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"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

Past Gas

07:32 min | 2 d ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

"Were like still got him on TV? The fourth race of the season in China was also contested in wet conditions. And this proved to be advantageous to a young Sebastian Vettel racing for Red Bull, who had a Senna esque ability to drive in The Rain. He was very good. People kind of count them out now because he's had a very crappy 2020 season at Ferrari, but he was able to win for the energy drink based team. Its first ever F one victory proving that Red Bull in fact does give you wings, but Vettel gives you wins. Despite the victory for the young German, Braun also had a very strong showing button and Barrichello had finished third and fourth behind the two Red Bull cars, meaning Braun was still well ahead in the point standings very cool. The situation was dire for the other teams, however. Flavio briatore, the outspoken principle of Renault, mused that the season was over and that F one fans had better quote listen to the radio and watch something else. He criticized Jensen as a washed up driver and called him a power Caro, the Italian word for a concrete post. That's rude. It was some awfully Forza language, but it only amused the bronze team who had gone from scrambling to stay in the sport to sitting atop its rankings in three short races. A lot of good insults in this one, a Muppet and a concrete post. Oh, that guy? He's like a freaking concrete post. Wow. That is pretty great. The magic season seemed like it couldn't end for Braun. In the next race than the desert of Bahrain, Lewis Hamilton proved why he was, you know, Lewis Hamilton. By setting the fastest lap time in qualifying. Unlike Braun McLaren Mercedes was using a curse system in the McLaren car finally seemed to be taking full advantage. As Jensen caught up to Hamilton on the first lap, Hamilton deployed his curse, bumping him from 185 to 190 mph. But it wasn't enough. Oh man. By the second lap button superior arrow overwhelmed Hamilton's car, and he held on to the lead for the remainder of the race, a full 7 seconds ahead of Sebastian Vettel in second. It was a far cry from the beginning of the season when Ferrari had offered Braun use of their engines. In fact, Ferrari, in particular, had failed to score a single point in their first four races. Its worst ever start to a season in the team's entire F one history. Yeah, until this year. Because Charles Leclerc, he scored some points at Austria, I believe the first race. I think he got third place. For the next race held in Barcelona, bronze one off sponsor was terminator Salvation. Arguably one of the worst terminator films. was all about puny humans battling against killer cyborgs in a post apocalyptic hellscape, a modern update of David and Goliath. But terminator had nothing on the real-life David and Goliath story playing out on the track and the true story apocalypse of the Great Recession. Kind of a stretch. In the true story, ginseng. Braun pocalypse. The only wrinkle was that Braun was looking more and more like a T-800 robot in its own right, demolishing the rest of the field, Grand Prix after Grand Prix. In fact, at Barcelona, Braun was so far ahead of its competition that the main storyline emerging from the race was conflict within the bronze GP organization. After a crash in a race start, it was decided that button would take only two pit stops for the race while his teammate Barrichello would take three. Button crews to his fourth victory in 5 races, but his Brazilian teammate was furious. Barrichello had driven faster laps and was convinced that the team was favoring Jensen even though they were equals in teams seniority. I think, I mean, I should probably probably should have watched this race. But yeah, a team will do that. They'll give different drivers on their team different strategies to cover their to cover their back, usually. So if Barrichello had three pit stops, he's going to have newer tires by the end of the race, and with Jensen only on two, that means his tires, no matter which compound they use at that second pit stop, his tires are going to be a lot more worn by the end of the race. So if the car falls off and pace, you have the fresher tires and bear Keller was driving faster, it was possible that he could have leapfrogged Jensen. It's the same reason that the two guys who know the recipe for Coke don't fly on the same plane. It's not really like that Joe at all. Yeah, 'cause one of them, if that plane crashes, then the other guy who took the bus. Oh yeah, I guess I could still deliver the recipe. Ross brawn and Nick fry played down Barrichello's frustration, but there was an ingredient to consider in Jensen emerging as the team's top talk. Brought and fry, flew back to England from Barcelona on a budget airline full of British F one fans who'd been attending the race. They're like the Bernie Sanders of F one. It was part of their effort to make cost cutting a part of the team culture, but for I recalled enjoying the experience immensely. Surrounded by adulation he wrote of the fans that it was abundantly clear they were regarding grand GP as first and foremost a British team. This was hugely enjoyable for me. We had spent years brainwashing our staff back at brackley that they were part of a Japanese team and a Japanese family. Showing them videos of the birth of Honda. It was always hard work. But now, we didn't need to think like that anymore. We had a pretty driver and Jensen. We had a major UK based company on board with virgin. At another British family owned sponsor in Henry Lloyd. While we weren't waving the fag in an overly nationalistic way, it was clear that this was a very British effort. Well, it's just well done, James. I just want to say that. That is one of the better performances for sure. It's a great speech though. Dude, like these British, like, higher up card race guys. Or maybe it's just like all race guys. Like, I feel like all these race guys are just so quotable. Oh, yeah, for sure. If you're a good racer, if you have a good racing program in any motor sport, you're probably a very sharp guy. Yeah. Well, fries description of the team sounded like an outtake from the king's speech. Who could blame bear Keller for feeling a tad miffed at the damp squib, his mates had cocked up for him. He was pissed. After the Spanish Grand Prix came Monaco. It was another dream race for button, who started in pole position and dominated the entire race. The only glitch came after the race when button finished and parked his car in the wrong place, not realizing the podium finishers were supposed to pull up to the main straight in front of the grandstand. Undeterred, he jogged down the track to the cheers of the crowd to claim his trophy from the prince of Monaco. The metaphor was perfect, because button was on a historic run for the season. 5 wins and one third place finish in 6 races. Amazing. It was the best F one start since Michael Schumacher in 1994, 15 years prior. The press and the rest of the press

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

Past Gas

07:42 min | 2 d ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

"Respectively in the final point standings, which as an F one fan, not impressive. Not only was the team performing poorly, spending an F one was by all accounts out of control. During the 2008 season, Formula One's teams spent a combined 1.6 $1 billion just to field their cars about a $150 million a team. Honda's budget was even higher than the average, some estimates out there put it at $300 million per year or the price of 20,000 base model Honda civics. Dude, I would have to host 300 videos on them. Just to have an F one team. That's crazy, man. Wow, that'd be so hard for you. I know, that's like, I don't think I don't know if I posted that many. Anyway, anyway. Honda's withdrawal meant that the team was now up for sale, gentlemen. It was a disappointing end for Honda, which had only rejoined F one as a team in 2006, just two years before. After spending decades as an engine supplier for other teams, I will say sporadically, they weren't they weren't in F one all the way through. Honda kind of has a history of showing up for a little bit, supplying engines, and then kind of quitting, they have a very weird relationship with the sport. They just quit again, right? Yeah, they're going to be out. They're going to be out. As of the end of this year, I believe, which means Red Bull will probably license the engine design and keep working on it, but they won't have the support from Honda, which will be kind of not good. We'll see how that works out. So the team had had a strange history having gone through previous iterations as British American racing or BAR. And before that, they were called Terrell racing. This meant, while the team was Japanese owned, it was based in brackley UK and mostly staffed by British employees. With a sale of the team, the stakes were much higher than pounds and yen, the Honda F one team employed over 700 people. And if the team folded all of them would be out of the job in the midst of a terrible recession, when Honda's chief operating officer Hiroshi oshima broke the news of Honda's withdrawal to team management, just days before the public announcement, the usually composed businessman was near tears. To make matters more painful, Honda's team led by principal Ross brawn and CEO Nick fry had reason to believe that the 2009 season had a potential to be a breakthrough year for the team. They were just completing development on a brand new car called the RA one O 9 with aerodynamic innovations that team believed would make Honda competitive again. In anticipation of oshima's visit, fry and bronn had worked out a plan to cut 30% from the yearly budget, but oshima was firm. Honda is simply couldn't afford to stay in Formula One. That's a bummer. I mean, it's a multi-billion dollar company. I think they're all right. Braun and fry came out of the meeting stunned. They both understood how important racing was to Honda's heritage and how grim the situation must be a Japanese headquarters if they're willing to scuttle the program altogether. When the two Brits broke the news to the rest of the F one principles at a meeting of the Formula One teams association, the most powerful players of F one were equally shaken. But a rare camaraderie emerged. Before Honda, Ross brawn had worked as technical director at Ferrari for a decade, he was one of the big players responsible for Michael Schumacher's dominance. He was one of the first non Italians to be technical director, right? That's correct, yes. And as such, he had a very strong relationship with Luca de monteza molo, who was the chairman of Ferrari montezuma offered to let Braun use Ferrari engines in 2009 to keep the team in competition, which when you look back at Ferrari, that's like, that's an exceedingly rare olive branch there. Usually Ferrari does supply other teams with engines this year. They supply Haas F one, they supply alpha, Romeo, of course, and there's one more crap I can't remember. Giglio's, giglio. Yeah. Yeah, sure, Leo. Automobile squiggly off? Yeah. It's a big bowl of Scandinavia. He's made of linguine, yeah. In that one, if a team like Ferrari is supplying other teams with their engines, those teens almost act as feeder teams for the main Ferrari team. So it's very strange that they would kind of break that tradition and offer an engine to a team like this former Honda team because there's no prior relationship there. So when Braun later broke the news of Honda's withdrawal to the teams gathered employees, he spoke an inspirational tones about the group finding a buyer for the team to keep things going. But the reality was much darker. What kind of company or investor could afford to take on a $200 million F one team in the middle of a recession no less? We just found out that I could not. Yeah. So if James can imagine, okay? Brahm was forced to make huge staffing cuts. He fired half of the workforce, which was a devastating blow, even for those who managed to hold on to their jobs. The firing meant that the team was now a skeleton crew of only those employees are essential for race day. Next, like their F one version of a RomCom, bad date Montage brought in freiman with a series of dubious financial suitors. The first potential buyer was Vijay malia and Indian Playboy billionaire who already owned an F one team, the newly created force India, which is now known as racing point today. Curious about a possible merger, he invited the ex Honda principles to his castle, which was located near Silverstone. Frye was amused to discover that Vijay is castle was in fact what it was called an eye catcher. It looked like the castle from the front with spires and turrets, but from the side it was just a regular old building. Kind of like a facade in a frontier town, which is amazing. According to fry, it perfectly summed up Vijay's prospect as a partner. Lots of flash, but not much to back it up. I love frontier towns, like with saloons and general stores and stuff like that. That's my jam. You're born in the wrong time. Oh, things you should be better in 1872. That's what I always say, right? Mayor America 1872 again. Next up was Achilles. A Greek businessman who had later be jailed for the biggest loan fraud in British history. He referred to himself as ambassador of the republic of San Marino. San Marino's flag isn't red, but it may as well been. Was a bust. Increasingly desperate, fry and bronn even met with a representative of Richard Branson, the billionaire owner of the virgin group. The car was sponsored by virgin. We'll get to that. There's a little bump in the road first. This is the James you're encyclopedic knowledge of Formula One. Once again, destroys a story point. In an episode. You can help it talk about it. I got to spill the beans.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:30 min | Last week

