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Albon Replaced by Perez in Red Bull's 2021 Line-Up
"First topic for discussion today. Something actually we chat about quite regularly last year. But i haven't had the chance to go in depth on the costs over the christmas and new year break. I'm not reports driver lineup. Now of course we now know that. Sergio perez has been signed to partner. Max for slapping while. Alex album is team last year. And so the second half of two thousand nine hundred has been made. The team's reserve driver album also compete in the revamped. Dm category in twenty. Twenty ways efan commitments. Allow this and we understand. He'll be driving a ferrari. Four eight eight. Gt three alongside rebel genius liam northern. How big a hit. The think being mighty back to reserve driver an out formula one in terms of racing for at least a you know a whole calendar year. How do you think that how big hit that. he's f f one ambitions. yes he can. I think that it is so different when we saw by pierre gasoline daniel via meet similar fight when they were sent back to toro rosso and that them released the chance kind of rebuild that career and keep racing in athlon keeps it of all not rada christine made clear a few weeks folded station and the end of the season. That if alvin didn't get a rebel safe next year he will be our. Beth won't completely on on the sidelines. Although the team has said he's gonna be undertaken an extensive testing and development program with a view to twenty twenty. Eight doesn't really give much of a chance to actually sort of show. Boy he can do in really strike back and before about something the by them caveat when he made his his second comeback with taurasi s scoring podium nine and of cpi guiseley to an enormous two great right away three twenty twenty that were both able to rebuild and get these big results. The made everyone go. Oh well they're still decent. They're still performing and day. She for the albany. He doesn't really have the opportunity and going into a very sort of new. Dtm series with the gt three rules that they're updating ultimately not raced in ten tops. Ever i don't think so. I think that's going to be a big change for him and yeah i think it's just a it's it is a real big sat back and i think the full red bull i think just got say i don't really see what he goes from hits bonus nothing gets allows useful. Okay he's going to be playing such a big role in that too much to development. I think unless peres absolutely stinking year in that say realistically red bull going to be looking out. But if someone's come back with twenty twenty because are they need. Wii the perez goes beyond the initial one year contract. He signed or they'll look further into janea program if he's not has an amazing first year without tariff some let your e bits really stand out. I don't know me album just seems in this way. It's sort of purgatory state right now. I don't know where he's actually gonna
Charley Pride, a country music Black superstar, dies at 86
"Musician Charlie pride has died in Dallas of complications from covert nineteen he was eighty six I marches are a letter with a look at his career Charlie pride is an American success story he was a sharecropper's son who plan to get out of the cotton fields by playing baseball because he saw Jackie Robinson do it pride was good enough for the major leagues but he got injured he took up country music and had more than thirty number one country hits pride said back in nineteen ninety three he did not see why the fact that he was black should matter when I first thought I was colored city I went from color Negro to black and now Matt Rosso all these kind of things is what is ingrained in our cyber so caller hung up
"rosso" Discussed on NewsRadio 1020 KDKA
"Scott Stiller Rosso worthy of any issues on roadways and right now I'm checking the PennDOT cameras a parkways are moving along fairly well the biggest thing you're gonna have to deal with maybe some rain in spots so just exercising caution if you have to head out and about that everything looks good over on twenty eight if you're headed up toward the Allegheny valley sixty five you have a traffic regulation the keys rocks bridge our next report at two fifteen from the Presbyterian senior Kerr network traffic center I'm Scott Stiller on newsradio ten twenty KDKA and at two OO six time to get you the best bathroom you always wanted at re back to go to rehab dot com yeah at the minute accu weather forecast brought to you by Ireland contracting call one eight hundred new roof or Ireland contracting dot com rain tapering off through this afternoon with high temperatures topping out at forty eight degrees dry tonight with a low of thirty for some sunshine to start off the day tomorrow then trending cloudy through the afternoon with a high of fifty two for accu weather I'm meteorologist Matt bans on news radio ten twenty KDKA it's a lot more to Plano use code radio for twenty percent off and free shipping at Manske dot com that code radio for twenty percent at Netscape dot com thinking about life insurance what if you could make one free phone call and learn your best price from nearly a dozen highly rated price competitive companies well that's exactly what happens when you call select quote life for example George is forty he was getting sky high quotes from other companies because he takes meds to control his blood pressure but when I shopped around I found him a ten year five hundred thousand dollar policy for under twenty five dollars a month I'm select quote agent Dan sabino and believe me if select quote isn't shopping for your life insurance you're probably paying too much for your free quote call eight hundred seven zero four twenty three thirty that's eight hundred seven zero four twenty three thirty eight hundred seven zero four twenty three thirty or go to select quote dot com since nineteen eighty five we shop you save get full details on the example policy it's local dot com slash commercials are price can vary depending on your health insurance company the fact is not available in all states at sprint our priorities keeping our customers employees.
"rosso" Discussed on For Your Reference
"What's what's what's available to you at the time so I watched Pogo Rosser a couple of times but it was well over five years ago That I watched it and it was a little Katy Not Little Katie Young Woman Katie struggling to make a living and I watch yourself of a laptop. I think if you listen to a lot of our podcast episodes we talk about watching on a laptop and then re watching again on property and it really transcends sends. Well sometimes it magnifies the imperfections of what you're watching but definitely magnifies the brilliance of Miyazaki. That's how it should be consumed and I wish English dub a couple of times five years ago And we finally got to watch the Japanese sub version just last night and it was delightful was I would whenever we do. Decide to Revisit Poker Officer I do want to save. We can find the French because I think that's what he prefers Interesting I'm I'm definitely very interesting but yeah those are office impressions of the film I I because you said that you would wanNA watch it multiple times ads in the in the next coming weeks I e Polka Rosser as as I like to say a lot of our podcast episodes as like vintage wine and like it's an event you know we can't afford to nor would I want to indulge in it regularly. It's something that you it it has so much richness and you just visit it every so often but you know if you wanNA watch it again. I'm obviously down of definitely. Watch it again with you. There's no dramas about that Albany godless damned listen to Christmas episode. I'm not mentioned that at least for the first time on the Gaza but let let's get to the film on also Poca Rosser is rated. I think Jay or pagey but as you're listening we are not family friendly Laureano so Unlike Miyazaki we only appealed to the filthiest people a very small but very dedicated. A handful of listen in and we fucking love you guys. So let's get into the film obviously let spend some time focusing on poker as a character who. Where do we start so focused on into Marco as it used to be towns into big and I think the I'm bigger to into why? Hi this is I think is one of the most interesting about the movie as well Watching this expertise by the end of it would have given us a reason and an answer a clearly lia defined answers to why he is a big blowing given that and now it's up to us to try and on allies and reanalyze laws the movie and Tron the bits that we think as to why this happened and which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's nothing I quite enjoyed enjoyed it and I think that the wait ended and the glimpses of war is showed a poker Rousso actually turned into Michael at the end of it was up in the air as well so I flew away the him and Jane Got Together. 'CAUSE fears like that's not my a serious about that because he's got Farah Farah. Is it a conspiracy Farah not that far because in the last shots shots of the movie. We have Gina I'm sorry feel narrating right That she's never seen poker also again. There is a close up shot of poker also by. They don't show off his face making it even more like Oh did he change your dino. When Poker turned into mockery he did become sliema and that was the trump? Es Body well the final choice. So you don't know maybe it's a close up shot so you can really tell. The perspective of it. POLKA was thick C. I C C q thick uh and then stop submitting my pitches to films when they're doing it overshot of Genus Garden. Gina wasn't wasn't there so all of the things that I think she also says she visited Gina every summer unless she doesn't know but she would recognize macher short short but the only time she visits Gina was a tonight when she was performing and during the day would wait for would wait for poker also in the garden and he never showed up to tell him that he felt to tell him that he loved him so I thank poker also changed remainder. The pig bought the ended up. Gene-o interesting the welcome and you know what the great thing is about me as ocoee films is you know you can talk talk about different directors. And what they pull on but in regards to me is okay. I would say ninety percent of my experience is immersion and I like we can sit here and discuss not necessarily analyze. But I feel like a lot of what we're saying is our emotional resonance because by my goal there is a lot and that's exactly it and that's a long way to save friends and lovers everything we say is valid because it's fucking immersion. It's interesting it's interesting I think or I I wanNA believe that there is a world that exists. where JANA poker together? A lot of the time when it comes is to Miyazaki's films and there are spells like house moving costs with Sophie as well It is more about them Whether it is within their earn volition or it's been forced upon them The spell is more to do with qualms some might say foundational relational quantum that they need to reconcile within themselves. If Poker Marker is at a point that he's ready to receive love than I it would believe that spell would be broken. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about dispel in a bit more detail so he was a fighter. Jet Is that the right term and he flew planes and it was in the wall whether that's a fighter jet or not come and fight us But he was he was flying As a pilot in the wall. Oh so you know. He had seen the atrocities of war and he had lost people. Let's fair is can spiriting. Naught can spirited away. I saw coming. I will get my fucking right as credit. Who's WHO's to say I'm not Katie Miyazaki? So what's fucking over. His jokes made you should know better than mad. TV Okay touch point. Oh Oh really okay James Corden now you take to you defiled this episode. You really defiled this episode. We we were building a beautiful tapestry and you fucked it up let's go to building the top astray. You're worse than your you're worse than the pirates. Oh we need to talk about them but when I'm going to read them now so let's talk about the spell Let's fair is conspiracy it away. Oh right is How that spill came to be? I've got a fair and as KT Miyazaki. I feel like I'm spot all right. So do you want me to go fast. Of course it's always good to bring the wrong on his out first off of actually. Let's let's let's digress for a second in school When the teacher was asking someone? Let's say a mathematical equation and there were asking someone to answer. Would Jib keep putting your hand up the kid the other kids the answer I say friends lovers. What's the number one rule self-awareness? Hennessy's key. Yes that's that's Ulta Gabaude loud and spank yourself in the whole because I'm not doing it today Yeah I always have outages but why Something about ease crims naughty well between you and I I. But that's not the school context so his his by theory as to why he taty to pig finally okay so so. He says his friends his three friends. Die Right and then he survives. He is disillusioned with a a fascist government. He's dissolution by the fact that he participated in victory. He has a lot of guilt and I I think he doesn't look at himself in the best of light and that's why he pulls away from society it keeps. Everyone has arm's is reach. I agree The one person the loves him in Gina He doesn't really want to express or oh to show or to say anything emotional towards ran. The factory only visits when she's performing says everything because he knows he doesn't want any sort of emotion underlying emotion to kind of cloud his his guilt or underlying. All he feels like he wants to to to punish himself so is hatred for himself and his guilt over himself `Tanzim into a big so the way he views himself in in woods and his emotional state kind of just transpires and he becomes games on a pig Dan dog I didn't even need to be on this 'cause like I agree with everything you said what. I will I guess UNZIP and flop on the table is another element of that spell. Do you think him being a pig. DOC had anything to do with him turning his back on the government. WHOA I guess it's a particular perspective turning his back on the government And becoming having a full on bounty hunter do you think the SPO had anything to do with that or it was more his inability to love which equated from his lack of self worth a thank you. It was more geared towards a thank. You turned into a pig. Before he became a bounty hunter. I think he turned into a big immediately after the war. Aw Oh so. It's not a question of what but Hoen. Yes so I think once he turned into it and he felt the way felt was the government. Those no way who's ever going to either become a pirate because that's just his not that he's not a bad person and the bounty not a bounty hunter was all could be but to be fair. The pirates were so lovable in this film more lovable than Jack's payer. Yeah Yeah Yeah for sure it was. They were harmless. Like that wasn't the intention of this film But that that is very interesting. I also believe the spell was very introspective. Not to say that he's a witch and he put it on himself But I do feel like it is a lot about how he felt about himself himself and just shutting himself off so I definitely agree Pretty much on all fronts in regards to that. Actually that brings me to a scene in the film. I think it was right. After his plane got damaged and then he went to go and source bullets And the kid. That was selling in bullets. Let's was like do you want these ones spikes you want these ones that do this. I'm not a bullet guy so don't come from But he was he was naming all all of the militias. Things at the bullets can do and Pogos like May this is in a war and the oldest Shop Cape I think he referred to himself offers a mole he. He made a comment about the difference between a soldier at war and a bounty hunter Um and the themes that they will talking about was quite interesting as well. Yeah the really well and I think tying the bulletin bulletin to when he was actually inspecting the bullets when fielder sleeping I think just to make sure nothing was there to lethal and connects. Actually why he wanted to get kinda showed his humanity and his self sort of Wath in it and Tom's of how he he is a good person. Interestingly I I needed Zetel I needed time to emotionally invest myself in poker. There were many examples to show his humanity because he was very gruff. Feels like I'm a native talk to you. I don't need to have friends who was very recline eastwood about it but I saw I saw through that and I saw the humanity and poker quite early. And that's interestingly that's the the point where feel saw. PUCCARAS is true form in Markle just a second on the beach which is based on a real beach in Croatia Croatia. V and it's just Actually let's talk about that. Why do you think the spell spell was lifted at that point? 'cause he was so polishing bullets hit. It's not like he was like crocheting something I think it it was just more of a vulnerability in the moment a.
