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How To Identify Opportunities At A Time Of Crisis...Like Now #816

Inside the Spa Business | Spa

04:19 min | 1 year ago

How To Identify Opportunities At A Time Of Crisis...Like Now #816

"How do you identify opportunities at a time of crisis like right now? Greetings from Bali just checked into the hotel a pretty empty plain on the way over and a fairly quiet airport here in Bali when I landed as people bunk down. I guess on the back of the corona virus and it's got me thinking about. How can we identify opportunities at a time of crisis like these and to me? There's three levels of opportunities that we can look at the first level. Is those people that are immediately impacted and affected. So how do we help those people? What does the opportunity in servicing them? The opportunity there is of course medical in the case of Corona virus so it's providing medicines medical facilities medical personnel. Now that makes it a fairly limited scope because unless you're in the medical profession or the medical facilities proficient. There's probably not a lot that you can do to help. And there's probably not a lot of opportunity for the next level gets brought when we talk about how to prevent people being impacted or affected. So that's when we start talking about products like face masks or sanitizing hand washes and these kinds of things and that's an interesting example where you've seen the best and the worst of people we've seen the people who are very mercenary about it going out buying up the supplies of face masks and hand gels and then selling them ridiculously mocked up prices but then we've also seen the good side of it. Which is people going out buying up the same products and then offering to offering them to emergency services personnel for free. So you know to me. It's not about identifying just a commercial opportunity or an altruistic opportunity. It's just identifying the opportunity. What you choose to do that opportunity is kind of up to you. The third level of opportunity I think is where the much bigger opportunity comes in is when you look at how. The behavior has changed as a result of the crisis. So in the case of the corona virus crisis the changing behaviors. People are staying indoors. Because we're being told to avoid contact with people who might be infected we don't know being affected and so as a result we tend to stay indoors and so that touches on an idea that I I mentioned a couple of days ago. This opportunity of helping people do X. At home if you can help people do anything in their harm. Then there's probably going to be a potential for a business day and in the case of my business which is spas in hotels. Wasting that people are less likely to come on down to the SPA FOR TREATMENT. Because they want to avoid that close contact with with people now a now case maybe offering treatments in the guest room is more likely to get a response than offering treatments in the spa because the perception is in my Hotel Room. I can control the environment on less likely to be infected or impacted by the people. Don't know if that's necessarily true or not. But I think the perception is going to be there so I think identifying the broader opportunity in terms of the change in behavior can get really really interesting so that to me. The three different levels of opportunities in the time of across those that are immediately impacted. It's helping those people helping other people. Avoid being impacted and affected and the third opportunity is looking at the change in behavior and seeing what goods and services and products that you can offer to those people in their changing behavior MoD might help them service another need so there. I think the opportunities and even if you're in a market that's not currently being impacted by the Corona Virus God's good graces. You won't be but You know there's always another crisis around the corner whether it's a phenomenon or a bushfire earthquake there's always crises around this and I think the better. We can look at identifying opportunities in a time of crisis bitter. We're able to look at applying that oil business and hopefully the insulate ourselves from the impact of it or perhaps identify other ways of the avenues that we can maybe go as a result of the crisis already that is for today. I do think it's on and I will be back again. Tomorrow stay safe.

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The Amber Room

Endless Thread

34:07 min | 1 year ago

The Amber Room

"Endless thread is supported by indeed. If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions and then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed indeed dot com slash N._p._R.. PODCAST and by xfinity some things are hard to control other. Things are easy like you're in Home Wifi with xfinity x y you can set a Wifi curfew change your password and create user profiles all with the x Fi app another reason why xfinity is simple easy awesome go online call one eight hundred xfinity or visit a store to learn more more restrictions apply where my parents at boy Oh boy do we have a podcast suggestion for you guys circle round. It's a children's storytelling podcast that adapts folktales for modern audiences beloved loved by the very young and the young at heart like Ben. Oh true I would listen to it. Even if I wasn't a dad. That is how much fun it is this month. Circle Round has a special pop up series was recorded live with an all star cast cast and musicians from the Grammy Winning Boston Symphony Orchestra so subscribed to circle round wherever you get your podcasts and join the fun produced by the I lab at W._V._U.. You are Boston emory. You have seen the original Jurassic Park movie right dinosaurs eat man woman inherits the earth clever a girl so emory. You obviously remember that part in the movie where there's this little educational video for visitors to Jurassic Park explaining how dinosaurs get brought to life in modern times using D._N._a.. From ancient mosquito blood <hes> yes a movie within the movie very Meta sometimes after biting the mosquito would land on a branch of a tree and get stuck in the sun after a long time the trees have we'll get hard and become fossilized just like a dinosaur bone preserving the mosquito inside. That's how you get amber and a whole adventure park full of deadly asked Dyno's heck yeah also Jurassic Park Doc was my first understanding of the idea that fossilized Tree Sap Aka Ember is rare and valuable but I had no idea that it was this valuable amber in the fine was golden the bank this is Adrian Levy who is not talking about the Jurassic period. He's talking about Eighteenth Century Europe. Levy is Kinda like a journalist version of Indiana Jones and I live in London or though I worked around the world as an investigative journalist and producer Asia gathering photographs and documents in many different countries so I can put together large scale historic investigations which much like broken plates when you try and piece bits together to make the whole I already not like this guy. I like how serious he is about his work too because we're about to ask Adrian to tell the story of one of the greatest unsolved art mysteries supposedly unsolved mysteries of all time it is a mystery that begins with an artistic feet so massive and innovative it took up an entire room of a palace in fact it was the room a room of amber. It's legendary and it's missing. Uh I'm member Johnson I'm Ameri Silverton and you're listening to endless thread. The show featuring stories found in the vast ecosystem of online communities called read it. We're coming to you from W._B._U.. Are Boston's N._p._R.. Station today's episode assode frozen in amber so if you're into art history you've probably heard about the amber room but we heard about it through read it. It's one of those stories that gets posted over and over. It's an unresolved mystery. Today I learned into fully explain why it is perennially posted. I think we should stay with this amber conversation permanent also we should talk about Prussia <hes> which is like one of those things that as dumb American I have very little point of reference for but pressure get started in the fifteen hundreds it is this kingdom and it eventually becomes the German Empire it includes depending on when you're taking a snapshot got a whole Chunk of Poland plus. What is now Germany also chunk of Denmark look like a lot of European history from the Middle Ages and the early modern period it is complicated but Prussia is also a so called great power meaning it has global influence and that influence comes not just from military might but also from great wealth Adria Levy says literally tons of this wealth was amber wealth? It was a representation of Prussian might be used and bought what'd for a number of monarchic missions that needs to be run say wow I had no idea that amber was like a form of cash. I guess I think it would be fair to say that. The wealth of that state was underpins by the royal monopoly. Really remember which both demonstrating Mites but also shrewdness in the United States as as with gold it's fungible easy to trade limited in supply and its value only ever rose part part of this value comes from scarcity but also from mythology. I'm had mystique in these cultures in the Prussian culture especially because of its ability to catch the past there was also a rumor about it having coned charge around static quality all right. I feel like I'm in a crystal shop. In twenty nine thousand nine. You're not but <hes> definitely a similar vibe amber special properties maybe so how did these Russians get at their piles and piles of amber piles and piles of ancient forest bits underwater lychee what amber fishermen waiting into rough seas of the Baltic on huge lines and drowning running and skipping off a wintry see and by the flaked off the seabed and risen to the surface so extraordinarily difficult was it to gain large quantities that anyone who possessed such consists themselves became powerful. It's like a kind of de Beers idea with diamonds. I'm it's creating a cartel around and extremely precious commodity. This mystique of course is not lost lost on the first King of Prussia Frederick. I Frederick is this decorated military leader who rises to lead this new global power and global powers have to demonstrate how powerful they are which is how we get to an entire room of the Prussian palace constructed out of amber this gemstone that shows up an Itty bitty little pieces at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. That's the plan at least and the conception of it was that if you stepped into a room made up this substance that never never been used architecture before now own broaches or in jewelry are the kinds of jewelry that the effect would be like stepping into a time machine a room plastered with an ancient sap suspended in which are insects and pulse of leaves and that guy by many millions of years so I really extraordinarily utilization of this material. I love this idea like I think of time. Machines may be more than the average person but I always think of them. As fancy technological feats I never think of a time machine as a room constructed of gemstones with organic matter frozen inside of them for thousands of years what a beautiful thought a beautiful thought it and also a tall order. It's GonNa take years to build this one room and not just because of the detailed work required but because Frederick's basically asking for this really unique collaboration of architects sculptors jewellers years and even some chemists to build this thing it required enormous amounts of pooling of mines to work out how to make amber not brittle how to make it manageable how to shape it into panels and frames and then suspended <hes> behind gold leaf so that <hes> it would twinkle on by candle lights. The room starts being planned at the end of the sixteen ninety s and it's not really finished until over a decade later in seventeen eleven and then it's installed in the Berlin City Palace Louis which is the beginning of things getting weird for this enormous piece of artwork pretty quickly after it's installed the guy who ordered the thing in the first place Frederick dies also the lead sculptor Andrea Schlueter. He has a bit of a rough the patch he builds a big tower on a bunch of sand and the tower collapses and his career is over. He's ruined it. Do be like that. Sometimes it do next king of Prussia Frederick the first successor Frederick Doc William not a big culture guy. He's like the eighteenth century version of a super jock. He's called the soldier king he does not care for this glowing baroque time machine made out of amber unless we're talking dollar signs technically weekly Reich stoller signs but you know what I mean but the amber room is more than just tons of gemstones with suspended organic matter in them backed by gold leaf and melted into wall panels to visitors who come through the palace in Berlin its jaw dropping hoping it gets called the eighth wonder of the world it's coveted by the rich and powerful including Peter the Great of Russia so Frederick William WHO's trying to secure packed with Peter the great he says you like it. Take get it was put into enormous number of crates and given the full transportation that was available at the time it was shipped by sledge caught and dragged. If you like all the way from pressure to Russia a totally normal thing to do take an entire palace room jewel encrusted in send it to Russia as a gift for it can rich people man. I bet they weren't the ones dragon the sleds through Europe seriously and this is the beginning of an epic saga. That's really the reason why we're still talking about the amber room today. This room is on a journey worthy of a real deal time machine a journey that will cover several transports and several tear downs and rebuilds over several hundred years if anything was made a never to be transported. It probably was the hamburger I mean the substances Brittle it requires. I've been kept at constant temperatures for an in order for its maturing. Hugh it's colors to be maintains that the room must not be too cold or too hot and I certainly think we came across one account that talks about the reaction of a courtier when they open the chest and there were many many many smash pieces over it's hundreds of years of existence the ember rooms whereabouts are followed by the people who covered it because it is beautiful the people who want to discover its final resting place when it gets lost lost and also people who want to use it for political gain wise the amber room so popular well to mice volleyball missing treasure so let's start with that that headlines pretty good but the pivotal moments of the story <hes> absolutely all in the east and they are in areas where information control is absolute areas where it's extremely hard as a investigates that will scholar to gain access to resources and so what you have instead <unk> status fun whispering campaign based on Phot- law Adrian Talks about this a lot the idea that the barriers to primary source accounts lots of the amber room have allowed it to become even more legendary than it might have otherwise and he should know because Adrian's done maybe the deepest dive on the Amber Room in the book the Amber Room fate of the world's greatest loss treasure written by him and his Co author and working partner Cathy Scott Clark who he says totally would have also talked to us except she was filming with a celebrated Award Winning Documentarian Whatever Kathy seriously though we are relying heavily on Caffeine Caffeine Adrian's work here they did hundreds of interviews and have chased the amber room to the ends of the Earth looking for a work of art with a worth that some estimates put at about half a billion dollars but back to the seventeen hundreds where the ember rooms journey was just getting started after getting it as a gift and having it dragged across Europe into Russia on a bunch of Sledge's Peter the great forgot about it freaking rich people man but it was eventually reinstalled decades is later in a palace near what's now called Saint Petersburg along with the challenge of handling with care while you are transporting via sledge. We have to remember that it's not that easy to just uninstall one palace rooms worth of decadent panels and reinstall it in a totally different palace. It's not like these palaces are standardized so amber room two point. Oh gets a bunch of additional amber thrown in bringing it close to six tons of amber which really complicates it's matters in a way but nonetheless the ember room is still adored by a number of curator's who care for this incredibly fragile beautiful now almost six hundred square foot work of art for a while until Adrian says the Ember Room finds itself at the center of a struggle that will have it moving again. A lot of Adrian's work is based around conflict and war in the amber room. Story is no different hundreds of years after it was brought to Russia the room moves chiefs again because of World War Two in the incursion of Nazis into Russia also the leadership of Russia at the time while they had bigger fish to fry than the amber room lot of problems at least ninety ninety nine problems and the amber room eight one at least not one they're worried about there's a fight for survival happening here but the curator's the people who know and love the value of this great wonder carrying about this stuff it's their work work and it became obvious to them. As Nazi Germany began to wrap up against the Soviet Union that's something would need to be done to protect these classes because there were no official directives that we're coming in and <hes> interestingly asked the threat rises of I am a Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union <hes> they the courageous off faced with exactly the same problem that everybody is being faced with. I'm through history with Ambro which is how to dismantle the crisis in the world and how to reassemble it and how to look at once. It's dismantled here we go again guys stopped taking it apart seriously but the good news of course is that these Russian amber loving curator's come up with a better your plan. They're going to hide it. Does it work more on that in a minute endless thread is supported by indeed when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting your shortlist qualified candidates fast with indeed post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsored jobs new users can try for free when you sign up at indeed dot com slash slash N._p._R.. PODCAST terms conditions and quality standards apply and the threat is sponsored by Xfinity. Some things are hard to control like over caffeinated co workers other things. Things are easy to control like you're in Home Wifi with Xfinity X. Y.. Set WIFI curfew change your password and create user profiles all with the Exi- APP another reason why Xfinity is simple easy awesome go online line call one eight hundred xfinity or visit a store to learn more restrictions apply. I'm trying to winter. I'm telling us a little long. Welcome to chosen family. Every second week we talk about art sexuality the identity with a special guest usually queer but not always I completely struggled coming out to my parents as a comedian being in the entertainment industry for a Middle Eastern people is unheard of affecting change requires people to shake it up. Listen to chosen family wherever you get your podcasts. What sign are you by the way I'm in the area? Of course I love it so we left off in Saint Petersburg then called Leningrad which is under siege by the Nazis. The siege is devastating starvation is everywhere. There's no heat the siege will last for years. It's eventually classified as a genocide an early on the curator's in charge of the amber room they think they're going to move it and and we know from a personal account kept by the League writes a young man could chew off. That's <hes> they tried the most basic things I'm getting a Nice Wall Street driver and placing it underneath a corner of the amber and trying to present off the backing board and we also know from his account that immediate he did that of course the amber shuttered rooms now would freezing cold and makes any curator freak out I would imagine reading some descriptions prescriptions of this tightly and I think you could wind back stage and think that you know the approach of placing that butter knife under the corner of the Ambon in itself was fraught but also the city of Leningrad was starving and there was not enough cash cash to feed people let alone East Room you can imagine the condition of the room was <hes> AH pulling throw into this situation a revelation of sorts before the war a bunch of German dignitaries visited the Ember Room and the Russians Shins realized that basically these dignitaries were making a list of the stuff that they were going to take when they took over the Russians needed to protect this thing the clock was ticking now they know that the press will be the heads if they cannot succeed and in spiriting away these these treasures to keep them safe from the Nazis so they come up with a cunning ruse which is to make another room on top of the room and kitchen moss idea idea is to take wanting calling fell wedding made from felt or sheepskin and put that up against extraordinarily brittle amber room and then cover the room in rolls of ooh that have been left behind from renovations years ago so bill the fake room inside the amber room to cover it up and hide it absolutely and I think given the fact that they had no idea how to solve the jigsaw puzzle. This was a shreve moves. It's again but but it's necessary because eventually the Nazis get to the palace and they knew exactly where to come so when they were confronted by the room within the room I'm sure initially and they were nonplussed by what they saw but really within a matter of hours someone had taken a ban at two that padding realized that the amber room was behind it and used a lot more brute force than could chew of the Russian curator was prepared to strip the amber room into boxes and transported it in a quite lengthy route to what was then called Kern expert on in the Baltic coast the Baltic coast close to the waters from whence the amber was fished in the first place full circle in a way and a feather in the hat for brutal German regime that was infamous for stealing the world's greatest works of art to dubious ends and so the amber room was now beneath the castle in German territory hidden from the World Ironically enough the same fortress where the to Frederick's at the beginning of our story the PRUSSIAN leader who brought it into the world and the one who sold it to Russia for Military Pact Act were crowned kings. The ember room was back home in a way even if the reasons were despicable and the storage didn't respect it's true glory but near the end of the war the castle is destroyed bombed by the allied forces shelled by the Russians. The castle is burnt to a crisp a ruined skeleton looking something maybe like a wall panel of the amber room itself with all the brittle amber shattered and blown out and it may be that this is what happened to the room to after all it was fragile and for a freaking palace room to be deconstructed and reconstructed over and over like a jigsaw puzzle that gets a little more beat up every time it's used the the amber room had a good run but there wasn't evidence of this destruction people say there just wasn't any shattered amber in the castle ruins. This is really where the trail of the amber room goes cold or maybe just gets confused like a bunch of different potential timelines because despite the destruction of the castle a lot of the foundations the deep basements of the structure where the amber room supposedly was stored survived which is the beginning of a gazillion theories about the. Ember Room surviving stories start popping up Adrian's heard and followed them. All such was its enormous value this some kind of <hes> <hes> James Bond Villain villainous impoverished cat sits on display in an underground cave. Maybe it's North Korea submerged in a flooded mine between Czechoslovakia and Germany <hes> you know there are endless stories are selling as some of them have an internal logic to them but nearly order them defy the armie material that is available Adrian points to the fascination with the amber room as a real problem because along with this explosion of potential true timelines for what happens to it after the war comes an explosion of people trying to capitalize on the mystery story like actual treasure hunters Arcnord. 's people who really want to recover this thing so we called partnered. WHO's trying to recover things quite busy trying to recover things in fact? You're GONNA ask away. This is Christopher. Hey Maranello. He's a lawyer and the C._E._O.. Of Art Recovery International Our specialty at art recovery international is recovering stolen and looted were spar Chris uses databases contacts in the art world and a boat load of lawyer know-how also general art history knowledge to chase things down that have been lost half of his work is pro bono because he says he wants to help museums churches and even in governments get back. Most people think that law enforcement is up to the task of recovering all the stolen artwork in the world. It's simply not true. Law Enforcement is underpaid understaffed and that's why organizations exist like Art Recovery International Chris has a specialty recovering artwork stolen by the Nazis Chris also gets a lot of creative tips. I'm staring at on my screen at a twenty eight page document that somebody sent me from Serbia today of artwork that they swear available everything from Davinci's to best yet. It's it's a collection of the most horrific fakes you've ever seen so we asked him. Has He ever heard of the ember room. I get approached by a lot of people about the amber room. Usually it's people who claim they know where it is at are looking for a finders finders fee from me or from someone else you know whenever I asked for a shred a shred of evidence. Nobody's able to come up with any Chris says he's never seen a lead not one that fully convinced him. He says they would have come forward by now. There was one thing that happened a break in the case so to speak in one thousand nine hundred seven these amber mosaics are discovered from the room. It was a huge news story at the time they were in the possession of a German soldiers family but Adrian says this trail doesn't go anywhere because the pieces are actually from when the room was disassembled in Saint Petersburg so they won't help people find the location of the rest in a way hey this proves one of the theories that in the chaos of the war some of the German soldiers might have made off with pieces of the Amber Room but unfortunately Adrian our real deal expert. He is not an optimist like at all. I think I'm the person go through the theories because I'm kind of feeling like they yet. The guy who killed Sansa are there any of of the crazy theories of its continued existence that resonate with you to any of these give you a tiny glimmer could be reflected in amber of all the theories for me a crazy in none of the music liver uh Adrian so Santa clauses dead. I'd love to be proved wrong I would. I'm not a hard hard hard. I'd like I'd like someone to find it to prove them wrong. But at the moment the primary history is not tilting in that direction at least he gave us at the moment and not tilting in that direction true and also this is where the ember room story gets even more interesting over and over the amber room and who possesses it is a demonstration of might the the whole history of this eighth. Wonder of the world is tangled up in hundreds of years of these power struggles according to Adrian the continuation of the mystery actually has a lot to do with continuing power struggles after World War Two <unk> ends. I think the end of nineteen forty five is pretty much one of the first visit by a curator assigned by K._G._B.. And there's a parallel inquiry that's made them but the stars he he was not the East German a secret place and so you have two masters of untruths Moss's propaganda who become involved but also to ruthless organizations and within those organizations you also have cultural truth. Tell US curator who themselves to get the bus in the story and you know if that truth does not match the political needs then <hes> one one sees what happens to these truth tellers and so starts an era where people trying to get to the truth. Truth of the ember rooms fate meet unfortunate fates of their own a story we know because again these organizations known for being dubious for Democracy are actually pretty great when it comes to bureaucracy documenting everything and in the first trunch of documents that came to line we see that the K._G._B.. And the Ministry of Culture had joint mission the mission sense an extremely capable investigator and archaeologists and if you've been working in Moscow he fought a report back to Moscow his conclusions were that it was likely the amber room was destroyed. Immediately submits that report and the report passes passes its way up towards Moscow reaching the inner circles of offer of governments. He is exiled is never forgiven. I'm for coming up with the answer to the question of where is now an object that is elevated by the K._G._B.. As Russia's greatest treasure even suppression treasure you know how people talk about how many instances of something equals at trend there are enough examples of bad things happening to people around the amber room that there is talk of a curse General Gustav Russian intelligence officer talks about it to a journalist killed in a car crash a former German soldier George Stein who has hunting for the artwork also dies unexpectedly in Bavarian forest. These things happened years years ago but obsession with the amber room and really strange political theater around it continues today with for instance the current leader of Russia Vladimir Putin and his eleven million dollar reconstruction of the ember room which appropriately also also took over a decade to finish twenty five years. Actually you know he might make great play of the fact that this this new one the had been resurrected as a memorial to the loss Russia's lost to Germany and one of the <hes> the key funders of the amber room and of the launch party was a German gas company that was looking for Egress into rushing business. The idea of opulence in excess being associated with wheeling and dealing in between the powerful and potentially corrupt is familiar right the room itself is <hes> is a massively Gordy. Almost <hes> plastic hated Nouveau Riche Footballer's Wife Life Nightmare. It's awful really it's it's amazing. How similar Putin and trump are when you really <hes> that room would be perfect and more log okay take issue with this comparison if you want but just for the record you know those pictures of President Trump's New York City penthouse with the gold toilet and all the gold leaf everywhere <hes> <hes> it's supposed to evoke the style of the palace of Versailles? It's all kind of got similar vibes right but digs on the nouveau riche aside the ember rooms legacy might have important lessons about negotiation between world powers so will the original amber room ever be found Adrian says no way it was almost definitely blown to smithereens in colonels Berg Castle but it's still being used not just for negotiation for manipulation so whenever the Germans complains the Russians would point to the amber room when anyone talks about loss they would use the amber room is the symbol of loss cultural loss financial lost the rape and pillage of palaces and cities and it became a resonant propagandistic tool in so what's not to love in this has a bit for everybody I think if you have a passion for history and a passion for seeing the way in which things become totems and those totems are then elevated in order to extract attract meaning then <hes> it's it's endlessly informing about how we live the times we live and the way in which all governments use these totems for their eye Maine's whether it be the savings or or be the study Ozzie so maybe the number room really is a kind of time machine of sorts making sure we remember history yeah and you don't have to have seen Jurassic Park to know that if you don't remember history you are doomed doomed to be torn to shreds by Gaggle of raptors endless. Threat is a production of W._B.. You are Boston's N._p._R.. Station in partnership with red it Josh Schwartz is our producer her and after looking at the pictures of the Amorim he classified it as designed Porn Iris Adler is our executive producer who says hidden information is still technically the truth mix and sound design by Paul vicous who believes that the amber room was built to watch people die inside Michael Pope is our advisor read it and he still thinks the simpsons did it extra production assistance from James Lindberg. Our interns are Magdala Mata Maggie sign and no Boston Austin with a beat on read it we our endless underscore thread. If you WANNA contribute art for an upcoming episode or give us a juicy story tip so we can tell it like we did today. It is up there my co host and producer Amorous Iverson. I'm senior producer and Co host Ben Brock Johnson. I'll let myself out support for.

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The Shade Room: Pros & Cons

The Nod

16:31 min | 4 months ago

The Shade Room: Pros & Cons

"Hey, y'all it's Britney and we are back again with a very special episode of our show the not with Britney Eric Today's episode is the first part of an earth shattering to part good for the blacks were we explored the pros and cons of one of the most controversial divisive yet addictive instagram accounts out there the shape. That's right. We're hashing it out with journalist and author George Johnson to find out if the shave room is good or bad for the blacks. We all know the shade room is where you go for top tier celebrity mess you being there lurking look I have learned from time to time but I think we can all agree that not all mess is goodness and the room plays great area a little too willingly at times trust me you're not the only one who feels that way and that's why today we're bringing the shade roll into the light is the shade room good for the Blacks GonNa find out this is the not. In a world filled with Daesh ously bountiful boss of headlines and videos that screen world saw the shave room has taken instagram by storm in two thousand fourteen Joachim. Wanda start at the shade room after realizing she can use her love for celebrity gossip to practice her writing. But after hating ten thousand followers you want to realize she was on something. Today, the Shade Room has over twenty million followers on instagram and features regular commentary from celebrities like the descent Nicki. menaj and Ti that last part is what makes the Shade Room truly unique outside of twitter it's pretty rare for celebrities and everyday people to have so many interactions with those blurred lines are also what makes the Shade Room? So controversial whether it's making Ziya, Wade owner of harmful comments or the legal back and forth with Cardi B. When it comes to boundaries, things can get ugly. So today we brought on journalist and author George. M Johnson to help us figure out if the Shane Room is good or bad for the culture. Thank you me. I'm excited. You know the showroom has built an empire. Moving celebrity gossip here's what's your take on the importance of celebrity gossip. Gossip. It kind of is what keeps your career going on social media wise. As media has shifted from red carpets to kind of step of house, you can kind of create your own `Paparazzi. Kylie Jenner. Day. The. Whole Light Brown skinned girl only. Even though it was big, it kept her name out there viability for twenty hours on. Sale somewhere absolutely down, I think that celebrity gossip in general is fun I. Think it just gives me something to think about. Everyday life especially, these days I'm like recently has gotten dark I will say. The thing that? Has To be say. For the most part, it can be fun. I think that there is a difference between having good fun and that exposing like the more vulnerable aspects of somebody's life four laps, all that being said, what's actually start our. Conversation today with the pros. So you our guest you welcome to start off with the pros at Oh i. Froze are that the platform very very large and When they are used for good, can generate a lot of money especially to light nonprofit organizations are community based organizations and especially small businesses. I think a lot times sites will amplify. Small black businesses or business owners were creating things and it literally opens you up to people to support your products i. think in ways when you utilize your platform to uplift. And encourage and support resources in things that are out there for black folks I think that's something that more of. These types of sites can start to do. Now that's the point I do wonder what percentage like if you actually did, what percentage of share on posts are act I kind of lean towards the lifted Maybe one out of every fifteen. Twenty. That's something I. Think if I'm considering what my pro is I think the showroom actually does what I consider a pretty exceptional jobs documenting how black people use the Internet, black folks have. In DEX on social media, you know we are on twitter. So much is referred to as black twitter. This thing that all kind of white corporate executives are trying to figure out and the share room kind of will break down those pieces before black people like I think about the the not obeying video that came out recently. Day aware she. Fucking Bang. Not A. wakeup talking about not obeying and I'm like what is going on and I knew that I can go to the shave room and it will break down who made it why popular all the means they had developed all around it and I think that actually can be a big service like I don't know of too many other places that are talking about. The way. Black people use the Internet and social media like the share room us. Come along with a whole lot of other stuff. Absolute. Auto. I think that this shade room is a reliable platform for black celebrity. A celebrity period is is celebrity gossip every single celebrity whether they want to admit it or not they benefit from the celebrity height machine and that gossip like gossip mechanism the shade room does is provide back black celebrities who are frequently shut out of your us. Weekly's people magazine's it's a place. Where you know a black celebrity knows that somebody is GonNa care who they are what they're doing whether they are selling Tommy T or in the case of the simone dry like usually I like to keep some of the scams but I can be some old was I can go on the find out but also Michelle Obama gives a speech at the Democratic National Convention. Even if I missed it. Yeah NPR. Have NBC. SHAVER. Remarks on that to the thirty years from now we look back. The Oscars, the grammys, the emmys, the institutions that don't frequently reward black talent. We might look back did not see an accurate reflection of what was happening in the culture, our culture at the time American culture at the time. But this Shade Room Shave is GonNa Habit accurate count black people the culture and shaver actually documents a wide variety of black people and I think that's a good thing. Archive of like everything going on black. That's a good point. It's an interesting slice. All right child that is off for the pros and for what it's worth I think we made some compelling points in the next episode clubs come off. It's wind twitter fingers burnt a trigger finger. Run the house like a tomb raider. Okay. Maybe not but tune into part time for our final verdict is the shade Rupe good or bad were the blacks. Yesterday we discussed the instagram paint you hate to love the shape author George M Johnson joined us to discuss all the pros and the platform like now it's time for the cons and our final verdict is the shabery good for the blacks Georgia's back again to help us decide skin real up here this. Is. I know Jim has been print for a long time but like I'm wondering I'm like. Is there some sort of weird cross section between like jet magazine disappearing from like the digital space and the rise of the shave group I don't know. Jet Magazine ran so the. Koran black ultra into the ground basis. On how? To that point obviously, yes we had discussed brose and I think this. Is Looking really good right now but there are a lot of aspects of the Shade Room Platform. There are frankly upsetting me and my homegirl, and we're GONNA get into that with the cops. I'll go first. Okay. So my cons with the shade is that they don't understand the boundaries of good DASA coverage. The point of celebrity gossip is that supposed to be fun you supposed to know who the he'll is who fool is the person who you're like supposed to be punching up making good gossip editorializing. We'll make who that person is abundantly clear the SHAVER. Over and over again is you know make really kind of like I think offensive armful post about celebrities children. Whether that be just about their looks or you know showcasing without comment the the treatment that the parent gives them like in the case of Ti. Busey. They also will go for the jugular as far as talking about. The gender identity or sexual or the assume sexual orientation celebrities child. As we've seen the case Ziya weight and it's just not okay. So. Is The transgender child of Dwayne, Wade and Gabrielle Union and believe it was last year as I. decided to you she pronouns as well as the names I await. We just trying to figure out as much information. We can to make sure that we give about child the best opportunity to be her best self leitch, of course, made headlines that something I've written about. Multiple, times. But Win of course, the Shave reported on it it. Did Not. Go over clearly wasn't gonNA go over because they know who their audience is and so it realistically just put a lot of arm in the eyesight of of Zionism who already struggling with community and. Things like that, and it's like not only you have. They have a bunch of adults discussing kids business, but additionally, they had offshoot. Called this shade room teens where they're taking all of the unhealthy parts about share platform and repackaging it for people who are in. Middle and high school, and when they go for the jugular disrespect that kind of like boundary. With celebrity children and also by providing content for. Really, young audiences that can be really potentially harmful. Are George. I think it really isn't breeding ground for all of the `ISMs. Phobias. There's literally nobody to check anyone win. It's happening and they leave very heavy in. Misogyny and. In a way that they don't do when. I guess they're speaking of light and they all raptors who were doing. But then when they team do travel I pull something about. Anyone who's a male on new platform they're like a bunch of who comes defense and so it kind of just becomes like this breeding ground is hateful breeding place and I think Cardi B. has also is almost like a personal titian. My fans have semi videos. Of the shave. Room. The. Leading positive comments of me. So I got to argue with them and I told them don't fuck you post me ever again. Don't post I. Don't watch posted. This cycle of work and as someone who's a writer and journalist like you have to do it from the place that doesn't say in in some bias of the people that you're reporting and I think that we forget that celebrities are human. They go through the same things that many of us go through and so when you're watching people like summer walker breakdown and you know you're watching people like offering lennox than like people who are struggling with their first time success and then they go to a site like that literally is exacerbating whatever their struggle is I think it becomes more harmful than good because there's no one to balance out the Hey Hewlett a moment for me because I am followed the room like four years at this point. Cringe I have not quite hit the follow button, but but it's true like there are like the shade room. You know there are parts of it that are really really toxic and I think dangerous too because I think there are I, think the shade room now has actually start to get involved in the mess directly in this way that does not feel okay. bringing you mentioned like kind of. Editorial standards, and it's clear that there are none because I think about Masika and Alexis Skye and kind of their massive battle I mean to be honest. He could probably replace Masika with a few folks because the less guy has consistently. They'll post about the fight. But in the comments, you will see the celebrities actually threatening each other saying. Well. You WanNa say this will pull up and it's like at nap point I'm wondering about what the people run. The Shea Room are thinking because they are they are they worried that some actual harm might come from the work that they're doing. I want to see the room comment on love a hip hop storylines. Cheryl. Actually be part of love and hip hop storylines like that is. Taking it a bit too far. So now it's time for our vote are ready and just to be clear we are not voting on whether or not. We like Angelic Blonde do war her writers we are voting on whether or not the platform the shape is good or bad for the. I've asked the both of you to head to your fridge and pick up two very important items a jar of Mayo. And a bottle of hot sauce. With. Hot Sauce you know sauce almost universally revered by black people. We love a little flavor. We level spice just very important. We're talking about the the shade room. So if you think the share room is good for the blacks, you're going to hold up your bottle. Haass. Do It with your Chess Mayo I usually like a little bit of Mayo on a sandwich or two but I think we all can agree that Mayo is typically not where it's at on the condiments scale. So if you think that the shade room is bad for the blacks, you are going to hold up your mail confidently do it with some power do with all the flavor. At the Mayo Lax. Okay. So we're going to do this on the count of three I want. Two. Three. Shockingly unanimous and this hurts me is hurts me a little bit but. Shane Room is bad for the blacks. First of all George, you understand this the first unanimous bad for the that we have ever had. Three years. Okay. I. Think as the room is right now it is not healthy for us. We just all ourselves much better especially during these times where some reforms. Space Shea Room. defunding, abolish the belief willing to inform. Will, join our say thank you so much for participating in our. The DOTS. mean. Thanks. Thank you so much. This is so much fun. Thank you. Well. That is all we have for today's show, but we have to know, are you a loyal roommate? 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S6: March Mysteries: The Amber Room