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"In formula inevitable to be unhappy at finishing second considering where Ferrari has come from and the restructuring that's taken place is not realistic in this era of cost cap era of Formula One where things are skewed and the regulators are trying to do everything they can to try and mix up the order each year. Ask you a little bit about your opinion on the role of a team principal or a team manager these days. You know, I've talked about this before. Christian Horner has been with Red Bull Racing since 2005, and he is very much the figurehead. Toto Wolff, who has been with Mercedes since 2013, they're not necessarily deep into the engineering. In 2023, what are your thoughts on that job title of team principle? Because we've got others in the paddock like Andrea Seidel at McLaren. I think he's called team principal. But again, he seems very focused on the engineering side of it. That role almost of the Ron Dennis role seems something that's kind of lost in Formula One now and you need more of a kind of business almost media manager in that role. What are your thoughts? I think that thing there is a duty of the team principle to almost be the ultimate PR of the team that you're trying to you've got to take on board the criticism that's coming from outside because you can't be isolated from it. But you want to isolate your team from it. That's what Jean Todd did brilliantly well at Ferrari during those difficult times was batted the criticism away, took it on the chin, would hit back at it sometimes. So it's the team prince was job to protect the team and its staff and also to project an image and explain to the public or the media, you know, what is going on in the reality of what is happening. I mean, there's something that Mauricio reads of any didn't understand. And when you have this complete 100% media shutdown, so it wouldn't speak to the media wouldn't do interviews. I remember sat down with him like 90 minute chat off the record in Baku one year. I was just explaining why I think why I thought it was the wrong strategy that if you don't explain why certain decisions are made, you don't offer some transparency on rights and wrongs that the team have made then the way the modern world operates is those gaps get filled in and speculation wrong speculation can fill those gaps, people can get led down the wrong path. People can leak stuff to try and get their personal agenda going forward. So if you offer openness and transparency without embarrassing your staff or still doing it the way that Mercedes do it very, very well. Post race every Tuesday, they present answers as to what happened to their race of end, whether they win, whether they lose, you know, sometimes it's painful for them. Sometimes it's great. Sometimes we may get 9 temps of the reality of what's happened, but this transparency is important and it's important for the team to do it. And I think mathia was quite good at it, but maybe it could have been a bit harsher at times. Maybe it would have projected a different image of the job he was doing. So I remember I spoke to him in a long sit down with him at the Hungarian Grand Prix this year, talked about his management style. And he said, he likes empowering people. And although it's not as brutal as some other people in the paddock, he was strict with people. And I think he is behind the scenes, it's hard to deal with, wouldn't accept mistakes, was ruthless when it came to performance. You know, it was a team pushing the boundaries of the rules on engines and chassis and where they operate, but this being a successful Formula One team. So you've got to balance all these different aspects. And I think being Ferrari team principal has added pressure because you've got the weight and expectation of a nation behind you. There's a great explanation of what happened at Ferrari in that noughties era in Ross Peron's book total competition, which he wrote with Adam parr and it's a bit of a management book. If you like the book that it's meant to be that kind of book, if you like, it's not for the sort of average Formula One fan, but Ross, for those, perhaps newer to the sport, through just coming in to Formula One is growing all the time and not necessarily following the ins and outs, Ross Braun announced a long time ago he'd be leaving. The sport this year had a wonderful picture with his family on the grid in Abu Dhabi. But of course, because he is Ross brawn is retiring and leaving Formula One. It happens at the same time as Ferrari need a new boss. Inevitable, understandable from some people putting two and two together and getting 5. But there is almost a comparison to make with actually Ferrari need to rediscover what he and Jean tot had at that era of Ferrari. After that final point, I made about their Achilles heel. How do Ferrari move forward without having a boss, a team principal who is constantly saying, well, this is the last guy's problems that I'm trying to fix and unpick. They almost seem like they had it with bonato. If only they could have managed to navigate their way through this, despite all the criticism and given him a really long opportunity to get his feet under the table. It's only been a couple of years, two, three years. What do you think about that long-term plan of Ferrari? Part of the problem is that it's almost a poison Chalice now taking on this job because it's clear that finishing second after a season like they've had isn't good enough. And forces management change, then only winning is going to be acceptable. So far I'm going to have to come out of the blocks and win at least the first three or four races next year to have achieved any progress over what would have happened. So would you want to be a team any current team bus to step into that role and try and take on all that in the immediate prospect? I mean, it's like that old Dodge thing about a golf club that you don't want to be the company that builds the golf club because it's really, really expensive. So you end up with loads of debt. You don't want to be the company that takes over the golf club second of all because you've got to inherit that debt and try and make a profit. So you want to be one of the third place in. So take the ideal scenario is to be the next but one Ferrari team principal because you'll have weathered all these storms. But I think you want to be a brave person wanting to take on that Ferrari team principal job now because just the expectations of what's needed, the time taken to make the progress and the fact you're going up against Red Bull dominant car this year, a recovering Mercedes in an era of a cost cap where hands are tied and it's really difficult to make swift progress because one wrong decision at the wrong time of year can have huge ramifications I think you need to be fairly brave person to do it.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

05:08 min | 3 months ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Or whatever. And it's been a long time since we've been able to do that about Ferrari. In Ferrari's partial defense, this is the first title challenge that they've been in for a number of seasons now. But when they were dominating everything on all before them in the early 2000s, that was because of a three or four year period of Michael Schumacher coming into the team and thus benetton staff following him so he had Ross brawn and Rory Byrne and all of those sorts of people. One of the first things that Ross Braun did when he started out at Ferrari, was he noticed that the team was incredibly fragmented. The engine department, the chassis department barely worked together. Everybody was reading newspapers telling stories of how crap Ferrari were. And one of the first things that he did was move the engine and the chassis teams together, started this period of kind of reunify reunification if you like. And then by 1998, 1999, they were challenging for titles and obviously 5 years in a row. They had fantastic success. And that was it took a little bit of time, but it was this period of acknowledging that there was a problem from the higher ups, bringing in not just sort of sticking to the same mold of their hiring, but going in a slightly different direction and realizing what we're doing now and continuing to persist on the same path isn't working. Let's bring somebody else in who's been there in one championships. So they did that. And they had this period of internal investigation and that was how they built on that success. And it seems like we're going it's like Groundhog Day at Ferrari. It seems like we're going through the 90s again and they have good cars and it's just it's not necessarily the drivers but it's the team not making the most of it. And it's really unfortunate to see because they've got such talent in those cars and it's just being wasted weekend on weekend. This weekend, you'll have had your elbows out in the media pan again talking to all the drivers. Jess mentioned Benny Hill earlier, Benny here obviously famously in chitty chitty bang bang in the country of Bulgaria plays the toy maker when Carlos signs when you're chatting with him was he throwing his toys out of the pram at the strategy blunder. Good segue. He did not throw his toys out of the pram that was an excellent segue, he worked very good job. He was pretty, I don't know, sort of pretty accepting of things, and he just put it down as being a very, very bad day, because yeah, Ferrari didn't have the pace again and I think that's kind of the ultimate thing they've got to work on and realize that in qualifying they were pretty close to Red Bull, but that just faded away in the race for both of them. And then yeah, if science, it was a pretty disastrous race, obviously we had that pit stop pit stop error that cost him so much time. That'll be dropped him out of that sort of podium fight really and behind the Mercedes cars. And then we also had the unsafe release as well, which actually sites was most upset about. He said that he said he did everything he could. He said, I thought I saved somebody's life and then I'm hit with a 5 second time penalty. So yeah, he was pretty annoyed about that. We then had the bit of confusion over his battle with espanol and whether they were yellow flags or not at the FI looks at that and said it was yeah, it was fine that there weren't yellow flags when science made the move, so he was fine with that. And then yeah, at the end of all of it, the 5 second time penalty applied at the end obviously dropped him down the order, and yeah, I think for science, it was one of those weekends where in qualifying he was really there with the collect. He looked like he was a really, really good groove. And then it kind of all just unraveled in the race, basically. And yeah, stuff like an unsafe fleece. That's entirely on the team. And again, it comes down to this whole team sort of processes things and everything like that. And the drivers they can only do so much. And yeah, sciencey said, I thought I did the right thing, but yeah, again, for I just need to look at the whole picture really, but science was he's pretty good at sort of taking these things on the chin. And I guess that's a good thing because it's been a pretty tricky period, I think for him and Ferrari. But yeah, they've definitely missed an opportunity here. And again, for him, okay, the championship's long gone. We know that. Absolutely. But I think it's still a chance for him to get good points and be closer to look like than he actually is. And yeah, this was, again, not really his doing today that led to that unraveling. It was a scruffy race for signs and he was fighting occasion, but I have to say over the last sort of few races, not necessarily from when he won the British Grand Prix, but I think he's really there or thereabouts with leclerc now. Obviously, the narrative at the start of the season was him sort of struggling with that twitchy back end on these new cars. You know how I personally rate signs is a really intelligent driver really, really sort of calculating and just sort of on it. But in terms of pace now, I think is massively close a gap and that has been lost today through blunders both in the cockpit and on the pit wall, but I think kudos signs is rapid at the minute. Yeah, and I also thought he did really well in that battle he had with Sergio Pérez as well, Valtteri Bottas, he retired from the race quite early and he came