"rosso" Discussed on Software Engineering Daily
"rosso" Discussed on Software Engineering Daily
"React set of tools that it's animates react components her something like that so they actually we actually worked with one of the one of the creator creature jersey and be right so the story is actually it started with a guy called her non teresi that we've worked with who's not related to airbnb he created the body movin even plug in for after effects and he also created a web player for it so basically you could use the body moving plug into export a lot of the animations from after effects like which was mentioning into a jason file but you lose a lot of stuff along the way obviously it converts to vector so not all imagery comes across not all of the affects plug ins are usable you sort of have to know what you can and can't use and then and it gives you this this real time movie clip basically that's that's not not a movie though it's data and that can be played back by a web player that that he created her non created this this this run time for the web airbnb as far or as i know the story goes he could probably tell you better than approached him and said hey we want to take this product is it make it into something called lottie will we'll build the other run times we'll build the will build like an android runtime for it we'll build an i o s run time for it so that basically essentially players for players that that will play back this jason file on on android and all that and i think actually you had someone on your podcast gabriel recently who i think he worked on the android wine line if i remember correctly and so i believe they also have a runtime yeah that's the one suggests ron time with components for react and i'm sure all the other major UI libraries libraries but yeah so basically the idea of the lottery system is you could make something in after facts which is the most commonly used video editing tool animation production tool and you could use this body moving tool to export it to jason file and the jason file vile needs to be interpreted by whatever platform is running the animation so whether retirement android or IOS or web or like like react in the web you need a run time to actually execute or process and and render the that big java script file that you've generated unrated from from aftereffects exactly so that is one model of bringing animations to the web or bring animations to your mobile applications and i've seen the lahti animations they look really nice but having a refresher just now of the of that tool chain that's kind of a kluge tool chain like that's you know it's still using after facts it's still producing these artifact that sounds very difficult to build a a graceful handoff off process with and it also sounds i'm not sure how interactive those animations are unique unique directional yup that that's right that's exactly after-effects affects itself isn't built for interactivity it's built for video so so you're working well first of all you're you're working in three different tools and the you know the the intend pipeline is not owned by one vision it's all these different third party tools that are added on to create the final output so so so things definitely get lost along the way not everything is perfect you know your animation there's some trial and error you have to do an after effect to see what's actually going to export correctly and work as expected but the biggest one of the biggest issues we see with that pipeline is that like i was saying after-effects is made for videos traditionally it's for after-effects affects so you know for for video editing and post production so the tool itself is not interactive first of all everything has to pre rendered when you hit the space bar to watch something it's not actually playing in real time but that also means that while it's playing you can't dynamically manipulate anything you can't for example create video game character that has a run animation a swim swim animation a jump animation and shoot animation and then mix those things together so that while the character is running it can also aim and shoot but maybe in another instance using the same run animation it's jumping or it's looking around in after-effects to do that you basically have to create all those different states and and then create all the different permutations of those mixed together and you can't tell it to mix those things at runtime in affects you just can't do that so already for a lot of video game developers that require a lot of animation it's not an ideal tool but then lottie itself i believe if i remember quickly only supports one animation so you export a single animation and if you want to add any interactivity to that you you as the engineer now need to go and look into that file jason on file and manipulate that always code which you can do but the tool isn't isn't ideal for that as an example also also the animation mixing is obvious one that you know just because you the designer can actually create these multiple animations and preview them in the file themselves and after effects themselves the editor you're not gonna be able to what am i trying to say here let me step back so loud he plays back really well a single animation that's that's like like just a single video is great a single one time animation but then if you're trying to say grab a players hand or something like that in the game and make them sort of aim up down you have to do that all with code whereas we think in our tool we've built it to be built for interactivities so you you can actually create a bone chain in for your characters arm and then put a controller at the end of that arm and the designer in the tool can actually manipulate that and see what what it's going to behave like and then expose that controller to the engineer that just says okay i'm going to grab this at runtime and move it and because of how the designer honor set up that arm to work you know the inverse keenum addicts and the bone system is going to respect all of that and not break anyway that's just one example of of something that affects you you can find add ons and plug ins do bones and stuff like that but it's just not made for time and that stuff isn't going to translate to to lottie well i think from the from the perspective as an even better example that maybe can clarify kind of the difference between is the ability to mix states if you imagine and we actually she have a blog and a couple different posts about this so if you want to see it in detail you can look for it it's called liquid download or we have this example which is a download process that basically has an indeterminate and determinate state at the same time so if you imagine something that's spinning on your screen indeterminately but then it also shows progress by maybe if it's a circle it could fill up as the download proceeds if you had to design that after facts you'd have to make two separate animations and then you couldn't preview mixing them together and with laudi there are tricks that developers clever developers can get around to make dot com work by for example looking at one portion of the time line nine applying that and then maybe applying the second part of the time line at a different time but it only works if you guarantee that those those key frames don't touch the same things while gal with a tool that's made for runtime animation and the ability to blend animations together it should actually based on input from the designer blend those key frames on top op of existing key frames before applying them to the final result which means that you can see a result that is a combination of multiple states of multiple animations and that's something that's very very hard to do with something that's just not built for real time apache.
"rosso" Discussed on Software Engineering Daily
"Being a sponsor we don't luigi rosso also welcome to software engineering daily thanks for having us thanks for having us the subject of today's show is going to be animation and particularly the technologies you has of built around animation and i like to start by just asking a simple question which is why don't i see very much animation in the applications that i use so this is all tackle that i i think it's a combination of things there's a lot of sort of initial resistance to animation animation like oh it's fluff it's just doesn't really add value and i think some of that initial reaction comes from i don't wanna do the extra work or it's hard to do that extra work and i think a lot of companies nowadays with probably apple and setting the bar with the iphone and other windows phone came not a little later and had all these great animations actually proved that they can improve you i and actually create a better you x. with good animation of course google with their air material design has done a lot of work there and i think nowadays there's a few things tools are in great probably what got us into animating you i was flash sh and that was a really good tool for that allowed designers to really drive the vision of the product from a design and animation standpoint and actually actually billed as your concept to will build it around or whatever you're building the product that you're building build it around design animation as you're kind of creating the concepts is and that never really happened again since flash there hasn't been a great tool that allows designers to really work on the assets that are actually going to go into production shen with high quality design and high quality animation and you know flash how to go away for a lot of the reasons that it did there was a lot of valid critiques to it but what has really missed since then in the UI field i think is this ability for designers to really drive the vision of animated product and an animated UI i with the right tools to do that and it's just really hard to do that right now right now you have you have designer will build something in one tool then they'll may be animated in another tool well that's not made for real-time animation something like maybe after-effects that's made more for video animation and then they sort of hand that off engineer and say well here here are my key frames here's like a video describing how it was done i might create some red lines and descriptions and stuff like that but it's still something that needs to be completely recreated by the engineer and that makes it in really hard too because if an engineer suddenly builds it out and now we're trying it you know the designer might say well you know this actually doesn't work how i thought it would in the video when i was when i was sort of prototyping thing it and we got to go back and change that whole process starts again you know it's not there isn't really a tool that's really great for sophisticated motion graphics at the level that we're talking talking about you know there's little prototypes tools that you can do like transition from page page be so that's sort of my belief as to why we don't see a lot of it it's hard it's hard to do and there are in great tools to do it i think it's also been de prioritized for a long time and i think it's been recently that people really want these delightful experiences and there is the need to kind of provide that and it is hard it's hard to do that it's hard to build up doc either manually or build it from an engineering mindset so it really does take a lot of design and development effort you know in in tandem to produce something the thing that is delightful like that so it sounds like the workflows are quite insufficient today partly early because the tooling is insufficient you have it sounds like multiple handoffs like perhaps hand off from an animator to a designer designer and from designer to a developer perhaps the animator and the designer are the same person what is the stack of technologies that people are using you mentioned after a facts and there's also blender give me the description of the stack of technology used used for building animations in how the hand off curse the engineering department sure so all i can talk about it from the design side and we can probably cover the engineering side right but so we actually used to run before this design and development agency and we used to do this work all the time for clients so i headed up the design side by ram cueto and i'm the designer of the two of us and on the design side we'd often do a lot of mockups and designs what you expect you know photoshop illustrator illustrator sketch figure wasn't around when we were running our agency but now sigma has kind of become a pretty big player in that field so we'd we'd probably start there we'd start doing some sketches and designs in that and then animation like you mentioned after effects you know we'd we'd probably export some of that stuff out we'd cut up assets we rarely do design work in aftereffects but sometimes it depends on the different designer that's that's working on it but that's really the bulk of it to create the level of animation like when we we were working with windows phone eight microsoft's one of our clients and we did a lot of metro UI concepts early on and animations for that and the work that we were doing there was was all after effects to create kind of that level of sophisticated animation that the UI required you couldn't really build it in in another tool so there's there's other tools for designing you mentioned blender blenders a lot more three d. but they do have a little bit of two now but it's really more two games like it's game oriented and not a lot of work working there some companies are experienced are experimenting with unity now mostly because of virtual reality so you know the allows you to do stuff in a three d. environment but really from the design inside the stuff that we did from motion prototyping perspective was mostly that now before that before we had died flash was probably our the biggest tool both on the prototyping side and on actually the implementation side and i do think that that was the biggest positive that flash had was that you you could do a lot of your prototyping and implementation and ultimately your prototype could become your final product directly in the same environment you didn't have all this multiple the hand off that had to happen it was really great to be able to work on the assets that were actually your final product and that's something that you know we aspire to do with our old because we think it's a one thing that flashed got right one of the many things but probably one of the things the best things that was lost when flash went away and and i don't know if you want to talk a bit about the tech stack and we actually had asked about how the handoff happens sure yeah so we we did a lot of work with clients one of the big ones we actually ended up working for a long time at intel we worked on tv product with them and we actually have we did a lot of affects videos there for for that to showcase how we he wanted this TV product to look and feel we wanted to have a lot of motion and to feel just really sophisticated a level above your typical TV experience and one of the things we found super challenging was one the handoff had to happen and louise team needed to rebuild it and i think they were doing it in jail at the time or it might have even been and sepals plus an open jail which had different things we did it on HTML five then we went just the whole layout ourselves because we couldn't we couldn't find solutions to certain animation requirements armaments in just pure CSS started exploring during the layout and web jail we eventually went just a pure open jail was he was plus so to help him and his team sort of know how to recreate that stuff we actually took all the videos that we have built an after effects and we created redline videos which basically our videos that it's hard to describe live without seeing them but they're they're basically it takes all the curves and all the enemy animation curves tweeting and key framing and all that and it shows you the animation but it blocks out like the basic timing and it shows you the animation curves that basically dumps all this data on the screen while things are animating so that the developer can look at the on one side the final animation and on the other side the red line animation which has all this data and all this information that is describing what's happening and they can posit at any time and see like okay this this box is at this x and y coordinate at this time and its using this easing and function and it was so much work to get to that like the design team not only had to come up with the whole concept i but then they had to create these extra videos to show how the thing needed to be implemented and going back to what we're saying before then we team would implement it and if for some reason something had to change it was a total restart we go back to creating recreating the animation concepts tweaking what we thought was going to look right and updating the videos and sure you can do a few of these things in the actual code and sit side by side and designer developer just hash it out real quick but but for bigger concepts like that you end up losing thing that ability to do a lot of fascination at the end of this workflow what's the artifact that is coming out of the animation designed tooling in getting handed off to the developer what's the actual like file forms case in in this case it's a movie it's a it's an MP for our dot MO v that after-effects spits out and this was one very specific use case where we really needed something super highly taylor there was designed vision was really nontraditional for this product product and it required also due to the constraints that we had on the hardware some really clever clever engineering diverse allies lists and such that were animating and elements within in those lists were animating so we really wanted to call them not draw them when they weren't on the screen as aggressively as we could and that required a custom layout engine so that's why we went down this route with this project i think that's barely nontraditional but it is also show that really aren't tools to do things like that these days the only environments that kind of have those concepts are really are really video games and that said nowadays there are tools that are coming out that do have a lot greater visibility into their layout engines and give you even access to do your own lay out at a much lower level that are starting to come out and are starting to expose the ability to create create tools that can kind of tailor those experiences and that's something that we we are striving to build but there are also today other solutions and other things that people people use there is the ability to export in actual jason file from after effects and a lot of things get dropped along the way but basic shape we'll get exported animation key frames we'll get exported and then with clever runtime like you can play that back but what ends up kind of what ends up happening is that you're basically playing back a glorified movie clip it's in real time it'll be much shaw much lighter to download a movie and it will scale properly vector graphics but you don't get the ability to control things at runtime like mixing states mixing automations together you don't get that with a tool that doesn't have that concept built and you've got to do that all after the fact in your code and that is something that we're also striving for is having the ability for designers to to be empowered and see those states being mixed in the tool that they're using so so what we think is really lacking is a is a runtime animation animation tool and the supporting pipeline for getting those assets out of it into an engineering friendly framework that can then manipulate anything that comes out of that and you mentioned the lodhi their lodhi if i recall is.