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S6: March Mysteries: The Amber Room

"So it's easily the most expensive missing masterpiece in the world over five hundred million dollars worth of elaborately carved NBC jeweled Amber Wall panels. Nowhere to be found with that kind of money on the line. How far would you go to possess the eighth wonder of the world? If you enjoy this episode on the Amber Room check out our podcast gone. Follow gone free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen on August twentieth. Nineteen eighty-seven in Altdorf Germany. Beech tree leaves drifted to the ground. Blanketing the grounds of an ancient castle and covering the ritual sickly disemboweled body of George Stein famed investigator of the missing Amber Room. The amber room which hasn't been seen since its disappearance from Nazi controlled Kennex. Berg Castle in April of Nineteen forty-five is easily the most expensive missing masterpiece in the world. The rooms elaborately carved in bejeweled amber wall panels are worth over five hundred million dollars with that kind of money on the line. How far would you go to possess the amber room? Would you lie? Would you steal? Would you kill hi? I'm Richard and I'm Ali. Welcome to gone the show where. We searched for everything missing each week. We examined mysterious disappearances and the theories they spawned from the Mbaru to Michael Rockefeller Kosovo paintings to the skin language the roanoke colony to the lost Russian cosmonauts if disappeared. We're looking for it. If you WANNA listen to more episodes you can find them on your favorite podcast directory or on our website. Podcast DOT COM this episode. We are focusing on the amber room which disappeared from the Baltic port city of Konigsberg in April. Nineteen forty five. He may be scratching your head right now. And wondering how on earth an entire room can disappear to clarify. The amber room wasn't actually a room. The name refers to a set of towering amber golden jewel encrusted wall panels. That could be moved to different rooms. And the Amber Room did move many times Andrea sluiter. An architect and Gottfried Vo from carver began construction on the amber panels in seventeen a one in order to impress the newly crowned King of Prussia. Frederick the first that's pressure with a P. Not Russia with an R. Prussia was a Germanic kingdom that officially formed the same year. That construction began on the Amber Powell's unfortunately schlueter and Wolfram never completed their work. And the panels ended up stored in Frederick the first castle. Basement Frederick the first son Frederick. William was eager to give the amber wall panels away so in seventeen. Sixteen Frederick William Gifted the amber rooms wall panels to the czar of Russia. Peter the great but it wasn't until seventeen seventy that catherine the great refurbished and finished the amber room. The renovated amber room glowed golden in the sunlight and looked like it belonged in a fairytale. The elaborately carved amber frescoes accented with glittering jewels dazzled visitors from around the world amber framed mirrors and four vibrant stone mosaics complimented the wall panels completed amber room remained a cherished installation at the Catherine Palace for one hundred and seventy years until the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union on June twenty second nineteen forty one and two league Kucherov. Young Soviet curator was in charge of evacuating all of the most valuable treasures from the Catherine Palace. Before the Nazi soldiers closed in on Saint Petersburg Kucherov was determined to save the Amber Room. But when he tried to remove one of the panels the amber crumbled so Kucherov decided to hide them. He overlaid the amber room panels with fake cloth walls but when the Nazis seized Catherine Palace in September of nineteen forty one. They discovered the amber room behind the cloth walls. Almost immediately it took six Nazi soldiers. Only thirty six to take down the amber rooms wall panels and ship them to Konigsberg in historic pressure. The Nazis put the amber room on display at Berg Castle in the Knight's hall for the next four years until April of nineteen forty five. When Soviet forces fought the Nazis for control of Kennex pig after the Nazi surrendered on April Ninth? The amber room mysteriously disappeared our first theory hinges on the possibility that the Nazis smuggled the amber room out of Koenigsberg on the doomed ship the Ville Helm Gustaf. Our second theory is that the Nazis hid the amber room in a secret bunker or a salt mine. This is the theory that George Stein endorsed. And we'll investigate. Whether his search for that Nazi bunker ended in his murderer. Our third theory revolves around a stunning possibility. What if Soviet troops were the ones who stole or destroyed the amber room in April of nineteen forty five? And what if the Soviet government created an elaborate hoax to hide the role of their own? Soldiers played in the loss of a cultural. Treasure follows down the rabbit hole as we delve into three tales of intrigue and untimely death. Our first theory is that the Nazis stored the amber room's panels aboard the Ville Helm gustloff which sunk to investigate this theory. We need to travel to the ocean floor. Where the wreckage of the film? Gustaf lies covered in Barnacles and fishing nets. Looters and grave robbers have stripped ship of most of its valuables but some divers remain convinced that the amber room's panels still I nestled in crates somewhere on the sunken ship Ville. Home Gustloff was a sizable cruise liner at six hundred eighty four feet and one inch in length. It was just under two hundred feet shorter than the titanic. But it beat the titanic in the one competition. You Never WanNa win six times. As many people died when it sank the Ville Gustaf started life as a cruise ship for the Nazi Organization. Kroft Freud or strength through joy when the Nazis began their invasion of Europe in nineteen thirty. Nine it was converted first into a hospital ship and then into a barracks ship for U Boat Trainees. It remained docked in Gdynia. Poland until nineteen forty-five when it became part of operation. Hannibal the goal of Operation Hannibal was to evacuate Nazi soldiers and civilians from Eastern Prussia by C. Before the Soviet Army claimed the region the film Gustaf was one of hundreds of ships taking part in the evacuation hundreds of Nazi soldiers and thousands of civilians streamed aboard the film. Gustaf desperate to the Soviets several people later came forward and admitted they also saw Nazi agents smuggling the amber rooms wall panels on board the ship during the evacuation. And it's these accounts that form the Lynch Pin of our first theory. Despite the fact that the ship carried over five thousand children the presence of military personnel and the ship's anti-aircraft guns meant the ship was still a war vessel and acceptable target for allied forces. And fortunately the ship's anti aircraft guns were malfunctioning. Due to the cold weather as the Villain Gustaf navigated through deep waters to avoid potential mines. Soviet Submarine S. Thirteen ship quickly spotted the large ship. The submarine's commander Alexander Marinescu ordered his crew to fire torpedoes at the Nazi vessel. Hundreds of passengers died instantly. When the Soviet torpedoes struck the survivors of the detonations were trapped on a rapidly sinking ship. Freezing temperatures hampered the evacuation most of the life boats were frozen in place. Passengers lost precious time attempting to chip them. Free and lower them into the water jumped straight into the frigid water in an attempt to save themselves but with the air already at zero degrees Fahrenheit. The passengers couldn't survive in the icy waters for long within an hour. The film gustloff slipped below the water's sinking the ocean's depths rescue boats were only able to save a few hundred passengers leaving as many as nine thousand die. This was the worst. Maritime Disaster In recorded history in the decades following World War Two rumors began to circulate that the amber room could be found on the sunken ship. But acting on those rumors is illegal. The Ville held gustloff is now a designated war grave which means salvagers who dived to. The wreckage are breaking the law yet. Divers continue to explore the sunken ship stealing every last piece of salvage. That means if a diver did find the panels they might be inclined to keep them secret or sell them on the black market and sadly this is why we probably won't find the amber panels on the film Gustloff if they ever were on board. It's hard to believe they wouldn't have been found in sold already. Most likely they were never there in the first place agreed. But if the amber room didn't sink to a watery grave then. We need to consider our next theory. What if the Nazis hid the amber room in the secret bunker? We'll return to our story in just a moment from the podcast network and now back to gone. It's time to examine our second theory. The amber room was hidden in Germany in secret. Nazi bunker code-named B. S. C. H. R. Search now brings us to a Soviet newspaper article released on July. Sixth nineteen fifty-eight a Russian reporter named DMITRIEV. Breathlessly informed his readers that he was a member of a secret. Soviet t that searched for the amber room a decade earlier in December of Nineteen forty-nine Dmitriev big Soviet readers to send in any potential information on Nazis who might have hidden the amber room and in June of nineteen fifty nine just one year after. Dmitriev article came out an eerily. Similar article appeared in the Freia. Veld a newspaper circulated in Soviet controlled East Germany in the FRYER veld article? A professor named Gerhard Strauss asked readers to send him any information they had on where Nazis might have concealed amber room. A German man known only by the code name Rudy. Ringel saw the article in wrote in two professors Strauss with an astounding claim in one thousand nine hundred forty nine a decade before the article appeared. Ringel was rummaging around in his family's basement when he found a leather bag filled with secret Nazi documents belonging to his deceased father. One document instructed wrinkles father to take the forty two boxes that contain the ember rooms priceless panels to a secret location. Code-named B. S. C. H. Another document confirmed that wrinkles. Father had successfully hidden crates in B. S. C. H. It stated quote Action Amber Room concluded storage in B. S. C. H. ACCESS. Blown up casualties through enemy action. End Quote these documents were irrevocable proof that the amber room was successfully smuggled out of Cairns Berg to a secret Nazi bunker. But here's where things get. Tricky wrinkled burn. The documents. Wrinkle claimed he was worried his family would get in trouble for his father's Nazi past so he burnt his father's entire pouch of documents unless Ringel had a photographic memory. It was unlikely that he really remember the exact wording of the documents which made the location of B. S. C. H. Even more difficult to pinpoint over a decade had passed since the disappearance of the amber room in one thousand nine hundred forty five but east German Soviet intelligence agents known as the Stasi were still eager to uncover B. S. C. H. is location was B. S. C. H. Location in connects Berg or did Ese. H referred to a secret bunker. Somewhere in Germany a Stasi agent named Paul Anka was particularly determined to find B. S. C. H. But he had nothing to go on beyond the information rudy. Ringel had recalled from his father's letters Inca carefully checked. The train routes shipping schedules for Koenigsberg. In the early months of nineteen forty-five although others had concluded that it would have been impossible for the Nazis to ship. The amber room out of Koenigsberg. Anka realized the Nazis had successfully kept routes out of the city open from February nineteenth until April sixth or seventh in other words. Anka was confident that there was enough time for the Nazis to send the amber room to safety utilizing the information provided by Ringel ANCO became convinced that B. S. C. H. referred to a cave or mine in Western Saxony Germany in nineteen seventy six. Anka finally won approval to excavate a mine in western Germany where he believed he might find the amber room but inca found nothing and he was kicked off the amber room. Search or still Anka's faith in Rudy. Ringel turned out to be misplaced. The Stasi investigated Rudy Ringo's claims about his father trying to find evidence that he truly had hidden the amber room instead. They made a disappointing discovery. The only thing wrinkles father was in charge of guarding during World War. Two was the post office. So it's very likely that nothing. Ringel said about his father's letters was true and since Anka's entire search for the amber room revolved around Ringel. He was probably on a wild goose chase. The entire time we may have debunked wrangles B. S. C. H. Bunker story but that doesn't necessarily disprove the theory that the Nazis hid the amber room in a bunker or a salt mine just that the location was named Bs Age. Other investigators continued to search for bunkers and caves in Germany. Were Nazis could have hidden the amber room and despite Anka's fall from grace over the debunked B. S. C. H. Theory. He still had a role to play in the search for the missing amber room. He would soon team up with a German investigator. George Stein the most famous man to have hunted for the Amber Room. The man who seemed closest to finding it and the man who may have died because of it we just called him an investigator but George. Stein wasn't a government official or a professor. He was in fact a strawberry farmer from Stella in West Germany. He was also passionate amateur historian. He spent his free time researching everything he could find about treasures. That went missing during World War Two in Nineteen seventy-two Stein discovered that a German Museum was secretly keeping a collection of incredibly valuable. Byzantine icons that belonged to the Soviet Union. This particular set of icons had been stolen by the Nazis from a monastery in Pskov Russia during World War Two and shipped to Germany. The Americans and Germans were supposed to return all of the stolen Russian artwork. They've found in Germany to the Soviets however the Soviets believed that the Americans never sent back all of the Russian artwork they discovered in Germany during World War. Two and at least in this instance the Soviets were right. George Stein managed to uncover communications between the American government and the director of a German Museum. Proving that the German Museum had accepted the Russian icons from the Americans. Even though the icons should have been shipped back to the Soviets George Stein was able to bring public awareness to the issue through a friend newspaper reporter Marian Don off who wrote an article about the stolen icons the resulting publicity enabled the return of the Byzantine icons to the Soviet Union. Having successfully found one rare missing artwork from World War. Two Stein now turned his attention to the missing amber room but Stasi that's the east. German Soviet Intelligence Service didn't want George Stein interfering with their independence searched for the amber room when Stein started digging around and asking for their files the Stasi decided that they needed to control the information. That Stein was able to access the Stasi had their agent. Paul Anka Context Stein under the pseudonym. Dr Paul Cole. Stein believed that. Anka was a senior researcher in eastern Germany until late in his life. Stein had no idea that ankle was using a false name or that he was a Stasi agent after sifting through the information fed to him. By Inca Stein eventually became convinced that the amber room could be found in the West German village adultery housing. He shared his theory with the media hoping to get funding for a dig. Reporters began following his search with great interest in. May of nineteen seventy nine a Russian reporter and author named Julian Semyonov described Stein as quote Europe's most successful Second World War treasure hunter unquote. Unfortunately his quest may also have gotten him the wrong kind of attention in nineteen eighty two George Stein. Cold Police with a harrowing story masked intruders had broken into his house and tortured him demanding information on the amber room drugged and beaten unconscious. Stein came to his senses only to discover a mysterious note written in Latin quote. If you're disgraced servant is white than Christ should spray his blood if he's read? Christ should extinguish him if he is black Christ should let him die and quote. But what does that mean? Perhaps read was a reference to the Soviets the color reds connection to Communism dates. All the way back to the Paris commune of eighteen seventy one. The French revolutionary government employed a red banner and this color was subsequently adopted by Communist governments around the world. The Soviet Union was so closely tied to the color red that their army was commonly known as the Red Army and during the Russian revolution. The Red Army was opposed by a nationalistic group known as the White Army. The White Army were anti-communist fighting the Red Bolsheviks and around this theory out there was an anarchist group called the black guards active during the Russian revolution as well. We can't be sure what the note means but it's interesting to interpret it within a Russian cultural context regardless of what the note said the underlying message was clear no matter what his affiliations were. George Stein was in danger and the police were unable to find. George Stein's attackers but Stein was undaunted. He continued his search for the amber room. Despite the masked man's threats and he suffered the consequences the summer after the intruders attack. Stein's wife Elizabeth was discovered hanging from the seller. Rafters did Elizabeth Kill herself. Or was Elizabeth death connected to her husband's search for the amber room. Our story will continue in a moment after a brief message. Now our story continues decades after World War Two. Many investigators believe the missing amber room could be found in a secret Nazi bunker. George Stein counted himself among them. But death followed Stein. Search for the amber wall panels in nineteen ninety-three Stein's wife was found dead in their home. Stein's context began to fear that he was in danger. Stein's friend the writer. Julian Semyonov wrote a letter to starchy agent. Paul Anka warning quote. The matter of George. Stein is more complicated. His wife had died and this had affected him very much. And then somebody and this has been my feeling had begun to work against us. I'm not going to write anything about this in the letter. Better when we have a chance to meet face to face and quote Semyonov was so shaken by the death of Stein's wife. He was worried about the wrong party. Intercepting and reading his letter but despite the apparent danger Stein absolutely refused to give up on his search for the amber room he created a documentary about his theory on the Amber Room's disappearance which was released on April sixteenth. Nineteen Eighty Seven. Stein was now convinced at the amber room was stolen by. Us soldiers did Stein and covered. The truth. Stein did a stint in Hamburg psychiatric hospital in May of nineteen eighty seven. He warned his doctors that he knew dangerous secrets. But Stein's doctors didn't take him seriously. He was in a psychiatric hospital. The doctors probably just believed he was mentally. Ill perhaps but it seems like Stein was right to be concerned for his safety just one week after his documentary aired on April Twenty Third Nineteen eighty-seven Stein was admitted to a north German hospital with a grievous stomach wound. Doctors needed to do surgery to repair his colon. We have no information on. How Stein got injured or who perpetrated the attack that we can't help but wonder is. Stein was once again assaulted as a result of his investigation into the amber room. Not long after he was released. Stein was rushed to a new hospital in Bavaria. In June of nineteen eighty-seven someone had found him in the Starnberg Woods. Suffering from stab wounds to his stomach frustratingly. We once again have no additional information on. How Stein ended up in those woods whether he was attacked or who might have been for stabbing him despite nearly bleeding to death from his injuries. Stein refuse to be silenced in his quest to find the amber room he wrote to a friend on August thirteenth nineteen eighty-seven quote the Amber Room. Research goes on and this is the only thing that matters and quote but Stein's new. Dr Ben Asleep was worried about threats to his patients. Life on August Fifteenth Nineteen Eighty Seven. He wrote quote Stein's strategic guideline for his life is to look for much honor even at the price of large numbers of unwanted enemies and quote just five days later on August twentieth nineteen eighty seven in the scenic town of Altdorf. A passer-by discovered the sprawled body of a round faced man. His glasses perched crooked -ly on his nose. It was George Stein someone had once again sliced open. Stein stomach and these final cuts were fatal. Police never arrested any suspects. In Stein's death was Stein murdered by the owner of the stolen amber room. Or did he kill himself? In two thousand three a pair of journalists on the trail of the amber room uncovered a letter sent after. Stein's death on August twenty fifth nineteen eighty-seven by one of the hospitals that treated Stein the letter stated that before Elizabeth died. Stein had quote encouraged his wife to make sacrificial cuts in his abdominal wall using a dissecting scalpels and quote the report also mentioned quote. George Stein had called the police claiming to have been attacked by. Knife-wielding masked raiders who warned him off the amber room mystery but he had invented the stories after forcing his wife to perform sadomasochistic acts and quote so Stein forced his poor wife to stab him in the stomach. Not only that. The report indicates that Stein's behavior may have driven his wife to commit suicide and after his wife died. Stein may have resorted to stabbing himself which means that every time. That Stein was admitted to a hospital with stomach wounds in the summer of nineteen eighty seven. Those wounds were likely self-inflicted inflicted and Stein's death in August of Nineteen eighty-seven was most likely not murder but suicide. We now believe Stein and his wife both killed themselves but why would Stein frame-they're suicides as murders was it? A final desperate bid for lasting fame. If that was Stein's goal then he succeeded. His death made front page headlines. But if Stein's death is just another red herring. Then what does this mean for our theory? I don't think Stein's faulty. Investigation disapproves the theory that the amber room was hidden in a bunker or a cave after all treasure hunters still search. Germany's mountains for the amber room but Stein's and Incas failed searches for the bunker. Demonstrate how fruitless endeavour has been. You'd think that if the amber room was hidden in a Nazi bunker then someone would have found more definitive evidence of its existence. By now perhaps. But it's not as easy to search all of Germany and Eastern Europe as it is to search the wreck of one sunken ship. Like the film. Gustaf so I think we can agree that our second theory that the amber room was concealed in a Nazi bunker is more likely to be true. Then our first theory about the film Gustaf but there is no definitive evidence to prove either theory. Which means it's time to examine our final theory in April of nineteen forty five. The amber room was stolen by Soviet treasure hunters or destroyed in the fire that consumed Konigsberg Castle to investigate this theory. We need to travel back in time to the war torn streets of connects Berg Kegs. Berg had been under siege since August of nineteen forty four when the royal airforce bombed the city the Nazi surrendered control of Kennex Berg to the Soviets on April ninth of nineteen forty five Soviet trophy brigades consisting of conscripted artists curator's and professors trust in military. Uniforms quickly descended on the city. The Brigade members were under orders from the government to seek out valuable artwork to bring back to the Soviet Union but sometimes more unscrupulous brigade members kept trophies for themselves. Could one of the trophy brigades combing through Kernigan? Berg have stolen the amber room. The possibility is there especially when you examine the behavior of Trophy Brigade member colonel. Even Yanko on April twelfth right after the Soviets took the city even Yanko found records indicating that the amber room was in Koenigsberg Castle. But for some mysterious reason even Yanko didn't send a telegraph to the Soviet Union about the amber room. Until may why did even Yanko take so many weeks to report back to the Soviet government where his fellow Trophy Brigade members using that extra time to take treasures for themselves? From Kinnock's Berg Castle after learning the amber room was encouraged Berg the Soviet Union dispatched to professor by the name of Alexander. Bruce off to current expert on May Twenty Fifth Nineteen forty-five his mission find and recover the amber room. Bruce off reached kegs. Berg on May thirty first two days later on June second he began to search the ruins of Kennedy Spur Castle for the Amber Room. Bruce off found no trace of the amber room. It connects Birr castle until June. Fifth when he excavated the Knight's hall which had been ravaged by. Fire Bruce off looked around the hall and wrote that he quote found bronze hangings from the scoiety. Ceelo DOORS CORNISH PIECES. That could have been in the Amber Room. Iron Strips with bolts with the help of which parts of the amber room were boxed into crates. Rusoff concluded quote. We should give up looking for the amber room and quote. But this doesn't make any sense. If the Soviets knew for certain that the amber room was destroyed. Why did they spend the next? Several decades funding searches for it. Well Bruce off wasn't the only one who searched for the amber room in the ruins of Kennex Castle Antonelli Kucherov the young Russian curator. Who had been responsible for packing up? The amber rooms wall panels back in nineteen forty one was distraught over the loss of the amber room. Perhaps he blamed himself for failing to take down the number panels before the Nazis arrived. Especially since the Nazis dismantled them so easily Kucherov was ear to prove that Bruce off was wrong that the amber room hadn't been destroyed a year. After Bruce off strip in March of nineteen forty six Kucherov ventured to Konigsberg himself to search for the Amber Room on March twenty second nineteen forty-six Gucci. Mov found even more evidence that the amber room had been in the Knight's hall. He uncovered quote three totally burned and discolored mosaic pictures from the amber room and quote. These were three of the four coloured stone mosaics that Catherine the Great Commission to decorate the amber room in the seventeen hundreds so after finding three of the amber rooms mosaics burned. Kucherov must have concluded that Bruce off was right. The amber room was destroyed in the fire. Not True Kucherov wrote quote. This cannot serve as evidence that the amber room was lost in a fire and quote because Kucherov had only found three out of the four stone. Mosaics he believed the Nazis must have smuggled the fourth mosaic out of the castle along with the rest of the amber room. But at that point why would the Nazis leave three of the mosaics behind? If they had time to save everything else. Kucherov came up with a convoluted theory. He noted that the three panels had been wedged under the stairwell where there was no room for the crates containing the amber rooms. Twelve foot tall panels. Therefore the crates must have been stored somewhere else. Weren't they probably just stored somewhere else in the hall? Kucherov believed that this was impossible. Because he found no pieces of amber in the Knight's hall he also found no remnants of the amber room's decorative objects like mirrors that should have been stored alongside the ember panels so Kucherov use these three pieces of evidence. No fourth mosaic. No amber pieces. No decorative JECHT's to draw his conclusion that the amber room was hidden in a secret location by the Nazis. Possibly in a bunker somewhere kennex Berg and it was Kucherov theory that the Soviet Union latched onto his conclusion that the Nazis successfully hid. The amber room was responsible for spawning the theories excavations that took place over the next several decades but none of coochie evidence holds up under scrutiny. Let's start with his theory that the amber room's panels were hidden away along with the surviving Stone Mosaic Hoochie. Mov had no way of knowing this in nineteen forty six but his theory about the missing Stone Mosaic would be proven wrong fifty years later in the summer of nineteen ninety seven a German man named Hans Doctrine came forward and admitted that he had the four stone mosaic its was confirmed and the mosaic was finally returned to Russia. Hans claimed that his deceased father was one of the Nazi soldiers who helped rip the amber rooms wall panels from the Catherine Palace inserts. Goya'S CEELO in the fall of nineteen forty one. His father apparently took a liking to one of the stone eggs and decided to keep it for himself which means that the fourth mosaic was never shipped from Russia to cut expert castle along with the rest of the amber room but even if cuccia moths theory about the stone mosaic no longer holds up. What about his theory that he would have found remnants of amber if the amber room had burned in a fire that makes sense? Doesn't it not really the fire that destroyed the Knight's hall incinerated the Stone Mosaics and those stone mosaics had a much higher melting point than amber? The fire was easily hot enough to turn the amber wall panels into pine scented smoke. Meaning there would be no pieces of amber left for Kucherov to find but what about Kusuma's final piece of evidence? If the amber room was destroyed in a fire shouldn't have the amber room's decorative objects Kucherov seemed to have forgotten that Soviet soldiers and trophy brigades had an entire year to nab trophies from Kinnock. Spur Castle before he arrived in Nineteen forty-six so the Trophy Brigade members had plenty of time to take whatever pieces of the amber room remained for themselves and in fact the theory of Soviet theft is bolstered by Kucherov interview with Paul Fire Auburn which he conducted on April Second Nineteen forty-six firearms and ran a Nazi restaurant. In Kinnock's Berg Castle during World War Two during the battle between the Nazis and the Soviets in April of nineteen forty fire up and hidden the nights whole the same room where the curators had stored the amber room according to fire Abend when Russian troops kicked him out of Kennedy's per castle on April tenth. The Knight's hall was in Pristine condition and it was only after fire. Robin left and the Soviet Army took over the castle that the Knight's hall was destroyed in a fire. If fire was telling the truth this can mean only one of two things to Soviet army accidentally started the fire that burned down the knight's hall and destroyed the Amber Room or Soviet soldiers or trophy brigade members stole the Amber Room. Out of the Knight's hall on April Tenth and they set fire to the hall to hide any evidence of their theft that if the Soviet Union knew that the amber room had been taken by Soviet troops or destroyed in a fire. The still doesn't explain why they would waste so much money and spent so many decades looking for the Amber Room. This is where we get into our wildest theory yet. The search for the missing amber room might have been nothing more than a Soviet government conspiracy. But what could the Soviets possibly have to gain by perpetuating a hoax about the amber room? More than you might think. As we previously discussed the Soviet Union created Trophy Brigades during World War. Two to seize as much valuable. European art as possible the Soviets viewed the art as compensation for the Nazi invasion that cost over twenty million Russian lives but as World War Two drew to a close the Americans Europeans Europeans began to realize that the Soviet Union was hoarding priceless artwork. From all over Europe as scrutiny increasingly fell on the Soviet Union's Trophy Brigades the Soviet government needed to do damage control the Soviets needed to direct attention away from their trophy brigades and protect their image as victims of Nazi aggression and the amber room stood as a convenient symbol of everything. The Russians lost to the Nazis during the war if the Soviets knew for a fact that their own soldiers not the Nazis had stolen or destroyed the amber room. They needed to keep that under wraps in order to save face and keep their plunder in Russia. But is that really enough of a reason for the Soviets to create a fake story about the Mburu a story that they were willing to back up with decades of expensive excavations. Let's take another look at that. Article first published by the Soviet reporter Dmitriev in nineteen fifty eight he. He was part of a secret. Excavation team that searched for the amber room in nineteen forty nine. Dmitri it's article helped spawn the rumors that the Amru was hidden in a secret Nazi bunker. But here's the catch not only was Dimitri of never involved with any excavations in Kuenssberg Dmitriev never even existed a pair of investigative journalists researching the lost amber room discovered. That DMITRIEV was the secret pen. Name of venue mean Krolikowski the secretary of the Kalingrad Communist Party a high ranking Soviet government. Official this may sound like a conspiracy theory but it's true. The journalists covered a report in which venue mean Kolevski was identified by his pseudonym Vladimir Dmitriev. This means that the nineteen fifty-nine article about the search for the amber room allegedly written by a Soviet reporter named Vladimir Dmitriev was actually written by government official. In other words it was the Soviet government that planted the story about the missing amber room. They were controlling the narrative. All along to keep the blame squarely on the Nazis and with the Soviet government overly eager to pin the missing amber ruin the Nazis. No one bothered to investigate the Soviet trophy brigade members and soldiers who could have potentially smuggled the amber room out of Kennedy's Berg Castle and back to Russia. Where for all we know. The amber room might remain hidden to this day treasure hunters continue to scour the mountains and caverns of Germany and Eastern Europe. Hoping they will be the ones to discover the amber room in a secret Nazi bunker but does the bunker really exist or is the entire story of the missing amber room. The fabrication of a Soviet government infamous for its clever spycraft manipulation of the press do descendants of Nazi commanders know where the room lies buried or do the Russian descendants of Soviet soldiers know the real fate of their countries lost treasure. I think this is the most likely theory by accident or design. The Soviets are responsible for the disappearance of the amber room. From Kennedy's Berg in nineteen forty five agreed but even though we think it's unlikely that the Nazis successfully hid the amber room. They still bear the most responsibility for the rooms. Tragic disappearance after all. They were the ones who stole the amber room from Russia in the first place. That's true we may never find the amber room in a Nazi bunker but perhaps the amber wall panels will be discovered in the attic of a long dead Soviet soldier or perhaps a young Russian will uncover a great grandparents diary detailing the mysterious sequence of events surrounding the fire. That destroyed the Knight's hall unless someone decides to share their secrets. We'll never truly know. Thanks for tuning into gone. If you like the show you can subscribe for more episodes on Apple podcasts. Tune-in Google play Stitcher spotify or your favorite podcast directory. While you're there we'd really appreciate a five star review. It seems simple but it really helps our show. What do you think happened to the amber room? You can tell us your theories on facebook and instagram at par cast on twitter at podcast network or at PODCAST DOT com. A new episode comes out next week. Just because something is missing doesn't mean it can't be found gone was created by Max. 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"Produced by the lab at W._B.. You are Boston. I'm Ben Brock Johnson and I'm Marie Sivertsen and where the hosts of endless thread you know us the friendly W._b.. You are other podcasters who jump into your food from time to time with stories stories. We have another art heist mystery that we think you'll love. It's about one of the greatest missing treasures in the world the amber room here's the story emery you have seen the original Jurassic Park movie right dinosaurs eat man woman inherits. The're clever so emory you obviously remember that part in the movie where there's this little educational video for visitors to Jurassic. Ask Park explaining how dinosaurs get brought to life in modern times using D._N._A.. From ancient mosquito blood I s a movie within the movie uvi Very Meta sometimes after Biden Madonna saw the mosquito would land on a branch of a tree and get stuff in the sun after a long long time the trees have get hard and become fossilized just like a dinosaur bone preserving the mosquito inside. That's how you get it amber and a whole adventure park full of deadly asked Dyno's heck yeah also Jurassic Park was my first understanding of the idea that fossilized a tree sap. Aka Ember is rare and valuable but I had no idea that it was this valuable. I'm fine was golden the bank this is Adrian Levy who is not talking about the Jurassic period. He's talking about Eighteenth Century Europe Levy is Kinda like a journalist version of Indiana Jones and I am live in London though I work around the world as an investigative journalist and producer gathering photographs and documents <hes> in many many different countries so I can put together large scale historic investigations which are much like broken plates when you try and piece bits together to to make whole I already like this guy. I like how serious he is about his work too because we're about to ask Adrian to tell the story of one of the greatest unsolved unsolved mysteries supposedly unsolved mysteries of all time it is a mystery that begins with an artistic feet so massive and innovative it took up an entire room of a palace in fact it was the room a room of amber. It's legendary and it's missing. I'm Ben Brock Johnson. I'm Imerese Iverson and you're listening to endless thread. The show featuring stories found in the vast ecosystem goes system of online communities called. We're coming to you from W._B._U.. Are Boston's N._p._R.. Station today's episode frozen in amber so if you're into art history you've probably heard about the amber room <hes> but we heard about it through read it. It's one of those stories that gets posted over and over. It's an unresolved mystery a today I learned and to fully explain why it is is perennially posted. I think we should stay with this amber conversation permanent also we should talk about Prussia which is like one of those things that as a dumb American I very little point of reference for but Prussia get started in the fifteen hundreds it is this kingdom and it eventually becomes the German Empire it includes depending depending on when you're taking a snapshot a whole Chunk of Poland plus what is now Germany also a chunk of Denmark look like a lot of European history from the Middle Ages and in the early modern period it is complicated but Prussia is also a so called great power meaning it has global influence and that influence comes not just from military might but also from great wealth Adria Levy says literally tons of this wealth was amber wealth was representation of Prussian might joints may be used and bought it for a number of monarchic missions that needs to be run say wow I had no idea that amber was like a form of of cash. I guess I think it would be fair to say that the wealth of that state was underpins by the royal monopoly remember which both demonstrating might <hes> but also shrewdness in the United States as gold. It's fungible easy to trade limited in supply and its value only ever rose part of this value comes from scarcity but also from theology amber had mystique in these cultures in the Prussian in coach especially because of its ability to catch the past there was also a rumor about it having a kind of charge around intellectual static quality all all right. I feel like I'm in a crystal shop. In twenty nine thousand nine. You're not but <hes> definitely a similar vibe amber special properties maybe so so how did they get their piles and piles of amber piles and piles of ancient forest bits underwater lychee what amber the fisherman wading into the Rossi's of the Baltic on huge lines to prevent drowning and scooping awful wintry see I'm by the flaked off the seabed and risen to the surface so extraordinarily difficult was it to gain large quantities that anyone who it possessed such large quantities themselves became powerful. It's like a kind of dubious idea with diamonds. I'm it's creating a cartel around and extremely precious is commodity. This mystique of course is not lost on the first King of Prussia Frederick. I Frederick Rick is this decorated military leader who rises to lead this new global power and global powers to demonstrate how powerful they are which is how we get to who an entire room of oppression palace constructed out of amber this gemstone that shows up in Idi bitty little pieces at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. That's the plan at least and the conception of it was that if you stepped into a room made up this substance that never been used architecture before and only on broaches or in jewelry other kinds of jewelry that the effect would be like stepping into a time machine a room plastered with an ancient sap suspended in which are insects and parts of leaves and bone that go back many millions of years so <hes> really extraordinary utilization version of this material. I love this idea like I think of time. Machines may be more than the average person but I always think of them. As fancy technological feats I never think of a time machine as a room constructed of gemstones with organic matter frozen inside of them for thousands of years what a beautiful full-fat a beautiful thought and also a tall order. It's going to take years to build this one room and not just because of the detailed work required but because Frederick's basically asking for this really unique collaboration of architects sculptors jewellers and even some chemists to Wad enormous amounts of pooling of mines to work out how to make amber not brittle how to make it manageable how to shape it into panels awesome frames and then suspended behind gold leaf so that it would twinkle by candle lights. The room starts being planned at the end of the sixteen ninety s and it's not really finished until over a decade later in seventeen eleven and then it's installed in the Berlin city palace which is the beginning of things getting weird for this this enormous piece of artwork pretty quickly after it's installed the guy who ordered the thing in the first place. Frederick dies also the lead sculptor Andrea Schlueter sluiter. He has a bit of a rough patch. He builds a big tower on a bunch of sand and the tower collapses and his career is over. He's ruined it. Do be like that. Sometimes I do next king of Prussia Frederick the first successor Frederick William not a big culture guy. He's like the the eighteenth century version of a super jock. He's called the soldier king he does not care for this glowing baroque time machine made out of amber unless we're talking in dollar signs technically. Reich stoller signs but you know what I mean but the amber room is more than just tons of gemstones with suspended organic matter in them backed act by gold leaf and melted into wall panels to visitors who come through the palace in Berlin its jaw dropping it gets called the eighth wonder of the world it's coveted by the rich and powerful including Peter the Great of Russia so Frederick William Who's trying to secure packed with Peter the Great. He says you like it. Take it it was put into enormous number of crates and given the full transportation that was available at the time it was shipped by sledge caught and you dragged. If you like all the way from Prussia to Russia totally normal thing to do take an entire palace palace room jewel encrusted in send it to Russia as a gift for can rich people man. I bet they weren't the ones dragon the sleds through a Europe seriously and this is the beginning of an epic saga. That's really the reason why we're still talking about the amber room today. This room is on a journey worthy the of a real deal time machine a journey that will cover several transports and several tear downs and rebuilds over several hundred years if if anything was made and never to be transported it probably was the amber room. I mean the substances. Brittle it requires being kept a constant temperatures for in order for or it's maturing hugh. It's colors to be maintained that the room is not be too cold or too hot and I certainly think we came across one account that talks talks about the reaction of a courtier when they open the chest and there were many many many smash paces <unk> over it's hundreds of years of existence the ember rooms whereabouts are followed by the people who covered it because it is beautiful the people who want to discover its final final resting place when it gets lost and also people who want to use it for political gain wise the amber room so popular well to mice volleyball missing treasure so let's start with that that headlines pretty good but the pivotal moments of the story absolutely all in the East and they are in areas where information control its absolute. Ariza is extremely hard as a investigates that will scholar to gain access to army sources and so what you have instead is kind of whispering campaign based on folk law. Adrian talks about this a lot the idea that the barriers to primary source accounts of the amber room have allowed it to become even more legendary Gary than it might have otherwise and he should know because Adrian's done maybe the deepest dive on the Amber Room in the book the Amber Room Fate of the world's greatest lost treasure written by him and his Co author and working partner Cathy Scott Clark who he says totally would have also talked to us except she was filming with a they celebrated award winning documentarian. Whatever Kathy seriously though we are relying heavily on Caffeine Adrian's work here they did hundreds of interviews reviews and have chased the amber room to the ends of the earth looking for a work of art with a worth that some estimates put at about half a billion dollars but back back to the seventeen hundreds where the ember rooms journey was just getting started after getting it as a gift and having it dragged across Europe into Russia on a bunch of Sledge's Peter the great forgot about it freaking rich people man but it was eventually reinstalled decades later in a palace near what's now called Saint Petersburg Berg along with the challenge of handling with care while you are transporting via sledge. We have to remember that. It's not that easy to just uninstall one palace rooms worth of decadent panels and reinstall it in a totally different palace. It's not like these palaces are standardized so amber room two point. Oh gets gets a bunch of additional amber thrown in bringing it close to six tons of amber which really complicates matters in a way but nonetheless the amber room is still adored it by a number of curator's who care for this incredibly fragile beautiful now almost six hundred square foot work of art for a while until Adrian says says the number room finds itself at the center of a struggle that will have it moving again. A lot of Adrian's work is based around conflict and war and the amber room story is no different hundreds of years after it was brought to Russia the room moves again because of World War Two in the incursion of Nazis in Russia also the leadership of Russia at the time while they had bigger fish to fry than the amber room lot of problems problems at least ninety nine problems and the amber room ain't one at least not one they're worried about there's a fight for survival happening here but the curator's curator's the people who know and love the value of this great wonder carrying about this stuff. It's their work and it became obvious to them. As Nazi Germany began to rub up against the Soviet Union that's something would need to be done to protect these palaces because there were no official directives that were coming in and interestingly ask the threat rises of Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union <hes> they the courageous off faced with exactly the same appropriate. Everybody is being faced with through history with Ambro which is how to dismantle the crisis jigs around the world and how to reassemble it and how to look Osram once it's dismantles here we go again. Guys stopped taking it apart seriously but the good news of course is that these Russian amber loving in curator's come up with a better plan. They're going to hide it. Does it work more on that in a minute and uh-huh so we left off in Saint Petersburg then called Leningrad which is under siege by the Nazis the siege is. As devastating starvation everywhere there's no heat the siege will last for years. It's eventually classified as genocide an early on the curator's the raiders in charge of the amber room they think they're going to move it and we know from a personal account kept by the lead to writes a young man could could chew off that <hes> they tried like my spicy things I'm getting a knife street driver and placing it underneath a corner of the amber and trying to present off the backing board and we also night from his account that immediate he did that of course the amber shuttered rooms now would freezing cold and makes any curator freak out. I would imagine reading some descriptions of this tightly and I think you could wind back a stage and think that you know the approach of placing that butter knife under the corner of the <hes> the umbrella in itself was fraught but also the city of Leningrad was starving and there was not enough cash to feed people pull let alone each room you can imagine the condition of the room was <hes> AH pulling throw into this situation a revelation of sorts before the war for a bunch of German dignitaries visited the Ember Room and the Russians realized that basically these dignitaries were making a list of the stuff that they were going to take when they took over the Russians needed to protect this thing the clock was ticking now they know that the price will be the heads if they cannot succeed in spiriting way these the these measures to keep them safe from the Nazis so they come up with a cunning ruse which is to make another on top of the room and kitchen remorse idea is to take <hes> wanting a coin of our wedding made from felt or sheepskin and put that up against extraordinarily Brittle Amru and then cover the room <hes> in <hes> rolls of wallpaper that have been left behind. I'm from renovations years ago so bill the fake room inside the amber room to cover it up and hide it absolutely and I think given even the fact that they had no idea how so jigsaw puzzle this was a shrewd move. It's a gambit but it's necessary because eventually the Nazis I get to the palace and they knew exactly where to come so when they were confronted by the room within the room I'm sure initially they were <hes> <hes> non-plussed by what they saw but really within a matter of hours someone had taken a ban at two that padding realized that the amber room was behind it and used a lot more all brute force than most of the rushing rating was prepared to strip the amber room into boxes and then transported it in a quite lengthy route to in what was then cooled can expect on in the Baltic Heist the Baltic coast close to the waters I from whence the amber was fished in the first place full circle in a way and a feather in the hat for brutal German regime that was infamous for for stealing the world's greatest works of art to dubious ends so the amber room was now beneath the castle in German territory hidden from the world ironically unikely enough the same fortress where the to Frederick's at the beginning of our story the PRUSSIAN leader who brought it into the world and the one who sold it to Russia for Military Pact were crowned Kings uh-huh the ember room was back home in a way even if the reasons were despicable and the storage didn't respect it's true glory but near the end of the war the castle is destroyed bombed by the allied forces shelled by the Russians. The castle is burnt to a crisp a ruined skeleton looking mm something maybe like a wall panel of the amber room itself with all the brittle amber shattered and blown out and it may be that this is what happened to the room June two after all it was fragile and for a freaking palace room to be deconstructed and reconstructed over and over like a jigsaw puzzle that it gets a little more beat up every time it's used the amber room had a good run but there wasn't evidence of this destruction people say there just wasn't any shattered amber in the castle ruins. This is really where the trail of the amber room goes cold or maybe just gets confused like a bunch of different a potential timelines because despite the destruction of the castle a lot of the foundations the deep basements of the structure where the amber room supposedly was stored survived survived which is the beginning of gazillion theories about the amber room surviving stories start popping up Adrian's heard and followed them all all such was its enormous value. There's some kind of <hes> <hes> James Bond esque villain villainous empire. That's kept it on display underground K maybe it's in North Korea submerged in a flooded mine between Czechoslovakia and Germany <hes> you know there are endless stories are saying as some of them have an incident allergic to them but any of them defy the the primary material that is available Adrian points to the fascination with the amber room as a real problem because because along with this explosion of potential true timelines for what happens to it after the war comes an explosion of people trying to capitalize on the mystery like actual we'll treasure hunters art nerds people who really want to recover this thing so we called in partnered who's trying to recover things quite busy trying to recover things in fact Act Scott me now. You're GONNA ask away. This is Christopher a Maranello. He's a lawyer and the C._E._O.. Of Art Recovery International Dr Specialty Not at Art Recovery International is recovering stolen and looted worse bar Chris uses databases contacts in the art world old and a boatload of lawyer know-how also a general art history knowledge to chase things down that have been lost half of his work is pro bono because he says he wants to help museums churches and even governments get art back. Most people think that law enforcement is up to the task of recovering all the stolen artwork in the world. It's simply not true. Law Enforcement is underpaid understaffed and that's why organizations exist like Art Recovery International Chris has a specialty recovering artwork stolen by the Nazi's Chris also gets a lot of creative tips. I'm staring at on my screen at a twenty eight page document that at somebody sat me from Serbia today of artwork that they swear is available everything from Davinci's to bask yet. It's a collection of the most horrific fakes you've ever seen so we asked him. Has He ever heard of the ember room. I get approached by a lot of people about the amber room. Usually it's six people who claim they know where it is are looking for a finders fee from me or from someone else you know whenever I asked for a shred a shred shred of evidence. Nobody's able to come up with any Chris says he's never seen a lead not one that Would've come forward by now. There was one thing that happened a break in the case so to speak in nineteen ninety-seven these amber mosaics are discovered covered from the room. It was a huge news story at the time they were in the possession of German soldiers family but Adrian says this trail doesn't go anywhere air because the pieces are actually from when the room was disassembled in Saint Petersburg so they won't help people find the location of the rest in a way this proves one the theories that in the chaos of the war some of the German soldiers might have made off with pieces of the Amber Room but unfortunately Adrian our real heel deal expert. He is not an optimist like at all and I think I'm the wrong person to go through the theories because I'm kind of feeling like the guy who killed field sensor are there any of the crazy theories stories of its continued existence that resonate with you Danny of these give you a tiny glimmer could be reflected in amber of ooh theories familiar crazy in none of the musically Adrian saying clauses dead. I'd love to be proved wrong I would. I'm not a hard. I'm not I'm not gonNA hard for someone to find it to prove them wrong but at the moment the primary history is not tilting in that direction at least he gave us <music> at the moment and not tilting in that direction true and also this is where the ember room story gets even more interesting over and over the amber room I and who possesses it is a demonstration of might the whole history of this eighth. Wonder of the world is tangled up in hundreds of years of these power struggles roles according to Adrian the continuation of the mystery actually has a lot to do with continuing power struggles after World War Two ends. I think I think the end of nineteen forty five is <hes> pretty much one of the first visit by a curator assigned by K._G._B.. And there's a parallel inquiry. That's it's made them but the stars he was not the East German secret place and so you have two masters of untruths Moss's a propaganda who become involved but also to ruthless organizations and within those organizations you also have cultural truth tellers curator's is who themselves would like to get to the bottom of this story and you know if that truth does not match the political needs then <hes> one one sees what happens to these truth tellers and so starts an era where people trying to get to the truth of the ember rooms fate meet unfortunate fates of their own a story we know because again these organizations known for being dubious for Democracy are actually pretty great when it comes to bureaucracy documenting everything and in the first them Sean Gotcha documents that <hes> that came to line. We see that the K._G._B.. And the Ministry of Culture had joint mission the mission sense an extremely capable investigator and archaeologists. If you've been working in Moscow he fought a report back to Moscow his conclusions were that it was likely the amber room was destroyed. droid immediately he submits reports and the report passes passes its way up towards Moscow reaching the inner circles of of governments he is exiled is never forgiven. I'm coming up with the answer to the question of where is now a coach that is elevated uh-huh k._G._B.. As Russia's greatest treasure even though as a Prussian treasure you know how people talk about how many instances Mrs of something equals at trend there are enough examples of bad things happening to people around the amber room that there is talk of a curse General Gustav Russian Russian intelligence officer talks about to journalist killed in a car crash a former German soldier George Stein who has hunting for the artwork also dies unexpectedly actively and in Bavarian forest these things happened years ago but obsession with the amber room and really strange political theater around it continues today with for instance the current leader of Russia Vladimir Putin and his eleven million dollar reconstruction of the ember room which appropriately also took over a decade eight to finish twenty-five years. Actually you know he made make great play of the fact that this one of this new one had been resurrected as the memorial to the loss Russia's Germany and one of the funders of the amber room and of the launch party was a German Mond Gas Company that was looking for Egress in rushing business the idea of opulence in excess being associated with wheeling and dealing between the powerful. Oh and potentially corrupt is familiar right the room itself is <hes>. It's a massively Gordy. Almost <hes> plastic hated AH Nouveau Riche Footballer's wife Nightmare. It's just awful really it's it's amazing how similar Putin and trump are when you really that room would be perfect and more log okay take issue with this comparison if you want but just for the record you know those pictures of President Trump's New York City penthouse you know with the gold toilet and all the gold leaf everywhere aware it's supposed to evoke the style of the palace of Versailles. It's all kind of got similar vibes right but digs on the nouveau riche aside the ember rooms is legacy might have important lessons about negotiation between world powers so will the original amber room ever be found Adrian says no way it was almost definitely blown to smithereens in Kerns Berg Castle but it's still being used not just for negotiation and for manipulation so whenever the Germans Evan complains the Russians would point to the amber room when anyone talks about loss they would use as the amber room is the symbol of loss cultural loss financial loss rape and pillage of palaces and cities and it became a