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:05 min | 9 months ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Mercedes powertrain runners could do that. It does look like Aston Martin's gone in a completely different direction. Maybe clarin curd. And then potentially Alpine as well, but we don't know how they've packaged this new, this new powertrain as well. Obviously it's the team that sort of did that style of cooling the most last season with that giant air box, but it really depends on that packaging and what works for each team. It does seem that you look at the Ferrari teams, they've gone a completely different direction. I think the slat Honda slash Red Bull powertrains, whatever they're calling it now. It's probably tens towards that direction as well, but the Mercedes teams feasibly could if they've got the spare cash to do it. Plenty of memes flying around today if people posting old pictures of max scowling or Christian Horner scowling. Do you think they'll be upset tonight having seen it? Can Red Bull though from what you've seen today be confident in their own direction? Because again, like you said at the start, actually, they've got some interesting things on their car. And their pace looks okay as well. So what we're loving as fans of Formula One this year is the cars all look different, but as I think you said on the first series of podcasts on one of the ones that you did from Barcelona, actually there could be multiple right answers, not just one right answer, and that's what we're going to love about watching Formula One this year. So how will Red Bull do you think there might be feeling tonight? Well, I think they can be confident in their own direction, as long as it's not the direction that Sergio Pérez was facing at the end of testing, which was the wrong way. In ending under a red flag. We've missed you. We've missed you red flags. Possible end to a test session. Spun a very, very low speed, rolled it back into the gravel. It was like, oh, I'm stuck. Right. That will be the end of the day there. But I think that Red Bull looks incredibly reliable, even though even though he ended the session Perez still did a 138 laps, which is the most of any driver and the rebel did more than any other team. But as you said, there are, I think there are multiple right directions. And again, it depends what works for each team. But again, we'll still start to see other teams put their own put those ideas in the wind tunnel and see what works best and see what doesn't. You look at the Ferrari and it's a completely different direction for everybody else, but it looks, it looks really good. Again, it's reliable. The drivers are seeming to have an easy time with it. Yeah, there's a little bit of pork sing kind of see that on the straights, but it doesn't seem to be something that is causing either Charles Leclerc or Carlos saints to snatch a break or lock up or anything like that. They seem to be on top of it. But I think Red Bull has its own path to forge, I think. We were talking about them in Barcelona and having their own innovative side pod design. Maybe they're just a little bit upset that they're not getting the attention this week. So, you know, it might be that have to wait and see what they do. It might be that. We are going to talk about bouncing next in the second half of the podcast, so make sure you stay tuned in. Okay, now let's talk about bouncing or porpoising. I think they want us to call it bouncing. For some reason. But earlier in this week, we had the auto sport podcast with karoon Chan dock and his 2021 preview. And he made a really good point, and he said, yeah, this is the first time we've seen it in Formula One for many years, but we get this a lot in sports car racing. It's not something that is going to be alien to any professional engineer or aerodynamicist. But again, today we saw those videos of, I think it was gasoline. At one point. And it looked from the onboard helmet facing camera. It looked pretty violent. But Cory was saying, well, you know, what are you going to put up with if you get a few extra tenths? Or the driver is uncomfortable? You know, what are you going to go for? So you did a lot of the live auto sport live today pretty much most of the day. And you watched all the coverage today. So what's your impression of how the teams are experiencing bouncing on a different track, different temperature, different environment, and with more of a setup that will reflect what we're go racing with next weekend. I think we've seen it a lot less bad than it was in Barcelona. I think out of the front, what the expected frontrunners, Mercedes still looked very poor PC. And but they were putting on, they were sort of playing with strengths, strengthening the floor this morning. Putting some stays on. And just to sort of playing around. Was that to do with the bouncing? Or was that something else? There is also an issue around how much the flaws are bending and the FIA have got to look into that as well. Ross brawn talks about an F one TV that that's going to be an area that they're going to have to try and stop any cleverness from the teams that's not in the spirit. But was that to do with this bouncing issue that Mercedes were trying to strengthen their floor a bit? It does seem so. And there were a few other teams that had sort of experimented with it as well, but it's all about how you run those ground effect floors and these produce a lot of down force. These produce much more down force on the floors previously did. And when you're if the sides of the floor are folding down, that's creating a much more closed system. So you're able to derive a lot more ground effect and generate a lot more down force. But the problem is because you're accelerating the airflow underneath the car. Making this problem a little bit worse. And I spoke to a former F one aerodynamicist Jean Claude last week, he designed Formula One cars for Ferrari.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:59 min | 11 months ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"They look good. I look forward to seeing what they come up with. Ben, it's funny that JBL mentions the 2009 era Bron with that double diffuser domination. Do you think a team can come out of the box and dominate like that the last time we've seen that? And do you want a team to do that? I don't think you want a team to dominate at all. If that happens, it's contrary to everything these rules are designed to achieve. I think it is likely to happen because history tells us that usually when the rules change one team does steal a big advantage usually at the start, we saw it in 98 with McLaren Ferrari got back into contention with the narrow track cars and the groove tyres, but McLaren had a big advantage to begin with. So newly doing his homework very well. Braun was a very particular case. I mean, that was, you know, that was the might of the Honda works team that they built an absolute dog of a car for 2007 and 2008 and Ross brawn quite cleverly decided to just pour everything into 2009 knowing, obviously that they're always going to change in a substantial way, and of course Honda disappeared before they could before they could enjoy the fruits of that labor, but nevertheless the groundwork was done by Honda, as well as by Ross. So although that although he had a sort of shoe string crack team running the car that year and they almost limped to the championship by the end as Red Bull were coming on strong, he'd already done the work with back at full backing of Honda. So again, you've got to look to the big the big weeks. The heavy hitters for someone who's going to go out and get ahead all the size points to Mercedes really, even though they might have been slightly distracted by 2020 ones. Partial changes in the title fight, Red Bull, I think will even worse affected because they threw the kitchen sink at winning the title in Honda's last full year. So they might be compromised in the way they were in the early years under the previous rule set where they tended to start a bit slowly and maybe four or 5 races to get going. Ferrari, I think you'd look at making a big step because they were very clear about switching off focus from 2021 after basically spending their tokens and fixing the very big problems they had after their engine was pegged back. So they would have put a lot of extra time into this coming year. They should make a step forward. And also Alpine. If anyone's going to surprise, I'd probably say Alpine because they have kind of written off the last two years, really, in terms of development, knowing that under the previous rule set they weren't going to achieve the lofty ambitions they had previously and they signed obviously Fernando Alonso on the basis of this revolution. It was meant to be last year, of course. Now it's this year. So it's given them a bit of extra time. I think they're the ones who absolutely pin themselves to this mask. So there's a lot of pressure on them. And I think if the resource is there, they're not the best resource team on the grid, but if they've spent those resources carefully and correctly, they could make a big leap in performance. I don't know if it's enough to take them right to the front. That sort of depends if these rules, which are quite restrictive and designed to sort of converge to the cars, whether they're really is the possibility to find something that's totally outside the box. I'm not sure really it's a comparable to 2009. I think the combination of everything at play and the state of the team means you're more likely to see something along standard lines with a few. Jumps kind of within the midfield or out of the midfield. Rather than somebody from nowhere going from say hash intent to the front, I just don't see that happening. Let's talk about listed parts, how it affects things like B teams and transferable components, even open-source components. That doesn't sound very Formula One, sharing things, whatever next. Formula One has gone a little under a little bit of a revamp in terms of how it classifies components, essentially. And as we all know with regards to a second source parts there, sharing is caring. But the thing is when it comes to those particular parts, they're not particularly performance influencing parts, it's things like steering wheels. And a little bits like that, but it's still part of the regulations. You could still theoretically design a steering wheel and then you would put it in a server that other teams could theoretically use extends to things like that, you would usually get from another manufacturer like brake components and things like that. But you know you could theoretically swipe Mercedes steering wheel and use it on your own car, which is quite an interesting work of the roles. The listed and transferable parts, it's not too different to what we have with what B teams are and aren't allowed to use now. All of the aerodynamics that has to be proprietary to a team, but you can use things like gear boxes and suspension from other teams, you know, like from Red Bull and affiliate have that symbiotic relationship, have some Ferrari Williams is expanding its relationship with Mercedes and using their gearbox for example for next season. And then we've got a sort of subsection of the listed parts which the teams have to design themselves, which is the prescriptive parts, which the teams have to produce themselves, but they have to design directly with what the FIA and Formula One is mandated. So that's the little wheel deflectors and things like that. And then you now also have a lot more standard components like fuel pumps and obviously electronics been standard for a very long time. But it's just other things like that to try and cut costs to reduce the amount that teams are putting into developing parts that don't have very much in terms of performance in them. So it's quite a complicated thing and there's this big appendix in the regulations where it's essentially got every part listed in a table and it's got like a little three letter acronym of LTC, which is like listed team component. It's come up with all of these little three letter abbreviations just to make it a little bit more easy to digest. But it's a completely different way about how F one's gone into defining these regulations. They've left a lot of well, they've left no stone really unturned, really. Every single part of the car is kind of documented in this new fashion. I think actually this week as we record this Zach Brown or so had something to say about the amount of reliance that teams have on these beating components and reiterated this desire that F one should be this constructor sport and all of these B teams were getting all of these parts that they have to bother with while McLaren are developing everything themselves. So it will be interesting to see how that narrative progresses as we get into these new regulations. How do you feel about the currents power unit in Formula One? It.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Motor Sport Magazine Podcast

Motor Sport Magazine Podcast

05:46 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Motor Sport Magazine Podcast