"rosso" Discussed on Software Engineering Daily
"Being a sponsor we don't luigi rosso also welcome to software engineering daily thanks for having us thanks for having us the subject of today's show is going to be animation and particularly the technologies you has of built around animation and i like to start by just asking a simple question which is why don't i see very much animation in the applications that i use so this is all tackle that i i think it's a combination of things there's a lot of sort of initial resistance to animation animation like oh it's fluff it's just doesn't really add value and i think some of that initial reaction comes from i don't wanna do the extra work or it's hard to do that extra work and i think a lot of companies nowadays with probably apple and setting the bar with the iphone and other windows phone came not a little later and had all these great animations actually prove that they can improve you i and actually create a better you x. with good animation of course google with their air material design has done a lot of work there and i think nowadays there's a few things tools are in great probably what got us into animating you i was flash sh and that was a really good tool for that allowed designers to really drive the vision of the product from a design and animation standpoint and actually actually billed as your concept to will build it around or whatever you're building the product that you're building build it around design animation as you're kind of creating the concepts is and that never really happened again since flash there hasn't been a great tool that allows designers to really work on the assets that are actually going to go into production shen with high quality design and high quality animation and you know flash how to go away for a lot of the reasons that it did there was a lot of valid critiques to it but what has really missed since then in the UI field i think is this ability for designers to really drive the vision of animated product and an animated UI i with the right tools to do that and it's just really hard to do that right now right now you have you have designer will build something in one tool then they'll may be animated in another tool well that's not made for real-time animation something like maybe after-effects that's made more for video animation and then they sort of hand that off engineer and say well here here are my key frames here's the video describing how it was done i might create some red lines and descriptions and stuff like that but it's still something completely recreated by the engineer and that makes it in really hard too because if an engineer suddenly builds it out and now we're trying it you know the designer might say well you know this actually doesn't work how i thought it would in the video when i was when i was sort of prototyping thing it and we got to go back and change that whole process starts again you know it's not there isn't really a tool that's really great for sophisticated motion graphics at the level that we're talking talking about prototypes tools that you can do like transition from page page be so that's sort of my belief as to why we don't see a lot of it it's hard it's hard to do and there are in great tools to do it i think it's also been de prioritized for a long time and i think it's been recently that people really want these delightful experiences and there is the need to kind of provide that and it is hard it's hard to do that it's hard to build up doc either manually or build it from an engineering mindset so it really does take a lot of design and development effort you know in in tandem to produce something the thing that is delightful like that so it sounds like the workflows are quite insufficient today partly early because the tooling is insufficient you have it sounds like multiple handoffs like perhaps hand off from an animator to a designer designer and from designer to a developer perhaps the animator and the designer are the same person what is the stack of technologies that people are using you mentioned after a facts and there's also blender give me the description of the stack of technology used used for building animations in how the hand off curse the engineering department sure so all i can talk about it from the design side and we can probably cover the engineering side right but so we actually used to run before this design and development agency and we used to do this work all the time for clients so i headed up the design side by ram cueto and i'm the designer of the two of us and on the design side we'd often do a lot of mockups and designs what you expect you know photoshop illustrator illustrator sketch figure wasn't around when we were running our agency but now sigma has kind of become a pretty big player in that field so we'd we'd probably start there we'd start doing some sketches and designs in that and then animation like you mentioned after effects you know we'd we'd probably export some of that stuff out we'd cut up assets we rarely do design work in aftereffects but sometimes it depends on the different designer that's that's working on it but that's really the bulk of it to create the level of animation like when we we were working with windows phone eight microsoft's one of our clients and we did a lot of metro UI concepts early on and animations for that and the work that we were doing there was was all after effects to create that level of sophisticated animation that the UI required you couldn't really build it in in another tool so there's there's other tools for designing you mentioned blender blenders a lot more three d. but they do have a little bit of two now but it's really more two games like it's game oriented and not a lot of work working there some companies are experienced are experimenting with unity now mostly because of virtual reality so you know the allows you to do stuff in a three d. environment but really from the design inside the stuff that we did from motion prototyping perspective was mostly that now before that before we had died flash was probably our the biggest tool both on the prototyping side and on actually the implementation side and i do think that that was the biggest positive that flash had was that you you could do a lot of your prototyping and implementation and ultimately your prototype could become your final product directly in the same environment you didn't have all this multiple the hand off that had to happen it was really great to be able to work on the assets that were actually your final product and that's something that you know we aspire to do with our old because we think it's a one thing that flashed got right one of the many things but probably one of the things the best things that was lost when flash went away and and i don't know if you want to talk a bit about the tech stack and oh actually you had asked about how the handoff happens sure yeah so we we did a lot of work with clients one of the big ones we actually ended up working for a long time at intel we worked on tv product with them and we actually have we did a lot of affects videos there for for that to showcase how we he wanted this TV product to look and feel we wanted to have a lot of motion and to feel just really sophisticated a level above your typical TV experience and one of the things we found super challenging was one the handoff had to happen and louise team needed to rebuild it and i think they were doing it in jail at the time or it might have even been and sepals plus an open jail which had different things we did it on HTML five then we went just the whole layout ourselves because we couldn't we couldn't find solutions to certain animation requirements armaments in just pure CSS started exploring during the layout and web jail we eventually went just a pure open jail was he was plus so to help him and his team sort of know how to recreate that stuff we actually took all the videos that we have built an after effects and we created redline videos which basically our videos that it's hard to describe live without seeing them but they're they're basically it takes all the curves and all the enemy animation curves tweeting and key framing and all that and it shows you the animation but it blocks out like the basic timing and it shows you the animation curves that basically dumps all this data on the screen while things are animating so that the developer can look at the on one side the final animation and on the other side the red line animation which has all this data and all this information that is describing what's happening and they can posit at any time and see like okay this this box is at this x and y coordinate at this time and its using this easing and function and it was so much work to get to that like the design team not only had to come up with the whole concept i but then they had to create these extra videos to show how the thing needed to be implemented and going back to what we're saying before then we team would implement it and if for some reason something had to change it was a total restart we go back to creating recreating the animation concepts tweaking what we thought was going to look right and updating the videos and sure you can do a few of these things in the actual code and sit side by side and designer developer just hash it out real quick but but for bigger concepts like that you end up losing thing that ability to do a lot of fascination at the end of this workflow what's the artifact that is coming out of the animation designed tooling in getting handed off to the developer what's the actual like file forms case in in this case it's a movie it's a it's an MP for our dot MO v that after-effects spits out and this was one very specific use case where we really needed something super highly taylor there was designed vision was really nontraditional for this product addict and it required also due to the constraints that we had on the hardware some really clever clever engineering diverse allies lists and such that were animating and elements within in those lists were animating so we really wanted to call them not draw them when they weren't on the screen as aggressively as we could and that required a custom layout engine so that's why we went down this route with this project i think that's barely nontraditional but it is also it does go to show that the really aren't tools to do things like that these days the only environments that kind of have those concepts are really are really video games and that said nowadays there are tools that are coming out that do have a lot greater visibility into their layout engines and give you even access to do your own lay out at a much lower level that are starting to come out and are starting to expose the ability to create create tools that can kind of tailor those experiences and that's something that we we are striving to build but there are also today other solutions and other things that people people use there is the ability to export in actual jason file from after effects and a lot of things get dropped along the way but basic shape we'll get exported animation key frames we'll get exported and then with clever runtime like you can play that back but what ends up kind of what ends up happening is that you're basically playing back a glorified movie clip it's in real time it'll be much shaw much lighter to download a movie and it will scale properly vector graphics but you don't get the ability to control things at runtime like mixing states mixing automations together you don't get that with a tool that doesn't have that concept built and you've got to do that all after the fact in your code and that is something that we're also striving for is having the ability for designers to to be empowered and see those states being mixed in the tool that they're using so so what we think is really lacking is a is a runtime animation animation tool and the supporting pipeline for getting those assets out of it into an engineering friendly framework that can then manipulate anything that comes out of that and you mentioned the lodhi their lodhi if i recall is.