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010: Overcoming Discouragement | The Living Room

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

14:14 min | 1 year ago

010: Overcoming Discouragement | The Living Room

"The tools living room to grow a space of grace to become everything that God wants us to be. You're listening to the living room podcast with Joanna Weaver. Hey beautiful friends. I hope you're having a wonderful day but in case you're not well. I've got an episode for you. I I was talking to some friends I and asking them what they would like me to talk about and one of them said I really like you to talk about. Overcoming discouragement and you know what I had just gone through a period of discouragement in felt the Lord Se Hoon Joanna China. Maybe you should stop nursing and rehearsing your frustration and start looking to me for answers so it was really a timely question and so I kinda sat down and jotted down the things that the Lord has been teaching me in my own periods of not so greatness. Do you ever have one of those days. You know that was kind of days where everything goes wrong kind of like the kids book Alexander and the terrible horrible no good very every bad day. I think we've all had those kind of days. But what do we do when those days become a week in a week a month and then even perhaps a year. What do we do when that darkness? Darkness in discouragement just won't lift how do we get out of the darkness and put our hope and guide well as I mentioned I had gone through a period of discouragement last fall. I was responsible for a whole whole bunch of different things and a lot of step was on my plate and to be honest I felt a little overwhelmed but God was so good to give me the strength to complete all of those responsibilities and yet afterwards. I just felt like a hit a wall. Have you ever had that happen like just <hes> things are going great but then Bam there you are and you don't quite know how to get over it or under it or around it. All you know is that you feel a little bit stock in I had still had some really important things that I needed to get some forward movement on but I it was like I was slogging through wet cement and I just couldn't get any forward forward momentum. You know sometimes discouragement stops small and it's just kind of that niggling thing and we're able to distract ourselves with business but if we don't if we don't deal with that discouragement sometimes it can start to grow until it's like a heavy cloud. The dictionary defines discouragement as a loss of confidence or enthusiasm and boy. Did I feel that during that time I think all of us have those times in maybe even today's Today's one of those loss of confidence and you don't feel too enthusiastic sort of days. What do we do well? I was reminded of David and the story that's told in I Samuel thirty he and his mighty man had experienced a great victory for when they got back to their village they found it destroyed and all of their children and wives stolen by raiders. The men were so upset so overwhelmed with grief and anger in discouragment that they actually talked of Tony David. You know I try to put myself in the place of David I. I think that I would have been a little bit upset with them. After all. I've done for those guys they were turning on me. I mean he was dealing with his <music> own discouragement his own grief though owned heaviness of responsibility of this terrible tragedy I love what bursts six tells us but David strengthened himself in the Lord and I oh I think that's what you and I need to do on those days where there's just a little bit of discouragement in on those days when we have hit a wall of discouragement that just has left us fallen flat. We need to number one get alone with God. I think that that's how David strengthened himself in the Lord. I found that it's really hard to strengthen myself in the Lord in the middle of life. I need to get a loan with him and then I need to pour my heart out to him. I guess what you guys he can handle. He can handle it. He can handle our pain and our confusion our frustration and fear even our anger he can handle all our questions but we can't and if we keep all of that bottled up inside if we don't pour it out him it's GonNa come out. Sideways girls and it's not gonNA be pretty. I think that I could probably say that from experience. Discouragement bottled up will come out in some sort of negative way so get alone with God but the number to invite God into the equation you know. I think a lot of my discouragment comes from the fact that I believe the lie that I'm all alone and it's all up to me. I have to figure out I have to figure it out. There's no one to help me in. No wonder I'm overwhelmed discouraged because here's the deal my wisdom Kim. My strength is limited but the good news is this God strength and wisdom isn't and he invites us in James One twenty two to ask him for wisdom. The Bible says if anyone lacks wisdom he should ask God God who gives generously to all in the listen to this part without finding fault in other words. He doesn't say hey listen girl. I gave you wisdom yesterday and you totally ignored it no wisdom for you. He's she's not like that instead. He invites us to come to him and ask him for wisdom. In James went twenty two promises it will be given him. I've found that when I get alone with God and invite him into to the equation pouring out my heart to him something happened so beautiful it's as though he helps me to step back from the situation and begin to have the perspective that I need his perspective. I love this graphic that I I saw on facebook. Last year. It was a picture of a ruler or a scale of some sort on the left side and then these words said how big is your problem on a scale from zero to God you know when. And we bring God into the equation and we begin to get his perspective. We see what looks like an impassable obstacle to us is really an opportunity to go deeper with Jesus and to see him move in our lives in ways that we've never experienced before so get alone with God invite God into the equation in the number three declare what you know not what you feel. Oh my goodness you guys. I am a big feeling girl. I tell you what I am constantly dealing with my emotions and if I'm not careful I can I can get caught in the cycle of negative self-talk nursing in rehearsing my my issues and my inabilities my fear and learning that I need to give myself a good talking to emphasis on good kind of like David did when he said why so downcast Oh my soul put your hope P- in God it sounds kind of silly but the Lord has been having me do something a little unusual the last couple of weeks he's challenged me to look in the mirror and speak words of life over myself rather rather than words of death words like you can do all things through Christ who gives you strength Joanna. Oh Joanna he will never leave you or forsake youth. The Lord is your Helper Joanna. You don't need to be afraid in something. Beautiful happens. It's as though that darkness is pushed back in an I find myself standing up a little straighter in feeling a little stronger all because I've declared what I know rather than what I feel number four do the next right thing. Remember our podcast episode with Emily Freeman. I think it's <hes> episode three where she encouraged us to do the next right thing in love. I think so many times when I'm discouraged I get so focused on what I can't do. I miss what I can do so want to encourage you. Look at what's in front of you. You may not be able to accomplish that thing that task that. Net is out of reach right now but there are things that you can do right now. Maybe maybe you need to get out of your bedroom and out from underneath the sheets in go visit a friend of maybe you need to go for a walk or wash. Some dishes break the inertia and the feeling of sickness by doing something do what you can do in the entrust guide to do the rest in finally. I'd like to encourage you to take courage. Take courage because what is discouragement except really a loss of courage. We had it at one time but now it's gone. It feels like the bottom of our hope has fallen out in everything looks black in our inspiration has gone and we don't know if it will ever come back couple of weeks ago my friend to Nokia sent me this conversation that she'd had with God on a text message. It said this I said Lord Lord give me courage. He said take courage. I've already given it oh well. I'll tell you what those words just. Kinda hit me like a two by four up against the head because I had been doing exactly the opposite. I've been asking to help me. I've been pleading I ranked rather than reaching out and accepting what Jesus has already given in John Sixteen thirty three Jesus tells us in the world you will you'll have tribulation but take courage. I have overcome the world while discouragment paralyzes US courage helps us take the next step. Even though nothing in our situation may have changed changed when we take courage we change and girls it's right there. I want you to imagine Jesus just with his hands outstretched with courage with strength wisdom with everything you need for your situation wasted. He's extending it to you and he's saying take it's yours. We're going to have those terrible horrible. No good very bad days every single one of us if you haven't had one lately it's come in my friend but. Rather than giving in to the discouragement I would encourage you to get alone with God invite him into the equation. Declare what you know not what your feel do the next right thing and then take the courage that he offers what if David hadn't strengthened himself in the Lord that day what if he'd given into the anger or given into the grief what if he'd given into despair I didn't realize this but first Samuel thirty and and that whole story of the raiders took place just a few days before saw died in battle in David was crowned King sometimes our greatest discouragements come before our greatest victories and that's why it's so important to push through discouragment with the Lord's help and refused to give into hopelessness and despair Joshua one nine is one of my favorite verses. It's my son Joshua's favourite versus as well. God says these words to Joshua when he was feeling discouraged. The immense task of leaving God's people after Moses died got said to him have not commanded you be strong. Encourages do not be terrified. Do not be discouraged for the Lord. Your God will be with you wherever you go and I want you to take those words to heart today. Jesus is right right here with you. He's holding your hand. He's going to lead you. He's going to give you the wisdom you need. Don't walk this day alone. Invite cheeses to walk it with you well. I hope that's been encouraging to you I now I needed to hear those things again today. Because life can be difficult but we have a mighty mighty guide who's not only willing to give us the strength and wisdom we need but he's willing to give us the courage we I need to do the brave thing the hard thing even if the bravest and hardest thing we do is getting out of bed. I love you Fran. I'm just so grateful that you're tuning into these podcasts. It means so much to have you leave comments on facebook and at the blog as well as leaving reviews on itunes in means a lot if you're not part of our private facebook group the Living Room I'd love to have you join us. Just go to facebook dot.