"Either have lapped cars coming up themselves or lap cars can't be able to run that themselves, which is a message you've gone up a few minutes earlier. There would be no cars on lap and themselves. But then to specifically say, these cars use causing these costs can. And without mentioning the other cars, that's just not in the regularly can't do that in a regulation. There is no part of the regulation which allows you to do that. And that's where I was in disbelief. And because you knew what that would set up, you knew that there was it's going to put marks on Lewis gearbox and he was on tires that were at least two seconds a lot faster. So of course, that was going to change, you know, that's what was going to happen. It was like land of the slaughter. And it was outrageous and it would have been equally outrageous it would be in Verstappen leading and had been screwed over by, you know, to get to benefit from it. It was just wrong. And the whole thing was because they wanted the drama of a live finish to the season, which is a fine as a general principle that always try and ensure that happens if at all possible. But you can not subvert the rules to get there. You just call that somebody come on social media came up with a great analogy. You can argue the referees made the wrong call on a yellow card, either it was a yellow or he didn't give it or it wasn't and he did. But he can't give a purple card. He can't make a card up. That's effectively what happened. You know, it's a nonsense. And given given that we had such a fantastic season, got there for this fantastic finale on equal points. You then just sort of fall flat on your face. And it was extraordinary bad judgment, I thought. But at the same time, is under massive pressure is on the time pressure is got lobbyist in his ear and lifetime who have access to information, which has worked out in milliseconds on a computer bucket base and how scenarios are going to pan out. And he's running around trying to do all sorts of stuff, you know, including sweeping cement off the track. So he needs a better system in support. The column of done for motor sport said, you know, it was set up to fail. But he did fail in our instant. And it was just such a disappointment. A quick question, Mark. On the teams and their communications with masses. Because obviously, we're all hearing it now. It's all being broadcast. Is it happening more than it used to? Or is it just that it's being broadcast? I honestly don't know. I'm in the same world as hearing it for the first time. And in the days of Charlie, he used to have herbies in alongside them, and they would be a lot of the discussion would be gone herbies way and if Charlie was preoccupied with something else. And I know Michael does have an assistant, but it sounds as though the communication goes direct to him. And I mean, it's been said that that's going to stop from that's not going to be broadcast anymore. It's going to be not going to you're not going to have access directly to him anymore. So that implies he's going to have a herpe type guy fulfilling that role, but yeah, he was set up to fail. Michael himself has said that there was more he thinks before. Before it started being broadcast, and worse. But now that the teams know it's being broadcast a little bit more selective with what they say and how they say it. Whether that's true or not, we won't know because we didn't get to hear the bits before, but it was quite funny when we first, when it first started becoming a thing, you could notice that teams are lobbying him and it sounds like there's pressure being put on him or criticism and we sort of said, you know, is this more than before now? And we're hearing it because because it's being broadcast, they're using it to put pressure on you and you're like, no, it's the opposite if anything it's gone quieter because they don't want to say certain things, although a bit worried about how to be heard over the world feed. But I do think it's gone too far. I think you mentioned Netflix style before. The guys that make Netflix have got too much unfair heat for creating a documentary that shows us inside a working platform that's great and then everyone criticizes them for the way an F one series of finishes. But clearly it was used to make his job harder when it shouldn't be that way. It's almost like saying in any other sport, go and have a rant at the referee feel free whenever you want. And then he'll make a decision because he's strong enough to deal with that. And that's just putting unfair pressure on. So I think it's a good change that Ross brawn says that that will have to change next year. What else needs to change off the back of this controversy? What else do there if I need to do for people I guess that have been disillusioned by this? Not just title for no Hamilton, but millions of fans as well. To fall back in love again with it and kind of have some faith in Formula One from the start next season. Well, the damage is done. I don't know. It's difficult to tell at the moment in terms of whether people have fallen out of love with it. I'll be intrigued to see. Talking to my son earlier on works in the local pub. And he was saying, they're still talking about it. It's a week later and they're still talking about it. So it could be good box office still. It could work in full run's favor in terms of the popularity side. But in terms of what needs to change, I think the whole.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Box of Neutrals

Box of Neutrals

02:48 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Box of Neutrals

"Had a good run. You gotta piss off and do formal eagle or something. Even house. Even host is important, you know? You know why? In their own special way. Are you idiot? I do this all the bloody time. I gotta forget. Because they're not in the championship. And forget about the soap. Okay, for popper. Even Haas has a place on the ground. Even Haas has a long American history. You know, it's not Formula One, but it's an old brand, I guess. Yeah. Okay. Maybe that's where I go to cheese. Aw, man. There's so many people are going to be listening to these guys. Rob's a DB. He's doing this again and then quicker than I, well at least I made my errors. So that's fine. But anyway, but you understand what I'm coming. You want to understand the media? Yes. They're all important. Whereas if we. But we are, again, we only need one or two teams on the grid just to just to make it a hearty filled grid of talent. The stew is looking at thin, you want some lentils in there or some chickpeas. Something to, you know, fill it in. And finally this week. This weekend is Brazilian Grand Prix, which as we've mentioned, the Brazilian Grand Prix features the last of the trial of three sprint races will sprint qualifying. And it's an interesting time because of course a couple of weeks ago there was a survey released with Formula One and I don't know Nielsen poll, news poll, maybe. I don't know whoever did it. And it found out that random newspapers while it's like some weed bloody, some other contortion like Callaway. Petty Costello says I don't pay the oil data or something. Yeah, so they do this survey and they found out that among and there was a 160,000 people surveyed or something like that. Only 40% of fans thought that it improved the spectacle, which is obviously less than half. Well, I'd still decent amount of people. Ross brawn reckons that it's all the people who voted against it. The avid real dedicated fans and everyone else who's not an avid real dedicated fan is a big fan of it, which is, I mean, he's having a go, I guess he's trying to sell it, but also it's a very big fan amongst promoters, isn't it? Because they get an extra competitive session. Yeah, exactly. I've been very big on the session. And it's still experimental. So this is the thing. It's like just like the COVID vaccine. You know, for emergency use it's fine. I'm willing for, you know, some things to go wrong along the prices. Why the mad? See why you get good data from it. So I need at some point Formula One will develop its own antibody pill, but you can have it some more digestible formats and that'll be that's forever gonna be the sprint format. Yeah. We're gonna find this out. You have some good old fashioned real well.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Shift+F1

