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Feb. 23: Hear from Ross Brawn and Greg MacPherson

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Feb. 23: Hear from Ross Brawn and Greg MacPherson

"Coast to coast in Canada there. We are across North American Rama global the World Wide Web. This is race line as long radio network presented by Subaru and race Lennon's driven by that. Twenty Twenty Subaru. Wrx On wwl rex ti the typical sports cars with Subaru ours. Ed The attainable sports car. That's fun to drive. And by general tire anywhere is possible. A Subaru Canada presentation and your National Radio Motorsport Authority sign says race line radio. Networks come on in Eric. Thomas your host and anchor and rain postma. Our Supreme Commander Baseline Mass Control. Josh Santos still steers the network. This week demand runs one at the racing end director of Motorsport of their tech director. Mr Ross Brawn Rig McPherson from inside track is earning preview of next month's Mohtaram accustomed car in motorsports Expo we have sound with Joe Gibbs on the Newman crash and hinges returned to Andretti plus the Subaru Raisani mailbag trivia contest to the race rap news. Hinchcliffe back at home with the unready for trio and Joy Ghana wins but vegas again super fans everywhere powerful sport powerful Radio Twenty eighth year on the air across Canada. This is the race line radio network. This is March Junior. And you're listening to raise line. Radio as an unlicensed doctor. We suggest a prescription for one of our shows. Sign up for our free podcasts. At itunes or with your favorite podcast. Fake doctor's orders sports five ninety the van on demand. Eric Thomas six race line on the radio network with the latest news and opinion and we do that on the line race wrap Nascar top and our family certainly shocked to very core top of last week with that horrible Ryan Newman crash at the finish of the sixty second Daytona five hundred airborne. We've all seen Donna's Rufin clobbered by another car on the driver's side rushed to hospital too long agonizing hours before his family and Nascar released the miraculous news. That Newman was still with us. Serious injuries but not life threatening while and we all exhale then just a few days a few days later. He walks hospital with a daughter on each hand. Incredible you'll take some time obviously to heal completely and get back in the car which he fully intends to do. Five hundred hundred any Hamlin. Joe Gibbs did take some heat for celebrating when there was a serious situation on the track with Newman team owner coach Joe Gibbs and Denny declared. They didn't really know that Newman was badly hurt till they got to the start. Finish line coach Gibbs took the Daytona track. Pa system to apologize to the crowd and he talked about it later in the post race media conference or some people may sauce and several. These guys are celebrating when there is a serious issue going on so hopefully. I've apologized thereby but we really didn't know we got in the winner's circle then. That's when people told us later on the winner's circle so I wanted to explain that everyone and I'm glad he did. That's three Daytona. Five hundred wins for Hamlin's second row just happy and relieved. That Newman is okay. Cup at Vegas and Joey. Logano moving on and penske racing. Had this little love affair going with this here. Joint trading lead back and forth with teammate. Ryan Blaney Lugano. Got It back. Just before a caution with five to go to win it. After winning the same race last year Matt Di Benedetto a very strong second. That just might be his best finish ever in his career in. Cup Martin tricks. Junior third. Penske racing has thirteen top. Fives over the last nine races at Vegas. You understand the love affair. Ross chastain twenty-seventh those wondering subbing for the injured Ryan. Newman NASCAR VEGAS raincoat. After the first days they were to finish it after the CUP RACE NASCAR DOT COM for the conclusion their apologies. By the way to Canada's Alex l'Abbaye I just plum forgot to include is very decent tent last week at Daytona. Sorry about that. Alex trucks at Vegas guests. Who Kyle Busch Yeah candidate. Stuart freezes very strong nights top ten Raphael SR Jingle on Lap Ninety. He finishes thirtieth. He's learning that Askar panties series report brought to you by General Tire. Anywhere is possible. Lovely to see Quebec. Superkid Raphael sorry to take the two thousand twenty rising star award at the Canadian Motorsport Hall of fame inductions last weekend at the auto show in Toronto. His video loudly applauded and rightly so nice to share the stage of this extremely talented engaging eighteen year old who talks much more maturely than eighteen year old raves. Done some NASCAR candidates. Does you now hope we can do more with fulltime NASCAR truck gig with Kyle Busch Indycar? Well isn't this cool. And you Kinda could see this common. Couldn't yeah Andretti autosport. Planning to run Fernando Alonzo again in the Indianapolis five hundred but his disparaging remarks about Honda Engines Kill Bat. So Michael Brings Candidates James Hinchcliffe back into the Andretti family for three races the GP of Indianapolis the one hundred and fourth five hundred and Texas and Hinch is excited to be back home with Andretti. This is a team that I have a lot of really fond memories with it has always felt like a big family. I've stayed very close with a lot of the people on the team over the years Since two thousand fourteen and you know we always start a joke. Michael J. F. Night one day we were going to get the band back together and they have and I have in. The tune should be pretty good. Hint took three of his six wins for Michael. From two thousand twelve to fourteen. He is part of a massive six cars squadron for the Indianapolis five hundred. Wow more sound on this next week right here on Radio Formula One first. Preseason tested Barcelona Catalonia and nothing really to dissuade us so far to believe that Mercedes won't be as dominant this season as they were last season while Kyrie Botas quickest overall completing emerge one two on the timesheets with six time champion Lewis Hamilton. Just seven tenths slower just to test mind you but Canada's land stolen racing point very impressive fourth in the order behind Okan's Reynaud Canadian rookie Nicholas Latifi at engine issues in his Williams fifteenth. Best Ferrari Be Glad you asked metal thirteenth. That's about all more testing to come this week. Of course coming up at ones motorsport and tech director Ross Brawn. Our chattering is Canadian. Motorsport Hall of fame. Toronto autoshow visit the Rally News a presentation of the Subaru. Wrx and wrx Ti. Creating those Munster Sales Elfyn Evans is going to be allowed. They say to push the world rally championship title following his first win for Toyota in Sweden after beating reigning champ authentic leading every stage Evans is on top of the points with ten x Hyundai Teary Evans. Six time world title winning teammate Sebastian. Oj had been expected to lead the teams title charge this year. Although he admitted at the start of the season recall he had not demanded number one team status. Listen I don't care who does it as long as somebody on. The team doesn't drag racing nature a busy buzzing at Phoenix winners. Steve Torrington top fuel. That's wally number. Thirty seven for him. Tommy Johnson Junior in funny car and recent guest Erik Andersen pro stock that his career. Wally number twenty six. Erica bike swirl motor GP legend Valentino Rossi insisting insisting he did not feel disrespected by Emma has decision three placing with Fabio Cordaro for the two thousand twenty one campaign the seven time champ thinking about the possibility retiring after two thousand twenty although Yamaha's declare they will have a bike ready for him if he chooses to keep riding. Rossi is stressed the Yamaha choosing to commit to early deals for quarter. Errol and Maverick. Finales was in his word logical and insists. There's no hard feelings you know why. Because he's a pro faces in the pits foxsports ending up with well kind of a year to year downturn guess for the Daytona five hundred after the race was postponed Monday because of rain but there are some positive spins to the numbers in there always are the original Sunday telecasts which lasted only twenty laps. Peaked with eleven point. Two million viewers on Fox at six point two six rating the balance of the race on Monday when everybody was at work or at least most were average. Four point two rating in seven million viewers overall Fox claimed an average of four point four with their rating and seven point three million viewers last year's Daytona five hundred by comparison of five point three one rating and nine point two million viewers. So there you are in tsn. Twelve Ninety s signal. Winnipeg's David Reichert has signed to compete with Europol Competition for the twenty twenty race season in a formula Renault in Ultimate Cup series competition a championship featuring events on current and former F. One tracks throughout Europe. It's part of Dave's twenty year journey but as seen him grow from racing karts and Manitoba to formula cars. In Monaco. This year marks the reunion for record and the Inter Europe competition who I got together in. Let's see twenty fourteen or so the partnership has seen him experience time and several of their cars including Formula Renault. Gp TO AUTOMOBILES L. MP. Three SPORTS CARS INTERPOL. Make THAT ENTER. Euro-poll sorry that is a Polish bakery in Warsaw. They deliver bread and bread products over thirty nations. At least the team's going to eat well. The first race of the Ultimate Cup series goes at Cataluna in Barcelona Spain the twentieth of March weekend. And that will have to do it for this week. In the race wrap questions opinions. Comments always welcome. Let's hear from you. Share your thoughts and theories full gear heads across Canada because winning the Grand Prize in the Subaru Raisani mailbag trivia contest. Quesnel rain pit. Stop please but coming up. A preview of Motorola with Greg McPherson this race line presented by Subaru. Arrange a performance drivers week until local Subaru dealer. Anywhere along the race. Line Radio Network. This is James Hinchcliffe and you're listening to race line. Radio send us all your money. Sign up for our free podcasts at I tunes or with your favorite podcast. You're and we'll send you a free subscription for sports net five ninety-two fan on-demand absolutely free. Canada's National Radio Motorsport alert. He is indeed the race line radio network. Spring comes early when we start talking about the annual Motorola customer in Motorsports Expo March. Thirteen fourteen and fifteen at the International Centre. Toronto across the street from the Pearson Airport. This unique marriage of race cars custom cars hot rods and attractions is packed. The complex since they glued it all together. The folks behind Motorola are the same good folks publishing sidetracked motorsport news all longtime friends of this program. So let's get an early Mohtaram preview with editor in chief from inside track. Motorsports news Mr Greg McPherson on race line radio MAC. We see this every year. But we need to because it happens to be an actual fact that when you're planning something as large it's almost a year round endeavor in in terms of the planning isn't it. No it absolutely is so after Christmas. It really gets intense and everything else. Kinda gets put aside but Yeah you know even as we're you know less than a month so right now we're thinking oh boy we should have done some of this stuff earlier you know just. There's not enough time in the day to do put inside track magazines and the things we do and Into everything that's involved in putting together this huge Motorola Michelle exactly now. Normally you have a special guest. We've had you know Ron CAPPS way. I guess what we should. Maybe you mentioned right off. The top is the fact that that Ryan Newman who was a special guest Admiral Ram not that long ago. is in serious condition after that crash at Daytona but Good to hear that his injuries are not life threatening and he became a friend of ours when he was at Mohtaram. So that was pretty good. News Wasn't an absolutely. It is tough like these guys spend so much time with everybody and all our guests who've come to the show you know you see them at the track after it's You you really. Last night was tough those couple of hours before. You heard anything so yeah. It's just a relief to hear that he you know he's a tough guy and I'm sure if it's you know can recover from it. You know the injuries that he will but Yeah that was. That was tough last night. Afterward watching that yeah. It sure was and You know good to hear that The rocket man is probably going to be okay. At least he's still with us. And that's the main thing. What about a special? Let's get back to that amine. It's tough when you've got you know the racing sanctions in series running the same time you are. How close are we to announcing a special guest for the show Mac so our our Big One? This year is from the custom car and hot rod kind of world. I'm the the whale the Goat would-be chip Fu ever. Since we've ever since we've had the show he's been the the target the guy you'd like to get and you know we were able to do that this year. So we're really say chip is coming for two days Got some other celebrities. I Gosh I was so close on the headwind from coal. Pardon that he could come with his Katie. Toby come they call them to book the Plane Ticket? And with his new business. I don't know his wife tapped on the shoulder and said let's march break. You can't leave a resort alone for this and so hopefully another time for a call. It was it was really excited at that point thinking we could get him. Yeah and and that's fine Give us a couple of other little special attractions. You know. It's it's a perfect marriage as it turns out between race cars and hot rods and custom cars gives us a a couple of ideas and some of the special vehicles around back. Yeah so just the the breadth of it. The Main Hall Got Twenty eight incredible. You know cars that are pretty much all built to show off at the show people you know. WanNa debut them. They're the racing zones sidetrack racing zone presented by Stone Ridge Tons of race cars tracks series. This year. We're putting a stage in there so people can be interviewed and do some of the words presentations for the racing community. And they're Nice That's GONNA BE NEAT but again like stock cars racing drag racing harding if you're interested any that tracks every in the series. I'll have their schedules out for the season. So you can pick all those up for the year in there Hall to the Big High Ceiling Room tons of clubs corporate displays. Amazing cars like the the feature ones. We brought up Like saved from Seymour Syracuse. Some of the other car shows we were at Towards the end of last year Spring fever modified tuner room in hall three and then the second year in a row The mayhem room. Which is all rockabilly. We've got fans Berbers Tattoo. Artists Pinstripe Irs. So that's that's GONNA BE PRETTY NEAT and this year adding a truck area so called Trumka Ram and we'll see I can see that growing into another room Down the road on its own and the erstwhile media panel on the Sunday. I hope we're doing that again. Mac absolutely the show without that. You guys are amazing ever instead up there and like I guess whether it's the Bradley Todd Lewis Tees up some some topics and you guys go at it. It's not fun. I know your friends. But it's no-holds-barred how it's good. It's good it's a good deal running on time here Mac Give us an idea how to get tickets for the Mohtaram accustomed car motorsports sexual absolutely yes If you're Mohtaram show dot com up near the top get tickets We're going to be announcing some VIP sessions to if people wanted to participate in VIP meet and greet and have a little time extra some of our special guests including chip foods but otherwise yeah Mohtaram show dot com. There'll be lots of news coming out the next few days Hopefully everybody there. It'll be excellent Greg. Thanks so much for this We'll do another preview when we get closer. Thanks so much for the time. It sounds like it's going to be another spectacular show. Thanks so much Mac. Thank you eric well. There is the very first preview. GonNa do two of these of the march thirteen to the fifteenth Mohtaram accustomed car and Motor Sports. Expo with Mr Greg McPherson from inside track motorsports news. He is the editor-in-chief and boy. These guys work a. Lotta hours getting this thing. Ready to go. And as we said it's almost it's almost a year round endeavour check again with Mac as we get closer date wise to Motorola. And of course. We'll see you there for the media panel on the Sunday. Okay Lorraine another pitstop if you would please. What straight ahead. The Subaru raced on email trivia. Contest your chance to win the Grand Prize. Pack got some notes from just about across the country this week. And that's a good thing so don't you dare go anywhere lots more to do. This is the race line radio network. This is stuart freezing and you're listening to race line. Radio subscribe to a radio shows at I or with your favourite bod catcher. Do Not Settle. Mad Sports Net five ninety-two fan on demand. Canada's national ready all Motorsport Authority the race line radio network. I'm Eric Thomas Good to have you here. 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Subaru Raisani mailbag Trivia Contest Grand Prize. Pack to win if you qualify by answering the Subaru Trivia questions correctly. In your email comments do that. Andrew goes into the break drama with a with a winner drawn at random at the end of the on-track racing season the current Trivia question being pondered. Yeah I don't know if I'M GONNA change it at the end of the month I probably will. I don't know the Tweet is the two thousand twenty Subaru wrx and wrx sti comes equipped with the premium sound system. You must describe that system in pretty fair detail okay. I'll read it again. The twenty thousand Sioux wrx. Wrx Sti comes equipped with a premium. Sound system you describe the system simply say it's loud. Well it it could be loud potentially but we need few things like you know. Number of speakers walks with the amplifier that kind of thing given away too many hints as it is right now marine. Wants me to stop So I will anyway. You want to get on here and play the contest. It's Eric at race line radio DOT CA to connect an end of the trivia contest to a chance to win the prize back. That's capital E. R. I K. At Race Line Radio One big word DOT CA facebook instagram. As well haven't talked about this very much but certainly you can connect that way race. Line radio networks. They handle their for facebook and instagram on twitter the symbol at capital e. capital t capital our race lines so that's at et race line. Okay Okay let's go to the mailbox and get some entries here. Had A a lovely note for our good friend. A Guy who helped us put race line radio on the twenty eight years ago. Scott Goodyear. Who's in the Canadian Motorsport Hall of fame himself and he said Eric? I want to congratulate you on your induction last weekend into the Canadian Motorsport Hall of fame. Isn't he good guy very well? Deserved honor thank you so much. Got Eric Hanger. Remember when you started your show twenty eight years ago and would help transform the landscape for young Canadian drivers trying to make a name for themselves in motor racing. I'm sure I speak for all the Canadian drivers when I say. Thank you for everything you've done and continue to do for Canadian motorsport. Well Gosh thank you Scott but the mandate of the show and it continues to be in will be as long as I'm running it R F three series by the way. Et is going to be competing at trial. Revere August not sure if you attend that event but I sure hope to see their been years since I've been to Trevi area me to Scott's really looking forward to coming back there with our three series Eric. Congratulations again on your hall of fame. Induction sincerely Scott Goodyear race director F. Three and F. Four. Sec Pro Racing Carmel. Indiana do appreciate That note from you got ends. I say he's the Guy who helped us put race line radio on the air. Some twenty eight years ago to more notes of congrats in induction to the hall of fame. And thank you so much for these folks. I'm really humbled by them. One was a twitter message. And that's at E. T. race line from helen out called bannock who catches the show on sports net. Nine Sixty Calgary Sunday nights at eleven mountain time. Hi Eric just heard about your induction into the Canadian. Motorsport Hall of fame. Best wishes and congratulations. My Dad used to race in these parts at race city and he was a fan of your race line Motorsport Television. Show television show on. Tsn Way back when and now the radio show as well all your work. Promoting Canadian racing is appreciated. More than you realize and I do thank you Helen. There's Helen Called Banik from bonus which is a a section of Calgary and On instagram Race Line Radio Network is the address there. A message from Terry Tomlinson. Who Hears this Sunday nights at eight o'clock or after the game on six ninety in Montreal Eric? Not only do I enjoy race line radio I also like hearing you on the morning show with McKenna and star Monday mornings and again Friday afternoon heading in to the race weekends with Mitch Melnick. I like it when you and Mitch Talk. About music as well. Yeah I can enjoy that as well. We are fellow Bass player's you and I. Oh that's cool that's great. He says keep up the great work on race line and your inclusion into the Canadian racing scene with the hall of fame. Can't wait for the F. One season to begin. Perry Tomlinson In Montreal thank you so much for those kind notes at entry into the contest quickly. Bill Clawson's on Schwarzenegger Five ninety-two Fan in Toronto. Seven o'clock on Sunday morning says loves the show describes the sound system and the wrx Sti. He's got it right. Villas in weight ago senator contest comments US Eric Race Line Radio to connection enter the question. The Twenty Twenty Subaru. Wrx and the equipped with a sound system described the system. Okay okay crack off another pit. Stop here rain. Then were one on one with f one boss Ross Brawn. It's race line presented by Subaru for the ultimate performance handling chest rival Beers at sports. This week anywhere along the race. Line Radio Network. This is bobby. Allison you're listening to raise mine. Radio this ain't a game sign up for a credit card just to get the prize and then immediately cancel the credit card. Because there's no price when you sign up for a radio shows at I tunes four with your favorite podcast here. Sports Net five ninety-two fan on demand. Canada's National Radio Motorsport Authority are twenty eighth consecutive season on the air across Canada. We are the race line radio network. A very special treatment of this importance in stature comes to us so we certainly jumped at the chance to spend a few minutes with a guy who basically runs formula one at the competition level during a visit to the Canadian. International Auto Show as McLaren was inducted into the Canadian. Motorsport Hall of fame along with yours truly a few valuable minutes with the director of Motorsport and technical director as well for the Formula One world driving championship Mr Ross Brawn on race line radio. I have been an enormous fan of yours in your endeavors in your accomplishments with Schumacher and others. And it's a distinct pleasure to be sitting across from you and I get to call you. Ross everyone else does. My motivation career started as an apprentice. And I've never stood on formality and that I think helping my career so and much more comfortable with it. So it's it's a special treat to be able to spend some time with because normally when you come to candidates Montreal for the Grand Prix. You don't often get to the Toronto win. This is kind of like indycar. Countries stockcar country even dirt track racing. I heard you talking with Johnny Rutherford. Earlier it's nice to get you at at this end of the country is as it were Brown Soi and his team at Montreal. Encouraged me to come up and It's clear that huge enthusiasm and in Canada for Motorsport replaces would be if one's Ross brawn on race radio. I don't know how many people have actually asked you this question. You come from the competition side to the administration side. How are you enjoying the GIG? Not the same as being an team but I. I reached the point where I didn't want to continue to be a team is twenty four seven in Tennessee stressful rewarding intensely stressful occupation. And I got into my sixties and I decided that I was going to take a step back and I always felt that there was an opportunity in foam wants to have some an organization that would support the development of the sport with Bernie and Ben. He's done a fantastic job. Perform not criticize many at all but he never had that mindset for him that was left to the teams to develop the sport and I think having a spotless developed by the teams can have some weaknesses so this I've been offered this opportunity once before it didn't happen when this came up and I spoke to the people that the media it became clear it was real. I am vision of us to to do what I'm doing. And that's what drew me back into the sport but in a different role. It's still pretty busy but I'm not awake at night. Worrying about crash tests so some new development that hasn't worked so I guess it's accurate to say. It's maybe a little less stressful this gig than the old GIG. It is an also. I can organize myself from I. Complete my work ratio is a little different with a team. You're on it. Twenty four seven recite is no. We've all been there. And that's what I enjoy thrived on. It's not a normal job but it's more normal than practice and it's is it simplistic enough or maybe inaccurate to say because most people would say well. He's like a hockey player. A football player a soccer player. He's played the game. He knows all the pratfalls. You can't be s the guy if he comes on the administration side technical director and the director of Motor Sport. No one's GONNA pull any fast ones on you because you've been on that other side. Does it make the job easier or is it too simplistic to say there is no? I think that's a fair comment. I think what I've seen what I've been to help with this. I have Two very senior colleagues chase carrying show Braxton's who knew very little about for more on and I saw people trying to pull the wool over there is I mean. They're very smart people now but I saw happening and I was able to quietly advise them on and they relied on my experience from one to who would be straight with them. Who perhaps I mangle. What was going on so I think you're right in your assertions that people don't tried on short term decisions or easily debated what's more difficult. Debate is the impact of long-term. So if we look at something like a cost cap. I'm convinced that will level the playing field other people Aleska Vince. But I'm convinced that a competent team. Not Mercedes if you have their budget. They weren't goes fast but they'll still be doing a fantastic job within the budget Permitted and they could well still be the best team but I think how soft some if they are but I think that will bring more competitive for more on now. The people more skeptical of action. And we'll see but those areas are more complex because you're not simply repeating experience. You're you're predicting the way things will be. You're going to not necessarily have a majority or unanimous decision by the teams to make adjustments in other words those gray areas of the rule book with a very clever people in the sport and I'll mention Roger Penske for one and there's others who don't necessarily break the rules they simply take advantage of what the rules do not say if you need to change it. You don't need unanimous approval from all the teams to make those adjustments and I think that's probably at the root of why this cap and the changes that are coming in twenty twenty one to gap no to bridge. That gap is going to work. Because you're able to make those mid season adjustments even if a few teams don't like it. Yeah I think that's a very good point what we did when we set off on this adventure to look at all. The aspects affected the dynamics within formal on on one of them. Was that beyond a certain time point about halfway through the previous season. You couldn't change the rules without unanimous agreement today. That menu is stuck so if somebody came up with a concept or an interpretation that was really outside the regulations but to the to the letter of the law was correct. Then you stuck with it for eighteen months now I. I'M A hypocritic because I've always been practicing that for many years but you take a step back and you say do the fans really get turned on because somebody is found a loophole or do they turn because these great competition going on. I don't think they get. It's a fascination if somebody's found a loophole but when that loophole enables a team just to dominate and disappear. I didn't think that's great for the sport if a loophole. Because he's a Hummer in the wrong place in the regulations that doesn't make any sense and therefore changing the governance and we have what we call the majority in the Super Majorities majority is where we We have good noses on regulations. A supermajority is when we change anytime so as long as we convince eighty percent of teams. This is something that we should be different. We can change things tomorrow and I think I said really critical change in the complexion for more two things sound of the cars which seems to have lessened a little bit in. Its IN HIS SEVERITY ABOUT PEOPLE. Saying they don't sound the same in la how they sound there too was television rights. I don't know whether you're exactly plugged into that. You probably are with Canada with sky Negotiations are going on with one of our national networks to bring those races there. You do want to have the majority of the fans watching this stuff on TV. Don't you rush? Redo in very sympathetic to finding the best solution to suit a particular country or particular region some countries I mean China for instance. We largely on terrestrial TV because that gets massive coverage in the UK. We're on pay TV with with certain races. Shown on terrestrial Sir Mix and we try to find a mix best for the country or the region involved so we are as considered as we can be with with with files but there's a commercial reality as well and we're trying to balance the two sound of the cars. A lot of people are complaining about that anymore. They were a while ago but that seems to have died down a lot bit noisier. They've yeah they've got a bit by the developments and so on people have adjusted to them and we have very little about that but it is it is a factor it still comes up and when we look at the engine for the future that will be one of the key points will consider the fact that unfortunately the corona virus problem in. China is going to force. Let's say a postponement of that race. But rescheduling it. You haven't got a lot of wiggle room on the schedule with Vietnam being there and does not allow room there but if you can reschedule it I know you will. Yes and China's become a very enthusiastic. We turn the tide in China. I think a few years ago and we've done a lot of promotional work fan festivals etc. And it's a very strongly growing market for us. So it's that we can't we can't put race on but we'll look at the end of the stuff and I haven't got a solution but we looking to say. We completed in late in the season. Happy with the direction. The Formula One world driving championship is going. You think you're headed in the right direction. Yes you get frustrated. I wish we could have done some of the things we've now managed to achieve a little bit earlier but you have to respect the views of of the teams they make a huge investment infomer- one. It's not a total autocracy. So so yeah yeah. I'm pretty happy where we are. An honor to be sitting across from you. Thank you so much for the time and come back and see us in this neck of the woods here. Next time you can buy great. Thank you very much and Bigalow tool the fans in kind of well. Very simply one of the smartest men in this sport and just a very decent easygoing bloke who has a very important job running. Formula One. The World Driving Championship at the track level and the competition level. You're not gonNA pull the wool over his eyes. That's for sure a pleasure to speak with Mr Ross Brawn on race line radio okay. Lorraine that final pitstop is here. Then we'll be back with the last laugh next week's show lineup and more this presented by Subaru powered by the heart pounding. Wrx says ti now. Fifteen time Canadian rally manufactory champion on the race. Line Radio Network. This is Ross Perot. And you're listening to race line. Radio subscribe to a radio shows at itunes or your favorite podcast. You're no medical exam or health. Questions will be asked sports net five ninety-two fan on demand. Eric Thomas it's race line across Canada on the race line. Already on that right white flags up. They're warmer left to go. So here's what we're planning for you for next week. Sound with James Hinchcliffe and Michael Andretti as the boys reunite for three indycar races this year at Indianapolis and Texas speaking of indie spending a few minutes with three time. Five hundred winner Lonestar. Jr legend Johnny Rutherford including some vivid dirt track memories plus the Subaru Race Lonnie mailbag trivia contests but a win checkers fly. We say goodbye. Hugh enormous race line thanks going out to Ross Brawn and Canadian Auto Show Media James Hinchcliffe Ryan Weatherford Andretti autosport Joe Gibbs and NASCAR media big. Thanks as well to Supreme Commander Lorraine Post Ma and Josh Santos for operational and production excellence. Supermodel visit racing radio. I'm Eric Thomas. So long every one race line coast to coast. Radio Network presented by Subaru has been driven by the Subaru wrx wrx STI and be ours. Ed Learn more at Subaru dot ca and by general tire anywhere is possible. 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02:26 min | 9 months ago

Newsflash: McLaren Pulls Out Of Australia After Positive Coronavirus Diagnosis

"So I'm James Allen of the news obviously that McLaren has decided to pull out of the two thousand twenty Australian Grand Prix following a team member testing positive corona virus joined by GP racing editor. Ben Anderson Executive editor at coddling and former Ferrari race engineer. Roddy Basso Gentlemen. Obviously things moving very quickly very serious situation McLaren pulling out to the Grand Prix very fast moving situation this We talk about from being the fastest sport in the world where there's a fee it's been. Maybe outmaneuvered by events Going to Melbourne wanting the race ago head. Which is you know nibbling itself but that is Farsi shutting down entire countries Shutting down the world economy in global sporting events being canceled in quick succession Defeating Forum was kind of waiting to see if it could be virus out and keep it kind of traveling circus in the bubble but now there's this first positive test. I imagine we'll see perhaps domino effect and I'd be very surprised if the Grand Prix now happens as planned Rhody. I agree I WOULD BE SPICY FOR. Melbourne IS GONNA. Start to the weekend the race. Weekend now Of course the decision from Connor was a very brave but meantime In for the teams is very important to take care of your people invest in your people in make sure they They work in the best possible environment. We know risk starting from the driver to all the team and then so I just sees this as a very ethical decision And I again. I completely agree. I think they will be other teams joining or Lewis. Hamilton was very outspoken. Drivers press conference in Melbourne. Saying he couldn't believe Franken. This was this was going ahead Ross brawn as well had said before the weekend that if there is a race without one of the teams won't count for the World Championship. How'd you see this unfolding student would be interesting to see a non championship Formula One race the first time since the Elliott is I think was the nine hundred ninety one South African griego struck off the record after the fact so that there is precedent for it whether there's a competitive appetite for among the other competitors. United's there'll be a lot of people who've been waiting for leadership from Formula Walnut and the FAA An haven't seen that sort of leadership will now look at what McLaren of dumb and think. Well actually maybe. We should be safeguarding. Our employees as well because you to hit the track in Albatros for Friday. Free practice in a few hours time. Obviously the situation moving very quickly. And we'll keep you updated.

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The Challenges Faced By Ducati

The Tank Slappers with Lewis and Uri

22:41 min | 8 months ago

The Challenges Faced By Ducati

"Hello and welcome to the tank. Slappers podcast autosport in the motorsport networks podcasts. For All things to wield I'm your host of the sport international editor. Lewis Duncan and join me as ever his motorsport dot com global more. Gp Editor. Oreo Poos on an Oreo. You're still in Australia. Have things. Well yeah here things. Are I think more quiet than than Europe by I can't wait to come back home I think I've been saying that for the last three podcast but still the same as low as you. You and your family look after yourselves. Yeah Yeah Yeah. We're we're good. Yeah so well. Let's talk about some bakes. Everyone seems to be talking about you. Know Corona virus. I think we should talk about something more Chidi. Although to be fair we will have to talk about current events a little bit. Because we're going to talk to Kathy and Greg. Talk about no bikes. We're GONNA talk to Kathy and the impact of the corona virus on on all the most GPD over the next few weeks because as quite an interesting topic because we face an unprecedented situation vote. Sport rate no no no one seed innocent sense since the Second World War and speaking to Pella Shabazz. Save from M. D. Cassie this week. And he's been actually telling you about the challenges. It too catty. Face and obviously to catchier European manufacturer Europe's quite hard right now so production is stopped on road bikes aid and of course it can any race development. So it's a double fold problem for two catchy because they're not selling bakes to to make money to to make the core of the money and not able to raise to get sponsorship money to keep the reason go into a deficit situation. Yeah it's very difficult for. It's difficult for them. Both arms of the I mean their main business out affected by by this crisis by the Koran abide things so because they only to the US to factories in the wall the main is in Borgo. Plenty Gallini Italy With do of course Is faced and the other one is in in Thailand basically for all the Asian market but the main one is immortal galley and and the factories closed since the thirteenth of of March so yes. They are From the business from the commercial side they are starting quite a lot They know what what's going to happen because he easily decided to keep the Diana's all the main factories shut it down. They will have to see what what they do. one of them or the one of the possibilities that because at the moment more still than employees our own unholiday lead. Don't know how in English but in Spanish you take forced Holiday Inn they are. Yeah we would say for low okay. Okay but at some point. They'll have to do something because they cannot this vision like this. So let's let's see how it goes From from next NEX Week because when the government has to decide if they'd gonNA keep with these lockdown I mean fall a few more days or more weeks. That's from the business point of view and don't forget that both sides the business by not be one raising. Bill are related so Last year eighteen day of salt fifty three thousand bikes around fifty. Three thousand bikes showed. They already know that these year they're going to reach the number so And all the budget is related. built up by DIS number. So they will have to reorganize the staff and all all the racing the firemen Considering than they're going to said much less bikes I just you know not point. You know this is. This whole thing has come at the worst time because it's no April may that's when bake sales at the highest and Europe. The weather gets better it that that's the same with Seko's it's a very seasonal saying it's you know people read them for five six months of the year when the weather's nice and yeah that's what. Networks are fed to me that they had to me. That is the worst time of the year to shut down the factory. Because so yeah now. It's them as you say this time of year. When they people starts to enjoy the weather And and then if you enjoy the weather I mean a bike is the perfect way to enjoy the weather exactly. And it's sort of a twofold problem because we hope that this will all be by detained we get to August. This will all be over but people aren't GonNa have as much money as they did. You know star this year so we'll get into next year. They might not be willing to buy a bake them able to buy a bake. So it's you know that this is something we talk about this as being sort of all you know. What's the short term impact really stretch it? It's going to stretch for years. Yes the effects in defects. I mean Garnett time to recover from the financial point of view so And don't forget people and it's understandable. People get scary Because many people lost their jobs. So I think that When this happens lasting you think about it is to think about this this to buy a new like a bike Especially I would say that. Maybe they struggled a bit more because I don't get me wrong but do Kathy is like like a fancy Peru a fancy by You know if you I'm going to take that data perform rallies and mass done done. Don't get me wrong you've got to you by cutty. Yeah you're you're you're you're looking at this so maybe eighties upbeat more difficult for them. Even done done for for example. Honda our of course for much more difficult than than for the Japanese manufacturers. Yeah well I suppose it's about with. The Japanese Manufacturers Law of their core product is under Bordon's and a two class bake so so three four hundred. C C machines are huge in the Asian market so whereas to Casio doesn't have that class of bike. So it again all these little things you don't think about from a race in point of view of the has such a huge effect on a on a manufacturer's ability to go racing There was an interesting point that Shibata raised an interview. You did with him. It was unconcerned. The raiders they have for this year. Of course we've been talking about this for a few weeks if that. Let's say to catchy been caught by the radio market the way Shabazz. He talked about The staff may actually be a benefit for them. Because they're not gonNA have you know we mark has into Honda for what we think is a hundred million euro contract? Vanilla quarter have fairly big contracts. You know I'm GonNa have to pay the crazy kind of money that Holden Yama are GonNa have to pay for their raiders. So in a way it's there is a small benefit to their situation so To me explanation from from telepathy it makes sense but is just. If you've got from one tight you know what I mean I mean you can think I mean I can give you arguments to thing. They'll put you know what I mean. Because at the beginning I asked him about the writers about not having the right they're contracted for next year continuing that maybe it was a. I will save me steak or it was a problem for the Party and he told me than it. These actually opposite okay but I would say that Honda. He's not worried about Hobbies Marcus signed for four years. You know what I mean so I'm not thinking on Honda. I don't I don't see that Honda things that they've made a mistake by signing market for forty years because he would be you know Very let's say non aggressive or on Weiner point of view so Honda Did what what they did. And yet my heart ready happy. I'm very pleased with With the writers. Do Kathy at that point. I think that now day. No data no yet but they will know what they can offer to writers but available writers are still the same. It's a catch twenty two Jakarta in one way of a financial benefit born the second hand with their current raiders. And with the raiders available to them can they fight Marquez candidate the ABA highs in the next two years you have to? It's hard to hard to say that they could really not taking away from the vets. Go assumed Patriots Raiders. You know as we've mentioned we think you know see also as he got another championship fe m. I don't know I personally don't think so. I I don't know what your thoughts on that I think that the main the main the main thing of Dhabi is on this. This problem is that considering charities answers it Luke's that they approaching them. The writers for next year as financial thing. Why do well story? While Honda and Yamaha half approach the problem from them. racing You know from the better business. They were trying to find the best possible teams. Now do karate. I don't think well they`re. They're by level as I said they are bi-level writers are fame include. Dr But I'm a thing that Luchetti now is approaching this choice by the financial point of view nor I mean from Yes racing point would be or from them for nobile debate. Take a safe approach because the thinking on the financial says yeah. Yeah I I think it makes what what what one when he says that we cannot a sign writers. If we don't know that if we will be available I mean able to pay them okay. It's fighting off. But it means that you have huge limitations at the moment the main limitation that you have is the market because you don't have many Available writers but the second one is from financial partner with which is understandable but I think it will affect to the to Kathy. Your chances to catchy has said previously the their their options right now for twenty twenty one or basically all five of DECAF raiders currently so Davi Portuguese Soko Meller in Bag Niagara. Which all of that. You Know Jeff Miller's per lead the best option but you know much money's GonNa you know demand as another manufacturer going to be able to offer beg money you know we. We don't know right and we don't beforehand. You thought maybe but no we. We don't know because of the situation. Yeah exactly I mean the thing that is that most of the I mean. All of the European manufactures will be affected in seeming. Our Way Than Coty. So maybe more In a few weeks I will. We will approach the decayed the M Feeder and will see that they are even more affected than the lead. He goes a are they. Have I mean in the end? Do Patty Compete in modern world. Superbikes but kate the M has. I mean writers and races in many different disciplines. So yeah I think they're going to start unless wetter from the from the financial point of view. Yeah very interesting. We're going to go for a quick break. Epa joiners US after that so good ask you a question about the calendar. Welcome back this week. Tanks Lepers podcasts. And as I mentioned before the break I was GonNa ask you a question and who you mentioned something in the first half the cost of racing You know this as we go into the next few years we're going to need to rethink it going into next year. It looks like we could have maybe twenty one races on the calendar. Do you think no that. That's even possible for the over the next few years to have calendars that beg by think so really. I. Yeah I think especially supposed to. I mean as long as former one does it and as long as yet I mean in the end. Twenty to twenty one doesn't make any any difference to me. I mean I would say that it's completely different story. You're thinking on twenty five ramp race a year but from twenty to twenty. I've seen some buying GotTa Mailo said that from two thousand twenty two to two thousand twenty seeks would be a maximum of twenty two races. That's that's what he's trying to with the with the manufacturers so I don't see any any different between twenty or twenty one the the I think more now on many teams particularly motor motor three. How many of their. How could they afford to do that? Many races know given the current situation and the financial implications will have an extra years because formula. One Is Talk Ross Brawn former boss talked about this the other day that he still thinks formula. One could have a nineteen race championship this year. Which is as far as I'm concerned. That's quite reckless. Talk because doesn't consider at all the financial difficulties of host in that many races and the current climate when teams aren't making any money to me and digital opinion. I know that yeah. I don't want to for MORE PEOPLE. Come over me but After what they did in Australia I don't believe any more or less what they say or what they do. Because to me I mean than yet that teatre dated in Australia out in the Albert Barak. When in most of the people were ready was already aware of the situation. Yeah it was like yeah. Embarrassing for for their for their one Promoters so I think and and not because of 'em this break over but to me I think the mortgage should be promoted. Store Not Dornan. Nutcase have approach the problem in a much more sensitive much more logical Way Than than than for more one we've seen and we've read Got Lower Billet comments in the last few weeks And a thing that he shown he sent his you know his so he says I mean common things I mean I mean he says that it is impossible to think about trying to to to elaborate colleen Dr If you don't know when we're GONNA be able to travel to get into plane Where are you going to be able to go so To me it's really gross to talk about fifteen nineteen or twenty phrases at the moment. Maybe in a month's time will different but at the moment it doesn't competition for me. Yes yes difficult thing I. The thing is where we when we do go readiness at figuring out how to get everyone. There is 'cause you there's there's no way that when we start this year that we could just go back to normal. We couldn't go to different hotels and you know would everyone would have to be kept an eye on June. I mean everyone would have to be. Everyone would be neat to everyone. Went after have their movements tracked so they know or in case anyone gets sick. And you know you'd have to limit the number of media you'd have to limit the number of mechanics and things as as a as a lot more complicated than a case of just like you say just Organiz and ten racism going. Yeah that's that's that is so it's a whole a lot of things to be figured out before we get to that stage. Yeah yeah that's that way That that were I mean. I don't see that I mean Darnay trying to immunised. During that people are busy in much. I mean in in many different Things trying to do because you know they are only traveling three hundred people every grace and the by the can be like three thousand people so it would be better difficult to to at the moment is impossible to to figure out when and how many racist when are we going to start and hominy racist because the global situation doesn't allow you to do that so for me it's tend to talk about. It would have name Dean or they think a again for Moen chose that day are mainly worried about the business of spawn shores. Which is okay. It's understandable by. I'M NOT GONNA buy this distinct because I didn't the reality you know what I mean. Yeah agree and just failure. I mean I think we need to give some credit to dorm room because last week the knowns to financial aid package for the Grand Prix Paddock which Over the next three months. Total something like nine million euros. Yeah which as far as I haven't had of many others of whoa championships and more sport during the same thing or certainly have been public about this. This is a big and it cannot be stressed enough. The fact that Dorner isn't making any money right now because if there's no races they don't generate income this is a very very. I think it shows just how they managed selfless. Yeah short shorts. How SELFLESS COME LOUIS? You see on how much for them the all about gp not about the businesses. I mean they just does GP hr they take care of the of the people because they understand that without this people it's impossible to organize racists. So that's that's what they do of of course teams one more and need more but I mean contain that they're going to give nine million euro is not that bad. Yeah and they'll increase that by three million after we still haven't had any race in by July so the fat to already and four months time. They've guaranteed that amount of money is does it shows a lot. An- not positive. No it's nice end on a positive note for journeys rather truffaut teams allow positive. No I think we'll end it there my thanks to your e for your company And thanks to the listeners. As well if you'd like we had going. Listen to all of our other episodes on Google. Podcast apple podcasts. And spotify at all the podcasts destinations reads ultra sport notice for Dot Com. They might not ban erasing Baku Italian. We've been working as busy as ever purchasing content. So there's lots for you to read. We will be back next week to discuss more things Mosul. Gp But until then very long good bye and fees lookout.

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March 22: Ron Fellows joins the show

Raceline Radio

34:53 min | 8 months ago

March 22: Ron Fellows joins the show

"Radio our twenty th year on the air across Canada coast to coast in Canada across North America and around the globe on the worldwide web. This is race line on the race. Line Radio Network presented by Subaru and race line is driven by the Twenty Twenty Subaru. Wrx WRX STI the a typical sports cars by the Subaru. Vr's Ed the attainable sports car. That's fun to drive. And by general tire anywhere is possible. Present Advice Subaru candidate. We are your National Radio Motor Sport Authority the race. Line Radio Network. I'm Rick Thomas Host and Anchor Rain Postma. Our Supreme Commander Erase Line Master Control. Anthony Messina's still clicking network forest this week more on the huge effect on viruses. Having our sport we have the latest to get the C. T. M. P. CO owner promoter. Ron Fellows on the phone on how tracks deal with things like this. We also have new sound with Lynn boss Ross Brawn on their rescheduling attempts whilst the Subaru race. Line email bag trivia contest in the race rap news the corona virus still has the sports scrambling preventing and guessing. Sova race fans everywhere powerful sport. Powerful radio are twenty eighth year on the air across Canada. This is the race line radio network. I this is Paul Tracy. We're coming right back on race. Line Radio Eric. Thomas Rice wine on the line radio network with the latest news and opinion for ya on the race line race wrath virus owed. Reagan attempted containment absolutely still tops our news every sanctioned sport also taking steps to contain and stop the spread of this potentially lethal virus also known as Cova Nineteen by either canceling or postponing races started off with Formula One. And there's some good news here that McLaren team member who tested positive for the virus at the Australian Grand Prix. He's recovering well. No symptoms good. Mcclaren pulled out of Oz. When the guy tested positive the GP was cancelled the next day and the rest of the team quarantine for fourteen days. So now we sit and now we wait at one postponing Bahrain Vietnam China Holland. In Spain through may tenth most predict we will not see F. one back on track until maybe June recent radio guests Ross Brawn F wants director says the biggest impact on the championship is financial. It's a big money hit economics teams. I mean you know the team survive on their funding from racist. This will have an impact on the team's future. He'll have an impact on our economics company. Ross adds the task ahead is very simple. Get refired with some kind of a twenty twenty schedule. He knows the teams are up to it. And they will get through this crisis as a family resiliency. We've got plans to rebuild the season trying to accommodate as many of the loss races because I think people have to share some tolerance now in terms of how we build the season for the rest of the I think teams are in the right place to realize what's necessary big thanks to FM. That's Formula One management and they're media group for use of that sound is believed at one could use the August summer. Break to make up some of these. Gp's indycar there's a new testing ban that extends through may tenth because of this virus that takes Indianapolis five hundred open test. The private tested Barbara. The test on the road. Course and the big April test on the Richmond Oval off the books. The testing band extends beyond open and private testing manufacturer tests by the engine suppliers. Chevy in Honda along with straight line. Testing Wind. Tunnel have also been prohibited through may tenth and the Circuit of the Americas in Austin Texas closing their doors for now many employees are jobless and it is unclear whether operating status will be going forward. The virus threat has to ease off. I that is obvious. Coda runs F. One MotoGP bikes in indy cars. But it's all on hold for now. they're not the only racing facility of course face was shutdowns and potential shutdowns. Do some NASCAR with the same situation. Here really NASCAR postponing all racists who may third that's Miami Homestead Texas Bristol Richmond Tell Dig and Dover they plan to reactivate at Martinsville Virginia. May the ninth NASCAR still intends to stage all of their thirty six races. This season with future rescheduling to be determined as they closely monitor the situation they added what is important now. Transcend sports and our focus is on everyone's safety and wellbeing as we navigate this challenging time together. Pretty much says it all for all sanctions. Doesn't it the NASCAR PINCH series report brought to you by General Tire? Anywhere is possible. Our friends at team three red at hackensack racing adding up and coming stock car racer Connor James. Two TEAMS NASCAR series effort for three races. This season starting mid-may recent Canadian Motorsport Hall of fame. Inductee fellow inductee at Hopkinson sees this as a great opportunity for both the team and Connor. James Young Connor joins veteran Jason Hathaway. He's a solid driver to learn from for sure M. Sir guidelines from the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention and safety protocol have led. Insa to postpone all events through me third. The WEATHERTECH series is scheduled to run Canadian tire. Motorsport Park Toronto July. The fifth hoping things will have calmed down by then more later with C. N. P. Kohana Ron fellows. Not only that eighty eight twenty. Four hours of the law has been postponed from its traditional mid June running to the weekend of September the nineteenth management saying the safety and quality of your events will not be compromised also to the debut of the ACO and the world endurance championships new hybrid. Car Prototype formula set for silverstone. England will also be delayed. It's all on hold folks. The rally news is a presentation of the Subaru. Wrx In wrx sti creating those monster sales still no word what's going on with the World Rally Championships next round late. April and Argentina. The Canadian Championship presented by Subaru was idle. Until may we wait and see? Meanwhile the American Rally Association postponing the Olympus Rally April Twenty Fifth and twenty. Six in Washington State Subaru motorsports USA announcing at the same time a revamp driver lineup. For the twenty twenty season highlighted by the fulltime return of American Rally Icon Action Sports Stars Stuntman Travis. Pastrana five time. National Rally champion Subaru and one of the world's best known Action Sports Athletes Pastrana will look to capture his sixth. Us title in his first full season since two thousand seventeen is going to be joined by Canadian driver and Free Ride Mountain Bike Legend Brendan Seminar of Whistler BC. Sports net nine sixty who moves to Subaru Motor Sports? Usa Exit Subaru Rally Team Canada for his first full season of us. Rally competition both gentlemen former race. Line radio guests some drag racing the NHRA got a portion of their internationals in Gainesville Florida. But now suspended all drag racing for thirty days in response to the corona virus pandemic. They WANNA resume their original schedule on April seventeenth to the nineteenth and do that in Houston the NHRA will continue to monitor the situation to establish a firm returned to drag racing action faces in the pit scores of tracking series motors across the network canceling or postponing start. Although it's still a little early some tracks have car shows at local shopping mall scheduled right now to promote so. Let me offer this to all promoters and operators along the race line radio network to help you out if you have any scheduling or event changes due to this cove in nineteen or corona virus issue. Send me a note Eric at race. Line radio DOT CA. That's Eric at race. Line radio DOT CA facebook instagram race. Line Radio Network or via twitter at et race. Line and I will get it on the air for you right here. How's that okay? Get a hold of me if you have any scheduling changes and we'll stick it on the year for you despite. The unknown was postponed races with Kobe. Nineteen outbreak NASCAR is still going to push forward with their next gen race car The health threat has already postponed one test of the N. G. Car supposed to get on track early next month at Bristol and then in early May at Dover however both of those race dates have been postponed. So who knows what's going to happen with this whole thing. We'll have more on this next week on race. Line RADIO WITH NASCAR President Steve Phelps. And that's it for this week on the race. Wrap your questions opinions and comments on headlines on the news or always welcomed. Let's hear from. Y'All share your thoughts and theories and ideas with your gear heads across Canada could win you the Grand Prize in the Subaru race. Lonnie mailbag Trivia contest. Okay Lorraine a pit. Stop here please. Up ahead part. One of our Kovic. Nineteen conversation with Ron fellows. This is race line presented by Subaru. Arrange performance drive this week at your local Subaru dealer anyone along the race line radio network. This is Ross Brawn on. You're listening to race line. Radio Canada's National Radio Motor Authority of the race line radio network. Did the entire racing community on the whole of the Komo virus or covert nineteen global health threat that includes hundreds of race facilities and sanctions across the race. Line Radio Network date wise a little early for track openings. But the smart promoters operators are keeping a very close eye on this crisis should at last as long as some are predicting watching closely our friends and partners as well at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park Toronto with their May Victoria Day. Speed fest looming also knowing they also host himself and NASCAR trucks later on in the summer so let's reconnect with good friend and fellow Canadian Motorsport Hall of Famer Ron Fellows for his. Take on the health scare on race. Line radio run. These are historic times In Our in our sport while think about it I mean. I don't think we've ever had in in the link time that we've been around the sport and involved in the sport have anything like this Corona virus thing affect US Like this has and It's A shocker. For everybody but the safety of everyone certainly takes precedent over everything else doesn't yes indeed his historic times for the world as we know it very very scary stuff you know. It appears to be no generally not Not Super Life threatening but You know in pandemic nonetheless. Yeah and you know. You can sympathize. Can You? Because you know we're going to ask you to put on your promoters had and and track co owner had and talk a little bit about you know the business ramifications of this whole thing but I I think in looking. Let's look at the Formula. One situation that we can run. You certainly can sympathize that when you have to ship all the equipment to the other side of the world it's enormously expensive and you know you want to you. Want to get that thing off the ground and you wait until the eleventh hour you can. Certainly you know. There's been criticism that they waited too long blah blah blah blah blah. But when. You're looking at the logistics like F. One does when you've got to think about shipping that stuff around the world and trying to make that up. You want to examine every possible possibility that you get that thing off the ground and I think we need to keep that in mind even though we don't like the idea that it's postponed or cancelled or whatever it is that you know from a business standpoint. You WanNa do all. You can up to the eleventh hour to get that thing off the ground right. Well it's it's a you know with this. With this virus. It was literally changing in continues to change by the hour. Absolutely no the the the information that Everyone you know what I'm I'm thinking about leading up to You know in at least in North America leading up to Alanna NASCAR and Saint Pete Indycar for example. You know the information you had. Wednesday was very different than the information. You had Thursday which was then again very different which you had Thursday afternoon It's IT'S A it's A. It's a tough tough situation and You know for for all business. Never Mind Sports. You know in in in difficult times you know people are looking for for you know. Entertainment outlets and obviously auto racing one of them but You know this is. It's it's tough for everybody. You know the the The you know essentially the our our lifestyles that were that we've become accustomed to are are put on hold until until we can get to you. Know the our our health care can get a handle on on you. Know what Get a get a handle on this virus and in the spread and sort of containing And you know so you follow you know as as a you know personally and in in also on the on the ownership side of a couple of businesses. Yeah you've got to literally have to put a we're in the protocols change on a daily basis. Yeah exactly beer people and and you know we have to with Canadian tire. Motorsport Park We. We've got to look at You know what what are the? What are the options going forward given Given what we know. And it's it's so difficult to predict you know what you look at the Indianapolis Motor speedway. Put a statement this morning. Basically for now There the road the road race on the ninth and five hundred on the twenty fourth still on the calendar for the month of May currently for him But you know it literally can change so quickly And and that's all we can do is stay tuned to the news. You know our our our local respective businesses. Both for the Canadian Tire Motorsport Park and Spring Mountain with my correct school. Stay in tune with with the local local and and national health officials and and follow the guidelines. And and. That's that's all you can do is is try to be responsible and follow Follow the guidelines and hopefully we you know we can get through this quicker than we think and I think you know that's We will get through. This is just it is incredible. it's like a Science fiction movie nightmare. You can't wake up from. Almost there is part one with Canadian tire. Motorsport Park owner and promoter. Canadian legend Ron fellows dealing with this corona virus threat. Part two with we run as we call them coming up in our second guest segment okay. Lorraine another pitstop goes right about here but straight ahead the Subaru Race Lonnie mailbag trivia contests. This is the race line radio network. This travelers was Strana. You're listening to race line. Radio Canada's National Radio Motor Sport Authority of the Race Line Radio Network. Howdy I'm Eric. Thomas have a look at my Thomas Tales Collins. 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So here we go once again with the Subaru race on email trivia contest. It's another grand prize pack to win if you qualify by answering the Subaru Trivia questions correctly in your email comments. If you do that the entry goes into the brake drums. We call it with a winner drawn at random at the end of the untracked racing season. The new qualifying question currently being looked at pondered. What makes the Subaru? Vr'S ED technically unique among other Subaru models? I'll repeat the question. What makes the Subaru? Vr's technically unique among other Subaru models. Okay US Eric at race line radio DOT CA to connect to the Trivia contest to win the prize. Pack that's Eric at race. Line radio DOT CA facebook instagram. Get a hold of US their race. Line Radio Network. The address and twitter. It's the symbol at et race line. Okay so let's now go to the mail bag and see where we are in terms of our male. Oh Sharpie David. Sharp who listens Faithfully Sunday nights. Eight o'clock on Global News Radio Nine Hundred C H Allen Hamilton. Our Coal Flagship Station Eric. There's a guy on twitter. I've seen the guy and you may have seen him to who is searching for a video of Earl Ross's only Nascar win in nineteen seventy four. It was called Grand National at Martinsville Virginia. Up to this point still the only Canadian to win a NASCAR RACE. At that level. He added a while ago. This the guy on twitter who had the video gave it to a friend who was supposed to copy it and hasn't seen it since and now he's exhausted his searches to find it again. You wouldn't happen to know where we could look to you. It's pretty cool to see his photo of earls grandfather clock that he won sitting in his daughter's house still the best trophy in motorsports for those that don't know when you win at Martinsville you'll get a grandfather clock. Thank you eric. Hope you're quarantined and doing well despite my suspicions that this whole virus thing You know well. We all have our suspicions as well but it's genuine and we're all taking precautions here. Sharpie incredible time. We're living in. Isn't it while you've got that right to off to work? I go with the two thousand workers to have our ten hour isolation altogether and he laughs out loud in that. Yeah you know what that. That's that's a nice note and everybody knows about it will Ross and winning that race at Martinsville. If you have a video copy of that or you know someone who does? Would you get a hold of Me Eric? Race Line Radio DOT CA. Okay let me know where it is and we'll try and track it down to see. We can't scare this thing up and and Heavens to betsy if we do. We're able to find that you know I think we we can You know put that thing up on on facebook and social media for all to see because I can. I've never seen the video of it and another is probably a lot of people out there listening to this right now. We're seeing you know what I haven't seen it either. Wouldn't it be cool if we could? If anyone has a video copy even a portion of it okay no matter how was recorded. I don't know if we're going like the super eight movies. Whatever it is or any kind of video on the Earl Ross Nineteen seventy-four Nascar would've been grand national win at at that time. Please get a hold of us and get a hold of me if you want. Eric Radio DOT CA Facebook instagram race. Line Radio Network and on twitter at et race line. If you've got some video rural Ross's win at Martinsville. Seventy four let me know will track that thing down and see. We can't Get that thing At least found located and if we can get a posted up on On Social Media in the meantime everything is on hold. Nothing has really changed. Their Ron fellows was just on with us. Now we're going to have some more with ron coming up in our our second guest segment here. How tracks are dealing with this corona virus situation. Man Everything is on hold and not exactly sure when we're going to get L. resumed. So if you want to enter the contest to win the prize Eric Race on Radio Dot. Ca The new trivia question. What makes a Subaru? Technically unique among other Subaru models. Let's work in another stop right here. Lorraine than part two of the corona virus situation with Ron fellows. This race line presented by Subaru for the ultimate performance handling test drive ers exports poop. Do it this week. Anyone along the race line radio network. This is Simon Vaginal. And you're listening to raise line radio a Canada's national radio motorsport up already by. Gosh are twenty eighth consecutive season on the air across Canada. We are the race line radio network simply great to have you along for the ride. This week. Racing has been pause as we all know now with the corona virus covert nineteen global health threat and that includes track and sanctions right across the entire network. Keeping a very close eye honored our good friends and partners at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park Toronto. Were there not too far away. May Victoria Day speed fest. Also knowing they also host INSA and NASCAR trucks later in the season. So here's part two with our good friend and fellow Canadian Motorsport Hall of Famer Ron Fellows on Race Line Radio Ron when you strike schedule at the beginning of the year for C. TMP. It's not really in the back of your mind that you're going to have to double clutch and make changes there. But you know it's it such a back a little bit and makes you think you know. Wow it's IT'S A. It's a mental jarring process to think that while we've got events on his schedule you're counting on that revenue. The Fanta fans are counting on that event being they're they're counting on ongoing and then suddenly they that might change but bats as a promoter in co owner. Something that you sort of have to keep in the back of your mind when it does happen like it has now and again we we were. Were little we talk every day? You know we've made made adjustments in our Or looking at adjustments in in in our staff. works As as every businesses you know trying to to make sure you're maintaining the you know the hygiene and social distancing yes We do have the luxury being in Being seasonal we do have You know a month before we actually officially open so we we do have. We do have a little bit of time but yeah the contingencies are. Okay what we do. That's literally what we're working on. Now is okay what we do. We have to postpone the opening. What happens if we have to postpone The Catholic today speed fast weekend These are all questions that we need to have Solutions for but we don't really know what the solutions are. Because because this is fluid evolving and moving so quickly just like everybody else or are going day today. Yeah exactly and you've got that luxury there to now. The rumors are flying again. Because of this situation that you know the the indycar race in downtown. Toronto IN JULY. And there's a lot of time between then and now About you know. Maybe if the city decides that they're not going to have large gatherings could this thing be run at C. T. MP? There's not the first time you and I have talked about this possibility. But I don't even know if you've even had discussions with Indycar I don't think you have. Where where does that stand Ron? I mean What have you had any contact from that series at all about maybe running if they have to would see? Tmp Yeah no we have not. I suspect they're they're no different than us. They're literally following following the news Indycar for example has had to cancel right through to the individual based on Based on different No you get. The State of Florida made a decision on the mass mass gatherings and and the city of Long Beach did the same that it's changing rapidly and INDYCAR NASCAR. You've got limited days and ask. Are there already run into November Randall? You know how much. How much flexibility do you have when we get restarted? It's a tough. It's a tough situation but at and again it you know once we see that there are some weight and I think you'll think you'll once again see things change rapidly in terms of being able to plan really literally everything is on hold. That's right so we we ride through this exactly now. I WANT TO CHANGE GEARS. And as you say it's a fluid situation we're all we're all in the same boat. We're all going to have to wait. And see how this this evens out or irons odor and you say we'll get around it but You know in the meantime it's all on hold but I WANNA I wanNA change to something. That's a little little bit better news You have always mentioned in interviews with me on this program. Mr Fellows that the itch to get behind the wheel of a racecar never ever totally goes away. And you filed entries and the vintage race of Champions Charity pro-am at Road Atlanta coming up on the Twenty ninth of March if if indeed with this situation and it goes ahead but tell us all that that came around and and you've got to be if it goes that And who knows that? You're looking forward to getting back in doing some competition. It is only vintage but you know how serious those guys can get but You know you gotta be looking at you know what I mean. It started out as a few years. Ago Tony Parrella. Who's who is President CEO OF SP are a in the Trans am series as well terrific guy. They had AH essentially a charity. Pro-am at At Indy yes is on the road. Course was no pudding It started as indycar drivers teaming up with Owners of vintage Transam cars essentially. We're talking sixty seventies era in a fifty minute race where the owner started in the and the the old pro finished And I and I did the first one a couple of years ago and they they expanded. They invited Myself and Bill Elliott Help fill up the field. And I Dave Roberts who's Retired CEO of Carlisle. Industries is a friend and he's got some some vintage transam car. So the we. We have on occasion. Run A a Sixty nine Gregor Camaro and Dave has built a building. I haven't haven't Haven't seen it yet. But the building a production corvettes of something bigger more powerful and and to keep up with the Joneses so to speak so tony. What Tony's done is is is with the popularity of it. He's added races and then has started Essentially started series and he's added An online broadcast do it So yes it's cool so this year's For Racists we've got road Alanna Unfortunately it has been cancelled. All it has a And then it's Indy VR and Kota is It's expanded the four for racist. You know sort of one every couple of months so it's a lot of fun we we've done. We've done a done a few in the past. It's now you know Tony's trying to build it into given given its popularity Grow into a series and and From just a single event to a couple and now For not sure if he'll you know we'll again we'll see where what happens You know with with with four race series. It's possible that you can still make it. Make It for if if and when we get back to some of normalcy But it It's a lot of fun I enjoy. The you know there's Y- Former INDYCAR DRIVERS NASCAR drivers Gird drivers and Yeah to Don Don Fun to reconnect with with some of them Has Been Fun. The right. Now the the No Peter Clue who? Uh for sure motorcars. He's got a he's got an awesome vet and he and eleanor. Junior have done very very well. Teamed up together in the past Bill Elliott and Reverend Him. You can imagine that dynamic look out there so um right yeah. Yeah they have a they have a seventy Mustang. That probably enough sure sounds like a cup car. Gee there's a surprise but now the the the formats pretty pretty straightforward Their Fifty Minute Race. Forty five. Fifty minute races and the the amateur does the can do the first Essentially ten laps and then and then you've got Pitstop and I think the pissed up is pretty leisurely like three minutes. Which is about what we need. It used to be my. My days was corvette racing. You barely had thirty seconds. Do driver changing. We have three minutes and we need to all of it. Getting guys in and out of those cars two minutes been canceled and everything else but you know it sounds like an awful lot of fun and you've always as a seed it's to get back into a race car in some capacity so we'll keep our eyes on that as well ron where plummet a time but as we say We'll check back in with you from time to time as we all work through this corona virus health threat. But as you say that's the key thing is that look after each other. Use some common sense and we'll get back on the race track sooner than later. Thank you so much for the time. Thanks so there we are. That's how Ron fellows and the crew Canadian Tire Motorsport Park are handling this corona virus scare we will keep a very close eye on developments right along with them all right. Lorraine let's lineup. That final stop will return for the last laugh for next week's show guests and more this race line presented by Subaru powered heart pounding. Wrx Sti now fifteen times. Get Indian Rally manufaturers champion on the race? Line Radio Network Aspirin leg and you're listening to race line Radio Eric. Thomas and rice wine across Canada and the race line radio network. White flag is up. There is a lot to go. It means so. Here's Gobert finding for you for next week. We'll have the latest on the impact of Corona virus situation on our sport. All on hold now and for weeks to come will run a two part teleconference with NASCAR President Steve Phelps Nasr the only sanctioned at this point who is vowing they can reschedule and run all their races this season eventually. We hope plus the Subaru Race. Line e mail bag trivia contest but when checkers fly we say goodbye. Hugh norms race line. Thanks going out to Ron fellows. Ross Brawn and Formula One management media big. Thanks of course to Supreme Commander Rain Postmark will or Skin Jerry. Liuyang and Anthony Messina for operational and production. Excellence overall race line radio. I'm Eric Thomas. So long everyone race line coast to coast to the baseline radio. Network presented by Subaru has been driven by the Subaru. Wrx W. R. Access Ti. And you can learn more at Subaru dot ca and by general tire anywhere is possible. John Gel again next week right here on race line radio.