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BLOODSTAINS IN THE COMFORT ROOM | TRUE PHILIPPINE GHOST STORIES BOOK 2

Stories Philippines Podcast

09:25 min | 9 months ago

BLOODSTAINS IN THE COMFORT ROOM | TRUE PHILIPPINE GHOST STORIES BOOK 2

"This episode is sponsored by inker. Podcasting is so much fun and now it's easier than ever to start your own podcast with anger. Everyone is passionate about something for example. I love talking about spooky stuff. Now thanks to Anchor. You can spread the word about the things you love and maybe even make some money doing it. Start Your podcast for free with anchor using the anger APP or by going to anchor on. Fm They'll even distribute your show for you. You'll be heard on spotify apple podcasts. And many more of your favorite podcast platforms. Anger also provides tools to allow you to record. And Edit your show from your computer and even from your phone and no matter how big or small your audience is you can make money from your podcast. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. I using her. And it's been the best podcasting platform. I've been a part of so. Join me. Start Your podcast today by downloading the anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM. We all have something to say. Things bloodstains in the comfort through written by. Judy may hit on Emma. A friend of mine told me. This story of Had Soul hunting the building where she work. My friend works for the Daily Tribune. Her office occupies the nine and the last floor for building along Decarlo several years ago when they first moved into the building my friend and her fellow employees were warned about working late in the building because of supposedly strange Erie goings on particularly in the conference room of their floor. According to them the elevate or a quick all type that move at the snail space would often act up whenever someone was working late in the building. Sometimes it would stop. But when the door spokesman there would be no one there to get in some light inside the vestibule with flicker on and off sometimes there would be sound of a woman sobbing and crying for help balloon. No our view. Please help me have mercy on me. They also warned newsmen that weird occurrences happening in the conference room on the ninth floor like faucets being turned on by themselves. Jeter at first. The newsmen shrug off. This deals as a regular ghost stories associated with buildings but several days later he began experiencing strange things. Swell many of them needed until the newspaper is put the bed. Eleven o'clock every night so a lot of them stay in the office quite leap as a result many of them have experienced the weird occurrences in the building one day. The whole newsroom was shaken by a blood curdling screams coming from the conference room dropping everything. Everyone rushed over to the bathroom. And they're one of the proofreaders. Stood speechless in front of the Mirror. With a look of horror blustered face. The proof reader pointed silently to the mirror. Blood was splattered all over the mirror. All of a sudden the faucets turning themselves on everybody fled the bathroom. Did the safety of the newsroom where they heard leap with the paper to bed so they could go all home after that. Nobody wanted to go to the conference room alone after few weeks of that the strange manifestation transferred to the office suite wheelchairs with turn on their own computers would switch on and off late at night and late nights. Staffers would sometimes here the Clicky clack of keyboards although no one was working on them then they heard that one of the guards in the building actually resigned because he was an apparition he claimed. He saw the distorted bloody face of a woman when he was doing his rounds. After months of fear some of the employees contracted spirit questors to help them get the rule of the weird sightings but the editor in chief did not want to believe they're ghost stories and refused to cooperate. I know calico yen. That's nonsense just concentrate and your jobs. She said mom along peace of mind. Nick data bowel latter. Nasa be is only our own peace of mind especially when we worked late at night one of the proofreaders said so they proceeded with the session spirit. Questors called the spirit of the women whose bloody face the guard into resigning. After contacting the woman he proceeded to probe what's happened to her according to the spirit questors like watching everything on television or the silver screen. The woman gave a vivid scenario of what had transpired in the past. The building was once a condominium and among the occupants of the building was the woman and her husband the woman a beautiful mysterious was a battered wife. Her husband would slap her around drug her across the floor for the slightest infractions of his rules and he would give heating her until she was bruised and bloodied about an hour. Muna by Mona. Please have mercy step already. She would bleed over and over again to no avail. It seemed as though her husband derive great pleasure from seeing her suffer one day her husband came home and shouted for her to come out of the bedroom when she came slap her hard across the right cheek. The force of the blow pushed her the ground. Nuba but moss in a while. What did you hit me for? The woman cried indignantly. Her husband didn't speak instead. He drug her from the Living Room to the Conference Room. By the hair and deal. Her skull bled there. She was hit again and again. Finally he slammed her head into the bathtub. Spitting her skull wide open and killing her on the spot blood spurted over the bathroom on the wolves on the floor and the bathtub on the Bathroom Mirror. The woman died not knowing why her husband was punishing her. The questors ask the woman what they could do to alleviate her pain. She said she was looking for a Koran. The slamming Bible. The building has been renovated a long time ago. They were not sure where to look for a grun- nor who to ask about it because of this her anguish so continues to haunt the building pleading with unsuspecting workers to have her and leaving bloodstains and comfort through a chatter. As far as I know she east still there.

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026: The Art of Becoming Us with Beth McCord | The Living Room

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

44:30 min | 1 year ago

026: The Art of Becoming Us with Beth McCord | The Living Room

"Tools for living room to grow a space of grace to become everything. God wants us to be. You're listening to the Living Room. Podcast with Joanna. Weaver a facade. Twenty six welcome back to the series that we're doing in the month. February on love and marriage. I'm really excited to have Beth. Mcchord back with us again. She is in any Graham coach expert in Cheang her husband. Jeff have written a wonderful book called becoming US using the any Graham to create a thriving. Gospel centered marriage. Hey you guys if you haven't yet listen to the last episode episode twenty five. You're definitely going to wind up. Pas this one and go back because Oh my goodness even if you're familiar with the any Graham. Beth does a masterful job describing each type in their motivations. It'll give you an idea of which of the nine personality types you might fall in but I would encourage you to take the self assessment test over at your any Graham coach Dot Com as well and I'd love to have your spouse do it as well because that's how you're going to get the most out of today's episode. Paul wrote these words in Philippians one nine and it's what I desire for this series. Listen to what he writes. And this is my prayer that your loved me abound more and more in knowledge in-depth insight. I really believe that the any Graham can help us understand each other in a deeper more meaningful way and I can't wait to hear what has to say about this when it comes to marriage. Let's dive in while. I'm really excited to have Beth. Mcchord back with us today. She is the author along with her husband of becoming us. Using the any Graham to create a thriving. Gospel centered marriage in. You might be wondering what the INSTAGRAM is a Beth? Can you just give us a little little idea? That I'm going to be pointing them back to the last episode where we talk about it in more detail. But what is the yes so the Ingraham really is a map of self understanding of why we do what we do. versus just our outward behaviors in the Ingraham. If you think of as an internal. Gps It's GonNa let you know your main type or your current location but also the healthiest destination for your personnel type. It becoming more like Christ in how he designed you but also is going to let you know when you veer off course into those comment pitfalls we find ourselves and get frustrated at ourselves but the integration can be alert system like a rumble strip on a highway. That can say hey. If you keep thinking feeling behavior in this particular way you're going to fall into that same pitfall so why not surrendering depend to the Holy Spirit and come back and get back on. Track focusing on who? God has called you to be which is being more like Christ. So that isn't a very quick nutshell but there's nine basic personality types or nine ways of seeing the world interpreting the world and reacting to the world That are unique to each of the personality types and they're valid perspectives and so we just want to learn how to take off our own lenses for a second and put others on so we have more compassion and empathy and grace and mercy in our relationships so that we can work better together That is so good and I especially love your approach to the any Graham Because it's very much. Gospel centered in. Its very much bringing God into the equation. I think the thing that excites me about the any. Graham is that it really gives us a chance to see someone else's point of view because you know when we when John and I I got married. We had so much in common. We had both been raised in a Christian home. We love Jesus with all our heart. We both felt called ministry so I thought Oh my goodness this is a match made in heaven. This is going to be Gloria. Then it turns out that when the Bible says that the two shall become one That's a process that doesn't happen on the day. You say I do. How was it for you when you and Jeff got married? Yeah well we got married. Will you're twenty so you could imagine we didn't even know ourselves little on each other and it was the same you know. I think everyone obviously gets into marriage. Because I think it's going to be the most glorious thing grand experience because they are experiencing that in their dating life at least mostly. That's why they choose marriage but then soon after marriage things kind of shift real life hits you start to realize you're seeing the world differently you don't understand why they're not doing it the way you do it Just can spiral out of hand. Going from what we thought was a ballroom. Dance into feeling like we're playing the game twister in stumbling over each other in that he's just really almost normal. You know but we WANNA learn how to understand each other better so that we come alongside each other and support each other in the way God designed us but also to own our own faults and to grow in the areas that we need growth as well exactly exactly. Well I know for me. It was so so beneficial to come to the understanding. That just because Jon didn't see life the same way it didn't mean that one was right in one was wrong or even that one was better than the other I love a your approach in the book. I really hope that our listeners will go and buy becoming us because it so practical and like I said in the last episode which you guys if you have not yet listened to the last episode with Bath I really WANNA encourage you. Because she goes through the nine types in detail and she does it in the framework of of what your core longings are. What your motivations. All these different things. He talks about the strengths as well as the weaknesses which really I think it was that That list of characteristics of the any Graham. That really helped me kind of pinpoint where I was coming from. And then also were. My husband was coming from and so what I'd love it. If you wouldn't mind doing is just kind of take us through the different types in and maybe even Talk about each type as to. What do they bring to marriage? What are the good things that they bring to the world because like I said a lot of times we think that the way we see things is the only way and when I began to value who John was in the fact that he was not just like me? That's when everything changed Yeah yes so. Each personality style guide has you know uniquely created and when he creates something as good And so what we want to think of. As the body of you know that there are different. Personality styles that bring A reflection of God naturally to the world and that is really what we want to celebrate and focus on a so when we think about the body of Christ We want to not just see why people are different than us. Some put them down for not being what we think is as good as us in fact we wanna see and celebrate what God has instilled in them naturally and how they reflected in this beautiful way. So yes I'd be happy to go round all nine types and kind of give a glimpse is to the beautiful attributes that they bring win there at a healthier state. Because obviously when we're not doing well we're not going to just naturally exhibit these things but when we're doing well we will naturally just this will permeate from us. People really enjoy it so would go ahead and start. Yeah and and maybe. I'll let you decide how you want to do this. But maybe as you describe each type I'd love to have you also talk about how we can love that type better because I think there are so many facets that we miss and we tend to love the way we want to be loved and yet I really believe I think it was Gary Smalley who said that. We need to be a student of our spouse in really learn what they need. Yes absolutely I'd be happy to do that so so I'll go through. All nine types in will do is for each type. I will say the wonderful attributes that they just naturally Bring to You know us and how they reflect God and then I will piggyback on that same type it with how to show them love so that way we keep. It all cohesive together So our type ones are the moral perfectionists and again like you said in the last episode. I go over Wyatt type. One is a type one through their core motivation. So if you're listening to this before the last episode definitely go back in listen to why the type one is a type one But the type one is immoral perfectionist. And they bring a reflection of God's goodness and rightness and what that really means is ones have this amazing ability to see a no what is right and what is good and to highlight that into encourage others and themselves to walk in that goodness and rightness in that reflects God because God is the most right right. He's the most righteous and good And so we love the fact that the ones know what that looks like and to aspire to go there if they bring wisdom and depth and insight to things that some of us will overlook or Miss. They know how to look at details. And so when you're talking about loving a spouse that has a type one or could even be a kid you know your kid or a parent or CO worker Things that you want to remember is to remind your type one often that you love them and Christ loves them We WanNA recognize the type. Ones have allowed in a critic. That is berating. Them and assaulting them with all the things that are wrong Whether within themselves or outside themselves and it's it's just a constant oppressive assault is what we WANNA do is first and foremost show them. How Christ has freed them condemnation in how he gave them his righteousness so that when God looks at them he seeing Christ's righteousness and not telling all their wrongs because that has been taken away so important to constantly have that reframe into bring encouragement to the one because they're constantly getting beaten up by this inner critic and so we want to point out that we're thankful for the things that they do notice how they give us advice. That is solid untrue Now it may land on us as being critical but if we can see it from their lands will see that their hearts intention is usually to help and so we want to thank them for their helpful cut a mindset towards us And then ask for forgiveness win. We might have done something wrong. Just own it. Apologize And let reconciliation happen very quickly and didn't say lastly is to be responsible for your like domain your area of life They're constantly feeling like they have to be the only adult around and lifting the load or pointing out to everyone. What needs to happen but if you take sincere responsibility and let them know that you want to partner with them in the things that need to get done but you also want to have fun and do it. Together that would be a real A real reprieve for their soul that they don't feel like they have to be the only one so that's our type one. Oh my goodness that is so good. There's somebody out there listening. That is just had a huge. Aha Moment. I love this. I love this. Okay so tell us about number twos okay so our tunes are supported advisors and they naturally bring love and nurture to the world. That's how they reflect. Guide is through love and nurture They see a no other people's needs emotions like they. Literally walk into a room in a intuitively know And so they know how to serve and move into someone's life in a very hopeful way then is just so beautiful just like Jesus knew that we needed a savior and he came and did it for us. He served us in that way But so what? How does show the to love is giving them the affirmation and the appreciation of what they do on our behalf That is so important for us to recognize the the heart of the two but we also know remind them that their love for simply being them but they don't have to do all these things in order for us to love them. We actually love them. Unconditionally it doesn't mean you don't think them for what they did but we just really want to hone in on. Those things are really awesome and good. I so appreciate them but I just love you. It's a real hard concept for the twos to believe they can be loved without doing some helpful service to others And just to remind them how cherish they are by God that he wants them and pursues them unconditionally. have is absolutely a valuable To help them to rest in who they are versus having to do so. Then are tight. Three is a successful achiever and they bring hope in radiance that is how they reflect. God and man can be so radiant and they have the ability to just really know what needs to get done and how to do it with great efficiency and success and it really is beneficial to those around them when they're doing it in this way but we also want to realize. Is that type? Threes believe they have to achieve in order to be loved and they need others to see or no or experience that achievement in order for them to say. You're amazing you're great admire you but what we. WanNa do is we want to definitely give them the feedback that they are great because I do amazing things and we appreciate all the efforts that they have that we love them for simply being them. They don't have to accomplish anything in order to earn that love. That would mean so much to type three. But we also want to reflect. How God does that to say? God knew that they couldn't achieve what they ultimately needed so he sent Christ to be that perfect person who achieved everything that was needed on their behalf and that they can rest C. threes are constantly going to the next thing on the next thing to achieve this this next level but now they can realize oh. My achievements are Christ achievements. I can exhale instead of being a human doing. I can be a human being and we want to constantly point that out to them with much appreciation of who they are but also how they can rest and being their authentic self Then our type fours are a romantic individualist and they bring creativity and depth and this is so remarkable because beauty is something that we all just are enamored by right like when you see a beautiful flower or a beautiful landscape. I mean it's just like you can't help it. Stop and look at it. And the uniqueness the design that God has given so they bring a lot of creativity in beauty to the forefront but also bring depth and meaning and purpose especially when it comes around emotions and it really reflects Christ because Christ not only the joys of life but he also was a man of sorrows. He understood the pains that we went through and force are wonderful at being there with us in the midst of suffering and sorrow in that China. Just fix us but just being there. And it's such a remarkable gift that they give us but we also want to recognize of how we can love our force so I feel like there's something defective and flawed within them at something's missing something foundational and so they feel like they have to be unique in different and to be seen for the uniqueness of difference in order to be loved but Christ created them uniquely to be them and he doesn't make mistakes so they're not defective in flawed even though they feel like it so even though we may not fully understand a four we can say. I want to know you more. I want to get to know you more but I also want you to remember how beautiful you've been designed by Godwin Guy. Create something he says it is good and I want you to in helping them to remember that. Even when there's a soon Nami of emotions that may say otherwise you know that's not true and so we want to constantly reflect back to them the beauty that God has created in their unique design. Then our type. Fives ARE INVESTIGATIVE THINKERS. And they bring wisdom and Truth C. Fives love to pour into research and knowledge and absurd of the world and they look to see things and like literally pull them apart and put them back together again whether their concepts or real things And so they love to get into the minutia of knowing how things work but with that they have so much depth of knowledge that when it rises in a very healthy way they bring insights and truth that are its wisdom and it's remarkable now how we can support our five is to understand five. A lot of people actually don't understand fives Especially if you're on the extrovert spectrum. Or You really enjoy connecting with people on multiple levels and for long links of time. This would be hard for you to understand a five because the fives in our world. It's as if they wake up every day being plugged in and kind of restoring their energy their interactive battery life. Every day would be like a cell phone when you wake up every day. Even though it's plugged on I only having twenty to twenty five percent interactive battery life for the entire day. So they need to know what's happening that day how to ration it out So that it doesn't deplete for them if it goes to zero it's catastrophic depletion annihilation. It's gone they'll never be able to recharge it again now. That may seem extreme to the rest of us but if we all understand our own hangups in hell they're probably not true You'll recognize that. This is how it's hardwired into a five so you'll feel some resistance boundaries. Going up from a five because they feel like they can't give more than what they have so a great thing that we can do for our fives to say. Hey we're going to go out with a Smith's tonight In these are the things are happening during the day. What would be beneficial for you to be at your best to go. Hang out with the smiths. I know a lot of times you will you kinda feel depleted in. It's hard for you to go. How can I serve you? Best at war if he comes home. Let's say your husband or your wife comes home from work and there are five and you're going to go to the Smith number one. Don't surprise them. That's not a good thing but if you were to be like hey you know we planned on to go the Smith. I'm sure you had a busy day. You know would you like fifteen thirty minutes to kind of take some time alone to recharge before we go or hang? Where's your battery life? How can I understand where you're at right now? And how can I serve? You like those would be so meaningful for your type five The type sixes are the loyal Guardians and they bring faithfulness encourage The faithfulness of six is so remarkable. They stay very steady instead fast in their loyalty and their commitment in doing the responsible thing for those that they love and that is just remarkable and then at their healthiest. They bring a ton about of courage. 'cause member they're going through their own self doubt and indecisiveness because they have an internal committee that has given them all sorts of scenarios. But you'll what you see. Is that the sixes each and every day rise above that and have courage to do the next things in life and so they'd pre encouraged to us they show us even the midst of anxiety and apprehension. We can be courageous in doing the next thing so one way we can support the sixes is one understanding that they have an internal committee that is causing chaos and confusion and apprehension into understand this and not be like. Oh it's okay. Everything's GonNa be perfectly fine in a way that doesn't show appreciation for what they're going through so just to recognize the struggle of the anxiety of the internal committee for the six to be there to support them to guide them or two point areas where they would feel more safe and secure but letting them know that you are committed. You are loyal your faithful and responsible that they can trust you and to not only say it but demonstrate. It would absolutely be the best thing you can do for your sixes and then a few more. We got three more. The type sevens is the entertaining optimist. Now they bring joy and abundance and seven's absolutely know how to not just have fun but when they're out there healthiest they savor the moments of life which translates into real joy. And they can it radiates from them and we it's infectious. We have joy along with them but they also bring abundance and it's like they've gathered all of this joy and they want to impart it to us like it almost overflows into our life. And that's what God does as well and so that's why I love how all of these things reflect God in a very unique way but one thing we can do for sevens is recognized that it's really hard for sevens to sit in negatively or anything that is less than positive now that doesn't mean they shouldn't learn but what would be really helpful for the seven is if there's something that is mundane or boring or not fun or actually really hard to recognize that that is extremely difficult for them to sit in so any time that we can bring a sense of reprieve levity to the situation. Maybe even make it fun and exciting. If it's like a chore like make a Game Out of it Make it fun. It doesn't have to be serious all the time that shows them like. I see that those other things are hard for you and I wanna meet you halfway To the best of my ability but also appreciate that. They bring a sense of positivity to a really negative world that really would mean a lot to them and then our aides are protective challengers. They bring power and protection. You Know God is our refuge. He's our strength or shield And that is really what aides are all about. They want to protect themselves. But those in their inner circle and they do it with power and intensity and that's how God is for us you know he is The Hound of Heaven. He is the Good Shepherd he does. All of these things to provide and protect us so we want to affirm our eight in Howell. They do provide them protect us but also to recognize that they have a vulnerable tender side within them that usually only those in their inner circle sees and when you see it let them know how much you appreciate that and how much you long to see that more and more because it's a hard place for them they're afraid they're going to be blindsided or betrayed into show them that they can trust you not just in words but in action and don't blindside them. Don't manipulate them and don't Try TO TAKE CONTROL. Come alongside them and support them. These would be things that could really be beneficial and then last but not least is my type. The peaceful mediator weep bring peace and oneness. We naturally are looking for harmony and peace and we want to bring a sense of steadiness but oneness. Think of a round table where we all can gather that everyone is important and everyone has value. That is what we bring. And that's what we radiate and so how you can show nines Love is to literally not just say that they matter but to demonstrate that they matter give them space to talk to To think through what they want. Get be patient and longsuffering because it can take nines awhile to say what they want to know what they want and to then move in there right action A lot of times in their mind. They're thinking I shouldn't assert myself. I should just let everyone else do it. So that's where long-suffering can come with those that love nines but then also to show the nine how much you appreciate their steadiness their ability to see all sides to bring harmony and reconciliation in relationships and to be that kind of firm foundation that others can stand upon as those will. Just be some really amazing things to come alongside anyone in your life. That is a different type. The New Guinness so I bet you guys are impressed by that. As that was amazing I love how well you know. the Graham but how you point us all to Jesus and in that whole idea that every single type is valuable. Every single type has equality of God that they bring to the world in so I was sitting here thinking. Oh that's my brother. Yeah okay. That's my son that's my daughter and and when we can truly dwell in understanding with each other I think rather than judgment of each other. What A- gift that we give to to not only our our spouse in our immediate family but really to those we work with to those we interact with rather than say what is wrong with them. Yeah we can go. Oh okay. Hey I think I understand. That's powerful. Absolutely it is. It's super powerful in it so important because really that's how God wants us to treat one another right. They will know us by our love. And it's hard to love when we only see the world through our own Lens It's what's interesting is kind of ironic. Is the nines They actually are putting on everyone. Else's lenses all the time in their own so everyone else kinda needs to learn how to put on other people's lenses a little bit more. Some some are good at it. More more black and white But in the nines need to learn to actually put their own lens on as they also use everyone else's a cas nine zero themselves at least in. They need to learn that their presence in the that they have value and worth and to show up with that perspective as well. That is so so good. Will you guys? I do want you definitely pick up this book because all of this incredible knowledge is just scratching the surface and Beth and Jeff have set up the book where the last part gives several is six. Maybe six pages to each type and walk through a lot of what she shared in the last episode but also much of what she sharing here and even more and I love how. The Graham itself shows us Here's your strings but here's your weaknesses. Here's how you grow towards health. Here's where if you're not doing well unhealth your this is going to be some of your actions. I have just. I've personally learned so much. A one of the other things that we talked about in the last Episode is that That there are wings there are there are different layers in so you may go well. I don't I don't see myself. Will one of the things that you can do is you can go to To the at your any Graham coach Dot Com and you can take a free test and then also you can take what you've learned and tell us what they can do when it comes to marriage or working with other people yes so obviously. The book is a great resource but we also have a couple of other resources. That in your marriage you might be interested in if you WANNA take it. A little further We have a course called exploring you and this is my prerecorded. Coaching sessions focused on a particular type. So if you're type two in your husband is a six than you would by type two for yourself and you had by the six for him. But you'd WanNa Watch them together and be amazed at what you're learning about yourself but then also amazed about what you're learning about your spouse like oh my goodness. I didn't realize that and then there's reflection questions that you guys can use to have discussion. And then when you're done with the exploring new courses you can also go to becoming US dot com where we have forty five courses for all forty-five couple types and there's a course specifically for the two of you whether you're a type two in a six combination a nine nine combination you name it. There's a course for you and this is where I explained on daybreak level. How the two of you interact when you're not doing well and when you are doing well or the hope that lies before you with transformation in the Gospel and it's very specific it's geared towards the two of you which kind of way I suggest doing exploring new course first to really get to know your cells well to start that conversation and then this course is a video camera in your house. How does she will that way do this? But the whole point is to not feel Convicted away whether it's condemnation shame in fact it's the opposite. I want you to see the hope that you have in Christ in that. He has already accomplished all that you need in an through through his life death and resurrection and as we surrender and depend on him and walk in faith with the spirit. He will renew our hearts day after day in our in ourselves and then in our marriage and our families and so that becoming us course is going to be vital for you guys to take this like as far as you can absolutely go and again that's at becoming US dot com excellent and you'll also find a free marriage assessment just to kind of give you a taste of what you can expect in that. Course I'm so excited about this message in the tools that you have available to help us dwell with each other in understanding because I had become in our own marriage in those early years so discouraged and so disappointed and I couldn't understand why my husband couldn't understand me and he was just as frustrated on the other side was interesting. God did this whole process of healing our marriage that I'm going to talk about over the course of these podcasts. As the years go by it but one of the big things was we took this simple cognitive process test as a staff a church staff in. We'd never done anything really like that. And all of a sudden I began to see how John Processes Life is is in diametric opposition to the way that I process life then all of a sudden like that one point you make about the nines like give them time I. I'm that girl who's like you. I've got an opinion I wanted decision. I want action right away and boy learning to just like offer information to John C. Here's the decisions we need to make but then back off and give him time to process all my goodness that transformed our marriage. Yeah absolutely when you consider on the different ways I. I'm kind of curious what you've found in your counseling and just in research of I think there's a part of us that thinks. Oh if I was just if we were exactly the same it would be so much easier. Do you find that if you are the same type that that's an easier life the APP no. I don't say I wouldn't say it's harder and I wouldn't say it's easier What you're GONNA find is types. That are we. Call them double type combination so attuned to nine hundred nine they have. They're going to understand one another a little bit easier and get each other But they also with us have struggles in weaknesses or blind spots are going to become picker blind spots But that doesn't mean that means. That relationship is worse off or harder than another type because another type has their own weaknesses and blind spots. That are just different and it could be harder for them to understand one another so no matter. What couple type that you are? You have to recognize. The key is being aligned with the truth of the Gospel. When you know that that Christ's the spring of living water and that you are like a desert and you are so thirsty. Only the spring of living water can't quench your thirst in Umbrian deep satisfaction. But we think it's GonNa come from our kids our spouse our careers. But they're only like a little water bottle and for a desert that is not gonNa do any good and so once. We satisfy our our thirst with the spring of living water and we're so saturated then when we turn to these little water bottles it's like Oh cool. Thanks that's incredible it because we already filled up and so we just need to recognize that no matter what couple type combination you are Christ. Is there with you both in the more you drink from the source you will see? Your relationship changed. Even if your spouse doesn't you will change and that that changes everything now may not change it to the place that you hope But you will see the transformation you will be so satisfied in Christ. It will permeate an all your life Now hopefully and prayerfully that will change spouse will change and they will be satisfied by Christ in the spring that he offers but that is the work that God is doing in them. If you focus on your own work and not trying to change Nag everyone around you. You will see that God will take care of you. Even if others aren't changing you will find a whole new level of joy in deep satisfaction. So stay focused on. Christ keep your eyes fixated on him and great things happen. Yes and I I. I think we're probably both living proof of that. Because Oh my goodness those those years of frustration and I just kind of shut down emotionally and decided that we would be married singles. He would do his thing and I would do mine. But the Lord in His mercy would not leave us there and as I found myself just so you know lower change him at the Lord. He took me on a three year journey where he basically said Joanna. Get Your hands off my man. I want change you and as I was willing to look at myself and let God have access to me. He began this process of healing. And and I can honestly say John and I look at each other and say Oh my word what we would have missed. Had we not allowed God access to our own souls. And it's so easy get fixated on others. I love the ANAGRAM. Because it's this it's just a tool. It's not a magic quadrant. Like you say it's just a road map. It shows you the rumble strips. I love that so much my son's in driver's training and so those rumble strips. I'm feeling a lot lately. Yes I am and so it's sort of be willing to go okay? Lord I'm going to give my eyes off of them and what they're doing and I'm going to allow you to show me what I need to see. So thank you for doing this. Work Bath it. It's I just feel like it's so important and especially especially because you have taken a tool that is you know. Hey there's a lotta stuff out there. We talk in the last episode about you. Know how? There's some even some controversy but what I appreciate about this. Gospel centered approach to the India. Graham is that points us to Jesus it points as to what it looks like when we drink of that. Well that you've talked about. What would you say to that wife out there who's may be feeling a little like I did or that husband where we don't even know if there's any hope of different marriage? Yeah well that's the good news is there's always hope You know Christ that's what he offers that There's hope there's renewal. It may not look the way we wanted it to look but he will restore he will replenish. He will Eventually reconcile all things to himself. what we can rest on. Is that his life? Death and resurrection did bring us satisfaction but it continues until we go to heaven and so it's it's not a finished. Were stuck with what we have right now. It is an ongoing process and it is what he calls us to do is not pull yourself up by your bootstraps and work harder. It's he's calling you to surrender and depend on him and as we walk in faith in the things that he has asked us to do he. Restores RENEWS IN GIVES US Great? Hope in again. It may not look like anything you expected but he will give you much joy and delight in the way that he sees is best That's so beautiful. I really know that It was not until I laid down my expectations of my husband and begin to accept him rather than expected of him. That our marriage was healed in. I I was just thinking of that. Verse in Romans. Fifteen seven that says except one another then just as Christ accepted you and then it goes on to say that when we do that you guys we bring priest guide there is something beautiful when brethren and sister and. That's how I never quite know how to say that word dwell together in unity and so I just love as we close bath if you if you just pray over those couples and maybe maybe even there's some people they're not married They don't have a spouse but boy. They are struggling in some relationships. But there's come some illumination in there and a chance to step back in and see a different perspective put on different lenses which he just pray for the. Uh us that we would be able to to have that heart to be willing to accept people as they are not as we want them to be. Yeah definitely their Lord. Thank you so much for how. You design us to Have one another as spouses as friends to not be so. Jenner's on this earth but to walk with one another and so I just prayed Lord that no matter if we're married or single and we have friendships and Co workers in a family members that we recognize that there are nine different ways of seeing the world that you created the body of Christ each of us different but also when we unify in our desire to glorify. Great things can happen so just pray that you will help each one. That's listening to learn the different lenses to be able to take off their own for even if it's a brief second put someone else's on to learn what it's like to have compassion and empathy and understanding so that grace and mercy can freely flow through those relationships And we pray most importantly that you are glorified others are blessed in we experience joy in you. Amen Amen. Thank you so much from being with US Beth. I I look forward to chatting with you down the road. You have anything any new projects on the horizon. What we're going to be doing a lot of becoming us Events actually the spring we have twelve. And so we're GONNA be going to different cities People can becoming US dot com to see if we're near you And so we've got that on the horizon and a few other podcasts. Were probably GONNA start a PODCAST Yes so we got a few things on the horizon but Last year was our big year with launching ten books and the marriage course for forty five couple types and then we have become an integral coach. Course We can certify coaches to use this in their own. Whether it's you know as a coach or maybe your counselor or some sort so we revamped that last year so we took blessed mother so just to kind of take a deep breath and get ready for this year. So we're looking forward to meeting more people around the country with becoming. That's I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did. God has put so many different kinds of people with different viewpoints in our lives and he did it for a purpose. Equations for two instructs us with all humility and gentleness with patience except one another in love. And that's what the India Graham can help us do. I hope that you'll go over to the show notes found at Joanna. Weaver BOOKS DOT COM forward slash zero to six. And while. You're there check out the giveaway that we're hosting on facebook. Beth has been so kind to offer a copy of her book as well as her online course called discovering you. It's filled with tools to teach you more about the nine personality types as well as help you drill down to discover which one you fall within so there you have it. The Gospel centered in Graham next week. My pastor hubby deer is going to be joining us on the podcast and I am so excited but also a little bit nervous. We're going to talk honestly about how we've learned to appreciate and embrace our differences in marriage but we're also gonNA share ways that we found to help us balance family in ministry so I hope you'll join us and hey if you enjoy the living room podcast would you consider subscribing on your favorite podcast platform. It's completely free. And here's the wonderful deal you'll automatically receive all the new episodes right there in your phone. You don't have to go searching for me. 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Game of Bogeys