Shift+F1

06:03 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Shift+F1

"Gp and rally like you a lot of flash of operations who had developed a lot of that like events technical and corporate experience. Yeah it's funny. Isn't it like we're talking about drivers like the the lemon is over. The drivers are where they are. Almost you know all these like everyone's like setting up their army for battle next year it's just gonna be like the dice will roll on. We'll see where the numbers are like. We'll see pretty quick where all these teams are with the new cars. It's just it's it's it could be all for nausea it. Just they mess up. The garden is jenner. Is this last. Era has taught us anything. You don't really retake that ground rice. Yeah regained some of it. But you can't flip the table. Yeah yeah you can't. Yeah there's no we're seeing ferraris. Hot wave wavering at results but like the teams of the bottom have been come near the bottom and the you know haas join them. I guess so. It got worse for that but yeah mercedes were just. They never got such a good start. Never relinquished. i'm so excited for the new cars like remember when there was some regulation change and everyone's noses all look different. Every car knows looked at different like drastically. Different like caterer made that one that just put a sensor bar over but i. That's i think what. I'm most excited about people going like. Whoa you you did that. Yeah horseback awesome. Yeah very looking forward to that something else. That may be different next year is the concept of the sprint. So we've been trying the sprint trying three different times. We've tried it at silverstone at monza and one more time this year will be in brazil formula trying to figure out a way to have more than just qualifying and the race for exciting events. That people will tune in on tv and go to watch in person and so they what they've come up with his sprint which is a third race distance author of the normal race distance. Nope nope it. And the format still fluid. There's there's one you know one thing that drivers apparently were concerned about According to managing director of motorsport ross brawn that they brought up at silverstone was the idea of making the sprint. A stand alone event because what what happens is that you have the qualifying that sets the grid for the sprint. And if you screw up in the sprint like we saw here ghastly goff into the wall have qualified very high rated the back yeah perez and it should be noted sprint qualifying currently right because the way you finish the sprint is how you start the race so having a stand alone event would mean the friday qualifying would set the grid for the sprint and the race. So that it doesn't really matter what happens in the sprint. Except that you would maybe potentially get more points championship points than than it awards now which is currently three for the winter than to than one For the rest of the podium so super close to how formula two has done things. Yeah yeah they have sprint races to sprint races with lower points but nowhere near as like when formula one brought in the sprint races or spice qualifying. I was kind of taken aback by a few points. You gosh i was like oh i guess it's just to figure out the qualifying order mostly and they're kind of giving a couple of points here and there for jeff to like you know you win sprint race. That's a good point all you in two of them. Let's let's take the take sunday off. And they do they do flip the top aide too though yes right. Yeah they the yeah. If you place eight in the in the first one year your first in the next one. So that's that's a good way of sort of shimmying them up. You need a little bit as well in the short races wherever yoshi because two of them process this last week like if one ever introduces reverse grid races. I'll kill myself or something like that. It's all anyone ever wants back like demand emails. We got all the time. Saying here's an idea. Put on the back. This thing i understand drivers probably like. Oh this sucks sprint. Race was not good but i- ghastly. I feel bad for you on on the other. Hand him being taken out and not being there in that like not being able to compete where he's supposed to and having set up that there could be a little more like action and charging through the field it all works like his ultimately the classic f one races are all like some really something fucked up the grid like literally monza like it wasn't because of the sprint race but the only reason that like a big part of the reason that race was interesting all was but as the penalty and started from the back if he started from the front as he did when he wants bring qualifying then like it just would have been another mercedes processional with a you know an interesting race for the podium positions but it wasn't because hamilton didn't have a great start on race stable nothing compared to the abysmal start he had a sprint race right so again like this like i understand like it's weird the sprint race you can evaluate it by itself as doesn't generate good racing so far the is real mixed right silverstone interesting on a restart but it wasn't interesting race monza was ordering but the effect they have on the actual grand prix gets real interesting if you take it as that sort of whole you're like.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:01 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"They'll veto biography ridge the edge of greatness that came out in two thousand seven. It's a full kind of analysis with lot of input from the people around him as to how we operated and how he was so successful. I think that's a really important part of the of the story that that's not to be underestimated and john. You knew michael before would or at least you got his his signature very very early. When you're a motor sport fan. What was he. What was he competing in. Then i think this is before i worked in formula. One thing i'll still maybe scolding levels At konta silverstein we had about this All read about this hotshot kid coming up called michael she mike who's driving sports cars for mercedes and I went to the sports car race. Civil managed to get his autograph. So just in the united probably. He was pretty much unknown. At the time i remember. It's between the the two products that silverstein Still in office somewhere. Mice my old autograph book. I think it's the same weekend. Ross brooms autograph as well. When he was yes they come they came. Give it but Yes we someone that. I was You know where all even before he got to form the one just having read about it. At the time there was also quite amusing. Bit in the film where Villalba mentioned talking to eddie jordan about 'em after cashew had been taken out because of the incident london was in jail needed. The driver video says you need to take michael educators. Who who is. He never been always one mccowan fuji and all this sort of thing then it flicks to a video. Very jordan saying are overseas. You know. I've always bring up good talent. I followed him throughout formula. Three was quite a good little whereas done on purpose or not. No quite funny little juxtaposition or i think that's a bit of a wind up by willi weber. There's no way to eddie jordan. Didn't know who. Michael schumacher was at that point. Because as you said he'd won mccowan very controversial as well because hacking had crashed. Well hacking crashed in a wheel-to-wheel dice. at macau. it was everybody was talking about that. It was everywhere it was. And then i was actually at the mall that year when he was driving mercedes and that was i was. I'd never seen him in. The flesh before racing obviously was aware of what happened in macau but go in. That mercedes and i was out on the course i was like who is driving that car because it was absolutely flying. It was it was. Oh chewbacca and then when. I watched him very carefully. What's the laptops very carefully throughout the race. And whenever he got in the car he was just faster than the other guys he was more consistent and it was just like this. This guy's really got something special and ross brawn not in this film but generally has talked about because he was racing against michael at that time. That's when he. I really got to understand these capabilities. Because he was in charge of of jack uwe and he was like whenever michael was in the car. We had to have a different strategy from the rest of the drive. 'cause he was just so much better than they were and that was when he really locked into the fact that you know That she mce was something special. So i think you know. I think that's i think that that that comes through really really closely really kathleen in the in the film already clearly but what i was going to say about the point earlier as well as that is that you mentioned about the the fire going out in my experience racing drivers to get towards the end of the career this he goes one of two ways. It's really binary. They either aunt as good as they used to be their reactions ounces goods and they fade out but not necessarily willingly a now. You're thinking about people like nigel mansell. Who never really kind of officially announced he'd retired and this bunch of other people you can think of all the fire goes out and they don't do it anymore. Nikki louder damon hill gerhard. Berger people like that just no you know and my dad was a racing driver and his fine ever went out so i know what i'm talking about and michael's fine i went out and that's one of the reasons why he threw himself out of airplanes with such frequency as a skydiver. And it's one of the reasons why. I took a lot of chances and sadly i think probably led to the accident ultimately did he had because he was he was a dead devil. I want to talk about two final things before we before we wrap up firstly. If you love formula one you'll love this in terms of you know whatever you hear a story being told about greats whether it is A great jewel a great battle. There's going to be a movie made or netflix documentary as a as a as a formula one fan. You're saying. I hope they get it right because formula one fans understand what netflix do with dr to survive. But those that follow you know. The chronology of a season will watching. That didn't even happen at that weekend. But you know it's for entertainment. Do want to say that there is. They have got so much race footage. It doesn't it's not hung on on it but there's a lot of home video footage in moore's well but there's a lot of race footage i think for me to one fans will love this. I do want to just kind of finish off. James and talk about the. The story does come up to date. They do talk about his accidents and they all very honest. They don't talk about his current condition. You know the closest we get. I think is you know john taught occasionally over the last couple of years once or twice has given up an a very small update. So they don't go into his current condition but they do bring the story up to date. You think that was important that they didn't shy away from that is it's an enormously hard to tell that story. Yeah fundamental i mean and also towards the end of the film his wife says you know he's he's he's he's here but he's different on different but here's why she phrases. I think which got picked up a bit and the press last week when the when. The previews of the film dotted coming out. And that's as much as they as they as they want to say. Another said that the beginning of this recording you know the question. I get asked. The most often is how he's michael schumacher. What's what's his condition. And it's the question that millions and millions of people around the world won't to know and and you know it's interesting how the perceptions of him of changed you know from. I'm sure a lot of people who didn't like him when he was racing and didn't like some of the things that he did are now very sympathetic to him. An have a soft spot for him. And i can assure anyone listening to this. That when you watch this film you will have more of a soft spot for michael even more of a soft but when you watch this film than than going into it because It just shows. It shows the michael that i'm not claimed to have known him like incredibly. Well i worked. I covered his entire career oversee. He was informant one already when he started. I had a lot to do with him. Identity many times spent quite a bit of time behind the scenes or them as well us including working on two books So the the michaeline new is reflected extremely well in this film And i'm sure there's lots of other sides to him You know. I never did any of the wild partying or anything. That's kinda referred to but i. I've talked to david. Ku thought about it who did a lot of that and he said it was. It was a lot of fun and that is kind of reflected in there but anyway the michaeline is very well reflected in this film. Well thank you so much for your time today guys. We got to see that before it was released but is out now. And we'd love to hear from you.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

08:21 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"We bought one one seconds qualifying at the twenty two nd. Two italian gregory beating max staffan with lewis hamilton fifth after making a poor start from among side us down robotic finished third mclaren ahead of his teammate landowners who kept hamilton at bay for the duration of the race which was disrupted by a fast lap crash for twenty months of winter. Pa ouseley ghazi. Briefy fit the mccaren of down. Your ricardo damaged his front wing as a result which went underneath his front wheels causing him to shoot off into the gravel. The crash about the safety car and ask as these call was recovered a clash between iki snow to number but cubits so usa came about the race restarted on that four of eighteen with batas romping to one point six second lead over verstappen with hamilton chasing. The two mclarens both tie as fast as the mediums of the cheerleaders. On the second mercedes recorded came home fourteen point five seconds behind the winner with norris keeping hamilton behind him who at times was even sliding around dramatically shall lead time. His ferrari teammate call assigned in sixth and seventh the former recovering from feeding on while at the end of f. b. two scientists ferrari had been rebuilt off his heavy f. b. to crash came highway started ahead of antonucci of nazi. The affirmation drive ahead of the charging such a paris to finish with the red bull. Dr having to make a couple of attempts to pause after martin's launch drove for that position. That's the top ten and the result means that stop. it will start sunday's grand prix it from the front of the grade with ricardo alongside him on the front row as batas will drop to the back of the field fatiguing afresh mercedes engine before qualifying on friday. Alex kalinowka is back to join me in chats about today's action. Alex corpulence were in the paddock earlier. But how are you finding the second sprint weekend of the season. You high ariana and heights the listeners. Yes it was good to chat in the in the product early on sale. Now back at my hotel having having yet over decompress after considering the second as formula sprint race. And yeah i mean it was the silverstone one who's particularly new and we go out go to judge everything for the whole weekend to finish before we can really say if it was a success or failure or it was just a little bit more interesting because it was lewis hamilton. An extra stop going hammer and tong. The front you not necessarily of action at silverstone but they were chasing each other pre closely stays just fell a bit met has not very very analysis or grump reedited wealthy but it just thoughts. This'll of the vibe of conference. Today i mean everybody really except for fouts bought ask but then he's already vein because he's he's gonna have the actual accolade of Of topping qualifying on friday. I'm winning spent been raced not recognized by the history books because of this ridiculous. And i will continue to this into. Hopefully it's changed which it might be. Jonathan neighbor colleague might support dot com spoke to ross brawn early on in the week. And i said yet. We hear people's frustration about the sprint race Sorry the driver topping qualifying on friday. Not getting the post that we hear that. Maybe that's something. They're look at changing says goods. Let's keep up the pressure if we can but yeah that's kind of what i'm feeding off the seconds but my sister not very much happened. Doesn't we talk about well. These calls are designed to you know to be competitive in nineteen minutes review if you just stopped the race before the first pit. Stop you expect you to be much action. particularly there's no chaos at the first corner was the safety car and you know what would have helped things ties. And under his stretch particularly the run starting in the mclaren. Say yeah. I think I think there's generally a feeling of more negatively towards it than there was a silverstein chesting very very interesting there now. Let's talk about the process day and as you said. He banked himself by himself slot yesterday in qualifying kept onto it today for the sprint but is going strip. Wait down because of changing engine. But it's been a really solid weekend for him and is sought to shame. The is not going to be able to convert on the race on sunday. I mean unless well who knows what could happen but at the moment is unlikely that know be able to bring heim victory as well. He's doing well though. We spoke yesterday with john as well. It seems like maybe the pressure on saturday of your future so of lifting off. Have you heard anything from him since the f. one sprint about why he is feeding say comfortable this weekend and so confident on the track. He didn't really touch on in the in the post race. Press cameras and i will call race because is a race or fao. Not sorry in fact gedeon when you touch on in the press conference but nba hd. I saw her colleague jess mcfadden. Tweet this is peak boundary. Batas astor to have been doing an amazing weekend and yet will get nothing from it. So far in this can come through and deliver an amazing result in the race tomorrow and i will say is. I spoke to mercedes earlier on today and they did confirm that he did get a heated. Get a an a A genuine performance at benefit from taking that new engine and bearing mind it was less than a tenth of a second the gap between himself and his teammate lewis hamilton in qualifying yesterday so while the team you know they weren't going to be putting an exact figure on it both has definitely benefited from from what happened there from from taking that that fresh engine however he still he's still delivered it he sportsperson. You can only play the circumstances in front of you really especially things like In qualifying and the race and so you and put us nowadays so absolutely fascinated him. Well done it's just going to be. I just faith what might happen tomorrow. In terms of we saw last year when he was down the order in that crazy. Italian grand prix. He didn't make any progress. There was able to and that was when they both had a massive car advantage over the rest of the field so as we saw. We've we've learned how much my sleigh after each back from his post as you said. Ariana couldn't get lenore soap. Not i think it's a slam dunk. That mercedes is going to make massive ground up tomorrow. Let's stay on the mercedes topic before we get to how they might fed. Tomorrow we dig into that but deepa lewis start today. What's happened now. What what went wrong. Because it was quite a poor start from him of course dropping right back down. The order losing that advanced. He had starting the p. To a lot people saying before you know given the bosses going to be dropping down the order anyway puts lewis in such a strong position on the team in quieter quite favorable position in terms of how they could play the sprint today. But lewis's star just really let him down. I guess he certainly did. It certainly did ambato st so of hints. That team orders were effective. Your mccarthy said possibly we would have done the swap because of the obvious situation bearing a referring to hamilton being in the top. Five max or stopping in the drivers championship. But yeah we've with. Winston stop basically said he was He was two millimeters too deep with the clutch padres es mistake of releasing higgins targets on the clutch. And it just goes we will spend you know. He launched okay. Attraction was was there seems to be but as soon as as soon as it came to to the it's been in the later phases. That's really what cost him and he was on the back for immediately at at this web. Of course some really Defend hard but fair against the landowners. Then he's got swamped ricardo. Who's coming by the starting mcgowan on the other side. Gase got by him as well So yeah i mean it could have been even worse. Radio you constantly doesn't enforce just tap. The left retire of avocados mclaren and break his front wing. Housing could well have ended up behind him. I may have got urban with get back by the. Yeah definitely as you said. We saw him defending a hard but fair against the cause around him. Do you think that in that position that he was in a part of him. It was probably thinking. Don't don't do anything to radical. Because of course you don't wanna risk damage getting coop. Any scraps expected to play a little bit safe. When you do have about solve star so that you can line up you know. People five as opposed to at the very back of the packing unit crashing out. Do you think any even goes into the drive as minds on a sprint. Light day or do you think as soon as is lights out that satan. And they're fighting that he go. I think we'd hamilton. Today was more than he had any other choice or anything there was. There was anything he could do. Just because of the nature of that rundown. Someone's i've been..

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

Past Gas

03:30 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

"Silver mercedes. Cars got a red helmet especially confusing because mercedes was on the grid at the same time as mercedes mclaren which is mclaren. Yes so this. This time period. Even though it wasn't too successful for schumacher was laying the groundwork for Lewis to pretty much go on is absolutely dominating. Run as we've seen in the past almost ten years now did he did. He helped develop the car that lose drove i. I'm not sure because the rule change came in in two thousand fourteen with the The hybrid cars and Speaking of which Hamilton made the switch from the mercedes mclaren team where he had won two titles and then jumped into the mercedes grand prix team which is now the proper mercedes team right now so. I'm not sure if it's the car itself was developed james because the car has also gone through many iterations over the past decade but like just probably the groundwork for the the the team workflows and everything like that driver development. Also the braun. Gp was the team that became this team. I believe yeah. Yeah so i mean ross brawn really laid the groundwork as well it was ross brawn and schumacher fat bastard. Yeah let laying the groundwork for lewis's historic run that we're seeing right now. We'll be right back with more of this story. But first word from our sponsor my name is trade kennedy. I'm a comedian and content creator and my podcast correct opinions as the weekly comedy. Podcast you need hosted by myself and alongside my co host. Jay triplet is my name and he are correct opinions. We talk all things comedy. From our viral videos to us performance stand up across the country to roasting anyone and everyone across social media. We have the correct opinions when it comes to stupid gender of emails or over the top crazy white baby names or whatever. New trend is annoying us that week. You should subscribe to correct opinions. Free to list of subscribes to podger show. Go now subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts to the correct opinions podcast. Thanks to upstart for sponsoring this episode. If you dread looking at your credit card statements you're not alone. Debt can feel crippling but upstart can help again path to financial freedom. I know a debt feels. Like and i know how freeing it can feel to get some help and upstart can do that for you. Upstart is fast easy way to pay off your debt with a personal loan all online rather paying credit cards solid. I understand or funding personal expenses over half a million people used upstart to get one fixed. Monthly payments upstart knows. You're more than just your credit score and of expanding access to affordable credit unlike other lenders upstart considered your income current employment to find you a smarter rate for your loan. I like upstart because it's super easy to use and you don't need great credit to get started find out. How upstart can lower your monthly payments. Today when you go to upstart dot com slash gas that's upstart dot com slash gas. Don't forget to use are you are l. Let them know we sent you. Loan amounts will be determined based on your credit income and certain other information provided new loan allegation.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

Past Gas

07:56 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

"Take this quote from ross brawn. For example is she marco was quite a misunderstood cannock. Back i don't know if inside. He liked the impression he created because he was an intimidating character but personally he was the opposite valley charming and very very sweet little personal puppy us one of the softest boys i ever knew weirs fat bastard running this huge studio. I don't know i wouldn't. Maybe he's in one of our many many toilets. Our studio has eighteen bathrooms for flushing constantly. We have to watch according to sabine chem away from the track. Michael laid back relaxed guy. He's much less of a perfectionist. He's patient he's devoted to his family and as a sense of man on the track he is an absolute fighter. But that is more or less gone soon as he gets out of the car by the time. Nineteen ninety seven rolled around. Ferrari was a great to win. Its first drivers championship in eighteen years. Schumacher and jacques. Vilna of williams were in direct competition with vilna leading the way in the early part of the season however schumacher took the championship lead by mid season and entered the spanish grand prix. The final of the season with a one point advantage. Does this sound familiar. Unfortunately towards the end of the spanish grand prix schumacher's car suffered a coolant leak and it seemed like he'd have to retire. The as villneuve attempted to pass schumacher. The german attempted to provoke an accident but ended up spinning out as his rival drove on to finish third. The faa determined that schumacher deliberately tried to ram villneuve. And he was disqualified from the driver's championship. So i mean there's a lot of similarities between him and max because max very competitive and you know kind of blurs the line between What's legal or what he needs to do at that moment to be. I you know. Max hasn't been found guilty of trying to ram anybody compilation shukri. I would still say the more competitive of the two guys but also the perception that we have of these drivers Also fueled a lot by the british commentary on the races. You know they're very you know they're going to support their their guy. Years is maybe years is oh. Is joe watching. Spanish dubbed commentary or cheap project. I'm talking about myself. I don't even watch the races. These are based on my personal relationships with all these men party with these dudes. May i party with these guys. Yeah i know. I've seen the real maxx shopping. Yeah i feel like max gets to your house party. And then he's like a simulator over there. I'm going to go like chat. Oh for sure. That's he's that guy. Got to describe. Max chapman right. Yeah greedy gets owe greedy guts. Whoa yeah what does he eats. All the snacks here for me. A stack cheese plate. Here comes old greedy got. We'll get back more pass gas right now. Monsters big thanks to valvoline for sponsoring this episode. 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So you don't have to see anyone on camera if you don't want you don't have to wait waiting room. It's much more affordable than in person. Therapy can start communicating with your therapist in under forty eight hours unload the stressors and get some unbiased feedback and even pretty surprised at what you might gain from it. See if it's for you. This podcast is sponsored by better help and pass gas by donut media listeners. Get ten percent off their first month at better help dot com slash pass gas. That's b. e. t. t. e. r. h. e. l. p. dot com slash. Pass gas. think you better health. In one thousand nine hundred eight schumacher nearly his title but lost out in the final two races. To mclaren's mika hakkinen then in one thousand nine hundred nine schumacher losses chance to win the driver's championship at the british grand prix. When his car's rear brake failed incentive. Careening off the track. He suffered a broken leg and was out of the driver's seat for ninety eight days but came back for the malaysian grand prix and qualified on pole position by nearly a second. My goodness mika hakkinen. The opponent schumacher supposedly respected. The most ended up winning the drivers championship that year. However largely due to schumacher's help ferrari finally clinched. Its first constructors championship. In sixteen years. We could dig into schumacher's remaining for our years deeply to save some time. We'll just say that. From two thousand two thousand four schumacher won more races and championships than any other driver in history of the sport until lewis. Hamilton beat his record in twenty twenty. Here are some of the highlights. In two thousand he equaled the number of wins forty one by his former rival and hero airtran senna and broke down in tears that same year. He finally won his third championship. In two thousand and one schumacher took his fourth title. Some season highlights include the canadian grand prix where schumacher finished second to his brother. Ralph scoring the first ever one to finish by brothers in formula one schumacher also scored fifty second career win. During the.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

Past Gas

08:09 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on Past Gas

"Formula one k. Mccollum michael schumacher made his formula. One debo with the jordan ford team at the nineteen ninety one belgian grand prix. He is something for french driver. Bertrand gas show. Who is busy being in prison for road rage related incident. I want us in syria's if a french guy is getting arrested for road rage. I feel like that's pretty. Intense event schumacher didn't take his position lightly when his team was held up with contract negotiations wasn't able to take schumacher around the spouse circuit. The young german learned the track on his own by cycling around it on a bicycle that he brought with him from home. That is not. That's not an impressive feat because spas super hilly lot uphill. He impressed the paddock further by qualifying seventh in the race which led motor sports journalist. Joe soured to report that clumps of german journalists were talking about the best talent since stefan bowl off unfortunately during the race itself schumacher was forced to retire. The car on the first lap do the clutch problem. I mean that's super impressive. Because the jordan at that time was not a very good car. So i mean you get a young driver in a bad car. And he qualified seventh. Pretty damn good. That'd be like well let's say mix schumacher a michael schumacher son. Got the haas in the seventh. You know yeah that seems like impossible right now. following his debut and despite an agreement between jordan and schumacher's management that the driver would stay on the team for the remainder of the season schumacher was hired by bennington ford for the following race jordan was furious and fun injunction in the uk courts to prevent schumacher from driving. But hey they hadn't signed a final contract and lost the suit. Get it in writing. She micro finishes maiden year with four points from six races with his best. Finish a fifth-place. The italian grand prix on not bad at all nolan. That's right at the start of the nineteen hundred season schumacher finished third and took his place on the podium. For the first time in a mexican grand prix race is he then took his first official victory at the belgian grand prix in a wet race on what he would later call far and away his favourite track. That's something that Michael and i have in common spas my favorite f. one track. This would also set him up for his future. Nickname reagan my star or rain master. She muggy ended the nineteen ninety-two season in an impressive third placed in the drivers championship with fifty three points which is very very impressive for such a driver of the nineteen. Ninety-three was a decent year for the driver in which he had one win nine podium races. It wasn't until nineteen ninety-four that schumacher finally secured his driver's championship becoming the first german in history to do unfortunately as listeners at the podcast may remember from episode. Eighty three nine thousand nine hundred. Ninety four was particularly controversial year. There were allegations that several teams. The most importantly schumacher's benetton broke technical regulations more tragically role in ratzenberger and ayrton senna one of schumacher's greatest rivals and personal idol tragically died during the same marino grand prix and event schumacher witnessed from directly behind senate. She he probably because it didn't look that bad. He probably didn't until afterwards finally schumacher pulled an exceptionally controversial move. At the final race of the season. The title deciding australian grand prix. Williams damon hill was only one point behind schumacher going into the race and both were desperate to prove themselves. Michael was in the lead win hill finally saw away to pass him. He took the inside line into the corner but schumacher turned in and their cars collided. Schumacher spun out nearly flipping. The benetton and hill was forced to retire car. If this sounds familiar pretty much the same thing happened. This year at silverstone between mattress tap in ann lewis hamilton. If like social media was around at the time of this incident between schumacher and hill. Yeah i think it would have been even more inflammatory. This is like one of the most controversial moments in f one history. Here as i've never seen video this is it look like schumacher is definitely in the wrong. Or what. it's pretty hanky man pretty hanky panky. Yeah yeah michael schumacher. It would have been a huge story that michael schumacher on follow damon hill on twitter. What is what is hinky mean. Hanky like what does that mean. Jody she i think like it's a pretty old-timey word. Non probably learned it from his grandpa or something. Yeah i when. I had a lucid dream last night where i had a conversation with my grandpa back in the old man mode. The definition is dishonest or suspect. He knew the guy was hinky. If you read huck finn. But during her day. So schumacher's ahead. He's probably about a second ahead of hill or two seconds ahead of hill but he goes off the track pulls back onto the track. Hill is obviously faster. But it's so deliberate that schumacher turns in front of hill. And in fact yeah he. Almost does flip has benetton and schumacher crashes into a tire barrier. So it's insane that he was even able to keep driving but he'll had to come in 'cause tired up some and they retired. The car tyrod also got bent. Pretty crazy pretty. Hanky that says that some hinky stuff Schumacher won his first title. But too many. It didn't feel like a clean. Victory felt like hinky one nice determined to prove himself. Once more schumacher entered the nineteen ninety. Five season with a specific kind of termination. He again absolutely crossed. The competition specifically into wet drives in belgium and hungary and by the end of the season after nine first place wins schumacher claimed his second driver's championship. And this time it wasn't he goes wet. Though it was in one thousand. Nine hundred ninety six schumacher joined full-body who hadn't won the drivers championship since nineteen seventy nine and the constructors championship. Since one thousand nine hundred eighty three michael said he left bennington due to their actions in one thousand nine hundred ninety four but i bet a contract at salary of sixty million dollars over two years didn't hurt either. Though many doubted ferrari to the extent that their pit crews were running. Joke on the paddock schumacher declared the ferrari. four twelve. T was good enough to win the championship. And you know what guys he almost did. He finished the season in third for the drivers championship and help for clinched second place in the constructors championship knowing schumacher along with ross brawn. Rory byrne and john taught have been credited with transforming the ferrari team most people who worked with schumacher echo. The same sentiment schumacher was extremely popular on the paddock and it seemed to possess an innate ability to galvanize the team around him although he was considered stern and a bit cold interviews so german was known for being a kind and thoughtful teammate..

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:29 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"We'll touch on earlier in the in the show. When i was talking about this this this sprint qualifying give us some of those narratives that we had approached this weekend with in terms of potential concerns for it because this depending on. If you're a red bull funnel peres being out of action. Basically tomorrow for red bull is potentially advantage dis right. So red bull need peres up the fighting with with max and now he's completely. Ns useless to them essentially. So is that a good thing. Is it gonna swing the championship. Back towards mercedes at lisa rebelled. Don't run away from it. Would we then see that as a bit of a well. At least that's change things or is it unfair because although sergio did qualify technically out position we would argue it. He could've could've been more used to rebel tomorrow. And therefore maybe we had a a a a proposal between mercedes and red bull. So i guess it's all of these things that we're gonna say. What is that a good thing or is it a bad thing and i guess it does depend on whether what side of the title fight you sit on in terms of who you want to say out there in the front. I can visualize when ross brawn is very clever. People have have a debrief about sprint qualifying. They're to view the fact that it ended with the driver in arguably the fastest car on the grid starting the race at the back of the grid. He'll take that as a net win wind. Say it's it's it's ka ching basically bars walnut concerned but the sprint qualifying has tabs an effect on the shape of the rest of the grand prix. We can now. Alex and i before we sat down to recall this talking about how alex it's affected quite a lot about how you approach grand prix weekend. Let you would normally be looking at the long. He'd be crunching the numbers from the long runs and fpu to to work out. Who is actually the quickest car in rice trim. You would present that in your friday evening. Wrap up on autosport plus and them as some of the jobs of f. b. two is being rented a slightly pointless session. Obviously the people who've paid to come here this week and watch formula one. Cars go round might not agree but from the point of view. You're trying to work out. Who was on what fuel load. Who is actually quick. What was actually going on eight. It was a little bit of a nonsense. Wasn't that was a ship went out. I have done number crunching just between them. Mercedes and report stage because he's just pretty pointless working out the all the all the whole order if that makes sense but we want to know what's going to happen in the fight the front we want. I think we we did learn something. From f- pizza. I decided this gestion was the ripple maybe focused a little bit overpaying for sprint race. More than mercedes which meant mercedes looking more towards the guam pray without gave them and the times do suggest that mercedes have a slight edge on the long run pace and that's extending things don't know my favorite word caveats apply these things. And but yeah. I i think i would miss f. b. to if it were gonna as the at silverstone would miss that as well but But yeah. I mean yeah. He's my friday. Features has become a sunday feature. We're going come plus today but Yeah headlines these funds. On saturday night jess from from your point of view i turn away you watching sprint qualifying. Not rice rice. But what what. What did you make of it in terms of sort talking absolutely. It's where done where you're watching f. P. two from rather. But i was always wandering around the outside of the circuit try. She finds a spot of fence. That was already occupied by someone. Else is being a pretty full house this week and hasn't say but i couldn't work out. What was going on from trackside. I was just enjoying watching formula guy by it was bridged brave. I hope really wasn't it was just a great exp- like challenges to to see 'cause on track and grab some footage of them Yeah i was actually very lucky enough. I was on the inside of stove for b. to taking some snaps. And so yeah. I mean that was enjoyable but genuinely think it's also because of the change in times of vulgar sessions. I've had to remind myself when everything's happening a million times and we've had we had that we'd into majorie period of just like ours passing and nothing happening in as having not obviously nothing to do but just it being extended and i don't know if that added to the tension before we saw spring qualifying but yeah it's been quite a strange one. We've had to kind of scene of fans on twitter. Having meeting constant reminding about where are we. What are we doing. what's what time are we on. And obviously one thing. That's been a bit of a shame. I've seen of australian fans going. There is no way. We're watching anything this weekend because everything's happening at three in the morning Because of the change in time so that that's quite it's quite an one. It's felt very alien alien and idea. I don't know how you found it in terms of your usual approach to weekends. But it's kind of throwing everything up in which i guess maybe is put you on your toes alex. I don't know maybe it's major think differently about formula. One discerning has definitely on friday. I felt the closest. I've ever felt being formula one driver which is not very close it. So let's face it. My driving parking's car so i can't comment on that. I kept very stressed leaks me yet. Only because i have to go trackside trackside in this race. Because of the kobe bubby congo probably trackside after which is watching from inside of club and just as young reflecting the magazine. What the flavor of the the weekend was you know the atmosphere things and also what caused that trackside and did like nfc one at least the ferrari particularly struggling although they go off ties on anyway. What that meant was because of the ultimate we can timetable. I hadn't been watching. The coverage are hadn't been writing practice report. so i went into qualifying undercooked. Many approach bed. How moton not position right yet. Get back if it's undercooked. Just put it back in the. That's what i saw. When i seven years in the catering industry stuff ministry. I think that's a great place to leave it. So we can let august syrian the gp racing fan village. Get back to their drinks and back to their dr to sky sports. One on the big screen. Perhaps ted kravitz. I'm watching him still wandering around talking extemporaneously into the cameras. Channeling keith floyd site listening. Thanks for listening to the many listeners. To the podcast online and around the world. Thank you jeff. Mcfadden for joining us and sharing your insights. Thank you very much for having me. I'm glad i could make it on time because the traffic is awful. And thank you alex catalog. Because you can now emerge you can sanitize you can wipe down your microphone. You can wipe down your head and you can emerge from behind your cash in number.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:52 min | 1 year ago