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The Greatest F1 Team - Technical Director

The Autosport Podcast

23:44 min | 6 months ago

The Greatest F1 Team - Technical Director

"The Greatest F One team. Hello and welcome to pop full of a very special settled part series where we asked the question. What would the lineup of the greatest ever f? One team look like from race engineering team. Principal me driver to chief designer and even the readily coveted number to drive spot. We've set out to build an F. One team made up of the best. There has ever been our in house pile of medieval across Uttar Sport. Motorsport DOT COM. Angie racing have all picked individuals throughout history that they believe are the greatest of all time and in this series we'll be discussing the Grizz and the worthiness of the individuals that have made it into the top three each job role and once again. I'm joined by our engineering and design experts. Ben Anderson Georgiev and Jake folks. Relax thanks very much for joining me again guys so you already helped his GAL chief designer in place. But but jake what are we saying is different about what a technical director does versus a chief designer achieved designer is the person who did it taste Zion car? The technical director is I think Pat Simmons described it as the conductor of an orchestra. You have to be able to understand everything within the team. Everything on the car you coordinate. The bill would in the design of the car you have to with supplies and partners and essentially bringing everything together. You have to be the person at that point man. Ersan he brings cost gathering makes concept on a computer into into reality into the the Cobb hits the track and then once it's there you have to coordinate the development that car as well so it's a hugely involved absolutely an under the past and that we're going to speak about fussed and who is dead on our list in that position is probably he. I mean he's very much synonymous with the team that he covered me still works full and I think it's safe to say is is probably the father of this role Not Is of course Patrick head chief designer impart Arina of Williams who then moved into the role of technical director in the nineteen eighties which obviously alongside Frank. Williams saw massive success in the eighties and nineties helping oversee the team rise to third on the all-time Winston F one and second in terms of titles. Again we're talking about men with some incredible. Cv's not your believer. That party put me is really the number. One is technical director first of all. Because I'm a little bit older than the young guys here together with me and he was the teacher of all one technical director and chief designer because even the Rossborough him I I knew we pedalo neil out late franny. Everybody they stopped. We deem nearly all the chief designer neo the technical director in Formula One day. Start with him and he was not only a wonderful engineer. But it was demand able to coordinate the other people must be also very strong in understanding the roles of the people and I remember very often one-sentence that he said many times to me. He said Georgia if we have a group of people one of this group of people was to do under twenty percent because he believed to be a genius. He believed to be better than everybody. As either destroy the group everybody has to work. Eighty maximum nineteen percent and then the totem of all the work of every people or anything in a good way makes a hundred percent. Make the success so for me. Patrick was the man that created all the stander of one engineer. Yet that now we appreciate the nothing to take away from Ross brawn because again the Ross. He's putting doing this. Rossi's very able to put the right people in the right place and to coordinate and again this is the again the the best technical director but for me is the product. Yeah broadly agree that he's definitely that gold father of ten directors and he's kind of a pioneer in the row an MRI did a as a is on himself at does Williams and really transform that team from radio a customer call shambles into a genuine While championship team And then worked Psych Lazy Adrian. Newey with three likes jewelry success period in the nineties Williams but the thing that may be against Patrick in terms of the ranking is. Perhaps what came off to that was always? Sam Vicious to progress. When it's be a technical drector in Ri- Williams and Patrick? Hey could have found a way to get out of new each way. And maybe that successive carry through into the thousands. I Williams declined really after the ten of millennium they had BMW BMW. Engine deal Probably the best engineering phone one of that time. When Patrick it makes the calls to swear to scratch they didn't match the potential of the in just wonder if they could have found a way to keep that hate nearly. Punish going a bit longer with a actually. We have seen a different story for Williams and even more success than the name managed every we got very used to Williams being successful in the eighties and nineties. But looking back now is it. Is it all the more remarkable that it was that dominant at times? What Patrick Head had as technical director was She could understanding of everything that foreign one call needed. And I think the as well I think is particularly salient example that Obviously likes this. Was THE TEAM. Piney from the facts. But it couldn't really grasp that understanding because Colin Chapman kept wanting to account invent that well-spent Patrick heads led the Williams team. Say A cave goes ready to get idea. How do we extract? The maximum amounts out inside. Williams is hugely competitive Starts the eighties. Nick continued at three of the eighties as well. When you know. The technical landscape is changing. Went through TAB engines Williams go deal with Honda for example Obviously that's fell away when Williams weighed year in nineteen eighty-eight with the judd engines but Williams then picked up again. They have the foresight to pick the Reynaud engine and Patrick had again. Go the right. People on board did will his remix technical draft laws which was again conduct orchestra. You had patty live on the active suspension you have Adrian newey designing these very complex. Intricate Dynamics news able to conduct site. Well as Ben said it was a shame that he wasn't able to keep the band together because I think if they had passed ninety seven. That could really go onto some amazing things. You think. I think they're very valid points in kind of links to who we have in in second place and it's it's probably a good job that he's in second place because he's already part of our team is chief design sire. He would have had a lot of work to do if he had to do. Both roles that is of course Adrian new way. And as as you've said we can link the Williams success to to not to and and as as we've we've pointed out that may be new ambition that that kind of broke the band the band up but why do we. Why do we think maybe that knew? He was voted as mostly to the chief designer role than the Patrick had. Even if having had the conversation we don't agree with the with the ranking of the maybe it's a function of Boy was talking about full in tentative his ambition. He's no alone in history formulas a designer organic drink to kind of clashed with the management teams. He's worked with a successful at Williams said he wanted to. He wanted to really tight touching his job and couldn't do that then. United by on he. He got his to that. It doesn't take long before he fools brandon like a very difficult thing to do and he's not alone in that cam and he's really only rent boy that he's found his property now a proper balance between what he wants to do how he wants to work and working in harmony with other people around him in the senior leadership teams and his attendant. Who Director Ways to see what you want. Go Get your own way as the mentioned about conducting the orchestrates about being team. Play a cement recognizing the strengths and weaknesses of About how you deal with your higher ups to get what you need you'll team below you. An Think span of news created. He's always had necessary. The traits that best suit that row. He's better when he's looking at the car and working out how to make the call better and foster. Is there an easy way for us to separate newest successes as a designer and as a technical director think so? I think what you can look out. I think is McLaren. Who was much more primarily focused as a technical director especially in the latter half of his time there obviously as I mentioned in the chief designers section bossy competitive at the start he was pencilling. These fantastic designs in getting around the regulations. His role became more technical direct to influence as Ben said. He did clash a lot. More and this time in I think between a two thousand and one in two thousand five for example it was a lot of internal struggling The Mercedes engines time went to clean reliable. A that was the disaster of the people. Eighteen in two thousand three which never made it in a race because the call was so it was unreliable. The dynamics a Sank drivers crushing it It wasn't a particularly successful periods in in teams in the team's life and I remember speaking to Patty about this actually and he was angling for the technical director job the time and he's looking back on it. He said the problem with Adrian was that he wasn't focused enough on the reliability side of the car in the walls. This fantastic design but as a chief design. It was his way or the highway. Any wanted to didn't WANNA compromise on having leanest meanest car that was a cooling requirement for Kospi reliable so I think that of vested interests clashed Elizabeth near. He's GonNa have to settle for just being chief designer and he's going to have to answer to Ross brawn with plenty of experience in f one Williams Hustler and errors before becoming technical director of Benenson in ninety one. And they're obviously he won races and championships with Michael Schumacher but he cemented his reputation. Really didn't hey. When he moved to Ferrari and again it was that point of different scenario that influence that helped turn the team into the dominant full. That was the she mce. Ferrari Ferrari era But not just with Ferrari right say Hondo was on the right path before pulling out any proved it with his team when he kept alive and won the title in two thousand and nine now a lot of people would go into remember Bruin Full Burundi. Pay and two thousand nine. But what FA. What for you guys. Lebron's crowning moments two thousands in Ferrari's net extraordinary. She mce that triumvirate. We talked about in a previous segment. Brought on the pit bull devising a strategy to help she could be hacking into another grown premium. That to me is the period where he stops in. South is one of the leading lines in Formula One. Yes I do agree. That the best moment of Rafeh when he was able to manage his group and together with Schumer. He made the pariah waiting because so such a long time. This was wonderful. Decent was all is ability to coordinate. The people to be able to even make the Italian part of variety audio engineer working together with a group that he took from Bennett. This very wound up. Who Work and then is also not only wonderful engineer? No Tony is wonderful. Men In being able to coordinate the people but he's also very trust for for for example. Two thousand nine Karn was only the success of the bureau was only about the double diffuser and I do believe that the only Ross brawn could convenience and everybody that solution was league because he was a wonderful if you want kind of lawyer kind of diplomatic and he was able to to convince everybody and one example of visa way of being trusted by everybody was at the Grand Prix when body. Callo did want to win the race by. He was very good very import of overgrown. Gp SUTTON TO WIN. And that time radio conversation with very possible and it was enough for from wrong from your offset to take a the allegation and say to Rubens. Kinder Rubens eat. Ross nothing as screw eighth. Ross robens immediately. Slow down let Jenson Button to win the race. And this is fantastic. This impression out trust are powerful. Was this if this man so it was the pre cast voucher Jacobs which is obviously now famous For All the wrong reasons. Unfortunately but now I think I think there's no denying that he encompasses Very very strong leadership skills which everyone seems to to trust. Follow the Many embroidery we trust means that I've seen across the across the Internet. But Jake what is it? What is it that makes him so special? A think they're two examples. I think number one in Benetton. He was surrounded by a hugely strong pass. Nazis you had sloppy Briatore. We know how from boy he is yet. So so such a huge personality You had tomo control as well. You had rory barons design side. You had all of these different players who have such strong penalties. Ross Perot was able to bring the together and get into work into all my sister. Unlikely Group of People Angling for title. I think the K. example is when he started at Ferrari in late nineteen ninety-six. The team was nine full. is Hugely political lost years has been indicated by a lot of political wrangling within the team and Ross Brawn. This of will crown Trainings Occa- wanting to today the first thing that he did on joining Ferrari was he stopped all the engineers and all the people were the team from reading like Zaza Della spot. Because all they saw every day was Ferrari this Ferrari. That far is rubbish. That kind of thing I think is negative. I want everybody to stop focusing on what everybody else thinks. And stop focusing on what we need to do as a team and attended Ferrari around from being this team. That was characterized by plates. Go wrangling into a team. That was dominant in the yet. Led thousands. Yeah it's just not full of will force character the quiet yet firm demeanor that Ross brawn that rostrum has said so yet. He was a fantastic manager. Knew we need to do to get team working Yet so it's no surprise? He's number one on this list. His assistant sustained on a success in a kind of magic top trae regardless as well we talked about Benetton Threes Ferrari Avenue He moved into this team. Principal Role Often Ferrari taking on Honda. He was able to be night. Have the foresight to see the two thousand eight. Two thousand nine regulations have succeeded. Two thousand nine regulations coming to set humdrum ready for what would have been a championship round for them. They pulled out to still pull the rabbit out the hat running. He's outing teams EP. Which oversee most intimacies grown pre and we seen incredible success that teams gum to post him stepping down but he ready printing plates lot of the strength to that team then carried on to glory pointing Bell who am James Allison raises the best ten to he's worked on the massive influence from broad. He's kind of tight in his knee. MIDAS touch wherever he goes. Is there any way for us to break down? What that MIDAS touch was in two thousand nine? What how where did that come from is there are no Georgia? Likes to say it was just the double the fees. There's so many things on that. That car I can see disagrees so much right now but Many of the things I think the assure that what but Williams had one toy hot one night can get to sing but Berlin was able to but it also had So platelets from if you like They will in the first teams to cost them the with the new wider front wings out wash with King I think it was McLaren on turned up the first test with in washing front wings. Trying to bring In Woods Three the ties through the car around the ties and Stupid although they didn't have the money in the capsule to keep developing my car it was fundamentally strong. It kind of had been no fact as well because when. Mercedes team was quite lights on in two thousand nine. They haven't had the money to develop fat car and so that was a top four. Took teams It wasn't on Kwame. Same Level it was. It was a mix of different things and the fact that they had to shoehorn engine so late in the day until that car and it still works at still on the title is the Miracles Beyond. I think will definitely go down in history as as one of the best Show wonders that there probably is ever going to be in Formula One. I can't think of of many that can compete on. That scale. Ball may be individual drivers and racist. But it's definitely something that that impacted me as as as fodder watching it was. It was definitely something that was that was incredible to watch unfold and indirect story in some ways. And as you've said is now led into the success of the of the Mercedes team and he's then gone on from there to become Formula One's managing director of Multiple Sports. So again in that very much ED leadership in Guardian Role of of the sports am which I mean what you think but I think that's it. That's a great role for him and I'm always looking forward to seeing how he's going to to help form and change the sport EDYTA. If you guys agree with me that what do you think needs to sign the esteem? That Ross's held in by his peers when he decided to take that role with former one And it was offered to him to take up that road and then try and transform for the ones that Fool Geneva Direction Radically change the style of because a full of the racing. You didn't have people we divided opinions. You didn't have anyone coming out guy move. I said a bad decision. Why they wanted Bros do that. Pretty much everyone to a man. The saying this is a great move as you mentioned Jesse in. Ross we trust puppeteer especially what you said about the rougher but again I do believe Arousa Maybe write these the best the technical director of course Patrick and his father of everybody by the if we have to make a one person maybe is three correct. I totally agree with you. And Ross. Is the number one. Well following on from message from Stefan winning sporting director. Today's winner has also said as a video message. So welcome to the PODCAST. The winner of technical director and overall legend Mr Ross brawn welcome sold race fines. Advice spoke on come. I said I just want to thank everyone for this tremendous accolades for technical director. Something that is means a lot to me very special. I think in these difficult times. We're facing the moment. It's great to remember the fantastic times. We've had him for more and day the fantastic times we're going to have in the future and it gives inspiration to fight away through these difficult times and full all is a great place. Six months ago is going to be a great place in another six months. This is really boosted me and say very special gregory able. You voted for so far Sunday. A team I would have been honored to work with. I look forward to seeing who the rest of the pieces of the Jigsaw. The thanks once again. Stay safe say will remember forward to see you. Thanks thank you for sending us that message. I would say that the design side of our F. One team is looking pretty strong next up. It's time to appoint a driver but before we get into A superstar champion in the McCain will looking for perfect wingmen so make sure you join us for that. Thanks so much guys for being on the panel today and diving into the technical side of team and make sure you join us for the next episode. Where say will confer wingman thanks much?

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We Wont Rush F1 Fans Back To Circuits: Ross Brawn Interview

The Autosport Podcast

22:12 min | 5 months ago

We Wont Rush F1 Fans Back To Circuits: Ross Brawn Interview

"Hello welcomes the PUCK podcast. You Heist them. On the show today we're bringing you an exclusive conversation for me. One sporting boss Ross brawn ladies interview in off thinking forward series. Sports Network President James. Allen spoke to Ross the plans of funding. They get a form racing in twenty twenty are the FAA conference. They discussed the challenges of organizing the new plan I eight races of the two thousand twenty season, the rise in sports, and it's important during lockdown. Various complications that still surround filling in the remaining gaps on the Formula One conduct, Bruce Voices, his hope that is new spirit of collaboration between the FAA Formula One and the teams as a result of the coronavirus crisis spoke about the new series of changes. Aminu the new budget will continue into the future. We hope you enjoyed this episode. Just give us an idea of the scale of the challenge that you were faced with to get from one restarted pretty massive challenge and A huge logistical exercise and I think the thing we've. It's obvious, but we've discovered as it changes every day. the situation around the world is changing every day. Situation with this virus and pandemic is every day. And the understanding of it always changing every day, so we going to be very. Nimble with a group that are working on it to adjust our approach as we go along. the thing we have to really take into account is where. an unusual sport in how? International we are and we have to ensure that for more on sets a good standard, the highest standard as we traveled around the world we can't. We can't just drop into lowest common denominator of where we are some countries, overseeing better place and others. we have to have the highest standards. So we. WERE WELCOME WHEREVER WE? That's been one of the key objectives. What are the key building blocks to successfully putting the new candidate's together? Say it's different. The situation is different. Throughout the world and I think the fact that we were prepared to accept. Close races and the early season gave his more opportunity. That's not the ideal. The ideal for any schools. Because the the fans is such a crucial part of it, but. we felt the going racing and the raw costing racing and engaging the fans racing in what ways they could was still. Much more desirable doing nothing so approaching close fatness events gave us the bulk of the European season a close. We can adjust that as we progress and. We come to understand. Where we are with this pandemic, so I first half of the season European base was still pretty food on the second half. I think we're confident. We're GONNA. Finish in Bahrain and Abu, Dhabi. It was filling in the space between. So obviously, our audience today is primarily made up of the national sporting federations. ASEAN's around the world. What some of the learnings that you can share from from the top of the payment if you like with our national sporting authorities well I, think motor racing the nature of motor racing and. Racing goal the world, and if I think back to what the objectives teams are. The meticulous approach, the to both logistics and engineering and procedures and protocol is what we've transferred into our approach to dealing with this challenge. And working very closely with if I. We've come up with the protocols and codes of practice that we need to apply so I think it suits. culture suits philosophy of. Through every scenario. Plan B. Plan C. When you see. Racing anything teams done a fantastic strategy that strategy is. Tied on the pit wall is what type back factory days or even weeks before, and that's what we have to do. We have to look at every scenario. And developed all our ideas beforehand. And we will. We will live and learn h, Ray, a NASA nature for modest, very military like this birch, safety and medical accidents have always been right at the happened well particularly for the last twenty thirty years of Formula One. How important was that? When telling the story to sort of health ministries of governments around the world about to give you the confidence that gives them the confidence to to let you put on races in that country's. Absolutely crucial and I think this is where the FIFA been. Instrumental whether the F. I. Medical Experts Medical Group. We've been out put together a credible and high-quality approach on on that side of things. I think if foam long on loan. At been doing it then, it wouldn't have had the seriousness of cute also of. The medical group doing it and I. think that's been a vital pot on the code of practice has been developed will be all racing. There's a specific. additional code that we're going to apply to Australia because of the circumstances and. Former. The code of practice has been. Developed is something which will be. Usable by Oli I championships and I think those That is that protocol would develop as we go along. I've always seen some adjustments to it because of the greater understanding and the changes in the. Situations and As I say our coach has to be at the highest standard of wherever we we can't just. Go to a country and say well. This country is a bit more relaxed, so we can relax. that. But that that's been vital to take. The authorities show the seriousness. And Quality of the approach? Ashwani F I ain't GonNa take. Well like Oh sports and obviously will be hearing from Christian from the Bundesliga in a moment. You're having to start as you mentioned behind closed doors. But how realistic do you think the prospect? Of actually getting some spectators in to witness some formula, one motor racing before the end of the twenty twenty championship. Weren't rush that I think some of the later. European races are optimistic but I think we prefer not to plan on that. I think it's where we go to flowery races that we can stop. That we will have fans, but even that's not absolutely guaranteed. I, think the have the race in safe and secure. Environment is is critical, and we say we're going round the world. We have a problem in one country that stops his going to other countries, so we'll progress slowly on that front. The fans for as a critical. And there's a lot of. Atmosphere and Ambience created by the fans who probably not quite as strong as it is in football. We'll talk about later, but when you go to football stadium and it's very intense. Some races can be like that a Lotta racist so so it's perhaps not quite critical for us The having the funds at the race, but we do want to see them because they do a lot of atmosphere. Don't get me wrong. But I think we'll tell you that very gradually, and and we certainly we don't want to jump in and jump out again when the problems. Obviously given the circumstances I'd I'd expect you're going to have a lot of goodwill on your side from from everybody involved in the community, but the fans as well that gives you an opportunity with the exceptional circumstances I guess to try a few different things that maybe you have wanted to have a look at in terms of formats and that kind of thing. Obviously I'm sure keeping away from Gimmicks, because this is Formula One, but we seen some discussion about reverse grid races, and that sort of thing, so what kind of traction are you getting from those ideas, and and which ones particularly appeal to you? Think might have some legs. We introduce the concept of. My qualifying race which was based on reverse championship set a qualifying race would stop in reverse championship, bordering than that were tightening you straight to the main event, which would be the result Sunday on. We discussed that last year and we had. We had pretty good support for that, but not unanimous. and it's been the same case issue. It's been some teams who? Have felt that something we should be doing. All concern was simply where we have races two races the same track because of the situation this year. We're going to have to raise his Australia to races, so we'll send. Possibly two races later in the air or other of the. And the second, race. We wanted to see. There was an opportunity to try different format. There's some small things we can do with the selection of talk pans and one or two other things, but I think a quite Mina. One or two attracts later in the year. Have the added attraction. They can run in a different configuration. So that might be an opportunity if we have a second race there. To run the track in a different configuration, create some difference between the two races, but I suspect Australia's going to be pretty exciting beginning of the season. Nitra attract. Everyone settling in. On the I think we will find that. We'll have to exciting races without doing anything to it. But. It's just later in the we were. Looking at these changes. Of this pandemic and the associated lockdown of basically economies to a halt around the world, a lot of big companies, manufacturers and sponsors of the sport of all been affected by that is redundancies. There's a lot of belt-tightening etc. How does Formula One forward in terms of its appeal to manufacturers and sponsors, and how conscious you of the acuteness of the situation? Will. Is You know we'd been working on? The budget CAP, which is probably one of the biggest impacts on the cost of going from one racing. We've been working. Since I, read your informal one. And that. Reached his combination before this crisis but this crisis. I think. gave us the opportunity. We knew the budget capital was. Would once you're said a budget cap? You can always just. Before this ever happened with said the we ever have a crisis. In the future, we can adjust the budget cap to take account and all except that some it, the ideal level equilibrium changes. I think without the ability for the teams to go back to the boards and go back to the manufacturer and say look. For Long is vitally important to, and it's going to cost less than future. I think they would you know we would retain the number of manufacturers big teams that we have? Because when a manufacturer is making the. Economic adjustments that has to inform on still out there. With unlimited spending. That's difficult argument and I think. Touch Wood. We've kept all the main players involved, and that's because we bailed to say that the stained. When economic inspecting! And that's been a vital tool in very timely. I'm so glad. We've had that. We're also changing the cast, but that was something we were doing anyway but they're more focused on what we feel. The areas fans engage with instead of spending money on things and fans knew nothing about. And I think they're going to be better. Looking cars sending the race each other more effectively, so there's a lot of things we doing. We've got our I. Think we'll talk about that. Maybe the moment we've got our sustainability initiatives, which was started last year's which I think are important for engaging companies as well they want see good. Sustainability Strategy Info on. and we need to do that without spoiling the core attraction. Excitement the foam. Now. Formula One's always been brilliant in terms of its speed of reaction, and we certainly saw that when this started, but it's not always been so good collaboration between the stakeholders. Formula One and the team throughout your racing career. You've obviously got many painful memories of that now you're on this side of the fence, obviously a tremendous relationship with the FAA that spirit of collaboration I mean. I've been Formula One for thirty years. I've never really seen anything like it before. Do you think that was coming anyway? Origin the pandemic crisis through into the need to do it. Can you sustain it going forward? I think it was already. I think the Particularly with the new management team at foam along liberty Chase Carey. I think the approach and culture with different. That the policy of cooperation. On those all succeeding together. was much stronger and. Sunday, that's how I. Want to see things an SI. We have seen things on across with this pandemic. It's been absolutely vital and I must say that there fi for more on and the team. Worked incredibly closely and constructively impulsively in in mazing this crisis of saying this before when we've had crises in for more on its and I think apply so matt racing. It so United Group of. Enthusiasm Asom Passionate people about what they do. And they wanted to go out on the track and hammer each other, but you know the when we have this crisis that come together remarkably well to solve the problems and challenges I think. Olmeta sports great in that respect we put for that competition to one side for the greater good and I've seen that happened so many times in my own case in two thousand nine. GP Narrow. When we had that crisis support, we had from other teams. was astonishing. To track when changes. It is I. Think we're in the very strong period of cooperation between the FAA from on and the teams on. We need to make the best use of. Now, you mentioned sustainability I'm going to go and tomorrow we'll be talking with a panel. Including your own Afghan Coumarin F one director, strategy and business development about motorsport, needing to have a sense of purpose going forward four one has been taking steps with its net zero and carbon initiative through. An also in recent weeks as well getting involved in Hashtag, black lives, matter and putting out of a strong message there you've had the three thousand five hundred lives campaign together, with the FAA and some of the sponsors with drink, driving campaigns, and that sort of thing do you think a sense of purpose will have to become central to Formula One motorsport in general going forward? Yes, and I think you can never. You can never ignore the core reason why we're doing this, you know it's a competitive and entertaining engaging score. You must have that so whatever we do if that fails, then you've got new platform. To give a message. But I think foam on is May Say I. Think is the Pinnacle of Bonus Fault and I think it has a role to play in. In Set an example of how we operate. And Sustainability perspective. We're looking at fuels and loss of the power. Units we require from future. That's on next focus off the budget cap. The Koch changes were now focused on the power powerplant for the future. And that should come in twenty twenty six, and what will be the RAV powerpoint? What sort of fuel using sustainable fuels? And, we are looking at Carbon impact, how can we? Stop in. Can we change our practices to make sure that we have? A common zero. We can achieve common air in the future. So nothing for very good at that I think with the. Resources, we have the technology have the intelligent people we have involved in the sport. And we can be a model for for many manufacturers in terms of what we do, so I think the relevance comes in that in that respect, but we can never lose sight of the fact that we're an entertaining and engaging sport and we lose that. Then say we have no platform to talk from so that always has to be. A very strong consideration what we do. Obviously. There's been no physical racing over the last three months Ross but East Sim racing is certainly stepped up. It's been it's. It's moment to shine. You've had your virtual f one championship. We saw the extraordinary event. Lamar, the weekend with two hundred drivers in thirty seven countries on one hundred seventy rigs, taking part, and we see really very much the rise of digital motorsport. We'll be talking about that in a special session on Thursday here in the FAA e conference, but it's wanted to get your thoughts on as as a man engine era very much a forward thinker you've you've seen each sports rising. But what do you think about the way? It's risen to the challenge during lockdown period. Well it's been a a a lifeline in this period to keep fans engaged. In so many people in lockdown to be able to offer them this entertainment this engagement. Following has been been wonderful I. Mean I have to confess I'm not a big for each for participant. perhaps on a little old. I've got grandchildren never king, and I can see the passion I have for these things. The thing I've seen the that very striking to me is how because the real drivers have become involved in these initiatives these events? How Well. They've been engaged with the fans and one of our. Main objectives when we when I got involved again which to see how we could. You know the message was constantly coming across in the fans. They wanted Dave drivers, and they see him in the car with a helmet on. See them into beautiful. But. Drive is really like what are their characters like they do. Live. And of course as four, she's much better insight into the driver's personalities and characters and the nature. And that's been. A Real Boon and London, Norris and George. Russell, and all those guys that you probably wouldn't have quite so much. All of suddenly comes to the forefront. which is in the personalities have come out and. I think I'll spend the really I use for the element erasing and. and. We always supported it as you know we had. Erasing Championship every from long chain participating, but they would be with professional gamers most of the time and I think the The real racing drivers taking part it's been. Massive boost to Iranian. I couldn't agree with you more about the drivers. The clerks and his twitter channels been hugely entertaining as landowners throughout this period, and I guess we don't want to do is that when you go back to real racing I guess you keen to get the teams in the drivers to try and keep that that Communication Channel Open. If you like so, it doesn't go back to being a two straight. If you want to corporate controlled, they can, they can express themselves and on. On how important is to reach that younger generation? I'm sure that will have a lot more support on a lot more resource in the future, so we've seen massive hosted lives in that side and we're not GonNa want to let them go, so hormones very It's been brilliant you thank you so much for for taking the time you're probably the busiest busiest man in motorsport at the moment is where what nineteen days away I think from your first growing pre. How the nerves feeling confident? Yeah. But you know, we have people going to Austrian actually so it's It's it's It's happening so Real now. As so exciting we're already looking forward to it, and all the very best of luck to you and the formula, one team and everybody else in getting Formula One restarted again. Thank you again for joining us Ross. Joy The like since you are thinking series. Thanks to Watson James Time. Tell us what you think of these shows and various social media channels using the Hindu. And if you're enjoying your series, we'd love to share it. Someone else who be ingested. 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28: Sabine Kehm on working with Michael Schumacher as his PR and manager

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28: Sabine Kehm on working with Michael Schumacher as his PR and manager

"Hello. I'm Sabrina Kim. And you're listening to be on the grid. Hi, everyone. Happy new year. I think we can still say that it's Tom Clarkson here with the second of two very special episodes of beyond the grids presented by Bose quiet comfort thirty five to wireless headphones. It was Michael Schumacher's fiftieth birthday on January the third and to celebrate such a landmark there's been a wealth of content across Formula One's channels dedicated to the seven time champ, we kicked off Schumacher week seven days ago with a feature length conversation with Ross Brawn the man who engineered the German maestro throughout those incredible years of domination this week where closing our celebrations with another fabulous guest. The person you're about to hear from is one of the few people to have witnessed the public and private sides of Michael Schumacher having worked with him. I as a journalist then his his peo- and more recently as his manager. I'm talking about sagging, Kim. She quiz Michel with a dictaphone when he was winning championships for Benetton, and she wants alongside him when he was dominating f one Ferrari, and she continues to manage his business affairs to this day. She's known Michael for a long time. And she knows him better than most. I hope you enjoy our conversation. Sabine? Welcome to be on the great. It's lovely to have you with us somewhat is a very special week. Of course, Michael's fiftieth birthday. And on behalf of all of the listeners are just like to say keep fighting Michael is in all authors. Yeah. Thank you. I really I really appreciate it. I'm sure Michael's family and Michael himself. Appreciate that a lot. It's been incredible the amount of of sympathy, which which came to them, and which I don't know if you know that. But in the end, the family decided since all this sympathy and this good energy came to them. They didn't just wanted to keep it. They wanted to send it out back again. So that's why we decided to to create that keep fighting foundation, which is really trying to continue Michael's charitable work. And that's what we're trying to do. It's a fantastic thing. Well, it let's talk about the great man Sabine. I mean, when did you first meet him, and what kind of impression did he make new? Well, I. Have to unfortunately, say it's quite a while ago. It's it's been in at the German Grand Prix and ninety four I've been a journalist then and obviously a German journalists. So the German Grand Prix has been a big thing in all the printed and also TV offices. I've been a writer so I met him in the hochenheim in ninety four. And my first impression I mean, obviously, I had read about him have watched him he'd been present already in the German press. But that was the first year when he was kind of, you know, finally, there was German driver. Maybe being able to to win the the Formula one world championship which was at that time something on imaginable in Germany. So I really remember our our our chief editor saying wall. There's describe we need to go there now. So I kind of said let me go. And but yeah, like, I think everybody else at that time or a lot of people still still at the end of his career. I saw him as. In a distant reserved cautious. But I always felt that the whole Formula one scenery was extremely interesting to to describe as a journalist because you had all these different characters, and Michael was clearly one outstanding character, you could see that. Then all ready and Hockenheim was very busy back in those days. Wasn't that the whole stadium section was fully as a lot going on wasn't that? We'll see what's he an easy interview for for the German media. How did you find? When when the dictaphone was on how how was the funniest thing is that I always felt looking back as journalists. I always felt he was easier with the British media, actually because I think it's because if you're trying to explain something in your own language, you would like to be very specific and very nuanced. Whereas maybe in another language like English was Mike. It's obviously not not Michael native language, it it it comes across more easy because maybe you you are not. Able to go in all these little perfect nuances. So in I always felt that Michael's interviews in English sometimes even stronger than the ones in Germany because then he he really is sometimes tried to be so precise that in the end it didn't really come across. And well, it it was not so easy. I felt I really felt that he was you could feel that there. He was a very. How should I say, I'm strong character? But he was not easy to open. And that that was then and that was later the same. I think, but you have a very interesting perspective on Michael, don't you? Because you've worked on both sides of the divide if you like the journalists that you've just described, but then was that year two thousand then go and work for Michael. So how different have you found that the public and the private side of Michael? I found it extremely different. I mean, it was really like to personas. And clearly Michael was always wanted it to have like this. He wanted to be a person public. The racing driver being able to be followed and watched and whatever by everybody, and that was kind of his racing driver personality. And then there was a very strong of feeling for privacy. And he never wanted to open up also needed that. And he had understood that he needed that privacy in order to refresh his batteries because if you are in the center of attention over so many years micro will has been fighting for the championship moralists onwards ninety four until the end of two thousand six which is an incredible line of years. But that really takes a lot of energy away from you. So you really have to make sure that you that you also get it back and for Mike. He understood I think quite early on that he really needed to have that. To divide these two lives kind of. And did it very consequently like everything he did methodically. I guess he was struck me as a very methodical person is that what he was like to work. It was extremely like this in working, but very different in private life. I mean, he was really a different kind of person in private was really very easy going not not that methodically really enjoying his life. A lot enjoying having fun. A lot enjoying being with friends and doing things which they would really then laugh about afterwards, so very different persona. But I think a lot of that comes down to the fact that in order to arrive in Formula one. Michael being from from this that say. A background that he was from Maine. He didn't really they never really had the money, and he would never have thought that she would ever arrive in Formula one that was beyond thinking, and she learned from early on from his trial that he had to deliver when he's in this car or cart and then data in this kind of cards. He was driving. He really had always to deliver in order to still going to to be able to get a seat and to a able to have a cockpit announcing that never really got away from him. So what sort of Michael defined in the two thousand because he had four really frustrating is with Ferrari hadn't so he run the title with Benetton ninety four ninety five and then six seven eight nine thousand and happened for various reasons, how did he deal with the disappointment of those year? It was clearly a big thing. Obviously, it was clear that the pressure was extremely high end you could feel that right away. I mean, it was in a way I felt it was like a very decisive here. And I don't know what have what would have happened. If the championship would not have happened. So I in two thousand I I really had the feeling that. I really don't know what happened, you know, if they don't finally make it. So he was incredibly hard working in that year, really not giving any anything to him. You know, he really put in everything. So it was it was a very demanding job. Also for me even being used to be in the Formula one paddock. But obviously as you say, it was a different side. And there were a lot of things in the background, which usually don't get to see a journalist. And you only don't see that. These drivers have been the same quest up being asked the same questions really one hundred times over a race weekend. Because as a journalist you're there, maybe. Once or twice at. But you know, there's all the other journalists to arm show, you came up with original questions, you you better than. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it was obviously there there was something with with with the interviews. I did before that suddenly he wanted me to work for him. Well, actually that that's an interest. An interesting story. Just how how did he approach you? And were you nervous about going to work for the most famous sportsmen in Germany, one of the most famous sportsman in the world. Actually, I was obviously because otherwise I would not have done it. But originally, I I was really I was I was loving being a journalist. I really felt I was really feeling that. I was in a in an extremely interesting environment. I not did not only cover Formula one if covered Olympics and other stuff, and I left it. So at the beginning, I was contacted by by micro stand manager really really Bieber who kind of because he didn't want to steer up a story approached me of asking me if I wanted to take the shop for rive, funnily enough and an clearly said, no, I don't want to just for our listeners. That's brother Ralf who at the time was at Williams, wasn't it. Yeah. Don't even remember. Exactly. Yeah. But and so I- clearly and bluntly said, no, I'm very nice on being asked. But I am not interested. And then really was kind of saying you cannot only just say no you have to. I mean, maybe you have to sink. About it. And I said, no, I'm really I'm happy where I am. And I love covering all that stuff. So eventually when he felt that I was really saying, no and kind of wanting to walk away. He he went into explaining more. And at some point and said, wait a minute. What you explain in me that doesn't fit to this English environment. Where rivals it would really rather fit into this talion investment. Are we speaking about rive or my because if you ask me about Michael then the answer is not immediately. No, then I then I'm happy to think about it. Because of the as the as to say he has been a big star at that time already. And as a journalist, you always want to be an look behind the scenes, and you always want understand what's really going on. So obviously there was a big curiosity. Frankly, admits to really be able to see that. And that's why it took me long because I really didn't have never thought about doing the other side. But eventually exactly that curiosity took over. So what was it like being you arrived at the perfect time in terms? Of course, they win the championship in tears. Exactly. Two thousand two thousand one two three what was it like just being on that that that juggernaut of success with Ferrara? It was really an incredible journey. You can't really say that differently. And then it's memories and moments. Nobody can ever take away from me. And I really really remember when Michael one eventually in Suzuka, which I mean, I've never imagined such an explosion of emotions it was really like an explosion from him from now from from the team from the whole team. He was really crossing the finish line. And really in the back of the garage, people broke down in tears, and when I saw that that moment, I think only then I really understood what it meant to them because they had tried for so long and for so many years, and there were so there was some like mechanics and who had been around for I know twenty five years, and they were literally. Greely crying in tears, and then put a shame that they were crying over trying to hide it was never seen something so touching. I have to say. And so that was the moment when are really start while you know, that that moment is even bigger than I had even expected it to be an it was clearly it's it will always be in my heart. Obviously to see those people was it that race where he there was very emotional radio. Message Karenna Karenna we give Coronado kiss from me. That was. Yeah. It was extremely emotional moment for everybody involved. Did it elevate? Michael in terms of the demands on his time did elevate him into a different sphere of demand and position within the world of sport. Do you think I think so? Yes, I mean, I I also think that he immensely grew in in the years that he that he was driving Formula one having this success and continuing. To have that success. He developed massively also as a person, obviously, also being married and having children at all helps you grow veasley. But also being having that position within the team. And then also within the sport. And then also within the grades of any kind of sport in the world that gave us a gravitas, which which I think he poured out in a way over the years. Did he relax when he got first championship with Ferrari was it noticeable? No he did. He did was that Michael Schumacher. He couldn't relax. He could actually. But but as I said before he he was really relaxed. He was really relaxed. You would for example, if you had watched him in his private environment. You would for sure noticed being Utah that he was much? Let's say slower with everything you did. Because in Formula one episode. Was needed to be so quick and component. We had scheduled which was sometimes split down to two minutes. You know, but then in his private environment. It was not like this. He was really relaxed when it was when it came to the Formula one and the commitment, and and the team and the driving and and the delivery, then he was really never relaxed. Was there one thing he had in his private life that helped him to relax heard Mika Hakkinen, for example, talk about he had a tortoise and the tortoise folks so slowly that it sort of he get home from a race weekend. And he'd see this tortoise walking, slowly and everything we're just slowdown was did Michael have something like that in my clearly had his family. I mean, I- Karina mean the release the there were such perfect couple, and they are still a perfect couple of if you ask me, and when when he when he went home and the kids were coming, you know, it was from the one was far away. And I as I said before he needed that. That that privacy kept private in order to take the energy out of it. But that was always for people like looking at it from the outside like friends or people like me it was. So obviously, his family is is has always been his kind of Georgia in a way. And we're the very competitive in terms of did he have to win everything even at home playing tennis with the family or. Yeah, I'd say, yes. Yes. Everything he was clearly a competitive person. Yes here and he had horses when he Karenna obviously has a lot of horses, and then already ten had horses and loves them and loves raining toward that she does. But Michael was not so much into that. But because Coronel was so much into it. And he was always been so close to current. I kind of share that because he was always saying I remember when he was the first time when he was Ferrari when he when he retired. He said, you know, Karinna has. Dedicated so much time to my passion. I want to give back to her. Now dedicate my time to her passion. And that's what he did. So you mentioned his retirement from Ferrari the end of two thousand six I remember that Brazilian Grand Prix last race of that year. He went from hanging. Go to punch on the opening lap. Didn't any went from nineteenth fourth one of his best races. How how difficult was it for him to step away from Ferrari the team that he'd had so much success with when it was clearly difficult because it was really his passion. And and yeah, as you say he had so much success, but even more it was such close group of friends in a way that that that team was built into such a close relationship. Everybody had been so close, you know, so it was really very difficult. But then at that time because at that time, especially not maybe not in not anymore into those and six but years before there was always racing testing racing testing. And michael. He did a lot of testing because he wanted to make sure and some point also the tires were little bit. Maybe not the best or not the better ones. So he did a lot of testing and that obviously was very draining and into doesn't six he already felt that a lot. I mean, the the two thousand six season, even if it would have been nearly another world championship season was very difficult for his for his physical condition. He had a really sometimes neck problems. And we didn't want anybody to understand that obviously because it would have obviously influenced the championship. But it was clearly like this at that point. It was time for him to go seven eight nine two thousand seven hundred nine he he was away from Formula one. I think he did a bit with Ferrari knee sort of often on an ambassadorial role. But did you see a very different Michael in those threes. Are clearly I mean, he was really of. And I really remember kind of in going into this two thousand seven year. He really looked at me and say, you know, don't even call me for the next half year. You know, I am not available for anything and an equity even understand it. You know, really mean? Yeah, he he clearly meant that. He was he wanted to enjoy the time with his family, and he really wanted to enjoy the things he always wanted to do and still did. But even wanted to do them more often. And but but really clearly he wanted to spend time with his family and with his friends, and he didn't he didn't really have any desire to come back. Actually, he was really happy with his retirement. So it was more down to Russ than kind of to kind of putting the fire economic even to the tested in order to replace Philippe. When he had this problem with nine without the neck problem. Now, definitely had that the the crash in Hungary. But thing which came to a Samad. I don't know the word in the spring was. Yeah. Couldn't drive. So then might was asked to drive and that was kind of at that point. He felt you know, he was kind of. And then he did it. He he couldn't do it and because of his neck, but he did the test. And he he saw that it. I mean, even of course, he had his neck problems. So he could not have driven it then. But he felt that he could still drive. So what reignited the fire, I think? Yes. So when he said, you Sabine I'm gonna go back full-time with Mercedes. How much of a surprise was it for you? It was at full surprise because we had like we had several discussions than it was always very clear that Michael did not have desire to come back. And then I remember very clearly that she called me. And he said, he know what's being I just had a chat with Ross and. Can you make me some pros and cons? Maybe if I should come back or not a nicer, I think Microsoft has no need to do that. Because I can hear from your voice that you already decided an is. No, no, no. I'm not. I mean, I need you. Maybe maybe you can NS. It makes no sense. I feel that you are decided I mean, you can you could really feel it immediately. So I really I was totally surprised. There are more stories and memories from Sabine coming up in just a moment in part two of our podcast celebrating Michael shame Acas birthday. If you've just joined us with this episode, then when you finish this one I highly recommend that you listen back to last week's chat with Ross Brawn. He shed some wonderful insights into what made Michael so brilliantly fast. And it seems a lot of you enjoyed it too. And you share your thoughts with us using the hashtag F one beyond the grid. Alex Griffin said for me, Michael Schumacher as modern Formula one. He achieved so much in terms of polls on wins. But also transformed driving with his unrivalled commitment to physical and mental fitness. 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Meaning that whether you're at home or in the office, you get the same consistent sound quality pumping through as you do if you need to take the noise cancellation Apponaug on a busy street. And if you're an Amazon, Alexa, or Google assistant user, the new be pleased to know that the QC thirty five twos have been refined to give you direct access to both again all accessible just at the click the button now, let's get back to Sabine. By that stage, EP working with them for ten years. So did he rely heavily on new just on the big decisions as well as the detail stuff by by then I mean until then he had a manager will REBA who was obviously having a big role in putting him into Formula one. And so on and he was not really discussing the big decisions with me. Obviously, we were working very close and Michael love to hear several if we wanted to do a big decision. He wanted to hear several aspects or he would discuss it with really would also always discuss it with Corinna. And then he would always discuss it also with me, but it was not like me giving him the advice in terms of that. He then followed it here. He tried to collect various aspects when it really came to two big decisions. And then he would kind of, you know, make his mind how frustrated did he get during those three years with Mercedes? Maria hit that podium in Valencia. Didn't he had the pole position in Monaco? Awfully. Yeah. That was really a shame because that could have been a very that could have been a lot of nice emotions again, actually, the thing is that very very quickly. It became very clear that it would not turn out the way that he had hoped for because I'm in the first year. I think there was a lot of the resources were not really there. And there was not really it was clear that they were not that would not be given us. Well, so that was obviously a little bit disappointing. But then at some point it was also we have to cope with it and have to go on. And I think microphone a lot for to convince the right people to really give more money into it. And really make it make it a big team, you know, again because recent Microsoft, laid the foundations of the Mercedes success. Maybe I maybe not neutral, but I think yes, because he hasn't really made it very clear that if you have if you wanna do it you have to do it really full throttle. And not at the beginning. It was a bit undecided. Kind of came back. But not really, you know, and they were kind of operating a little bit as a middle team. And and not really like as a top team. And and I think the way that Michael kind of addressed this to to to some people have had them to really, you know, see that it makes no sense to like this. And I mean, I think already in his last year you could see that the things were coming coming. And it was quite obvious also to him that if he had stayed another year, and that that that will already be a much better year for for him as well. Because already in the last his last year, which was two thousand twelve he was he was having the time. It was coming. It was coming up. But at that time, it just didn't we discussed it, actually. And as maybe you stay another year, then you know, and his noble, I'm I'm not having it. I don't I don't want to spend so much time away from us from my family and that was. Actually, the the reason why then knowing he couldn't maybe have a better record at the end. If you stayed another year, he just decided against horsey has obsessive about the fitness aspects of it and everything else that comes with being a good driver was he as obsessed with in the Mercedes years as he was a Ferrari, I think the biggest difference between these two years if you if you make compare them is that in the three years that he had been away from the track after his first retirement he had under because he did a lot of things he really wanted to do. And he had understood in the three years that he's able to let lose and but still get the focus on whereas before he never allowed himself to let loose because he was afraid that he would not be half the focus on the same way like before. And and he always had as I said he always had that need to deliver. And in this room. Years. He understood he can still deliver. Even if let go so he he enjoyed these three Mercedes years on another on a more personal level. You know, he he he very very very quickly. Understood that it would not come out the way he would have wanted and really tried to soak other things in, you know, so he he was very open ended discussions, and he liked that way. And he then just enjoyed his time, you know, driving and discussing with the team trying to work with the engineers with mechanics things he always loved, but before he could not have done them. So so it was a different pressure. Obviously the pressure was totally different. Now, all these. I think a lot of racing drivers are mad and awkward little Michael story. I never I went and did a skydive in Dubai. Atanda skydive. Actually, I was jumping with Tim O clock. And we were just going towards the plane, and Michael is there didn't deny it was going to be that. He was. He came up in the same plane load as us brilliant at during the skydive thing he was on his own jumped out, and then we all got back down to the bottom. Hit dropped his parachute. Went straight back up. Again. I mean, he was an obsessive character is that is that fair because he just he was going down days. It was really happened. I remember that a lot. And I think he t MOS the the fact that team was skydiving was because of Michael was and we all had to skydive. I mean, even skydiving into by because I mean, he was kind of influencing and and because he was so much enjoying it. And that the nice thing about Michael is always been that he loved to see other people having fun. So he left to have fun, but he also loved to share that with other people, and he really that was something I really always liked on him so much even then in this very tense times that I mean, he's still new you never forgot about the other people having fun too. So and it's true, maybe to a certain way. You can say that. That's obsessive clearly were skydiving. If if you like something, really? Yeah. That was I mean, he was really like he could never stop. There was listen with cartoon, you know, he was like had the feeling or like when he was testing with Ferrari, I remember Friday evenings when mechanics were would come up to me and say how long he stood ROY man. I was a now it looks like another day. You know, when maybe the test was originally scheduled until Friday only and at the first years, you could still go on some and Michael was always going on. Because he could you know, when he had the feeling that you can still do more. He always did it. Now rope Smedley told me on this poker stately few weeks ago that Michael was a brilliant team person win or lose. He would go around and shake the hand of every mechanic, not just on his car, but every mechanic, every engineer he even on Rubens is car Eddie Irvine's co whoever's. What are your experiences of the Sula human side of of Michael? Absolutely. I agree with rob. I mean, he, and I know that he did. But he also really he'll hit each genuinely enjoyed the time with the team and also with the mechanics because he I think if Michael would not have been a Formula one driver, he would have probably been a mechanical, whatever he he would have had a job in some kind of driving slash racing slash mechanic environment. He loved that stuff. And so he always him. He never thought he something different or special compared to the mechanics, and that's what the mechanics loved on him. They always felt like he's genuinely interested in in what they do. But also who they are. So he was very often having chats with them about their families. And and and it was always a big thing. We had we had a big list of of those days. He wanted to have the birthday of everybody and we needed to really give Christmas. Wishes and presents to everybody. And it was always coming up Christmas. He would always exclu- in length. Think about what president to give to that was something which was really important to him. Because he felt like he knew that he was demanding for for at least he wanted to also reward them in a way, and he's Michael has always been a very warm person. Obviously even in in this racing environment. When but obviously not he didn't want to that to be seen to the outside because he felt that would kind of take away some something of the competitiveness at least in the outer perception. So as I said, he he very very clearly divided those two personas, and you also, obviously, you know, that sports and out that level is also a lot of mind games and stuff. So he obviously wanted to come across confidant and. Wrong and athletic. And and that's that's also what is Michael as well. You know, he he's a very athletic proud person. So so he wanted to that to become to to come across. He absolutely nailed that confident persona didn't and you talk to someone like Damon Hill. And I think he will say yes, Michael was exactly what you've just described. Where was he as confident in real real life? Or did we have the same insecurities as the rest of it? As maybe I'm an I'm not sure if it had the same insecurities, but he clearly has questioned himself all all the time. And to me that one of the secrets of his success. He would never say or approach anything I can do in any way. Because I've proved it a lot an improved it all the time, and I can do it. He would always kind of doubt himself and look into himself. If maybe if if if it's still there and to me, that's one of the real things the real point which. Made him so strong. And once he said to me, the funniest thing is when I go into something, I always have the feeling. L some somewhere of negative feeling. I've not sure if I can really do it. I have to prepare one hundred percent when I do it. Suddenly comes this confidence while I do it and and kind of carries me away, and that's probably in a way. Yeah. That's that's probably how did it. But he certainly was questioning himself a lot and clearly also defining that as something he needed to improve. Did he ever told you about rivals other drivers on the grid? Other people. Lead raced against the ever talk about the people he really respected or didn't respond to just did you ever today? Ever talk much about rivals. Or was it more about car? No, it was really more. We talk a lot about the team and the elector the the environment. We were we were working in together. He didn't speak so much about ROY of health. Course he did that as well. But no, he he did not kind of prepare to a raise in looking at the other people. He really needed to know that he is prepared the best way. And then the rest was kind of. Okay. Then let's see who's who. Springing it on on the track kind of so in his whole perform preparation to something he was trying to even to really not look so much to even if he did that obviously he knew exactly what they would go to. But he I think he didn't let them go in into his mind. So so in conclusion Sabean, how do you feel Michael changed Formula one? I think that he he's been given a for me. I think Formula one is really the the pinnacle of motorsport it has to be it is the the playing field of of can kind of the gladiators of of our modern times. And I think Michael clearly has been the leading gladiator for for so many years. And I think obviously he's given his given two things to the sport one. Is that really that's he was the star. And everything was kind of centered around him. You know, he was either story if you had. Lost arrays or he was the story if had wanted and at the same time, I think a lot of people understood that there was also the second part of Michael and clearly Michael didn't really want didn't want them to to be so close to this other persona. And there was something which also was really interesting for the people. I think he really brought Formula one to a to a level that it was coming into the living rooms of average people were as before at least that's the case in Germany, and whereas before that was kind of seen as as a playing field of some people who are, you know, a little bit crazy. And it's a coup is a cool sport. But you can really take it serious, and Michael kind of broad that that that thinking into these people so that he brought the sport into their living rooms if if I'm clear here. Morosini clipper is I think it's fascinating that Germany fell in love with Michael in a way, really that they haven't fallen in love with any other German drive a sense. Why do you think what was it that? He had this other guys haven't. I think there's two two aspects of one is that I don't know if that's the case also for other countries. But I think in Germany, that's really the case. I think the first one would whoever achieve something really outstanding is always left in a way more has a bigger impact. And the other ones are just kind of the next ones. And and Michael clearly has been the first one, and maybe Stephan Beloff, or who was really a great driver too. But unfortunately, you know, he couldn't show that maybe he would have been the first one would have all been very different. But Michael clearly was the first one, and it was really as I said in my first year, it was kind of wild. There was this astonishment around water is German driver being able to world champion what we have to. We have to watch now. And the second thing is also that Michael really came from a very average environment. And I think a lot of people could just really relate to him. You know that there he was not the son of of maybe of also of. A rich family or something really had worked his way up very intensely. And he had a lot of work to to be able to arrive where he arrived energy for he achieved. And also this. I think that the people like that. So he was one of them the people. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. This might sound strange question. But was he lonely, and the reason I'm asking that is phenomenal. Lonzo obviously retired at the end of twenty eighteen and one of the reasons he cited for retiring is that he didn't have many friends because his his whole life really since he was eighteen had been so focused on Formula one. And then the moment you become successful in on your put on a pedestal makes you quite inaccessible to other people because you're famous, and as a result, he said, I don't have many friends, and I it is actually really lonely being up there. Do you think Michael would relate to that situation? Or did he have a great now, clearly not in my view. I as I said, I mean, he really had that family. I mean, Carina indicates an and defend together since really young. So I think from family wise, he was not at all. I'm here really was and still is very. Close with his family. So that is one thing. And the saying the second thing is that Michael managed. I really think that's a very nice thing to say he managed to have friends from his childhood until now. So there is people like Peter Kaiser, for example, who now follows mic his son everywhere. His one of my closest friends Morris from karting days in captain for everything started. And he has some other people on still has who always. That's the nice thing as well. Because they have always been around. And they're also told him. Hey, hey, come down. You know, you may be starbuck. You're you're still from capitol shut up and have a drink and whatever. So and that was nice he joined that a lot. And he knew how how precious that was. And he kept that. So he he has a bunch of clothes and very good friends are already those friends racing. Roy was the sort of journalists of these are leases of. Obviously, a friend of his. But I mean, these friends I'm speaking now as really they're coming from captain from the car track in Germany, where he grew up, and he that were really like one being his former mechanic, and, you know, so really childhood friends, you know, and that's something which is not a lot of people can say, and that was always that was always very important to Mike. And that's why I would never say he was or is lonely. So like, I say, let's just talk about Michael's legacy. What what do you think that is in term in Formula, one context what I think he's been? He's been the picture of the of the sport. I mean, his his define the way that people would nowadays CEO from Lewan drive needs to be. I mean, he's he's defined the it's a driving the driving itself on the track. When you when you're kind of alone than for me, the definition of how you work with a team. And how how important it is to really be be inside and really understand everything in order to run then give the right direction or find the right questions, which is also very an even more obviously than find the right answers to those questions fitness level. I also saying that Michael clearly defined that if you look at these young drivers, they all superfit, and and I think he defined the role of all the role model of modern from Lewan driver. How obsessed with fitness was. I mean, we hear that he was super fit. But was in the gym the whole time a bit like Ronaldo the football player is currently he was clearly in the gym every day. I mean, not obviously not all the time. But he would he would train every day. And he was. I'm yeah. I don't know if you call that obsessed, but he also liked it. You know? I mean, of course, sometimes the the neck machine, he hated it sometimes because that's purely and really boring, but he lacked a lot of other sports. So he he'll he left that. And but he was clearly it was daily routine and for him, really important. But also, I think also important in terms of still Formula one driving at that time on you had to drive so much was also really draining, you know, for the body. But is fantastic. Thank you, very spring. That was a lovely. What fabulous insights from Sabine? The take home message for me is that while Michael might have come across as an automated when he was racing. There was always a caring and conscientious sides him that we the fans didn't always get to say when he was in his pump. Thank you Sabine for being so open that was a fascinating Chan and keep fighting Michael all thoughts are with. Well, that concludes our shoemaker specials and beyond the grid is now taking a few weeks holiday before coming back a head of the new season with more conversations. More insight more injury from the great and the good of Formula one please remember that you can contact us at any time using the f one b on the grid hashtag or you can tweet me at Tom Clarkson, F one. We love hearing all your feedback on the Ross Brawn episode and with the lighted that so many of you enjoyed it. And don't forget if you're new to the show that's the whole back catalogue to enjoy. What are you waiting for? Now though, thanks for Chilean beyond the greatest produced by one in association with audio until next time keep it flat out.

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Our verdict on F1s 2021 regulations

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Our verdict on F1s 2021 regulations