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Game of Bogeys

"You're that saw I. It's my understanding that that has hit number one on all the billboard charts Because it's played to intro the steam room the second most popular podcast in the history of media a are now. I think when you get a theme song you have physically made it. I think so too. I think so too if imagine if that if that had lyrics to it. I'm after work on some lyrics to the steam room theme song. We gotta get us a famous single. They like put some words into it. Okay Yeah we'll work on that too will I'll I'll write the music and we'll get someone to to sing the theme song for the Steam Room. Anyway we're spinning our wheels here at the outset and I hate it when we do that because we have so much to get to today. Nick Sabin is going to be a guest here in the steam room today also The Malam Brothers Adam and Craig the brains behind the game of zones which is absolutely brilliant coverage of the NBA. From a game of thrones standpoint. Tim Kylie will be along as he is Almost every week so we got a lot to get going and and this is This is going to be a very very entertaining Podcast despite which you may have already heard so far which has been a kind of boring but it's never boring when Charles brings us first of all I could listen to them. Iraq Harry Song. Every day I met blow a few times in my life. That's a pretty man. First of all personal caroline another thing. I don't even think kills the thing I I never used Kalani. Come on. I'm serious. Well early almost say some product to the set of wide back so there is a guy riding a unauthorized biography about me is name is Timothy. Bella so I've had a bunch of my friends in the last six months to a year calling me and asking me to comment on the book. What I've what I have told my friends is. I have nothing to do with the book. I'm not involved in any form shape whatsoever. I left it up to them to speak to this guy but I think he's inferring that I'm involved in the book and I just WanNa make it perfectly clear and listen my close friends. I don't talk to this guy. I'm sure that the France for a reason but I have not told anybody not to talk to this guy. I don't know him at all. Have anything to high But I just wanted to feel that because I keep getting my friends like you'll what do you think dude? I've told you I'm not involved with the book. If you WANNA talk to this guy as to do I will never break your confidence us to do so. I just WanNa make that perfectly. I wished this out nothing but the best but I just WanNa make it clear. I got nothing to do with the book. If you WANNA talk to this guy you can't I got a question for you. Yes 'cause I've gotten a number of emails from this very man and I have not reached out to you to ask about it. I don't know anything about him. I just knew that given the fact that you were not part of this that I'm not GonNa do it so I just don't feel I mean chuck if you were sold on it and you're like Oh yeah hey If you hear from him I'm I'm all on board with this. Go ahead but now can't I can't see myself doing that either. So first of all I don't feel like I have anything to hide him. I I am who I am what I am but see. I always get nervous when you got people calling me. I have spoken to since I was in high school. It is what it is. I can say about a WanNa talk to him. That's fine but like I know my good friends like you'll man because you have a relationship with people you're really conversations of private school even when we speak about new different interviews earn as a earn. A you you cooperating with this whether it's HBO whatever asses you'll man. I'M NOT GONNA discuss early. Learning wants to be discussed but like I say man. I'm very lucky and blessed a great place in my life but I just wanted to make my position clear and it's loud and clear if it's not something that you're that you're onboard with and I'm not going to be on board with it either so So there you go for your first of all anything else on your mind. Yeah I WanNa wish pad the best Found last couple days. He's in a hospital in Atlanta. With the corona virus. Pat Dye is Auburn. He's a he's been Helluva coach. He's a auburn man. So I just WanNa wish Pat Bada Best. Were Damn Eagle and now that you say that I mean how interesting here than on on this show. We'll have auburn represented as you talk about. Pat Dye at Alabama represented by Nick. Saban the legendary head coach of the Crimson tide. Who Will Join US next here? On the steamer for businesses around the world today isn't a restart it's a rethink that's why they're partnering with. Ibm retailers are keeping their systems up as millions of orders move online call centers are using IBM Watson an influx of customer questions with AI and solutions built on the IBM cloud are helping doctors care for patients remotely. Today we're rethinking how business moves forward. So let's get to it. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm DOT com slash. Think to learn more. We welcome you back to the Steam Room. The second most popular podcast in the history of media You can look it up. It's right there and chuck say the two words special guests nick. Sabin joins US head coach. University of Alabama This is a steam room highlight for US coach. We appreciate your being here. Please keep your keep your towel on. That's the only steam room rule that we have and I. I know that you and chuck stir go back a little a little ways. I was looking at a looking at a one on one interview. You guys didn't Tuscaloosa about four years ago. I remember that you know Charles to me an outstanding job you know sometimes when people interview you feel a little bit like you gotta stay guarded. You can't be yourself. I think that people can basically who can disarm you a little bit. Make you feel comfortable which I think he does a great job of I'll maybe it's because I have such respect for him as a player when he was a player and incident mitral piece in the last dance. Even though you guys didn't end up winning it was really a great team that you had when I was at the Cleveland. Browns actually saw that team play. So yeah we do go back. I do appreciate Charles Competitor Great Player. He's a great job from a media standpoint and I always enjoy doing stuff with them coats. Obvious how many years you've been coaching I don't know I'd have to figure out my first year. Coach it was nineteen seventy-three. I was a graduate assistant for coach. Don James can't stay so you can do the math on that. So what is it twenty twenty now a long time own fifty years pretty soon here coach. The reason I asked that question is is this longest. You've ever stay steal my question. Yeah it is. It is the longest I ever stayed still. And and I think we kind of go through stations in life where in a were aspiring to something or whatever and my career was a little bit different than a lot of times. College coaches are college coaches. Nfl COACHES NFL coaches. But for whatever reasons I kinda went back and forth and on our get opportunity in college get an opportunity in the NFL. Then I go back to college so as that progressed. I always not like I wanted to be a head coach in college. I but since I coached Nanna fell for six years. I thought the ultimate goal was to be a coach in. Nfl SOM so I wanNA went to Lsu. We won the National Championship. I said okay. This time was the opportunity Miami Dolphins spray place. But you learn about to sell and we didn't have free agency when I was a coach in the NFL in Houston oilers Cleveland Browns. Which completely changed the dynamics of your team. I am in a lot of ways. It's good for the players. I'm not complaining about it but I've never experienced that I so when I went to the dolphins over the salary cap didn't have any draft picks I made was a tough situation and I found out man. I get so much more positive self gratification. Being a college coach I so I just hope it someday. I can go back to a coach so instead of climbing the ladder. I finally sort of figured out. This is what I'm all about what I WANNA do. And I felt fortunate to be able to get an opportunity to plays like Alabama so once I got here I was thankful and head. Gratitude forgetting your. And we've never ever wanted to league really coach aside from the obvious thing of salaried players versus college. Kids what is the Fundamental Difference Between Coaching at NFL player? Coaching College Layer. And do you have to change? Who you war in that in that Setting I I don't really think there's a whole lot different so I think if you're a good coach in Charleston. Probably ever a good opinion on this too I would be entered sedate. Your what he has to say about a players respect you The motivation is different. You know in college in our players are trying to be better player so they have an opportunity maybe to develop a career as a player so they can make money for their family or whatever is their motivation is a little bit different. I think once you become a professional player out then you WanNa make as much money as you can you out for as long as you can. And there's really nothing wrong with that. So the motivation is different. But if you're a good coach and you can help a guy in either one of those scenarios sort of accomplish the goal that he has ordered a college flair one planning. Nfl Sunday or a professional player who wants to extend his career. I never felt like on the field. Coaching teaching working with players was really any different. The difference is is. What is the motivation? One is totally driven by in money. And the other one. You know you've got young. People who have goals and aspirations and dreams are trying to accomplish and so it's just a little bit different motivation but actual coaching of the player. I think that's one of the most the greatest misconceptions that people have they say well. This guy's a star player. He's got to be hard to coach. Probably listening to the coach. I I never found that to be true at all. I like you know they still want to be good. I still respect the coach now. I think that the premiums probably needs to be on the word good because I think If a player sees coaches a phony or doesn't really know what he's talking about any probably gonNA respect but Fortunately unfortunately I never felt like I ever had to deal with. That was plagued. He's right college players. Most of think they're gonNA get to the pros so they're gonNA LISTEN. To coaching and then a pros they just WANNA win A. That's the bottom line. Everybody wants to win. You don't get some knuckleheads here. There who Michael Listened to coaching. Got A big agenda but I think most players want to win two kids from from a culture standpoint. I think the only difference between content roses. Most all of the players are gonNA listen to you in college and as you saw his last dazzling thing with Michael. You can't coach. Dennis Rodman the same way you coach other guys and to meet a pro czar. You're more your coaching. But you psychologists also I mean because a bill belichick who is great coats trying to close Dennis Rodman. I don't think it would work. I mean the biggest different you have to adjust the personalities in NBA. That's the biggest difference like you can take Scotty Pippin. Who's a great player bike? I'm not gonNA play 'cause I WANNA have They're not gonNA pay me some way to have surgery right now. Man You gotta play so that was an interesting thing about it. Hold back a memory. You got to see all aspects of the pros because Ernie I'll tell people they say what's your biggest takeaway from the last as I says to think about this. You see all the internal conflict going on between coaches and players clears players coaches and general managers and Ernie they won six championships. Your all the crap that goes on bad teams and except that they won six championships and they still got all this stuff. So the piggyback on coaches point. I think the hardest thing for coach. He is man. Like I got to make all this thing where everybody's got their own agenda but how pull it together for the betterment of the team to be the biggest difference one of the things that I sort of piggyback onto that was I felt my experience as a? Nfl Coach for eight years was probably the best experience in terms of my professional growth and development as a coach because of this one point which trolls sort of to before I went in the NFL announce a college coach. I'd really coached every player. The same coach. Same Technique. I treated him all the same So being fair and honest with players intriguing them all the same is not. It's different okay so when I learned in the NFL. I is that you have to coach a player for his style of play as well as as personality in other words. You can't treat everybody the same I in you like. I have frank minutes failed to never some balls in. Cleveland could not be two different kind of corners. Frank was a smaller guy. Rapes fee great. Change of direction. Bray burst really good. Cover Guy was a big Guy. Long arms not real fast but both theory affect the player but their style of play could not been any so. I had to learn how to coach. One guy and a half turn who wasn't a great backpedal. Gosh and the other guy the need to plan half turns you so you have to learn how to coach every guy for what he can do that has been the greatest asset for me coming back to college after that experience. Because you reach so many more players you know you'd see a guy like breaker replay. Your Russ's Long I. He needs to play like every. Mostly I got somebody else like Cyrus Jones. He needs to play. Like fragment official play I so you learn how to get the more and more players now from a physical standpoint but also from a psychological emotional standpoint and I think that that's something that has helped us be successful because we're we're able to get more players to reach their full potential because we don't treat everybody the same you got to be fair and honest. Chantrey them all the same. I learned that coaching and the NFL. Does it ever get personal for you when you'RE COACHING? Your coach to the guy on the other side. Is it ever personal now? No not really coming. You know. There's a lot of guys out there for me. Now that are actually have programs are the of their own in their great job in their programs but now I have a tremendous amount of respect for the guys that because he did a great job when they were here with us or work with us and knowing that it's their goal in aspiration to be able to get the opportunity to be head coach. Because that's what they wanted to be And you know you you WANNA win. I'm and you WANNA win for your team on you WanNa win for your program And I'm sure you respect the fact that they won't win I've never been one like bill belichick in our in the same division. When I was at Miami Hughes New England. We're best friends. We coached together for a long time coach with his dad. So I've known as family for a long time. I wanted to beat him and I knew he wanted to beat us. And I respect that but dislike each other. You know there was no no. You don't have to hate the guy you're planning against. I two one win. A main competitor does not you have to dislike the person you're planning and that may be a motivating factor for you but it's not something that I've sort of relied on through the years you know. I mean I guess it's internal motivation what you want to accomplish versus external motivation. Which is all the things outside of you. That can motivate. You don't need depend on that you're going to be up down for sometimes. That's not going to be there. How confident are you right? Now you're going to play some football. I don't think anybody knows for sure. What the outcome's. GonNa be because I think a lot of its depend on What happens moving forward? I mean if we have a setback with this the spread of this disease. Does that set us all back in terms of what we're trying to do in terms of moving forward I know it's it's kind of everyone's goal to try to have a football season that starts when it's supposed to start like Labor Day weekend has normal schedule as possible. And there's normal playoff situation as possible but I I don't know if that's Owner be realistic or not. I'm hopeful I'm hopeful for the players. you know. There's a lot of players on your team that are looking forward to this season so that maybe they can enhance their value and have an opportunity to play the next level. There's a Lotta guys would like to have a chance to win championship. Sec Championship. Whatever I and they worked hard to try to do that. And if they can play a normal season that's bothering the most the same thing with the with the players and participants. You missed all the spring sports whether it was. You know the golf team their baseball team softball team. Whatever you hated for the participants who worked so hard to have an opportunity announced taken away from through no fault of their own so That's a situation that we don't have to endure and a fall. Assam very hopeful that we'll be able to to play Abo- in some capacity. Now what are the guidelines be? Are we going to have fans? Are you going to have to wear a mask and stand now? Somebody sent me a picture of Georgia Tech Stadium and like nineteen eighteen nineteen seventeen while we were having a Spanish Lou and The stadium was full. They were playing a game. It might only twenty five thousand people back in those days but everybody had a mask. So is that a possibility for us to play for Bone Fox all to minimize you know the possibilities of transmission. I'm these are not decisions that are up to me. They're just things that I'm hopeful will happen there. I heard some conversation that and I really don't like the conversation that somebody's conference. Say A bigwig. Say we should play even if everybody can play What was your thought on that? Like just certain schools plan. I just don't think that'll be fair for the whole but a bitter. Well I I agree with you But let's just take the scenario. What if they can't play in California or they say they can't play in California we play? Usc First Game Tcu place cow for example game So what are they can't plan California but we can play. I which were we obviously can't play game maybe replayed TCU instead of southern cal. 'cause they can't play a a. California school was well but is a fair question to say just because California can't play. None of the other players can participate in play. So that that that's a pretty tough debate I will be for whatever. Players can participate to be able to participate in a may not be completely fair but at least some of the players would have an opportunity to enhance their value and their dream of what they're trying to accomplish as a college student athlete. So I get an Education. Amish is the most important thing. Prepare yourself when you can't play but we all know that a lot of these guys in all have frames plants. Next love a coach. You know or maybe adult. You broke my heart. Two years in a row of our side for the Crimson tide will be today Alabama. Grace Shorto works. I can admit that and I'm still working my way through it being Georgia guy a national championship game. Sec Championship game. How do you characterize those games? Because they were both awesome to watch obviously I. I didn't love the feeling I had in the parking lot afterwards but those college football games right there how do you? How do you describe? Well I think those are two great games. Remain both of them. Blow different scenario in terms of both games. We came from behind in both games. We change quarterbacks to replace Jalen one game Taylor in place to the other. I which I think was a great opportunity for both of those guys to support the other guy. I wish they did a nice job. Which goes a long way to express kind of team chemistry behalf on Georgia had really really good teams? They played extremely willing to game. I mean one play that have decided those James either way we have a tremendous amount of respect or you know Kirby and program as their Georgian players they have and those were. I mean they're great competitive games and and people should really really enjoy the entertainment that those games provide and I know we're all fans And we get emotionally involved in games like this is something we're going to be extremely happy and some people are going to be somewhat disappointed and I'm a resident Atta residents in Georgia to so Georgia do well but Winter Plan Austin. Not at the expense of you. That's for sure. Let me let me throw something out there before Charlton on your way but you talked about fans and it seems to be coached that I mean fans are make a difference in every sport or you know. It's it's huge for every sport but college. Football is is like in a League of its own in terms of tailgating and people from out of town alumni coming in Jilin the place in such inner. Could you see having a college football season without that well to see it To be honest with you because you know there's a spirit of that around college football that is unique to most anything else that I've ever experienced and So many people relate to and I I think in this E it's even more pronounced than anywhere else were country and I think because until I nineteen seventy or something. There were no And South so I don't care where you grow up in Alabama where you grew up in Hannah are Florida or wherever you wrote the in College Football Basketball. You grew up being a college fan. I there was no choice. Like Michigan State Michigan almost fifty six miles down the road. Notre Dame was seventy miles down the road. Detroit LIONS DETROIT Tigers Detroit Red Wings Amanda Detroit Pistons. You grew up as a kid. You had about ten different teams. You could choose to route four if you grew up in Alabama you either liked Alabama you like all. That's where it was. I mean there was. There is no Birmingham Diane's that plays the NFL for everybody route four. So I think that's one of the passion in the. Sec is what it is because some whole generation of people grew up being college football fans. So you have the pros or plan and the college or all tied into one in the SEC. Which I think is pretty unique circumstance. I would absolutely hate it. Either of those people couldn't participate and have fun that they have surrounding the spirit of college. Football game just is what it is. I mean even my kids as simple as it was when they were little it. Lsu logger she wanted to go seek Mike. The Tiger man indicate I. That's a part of the tradition of you know college football Cleveland Browns. When no when many Mike the Tiger to go see I mean it's a different venue either. Still same fans saying kind of action. It's a little different spirit. I that goes along with those two things in a lot of people identify with their college and they have you know a lot of pride in tradition at their college has and you have to respect that. You know in terms of every school each plot. You know being from Alabama. So I'm there quite a bit and I got just a minute. Alabama fans is people auburn advance. You ever get frustrated. Like there's so much pressure on you to go undefeated if you lose. A game is like the end of the world. I get frustrated when I'm there. You obviously have worn so much and you you like if you gotTA LOSE ONE GAME. That's like the end of world there. Well you know. I think that you know sometimes we? We don't try to focus on the expectations that other people have in externally for our program. Marteen it's hard not to listen to the noise but we really do. Try to stay focused on the things that we could control. Which is how do we develop our team Outer Week trying to get our team to be the best that they can be. We have a high standard for what we want to accomplish. The do internally as a team so it's not dependent on what everybody else thinks I do know what you're talking about. I do feel that pain. Sometimes you know because of the expectation but I think the hardest thing for me as a coach to manage is how does that affect play because it does affect your plate. I am That's what I don't like. It creates anxiety because all the sudden not Flan for themselves and their teammates worrying about what everybody else thinks. And I'm not sure that's the best way have fun as a competitor and be the best that you can be at what you try to do. I rather be it from internally from you than externally from someone else but I do. I do know what you're talking about. I do know the feeling I try not to let it bother me at all and just a focused on what we can accomplish in what we can do internally in terms of being the best we can be but sometimes it's not realistic. I mean you can't look for starters. Front seven was the quarterback was great player. A leader Xtra teen later. You came on defense and not think that that's GonNa Affect the kind of team you have so sometimes you have good luck. I mean we went through the season's around here when we won the national championship. We had nine games. Missed by starters the whole or fifteen games last year. We had about ninety. I so to think that those two things are not going to have some impact in a positive way or a negative way is not really realistic. And I don't try to explain that to anybody kind of is what it is because they are fans they wanna be good. They WanNa be the best and I much rather be at a place where everybody wants to be the best place where they're satisfied with being Meteo doing pandemic I'm saying right. Now you Biz. Why some shows dead you did. Well what are they six out of the road because I missed? The first wounds was the best day was doing this pandemic. I like the last dance. I mean the other stuff that I watched. I watched with Misteri so she really has a little stronger than I have. What we watch so sometimes I just have persevered but who's got the remote She Gotta. Bats groundbreaking right there if I do. It's why we watch this. So what's Misteri happen? You Watch you know we watch things on net flicks or weaken her Amazon or one of those where you can watch one episode. And you're like Ozark. Are you an Art van? We watch those are Are Little fires or something like that. I'm through that that was pretty decent interesting. We're all over the map but those are two of my favorites. I think Chuck Schumer. We have just spent a about a half hour with a living legend here on the steam room while Ernie he already knows I I tell. People used the greatest football coach ever. He's always treated me great coach. I WanNa thank you. You made my life of down at Auburn. A COUPLE OF TIMES. A man is is and happy on this team but like I say man you. You're the best college football coach of her. And thanks what you do. So the state of Alabama. When I appreciate your Senator Charles but you know one thing that I've always admired about you and Bo Jackson. Both I mean you've always put the people of the state in front of all Burner Alabama. I know you're great San for your school and all that kind of stuff. But you've done some both of you have done so much. I because you're two guys that have you know tremendous reputations and influence to help a lot of people in the state and I think it would be a good thing for all of our fans Alabama and Auburn. A life that we can be the best fans the most passionate fans that we ever want to be. I but when it comes down to people and helping people we ought to come together and do that regardless of which school. We love the bossed and you do a great job. With the Sodas. Both thank you goes. I'm earning dog. Same thing from Georgia. I didn't know you're from Georgia. But you know yeah well class seventy eight. Uga know born in Milwaukee grew up in Atlanta but It's just fun to watch competitive good football. It's good it's good to root for your team. It's great to be in that atmosphere and you know somebody's GonNa walk away disappointed in. It's Kinda cute with you. But those are great moments in the can't you can't match that atmosphere in that place on at night man. It's awesome great Mozambique coach Sabin. I can promise you that. Thanks for thanks for piling on their stor. Recreate that hi guys. Hey we have a great day. God bless you and stay safe you and your family are Thank me on. Thank you right back at you coach. Thank you chuck. Are that some fun right there man. You Know Ernie they get mad at me down in Auburn sometime. I think probably four years ago. Say they call. It asked me to speak to his team and I know how sensitive does already people are. I tried like hell to keep it on the down. Low earning added to anybody and then so I was just set up a couple of months of the vessel. I'm thinking I tell my boys been Kosabe Sabit. I'm coming down to speak to the team. I gotTA keep it on the down. Auburn people going crazy flawed. Eight hours before I got all starts going crazy. How could you do that? I could you speak to them I said do nick. Savings are greatest college football coach ever. I'm hoping you don't ask me to cut his grass. Think about it if he's the. Hey Chuck why are you down here? Cut My grass. I'm GONNA cut his grass and it was and is Alabama's Winston. He's a Greek out. I'm not and we'll talk about me talking to these young kids and asa is an honor and a privilege for him to ask me and to speak what I was like. I tried to keep it a secret. I Know Arbor. People says about the time they don't get any better in the coaching ranks than the nick. Sabin man that was that was good stuff back with more on the steam room in just a second. I'm referee Aubrey Edwards and Johnny Shivani and the boss man himself. Tony Kahn. Returned to eighty w unrestricted when we heard the Florida Georgia down shutting down to and we needed tape as much. Content includes before that shutout. Listen HE W unrestricted powered by state farm for free. Wherever you get your podcast. We are back with more of the steam room. The the second most popular podcast in the history of Media Ernie Johnson along with Charles Barkley. And now we follow up Nick. Sabin with a pair of guests are geniuses in their own right. The malamute brothers Adamant Craig who created The game of zones it is just. I mean must see muggy it is just genius. Man at seven seasons were and now the seven season is ending. Please tell me I mean is this it. I know it kind of feels definitive from watching the last episode but is there. Is there GONNA be more in having at you know anything is possible? So so we'll see we'll stay here. This could be our Jordan playing baseball year. We don't know yet number one the stuff you put out there just so smart and I can say I'm not saying that the kiss up to you. Some of these these is say. Have you on floor rolling and we're talking about when I was doing Adam REPCO by gastarbeiter. I says you know. These guys are so talented Collide Leonard Gone to Toronto And acid man Grabbed this made me angel- Jaka Parnell Jake puddle Jimmy Butler team. That's hard. He's too big. I mean I'm on regardless of laughing. You guys just ran tastic man thank you. I appreciate it. One of the perks of sucking at basketball is that you get to be good at other things so once once. We learned that we weren't going to basketball where like I forgot drawl voices. It proves how dialed in you. Guys are all the storylines that are going on in the NBA. And it is one of those things like Chuck says where you can't just watch it once because you're gonNA. It's almost like watching Seinfeld. Had to go back and say oh I missed that little line and there but I do you go back and look for the details and I just wonder considering what you have used. Where do you draw the line? And did you had to have it. You had some really good stuff that made you owl when you were putting this together. Say Yeah but we. We can't go there. Yeah can't go there because that's the next episode. We've had a lot of stuff that We joke about but doesn't quite make the cut. We also have stuff that doesn't make the cut because for one reason or another things change like we have this great scene if the Celtics made it to the finals that year but they lost it in Lebron against the warriors we had great. We've great scenes for situations that don't always happen but as far as the like Easter eggs and stuff like that you know. We know that people watch our show actively like it's not they're not usually not sitting on a couch and just watching the show throughout their computer. The reading comments and so we put a lot of stuff in there and we don't pander and we just make smart jokes and let people figure it out in the comments because it's like a different kind of experience and so we wanna layer it with with stuff like that so that it's it feels like an active experience like you got to pay attention. We rely on that sort of the hive. Mind of the Internet to catch everything in the community can discuss it and you can pause the screen and you can scan the background for whatever you WANNA see in it whereas if you're watching on TV you can't really pause a screen and look at those Seinfeld background you know. Technically you can now nowadays with backward. Seinfeld's coming out off two guys. Do the bosses. Yes how back the ride or did his voice but other than that. We did every single voice. When you're doing this have you ever. Jus- cracked up you. Answer that Greg will. Yeah I oftentimes I. Underline sitting recording everything. We'll Adams going. He'll just start improvising as different characters. And I'll ruin takes because I'm laughing so much oftentimes just because were saying things that we absolutely cannot put in episodes. It's coming out. How good the Void Swamp Dragon? You know this which one you is. Mark Cuban that is me Yes oh yes nerlens. I love all cylinders hair. How do you remember what everybody sounds like? You're doing so many voices who did me did you. Let's off chuck so it starts starts off caught chuck. I don't know and then I turned into a British thing where I'm like. Welcome back to inside the realm and it's poised to pleasant voice and then I can do Barkley in front of you Charles. Because you're man I'll tell you what the sun kings kings are. Dan Trouble that was. I can't believe I just did your voice in front of you. I'm sorry for that. I'm not worth it. The thing is we pitch shifted voices down so I'm actually shack and Shaggy Impressions. Not that good when pitch shift by voice down four semi tones. I sound a lot more like shack and I think most people do once you lower your voice that was. Don't get me wrong. The Bra was incredible. It was only one battle best seven putting my money on Joel. What's your take on? Paul Pierce is the greatest player of all time. What he thinks. He's the greatest player about Rod. So that's not breaking news so technically were not saying. He's the goat. Cheese saying is the goads because because that's what you see in the last three s he's he's bidding that and then putting putting the volume into the bookshelf over the whole concept for this season back in December and we were writing in January and we had no idea what was going to happen in twenty twenty and we wrote this concept to basically diverged from what was gonna go on in the NBA. We knew just going to be completely separate from the playoffs and we were care expert. Toronto wrap up the series and we thought was the biggest topic we could cover and asked the everyone's always talking about the goat. Everyone's talking about Lebron versus Jordan. And then we start making the episodes and suddenly the the pandemic starts exploding the NBA's actually suspended like in our show with whether this virus almost of like nineties stahl going around and then of course. Paul Pierce goes in yesterday. Broaden top five and were like. Oh my God. It's like a gift from the Gods. Keep your says this topical so weird. This became my rose topical season some houses bizarre list. I got Michael Oscar Korean will bill. Russell and Kobe put number seven. Who who goes around? Get Mad said you're the seventh rank greatest basketball. I take that Randy I got people calling me so I guess I'm number. Twenty two on a list are on. Espn thing that just came out. And they're like you got a comment. I'm like some disguise ahead of you and this guy the essence your man. I'm sixty years old. You won't be the argue about thank you. I'm not gonNA argue. Who's ahead of me and also I don't like the don't count post career stuff as well because let me tell you something. It's there's a lot of times there's people are good basketball. And then there's people with soccer basketball in are funny but very rarely someone who's really an elite basketball player Ak Charles Barkley and funny like there's not a lot of funny ask players like I think if you include humor I think Charles you gotta be right up there with with Paul Pierce. I'm told us on our show before the people who are watching the steam room. Give me an example. How long one episode takes an episode takes eight weeks to make because it starts with we think of our concept of what we WANNA do takes about two weeks to write in another week or two to record it and put all the music in all the sound design all the sound effects and everything and then know another week or two two story board at all and put that to the entity together and then designers have to get all the heads of an we get like photographs of everyone's head that we're GONNA draw and collect those nets build other is now so there was someone at report who was staring at both of your vases for days just building every single shade that senior. I their mouth and your ears and then animators who then populated around. That's another couple of weeks so the whole process is is it's basically this long assembly line and as we pass it down to each artists to ads there touch to it. We start working on the next one and putting that down the assembly line and then they each come out you know one week after another yet is and you know what's crazy too so craig you were. What astrophysics is what you're studying when you decided to study astrophysics you probably saw. That's a great stepping stone into a game zones a shake your head. Sometimes they how the heck did this. Yeah it's it's just the random walk of life. I guess I was. I was in Grad School and Adam had made was making cartoons about sports and after I graduated he was like. I can't do this myself because as I explained before. It's so much work to make these things you've to draw off every frame and so he's like Craig come out to Hollywood. Let's make it big is caught tuned brothers and so I was woods I went out there and we came up with the concept Owns made it for bleacher report. And that's doing last six years It's complete right. Turn from what else before but do keep the stars in the skies all those backgrounds and make sure those are accurate so Nigga professors. Exactly if you're late to the party on this and you're saying this game of thrones I if you haven't every season you just look you'll get on there you can find the entire collection all seven seasons and you will not be able to stop watching your watch. The first one you'll see it goes right into the second and if you're an NBA fan you will be unable to turn the thing off so check it out. Catch yourself up. I mean you're looking for something to binge-watch jump on game wants us. Thought Watch it. You'RE GONNA be laughing so hard you gotta be laughing so hard and you think the next episode. You're going to be like they can't be just as good as you're GONNA die laughing. It's not just because we got from so you just also make continued success and by the way one real quick aside before we let you go. Tom Was in the studio last last year working an NBA. We were working on our show on TNT. And I and. I didn't know Tom very well and I said I wonder. If you saw that episode Minnesota Timberwolves episode. You know maybe maybe I was like Robert Covington to much so I said to trucks are I should do. You think bibs or tips watches watches. That do you think he liked it? And I said I'm not going to ask Chuck Walker Ernest too. Scared to ask you code but if you watched that game as owns. And he's hilarious. So you were afraid to ask me. Honestly throw greyhound a Scott everybody's everybody's ear and everybody's I they all they all watch. It really is surreal amazing for us. Who are fans of the NBA? Was Born eighty-three outside Philly. And so like there was like Mickey Mouse. Michael Jackson Charles Barkley growing up or like bigger than life fishers and so to have you say those things about our cartoons really meaningful. So thank you also appreciate you guys being here Adam and Greg. 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Download the HOMEADVISOR APP today to get started back here on the same room and I think all loyal steamers would agree. This is one of the most popular segments weakened weak out Tim Kylie longtime legendary producer of inside the NBA joins us. You know twenty years. This is the first time. We're not on the road. We should normally be someplace and beyond. The road governs finals finals. This year the basketball cuts kind of adult won't chip earning. Tk TO BE IN LA FOR TWO WEEKS CONFERENCE FINALS. Like the one year we built a whole year to how. Lakers clever we got. We get paid in the same old tale blue and basketball guys like no. We want to do it. They like they did it a couple of years ago. We had to drive between Dallas and Oklahoma City. We're here tell some road stories. Let's start things off with our old pal. Steve Fiorello are longtime director of inside the NBA. One of my great friends want Chuck Great Friends. One Ernie grade friends and unforced a great friend of the Cleveland. Browns STEVE. Take it away so I've been asked to talk about conference final experience. One of the things that comes to mind was in Miami. It was pre- shack and we had this great outside location right in front of the arena. Get ready to our show in. Ej's on the set who's usually on the much earlier than everybody else in Charles and are headed out towards the set. Apparently our boy chuck maybe flew a few gestures towards the crowd for whatever reason. I'm not sure why I don't think the fans in in Miami are finally Chuck stor. I could be wrong but at least at least that day. Something went down in the commercial breaks. The conversations between shock in the crowd just seemed to escalate and it wasn't there wasn't pleasantries exchanged. Let's put it like that. It just felt like something really bad was about to happen and I turned the. Tk like you know. Haiti K this is this going very well. Remember we went through the show. Literally a fifteen minute show which was supposed to be an hour and six of those fifteen minutes for commercial breaks. I've never been a part of a show like that before And having been a part of one since go browns tells the story over I remember that too. Yeah Chuck Flip Golf. The fans down there by and my goodness of Nice until two things they get drunk and you pick a guest their team. I so Ernie you know we don't care who GonNa win. We want good Games man. We want good stories. We always want a seven game series. We don't care who's GonNa win. Bears will to pick their team. That's it and if you don't take team and once they give liquor up Ernie that that brings us to another one. Did you may recall two thousand fourteen. We were at the NC double a final four and we're saying if the Yukon Hotel in duct kept picking against Yukon. We had to go back into the Hotel Bar. Every night and get brutalized by uconn fans that they won the title and we came back. And I thought there's no way we're getting through this only be able to get my hotel room was. I'm walking with job. I don't know if you're with us. He gets up on the bar and starts yelling. Fans teach me the Yukon fights on fight song next singing. Chuck you had him beaten out of your hand. It was really funny. Bear underdog in every game. Nobody expected them to win. You still sing the Yukon fights on though the TK. What if I told you about singing you you know on the greatest living karaoke singer? You can only do Karaoke when you've been drinking. I can't do that by saga less. I'm drinking and eight millimeter. Words last one member all those years. We were in San Antonio already you know with the with the Spurs and the Lakers and all of this is when Shaq and Kobe at it and the Lakers have just won a game in San Antonio and Chuck was leanness from the hotel he was the Pied Piper. There were about ten of us to to the river walk and at the Big Limo. Escalade GOES BY US real slow and all sudden. I hear as it passed us. Charles Barkley Charles Berkeley home. Gods is over with it was shack. You remember he jumps on your back. It was like watching dinosaurs. Wrestle for piece of me. Senator knows one of my life brought on my seventeenth favorite city in the world. I like San Antonio men. I'm always like going there. I Love I love. Guacamole prepared at your table. Side Man ever go to San Antonio Spurs game if if disperse on plan as absolute nothing going on in San Antonio it got no other pro sports is really excited when the spurs the plan. But there's no other reason emperor as not a river is very creech. I you're not GonNa get me to play the role of Shaquille O'Neal say jokes about those. What else about senator not. We'RE NOT GONNA go down that road not not on this not on this episode of the steamer of Aj got defended stories from the road. The Block party. We had a milwaukee last year. That was a lot that was a year ago man blowing smoke right now. That was wanted coolest things I've ever done since I've been at Turner first of all to have the same people live in that in that house and you ended seeing some of the people who you grew up with best one of the most fun things I ever did in my turn years. That was so much fun. Man You kind of like we're front and center with that thing instead of just going to the house. Let's have a party out there. Let's the neighbors come over and it was mad. It was awesome. That's a that's one of those things that happens off off the court that you'll never forget I'll never forget. I was in the house. I when I turned the corner. You walked in your face. I'll never forget that facial expression laws I live. You know because you saw your house exactly the same. Oh my God. That was great. It was it was like Rod serling twilight zone Ish. It was awesome. There was also Lara boys until next week we safety and we're back in the steam room Where we like to close out every episode of this podcast with an old school reference. The the answering machine that belongs to Charles Barkley so we when people call and leave us messages like this one you re Barclay leave a methods America talking and I'm a longtime listener of the number. One has tested a university of Steam Room. And I got a question. GonNa win the match this weekend between that adorable. Peyton and Tiger and lefty and the Patriots and also check. I hope you get a Birdie. How Great Guy? Well let me say this early. We work with some chiefs case over at Turner. Why would you say that? It's not a very nice thing to say. Well okay so Ernie they're gonNA donate two hundred thousand dollars to my chaired. I'M GONNA do food banks I wanted Arizona one in Alabama so they're got donate two hundred thousand dollars if I make a bogey so stood they donate more about makeup par or Birdie I hate to tell anybody how to spend their money. But I'd say a bogey or a Birdie I mean I'd say here's what you here's what they're gonNa do for a bogey. Bogey or better but if you do Birdie the hole then maybe they should double it beg you but the chance of you and again. This is in addition to the match right. This is this is something else that's going to be going on. Yeah okay. We'll see how that plays out but yeah there's a donation to charity riding on you making at least a bogey on the par four eighteenth hole medalist. So if I made par Birdie what's number one. They're not likely but TNT severi some excitement to it. It's GonNa be exciting enough to see how far you get off the on eighteen anyway. Who's going to win the match? Well I one I cannot wait. You got the greatest Golfer who ever lived by paying tiger woods. Got The greatest football player. Tom Brady you got feel Mickelson. Who's one of the greatest players ever? And you got paid one in four or five best quarterbacks ever I'M GONNA Go Earth. We cannot wait to see it. I cannot wait when I'm GONNA go with Peyton and tiger. Tom Brady's been busy. He's been busy working with his Tampa Bay teammates. He's been busy breaking into people's houses down in the Tampa area. So increase the earning. I mean think about football. It's been getting kicked out of the Parks. Anything breaking and entering. So He's been really busy. Pay Nathan doing anything. That's my rationale well. Last time they had the match Phil was a big underdog to tiger and knee wound up winning that thing out of shadow creek so We'll see I think it's going to be really entertaining. I think when you got four guys might And they all have their own unique brands of humor. 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The Iceman Cometh