Steve Haskin Discuss What Is True Horseracing
"Listen I don't WanNa put a damper on things or anything but you know to me. This was not was not true. Horse racing at least as I know it And I I will say that the grass races were were all good. I have no problem with that but after after that a lot of things that just get ugly for me you know. I don't WanNa see horses and jockeys coming back on on a track labelled fast looking like they just been rolling in the sandbox I realized being zealous in their attempt to make detract safe which is understandable expandable. But in my opinion they did. They did at the expense of the racing I mean who's who says you have to make a track excessively really deep and tiring to make it safe. I mean they're they're faster race tracks. I go back look at the aqueduct over the years and they're all in in highly even even the old old Santa Anita track was always safe. Saratoga I mean these are basically safe racetracks. You know so. So what's going on now. I can understand but sometimes you can overdo something and you know. And as much as as I liked Vino Rosso in the classic and you know one all kinds of bets on them To tell you the truth I can never ever watch that race again for abuse reasons to search too much 'cause actually liked Mongolian groom ally and and actually thought at one point in the race that he looked like he was gonna Finish in the money but you know all the repercussions of that. which most I think most of it is just nonsensical? In fact I just read somewhere that you know the vet came that came out. The trainer came out and said it was perfectly sound. You know and understand these things happen. There's no there's absolutely no blame here at all. Just the fact that it happened. That hurts just like it's hurt from all the other incidents in fatal fatal incidents in the past. And you know I go back I was there for roughing it. I was there for go for one. That was there for prairie by you. I mean there for a lot of witnesses and every time you go through a little bit out of you and you know I I I just sort of get attached the Mongolian. Groom not only from a betting standpoint but I just like the connections and and the and the the horrible irony of it is the fact that you know right after the race. He stated emphatically that. They're not going that they don't want to put up two hundred thousand dollars and and then you figured some offers would come in to to get a piece of it and put up. Put up the the supplementary fee and they said you know now talking to date decided to change their mind put up the money and and and then this happened so I know how absolutely devastated everybody. Everybody was there So but you know that's not even what I'm talking about when I'm talking about About the debris come you know I. I just don't want to see the best distance. Sources in the country stagger home the last half a mile and fifty two seconds. That's not resource time time I you can make the track slower and slower and slower but it was weird because the the formula was the same old data. We're going faster early legitimate. The sprint races were run fast but I mean come home the last year from fifty two. I mean that's ridiculous and you know it wasn't that the horses were bad. It was at the race crack. You know that. They poured truckloads of sand on the day before the Breeders Cup. You know and speaking of the classic Nick and that Racetrack. I certainly don't want to see the V to bed. Closes in the country. Never even pick up their feet and get beat fifteen lengths and seventeen links like they're running through quicksand. And I had agreed with Doug mcgann. He's original plan to skip the Breeders Cup and was totally against it when they change their mind. I knew the odds were stacked against them. Being three year olds shipping West I quoted that statistic that they were over twenty two in the past. I and especially with the track favoring speed at that time and I had no idea that it would get even worse for him when he got there and I don't think I don't think shook did either either. I think he was Kinda surprised how how track was playing how deep it was and how come from behind horses were were just spinning their wheels. We also hallway so you don't WanNa see that you know you just don't want to see any kind of track bias when you've got the championships at stake. I mean it was a lot at stake. Code of honor but you know so. Now he's got to End His Campaign very ingloriously. But that's just the beginning You know you look at Look at the beach I mean I I I don't WanNa see arguably the most exciting and talked about horse in the the entire Breeders Cup. Who's been on just off the pace going six furlongs to a mile in an ace in every one of his starts eight and a half lengths back at the half mile? Call all of the dirt mile and still five lengths back at the poll. You know. He's he's still runs one of the best races of his life despite the track and he can't even get close to you know I'm not taking anything away from spun to run but he can't even get close to that horse. You know who was beaten nine links in the Haskell who I I was at parks when he beat gray magician by heading the smarty Jones he ran well in the Pennsylvania Derby but he's still fit and then suddenly turned into a superstar overnight. Overnight gets a one ten buyer and some small stakes at parks despite never having run a triple digit Byron his life so I mean Karama beach I mean even to get close to that horse and to come from that far out of it and where the heck was cold front you know in twelve career starts. He's I've been on the lead or within a link to the lead in every in every start in the met mile. He's on the leading forty four and one for the half but in this race he's running V v six and a half lengths off the lead. I mean I don't get that. Where was he so you want to run? As soon as he went out there you know and opened up to three lengths. She said nobody's nobody's going to catch the source on this racetrack. And like I said I thought I thought the Omaha Beach Randy terrific race to get second and even staying with the dirt mile. Yeah I don't WanNa see the second and third choices you look improbable and Mr Money. who were both being very highly touted touted By their trainers and many of the experts. And who would training brilliant leaguge swimming out there never picking their feet up then got beat nine of ten ten and three quarter lengths. You know now you get to midnight. Be Sue I don't WanNa see the best filling in the country unable to make up an inch aground. In the last days the mile with a final creates run in under forty seconds. You know what in the world we should be doing running ace at the top of the stretch You you know I mean it was a was it. A bad ride was just bad. Racing Locke was was big track. I mean take your pick but affiliates not supposed to be that far back and and if you watch the race you could see blue price who you know. Give her credit you know. She wants to come from off the pace but he had a made her she had to make a move move back stretch and it had lead ready at the eighth pole you know and then you know finally you look at Friday. I don't WanNA see your race with into the strongest W prospect. Seen in years. Completely fall apart. You have a forty five to one shot at twenty eight to one shot and thirty nine to one shot come from first third and fourth to finish one two three and the three to two shot running second stops to a walk getting beat over twelve lengths. You you know and then you know meanwhile before five shot and erase stumbles at the start and finish dead last so to me. That race was a total bust. In fact to tell you the truth by the way if somebody had told me a week before the Breeders Cup that we were GonNa see the Derby favourite less weekend and it would not be a it would not be any of the three favorites more. Would it be scabbard. Nor anybody else in the juvenile but it would be the winner of the national stakes the next day by far and away the most impressive two year old. Maybe most impressive overseeing the team your weekend and then you go to the other dirt race. On on Friday juvenile fillies you know we have to brilliant phillies coming off. A dominating wins literally staggering home rubber-legged in in an agonizing slow twenty seven three and seven and two for the last sixteenth of a mile. I didn't raise sources. Could run that slow so to to me. You know this is just one. I'M GONNA forget very quickly but this would have forgotten about it by now. If I didn't have to talk about out of here I listen. I'm sure I'm sure a lot of other people feel are being too harsh. But what can I do. It's just the way I feel. You know maybe it's just I've got too many Committee races behind me.
Another Horse’s Death Overshadows Vino Rosso’s Win at Breeders’ Cup Classic
"Another horse death at the Santa Anita racetrack in California happen during the breeders Cup thirty seven horses of died on that track since
John White Suggests You Stay in Your Lane
"John White joining US good morning morning. Sleep for me when I was a kid was long acres. That was the place to be so That's that's an interesting story there. I wanted to weigh in on this gold up at Belmont and I I was texting with a friend within seconds after the race 'cause he texted me itself. What do you think and before they even put up the a your objection or inquiry and I said well I said I thought that Vino Rosso ran a good race and he seems to be a curling improving with age like a fine wine that I added in my text to him. I said but I said there could be a D. Q. Here and I said that without obviously having seen the head on what I then also texted him 'cause he. He texted back and said really and I said yes might be the Q. I said in New York they pretty much. Let them play more than anywhere these days but this could be the queue so I was on the same page ages you in terms of if you if you go by the recent past history there you're really not expecting a D Q so they might see the head on several times. I was watching the Fox broadcast which I've said many times that is such an outstanding broadcast and they showed and then after a while they were showing with the lanes and I mean look Vino came out not once not twice ice three times he there. was there a bump. No I wouldn't even never say there was a bump but there's like contact and as you pointed out Steve I'm being hurting. I loved your comparison in terms of being on the road in your car when the car in the lane next next to you starts coming into your lane. What do you do? I mean 'cause I used that same analogy a lot of times as has a steward myself in something else when I've been stewart by self that I've told jockeys looked the more you stay straight in race Jason. I and I told them in fact I mean I told Rubin Twenties this at Los Alamos when I was in the stand for the last week of that thoroughbred herb red meat in the summer. I said Ruben. You're a fine writer. Horses run for you. You've got a great future but keep in in mind. When you're out there. The more you can possibly stay straight the last you'RE GONNA be in here seeing the stewards and the more success you really GonNa have have because it doesn't help your business if you're constantly in the steward's office in the morning and sometimes you're going to be you know skate through with a Q. Just because in the opinion of the sewer that didn't affect the order finish or didn't deny a horse the opportunity we get for a better finish but you'll be just lucky on in that regard but the more you can stay straight the less headaches. You're GONNA have the less headaches sir. I've told many many writers this for many many years so this is the thing about being Rosso the minute. He is not staying in his lane. He's putting himself in some jeopardy of possibly being be cute and so to me my vote would have been for a the Q. and I that was my decision before the stewards rendered their decision and I have to admit I was a little surprised when they voted for the D. acute just because of the recent history of how they've been judging this type of situation New York now Steve. It seems to me that there has been a change in the personnel recently in this year in Stewart's Dan. you know we have that that. WHO has gone into the stand and I barley obey a isn't he knew I mean he's. He's been there forever now. He's been there for for even one. One person change can change the dynamics to to how stewards it's rule and this is why to me you know people constantly or talking. All we want consistency. We want consistency and then I've heard some people in racing. Even some commissioners or board members say you know what if you keep the same stewards in the stand all the time they get stale. We should mix them up. Well mixing up. Stewart's to me is not conducive to consistency so one thing but you hope for is that you keep kind of a panel of seward's on a consistent. It's the basis and hope that those words will be consistent now the way they ruled this race. Steve the whole would be as you've are ticketed aided that they now continue to judge Rayson similar to this one when they get a similar situation in other words. If we get another one of these he's hurting deals. One would hope that the number would come down again but again. It's got to be a close. The merging here was you know only Canosa and that's a big element in this decision. often been two lanes or something. I doubt whether taking the Russell now but one that's a nose else and that was enough of an incident throughout really the entire stretch when you think about it I mean from where they started at the top of the stretch stretched the finish so I agree with the Bq and I I'm with you sleep and with Andy I think it is in the best interest of racing racing to judge races in terms of of when you get these horses directing like that and to to take those numbers down more often than not yeah if they're GONNA do it. They're going to do it consistently and and also beyond the consistency of of the decisions when they when it gets it to their ants. I don't understand understand why they've gotten away and Richmond. Yori has discussed this too because big for a while had been had been drafted to work with the young riders but I do not know why the film patrol concept y. Y that has has been kind of. I don't know if it's been abandoned per se but the you know the opportunity to sit with riders and say to them. You guys have got to stop this us and we're going to start calling it on a regular basis so you might as well hold your lane now and because you can do it we understand the heat of the battle and going a little bit too much with one hand or another. You know it can drive a horse in the direction. I mean frankly I to me. It seemed as if Iraq in the left hand. If you just got back to writing he might have been fine. He he went he after the first contact he we're back left handed at least one more time maybe twice and I think that that was probably what flag the stewards to say. This was more than just a casual bump. He carried him to two and a half pads and I. I'm a little surprised that the people who are continuing to say it it would never do that. Via Rosso never should have come down that that's that's a little hyper hyperbole basically as to to to what transpired there but if they're going to do it regularly. I think it'd be great for everybody
"rosso" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"At Olympic villages the trailers they roam the far turn recorders one eleven point six three it is the you know Rosso and Tacitus and nothing separates these two as they make their way around the far turn and cold of honor is only like that I have behind them junior over auto asking more for preservation is down he's for this code of honor now swings up on the outside and feel real shows in front. code of honor makes is mold on the outside Tacitus fights on between those two preservationist as far as code of honor and vino Rosso come stride for stride. total sixteen. also. the store will probably. so. that it was Tacitus preservationist. around the four turn comical has been there every step of the way the leader three quarters of the way. does not allow us to get after her with a head. reporter Paul on even. KP Draymond. on the outside is coming whether we rally to board a buyer's remorse around the top of the stretch on the outside of the call two more. very tough customer on the inside of. the chandelier over. KP Draymond third. while store for John below who is now the all time leader and graded stakes win. the track was Sam spear on KNBR the.
"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"She doesn't have the balls to make bad movies movies unlikes we talked about this at our airing Gilliam podcasts at the rear of like all the people who are mad at the Netflix are the same people who in fucking like two thousand and one hated the the original English dub because they were like oh it took so many liberties with the original Japanese script now they like a curse fucking soccer and they burrow sin occurs. They you wanna be able to say that. The last thing was better than this. It's always that's that's the art you had to be there. It's always the logic of like you had to be there for the real work we'd it was so much better than yeah. We're Dunga's breaking my back as a star wars fan five years. I have been breaking my back yeah. We're doing what you the voice broken backs. Thank you for being here. Just go Thanks for listening please around rave reviews subscribe Think Sanford good offer social media thanks to to lay Montgomery furth theme song Pat Reynolds and Joe Bone for our work go to that conference from real nerdy Shit Goto t public for some real nerdy shirts. I think we're working on some new shirts that will be hit the Internet around Christmas time Friday. Oh sure yeah yeah this year. They'RE GONNA have to call David. This area have to call a blank for storm in the malls looking for their CECCHI merch tickle me cecchi please. Can we be ready for CECCHI. Okay you can use it as a pillow dollar bill. y'All you put them in your pillow case Belleville right next week princess-mononoke k. and this pigeon dot com check listen moral commentaries yep. They're good. What are we up to now good question what would be approach from home home? It's going to be by panther next. Oh great comments Jamal boy yeah I mean we really actually he did a good job on that. Although once in a while we're just call your shot. I think I I remember when I was in. I was like Oh that was good I don't you don't you start it. You don't like Michael Be Jerome Jamal Jordan in that movie in particular. Oh I forgot about this movie. I think he's good I think he's good in fruitvale which which is not a good movie I think he's bad and Black Panther which is also a what's better than fruitvale but I listen to it for Jamila. Ah It's also one of those things like sometimes we're just quiet because we're like I said could scene yeah. Oh yeah this is cool. It's also using the commentaries monetary in their three in a row like that by the third one. We're like crazy right right and this is like Oh. I'm just GONNA give into this move. I don't have the energy yeah it. Actually I holds up great when you do that because you've seen other yes sensibly fun and Dr Morrow Movies Mint someone you're like Oh. This is a special right right right right. Yeah okay anyway so that's always PORCO Rosso Fox absence over get out of here. He is us the whole okay I think the whole point of Porco Rosso is that he fucks and the movie is like him largely remembering what it is like to be one who fucks Archer fucked and he will fuck again yeah. I feel like that's the tension in the movie makes love because I don't think he we'll let anyone in to that guy who sit there and eat that plate of pasta like he does and sips that wind like you that Guy Fuck. That's good fucked. Okay you're right. You're pleasures of the flesh of a new thing would be to be like I saw the new Clinton. That movie makes love. Oh Boy God the souvenir makes love severe does make a Donald Curtis is not then we're done. You wonder what a neighbor sure. 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"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"Other film with essentially twenty five and a half twenty five point four where can Japanese. It's an American film. It's the most recent film to crack the list. The only American film from this decade crack the list. What's interesting here is there's a lot more staying power than in the American top ten the franchises 'cause this list is like two two thousand one ninety seven two thousand fourteen twenty sixteen o one zero four ninety seven? Oh three Oh two oh nine. It's twenty fourteen release twenty five point four eight billion yen. It's the third highest grossing film in the history of Japan any other clues. It is the only American animated film to make the list Ooh American animated Spirit Spirit Away Number One and number two this third highest grossing fell in the history of Japan is an American animated film the only American animated film to seem to permeate the culture some even looking down here the next highest grossing American Animated Film Is Number Twenty three is finding Nemo and then you have to go down to twenty eight is toy story three while he's before then. Is it a pixar movie. It is not yeah wow of wow I mean you wanNA throw some other guests for the other spots. We've got an Avatar yeah. I'll give you a hint there. Three Premia Sakis invited spirited away how is Hal in their act is number six with nineteen point six billion yen and that's movie about moving castle as long and then what role nope no. That's how the earlier ones are less video that so I guess the other one is one okay correct. Yes nineteen point three Housman castle on not very close to each other six seven on the list. So how many left we you got this American animated movie. I'm just realizing not an okay would have been the number two film at the time with Titanic. Yes okay right and then these other things that come of it have been released Speier way number one number two your name number four house move a castle six Mono Kevin Bayside shakedown to number eight Avatar ten. You're missing the American animated film which is twenty five billion yen and you're missing the five and the nine slots I will we'll say are both from the same franchise to American films from the same franchise. No clues here okay. You want more clues. I mean three. I feel like I've given you so many clues. It's a twenty fourteen animated film that is not from Pixar. It's huge. It was huge everywhere. It's not like it over performed here. No I'm trying. I'm some blind spot. I'm like it's a massive blind. Spot is one of the had the greatest cultural impacted rose frozen is the third highest grossing film The history of Japan. I was getting lost in like DreamWorks Forgot About Regular Vicky of animated made it night. CGI right artificial intelligence yeah it's the only computer generated movie to films from the same franchise. What is interesting to me is that they are the first two films of that franchise? Is it vendors and ultra ironman no no I it's not it's not super truly the first two films of the franchise okay. It's not like of Andrew is like a subterranean yeah because especially overseas this most franchise built the overseas market built and this is two movies. The franchise peaked. I mean it's literally it's this is fascinating because number five all time. Japan is the first film in the series number nine all time Japan is the second film in the series Letterman number thirteen is the third film in the series which which underperformed everywhere else Oh and then number twenty three is the fourth film like each of them. Okay okay whereas the states they pretty much grew there to films in a long franchise that has since ended x-men definitively defended and they have been trying to do other shit around it so like they're like. Can we do other stuff and other mediums. Can we make movies that are sort of connected but aren't really the same the thing they're trying to keep the sanctity of the movies but I feel like everyone feels like it's a matter of time until they bring the original actors back and do a new phone. Oh that feels like the thing everyone's like waiting and they're like the copy a little bit older. What is the bring them back and do it? What is they don't don't do it? You the first two films I mean I'll give you the biggest clue there from two thousand one and two thousand two they come out in successive years and they're huge one makes twenty billion one makes seventeen billion Harry Potter never would have gone there las personas the fifth highest grossing film The History Japan Chamber Secret Chamber of secrets like the one that everyone's like Oh yeah I guess so now. Let me throw out some other crazy stats okay last Samurai the twelfth highest grossing film the history of Japan Armageddon tied for thirteen with E. T. in Harry Potter deserves it deserves sixteenth highest grossing film in the history of Japan and foreign away the most recent film to appear Scott's a good year. I knew that one rhapsody boy and then you get into like Jurassic Park Phantom Menace Wind rises twenty one is Alice in wonderland has a very big big presence in the took Disney theme park by all accounts no coming. Everyone else I feel like is just sort of like okay we're done and the thirty first highest grossing film history of Japan of course. It's the original Bayside shakedown the movie me me. I love a bayside shakedown anytime in I'm in base. I'm more of a basic shakedown to guy well. You know I agree. I ah see that's Tarantino movie. That kids punk asked me I like a good old fashioned Bayside shakedown okay okay okay America's cheering all of our listeners. They love it doing the way I don't get why this is my Sinatra and I don't think he sounds like this yeah but this is what I'm doing. It sounds like your impression of my dress with Gordon. I know that's kind of what it is. I was thinking I know the precise weight of this looted die. I'm going to sell these governments secrets. I'm Edward Snowden and I made a weird commitment to replicating his voice cares. There's a weird no one cared about me did of course have French. I walked on. I bet it was my first balancing act. We said how he needs to complete complete trilogy of tourists who peaked in the eighties and nineties making unnecessary remake of best documentary winners guy so I called that we had not so you have to walk doc and then you have snow notices and four right and since I made that call another one has joined the fray in the annals the best documentary which is clearly what he will do free solo he will do a free solo remake. I'm Alex Ronald Yes. I got to climb this here El Capitan he'll do it free solo remake like who lost ninety director Curtis Hanson is fairness. Most of the people the ragged into the we've talked about a lot of dead people that we've nonetheless at a reanimated for the purpose of this. Do you have any final Porco Rosso or Miyazaki thought just watch the movies great price you like I am. He doesn't put Shit on knowing because it's just like people should watch the flying pig movie. I agree creativeness for that much time on the podcast. It's it's not fun again. It's like you reap. Among fourteen pages point is the it's the visual spectacle it's animation. It's the loving yeah exactly. It's character driven film. I love it. He's one of my best friends. It's the best movie ever based on in-flight but even even as a character the different film. It's not even that much of a script driven get really there. I don't know man hater. Yes I was just watching and I was like I'm in on the vibe of this movie. He doesn't say Shit Shit but you get such a vibe from Gina 'cause she. Just sort of walks through the movie I can set my watch to this movie. I understand the way it's taking you know. It's like I get it baby. I love that pig. He's just the pig is working on this working on his plane. I love that pigs. Maybe he's working on his plane. Maybe we will get PORCO to one day Banyu like this one right. You're happy you're Goto FEO goes. Fash go to red pill taper next week with man. Okay Okay Great Eight movie I I I agree that next week. We have known and Okay I can't. I can't argue with the truth. David has given up. He's staring off into the mid. Someone sent me. A text took me a second puzzle. I figured it out. Can you read it or is it a private and I'll read it off my okay. yeah no no love PORCO. You might not be my favorite Miyazaki but I think it's good that we have the two sides between us. Sure okay well Geez. I think it's a compliment green. I went sure I just think if you watch poker also and then go watch the documentary about gb the Kingdom of dreams madness sadness. It's like putting into this guy this guy chain-smoking Weirdo who makes these movies Weird Apron Sake. He's the pig pig. Have you watched the Rahman video. No I'll find him. I've been saving a lot of these things Justin. Thank you for being thank you this. This is fun. You don't watch a lot of movies but we finally got a lot of weight. Check you'd have like being into movies your subject act of blankets which is people who like the podcast and don't like it's great you which is a subset. There are some there are there was yeah yeah I do. You like the Star Wars prequels which is how I got into. Check really what's your I like. I like I like I like thinking about them more than I like. Certainly I don't like attack of the clones so I should retract statement really dislike that movie but I I like your. You've got into the Star Wars. Yeah say something crazy I easy. You're having watched any of them since we did that me neither. Why would you right? We watched them to immerse. The more I think about stuff. I'm like SOCLEAN's my favorite or it's bad. It's so bad so I can I I would end with this. I will say I remember release. Day of attack of the clones is my mom took me to see that movie and if you think that like I I cannot reconcile how excited I was to go see a star wars movie. That's all fan of medicine theater. I liked it. I was a kid but attack of the clones I literally it's during the Django fat chase scene. I fell asleep. Wow My mom had to wake me up. I fell asleep during the very early in the all in couldn't do it. The only time I've ever fell asleep in the movie theater. Peter is watching attack of the clones when they're in the asteroid belt. I just goes off. I'll say I mean you know we've we've mentioned this before but I feel like were harder on those movies because of the bit we were doing partly that's true because they certainly don't live too standing outside of the star waiver site. They're only only interesting in dialogue with the original films and how much he deviates from them how how reticent he is to like do what people want is. What's interesting about them? I don't think any of us either of US would argue that they're good but I feel like if we watched them with context. We both have more complimentary things. Thank you say that but it's not true. This is just the trick. We talk about it so much where we're like. You're like Phantom. Menace might be good and you turn it on. You're like no. I don't like it and then ends in and you're like but maybe there's something when it's on. You're like oh I see. I know this is very boring right right right but then the second engineer but you know what about what no no let's think about it fessing now how much like the prequel defenders are becoming like a thing the exact horror lying thick thicke. Finally we kicked Lucas like the people who are like texting death threats to Lucas are now like fucking Catholic the balls to make a prequel..
"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"I don't know if you could fit the eyebrows on a Lego head. No you need to make the head bigger. There's only one or like the tough team out. There aren't any good yeah. I'm stressed out David this time you're not dealing with this problem and you solve the sheets but you're not gonna be able to solve this one. Okay okay third. Time isn't the charm. I'm GONNA fool you. You'RE GONNA have no solution for this. I'm concerned about my legacy. Dave okay sure what you leave behind. What you leave your memories right well? No not less is the memories and more what I physically leave behind. We're going to leave behind a bunch of VHS tapes and DVD's stacks of you know one hour photo surrounds sermons all these things that my family's going to have to inherit and I had this with this. I had a box. Lami legacy box filled with old videos. You Know Oh my great grandma talking on camera photos. You found no solution and your ass dresses. I am great back to the show. What I did was I spoke to? We're friends at legacybox. They send me a big old box. It's big old barred attention. They send you a box. The Sea it's basically empty box arrived the autonomous legacy Bob. What do you put in the box legacy? You put in anything you want. You put in film reels. Let's like this do you want to do. You want to tell us what that is. It's my most cherished memories thirty five millimeter trailer for Elizabethtown. We're not joking you you put in like. VHS tapes you can put in old family photos. You could put in Shady Polaroid's. You've taken over the year I suppose so it. It was more of a family thing from England is tapping the celluloid right now. I want people to hear this is what a thirty five millimeter prints of the elizabethtown trailer sounds like an up until now if fit to carry this thing in my pocket every hour of every day no other way to watch my back went out and every time I wanted to someone the Elizabeth trailer which is every every hour of the Elizabeth trailer. I also do that but I'll talk about that in a different address every time I want to show some of the elizabethtown trailer to pull out a project there and find the white wall and it's driving me crazy. You're told me I could put this in a legacy Bob. Here's what they'll do. They could upload him for the first time ever. I can watch the ELIZABETHTOWN elizabethtown trailer online. Here's they'll do they can put it into a thumb drive on into a dvd into a digital download carry this and they have easy to phone -struction in safety barcodes for every item you get all your old stuff back with perfectly preserved digital copy and get personal up. They'll let you know every step stabbed got personalized updates. There's you know twelve emails. That will just tell you what's going on. Four hundred and fifty thousand families have trusted legacy box with all their stuff. I just want to double double check. We're talking trailer version number two it's two minutes and fifty five seconds with SR optical backup and Claude tracks they could handle that to all and all the work is done by hand right here in the US at all right so listen listen. That's the sound of the trailer being thrown into the garbage..