"Not going pre weekend. There's very very important presentation station. Because the twenty to twenty one regulations for Formula One much-vaunted reboots were revealed having been signed off by the World Motor Sport Council. We didn't really get into this in all Monday. Post race podcast. But we thought it'd be really good so to delve into the rules now that we've had onto adjusted understand them and see what some of the reactions spend spends really understand whether the twenty twenty one project is going to be a success. Based on what we've seen on joined by Jake box a leg technical expertise a resident baseball cap infused fast. So obviously the this has been great for you. This is this is this delightful suffer you to be To be waiting yeah and the thing is really really worried that once all of the teams it's of Therefore exit and everyone involved where he's twenty twenty one regulations would be quite watered down but ultimately it seems to be very much similar to F ones of undulated vision release. So it's really nice to see the extent the F.. One wanted to be really very very much. So obviously they provide some graphics and some of the teams. I've been doing that as well and there was a scale model of the car that was in the presentation fats. I saw them on Sunday night. In the press conference rumor holding it out the heavy. EPA kits have to say So called the Kosslick cricket but obviously that there's several key objectives to the twenty one regulations. One of them is. They won't improve race ability so in particular that means being run closer. They tried to address the the the playing field financially with a new financial financial regulation so previously we had two pillars of the regulations which is technical regulations and the sporting regulations. Now there's a nice document which I have in front of me. Haykal the financial chill regulations which is a part of it so it's all about showing to make Formula One more competitive better show better for fans and for it also to be financially sustainable for the team so I I think probably we should dolphins the technical side. I so I was GonNa say what's your first impression but you've got plenty of time to meet beyond that. So what's your your consolidated. Well reasoned impression of the of the technical rules. The chassis era rules the driven these regulations so. It's very very much focused on getting rid of that that everybody talks about its talked about as the silver bullet. We get rid of that when we make the racing much closer and obviously it's a much more nuanced argument than that but formula. No one has taken that step to stopping. This turbulent wake shadow of cars the impossible get rid of it. It is physically impossible to get rid of it. Oh but ultimately that has been this steps to reduce that because once car is following in the current climate The FAA produce produced a graphic to suggest that loses about forty five centimeters over downfalls which is a huge amount. It means these 'cause can't follow especially in of medium to high speed corners. That's where they they lose out the most so by changing this this area philosophy the by shifting the the bulk of the downforce being produced by the floor rather than the top of the car. That's going to have a huge effect on that because there's no all of this. This turbulent wake shared. It's things it's half slow going onto the floor being kicked up by the diffuse slash venturi very tunnels as they will be now and being directed quite far upwards Behind the car. So if I really really toll roost attached if you like and that ensures that there's no all of this debt falling behind the car and it means the the following because they're dynamics isn't is reduced It means front wing. It's not sensitive either anyway so data's data's been huge scale change I'm choosing my words quite Catholic. Because I'M GONNA get my hopes up too much but this does look like a huge step in the right direction marches. 2017 was very much a step in in the wrong direction. So because they've revisited talks about. I haven't seen regulations and they said that he's just a big mistake because they became obsessed with this this this laptop improvements August so it became all about making the cause more downforce etc.. They did hit. That's all things completely the wrong targets so this is this is the correct set of objects is I think we can agree the objectives. Ah Correct yeah absolutely Back in two thousand seventeen using the example of how not deregulations they were enticed by. This sort of Siren's Song of look you can do this. And how fast lap. Times and stop smashing records announced gray. If you know you like things on paper but but when it comes to watching an actual race watching twenty of the world's most skilful drivers battle track if the cause of fos but can't overtake. What's the point so these new regulations are trying to redress the balance in that direction? The cause will be slower as a result. Oh three to three point. Five seconds I think is what people have said but ultimately that doesn't matter people aren't going to be complaining that the causative slow if you know everybody's racing closely in the action is similar to what we see impacts indycar something like that or other than current Formula One you you referenced. The graph that showed the downforce level that you had a certain collins one car and currently down. Ah Basically fifty five percent of your downforce. The metoo twenty-one rex supposedly eighty six percent of downforce at one car length. Now I'm highly suspicious about that figure. I mean I'm sure it's correct you research. And that is correct. For what the models they've got but with the thousands of aerodynamicists thrown audits at this problem they are going to be able to manipulate the airflow with greater complexity perhaps than has been suggested so my suspicion is a it might be a splitting the difference between eighty six percent of that fifty five percent figure by the time. We get going racing. But what do you think. Do you think I'm being unduly pessimistic. When it comes to that uh nothing is to say especially because you know? The teams haven't had the chance to get their mitts on it yet earned despite all of the best efforts of Formula One and the FAA to try and prescribe as many things as possible. Teams will still have a say in all of this. Now come up with different shapes the Formula One thousand prepared for yet so it would probably be replaced not sixty five seventy percent or would match being really pessimistic. Here around seventy seventy five percent. I think that would be that would be successful Currently you probably need one. Not Seconds a lot faster than The car in front of Mount too serious challenge a mountain navy's Ache so something like that that will bring it closer to half a second the second second which would be much better for racing in reality. What if these rules get it down to that sort of level that would be a big difference but we should point out that the only way to eliminate those problems Romas and vacuum which obviously isn't going to happen so I wouldn't go to car moving through the air influencing it manipulating the effect will always exist assist impact the racing wounds that you can't kind of wish it out of existence so we just keep expectations in check? Yeah absolutely not you know this. We're talking about a physical property of that it exists You can't stop it from having its physical properties unless as you say run in a vacuum mm-hmm And in reality that's never gonNA happen even if it did Because even work The on planet Earth. We have our That is the situation of course as you say. You can't mitigates it but I think the problem is as well of a because when these damasus producing a car they do so to work in normal lamb air now in things like win Tun wasn't isn't CFDA's you couldn't ask turbulence models and you can simulate turbulence but ultimately the end of the day. You can't simulate for every single car. The driving behind every single weather condition every single permutation. You can't design for that Say automatically it's a fact of life you can't stop dirtier You can shrink and you can start the out in your favorite and a little bit but yeah I think it's a fact of life F when realized that and Of tried to work around it really close. We should say as well as reducing bike. The idea is by simplifying. The cause and oversee the Archibald Sabeyton been pretty much laid waste by these these regulations. If you look at the possible on a Formula One car now I mean Bargepole does. The phrase is wholly inadequate ready. Isn't that remarkable multicomponent pieces of dynamic bafflement ultimate if you look at them laser different shapes and profiles Komo powerful of obstacles but that's still being limited so the idea is that by making the Arrow Simpler and less less critical Everett's easier for the small. Let's say I don't have the depth of resources and Analysis Saturate survey at a similar level to the bigger team. So do you think. Do you think that follows these rules that that it will be easier. The big teams will always have an advantage because they can do more and despite the cost which we don't see later there will be. There will be still perhaps the have lessons. Should we say the half knots. But do you think that this is the right condo action to achieve that objective inserts closing things up. Yeah Yeah I mean. The restrictions are such the I mean obviously are Atlanticists. Engineers is still going to find ways around things they but ultimately smelly with a smaller box to play in Everything is going to be tied together. but then again there is there. There is the the caveat that with era restrictions and stuff like that and with the amount that teams can develop by in the future. If someone steals a march on the rest of the field is it can also be closed hard to rein them in Or hard to catch up to them rather But it is definitely a step step in the right direction as you say. I'm sure we'll discuss the cost cap in that. Those implications and having restricted development does work in in hand in hand with that. So it's GonNa be really really interesting. Say just how much closes up by really and kind of his attention to the obviously versus. They also talked about the way that this will be policed in terms of data galaxy. That can it's like scans and they're gonNA use I I caught a coordinate system. See that's a monitor. The cars and measure the chat there will legal to these Arrow rules which is just a slight change in the way. They've done it now. One thing they did in the in the presentation is they showed a few different versions of of cars and said wow that's been concerns about differentiation. But look as two different versions of the cars to sign roles and that different now whether you with I ready difference to the untrained is another matter because you want to kind of when you talk about the French station you probably. You won't be dramatically different but with rules as restricts. IRS that that they will converge immediately on the on the correct solution Russian. Because just because you can do certain things under the rules doesn't mean it sensible sir to do it I think well I think that's where some of the restrictions come into play eh In the people in two different designs Oatley It's going to be it's going to take longer. Fill that convergence agents to happen if it does but if you look at the current cost of 'cause now anyway you know they don't look dissimilar econ unsure as Rose Russell Once suggested I think it was. Ross Perot suggested the The F. One design in house design nineteen painted or because blackened the hard time trying to realize which was which oatley caused dudek similar. And I don't I think the any suggestion the other end of looking the same holds too much water because it's it's the kind of the case already anyway. Yeah they will. It will be restricted in yet. Ob any sandwich teams can do. Will we get to twenty twenty four twenty five. Everybody's got the same car. I don't know a ultimately if racing is good on track dating people are GonNa Complain Too much. Yes Farren and it's not the seventies anymore and the rules the same threat for every saying the laws of physics are the same for everything so so it stands to reason that they can come up with relatively similar in Cyprus. That's that's just that's just the way. Science works effectively and they converge. There is the chance for differences with the nose and the front wing the side pods such such. I guess the really important pulled encouraging thing coming back to the whole thing following the fact they have gone more ground effects that that's something that a lot of people have called for and seems to be a logical way of doing ovau. I it'll be interesting to say. How robust that priest obey wants a Formula One team star refining until the? It's going to be interesting because whole new vein velopment for everybody. It's not something that these people will have experienced Unless they've all designers that have remained from the early eighties and even then these ground effects are completely different sort of way compared to what they were in the eighties when it was you know big site poten sliding skirts. These are different very different breed. And it's something neef everybody's get their teeth into. I quite like I quite liked the idea of formula. One pitching an established format that everybody is of milk for all it's worth and now they have to do something completely different and maybe one one team will steal a march on ground affects pet. Somebody else we don't know But ultimately it is is a rich for rich reign of development should be very very interesting to see who does what. Obviously it's going to be quite difficult to talk about because unless you know you see car on the back of a truck or upside down something which we hope we done. It's going to be hard to talk about when do post race tech reviews or whatever ever is going to be difficult say new fin on on on the floor. We can't say it but it's there it's there so from that perspective. Ah also certainly struggle but it should be really interesting for the teams to together heads around now another thing that has been sorta by lenten future. Orders expressed concerns ongoing concerns about. This is the whites. The minimum wage to the car is rising again. Coney seven four three kilos. It's going up to seven six eight. Which is partly a consequence of the going to the eighteen inch wheel rims which has been planned for quite some time and that's an increase the minimum the engine and some of the prescribed components as they call it era increase the white? Because obviously you're having said to be built sewer a certain SPEC now I completely agree that it's a shame because I have a but other than the wheel rims I don't really see any weights cert- hangers just. It is what it is a no as perhaps might say is what it is and it's the same for everybody so y complained about the only it should be noted that the weight increase. It's it's an emergent property of the regulations. It's not the way and said yeah we'll make heavy. It's a consequence uh-huh not you say side-impact structures the halo these kinds of things in the power unit packages are heavy. That's that's always been. The case in this area are about safety stuff away. Safety equipment is quite boring and say you say Fernando Alonzo Channel and on Charlotte clerks had SPA Osteo. Something like that so yeah. I think it's a it's a necessary. Evil shall we say much as I I do think and I watch trackside every race and have done for a long time and and you can see a difference that shop a stats that lightness that lightning fast. Turn and isn't quite there. These days that was there sites hadn't twelve years ago. Shall we say but yet there are reasons for that and if reasons for it. That's Saikia we should briefly mention the power units. There's not a shake right to change that. That was originally of course when they were talking about these wrecks. Talk about getting rid of the energy you. I do not manufacture. Say Well we've developed this and we quite like it so we like to keep it. So basically they are the same a few little tweaks for cost saving etc that they're going to standardize fuel pump for example the feel Going from ten percents percents To twenty percent so now by mass increased renewables as part of that sustainability. And that. There's a longer kind of map for sustainability too. So you're welcome that so that's sort of a mind a minor point at gearboxes and breaks also. There's a few interesting things suspension as well as a few interesting areas or perhaps have about as much as I should be having. A gay books is quite an interesting one. gearbox will eventually be frozen specification patient from twenty twenty one to the end of twenty twenty-five So basically that's a huge cost saving that because as qua of cost sunk in rnd and things like that So ultimately that will be one upgrade allowed to the specification in that time so that five year span teams can make one upgrades the specification that entails how much of the gearbox you can change change whether it's a small thing or big thing Quite lot in not suspension as well So Formula One is gonNA simplify make the suspension a little bit cheaper by only really permitting like spring dampers at up So those really expensive narrators or heath springs or whatever they're called these days They're going to become which is quite an interesting testing one WH something that will have to Get Gary onison opinion on I think at some point because he knows about these things a lot more than I do certainly And then you've got the things that are a legacy of changes to the wheel assembly as well. Suspension uprights must now be solely included aided within the wheel assembly Say you don't get those with little extra mounting points. The Mercedes pioneered a few teams easing now. So there's quite a few changes in that particular area as well From a standpoint. So that's going to be interesting to see how teams get on top of a- It's probably going to play with a little bit with the ground effects as well In the suspension of ethos is going to have to change a little bit because they want not work that he's gone a lot more that needs to run as much rake as they would in the past so so of rethink in that regard. Yep I I think that's a A good move but it's interesting because suspension phone calls isn't sorts about as much as it should be and it's it's always the second order thing but it looks the era. I work on the formula. One cars what is you need to keep the the mechanical platform very very very well controlled. And there's a huge amount of gain in that and I think actually when it comes to this the big gap between the big three and the rest. I think a big part of that actually is some of the trickery banged with a suspension kind of the way. You're able to hold the car and have the car. Poised is on track to make it work unlocks a whole next level of development. If you can if you can do that so some restrictions on that will potentially Be Helpful suspect. That could be quite big point of differentiation. Given that they're having to make some significant changes brakes they're going to be. They can be limited for the first time all night with grip penalties for exceeding. Yeah city Say That is a new addition That's quite interesting one as well because breaks all going to be standardized So in theory it should lost one race weekend if everything's been tested correctly Obviously teams have to change because they've had an accident or something then of course. A few problems caused consternation understand the need for it. I wonder about the safety ramifications of that. Especially you know we've literally just had a raceway sway. Kevin masterson brake failed exploded with what he is. Yeah so it's an interesting. I'm not sure about that. One penalties for brake discs. Awesome pats. Obviously we'll see how it plays out. I don't know if I if I personally like that. Won t much. This'll so some tweaks to the chassis dimensions. Try Make It. But it's accommodate some of the biggest drivers changes to the energy. Absorption of the nose or the nose will be a little bit A little bit longer than then. There's a whole kind of network doc of components related to that listed components which exists currently. which is the things you have to make yourself? You have to own. The I pay in order Tek qualifies a constructor which which is what you need today and then there's standard supply components prescribed design components transferable components. And it's going to be this the open consoles components as well. Why by submit your design and his Helena sovereignty rival team can access it which basically means that he will design a certain part certain why you can invest in doing that but then is accessible to all the other teams but this is for non critical areas of the carpet? Sometimes that can be something that will unlock if if the ability to do something with something else by making it a little bit of Space Saving Little Bit of Weight Sensor gravity guidance so we've now these multiple tiers of of component tree in In Formula One cars. It's actually quite complex at different types exist now. I think he's quite interesting so obviously. Yeah there are these five new parts we've got our open source ones so all of the teams. I think that's for things like steering wheels and Little Bits and pieces like that teams have to drop them in a little a little bit service base and anyone can access them We have still have listed component which is team things teams have to design stunned components which POPs increased An Ns the still the transferable ones as well. So that's the things. The teams will use gearboxes In various little bits and then as prescribed components because because these regulations have been defined in a certain manner and there is as an effect the F.. One wants to see it wants a certain output. Therefore everybody's input has got to be the same because that's that's how retains the effects really of these cars are meant to raise close together so that there are a lot more tight boxes. There are a lot more things that teams have to do themselves I think it's quite interesting I can't wait to see how that one plays out especially with will the open source. Pots opened up a little. Bit I I think that's quite good for especially if you've got the same engine supplier and things like that other teams aren't necessarily GonNa want to use certain parts per another team. Might if you have the same engine say I think a little bit of cross pollination. That regard isn't too much of a bad thing. Yeah I think it's Ah It's quite a pragmatic solution. I think because obviously the console suggestion came in in reactions. Having mole A standardized components which of course will end up being heavier put them into might up even more so I think that's a pragmatic a pragmatic solution. There's a few kind of things in the sporting wrecks that were also relates to the 'cause obviously that is greater restrictions on things like dino hours for the engine greater reductions To the winds on on. AFDC Carney and there's a formula takes your win Sutherland Safety Development East for for testing days. So there's a big control over in terms of how much what you can do. That kind of exists within the within the casino they know any further caps in terms of how much at chill testing you can effectively do. which again is that to try and ensure Joel that the biggest teams don't have such a big advantage and that that seems sensible to appoint although you could argue that with the cost gap? Why'd you need other nations on that scholley within you have a cost cap? And that'll flexibility for that sort of thing and if you want to do more Winston were you can if you want. I think I think it is. It's no bad thing. 'cause you do have the maximum restriction but then you wonder how much the smaller teams do anyway in that regard. I'm sure they perhaps do less So footwork twenty twenty one Wind tunnel runs a restricted to four. Hundred An the drop down three twenty and following years safety restrictions have been tightened up so teams are a bit less to work with so. There's a lot lot there A lot for the teams to again get their heads around especially with all of these new era components. They have to to do more with less if you like. So that's quite an interesting one I do agree. We should say on the on the wind. Sun'll thing I figure four hundred. It wasn't that long ago you need to go back just over ten years to points where you'd have teams that would have to win son's running in shifts so for four hundred runs. That's that's not a lot considering how much how much they used to do. So this this is a very very big. And then you've got the knock-on effects that is you're not making so many different parts not making so many different models so they that the knock-on effect today's reduced costs in the window You know having to make as many different bespoke parts and bits and pieces I I do agree the because of the cost cap you can perhaps try to open up making more free than what what cost. Just how much does a wind tunnel. Kosta run How much does the CFD simulation cost that kind of thing what price deeper on that and if the FAA infomercial one that can be very very stringent on this cost cap and auditing every single expenditure? That will each everything makes then. It's it's very very difficult to value that I think so. I understand the need for that. Obviously if teams can't afford to do four hundred than than have to they can put money elsewhere. But I get the I get the point of. I do understand it fairly logical move now. There are a few changes just to the race weekend in terms of Part for now starts in three. What you screen? At the start of the weekend. We should say cheese purpose. They're trying to make the weekend's slightly more condense things that normally happen on the first including media time. We'll be condensed into sort of Friday morning. And then there'll be a couple of sessions Probably a little. It'll be short on the currency ninety minute ones in the often on Friday so they just condensed things because of course that trying to compensate for the fact they have provisions to go up to as many he's twenty four races and if there is a desire to hit that twenty five race figure because that means more income performance and obviously to make more money so twenty five is certainly an objective if they can get enough enough customers so there's also this thing about the referenced specification that will be created at the start of the weekend when it scrutiny which again seems like quite a good mood to stop all this so shipping in of of of light manufactured parts. That's that's been going on for some time. Yeah Ah I think that's definitely definitely a good thing You because Vermeille has been his been moved You now and because of the changes scrutineering do now have to cement. What you're going to run with before you take its roots snaring? You can then do test parts on Friday. But then you can't run them in the right. So you do is more of a Damsel if you have a new part and you're not really sure about that do do you gamble and put it in street and airing and see what happens or do you run in Friday and then maybe save it once. You've looked at the data for the next one so I think that adds a little bit more jeopardy to running an upgrade rather than the relatively low risk all run in practice if it works with Bunga on if not we weren't The changes to the weekend definitely get I didn't think four days when necessarily needed practice sessions. They need to be sure to increase that sort of unpredictability Because how many times we've seen a new practice being rained off or that being a very lengthy red flag period and teams didn't have as much time to prepare for the race and run through endless simulations of qualifying and the race. They don't have have the scope to do that. So she's practice sessions. They have to take off what they want to do. What comes first and what perhaps is a little bit more optional? Do that can only be a good thing. I think personally I would just drop a practice session. You only need one will take stay in reality. won qualifying exams. One race in something like that. That works I think yeah condensing the weekend Stephanie. Could especially if they're they insist on making the countless twenty five races which I I personally don't particularly like yeah I think that's the point why you achieve oversaturation. I think even even twenty one races is perhaps pushing that point where you're asking too much of the audience but equally others will tell you that's more what I like is good more is indeed more now the financial regulations and the cost cap. Let's get a quick summary of that. That's hotline Vega is the F.. One say you'll be limited to spending one hundred and seventy five million dollars per year Nas based on the twenty one race season so there's more races up to the maximum twenty five. You get an extra one million Leeann dollars per rice if it goes below twenty one then you got a million dollars knocked off. So if it's twenty five season in two thousand twenty one year budget caplis Yukos's cap taste one hundred seventy nine million because it's plus for racism there's various mechanisms and exchange rates. If you look through the financial wrecks they've caught the coach change rights for for pounds for euros and Swiss francs of close with the offer Mason Mason Switzerland so it all kind of evens out but Dole is is the is the main is the main currency now that basically covers all of you iphone activities. But there's a long list the things that are exempt from which I'll just give a quick summary of the most important one. So marketing is exhibited driver's test drivers are exempted. There's a few highly paid individuals in the same not council things. I heritage activities. Various taxes non-ethnic activists on included. Obviously then those human resources sources costs financing legal activities property costs flight and hotel costs fees paid to the commercial rights holder. That CPA license costs semes- new SPEC fuels and An oil self seats in the the field lubricant partners Happy pay So there's there's various kind of non-performance things were exempt. But what this does this puts a tight control over happy epic you'll team can be and how much you can do in terms of the actual business of doing work and that there's also mechanisms in the roles saying that the reporting group is your say but if you're let's let's say Mercedes if as any other part of the company that does any work on your behalf feet in sweat thought guests included as well and there has to be a a dollar amount. But I'll know services so the the idea is that this stops you kind of losing costs in other parts of companies if you're if you're a bigger company or a bigger group so it's quite it's quite thorough an in-depth document sort of technical bits in there that that cover it's been it's been well put together there. Some pretty serious penalties as Ross Brawn said in the presentation this has teeth. EKA PAT IT to the results restriction agreement of Decade or so ago which basically wasn't in the end worth the paper it's printed on because people just bust in the end and just what I've been out this. This is a hard line if you break shit. That's a a sliding scale of penalties which can go all the way up to exclusion basically so that that very very hard with this and they're working with Deloitte the accountancy the company's brought outside support. That's going to be a soft introduction. Twenty twenty teams are invited to submit financial. Data has kind of a test case. You can get the mechanisms assumes up and running and they've they've created some bodies as well that will will monitor or less so as as well. It's called a SCAP administration and then there's a cost cap adjudication Haitian panel if anything needs to be looked at so it's it's quite comprehensive framework but it does seem that the cost cap is the most most logical way to stop the runaway spending. Doesn't it so if this document works plant and if you look on dates It's very very indepth from this. This was plenty there if it works then. This could be a great force for good in terms of leveling the playing field. Yes and it's been such a long time. Coming thing is well remember back in twenty ten when they were trying to not two thousand nine rather when trying to get new teams in two thousand nine hundred and they they were working on the provides the they would be restricted to forty million dollars a year or forty million modern remember the dominate denomination. You have their those those. It was a budget cap for teams. Signed up for the kind of tea. So there's a budget cap. Originally teams assigned to the budget cap got certain extra technical benefits. So you can have movable Larry. I got kind of thing so this kate this is to keep everyone happy. You can encourage new teams and UK to keep the teams. I want to spend big happy but of course we you have to size the that didn't happen. New Teams committed. The budget cap. Didn't happen and none of as new teams with us today. So what does that tell you. Approach exactly and it was just the rug being pulled from under their feet really this one as genuine foundation the teams have to now build from and work from It governs everything which is absolutely fantastic. But what I wonder is how long until we get our first I huge large-scale breach of this You say it will the timing football teams like a NI- Manchester City. Oh PSG being pinged for Breaking Financial Fairplay or whatever and that's does various investigations going on like that. How long before we see one team embroiled in a massive massive argument over cost tap? What counts and what doesn't that will be teams now on the phone to very very clever accountants thinking? Okay how do we get away with this. What can we do? We D- I may being cynical. But that's the nature Formula One therapist businesses. Do this. Don't you know yeah. There's there's a reason the phrase creative accounting exists in there are there are people who exists a kind of minimize financial penalties for companies and minimize is tax etc etc.. So there's there's a new two point eight percent you when you're dealing with big and complicated companies you know all looks good on paper. I guess the real test is how easy it is to kind of forensically go through everything and understanding life. A manufacturer team has been sneakily using some drapes submarine other today stuff resolved just by example when When Honda had its team in formula teams had to the fees are actually came from an Era Greek week based on two in Japan? They would just telling days. So how does that show up. If that's just that's just a little group that exists within a wide. Accompany such it. Yeah I agree. That's it's going to be tested isn't it. Because the woman is bound to be but the the interesting thing is I mean extremely skeptical about a cost cap shots. Achy said a similar thing president but he said he's been he's been convinced by the rigor of the documentation is go to work. So let's see if you can keep all the same spending similar amounts of money or at least maximum because let's face it hundred seventy five million alien dollars. There's plenty teams that are operating below that there is an intention to kinda squeeze the budget cap then. Theoretically the the performance potential is defined by all the money on the results you've got and it does greater onto some how clever you can be. That's the hope anyway. Yeah and the thing is we've got these technical restrictions anyway so even if a team is somehow cleverly adding another couple of tens of millions onto their budgets per year. There's only so much you can do anyway with within the bounds of the regulations. So even if you can spend more is that they're all diminishing returns in that regard I'm being overly optimistic but I wanted a cost cap for very long time. No It's difficult to order and I know that it's very very difficult difficult to put into practice. But if one is found away and everybody's on board with it then it can only be good thing rather even if it gets the rules. Get flaunt little bit is surely better to have one than just not at all really. Yeah one hundred percent sonny. Sonny Sonny should be tried and I think one phrase as I think. Ross Perot News during the presentation. He said they had to say the teams from themselves. Because part of this is not is not just about making a level playing field it is about ensuring the F.. One one is sustainable because it seems to get a significant amount of money and yeah it should it should be sustainable. If what makes money we should know. There are a few significant. The things that are not part of these regulations firstly the commercial agreements will excite the renumeration to team. Shall we say so. Currently we know that Ferrari he gets extra money simply for being Ferrari. We say the same the constructors championship owners. Such as say dis right below. Sexual AK- extra money just for what they've achieved the past Williams small Harris payment as well. So this'll be redefined. Did this the next phase now. He's getting everybody to sign up full. twenty-one twenty one m beyond because what used to be called the Concorde agreement really now it's a series of bilateral agreements between teams and and the commercial rights holder signed people. That's that seems signed up and works at work out that mechanism because that's an important thing about China Creighton some Some a policy. The other thing is the titus us. Now there's some there's been some about the Perotti target that's efforts one thousand twenty one but coming back to where we started which is the ability to follow closely etc.. A big how big factor in this has been. This is very very sensitive. The parolee tires. If you start sliding around so much downforce the ties overheat. There's a lot of time management. It goes on and so the ties which after all attach the car to the track of it pretty important if they're not right vacates Tobia mind potentially undermine join a significant part of the impact of these deregulation so these two areas the the the team payments. And that's is that the kind of missing the pieces of the Jigsaw. That needs to be writes all they could really do some damage to the objectives of the of these rural packages. I think Pirelli has gained to have to be the first couple of years at least a little bit conservative. With how it D- formulates its tires than not going to be able to do what they didn't. Twenty eleven and two thousand twelve and create something that is extremely high deck but at the same time the concrete something that's rock-hard and teams can't use so that can be played down the middle. I think not doing anything. To complicate is Obviously needs to have after testing program We usually when that sort of thing happens teams use mule cars and stuff and it's never anything like the real thing but it is an attempt simulation at least so yeah and especially when it comes to doing eighteen inch tires I said with ground effects The eighteen star is something that Pirelli hasn't done before for Formula One so this is new ground for them Obviously it would be safer for next year. Yeah and it's my understanding. The fullness teams will have Thai senses and stuff and that might be able to give Pirelli enough data at the end of the day. They're still different dimensions. Still different tires. And they can affleck's differently because they are wide as they will be there's there's a lot of variables things like flax and tie stiffness and God knows what ty Sciences Real Real Black Ah fuel pardon the PUN. So it's it's GonNa be something I hope it doesn't derail the whole whole thing really done Yeah as I say they'll have to be a little bit conservative in the first couple of years and see how it plays out and if they've got the dates back off and and say Kay we can do to make this better than I'm sure they'll go for it but yeah let's play a little bit safe in the first couple of years I think degree that Syndey. Yeah a lot of onus on Paraly- to get things right and that's something that drivers in particular. We'll be. We'll be lobbying for quite intently. Well so just just to wrap it up your final verdicts overall of the two thousand. Twenty six they they write go far enough go too far. What what's your kind of Marcotte's hadn't for them shall we say I'm GonNa give attentive seven point seven very that happens to be of a laptop in front of me and that happened to be the Cao's looking at a time so there? There is attentive from pregnant such but you know you stick with the status quo and we just get the same as what we have now. Fully one has to try something new the same like the best way of doing it. It Still Formula One. But there's a lot of new things new things for teams drivers and engineers can to to get their teeth into One things are not so keen on the break regulations. For example I think when it comes to things small things tie warmest since they are recognition should have been gone. They've decided to keep them as a few other little niggling bits and pieces attack massively love but the shift Aveiro. The cost cap the shorter weekends. That that will appeals to me. I think personally let's get an A.. Or give it an right over each other. See I mean I. I think that broadly in the right direction I think they could have gone a bit further in some areas. that as I said it's working progress delicate. It's under out of the platform so evolved from so. Yeah maybe I'll give it a six and a half seven something like that. But I'd like to see a bit more. Yeah not not not see better. I think just as a little footnotes one thing in the financial regulations that was Because of human impacts on this with the cost gap there are going to be probably Lee some job losses because as the exempted from the cost gap is any costs related termination accenture of employees for example so there could be a little bit of a human cost for that which is obviously not ideal and when it comes to the the idea of just slashing teams is in that kind of thing we always have to be mindful of. That's that costs about the same time needs to be sustainable because you want it to be sustainable indefinitely and the majority obstacle to continue to exist but yeah yeah. It's going to be huge. Talking Point over the next. Eighteen months went being sale preseason testing U. Twenty one that will say these calls so it's it's now all all about working towards them and and what people can do. So let's let's hope it works. Thanks very much check box a leg for your input and also your very precise number right the regulations. Well we'll come back. We'll come back to you in a couple of years and see whether you're whether you're right but say thanks very much so do checkout also spoke dot come from the latest from the world of Formula One and the rest of motorsport cost this ongoing coverage of twenty twenty one on their ultra magazine out every Thursday and the podcast customizable freak outs every Monday and Thursday. Thanks for joining us. We back saved another old facebook podcast. take a music is six. I am boy. treeline written by Marcus Simmons See soundcloud dot com forward slash treeline news Uh It's cutting into your exercise time. It's stabbing you in the back nine. And it's attacking your peace of mind. 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83: BONUS: Introducing F1 Nation

"He's here now. You know the latest episode of beyond the Grid With Julian. Jacoby has just dropped in these days of covert nineteen lockdown. None of us can get enough Formula One. Which is why I want to point you towards a brand new podcast called F one nation in it. You'll hear me an Alex. Jake's discussing all things Formula One and we even have a word with the big chafe Ross born in the first episode. Here's a little sample free. Ross you've mentioned what your focus is on there. But how is lockdown being from your point of view have you been constantly consumed by meetings or if you had a chance to do something that maybe you would normally have the chance today each? Take a little different thinking about it to be honest some days a pretty full on from the time I got up too late in the evening and also technologists. It's remarkably efficient others as not quite certain tense. Emergency one another the weekends then seemingly different Sir Yeah it's definitely that period of time. Isn't it that we have often Christmas? And before New Year or the older day seemed to blur into one. And if you had a chance to get stuck into your reading pile watch those films. That may be. You've been meaning to get stuck into for years but never got around to. I'm on this. I got some bedside reading my nip at fishing what I have been relaxing with evening is cooking. I enjoy cooking so Roles have been reversed snubbing cooking things as that's my wife just wanting to and if you're GonNa go to signature dish ally barbecuing. That's what I will probably barbecuing low low and slow and so long dishes. I didn't like The weekend before contesting critics flora's over apple would smoke. And that's the thing. So but the engineer comes outta makers temperature stuck into all over the place we also had Lewis Hamilton. This week Speak about the fact that he's feeding a big void by not going rating. How do you think the drive is going to react to this? When some of them have been on their longest hiatus since they were children in laws revolve around racing even in a closed season. Live extract regimes of short break. But you know that seems on engagement with teams where the drive is not tractors. Pretty full on and I think with the team closed Drives appropriate bright little about foam along Econ forget Oli drive there in football because they're passionate about racing. Now they started this youngsters desperate to emulate the heroes and race cars. Enjoy doing that. So that because of the passion primarily Successful lungs have been loaded other benefits. That come with it but I'm sure they do miss it. They'll support these moves of making clearly with the understanding. And so we're going to be done properly. It'd be nervous taken will be done on the correct way. Rosty talk about Drivers Heroes. And just before you go. I'd love to ask you about sustaining. Moss died three weeks ago. A huge loss to motorsport not only to Formula One. Can you just describe stylings? Legacy Fourth Sterling came from an era where drivers drove. Whatever was put under the I used to lie. Houston he could jump for inappropriate greatest victories millennia. And you read Jenkinson's history of that in the story of that. Rice astonishing the fact that he did any of those races. My huge ended it with a style. Approach that presumes old-fashioned that quite frankly but again my uteri and I was fortunate to get the last few years use those Canaan come into races the so I got scenario in his of nuance. Suzy occasion when identify with him. Handsome glorious titles to tell things that should be repeated bouts of show but it had this competitive spirit enemies learn stoller zone gentlemen. Let's think is I'm looking now. The out of the car that Ferrari show we obesity rice in nineteen sixty hours. Fortune invaded by it for years ago. He told many glorious tales of of that car in that period. Those lucky enough. Drive Me Ryan. Good several times so very special experience and he won't be supposed in the way he approached is racing a skills you have. The talent added is very very special man and seventy ways. Have you still got the original radio in that Short Wheelbase Ferrari because when he was winning the one thousand nine hundred sixty tourist trophy at Goodwood? I think he said he was listening to the commentary over the car radio. I'd heard that story and I wasn't sure how does have a radio in it. Which is odd for racing conference in one of the occasions. He drove me at it. I mentioned it to me said absolutely. Oh boy I had it all in the side of the second I could hear. Raymond Baxter giving the commentary on you and my opposition fits changing ties new racist and of course we forget these days with the radio systems. We have attracted is every detail as as it was a what was spectators during all so now whether it's original radio on a C. Say but it's always nice because it's a tree racing cars you see with others the arid Nama since. Id doesn't like that does he? Ross thank you very much for your thoughts on sterling and of course on on everything else. We've talked to you about great to catch up role great to hear from Ross Brawn there. Tom But I tell you what. The as barbecuing skills sounds like needs to account for the paddock on a Saturday night to me. I think that's a great idea. Also quite adventurous. Hobart straight in at the top end. Expect anything Martin not lamb Hogan that rose also what lovely words Abou- Stirling Moss as. Well and that two fifty. Gt Short wheelbase. Go I've seen it actually. It's a beautiful car and also I love the thought of Sterling winning the nine thousand nine hundred sixty t at that race trait. Let listening to Raymond. Baxter telling him where he was on the order and what was going on. It's just it's a great story isn't it is a fantastic give. A job is great to hear from Russ. So if you like what you've just heard please search for F one nation on your favorite podcast APP and please hit subscribe.

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Why Arrivabene got the boot from Ferrari

The Autosport Podcast

47:16 min | 2 years ago

Why Arrivabene got the boot from Ferrari

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That's and joining me today. Sex the latest machinations from Italy. I it's Jonathan noble you enjoy installing off the new year with a big news story. I always love it. Good news throw in the morning. So I properly back to work kicked off about eight o'clock on Monday morning, but but that way than the twiddling thumbs until the cause get going again. It's good old school, formerly one. Isn't it Ferrari for all heads rolling? Exactly. And it's been coming coming for wall. It's been rumored get rooms always swirl around Maranello, but normally a false rain will come at once and disappear and go away. This was coming backwards and forwards in going around. And it's quite until I looked yesterday. What re Mercier Revenie said in December last year when? There were rumors that not tell you. It was gonna leave. If he didn't get his way and his final quote was about his future was a diagnostic me ask Kamya. Larry the big boss. So I think that was there maybe the fest in the change was coming. Yeah. There have been rumblings. I thought for many you're gonna say that Ramos just premature facts, which is one of those annoying phrases that sir is an entirely accurate. Also, joining me Scott Mitchell now, you'll probably wants most active press conference question. Oscar, you gonna miss Areva beneath contributions got the funding new person to to say something for the first time in public with the air or someone who has had to say this one hundred times already. He was every question. You just got the bright. Okay. Let's settle this matter once and for all as well, you could just set it for once. We've not heard from you on this. So yeah, odd character became became more more public as last year went on particularly after Saturday mckanie pasta way didn't really enjoy seeing. And hearing. More from him to be honest. Loose cannon quite aggressive and bye bye bye will accounts is of bullying philosophy that we saw in the media was was reflected behind the scenes as well. Well, this is one of those things, isn't it? So people talk about the media complaining about his conduct with the way in the media did reflect a certain way, he acted in his in his leadership if Rory so I'm I'm sure we'll get into that, sir shortly. So Scott, I mean, you wrote an excellent article comes plus scarlet area in multiple com. Prime explaining why everybody wife Rory had to get rid of him. So what's the what's the summary of that? Why has this happened? Well, when he was hired there was a letter, which are believe John had size of because he he he wrote the story when about why muck not yet she had been sacked before. And why read the been open appointed his successor? And what and he said was that the reason he thinks a revenge is going to be a mega leader is because he leaves in the. Same way as the type of person, he is that's that's those leadership qualities after say, the he's a live or die by the sword. Because the way he was leader is exactly the reason why he's been he's been dumped because he was awesome Italy way too headstrong further position he was in. He was a puppet of Marconi's for for few years by all accounts, the amount of faith that heat he'd lost. Given the fact that he was. Appointed team principal the person he said all this is the guy who's going to do that he was planning on sacking reader, Ben I lost some up mckanie pass away tells you a lot about how far he fell in the eyes of the Ferrari Pickwick, ultimately he's gone because the capitulation of Ferrari's Tonto challenge last year can be traced to a series of areas from driver and team. And that is okay revenge driving the car when veteran slides off the road in in Germany, but by all accounts, you've got driver that's trying to over reach. Whether is not got complete faith in the team will the car you team, that's jittery and nervous. And then you've got team boss who when you have this sort of capitulation of the season goes on the offensive bizarrely in Japan when they had that that that wet tyre decision in qualifying that made no sense attack in the team. And then that continued until the end of the year like he went from a man that looked like he was on borrowed time to a man that was basically just watching his world full around him. Just like firing wildly. Whoever was inside trying to blame. Anyone himself you having the game game changing for noise well with Mercedes and for being so placed at the zero ring era, everything was shifting around rice by rice, and we saw title for the Monday after their defeat in the Belgian gone pre right towards engineers, really encouraging Email telling them that you know, we're not we go up in a position to five Hampshire again. We're not gonna let it slip through gross. We're gonna pull together of got belief in you, a very motivating oppression Taito in Titus deep analysis about management techniques. This winter used psychologists. They look off their staff if the stuff ATar, they send them home. They put them on holiday that that everything they can to lift incremental gains everywhere to improve Friday just goes feeling. There was a siege mentality culture for anyone to make mistakes then against problem where their bit behind the forced to take gamble. Nls because they need to try and do something special that manifest itself in Japan. With the decision to go out on the wrong. Tyres the staff. Qualifying everybody goes on the offensive in public afterwards, and all the big unnecessary mess list. The big problem that. The guy running to say is in the one directly making mistakes. It's all about setting the company culture. Isn't it the way you do things, and that's Z could Sala cool when they went out and wets on joy truck in the qualifying. It just smacks of kind of forcing evenings way. Reaching you need your team to make the right decisions at the ROY time Ola time rather than just trying so hard they seem to rush. Threesome developments cells ads roll back on this is all this over flex slightly. Incorrect approach to managing. It's about getting the best our people and Creighton conditions together. Best out of people which sites I will does seem to be very very good at whereas Riva by his the way, he talks in the media was very very similar supposedly to the way, treat people in private with certain level of concern kind of trying to rule with divine, which which doesn't really work. It doesn't get the best people Cerny not when you go at same very very motivated people who are some of the best of what they do you need to make them have. The confidence to do what they do. You don't need to kind of bully them insert into success, and as the conference to admit when you've made a mistake and go wrong, we saw RCM Seder's. You know, they made a few strategy errors in Rice's. They went when wasn't a perfect season Boyle accounts Burt when they made the mistake chains vows is on the radio to Louis saying Lewis, you know, I put my hand up. I've made the mistake here. And that's a confidence that you can I not Jerry mistakes, and they won't be reprecussions. Whereas Akon imagine anyone furry would have been willing to come straight on the radio MP, so honest, we saw times in Germany when Sebastian was forced to push the heart because he lost so much time sat behind Kimmy when the team should have been straight on token me tug flat out. This is team orders. Sub guys the championship you pull over let him through Rover than kind of dancing around the issue till Kimmy, screamed them and said just tell me what you want me to do a thing ever been was a leader in in tarts alone. There is nothing about his actions actually suggested that he had any decent leadership qualities because. You're he he created this this displaying culture, effectively within the team, and among not surprised that we saw those areas from from Ferrari because I think when we were talking about before at you you described it as it's the things like the the tie gamble in in Japan is an example of a of a race team personnel that filled there they have to reach because you have to take risks to to achieve something big, otherwise, you're going to get criticized for and then obviously that breeds mistakes because take in punts and gambles this call negative. They're very glad ain't to play devil's advocate. He became the principal at twenty fifteen season. Twenty four teams about season twenty fifteen they start winning races sixteen bit. If a seventeen eighteen I've been in title fights. You could argue the under his warts haven't done too badly. I mean yes for exists to win championships. But is there some good? There is even incidental to what's happened. Well, yeah, I'd say that he's not been the the been your straighter all the skater of of that. When when forty. That turnaround from fourteen fifteen nothing I was large because not played a significant part in the improvement of for our is v six turbo hybrid engine, which they go really badly wrong. Will interestingly lots of that grows back to the pressure. D'amato's Emma was putting on the team before the hybrid hybrid. It's archaic keep improving thirteen. So they were late on the fourteenth stuff. They make changes early in fourteen under the regime before Mattie was team principal under Dominica early. It's a change and things and then they were ousted so those changes played play depaz. Well, yeah. So you know, you got been auto playing in a role in the engines are this important, and then you have this phasing in two thousand sixteen whereas going awry for Ferrari, and then mckanie says, no, do you know, what we need to have. We need to have a change to Benito guy really bright him. Mark a couple of key moments where each each show, the the he was he was really warm into banal. So as as a as a future leader. So he then moves from you suddenly got these engine guy being put on overall technical charge of the car. It's not an ever been. Vision and is not an Areva Benet. So of doing doing anything to do with the decision to put an auto in a more influential position, and then also executing that properly that's what then spot that seventeen eighteen turn around. So no real wonder that when he sees. But also a guy that he's put faith in before producing the goods, you get last summer when McCain's may be thinking, okay, not really convinced with the way this go in anyone's right out. And he wants anyone's been on obviously, sadly passed away last summer, but shows the the extended influence wisdom of the man that even in even in death. He's always way. And it's one of those things that you had a situation where it became quite polarized between Areva and Benneteau became clear, they can own if you ever been let's say once Marcio niece step back, and then and then passed away the police the best thing ever been done is really teamed up with but also properly and said, right? Actually, let's we both. We can both know what we're doing. Let's really double damper seem to turn into the old Maranello thing of politics, powerplays engage. Seems everything's off. Once Marchetti died in revenue was became more vocal speaking a lot more still how to type to look down with the media when with do the bare minimum to to help an assistant communicate which would be a monstrous problem if that didn't reflect all the problems behind the scenes like that I have to speak to philosophy scale thing. What was significant was the when he stood up? He was trying to strengthen his position within the same rather than unifying everybody in pushing on trying to push forwards. It was notable. The after Sebastian's mistakes in the middle phases season costly than the team errors prove. So Kasey was strategy that then start pointing things been also in the lack of progress on the car when actually the Cosby, you know, that one of their main strengths over the past two years in all teams of ups and downs with cod developments in nineteen gets one hundred percent perfect when they had a slight stumble. Little bit disingenuous of Riva Bank to stop points of ING and laying blame elsewhere for this being the reason why they didn't win the championship. Obviously big part of it now is gonna be whether or not the Reeperbahn a not just getting rid of involves who they've chosen to to replace him because been auto excellent technical person on the engine side. Then he stepped up to the challenge of them being overcharge charge of the team on the technical sites. Okay. He's met that challenge being team principal Ferraris or you rank quite Holly absolutely someone who knows furry inside out when he took over from James Allison in the summer of two thousand six led the engine parliament few people were skeptical about wise or someone who understands engines being in charge of trying to take on Sadri new Mercedes and coming up with the best chassis. But but also as an organizer in the kind of Ross Brawn mold it doesn't design the parts themselves next. Exactly what toys needed. What has needed? How to get the best out of the people? He's he's writing he had a very. Much horizontal structure the louder genius often the youngster to fail unshackled from having to port star. Try and take credit allowed innovation to flourish in for years and years furry that was very cautious conservative design all-time scare to do stuff. Now. The last two years you had the, you know, the side pod design. They led the way on the Holly mirrors led the way on the double battery system. They led the way on even some of the oil burning activities or printed gray area, but they've been pushing innovation and that's been a key factor in as the semi Mattia understands. Get the best out of the the stuff. You've got us the simulation tools. Take the data analyzer and activate that the best cost possible. Essentially by the comparison, sir. Supermac Gary Anderson, our technical editor of series, Santa Clarita and one for a long time. He says he'd often being the technical working group meetings Ross boomer being sailor Ross wouldn't be the guy who had everything in his mind about what caused and Gary generally work. Hume's militans been off person. He is with bells on just about any question about the coverage was not able to do that. But that's not negative because if a question was asked the record something specific from the same Valerie, make a phone call speak to the guy who knows understand what was going on and report back. So there's no pretense of all I'm gonna pretend the about this and play the game. Whatever it's not to me was posted wrongs respect for the skill size of the personnel and specialists, and that kind of thing not seeing to call it you'll you'll kind of referencing that the bullets respect. What people don't understand what later you're nowhere? Your knowledge here in charge of it's not your job to make the car, and you have to not take credit rate some of the credit management. But really understanding what your job is your your that's managed down with not just to keep above you. Happy the orchestra conductor. He's not the he's not the person plays guitar best the drums the best of the best the Trump at the best. He's the one who knows how best to execute each of those musicians. To come up with the best end product. And that's very much. What not a does? You know, the games change the the days of one man designing a car knowing all the different elements. They've long-gone used the cause now so complicated. Same different factors that you need this Mazda, minus overseeing lots of stuff to to hold it together. Even if I don't necessarily have the full knowledge of everything that's going on. But you need to know that these people giving them the answers, and this is why ultimately keeping Benneteau much more important than than keeping some benefits. Choose between the two because been auto has what responsibility for hundreds of employees Maranello, and he spent the last two years working out and understanding how to get the best out of them. And because of his prior experience he has a good understanding of how to get the best people in slightly different apartments. Ultimately been the top overall responsibility of that he doesn't know he doesn't under the inevitably showed that he was ever going to be that person. Understood those needs would get would get the best out. Whereas. Benneteau is is proven that he can can do that. But also as interesting case because thing he's the only team principal among the people in that role who comes from what you might call appear technical background often now seat nickel X's moving into the same principle roller. All people with a technical background. He come in with ROY racing backgrounds. The that's quite interesting. We've been outside. Economy's vasko. But who is reason to believe he'll be good? When it comes to understanding, the political part job, dealing with the commercial soy release other areas. It's it's not a transferable. Skill to rethink but your control. I think what will be important is the Louis Larry in John can give material support he needs in terms in these areas where he's no expertise, you know, he understands you have to pull a car together. He understands how to lead people in the management of people to to lift the operational side of things they can execute this car engine package, much better. He doesn't have experience of the commercial aspects in terms of bringing the sponsors on. When entering the intense phase of political discussions now as we head towards the twenty twenty one rules, which Q intensive rec- tighter. Wolf has a lot of time spent trying to deal with all their starting important that. Elkin and cameraderie donate Matair with some of these areas of destruction. Whether he's got someone else in to assist to take charge or take it on themselves is something both. I think don't think they'll expect Mattia to be leading the charge in terms of framing the twenty twenty one engine and chassis regulations. You know, the best way possible because that's something that needs to operate at a much more senior level. It does suggest the fella reports of them that they understand the weakness in terms of getting the best I of same Santa Sannikov racially not needs to be tackled supply said he's the guy to do that. And then he'd hope play. Then said, right. How do we give him that that support for these other areas? He's not familiar with. I think one element is very interesting there and is very important. There is a thing we understand that the the this this decision and wanting to go with Benneteau ivory, Ravenna has come from Elkin rather than malaria been a few whispers in in Italy. Apparently, the may be come Larry isn't one hundred percent set of what is rose going. To be. And so how how long is for that floor f- world. But obviously before last summer, you have any who is doing everything he was puppeteer in in the background, it the one of the big factors on how auto goes about his job wore here's responsibility over and how well he can do job freedom is given to to work to his his best rings is probably going to be how that relationship above in works because having those two that role split the president. And the CEO row is gonna be okay. Well, who has influence is going to be a power play between those two is coming ever going to be moved aside any point light. He is going to be subject to a much more complex working structure above him. But then again, not always in the puppet. The revenge was when it was fine for this be one person pulling the strings because only who was the man with a plan. He had the ideas and read the Ben affectively just his mouthpiece on the ground. So very different work in dynamical thinker in the upper echelons of arena about Benassar as well. Not just in the team. Prince Perot postive thing as well. As the knowing how we works and turn if they'll be plenty of people working say, we happy to this changes happen. That's that's the key thing be the people kind of on the shop floor on the ground. He's reactional beer. There'd be many who think you're all. He's gone us. That's a shame. So that probably says something doesn't it the they been also guy that the people working in the same as well can get behind. And if he's allowed to do what he needs to do with the other stuff being taken care of and that could be very positive for Ari. Well on his decision might for competitive reasons for our needs. Once probably has to win a world champs full twenty twenty one 'cause everything will be reset. When these new rules come in. It's gonna go paternity next season rebels. Switch two hundred probably packing them back a little bit at the beginning. Renai probably aren't going to be strong enough to fight for world championship. Yeah. And you can't really see anyone else in that midfield up stems stepping up sixty another head to head with Mercedes. They've had the chassis best engine for phases of law season is no reason why that when flow over into next season. This is our opportunity. They've got a shot the man in the they think can make. Sunny, monitor. I'm really talking about getting the team operating maximizing the potential of the car if done that last year if that imposed team orders in Emuza said would have got would have been very different psychological approach at that. Phase points lost later on the season fade just need to step up. Nothing. Mateo can make those small changes that will make the difference. I think Sebastian as said coiffure times that he considered the most significant part of Freud's recent history to be twenty sixteen when those changes happened on the scenes in the created this better working environment at Maranello itself. So the coproduction production everything worked better is more in sync. I it was obviously high quality because of challenged Mercedes the last two seasons. But that was when but also appoint point a nickel. Exactly. But what the way separates is. They've done that like it's not that the fun of the fun of step is obviously hardest because you need to make. The transition into race not just a race winning team. But taught to winning team we know how well Mercedes works and the investment and instructor that went into making the last five years possible. But but in Sebastian's is in very true for rehires under already undergone the significant change it needs to. So the big things have already happened. That's why we're now in a position where been auto can take charge. So now, it's gonna be absolutely crucial for our easy implementation of that. So it can make that that fun step. The that's what caused it depends. How you look under the Ben that fun of step lock. It was never going to be taken because ultimately season fell away the same as it didn't twenty seventeen with we've been auto that that fun of step looks a little less daunting, which stood against Bisco. We have seen far well in a title fight. But ultimately come the Fauntleroy season on the periphery now and outside of consensual in a bit more detail, we'll do thing but also needs needs to term. And you've made it clear the doesn't eat revolution by. Stretch imagination. We know we can make good car. Good concepts. Good ideas. They can execute races. Well strategic apron mostly decent. Few slip starts to come in. Well, I think for our able already done one of the major things by removing Areva Ben inputting someone bettering challenge. Because now I think I think Sebastian will now be more as especially in a season where he goes in with the the young hotshot alongside the class. This was going to be a really high pressure season. And it will still be pressure for for veterans to respond to little challenge. But we're in an environment that he will almost certainly trust better than he has for the last couple of years on I suspect you'll see of higher level veteran than we saw in those weak moments over the last two years, and I think also job will be not to deviate from his management style. Will the way he's worked with people in the past? So the racing members of on the ground that he's responsible for not the engineers back Maranello. So have that same of confidence when they make decisions. They're making decisions are on ROY. Side of that that knife agent or not becomes of like non educated. Guess concern? Less of this for gamble than we often for our at times last year. Suddenly aggressing vessels buffoons. Interesting barometer. Yes, he made mistakes law season and has to take responsibility for that fell. Germany mistake team. Is there is to say, right? Yep. Made a mistake. But no problem. You're the guy we've got confidence near he seems eighties doing this with with Lewis as well on your struggling a little bit early in the season. They said we want to go car. I mean, I probably will be fine is kind of that confidence, and ultimately vetting. Nothing's radicchio Germany mistake. Once it happens. He said it smallest I with consequences. But that it seemed to be signs of distraction as well. Remember was sparring qualifying when he came into make quick tar change. And they were saying don't do that. You're the floor is all just this sense of panic. But you just want everybody to become and that's what we're say does seem to be. He's a he's an engineer is calm rational sensible person. He's not. Gonna be excitable. And we know Vata Liz is somebody. He does like emotion. A lot of emotion come into is driving rebel everybody to keep under control. So that for me is is a critical thing. Can they keep vet'll in the operating window is a good test? If if Benassar can reshuffled things and give the staff the focus and confidence to execute rice weekends as perfectly as they can there were times had Mercedes on the ropes. You know, you look at posts British Grand Prix are cool. You know, the the feeling was that this is far as champion now. Well, post bar it looks looked good for them as well. So they were phases where Mercedes were on the ropes, and they looked like things were we're heading Marinelli's way in they stumbled in didn't happen for various reasons some set some team. So if not I can make sure those those weekends were at can win the team does win econ allow another repeat of Monza. An appoints wise. It wasn't a dramatic swing casino separate covered and came back up the. But psychologically, it was a huge blow expose weaknesses depressing for the team lifted Mercedes capsules. Yeah, it was it was it was psychologically, the most probably the most significant Mayan buffing the Singapore performance for Mercedes. They were probably had the confidence if deploy monster when they're stronger in the cod liver. So if not I can make sure those those weekends are executed at one hundred percent they've done the difficult. Bit live come up with the good car. They come up with a good engine. They've got to fantastic drivers. Next season will be under a bit more pressure. Maybe when he's under pressure. His game will be lifted as well. I'm sure Charles is going to do a fantastic job as well. And lift the points and take more points away from Assayed is. Ingredients there just needs the final boxes to be ticked to turn turn that potential into silverware. Well, awesome say the obviously since Cincinnati's Burt yesterday just morning as we say now of there's been lots of lots were in about a wreath benign Johnny wrote something for all to plasma its prime on on Benneteau. But of lots of people have been writing about in red for quite nice, turn of phrase from longtime footman, Mark marquees. He the way he puts. It was the way the way he will not I did in the background. And what we've been did in the foreground basically move in by the middle of last year. And last year you had the best car on the grid been run by the worst team and may be signed for our it was the west race team of twenty eighteen is is a bit of a stretch that is his alma heading tons of the main area the Panatta needs to improve. It's one of those things. Also is the pressure bills out the first off season fraud was pretty pretty well. Very very Good Friday to Saturday. Day simulator work Saturday. They were making big strides from from Florida Saturday, but then kind of things get more serious. So you think that's tested Mercedes advantage of well loss, your Vons? You're having four previous seasons of dominance to fall back on. So it is easier. If you've been there done that in the immediate past just to say roll, we'll just keep doing what we're doing this work before. But that that kind of that that's where the kind of being battle-hardened and being championship when he seems really Don when it start when the precious starts to build up, you don't buckle under pressure is quite easy early in the season because you know, win win the Spanish Grand Prix race forever. Twenty one Lloyd more opportunities. But when his rights fifteen sixteen seventeen and the really precious eligible must that's where been also needs to instill at commerce, and you need need to like a racing team or everybody hadn't come hadn't had a background of coming from a racing team. And you need to being sponsor is romanticism about what one is, and what motoracing is and what the fans want to see in, you know. Remember when he first joined went in the Boston test. You assign the grandson Sarah angry about the way the fans are being treated and four. I'm gonna do my little protests stunt up here. So he looked like a man who's gonna bring showy. Yes. He like a man who is going to do positive things for the sport because. Yeah, this view, but then that view didn't fit in. Well, we were racing team. This fighting against the might have Mercedes. We know the pain total wolf went through imposing team orders on Veltri potus. The sleepless nights the anguish, in fact, he hates doing it. But if you wanna win in Formula, one yoga meet left with moments where you you're gonna have to disseminate that goes against remind schism of the sport, you're gonna have to be hard. You have to Klis you're gonna have to do something maybe like doing. And I think that's where the difference between a Panatta type is racing background. We'll do we'll execute and doing some like a revenge. He wanted to do the right thing. Like Monza having his drivers race, which is automated the wrong thing. I think if you look at also he's minute for always ninety four. Five always working on engines for a long time. So he's been nicer huge amount of of success and failure understands that he will know the kind of case studies from the past and the thing that should allow to be this passionate about about this kind of thing ends one of the things if you're leading team you do to make difficult decision. So it's I was not happy about what you had to do to us in Russia. He really didn't wanna do it. And he saw the mistake was going in the into the rice with his Carinthian ideal of not doing it. But then realized when the race situation was actually now we've got we've got to be called on this. And he didn't do it locally. But sometimes that's why you have to soft decisions. Well, the last few years for hours just look like a team. Even when they're in a good position. You saw of LA back your Yemenis offing, right? How they're gonna Bush this like what's going to go wrong. And. Is is such a far cry from the from the John Todd era when especially of the two thousand six thousand four when it was just like it was relentless. It was just can't stop this freight train to juggernaut. And what's interesting to auto is the as technical person for our he was awfully effectively schooled by Ross Brawn watching how he managed things. And obviously given how long he's been before he was there during the Todd glorious. He saw where however closely paid attention to ABC's only hill, but he knows what it's like being the team that is run that way knows the benefits, and it's difficult to think that given what he was exposed to from his early years in fraud read that didn't play a role in why he ended up being technical leader. He's proven spin. That's what gives me some confidence as well that he will he will transition into being raised team leader in in the same way on a special so else need some things that ruined. Remember reading the book brawn with Adam Parore title competition. Think is called while with reading some really Tippett's about when bra. I know he was amazing. He was amazed. That press clippings will be distributed around Maranello each day which Donald fail in recent years. The regime has been a bit its way there's similar Tena Asli been not being concerned about media that much at all. But also being really worried about about what the Italian media saying says is bizarre imbalance going on that. But that is what needs to create the focus. We know for all the pressures and tons, but he's got some make fraud. He just be another very good rice thing, not the Ferrari, politically charged environment that has been at times. That's what John talk managed to do. Very very, well, you can't argue the success. Incidentally, taught wasn't exactly the best friend of the media when he was running for Ari slightly different wiper. He sometimes we all could went answering questions is ROY. He's John that the throughout out. So it doesn't necessarily mean the. It's just have to be nice to the media to do. But it's about the way you manage in lead internally. The meat is also about. Playing the message and using it as a tool if you have a strategy where you type block out the media and then get upset when the media writing wrong things about you. You can't can't have it by ways really say you ever open communication doors use it, you know, put pressure Mercedes, if you're leading a campaign, or some leaks and stuff that actors destruction force, you know, this can help in champs battles our member middle of two thousand I think it was two thousand six can Frankel from someone just to simplify simplifying call to set mass dampers, and that was it, and I didn't know what was going on start digging. And they need a whole exposed about. What Renner had been up to you know, these tools of teams to put pressure on their rivals. Because all does matter and more is as much as teams, I it doesn't matter was read in the press. It does matter was written in the press. 'cause you know, how the the funds are engaging. How people perceiving your team? How your? Teams perceiving because I'm sure people inside for Ari. You know, they will read what's been written on the internet. They will read what's in the newspapers. They will see what's on television. And if that message is in the correct message, if you're being criticized for stuff that, you know, isn't happening inside your team, and your boss isn't doing anything trying to dress that and help you out that I think you'll feel a bit undermined. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only certain thirty or fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. License an dates analyst number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply. We have talked about the long term you mentioned sold. Accenture Joan probably temp she successes ROY can back in two thousand seven lost. Scrambles year off to that. So in the in the show until they ever we've had Dominica he was in charge for that successive close to the drives titles. Well, then Malcolm Chee mature overnight. None of them have chief anything approaching will Jones was able to do. So looking backwards a little bit in terms of what has been also can learn from from the wide, you think this has been so difficult. Nobody's expecting for always win five concise back toback the Vikings as a double championships necessarily, but you expect regular drip feed of titles. Well, I mean, like they came close in the Alonzo era, tendons wells. Yeah. I mean, they could you know, if a butterfly flaps his wings in Brazil, something and then the whole day would have turned out differently. Infant undo could have been two championships we reflect on the things differently. And then when he don't win the championships the pressure to win the next one increases even more than make things even more difficult against scenario where not winning makes it. Harder to win. Not what Lonzo era led to the issues in fourteen that you mentioned which they they turned around and the Friday now, the far we see now the helping philosophy seasons probably as strong as being since the end of the Dominican area probably stronger than it was during the Alonzo era. Just missing that that final step on his head. The maybe misfortune to come up against a Mercedes team. That's probably one of the best we've seen in from the one in terms of benchmark engine benchmark chassis benchmark operation that I make that many mistakes. And they realized that if they are gonna win there needs to be perfect. Bronze put it in the past the end of last year that when you don't win Ferrari, especially when you've been in the position to in the way, he put it was that you face basically national question in Italy. Like, you get he said you get condemned finishing second basically so working without pressure each year individually, obviously going be very very difficult. When you have this was decade-long Tautou drought. Now, we eleven years at the end of twenty nineteen human if they actually win something that just mounts as like he's like that pressure to the power of ten so I have sympathy for the people that put in charge there because your is completely. A completely different environment to work and then being in charge of Williams. Oh being in charge of report even run out with something because it's such a national issue. And we. Benneteau is delay is going hotseat. He's now the the solution to the problem. But that's what we've been. I was a few years ago. So. Who say we can't we can't know how it will turn out. But I think there are more fundamental more substantial reasons to be positive for our either gonna go back to where they were fifteen twenty years ago rather than soldiers repeat the cycle of the last ten years. It's interesting here, the the culture there was a piece that ran in in racing and Ronald later on sport, plus moist comprising, boy Ma Gallagher used to be jeweled that goes with so keep the culture difference as competitor Mercedes very much. You hate the mistake. But not the person making it you transact. Let me yes. Sometimes you have personality don't fit in. But for always had this kind of scapegoat mentality. Mchugh springs months when he ten see the strategy cool in Dhabi that Alonzo reacting to Weber's pissed off because they basically strategically they had slightly disregarded battle. They were focus too much on weather and then battle and the rights on the title, not let Krystal being ousted. Yes. Oviously? Stressed us with nice to him buck RAV and trying to correct the problem. They Chuck someone out we saw later on trying to Monaco's Costa denounced it which would have been eleven we talking. I forget I forget my years. But Costa was was jumped out so viciously you'll make it custom tentacle. Well, he's been absolutely insecure to what Mercedes that. So you have to ask. Well, if you're just picking out individuals. That's that's dangerous scapegoating, the blame culture. And this is kind of you could save. Will blaming everybody's rubber? We've been seemed to kind of Finn with that that that that's playing culture rather than tackle. The problem, you seek the plane, and then that ultimately seen as you look towards that you got people trying to avoid the blame rather than just saying, right? There is hair his how we prevents happening happening again. We're back to what I said earlier about James vows having the confidence to come on the radio and say Louis, I messed up we made a mistake, and the no he's gonna be I know he's not going to get because I'm sure if you know that being Ferrari in that thing that happened in the lost the race win because of it, you know, things would be would be pointed. And I'm sure the Italian press we much more aggressive in terms of you need to make this change to stop this happening. But that's not the way from one works. If you look, you know, he Mercedes taken bulled out of Costa came from Ferrari, James Allison came from Ferrari, they take people who things haven't worked. Elsewhere. And I've got the best out of them. So that's one. One of what type type will is done at Mercedes is very similar to what my tear needs to is. He got quality people understand the sing your job is not to punish people. They make mistakes. You'll job is to extract the best every individual also valuing the contributions of your life. You're almost saying beside he's in a position to accept so many Wednesday race in years, but we seen also people going up on on the podiums constructor's trophy here. Normally, they wouldn't be the office paper on his team principal technical the rats. The the engineer spreading around. It's kind of recognition that actually all your department's contribution to each other. You can it's a technical excise unique money for the exercise you need pay. All in all kind of feeds into yourself is out. So virtuous circle is not guess that's Frawley needs to to Bill because the ingred the raw materials over this. If we got about to the end of the day of the Roman tables of always been the heavenly never lacked for never never but never liked budget. There's. Phases. Where they've they've struggled in scenarios like the engine in twenty fourteen. The winds on the mutations. I, but I work through that. Yeah. But they've they've gone for air as they've now on the the peak of their climb up top thin are need to make sure that back climb goes on for another season, another not seasons, and they deliver to their best 'cause they will be there will be a time where the Mercedes slips back a bit. And it's not going to be easy think when they face serious problems Mercedes. Then it'll be more of a challenge is quite easy to take the. Behind mighty when you've won championships and say, this is the best way to do. It is very different to react in talk about management strengths. When you've finished second lost a championship. So it'd been interesting phase when that Mercedes era does come to an end wherever is next season is twenty twenty one twenty twenty five twenty thirty. But at some point, though, they'll be there will be a dip because this is the nature foam. Just got your final verdict. What does this mean for the the seasons? Come and. Is it all Pacific? Roy does this main the the should make for a more formidable title contender Ashim as good enough this year, I think even though its inherent instability. Because you've got a major change at the top not quite an even the season bitter or the star of the year is change that I would imagine what's going to have an immediate short and positive impacts because you can have a much more relaxed environment. You can have a much so happy motivated environment is result. And then once we get to stray Rama's, you should see immediately change atmosphere. He won't be that tense nervousness in the in the Gare Joel or in the pit lane. So I think it will steady the Ferrari shape, obviously, we don't know what impacts taking him away from the technical stuff will have on the development of the nineteen car once his Bill hit the track. But I think it's a positive move for the medium and long-term at the very least shouldn't have short term negativity attached to it. What do you think if you're a Mercedes which a little bit worried that this is gonna make them even more formidable of seventeen and eighteen or successively described as Mercedes biggest challenge so to this mean for always gonna be one step up again? I don't think thing to say it is wars enough not to worry too much about what other people are doing management changes on one side, the very much focus on what they can do the things they can influence not allowed complacency to creep in there was pushing to fund their own improvements. Elsewhere in anything they decline influence what Freud doing, but I think they'll they'll probably realize now that with a re many on the chances of the mistakes opened the door while they're a strong they'll need to lift their game. And it's one of the things on one that when you suspect your opposition is stronger you lift your own game. So we'll listen willa stronger Ferrari manifest itself in producing an even stronger Mercedes to to cope. Is one of the, you know, these things always ebb and flow. And so is intended consequences strengthen your team 'cause the end that is a few finds one second of performance or you know, pretty fifteen races. If you rival as found one point five seconds and make sure they're pulling all of them. Be fascinating to follow. How it how it pans out the season? I think we will hoping for a slot. More formidable for all relatively speaking. We want to get that championship fight down to down to the last race in strong for always is good for Formula one. Well, it's all split dot com. For the latest news on formula count. 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98 - Australian GP Prerace 2020

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98 - Australian GP Prerace 2020