"Problems it's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things. Ben Things make things things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays delays to food safety smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more. Yep It's time again yes it is. You've entered the steam room. Please keep the towel on. That's the fluid situation on the towel. I mean when there are other people in the steam room I tend to keep the town. Yes yes yes and we're in here. Someone just came in the steam room and I'm saying keep the towel please So welcome to which what by my calculations is the fastest growing podcast in the history. Three of PODCASTS. At at again at last count chuck six hundred trillion subscriptions. My goodness esteem Rene said we would never make it and that's just it just jumped some rough. Estimating that I've been doing but it it probably is subject to change In this episode will review the Super Bowl. Yes what a game. We'll have tim. Kylie are longtime producer. Who's what about the Lincoln of the no game the Oscars coming up? Oh Yeah we will gaze into the Crystal Ball Charles has never missed. He tells me never missed a best picture prediction addiction. That's what you say. But I I've been there when you've missed Misfired on those before all of that to come along with Chuck's answering during machine but we begin as we always do this way. First of all you get cheerios. I've had two regular cheerio for Nevada route. A motorcycle Asaka who make millions of dollars in the first of all zero plus zero zero. It's first of all yes so first of all. What's on the Chuck Stirs Mind? Well this is personal for me. This is about Some idiot lady in our I don't even know the Lady's his name I just know she's an idiot and I'm gonNA give you a couple of reasons. Why so? I'm watching all the stuff in our and it had this lady eighty who says she walks up to the pulses. Can I have my vote back at this at the Iowa Caucus and the latest. Excuse use me she says. Can I have my vote back. I want to change it and later says why she says I just found out compete. Buddha Jake was gay and laces excuse me again. He's yeah he's gay. He's got a husband and she says A. Why can't vote for a gay Gotcha and it hurt me for all my gay friends? There's somebody could be that narrow minded that she says I. I can't vote for Giga. Don't worry about his policies intimate and that bothered me and well. Apparently her his policies Zeze were enough to garner her suppor- no no you'll she found out but see backing up. What your CEO? But my thing is what's worse her discriminating against gay people or being so stupid. She didn't know that. So it was multi-layered so that's what bothered me like lady. You should know whether he's gay or not in his policies before you hand in the boat. You like one thing I can say. I don't judge other people I got plenty of gay friends. Blessed him blessed him but to no two are at a place you vote. It ain't try to go back just because the guys that you're stupid but I think was more stupid it did. You should do your homework. John Every candidate and and I was GONNA say. I don't know what I'm more mad about her. Discriminating against for being gay or her being so stupid it does. She didn't do her homework. ONA candidate it was. It was a piece of piece of Video that went viral. You can you can certainly find it if you choose to find it. We're not going to use a name or any of what is now. You know you've got this impeachment thing going on We got the greatest country in the world. I've been around a where America's greenest place in the world but this embarrassment of this impeachment stuff stuff and away our country's ran now when you see embarrassment of the impeachment stuff. What do you mean I mean people just vote with party lines? uh-huh that to me was embarrassing. This and you know chuck stir it was Like watching the results in Iowa and how mangled that was where you have you. Have this big build up to the Iowa caucuses. Who's going to have the head of steam heading into New Hampshire? Well stick around. We're going to know one another day or so so that was all messed up and watching the state of the Union would you talk about being strictly strictly divided down party lines and vice of NECE and all right. I'm not shaking her hand. I'm ripping up his speech. We're GONNA chant four more ears. It's too embarrassing. I couldn't watch him to the notice that the president of the United States would not shake hands with the speaker of the House and then her tear knows papers up. Like this is a joke. Just get this do is present the United States and she's the speaker of the House and she tears. These papers up there was embarrassing. You know what it was like if I'm the rest of the world and I'm watching this this is this is like we like we watch. Sometimes we'll see Government bodies around the world where. Hey suddenly a fistfight out or this happens or somebody through and you know what if I'm watching this from a distance I'm saying what does one of those is it going on. Yeah so I I was just embarrassed by the whole thing. I'm like dude you the president. You got to shake her hand. I didn't cheat trump's it. Oh Nice Nice play on words Yes yes I asked him. I didn't stop him before he does. But I'm just so disgusted with with politics right now and like. I say I'm not going to sit here and act like whoever. The president of the United States is is going to change my life dramatically but man we got. We got to. What happened to civility? Excellent question What happened to I wish I had the answer? But it's going to be interested in next year and a half seems a lot of times. That ship has sailed You know what I want to talk about when we come back much lighter stuff. Yes Sir let's talk about the Oscars. Yes let's talk about the best movies and all that stuff. We'll do that when we come back with more on this team becky around the steam room. Where one of my? This is my favorite part of the show. Today I'm not Golah. What is the Oscar stuff? Okay good do more. We're only this is only the second segment you don't know the next two segments could be absolutely you know at take movies though I know you. Do I love my movie. So is this list and I'm looking at say one. Two three four five six seven eight one of their nine or or are there more than nine. There are nine best picture nominees now and I know you like to go to the movies. I do so the Irishman yes. Once upon a time in Hollywood I did no yes yes or no will suffice. I five nine thousand nine hundred seventeen. Yes joker yes parasite no Joe Rabbit. Yes Ford versus Ferrari. Yes marriage story no little women no all right so having not seen all all of them of the ones that you've seen chuck stor because you've seen six. I guess you know five six of these. What get your vote for best picture? Nineteen seventeen I've heard that it was outstanding is outstanding. But the two that I really WanNa see told me about nine hundred seventeen world so typical. Oh wait a minute. I have seen nine hundred seventeen. I Apologize See when I'm dealing with. No no our policy. I see these chuckles goals around the crew. No no it's not gonNA Latte T I thought I have not okay. So you're in nineteen seven. I was no. They've seen the Irishman. I have absolutely Irishman is okay. There's the same group Casino. Goodfellas the departed. Have already that that same thing. I take all those movies are the same first of all good fellows is probably one of my top five movies. You don't like I just love talking to you. Maggie cracks me up but I know I do. I love Goodfellas. So that was one of those that you're flipping around and it's like Oh goodfellas. Oh I'll watch on AH CASINO. Yeah those all the same movie. No older they're just. Oh but I will tell you this. The two movies I've got to see and I've been told this three actually nine hundred seventeen is one thousand nine hundred seventeen Gioja Rabbit. We know remember tonight. We had Adam Sal in here you sir. He said it's not nominated for best picture. Uncut gyms but Adam Sandler is sensational in that Heaven Garden Garden. But guess what he said the best movie I don't want to paraphrase. We sit. He said parasite yeah. I haven't seen see net parasite WanNa best move as he recommended that. Okay so back to the question of those that you have seen and again you have to take nine hundred seventeen see something. It was really weird about movies. Are you going to answer this question. I am what's the best movie you've seen. I just WANNA hold on one second because I have issue with does joker. I didn't like it okay. Okay and it'll have but I'm saying is won every award and I'm thinking I need to go see it again. Tapie Miss something that you were supposed to see. Yes and I know Joaquin. Phoenix has won all the awards. And he's probably going to win the Academy Award but when I'm sitting Sydney watching this movie I'm like I'm not feeling this at all so as we are so let's get back to your list. Well can I see. The listing the Irishman once upon a time in Hollywood nineteen seventeen joker parasite Joe Rabbit Ford versus Ferrari marriage story. We're in little women and you have not seen those two. They're not GonNa win but the best one I've seen on that list. It's for versus Ferrari. I actually thought Matt Damon and Christian Christian Bale Awesome Awesome. I loved his little son Christian. Bale's little son his wife. It was cool but Christian. Bale going back to the fighter. He was great in one. Came out about Dick. Dick Cheney Obviously it was amazing. I just in Christian Bill and Matt Damon is fabulous. You know and I remember telling you. I said you need to see this movie. It's really good because when it when I first saw the the Advertisements for it was like I don't know I don't because I'm not big gearhead you know I don't know cars that great but once you start watching such a wonderful story and characters actors and everything and my man. Josh was such a prick in the movie. I forget Josh Josh. His last name. Oh Yeah I remember. We had him and for glory. You exactly right we yeah. We had a screening for glory and he was his name Josh because he played the coach in yes but yet he was here. Just deep test in that in that movie and I and I was like yeah man. If do but Christian Bale played his part amazing and Matt was fantastic so so cap our producer. We you know Charles and I were kind kind of stumbling all around this Josh Shoe Izzy and expecting to hear cap. Say here's the last name and there. It is Josh Josh Lucas Josh Lucas. Thank you so he. He's done some good stuff but man that's one thing. I love about movies when you hate a character character. I love a character. Well that's how you know that's the sign of a good film is because the the they developed a characters to the point there that makes them ruble. Or because if you don't do that if you just have a bunch of folks but but the way they develop these guys you either pulling forum or you're saying boy hope this this guy gets it at the end of this movie. That's that's what makes to see mayors marriage story because I'm a big fan of Adam driver with a big fan of marriage marriage story. I said I'm a big fan of with me man. I'm a big fan of atoms. Rava going back to Black Klansman shot my boy spike Lee. He's really good. Yeah but he's really good. I I saw him. He hosts live about Two three weeks ago. I can't wait to see what comes out of this once. Seventeen is GONNA win again. You haven't seen I haven't overseen Yes for some. I like watching one Areso store going to see different movies because like what you see when they win awards deaths when you're like okay. A lot of people voted. They liked this movie. And that's a good way to who go start going and seeing movies I just I just like the way you started describing in one thousand nine hundred seventeen you know. It's kind of your typical hold it. I haven't seen that. No because you know what I went. What happened? I went to see I was going to see nineteen seventy and then I walked. aww Marquee and I wince all the gentleman would matthew mcconaughey Oh okay I got a man crush on Saudi hunting right now. That hyper says name You're the one with the crush. Yeah I do I. I started watching him He played a role guide. And one of these recent recent movie. King Arthur. So I don't see it. I didn't see him in. Anarchy whatever it was but I got a man Chris Charlie on right now but who grant was great Oh some a man named he was great too. It's no question and no surprise is when you listen to this segment of the steam room that people who are searching for entertainment news. No there's only one source and that is the steam room. Yes that's we're we can tell you about moves you haven't seen and guess at the names of those who might appear on the screen and remember everybody's name that's what puts us right up here way on the top rung on the credibility ladder. I think that guy's really good. The guy got a crush on. I don't know what his name Charlie Hanin is his name. Okay okay anyway. Good luck to everybody. WHO's nominated members? It's an honor to be nominated. Yeah unless you lose excellent point back with more on the steam Brunetta this problems. It's human nature church to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things. Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety. SMART LOVES PROBLEMS IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more. Br Can you imagine a world filled with folks wearing the steam room bathrobe as as nicely as Tim. Kylie we are longtime producer. Are you really wearing a Dan Marino. He will let me tell you something. Chuck the way patent homes was throwing the ball around. He reminded me of my teammate. And my friend Dan Marino. Let me ask you a question if I had a dollar every time you drop Dan Marino's name I'd Extra ten fifteen. Because you WanNa talk we ever think Danny you on the phone. Ah Serious talk believable tonight Bam Marina. What's up breath? Uh Aw Charles how you doing man. I'm doing great. He wanted me to surprise show. You definitely surprise me. Hey because he dropped your name. I've been working working with a nineteen years and he bragged so much about you all the time and you know what he should he was at a dinner and he looked at all of us and said how the hell did I win a game with any of these. That's the truth man. I've been given by your buddy Tim Kylie. You know a few a few bullet points on your career. But before I get to any of those can you describe honestly Dan. Tim's football skills. Well he's one of those guys like like yes you would call a fringe player. Thanks ice yeah you got to them anytime. They are always referred to him as a wedge buster sent him down on kickoff break up the wage. And that's probably why he's bald now. Uh You had a final week down that last week I bet you know what it was. Yeah it was. I thought Miami put on a good show man. It was a lot of fun has good parties. has you know corporate stuff like that but the game was great to game was outstanding outstanding. Tell me about What Patrick Mahomes does Dan that? Get your attention. just You know his ability to throw the football the way he does like from all angles and he has a real. Oh good sense in the pocket you know good feel and he could flat out sling it you know. And that's that's you gotta be able to do that you know in the NFL and he has he has all the throws. Let's put it that way. I'm s you a football. Of course I'm GonNa Start with a basketball question. Track could try to compare the two so in NBA. Now we don't have big eyes anymore. We just have a bunch of little guys running around e even bigeye shoot threes. I don't think is great for the game. Now my question to you is how are you happy with the way. Football has become all offense now. yeah I mean I see that it's It's something that's exciting for the fans you know. I mean the way the rules are announced. You know you look at a quarterback you can't hit them in the head or again in a below the knee and it's made for throwing the football I mean it's it's the way it is. That's what people I wanNA see. And that's why they're putting up these huge numbers you know mahomes last year. He threw fifty touchdowns. I mean that's for first year player. I mean that's amazing. So Yeah it's it's fun to watch because no doubt about this thing where you can't touch the quarterback anymore like right. I don't I don't like it personally because is like they're saying one guy. I don't want anybody to get hurt but to me. What Tair saying is because it occurs to play football? I admire them but to say that one position we have to protect that one position existed above all other position. I get a little frustrated with that. Well you know what I think. It is a certain extent. I can see where you get frustrated but also also the other you know other players receivers can't get you know you can't have the head shots anymore down the field so it's a little easier going across the middle sometimes because you know most most of the time you're not going to get your hands off so all that stuff plays into it and it's not just I mean it is it's more. There's more emphasis on the quarterback. You're right But at the same time I think there's it's it's the same with other players to you know so it's not quite. I agree with what you're saying to a certain extent but it's also the it's a factor for receivers and running backs and you know anybody. That's touching the ball Dan in all objective honesty Better Performance Charles in space jam. Or you an ace Ventura pet detective. There's no doubt that me playing in as mature. That was way better like I feel like I made Jim Carey Star Star wasn't his toughest college football team. He ever faced Georgia right speaking. I got got a little present for any drug. You'll enjoy this. You got it. The nineteen eighty two sugar bowl pitted the ten. And one can Thurs against the highly ranked Georgia bulldogs the with just seconds remaining in the game trail by three it was fourth down. What be the last play for? Yeah I remember watching that stuff. That was good stuff. That was a good Georgia team. Though Ari sorry buddy they should have blitz me on fourth down. Yeah if you bliss on for down you better get to him. They didn't know all this time. You know you gotta get over it man you just gotTa accept it now you were. You had a little time to throw. That ball not surprised that it was that it was a bucket. Shut down there man alive the best job. When you're a Dan Kurtzer Heck Outta work number one? I've been around you minute ties. Man I tell people you're a good man. Thanks for taking the time for the steam room. Oh no problem at any time there. I don't know what I know when your resume man. I know first ballot L. at hall of Famer Etcetera Etcetera but Steam Room guest. That's going to go right up there near the top. My friend as Hey dan thanks man no great great job man thank you know. Call me for awhile coming down to your house either. So don't worry about it. We'll see you next week on the steam rupe group guys appreciate it thank you. Thanks Pamela. The Super Bowl cooks man. That was that was. That was a good one that that was a heck of a game. I mean both teams you know like I said I'm not gonNA blame the Ford announced. I knew everybody's ragging on cow Shanahan right now but like man. Patrick mahomes especial but I was really more happy for Andy Reid. He's because he's Charles Barkley Shit Shit List for guys who had great careers would never want a big game. I always root but those guys and they're like why China read has the most wins. Never win the Super Bowl. I'm like why had to finish it like that. So I love when guys who haven't won a championship and Sports Wean it. Because I know it's always a crappy list of beyond so I was really happy because he confers well being in Philly for the last thirty some years Bruce and it was there for like fifteen sixteen years and evening in Kennison. I've never heard a bad word about and so I was happy. Happy for him. Can I give a shout out before we throws out here. I just wanted to mention that my friend Dan Marino built hospital for autism in Nineteen Nineteen ninety-five. Wow in Miami. It's called the Dan Marino Center at Miami Children's Hospital because one as boys is autistic. He adopted two children from China. Much like Ernie. That's awesome great job getting him by the way it is wonderful talking to you know how big a sports fan I am right. Yeah Eh. So I'm planning Dan Marino's golf tournament and when you meet somebody who's great you. Hope they are nice is guy because we know some guys who are just total jackasses when you meet him but from the first time I met Dan Marino he's just a good guy. It wonderful having Dan with us and when we come back one of everybody's most I don't know I'll say favorite are most entertaining parts of the show the the answering machine chuck's answering machine is it ever full. Ernie sure Oh no question we we had a bit has. It's a specially made answering machine has two big. Reel to reel thing. We'll be back back here in the steam room and if you were regular listener or a steamer as we like to call you. That's what God calls us. Yeah I liked it. I liked it. Anybody who listens to the steam room is a steam. A loyal A loyal steam right. So if you're a loyal steamer you know what it's time for as we wrap up another episode of the Steam Room. We're going old school you'll re- we saw Barclay leave a message America talking personal Larry's when you call wing slappers anyway. You got me thinking. Describe your perfect way Buffalo Barbecue Lemon pepper. You like an extra hot or mild dipping rancher blue cheese to seem as one or now thanks chuck well and I and I also thought it was hilarious when you because I was asking you. Do you like the drum mets or the flat when the flappers you first of all. I don't have a debt my wings I might. I think I've seen you. You saw me dip it in the red sauce the raspberry every solves. Yes yes but I don't have a diplomat rant or anything like that but Lemon pepper and jerk burke sauce are probably my two favorite wings. I mean I do. Lemon pepper's always good but you get a great jerk. Place the jerk sauce. They're pretty awesome and I have. I have no problem with the buffalo sauce. I'M NOT GONNA lie but if I had my preference if I can get get lemon pepper jerk. I'm good so you don't need a real hot a real hot sauce. They kind of know her. And you're like Oh man. Give me something to drink and I don't mind spicy. I don't WanNa go overboard. Some people want him really really hot. I'm like that's just stupid. I won't enjoy my food. I don't WanNa have to grab grab a glass of water every bite we have. I don't know if you have a favorite place to get your to get your wings but I know which is hard but we you know there have been a few nights so yeah we have up who locally local mile and a half from where we're taping the steam team room right down the pub and those are some lemon pepper and that's where they had that raspberry sauce. Yeah who who would have thought I know who came up with that. I don't know but they do a fantastic job with dilemma pepe. The TERIYAKI BARBEQUE DOT COM. Well the the the buffalo but man wings are you're a they not easy because a lot of places they crispy on the crease crispy on the outside and have don inside with just pisses me off to know in. And we shouldn't mention the place where we really love those. We really love those wings. Because I don't I don't know if it's allowed that we mentioned eleventh street pub but Y- just said pub. Yeah he's on Leominster. Yeah it's awesome. That's probably why they call it. The Levy Street. Yeah you're right. Hey I think we have another call. Ernie what's up. Chuck Charles wanted to ask you back something bump days who's got the bigger ass you Mahorn. One of my favorite people in a world is Rick Mahorn. You know there are some teammates that you play with. Derek Smith Johnny Dhaka's Hersey Hawkins Wins Mark West. Dan Marley Kevin Johnson. There's some teammates that you really really love being within around my Jamaica. I don't WanNa leave big Mike out but mahone and me got along really really well. He was great for me. Are you kind of wandering a wave. No but I'm offended by that question. You Seen Rick Fat ass but I just wanted to other teams but I'm a little offended by your question. If you've seen Rick Mahorn you know. His ASS is a lot bigger than mine. Love Your Horn. Shut the next call. Hey guys this is Kayla from Chicago excited for my hometown all star weekend. My Hi question is what is All star weekend. Like Charles Barkley. Well it's different as a player and an announcer number one's ACOG. Oh second favorite city in the World Rollout Toronto just fun I think sometimes people get carried away saying the game is not competitive like you. You have an obligation to your team and not go out and get hurt anything like this you just go out to have fun. To highlight of the weekend is proud of the slam dunk. Three point shooting contest. 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030: Staying Power with Carol Kent | The Living Room