"ross brawn" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"It isn't it's kind of two steps forward. Two steps backers. Another a song went back in the day. I i loved. I is years ago when alex was heist. The podcast this sort of thing would have ended up on the floor but so brightly. Sorry that's not gonna make the the the alonso battling with ricardo in particular was spectacular. Because obviously dan made what you might call slightly heavy weather getting past him compared with landau and then once he did get past him and i was right back at him and that was proper racing. Wasn't it that was that was more spectacular than we've seen quite a while actually was. Yeah i mean. There was no consideration for preserving the ties. Just he was great. It was really a real battle from from ricardo. you know he. he overtook. Lonzo is like differently town nourish that it was started a village. And as you say alonzo bow back but yeah what what tremendously race there. But i did think. I think lonzo touch atop naughty. Depending i did have a word towards the end of the race. I was going to say. I was quite shocked that we didn't get. What's it called on the screen. It'll graphic popping up say this is being looked at because it was just i. I laughed because it was genuinely funny. The length to which he was weaving and how much he was weaving iras like this. We is he. Does he know what he's doing. Of course he knows what he's doing he's manda also but yeah it was it. Was that battle for me. Was the entire highlight of the entire of the sprint race. Spring qualifying saw. I'm gonna hold off. I can already feel like out giving me dacca's according to their own thing. I do but yeah it was. It was amazing. it was great to see. I think that's what i mean about. You know don ricardo is one of the drivers is we've we bring up regularly the season for not being able to keep on his teammate. Who is having probably one of the best seasons of all the drivers on the on the grid. At least the most consistent and It gives him another show on your kado as an amazing driver. So in that respect. It's it's it's great for those drivers but yeah it was it was it was amazing to see even if it was a little naughty. The it's been interesting to see the response to the drivers not being uniformly positive. Some drivers have been quite critical of the sprint qualifying. Full matt sebastian battles sides. It shouldn't determine snapping even even after winning that sprint qualifying race race sprint qualifying. Whatever we're going to call it This particular tom around the houses He's still negative amounts. Louis was pretty positive. So i mean. Is this the case alex. That more data is required. The drive needs to get get more definitely. And i also think that getting a sense of just watching the sky if one interview ahead of ahead of this recording outside on the big screen and ross brawn seems to be suggesting all where we could still change things. I really really hope that extends to changing the pole position record officials statistic because it's an absolute travesty. The lewis hamilton does not have pole position for the british grand prix in terms of the statistic because dot qualifying session on friday night was brilliant and he performed exceptionally well. Taken advantage of mac. Happen being on. I would get temperature into his front is so if all things can be tweaked and maybe that will help the drivers. Maybe a veteran. He's a he's a he's a big fan of the traditions of formula. One's things that maybe that make the more positive about that. So yeah that's just keep people while you paint on things a banging on about things that are pointless and blah blah blah statistics and. You're already problems. And whatever important these things and people do care about. And i think formula one i think it was just as the wanna have trade sanctions between this. Spring breaks guam. Pray if we keep banging the drum some positive comes from maybe the drivers these these same. There's little things that they don't like if that critical helps us stories and all magazines are websites. And maybe they'll get what they was. Well the it is a very interesting subject. The statistical thing isn't it because obviously the way we look pole position as it is the ultimate expression of the guy who is the fastest driver on the day but oversee that the you know there are some quite loud voices social media and presumably in the paddock as well Expressing opinions as they do who say that well actually. It's the fifa who decide. Who's on pole position when they on sunday morning. Sand the literally my lout saying who's i want the actual starting grizz so it is actually possible to qualify on pole but then lose three positions because penalty or something. I'm so where we with. This discussion is is now a pointless piece of hair-splitting. Do we think to say the faa pole position is interesting. Isn't it because it has made us think. Oh actually who does decide what paul means. It doesn't mean the fastest driver over one lap or does it mean the driver who starts the race from sunday. And obviously there's two very distinct camps it shows it was. Alex is saying these statistics. All very important to the history is is how we tried to refer back to previous drivers and try and find some semblance of continuity or being able to compact because obviously as human beings. We're obsessed with herring and comparisons between eras and drive is. Is there a great civil time and ordinarily the first thing that we tend to when we're trying to decide great civil time argument which. I'm not sure there should be a graceful time if i'm saying my piece but that's not what this is about. That is the number one thing we tendency right like we say statistically lewis hamilton is the most successful foreign drive review time that is an important part of formula. One formula one's makeup. So i guess to then say turn around and go will actually it's the faa who decides position anyway and therefore whomever starts from the suspend a sprint qualifying all a more traditional qualifying. Former then. i don't know it loses. Some of its romance doesn't it. And i think that's what's really important for me for me. Formula one is a very emotional Racing series. I mean mode. Sport in general is a very emotive historical.

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"ross brawn" Discussed on Shift+F1

"Maybe hey can i make a prediction base of rob judge russell gets in the top tad but doesn't get points 'cause they don't give points. It's priceless oh man i do want to push back on one thing. You said danny a before the liberty media days. They would try stuff but they wouldn't tell anybody or ask anyone's opinion it was just bernie would just say hey. We're changing qualifying. It sucks now enjoy and then they would wait for it to crater and then they would just change it back. Well i remember that big qualifying change was like the one was the first time in my memory of modern f one where they actually did even make that type of change. But when bernie had a good idea like let's host the track down midway race like time for bed and we should you know this was the moment where like you know you can tell the difference between a hack hawk and a handsaw let let you let him get out there with the guard knows and set up the slip and slide for f one. But we wouldn't do it. I'm still. I'm still there. I'm still there. Were okay when mother nature decides it's time to rain. Were all the years but when you know the fans on some sort of weird twitter poll decide when turned three gets a spray down. It's like to artificial. No we need to. We need to open the door for wacky races here. Well yeah and i think i bring that up just because i i like the way that if one is doing this all right we're gonna do. We're gonna try three and we're gonna see how it goes. And i believe ross brawn when he says that He the f. One managing director of motor sports says In this article from formula one itself quote. I'm not sure this format would be as successful at monaco. Were considering these weekends. Being grand slam events spread through the season so it is something different. I don't think it will go to the whole season. I think it will be a limited number of races but that is to be decided so if we do like half of the weekends are have sprint qualifying in them and the other hafer or traditional qualifying. Let's try it. I do agree though. Danny that this is going to be a complicating factor for new viewers. So i hope that it's it's easily explained though. You said you wash theo. That did not do so. Well god's yeah did. They put up. They put up. I think they. I think they did an explanation of sperm races. Maybe a few months back on the f- on the f. One youtube channel but you know chamber does a great video of course does but they put up a video on like maybe its seventy-second video on the youtube channel says explaining sprint races. Not explain for. I was like after seventy seconds. What the what the fuck that was designed by committee video where the just bad script so the whole comments were just like what i am. So hopefully we've done a better job of explaining although we didn't do it in seventy seconds. I'll link that link the chain bear of video as well. Some other tidbits here about how this weekend's going to go as we said qualifying we'll be soft tyres regular qualifying the q one q two q three which happened on friday. That will be soft tires. Only for sprint qualifying. You get to choose whatever you want. And you're not doing a pit so it's one set of tires for that and then you also get to choose whatever you want for the race so none of that q. Q. is the tie. The tiny said on that needs to be the race tightening. Or you get to start on whatever you want for the race as well sprint. Qualifying session will be one hundred kilometers. Which is again about a third of the race distance. There is no podium ceremony for the top three in sprint qualifying. But you the winner does get a trophy much like they do for pole position and a bottle of champagne to spray in their own bedroom. Right it's all sprint. Qualifying is i. They're really trying to downplay. This is not a race they don't call us sprint races. Call them sprint. Qualifying there is no anthem beforehand again. There's no podium. The teams also. I think we'll be allowed to spend above the cost cap to repair damage sustained in sprint qualifying. In addition f one is paying each team. Five hundred grand just for taking part in the sprint qualifying sessions. This year running costs. I know so that is sprint qualifying. They show scam to like no anthems but let the drivers pick walkout music. Whoever wins like you don't you. Don't get a podium ceremony. But they do the whole like reliever coming in the ninth. Where like a door opens and outcomes kimmy reichen like just imagine it. What's he got playing machines. Yeah yeah something did. I'm always surprised by like whenever they have walking music for like sports. People are always just pick the dumbest stupidest like stupid in like a not interesting way just like a song that gets them pumped like there's one guy exactly. There's there's one doodo called a tie. Vasa who i think. He's a kiwi. He m he was fighting this past weekend. He walked as to if you wanna be my lover of about this girl. He's like a heavyweight dude. Would like you know tattoos all over himself and he comes out like just like johnson to it and the whole face was like i was like. What isn't everyone. Do that so you can only do walk. That's if if it's going to be like some bars from the squared circle to the twisty bits of silverstone. Danny you wanna give us a quick rundown of this hallowed ground. Yeah there's a lot to take with the sprint. So i'm gonna keep this a brief ad from the squared circle to the tricky triangle as it were because of course no actually action the set the the the the british word for tricky the awkward the awkward triangle. Yes yes yes. It's severson which is an old oriented base which is why you have all these straits. It was three runways sort of typical old style. Military airports with the triangle of runways am said are all the planes crashed into each other and are taking off. I guess which is why you have parts of this track like the hanger. Straight for instance at a lotta. These traits are based on. I think the one between brooklyn's arenas also another one but anyway this. This is very complex. It is an eighteen turn clockwise track it has to drs zones in one in sexual one and one between sort of sector two and three right near the end or start the sector three but it's mostly defined by high speed corners. This is a track with a lot of straits in like three or four main streets but a lot of high speed corners between those straights which we generally don't get so tires by the end of the slop running. Pretty hauch at probably. The most famous part of this track is the maggots and begged beckett's sorry section of a twisty turns that are taken quite high speed quite high gears taken maggots ush probably in seventh and and beckett's is a couple of ships when you're exiting at the chapel but super super fast fast turns into fast straights means that there's lots of opportunities for people to not exit at in the sort of optimal way and then got caught on a straightaway and there are some low speed..

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