"Get All crosses a frog in a sock. The road tribes of arrived so chuck a sticky and crack ontinue. Because everybody's got a fair shake at the sauce bottle. I can't deal with this whole season of this. There's no way I'm going to save money already canceled. Messiah I have one gas about speed racecars that by the way is Australian for. Don't be upset. The trucks have arrived so take a day off and open a beer. Because everyone's got a fair chance to win. Well happen on his true. We are going ahead with a race but you know. I guess we'll see I have to stop. I have to find another term. That's not when the rubber hits the road because I keep. It's an accidental idiom. Well we will see after this weekend. How close the puck truly is okay. That is Danny O'Dwyer drew scanlon. Also joining US ROB's acne. How are you rub ready to go racing so ready? I feel like time has slowed down. Were just it's there on the distance? It's not getting any closer but time does march on we will eventually get to the Grand Prix. I could not be more excited if you are new to this podcast. Welcome to this crazy circus. If you're a new Formula One itself we recommend listening to our preseason primer episode just a few episodes old which are soums no prior knowledge and gives the lowdown on how this works and who everybody is so if you WANNA go back and listen to that episode ninety six also. This show is supported entirely by audience at Patriots DOT COM Slash Shift F. One where every month we release bonus podcasts about documentaries and films on Video Games Primers for the recent series and a lot of weird stuff. So if you'd like to support the show and get access to all that head a patriot dot com slash shift f. one or click the link in the show notes Danny Patriot update for us. Yes sir I mean. We've been talking about for the past couple of weeks past couple of months kind of figuring out what we're going to do this year whether or not we're GONNA do the same as last year. Or Mix it up at in new flavor We're doing the latter. We're going to have an answer in the next couple of days as check our twitter youtube channel for that as well but The sort of under on it is that the regular thing. We've always done which is having loads of bonus podcasts. Every year every month an extra podcast for a patron's only at five dollars. We're GONNA keep that at Bo. We're GONNA make a new Tier. We're going to be adding a bunch of video stuff as some kind of you know people who've been with us for a long time. We were doing stuff before. Would video on on this podcast. Willa. It'll be similar to that. Perhaps we're going to keep a lot of this stuff public on our youtube channel and Maybe we'll have some extra bonuses in terms of places where people can chat all speaking. Not Very vaguely but There'll be an answers on this Pretty soon we're we're trying to hit that one thousand patron mark because we did promise. If we hit it as patrons we'd we'd get together and go for a race on a real circuit in a real car. Well I mean we'll race real car. I'm not sure if we're able to race all three of us at the same time. That's that's sort of the dream. We're at about eight hundred twenty or so. I'M GONNA have to start doing research on that. 'cause I don't actually know how to do that all I know is I think they'll let me drive my Mustang on Saana on certain times. Okay of the year so fingers crossed. Maybe can all jump in that one and just pay for a new pair tires from your something there. You Go All right well today. We'll be discussing the upcoming Australian Grand Prix. But first we've got a fair bit of news that we have not hit Ferrari's engine seems to have caused quite a bit of a stir. Rob You've been reading up on this a little bit vague star. Well now it's not just an engine issue. It's a F one issue. It is an issue with the relationship for our is generally had with the sports governing bodies and the way other teams tend to view that relationship so I think last time we discussed where things left off which was that the FAA Ferrari came out with a kind of weird statement. Which was that? The matter is closed. They had reached confident. A confidential settlement and as part of that Ferrari was going to help the F. One figure out how to monitor fuel mix and engines and which was kind of weird like I think we talked about. It seemed like something very close to an admission. That Ferrari had done something illicit if not necessarily illegal that F. One wasn't happy with and as part of the deal Ferrari was going to help them. Close the loopholes as well as deal some like offer some other terms So in the past week A number of teams seven F. One teams Signed a statement of protest about the confidential Or over the confidential deal and the issue seems to be the. The teams are pretty much recent inclusion. We did which is that. They're convinced something happened with How Ferrari handled fuel-flow last year and the reason they're so convinced is because they pushed like it is other teams complaining that pushed the FAA to investigate what was going on with the fuel flow in the Ferrari power unit and this all happened last year. When Ferrari had unbelievable straight-line speed and they seem to have an incredible amount of pace. That engine just seem to be unbeatable and then the complaints came in and then the Ferrari engine began to look less dominant and it was the teams themselves. The start pushing for this investigation and so I think coming even coming out of last season. The teams were pretty. Well certain that there was something Sort of against the rules against the spirit of the roles. That Ferrari had done With fuel-flow Shenanigans. Yeah and it seems like their reaction to this deal struck between the FAA and Ferrari was kind of not necessarily the straw that broke the camel's back but it was a it was one of those things that this has been such a long standing sore point for a lot of other teams and F. One that immediately they went from zero to sixty right they were. They were immediately passed Basically McLaren Mercedes racing point red bull Renault Alpha Centauri and Williams whether they have in common. They don't run Ferrari engines. They said we. The teams surprised and shocked by the statement of Friday twenty February regarding inclusion investigation into the scooter. Ria Ferrari Formula One power. Unit in international sporting regulator has the responsibility to act with the highest standards of governance integrity and transparency there months of investigation that were undertaken by the FAA only following queries raised by teens we strongly object the FAA reaching confidential settlement agreement. The Ferrari to conclude this matter Therefore we hereby state public shared commitment to pursue full and proper disclosure. Better new show the sports streets. All competitors fairly equally It'd be for the fans participants and the stakeholders up one. That last part look come on like come on like you didn't have a fans fans are used the shit. Don't worry about for the house anyway. Yeah that's very like a moralizing. High touch them right. This is politics and I think what this comes down to. Is that a lot of formula. One governance has involved reaching. Will you call like gentlemen's agreements You know behind the scenes that was certainly the Bernie ecclestone a model that is kind of for shockingly longtime that is how business was conducted in Formula One But nobody has the moral authority. And the control. That Bernie had nor are a lot of the people that Bernie did business with a lot of the wheeler dealers. A lot of them are gone now too and I think the entire thing is a bit more on like is at least tried to be on a more Professionalized footing. And so that's kind of a sign of the Times. It's funny. I am a kind of a little bit surprised about Vega. You know everything has been considering like this sort of you know. Ross brawn has been quite Openness you know the problems with the sport and the way they went about fixing them and like even when we're getting dancer the the you know conversations around how the money was being split off like stuff was pretty transparent in a way that we weren't really used to and a lot of this just see like we don't really know it you get the feeling when you read the the story when you read the letter that they wrote and also the FAA's response that like everyone knows what they're talking about but nobody's saying yes. Yeah I mean the FAA even said in their statement as a response to the teams writing this letter. This is their own statement. The FAA was not fully satisfied but decided that further action would not necessarily result in a conclusive case due to the complexity of the matter and the material impossibility to provide the unequivocal evidence of a breach. So they themselves are like we know something was going on. But we couldn't prove it so that I guess is why they settled confidentially. I don't know it does a non-confidential settlement mean that Ferrari would have had to expose some proprietary technical stuff is that maybe or if even if they say like if they if they put a name to us then it becomes material if they say what it was then suddenly everyone will say. Oh that's what we're doing and then maybe there might be recourse for you know a lower team to argue that they should have gotten second or something like that. I like. That's the only thing I can think is that that it's messy and by by talking about or saying what they think was going on or what they they. They're pretty sure what's going on. It's as bad as saying that's what happened in many ways legally. Yeah they can't prove it the theory that Dita rankin over race fans dot net Proposed via the source proposed Rankin Was that Ferrari was running oil-based inter fluids And the seep into the fuel mixture under pressure And basically give you a little boost to engine power So I guess that like that is the theory as to what the new technology with the loophole was that Ferrari was exploiting But it does sort of seem like the teams that dimed out for Ra. Basically know what happened. everyone's pretty clear about like what was transgressed and everyone's upset that nothing was really done about it especially because this is this is the other part of this if you go back to the history of the sport would last like fifteen twenty years the FAA can be incredibly draconian with other are Friday right. Like you don't have to go that far back What was it a one hundred million dollar or one hundred million Euro fine against McLaren for a transfer of technical knowledge that a lot of people feel was pretty innocuous and it was largely Ferrari making a big deal out of it that Gut McLaren you know the basically the elected the F. One equivalent of the Electric Chair That year and so that's the other thing is there's always this double standard with Ferrari right with Ferrari. It's still old school. F One Ferrari F one F. One is whatever we whatever we do We mustn't upset the Maranello operation Everyone else you better keep your nose. Clean you to play by the rules. Ferrari you know they have a direct phone line to God and I think this was the in like this is just another case of that sort of being codified and teams are sick of it and I don't. I don't know what the FAA was supposed to do here a short of you give Ferrari a massive penalty You you open it up and let everyone see what's going on Which doesn't seem unreasonable. But this is a thing that only engineers really would have understood. I don't know how would have played out if If they had done that in fried appeal the decision. There's a sort of related issue not well unrelated issue but the same sort of thing happening in the run-up to to Australia here. Red Bull has and this is how this this works right. It's not like I mean the. Faa does have inspections but typically what happens is one team will notice something about another team and then not say that. Hey Faa Mercedes. Doing something wrong. They'll say hey. Faa what's what's actually the rule here like in this weird. Do this right. Yeah so toby gruener a reporter at Auto Moto Sport ooh In Germany says that Red Bull has questioned the legality of Mercedes rear brake ducts. The reacted by sending out a new technical directive. Td Zero one four slash zero to clarify. What is allowed? This forces Mercedes to make modifications to avoid trouble at Melbourne. They can keep their weird airplane driving wheel. Oh Yeah for sure okay. Well that's because they talk the directly and boy wouldn't it be embarrassing for the FAA to go back on that now yeah Yeah I mean this is. It's all part of the rich pageantry. Yeah I agree speaking wild next year. We think this is what it's like this. Just think about what's going to happen. When the new wrecks in gotTa find is going to turn up again didn't Ross brawn say that he he brought in some like game testers basically to try to subvert the new twenty one rules. That's amazing and then closed loop holes that way race employing hackers to find holes in your system all right speaking of stuff before racist. Bahrain will happen in light of the corona virus with a twist The Bahrain circuit will not allow any spectators into the stands for the track. So we will have much like a lot of other sporting events going on around the globe a race with no audience which we can bring Korea back was that Korea was wildly under attended totally. And I'm making the same point of China which like always had doesn't that hold like two hundred thousand people and like fifteen thousand turnoff or something. I mean there are others. Grandstands were covered in tarps and logos put on them which always seems damning. It's like the Oakland Coliseum with top thing that just has a big raiders flag on it during as games or I think it's the where the where the saints play the Ceasar all different colors. So you can't tell price like that. Yeah it's crazy at the moment Italy same thing like all the games. The six nations has cancelled a bunch of games. But yeah it's the playing an empty stadiums thing something you get used to in Italian football because usually they. They've done as where they've banned entire fans for season's going to games and that's kind of how it's the I mean there's a there's a history of Some some pretty bad Ultra ultra fans in in Sarajevo with specific aims. And but. Yeah this is. This is going to be interesting note. This was a fairly well attended rice. So Yeah and they did issue refunds. But that's all like plane tickets. You can't get back in hotels stuff. Ross. Brian also did say like you mentioned. Danny that Italy's kind of locked down now I don't have any work is okay though I believe. Yeah my understanding is work between cities and in and out of the country is basically being restricted to work trips or at like serious family trips or something like that okay. They're basically like checking your papers If basically tourism traffic is is a non essential. Travel has been entirely lockdown right. And I think every other like every country will have its own sort of rules on this stuff and I think the way. It is kinda going now and hope. I think one hopes that it continues to go. This way. Is that F. One personnel. Get sort of like advanced. They let the government know that they're coming to this place and all that stuff and they can work it out and not have to like go into a mandatory automatic two week quarantine but still. It's all kind of still up in the air Ross Brawn of formula. One says obviously if a team makes its own choice not to go to a race. That's their decision but where a team is prevented from going to race because of a decision of the country then it's difficult to have a fair competition. This article for Motorsport goes on to say one possible scenario however could be for the race to go ahead but in that case but for it to be a non world championship event so points would be scored. I I think they should lean into it. I think they should absolutely do that. That happens and reverse the grid like make your own race. It Weird fundraise like. I think that will be the idea of them going with the racist audiences. I hadn't really considered that as a solution but I guess it does kind of work. Considering the vast majority of people will obviously be watching Invested in this already right I can see Formula. One being like all right. Well we can't have fans but like we can't just not do this like there's TV rights locked up already. Shipped everything over there Yeah also liking. How many organizers can afford to do this like? That's the thing. Yeah and how many organisers can just be like? You know what we'll run it without Any attendees and we'll we'll must be getting a kickback. Though surely like they must be a Formula One must be paying paying them something to still run us because like Shirley the gate receipts is is like yeah. I mean there's there's probably more to it than that but I don't know how like I. I'm just curious what the financial picture is like Organizer by organizer. Especially because I understand. There's not really a one-size-fits-all Like venue contract right like your places F. One has beaten down the door to get into and they're places that like you know the annual hostage taking of the German ground pray Finally culminated being canceled. This is like a the nature of f one is that it seems like people getting different deals for hosting and F one race Or people or people are just Having different reactions new terms come into effect. But this is the part. I haven't paid a great deal of attention to But it does seem like there's a lot of venue operators who can barely afford to get these things off the ground much less You know run it to an empty of venue totally and if you're going to pick one venue that was going to be able to pay for this thing and had like you know Pa PA deep pockets to be able to do it. You'd you'd pick Bahrain you'd maybe go for Abu Dhabi next but like they'll be fine. It's when we get into the European races whether or not Places like Baku. You really start to ask the question. You know who's WHO's paying for it well. Australia is full steam ahead but this news article published Motorsport Dot Com. A restaurant next to the Albert Park. Track is at the center of our Corona Virus scare hitting your seven year old Australian man who has since been diagnosed with code. One thousand nine hundred attended a function there on Saturday cool. I mean old Social Butterfly Bastard. I know I couldn't do stay at home. You've had seventy years of partying Yeah it's just. It's so hard to talk about this thing and to try like I put up a poll on my twitter to see like what people thought. How many races? What we end up having by the end of the year and it was a pretty even split between like you know. Broken up into like fights at ten ten to fifteen two quarters. It's so hard sitting at this end of the story. Where either in the first chapters of a horrific you know global event will define the next decade. Or maybe we're past the curve for a lot of countries and and hopefully it'll slowly slowly got better but it's just like in one way. It seems silly to be talking about is in these terms. Because you know who knows. In a year's time we might look back and go. Wow what a what a strange you know a way to to chat around this like very you know dangerous thing that happened or many ways. Maybe everything will just be ground than their run all the races empty where they have to. It's just so to everything about this. Just feels like I wish. I know where it was going. What yeah well. Speaking of oil rich nations Robert next news story here. We're getting rid of gases. Are we finally going green on me? As part of F one's carbon-neutral Initiative and support for green energy. They signed a deal with Saudi Aramco. So they signed a long term sponsorship with like the biggest oil company in the world. So that's an odd look Saudi Aramco is regarded as one of the biggest carbon-emitting in the world now admittedly gins a lot of this is because when you're talking about oil companies a lot of the terrible numbers around them are people folding in downstream use like Saudi Aramco produces the oil sales at people who then do a whole bunch of shit with it and Saudi Aramco's lund who like ultimately those missions are charged back to nevertheless. Yeah they just pick the tobacco. They're not they're not telling you to smoke it exactly like I mean it's I think it does get a little too reductive to say that it's like just fossil fuel companies because part of it is also like there is demand nobody is really like people are fulfilling demand not really giving a damn about Where the where. The energy is sourced. What what the sources? So I think there there's that element of it. But nevertheless oil companies sort of have notoriously bend the forefront of climate change denial trying to undercut cleaner energy solutions and the notion that F. One literally a year after making a pretty like making a big deal out of the fact that they're trying to go green To sign a long term sponsorship deal with Saudi Aramco kind of highlights. How ridiculous the entire initiative is right and sort of how how hollow it is hopefully get paid and stocks Kazaa. It's been a rough week for crude. Yeah I mean that's that's the other part of this right. What what perfect timing to sign this deal with Saudi Aramco? Just as it looks like the bottom might be falling out of the oil industry a little bit And that's probably GONNA work bound but is it's either that or it's economic terrorism against Russia to try and bottom at the market kind of you know the jury's out on what what exactly is going on right now what's going on Danny with video games video game Scott. I thought you'd never ask. I never to talk about video games drew. None of us really in rather I don't know surprising development. I'm excited and surprised by this F. One has appointed frontier. Who are a studio out of the UK who make the leaked video game series at dangerous rather the fans studio David Robin is famously. The crater of elite at the also made a really good Jurassic Park evolution. I believe it's called. It's the The drastic park management gave those like not real time strategy but like Management Sim style. Like zoo tycoon. Taken roller coaster tycoon. I don't think they today's planet coaster which one lady. Yeah yeah yet. It make a lot of these games that are you know either space flight simulators or managing games but they have been brought on by a Flynn to create a new series of official management Sims. And these are separate to the code masters. Formed Games are quote here from raise funds at frontier run by ELITES CREATOR. David has a multi-year exclusive license to publish four F one management games across a range of formats including consoles and pc beginning in twenty twenty two. The Games will be based on its Cobra. Engine used in the two thousand fourteen edition of the series elite dangerous F. One is one of the most popular global sporting franchises in the world says Brabin and we believe the combination of F. I think it's brave and actually I'm seeing Brabin because of F one two brains of molded together Sorry I and we believe the combination of the broncos extensive experience imagine games will deliver fantastic game experience to a wide and varied audience around the world. It's interesting because F. One Management Games have been around. You know. There's there's the mobile game and there's a version on steam as well in the in the past there have been splits between the EA racing games and other official and in further back unofficial management games as well so there. There's always been this sort of Split between the two. It just feels a little bit throwback because so many modern sports games have sort of reabsorbed the management part of their games back into them. So you tend not to guess. They used to be a time starting in the late nineties already thousands where there was a lot of management games around sports and soccer and football manager is probably the one that's still kind of exists and but they used to be way more like football manager has its history in in the same way that prohibition fee for us to have a bottle there was multiple there was three or four different management soccer management games being released a UK at one stage championship matter. Ella Mae Manager was lows of these so used to be a way bigger thing. So it's interesting. I think I could see it working well. I think there's a lot of management stuff that if you put it in the F. One game it it. It's different muscle right. It doesn't feel as it's not the same thing it's like it's like you know playing game of football playing tennis and watching. Thomas. They're the same thing but the actual participation or the way you're doing it is is totally different so I'm excited and it's a good developer. Don't follow games. Frontier know what they're doing a pretty good track record. They have a pretty good track record working with other people's intellectual properties as well but they have a track record of not making management games in the style of a true sports manager. Right like I think. There's there's a big difference between frontier make Diorama games or like in a sandbox managers where we're part they can be very nitty gritty There can be a lot of detail but really what you're there for is to watch the world move and react to the changes you know like dressing park okay like finally got the T. Rex Bam fucking T. REX now. Now wait for something untoward. Happened around that T. rex which is the equivalent like signing Alonzo. Perhaps but I think when you bring up like the steamed management series That are that are out there. That have been there in the past Brown motorsports but like one of the reasons. People get obsessed with like out of the park. Baseball or football manager is because these are games built with a really detailed and statistically supported model of the sport in question right like Football Manager SORTA tortuously is used a sort of a crib for a scouting staff. Similar things with out of the park where you. These games claim to simulate in the sport in a way that the the more archaic counterparts. Don't even come close right like. Mlb The show isn't nearly as convincing and Comprehensive Assem of baseball and the business of baseball in the structure of their contracts As out of the park is what I find interesting here. Is that what? What is the nature of the management? We'd be doing right like I think it's smart for f one to split off the Sim from the management ideas. I think it sucks that somebody. Good management franchises were killed because of exclusivity then didn't make a carve out for management Sims But when I think about what would frontiers version of this look like? We don't really have convincing models for how F. One works as a sport right. What we know is. Do you have a lot of money are you one of these three teams until. I just throw throw resources at it Some my my guess would be. This might look a little bit like a really fancy like really fancy version of the Cairo. Soft Games Remember Grand Prix Story. we'll yeah. Yeah they're great. Yeah I suspect beginning glossy version of those. Yeah I don't think it sorry going. I I see this one of three ways either. It is the spreadsheet style of football manager or the the top down like big strategic decision of a team principal say or strategists. That motorsport manager does or is just F. One tycoon and you're building a circuit and their attracts and people are coming to your Grand Prix. If I was to hedge my I don't think it's going to be a spreadsheet game because that's not they make. They're not sports interactive like. They've never yeah they. They have made games like connect models. You know what I mean like. They've they've they. They're not afraid to lean towards that mainstream person like they make games that are more accessible in the in the way of stuff like the Sims f. One pinata well hopefully not because not literally the Viva Fignon is like one of the hardest management games ever made and it was aimed at children so I think like I love out a nightmare of a game design for the audience. It was supposed to be made for. I think I think frontier are pretty sharp when it comes to making stuff. That's like like they`ve. I'm just looking at games here. They've made a planet coaster scream ride and Thrill Ville those are like three different. Like difficulty of on roller coaster tycoon. They've there was difficu- different stratas of difficulty. And I think they've fine tuned over the past couple of years and making games like planet soon. Zoo tycoon which I think are fantastic so for me. I think it'll probably be. It'll have to have that aesthetic that they've gone for that isometric play. I wonder if you'll be running a factory a lot of time and then going to a race in some sort of way but the focus is on the factory and research and getting the right drivers and training them and it's more that part of us and then the circus is kind of something you go to which. I guess isn't so far from the mobile one's called again mode games. Kite another car software. Yes restoring the story they also made Game Dev story did they that one. Yeah those are those are fun so I don't know I guess time will tell. I think it's cool. I can't think of another studio. I prefer I don't want the sports interactive version of this. You know the Football Niger folks. I've been trying to do that. I know it'd be bad you want. Nfl I just I I would love somebody to look at one and be like you know what I can model all of that and just like have at it and like the or factor but like yeah for Christian Horner. Yeah and like you just learn to begin breaks down because no matter like whatever level you can always turn Williams new championship team inside of three years. 'cause like the system can be mastered well speaking of mastering system. Danny you take us to this system. Sure we're going to the what system has earth and the solar system the SOL system. I guess We're going to a little place. A little corona virus riddled planet. A tiny island in the south called Australia. We've been out the Australian Grand Prix for a pretty long periods. I think it's the second oldest or one of the oldest circa nineteen twenty eight was the first race and and it's it's banned Sarande eyelash. It's it's probably most famous for the older crowd for the eleven year stretch. It was on Adelaide. And what's interesting about? That is the a historically the Australian Grand Prix. It was actually the final race of the season. I think all but one of the years I think they moved one year because of What's that what's that Weird Olympics but only for ex colonial Commonwealth they the Commonwealth Games? We were never invited because we managed to get independence and we. I think one year was moved for that but it was it was always the final race and then when I went to Albert Park they decided to put it at the start of the calendar Sort of five months later and then it was originally at Albert Park since nineteen ninety six and its contract until twenty twenty five am so we're going to be here for a little bit longer and it's a fun track. It's it's a street circuit and a Race Circus there's a lot of the track is actually drivable. Most of the year you can take a road car. Honest doesn't need to be specially kit at or anything Dr Clockwise or anti clockwise. The problem is I think it's a speed limit of twenty five miles an hour. Most of the park it is in a park. It's a park just to in the center of the city by the river and and it has I guess the START FINISH STRAIGHT. I think is the only part of the circuit. That's not actually driving for the rest of the year at its capacity of eighty thousand people and a generally fills at for the whole weekend at five point three kilometers three point nine miles sixteen turns clockwise three D. R. S. owns data the third one. It was four years ago now. And there's a double D r s on the either side of the second and third corner is one in the back stretches well before you sort of dive into the slow that arena before the pit lane and it's a fun track. Drivers seem to seem to really like it. What's interesting about it is perhaps The Hamilton hasn't traditionally done particularly well here at last time. A woman in two thousand fifteen actually Almost one in twenty fourteen that was aired at his car broke down and you may remember the incident where he had to walk back to the pits in his full cash and the security guard wouldn't allow him into the paddock because he didn't have a pass so there's a great clip where he flips up his visor and says. I'm a driver and like literally as this is happening. He has like the helmet wasn't gloves. His boots is full race cash. I'm it's during the rice and the guy was like A. Yeah so he ended up letting in eventually since Yeah so we want the next year Twenty Fifty Nico Rosberg at twenty sixty and then battle got a brace twenty seventeen two thousand eighteen winning us. Of course. Last year of Algeria Bowtie started off his his his positive start to the season last year. It all just. We all got bait and switched totally. Yeah I don't know why this is this year. This is about bodas year so yeah exactly. So if Hamilton doesn't win this week don't think it has some sort of a sign of things does but if he does well maybe maybe we should be worried than for all the other reasons. Some other historical things on this track Turn three down. The bottom of the Whitford straight is where Martin. Brundle had his famous crash before he ran back to the pits and got an a second car was almost identical to the crash. Fernando Alonzo Hodge. I believe we'll be three years ago now. Some great slow motion footage of that one. This is the crash. He got out of the car as quickly as possible so his mother who was watching on television wouldn't be too worried There was a catastrophic Ralf Schumacher crash in two thousand and two which people probably remember seeing his car flipping backwards He think he ran into the back of Baruch. Kello CEO was a as cars retired that year at the start of the race and the other thing that that thousand anti-racist famous for is it was Mark Webber's I drive Australian driver and he managed to get through that crash and retain position pretty well. Did he ended up? I believe it was in a minority and he came fifth so it ended up. It was a fairly impressive drive. I three race deal with them. And then dot sort of cemented his place in F one manage to get a proper drive there. There's a video of photographs of him going up to the podium with Australian flag once the actual podium ceremony had finished Which was quite great. A sort of a mirror to that one is what happened to Daniel Accardo then in his first Australian Grand Prix where he ended up placing. I think it was second and then after the race. Red Bull Right. Sorry you're right. Ya and then it was. After the race they had gone over fuel allowance for the race and he ended up getting I'm not sure if he was D. Cube or lost a couple of. I think he might have been devalued and then so he was on the podium but then they ended up taking that away from him and then going a little bit further. The euro's born nineteen eighty-six where Nigel Mansell famously. Lost Dash to alum process for the championship. He how does I think? It was a suspension failure halfway through the race and then they were worried about the other car or somebody else having problems so they pitted and then that's our prostitute coming first and winning the drivers championship on kitchen. Two constructors as well so Plenty of History in India Australian Grand Prix at that one of course happened that Adelaide. Not Not here. Yeah and it's a fun circus like I said. Three Duress owns for the view. Air Viewer on television. You'll you'll get to know the struck pretty well a lot of the angles. I am very a difference. The sort of for section of the track dominated by straight and then the sort of under underbrush sort of wooded area Then the back-off being around the lake into the the the the DRI sewn and then Arrange a scarring and Stewart and the process. Turn it's a little bit slower As they run up to the star finish again. It's a it's a fun circus. How are we doing for weather? Actually jump the gun here because it can get wet here. It looks like it's a funny one. It probably will rain for practice. Okay but Qualifying and the race look pretty. Low percentage wise like maybe eight percent five percent temperatures seventeen Celsius only sixty three Fahrenheit. So not too bad on qualifying day slightly warmer on race day. So that'll be good for everybody. Wins might be a little windy Thirteen miles an hour or twenty one kilometers an hour on qualifying day and slightly less for race day so yeah overcast not direct sun or partly cloudy so probably probably good good weather to go reasoning. Yeah maybe similar to Barcelona because it was a little bit chillier a slight bit windier than they were expecting or than it usually is. That's I'm here. Yeah we've got the C two C three and C four tire compounds. The middle range of the five tire compounds That is the hard medium and soft respectively. Everyone looks to be taking similar allegations tire. So for those for whom? This is a new concept. You get to decide the car's tires yet. The first of all there are four tires car. Thirteenth Sets. Each driver gets to take into the weekend that has to last them through practice qualifying and the race. And you get to decide. How many hearts mediums and stops you take so that is decided weeks ahead of time but generally every driver takes a whole bunch of sauce a few mediums and then very few hearts saying that's kind of the way it's going here one or two hard tires between one and three medium tires and then either nine or ten soft tires and it's only the recent point cars. Actually that are taking eight soft tyres. Three mediums in into hards looking at. Haas who have had trouble with tires in the past especially at Australia. Oh my God. One hard tire to mediums and ten soft. So I think I think that needs for you kind of just put one hard tire Andrea. I think that's all we have fun on this podcast. We sure do. These are the jokes. We don't have any driver standings to go over everyone's zero which is very exciting and we don't have any leader board news to go on for our fantasy section. Although I did want to just point out that my team is set I've got for step in Perez Ricardo Caveat Magnusson and Mercedes you pick five drivers and a and a team and there are some already fantastic names in the shift f. One official. Oh Yeah Fantasy League by the way. There's always a lincoln notes. If you want to join us it is free. Of course. Kevin has a team called signs of the Times. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Nick has winnow. Winnow Marlboro dinner should we? Jeff has a team called. Oh Canada okay I got it. Yeah Yeah I got in. Sarah has haas of the rising sun. That's good My friend James Who recently started listening to the podcast. He got an. I think through drive to survive as well. He has a team called ver. Not Stopping wow which I thought was pretty good although I looked at his team and he has George Russell honest now man you got to move the money around and get someone else there. It's not gonNa work again you can. You can join our official league with the code in the show notes. She would take emails. Danny Hey let's take the emails shift IPHONE PODCAST DOT COM or f. One DOT com slash emails. If you're a cool dude at drew you WanNa take this one from John in Portland Oregon? Yes I can or if you're Kuwaiti. Sorry course cool person. Yeah John from Portland Oregon says. Hey shifter's longtime listener first-time caller. Thanks for all you do. You're welcome John Question about tires. Why does Parrilli have a lock on providing the compounds? I know firestone bowed out prior to really. Is that a contract. How often is it reviewed and renewed? Also what is it about the setup that is causing problems with tires that other teams don't seem to have our the races where there were problems are the racists where there were problems races were the drivers out of sync with the rest of the pack? Or is it more of a mechanical problem and keeping the temperature consistent all right so first of all yes? We used to have multiple before my time. There used to be multiple tire Constructors I guess. Two two thousand six was the last time was when Michelin and Bridgestone were were Benson rant and Pirelli has been the sole tyre providers since two thousand eleven and recently renewed their contract to supply from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three so a four year deal. So that's about how long those contracts lasts but yeah that would be signed with the with forming the one in terms of the Haas question like what was what was their deal tough to know but million million dollar question right yeah. I mean from the way that they talked about it. And the way that other teams to talk about this generation of cars for all the cars there is a very narrow window that the temperature neat of the tire needs to be for your car to be most efficient. And that's because you want your tire to be warm in Tacky so that the car sticks to the ground but not so hot that it degrades and not so cold that it's just a you know effectively a piece of ice. So there's a really narrow range and Haas I think out of everyone had the narrowest range and why that was. The case was the big the big question for them. So you could. You could sort of see this. Play out where. Their car was working as intended during qualifying where they could carefully dial in with their out laps. How hot their tires needed? To BE STRAIGHT UP. The warmers mind. You yes. Straight OUTTA. Tire warmers but when you're out for you know two hours on a racing circuit you don't have a lot of luxury. And then they subsequently plummeted so up in Asia question. Rob You WANNA take this one from Doug in Tokyo sure Doug writes. Hey Danny Andrew and rob cuts on the discussion. Last week in the testing of sudden wanted to add context. The cost of shipping. And why might be smart to rationalize and reduce the amount of cargo ship for the F? One traveling circus a major sponsor and supplier services for the World Endurance Championship is Dhl have some graphics and press releases about what goes into moving the WC around for thirty three cars. They move one hundred twenty tons of cargo. Jerez that does not include the nearly the amount of team motorhomes setup as Formula One for the racist outside of Europe. This logistics challenge is massive when the round set for Brazil in February was cancelled. There were only a few locations considered for an alternate race because of the Shipping Logistics Hence why Circuit of the Americas was chosen. Moving cars around is expensive. Doing so by ship is cheapest with emergency shipping's of cars or large cargo containers reaching into six figures. Three team found out when their car missed the ship from South Africa to Australia to go from the Kyle? Nine our last November to bathurst twelve hour this February reducing the emission spewed by container ships is vital reducing. The necessity of air freight is equally important. So moving the calendar for F one around would make some sense Vertu. Another exciting season a speedy racecars in Japanese prefectures. Yeah that's really interesting. I do wonder how much like getting a GT three car from South Africa to Bathurst of across a like when you have those races three months apart is such a different world than the one that the F. One calendar has teams operating. And that's kind of my question is like what is the top speed of a cargo ship sailing around throughout the South Pacific That is GONNA be one of the major hurdles especially because Cardiff elements happening that period But I'm with you in the sense that anything you can do to reduce the amount of air freight seems pretty critical From the standpoint of emissions and it seems like there's probably a lot of the F one calendar is just leaving on the table right and at some point that needs to be rationalized. That gets tougher to do when your calendar is also kind of this hodgepodge of things that were added not really cohesively right like the F. One calendar is product of love compromises and negotiations over the years But it does seem like you know now. The v Ramco deal doesn't make US QUESTION. F One's commitment to Lowering wishes but it does seem like. There's a lot of low hanging fruit here that they could be reaching for. There's an article on Formula Dot Com. That was just posted recently. It's an interview with the Haas race team operations manager. A guy named Jeff Simmons who is basically responsible for packing everything in shipping at two different locations. Personally put into a big Pelican case bubble rock. He says that thirty four tons per team That need to go to each location by air. Eight by see An eight eight tonnes is stuff that that doesn't change right so that's like the garage the the TV screen for the pit wall and stuff like that And he says if you were to do everything by c Formula One would need a sixty three week year. Make it happen. Yeah so my my modest proposal for this you guys think gopher. Nobody's and brainstorming. Airships like Hindenburg. Yes you know. Gilded Age as spore that the idea of the ferrying. Their cars via dirigible has a certain appeal. Especially 'cause he he just drone fly those things and so like that point fuck it loaded with hydrogen. Why don't they think about her? Why don't they just have like tethered balloons where you can watch the race from you know? That's the GOODYEAR BLIMP YOU'RE DESCRIBING. I he wants. He wants barrage balloons. Strewn around the racetrack. Drunk assholes can like watch the race from inevitably fall out of the out of Said Balloon. It's GonNa make the you know national anthem flies real challenging but prevent strafing runs from the Red Baron. It's really important to the circus. Thanks so much ever news. N E mails. We had a lot of emails about this about the logistics. I think it's really grab people's imagination. And we've got a lot of emails from people who had listened to the primer. Her in new to the PODCASTS. Saying thank you for that. So thank you offer your messages and thanks for listening. Yes welcome welcome to this ridiculous circus. And I wanted to pick this one F. Gracie which was Who paid pitched this idea as a new more carbon aware colander to the season using I guess the idea of like different kits of cars as a as the methods through which you could sort of divvy up the amount of stuff the needed to get shipped. So I'm going to let Gracie take they say okay so it's not perfect by any means but when focusing on the different kits of cars that have to travel. This is more efficient than the current setup. The final race calendar would be so. Follow me here. Australia Sochi Canada. Sorry Hungary Canada Singapore Silverstone US Austria the US Lee Azerbaijan Vietnam. Monaco Netherlands Mexico France China Belgium Brazil by rain. All the bee's together Spain Japan and finishing in Abu Dhabi as we do so the logistics behind this being where the races are divided up into these five kits. Kits would be. You'd have Australia. Singapore Vietnam China Japan together Brazil Mexico. Us and Canada UK Netherlands and Belgium and Spain France Monaco Italy Austria Hungary and then Russian Azerbaijan. Bahrain and Abu Dhabi together again by no means perfect and arena only works if the parts don't need to be transported back to their headquarters after each race and if they abandoned the idea fancy motorhomes they car around but it's definitely more efficient than the current system. Sago five kits. Keep them all together. And then you can sorta like Ben Serandon between the races. What are we think of that? I mean I love it if you could get that going with every one of those different circuits Sweeney Bernie. Back strong arm. Everyone I like the idea of there just being a bunch of cars lying around at circuits waiting to turn up. Maybe rent the mat or something. I love the idea of Bernie being the one to sort out like this. This damn carbon inefficient calendar. You wouldn't deviate the entire circus. Wildly off course to change him nickel. Somebody dropped that. That's how we got here or any. Bernie's world he doesn't he's he's topping out in the next decade elise. He's he's not he's not too worried so I think he'll he'll be like Castro. Just go if you'd like to email us about your your Your carbon-neutral plans. You can hit us up at Shift podcast gmail.com F. One dot com slash e mails. You hit US up on twitter at shift at one. Podcast address gallon. That's add Daniel Dwyer at at ROB's acne. That's US around the Internet. Should we take it around the World Denny? It's time to raise events on this calendar now. The World Rally Championship is in Mexico. The supercars are supporting for me. The one this weekend Which will be fun. The Gander Mountain trucks are at Atlanta Motor speedway along with the xfinity series Georgia or the city of Atlanta one under under water. The indy-car season also starts this weekend. The firestone Grand Prix of Saint Petersburg at the Alberta witted airport Saint Petersburg Florida. Okay slightly warmer the NHRA around three. They're already underway there. Gainesville for the L. E. Motor oil. Gator nationals excuse me on me like the Yes alligator. We got ness car. O Ma. That's right we're already around five a also in Atlanta for the folds of honor quick trip five hundred folds folds like Ben folds it actually is Google. That's now is sponsoring this race or piano folded American flags in the back of mountain truck. Okay yeah that's what I figured. What was it. It's it's okay. Can you go other formula? One part of this weekend. Maybe Thursday march twelfth at nine PM Eastern time on. Espn news is practice. One practice to the following day at one. Am Good Depression. Ours is at its most real. I've just realized that daylight savings is going to make this even harder. Oh yes practice. Three is Friday March Thirteenth at eleven. Am ON ESPN news. Fall by qualifying Saturday at two. Am ON ESPN two P. P. Three was eleven. Pm Yes it's making sure they're not having a gap between the two. There must be a Typo here. God I hope so. Could you imagine we practice? And then just for NAP Siesta. It must be eleven pm. Eleven PM is practice three and then Qualifying is Two Am Gosh on ESPN. Two And then we've got the race Sunday March fifteenth at One. Oh five am on E. S. P. N. in oral flies featured in cover it up. Oh God Danny Rick demolished car. On God's I've never is the fastest retirement like except for like a nonstarter that must be the fastest crush. Yeah he's going into the back of someone who hasn't who hasn't pulled away right right. Yeah so far. Yeah speaking records actually Kimmy only needs ten Grand Prix starts to beat Rubens. Barrichello as washed most laid back driver and Hamilton can beat Schumacher's ninety one wins rice. Yeah and he can also Kasumi. Didn't have Choubey at six to me. It's kind of tie that champion. Yeah speaking of Rubens. Barrichello He Giancarlo physicality and Jack Aitken from Formula. Two will also be driving in a a support series called the five thousand. That's really stupid. Name appeared to be cars that are in between formula three and formula to in terms of horsepower. Okay so Look after that. They couldn't call it like the old geezer cough or something. Now it's like it's like Australia's INDYCAR. Okay they've already got their own. Nascar and supercars and rugby or Football Games football version. They have dropped bears all the classic sports pictures. I'm sorry we went the entire podcast while I guess you started the podcast with lots of I don't know what you call where the caller xenophobia but it's not really I'm not scared look overcome with the anthrax recently and I can't get that accent at my co called out of podcasts. Let's get out of here. Okay if you'd like to support this show you can do pitcher com slash shift F. One boy I'm excited for this season. 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68: Special episode: Aldo Costa - The man with more world titles than anyone else

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68: Special episode: Aldo Costa - The man with more world titles than anyone else

"Hello to everybody my name is Aldo Costa and you are listening beyond degree. Hi everyone and welcome to be on the grid presented by the new bose noise cancelling headphones seven hundred. My Name's Tom Clarkson. And my guest. This week is a man in whose name may not be immediately familiar to all of you but I guarantee you. He's got an interesting story to tell now if I were to ask you who's won the most world titles in F if one history immediately answer Michael Schumacher or if you were thinking outside the box a little bit you might say Adrian Newey or Enzo Ferrari. Well in fact is is none of them. It's an unassuming Italian engineer. WHO's been a key part of the sports two biggest dynasties I'm talking of course about Aldo Costa? Although so as one two thousand six championships across a career spent predominantly with Brian. Mercedes although we learned the ropes with Minardi back in the late eighties. He's an early ninety s while at Ferrari he worked very closely with Ross Brawn and brewery burn and it was the respect and friendship that developed between him and Brune that led to him switching to Mercedes the start of this decade and unsurprisingly more champagne spraying has followed Aldo. Recently left Mercedes to join delara whereas job description is much wider than just F. One although he'll retain links with F one through Delores work with us we thought it was the perfect moment to reflect on his thirty year here. F One career during which he's etched his name firmly into the history books. I hope you enjoy our conversation Aldo. Welcome to the show. Lovely to have you on beyond the great now Q.. You have an incredible poor accurate over the last thirty years in Formula One by my calculations including two thousand nine hundred and we're looking at twenty six world titles one hundred ninety ninety nine race wins which is more than Michael Schumacher and Lewis Hamilton. Put together I mean it's incredible record when I say those stats to you. What does it make you feel Hey something for me. Still unbelievable everyday's unbelievable in my career was very very long and I had really really the opportunity and the pleasure to To follow chew a cycle of my life one cycle winning cycle at Ferrari A and and now they all winning psychotherat say this Working with the talented people. Currently the engineer engineer tim principle drivers so really really an unbelievable experience. We'll come on to sort of life at Mercedes and Ferrari but just just talking about you as an engineer. What is your greatest? Strength is difficult to judge yourself of course Let's let's say may three big cycle Minardi And then the Fisher. I found myself building building team of engineers a team of designers team of people that want to develop a researcher cars but as well developed themselves as people as team and develop the capabilities around on them so I found myself doing the same exercise. Three time for stopped binder. That was a pretty low in all three cases building a group. A team up to Gather arriving to be successful. Was it always Formula Confu or could you have gone into the wider road car industry. You graduated from Bologna University in mechanical engine. Yes and it was was it always just focus on f one for me was always seen was fifteen years old looking at Nikolaou James San the bottle was there's always a f one more was one and I was laying in the car smallers and looking at them for many many years of my young life. You ever want to be a racing driver. I thought the for a little while but then I decided it was not for me for me because I know you. I was more interested toward the car design car development and they I felt that it was Yeah much better for me even if a laker still now driving cars on track I think I have nowhere near the talent that is needed. For the kind of you mentioned the mid seventies I mean that was such a wonderful era for design in formula. One wasn't it. There was so much progress from one year to the next. It was a little bit jealous of the people who were designing cars in that era. Yeah you if there was a diversity was was One of the things that you could see Yeah when people introduced the To a boy engine. And you add the year I commemorate fate different inner self racer. So was yeah definitely. Cars were very different. Unfortunately because Maybe there was allowing for more freedom but also because People Middle G. They were not a ah such an eleven so people had an idea and okay We could the engineering principle. They were designing a car but without belt knowing too much about too much about handling now known as the the motor technology they are bringing you somehow toward the The same optimum sometime so they are pushing you toward the same solution So be much more difficult moved to ever such a variety of car even if the rules would have been more open are interesting now. It's coming eight years at Mercedes is coming coming to an end. Can we talk about this team. Let's talk about this team now. Why is it being so successful? Mercedes I how much time every got for the very essence. I think As a group of people Louis We have been able to be machine group of of people and an organization that he's working with strength but there's a lot of via loser working very well together we the same mindset Looking very very much Third third the ride Very consistent very Detained on every few and everything. We do Wanting to reach the excellence in every the activity we do. And the is is a Dan. such a well all the machine that he's Like a thousand people working in parallel. Who should get the maximum? They can and working very well together. So it's the group Nope that is is that what is that. This team's biggest strength. Yeah I think so. I think so is the collaboration cooperation with between the people Between the single people as well the single grow the group's no politics at all or no ooh Conflict we are pushing people to be to challenge. Ada Sir but in in a good way in a good manner in a positive That action of course we are looking for the best talent in the world so we are we are looking to build these very rei talented people and put together. In the company we have thirty different nationalities so for us it. They've FCAT's strength of this the company. Because you can take from every person that is coming from a different university in the war that you can say something you can take different life experience you can take different university mental garage discern pools different mindset and put together in a very Ramon a new survey group Evert with many great people in your career ski about a few individuals here Mercedes first of all what stands toto told Wolf apart from the other team. Principals you've worked with but thought. Oh yeah he's he's a very very very Person Yeah ee came into the team. I was telling him that yesterday I'm very humble way. We came in very very softly and then little by little league took a leadership Um and now he's a our great leader and yeah. He's the master of the behavior in the company as he's more than for other Bhatia faster in in behaviors in our we D- Louis problems. Are we deal with the we people and in the meantime is not in the clouds is is Eddie was One of us. So we've got the good relationship a very natural as friends two years got this double impossibility impossibility. That is not very normal to be our leader without any doubt that in the meantime to be one of the mate. How different is his management style to that of Ross Brawn for example? 'cause it was Ross. Who brought you here in the first place? Yeah Yeah yeah he he has been of course one of the best if not the best Technical director in the F. One story and as as well a great team principal. I've got a got a lot of good memories with Ross and we have all together thirty four ninety s yes Very very well and I came here immediately when it was calling me because of fe thus team so yeah are it also gave the big first contribution to this team to bring this team from whereas the more team when when Boehner won the championship but the eh the to reduce the number of people in the company from US multi methodist the level of the team when when he left so he did the as well great job and then daughter was was going from. that And the filter developing the team. Really arriving where we are. Now you say you were. It was Ross for nine. Join us at Ferrari another person. You're Ferrari in again here. Mercedes James Allison yet. Yeah tell me about James James we worked together Ferrari again very very well It was Adult strike hero in that moment moment and I was a of the design officer and design activities and abortion was great. Then then and and then yeah we saw one each other at the technical working groups We were part of the same club and the hand of for many years and I was one of the person that Young like a lot from from the news that He was coming year and yeah motza dusty collaboration in the last few years we deem. How'd you feel both you? And him have evolved over the last fifteen years as engineers and his people we for sure both learn how to manage manage people manage the group of people and there's much biggest project compared to the one that we had to face or when we were at Ferrari. Yeah yeah or no knowledge of course is much more wider. I was a pure mechanical engineer and he was a pure arrogant damage. Houston and now. Our our knowledge is much wider in old. TVD's and the company activities. So yet they night I I have to say but that same you know when when things are when you are working well with a person because of your got the same mindset right and the there is four sprague aspect one each other thing that can carry on forever if they're up not events that are changes these these attitudes so this was the case we we James. He's a very talented Allen. Did he can learn things very quickly on. Also you've got you've got less experience and yet he's working you really well hypertension for the future. So I think he's the right man for this place so that's the leading engineers. What about the drivers drivers Lewis Hamilton? DC many similarities. Between Lewis and Michael Schumacher have been has too many things. Your a maintains this question not not super easy because different day JR and different cars and the never they never worked together the similarities that the talent of course eh both drivers unbelievably talented talent. What do you mean speed? We talking raw speed. Is that what you mean by talent. Silence speed the speed for the single lab about as well the everage. I Very I- optimum speed lead in the racer extracting the maximum from away from from engine To using everything you give them to produce the best lap time in qualifying. The best ever slept timeline. Nine the race so these two guys are they never left anything behind really the used ever seen you gave him to produce lap time. Eddie said that the slightly or quite different from the point of view. Michael Michael wanted to do all those. There's all this it was very very methodic in that Available to do who many laps in winter testing during the season bell. You Isam is. He's doing that as well but but naturally preferred the fight and so he is. He wants to be fully dedicated on in a championship. Pinch raised in in a fighting condition. And that these what he loves. And that's where I give immediately the the best as one of the reasons why Michael tested so much because the simulation machines you had by then weren't as good as you have now yet there. Was this effect these these factors. Well you remember when Ferrari did then nine hundred thousand kilometer in a year of testing. We couldn't do with one driver only so we had. We had to rule derision drivers and yeah. There were a lot of the Hor- at the in the days. I aww pilot testing entire Sur to to Let's say to be sure. Did the tires were detached that we needed for the racer racing driver to test that in these days you haven't got any more Taya War attire identical for the year. You can't test that marching season and before the season so is completely different. The store I mean to do ninety thousand kilometers of testing. Did you have a team team based permanently at Mugello or somewhere like that because you must have been out almost every day there were three teams three teams use only one Ferrari in debt few years. Sir What are we. We're talking made made two thousand three three four. That kind of you could see more town. Simultaneously Testing three difference year. Could Soza Fiorano was Mugen and law and one other quick around the Europe every week there was a a testing Buran. That's incredible. Isn't it just logistics of plastic caustic three group of mechanics material trucks. Everything so it was very little research and development testing so Very few facility as well and a lot of surrounding running running did this was the the new avenue took Ferrari say invented and developed and this why the great reliability of Farrar in in those years Sir and as well part of the success of Harare then when when everything stopped team Ferrari yet to go back and quickly develop capabilities in house So it was a little bit behind on the simulation techniques because it had so much ability to more than let's say vehicle simulation real test. benching what did you think of the Brazilian Grand Prix. This weekend. It was good. Wasn't it. There were some tense moments. That's for sure. And they were made all the more interesting. Thanks the Amazon web services. Let me tell you how f. one uses machine learning and predictive modeling built on. 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One and wondering how they get those awesome insights. Just I remember. AWS's how'd find out more. Aws Dot com forward slash f one insights that's aws dot com slash f one insights right. Let's get back to more stories from elbow now. Although you say that you always wanted to work in Formula One and being an Italian did that mean that you Ferrari was the team for you. Is that the goal. A right of passage almost for every engineer to want to work for Ferrari. Sorry no no. I was I was about chassis design was very Verdicchio for me that I was not That much Interested on the engine side was more a chassis. Suspension sinead linger mechanical side of the car. And I was fascinated by the technical innovation so I was looking to whole all cars being a Ferrari or English cars. I was fascinated by about the weather. The best ideas and the best development so I didn't have a particular I was fan off. F One chassis technical side not goalie fan of fat single team. So was it a dream when you went to Ferrari when you went there in ninety five. Was it a special moment. Yes it was as more and may dream Started to become reality when I joined me Naar the in the nineteen eighty-eight Dera touching With with my finger made the rim and really I came into Minardi thinking. Okay now my effort I will bring this team winning the championship level of passion then after seven years in minar the where I became chief these annual and then technical director I found my says says that We were struggling around the not having the possibility to third or grow up and not having a bigger budget and I was struggling to to follow my dreams. I had many idea ideas in in the mind but the I couldn't apply them and then when he came. That was the moment where okay now. Finally I would have the possibility to apply all what I think. It was huge. Deep diving exercises immediately. Tried to apply what I I dreamt for years. It was the lure. The attraction of more resourceful put your ideas into reality rather than Ferrari in English team would come the clarinet. Come to you you might have gone that. Yeah I think I think so. Yeah he even being Italian. Of course I probably I prefer to go to Ferrari definitely being Italian at that moment to but Yeah as as I said I was not does not seen good team targeting. My thinking you wanted to grow together with the team I was working with the end. You'd outgrown Minardi. I suppose yeah I mean it was for me a fundamental experience because the team was more and they are the possibility to Go around the three hundred and sixty degree on every kind of activity by priming it for the first time so I to go in in time I go in Doing the data acquisition fee analyses composite the developmental of men too. So I for me I. There was first activity on everything and I I was learning quite out from these. The priming of these activities just so we can compare how many people were at Minardi early. Ninety S I came in the team is is a number thirty two to the team. All thirty two people producing cars that the car three accounts for a weekend and roughly speaking the championship races and when he left the worst under the twin. So you left and there was under twenty and went to Ferrari where where they were. How many Ferrari determine the designer of malarial the chassis design? Your office was made of four people only because of the time everything was done in England with the FDA SOFA ferry was doing in Italy only few little things. There is the plan to bring back everything you need to leave and you arrived just as that plan. Yes I was of the plan part of the finds. Bring it back home before we move on from Minardi did just want to ask you about two things one the US Grand Prix Nineteen Ninety Pierluigi. Martini qualifies second. Yeah must've felt. Did that feel you probably expanded a little bit more than thirty not all people but that must have felt like a pole position. Yeah yeah it was amazing amazing but before before then there was another the moment a key moment for me. It was nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine silverstone race last race and then you went in pre requalifying and Martini came a fifth and Saleh seeks. So so we we pray points in in the embassy of the speed in silverstone where English team they know how to do the cars for fast escort nurse and we did. He was great at the time together with an English. Share is Nigel Cooper White Really Early Price Guy Yeah we had the ability to develop the car and and the one nine for experience just thrown in at the deep and get on with. You surely did well. Engine did that. Eighty nine years cosworth. V Eight mother then by these new commander operator. Yeah so that felt like a victory. Oh Yeah and then the year after year I throw in was extraordinary. Yeah it was. There was a time as we're very good. Collaboration with Pirelli Selena Sonetti was a development team for for purely and again together with Luigi Martini especially in qualifying trim the job. Oh boys really done very well. Was He better than his results would. Have you believe Martini by ease was Very very very fast. I am very fast. Especially in qualifying. You was one of these guys you could find the Alpha saccone though the seven tenths in the right moment meant so you're really really fast and then the other race I wanted to ask you about with your Minardi. Hats on was nineteen ninety-one. Emily Yeah for yet another extraordinary giant killing performance by you guys. Yeah yeah another big AH satisfaction. We had the time to Ferrari engine but we knew that we had Two year sold the Ferrari engine and the not the latest fuel so we we had quite a decent gap in terms of performance Yeah we we are developing the car during the season and they cut it was responding quite well and it was the best year I think in the championship. When she performed forming add seven seven their best ever yeah which for a small team with in such conditions? It was great so nine thousand nine hundred five. Is it Sean. Todd who gets in touch with you I who was your points of contact at Ferrari and yeah my I I was working in Minardi for a a couple of fierce who with Gustav Brunner. We we took on board the boost of thinking nine hundred ninety three and three hundred nineteen three and four. He stayed with us and then he went to Ferrari and the again very good relationship with Gustav and Working together as a team and when he was a Ferrari we started talking. Yeah that's the initial contain issue but then was aware of the tools. Were you aware Mary ninety-five that there was the whole Schumacher. Juggernaut was about to arrive in ninety-six with Michael and then oversleep Ross. And Rory Byrne and was that on the cards when you join no beginning no because if activity joined the network another story join the GT Cargo Develop Ferrari F fifty four lemond on the cloud. You Them Bar the cloud. You need to stop that. You're a man who wanted to work in Formula One. You went to Ferrari to work on an F. Fifty yes yes because was another person reasons. I was leaving Parma working in fines the following all the championship test the races so again four familiar reason I decided okay. Let's find a job. Let's aliko okay but the closer to warm and with less travelling and I accepted this opportunity at Columbia the author me to develop by fifty. The lemon knowing that I was anyway I would have been anyway in Saratoga. So sooner or later the the like me in the activity so it was sort of an investment and the Tappan and More quickly than they thought the because we depend us after three or four months to a you started you. September and for for the fifty. GD And in January. I was already in one January nineteen ninety-six because of a said Gustav and then taster of Ferrari. Did you walk into in January ninety six because they hadn't won the drivers title. Since what was it seventy nine with jody scheckter. was there a sense of desperation. Did you feel we've just got to with a lot of pressure on the team named stock getting results and I was walking in Maranello design office and yet the first feeling was a unfortunately particularly bad. Because that officer's I said it was very small using different system from the FDA of John Barnard having to move to another system that was switched off under the tables and and dealing with with England. Only with be good to blotter so was pushing. Fission real transitional dream. Yeah transitional time starting from scratch from from everything so that ninety six Ferrari please please forgive me if I'm about to say the wrong thing but I didn't think it was the best looking car it ever seen. No because there was. This is called the Arab chair. I can't look like an object but is that because there was all this transition going on as you were changing from one program to the next next and maybe and moving everything back to Italy is that one of the reasons. Do you think the car wasn't as effective. I mean Michael Schumacher won races. Ed but for me it was difficult at the time to understand where we are where we were then. Because I started January ninety ninety six at the car was already designed and yet the assembly of the happened after few few days literally so from that point onward my task was different was to start employing a lot of people in and building a team a design team and to stop the putting together design processes The the correct mythology mentality and into the development of nine hundred ninety six car during the seasons who I remember the silver package them on the package were. We're MARANELLO started to be actively involved and from Nineteen ninety-seven lose the group was able to to put a bit more ideas on the car and from Nineteen Ninety Eight. The car was fully designed developed in in Manila. And who is the person you worked closest with their in Maranello was it. Rory Byrne was it. Ross just how how. How was the structure? Yeah yeah the structure was very very clear immediately after I joined the roles and then Ori but there's really rather fundamental people looking after other activity during the first year it was a bit of a transition between FDA and So dealing with With Tom Barna dealing with Mike coughlan in the end we all send the Holiday Inn Rawson rory without the sitting around the table there again. The relationship started they immediately positive and was great from day. One really tell me a little bit about Rory Byrne yes South African lots of experience in f one by the time you two go together. My memories of him are someone with huge energy. Yep huge energy. I remember him telling me that he used to keep a note pad by his bed and wake up in the middle of the night with an idea and quickly right Clinton inspirational figure. Yeah you did you did. Yeah Yeah it was it. WHO's a very inspirational for me? And yes I'm all we found ourselves very complimentary in of for again how we behave and were mindset and it was working ethically well because he was more degraded did the the link between Arab performance track and in his office and I was. I was the guy that was a Developing with the very detailed metallurgy the design activity and Yeah how frustrating did it get so you say by ninety eight. Everything's being designed and built in Marinella yet. At the last ninety seven it was the last race it went the other way to Vilna Ninety eight. It went the other way to make. How can you just can you remember? But what the atmosphere was like back. Then what you were thinking yeah. ninety-nine as well as well yeah yeah yeah it was I believe it was almost there almost there and then not yet not yet not yet but this gave us the boost to do better and better and better at the end. Yeah we we did a lot of little mistakes that the organization to learn and avoid the for for the future and literally when the organization became much more touring two thousand two thousand one eight were much more could lead organization Sort talk of very fine Mesh Net. That was not allowing for any other mistake at the very beginning. Yes so you. We did. Eden was was a natural we were going from from nothing really. Because can you imagine to bring from England tomorrow night. Low everything not only the design but as well the the production of all the components the the Prius Assembly and develop the team was a monumental activity now for man is one twenty six world. Titles both did you derive much pleasure from the constructors championship in one thousand nine. Because it was your first see had the constructor's title on the one in Hamburg. Clearly you lost the driver style at the last race in Japan. Can you remember how that felt. I remember very well. But not making I'm not making differences between constructor and the drivers. I know that for Mr Montezemolo. Was the driver. More important in your in our teaming Mercedes as the contractor because of Mercedes Mercedes and B. Goal Yam constructed east coast tractor. That is the biggest to be honest to I I. He wanted the both as much as possible. Time felt great. Yeah so then the the proper job the delivered the Under percent for me was author championships which started in two thousand. Can you now describe what it was like like just to ride that wave of success with Ferrari and how you kept the motivation up and what was it like. Yeah we didn't winning from starting from scratch or starting from not naught. Winning situation and having to win is is a big big P.. Cough satisfaction motivation. But I found found longways much more difficult to keep the the winning process ongoing. Because a case it's not that they're gonNA get Satisfied by the result or people as like less motivated or people leaving and because of you are winning and they can go in Nice position in other teams are becoming more and more and more difficult every year to mundane the winning path. He's become more and more difficult and again. You need to work lake. We did the serious. You need to work together. Like doing a Mercedes in in January we go outside. Today's we. We talked to all the other day right tho-those and we discussed about the the next target and we discussed about how to reach the and one of the big discussion was. How can we carry on winning? What do we need to do and again a lot of activities quite similar from outside at least dominance you had with Ferrari in dominancy had with Mercedes in terms of numbers aren't massively different? How success success is similar to how different the two experiences success who senior but the The two experiences are not that far fire because again in Ferrarin they winning during the winning time. There was a group of people and Ross Creating short of Shell around Sarah that was managing in coping with the pressure. That will the Italian environmental say I level Bhatti's inevitably elite wanted to create. Because yes he's through. There is more pressure over all the rules. I don't now. There was more pressuring Ferrari. Then I must say this for example and is the media responsible for some of that. The Italian media does that. Do you fail as Ferrari employee. Yeah you fielded heeded. I felt it because The the Ferrari must-win must-win all racism as twin all championship. He's always in the center of the millions of passionate people. Looking at you and wanting you to win so you feel you feel this pressure and Yeah there was a group of people protecting the engineers to feel the correct pressure and there was Armani between people those somehow it was created an atmosphere very similar. To what what. What is the atmosphere ear? For example for few years Sir it was it was good so there are quite a lot of similar color activities and quite a lot of senior resort for for bad emerson is the the pressure is A. We don't need these big shell around around on the team because there is less pressure there is less pressure from the board. The there is less pressure from Daimler and the pressure awesome. I sort of a nice sporting pressure that everybody will face are applying in the job But you don't feel the nasty for pressure from outside. How interesting interesting and you think being located in England helps I think so? Oh Yeah I think so. Yeah I think it helps in in general develops to keep the group. Coleman met work miniver consistent manner so there are very little chelation. Let's say up up and down very consistent mode and then the you ask engineers to develop a new ideas to aim. I do a Milonga and you need to allow them to To fail and you need to be happy at the two times they fade and you need to trust them for the following challenge if you apply pressure and you want to keep the pressure because you you want we next race next race engineers normally they tend to to not be so crowded even put deliver something that is safe eram something that is a more short there and then these will influence your development pace. So that's why you need to protect them. You need to leave them thinking you you you leave them trying hard than the aim and then you manage duties now of the five years that you did. The double has in constructors and drivers at Ferrari two thousand three to two thousand four inclusive which was the most satisfying season for you. That will probably the first one was an unbelievable emotion because because I can't Jimena event twenty odd years that Ferrari didn't do that and probably the chosen for those in four tours. Uh again an impressive car and impressive are these are the greatest memories. And we've talked about Mike who but there was obviously Had the same teammate. Throughout that period Rubens Barrichello of how much credit should rubens take the his parts. What's in those championships? Reuben see tried. He tried out for a year. The Mike or teammate teammate. which is not that easy to be a problem? Technical ability people tell where he was very very very he was I remember that This car time at the very nice nice feature so from from this point of view and from the ending interview and you were contributing to the successful Ferrari bye bye trying to yet to develop things on the set up a bit Where more interesting to to Michael and thanks? Yeah they have been used. 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Yep So for me the Yeah when I came here December twenty eleven his you know I my last Few weeks in Harare the they were not very pleasant Yeah we had to Mr Montezuma that wanted to do a change but the change was managed quite violently and we were an acceptable to drop down as technical director and do something as Ferrari and then I immediately in the same they left. We accepted waiting in Ferrari as many other people have done waiting for the next job so I came out from very very very upset of course and yet we we. We should have our revenge in a we should to to bilden either of strong experience. Alec D- You feel that you were the full guy for Alonzo Alonzo failing to to win the championship. Ferrari do feel Montezemolo felt he needed to blame somebody in you with the person who ended up to two hundred state. You don't know what Uh what happened because no one explained to me so it was. Who is a so saddened after you arrive? In December. Yeah we. We lost the championship. Liberal use temporary the last race but we one thousand ten five races with the Landau Lando so very close to win. The championship contract renewed an offer of a pat on the shoulders. IAGO job in in a few months after especially after a bed Barcelona. Racer you receive these news that Okay you're not any more they can go direct or you will do something else in the company no-one never explained me walked wall. Tappin was a quick communication from Stefano Gomez Kelly never spoken with the Montezemolo never spoken. Can we the my own show or any one of the company did Steffano try and explain to you I was it was a quick communication. I'm I'm a friend of Stephanos still now but in that moment was just a quick communication with no bigger reasons just Because of race was bad than the the championship for starting the Bedlam how straightening to ended what had been such such a fantastic period of your life until until then yeah was The deforestation remains after sixteen years Of Success and for me were very very difficult time for a couple of months. He's like a AH being Ghana I speed train and all of a sudden you find yourself in the station. Steady and your brain is is carrying on to Gordon. The speed of the train. So you you have for weeks and weeks and weeks steeler you're thinking of the project that we're being developed for the midseason developmental. You think why what happened why it happened in that. been the and you haven't gotten I answer. Did it affect you love a former one. Did you want to work in this business. He thought they thought and they have to say the extra mile was coming from my wife. I remember when she said to me. That my story inform one does not audible to be finished lay that she was pushing me to find another solution. The don't worry about the family. Unit to have your revenge for me was a fundamental that support and and local friends get the messages and beautiful messages from everybody and yeah was very very emotional time but these are response of All the people that like you and and gave me the you know the train to go ahead and to find another challenge and I guess your wife formula on his. All she's known is that right. Yes yes she. She's not a fan of four and no. She's not the firemen there. She is supporting me for the last thirty one years. Addison is even greater what she has because she's not a fan of motor racing to roster did Ross pick up the phone to you or the first one was par Williams. Was this same day the same day that the price was saying. Okay because the drop down as a technical that car immediately on the phone would you like to come here to To work in our team and a went to three days after Williams for for an interview then Saito total was involved with Williams back. Then no not yet. I didn't seek no not yet. What did you think of Williams? Yeah at the time it loser meters reporting interview and I was quite Quite keen strangely NAFTA A was. I had it to work together with Mike. coughlan again was back except it's a very small world. Yeah and yeah for it was a was fine and but then yet talking with also remember he went in for the Marmi Fora Laura for dinner and yet there. We started to the rim a possible collaboration and they was explaining the project addict than for me was literally are working with him. Working with Michael working with such a group like a dime there would would such good. We chauffeur progressing investing and building a strong team for me was really Is What we call a no brainer no-brainer. Is that how it was absolutely. Yeah nobody I know so. I stopped all the other contact. I add and yeah I I went there. Were you nervous about coming to live in England again strangely enough in my life. I never considered the idea to living about is a strange time role but only to go to racy erasing Zinger because I never moved my family from Parma in my life. So I'm the king of commuting the property and and thought to come here. I remember interview an interview with but Simmons. I can't quote that. He told when he was at Rhino and he said to be Though you yeah. You're working in Ferrara but if you cannot say you have really really worked enough one if you are not coming at least once in England work for English team so I did it. Take that book the books but how you live. You've been living in Oxford. I've never been to Palmer. I eat a lot lord of the Ham. How does Oxford compared to power? Do you feel at home. Yes absolutely I feel at home. Tom then it was looking to found find environment to where my family could At Cam to England and find himself at home and they think it was A bit Under predicting the result because once selected a nice house in Oxford and the in the center and I had seized. He's then the the owls are full of people for for seven years full of people so my wife issue was coming ten days a month and then my daughter she was here at no say this working with HR for few months and with the boyfriend and my son with a girlfriend. France and full of it's better full on L. E. Experiment. Yeah so you get the band back together. You Ross Michael. How different was Michael? Second time around compared to his Ferrari days my income. Michael is a person who was the same Mike. Mike will be the same motivation towards very. I was very pleased to work with him again. You you will use a with Nico. He was a struggling. He was struggling a bit more about the performance. In general you've which is a normal thing and natural thing and this is what you need to. Except it was the first time in his life that he'd struggled against a teammate. Do you think he did. He find that particularly hard. I think he was trying to find ways over where we e could could catch up and Starting back to leading leading time of performance so he was In that in that moment of his career where he was needing to understand the we graphically effectively was. And then when you know how you were saying it took until nineteen ninety eight four Ferrari to really really have it's everything under control in Maranello and producing everything for Maranello. How long did it take given that? This team Mercedes was born in two thousand nine. It didn't have any resource by then. How long did it take Mercedes g think to really hit its stride and become the force that it is today? Wait for me is Yeah unfortunately dame when did the bountieme lost stories of people was not only the people the number of people whose as well a big stop. I thought In terms of capability development Big Stop in terms of the ability to do things from the mindedness. From from the day by day development that was limiting the development of the team and the I E R non for two years it was the legal team that operating and the couldn't reach good and these was a deck acknowledged that That kind of model was not a winning model so the time diner with rose decide okay. This is not the model that we need to to follow. We need to both people capability investment in general and and and then they climb being started when we talking twenty eight twelve to end the point during recognizing it in twenty ten and twenty eleven and starting with the new aiming for dinner for a new model twenty-second part of twenty seven. Twenty seven. Yeah so your first full year was twelve twelfth. At what point I mean were you guys focusing on twenty fourteen the new regulations or is that your main focus from the moment you know no no no no there was There was a focus on twenty twelve. Of course more details and local performance aspect and then the full focus on twenty thirteen car which was the last The last V eight but the big effort wordly subduing up. Almost three cars. IMBERA took the roses till the twenty twelve development and twenty thirteen already already has developed and yes starting the twenty fourteen car and these were the key starting very very early powertrain very early and ashes. Well very very early with with as well Starting good new capabilities abilities For Day I breathe engine for the I the car in general to then do twenty four TNR. ID on IMPRAC. We'd we'd have already running and reliable enough although how funny when you join Mercedes. You're working on three cows us and as you leave Mercedes you're working on three years. Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's funny. I asked you which your favorite favorite years were when you were dominating with Ferrari I want to ask you the same question now. Yeah with Mercedes of since two thousand fourteen which has been the most enjoyable royal the most rewarding season Probably the There are two for two different reasons. One is the twenty fifth the car and season last the last V eight we did. We did a big step from thief. I think in the championship we became second and we were much closer to red bull and Yeah we the tractor. We were better than theory so that that car was the first Biegel satisfaction also because people are very proud oude issue put side to side twenty twelve twenty thirteen twenty thirteen. They all group at the as I mentioned before a a big jump. We'd quite an auto frisks to manage the big jam porn on any kind of technology in every area of every. Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. So that's one. It was the year where we had for example just to give one example the the yearbook so into take aluminum cassette surrounded by a carbon structure In these days most of the yearbook. She's like that in that particular carry was the first time for one so such a layout that was a big you. It was a big risk or suspension design. Starting having you know lower wishbone very very well. It does an idea like that. Come from elder. Whose idea is it turns I tell you what looks like? Yearbooks by one person who comes up with conversation no kid can be both can be anything We Yeah we spoke with any time our out to improve Asian. What would would you to take out his ideas from the group and can be anything it we we've got working groups that are focused on our shift? Tornado of the car are and the indies working groups. They they are free to to propose anything they want to go. Even add the so the they are fully pose a a possible for delivering better better product. So they feel engaged people they feel capable to contribute they in these producer occasionally came from the chief designer John. So no I remember for sure but Yeah normally as a starting point idea and then they will group Japanese and then the article. Ada deeper and deeper way fascinating. So that's one thing Saint Louis successfully but yeah we Do you need to have complete. The puzzle is what they used to remember. People who with two three elements of the puzzle are not there. You cannot win so you need to have everything that these top level. And in that particular case he it was not vacations who we were still not mature enough as a knowledge of the group to deliver around successful championship. Kinship on the opposite the Tappan Straightaway in twenty fourteen. And yet the that was the year where awarding was a maximum for me going for the team in on the podium main Bahrain. That was the key moment of twenty fourteen gene and of the six years of success that have followed which has been the most satisfying. Aw I think as I mentioned before it was The difficulties were going Each year because Day ed our train formless stayed the same so the other manufacturer could catch up the the advantage. We add more. What is more than that so we had to push much harder on either aspect of the car toward the sort of continuous The process and at both house Where we are in this moment and he should get twenty fourteen? Why we won and Twenty Eight D? No we won't yeah. There are different aspect to. Let's say a key element of the Victorian. Sorry so when you look back I mean although over your thirty one seasons in Formula One when you oh you happiest I think Year at Mercedes in these last few years for me was I sort of out of there was a brilliant experience. Yongan very motivated Learning everything and then than Ferrari was Yes solely the delivery of a lot of things and the Utah satisfiction for the championship but the year. He's he's a learning for from my own mistakes that they've done in Minardi Ferrari engineer with Israel as a person as the manager for me I was able again together with with that Nice Group of people to deliver the best four months of older group and myself as well. I'm not only for few years. You have looked very happy here. Yep like having a good time and I guess the success helps doesn't it but but he is a the change of mentality. Yeah people that know me. We have many talion engineer senior year and some of them the the the coming from Ferrari and they say that I'm more smiling year than at Ferrari that I look more relaxed. They look more Yet less stressed are they right they are they are right there right. And he's he's a because of the pressure differential pressure but there's well having learned that it's much much better to to drive the people with this mind to create. The Very Ramona's grow people are coming in the morning and they are smiling wiling to you because they are I p two together. So he's he's I strongly believe in this moment in this model I i. I ate the model of anger. Poll of all shouting people paints people. I'm I'm convinced they don't deliver the best and as a group. They don't deliver what they can. which has been the most rewarding awarding set of regulations to work on for me the the current one because a fan of form? Lana I he likes to be in a year. Where the car? The fastest of all time engineer. I am a final foreign of Fuss Oscar. I like these white cars with the performance fastest as ever play the light particularly when you oh you do things when because goes back five seconds or something that so when they made the faster a few years back up I iced up some very fascinated as a designer Do you get a lot of ideas from other racing cars or is it other the aspects of life. You look at aeroplanes and say. Why don't we try? That is a disaster monitoring. The other a couch is one of the constant that aspect and you need to be able to look at the at the defunct warrior. I remember yeah for many years myself was walking Franck and you can see as well Adra New way away going from watching toward the Carson joking around will people when they wanted to stop you looking. At their castle it was sorta the full mechanics round the back of the car seat so it was sort of nicer mention a name. Actually I was going to ask you about it. Yeah Yeah Adrian your respect for him For the work he does and as a as a rival as well. Yeah he is uh he has done a very very huge big careering enough one and I was definitely the first one to to see these cars when he was at Leighton House and they was at banana this for he was already one of the people to target to learn from and then Cadogan with the again pushing alternate structures that he has done a long all those years old. They're metal denied me developments and old the new technology that he has brought together with these groups in you have a lot of respect of Did you ever get close to working with Adrian at any point no no not Not Really No. It's interesting though that light light you. Adrian loves driving a Lotus forty nine. Go too late and how the media tell me about your passion for driving because I'm what have you driven yet. So my my my Bashan you go in your life cycle toward the Yeah Yeah University and then work family young kids so you don't do anything and then when you arrive at forty s old you start Um running cycling swimming so well I guess I served as well as yes. I did my first formula. Ford the Training Corps so younger go kart drivers in age. Forty eight four. Did your your wife say that you had a midlife crisis. Property issue sold about and it was at Serra when the Vandy the other nice thing Any manager could select One two things to do to improve. There's a manager as a person and a lot of people they wanted to go in USA to do some management courses on and the I wanted to do Former driving course. Do you look at me any of its trays. But that's what they did. And what you quick. Yeah is yours. Yeah it was I was at it was happy. Of course they were A GO-CART Drivers fifteen sixteen. Can you hold the first car training course about Yahoo faster than me. It was defending myself. Quite well yeah. It was happy happy. Go and what about the F one cars you've driven because you've driven some Mercedes seventy yet the Mercedes but before that there was a long preparation because Yeah this story. Is that nine thousand. Nine hundred nine The the chief designer owes me twenty nine year sold and it should drivers Martini. Twenty twenty nine years old and our buddy at twenty nine years old so we became as you can imagine very friend very friend then. The law is a from Parma. To I kept seeing our my life. Yes strangely enough for myself. Follow and Giampaolo Dilara whenever our mandate were looking for one speeches they were inviting Eh. Our three we were in contact at a certain point. The to me that I think you then yeah form mm afford the training course and the Ferrari old cutter Printing Gore says well to proper appreciate what you're doing doing Unit to the Formula One car so yeah E. I went with him on track and Naik was testing radical trying radical and then after a radical of formula three old Chevron in the And then after that. I jumped into nineteen eighty-one abusive and Alan Jones. So Williamsom race winner no less and Komo gentler not as more and then in Imola Ferrari three twelve be from clear again soon in nineteen eighteen seventy and again chew cast it Do Can the completely rebuilt the than the prepared in beautiful way we we the group of Parma mechanics and and Yeah so I tested the tried. Those cars So for me was was a good preparation and then coming year Tautou knew that they they was very happy to to test car and into try cars and we did the million together myself in total own. It is UNAMERICAN Anna and after that Minardi Spoke with Doto asking for carrying any mortar. During the Minardi Day in the last six seven years out of these doing the Minardi. That's a really nice. They have you gone back to that day every year. The Minardi Day yet was during the day that he was running Detroit. Twelve hundred okay. So okay was not an official documented thing also was. It was a Mercedes running Ferrari. So was that White White that myth and off we go and then. That's that's when you got to drive. The mess Mercedes was yeah. It was a the twenty thirteen car to the last V. Eight of the car that won on Yemeni races and the county was very proud of was an hour in the morning after noon. And was I found last week experience. I had a smile in my face. My wife was saying for at least two weeks constant and do you think driving makes you a better engineer. Yeah I think Yes Paolo Solo was right. Not because I could feel they understood year over steer because I I'm nowhere near close to the limit as the preparation dryer but things like yeah. I'll dry very well or not stalled stoled in the in the cockpit. We check the things that I'm like. It mediate off of for Karen Station To The for sure yet we preparation you need to do How did you need to to be when driver is saying that? He's he doesn't like what what what does it mean mum to all of that was pretty clear for me. Clear for me and in terms of driving You just appreciate how these these guys are Colin. Dr Because you are so far from them that you have the feeling that they are not coming from these ward. So had Louis being there at Imler. How much faster do you think he would have been or? Yeah Yeah I feel. Nah I I think Your people with John the chief designer John Owen. He said the mall. Do you have to go not look more than twenty seconds lower nothing more than twenty seconds and they did so I would is broken between fifteen and fillet that. Yeah well although it's been such a wonderful career to have observed from the outside assigned seat on your success all those many wins and world championships. But you're moving to Delara. Going back home can live. I've seen more of your family. I get how are you taking your foot off the throttle little bit. You're going to be as busy with Laura. What's the role is is a thought to thought it was saying in in one of the last two press releases saying that those Building fire for motoracing is not Ended and yet they is like may my passion. My fire for racing is not Is Not ended by for me is a going to the Larry's like assault of closing the circle of my experience he was. He didn't say that to you but he was the first guy to I ask cajal once certain way to the and he was the guy that was telling me. I haven't got any pushy. The Bat about cloudy Lumbar. The is looking for what an engineer go there and try to have an interview and then I went there are employed and for six months was working on rally cars on Hyundai lunch. They'll think as Strategy Near and then Minardi called me and I jumped to to the Minardi team so yeah he was the first one I've been in contact with deemed for thirty years Full of respect for his career a year is his company. And and for me going back to that is like As I said closing the full cycle what my life life. What's the job going to be? Are you going to look over everything or you're GonNa have a specific championship. You're going to look I would be the A. CTO Of the of the soy will be charged for the technical activity So the spectrum is quite wide because is a it is going from the single-seat Formula that the allies producing us are quite quite a few of them too. racy get like lemon or even if one or the development of a high-performance Vehicle Lake Stradella need a ladder or cousultation she for OEM's so very very wide spectrum of activities. which is the thing that really? I like so. I don't want to be focused. Only a one but I want to push the All of them and again doing Sort of fourth cycle of my life contributing yelping from the county wants to move. The group toured an I.. R. Leveling Term Organization Technical Organization mythology design process. She is a capabilities so that is what I aim to do for the next part of my life. Well although it's been it's been wonderful. Career Mercedes is going to miss you. Formula One is GonNa miss you and older remains for me to say thank you very much free time. It's been wonderful to chat yet. Thank you very much I I will miss a Mercedes and all the friends and all the people here So he will keep all my memory marine time to time. I'm sure that they will come back to have some sort. Should activity together with my friends. Thank you thank you thank you. What an incredible guy so modest and yet clearly so knowledgeable and capable hateful? I love this reflections on life at Minardi and some of the giant killing performances and it was also fascinating to hear about life at Ferrari and the pressures is that exists there late eighties technical director. James Allison who appeared on this podcast earlier in the year Aldo places. A lot of emphasis on the work. Ethos Mercedes and on the word team he just gave great insight from start to finish. Thanks for your time although it was great to catch up and good luck at the lower. Well that's so we have time for in this episode. We'll be back next week with another big name from the world of f one until then why not subscribe to be on the great if you haven't already where all of your favorite podcast apps including apple and spotify and thanks for your feedback about last week's episode with Mika Hakkinen like me many of you were enthralled by what the Flying Flying Finn had to say. He just had so many great stories. 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109 - News Update: Serious Business