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

48:41 min | 10 months ago

030: Staying Power with Carol Kent | The Living Room

"Tools for living room to grow a space of grace to become everything got wants to be. You're listening to the Living Room. Podcast with Joanna. Weaver episode thirty. Wow what a crazy time. Spring Twenty twenty is turning out to be if you're listening to this episode during the months of April or May you know that the entire world has been turned upside down this past month by the Kovic nineteen virus. It can be a scary time but you guys it can also be a time filled with opportunity. When a deadly pandemic hit Rome in the third century nearly everyone scattered to save their lives but it was the early Christians who stayed back to Minister to the sick and dying their selfless act. In time of danger did more to spread the gospel than any any sermon. That could have been preached. And if God's grace was sufficient for them it's going to be sufficient for us in Psalm. Thirty four nineteen. The Living Bible tells us the Goodman does not escape all troubles he has them too but the Lord helps in in each and everyone in today's episode Carol can't is going to talk about a time when an unimaginable tragedy slammed into her family's life but you know what God better there and he not only gave her the gray she needed. He used that tragedy to perform his purposes. I hope you enjoy this interview. I certainly did well. It is always such a joy to talk to carol. Can't she? Is Literally one of my favorite people in the universe. She is an author and a speaker. She's actually the founder of speak up ministries. Which is just an amazing ministry to equip the next generation of speakers and writers. She's also on the founder of speak up for hope a nonprofit organization that benefits a prison inmates in their families. Which you're gonNA understand that a little bit more as we talk. She has written more than twenty bucks and she and her husband. I've had the delight of hearing Carol's ministry firsthand in sitting down and getting to know you guys better and you guys are the real deal. My friend Joanna. It is so good to hear your voice today and thank you for that. I love being with you. I love collaborating with you in ministry and I just feel like our hearts beat together when it comes to doing kingdom work and wanting to give our best for God's glory so that ministry can be multiplied globally and I know that your heart too. Yeah yeah well I'll tell you it was so wonderful to pick up your new book. This is called steam power building a stronger marriage when life sense. Its worst and you co-authored with another couple that I really love Cindy and David Lambert. Can you just tell us a little bit about how the book came to be? I would love to Dave in Cindy have been in the publishing industry for a number of years. Cindy has been my acquisition editor for a couple of projects and they are always on the staff team when we do the speak up conference every summer. Equipping the next generation of Christian speakers and authors. So we get together. We talk we laugh. We go out for meals together and it has become a strong friendship. Well we had a situation where our only child was arrested of a horrible crime and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole and so we had gone through the throes of having a really happy marriage and then in the middle of having our son all grown up we had this shocking thing as a crisis in our lives and David Cindy had a little different situation where they had a drug addicted grown child who had a child of his own and they wound up raising a granddaughter as if they were the parents and so we said you know what for both of us you know. These are things that we never expected and I wonder what kind of resources there are for couples who are in the middle of their marriages and all of a sudden something comes from without and that might be that. You're dealing with a child who has a severely disabled or there might be a financial upheaval. That totally changes your ability to do what you once were able to do as a family and as a couple Or you might as in our case Have an incarcerated loved one or you have drug addicted child or maybe your spouse has an accident and so you wind up being different kinds of caretaker even though you love that person but there are so many things that threaten our marriages and we didn't ask for them. They seem to come out of the blue and all of a sudden we have to make decisions that will impact the rest of our lives and is Christian couples. We want to do that to the glory of God but we don't know how so. We sat down and talked one night and we went way into the late night hours. And we said as a couple David Cindy and Jean Carole Out We need to write a book about this and little. Did we know Joanna that the book staying power would be born out of that and it has been a wonderful joy to write with like minded couple. Who truly believe that. The to today's problems are in the word of God. Yeah and oh how we need that because I think sometimes as Christians. We really think that life should be easy and that bad things shouldn't happen and so not only are. Our marriage is shaken but our faith can be shaken as well and I just love. How practical this book is as you guys just share the different facets of what that looks like you know before we went on you and I were talking about that like I really really think that we've so Americanized Christianity that we've turned it into something that We believe should never involve heartache or suffering and yet it does. Can you talk about that? You know I think many times. We are geared to thinking. Well if I really pray heard about this or if I studied the Bible more diligently everything is going to be much much more easy to understand and in my case Joanna. I remember when our son was first arrested. I was praying for a miracle of mercy now. How many people have heard our story so that they know that Jason is and Naval Academy graduate. He met and married a previously married woman who had two children there were multiple allegations of abuse involving the biological father of the girls and it appeared he was going to get unsupervised visitation and our son began to unravel mentally emotionally and spiritually and we got a middle of the night phone. Call telling us. Our son had been arrested for the murder of his wife's first husband so we went through two and a half years and seven postponements of Jason's trial. He was eventually convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole and I mean our lives turned upside down and so far now almost two decades I have prayed for mercy and you know my idea of God. Answering prayer would be that he would have a release date and that he would be able to have some form of his family life back and an ability to be projected outside of prison walls. But do you know Joanna? God has not answered that prayer in the way I wanted answered and though we were talking earlier about our expectations of what God will do and when we are praying for something to happen instead got his answered in a way that has allowed Jason to be a missionary behind the razor wire the maximum security prison and we are watching him as he leads. Bible Studies and has shares the Gospel with other inmates and he's been president of toastmasters on the inside teaching inmates. Outta communicate and I have to chuckle. Because I teach the speak up conference so I figure he's a chip off the old black and we are watching God open ministries for us as we developed speak up for hope which is a ministry to inmates and their families that we never would have even thought of had this not happened and so in many ways we forget that first of all were living in a fallen world where bad things do happen to good people even good Christian people and we probably have some listeners right now who are saying. That's true in my case it's true in my marriage and that we are not going to be completely free of stress and pain and suffering until we get to heaven and so it shouldn't be a surprise to us that we're dealing with some of these things but what we will find out in the process. Is that if we have staying power if we stay connected to God's word if as married couples we stay connected to each other and really listen to each other and communicate at a level. But here's the heart of the other one that we can make Christ honoring choices that will mean our time is not wasted and that we can use whatever has happened as a platform upon which we can give God glory and further his kingdom work. Amen Amen. I really do think we forget that. This isn't having Helen Cheeses told his like right in front he goes. Listen in this world. You're going to have trouble and yet we keep thinking that it should all be bliss in and Sunshine and Unicorns in and yet what I love about. The Lord is while he doesn't always interrupt and he doesn't always intervene. He always always redeems bats. Just what you are talking about like. I bet you couldn't have even imagined how the Lord was going to unfold this story and redeem this story when you got that initial news. It stuns me every day when I realized what God is doing in the middle of this journey and unknowns to me one out of every one hundred adults in the United States is in jail or in prison wow or per capita than any country in the world and so I never dreamed there was this huge mission field out there and We have talked to so many couples who in the process of having that interruption. Come into their lives. Saved said got his first a new opportunity out of this a new ministry out of this and as you know I'm married to a pretty fun guide. Gene has a good sense of humor and I had been noticing at home that his pilot black T. shirts was getting shorter and shorter. I said honey. What's happening to your shirts. And he said you'll find out soon enough while we were at the prison the next weekend standing in the long lines sometimes up to two hours to get through the security process and I saw a woman turned away and she was sobbing and the rules. Change for what? You can wear inside regularly. And she had on a sleeveless floss in that was against the rules and I suddenly realized Jane had left my the place. Decide me in the line and I saw him emerge from the parking lot where our car was carrying. A black T. shirt. And he walked up to. The woman handed it to her. And said here. Ma'am put this on and go to the front of the line. Have a wonderful visit with your family member. And he came back to where I was standing and I said so. That's what's been happening to your t shirts. He looked down. He said it's ministry and Joanna a month later. I was in Wisconsin speaking and shared the story of the disappearing t shirts and a month later. There was a box on my front porch. It was filled with Black T. shirts note inside said Carol. I heard you speak in Wisconsin and I work for a company that makes T. shirts and I can buy them very inexpensively. Please use this fax of t-shirts toward your husband's t shirt ministry through his trunk distribution program. We hope it helps some families along the way at I had to chuckle. Because so many times we never dream that the unanticipated journey were Unin. Our marriage could actually lead to launching something positive and good and yes fall and that people in the process will be blessed and in one of the chapters in staying power is about serving while suffering and sometimes when we are in the middle of our suffering place with whatever is happening in our marriage maybe it is dealing with the repeated addiction of a loved one. And you've gotten so far and then they go back to wrong choices again and we forget that out of that sometimes springboards the most amazing ministry opportunities and I tell couples. Look around and see one person who needs help worse than you do do a tangible act of loving kindness in. Jesus name for that person and watch what it does to your own heart and you know Joanna when you give to others the joy that comes back to you is just overflowing with encouragement and so suddenly in the process of your own pain. You see God's incredible splashes of joy along the journey and that's what we're experiencing. I love that so much you know. I think that we get. It's so backward and we think that life should be trouble free when God like you said. This is a fallen world. So we're going to have trouble but God harnesses the very things Satan means for our destruction uses it for good and I love. I love that I mean and yet it's so easy and I'd love to have you talk about that. It's so easy to get so inward focused and so overwhelmed by our pain that we we don't know how to get to that place where we can even see someone else's need what would you say. Well it's so true and if you are struggling as a couple with one of those very difficult things that has happened gene and I have discovered that it's really important to make what we call predispositions. And those. We call the non-negotiables Joanna it would be the whole idea of the fact that you know you love each other and so you are going to respect the advice and the wisdom of your spouse and you're going to listen to it and if you decide that ahead of time it keeps you from yelling at each other which helps a whole lot. Yes and and then this one has been very important to us to make that that predisposition of knowing ahead of time even when we're under pressure even when we're hurting we are going to serve our spouse sacrificial and you know when when Jason was arrested. Jean brought me coffee in bed every single morning and he still does now twenty years later and he would bring me coffee and he would put his hand on my arm or he would rub my feet. And it was his non verbal way of saying honey. I know you're hurting. I know you ache all over and so do I but I love you so much and that simple sweet gesture of serving me just increased my love for my spouse tremendously in the middle of feeling the pain of what was going on and then we try to practice what we call automatic forgiveness in what it boils down to is even if gene irritates me in and he does occasionally. Can you believe that I can't I know in my heart? I love this man and I know he loves me in so I know his intentions toward me are good and I am going to forgive him even though he has irritated me right now. I'm going to practice automatic forgiveness because I know his intentions toward me are good and he loves me deeply and that gets us through a whole out of trouble to think. In that way nobody Fiji and says be gentle with one another sensitive forgive one another quickly and thoroughly as guiding Christ. Forgave you in this. One is a tough one. I will control my tongue. I'm sure Joanna. You are so close to the Lord that you've never had anything really negative fall out of your mouth. Ver- advert can be intentional about using uplifting and encouraging words and we have tried to make a habit of saying out loud what the other one is doing well and sometimes on our way home from visiting our son at the prison. Gene will say to me honey. You really listened to Jason Well today. He was struggling over an issue in. You heard him out. Instead of being really quick to give him advice he needed somebody to listen more than talk today. And those are the things that make you feel affirmed they make you feel. Lifted up and encouraged tremendously. And I. I always think back. I'm a preacher's kid the oldest of six preachers kids. Maybe that's why I'm a little bit bossy. And I'm a bit of a control freak. Can you imagine that? And I'm the kind of person that would love to put up dealing with Jason's incarceration on a to do list where I could accomplish something having to do with that and then cross it off like I've taken care of this but it doesn't work like that when you live in a day to day ongoing situation that doesn't change but I was thinking back to my growing up years and I heard my dad. Tell about a couple who had been in a very serious automobile accident and the man was able to walk away but his wife was in intensive care for a long time and she had severe scarring and in the middle of a very intense argument. One day he said to her you old scarface woman. You can't you do anything right. And do you know from that day forward even though he asked for forgiveness and even though he loved his wife dearly she said whenever he looked at her? Whether it was a moment of intimacy or a room. She always envisioned that. He saw her as an old scar faced woman. And there are certain things. We can't take back. We can't remove the memory of things like that. It can soften over time but as couples. We can think ahead of time to choose words that are edifying to choose words setup left and to practice being a firmer instead of discourage irs. And I'd like to be around energy giving people and I like to in my marriage try to lift gene up instead of tearing down and that has been really really helpful reminds me of that verse in proverbs. Thirty one that talks about sheet. Does her husband good all the days of allies as in that little piece of advice the law of kindness is on her tongue. That can be hard when we're under stress and one of the things that I've appreciated about this book. Is You guys? Fill it with your own stories. Sending David Tell their stories but you also have stories of of other couples that have walked through difficult things and and I do think sometimes. We don't realize that when we are under stress when something hits our lives that were not going to react the same way and that that can actually become a wedge Utah One of the couples that you know. They'd gone through something. He saw one way she side another and it. It literally began to destroy their marriage. Did you in gene navigate that tension where you might have you might have been processing at one way and he was processing Another while one of the things that we did was to agree to disagree and that was really helpful to respect the fact that I know Genus Intelligent. I know he knows our Sunbury. Well and I know that he is someone. Who evaluates what's going on and he's a problem solver and so. I had to give him in my heart that leeway of making some decisions that might not be my ideal situation but I needed to show respect for him in that way which was really really important for me to do and And then he did that for me in there were ways. He served me When Jason was first arrested people would call relatives good friends and it would take about an hour to explain what had happened because Jason never been in trouble before he was a good kid and and he had gotten lots of medals from the US Naval Academy and he was a stellar student in so people were not understanding how he could have done this horrible thing and it was mentally and emotionally and spiritually draining for me to take those calls because I would live through the emotions of what had happened with. Every single person in gene instantly recognized that that was a place that was not my strength that that it was just making me fall apart and so he took those calls in would explain as much detail as was necessary. While I had a chance to to get a grip on my life and then something for me that was so important and I think together we learned it as as a couple is that we needed to learn how to take timeouts. And what we what really mean by that in this book. Is that when you are in the throes of dealing with a child with autism or maybe you're having adoption issues with this child that you love so much but things are not going well you you need to be able to step outside for a moment. Take a breath of fresh air. Don't always be so involved in the next decision. You have to make that you never give your chance a self yourself a chance to breathe and then this is something. I had never thought a whole lot about before but normally when we have a situation in our marriages that's difficult. One of us is stronger and maybe more rested at a certain time than the other one is in. So give your spouse a break you know. Maybe they just need to take a walk on a day when you're feeling strong and you can deal with the stress. And maybe edgy needs to say on certain days honey. Have Lunch with your girlfriends. I know it's going to be uplifting for you Allio with us today. I'll handle this and so it's really important to do that. And Oh here's a tough one for somebody. Who's a control freak? Like I am accept help from other people. One of the couples we interviewed for this book had insisted child who began to have severe anger issues and so we They wound up with just a very very hard time. She would smear her bowel movements on the wall when she was unhappy. It was a very very difficult intense time for them and they had a precious sister of her husband. The aunt of this girl who had often volunteered to babysit while they went to a movie or just did dinner together and they had never accepted at thinking. Oh it would just be too much work for her to deal with artistic child and they said we needed to swallow our pride and say thank you for offering we would be so grateful to have you come over and that wonderful sister-in-law of friend began to give them one night a week for a date night where she would take care of their autistic child and they would know their child was safe and well cared for and they actually were able to get away and do some fun things together and we all need to be aware of the fact that we need to take timeouts in our marriage. Yeah I love that. I love that well and investing in our marriages and investing in our relationship. Because I think there's so much life that is so demanding one of the things as I was looking through this book is. I just realized this is not just for couples that are in situations And it's not even for couples just for couples who've been married awhile. I think this has a lot of value for young couples. What do you think I agree and one of the things? I'VE NOTICED IN RETREATING CONFERENCE MINISTRY. Joanna is that when I talk to young women who are about to get married. There are often some stresses because some of them are coming from families where their parents are divorced and they have been living in a culture where it's very common for people who even have been married for a number of years to leave each other and so they have fears and they're so afraid that the pressures of life are going to destroy this love they have and there are some Self evaluation tools and couple evaluation tools throughout the book. There will be some little box two areas where you can ask your spouse questions that will help you get to know their personality What they like what? They don't like how they deal with the need for rest. How they view the importance of taking breaks in so there are some fun exercises that will really increase communication. And I think for that young couple vet has not faced any of the really tough issues of life as a couple yet that it is a wonderful way to prepare themselves for the future. Yeah for sure I love. It's just such a practical practical book in one of one of the things you guys do. Is You have a whole back of the book appendix. That has thirteen crisis helped sheets. They they're so fabulous. Thank you for taking time to do that. How can we use them in our situations? I am so glad you asked about that because if you were to ask me what is one of the most helpful things in staying power. I believe it's the crisis help sheets because when you have a situation that comes up and you might be in the middle of finding out you're going to be caring for an aging parent or You are now on the last threat of your last nerve redick regarding. You're addicted childbirth. Or maybe they're your child is struggling with some gender issues which seems to be so common these days. Each one of these thirteen helped sheets is one page long and it gives couples resources. They can go to two day to be able to get some answer some resources some advice and I think when you are in the middle of a challenging situation. It's really wonderful to know. Hey here's a whole list of action steps. I can take right now. That will get me more informed. It will give me a Bible based resource and impractical helps so that I know what to do next will that is really truly one of the beautiful things about this book. It's so practical and you give advice that we can use right away. One of my favorite ones was the ten second. Can you tell us about that? Well this is one of my favorite things in the book Joanna. So I'm so glad you asked cleared. A graph is an author who talks about the fact that sometimes decision making is hard in marriage and yet every single day is filled with the need to make important decisions in. He says he tries to live by the ten second rule. And here's what it is. Just do the next thing. You're reasonably certain Jesus wants you to do and commit to it immediately in the next ten seconds before you change your mind. Now I don't know about you but I have trouble making decisions because I want to evaluate the pros and cons of every decision. I have to May and then take as many days as to try to come up with what I believe. Best Solution and it keeps me from using my wisdom and my biblical insights in just doing the next right thing. And so what? Jean and I got out of this. Ten second rule is that we are to evaluate what the question is that we're dealing with especially as it relates to our son's welfare and we need to be prayed up we need to seek the wise counsel of people who know us know him and know the Lord and talk about what the options are and then as quickly as possible. Make a choice. Do it quickly. And then don't look back and start thinking all. Why did I do that? Why did I say that? Just move forward because you believe it was the reasonable decision. God wanted you to make at that time. It's what Jesus would have you do. And that has saved me so much emotional. Agony to just follow the ten second rule evaluate meditate. On God's were discuss it with your spouse and then move forward. Yeah and I think that's that's especially powerful when we're were in those places of pain and so much is out of control to try to be able to discern what is within our realm and what can we end. I love that you know one of the things that I I'd love to have you talk about because I think it touches to the heart of women. You know we really do. Have this idea of how we want life to go in. We've got dreams for our children we've got we've got this whole of scenario whether it's conscious or unconscious of how our life is. GonNa look ten years down the road twenty years thirty years and so especially I just. I guess. My Mama's heart is touched to think that this was your amazing sign. Who was so incredible with so much potential? And not only that. But you're only sad how I know you've written a whole book on. Lean my Isaac down her out there. You guys need to to read that. But as I've just been working on this book on trusting God in learning to let go in surrender but then hold on in faith. How have you navigated that personally? Joanna it is a one day at a time way to live your life and I say that because I am so much the goal oriented person who wants the five year plan the ten year plan and I want it to work out in a logical order and I have needed to say Lord today I give you this day and one of the things I love doing pro walking. It gives me exercise. I try to walk about three miles a day on my at home days and often gene and I will do that together and we will start to pray and we will just say Lord Right now today we just lift up Jason to you. Fathers encounters people on the prison compound help him to be an encouragement and blessing to them. Lord would you allow him to use his education his biblical knowledge and in his personal relationship with you to encourage somebody today and Lord. Would you allow jean-ann me to help somebody else? Who is on a difficult journey today because we know what pain feels like emotional pain and and not having your expectations for your child's life. Be Everything that you hoped it would be and do you know out of that comes a kind of rippling enjoy that. I can only explain in the supernatural dimension and To Win I think back to speaking in Griffin Georgia one weekend and I had been asked to share our story on our journey with Jason and a couple of days later I got an email from a woman named Tammie Wilson. She said Carol. Thank you for showing compassion for the victims of violent crime. As well as telling your own story she said my own mother was murdered. Thirteen years ago in a botched robbery in Saint Petersburg Florida. She said I looked your son up on the Internet and I discovered. He's in the same prison where the man who murdered. My mother is serving his lab. His name is Matthew. Ben Rodriguez. She said for the last several years. I've been praying that someone would share Jesus with Matt. Do you think that Jason would try to meet him and share the Gospel Story with Matt while I'm not allowed to initiate calls to my son. I respond to digitize collect calls so I printed that letter mailed it to Jason a couple of days later I was at a visit. I said Jason. Do you know Matt Rodriguez. He smiled. I said mom. He's my best friend. He's in my counseling class. He's the dynamic Christian only to open the same quiet after counseling class. I said he met is your Middle Name. Ben He said yes. How would you know that he said Matthew Ben Rodriguez she said yes he said will then that I have a letter for you? Handed Matthew the letter from the daughter of the woman he shot and killed in this robbery saying she was praying for him to come to faith and he began to weep and Jason said mom. You're going to meet Matt today. Because his sister's coming to visit he'll be out in the visitation area. A half hour later out came his sister. Mattress called came in greeted his sister with tears running down both cheeks. He came over to our table. Get down on his knees he said. Mrs Kent Thank you. Thank you for sending the letter. I had already written a five page letter to Tammie Wilson and her family asking for their forgiveness but he said I have had no address to send the letter to you. Ask Her if she would receive my letter. I said I met. I got home and I. E Mail Tammie Wilson. She emailed to redress back the same day in since that day. Multiple letters pass back and forth between Matt Rodriguez and Tammie Wilson and Matt and Kim. Tami's sister and Matt and the brother Patrick who was in high school when his mother's life was violently taken and there has been forgiveness and restoration and reconciliation. That I can only explain by God's mathematics in Joanna. I just want everybody listening to our voices to know that no matter what is happening in your personal life in your marriage you might feel like God has let you down in that. There's no more hope you might think. Oh I'd never dreamed I could be in this much pain and you might even feel disappointed in God because you've tried to be faithful to him and it just feels like he's not coming through for you. I want you to know that nothing has to be wasted. That what has happened. You can choose to make an offering to the ward in and I just even know as I'm talking to you. I have my hands raised up saying I relinquish to you. My expectations of what? I thought my marriage would look like what I thought. My life is a mother would look like I never dreamed it would look like sitting in a visitation area in a maximum security prison with razor wire all around me. That was not my dream but Lord I will thank you for the surprising joy filled moments and opportunities in ministry. You give to me as a result of what has happened and I make them an offering to you and all the while I am focusing on eternity because I know of this life is not all there is something more is coming Edwards good and we celebrate that e men eight many men. Oh and how much we missed when we get paralyzed at that point of pain and I love. I just loved that you guys have allowed God to get his hands on you to heal your heart to to keep your marriage strong Guys for paying the price. I'm sure there have been many times. When it would have been easier to give up. It would have been easier not to even talk about your situation especially as a public figure and yet you have just giving God access to it all and I. I rejoice with you at the beauty the beauty. That's come ashes and the gold. The gold that has come from the darkness the treasures of darkness that God has for us. But I I keep thinking you mentioned that had none of that would have happened. Had that young woman not been willing to forgive and I think this speaks so much to our marriages because sometimes are hurt comes out sideways at one another. Sometimes perhaps it's the spouse who has wronged us that they've been faithful or they betrayed us. How how do we walk in forgiveness in our marriages and in art lives? I think walking in forgiveness is an UN choice and I love the fact that Forgiveness isn't just a one time choice. It's a daily choice because the enemy comes. Addison says Oh. Don't you forgive him? He made this bad choice. He hurts you. He made your life miserable so when the enemy comes with those negative thoughts we need to Say Lord. I choose to forgive him again today. Lord I choose joy I choose to walk in fe I choose to put my focus on that which is eternal and I believe. It isn't not just a one time. Occurrence forgiveness is a daily sometimes even a moment by moment choice. And what's interesting? Is that it sets you free. And sometimes we forget that unforgiveness makes us a prisoner of our own making and That is a horrible place to be in and we want to say to regarding forgiveness. Joanna that forgiveness does not navigate the wrong done to you but it sets you free from bitterness and anger and ongoing immobility it. Such you to be free to walk in joy and in love and to move forward in a new direction. Amen Amen. I just think of those women out there that are have had their lives. Radically changed by someone else's choices Broken by the evil that we unfortunately have brought on ourselves in this fallen world and yet when we give our hearts accent give God access to our hearts. He really is able to change us to use everything that the enemy intended for evil Good and I just I would. I'd love to have you pray for those people out there that that just feel like everything's been ruined like every thing's been ruined in. I don't see how it will ever be alright which you leftist to the Lord. I would love to. Oh father being in your presence is so sweet you are the God who loves obsess and I lift up to you every woman who hears my voice right now who has been wronged. She's been hurt. She might be in a situation where her once brightly lit. Faith fire. Feels like it's turning into an ass sheep and Lord. I pray that you would be her healer in her hope. Lord I pray that you would hope to see your face and to hear your voice. Say I won't ever leave you. I won't ever walk away from you. I have loved you within ever lasting love Lord. Right now we place the hundreds of situations that are represented by those who are listening right now into your hands and Lord with open hands. We say God. I give up my control over my husband. My child my parent- my circumstances my grandchild my financial issues my health crisis. God we give to you what we cannot control and we we say Lord. Give me the wisdom to make the next right choice based on your truth. Lord Open our hearts to guidance from people who spend time with you and help us to be willing to receive the love and help from those who surround us but most of all help us to put our focus on that which is eternal that heaven is awaiting all of us who know you personally and one day we will walk in a world where there is no more pain no more hurt. No more sorrow no more disappointment and until we get truly home to have an Lord we will be faithful even if in this world. We don't understand why you have allowed certain things to happen. We will still choose to trust you in Jesus name we pray Amen. Amen Amen Amen Amen Carol thank you. Thank you so much for your time I just. I'm so grateful that you persevered and that you continue to persevere at the time gods and girls I just WANNA encourage all of us. You know what this walk of. Faith is the long haul. It is a long obedience in the same direction. And but here's the exciting thing. We don't do it alone. The Lord is there and I just sent so strongly as you were praying Carol that there are women today that are tapping in to stain keeping enabling power of God and something is shifting something shifting in your situation not excuse me not just necessarily in your situation girls something being in you now live in that power live in that ebeling strength of the Lord in Carol. You keep writing books. We need you girl. Oh thank you Joanna. And it is such a privilege just to speak and write for God's glory and I know you feel the same way we have a shared mission and I love sharing this mission with you my friend. Have you noticed how the enemy loves to use difficulty to divide us during this quarantine time in all this quote unquote quality time? We've been given during this crisis. Well it might be driving you nuts rather than drawing you close to the people you love so I hope you'll take time to apply the tips. Carol share today wants to give us a new perspective on this time rather than living in the future and worrying about what might happen tomorrow. He wants to give us peace today to help us. Access that space of grace. I've created free devotional. Call be still finding peace in troubled times you can sign up to receive your free copy over at China weaver books dot com forward slash. Be Still and I hope that you'll check out the show notes for Carol's episode. 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Stand Down, Soldier

