the rematch and had deontay on the back heel. Made thing and when you're not as powerful as Deonte, you have to think of other ways to do it. And the fact that when they Tyson fury saying, they happened with CRISCO did not putting down. Here they gotTa Punch. Up Ride that takes a lot of the power away from those good right hand punches. So if you have a good Joe, frazier type George, Foreman Type Hook or Ken Norton Tape Hook. Then you're going to be in trouble if you gotTa Punch up here right hooks did deadly up here but right hang up here and takes off of. Law Gravity if you don't know that there's something. I was just amazed that he got up after the twelfth round I was to I was too. I truly were when you know what a crusher Deanna is and the fact he went right hand and then left took on the way down and then went like this 'cause like it's over and that's what really shocked. They're put them in a state of shock for. Fury to come off floor. Yeah. Come at the way he did and come back and win the rest of the round. You'd never had nobody that Tim before his life, i. No guarantee I believe he did it guaranteed never had nobody in his life to do him like testing period did that is like I? Think that's one of the greatest comebacks ever around without a question to have him flat like I thought it was over I remember watching at home what? The front of my bed going Oh twelve round stopped him in the twelve deontay two, hundred, nine pounds for that fi up which is crazy. Yeah I. Mean he about as light as anyone who's ever fought for the title and title Bene- title holder and then also you think about how many fights he won by K. Ko he won all his fights by K. always have one for there. Heard him though because he never had the box. So. Now, he don't know how to boxing go that way he owned. This week knows how to go this way. He never had learned box go that way, and that hurt him we met somebody that can fight going both ways. Gross way ties and. Like this second way. Part of what this straightforward yes. Well. Yeah. What would you? What advice would you give Deontay like if he came to you if he's listening this because I've I've heard that floyd is interested in training him. But if you came to you what what advice would you give to him? Well, we go back to learn how you our. Developing our left hand because once we developed a left hand, right? We, don't need that. Operate. With develop net left hand we developed a left hand make it become a weapon before the right here now it's hard to be the left hand we right to stop So how you would concentrate on lefty away right away how much time would you give him? If you said like if we have all the time in the world, it's up to you to pick when the next fight is. How much time would you like to see him spent working on something like that six months six months. Six months and nobody would beat him again. They have a hard time asking but it taking six. Would you want him would you want him to do with his foot work? One of the things about? Dante's he throws everything into his punches and sometimes, and that's what we change. Well on the left hand more on the left hand right now he don't think is a killer. He does Jacob. Looking at Kiel with the right we've got become do make him diverse. You got to be the left or the right, and you make everything used unit. Everything if human use everything of unit then is not good for him. So to focus on one punch can take everything out game that one were we going to do now? Now and his struggles with backing up and moving back what would you do with that? Would you have them concentrate angles? No. On Rye, we know how to fix it to but that's part of that chip right to how it used a left hand. They left hang on our to go every direction whenever we need to But the left hand is most important left hand and. Feet s defense. Now. Do you ever reach out to fighters fighter like that? Have a loss? No. Now off all our tried to reach out to woods. I. Forget the Guy's Norris will a nurse was about the fight logo because I knew it will be a good fight. In a I was going to reach out to him, but he has transferred any reach out to him, but I would if he would accept that because hard fight for him to fight and I know Leonardo is a good guy but he had a chance to win the fight but the way training to fight it took all of. It's it's interesting because you as A. Multiple Division world champion but also a commentator when you were doing it for Hbo you could point out little things right away. Yeah. Did you ever have fighters come you and thank you Thank me me what I told him told him. They need to get better at Timmy. I made him a better fighter that they listed county in southern mistakes that they were making. So often I can look at again, break them down right away. It's also got to be crazy for fighter to be fighting and I mean I know there's a giant amount of them that were huge Roy Jones junior fans, and now they're looking over you're talking about them while they're fighting that's gotta be a trip my Guy Andrew think it's Andrew Murphy and they ensure Andrew Last Navy but Andrew he always says they said I'm so amazed deal. I'm here taking instructions from you. Brian says it to soldiers they always? Happy, due to be. So I got another kid named mocked up Gaffe Mobile Alabama, and Waylon Wayland my next door neighbor fifteen years old. He's going to be a bengals tooth Oh but they love taking instruction from me and I enjoy solid. Well, it's obviously you enjoy in for them. That's first of all. It's an amazing honor for them but also it's got to be so motivational. Yeah you know I it is and I thank God for them to really see me still getting active at two one not like, wow, he still does it like that so. Now. We understand what you're saying because how can we be slower than him? He Fifty One We can't do it fast. So we got problems. Yes. y'All got major issues. Well, it's it's just beautiful to see how much energy. Enthusiasm you have, and that's that's really what life's all about right is it is by having energy being a positive force in the world and just helping the people you know if you do that, you're doing the right thing if you're not doing that in your almost wasting time. Why that God gives you life. You're not gonNA help next person. Beautiful I love it. Roy Jones, junior November twenty eighth. I'm going to be watching. I think I'm GonNa be their God. Allowed to go I just have to take a cova test and I could sit I really appreciate that would love you to be the. Youtube channel to soon. Hope you'll look I. Know what that is and I will promote that for. And I'd be bickering. Let's do it sir. Roy Jones junior year. 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When Everything Falls Apart