"Hello everybody and to shift F one a podcast about speedy race cars I am drew scanlon joining me is Danny O'Dwyer our you danny. I'm doing great true. Miss Racing Party is coming back and I was wrong. This whole time and I've never been so happy well. Let's wait till their tires on tracks. What do you say? Also joining us. ME. How are you rub? That bad also glad to see Danny was wrong. Though like you I'm waiting to see. Let's get a couple of those races under our belts and make sure the dreaded cove rebound doesn't happen, and then we'll have a season then it's on. Yes, agreed if you just found this. Wonderful Sport called Formula One. We have a an episode designed for newbies. That is probably. Much more useful I think now as we get closer to the designated start time. That explains this entire sport from top to bottom. So, if you'd like some context for all of this episode, Ninety six and for new to the PODCAST. Right now we're deviating from what we normally do. In these episodes, which is like a pre-race build up a post race debrief, but we do want to keep everybody up to on the news that there is such as it is so this week we're focusing on news listener emails. But as we get closer to the season, we're going to start getting back to our normal normal rhythm, which actually it'll be a much faster than we'll get to the calendar I guess. But Yeah this show is also supported entirely by our audience over at Patriot dot com slash shift F. One where every month we release bonus podcast episodes exclusively for our patrons that cover racing documentaries and films, primers, rather series and other weird things, so if you like sports, show and get access to all of that along with early access to the video content that we do on our youtube channel head over to Patriot dot, com slash shift, F, one or click a link in the show notes What's going on this month? Danny Yeah We. We've almost got nine hundred patients as well I just want to thank everyone especially during these uncertain times for for helping us out and keeping, US keeping us well funded. We really appreciate it. We do have a an unlock. If we had thousands that we're going to go for a drive somewhere a circus at actually racing. We still plan to do that if we had a thousand, so we're GONNA. Keep my eye on. That one is the the season starts at this month's Patriots. Exclusive podcast is one that just kind of popped up out of nowhere I had heard it was being made, but it just got released on Hulu. It is the formula e documentary and Wego Green. Friendly on the planet, fierce on the track has the subtitle says. Yeah. It's got a bunch of. Drivers and journalists I follow and stuff like that in it, and it's all about the sport, and it's been well received so far looks beautifully shot, so I'm looking forward to check in that. We'll be recording it in. Not next week the following weeks. You've got a bit of time to watch US ahead of ahead of our recording. which will be open later on this month I believe in the UK is also on. Channel Four Oh. Cool, okay, so if that's the case, then you should probably be able to pick it up on four od, which is Shana. Four is on demand service which if you have a? License in the UK. You have access to. For odd four odd yeah, it is an odd channel to our big brother started. Channel Four is weird. Is that where they have? You ever heard of. If I talked about this before naked attraction. And where they the they go on a date naked. No I think that's called dating naked. China to also sex box, which is the one where they had people go into a box to have sex marriage and talk about us. John has just out there. What's naked attraction? It's. They have like A. Like a a male contestant, a female contestant there in like two different. Segments of the show. Okay like the. Actually, no, that's not the case it's like. So like one one person is like shown a panel of people that they want that. They're like The show is like. Do you want to these people? Okay like they like. Start with their legs. Okay everyone's legs and slowly reveal more of their naked, but these pictures these are real real people standing in a line. Yeah, I've seen this before, yeah! Yeah, and then at the end you see everyone's junk. Including the contestants so whether it's a man or woman. What's that? Wouldn't you see bladder midway through if they're just doing a straight like? Standing on their heads slow moving camera up. So, yeah, by the end of the yeah by the end of the segment. Everyone has been everyone right. But you see the phoenix like a quarter of the way through. That's true. Yeah, okay, and then the actual contestant then comes out naked to. Oh! Okay Yeah. Yeah, it's a real shame that didn't do this. I know. We had some really cool like youtube and twitch stuff from the Formula One community, but it's a real shame didn't just do this. You know just doing episode of this. All the drivers would have been pretty cool. Hell from Meka Rosberg to get banned. Finally. I can imagine the thumbnail for that one. Let's. Let's move on who? Got On that. Was My fault I'm sorry. Sticking to the news, shall we yeah? Patriots patrons, Weird Yeah. Let's go news. Shall I start it, please the twenty twenty season. It's happening. Maybe who knows life is weird and everything changes. Every day will leave here tomorrow. I don't know, but here's the news right now. About the F one calendar, which is still working progress, but is technically locked whatever that means. Fifteen to eighteen races is still the target, but for now we have one two, three, four, five, six seven eight races which have been again. I say with air quotes. But depending on you know your interpretation of what's going on at the moment. The first one will be the Austrian Grand Prix. We are not going to Melbourne. Sadly, we were not going to SPA which I run for the call to the Austrian. Grand Prix two weeks ago. It will be the red bull ring and. What does the? Phrase. Steering that is just a province in Austria. Okay, but it's at the same track. Okay cool. They renamed it something difference, because for some reason just calling at the Austrian Grand Prix again was gonNA mess up. Maybe links will be weird, okay? That's the following week. Their head to head back to back on July nineteenth. Then we have the Hungarian Grand Prix. The second of August after a little bit of a break will be the British Grand Prix in Silverstone. Currently the the vacation spot of covid nineteen, so we'll see if that one last. Night of August we're going to. We're staying in the British conference over sudden for a seventieth anniversary pre. They're calling 'em at the home. Of, F one so that seems appropriate at the sixteenth of August right right following up from that is the Spanish crop, very. And a little bit of a break one week until we do spa on the thirtieth of August and then we have the Italian Grand Prix in Monza on the sixth of September those are all of the locked lakes we have. A couple of other. Tracks, that are sort of their hands up at the moment, so she wants to be involved. No one else wants socio involved, but it keeps raising a ton the back of the class. Ignore it. Nobody's there it should be. Safe and sanitary. Did. They even have stands there. was well. You can maybe do a back to back on monster. Maybe for that I don't know but there they've also put their hands offers as a possible other one one of the big things we're talking about two weeks ago, was the idea of this being a official championship because the rule of course was that you need to race on three continents, and in so doing this one. We would be too short, but thought they have basically. Decided to change the FAA's international sporting codes to make this a unofficial formative one championship, regardless of that particular rule at we're with regards the designation world at notes, the Cup trophy, challenge or series conjure must include competitions taking place on at least three concerts during the same season, however in the unprecedented circumstances of Covid, nineteen pandemic requirements won't have to be met according to Ross. Brawn in an interview over autosport DOT COM, he says in theory, the European races what constitutes a world championship. One other interesting on this was the I guess. The Chase Carey was interviewed on I, think it was formerly one website and about what will happen if in the interim we have positive testing via drivers or teams. And he sort of essentially said the regardless of if pops up, which let's be honest if they test that all those people, it's probably gonNA pop up somewhere. We've already seen the first fight. One of the fighters had it in his team when they were doing all this testing. Abbott, he said, essentially that regardless of if people come back positive, they're still going to go ahead with the show like if one person is positive than than they pull out the whole thing. So they're clearly seems to be a desire to get back to to not scupper anymore. Like as expensive as it is. Have Rice. It's even more expensive to try and put them on. The not have them, and and then I guess the other side of this is the precautions that they're doing to to mitigate this. Should I cover this as well as for example? So I've got some quotes here from our good friend Chase Carey who still has a mustache by the way which I think is probably. Difficult if you're wearing masks wash. Do you think he's going to have like the handlebars poking at the sides? Maybe cut holes in the mass thing. Come out like the front. A, weird tendrils. Mansell's Kasulu Monster. Yeah I liked that. Jay says we will chase. We're not on. I. Am basis quite yet. We will test for you. Go there, then there will be testing every two days. There are processes. If we find an infection, we recognize there's a possibility so we're prepared to appropriately deal with it. If we find a positive infection, we're working our. Infection working on putting in place tracking capabilities. We will have two different tracking options in many ways. It will be like living in a bubble for when you start traveling on charter planes. There will be controlled transportation to Oh tells transportation back and forth from the track and hotels and probably finish. Sub Levels of people who operate different functions on our set up to manage the processes and make sure we have the right protective equipment and social distancing. Clearly, we recognize our sport is one which at times. Two meters between every individuals on the team when a car pulls into a pit and has to change four tires won't be two meters between every individual. We need to make sure we have procedures to manage all those risks as soon as possible. And then we have another article here from the F. One website just talking generally about the. Number of steps that they're taking to ensure the racing is as possible as they're putting out. There will be a significant reduction in the personal. Travel site personnel traveling to races from all parties, including the teams, the FAA suppliers and F one itself tell achieve this some functions of a race weekend. Such as parts of the television broadcasts will be cared remotely. Additionally, those personnel on site will be required to isolate in their respective team units not interact with others, pre and post race activities such as the National Anthem Park Firm. MAY PODIUMS COOLED ED? Rooms will be altered to ensure safe distances can be maintained as we'll. Media, obligations and interviews, of course not mentioned here. Bush, in case. It wasn't obvious enough. There will be no fans after these races. Yeah? Did any of you guys catch any NASCAR or Indycar? That has been happening without fans. No, we have wonderful email last week which i. Which talked about NAS car, but I haven't actually seen any of the I. Think Clips, but haven't watched like a full thing yet. It honestly feels a little like the East sports racists, a little bit like just a little off or for the most part you're like okay. Yeah, this is fine I watched a little bit of the start of the indycar first indy-car race, the season in Texas, they they had all of the commentators in the same room, six feet apart, so they were all like kind of one shots on. Everybody divided up into three. But. They were at the track. everybody in the pit crew had masks on. Yeah. You know it worked. I'm really curious to see I think it'll be even weirder when the one gets it. Gets going just because you know that so much. More logistics had to be done because we're traveling irrational here. Yeah That's where did you see the? Have you seen any of the soccer in Europe? Bundesliga has been back. To yes, so they made like a lot of the stadiums, cardboard, cutouts, fans and stuff. In to like approximated, but one thing they've just started adding. Is essentially like a laugh track like they've added spectator. What actions yet? One hundred or so, so if a goal goes in, there's like there's chance from the fans going because you got a lot in European football. You get a lot of singing and. All that sort of stuff and they also have like like. It's controlled by DJ or something. They have a reactions whenever the goal goes in. The crowd goes wild and all that so. It's pretty interesting. It actually like kind of works, but it's also kind of. It's like it's like watching like friends or something once you. Start, thinking about the laugh track too much. It becomes like super obnoxious, but if you just Kinda let flow over you, it's not it kind of works you know. That's really bizarre. Think so do players here. It is piped over the air I believe it is yeah. It is in the system the because you get cacophonous kind of like. Affect from the. From fromage a must be just that. Maybe they set up some other speakers I don't know. Yeah, it's there. It'd be interesting to see. The game loses something if like that sound isn't there right if it basically has. Of Like A. Entertained back this. You know like scrimmage match, but what spur real like to the players do anything differently, because I think one of the weird things about sports is. There's so much myth making about the importance of support from the fans. And sometimes I'm like. I'm sure that puts and seats, but these professionals right like I'm not I. Do Kinda wonder like. Do they necessarily draw a ton of energy? From it I I can see it I. Can I can I can certainly see. The like how having a crowd there we'll get you fired up and having its absence might just make the entire thing feel a little bit odd of various to see like just what how it would change the game. Well! It's funny because I feel like I. Fought is probably the one artist motorsport genital is not so affected by this. There was one of the things that came up on this. There was watching a video with I. Don't Hawaii was some NASCAR driver and they were talking about doing the indy five hundred and practicing turn one before the crowd got there, and then once the crowd arrived. The corner looked different because there wasn't as much like. The track, so the turn actually looked Looks tighter than it did the previous couple of days and the first time you do indy. It's really weird. Taking turn one because it and it takes like five or six last few to get passed out so i. find that interesting, but in terms of the sound stuff there's been a load of very interesting things happening in other sports with the stuff you could hear the players talking which was really interesting, but I was speak German so I unfortunately didn't get to appreciate a lot of, but in you have see. They had a really interesting situation. Where on the first fight especially? The commentators are are. Ex, fighters or crimefighters and Daniel Cormie was talking about like a specific move that the person should do in this situation because they keep getting needs, and they keep like they have left us open, and after the Feis the fighter said I heard DC saying Bash and incorporated into my game plan. Fighters could hear the commentators, not just not just their their corners, the other coroner here honors it's. Totally that like hotness. So just start using codes. The company headed to commentators because the corners do a coroner's use. A lot of you know all the Astros now. So I'm not sure how much Sissel Affect Ephron in that respect. Was You know yeah I mean? It's just wild you don't. I mean. You almost can't hear the audience at all anyway because of the engines, so I mean I see it was soccer because like you kick a ball into the net and then. Silence that doesn't make sense. Basketball a crowd. Like. Also yeah. You're right. It would just be squeaks the most annoying sound ever, yeah. Like high level basketball in a freshman, course is an. Awkward sound with the entire thing sounds weird. Hate us. Even I don't know like. I think one of the other weird things I can see like into degree. You can feed off crowd unachieved I bet you the bigger problem is tuning it out like for concentration, but also. Not In getting grandiose just from like. When when you think a couple of like really great shots and the crowd chanting your name, there's gotTa. Be a part of you. That's like. You know this is my moment I'm just Gimme the rock. I'M GONNA take every shot. And, then you just you know face, plant or something. Like you're like Lebron James, or like you're you're sort of power. You know the dominator of the course. Yeah! It's like I wonder what that NASCAR effect of there. Not being crowd and and the coroner feeling different God basketball must feel really strange if you don't like. They must feel like you're. The center of attention closed in with all the crowd on top of you without any of those almost feel so bizarre. I wonder that's. We'll get a glimpse at insane, right. Because really Zambia coming back. Yeah, they're converging teams. Like isolated I think campus in Orlando and are just going to ask abroad island. Yeah, that's that's basically it. So we will see how that goes, but. Trying trying new things out, drew. I think you have very little taste of what is going to look like. Yeah, so Mercedes did a private test at Silverstone. To sort of get a handle on the covid nineteen protocols that fund will be running with. And they actually had to do it with a twenty eighteen car. With no current parts being trialed. According to autosport, so they wouldn't break any rules, so they wouldn't break any rules. Amazing amazing, so according to Motorsport Mercedes completed a number of altered procedures pair for the Austria race weekend, including a full grids start the grid procedure will be heavily revised for the closed events, ensuring only essential personnel are present. All Team members wore facemasks the track. While a larger full face shield was used by engineers when in close contact with Botas in the car, who was a running the Mercedes car that day. Such as when strapping him into the cockpit. Mercedes. Mercedeses test marks the first on-track running by F one team since the end of preseason testing in Barcelona at the end of February. Ferrari will also be completing some private testing in the near future, but McLaren has already revealed. It is unable to run any of its older SPEC. F One cars so funny. I'll. Figure it out on the fly you've they've already sucked all the oil and put in that big room right. Like all the cars they're. collateralized them for a bond issue. They did your age yeah so? Those cars? Probably I would bet you buy I. Bet you by some of the agreements. They entered into with the with financial firms. I bet you those things can't run for a little while. Speaking of. Running cars from odd locations us a one of the ideas being toyed around with so we're GONNA have a weird season regardless, and there were some folks. Ross Brawn among them. Who Thought? Going to be weird season. Why not use this? Also as a testbed for some other radical ideas for changing up what F one looks like and improving the show? A little bit and one of the things that came up was reverse grid races. The idea here being that literally you have back to back racing weekends at the same track, it will be like a repeat of what already just happened that could be a little, monotonous and so. If to avoid sort of repetitive feeling, one of the things you can do is just reverse. The grids for the second race. and. Is that what they were talking about? Or are they talking about having a reverse grid qualifying race? I think it. Was I think it was qualified? Yes, so my understanding is that you have. Your first race and then. Instead of having a regular qualifying session for that second race. You reverse the grid and have a short sprint race. Instead of qualifying and so at the end of that race. That's how you start. Vagrant okay. Sounds good. Yeah that sounds good. That's actually hilarious because you. Can you imagine somebody like tanking themselves on the first race of? The source could. That is one of the reasons that he and a number other team principles like basically block the idea. And Wolf's position was that Some great quotes here. from remarks gave over at autosport I I believe that F one is a meritocracy best man. Best machine wins don't need a gimmick to turn the field around. Create more exciting racing mind. You like six championships in a row. That is talk in action baby. Never to a from touring car racing that strategies become a very useful tool. When one race result is basically making league grid the next one, just imagine one of the drivers, not running well on the Sunday race of the first spillover weekend, and you decide to d. n. f., the car that will be the car that starts from the poll for the quality race, the car starting in poll on the quality races within midfielders he will certainly be on pole for Sunday and win. The Race Ricard. The middle will defend in block as much as they can. Therefore for the quick cards coming from behind, it will be more risk for the NF that could influence the championship. Yeah and that sounds fucking great. Let's do that. No. Like No. I am sorry I think this I think this racing would just be to kick ass, and I cannot have. So now. Here's the funny thing though you know who was behind the idea. Rory. O. Yeah. He Nado? said. We believe at twenty twenty. It will be a difficult season. Anyhow, it's a season that should have started. Estrella didn't start Mr Alia. We start only in July. There are less races some races on the same circuit. Austria, Australia, UK, UK I. Think that we still we need still to try to attract fans. We need to make sure that for the future of F one. We are creating the best show and I think that having the sprint race only on the second race on the same circuit would have been the solution. We can even consider the two thousand twenty would have been the right test platform eventually for an alternative solution for the future. Actually, this is one hundred percent correct. It's actually so. said he was also really not popular with drivers Danny Ricardo. said he thought it sounded bad. said that it's A. It's a position. You probably only hall hold if you watched like on TV but driver is just kind of anathema. Hamilton I think basically had the same position. And I understand all that. But also I am sitting here. With like twenty years of different overtaking committees. Having a crack at making f one a more dynamic and interesting sport like I would love a version of one where I don't need to like a preseason primer. doesn't need. Do quite so much lifting. In terms of hey, now here's stuff you can watch for that isn't on track action. And why one become so interesting I would like if the if the racing sold itself a little bit more and I think my skepticism about reverse grit stuff basically. Melted when I saw W series, run that race Race last year where they reversed the grid that race rule. Because you do have drivers who were just faster and seeing them apply their race craft to card with the field is really good. How much every time an f one driver usually because penalties, we already mess with a f one already messes with starting order all the time to enforce different ideas of fairness. Every time. You know Max or Louis, or anybody starts you know P nineteen twenty because the penalties, and they drive their way to the podium. Everyone's like wasn't awesome. Race that rock. Why would you like? Everyone loves that so just institutionalize or at least use the season to see how it would be It's really frustrating that there was of this knee. Jerk response that. We can't couldn't possibly consider that. You haven't surprising. If todos going to toto can, he's going to make. It is the same that it has been because that's how they won. Oh, it's a meritocracy true, you know. Yeah. Well speaking of keeping things in the favor of other teams. Williams is up for sale. Patriots we got eight, hundred, seventy five. Thousand we by Williams Formula One. Okay Great. They also have split from. Rocket Rocket Dairy title sponsor. Apparently, one of their other sponsors, rocket drink rock rock drink. I don't know if they're affiliated with the both start with capital are okay so. Be Real shame if they weren't you. Drink they maybe the worst. Products Title I've ever heard in my life. As an aside wires, this drinks sponsorship. Sorry ahead. It's cool. I don't really have a lot to go on here except that. Williams is kind of like. The passing of that hundred and forty five million dollar budget cap is. Potentially the thing that that could save Williams because they're. They're really up against it here. They do have taken some loans twenty million dollars. And according to Ross Brawn He says that Williams has quote fairly serious people considering an investment from autosport DOT COM. But the only serious invest informative one. But Clare Williams has said that they do have the funds with which to contest twenty twenty season. so hopefully. You know the loans and a potential buyer. Will secure them going forward? Eddie Irvine Cutback in near Sorry Eddie Jordan Ninety Irvine although actually know if Eddie Irvine has the money he should do I prefer. Money. Actually does how. Who Eddie Irvine Yeah, did he had? For a number of years feel like surprise. Real Estate Mogul, actually in the north of Ireland probably. but you're GONNA wear. I was just going to say to to the point about Williams up for sale. So this is just kind of A. It's A. It's a weird thing because. key Colin Teens Gloss on this over at race. Fans Dot net was then. This is maybe being. over-dramatized in the way it's being covered What what? the Williams. Appears to be looking for and from what Clare Williamson said publicly. What they're really after his investment right what they really want above all is an injection of capital into the game. And that will give them. basically seed money to revamp the operation because they've had bad results for years so they they do need to invest in the company, but they do need to bridge in to this world of. The budget caps, and then some of the performance handicaps, sorry, aerodynamic handicaps, or whatever they're calling it. For you to. Bow To level the playing field a little bit so I'm curious. To me, the the big question is does the Williams. Family wants to stay in this I think they do and I think that's why they investment right. She's always said that they wanted to be the family business for like many who is investing in Williams now after. The clearly, there is like their problem isn't just the money like the problem is. There's something about Williams and the way they operate the way they're structured or something. That just isn't working. It's getting less than what you're putting in so like in Westworld. Is Somebody invested out and leave all of those people in their positions? Yeah exactly like I, think anybody who comes in who is a serious investor, even by the standards of people who are serious because like nobody serious decides I need that one team. That sounds awesome. Immediately you are. You are into the realm of either insult pure marketing play. Or you're just in a I'm rich got silly money. Yeah, exactly. So anybody who is in there to make a profitable and reasonable successful, reasonably successful racing team. Is Hard to imagine them. Going all in with investment, and then signing all that all those resources over to the one family at the stage or at least. Given how the lanes families run of! Of late. To answer your question Danny. Williams Stanley holds fifty two percent of the company American Healthcare Mobile, Brad, Hollinger, and former Williams, technical director Patrick Head hold around. percent and nine percent percent respectively this from. That response, article, that Rob, found and twenty two percent is on free float in Frankfurt. which I believe means that that's on the that's listed on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. And I, believe Brett Hollander the American healthcare. Guy Bought Toto Wolf's share. Okay. So I don't think toto is in it anymore. He's got his fingers in. Enough is at the moment. Things are going way better over us McLaren though there, are they. They know how to make money. They know they how to satisfy their weird sponsors. This from a post on the official Formula One reddish is any official. I don't know and also linked to this. I think in in the shift iphone Patriot. Discordance won't beautiful beautiful people I love. Yes so veto who are a big tobacco product company? I'll say no more. Is a sponsor of McLaren's, and they were putting on a veto ex McLaren racing virtual fan race. That's the official name. And one of the requirements of this race is perhaps the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in my life, which considering the past couple months. Really saying something the details here from the post, the race will be streamed on McLaren's YouTube channel on the twelfth of June seven, seventy-nine, nine British, standard time, but it's summertime. Sorry, so get practicing on the F. One twenty nineteen game. Just a little bit of a little bit of their daughters. Print here for he signed up. Insurance must be twenty five plus and nicotine consumer. In line. With bat commitment to market its product, responsibility and appeal only to its target consumer audience with its range of new category products so smoke if he got him and if you don't. Then I guess you're not allowed in. Some clarification here, but the British American Tobacco as. Yes yeah, and Velo. Which I was. pointed out by Johnny Spike. Company Yeah Johnny Staccato on the. Shift F one Patriot discord. Velo is sold under the brand name lift. l., Y. F. T.. We may have seen on McLaren's car. I always thought that was the rideshare company to. It's not they sell nicotine patches. Wait, that's that's another mission window we've we've uncovered. That's so weird, so I can I can put patches on lead. Slap A. Its Tobacco Free Alternative Danny okay, but it's back at somebody, so I'm just I'm just inject myself with nicotine because I just want I want the the rush of addiction with the enjoyment of smoke in my. In my lungs so I say this is somebody who did smoke for a while. Yeah Okay I is is the thing here that they're not allowed Marcus to people who don't already consumed nicotine. Is that what it is? Yeah? I think the I think the thing is they're they're always dancing. Around is like we're not trying to recruit people, too. Our lifestyle right trying to bring people in and like push nicotine on anybody that. Business we're in but if. You're clarity yeah. Yeah. So it seems pretty. I don't know the like. So much depends on. Tobacco money in some form staying in the sport and it's all through these completely like. Rube Goldberg in of Asians. Right. It's amazing. They go the racist already happened. June, what is it now? Today is the nine okay. Four hundred rate someone up. Lays off and race up. Anyway, so it's A. More serious things. Yeah Yeah. So obviously, we recording this at a strange and fraught time in the world as demonstrations. Demanding justice for George Floyd amid arbitrary and Brianna Taylor are. Happening internationally at this point, and they're also very much. demonstrations against police, violence and normally. This is not necessarily something that would tie into one podcast because F one. Tends to be a space that is very. Willfully. To politics. I would say yes, also a very white, very very privileged in some ways we can. We all remember what happened when their protests in I believe Abu Dhabi. And by and large Formula One. Kind of turned a blind eye to the entire situation and didn't engage with it That is not happening this time. Lewis Hamilton on May thirty first so really near the start of the demonstrations, and around the time, the reaction to the truly horrific video of Minneapolis police. murdering George Floyd. began to circulate Lewis Hamilton posted on social media. I see those of you who are staying silent some of you the biggest stars you stay silent in the midst of injustice, not assigned from anybody in my industry, which of course is a white dominated sport I'm one of the only people of color here they're. Only, people of color there yet, stand alone. I would have thought by now. You would see why this happens and say something about it, but you can't stand. Stand alongside us just no I know who you are and I see you. Which is probably the most pointed and confrontational Statement Hamilton has made. He's become more of an activist in recent years, particularly on matters of environmental justice, but this one of the first times. That! He spoke out so forcefully about these issues and also criticized his sport and his ears. And that. Does appear to have driven some change in the discourse within F. One a lot of the younger drivers were notable for how they did. Join Hamiltons call for justice but one of the other things that they. Generally cited on this was. Alban Leclair A few other drivers. Generally. They all acknowledged that. F One drivers speak from a position of great privilege, and it can be hard also to know. When are their voices? The correct ones too long conversation, but they did concede this was a place where they didn't did need to make their voices heard our. They did need to take a position in support of people demonstrating for their for the human rights and dignity. And that prompted a lot of other people in formula, one to also issued statements of support. A toto of you know issued a statement of support for. Hamilton inside, so it really has been striking the degree to which. This. This issue in these these demonstrations have really breached the boundaries that a lot of companies generally placed around matters of race and social justice and police violence. I think. while. This is not one podcast. We all come from the games industry. I think we all vividly. Remember in two thousand fourteen. Two things happened in two thousand fourteen. The paid, the basically overlapped one very very particular to the Games. Industry was Gamer Gate, but the things happening at the same time. What was the Ferguson protests? And back in two thousand fourteen, it was striking. How much? The Ferguson demonstrations were treated as a political controversy and avoided by. Just about everyone corporate America. By a lot of people had platforms, but weren't necessarily sure that they should use them to say anything about these issues. There was a lot of hesitation about taking a position because it would be somehow seen as waiting into a controversy Two thousand fourteen, and when you have now, Lewis Hamilton and what appears to be a consensus women at one that. Is An issue. Where not only is it worth taking a stand and striking position? But it's also effectively mandatory that morally. It can't be docked as these things have traditionally been. That does seem to mark. A sea change. Yeah, big time I felt like when especially back in those days in in in gaming that like the whole idea of people injecting their politics. Into stuff was was very much on the of a lot of people's tongues were kind of upset by it and even now I just feel like isn't the case anymore? It's not it's not so you know. The the signaling sort of criticism that's often came up. Is Now more you know? weirdly right wing call that has made and not something. that. Most people kind of think so. Yeah! It is dark. I remembered the Bahrain stuff vividly. Just post sort of twenty fifth and Talk Radio Square. Every night was going on in the Middle East, and there were some drivers I'm trying to remember was was. I. Feel like like Ricardo was his first season. Maybe some one or two of them. We've said something about it, but it wasn't. Until the I think the Saudi tanks across the bridge, and it became dangerous that they pulled out event that year and it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't canceled out of sort of a a protest earning like that. I almost want to bring it up what it was the biggest story at the start of this. Did you see the will books and stuff that happens? Yes at the top of their so I'll I'll talk about briefly because it's I feel like it's kind of past at this stage, but it's worth I guess including a little bit so Buxton. Put out a statement. I think just prior to Hamilton's one, and then he got really irked by. Louis saying I see those of you who are staying silent. Some of your biggest stars, yes! He's Buxton basically like kind of quote tweeted or quote instagram than not sure what the Texas Hamilton's thing and criticized Hamilton for ignoring what will had said. WHOA, yeah, which isn't. Text here. Read the room you do. So. Yeah Hamilton's message saying I see some of you are staying silent to this will bucks and says no sign of anyone in your industry. Look again. For a decade and a half open your eyes. We see we feel. Don't cast us out. Yeah so not exactly. What about books? So. He ended up getting like pretty. Lambasted by people on twitter and instagram over it, and he kind of he got like two defensive over the whole thing and ended up just kind of like. Social Media Yeah. He did a little bit, so it was. It was like it was kind of like a like a bad look day for will boxton. Hopefully he'll take it as a as a learning experience. But. Yeah that was that was kind of the first I seen some of this, but it was cool seeing somebody other drivers I saw Charlie Panetta statement. That felt really. appropriate. Yeah, so it's a whole whole different world. It's strange seeing this new generation of. Protesters. You see this new generation who are really pushing. It feels like the overton window is moves a couple of years ahead in the past few weeks, but even looking at. F, one drivers that new generation who have drivers. We've been celebrating as being fun and you know. kind of like. Chatty and fun, but each other and lighthearted out there like. Yeah, it's totally do, and it's cool to see that they're also sort of you know hopefully. GonNa lead the charge on on opening their ads in where we're. Others have stayed silent. Yeah wonder if there's also dynamic of. Ferguson twenty fourteen like. One of the weird things is if you've grown up on social media, you've had probably some of the formative years of your life watching. Just shocking videos of misconduct, right and abuse of demonstrators abuse of ordinary people who get in the path of the wrong police in the wrong place, wrong time and I think. One of the really striking things about what's happened over the last week is. In general I think everybody used to head coach and take the attitude that we don't have the whole story. We don't know what you know. It's tough to we. We just WANNA. Be Reactionary the police. The police have their story to like from their perspective it. It probably looks like this after the. Shock of the George Floyd! Video, but then also the dismal spectacle of a week of police, facing demonstrators, demanding that police clean up their act and responding those demonstrators with just indiscriminate use of force and violence That I think does change the nature of how she was discussed and treated right. It's no longer a question of others to valid positions here. Says no longer a partisan issue or shifty. Yeah, it's yeah you can have the benefit of the Dow Tony stretches so far. Yeah, I, it's it's shocking to see. Just how I I was taken aback by how how blatant the use of power that the flakes were using in protesters given the optics of all this I was just thinking like. If that's what you're willing to do, when when yes the one thing expecting not to do then and all these camera phones are pointed at you so wild. These sense of impunity. Exactly you're an as to recourse to violence Like there's no way to look at this and not thank. A police forces that do this and this happened nationally, so it's not just a Minneapolis police issue. This happened basically everywhere. Police confronted demonstrators It is hard to see all of this is impossible to see all of this and think that. How the United States treats policing right now is healthy or correct society like it is possible that like society needs some form of policing. It does not need these police. I think Lewis was smart to point out that like you know America's not the only place that has racism. And I. I think you know sports. By virtue of the fact, that Formula One is such an international sport. It has a real opportunity to to you know At least the people drivers have a real opportunity to sort of. Really Force. People look at this you know. I think there's a very. Common reaction is to sort of had this knee-jerk defensive. response to write bucks just did like well. It's not it's not me, you know. And I think! Yet you know! Kudos to all. Those guys for for saying something and and again sort of forcing people to To really confront this and I think. There are way more important things than from the one happening in the world today, but like I think that Formula One is a part of the world, right? So. It's an oddly like unifying spores like it's. It's. It's a strange. It's Kinda reminds me of like soccer where it's international. It's kind of cross like like you. Class I guess you know it to me. It feels like like a fairly. Working Class Force in England as much as it is also a large caters in terms of spectator for sure it was on the BBC. Like broke us on one of like five channels. My family had like it is a bizarrely. You have bizarrely a vibrant cross section of people. Considering how? Niche this sport is. So, totally like it's, it's it's. It's but I I also think that I iphone is more exposed than many sports in relation to its ideology. Given where it's money's coming from given where a lot of its racist go on. Especially, even the expansion era. That ECCLESTON kind of had and putting his tracks in places that no one had them before. So yeah, I think it's it's interesting we'll have to see. How F one evolves even further, it's it's crazy. We were looking forward to the twenty twenty rags and the new cars, and the looks like actually having to adopt and lots of other ways because of what's been going on this year. Yeah I am. I hope that. That if one actually I saw Ross Brawn, saying something like you know we have. You know initiatives to in grass racing to try to expand the diversity of you know. I'm not just drivers, but engineering and and everything. So I I hope that. I hope that. That really means These things can just kinda. Come and go. And I think if if maybe you are someone who Seeing this from afar. You Know I. Think we all need to take a look and see what we can do about this. Because again it's this is a worldwide. Thing that is about not it's about more than politics. It's about humanity. But I think being part of being effective in that fight is to take care of ourselves to and with that in mind We're going to keep doing this silly race car sports podcasts so absolutely and Jacksonville housing world to. Talk to you too is the only way we get to hang out. Some emails Jersey Shift home podcast that GMO DOT COM or if one dot com slash emails if you're one of the cool kids. I E mail comes in from Dean. WHO Says Hey guys? Thank you for answering my first email in your last podcast on a roll here. I haven't even morpheus so recently. Toto was very open about questions. We all have had during the silly season. Total confirmed that they're. He has no interest in women to ask, Martin, which automatically means that he's staying Mercedes according to Dean and waste Mercedes won't quit that easy either meaning that Lewis is going to snatch one or two or more. Raw Championship. WDC's unretire. Secondly total openly said that RESEDA as closely monitoring Sebastian's movement. So what do you think will really retire and clearly? The little options on the table would Mercedes Risk Carlton's streak taking on board. Thanks for everything. You're doing and keep up the work while this is all in relation to an F. One. Dot Com article, which was all about the Mercedes? Article, Toto. When you guys read this one. Join Zeca keep going. Go Get your I wasn't sure because we had a news before. Yes this is all from this this article, which was basically her wolf on the future of Mercedes, and we don't know. Rob Reckons. This is him basically just sort of playing nice like everyone's like. Hey, yeah, like we're all. Keep looking at Sebastian but. It's been a couple of weeks now since we since the big news and there's not really been that much movement, and also you know we're. We're getting close to the teams kind of getting locked in. And the two thousand twenty season are probably not going to be thinking about next season. Too much more so. Jack. What do you think of what's going to happen? In relation to battle, because Reynaud are a strange spouse. There's an. Article here. The Bay said they won't choose new driver until the season begins which you have to imagine rainy organization. Of course you're going to do that. Everything is so up in the air at the moment. And also raise funds, saying that Alonzo is still an option for them as well. And, then we have Aston Martin is no planes, no plans to change your drivers according to order sports. So where's he go and? I think this kind of comes down to whether Botas is still a Mercedes and twenty twenty one all right. I mean. Does he get pushed her? Does he leave? Why would you have? We talked about this before I bet vessel of our battle and and Hamilton just I. Mean Hamilton wouldn't want that, but like you got to believe that Mercedes. Why both ties with the cars good enough party toss perfect second driver like. Like like. Souring the relationship that Lewis has with his second driver like we. Didn't really go well with NICO, Rosberg. Yeah I think. It is I just don't know where this guy goes because he like Renault Sherpa is an option I well actually no does have a bit of an issue which is that? I think. Is there's a chance. He is a driver of the future right. There's a chance that like young will distinguish himself and become a rising star like I think I always had the feeling that if he hadn't had such a combative time at force India there was a chance that he would have really like jumped out and like distinguished himself. I like I. Think the problem with that. Though is right now. Renault is kind of a team without a marquee driver. Right like it just doesn't have Like, if you have marquee driver of some sort, you don't really have a team character and. Yeah they need one. They need one because I all. You Got Cyril. Who is I think? Kinda grave sort of shy character in some ways so i. don't think he's GonNa. Be the. He gives you the ability to have him be the face of the team the way like a Christian horner convey. So yeah like I can see them looking for a big name to sort of lead the team and headline at I don't know if that'll that'll get through there. Though because that'll is also. Does. He have a big personality. Does he just have a really evident one? Like. Taking the wrong way, maybe yeah, just like you know his various. Contretemps with you know Louis. Over the over the years. His, quick recourse to completing audibly over the radio I'm not sure I'm not sure. Bring in will be cool. Almost, the exact same problem Alonzo had. You've got a fantastic driver. WHO's one world championships and just nobody wants to go near. The only teams that Wanna go near him or ones. He probably doesn't want to drive for. Yankees. He's kind of like. PUT HIMSELF IN A. Disadvantages position. which is I make sense that renos waiting on this one yeah? Waiting tables good maybe. Should see after Selah ranch else is you know I, was just looking at his teeth a little bit. I guess by virtue of the fact that they're. They're not pulling the trigger immediately that. They think Lonzo would be a better option. I think I think Lonzo has the star power. And there's the be hungrier as well. and bring bream the the favorite son back home finally. Will it work probably not, but it'll be, it'll be. On, the sparks. Beautiful! Scare me as like If you're trying to develop a con I, don't know that. Alonzo's who I want there, but I don't know like. The future of your team in the sport seems dodgy to begin with given. The scale of the job cuts. Pronounce just had I know they've committed to staying, but you know there's commitments to those commitments so I do feel like they gotta do something. I think sort of related to. This is an email from rob. Last time we really saw era where one driver team didn't dominate the F., one grid for an extended period of time was the nineties post sunup Pre Schumacher. Do you think with the new regulations? And the eventual retirement of Hamilton will lead to shake up or do you think drivers like stop in and Leclair dominate? Thanks for her work and keep it up. I think. The problem so you? We may have talked about this a bit with chain bear just remembering chambers for the L. A.. Little clearly like. I think one of the issues with Formula One is that the ability of success to breed success and perpetuate over an era of technical regulations is just too strong, like and I think Lewis. Hamilton's ruined driver I think we have tons of evidence for that across. You know we've seen him drive other cars. We've seen what he can do in bad cars. He is a guy who punches above his weight. He gets more out of cars than other drivers. This is demonstrable. Nevertheless. I do think there is a tendency. In sports to maybe over narrative ice and focus on like her roic figures, right, so you have Schumacher You know the the. Michael Jordan of Ferrari in some ways then the torch has passed. Alonzo looked like he was going to be that guy, but no, it's it's that'll in as the air to Schumacher even has some similar. No, he's he's German has a similar sort of dumb dominant approach, and then it's Hamilton. Just you know these. Generation defining F one titans, but really what you're talking about is a Sierra, a series of really six car programs in some ways and I think. The. Hope is that with the new regulations more important than the budget cap. I think it's going to be things like Distributing, pay a little more distributing monies little more equitably up and down the grid and also. Providing some catch up ability for the. Losing teams like technical programs. I best is going to be the key because one of the things that Oh Gosh Who is sorry the? Racing points drivers this year Peres press. One of the things he said I think. Last year was I thought self-serving at the time, but he said the margins between us in terms of driver skill are actually really thin. Right, but I've heard that echo in some other places and so I do think there's a chance that without necessarily needing to be as drastic as institutionalizing ballast or rivers grids. Maybe just a little bit of help. for teams that are trying to catch up will be enough to allow those drivers to sort of reach those bridge. Those gaps That's that's the hope but the fact that. Incumbent programs have so much. Sway in the sport. It seems tough. Drew I think this one from Eric. Sure Yeah, I have I have nothing to add robin guts totally totally right on reverse the grids. That's all. This dramatic Hey guys love. The show has been a great source of entertainment and knowledge as a relatively new fan of F. One awesome. With, the rules change taking place in the coming seasons with the progressive testing based on performance. Do you see a potential issues? Arising where a team for example Haas last year, who can beat Williams and a few others on a good weekend could potentially start to purposely hinder their performance to have more time for car development between seasons the same way you see NFL teams sometimes start to tank their seasons in an effort to seal a better draft pick for long term gains. I think it's a great question. my personal feeling. Is that while I? Guess that would be possible. I feel like if you're trading. The cash. You would get a higher. SEASON, finish result for testing time. That would enable you to do better. The following season finished and get. More cash, so it's like either cash our cash later, yeah! I it doesn't I'm not a business strategist, but it doesn't seem like a slam dunk like that to me. Yeah, feeding off a Roberson, the last time around as well with the whole like positive and negative feedback loops like I don't I don't think. NFL has like they've done a pretty good job at least for me as a European. Who watches soccer? They've done a pretty good job of at least trying to make. It's at a lower level. Teams can bounce back using the drafts like they can trampoline. They're they're they're. They're negative. Loop into a positive one, but I don't take. Is there I? Think the damage of having that. That type of season. You can't just all or nothing on the next one so much of it as a -CREMENTO into so much work to be done on the car. It's nights. I think it just doesn't work that way so much, and also I feel like there's way more of Gulf like you know. I feel like on any given day the Patriots could lose to. The worst NFL tea. Where's the in no day? Do I ever see Williams beating Mercedes on track? And it's not the same you know, and those sorts of like. It feels like. The would be incremental versus like the gain. That star player could get you on a football team. Yeah, exactly yeah yeah. They're also not proven yet like we don't really know what the aerodynamic stuff is going to do At this stage, when will we know? Yes Oh. have to see. I'll take the last one here from randolf because its message directly to me. Dear Donnie given high pronunciation of various names is a frequent motif. If the show is it really I have who knew. Please consider the unavailable correct pronunciation of these two geographical locations Barcelona and As Your San why what today at what we usually say do I see buffalo owners doesn't like I say. Like. PSYCHOTIC cut the low near Barcelona and Azerbaijani says is on, would is Z. said? is as as early as early laser. Okay, so this is as Aaser, but is are is. Are we sure this. Isn't someone taking the PISS. I don't know I don't think so I. Think he is point. Is that say? Like I say Azure by Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan, which is fair, because it is in fact as E., or is it Azerbaijan. How do you? How do you say I WANNA I? WanNa I? WanNa sort out for twenty twenty the rest of the season. How I say these two places, even though we won't race it I well race him one. How go ahead. You guys say Barcelona I. Say Barcelona. Okay so yeah I know I know that? In Spain. In Spanish it's pronounced. Barth alone depends on parts from. Is it okay, Gotcha? Yeah the th sound Barcelona. I think that is like Castilian. Spanish morning because one of my Spanish teachers was actually Catalonian Ryan and I. Don't think did that so I, yeah, it's. I do not think that like even there. That is a universal thing. Yeah and for. Context growing up in California in in America learning Spanish in school. We learn Latin American Spanish, which does not do the t H. thing rice yeah. And, then yeah, I guess I always say like I wouldn't. I'd say Paris unless I. was you know? If in French I think one of the other awkward things is again like sometimes as an English speaker. You sound a bit like. I. Don't know US say it rob I. Know You sound a bit? Say to my face a bit of a douchebag. Like you sound like that kid comes back from the UK and. Check my schedule. Sorry. Can keep me that aluminum cam just got used to saying aluminium. Yeah. I'd have I had a boss. I won't say where. Who? Who tried to? Get sort of like a appeal to European sensibilities in some way by only ever pronouncing. France the country of France as France, because he thought that starts how Europeans pronounced. which literally I fucking I've learned French for years and speak of it. A fringe and I've been Francis Bunched. I've never heard anyone say France in my life. So. Yeah, I I'll say I'll say. I'll say bath alone. One hundred podcast with my friends, but if I speak Spanish I wouldn't say so. Maybe I'll stop saying the podcast and then say Azerbaijan you guys say that? John say. Maybe not the same time. I'll go first. As John Okay as erosion. Yeah, okay I've been saying like. I've been agean that one so Dago Randolph does have a good point to provide alone to use Freddie Mercury refrain from his song, of course for the famous one thousand, nine hundred ninety two Olympics was it was I in the mix? Actually I'm sure if it wasn't Olympic, Song? Entitled Barcelona Apparently. He can't pronounce the name at striking the DOUBLE FIST POSE BURKE UTAH? So we've all got our crosses the Barry Randolph. Respectfully emails. Thank you so much. Thank you very Miller's. If you'd like to send you emails shift have one apply gas that GMO dot. com ephron Dasche cool slash emails. That is free. DNA wouldn't take it too hard I. When I went to South Hallo for cloth map. No one even when Brazilians were speaking to me in English, they would not say sal Palo of course they would say. And I'm going to butcher here again, but it's more like southbound sallow. Or like almost sounded on San Paolo like really close to that and so. As an and this is. I think something that probably a lot of Americans are maybe English speakers in general run into is like well I want to be respectful. What do I do? Do y ignore the fact that I know how to pronounce this and just say it the way. My American accent wants me to say it or do I try to like. Again be. Is it respectful to try to pronounce the right way that the people living there would say it, or is that disrespectful and so I never really landed on something. Close Map stuff I think I say Sao Paulo differently every single time I mentioned, and it's so it's it's different based on the. Situation based on who you're talking to like culturally is there. Is there some that you need to process between the two people as well? Yeah, talking with someone in the like a Dresden is another one. I think in German they say Dresden and so I'm talking to someone and they're. They're talking about the city. Of Dresden I'm not GONNA say well. Yeah I've been to Dresden like I'm not gonna I'm probably going to echo what they're saying. Not Sound like I'm if you. Strong. Yes. I think it's a respect thing, but you kind of have to like. We did ED CD project documentary, and of course they said their product. It's not that they're. CD project the phrase. You say CD project. I said that probably tennis I think yeah, I think I actually. Look in. Your lucky try hard. Looking at me. What am I, yeah? I think. I'm going to acknowledge that I. That that is the way I am saying it because I'm. I feel like it's a microcosm of just sympathetic accents. Where like my oxen change? When I went to England because I wanted to be understood more on my accent when I came here because I wanted to be able to understood more, and it's just the same reflex where people. You want to be respectful of people's language and culture, but also you know. You're sort of beyond your standard in some way like if you keep if you keep saying Sao Paulo to them after a while. Is that disrespectful? Because you're basically correct? Yeah, now learning. Yeah, you're not exactly yeah. Is there like a time associated with this thing it's. Sending cousy say so I'll just say Baku Taco Baiqiu. All right that's Reno's. You can also hit us up at shift, F one. podcast on twitter. At drew scanlon. That's at Danny O'Dwyer and Zach Ni. That's US around the Internet. Should we take around the world is? Round the. got a little bit higher because I missed the racing year. Yeah as a matter of fact, we do have some racing around the world to talk about. Starting with. The erasing there is A. A race not this weekend. Yes, this weekend June fed is this week on June? Thirteenth finish. What do I have to smoke to race? Unless like most of the motor sport. Community does smoke then maybe because this is a murderer's row. Of Professional drivers here. Doing a virtual twenty four hours of Lima. Here's another one by the way. Do you say the mall or Lemoyne's or Le Mans or lemons? Differently every time it's. Were there. Fifty cars will be racing. Are Factor to four drivers per car. into different classes, the P two cars of our factor. And the GTE classes which encompasses four cars. There they got a full day night cycle going an unknown whether may crop up. damage on and custom setups. So this is not. It's not your run in the MIL SPEC series. And a lot of names that Formula One people will recognize people like Maxwell staff and Linda Norris on the same team. Along with Leclair Antonio Juvenile. On, the same team got peer ghastly and teammate. John Eric Vern. Fernando Alonzo and Rubens Barrichello Wow Felipe Massa and Giancarlo. Fisichella oh cool other F. One except one names. We got Steph van Doren Jenson Button Brennan Hartley one Pablo Montoya Gita Gita Vanguard Community, couple of yeah, she Nelson Peak Junior Bruno San Lucas Degrassi. Will Stevens and Yen Magnusson? Awesome a lot of. Any Jenson Button Sim Racer. Has He been doing this? He's been doing. The legacy raises like the old old stuff. Yeah, some indycar drivers formula two drivers, an all female team of Katherine Legge Tatyana Calderon. So feel flourish and emily. Jones who is a non pro driver awesome. And perhaps the best, team. Robert Wickens Jimmy Broadbent. and. Austria's Ferdinand Habsburg louds on tour. Love it. That's right. So that'll be on motorsport DOT, TV, but probably streaming on some youtube channel twenty four hour virtual dos Lamont. Sports Dot Com yes move. In the show notes as well. That'll be fun. I should also point out that the shift. F One. Patriot community is also planning their own. Twenty four hour race, the following weekend tastic so I'll maybe I'll try to. tweet about that if you WANNA get. Yeah. Although they may have. They may have already locked everybody I actually don't know, so. Try and jump on and shot at him a little bit while streaming. Yeah, Fun I, think a number of people will be streaming and we won't. Officially streaming it, but I think a number of the community A. we'll be doing so. Keep Your eyes on our at shift podcast twitter can. Yes indeed. Let's see also coming up. As mentioned. The NASCAR series. Started he's back, yeah. We got Wednesday. The date of this podcast goes up. June tenth. In Martinsville Virginia will be racing the blue EMU maximum pain. Really your five hundred. What's blue? Mo Pain Relief. Like. It contains EMU oil. It is a soothing deep penetrating formula. I. Think doesn't really contain EMU loyal. It says make that up. CONTAIN EMU. Oil is written on us. It's a pain relief cream which contains parts of EMU. 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At Homestead Miami speedway in Florida. They go. Yeah a any more info. On the situation now, Yeah I. Know I, don't understand like. Why is it important to be able? Because, it's got that pain relief email while. It's from the AD adipose tissue harvested from certain subspecies of the EMU A flight. This is a genus Australia. Like, oh my. God. This would work if. G quest like like the the village like doctor needs this one I understand that like. Yes, at like RPG logic. No need the oil of the blue, okay fine. Why do we need that exact oil though like? Modern Chemistry why do we that? I'm to answer this question with two data points from the wikipedia article on EMU oil. I is a research section, which basically says like a lot of studies have failed to show greater efficiency effort EMU oil over placebo, and the other one is if you go to the see also section of EMU oil, the first one is another oil. Can you guess. Oil. So is blue. I'm sorry. This is a podcast and will therefore be public statement of some of some sort. But I am curious if blue EMU EMU. Pain relief is in the same like Da Category, as say like advil or Aleve, medicines that. Are Real. Guard Israel. flew equal oil. Whereas where does blue EMU FIT on that spectrum? To. Maybe I can answer with a statement so I. Don't get my own self in trouble at the see also section of EMU oil Mickey Pedia. To see also 's the first the snake oil. The second one is list of ineffective cancer treatments. So, I think that might answer, but hey if you WANNA. Grow Up Some flightless birds in Rhode them on yourselves, run car race where you can probably get free samples or don't don't actually. No, you can't. Can you go to NASCAR races yet? You can't so. Not yet although they will be opening them up to guests. which I believe will be one thousand servicemembers. Okay, we'll be testing before they let in right, you say service members in military military. Okay, and they'll all be standing. That have like so much legroom. It'll be ridiculous. Right dollar. Fifty empty seats are in. Every three hundred seats there will be one fan. The popcorn guys are going to have to have amazing arms for this one. Right. Okay well. That's podcast everyone. If you'd like to support the show, you can do so a patriot. Dot Com slash shift f one anything else, fellas. Now, look forward to chatting a couple of weeks. That's hope the races are still on soap. Everyone safe. Top. We haven't got the second wave coming and. Yeah looking for the CHANCE YOUTUBE AGAIN! I need your help getting to the bottom of this oil situation. I gotTA. Know now I'd like to solve to be thinking about vice case folks. Okay this is a private investigation. This is I've gone road care I need I need to get to the bottom of the blue-emu oil or the blue EMU. Issue Well what what else is our podcast for? Exporting these. Topics. That's it for us having to waste Wigan everyone. 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What Happened Behind The Scenes In Melbourne?

The Autosport Podcast

34:24 min | 9 months ago

What Happened Behind The Scenes In Melbourne?

"Hello Malkin's book costs on your heist. And that's according specialization of the cost to discuss the very serious situation in Melbourne regarding the cancellation that's one hundred. Twenty Australian Grand Prix. Earlier on Friday where recording twenty-eighth Rosebud Collins straight join in the flat but wildest colleague lead sniff annoying sharing for the for the for the week here in Melbourne. I mean she's like guest's website. Jonathan neighbor Japan Expo Dot Com and leaks as I mentioned earlier. Well it's been. It's been quite a quite a week oversee and quite a in Melbourne if want to travel to Australia under a massive cloud of uncertainty. Let's face it each of the corona virus outbreak already. Even this time last week even Sunday when when the last of the team personnel and and the media and the whole circus was travelling to Australia. There was already big questions about where they should be doing. Now as the week developed there were. There were a lot of the traditional preseason activities. Taking place there was already signs early on John and Andrew and I were rebel event where there was a two meter exclusions lying around drivers basically at all times it was just. Don't don't get close to them. And and certainly in the press the press conference that they held at the event when when we arrived at the track on Wednesday in the build-up started we can actually our our policies in early and nothing would normally would day out. This is my first F. One weekend sports grumpy it went swimmingly and it was on Wednesday when it was revealed by John in a story photos dot com that three f one person they were being tested already potentially having that Corona Virus Covet nineteen into Thursday. More people were being tested including actually a photographer. We think Coleco photographer and then on Wednesday night as I'm sure you ought aware McLaren team member was revealed to have tested positive for the team withdrew from the event and discussions continued through the night. As to what was going to happen was the race go ahead without McLaren would it be behind closed doors? There was nothing. There was Nice statement from Formula One or the FAA quite a deafening silence. Really stand the F. Chase Carey was flying from Vietnam where we'd been talking to the promoter in Hanoi about what was going to happen to that race next month. The F one team principals were talking. We're in discussions with Ross brawn with the other stakeholders and Eventually reconvened in the morning after another statement that come out from their strategy in Guam pre cooperation saying that things would be pushing a heads and then about just after ten. Am Actually Luke informed me very precisely and it was ten eight am. You're welcome. A statement came out. You ask for a rough estimate. And he gave me ten eight. That was that was that was very very grateful for that league that the race was off just to go back a little bit the Australian authorities that said it would be going if it was to go ahead. It would be behind closed. Doors things would not precipitation has not be allowed in those press conference Chase Carey and the senior managers addressed the media. There was There's a lot of talking not there. Were a lot of answers. I will get into that perhaps a bit later on but yes a very serious situation there. That's my that was what was supposed to be a brief summary. I've gone on for quite a while and as an email drops into our in box office DOT COM will meet my laptop easing record. John what you thinking? He sat here on Friday evening in Melbourne. It's it's been quite a weakness for that way Kevin Magnusson Thursday you drive sessions up or down. The public. Most of them are still table around the drive to Chatanooga. All the teams was so strict about so they had a table and these big barriers. What DOES BARRACUDA AIRPORT? They've you pull across queuing up. Kevin just came across last and says it's a bit eft up isn't it said he felt like a bit of movie set retractable tight barrier. Our guest. He's the phrase you're looking for and as the press conference was going on Kevin's constantly grinning and stuff journalist never session sending flicked the end of the retractable tape barrier so the barrier kind of moved across an wasn't there and suddenly of joking and the moved away and all this sort of stuff. So that's just one example in the two meter exclusion zone the red bull thing. I took a photo of the event with a two drivers this big exclusion zone which glows traction social media. So it from the start. It wasn't a normal weekend. Things changed when the seriousness of the situation as great. He's one of the thing having a bit of a laugh about you. Know these two meter exclusion zones and stuff. Which aren't normal. But I think equally when there's an escalating situation with more people being tested and then that posted dogmas last night it was fun night to be a journalist when big breaking news is happening. And you bang in the center of it. Be Controversies always a great thing to be poverty. Really big developing new story but he clears very serious situation fourteen McLaren Stephan Currency Areola Hotel. One of them's got the corona virus so it's not as sat time for the one that's someone's has suffered this but I think we'll look back in ten years time and we'll be recounting stories of the Grand Prix. That never happened or I certainly hope to have perhaps seen one whiny roll the adult. It's obviously that is by. Father is the important thing is our resident of Melbourne How about things? And how do you think the city is failing? Yeah it's a weird of a lot. We've sort of reached a critical juncture now in terms of the the Grand Prix wise content the acid test. That was sort of this feeling if you guys. Hey things must things must be okay so the fact that hasn't it feels like the whole thing's kind of shifted gears here a little bit side Apparently there were Look Costco there. Were people killing of kilometers just drawn a boss applause all that sort of venom toward toilet roll mainly yeah taller. Oh yeah enhance sanitizer. So it really feels like things have changed a little bit. Just BOTHER GROWN PREY. Not Not happening. It's amazing there were still people. Queued up the guy at the guys this morning. Johnny get inside I. It's interesting interesting so the point is how much the whole thing would have affected the crat. Maybe they would have been an absolute bumper crowd. Anyone but it could be bit on that thing where they say. They've a theme park has that. He's being very flippant about your situation but if a theme park has a death the attendance figures. That should go up. Apparently that would love to the head. You stumble across that little thing but it. Yeah so it's sort of the. It's been announced it's been announced this evening. Seems THE GROWING PREGO CANCELLED? That gatherings over five hundred people. Why be allowed for Monday? All Mood Siping sort of this a new level of seriousness bank taken around this issue now which is which is good which is good. These measures might really help. Contain what's going on. We might look back at it in a few months and all. That was an overreaction but not not being overreaction literally be the thing that stopped stopped this whole corona virus taking out here. You know Site Yeah it's Johnson. It's just been an odd wakened. It felt off in in the F one paddock. It felt remarkably different. When you're in the suit because They run was a lot more relaxed because they hadn't just sat on twenty hours worth of flights and come through. Airports spread all over the middle of the world Si- everyone was gonna like that things have gone and then on the F one paddock ended up. Are you guys but it felt it felt tense? Yeah that was an advantage. All it didn't feel lock. People really wanted obey the leak. You've been working uniform for several years. Now how did you find it competing by the pack in the feeling in Melbourne? This weekend. What you've experienced before very strange very very area and just I mean. We were all exceptionally fortunate. The job that we do work in the sport that we love and and travel the world covering this amazing amazing sport by one of those weekends where you don't really want to be there. I mean I think back last year for example in that Sass de place in the world that we will wants to be was in that product and I think it was a similar feeling throughout the weekend. Talking to friendly works for Alpha Alpha Tori and. He said he didn't know what to do because if he goes back to Italy. Can you get back into into Italy will be able to get out of the country again? What's going on there and that? That's that's the really concerning. I think that ultimately sport is so often an escape from daily life. And you sort of you watch you watch football or whatever to escape from work dramas or whatever and this is now a situation where it comes completely into into our world is a very serious serious. Human thing I've been in races in the party that you remember those events outside the track that take kind of overtake what's going on the Occasionally happens of the Paris terrorist attacks in Brazil. We were there was remember the Icelandic adage cloud you China's going pre every conversation. The product conversation wasn't about Q. One Times or tie degradation. It was all about what you doing. How are you getting back? And people plotting their paws to return but this was a bit of both because he had a bit of this domination of going on in Europe and trump shutting down the flights to America and lockdowns ever and schools being busy quite close to home. The typhoon in Japan last year was a thing that's happening in the paddock. He's got this combination of huge events outside happening. This massive situation happening inside the Paddock. And it just overtook everything. Ready Yeah and all the drive is very mindful of that. We have these processions where they would be asked all the current. Ivars questions and I think in a couple of the sessions moment. Someone said Oh sporting question views like oh great and it is I think particularly following the FIFA settlements statement with Ferrari as well on any other weekend that would be an enormous story. One of the most dominant stories probably the season but it was just put to the wayside complete. I think in the pro with shallow clerked. For example it was the fifth is question just because everyone was focused on something that is is so much bigger than Ospel ultimately the mood of the gates this morning live in and killed and how many how. How many minutes is walk from your ten minutes? Tim Walk Yeah. They're very nearby. I mean we were joking a little bit later. We'll you posting story. Might sports common with debating what it means to us and there was some some fans that clearly not happy apparently nor the FAA puddings not image by pass their obviously their part. That's the ultimate target. What was the mood that you encountered? When he got those days it was just confusion. Nobody really knew what was going on. Because the initial messaging this morning was that this events going to go on blocked. Worry about the fact that someone's tested positive events going to go on which is very in keeping with the sort of message that's been going on spoken about this a couple of times in various stuff we've done under the waken. But this being this crazy clash of panic Boeing toilet piper slash nappy slash five kilo bags of Ross mixed with the classic Aussie shooot on. I gotTa Cricket Ninety Days Cricket. It's not a drama and this is being pushed businesses usual it was. What was the one that the event was pushing along that everyone's been pushing business as usual so people still seem to think this is gonna go ahead. When when the event puts out a statement at seven o'clock in the morning saying this is going ahead. Paper went co scouting ahead. They went to the guide so when they couldn't get in. That was quite confusing and it seems that took a long time for people to actually do the message through the. You're not going. Then these events going ahead. I do wonder whether there's some serious questions about why that statement was put out because he just encourage people it seems to go to the track yet it feels like they must have been a reason for it because even Lyda Andrew West Cote the CEO of the Australian grown pre corporation spiky about the fact that they use the word canceled not postponed when they did finally confirmed that the event wasn't going to go ahead to discourage people from coming to the track to Michael didn't always been buying. It must be put back now out his head on into bit lighter so things didn't seem to happen by accident just thinking about wh- we've gleaned from from from team principles and people talking in the paddock and various sources like apparently smashing vital and communality left. Well that's as they're already gone so it's just. It's just bizarre to think that that you know certain people would like to see that. This is not going to go ahead of me. John What did you? What did you pick up one of the issues here and this this issue of how he ended up in straight in the first place is Protocols go through procedures in counseling a race with China became obvious that the F. icon consulate because there. There's no health grants or safety grants counselor. Don't want to cancel it. Because they lose the race hosting fee. We're talking forty fifty million dollars for the big races. Search is always up to the promoter. to counselor and then they rely on the government to say that it can't go ahead and then it's force measure and then they don't lose the fee so you're in situations where you won't the F. I. E. N. F. One and promoters people to make decisions so this is how we ended up in Australia. That there was no one got to the point and put the hand up and said actually we now taking a risk going there as as situations change in especially Italy. There's probably the same as we arrived the this morning. The teams didn't WanNa race or the the majority of teams didn't WanNa race which triggered the the FAA movement but for promoters needed to show that. This wasn't their personal choice to cancel the race. The everything's going ahead. We are pushing on with it and this is a decision of our hands which I think that announcement by the healthy forests spectators aren't coming in was the changer custodian that shifts responsibility onto something else. And I'm sure it's a big discussion out to be done about who pays and who's going to stump up the willoughby field stuff but I think it's all about who. Where does the buck stop in this situation? That's one of the key big lessons outfits became the main. Everyone knew coming here. You we'll roll the dice on whether or not a paddock member would You know get confirmed to get infected here. It was. It was a gamble And you have to question. You know should have been a gamble. It should have come. If we couldn't one hundred percent guarantee that wouldn't be appropriate in the paddock. It goes beyond just the bay whiting. The guy that was warmed up withdraw sitting in rated Rowlatt for practice session was scheduled at twenty two ten this morning and they did not. They're sitting there. Why didn't you know there were marshalls at posts? Coz Cozzi Dunlap's everything clock. This was GONNA be law racetrack and I think the to see two F. One call was really early in the morning. Dip Track activity happening Gaza in rice. Cows literally sitting in rising to go at having no idea that the whole event was being shut down. There is definitely been some sort of missteps communication. If you're reaching that point and I think that's a pretty staggering Anna. Let's let's move onto to some some some similar feeling in terms of how how the situation on and own and talk about the words of of Louis witching who is it was probably the most outspoken of all of the drivers that address the media. I think just copy good question to be honest. Well like he was he was. My question was a as a first question. In a F- I press conference. You've done quite well. I must say thank you very much. It wasn't it wasn't a question that no one else was going to ask so. I just happened to happen because he told me to go in to challenge. That sounds like somebody got mike arrival. But every guy that guy he was he was he was very outspoken. It was up. I I find the question. Is You know where you're comfortable traveling. And what did you think of the F. One? Nfl respond so far before they get cancer off the race and an energy he talks about the flight and touching things and and had a hand. Sanitizer things that manning so paused and went. It's really surprising that we're here. That were in the conversation and he said he was shocked. And that's that's that's about as as far as I think he could. Guy Kimmy working on also expressed expresses some vs on this Spitzer. How it's in. I've written this before and I think a lot. He's the face of Formula One. Get on him for for for doing that and speaking up I mean you know what did you guys think. Yeah it was. He was the only driver who came out strongly in southern so many of them said all we follow the F. is advice and we're just going to hit the race and that line. That was so many times and you can understand that to a point because ultimately yet they do have to while the governing body will say in what their medical off will suggest with their crisis cell. That was up to follow the situation. And but also Louis someone hey he wears his heart and enslave and at one is so much richer for that and I think the moment that we don't have Lois Samson in-form lawn anymore. It's very hard. See who will be replacing him to be that figure who will say this is. This is how I'm feeling right now. The fast he's also F. One small successful star and one of the greatest drives the sport has ever seen. I think that's that's that just adds to basically these so visible and I think that would also pressure on Formula One as well the fact that on on Thursday the Lewis of all people was the person. Speak say this shocking surprising. We shouldn't shouldn't be basically. He posted up INSTAGRAM STORY FROM HIS BEDROOM. As well saying really. Don't WanNa leave my room with the Emoji of Moscow is face for example. And it's it's. It's that kind of honesty that I think we need from our drivers because ultimately they do get too much into this sort of P R and they've got about this message of his race. I just WANNA raise it. I'm more worried about the politics. I think we saw that. With the Lewis's comments about environmentalism was last season that he's very aware of the world outside of Formula One. He's made clear that once career over he doesn't want to be hanging around spoil Moscow and do all these other ventures. I think it's just really really good that we have someone like him to look at the bigger picture and actually this is. This is way bigger than than the sport what happens when Lewis. Hamilton walks away. The Fleet Street guys be panthers races and things that needs any pre is a pretty big thing as we are getting slightly off off topic here but yes I said I think I think later today said Janis wanted. Do think we're GONNA see. That's just the the star of no war of words but comments being made team principals manufacturers people we've stakes at risk potentially coming out and making statements in the next few days and weeks. I'm not I'm not. I'm not sure actually because that's white space with team boss today about whether they felt the weekend been damaging for Formula One and everything but I think when such a unique unprecedented situation the world. Now this is this is something that no one alive on this earth as experienced before What is happening now in is going to happen over the next two. Three four weeks I think formulas just a tiny tiny Blob on the corner of a much bigger picture so I think if what happened this weekend it happen in a situation where the world was normal I think it would be a massive England India. Five when circumstances happened in a normal bizarre circumstances happen to normal world but we're in total unprecedented territory. Here I think in the especially the season unlikely announcer started back to The thing the issue of what happened. Is We candle will melt into the background because as much bigger issues at stake here. I think what this wakes up us up to is the fact that someone is in the bill and end all of everybody's lives it said small parts of a big thing. You know of a sports of stopped serving in the ends. You won't be the big drama that may be. India foibles for example Indian. I think is I've certainly find it frustrating. When you see in social media about how things are going to hit his reaction Vera. Absolutely not not when not win the world health authorities declared a pandemic this now? This is something that should be taken utterly seriously and John. I'M GONNA throw back to you now. You mentioned the fact. That Elliott Fonzie could start in Baku in June. You know what he's going to happen next. We think. Cameras we're recording Bahrain and Vietnam again be caught off. Thanks what a three month. Wait for the first is is pretty unprecedented but what you learned from your discussions in the paddock. The one that's going to happen often. There's a growing reality that The situation is not normal. I think It's amazing to think back in testing time Talking Middle Reparations. Was that three weeks ago. I think we all believe that this is a problem that was solely going to happen in China that the Chinese would go and it would flare up in Asia a little bit and then disappear and that would be but I think testing is solely first cases in different countries. And since he's exploded in lockdown offering the realities bitten the over the next two weeks things quite bad and they can't push on now with the season teams of told on Sunday on the not racing in Bahrain. everyone's going home. Vietnam them Same scenario I mean they can carry on now serving. They will now be a during the foundation being taken but from understand teams have now set on Those racist weren't happen. Say Bahrain's off Vietnam's off some vote will have to be called off spin off Monaco. Be Off and we're now looking at back and they will try then to shuffle in a calendar that moves on from there. I don't from what I understand. Monaco won't be put back in the race. Organizer don't pay race hosting FEE TO F. One says bake medication to get it back in to boost the bottom. Line and Spanish company organizers are facing financial conditions in the country's in quite badly hit by colonel virus so that will be put back in they will end up with eighteen nineteen race calendar may push on into December. I mean how close to Christmas. We don't know there will be an attempt but it's moving situation Friday last week you could fly from Germany to America and you never think live. Those routes will be shut off when they were shut down. So you know we can't guarantee where things will be tomorrow let alone what's GonNa Happen to try and slaughter race in on the seventh of June or the fifteenth of July. How does look for F one that this happened? That people came out to your city from Europe. From from some really Donna situations in Italy is probably potentially is going to get worse in the UK in other countries looking at trajectories on certain things that have been posing reports coming out those countries the few weeks behind Italy in terms of cases. Now things developing what? What do you think on on on life? It doesn't it doesn't look good. And they seems to be some fairly strong indications that with any of these sorts of things as Johnson. We haven't seen one lock this as such but having large gatherings of people is just a bad idea. That's the first thing that's going in the window for Detroit The people involved in this event. Detroit and push it on through it just doesn't it just never looked good. They really wasn't look if you. I think that the the damage from a public relations standpoint is significantly less if you do it before the event starts nobody's sitting around and sign the NBA terrible because they've stopped doing what they're doing. It's not Oh certainly not unless you might be if you deeply involved. They won't be groups of fans. Who had that opinion? But you don't get that sense when you're just a casual observer of that situation is the same with the major football leagues in Europe. Playing behind closed doors. It just seems a sensible thing to do and this never looked sensible thing to do and that's really what it comes down to and the fact that it blew up once the event had actually started. Because it's fun to say the form of the cows will attract but there was a whole di- of track activity. There was five seek support categories rice in Iran will die. Paper were already investing visiting time and money into competing in this event if nothing else It's it's not good optics is it. Is it really doesn't good. Indeed League Cam reasonably outspoken on social media last night I know that Austrailia picks you up on that. Just just quite what you said. Don't particularly outrageous or anything like that but this is some pretty strong feelings up for for many people. Yeah I just wanted to half day later. Moist talk honestly. I forget what time it is the concert now. How how you feeling today we have. I think for for context. Yeah last night it was sorry. It's fine it's fine. It's fine. It was it was. It was very very late and yet I think everyone was very very tired. Very emotional about it. I mean I pass Viruses the PUTT. You're young you're it's okay if you get it but then you think about what if family members gathered or something like that and people say well by the end that that has been my big concern through all of this and Yes when last night was that there is a confirmed case in part III of really went into four panic mode and as such my friend's golden gods and then it's going to be okay yet but I think on the concert me last night. Was that been no guidance. No information from the F. One the governing body anything like that About what would happen if someone in the product was tested positive for this we had no idea and it was a case that go back to the apartment and I always think wh what does this mean for us. Now and you had just begins to rush. It's like do we have to isolate. We have to quarantine. What are we GONNA do? Can I get home? And it's it's things like that and then you talk to people and for example like you find of ice from a team doctor or something like that reassures your little bit. But it still didn't. It didn't change the father really. We should have come to this weekend. Knowing knowing what was happening rate we should've known from the governing body from the officials running this event. What would happen from a company perspective? I it's been. We've had the support that we needed. Which is which is really really good of that. That's so so important but I didn't feel actually gave us what what we needed the reassurance the understanding last night. Yeah we got in sort of. I think I think about four o'clock in the morning God's bad on a couple of journalists powder all the way through and they've been up about thirty four hours by now it's just crazy but I went to bed at four and I thought okay. We'll wake up seventy seven and by them. We'll have more information and there was nothing. There was absolutely nothing coming out with the public channels and I do appreciate that. It is a very fluid situation. Get things changing minute by minute. Hour by hour again. We traveled with No. Us Travel Bam with most of the major sports leagues still running but now yet the NBA suspended. We've got cases confirm for primarily football. Earn a permanent manager. It is changing so rapidly. Bought A F. One is unique in so many ways. And it's the international element of it is about the. We aren't just going down the road to London report to do our job. We are actually little temper walk. You'll find perfect perfect for the rest of us. Traveling eleven thousand miles and I have taken that decision that we were going to go ahead. There was no there was no turning back from that and this this situation of the key thing was that everyone kind of knew the build up to this. The event was kind of you saw the situation getting worse and people are questioning. The risk is the risk factor. Too Much it should be zero risk whereas in the past you've gone to events like the typhon in Japan or borrowing near after it was canceled or And these events where there are difficulties. An F. on huddles together. Parisan is really determined to push on through Mike a massive successive times of the pattern. There really community spirit. Everyone's wouldn't be there we push on. We put this race on. It's fantastic be arrived here. I didn't speak to a single person in the paddock. Wanted this event to go on. They're already concerned. They felt it would have been better to be safe. Having can raced than sorry as ultimately we are now So that was. That was the frustration. The lack of communication Aussie thank you got fifteen hundred people in the products as fifteen hundred families. All around the world he could potentially be impacted by these decisions And I think Lewis in that same press conference. Yesterday he was asked. Why did this race go ahead? No no he said this semi ironically but said cash is King Can alternate is that this is about money this who would pay if the price didn't go ahead? Ron For that. What's the best for their phone communities? And that's why the frustration was there and I was lost Even I was tweeting are angry disappointed with Formula One because this is a totally avoidable situation. No one would have said anything BAD ABOUT FORMULA. One if it even as late as Sunday. It's in last week as people flying out when the first Italian lockdown happened First Question's game if WANNA said right that's it. It's too much of a risk now We don't believe the situation will get any better if anything's only GONNA get worse naive to having a bit naive to believe that things would be stable. Let alone better So effectively everyone saw it coming just made everyone angry. Yep and I mentioned before that could feel the difference between the two paddocks at all being rhyming. Betweens into the Subic is goes in the form of the one God but at the end of the day I think the reaction from Utah's comes down to the fact that you risk as well and so that's the reality of the situation. We bathe in that paddock. There was people potentially in the media center. This is an incubation period. Things could change rapidly the next few days. That's the harsh reality of the situation. So I think we've all we deserve the to feel a little bit on age at the moment because way would put at risk yours more than makers. I didn't have to airport not enough to sit in applying and do any of that sort of stuff but still was they. And someone has contracted this things. I that is probably going to explain some of the roar emotion. We've saying it's taints. We'd unprecedented. Tom. Has Test On? That's how discussion of what's happened in Melbourne this week. Thanks very much for listening. As far as we know as we're recording this week we can have for speak three months of content to do he come over here in Melbourne for three months of recording with you guys I mean. It's it's raining right now. Robert pointedly could be much worse. Pacers gets back to get stuck. That's face it but so yeah we I think we're probably going to be bringing you some Some interesting different and varied pocus. Who knows you know? There's been approved prominence thinking we've got websites affair we've got magazines make. I don't know what we know. We can make it from home. Kevin Turner and his team last week. Charter systems some also intrigued. You Grand Prix edits voters boys co prestigious job. The half and you'll the first two chrome pre Edison history to go to a Grand Prix and not actually have Grand Prix. Yeah I have a car at one caught a wheel. So far yeah selfishly. I wanted it to go ahead partic- to see what would happen. But we'll be a little bit pedantic now wasn't phone call that's underway. Oh the Tusa but apparently crashed crashed yellows escape driving. It was rude Iverson. And he's been a very bad about how he should be the twenty twenties trying Grand Prix win it because he turned more lapse into formula. One cow than anyone else. I think Fahrenheit mentioned the crash. So that's out. Woo Excellent. Well yeah like I said Thank you very much for joining us on this episode. Anyway I won't do the Usual Spiel game tells me just various channels. I encourage you to read on these stories announcing some course but but anyway thank you very much for listening thinking to John. Abo to leak joining us and stay safe everyone. I'm CICI music is six. Am treeline written by. Marcus Simmons See soundcloud dot com slash music.

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76 - German GP Prerace 2019

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76 - German GP Prerace 2019

"Donna and blitzen and welcome to shift F. One podcast speedy race cars that is German for thunder and lightning yeah of why is that why the blitzen met cool wow took me from Germany to finally put together but that is an honor of Haass's new sponsor lightning Bolt Gotcha Jesus. I'm sorry Danny the I thought we lived in the rear view mirror. They're not really small rear view mirror but now there's a new story on this Google Doc. They're coming back going back. Standing Dwyer drew scanlon also joining us rob's acting. How are you rob not too bad? If if you are new to this podcast welcome Coleman feel welcoming yeah if you're new to Formula One itself <hes> we do recommend listening to our preseason primer episode which wherein we assume no prior knowledge and it <hes> it gives the lowdown on how the sport works and who everybody is this year's primer episode is episode fifty nine so if you want to go back and listen to that give it a shot also the show is supported entirely by our audience at Patriots Dot com slash shift F. One every month we released at least one bonus podcast in video exclusively for our patrons covering racing documentaries <hes> F- when video games primers for other racing series on weird stuff so if you want to support the show and get access to all that a head over to Patriot dot com slash shift F. One click the link in the show notes. What's what was on this late this month Danny we have the voice for F one game history number five wherein I play an old formative one video game went live just this morning? Do you want to hear what the votes are. So far for the three sure yeah three good. These are like three good games. I feel like this time. You didn't put a bad one in I couldn't I ran out of by Games drew. That's the honesty I yes. I went back through my catalog of of <hes> Bad F. One games and because everyone had voted for them all already because they like to see me suffer I've known left so I have a bunch of goodies Super Monaco Grand Prix to and that's Ayrton Senna's One f one twenty seven because I thought it'd be fun to go back and play one of the classic ones the I think that's actually the Second Masters One I think twenty ten was the first one they did and also Mario Andretti racing which is more of an indy indy delicious. <hes> also on the genesis currently currently in third place is Mr on jetty with twenty nine f one twentieth happens got forty and of course leading the pack Mr Iron Center seventy three votes. It looks like I am going to be each each time. We go around Monaco. It's kind of our benchmark mark. We always do Monaco. At least there's no way I'm escaping it now. Super Monaco Grand Prix to and of course we had our podcast our second episode of our drive to survive series <hes> Wentz up better week or two ago now. I feel like that was is a fun one yeah so yeah get on their loads of stuff. Also you can watch US review. Both rich energy drinks and Dinero Card is blue coast brewery beer as well all. If you become a patriots day you've got access to all of the old stuff too so it's not like you have to you know pick your time so there's never been a better time to be a Patriot shift that one. Let's just before we jump into or get to Germany. Let's jump into the news. Shall We fellas share. I have hesitated had to put a lot of twenty twenty one news in in this podcast in the I guess months prior to this because so twenty twenty one is when the big update for forming the one one is coming new cars updated rules that kind of thing <hes> and there have been rumors leaking out kind of throughout the whole process but this week or probably last week was the first time the F. One was <hes> like officially coming out with a lot of information saying like here's what we're thinking. Here's what we're doing so I figured that would be a good time to kind of go over what everyone is thinking. This rule set is what is being proposed to teams from the F._A._A.. And if they can agree with <hes> each other and F one and the F._A._A.. By September Fifteenth <hes> that will then go forward the to be ratified by the World Motor Sport Council on October thirty first and then everything would be all nice and set for twenty twenty one but the the Reisig goal here for forming the one has been something <hes> Ross brawn their sporting director he's been talking about for forever is improving the racing which I think f one aims to do and I think what a lot of people assume is the best way to go about doing that is by making it easier for the cars to follow closely if you've been watching the sport for awhile you we know that there's a problem with the turbulence that comes off of the cars as a result of their huge wings that produce downforce it basically makes the cars behind unstable in that damages the tires because they're kinda sliding around the track a lot and you just can't like if you get too close you get into that dirty air and it makes it much harder to to stay on the track frankly so <hes> the big thing that f. one is doing to combat this is an emphasis on ground effect instead of the big emphasis on wings they both produced ground downforce but ground effect is more like kind of like the fan car that was exploiting exporting like sucked the car to the ground. This and I'm by the way just to get this out up front. I'M GONNA make a lot of technical errors in this explanation but can I ask you one really early one actually just because you not only are you someone who hosts a Formula One podcast but you're also somebody who's flown planes quite a lot. I've grant effect is a term which comes from planes I right. It's like the the effect of the aerodynamics work differently when the plane is like on the tarmac as opposed to whether it's in the air it's close to the ground yeah plus really. Have you helicopter soms. Oh really okay yeah that makes sense because you're the direction of the air is being forced. I guess have you felt Delta's when you're flying is basically it's like a floating feeling or something yes so when you're it's most apparent when you're landing is when you're it's not like a linear like forty five degree angle when a plane lands and you know you don't do that and then hit the ground you come in and then you start to feel the ground effect and then you sort of float or the runway for a long time right because the air from the wings is hitting the ground and kind of getting a it's cycling ailing back into onto the wings so create like a pillow feeling or something or it's more like I wanted the plane to land but it's not in so the whole the trick is to hold it off as long as possible and not push it into the ground so that you basically stall out of the air and land on the runway <hes> I think this is a little different their similar <hes> physics going on but basically what the current the way the current floor lower of Formula One car looks is basically flat plane but what if one wants to do is create these huge channels that will basically act as a huge diffuser and by shoving air through those channels it will go faster underneath the car and thus reduce the pressure and stick the car to the track. <hes> this is a this is how indycar works they have smaller wings and they basically like races like the indy I five hundred they basically run no wing because they're just suck to the ground these ground effect cars so autosport has some really cool to know here to link this in the show notes pictures of what a twenty twenty one car could look like because you also not only do you have to have those channels underneath but you have to have duct in the side pods to push air underneath it and that also means that the the wings don't have to be as large particularly in the in the rear so I thought this was cool. We'll have one is even started rule breaking group to try to find Arrow loopholes that they're trying to anticipate what the teams will do but sharing hackers to set up your your network security the F. as head of single seater technical matters a guy named Nicholas Tomba's says that the ground effect only causes about five to ten as much turbulence <hes> as opposed to current cars which 'cause like forty five percent loss in performance for the car behind so <hes>. That's that's their big. Goal and grant effect isn't like it's it's not this isn't something being new to F one. It's something that they kind of attempted to eradicate. I feel like in in my in my mind's eye maybe rob you can lend your expertise to this. I it it was my understanding that it's sort of because it was making the cars almost too easy easy to drive that it was something that they were does trying to move away from for a number of years ground effects so the main thing that killed ground effect was a sense that it was unsafe and so it's interesting that it's coming back back because when they were being really aggressive with leveraging ground effect aerodynamics the idea was this was kind of like defend car was like the apotheosis of this idea but the problem was that it's actually just a broader issue with Aerodynamic Grip right as you begin moving away from Mechanical Grip Toward Aerodynamic Grip what you are creating a car that is moving faster turn faster and faster but if that grip if that was suddenly removed that grip is only lost. You have a car like travelling at catastrophic speeds that basically like we'll be very hard to regain control aired like ground effect act aero-dynamics. I think we're particularly focused for this issue because of where the grip was being generated and when it would be one that group would be broken. <hes> there is a disruption disruption or the car received contacts. There is a feeling that it was just it was dangerous and that enabled high rates of speed that maybe weren't safe <hes> if something went wrong but it's is also very different time I think the type of ground effect aerodynamics they're talking about now isn't quite as drastic like basically what the time at a standard aerodynamic elements under the car and I. Don't think it's like it was in the day. When there was kind of an interest in designing a car that was sort of you know sort of be suctioned onto the road rice? I'm trying to look up the the the weight of the weight aspires you as well between the cars and the the the lace seventies sort of grand effect era like the problem <hes> bt forty nine was about five hundred eighty kilograms uh-huh am nine hundred now yeah so you know with all the everything else we've got in there like the batteries and just a general sizing gate of the cars <hes>. I wonder if that is going to make a big difference ooh too but yeah I mean the the biggest problem they've had this is the perfect conversation to have coming to Hawk and bring because this is the I think the first circuit really stuck a third D._R._I.. Straight on it to try and get some way of getting people to overtake each other so I mean if they can remove what has been the sort specter of of this aerodynamic era away from F one and get rid of the dirtier problem this would certainly help or at least make overtaking less of this artificial sort of you know tit for tat. We've seen with the I._R._S.. Yeah I think that's a different discussion but I think if you could like they're they're going as far as to say about the tires as well that they thought that they think that the designed to degrade tires were mistake and they are reversing course on that as well yeah so tha Mbazi says <hes> yeah that means the tires will degrade. They don't force people to manage the tire so much they have a broader working range so as not to be as sensitive as they currently are the. I think the tricky part there is that we wanNA keep pitstops right. We can't just do a Formula E.. Thing have it feel like Formula One which I think biggest lie refueling is coming up again. I think F- I president John Todd was the one to I kind of about it yeah yeah. I think everyone else thinks it's a bad idea to and maybe rob you can illuminate a little bit about this but it seems from what little I've read is that teams basically solved it at a certain point and so there was no there was no variation in strategy. It was just like well. This is the optimal thing we're GONNA do it wasn't you don't have these quick. split-second calls like you do with tires these days and even so I don't know that it was necessarily the teams totally solved it. I think you run into same problem that no matter what paradigm you're using for what is going to cause the cars to come in and be serviced which is that the teams are going to converge on a a few viable approaches but there's not going to be a ton of different game plans. You can run enough one pretty much like there's three tyre compounds but really in terms of most Grand Prix we see eh. There's two strategies and then there's a fallback strategy of somebody's dealing with either a screwed up race or a massively compromised car performance with the fuelling era the rap on those races and I think it was a fair one is that they became really strategy driven races but even that works is that interesting not really. Is it fun watching Dole completely come apart because literally somebody can't finish the race or can't continue going wheel the wheel because their cars went round of gas so even when those things would come into play. It didn't generate like a more dramatic or interesting story for what a for one <hes> G._p.. was like so I I don't think I think it's telling the genre is revisiting that era in his head because he had a great deal of success in that era. I'm sure I am sure he looks back on it fondly and things the racing was great but I don't recall a lot of people saying the rules were particularly fantastic back then. I think this is just it's I mean it speaks to the the degree to which people enough one will all kind of avoid confronting just some of the contradictions of Formula One right well you know we create fast degrading tires and then then we'll force people to come in and they'll consider all these really baroque engineering challenge ways to sort of force some kind of action but they will never consider something like a reverse goodra grid race or something like that or fouls so blue I was I was wrong real real quickly. The cars are almost nine hundred kilos. They're they're seven forty <hes> all right but if we go back to the minimum weight era of like <hes> like the Turbo era in the eighties there were five hundred kilos so yeah and and so I think this this is the other thing is always twenty. One the twenty twenty one conversations the thing that makes me nervous is <hes> these conversations are supposed to be fair way advanced in terms of whether whether out and where the sports supposed to be for pinning down what it's going to look like in the future where these conversations appear to be happening. It's not that far along it feels like there's so much daylight and so much basic like definitional dispute about what makes a proper racing and so you get things like <hes> loud drivers saying the cars are too heavy and Ross brawn is saying well we can't because if we heavy cars of the price you pay for the Energy Recovery Systems which we've said is necessary for the Technical Foundation of the sport like we cannot go away from from the Hybrid v six Turbo Engines. That's that's a strategic shift. We've all we've all agreed upon and that was worth one hundred forty kilos and if you want cars to be light light and nimble like they were before that changed energy systems or like it was back when they were just <hes> you know turbocharged normally aspirated <hes> sorry turbocharged <hes> you know Traditionally v ten engines. You're not going to get that either and <hes> it feels to me like there's a great deal of discontent frustration with about with whereas if one is at right now and the stakeholders folders who are talking all have these radically different diagnoses of the problem that just that just feels like twenty twenty. One is not that far away these these this radio is regulatory overall is not like kind of needs to get done and it feels like there's such massive dispute about what good F.. One racing is advancing to say if I if Ross Brawn and maybe some of the folks who actually have their fingers on the button actually have a pretty good idea of what it is and they're just allowing doing these conversations to happen. You know so that everybody come to them. Yeah I wonder I I also think just to go back to the refueling thing for a second. I think it's a it's a disastrous optics problem for them as well the last thing that if one needs to do in the current era especially when they've done so much to bring in this in the hybrid engines and make them you know fans are complaining about have lied. The engines are anymore like we've. We've gotten past out. I think the last thing they need to do is start to reshow the specter of big oil all over. They're all over there sport. The climate crisis is only going to be something we're talking about more and more and the more work they can do or like the less work to do to directly put their head in between cross airs. There's I think is a is a good idea. Yeah agreed. I just wanted to run down the rest of the technical rules here that they're I think a lot of these are considered still. I don't know that anything has been set in stone but a lot of them are cost saving eating measures so a lot of standard parts. We'll rims <hes> wheel hubs and nuts pit equipment brake systems restrictions on the use of certain materials a reduction in wind tunnel time for teams is really GonNa Stick to McLaren. WHO's rebuilding her wind tunnel? I actually just learned that their wind tunnel is cooled by that giant pond in front of their arrives. That's why that pond is their their wind tunnel yeah and then other think still up in the air things reduction in the use of driver AIDS electronics in carpet car to pit telemetry <hes> and then introduction of more standard parts simplification one of the chassis record number of race personnel at race weekends. Yeah fries entourage is too big. Everyone's cousins turning up right but <hes> yeah that will be <music> hopefully confirmed by everyone thumbs up by September fifteenth and then ratification by the World Motorsport Council on October thirty first delight I got I think you're right. We'll keep you up to speed on that. Speaking of <hes> car improvements. Danny you WanNa tell us about Dean team. Is that is not the long. We're taking away from this particular story yeah. It looks like houses once again doing a split SPEC race in Germany this coming weekend four turns back at Silver God you're right. It's not exactly get much out of that one a lot of shame dot that's awful yeah this autosport. The Haas F one team will introduce an aerodynamic upgrade for Kevin Magnusson at at the German Grand Prix and continue its experiment Romain Grosjean Union the specifications from Australia Australia Not Austria the first race of the season and at the previous race in Britain grows on dropped the aero package Haas had introduced during during the first phase of his season reverted to the SPEC. You started the campaign with whoever these split SPEC experiment to try and zero in on the teams race pace difficulties was undermined by Grow Jon Magnusson colliding on the opening lap Magnussen's car will now have a new new upgrade designed to improve downforce on the car's overall driveability and a hawk line this weekend would grow on preserving the Australia SPEC package so if your member Gresham qualified magnusson right he just generally seemed to have a better time round the track on the old speck at least qualification but I guess the entire point of this was to see how well it fared over the course of the race because that's been their kid. He's he'll right is the the car has completely sort of fallen apart the longer. It's been out on the track and is this just direction. This is just because they they just don't know like they can't go back now because it would have just been a it was a wasted weekend no matter what but they just they just have to continue the experiment yeah I I think they need some kind of benchmark right. They need some kind of control group to figure out if where they're improve improvements have improved or were they were they have and I thought it was interesting. The bottom of this article to hear groans analysis of where the car was liking writing he says when we brought the upgrade in Barcelona I wanted to revert on Friday evening for me. The feeling was not so good from the rear end especially through medium and high speed corners. The feeling hasn't been good in those the feeling hasn't been good in those corners since then. Going back to the Melbourne package the car a lot better in those regions it shows that something was not working as expected now. The era guys are looking into it but we know it's been our weakness. Obviously that launch package has some limitation <hes> also has less downforce <hes> but it does have better stability so sounds like they're dialing in but I think they do need some kind of control. Yes talk at this stage. It's <hes> yeah the season slipping away from them as well the they were all everyone was kind of together other little group together a couple of Isis back but it's definitely spread at a lot more now so the kind of needs to get on top of it some insight into where speaking of week cars Renos car is weak from autosport dot dot com Cirillo beatable talking to them. He also says that it's really the medium speed corners particularly where <hes> they are long in their lasting. That's where the characteristics and the balance of the car hurting us. The good news is that it's one problem well identified properly really understood. It's just the time it will take to bring the solution. Changes are coming but not an awful lot will be done before the break I would prefer to have some substantial changes when that will be possible and also a long term plan including next year rather than trying to push something into the next race which is not going to make a big difference yeah a lot of medium speed corners coming up in Hungary as well or in Germany speaking of Reynaud Rob Yeah you remember we talked a little bit about optus on the <hes> on the drive to survive pod. We were doing for pitcher backers but remember that when we're there's sequence when Daniel Card I was trying to figure out what he's going to do next and theme of he wants to stay at Red Bull <hes> or whether he wants maybe do something else. He's hanging out with his adviser. At the time a little ball dude and guy's name is Glenn Beavis and that's always introduced is Daniel Cardis advisor which even at the time I'm watching catching documentary. I'm like that's a weird way. Refer doing it yeah yeah well. Apparently he's not aging and things have gotten a little bit sour because that Dude Glenview is suing Ricardo for ten million pounds bounds for a twenty percent commission on the Renault contract which is a big commission that is a big commission and it's Kinda messy because so beavis has a company and he clay like so basically his claim is that there are agreements governing <hes> his advice in the his vice and the role he plays in securing a new business and the operative part of this is according to be this he found the the Renault deal he set it up and then he turns the deal over to Ricardo's people because Ricardo has has his own company white dunes which is kind of his and his family's business plus a family friend that handles. It's kind of a company that acts as association but since since last year Ricardo has gotten official representation by C._A.. which is a major major originally like Hollywood talent firm at this point? They're a <hes> like representation agency across sports and media and so he is now working with C._A.. Nevertheless beavis claiming he he is owed a twenty percent commission on the value of the Renault deal because he started the conversation and then the conversation was finished up between Renault and requires people at White Dunes and so he wants his money. I have no idea how I can't evaluate. These claims obviously like you actually need to see what the contracts are. I can share like insured gossip and be Massey about like what we actually make this Jimmy. It's like the Dude's not N- agent he's an adviser. You want an agency if you want the agent's commission. You've got to be an actual agent like that. If if he's just running around is like I'm Daniel Ricardo's official adviser that made me mean something but doesn't mean his like it doesn't mean he's an agent doesn't mean he's like the official like legally empowered representative Daniel Ricardo and that's who gets the big fees yeah. I mean when C._A.. Took over. I can't imagine Ricardo thought great now. I'm paying to people when I get my when I closed this deal. That's not you know that's not how that is supposed to work like. I'm trying to think of a way which somebody said I'm trying to think of a way in which this contract isn't worded in a very direct manner like how could you maybe that's in rob him in for like surely it is though like surely this is just a case of looking at the paperwork and it's not just this weird gentleman's agreement of love like that's an absurd. That seems like a really High Commission even for I guess maybe for an agent at that. What you're talking about is like Ricardo being on twenty million a year like the whole thing's also feels like Ricardo Daniel? Get Your fucking affairs order white things sound the white dunes thing sounds weird to me to like oh his mom and dad plus a family friend are running a representation deal around him as well so like so his representation was a company that he ran with his parents in their body and then his day to day adviser is Glenn who is being paid according to Divas <hes> description of contract he had from two thousand fourteen onwards with <hes> with Ricardo was getting paid two hundred twenty five thousand pounds a year plus twenty percent is the average plus twenty percent commission on the value of all new new deals he introduced that were concluded by White Dunes or Ricardo and that begins to feel weird to me because either either be this as effectively his agent agent and then everything is somehow being routed back to Ricardo's company and his family as kind of a make work program for the Ricardo's or Beavis was basically like a conciliatory or counselor was to put some more in like manager territory which gets commission but not necessarily like the huge agency the whole thing. Just sounds like this is why you needed to have C._I._A.. Like this is the kind of Shit you pay. Hey good money for not to have to deal with but for his career to date Ricardo seems to have been content running his business through his mom and dad and then Glenn Yes my Buddy Glen Davis Mike Court my quarter million pound a year adviser he also does my laundry Viva states you. This isn't autosport by the way beavis states who's paid his revised retainer fee and also commissioned commission on new deals including one twenty percent per the agreement and one in the form of a rare Rolex wristwatch do dog if you're getting paid in a rolex trinkets yeah like and look it could be my seven yeah sure expensive ass Rolex is out there that are like the clearly they do add up to a significant chunk of change but man if you're if you're closing deals and instead of a twenty percent commission someone's handing watch that don't sound legitim- more <hes> right like if you're if you're saying they're being dumped me with commission. Forgive me that watch that begins the that that enters enters weird territory from a I'll take your bond child speaking of legal troubles just a quick update on at rich underscore energy on twitter dot com my God rich energy tweets now at Red Bull are taking William Story to court a cynic might see a pattern emerging hashtag rich energy hashtag better than Red Bull Hashtag William Story Hashtag Business Intelligence and then a photograph of of what is this particulars of claim Red Bull's lawsuit against Rich Energy Limited and William John Story the claimant alleges trademark infringement against the defendants in relation listen to their use of science identical and similar to the claimants well-known trademarks red bull and gives you wings in advertising for energy drinks rich and energy in the past has used Hashtag better than red bull and gives you horns so yeah I feel like they have a pretty good pretty good climb here but what I don't understand is why rich energy tweet this out and then say a cynic cynic might see a pattern emerging yeah. We're trying to figure out before we went live like what I'd also like. What what the tweeter is getting out? WHO also this is? Just this is where the story yeah that's right so like he's referring the observer in the third person in the opening salvo and then yeah a cynic might see a powder diverging like what the pattern that we see is that yes williams. Story is a fucking too. That's the pattern what's what pattern is. He talking to bash like that. He's an it that that everyone hates him. <hes> this this entire thing like this feels like the guy wanted to be somebody so so he gets involved enough one and starts Ryan's really aggro marketing campaign and he's not really running a serious or legitimate <hes> business red ball and now it's all coming apart and he's just kind of he's doing the thing where you know you. Keep like pretending like you're just having a good laugh none of this matters to you like Oh. This is hilarious. I'm just trolling now and it's no I think however plans this guy had there are basically like burning down around him and he is trying to sort of <hes> big himself up on on twitter. <hes> in the form of you know I mean I think you see this a bit sometimes like disgraced small-time executives like that but I mean we have a much more positive twitter brand story here as well true. That's true this was linked to us. I believe someone on twitter as well as <hes> more information from reddit dot com slash arch slash Formula One which is where I go for all of my updates on rich energy British G._T.. Three driver Rick Parfitt. perfet junior previously sponsored by rich energy now sponsored by white bikes amazing and there's a picture here that I will link white bikes great British bikes now adorns his car along with the Stag logo a looks yeah. That's great yeah. He says a very excited to enhance my new partnership with white bikes commencing this weekend. It's brilliant to be partnered with such an innovative company and their bikes are totally amazing. Expect some cool content from bronze hotch Hashtag big no more negative energy. That's good beautiful. Great Brian Listen all right well from from one red bowl to not another doc. I'm sure working Danny. We're going to Hockenheim which is a circus. I feel like F. One fans of any era of some sort of priors way. It's been kind of an interesting I guess like it's part of a cup lush with the Norberg ring. There's been times where it's been you know they've been toe to toe against each other for who's the German grumpy there has been times where there were two Grand Prix in Germany mini every year and in more recent years it's kind of been more of a an efforts one of them to sort of. I don't know a lot of the other ones just save some money for a while so that they can hold <hes> the German Grand Prix because both of the tracks of Hodge Hodge trouble funding over the past ten years or so this track was built in the thirties and it's a very quiet rural part of Germany it says south of Frankfurt and the the west side of the country originally was called the triangle corus choice. Maybe you can pronounce this one for me. Drew I know exactly how to do with the Drake's curse drake's Kerr's <hes> yeah good ones go with them and it was renamed. How can I bring when it was reopened? After World War Two they have have to do a decent amount of work on it though because tanked damage which is probably something that happens quite a lot of cobblestone streets in Germany and the forties as well. It was always known as a very dangerous track. The original track was incredibly long like it was basically basically sort of like the norge life nurburgring was this varies like a bunch of tr- like the name suggests Drago course just long straights with sharp turns on the other end of them and it seems to go on forever and as a result those like cars is going nuts speed. It was very dangerous to <hes>. There's a number of that's over the years. Probably the most infamous was Jim. Karkin like sixty s who died at the age of thirty two and my head he was always so old. It's crazy to think is a younger Dennis. They added Chicanes Iran then and also sorry that was in a formula two race. I wasn't an F. One. The first F one race was in one thousand nine hundred seventy and it happens because of the nurburgring boycott the went on that year where the F one drivers were basically saying like no. We're we're not going to drive on the north life anymore. It's just too remote too dangerous too fast and so they went to the nurburgring for that year at eventually went back to sorry yeah bet you went back to Hockenheim are they were talking on the it then went back to nurburgring after they decided to sort of reduce the length of the track and then it raced in. Can I bring between seventy seven and two thousand and six during the one thousand nine hundred sixty two thousand and six that's when both Ed on the nurburgring were on the same time there was a time where I think the Hockenheim was the European Grand Prix there was a number of courses renamed and also interestingly it was the Luxembourg grump free for a couple of years there and were they got both of them in there at two thousand the two kind of when the biggest fundamental change happen to track. It's always been one of these frank contracts. That's been changed quite a lot over the past <hes> <hes> you know ninety years almost at this stage but that's when they essentially they demanded ended they reduced the length of us because it was just too long. It was six point eight kilometers dot state so harmon Telka got on us. <hes> made a made a course out of it. <hes> the Mercedes turned up a bunch of money and built this massive stand on turn as <hes> but <hes> it's. It's kind of like one of it's it's a very classic looking F- One track to me when you go into the what is I guess the first I guess the end of sector three in the start of sector one which is this massive sweeping stadium. That's been there for over fifty years at this stage and like I said it's capacity of one hundred twenty thousand and they usually get close to it in the middle of nowhere which is pretty cool. I'll although the same copy seven the nurburgring which is equally in the middle of nowhere. I am unlike the nurburgring which is quite heli. This one's relatively flat. There's only about four and a half meter elevation change over the course of the entire thing and when it's not doing one races it's doing drag racing. The biggest European drag gracing festival happens here every year which is called. I I kind of want to spell this N.. I t. r. and then like Camel Case Capital O. L. M. Y. P._X.. So it's it's Nitro troll Olympics but it's done in the you know as if this was an edge drink or hacker alias yes totally yeah yeah absolutely crash override and Nitro Olympics going to take the network. Yes it happens every year as well and <hes> yeah. We've had it here since two thousand sixteen when the nurburgring had a bit more trouble with its with its funding I guess at last year's race ended up being a bit of a classic. It was kind of a good battle between Ferrari and Mercedes there was a lot of team orders between both teams with <hes> Reichen and letting past battle and near the end of the race Botas Leading Pass Hamilton but it was also one where rain basically made us a sort of a much more interesting thing race halfway through I'd also famously said crashed in the inner sort of an unforced error at a lights light low-speed corner and he was distraught on team radio almost like he was crying. You may remember and that sort sort of Honda's Mercedes the win at this is kind of Mercedes home G._p.. In that way as well as the Mercedes stand on Tournedos is actually I think tornadoes the name of the the turn is also Mercedes but in in terms of the track layout itself. It's very straight there. There are lots of like there's some long turning corners on it but generally they're flat for a large portion of this race they added when it came back. There was only one deregistration between the turn four and turn six which is the crazy hairpin where it's a long straight and then they have a very sharp hairpin. It's where a lot of the overtaking happens but they since out of two more straits and others at the restaurant on the pit straight visit the I._R._S.. Straight between turns one and two which are both sort of I guess turned to is kind of overtaking corner. One is taking pretty fast and then there's a third one immediately after that there are one two three between <hes> turn four slash five. That's sort of German parabolica is on this track and and turn six and then I guess so the the main areas to look for I guess are turned six Harrison. That's the big spot for people diving down the inside and under breaking people and then the other one is the sort right of the entrance into the old circus which happens between turn eleven turn twelve turn like fifteen sixteen and which is kind of a little arena section which has some interesting camera changes to medium speed corners that you can be tricky. This is where sad that went off and then just from viewers perspective <hes>. It's just it to me. It feels like old F. One old Grand Prix in a way where the the whether you're coming into that area the rising grandstands those very very Germanic grindstone's that the sort of one tier flash thirty five degree angle that sort of never seems to keep going into the into the horizon. <hes> you know <hes> those those are sort of sweeping around that whole section so I like it. It's a it's a race Dick and Kinda go either way. We can have a real boring one year or we could have something super interesting. There's there's places for overtakes happen artificially and otherwise <hes> am kind of depends on on on I guess however it turns up but it depends on the weather as well a lot of time well Danny. I've got some news for you. Then whether wise qualifying day looks to be quite warm warm low nineties and Fahrenheit or mid thirties and Celsius and on qualifying day precipitation eleven percent however that climbs to fifty percent or born race day with temperatures in mid twenty Celsius or high seventies Fahrenheit so why similar last year it was rainy day on race day high humidity win about seventy. Hey Miles an hour or eleven twelve kilometers an hour so yeah could <hes> could be anything you mentioned Mercedes. Columnist are home track. They actually have a new livery or a special one off livery. I think that they're preparing for the hundred and twenty fifth anniversary of dominator being in racing right so there you have teased some images on social media <hes> of a a white livery which I think is their traditional racing color. They're historic race and in color so <hes> that that'll be interesting if they do indeed run that in the race <hes> tire wise we are all over the place here they are the drivers taking between one and two hards and that is about an even mix across the field and then from one to four mediums Hokum Burg's only taking one <hes> and as is Danny caveat but Hamilton for stopping ghastly. I'll taking four sets of mediums <hes> and one sets <hes> one set of hearts by the way it's the D C Two c three and c four compound so not quite the hardest in the range <hes> yeah and then <hes> let's see Ricardo Hulk Lemberg and then keep caveat an album are the only ones taking ten soft tyres everybody else <hes> a fairly even mix of hard medium and soft. The houses are taken for mediums. The Haas's are taking no. It's a <hes> Magnusson got one hard three mediums grow John's got too hard to mediums which I guess jives with their their their even even control group WanNa make sure grown has the most Meta tires for science driver standings Lewis Hamilton on top with two twenty three voucher botas with one eighty four mattress tappin in third place with one thirty six bashing fell just behind with one twenty-three Leclair in fifth with one twenty. It's really he not third spot. <hes> pure gas in place with fifty five signs has thirty eight Reichen in with twenty five. Norris and Ricardo were tied for Ninth Place with twenty two points nego hoke number seventeen magnusson has fourteen <hes> Peres with thirteen caveat with. With twelve Alexander Album and fifteenth place seven points behind him land stroll with six Grow Sean with two and twenty GSI Nazi with one and George Russell and Bobby Kay <hes> with Zero Constructor Wise Mercedes got four zero seven Ferrari with two. I'm forty three Red Bulls got one ninety one McLaren in a solid fourth place with sixty points Reynaud in fifth with thirty nine Alfa Romeo's got twenty six racing point tied with toto her also with nineteen points Gene Haas team <music> are in ninth place with sixteen points and Williams bringing up the show yeah two hours Haas Yikes yeah in our fantasy league which you can join by following the link in the show notes with the offer code or the invite code to the future part three is in tenth place ninth. We got speed beasts eighth is pointless racing force seventh fry the tires number six is defcon one watch out for nukes. <hes> Five fifth-place is Muck F. One number four is Alpha emojis backup toward the top Mercedes. All the ways in third place number. Two is the Hamiltons break the system and still in first place steering wheel. Hey give it to me move come on energy. Did you see that the renames team beautiful. I swapped out Sergio Perez for Signs Yeah my point. Maybe maybe doesn't have it at least at the current moment so signs of feeling good about sides yeah scientists been has been Stallworth for me. He's been consistent of a lot of consistent kind of people online EFI like very very boring kimmy also if your if your team is sucking the you have one opportunity to completely wipe it before the Hungarian Grand Prix okay before the break before the break and then you have one opportunity after the break so so you're allowed one substitution IM- yeah okay other penalty free you can swap in one driver every race but if you want to swap in Multiple Yadda you lose ten points off your total every swapping so high risk maneuver indeed some emails Danny. It's do it absolutely shift f-foreign podcast gmail.com you could do that or you can be really cool. Go to the F. One dot com slash emails and still do I know I haven just it's been there forever. It's the it's like the male does people will keep sending birthday cards at this first question comes in from Joshua in the Netherlands. It's but W. series it was a great little race on this weekend so perfect time to catch up about it. At Joshua says over the weekend I attended my first racing events the W. series race in Assen. It was a great race but the reverse grid race on Sunday was even better. It's up on youtube so anyone who hasn't seen it really should watch it and I also call to the boss G._p.. which included some beautiful older cars F one cars like the two thousand and six taught or also and the ninety seven Benetton which turns out to be frighteningly allows? I wish I could listen to some of those classic cars and part of ultimate. Put this back on my radar and inspired me to go was listening to your podcasts. Thanks for that and it was a great opportunity to go see speedy race cars only about an hour from my home home my actual question. Would you consider doing a random slash overview of the W. series wants the championship has concluded concluded either on the regular pod or perhaps as a patron bonus become a big proponent of it. I'm getting to see a bunch of great women race who otherwise would not have been gotten the chance and the quality of racing is very good but I also have some criticisms about things like the limited availability to watch races online or on demand without an expense expensive cable package idea really like some of the additional content on youtube the paddock Pastel ran up so ted Kravitz and but they really shut uploads proper highlights for each race like every other series seems to do. I'd love to hear what you guys make of the inaugural series overall positive negatives love the podcast that was from our GRA friend Joshua in the Netherlands yeah so it might be called to as a as a Patriot on bonus thing but let's check in with the three of us how we feel about the series so far I watched that race. It was live on youtube but I didn't know it was going to stay there so I kind of watched it live. I think it was three A._M.. To to to I guess enjoy then and yeah it's it's. I feel like even the quality of racing has gotten better since thought original races well everyone sort of a bit more comfortable and then the fact that they just keep the reverse grid was one thing but the fact that they swap cars every race and swap engineers every race to keep that sort of consistency are the competition and has been super refreshing true. You're talking about last week. I remember about how you've been enjoying his two. Did you catch the race over the weekend. I did not catch this one but yeah thankfully it is on Youtube. I'll put a link in the show notes in it appears to be available for even Americans to watch yeah no V._P._N.. Required as as with the the twitter archives <hes> until now <hes> but yeah I I agree like I was saying I think it was last week that <hes> that that shuffling of cars and engineers as has really allowed the audience to see where where the real talent is <hes> like the like if you can still be consistent when you've got a different car in a different engineer and everything and go out there and qualify and then finish the race high like that I I think that kind of says it all right and personally having watched. I think I've seen four races to this point. <hes> that format has enabled the championship standings to line up with kind of where where my perceptions are so I'm no expert but I think that <hes> that's a really cool way to to run a racing series and you're right the racing's been really close <hes> and they've actually done a number of profiles like two or three minute profiles on the drivers on their Youtube Channel <hes> that you know you get to see <hes> who these people are and what they're like so <hes> from from that angle I think the they've been doing a pretty good job. Time will tell well of course whether this achieves its actual goal of getting women into other parts of motor sport but <hes> the package. It's still pretty rough in terms of broadcast live videos tough <hes> live sports racing. I think is a difficult thing to to to pull off but <hes> yeah I hopefully the growing pains will even out and next year. It'll be even better yes so I haven't and followed it much. I caught the reverse grid though <hes> raised that because I was like I haven't checked it on the W.. Series wonder what their youtube page is like and it's bad. It's not a good scene like and this is the really frustrating thing of if one of the things you're testing for is whether or not you can generate interest around a women's racing series the thing to make that a fair test is to make sure that is widely available and they haven't done that like w series stuff does not show up on my <hes>. D._V._R.'s like guide. <hes> never do a lot of small racing series like my d._v._R.. Basically nose that like F. One is happening and those indycars happening happening knows NASCAR's happening beyond that doesn't have a good sense of like when or what series are running so I go to the channel at the appointed time and like find it on the daily schedule. I think w series is ended up there for me but in terms of there's almost no reality in which this thing isn't going to be a loss leader for a while so if you're already dealing with that reality why it's just throw this shelvin youtube just do do it like let people see saying and like get to know the the the women competing in it and instead what you have are videos of Ted crap like this is the worst thing you go to the W. series page. It's basically Ted Kravitz content and like the person being showcased on their youtube is Ted Kravitz who is fine but I think there's something really illuminating and regrettable when it's like all right but let's see. Let's see what the latest content from the W.. Series is as Ted Kravitz wandering around pit lane. I don't want that the reverse grid race kicked ass though like if you have not seen this. I'm GONNA give you a couple of seconds to stop listening right now. Go look that up on the W. Series Youtube because the fifteen second button the heads the button on your podcast and a couple of <hes> but the reverse grid race was awesome. It was first of all it was it actually did expose the degree to which there are some true like apex predators in that field in sharks yeah but what at the same time when you didn't have anybody who's walking away with it like people starting at the back weren't just like carving the way up the field and running away with like it remained a pretty close series and they didn't have a couple of safety cars <hes> the bunch things up up but it was a pretty like <hes> closely contested race and it ended with just a wildly exciting finale basically the woman had started on pole making focus. I get the impression Russian. She's a bit of a rookie or young as well yeah so like kind of a sort of a novice stage of her career and was starting from pole. We'll <hes> and she managed to hold onto that like at no point did she. She had a couple people like make challenges on her throughout the race. She fended them off pretty. Well until uh-huh Alice Powell slipped back there and what was really cool. Here is what what cars driving what SPEC series of the form yeah. It seems seems like this is a really unforgiving series for if you have an attack go wrong your car like your car will lose so much momentum that like if you do not make a move stick what seems to be happening to everybody who got into a wheel and lost it is that immediately plummet like three or four places because they would just get snapped up by the train following them Powell and mashed car her way forward there and launched punched attack in the final laps of the race and like you wish you saw stuff like this one every week. These are pretty simple cars. They were racing wheel-to-wheel. I swear to God when they touched a few times running around there. It was incredibly intense racing and every time we thought the Dole was over. Paul Somehow closed it back up and like found a way to make another challenge through the corner. It went down to literally the finish line and like I had to double check. Back to see who'd one because it was it was amazing. It was one of the closest finishes I've ever seen. I think you'd have to go back to <hes> like three thousand yeah yeah it was it was an incredible finish to the race and that wasn't the only good tool in there so watching that like it's not a great production. They don't have enough cameras. I think one of their best cameras positions was looking through a window where you're consistently seeing reflection from the camera man over the track like cut like the the view of the main straight and then across the first turn. I kept thinking they're smoke on the brakes are going on yeah but it was a great race and immediately made me wish that there were wasn't entire series worth races on the Youtube. There's nothing there's a couple of driver profiles. There's tied Kravis and then because this one specifically had no points around vacations they were allowed to put that up on Youtube and it's good ad for the series like if you have to have one on youtube that's probably the one to have <hes> but yeah like it is a a bit more sympathetic to the Youtube thing the way this works is this I think the complications of having the multi Internet like multinational multi regional licensing deal means that they were never it was going to be such a massive of throwaway of money for them to say that they could put these raises up on Youtube especially the first year. It's never going to happen. People are too worried. It's a new youtube channel. You've no embedded audience. It's going to be a night where the first couple of rates go up and no one's GonNa Watch them right. They need to terrestrial audiences to get people to actually watch this so that the w series Youtube Donaldson he feels more like a community hub where yes they have <hes> Ted doing his truck walks through these really well produced. I've actually read enjoyed watching them like <hes> backgrounds on on Marta Garcia hair and bites gevisser on a bunch of the the racers <hes> I am and then I guess what they're going to have to have is these tentpole moments that get people to subscribe because they're under ten thousand subs at the moment <hes> and on social blade they've been like collecting demand subscribers but it's when they put that race up that that's all they they got their views they get new footfall and get new subscribers so my hope is that like once the series is over like the season's over maybe at that stage we saw this reform the right like a lot of the time they just can't say anything and then hopefully at the end they'll be able to do something like put up a bunch of things or maybe next season they'll be able to introduce youtube as part of their strategy because they have more of an embedded audience there and because you know they figured out about their production pipelines niche on like make sure television works right before before they go over and do this thing so my hope. Is that like the formerly thing like the first year it's just like a groundwork thing and have like enough there and then you know. Hopefully they have a highlights package for us in here but that's like fifty eighty six seconds right so they're probably doing as much as they can so I don't know I'm kind of I hope this there's not loads here at the moment but my hope is this they'll be able to add more to it like they qualifying for missing Oh here and a couple of other things he's like as as people get into it. How does blunk Pon make it work because they're running 'cause they're G._T.? Series is all on Youtube like the full races there live youtube the full videos are on Youtube and like it's not a shoestring series. It's a pretty serious G._T.. Series and that's probably why because they have an audience for me and get away but it's because people are waiting for the racist whereas this one is just trying to prove itself so much yeah it reminds me of like my whenever I look youtube or a music videos for bands these days on youtube like really good bands already good songs and they've got like you know. Six thousand views on their video probably cost twenty grand to make and you're like what's going on. There's so much good content at their. It's so hard <hes> in a way W series is fighting against other youtube channels. It's fighting just getting people in within racing to watch this and ultimately the only way that's going to drive interests. If the racing's good so thankfully early this reverse grid race did that it seemed to prove it. It's their highest watch video by by a long shot including their launch so you know my I'm hopeful I I feel like more than anything else but ultimately rob. You're right like they need to for. Everyone's sake they need to get this in front of more is right. <hes> just an aside here also <hes> you can also find the twenty th the twenty the I.. Racing twenty four hours of SPA in advance of the pretty epic a twenty four hour race. They're going to be doing this coming weekend. But that's the one where Max for stopping and Landowner Morris's racing team competed and won and Max was supposed to drive the last stint apparently but broke off the brake pedal on his Sim rag and so North Tag in at the last second to get them across to a race victory but I am surprised at how good this I racing sports broadcast looks like I racing is not cutting edge but there's a camera angles looks pretty presentable speaking of yeah. It's cool. Oh yeah no email from Michael in Minnesota says hey shift if one crew I take your advice from last week's episode and followed Landau Norris on twitter but for the added bonus content I followed him on Instagram to he was plugging his Irish team there which he is on accompanied by Max and to other drivers. I know you've talked about it on the show before so I thought you guys might find this humorous. It turns out that everyone team redline P._R._T.. The online team that maximum compete with except Leno is named Max for their sake. I hope this doesn't cause them any radio confusion. They're talking to each other discord during the races. Maybe I'll have to live stream on and find out how they address each other or racing in real time when the number of maxes is to the Max Max stop-and Max Ben Kay ah Ben Ben Ik Ben Affleck and Max Wedding so even the two Germans surnames. I'll try to find some some of those highlights and the and the full Reysen linked them in the show notes so you can see what what what what I racing looks like stream. They've got a commentator and everything actually just out curiosity. I pulled up his land IOS twitch page just before we started recording and he was playing player on the ground so really the most relatable generation of f one stars. I'm so happy for night. That's that's great yeah. If you'd like to send us an email you can do so at shift of one podcast gmail.com or hit us up on twitter at shift up one podcast. I am address Callan. That's at Danny O'Dwyer at ROB's acne. That's US around the Internet but should we take it around the world yeah. It's probably time to raise the band <music>. Hey supercars are happening this weekend. The Queensland raceway champions way in Willow Bank Queensland <hes> indy-car is at mid Ohio for the Honda Indy Two hundred the G._O._p.. Is in the Czech Republic at <hes>. Let's see what is this place called Lockett for the Amex G._p.. Lock it in the Czech Republic. The I._R._A.. Is in Sonoma raceway J- just up the road from me. <hes> for the cinema nationals also Gander Mountain true cooks. They're racing at the Pocono raceway the tricky triangle Gulf for the Gander R._V.. One fifty the xfinity series also followed them. No I'm sorry we're at the Iowa speedway for the U._S.. Cellular to fifty but the NASCAR's or we're the s-curves noteworthy actions they followed them trucks all the way to Pocono for the Gander R._V.. Four hundred NASCAR sponsor pod candor kind guess and Formula One. What do you know we are racing at Germany Hockenheim ring kicking off at practice one time Friday five a m eastern time? That's right good morning on E._S._P._N.. To practice to Friday at Nine A._M. on E._S._p._N.. U. University of sports practice three Saturday at six A._M.. E._S._P._N.. Two qualifying is Saturday July twenty seventh seven to nine A._M.. Eastern time on E._S._P._N.. Two and the race everyone Sunday July twenty eighth nine A._M.. On E. S. P. N. Nine A._M.. Nine A._M.. Eastern time plus five minutes. Oh yeah sorry sorry nine five no prefecture this week had disappointing. I know yeah let them let them rest. Oh speaking w series I tweeted this from the F. One twitter account but they have revealed reveal chair from the F.. One twitter can't on twitter account. That'd be really funny. W series has won with our podcast. They're prizemoney. Oh so first place we'll get half a million dollars Jesus. That's yeah that's more than I was expecting actually and everyone gets something down all the way to seventy five hundred dollars for eighteenth place and <hes> and then the reserves below that so yeah second place gets to fifty <hes> their place one twenty four th place one hundred grand <hes> yeah it's cool they also I think we mentioned this in in a few episodes ago but they have <hes> they will be getting superlicence points from K._F._i.. Sa It's not determined how many though like what you know on what level <hes> with another racing series they will be but <hes> after this <hes> from twenty twenty on the racers racers in <hes> w series will earn superlicence points and if you don't know what that is you need a certain number of superlicence points to be able to race in Formula One so they will start accruing for w series drivers from next year. That's awesome. That's like one of the one of the missions right was to get that in so nice work out all right. If you like to support the show you can do so a patriot dot com slash shift F. One anything else from you Danny Noxitril for the rice. We'll see how it goes could go anyway any which way and maybe some of that depends on those clouds so pray and look up everyone Robert Sorry he's thinking about. He's praying. He's praying for the class. The Mercedes is prank clouds another hot race. They're screwed anyway. Yeah find the Arabs acne race all right. Well have a good race. Everyone and we will see you all next week yeah.

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Why F1 must listen to Lewis Hamilton

The Autosport Podcast

58:30 min | 1 year ago

Why F1 must listen to Lewis Hamilton

"Welcome to Sherwin Williams. Hi there. I heard paints or thirty percent off yet and stains to right here, only your neighborhood Sherwin Williams store right now. Well, June twenty-first through July. Bring it in. I'm a big hugger. It's cool. Ask Sherwin Williams, June twenty-first through July eighth and save thirty percent on paints and stains with sale prices starting at twenty six ninety four only at your local Sherwin Williams store, retail sales only some exclusions apply. See store for details. It's the spoke podcast. We discussed Lewis Hamilton's challenge to rulemakers and ask how it can really make a difference. Much vaunted new regulations for twenty twenty one major talking points in the grand prix paddock right now. But fully times well champion Lewis Hamilton, the end of the recent French Gordon free weekends some grenades proceedings with his comments. He said they've got to make serious changes to the decisions they've already made what's when twenty one should be big words from from Formula one star driver. I'm your host. Joining meets discuss. The significance of this is Scott Mitchell. I should say wear in dangerous territory for Scott Mitchell, because we all back in Australia. We all in the very spot where long-term listeners of the podcast will remember the famous horse that disagrees with Scott, Mitchell hangs out the horse is nearby. Y'all been reunited, we've mind longtime nemesis, why my rival of the last twelve months, he's been bit quieted light. But I have I photographed his existence if, if you follow me on, on, on Twitter, you can have a look at that, but yeah. The I think we're gonna avoid animosity this week because only been on, I'm not on the on that side of the house. The, the, the lovely place that we stay, I think think what's supposed to be user of this, this, this house. For awhile now setting my third years staying here. Very lovely people who own it, and we've got so like bedrooms, up on the first floor and the farm just behind the house where the whether little paddock because horses, and there's a there's a room out the back of the house of abou- Caen the stretches out we recorded the podcast last year we certainly had a bit of unwanted Audie. Audio intrusion didn't we from, from the horse, outback? But I'm on the other side of the house. So if, if, if I want to square off with my nemesis, I'm gonna need to charge for someone else's very many glass panel to get to him. And likewise, hint to me. So I. Think will be quite safe. Quite a lot of obstructions to at coined base to censor, because they saw the hotel is quite high. Now, there is there's a ladder down. But the horse would have to be determined to disagree with you so much, that he actually scales ladder to get here. So I think the most lot looking out the window attract to start the disagree. Well, we'll see what we, we need depends on how much how much irrit- if I if I'm so eerie tainting. The, the inanimate objects are able to, to gain sentient in attack made them, ferret are certainly some of the stuff I get on Twitter would suggest that the objects would go to the rounds of to the extent of becoming sentient to have a go at me. That's certainly what the, the internet suggests, and obviously, the internet Rosal and his king. So obviously terrible human being. And that's why that's that's probably why Twitter account set up around about twelve months ago. So one of the holes that disagrees with me. But if you say anything, truly objectionable, I'm sure I'll be able to now your win in order to two points outs. How? However, on you because we are in lovely rule passive Australia, very rolling hills and it's very pleasant. We, we came from Gretz Elliott today, having flamed from, from niece to Vienna of it say, noise about this cracking rice, the rice Radi takes over the locality, where live every distance from the track of about twenty minutes drive something that, but it's, it's a fantastic event the Australian. Yeah, I love the Australian craps lately. The top rights, one of the best of the season is bright up. There isn't to be to be considered the best race of the season as a as a gorgeous looking out with my hotel room window guesthouse room window. We should say, and is beautiful is interchangeable with most parts of Australia or the limited puzzle, share that I've seen, because basically once you get outside of Vienna. It's pretty much just sprawling Greenhills isn't it sprouting Greenhills and constantly changing speed limits? Yeah. They made you furious on the way here, almost is furious, the F on twenty twenty one regulations and rulemaking pro. Appears to abide Lewis Hamilton, effortless, segue, very, very well done. Well, let's, let's read the Lewis Hamilton, quote in full. This is all down to the fact that Lewis Hamilton was one of the drivers that attended the, the recent Paris meeting, Mercedes, those total sets a soloist Veltri. Can you guys? Please lowest Winslow takes a clear interest in, in this kind of thing. And the, the full quotes he said it was encouraging that they allowed us to be there. They were really, really welcoming, which is great. I'm hoping they'll continue to have us there. A couple of drivers each time they've extended citizen making roles. I think they need to because they are nowhere near where wherein east to be in my opinion. They've got some serious changes to the decisions they've already made for what twenty twenty one should be. Now, these are very strong words from a big embassador for formula. One think it's clearly some issues very, very strongly about and to his credit, he stood up and, and, and interjected. Now how you can put a little bit of context. Where where he said these things, and how, how it was presented to recite something you're in the ring when he was talking about it wasn't amused responding to my question, which, obviously likes may super important, and very relevant unlikely it was after the French Grand Prix. He eased spoke about this phase is actually did Louis, sir. I was in the post race press conference. He finished up some lengthy TV interviews downstairs, and then joined the press conference slightly to the annoyance of a few people, I think it's completely different topic, but that that was surprising to me because the only reason Lewis light to the press conferences. He was fulfilling his TV obligations downstairs. So, but with that people are no Dave is like, well, it's the usual thing, isn't it. If he if he Prague's away from the TV sets the press conference, I've always just doesn't fairly it feels to TV, if he doesn't get to the press conference to to council, and it's nonsense, needless, as Louis than went onto show when he was in the press conference, he proved over these people just think he's the think that he thinks he's bigger than everyone else. But talking about why he. I went to Paris for this summit mayton to delay the rule. So first of all, he was he was interacting with, with the one of the British newspaper. Journalists bent hunt from the sun who Aben to his not his discredit because I think he was expressing what most of us actually after the French Grand Prix. It was a bit of a dull one and Louis notice depend. Louis words, he said, you look, so poor Ben, Ben just say, well, yeah. But this is right now, isn't it? You know, we will know that's Bensaid and that trigger that trick at the first response from Lewis of initially any will no anger towards just genuinely wanted to discuss the issue of whether it was boring on all the fact that everyone's boring. And who's to blame? What's do about the first thing you want to do is make clear that people shouldn't be pointing fingers at driving fessing, you wanted to make clear is that people don't pointing fingers at the drivers and they should be blaming the room is because it's automatically. Elusive was a sign of bad decision making has led to one being a formula that has the capacity to have boring races, like the French Grand Prix. And so he said, you know, he cares about this to the point where he went to this meeting in Paris. And so. So I followed up to Lewis talk about that meeting in Paris. What did you go there? What did you want to gain from it? How do they encourage didn't encourage you? And that's what triggered a long answer. Few minutes worth of Louis seriously. Thinking about it. Not eating shooting from the hip. He never. She's from the hip anymore. I'm sure there's moments where he speaks motionlessly, but he's never just take like he's never just firing things off about taking aim and just saying something for the sake of the often pauses and has a bit of a thing about what he's to say. And then tries to work out how to our lights. And I think sometimes he does like a little bit of time. Arranged isos. There's nothing wrong with that because I remember back in the early days when he's in formula. One he used to have this, this talking second, third year when he might be asked to potentially controversial question. Econ of choice talk around there. And then he'd almost dig himself a big hold on throw him in self accidentally. So I think now he he's kind of, as we old is, as you got older, more expansion, and how to deal with this stuff now. Thank you, take time. He has thinking often articulates some some very, very insightful thoughtful things nothing. The war economists deny the what he's saying is, is what he genuinely things you want to agree with that. But I think he's one of the drivers that really does Troy to give you a meaningful answer. And it's not just a, the Megyn contrarian is among things that you got from Samis just to well, actually yet something needs to be changed. He's realized he's a very, very powerful voice. Well, this is the thing. So first of all, we've established that Lewis does genuinely care about this an issue that you take seriously. He's, he's talked about twenty twenty one rules being significant in terms of whether he resigned from eighties resource for folks. Continuing formula. Yeah. And it's also important for him because he talks about one to he just didn't improve F one as a hull. So is a vested interest in. There's a wider interest as well. So yet, so I, I things really important that we establish that, when Louis speaking about this whole thing is considered is wealth is well-intended, isn't just taking potshots at the rulemakers. That's, that's the first thing that's really clarified. That's why all of what you just said is relevant. And the second thing is Louis incredibly well-placed make these comments, not this. That doesn't mean that as driver his what is gospel near room, making should follow suit. But as a five time world champion, he's was most relevant decorated person in grand prix racing today. This someone on the current grade to speak about these things, he's most successful driver, therefore, he come on the most authority and linked in with is the fact that he's been driving. One now for eleven years across five different rule sets. You could argue the twenty on teen changes on a major one. If you saw fro twenty nineteen in seventeen and eighteen because you don't think the front wing changes in the, the bottles and brake ducts, and blah, blah, blah, have changed things too much. Than four major rules packages at the very least, Louis it's been a part of. So he's been through this decision making process all being so ver. Been just outside the bubble of this decision making process for for eleven years now any seen the why the scene in hood, all of the promises about what is meant to change what it's meant to achieve, and then he's, he's lived with the consequences. He's won races in championships across these different roles psycho. So he he's incredibly well, informed just F one in general about war, the context. These one twenty one twenty twenty one changes happening in on the final PA of this makes Louis such a relevant voice is that he was in this meeting. So this, the whole point of this meeting in Paris a couple of weeks ago now was to break the deadlock over the F one twenty twenty one roles because for goodness sake, the first negotiations discussion, should we say about twenty twenty one was the grand prix in twenty eight which was in, I grow fifth fourteen fourteen months ago now fifteen months ago could going on loan before absolutely. But in terms of bringing in the different stakeholders so extended it beyond their one in the FAA to the teams this when it's all. Oh, really kicked off and became right? This is our vision. What do you think on fifty months later? We still don't have a fun say an absolute joke. An and shame on the rulemakers in it to this point, the trouble is looking at the white a problem is, it's not in the rulemakers very loose term isn't isn't. Because for example of Asli we've got in the technical saw the research team effects on the Ross. Perot pass is all the research had very, very knowledgeable experience, is what he's doing on some extreme you could research. And it's very, very positive. The extent of the research, think if you look back in all podcast archives as a. An interview Simmons where he talks about some of the research, particularly of this year's rules, which were more FIH based on some of the research, but, but it is very, very different. So that that's improvement. Apparently from what we hear they have big gains in sons of working out ways to make it better to follow at cetera. But if it was just a question of sites. Pat Simmons and his team and Ross Brawn. I k- sits in a room come out with regulations that achieve ABCD f- to, to a point. They can they can do it wouldn't be perfect. It is tricky, but as a whole global picture. So one of the big things the biggest single thing is the is the inequality of income for the for the teams. And ultimately, this means that red bull Mercedes Ferrari. They get huge Shire of the revenue that have more money to spend and that creates this division is no coincidence, that we call this toll three the kind of broken away over recent. Yes. But all politics related to that. And for our. Everyone can throw their weight around so they have a even if they don't have a right saying the rules, they can leave rich the rules because it turns into what if you do that we could pull out this the other creates this whole whiter problem? So the reason I say, this say, the rulemakers is a is a broader term. It's more placeholder for not just those making the rules, but also the, the whole political landscape and the willingness of liberties leadership, noses out George because whenever we have these big broad optimism. In case ways to change everything I always, always full show have been for a long time, and we're talking about cost caps now, well, the results restriction agreement, a decade ago was meant to be brilliant, eventually coach and also with driven three that, you know, all these things keep happening, and we end up in, in, in different versions of the of the same place, and it's because of that. So when I say the roommate is I mean, the the is one is the FAA's the teams in the all the stakeholders, involved, basically and between them. They've managed to fudge this much the we're still at the point now where we should've got a signed off analysis pushed by twelve Toyota and the reasons being pushed back because of this meeting, so the meeting took place because they needed to break the deadlock because there were the latest round of af. One proposals to the teams was met with quite law concern. And to the idea was right. We need to get this done because per the FAA's rose when he this is the. The most council meeting just on the T weeks ago. And that was going to be the last chance to ratify the rule. So if that didn't happen, then they was gonna be a minefield because. You've got to this point where the F I needed to confirm the roles in the rules, went Donna, and it would have just created source of, of problems there after. So this meeting was really, really important. Lewis went along Nico comeback went along grand prix drivers association. Silence I went went along, and it said we solve expected to there will be some kind of Dr involvement or that be teams president in that sawed thinks stakeholders in, in a different sense, would be there. But so I'm precedent it to have that drive involvement in Lewis certainly, took in very, very excitedly about the fact that they were finally allowed to be in the room in, in his words. If they've been kept out of that room for a very, very long time, and he doesn't think that's appropriate. So that sort of the, the final, part of why Lewis's comments associate -nificant because he's, he's an ultra successful driver, and given his off track reputation and how how global his his appeal is okay? He's not a household name in America or something that base the neck is the next best. Thing as far as concerns he's the biggest reaching and the most excessive any driver. That's the first thing he's got so much experience now across the board, the perfectly well-placed judge the process in consequences of these rulemaking moments decisions, and all of that, and instead that he was he was in the room. So he, he is now seeing these proposals firsthand. He has seen the way that process comes together, and he doesn't lie what he's saying in the this is offset this a few times now. But the, the French Grand Prix was bad. But we know that if once in a position that might wear a can be bad and the whole point twenty twenty one to save fun and, and move away from that, and make it, much better and more. Tightness bore over overall when and his Lewis Hamilton, turn around and sign off the seeing things close for the first time wall. This is nowhere near what we need, which is that's much. That's more concerning than what Louis did on track in, in France by dominating. Lebron everyone board for fifty three laps. However, long rice was a very, very big statement. It should be taken seriously Ross Brawn already. He said, yeah, we're looking forward to working with Lewis and the joy on this kind of thing. So that's great. But something needs to come from it. Now we have to be a little bit careful because the joy is a well placed to give feedback as as Lewis Hamilton settle on certain aspects drivers Leonsis, actually, drove his really loved the, the kind of sprints between refueling stops. Former that didn't lend yourself a great deal to, to either taking his really loved, because I crack his on, but it wasn't actually it was not cheap that pulp complaints those watching as well. So it's not the formula. One should become a thing this holiday excitable, the drivers, but they all are important input insert, and Vitaly, I think there's Hamilton has done hair, and he's kind of a little bit like in price likely you have the patrol the pallet pallets on. He's the kind of experienced mice later and Lewis says, oh, mice, mice experienced Georgia, and former Kimmy garlic, and it's not going to be taking their own. I think it's great that he's, he's created this, this thing in publ-. So actually everyone's going to be asking the rule. Mike is now. Right. Well, what are you talking about? What Lewis brings pressure? It's a barrel them and it's not just an off hand thing. The simple fact says the best in the world if. If George Russell, it's this interesting insightful character, he wouldn't really have mattered. But this is Lewis Hamilton, this isn't a rookie driver with acorn brothers about it's a five times well, champion for mice bankable commodity easing his position so effectively represent the drivers. And I think it's great that he's willing to do that. The real question now is all the drive is really kind of United them. All they see GPA kind of claim they are so potentially what Lewis is done is really open the door to, to this impotence throwing down the gold leads to the to those making the rules. Well, it's very interesting that you've, you've put out that came as more experienced, but isn't gonna take out the handle, because when he does also I didn't guys Paris. He said, it'd be pointless. He actually swab off Saccone swear. The cast. 'cause he was dismissive about everybody's just said, well, the GPA had direction so wanted to be that imagine every job on the grid took that very verse. He's going. So what do we need guy lies? Pathetic is such a steep dog passive, the thing is. If you don't have a go at being involved in actively van. Do you lose grave rights complain about it down the line? Well, exactly like Kim. He's been asked before. So does he think that one's go Becerra was in his time there? He says, all well you know, they were trying to change things. It doesn't really feel change things get involved, this whole point just sit there and say, well, the body that represents mazing vote only. He's a world champ. He's the most experienced driver on the grid. So why you use that, that's the thing this, that's the thing that's good about what how done. And I'm sure there's gonna be loads of people that just think, wow, it's just Louis thinking he's really self important and just saw talking about how great years again, so he's actually stood up and said, I don't like this, and not only as he just said, that, like it for the sake of it. He turned around and said you should be putting pressure on the people. In charge. It's the same is the baked in problems from years and years ago when when Bernie encoded preference gave preferential deals to the big teams and they wanna protect that. So this process is just been has been one-sided for so so long. And if it takes people like Hamilton to speak up in point pointing the finger and put them under the spotlight, then the room is half the stand up and be counted for the hopefully the process becomes more transparent at least to the drivers and response as being good. You mentioned that Ross bronze already said he's looking forward to working fluids. He says they're already Freeman meetings planned for the drivers will be involved. Lewis has to go into some more. He doesn't know assess because he's a busy guy like most of them are. And I'm sure that Paris, medium becoming a thing. So lives over the Canadian grow pre weekend, it was really the really nice down. So they would have been people that ten days later had certain things Lewis was already empowers anyway for what was going to be in Paris for. Power spectrum weeks. So the tide noise, but he might not be able to go to the next one. Maybe Sebastian vessel will go to the next one another multiple world champion who has spoken critically formula. One in recent weeks off his controversial penalty in Canada said that the way one racing's gone. It's left us. Oh, speaking lawyers. Get vote said, you know, use your voice trying to Toyin a little bit of pressure on, but as good as well. That size from aside, he's Kane. I wanna destroy guiding of else reports said that soul now on the first added Francie. He said, one of them, let's should guy. So this is potential prices, whether it leads anywhere. I know. But ultimately, you talk about the different stakeholders in the, the drive is all quite a promise promising, one of the things Louis talked about, is the way to the cars, the gone up significantly over the past ten years or so now, for the most part, that's stands the increased engine. Complexity of the crushed roaches. The they've been to put a few of little things, they put the whites up little bit for Wales. Others. For example, in the past, but it has meant the coastguard and actually not only will the drive failure. But also, you can say it's sale television, you can certainly say from trackside the 'cause look less alive in a bit more wallow a little bit Lazier than they used to. Because if you look back ten fifteen years, and that, that kind of raise a shop turning that you've got going pre 'cause that's been etched away. Well, that's still mightily Myton the impressive and stunningly fos no question. But the speed is delivered in a different way. Not so good example, because that's something that a thing does impact the spectacle of formula. One two people watching in the outside world, as well as the drive is in the colpepper. A find interest in the, the when Lewis speaks about stuff like the white, and he goes into detail about the effects of it. So he's talks about the state of the art breaks. The, the F. Calls have the idea that the, the causes basically just heavy heavy of the call the haughty what the brakes? So the, the more limited, the, the, the breakings I become so then can you ready put the car on the limit is going to deter people from racing because you can't breaks onto that of Giresse all maybe the argument is the flip side that you can have jobs? We fade breaks and races become more live. I somehow don't think that'd be the case suspect. In reality, you just have Dr is managing things more, but he just it's interesting to his drivers, and this is one of the things so interesting about it for me is, because when you don't have drivers vote in that process, and you hear about new rule the FAA or F one talk about something under discussion. When we think the drive is put in front of us, we say, what do you think about this audit? No also, like it's not my thing. But when, when you when you have a driver get involved, oh, actually they're talking about doing this his the consequence day. Actually personally think this is gonna work. That's interesting for. Rospa is valuable feedback in the process of making these decisions. You'll. Right. Absolutely. The drivers don't have all the solutions. Maybe maybe they have very few solutions. How was just hives basically the things that they're saying about carbohydrate what they think they might need to overtake RAV? It's not necessarily that they want the FAA's turn around say what you want grown pre race in Spain and they get inside base about getting them involved in the in the specific process to encourage greater racing. So asking the driver, okay, what do you feel that you lack of the moment to follow closely enough or to make to make a pass and similarly, presenting a roof suggestion to the driver because the engine is in, I guess, the technical minds that when doing the simulations I can the that's the thing is like anything like a team that comes up with we've hundreds of interational front wing design in simulation students validated on track and rule changes. The, the ideas, the simulations behind certain. Changes need to be validated in reality. Maybe driver involvement can help shortcut that process because I can say, well, actually, this is what I think it would do. In terms of my -bility behind the wheel, anyone do any harm. I mean it's extremely challenging, because obviously he's making the rules. We just took him outside of the roles you can make changes based on research. But you'll not. Benefitting from the same results that the average growing preteen has got to recite so as unintended consequences, for example thousand knowing regulations when they creates exclusion zones, way you could put Arab parts and the teams looked comp without that. And then they came out, basically with salts that would cut back in the Christchurch very well packaged, so they created marry like concise, it's always very, very difficult because you can you can set the rules to make the call to a certain things. Remove certain things, but as always many more mines and resources big trying to try to get round it. So this is a really difficult problem. And also at that the problem is complicated by those who look to the past for the solutions because that's not a halftime people looking towards apostle. Never existed that always happened. Dull Rome, praise. That doesn't mean you try and prevent them and try and make it. That's body stretch the imagination, but you can't just say, well making nineteen seventy again, everything cry. Because I was not how it was in order to make it work. They need. Have a very clear mindset of outcome as well. And then comes the difficult bit understanding what you can do to create out outcomes on solutions the solution should lead to the out, hopefully the extra time that they've had I between twenty one in the data and simulations have been able to run makes it more of a success in this or shorts interim step for the season because it's not worked has it the idea of, like this is this is a fair that so many people was just like, okay there's loads more data for the twenty nineteen changes never before member. Andre green racing point technical director saying this, but that's because no data was ever done before changes like this. So it's kind of relative, isn't it? I'll Elsa many when it comes to the nineteen changes they were always shortly. So I'm things based on dragging what they could out out of the research and actually refunds that pass to 'em. You can kind of him being slightly skeptical of because it's very, very small step. So allow free pulse on what's happened this year because he was better than nothing. It was it was no fall more. It was much more than nothing. But it was well, they could do in the time, but the twenty twenty one things are completely different head of the fish because that's a that's the acid test for this whole process. But you say that, but it was also from nNcholas Tomba's from the said that the simulations that we're getting from teams suggesting some races the nineteen changes we're going to increase over taking fifty percent and like. And like. That's nonsense. It depends. What you analyze doesn't. You know, you cannot allies Econolodge nineteen cau- bulge to nineteen wrecks, of course. But, but the, the whole thing about design prices in that. You, you don't just take an eighteen column making so nineteen car. There's a design process that you guys do. And this is the poem it always depends what you're asking teams to, to show. So, so, so do you think that the extra lead time is, is, is, is very significant in making the mistakes made again for twenty twenty one because they're not getting any way in terms of actually funnel, as the cars are going to this. This is the problem in whatever we have these major rule packages often delays, remember the new engines when she's fourteen with the light, they were originally not going to be in. They're gonna be earlier and they were they were put back. So this, this is a this is quite a quite a big problem. We're now in the middle of twenty nine nine so rarely those wrecks needed to be set by now. I'd say. It's too late daily you, I think is just to say you want a couple of years. So people know what that what they're shooting for can get it done to the end of the jets. If that's okay. But the thing that worries me is that means than are rushing towards it. And I just think it'll be old, the horse trading going on the backgrounds and things like how the cost cat works, and what's exempted non exempts it what she glide path. His all of these things that just get in the way in poisoning and lead to lead to the trade-offs that, that compromise things and. As a good chance. We're twenty twenty one guy. This is a little bit disappointing because the have been those people involved in that happened, very excited about some of the things discussed in the days and some of the directions. But how many of them will actually be put in place? How many will actually happen what it just be be held back because that's the traditional thing. This is the case for most spoils the whole everyone's always pretty conservative with these things you need to make a biggest stuck. It's a Troy and Soltys problems. And also mentioned already, if you solve the white problems that face Formula one Anais downs. So the income executives not wall people like people say is just ridiculous. You just try to be the Soviet Union by giving everyone the same. Let's not the case, but you've got the big teams that have all resources, and they keep getting results, and then they stay there. That's just that's just what happens. That's a great situation. And that's why we've got the, the least Mobil Oil paired INSERM teams moving up and down the great. That we have ever had. That's a simple. That's a simple point. You know, look, so you could see team McLaren made a brilliant. Stop last year to this year brilliant style. But the that means they're now for the constructs championship and still miles behind, and that starts basically about the maximum, they could have done with with the injury. So that says something about, and then you say, well, let's get the front of midfield. How far does it? How does it take you to get front so much Reynaud? And even if you do create an effective Costco, which is supposed to happen. You still lock in all the things that have been money's been spent on in the past all that knowledge. The off the shelf things that have in developing. The big things have got they still got so it's, it's win. When people say, what's the best way for is better for, for big teams or better for small teams to have the, the regulations earlier light. It doesn't matter. Big teams about equipped to handle the regulations being released light bigger teams will do more if they released early bigger teams big bigger teams, they do more. They have more resources they have they have all. Throw it that, that is the fundamental problem idea that somebody on one hundred million can beat someone spending four hundred million a year, so ridiculous figures. But that, that just doesn't doesn't work in less. You have as was briefy table by Mike Moses an extreme thing. To tear thing where about, you have teams stride to budget Capra cost control that then has outright rule advantages over the others. Which I don't think is a good way to go. You gotta have the common rule sets anything what the problem is that we've got into a situation where. Team seem to think that smaller teams just seem to think that budget was going to be the, the, the civil bullet like that would have been out thin or just put the onus on creativity and intelligence. It's still be a race to be competition between the small teams have the smallest deficit. That's what it obeys is not you're not gonna is a fallacy to think that in twenty twenty one the same star from the from the same point is just nonsense. And it just feels like that scaring watered down more and more and more with one, the one really good thing that came out of that meeting. A couple of weeks ago is the is that commitment to a to the headline figure of one hundred seventy five million dollar budget gap? So the idea was like I will delay the support technical staff, there is you need to agree that this is not gonna budget. And that's what everyone agreed to. So we do have that figure, and that is workable is still more quite a bit more than some of the teams are spending, and we should say, there's exemptions in that Kamakura. Mak an extra fifty million spending on just like that, and things like, as we've talked about link for various points in on your website, and in video for things like Hondas ability to go to a different part of Honduran gets jet engine expertise to help boost falling program has that come into a budget. Can you put that into a budget cap, it's, it's very, very complicated. And there's some recite forensic forensic accounting. I would be stunned, if they get anywhere near Cape in teams to the same budget reality, now it's extremely different is of outside of our expertise. How how you can monitor this financially. Some people say that she is not difficult. Other say is very, very complicated. The simple fact is teams will do what I can get away with doesn't necessarily mean ROY cheating, but grey areas that kind of thing that, that, that will that that's part of what you do agree. Or is the foundation of success full on other? Well, exactly. That's, that's very, very she saw it is. It is very, very difficult. And I think what would be interesting is, for example, I'm sure Louis will be asked about this of the circuit tomorrow. It's talking a little bit more about the things he thinks need to be changed. And I actually think the way the way I operate of the moment, they try and keep all this stuff very, very halftime. It feels like that's that main thing they told the team's not talk about this stuff not talk about what's being discussed because that's Harith getting out and Shelley. You know what let's have a little bit of public discussion on this. Let's throw out a few of the days, it doesn't mean you throw out draw rules in public every five minutes, but let's actually talk about this, and challenges, so we can say too. So there's a public debate, and you can say jobs, what you think of this, and they can say, well this she that's good. That's not so good rather than this just obsessive lot. Liberty Media's supposed to be the, the, the company gets the commercial rights knows how to market things tell people get people engaged Accenture. Well getting people engaged in the rules prices. Oh, they, it's just the usual thing. It's a closed shop. And the worst thing as it land up close shop, and then they won't be cancel for it later on because it just turns into the way the all these things work that they want to do it themselves. They won't people not question or interfere. And I'm sure they're airtight Hamilton set that to be to be quite honest, because it has put them on the spot come unless actually have because there is very, very good work going on in their no not doing the work, but what's a sensual is that work is what Roy's is to the surface and allows us to find the rules that way. Well, it's classic f water in an FAA two degrees is inability to shoot self in the foot, and not actually shouts about the good stuff. And this other paranoia of this paranoia, Aaron, and of fair of things getting out of control and feeling like you're not totally in control of the entire process feeling. Like we're gonna be you consider yourself to be needlessly criticize open to criticism. That's just not. To help the process it's just stupid as needless paranoia, and it's gonna it's gonna really hurt. The process transparency is king, and let's be honest. If you look at history, how often are you on the right side of history? If you're trying to make things pike instead of transparent, very, very true, nothing a lot would be gained from being transparent in, in this person. I there's areas where they've tried to be. But not I don't feel that committed, so it's it is showing the telling so many things not to talk about. Because actually, they'll be some really interesting stuff, five our teen with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing incomes in three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories. It fit your life with its contacts is important ability. It goes where you go to the campsite, the hiking trail the beat without weighing you down five our team, caffeine from green tea leaves. Release your natural side from the makers of five hour energy. For more information visit by our energy dot com. Try five our team. Today. Look for five our T at your local circle k store. Everyone's being negative about Formula, one right now watching the French comb pray, and we haven't had eight spectacular brilliant races this year. It's been like often the case, some decent some interesting some, some less good, but imagine if there was there was something on the ROY actually, that's okay about doing this in not yet. Really actually get some of these ideas out there, and you get some buzz and some excitement. Because right now, if you're on the outside all the fans out, I just think, well we had rules. Revelations repeatedly rules revolutions in two thousand nine the other rules revelation. Twenty four team we have one in two thousand seventeen so one in twenty nine senile yet, same old, same old. That's the problem. So actually Troy gift, people that occasionally that willing to talk about this. There's not enough and I'd like to see liberty just not being afraid of this and the. A really being committed to the to the transparency. It doesn't mean every making us to be live streamed and transcripts in minutes release on everything. Of course, know that there is a reason for some of this stuff to be kept behind closed doors. But the big picture of the, the first principles that are being discussed. That's what we're talking about here. So we can say right in twenty twenty one we wanna do this, this the mess because of this, this, this, and see what people say people say, I want you. That's a great idea. We go in that. And also you got a little bit feedback to as well. I mean you've got to be careful because social media lends itself to negative feedback on just about anything, but it we could white to test some of these things and trial things and maybe we'll get we'll get somewhere with it. Well, it's just gonna stop people need to get in their backup about it because of the money when you're constantly frozen out or something, and I suppose whereby the world most council meeting, for example, that's a moment. That's a point where the, the key various stakeholders, get together discuss things that. Impact the short and long term, the former one world championship, and all the championships come under the governance of the FAA says a huge meeting and it's not like it happens every week, whatever week what happened two weeks ago when they had this meeting of the World Council meeting came twenty four hours after this big summit to agree to delay the rules package. And what did we get from the most council at the end of Friday just as a one or two paragraph statement just said following the meat into delay regulations? The council agrees, they should we should just wait and see what happens over the next coming mum's. That's it. That's ridiculous. That's basically I, I certainly something that the totally leadership, it's, it's continuing, therefore, needs to be accountable in Nisar needs to be to attempt to be transparent. But at least tell people things are happening. Just just try and be a little bit more, because people factors motorsport isn't a normal thing. It's not for example, one of the. One of the biggest thing I deals with as is mobility weld Waddell, tonight's right site that kind of thing, it's a little stuff involved in that yet you do stuff behind closed. Doors roll out talking about safety stuff. It's true Satcher publicize, but multiple is something different. It's like a living breathing thing with them active fan base that rarely always into it really commits to UN's, ultimately without those audibles it doesn't work actually might dispose, so you do have a responsibility to them to try and have a degree of openness. It doesn't mean total transparency, but just just to try and engage. Not just have that sort of slightly Halsey while we're doing it where we've got this under control. We'll have all sorts it because history says, actually they won't. So then maybe if people could understand the process. More understand the ideas, they'll be more open to it. And then again, it's like, well, okay, mom twenty nine twenty twenty we feel as same old, and I think we still have some Greg rice in that pairs, but there's. Twenty twenty one. So to look forward saying, well, this the frustration thing is that they not even that they do. They have their meetings have their discussions. Don't do anything with the opposite. They get out. They're going out of their way to stop people getting information. And it's not like this is around desperately trying to get like a really really sexy story and trying to stitch someone up another. They do a lot of people think that all hacks are the same. It's all paparazzi style thing. But that's just nonsense. We just want to understand what's going on to a decent degree. It's the way I always whenever I've been gauged with a technical person or something like that. And I just wanted to explain an engine up day or what, how a cop part of the car works, always say, I don't need to know how you achieve in -ssarily are just need to know what you're achieving and this basic principles behind usually, the technical personnel, love explaining stuff and talking about it's public debate. And then you can kind of go, go to Janine say, well, what do you think of this proposal? To James Allison's James came on these people who have expertise and you can start opinions Donnelly, although inevitably it'll be poisoned by the politics of they work for. But for the most part, they also have missed opinions, and you'll get you'll get straight on out of out of someone. If you also on these things strikes nation, actually just as an aside, I think is a whole Formula, one varies from tainting, the Formula One's pretty bad and has got worse. Explain the technical side, and I try and high technical people. Why don't you just ask and try and stop me from asking questions of just to understand stuff, which I think is, is a real shame, actually because Formula one ole at surveys show that actually found do like that big technology of a certain gonna formula. Unlike China understand it. But it's all it's all hidden is particularly ridiculous. When you've got the fact that we all know team spot things on each other's cars, very, very quickly. They've all got photographers taking shots. They're not done, what they're hiding from office on, because all relevant rivals know about technical director, sometimes want to know each other. They notice something interesting on someone's car if I'm technical Loretta somewhere and you'll telling to another might send you the photos we've spotted it, and I know that sort of thing happens exactly. Commonplace. So this, this whole f one f I paranoid as it seeping through if one of only been full-time at one journalist for what fifteen sixteen months now and it's gotten worse in the time, the only been here, let alone, however, however long since you first set for house, go. It's still good in many ways. Which is you can still speak to the drive is an attendant involve is harder to get them on record. And you have to be a little bit more careful about it. Which I think is a is a pity. I understand it when it comes to that's a wariness about so soundbite star stuff and stuff being and they're awesome. Let's do that. But I just think it's a I think it's a real real pity, well, especially because the from an FAA, one point of view, the more they talk about it, if they let little out then they need to do a little bit. And the media can do a lot of the good work after that because what will do. Once we have we will ask people will ask the drive is also team bosses, if there's a technical Representative available, we'll ask them, then their positions will get on record and the FAA will suddenly have loans more data. If one will have loads more testimony from various different voices don't necessarily need to have all these complicated meetings, and stuff like that to get everyone in the same room because it will. That we are natural dialogue and it will spine weeks and months, and you get a proper big picture of what everyone ready thinks. So why not do that? We don't exist. The media doesn't exist as a loudspeaker at an advertising board for mold spores much as some teams in championships thing, we're not here to just Xavier. How great everybody's hits their mouth pace but at the same time we're not here to just completely stitch. Everyone up would be the enemies of people within within motor sports. There's an element of all the different factions that can work together. On the team side, go into massive massive examples, but just as just one you don't need to be genius to see how much extracts, we get two hundred for example, in the engine so than we do Ferrari, based on how much coverage we can give to Honda engine upgrades. All talk about the Honda story more than we can talk about Ferrari story long quiz, if anyone's seen just lost to grow. The weekends loan visa the Swedish broadcaster and sports Flon, which has the rise in the UK. Both of them have high brilliant. Brilliant interviews with James Allison from his eighties in the both of them were done in Canada. So there is a, you can eat that need to jeans the Mercedes doing a brilliant job. They're making someone of able to actually talk. One of the stronger ones on that. It's a sliding scale some teams are good at some things that terrible thing is to me. It's not just about the important. It's not just about the media is about the fans out there who can then just understand a bit more about about what's going on. And then the that's so everyone's. But we've massively digressed but it doesn't doesn't the father. We've just gone off on, on wellness effectively show, the benefits someone like Lewis Hamilton coming to our starting point just stunning saying, actually some things needs change. And he's used his his Khanda parrot influenced to open that door little and it will make a big talking point because he's got the chance now about sons think about it. He knows about it. He might be able to throw a few things in the he wants to go public. Don't say, well, let's talk about this. I do not what are they gonna do Banham for talking about? Of course. I know you know, he's a relevant voice, and he should be allowed to raises. Some things are covered by confidentiality. You can't have everything we're not asking for that. But there's a chance that to really bring some of this stuff to the to the surface and, and have that debate in public and the whole point about going on a massive tangent as we saw did over the course of this conversation is to, to point out, there is this fundamental problem that the F one needs to topple, then just because we have we have a new commercial rights holder, just because there's all this promise of twenty twenty one brilliance in wonder it doesn't mean anything in reality, if, if there are deep rooted problems, and that's the point Lewis was making is that it's not just what you're seeing on the race track between the drivers issue, it goes way way on that. And that goes for a lot of issues in, if one certainly in terms of the information, so I tried to be trying to explain stuff trying to understand why certain things get done. And if you can't do that in the most basic level, enough one how the hell they meant to do on the on the issue, a store near his wide ranging twenty twenty one roles but it's vital that there's wide ranging debate for the benefit of, of everyone for the drivers. So they've got a good understanding of whether or not they want to commit to one twenty twenty one drivers Lewis Hamilton and for the fans want to know whether it's worth sticking around and the fact is, is while there's so many good people who are involved in this very dedicated who are putting the work in and really do have good days and often, I get drowned out by the, by the wider problems. But there's a lot of intelligence brainpower, actually a lot of everybody. He's seems everybody's gonna gender, but for the most part laws proportion of those who are working say on the technical side of fans of the sport. Even those who aren't necessarily fans of motorsport fans of engineering that they knife words and they want to, to go well, so they want to come up with a with a good outcome. Yeah. Those working it seems. I will aways have have an oil and what benefits them they have to team bosses will do the same. And that's why actually though they bring it always has to be a degree of pincher solar at least with a degree of caution. Even the same as some Louis what he says he's a Macedo employee is affected team Representative that sad what he was talking about card from his eighties. The less change the better given that current position. So I don't think he was exactly message in even in terms of this. That was Lewis Hamilton saying what Lewis Hamilton's and that's a bad thing. But as Lewis pointed out, he's probably he's, he's hit. They won't. Let me say this. They've been the FAA because he was saying that it's the rule making process has been it's been so flawed for so long. So I, I don't know if we'll Hamid said will change anything. I don't know if the drive is being involved with signing fan, but the more the more open that process is the better. And hopefully if the drive is get involved in embracing the maybe. The way an F one will turn around Sach Lee, when we open this up to more voices is better and antipathy to their credit F one on the FAA are. Obviously looking out. That's why they've got these meetings. Whether caught the drivers involvement. That's why admittedly offer a little bit of paranoid last year choice carry now meets with the team's regular on grumpy weekends to discuss her topic. So the learning I hope that learning that communication debate is better than than stupid games of smoke and mirrors, and trying to compete people. Get inside what we don't have any comment on this, because there's no final decision is that's ludicrous, and it's for the better of is the best of f one as a hull, if everybody actually can come together in some way, I'm not do that need to be obese holding hands in a campfire together after every pre weekend when Sharon secrets and stuff like that. But just opened the debate up. Elizabeth more distribute thing is well as you might actually sometimes gets some real genuine favor. I'll give you an example when the stupid knockout qualifying system was was, I fest. Spicy being railroaded through shows. Something media, censoring, Barcelona, one of our colleagues sesame store on this. This is happening. Nobody's explained to me. I said, well, that, that work because it's going to it's gonna front low qualify. It took me about five seconds. So no brilliance involved in that anyone who sits down and thinks about that for a team minutes knew what was going to happen. So it may be a fat been announced bit earlier talked about role than being railroaded through people say, hanging them in this is what happens. That's a terrible terrible day. And that's an example of how even in recent years. Terrible idea can be adopted that could have been stopped just with five seconds of five seconds thing is the motivation behind that was the promoters, were talking about not saying enough laps from the, the big big teams at sector. It just meant we ended up with no no climax to their qualifying flying fifty qualifying segments. It was it was Tokyo Mattis. Well, let's just. The simple I put is a lot of the time when you're involved in prices like this is very easy to get bogged down in, in certain things, you end up so Tanya self in because you, you, you try something, you can run that blind alleys on mixing metaphors here is horrible. You end up with a narrow objective, a nobody nobody's in power to have the global exactly. So, so it can be really, really useful to get an external opinion from sometimes. And again, this is why is why the more open. They are the more joy, we said this lawyer times with the more. The more open, they are the more drivers will talk about it. The more team buses will talk about them all sponsors mutt. Talk about and we'll companies outside of f one month's about it as well. And that's no bad thing. It shouldn't be scared of having a little bit of a proper engagement in the narrative, instead of it being a democracy, so to speak, but. But a dictatorship in terms of the control of the, the information that just that, that is the worst both worlds. Yeah. Yeah. I think lost point of this amaze, I think being bit Maury put on this stuff and discussing Republic to me. That is a clear sign of confidence of confidence leadership. Always, it's a willingness to be challenged willingness to this. What we're doing and have people challenging, 'cause nobody's not as a monopoly on being right? You need to be able to someone challenges you on something. You, you say you need to think about and then sometimes aren't, you know, you have noticed problem you come from a different perspective. Not, that's what I want to say, whether whether we will because the frustrating thing is all the ingredients left formula. One is still a fantastic category. It really is many amazing things going on some fantastic people. It does have its problems, but it's got great people. It's got great potential and it needs not be squandered, that's, that's the million. That's what's twenty one is, is, is all about. Not writing off 2021 by any stretch of the imagination. There is still a long. Thanks dissipated, way to go, and it could well work, but it's just very hard to be confident F one has the potential to, to take a step in the right direction, A and fix things that the best thing about what the what the. Af af wanna committed doing at the moment is finally targeting all of these deep-rooted problems that have been baked in over years, decades, even an all credits of doing that. But there's no point in setting objective. If you're gonna have your head in the sand over every been challenged in insert areas, the whole point of this process, it will challenge in the status quo. And if you if you try and block people from talking about if you try and block conversation, you will ultimately that will ultimately limit the potential of what they can actually achieve, and that would represent a massive missed opportunity for what twenty twenty one could be for the history of the fallen world championship. This should be a should be a moment where the ills of the last twenty issue we say, get properly properly address in the best stuff about one guest made even better, and as a site, credit to one credit to their Pfeiffer, what they're trying to achieve, but there is a better way of going about cheating doing at the moment. And the sooner they realize it, the, the better. And when we get to. Title when we get to this new deadline, hopefully Lewis Hamilton will walk into another Maton just say while this is considerably better than when sewers six months ago. So thank you think you summed up very, very well. And they're all good people involved. Let's, let's hope that some, some good sense prevails, and we get somewhere. Well, evidently, we're on the right track. Because we haven't heard a single piece of, of horse based descent. So that's very, very positive on skulls in that regard, there is often. Also, when we go out the hotel lighter on the horse might be waiting go. 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107: Chase Carey on his role in shaping F1s future and guiding the sport through a global pandemic

F1: Beyond The Grid

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107: Chase Carey on his role in shaping F1s future and guiding the sport through a global pandemic

"Hello. Everybody I'm Tom Clocks and and welcome to a very special episode of beyond the Great Yes if you take out the PROMOS and trailers, this is the one hundredth episode of our show. We kick things off back in July eighteen with guests number one Lewis Hamilton, and here we are just over two years later celebrating art and It's a proud moment for everyone on our team and we hope you've enjoyed the shows as much as we have and who better to celebrate this historic milestone with then Formula One's biggest cheese I'm delighted to say that my guest this week is Formula One CEO and Executive Chairman Chase Carey chases being in the headlines recently following news that they'll step back at the end of the year and Stephanie Dominica Carly. The former Ferrari team principal will take over the reins of Formula One chase will continue in a non executive role, from January twenty twenty one. But now seems a good time to reflect on chases four years in charge, and in this chat, he really opens up about all of the challenges he's faced. In a previous life, he was the right hand man of media mogul Rupert Murdoch yet on January the first seventeen he became the boss of formula, one on faced a heap of challenges as he set about changing the spoilt modus operandi. Seventeen and eighteen were the foundation years. The sport then saw a surge in growth during two, thousand, nine hundred, and the graph was set for more of the same in twenty twenty. Until that is covid nineteen move the goalposts for everybody yet despite the difficulties presented by a covert world, twenty twenty s still witnessed some of the most fundamental changes. The sport has ever seen a new Concorde agreement has been signed by the parties giving more even spread of revenue new technical and financial rakes have been agreed as well, and we've even had a full calendar of racing. We, discuss it all and much more. Jason I caught up at a distance two days after the four grand, Prix, which saw Formula One returned to the nobody going for the first time in seven s we kick things off by reflecting on thousand nine hundred. It has been a tough year. Certainly challenges for everybody in the sport, but I think we do feel proud of really everybody involved the teams the FAA really everybody working together to enable us to put on a season. I think we can feel proud of that. You know really fans can engage with and keeps the sport dumb moving forward. We can't talk about the number not mention Louis Hamilton. Grown pre victories. That's quite a tally. Now look he is He's an incredible champion and we look forward to obviously in the next few weeks setting the record about his His track record speaks for itself. You know he is one of the Great Heroes of the sport he clearly go down as one of the great. Great drivers of all time and we're proud to have him in at the forefront of our sport. I'm what about these old tracks that we've been going back to like Nurburgring Majella was a number four to Iwla. Turkey, puts him out even the out circuit of Bahrain we haven't been to before you enjoying seeing Formula One going to these different tracks. I think it's great to be able to go to some of the great historic tracks of this sport that we hadn't raised him. Ajello before history really is such an important part of the sport. It is a big part of what? Makes the sports special so we have I. GUESS THERE'S A. To some degree of an opportunity that came out of the challenges of this year to take advantage of that and provided some great races. And G THINK WE'RE GONNA see some of these old tracks back on the calendar and twenty one I think in twenty, twenty one it'll probably look. A bit more like the calendar you know we planned for this year, we are a global sport I mean the reality is this year we haven't really raised globally. We've largely raced in the European zone. So you know we want to get back to making sure we race we have our races in the Americas. We have our races in Asia that we have a racist spread across the globe that is important to us as global sport, and we have some great historic tracks that are part of our calendar drastic Silverstone Monza Monaco Spa. Certainly, historic European tracks are an important part of the of the sport, but I think you'll see more balanced set of events across the globe on a twenty twenty one calendar sadly covid nineteen not going away is I mean how? How far down the Road Oh you with the twenty one calendar This point. We are pretty close up having a calendar for twenty twenty one we've got a couple issues to resolve clearly were later in the process because the issues around twenty twenty, we've really only recently resolved. So all of those things have created delays and getting it out, but we're going to plan for at twenty twenty one calendar that again looks pretty much like a normal count the callard woodland in January. What we don't really know is what will be the state of COVID next year and how we navigate through it you know we're planning. For. Events were planning to have fans were planning to have a season that I don't know that I'd say is normal but certainly gets us back to normal closer to normal on that track. Talking in October and can I get you back to March when you were giving your speech in the Melbourne Paddock on that Friday when you had to cancel the? Race we always look forward to great fans here were sorry not to have it, but it's been a very fluid situation. I think we've made the right decisions we've worked well with our partners. I think we're all disappointed to not have it but these are challenging times and I think we've made decisions we have to make. Looking back what was going through your head at the time? What were your emotion? Well, that was everything was sort of spinning realistically man I had been in that was Friday. I'd been in Vietnam on Thursday at flown overnight into Melbourne and really during the flight the world changed we had the infection, the positive test, an Alborn, but other leagues and other events started cancel in that window I think the NBA was the first in the United States. I hit the ground six am in Melbourne to really find a different world then. At existed on Thursday night when I got on a plane and the Vietnam. And so you were dealing with these issues real time. Yeah. We had fans lined up to enter the event and things were happening all around us. So we had to really quickly on the fly decide what was the right thing and I think safety. As it has been as to be priority one and. made the decision you know we did and still didn't really have clarity to certainly at that point what the impact was going to be as you went down the road to on the subsequent months, it was clear. Probably a couple of the very immediate events we're going to get canceled, but we were still planning. Potentially to have races not that far down the road, but obviously, everything changed pretty quickly and the following days. How worried we? Very concerned clearly the the financial implications. Are Significant to us and the teams but I think also the continuing to grow the sport and engage the fans I think not having a season. We think you would have really grated unique challenges and spent three years leading into this year. You know I've talked about two, thousand, seventeen and eighteen building a foundation for the future two, thousand and nineteen, some really solid growth heading into twenty twenty expected further growth and to not have the sport and plays. I think really would have been a step backwards from everything we had been trying to achieve, and certainly we've had challenges this year but I think we've been able to continue to maintain the momentum and continued up you know push sport forward. Chief had a hell of a Career News Corp and folks have you ever experienced anything like twenty twenty from a business point of view. During your career no, I mean quite simply now You know it's made within an individual entity. You've certainly, I've certainly dealt with crises and issues, but not something that really is affected everybody you know across. Across the board and across the globe you have no visibility to planning I mean you have a lot of times you have crisis in my night you live through people talk about the Oh eight, two, thousand, eight financial crisis but once it happened you sort of fairly quickly could at least start of start to plan for how do you go forward certainly there uncertainties but This situation has such unique uncertainties and unique announce around it that it is it really been truly unique. How much has it taken? It's toll on you. I. Think you. There's a wear and tear on this but you know realistically I guess I've always been one. You put your head down and go forward. You know I think it's there's aware and everybody look. We've you know we've had a very condensed calendar Triple headers. Top, each other and so I think. You know we recognize certainly recognized there's wear and tear to everybody but there's wear and tear to everybody just in their daily life in this wear and tear to those who worry about their health wear and tear to those who worry about their jobs I don't think you can start personally think about your wear and tear. I, think you know you know really their concerns. That people have across the board again whether the disease or whether it's the impact of the various measures have been put in place to deal with the disease. So I think y'all sort of have to do your best and you know recognize we all got to do our part to fight through it. The timing of you stepping back a little bit at the end of the. Why now going into this role, I was never going to sort of family stayed in the US I've lived in the UK I was going to live in the UK for the rest of my life with my family in the US. What I really wanted to do coming into it with sort of try and get Formula One on a track. That somebody could take it forward from there and next year my role is I. Look at Israeli to help Steffano and team here go forward and I think we were on that track covid obviously changed the timing to some degree. So I think in terms of planning when we looked at it, we had always. Felt. Again. What I said a minute ago two, thousand, seventeen, eighteen, build the foundation in Nineteen and twenty star. Search, achieve some of the growth I think we were on the costs of. We've put in place a lot of the things that are going to drive the future, the conquer degree, and being put in place cost-caps regulations the cars twenty, twenty two. So I think we've SORTA got lot of the building blocks mean there's still a lot to be done a lot of things to still be dealt with but I think at this point in time we sort of. Have put in place a lot of the building blocks and it's sort of a good time for somebody to take and continue to. Take it forward from there hopefully where. Sort of at least emerging out of out of the covid situation or at least the depths of it. Clearly, there are uncertainties about next year. into the issues to deal with it. So I don't think any of us are pretending or assuming covy goes away overnight but I think we've learned how to deal with it. We've learned how to deal with the depths of it and and I, think we'll be better plan better position to plan how to deal with that going through twenty twenty one. Just, listed new Concorde Agreement new regulations, all that kind of thing. What's your proudest achievement over the last four years I really don't. I, guess I really generally look forward I don't sort of look back. And have a report card like that I mean you know I guess what I? What you always WanNa feel is in anything you've you know you've done you've you've left the sport and business in a better place with a better future and I think your ultimate success is going to be in some ways. Is measured by what happens after you're gone not what you did while you were there and you know real success is. That is on a good. Business or a sport that's on a good track and continues to grow and continues to get stronger how tough was it to get? Every team to sign the Concorde Agreement this sport is a very unique beast at times. It is that sort of historically seems to have a you know divide and conquer every. You know every man for himself and in some degree you know someone that's good. You want competition breeds that you want real competition but we have tried to create a bit more of a sense of partnership. You know sort of compete on the track but have a sense of partnership about how to grow it, and so some of the old habits that existed in the old style of operations that manifested itself in the agreement created complexities. But at the end of the day and I said all along I think. The teams generally agreed with the goals we laid out. In terms of better competition, better action, healthier business underdogs having a chance to win healthier business models. In many ways the the the disagreements or the issues you know were therefore around the around the edges, not around the corners, everybody would always like more but I think we tried to make sure what we did was look at it is much right for the sport which the other day means. What's right for fans? How tricky with Mercedes I remember Toto Wolff been quite outspoken at the time of the pretty screw. NPR. PROBABLY NOT GONNA get into individual description of the discussions I. think there certain discussions that are appropriately private and? Remain private between partners so. I'll probably just leave it at that. 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As an outsider because I think we felt it needed significant changes, fresh perspectives and different perspectives I think going forward. Now what we felt was right we want somebody who can maintain the momentum and continue to build on what we think. We've put in place to grow the sport. One of the important things Steffano. Brings is a deep knowledge of not just the sport and the competition on track, but the players in the sport, and there for I, think in many ways can hit the ground running in terms of taking things forward. I think Stephanos also brings us you know A. Sort of unique personality, you know to this that if somebody that has great respect in sometimes I feel like you sit in. This role you're sitting at the eye of a storm with a lot of partners circling around and. I think he brings a balance in a in a sort of an even keeled personality to navigate through what at times can be very noisy situations so I think the combination of sort of unique expertise and experience with a personality you know that can navigate through the various dynamics that exist really make him ideally suited to those Toto Wolf says that he had a few conversations and then he said the Ferrari didn't want that true. I'm not going to get into sort of who we we talked to up we considered or at least went through a search of looking at a range. Of people across the board I'm really not going to comment on the gets actually appropriate to comment on those people in who we consider we only offer, and now I'm not offer was Steffano and we're thrilled to have him in place. So is the sport I think he's been unanimously given the vote of confidence. I can't think of anyone who doesn't think he's going to be brilliant. What's job number one for him when he? Gets here in January I. Think it's always continued his you know do to improve the sport on the track, and again it's the things we've talked about competition action, the underdog having a chance to win and making it a healthier business for the teams in it because everything is built around that I think beyond that it's also to have the in these roles is always a balance of short term and long term. So short term. You've got twenty, two, thousand, twenty, two coming with the new regulations, the new cars that's important. But obviously, if it got longer term issues like the stain ability, you GonNa Challenge is the next generation engine and I think that before a sport like us tremendously important, we continue to to build on that and create up larger long-term Vision for the sport that it'll. Nabil's us to continue to grow and really fulfill our opportunity. So I. It always starts me clearly the commercial side of the business we've got continue to grow. We've been doing a lot of things that digital space that critically important to the future energizing the television broadcast trying to energize the live events in the live event experience you know grow the sport through areas like sports, podcasts, and the light crowded sport geographically. So all those things but you know the foundation, it's all built on is a great. Sport and the track that delivers you know what fans wants and delivers it with a vision of sort of where you know not just short term but long term where the sport the track goes and what are the things that define it you mentioned TV you've had a career really in TV, haven't you I just wanted to ask you about Haiti versus free to Air G. feel the sport has got the balance right at them in. Many ways we're dealing with a TV world and is the world they came from. That is clearly changing and you know in many ways, those changes are larger than us we've got up. Play into you know those changes I mean, we love reach we want to reach as many fans as possible. And historically people have said that means free. The reality for thirty anybody over the age of thirty and probably maybe even older reach was increasingly means a digital platform. They're not watching TV screens on the wall anymore they're watching various digital platforms engaging with sports you know through those vehicles. So I think clearly free TV has an array challenges today and the digital world that's evolving. As TV, which is in many places maturing and you see these digital players becoming bigger and bigger forces on. So I think we have to be part of that media landscape and figure out how do we deal with that media landscape and not not something a lot of times people wish say which the world was frozen in the year two thousand, it's not and we've got up figure out how to we. Appeal and engage our fans in the media world. That is, you know that is clearly evolving as we go forward. It's up that we're talking about this now because the eiffel grown pre on Sunday was available in certain territories on. Youtube. Wasn't it? Yes. Yeah and I think it's a classic example of what you're talking. I mean I think it's clearly the trend will be you're going to continue to have those sorts. Digital experiences be a bigger part of our future Ozzy something like drive to survive on Netflix. A significant success for us in another way that you can engage fans in connect with fans particularly, non non traditional fans are historic TV. Partners are still critical and they still the backbone of how fans will follow live events, and so we do want to continue to work with them but again, we have to be realistic and recognized. The changes that are going on in the media space and the challenges that exist free TV pay TV and growth of digital, and how that's going to change and how viewing patterns of doing experiences are changing in the broader world. She think we'll ever get to the point where Formula One produces everything in house is, is that the goal with one TV? The goal of F ONE TV is to create or create something that is a richer deeper experience. We are sport that has data rich technology rich, and we have passionate fans out there who really want something special. So I think it's taking advantage of. Digital Technologies that led us create that experience for them mean realistically on the broader question of producing television. I mean today we do produce the broadcast. The broadcast is our our production. You know clearly our television partners bring various enhancements to it. someplace somebody like sky obviously brings a lot to it where they have a dedicated channel to Formula One. So not just you know the anchors and the shoulder programming but better ray of content that is created around it. So I think we'll always have partners that are enhancing, but the core product we'll be from us, and if you mean, are we always are we going to ultimately be delivering content directly to consumers not through some? Traditional. You know free pay digital player. I don't think that certainly in the. In. The short to medium term, I see is bad I think we'll continue to work with the various players that exist as platforms in that. in in the media space and I think something F. One TV is really more. At something on top for a fan who wants again a rich experience keep upon us. There is clearly. Platforms that are able to put together a broad range of content not just single sport. Or a more narrow. Channels I mean you look at the breadth of content that exists. whether it's on A. Pay. Platform you know or a digital platform main somebody like net flicks obviously has. Content that exists from series comedies, dramas movies, documentaries. talkshows shows. Sports related content like ours So there's a broad range that attracts a you know a wide number of fans know into it not just a single sport don't channel I think is really a more targeted adult, not the core experience for fans you mentioned drive to survive the Netflix series. Have you enjoyed it? If you enjoyed the two seasons? Yeah it's actually great I mean even though I go to every race I mean I don't actually you know there are elements of it nicer would know a number of the stories At Ten thousand feet, they've done a wonderful job of being able to sort of. Get under the covers and give you a you know a real inside you know inside look into. Certainly, you know what makes sports special you know how they embed themselves in with a team of heard some fine saying, when are they going to embed themselves with you agree on priests they can get the real behind the scenes. Look at what you? Yeah. I think it's about the sport mean I think what we are doing is making sure we provide. A platform for the sport and to me this is the teams and the driver's not the business people behind it. So you know I, think the focus should really be aware it as humor, the drivers of the biggest heroes, the teams, the teams that compete on the track, and what you're trying to really do is get an understanding an insights to the personalities. Than Dynamics that go on behind the competition on a track, can we talk about the spectacle a little bit now has Mercedes domination being good or bad for the sport I think Mercedes deserves enormous credit for their achievements and the run they've had is is a really again is a testament to the skill and talent of that team you know from. Toto and Louis Inventory all the way down credit to them. But you don't want a single team dominating ideal ever want a single team dominating in the way that Mercedes sit dominated because it makes it some degree it takes away the unpredictability. The unknown if you expect to proceeds is going to win and they do in fact, win every race that's clearly That level of predictability is not what you'd really like sports is all about drama emotion. and. Those things come out of unexpected places, and so I think you want to get to a place where you don't not full parody think actually having favorites and underdogs is actually a good thing because it makes it more special than the underdog wins but the underdog has to win in a once in a while and then I think for us. We have gotten to a place where. Not, just Mercedes at the top, and then you know really three teams the domination of three teams for competition on the track is not the balance you'd like to have. So again I don't think you ever dreamt you look to or aspired necessarily have to get the parody, but you need to have the opportunity you know for underdogs to win. Before we continue with chase a need you to listen up because today I have a new manscaping product alert manscaping just released wait for the weed whacker. It's a nose and ear hair trim and I'm not accusing you of looking like Chewbacca but if need a little bit of help in this department, the man's gaped weed. whacker is a game changer. Apparently, this knows near hair trimmer provides proprietary skin safe technology, which helps prevent next snags and all that kind of stuff in those kind of places it uses a nine thousand Rpm motor-powered three, sixty degree rotary blade system, and it's the only nose hair trimmers on the market with a powerful rechargeable. Lithium Ion battery that lasts up to ninety minutes. 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While his at Fox through the media through many sports I mean we dealt with most and? Most sports when you when they've talked about changes, the hardcore fans you know resist change, they want the sport. So. Major League baseball went ahead a designated probably. US. Sports Better Major League baseball wants a designated hitter everybody didn't like it every the NBA put in a three point line in. The hardcore didn't like it You added teams to play offs so. Just have the to League champions paying the world series. Now you know now you have this, they had sixteen teams compete in really in most of those cases not all, but I'd say in most cases. Those changes of ended up being viewed as positive in a bringing fresh energy you know bring a fresh perspective I think you have to be careful. That, you don't gimmick up the sport. You know that you are recognizing the importance, a history in the important. So what is made this special but not let that become a straight jacket that doesn't enable you to. Consider changes that may truly enhance the sport for fans. I think the decision like the specific one about you know a qualifying race. I think a group decision I mean I think we need to do anything from my perspective. We're not going to dictate that you know it's t it up talk about the pros and cons of done the appropriate homework to what in what we think again are the benefits and an issue with it and have an honest discussion with everybody and again, that's where it's important to come back to having a spirit of partnership not just look at it is good or bad for me as a team as opposed to his is a good or bad for the sport and make an intelligent you know making it. An informed judgement about you know is this decision. That that we feel. Is Respectful to the sport while maybe not part of its history but one respectful the sport but will engage and create greater astor's fans because at the end of the day that's what this is all about man you. You race you compete sports for fans. You're not doing it get him. Yes. The individuals and it get an certainly great rewards out of their success. But at the end of day, the purpose is to create. A memorable great experience for fans, and if this is something and not every fan is ever going to like it. So you're never going to get one hundred percent. So why we have to make the judgment is it something that? Again, we think on balance will improve improved the sport and I guess you don't have to do it every race I. Know I think we probably would recognize probably some things you. Know. There are some changes you will do structure I mean obviously we're we're making change the regulations and twenty twenty two that will be across the board but A change that I think you clearly can and I think to the we're talking about it. It would be a limited number raises to see how it You know see how it plays out and what are the issues and pros and But I think you always have to be and I think. We should be always challenge again without making a sound like sort of. Just throwing ideas against a wall, you know we should always be trying to push ourselves to are there ways we can make. This work more interesting and exciting. For fans and we should be constantly pushing ourselves on pushing a race like that in twenty twenty one pushing the wrong phrase. I mean I think it's sort of putting forth it as something with again the pros and cons of concept like that and get reaction. From it and we've had many ideas, many things not all of them. We bring forward to a discussion you know with the FAA and ten teams. Some of them I think we don't think probably ultimately pan out, but I think we're not I don't think. Pushing we may be putting it on the table. To me putting on the table for discussion, not to push it and see whether the teams see how the drivers on see what are the perspectives you know that come back what feedback do you get from Ross on this Ross Brawn because he strikes me as a purist well, certainly I mean, look we're. In you know in many ways is much closer and probably a much better. Much better position than me to try to look at the pros and cons I mean I I've been clear I don't you know I'm A. Fan of the sport. But I certainly don't have anywhere near the in depth expertise that somebody like Ross. Does and I think what is been great about Ross is while he certainly? Has a long history in the sport and an incredible track record That he is open to looking to it does try and look at the sport you know with fresh eyes to some degree. That's probably my role is helped push fresh perspectives. And You know I think hopefully between us you know there's a decent balance of pushing things and you know he's He's obviously want to talk about. How do you find that balance between respecting history yet not being bound by it you know he certainly knows the history in a way I don't knows teams perspectives in a way I don't but I think equally, you know recognizes the importance of continuing to improve the sport and continuing everything we can to make sport better while we're on the subject of Ross what's the biggest thing you've learned from him? I think what I learned from him you know probably the the. Insights first and foremost where know sort of the. The the challenges of dealing with the I guess I'd call it the inner circle of the sport in the dynamics amongst them, the teams and the various players in the sport because it is different than many other entities I've dealt with and certainly Ross could provide up perspective when I'm getting a team principal or somebody putting forth. An issue. Thought a proposal or what have you I guess I don't hopefully I'm not. Naive to to always believe everything I'm told but Ross certainly has a much deeper understanding of what are some of the dynamics and the like that are behind. Many of the issues that come up. In the inner circle of the sport you've been in the inner circle now for four years. Come I take you back to Singapore twenty. Sixteen. I remember you're arriving in the pattern with Bernie ECCLESTON. What what did you make of it all back then? That point. it was there wasn't really enough to even get your hands around the May. We signed the deal I think the week before we hadn't taken control some really I didn't assume. I didn't do any responsibility because we weren't allowed to until January two, thousand, seventeen and I. Knew going in that it was going to be. US arriving was going to be a bit of a circus You Know Bernie it obviously run the sport you know forever. And that any change was going to be be a complicated event that certainly had a fair amount of noise around it. I mean I knew enough about this board. So I don't think Singapore was. You know that much surprise because that's mostly what it was was at that point, you know a media. A media circus. Around it with everybody trying to find a angles to play and. And the like was that your first time in the former one pattern now, I had gone to before in the summer went to the Monaco race as when we. First to are sort of. You know with Formula One Met Bernie and Donald Mackenzie there. But that was that was the second. Second Race and I know you've said that you're not somebody likes to look back. But when you when you look. The person you are by then what was the biggest thing? You had to learn. What would you tell? Your sixty two year old self. I, think you had to learn. To learn for me because I was an outsider coming in, you had to create an understanding you know with the players that are evolved this not just the teams but the promoters, the broadcasters sponsors mean what you really. In many ways what I feel like we sit at the center of sort of this circle with. The better part of probably one hundred partners in varying roles. Obviously, some very different engagement You know some are big corporate entities, sponsors, broadcasters, summer obviously sort of the teams are off the just focused on on the sport but all those relationships, how they all exist how you deal with them, who the personalities me. That is dealing with. Personalities when you get teams in promoters I guess but in some degree, also on some of the more commercial partnerships as well. They're spread around the world. You know there's a history with all of them so it was really. Trying to understand who are the various partners you have in this large ecosystem? What is the history you know with each of them? How did they get to where they are you know at that point in time and how do you? How do you take it forward I think we sort of knew what we wanted to do. With the sport. But obviously, to make that happen, you had to understand the landscape and understand you know the players you can't just sort of. Be, a bull in a China. Shop charging into it you had to figure out. Who Do you have to deal with they going into the issues you know you had to deal with to to try to. Achieve Your goals. Ron Dennis once described the Formula One paddock as the Parana. Clump. To agree with it. I think that's a little harsh but I think it is. There is a divide and conquer and certainly to some degree. Everybody always looking to take advantage of you know the other guy and so I think there there is an element certainly of it. Then I think more than most sports you know most sports have a competitive dynamic that's what they are but I do think Formula One has an extra edge to it. In terms of how there's a constant posturing positioning. Trying to get an edge trying to get an angle, you know trying to find some white up to position yourself. As at the expense of others so I think there is. Certainly. Unique unique dynamic to the sport. The final part of our conversation with chase will continue in just a moment. But first, let me ask you a question when you use the bathroom, you will always close the door behind. You don't you. You don't want any old random passer-by looking at you do you it's private. 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And when you've worked as closely as you have with Rupert Murdoch, how does that prepare you for a spotlight? This? What is different you know about this sport is You really have to sort of I. Don't I never think of it and it of like back to go back to the Concord Agreement And distorting it sort of felt like it was Formula One against the teams in an ultimately, we wanted to get to an place was. A An agreement that we thought was fair to everybody including. Formula. One. But it wasn't sort of at the expense of the teams I. Think we it was trying to get to a because I think ultimately, our success is really going to be based on. Successful. Growth is a sport which I think requires a sense of fairness. Amongst all the players in it not taking advantage of parties, but ultimately trying to make judgments. About what is fair when I was at Fox? You know we were much more. You know trying to Fox to some degree you know competing with others, but there wasn't the same sense of sort of who the partners. That, we're tied into what you're going to achieve. Yes. You had relationships there were outside, but it was much more of A. Looking. Solely through your lands in what you controlled and I think in place we WANNA. Make sure where we look at it through both whether it's a teams perspective or promoters perspective you know that we are creating good partnerships, fair partnerships on ensure their fair to us but ultimately, they're healthy for the sport because if they're not then I, think you're GonNa create frictions intentions and I think some of that existed in the past that you've got to create a vision that everybody feels they can win I mean if you don't not grading win win scenarios, I think ultimately. You're going to be worse our for it. I think this sport in the past had a bit. Too. Much of making one plus one equals one and a half and fighting over who lost the half as opposed to making plus one three. And figuring how do you share the extra one and I think that mind requires a win win proposition that yes, there will still be they'll be tensions and frictions about how do you share that bed if you're sharing success, it's a much healthier environment. You know then sort of trying to fight over who takes the pain cost you a quick question on Rupert. Murdoch. What was he liked to work with and what did you learn from him I described is still Still on the board of Fox. So I still have the I mean I'll call it the privilege and pleasure of talking to Rupert and engaging with Rupert on both the business world as well as on a on a personal level. I think what? Rupert to me what stands out most and I joined Fox shortly after he bought Fox and. Was An individual who is able to sort of cut through the clutter see opportunities, and usually to see an opportunity, you don't find all the details. You're sort of able to cut through all the clutter and see sky here when he made the bet, you know that there was an appetite. For more choice and more quality in content and more energy and sort of belief behind his conviction with Fox. News view in the United States that there was a large segment of the US population that wasn't finding news service. You know that spoke to them. That is legitimate news service, but still spoken to them and some degree and a lot of places people. And he'd made bets when the Fox network everybody thought being a fourth network was crazy and yet what he's always three networks that had gotten old and bureaucratic, and it was an opportunity for somebody to be nimble and come in and. It makes them bets likewise in sports when we took the NFL from CBS. Fox we paid amount that again everybody probably thought was crazy and it became the backbone in four, not just the sports business but the overall television business. So I think he he had the vision to sort of see those opportunities and then third courage because usually those opportunities are very tough to take on when you're trying to build be fourth network when we launch Fox. News everybody said we have CNN we don't need another news network usually the first year two things are not working out. Things are tough and you have to have the courage year conviction. Also, the agility to make the changes you need to change but fight through the tough times to come out the other side and I think almost every one of those bets you could probably say in two years in you know would have been whatever the original plan was. It would have been worse than original plan by the time you got the third or fourth year you had turned it around, but you had the fight through the tough times and building businesses stuff was he surprised when you told him that you were taking on full. Because I had already been. Now I was going to step down from executive responsibilities at Fox and I'd stayed on reach on for a year in a transition period and Rupert Sons James and Lachlan. We're assuming responsibilities. So when I took this on, it was I was actually stepping away from my executive responsibility continuing on the board in that capacity and I think he he knew that. I've always enjoyed the sports world and I said to him in terms of what I felt that Fox I had my I guess what? I call traditional career. And all I'm old enough now amendment my late sixties. If I was going to do something and I probably wasn't going to go home for lunch every day or my wife would have a heart attack. But if I was going to do something I wanted to be different I, wanted it to be interesting and I wanted it to be something where I thought you can make a difference you could be successful because usually above all else that's what makes things enjoyable and worthwhile. is success. I mean usually hard work radio saying you having fun and it's usually. It's not fun. You know it can be rewarding because you take on challenges but what makes it rewarding is being successful. Now you're not accessible everything you do but I guess will always be successes and failures but unbalanced to be successful and I think this opportunity certainly was different certainly was interesting and we thought there was a real Opportunity Bernie deserves a lot of credit what was built over many decades but I think the five to ten years before we came in I don't think the sport had been doing the things it needed to do in today's world to continue to grow and take advantage of the opportunity did route put look at Formula One? A few years back at Fox, there was. Some engagement back in two thousand eleven twelve and there was discussions I mean I wasn't part of them because I was clear. I. Told Rupert. That I was considering this, but when liberty was buying this Fox. And Sky were also parties that were considering it, and again, I didn't want any visibility them too because you know I've been clear with Fox that I was in discussions with liberty if this went through so I, think in a couple of times or a couple of places where Fox and. I don't know what degree Fox and sky engaged with Formula One. I can't tell you how far the specifics at rounded in the more recent one when liberty was buying chase can I ask you about the fans now because I have been at racetracks where I've watched you arrive or leave at trump obviously talking last year but the fans when they see you. Chase after you, they want their cell fees with you and just tell us about the fans. The fans are great. Realistically the Real Heroes, of this sport are Louis Hamilton and. The drivers and the people that compete on the track so In some ways I always feel a little awkward because you know think all I'm trying to do is help. Provide the best platform possible for it. I'm not really doing what you know. The people with unique talent do making the sport. What is special? I'm trying to provide an opportunity fans to engage with it but I think you always wanNA appreciate them. I mean I think they're what this is all about and I think that is Sort of always challenge one whether it's. The live experience or the experience of. Sitting in their living room or the experience of a fan walking around with an iphone and trying to get an update or trying to provide a deeper look as we talked about and drive survive survivor things like that for fans to engage with the sport and what makes us special. So F- heading back to Connecticut this winter you've already said that you're not going to be the. Guy, who's going to be home for lunch every day always wife Wendy Mike, her any long-term goals what's the plan going forward? I'm too old for long-term goals and God bless the individuals and like. Barney who did this job? You know as long as he did, I, hope to remain active I. Don't again at this point, my life I don't have planned and I guess I've always felt all in what I'm doing until. I'm not doing. So I'm not even really going to try and think about it until come January you'll still going to have one hand on the Tiller we know. Is that yes. So I will continue was a non executive chairman and I really defined been clear with Stephanie and and Liberty that I think my role is to be. Helpful without being in the way I don't have an ego that means I'm going to have to. Insert myself into something. You know I think Again Stephanie O. Brings Enormous amount. anyways. He knows more about this than I do even after my four years so where I can help him, I will help him but that's what I view. My role is to help help without being a hindrance in I think we'll figure that out again I think it'll be comfortable I mean Steffano and I know each other. So we don't have to go through a process of figuring out you a comfort zone of working with chairman. I've got a call with Stefanos tonight. I catch up on things. So I'M GONNA get him hopefully provide him enough information in opportunity to get up to speed even before January first but I think steph. No, it's why such a great choice for this again comes into this with such even Keel level-headed experience respect that I think he seems very open in. To gain whatever insights he can know am whatever thoughts can, but I think equally has strong views already and I think we'll be quite proactive in taking charge. So I think we'll figure out what is being helpful mean what about other hobbies? Chase or your Yankees Fan I think we've established that played rugby. When you're at Harvard Yeah I can't claim I play rugby anymore. So This sport is not provided for many hobbies whether it's the intensity of what we've had to deal with. The challenge of getting up to speed and up sport with players I didn't know that well. It is a sport that frequently is seven days. So you can go weeks on end without you know always I feel like. Monday through Thursday job and of Friday through Sunday job, and you travel back and forth between being at a track. In dealing with the business side of the sport on Monday through Thursday. Although certainly their business sides of it at the tracks. I, would end up saying man I, play golf have few activities like like that although this job is not been good for my golf. So. So I played very little. My business activities have probably been my primary hobby I. Guess I generally usually all in in what I'm doing my wife is always said to me why don't you just keep doing it to do it at eighty percent and I guess my view is always been that's wrong I think you should be in for under percent or move on I've always been one who is sort of all in with my responsibilities what she'll go handicap can I ask Well, he's probably I'm probably not playing. Really is. It's about about fourteen but Very. Respectable. Driver well, I'm not a competitive driver. have. You ever seen on track? Yes. Not Behind the wheel. So I've been on the track I've been on track a number of times in various. They've all been two seaters high the most high speed I went on a track was happened to be in Monza when Ferrari head one of their days where individuals who own. Formula One cars and and there's a Ferrari F x X. K, prevalence. Very yes, it is a two seater and they had. ex-formula-one drivers. So it was a ex-formula-one driver. Drove, we did a few laps at not not not full speed, but probably pretty close to it was pointing out he was breaking earlier and not quite hitting top speed. But but yeah, I've had a couple of opportunities but I've never driven around when you when you've had that experience as a passenger doesn't make you you respect for that for the drivers themselves goes up. Doesn't it? Yeah I mean it's in those sort of cars around that. Mean you're you feel continually like the cars just GonNa go tumbling down down the track coming because it's it's a sensation you just wouldn't have driving. On Your streets even even empty streets. Experiences unique. But in all honesty I'd have that respect just from watching what they do in I mean in some ways I have the opportunity to gone in some places stand on a corner and a track. There was a corner in Monaco. We're all talk me through the first time I went to Monica. Athletes and there was it by the swimming pool. So I don't remember there's this sort of almost s turn that they come down from the tunnel down that long straight, and then there's sort of like an Ester and so two turns and they have to be doing blind because you're going too fast even in A. Either see what to see what's coming. So you have to be doing purely off instinct that speed. They do speaks for itself and all you do is watch it chase. Thank you so much for your time. It's been great to tap for Chevy. Well, tone. Well, we better watch out for chase on the seniors golf tour. But as he says, he still very much going to be involved in the sport going forward and I think his steady hand will be welcomed by all parties. But what a great chat chases perspective as a relative newcomer, Formula One is a fascinating one and the changes made reflect that he doesn't claim to know a Hebrew out the history of the sport but he knows a lot about what makes a good business in sports and there's no doubt he's leaving former one in better place than he founded the Piranha Club it appears not to be chase many. Thanks for your time. It was great to catch up. Well. That's almost it for another week before we go, let's dive into that virtual mailbag to see what you've been saying about last week's show with Sebastian vessel lots of you got in touch and I've chosen four messages to read out I this one from Ash Miller. This week's podcast just cemented to me how incredibly insightful, introspective, likeable and Wise Sebastian Bradley's and has become his humility openly honest self analysis. And transparent love of his sport is beautifully infectious and how about this one from psych BSA it was the first time I was listening to this podcast, but I couldn't take no being your guest. How normal down to Earth can somebody be who's won the world? Drivers Championship four times and earned a lot of money while driving an f one car wish he would have spoken way more to you. Thank you. And this one from Michael Conroy, a lovely conversation I found myself not as keenly watching former one during the years said dominated but he comes across as a really likeable and thought provoking character hobie stays in f one for a while longer gets back to the top of the podium. And finally I love this one from Robie Harry one-two-three says look I don't know if it'll ever happen. But as a student of physics, I always wanted to get into Formula One in some capacity. But after listening to Zach last week and said this week, they just seem like to normal people that did it. Why can't that be me? Well, Robbie can be you. Go for it. But thanks to all of you who got in touch soya can read out more messages but I'd be here for a week if I tried to and remember, I'm at Tom Clarkson F one on twitter or you can use the Hashtag F one B on the Great. Thanks for listening beyond the grid is produced by F one in association with Audio Boo. Until next time, keep it flat out.