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Stand Down, Soldier

"There's that catchy fi music music chuck. Stir things about coming out with which means you have entered the steam room the podcast that of taking over the world the last time on my check. Do you know how many people had downloaded how many fifty three trillion. Oh my goodness and six fifty three trillion and six and this and people say we would never make this. This is episode four. Yes it is and it promises to be glad. You're able to work us into your schedule. Because I know it's been a very busy week and we'll continue to. Are you busy with a really busy week. Getting to work with Degrade Sam Jackson Spike Lee the great spike Lee a great spike Lee. Just call one one of the Great Sam Texans greets spike spike But then also today I got to work with gymnast. Great gymnast and Larry and neglect. Great Gymnasts Larry Bird and so it's been a busy day but I I was told a guy take I can only work X.. Amount of I was on Thursday because we gotta tape steam room get to capital one. I love working with you guys. We'll be seeing those spots during March madness as we do every every march madness all right first of of all first of all you know you have a lot of money. You get Huntington's Cheerios. I've had two regular Cheerio for a ride a motorcycle. Who makes millions of dollars and eighty first of all zero plus zero zero home? Well I'm GonNa do some special today. I'm on due to do a second of all. See Most of the time you say first of all and then make another point and then say first of all again. Yeah so it's actually to I first of all old male Beckham Junior Mhm I WANNA look right into that camera. You'll man eating about you. You knew when you start giving those kids money it was going to become about you to NC Double Eidos idiots and just taken away from the shine or was arguably the greatest football all season ever heal mastan down. Your team stinks. We team stinks. You have to stand down when you break and rather than winning you can can do whatever you want to but don't make this. Lsu Champions about you taking away to shine from those kids those kids busted there but and all everybody on TV is talking about out is illegal and now the players got to talk about it. Now we gotta talk about his stand down soldier Ciccio as down somewhere US first of all all second of all you know earning Antonio Brown just feel sad man you know marshawn. Lynch is one of my favorite players and just talking about his speech out to the game. Now the daytime. About Ma'am number. One thing is take care of your money and take care of your mind. I loved him saying that. An employee. Because you WanNa make sure when you go out. Dan Play football admired respect. Anybody who played football. You need to make sure you say your mind because this is a very difficult violence sport but he also talked about in Kailua mind watching that Antonio Brown video one of the most disturbing things and you know we we. We had Kevin Love the Marta rose and came out and said I have some issues. I need to seal psychologists and I'll give a shout out out to the NBA. Adam seven those guys been hooking. Anybody who wants to help can go and KIP and not be ashamed that Oh you shouldn't be ashamed of it. Got To this guy who plan for the eagles a offensive and defensive linemen I his name escapes me. He started having panic attack and he. He didn't tell anybody and he finally came out. I've been seen as a cartridge because I've been having panic attack. And that's the same thing happened to Kevin Evan. So man you out there who got some issues man go see us catch and the thing knows really sad about my day. We used to joke about players who had issues but we we want smart enough to know that they had something wrong. We like oh he just different he got oh oh he just liked. That retrospect if I could go back in life in somebody's guys and say you'll man what you doing is is not normal way you acting as not normal. Maybe you need some help. And don't you think too in that and you would speak to this obviously much better than I would but the whole well locker room mentality on the professional level And for a long long time you wouldn't come out and say something because it would be g so mad on his as A. We wish I can't do that. I can't say that I'm dealing with this man. They'll think I'm weak. But Ernie I'm I'M V. That happened is one hundred percent guys. Because there's such a macho thing that goes on in the locker room but I regret now looking back in life and I'm not gonNA put anybody a business on the street. There's so many guys that now you're old enough to understand like 'cause you see how to move in you see how they live turn out. Ah I wish that we had been smart enough. Say the sad thing about our new. We used to joke behind the guys back. Do got some issues but we want smart enough. The noted he realized so. You regret that now. I regret that that you had maybe teammates or guys that you knew in the League that you said that guy's got some issues and now all I'm doing this in kind of joking about and talking to this guy man what's up but and like 'cause we want smart enough to think oh it's all right to see the congress and I regret not because maybe their life would turn out like it did if we had got his when he was playing but to get back to my original point. Man Somebody somebody close to Antonio Brown needs a Yeoman acting is not normal and I just feel sadness sadness because when you play sports like I love Nascar. I love football. I Love Baseball cheaters. We're talking we'll be talking about short but the thing is scary. Is I feel like with some Ham to somebody in another sport. We're in a greatest fraternity in the world and fantasy. Somebody just implode and I just feel sadness but that kid you know what I what the way I see that Chuck Stir I think sometimes James even those who are closest to to a player are afraid the player a wanted to say that he's GonNa cut me off and I'm not going to be part of this. The hardest thing about being famous is to people around. You see you buy all the drinks. You're paying for automobiles. They're flying around on your private. They're never gonNA tell your own and if you surround yourself yourself with crazy people it all like I say we. We know hundreds of examples over the last thirty years that I've been in this business. The people around you they never gone. Tell you know because you've got all the purse strings. The reason Eighty percent of professional athletes go broke and people. Don't say I gambling gambling sometimes but most of the time it's not gambling. It's all the people you've got on your payroll and when you're acting like an idiot and your people like while take him to stop acting like that. No I need my bills paid. I WanNa live his life so is to harvesting try to surround. I'm not gonNa tell them you tell them. Yeah no no no no yeah and Because you know. I'm so glad you bought a point up. Because when I was watching Antonio Brown screaming at the cops in front of the mother of his kids there was another dude here in that dude just sitting there listening to Antonio Brown not saying you man. Maybe you shouldn't be acting like this and I don't know anything about that situation but I'll bet you do on the payroll because there's no way if you're not on the payroll you're going to sit fair and say dude. You're acting rational and sad though back real quickly to the Odell Beckham thing. Look I know that we all have our allegiances. I know look when you see Auburn. Oh making a run whether it's SEC. Football or whether it's SEC basketball the the NCAA tournament yeah you get excited about this and certainly can understand Odell Beckham being fired up about Lsu and and now you win a national championship but but it just seems like why why hijacked the moment you know why because I could never see you. If Auburn cut down the nets I could never see you. I could see you on the floor given Bruce Pearl a hug and high five kids but I could never see you say well let me let me Take some Some paper out here. Hey give you take this. It makes you the center of attention and it and it takes away as you said from all the things that this team had to do to get to where it it's like when you and gymnasts given away trophies at two in in Mba or in college if if Auburn won a national championship Y'all say chuck. You WanNa give him a trophy. I'm like no I was at this time this time. It Ain't me like would it'd be cool for me to give Bruce Pearl Championship. Of course it would be. But if I if you ask me I I. One hundred percent was a nano this our time these guys accomplished is and what Lsu this year Like I say we're having a conversation talking to some friends Vince. Young Tim Tibo Cam Newton. Joe Burro I was trying to think what college player the hat to greatest quarterback season an NCWA history. I mean because I think I still tell people that. USC Texas game to Best College football a game ever seen Tim Tibo arguably in wanted two or three best college football players ever Cam Newton a year. He led Auburn won and a half until the championship was was great. But what Joe Borough. Da Tissue here uh-huh greenest season. A college quarterback has ever had and this'll so legitimate debris and kept national championship. Yes convincing fashion All right so that's That's the first order business. The next order of business is was talking baseball baseball. What a mess? These days And and breaking news on this day that we around the steam broom with another manager of feeling the effects of this whole What do you want to call it? This whole sign steel. It's crazy. Yeah so we need to talk to a baseball guy. Let's do it and we will do that in the next segment point. We welcome Jimmy Rollins. Two Zero mm-hmm back around the steam room everybody's favorite podcast or at least mine. Chuck take matters what a week it has been in major league baseball so AJ hinch the Astros manager. Yes Jeff Jeff Luneau or Jeff Liu now they're GM. Both out. Alex Cora out as manager of the Red Sox he had been the bench coach with the Astros in seventeen and Carlos Beltran just a short time ago. The new mets manager. Now out as mets manager all of this over the sign stealing thing and also don't forget now because losing a first and a second two years in a row. NFL million dollar fine dozo serious penalties. I mean those so I'm glad yeah. We got a legend on here to talk about it. Yeah Jimmy rollins joining us on the steam room Jimmy Nice Nice Towel and And let me let me ask you now. Obviously you see the penalties that have been imposed on individuals and teams How about the damage to the game? mm-hmm of baseball itself. How big is this? I think it's huge You know baseball as we look at the numbers and Viewership is it has been on the decline Showing less interest. And you know they. They juiced the ball is the last couple of years and trying to bring it back and entice people with with a long ball and maybe was working. Maybe it wasn't you were trying to grieve yet the game and make some changes and then this happens and you know a scandal is never never good it brings a Lotta is with these. These are the wrong type of is I I don't know how to Comprehend it all yet. I mean baseball fall and stealing signs has been going on since. We're getting up time and you know you get out there and you get a runner on base and you find a way to pick the system and you beat them at the wrong happens in every sport. Look if you're calling the play or you're calling out a player I see a screen or something and I know what's going to happen then. Yeah I'm GonNa let my teammates no because I want to give us the advantage but using and technology. That's that's where they've drawn a line obviously. Jimmy's is look. It's as old as the game itself. I mean when you were were you knew when you were coming up in your career and you were shoot. You were an MVP. An all-star multiple times a world champion. How much focus was there on trying legitimately to steal signs or say? Hey I know what's coming I know when they're gonNA hit and run. Hey I know one but hey you know you pick these things up from the dugout from the field so so how much how much of that was going on. And how much focus was was there on your part of your teammates part. Oh all the time That was that was one thing that I mean. We got accused other but I mean it is not an accusation. We beat you about the game. We're looking at the DUGOUT signs coming from a manager to the third base coach hit and run Jeff Science them in front of manager to the catcher about whether the whole pick overthrow. So I'm watching everything and if and if I pick it up then that's the my advantage this up to you to make adjustment. I don't have to do anything different. That's up to you so when I got on Second Base I learned the battery. AH The sign. They'll let me know if they wanted or not. That's up to them. Not Everybody wants it but like I said the way was you actually have a livestream from Centerfield Angle Pick the signs and then have a guy in the dugout. You know alert in a battle with no one on base. That's just way too far. I mean that that's really knowing everything that's coming. That's like spring training when pitcher saying. Here's a slider. Here's a change up and of course as a better you're going to take advantage of that once you trust the system. You're you're at a huge advantage managed to question for you. We keep talking about Electron IX technology at dinner. It still comes down to somebody. beat known can that's gotTa like gotTa make you laugh. That's my that's my first question. And secondly do you think these guys should get another opportunity to manage okay I just a second one. I that's tough because of what comes with it You know everybody you know in his life as deserves second third fourth chances Cheating in baseball. You know you go back to the black socks and then you know gambling on baseball and you look at Pete Rose and what happened to him and is is this really any different. You're cheating the game I think if they do get a second chance where they deserve. I think that's up to each individual team. The guy's GONNA survey year Alex won a championship Boston that my host and wait for somebody looking for manager and a couple of years they'll try never got off the ground around. Aj obviously one world series also I think after after a little while once everything calms down I think they will get another chance to manage managed. But if they do I think you know going even deeper you know. How does that affect you know? Pete rose because cheating cheating. Let me ask you this Jamaica Jimmy case so the gloss of trash cans part of the world. That is intriguing. You know here we have. This is high tech way to do this. And this is tech way and it's not like then look into the look into the right field pavilion because there will be a blinking light. Knows I'm going to bang on a trash can live once or twice exactly exactly that you see. But that's a creative genius of it all because you can't walk with the Buzzer in your pocket because it catch will pick up one. But who banging on Trashcans trashcans. Maybe somebody's interrupts. That that made it out rhythmically. Okay so let me ask you this. So so all of this is focused kind of on the Astros and the Red Sox and now the mets because of Carlos Beltran relationship with the astros and seventeen are we to think that these are the only teams doing it or they the only ones gotten co getting caught I think they're the only ones that have been caught. I mean there have been rumors and you know saying that have been said about numerous teams around the league. You know they they have a light system out there. They have a Guy Centerfield that he takes his hat off. He puts it on for certain pitches. All these things as you look certain teams that when runners get on base while the sudden you know the two seventy hitter becomes a four hundred hitter. Then when nobody's on he you know he he's. He's he's a one thirty hitter like how. How does that all make sense? So we've always felt that way about The other chain because things happen in such a fashion that it's like that's just not natural but if you don't get caught if you can't prove it is this is not what you what you can prove if you can't prove it then all it is is a rumor and unless you're on that the home side you don't really know what's going on. Let me ask you this question. This is an interesting point when I'm trying to decipher everything. Okay you got the general general manager who got banned you gotta manager. There's no players been mentioned and like I say Aclu you don't know all the answers but how how many people involved in cheating is my question. Lake did to general manager. I mean he clearly he got fired. But if you chained to you ted a general manager the manager doing it by itself and the players. How does that whole thing work? That's a good question and looking at it from the players view. Okay you get drafted to a team gets. It's ready to what team. Whatever waves on his agent and you get there? There's a system already in place whether you agree with it or not. You're part of it and at some point you're struggling at the place Guess what you know. What I we need a little help? You're going to benefit from from that system So I think the weight at owners should be on the people who created it and allowed it and as a player you might say you know. This isn't this isn't right. We know it's not right but damn we're winning one hundred games now. We won a championship. Happy ship look how much better I'm doing at home than when i WanNa road and then you factor in well if I stay here for my whole career. That's a lot of money to me because I'll be take advantage of this the whole time so I mean the the players is common like they're married into it whether they WANNA be. They're not there but the people created the system Definitely should you know take take the weight of it and who everybody and anyone else who knew what was going on. And you don't want this to get throughout the whole organization so it has to be tight lipped about to be kept in the clubhouse and you know within a couple of people if anyone asks like I don't know what you're talking about because you know I mean things are GonNa things are gonNA leak. Sometimes people are gonNA tell but if too many people know then it's going to leak and then it would've been a firestorm that's at some point But here we are now another storm because somebody decided. Hey you know what we were doing was not right or they cheat over there. I got another technology question for you. Jimmy and I don't know if you know your numbers off the top. You heard him you know how. How many bases you steal? Because I know your top top twenty one in the national the National League history awards. What thirty five or something around there if they had replay the way they have it for your entire career? How many stolen bases would you half F. O.? Product cut that in half. I mean it's crazy isn't it. I mean that's one thing it's one thing Jimmy that drives me crazy because I don't think that's done in the spirit of of replay to expect an umpire to have this superman x Ray Vision to be able to slow everything down and see if for for a a nanosecond. Your arm came off that bag while a guy kept the tag egg on you and so you were out even though you clearly beat the throw. That drives me crazy. Because I don't think it's the spirit of thing but on the other other hand if if you were a shortstop and you're in a tag on somebody you're probably like a net. So so how do you fall on that man. I just I just wish and again I'm GonNa let you talk talk but you know what I wish they would do on a stolen base. Call like that. You can look at it again you can replay it in regular speed it just the way the empire was looking at it and if you can reverse a call from from regular speed okay go ahead and reverse it. What do you think I hear you As a base dealer is happened to me My last year in two thousand sixteen. Exactly as you said. I'm I mean I'm I'm full. You know fingertips my elbow safe but as you're sliding your momentum take you across the bag. I do everything I can keep my body on a bag. I'm literally smothering him back back. But when you slow it down by frame by frame by frame I'm off the back by half an inch clearly safe then I'm ruled out and it's like that's that's like that that's not what it's used for. I am clearly safe at my momentum is taking me clearly off the bag and I'm trying to hang on in shortstop or second base. Third Baseman is is keeping a tag on me okay. I can agree with that because I overslept the back. But I'm literally smothering a bag and when you slide that you hit the ground you're gonNA bounce up so now you're penalizing me for something that's going to naturally happen. There wasn't a mistake me. It was just as you hit the bag. Your Body. Your body's lifts off unless you're slide into to a corner of the bag. Now you're trying to hold on with your fingertip now on the other side on the defensive side. I like it because it gives us the benefit This guy was out and it was Chris Situation. He was say but he came off the bag in his messed up. But man that really helps us. You know in this situation so get it both sides but in the spirit of being a base stealer and what replay was four. I agree with you one hundred percent. It was not meant to see the guy pop off the back for millisecond that okay just momentum took them off the back he came off the back. Let's see if he made it back to the bag before the tag was reapplied since one hundred the percentage of the guy literally pop off the bag and then a natural flowers. Clearly say I agree with you last thing. This is just a quick answer as we say as we say goodbye to your Jimmy is your niner fan. Give me the score is Sir niners packers. Give me a final score. A final score of Mac. I give you win a loss okay. We we plan plan in the bay. I say it is twenty seven twenty twenty four nine or gang. Wow that'd be great to watch Ron at that many points. You know riders man. That's bad boy. The bad boy Jimmy Rollins. Great talking to you man. We really appreciate you taking the time with your insights on what's going on a major league baseball and seasonal. Be here before you know it. Thanks a lot Jay royal awesome. You know obviously I live in Philadelphia during the summer. And I've been a big PHILLY's fan and I've got to know Jimmy Ryan Howard our really really well. The last waiver some glory days winning the World Series and then we lost again to the Yankees which was so also just going up Bona train back and forth from New York to Philly. The city was on fire with all. Those Yankee fans came down on that on that a little hour and fifteen minute train it would just crazy. It was great in a man. But I tell people those two of the nicest guys you ever GonNa meet Jay Role Ron Howard. No doubt more coming up on the steam room. Our buddy going to stop by to but is an over exaggeration. All our our beloved love. It friend Tim Kylie. Now he's beloved. Yeah well that music can only mean one thing. You are so white. The man with the central Catholic Catholic Vikings hat and the and the creamy white thighs. Tim Kylie's that's your high school. That is my high school a it's slightly different colors honor of shack. And all I wanNA know tonight before we start the local news. Ernie is the national news. which you guys? Are you going to be gracious the shack. Yes because wait wait. Hold on because we do you. Are you actually let him speak AAC. Yes well seconds not like earning. What do you mean you the most obnoxious Georgia fan in the world? I am not put the helmet on a desk. We were ranked number one in everything the last few years. Yeah just. I'm not sure what's wrong with that. You you start out talking about Georgia checked anything like I don't even know if he knew unless you want to play on a Monday. I didn't know that anyway was a you in the mood for for local news local news. Yes the music now. That's much better live and local news breaks we've fixed action new at eleven chuck Dateline Orlando You did not graduate from Arbor correct. I did not. I have a school for you to re enroll students at one Florida. University may have new trouble avoiding the freshman fifteen. The University we have North Florida in. Jacksonville has installed Pizza ATM. It's a vending machine that serves up pizza with just the push of a button pizza basis precooked and when someone orders there's one it's heated up dispensed in just a few minutes kids. Today machine is located at one of the residence halls on campus. What a great idea? Well well I'm okay. That's great. I'm not wait. We don't know that yet. I know that it's a great idea. So it will ask you a question. Is this not similar to ordering takeout from McDonald's. No no art impeach. It's not the same as audience takeout from McDonald's and Wendy's on one of those stupid asks that's when you just really lazy and just for the record you don't Wanna I know you don't know what's the problem with ordering and then going and picking it up no living they bring it to you. Oh really they'll bring McDonald's Wendy's auto stores. I thought you could just get on the APP. And then you it'd be ready for they. Have they deliver it to more music kid. DETERMINE DEPENDABLE LABEL DATELINE NEW JERSEY. Chuck you actually do use home shopping. Channels deny never. I thought you said did you shopped at these things. No no okay no I. I've had things delivered to your house you well. Maybe maybe it's those Those commercials that stuff but I always go and get it. I've never ordered anyone all. Let me tell you something. It's a good thing you didn't go and get this one New Jersey. Mom says she got a very gross Amazon delivery. have to check this one out. She ordered two boxes of diapers from Amazon She does every month for her two daughters when the package arrived this week. She was horrified. There was a little bit heavy. I was half asleep. The lights were off at that point. I turn on the light. And that's when I notice these diapers are neatly folded. And they are soiled soiled diapers attack okay so so the story is. She bought diapers on Amazon on Amazon. They were delivered and two all of them had been used. No the whole package was full of neatly folded soiled diapers you got to admit the person's a pig but that it is for funny. I mean they took the time you said they would immediately fold it. Fold so that tells me the person got a good sense of humor and I guarantee you this is somebody probably knows to you. Did you actually change Cristiana diaper at any point in your life. No I've never have a change a diaper in my life. Check you get faint hearted when there's any kind of a chrome anywhere near your desk. I don't apologize for being clean. It's not my fault y'all animals. I want my boy Jeff. Foxworthy likes to say he's talks about diapers and he said look when it says on the on the package ten to twelve pounds. They don't hold much more than that. There you go bathroom stall It's always good music. Boys always good to see. You always trying to try to keep up appearances here. Check thoroughbred legs thoroughbreds like Lofa breads. What else we have coming up on the show one of your favorites? shucks answering machine back inside the steam room Ernie Johnson. Along with Charles Barkley Lian in this age of technology and great advancements. It's always nice to have a final segment that revolves around the old answering machine. In this case. Chuck's answering machine you resolve Barclay leave a methods America. Hey Chuck Man I just WanNa know. Can you grow hair. Well I can grow hair. I got a big doughnut in my ahead. Though I was one of those guys you know some guy's recede from the front I just had a big hole in the top of my head so like you're talking about me going you know. Yeah I got one of the Nano Lega C I. I can actually grow hair on the outskirts of town up in downtown. I got a big hole in my head and let me tell you some Ernie. I don't know when you notice you started going ball. Well I haven't really noticed. No no no. But I'm saying I'm thinking I was twenty four twenty five it's a traumatic attic experience like I say I don't know when you first notice it but like when I I noticed I was going ball I was like. Oh something's going on on here. What was the last time you actually had like a head of hair? I had an Afro in Highschool. Yeah he's had some here at Auburn. I I started a craze when people start shave not saving ahead going down to waves when you just burst a hole in your head to make it wavy so I think right out the high school wasn't that crazy started when people also going to show it hair But man it's dramatic when you I think you should until now till the NBA playoffs start just consciously honestly grow hair and to see what that looks like opening night in the playoffs. Not Attractive is not I mean. I know it's hard to mess up the money maker but I am much better looking bald and I'm not saying I'm great looking but I'm much better. Look look in ball than would have. Let's go to caller number two. Hey Ernie and Charles. My Name is staff and I'm from Sydney Australia. I watched it inside the NBA every week and now. I'm loyal steamer steam a- As a fan as you this may know a strategy is currently being ravaged by bushfires so I don't have a question for you have a special request. Could you please ask all your fans to dig deep in their pockets. They can send help to our volunteer firefighters who are helping. Keep US safe in our beautiful country. Sadly we're losing so much each day in terms of that native wildlife US Bushland hunts and even people your words support would mean sign match sending love from down onto staff. Well you know and A and B that was a that was amazing call number one. Thank you for being a law steamer but please everybody out there Reach in your pocket. we need to find a place to send some and that's why I was gonNA say look online to and just see Because I need to do the same thing. Just find out what what what is the relief agency then yeah of preference to to help over there because yeah it's you know we should talk to do our favorite. NBA Player winkle. Joe ingles he will know at least give us a proper context but everybody watching a steam room a WHO watch internally the inside please donate something I mean because a little suffered ass up to a lot and I will promise you man. I'm all send you some money. Man Ernie GonNa send you some money. We just got to find out the right agency to send it to But that's just terrible story and we encourage everybody everybody to to get on board with that too whether you have you know. We've been to Australia before. And it's a magnificent I times and and and I know you've been to news is just frightening and in the and then you see and now that the castle in the tournament's lead into the Australian Open one because the air quality is so bad. I saw this one young girl got so sick. The other day they had to stop her match But man we and and I I wish the American press would cover it more because I think more people see that they will start giving more the money and we need to know where to get money to make sure it actually gets there but I wish the American press as much as we're wasting time. This impeachment stupidity Pity and stuff like that. We need to help Australia. Final at Lincoln County Jail if you would like to continue this call up to twenty minutes by accepting a charge to your credit or debit card. Please press one if if you would like to set up or add funds to a prepaid advanced connect account in order to pay for future calls. Please press to the week. Party disconnected goodbye. We got a call from jail. Lincoln County jail. What whichever Lincoln County? There's a lot of Lincoln's Yes yes and probably I mean was that was that somebody. You're allowed one phone. Call none on somebody who who who seen gene. We're incarcerate because I will tell you some. I've had to unexpected. Pledge Making that phone call you have to call collect the the unexpected affected the way that the right way to phrase that no not at all but unfortunately it's not like operators are standing by at Chuck's looks answering machine. No because earn. No because you know this how long ago it was remember somebody on the other end has accept the charge. Right because I remember Early Eighties I had to call my mom and my mom taught. It was a joke. Did she accept the charge. She did and did she let you. You have it not that time to which she had to bear me out of the way to get home to get yelled at but it is. It is kind of funny because you do the American. I'm not joking you have to call collect and like I say I don't know how it works today but back then commitment we've gotten collect calls before you have to say you're going to collect call from Seattle the the charges charges but man. I hope I hope you get out of jail. Bless you we need all the steamers. Even those does the Lincoln County Lincoln County Lincoln County jail. We should do that. Survey would underdog. We need to find out. How many Lincoln County are? I mean if if you can't find it can't be foul. Yeah and we'll find who was trying to call us in the steam room That's it for this episode of the Steam Room. The Charles Barkley Ernie Johnson. Thanks a lot for for tuning in and we will see you again. Next time as the door closes

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The Mud Butt Room

Wells Adams and Brandi Cyrus's show

45:29 min | 1 year ago

The Mud Butt Room

"Oh I got I'm in. I'm in the most angry mood right now. You don't even so am I. What's wrong with you other than the obvious obvious? Yes it was wrong with you other than the obvious. What's the obvious? I mean you got some props brand some grabs we give. Obviously it's GonNa take me a solid five minutes to talk about my problems. So let's hear yours I Okay so we just got back from Mexico and Yeah you looked hand thank you. I feel tapes and so I was making the cool Dean Angler video with my drone and I've got this new are told you last week. I got this new MAC book Pro Ana to keep giving me this error message that the mother fucking videos are still in the camera. It was when I have to read up. Do the whole thing. And it's not that big of a deal. We'll work on all morning. Well guess what I've been doing all morning long astor's been shitting all over the place you know what for ones. It's not my dog. Well if I didn't know better I would think that I am. I am. I'm dog sitting for trace which I'm deeply regretting reading. And I'm pretty sure. His Dog Nanak got into some fricking sugar-free Harrow. gummy bears. Because I've been eating John Correa for the past twenty four hours. Oh no watery massive. The dog weighs a hundred and forty pounds. It's it's massive poos. It's runny poos. He's ruined to rugs that I've had to pull by myself. Take all the furniture off the rugs and dragged him outside because they smell smell so bad and then last night I guess he had diarrhea again in the mud room where everybody sleeps. 'cause I woke up this morning to to diarrhea just all over everything in my bedroom mud but room. I'm not kidding. Like IDA throw out two or three dog beds blankets like like he just shit on everything even ship my dyson but I was able to clean that shit on the thing that cleans shit yeah. That's some fucking next level villain chef. That's what I've been doing. All Yours is much worse minds just frustrating. It's like what is going on here. You know. Oh annoyed we're GONNA figure it out. Have you start twenty nine. Oh have you called trace and was like hey by the way yeah and he feels really bad added like new Nukus never ever partied in the house. Ever and I'm like well. He is now and you need to come home at. He's like oh I can't come home. I got US music. I think I'm going to stay a couple extra weeks and I'm like no. No no no no no no no no no no. I'm not sure what's going to happen but I am going to go crazy. That's one the thing I do know I will say you're just like the dog sitting bitch of the Cyrus family I know. But here's the thing I have owned a dog for a long time. I'd adviser before it had Astra and I know what it's like to need to travel and have such a hard time finding someone to watch your dog. That's like reliable and not charged. New like like a ZILLION dollars a day to come stay like it's so tough and I just feel so bad because I've been there that I just offer and then I always regret it all right. Well this is supposed to be a fun and positive place so we need to cleanse ourselves of the negative. You know okay. Did you WANNA start the show. I feel like we started the show with some some negativity that we can. Now kind of get into the real show with some positivity that all right that was the shortest shortest Chitchat cold open we have ever done. Because we'RE GONNA turn around for you guys. I promise I don't know I don't know what's going to. Maybe you're GonNa get you know because the whole podcast walk ask is kind of learning about our crazy lives. Well you know what buckle your seatbelts boys and girls because this is angry wells in brandy episode eighty four the mud but ruled. Let's go pro tip. Yeah only just get one dog and don't ever offered hurt. Take anyone else's dog into your home ever. That's my protect. I like it. I like that Okay so Mir you adding here turn Bros. in hose you're listening to your favorite thing podcast with wells and Brandy A. It's officially the New Year. I mean we'd put out a New Year's episode but we actually recorded it beforehand so this is really the new year same me app you are in Washington. DC Spin the VINYLS Scrap vinyls but yet scratching the needles on the ones and twos and threes. Night was I have. I have a really great story a great New Year Story. You're it all right. This is a lighten the mood probably. It's actually it could have been. It could have been a dark thing. Okay let me just start from getting thankfully this didn't happen to me but So I travel with My Buddy Aj EMC's for me as I DJ DJ. Because I hate talking on the Mike. And he's really at work in the crowd my buddy. Aj was with me and are really good friends. Derek actually lives in La but he flew out to do nears with us and and then my friend Carson was with me and My set was from like midnight to one thirty which was really cool because I got to do the countdown ring. Everybody and play for an hour and a half and then in one thirty and I'm like bedtime because that's me and so I go upstairs or you know better than ever. We totally go. We go to sleep. Would probably that eight hour sleep is great. Wake up the next morning and text the boys and I'm like hey guys up and they're like you're not gonna believe what happened to us and I was like white light and so they're Derek was told me the story and he was like all right so there was this girl in the crowd that was like flirting with Aj from stage like all night long and I was a guidance zero zero shock and he was like. Okay well this girl he was like so when you guys left we went back out there because somebody else. Dj after me. And they brought this girl like up to the stage age or whatever and I was a great mistake number one and then they were like and then since you guys went upstairs we brought her back to the green rooms. Nobody was in it and we were hanging out with what we hang in. The green room have a drink. Listen to some music we speaker in there and they were like we weren't in the green room more than two minutes and this girl passes out. She still drunk like incoherent. They can't wake her up and they're like what we do and they're like call somebody and Derek's like we can't call somebody. We are to adult black. c'mon with a passed out drunk white girl and this looks bad this looks really bad and AJ's like I don't know what to do so they get her outside the carrier basically basically outside trying to wake her up. Get her out main hallway but like the trek from the Green Room like this danger to the actual hotel rooms like Kinda Long. Somehow they get hitter to like the elevator area and they get out of her that. She's on the eleventh floor. Which is actually the same floor? We were all on so they get up to the eleventh floor. And they're like walking down. The hallway turned fair room. She's in and miraculously they find her group of friends. They're all going to their room and they're like oh like what. What what do you guys do in? And the guys were like freaked out. They were going to think like they drug this girl that this sketchy was going down and they were like. Oh my God please take her like she's not okay. Take her to her room like help her the end they said the girls like poking her and stuff and they were like. She's good she goes. You guys know she can't and and the girls just left their friend with Deragon Ajay and just left and they were like well. We don't know what to do. As they brought the girl out of their room she fell asleep. They had two beds in their room. She fell asleep at the foot of one of the beds or whatever and then. Aj slept in that bed. I guess and Derek slept in the bed. I guess we'll just let her sleep and then she can wake up and leave Steve. I guess so they wake up. She was cuddling Derek. When he woke up he was so freaked uncomfortable that he just ignored it which is totally what I just ignore it? And he was like look like eventually she's GonNa wake up and just leave and so he waits for her to leave and when she finally leaves they get up get out of bed and and find that she had pissed the bed and AJ's bed which is why she moved to Derrick spent. That's how drug she was. She actually pissed herself. I didn't know that was a thing. Have you ever been so drunk. He peed on your cell. We were talking about this in Mexico. Actually I've slept walked so drunk that I really wouldn't peed on the wall. That's pretty bad deal and I remember how they always say like never wake up asleep Walker. Yeah and it was the only time it's ever happened. My ex girlfriend woke me up and I I was so. You're feeling a lot of emotions because one year like in a different world right and then all of a sudden you get sucked back into reality then you realize Oh my God. I'm pissing on my wall right now and so then you're embarrassed but you're also scared because you like what's been happening and I almost freakin lost. It I was like well. That's what happened to me so it is possible. That is nuts nuts. Well that's what happened to the boys. I feel really bad for them but at the same time I'm like that's what you get for free in a girl that you don't know on stage And I feel bad for the girl girl because her friends just didn't care and left her. The whole thing was just insane but not just goes to show. Yeah I mean you go to these kinds of parties and it's like you get ten free drinks. Take it in an inconclusive hotel like you gotTa Watch your liquor. Like don't get so drunk. I mean just crate Z. So that was. That was my kind of New Year's everybody it was just blackout. That's funny that's good and you made some money. I did a little bit of money. Had Fun with my friends got to go to Washington. DC which is one of my favorite cities visit. So yeah yeah well I was in. Mexico was a wonderful time. We went with a couple of couples so that was nice. I was making making some mental notes of Mexico this time around so I've got some things about Mexico that we need to get into. Okay okay we we're staying close to Plateau Carmen and we were going to a Mayan ruin was cobo which is dope by the way. And it's a last Mayan ruin that you could walk up the pyramid pyramid because they're and they're about to shut that down because it's a gigantic liabilities. Hundreds of people climbing up the sheer face. rockwall basically trying to get the top stop but if you make up the topic well this is really cool so we were driving over there and we stopped at a gas station to get some stacks. You know. I'm not just talking about Mexican snacks Real Quick Mexicans have no regard for your butthole at all when it comes snacks. Because there's only snack act flavors that will light your balloon not up a million degrees. It's all flaming Hot Takis and citrus. Line live with how Benigno Fire Cheetos and Doritos with actual dynamite on them. It's all Surat. I was looking guys. have a normal like cool ranch. No Crueler Anson's NEOM yeah. They dislike loves spicy and I applaud Them they've the Mexican people have somehow evolved away that there colon is impenetrable that that trump is. They cannot really really bro. Yeah well what is the word. It's made of steel indestructible that they have indestructible bottles over there Still sounds wrong but it does. It's true it's the truth. I have so much respect for it. All right The other thing I know is on the way over to the Mayan ruin and Sidney Tate. There was is probably between forty seven thousand and five thousand little shops selling hammocks and dream catchers. Who's WHO's buying all these fucking dream catchers over there who's buying a hammock and being like you know what I WANNA do? I WANNA fly with this thing fucking later this week this giant piece of wood. What in all this yarn we're going back to Cincinnati guys? Know why would you. Are you selling that no sitting in that Shit and then those everywhere they have those at tourist places in South Africa. No yeah totally. So many dream catchers. They're catching so many dreams in Mexico. Why do you hate dreams? But the catch the bad dream though I know I know but when we were flying back we were behind a couple who she was definitely from New Jersey. 'cause way too Tan and well you know what I'm talking about and the guy was having a care it was not a it was not a one piece. It was a two piece Hanoch set and he was having to put it through the x-ray machine and I was like they're going to have a meltdown about this button havoc. You know it's going to happen like you know. He's mcduck this habit like and why are we bringing this back to Secaucus right now. You knew it was about two weeks and we'd only just gotten through the X-ray you could. Tally was fuming. It was so funny where we are staying. There was a beach cabanas right. And there's one bathroom by the beach bar that you could go and mute news right. It was basically the bathroom for. I don't know maybe fifty people who were like hanging out on the beach going back to like my thought about like Mexican stores only so now sell snacks that just absolute light your butthole up you know. Then then you also have like Ms Montezuma's revenge you know and there's also Tequila which we we all know what that does. I went into that bathroom like the first day and I was like this Mexican beach. Bathroom has a horror story to tell you know like if if that bathroom could talk. It's like the brave little toaster of Mexico. You know Michael. Think about the things that have happened in that. I don't think I want to hear any of the stories as bad as tell. Can you imagine near the scene. I came into this morning and the mud room. I don't WanNa know anything about. Oh my God you know. I'd imagine like the bathroom at like an AA meeting and just like smoking a cigarette in like you guys. Don't know what I've seen anyways but it was really wonderful. We Like the place that we go to and it was a good like couples trip. I'm excited for Reinhard to move here because then you can be kind of in the fold old of the couple of trips but yeah a couple of trips it's a more evolved way to travel But then it devolves very quickly quickly because Mexico has a lot of Keila Yeah Yeah it was great and then. A New Year's New Year's Eve was I got so drunk on New Year's Day like I was like I don't know how make midnight yell like it's me talk and so we all sit down and out like looking at my watch. What am I talking about is looking? Yeah my phone and it was ten thirty now. Okay I can make any make an hour and a half years you better make an hour and a half to kiss me on midnight and then you can leave you know and I was like okay. I can took us and then like I like an hour later. I looked at my phone analysis. It's it's ten thirty two like I couldn't get past ten thirty two save my it was just like and then like two hours went by and I went and danced and sang and met people I looked at my phone. It was ten thirty three. I was like what am I think. As long as you get to midnight on the East Coast and watch the ball drop or whatever normally then. You're like okay I did it I made it yeah. We were on east coast time technical anywhere. I wanted to say this. 'cause this is gonNA come out against the day after it happens right. This is out on Wednesday. Maneuver thing is that I'm the host of the BACHELOR RECAP ON. Good Morning America now and again. So you've officially made it when you're on. Good Morning America. Yeah Rub elbows and hobnobbing with Michael Strahan Raihan. Yeah he's the man. When does that start? Technically well I guess. Gosh the bachelor premiers on Monday Are you excited. I am excited about the bachelor. I I love Pete benefited pipe. Eat Fans and splash season and I actually know one of the girls on the show which one I'm with her sister Should I I guess it's okay if I say it a They've released the girls. The why is it weird. If vice say it's not right. I should ask her. Can I say I know you It's okay it's Kelly Flanagan. I'll ask her later in Connecticut it out if not with her sister Pamela. She rescues news horses and rehabs him to be Polo ponies which is really cool her. Name's Pamela Flanagan. Not on the shot. My friend her sister Kelly. Her sister Kelly is on the show. There's another other Nashville girl on there. I think Ames Hannah sloughs sloughs. We'll this goes on a national girl. She's a Chicago okay. I got friends everywhere. ORWELL's friends in low places and high places and snowy places and like okay. Let me ask you this question about the bachelor. This is just brutal but do you WanNa Fuck Peter. No I have a boyfriend I know like as a woman. There's no right answer here except no without me getting in trouble. We'll like us. Okay here's the thing I feel like. Everyone wants to Bang Tyler Tyler Moore sex-abuse but yeah we're like like even like Colton by mail or the giant baby because he did cry but like if you meet him I mean Jesus man that guy's huge you know I understand the sex appeal that Nick Vale you no okay. I'm GONNA get it. He's pretty shredded. And but I would not fuck Dick by Al.. Alright then higgins six five okay so this is what I was GonNa compared to to me. I've never met Peter in real life so we'll take with a grain of salt but to me. He's he's a very Ben Higgins Bachelor where Ben is like such to Nice good guy and he's handsome but it's not like he has this overwhelming sex appeal by any means he looked seems a little bit nerdy. But he's but he's cute. That's that's kind of how I feel. Peter is it's like he's not like he doesn't like exert sexual energy when he walks into the room. Do you really want that as your husband. I feel like it's better to go for like the Nice handsome guy. Yeah and the guy that just like exudes sex appeal so all say tyler. Tyler is actually also really nice but yes. He's very nice. Do you remember when everyone wanted the other. Peter Peter to be the bachelor and then he wasn't and then it was already and everyone's like what y all the girls like where I actually came from other guy I don't know I think there's a pardon. There's a part of me that's like there's a bunch of chicks. There is a bunch of women there that are like. