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Ep. 112 | Ryan Preece
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John Hunter Nemechek and Todd. Gillan even better one. Lucky winner will be chosen. Receive race tickets to join front row at the championship race in Phoenix later this year. Hey everyone welcome to the racing writers podcasts under host Kelly crandall today we're sitting down with Ryen priests of JT Doria racing to cover a bunch of topics. Ryan was nice enough chat after the Phoenix race which unfortunately has been the last Nascar Cup series race that has been run this season due to the ongoing corona virus outbreak but given It means this interview is still timely. When it comes to Ryan talking about his season and what happened in its most recent race which was pretty important for that thirty seventeen. Some of what you'll hear in this conversation is around the realities of being a cup series driver working with new teammate. Ricky stenhouse junior who joined the organization this season and wearing the pecking order. Ryan sees the two car team of J. T. H. E. It's a great conversation. So let's get to it. Here's Ryan Preece on the racing writers. Podcast we'll get this role in Ryan it's funny because when I was GONNA come over this morning I was like. I'm so glad that Phoenix went with good when well. Yeah I mean 'cause 'cause I was GonNa Start by saying you've had some really good looking race cars results but Phoenix as you tweeted. Finally some points on the board so it has to feel good yet does it was a long day. But you know there was no quit for sure with Trenton. Everybody over there. There was a lot of adjustments that were made throughout the race. And you know like you said. At the end of the day we ended up with a top twenty which is kind of where we kinda wanted to start the season. But you know looking back on it. The results don't show it but Daytona we were going to end up. Probably right in the top five top ten which would have been a great day and then. Vegas. We're going to have another great day to and just a motor. You know just something out of our control so Forays into the season. It looks like a big hole to dig out of but I feel like we're going to head in the right direction and that's something that we look to do is to keep moving forward time. GotTa start somewhere trump for clarity. Say for those who are going to listen. We're talking after Phoenix. So this'll probably I think air after let's see we got an Atlanta and then homestead so it'll be relatively soon for clarity. Say we're talking after. Phoenix got some points on the board. Hopefully you will start heading in that right direction. How hard is it not just from a competition standpoint but you now being a sophomore here in the Cup series? How hard is it just to be a cup series driver? It's not easy. It's definitely not what you think you know from the outside looking in a lot of one of those people for five years ago that or even you know three years ago that when you're outside looking in man you guys get to travel a time. I watch the cars that stuff. You guys are cranking. It left the whole time. And it's just like nope that's not the case. It's not as easy as it looks. You know at this level. I was talking to a buddy of mine. These cars are so well. Setup even cars that are running thirtieth or twenty fifth or whatever it is there a couple adjustments away from being that much better and I help at a local level. These cars would probably win races. You know what I mean so to win a race at the Cup Level. Your car pretty damn near perfect like we're fighting for little things that we make sound a lot bigger because it means that much more so it's not easy when you used to be one of those people from the outside looking in. What was the first biggest misconception? That was shattered for you when you finally got to do this. Very easy to drive. You know what I mean like. It's just a whole different level of commitment when it comes to going into a corner at one hundred and eighty plus miles per hour selling it off in your trailing behind somebody and hoping it's going to stick or you know how much dirty air affects your car. Not only in the front but side force. There's just a lot of things even on restarts you're going to be wide open no matter what because if you lifts there's a whole saying like you lift you lose that's one hundred percent the way it is so Certainly I think what this package. Oh it's even more so I mean the amount of technology that has been brought into Nascar. That's open my eyes with Australia's get is called. Sm T being able to look back at individual drivers points during the race or practice. Just seeing those things it's like man. I lifted to fifty percent for less than a half a second and I lost to Carling's it's like you got almost tell yourself sometimes I can't lift even if it does something I cannot lift and it puts you in a tough spot. Sometimes because you can risk wrecking that racecar. But that's why for five hundred miles. We are on the edge typically. I don't care what package you're in. I mean sometimes you know whether it's the old package which I got to run this weekend or the new package. They both have their challenges. Sm Date. I wanted to ask about that because that's a relatively new thing over the last couple years. We're mass car has opened it up to where you can see now. What everybody's doing and just compare yourself to your teammates? How valuable is that to where instead of walking down and trying to ask a kyle. Busch what he's doing. Now you can actually see what a Kyle Busch or Jimmy Johnson or Kevin. Harvick is doing well. The day is a games are kind of over like I. I was joking with With another driver not too long ago about mad house a car and I already knew you know what I mean like I see it and they kinda like they played the game a little bit with me and I'm like okay. Well I can go back on this laptop and kind of see what you're really doing here. South. It's just the days where you could look at a guy like well. You know I I was lifting here and yeah you do a little bit of this kind of gone. You know in a sense. It's always nice to talk other drivers to kind of understand the feel that they're looking for because that's extremely important but you know where he's lifting where he's breaking. It's not necessarily a well if I lift here and I use this much brake pressure here. It's not going to do the same thing. There's other factors that go into that with the way their car setup. I your car set up how the car is going to react to that. So there's a lot of things that matter in that sense but it's always nice to be able to go back and look okay. He's wide open. We need to help this or I'm wide open here and they're lifting and they're going fast or whatever you know what I mean. It's nice to be able to have actual facts and not go off of what somebody's telling you and have it to trust whether author telling you the truth for sure. Yeah I know you've been asked about of course ricky coming into the season but now that we've had a couple of weeks to get under your belt a couple of races under your belt. Where are the areas in which he's going to help you and vice versa? Are there things that you can maybe give back to him? I think the The combination of him. Brian Pattie has obviously they got a pole at Daytona. And they've run like well for sure you know. They're up there in points. Ricky and I have similar feels when we talk post practice just kind of what our cars are doing so we tend to look or try to find similar things in our race cars. That's good ricky's also you know. He's a veteran howls. He's thirty two. He's only two years older than me but he's got seven plus years more experience than May so it's nice to lean on him. You know for sure and then it's still early. There's still a lot questions that I want to ask that. You know I am sitting in a room right now they just popped up into my head but then as we get going you know you tend to fall into the moment and forget so you know we have a full year ahead so there's still a lot of things. I want to kind of ask when those things arise but You know it's been great so far working with him and he's definitely helped bring a lot of attention to J. T. G. And and you know we talked a lot about in practice which is gray and obviously that also going to some super speedways. I'm excited when we go to him. Keep a notebook right keeping. Look all those real thick notebook. I feel like in a way Ryan you when you came into the series. You're timing was almost bad in a sense because the cars keep changing the packages. Now are changing. We keep your crew. Chief is even changed. Has it been hard though in all seriousness? Almost find a rhythm when stuff keeps changing to adapt. That's what we have to do is drivers. It's what we all have to do in this. Sport is just adapt. I do wish we would stop messing with things. It's just like you know it's when your mom tells you when you're grown up like hey quit messing with that. It's just leave it alone. GimMe a couple years with something you know what I mean but Do you feel like you're good at adapting felt like I ben good I mean for sure I did. Enjoy the low downforce package this weekend. I felt like good. You're did bring a good tire that had fall off so you did see some comers and goers so yeah. I don't know what people want because you go on twitter and this is why tend to stay off some of these things and if I want read you want blue if I want green you want. Yeah it's tough so at the end of the day were all dealing with the same things. So we're we're GONNA race no matter what but what I thought was cool about the low downforce deal with the tire combination. Because that's extremely important Was that there. Were people losing control their race car and wrecking or stepping over that line. Where in the other package restarts are amazing? I mean I sat and watched the All star two years ago at a restaurant. Connecticut and I was like man. This is great racing to watch. But it's it's difficult from a racer standpoint because the edge is really far you know what I mean on a short track. It's really tough to overstep that boundary. So it made for cautions this weekend made for opportunities on restarts and restarts exciting so that that was cool. That was fun. Let me put it in your hand. What do you want? You say? You don't know what everybody else wants in a perfect world. What would your feedback? B Twelve hundred horsepower? Exactly what we had entire fall off. You know I feel like these teams Have done such a great job in development with how to get cars to drive really well to the point where seven hundred fifty horsepower. You know eight hundred horsepower to me. Feels like it's four hundred because we got these cars driving pretty well now. We could dial them out and make them Dr not well. But that's not the point so if you give us more horsepower than we know what to do with that will make us. Drivers have to think okay. Well I'm not going to rush into the throttle here because it's GonNa jump sideways. No matter how much forward drive this team gives me. There's things I can do as a driver to help so that really. I joke with a lot of people. Like hey give us. Horsepower is possible. Why Not Make It happen? What are the things you think you're good at? You've got your rookie season under your belt. I believe he made a few starts in eighteen right. Just a just a handful of starts to do in cup. I made a handful of starts in two thousand fifteen fifteen the whole approval process. I'm told not yeah. I knew you had some stars. I wasn't looking at the year so you have all right. So what we can throw that out because I was so long ago. So just going by rookie season and then four weeks in two or four or five weeks now into your second season. What are the some of the things you feel like you do well behind the wheel? Typically restarts is something that I tend to try to be aggressive I feel like I'm an aggressor when it comes to things like data passing also been something that you know. We have. What I'm looking for is something that I'm usually pretty well at I think there's plenty learn. Ken Bouchard is somebody who who I worked with a long time ago. He's from my from my way and something that he always taught me is the day. You think that you're done. Learning is the day you should quit. Because you're you know there's always going to be something more and and I would say the air stuff is definitely something. I continue to work on. But you know it's like you were just saying this is my second year in Cup. This is my third full season at the NASCAR. No Big Three level national level so Definitely have a lot less experience than some of these guys who have been doing it for who knows how long but You know I just tried to continue to maximize everything. I learned every single weekend and work on communication between you know which between me and Trent to help you know aid that process of constantly unloading where we WANNA be and make those practices really beneficial. So that's it's it's been a lot of fun. I I really like working with Trenton and him and I with communication wise are definitely on the same wavelength. Yeah I was going to follow up on that and say it's been a couple of weeks. So what kind of idea do you have of what he brings to the table in terms of how? He's going to be able to help you. Because he's got some races under his belt as crew chief. Oh He's built this. No He's not and he's He's somebody I definitely respect a lot. I stayed out last week at Phoenix. You don't really have to because these guys all get their jobs done. Do It really well. But it was something I wanted to do just to be on this thirty seven side and kind of spend time with them but So I did my interior out there and when I was done I was kind of like. We're they were setting the car up and I was sitting there with Trent and we were explaining some of the things we can go through with him and it was just the way you know when we were talking there was a lot of when he said something. I okay yeah. Lightbulb went off. It's like okay. Yeah that makes total sense. We break down the corner and go through at the same and I felt like get positive results from that so I enjoy working with him. You know not only I enjoy talking with him. It sounds like you guys under can understand what each other saying and going back and refreshing. My memory pulled up Daytona five hundred Media Day your appearance there and one of the things you've said was I liked your philosophy which aim high you'll -CCOMPLISH high if you're gonNA finish low so to speak so at the time you were saying. Hey I think we are a team that can contend for the playoffs Try and win some races go. Is that still? I think we need a lot of luck. I think we just need to dig out of this whole I mean it was a heck of a whole thing passed that yeah like we are in the ground. You know what I mean and we just gotTA climb out. And that's this past weekend at Phoenix was a step in step in that direction. I there was I mean between Daytona Vegas and then after the fact of California. I didn't feel like I could do anything right like nothing. It's just one of those things where no matter what you do. It's like anything in life and you just feel like you're down in the thompsons like man. What do I need to do? It's a frustrating feeling but at at the end of the day you just gotTa go do your job to the best of what you can do and maximize those weekends. And and that's what we did at Phoenix Eighteenth after. That was really honestly like a win because we did struggle. Sam and I feel like that was a step in the right direction but as far as jt G. as a whole and the speed once again in rhythm. I feel like we can run top fifteen and then sneak those top tens and Those are the days were consistency will pay off. You guys saw it with Ryan Newman. Last year he made the playoffs based on consistency. Now we had our three mogens or two mulligans but we need to just keep moving forward and and be consistent where would you put? Jt G in the pecking order so to speak. If you have your Hendricks and your gibbs in your penske's who people would always put at the top when we start filling out that list is at the top fifteen. Where do you guys fall in? The pecking order. So it really. I mean if you guys noticed because I follow this stuff a lot I pay attention a lot. Those pecking order chain weekend. Week out look at. Jj are what they were at Vegas or California. I mean you always have your cowboys. Or whatever. Like one or two squeak in there but then we outran a few of them at Vegas. It's so early in the season changes. Not a good weekend for them. No it wasn't. There's been weekends in the past to where? Hendrick and ASI row sh- Stewart Haas. Everybody's had those weekends where we put our names up there to where we can be one of those top teams. I think it's just really coming down to finding that niche finding that consistency and then showing up week in and week out with that same sort of. I don't even know the word I'm looking for. This happens to me lot people so you gotta bear with me but like I feel like we can compete with those guys. It's not easy for sure but I feel like we can be in that upper echelon of the top three certain places and then there's other places that you know we tend to struggle but as long as we can take those things that we worked on that we can you know whether it was better better good and then go to the next time and make it that much better. That's how you get to that place. Do you have a so? A lot of your background is often talked about because of how you got here where you came from. And you're doing it for the short-trackers right which I think is awesome. I love that people won't short-track. Yeah no I'm not you know I'm not GonNa sit here and I'm Gonna I'm not GonNa talk about it or you know. Praise this praise that you are the guy so where I was going with that is. Do you often have conversations now? Being in this position where you you're in the at the top level do you have conversations with guys who are still running short tracks and just tell them about. The journey is anything you can tell them about. Sorry I keep cutting you off. I get excited about stuff like this. So Doug Coby Justin Bonsignore two guys that. I've raced hard with I've wrecked with I've won against and I've lost against. We have great group chat messages. Kinda like when you guys see Nazem go on there on twitter and just start posting like a driver whatever from cop we have those conversations so I I just got a text from them last night and they were talking about some good stuff just kind of how the NASCAR root system or racing root system in general has kinda been so. It's it's an interesting deal but you know at the end of the day. They're happy for me and they they always you know they always send me some good words of encouragement sometimes. But you know it's something that I enjoy racing against them and it's a lot of fun but like you said short-track racing. It's something that you know. Kyle Larson did you know on the dirt side crispell. Did I did a lot of some of these other guys have done. You know that that true grassroots system where you bring a fan base with you. That's something that I see. I have a big northeast following along with the East Coast for sure and I think that's what helps the sport is when you you have that fan base coming into the sport that brings people to the TV. You know instead of just turning on and you know yeah I kind of like this guy. It's like okay. I went to that racetrack for years and I followed him whether I hated him. Whether those people hated me or love me they still supported me and it was. It was funny when I even people that I have had like that. When you walk by in the pit area and you just did not WanNa look at them. They texted me. Or you know I. It was just one of those things where they had a lot of respect for you and now the I think that was cool. I have a few more racing questions but I'll end with those. I want to jump topics. Real quick because I know last year. Nbc Did a short little thing talking about you and your wife because she has a racing background. And I wanted to dig a little bit more into that. Because I believe it said on their youtube started dating when you were both running modified we did. Yeah Yeah how intense was that relationship when you're both competitors but then somehow you strike up a relationship so this is back when go pros were like becoming a big thing all right so I loved it. I loved that I can put a camera in my car and I'd go back and watch it and I remember the first thing he said to me as a monkey could drive that car she she gave me so much crap. Like I'm like okay. Well you do it you know but we Yeah so the year we started dating. She moved up the S. K. MODIFIES. Which is not a full blown tore modified. It's it's basically what pro model is which for people that aren't listening. It's about two hundred horsepower. Or one hundred fifty horsepower less than what a full tour modified is and that year. I ended up winning the championship. She won the rookie of the year. Which was great and yeah. She always gave me good words of encouragement. She wasn't like the person in the grandstands. Seeing things from that point of view she could see it when I laid on earth far on so many she was like well. I was a little aggressive. Or you know she. She gave her opinion but That's what I love about her. She wasn't afraid to tell me when I was right. And she certainly wasn't afraid to tell me when I was wrong. So you know it gave us a lot of common interests and and obviously we're married now and she travels with me a lot. She loves it. We were sitting in the off season for two months and she. She said to me after we got today to them she was like I was getting stir crazy. She loves the travel. So it's It's definitely awesome to go through this life with somebody like her does she. Still Critique your races now it depends what does she do now. So now she she. We got horses so she takes care of them some up in Winston Salem. She'll drive up there. She was a fulltime teacher and So she did that for I think. Six or seven years but You know we moved down here. It's I'd rather have her with me on the weekends so she takes care of my Ryan Preece merchandise store which is It's it's been awesome. So she's kept busy with that. She gets it she gets gets this life and not only on the side but keep in my life scheduled together and emotions at the end of the day. Oh Yeah yes. She gets it for sure all right circling back to. It's a cup stuff. I got a few more questions here. So of course a lot was made this year of Camaro having the new. The new Camaro bodies zero one one Ali. It's only a couple of weeks of course again. I know I have had a lot of practice in the off season. I wrote about it quite a bit. I could get familiar with it again. It's only been a couple of weeks as I keep saying. But have you got an idea of of this car being better? Is it better than what you guys had? Oh absolutely I think You Know Vegas showed that for sure. I think you saw that out. Of even even Alex Bowman California was dominant right. That was awesome Vegas Chase Elliott was extremely fast. Our cars were fast. Basically every Chevy. I'm not somebody who's WHO's been in this a long time but I can tell you. It helped kind of closed that bear that gap that we had some of the other manufacturers. And it's from what I feel. Put us on a level playing field and now we can. We can worry about some of the other things that we're trying to maximize for some things that I felt like. Maybe we were lacking now. We're we're on that even playing field and we can focus on some of the areas where those other teams are worrying about. So it's it's always really good and I feel like this isn't going to be a year where Chevy's zero one one L. E. is is going to have a good year so that's all from like a technical standpoint from you. The driver behind the wheel. Can you feel it? Can you feel a difference? Is there a different fuel to tires? Grabbing the asphalt so that that was Corlett joy I remember when he said that not changing subjects. But the whole Darlington story with the Gano. It's great but Yeah no it's just air is free Kevin Harvick said that to me air is free and actually bubba Pollard. Said that too at new Smyrna because we were talking about open-wheel stop and and he was like May WanNa you do this and I'm like I don't know 'cause I don't worry about stuff on that side and he's like air's free but it definitely You know whether there was some things that we change from last year on set up side but it definitely drove really well. I felt really good about our long run speed which was great so I would say yes. It's helped I mean but I don't I don't see the technical stuff that other people see right and that's why I asked you know from driver standpoint. What do you feel? What can you see sitting in that seat? I made a dif- it helped for sure. I definitely didn't hurt all right. Two more things for you The next couple of weeks again with this will air after homestead so we have Atlanta coming up which you had a good run going last year. Homestead Bristol Texas is coming just preview. The next couple races the tracks that were going to kind of where you guys thank you can get back on this path and what. You're looking forward to goal number one. Don't recommend pit road at Atlanta. That's GonNa Beagle number one now. It's cool with that that was a real But you were running well when it happened we were. We were taught which was fantast tenth or eleventh or ninth or whatever it was it was great so I know there's going to be some things different this year. So I'm looking forward to go into Atlanta. Which is is something that's really good and then we go to homestead which is kind of like a wild card. I've I don't I don't know what to expect. It's kind of like California to me. It's just been one of those places where I've had some decent runs and then I've had some really struggled terrible runs. So do you think it'll be different being there in March compared to November? Or you think it's going to be all the same I think temperature-wise about the same. So really shouldn't be any big curve balls that perspective. It's just no yeah I just. I don't really know what to expect. You know you never know where where you're going to need to run that day whether you can make the bottom work and makes me doing that or you can make the top work. It makes me doing that. There's never really a right or wrong answer. It's it's it's a total unknown. I look forward to Texas because we were having a really good run at Texas last year in the fall race. Which was we actually even got stage points. I think that race which was great so Homesteads really the only unknown for me. Definitely April is a month that I look forward to. I know where we didn't. Have you know the best Iran? We ended up eighteenth at Phoenix which was great but somewhere that I look forward to as a racecar driver is going to places like Bristol. Where I've won going places like Richmond going to a place like Martinsville where I've won places where I feel like I can. That's where I feel like I am going to be right there. You know what I mean like so and with this now new. What is old is new again packets. It's still you know it's all relative like it helps drivers. Actually it's for people that have for people that have watched as a thunder. I think at the beginning. I'm GONNA ALWAYS GONNA use days of thunder quotes but I live across the street from the barn by the way. That's a great that's It's actually sad though when you go back and watch that movie and see you know how it used to be versus how it is But it's tough sometimes even even short-track level these these these teams have done such a great job with finding that balance that they need and and we're still just trying to find it you know and this is this is my fifth race working with Trenton. But what I like about what I'm seeing. We are definitely heading in the right direction. The like I talked about the wavelength of what we talk about. You know in the things we change like we keep crossing those things out that that haven't hit it eventually. You'RE GONNA run out of things to cross out and you're going to hit it. It's just hopefully. We're going to hit that sooner when we come to this short-track be is that somewhere where. I feel like we can have those great days. What was the comparison there? You're going forward. It's under before I interrupted you. I don't know I forgot about it. Remember what I said earlier in the show just kind lost. That comes and goes yeah. I'm the same way for my brain's moving a million miles an hour all the time. I'm the person that can walk from one room to another to go get something. Forget what I was going to get. Okay computer so. I don't even have to walk anywhere. I opened up a window to go. I'm like wait a minute ago. Yeah exactly all right. Let me get you out of here on this question Ryan so against sophomore season. What has to happen this year at the end of the year. What by when we complete this season what has happened happened this year for you. It's a very broad question. But so nobody's going to be harder on me than myself. That's something that you know. Even even finishing eighteenth after the day we had. I sit there myself and I'm like man I i WanNa you know. I'm competitive. I'm no different than Kevin Harvick Akabusi after a race when they finish wherever they do they WANNA win. That's what makes us competitors. That's what makes us racers so I just strive for improvement but at the same time I'd be lying if I sat here and told you I you know I'd be happy with just finishing fifth or whatever it may be so me as a racer I want to win. And that's it's tough but You know if we could dig ourselves out of this hole and continually make car better to where we are consistent consistently running where I feel like. We can run. That would be good. I'd I'd be able to sleep a lot better at night for myself as a driver but I just WANNA fight. I want to you know. Get CATCH ELBOWS UP. I want to pass guys. I WanNa be on the offense. So that's something that that we're working towards and no. I'm extremely proud of everybody with J G Doherty racing and Kroger and all of our sponsors Cotton Hill and and Velveeta and you know all those cool schemes that I get to do because our owners my owner tad and Jodi and everybody in the marketing side with Bam marketing is working really hard to sell those sponsors so we can do things that we love so going back to what you were saying. I I don't know how to answer that question because I feel like those. Those things can kind of change you know as a season goes right now consistent sleek consistently running top twenty two. Where where you know. Top twenty top fifteen would would be really good. My hopes is that throughout the season as we get more. Hold of this Chevy. This news the O-on One L. E. Body that we continue to make gains. And and you just got to constantly change your expectations throughout the year from week. You know from how you start that weekend how you start that race and how you end that race. That's that's Kinda changing thing but me as a has a racer short-tracker as a competitor. I want to win. That's that's what I want to do. I don't just say I want I mean it. You know so. That's that's the goal like I said at the top of the show. You've had some great looking car so just keep digging out of that hole starting getting those results and I'll Hopefully I can keep making some Velveeta cheesy posts and you know we can just. We can keep digging. Yeah I think that's the perfect way to end it. Thank you thank you. My thanks to Kelly Boyd. Jt Doria racing for having me at the shop a couple of weeks ago and coordinating that interview and thank you to Ryan for a great conversation. Could you tell me enjoying himself? I remember as we were recording. How Fun and easy the interviewers and I felt pretty confident that it was gonna make for a good episode and I appreciate the feedback from last week's episode with Chocolate Myers or we talked about his role with Sirius. Xm NASCAR radio and then walked through. The Art. Museum is really enjoyed. That those of you who are CR fans are Dale earnhardt fans before that we learned about being a pit crew member with Justin fiedler. And then my aunt Snyder and crew chief Andy Street or also two of our recent guests so remember. If you like what you're hearing you can leave a rating and review or reach out to me on twitter. You can find me at Kelly crandall or even find me on facebook. And if you're going on facebook just remember to look for my public page while you're on the line this week. I want to remind you to visit the line. 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Daily - Alfredo Goes Cup Racing
"The final lap with kerry murphy is is on anthony. Alfredo is moving after the cup series. It was announced recently that he will drive for front row motorsports in their number. Thirty eight ford mustang. Toby our co host for our podcast. The final half weekly anti christie dot com while he chatted with anthony recently and he had this to say about this massive opportunity to be so great compete every single week at a fulltime schedule at this level The jets very typer now to it's going to more rode horses and things like that so i'm looking forward to building chemistry with the rate team as well because it's something that i hope to be long term. You know i feel like. I'm i wouldn't call it a longer to get here pretty fast. But now the public armless. I'm just starting now. Like i hope the start of a long term future and i am looking forward to getting these and started pay. Check out the full interview on this week's edition of the final ap weekly subscribe for free. Wherever you get your podcast just remember the final lap. Weekly hey kerala has inked a multi-race cup series contract with racing and will attempt this year's daytona five hundred which by the way is just a month away from today. Man can't wait. He is slated to run the number sixteen chevrolet and said quote. I have grown up dreaming of reaching the nascar cup series. I have already worked with many of the team members before. So hopefully that will help us. Hit the ground running next month bring on the daytona. Five hundred dot com.
Daily - 2021 NASCAR Daytona 500 Recap
"The final lap with kerry murphy is is on the twenty twenty one nascar daytona. Five hundred is in the books. Where on lap fifteen a massive wreck took out the pole sitter. Alex bowman while running. Second his teammate. William byron erico. Merola eric jones ryan newman ryan blaney. Martin tricks junior. Kurt busch and believe it or not many many others and then the lightning and rains came. We waited almost all day during the red flag. And when they came back to racing it was denny hamlin winning the first stage and later winning stage two as well all right now on the final lap. There was a massive fiery crash to the checkered flag to end the race when brackets laskey was pushed into his teammate and leader joey logano at the time. Let's run down the top ten and then we'll talk about the winner ten to one. Kyle larson coriolis joy jamie. Mcmurray ross chastain at number seven got ryan priests denny hamlin trying for his third daytona five hundred in a row. It was not to be finished. Fifth kevin harvick a former champion of this race austin dillon's same deal chase elliott searching for his first daytona five hundred win but he gets his best career five hundred finish at number two. To victory lane michael mcdowell fortieth driver to win the daytona five hundred for his first career. Win leading only the final lap of the race. Michael drives for not a mega super team. But a much smaller. Bob jenkins own front row motorsports eighth driver to get their first career. Win at the sport's biggest race dot com.
Ep. 114 | Todd Gilliland
"Hey everyone welcome in the racing writers. Podcast I'm your host Kelly Crandall it is April six here on this Monday. Which means it's almost been a month since we have seen cars on the track. I hope you and your family friends are saying safe. Bring this unprecedented time and saying saying to. Hopefully I can help with that as the podcast rolls on this week. Todd Gill is back on the show driver of the number thirty eight front row motorsports Ford F one fifty in the truck series in this episode. We're going to hear about starting fresh with a new team and a new team and has also new truck series so todd reveals what his emotions were when this deal started to come together. Of course todd was pretty beat up last year for what was considered a lack of performance. Kyle Busch Motor sports which included missing the playoffs. Todd is going to share with us. How much weight on him. What it meant to finally get a win late in the year and Martinsville and whether twenty twenty can be the reset that he needs mentally. I found that really interesting that and more including what he's been up to during this racing hiatus and where he stands on this surgeon. Ira seeing interest. Let's get to it. Here's Todd Gillan. On the racing writers podcast. Let's not do that. Let's do this instead. It's all it's been. What a week or so since this whole thing started just in general. How are you staying busy? Todd during this unexpected racing hiatus what have you been up to pretty much the same stuff that you do not just hanging out going to shop as much as you can but eventually the my guys will have much more else tough to work on There's only so many parts so many trucks to put together so play video games. I did a whole puzzle site which was interesting very different from what I normally do. So just stay busy as best we can and having fun at the same time so it is something where you can treat it. Almost like mentally at. It is an off season so you would do kind of what you would do during the off season where you know. You're not going to be racing for the foreseeable future but be as prepared as you can mentally prepared things like that absolutely and this gives us me and my team a lot of time to prepare obviously does for everyone else too. So you can't take this as too much of a vacation can have to stay sharp and be ready because I don't think schedules come out yet. But when we go back. Racing Tim be incredibly busy. So you have to be prepared and ready for whatever comes next because no one really knows. Got To be ready for whatever and ready for anything. Well that was the next thing I wanted to ask before. We jump into some racing talk. Which is when we get a schedule. I would imagine for all three series if we don't cancel any races. It's going to be pretty tight schedule for you. Guys in the truck series are not necessarily used to that right. You're used to one or two races here. They are you ready for that. What could be a constant race after race after race? You thought about that yet. Yeah I think my team has to and that's like you said maybe we don't have enough trucks to do that but we have to be smart about the way we go about it so I feel like everyone will be in the same boat there. The trucks could definitely fit in a lot more races but the cup series is GonNa be crazy busy just because they don't have any off weekends so that's part of it though. I think we're all going to be kind of scrambling when that time comes but I think will be ready for you know we can turn around trucks pretty fast and I'm looking forward to it. I hope a busy summer of raising will be really fun once. This all blows over so two races in Daytona in Las Vegas. Do you have an idea after those two races kind of what this team is capable of? Yeah I've been actually really happy with the speed that we had at those first two races. Daytona. We're able to race are way up to the front and I feel like we put ourselves in position to win at the end And we're kind of in a wreck but that's Daytona all you can do position yourself so and then go into Vegas. We struggled so bad in practice and then no one gave up. We change to all four springs before the race and we're able to run up and second for a while and still. The truck wasn't driving exactly how I wanted to so I feel like the speed was really good. Felt comfortable like I could race. It really well. So hopefully that carries on and hopefully we can get our trucks a little bit faster by themselves. Wave qualified where we wanted to. But like. I said we've raised the well so just keep working on the little things you know. Build faster trucks every week. Yeah you Kinda hit on the good and the bad there the speed but want to drive a little bit better when you think about those two races though what stands out of things that you know you guys can do well and again. It might be a little tough because it's only been two races and two completely opposite races when you go from a superspeedway to las but are there things already that you saw in those races of okay. We can do this well. Yeah I think I'm just really proud of the team that we've built in general to the shark and working really hard. My pit crew was amazing Vegas. I gained like twenty spots altogether on pit road which they kept us in the race. And my spotter Komen Presley. He's the Best I've ever had and like I said just being able to gather all the information after practice and make an educated guess on what we needed to be really proud of the whole circle of of guys that it takes to put together a whole race. I feel like we put together a pretty solid race for like I said the truck not being the fast one there. You mentioned Coleman. Are you working with him for the first time or have you worked with him before those are together which is stands out that you think he'll be good with when it comes to you? I think he's just really good with the draft stuff like that the aerodynamic side from the sparse and he can see what's going on a lot more and he's helped me a ton with that. You know every spotter. That's part of their job. Now is is seeing that every week but I feel like he's just really taken it to the next level with me obviously haven't break his laskey. They work really hard every week in on Cup side and then he spots for awesome singer can xfinity too so I think a sponsor for good guys every single week. That's three chances three times the experience so he sees a lot throughout the weekend and that experience has helped me a ton. Brad seems very complimentary of the job. Coleman does so if a cup champion is saying that you should be in good hands. That's always the goal. I think they teach each other and learn off each other. So change is scary but it had to have been a little bit overwhelming to not only change teams but join a team. That is fresh out of the box and starting a truck program was it or kind of. What was the feeling when this all started to happen? It's like okay this is GonNa be new for all of us like when I first heard about it. I was super excited and then as a time came. I got super nervous too. So but also you gotTa have confidence. I think as once again the first couple of people for my team. I feel like I could see the the team. The goal that we are searching for the type of people were looking for and just to be able to find a lot of lot hardworking racers to be on my team. I think that was really important. Once I saw my team I like I said I got way less nervous and more excited about it again. But it is lot changing manufacturers. I'd been Toyota for my whole life. Since I was fifteen with them and then come to Ford. It's it's really cool. Obviously my family's been with them a lot longer than anywhere else so kind of coming home to them and also remote sports just to to take the opportunity. My Dad raised here obviously for a lot of his career and cool things coming along with a with a great opportunity. And what can you tell us about the makeup of your team? Who's on your team? Who Know that John Lennon crew chief has a little bit of crew chief experience? He's pass engineer over it. I think it was Levine. Family racing but the rest of the guys that you just mentioned when you saw them got you excited who. Who's on the team? What made you excited about that. Makeup Chris Lawson is my truck chief and he was my crew chief Kanan when we won all those races already. Yup So there's a couple of guys that we're at DDR Causley last year in years past that I've been really close with and there's a couple of those guys in a couple of new guys like I said John Leonard Dillon. Capello's my engineer. He raced modified on the west coast. So like I said I think everyone just really understands what it takes to be a winning race team and the work it takes so I don't think it's a surprise. Anyone never gonNA have to work harder than anyone else to be the best. I think you touched on this briefly in the opening when we were talking about this unexpected hiatus. Will this help you guys in a sense? This unexpected break to kind of zero in on some things that you learn from the the first two races maybe get your fleet of trucks prepared. Could you guys turn this into a little positive having this break I think so think the Vegas at ran really well and we're super happy. They didn't office so I think we're we're really prepared. Anyways coming for these next three races I think he was going to be Atlanta Homestead Texas. We had really good trucks lined up. We're excited about it so like you said. I think it's just an opportunity for everyone to regroup and whoever does it the best I think he's going to become best-prepared wherever we go back. Grayson. If THAT'S CHARLOTTE. I think that's our first race right now. So it's weird. He started focusing on like these next three races. And we had a bunch of racists planned out and then you kind of have to scratch all that and kind of your focus to Charlotte which is like way out in the future for us. You mentioned the word regroup. There and I wanted to ask todd after last year. We know all the I guess could say drama. That was around it. When you start fresh in a sense fresh team for you fresh grouper guys all this. Is this a year where you can kind of settle yourself back down recenter yourself regroup and just focus on yourself? What you're doing and not have so much outside voices. If that makes sense yes I think so. Just having people that I feel like really believe in me and that just gives me a lot of confidence going to the Racetrack Philip Myself at Vegas and Daytona being aggressive and just me driving the truck and so the truck kind of driving me being out of control like this is the things that put yourself in bad situation so I think those just really fun. I'll so excited to go back to the racetrack. And that's the thing that you have to do you. Can't you have to enjoy every single week and I think everyone's enjoyed it attorneys? I races we keep that up Winnings always more fun so get victory land. I think everyone enjoy it more. Had IT NOT BEEN FUN? Had it you know after lie with way things developing last year. I mean how down on yourself were you. I was pretty down myself because eventually I mean it's partial you personally truck partially teammates. It's everything it takes to win but also when one part of its missing or another part you don't run how you want to so I think at some point you have to think man. Can I still do this but I think you always believe in yourself as a race Cordova? It's your job to be ready for the next opportunity when it comes up and I think getting that win at mearns rule is huge. Because I had never given up on our teamer or nothing and I think everyone was still working really hard so at the end of the season when everyone's kind of beat down any ways to be to go win at Martinsville. I thought that was really cool for for everyone to get that boost confidence back and now a new year new attitude. It's back to having fun right like you. You mentioned you just feel better. You feel different. That's always good. Yeah exactly so. I'll super excited to for the opportunity over there. I felt like every chance. Every time we went to the racetrack could have an opportunity to win. But after so long not you kind of expect to run where you think you will and but now this year again I feel like we can go out and compete for wins weekend and week out and be the dominant trucks. That's what I'm most excited about. It's GonNa take some time though right. We gotTA GET BACK. GotTA GET BACK. So we can't go to the simulator right now. The wind tunnel testing. No nothing so just kind of got a wait and see young driver like you not being able to go to the simulator. Does that her at all. I'd say a little bit just being out of the car for eight weeks. I mean you're gonNA see whatever can come back fastest but I think eventually it'll open backup before we go racing so I'd say maybe it hurts. Engineers a little bit more puts them behind on their work to go to the future. You know we haven't read anything for Charlotte. They have to have a certain file to do their simulation stuff so no that they can't work and all that yet but just give them some time to regroup like we've been talking so over the last couple of years I wanted to ask. How have you changed over the last couple years you come from Canaan where you're having so much success you move to the truck series good team with Toyota? Then you got the downside. Now you're coming back up. We just talked about your refresh restart here with front row motorsports. Just how have you changed over the last couple years as this as your career has changed through the last couple of years? And You keep taking more more and more steps forward. I've grown up a ton going into KBM. I didn't really know what to expect. I was seventeen years old at the beginning I wasn't even old enough to run Daytona on a few of those races at the beginning of two thousand eighteen so I was just taking it all in. It was crazy today. Tone WITH KYLE. Busch motorsports a great team. I couldn't even recent. My Dad was racing so I was hanging out the whole time. I honestly had no idea what to expect. I expected to win races right away because I believed in myself and my team but we just didn't do it but I definitely learned a lot having to grow up. Do that stuff work with people for the first time being out from under my dad's wing put it. He was always right there. He's my spotter. In K N N and then two thousand eighteen. He started his own truck team racing against us so focus and I had my own focus. I think does the biggest thing that's not having him. You know every single second lien on kind of having to make some decisions for myself and put myself in a small group of people just like my crew chief engineer myself so I learned a lot about what racing's like in the top three levels and I think. Kvm does really good job of upgrading. A bigger team. You're not the only driver who has had success in previous series and then as they move up it gets harder and harder and harder like the recent example. I've been using his look at Christopher Bell right like we're used to Christopher dominating the last couple years and expanded and oh man he might be in for a long year in the Cup series right. They have some terrible luck right now. What is it like for driver and again not we're not speaking on KBM but in general what is it like for driver when you find so much success early in this case for you kaneohe right. What is it like then when a driver finds that success but then starts moving up and it's not coming as quickly? How big of a reality check? Is that for a driver? Yeah I think it happens really fast like you said just Steven Tyler Co customer. An crystal ball all ran like really bad in the cubs fans this year. I think it's crazy to see. Everyone says you know it's by far. The biggest step is from xfinity cop and I think that's incredible. See this year. Those guys were super super good last year and then I'm sure they'll get there but just crazy. The first few races ran how they wanted to. I'm sure so. It's definitely a reality. Check though right away now is able to win first four races in so that just once you win. You're just like there and after four. Use expect to win every single week. Almost so I feel like I made that transition really easy whereas K B or the trucks once. You don't win right away. It's kind of hard to get there. I think once you get that first win you kind of note it's like can you feel more confident you can do it at that level so once you get the first one out of the way it helps a ton. Is it like a confidence thing like a mental thing of okay I can do this a reassuring I've done it before at this level night. You know I think if we can keep doing it so I think the first ones like I said enough of that. They should come easier front row. Motorsports again this is not a new operation for you so to speak because you mentioned a dad race tier and so you knew them. You've said that before you know owner Bob Jenkins and all that. Do you have any memories though of being around the team? When Dad was racing I think my coolest memory was at Talladega when they finished and second. I'll send on the pillbox and their you know idea like you have the radio and just listening to spotter we were looking for TV screen obviously the TV's are way behind on the pit box. So here's like looking around. You're blinded they're going down the backstretch and then they come around us and their first and second those an amazing memory. Both teams were going crazy. And I think those the highlight of probably my dad's career just being able to do that as a team and kind of put front row motorsports in Victory Lane for the first time. Obviously in a second but just being a part of it was really cool so win away again circling back to you now being a driver here. It is a new organization in the sense that they're feeling trucks for the first time but is it a little comforting than in a way. You know these. Is You know this operation. It's not like you're just blindly walking in someplace. For the first time I feel like any race team front row included. They all want to win. It's part of it to grow and I feel like the truck series program is GonNa really highlight that that for sports is a winning race team and obviously they've won a cup races Not as consistently as everyone would hope to or want to but I think the truck series is program is trying to show that firm Schwartz's winning race team week in week out and and hopefully keep developing the cup cars to to be competitive top five or for wins in the near future. Can this team win races? Todd can you guys contend for the playoffs absolutely? I think we're expecting to be in the final four at Phoenix. So that's something that I think is everyone's goal if we don't get there. I think we expect Mitt Myself in Tanta Gray kind of the DDR lines trucks to definitely both be in the playoffs and be contenders every week. So you mentioned DDR THERE. Obviously Dad is over there. But you're both for programs me a little bit of an alliance right. How does that work in terms of do you guys? Are you guys able to lean on each other? I mean he's young and still learning too. But obviously you have data over there. How does that work still between these two programs and you having somebody that you can go lean on when you WANNA talk? Something outer have questions helps a lot so our alliance we use all our trucks Like I said there's a couple of people that work from jar now on front row so we pretty much at the shock would run it like a two car team. Me and tanner. We have to work together to share information. I think that's where some of our educated guess was able to come from. We kinda went pretty much. Exactly where tanner was during practice. He was pretty good. And we're really bad. So that's the positive side of it. Obviously sometimes it will be the other way around. You wouldn't necessarily want to help other team but it goes both ways and I think that's just one example of it's really good thing to have more than one team more than one set of information once ice. Look at everything and can be the best you can from that circling back to we. Were talking about the playoffs. What are your thoughts on NASCAR expanding the field this year from eight to ten drivers? I mean last year you were one of those guys on the outside looking in so you know what that feels like. Do you like the move from eight to ten. I think so I think just especially with the amount of competitive trucks are here. I'd say there's like sixteen good trucks that could compete every single week. So that's the crazy part. You know I think the truck series is quite a bit deeper than even xfinity this year. So it's just All part of it. You know the winning these races. I think it'll be even more fun this year. Beating the guys that we're GONNA be beating now. It's at the same time. It's kind of the same peop- racing against like my whole life. So it's kind of crazy. Our everyone moves up together but just different stages and deeper fields. Every time we move up again been talking about and this is your third year truck so it's almost like you're really kind of settled in you. Know the INS and outs of this series. You're becoming one of the more experienced drivers. I guess you could say this field. That's pretty crazy just thinking about like every east more truck races and probably like you said a lot of guys will be racing. Yeah Yeah exactly. I was there one time. I know what they're like. Yeah we can beat them so in mentioning third year in the truck series. We get so used to young drivers maybe a year or two. And then it's up and onto the next thing you've kind of settled in again like I just said to the series. Is that by choice? Kinda taking it slow or has it also been a little bit of there? Just hasn't been the right opportunity yet to move up so I think you know seventeen year old me rolling up to Daytona. I think perfect scenario we would have obviously won the lottery aces and doesn't eighteen and competed for championship. Maybe second year in trucks go win a championship and then move up and do something different. But obviously when you don't run how you want to you have to go back and rethink things and kind of regroup so I think that's a great opportunity. I've say I didn't really have anything so front runner sports. Taking this opportunity on me is huge. Like I said a bunch of times just being able to build a team like we wanted to and hopefully go out here and compete and really show get myself back to the level that we were in Canaan when everyone thought I was one of the top drivers and I really still think I am but just to to prove to everyone else again and hopefully get more opportunities in the future. This is a huge year for me. I got one last question for your kind of two prongs. Let me start with the first part which I saw. You've been doing what some I racing right. You've been competing in what they're calling it the replacements one hundred have you always been an IRA sir? Is that something new that you've just got into? I have never really ran. I racing too much and I haven't been released yet my first ones tonight. So gotta go practice a little bit. Hopefully try not make too big fool of myself. I saw Jimmy Johnson rectal yesterday. That was pretty funny as great for some time champion but provided some much comic relief that we all need it exactly and actually it turned out to be a really good race in the end to also entertain so hopefully we can put on a good race tonight. Ours won't be on TV. But it'll be on twitch I think so. Check it out. I think it'll be a lot of fun. Was that just something again you get into doing during this break. Just try the IRA for sure. You know a bunch of my friends race in it and it's really just fun. Obviously we love to drive race cars and even if it's on I racing so just little competition and a little bit of fun to all right so that segues into my final question for you. Todd is where do you stand on a NASCAR? Everybody industry coming together and using I racing and e sports as this thing to kind of drive fans to of hey we can still entertain you while we're not racing. Do you think that's a good thing the way that we're kind of pushing this whole east sports thing right now? I think so? I think something. That's really good. I've seen a lot is no their sport can get as close as NASCAR canned simulating. They're real thing. The real finished product of racing. So I thought put it on on. National Television was amazing. You know it's something you never thought of at the beginning of this year you never thought I race would be on TV Dale Jr. Denny Hamlin battling for the win but that's part of it. I hope that we gained some new fans out of this I think Denny Hamlin's been on sportscenter a couple of times as a great opportunity The sports world with so many people having nothing to talk about nothing to watch if Nascar can like you said entertain you for a couple hours on Sunday. That's great 'cause there's a lot of people that have nothing to watch that that will definitely venture into Nascar for the first time. Maybe tally appreciate the time. I appreciate you coming out of our social distance. Worst we're still practicing social distancing. I appreciate being able to get out of my apartment at least come. Have some human interaction. So thank you great to be on. Thank you todd and thank you Jeff. Denison of front row for welcoming me to the shop. Before the corona virus outbreak started to escalate to where we all are now which is hopefully in quarantine and not on a beach. Somewhere as I said the top of the show. I hope you are staying safe. Let's all do it. We need to to beat this and get back to some sense of normalcy until that happens. I'll be here with some more shows. And why not just let you know what's coming up over the next couple of weeks on April thirteenth? We're going to chat with Justin Haley. About how bored. He has been these few weeks in maybe about his career to on April twentieth. We have a great in depth conversation with Jack Irving and Tyler Gibbs of T. R. D. They are going to share US insight onto Toyota's direct investment program. How it works. And how evolved over the years? And on April twenty seventh. It's Nascar veteran Michael McDowell on the first four races of the season which feel so long ago at this point finding a home with front row. And if he's been content with how his career has been playing out that is all to come and I hope you'll tune in right here on the racing writers podcasts.