"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"All he can do is really slice. Fruits and vegetables isn't Anthony Yeah. I don't know if you put like Avocados in a blender because you take a little bit of control of their daily stance it's like I don't want to give them things that they can't replicate. I WanNa get and stuff like you can actually do you make put Sola liquid he was he gonNA teach. Pathology Cram that it's like really smart is like no what he's actually doing. He's just being a really good friend. Hey nine times. He's just like a Web. Headline just walks into an episode of television television when he's getting Sean or someplace else he's sort of like verizon and he's like the he does have great moments. I think that there are some episodes. Were there are great. Crumbs Evian is a he's a national treasure and that's what we should do. A movie about is finding. He's Gone Messing with peg heck yeah. I don't know what any of you guys talking about. But I remember Ted Allan Allan he rule for Teddy Bear. I mean just like a teddy bear. No Ted America's favorite movie star. Oh No I don't you don't mean Fox he literally we're not talking about the parts began Dan. I said that I was like I guess I forgot. It's gone. It's gone out of the head. Haunts me burned in my memory. Every time I close my eyes is I see Ted fucking a woman with Parsa Yeah but the thing about the all that is like Seth Macfarlane even is sort of like yeah. I don't know I kind of just WanNa make my space. My sincere zero star trek show now yeah you know he's calm. I get everyone was into that for a while but I feel like now just doing the Orrville on Hulu. It's just crazy see how big the first head was. We talked about this on the buck on this seth Macfarlane Voices Curtis that could be a good alternate casting if they do the pork roses well because McFarland does have that like Sinatra reborn bad vibe God. That's of all of Seth Macfarlane's vibes many Richard bed. That's that's one of the worst the Martha uncanny or I don't know something about it. That feels like no one asked for this Do you know what his album standards. Maybe he's made several now forget. It's on the tip of my tongue to music is better than words. Hey I believe is the title I think that's what it's called. God you know how Richie is you're correct. Yeah you can take a guess eight hundred twenty one million two hundred million. Maybe seems low gave them like Oprah. Income like Oprah income there was so much higher than two hundred yeah yeah anyway well whatever he also made an album called holiday for swing third studio album. No one ever tells you you smoking a cigarette fourth album in full swing eight hundred twenty one's a little absurd pretty high. That's like Spielberg number. He's he's been going hard. Maybe Fox victim on American dad or something I don't know I know we've done talking about worker rose. We got more of a poker. Okay another thing I like. I like the Curtis. Is this like Hollywood leading man type especially of that era like literally security about the fact he's not agrily a tough guy right right this actor action star kind of thing that goes back to to like you know John Wayne not serving in the war or you know he's. He can't back up his right right right right that like he wants to be. Be a movie star and be the press he wants to have these performance of rules but he hates the Gina likes a fucking pig more than him because he actually gets his hand hand stirred. She's chill about it. Though yeah the whole show for airfield yeah yeah I like the pig PORCO show because he's drinking wine and smoking all all the time but he has over committed just give no Fox because entire movie and we'll talk about her beautiful dream Gone Curse makes the proposal to her and she's like look. I be honest. I made a promise to myself. There's one man I love and he only visits me at night and my restaurant but if he ever comes here and on his plane when I'm in my garden I'll know and I can't I can't leave behind the chance of that happening pretty devastating stating for Curtis honest where she's like not only am I rejecting you but I've pinned my hopes on pig visiting me when I'm in my garden and then similarly devastating ever sitting he flies by like right when she's saying Oh my God here. Here's here's here's here's happening and he's gone and I love. The movie ends on the I'm not I'm not gonNa tell you if you ever showed up. Is there a little secret I became friends with Gina for the rest of my life Porco and I we kind of lost touch not that felt that felt very true. Grit to me when she likes shows up and they're like yeah he just died on the end of trigger just her walking through the sanitary and she's like well. I'm comes first all credits masterpiece by the way yeah underrated people not putting into their tops of the twenty lists crazy great movie. Have you seen grip yes. Yes I know just in that you rarely watch movies thirteen movies really you're not a big movie wants Guy Fall you love sky fall you more of a td guy no yeah like animated. I play video games issue like Milton. I have tank shared on the pocket book Mama Over second-generation too big cow okay okay. It's a shady video-game Ashida Video Shandy Guy Getting into no shady guy a Shittier shady shady because we should he do do. I'll tell you what I'll tell you fucking the teams that play Rainbow Succeed or shady but that's you're talking more about the player hate the players the the game by a she wants a game guy who's like Kinda scummy and his kind of way with the modern day Max Payne. I'm in a game where you have to virtually take pills. You know that's yeah I don't. I don't know what would you name is like the last thing I can think of like grand theft auto got a lego pirates of the Caribbean. Oh shit okay scoundrels in that one love scown dirtiest of the Lago Games scalawags Allie wags and scofflaws what do like Lego Body Heat. They start just making like full on sex norm nothing LEGO. What's it called blasted auction? I would love I would love if they did like you know. Of course we did like a star wars. We went through all those homes we did Indiana Jones went through all those films we thought it was time we.
"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"I'm picked picked up Oh yeah but but I love that it's it's like Porco genuinely as we get to learn. The movie has not ever considered that anyone would like him. That's fair right yeah. He's kind of like. I'm a lost soul. I I was like okay. I get what kind of movie this is. This is the like honey. You don't WanNa know me. You don't WanNa be with me. I'm protecting you know instead. It's like I'm a fucking pig wait. She likes media even at the end of the movie when the guys like. What are you what we're fighting? She wants you not me is one mostly mad about. He's like you're lying so stunned that the guy gets an opportunity a clear-cut camp. I think we've talked up the melancholic elements of the movie but I think it's important that the character porco himself actually kind of care. He's like sitting around drinking drinking wine on the beach is kind of got that vibe of like look. I brushed the face of death and I'm still here so it's all extra time. I think he's a little night also we're also we're in Italy so the process I think he's a little listrik and a little hedonistic in terms of like I'm doing me. What's the worst thing you can do to me already a fucking pay? That's the thing is if I'm a pig on Mike. I'm going to eat twenty four seven. It's like I'm pick. I really worry about how I look anymore. I look like a pig. He's great body shape and I love the way he outfits himself. He's his mustache is great to compare curtis his mustache which sucks versus mustaches the best signifier that he's like a weak Chin Dildo pocos mustache even when you see human and you're like oh it was just the same salary as opposed to look at criticism mustache in late at any point exactly no thank you curtis sucks monster. I'm trying to think of the plot here Hollywood movie star and also be President he actually you know let me read you music. You got my book right. Okay Oh David taking out a leather bound volume great. There's like a green smoke rising from the this. Is your new bit. which is the line holding us out there? It'd be great if like Porco I could sit around and smoke cigarettes or watching some young kid and making comments like like staying up late all the time will shorten your life or it'll be bad for your complexion. laughs of course reality. Ali Doesn't work that way. It'd be pretty tough to live the way the characters in this film do the staff members who worked on Poker Roseau to burn the midnight oil all the time and some didn't even get to rest on a Sunday. There are a lot of the reasons for this and it's an area where I need to meet him. I love here's the here's the part that I wanna get to but I personally enjoy it when I become so absorbed in something that I completely forget about myself that's Kinda sweet I know but like I feel like that is occupied. Wherever else's like we have to please Mr Miyazaki I the draw until my hands are bone? He's just like sitting there and he's like Oh. I pooped in my pants again because I just loved this movie so much. I forgot that I'm a human being right. Everyone else's like working overtime and crunching ranching music is like I'm trying to work so hard that I forget who I am that I become one with the work. I relate to that so I get that you seeing it about myself me. In PORCO I see me in Porco I do but at the same time when I'm making these movies movies I am not me. I am the movie like you know I. It's my body Yup. I love that love PORCO trying. I WanNa see what else he says about PORCO. Is there anything about pig my cat in there. Does he say anything about that. No no mention she swims treasury war I own around new national treasure and it's about my cat and cage like we've got to fight bits cut. He's trying to because it's a national treasure. She is a national treasure. You disagree with that. 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"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"But I love pigs when I was a child didn't have a pet most of the kids at school had pets and I felt left out. I had an imaginary pet. Pick name like you know tell people had a pack. I have a cat named pig. I know that's true. That's confused aimed after Miss Piggy I didn't I didn't know that either well. It was like a culmination nation of that and when I brought her home the first time she made a mess of my apartment the turn into a pigsty yeah she she did all the business business on herself. So then I had to try and put it in the shower and that wasn't good and then she just ran around tear everything up this funny aac yeah. This is sound fun. I wish wish I could watch that film that yeah okay. Hey cat ownership is tough. Then you should pitch this equation. He gets an autism. The heart is a producing okay. I love cats student over there. The kids like six minute thing when Ben pissed me his crazy project I said Katzen and Katzenberg. It sounds like a match made in Pluto. Oh the smallest of the planets. Do you think if he was back today he heard that like Neil degrasse Tyson made Pluto not a planet punch that I hope he would make distracts just do you think Sinatra you are off covens Shum to go like full McCartney and like you know guest don like a Kanye travel. You know what I mean like collaborate. Don't you imagine he'd be like the subject of lots of Click Bait. He would just give outrageous. Maybe he'd would be like Shatner on twitter yes yes. That's exactly it tells it like it is. I don't know he's a New Yorker like the guy but he's got brass balls. How old was he when he died? Let's say he says eighty two one thousand nine hundred Yep. I remember that's the sketch yeah I remember most from when Giuliani hosted. SNL strengthens the he hosted the night that he won the election yes and he. There's a sketch that Giuliani has an old Italian mother. I think was Sharyo. Terry Giuliani crossing crazy and it's not in New Jersey and the premise is that like Sinatra's kind of been on his deathbed okay and they're like all terrified. Everyone knew Sonata. We might lose them. I just remember that it's a weird weird not in it. It's just about that. It's Giuliani as the matriarch with his adult daughters. Others say Sinatra not framed pictures. Frank will never die crossing myself yeah yeah I prefer Giuliani's early really funny work yeah right. you know making the Staten Island ferry free very funny. They'd bit great beds so Russell so this is your rather be a pig and Juliana voter. When did you come to this movie? Justin sounds like you were later in terms of getting to most of the Ezaki. No I saw it's funny like you were saying earlier like I actually didn't like a few the Miyazaki movies I saw when I was a kid and I I watch Totoro for the first time like several years ago I love Totoro and so I just assumed that my I take from childhood. Were bad right and it yeah I would say like maybe six or seven years ago. I watched Totoro. I watched Nelson okay. I read the NASCAR mangga which is much larger a lot more sprawling than the movie and I got to Polka row so maybe like two or three years ago. and I wanted to fucking kick myself. I had to see him. I just had this sense of. I don't know there's there's there's sort of this myth of high Almaz ocoee of like what he's like that not that many animators get you look at me as ocoee and he's just like smoking in cigarettes and being extremely dark and sarcastic and interviews any watch PORCO Rosso Pogo is not like that. He doesn't have that weird glib yeah sort of nihilistic edge that Miyazaki has but everything else about Porco like the fact that he's just a guy who's like working on his fucking airplane and he's looking cigarettes. It's like Oh. This is the guy who makes these movies yeah. This is my insight into who he is. He's a pig yeah. I I feel like yes. I do feel like I get a greater sense of him watching this movie him as a as an actual person not what his worldview is the yes him him as a person is in this is the most in this and win writer yard the most plainy movie right troop session right and that thing of just like I can't relate to you if you're not well-versed planes yeah yeah and it's funny 'cause arose around the lake. You know Polka Roseau's adapted did from it. It's like they're Misaki. Manga that are actually larger and feel more Manga even adapted from fifteen page Manga. That's just I think Miyazaki Sake has talked about him like fucking in the nineties I really loved drawing planes and there are three different art books and mango where he's just drying planes and he's getting coming insanely detailed about the big health store Taivon's. Where's the pork arrose stuff is just here's some planes uh-huh okay this? This is the thing I want to read okay so right. He writes a man called the age of the flying boat but the film was originally planned as is a short in-flight film for Japan Airlines. Yes based on the Manga grew into a feature length Ville yeah. That's just wild insane if you look at the money it's it's like you can read it. In five minutes fifteen pages read in five minutes and that's the movie Bork Arosa but it's also like if they were like Delta airlines hired Martin Scorsese Eighty to make their inflate film and he got so caught up with it turned out to be aviator that is vic craziest origin of a film. Everybody wants to do a short film and then it's like Oh. This is a feature happens to I just love it. They're like me. It's really simple. Inflate movie talk about planes. I literally just buckle the seat belts the oxygen bags exit rows and he's like cool cool. It has expanded into a ninety minute inherited talk about war fast yes and the toll it takes on men and turns them into picks when they tried to enter heaven or reject this they were short walk is the book is planes right and he was like I cannot what a poor gross still had a scene where PORCO Rosso gave out safety yeah yeah we're proceeding. Apply your oxygen mask. I yes or before helping others. Yes always freaked me out when I was a kid. Hey Yeah don't like it now doing fine. Actually I know you don. I love it. You love it. Yeah crazy. Don't like cars. Have you ever been in a small single engine plane. I feel like I have I have. I got some five one so let me fly a plane Coo Yeah Oh shit. Let's let's just my favorite. This person's license told me the statue of limitations horrible crime is my friends irresponsible. We'll step that okay when you were a kid. Take the stick kid up his go and down his and I wanted me to the moon and he let me it just do that kind of move gesturing we're like I kind of turned the plane on its side. You did like a half barrel roll. Yeah Fuck Ben. I wanted to go to space camp so bad as a kid hid did get the fuck you talking about like. What are you buying food not space cam? Meanwhile you're doing barrels like fucking star. Fox is great. I hate the music you should make a star Fox movie. This movie is almost Fox movie as a big man especially in the last twenty minutes and this move very very you know get back here so let me get back here do a barrel. I should mention though having to jacked rushing that was that was unfortunate for you. Yeah Oh boy. I don't think I've told this story on the podcast before I went to space camp. Wow No you fucking I went I went. I went to Florida. I Okay I had this brochure. You went to the place where I had the brochure for this now but here's the story. It's a traumatic experience for me. One of the centerpiece attractions is that the driver scope which everyone watches from the side hiding goes like that's what I think. I'm going to be able to handle that whereas I'm like Oh. I know I won't be attending. Keep the deposit everyone last three sec back right then the final thing is when you get to do the simulation of the cockpit and they give you a binder that has a script and everyone has a role and my role was exercise expert which was such a fucking bummer kind of a disastrous role for you. It was like you're on the exercise bike and you have to keep epilogue of how it you're fucking hate. How long does the simulation take like an hour okay? You're like in like a capsule and it's like Oh. You're the pilot year the engineer you're the exercise expert and one person gets to do like the space walk like one person gets to go out in the arm and like in that role all is shown much cooler than everything else. You're not floating right. You're unlike robot a robot arm. It's it's pretty Jim Bulls Bulls analog but someone's like maneuvering you around. You're on a rig or whatever from my memory exercise scientists is the worst I fuck position. I hate it but I was already at this point like completely traumatized because the other big thing is here's our zero gravity like sort of simulation in the way they do it is it's essentially like a wall of rock climbing wall okay with like police except the wall is just kind of like a grid it looks like the set for rent or something right. It's like a metal grid of bars and chat and on the the pulley the other side of the police on the other side of the grid and on that side is your weight in iron impounds right so they way you before you get on it and then you get on this thing and because there's an equal weight when you jump up it feels like you're sort of zero gravity and you can clamp the wall and whatever that's simulation of like this is what it feels like to be able to whatever I was a like a dangerously underweight kit right so they just took like somewhat sack lunch input on the other side well. It was a thing where my dad was like. If you get to one hundred pounds I'll buy you a Tamagotchi sure and I wanted at that time gushing. I finally got it was a very old statement. Yes you got it but it was in two thousand fifteen. Yeah I got it from my thirtieth. My parents finally got me Gottschee. You've hit Ondo Right but I was like sixty pounds and they were like you gotta eat more. They're like funneling ice cream cream into my mouth like everyone's afraid I was going to die and they were just gain weight gain weight gain weight and I got on the scale at space camp and I was like like I got him one hundred and five pounds and I was like this is. I can't wait to call my tell them. Tom Gosh you ready for me. I'm coming home and I'm cracking got Eddie right yeah and of course I had not miraculously gained thirty pounds just while at space cam there's ice cream their skill was is broken and so they plugged me in and they let go and I shot up to the ceiling and you're in like a big like hanger and they couldn't get me down for two hours. Ahead Matt is based not exaggerate. This sounds so strong sleep over for like you had to stay there for and I left my almost all at home and it was a nightmare. I didn't know he had no mode Hanauma. Doll your big ullmark. I was big al Kid but the other part of it was that I would sleep on the elmo every night like as a pillow. Oh okay pillow ELMO head to look. What about pillows though do you ever hear about those? There is in a nose but I was so used to that shape that when I got old enough that was embarrassed about the height hi my pillow case. It's pretty cute griff. You're weird reported on them before but you are weird good but my main take it from space. Camp is two hours where they were like with a megaphone like the only way you're getting down is by yourself we don't have there's no way for us to get up there and to reach each you in there so much weight working against you. They were like you have to reverse climb down the grid..
"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"I've seen I just wanted to suddenly have a galaxy brain and be like I know Kung Fu. You know like I get it. I get the whole nothing it's fine. I Love Harare so he's a top five Guy Polka Russell Series on the film's a high yeah yeah what's it called. It's called House moving podcast and who's our gas justin charity damage control also co host of sound. Only we recently did an enemy podcast that we and even Galleon podcasts called Sowell idea yeah we did a mini series about neon neon Genesis Saving Kellyanne me and Mike Peters we did like the original TV show we did the movie the involving Galley and now we have a bunch of people and Sean Fantasies Mentions Chins campaigning for us to do the like even Kellyanne reboot movies and also cowboy bebop shirt. Will that will see a decent ago she ations. We'll see what happens I highly recommend watching original Lupin fucking the best. He's also a tough. I've watched any of the new loop like I've only watched. Ah Watching the first series. If you like Porco Rosso I recommend the it's not the most recent season campaign but it's one before that which is set unlike Milan European yeah good you know here. Here's the thing if you're digging into this. I've been trying to like exposure therapy. Break Down my walls with Japanese animation which I feel like I've been very selective in terms of what I've been able to connect with previously trying to like breakthrough all my my dumb western Biases Right you love animation though that's the thing you love the whole channel you just gotTa start familiar loving animation. We talked about this and I've been doing it. I'm getting into stuff but we talked about this. I think in a castle in the sky episode the fact that I love animation so much means that I so imprinted into American animation merchant shirt and it's like I I have to sort of and it's easier for me to do now but when I was younger as this is not how I understand animation to work so I was a kid got really into like structure and forms and patterns and things like that and it was so off the beaten path. I was experiencing even Jillian Evans complained to Netflix versions are fucked with right yeah. high fat is I have complaints about people's complaints because I was gonNA maybe take a swing at that. Might've Mike no not not fuck with it enough that watching it on Netflix is not like sacrilegious basic basic through with all. This stuff is like if you're not watching something in the original Japanese watching you're watching a translation of so watching one translation versus. It's like you're you're not watching the original things are translates English table chain liberties yet. That stuff is more like licensing problems in anime. They just in general has a lot of problem even the idea of getting even Gillian Net Flix yeah. It took a decade in some chain because the fuck anatomy industry is a nightmare and getting the rights to anything is very byzantine process and I think all of that show getting on Netflix and people being like well they didn't license fly me to the moon food. It just felt like kill me. Get the fuck out of here. They also replaced fly me to the movie another classic song from the original series like they were in replace it with Gangnam style yeah. It's kind of good yeah yeah yeah yeah just imagine trying to explain navan Genesis Genesis neon genesis two weeks after yeah right. What's a robot start there? There is that amazing I only found found out about this because of you might remember this lots of noble castes. Do you know about periodic table. Do you know about the Frank Sinatra space album. Yes I do too one of the early what's episode which was written by narrated by crane along with. Yes as I said this is the only reason I know about that but he did this triple album which is where his cover of New York New York comes from it but it's also like him going like Pluto place so you re discs okay. It's a triple album. It's called pass future present. I disc frank do and has classics right the standards second disc frank covering like present day like recent recent songs so he does New York New York that's him. I think doing something for the first time it's it's right a lot of the like Billy Joel Song it doesn't Neil Diamond Song Post seventy s songs Sinatra cover that are famous all come from that second disc and then the third disc no one talks about future a future and it's frank singing like and what of Pluto the smallest planet it's incredible. It's got this like bushes czar like ziggy stardust production great albums nineteen eighty. I think it's incredibly old Sinatra so maybe he was like gum. Digging your baby more robots suits I went to Japan not allowed to reenter diplomatic agreement to be struck by Jimmy Carter. Oh I called in a favor because I am deeply connected to the American American mop these crazy little green man. I love them kind of all the impersonations that I've ever have this five commissioner. I was driving down sixty six with Jimmy Hoffa. We ran into these real alien cats. He shot him in the face and we buried him in Nebraska. I just go to Nebraska Angie Dickinson. I took a wild weekend trip to area fifty one the first draft choice Porco I mean if you compare to attorney or like that Era Frank Sinatra you can pick them up curved by critter Shit Kirsch it but when I was looking for when I realized that Keaton was the voice of Porco Rosso and I want to find a trailer for the adopt so I could hear the voice I found a youtube clip of when they were playing all the jubilee films. I think it was right before Disney properly released all of them Chirp they were playing them all on Turner. Classic movies and Lassiter and Ben Mankiewicz would do the introductions together and Ben Mankiewicz made a really interesting point where he was like this is of all the Miyazaki films we've been covering this is the one that probably fits most at home on the one movie that feels like it could have been a fifty percent like that right and then he's fifty percent Kinda Wilder Miyazaki Shit but he said he was like you could imagine the three leads in this film being played played by like Gary Cooper and Carole Lombard and I forget who the third person he said was but I think the answer is Sinatra Played Grosso you could play poker right older Sinatra trickling Porco like fifty senator comeback. Oh you're right baby-faced could play the would have been too young to play old PORCO but old Sinatra's the perfect perfect guide up late fifties Sinatra can do it fifty Sinatra could do it he. He was pretty old in the man with the golden arm because in in the fifties he's in his mid to late. Forget puts forget. It was such an old man he was born in one thousand nine hundred fifteen yeah he's old old but kept young by those crazy muscians kids. I loved his on this planet. I'll sing you a song. GotTa play by my rules Green Mas pills in the episode. Where do you think he's Saturday? I don't Oh boys take. What's that but you hate hippie? He's the most anti I don't hate hippies hippies. You actually were refined with hippies sixties music ahead of huge influence culture. I dislike at Charlie Manson rolled up on me. I would have shot him square in the face. I think I got two things against Sinatra. A because I'm from New Jersey he's been shoved down my Garoppolo higher life sure it's like Sinatra Joe Biden man and that's like New Jersey and that he was born there and he was like twelve years like Outta here places a dump I mean I think there's like a famous mugshot of him. Him being arrested in hoboken. Yes tries to kill the governor. That's like the poster that people have on their fucking college. Oh Yeah yes of course where he kind of looks like Jon Diligent eligible yeah right right okay because we're making fun of him. You're doing his like singing kind of like schtick. It's not singing. He's just saying so. He's an incredibly he can. He can sing a lot of the guys forty goes for tastic. He's got pipe but yes later as career. The thing you could mark was him just sort of like release and I saw I saw the the second shot some good songwriting into bent so the second Byrd I never knew you at such a beautiful cleese. Oh yeah can sing. You can sing like an angel. Come fly with me okay enough of me. Where do you stand on Bruce as you love Bruce Bruce Bruce? My Man Bruce is like blue collar hero right but like we're talking about how good the Broadway slash net flicks specials as were. He's like I never worked in a factory crash bullshit. I'M GONNA fucking professional musician what he's talking about fancy. Nancy Twenty never worked in a pack. My family was into town you. It was not my life at all. I just found it. Only darkness is in the rooms. I don't enter in my mansion because it's so large okay well. I resisted bruce a lot too because it was so shut down my throat my dad's music but then later in life I discovered it and it's just like Nebraska Yeah in the USA. There's so many even as late eighties albums are so fantastic tastic. He's just a great songwriter so I've come on board to the Bruce Train. Where are you from Justin Richmond? He's from Virginia to the outskirts of Richmond Richmond's famous Deangelis. That's I mean that's I always associated with the hip hop scene the Angelo singing atmosphere. Oh Wow you spent time in richmond trying to find like you the list where it's like famous people from yeah. There's not someone who's like shoved down the throat in the same way Benz talking about though no like a clear cut like this is our pride and joy sort of no. He's the one who got up made good. I mean the the problem with the Angelo. Jason didn't really make it out he sort of got stuck in enrichment for a while and was going through some time we his down period was enrich yeah yeah if you'd read about him on local news it was it was rough with him. Apparently what is the guy with the hat Jason Mraz you say I never knew that or at least aimee Mann an apparently gals Charlottesville yeah but I think he's associated with Charlotte's yeah yeah let me see Oh Chris Brown who yes CB's from Yeah CB's Richmond Oh trey songz okay okay. I'm trying to see that's better trey songz from Petersburg and Guar Guar there from Richmond bar rules. Do you know that Guar every ten years they cycle through new characters and their due for a new set of characters might be behind on this. You might have already debut me. I love choir. Those kids from Richmond those crazy kids will love with their helmets and oversized weapons and I went to a show runs out socked in the jaw was part of the experience and I I love more than a couple of cats from school coming up with a conceptual theater project that somehow charts as a legitimate band. Maybe HEP cats from art. School is definitely Cleveland..
"rosso" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"Right right breath bed and you don't. I don't know what uh-huh I'd rather be a podcast than a fascist Porco Rosso top-five guy you think so I think a top-five Guy Right. Can I just WANNA get out of the way with something. I'm I'm kind of embarrassed by. I think this is my favorite one. We've watched so far I why almost I was almost certainly would be yeah and this is why I'm kind of embarrassed. Okay I feel like I'm falling harder for the kind of basic ship. What do you mean the base and basic is relative within a Miyazaki who've right none of basic no? I don't understand what you mean and we haven't gotten a spirited away. You know which I have seen right but you don't remember when I was fifteen didn't get what's going on. Forget it right right and I felt kinda somewhere on the twitter every watch I'm a little barris by don't be embarrassed. Totoro to me would be the basic one. That's like the most famous one of all. I know. That's why I'm saying I'm not getting into the ones that are like see right. You're not getting into the super. The Super Proteomic Me Izaak. I feel like the ones I'm getting into are the ones that are a little more Western like your favorites are Kogyo Stroh in this which are like Kinda set in Europe kind of like kind of about like action heroes right right right. PORCO Rosso is like so consciously know Masha like forty Hollywood. Yeah sure that's that's my my embarrassment. Is that the stuff where they're like. This is so much like this you never would find. Ns in American animation look at me as ocoee spiritually is now connected to nature and how willing to non narrative places and I feel like those ones I'm appreciating appreciating and not connecting with her or even those elements in the movie. I'm like a preview. Don't love nature. You're not really a nature guy I don't. I don't think of you as someone who's there's like guys. Let's go to the Hudson Valley and hike guys. Let's let's stay by a lake for a week. I'm not a fan of answer right. It has been a prominent almost every antic antic relationship I've ever had sure because classic you know. Let's let's upgrade the relationship is your Griffin go together. Desert's it's planes. There's there's all environment vacation as long as it's planes. I want to be in some plane. You're saying planes drifter yeah. You're saying okay the walgreens not airplanes planes like I mean look I don't I don't WanNa out myself as some like nature nature Dayton asshole but when you listed those things I my body physically ten. Stop all three of those things when you said like spotting books yes I did. I felt so I started holdings INC on his no. I felt my shoulders rise a little higher which each of those things I can appreciate it but like any time in nature and it's beautiful. I'm like this is beautiful. So how long before we get taught by just feel now I mean let's let's call it some other things right. Let's just like address all the elephants in the room okay and realize there were so many elephants in the room. I'm not designed for this world. Okay I'm saying my body is terrible and it feels like I'm someone who in like a society that is still actually based around survival of the fittest right would survive the shortest period of time and I think nature scares me because I'm not supposed to survive in natural environments. I only have been able to stay. Stay alive in this horrific or official Manhattan manmade. That's the thing about you. Yes you haven't even straight to the outer boroughs. You're like I'm sticking with Manhattan like the moster urbanized of the cities boroughs. I have straight but it's my home base. You've lived there. You live in Manhattan right. You've never lived outside. I've never lived outside of. Obviously you've gone. Ah just to make it sound like nice eye. Contact anytime retired bit traveling to call yourself to now travel but I do. I usually go to cities. I would say I do and when I go outside of cities. I get a little stressed and I didn't realize we were going to get into this because it was something something I've been thinking about but yeah right. I've been thinking you could talk. Just yeah please nature is awful. Thank you and Poker Osos the best news okay okay. This is great. I don't think it's that Western. It's pretty Japanese I think even with how European it is it but it is. It's one of his movies. That's like explicitly probably not set in Japan. This is set in a bond movie bond movie. I'm just saying I feel like I get the ones that are half-and-half you. You know what I'm saying like. Stroh is like Europe Caper v like Eastern Miyazaki storyteller sure but also via like one one of the most classic anime franchises right right right. I hear what you're saying but I think yeah half is probably the right way to think about it and I'm a little worried going into spirited away because everyone thinks that's like the best fucking movie ever made I had. I watched that movie for for some around the same time like fifteen years. I had the exact same react. The first time I watch bearded away sort of like what this is a very bewildering movie didn't quite get it. I just WANNA be able to like four. This mini series series. Come back to it and be like I get it. I'm converted. I love it. Look at me in touch with it. I love the people being friends with a river. You haven't watched spirited away no but I'm worried and have the same thing where I go like. This is very pretty. I get it but it's not as nature is it's mostly said in the bath how it doesn't have to be the nature stuff. I also feel like it's sort of like non literal spiritual. You've got you. You're saying that it's not that much about nature but it is literally about a girl fall in love with a river run foreigner love. He needs to understand that he's a river. Get back in touch with them so she needs to understand she's a whole person and he needs to understand that he's a whole river right and this is my nightmare my if you are river it would be like as the metamorphosis says I be fine being a bug griffin himself a river I would be terrified and in the worst thing is I wouldn't know how to end it. Do you know what I'm saying the guy that's dark. It's dark but I I wouldn't know how to end it Kegoe Stra. You liked left. I'm just watching Lucas Lucas and watching the show Lupin your watching like the first series Hasas guy feel like you were into very into but again. It's a it's an action movie like actually really Totoro was the one where you were kind of like wise this like hitting some deeper and look I I like porno but I read it below pork Orosa Castle in the sky and Lupin and I know plenty of our best friend and opponent Ham. I haven't seen Puna. It's like the one move I just. I have never seen it on IOS pretty cool. is pretty good movies. It's you know it's so so scared and his mom but she's fucking banging and here's another we're going to raise the table for hilarious back okay. Here's another thing I've been. I've been wondering if it if I should've watch these in the dubs and it's a sacrilegious thing to say now. I'm going to watch them all subbed because this is actually going to tell you to watch this but as fucking Michael Title Keaton I figured you were Polka rose or are you fucking kidding pretty good. It's kind of a quiet performance by him. I watched the trailer and I was all in yeah. It's great we can raise the table right now you. You should watch it. What is his laugh sound? PORCO laughs a lot more a lot. He does a good laugh. Okay Japanese like Japanese rules to be clear. I mean you loved. It loved it now that you've seen the sub especially watch the duck. I know I feel like if I was a professional. I would be watching each of these two times before recorded the episode. You don't need to watch the duck before you record the episode because like it's not gonna it's only going to confuse the matter honestly but after yeah you can always go back to those dubs. It's any of the small changes are good yeah and you watch I mean you mostly saw these dubs before subs right. No I saw spirited it away no mostly no mostly Nice yes yes because that was just on TV and stuff and theatrically you saw the right same but spirited I saw in subtitled theatrically came remember with how I think I saw that one sub dispirited away I remember seeing dubbed and thinking the WSB at the Dublin spirited spirit is not amazing right the girl the main two girls are just not. It's Lillo Leila. What's your name data also Leila? She's white. She's like Barry. White Girl didn't realize that okay MHM performance. It's a great performance. We launched issues so fucking. I haven't like I haven't seen a movie in almost twenty years. I Guess Yeah Tasinari CEPA. You said that that in Brighton Okay Disney's. I think there's shooting days. Basically I think they're the two best film home since wallpaper. I don't think that Ashman that's not true. That's crazy. I like him more than all musical. That's that's I don't. I don't I agree with you but that's okay. I think is a perfect thing and I remember being Leila is also kind of closest. Disney's come to making something that feels was a little like Miyazaki. It's very American in its storytelling treasure planet. It's got some Yuzaki but Balilan such as like is very small and intimate is all about the inner life you now and acute creature and the way they like involve like the the fantastical with the lake the whole relationship between Leland her sister and how much of the movie is about like this single mother trying really hard not a single mother and older sister who is forced forced to become a single parent and doesn't have time to like be her own age. now that I'm watching these muzhaqi films feels like that is the subplots plot every Miyazaki often. There's some sort of human spine to it like that tote around yeah all right well interest US spelling check griffin do a podcast Kessel from Agassi's directors have massive says early on the career and gives us. Here's a blank checks make whatever cruise parents want and sometimes they connect more with Griffin sometimes they don't. I like them all. I haven't disliked a movie..
"rosso" Discussed on KQED Radio
"The terror gap which sought to essentially prevent anyone that was on the fbi's terror watchlist fewer on that watchlist you can't boredin airplane yard meal as well forget born airplane you probably shouldn't be able to purchase a gun either but the nra successfully beat that back as well at the state level the maps just been exceptionally favorable to the nra especially since 2010 when republicans took control of a majority of state legislatures around the country and governor's offices to so it's the place where they're able to advance gun rights and experiment so what you've seen over the last decade is a proliferation of legislation that has been enacted that has allowed people to carry firearms and places that they've never male the carry before that includes bars churches college campuses daycare centers government buildings that's ultimately at the core of they're agenda is to normalize guncarrying and as many places as possible until it just becomes as natural of a thing to see in society as any other accessory the people carry round so the nra is working for this on the state level yes we did or a didn't douse us last year right basically worked at every state legislator in the county tree and source wanted ecsc goes curious how many lawmakers were not only sympathetic to the nra's caused rosso overtly expressing a willingness to do its bidding we're able to do the analysis by focusing on the inner is grading system if you're especially loyal lawmaker then you.
"rosso" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Push last year to close the terror gap which sought to essentially prevent anyone that was on the fbi's tear watchlist fear on the watchlist you can't borden airplane yorgo as well forget born airplane you probably shouldn't be able to purchase a gun either but the nra success we beat that back as well at the state level the maps just been exceptionally favorable to the nra especially since 2010 when republicans took control of a majority of state legislatures around the country and governor's offices to so it's the place where they're able to advance gun rights and experiment so what you've seen over the last decade is a proliferation of legislation that has been enacted that has allowed people to carry firearms in places that they've never male the carried before that includes bars churches college campuses daycare centers government buildings that's ultimately at the core of their our agenda is to normalize guncarrying and as many places as possible until it just becomes as natural of a thing to see in society as any other accessory that people carry around so the nra years working for this on the state level yes we did or it didn't dalasis last year right baseley looked at every state legislator in the country a and sort of smart scowls curious how many lawmakers were not only sympathetic to the nra's caused rosso overtly expressing a willingness to do its bidding we're able to do that analysis by focusing on the inner is grading system if you're especially wale lawmaker then you get a great of a her a maya serie a plus and as it turned out more than half of the lawmakers i think it was roughly fifty four fifty five percent of state lawmakers countrywide heaven aminus or better from the nra and then in a more granular sense and i think fourteen states you had legislatures in which twothirds of the law makers have a great of aminus or better which is to say that the nra and fourteen states have what is ultimately something that approaches or is a vetoproof majority so even if they've there was a governor who opposed legislation and those particular states which has happened before they have the numbers to override any any veto so why do legislators care that much about getting a highgrade.