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50: Jean Todt: Ive been blessed to enjoy success in an world that has always fascinated me. But now I want to give back

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50: Jean Todt: Ive been blessed to enjoy success in an world that has always fascinated me. But now I want to give back

"I'm Brian Todd and I'm pleased to know that you are listening. Beings read. Hello Everyone Tom Clarkson here and welcome to your favorite podcast. It's is beyond the grid presented by Bows Quiet Comfort thirty five to wireless headphones my guest this week is one of motor sports high achievers in a career spanning fifty years. He's one pretty much everything from rallying to the Paradox Tullamore and the Formula One world championship and if that wasn't enough he's currently in his third term is president of the F._A._A.. And in the throes of working on F one's twenty twenty one rules among other things. I'm talking of course about Sean. Don't talk to F one fans. John is most famous for leading Ferrari to multiple F.. One world titles in the two thousands and as mighty as domination was and don't forget that shoe acas driver's title in two thousand was Ferraris first since Nineteen seventy-nine nine. You need to remember that totes achievements extend far beyond Marinella he was a successful rally co-driver before taking the rains at pershing and dominating all forms of rallying and the World Sportscar Championship. John is an intense character. He's a self-confessed workaholic who doesn't take holidays and only looks forward so it was interesting and surprising to sit down with him for an hour Silverstein recently with cars buzzing in the background and to ask him to reflect after all. This is a man who rarely has an hour despair. Hope you enjoy our conversation. Is your welcome to be on the Great. It's fantastic to have you on the show. I'd like to start by taking you back to nineteen ninety-three. You've just started at Ferrari. What state was the team in? When you arrived left the first of July nineteen ninety-three I mean it was not the easiest situation but I was? I was prepared to that because before accepting the challenge of course I was inform I would think the where what was the level of the the challenge. Remember telling me you will not be able to resist more than half year two years and it's knowing that the challenge going to be tough that maybe give me extra motivation to to face it and when arrive then you know I I tried to make myself I own opinion. Doing that is so situation. Under you know like Dr Use your patient doc and you try to then they find the right to prescriptions okay. Why did you accept the job? If we go back a little bit of you'd had lots of success with Persia show. You just finished one two three at Lamar. Why did you need Ferrari me because you know I whenever that puzzle incident older and make provision carrier but I already take example of climbing the mountain so I thought the ready driver then no one to due to run a rally team which was very successful than we went to cross country which were very successful than sports car which were very successful and then I thought okay I did my time? I'm with much erasing. I want to do something else integral and did not happen like that. Because I mean the management to time so that yeah I was important to run D'Amato spot activities and that way and that one that my my way of seeing things had entered Formula One with his own team. Would you have stayed so part of the agreement is always a puzzle. I I thought it would have been good move for Perot too good to Formula One but nevertheless my decision was to do some sense and maybe the paradox because I went to Ferrari to run from one but simply because Ferrari was special to me you know Ferrari the high cone of Geeta hike on of a motorist thing and I would never expecting to <music> get this challenge offer to me and that's why I loved it and I thought that I mean bringing Ferrari I do uh highest level of success in one will be especially achievement nursing compare by competing with a company late guru in Formula Camila one. How intimidating was it when you first turned up in Maranello? Could you speak Italian at the time no in fact I mean my I I must say all my discussion with the time we look at Monticello Timo did not happen at Ferrari headquartered because people will have reconized us and we wanted to keep it secret but my in fact <hes> my first official contact with Ferrari on the fourth of July whether going to Grand Prix which was incident Peter Friend Drumcree in Mexico so I I attended two Grand Prix team principal and then on a Monday after the Grand Prix. I arrived in Maranello where I discovered my office. Go how amazing well. Let's talk drivers you had to lay seen burger at the time was clear so you that you needed a change on that front. No you know I go back to what they were mentioning earlier I wanted to do I'm that is a situation to understand the situation and enter time. Hey you know it was not again of unified. Analyze of the situation chassis people were saying that the engine which were not working engine was seeing that it was a chassis then everybody was seeing but we don't have the proper drivers so it just tuna sleet with the mess and so I considered at the time that the we had a driver who you will not be able to be discussed on in fact at a time the driver was indie situation with Aetna unfortunatey at Sinai in Ninety ninety-four decided to go to William because we couldn't offer him a drive in ninety four and these tragic accident he Maura and that was the when the Michael started I mean to to image and he became a champion ninety four then we discussed with him in ninety five and <hes> in August end of July early-august to ninety five e signed for Ferrari in ninety-six these Bermuda of adding one driver which could not be discussed whether achieved so that was the first thing to do is to take the driver out of the questioning and then from that you could then work on the technical side was that you'll thinking I mean so you know we were we needed to relive racing but clearly the paramount of driver to address and by taking Michael Eight addressed but still we had to to rebuild a department to to create a proper facility at the time the department whether in newgate you know which for me with the something one thing we have not hot all what was needed. We need to have everybody under the same roof and Ibarra the time Ferrari with the only team producing chassis and engine so I wanted everybody under the simmer to Sim roof and clearly we need to also to prepare engine. What did Jon Bon say to you? When you said Guilford unfit in the U._k.? Is Not working. Did you invite him to Maranello. Was it clear that you needed summary of course you know where the discussions the discussion but for him it with the <music> out of of sorts you to commend and spend a life in Maranello we I mean it was something which would not new because I mean he had to contact a nickel operated with Suri for many years before he lives and came back and I think he youngest studer maybe when the happy about the decision to this decision but anyway the decision which can be changed so was Michael's Michael Schumacher's impact on tame immediate. I mean you know disciplined because we knew that he went the Grid River very efficient very organized very pragmatic and we knew do that. He will not tolerate <hes> being team with images so we immediately to demonstrate that <hes> Ferrari with the very professional and organize and structure Tim was there one thing that stood out about him. I mean yes brilliant driver but outside of the car. Why was he viansa outside of the come because you know Michael with with very curious very visible to participate to the development of the team very very in gate under the I interested Eakin into Ferrari because he wanted to be a German witchery so he had to to give very strong contribution but I mean a quickly? He understood that we were Huando on on the right track. Was it a difficult sell to him. I mean you couldn't guarantee that. He was going to win a world championship in year one could you what was the plan when he arrived. Did you have a three year plan a five year plan. I mean anyway I mean he e arriving in ninety six on his done remember but I think it was three contract and the Enu that we were in a can of rebuilding yeah <hes> phase of the team he knew that he knew at contact with some of people in new well and I mean I do contact with rose run on and with Rory Byrne incidentally they did not know individually that <hes> I do contact with one of them and I remember when after I signed <hes> Harass and Rory I suggested that <hes> this should be aware of it and <hes> I invited to go for a drink and to celebrate that they will be coming together to work at Ferrari but they didn't know what order that. You're going to work together. How amazing how much more difficult is it to hire people for Ferrari because it's in England? It's not literally when I get my geography sorted out. Is it much harder to lure people because it's such an Anglo centric sport. Isn't it yeah at the time I multi people will always scared to come tweet elite because I mean family issues and so that it was going to be very political team very difficult to to adapt himself <hes> initally so they were. We are not all I mean a keen to take a challenge but <hes> I mean that was part of the seeing to convince them. You mentioned the word politics. How political tickle was Ferrari back then? Honestly I mean I never suffered ready about pretty eyed Ferrari. It was a till you a team of attention around because what mentioning earlier Ferrari being a can of legendary organization innovation I mean he tried to two big attention from the outside so and big attention and big expectation and that's part of the game so its newest something which really worried me was persia quite a good school for you prior prior to going to Ferrari in a way they quite similar beasts Persian Ferrari the sporting side. I the carrier has been a good school. You know I I went to university which was a can of the appetizer. Then righty could rive. Oh where I did a ready with a lot of drivers with a lot of teams and into my role was being only a driver. Remember being also appointed as the reprentative of the driver in the F._A._A.. That was the first contact with me and if I say so longtime ago we're talking to forty years ago about and and they did prepare me to my next stage. We had to become a team director of of a rally team. Though what mentioning earlier climbing the Montaigne was for me again of Learning Process I still learn everyday today. You know which is probably ways of fashion because Castillo carriers of making things bitter in a different surrounding different challenges so on that. It's something I always android your. What did you feel the pressure share of representing a nation representing Italy? Did you personally feel that you're not ready for these specific. Point it with an advantage being a foreigner because I was only focused focus of achieving what we needed to achieve for the final result but unfortunately took a lot of time you know and remember. A couple of days ago I was in London to Caesar Komi of the movie heroes and I mean you see in ninety seven ten minutes Michael Loser driver title ninety-eight last race ninety-nine last race this time was Eddie Irvine and fortunately we got the manufacturer's championship until a change in two thousand two thousand tops in the beginning of the the-then we were not federate and finally sings D- moved but we put so much fought what for that how frustrating were those years. You've just described ninety seven ninety eight nine thousand nine. Did you ever stop believing unit settled before because the hygiene fury we've mentioned earlier Fourth of July twenty three so ninety four with a beggar we wouldn't agree. I think the German Grumpy ninety-five Regina Z.. We wouldn't one grumpy which was in Canada ninety-six Michael Join we want three grump rates and the expectation was image at this time so we're to to seeks to pass ninety seven ninety eight nine thousand nine hundred we could we could achieve something so it was amazing pressure and I must say here we created very strong security. You know all together to resist together and probably that Creator unique links which are sitting this thing now. Was it difficult to keep the motivation of the team up when you were going through those difficult times no motivation with with their motivation was all the way there and I must say and always been there even once we had success so we were determine you know like to war machine ambitious and and I mean to achieve the results and to keep the result now let you mentioned Herath ninety-seven such huge moment in that season but is also one of the most memorable moments in Morton formula the one history that collision between Michael and Jacques Villeneuve. How surprised were you that Michael did that that he turned in on this show price you know it's spot uh-huh easterly of motor sport you ever whether examples which have been much worse than with Michael and we love me? If you remember percents in two years in a row you know so I mean that's that about the controversy in muddle sport in Formula One and so I don't think I always good uh but it's part of this story and we still sealskin of things. Did you ever try and sit down with Michael and understand why he did that. It'd be a abby protection. He wanted to protect his position. He didn't protect it well because if he will have predicted it well it will work did not work though heavily punished the team was punished and but said to him about that twenty two year the after it has a created unique links. We've asked because we we kept together. No nobody escaped you know was it just he just had this incredible desire to win that he would do anything. Is that how you explain it in your mind but you know anything you know again you you must accept the pressure you must accept the changes. The driver half facing together geds Arizona to to get what they are dreaming of so damned the way to to achieve eat not rational but you don't don't you don't realize in the heat of the moment. Do you do things that if you think carefully you will not do Joe. What was it like being Michael Schumaker when he was racing for Ferrari? Can you just give us a glimpse into what it was like being him when he was racing for you. In terms of the pressure he was on the the adulation he went through. Was it difficult to keep his feet on the ground. No Michael Michael always been with feet underground which for ably we help him to be successful over the years because Michael or with doubt about east capacity of winning with if I'm GonNa go he doubted himself you know every year before out of the anyone asking me privatization infielder no to make sure that he was good driver every season that's every year uh but I suppose what and he kept improving and learning because of that doubt I think it always been anxious. I need something we have been sharing anxious to be good enough and what made him so good because the he was able to to put himself integration. Can you just shed at some light now. On Suzuka two thousand after the disappointment of ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine you guys finally get the job done. Tremendous tremendous race that one is well wasn't as it just taken in isolation but just was it relief was it joy relieved and was that the overriding well when they took <hes> Michael to the podium I mean climbing the Middle East has to go to the podium. I told you Michael our life professional life. We'll never be the same because we we achieved what we wanted to achieve and clearly that whether something very very special for everybody because could reward of so much pain too much effort to make sure difficult times and <hes> that that was finally getting the foot of it and then of course once you start winning you don't stop what was it like to ride that crest of a wave when you guys were just dominating Formula One. I mean you know we first tweet something we completely realized and we were focused. You know we are so focused to the success that were concentrating on each single detail as if we would never have one or the Grand Prix toward the Radi full focus to make things to make things well and so when you a winning the title was it Mag Nico I think in two thousand four that was bonkers. You didn't even let yourself relax after that no and then we won the manufacturer's championship a couple of race after in in Budapest and remember <hes> being a under greediness in Monza I know with Anxious Lake Hell about outcomes and then I speak to myself and I bet you already what champion so. What do you care about but you know it was I would mentioning a twenty nine gene just being competitive under neutralizing what we had achieved before so when you look back at your time Ferrari what makes you proudest to have resisted lasted more than a year and a half or going back to the Annan told me you cannot resist nice to two years and finally I decided to thought I want to live in a twenty four and long discussion with get you to digital was chairman and <hes> let me go on the me to become Decio of the company which would difficult for me to refuse? Can I tell us why. Did you want to leave because I thought the idea might dime. I did what they would committed to do. Who at the bus of the team under that what the ready for new chapter in fact <hes> you will find me something with not expecting again being the C._E._o.? Of Ferrari and I mean everybody you want me to stay so I would not brave enough to decide deliver until identity in fact twenty await. I left my position and <hes> I remember Hendro one year kind of consultant. I mean to prepare him the next steps and an left in April nine ten years now. How how different was the job when you a C._E._O.? Ferrari compared to just the Scuderi I mean no I mean of course they you know I do overview on a the Nida sheep of the one one company but of course but still with refocus on what what happening under spotting side I appointed CIFRA Dominican to take a petition of Tim Principal Stiller Monitoring Daily debase the racing division and of growth <hes> <hes> however each of the production side of the G._T.. Jiechi side but not something which was completely <hes> pity new for me because I went into both of Ferrari Censor aradio future so I may I was very interested in about two to development of the water organization so for me when it really different life for me and you'll skills as a manager a lot of people I talked to about you would walk over hot coals for you. Why do you think that is why you have this connection with the people that work fee? I must say that these I mean that sometime very emotional me because I left I left to puzzle in ninety-three searches of June so she's Jordan and thoughts now twenty six years until I see the people in the remind me the the time we've been spending together and same with a Ferrari I mean simply I think because we have been webbing sharing a meeting time than probably I mean I always try to give a lot of myself to the team to the people they give a lot in return to me and the eight created a a good communication so probably I mean combination. I mean will will remain or has remained more from John in just a moment but I this F.. One takes me around the world throughout the and it's important that I stay informed about what's happening. 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Let's get back to show you mentioned again. You your time with pleasure. I'm going to ask you was rallying is rallying. You'll I love no. No I quit do fixer you know under each Egypt of my life and I'm blessed for that. I've been a loved one. Though you know I mean a being being passionate about the boat Gal death when chapter being a ready could river whether another chapter pujol ready and other one cross country spoke out Ferrari great now I fi- United Nations again you know feed blessed to be able to had see lava responsibility complexities well. I love to sink. I can make a contribution. Is it true that you used to not quite sure what the right word is the east to borrow. You'll mom and dad's mini Cooper a young yeah. I mean my father. My father was a very weak with me and even if he tablet of means but he was always willing to to plead me and I didn't think I shouldn't have done but maybe I learned out of that. Will you a good joined I I went to maybe it'd be too wild driver but I was quite quake but <hes> I I mean for many years with considering that I would be successful grabber until I change. I changed my my target ambitions and that <music> sometime you know important choices which <hes> which he gives you a different life. I don't know how it will have been but I must say the choices a year. I'm happy I did him naive one in pretty much every motor sport discipline possible the rallying the Paradox l'amour Formula One how those compare from your vantage each point from my just for you with your dealings with each of those categories. How did they compare which was suppose? which was the hardest to win? I mean the I'll definitely with Ferrari you know because I wanted a foreigner. I was Farina involving new category in Motorsport. Were I'd no experience so under a twelve the <unk> difficult environment that what the the mud difficult challenge island but probably the most rewarding challenge I had to face and when you were a rally co-driver I mean what was it like sitting next to the key frequence and Hannah Mikulas must've scary every other for now I mean I I mean I am. I already set next to proficient driver with with an issue in sixty six fifty years grew with Gisha where the provincial driver and I must say I had to be expectation. I thought I wouldn't understand what he'd happening. Understood you know so I mean to admit to Canova Askari carry discovery and the the time I didn't understand what was happening. We love zeroed so for me. I must say with most spectacular secular outside than inside other guy but <hes> whether you know some of some great memories and the sometime when I think of those memories I I mean some nostalgie which we I mean it which is a good treating. I'm what about the group B.. Rally Kraus's of of the mid eighties they were complete monsters what they do your memories of them. No they were but I mean I you know that was a great adventure because I mean the decision to go into rallying with special with a group EKA and to face competitors like our body like launch our the very difficult decisions and finally it became very successful decisions because the way became the dominator in in rallying until I mean it considered to be to dentures and get the gory with band and do we we moved to cross country which is another kind of adventure. Is there a great story that one if you cons was stolen Dow dot com you're about to win your fourth consecutive dot com which we won. We won with the other one with the other one that was what can you just tell us what happened. I mean you know that studios story unfortunately where we don't know whether behind that but <hes> I mean arriving no I wasn't in my room in in Bamako under the I'd be seventies to part of the night under either every morning. I was expecting a phone call to go to to the south of the of the day and I got to phone could be earlier than usual <hes> and in our responsibility told me I re- Sky I did appear so what does the boss site of that. I I thought it was a joke until I go to phone. Call from people asking me money. We wanted to get back the cow so then I took that say ously and when the onto the reception and they realized that the car the F._B._i.. So of course we tried to find the cow but unfortunately we didn't try need until eleven o'clock in the morning. Stop weather about seven o'clock in the morning and when we found the I mean thirty kilometers from the from the city to the start last show yet to Hovis <unk> hundred fifty card Laurie I know that would rather disaster and until we we got to told that you were going to be disqualified because he did not start in due dime so we tried to challenge decision for three or four days until we realized that we lost to Z.. Say Challenge and fortunately you're Kankkunen. One one is already but it's I mean amazing story amazing story amazing sort of speculation behind and as you I mean for speculation but that that means a story crikey can ask you about the dangers in Motorsport for instance the groupie rallying the cause was so fast and the crowds that you had by then. Did you have a struggle to justify motor SPO- in your mind minds with all those dangers and the potatoes Motorsport other we'd been dangerous sport fortunately over the last decades we have improve lot safety in motorsport which still remained dangerous but clearly sooty forty ago minimal danger than it is now and we will will blessed to be in such a nevertheless everyday. We need to try to make motoracing safer and what I I keep thinking moderating not on your show by better also has to be a laboratory laboratory to be able to implement some of these safety a normal road kath and went probably one of the reason of thirty two action. We got so many experiences sometime very strong sudden expanded Fantus at the I want to contributed to make roads safer now the Rhonda Word so in your career now only tavener. I know he wasn't driving for you but then the accident the Felipe Massa had for example in Hungary two thousand nine I was is yours. If you've ever going to happen with Philippine no three into into our nine. I I let Ferrari I would not much remember when it happened. I mean I will in fact. I was in a country house with <hes> might team preparing Mike Campaign at Brennan today I do. We Watch on T._V.. And my son was easy. Majo- of Philippi immediately I spoke with him on the phone and I realized that will stay within the next day with Michael. We flew to see me deals between good oppressed. I think whether terrible time how did that affect you in the longer term in terms of what you wanted to then achieve. You'll presidency that if I ate fade I knew an I know that motorsport is injury so we we need to try to do the outmost to make it <hes> Sipa uh but I mean hurting Philippi fifty paid like a second son for me so it was it was very bad but foot cynically you know that's why them you know when we speak about the <HES> I mean he's fatal to become a what champion in twenty eight I mean. He's very little compared to our bless. E was to be able to escape tape from the terrible accident. I mean I mean can you imagine getting when took up sober from the cow in front of you on your end up without even competing for a lab time which she something amazing. You know you have that why sometime in your life you have sings which are completely unexpected. You are talking about the cow which was a stolen we toward not the physical thing but each something eating absolutely unique <hes> having such a an accident where fortunately today simply a bad memory that <hes> I mean that's interesting experiences while we're talking about drivers and I think your office has got pitches of Jim Clark on the wall and I'm Jack Brabham as well. Am I right no only Jim Grau no religion yeah but within you because each of my life is a chapter and the gym club foot toy the chapter of my passion for Motorsport so and for me you whether kind of my my model in mortal spot when we're talking about a driver for which I mean I especial- respect consideration with Jim. What was it about Jim? You know I mean everything what he was successful. He seemed to be very nice. Pathan I love the could've his head met. You know let obscene sometime. You cannot explain but he with any suspicion for me. It makes me ask. Where did your passion for motor? Sport come from because Jimi would have been killed when you're in your early twenties. What was your first exposure to modus but what made you go and or your Dad's mini Cooper? Where did that come? Honestly it's not natural remain gene nothing to do with my family I mean my father was a doctor. He had no interest it for the Gulf and I thought it to dream in front of of beautifully and in front of risky and I've seen grim. Did you ever think of pursuing medicine as a career at what my father was hoping but myself never I mean I I thought my father I mean what working so hard I would not prepared to do what he did the match braver than me. You Hook you up incredibly long hours but while we're talking about brain power I I've been told that you've got an exceptional mathematical brain. Is that true I I'm some Fethi Defoe counting through now. I've got excuse the noise if I was to put seven numbers in front of you. How quickly would you be able to tell me they add up to g think no try? This is an experiment longtime. I didn't do that. Can we try okay. Let's write his seven numbers. I'm just putting them down in front of you. Now total so sixteen eighteen that's incredible that is so folks at home. Oh just is put as as a seven numbers one thousand twenty three plus four hundred fifty six etc and you're absolutely right with that so if I was to say to you don't do you know to how many decimal places can you remember. The value of Pie can what pie the fixed number us for working out the circumference. Do you have any decimal because a lot of people say oh it's three point one four but some people can go three point one four and list a whole load of numbers can you you that's great quality trick Sean Sa- great teacher how useful to I suppose on the pit bull but joy. You say you're at your career is is one of different stages. We must talk about the F._A._A.. Now you wanted to begin with me by intimidates playing any backgammon something yeah you play. I'm unfortunately I would love to but and opportunity on time but how different is you'll role as president of the F._A._A.. To everything you've done before me clearly two different role for I would say sometime. You wonder why you do some things so when I was a running teams I could say I do that because I want to win and I want to be one paid and being president of the F._A._A.. Is Very difficult to assess the result of what you do and you do that AH volunteer so oh probably tonsure to some of your questions and I go back to you know you arriving different chapter of your life and you think have been so blessed to enjoy some success in a word which by the way the fascination for you which still is you approach differently and you want to give something back so I really Felim now in this <hes> out of my life where <hes> I want to do the credit I've been able to obtain over the of the decayed and to give it back to sport to make road Sifford Rhonda word to I mean to be able to create more <unk> Hyundai me so I'm Marie Attracted Bay orders challenges and being president of the F._A._A.. Being the U._N.. scretary-general special envoy foodsafety give me the platform to do it. You'll midway through your final ton so there's still motor. Do what achievements are you must proud of. You know I wouldn't use the word a proud of because the life you know you shouldn't be proud of anything but probably have different interest now in my life what seeing earlier I feel so breast compared to so many other people you know and I think you must try to give the hand to people. Don't have those facilities awesome time well he'll. He looks awesome Damu living in poverty when I think of those seventy million of refugees around the word and all that to you I mean you want to do something you want to do something because you feel it's unfair to of those people into tragic situation and again we are so blessed to be leaving a little controversies. Ah that's different about the life. Do you think with all your experience and I suppose with ages well. You've developed a sense Nisa perspective that helps you and you'll rollers president. I mean definitely will whatever I've learned. He's helping metoo. Oh sings to different thing to achieve different things to have different interest. You know and I have run of scenes where. I can be can be no contributor to that. My new challenges faced challenges. Cou could driver the team director as a C._E._O.. You and a different challenges you know I found it was a group of Friends Medical Institute which is Brian Spinal Institute where we have people working on research for Brennan Spinal Cord Road will now number two injured starting that lead and ten years ago we were talking about other responsibility some other interest so you know what I'm blessed at my age to be able to the passion to up to Hanson I must enjoy as long as it will last me how interesting that medicine did come and get you eventually that is sometime. I mean you you can sing of your road but I'm in my life is required very often shoe vote of medicine doctors. You know so I mean I been my childhood next to my father weather doctor and my professional carrier. I've been very often also along along with doctors to face imagine cases now. You say you develop developing these other interests but looking from the outside in you seem to always work doc. Are you a workaholic. We're CALC leak workaholic really the whole time. I mean you know how threatened I tell you buy Nedim Lizzy but but I'm committed fake commit to do something I will do. It and I'm very committed. It's go above my laziness but <hes> I mean if I had no commitment. I'm sure it will be able to very little title for the next chapter. Keep that another chapter did just want to quickly ask you about was from a Formula One perspective. I think one of your legacies is you've developed this much much closer partnership with former one and you're now working with Ross Ross Brawn of course who was one of your architects of the success of Ferrari. How different print is the relationship with Ross now compared to when you were batting for the same side so I mean I first of all I mean add great relationship with Benny Way you must have good memory if I went into Formula One because it was supported by Bennie at the beginning I remember Benny with the one to give my name to Montezemolo and to <hes> I nearly family by things these guy you should consider and when I was telling my Richmond's we is at zero directly to Benny when I became president of the F._A._A.? Of the changes and we had some damn some some tension some disagreement but we'll see friends so oh of course then when a chase arrived with these new team it whether learning process between very well and that you say I I knew of very wella Ross will whether you're became a friend and <hes> it's offensively Ditto on daily basis things that <hes> do too. I mean the way I'll stretch out organization working do deal much more dabezies with Jase and then my people are dealing with the Russ always <unk> wretches but that will say seem school very smooth away because a very often I mean we have to Sim us. If we don't have the same us we do agree of what should be the best for for from one so that makes working relationship very blatant in very constructive you mentioned Bernie how much of a supporter of Ferrari was Bernie when he was in in charge. No I mean you know once. Once I was in charge. You never support you know it's he doing. Its Job I would doing my job will working closely together but fortunately I never had to ask him anything. Did you ever play backgammon within Amethi still need to learn a lot Uh with a look at twenty twenty one. How are you that Formula One the F._A._A.? In the teams will get it right with the with the regulations I mean we everybody will put uh out. Most you know to to achieve what we want to you but I'm confident you know it's very complex situation very complex because it's too easy but <hes> I'm. I'm a confident that over the next three months we'll be able to talk to my the you know the to a great future for Minoan and if there's one thing you would like those regulations is to achieve what is it closer racing. Is it of you will never raciest more unpredictable. You know under Marco more more fight for the for the wooden. It's unfortunately it's in this sense of moderating of Formula One even under support you know you can see not of categories categories of sport for years. He has the same people who are on top of it so clearly grudge competition clothes racing and good racing. Do you think it's bad for any sport. When one person dominates I mean you've been there with Ferrari but other sports you know when you are in this privileged position you enjoy it? You think think Formula One suffers as a whole when you were dominating with I mean people complain but you know that that human nature people will always complain in also at the end of the day you must straight to do what you feel is a good for this gold knowing that people will complain but at least you must be convened that you make the right decisions and and then things will go the way they she'll go there and just one final question on the here and now the stewards talk if decisions they've been in the news a bit they see. Are we lightly to see any change enj- in the stewarding of Formula One g think permanent Stewart's would be announced so what what are your thoughts on that. You know what whatever I do you will New Mexico so what is very important is to have the most proficient people. I think we're very good. See what's the driver. Contribution is very important. Maybe we need to define more what he's leads them rates you know because again the race is very difficult interpretation irritation. We need to address also schick design which is a big factor too. I mean to for the drivers to to drive for the sewers to interpret I will say again. That's is complex program which we need to address but I'm optimistic that we eyeball to read it properly but <hes> steeler controversy is part of the business did upset you that the stewards in Canada for example a lot of criticism from the outside world. You know you you take in motor racing so Formula One but you take in football. You take whatever sport you will always have a complaint. You know that likes Turin Cow. I mean that that's part of these well thirty months to go until this final time is president comes to an end. Have you stopped to think about what comes next. I you know I mean it's a read it to too. Many many thing I two heads you don't know <music> then to what would we might passion. What remember to issue? Maybe in chapter maybe my motivation is finally to go and use some of the cow in front of which dreaming when I was a teenager we have in the garage. Maybe a steeler doing things for other than in other comp of activities so I mean I we have a I'm sure of opportunities to to keep me busy. If I want to be busy and at the moment you know for me each day put soon maximum. You fought in what I mean dedicated to do. I've been chosen to do and I'm not. I'm not yet sinking Surti as in front of me thirty thirty Monte in front of me but are you. You've been on the REV limited for forty years now. You haven't stopped no more than that you as you know I started to may carry the sixty six so fifty three the U._S.. Gone but do you envisage a time where you will actually relax a little in this. You say maybe take maybe my Netra difficult to relax again. You know I don't know time we'll and tempting show which decided I will I will publishable but not too you know book with a lot of photos can of artistique book and it will take some time to do that can't wait to read it but what about your legacy then when people in years to come reflect on you and your impact on the world of motor sport what you think he people will decide what he's made E._S._e.. And we do them people the that were meeting memories. Maybe beat them other people. They don't have so good may memory so I mean to democracy people can sing what they want right so my final questions to you this. Who was the best driver UH rallying former one l'amour best driver you ever were with? I mean I hate these questions of best because in fifty three of the root of things but clearly I mean to the driver which is a closer to my heart is Michael because I mean we have built so many things together and it had been so difficult to do it and <hes> how do you I mean a micro lead become a close friend and we know that I mean how were five year the yet been in a difficult situation so of course the closer Komo closer to my heart than anybody else best car race rally dot com. I mean base cab probably do you know each player the bed scout mandatory. If I were the meeting the nine or fine weather meeting the Ferrari with amazing. I must say again you know I've I've been part of a meeting meeting teamed named with meeting Garth. I don't take it would be fair to say on new one but each each chapter there have been some particular timing in struggling and in success his best race. Oh Rally I mean you know in rallying in when I was running puzzle maybe that the <music> southern <hes> lakes <hes> in a eighty four eighty five. I Freddie win because I was wondering if one day we win ready and it was the first Fantozzi at least we will win when ready and that with other lakes and in from what I one clearly Suzuka two thousand that was the best success and in which chapter of your life. Do you think you've been happy. I've been happiest. I've never been happy already. You know I'm all with anxious so I don't really know what he the happn Ethel you know for. Oh issue our long-term. I don't know what happiness and I'm the most bliss person you know. I've very interesting carrier fantastic wife life meetings on so good harass you still question what happiness I do and so when you want all those rallies and races and momentary the happiness exactly so so as the next onto the name all the way that being the tendency to to look at what could be better Joe. Thank thank you very much for your time. Love the think so many little gems in that conversation Jones description of Michael Schumacher the the man how we went about Hiring Ronin Rory Byrne the fact that he wanted to the Ferrari at the end of two thousand four the stolen car on the paradox rally and that number strict seriously and it helps explain why Joan always is how to stop watch around his neck on the pit will could crunch numbers as fast as any computer. Thanks on time and for sharing your members well. That's it for this episode but we'll be back next week with another big name from the world of F. One until then why not subscribe subscribed to be on the great if you haven't already where all of your favorite podcasts APPs including apple and spotify and thanks for your feedback about last week's episode with dairy work it was a cracker wasn't Derek's openness left an impression on many of you including ending Kostas devant wouldn't amazing podcast with Derek. 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Sir Jackie Stewart - Royal Automobile Club Talk Show

Motor Sport Magazine Podcast

28:49 min | 1 year ago

Sir Jackie Stewart - Royal Automobile Club Talk Show

"Uh Hello everyone and welcome to another Royal Automobile Club. Talk show an association with motorsports. I'm foster and I'm joined by editor at large sonar and three time Formula One while champion. SA- Jackie Stewart so Jackie. A very warm welcome to the Mari Walker Television Room at the club. It seems an appropriate place to be doing this. There's a special dinner for you tonight. In memory of that championship fifty years ago can does it feel like fifty years. It doesn't I have no idea of years. Here's a toll on neither my age or even when I finished motor sport it's been such a fast life and the life thereafter. The driving. Living has probably even faster. So it's it's been a very happy time now before we went on and talks about that that championship in sixty nine. And I want to pick up on something. You mentioned. I think with Simon Taylor and a lunch with interview whether you managed to develop a memory of photographic memory where you could remember every recorder every breaking point every circuit. The Eurostat amazing to be able to do that after the history that you had. I think it's even more amazing the fact that I'm an extreme dyslexic and a million right. Now I can recite the alphabet. I don't know the Lord's prayer and I don't would even know the national anthem. I can't remember them and yet I could give you the Norberg rink. One hundred eighty seven corners per lap. Fourteen point seven miles. I think it is and I can remember all of that And probably give changes as well so it's totally contradictory and I can't account for it. I mean and people would say well. You must have just not been concentrating on school but when you're a dyslexic it's a major disruption to your life and and for many can be very destructive to appoint of all sorts of bad things happening and yet here. My motor racing hasn't been affected by quiet. Tall did the ability to memorize the north life other circuits in such detail breaking etc that come naturally. Did you have to work. No I'm not aware of having what I'm in a goat. Remember anything a boat working at my profession. Maybe until until the very end when I was starting to realize the things I had been doing pretty okay and then reliving reliving them a little bit but keep in mind that I knew that I was going to retire. In April of seventy three and it didn't finish until October October that year and somehow or other because I was go into every race for the last time I took a bigger interest in the driving. Actually and by which time I had learned the smoothness in the tidiness of driving Land that mostly from Jim Clark actually So it was. You know people think you've collected more information than you really have. Of course part of it is not only consuming it but actually banking it and being able to rewrite it your own way and not where I think my my good fortune came from you at a very dominant year in nineteen sixty nine and tough position you can rent particularly but when did you start to believe that the world championship was something was achievable for you. You know I never did. Never attorney time off. The World Championship was obviously there. But I never thought of it I never thought of myself being world champion And even when I want it I was a yup absolutely sure canned because Ken was all over me. Yeah absolutely sure and the last one was even more sure kin because I had come from the back of the grid well I had a puncture in second or third lap and in those days I don't know how long the star wars point there wasn't one one point six one point eight sometime recently but no no no I mean it was so bad I mean it might have been nearly a whole lap Before before I got back out and I managed to clear up you know the lap record probably more times I I understand. Somebody told me than any other lab record record and so to speak and funny can try to keep me interested. I think one point put the border you know. Tell me how many seconds that that was behind. But in this occasion it was minus twenty Fangio and again at that time when I finished the race and they said you know you've got a championship twitter. I absolutely sure I mean amazing because there was some races in sixty nine that you one by quite some margin and sombre talking before this one was because had a slow puncture at Silverstone Mongoose. Clem oh by anyway rent wasn't a slow puncture. It shouldn't be real real wing. End Plate was touching and that's why I went along Satan told them to look back because we knew each other show. Well we had been signaling each other all the time for passing window and unhanged or passing going into that was why we I mean. We laughed the whole field. Because we weren't holding each other up most people would be pushing and shoving we went. We were figuring each other to tell them what say to pass because we knew that drafting in those days was very obvious but Ah He went into the pitch because I genuinely was worried that it was going to blow a tire and he saw it as well. Finally he didn't see until I pointed out to him but when he got there a car run a it wasn't a flatter. The car ran out federal. They had had to put petrol in an unused. As you could petulant so Jackie I cannot tell you how happy it makes me that Simon got a lesson. I motor racing factor for me. I say say it may not be the first time going back to the question. The very very dominant that many of the races but when you're in the championship and in those races does it feel like he'll being dominant ever. I mean we see Louis. How much in the moment? Now I never did till I I mean I always thought somebody was better than I always. I never had a better car. Couldn't tell them. They had a better engine because we all had caused. What's at the frontier in the field? And that was the great thing of my period and my opinion I would have. If you had bought won't ecorse worth and you had fond up. Jackie Stewart said. Listen I've just bought Cosworth. Would you drive it. You know in a Grand Prix I would have said yes. I was so confident of Mike. Costin and Keith Duckworth and their team of people nobody got a hospital extra. Aw nobody that I'm aware of and I was keeping an eye on that. Nobody was getting any advantage. So that was the period over. I think that was the the most important part of why that era was probably one of the best. That's ever been in respect to the fact of so many cows were Ravi with the same engine so it was a very good period at that time and and and you weren't allowed to get an engine. That was any faster so it was of course in the chassis of course in the dynamics which were very primitive in those days. But that's why it was. Such churn is such a good period and so many talk top drivers I mean Brabham Clock Hill. Imon a Sit appalled if you think of Jimmy Drop tote offers Louis but if you think about it there was about eight or nine. I think any of the drivers when enriches could win increase then home etc and All with the same entered not swear. I think it's maybe maybe a unique period and the history of Formula One an tools and run from a big glass palace thousand people from from a woodshed in Surrey. How many people have you have working team and it was? I mean it really was I went to the Ford Motor Company. Said you know for your museum which it really truly is you know the the Detroit they've got the most wonderful history of mortaring and so forth has you know you've got a by kipnes wooden hot because because nobody will believe that a car three times won the world championship in a wooden heart was amazing but he chose his engineer genucel. Well he looked after them very well. He had a pension where nobody else had pensions for mechanics and he had a life insurance and and that was an enormous thing was reduced people getting injured or heart. They had health insurance and I don't think any any team at that time. Had that and that's. Ken was an amazing man when it came to all of that he looked after his staff social well and of course kept them. Oh what time can you remember how many people worked on the team that we normally go. It'd be Seven seventy eight people. So what would you think I think when you see today that in a Mercedes of two thousand or however many might be well I. I'd say seven people go into try go into a race Some no there's more than one hundred people go to erase. It's just a different world because no there's Anirudh animus that then there's There's an electronic and every area whether it's transmission of whether it's the engine or whatever else is there it's just just develop. But then again I always has if you think back to the great days of Maserati and Ferrari and Mercedes Benz and so forth and those days days they had the number exists today but the technology of course is more numerous today in any case but it developed into a giant and fight monster almost you would famous the time field safety crusade but he was still racing it not every year the original spur but some as original spa. Lifer out how did you reconcile that. With the the safety the safety development you were seeking was with some difficulty in a sense you know when aversion goes during the late. Scoot to a very large extent Ah You know while I was fighting the nobody rang particularly and spa particularly because these were by both the most dangerous ray strikes likes. I still one didn't win at SPA. and fight when we close by or did win the Belgian Grand Prix. But not eh spy wasn't all that difficult. Actually Nurburgring was a giant and that was by far the most difficult country circuit circuit and everybody talk about a ruse being the ultimate circuit. It wasn't the ultimate corner was master curve because you were flat in a one and a half liter or two liter. You were flat through the mastercard rate left rate and by the we me Motorsport at the very last one was a big house with with Greece. Stones and there was a wee man with the holiday. said he was only site of that thing and shoot enough Everett and I could see it was it was jinx and that that was the there's he he was the big expense he knew where to go and the master was where you went. Not all rush. It's you know we always hear the stories of united rainfall in one race at being boycotting things that in order to improve the safety. But did you have circuits at the time that you loved going to. Yeah I love. It was frightened of it. Every time I left host of you may have heard this before. I looked in my mirror of my car when I drove the drive thinking. Am I ever going to be coming back here. It was such a challenge. You know they did modifications along the way but at one point took off thirteen times in the air now these cows critique off quite well but nevertheless did very well I mean people. Just don't understand that. I don't think that elements that we were competing against in those days put. We were almost unaware of them to. We would just just driving as hard as we could but racing cars sometimes took off quite well but the line. Well Holly I've got a great picture of my name coming down on one front wheel for example from not quite a meter pretty close so I was never frightened two of them but I was thinking from time to time it was pretty silly and for that reason. I was probably the the most unpopular racing driver in the world at that time because I was president of the GPA. And somebody had to speak out but I was also world champion so my voice was loaded from media for example and from the dailies not just the month lease or the weeklies But it was. It was certainly certainly wasn't a happy time. It was the most difficult time. Probably of of my life Tony Ranasinghe you guys. We've got to. We've got to go there because if we don't go there will change but they won't change with oaters standing standing up in our own two feet and it was in the Dorchester. Actually and Louis Stanley was the secretary at that time of the GP. And I think there was eleven grand. Don't pay drivers. There was brisk McLeod's Memorial Services Impose Cathedral when bike to the the Dorchester to the sweet. That raise Louis finally had and it was a real drama because we're all frightened to lose their drive. You know if we say we're not going to drive. Well I'll get somebody else to drive the car and they would lose the drive driving big fear. Ken wouldn't have done that with me. But maybe some other owners would have done but it was Jack Brabham the tip the balance and he stood opposite. We've got to go with Jackie on this because if we don't do this we're never going to get what we need. An it's ridiculous. Keep in mind and sixty eight. We lost a Grand Prix driver in in four consecutive months. Jimmy and the seventh of July now Scotty was a hill claim and make spins was indie but there were growing pre drivers and then Joseph. Joe slicer died. Spa Rule also had room and on fire. We all drove through the fire again. We all drew few one when fire mini-stadium car and fire. We did the same with SPA. When piers courage died? We knew it was pierce. And you're in and I were best friends with peers and we knew it was him and we knew he was dead. His his helmet was on the track. So we knew but we're still driving through the flames so the whole thing was ridiculous. The didn't never stop parise You know when when he died they never stopped to raise when when Williamson died. They didn't stop the race. It was just ridiculous and and people say oh it was awful. Why didn't you stop in help? Wasn't the coach. Just you never did that. You Re historian mentality. Maybe a wrong thing. But that's what we were at that time and everybody wasn't just a the question of the origin and that was the way it was just going back a second to the nurburgring. Wanting you didn't mention pretty sure it's corrected in nineteen sixty eight when you win the about a fortnight or four minutes. Whatever it was in the midst and the rain in the fog Didn't you have one of your wrists. Plastic EST- Wonderful Mutation W near I broke my scaphoid. I didn't know it was a scare for it and I didn't know what scaffolding was this. The deepest bone in your body is very kindly and it takes twenty weeks to repair an iphone. This oh by going to Mohammad-ali doctor because they told me and Spain. They told me when I got back to. Switzerland told me in England. I flew a space listed from England to Switzerland. You've got your scaphoid And then he went on to twenty weeks whatever but he said and I said well then went to America and then I went to a basketball the best basketball college edge up at above Indianapolis Actually Indiana State. They will the best and I thought what the must be the most know about that. Oh yes you scare floyd the bad luck twenty weeks so I came back to Switzerland and then I phoned a specialist who did artificial looms and maybe arms as well and I'll Moses name Lucar no was banned these maybe still has Bernie's lawyer and his father was a top man in that feud and he said Oh. Why don't we do a mold for you and and we'll do it in such a way that you won't get any movement from the SCAPHOID and It'll come through and of course it would be that easy right hand gearshift shift the right hand side and it was tiring but I would never have won the nurburgring effort. been dry because the G. The forces there in and all the bumps in the banks because when it's really wet you know even taken off the ground so it was big long. I lost the world championship. I think generally enderle because it because I miss some races But it was amazing that it worked so it was in plastic all the week until Thursday night then ext cutoff the plaster Peut on this thing which is no lying in Paris. The display cabinet and I wonder nobody rang. I one does on race. I want to three grown pres with this thing and it just worked so you the only driver who woke up happy running at the nurburgring that morning probably well. I wasn't happy I didn't. We couldn't see the twice the size of this room. You could not see but I think the first. I think you ask when you got out of the car at the end of the race was is everyone okay. That's the first thing I asked can tell said this because he was happy. Happy and I said hang on his is everybody okay. Okay because at the ring you don't know when people have an altered because it's a drop-off usually or enter trees bushes and he said not everybody okay because that that was the weekend in August of the seventh we the weekend the that was whatever but he was getting killed and the numbers. You have expected that CA- several times I was there. People were killed. Now we've only got sort of fabulous. I want to touch a you little bit by current formula. One one thing I must ask you about is the goodwood festival speed this year. And what a lovely lovely moment it was to have yourself Daniel. Two sons and Dario was was there as well. And the be all ram going up the hill together and then S- so have the presentation that highs and your wife Helen Below Smarter for meritorious was truly for all of us it was magical by obviously for you poses up well. It wasn't a planned thing and just so happen than mark. Guys'll actually give me the Roy's when I stopped a new helen wards because she couldn't see it before so I told the two nurses I think one of them's here tonight. Actually there's two. Helen has all of the time. Twenty four hours a day. We've got several together but you know two at a time. So I knew where she was. And that's when I start and gave the flower And it wasn't it wasn't a Hollywood one. It was just one of these things and it was nice and it was nice at data. I was there too. Because of course was he had been part of Portugal racing and everything. Yeah but sad that I had to do it if you like to look at it that way. You know because of have Helen's illness because currently there is no cure and there's no preventive medicine so it's not a good time in that respect but I think the work the work that you're doing mm is is making a difference is I think we're breaking new ground. We're using Formula One by the way we use both red bull and McLaren And I had the minister of Health McClellan ten days ago letting city. How quickly problem solving is done? And Everything's immaculate and clean and tidy and the people are tidy and clean an immaculate in every way and that's what I have not found yet it and it might not be well taken by the medical world but it's nothing Lakers take as for me the one so I'm using that as a mortal for the PhD's that we're buying at considerable cost because it costs about one hundred and fifty thousand a year but you've got to pay the money and four for five years In advance only got five at the moment We can afford because we're raising money. It costs a lot of money but it it for thirty years. Nobody's found a cure or preventive medicine. That's not right. That's not what motivation does so. Why in medical not as fast breaking new ground unquestionably the brain as the most complicated piece of Kit Way Ahead of euro space ace as complications? And the nobody's really gone yet. Nobody knows why are huge percentage. And we're talking talking about more people dying with dementia than any other illness right now and it costs more because many any dementia patients live for quite a long time because they sleep a huge amount of time so they arrested the heart snort infected at all it costs more money to to look after a dementia patient than the combined total of cancer and heart disease each year so so we need to find a cure for it. Well it's it's amazing amazing what you're doing and wanted to touch quickly on karn foam into one song talking before hands Ross Ross brawn has come in and he's hoping to try and make some changes to Formula One to make more exciting to appeal to more people but he seems to be always sort of stopped by the politics of it all. What would you be doing if you're in charges? I mean what is referred. Well I think Ross is the all right man first of all because he's he's a racer you know. He used as good as you get what he did. With Ferrari and with you know all the success achieved with Michael Schumacher etc etc.. And he's very level headed is nobody can bio that's an important element And his heart. What's behind as well as his head? And he's got a good head. So I think the safety elements. I still don't think that the Grand Prix Drivers Association have anything like as much influence as the shoud have because at the end of the the The other guys out there I just the Mexican Grand Prix. The accident that Bosch had he he was trying to keep the power on good. RUN THE LAST CORNER ON qualifying heading for poor and he just didn't have enough fraud bitty kept going. He hit the wall and run very fast. And then there was a difference in the depth of the war by a boat. Well about twelve to fifteen inches sticking out before the rest of the body of continued. And that's where all the damage was done now. Today it's a deformity structure. The confidence of survival cell. If not had happened in the days that we're speaking of Elia somebody would have been desperately injured but the cockpit no is absolutely great. The drivers topped away. The deformed structure of the racing car is allowing that driver to survive and sore so is the barrier. So it's been a great change from designer engineering side it as well as has been for us to have influenced the re strikes to have to change. Because I believe sincerely that if we hadn't done I'm not we bike in the seventies I think Formula One would have ended because of insurance companies because there was going to be a big action. That could easily have been Lhamo accident and nobody was paying attention to sing. We've got debra fences like have Indianapolis and and even since then Indianapolis of improved the Deborah fences so we were behind. It wasn't the question. Jackie Stewart being a pussy. Was the the fact that my reality was. This is serious because midge multinational corporations don't like to see death. This should be considered part off off so whether it's on the track or whether it's the manufacturers themselves it's not socially correct the come out and you you know. Switzerland today has no motor sport race strikes because of the limo accident so it was heading in the wrong direction and it wasn't isn't a popular thing was the most unpopular thing I did. I mean I you know. People like to celebrate success and so forth I. I didn't get as much because of that because a lot of people were saying. It's Pushcart isn't it hasn't got it. But how do we not Donna. I think we would have been in serious difficulty. Well I I think I speak for pretty much everyone out there now. Everyone is extraordinarily grateful for what you did White people watching the seminar wearing black ties. Sasaki is is. We need to let you go. Because he's going to get changed for dinner. I'm going to. We're GONNA wind moines tonight but I thought it'd be I didn't want to class. I should have anyway so Jackie. Thank you so so much is always an absolute pleasure talking to you. Enjoy dinner tonight and happy. Fiftieth Anniversary.

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Feb. 16: Dalton Kellett joins the show!

Raceline Radio

35:14 min | 10 months ago

Feb. 16: Dalton Kellett joins the show!

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Truly all in our finest BIB and Tuck too cool to share this hall with such luminaries as to name a very few sir. Jackie Stewart Nigel. Mansell Junior Hanley Ron Fellows Paul Tracy and Thomas Dodge Jock. Jill Vilna Tim Miller and so many many more. Thanks to another fellow hall of Famer. Dear friend Bruce Mellon Becker for the original nomination to get yours. Truly in the hall in the media category appreciated beyond words. Oh got some sound around this thing with Formula One's Ross Brawn and three time Indianapolis. Five hundred legend Gianni Versace going to be hearing that sound in coming weeks on race. Line radio all right the sixty second edition of the Daytona five hundred the Great North American race as we call it the launch of the twenty twenty NASCAR season. Yeah Messy rain just would not go away. Delayed the start then returned after twenty laps in red flag with pole sitter Ricky stenhouse leading and in control pushed ahead officially Monday out of the radar. Just didn't show any clearing for this thing so family day in Canada President's Day in the USA at four PM Eastern and the Daytona five hundred resumes on lap twenty with Stenhouse in the League In the lead rather a full wrap up next weekend on radio and of course at Nas. Car Dot com talk about trucks earlier in the week. Daytona Grant Finger wins that one big wreck on lap ninety eight Scattered the Field Canada Stewart. Freezing twenty-first Raphael Assert his very first race twentieth. Xfinity Noah grissom takes that at speed weeks at Daytona. We're in it wasn't raining touched on this last week did little history during Daytona speed weeks. When eighteen year young Haley Degan finished second in the ARCA race. That ties Shawna Robinson's ninety nine finish as the best female in the series at Daytona. Haley says she wanted to wipe the slate clean with their new assignment. She she's had words with other drivers in the past and other series but she wants that behind her. Say One thing I regret from the past. Two seasons was making like More enemies than I should have. More having more grudges than I should have. And that's something the season I really wanted to especially coming to series allow new drivers. I really wanted to stay away from that. One have people on my side boys. You go she. We'll come back to refuse charges mentioning him in asker trucks and also eighteen year old. Degan in Arca Yemen as they say in the WHO says the kids are definitely all right that ask our series report is brought to you by general tire. Anywhere is possible Kenny Wallace. Thank you to. Her is making a stop in Canada. Don't you August eighteenth and escort paintin series of Sweden's speedway in global newsradio nine hundred c HMO Hamilton coverage the first time on dirt for Nascar Canada most know that Kenny's fifty-three-year-old brother of Nascar Hall of Famer and former race alarm radio guest rusty Wallace well in F One? The Tragic Corona virus outbreak in China has forced the postponement of the Grand Prix of China. The April nineteenth weekend. They can't take any chances and we all understand that during his Canadian Motorsport Hall of fame. Toronto auto show visit. F One's motor sport and tech director Ross Brawn told us it is a shame. They had to postpone China. But it is the right thing to do. China's become a very enthusiastic market. We turn the tide in China. I think a few years ago the work we've done with the promoter we've put the race A say on national TV FAN FESTIVALS ETC and. It's a very strongly grind. Mock it for a certain frustration that we can't we can't put race on but we look at the end of the SF. And I haven't got a solution but looking to see if we can fit it in late in the season we're twenty two races on the schedule and yeah as he intimates. They're very little wiggle room. Rescheduling as bronze says won't be easy but they will find a space for it somewhere. Before the end of the season indycar testing at the circuit of the Americas Austin Texarkana cold and damp rain for the first full blown. Test of the narrow screen is on to further. Protect drivers in the open cockpit. Some like Ram ray host cities comfortable with it in the name of safety others let conor. Daly though still wonder about visibility and air circulation it is obvious is going to take a few of the lads across the paddock. A while to get used to this thing because it's on the cars to stay. They're not going to take it off. And no nothing new. On where candidates James Hinchcliffe will land for at least his two races at Indianapolis. I'm waiting right along with you. Coming up. In Our two part interview Canada's Delton Kellet explains his new gig with legend. Aj flight eight that good news right the rally news the presentation of the Subaru wrx and wrx STI creating those monster sales talk about the world rally championship at the rally. Sweden Toyota's Elfyn Evans claimed his second career. Wrc Victory at the shortened rally evans dominating the event from the opening stage and beat defending world champion. Hyundai's authentic by twelve point seven seconds Kelly Rovanpera took a sensational first. Wrc podium in the second Toyota. The teenager beat teammate. Legend Sebastian. Oj In a final stage shootout. Wow Big gap on the twenty. Twenty Canadian Rally Championship presented by Subaru schedule. They don't go get until may twenty four with Rocky Mountain rally in Premier B C for sports net nine sixty Vancouver back toback defending. Wrc MAKE THAT CRC champ. Cara Cara won the season opener the rally pierce in Milwaukee Quebec Bikes Yamaha with its version of. Gp's whole shot device at the Sapang test copying some several starting devices. Some of the twenty twenty factory bikes appeared with the new switch on the left hand side of the bike. It makes the bike squat down. 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Share your thoughts series. With fellow gear heads across Canada Chouinard the Grand Prize in the Subaru race. Lonnie mailbag Trivia contest. Okay rain pit. Stop please but coming up one of our interview with Canada's newest pilot Mr Dalton Kellet this race line presented by Subaru arranging performance. This week at your local Subaru dealer anywhere along the race. Line radio network this row world on. You're listening to race. Line Radio Canada's National Radio Motor Sport Thirty- yes indeed race line radio great to have you strapped in with us. Always one of our long-standing show mandates to chart the progress of young up and coming Canadian racing talented and their scads of it. We have followed this. Toronto driver up the road to indy ladder. Most recently working in delights for Michael Andretti's people. He's just graduated windy cars as part time driver for the new. Aj Flight Squadron. Were our guest twenty non. Sebastian Day and Charlie Kimball will share two cars for the quickly approaching season. So here's part one of our one on one with Dolphin Kellet on race line radio. The idea that you're going to be doing it with three other well known guys for a Legend Lake J. Foyt as you said in in countless articles that I've seen in the release. It certainly may be a little corny but it definitely is a dream. Come true for you. Isn't it yeah. I think that's been the fame air to get the opportunity to run a partial Susan. J foyt racing. It's just I'm very happy for the Opportunity Dalton. How can you detail for us? You know? Sometimes guys like to keep these things kind of close to their vest would. Can you give us kind of a step by step process and in how this all came about I mean? Did you notice the question? Ask anybody in up and coming Canadian Drivers Union. Did you go to them? Did they come to you? Have agents working for you? How did you glue all this together? Because I know the fans out there really think this is quite a unique process. How did it all glued together for you? Yeah it's a good point. Yeah probably be more more more transparent with how all of this maybe it is. It is all pretty interesting and How how Kinda starts is you know coming up to junior ranks. And and especially in the road indy and that feeder series and the. Us You have really good access to the INDYCAR team owners and now back when I was racing with android inside access but even the people that aren't with a team that has an Indycar team has a junior team for the most part you can as a driver and the and the junior formula walk up to the tens. I mean it helps us. You know who you're looking for sure go to android. You WanNa talk to Michael. Like you have to do your homework. I kind of stuff. But once you know who you're looking forward to SCOPE and ask for the most part if they are available they'll get your number and give you a call so that Early on building the relationship you know. Many different teams as important absolutely. That's helped me help me through my career that specifically with the the deal I think I I met Larry through Darren Manning my doctor coach philosophy years. He actually raced with them and think. Oh eight or nine Kinda. Tom Buckling Silverado. And that relationship was already there and I I met Larry but four years ago wrote America And you know you just kind of keep tabs and when the offices and comes check with all the teams he was coming on and that's basically how it starts when this season was over. The decision was made on my end. That we're looking to try to make indy-car happen it. It definitely wasn't wasn't a for sure. Exactly we Lavalle the options and spoke a lot of teams and we got you know relatively far down down down the line with smarter discussions but At the other day it came down to you know what I was looking for as a driver. And what we're able to bring from you know finding Parker stamp right just the nature of the of the market nowadays And you know with team what a team like flight with their historic brand and just that history and not now that has That that was some way that we felt was really valuable and we made the decision to go with them. So hopefully that answers. Most of your question it does. And it's it's fascinating. How many different ways deals like this can go together Dalton because it You know because as you say there there are lots of drivers out there trying to get exactly where you wanted to go into land where you are Just talk a little bit about the well. Let's talk at the top. We're going to talk about your teammates as well. And there's certainly a wealth of knowledge and a lot of championships there. But you know you talk to Larry Foyt. And he's the one that runs the team. Have you talked to the man himself? Anthony Joseph I mean imagine. You've probably had some some conversations with this guy I mean if there's somebody out there who doesn't know who. Aj Floyd is listening to this or something wrong with him because he certainly will exactly under a rock. You know four indy. Five hundred wins. You know one of the winningest drivers of our generation could win on dirt and Champ cars and certainly could win in stock cars and and In endurance racing and sports cars. You've got a sports car background as well. What conversations you've had with Anthony Joseph up to this point up to this point I actually haven't talked stage since the deal was signed. Okay okay which may surprise you but you know most of the day to day running on Larry Shoulders At at the track. We're going to be tested. Be there. We're all going to be able to talk and get to know each other a lot better but I actually AJ He was the first time last year and it again. It was just we we we were getting dinner at Saint Pete One night and AJ Kind of his sat down with tales table beside us. And you know he kind of did a double take it there and said Oh you know in scrooge that way yeah sometimes it happens over dinner there you go part one of the indy-car interview with Canadian rookie from Toronto. Kellyn driving for a j foyt. This coming season and there is unreasonable. Radio part two will hit a little later in our second. Guess a segment but what a break. This is for Dalton. Kelly has been trying to get to the INDYCAR thing for such a long long time. And now he's got a partial ride. That's okay. That'll be a good start for them. All Right Lorraine another pitstop if you can please and I know you can but straight ahead the Subaru Race Lonnie mailbag trivia contests. And your chance to win the Grand Prize. 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Directors of radio stations back when we started race. Line radio In in Nineteen ninety-two Alan Davis WHO's now the program director. Ey. Wgn Radio in Buffalo. Sent me a lovely note. Terry Ramsey of done some television work with Over the years with the dirt modified stuff On ESPN and a few other channels Thank you very very much for all of your very very kind notes. We had a grand grand time Ten members of the media who are noted unnamed last year member. Mary ready was there for the little gala dinner. Then we had our our formal induction. We got her medallions and got to do speeches last night. And we just mentioned fast at hackensack was certainly there Day Francs Bruce. Mellon Bacher. Who already in the hall of fame with his family. The macher family for drag racing. Bruce put my name up for nomination. He's a dear dear longtime friend. We couldn't do this without Bruce and he was there as Arbogast and it was fantastic to have him there. Tim Miller my very very good friend From the Hamilton Spectator. Who's always got great insight in a good friend as well of COURSE NORRIS MCDONALD TORONTO STAR? Who's been on this? Show play as well. Was The emcee of the event. Dr Hugh scully. Who's a on the board of directors? They had actually of the. The Chairman of the Board of the Canadian. Motorsport Hall of fame. Was there For the induction too. So it was an awful lot of fun we had We had a great time and we made it a a weekend thing in Toronto and to be included in the media. Category in that hall is phenomenal. Of course. The big highlight last year was when Mario Andretti came up to me and And congratulated me being in the hall of fame in. He's in there as well with such luminaries as I mentioned in the news of people like a while Jackie Stewart and Nigel Mansell and others but One word from me. Now thank you very very much for all the kind notes. Congratulations senior contest entries. Your comments US Eric. Race on radio DOT CA to get it in here the question you've got to answer correctly the two thousand twenty Su wrx and the STI comes equipped of the premium. Sound System described the system in pretty fair detail. Okay another pit. Stop right here in Iran than part two of the interview with newest rookie and a Canadian devote Dalton Kellet. This is race line presented by Subaru for the ultimate performance handling test. Drive a beer sports coupe this week anywhere along the line radio network. All right this girl walks with coming right back on race. Land Radio Canada's National Radio Motorsport Bharati are twenty eighth consecutive season on the air across Canada. We the race line radio network. We have a new Canadian driver. In the indy car. Series this rapidly approaching season. It starts as a part time GIG. Sure but it's what he's been working on for a long long time and we've kept track of his progress on the road to indy program. All along is going to share two cars with Tony Kanaan Sebastian. Day and Charlie Kimball for a J foyt how it all came together. Here's part two of our one on one with Toronto's Dalton Kellet on race line radio. Let's talk about your teammates. Wow what a roster we know Tony Kanaan and the championships that he's one and and and the fact that he's GonNa do just the ovals this year what are you gonNA to learn from. Tk Talk Talk about a guy who's just a great guy to begin with but his knowledge and his accomplishments have been amazing. And you've got to learn a lot from that. I'm collapsing his first year and Indycar was the ninety eight and I started racing. Go karts at two thousand or three indycar long then have been racing Which is probably true for a good portion of the field. There's a lot of very very experience guys But when you when you have a teammate life Tony who's been around for a long time. You know he's going to be a great asset not only from the technical and drive inside where he'd I'm sure we'll have lots of input but comes to the more you know the the other side of it when it when it comes racing Andy for the first time dealing with all the extra stuff that comes with being indycar driver and you know that that side of it can. I can be a little overwhelming. For rookies have injure kind of a Tom experienced. He made Orlando and I think he's going to be going to be important. Then from the drive inside of here you know. That's just a wealth of knowledge that I'll have to tap into. Yeah exactly and then you talk about four day. My Gosh you know. He's been a guest on this program many many times on the championships that he's won the experience that he has. He's a pretty easygoing guy. He's very intense and he gets his game face on. He might be a little tough to approach but What kind of feedback have you had? From savvy yeah so we we. Actually I've known for a while but not been ever been that close you know it's like your face and names and and and path out the new staff and We spent time on Monday together at the shop. That and we went with Engineering manager at the at the team and we chatted for awhile and she talked. We talked at length about race and that was both of our most recent experience car sharing stories there. But you know I. I definitely have a list of questions that LS depends. I WANNA ask. Yeah Yeah between now and the first race we're GONNA be talking about experience. Yeah Charlie Kimball is you know. He's he's been a a consistent Guy Guy who Who races with diabetes overcome a lot of stuff but he's a guy who has a very very positive outlook as all the guys. Do you not K. As well as as sub. But you know Kimble's a guy who who is driving for. He may not have the best results the last little while but he's never say die if you will is one of those positive guys and you've got to agree with the with his demeanor that's a positive thing for you. The actor Charles. A great guy and a and a Frenchman both Charlie and tk Train at PIPPA TRAINING. Reiko the I I see those guys pretty much daylight and Charles always positive. And he's he's very helpful even up to this point. I was telling me offering advice and support and have kind of been being very helpful. He's he's definitely a good guy to have his is positive attitude of rub off on everyone else you know we've said this before and people are GonNa clobber me for saying it again. But in and we just had Eighteen year old Raphael Yard the Stock Car Racer from Quebec and whenever we talk to young guys arena learning situation. You become a sponge. Soak up as much as you can. I guess the task for you is is to take all the information on all the knowledge that your other teammates have and filter it into what's useful. Most of it will be useful and to reject the rest because I think Dalton. You might easily get overwhelmed with all this information. You can't let that happen Kenya. Yeah it's like you know it's like you're I'm I'm I'm sitting in birth revolving pedia and at the end of the day. There's just there's just a not not the time to digest all the information and be a probably that works for Sabah. Telling me in canonic may maybe it's worked for twenty years. Yeah doesn't necessarily work for all right and that's true driver And I think that's where having kind of a consistent approach to what we want out of the car and what I want my drive in and kind of going to every test and every weekend knowing that approach instead of knowing what the goals are strategically that will help decide okay that that information is useful in their throat. That and you know what Tony said about this truck. I could have to write that down from. Yeah remember that. Yeah you gotta you gotTA filter through. With Toronto's Dalton Kellet is going to be co driving with Finan and Kimball this coming season for legend. Aj Void in the INDYCAR series of our special guest erased line radio and as we said we've been charting his racing career For a long long time. Aj as we mentioned earlier on known for his ability to to do well and win in a variety of cars. You certainly have an extensive amount of of Weathertech sportscar experiences along with you know. Usf Two thousand and two. And the indy lights thing in the in the Pro Mazda Program That has always been very wealthy for drivers to have the ability to drive a variety of things you wouldn't think there would be necessarily be a correlation between an INDYCAR and sports cars but it's all race craft. Isn't it adulting? I mean you can learn something from all those other cars as well. Can't you and you know to to speak of the Ellen program that we were part of motor sports last year doing those three races when you just being realistic when you look at the lights failed it's been you know. Seven eight maybe cars. I'm GonNa Light Light Light and it's which is which is a shame and I do hope it grows lucky but you're going to Indycar with twenty to thirty three cars get comfortable being around more cars and just a handful traffic traffic dealing with trophic dealing with a car that was good reminder. Of what the Real Morris. Because I haven't had that for years of lights and then stops or something. Never done in road to indy. And that for me was part of a bigger plan right. You know the the opportunity sort of came about and the benefit was that. Hey I get to practice coming into the box. Him Marks being precise getting getting out of the box quickly without burning the tires up too much or stolen et cetera. So there was quite a bit that that that could be taken from it. Oh exactly and again. It's a learning curve for you in a steep curve that it is but you gotta you gotTa suck all of that stuff up and learn it What about you? A physically moved to Indianapolis You know what's what's on the what's on the In the crystal ball here for the future in terms of you physically. Yes oh I've I've been in indy. Since I graduated Queen's and Kingston from in two thousand fifteen that's right and and I moved right to hear after that so I can in India. I lived in currently in an apartment downtown bucket. I'm actually looking to move into how Somewhere little but east is here that My girlfriend and I are going to be in over the what what the plans are for next year. Yeah hopefully we'll be staying here for for a while but that's kind of what your head has to be spinning Dolton. I mean wow what an assignment. What a GIG. I mean. This is what you've been working foreign. You've got it and you work with Foyt Holy Toledo. You know wild you know and I I've had people ask me that and I going back to the fact that if I told you know. Fourteen year old fifteen year old. Dalton. He'd be Sharon Indycar with Tony Kahn. And Borei were at the time and still are big names right. Okay and just the the uniqueness of this of this situation with point name with the three drivers sharing the car. It's it's it's it's very exciting and there's a lot of responsibility that goes along with it but I'm ready for the challenge. Yes you certainly aren. Listen don't and we're very very proud of this accomplishment as you say we've been charging you for for an awful long time a new another Canadian indycar. That's always a very good thing. Congratulations on the new GIG. The ver-very best of luck with it and as we say as we get into the season we'll we'll check back in with the see how things are going but I know everyone's very very excited for the possibilities congrats. Dalton you've earned this and I'm proud of you Erik looking forward to talking later in the air. Well already has an and one a good story. This is we've described earlier in the program here all set for the new INDYCAR season part of AJ flights. Four men attack with Tony Kanaan. Sebastian Board Day and Charlie Kimball. There's Toronto Rookie Dalton Kellet on race. Line radio as we said we have followed this young man right from the very very start on the on the on the ladder. The road to indy ladder. Doing some indy lights with the Andretti's and And working at it very very hard training very very hard you know. As he said the indy lights thing not a lot of cars you gotta get used to allow you know pitstops in a lot more cars as well but I think he's up to the challenge. It only starts as a part time gig with Jay. But you know that's where you start and you're GONNA learn a whole lot from the from that roster of drivers from Anthony Joseph Himself Dalton Wiz is gonNA run rather The the hometown race Toronto in the summer and that is goods. That's at least one Canadian in the field on the lake for July already lorraine let us fire off at final pit. Stop right here we can. Then we'll be back for the last laugh or next week's show lineup and a few more bits besides This is race line presented by Subaru powered with heart pounding. Wrx Sti now fifteen time. Canadian rally manufacturers champion on the race line Radio Network This is Richard PD. Come right back on. Graceland Radio Eric. Thomas sprayed-on across Canada on the good old race line radio network white flag up there. There it ends one more lap to go. So here's what we're planning to glued together for you for next week. One on one with the man who runs Formula One managing director of the man who steered Michael Schumacher Glory Mr Ross Brawn for his. Take on changes in the championship and other things. Besides it's an early spring when it's almost Mohtaram time. Get a preview of next month's Mohtaram accustomed car and Motor Sports X. Ball within sight tracks Greg McPherson plus the Subaru Race Lonnie mailbag Trivia contest. But when checkers lie we say goodbye. Hugh enormous race line. Thanks going to kill at Ross Brawn Greg mcisaac and Canadian International autoshow Media Haley Degan and ARCA NASCAR media big thanks commander. Lorraine postmen and Josh Santos for operational and production excellence from all of us. A baseline radio. I'm Eric Thomas. So long everyone race line coast to coast of the race. Long Radio Network presented by Subaru has been driven by the Subaru wrx wrx STI NPR's ad more at Subaru dot ca and by general tire anywhere is possible. 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