NASCAR Live - 2001 Daytona 500 winner - Michael McDowell
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Five is indeed michael mcdowell. Not everybody makes it to victory lane for fourteen years. I didn't and passages to be here. Now is so amazing. That's is brought to you by wheel. Engineering a global leader in the emergency warning industry dressed the to perform since nineteen fifty two by xfinity x. y. internet. That's more than just fast. Expanding proud premier partner of nascar and by blue emu. Maximum pain relief. The official pain relief cream of the motor racing network. Blue emu is family owned and manufactured here in america. It works fast. And you won't stay from the studio in concord north carolina. Here's your host mike bagley. Hello everybody welcome to another edition of nasa car. Live here on the motor racing network like bagley any of our crew with you for yet another get together after the sixty third running of the daytona five hundred and to reflect back. We're going to give you a nascar live backtrack from all the action. That made up the great american race. And we're also going to chat with the winner of the daytona. Five hundred michael mcdowell will join us on this week's show plus he wasn't the only winner this weekend. Austin syndrich went to victory lane and the nascar xfinity series. Ben rhodes went to victory lane in the nascar camping world truck series. We will chat with those two gentlemen as well. We'll have all the winners for you from speed weeks. Two thousand twenty one. We're also going to remember some of the drivers who earned their first cup series wins in the daytona five hundred plus look ahead to our return to the world center of racing for this weekend's action on the road course and we'll have a whole lot more for you as well but to get us started is ricky. He's here to catch us. Up with all the news. After a lot of on-track this past week and weekend at daytona. Kyle mike with the daytona. Five hundred win behind him michael mcdowell and his front row motorsports team look to the bigger picture. Now the playoffs mcdowell has never been a part of the sixteen driver post-season but the daytona five hundred win locked into the playoff field. A fact that he says won't change much with his team outside of being able to be more aggressive on the race track not a lot of change for us for the rest of the season as far as you know are after. And what we're gonna do. I think what will change is. We'll be able to be a bit more aggressive. And i think that we'll have a little bit more confidence in swag to hear more from the first time nascar cup series winner later in the show. All three of nascar's national series are back on track this weekend in daytona but on the three point six one mile fourteen turn road cores. The same course used last august and last tuesday night. In the busch clash. Chase elliott has won the last four points paying road course events including the race at the daytona road course last august and many of his competitors point to him as this weekend's early favorite elliott says. That isn't necessarily the case. Well i think it's an easy thing to say based on the past results. But i i've said it wants an i'll say it one hundred more times just because you're angered somewhere in the past doesn't mean you're going to come back and be that good again. So this is a evolving sport. Things change people improve People figure things out cars get better. Drivers get better the road course weekend in daytona begins this friday with the break best. Select one fifty nine presented by o'reilly auto parts for the nascar camping world truck series at seven pm eastern time here on m. r. n. In actor kevin. James will serve as the grand marshall for sunday's o. Reilly auto parts to fifty three nascar cup series race in daytona. James is the executive producer and stars in the new net. Sitcom the crew in says he's been leaning on one veteran nascar crew chief to help them develop the show about life in the nascar garage as a crew chief. It's been tony gibson. Who i based my name kevin. We gave him that. Because he's been such a great ally. He's been so helpful in helping me and he came on set and he would just call. Bs when he saw it. And he's this would never you know And knowing that is also a a show that's got so it's like he knew the exact line draw and be like this is what it would be like And he he's been teaching me so much about the aspects of all about assembling the team. And what you gotta do is a leader season. One of the crew is now available on net flicks. Mike kyle coming up. we'll revisit. This past weekend's great american race and later we will chat with the daytona. Five hundred champion michael mcdowell. Wieland would like to congratulate michael mcdowell and his number thirty four front row motorsports pit crew for the dramatic win at daytona international speedway in the wee hours of monday morning. They are the wheel pit crew. With a week mcdowell. Thank the entire team for making his first cup series win possible to get my first point that daytona. It's just it's unbelievable. i'm just so thankful for. Everybody just says allowed me to do it. It's you know it's not been an easy road. And and there's been lots of years where i was wondering. What the heck am i doing and why am i doing it and i always knew that if you just kept grinding that you know one day everything will line up. And then they'll go right and but as you get further into your now so i'm just thankful very thankful everybody made it possible. We'll in engineering. A global leader in the emergency warning industry trusted to perform since nineteen fifty two now back to your host mike bagley. Welcome back to nascar. Live the two thousand and twenty one nascar. Cup series season is underway and the sixty third running of the daytona. Five hundred was one to be remembered. Here's how it all sounded on the motor racing network with a brand new nascar ve backtracks. This is our super bowl for all these drivers. They are all jacked up the ready to go dollar in california. Now that i kinda by a little bit. I get in the car a lot. Easier out having a beer gut in half the car you know with. All the gers cramp lake. Aren't that then back to the ocean. Already forty cars come down to the line. They call it. The great american race and the green flag is in the air and we're running the sixty third annual daytona. Five hundred were crashed here and everybody have no vital. While believe will have no idea why we're pushing shoving part this early adult five hundred eric l. merola Running second behind him. Christopher bell on the bottom of the race track with like christopher got into the back at eric what what a best there. That's a hell of a job. That's that's a really good car for pushing their take care of your stop here behind the or wherever he goes through fitness backstretch in the corner. You stay right track with their cars everywhere over that now. We are getting word from nascar that we need to bring this race to a stop on pit road. We have lightning in the area. Got a lightning strike gonna bring you down pit road road. Close the bringing everything. Turbo lot of rain coming. The the driver's been waiting probably sitting in her motor homes. A lot of just kind of hanging out get ready for this. Particular moment are pretty crew. Came back on here right away. A walk into your reference again airfare. Stay out friday three two and one. Yeah it'd be. Aw trying to broke needed it. I guess i'll probably to be damaged. Car william byron has the rear bumper cover flapping in the breeze. He's going to be getting a black flag. This time by with the person doesn't need for the tail but they'll still audit they the posted on the left side tail on. So yes we can skip mondale queen. How get spun around. D looked like he made contact with the outside safer barrier. Caution flies on the speedway for the third time tonight. Buddy dyer blue born into one. I don't know the damn fox's out here entire blue considering over something when he threw it on my windshield. Now ryan will jump up there because hamlin kyle busch took the low line at a to everybody shifts to the outside. How get in line that we'll get some help from stenhouse. Statehouse will pass in three wide on the bottom falls out of the top ten at the field out at other shuffled out. Why don't we stop so bad. At playing races tiger towns their care denny hamlin will win stage number one feel track of product. Slow really really really. Pretty rare condition got a fire right. Rear gas fired right. We'll be ready to put that out. I make fire in the right rear cycle here. Do not cycle do not cycle three to four right here right here. Frank paddling prior to fire the big fire. You might to get out and leave floor at me. I'll be able to breathe position. Six seven and eight are chevrolets. And ross chastain austin dillon and chase elliott watching you. Here's kaz laskey trying to make the move on. The ghana lugano throws the block. Look elise down the back straight away just laskey life. Ski cars crash kazlauskas up in a ball of flame heavily. You'll get that. I felt outcome and breakfast for the win. Caution is on the speedway. We'll wait and see. Who was the race leader. When the caution flag came out over the winner of the sixty third running of the daytona. Five hundred is indeed michael mcdowell. They can go ahead and celebrate now. Fico was a very special moment. For michael mcdowell in the front row motorsports team will chat with the daytona hundred champion. Next and later. We'll sit down with this past weekend. Nascar xfinity series winner. Austin syndrich sir. Are you where you were going. Forty miles an hour. This is a residential area. Sure but i'm on my lawnmower. Wait am i getting a ticket. No i've just never seen anyone top nine miles an hour on one of those bad voice and mother attire lawn and thirty seconds cut into you. Well it did fuel up. It's nokia this morning at sonoko. We know to fuel peak performance. We've been doing it for american racing for over fifty years fuel your best. This is nascar. Live here's keselowski trying to make the move on the gun. I'll lugano throws the block. Llegado lease down the back straight away. Kazlauskas live penske cars crash. Kozlowski is up in a ball of flame up into the outside wall. Take kyle busch with him. Everybody now racing off the corner. Horrific crash on the final lap of the daytona. Five hundred. caution is all on the speedway. Caution is on the speedway. We'll wait and see. Who was the race leader. When the caution flag came out and we are now getting word from nascar the winner of the sixty third running of the daytona. Five hundred is indeed michael mcdowell. They can go ahead. And celebrate now it will be victory by mere inches mcdowell with the daytona five hundred now back to mike bagley. That's how it sounded in the we early morning. Hours of monday morning michael mcdowell going to victory lane and earning his first ever nascar cup series. Victory welcome back to nascar. Live indeed friends. Michael mcdowell is the winner of the two thousand and twenty one daytona. Five hundred michael's able to share some time with our dylan welsh to reflect on his career. Defining moment joined now by the winner of the twenty twenty one daytona. Five hundred that is michael mcdowell. also michael Have you slept at all. I guess that's probably the first question. I know you've been busy this morning but did you get any sleep last night. No i didn't You know by the time that got done with media and tech and and logan car in the hall or to to go over to the To the ticket office to the museum it was. It was five thirty in the morning so it wasn't worth getting just an hour sleep before the the media to our started so i just kinda started to Answer some texts and have some phone calls and yeah so tonight. I'll get hopefully a little chain sleep. Well i i want to. I want to. there's a lot to talk about. Obviously but i wanna start with something. That our own steve post asked in victory lane about you know you dream. Every driver dreams about winning a race like the daytona five hundred. And you've been very close. The last several years you're always upfront of these superspeedway races always in the hunt but to finally break through to finally have everything fall your way and win your first race on the biggest stage I mean was it was. It is exciting and and worth as you dreamed it would be. Oh absolutely i mean yeah. It's it's unbelievable. It's hard to hard to put it in the worst. You know just the emotion that you have in that moment Up just excitement. And just i mean you just overwhelmed and then for me. You know the few hours after that was just manages humbling it. Was you know emotional. Think about how many people and how many people you know. Sacrifice a lot for me to get to this point and you know all opportunities that i've had and and just you know you become very thankful and it's very humbling experience. Well and you know. I think back to your crash texas and you know you had to grind a lot to just get into a position you after that where you were in a solid stable ride and and now to have this all come together You know like it has i just. I can't imagine what that feels like to to have gone through what you've gone through just to stay in the sport and now to win the biggest race of all. I have to imagine that is an extremely rewarding. Feeling yeah absolutely. I think you journeys it you know even just your many years where to stay in the sport and do whatever you care you know whether that start pack series or whatever you have to do just staying at company You know paternity like this. So let's go back to the last few laps in know you can even specifically the last lap going down the backstretch. You're in a position to you. Know to make a move to try to pull out of line or or do something to to kind of control your own fate a little bit. Take us behind the wheel and your helmet. What was going through your head. What was the thought process as you as you came off a turn to and and kinda started to get set up to to make some sort of move my you know. My thoughts really was the the same as you know what i had gone into. The race was just to be in that top. Three or four coming to the white and and just push you know whoever i could in front of me Until you got off at turn four. Because that's you know i felt like in the years past. I've pulled out of line too soon or try to make my move to soon and so i was just committed to staying with that to car until until it was time and You know it it. It all just worked out perfectly and now kind of with with how nascar sets their lineups we get to go to the daytona road course next week. Which is You know you're a road course guy you run very well on the road courses and you're gonna get a chance to start up front and potentially go back to back here at daytona so How do you feel about your chances next week. Even on the road course or the with a good starting spot. Yeah that's cool yeah That's actually one of the things that that came up with my just as you're thinking about all the things and what it means to women as i told you arrested thirtieth next week we're going to be up front which is nice because you know. Ask you if You know just the way that it worked with the weighted You know point owners points but that we just never had an opportunity to start up front with our you know in their courses so we had to kind of dig ourselves out. So you know. We're excited about coming back here in in having a shot at it. Yeah absolutely and last thing you know. I know you're busy. But how will this. How will last night. Winning the daytona five hundred. How would that change your life moving forward. You know man. It's not gonna change my life. It's it's it's definitely gonna change. You know some of the peripheral things such great honor that comes with it but you know driving race cars is what you do. It's it's not who you are. It doesn't define. Yeah so you know my kids and my family and just you know your friends. They're not gonna look at you any different and And so you know it doesn't change your your your life or who you are but it definitely. i mean. It's a big deal. And it's a huge accomplishment and it means a lot for race team at guarantees us in the playoffs which you know helps us financially and help our partners and there's so much that that it does by winning a race that for sure it's going to change things but you know it doesn't change your your absolutely well. Well done. enjoy the accomplishment. Hope you're you're able to soak it all in. And and congratulations again. Hey thank you so much. Thank you dylan coming up. We'll speak with saturday night's nascar xfinity series winner syndrich and later. We'll visit with friday nights truck series winner. Bedrose says he'll stop by and join us. The chevy silverado trail boss is designed to stand out because when you have two inch lift. Goodyear dirt track tires an integrated development sauce last thing. You'll need a rope. The chevy silverado trail boss readied off road right from the factory. Find new roads at your local chevy dealer. This is nascar alive. Austin syndrich maintains the lead by car like peer comes brett. Mop it up the second five and harrison burton who has been shuffled in the bottom of the racetrack. Recall turn four garrison burden on the inside syndrich on the outside checkered flag is waving. Beer comes moffitt. He'll dive to the outside. It will not be enough. At the line austin syndrich is taking four back. Victory lane in daytona syndrich. Getting the win now. Back to mike bagley. That's how it sounded saturday evening. On the motor racing network austin syndrich opened up the two thousand and twenty one nascar xfinity series season defending his title with a win at the world. Center of racing are woody. Kane caught up with austin to look back on saturday nights win and his nascar cup series. Debut in the five hundred. Awesome cedric joins us. Now he drives the number twenty two ford mustangs for team penske and he started off defense of his explicity series championship with a win at daytona and ran the daytona five hundred. Still a big smile on your face. Often what a weekend as your head. Stop spitting you know. It's definitely a great way to start the year. Spending our guys over the off season too fast mustangs and you know. I don't think we've been at eight plus card. Some of these super speedways in the past. And i was actually kinda bummed out. One ball was right now. Because i wanted to showcase the the the games because we showed significant improvements in our single car speeding practice and obviously that showed the ratio. We control a lot of the race and were able to execute their that. The end on a degree checkered with a great push from. Aj and Yes start start off with a win. Winning a five four mustang. Even though you wanted some practice on no you couldn't have been too disappointed to start up front in that event but tell me if it went sort of like you expected or if it was completely the other way around. I know almost everybody who raised today told her. This weekend was in some kind of an overtime finish. Yeah i mean there is a lot of moments in that race today. I think i think for me heading into that weekend. Mindset surrounding it as the chase chasers in the field. You know chase chase briscoe. Ni- last year worked really well together on the super speedways being the fords and instill really in the last couple of races being able to control the race at some point and find each other so that was heading into the weekend. A a new challenge and working with rally herbs and in ryan see. You know we got together. We talked it out we. We tried to establish some sort of trust and Early early parts of the race. Where would to to work together on restarts in and be able to kind of set the groundwork for moving forward but but past that You know like said we a lot of speed and think that showed you know. I think that was the most times. Must spotter keyed up over the radio telling me that people wanted to work with. And and that tells you got fast racecar makes your life easier the driver when when you can showcase at speeds. I'm just really proud. Proud of my guys proud proud of them continuing to develop and the around my spider colin presley. i think. I went on a superspeedway and he works harder than anybody else. Man i mean he. He's one of those guys you put in the effort and he'll equal it so It's it's been fun to see that he was. He was so excited we. I called him after the race and and I heard i heard his voice crack a few times on the last lap. You know votes jokes and he was telling me that does not get fogging the last lap. He was breathing smart so anyway. I was really happy for him. He just probably even happy. That i was to win that thing but yeah a great way to start the year and hopefully keep them going and it took a little drama to get there but you make your first daytona five hundred as well and you ran well at times led a little bit but man at the end of that thing you got caught in that last big one looking at the slow motion replay and i can say this now because we know everybody was who was in it was okay but the only thing i could think was going through like one of those flame. Broiler burger things away. All the fire was around you and you even tweeted virus hot. I guess it is man. I mean i try not to zone smart when i say that. But it's hot like cow. Like i've never experienced something more real and powerful than that kind of a fire and honestly we're lucky that it was at the end of the race on low fuel. I mean bradley had probably two three laps. A fuel left or something like that at least given the stints. And that's what all came out of car and onto the track and onto my car so I feel very fortunate that the cars are safe because regardless of the fire which made it visually spectacular but that was a big impact. I i'd been a lot of money that we were on the on the data recorder for for that one. So i'm i'm feeling a little bit the news after but i'm fine so like i said very very fortunate. Nascar and penske builds safe race cars and ready to go again back to your your regular gig and the extended series defending champion. Now you had to the road course at daytona is. That's something now that you've kind of gotten the the daytona five hundred under your belt and done something you haven't done before now you're going to a place where it kinda feels like your favorite pair of shoes or something going back on. Because you're you're one of the best road racers in the series and you won their last year. Yeah obviously there's there's a difference between speedway racing. A lot of the other racetracks would go to this year. I mean you could say those comfort level of the road courses for me but there's new challenges every time i felt like daytona road course. Although we won the race i was. I was not very satisfied with with our we showed up with the car and Try and improve that so obviously we. We have a little bit to learn from the clash and and watching that race but overall i'm excited to see the packers we brought for for this weekend and hopefully can be no strong stronger than what we had. Last time. everyone's gonna be stepping up their game. You got remember the last time we race there. There is no practice or anything. No one had seen that racetrack. So it's definitely definitely different ballgame. I think heading into this weekend. Austin congratulations on a strong start to the season. Good luck this weekend and keep it up some extra there you go. That's often syndrich. Drives the number twenty two ford mustangs at team. Penske bank you coming up. We'll hear from friday nights nascar camping world truck series winner. Ben rhodes and later we look back at some of the drivers who earned their first nascar cup series win by way of winning the daytona. Five hundred this is nascar. Live moria roper. Leads via truck. What here comes ben. Rhodes here comes back craft and trying to lineup craft in nearly gets the outside wall behind corey roper wage. Here they come sparks. Flying trucks wrecking one of the sliding wide to the checkered flag. They come outside lane. Ben rhodes on the outside lane wins at daytona. Now back to mike bagley. That's how it sounded friday night. On the motor racing network. Ben rhodes winning a wild one at daytona kicking off the two thousand and twenty one nascar camping world truck series season. What he came sat down with band to look back on friday nights win. Ben rhodes is with us now. He drives the number ninety nine toyota tundras for sport racing and he won the season at daytona. And he's still got a huge smile on his face after doing all that but ben before we talk racing i gotta ask you. I saw some pictures from tore sport this week and it looked like the snow was passed the doors. Have you been to the shop. And they put you to work digging out sidewalks. So it's funny. You say that. I'm on my way up the door. Sport tonight Flying in detroit renting car driving through the snow tooth or sport it. It's been planes trains automobiles. I'm my sponsor bombarded as it's been lear jets trains automobiles since Since the way man it's been so crazy it's been absolute owen. Yeah but you wouldn't have any other way. I bet it's just been it's just been fantastic. And what a race. Yeah let's show. I didn't realize that it was as crazy as it was until afterwards i went march. Three plays like that wasn't insane race. So i knew up front like that that we had so many lead changes and it seemed like nobody keep the lead longer than like a lab. You know it was just back the back end. I thought that this was one of the most entertaining racists and recent history for the truck series. I honestly thought that the that the trucks were so stable this year with side skirts that it just made for some amazing racing. I mean back and forth. You couldn't hold onto the lead but then you could make heck of a run on the outside getting back again. It was just lots of commerce goers and it seems like in past years the issue has been. You could get to somebody but not necessarily around them. That didn't seem to be the case for you or any of the any of the guys. Now you you can make some crazy ron's and you can make it work. Well i mean roper. Caught me off guard going into turn one of the last lap pools downright for where did you come from. And i thought i had the inside line. I thought i was in the catbird seat and then Sure enough he he gets run me. I was upset for like half a second then. I realized wait a minute on second at daytona on the last lap. That's actually not a bad thing. So lost the lead little upset but then it worked out great. I had my tv behind me. Matt craft and he was pushing us pushing his boundaries. Push him up bardi tundra. We made it to the front but if it wasn't for him i don't know if gotta get the win. I gotta get him a huge club. You had some big wins in your career. You've won at your home track of kentucky. You've one at darlington but you said this was the biggest one of your career and obviously speaks of daytona is the biggest part of our sport. But how long have you dreamed of this moment. Because i read somewhere that you used to play daytona on video games when you were a kid. Oh yeah heck yeah. Who didn't right. I mean we're going around all these cart races and we'd be in the middle of indiana or out arkansas wherever racing cars and we you know me and my other buddies that were all competitors with at that age. Our ten years old nine years old and We go into their trailer. we'd be playing this daytona game against each other than we go out on and race cards against each other. It just brought back so many memories right so long ago. I've had this goal. In my mind that i wanted to race at daytona and wanted to get a win there and to know that you know we. We did it. That was i. Don't know it. Just it's it's almost like validation to right because there's been so many ups and downs in my career since since i came out canaan series and you know. Now we've we've got a few wins in the truck series. I've got a really steady team behind me now and it just it seems like things are going great and it was a little bit of allegation for the fact that hey i can win on superspeedway now like we know how to get it done. The thing is you could do everything right and still not get a superspeedway win. Anybody who's been in racing. We'll tell you that. Sure you've known that yourself but i'm curious about the way. This thing has all unfolded for you. Now because you've any anybody who's been in racing those this to you have some high highs and some lows. What have you learned about kind of keeping that even keel. And how will that help you going forward. Yeah i so. I think it really came to me about you. Know two thousand and nineteen started working with tj majors and he was coaching me on how to kind of just become a better big picture driver. Somebody that can see everything that's going on in the race and still see this whole season at the same time and Two years with him. And now i've got tj belt behind me. Coaching me and he you know he's a. I raced against them last year. He's a driver right so I've i've got some really good people behind me coach. Me and i didn't necessarily have that. I and i'll tell you it's made all the difference in my career and i think a little bit of age two. I've gotten older and slow down a little bit Just mentally just trying to take everything. And i thought like. I've got just a better outlook on racing as a whole and the experience helps a lot too right. I've been the trucks now for a while and at this point i feel like i know exactly what to expect when i go into each race and i set goals for myself on trade so i i go in there and i told myself exactly what i need to. I need to be here on each stage. And i don't need a pressure to be in this situation it. I've seen it now. Everything's coming a little bit easier to me. I guess all right well. Then congratulations on a strong talking to the season. Look forward to seeing you at daytona. This week and i know you'll be chomping at the bit to get back at it when you've got that little mobile for vegas congrats and thanks for your time man. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. That's been roads. He drives the number ninety. Nine toyota tundra for fourth raising. Thank you what he coming up on this car live. We'll take a look back at some of the drivers whose first daytona five hundred win. Were also their first ever nascar cup series win and later we'll preview this weekend's cup series race sunday daytona road course. Nascar live is brought to you. By blue emu. Maximum pain relief. The official pain relief cream of the motor racing network. Blue emu is family owned and manufactured here in america. It works fast. And you won't stink now back to mike bagley. Welcome back to nascar live monday. Mornings win for michael mcdowell wasn't only special because it was the daytona five hundred it's important was also stated. By the fact that michael mcdowell had never ever won in the nascar cup series. Until that moment michael mcdowell is not the only winner in cup series history to earn his first win in the five hundred and his cup series win simultaneously. We take a close look at some of the drivers who make up. This exclusive club. The caution flag flew for a massive last lap crash. Michael mcdowell scored his first nascar cup series. Win in last sunday's daytona five hundred. Every driver dreams of winning the great american race but rarely. Is it a driver's first. Career victory in fact mcdowell became only the eighth driver carl edwards so the bottom. He's got drafting help. He's up to four. He's up to third comes. Carl edwards says pain leads to three. Gotta give here comes carl edwards. He's got momentum. David gilliland giving shelter the thought of the body now. Trevor bayne will crossovers time off for river vein playing defense. He's out in brought at age twenty. He's gonna win the fifty third daytona five hundred trevor. Bayne gets the win for the wood brothers and their dancing on pit road alec. They are in kate. Leonard would one. Okay here's of nascar racing. He's got to run out and celebrate. Donnie wing goes down here so far down here all of the four family on top with the pit box and high fives and more importantly there are tears around. Mr would congratulations. You're going back. Related daytona has authorized the gala talented a decade ago twenty year old trevor. Bayne took the wood brothers back to victory lane for the first time in ten years the excitement and disbelief in baynes voice readily apparent in victory. Lane and saying man. God is distant so good us this whole week and You know to be in this situation to be able to work with the whip brothers in that famous twenty one car. I mean it's it's insane and it's right back where it belongs in victory lane You know pearson said earlier. I hope you can live up to the saying. Hopefully we're showing them. We can here. Because i want to be in a long time to come. In two thousand one michael waltrip claimed his first career win the daytona. Five hundred unfortunately. It happened on one of the most tragic days in nascar history as dale earnhardt lost his life in the final. Turn walter and teammate. Dale earnhardt jr. finished one to that day waltrip celebrated after the race. Not knowing how serious the situation was well. It's just unbelievable junior. That was budweiser. They're hundred and i would be over four sixty three but were dell junior man. He he dreamed he won the daytona five hundred and he did. I just got to be the one that was in victory lane. I cannot believe it. it's the great feeling. Let me ask you a question. Though is one for four six to three really that much better than before i mean the daytona five hundred bethel i know i won the daytona. Five hundred. walter would get a chance to celebrate properly after winning the daytona five hundred again just two years later. Urban dependable down low. It tightens up big at one. Carling bala half a car. Length is a great software for surly. Marlin dashes back to the checkered flag. Told a five ondrej. Darlings got a car. Lay the half trying to put a dream behind. He will quit his first cup race. He tried since nineteen seventy six at sterling marlin has won the daytona five hundred his first winston cup victory on the celebration will be nonstop on the mortgage the core team sterling marlin hoisted the harley j earl trophy in victory lane in nineteen ninety four his first career victory for years earlier derrick pope was crowned daytona five hundred champion feeding dale earnhardt senior in nineteen ninety. Derek called down to the inside terry. The body second guess. Dale earnhardt slides back into the fourth position off the corner. It's derrick pope put aircraft career. He looks to the inside. Direct cope covers the spot. Earnhardt's not a factor. Here co pulled off the challenge of pompey derek. Web's the daytona five hundred in a remarkable upset. You're the world's center of racial but nineteen ninety daytona five hundred goes to derrick pope of spanaway washington and there is a stunned silence mixed with cheers for the young driver washington. Pete hamilton joined the list. In nineteen seventy. While mario andretti won the nineteen sixty seven. Daytona five hundred. His only win in the cup series running. The caution flag is out right now and the caution white out together. This is the last lap the cautious alto to all intents and purposes after way. It'll end up with mareo to winter. His share of the speedway twenty two thousand five hundred dollars and he will. Also get a sizable amount of money and in Accessory money as well the first driver to score his first win the daytona five hundred tiny lund back in nineteen sixty three. They told us a place where anything can happen. And michael mcdowell proved driving victory lane and adding his name to an exclusive list in mass car. Oh what a perfect time for it to be your first coming up. It's time for this week in nascar history and we look ahead to this weekend's cup series race on the daytona road course. Today's broadcast is brought to you. By blue emu. Maximum pain relief. The official pain relief cream of the motor racing network vis is nascar. Live now back to mike bagley. Welcome back to nascar alive before we head for the exits that time again this week in nascar history. Suzy armstrong is back. Zee half for us. Thanks mike let's kick it back five decades to nineteen seventy-one welsh crooner. Dave edmunds was number. One in the uk number foreign the us with. I hear you knocking president. Richard nixon was plotting a dubious recording session of his own in the oval office. Eighty five million viewers tuned into watch the ruler of the silver screen. Charlton heston make television history in a five hour. Cbs presentation of the epic drama. Ben hur and the king of stock car racing was grappling for a third daytona. Five hundred crown at the world said are racing swept up into the third grove. What good the number. Four liquor pentagon lincoln mkx whack down for on twenty thousand dollars for his own pat. North carolina have one but they caught a five hundred for the third time. Nineteen eighty-eight the late. Robin williams won the battle of the box office with the hit comedy. Good morning vietnam in excess found out how the other half lives as the australian rock band. Continue to rake in the cd sales with devil inside cake. Knee and lacey. Jake and the fatman and hunter were america's prime time tv favorites and the late. Davey allison and father bobby were the darlings of daytona bump drafting to the line in the thirtieth edition of the great american race. Bobby allison your leader. There's davey allison to the bottom of the racetrack. Baby allison tries inside one last. Try for davey allison. But he asked tuck back in line just behind his dad who was twice winner of the daytona five hundred. Bobby allison windsor for the first time in his career. Two thousand ten a hollywood who's who cast paraded through the critically panned yet commercially successful. Gary marshall romantic comedy. Valentine's day jason aldean was wide open with the number one country. Song the truth and jamie mcmurray. Whoa spinning no lies. When he boasted of a fast hot rod and pre-race beating dale earnhardt junior to the line in the fifty second running of the daytona. Five hundred own on just one part. Their crushing fucking fail four for the final straw. The mcmurray sees dale earnhardt. Jr. behind coming down to the line to decide the daytona five hundred mcmurray. We'll get it this first. Time out. Earnhardt ganassi racing and he will win the fifty second running of the daytona five hundred and those are just some of the events from this week in nascar history thank you says either nascar season is underway and it continues this weekend again in daytona this time at the daytona road. Course we take a look at what should be exciting. During this weekend's cup series brace goes in the air and we're racing at the first time in history for the nascar cup series final time through thirteen and fourteen hamlin is. They're all over the back end up. Chase elliott it's gonna be a drag race chase elliott by a half a car lake denny. Hamlin right there will not be enough across the line in chase elliott. His scored the win and the goaling to thirty five on the daytona road. Course chase elliott career win. Number eight just Just such a privilege to be here. I think first and foremost and i don't. I don't take that for granted This is a great opportunity for me. I mean to be able to drive race cars for a living and you know to reflect on the history and what has built this place is is is very special so I don't feel like i'm anywhere near the history books but Certainly striving to be there and and everyone we can be a part of the partisan great. Thanks coming to the checkered flag in. It is not over yet. Ryan blaney by just a car link over chase elliott back to the chicane for the final time. This will decide at their side. By side elliott. To the inside of blade they make contact and around goes ri- chase elliott will get away. Kyle busch now the inside. It's a drag race back to the checkered flag in the winner will be kyle busch. Who got by chase elliott after he made contact with ryan blaney and kyle busch has scored the win four. Stolen the win here tonight under the light. Yeah that was definitely the focus on this race. It's like a test session. It's our practice. You know so Definitely i feel like we've got a strong car. I think we got a strong program balance here. But there's still some things that could be a little bit better You know the nine was definitely beating me on the brakes getting into the turns and Just being able to outbreak me. And i just didn't quite have enough for that. I don't know that we can express what we're seeing here. It's just been lawless for the driver of the number nine chevrolet the different in the summer as being here you know breaking it felt like it was was tougher without the big spoiler on back and to me to the infield section just so slick i. I don't know if that's look in the summer maybe walls but There's not a lot of grip at all so yeah. I think we could be a lot better for race next week. Joey lagana unchallenged in third about twenty car lengths back for one to package way. Better way better able to stay behind. Cars bars better You know. I think that was definitely a gain. The you know the draft on the straightaway wasn't any less. I can tell you that much which is kind of surprising. Spoiler puts a bigger hall mayor and the draft but it really affected the draft much at all. So i think that's kinda interesting Curbing got something If i felt like dirt grayson still left there. So does the mudbath back there. That's that's kind of a plug covergirl. In the first place twenty one was the enemy and what ends up happening is is is your nose detail tail on the car in front of you and you can't see the curves to your right right. Imagine being raped behind somebody. You can't see where those curbs are just physically can't see so you end up going shorter and shorter right You know to try to want to get your angle better to find some vision and you do that and you go through the mud and then kicks on the race track of and you hit the exit one because you you're the one in the middle of it so they got to do something to clean that up. I don't know what the answer is completely probably putting some some yellow curbs that you see the final chicane probably somewhere in there to try to stop that help ryan blaney s there. He pulls up drivers right. Let's head for the for the horseshoe hit a side by side for the lead course program is getting better. I think we we need to improve our late race or late. Run speed our cars and hang on better but other than that really really proud of the whole group. We've we've made huge gains. Like i said i got a ways to go but it was a nice step in the right direction to build. Notes for weeks can't wait to get back to daytona. It'll be the o'reilly auto parts two fifty three and you'll be able to hear it here on the motor racing network. That's all the time we have for you for this week. Folks congratulations to michael mcdowell austin syndrich and ben rhodes we thank them for joining us. Also we thank you as well for stopping by and for the rest of the crew. I'm mike bagley. We'll chat with the again next week right here on. Nascar live until then so long everybody. Nascar live is a production of the motor racing network with studios in concord north carolina and was brought to you by blue emu. Maximum pain relief. The official pain relief cream of the motor racing network. Blue emu is family owned and manufactured here america. It works fast. 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Ep. 117 | Michael McDowell
"Hey everyone welcome to the Ray Suharto's podcast. I'm your host Kelly Crandall. On today's show is Michael McDowell of front row motorsports. Our conversation didn't really have one set direction. We covered a few different areas. And I did that on purpose to tell you the truth. Michael has always been someone I've enjoyed chatting with. He's engaging entertaining has a diverse racing background. He's made a lot of starts now in the Cup series over the last thirteen years and he's kind of experienced a little bit of everything so for this conversation. I wanted to ask a few questions that I've thought about for quite a while. Such as how does he feel about his place in the sport? Somebody who has a long tenure here but knows that when he goes out cleats every week a chance to win is not always going to be there so I appreciate it his honest answer on that we also discuss virtual learning Michael. Of course being a father We look back on how the season started for his number thirty four team and even dig into I racing of course at the big thing over this hiatus and that includes a fun story on how front row has guys over. There had to make him a sim rig so he could participate in the pro invitational series. That you've been watching the last couple of weeks on Fox fun conversation. I hope you enjoy it. Here is Michael McDowell on the racing writers podcast over there in the McDowell household. How are you spending your time now? Yeah we're good I mean it's it's challenges the probably the the homeschooling the schooling virtual schooling. Whatever you WANNA call it is probably the hardest just because we have three kids that are actively doing it from eighteen. Whatever you WANNA call in. They have eating conferencing and they have you know all these different things going on. And so there's a lot of noise and there's a lot of things happening am all at once. That part's figures. Challenging was just through all the school union coming to organize all the conferences and virtual chance and setting up. I feel like an IT person here lately you sound everybody connected and getting everything functioning and being able to turn in assignments and obviously it's a cross us to for the rules well because this is the first time they've had to do it so we've been lots of hiccups in lots of trying patient times. I it's funny you bring that up because I have a much younger sister who is also doing the virtual learnings. I was GONNA ask just kind of how that's gotta be so weird for everybody. I can't imagine it's one of those things where it's like. Oh parents are suddenly remembering how much they don't know it's been a process for sure. Well again I appreciate you taking the time. I'm sure that the first four races at this point probably feel like they were a year ago. Probably feels like it was many many moons ago. Yeah definitely I mean. Even though it's only been a couple weeks feel feels like it's in a really long time. Does anything stand out from those four races? Michael was we look back real quick as we look back at Daytona. Fontana Phoenix. Does anything. Stand out from your team. You guys have going on over at front row kind of how you started the season. I think that you know. Probably the thing. That steamboat racing. Always your last one right. You know. It's one that matters. So Phoenix was good as far as building and build some confidence and get back on track and so we were excited about just trying to create that momentum and and keep the moment going that we have. Daytona was okay. Went fine got a decent result but not the result we wanted and then Vegas. We had a mechanical failure in kind of all starting to spiral a little bit downhill and then being able to have a little bit of a steady nice round. Get a good finish and kind of build off of that so here we we were ready to land and silent about it and obviously just like everybody. We're adjusting to our new normal now phoenix. Of course there was a lot of excitement over what was old is new again when it comes to the package. How did that feel from your perspective kind of going back to something that was similar to what we had a few years ago in two thousand eighteen yeah? I thought the racing was getting. I thought the Taller fof was in. There was more side-by-side racing and I thought that the you know the truck did a good job with the PJ one and felt like it had its place and it worked well and thought the racing trout kilos was pretty good. We had a little baby issue early on in fights crackle way back to get back on the left and the lucky dog spot and we were able to do that. Where in the past him? You just get stuck behind people and you couldn't pass and you could really Make moves and we were able to come back to room. Get Lucky dog in against you'll get back on task cars at the end so there is more positive more opportunity for sure definitely seemed like it was a good direction for our the sport to go as they tried to kind of reevaluate the short tracks and the road courses. Do you think that they kind of hit on it and and went in a direction? Yeah absolutely you don't think the proof is in you just the race that we had at Phoenix and obviously we'll have more to kind of compare and judge off but yeah I mean I'm very confident. This is the right direction for both. Of course Jansher retracts. It definitely will produce a better show than what we had at. Those places like front row obviously has a little bit of a different. Look this year with John. Hunter now being full-time and the truck program with todd both those guys are young near the veteran. Now of the program. Does that seem? We're to you. Do you like being in that position to be able to help the younger drivers if they come to you. You know part of my kind of my racing history and background was always been intervening coaching. And and that's kind of how I was able to get through the first few levels of motorsports early on so that's kind of ingrained in me working at the ball and run school as an instructor and then helping guys that were younger than me. Come up through the different series so that part is fun. I enjoy it. You know right now. I'm not doing a whole lot is probably the reverse. It's the young is trying to teach me how I race and so yeah I'm on the opposite side of experience right now. Yeah before we're done talking. I'm definitely wanted to throw some stuff your way in general though when when you hear veteran when people consider you like me consider you a veteran when you think about how you've made starts in the cup series for the past thirteen years I mean. Does that stand out. Does that feel weird? Does it feel like you've been around that long Yes and no so definitely definitely have been around that long and there's moments that feel like that but you know a lot of those. I caught four or five. Years was starting parts just trying to hang on for dear life outdoing forces at Containing for you really pointing putting in full seasons swatted. Those were per shells. Sydell feel like the last five years or maybe it's been more. Maybe it's been six whenever I went full time with L. Afar since it's felt more like you know real and full-time experience but all those races before that still played a part in that you're able to learn a lot and and probably more than anything just mental innocent work that game. You're just putting a lot into it. Truly make the most of every moment knowing that for a long time. I didn't even have a shot at those. So at this point as we're talking with racing on hiatus your number is kind of a nice Round full number. It's three hundred and twenty five in the Cup series. Yeah what would you say has been your biggest accomplishment or maybe your best highlight so far in the cup series. I mean my island. Having three run on twenty-five START I mean I hate to say that but if you if you could zoom out and look at my whole journey it's been extremely difficult one to stay in the sport and so to me are the biggest accomplishment in regards to the fact that I'm still here and still competing and I'm in a better situation now than I've ever been. It's continuing got better and better better at aren't so that part is rewarding. Just knowing that there's a lot of those years and consular it was truly a grind just to get to the racetrack can still be here. Still have an opportunity and be competitive. Probably the the thing that's most rewarding to me but regards to results. I think they is probably you know last year haven't offering their consistently earning top in Benson highlights. Ernie drivers are always chasing something right. You're always chasing the next race. The you know the next result next accomplishment you know when it comes to that Michael. Are you somebody that even though you're constantly trying to succeed and accomplish something in this sport do you have to remind yourself at all to enjoy what you're doing or is that not a problem for you? Is it just natural that you know you love what you do you get to do this or do you? Sometimes you have to slow yourself down and take again the effort in the results in what's going on on the racetrack away and just say hey. I'm still getting to do this. Balance is hard. I I think early on start rookie year. Micro-entrepreneurs did not enjoy it at all the experience and the opportunity. I was just so overwhelmed with the pressure in trying to get results and not getting results in just I missed all the you know the opportunities to take in how cool it is to raise at the brick yard for the first time or your race underlines of Bristle for the first time that's cool moments that you not. Everybody has the opportunity to do it so early on. I missed it and now feel like I enjoy the moment more and enjoy the opportunities more always look forward to distract like when Thursday rose ran on on on on. You know that I get the deal. It's a new leak in a fresh start and for me like you talked about. There's always a goal in the goal is for me is to win race. I mean it's Super Plain and simple is yet to be in. This series is long and has many racist. That has you know for me. It's very important to win race and CEO knowing that saw an opportunity for us every weekend. But it's always there you know you just never know is. Um keep the motivation there and then the other part about NASCAR that I love is if it's not this week it's next week if it's not the next week hits the following weekend so you just keep going keep growing And he keeps having a fresh early new opportunity that every week. You acknowledge that winning a race is not something for front row. That will come around every weekend. Are you comfortable with your place in the sport in that regard to where you can still go out you get results for what your team in this case front row can do? You're not a guy that many people would say. Rex racecars or gets himself in trouble. Are you comfortable being that guy being able to deliver for a front row or do the what ifs? Come up sometimes where you think. Well what if I ever had an opportunity to get into a car like a gibs or a Hendrick or a penske no? I'm very comfortable in front real. I'm not comfortable with our results. We're all pushing hard to get. Put ourselves position where we can appoint opportunities that winning and running top fifteen and I think on that note to is with it on a good direction with Got Better and better each year and we know the you know the the six or seven races that we have every year to have a chance at winning in China. Semis a lesson. You always want to win races. You always wanted to try to challenge for championships. I mean as you don't think about it and when you see guys like Alex Bowman and and Deon probably one or two more that were in a very similar situation by men are having success. Actually is rewarding. It's it's it's fun to see them have success because it wasn't that long ago that Alex Bowman was getting fired from Tommy Baldwin racing and being replaced a Regan Smith now winning races eighty eight and you know Matt d driver on divine and whatever he could get in and just trying to make the most of tough situation and now he's in a gray seed has not prepaid it when races and running game so to me. It's I I enjoy being front row. I want to help him win races. I want to help grow it bill. I'm thankful for the opportunity so too far off or really do that for me. I wish this or that I destroy the night most of the situation. My confidence is also high knowing where those guns were out and what they're doing you always think like you put me in that opportunity and I'd be able to win and you always have that belief it's good to see other guys actually proving this is your third year Michael With front row. What has made it easier to settle in with them. Make a home there with Bob Jenkins and everybody I think two things one is. Bob And I had a relationship prior to museum for him. You know there's I did one race for him in the past that walk INS Gleam in two thousand. I don't know you'd have to look it up. Maybe thirteen or fourteen eighty even earlier. I don't know early on and got the test and do some things and it was fun and we ran well and didn't get a good result at a part failure but Since that point on stay closed when we talk racetrack and you just talked over the years and so I had a pretty friendly relationship with Bob. Prior driving for him. So I'm part was easy an dame Reagan being their same thing David. I've been friends for years and you know away from the racetrack. And so him being there it kind of an easy transition for me because I kept feed run quickly with people and what's happening and he did us down how things work in. But you know for the in that first year with MWR always been with smaller teams. And so I feel very comfortable in those settings. I liked being shot on my talk to the guys. I like being able to actually know all the guys I mean. It's hard when you have a you know three four five hundred Eagle so. I've always been sort of comfortable on those settings and feel like it's not as corporate and you can be yourself and say. Oh yes you know front row has been great for me and and you know I think right now you know. There's a lot changing in our sport even as we're not racing here of whether or not this new cars can come when it's going to come all of those things that we were about so a lot of unknowns for all of us and hopefully we can weather. The storm as a team was group in a UP. Some highlights this year and in China to keep building momentum. Going back to looking at things from a bigger picture. The sport overall again mentioning. How long you've been doing this when it comes to offering feedback. You mentioned things like the new car in the way that the the direction the sport is going when drivers are offering feedback or NASCAR comes to drivers and Wants to kind of gather. What the mood of the Garages Are you? Somebody that The longer you've been in the sport you have found yourself you know. Speaking and ask are offering feedback. Are you somebody? That's willing to let them know what you think or do you keep more to yourself and just kinda watch to see what they do. Well I mean I'm fairly in engaged and so we've always been that way for me. I think that I like being a part of it but I also feel like these. Decisions are really important because it affects the overall health of the sport and I feel like I have a pretty good perspective because of where I'm at in the sport of not being I've been on the bottom. I've seen what it looks like at the very top. In the way that those teams operate from a distance or from close in right now I would say for us. I mean that kind of a medium sized team and two car operation. We're not run out of small team binding. And so I think I have a pretty good perspective of of reality of what it looks from both perspectives of of the sport or from all perspectives of it. So I always try to put it in my input but I also know that the more popular drivers are GonNa have a larger way on things like that But I'm also pretty engaged with all that you know making sure that those guys understand that. Hey we get you want this for you and your group but this time to fix the other half of the field young and so I always try to make sure that there's a little bit about about. Do you think. Overall the sport is good about something like that. I've heard that a few times when you talk to guys on the other side of the garage so to speak. Are you start going further down the leaderboard? You know they say the same things you know. Sometimes people need to remember that we have to look at not. Just what's good for the bigger guys? Or what their opinion is. But you have to remember the guys that are doing it differently. Do you like Nascar better over the years at understanding and listening to those folks absolutely. I think it's changed tremendously. Yeah I think just the dialogue in general is way more open now than it's ever been and that's been a process that's happened over the last four or five years and you know some of it was forced early on West. Rta and some of those things that kind of squash month insane and driver councils and all that stuff. But I feel like now. It's more of a working relationship. Then it's ever band and there's a lot of communication happens and it's pretty good on all those fronts and yeah. I think that you know when I first got there is kind of like. Hey you don't talk and don't say anything was the information that I got now. It's different more lot more dialogue happening for sure. Yeah one more thing before switched some. Ira Sing Talk. Because I'm very curious. Get your thoughts on that is I. Wanted to ask kind of another broad question. You of course have done open-wheel Grand Dam Arca a little bit of everything in Nascar. What is your favorite Carter? Dr Or maybe you're the fate of one of your most favorite races that you've gotten to compete in. Yeah I would say in two thousand five. I got to do a few champ car. Indycar races and Yeah do those cars and in that time in that era. Were just awesome you. They were fire breathing. Dragons young close to a thousand horsepower and turn with charged and no track. Trolling Electron IX. That goes has ship but it wasn't a paddle. And so yeah. So those were the purest fastest coolest thing I've ever driven for sure and I guess a couple of race in Australia. Surfers Paradise and kind of a fun fact He. I've made my gave you the same weekend that that will power. Willpower had a pretty successful after that. I think I'd beat You Buy yes. We just do that those couple of weeks that I got to do. The INDYCAR deals a lot of fun. I raised Mexico. City in Indycar in a prototype are one the prototype operation than randy which was a cool weekend. So that's probably long memories and appear driving aspect of an indycar without much. Power was a lot of fun. Fire breathing dragons. I believe that's unique all right so let me get your thoughts here on some. Ira sing stuff. I know you've kind of been thrust into the fire as I'm sure many others right now that this has come up. Did you have any experience before like had you ever run? I racing before. Yes Sir I have and I. I wouldn't say I have a lot of experience but I have a decent amount. It was a long time ago so when I first got into Nascar you know being a you know road race open-wheel Sports Car Guy. I didn't know any of the tracks. Didn't know ovals at all I hadn't been to any short-track hadn't done any of that so I got into. You know just whatever we want to call it. Online racing virtual racing and there is I racing came on the scene maybe maybe a year or two after I I started but I you know so I had a lot of time. That was before kids and everything else I had to set up at my house and I would play at five or six hours a day but that was twelve years ago right so A law has changed since then and obviously Irene since a tremendous job I answer super impressed with the fact that they have on vehicles in your son people on a really great job with it boom it. You know. It's something that is not easy to get the speed really quickly and the level that were turned to against the guys. We're trying to do with say yes. So it's definitely been a challenge in you know it's a little bit of a mix like. I'm excited that I have something to do and Cerez and I'm excited that we get some exposure for sponsors and our sport and keeping Santa Getting all. I think it's really good stuff. But the other side of it is is a tremendous time commitment to be good at it and people talk about well the level playing field and you everybody has the same color in one hundred percent true but at the same time the guys that are successful right now the guys that have like thousands of races and enduring it consistently for love or secure. So there's these little nuances to it that make it a challenge. Just like him. It'd be a challenge if you're were a virtual racer in the Ashley had to go unload at Bristol for the first time and drive a real car so it's definitely something to put a lot of time to which allergy to do away from it does have a family her long things happening. You have a lot of commitments as a driver already phone shop and climb out for interview Ian Sponsorship Obligations To. He'll keep playing for four or five hours. Be really responsible were now. It's easier to do because we're stuck here. The sponsor aspect is really really interesting because especially with those races being picked up by Fox. It still away for the sport and for the sponsors to get exposure and I think was really unique is At front row you guys have been able to bring on sponsors and I believe if my understanding is correct. You're actually bringing on a sponsor for Bristol as we talk this weekend. The Bristol race is that correct well so think that it is unique in. We've had love's travel stops the car who these folks two weeks. Obviously there are private sponsors majority of the season when you wanted to make sure that we could give them as much as exposures can't especially with Hanging anything going on the release fat but only been working on Schuch Lewis with Celsius over the last few months in something that hopefully will turn out just to virtual awesome but a real sponsor which were working really close later date but says exciting. New Boys Bristol into yet suggest during a news new sponsor into the sport and to have a survey more than anything. It's just it's a great starting point. It's an opportunity for the And be able to get exposure and help build their brand built the product using the teen years. And so it's something. I've really worked hard on because of such a big supporter. What they're already doing it healthy lifestyle just living fit and take care of yourself in having energy and that focus so to really good brand for us to be partnered with and we're excited to you. The car this weekend at Bristol super excited that I've locked into the race. He's to real tough on the qualifying. Yeah well hopefully will continue to grow this relationship and partnership poured a few more things for you. Michael one of the things again that stood out with this whole. Ira Sing thing. Is You posted on twitter? That front row actually made you your own rig right because you weren't able to get one. How did the how did that go? What goes into making a rig. Look yeah a lot of work. Yes Obliquely the whole story. So you know the the team. Coming up Auditing foes Cosette. Like this happen. He needed the police. I'm like yeah sure looked of familiar. Regan will be really go grab. It wasn't that easy. We borrow David yellows on rig the first week and I just went for his shall at his shop sewing basically got zero practice year. Just because of the fact that they're shoplift shutdown just like At the time it wasn't mandatory but they were already shut down and so I had to have somebody come. Let me in you know. Do all those things and I had to have somebody babysitting me the whole time. So it was you know. I just didn't get a lot of practice in so my cave. You want me to suck this. I'm going to need to like be able to practice and So I started calling all the manufacturers that make us different rigs but we were two weeks behind. Because you know we we just behind instead of people that already dot up all their inventory. How the Larson's home? The everybody in their brother had bought out everybody systems and so. I couldn't really find anything could find anything. Turn key race engineer at front road. He had already ordered some pedals wheels for himself and he had a computer at his house. And he's like well just dinner. Sow Sledge's welded chassis. And we'll see we'll just do it ourselves and All easier said than done but yeah the front row is my my thirty four crew. Did build a chassis and We got everything set up and right before everything got shut down. We were able to get to my house and finished building a house worth realign the glitches and things like that but by Friday of last week I had one set of her house and was able to practice a little bit more and we ran. Texas stood in. Now that I've had more time hopefully run better bristol than I did it Texas so but yeah really thankful that they're able to do that and one of my house mall shut up and so however long. I'm stuck here I'll be able to drive another funny thing that you tweeted was when it came to Texas. You said well if I flip virtually it won't hurt and I appreciate it the humor in that but it made me think. Obviously that was a moment. Many people will always remember. Is it something that fans still ask you about? Oh yeah all the time. Yeah I mean it's for sure it's something that fans remember and Yeah it's just one of those moments that I think that you know I certainly won't forget and and most people that watch during that time or were there don't and you know it doesn't bother me either. It's not like there's like two sides of it is one is it doesn't make. It's not embarrassing for you know. It's not something that I'm like. I don't WanNa talk about because if you raise long enough you're gonNA crash in a normal. You don't do it by yourself but it happens and the other side of it is that you know to me to be able to walk away from it and to still be here whatever. It is thirteen years racing. doesn't define my career either right like if I'd be everybody's highlight but I lost thirteen years after that off of being able to do my job well and get the most out of whatever situation I've been in so doesn't like haunt me or or make me feel embarrassed about it or or I don't WanNa talk about it right. Yeah it's good. You just take it in stride right. Yeah Yeah all right Michael. Let me get you out of here. One last question circling back around to our real racing when we get back on track whenever that may be do you know when I don't I wish I did. In my optimism. Optimism balloon has been popped really. Yeah so when we get back to racing when you go from competing for a couple of weeks competing for a month and then you have an unexpected hiatus. Do you think you'll have like some rust to knock off or will it just be like kind of coming out of the off season? What what do you expect? The feeling will be like when we go back racing after an unexpected and an undetermined amount of time. Unlike where when you have an off weekend or you have off season. You know you can prepare you know when you're going to be racing again. How different will it be to jump back in a car after something like this? Well I want to answer that question. Nearly so our sport definitely has a lot of confidence in him as a big equation and that happens throughout the season. Good race last. Wants to change all those all those things get better salts. Rust Call Rust. I think that we've lost along with them. That feel that you want to build up on those things asked Palestine and go into the off season and you start fresh. But I don't think you'll be rusty. I mean we we go the you know the entire off season and are able to to turn on the light switch and go so. I don't feel like it will be a lot of just getting the skewed that there's a lot of CEO and just not just communication and just flow of practice and everybody will have to work through that again. You know but yeah yeah same for everybody and so we'll see. Who Does the best? It's GONNA be interesting isn't it? We're all going to be Ready to go back racing and it's just going to be interesting when we finally get to do it. Absolutely well Michael. I appreciate the time today. I've enjoyed our chat and good luck with the virtual learning and I hope everybody stays station. Thank you all right as I wrap up this episode. 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"This is the final weekly suturing. The latest NASCAR racing news driver interviews rate freeview opinions discussion rumors and more now here's Carrie Murphy until we Christie just coupling is talking raising that's a pretty good run for him especially with everything that's been going on here lately yeah but he's kind of played ace or whatever it is now tapered spacer ace and hey there was a race at Talladega last weekend and was there how about wild is that a good good term leads Bob Right of course without the travel right yes somehow you still get it done though that's true I think that really should probably so are you ready to talk from Nascar I mean I wasn't ready to talk about anything else yeah man I mean let's do it I mean we've been knocking out of the park lately we didn't even mentioned last week. Kyle Larson won you know we got onto a tangent and a and a bunch of other topics and yeah we completely spaced yeah I think we the the applauded okay here we go nice and smattering of applause applause there you go you gotTa talk about it Oh my gosh they they didn't talk about it I'm never listening to this show again oh please do please do toby Christie Toby Christie Dot Com. I don't know about that I think people like Bob Papa Chris would probably have a pretty good claim to that but I'll take it that's cool all right others it also went downhill but for some turned out okay yeah the survivors I guess you could call it the ones that made it to the end which yes edit either I can't I can't explain it I usually don't like anybody I know and usually nobody likes you right so I don't understand so just he's the one guy right our coast where the show is totally Christie Nascar editor from the final DOT com social media director from all things at the final lap and his own website probably the hardest working man in Nascar News it was so good they had to stretch out over two days they did that's true the rain took over after Stage one William Byron one that thing and then it went downhill from there for him it went downhill for a lot of it look at this top ten list we're going to mention here in a minute it's say Pretty Wild Top ten these are your people these people right here these are the folks that I look for when everybody else is skimming the uh-huh so ninth isn't very good now and so just to kind of button things up that's the third top ten finish the season for tiger and by the way how do you get those stats so fast well I'm awesome he's scored top ten tone the five hundred and the July Daytona race and now Talladega in the fall and Chase Elliott somehow didn't Iraq at one point yeah he anyway Justin longtime friend of the show is back on the program once again today any tall nice at length yeah you guys usually do and it's usually pretty good commerce hello that would be you I care don't even recognize the name why Ricky stenhouse junior is in the news and he's also ninth there you go Asian for whatever reason I guess he feels like you're pretty cool guy I don't get it but well yeah I mean yeah I I I think that's it we click for whatever reason I don't understand I don't underst- are your peeps yeah definitely definitely so let's let's start with ty dillon there's one right there right there at number ten and I believe isn't that like his second top ten of the season on purpose just to to rip our Buddy Justin Campus 'cause I'm sure he was sitting there waiting going on they're gonNA talk about them they're gonNA have to talk about him surely the up ten I usually look back on the twenty fifth thirtieth range and these are usually the guys that are there I mean there's a few in there that obviously are there every week but for the most part you know these are your drivers yeah had all sorts of issues and somehow he ends up eighth but if you would just pass this top ten list the car finished eleventh I don't understand that either Mondo massive big ones there were three and you could even argue the thing on the last lap is a fourth but yeah well it depends on what you can constitute a big one I mean how many cars involved concerned they all happen with like the lead car and wiped everything out behind in each time what's the deal with that I mean I don't Llegado with that car destroyed as badly as it was that's yeah it's insane there are a lot of torn up race cars at somehow ended up in the lap so I counted at least two major huge so Austin Dillon at number six yes he solid top six for him and he and his brother tie I thought there was a chance on that final restart that they would be Dan obviously the the Bowman thing was a weird block that he shouldn't have thrown after that it just looked like some possible misjudgements misjudgements yes so that's a good way to categorize it hey somewhere on this list I think we're on is this right corey joy joy with a seventh place finish that's awesome right there all right if you Tapered spacer ace somewhat he is fifth-place finish for him as big and he's looking for a ride next year still he's not signed for the thirty four car he might be in the end but winning this thing one of those two and somehow they squandered their opportunity but they still finished top ten both of them but man they should have been up there for the win I think Michael Mcdowell their number five he's currently ride lists for next season where will the musical chairs and Eric All Merola at number four and then you've got the Denny Hamlin at number three who looked like he might have win one foot of the start Finish Line Newman and Blaney and it was the number twelve car up Laney picking up the W let's hear from Ryan from our trouble yesterday something there on that that final lap but it was not to be and where he came from is beyond me because he was in one of those early crashes and kind of laid back there today waited for his time a spinning coming onto pit road leading the race obviously that's something you WanNa forget right I mean you you learn what to do better next time you want to forget about that you know I feel like all the other speedway races this year we've got collected in someone else's mess you know and and none of our doing a lot of guys had that happened to them today it's just the way this get to the bottom and the lead you know runs coming from somewhere and the the eleven had had a great recovery day and was pushing the six pretty hard and very extremely hard and these cars the bumpers don't connect well and the springs are so stiff that it's easy to turn cars to the right and you saw a lot of that I just wanted to know where to go the just a wild race and that comes from people pushing really hard you know literally that's what people got turned from people pushing beat racing goes but today we were we were able to be in our spot to see the wreck happened and miss it which has not been the case this year for us we've always been given at the end of the race and Ryan Blaney we'll talk a air bubbles rex lanes runs and lack of domination has no air bubble to kind of push the leader Fronts mm-hmm well Matt Roush Fenway Racing Car Watch better than anybody anticipated at this point in the season and still made the playoffs that's impressive was very close to advancing to this I'm sure wow how about blaney though I mean he was not taken any of newman stuff going door to door some say he went below the other line but I don't know I around and had he done so and had this run on top of it and possibly win who knows what would have happened with him but what if yeah maybe if that happened and this happened happened today I think that was pretty much every car's getting getting kind of side swiped the rear bumpers but Tom Luckily we were to make it through those and then capitalize on the opportunities Oh yeah I mean that was a pretty pretty gutsy performance by the six car wasn't it I guess but he's still winless he is still win this I will give you that but man he has really I know we let a little bit I didn't really think about that but it wasn't no one dominating this race you know I mean I think you can look back at this whole race and there wasn't anyone with a dominantly to keep drivers from trying to cut each other off going into these turns I get that we've had a lot of safety innovations though since that day and I think we're at the point now where I don't want to say the line and and that was really the difference was the moves that he made with those guys coming on the outside I'm sure you somehow WanNa go back in talk about Ryan Newman I passes there were there probably a lot and you know yeah a little bit more than I like see whether you're just going to have those what people were pushing really hard like they did today but I saw go below the line so I will say that yes so what was I mean why is that different why was that yellow line different well that's a good question I couldn't tell you I'm sure his fan base is Kinda puffing up their chests a little bit because people have been kind of down on their guy for the last couple of years and Ryan Newman's had a pretty good season all five of them are ecstatic one of of spinning to pay road but you know like I told him last night and I'm glad we got that out of the way early and we didn't damage a car in any way and we kind of know what the limits are at that point so Liane they know that he did it's just a deemed it wasn't on purpose they say that he was forced down there by Ryan Newman Y NASCAR will say he was forced down there I didn't really see him get forced down there so I can tell you nascar kind of extra judgment calls whenever they want I don't know I didn't see that myself but you know that's why you don't put judgments into into calls like this because everybody's got a different point of view who knows the I slap but I'm fine with it being gone all the way together there's too many weird judgment calls and it's not consistent and no matter when you see it so you see in the truck series race somebody does ask car was all about the help behind you the runs that you could get where you took your runs this this beaver tough nowadays with the way the cars are now one thing to watch and the finish was pretty epic so you know six closest finish in Nascar since the advent of electric timing and scoring back in ninety three you can't play different lanes you're just trying to push as hard as you can no there's a couple of instances we came up the road I able to just run the bottom and run it pretty decent in who cares already he didn't he didn't he didn't he didn't you're right but if he did it would cool but it wasn't and it isn't so here we are but still awesome run by him and the crew chief Jeremy Bowlen's breaks down break it yeah we knew we had a fast car you know you've worked lead right there so you know as unfortunate what happen we saw them coming but you know just hoping that we can play enough defense and get those separated and Ryan did a great job of kind of those got separated and and getting the run back to get by food and judging forty cars and all the parts and pieces wheels and lug nuts and and pit crew members and and Jackson all that stuff and they are able to handle that no problem but they can't have one computer watching the field to see if somebody goes to the line I mean I don't get it well they know anyone the same thing and then the cup race they do it and one they're penalized one they're not and it just throws out a bunch of question marks from fans like Hey Nascar wanting this guy to win you don't see any domination more it's probably good for the fans right I mean it's you don't have anybody leading one hundred laps of the race it's all mixing up I don't know how many green like us at facebook dot com slash the final lap like us this is the sports to save because it's never too safe but I think we're at a point now where we can relax that yellow line rule especially if it's on the last lap I think we should just throw that thing out out the window especially wasn't that guy to win what's going on here and I think just getting getting rid of the rule would solve that NASCAR has one of the most sophisticated officiating systems on the planet when it comes through he's with the the craziness that happened throughout the whole thing I'm sure it would have been great without as many cars torn up as there were but it was still really in the last couple of APPS here came in Hamlin looking like hamlet or restrictor plate tracks working his way to the front in the end it was Ryan squared couple of Ryan's coming with walk off yeah that's awesome so there you have it just an all guys coming up next on the program and we've got a whole bunch more after that on t. f. l. w. stay tuned there's no reason you know we pretty much recovered from got back tenth by the end of the stage so we knew we had a good car and just put it in behind us and move on well you know we know that once you ace yeah Blaney was last think Larson was last when the round started wasn't he that sounds about right so I mean wow wait a hit Abbas dismal of a season as we've had but yet still be up there in battling for wins every week and you know that they always say I'd rather be lucky chance for drivers to advance so the bottom for drivers after Talladega are Alex Baumann Chase Elliott Clint Boyer and William Byron Yeah and so the two guys who have you can't really ask for much more than that so blaney moves on to the next round of NASCAR's playoffs along with the Kyle Larson who now have wins in this round Kansas is coming up this weekend the last just circumstantial I mean we just found lead a little bit throughout the race and we're shuffled back to the fraud is just kind of the way things are now wow he was talking about in that one I had all kinds of topics breath and that's that's the problem the line rule I don't like it at all I understand why it was instituted two thousand and one Dale Earnhardt was killed last lap five hundred and they had to do something for safety for me yelling at the TV when you're leading I mean it's been so many times this season man I'll tell ya I do appreciate it number one first and foremost but number two decisions and I feel like our team has really done a great job of that and put us in a position to to be successful this season I don't buy into the whole media not being able to cheer for drivers that don't you ah all right so this season has kind of been ups and downs you've had opportunities but you're still kind of in the mix they're probably the hardest part you know to the winds are guys who really needed them to advance those guys that it wasn't looking very good so the fact there there is is very impressive I think Blaney was last wasn't he going into this I made the call might have been a Blaney Fan Oh good for for Blaney though for standing up for himself and not just letting newman push him around I agree I totally agree it was awesome finish it was a great and then having a night in between honesty worse you kinda dwelling on it and same with the heck did I do that I was so dumb and then you know listen a bunch of wrecks today I five and they're like hey man just keep digging right like it's it's going to turn around and when you when you see when you see that when when you know you have the respect your your I thank God for that for that ability every day so even when it's not the way that you wanted to go there's plenty of other race car drivers garage area in the truck series are in the cup series translates it's just a matter of technology changes so rapidly in the sport and our guys you know stuff that worked two weeks ago through go may not even work this week it's it's just crazy apps and just something crazy always seems to come down to the end it keeps us from being able to go to victory lane that's disappointing but on the flip side of this team especially the seventeen but everybody good any day right now I know that sounds like a dumb statement but you know for us this year it seems like when we when we've been on we're on and we have speed and we're able to run a front leader so you can kind of watch over years past and say hey this is going to happen you know X. amount of cautions and lines guys are gonna run and things like that so I think for us it's about it's about really studying Komo sports is rallied so hard everybody works hard you know we can talk about all man the guys work super hard which they do the the amount of hours that they put in season you've been to it some of the tracks before can you take those notes and bring him I know you know it was cooler earlier this year now it's hotter any of that stuff translate over racing all over the country you know whatever whatever series relative series are in that would that would love to be in the position that we've been in you know and I don't take that for granted and and you just keep is incredible but every team works hard it's when you when you're working hard and back's against the wall kind of making those those good decisions right not the not the decision making the are as funny that was actually done months and months and months ago they just was never really a formal announcement and then somebody came hey what's you know hearing rumors what's the deal and we feel like we do a good job of understanding trends of a racetrack you know yes it's hotter but but Las Vegas has some pretty key trends to them not been kind of clone away back to top and trying to get back up there and I think sometimes in my opinion that actually is better because you know the engineering side of it and how aggressive everybody has to be to kind of keep up with it that'll be said I do feel like trends definitely are important like oh no we're we're good so you know for me that's that's the support Renfrewshire and quote that we've had has been unbelievable you know the you know we we've had the helmets paint scheme on this year you know to have those brands on the car as well has been has been great you know we've had a lot of great programs with them as well so th this season his is definitely been a lot of fun representing a lot of great companies just either go to victory lane for all of them definitely now when you're you're were here in the late in the of the regular season how do you find it in yourself to you got to go to the next level now this is the time of year that you have to really perform I think for us it's been interesting because this season we the Unilever brands that we run on our car kind of some weeks you know obviously a bunch of different brands with the swamp man the the Klondike bar paint scheme as an and you're trying to make sure that I I'm a family man as much as I am racecar driver on top of it it it can be a little bit of a challenge but it's actually my next question are you doing home schooling isn't that ritual we gotta we gotta see you in and make sure that we get to get our get our interview that's right look at the schedule where's Carey he he didn't request maybe it'll be in the next next race right exactly we've as I mentioned earlier we we've kind of been behind so much that I feel like we've we've we've dug deep kind of all year there's really not been a weekend where we've is there you know I do feel like now when the seventy won the championship years ago they can't have exploited how important plant in that regard because you kind of know what to throw out what to keep hopefully and and you know sometimes you not always able to get there you still at least kind of know what's going to happen when you go through the grind mark and I have to look stuff up online it's not easy stuff a friend of ours that goes to school she actually sent my wife a a math question and she said okay can you help me decipher final land weekly on the final lap once again is just an Auger welcome back to the program as always is always good to be on it's I I feel like when we come out of the West Coast in you know at the end of the day you you you you push yourself as hard as you can bush and and whatever happens from that happens on twitter you're all set for twenty twenty yeah going to be back jared seventy racist studying the video watching onboard cameras You know looking through our notes what do we you know we know the balance we fought in the spring and we got to go and do a better job of make sure that we we don't fight that same balances this this weekend coming up so you know I think he's just circumstantial for sure but I think just being veteran in in in having some experience you're definitely helps yeah well she seems to really like it so you know it's it's going to be a work in progress we're going to have to you know make sure we stay up on it home schooling is not easy I tell people that all the time I give a lot of credits and you know when when other teams feel sorry for you then things have happened the way they have you know that that's a great thing when it's frustrating to know that he just can't I can't see no I feel like that's been the hardest part you know even even crew members on other teams that that were battling with for championship have come over and they they put their arm around you or come up with a big challenge but you know my daughter has done a fantastic job with my wife's Advantis job with it and we just gotTa keep going to keep the ball rolling for sure I look at my first graders we homeschool Wednesday Friday which for our schedule is fantastic you know we're able to travel you know my wife's able to to do home schooling we're on the road one way or the track my daughter seems really adapt who on the summer months and you're like hey we can just we can just push ourselves a little bit here but not all the way you get to the playoffs and you're like okay I gotta go back to one hundred percent sometimes hundred percents points were in so I feel like every team now has kind of adopted that we've run as hard as you can run all summer long too long stretch without off weekends and so I feel like a that's awesome I have a feeling we're GONNA get there very soon I'm not looking for those days but on the flip side of a mouse really smart so you know I think that she's definitely Get out money that black cloud but like I said I got a great team by me I'm blessed where I love to do you know I get up every morning and and I get to go drive race cars for a living so smartest effort that I've ever made in my life but in January I'm GonNa do half Marathon Disney you know for me it's been it's been fun I I did I did gold we're actually doing a joint effort so we have a Christian school that's not far from my house that they go three days a week at school I go Monday Tuesday Thursday and then then so it was it was good to know though and you as my daughter's brought homework home she's in kindergarten so you know the the homework obviously isn't quite as advanced yet but it's still pretty crazy for you know what they're learning seven hundred challenge As far as working out and and to be honest with you when I started the challenge I had no want to do any physical activity at all and when it all was said and done I was really happy with number one teaching staff in the United States you know whether that's public school private school home schooling it doesn't it doesn't matter but especially to with adding travel into it it it it it's GonNa be of this because I I don't understand it and I think her little boy is in second grade and It was quite the I I I is this one of those like impossible floor especially they're running out of things I really have enjoyed that I've always been a cyclist so getting back on the bike a lot more and do more cycling his been fantastic you know she's been trying to make sure that she she does the best she can I hear you're quite the wake border out there on the lake I do a lot of weeks I try to at least it's fawn background we ran eight hundred nine hundred a year so I feel like managing that is is is easier but it's still it's still a challenge especially when you know my daughter's school now at ashamed I am but he's got the people that they do know the answer you know and and so I think I think for me it's been great I avenue to be able to help the challenge Jimmy's a guy that I can pick up the phone and to hey what do I need to do different and if he doesn't know the answer because obviously he's he's a machines and we t. f. l. w. Anya found a place where we talk about all things Nascar my name's Kerry Murphy I'm a longtime NASCAR media member and syndicated radio host of all things the final APP has a Hendrick motorsports their training staff has been a great advocate of mind to be able to try to help Josh Lake Cook that are both I'm not great at it but you know with with the travel that we do and the rigorous schedule that we have it's nice sometimes to just relax and in kind of you know get out of the water you know when we get these play offs you know being able to Maine that is a big deal and I and I think sometimes that you know you have drivers that are really good at managing it some aren't you know my and just be out there and kind of relax do nothing makes it fun the opposite of relaxing I hear you're training for a half marathon I am had I'm not sure that that was shins that to solve or is this a legit question him I think they're actually being norman in this normal questions okay well I wouldn't have gone in great shape that have both done you know Armand's in triathlons and and so I've been asking them a lot of questions and I feel like sometimes you you got to rely on the people that are around you Komo weather results but number two just it's sparked something in me and kind of gave me a passion for some other some other avenues you know that that I'm kind of able to at that young age is pre it's pretty impressive there's been times I put a question mark on my kids a homework and just said parents don't get this either don't know the answer of sorry from any tips from Jimmy no Jimmy Jimmy is a great a great guy watch I mean you know and and the thing that all about Jimmy is if I have a question or if I have it it's been fun to land you guys are making a lot easier for US media folks on on how to prove that you guys truly are athletes because you guys are now why I'm still not to the point where really you know Kinda help moving forward and for me this has been this has been a community it's been a village it needs definitely been a a one person show it's it's been a village to kind of get me to where I'm at fifty one career starts toby I tip the cap to you you called it I did so I think this was cabinet Rainier I think a lot of people saw this coming moving to the seventeen announced a few weeks back stenhouse in case you're wondering or have been living in a cave is a two-time xfinity series champion and two cup series wins under his belt in two hundred balances for me I've never been a big lake person so legs and knees and ankles I went through some some pretty good pain in this process of trying to get myself into running we're looking at one sixty one seventy heart rate in the car averaged for three hours four hours but it's different when you when you moving different muscle groups and you're trying to trying to find those and Yeah so sorry about that Kerry that's right I'm just here waiting waiting we could have been done by now I agree we could've been eating everything could have been fine as to deal with jt hall hardy racing to drive their number thirty seven machine essentially them along without fenway or basically swapping drivers with Chris Butcher pretty good about that I remember the day when I couldn't even run a eight thirty mile in one mile When I started this challenge literally when I started John I couldn't run more than a mile thank you as always like us at facebook dot com slash they'll final lap final lap weekly is back here's your host carry Murphy and Toby Christie just Tom Daniel hammered being released from our CR kind of maybe we'll think maybe he was going to j t g doherty but it was pretty obvious long was going to be stenhouse I mean is he added appreciate it yeah sorry depending on when you're listening to this I was in the break they're working on getting a live stream of Anthony Alfredo posted to my website a couple of guys talking racing CFL w Sonya found the place where we talk about all things NASCAR names carry Mercury Longtime Nascar media member and syndicated radio host of all things the final laps co host is right there Toby Christie Nascar editor from the final half dot com and social media director from all things at the final lap as well as his own we've been having a great time I mean the problem is now mentally done and so I think you're already that before the show started so I think we're okay all right yeah you know to win them the under his belt like you said he's been a pretty competitive driver and equipment that's been kind of considered subpar so he he has an opportunity who the better driver really is now there's no hiding it at this point I guess not yeah all things being equal yeah for sure so you can definitely get both their comparisons of how they ran here and how they're in there and oh yes so hopefully we can make a few few appearances before the summer runs out what you're going to be kind of busy going for that championship so best of luck throughout the rest of the season and good luck this weekend but it's been a lot of fun it's been great it's been great to to learn it and feel like I'm definitely getting stronger at it so that's all that really matters whilst question be that hey news of the week so we got another piece of the puzzle that has been put into place as far as silly season goes ricky stenhouse junior for one year just to review it again when the new cars come out the next season south now yeah that is now what about this whole Boyer Stewart Haas thing it's not officially official but wasn't padres on the air I left the house and in kind of a mock half marathon running around and Iran about eight eight just under forty pays for for thirteen point one mile so I'm at about a nine and a half ten minute pace and not be winded and and you know but it is totally different than being in the car hurry in the car is so high I'm you know does end so you know you would imagine the you'd WanNa driver Little Heftier if he's pushing Bacon for you to believe it you know like Ryan Newman would be a perfect insight there and he's busier there then even on the show he's he's not even paying attention to what he's doing here somehow the words are coming out correctly though so I'm going to let it slide Toby Christie Dot com retract plans in the off season? Yeah we're going to again we'll do you Florida in January for the modified Dirk are nationals doesn't happen You'd imagine Cole custer would be in the forty one car next season imagine then you've got the thirty eight car that David Ragan is leaving to retire and so that's open and of course thirty four car might be open as well as McDowell's not resigned yet so it looks like front row motorsports could have some turnover there and that's you know a lot of things that is a lot of things to consider not many rides left now no the silly season Domino's are falling pretty quick here so the only things really loud racetrack not covered with somebody's name on it in Rochester says he took a different approach towards getting noticed in Nascar while I was really help elevate jt g doherty ratings equipment. Although Chris Bushy obviously has been doing a great job as well so it'll be interesting now so these popping cars will really get a really good sense of announced a Suarez kind of weight and things there which I'm hearing there could be something very soon about that as well all Merola has got that Bacon thing down man does he. He plugged that he does auto racing car open at this point not signed which was funny earlier in the season looks like we're going to three out of the cars have new drivers next season because it wasn't for whenever I I drove up the shop that with Chris Rice their colleague racing's president and we talked through everything Chris and I have a bit of a of a path oh bacon it sounds pretty good it does yeah he's he's a good pitch man I think hey over the extended series we've got to Ross chastain announcing that he's GonNa Drive fulltime for colleague racing in two thousand twenty honestly and that's honestly made it even better now that we get to work together that were were racers and and so to merge all that together with Matt colleagues become buddies with but you know he's somebody that just came in after me and was within an xfinity car winning races even though we went head to head at Phoenix Kalusha I I'm trying to get some more racing before the end of the year go on the federal auto parts modified that we've got but haven't quite gone and there's also been rumors about correlate joined the car but all that was tied to them doing a technical alliance with Stewart Haas racing which has been kinda nixed since they don't really want to buy all the upgraded looks like Clinton is in the fourteen car for next season for Stewart Haas racing and Yeah so that that should be done deal and like I said that just leaves the one it wasn't a whole lot of right things to look at you know really really late and go and get ready for the twenty nineteen season so we started from from that moment and that'll be for full-time so obviously for the xfinity series championship let's hear from us the yes it will be in the Denver ten car next year taking colleague racing join Injustice Haley after are the forty one car that Daniels warez has still not been resigned in he's saying he's close the team saying that he still has some sponsorship to iron out and in fact no the interviews don't get old no they don't unless they signed a deal between them and then well okay but I tend to not you know it was last week yeah our guest from last week there you go yeah so go ahead we didn't mention winning go ahead and yeah go ahead and listen to that back again because some all right so we got Kansas speedway on taffer this weekend more than that it is an elimination race with four drivers losing their championship hopes going up in smoke as soon as that checkered flag falls the bottom four like we mentioned at Talladega Alex Bowman Chase Elliott Clint Boyer and William Shen is an agricultural company you know and they they WanNa we wanted to sell more produce want people to buy more produce and live a healthier life you know just coming in I wasn't on the path of of some other guys there's no no hiding it right Toyota Line of Defense on it yeah Pakuris has already announced he's got sources saying it's done deal which that's good enough for me and fifth packers is reporting it I'm down with that too so trunk that could be in a nascar but I was working on the business side even harder where most people only knew that I was the watermelon guy they didn't really know my name or who I was Erin Joy Llegado and Brad Kazlauskas not exactly safe either though they are eighteen and sixteen points just inside the top eight yeah which all it would take is one really as the second fulltime driver it was pretty apparent to me pretty early on this year that this is somewhere that you could have a home at they took me in whenever stage and when really bad stage by one of those guys outside and one of those guys inside and that would really change things up pretty quickly and that's how you can get a really quick I all day long in Kansas and this could lead to somebody making a mistake as well which would be pretty fun an interesting the pressure is on it is this is what it's all about man you've raised all I'm working on you know every day more more partners and building those relationships with people to vote you know fill out our season we don't want this ten car bacon salesman when she does with his Oscar Mayer stuff but for whatever reason I still feel as genuine with Eric hourly I feel like he really loves Bacon and when he mentions it I'm like me and you know what I want the good ones make it you know you look at Air Joel came in a little bit after me and blue by me and his rise to the top is somebody that I've got the no now and and art you had a pretty quick landing though so he was backing wheels pretty quick they did it was pretty interesting that was one of the weirder flips I've ever seen it didn't land on anybody and impressively eh just kept going it was fine yep so Kansas this weekend is bad fast in the top ten fastest race tracks I'm not sure what that stat even means because there's not too many racetracks to begin with I mean there's twenty two or three right so you're in the top half the top half of fast racetracks exactly drivers those gone I showed that to my son he's like it looks like a toy and it really does when they flip and fly like that you don't expect something that heavy to be flying here well and about the other than I was the watermelon farmer and that was because we worked so hard on the PR in the business is to make people remember me for something different and I I I could not be Sadder Cup race two hundred sixty seven laps four hundred miles stages weigh in at eighty one sixty and to sixty seven last year's winner chase Elliott I don't and there you go Mr Watermelon there is the watermelon man it's pretty awesome our guest from a couple of weeks back I think it was and it is or maybe it was last week I think it was sure Eric I'm role is GONNA be back it wasn't for sure boy an indefinite wasn't sure about Suarez right now to those three have been reassigned to it looks like as long as the boyer deal is ago and my son asked when it's flying they control it I'm like no it's not plain just hoping that when you took off it was pointed in the direction they were something's not going to her think I don't remember I don't think that's that's not right Oh do they mow it yeah I think I don't think big we'll go with it they do they have to dodge it season-long it comes down to this I know there's still a long way to go in these playoffs but for these guys this is where their playoffs can either continue or end as there's a lot of pressure on the line I have to dodge rows and rows of wheat and corn growing on the track in between the cracks and stuff it makes for interesting racing it's every year it's it's the nutrient solution that's everything made sense so we've been working on getting this together for a while now thank everybody for their patients in announcing we wanted to do with the Kansas actually it should be like drivers dodging corn at Kansas. Yeah with a K. Corner with a K. right exactly we begin with Ryan Blaney who has three top-five shoplifting of spots inside the the cutoff there or if somebody wins from the bottom for definitely that happens that's a game changer that's an automatic berth into the into the playoffs way WanNa do it you know above board and I WANNA thank everybody for that you know getting our our first win together this year with big nuture neck solutions being on the car for twenty three races Jimmy Johnson he's got three wins nine top fives eighteen top tens three polls and his average finish is altman is set a set plan and and he comes from those guys come from the midgets and then they come into trucks and and straight up to the affinity and cup cars in two thousand thirteen and and he deeply on a late run to the finish I guess it's the beginning of my stuff went out and make like I was trying to be in the most dependent that's true yeah that's true so it's one and a half miles in length banking up to twenty degrees front stretch twenty six eighty five feet backstretch twenty two zero seven so not equidistant check out all of the corn dodging action Kansas speedway Sunday two thirty PM EASTERN ON NBC being being being Drivers Doing Dandy at the winner earlier this year was Bratkowski so he needs to get it done there's two guys right there that both need to get it done so this could be big for either one of them if they can repeat those performances oh I mean if you're Llegado Anka's allows you guys wins money y'all are going to be out and if one of these other guys has a really good couple stages you're in a pressure pack situation for the last one driver added bonus driver again we gotta do the bonus driver because you know we if we do the top five all the time it gets kind of boring so this week's bonus driver is I love and I thrive on the fact that people might not know my name but they know watermelon on the watermelon farmer and I mean there's no hiding it nutrient actually holds I don't have a time line I personally know that I would like every day that I can before I'm I need to me higher in every category at this track than any of the top five in championship points his average finishes ten point three so that's why he is this week's bonus driver Ryan of course it's flying fast and furious at this point yeah Jimmy Johnson recently why you give me one of the best drivers in the sport but I'm sure there's probably reason one win six five ten top tens and average finish of sixteen point nine well it's because we have a super special bonus so he does have more wins more top more better average fish all those things are better than everybody we just mentioned that's impressive and now it's time for a Jimmy Johnson Ball you've asked too many timely questions right now like man you're everything your your lead US merge for his team of it I'd never leave here there on the ally bank inking a long term contract with the forty eight car very very excited that ally has signed this extension with Hendrick right now too so this is a very important race they're not gonna be able to lay back waiting for something to happen like a lot of guys we're doing at Talladega you're going to be up in the mix you're going to be trying to be the top we'll usually start in the spring of the year the contract would end so based on past experience I would say that probably spring next year is here's here's two wins this race track eight top five nine top tens two poles and average finish fourteen point two and you can take the next one to Kyle Busch I don't know five ten pounds a poll and an average finish of fifteen dot one how about Kyle Larson the winter a couple of weeks ago Dover he has three top fives five top tens and average of sixteen point six have Denny Hamlin who's going to win six top five seven top tens at an average finish of fifteen point seven how about Martin Church junior he's the guy who has been kind of dominant on mile and a half tracks over the last three years any time I've been there and done like a road course it helps with with a more elevation kind of things and stuff like that the decision a lot of things to look out with the Gen seven car coming the way our team's performing and what we're building helps helps me out so yeah it's I don't know we should be good hopefully you never really know what to expect to get there is like us at facebook dot com slash final lap final lap weekly getting you ready for this weekend's race my name Kerry Murphy his name but it's tough for still chevy still when Pratt Miller still developing it and trying to make it better more realistic so it's not where it needs to hey real quick friend of the show Brendan Gone did you see him fly through the air last week man I was so bummed because he had just taken the lead it was like Whoa God and then there but I love Florida see this is how we make it up to Justin Kapuscinski for not mentioning the calar someone a couple of weeks ago Dover when 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Ep. 177: Jerry Freeze of Front Row Motorsports
"Hey there. It's Tom Haberstroh the national NBA insider for NBC sports. And I want to tell you about my podcast. It's called the Habur show. I'll be interviewing some of the game's biggest and brightest names inside and outside the sport. So if you wanna learn something about the NBA wanna know what happens behind the scenes, this is the pod for you. Like, why did JJ Redick delete social media? And what does stand Van Gundy think of all these threes and did rockets GM Daryl Morey really see this Houston turnaround coming down low now, but beware. These conversations will change the way you think about the NBA. Welcome aspirin his podcast on your host. Nate Ryan today here in mooresville North Carolina at the headquarters second floor of front row motorsports. Where I am joined by the general manager of the team Jerry freeze. Jerry returning a guest to the podcast got very positive response for your parents last year. So thanks for coming back. My pleasure, Nate, always a pleasure to talk to you. And make sure I got this. Right. You're still general manager expansion. All right. Joel manager of a team that added a third car for twenty nine hundred Jerry with Matt tift? And in addition to that when I talked to you last year, we were at your shop in states Ville. And now you've kept that shop for the moment. And you also have added this shop in mooresville, which was formerly Chip Ganassi racing. Many many years ago h Scott motorsports also was in here and now front row. So take me through with the process has been like adding that third car and adding a new location as well. I think since since we last spoke front row motorsports as gone in and bought another race team. That was in bankruptcy operated that team to the bounce a- last year, basically shut down that team moved some of the folks, and and certainly some equipment over into our front row race team rented another shop expanded into that third car to utilize that new charter hired a lot of people to help with getting the the inventory built up and to go take the cards to the racetrack. And to take care of the business side. Of the third team. And so there it's been a whirlwind for sure we've we've had an awful lot going on since about mid August. And as we talked about last time, I'm I'm really big into cycling. And I think I've ridden my bike twice since September one last year. So so big into cycling. There's actually stationary bike. Hearing Jerry's office machines about that's about the only way. Get on it anymore. So I had to drag it up here. But but yeah, we've had a lot going on. And we haven't started the season. I think in finishes being what we'd want. But there's been a lot of speed in the race cars and really been encouraged that even with all the expansion and moving and set up shop mad and people and all that that you know, I I feel like we've still got a pretty competitive product out there. How many people did you guys end up adding Jerry with the new car again being that tift, and I would presume it's not just a road Kurna crew chief, but it's the support people here at the shop and chassis suspension body all that stuff. It sure is you know, we went from around. I think it was sixty five people, and we're we're up to like ninety three ninety two something like that. So, you know, in the challenge in all that is you know, you really look for some economies of scale of ad net. Thirteen minutes reason, you do it in a lot of respects but race now two different shops. It's kinda hard to have that Konami sometimes and that one guy that can do a couple of things. Well, he's over in our. Other shopping states Ville and and into backup a little bit. Our shopping states, Phil we're still doing all of our fabrication work. We just expanded our fabrication capabilities in states Ville, and and then the assembly set up road crew business offices here in mooresville. So we're operate now to shops right now, which isn't perfect. But you know, we're making it work, and you know, it's kind of hard. Sometimes you got obviously to light bills and trash services and everything. So it's not as a fishing as it could be if we're all in one space, but but we're making it work and just trying to keep keep the two two shops engaged communication, obviously is a is a huge component of of any successful business. And so I've tried to work real hard to keep that communication open. And keep the fellas and Seitz villes engaged with what's going on in mooresville and vice versa. And just to put it in context for people who might not be familiar with the Charlotte area. Who are listening state spill is about twenty to thirty minutes away on I seventy seven depen-. On how traffic is on one of the worst arteries in America's roadways. Yes, I'm sure sometimes that trip takes longer. But certainly that's not far, you know, half hour to get from here to states Ville tops. That's not too bad. But when the cars arrive here Jerry just to sort of explain a little bit further. They're pretty much almost in finished state. And then when they come here to mooresville, they just put like the finishing touches the rap with people would think of as the paint scheme, and then loaded on the truck here in and send it out and the crew chiefs have their offices here as well. Yes. That's correct. So yeah. And I think it's a it's a little more than that going on here at in mooresville shop the cars come I think anything that's manufactured the body the chassis. Gotcha. That's what's done and over in our states Ville shop. It comes over here and suspensions bolted on drivers seats put in all the interior components fuel cell engine. And then then set up and ready to go to the racetrack. So you know, I don't want to sell a poor guy short here. Now a lot going on here too. So this is the most important part. Right. I mean, they have to be right. Well, get on the truck. You know, it's all important. You know, if if it's not done right in the fabrication process. There's no way they're gonna fix it at this point. So the body's just not right? And you're not getting the arrow you need on the car. The chassis is not straight or built the way it should be. You know, you're never gonna get the handle so maintaining that quality control with two different shops. Donnie wingo here who's been a longtime crew chief he oversees all of our car production. He has spent a lot of time traveling between states Ville mooresville and then over to row standing gauged with what's going on with our alliance partner in rows Fenway. So Donnie does a fantastic job with just ensuring the quality control the cars, and we've really been pleased to see our product as you get these scan maps off the Hawkeye system, and the consistency in our cars and compare them to the rash cars which were trying to build to their spec. You know, I feel like our guys do a good job of that just to again frame it for people when I drove up here from Charlotte. I got off on. Exit thirty five and seventy seven in came through the the winding road that leads up to the hill that the shop sits on and went past rouse, Yates, were all the engines come from Tra Ford teams and some other suppliers and vendors down here down the road. So I presume Jerry like having this new location at when you're expanding your staff by nearly a third when you're going from sixty something people to ninety something people being in mooresville allows you to attract maybe a better talent pool. Then you could even though states Ville is only thirty minutes away. There's some people think that's the country. This is a little bit more like the city. Yeah. For sure for sure even though it is that close it can be a million miles away to somebody's gotta drive to work there every day. So and as you alluded to with the traffic, if you live in a certain part of Charlotte, and you got to traverse through all that traffic to get the state's Ville, it can be a nightmare odd. So being a mooresville the thing I didn't really give a lot of thought that this would be playing our favor, but being in mooresville if you just look at a at a map. Up in Charlotte. Mooresville is right in the center. So it doesn't matter where a person lives were essential to where they are. So it was from that regard. You know, the folks that we had work enforced out of states Ville, moving the mooresville a lot of times, it was just kind of getting closer to their home. So they're happier with that. But with adding the new SAF it made those conversations a lot easier. You know, we would get a resume in. And it was like initially you just asked what where do you live? You know, because you knew if the person lived nor Charlotte or huntersville or concord or something it was going to be tough to talk about life. So there's some done for mill. Exactly, exactly. So so, yeah, I feel like it's a really played in our favor. You know, the other factor at the end of last year there were couple teams that had had some significant downsizing, and we were one of the few in the industry that we're actually up sizing. And so there was a large talent pool for us to kind of sift through. And and I feel like we really upgraded. Our talent. We we really added some some really strong people to augment the folks that the strong people are already had on the team. And so I I feel like through the manufacturing process with those folks, we have we've got a a little more talent. They are the the road crews to and you know, we'll start seeing the dividends from that. Just having more talented people putting their hands on the car. So like, you said you you've already seen some faster cars some good results. Michael McDowell certainly in the Daytona five hundred want to get to that eventually, but yeah, that depth of talent pool. I think I can recall this ten years ago when the great recession hit and suddenly there were nearly a thousand crew members looking for work again, it changed the game for say like a Stewart Haas racing that just added Tony Stewart. I remember Tony Stewart saying, hey, suddenly, this is like a buffet line. I can go out and really be selective in hiring. I'm sure it's not exactly analogous to. We you guys have your. I mean that must be. Yeah. Similar right. More selective. Yeah. That front row motorsports. In my mind. Started with the great recession at the end of two thousand. Eight right. So Bob Jenkins. Our team owner had been I would say more part time racing with a smaller version of front remoter sports that kind of started out at Jimmy means race team in but two thousand nine really took the plunge to be a full-time Cup series car owner guys like me that were with the team that had gone under at the end of two thousand eight we're looking for a job and Bob being an opportunist was able to really take the plunge in a team. And so I was able to bring several guys that I worked with at petty enterprises, they're still here today. And, but you know, we had a lot of DAI refugees and can ASI people. And but yeah, very similar to that that time that there were people that just had a a ton of experience that all of a sudden we're looking for work that had been organizations for ten or twelve years that had just kind of been downsized out. No real reason for them, you know, because of their work product, but more so just because of of the company just downsizing so it played in our favor. And you know, I think we've got a much stronger group. Right now in the decade that the team has been around Jerry how many of the core employees. Have you kept over those ten years because we always hear about it's difficult as a small team are medium sized team. Because once she start doing well, the bigger teams starts sniffing around and poaching. The guys who are really talented. Have you been able to keep some employee's here the whole time, and Ron what number that? But. Yeah ranks. Yeah. You know, I don't have an accurate number but just off top my head. I mean, there's at least eight or ten of us that we're all part of that two thousand nine team. That was I think fifteen people so that are still here in a couple came and went, and you know, I I think one thing we've always offered it front row is and Bob given us. This is a good work environment enough people to do the job. So that, you know, you're not even though we were especially back in two thousand nine eight a real small team. I felt like you know, we still had guys back in the shop. There were building the car. Someone the road crew got back. They didn't have to build next week's car and just flog on. Night to just get to the next race and jump on jump in the car and drive to the next race. So so we've always felt like had a pretty good work environment. Where guys are working reasonable amount of hours. So, you know, some guys left for a little more money and maybe a bigger team. And and just didn't like it and six or eight months later, they came back. But, but yeah, there's a at least eight or nine ten of us that were all part of that initial team. They're all still here. That's cool. And you mentioned the owner Bob Jenkins of the man who signs the checks and mix all of this work, and we just did a little tour the shop, and you also talked about the Hawkeye system, which people also know is the optical scanning station. That's what NASCAR uses at the track to inspect the cars and ensure that they are within tech before the race. And this was one of the things I heard last arena on the podcast jury people really appreciated the knowledge that you brought about the importance of the us not just from fans by her this ministry people to about like, oh, I didn't realize too. We heard him say that that the. Is not just about check it one time at the very end. And it goes to the track and it's within NASCAR specs with their stipulating. You have to check the car throughout the build process. So when I was talking to you in state school year ago, you were debating whether or not to add the s so here we are later. You've got a third car and. I'll let you said. So you still don't have an SS. And I know that you said that you've talked about like do we need one? And tell me about like what that process has been like and also I'll put it out there. So you don't have to S is a very significant investment all of the big teams have them. Although a few big teams like an ASI didn't get it until several months into two thousand eighteen and I think Kendrick was the same way. I Hendrik is the same way that partially could be looked at as why some of those Chevrolet teams probably were struggling, but yet is a six figure three to four hundred thousand dollar investment. So it's it's not as if you can just have Bob go down the store and buy one of these. But take us through like where the team is as far as that s a question a year later. Yeah. Well, the team members definitely we need one Donnie wingo. Certainly feels like we need one. I guess we've looked at it. Some teams have alliance relationships such as we do LeVine does with Gibbs and Pettis do with our CR, so I don't know this fact, but I'm pretty doggone certain that LeVine Pettis don't have a system either. So you have these alliance relationships and party what you're paying for is access to their technology. So we have access to the Hawkeye OS asset at Fenway. You know, it does make it inconvenient though. You can build a legal race car without one no problem if you're trying to build a very competitive race car, you absolutely need one. So for us. The challenge has been trying to get the car scanned as often as possible through the build process that we can maximize to build the car and still maintain racecar. So roughly how many times do you need to check it to be that highly competitive at least like I think probably three or four for and we tried to achieve. Twice Daytona cars. No went more than that. But we had time to do it with the Daytona cars, but for us two times kind of once after the body's been hung on the car, then the car comes back the rest of the fab work's done. And then then we get it assembled with the suspension, and all and then we take it back over just to verify that a it stay within the tolerances. And and heck even driving across I seventy seven go to route. Sometimes you can get them out of tolerance is that close. So while so you've really got to be careful with the car, and you've just the guy's leaning on fenders and in different things like that can really change the state of a front Fender. And and they make the the the noses entails and some of the sheet metal as thin as they can to still meet the rule tolerance. But but that just makes them kind of week two. So so anyhow, we try to at least get them the OS system it Rosh Fenway two times before they go in the race track for us. I I know there's team smaller now hours to that. Certainly don't. Do that that might just take one occasionally to nascar's hawkeye's for just a validation that we're still building the legal race car. But you know, I think if you're building a if you're trying to maximize everything he can competitive wise for the get the most aero in the car, you you've got to do it multiple times. Yeah. And the logistics here again to explain to people is that two shops, one states fell one here Morrisville row and NASCAR were where you can go for those assess checks or in concord, which is kind of like south and east of here. And so it takes about an hour to go from states Ville two there about again, depending on traffic, you're virtually the mercy of the North Carolina department of transportation thirty or forty minutes to get there from here. And so that can add up if suddenly you've gotta make multiple trips. Yeah. I it certainly can and and not just the car and the transportation of of going over there. But you know, we're sending some of our best and brightest people over there with the car, whether it's a car chief, or as I mentioned, Donnie and. Or different leadership out of the fab shop just so that if there is something that's out of line. You know, we can correct it right there. You know, the one thing we do have here. You know? I don't want to sound like we're completely backwards with what we're doing. But but we do have a couple of scanning arms with our measuring arms. Scanners on them at the fab shop as we're building the car, they can actually scan panels on the car. So, you know, we know the areas that are going to be you know, tight. And so we'll scan them there at our fab shop and get an idea that this is going to meet it or not, you know, I feel like we're still even though we don't have the OS system. Here. We've got tools to still try to maximize what we're doing between the builds. And but then taken it over there is kind of real world Hawkeye how they're gonna check them at the racetrack so on, but yeah, we've had a, you know, even though we don't have the system we've had a big investment in some of those tools to be able to measure the cars accurately. Yeah. I definitely don't want to diminish the importance of this place or the capabilities of the history. I mean, this was Chip Ganassi racing. Before that it was Sabco Felix about us. We're actually in as you mentioned Felix about us his office Moore office from if you would have been here twenty years ago and t- taking the tour of the shop floor here. He showed me the pulled down rig got a service plate for every car. So certainly the capabilities are here for a I think achieving the success that you had here when it was gone Assi ran out of here. I think until four so there was some wins. The got here were Jamie, marine, Sterling Marlin, his place now share, and what was kind of cool was Ganassi at one point was running three teams to so kind of opposite side where we're at or the crew chiefs and engineers are. I mean, there was three offices dedicated to each crew chief and engineer lineup. So it was good for us to as we're expanding to third card that each crew chief kinda had the same space, and they're all side by side. So you're kind of forcing him to communicate a little bit and they've got their own conference room. And they're they're calling in every morning with Rosh Fenway talking about what's what's new coming down the pike. So you know, this shop evolved into a three car race team. So it's a kind of was easy for us to move in. And not have to do a lot of wall building and different things like that. And that optical scanning station discussion jury one thing I kind of didn't touch on yet is that another factor in whether or not to get one is what's been the talk of NASCAR really the last. Couple of months now is the gen seven car being on the horizon for twenty twenty one and will it even still make sense to necessarily have one of those machines on your own when that car comes in because that is expected to be a game changer in many ways, and certainly the hope from NASCAR I think in may the teams and the race team lions is that it will be able to reduce costs by some of those economies of scale that you're talking about your overview of what you know. And what she think about the gen seven car and how it could impact front row motorsports. Yeah. I I think going back to. Address in the system. That's one thing last year, we Mata I don't know that we ever seriously talking about buying one. But we were definitely having dialogue about it. Kind of weighing out the pros and cons. And now this year with the sketching around the gen seven car and the potential launch in two thousand twenty one. I think a lot of the there's been a lot of discussion of where where do you go with the aero on the car, and what will the teams be allowed to do? And so I think as those decisions are made, then it's it's going to dictate whether you really need system or not in my mind. And and so we're we're kind of definitely now tabled the conversation about having one of those systems, you know, but I I think going back to the the car itself, you know, I think front row Jerry freeze. I think man, I love it. I love the idea of it. Love the concept of it. If it definitely can bring some other OEM's in the sport. I think would be absolutely super healthy for teams tracks every person. That that has a stake in in NASCAR. I I think it would be fantastic. And you know, and and even not necessarily that front row would look at doing something different with manufacturer. But maybe somebody in the Ford Cam does something different. And it helps us move up the pecking order, and and so I think it just creates opportunity when there's only so many charters Bob Jenkins that we we get some flack now. And then about why are we buying charters and doing all this stuff? That's really Bob's main reason, you know, he wants to beep in a position that if manufacturer if it's Ford if it's somebody else is really wanting to take a big investment into our team. We're sitting here with charters to be able to manufacture. We need a flagship operation in your hope is maybe they would measure dodge chose Reverend had exactly. So that's kind of been the back door method to our madness. And we've had to Lisa charter now and then because we couldn't operate three. But but anyways, I think going back to it. You know, I think the intent is hopefully get some other OEM's look at the sport with the more modern racecar. Also intent to try to take some cost out of the sport. So if that's some of those costs might come through the team's not having to spend so much on the aero side of it. I e do you need a OS system and things of that nature. You know, I think there's going to be certain areas of the car that the teams will still compete against each other with and some areas that you don't necessarily compete with. And I think it it for a team like front row motorsports. That's you know, we're established. We got great personnel. And and it it just something to level the playing field a little bit more will help us competitively at the racetrack. And so I think we're really in favor of it. We're I think cautious looking at the time line. There's a lot to get the sided with this car in a pretty short window. And you know, there's going to be pretty significant cost to step into that car if you're obsolete and a lot of the equipment race cars that you currently own. And so those things I think were we're certainly nervous about how do you get from? Homestead that at two thousand twenty into the first race the year in two thousand twenty one especially if that first races earlier. Yeah. Which could really what we hear? And so, you know, there would be a a lot of money spent a lot of a lot of work to to get to that point. But I think once you do I think it could put a team like ours much better position to be competitive on the racetrack. And that's what we're here for so on. I think we're four we're just, you know, certainly, I think like a lot of other teams and people in the industry just just concerned about the time line and how to make it happen. I I know our our partner in Ford is definitely very much in favor of it. And you know, they they would like to see a more modern component wise car Alan, the track if our partners in favor of it. And it drives some other OEM's getting sport because there is a more relevant car out there that is relevant to what's at the showroom. Then I think it's fantastic. Yeah. Mark rush Burke who heads up Ford's racing program oversees the NASCAR side, certainly is his said that he believes twenty twenty one is realistic for NASCAR. That's. The goal that NASCAR set there's been some others. David Wilson at Toyota has expressed a little bit of concerns about the timetable for development needs to be accelerated here a little bit and and get some real world testing being done. But David also is one along with NASCAR who thinks as you alluded to Jerry that if this works out as planned it could bring in three four more manufacturers. I mean, there's a lot of optimism that I'm hearing about this car in terms of how it can work with attracting some new automakers. And then the opportunities that are out there for that. So I know that you are part of the team owner council committees that meet and just probably limits on how much you can tell us from those meetings. But I've just heard in generalities that the gen seven we'll make things easier by you won't need. Maybe as many cars, you know, the the parts will come in a different way. What can you tell us about? Why would work for teams as as cost savings, and why that might be more peeling to a new manufacturer Pino? I think there's a lot of stuff that still. Will kind of out there on the table to be discussed. And and again, I think the big hitter is how to cut costs for the teams is, you know, are you going to compete as we do right now we basically compete on every single nut and bolt on that race car. So we're we're trying to maximize everything on that car. And so if there are some areas of the car that are more specified us that that we use this this part this component in you know, we don't have to put the development into it. Then there you would think there should be some cost savings in it. It's hard right now. When you you look at this car that we have and just thinking about, you know, when we went from carburetors and to fuel injection, and you're taking the same car, but changing this significant component of of how it operates. And and so it's not just walked in one part for the other. But everything that kind of lines up with those parts. So so whenever you're changing one. Component within the existing car there. There is a significant cost to the team. So with with this car if you're starting from scratch with the brand new chassis brand, new everything. Yeah. There's a lot of costs in that car. Sure initially, but you're not retrofitting over and over and over and over. So the big thing is is just deciding what areas are we going to race in? And so and again, if we're not racing in every like the pick guns. You know, the pig guns were kind of the start of it. So we're not raising pick guns anymore. So it can be argued how much expense there was. But you know, it it sure appeared like there was a lot of expense in pick on some teams that clearly spending seven figures on development just to make their pitstops faster. Yes. Which is a lot of money, which is a lot of money. So that was kind of I think a first step or initial step by NASCAR to look at. All right. If we just take that off the table, what's the impact towards the teams? And so I think with this car there's just a lot more opportunity to to look at that. And and still you don't want to go to an. All spec series, and that's been done before. And it's you know, I don't know there's a lot of enthusiasm for that. But you know, I think he's still got to keep teams can crew chiefs and engineers are figuring out. What's a shock spring sway Bart combinations to get those things to handle, right? And you still gotta have the pit crew element. And the driver talent and all that stuff. So that you can build a better race car and and have a faster race card in the other guy. And so I think that's the balance. That's being Wade out right now, you know, where where does it make sense? What what areas do we really not need to be racing in what areas that we can race in without really breaking the Bank, so to speak and could eventually Roger Penske talked about this and Saint Petersburg with a few of us last weekend. Could eventually maybe help reduce inventory NASCAR made the change this year with the engines to seal the engines to help reduce what Yates and TR D And Hendrik everybody have to supply every week and help save costlo. But that way could that be something where you don't have large fleet of cars. You don't need as many parts, perhaps as I. That's possible. You know, I think if if everybody in the agrees, I guess that that you can do it, and maybe more standardized chassis and not have an maybe the bodies to where you don't have a speedway Carver versus course, car versus car in that car, and I feel like like this your man, we're all over the place with the the five fifty packages of seven fifty pack as the arrow ducks nowhere ducks. And you do not wanna get net situation. So we are I think we're taking some steps to refine our package this year that if certainly caused a little bit of cost increase for us and specializing cars, let's say, but with the new package, I think, you know, that's that's one thing that that. I think could be addressed with is if if you just lock it in of this is the chassis you got or this is the body got then. Yeah. You shouldn't need a whole lot of inventory. I'm curious where the schedule goes a lot of times, you know, you're building up inventory. You know for us these west coast races are always very challenging, you know, but with the logistics involved and the variety attracts, and and you've gotta have you end up buying extra sets of inventory of extra sets of suspension oil tanks and things like that just accommodate the west coast swing that she, you know, maybe didn't necessarily need to do unless you wanna go and rice completely tear your car apart between the tracers so just as a safety net to send out there on the trucks for like say, the Phoenix car after Vegas. Just in case. Something happens you need to have something. Yeah. So just the timing other aces in having cars built earlier accommodate the length of the drive out there and swapping out. So you know, we'd certainly would love to see a little relief in successive weeks of the west coast races. And so I think there's some other things like like just mentioned that can be done to to help bring some costs down. Do you like the idea maybe of getting we're not sure if this is going to happen that may be starting with Theresa's out west the Daytona? And then staying maybe in the southeast for. Awhile. Yeah. He no. I don't know. I think you you have to you know, if you look at the thing you have to start if it's going to happen. You gotta start in west coast for weather reasons. And from what I understand sounds like our TV partners would like to see the season end earlier than what it does right now. I can. If if it's got an earlier, he either gotta start earlier or you gotta start running multiple races during the week or cut races out and in in certainly running races mid week can be challenging to again with logistics. And we're okay with starting the season earlier if that's what everybody wants to do. And you started out west. I I don't really have a lot of firsthand knowledge of any of that. But during the up, I don't think anybody does August speculating on twenty read on Twitter. But you don't tweet when she smart. So Roger Penske also told us Jerry that his budget for an IndyCar like the top end budget for championship. Indycar would be like I think six to eight maybe ten million at the very ceiling and obviously for a championship caliber Cup car. It's pretty much three times that he is hopeful that twenty twenty one gen seven he believes also that Jensen can be ready by that year that it would bring that cost down significantly number when when you're in those council meetings or when you're talking to Bob and representing him. When NASCAR is our number. You guys would like to see maybe as being a rough estimate of like what a championship caliber budget should be anybody's fixated on a number as much, but I'll say this in our team owner council meetings, you know, and we talk about areas we're gonna race it Mr. Penske in Michigan Assiut are quite outspoken about what they've done in IndyCar. And nobody looks at Indy. I don't think looks at the IndyCar series a spec series one place you go to get your chassis. And and I I don't know all the parts and components very well within the car racing. But I really think that's the direction kind of what's being talked about with the gen seven car dictate the areas that you know, you're gonna race in areas you're not gonna race in and try to drive some costs down. So, you know, listen to those guys that have firsthand experience with that. It seems to have worked where you still have viable IndyCar teams that are still very competitive. And you know, they're racing's been fantastic from what I see the races. I've watched and you know, they've still got a little passionate fan base all observing how they do it. And I think some of those those methods be replicated across our sport. But yeah, the goal would be to certainly, you know, there's so much money spent by the larger organizations like those on orangey and the development side of what we do. So if you're taking away areas of the card that you're going to develop there's got to be less cost in Indiana at think of adventure to say just buy parts and pieces to go on the race car. Tires certainly salaries at think front row probably trades pretty close with oh. A lot of big organizations, but when it comes to Arnie expense. We're nowhere near so that that's the big difference right now. And they're just they're just getting a little bit out of every area the car, and it translates into four tenths at all as AXA, but I would like to hope that that delta can close down a little bit. If they're not able to maximize all these areas of the car. No question. The RND edge is where that comes out on the competition out on the race track. And moving from looking at two three years in the future to twenty nineteen new package this year. But a lot of discussion about that about if it would help small or medium-sized teams such as yourself you're at front row motorsports. How do you think that's impacted you guys during has it had? And we've certainly seen Michael McDowell Daytona and not just there. But he's he's qualified. Well, and I I'm sure you've been pleased with some of the speed and your other cars as well. But you know, JT g Doherty has shown flashes and Richard Childress racing. Which is. Knocked VIN quite to the elite status they've shown flashes and qualifying and during races. I don't know if it's if it showing so much in the ultimate results. But you feel as if the new package is helping smaller teams a little bit this year. I think it potentially can you know, we've just had things we gotta clean up that are kind of self inflicted. Whether it's costing ourselves. Practice time not getting through the week before. And you sacrifice some time and happy hour, and and or just doing having a silly thing wrong on the car for a practice session and had a convert crazy thing with throttle pedal that bent and kinda got stuck on Michael at Phoenix. And when he got in the wall, and so it's kinda hurt our end of day performance. But I think the potential is air for a smaller team, and I really have paid attention to the JT cars for sure especially the thirty seven car has has really showed a lot of great speed. And then watching the children's cards in and that's the thing. Everybody's kind of building into their cars or you build them like speedway cars or you build them more to just maximize downforce. And what I hear is that the children's cars are have. A little more on the aero side. And they've showed fantastic speed in practice and qualifying. But maybe not as much in the race. And so I almost think our cars lean that way too because our cars qualifying well, but maybe not race in that as well. Those are all things that we're all looking at with this new package of what is it is it handling is just raw speed, and we have access to send data which is fantastic tool to. I think if I was driver, you know, where you can just basically overlay your laps against anybody else's laps at anytime in practice or qualifying or the race. And and it's really interesting. The engineers will show me kind of our drivers compared against each other or compared against the faster cars out there or the other. Ouch cars and the difference in driving styles. And and, you know, not really only really try to pay attention of our guys against our guys are guys against the routes cars knowing that similar similar packages. But man, they're all over the place. They tried to car. So, you know, last week at Phoenix I felt like our best car through practice and qualifying was Matt tiff and he had his first top two. Twenty and he was off the break a lot more knows other guys were so that's been a trend. It seems like is who can stay off the break the most. And that's going to be who gets her car driving the best in handling the best, and you know, momentum keeping the momentum up like they do in the truck series is key. And so I think that's keeping your foot off the brake. You know, we've just gotta get them handling where the drivers can keep their foot off the brake and just keep the momentum up. And and I think we'll be successful and seventeen had a great run at Vegas. I think it was. And and he was awesome in barely on the break at all. And and maybe not so good at Phoenix. But he's on pray a lot. So so it it just I'm just a dummy that sits up here in the second floor and much, but it sure seems to correlate into speed with this package. So, you know, we're we're working real hard with it. I think trying to build more downforce into the cars and really work on at handling. And if it means we qualify twenty fifth instead of the sixteenth Soviet. So when you see all that driver, data being overlaid? I guess the takeaway is there are many different ways. Geena cat and the gorilla is there really is. And you know, just looking at our three drivers may, and they were all three very, very different and Phoenix. And and I'm not saying Matt's way was the best. Right. You had the most speed. You know, we I think his crew chief Mike Kelly in him they came up with a good package and Matt since I started really following them last year. He he does seem to excel it these the Phoenix Richmond type track. And but like you said, there's there's different ways skin cat. You know, I think there's a lot to be learned through just kinda comparing yourself versus the other guys. And I go back to last year at the Royal Michaels. Michael McDowell excellent road course driver and happy hour was really really frustrated with kind of how he was getting off one of the corners. And and I know he he was following somebody on the track and came over who it was to somebody. And he went in looked at Mt date, and it might have been the first practice on Saturday, and and trove just like to exit the next practice in man. He was he was awesome. Then he's back to Michael McDowell road course. So, you know. And I have seen. Our drivers are really utilize that tool as much as anything, and or you can look at data for any driver doesn't matter if they're part of your alliance or team manufacturers and correct you mentioned to Jerry the seventeen of Ricky Stenhouse junior and I'm somewhat remiss and neglecting to say he's been impressive to the the alliance. You guys out with rush Fenway racing. Probably coming off last year. People would've said, I don't know about that this year. Certainly do you feel like it is making you guys faster because it seems like yeah. Certainly that Rosh cars was having some success. Yeah. I think so too. And and beyond Ricky think Ryan Newman's been really good too and bring in Scott graves back into the rash camp from Gibbs certainly didn't get any dumber being in the fan. And and so I think he's brought a lot of great ideas. And he was really sharp guy that you know, we were almost going to work with on the Chris butcher program. But didn't but the six car, I think that you know, it was very unstable last year with Trevor and Matt and was just seemed like there's always something that was just not cohesive there. And but. I I think the six is is really solid right now and contributing a lot back and forth with seventeen and and and certainly with Brian Patty and Stenhouse being together, I think three years now they've they've really had a law speed. So it's it's always been a really good relationship. Even before we had in the lions with Rosh Fenway. We bought a lot of used cars and used parts from them. And we fired several people, you know, Donnie WinCo came from there right now all three of our crew chiefs. I think it was like six seven or eight years ago. We're all rouses committee crew chiefs at the same time, you know, in the system works. Yes. They know the system, and they kind of know each other's personalities quite well. And we've got this year. I really really enjoyed standing back and kind of watching the the three crew chiefs interact 'cause there is relationships there with all three of them that go back ten years, and and and with this product and with the Ford product, and the Ford engineering tools, and and, but they, you know, like drivers they've got their own way of doing it, you know, and and Mike Kelly. Is very hands on more. I would say like an old school crew chief of worked his way up the ladder to be a car chief into a crew chief, and he loves being around that car and and cabinets hands on it. And Seth Barbara that said David Reagan's crew chief, you know, he's an engineer, and he's running sim, and he's kicking ideas back and forth as engineer and kind of lets his car chief handled the car and ju- Blake and stir for came to us. And he just brings a he's a super type a personality and a lot of great experience and several Cup wins under his belt. And and he's he's really brought a passionate and a fire to thirty four crowd and been a lot of fun to to have involved too. So it's a it's a good crew chief lineup we, you know, we just got to figure out the speed in the car where we need to speed in the cars, the drivers all seem their interact. Very well. And you know, Matt brings his youthful enthusiasm to the program and in a very openness how he's going to approach each track, which is nice to see. And and hopefully opens up David and Michael to maybe look at things different. To with this new package to you mentioned the enthusiasm and fire that drew Licken stir for brings to the number thirty four, which of course, is driven by Michael McDowell. I think fire is something that has been used to describe Michael McDowell times this year fiery, particularly after Daytona and Phoenix qualifying going back to Daytona. Jerry, Michael McDowell has a great run. There has the great finish. Of course. After the last restart. He and Joey Logano exchanged words, Mark rush. Brooke went on Sirius XM and said as two four drivers we'd be intermediaries here and step in and hash things out. What was the front row perspective on all of that? I say, you know, my my personal perspective watching the big screen win. The last lap was going on, you know, and I will Michael's move and turn three and I kind of question it myself. Why didn't you go at the twenty two and heck I can't put myself in the driver's shoes. And I honestly I just think Michael he had been working with Bush there. They get to that point. And Joey kind of pushed him to lead a. Started to before an quickly pulled out from behind them and really caused Michael to have to shuffle get up to the middle. And then worked his way back up. And I think he worked with Kabul, and and new that him in college together were pretty good pair, and he just thought his best play was going to be with the momentum with Kyle. And I think it's just those last minutes instantaneous decisions of the driver makes and maybe doesn't necessarily think I'm there to help the Ford guy. You know, I'm, you know, Michael, he he got car, you know, where you're talking about it. And you know, he said hell, I'm not here to help David Ragan met tift or anybody winner racing. I'm hearing a winter as myself and Michaels, a fiery passionate guys we've kind of seen the last few weeks. And that's that's why we hired him. You know, he's he's really out there to to make it happen and not just settle for twentieth place, or whatever he's just trying to get everything he can and scratch and claw. And when we hired him. I said man, I'm just glad you're only going push one of our cars around this year 'cause both around for years. And you know after Daytona, you know, everybody's question. Why didn't you help the twenty two and? You know, I think he he regretted it that. Yeah. Probably should have. But you know, those things happen. And it didn't seem like those guys that enthusiastic about helping us win the race either. So, and I still say you turned the tables if it's the other way around nobody would've ever said our word that Joey Logano didn't help Michael McDowell. So just because it was the way it was you know, it suddenly became an issue for a few days that for Michael had to deal with. I've it gets a fair point that some fans make as well as to why should manufacturer alliances matter so much guys both get support from Ford. Yeah. Penske gets probably more support than and Stewart Haas, obviously, that's well documented they get more support than other four teams do probably including rash. But certainly you guys how does that play into it? I mean does Mark rush Burke, call you or just like I got intervened in some sort of Ford meeting to say, look, we know you're all driving our brand. But we also understand you're all trying to win on your own too. Yeah. Oh, for sure for sure marks great with it and Pat DeMarco and they traditionally. At tone on. I think maybe the other speedway tracks to they'll have a a meeting with the four drivers. So I'm not a part of it. But you know, kinda here what said is basically look out for each other. Don't do anything to you know, harm your fellow Ford guy, and we get to the last couple of apps. All gloves are off you gotta do what you gotta do the win. And you know, different. I think they tone onto second to last the next to last restart Clint Boyer could've pushed Michael up there. Instead, he tried to make it three wide and and clear himself in front of Michael. And cause a big wreck. And I don't know this. But I don't think Clint boy was called to the Ford truck to get yelled at cost a big melee, but he was looking out for his own best interest. Or you know, he didn't wanna follow Michael McDowell and try to win this race of the year service, man. That's everybody's trying to do. But I think the big message is, hey, let's look out for each other. And then we get to the end the race. You know, it's every man for himself. And I think the only concern that Ford might have had was just the visual of it. Looked like Michael went. Alvis way not to help toilet Gano. And and and in my heart. I don't think that was Michael's intent. He thought his best move was to follow Kyle Busch. Pass those guys in in pushing past any and the optics. Didn't look good last corner last lap. I think Mark spin to such a huge supporter front remoter sports and does so much for our team in. We've got a good place with four that we really enjoy. And I hope we we bring value to them. And you know, so I I don't wanna do anything to disappoint those guys. And but he understands that it's an heat a battle. And I think his only concern was you know, was where we purposely not helping and and I don't think that was the case at all speaking of heat of battle. We're speaking here on Thursday between Phoenix and Fontana and almost a week. After Michael McDowell was involved in hit skirmish after buying with Daniel Suarez. It's kind of unusual jury to have front row drivers in the middle of a controversy like that that was pretty much the story of the weekend going into the race. So how's that work for you guys? I am somewhat of subscriber to. There's no such thing as bad publicity. And is that an example of that for that team in for this organization that like, hey, Mike mcdown front row? Got in the headlines. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's the publicity you really want. You know? But it happened. You know, and I think again, it shows how passionate Michael is as upset as Daniels. Warez was that you know, Michael impeded his lap. Michael really felt like what Daniel did the following lap could wiped out a race car? You know, maybe heard a driver, you know, it was it was pretty bad. And and then you hear the audio the spotters coaching them on when Michaels coming and how to purposely get them out of his lane. And and so it could have been bad. And that's what Michael was upset about Michael was very upset about it. I was shocked as anybody, and I wasn't there. I was watching on TV when I see Michael going through for the throat there. And and and seeing group pickup Daniel stories. Yeah. The the whole thing was that was something else in and very out of character for Michael without a doubt. We try to sell Michael is the good guy. The good Christian driver that? With gala sponsorship, and he literally wears Christianity on sleeve, and in so certainly very out of character. And and, but I I think shows the passionate he has. And I'm sure if he had that one the do over again, he probably wouldn't. But you know, he was very very very upset at the time. And I think he just turned around and saw Daniel coming in thought Daniel was coming to fight. But yeah, that was that was probably an unfortunate incident that I don't know that we really would seek out that kind of publicity, but it happened. And but I know I had different folks in my little orbit of comes at now. Love that fired. I doubt. That's why people watch racing passion boils over in ways. You can't control. Exactly, right. Yeah. We'll we'll in here. Then like certainly want to add a fourth drivers. So you can have even more. But looking for Jerry you've expanded to three cars this year, you mentioned about Bob positioning himself in a way that could look good for if manufacturer comes in or if Ford decides to to expand the relationship here. What what does the future hold? Do you think beyond twenty nineteen right now for front row any chance that you guys might look at another car at some point another fourth car? Yeah. I don't know. I don't think. So, you know, I guess the rules would say we could or biting off a lot right now to do what we're doing. And I won't say that we've got all the funding we need to do we do in in in Imbaba kind are backstop for that. So, and you know, I my goal since I've been working for him to get him to not be the backstop for what we need to go race with. And so I I don't know. I mean, you never say never I I'm sure down the road. That would be a goal. Bob's. If we're ever position to have a fourth car, but for civil future we are where we're at. And we just got solidified all the funding around these three cars, honestly, and and be able to maintain that long term. And so that's more gold in anything. And with Ford we we've been with them for ten years now. And so that's that's just a been an incredible relationship that really began with Doug gates and row sheets, and they've been a huge ally. To to everything we do, and, you know talk in the garage. I you know, I feel like our? Ship for where we are in the grand scheme of things is really pretty good compared to some others. And that's because of people like Mark rush. Brooke that see the value of having front row motorsports in the camp. And I will say our drivers do a lot of behind the scenes development work was stimulators. And we'll force cars and things like that to try to bring some value back into the overall program for Ford. And and so we've we've really enjoyed that relationship for a long time. And you know, not what I would love to see more anything, especially if more OEM's gotten a sport if somebody bolted from the fort camp, and we were able elevated step up, and and because they're a great partner to have for. Sure. Okay. Well, we'll certainly keep an eye on that in the future again with this gen seven car and see how it will impact you guys, Jerry. Always appreciate your candor, your honesty, thanks for coming on and spend so much time on the NASCAR and BC podcast once again, my pleasure Nate, thanks again to Jerry freeze a lot of insight into what it's like being a mid pack team in the Cup series. As Jerry mentioned ten. Years invested in NASCAR at front row motorsports for team owner Bob Jenkins. So it'll be intriguing to see if that team can get to that next level. And we appreciate Jerry giving us a window into that journey for front row motorsports. Thanks as well to Jeff Denison and Lynn at front row motorsports for helping coordinate that conversation at the team's new shop in mooresville. The NASCAR podcast is available on Stitcher Spotify Google play apple podcasts or wherever you download your podcasts. Please leave us a rating and review if you like what you're hearing that really helps us out, and there will be many good things coming down the pike here on the NASCAR and ABC podcast not going to jinx it until you who they are. But I promise they'll be several appealing guests upcoming through the next several weeks with personalities from NASCAR IndyCar and IMSA. So we always appreciate the support. And we'll continue to try to bring you those conversations. And as always if you have any feedback for. Me you can send it to me on Twitter. At nate. Ryan is my handle thanks again. For listening to the NASCAR on NBC podcast.
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In The Draft Show: Jimmie's Paint Scheme - NASCAR News
"Dr. Do one. Green green Fokin like hell now. Coming down. Don't do anything. Hey, welcome. Everyone to end the draft with Wilson. And was I'm Wilson here in kind of cold, rainy, southern California. Meanwhile, right across the NFL meter beautiful studio of the Kotas version two point zero Mr. Scotty is what's going on? There wasn't ship boys. Scotty wants draft show. Well, sub YouTube. It's your boy. What's up? What's up drafters voice? Scotty was here for another episode. I highly encourage everyone if you do enjoy the show smash that like button for me just smash like but chat subscribe button and get that. For the first. You could be pulled position with the first notification. Frickin youtube. We got we have to get on YouTube. We have to start doing something on YouTube. So we can tell people this mash the like button. Yes, we'll do the splashing go this year. We'll have to create up thing. And then we'll do things it's going to be great, by the way. It's also warmer in most parts of Alaska than it is here in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta start doing some travelling, unfortunately for work the next three weeks. And and then they were talking about boss was talking about going to the middle of nowhere in Alaska. Not like Alaska like, you know, like Joe Asia. No Alaska, talking like, there's nothing, but like permafrost Alaska like, hey, you're in the middle of a national park in the government shutdown. You're on your own, right? Yeah. What happens with that? Holy crap. Because it is in the middle of Yukon national park. Fortunately, my coworker was all excited, and I wanna go I've I've only been to Alaska once is going to be great. I'm like, you have fun. Tell me how it was. And I realized Diomede the Diomede islands. It actually means in the in the native language of those Alaskan folk the other one these shoes they are the others from lost. Indeed. So yeah, the so little Diomede is the is the is the US one big Diomede is right off of that line. And that's the Russian really. So they can literally just like, you know, like toss supplies back and forth between Russia and the US. Now, do you think that the people on the Russian side can call the WalMart and have stuff dropped ship. That were airlifted to the Marquette only the US people, call the WalMart. It's only the US peop-. Yeah. Yeah. I would think to understand the people that call center anyways. I know. Yeah. Yeah. That's us. Not where they're sending the other guy who works with me, though, that great if they get though if they did I would almost volunteer to go just because I wanted to see it. But then once I got there. I would severely regret that decision. My God, man. All right. So we've got some NASCAR I guess talk about a little bit. And we should we should say programming note next week. We will be not doing. Yeah. And that I can I can tell everybody why about that. Because I have traveled for three weeks normally travelling doesn't really affect the show rarely does. But usually we find a way to get it done. But next week I'm going to the mothership to the home office. Right. And they've got the company they can't give me a raise has an apartment there where the where the home offices, and they're like, oh, well, you know, when you come over, you can stay at the apartment, you know, instead of having the by hotel, which is actually I guess kind of. Okay. But it's not just me. It's me and my boss and one of my co workers, and it's a three bedroom apartment. So essentially, it's going to be like the real world. That's fantastic. Yeah. And I was like the last thing I want to inject into the real world is us trying to talk about NASCAR. While they're outside out in the. Living room drinking and running in circles or something like that. And they'll go into confessional booth and be like that Wilson. He's always in there talking about as NASCAR. Maybe maybe we should do it. And I'll have him on the show fantastic. I would love it be more entertaining. What we normally do. I'm sure no doubt. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's get the horrible horrible news out of the way. I on JD Gibbs. It was announced this week. If you haven't heard passed away at forty nine years old this week as I'm sure longtime fans. No, he was one of the guys who really he really was the guy running the ship or drive steering the ship at at Joe Gibbs racing in the early days from nineteen Ninety-seven, although up to two thousand fifteen I mean, it was Joe Gibbs his team and coaches still involved. But really was it was JD's thing. And j b really kind of made sure that they had all the right parts that they needed to be able to be successful. And he brought in all the right people to and I don't think he gets enough credit for that. And and you know, could Joe gives have been successful without JD running. Yeah. Probably, but JD certainly made life a lot easier and everybody who came into contact with them said, you know, this is a stand up guy is a really great guy. And fortunately he had to resign in two thousand fifteen. Teen as president because they said that he that they were very unclear about it. But they said he was having a neurological issues. Well, it turns out he had a degenerative neurological condition that to this day. They're not one hundred percent. Sure. What the cause of it was. But he played football in college. He race cars, obviously before they started the team. And so it was probably from some sort of head impact or repeated head impacts that he ended up this way. And unfortunately, it took his life. So it's really sad thing. Yeah. You know, a great guy by all accounts. And yeah, I mean, I think people don't they see the Joe Gibbs name, but the catalyst kinda was JD in this whole. I mean, you look at the the people that he brought in. I mean, Denny Hammond was the guy was a big guy. He brought into this whole event to and you know, the fact that you know, he was like I see something in this kid and look at where Denny Hamlin is now like he is probably one of the cornerstones. Of the Joe Gibbs industry and forty nine years old definitely super super young now. And yeah, it sucks like it's a it's a crappy situation. But what he what little he had here on this earth? He did a lot with and he made the most of his time. Yeah. And I think, you know, the raising humidity, obviously, loved them as much as they could, you know, with, you know, outpouring of things, and there's also a a a nice little trust looks like legacy fund established in his honor as well. Yeah. They're doing school. Yeah. They're doing a charity that I think the money goes to young life. So there's information on NASCAR dot com. If you want I think, I think they have it up on this car dot com. Still if you want to find out more about it. But but yeah. In the coolest part about j J Gibbs that we don't see anymore. Although Joe's pretty good about it. But he can't make it ever but JD gives every single race. And I mean back in the day was rekindled. It was Jack roused me. Those guys were that was what you would do. But in more recent years, that's become less thing. You know, they're races where Hendrick motorsports wins. But you know, we're Kendrick there or Jack Rouse's and there when Hendrick motorsports because rushing everyone's you know, but Emmer children's same thing. Sometimes he's not there. But JD Gibbs was there every single weekend and helping to run that team. So yeah, it's it's definitely a big loss for them in in spirit. You know, but before jobs gives racing will be able to move on from here, and they'll continue to be one of top organizations in the sport. So they lose a brain trust. But at the same time, I mean, the fact that what he was able to lay down xactly advance a lot of guys careers, and you look at where the the whole J G R places. Now who knows what it could have been if JD wasn't. They're trying to do the business side of things after he retired from racing. I mean that a very. Unheralded guy when when you look at the the grand scheme of things and only now do we have to have the chance to appreciate him. So it it's gonna be interesting to see him without the track. It'll be interesting to see how how the team honours in the season. I'm sure they'll have to they're going to have something on all their cars for the year. And you know, I didn't even really think about it too much until this story came out. And I was like, you know, like Joe Gibbs racing is there last ones to really well. They're not the last ones. But the I mean, too when you think about what they started with him what they were able to do. I mean, the the major major teams in the sport Childress been around. Forever rash? Been around forever. You'll Hendrick been around forever. Chip Ganassi, maybe not NASCAR, but had been around forever and jobs came from another sport from an entirely, different sport. And he and J B Were able to build up this organization to where it. Is one of the best in in NASCAR? And the only other. I mean obviously furniture row, but that that's coming on reading. It was only one car operation. The only other one that kinda like that is Stuart off because gene Haas came in from eight kind of outside of the sport. I mean, he was still selling CNC equipment, and he was still in the manufacturing business. He was still in the mechanical business, but outside of gene Haas coming in and being able to make something Big Joe Gibbs was really the last person the the only person other gene Haas to come in from totally outside the sport and be able to build something that big and it's because he had the sports half like JD running the show. Yeah. I mean once you have the right people to run the business side. It's all you need now. All right. So let's move on and talk about Jimmy Johnson. They unveiled the paint scheme for the ally of financial car. And I didn't know they were going to do this. I was actually a little impressed by the whole thing. I mean. Yeah, it was all because ally paid. The money. Right. But they were on good Morning America. Like they unveiled the paint scheme on national TV and on non or non partner of NASCAR. That's true. Yes. Yes. Exactly. It was it wasn't on NBC. And it wasn't on FOX. What do they good Morning America's I think, they're ABC? Yeah. They're ABC. Yeah. But you know, it's weird because a couple couple of weeks back the other other show I do on is on motorcycle racing and a couple of weeks back one of the big stars. You know, this this big star has a team of his own at one of the lower levels. And they unveiled the paint scheme for the slower level team on the Italian version of the voice, or you know, whatever's got tallow one of those popular reality shows X-factor something like that. I was like man that's pretty big. I mean, that's a national TV show. That's how much those people, you know, love motorcycle racing. I mean, obviously, the sponsor was skysports. And so this is sponsored something to do with it. But still, you know, they said, okay. Right. And then a couple of weeks later, I'm like man Jimmy this pretty big Jimmy Johnson. They'll this paint scheme on national television. I guess in some small part, especially since it wasn't a network that shows NASCAR in some small part. Like there, there's at least a little bit of a belief on the part of you know, major media that NASCAR still has some sort of value. The people would be interested in that. Yeah. I mean, especially you go to a place like GM who has a big following viewers. So a lot of is on it. Weird. I know it's a wheel in a little we're a little unusual little wacky. Yeah. But cool I like the scheme. I liked the colors. I think purples underutilized the NASCAR. Fancy lowest looks like the huddle was looks like a nineteen seventies. Like like TV station like NBC, the peacock FIS in the one. I think it's slick looking car, but the funny part about this whole thing. Did you hear the story behind this? No. So apparently, this this scheme had been in the works forever. This scheme after it was announced was in. We saw it before. Apparently. We did. Yep. In recent Instagram post, Jimmy and the people that work with him in a social media hid elements of the car in Instagram post. I did see that. Yep. That's ins, that's next level stuff. And they didn't make any reference to it at all. You're absolutely ready. Did see that? No. And that's I'm like damn but slick like a picture of his kidnapping and in the back like coming poking out from behind the building there's nose of the car. Yeah. Yeah. No. That was that was pretty good Stewart burnouts, and there's the no even. More of a nose and they're driving in the infield. And there's even more of the car just like TAT's fantastic. I know it's you don't see like NASCAR teams or NASCAR in general being creative on social media or anywhere. Really? So no, no, I agree with you on that. And I do I saw a couple of people that were kind of knocking the paint scheme saying it was boring or weird or stupid. I dig it too. I think it's all right. I agree that it has kinda like that throwback quality to the way that they put the logo on the hood. But I like the colors the sponsors really clear and easy to see. No, they kept the car dark. So they could use the same forty eight that you know, that he became known for it Loews. Yeah. I think the car looks decent man. Yeah. The iconic yellow on the on the numbers on the door and on the hood, pretty nice. And also like we said the retro in the front, but it's got that weird like cool modern apple in the rear quarter panel to the apple with the a and the and the gradients on that. So it's kind of a more modern, look, I think it's it's a nice. It's a nice mixture. I think it's a nice change. And then the question becomes does. It change Jimmy Johnson. After what happened last season? You know, that is the big question that we don't know the answer to I would hope that, you know, having a new sponsor having a new crew chief injects a little bit of energy into the whole system because Jimmy knows now that you know, he's not invincible when it comes to those sponsors. And so to have somebody say, we're gonna sponsor you for the whole season that that's utera to confidence. And so I would think that he will be able to step up to the challenge. And it's not like Kevin Mundaring is coming from outside the organization. So the fact that he knows what the organization is all about. I think is going to help smooth over that transition. And I mean, they got to do something because you know, this one they got bailed out on with full year sponsor, but if he tanks again, and they're like sorry. You know, we we're gonna pay this kind of money we need wins. He might not have is easy of time. The next time around. No, absolutely. This is really hey now, we got plan. Now, we gotta work on a jumbo. We gotta get things done speaking sponsors. Yes. I know you're you're not fond of motorsports dot com. Yeah. No, motor sport, documentaries dot com. They then it's not like it's just that a they they wanna charge people for reading articles. You can get that stuff pretty much anywhere. They do have a couple of things that are unique MVP they love love love, click bait titles. They love the sensationalize non stories. That's that's the big five with them is. I hate it. When I see title. And I'm like is this oddest? It is. I'm like, oh, jeez. I'm sure they're just making up crap again, and like somebody they'll take some of the entirely out of context, and that'll be like this huge headline plastered all over the website. But go ahead. Sorry on the on the top sponsorship. They had a nice little story. Jim utter put out there about. Gusting gusting. I don't he is going to he drove by the past two season ARCHE is going to be in the gander outdoors NASCAR truck series this year. And he's got a new sponsor, and he's got a pretty big sponsor. L G will be on the truck next season for gusting Elchi. What's g g the Tron tropics? Wow. Okay. Yeah. Right. Also, L L G H fac will be on the car next year. Now, it's the first time LG will have sponsorship into NASCAR. And they have and uttered goes ahead. And dissect about how this deal came to be because remember while back L G was one of the ones that people were rumored about over. They're going to be title sponsor and be title sponsor. But they're on a truck of rookie that that's an interesting way to get into the sport. You would think a company with that kind of money, and that kind of size will want to be on with the major driver. The L G people including Kevin McNamara who is the senior VP in general managers of the LG brand of air conditioning technology said that they even though the pitched much he's a lot the personal the personal side of it, which is deans gusts father and Gus sitting down talking about their passion talking about this that and the other thing in a personal connection. They got made l g get on board with Lale, especially with the fact that it's a first venture with a new a new team. I think I don't think this team's run before new driver mall. This other things. And MacNamara said we could sponsor anything we want it to any sport a bit. It's about the people. It's business, of course. But if you're not associated with the right kind of folk then there's no point in doing it, then with NASCAR with as big as NASCAR is still very personal repeal relate to drivers people relate to teams, the good thing for us for LG to be a part, if it is a big of it is a big, plus, well, if they're into that kind of thing, then can I just point out just for the people that I'm sure listening that both the Woz man, and I have L L G L G phones yet you boy, you got the G seven got the seven, man. I've I I've got the three now I don't I don't use the three anymore, but I have it. And I still would prefer to be using it. If the batteries to work that would would still be using. 'cause I love the buttons on the back. Listen, I got the three I got the five. I got the seven year boys odd hit that light button for some odd. I know so maybe they want to sponsor us. Exactly. Let's make. Connection. But yes, nice little story about how just the personal relationship, and how, you know, a family sport. It can be also LG says they prosper off of this. Because of the fact that during the upcoming, and I didn't know this is the thing international air conditioning heating, refrigeration, exposition Lanta, the headquarters of LG will have the truck per pronouncedly, displayed prominently displayed. Yeah. There for the conference. I go to that conference every other year, right? Sure. I get because. Expensive. If you do it every year, and I mean, how much can heating cooling and refrigeration be extending and to one year time. Well, you know, I mean, they're gonna give it every other year. They're pushing the boundaries, man. I mean, they've got guess so good news super coolants. They've got like like fans that blow air on things. They habits on on refrigerators now s moving even use fire. It's very controlled fire. But these fire no explosions, though, only explosions, right? My biggest thing is is why do I need internet on my? On your refrigerator? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. And TV put the TV's on the refrigerator to. Yeah. It's pretty weird. It's a weird situation. We got going on here. And you know, I know somebody who has an LG refrigerator that has a sparkling water that comes out of it. And you can't find him anymore, man. So awesome. That's boozy is. It's awesome. Oh, I didn't even know. I like sparkling water until I tried it from J M like a love this stuff in it's free. You just keep hitting the little button there. And it just keeps coming out like people hit that like button. Exactly not gonna let this go until we get a YouTube show. And then you get Niger because we're gonna need to say that. And then I'll get sick of it. And be like, oh, if we get can how many subscribes you need to get to get a plaque. I wanna get a plaque from YouTube one hundred thousand. How close are you to that? Oh god. Now where I think maybe that's a real good question. Actually, maybe wanna wait. Maybe we get in with L g than than they can help us push that and get to that hundred K's, we get the plaque. Don't worry. We'll order to versions of the plaque. So you can have one and I know each of the studios a c switch account hundred twelve subscribers to the faceoff Ocoee show at one hundred and twelve ahead of us. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, well, also, I don't know if we can be a head if there's no account. Well, I mean, we have zero. So, you know, you're one hundred twelve closer to get in that the plaque air it is. That's what it's going to be so plaque on the wall. Okay. So then we went from a terrible story to start. Then we went to pretty cool story, which Johnson the unveil and everything and then to the G thing. Let's bring it back down again. Because apparently NASCAR where what they're telling everybody outwardly. Oh, everything's great, man. There's no problems at all the sport. I'm more excited about the sport than ever. Well reports are that last week this past week NASCAR laid off anywhere from quote, dozens to up to fifty people NASCAR says that the number was quote, a little less than five percent of our total workforce. Now, I guess they were saying that try minimize it. But anytime anytime at all that you can quantify the number of people you laid off as a percentage of your company. It's a lot of people. I mean, that's out of this show. I mean, like if you leave me off that'd be fifty percent of the employees of the company nascar's few more than that. So even five percent of NASCAR. That's a lot five percent. And this car, man. The hell present a NASCAR. It's a hell of a thing. Honestly, don't care like what you're preparing for if any kind of merger. You need all hands on deck doing damn train. Like it is. I know it's crazy. And so they said that they were doing this imp- reparation for their proposed, but not actually done deal yet merger with ic-, which is barely going to cost NASCAR one point six billion dollars to buy out all the IC stock from all the other people that own it. So the fact that they are so certain that they're going to be able to get ISE or the stockholders, and I see the cell, and they're getting rid of people in what I'm sure are going to be redundant positions. Because they're so certain of it. I mean, they keep saying, oh, no we're committed all the France families committed. They are not committed man. This is what this is exactly what companies do when they're trying to. Cut the fat before they sell what they sell it for what they can get and I'm positive that. This is just one more sign that they're going to sell which is great in the long run sucks for those people that were laid off it's great in the long run. But I really wanna know who they're thinking of selling to now because there's no other reason for them to be doing this to be packaging everything up. I in NASCAR together trimming out all the extra money that they're spending because they're trying to make the books better and the package deal. Look awesome for someone to come in and take it. Yeah. I mean, the biggest thing right now is just is is we got to combine it but goddamn six billion, really. That's what that's what it said. In the in the article, I was reading I don't know. How accurate it is? But. Yeah. I don't know. Because you know, the France family owns still owns a majority share. It's not over fifty percent. I don't think, but they still own the largest share, and the, you know, everything they that's that's one point six or whatever billion without that largest share. So it's amazing to worth that much. Right. I mean, I don't understand what the hell's going on. I mean, I guess I guess the properties worth a whole lot because I'm sure they own all that property, and I guess so I mean, that's probably the I hope that's the reason. I hope so too. Yeah. Because it's not Jesus. So here's a great hose. Here's craziest thing about that. Is that I was planning when I saw that story. And I put it on the the rundown. I was planning on making a joke. What I thought when I read it the first thing I thought when I read the article was oh, wow. They laid off fifty people. I bet somebody's about to get promoted. And then sure enough literally two days later mass car promote some dude so J Abia because everytime that's car f something up. They feel like they can cover it up by promoting someone and that's what they've done J Fabian has been named NASCAR monster energy Cup series, managing director. I don't know if that means they fired the last one or if they just made up a position based on us cars history. They probably just made up that position. He was previously managing director of technical integration. Which means he was in charge of the inspection process. So there you go weird, and they sent out a press release about how excited they are. And how you know Jay Fabien is going to like, you know, make things. Awesome. Again. They didn't say he was gonna make things. Awesome. Hire those people back. No. But these things happen. So I it's like every other person that like every time like there'll be like five people in the stands, whom I got we got we saw five tickets promotes people. Get him out there doing this. And so that's what they've done here. They've they've done something terrible. And then they turned around and promoted somebody to congratulate them for it. All right. What else? Do we got? Front row front row. Yes. Bring up the mood a little bit. So front row motorsports named their crew. Chiefs for two thousand nineteen drew blackened surfer. Yeah. He used to be the criteria last year for Bubba Wallace in the forty three car. He's gonna come over. And he's going to take over the thirty four. So he's going from the forty three to the thirty four conspiracy. Hopefully reversal of fortune for him, right? Right. He'll be working with Michael McDowell. That's a I mean, that's pretty good poll. Wasn't he with Ralph before that? I can't even remember where he was before. I want to say he was with the with Carla where it's oh, that's right. Carl Edwards with rouse. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see where it was. I'm looking right now. Oh, while his nickname is black. I and the thing is he says is quoting the Kapadia. Who knows he says that people call him Blick because it's just a lot easier. I would call him drew. That's just me. I don't know. Let's see Rauch racing. He worked at Carl Edwards work Mark Martin as well and Kevin Kenza. So and that's kind of interesting that he was involved with rush. Because then the next guy they announced is that might Kelly is going to be working on the number thirty sixteen with Matt tift. He comes directly from rouse racing where he was working on their extended program on the number sixty car, of course, that ain't happening this year. And he also was the crew chief for Ricky Stenhouse junior when he won both of his ex series championships. So he comes with a pretty good pedigree as well and from Roche as well. Can can only go up right now. And then David Reagan number thirty car is going to work with south Barbara the same exact guy he worked with last year. And so there you go. No know moving on the fingers there. So I I think it's good that they brought in concert for they brought in Mike Kelly to broaden guys who have experienced at a big time teams have had success before both of them. Have you know, Matt tift, I love that move. I think that's ground over it's gonna work out as well as tift wants to. But I think from front rows perspective. That's a good move. The thing the part that I don't get is David Regan. Michael McDowell man. You can't get many other people. Do you know? I can't remember. There was somebody were talking about a little while back that that didn't have a gig or was looking for a gig. And I was like why don't why don't somebody like fro go with a young up and coming driver instead of you know, instead of going with these guys that it's not nothing against Reagan or Michael McDowell. It's just if you look at what they've done recently whole lot nothing. I mean, I get an Reagan's wanna race before. Whatever. Trevor bayne. What's he done? Yeah. You're not wrong. I don't know who could you get though. That's the problem would wanna ride like that that has increasingly gotten worse like it used to be a place that maybe like we always said was on the rise and consistently on the rise. And then just they often they need an this doesn't exist right now. But they need a down on their luck guy. That's had a lot of success. I mean, you know, I don't wanna say Kurt Busch again because he already ran that route wants and it worked though for furniture row. But somebody like that I mean, maybe not him. But some Jamie Murray Jimmy Murray would have been okay guy. Not great not not as good as me after all curt has won a championship. Right. But but Jamie, MAC would have been an okay guy. Now, I don't think Jamie would have done it. But that's the type of God that they need to go out and get and have that be the anchor not not Reagan Michael McDowell guys who've kinda toted around for a while. And they haven't really done a whole lot needs. Somebody who's done something to come in. And. Help make that program better. Who is it though? That's the pro. I don't know. I mean, I I don't think that he's to Ginny to get something done if they could get call Edwards out of retirement there, you can go, but I'd car when do that it's slim pickings to this. You have to you have to have somebody who is still has some some shelf life, but at the same time. You know is for some reason or another he's a little bit damaged goods. And and you know, they they don't have any other options, you know. And I just don't do that person's Cain though. He just can't physically do it. You know, they they need that Martin ex they need that Kurt Busch before they you know, before they showed up at a place like furniture row. And that's out on who that guy is really don't. I don't think there isn't. I think. I think we've actually surpassed that time that time is over. Yeah. Yeah. Like on not Tony Stewart. Well, not the junior not Jeff Gordon because they wouldn't they wouldn't have done it. But they need somebody in need to find a Mark Martin guy. Right. Can you can you can you be though them well in never actually gotten there? And you know, one could argue that Scott had that opportunity with Clint Boyer. But that you know, flopped miserably, I think that front row if they've found that same type like if he'd gone there if because they're running boards if he'd on the front row instead of having on the Scott now, I don't know was running Fords at that point. But imagine if they were that could have worked that could that could have like produced something decent and by deuce top tens. Yeah. But now look at a no nothing. But that doesn't that opportunity doesn't exist for front row now. So they have to they have to wait until Joe Gibbs racing decides the fire someone else for no reason. The maybe they can pick up that. Yeah. Exactly. Like, hey, listen. Let's go ahead. And they do find themselves like Akabusi like when Kabul was originally Kabushiki like like sixteen year old driving. Yeah. You know, like somebody with all this raw talent. And they just keep shooting themselves in the foot. And then, you know, Joe Gibbs comes in swoops up ends up winning the championship with them. The that guy the Bragg Joey Logano. Yeah. Kinda do. I don't know like it's much easier said than done, I realize, absolutely. Because the problem is is that no one wants to invest in that. Yeah. Yeah. And and then any guy who has that kind of potential still, you know, I mean, you really have to be on everybody's bad side. Because otherwise, you probably would end up getting a better offer them front row, and you wouldn't elect for front row over say, you know, like Gibbs car, or, you know, you know, Richard petty motorsports. Could do that as well. Although with Bubba, I think that really their problem, isn't driver? I think the problem is they need to put more money into the damn program. Kind of you know, and they're nice the hook, right? Like where are you going to get this money? Yeah. Where's this money coming from? So I don't know if there is any kind of like. Quick fix. I don't think there is. I mean, they'd have to get super lucky is really what would have to happen. But the good thing is they do have that tiff now, and I think the tift has some potential, and so if they could get that going and get some sponsors interested, then that might be the vehicle with which they can attract other either young drivers or somebody who does have it a little bit of in a stab history who's willing to take risk. Yeah. But that's the thing is now we just have to get into an in a situation where? It has to be a new leaf. And this is where nascar's marketing team that doesn't exist comes into effect is that they now have to go ahead and figure out how we can work at these guys to come. We have to play the role of intermediary in order to do this. And I don't know if they can. If they have if they have the horses to do that seriously that if they had a bit probably let them go this week. Oh, absolutely. They're gone their way gone, but. I don't know. I think that NASCAR needs to play a bigger part in the in the whole thing. Oh, yeah. Totally. I mean, they should be in. This goes back to what we were talking about a couple of weeks ago or couple of shows ago where if NASCAR really slimmed down things in the Cup series and made a point of only having really good teams only having the best teams in the Cup series. And then if you don't do well, you gotta go down to axe then stuff like this will work itself out. Yeah. Because because if front row or fern fern front row was one of the organizations that made the twenty five or thirty or whatever, however many cars you wanna have in there. Then guys will wanna drive for them and sponsors will wanna be on the car because the guys want to drive for them. So all of that can be solved just by saying. All right. We have some things down. We don't need, you know, forty cars coming out each week when only twenty five or thirty have a chance to win or finish top ten right? All right. I wanna unwanted rehash that whole thing, but still. I think it was fabulous idea. And obviously NASCAR listening because they they're trimming on their side. And they're going to trim on the Cup side after that mojos hope so yeah, God, they'll do make enough money. They can hire those people back. Maybe maybe front row might wanna go get Mike Wallace. Why are we shocked by this to do what the story today? Just came out today that Mike Wallace is definitely running three races, Atlanta, California and Las Vegas in the number fifty two car for Rick ware racing. So that ten times fast, and they also are interested in having Wallace beyond in the car for the entire season. But Wallace has got to go out and find some sort of sponsorship to get this done. He only has a sponsorship for three races right now. Now, the whole thing here is that Rick ware racing has to charter, and they're planning on running two cars, and we are what twenty nine days are we twenty nine days away from the by the time this airs twenty one twenty nine days so days away from the Daytona five hundred and yet Rick ware racing. Doesn't know who's going to drive their charter. Cars. To be fair. I didn't think I don't think they think it would get this far really what they thought the Greg Olding would just show up. They thought that the average. To say we have two cars, we're not gonna get to. Oh, let's that they want to drive this car Ono. I think that's where the point is is they didn't think it would happen this fast. I'm going to I'm going to go to require racing dot com. Do go drivers. Whoa. Here's here's listed drivers everybody. Tim, TIMMY hill. Spencer Boyd Stanton Barrett. Chris Cockram Carlos can try us. He still around and Ricky contrarius, I'm assuming they're related. That's racist. Kevin O'Connell and Cody wear. Hey, now of those they do have truck team and an extended team so of those we know that what maybe to me hill Stanton Barrett. Cody wear have driven in the Cup series before spent has Spencer boy run race. Maybe. Yes, I don't know. Spencer Gallagher has Gallagher has. Yeah. So, you know, I don't understand when that's your driver roster. I don't think you need to the charters. You barely need at one. Charter. I know right. So I'm very confused by this whole situation, especially Mike Wallace. Yeah. And they have let's see. Oh here. Here's a here's an announcement about the second they've acquired a second charter. And we'll feel to Cup cars. They just got this charter announced in January six where they announced January six the fifty one fifty two was purchased from front row motor sports. They got cars from L afar. We talked about all this stuff. They had even though he's not on their list of drivers. The BJ McLeod had the most starts in the require racing car into eighteen. Holy crap. Rick ware racing fielded. Guess how many drivers in two thousand eighteen? Eleven in Cup sixteen different drivers. Wow. And I was thinking I was going on the low end sixteen different drivers. That's crazy. If you have one car, and you need sixteen different drivers just to fill that one car. You don't need a second. Yeah. No. They probably about probably what happened here is they probably bought it from front row, and they figured they could turn around and lease it out the somebody and just get some money for the first year decide what they want to do in the second year, either sell it or maybe do something with it. And nobody wanted to lease it. The must be what happened. That only makes sense. And so they'll see if anything else they'll do run arrives for both of them. And the first one will probably be a very similar situation this year that it was as it was last year. Sixteen drivers are a bunch of driver's doesn't drivers or whatever. And with the second one. You're trying to get Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace's is he's been around while the he had heart surgery while back to. Hey did. Well, you got into that incident to his daughter in the show. Yeah. Yeah. So he's not a spring chicken anymore. But he said he wants to come back if they can get I hope they do get sponge should because I would much rather see a car with somebody and full time than just, you know, whoever shows up with a check in their hand and give week. Yeah. But at the same time check is nice. I guess check. Check in check in in the hand is pretty nice guess, I don't know. Wait a minute. I don't know. Well, checking the hands very nice. Yes. Yes. For us. It is. But I mean when it comes to competition in NASCAR, that's not. I mean, nobody's gonna by themselves of win from Rick ware racing. No, not even require not even require combine a win. You know, CISCO's right back to they would be a prime candidate already in the extend these areas, but they should be spending. All that time and effort and money making a really kick ass xfinity team, especially since have rows to worry about. They don't have a Guinness story about like the playing field is wide open there. It's just JR motorsports. You've got to compete with now. Yeah. So do that. I don't do this do that. Money. They spend on that damn charter. They can put together a kick ass like new program for their their extended team or their truck team or whatever. It just frustrates me. Ryan treks is going to try to qualify for the Daytona five hundred in two thousand fourteen he tried because that was was happy. K b que did he do became? I think the became racing for year in two thousand fourteen that's highly possible. And but he didn't qualify for Daytona. So he's that never actually raised the Daytona five hundred. So he's going to drive the seventy one for Tommy Baldwin. They're coming back part time. They do not have a charter anymore. Even though back in the day. They did. So they're coming back. Ryan trucks coming back. I mean, if you're talking about I don't get a sound kind of hypocritical here because it's just talking about Rick ware racing in them. Like what the hell man, if you're gonna have like an owner comeback and try and make Daytona and a driver trying to a form. I would that's combination. I like to see Tommy Baldwin Brian treks. Let's see what we can do. Yeah. And you just hope the Tommy Baldwin's genius hasn't driven by the wayside either. Yeah. So I mean, we seen that we've seen that many timers always back. He's doing great. Oh, what everything's past them by now, he he says he wants to ultimately go racing full-time again, if you can get something together to do that. He's gonna have to pair with somebody like Ryan treks or some sort of incomer, and then stick to it and get some sort of result. Somehow, you know. Yeah. That's the problem is is you're gonna have to stick to your guns and hope for the best and try to convince golden corral keep going. Yeah. Yeah. So, but if they can if they can get a good finish or to the maybe the parlay in the something who knows? Yeah. I'm speaking of buying rides Joey gays. Going to run time in xfinity the season fantastic idea, by the way, he's going to run a full xfinity. Schedule for 'em B M motor sports than number thirty five then they will also mbmers going to run the sixty six part time in the Cup series case will get some races there. So basically, it's like, hey, if you come in and bring some cash or sponsors or whatever will put you in X car for the full season. And as a reward will put you in the Cup car couple of times, I would much rather see young drivers do that. Instead of what Joey gays has been trying to do which is by crappy rides in the Cup series and finished thirty third. But what else do, you know? Right. Like, they see this trend going, and they're going to be the ones that jump with it as well. I mean, granted mpm not the best in general but him running full Lexi's in there. Probably could mean they're not even great in the series either. I know, but you know, maybe it's a good thing. But it that that's where Joey gays should be right now. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That's that's that's. There's like these young kids the whole NASCAR said that the model's broken the model's broken for the sheer fact that guys like Joey gays and Greg Alden can come in like little experience in a stock car of this size and get a ride. Yeah. It's absurd though. I mean in all honesty, even ride trick should be in the xfinity series right now. Oh, yeah. No. There's no reason. Why right? Sure is another castaway of the Michael Waltrip racing era. But it's like it's like almost you have you should be you should have to complete X cheer. Ryan tricks is twenty six but at the same time, he should clean complete an X amount of lower levels. Now before you jump up to the Cup level. Yeah. That I pitched many year ago when it comes to you have to you can't get into it unless unless you pass X amount. And then they used to that where you couldn't drive a super speedway unless you had a had so many is under your belt in the lower level. They wouldn't give you a they wouldn't give you license for those unless you had done a couple in the lower series. I that was the only one that's the only type of track that they would have that requirement for though, which is wicked dumb. It is it should be across the board that way you should have to have like a half season or something, you know, minus road course, I think road courses when you give a pass to maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. But yeah. So that's what Joe gifts. The last story that have gotten less you have anything else. Die cast list came out, which I was super happy to see. I believe wasn't there. A preliminary list that came out like a couple of months back that we talked about. I think there was probably mid year yelich amid sees one or something like that it seems like it was two days ago. But it was it was a while ago. But then they released the top ten die-cast for two thousand eighteen end of the year. All in and done. Big shocker was man. Five of the top ten spots. Went to Bush. No, no, no. No. No. Well, what did chase Elliott? Yeah. No this kid this kid's he's rocket strapped to them. This is the this is the guy. This is the guy you go with and that's our then beyond that. Okay. Beyond that. This is a top tem. Chase elliott. Chase Elliott now. He's different cars. Chase elliott. Chase Elliott William Byron. Chase elliott. Alex Bowman chase Elliott Jimmy Johnson. Chase Elliott collars and Kevin Harvick. Eight eight of the top ten. Hendrick motorsports. Drivers, they are making Bank off the merge man, dude. And especially surprising considering Byron didn't do too much. Did did a decent amount. I was surprised to see a both of those guys in the list and b both of those guys above Jimmy Johnson. And see both of those guys above some of the chase Elliott cars and Jimmy Johnson's scheme was kind of garbage last year. It was a little wasn't the best. There's nothing write home about. But you almost have to wonder if the William Byron Alex Bowman are just not nostalgia picks as well. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure. Yeah. I think that that's a big thing there too. Yeah. Yeah. Surprise surprise. No Cal Bush. I am too actually. Because remember he was like second in the most popular driver voting. Yeah. So I mean, I'm surprised that people aren't buying his car. Price. Kevin harvick's doesn't have a couple in their. He's only got the one all the way down the Bush, beer one. I'm and only one of these skin through list right now. Only one of those cars was a in the top ten was a Darlington car. Chase Elliott in the hooters interesting. Yep. Yep. By the way. Speaking of Darlington cars, I saw one sixty four the method no car with the Jeff Burton Plum. Pretty slick made those may one of those. I saw it's fantastic. Oh, yeah. No, no Miller lite car. No, wreckage Laskey, no, joy Lugano's. But but I think the Luganda I I don't have a hard time buying that. Joel ex Nomar tricks exactly very popular driver. And yet people weren't buying his stuff. The only thing that because break Laskey neither here nor there when it comes to like say popular driver voting. But that's that's scheme is so iconic that that usually that would be enough to sell cars. I would think but you had the biggest biggest prize from me is William Byron third on that list. But I think you've paid it. I think people were buying the twenty four because that it was the exalted scheme. And so it looks exactly like the Jeff Gordon car. So yeah. And you just get it that way and and hope for the best. So I mean, interesting still picks. Yeah. I mean, it it shows where people put their money and all three of those five chase Elliott our win card. Yeah. So there's special schemes that way as well. Most of them are normal schemes Napa scheme for chase Elliott executive for William Byron nationwide for Alex Bowman lows for Jimmy Johnson credit one four color Bush beer for Kevin. But like you said three of them are the chase Elliott win cars. And then one is the chase Elliott Darlington car. I know right. They have. Okay. So if you're NASCAR, I mean, this this means something, you know, because this is more than just people's voting online because you know, if you're a rabid chase the fan of there's a chase Elliott fan club. They could go and stuff the ballot vote every day. Right. But this is people putting their money where their mouth is. And I mean, if your NASCAR don't you? I I mean, I guess they've been pushing him, but don't you up the ante on that a little bit? Don't you piss off Kabul's more by making it even more about chase Elliott now to these got wins. And you know, people are spending money on his stuff. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, it goes to show. I would love to see. That's what it was was merchandising sales was the other one. So that would be hats shirts, everything else. Like, oh, that's that's right. That's what we were talking about before. Uh-huh. Lost my train of thought what the hell you're talking about whether or not NASCAR should should upped the ante on marketing, which aren't getting well, I mean, you can only do so much marketing to like I mean, especially now that it's back on their own. And I think you also have to think the third parties are into this because fanatic should have done their part a little better. Lionel racing can only do so much with die-cast like in terms of advertising. That's that's I think that's kind of stalwart thing. Now NASCAR really has to push. I mean, remember back in the day. We had everyone all the special schemes like had a big unveiling had a big thing behind him. And and now, I don't get the same vibe for these special schemes like their unveiled on you know, just nowhere. They're just they just pop up. There's no pomp and circumstance. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, they do that for the Darlington race. But that's it. That's it. Yeah. Like, what was it? The Richmond race was always like the for two years. It was the looney tunes race. And they had an announcement at Richmond unveiled all the cars, and it had been made a big to do about it. Now, it's just hey, this is this is a sponsor of the race. And hey this race teams running or these race teams are running a spa special one. Here's what it looks like on paper. Yeah. I think the last time because they had the teenage mutant ninja turtles ones last year. Whatever and that one they didn't do such a big thing for the last one that I remember them like making really big deal about was the was the superman Batman one. Right. Even then that they mean. Okay. The about that. But not like, I'm even like, I said the teenage mutant ninja turtle ones this year. They didn't make that big of a deal about because those cars were for crappy crappy drivers there in crappy teams those paints, and that's just because they didn't have any loyalty to their brand. Right. And again as good as having a sponsorship in it is it kind of handcuffs you if they don't want a special sponsor because they have the thing that they like on the car right now. And I think that that's that's a big to do as well. I mean when you look at look back at the Dale Dale Earnhardt days, he didn't have many specials team. So and it was a big deal any had a special. Absolutely, definitely. So I mean, it's it's I don't know. It's a situation where I think NASCAR does need to do more. But I think marketing across the board needs to be done more. Yeah. You know, there was a there was a story. In fact, they put up on NASCAR dot com, which is new by the way shirts sills crappy is ever though. But but they put up a picture of Ryan Blaney on the set of banged PI. And I'm sure it's going to be terrible. But but that's the need do that kind of stuff with chase Elliott. I think don't you. He doesn't have that personality though. I guess not. That's the problem is is that he's like his dad is dead. Had a little bit of personality is a very stoic, man. Very very few on words, the Hollywood him up a little bit. Yeah. I mean, but yeah, I don't think you can smell of it was funny. I was watching like something YouTube recommended me smash like button bell. Is that Bill Elliott came out in the number eleven Budweiser car during speaks or something they had to do all they could to get out of him. Like, hey, what's this receding here? Like, he just he drove the car into the makeshift studio. Got out got a round of applause. Darrell Waltrip was there. It was amazing. And then they just kind of had a force them that say what's happening. And then the I think the same personality is with his kid, even though he's younger, you know. On a different trajectory. But I don't think he has a personality. Ryan Blaney has a personality. Bubba wall has a personality to an extent. Mark treks has a personality. He's those guys more either have had just luck room with those guys for a little bit. I don't think you can do that. That's the problem. But he's also he could be one of those guys where he's hilarious like with his buddies. But when he gets on stage, he's just garbage. Yeah. Man. He could. I mean, he's got the potential there. You really does have the potential to to to take that they'll junior role and be known outside the sport that Jeff Gordon role be known outside the sport. Even Jimmy Johnson is known outside the sport. Maybe not as much as you know, as Jeff Gordon or as dealer in her junior. But but yeah, you know, if chase can't do it. Then the next best thing is Ryan blaming needs to start freaking win and stuff. Yeah. And I'm surprised Nazi Ryan Blaney on that list. Cars were kind of garbage too because he had new number. That's the thing. They just not very good paint. Schemes that's down to him. Yeah. That's pretty much it. I think is just the fact that he's go back to the wood brothers and just goes back to twenty one start winning some stuff next thing. You know, he's gonna be big star. That'd be great. If he did then then it'll be a magnum PI every week. Sure, he'd be he'd be magnum. Yeah. He has he has the mustache should be magnum. He's got that. Like, oh, guess what depends? He doesn't like facial hair. So mustache me. Nothing's bad. He would have to shave it off though. No, MR Penske, doesn't Mr. Penske's not not a facial hair. Man. That's a bummer and is when he wins races will be able to make that call on his own. Hey will. Okay. He's going to be a bounty hunter. We also ready dog. It's going to be a bounty hunter on magnum p I on the episode actually playing a role. But but yeah, I don't know how that how that's gonna go down. I guess I guess it's better than him playing Ryan because that's the worst. It really is the worse when they're like, oh, this NASCAR personality is going to be on a show. And you're like, oh, God, this is going to be terrible. And then they play like themselves, and then because of that it is terrible. So I'm hoping that because he's not playing himself. It's not terrible. Well, nobody CBS news. So I think that's true. That's true. Yeah. Another network. You mentioned that when it happens. Exactly. Yeah. Between the Jimmy Johnson ABC, and then the magnum P on CBS, man. Yeah. It's great. All right. That's it. We've done it. We've we've wrapped. Oh, no, no. We haven't wrapped it up. Again. Here's one more thing. We gotta talk about Kayla talk about because the Woz man Email me this week. I'm gonna do and he has his own fan council certificate. That's right. Did you put it on the wall? I haven't printed out yet. But but yeah, no. They the fan councils like, hey, thanks for great twenty eighteen here's to certificate. Board for being on the band council now me and a hundred thousand of my closest friends I wouldn't award for being on the fan council. Well, all you have to do sign up, and they'll give you one at the end of the year. No, I need to do it. Right after the show 'em it. Yeah. You keep saying that. I know keep saying that they had to cancel. They had a council thing today. They did about candor outdoors. Oh god. Did you see who that is? Well, though because they're the new the truck team series, which is just Camping World just different division. Yeah. It's just called ganders. It's it's it's a male goose this, you're right. So they just asked about, you know, is do you think it's a brand that belongs or do you? Do you agree or disagree? Brand. It belongs in NASCAR. Brand this good fit. Sponsorship. Will give me a good impression. I would be more more relatable brand because it's Bonsor or would I would rather likely shop more stops. But it's like. God guys stop being so needy. I know they really are. They're they're probably trying to take that. And then turn around and give it to gander mountain. And then what you should have said is I didn't realize that there was a mountain full of male ducks. Geese geese male geese. Sorry Metis goose. So there it is. Now, we've now we've done it. So now next week like we talked about beginning the show, there's gonna be no program. Sorry about that. It's my fault. And the fact that I'm doing real world with my own boss. Think about that from us everybody out there both of you and Jimmy Johnson. Think about having to spend a week in an apartment with your boss. And for Jimmy. That's really weird because that means he's rooming with Rick Hendrick for a week. It's weird, man. I'm trying I'm trying to think of now my boss cool. I look my boss too. But still. It'd be weird 'cause she's a female. W weird. Yeah. And then have to go to HR xactly exactly detox things like that. Sure. Yeah. So that that's that's next week. And because of that it's my fault wearing and be able to show sorry about that. But. The week after that we are back on. I will be in lovely lovely warm Boston for that one. But we'll do the show. We'll talk about stuff and at that point. It'll be like a couple of weeks out from the Daytona five hundred man, we'll be close will be one week closer. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be like twenty one days or twenty days or nineteen days on you. 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Ep. 132 | Matt Tifft
"Haven. Welcome in the racing writers podcast. I'm your host, Kelly crandall. Happy Daytona Road Course Week, the xfinity series put on another fantastic show at road, America over the weekend. But now it's time for all three NASCAR national series to take on the Daytona Road Course for the first time breaking t shirt for all the fun we're going to have. It's a more road courses t available. Now, I have one and we'll be happily wearing it this. This week, and if you want to join me and grab one for yourself, head over to breaking t dot com slash Kelly, and while you're over there, you can also look at their full racing collection and you might find some other designs you want to add to your wardrobe. I have been doing over the last couple months again, that's breaking t dot com slash Kelly. I've got great show for you today with Matt Tiff to the twenty four year old who ran for front row motorsports. Last season in the NASCAR Cup series. If you are familiar with his story Matt had vacate his car in. Martinsville last fall when he suffered a seizure in the team's hauler early in the weekend, which also caused him to miss the last three races of the season in November Matt and front row parted ways as he expressed the need to focus on his health instead of racing. Matt suffered a second seizure in December on his honeymoon and he's here today to let everyone know how he's doing and to let everybody know what he's been up to trying to find answers about his health and matinee spoke over resume. So I can happily tell you that he looks great and is doing well, we had a great conversation one that also covered what it's like for him to watch races from home and the entertaining live tweeting that he does if you WanNa fun, perspective during the races, I highly suggest following on twitter. So we're covering all of that in some more today. Matt is a great guy, very well-spoken, and naturally when it comes to what has been thrown his way in life, he's very educated as well. It's fascinating to hear him discuss the brain and what he's been learning. There's just one more thing I want to express before we get into the podcast, and that is just a thank you to jbl for being a great partner of the racing writers podcast these last ten weeks. JBL has great products and I have been genuinely telling you all about some of those that I use like the jbl noise cancelling headphones and the pulse force, speaker. JBL. Dot Com is where you need to go to find any headphones or speakers you need. But JBL. Also has products for you, your house, your car, and even your kids. So make time to visit JBL DOT com to find what fits you, and again thank you to Jbl for being a great partner. Now. Here's Matt tift on the. Racing. Writers podcast. Well. It's good to see you. It's good to talk to you look. Well, how are you doing? How are you feeling at this present moment? Obviously, in regards to everything that you've battled over the last couple months. You look good. How do you feel how are things? Well, in this present moment, my allergies are Florida a little bit but. The Sea spray up beach. But now I'm feeling good. You know knock on wood near things have been good for a while. You know. I. Did some testing stuff over the summer. We learn a little bit more about what was going on doing that kind of stuff. So as some medication changes and things like that try to. Make sure that things don't happen to your wife and everything. So been doing really well, you know it's kind of hard because it's so it's so weird obviously with this whole Kovic times and everything because sexual been a good thing for me because I feel like because everything's means cream at same. You know that kind of started before everybody else had the warranty. Do things different is so I was kind of already on that asks. So it's made the transition a little bit easier because the weirdness. So but no, luckily things been really good and up and head great Helfer of months now. So you know I think we've found it on some stuff that's out a lot. Of that is trying to stay busy in the. The, last one, the last seizure I guess I should say you announced I, think was on your honeymoon, which was back in December. So all clear since then you say everything's been well. So as right now that's been the last one and everything's been going good. Yeah. Yeah. No things have been good to end the the weird part about it is you know every state has different driving law for driving streetcars and things like that. So north, Carolina's only six months. But I've kind of gone longer paths just because I don't want to put myself at risk for others at risk yet until I kind of feel totally confident that can do. It's been one of the weird thing says that. Even though I've been fine, it's still. It's still a little bit of weirdness with it because I feel like is much as I could do those things. He kind of just like. I don't know if I'm completely ready to do it yet, which sounds weird. Being race driver do that. But I think it's changed to being more of A. It's the right thing to do sort of a deal. Just make sure that. Are, good. For a long time and the reason I say that I'm not yet because they did change medication in. So I, Kinda WanNa, go another you normally six months with that I. Kinda like do since they changed the medication good six months with that. Just feel really good about it and be like, okay. Well, at this point I really am safe to do. Do these things again and I mean apart from that amine normal life has been fine. I've got that I still drive stuff like that and I go out and do things in in pretty much everything else is normal. The only thing that I don't do anymore is in a race on the weekends or or drive of a streetcar. So everything else luckily has. kind of gone back to being normal, which was not the case at all beginning, say you mentioned different medications and you had shared on twitter that you were doing testing and going through different things? Have you gotten any closer matt to trying to figure out if is there a trigger to what brings on or do you have any better idea of why these have happened in widely happened when they did or what's been the journey? The last couple of months in terms of searching for answers? Have you gotten any answers what have? Have, you learned going through the tests and everything changing the medication over the last couple of months. Yeah. I, think the weird one for sure was the first one I. Mean, that's that's the weirdest most bizarre one to me. So I really wanted to understand the reason why the test was trying to understand. How could this happen all of a sudden sort? So that one when I was in week four was Kansas where race snare there and the prior week to like mid week going into canvas, I got really really sick with. Food poisoning. Now, I was feeling better by the race weekend, but a Lotta people. No, I was big advocate of the Kito. Diet. I've been on that for two and a half or three years, and so that was the first time that I had come off of it. Is I. Literally just was so sick from I. Think I had them unfor- chicken from Indian place. So I was so sick to my stomach. I. Couldn't pull down anything like the only things I could hold down with. Crackers and like non trustable or something like that, and you're talking to a guy who has not had read two years. So like best a big big difference at the same time I've grossly could not keep anything more in. So I think my electrolytes. We're in a pretty bad place at that point too, and so this kind of in you room I remember the rare I was literally. Its ups for a water in a bag of Thomas, like it was just terrible. So. Fast for going into Martinsville, I was still finding the bug A. starting to feel a little bit better, but still biting it for sure. The night before I drove a states fill, and then the morning of I drove from States Ville two to Martinsville from there because I love in Huntersville. So what's crazy about it to me is in looking back on that night from only got five or six hours sleep. Sets family. Come in. We would dinner and stuff, and then I eventually made my way up there. But Added Cup of coffee which I was normal. But I think because my stomach is so upset really starting to affect some things there, and then by the time I, got to the track in the morning I think, hurt my fuse, my parked my truck. I. WanNa stay. Lights seven or seven, oh five. Some I. Watch in ATTRAC- Talks people going into the track and I had the seizure at like seven fifteen. So I'm really really close to being drive number of the happened. So in the Infield. CARE. Center. They said my electrolytes were like tanked which I'm not surprised because I was trying to keep up with gatorade and things like that and pedialyte. But like. Like I said I just kept everything kept coming out. So I'm not shocked on that that that happens in general with that testing and my brain tumor recession spot. It always has a little bit of scar tissue on there. So because of my brain tumor when I went through in two thousand sixteen, I was always quizmaster by Nascar by the doctors by everyone there had had a seizure because. That tumor was very prone to seizures, and so I'd never had one ever ever ever before the Martinsville one. So that was kind of weird things like why would this happen now? But if you look at I'm sick because of the food poisoning I had really high, I did some testing afterward stomach wise called cal protecting. So it's a thing in your stomach that shouldn't be that inflated, but Super Super. Super inflated by tip danger, dangerously high levels which would mean like extreme infection and pass that the electrolyte loss in their of created this perfect storm I. Think for happen, and then when I went to the honeymoon saying. So I went back on Keita. Once I felt better everything Kinda got back to a little bit more normal. Then I had no wedding honeymoon and opposite nobody wants to have the. The happen on their honeymoon, but I ve probably eaten bad again and things off I. Don't know if it was because my stomach wasn't settled yet or like just what the deal was, but there's definitely some sort of an infection on time, but that's not the main cause for the main causes that my tumor recession spot is more susceptible to having seizures. So basically, you know what would affect. Affect a wooden effects from somebody else. Another driver does affect me because so sensitive to that stuff and I've always been very sensitive after the surgery, but then I found out things to like. So once we did the testing, they're basically, they confirmed that I have a normal abnormal eeg, which means that It looks normal for a person who had a bridge out. Were you a? They'd be like. We need to scan on it because something doesn't look right here. So beca confirms to the activity is coming from somewhere in that area, but there was a large amount to pinpoint exactly where, but they just knew that that was that was the case. But again, it was my first one, I've ever had was October. So they couldn't put anything further back before them because I had no epileptic or anything like that a perfect storm I. I just. So when you hear that and you and I'm listening to you describe it like it might just be triggered by some. So are you having to be more vigilant now and like what you eat and your diet and things like that? Because you know you're prone to seizures or is there really kinda nothing you can do about it? I, don't know if that's the right way to put it, but it's like, how do you? Yeah. So it's like, how do you fight that? Because you don't nobody wants to have another seizure? How do you live with that knowing that it might happen? Yes. So it was definitely tough in the beginning. That's where I talk about this medication change that kind of happened in there. So when they learned that there was some activity coming from that area base confirming it is. Related to the brain to I'm this thing is not related to I should start by saying, this is not related to die because I was off of Hito again for many months eating normal a enduring all this testing time in some ernst stuff. So I'm back on Nash because life away some field, but but it's not related just to die. So they use a perfect storm of the infection that was going on and stuff like that. But another thing that I found to from this was I've been going to a an upper cervical, a chiropractor, and so it's what we found that a lot of the stuff in my see one and C, two vertebrae were very very kind of pushed together and. And scrunched together there to where it when you look at a graph and stuff that should be a straight line ended shouldn't be any pressure or things happening. So what we've found is that there's been a lot of things that were based on my neck curvature and everything there was not correct which could be resolved from Australian could be accidents could be you know whatever in there could be things I have when I was a kid, I don't know. But you know because of what I did everything. I? Kind of look back to the Summer Bristol race and the practice that weekend I had out of the car during practice because I got out and I think ran like three or. Or four laps that run and I was supposed to do whole long run like fifteen twenty months and came in and everybody's doing what's going on and out of the car I remember looking up at the Jumbotron at in Bristol in the stadium vicious spin and spinning and Spinning and spinning, and so it was my first really bad case of Vertigo and I started notice that something was wrong with that, and so when we found this stuff with my WanNa see to that whole area basically has seventy billion neurons to go from there to your brain down your spine and everything. So what was happening is that since that was so impacted or injured or whatever, before this crashes or or. Or just normal stuff before when putting pressure on, that is essentially losing nerve float my head. So that's another factor in this twos. I. I had some issues or injuries in there. There were compounding onto this again, not same as the only factor things a perfect storm of a lot of things. But that's been something we've worked on to is to try to fix that area and his very gentle I dig this little gun, my count pushed the bone back in place and they've these scans and stuff with it. But you know like you said living with those the hardest thing for me, the first few months was because I never had anxiety or anything like that before him in Paris. I shouldn't have that. You know like this. No fear. You're you're. In the job line that we do with think. But so I never experienced that before. So all of a sudden here. I am and I don't know from going GonNa have another seizure not like can kind of questioning things. So that testing gave a lot of answers into what exact medicine tonight should go on because I was on something called kept up, which is a very generalized anti-seizure medication. So it's good and controlling most seizures from most people that obviously, I had another one in December. So there was something that was right going on there. So I went on this new medication, but the other cool thing is now I have A. What's called a rescue medications tried this Little Hill. surfable pocketed. I keep in my pocket with me and so if when I have the seizure, I have about five, ten second four. So it was. A warring this about to happen. So I feel it all than going had. I can take this pill and basically it shuts it down to doesn't allow it to happen. So that was one of the coolest things that from the summer at testings that I have this tool our it's like okay. Well, if Shit's about the fan, I can take this inmate stop. So that gave back of feeling of control the because there's so much of a lack of control of all this. Got One is GONNA happen. What's you know? There's so much stress. Like will this happen in public? Again, I mean immense courses terrifying on the high with my wife, see that stuff. But you know the horrifying thing for me, is that replying that stuff of the first Martinsville incident everything was the the feeling of of seeing the guys face as with three crew guys in the in the hauler and seeing their faces like windows happen. Of course, I'm terrified to. But just like the shock and the holy crap like is he? He you know as you dying like, what's what's going on at the moment father was in. So just that feeling of not wanting to see that you look at people look at you that way. So if you go to a supermarket or anywhere I, just anything family events whatever and you have that in your back in your mind, it's terrifying. So that ramp deadlines ideal lot from it. I had terrible PTSD from those events because just it's horrifying. So I've had to do a lot of therapy a lot of meditate. A lot of. Just. Restorative thinking in practices and stuff because it was so bad. But one of the coolest things like I said, the came out of the testing thing was now I have a of the where I know that if it ever gets left that I can take shuts down luckily I'm had taken really, but I can't take like a small maintenance wandered the day too. So kind of helps offset to make sure doesn't happen as well along with my normal medication, but there's just like a large dose that I've always there. Just in case you touched on it where you said you were doing therapy and things like that. Because I wanted to ask I can't imagine. Living with that stress anxiety that you mentioned because you just don't know if it's GonNa happen again, and that makes the nerve. You those are the words stress and anxiety I cannot imagine living like that. So again, you explain how you had to start doing things to battle that because that is a real day to day thing of just not knowing if this is going to happen again and just all the emotion that comes with that. Is there other things doing? Can you just stayed a little bit more into explaining? How do you fight that on a daily basis? How do you fight that exile Zion that stress? It started with in the beginning. It was very hard because like I said I haven't been I don't WanNa leave the house. I. Put out that statement at one point of of my battle with with all that stuff. So that was my first pick. All the stuff because I've had family members that have really struggled winning. And things like that. But I I guess. I. Didn't know what it meant. I knew what it was like to be nervous, and it was like the have butterflies by know what true anxiety was. I, guess it took a period of May going through that to learn what was real and what was anxiety like, what was real, and what was my mind playing tricks says because there's symptoms when I would have a seizure had. There's certain things that kind of build up in happen because it happens all kind of in my job tongue. That sort of stuff like is, what happens I before? Before I I s out and it's extremely painful and everything. But sometimes, I'd have like little blitzer little twitches and stuff which be completely normal. But of course, my mind would go to, Oh, my gosh, is happening again. So I had to learn at first what was real and what was not necessarily real. But like what was a seizure risk and what wasn't, but yeah, at went to therapy. We've done a lot of something called either ardia Nassar are Ndsu de that one I'm coming but. Basically, when we go to slough a rapid move, allows your brain to process today and basically make memories and do all that kind of stuff. So when something dramatic happens it is unless we have PTSD new, relive any of nightmares and All that kind of stuff, those events happen. So that would happen all the time. So I wanted to shut that out somehow. So they would do the deal where basically I would talk to the service and tell them exactly what happened everything. I remember the feelings of. The middle of after it people's faces. I saw you know all that kind of stuff that affected me same thing, the second seizure, and basically we would go through that and then would do something with her finger or this metronome looking thing where he goes back and forth and back and forth and your your is just follow it and it's crazy because what it allows you to do is it allows your brain to. To. Take the first person like you're going through it again, like right now in allows you to a memory bank where it's kind of like a memories, kind of first person that Kinda third person like kind of looking back on something, but you're not really living in that moment looking back. So it needs to start with those memories to rest a little bit. So that was a huge help and just practicing that. That over and over and over again, that was a big thing. I'd say you know another big part of it too was just once I got comfortable enough after in a few weeks. Expert few months of their be was trying to do social things again, going to dinner scare the crap out I mean it was just it was terrifying to go do that kind of stuff in the beginning and so obviously this. This is three Cova Mary thing before that was restricted for a bit. But as one of the big roadblocks was going out and being social because they're so afraid of that stuff. So first step would be okay. Let's go to dinner with just me and Jordan Novi Alright. Well, let me go to dinner with friends. First Time was terrifying, but at the end of it'd be like, okay, twelve nothing happened positive experienced. Experienced in the kind of dude over and over and over again, and then you do the next thing and then the next thing. So everything at first terrifying, remember standing in line at the Charlotte Airport. The first flight I was GONNA have, and in the industry we fly all the time we go the the commercial airports all the time too, and I, remember being afraid standing in in the Yeah. The TSA. Tsa Security Line. The end of last year when this happens in Martinsville, then you miss the final three races of the season. What were the emotions like getting out of the car those last couple races, and then coming into this year and knowing you're not going to be preparing for Daytona? What's to spend the whole roller coaster now when it comes to having to get Outta the car? Yeah. Think if you asked. Asked me back. Then it would have been much harder answer. This lies easier now to compartmentalize because it's been some time, but I remember seeing with Martinsville, and then I went to Texas because I did the press conference out back of a Holler there, and then I, went to homestead. So going to Texas was terrifying I remember that like it was a good feeling but a horrifying feeling that same time and the interview I did at the back of the the Holler. there. I can't get to a point where I said I wanted to say and there's a few questions. But at the end, I couldn't feel any more questions because started having full on panic attack, and so I tried to shuttle it just trying to cut it out as much as I could, but it was the first time or I'd had Any Group of people up to me whereas like. I don't know what's going on my concern have legit panic attack, and so that's kind of realized that stuff was happening. Emotionally. Chad before. So you know going to Texas was I. Thought it was mistake for the race and everything after that interview, I had to get out and talk to my team and everything just kind of hang out for a bit. But within thirty minutes was out of there by couldn't stay anymore when I came back in two, twenty, sixteen, I, did the interview at Bristol saying that was coming back if the brain surgery and everything that night or extra during that day, it was amazing with brain. How sensitive it is. After did that press conference? It was so stressful that I had to. To go lay in a semi alleges in the cab of one of them for like three hours just like it was. So incredibly stressful and same thing for this. Like as soon as that happened, I had to get out and I just went airport and pretty much just just sat there for a few hours before my flight even came prescribe. He took me over to in and out. Burger. Before we went there and he just kind of sat with me eight with me and stuff, but it was just so much to not only come back to the racetrack. But no, what happened. Going to the racetrack. So it going in the hauler seeing the exact spot where it happened just a week or two before them. kind of had among just like kind of looking back because I knew at that point that that was going to be a big change in my life that the entire cup series thing was going to be done for a long time or me in that moment. So you know that was a lot to take in, but you know like with therapy stuff, I had to kind of go and say, okay, well, I'm not Friday racetracks anymore. I'm not afraid of like going to haulers and stuff like that. So just kind of desensitized and that stuff eventually do but. Going back to homestead. WHO said is a really special place to me because I saw my first race in two thousand and three. I went there every single year I think until I twenty thirteen or fourteen something like they're twenty thirteen as a fan. So I have so many good memories there. We made a lot of racy and business deals there towards the end like when I started racing. So it was just a very special place to me. That was actually really cool because I got a of John Hunter. Some gets really hang out with my team some, but then standing on the. The Grid I should really, and it was the first time that has kind of into the sexist thing was such a shock because of making mouse unseen seeing first time. But home said felt good just because it was kind of like a closer thing for me like it was. You know the end of the year, it was the end of kind of mind with front row and everything and everything was going on that you can cause the guy still have all your shirts on everything like that Astana Anna strange to see, and then somebody else that driving your car. But yeah, it was. Those actually gone day for me and just do that I watched the whole race a little bit from in the mountain stands to watch for awhile while, but just is a good day to do that. But then obviously, it was weird in the off season because normally you're in order to Daytona and I'm normally good until the second week of January I'm pretty good with offseason mode than like you know, let's go. Let's get to they tone up and that's when I kind of realized. Realized like Oh I. Don't know one and looking forward to now because once you January, you start getting back in the shop you you're getting fitted in your seat if you have to work with you guys on what you're GonNa, do it up the boards simulator, whatever it is. That was the first time I kinda got in there went. Well, I, don't really know what I'm doing at this point. So that was definitely strange, and then I really struggled with that week to week. Through really through when you guys are going to Atlanta because every week, I'd be watching the race like thinking, I should be out there kind of watching looking at how I did, what notes I have and have all that stuff and You know it really was the Atlanta, the words when it shut shutdown, that was the biggest switch for me because all the sudden when you guys shut down for quarantine, everybody else quarantine. It gave me time to say, Hey, it's. It's okay. You know whatever happened was supposed to happen in this time to move on video and I. I, think that was a very good thing that time was, of course, circumstances are terrible I wish the whole thing would never happen with the Kobe stuff. But at the time gap in, there was great for me to say, Hey, I can just go at that makes sense. Are you tuned in every week? Still? Are you able to watch from afar? Enjoy it and I ask that because I, want to ask about twitter here in a minute. But in general, are you tuned in and learning to love it from afar and watch it and take it in from TV? Yeah. Yeah. No, I. was I grew up in this as a fan? It's hard for me to be a fan. I wasn't racing on Saturday or Friday when we're doing the cup stuff on Sunday I was in my hotel watching the other race. So I've always been a fan. I think the difference is now, I still know a ton of people in the industry. I still keep up with a lot of them. So I kind of know the inside stuff still, but it's kind. Kind of fun to watch from a broadcast points. So Kano the inside and the outside track on stuff. But yes, been kind of fun because I tune in when I want to. But at the same time, you know, I don't have any responsibility. So I, can of Chime in whatever I want to. So that's kind of been more entertaining innings as much. Flagged ever really was much but I don't have might security blanket on as much as I used to. Well. That's exactly what I was. GonNa say is because you have had some very great entertaining tweets. I mean I saved a couple of 'em where I don't know who you're talking about. But tweeted at one point during one race dude, get off the track you. Great. Yeah. You had a great gift back from I. Think it was Pocono and Justin Haley spun out I. Think it was Riley herbst and everybody kind of knew it was intentional. So twitter is it just one of those things where you kind of touched on it where you really don't have anyone answer to? So it gives you more freedom now to really call it like you see it when you're watching from home. Yeah. Yeah. You know it's just kind of fun because was like instagram and facebook and stuff, but mainly instagram I normally share myself from scrammed facebook. That's more of like lifestyle stuff for you know whatever. But twitter's fun for me because it's the most engaged I. Am with the racing community and Yeah, it's Kinda. Fun. Because you know when I see stone like the Pocono or or the thing that I think tweeted that shouldn't the one with the Boko thing, Mike. You just know things as driver that sometimes fans don't know like it was that ten. No, that's totally intentional, and there's another one with Harrison. Noah against the fight afterwards thought they did a good job in the interview and Not. So much in there. Just being the political correctness in there, but it's fun for me now because I get angry with that stuff now because unlike not angered by it worked up about it because you know as a driver what you're supposed to say everything. But then with blast broadcast important is comical because I knew exactly what happened and you're just looking at your like, no, that's not at all. What you did, you totally took him out or he? Did something stupid or? Trapped I, mean my my whole point with the things that you are in the top three national series of stockcar racing in America. Like you know, you should be held some standards. So I just find it funny to watch things unfold. Now, because you know when the commentators come around and they asked the questions to them, and there should be an answer and you know that there should be answer and they dance around everything with it. I like both wanted them because like you know you're just making everything up to dance around what you just did. You're going to get a lot of crap for Monte, you're on meetings. How has your perspective overall now watching this art from home being on the outside of it? How has your perspective of any changed or have you learned anything from having this different view? So I'm always been very involved. I, was racing with the sponsor side. So that was you know something different with me. I was actively doing some pauling being involved on the sponsor searching side and that stuff. So for me, it's Kinda. Cool to see how some drivers do a good job of. Of representing their brand sponsors and stuff and other people don't I think too. It's kind of a fun thing to see you know the different broadcasting styles between NBC and Fox M. Who really does a great job at Morrison We have some incredibly talented people in our industry that represent us, but I also think it's cool to see just in general the things that have changed. The All star race ahead honored when we had the shoes cone all the stuff that people. People are pushing for which I'm talking on twitter myself, but these things would have never happened. Had it not been for twitter? So it's kind of cool to see. I think I'm a normal fan with a lot of stuff but I know enough from the business side and you look at someone What I think has been this here is Matt colleague in his car's inexpensive. You know they are are CR cars and they're getting full support from them, but you know you. You. Look at a team like that. That's really kind of made a huge presence in the expenditures and they'd like good over the years. But is cool to see for me a group like that. The small team doing big things like that. Or Ryan Seger guys, xfinity. What's different? This year I think spending is the most fun cereal watched in my opinion just because the race Langston stories that go on there. But then someone like chased Briscoe I, mean, just going on. With that stuff and calling the shots and hey, I gotTa Win Ten races this year, and then you actually kind of dope are doing it i. just think those are fun things to watch. But same time I know the pressures of what they're going through. But then it's kind of weird to see too because you know the guys you race with it, our income yarn expended, and you look back in different years every year, there's different depths in the fields in there. So you know the truck and xfinity series. Now, maybe they don't have as much depth as it used to, but the people that are winning the races that are competing are in a revolving and they're. They're really battling really hard with each other as truth even in cup. This year, Spin Danny cabinet has been the story this year you watch cow Bush like, wow, this is crazy and we haven't seen this year's so just little things like that. I think they've been so many storylines that are so to keep up with. But at the same time I don't watch every single race. The entire way through I. Don't sit there the entire time. I like to keep up with an on twitter or whatever, and then I'll get home and watched the last art and Kinda get caught up to what's happened so far. But in some race, I, sit down, watch the whole. BS, it's been fun just knowing what's going on and all sides, but I, think there's been so many great storylines this year and how good of a job Nascar is done through the horn team, the on the Toronto virus situation that it's fun to see. So many good things happening and is fun to see people's takes that are things that are happening to. You know the Bait on the aero package and all that stuff see maddie going off like crazy. But then having the exciting for why finishes or battles and stuff like that too. So I think we've so many good things going on that it makes on to be involved that side right now to I was going to ask you to put on your driver analyst hat and kind of breakdown what you've seen from the season. But you already did it. You just threw out a bunch of topics. They're calling chase, Frisco and aero package and whatnot. So I appreciate that I love the fact that you're kind of become like a driver analyst now where you're picking up on stuff and. Oxfam yeah you. Was Still. There you go. You've noticed the different storylines and different things. So is it still difficult though to watch it from afar or has it gotten easier over time? Yeah. It's. It's hard in the beginning like I said, it's super tough when they went back to racing as a man. I, wish I was doing that just because nobody's doing anything really. But was over in a week and the other thing too is I've been busy myself. My wife opened up a store front of ever clothing herb or boutique in in South Strauss I've been. Been Super Busy with that, I've been able to work in some projects and some things at home to spend different businesses. So I've been so busy that you know I. It's something I had to find something to do with the ticket my time in know make money and do all that kind of stuff. So I've been busy enough now to where I don't feel like I have to be out there anymore whereas it used to feel like, Hey, that's my especially, when is my number my name above the door played? That's nego. That really should be me out there, but I think the pool thing for me to see was for this year, and probably the hardest part initially was the fact that would look at front row, the alliance they have with row chevaliers a little bit different how they do it. But they got a lot of great cars and Jesse's from them this year. So I was really excited because when it happened all that stuff. Martin. I, signed my deal that come back for twenty twenty, and so I was really excited because I knew what was coming and I knew the the good things that we had coming. Coming in there in the cars we're getting all on. So we've been able to see kinda like the fruits of their efforts and their jumped. They've had performance at some tracks when they used those cars and do those things. So as to Kinda, cheer on those guys now, Eh, I is like I. Wish I. Could you know try this out just to see what I feel like with those improve cars. But now kind of like Emma, you know kind of a fan of those guys and hope they do well week to week. But certainly, I would have liked you've tried that last year when I was driving. You had mentioned last year. I think it was at. Texas. That you still WANNA come back and race one day that still the goal now here in to August twenty twenty? Where do you sit on that Matt? Do you still hope one day? It's a possibility to return to racing or have things now changed for you. List I, love racing and I love driving race cars at the heart of everything I'm stories. I don't know realistically what the timeline, that's the hard part because I don't know what that looks like, and that's more of a thing that I I've some meetings with my doctors and stuff over these next few weeks and months and stuff the Wiki keep talking about with my progression as I go along. So I can't sit here and say what timeline anything is GONNA be. I don't know. So I kind of have to go past that in a way. Way. To say, Okay Wolves, can I have to plan for other things, but you know help professional sports? Are I mean you kind of have a window that you get to come in with things? But massacres differ that because if you find a sponsor, you find some funding to do something, you can't come back and do a few things. So I'm never ruling it out. But at the same time I should probably worry about Driving Streetcar, I do right well. Just. So people that understand, let's say down the road you decide and you're able to come back. What would be the roadmap that you would have to follow to get back into a race car? I don't know. I haven't asked the question you. Yeah. I've not asked START I have not asked anybody. Would I truly don't know when do you think that you'll get back into a streetcar? You mentioned you're out driving the boat and doing things like that. You had said earlier kind of taken that slow. What's the timeline there of just taking that next step. So like I mentioned in may be kind of change around my medicine they're. So my plan is for. For November is to be able to do that. So holiday season that I wanna be on back to normal doing that stuff. So that gets enough time, and hopefully some this craziness will be gone down to where you know do do that. It'll be normal stuff I can travel to, but I think new members is what I have my head of when I'm GonNa, go do it as long as everything's good until then get out there all holiday shopping. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm sure will be doing that. It'll be exciting though because it is unbelievable. How much freedom you lose when you cannot drive a streetcar. It is absolutely crazy I mean, you don't think about it, but is hold time. I feel like fifteen year old this witness, they get his temps and then winning his license I mean, it's just like that such awkward faced where I know I can do it. I know I'm allowed to do things, but it's just weird. It's. Is that sense of freedom you lose? It's just it's bizarre to be honest with her because, and then it's really expensive for lists, Newburgh all the time to ms such strange period right now, because it used the two to five minutes, you'd wait for Newbury lifts and stuff to go places. But right now limited people on the new. It's risk when you do it any way. Way Twenty to thirty minutes when he wanted to get a pick your the scandal everything out. So you're not really try to rely on other people when they are getting around to do stuff at the stains. I missed, it's hard to count on that stuff because one is expensive and then to it takes a lot of even get into. Let's Uber and then you got. To do all the today Shin, in the masking. Some of them have defined plexiglass rings. Like ninety degrees in the back seat. Everything has been a little bit interesting with that. Suffer began to say like Alan, he goes to the drive, Thru? I am that out and go in and get you know do all that stuff. So is planning going on when I wanNA leave my house. All. Right. Let me ended on one last question. You've kind of touched on how you're staying busy a few minutes ago. What do you have going on in life right now besides being married and enjoying all of that. How do you keep busy? What do you have your hands than what you have going on in life nowadays? Well, like I said, now I've been out of the last week or two have been in new. Jersey doing on vacation up here. But yes, I like I said, my wife's she started up a business down in south, Charlotte Net was opened at the end of June. So probably, April through June, we're literally just building. Building the store. So that was pretty much every day long nights to midnight one am trying to get that thing done suite a set opening to get things done by A. so a lot of coordination, lot of doing stuff with that. She's taken over a lot of that stuff, but I run a lot of the finance aside on that some kind of self claim CFO on that deal, and then I own a few rental properties. So I'm still involved on that I've had those since I started racing one of the invest in do stuff with that. But then I I kind of have things off and on that I do. Stuff throughout the week busy. But that's one thing I've tried to think of to is what's something i WanNa do going into next year and looking at that and I think the honest answer in there is I'd love to work in Nascar something in racing because I miss going to the track. Miss being involved in the industry week to week or whether that's broadcast role lower, doing something within the sport. In this weird time right now became the racetrack I wanted to because not official team member. So that's kind of missing art. Right is traveling and not only just traveling race track with traveling in general I mean. When you do thirty, thirty, five, hundred, thirty, eight weekends a year traveling deemed on four this week, you get to go to law school. New article things during stuff with some friends and. I, still have a lot of friends in the industry that I I. WanNa. Do stuff with. So I'd love to figure out something that I could do with Ms. And I think they'd be really fun. So we'll have to work on that driver analyst role then maybe with Fox are NBC. Unplugging for me. Yeah. You do some analysis from the couch of what you're seeing and all those storylines. Interesting Yeah I did love it though the other week when I don't know who it was. They got in a wreck, but someone is saying that they just got or something happen like that or maybe race in Siebel talk goes now, he just he took him out. There's no other thing I was like, thank you. See. That was awesome. I love it when they actually call you blab on that. So if they just need like a guy in the side that you know identical calls up the official explained rule that I could just be the guy in the side of the end of the says, now, he could totally them purpose that kind of stuff they use plug me think of phone. And do it. And married life is good is very good. Yeah. It's been great. It's good. We got our three to two cats. So we're always taking care of the zoo at home. But no, it's. It's been really good. Yeah. What's up with me and there's a lot more days I'm there than I used to be that's giving. Well Matt. You look good. You sound great. I'm glad you're doing well, and once again, I, appreciate the time and hopefully one day. We will see you back at the racetrack, but if not I hope we can see you maybe again sometimes somewhere in the sport and it works out. So again I shape time. Glad to doing well. Like I said, it's never ruled out of him coming back, but we'll see. But thank you. It's been a long time since I've done an interview law rusty. So thanks. As every week when wrapping up the show, let me again. Thank Matt for his time and candor. I. Wanted to check in with him and see how he was doing and it was great to see him and hear that everything has been going well. But how about the fact that he isn't making too much noise about racing. Again, he's staying realistic and focused on his health and the steps he needs to do to I, reclaim some of his independence and I respect honesty about that, but it would be great to see him back in racing either behind the wheel or maybe he'll find another role that suits him in the sports. So everybody stay tuned as I will be because it's going to be fun to see what happens. If you want additional Matt tiff content, he was on the podcast last July. So go browse the archives and look for episode, Seventy Nine. As I said at the top of the show, NASCAR is headed to Daytona for the first time run on the road course. 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EP 210803: Michael Jordan, Michael McDowell
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EP 205001: Garage Pass
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EP 201601: Garage Pass
"The chip Ganassi Suspense Kyle. Larson lost definitely difficult times for everybody. So you've gotta calm weather the storm once we get back to the race track. These kids can be a blast skin back in the car. It was fun. We ended up getting a third place finish Mark Carroll NPR INS GARAGE PEZ. Oh Wail guys wail. Wow where that's a big deal Okay Wail grail. Fono can turn quick on the water. Progressives Boat Insurance. Has You covered? Get a quote today in as little as three minutes. Progressive Dot Com. At least it wasn't a shark. Iran Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Now that racing is not easy but did you know car. Shopping is easy. Auto trader is the only car shopping site with Kelley. Blue Book. Price adviser so you can be confident depresses fair confident. Like when you make a pass on that semi-truck going slow in the fast lane car shopping now. Easier than racing. An eighteen wheeler auto trader. Finally it's easy. Everyone seems to agree with any malicious intent. But getting ready to do some. I racing Sunday. Night Kyle Larson dropped the N. Word while he was trying to connect with his spotter chip Ganassi racing has taken immediate action issuing a statement that said quote. We are extremely disappointed. By what Kyle said last night? During an eye racing event the words he chose our offensive and unacceptable. As of this moment we are suspending. Kyle without pay while we work through this situation with all appropriate parties end quote. Well we're now heading into week. Seven of the corona virus shutdown. And like it is for just about every business in our country. It's putting a lot of financial pressure on all the NASCAR teams front row. Motorsports driver Michael McDowell definitely difficult time. Not just our industry but for everybody so we just gotTa Kinda weather. The storm is the best thing that can happen for us. Is We all go back to our normal way of life here soon and that will stimulate the economy. And we'll start growing again but you know right now. This can be a major ripple effect for a lot of industries as to when they'll resume racing NASCAR is currently contemplating a number of different options. The earliest of which now is Charlotte's coke. Six hundred may twenty four. No matter when it happens. William Byron Toll Fox. He'll be raring to go. Yes ca fun to just be back in the car and honestly just be able to go to do normal things and see your race team and I know everybody wants we get back to the racetrack. It's GONNA be a blast to skin back in the car. During the in our country the Nascar community wants to salute and thank all the medical professionals doctors. Scientists first responders everybody on the front lines. We're with you. We are with you. Were here with you. And we will continue to do our part staying home and social distancing so that we can all beat this so we can all this so that we can beat this together together together together together together during the INDYCAR. I racing challenge over the weekend on. Nbc S. N. Team Penske driver. Simon passionate one at Virtual Michigan but in his open wheel debut Dale Earnhardt Jr. came home third after surviving a big wreck just as the race started racing all his guys. A lot of those guys were pretty ticked off about how the strategy worked out for them. That recommend frustration at the start so of took a bunch of guys down pit road and put a bunch of NCO mileage mode so fast as cars get the best same race. Today provident win. Prn's garage past presented by progressive insurance cars home boats motorcycles. Rv's more at progresive DOT com.
EP 210801: Michael McDowell, Denny Hamlin
"Michael mcdowell he's always around with these things you got to give credit for that big upset winner in nascar our biggest rates to give my first cup win. It's unbelievable. I'm just so thankful and no great pete for handling certainly disappointed arcaro. Npr ins garage. Pass the old way of living with diabetes is a pain you've got to remember to do your testing and you always need to be sticking your fingers. The new way to live your life with diabetes is with a continuous glucose monitor. You simply apply a discreet. Easy to use sensor on your body and it continuously monitors your glucose levels helping you spend more time in range and freeing you from painful finger pricks if you test your blood sugar at least four times per day and inject insulin at least three times per day or use an insulin pump and have private insurance or medicare you might be eligible for a gm with little or no cost to you call. Us medical supply today for a free benefits. Check call now and say goodbye to finger pricks eight hundred four nine five four six seven one eight hundred four nine five four six seven one eight hundred four nine five four six seven one. That's eight hundred four nine five forty six seventy one when teammates joey lugano and brad kozlowski wrecked in turn three. On the final lap michael mcdowell shot the gap to become one of the biggest upset winners in daytona. Five hundred history brandon. I pulled down with a run in next. Brad was turning right. Joey was turning left. And i went right through the middle of it and he. I looked in my mirror. And i saw chase elliott with iran. And i went up there and block them as fast as i could and we made a little bit of contact and i didn't see anything else from that point it's just kind of a blur from their the thirty six year. Old driver of the love's travel stops. Ford has run the nascar cup series since two thousand eight taking three hundred fifty eight races before he finally made it to victory lane to get my first cup win at daytona is just. It's unbelievable. i'm just so thankful he has not been an easy road and there's been lots of years where wondering what the heck am i doing and i am. I doing it. And i always knew that if you just kept grinding that you know one day everything will line up go right but as you get further into. You just don't know so. I'm just very thankful with everybody. Made it possible for his front row. Motorsports team owner. Bob jenkins it was just as third win and over a thousand tries the first since two thousand sixteen looking for a record breaking third consecutive win in the daytona five hundred denny hamlin led the most laps and won both stages but after the final green flag pit stop found himself stock near the end of a long single file. Line being helpless. I hate not being able to do anything i just thought for. Sure chevy's would be like okay. We're not gonna win from here. We got to do something but nobody wanted to. And you know it's just gonna wait goes progressive presents. The sounds of the old the us twenty nineteen and someone is waiting for a table at a restaurant thomson. Party of four thomson. Party of four thomson part. Oh there you are. This has been the sound of the old brought to you by progressive where drivers can still switch and save like it's twenty nineteen clo- today at progressive dot com progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates didn't win but runner-up chase elliott and third place. Finisher austin dillon. Were happy for michael mcdowell. Battle heart the in his career in thank. You can't help. But the fact he's still pushing and trying to have success here i respected. I'm happy for him. And the enjoys. Great racer you really does find himself. The front vanish traces often. And he's always around at these credit for that. The garage pass sponsored by progressive drivers who save with progressive. Save over seven hundred fifty dollars on average.
EP 204702: Garage Pass
"In the all new next gen cup car so far so good. It's been fun to drive yet so roble workout. He'll like i say at school because of how different the car is and to have all this happened during mark caroline. Prn's garage pass. Have you written a book and wanna get it published page publishing a sap. We're looking for authors of all types of books and unlike most publishers page publishing will take the time to review each and every book submitted to us. And if we like what we read we will get your book into bookstores and for sale online at amazon apple. Itunes store barnes and noble and other outlets we handle everything editing printing publicity and distribution. So if you've written a novel children's book or a biography and want to get it published called page publishing now for your free author submission kit your road to fame and fortune could very. Well start with this simple phone call. Eight hundred two nine six one two nine four eight hundred two nine six one two nine four eight hundred two nine six one two nine four once again. That's eight hundred two nine six twelve ninety four instead of debut in during the upcoming season because of covid nineteen the next gen cup car will now hit the track in twenty twenty two nascar has however resumed track testing at charlotte motor speedway on wednesday. They'll run laps on the oval but monday two car spent time turning left and right on the roble with martin treks junior and kurt busch behind the wheel qualifying every lap. Because of how impressive the lap times are overall a lot of fun seat working with all these different people trying to sort out a car that has never been on a road course for like bush. True acts enjoy driving the new car with bigger tires. Bigger brakes and sequential paddle shifting like you see an indycar and formula one racing been pleasantly surprised more suited. I would say for road course. I think the bigger towns would be wednesday. When we get on the oval but so far so good and it's clear to true acts it's better than the current cup car yes it. Does everything a little bit better. It's a little bit easier to drive around the road course. We're having a few issues with the steering on the big track if two car bottoms out at all the steering really kinda goes haywire are working through that but otherwise it feels good and it's been really solid fun to drive so far. Newly crowned champion chase elliott will run one of the biggest super late model races in the country december. Six the fifty third running of the snowball derby in pensacola florida. Elliott won the event in two thousand eleven and fifteen meanwhile after his rookie cup campaign. John hunter nemechek has decided to leave front row. Motorsports save big money with progressive home and auto bundle. So i finally bought the new set of golf clubs to watch out. Fairway here i come. This is not a real testimonial sure. Customers can save big with progressive. Burt your other expenses won't just disappear. Are those clubs going to help you in the hot water. Heater is also it. Sounds like your money is better spent on gulf lessons. Gosh shoot the course record. No but maybe time for a reality. Check progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates from the xfinity series after the to share derided. Junior motor sports this past season. Daniel henrich now has a full-time deal. At joe gibbs racing to run the eighteen car replacing rally herbst while over it colleague racing. Jeb burton is taking over the ten car from ross chastain. Who's moving up to cop. It'll be the first time burton has run the whole schedule and went for a championship. I'm just really blessed and humbled for this opportunity and is something we've been working on unconsolidated twelve years old and started racing. Go karts to have. All this happened is drink Vre garage pass presented by progressive home. Insurance get your progressive dot com today.
EP 203003: Garage Pass
"William Byron expect when we hope to win wants to be the next new face in victory lane. We just gotta continue to bring the speed to do it, and if we get there to the final over, we may have a great chief. NPR INS garage pass. Progressive presents the sounds of the old world. The year is twenty nineteen and someone is getting up to use the bathroom at the stadium. Excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Excuse me. Squeeze here. This has been the sound of the old loan. Brought to you by progressive, we're drivers can still switch and save like it's twenty nine team. Today at Progressive Dot, com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Did you know that you can take prn with you anywhere? That's right by downloading the free PR and mobile APP. You can listen to all of our live race broadcast anywhere. You'll also have easy access to all of our award. Winning studio shows get all the latest racing information at your fingertips with a P. R. N.. Mobile APP available now in the apple APP store, and on Google play with his wife, broke expecting their second child a little girl any day now, Chad Canal will miss Thursday nights race. Race at Kansas with veteran crew chief, Keith Rawdon calling the shots for William Byron in the past, Rawdon has one cup races with Jamie, mcmurray and Casey Cain Byron, in the meantime has made ninety starts and admits to being annoyed. He's not been one of the new faces in Victory Lane. It's definitely easier to get frustrated with the fact we haven't won. I think that with our progression. We had last year at this point. Have thought we had a few more late race. Chances at it. I think we've had some cars some days. That were capable of winning. To Be Awesome News, we've had six or seven issues this year. That has really been no fault of one saying or one individual, those were some of our best racists of our chances to win, and unfortunately those kind of got washed away for us. We knows we can bring that same speed that we've had on those weekends that thanks to go wrong. We'll give ourselves a shot to win so yeah I mean we expect when we hope to win San. We just gotta continue to bring the speed to do it. Byron is now two points below the cutoff line, and the final spot to make the playoffs on points as he currently battles his teammate. Jimmie Johnson for that position the front. Front row motorsports team of Michael McDowell has been fined ten thousand dollars for a loose lug nut found following the race. Texas over two point, seven million people tuned into that event on NBC S. N. which was the second largest audience on cable this season trailing only Bristol's two point nine million on f s one you wash the outside the inside and make sure maintenances up today. Pamper your car's engine. You'll system by adding Zemach biker lubricant. Using deployed as a carrier to reach internal parts Z.. Bax Literally Soaks in metal, dispersing harmful carbon buildup. His health improved performance. Extend engine life at reduce emissions. Cemex today at the Max, DOT COM or your local auto parts store NASCAR has now made a final decision that all of the remaining race weekends including the playoff will continue without practice or qualifying after his Texas, Win Austin, Dillon has guaranteed his spot in the season ending championship chase and his team owner Richard. childress believes they could make a surprise. Run at the Title I. You gotTa. Get in. That was one go next. You gotTa make it to the next round and each time you gotTa. Make, Brown and I think if we get there to the idol sewer, we may have a great chance. The garage pass presented by Progressive Insurance. Get Your quoted. Progressive Dot com today.
Interview - Anthony Alfredo
"This is paul five weekly christie with the pylons quickly here this week with a guy who has gone from toby. Christie dot com. I racer to a fulltime cup series rookie and just a couple of seasons. How excited are you anthony. Alfredo to get your career started with front row motorsports. I'm very excited. You know it's a. It's a huge opportunity for me to go competed highest level stock car racing fulfill its childhood dream of mine with just a great people who believe in me and really made this come together. Everyone happy front. Row motorsports five jerry. All of our partners. It's very exciting. Definitely as it hit me fully yet. It probably won't tweet get the daytona but it's going to be so great compete every single week in and around a full time schedule especially at this level the cut here's get very diverse now to as far as Going more road courses and things like that. So i'm looking forward to getting more experienced overall and becoming a better race car driver and building chemistry with the right team as well. Because it's something that. I hope to be long term. You know i feel like i'm it was it was. I wouldn't call it a long road to get your fat but now a couple of almost feel like i'm i'm just starting now. You know like. I hope to start of a long term future and i am looking forward to getting the season started. Yeah definitely definitely i mean. That's that's exciting stuff for sure. Obviously with you jumping into the cup series so young with so little fulltime experience in the nascar national series level. You're going to have several people about what this guy hasn't owned a full truck series orcs series. This point. what does he deserve to be here for What do you have to say the people who are gonna be your detractors. The season well. I think the biggest thing is that. I don't have unrealistic expectation. I know that it's going to be learning curve. And i'm prepared for that. So the biggest thing is going to be working with fordham the simulator. And all my guys in the thirty eighteen to to learn as much as they can port before we get this evening chart and then from there take it week by week and Get new a rhythm. Get better and develop some sort of consistency and it'd be competitive. I'm i'm looking forward to the challenge. Like i said i already know. It's going to be You know running these longer races going to push me physically and mentally probably more than ever. I'm excited about that. And then on top of that just the experience and learning and getting more laughs than my belt's going to come join us some new race tracks And and hopefully developing something long term. Like i said. Yeah certainly certainly. Do you think that possibly going into this season as a rookie is maybe more of an advantage than it's been in years past with some of the tracks we're going to have on the schedule coda. Y- one hundred percent. I think for sure that that was you know. of course. part of the decision was Starting to develop something long term and with the new cars coming out in a year Everyone's optimistic about that and and excited about it as You know they continue to test and improve it for you know when when it raises for the first time so Learning tracks that are going to be on that schedule and getting experience with the length of raises the strategy involved to complete a cup race You know successfully and the kinds of things are going to be a huge help for you know what else would be another. Hold on when the car comes out. Yeah i think a lot of people are positioning themselves to to strike when the new car releases for the cup series for sure. Now you know. Two years ago you're making your nascar national series debut and now you fast forward two thousand twenty one. You're going to be a rookie in the cup series. When you're making that first truck series start in two thousand and nineteen. Did you ever hear wildest dreams. Imagine that you'd be a full-time cup series competitor. Just two years later. No definitely i definitely not. Probably i mean i wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I think the biggest thing that means. Just you know. I've always been focused at the at the task at hand. If that makes any sense you know. Of course you kind of have You develop what you might call a long term plan of course and and set goals for yourself they want to achieve but Especially running part time the last couple years. I've always been focused on making the most out of each opportunity. I've had because some of them have been few and far between at times and I'm just super thankful to have the opportunity. I have this year i truly feel blessed and have so many people to thank especially everyone at front row and our partners and the people behind me. It wasn't a decision made by myself. it was. You know this goes back to you. Know other team owner. The girl for everyone that you know believed in me and we all agree to great the best opportunity for me to take the next step in my career so it's Like said it's going to be a challenge. But i'm definitely excited about it and i always hoped i would get to this level but when it when that day came which today it's definitely Still pretty thrill definitely down that you you mentioned that some past car owners and other people helped you make the decision here. Were there other offers on the table for the cup series Maybe where there are some other full-time truck or extend the options on the table. As well there were some other genes. I say when the season started. And and we you know narrow down and some came and went and things like that and You know this is the one that we put his the top of the list of the best opportunity for me. And i'm really glad able to make the most of it because like i said i think it's a huge opportunity for me to grow the driver and then start developing future in the sport. Great stuff on the final lap weekly so far from anthony alfredo So where do we stand getting a A italian food sponsor On your on your car. Your name's anthony alfred. oh And it just makes sense. I think it would be a great tie in. Do you think maybe this is the year for olive garden to finally sponsor you get point definitely. We've been we've been trying to make that happen for a while now and maybe now that i'm at the top level in our sport we can work something like that out. That'd be great. I think that'd be the perfect representative and it could be marketing magic to have Have some sort of anthony's fettuccini. Alfredo or something like that. On a member of had downtown restaurant daily can see that now also e. Sports are kind of taking off anthony. And you've been kinda the forefront of that you've done a lot of streaming and things of that nature. I know in the pandemic said in that kind of accelerated things in that aspect for you as well Has that may be kind of helped you your twitch streaming and stuff like that help. Elevate you to be more kind of worthy of sponsorship In this aspect. And maybe that's why you know people want to move you to the cup series so quickly because sponsors want to attach themselves to you. Yes it hits you did level and you know it it gives opportunity per not not just myself and the driver to build my brand to you know on and off the track for our party who you mentioned the highest level so this is maximum exposure if you will for For our partners and new partnerships that we're working on so. I'm i'm excited for that too because i've always been very involved in the off track side of thing with my group behind me and team management and You know working with partners talking to new partner is an. I've enjoyed that process and You know it helps get me to this level. I feel like it's going to be able to continue to do that and and out that's really need are there any talks to maybe revitalize reinvigorate regenerate The the pro invitational series. I hope so. I hope so. I'm obviously a that was a that was a blast for me as a average and Or not average. Avid i racer its and blast. And i've always been doing doing racing competitively on the simpson. Do with other real life drivers. He's really cool and and funds for the fans it was. It was really grayson. Do that of course when we aren't when we weren't on track and real life. So i love to see us be able to continue doing that Course i have a great relationship with cincy driving simulators an ira seeing themselves so Hopefully we can do that. And we can capture some virtual during the season as well you need to maybe even get some practice or qualifying and since we don't have that the majority of season definitely definitely and You know in talking with you over the years in your way up the nascar ladder your guy who values family quite a bit but chasing the nascar dream. Your family's from candidate you've had to put a lot of things on hold. You've missed a lot of birthdays. A lot of different Anniversaries things like that does making it to the nascar cup series. Make that that Sacrifice worth it. And what does your family think about the fact that you're finally you've reached the pinnacle you you're a nascar cup series driver. What does your family think about that. Well first off does this has been Old of mine and and i've had I've sacrificed a lot. But not only myself. You know my family has and It's it's really rewarding. And i'd say it's definitely a very emotional day for my family is a whole. You gotta remember before even four born. My parents were as tending nascar races and and coming down to charlotte from new york to go visit the ray shops and see the coach. Six hundred and stuff like that so to think that. I'm gonna be racing in those very same events that they would go to sit in the grandstands watches Before i was born. And that i watched growing in is definitely surreal. I mean even. When i was racing the last two years and trump inexpensively i would still drive by girlfriend to see the darlington or the coakes hundred than any you. Can you know we could be. We were there I've always had that. You know maybe a different perspective of the sport than some just because i'm a first generation racer and and still love watching it and and enjoy so i think every time i you know it's a little bit of a different Perspective and a different appreciation. Maybe so to be here is. That's partially what makes it so. Surreal and yeah. That's that's pretty crazy. I didn't know your family was fans of the sport for that long. So that's pretty wild last question. Any who is the person that you would credit the most Four year ascension to the nascar cup series On your path up the nascar. Who's done the most for you to get you to this point definitely multiple people and it was. I got off the parenting arts. My interest in racing in You know made it pops. Each day get started rates thing and go cards in cars and eventually late models and from there on out I i honestly would thank everybody. Who might you know driven. And everyone who believes in the partner then adds of late Austin dillon and his group at team doing management austin craven and all those people as well. Because it's definitely not it's crew effort. I care and there's been multiple people involved but none of this would would have even started without my parents and Meet spartan sparking my interest in it because of the definitely definitely great stuff. Thank you so much. Anthony alfred and best of luck to you this year near rookie season nascar cup series. Thank you that means a lot and we got we get you back for me. Rl raises to. I gotta figure out what we're gonna do with them. A little bit been now. But for sure mike us at facebook dot com slash. The final lap like us.
Ep. 113 | Marty Gaunt
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Sein number billions from front. Row motorsports drivers Michael McDowell. John Hunter Nemechek and Todd Guilland even better one. Lucky winner will be chosen. Receive race tickets to join front row at the championship race in Phoenix later this year. Hey everyone welcome to the racing writers. Podcast I'm your host Kelly Crandall my guest today is Mardi gone. The owner of gone brothers racing which fields the number ninety six Toyota for Daniel swore as in the NASCAR Cup series. Jimmy has taken a big step forward in twenty twenty by making the commitment to run full time after making just thirty eight stars from two thousand seventeen through two thousand nineteen for Mardi. He's been involved in Nascar for over twenty years though in some form or fashion. And he's GonNa take us down memory lane from getting into racing. As a young boy in Canada to bring into the sport with Crevice Haas racing and learning from Roger. Penske and through the years gone has worked with teams such as Red Bull. Bill Davis Robby Gordon and Richard Petty. How got brothers racing came to be as also a bit unique so few light racing stories and are interested to know more about Martin or his operation. This is the episode for you. One thing to note. This interview was not able to be done in person as I prefer because of Cova nineteen. So you'll notice. Mardi is coming through over the phone. The conversation so great. The quality was much better than anticipated so there should be no worries there but I do like to be up front with everyone. Here is Mardi gone on the racing writers. Podcast I've was hoping we would eventually be able to do this in person but obviously the again this is our unique little reality for awhile. How are you doing now that we're a couple of weeks into the season ignoring the big fact that were not racing right now? Let's put that out of our minds. Just how are you doing over there at gaunt brothers racing few weeks into the season? Kinda just reevaluating where you guys are. Obviously now we have we. Have you know three out of four races in the bucks? Obviously they China's a was a huge disappointment for us. But you know we we have to look at it as a learning piece if you will and and move forward from there and you know Las Vegas we what? We ended up thirtieth California's Twenty Eight and Phoenix is twenty first. So you know continues. Improvement is absolutely what we let people from the beginning of the year. So we're making progress and we have still so much work to do. But you're not making progression of Las Vegas to Phoenix Mardi. What year is this for you and racing because again? I was doing some research trying to spark some ideas here and I think it's been what over twenty years now that you've been involved in racing in some form that adds some yes. I started at this myth called over twenty years in Nascar Cup where he sees you know. I started at midnight each year. Ninety came down to ninety five. Ninety six would crap is hard but I started at a very young age Back in the late seventies and Jerry Jones in Toronto Canada and then laid it in North Carolina. The yet this level since I have you five G. will yeah. Let's cover some of that so it's hard to believe though right it has to be that this is already your fourth year undergone brothers racing in the cup series so an in the Cup series. You know go back to the two thousand seventeen It's kind of ironic is. There's always a story behind something that we were preparing a car to To go to the return of five hundred and literally. We didn't have a driver so we decided that we're GONNA go down in under five hundred in two thousand seventeen and a friend of mine from back in the day to roll in Canada. Dj Tony can call me. And he was looking at least two to go down. Run the five hundred and I said Ironic. You'd call looking for an engine. The engine business about time. We try to reach technologies. Said GonNa build a car. But I don't have a driver and quickly gushing escalated and We were able to put together with With we went in that qualify. To five hundred two thousand seventeen and that's The Cup holder and get started at the up one of the things that I found interesting when I was looking over the website. Actually it has a nice biography of you on there but what? I have to admit one of the most interesting things that I found on there and you had mentioned at the top. There was racing in Canada. And I. I don't know why but I just started laughing. I said I didn't know I didn't realize that he had do you come from Canada or were you just racing in Canada because I thought that was fascinating Literally I'M A. I'm a citizen of a tree country. I was born in Alabama. Jamie emigrated to Canada and I was Grew UP IN TORONTO. The suburbs Until Ninety five yes. I grew up in in Outside of Toronto we raced all around the The tracks Ontario sunsets be way Lambros Anyway at Columbia speedway. And that's where we we learned how to race in the late seventies and then she And and Are Lucky enough to My oldest brother John He started racing at a young age and he decided to take me a long term his very first race in nineteen seventy eight. And that's where you know. I was one of those guys when to the racetrack at a young age of thirteen. And I knew right away is what I wanted to do and I fall in love with the sport passion for it ever since so we. We started racing street stocks back then that were built in my parents garage. Another two car garage. We had a house in the suburbs of Of Richmond Hill Ontario and they were just so delighted that you're able to build a car in over. Is it GonNa late hours of the night and all kinds of stories? Go along with that but so we grew up. You know building her own cars and racist street stocks. The sports model cars in the eighties and the nineties Then we started Gracie me back. Then which was the gas car series which is now the NASCAR pinky series that was the terrain series of race all over Ontario Western Canada. We raised in all BURDA Scotch. Y British Columbia so we raise some coast to coast and Canada. And two things to do Growing up in Canada living passions hockey which we did and racing cars and you can see that now when we grew up there arista trucks. You know. Canadian Tar Boers Sports Park. How many passionate Bhaskar Change? We have in Canada and a lot of folks. Don't realize that but there's a lot of good. You know Saturday night racing. Limb of Great Borings and Jerry on Western native as a diary for the first time you hit on two things. I wanted to touch on there. Which is you mentioned that you went to a race. And that's how you got interested in it. So racing really wasn't something that was familiar to you until you were taken to the race track and fell in love with it so we grew up typical Canadian. We escape before we can walk and we play hockey every chance we could remember. This is beyond dating myself years ago. We used to play hockey local parks and their parents would take turns on going and comical fire department flood the outflow club the parks and we will play hockey that at the parts of the Universe Street. And there's no snow. We played you know Street hockey so we grew up playing hockey. And you know I'm the youngest of five so my dad was very busy taking all the different hockey rinks weekends and throughout the week so all of us kids could play hockey so we grew up doing that. And then my oldest brother. He's at six years over the NIAMH and He he had a passion for cars When you discovered stock hurry and he came home and told us all about this one race. He went to and that's what he was going to. Who's going to build a car and Like I said I'm young men sit at the table. Said if you go I wanNA go so Lucky enough the first time he ever went to to the racetrack. he Loaded me in the back of a station wagon. They had that was Tovia. Go back then. We didn't even have a traitor. We used to call the flexible trailer which was a chain and the chain hooked on the front of the race card behind the station wagon. We dragged out car up and down. You know down the road to turn. Local retract sunset speedway. We'll be started racing that I seventy so. How did your driving career go? Yes so my brother drove you know. Obviously I used to have a license. He he he troll. For a number of years He receives successful. I should say that he region successful driver Out of the The two of us like the youngest the oldest By my brothers in between did not the not driving. They came to watch. But they didn't really have an interest In motorsports idea about my oldest brother John so he most of the regime toll. By sixteenth birthday led the globe race car. Funny Story about a I remember doing laps and and Practice and hinge racecard. I'm sixty and I know he's like he's pointing he's pointing and I'm looking into the courtroom thinking. Oh He's waving good job. Well the realize after I've done four blocks and pulled into the pits that he was yelling screaming that I hadn't taken out of first gear so luckily had blown up his at blowing up his car for me. He said if you ever going to drive again it's going to be your own car. You know drive by equipment so I decided to go home with his how I built a car. Also and I race for out of those four or five years. I did okay. I was not near as does not wise I E he was burning up all the short tracks around Ontario by Alka four or five years until I think I would private six banks more money than my My little race team has worked decided that I should probably stick the business side of it and and get out of the sea so I ran into hoping you know. Run the team because we starting to read the first series Crew cheap team manager for small Saturday night small Saturday night which will and decided I was going to stick with the business side of racing and not focus on driving. You hit on something when you were talking about racing and Canada. So Motor. Sports and racing and Canada are were as big back then as they are now. It's not something that is new today. That fans here about the pinch series and you mentioned the truck race. A cat up in in most sport motorsports in Canada. It sounds like has always been a pretty popular has been great rates Takeda. And if you look at like a race attracts now up decorating motorsports park which previously was mosque for the beast. Run wondering is there and if you look at Montreal and you know yet one race it's run there today and run there for many years and you knew who came from Canada. Short track racers Junior Hanley you know. I was Fortunate enough in the mid nineties how I ended up in the states which the Canadian rates. You're by the name of Peter. Gibbons would you very very talented and I always used to say to Peter. You're a great race car. Driver departments were in the wrong country. Because we're looking at a gain of that and even have the opportunities that you know everybody who's down to the states and and even sports incarcerated Harker cars. I came down with them starting at Busch team back in the nineties but no we had some great race car drivers instead due to come up through. Canada and the great audience of Canadians. That have a huge passion for motorsports so he was always there but again growing up as a youngster and candidate was more hockey. Until you start you know looking out in the rising sea routes of sports and we found that we've got motor sports when you moved to Sarla in the late nineties. He was around ninety six according to the website. Where you just taken a chance at that point did you have? You mentioned the role with Cranford Haas racing. Did you already have that lineup or did you move to Charlotte just taking a chance to try and find something in motorsports? I took a chance and took a big risk my daughter at the time there was one years When you're old and It was myself. My brother-in-law decided we were going to do it. I had a stable profession job at a company called Canadian tire. Which is you know very large in Canada. And I left there after ten years and side of that. I wanted you know pursue motorsports full-time I wanted to dip in a cup series. I wasn't quite sure how I was going to do that. But I do what my passion was and I knew there's opportunities I had to be north. Carolina could've been tried. It had a lot of people. Tell me crazy and still today. Still Tell me laugh. That's that's okay so I figured it was worth the risk so In Ninety five we let it up and we We go to To Moseman Carolina with the help of Peter Gibbons because he was gonNA racing car sorry Bush car back then and we started the team. We literally had Peter Purchasing property. And we're going to raise the bursaries following year so we were working on the car at night. Bill shot during the day so we came down. And you know you're here. I think three or four months in in Mooresville Before we even went back home. It's our families and I went backwards and I think Christmastime of year so we went through. I believe with ninety. Five setting-up Bush team and we got to the end of ninety five and unfortunately motorsports dictate a lot of sponsorship and Peter's sponsors I decided to dip it right so he was left without sponsorship and He was You know looking at moving back to Canada and my brother-in-law Marie Tim and I said we wanted to stay. So Murray literally went over to Hendrick motorsports and Applied for job and got hired right away. He's still there today. And I said that I was GONNA look around at some other cup future getting started and I came across microcredit. Critics entrees Gordon to ninety six. So lucky enough that Michael took a change on me That I did not have the experience at the Cup level. You know again the bull ring rates motoracing up in Canada and then You know we've run the Bush team for you and I told Michael My background from business and racine and took a chainsaw and literally don't launch That launched my career in To the ninety seven Creditas Ray. The name for some might be vaguely familiar when it comes to that program the Crevice Haas racing team. But you guys had a robby Gordon. Jeremy Mayfield John. Andretti as drivers remind folks who may vaguely be thinking. I recognize that program or that sounds familiar just on the program and your success. What was going on? I mean again. The drivers you guys had come through. There are recognizable names. So you know. Extreme Carl Carl's Newman owned. Maybe car team They were stolen cars for for the dregs. Right for Maryland. Michael and and and and lots of great racers And then he'd started this Upkeep WITH MICRO-CREDITS WHO FORMER AHEAD OF S. B. O. Special Vehicle Operations for Ford Motor Company. So they decided. We're going to start this of this. Woodson Winston Cup team back then and the first driver. you're absolutely correct. Bobby goal that. I believe you're in Michigan. And maybe a couple of other races before they'd arrived at the time and then They had hired on Jonah dirty and it was number thirty seven and they have Little CAESARS and K. Mart for response or and actually a story behind that to which a lot of folks might not know is I asked. Michael was probably a couple of years after a day with Microsoft. How did you come up with a number thirty seven you know? Everybody has a story of war number. Thirty seven and Michelson it's easy. I said okay. I love to hear the story numbered the car. Thirty seven for two of of of my heroes. He says the greatest driver ever lived. Garin hurt and seven Alan quick because Alan Quirke was a driver. And that's how he came up with thirty seven and I was like. Wow you've got a lot of thought and how this process works and how you pick. The number and Michael was a very deep thinker. He was very analytical on. How are we gonNa have you read about things? And there's a lot of thought through all his decision so anyhow so the John Andretti driven a car in ninety six which is the first full time year and then they actually did a driver slop that John Andretti over to kill. Yoga's drive the ninety eight Jeremy Mayfield. Carryovers came over to drive that thirty seven and So we went into a ninety seven with a K. Mart RC Cola and. We had a decent year. I mean flashback. I remember going to Daytona. That was my first race with the team in nine seven and we have to qualify for the race. I mean now you fast forward to two thousand twenty the accident. Same thing when he difference back then. I was the team manager of the team. That the general manager. I wasn't the owner right so I did realize amendment stress level goes from GM the ownership where we have to qualify for the race which we did. And don't call me. The numbers we had met has fifty plus cars show up to try to qualify for the Daytona. Five hundred and so we had A. We had a good. You had the ice. They're decent year Paul Andrew said commodity crew chief. Then you're you're steadily building the program I think we had twenty slide. People back then closer to the For the team and then tonight and she was nineteen ninety eight the end of ninety seven. I should say Carl Haas decided to sell his fifty percent share. The Roger Penske and the team became penske credit. This racing at the nineteen ninety. Two car team trustee was thirteen and that went on from ninety eight and beyond into the queue thousands and then micro decide to saw his fifty percent on the team in two thousand two. Roger penske racing and how the two twelve car got laid out. I can I I. You mentioned it. You know being in charge of an operation that had to have been an eye-opener you mentioned some of the stresses they are just of being in a position like that had to have been just an eye opener of what it takes to run a cup series program. We're lucky enough. We want our First Cup race. Pocono nine hundred ninety eight with no other than dealer and her win. Which was quite the dramatic win so yeah the scene all the things that were involved back then word where it's about today is being the monumental task. I'm just not on the team. Side by the spurs sanction by the everybody. Who's involved but the decisions that go along with that and you know kind of have things don't pay there's so many different variables in the winter making decision. you know how you build a car and how you get to carve the race shocking. You know who you hire. How many people you hire. It's just a constant so I was. I was lucky enough to learn so many things from From microcredit from Roger. Penske you know I. I can recall when When they decided to put the two teams together Glenn Ninety Eight and Roger Michael held a meeting down over of that was the name of it The back then and with an eight hours we started in the morning. I don't think anybody ever enough to compensating Nobody ever per meal up and was brought in to leave the hours. Roger and Michael out orchestrated how to put two cars in the one team. Now remember since. Nineteen ninety. Eight wasn't a lot of multi. Car Teams had a multi cartoon. I believe Roche was there was one or two others. But there's not a lot and watched him how he said. Okay this time to build agent and so we're going to manufacture car. This is how we're going to travel this. You know accounting all the aspects of it. We're GONNA do licensing so again. Learning learning from those folks is in is is something that you know you can never put a price on and I was just so grateful and that that had the opportunity to either of y'all all that unveil real and how we rolled it out and later on in life I can still dirk use those lessons. Learned years ago to apply. How would you know today? I was Gonna ask that because along the way you also. I believe. Were involved with red bull racing. Richard Petty Bill Davis Robby. Gordon racing. But do you think you were storing away information and lessons learned that even if at the time? You didn't think you were going to have your own program. Maybe but do you believe you were storing away information lessons that you would apply one day and whatever role as you kept going with your career things that you learn to stir daylight for about That you don't realize of the year two years or ten years down the road but you know today I still look back of lessons. Learnt and and you know there's there's an old saying learn you learn more from your mistakes you burqas and you know Hewlett Packard. You know meager should not different. These are the circumstances over delta. This information has a time issue all the facts that they had but yeah with without all the experiences that I was able to gain. I don't know if I make the same by says she making process would be today or having gone through those lessons. Learned from the. It's called the twenty five years but again I I was mocking. You know rich fortunate that I was around some of the greatest people motorsports and to your point county not realizing the back that you know. It's it's I remember. Rescue also told me a story years ago I started to Atlanta. He finished second or third like that and he said I thought this stuff was gonna be easy and then he came by and got a reality check. So you know I. I was lucky right the same kind of situation. I was lucky that I had a larger scheme. Microcredit business so many others again working with an independent like Robby Gordon. The way he does things and looks at things and it Powell petty. I mean people that have just been. They've lived motorsports to her lines. So I was fortunate to be able to so many different things along the way. How do things the right way and how not to do things You know when when you should move forward and maybe sometimes when you should pause and today I still back. Those lessons learned and apply them on a daily basis was ownership. Something that had already crossed your mind during these times when you're working with these other organizations or when did the light bulb go off and you say okay I I see the stresses and I see what it takes. I'M GONNA put myself through that when when did it become When did the light bulb go off? Martier you said okay. I want to have my own operation. A great question Kelly. So crazy town's today is being introduced by Michael Creditors you know in nineteen ninety six. He asked me what do I want to do in five years and I told him I wanna be in your chair. And he doesn't he was right. It took a la took a lot longer than five years. No I knew I mean what I wanted to do. I knew event wanted to own a team any on back then I was naive right like I wanNA. I WANNA own a team. I'm going go. I'm GonNa find a sponsor and hired keep on the way we go well when I got really integrated into the sport and how difficult so many things are. I think that dreams turned away. That was ever going to happen to be in the nineties. I was more than content on you. Know running the team for for Michael. Working with Roger Penske and having you know drivers that we had watching a guy like rusty wallace who was one of the great. You know as the P. May so those aspirations kind of went away for a while but they came back became back probably seventy years later and you know working with Kyle for a little bit and encounter. Come talk he's just a great guy he's just he's he's a great humidity. There's call petty and the race car is called. Patio outside the car. I mean he's a great guy and you know even today when I run into Kyle at the race track and comes by always got a great story is always got pettis file. And he's always got a you know a great outlook on life and there. Is You know some some of those Sunday morning conversations with Powell and you're watching the time there were struggling with with this with this team but history that petty enterprises motorsports had throughout the entirety of Nascar and watching what they built there. And you were running well on the racetrack. You know they were running a very strong business that you will and I think then for whatever reason collect those you know I would really like to get into the ownership side of things and one thing led to another an mkx trinity happened that I got introduced to a young driver by the name of rating. With and you know through that. I work with a little bit in bed. I know in Robby Gordon for years. I've met in back. Could you know Michael Curtis and Robbie said Hey. I want to get this. You know this Bush keep going. He was driving. It are CR and I can help you do that so I started work with Robbie and in the same time Brandon. Whitt and one thing led to another and next to you know reforming to start racing the truck series and the witch paddle for new and You know they. They wanted to go full time truck racing and I had asked where he's getting my ownership walk kind of concrete. He the NASCAR and I said okay. Let's let's put this together so we became partners and the team was. I called Clean Lime mortar sports which eventually turned into red horse racing. But that's how it all got started an ownership when you was going back to two thousand four now on the the tricksters. Yeah it's again in amazes me to look around and read the biography of just how involved you've been before we get to gaunt brothers racing and currently what's going on. I wanted to hit on one hundred thing as you're making your way here through the years you mentioned you go to the truck series. Get involved with red horse racing. But then you got away from the team stuff for a little bit because you mentioned earlier when we were talking about triad racing and you went and got on the manufacturer's side. Was that one of those things where just an opportunity you wanted to explore or the decision on stepping away from the team side and then going to affect the manufacturer side that would that was an interesting piece. The manufacturing side obviously was Was Building Engines. And not already Gregory's by W agents per and having that partnership and obviously you know I. I had a relationship the Toyota folks. Because if you back up you know Mike. My tea became a charity team. And and Red Bull where your team? Also their partner of ours at At Red Bull so already had those relationships and I saw the opportunity of triad and building engines and manufacturing piece of equipment and then treated so you know obviously that was away when we purchased the triad racing technologies. And you know we did that for ten years but I can tell you after about a year so building Indians. I still had this drawbacks to do you know ownership side of things on on the team side. Because I've always had passion to to be a team member to be. You know to be part of the team. She you know when the team on the team whatever. The case may be of always had that so when we when we purchased triads and started you know. manufacturing engines for You know true to support teams and partners about a year later. I remember having this with With David Wilson from from charity. I said no date. You know businesses as well We're winning races and sitting on polls by Mr Team sign and he said what are you thinking and I said well you know my my brother. John started in racine in and like the storm team. Get back if you will love racing in Canada and and obviously our focuses on building engines but curtain. Oh weekend here or there might Might go run in the in the Canadian pinky series and had my brother died the car which she was great on the ovals but he didn't like Didn't like racing the courses too much or didn't like him yards. And so we got Jason Bowles. Yeah see you drive on the On the road courses and We we started racing up in Up in Canada and the and the rookie series and limited that how GB are was horn was a gift bag. Brother John for you know a brother. The brother under his wing and showed him a sport that ultimately became it became my passion. And and my. Let's harder Marty. Is it harder to work with teams on a team as a member? You know running an organization being team owner or is it harder to work with teams when you're on? The manufacturer side charter will teams. You're on the manufacturer's side they won't hesitate because when when you're on the team side and you're g member or teenager gentleman's or whatever the case may be your heart of that organization right so when it comes to make a decision hard decisions right you you you can gather all the facts that that you have and you make those decisions right based on on what you have in front of you when you're manufacture your manufacturing partner piece for the team right so in a way. I wouldn't say you know only not the correct bourbon senior outside. You're not really. You'RE GONNA temporal part of the cheap but your benefactor part for them and it was like week after week. How many guys you want. How many policies had on your always criticise? You're always want you want more of the year and you always want more power. The thing I learned on the Union Side County is at the injured breaks. You cannot fix it and the car wrecks. You've got a good chance that you can fix your race in the back of their rights. The engine breaks the races over forever for everybody. And there's no worse feeling Immonen sports for me personally. When one of our engines would break. 'cause I'm like you're just taking the opportunity away from from that team from competing so it is much harder on the manufacturer's side Engine business is a very hard gooney business especially when you're new manufacturer you're going to be ugly for more than one team to. You're watching all those teams and something goes wrong as an angel providers and better. You feel personally responsible for what happened. Even though about spring could have broken for some random apartment wrong or GLOCESTER radiator water in age as I already way the engine blew up and all that went through the radio. The ladder came wants to know about story that he just no you agent blew up so it's a lot harder on the manufacturer side than than it is on the side for sure so. Jpr brothers racing you started with Canaan in the penalty series. What was the original roadmap when you started your own organization? This is your team. I'm doing it now. This is I'm going to be in charge. What was the original roadmap? When you started with cannon pinches was it to start small and then forward or kind of what were you laying out when you first decided okay. I'm full on now team ownership. Yes I'd love to tell you the Great Road Map if he had led the Sri the business plan. But I'm just GONNA be honest. We didn't have one we just said we're GONNA do this and literally give back to my brother John because he he didn't have a ride and I said you know what we're going to start a team for you and there was no plan then was like we're GonNa Race. That's our passion that's enjoy doing. We're GONNA put this team together. We'RE GONNA go run some races and of course you know one thing led to another. We ran some races. We had some success and decided that we were GonNa you know this. Cayenne car in going to go to the stage race in Radio Tweet. The accurate a showdown and it turned out. I'm Portuguese two thousand eleven and Jason. Bows you got to know a little bit draws a couple of racist force in Canada Montreal and in Moscow. You know he'd come from that neck of the woods deep in California. You run those each cars and I said to my brother. I think we're proposing this car and Let's go to the tortoise showdown and see what we could do it. So we went out there and we're apertures second practice and unflinching retired and crashed. The car had been at the backup car. I can't recall women qualified. Twenty th or something and. I thought we were doing well to do that. Because again there was a lot of cars showing up these events and we were lucky enough to win the race and a bike apologies bulls so from there. I think what happens like okay? Yup impact some success. And then you know that means going right so then we decided well what what's our next and it kind of was nor truck race here there and you know whenever we could because our main focus you know for for from two thousand and eight to two thousand eight. You know sure we. Gb are started with the running. You know an east race truck race here and there was was made a faster engines. You couldn't take our high off the ball on on. This is what you know. You WanNa give them your forward which was making sure that we're building race-winning engine so while we had the team going kind of in different acts mortgage you go until we turn to wake up in the two thousand seventeen movies that are we`re. GonNa we're GONNA START Cup rates in the years in between we put it in idle. Yeah so it sounds like there really wasn't kind of a thought or a process of hayward just going to go cup racing league that was just the why not. Yeah no obviously that was back restarted Joe Cannon and the wind on Saturday night race but yeah well when we started on the upside and we're looking at the landscape a nats car you're looking at probably what was going to be coming down the line for aging wise and how it's GonNa factor into business of having those discussions for few years and You know from our perspective. You're a great motor sports and you started making what's next right. So we're not gonNA build agents anymore and we knew that was coming you know. What do we want to do? And that's it right away. I want to be on the team side. So let's look at. We're GONNA do this. We want to come and literally at the end of your sixty when we made that decision. That's when I started putting a plan together that when we had the plan for me said okay. Let's their feet wet here for pro toes in the water. So let's see about building a cop car for seventeen and we started putting that those planes in motion if you will and then Levy. I got the call. Dj Teddington about he was looking for agent. And I said I'm pro team together and within a few weeks decendants toner and that was to go out and see okay. I mean there's so many pieces per team together. It's getting all the equipment together. It's the people which is the biggest thing getting processes and two thousand seventeen. Allow us to do that. Pretty those things together then obviously back again eighteen DJ And and we're able to qualify for the five hundred in racist through Eighteen that we had Gernhardt committed I can jump around like twelve or thirteen races force in two thousand and an eighteen and we had some bouts of Szeswith jeopardy and still building our team and then you're lucky enough to put a deal together for two thousand nineteen with Parker Clinger Cohen and sat down with Parker. And I think it was December of several EP looking in the nineteen twelve park of yours by playing. This is what I'm trying to do. And the eventual is. I want to get this car full time and Parker was a great building block for. Gv are and just his way. He goes about being prepared for a race and his thought process he was he was perfect. Guy The perfect time where we went to the two thousand nineteen Okay we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA run the Daytona five hundred in our plan and along the way you know we're GonNa make sure that we have opportunities and and really wet which took US obviously writing to two thousand twenty now that you're a few years into team ownership with GB are. Is there something that has stood out that you didn't expect to being a team owner? Is there a misconception? That quickly fell by the wayside. Ors Or anything that just stands out now a few years in to running your own company. There's one thing positive evidences. Hey there's an ops gordon thank you you. Try TO BE PROACTIVE. And making sure you have all your planes and everything in place before you actually get to the racetrack. Then there's a lot of the reactive great so obviously not making the return of five hundred was a reactive piece. Y'All stay together with the plan to go to China and on the race in the back of my mind that there's a possibility yes and you know. We talked all of our partners about that before every the biggest risk is going to be Daytona. You know again. I've been lucky enough and have the opportunity to learn so much along the way that I've seen you know the highs and the lows of motor sports and there's GonNa be a lot. More Moser is high because you can't win every week. Obviously there's only one winter so you gotta be prepared you know you're GonNa hope for the best and prepare for the worst. You know it's it's it's it's a cup scored right so you know. It isn't like any other sport defeated sponsorship. Which is you know is is a task so so there's so many different areas of the team. You know you have the competition side. Which is you know. Which is the people in the parts? And then you've got your relationship side you're with corporate partners you're factors there's marketing there's licensing does apparently so there been one area you know two questions popped up and said. Oh you know that's dealer that's a that's a roadblock or massive Schema. Haven't done it. I think. Sometimes it just GonNa pack of one by one and make the best decision plan and you gotTa just always keep moving forward. So I don't know if there's really been anything that's come up and said Oh my goodness that you know the biggest one is probably the latest one right so again I go back to five hundred but that really took the The wind out of ourselves but probably within forty eight hours. You know twenty four to forty eight hours. We're going to be better prepared to go to Las Vegas. So it's a hard and it's a monumental task on on on starting to team but you know we all stayed together. You Know Redo the risks that we were up against but we also know that called two three five years down the down the line but the rewards can be so you know. We separate those arrests of decided that we're going to go a few more things for your. Mardi just close the book on Daytona. Something that I wanted to follow up on the owners press conference you were put on a brave face. I gotTa admit when you came in and talked to us but one of the things you had said was. You weren't sure at the time. How big of a setback missing the Daytona? Five hundred was going to be so again now. There were a couple of weeks for move just to close the door on that. Are you able to kind of paint a little bit of a better picture for us on what that did to the team? I think it was a bigger shock to be totally honest with you at the time Kelly. So speaking with you today when the times we've brought it up since we've updated so it was hard to swallow at Daytona but the best medicine for us was mindy giving off Vegas. So was it a setback. Yes but the way I look at it. Keep out Daniel out of our partners calms co- Coca Cola Toyota G. R. D. It's behind us. I mean I'm reminded weekly by our friends. Attorney David Wilson. He's like you've improved you might. They Ran California. You know. I'm I'm disappointed in somewhere embarrassed. He said Yeah but week before you didn't run as a you're absolutely correct so at Las Vegas we've got to California and we're twenty eight. We got to a Phoenix twenty first. So it's behind us. There was a setback. Then it has an expected us As crazy that sounds moving forward. You know there's a financial peace that goes along with that that you know Didn't happen and not happen. But that is what it is right. And we can't change result and that that's behind and alerted just look out the Bug Vinci of and say what's in front of us and what's the next objective. We've got Iran one of the things that Daniel has said. He's been very honest in admitting. Hey I'm not a patient person but this is a process. Obviously you mess. You mentioned there a few times now. The progress from one race to another the results have been better. So are you a patient person? Mardi or do you Do you understand as long as you've been doing this that it is going to be a process to get everybody on the same page and just get those results and you know for somebody like Daniel who still learning everybody's names you know Do you have the patience to understand that? This is going to take some time. I I have more. I have more patients than the Daniel. I can tell you that. But it's okay. Daniels. Young. He's aggressive Risk driver right so you know that. Can't be my mentality that I run out of patience 'cause if you've run out of patience or pine very quickly so. I have to be patient. Now there's some times inside of me that I'm impatient but I can't show them right so you know. Obviously you know Daniel wants to go faster. You know and Next week previous week. We're all about that. We're all onboard with that. But you have to understand too that you know gain you can you can. Joe Gibbs racing in Stewart Haas. We've had this discussion several times right. He came from a team. That's been established for twenty plus years when they both won championships in raising our sort of one bulk win championships and and everyone races and Saddam. We have none of those none of about we are. We are building a team. So Daniel is a is a huge piece of our building block because he can advance us and his knowledge and dragging full-time on the circuit canal. We haven't had a fulltime driver. So Dana took a chance on coming to GB are and helping US progressives team and sometimes during the race you know he can get a nation and but you know what Jarvis do. That's what makes you know. Great drivers right all impatient at. They're all patient. It probably all finish those thirty fifth week and so again as long as we keep progressing week by week I think I think gain back And when we get an x ray track that we you know we progress a little more weekend and we don't then we're going to the right. You're on the right direction. I can have more patients because again I can look back on my experience. All we back to the nineties when I was a credit for sauce and try to make the Daytona five hundred right in in in nineteen ninety seven and then fast forward to starting your own truck team and knowing the trials and tribulations parts of pieces of people you have to put together to get that thing up and ready to red bull when when we started and we ran you know the old car and and and and the Lucar all right keycard the same year and unfortunately we miss racing here but so many so you know so many other new teams are coming into the sport at that time so I can learn from it I can look back about and go you know what those days pass but you gotta learn from your mistakes and you got to build on it so with that. I have more patience the years go on you. Hope he gains more weight them. And you can leave all that and you know. Daniel hasn't been exposed to that like I said he came from Joe Gibbs and Stewart Haas very well race winnings dot established organizations and. We're we're not there yet by any means so I think You know him. Being impatient is okay. 'cause I you know I don't know if we really want a patient driver inside the car. Could you get your race result? So I'm okay with that. Explain to people so one of the things that I've said for a couple of weeks now is because yes. Brothers racing goes from part time the last couple years to now fulltime and I feel like that can't be Stated enough because I want if you could. Marta explain to people. The challenges of team like yours going from running part time to full time because it's not as simple as saying we're going to do it so explains a fans y so challenging and why this is going to be a process figured the the biggest challenge and they challenged repay everyday if the people aspect of this court is getting all the correct people into place and that was not done overnight so obviously we started late you know. We started in January. We didn't we didn't start building team at the end of last year which would have been November December those two or three months runway to get your Daytona. There's there's a lot to be done for that. So we were literally out you know trying to recruit people and big January. Were all the people that were available for. You know twenty twenty beyond had already jobs and other positions with other teams so that is the hardest piece of it right now. Going part time full time we all go buy parts pieces and treks interpreters for the most part and we had a lot of those in place for part time. The biggest thing is the personnel and people are what make NASCAR cars go again. You know we're up against teams that have been racing. You're twenty five years. They were so we have the parts of pieces. That are Joe Gibbs for Stewart Haas or hendrick or row and eat though but they've been pretty knows parts and pieces in place for years along with the personnel so we replicate. It's called too big blocks parts and pieces of depot but the people part outweighs the parts and pieces because if you have the knowledge that people that know what to do with the car. I it's you know I've said this for years right so a car actual racecard sell. It doesn't have any feelings. You can't hurt his feelings. It's a bunch of steel with wheels and parts and pieces on it but people you can hurt their feelings and everybody's different and everybody has a personality and and trying to get back to work altogether. That is a secret sauce if you will the vix race to go and we're up against time so that will come but it takes time for that but I have two more things for your Mardi. I appreciate all this time. Shed some insight for fans who may not know much about the operation and just explain. How many employees you have. I know you've got a great shop over there Mooresville. I haven't had a chance to see all of it but I did get to stop by last year when I was talking to Parker. So just explain your your space what you got going on and just shed some insight for fans on just. I guess the size of your operation. We run our team of a smaller. Keep in dead air kind of look back and at you look around and you try to learn from other people and try and see what the do right. What the wrong. Everybody looks at everything and trying to make the best decision that you can. So you know we're we're eighteen thousand. We have approximately thirty plus people and in our place but we do what I call on. A third party supplies right. Said we don't HANG BODIES LEESON THAN THIRD PARTY. We don't you know obviously be built. Engines traded gre or partner there the other agents force and we have their party survives with transmissions years. So we're looking at me. Assembly in the car. If you look at it like how they do it over indycar chassis supplied or you buy one chassis for all for all the competitors you you both your parts and pieces on the car. That's that's a model. That's how we do it. I love the way the seventy eight cars used to have their model that they literally focus on. You know pretty near car together. Same thing show to supply their engines and Joe Gibbs you're with US JOE GIBBS SAFAI over the mall a group of the guys changing patterns so we're not a big operation at all but I look at the seventy eight as an example as a model and see how they did it and how successful they were and it came down to you. Know they they didn't have you know the biggest fanciest shop in the In the industry but they had they a shop that worked very well for them and the really good people that worked at seventy eight car and they were very successful. So I try to model or operation off authen- and again if you look back at some you know I'm just using the seventy s in his anger there's many teams that started out like we did and they've you know they've built their program up solely. I think a lot of people look at those operations. Go Home Seventy eight Martin to actually be one races and championships as you need. Look back ten years and and see some of the struggles that they had those things. Don't come overnight so remodel or operation around that small model where the third party vendors suppliers vice with parts of Jesus and we focus on building the car together and looking on average even resources. One last thing for your Mardi. I'll get you out of here on this question so looking ahead trying to you know not necessarily predict the future but if you could script it when you start looking at the future of brothers racing now that you've taken this next step by becoming a full time team. What do you hope is in the future for your operation? What do you hope this team can become as you guys? Keep moving forward and making that progress. Vn end result is when when he races winning championships. And that's that's the goal that that is you know the roadmap and the business plan could G VR. But along the way for that to happen. There's a lot of pieces that have the tradition and lucky enough. You know you talk about Connecticut. Game of behind you know on the personnel side and the parts of pieces one thing. We're very very fortunate about it is that we've got great partners. I mean we wouldn't even have had the conversations opportunities to start twenty twenty and then full-time on for Dvr if we didn't hug traded gre and our other partners com school coke with of those folks. That doesn't happen so you know those are the guys who collectively you know said. Hey we can put this together and we can make this work but you have to have a future and yet stop and build upon that. So you know. We've got great partners right now. Obviously we WANNA keep them for years to come and we gotta look at. How do we? How do we build with them along the way so we can get to a place? Where you know Joe Gibbs today or enter kids penske and DOTS is GonNa take some time but really when it comes down to it it's it's two partnerships that you have because without those there really isn't any other opportunities to Detailed your Jeep Marty. I greatly appreciate all the time that you've given me today. Hopefully we can talk again sometime soon. In person in the future and it's been a blast getting to see how far this teams come so thank you so much for doing this. Thank you Kelly. Appreciate it all right back here to wrap things up. Thanks to Mardi for the near our. We spent together recently and the stories that he told when I brought up this idea to Lisa Hughes Kennedy from Toyota another person. I want to thank for helping. Get this interview scheduled. Her response was Marty has a great story. I didn't doubt her but now having spoken to Marty. I'm really glad we did the interview and was able to learn. Just how great and fascinating. 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