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix

00:00 sec | 3 months ago

When Everything Falls Apart

"The NBA is back and after a long strange were finally into finished the weirdest basketball season of all time and SL podcast have a front row seat join me Chris Mannix on the crossover NBA show and Ben Gulliver on open floor every week for our takes from inside the bubble. That's right. We're inside the bubble and the best analysis and news on the NBA mad finished subscribe to bolt shows anywhere. You can find podcast. This is the sports illustrated boxing podcast boxing a look inside boxing with sports illustrated's Chris. Interviews analysis and everything going on in boxing, and now a man who I wish was called the Boston leader. It's sort of like getting punched in the face. maddox. Part. Welcome to another episode of the SL boxing podcast. Odd. This episode got a great conversation with keep IDEX senior writer over at boxing seem dot com keep and I talked about the latest in the Cannella negotiations. Paige? Fema Lopez, he is balking at top ranks offer to fight facility Loma Chango. We talk a little Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones and Are, we buying an Adrian Brunner returned to one hundred, thirty, five, pound division all that more with Keith is a little bit later on Carl Frampton. The former two division champion. He is scheduled to return to the ring on August, Fifteenth Carl his preparations for this fight during pandemic as how he feels about Jamel herring and the possibility of fighting Harring for one hundred thirty pound title a little bit later. In the year. So stick around for that great talk with Carl Frampton. Quick Housekeeping note if you like this podcast, there is one very easy way you can support it head over to apple podcasts post a comment, leave a rating. It's simple. It's easy. It's free. It's the best way to make sure that we keep doing this podcast week after week. That's it. All right onto my conversation with Keith addic-. Your Keith Ida is here senior writer boxing scene Dot Com friend of the podcast recording from his basement in New Jersey. What's up teeth? Christmas going on. So you were just telling my office in New Jersey. But Yeah, from money your office from your office where you didn't have power right? Is that what you just like the storm took you out this week. Yeah just We didn't have it for about fifteen or sixteen hours came back on early this morning thankfully. But I bet your phone still rings and Reno still calls absolutely. Then that never stops as long as the phone is functional that never stops you know. That's my guy. Go on. There you go. There you go. Rick. Reno boxing scene. All right. Let's jump into a few topics here and I want to begin with Kamilo Alvarez and we are now into August and the scheduled date for connote a fight his return fight was September twelfth and I guess is still September twelfth but that's looking less realistic by the day you've got opponents out there saying they're ready to fight camello from top level guys like Callum. Smith to lower level guys like J. Quigley and Toronto Johnson meanwhile there seems to be some kind of standoff here between zone and golden boy you Ed Greg Smith the lawyer for Canal Alvarez coming out and saying we're just waiting on disown to fulfill its obligations. Ospital Hoya had something comparable to say what do you make of the drama which seems like yearly drama with Canelo Alvarez? Dramas the right word Chris I think both sides are frustrated with the partnership at this point I, understand it from both perspectives I can see point you sign me to a contract rahm supposed to make this this amount of money for each fight if you have regrets about that contract, that's your problem not mine. So I see it from that perspective I also see from zones perspective in that if we're GONNA pay you. In excess of thirty million dollars even if they've cut the fee a little bit of than, it normally is still going to be in excess of thirty million dollars overall to pay his opponent him golden boy? They're gonNA WANNA fight better than Toriano Johnson Jason Quigley. Not No offence to those guys. You know they need something better than that. and Sergei driving chang-chol courses off the table now because he's fighting Jamaal Charles. I would like to see him fight Callum Smith as I'm sure you would. It would give canal at least an opportunity an opportunity to legitimize himself as a one. Hundred Sixty, eight, pound champion. Callum Smith is undefeated. Of course she didn't look great in his last fight against John Ryder but. I would like to see that above anything else at this point that's available. You know I was interested in seeing him fight Billy Joe Saunders that's now off the table what Billy Joe Saunders gets up and down for his levels of competition and I think he would have given Canelo reasonably good fight I. Don't think he would win I don't think cal Smith would win either but I think both of those fights are at least interesting. But from dissolves perspective if they're gonNa pay this kind of money for Canelo. Alvarez, they're not GONNA pay for low level fights just to keep him busy in effect us. So that's a real standoff right now and I know the fight on sure you feel the same way Chris the fight is not going to happen September twelfth. there is no magical reason for this to happen September twelfth I mean he fights on Mexican Independence Day weekend because they draw big crowds in Las Vegas. A lot of Mexican people come there. Buy Tickets to his fights have a great time. They can't have fans of the fight. So it really doesn't matter if the fight September twelfth or October nineteenth or whatever it might be. I have a feeling of fight will be October November whoever he fights And it's going to be interesting here because it's getting ugly because as you said his. Attorney is making public statements against zone criticizing disown I've heard from people internally at the zone that they're. You know they want a good fight and they. They've given them enough money where they feel they should be able to go make it happen and figure out. What do you think is the biggest obstacle to making the Callum Smith fight right now I assume it gets money but how significant do you think the gap is because I'm with you Callum Smith is Maybe, not a super fight, but you can make a strong argument. He's the top one, hundred, sixty, eight pounder in the world canal is going to return one, hundred, sixty, eight pounds with that secondary title that he won off Rocky Fielding Callum Smith as recently as this past weekend has been very public about wanting that fight. I. Mean How big a gap is there between what Callum Smith wants and what golden boy and by extension zone is willing to offer. I think the gap is small enough that they can close and finalize the deal. Ultimately. Believe that Callum Smith will be reasonable about this. I think he he's not gonNa make anywhere near the amount of money that he'll make to fight can all hours to fight anyone else? It'll be substantially more than his minimum know more than twice what is minimum is? For his contract with that, he's Eddie Hernan in. Metro boxing. Sophie is going to get double his minimum with the standing that we are pandemic and some things have changed financially with some Revenue Stream is unavailable at this point I, think Callum Smith will be reasonable and I'm not saying he's being unreasonable you WanNa make the most amount of money possible for what will be the biggest fight of your career. And he has some internal knowledge of what you get paid to fight Canelo Alvarez because brother fought him of course so so he's not looking to get shortchanged here, but I think they will come to an agreement on this fight because honestly I don't see zone and I'm sure you've heard a lot of the same things Chris I don't see zone approving opponent Jason Quigley, Toriano Johnson, or anyone like that because it's just not the type of. That is gonNA bring subscribers back to the full or satisfy subscribers who've maintained frozen their subscriptions throughout the pandemic or whatever. So they need a fight that's really going to generate some buzz and some interest in alum. Smith is just the type of opponent to do that and I have this argument with Sergio Mora all the time Sergio believes that the Mexican audience will tune into Cannella. No matter who he fights and I vigorously disagree I mean I think you can't just throw Cannella wild they're against a vastly inferior opponent and expect his fans to come back and watch him by the hundreds of thousands. I don't see that happening. So I think Callum Smith. On September Twelfth dicky probably want to give it a little more cushion to promote an event like that, and maybe you know cross your fingers and Wonder if by October, maybe November, you can get fans in the stands and get that revenue stream or some of that revenue. Stream. Back Drift, but I think that's the fight that ultimately has to happen when it comes to canals relationship with zone gold boys a part of this as well. I think were they all really screwed up is not making the GALOP can fight last. September. I mean that was the fight to make and the time to make Lofton was coming off a win over Steve Rolls He. Knocked him out. He had some momentum Kamilo adjust outpointed Danny Jacobs. He had some more momentum making that fight in September would have satisfied and obligation that golden boy has to zone to make that fight and would have gotten disown cal back about that fight because that's the fight that they need to have happened on the platform you need to have Canelo GGG Lofton three and. Somehow winds maybe Cannella go off can four down the line. That's why. These two fighters into the fold that it didn't happen in September I think is bleeding into all this. Now in other words if canal would fought goffin September, I do think it's just my opinion I do think that. would be a little more lenient in who he fought during this pandemic in September because that fight had already been provided for them. Chris I. Agree I mean, honestly, there's plenty of blame to go around. But it's utterly ridiculous that we're still talking about that fight not having happened. The third fight between his wife both of those guys got nine figure contracts. From. Cannella much younger fighter. So obviously has a longer shelf life even though he has a lot of fights for a thirty year old fighter you know still has some physical prime left he's. Biggest. Star in the sport. Biggest active star in the in the United States anyway the biggest Love can obviously has star power zone, but he's thirty eight years old longer. They wait for this fight I think the more it's to mellow Alvarez's advantage. And I just can't believe that we're still talking about this fight not having happened. It's it's it's incredible Again, a lot of blame to go around zone should have gotten A. John Skipper should have gotten it in writing that these guys would fight. I mean, there's no. Unfortunately, that was a mistake that was made. If you don't have contracts at stake, they're going to fight each other you're running into the situation and now you have. Gennady Golovkin demanding that zone honor is contracting and from his perspective rightfully. So He he's GonNa Fight Camilo Meta, which is a fight. No one wants to see what he's going to be paid to an eight figure some for that fight. That's not good business for zone So I understand why they would want him to fight Nello instead. But he's standing his ground on what he feels is an agreement that could be honored. So. So here we are still talking about this fight not happening. It's incredible. It really is because you know the older glove can gets. I think the less competitive fight will be. For dissolve on it's it's not so much about the outcome of the fight. It's about what people think about the fight going into it right? Because that's what drives subscribers people to watch it. I mean the Urban Cento fight was a fight of the year. It was great but I don't think it drove people to watch in the build-up because Derek Vicenzo even though he had one very good fight against Daniel. Jacobs was something of unknown commodity disowned needs people to be excited about Goliath converse canal. They need people to believe that Google often versus Canelo is a competitive fight. Now, maybe they will in January or February. If, can comes out some point this fall and just clobber. which is possible. Meta is not a power puncher galapagos anything coming back at him so we can just attack and see red and go out there and pick up a knockout. So maybe that will build. Some momentum for the fight but if for some reason gluskin struggles in that fight, even if he wins. I'm not sure what to make of Canoga. Lafon in twenty twenty one, I don't know if the buzz will even if there'll be any buzz for that fight twenty, twenty one. Deserve. Fight can serve a real purpose Chris in that. If Glove can goes in there and blows him out, it will make the fight more attractive because you know it'll show while you know he Does a lot better than people may be realized that although I don't know why they wouldn't have realized. Because of the Daniel, Jacobs fight him I'm not saying anyone expected the dogfight that we saw last October fifth but. I don't know why people would have underestimated driving chango going into that fight, but I'm so. So I'm not criticizing him for that because he phone in the league middleweight and it was a very close fight. Probably could have gone either way but you know if he beat Zarem out of the way that I think that he can. It will help zones 'cause but it'll be very costly. You know in a in an environment where you're trying to save money you're trying to. Behave. responsibly. With with the money that's available. Spending fifteen ish, million dollars on Inada love can meals are Meta's Outta good investment. An, but it's something that they're stuck with contractually and I think that they're going to wind up honor. Yeah I agree with you I think Zera. Meta. Google. Often happens at some point in the next three months. Will fight somebody in the next three months and if you're. Just. The best outcome possible I guess if Canelo scores a big knockout Gallup scores a big knockout, the pandemic lifts by the time we get early next year and you can have that fight, but it is costly to your point and there is a pretty big risk op speaking of costly. Dale Fema Lopez Vassily Low Marchinko. This is a fight that top rank had targeted for early October. It's a fight that they had on the books before the pandemic hit. It's a fight that I think a lot of people expected to be made relatively easily. Top rank gut through the Loma Chanko side it seems like a fairly quickly with his side of the deal. But here we are with Fema Lopez who has balked at taking top ranks original offer for that fight. Obviously offer was lower than what it has been what it was in the past because there is no live gate for the least there's not expected to be. The finances have changed but Lopez seems pretty dug in that. He's not going to take this fight at the offer. Top rang may you've spoken to? Bob, Erin recently spoke you've covered this story pretty extensively I mean, where are we do? Are we optimistic pessimistic about this fight happening? What have to be pessimistic at this point kristen that if Fema Lopez I'm not I'm not accepting a package in the neighborhood of one point two, million dollars overall. Altogether it's a little more than that. But not much more than that. So if I'm him. I'm not fighting CHANGO THAT MONEY and. I understand where Aaron is coming from. He's not gonNA lose money on the event. He can only pay you know he has to satisfy Loma chant goes contractual. Obligation the obligation he has to Aloma Janko who from what I've been led to believe has accepted a little bit less than his contractual minimum for this fight but he still making. between three point five and four million dollars in that in that area. So he's making three times as much as Lopez would under what's been proposed So Credits Loma Chango for not demanding his minimum in saying I won't fight unless you pay me the minimum for what would be a big fight. But I also understand it from FEMA Lopez perspective. This is the biggest fight of his career nine. Oh, he's not looking at it as a fight he can lose, but it is a fight that he could lose and so he should be paid what? If I'm him and I know that Sukur Stevenson. was going to be. Paid. Somewhere. Around a million dollars a fight Miguel Marietta. I would like to know why I'm going to be paid two hundred thousand dollars more or maybe a little bit more than at. To fight. Arguably the best fighter in the sport. So so I see it from both perspectives. There's no easy answer because some other revenue streams have been removed from the mixture and Dave Water Lopez's manager said something to Steve Kim yesterday that he understands that we're Aram's coming from there. He's not blaming it solely on Aaron, but he's basically saying if ESPN really wants this fight, they're going to have to come up with more money or to your female Lopez going to fight someone else next. One way that ESPN money could come in I would suppose zip the college football season winds up getting scrapped because if college football is out on Saturday nights, ESPN is going to need tent pole programming on a very visible. Of the week and there's not a lot of options out there. You'RE NOT GONNA put baseball on their. The NBA. is going to be back but you know who knows what their schedule is GonNa look like. In September and certainly they're done in mid October. So. Yeah I mean I think ESPN have to strongly consider? Guaranteeing a little bit more money in that contract, but it's tough for them to it's tougher. Every network that's out there as they hemorrhage cash with this pandemic kind of ongoing. Let me ask you this is. Is a solution to this putting the fight on pay per view I. Mean I don't WanNa see the final pay per view I. Think it's better off being on ESPN. LINEAR GETS more eyeballs. It's the biggest fight of the year or one of the biggest bites of the year certainly at this point is putting it on paper view when telling Lopez if it does well, we'll give you more money. Is that a possible solution? It's a possible solution crisp, but it's very risky from Lopez's perspective because frankly I don't think the fight would do well on paper. It's great fight I WANNA see it one of the biggest fights in the sense that from matchup perspective, it's one of the biggest fights of the year a commercial perspective. It isn't because Loma Chanko was not a proven pay-per-view commodity neither is Tia Fema Lopez. So it's it's an alternative for sure and it might ultimately be the way that the fight is is offered on pay per view espn plus is another route they could go I mean it's a five dollars per month a service. So it's a lot cheaper for fans and be much happier if it. WAS ON ESPN plus ESPN would, of course have to absorb a lot of the costs and speaking to what you mentioned Chris. I'm a college football fan I. Believe you are as well You know you don't WanNa see an entire season cancelled. But if you're a boxing fan and you don't really care about college football, you want the college football season to be postponed, young canceled or postponed or whatever. Because there would be a lot more money available to SPN and internal lot more money available to Loma. Chango. Lopez Alabama and everyone involved in this fight and I think we could see the fight if college season is canceled, we will see that fight on ESPN I believe. A lot of the network. Yeah. Been Look nobody likes to see my Boston College Eagles go seven and five. Minute Car Care Bowl as much as as I do so I'm hoping it continues but. I'm we saw record this UCONN. became the first FBI school to. Cancel its season. So that may be just the first domino to fall, but we don't need to get into a whole. Trip down the covert. Lane. But. We've seen in boxing. It's not easy to keep the virus out even in bubble like environments and. You're talking about kids in school, and that's that's even more difficult than playing sports, lot of contact a lot of possibility for sure offer sharing. So your gut, feeling at this point when it comes to Lopez Aloma, Champa with the information that you have would be what? My gut feeling is, is that the college football season is going to be at least postponed? Probably cancel if I had to guess because he even here in New Jersey, Chris nuts, but on a college football rabbit hole. But here in New Jersey there was a massive outbreak on the Rutgers College football. Team. That's going to happen in a lot of programs. So I I don't really see the college football season happening because as you said, these are amateur athletes technically there. Are. Not Going to be students on campus. So how do you have a college football season? When students aren't you know students aren't allowed on campus, but players are allowed to play. That's kind of a strange message send. So I would expect the college football season will be scrapped in some form, and then we will see below Marchinko Lopez fight on ESPN, they're negotiating publicly for now which I know Auburn would prefer not to happen but. That's part of the business in it happens sometimes so So I think the wait a little bit longer again, there's no. They shouldn't be married to October third just like his own shouldn't be married to September twelfth for Canelo. So I think there's some especially if there's no college football season, you could put on any. Saturday. October. Theoretically. I think we will ultimately see that fight. Lopez. Will get closer to if not what he's looking for and thankfully I think we'll see that fight sometime in the fall. You know along those lines mean we are immersed in a pandemic right now unemployment has spiked. You know people don't have the disposable income that maybe they'd had this time last year even earlier this year and yet. Boxing weirdly, the only way to make significant fights might be to put these fights on pay per view. I mean we've seen showtime with their schedule, their significant fights, all of them are on pay per view same thing with Fox we know about it schedule. At this point, it's significant fights are going to be on pay per view I, wonder how they`ll Do I mean at some point you know even the almost of boxing fans gets pay-per-view buying fatigued doesn't have the sixty, seventy, eighty dollars whatever it costs to put up money for these types of fights. But you know financially the only way to get significant fights to happen might be to put him on pay per view. It's a weird kind of. What the word is, but it's a weird setup the way it is right now with no crowds and box need to maximize income going to pay per view but fans not having as much money to spend on the pay per view. So what do you make of that? Yeah, it's a slippery slope there Chris because you wanna be. Understanding, people were having tough times financially during a pandemic and you know in your heart goes out the people don't have their jobs you know boxing fans non boxing fans of course I. Mean You feel terrible for people who don't have. Money to pay their bills. Let alone disposable income to us on paper. WHO FIGHTS But the reality is that some of these fights would not happen will not happen if they're not on the paper of your platform because they're the fighters have a certain expectation because of the market that's been established and they're not going to do it for what's available within the budget of say showtime or Fox or zones on pay per view platform but. ESPN the the the the money is not available in the budget's put those shows. On either basic cable or premium cable or in the case of Fox Free TV which would be best case scenario So the fights have to pay per view at UC it's a risk for everyone involved because Jamaal Charles in charge. While polarizing guys that draw reactions from fans who are in very difficult fights that they could lose. Their not proven pay-per-view commodities. So this is a risk for everyone involved. They're getting their guarantees of course, but being paid percentages of the upside. UH, same goes for devante Davis who? They think will be a pay per view star another very polarizing guy who knocks people out You know he's fighting in established fighter who has while a big underdog a proven commodity because he's won world titles in four weight classes. But but it's very risky Chris I agree with you because you run into this problem where you're having entirely too many Abe reviews in a very short span. Which is why it would be best for ESPN's Paloma, Chango Lopez on the network or worst case scenario putting it on ESPN plus as opposed ESPN, pay per view. But yet you really run the risk of fatigue and people are just people are not gonna every week or every other week on down seventy five dollars to watch boxing match on pay per view and as you well know, Chris, some people just steal all of them in it doesn't make a difference to them. What what do you think that ESPN and Fox and by extension top rank and PBC are thinking when it comes to wilder and fury because the target date at least for now is mid December you put that fight mid December it will come at the end of a long line of pay per views and look that fight underachieved the first time. Is Reason, there's plenty of reason to believe underachieve again, based on the result of that that second fight between wilder and fury at all that together I mean, do you think there's any possibility we could see that fight kicked to some point early next year to get away from this pay-per-view cycle or do you think they'll just put it on at the first available date that they believe they can get fans back in a building. It's a weird scenario kristen at doing pay per view six days before Christmas is. An enormous times more ONC? That's another good point. Yeah. The the holiday between Thanksgiving and Christmas after all these patriots like everything is working against them for that date right and there's they're talking about December nineteenth it's literally six days before Christmas I. You know people might be traveling to Las Vegas or doing things that they don't ordinarily do the week before Christmas 'cause things might be freed up by then but based on the trends of Covid nineteen I, have no reason to believe that I know December is still four still four plus months away. But I have no reason to believe that fans are going to be allowed at the fight by then my best guests in. Guessing here is that that fight will be pushed sometime into twenty twenty one. And then you run the risk of the guys being rusty because they won't have fought for so long I. Mean if you put that fight in February, of course, you're running up to a year from the time they previously fought. Not Ideal for either guy for for deontay wilder because he had surgery on his biceps and You know give them time to recover and whatever training changes he's making terms of personnel or training tactics gives them more time to get ready for the fight. And it'll be healthier but but yet, December. Nineth Summer Nineteen. December. Twelfth whichever date they picked there I think is asking for trouble because as you said Chris, it's at the end of a very long pay per view cycle, which will include at least. Probably four papers before wilder fury three, it's a bad idea. I understand the urgency to do it because tragically despite his old to both is also they want to get it off the book so to speak but December nineteenth sometime in December does not seem realistic to me. I feel like somebody whoever's guaranteeing all the money whether it's the promoters or the networks in the second or the third fight say. Somebody might take a big bath financially if those guarantees are significance. That game. And Chris, they took a big Beth with the second one. I guess a bigger one hits, right? Yeah. I. Don't know how big the bathrooms going to get but. You know. Top rank lost a lot of money on that fight. Al Hinman lost a lot of money on that fight They promoted it really as well as they could happen I. Think they were disappointed that it did in the eight hundred, thousand ranger so in. Pay, per, view is trickling sometimes for upwards of year but it didn't do as well particularly with all of the marketing and. they really. The ads during the Super Bowl for this fight which was unprecedented. It's never happened as far as I can remember for a boxing match of never seen it. To that's available to over hundred million people there was no one nobody that would have wanted to know that didn't know about that fight and for it to have done in the eight hundred thousand range while that's successful in comparison to any other pay per view fight in this era. It's not successful based on how they marketed the fight and all of the money and time and energy that went into that. And I think one thing you have to remember to to your point about how much time and Energy and marketing they put into it. They are probably not going to have the marketing resources at their disposal in the fall like they did before. You know who knows if and when the NFL starts, who knows if and when college football starts, the NBA is going to be done in mid October. So even if you put on ads during the finals, it's a long way between the end of the finals and wilder versus fury. Three. Plus I can't imagine networks that are losing money on advertising revenue. Committing free spots even if it's a thirty second spot in the finals or a thirty second spot during a December playoff game every spot, and this is what kind of gets lost sometimes in the shuffle. Every spot that a network gives up that's money they're not taking in and they're hoping that it. Pays off in the end with bigger pay per view buys but. I don't see this time around I don't know about you but I don't see this time around these networks eagerly willing to give the kind of free ad inventory. They have their disposal as they. They were the first time around. What what you're saying obviously makes sense Chris I just don't know that. They almost have to though right I mean because then you're asking to do even less you. At the second fight was such was so one sided. And I'm not discounting deontay wilders chances in the third fight because. He's one of the most devastating punchers in the history of boxing. So I I don't think you could count him out of a fight on. I'm not saying you can be confident that he would win the third fight but I don't think it's some foregone conclusion that he's going to go in there and get stopped again or very one sided and moves a decision or something like that. But I'm so I'm interested in seeing the third fight but if they don't put the marketing. Muscle behind it that they did for the first fight. Now, the Super Bowl Yup depending on when the fight happens super bowl commercials and everything might not be available but the point being you know, I don't know that they could go about it in a lesser way because the nats asking to lose even more money than they lost on the first fight. So there's no easy answer there. But what you're saying makes sense, but I don't think they're going to just say, Hey, you know. Whatever with four? Hundred thousand? It is what it is because there's so much at stake here, and as you said, these networks are already losing money. What the answer is to that but I do know that there. Based on the by rate of the first fight and what's going on in the world I can't see any way that they would even break even for the third fight. The trick I think in promoting it is going to trying to find a way to sell the public that wilder has a chance to win now you and I both know that with that type of one punch power you're still every fight and we've seen heavyweights going all the way back to George Foreman who have one big fights based on that one punch knockout power. ESPN and Fox and top rank and. Convince an audience though that a guy that was just so one sidedly destroyed has that chance that is going to be a test I think of the promoting. Skills of Bob. Arum and the marketing skills of ESPN. and. Fox Let, me ask you about what's coming up in September speaking of a need to market a fight. Mike. Tyson orig- else. All right. The two fifty plus year old former champions they are allegedly going to meet on September twelfth. In. California in an exhibition match eight rounds no headgear twelve ounce gloves I believe I have those particulars rights. And they're gonNA meet in the ring how they meet in the ring. Is An open question. I. Mean Andy Foster of the California State Athletic Commission has said to anybody that will listen that this is not going to be a real fight that if these guys start throwing haymakers at each other, the referee Ray Corona is going to step in and tell them to knock it off. Meanwhile, you've got my Tyson and Roy Jones clearly trying to sell a fight and sell pay per views saying that they're gonNA knock each other's block off so I'll ask you Keith Tyson versus Jones, and do you believe that at some point a real fight is going to break out. Well at a pay per view price point of fifty dollars. Mike Tyson Roy Jones just saying what they have to stay I'm what else are they gonNA say they're not going to say. We're going to go in there and just you know like. Dance around each other for a few rounds because no, one would buy it but it really speaks to why this shouldn't be happening or it's certainly shouldn't be on paper for fifty dollars. I mean if you WANNA charge on E. Bucks or something like that, it's much more reasonable but they've guaranteed certain amounts of money to Mike Tyson in Roy Jones so they can't be twenty dollars or whatever it's less than a regular boxing pay-per-view but it's far far far far less than a real boxing match. So I. So it should be a lot less even less than it is but look people are still fascinated with Mike Tyson. We've discussed before they'll be fascinated with Mike Tyson long after he's gone and I understand that to a degree but. I expected the fighting Holyfield in some sort of exhibition SORTA surprised when it was was Roy Jones when they found out but You know two of the biggest names in boxing history but it's not even a real exhibition. If okay I would say if it was a real exhibition and they were trying to beat each other. That's that's one thing but it's not even that. So, what is it? I mean it's not going to be a winner or loser does. They're not scoring the fight if you can't score the fight. They're not scoring the fight and you knock out your opponent. What is it? That's not even sparring. They're saying it'll be like a sparring bachelor. I've seen a lot of sparring matches in gyms all over the place. And guys are trying to beat the crap out of each other. They're not going to be allowed to beat the crap out of each other. Now people are saying, Oh, you know, Tyson. He's a little nuts more than a little probably an if he snaps and he goes after Roy Jones above a block. Stop if he does do that, they're just gonNA stop it immediately. So and credit to Andy. Foster. Who Basically has put as big a buyer beware sticker on this event as he possibly could. Credit to him because. I'm sure he probably didn't even want to go along with this in any way. Any and frankly he didn't have to but. At least he's letting people know that if you spend fifty dollars on this, just realize what you're getting here and anyone who buys it people are free to do with their money whatever they want people to all kinds of crazy things waste money various ways. But if you spend fifty dollars on this event. You do not have you can't complain. You cannot complete you. You just don't have the right to complain because you know you've been warned by multiple people for the entire buildup of the events that it is not anything resembling a real fight. So if you buy it and you just WanNa, see Mike Tyson and Roy Jones in the same ring together. Okay, but you just can't complain about it. Based on what you get, which I can't imagine is going to be much. No, do not grumble. Do Not Grumble on social media do not complain to your friends about what happened there because. Everyone that knows anything about this fight from Andy Foster on down his telling you that it's not going to be a real event that I've seen on social media in for some fighters. Ryan Garcia tweet out something like I've never I never got to see Mike Tyson in a real pay per view. It's like. Well, you're not going to see him in one now that that's for sure like that's that's not going to happen I just. Look I would encourage if you're looking to buy this fight. I would encourage you to I go on Youtube and find the exhibition Mike Tyson did with Corrie Sanders where Mike Tyson literally held Corrie Sanders up after hitting him once to make sure he didn't fall down like there's this could be significantly worse because both these guys are so far past their prime actually amazed me that Roy's only two years removed from actually fighting a real fight that I had forgotten about that to an extent, but this isn't going to be be a real thing I mean. I. I. I don't know the only thing that could happen. That could raise a level of excitement would be as if Tyson catches Roy wants right before it can get out of hand. If he just swings catches Roy was been knocked out by far less punchers especially in the latter stages of his career if he catches Roy once. Your highlight reel moment and maybe maybe that will get you to the point of acceptance of paying that fifty dollars but if you're looking for a brawl It's not going to happen like the commission has been very clear. They will not let it happen. No matter what these fighters saying. Well full disclosure Chris. I'm ashamed to admit that I was in Youngstown Ohio the night that Mike Tyson. Fought Corrie Sanders. Go. But but what I you know if you're looking to see Roy Jones get knocked out. Go on Youtube, you can see all over the place of in you know Glen Johnson Antonio Tarver that Enzo macaroni, Nellie macaroni, I. Mean there's there's you can see it i. mean an in real fights he was not cold if the for some reason that that interests you, you can see as many times as you want. I just I don't. Look I don't I just don't understand why people would buy this and. Now, one of the things that you would think would be a good revenue stream for them would be the gate because you think people would come they would make the tickets reasonably priced people would come watch it will people can't even come. So why it seems like an odd time to do this event in the middle of pandemic before they're going to be somewhere between three to five real pay per view fights including one just two weeks later, and that's another thing unfortunately for for the Charles Showtime. Pay. Per View, you know this Tyson Johnston could take some buyers away from the Charles Event because some people are GonNa side between the two Tyson event is even though it's not a real fight is less money. They'll find other ways to stream the showtime event which they might do anyway but it's it's just a weird time for that events happen it shouldn't be happening ever probably but it but it's a weird time for it to be happening right in the middle of this pandemic when fans can attend so. Just just so many things at play there kristen that make no sense Gupta. I honestly didn't know trailer was until I found out the show. That's not surprising to you but the. Idea was not aware of trailer and at least they're making it available on regular. If you do want to buy it, you don't have to use this happen you know watching on your phone or you know whatever on the with us to watch A. And the other thing that that could be interesting here is chillers never done a pay per view event they have no experience doing real pay per view events. So they're going to be all kinds of technical issues and everything and I'm not saying you know they they know their business obviously built it up until you know it's worth a lot of money and all at doing a pay per view event and marketing pay per view event event the right way Hicks experience and they don't have that. So especially when you're. You're selling sort of like a circus in some senses in they don't have any experience doing. So at the there's no, there's no real promoter involved in this. It like island promotions is somehow involved, which I believe is a Roy Jones outfits, Pensacola based. then. Is. Running the show there but I mean if it's true again, I preface everything by saying if it's true and alleged leak is I'm still not buying that despite actually happens. But if it's true that they're putting up fifty million in guaranteed money for this and I'd encourage people involved to make sure that money's an escrow account somewhere because I want to be sure of that before these pay per view buys start rolling in I. Mean that's I. Don't know how you get that money back I think there will be people interested, but marketing is going to be. Difficult, you don't have traditional platforms I guess you're kind of relying on Tyson's twitter account. Now Jones's word of mouth and the boxing community finding out that Mike Tyson's back in the ring and being interested in this event. But I know I I agree with you it could take buys away from the Charles Brothers which is interesting pay per view too high level fights like we talked about on one pay per view it's pretty good value. If you're looking to to spend some money on a fight and Tyson Jones could certainly take away from it it also. Reminds me and. One. Of our favorite Pr People Kelly, Watson had this tweet after the Tyson Jones A. Announcement. Came out wondering why boxing people were discussing Tyson Jones and not writing about the showtime calendar well, isn't it? An indictment of what boxing's done in recent years that Tyson versus Jones still has writers like you me? Who broke the story others running to their laptops to write about it and get details about it. I mean that to me isn't a reflection on the writers. It's a reflection on boxing, and that Tyson Jones still does more traffic and generates more interest than any fights that could be announced are being announced in boxing. And Kelly's case says she's just protecting the brand. So to speak I, mean she's obviously worked for Al Hayman and does promotion for PBC, on Fox and PBC on showtime so I. Don't you know I understand she says that's fire but But at the same time, people remain fascinated with Mike Tyson and as much as I would prefer not to exist because I don't think any good can come of it in terms of boxing's reputation. There are there is no bigger name in boxing now. May. Be Never will be again then Mike Tyson. So he's fifty four years old. He has not Austin in if you count the Corrie Sanders Exhibition Fourteen years. But people are still fascinated with him kristen and you know we discussed this last time I was on the podcast about people that Mike Tyson could come back to win a heavyweight championship or the world and I don't mean beating Trevor Brian for the WB Interim Title I'm saying beating Tyson fury or Anthony Josh or the wilder if he were to come back when the Titles I mean like the real champions people believe that I mean may mainstream sports fans that don't follow boxing all that. Often they believe that Mike Tyson still I don't know why you would believe based on what happened in his last real fight since two, thousand, four, hundred, thousand, five or people that believe that and if there are enough of those people who still want. Whatever's left of Mike Tyson and whatever kind of fight this actually is. You know maybe they'll do more pay per view buys than we expect but I don't fit. The AHLERS is not small amount of money to see something that you know is not a real fight. Between a guy who hasn't fought in fifteen years and a guy who shouldn't have fought fifteen years so Good luck to them and we have to write about it to some extent because. Because because boxing fans and non boxing fans are interested in I'll say this the traffic on our website for those Roy Jones Mike Tyson stories especially when the story first broke in the in the in the stories that follows stories that were written after that they generate a lot of traffic because because he's Mike Tyson. Roy Jones. A huge name in box into, he's not as much of a name. You know outside of the realm of boxing as Mike. Tyson. But he's a pretty big name also so. But again, if you buy this pay per view event good luck to you. Just know what you're going to get out of this pay per view I'm with you on the traffic stuff too I mean I'm down here in Orlando covering the NBA when despite was announced, I went running to my. Room to write about it because I know there would be genuine interest in Tyson versus Roy Jones, and I'm sure I'll be writing about it in the days leading up because. People want to hear about it. People want to read about it in even if we're critiquing it, I mean, it's still. I think is worth writing about in the build up Let me finish with Adrian Browner and I bring him up because. He talks a lot and not all of it. In fact, most of it isn't very good but bronner's been inactive since January of two, thousand, nine, hundred, thousand. Over. The last three years fighting just sparingly and not winning much at all. Since, his move up from one hundred and thirty, five pounds he's now making some noise about moving back down to one, hundred, thirty, five pounds and it piqued my interest Keith because while his level of competition at one, thirty five and below was nowhere near what it was at on. It is at one, thirty five and above above one thirty five. He still strikes me as a guy, much better fit for the lightweight division. Then he is for one, forty, one, forty seven now like you I'm sure I have my doubts that he can actually make a hundred and thirty five pounds but him saying he wanted to fight back there again and do it fulltime that interested me what was your reaction to Brunner suggesting he could return to lightweight Well. No one sells himself better than HP, brauner right I mean he he. He's not fighting one hundred and thirty five pounds. You can barely make one hundred and forty pounds, and that was has been an issue for him. He's older now he's you know he's he's another one of those guys Chris were. He's younger than people probably think because he's been at the top level for. So long he's been, you know high profile fighter for quite some time. So Old Now. He's not making one, hundred, thirty, five pounds I know that you know that it's just not physically possible. You know he's older now any and he's had a lot of difficulty making hundred forty pounds. So he's not gonNA, fight one if he if he were able to do that by thought that was a legitimate possibility. Throw Adrian Browner into the mix with all these young guys lightweight. Let him fight one of those young up and coming guys But I'm not. He would do that I mean, he's. A dramatic fight Ryan Garcia or Not a female Lopez or someone like you know someone. At that level that that there's a good chance that he would lose against. I. Don't know I think. I. Think he's GonNa fight older more established fighters or he would make a lot of money and at least have some chance to win. But he's been very inactive He hasn't fought since he pack couches a year and a half ago basically now he made a lot of money for that fight and he has a lot of financial obligations to his children and and. Other issues that he's had in his life and everything but. So it's not like he's not going to fight again. But I've been told that he's GonNa come back sometime in January I've heard anything about opponents or anything yet I. Think he's GonNa come back somewhere between. One forty, one, forty, seven. Contracting catchweight fight a reasonable opponent. I don't think anyone that necessarily will beat him because he's going to be shaking off a lot of Ross. But to to and the short answer to your question is no I do not think he'll fight at one, hundred, thirty, five pounds over again. But we will see him back in the ring I think at the very beginning of twenty twenty one. You know when it comes to Bronner my question is often what was he ever good right like he was popular in his ratings reflect that but I'm not sure he was ever good and I don't look at the number of divisions. He won championships in I mean, that's just that's all just kind of goofy. There's so many titles you can go out there and win if you look at his resume at one, thirty five and under what's the best went on? It is an tonio. Is. It sent Escobedo I. Mean there aren't a lot of any real Meghan names on that resume. When he moved up, he'd beat any of the guys that he fought at one, forty, one, forty, seven, those catchweights inbetween I've often wondered like. was he just like perfectly matched his rise from the one twenties into one thirty five or was it when he jumped up his lack of his inability to take care of himself and to not blow up in between fights and control the drinking and control the partying was that what ultimately took him down? Where do you stand on that? Yeah I mean I think Some of his behavior outside of the ring contributed to him, not realising his potential as a very talented fighter when you ask was good. Yeah he was certainly good was a great i. don't think he was ever great his win against Demarco I think which was in Atlantic City I believe in two thousand, Twelve Oz business best. Win At lightweight. I think that tech WBZ on lightweight title. I believe from DEMARCO so So that was a good win for him but yeah I mean most times are every time really when he stepped up against the top opponent, he lost Shawn Porter Manny, Pacquiao Mikey Garcia. He's lost a lot of these fights. There's some other provides that you could argue that he lost age people some people think he lost during Bernardo's Renato certainly feels that way. Know that was a close fight that could either way you could certainly argue that broder. One Jesse Vargas same thing Jesse Jesse Jesse Vargas, which was after the Granados fight so An Vargas, very good fighters. So in Granados I think is not as good as Vargas but a tough guy who never stops coming and has given a lot of other opponents trouble but. He. Eight or not an elite fighter and Adrian Brunner was still in his physical prime he still is when he fought Granados a couple of years ago so. You know you could certainly pick apart Adrian bronner's resume if you want to and and like you mentioned, Chris, the thing about him being afford division champion out on blame it on Brunner I mean he's just taking advantage of the system that's in place but he's been very well promoted very well marketed. I feel bad for Boehner in the sense that I do think he he deals with some. Mental issues in some emotional issues that he that you know. You WanNa have compassion for somebody when you feel that they are. They're struggling in their lives and I think there's been evidence of that on social. Media. So I tried to take that into account, but he is the he can be a funny guy I mean he can. He can certainly do things that that kind of make you cringe he's done the plenty of that but he can be an entertaining guy, and he certainly a polarizing guy in the ratings reflect that and that's the most interesting thing Chris because whatever anyone thinks of Adrienne Boehner's resume in what he's accomplished in the ring every time that showtime. The, air. The ratings are very good and that's not a coincidence want to Adrian broader not is some of it is the floyd mayweather effect. They want not putting him in the category Floyd Mayweather as as a fighter of course, but they WANNA stay lose you there are. As many people or maybe more that WanNa see Adrian brought her lose that. Want to see him when. You know? There's something to that. As long as you're gonNA keep drawing ratings, they're going to keep paying you. Now if he starts getting knocked out and fights says, he gets older as he gets into his mid thirties if that starts happening, what will then I don't know the people be as interested in watching him fight but for now I I'll say this if he comes back in fights on showtime. On a in January or February, the ratings will be better for that fight probably than any other fight that showtime will televise from now until December and there are some others from solid fights on their good fights that a donor wally fight is a very good fight but bronner will do better ratings than that despite not having fought in a year and. Two years at that point and not having won a significant fight and how all. Yeah. One thing about bronner that I try to keep in mind too is that beyond the cartoonish kind of behavior the vulgarity press conference is all that like there's a lot of depth to him I remember going to his training camp in Colorado, springs. Before he fought my daughter when things start to really go downhill after that and just spending time with him there and. Getting to know him and his journey how we came I mean it was it was rough man I mean he's got a really compelling back story about how he got up until this point, it's just kind of starting to slip away from a little bit and if he comes back at a catchweight I would assume that the plan would be eventually down to one hundred and forty pounds I just don't know what the pathway is to. A high level fight there you've got the two champions that are there for the time being right? Like Jose, Ramirez is going to get to that Josh Taylor flight and then he's GonNa move up into the Jamal Crawford game. Same thing probably with Taylor whenever he's done with that fight and then when you look at that landscape, you're going to have those one, thirty, five coming up you're going to have devin Haney coming up you're GONNA have Taffy Molo Pez coming up even if you can make those fights if you can move over to the top ranked side, make Lopez move over to the Eddie her inside and make Devon Haney. I. Wouldn't make him a favorite in any of those fights at this point. I. Just I can see I can see another run being kick started for Adrian. Brunner. A win in January. Maybe another one three or four months later. But when you get to a tough fight unless something significantly changes I don't know how you make him. I'll how he wins those tough fights. Iraq right Chris I. I'll stay you know he's going to be the guy whose name other guys try to use to build their careers and and that's where he is in his career. Now now, maybe he gets motivated enough for. You Win Somehow wins one of these fights in his career could change at that point but there's no evidence that that's going to happen but he's still a marketable fighter you know. The thing for him though is. Looking. To accomplish one, hundred, forty pounds, he's already done. Mikey Garcia is the best fighter. Technically a welterweight now but he's really a forty pounder. He's already fought the past forty bounder he lost. He lost. He's up you know at welterweight fought Manny Pacquiao. What else does the gunman that saw like people don't want to see him fight answer any of these other welterweight? So, he's already done at one, forty, seven in what one forty what could be done I still think it will fight at one forty because that's where he's best suited. Mostly I don't think he can make one hundred and thirty five pounds but yeah, he's going to be the guy like might be the a side in terms of having a bigger name, the fighters, but he would be the B. side in terms of competition and a guy that they'd be looking to. US So. To speak to propel their own career, it's an and that's that's the boat that he's going to be in whether he likes it or not. I mean you know but. He is valuable in the sense that he's still a very you know whole arising well-known fighter. Draws Ratings, and as long as he's. Some semblance of competitive in these fights, he's going to continue to get big fights. I agree I mean he's GonNa have to. Earn his way back into. The upper echelon of fighters and I'm not exactly sure how he does at this point I think I think they'll build him slowly in two thousand, twenty one with some very winnable fights right off the bat. But by the second half of the year, they put them in tough someone's GonNa have to give something's got to change for him to to win those bites in my mind Keith. Always appreciate it man always great stuff at the very least. It's to have boxing back to have real stuff to talk about it not. Pandemic. What if at the? I'll take that at this point. I'm with you Chris I mean there's a lot of boxing coming up know a lot of Saturday's where they'll be three cards are every Saturday coming up So other than not having fans at the fights and a lot of other things that we have to deal with with the pandemic least, we're getting back to some sense of normalcy in boxing and Yeah. Let's look forward to a to do you have. Do you have a first show that you're planning on attending of anything on the calendar yet you're thinking about going to Yeah I'm planning to attend the showtime show up at Mohegan Sun on on August fifteenth with David Been Evita's against Romero glow in the main event. It's driveable from I live in New Jersey. It's maybe two and a half hours away. We have to go into quarantine everything they are Saunas I'm going to see how that goes and then go from there. I mean looking forward to getting on obviously. flew to. Orlando for the NBA about looking to fly anytime soon, if it's not necessary but but this is a drive I'm going to cover as long as all the showtime fights are at Mohegan Sun, I'm planning on covering all those swimming that the media's allowed but I am planning to cover that car next week and the. Election. How that bubble experiences I'm sure it's a little different than the one year in down there which I'm sure is pretty good. Right? Well, enjoy the Cova test when you get there I'm not sure what they're doing. They've been they've been a little bit lighter on the Cova tests here with the shallow swabs if you've gotTA, take. That brain. Good Good luck to you might not make to fight night if I have to do that. Joy Teeth appreciate time man anytime Chris Lachmann. Coming up next former two division champion call friends. All Right Carl Frampton is here the two division world champion. He is back in action on August fifteenth in a fight that you can see live on ESPN here in the US although he's going to be fighting somebody else. We learned just earlier today called joins me on the show Carl I. Knew opponent, right I mean what? What's what's been going on with the opponent? It's been a bit of a mass be honest. Opponent that Originally, Hod. As he congress visa. Card into the country. Ozzy things a little bit more difficult with. The worldwide palm damage that that is ongoing at the ISSUE, but we've we've got all our guys. Thank God. We're told UNTO. Currently there has been a guy on standby empty K., can have. Thought that this may have been an issue. They've been a guy, the tranquilize four weeks Justin Kiss. Arose the situation roles which has so But Hansa could be him. I'd WanNa says the yet until until we get confirmed but I pretty sure I'll have an opponent I will be fighting on on the fifteenth of August. How comfortable are you going to be fighting somebody that you weren't necessarily preparing for on the fifteenth? It's not idealize it but Whoever's an end? Will have had the Tan to prepare for me as ipod the per for them so I but untreated unipolar by ten weeks. So I did she. My wits I still don't know. What we don't want to fight not. Hold on open the be one thirty. But as if you're getting an opponent then idly at no risk at may above one thirty You know I probably know as much as you at this point but I am confident that I will get an opponent Bryson. Twenty twenty it's been a pretty weird year It yeah for everyone. It has been gripped for me ater. If if I didn't have I don't think any law is just. The way things are going I'M A guy. I'm looking to fight your mail harangue exactly. The same boat as may be a in terms of. Mishaps and things going wrong. So, it hasn't been a great year. What have you been thinking watching a guy like herring who you're penciled in to face at some point later this year possibly. In a title fight I mean he's not only lost a fi once he's lost the fight twice now he's training for the third time. To get into the ring against Jonathan Kendall what if you've been thinking watching that unfold of last couple of months I feel extremely sorry for him. Understand. What it's like I I know Jamal like myself trey away from old allegiance family And he goes in trends e leases is children white behind. I'm sure that will be a waste of time away from family. It's gotta be hard that they left but. I know that Jamal harshly but the impression I have is that he's math Lavar a strong person. I'm pretty sure he'd be able to deal with and. The thing with me is in this situation as well as I feel like I meant list wrong person. I think forget it SORTA. Challenging Carl has this year Ben for you not just professionally but personally, I mean having this pandemic effectively shut the world down the UK included me. What have you had to kind of deal with over these last four months? Well you're. Supposed to same as me Sanford has been for everyone else. And this game boxin obviously a lot of things going on at the minute fighting behind closed doors I was supposed to fight your mail her right. I think June thirteenth was the proposed it it was almost all done on then. What's happened has happened. I've been I've been looking after I've got a bit of a a gym at home so I've been training But I've been up and over here a month jess or white. Ryan, only dream of my team for by ten weeks. Oh I. I've got a good Cana solid. I'm. I'm ready. I'm really ready to hit the ground running when things just went up again. What kind of precautions are you taking to make sure that the corona virus doesn't impact your training and hopefully not your fight on the fifteenth well, Sam as everybody else really mosques when of Martin. Why should Hans Consta- later point were. They're vice sore and they're cracking and dehydrated. Also have also been them I normally fly home. Every weekend. So the flight from Belfast Manchester is literally fifty minutes. I don't feel comfortable get it on flakes just yet. So I've been getting overnight ferry every second weekend rather than every weekend, which takes nine ours but you can get a cab. So I this boat. From Belfast to to Manchester I get cabin I'm alone nobody comes anywhere near me but I feel like the precaution that The. Virus. How does that? Does that wear in you at all? Mentally, you'll being alone as often as you are not really because I'm used to doing a whole career. I don't. I miss. My family was there must mackenzie way? I enjoy. Company, sometimes. Don't make. Reasonable Watson flex a river So yeah, I can think of it. Okay. I can relate to I'm also okay with a long data after Netflix's. It's not a bad way to spend a day. For people that are in the US arts. Clear. At how things are going over the UK, what do you see when you go out what you see when you're? Around. People over there but how they're treating this coronavirus because I can tell you in the US, we're still a disaster like we don't know there are still people that think masks are you know a myth that that doesn't work to protect yourself that what what are you seeing over in the? UK Well. I see that I think it's a bit of a disaster over here as well In terms of casualties and an an high the government that dealt with it but. I am at the minute I'm in Manchester. There's been a bit of a lock done not not as strict as walls at the start, but has been an upsurge in. Navarre victims and at and people contracting the disease so There's been a little bit of a candidate is not not an extreme knocked done, but there's been few precautions taken by people less people in the street. But when you do see people on the street I would say. I would say ninety percent or mosques, and obviously you've got some people who don't WanNa wear them and the like the world but. I would say that most most of the population are taken pretty seriously. It's been kind of rollercoaster of last four years from you got to kind of on the top when you beat Leo Santa Cruz in two thousand, sixteen lost a year. Later you come back you beat no need to Donayre in a big fight and then you lose to Josh Warrington. When you look at the two losses, the Santa Cruz loss in the rematch and the Warrington fight. Did. One one worse than the other or do they both feel the same? I think. Obviously I was upset when I lost both I wanted to win the fates. I was confident that could have won the fights I think the warring inside for me was was the hardest one to get over because I feel like I didn't perform at all Affiliate. I feel like it wasn't me and there's a lot more to give. And WanNa Fade ferns score but I got it wrong on the night. That's a fight that. I could advantage of I got the chance for a response, the the fake. Grid Berlin fateful for them shoot about a third FAG. But obviously there hasn't been which is a shame. But at Srinath novell of my own I wanted to I I was hoping to travel the L. Fade Him. He knows his team without A. The wind and fight I would say hurt more than an the loss. Did those to Santa Cruz fights. Do you feel like they took anything out of you? I mean, they were brilliant fights I mean fight of the year. Type contest when you go through that twice did they take anything out of you? I don't think so. You could ask the same question but Warrington defeat as well, which is another graphite. But. If you'd have seen me sparring last night. I. Hope People Talk All the time but I felt like. I spoke to my team about it is the best I performed in sparring. In year I feel like I'm rolling back. The urge whether that's to do with the campus GM slightly less time. We're doing last farm because it was a struggling gets foreign partners in we wanted to learn disbar the brief control revitalized foreign open Taylor on four or five weeks ago. So I've been training. Trenin smarter this time. Ben Normally on. Think about help C. Span last night. I don't I don't think Of these heart phase of really take away from. You you've said numerous times. He just said it again that you wanted that third fight with Leo Santa Cruz. Badly, why do you think that never happened you pinpointed to one thing or one reason why that third fight didn't come about. Probably a number of reasons. Ultimately the fate of the he wanted the happen. That's that's that's the main issue here. There's a there's another reason that. Can't really say because it would probably get me and a lot of trouble legally but the. Yeah just she but I think it'll be more of a blotch on his career. When we look back retrospectively at the end of our careers on people ask a question why did it third fate never happen I think it'll be more of a blotch on him and it is on May. have. You completely given up hope that could happen i. mean you are presumably going to be in a world title fight at one hundred, thirty pounds at some point later this year Leo is in a very tough fight with devante Davis later, this year, but it is going to be one hundred and thirty pound title I mean, do you think as any part of you still want that fight? Especially if both of you guys come up with wins I, want the fake certain but I, don't I just don't see it ever happens. On the ship but. Again. Again I've tried I've tried to help us site at wanted the but yes, just it's just a she ended never. You had said that after the Warrington fight you were considering your career, would you retire? Would you keep going forward? What was that process like and how did you come to the decision to keep your career going? I. I did reflect cable with the New Year. When Enjoy, feet man. I was upset with myself? I thought about I thought about retirement. But I think that me and as you was I didn't WanNa go on a fight that got because. I knew I was still about our failure, the not performance and I wanted to show people that that I. Am a better fighter than that. And I. got it. Wrong in the NATE WASN'T A. Over the hill, it was a kiss of me getting my tactic drawn and I hold my hands up that and take responsibility. So opposite really once thought about that and how that can thought process. On M. T. K. my team the top ranked van came up and when. Mapping and top rank. You know the biggest promotional on the planet when they come call on and sand we think we can make you award chomping again, we'll give you the opportunity against your mail harangue. I had the ticket and I'm confident I'm confident that I come. Was Herring, the fight that you have been eyeballing. You were scheduled to face him. But for the last you know as you kind of made this second run at a world championship, I mean, was he the one that you identified as the guy you want to fight? Yeah thanks so Our names have been mentioned alongside each other for probably about a year. and. I knew that he was with top Ryan on a new the. He's looking for opponents all the time. There's not a lot of seem to WANNA fake male haram but I you know I'm I'm. Standing up here and saying that Alpha I'm I'm happy to fight him He seems like that he wants to give me the opportunity. So mutual respect between the Journal mail. I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that will happen at some on. It's a good division that you're in especially being aligned with top rank. It's you know several of the champions are over there I mean, it's not you. It might be just one fight for you could be multiple big fights over the next eighteen months. Or felt. Water Fader Probably. A number one guy in the division I would say but even. Even someone like As, a huge fight for me on and we're talking about me and him fighting US featherweights We have a bit of a railway agana mutual respect between me and all star with another fake that really interesting. Before I let you go. It's interesting. British boxing politics have been a lot like in the US with promoters not working together. Recently you've had Frank Warren come out and say Eddie, hearn I should do business together. Tell me as someone who is over there. How likely do you think that is knowing those two parties and what would that mean for British boxing if these two fighters can these two promoters can work together? Well first of all, what would Nayna s the to top promoters in the UK? Could get their top fighters fighting each other. It would be huge for British box huge reward box. On the could mix incredible macho. It's interesting that the both guys they're normally really at loggerheads on them criticizing each other constantly. But? I think the Leah's than abuse that I sing. Seem optimistic is the traffic fight up. So hopefully hopefully, something. Comes off from that and it's not just hearsay and a little bit of talk. bought. Her, nose SEM. Promoters, welcome with each other as difficult song pants. Hopefully, they can all. Get together and make the bike fights hopping. Believe me top rank with Bob Arab Don King. You know even Eddie her now and Tov. Param. Is the politics get in the way that that's for sure well, good luck on August Fifteenth Karl we look forward to it. No matter who you fight there, and hopefully in the fall Djamil herring that's going to be huge fight probably here are either or there or in the US looking forward to that as well. Thanks for joining me man. Chris all of us. That's it for this week's episode. My thanks to my guests as always subscribe to the podcast over at Apple podcasts. Great Review. You know I appreciate it and I'll see you next week. The NBA is back after a long strange hiatus were finally into finished the weirdest basketball season of all time and SL podcast. have a front row seat. Join me Chris Mannix on the crossover NBA show and Ben Gulliver on open floor every week for our takes from inside the bubble. That's right. We're inside the bubble and the best analysis and news on the Matte finish subscribe to bolt shows anywhere you can find podcast.

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Do you feel because i'm older now and this is what happens to me. Maybe it's never been different some days. I wake up and i feel like i'm in cement like i feel like my body's kind of caked in cement blakey and i gotta. I gotta really get what you're here. You came a little bit late because you were stuck in traffic. I've been on the floor here doing ching and talking yeah yeah. Have you been on your feet only fourteen hours fourteen hours yeah. If i'm standing outstanding kills me oh danny tamie walking standing standing from chilling. I'm good standing along time. Yeah kills me make up. It's it is what it is. It's not real work. Yeah i don't like saying i work for a living but it's it's always weird when people say that it's a lot of time there it's not work if your passion i get it. It's a lot of work though well. We did one scene yes. We're all sitting around the table. We did one scene. I was just told because it it was a hundred and ten times. Let me say it again. Say it again we did. The same scene hardened ten times in my head of on the drug. I'm like we need a different group. If it takes one hundred ten times to get this right yeah we need someone on. The scene was written in in a certain way where you have to get every angle. It's very difficult to nami with that many time well yeah. I was told that now. I don't know if that's true so i'm going to have to to go back and see if that's true if it is going to throw a little bit of a fit here's the problem. I love my director. He's a pro. I love my. I love everybody on asset so they're doing it. They're all great so there if they do it that many times. There's a reason why complain they're gonna. Come embarrass myself because they're going to go. You're going to give a reason why they're gonna go. Here's the thing here's what's going on. The writing and i'm going to go home said the best we like. How about this. I go like this. I don't eat. I've never i'm i'm a director. There were shooting shooting the reaction. Actually they're shooting the reaction shots off camera and i was saying the line for the fiftieth time and i go. Do we have to go all the way to the end and i uh here my director who i respect like oh yeah we do yeah. They don't reason they don't want okay. They don't wanna know shit. It's a team in the teen to fucking this. No you're on your antonio brown antonio brown. There's no more of a collaborative effort. The only kits such such a team sport. It's crazy. Everybody who's behind the scenes. I've never seen any no one's late and problems get solved immediately. I've never seen anything like it. I mean the figure me late or of course it's a well oiled machine known as time. Did you ever want to read behind everything. I'm talking about. If you want to write a book on hollywood if you want to read a book on hollywood and really get dirt you get you get the no no no no no what boring booker you talk to the grips. No you talk to the fucking hair and makeup people. Yeah never never say anything anything. The therapist don't open their mouths. Fuck how close you are. They will never spill the beans are they might say something like this. I worked with him. What's he like. He some different complicated different. Yeah i remember i wanted to ask i wanna get inside the mind of the the makeup ladies in heared <hes> people at e._s._p._n. When i when i was there when i was working yeah they were painfully hot now. Seeing of all the guys that come through i mean all the bigwigs greg that come through there and they do their makeup. You're talking about ray lewis michael irvin colby br. I mean the who's who is always running through there. I'm like god 'cause he's our alpha male. Oh yeah i'm like there's no way a few of these guys him just pull out their old floppy cots. I've been there. I've been well. I dare say story. Worry about how one of our one of our makeup people floppy floppy ever. Tell you this story. I'm on tv. We had a hair person who was transgender and she was basically fulop. Fool in fact she went through the fulop while we were actors as he's in yeah and our seconds. Jim showed it was jane. Yes and she was always always felt like a woman inside. She took her sister's birth control pills when she was fourteen. It was just a girl. I never thought of her as a man the school and <hes> roy jones junior the great roy jones junior at the the height of his career man yup he did the same. I think it was the first year of mad tv. He did a scene and we did the make up and he got right up in her face and he goes man man. If you was a fireman you look right through the people you look right to people he just sexiest and he was right up in her face. I mean pressing hard because he thought she was a woman. He's better russia and i remember saying to her. I said you know i said just be careful because you know he finds out that things are a little bit different. He could be you know he's. It's no joke because i knew he was house. Nobody else knew he was. I was like that's roy jones junior and she goes well. He's the one coming on to me. I mean he just like so hard. I was like i know that because <hes> <hes> you never know sexy. She looked really good. I have a friend who has a friend and she's a. I won't say it is but the famous trans trans yeah like really famous and she said she went through a d._m.'s yeah. You should see who believe it. I believe it 'cause. I you should see like you should see is introduced and i went. I like here. I go so they're galeb. No it's not that they're gay. It's just like a lot of these transgender. There's especially the ones that go from mendham there so feminine like they get so seminal so dick. Well the guys like it. I can tell you story about being on my set of mad tv and my the the woman who does hair her friend who was fulop and had huge tits and a fucking and hips and was slated gorgeous. Everything and this was nineteen ninety-six before technology will be a little dicey. I don't give as long as you know maybe i maybe i don't that an actor who may have been or may have been a guest star or was on the show at one point or another apparently apparently they were getting changed and he might have pulled his check out and got it sucked and oh by now you know o'brien. A straight man gets sir no but i i was like i was i in him up her up. I and her up and i'll be honest with you your opportunity that presented itself to me. I mean i would have done it. I wouldn't have done it without. I'm glad you admitted this demand. I just thought of it but here's my thing damnedest went. It's it's confession. Thursday it confession thursdays we can. We don't do it on wednesday. That's cat and chini guessing chime in on this. If let's say you had a friend yeah who was a guy and that guy just had the does all the hormone says the transition into female mill and she's a fucking ten lauda if yapping and then you started dating her together to that make you a gay man. I don't think thanks so not really right. I mean because some of them are so feminine. Well okay so explain to me how i'm gay if the person used to be but now has huge hits a crazy ass and a full mouth and a makeup dono no. That's not what i was. You can't interrupt me. I know you can't interrupt me with sucking and cock because what happens is i go. I you just let me off no. I didn't say that strange 'cause i don't wanna push out of the way that'd be a distraction for both both of you can't have a big old route airtel you my friend who saw my route and he goes. You got a good route on you. Man as we left the car because things that happen sure i was hanging with this girl he was hanging and maybe we're in. We were in view of each other and he goes dead. Series goes good time good to hang with libro. Hey you gotta you gotta respectable route housing five-man hill wiz atlanta bro saying serious and shake my hand like it's an accomplish ranged changed the don't don't don't it's not an accomplishment good route on human dude. I was doing a late night midnight. Set at the improv last night and jeff ross and craig robinson weather and jeff ross going through this what remind me of a transgender he's doing the roast of caitlyn jenner yeah and he's going through his jokes right now and i think he's shooting it soon and they are show frigging <hes> the fire. It's so good they're obviously super offensive because his gender share it so fire and then jamie kennedy supposed to close the show but crag in ja- jessica he's ready to go. He's doing the roast on comedy central so he's you know high and tight ready to go so they're doing it killing the crowd and the he's a great who's next jamie kennedy in the back. You know jamie gains back. You has no just keep going man. I can't follow this just just end the show and he goes well. I'll come up there with you and i thought god i would not go up on that stage with jeff ross right now in row smote yeah. He's getting jeff. He's trying to leave the guy you get up early and jamie's like i'll go up there. Jim kinney goes up there and jeff lit him. Come fire. I was gonna leave. I was a gallon matter. It's so weird to just get off. I stayed all my god really on because he called me up on stage and interviewed me as chris walking but i thought he was gonna completely roast me and i was like jeff. Apologize roast mode right now so i'm attacking everybody's nothing but my off yeah jayme kenneth can be an easy target it dude. It was fucking yeah jeff channel. Oh that's his thing. He's the master. He's the fucking rose master. I did the one of the best friends last night. After fourteen hour day. I'm grabbing a bite and and i got a text you close on my oh. I said yes to a gig and it was at the venice underground. Have you done the venice underground house. Gotta get you up. It's it's it might be in some ways best room in an interesting for me it is it might be the one wednesday nights. It might be the best room like in l._a. And a lot of really far for me to bring up the venice on the ground take it with you one time backyard no man it's underground and the oldest bar and is it a where the windward circles yep. That's great. I want something. I forget who i went there with. I need you to do it. I want to do it. It's not it's far for you. I know but it went in one year one wednesday night we'll do it. We'll do a set the comedy store and then we'll drive down. That'd be done for that because we can do it. At like ten thirty yeah packed. It's always packed and it's hard to walk around the meaning when you walk through there one time i remember that longtime ago really low ceilings yet dark dark burlesque show after yeah that's right. It's getting a little dicey. Did i did it last night and then the burlesque shows talking with my old neighbor and that's that's the stairs which is an amazing bar real grit speakeasy. It's called townhouse <hes> okay and we did <hes>. It's funny because i was. I did my set. I'm talking to my boy and then <hes> i there's a burlesque show and the ladies come out and there's she they're dancing. She's dancing housing to in stockings and she's dancing on the floor to baby. I'm the only one that she and i got a little embarrassed. This is going to be sound me buck man. I was like you're you're dancing around in fish nets but it was it was but it was just a you're not stripping. You're also kind of stripping. Here's why it's a bummer yeah when she moved to l. a. She's thought choosing me. Julia roberts dude fuck. She's dancing into that. Yeah on the floor is all filthy and not to be addict but it wasn't a stage. I feel we've all been everybody's been sitting there watching comedy with their feet now they move the chairs and she's sliding around. I was like dude. She's really is the least of her and she's doing somersaults in and i'm like everybody's kind of sitting. There and i'm like that looks looks like a really strong cry for attention and it's not the artistry is a little lacking. It just bummed me out and i looked at i gotta get outta here and beans you throw or any cash. Ask didn't throw her. Any cash just ran away. I felt it's exactly what i felt. I felt bad for you. Feel you feel bad. She's probably great and i just felt fucking shitty. I had a group of throw ice at me last night on stage at the improv what group against set me way you heard my mexican bit and they got married. You know yeah yeah and they threw i._c._u. They threw ice yup. What happened the securities and kick him out. I'm like no. I'm stay stay limps day and i just kind of clown them for a little bit. I want him over yeah by the yeah they just. I need to know that you're not being they know. I mean everyone's having a great time. They know but it was like drunk one so all day. Here's the last bit of it. I don't like this trump tag that perhaps they hear that trump guy in this ice did she have tits on her and the only reason getting kicked out huge debts this the only reason i sent a letter say i did it and she threw is she threw ice yeah uh-huh big titties though so i said you stay. I think that's the right move. Dom never throat never never never kicked you out double down but it also gives me something to talk talk to them yeah. It was late latest one kid. What are they gonna do. Include them this. Yeah this the <hes> i had a woman i did this africa bit about how white celebrities adopt black babies and because you know it's like a fucking. It's like an accessory right like the more the famous area the more black babies yet and i do this whole thing about but they can never adopt they can adopt american black baby. Just drive over in south central and get your care but no too the oldest to africa first class yet. It's his bit and it crushes it crushes and there's one woman this like that and i go what's wrong white white girl of course we'll super super woke. The super woke are the white the white privilege ones i go. I dug wells in uganda and aw aw did you dig wells. Are you protecting. The continent africa white girl are you standing up for the africans are making making fun of people like you virtuous signaling fucking yoyo. It's just unbelievable. Holy mr joke just missing and i just stopped and i try to debate. Everybody was clapping for me. I'm like you know you don't like black people more than i do and you're not more sympathetic to the cause. Just cause you doug. Wells bitches walk out of here here. They just don't the problem with the super. Woke anybody on either extreme. I don't care if you're the rights to eleven engineered super. You lose your sense of humor because you're you're into orthodoxy. Not open minded at all this judge there made up their mind. The truth is no winning the truth. Yeah i mean it is what it is. You're as i told you you're the antonio brown of your cast dude. Yes you see what's going on with them today. I bet at you every pittsburgh steeler fans like there. You go the fuck that we tell you. There was the problem so i don't remember he had so he's the best receiver lease the best receive in the league so he goes right pictures. Get the fuck outta because he was a cancer and he's talking about all the team so he goes to the the raiders trade trade for him. Everyone's like all this can be great eight for derek carr. He's going to be such player so that he gets there and then he's not practicing because he doesn't have the right helmet. He's wanted this helmet but you don't have the right helmet so i think everyone seems like forty one. If you watched hard knocks on hard nuts and john goons i you know i'm not mad at him. I wish that practice but he sticking up for something that that he respects in that he stands for our first house. Americans don't let me see sticking up for something and you know that's fine me okay cool but it's a little weird helmet. What are we doing. You paid so much money nen yesterday they for missiles practices is just this is standard practice. Is you find that's the rules. If you don't practice you find so they find. I'm fifty four thousand dollars which isn't much to him shitload of money so he shows up practice next day tries to fight the g._m. Of the team for finding tries to fight the yeah tries to find so say allegedly fern to hit him in the face yup. I wonder if some of this is a c._d. I i think some of this is <hes> d._t. Diva yeah. I think he's a bit of a diva. Okay yeah detail much. Is he getting how much busy making <hes>. I'm not sure but anytime you try to fight the g._m. Basically brought you on board and here's here's the thing he's not what the team you know like a lot of respect them. Four year extension worth sixty eight million nineteen million guaranteed the make and brown the highest paid receiving then fell. That's he's the he's the. I wouldn't want him on my team but he's the best diva cancer has. He always been that what you always always well. I shouldn't say always but at once he started to get to that level of elite then he can then you can act like that and people put up. Why did yeah yes but the minute you stop producing actors who the minute there movie star doing poorly c._e._o. Later wh- what what why did he leave pittsburgh they they want out of it. They day answer. He's playing the league but he was talking shit on everyone and do they traded him. Wow hey it's ullmark. You watch you watch him on hard knocks in the season finale on tuesday. Watch hard knocks kids and you're like he seems like a cool. Do you like it probably is but he's also a diva was keyshawn johnson. That's what i was thinking about. The other day who wrote a book called all most receivers. I get that level a lot a lot of them. Have these insane egos man yeah and it's it's so there's this kid right. There's three kids are adorable but they they're sitting that practice and the one little boy you know antonio brown and ben rothlisberger hate each other right up turmoil hate each other want says this why he left wants as this why they were losing so so they hate each other better off burs more valuable yeah for sure but so there at the practice shows the little kids and his little son you know he's it's like threes like tigers h come back to the old on so it sounds like threes i- tigers h._b._o.'s papa where's rothlisburger at sea sauce camera. He has ideas. He's like government-owned brand news but he's he's not here this. The different team is we're s- bana. Where's uncle something like that. It's funny man have a problem <hes> ah don't but don't dire mustache blond like don't do that. Can't we can't do that. Don't do you think gables that county in miami where all like there's a shitload n._f._l. Players come out of there. He's one of those guys okay yeah because the university of miami is no not us for him but he didn't go areas from an era here. I think it's <hes> coral gables earl game. That's right cora games. It's a similar area where where it's like all the the super ballers come out yeah. It's just a freaky. It's such a bummer man with antonio brown's just what makes him so good. What what is hey <hes>. It's one on one coverage too fast too good of a rat runner amazing hand out smart smart as far as smart football i._q. Real smart yeah but he's so far like one on one and they talk a little bit on hard nuts. He's literally impossible to cover bracket him. No there's not a corner in the league because he can. He can break he can. He can just writing in his route running so so good. I still root for a man just such a bomber yeah well. Let's go ahead and they show the kids. Let's let the kids get a mustache out of there and also let's get a better attitude and have that now okay usually pretty cool hairstyle cool fashion but that that mustaches nightmare you know i am what what's like when he's going through all this turmoil with the pittsburgh steelers then he's on on that <hes> that bullshit show on i think's the worst show ever be created where there were like monsters singing like who has it. Oh yeah amass yeah ms show hit though that's the that's the problem yeah yeah an o._j. Simpson eh million followers on twitter is the problem with the world in the mass seniors and the number one came from korea and i wonder if translated it doesn't translate. It's a what the fuck is happening right now and they're all let me guess is my favorite the judge they guess they go let me guess man you. You say you grew up singing. Is it elton john stupid so elton john. It's famous people like the masks in behind the mask. Yeah famous lawyers entertainers so tony brown was one of them but he was singing. He's doing something yeah never said no to gigging and that ryan reynolds yeah he was. He was in the korean. One ryan reynolds isn't on america one. It's the best guess is like. You said you grew up. Dancing hip pop. Okay is connie west kind. He's not doing your show now. Hunt is doing yourself a weird. It's always like <hes> you know. It's like be level. You know what i'm saying. They never get it right either like it's not like is it tori spelling i i did a fucking thing for fox where me and another actor had to pretend. We were compl- totally in the tori spelling we were doing the skits and we're like well there. She is yeah and i was never very attracted to her of course and and i was too young to have said who wrote this. Oh go fuck yourself. You definitely not like. I was like i'll do anything you told me to do. You know it's tough while go is. She looks like my grandma. She had a tough time because she was never will her dad right now. It's just that she was around so many beautiful people as a young girl and she wasn't classically beautiful like her mother and and like us those the ugly duckling it was and so she got so what happens if she's an actress she gets put in because her dad is a television television icon. She gets plastic surgery. It's terrible to be that you feel like it's very hard on me. She don't look like wendy williams. If there's white chicks two there's there's the lecture on photograph of her for sure no. I'm just saying growing up in this fucking town twelve your regular looking gal and they get yeah. She starved herself and you could see i remember i remember nice girl nice fucking girl. I grew up in the biggest house in southern california. It's bigger than the white house. I've been in it and she says of her papa. Oh yeah well her. Dad dad for one christmas. Don't go ahead hedging wide why it had her dad had snow brought in had no sheen's. Oh aaron spelling's bell <hes>. He created every free t._v. Show he was aided. Multi-billion probably everybody aaron. Spelling was the biggest manon t._v. He was a tv legend and <hes> and she grew up with this legend and she said i have to be a nausea in in in a movie star and you know she wasn't her destiny wasn't this you know her mama. Is that a mobster mama. Her mama was the hottest thing on her her. Momma was the hottest thing she was in bed when she was younger though but she wasn't the only the gorgeous like the girls on nine hundred now but you have to see her mom her mom was so hot candy spelling when she was younger the biggest hits the biggest the she was barbie. She said it she goes. I was barbie and i was bringing to barbados melted on when she was younger. Forget it what i worked with her. She cuba's delicious but especially when she was younger not but i guess i'm sorry she kicked off yeah. No that's so much either way though you know younger what is what is hollywood is tough hollywood. They're all when you put your when you when you decide you want to be there when she was she's pretty crazy curves and but when you decide hi that you know when when you're in this town where beauties commodity and you're not and you decide to get into that business you can have some trouble the new though it's on you the thank you being upset if you get criticized as a u._f._c. fighter or get mad because you got a black guy you know or if your football player you get your bell rung leads literally what you're signing up for. Yes fear in the infotainment entertainment. It's pretty cutthroat man. I just had a conversation. I'm going through negotiations with showtime yesterday <hes> right now for you know my contracts and and in september so they there's been ongoing negotiations and they called me yesterday. Go okay. We got this and he'll do. You assure you want us to tell you exactly what we went over. What oh definitely don't sugar trust me. Let's get to the bottom shit. Can you can just hit me with exactly what they're bringing to the table and they italian like it's nothing. It's nothing i haven't here. A capitalist is what am i worth. Here's the worth here's what i think i'm more. Let's look at that. They you say this. I say this we meet somewhere in the middle. That's all it's called negotiatia. What the one time boy thick skin now like haters or social media were anything doesn't really get to me because <hes> obviously when you're fighting critiqued all the time but i remember lexus man who is still deal with shout the lettering kills it from your piece great great so he was negotiating my contract when it was up in the ride in the car and he goes out joe sills call. It's about your contract and he is odd just com back. I don't want you here to give back. Just don't he goes. You won't see a wouldn't say we're just just answer the con- just answer the call in the car. I'm i'm a big boy. I can handle it legs. I wish i never did that. Dude i mean your your horse. Your horse trade hot any high. I hope trainy insecurity you ever had about being a fighter. I can like better. This was dude. You're just he's talking about. The most vile venom you've ever heard about yourself and he got off and goes in mexico's and that was a mild called rant from him. That was a mild rant because i've had he goes if i if i all my clients let them listen the negotiations. They would all quit. I said i'm looking to quit cheese buddy. Who's i try to tell you my buddy who is a very big director. He said he said <hes>. I stopped. Stop taking not getting auditions personally. When i had a long talk with him. He said well dude. Let me tell you how it goes. Let me tell you what it is. It's all horse trading all right if you want about him. We don't like him but we'll give him. If you give this because we need and it's just like you'll see is not like the horse-trading no it's what is it then. It's just like like not like what what the fuck yatama. He lost this guy this he did this. These are the there is no like there's not like i i can see that it's cut and dry. It's very he'll take this and shot up going to go and then finally he goes. You know lex. Go somewhere else then. We don't need anybody buddy. Go somewhere else then like all right. Well okay well. What was it it's silva did a good job. Then you'll brilliant man he i've i i used to have like animosity towards him and the u._f._c. brass joseph is a brilliant brilliant man he did he was great at picking and great and that's because rogan told me they'd it'd be up on like that's the that's the nature of the game. That's why he's there yeah. He was a brilliant man yeah but you gotta you gotta realize helps. That's a fighter how sensitive you are like when i when i fought lavar johnson or i should even go back even before that when i grow up before that crop pat burying him beat them right but they were so friendly that it wasn't in the fight that it should have been. I remember when i got the fight. They flew me out to do some announcement and jo. L. civil comes up and goes. You better not play fucking patty cake with him. You better job silva's five six yeah. He's in my face going. You better not play patsy fucking doc in slap with him. You better kick. His ass was like of course cheese so that happens rate great fight for me. Knock-about then i get lavar johnson right <hes> short few fights after that i get lavar johnson and i asked for the fight i saw some weaknesses in his game and it was a we were the main event on fox so we're the big fight right before the pay per view which is super important while i'm not gonna fucking trade blows lavar come and take him down to one million times flawless victory for me. I didn't get touched but whatever so there. I am a third one in this one yeah what do you i knew us can take some ship for it. So i just took him down over and over and over luke. Our was his cornermen by the way oh really was talking to me in in the back he was. I love look yeah. You don't you don't wanna fight the fuck you talking about pretty boy. I didn't really know luke at the time so joseph. <hes> is in the back any season. I go when's win. You know most take downs in in a long time in the heavyweight division and you just fucking believable keeps going on the god damn and then lex goes and then i always ask excuse i would have liked to be filtered where we at man. Let's go camping. I like that again but i- dominated him. They can't like god out dan if you would and that's really fighting john yet if i would've lost that one that would have cut me you went to the judges and the reason the judges gave me like a shitty decision which you'd have to be blind destroyed him but they would cut me again. Here's like when you're in your show sensitive and it's like but that's the nature of the boldness of course in the n._f._l. Buffalo why you think oh you think you have see is brutal because that you're dealing with less guys more one on one very black and white with n._f._l. Well it's not as black and white right because there's some guys who are really good who get cut. What's hard knocks you watch some of these guys like how the fuck economic theme just a numbers game and this guy knows this guy and maybe he played with this guy's dad whatever this guy made it over him the n._f._l. They're just like yeah man you just you're not good you you just that there's not a fit to slow right. Yes the ball you know. Let's try to backed up to a big deal now. I've only been working on this since i was seven. I did always wonder why you were pretty fearless. I always call you fearless with stand up you would just go up no matter what and what the competition was and but after i've always been like from so i guess you have. You've always got talent shows. Just not just not afraid if maybe if you already are you just do it. It's got the most people are just afraid. I mean including me well. People are afraid you know but one of these notices that i'll see people behaving living in a way where i'm like i you know as i get older. I gotta be honest. I mean i see people whose lives depend on behaving a different way than their lives because they have an villainous or whatever and they just don't and i go. What do you mean changing their diet when they're sick. Oh i know you're going to die crazy. <hes> you're going to die. I'm there is science suggests you should eat this way because it'll really help you and it might they don't do and they don't do it. In fact they continue to do this and you go or even somebody. I helped out who had a child and i i try to help them with scientists. I know and they just didn't pull the trigger occur and i go. You realize this is much bigger than help you know what to do. This is some weird psychology. You have to get you. Gotta get out of your own fucking way as most people are in their own fucking. I know what what's like my grandma the didn't know growing up but you know obscene because my grandpa had and <hes> lung cancer from smoking so much and the doctor tells them hey he has yes stage four lung cancer. There can be no smoking in the house. No smoke in the house. Gra has often carry on my grandma's nights on of course smoking like a chimney. I'm like did you not. I'm for you heard the fucking. They've already decided not figure that because they have it's it's. It's it's it's a i. I really think eddie before i sit again. Success is really about learning how to talk to yourself and how to get out of your way. How do you get out of your own way everything else. I hear these people call me up. I get this whole time the two but i- i- indulgent i get questions people will go. Hey can i pick your brain on this now. But you know the answer you know the answer. You're asking me a bunch of fake questions because this this is more procrastination by the way they want you to help them. You're not gonna listen to me but you're not gonna lose my experience. My case study being fifty two. Is it almost no one. Almost no one does it. No one does what do you mean would the vice you give them. Yeah i mean. I don't know i always tell you yeah. There's no one fucking takes the advice and nobody that you're not really asking for advice. You just want to feel safe for a little foot. Look seven foot long. It does looks. It's like it's the longest but of all time. It looks like you can ski on those huge long. You know bro. Is there something interfering with your happiness or preventing preventing you from achieving your goals you ever think about that. Well look sometimes. You never talked to somebody. Somebody who you can talk to that. 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I didn't see the for i know the original movie which i thought was amazing so goofy when you look for remembers to eib is to v._h._s. says even the first time was it a first skids second one where they were adults this one. I like jessica chastain so much. I have an inappropriate such such a good actor and i think she's finished. Last night was <hes> minehunters on net flicks. Oh yeah it's so good. I'm trying. I think they're going to go on for like six seasons because they're starting because they developed the whole serial killer kind of <hes> branch and f._b._i. That johnny johnny douglas who's phenomenal <hes> great books so he started it and right now. They're just that they're just into the btk killer. They just got done with the atlanta killing. They do the real the real oh it's all based off true story on joe. Johnny douglas the actual guy create the division. Yeah is like in the he. He helps with the show he 'cause he. There's a guy who plays so you're actually seeing oh yeah oh but it's just dramatize it's wildly but they're going to have a sense of their minds and it's amazing yeah it's amazing and how they're hunting them down and they're and they're interviewing previous via serial killers to try and figure out how they're going to catch just one like what were your motives. Would you go back to the murder sites. <hes> why these victims and they they put together profile all so they can catch the k. guys such a piece of shit. Is that what people in my business. We call that a mark and he's acting like he's he. He's he's just acting like. He's got some kind of a career at it. You know it's just what are you talking about. The btk bind torture kill this guy dennis rader the of the syracuse that guy yeah yeah when they interviewed him he ever see the interview. He's crazy yeah well. They're interviewing him and he's the head of his true drove by and i i said that would be that'd probably be a good mark right there and my business we call that a fucking set people but they interview him and he's very matter of fact the the doc kemper the if typing kemper on mine hunters the way. I'm telling you they get it down to a t the the actors and the real killers it's looking at this was the closest i look at this. It's insane. Jesus really good because kemper was eight horrible circular really horrible which strangle girls and boys and horrible killed his mom ripped or thrown <music> out lettering severed her head oh so he he added to the only reason he got custody. Turn himself in. He was a really smart guy highest i._q. They've ever had it uh-huh yes. That's right in fact ed so there's a story did they have this thing where the the f._b._i. Profiler is sitting there interviewing him and he goes. You can kelly right now right. 'cause you know the cards shift right now and this is their shift and there's just no they said that johnny douglas is the guy who came up with all this the profiles for show killers others say he's the smartest person he's ever scent that downs like jesus christ. He wouldn't be caught if he didn't wanna get caught. That's what's scary. Wow what's crazy is the atlantic the atlanta murders of all black children. There's twenty nine of them. They still haven't they haven't solved in heaven. They solved to oh they and they got one. The killers there is that was the guy atlantic day at two but they can victim to adult murders they they're still not they still don't link him to the chip child murders but because they they were like no he did it in the murders. Stop arbel but in but i was watching this documentary on it you you any the parents from all the murder children like this guy didn't <unk> fucking kick the is out there like and they think it was multiple people. They don't think it was justice. Guy crazy shit man yeah yeah well. <hes> wayne williams these monsters. Oh my god while i was telling my girl because in atlantic atlanta atlanta keeps in atlanta city but but in atlanta <hes> kids were just going missing and their kids like playing outside and doing stuff in he would get them supposedly by saying. Oh i have a talent contest and i'm a manager adjourned you get them in studio and then whatever you know murder him but <hes> you know twenty nine kids go missing in summer. She's tigers not he's not going now the school any back then we're gonna shut it down. I remember i was in the eighties early. Seventy s remember. I remember <hes> pretty well. I was a kid but remember crazy right into monia. Remember i remember my aunt debbie. You should always from school and sometimes she couldn't. She's you know the the big thing was kids going up -ducted in vans. How's the big thing though yeah i can fucking van australia. Put on <hes> instagram. These guys come up with ways to do things with remember when mitch rouse telling us that the kid went missing in a walmart or something and they shut everything down but then they found the kid <hes> in the bathroom he'd been <hes> he'd been dressed up. He had his head shaver. She had her head shaved. That's right and put in boys clothing yep. I mean these people prepare the stuff. Oh yeah they try to think of all angles none not on impulse on premeditated well even that that he was so cerebral about it it then his i._q. So high he would stop the calm the co ed killer food stop and see young and girls hitchhiking and he'd he'd come and go where he is all preconceived to make him feel safe. You'll where you're going yeah. He said you'd always like look. It is watch like just a little too far. Yeah sorry go all right and they keep talking like you know what all right and the door would always be locked because like so. He said it would trigger them like a safety thing like oh this guy in the car. You didn't have time to drop me off might all right huge unlocked the door for him and he goes every time they'd get in. They felt safe would kill them or one. I think you'll move move on from killings after this one person was his neighbor and his neighbor drinking buddies and he killed his neighbor's kid is they were drinking buddies and the neighbor goes yeah you know in their time about kids abducted and he goes our our passwords unicorn mention it while they're drunk right so he's like oh and he said assume as he told me that i knew i was gonna murder. Was this the guy who lifted up the car. Yeah he goes. I knew i was going to murder his kid as soon as he gave me that password. So the you know the kids go it was the murderer he was like fourteen so the kid was walking with a friend and he knew that there and he pulled up and he did a trial run and went. Hey al i'll give you write a school or how did school today and i'll take you to go see the pig farm because there's a pig farm and the cool so say. They did that just to see if she was comfortable with it. The pig farm months go by. He realized there walking is hey wanted to school. Go the pig farm to. I'll take both us plant killed both her and her friend and the friend's terms like nam had a weird feeling and then sure enough. She gets in the car but this hour we got caught because she was a widow. The only reason you get no not at all he he joined the the the the touting shot. It was like let's go over here and then even found the body. He's a terrible man. Nice cat crazy right yeah. That's what they do kampelman narcissist and they wanna be famous of course. I don't really think you can like they caught the btk killer by basically dissing him in one way or they're like yo. He's not around anymore. Got caught no he. I got here like like fucking for almost twenty years later. I don't know he got from <hes> d._n._a. Evidence oh. I thought i thought he wrote like they wrote wrote. Somebody wrote something basically saying he's dead. He's not. I'm still fucking around. I'm still alive always send. You always go straight to the media because they want to create this near. Even his own name lucky we had serious eleven communications to look media led directly to his arrest in february two thousand damaged damning two thousand five yeah how crazy that he started killing people in nineteen seventy four yeah. Here's here's what i was thinking about just today. I was watching this. We behind the scenes thing online hundreds because i finished the season early. Warning is if you're serial killer. Now you've really i. I can get the same like these guys you know whatever legends or the fuck will celebrate them but bike. There's these they get they turn these monsters and they get books and movies renting balance this day in age when it happened now. There's too much content. You'd be you'd be the subject of the week yeah thinking of mass shooters. They killed more people than these stupid fog yup mass users users stupid fox the mass shooter. Can you name the kid who shot up the the walmart in texas. They do it on purpose now. They don't highlight these dumb. I'm wrong but the thing is is you're. You're the you're the you're the flavor of the weak moment. They think they're gonna go down in history like song by kids somehow different time you more yeah so now how they do it all right well. We have a problem with out now. It's not about who does it upsets white males most time. It's not about them. It's about how are we going to figure out it's going to happen. It's going to happen. We don't acknowledged that dummy anymore right so they're not in favor they might get fame from their dorky friends in the forms that they were going to do it so you still just that dorky forum but as far as getting national exposure the media has figured that out they don't even show their face. They talked about the victims and even the victims you the flight but again the sad thing. Is you the flavor of the week yeah. You're not gonna be cemented in history dummies. There's too many there's too much continent that that's yeah. I heard that <hes> on rogina who's that the congressmen with the eye patch credential yeah dan. I like i like him. I like his eye patch but he said he said that only point eight six percent of all murders are caused caused by assault weapons. He said he said <hes> doing say hammers. Harris kill more people yeah i is that i mean his eye patch and it looks like smart. Here looks cool when it doesn't have the strap on it. It looks like it's photo shop new. Doesn't that look photoshop cows it. I guess he studied them. Yeah he's started. We talked about him. A while back. David with some youtuber came after he was like bro. Just chill out davidson. Don't think look says bluetooth and the three lights handsome guy smart got to. He's very sleep. Is it true. Can you look that up is is it true. More people die by amerson guns. Find that very hard to believe. I believe that he's a handgun should shitty knows he's on. He says it he's a fact checker. That guy's thorough more people were killed by goes on the second one done. I don't believe on the his quote. More people killed by hammers clubs than right that makes sense because hammers and clubs are more villas access to yeah so should we ban hammers right told her two thousand and hammers and clubs. I would kill with rifles of any kind yeah. Hold on hold on figure four four hundred sixty seven people were killed with blunt object while four and three were killed by rifles <hes> but hunting rifles that also counts. I guarantee that's hunting accidents. That's also hunting killed by rifles. You're talking about mostly you got. Wu see suicide and accidents are huge so you got to bring that into into it is it is an interesting when hillary clinton talks about gun violence and she's sites these things she's she's conflicting suicides and accidents inch. That's a fucking lie and she's and she knows better and the left. Does that a lot and it's just not. They're not being honest being fucking honest. You gotta be honest. You got to be honest with intentional homicides also a lot of it's criminal on criminal stuff so you know that's crazy. Though more people get a hammer club blunt object than guns it makes sense though 'cause impulsive kill someone rifles include bolt action pump action single shot semiautomatic that probably includes shotguns as well as as as well as those left describes his assault weapons this means only a percentage of the four hundred and three deaths attributed to rifles foles carried out by an assault weapon so interesting yeah it is when you get into the details you like oh shit. I don't follow it closely enough yeah. I thought there's no but he is a politics house. In five hundred people were killed with knives or cutting instruments. That's a lot one thousand thousand five hundred fifteen hundred i would assume because those are the this means nearly four times people were stabbed death and killed with any kind of reifer i would assume because those those the passions of crime those aren't done with guns usually those are done with knives and hammer yeah so have you had a band saw weapons. He's still not going to really put them mm-hmm. You put some sensational crimes though it's so fucking unforgiving when somebody comes into a club and blasts everybody so that's it's understandable that everybody's like you. You know that we all go well. We ought to do something. We all want to do. Something you do sound whatever doings up working something. I'm not sane gun gun and let me train. I'll gun. I think you should try. You should learn how to use it. You should fuck and be trained. I don't know how to do that. I don't think that's gonna stop what's going yeah but education and training really important if you own guns in my opinion let's go to current events sure you know i only mess with one coffee. One cuffy only altamont coffee that makes an impact on the veteran community gives back to veteran causes. They make the best cup of coffee on the plan. I'm talking about black rifle rival founded by former special op dudes who are the salt of the earth. 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She's saying that her neighbors are doing this because they are trying to make her life basically a living hell. She thinks that them using their backyard barbecue is impeding on her ability to use her backyard and she also citing that their kids playing basketball in the backyard is also impeding on her ability to live right next door. Styles are kind of sounds like a cut. Is there anything worse than a neighbor. She sounds all the kids can't play basketball. Here's the thing they're grilling fish. Fish really doesn't smoke or stink now if he he was doing like a full rack of beef ribs. It's on the grill for the smoker for twenty hours. Even then shut your fucking trial so you know yeah shut up up also shut up and she took it all the way to try to get it heard by the supreme court each and every court has denied her that no one has time for this. I'll have time. We'll move your cooking. Also your chance. Are anybody move next. Who's guinea. Meet your cooking outside too so so i did. I did hear those <hes> those those <hes> vegan burgers the wha the whopper at beyond beyond is impossible beyond impossible is like one version of beyond me. All kings have those impossible burger now the beyond meat burgers. Yes they're phenomenal. I'm sure teach us like here's the thing i used to your vegan school but it's still not healthy for real realized that is probably more healthy. Just eat the beach. I made in a lab. We go the health. It also shouldn't be burkey for my mouth. Watering water jude my favorite burger on this planet and the rest of you can suck my mom also now you take on that seed bun at soft c._d. Bun yeah walker with cheese catch only really because you like to feel like breaking my while two of them diet coke fuck your fries the operas to me the best burger on on <hes> <hes> as far as fast food goes but it's better than in and out i think in and out is so overrated. That's not it jin in and out as this shit to me. What a shitty. What a shitty. Hambur looks like even even the picture. It's like guys dim possible. That's the impossible burger while broucci's only man god god. The thing is it's a measure is impossible for them. Was s._m._u. Had a big mac ten in years ago. Maybe more didn't feel good after i feel great after he did some. My dad was starving when he got off the plane plane yeah last week so i'm like what do you want anything anything. It's close. It's ten o'clock. I don't know man so we're chick-fil-a is easy. It was driving me nuts. He he's <hes> he's like al thanks for the food right tim and my stepmom and they're in the streets but alex rodriguez. I'm that chick flan over forty years school only been around for thirty. Let's go. I yes now shooting a scene and tim meadows meadows had kraft singles on the table for you know for the scene and looking to single yeah kraft singles cheese so i'm looking at it like the <hes> just just <hes> square cheese. I'm looking at it and i go there. Good i go. Oh i'm eating one and i it was still the the fuck out of it and it was so good i go god. That's good god damn it. That's good some american. Food is just delicious. Oh come on and there's a place called that frank it grows a member of the <hes> the samba sunday bungalows. It's like this exclusive place where when you go there they put a sticker on your fucking camera your phone camera cameras that like all these stars there. They hand out late night grilled cheese american grilled cheese grilled cheese. Eat shit out of those nice higgin machado. Who's a great guy. He just and we were eating the fuck. Fuck out of those those grilled cheese. They were like that exactly like that. I'll eat that right now. I'll eat it now a little girl cheese. I'll take that i'll take take a minute. That's what they hand out. I'm mean grilled. Cheese is growing up how do you how do you do it. How do you get like i i i wouldn't even know doing how do you make butter and then you you you make the sandwich right now. He's like so butter butter cheese yup and then i put it on the to pay it. They grill one side too little toasty. Flip it real that side. That's it and the cheese melts oh do now. How do you not uh-huh grilled cheese but i want to make them growing up. I had a staff <hes> i. I don't know i would just i would just stand there and open my mouth. It would be put in my mouth my mouth with ham to ham. That's fucking good to see now. You switch it up. I enjoy this. I want the cheese. I'm gonna grill should go where it's a little for g._t._e. Juice a mouse water me neither oh i have to be on set myself those who different events oh what is next students. Let's do some current so kevin har- is currently facing some backlash for an interview he did. He did a while back that just came out. It's <hes> in regards cards till to him saying that lull gnaws x. Coming out wasn't that big of a deal. I saw and i saw what he was saying. Yeah interviewed tim's a tiny clip. That's going viral and with all that early success you felt it was important to make an announcement douglas game in the world god. That was somebody who cares. That's actually my question. Why philo was necessary to come out and say that day like is like being forced is just like neue roya growing up like i'm grown. I'm growing up to hate this shit. I'm not supposed to go haywire homo sex drunk why people come on now. Why are you really from the you know you like you know like this is not something so. It's like for me the cool do who with this song. We'll top of everything to say this any other time by. I'm doing this for attention in my eyes but if you're doing this like why you're at the top for real and it's like sewing like it doesn't really like manner. I guess <hes> yeah certainly automatic heaven for that yeah it doesn't he. They interrupt them as a internet. What he's trying to say brennan was. He was trying to read the whole thing what he was trying to say. Is this was going. Who's he's gone. They shouldn't give you a hard time because it's no big deal. You're just gay so what he that's supporter. He's got a supportive and what they were saying. It's all bullshit. This is a small small group of people being fought on eighty. I've watched clips over time. That's the that's the whole clippers about. Kevin really comes off for the he's gay so what took lomas gnaws ability to say for himself to me derailed downplay the combo like we know no need to discuss it move on. It's not cool. He was just was gay. So what kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin has apologized. He's a fucking good guy. He means everybody everywhere all the best and these are. You're fucking idiots. Leave him alone that he's not the bad guy you dummies. Leave him the faulk allow no. I think it looks a little drunk little buzzer sanely what it's not a big deal that you're gay like he's trying to say. It's a good thing that you know he's very. You'll have to tell people. All my guy is anybody. He's a little little house. Little the point he's like but it is a big deal. Do put it is in the hood in the total. It's the best in the i've talked to famous fucking black actors chris and i think he might've heard kevin talk about this in the hood in the black community. If you come out as gay or you start on you will get it. It's it's it can be a career keller. Our that's right. That's the point here is giving us now. Why it's not big deal in little is like no actually dude. It's kind of a big deal for me. I think kevin was trying to say i it. You know so what exactly you know what he was trying to do but people stranded sounds like he's on fire kidde. We just interrupt people so he gives us yeah. That's what we do. That's what kevin does he's the best <hes> i haven't heard acting like you know why would be scared to come out as like sewn <hes> who stole the thing you lost. I've got people here's the thing is. The media just wants to jump on all everything again again. None under this matters all this will be gone by friday and today yard all heaven little little nauseous. He's probably like i don't give up also buzzfeed and all these. He's fucking want it you. You don't care you don't matter you. Just you're just looking for click. How many people are dave chapelle special now and all the uproar but i'll how about how about this the does the critics gave them seventeen percent. The fans gave him a hundred percent so yeah so again the critics who are activists and <hes> little shitheads shot up you know they had to pull the pull his account though on rotten tomatoes in iambic d.c is so many trolls went on there to give them a negative rating yeah yeah next one so the eagles offensive lineman were <hes> in the e._s._p._n. Body issue and their photos as well as their interview is getting a lot of traction. Play this clip you show the pictures. The interviews like five minutes locking this awesome. Oh god is it fats healthy again now. They're having somebody cloudy with. Hold on hold on. These are fat dudes. There's a lot of fatness picture a lot. Oh no no no they are not healthy <hes>. They look just big muscle too though right. Oh yeah that'd be a lot of a fast though fellas well samoan samoan shit going on guy in the middle doesn't look fat at all. I just looked big as jack jack to white guy the linemen with the bald head lose fat guy <hes> pity of health those guys say it to. They were asked a question in the interview. What would they do after football and allow them said that they're excited to get lighter and not have to eat to gain so much weight is is on their legs and shit. I mean those guys are just also huge men so ben got some belly may begin. The far right has straight up tits so i'm more literary source celebrate this like oh fat. A lot of people are celebrating it because it's a body positive but they don't look bad they. They just look big and kind of big media. Do some look all right some fat delbra. He'd hope this here's my problem. I hate a week sep this now. This is and you know why everyone accepts accepts it because most people looked at that's why we're all like no i can't do that. No there's just no fat. No i also like the fact that you say it's not healthy. You're not as healthy as you could. Red bay and stop acting like that's what football requires so for their position. You have to be as big as possible but also nimble on your feet so there. Those are all linemen usually usually. I think there's a little more a little thinner right. No just depends if they're d- tackles some thirty years. If you're if you're a d. tackle you've gotta be a faster right. I mean you gotta be. You'll be pretty explosive. Look up <hes> aaron. Donald is the best player in the league. He's defense alignment think he's six to. Let's go to <hes> shirtless. Pick shirtless yeah. This is what this is. What you want to celebrate the body issue this what should be chases click on the second one inch chasing three hundred pounds <hes> well. He's a he. He might be like to ninety. I tell you what he is lord my lord. I'm sorry about body issue in those guys wow this. This is a free. This should be on your of your magazine. Not the fact is yeah. It's a big fella does play on the number one three hundred pounder. I might be to seventy. I forget what he is but he's an enormous best. Plainly everyone's trying to do is wait for mention six six one short to four shorts saudi guy thick fella and he is a defensive defensive tackle. Yeah yeah makes a lot of money. I'd imagine oh yeah super bowl but else we got. This is for brian alex hano on the also on the body issue. Yeah check out some of the picks here yeah so there's one year he's already studying. Dare engrained them in my brain know them live them them. I got some more picks here. God damn will use forums vein that right down the top. That's cool. He's a spider. He's a spider a human spider. My favorite one's got posted. We're talking shit to me and andrew shulte. Go not an athlete like nope never said that never said that. I don't think he's the best athlete in the world shred city. Though he got deleted needed a picture they run. This picture got deleted and one of these weird back well. I think the only you'll see fighters. <hes> that's a good picture of that's good good lighting right there that picture ask the point though yeah that's cool now is is one of them is forums nuts. Yeah okay i saw this. Someone tagged us in the stuff to and it didn't it makes sense to me. Something called the glass helmet project. That lebron james is doing. It seemed like it was a joke but if you watch the whole campaign it looks it's like they're serious about this. How outboard is lebron james. This is for basketball no football. Their whole point is when you're a football player your your heads. It's covered you guys are even talking about this before the stand famous yeah because they're just this idea l. e. here lebron quick also being apart. We always want to do things that can help empower to athlete and <hes> believe once again. We're doing it. You know go back. Ah football days there was always a stigma about you know players being inside a helmet and not having voice and no one else because he time yeah and no one ever truly knowing that there's actually a person inside there and not taking that seriously so <hes> you know with the great people uninterrupted and us being able to brainstorm and to be able to do some great things <hes> i want to show y'all work bringing its allies which i believe is very important. I'm kid it out man. We'll ballplayer consults for everyone to let you know that you're always more van so this is the first i never been seeing and if you see right here say they will be saying uninterrupted this the he serious. Fear is the first glass helmet behind. It is all these great athletes. They play all wonderful scored. A football will be heard and we'll be saying he's not saying where they are. At the end of the day they are people as well okay our he's joking and there are people gonna when he's making. I see what you're saying. He's trying to say that it's a glass home it because there are more than the helmet so it's a glass helmets so they will be seeing so. Maybe it's just a campaign where they take pictures with it on but brennan. I'm more than this. I'm more than exciting some players. I am a father. I'm a leader here to make an impact. Okay all right well. Yeah i second. I thought he was legitimately trying to do a little confused by the helmet message because if you put padding it you're not going to see them. You're missing the whole thing. Just all is like yeah. It was confusing campaign okay. We decided play football shyam more there now. They don't say there are other causes mike. Will you feel sorry for the millionaires but the other thing is is like we're more than fantasy football players. I'm wearing a hotel state. We know i just wanted you to have a lot of catches my fantasy football. I know your dad and shit like that. Coho though to his point angela was gonna retirement start booing them yeah. They can't you know that makes them feel as a human being man. There are more than football players but this is some other causes. I fight for yeah me too like taco tuesdays what else you got all right. The kevin hart crash there is a couple of updates this one i saw yesterday apparently early the nine one one callers said that he saw kevin hart being taken out of the driver's side of the vehicle by his bodyguards and they took him to the house to get help <hes> <hes> but as of today i guess h._p. Said it was definitely kevin hart that was in the passenger seat due to evidence but it but so use the passer answer sheet so what's the problem if you i mean when i heard about this crash. It was weird because you see him in a video in the driver's seat. Peeling out in the guys is like children out in the later on if c._h._p. Said he was in the passenger seat. I'm going to believe but also you know. He didn't go get an ambulance out his is. He wants to his house yeah so it's kind of weird and why would dry up. No you didn't see that he was on incoherent and his his wife calls and goes. There's something polling on his spine spine sticking out oh his wife also sounded like shoes little buzzer drunk too when you hear on the phones yeah three restrain yeah. It was really weird. I'm sure there's a lot more of the story. I'm sure there's stuff. We don't know for that yeah yeah but he's in surgery right now though he got it was successful surgery he's missing. He's supposed to do some promotional stuff for jones u._b. Three spinal fractures is that what they said and it's lumbar thoracic areas fused vertebrae faulk vertebrae endure very long rehab. He's currently extreme pain heavily medicated yeah. That's that's no joke men. Yeah now that's no joke and he was in the car with his trainer or his his buddies his friend and his wife and she has to be a trainer for an equal heart. Yes wifia. Jared black was supposedly martin. This is in mexico a girl who does a lot of yoga and she does on her back patio. She fell from her balcony eighty feet. No she survived but she has really really bad injuries. It'll take three years to recover eleven hours of surgery. She was considered to be in critical condition as monday had suffered fractures to both legs and arms hips and had said to reconstruct their lives. Maybe three years before she even walks again again. She's twenty three. She's she's pretty. She's young girl pretty. Here's the thing what the fuck were you thinking. I don't know what they're thinking stupid. Shit wasn't thinking though that's doing yoga eighty feet off the back as your feet. That's impressive. A mexican has the road shoes. I'm so she was mexican. Yeah is it mexico fucking tough tough like eat shit all the time then faysal strong shit kevin gasoline. Does anybody have better chins than fucking mexican fighters. Keep going. This is michael rapaport report. I'm sure you guys have seen this by now. I haven't okay this. Is that the big three game and you start to interview this guy. Katina moberly and the guy wants to pretty much kick his ass to access excess with katina mobile who i know which is he was on the cory blair house for yes. I mean man is looking custom sharp casino. This is a tough game killer threes and not playing around. What do you have to say about this game. Mommy i feel like it's a bit live in acton before. Put here's why i must get off of the casino what we just told me he would put hands on me on live t._v. C._b._s. sports big three playoffs. If it happens it happens videotape from my lawyers. Mom dad was great regret run while we had a problem with the i told you i think it's an ongoing bit because another died the more i think i think it's i think it's pretty determined it is conceived really poor. I cannot watch big three. I find it sad sad. Four point for god's sakes i love. I'm glad it's going well for them. All right more sure. This is amazing amazing. This pilot trainee. I guess this is always third lesson. His instructor passed out from a seizure so he had to land the plane himself. Well you hear the audio call here. This guy is super. Good like super cool. After this commercial you could hear the nerves in australian student pilot max silvester voice. I probably probably maury troll operate. The in fact it was maxes third lesson but the landing an aircraft ever and inside the cessna's this is cockpit. Max's flight instructor had just passed out. I'm gonna keep you kids falling down her. Before with max's response was literally fight or flight is tufted situation that you've been learning fun of and you need a reacts incredibly with the towers guidance. Max brought the plane down without a scratch braking nil down on the ground. You might well done. That's amazing issues powders. That flight instructor was rushed straight to the hospital where he's now in stable condition. I should be flat. You look like bradley cooper but you don't in his brother who didn't get the job pro pro probably gonna be a flight instructor. Though you know. Probably you gotta get a little blood pressure issue all right to work. I gotta go act kids all right cool. You know what i'm saying buddy tampa sumi september twenty seven twenty eight at the anthrax tampa improv common samy brennan. Where are you going to be ice house next thursday with my karoo ice house pasadena come by dude yeah i south pasadena shaaban friend that thing is almost sold out one show. Only that's next thursday and i'm in houston houston. September twentieth twenty-first used improv denver's almost sold out la hometown comedy works downtown denver's the twenty six of the twenty eighth of september and then just on sale pittsburgh and philadelphia for october. Get your tickets now. 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You Dude, check dish it out, and it's you training with heartfelt Cordeiro and I remember looking at going Oh shit. What happened? What happened the last time you were in here you were talking about how you didn't want to work out yeah. Because it would ignite the EGO. Hey, let's talk about that too. So. I was discussing my wife about me being no way you know we have to. Sometimes when complaint your wife, you wouldn't take on some. Perspective and she said, well, why don't you kill? 'EM TREADMILL for fifteen minutes a day. I. Just fifteen minutes went from fifteen minutes a day to two hours a day. And That's what you were worried about. Exactly. I was complaining about my weight. I don't know I. Guess I tried on some closing it was disastrous and so i. was worried about my weight and she told me the fifteen minute revenue new in two hours a day and. I started losing weight and then somebody can my brother-in-law Mike I know you're not GonNa win but somebody say, would you fight this guy for forty million, thirty, million but I I wo- The whole thing. Of. The world. Who Fight and said we'll minute and then Bob Sapp with okay and I'm saying to myself why no Bob? Bob Big and strong say hope one minute. How would they like me in the fight him fight in the market for cleaning rule and woman might he asked the guy I said I'll fight them right and Phil Bob Sapp was the first one that was brought up yet. So once and for people don't know Bob Sapp Bob sat was a giant fighter and pride at one time he was like three, hundred, seventy, five pounds. He was fighting although kickboxer solid muscle with APPs incredible right and went from him to somebody else another guy in the made the Knicks Guy, and then somehow know some other fighters van didn't from. Who Else? WHO's another heavyweight champ? Who's just a bunch of guys hearing fight and they know? It came down the Roy. I. I don't know what the Hell's going on and then he signed the contract I found the context thing I'm in the gym again this after. I really do this. You probably know because if you. Get in shape me getting conditioned two different animal. They don't even believe belong in the same. Workout. Vision of working out like shape is just being kind of fit. In shape able to fit your clothes. Right right. You know that's getting in shape being able. Yes. To fit your clothes being condition is being able to come outside of your soul. And you can't do that automatically you're talking about being in fighting condition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a rare state and you can't bit for very long. No it. People need to understand that right the motionless state to prepare for that is. Mind Boggling. That's what I was seeing when I was seeing, you hit the pads and Mike just working out there was something going on man when you were working with Cordeiro when you run into the body and throwing those hooks as like this is a man who's preparing to go to combat. This is not normal getting ready to work out shit. That's why when I saw that video it was like, oh tastes. Video Yeah I did a video and I was in bed for week that was cody seconds. I was in bed for a week. And it's not funny because it made me realize that. This. Shit okay. Boy is big worship. Right there that wasn't really cool. That's in the gym. That's now the thing is though that now that's that's going for you know five six rounds that's now but I'm talking about before thirty seconds the first time I ever did it. I could. What? You can't Sciatica added everything came all. The made me quit boxing although pain started coming back. So when you started training again, did you start doing it slowly after that extremely slowly and then I thought it dabbled in alternative stuff like what kind of stuff? Private therapy type shirt cry OH. Stem cell research and there. And some other interesting stuff that I don't know and this just beautiful stuff stuff. hyper-baric Chamberlain. Everything all. Everything that help you recover. It's really interesting. Well. I. Saw you. When you walked in today, I was like God damn. You look good. You look good dude like your muscles look good. You look like you're vascular, you look fit and I. And I'm starting to feel fit. That's what interests them so I know what they do. So I think I'm in shaping. Then thing you know you thank you in shape and then you start having like Ralphie stone punches me it's like a fighting I can't back when I got a boy and then to go by any I'm not in shape I meant in the bag fix around doing three or five around six jumping real and then I do to somebody is a whole different. Peration who've. How, how much time has gone since you I started exercising like when did when did it start? So here we are with August twenty third or something like that. Twenty second way what when did when did it start? Had, to start. Something April April. So want something in the middle of the lockdown. Yeah. So you just just started just training, and now here you are five months later, four months later. How how far away do you think you are to being in like fighting shape? Oh, five and one time by. November twenty eighth. Yeah. That's when you'd be ready exactly now why did you guys decide to move? You were supposed to be in September I was. Off Viewing. Situation. That the proper timing for more people, for audiences. That nature it's exciting. Often because. It would be me and everyone else. That's involved Eros anyone. Innovation that we. Start off the Lennon's only league, and that's going to be really breathtaking especially starting off with me and Roy Yeah and I'm looking forward to that have athlete from every gender it's. Array of everybody who was who believed that someone they're all going to come back in all fields and this is something that. Eros intervention created together and I. Think this is going to be pretty awesome. So legends only league would be like all sports baseball avenue. Yet think. And create like we did with Billie Jean King. They had somebody say one of Serena somebody play. McEnroe, in that kind of stuff right exhibitions and stuff like that somebody like Men Award COMPLA- one on one with whoever I in. Managed. Mental Wars. Meta world peace. No it's a amazing idea. But particularly for you like seeing, you hit the bag again and seeing you hit the pads and get excited about it is very, very interesting to me because I knew that you had that thing in your head where you did want to ignite your ego and then you had this quote that the Gods of war reignited your ego. Read that I got so excited. Well after excuse us. Really, great excuse that I can use. But it's. It was a great quote. Made me excited and when I'm when I'm seeing you training. I mean you know some people that? Everybody has opinions when something like this happens when a man is fifty, three, now fifty, four, fifty, four, and decide to fight again. Fit as you look like, why not? Why not why not you can do whatever you want why can't if can go bungee jumping and ride a ball listen Impossible is nothing to somebody that tried everything that the ones that was impossible if happen. Yeah, it certainly well listen in two thousand and twenty with all the ways of recovering all the things we know tation create impossible. Well, it's different. Now limitations are different now. So. When you that video when you were ripping the pads and working out with off L. Cordeiro how many? How long into that was that? Like how how quickly did you get your speed back? Was it right right away. The first day that was your first day I charter said the first day. Wow and after that day I was in the bed become good. The guys to do the fucking chef electrocute me. To say I couldn't walk I was crying to my wife and like wow. I don't know why after that. She said this is over, I'm not going to do it but. Dead Ego stuff. Hey, come on plead. Did it does it do you feel like you felt in the old days like when I mean in terms of your mind like the enthusiasm about this? And do the. sometimes I feel I say this Bush, I can't be feeling this good. You know and then And I'm I don't know I think I really. Am I'm feeling good I. thought this bag another bag of bigger bag two, hundred, pound nothing. This bag wouldn't be moving I'm hitting KINDA decently. You know you look good does look. This is not like I've seen guys come back and you see them working on it looks sad and it doesn't look what's exciting about you coming back is how good you look training Why not in the? Book being a real fighter. This is what you know. You See. So many people in the gym matter of fact, I've bought people in gymnast kicked ask every day but then know what's different. When you get him in the ring and Y- light on them and people eating popcorn and drinking beer and they freak out. So the pressure fire. Your Mike Tyson exact. You understand that? I. Know If anybody knows how to deal with that pressure to absolutely but. If good. But if you don't have the doubt, I have a lot of trouble right? You have to have doubt right you have to have a little bit of that now. Is it? This is a this new phase of your life where all the sudden reignited and you want to compete again, this is to be fun. It is fun. Yeah it is fun I do say fun but it's still That Stuff. That, but it's still like you said is fun but it seems so exciting. To, watch you train and get ready to me and Mike Fuck Yeah like what what do you want man to do when you want them to do just sit around do nothing just wait go for walks do whatever the fuck you want, and if you could still do this what you're doing it why not? Hey I don't understand it either but. On the thighs wanted to do it and. I'm feel like I was born to do this stuff. We certainly were at one point in time of your life, but you had moved onto a different chapter of your life. You'd completely stopped doing that you were doing ties ranch thing smoke and a lot of weed you stop smoking totally much. Yeah. Pretty much stopped going to stop. Wow. Wow, that's that's a big change but. Like this is all about change you know you listen you can continue being a comedian if you're not sharpening your. Psychic even when you Practicing Your Comedian Act you know you have to continue the practice the more you practice it. If you practices every four year, you'd be better if you only practice it for a month the more you do it the better you become do you feel like that now in this comeback that like you're only sort of scratching your potential because like you're just getting back into shape again a year from now you'll be in better shape and you'll be more conditioned to do what you WANNA do like you're you're willing yeah. Yeah you're in this. Rebuilding stage. Now. Ethic Fighting Yeah. When you go to a? Doctor, people have this alternative stuff and you see the Development Ucla healing process come on time. Why did the thrive happening to? Why Ninety but why like me? WHO JUST GOT OFF JERSEY? Yes. gave up his life and don't care about nothing hit. This is happening to him. You know since I married my wife, all this good stuff started happening and what is this stuff well about? Whatever it's all about it's good. I'm. Taking the money. Yeah that's what I said. I said take my money I WANNA watch it. We'll see you and it's not about money. The money's being chabany in fact. And it's just about doing something good in that from that perspective that could be ice Mike feeling like I'm doing something good for my more than myself. That's a beautiful part of it. Yeah. Today is going to charity, but it's also an exciting matchup and I'm watching Roy workout to in Roy looks fantastic. Always look fantastic he was Pound. The Way He. Really Looks He's Roy Jones Junior I mean that's one of the things that makes us fight. So exciting is that you know Roy is like yourself one of the all time greats and still looks physically fantastically see moving around and hitting the pads. Speed looks great. You can't with anybody that look for do that right? Well, he always had such an unusual style. You know with very few jabs who through left hooks instead of jobs. Roy always had one of the strangest styles and all the box. It was Jane with very effective super effective. Yeah. Just incredibly hard to prepare for to try to find someone who do that very no. One can emulate him in the gym. Now when you decided on a fight in decided upon, what were the were there other I heard that someone had offered you shannon the Cannon Briggs bareknuckle boxing. Tyson. Tyson fury. With fat type and ferry and quite of a guy but fern things that happened and it didn't happen and then I'm. Holyfield it with Shannon, mother guys from Emma May and then. He turned out to be the right guy gets we did a survey. Very pumped up the winter certainly giant. yeah. Holyfield would be a great one to. Just having a guy like that. That has that big name that is also an all time great and also wants to do it too and to get the public excited I may have a perfect fight to get the public. So do you think that once you fight Roy that that'll be it or do you think this is just going to be the beginning of this new chapter in your life I believe this is just going to be the beginning whatever happened happened. This is pretty interesting being here talking to you and knowing that The extended wave and the people are going to hear this stuff it pretty interesting because this is now this is true. It's really going to know long in my head and I'm stroking it is real like, wow. Yeah. Wow I. Can't wait man I want to be there I want to see it. Hey. Down the street here I'll come back. Down for the the Dignity Center that's where it's going to be. Yeah. Yeah, and is it going to be an audience? It can't be audience. Yeah. Right. Believe on the believe only Allah. What what, what am I say entourage, right? Yeah Family Fight Group and this is GonNa be eight rounds I believe. So yeah. So how how did you arrive on eight rounds? Hey Listen? Beat the hell out of me I. Wanted to help the people at like fuck around roundabout now I'm getting in condition and we're GonNa do this stuff. Eight rounds gives you enough time to work gives people enough time getting excited about it when when you think about an eight round fight. Do you seem you see yourself moving into ten rounds and twelve rounds in the future and how we don't know what the future holds, but we looking forward to having fun and doing it for. A purpose reason because people were talking about you literally fighting for the title again Hey, I'm not interested in interesting in fame for the title of giving. Okay okay. So just doing this for good. So exciting for you, but also generates a lot of positive -actly Yeah I love that and. Soul cleaning for some reason, because you giving away to charity that you're doing something good doing for myself, I, hear this. For me no more right that makes sense in do it. Yeah that makes sense. So it's both things. So you to excite yourself yourself but the good is all going to next won't have in my mind on getting paid someone never have that in my mind again. Yeah I know. I'm getting something for what I'm doing kind of yeah. Somebody said this kind of hilarious someone said Hey I heard that they're just a mess around and that they're not going to go for the knockout I go. Do you know who the fuck you're talking about? Are you talking about Mike Tyson and Roy Jones junior do you really believe that the two of the all time greats once they start throwing hands that it won't get crazy well of course, it is both who we are and we're going to show. US Skills Nobody's going look stupid and it's going to be interesting I. Think Yeah. Do you have any other people in mind like do you have a game plan in mind like after Roy or you just thinking only about Roy right now at this moment only Roy but it's just some interesting people that we have the I'm going to announce later there was some talk of Roy way back in the day when Roy fought John Ruiz and won the heavyweight title Yeah. So what would what did you think about that fight back then I thought it was really interesting because I can use the money back then. So man we talk we wouldn't Texas and we went to Houston Houston went to Houston we talk then after we talked we went out until out but. It. Never, happen found what happened to me happen to me and it just didn't happen. That's one of those things right there's always all these potential fights that don't quite line up. Do you have other fights in head that were potential fights that didn't line up that you wish did? Now. Before the reasoning is happening now. I'm excited about this fight I'm excited. stylistically to because I always, I always liked that fight stylistically I was so interesting you know because you're just this unstoppable force and Roy was so fast and so slick I if I'm prepared to do a lot of running and chasing. Yeah. I was very difficult to get and condition for. This. Little Guy Marie. So how many days a week training every day every day you have the Sunday's off day and what? What is a typical day for my Tyson right now. Today start. Soon, as it's daylight around five thirty out to the four mile run. Comeback. What am I doing when I come back? I'm back I'm in the shower. From the shower. I go downstairs let the bird fly birds come back in. May. Do Some I. Haven't machine. We can do the twist athletes. And I'll do that probably two hundred times on both sides. And is. Grabbed, by you know may have. I mean me I I may have some. Eggs. Instead and that he Nagla you were a Vegan for a while how long we begin for a couple of years for a couple years in five years when did it stop when you stop doing that? Not Too long ago. So did you start because of the training or did you stop before that? This stop reading because of the training and it was because what I wanted my body to look like and distinct that I wanted to death. So you start eating meat red meat. Not only. Elkin by thin. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Wild stuff you elkins I want to give you some. Really. Busy. Yeah. Do. I'll give you some elk right there. That will be so often. Have three commercial freezers in the back in love that I love. When I look at look at food like I used to look at it I look at before what it's for yeah. Even when it's four to take care of the body, exactly. Well, that's the best I. I realized that you know things that are good for people like the Kale vegetables and all this stuff the blueberry, and then for me, it's really poisonous is not Good from my blood type in my health conditions and all that stuff. Kale. All CAL chill make. Kill Kill Kill me. We're no actually that really. For me kill his toxic to my blood and everything. So when you were a Vegan eating man nothing. Then, my wife called me the memorable vegans. Decommissioned what you're doing might. Just being miserable now I think it comes down to When and. It's interesting because I've done it. When cut I I would sometimes just overdo it sometime like sometimes I go for religious fast for thirty eight I might overdo it somehow might not eat for the whole day that is for the daytime right then I might for a couple of days it's ninety period. Don't you think that but that's just your championship mentality, right? Like you always pushing yourself even when it comes to something like fasting a huge push. To do with suffering itself. Yeah. I don't know what that came my feelings on the Bahamas along I thought from what in this person that that person? Okay. This person do what I did right? Right. Right I. Remember you saying that to about training that you would get up in the morning and train because you wanted an edge, you wanted to know that you were training while they were asleep. Yeah I remember thinking that back when I was doing martial arts I remember reading that might WanNa do that to a copy a lot of she you. Have the have in in even if it's not soon. So you have to have in that's where delusion come them because delusion is only delusional when you don't accomplish the goal of making a delusion, the reality, right? That's the Lewis Right you just enforcing your mindset Oh yeah. To allow delusions to be the reality of your excitement. Now when you're doing this and you're getting up in the morning and running does this like do you feel like you felt in the old days? Do not mean physically I mean the mind like preparing for war again do this does this like reignite those old dots the way you were when you were the champ, the way you were when you're on your way to the title like this is a, this is a whole new way of life now with really interesting. That sometimes. Not, sometimes I struggle with the fact that why the possibly at can really hurt somebody like you don't WanNa hurt them. What do you mean? We struggle struggle with the possibility that you could hurt them. That is sometimes Thought Them Times Yeah. Like some fights like particular like tyrod bigs are someone that you had problems with someone that you you had animosity towards. So when you finally get your hands on them. Hey What does the main When fighting, get you wreck whether that me good question. You're getting excited year. So that that's going through your mind right now. Well, that's how I get when I was a kid and I sometimes I get the twinkle twinkle. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying like you reached a state as a human being as a champion as a ferocious fighter you reach a state of ability and of accomplishment very few humans will ever ever touch and feel. That's why I'm asking you you run and when you're hitting the bag when that heartbeat and again you know who you are your mic motherfucking Tyson. So when you do all this shit again, you're still Mike Tyson those thoughts have got to be burning side you again it's got to be pretty wild. Wild. But I believe is Is Rightfully. So to be that way and I know how to. Say I Matha. Bias on the deal with it I'll let overwhelming. No. Of, course not. But saying that gets you orgasmic. That's a strange thing to say, well, that's just what I want. I'm going to find out because you really bright. Serious no I know. I know you being serious but I mean no one will understand that other than you. Like that's these your your mindset like no one wanted. But I think that like all the things we were talking about before the way you drive yourself, will you push yourself the way you put yourself into that frame of mind? No one's GONNA. Understand that other than you. So no one's GonNa understand you get an erection from thinking about hurting someone. More than you will you don't have to be fair basis somewhere fear based. Maybe or maybe just. Maybe not fear based, but maybe embracing the fact that you're going to go into this with everything that you have the chaos of it all and. The ultimate goal is to hurt somebody. The ultimate goal is to be extremely successful. The way you can be extremely successful. The thing you do great is to crush people so to. Have that encompass everything? The only thing I don't act I. Love. Ice from for help for that, you don't ask them for help for finally because you think you. Know I don't think I. You should ask I. Don't want to be involved kind of mindset and. So. I you know people do they go to stone is don't because it's just. I don't like the way I think. When God to be? Involved with the way I think at that time. Well, this is what's so interesting to me about you fighting again because of the conversation that we had the last time, you'll hear that you didn't want to reignite your ego clear. Your Egos blazing right now I mean you're ready to go. I'm an attic formatting and I'm on a narcotic rain the camera on me. Yeah. The big narcotic and maybe. That has something to do with as well. I like to think is in the control till the night of the event. Doubt Yeah the night of the event. So it's the the addiction will get purged with with the performance. Yeah that's why I'm. Doing if you don't mind me into for thick and. The book that talks to you where they audio book and it was called. The gene key. Okay. This book and the book with explaining about why that we are who yarn perspective that most of the people like you and myself and people people in general who is not at that level even anyone that have occurred creative mind if victimized to the Persian. In the reason is because when that created when that moment whatever it is. That caused creativity is not. FIT The. Proper information that is successful and that is fifth accepted and whatever spaeth a brain and the mind that it wants to be accepted as not accepted it crumbles. that makes sense. But I feel like with someone like you the highs that you reach in competing the highs you reach fighting are so high that it's probably very difficult to it's probably very difficult just exist. Outside of that and I know you love pot for that reason because it calms you down Melody Out and you absolutely it made me like myself Do you understand? You asked me like my phone. It gives you forgiveness yourself I agree with that thought about that. I never wanted to be forgiven because that's really powerful stuff. Yeah except forgiveness. Forgive yourself yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to forgiving people. Sometimes it's harder to forgive yourself. Yes, and marijuana makes you feel like it makes me. compassionate makes me more friendly makes me WANNA. Hug People can be more of a sense of community backley. Make me. are believed did something wrong to me con? Man It's like he didn't mean. I'M DRUNK WE'RE BLOATED BRAD I. Got the, the fighting thing that that. Feed that that experience is it. It's a different experience and it's it's it's gotta be so hard for a world, championship fighter of your caliber to exist with like regular normal boring life. You know when you're training and you you're ramping yourself up for a big fight and then you have that big fight and you you know you knock out spinks in front of the whole world and. Walking around the ring and you're on the cover of every magazine that the highs of that the accomplishment, the training and the competing itself is the the experiences. So alien to most people that when you walk around with regular folks in regular life, it's got it's gotta be hard to exist. No, it's not it's just that. You have to know who you can be a third time to life. No one knows who they are because the you know who you were right now you'd be really limited. You know could life is about change you'll be told them five years from now you'd be a different person won't be this person tonight we're going to have to have. Developed some kind of emotional intelligence and learn the at time goes along. With ever going on his form with it and the change you change with it because it's very difficult when times change to change with the Times right and you have to be conscious of that and time is not the people around you. The time is the development and time you have left in planning that you have to develop who you are, how difficult is it to make that change though to become a different person other than a world championship fighter. When you decided to stop was a difficult time, make you that person time will at time we'll make that person what is time I don't know. But Times also made you that person again now though now now it's reunited now new time has come and now you're training again exactly. But I think this is done mostly for my health. For my mortality more than anything subconsciously I think that's what what the reason why I did it just to get healthy And this stuff goes on. The dock and say, Hey, you know you should do this and you should try and stem cell Mike never tries. But this is what really got me interested and this stuff I thought I viewed which I like to do well on my podcast if you license to do is you contact won't. Oh. Yeah for sure who? Had Opportunity the. Talk the KID shamrock. Okay and so he came in and I looked at what he looked. Incredible. What are you doing? Why are you look like that? How their happened and they said, it was Colombian. When give me I'm going tomorrow May. I have some people nearby that happened to be introduced to own On top really set that bio accelerator place Columbia is that what it is I I didn't go there. We're Henry Pseudo went I have no idea who went out I do. Columbia and I met some other people who yes. On top of the on their game with this anti eight and all this stuff, I would just turn into stuff also and so People in Libya amazing stuff. So you're able to now train all these days a week you have like how many months in now you you you're solid since April. And you attribute that mostly to all these different alternative methods of. Of gentleman that we call his name is Brad Rowe we mechanic the electricity, then he any worse do. Current, fourth than that low electro muscular stimulates. Totally different within that family, but it's just totally superior than that. That is so antiquated compared to this stuff you know. So. You were talking about your ability to you run in the morning, and now what's the afternoons like? What are you doing afternoons on? That's what I'm training. One o'clock I'm GonNa Jim, I'm doing the training. To thirty, I'm probably talking on the phone and. Deal. Making arrangements probably the do other show. COMMERCIAL SOME AD. Says Asha been this stuff and how did you get hooked up with hot fail Cordeiro because for folks who don't know he's legendary trainer in May he's from shoebox in Brazil. He was one of the top guys back when shoebox was the number one make camp in Brazil were Anderson Silva Vanderlei Silva later but this is how this happened. The two of US met Hey you know I liked intimate you. Hit the mid somebody. Thank you got the my rather get. Ready to go to Freddie's Jim. Pretty, Roach yeah, and then Monthly, they had. Wealthy Al and I let me check it out and it was just perfect. Is In near you does he live near here's something he lives in the Guna I'm in Newport. Was Another Laguna close enough? Yeah. That's that's real close. So he's there believe in Yeah. He's a great trainer. We just came from Vegas we Just hanging out, you know had to go someplace and he's just Cool? Cool. Before I met him before the. Pandemic but that's why I mean we came in we were and vague if we met I, guess it UFC fights and then I met him over here and I was hit the method then that's how. We. Got Back Together. He's a great man like a good person. The reason why? Say because he was awesome. The mets because he puts so much peace and love and stuff to. Family. Man Image. As awesome. Yeah. He's got great energy. He's being loved like in the world and all by all the people that he trains with everyone loves. You can't find a person say a bad word about the. Author and he's a very good trainer and he also was a guy like that style that Ha- that shoot box dial very aggressive and I was like, Oh, well, that actually makes sense him and. When we do drills, the drills were going on with no we hitting the mench is no us, hey, it pop-up Bouma moving back bone. Yeah Beating heart breathing we if working on it. Yeah I'm watching and I'm saying this it's interesting because he's doing he's doing a lot of like side aside angles. Eight Mack eight rounds bag I do four rounds a minute moving who Bag what was that bag? That without even really workout? Yeah. You know he's that really even work workout with what was that the warming up for this with that about you don't even know that existed after you four or five. So when you go from April when you first started doing it again to now, how much better do you feel? Less than that. that. was just a joke at the beginning right now really perking up. It feels like real train. Yeah. This is taking that deep. Do you feel like you could train as hard as you did back when you were in your prime. Well, listen you have a tape here. Don't you know we can look at is the film that someone? have a film of my tape of me hitting my prime and see me hitting the myth now about we do A. Somebody must have the myth in Ada limit the mid from last week and you tell me though listen I'll tell you look fucking fantastic. That's. Why let me if you look at it? Is, just ahead more endurance back in that but now I'm catching up. Well, that's an interesting about it. It's not like washing old fighter has lost. It is just trying to compete. It's like watching an old fighter regain those old skills like you look great man that's crazy about it I mean it's going to work on this and work off in and keep working if he would've goes. It's exciting I love it. When I announced the Listen this is. Johnny Ryan Guy Works with us. Aeros and stuff when we're now the fights. He got we got in two point five, billion hits. I believe it, I believe it. This is going to be a huge fight I mean this fight is probably going to be one of the biggest fights of all time. It turns pay per view in terms of people, buying it, and watching it and turn into an intensive great video terms of helping people as well of Roy, and you training together is a compilation. Speed him on God. Speed that up but my wife they. I think they did not. The The Trish in. The the the. Electrical Muscular Stimulation Shit Yeah. No, it doesn't look like it's sped up. It looks like you still have the speed. That's what it looks like. That's what's so exciting about it with the king's MMA shirt on. Yeah. I. It's so exciting man it really is I I'm. I'm one hundred percent into this and I can't wait for the fight to go down and it's going to be November eighteenth now, right? As twenty twenty. Enough. TIME FOR FANS and everybody and Thanksgiving be home, and they'd be able to view it. The holidays and just be able to help more people the more people that view it. This is so exciting man are you doing weightlifting? Are you doing any swimming? What? I did with were shocked commercial only. and. A. Little Way to get a lot of wraps thing if So you have a strength and conditioning gas BRADFO. Okay. So he's doing Yeah Brad Rowe I've I heard that name before Weightlifting Jam Change Weightlifting Champs and all that stuff and. He's just awesome person than we kicking butt and how many days a week doing strength and conditioning along with your running. Trendy the Friday then we decided to. Go, Saturday wow. How does it feel to get back in shape again, man and to look great hey, feels awesome. But as listen, there's nothing either about. Getting in shape ease not easiest just it's continuous stuff is. Consistency there. They. Go Brad. So how the fuck did they talk you into getting in ocean with sharks? What was that all about listen? I don't know how they did this. The money was. Great. You know. We, shock world. Underpaid me. They had me out there. I was there and. It was really interesting. Really interesting you. Guys give me in here. Yeah. I was wondering the same thing. Dana thirty was. Found what might? Might do a couple of games DVR and I'm saying thanks then you really liked. Danner really liked me. I'm paying Dana really cared about me. He forget the fire wealthy my i WanNa see Mike Gopher with sharks. Yeah I would I would say findings probably safer. While you defy. were. Shocked. Why didn't they want you to fight? Did you talk? Though he never seen until he seen and watch me once he saw then he changed his mind. Yeah. Once I think once someone sees the dedication that you have the that you're actually fit in the you're actually moving fast and you actually can compete at a very high level I used to have to realize down. I'm not gonNA rush into the more. I gotta move around doing different way 'cause I tried to go in the first time for. Disaster. So I there thinking you in my head moving and things went the way I wanted how long and training was the first time he's sparred. For Fifteen years. First Time he's part in fifteen years and how many months into training was that from from you start in April. So like when did you start boxing? Boxing is when I did that stuff with. The blinds stuff. For Time right but but I mean first sparring first barn rounds. Yeah. It was really weird and stuff but I realized when I was getting hit boom boom you're hit a couple of times I'd ain't going what the fuck do either way I belong here. It brought it back. Yes. Abalon. Poem Boom I got rocking hurt the ring and warm I didn't panic. I belong here. Belong here. So moving and start talking about. Belong here. Now I, never thought the fucking my doing this. It's never happened never happened that I was expecting that you're expecting the. This she. Sang But? That's what I expected. World Beaumont. Bom Bom. Along the felt it and you re. The first thing I said I said well, I belong here. Nice. How long did it take before you start feeling comfortable spar and? The next time must body hilly. Yeah. So the next time he's part again, you just can't get back into the mindset of what it's like to be competing and moving with another person. And you can go for the kill you not your body's not moving for the kill. Now you gotTa have you have to develop the relationship. This is GonNa be interesting when you hear this. And the fight it probably doesn't understand that will ever gets old you have to develop we queen a relationship with your mind and your body. Lakes go here before your body's ready to go with right. TO SYNC UP. Yeah. At this thing now you have to talk hey, before we we before they stood being being being malicious move here move here. You lose the tenth of a second when you talk to yourself right doing instantly. So do you think eventually you'll get back to automatic? We're GONNA see. Like that yeah. Yeah. I'd like that too. It's exciting. No Man. It's very exciting to see sparring again to see all that. Bahrein are you a sparring technically or you sparring hard like? I went back. And I was disastrous. Body with it wasn't listening right and so I, you said to develop that relationship. And the second time I thought that was someone spanning here. Now I, WanNa rush in and try to hurt nobody kill by trying to get where all done. Yeah. Just get working and how often sparring a week. When I go like the spine lakes point every day. Really every day. The more you do it. The better it is the more you're timing is feel what are your thoughts on like some people think that you could spar too much needed leave too much in the gym. 'cause you get hit too much in camp. Well, that's the whole thing you learn in camp not to get hit That's the art of boxing learning not to get hit in the fan you have to do that but trying to get in the gym. Seriously and avoiding that, and then it turned on the fight. So you shouldn't be in the gym thing I've been hit too much because you shouldn't hit. That should be the objective of finding that to give it as much as you believe you are what do you say to a fighter that sees themselves getting hit too much though in sparring, do you tell them to take some time off or did you say you know what? I say I, try to teach him how not to to avoid those punches. And if he doesn't. Really have much to do with them. I don't want to be involved with somebody getting hit in the. Roughly, that well I know you were doing a lot of a coaching of just even little small sessions with different fighters. There's a bunch of stuff on the Internet. Did you think about doing that like in the future like know Agnes move it just takes a really special pushing. It takes a special person to do you got mother father psychiatrist a Dietitian it's just so many hats you have the wear being a trainer. Good train chain the to yourself and your find. This is just a lot of has. Really overwhelming for me and my personality I totally can understand that. But I would also imagine that in your mind there's some knowledge that I would love to see passed onto other fighters in a in a way like a trainer only a trainer can do yeah. I'm going to kind of guy you WanNa know for me Olympic moved me talk to you or something. Like of course, we'll. Never get. Tired answering questions. Thank me the why absolutely because I the way I was a cuff, right? You know. CUSS, never get. He would love to anthro all my question because cuss wanted the perception that he knew everything you should listen to him and take his advice because he knew everything. Yeah. You know that's what it is like. If you front, you always came to him for life he always wanted to invite one to give advice and let you know that he was a superior thinking. You should come to him and his fellow your problems. That's just what he was. You know do you ever think back on your life like your life with costs and the story? The origin story is almost like a movie. It's almost no. No Let. Let me tell you what happened. Man I Miss Bob. Attention for boys. Em. I'm Ali they showed the movie. Great. It's like seventy, seventy, seventy, six from eleven. They played Ali and then I walked thinned and talk to the kid and I saw him. I. Say going I WANNA be like him and from there I go upstate New York the the guy that used to be a professional boxer named Bobby. Still Mrs Stewart taught me how to box and eventually I wanNA dishes he took me Stan MacArthur motto. This is all a couple of months I've seen female Lee. And I'm training to be a boxer crazy. It's and you were thirteen right now I would think I was thirteen. Yeah, look. A movie if no, I knew I was going to be thankful. And knew everything will go right as annuity within my blood. Only kid I WANNA be like that guy and they just started working. In it says listen now listen that even. Even three or four months after holly. Bombo met him. I'm in one place ahead fight. Trying to stab guy did with a pencil or something and go from near and I go over to this bad place called Elmwood this card is that's where bar we still because he the fight in the end take care of the all staff their big stroman. 'cause they have to take care of these. Very, interesting kids you know like. Homicide, who kid these are kids. Wild Wow. And so. That's the win win the bag college to Lockup College elmwood, and so we have the bathroom and that's the crazy kid college go the lockdown. No one can call like we they got to be handcuffed when they leave the cottage and stuff, and so that's where I've I've I've gotten my tutelage To go to school. That's why I've learnt everything in this bad boy play there's places all the bad kid that and. Since they have extreme kind of God's dear security Mr with a professional boxer and he's with teach the kids how to. Behave themselves certain level and which you can go back box and guys coming back to the dome that was locked within the level to go to because I just got there. So he put me back knock you up to. Them. They've kind of person you also, they'll put you in the group and I see these guys coming back with is birthday teeth knocked out the rib so but they were happy to laugh about it but you. Got Him. After what's going on? Fame Assistance Boxing Mr Stewart and they're happy with him bleeding to doctor but they were happy with enthusiasm I wanted to do that too. I wanted to be toughened. So Mrs, Stewart to me, they wanNA teach me I started cleaning being real nice kit everybody come to learn how all the kids are happy and he started teaching me how to Bach. It's crazy that you met cuss too because of all the people that you can meet no one was better at the psychological. Oh, I would never been the champ if I were the from. Them he stuff in my thought thinking about myself being these people visualize myself being I'm great. If somebody I've never done that in my life. I've never heard not even together say this. Like that's why he's great life I'm talking about like home. That's why he's incredible to why the incredible. Credible. Why shouldn't you have that? Why should he have not? You have never heard my to me. because. was a master at the psychological off master like you. Just you'd hear him talk about things just reading the things that he's written about about the psychology of fighting. He was the perfect guy few was almost like stars aligned talking about. Yeah. It's really is like a movie really is all lined up and plus physically you were so unusual he was unusual. So gifted I mean even when I told him that he can't be too small. No, the world can be too short. Cathedral, small gathered to twenty five to thirty. Well. Obviously. They were wrong. Big Tank but it was also. You, you might have been short but you you had the best style and cuss develop that with you the best style the deal with the fact that you are shorter the bombing in the we've constant pressure exactly but I believe. Style is. Relevant I believe if the. The morale behind the style. I think the death in fighting in life about Zaire and the will yeah, how bad do you want it worth dying for? True Greatness, the willingness to die. So this thing were great myth. The mindset that he instilled in you and the way he gave the tools in order to think about things in a way that that that fueled that mindset. Yeah. But that doesn't do good in the real world though. It really is really disaster is. Right right now yeah that's true too. Yeah. Isn't that crazy it's the very thing that made you special. Could Fuck you in the real world. The real world guys like that go to president exist in a real world take a model there. It's crazy not to have to. We have to remove them from the real world of people like myself isn't that was crazy like that's where the crazy adjustment has to come in where you have to learn how to be, and that's where cannabis helped you a lot like oh man forget. Okay. But now you're not smoking any we. Do you miss it. Well. I understand the discipline of the stuff what I don't like about it is. That without cannabis I, it doesn't matter. Be I use kid me yeah I don't like the mean Steph I don't like I may snap at my wife my kids. That's what I don't like right what right? Right well I see the sparkling your high again. So different right now last time I. was talking to you there's a little more intensity going on, but it's also your ramping up. Yeah you thought wave them. And Thumb. I get a five advocate After his To be grateful. Yeah. Why would God didn't general and Sometimes. I get caught up into my ego right? So it's just a struggle but I'm working on it. I never worked on it before we start. Could consider we're a that is the thing like what gets you to be a championship level fighter can really fuck you off. I can't believe I'm happy my wife is still with me. I'm very grateful because I miss useless and stuff and I have to learn. To. Live Life Yeah Life. I'm the fastest limit life. Joe. Would never believe. Nice words an I'm conducting myself. You come to my knife how and you say this guy is the uncouth neanderthal. I I listened to my wife Vegas. This so she told me become before I came in behind and be nice to be kind and Nice 'cause I don't eat most of the time only eat after I don't eat enough she says she's GonNa get angry plea the she's four me to eat this stuff. Friday. Okay leaper them she's right because of time we've been married eleven years. You got a good one. Then man you got someone bounces you out living understands you yeah. Talking half sometimes. From time think about where together and this is going to be over thunder we'RE GONNA die. GonNa die before the other one I wouldn't I know what to do if you died I Had to take it, kids could hold life as me and all my kids right her life is me and only a kid to that we have. But her life is me and all my kids, right? and. I love her marry her jet for that alone No put. Passionate sex that alone. Yeah. Yeah that's beautiful. Man to find someone bounces you out like that. Absolutely, but that we're talking about. Where the very fire that gets you to be Mike Tyson. It turns you into this destroyer inside the ring will if you don't learn how control a little fun. No other aspects. For instance. After my one round fights. Some of them calls me loss because right after that. You think I'm calm down think after thirty seconds the forty five decade he's cool after one I everything's cool. He'd happy over it's still wringing. Yeah. Revving up is still web does not finish is not dead he's not dead not the energy that suggests get the energy of hurting somebody continuing to hit the money's wrapped up right and so the first thing you hit and the case altercation, it's not hey what bullets it's off. You have no control over it right and there's almost like you're insane they why can I stop this? This happened to me why am I in jail right now? And your Mike Tyson was anybody can tell you not to do it. To shut up or calmed down and you're not gonNA listen anybody you the fucking King of the world. But he gets created with the people in jail imprisonment. No you real well. Familiar with doing when they're not excited. Get, really familiar with you. Jamie. Foxx GonNa play you in a movie that's going to be interesting. That's going to be interesting. Wowed. Jamie. Fox. Can do it. That's a talented man. He's really good. He's He can do anything. He's one of those. Do you listen to him saying you hear him play music you see him do up comedy then you see him act like this fucking guy can do anything. He says one of those dudes that can just lock in on something and it can do anything. On them. When the when the universe put the light on you, there's nothing stronger than a person whose time has come. Yeah. All about the light man, all all of us get it, you may not think the homeless man in the corner. The blind in parallel paralyzed guide is begging with a cup. We all get them moment of shine. We all get it. Feelings perform whatever it is your cat it. No one Jamie is playing you what does that way I know Michael Jordan played you want. Did you talk to him about know how many thousands jail when this go? Do you know Michael John I met him a few greg. He appears to be very, Very Nice Guy I've known him for a long time and very respectful to, but was it weird watching some play you? No No, no. No. Just. Ego schick since I'm watching it. And he and he has some good qualities that he did some really good stuff that thought. but the stuff that he did then I'm representing me I don't think people even picked up on it. Like what kind of stuff is the way moved hair Yeah People Crack Manetti You're also now Noah had happened when I have fought. Bone 'cause Smith hit me in the. Creek. When neck with messed up so I had to go in. The chiropractor on the what the heck was wrong with it. From. The bunker she smith. Started doing it how anthem knows and note the I have. I. Did. You ever have problems like you need surgery after. The Y. You. Memorize. Rolling my hat. Yes. Football Audit. Destroy your neck would do this would doing for three minutes and stop a minute don't for three minutes I do for five, six, hundred, eight mounds and found went on to beat me up that gave you a crazy fucking neck though. On twitter into. Just start temples and just go straight down. We need for fighting. You need a win. Are you doing anything to strengthen your? The. do you ever use the iron neck? No it's a Halo I'll give you have one in back. He's a Halo, you put it on your pump it up it fits around your head, and then it's got a Bungee cord on it. So you back up like this the bungee cords, fifty pounds, and then you do these. And because it doesn't do this with your neck, it doesn't put pressure on the discs. So it doesn't move the disks in an unnatural way with. Yeah because you can do all these different exercises on it, but it doesn't ever bend your disc. So it strengthens the neck without doing damage to your disks it's attempted. I would love that. Yeah. Thank you really have. Within, have a a treadmill You the put on some shorts first. And then you zip like, oh, the water know. Put some shorts. Zip the shirt with plastic that covers the machine and he started running, and then you can run a fast became won't feel anything. But it's not water inside home run on a treadmill. It's under plastic in zipped up around this thing right here. Zero gravity treadmills. That's what it is. Yeah. How's that working? Pretty. Awesome. You don't feel anything you take the pants off you feel it affects the pulling my fourth of the flu really. Yeah. Really. Cool. So this way it doesn't pay joints. Yeah but listen this is what people don't understand. Yeah. You haven't machine that'll be a bill you running outside. The high run outside was worth new joins. The end with the how you give them running outside what's the difference between the from the? Outside but like what are you feel? Man. I can't even articulate. Between, being outside running. It's like night and day. So that house on the treadmill and being outside running is like night and day you can't even compare to is it because you're you're moving you're traveling distance is it because you're breathing in the fresh air at the spiritual different Just, a spirit to run here in the birth in the whatever it is adams run into breaking the sticks in the weeds, his context everything. Right, it's real run as opposed to exercise on a machine. Exactly. The headphone on you still conscious of everything out there. Now. Have you talked to Jamie Fox Yeah well, he's getting ready to do this. I thought the Jamie is periodically. What the Phil Really. Talk about it now he's getting bulked up to getting jacked. He looks huge. You've way to the finish when is it supposed to take place and whenever he's ready I? Wound that's wild. So when when he gets ready to do it, is he going to hang out with you and try to take on your mannerisms or we've known for quite a long time? He knows my Manaf he's not GonNa. If I if I died, he can do me right right. Pretty much. You know he have to be around me. Do you want to help him. You want to give them any pointers. Whatever help and what areas in what the reckoning me to help them. Yeah, that's how it's great capable of doing that. Yeah. If you're gonNA have someone play you I. Think he's the perfect person. He's just goodness other guys too but he's youth. He has no three of been near. You know it's hard to get a guy he's just. Twenty years old, and then we're going to have portrayed of the twenty five and he is navigated. Right somebody understands the environment that they lived in at that particular time and they create that environment again in their mind once they. Under the influence of that person personnel portraying James GonNa. Yes I'm knocking out the PUCK. Now you'll knock out the park for Zhou he and the stand that environment and that chemistry he's GonNa Rian we re being reconnect now are you going to be a consultant on this move or anything to make sure that it's all legit Jamie around me? It discuss it with me I'm sure we have that taken care of as well but we it's going to work this out the best way possible for both worth I believe. Now. When is it supposed to follow you when you're young man or is it supposed to be you as a champion? Good to talk about that right now. To staff really dig it. Tone. Some really interesting stuff. So, you're saying that the run outside it's worth it just for the spiritual difference it's worth the beating up on the joints does it does it fuck your joints you have like knee problems or ankle problems these days. Had Do. But the guy that work with they take care of that right away you know almost like. Like. No. It's like I WANNA say he'll I'm eighteen, but it's almost like an superglue on your joints. superglue only gets talking finger off. Time. Talking to you can't get off. It is interesting what they can do today you heal and recover way better than you ever could before there was no fifty four year old man that looked like when we were kids no no. Jack Lang Tony One yeah and even Jacqueline I mean he was Kinda fit but he was just fit because he was disciplined because he continued to exercise his mind about yeah. Okay. How good you on anything you don't have discontinuing nobody, right? Nothing of discipline. 'cause you give up in the slightest struggle without discipline? And that has to be something that you also learned from customers. Had No and I duNno different. He told me discipline and do what you hate to do but do you love it Doing what you hate to do but do it like you love it. That's that is a great quote and if you can do that, you could be successful in anything normally are. Best and the history Janet is. Yeah and I do that for perspective on the putting the janitors down. Yeah. In the best of it I know what you're saying. when when you're when when all is said and done, I would love it. If someone sat down with you in made maybe a book of all the things that cost taught you. Now know those things that cost to a meal and nowadays would not be cool. I don't know cousins born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, and nineteen eight. They had a different opinion of people having opinions like women and stuff that and cuss. CUFF BELIEVING That he killed for the downtrodden people in this and then for the blacks and Latinos and Irish people who are being. Abused by the Irish people at that time, which is crazy he really. He really would that guy he was the guy for the people that? That didn't have. Anyone to fight for them. He was just I wanted to be that person he wanted to be a person that people looked up to and the boss and stuff he was years wanted to be in my book and I, found founded about him he was successful his whole life. He was always guided neighbor that people came through the settle beefs and talk thing. When the lone people stuff and help people out and he liked being in that position of being able to teach people something that he believed with teaching them something. But he knew so much about the human mind way when he died, this is very interesting. We I and then. was. That lived with him and Camille and Clean the room when I thought his room, I all books by Heidari in the mind and everything and mystic stuff and all that stuff and I said, this is he was really about the yeah he is like he believes mythic believe was well. Then, art of. Archery and all those booking maybe just a believer and more than what we saw. Yeah. He knows more than what we could physical. Alea articulate going on with a theme and beings a what we called. When you sit back and you think about your career and how fortunate you were to run into that guy I mean, how? How much did that play a part in your mind like when you knocked out, Trevor Berbick became the youngest ever heavyweight champion. When you think about that, we did you ever stop and think like man. How lucky my that I ran into that man? No, he summons me he summoned you. Make. Sense. I mean you think about a man whose life work involved psychiatry involved the mind boxing hypnosis training all these boxers. Floyd Patterson had all these great fighters. And then he wants one great one before it's over. He wants an animal. He summoned you. Wouldn't feel like for you. Does it make sense nobody don't. Yeah. It it. I mean, I don't know if I believe you could someone someone. But goddamn that seems like it's real. Yeah. That seems like it's Real I. Don't think you do whatever you believe you can. If you really believe it. Yeah. Well that. That was what I got out of all the things that I read about you and him together and being able to talk to you about you and him that he he gave you these tools to understand the way your mind works and you ran with them. I'm going to extreme kind of person. I get carried away. If your confidence in that EBB and. Delusional perspective you have to write. Confident. Yeah. You get so amped up Mike Im- even even sitting here talking to you about these things I could see it in you the you get amped up even just talking about achieving things talking about success talking about the mind you know I could see it inside you get very fired up about these things. Yeah. Have to be. Serious. Finding accomplish. Yeah, that intensity is, what made you special? I mean that that means you I can't people and what is the first time I had my wife and kid around me I'm normally this can't happen at be away from them. For Camp Yeah Yeah. No I can tell you different right now than the last time. I. Saw you. I could tell you ramping up for this fight is just what it is I don't. Images as who I am. Are you planning on doing this and then seeing whether or not? You're cool with it after it's over and then? Maybe going back to the way you or just want to do it. He just wanted to this. Do only think about that for now and then let all the chips fall where they may after it's over. It I just WanNa do I like doing own thing. You'll be disastrous not this going to be awesome I'M GONNA do it I'm so glad you're doing it man there's a Lotta people that had a negative opinions about it and I was like listen they know this is interesting. Okay. Thank about it. How will you know I'm fifty three I'm a year younger. Yeah. But listen the fact is like. When they said. They can't get people on the moon. Because they didn't want to believe it. Like me, they don't want to believe it but what they're gonNA say what happens I think there's a difference in today than there was in twenty years ago when you're dealing with fifty four year old person when when you talk about Recovery Sports Science, what they know about how to make the body work what they know about training and conditioning people are just different now but also have do you could be. So many steroid pill the whatever they got health growth and all that stuff. But listen you could be the best physical shipment right if you don't go out there would a good mentor perspective is going to turn out disastrous? Yeah. If you're not mentally prepare, he is going to be disastrous but that's the thing that I'm liking about talking to you. You seem very mentally prepared. You ramped up Mike Yeah I don't know if I am is just This is who I am. Not like fighting. Well, that's. That's why you were. So fucking great at it, and that's what's so exciting about this is that you're back into that mindset again. I guess. So yeah, I can tell you that I have two people at home. I. Have the level, my personality how for that's the problem the problem is. Turn. Once you turn the switch on just to keep you know normally when I'm in this mode, I only want a slave. A family member. Advocates. Have to be. From humanity perspective, you get in the conquerors mindset. It's that I think everything should go my way I'm going through this process. Yeah. In I think no should be a foreign language for the next two months for what I need to prepare for what I need to prepare for everything should go your way. If. My perspective for me. No. For me knowing me paying for what I need to prepare for. Yeah. That's an alien thought process for most people. They don't understand like TB Mike Tyson to be who you were when you were at the top you have to think like that I don't everyone they. You'd think. You think. That we need to fight I, think is the most extreme version of that though for you to prepare for the for your failure, we're going to say you had Joe Biden here for you to prepare for that. That's going to be very interesting. You're not gonNA come in and make you came from not too comfortable with you gotta look at it from a different perspective part in theaters. 'cause he's GonNa. Look at you just some small sports jock. Yarmuth the pry them come in from this direction. This is how we think the competitive. We all know think. What we are, we want them to. Have a little bit of figuring out process what we are if I had Joe. Biden. Here I think I really high before I talked to him I would be beautiful I think would be high to. High Guy he looks like either hi. He. Seems like he's on something. Yeah. I would. I would get really high before I talked to a dude like A. Real high. You feel you feel energy from people good or bad you feel. The Mushroom Guy Peg. A. When you went to mushrooms who they really are behind this green at my wife don't let us know much. Germs again. Damn shriram. EMT. Them Mother Chunga. Chunga Shoenberg death and no. No. For me at the how don't bring national home. That's funny. Man Yeah. We just even microdosing if you microdosing mushrooms around people you. especially, if someone's lying you. Especially the. There's something they're not if have the motions alone before I used like, Baghdad And then I have thought for like. Three months and Let me to do it. Told Them Bang. God. You'RE GONNA. You're here for my entertainment. The one. For school and found in low sounds good and then boom issue I know some dizzy train on it To like the train on mushrooms listen on identity the mushroom I did the bike for two hours but it was like. WHO's like I within his own? But breathing heavy. Huma breathe of it what. And bringing on a Die Holy, Shit Stop. Thinking I'm dead because that's the Mushin' to makes you believe he dead? Feeling the fucking like boom, it's just. Now. I'm living dead it feeling that your soul is separate from your physical body listen. Why can't they listen stop? No it's like you in this room, right I'm in this room. Says blew my mind I'm in the room and all of them it's like it could be like the whole whole woman. Thank. Cover them like Kinda like shaded and I'm just covered the whole energised me and everything in the whole world is outside of me. Yeah and it's like I'm gone everything is just my entertainment mentioned looking in. And no one sees me and it's just a man forget it. I got. Hey maybe maybe even been hiding this stuff from a baby babe took some not feeling good baby. Is is not doing good I'm. Feeling good. What does your wife say? He's a total. To. Learn things when I do too I learned others. Are doing yeah, and I said he made me do and. This is true at. The. Show gives me that made me but also. Once. I DO SHRIMP? I have to stop doing this show because I started doing too much and then I lose concept of time. I might have been. Say Me and my wife in the car we drop off the kid to. The class that she goes once every week we drop-off we come back to the house and I say. Hey with Milan. We just dropped off my and I. looked at. That time. Yeah. Yeah, it makes regular life seem like trivial. Things like. They don't doesn't mean anything anymore. Problem. Yeah. If you have to keep appointments on I'm. Not. GonNa. Go there, and if you your body to the shrimp say, Hey, you shouldn't really be here. This is not worth. Our time isn't that what we're? This isn't that what we're vibe in on to reach the higher level becomes disaster. Guy Becomes the enemy. Now he's stopping my enlighten me now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah shrooms. It's I. Think it should I think they should be clinics some of. The theban ten within the Tuba Sivan Suicide Phil. It's still a schedule one drug unfortunately in this country but I think there should be clinics were professionals isn't have you heard about? The White Cobra. White. Cobra. Yeah. Oh He's a great psychedelic. It's another Saigo liver tail, the the centipede. No. Question told the shore what else the jellyfish I believe with one and they have they have a quite a few animals that. Possess that psychedelic chemical yeah. Well we're being fucked in this country because they keep that shit from us and they make it illegal in. So many people have learned great things about themselves through mushrooms in through all kinds of different psychedelics especially microdosing, they learnt how to stop drinking together the rule. From drinking by taking shrooms and Stops people from smoking cigarettes. You think we abused them I. Think. Since the beginning of time with. US We. Abuse Them. Yeah but people abuse everything they abused cheeseburgers and alcohol. It does you should be able to take whatever you want a grown man and there's the the fact that this country keeps it from us and keeps illegal fucked up because it could benefit. So many people I think. Wanted to benefit the people who hiding from. One of the union benefit I think the people are hiding from US they're protected pharmaceutical company. Well, they found the who they are, but I know that somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of factors. There's a lot of factors, but for me personally and for a lot of people that I know did gained great benefits from psychedelics. They think about this world we live in when you think about how I make fifth how did what is the origin of it? Yeah. Yeah. The world is a strange place in stranger right now because of covid because everyone's lockdown society's kind of fucked up and I think we as human. Are who whatever we existed be we're fucking germs and where to call everything that happens to us like I always think that people let out the violence where we're viruses we're fungus. That's what we fungus we look at it from. A. Perspective of consciousness. What do we do? We get sick we get other people sick and we di-. Yeah. Have you ever heard terrance McKenna no turns McKenna's No. Tell me about parents chance. McKenna was a brilliant ethnobotanist. He was a guy that worked with plants and he was into psychedelics and he had a theory called the stoned ape theory and he believed that human beings became human beings because of psychedelics he thinks that we developed into human beings when lower hominids like ancient man was experimenting with Mushrooms and coming interesting. So I think well, let me think let me them and so Documentaries and documentary I it it appears to be the world was created off drugs. Someone's taking some drugs in the reaching that. That believed to be divine intervention from God and. This is how the world with discovered if you have. This. Research in the history of Drugs Yeah I've definitely done some research in the history of drug also. Understand well, drugs and human beings for sure it accelerates creativity, right? It gives people ideas but the idea behind suicide and is a bunch ideas. One of them is that it actually can make people think about things like language language could have come about from people making these connections from Selah CYB and it also makes people a little bit more creative makes people horny increases, visual Acuity Compassionate makes some compassionate would bond them in terms of community and also? Have Been Love important. As well, and if you think about it for long periods of time, if that became a part of the human diet. It would make sense that no. Diet is always been abused died is being abused. Now that's what we will be sure now, but and that's what happens with all these. Extreme drugs, attorney jobs we abused than we think. We'd be smoked hundred. Well. You know. We we smoked too many cigarettes do too much of everything. We do abuse shit. Yeah. Why do you think that is why do you think people do you think but don't you think that that same abused that same like that's also what makes people great things too because that same almost the same mindset that allow someone to abuse drugs or abuse gambling and become obsessed with pornography also is the same mindset if channel the right way that allow someone to become obsessed with boxing what can. Prevent them from doing the right thing from the wrong thing. The same feeling though of. Emotional intelligence. Yes. The majority world even for that the world the word is not even fifty years old right. So this is going to be a struggle for the next hundred years. That's GonNa until we get that that's. A. Main objective to develop that yeah to succeed as human beings. Yeah, that's no true words. Urban said, that's what it is. It's emotional intelligence listen. Fill the slave by motion motion than slave by feelings and sometimes we. Sort of placate those emotions by drowning food or booze or gambling, or sex or anything that can then we turn that And to memories. Yeah and then we become a slave to our memory and stops right we that's who we are and alcohol loudly. Of. The. Yes. We stop from coming just like. We learnt. A Yeah. So we can learn from that. So that's why Nethon now not hopeless anymore right. That's why it's so hard for people because they have a memory of all the things done. That's wrong and they do it all the time and that becomes who they think. They are to change in the pitcher right though about changing the channel and right. Channel Life that's what's so exciting about you. With this new chapter of your life you just completely changed who you are. You went from pot-smoking Mike Tyson who in Tyson ranch's is real nice guy to hang around with doing hot boxing with Mike. Tyson fun to be with everything's great and all of a sudden. Shift right back into Mike Tyson, the murderer again. Well, it's just that. Today if we knew who you were, we'll be very limited. In. We don't know who we don't know. You'll know what you might do tomorrow. When you wake up show, you might married. Yeah we'll listen you might get married again. Crazy take out a new job? Yeah. Well, no but that's one of the exciting things about life right? I mean this has to be exciting time for you to make this big switch. Yet think about that too. I. Think about I think about you I'm fifty four and then I'm not going to be here much longer than when I go my love within my wife and kids again. that. Loved them. My Momma. See them again as I think about that. Yeah Yeah you know when we think about this guy's. This guy's say. One beat away from internal our internal journey from guys that book and I thought wow, this is pretty cool because it's true. We only one hoppy away from dying. and. Going on that long ride of not knowing. Yeah of feeling too. That's what I was told the MTA, feeling. Yeah. The field makes the reality. How much did that change your perspective life when you had those experiences? Got Me in shape. Got Me this this. This had me do. Some of that did it I did it is just blew my mind I. Did it again? Hey, you better get in shape. It's getting shake fucking with you. LISTEN TO THEM LA did. I told you fucking. Especially when you think about it I'm not the guy you hit the say hey, my name. You know you gain a few panelists Cata work it may. You can do a big fat dumb. NIGGA. Just should be big FEP mother, your fat Lazy Motherfucker that motivates me you need to hear that and you tell yourself you know anybody the right person to tell it to me to say that. They do hey hey, hey. Listen were somewhere around Freddie. I went somewhere. To do something. So Wanna Freddie. Loach's trainers. Irish guy. You're paying any new me for years because I used to work. He said what the Fuck is wrong with you look at you man, this is fucking right look at. What the fuck are you doing and while I felt this big by neath around a bunch of people but not not a right this is not right the. Fuck. Right and Got Right yeah. Some people call that fat. Shaming. Amy, works for me works for me to. Want someone. You'll at me and I found out he that he thought that with a FEM. fucking. He wasn't talking about I want to be a friend of. If he that you Mike Mundus Raymond. Let me know I wanna do but let me know. I'm not looking good shit ain't right yeah. You know could the Guy Ain't GonNa? Tell you hang around let you staying eating and fucking hanging around drinking. That's the enemy man. Yeah. Half enemy. So. Do the DMZ trip and then you have it in your head like I got get in shape. Absolutely. Absolutely like sometimes you say they body shaming doesn't hurt people hurt some people to me make me hey, man helps me because I'm the. Only, way it hurts people is if you don't listen yes. Someone says your fat and then it hurts your feelings but you don't work out then it hurts you. But if someone says your fat and it hurts your feelings and you say, I'm GonNa use this as a motivated. Shape then it helps you. Fat Shaming is only bad if you don't stop. And look at it that man. Just what you said, who's on Santa Might? Expect that. Guy? The guy that thinks like that I'm not gonNA. Tell them I'm that's my enemy. Right? He's not helping you. He's my enemy. Right he's my enemy. So me the DM teacher open your eyes to that. Absolutely. Yeah. But that's not WANNA. Do I in camp you know. I did sixteen times. Thick Times yeah. Never regret doing it. Will be good doing. I think everybody should do it. It's just everybody everybody everybody. Everybody. Everybody everybody who needs to do it I should say that because some people believed this is all this the real world here. Now, they really believe this is reality isn't that interesting? Like once you do it you realize that world is some more vivid than this world and We GonNa be in that were along than we've got to be in this world. DIG-. This show Yeah that's probably true. I don't know what it is, but it's probably true but this will listen. This is what happened to you do this toast stuff any of those Interesting Narcotics. You have a different opinion about dying and the fear of dying. Yeah. You know you say you start to think hey, maybe I'm living too long. Well maybe that's just another existence. That's what made me think maybe this is always there and maybe this life that we have the temporary life that we're clinging onto that. So why? Why why even guided eight wide nobody wants to really stick onto the fact that after he died. So why am I want to hold onto that? Same Way more than really being confident. We're saying, Hey, there's something else after this. That from scam to from dying area what you know why people stick with that that this move that often I ride to the internal life of darkness or what it might be I mean we don't know until we die, right? Yeah. But everybody thinks that the people that think that it's just over when you die it's over you the the world of darkness and then that's it. That might be right. Or it might be that you go to that place where you go when you smoke the MTA. that. You don't remember when you were born to you. I've I remember when he died. Morning? If we're GONNA give not, GonNa remember life we had another remember this shit. Oh, I've always said everybody scared to die but no scared to sleep. Sleep some people are yeah. Some people are afraid to sleep. You know the the moments with sometime. You think I might not wake up this morning you here and you know people go sleep have been a nighttime which you didn't do any drugs than I'm wake up. That's true too. But does the thing about sleep is be pretty confident? You're GONNA come back. So you're willing to shut off. It's okay but no one wants to shut off forever homeless in the belief that you come back magnificent. Yeah. They're not gonNA wake up in the morning we went into life like that. Yeah that belief. Yeah. And you think life is just temporary. And that when it's over, you're GONNA go to even more magnificent place we live what life we Over right we leave this place right? It's another former life. We haven't experienced yet. Right? Even if it's black life whereas all talk myth is a part of life. And breath in some kind of former fashion. Well, that's the weird thing about the towed writers if there's no visions but the but the feeling sewing you. Right, feeling. So intense, even makeup or whatever you see it from. That's why filling. So important, we are throwing me understand the. Feeling that I we understand the they even lied to us, right I. Lied to with. I remember the first thing I felt so insignificant. Like you just a part of everything, you're part of the whole universe and instead of looking at yourself as a center of the universe when I did it I, it just made me realize no, you're part of this infinite thing and such a small part. Everyone is such a small part. Of the universe itself is what's big and you're just a piece of it or defeating each other. Yeah. We all yet feed me to the blood digest, run into each other fee to hold the dirt mud everything awarded Oceana air. We just all feed in each other. Yeah. The bugs there's more than I'm. More Stars in the spacing green fan in the desert. Yeah. Did that it's ridiculous. What do you think about Aliens Mike I think we're aliens think so I think with the sending surveillance yeah. Yeah. That's only come at. You can't explain if you're gonNA tell me about. I'm go with the. Aliens. if that's what you hit me with Adam and Eve yeah, I'm GonNa, go with these ailing guys. Well there's a lot of people that believe that we're the product of aliens that aliens came down and did some experience experiments with lower hominids and did some accelerated genetic experiments and creative people lytham. Alien Win when. When try the people I'm not saying cut. Caucasian when it came to Africa. Even. Before that, when people came to other people I, they seen them they were aliens yeah first, Time. An Asia man for a Caucasian. Alien. The Black Man Phil Asia and Whiteman with the Elian. Maybe Alien. But that would they thought they were do tribe of people that encountered them, and perhaps they were getting extinct they were dining. They had the Free through. Low of whatever you were saying Laura Hamad. And maybe this is earth we could they had. As you may know, I know you know you do these kind of researches. They already discovered them. There are different forms of speeds there. That's working down to Earth came from us, and now with the degree of Gif where the human species survive, there was a bunch of different kinds of humans. Yeah. Yeah. There was many many different kinds of humans and before they were here. Millions of years have. Before me the years. After we erectus After we walked, they always been here a very rare that you can find A. A human life that didn't wasn't erectus they can find the skeleton and one that walked in off forth The oldest person they found. If for me and four point, four, million years old luther believe it if four, point four, million years old is nothing. Nothing people what people were erected. Then he were walking in both feet then. You know for years. For me is ago Phil. Never. Found I don't believe they found the. SKELETON OF A. Human, that wasn't erectus. That's one of the things about life. Life is so short. Twitter that goes well. Everything goes well, you live one hundred years but that is nothing in in terms of the the life of the planet how long it took him to build the Great Wall of China thousands of years two thousand years. Yeah. Two thousand years. He imagined and nothing. Down here is. Left than were cry food been around crisis young. Young crayfish. Young in terms of the world. Yeah. Yeah Doubt. That's how how bad they wanted to keep the Mongols out they build the fucking wall took them thousands of years. You ever read about gangs com. Listen Been With T. mission. Yeah, and he Tell you what happened like thirteen he died around thirteen fourteen away. Will. Reign. With like in the twelve, th and early thirteen hundred and first of all he came he's poor mother father they all came got beat up took now he had a woman then they took is white but he kept friendly with a real bad motherf a real He was a criminal the bad at all. He was so bad and he loved Thima Magen, he just became you know how some Guy Guy hit one guy he was really weak at the time and this other gang he took his wife. And he and the Tim, this guy was making Lama raid and stuff and he was just says, what is wrong? The Guy Really loved him. He said one is wrong. I. Said these people took my wife and say, don't worry I got many away. What are you worrying about that one way by really love because he really loved her and so the Guy said listen I'm helping get your wife to Everton by that we rated this city because of a woman okay and so he went back and the guy got his wife back and throw the guy allowed. Team agenda be number two because he loved them so much. But he got jealous because the men thought it. Favoring gangs gangs would let them read everything it keep it all. He wasn't taking a keep it all the men have it all and they all started. Looking up to follow him and then the other guy got jealous and eventually genius had to kill him. But he said he wanted to give you, WanNa do that you have to kill me. And so give killing that you want go. Spill any buffy crushed when the rocks flint. No blood no cuts and like that. But that was his best friend and after he died, that's I, had the reputation. So you follow them, you pay attention to them. You you. You read a bunch. I named my dog after favorite wife. Paly oh. Wow. So I, know you've been into that Kinda Shit like Alexander the Great Yeah, all the all the different. Guys pipping. Charlemagne. Clovis. This stuff that you just studied because you wanted to study conquers the interest you. I wanted. The study that mindset. In China, I found that the greatest conqueror is. They've lived Farmers. Farmers Sheep Herders. Somebody that we weren't think that's important stuff and then they became great through that they may be birthday great children who were born with greatness i Alexander the Great and stuff like Phillip the Macedonian that whole blood light in the valley land they're all Kingsborough, very small and insignificant. Attila. One Alexander be formed that was. Pretty Great Ford against the Persians but eventually they lost and they pretty much kissed the Persians. Aff.. Burden is put them in addition of power at tell Philip Philip Macedonia came who had the Nickname Aka filled the barbarian, and he wanted to go across in slave all the Parisians and everybody after that the world and Alexander the Great. Mother who was really interesting woman. I'm trying to say are Bainian maybe and they had a different kind of Studying worshiping stuff back then so he got caught up in that his family didn't like it for that but she arranged for. She arranged for Alexander Father I think to be killed for Alexander have the power to kick. The policy could lead to her kids while he was on campaign right and. When he was on these campaign now the father was gone he just. Conquered everything. But when he ran into Afghanistan people, he fell in love with them. He wanted to into Brie with he wanted to create a new wraith of Afghan. He if Mandy fell in love with him and that's pretty much his his family is not saying but the Greeks. Went. What they went mountaineer mutiny on him can be jealous that they were given big positions to the The Persian and Afghanistan. He loved me Hebron quote Afghanistan's most beautiful people were. God. must of loved the more than anybody Lee made them beautiful he really fell in love with them. When did you start getting really into like conquerors when? Fifteen. Yeah. What would introduce you to it? I was at the table with cuffing a friend of mine named quick were set a statement which she was wrong. But if found really good to make me investigate, he alexander the great at his time was like five, five, three, hundred years before Christ that was a giant which was wrong. He was very small the armless too big for me really small guy It wasn't big at all. And so just data alone him saying that got you interested. Through the math guy not found the he says the small man average guy you know not a MAC monks. Big Men at all, but you got interested in the mindset of the conquer I. Listen this is what I want to know. Why would one person think that he could fuck it on the whole world? One person why would he have their mind? Who would think like that? Right? Why would a person? Why would that's not a fucking person? That's something. When you eagles just got so a whack. Key can't think rational. How do you think like that and you're a nice person? It was the guy reform a couple of hundred years before named. The Great. He was jeff he was a conqueror, but he was a conqueror for liberty. He wanted to call slaving and let them go Konkola slave math. Let Them Go. He got killed for that too but team who maybe that sounds that sounds cool to right? Yeah. That's good. That's a good. But listen thank about it who the fuck he here to take somebody else's property take somebody else's stuff because he believe is wrong and what you probably. Is Wrong I think it's wrong. But who the fuck the right who this guy to take on this conquer you you don't bother nobody but this is what they did back. Then you're killing everybody back then it was really legal. It's almost in the Bible in the books it's not. I won't say then Book Slavery in the book the Religious Book that we need slaves and he did this and this is going to say, Hey, no more slave so. Five hundred BC. So he does say, no more slaves. nomo slavery wrong out to the whole world. So he wants to conquer the world and free of slaves. As a different mindset. Yeah. They're different kinds of mindset is congress has. Who He thinks he is who the hell is he. He added Little Town over high cove. The whole world has counted right here. Well, forget his town his country is right here. Yeah you know. And you don't even hear him and even conquer this country, conquer the world and liberate freedom. Make Frito what kind of. Nothing if that's not somebody on drugs, you don't you tell me. No you tell me beyond. Mike. Hi You tell me it could be coke not. A free everybody, right this is the. Five hundred this. Is What it is the right way in the world no I'm a free all the slaves. That's pretty crazy. Everybody would what did you get out like reading about their mindset like studying temesan studying Alexander the great would you get out of reading their about their mindsets? I found out that the greatest ones, the Beth, the most prolific ones. All Mama's boys. Really. Faded mother. Wow polian. Alexander. In. Wow. Genghis Khan to yeah really. Yeah. What is, what do you think that is? What do you think? That's all about highly respect their mother. Think that I think their mothers were Alexander the Great I. Think she was the first stage mother I think there was some before her to you know A. Cleopatra. Then that's just what the word at anything they wanted to lead through their sons. Poured into something like that. Okay. Like that parent that takes their kids to athletic events, screams, and cheers and pump them up and no no, no. No. If the parent who. Whose Child Word is law and I WANNA be able to have that word Do you get that. Yeah. My son is king right this country, a couple of countries. But I want I want I want my thought to be his mom come out of his mouth. You think the parents convinced the child that they were that special that they should run the world. Some of them do but at some kids get older like Ivan, the Great Ivan, the terrible they get older, and then they realized these people weren't right to me and not in these killing his sponsors of the people that are registered parents and stuff you know some of the Kings did it to you know. So, when you were studying this when you were coming up as a boxer and you're studying all these conquers. You. Were trying to understand their mindsets. Yeah, and trying to apply that to your own life. Pretty much. Yeah. Did you get anything out of it? Yeah. Yeah Yeah What did what did you get like? How did it apply to your own life where the end of the day? All Ex? God, for forgiveness All of them. So. When you read all these books about all these conquerors when you're a young man and you're on your way to become the youngest ever heavyweight champion. And you. You try to take on the mindset of the Congress and you find out the all has God for forgiveness. How did that affect you? That was pretty cool. Because by that I learned greatness with the willingness to die. By. Doing research on these particular individuals and that's what they're willing to do for greatness. And you know you heard about kill either and stuff he what did he want? Short life of. Greatness in a long life of obscurity took the short life and that's It. When you when you study these people and you A. Take that conquer as mindset. Did, you get anything out of that? Did you do apply that your own, your own pursuit, a champion absolutely because you have listen Alexander Degree with thirty two and concord the known world. And Ten It's thinking about that as a as a young man. I want. I want my preeminence divide booth time the the the time it's not rain with it. I think everybody should want that competitive. In the art of. What do you say immortality? Yeah. And I've searched for it. Never. He wanted he wanted he wanted in what Halliday that's what he wanted. He wanted to be known since the you know till the time did you ever think that maybe you were born in the wrong time that maybe if you were born in the times of Alexander, the great you would also be a conqueror. No, I am conquering now because I've constantly myself and my demons. You know not because I'm at that time I've never been to I'm born in the right time. Most of them in concord demons. That's why the actual forgiveness from God all of them because just like. The gentleman. That them. alcohols, anonymous you know. He he's by maybe he maybe he had a problem with alcohol that. But how many people have the inspired? Yeah. There's so much bigger than him succeed in not his problem. You know what's interesting about him is He was interested in LSD Bill Yeah Yeah. That was a big thing of has that's what that's what instructed him to have the program yeah. Develop. The Program When you talking about they all. Would seek forgiveness from God. That's so interesting to me that you turn to cannabis and cannabis will allow you to forgive yourself. Yeah I'm listening to reason why they ask for forgiveness for God. This is why this is interesting that you said that is because they believe they were God and they had that ended today. Realizing, check themselves at the not. Done horrific thing Yeah. At the end of his life, he was so game and then giving everything away and feel sorry for everything he didn't know how to forgive himself either then. How do you do that? When you think you, how do you forgive yourself identity today? He said, look the man who conquered the world dad with nothing anything he gave every day and we had no source or nothing he was so freaked out about dying being the rich guy and stuff and having so much property and having the world like he possessed because he had the world this gentleman that he won't Eugenijus. The guy that they named sloth. then. We'll sloth genius. I Dunno but. He's considered a homeless, bum. Nowadays they who be called a homeless guy whatever and Alexander been watching them. This is how keen he is. He's watched this guy for years. And he said listen before he became king of grief. He's watch this guy. This Leila McKinnon anything. Hey listen. I watch you and I have everything. And I'm unhappy and you don't have nothing. So what can I do to make you happy and know what he had to say he's the first of all. You can be kind enough to move out the way of the sun and then allowed me enjoy my day. And he couldn't conceive deter them down for Richard stuff. He couldn't inconceivable your blue with my he was. So on the way, he couldn't even kill a guy for disrespecting he was. No Way. I have everything and I didn't realize he's happy. He had all he's the candidate. Where he was getting ready to go, it became the world well, he. Happy. And he has everything. So he thinks conflict the world is going to make him happy and he did and he what happened. Turned to a drug. Wow. Man. It's crazy. He ran the FAA experience a new drug listen when. When you went on a campaign know what I thought I thought when you went on the campaign, the movies lie. They say you campaign the jets over three hundred. Gladiator. What a ten thousand they bring the whole family with them. It's like a party. Then why the kid everything they've got the. Survey of the with them house building. The people who deal with them agriculture for that time. Everything's with the wind. If test everything when they caulker conquering concreteness, we think that's glorious conference glory in the why could no I? Conquered Robin. Raymond illegally taking somebody. Else's good. Venice slaving that conquering. That's not good people all the people we likely fade guy this guy he conquered this he conquered that they heard people they did it for greed didn't do it for we're going to help they. Did it take things because they could? Now. When you were coming up as a fighter and you were reading all these things about Conquers, you fueling your mind in that way and you were also studying a lot of fights you studied all the old school champions. Are you doing that now in this resurgence? Are you studying no thing I know everything about the. Did the research. Of the kids. Reading too. I started going to other level. So I go from the level of these guys that are fighters, the gladiator, those guys. So I go to from them to the generals from the generals to gods. In that occupied a lot of your time when you were training, right? Yeah. But what are you doing now like that? There's anything that's similar. You'd like when you were watching those old school tapes if you were watching. Jack Dempsey or Harry grab or any of these old school fighters. That was there was something about that. There was providing you with. Inspiration you're you're you're learning from it, but it was also you're getting yourself into this mindset you because I know I was like the because we tell you the more you the more you win the more you beat these guy the more that people applauding La. The more you enjoy doing And I wanted the people wondering people. Have the same feeling towards me that I had towards. The older fighters of yesterday. Yeah. So I would marry in love with fighters osias, mouses, and if I met a fighter. Hardly Hey. Let's get this kid just bug him to death carry back and hopefully this guy do your fucking. You'd think they were go like you for being A. fucking. Your. The? Stream yeah. Carry a bag and help you. But you not you don't. Study films like that anymore now? You know what I do. Sometimes have you to a? Fight Limit Shaneco atom check. Him. Ultimately from Ray Roberts Willie pep stuff have one check this out. Loma Chenggong wild gotTa Watch isn't he? He's really. Nice to the really interesting right what the footwork soaks like doing. Now, watching a lot of people hate on them that's how. You know he got the light. To Light. Yeah. Who else gets you excited? That's fighting today. You got a couple of guys Haney good guys you. Could other little guy from Baltimore good. It's quite a few and they have a couple of guys Defending them that's pretty good. That's in this got come up and be ready to go with them. L. is really good turns Crawford Crawford of the bunch of good fighters. The Little Guy Ryan. Garcia. Hot Shit. Kid. Cute. Baby Talk Shit got a nasty left hook though. L. Fighting. And they really each other faith. They really friends. You could see billy talking Shit Yeah I'm saying, I'm insecure. been plenty of they might think I'm a punk. Let me do that to me. The friends in the so cool. Yeah. What do you think of the heavyweight division nowadays? Right Joshua. There's all. Is Good for the time I don't think they're bums anything like that. Everybody's GonNa have something negative to say about somebody you know. This is timely. The Best of their time you gotta give that credit. You can't compete with guy that the path a guy that coming up now this time this is what it is right now his way now, this is not going to judge me here. What. Do you think abandoned? It's an interesting group at the very top of heap right? Tyson fury. deontay. Wilder Anthony Joshua means. Interesting group at the at the top level right now. Isn't that interesting all exciting fighters yeah. They're all GonNa make a great deal of money. They need to fight each other stop bullshitting. It's all fight each other fight each of a couple of times. Yeah. And then stuff is over you guys could say, Hey, listen. Way Right, you know this is what happened to me. I'm thirty EGO MANIAC I fell in love that might difficult effort I'm the king for. King, this is the way it is fuck you I. Never Think about tomorrow nothing this now I'm the king skits my fucking ring. And the fact that I saw and I didn't listen because the hey. It's always written. Don't take this personally took fighting personnel cut they don't take it personal not personal. A. Personal. The Eagle Make me take your personal. So when he said, don't take it personal. What did you mean by that? Don't allow the stop you from living in life in the happy perspective I lost a vital bit through start drinking to deal cocaine of. Girls rather that you don't know Ma'am Dominica. Fight Right. Duty, thank you lose the fight. You shake the guy you go to the gym you work harder prepare for the fight up you win the fight. You don't win the fight you prepare hardaway for the next. You Win the fight you don't get the fight the mother guys you win the fight, the fight him again, the name of the game you stay busy keep working. How much different would things would have been of custody? Really different, but it wasn't meant for that to be. Yeah. I had the refill I had to figure stuff he couldn't protect me my whole life, right? Now, I've always wondered wondered what would have been different if he had stayed alive I mean he he guided you such an amazing way you know when you Listen Cousins Youth guiding on. With. Cuff GIS enemy prone. If he didn't have an enemy, he would create one really one of those guys he loved fighting. He wants to five feet other fighting the one a live. Wow wants to fight. He needs tomato fight. If he doesn't have to fight him find somebody to fight, he must have loved having you. Listen everything he said. I, listened them out Malcolm he loved people to listen to them. I took them every day. He said I would do if he told me kill somebody I would kill somebody. You know anything he said I did it. Do you think about him even today while you're training. Absolutely. After I think my all the time and I'm thinking about them all the time. Well, she saw my kids. I. Wish you probably see. You know what I did I did then how my kids turned out now went to grade school than they did cooled things and young kids and they really. They really sweet kid on Dan life yet, and maybe because they didn't have. A far like I had things are different than it was for me. You don't want your kids fighting. No. No. I. Did the Swab do for the have to. I remember you were talking about your son hidden pads. And like him possibly fight like you don't want to find an animal like me. If people are doing nothing to lose. The whole dream by beat this guy. I'll get that new bike. Yeah. Might get this car I thought. It was 'cause they win the tournament will get you. Get your gold teeth. We'll try to save money of my goatee and if I win this told me you told me I'll get your gold teeth. Everything everything he always dangle a carrot. You win this. Do. Tournament and Shit. Anyway that they'll get. Well Listen Mike. I'm very excited about your comeback aiming well I'm very happy that you're doing it. I'm happy look. Fantastic. It was real cool to be able to sit down and talk to you about it and I'm one hundred percent enthusiastic about it nothing. So I look for. I'm sure some people be there and we're we're for now I would try to be their life. I would love to be there live if it's possible if I can be there. I'm just going to love this. I'm excited I'm excited I'm excited looking at you being fit and how enthusiastic you are and I wish you nothing but the best brother. Thank you. Thank you very much thing with human. Doing thank you Bob Cassius man ice brother Shit. Who would you want to end you? I don't I don't I don't have anybody in my. Interview, you won't want to do Bill Clinton Guy I'd like to do Bill Clinton I liked Bill Clinton. You know he had a brother named the hit her to awesome guy yeah yeah. Before my friend's house. Just a beautiful person. Yeah. I. But I don't need to you know I would if he wanted to do it, I would do it but I don't need to. I, like talking to everybody. I like talking to my friends. I'll tell you you talk anybody. Know what I did a couple of I talked some homeless people and they're very interesting. Yeah I think I sometimes I think and then I'm GonNa be I'm overwhelmed them intellectually and I get humbled sometimes Well, a lot of homeless people are really smart they just fucked up. Whatever partner head. That's I mean yeah I think I know this guy bound Odeon Tif around this guy's enlighten me and then. Here's the told me leave I'm stuck the. Out here are you enjoying doing hot boxing? Lytham haven't done in awhile since this stuff since you started training. F. Cool too. That's cool to. Thing, I'm a good wholesome under this kind of race in the center stone. No like I said, I could see the intensity you ramped up right now you're a different person than last time I talked to you. I guess let excited. My wife, she shouldn't have told me again that treadmill. She. You predicted it man, you predicted it on this show. He said I don't want to reignite my ego. And you did it. I'm excited that you did. I'm excited. I can't wait for November twenty. Man Listen. I've been working with show you when I leave. Okay. Show me. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you very much. Sir. Thank you. Bye Everybody. Thank you friends for tuning into the show and thank you to Harry's. You can still get Harry sharpest blades ever in big box drug and grocery stores near you just head on over to the grooming I'll. But if you like to shop online, Harry's has a great offer for listeners of this show. New US, customers can redeem a Harry's trial set at Harrys dot com slash. Rogan. You get a five blade razor featuring their new sharper blades a weighted handle foaming shave gel with aloe and a travel covered protect your blade. 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HR 4 : Mookie Betts is a Dodger!

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

37:14 min | 4 months ago

HR 4 : Mookie Betts is a Dodger!

"Opening Day L. Z. It's supposed to take place in March, but get it here towards the end of July July twenty third opening day at dodger stadium tonight against the giants and I guess if the expression has ever been true, it's true today better late than never were finally going to get some major league baseball accounts. Yeah I. Just wish that it had a longer runway of being by themselves. Because I'll be honest with you. I'm excited. Absolutely sight start of baseball. But, if you ask me to compare my exciting for baseball with the NBA. So even though I'm excited start of baseball because they didn't allow themselves moreover what way you can't tell them not peaking over in the Brandon ad extra to no look. I you guys know I'm a baseball guy. That is my sport. That's the sport did I am the biggest fan but I'm not gonna I'm not going to be ridiculous. I'm more interested in what the Lakers are. GonNa? Look like for their championship. Run Than I am this goofy baseball season that being said this goofy baseball season just got a lot better because of what they did yesterday. They sign mookie Betts to a thirteen year three, hundred ninety. Million Dollar. Deal the second best. Second biggest contractor should say in baseball history behind Mike, Trout, and and you can't say this enough. The dodgers just inked the second best player in baseball to a long term deal. They already have the third or fourth or fifth best player in the League in Cody bellinger under contract for a while because he's still a young player. Who's just getting started. They already have. More or less every other position on the field, maybe except for behind home plate. They're going to absolutely have as good of a shot to win a world series in this goofy season as of any other point through this entire thing I know we've talked a lot about it. It's a short season. Anything can happen short series. Anything can happen all still true, but the deck is stacked in a way right now that it feels like it that the the vagaries of baseball, the inconsistencies of baseball have been neutralized as much as they possibly can. Bigger signing recent signing for La Lebron Lakers locking up Lewke, putting you on the spot, Travis, yeah, it, it's. It's I'm going to steal what you said. Yesterday it. It's an easy decision when you actually just stop and think about it because it feels difficult on the on the surface, like ooh, which one of these it's? mooks twenty seven years old. Lebron is in his mid Thirties Lebron. When he came to the Lakers, the vast majority of lebrons prime had already been played now. He's still playing at an MVP level. So who knows how much longer you can do it, but history tells us he's not going to be the best player in the League when he's forty years old movie bets is twenty-seven. He's twenty seven. He's already won the world series batting title in MVP. And all these other things he is just entering the prime of his career, and he's got another six seven. Maybe eight years of prime performance left so I think it's Mukhi and I don't think it's really that close. I don't know I I. Ask you the question. Because I needed time for myself. I think about it The dodgers were world series favorites before they got. The Lakers were laughing stock with Lavar ball eaten the most of the airtime before lebrons showed up. Now the Lakers, barely two years with Lebron are the number one seed in the west and their favorite to win a championship, whereas the dodgers while the Odyssey were favor to win a championship with Mookie. They were in that conversation without him, too. So I. Don't know I'm I'm torn as to which of the two you know. We'll have the biggest impact in the city reports bringing back the greatness. Of the Lakers or sustaining. The dodgers well look I. It's it's a tougher comparison because a basketball player can have a far greater impact immediately. Baseball player. In basketball, you have little projects. This is the worst thing in the league and it Minnesota, or something like that just just picking. If you pull the Bron- on Minnesota, they're going to go to the playoffs and probably make a run. That's just that's what history tells us. If you have Lebron. You'RE GONNA. Make a run. That's not true in baseball and that's. That's why I think that. You need to be set up for a long time to cash in on greatness, and that's what movie is Mickey gives them a twelve year thirteen years including the year that we have right now thirteen year runway. Where of those thirteen years you've got gotta figure what eight or nine of them are going to be really highly productive. Yeah Yeah and he's. He's very marketable. He's smarties thoughtful. He's a good guy. We had Horeca steal. Come on, and you talked about spending time with him and just a quality person. Which I know doesn't get a lot of friends and sometimes to be translated as boring, but if you're gonNA, hit your wagon to base for more than a decade, you have to make sure that he's not an idiot. Who may end up having a whole bunch of press releases and press conferences apologizing stuff that he's tweeted where he's done. It's also nice to know that not only are. We hitched to a great player, but by all accounts were hitched to a really good guy key you know what to. Dogs. As. You were saying that you're right. That and Lebron that and you know what's crazy about the whole thing. Both of these teams both the Lakers and the dodgers, having other guy on the team that is exactly that. Oh, by the way in the not too distant future might be the better player. Anthony Davis is is we're not too far away from him. Being the best player on this team and that is no disrespecting Bron. That's just a matter of Anthony Davis is a lot younger than Lebron, and he's that good. That's all that meets same thing. Was Cody bellinger? Cody bellinger other than maybe not running out a triple. Baseball man who cares there's been any smoke about cody bellinger other than he's twenty five, and he's already got an MVP. He's twenty five played in the world series twice. He's twenty five and could play center field, right field and first base all at a high level, and he's already got an MVP and Oh, by the way we just gave that guy over there nearly four hundred million. Million Dollars. He might not be the best player on the scene at three or four or five years. The dodgers and the Lakers, both have a only liked to say like this eight a player be who could very quickly be player, a and the player as they have right now is the best going in both of their respective sports. That's how stacked both of these teams are. There so stacked that when we look over at the other sports in the city, and we look at a team at the rams, and we have a QB, who's been a multi time Pro Bowler? WHO's already a team to a super bowl? We forget about them. We're still trying to figure out if he's good enough to be in this conversation, whereas there's probably about twenty five thirty franchises in the NFL, who would love to have a qb that young WHO's locked up? WHO's it seemed to a super bowl appearance? If other so selfish Travis I will feel bad about Gordon so much talent in one city, but selfish so I don't feel bad about it. Okay, who haven't even said what about coin, Leonard and Paul George. You've got quite hundred and Paul. George, go to Kawai is not too far down the list of best player in the League Paul George. Is the third best second player in his own city and Paul Georgia's. I think about like that. Paul Paul George relative to his sport is not Anthony, Davis, and he's not cody bellinger he's. He's an all star. He's a guy that you know if you turn around one day and Paul George when an MVP. Be stunned by it. It could happen, but he's the third best player in his own civic. That's how. That's the embarrassment of riches. He's the third best second player in his own city. I can't say it enough. That is crazy. We're a long way for when Timothy Goff was the big free agent signing for the Lakers and the city was trying to figure out what the hell was doing. We're a long way from that we're we're entering. What could very well be another golden age and sports in the city, and I'm so excited, because in addition to championships that are gonna be one by franchises that we love remember. We're still hosting. The Olympics And and World class events we're on. We're on the cusp of an amazing Z.. Sports run both domestically, and internationally in Los Angeles and I'm so pumped, and having the Saini a freaky. Mookie Betts just highlights. We get jared goff locked up bookie lock. W got my chart locked up. You know we'll see what the clippers do because I think as well as have flexible contracts, but we do know them abroad is going to be here for the foreseeable future, and who knows what sparks are going to do. You! Do I guess but I'll take your. Oh! You sense of the right there. Neither of US had mentioned it to. Trump please here. Mike! Who Hold on Mike? Trout is Willie mays. Okay, he's he's that good. He is going to be if he isn't already. One of the greatest players in the history of the sport and it took us ten minutes to say his name when we're when we're listening the best players in the city. It took US ten minutes to get to Mike Trout. You mentioned that earlier that he made the. He made the announcement yesterday that he's GonNa play this season. Season he's expecting. He and his wife are expecting their first baby really any minute now and so he doesn't know how. That's going to affect with Kobe and everything else in the situation that we're all in. She was kind of on the fence about whether or not whether or not, he wanted to complain understandably, so he makes announcement yesterday that he is going to play, but it speaks to one I guess skew rating in, but it just more. It speaks to what we're talking about here in just this. Era of just unbelievable and not just good players in good teams, but you're talking about the biggest names in the sport in the NBA in the NFL in the major league baseball, and it's more than one team. A lot of these cases is just this this. Tidal wave of not good players in good teams, but It's ridiculous. As I said if I wasn't so feel bad for being so greedy. It's it really is a unique moment. Kinda reminds me a little bit of you know obviously. The city during the eighties, but also other than you think about Boston the great run of the Celtics that led to the Bruins, which leads to like the Bosox it finally eventually breaking through and been the Celtics coming through with the championship and making a final. When you're in a city that have run like that, it makes a lot of the better. You know we. We rely upon sports as a distraction. And that distraction. There's a lot more efficient if they're good. Morning Detroit listen, growing up in Detroit. I had to stretch, but who wanted to be distracted by the Lions. Take. Deal. That's bag no. Distraction was just going out and southern. Some dirt because I could just sit there and watch the Pistons because they were bad, too, so watch all your. Kick rocks. I'll take the rocks. Iraq. Those of you who don't know what his lights being a city where you're distraction sucks. Let me tell you what that life so we're going to have. Some good sports good distracted for a long time to study. mookie Betts is just a nice little addition to what is hopefully going to be a fantastic era in the city. One of those distractions. We are just a week away. Away from that as well the relaunch of the Laker in the NBA season Mike. Trudell will join us next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN, they are playing exhibition games in Orlando or just a week away from the Lakers and the clippers in their first of eight would I, guess we'll be the end of the regular season. Games joining us right now Mike Trudell. Good. Morning Mike have thanks. What's up? Fellas, nice to hear your voice. What's up to that? Don't forget. I did I still owe you dinner. It's just right now I'm not willing to risk it all to pay it off for you so just. You, get good covid nineteen definitely gives you an extension so you're? All right, good, good good, where are you? Are you in the bubble outside the bubble? What's going on? Nov. I'm back here in La. I'll be doing the game in the studio tonight I'm so that'll be unique your first time. Doing it that way so young? I'm here at the family just hanging out in La. Mike what you expect to see tonight like you mentioned that We saw some exhibitions last night and it's just it's kind of unusual. Seem the building empty and whatnot, but when it comes to the Lakers and trying to acclimate without avery. Bradley with outrage on Rondo trying to get JR Smith. Back into it. What are you going to be looking at tonight? So. What I'm kind of expecting. This is what you would see from the first. Game in a sense where you'll get the starters some minutes together to start both half's but I. Really think that Frank Moguls GonNa WanNa go deep into his rotation and see some guys that you just mentioned there travis, or whether it's the waiters or Jerry Smith or get some more minutes for mark, Morris. Hey. Let's see what Palin and Tucker can do. maybe even a little bit of run for the two way guys Devante. Essentially become so like I. think that it's more right now about getting these guys in game and game condition and that worrying so much about You know what you're play rotations GONNA. Look like and and you know getting certain guys to play together a lot, so I expected to. Basically like a practice tonight. You. Mentioned, Chiller Sucker who I know coach Bobo has talked a lot about in terms of getting his body right and working on his shot. Obviously, we heard a lot of people talking about you know regime Rondo hitting the weight. Who Have you been impressed with in terms of how they come back out of this quarantine interest in this time away from being in front of a camera. You know is a good question in just a touch on Taylor Tucker for a second I. He's still only nineteen years old. Right like he tries twenty in November, so he's got a lot of upside. That's one. The Lakers took that spot He's got a lot of tools. He's got a real unique body where he's. You know as you mentioned l. see if you can get himself in that peak shape, which is progressing towards you super long You've got them handle. He's he's stout. He's a little bit like PJ Tucker Defensively, so I think, they really liked his upside But you know this this coming months these coming months Orlando I'm not sure how much see just because they remain deep. At the Guard position even with Bradley in Rondo being out, but To answer your question directly. Who's Ma has been the guy that I've been doing the most about yeah I. Mean Look. We know what Lebron they were GONNA do right. They're always going to be the best during the Jim. Abbott Cruise I think is the Guy Represents Lakers upside the most. He's the guy that that has been sharpest recall that he did not have a preseason of because he got injured with Team USA and then yet minutes cut because he was behind the brand name. D. So I think that there's a lot more than can do. It sounds like he's been playing really well so far in Orlando. Mike Trudell joining us here on the morning. Show Mike. Is there. A I don't want to say a chance because there's always a chance, but is there a good chance that we're looking at an NBA finals? That does not include two of either L. Both La Teams or Milwaukee is there another team outside of those three? It's got a good chance to get in. Your I'm not. On the buck as everybody else, I would be really surprised. The Lakers or the clippers don't come out of the West. I just think that they're clearly better than the rest of the pack. Was You know I? Still think Milwaukee has to prove that they can win. Those types contested games when you honest is going to be required to hit some jump, shots or Going to have to play a lot better or Middleton's to play a lot better you know. They still haven't been to the Eastern Conference. Finals, in in that context until like it's just a for. They, so I don't know whether it's Boston whether it's the seventy sixers. If they get things together, they still have the talent The Toronto is GONNA. Be a tough out there. There's a chance that Miami could put it together although I I would say that I'd be less bullish on those chances, but yeah I'm not. I'm not quite in the OH. The bucks dominated in that rating category so let's automatically. Throw him into the final. I think they're going to have to prove some things one. Prove me, show me stays. Why the hell of so many people so convinced? The Yada easy when MVP. Yeah so I'm I'm not one of those people is so in this is the tricky part of this discussion is that? When things stopped when Kogi head Janas was about to be out for two weeks in the Brian was just peaking, and so like that to me would have been the difference, and he definitely would have been the MVP at that point, because he cresting was everything had been building in the Bronx season towards those times, and now the other argument, even if you just take it as it is, I would say that the numbers are pretty similar in terms of the rob production now Janas does have the advantage on a lot of the events that the net rating, the defensive rating, but part of that to me. Is it the Buzzer in the East and they played? So, many say the seventeen the east. Brooklyn is what like thirty and thirty four. the seventh season, the West Dallas is what I think forty and twenty seven, so all of those teams below that Milwaukee often beat by twenty or thirty like that so many blowouts that I thought extended the net rating and a lot of those units and they played their bench early to average is like thirty thirty minutes a game, so I thought. It was much closer than the other thing to consider. Is that the reason the Lakers are the Lakers in part is because Lebron, James brought a of the guys on the team in the first place and man, he's home and orchestrate things on the offensive side of the floor, and he's the one also frank fogler, said, calling the shots decisively, so yeah. I'm I'm I'm definitely pitching the implication that you just gave though the and I've heard you say before is this shouldn't be just a shoe and. Janas because there's not writing a better. With that in mind, Mike, could you make the same case in obviously I? Slightly different reasons, but for Frank bogle coach of the year I. Mean you go back to the the circumstances that the Lakers were in when he got hired when he was introducing his press conference, it was right when magic hit the button on TV and the whole organization was kind of in disarray fast forward to China as for to Kobe's passing in January two then just. beat it anywhere along the way. Does that make the case for? Frank Vogel being coach of the year? I think he's got a case for sure. Just like I think and not contact, you also can talk about Rob Lincoln and what were the way that people were describing things last spring and look where the Lakers are now right with a five and a half game lead as Vogel. The trick that he's going to have is there a lot of there are a lot of coaches that are up there. In terms of candidacy, people are gonNA point. The nick nurse got Taylor Jenkins like if you've got a lot of coaches, I think that who's like here. They do this award. Travis, as you know usually okay. Rich team has x as more wing than we thought Compared to the other coaches, and and you can also in that time actually put billy Donovan and okay, see and there. I don't think have done in the postseason in although I would personally give Chris Paul more credit, but I really doubt it, but yet vocals got a good place to strong case. I think they'll get a lot of votes If I had to bet though I think the nurse will probably end up winning, it's Rod. What about Caruso does? He went brother of the year for skipping. Demerit. Yeah man that was I was actually kind of a tough thing to hear about right like monster. My little sister got married last last fall in part of the consideration was like they. They knew they were gonNA have it in a time where I could go now for her. I would have I'm not quite as to the Lakers on else perusal so. My I I when I look at barely missed the game since she does like he I get it that they had scheduled for frog and parts of that he could go, and then I think the complicating factor. The of course wasn't just like or a game. He had to miss. I think that would have been one thing, but it was just. Just the risk of transmitting covert back to the rest of the bubble and his teammates, I think that ultimately was what you know. He didn't want to risk it and I respect that because it's a selfless decision in terms of the League in terms of his teammates and it's one that that certainly is is sad for him with A. With the family, but look minded man, he's gotTa. Get some kind of award I. Guess Look that the two men that rating award came. Plus Twenty? One. Mike with with that in mind with with Caruso minded. We know we were talking a lot about Dwight. When he was deciding whether or not he was going to rejoin the team. It's Lebron. It's. And then it's who as far as most important that they play well if they're going to ship Jews that they're got. So okay, so I think the guy also he's named because I. Don't think it's been set enough this year. And that's Danny Green and part of that is because I think frank, Vogel has been a little bit careful not to stretch Greens minutes coming off finals run with the raptors last year and know they since they have other options there whether it's k. c. p.. Who's played really well this season and he'll step in of course for Bradley whether it's Caruso a whether. It's crews Ma in spots especially when eighty or Or Lebron was taking a night, but I think Danny. His two way ability to me is still not discussed enough like it. It's not that much of a coincidence that he's been on so many deep playoff runs I'm he is the prototypical three in the guy I think we know now in twenty twenty. How much more important three in the stuff is than? We did even five ten years ago, so I would keep an eye out for Danny Green and just kind of remember that that he's able to guard multiple positions. He's resilience and that three point shooting. He can win you a game. Just by hitting the seven threes, and and and even when he's not hitting, defense is going to have to rotate out and give them the gravity so I'm all shot Danny Green in that context drops. Just real quick I. Don't know if you know a not Taylor. Swift announce that she's drug on. Here we go again. With is dropping surprise album at midnight where you get up at midnight because my sleep hill to listen to it. It kinda so she's. She's dropping dropping an album coming up. She's dropping his Taylor swift able to drop album. Does she releases them I? Think he's releasing. She's not dropping an average releasing. It surprised album midnight. She's she's releasing. I mean I look I think that it's good for America's was supposed to open the new stadium. See what's supposed to open a new stadium. That's correct. You know so so that was an l. for her, and just for everybody in general. Because, as soon as she's able to drop the I liked, I liked the last album I thought it was pretty good. my twins like it. My wife certainly liked it so I'm GonNa Taylor swift supporter. I wasn't expected. Answer I'm putting it in a different category now. Well. Like I like most things country countries that the I guess she's a little country, but it feels like it's more poppy. Yeah I'm definitely putting on the no access to my bluetooth grouping. You're going over here now. Where you're not allowed to put your opponents the Bluetooth and decide beats me, listen to in the car. I think he'll be okay. Mic I think you'll be all right I will. Tonight. Thanks. Rashi. Let you got it all right. You know you're on the no Bluetooth. You got a of Lizzie. Get a lot of lists of what people are and are not allowed to do. We have breaking Mike Tyson News. That's coming up next. On seven ten ESPN, guys. We've been talking about it. We've been debating it now in his final. Breaking News. Mike. Mike Tyson will return back to the rain. And I had hoped and prayed for guys is not against a soup can no is against Roy Jones Junior. Wonders, Oh, that's right I. DON'T WANNA. See this Mike Tyson and Roy Jones junior is being talked about it solidified, and it's going to happen twenty twenty. Why Track Wine Rosh? Want to see this happening i. told you I just want to see. You applied it to medicate. You just trained for a couple of weeks and put some boxing gloves on and go out there and get knocked out but my. I don't WanNa. See Him fight anybody that might hurt a man or they in Roy Jones. He's been talking about. People have been staying close to him. Stop to. They don't want to see. Roy finally got to fight each other now why? Listen I don't know why you are pro super can. Can't that a compliment soup can mean you're just gonNA. Get beat up. So who is a see? Mike Tyson beat up a nobody I'd rather see these two men. These who know champions, great boxers I, just WANNA. See where they're at and their early fifties and. Exciting to me is fun. Some more details coming in. It's going to be broadcast on pay per view as well as multimedia platforms, and it's going. To? Pay For it I thought it was. Be As mad and guess what they're going to have. A ten part Docu series on the thriller leading up to the ballot. Are you ready for last man standing type ten part Docu series. L. You just. Go. Twenty four seven. Where he's going to be. Martin. Listen. You got. That excitement it's back up now and they're going to be predicted predictions match. There's there is a better chance that I would get up at midnight here. Taylor swift's new album than watch all. Well we'll. Come on. It looks like all right so looks like they're gonNA use. Twelve ounce gloves which are bigger than the regular ones in. They're not necessarily going to try to knock each other out and I'm sorry. The I'd rather see them fight. A tomato can knock knock the tomato and just sit there and pitty. Pat Each Other. Do wrestling like W. type stuff. Wait, so let me get this straight. They want you to pay to see these two guys. Basically do an exhibition. Are they wearing helmets and stuff I? Think well I don't know if they're wearing head gear. I don't know that, but the gloves will be bigger. And apparently not coming out for blood, but Tyson's asphalt lost since. Stretches, and then tell me if you know this name. Kelly McBride in two thousand and five and royal hundred year last fall. No, not exactly but Roy Jones Junior, two thousand eighteen, so it's been thirteen years you know of. Like junior has since Tyson fought in junior fought in terms of the difference the gap in between, but it's only two years for Roy, Jones in fifteen for Tyson, but that's a thirteen year gap Roy Jones junior has been more active recently, so if it was a real fight, I mean who the two and a real fight. In a real fight. I'm still go with. Might Mike Great man? He looks like he's. PUNCHING BAG! I understand that, but every picture I've seen a Roy Jones junior so far. He looks a little bit bloated Taco meat up top so bet doesn't give me any really kind of I. Mike is where booty shorts. He's hitting bags. I might miss like he's in shape so. Died who looks like? He's more fit right now. As opposed to the guy who looks like he just left a bar and I'm watching I signals like Mike Tyson. Has Oh, he's on with Kellerman. So of course we do. Have a request out of to get. Carried. He doesn't. Like in time, call with batum like he's willing to beat me up watching it right now, definitely menacing, but we'll have to see on that and I duNno, it's exciting, but I I don't know. Murad seem fighter. Tomato can't let me put to meet again. That is going to be good man. This is gonNA. Be Good in fact I think what boxy should do is create a whole separate retirement. We'd and just put all the names in it, you know. Three cards. undercurrents. With the Big Three Big? Big Success. Getting hurt, multiple tournaments. Get. A. Pick three people getting hurt. You know they can get hurt i. don't care about that what I care about just. Up The window now I'm so caught up in. This road goes on top now. To the top I don't know why. I Tell them the story. Yes, tell the tape. You noticed one thing. They're missing their. Do you notice one stat that they're missing on his tail of the tape there showing Mike, Tyson and Roy Jones Junior. Did you notice that they're missing? I'm assuming that's money. Because why else? No doing this weight, they're not showing the weight the way. I. Has not this one, so let you know what's. Cozy. The last tale of the tape that they had no longer ballot now chances are there. Records did changed heightened saints, but they don't know where way right now, so I give him a pass on. State? Ta and for the regular Muslim, but. Go ahead. Go ahead, say Roy Jones Junior did fight a heavyweight five-member. He Wa- was that David Louisa. When he won the. Title! I don't remember that one looks. Heavyweight we have we have an abate people. locational, in La in. September, twelfth in La Odd. They're. GOING TO WATCH IT I'm. GonNa go, I WANNA. This is exciting similar. Bring. Your came walking diesel. Ashamed of yourself, you know. We woke up this morning. Thinking the biggest news of the day was going to be mookie bet signing, and that is big news, but we just got news. That's even. Before really weird odd reason simmered. In Los Angeles I am Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones junior here in the city in the eight round matchup with me right now is yours Donald. Talk About Iron Mike Return to the rain West, sub George. Are you excited for this news or what? Yeah I I'm excited I think that look he. Didn't start off, right? Your Voice was too high that was. That was not enthusiastic. I heard. It was a high note George. What do you say? A man I mean? Listen I mean it's very twenty twenty. That Mike Tyson is going to be fighting again at fifty years old, so it just feels like it's in line with everything that we're dealing with and now Roy Jones Junior. An interesting battle because Roy Jones junior is much lighter than Mike Tyson is even at this stage I would imagine of his life, and so there's going to be an interesting dynamic there. I would imagine. Roy is still fast or faster than Mike Mike's still probably has more power so I. Doubt would go the eight rounds. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm willing to watch it. That's for sure. You wouldn't have paid for it because it's on pay per view. I mean. How much are we talking about? I knew there was something today. Yeah, we started off with. I knew you weren't gonNA open wallets. But it was on C. Span of PBS. You'd be all in well, but here's the thing like it was funny. I was watching on like. I don't know if it was stars or TMC. Was Flipping around my direct TV the other day and Rocky Balboa came on. If you remember Rocky Balboa's the movie where it's the last of the rocky installments where he fights one more time in his fifties, and he ends up fighting Antonio Tarver. Whose name in the movie is Mason the Line Dixon, which is just an unbelievable. For a movie, it's fantastic. And it's funny. Because Max's in the movie Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant and those guys like an HBO production. But yeah so I kind of feel like I love that movie. Because it kind of puts a nice little bow on the end of the rocky series, because the the one they did with Tommy, Morrison was terrible. So it did a better job so I am a little nostalgic for this kind of stuff, L. Z, but there is there is a price tag I would imagine now alternate. Pay For it, but you know I mean if it's going to be like you know seventy dollars or eighty dollars is going to be like man for real. I mean I'll do it, but I would do it reluctantly as opposed to like forty or fifty bucks I'm. Whatever I'd spent forty or fifty bucks on anything. Well part of the people that are behind this are part of a social media outlet caught trailer. And Snoop Little Way future weekend tipple. All part of this was deem Eximbank uses they were battling yesterday. Havens New Bruno, is he? Is he still alive because I thought snoop killed them all my God. D. M. X. looked like he was. He was huffing and puffing a lot yesterday for sure letting. Roy Roy Jones Junior. Trying to make it through. Rogers Lily key or Mike coming back for facing somebody. WHO's a nobody? I'm not really interested in seeing him. beat up. A soup can I would much rather see how do what he's doing. Which is face? Somebody that we know just that we can see if both guys still have anything left to what we remember. Where are you with that? What do you think this is a good comeback? Opponent I? Give you another high pitchy out, but yeah, I think. I think it's interesting. I think the fact that it's too old guys. I think it brings back nostalgia, but what I would like to see because originally I thought I saw Bob Arum mentioned that you know. That maybe Tyson fury would be interested in doing a three round exhibition, and so that would be something I'd be more intrigued with, but I just feel like. The top rank folk wouldn want even take that chance because he could get injured I'm saying like you know Tyson fury that is, and he's kind of their their meal ticket right now, so I guess I. Don't blame them, but that would be more in line with something I'd like to see which is to see where he would stand against current heavyweight, which honestly probably wouldn't last more than around Tyson. That is just because he's fifty three or whatever years old like it's just not. It's not possible for him to last more than around or to. Who would you want to see on the undercard? I mean we're going old. School can get like Hector, Macho, Camacho or something on the. Card. Very very flamboyant. I, someone like that would would be intriguing to me like Julio. Cesar Chavez versus Hector, Macho Camacho if they will. They want to go at it one more time you know both in their like got to be. Either late fifties early sixties, someone would license them I would at least consider watching it. But Oscar de la Hoya, but when golden boy, but I think golden boy even involved in this is Roy Jones Junior, a golden boy fighter. I don't know I don't know if these golden boy, but I wouldn't mind seeing Oscar back in the rain. Yeah, last time I saw him. Let's my saw. He didn't look like he couldn't fight anymore well. Old Guys you like Oh yeah, GimMe Oscar de la, Hoya, and Felix Trinidad One more times I've. Had that fight and then he kind of let it go running around the ring in the last two or three rounds so I'd like to see that more importantly L Z. What do you make of of the Seattle cracking the new NHL team? Like the clash of the titans kind of cracking, yeah, that's that's their name the cracking. I can get down with that. To me, I like the name is much better than calling something to watch football team. What a disaster over in DC! I Chelsea have great morning man. Thank you so Donald Show up next.

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It's Going To Be A Big Day At ICAC 14/10/20

From The Newsroom

03:15 min | Last month

It's Going To Be A Big Day At ICAC 14/10/20

"From the newsroom at News Dot Com. Hi I'm Lexie Kat right and manager Buck Buckler, and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's Wednesday. The Fourteenth of Taiba will start a New South Wales and Liberal MP as a fearful the revelation of premier. Gladys Burji liens affair with Christ M Pay Daryl Maguire is just the tip of the iceberg. Mr. McGuire scheduled to appear at the Independent Commission Against Corruption Today. Now, according to the Daily Telegraph Munis doesn't Liberal Party is concerned missed Maguire. Activity may have attracted the attention of Chinese intelligence agencies. They're also concerned that me spare Gigli and secret relationship could put her in the spotlight of intelligence gathering operations in some other news. Now in apple has finally unveiled the offering twelve and the good news is there's four different models. Yeah. There's the twelve offering twelve proud offering twelve primax, and if you're a fan of small fines, there's the offering twelve meaning sometime smoulders better on. Lots of the twelve include magazine wireless charging Ceramic Shield screen. So at weren't smashes easily five Jay Technology and a better lo lot performance camera. You can preorder the offering twelve, this Friday with availability for Taibbi twenty-three but that iphone twelve many won't be available until November thirteen good things come to those who white like see. Now, one of the world's most famous athletes Cristiano Renaldo has tested positive for corona vars going to the Portuguese Football Federation that thirty five hours is dramatic, and we'll miss this Thursday's match against Sweden and how about these for the travel experience of a lifetime a Japanese tourist stuck in. Peru. Due to the pandemic convinced the government to open up Machu Pichu just for. The man was desperate to say that ancient incan ruins and with the help of locals who lobbied the government on his behalf hey, became the first tourist in seven months to visit the site. What a thrill. That's awesome. Oh Taika break and be back in a moment. We'll toss has explained his bizarre appearance on UK TV show Good Morning Britain and the boxing champ was incoherent during an interview with P. Morgan and Susanna raid with some view is questioning if he was high on drugs. I'm. Diagnosis. For. terrier exponent I think I'm. Doing that I I want to do things very wonderful that we're fighting together that the fight of the should add sooner but unfortunately, we haven't now that's that'd be awesome. The former heavyweight champion who is taking on Roy Jones junior an exhibition fight next month has explained his behavior saying he was suffering from exhaustion and finishing with basketball in the boomers will need a new coach for the Tokyo Olympics after Brett. Brown. quit after less than twelve months in the role. Now Brown was sacked as coach of NBA team Philadelphia Seventy sixers in August, and he's too busy searching for other NBA coaching opportunities. The speculation current boom is assistant and Sydney kings head coach will waive a serious candidate more right. We'll have to wait and say that's from the newsroom. We'll be back with another update in the vote. Your update from News Dot Com.

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Part 2: Jim Gray on Talking to GOATs, and the Pursuit of Perfection (ACS Nov 13)

The Adam Carolla Show

59:01 min | Last week

Part 2: Jim Gray on Talking to GOATs, and the Pursuit of Perfection (ACS Nov 13)

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So i know you're going to be doing a podcast with tom. Brady is a radio show. Sarah podcasts thursday. Monday night football so we got thursday night football tonight Just after we wrap it up here. Tell us about tom brady. What do we need to know about tom. Brady or tom brady justice. He appears he's better than he appears. He's really a good guy. He is so down to earth. So you know normal. He's he's he's just a good guy he's he's he's you know cares deeply about football. Obviously that's as his first and second love and along with his family and he's just You know he he wants wants people to be happy with him. And he trusts people Because he trusts himself. So he's willing to you know bring others into his life and always really just a good guy. I probably adam. Thirty one cities hate him or maybe thirty nine eleven in boston. A tapa and everybody else is just beat them so bad so he has the stigma of being like a guy because he's beaten him that he's not like but couldn't couldn't be more further and just the exact opposite of what he is. Well some of the notable athletes you interviewed i mean mohammed ali michael jordan. Kobe bryant. pete. Rose larry bird tom brady. Of course hank. Aaron ted williams so many so many luminaries and mike tyson. Of course. let's try to figure this dynamic out. So is this a fair statement about brady. Brady probably doesn't have high self esteem brady. Feels like he's gotta go prove it every play in every game and every year. It's he seems to be guy who who the second he sits back and thinks he's better than anyone in the league. He's not gonna be pushing himself is hard that a fair statement. I would say. I would say. He has a chip on his shoulder. yeah that. He's felt lighted riled. That as he was picked one hundred ninety night that he's still trying to prove all those people super bowls later that they've made a mistake and it drives him and he wants to know any wants them to pay for it. And yeah. I think the that would be how i would call it. A chip on his shoulder and He's still determined. He wants to win as bad now. He did as for super bowl. Yeah he for whatever the reason i ask him sometimes are your tormented by this tormented by this endless search for perfection. Because you've touched from time to time but you can't hold it you know it's like jellyfish escapes But because he touched he wanted again and again. It's like you know it'd be like a an addict trying to get high. You know they they they wanna keep trying to get there and and obviously you can't stay there. Maybe that's bad. Algae because to my knowledge tons never been his life. But i would say trying to touch that perfection Is is something. That just drives him so so so much and sometimes it can. It can drive you crazy. Yeah you know. I think in a in a way you know as a parent. You always kinda want your kids you hope. They're blessed in a blessed with talent. Or physicality or smarts. Or or whatever. But i think about and i was kind of think about this. The guys i went to high school with who just look good with their shirt off. They didn't have to lift weights. They didn't have to work as hard as the next guy. They would start every football game without really putting the practice in that was fine for a couple semesters but later on when you get out of high school and it's time to go to work. You don't have a work ethic you good with your shirt off. But you can't take your shirt off when you're working as a greeter for for costco in burbank. Do you feel like it. Has benefited brady knowing that. He didn't have the gifts. Let's say the foot speed or many the other things physical gifts that go along with playing the position and thus he's overcompensated with the work ethic. I think that's i think that's that's that's you know that's an interesting point because you know he's been overlooked and he's not you know he's he always says he's not physically gifted and he's had to grind in fact i was with him a one time. We were playing golf and somebody came up to him and was talking to them about another sport. Any said it. So it's kinda it's kind of like you know you have to work and you do. This and tom looked at this guy as he was breaking down in any finally said to in a really polite way in a professional athlete right. Do you understand that. I i know what it takes. This was like eighteen seasons in this was just a couple of years ago. I understand what it takes to be shaped to get your body ready. You know. And that's why tom is developed. You know what what. A lot of people have called an alternative. You know he pliability is is what he is a call that in the tv twelve method and to have your your muscles not so rigid in all of this stretching which he thinks you know. Detrimental leads to hamstring injuries. Leads to a attendance being torn. So he wants to be like he called it like a gummy bear. When he gets hit that he wants to be able to absorb that kind of move with it so tough enough and strong enough to be able to withstand the hit but but Flexible enough and pliable enough so that he can take that Absorb it without you know almost like a flak jacket so i think what you said is is probably true. He's had to work so hard. And you should just do this guy what he doesn't in the summer What when all ends and he's getting ready. I mean it's phenomenal every single day to be dedicated to this to the accelerate to to try and be better tomorrow than it was yesterday at age. Forty three. it's it's. I've never seen anything like it. I've traveled with ali around with tyson. Floyd mayweather had that same type of myopic view that hard work and dedication that was his mantra. And that's what he used to scream at the gym the time but when you see it up close with somebody like brady. Who's not as physically gifted and has had to really work at it It's it's it's it's remarkable what they put themselves through. Well it's interesting that you bring up floyd mayweather because floyd mayweather is what happens when you have the incredible physical gifts and floyd has that for boxing that fast twitch the reflex the eyesight when you see a guy with amazing defense in boxing. That's a gifted fighter just a slight head movements in the rhythms of the whole thing. So floyd what happens when you take crazy physical gifts and combine them with a very strong work ethic you end up with fifty and now what defines him the chapter talking to go to the book. adam about perfection and what it does to you in three people that i focus on a three people who covered and no very well floyd mayweather michael phelps don shula and they were totally different people but perfection defines their lives of coke would do anything to protect the seventy two dolphins and that record a so much so that he three hundred and forty seven games the most in the industry of the nfl but the in that matter to him but the record that really mattered to was that oh after that season the perfect season. And you know that. That was something that that you know very very important. Oh is not only the although after the fifty but the dollar signs so that also defined him if he could make a billion billion and a half dollars. Those zeros were very very important and became his form of perfection and if he had lost their those zeros fifty forty nine zero if he if he ever besmirched that or had that blemish. It would mean less zeroes in the bank account. And then you had michael phelps who won more gold medals than anybody in the history of the olympics and the most decorated swimmer obviously And you know here's a guy that wanted to be perfect. He wants to be the perfect cousin he wants to be. The perfect father wants to be. The perfect friend wants to be the perfect swimmer and in his attempt to be the perfect swimmer. The guy was willing to stare at a black line underwater day after day. Hour after hour minute after minute year after year at a black line underwater so that he could have a fingernail touched the inboard before somebody from some other country or or a fellow american competitor. And then you look at what he did on. Hbo and he's talked about the mental health issues that he had and all the things that he went through in his upbringing. And but just think of that that solace and and that internal drive to be perfect and what that will do to you and how that black line must be just forever and blazed a in his mind's eye and that work ethic it's is remarkable when when when when when you see that somebody is able to do that but it takes its toll. It takes its toll perfection. There's a price for it adam. Well think about. And i've never had this thought before but you keep you're talking about the black line you know when it comes to repetitive training. Stuff where you know. Tom brady works out and and everyone works out. But what i'm saying is the trainers the people you work with you. Try to vary the drills. Mix it up you know. Do this drill for twenty minutes. And then we'll move onto the next drill and even people at home or at the gym. Yeah you're gonna go workout but you put your ear buds in and you put your favorite podcast on and the screen at the gyms show showing espn and so you're watching football. Highlights you're listening to your podcasts. And you're you're you're doing your military press or whatever you're running on a treadmill why every treadmill has a tv set because most people they ran on a treadmill minus earbuds minus a video monitor would last four and be bored out of their gourd and go home with their tail between their legs. Phelps is in a world where he cannot train with earbuds. You know just music if you think about. What a motivating factor. Some guy's crank up their favorite bands and go hit. Hit the heavy bag hard or whatever no. tv's no monitors. no earbuds no sound. Really just just that black line that goes around the world five times guy. That's that's incredible. I'd never thought of that. I never thought of that every guy we see on a treadmill and a gym everybody has now. Just earbuds are headphones. You're right maybe three to five minutes if you didn't have a more even if you're just out on the job if we you know in the and the landscapes beautiful typography may be with the ocean may be in the mountains you take all that in for about eight minutes but you still either. You're you know you're you're engaged with your music so That's that's that's really. That's really interesting. I'd never thought of that because you are totally alone you know. I knew it was alone. But i'd never even thought of the music factor and to to be so to be so of yourself and to have to have that you know you have to have an internal elite equilibrium that that that has to have some form of a balanced that just allows you to do. I don't know how you just wouldn't go crazy in your head just just to do that. And you think of the other ones too. I'm sure that all of these swimmers who achieved this over the course of many olympic games. You know the ian thorpe's Who who who've repeated or janet evans and so forth it. That's a very lonely existence lonely. Let's talk a boxing. I love boxing Boxing you've covered so many great fights. What were some of your favorite. You've covered favorite boxers. Favorite favorite fights my favorite fight of all time. The best fighter i ever covered and was able to broadcast on showtime was castillo versus corrales radical incredible fight and it was voted the best in the history of showtime and it's been voted the fight of the year. It's been voted you know everything And and it was just incredible. What happened when when Castillo went down and then he put corrales down and then on before you knew it after both of them have been down and dan goossen let it brown and then and then corrals knocked out steel and it was. It was one of the best interviews. I've ever done it. I said Diego corrales who unfortunately passed away motorcycle accident. Yeah yeah i asked him. How would you describe this fight. And he said this fight was an honour. Yeah one hundred. An opponent like that anyone. Who's listening. You gotta watch that fight. Because corrales was in all kinds of trouble at the end. And he just kind of let us mouthpiece go. And his mouthpiece hit the ground and he was being destroyed in the corner and the ref called the time out to get his mouthpiece back in. I mean it was probably the most strategic spitting out of a mouthpiece in an all sports history because had he not spat out the mouthpiece he was probably five to eight seconds away from either being knocked out or the ref calling but he spat out the mouthpiece and the wrath don't know why because you're drinking a gallon of your own blood if you're in a fight like that but they have to hose it off with the water bottle because it hit the canvas. So the ref hands it to dan. Goossen his trainer and goose in realizes that Corrales needs more than fifteen seconds to recover so goose. Does this move where it's kind of plain dumb like well. We want to do this. I can go and come on with the water. Get it back in his mouth. We gotta get to fight back on and which water goose trying to by himself in his fighter precious seconds like he. He's doing a kind of a move when that when in football the other team doesn't have timeouts and the guy runs it down the field and they tackle them. He's doing that. Move where they get off him real slow or they walk back to the line route just trying to stretch out just literally by by ten seconds to clear his head so goosing does that move and gets it back into corral asus mouth and he knocks guy out that that's that was a great. It was joe goossen dalvin. Dan unfortunately passed joe goods that he's going in the hall of fame with the class. Last year was canceled because of kobe. But guide your memories. Incredible you just. You just said that exactly for begum it happened. Yeah i'm more impressive than people. Think i think i. I don't doubt you for a second and to hear that we don't need steve. Albert had the replay. He just gave it exactly exactly as it happened. So that was a great fight and that corral died months later. I think in a motorcycle accident makes it kind of it was. Yeah it was very right. Oh exactly two years later. Sorry but a short time later all right second second favorite five favorite fight hagler hearns. Oh yeah okay. Great is the greatest. Three rounds. I mean it was just incredible. Yeah i was there for Rank rankin doing the interviews. The prefight in the post fight doing satellite distribution thing so that was a great fight. And i really. I really enjoy marvin hagler. Company marvelous marvin. Hagler company was a really understated guy from brockton massachusetts aeneid goodie in at who were as trainers and managers and so forth in the petrocelli brothers. It was really only marvin that they had They had his brother robinson's as well but iraq. An marvin was just a down to earth. Really good guy. But he didn't. Didn't you know he wasn't bombastic. And he wasn't any of those things and ray leonard was the hero of the era. So so marvin. You know always kind of took you know. Took the back seat. Even though he was just he was a great guy. You ask guys that. I like that i really like marvin hagler and he was terrific. Obviously mohammed ali was You know marvin happened in my professional life with me and mike tyson. So i i would say that. Those are my favorites Marvin hagler one of the only examples of guys who laughed at the top of their game. Move data least became an actor but never was enticed back. I mean coulda had some major payday fights you know. Certainly you know a rematches or there are so many fights for him to take in so much money to make. Where does guy get that kind of pride or what what what is it. I think he was just totally disgusted with the decision. When they gave that decision to ray leonard he felt he won the fight and he felt that race stole all those rounds at the end by having a barrage in the last ten seconds and it influenced the judges and it just bothered him to no end that that's the that's how he would suffer a loss after waiting so long for ray leonard and being teased for so long by mike trainer in ray leonard. Mike trainer was as Is manager and ray did stepped away in the and then finally came back and ray fodder brilliant fight but marvin was very very angry and bitter with what that was a need. Just kinda said screw it. I don't need boxing anymore. Boxing needs me I don't wanna tolerate her. Take this and i think it was just crushed was bitter and crushed and so he just set up. Not doing this anymore. He got out of dodge left. His wife bertha Ended up getting divorced and moved over to italy and had a very successful acting career in italy and is seemingly was happy. Twelve successful defenses of the title. Middleweight champ from eighty seven. Yeah the thing about the fight with the sugar. Raise it you know. It wasn't the worst call ever ever seen but it was I my feeling is you gotta kinda beat the champ. And i i don't really think he beat him but god bless sugar ray because his gm was alluding to sugar rate has had this thing where he told us corner to yell out thirty seconds in each round. And you really. I don't know why more people own employees this but the three minute rounds which means they're six segments of thirty seconds. I don't care who you are when you watch agai win. You know if you saw a guy win the first thirty seconds versus the last thirty seconds of around and now it's time for you to write something down on a scorecard you'd be a fool not to do the last thirty seconds. And so that's what he did. He come in there and do those flurries which didn't hurt hagler. But he do those flurries for the last thirty seconds of each round and then whoever was judging go well that one goes to. The guy did the flurry at the end. You're exactly right. You're exactly right and you broke it down exactly correct. I mean this just popped into my head. But i'll how often do you hear somebody who's who's who a loved one or who hadn't seen somebody in a long time and then they see them really close to their death and they always say i wished i hadn't seen them then or i wished i wasn't in there at that moment. Not because they didn't love him because they wanted to remember them as they were in what was in their head and that last impression can be so lasting. And so that's what what your heart back to So what you're saying about. Boxing judges You know it's just normal wheat. We remember what's most recent and what's most vivid and if you can steal those rounds and earns an an leonard was very very proficient at doing that. And i believe it did weigh on the judges and you know he wanted floyd money mayweather. There's gotta be a fight looming for him with. I don't know. Ufc guy or something. He's got to be something out brewing. Right what's brewing. Always something brewing with a may e always says he's retired and then if somebody you know puts another hundred million two hundred three hundred million in front of him. Lend retire in a heartbeat. And so you'd like to fight a beep beep now. Said he is tired because of the death of his father. is a huge payday for both of them I don't know what the appetite is for that again. I guess because you have is so so strong and popular and abib and floyd as the pay per view. King house The most pay per views ever with the with the manny pacquiao and that fight that we had on showtime and then the second most was with the conor mcgregor. So you know. He has box office. The problem is is. It's getting so far out there now. Several years already since he fought andre burgo real boxing match. And it's an and that was a foregone conclusion that he would. He would win his last match. And so i guess if you know a lot of people thought for a long time at adam that he would fight. Many backout again But had some success in in the last couple of years and may be better suited right now to beat floyd mayweather. Who hasn't been fighting. So i i think that that probably is off off the table but It's never over for boxers every time they say it's over you can bet long asked roy jones junior and mike tyson. What is your take on. Roy jones in tyson. Anyone has seen the footage of tyson working. The focus pads lately says Tyson looks like the scariest fifty two year old on the planet What's roy jones is plan with tyson. Roy jones lulu lot. Roy jones lot roy jones was one of the most gifted athlete of all time and was completely dominant in his in his prime. But he's not a bona fide heavyweight tyson tyson. Pretty much is how does that first off. What's the weight that what are they doing. A catchweight where. Where's that thing gonna land. Well mike tyson. I spoke to him yesterday. Called me on my birthday. Which was very nice and A mike is lost one hundred pounds. He told me yesterday. One hundred pounds. Wow he's in fantastic shape and he says he really feels good about where he is and himself and you know his weight and his mental outlook is is just fantastic. I've been overseeing the gym. I'm going to work on that. Fight showtime nice enough to let me go work on that broadcast and so. I think it's really interesting. He's fifty four years old. He hasn't Fifteen years okay. Said since mcbride and he was done he was done after that fight and he just said it to me in the ring that night he said. I just don't have this in me anymore. Don't have that instinct to go out and be ferocious. Wanna do this anymore. So i think now the passage of time and getting in shape and you know seeing what's what's gone on with athletes who have extended their careers. Obviously and other sports are not getting hit like he is but to see just how well lebron james plays at an age Getting older see. Tom brady to see drew. Brees to see these guys now. You know lengthening their careers. You know it's an exhibition. So we'll find out but tyson did tell me in an interview that he would be willing to fight. If you know see how this goes he would be willing to fight evanger holyfield on third and if he does well he would consider one of the champions right now possibly a joshua or fury down the road and you know everybody can point to george foreman right. The our was wasn't fifty four years old But let let's see how he looks. I i know. I know that a lot of boxers of told me that what they see in the gym. Just the speed that they would not want to be hit by that. Yeah i was Thinking about so i. It's it's it's crazy how resilient you can be and how the body can comeback. So i interviewed tyson at his premiere of his documentary. That documentary i think james mangled did it. I can't recall. But yeah i think so seems about eight years ago maybe nine years ago. I'm trying to think it was. It was a little while back. And i saw tyson and of course. I'm a boxing fan so i'm a tyson fan. And he was shuffling. He wasn't really walking. He was kinda shuffling his feet and kind of looking down and he looked like an old worn out blues singer. And i remember after interviewing him. I go wow man. Time has not been kind you know. He was forty five at the time. And i was like man. Retirement has not been good to tyson. He seemed his spirits. Were down and like. I said he moved like tired. Older person and the notion that a decade later. He's in the prime of prime shape and getting back into the ring. Should just let everyone know that you may feel like shit today but Clean up your diet died a little. Get off the whatever you're on get into the gym and see if you don't just bounce back. Oh james to- bac sorry not james mangold james to- bac and at the movies from nine so this eleven years ago. Yeah it's it's been a minute was the name undisputed just called. oh tyson. It was his one man show. I guess was undisputed show. This was just tyson. Which was a really cool doc. But it was pretty melancholy to like you know when you hear tyson talk about tyson. He's not as big as fan. You know he's had the most amazing life a anybody in in in in the book adam that you know. I think that he's one of the very few or last. truly honest. Athletes is own medicine when he does something wrong. He is responsible and accountable for it and he stands up and he does it. The ninety fifth year off a twice a bit off part of the year moby came out and did the interview. He didn't hide behind ryan as later and pr. People came out an answered the questions when he left jail he stood there and he answered the questions for me. You know lee upon leaving jail and and you know there's an interesting segue in the book You know that. I revealed here that i hadn't before we talked about it on the air. Mike wrote me a letter when he was in the indiana state penitentiary and it. A letter came to my house inexplicably. We're not social. We were professionally. Acquainted hit had been opened by prison. Guards it was a five page letter and on the second page at him There was a paragraph that said. They would let me go tomorrow. Mr ray always call me great. It will let me go tomorrow. And kill my number which is slang for time lifts or a if i will admit to this rate however i did not i did not rape this woman and i will never admit to something. I didn't do next paragraph however there are four or five other things that i've done throughout the course of my life that are worse than what have been accused of therefore i feel i'm at the right place at the right time. Wow wow so. I had this letter when he got out of prison to do this. Interview on nbc. And i said. Mike was this a private letter or or can we discussed this. You can ask me anything. You want mr gray. So i asked him that question. What was worse covered his lawyer. On life elevated. Look over his lawyer than back at me and he said it's probably best not to answer that question on national television. I don't know what the statue of limitations is. However what i wrote you is true. It's karma i belong right belonged. And that's why i was there while. Yeah you don't get that. Well i don't know maybe maybe prison would help. More athletes reflect an internal. I don't know but yeah that is very unique. Tyson has a very kind of he has a an interesting philosophical intellect. Mixed with a from the mouth of babes. You know just says if he's thinking it he's gonna it's gonna come out of his mouth sometimes good sometimes bad. I want to talk about that. Fight with holyfield biting off the ear and tyson. Thinking was being headbutted a lot and that entire world. I want to get into that. We'll take a quick break and we'll come right back with jim gray right. After this real men are an endangered species shouted down and hunted. But adam knows you're out there alone in a sea of cowards. That's why he built place for you. Rare breeds to come together. That's why he created renaissance man at redman. Usa dot com. You'll find your one stop shop for all the products that Adam and real men like yourselves actually want things for the outdoorsman. The drinker the driver and yes the lover renaissance man is worked for all the fans go to find carefully curated gifts vacation packages and articles on things that are actually interesting not blogs about which statues should go next. It's a calling card boys for those who understand that the noblest pleasure in life is living at well head to run man. Usa dot com for yourself or the man in your life and get ready because this christmas adam corolla brings you renaissance man so jim grades book talking to goats the moments you remember and the stories. You've never heard Gm all compliment you in that. I think the reason we've had such a long and storied career and the reason you have these relationships with this crazy diversity of athletes and then politicians and luminaries is because of your very affable fair approach to interviews and commentating and that kind of stuff. I think i think you have. I think those people have to trust you. Otherwise they're not going to open up to you. And there's i don't know if that's something you've cultivated or that's just always been kind of you. I think it's i think it's always just been kind of me. I haven't i. Haven't you tried to be anything other than what i am. And you know so you know. It's true to relationships and friendships have to be reciprocal rile. I can't go decide that. I wanna be hanging out with kobe. Bryant or jack. nicholson or tom. Brady or mike tyson. You know they have to want that in return and so you can't really put a faint on it. How are you friends with people. What makes a relationship work. There's all those intangibles i was. I've been very fortunate to have been able to gain the trust of these guys. And i'm humbled by it and truly truly grateful and and and you know i. I can't sit here and tell you why that has happened. You know i was the thing. That's the first thing in the book is the words of kobe bryant. And you know. I don't mean to read this year but this is this is what touched me most. And that's why that's why it was the first thing he said. If i had one word to describe. Jim gray i would say honest. Yeah and then he goes on and says he says that so it kind of it kind of speaks to what you're talking about. I've always thought that loyalty integrity and relationships was was the most important part of that was much more important than any of it than being a good broadcaster than than the doing big games that you had to have that and if you had that if you had the relationships in you're honest and you could be trusted that would take you to levels that you probably never would anyplace else while asks dr. So that's kind of how how i've acted i haven't tried to be anything other than than what's inside and who well. I'm here to testify to your honesty because when you're complimenting me on the corrales fight replay twenty minutes ago. You're dead nuts on and i appreciate that that exactly right. I didn't mean to see the replay replay. You painted a picture for beta as it happened role. It's you know you don't larry. King larry king and larry king who was great broad broadcaster. You know. I saw the way that he behaved with people and he was genuinely happy for other people's success and he he. He didn't think somebody doing something. Well whether arbor walters or somebody who would be perceived as competition somehow detracted from him. And when i worked for bud greenspan in my early years adam He said something that i thought was so arrogant and condescending a when i was a youngster that was repelled by then i got older and i said was that i knew i was good when i could look at someone else's work in admire it. Yeah right. I see your work. And when i hear that i'm thinking got down does have that plan in front of them. How does he remember all this. That's remarkable i. I never was a i. I never was a reader. So i got my information visually so when i would see something or hear something i could commit it to memory. I couldn't if i read about it. I'd have no recollection of it. Which made me of course a horrible student but a a good analyzer fights from fourteen years ago or god seventeen years ago. I don't know that fi even was a. It's it's about the right timeframe all right tyson. Thousands fan famously Thais in two thousand and five all right so it was right in Tyson famously biting We'll take in two bites on holyfield's ears. He get each side. Yes got eat your low here. And then he'd been on the other side and that's when mills lane step in and that's it. I told you not to do that. Did it again was. He being headbutted battling that fight. And that's that's what bothered him. And that's why he was so upset. Because he said before the fight mills. I'm gonna be headbutted. He does it on purpose. Is going to stop me from being able to be effective okay and mitch halpern and the first fight. Did not penalize vander holyfield. And so mike was very bitter about that With lynn fielded one that i fight in stopped him Because you've been headbutted repeatedly so tyson would say after after the fight with me and an atom the only time in my career where i've seen actually the physical skull of another human being. The cut was so deep over his eye that you could see the white of that orbital and he had not had an stitched up yet and he's and he said you know i had to retaliate. Brian i had to somehow figure out a way to even the playing field. So if you're gonna keep bugging me and that's what he thought of now was deplorable. There was despicable and it was wrong but in his mind he was just trying to get even so that he can have the playing field of that guy hurt. If that guys had part of his ear off maybe it would hurt him. His pad is just as i was hurting from the butts. Well rational. But that's but that's how i felt. That's what he did in a weird kind of a weird way if you break it down and you said to an average american. Would you rather be headbutted to the extent where we could physically see bone above your right. I like a gash. That was so severe that it got down to your orbital socket or have someone by off a small party or ear lobe. A coin toss. I'd probably go for the year. I don't think i'm taking that trade trading down in the draft and hoping that there's there's another choice from what i'm saying is i understand go. Well that's insane. What mike tyson did. The holyfield was insane. but not. If you're being brutalized by the other guys cult to the point where you're being destroyed by these headbutts. Yeah and you know it was all very it was all very. I don't want to say out. But i just did another interview. That's it's going to be on fox they're gonna special on talking to goats which is really nice of them. On the book. And i interview. I go back and interview a lot of goat's brady's on it tyson. Eric dickerson lonnie ali and so forth by the people. Sorry layla ali lonnie ali his wife. Lonnie ali Thing is gone so Go back and talk to them. And i asked tyson about that night and he says he would do it again and once again if you feel like someone is busting your head open with the top of their head. Then well got him. Stop kind of an astonishing to me. Astonishing to me the that he would say that after everything he has been through a couple of things that i would not have expected at that would be one of them. You know the thing. I always admired about holyfield and holyfield's a pretty complex guy guests. There's reasons to like him and reasons not to like him. And i don't i don't know him but his bravery i've always admired and i couldn't tell if it was generated by his deep religious beliefs or he was just a guy who went in to a tyson fight with tyson being the baddest man on the planet of the biggest bully and on the block and holyfield's plan was to bully him and most people are kind of thinking about not being hit by tyson. Not trading in the center you know thrown hooks with him in the center of the ring. Holyfield never seems to display any fear or self doubt or hesitancy hesitation or anything he just you know tyson will tell you i was i did i was scared. Or didn't wanna do it or whatever it was all bravado scared inside or something holy. Beal just seems to go. Holyfield's the guy goes mike tyson. I'm gonna kick that guy's ass and he believes it any any threat. He dominated really. I mean you know. Mike wasn't able to gain any traction with him. And he's a terrific guy he said you known and you know that and i think we talked about the last time i was on. You know. only field didn't go crazy that becau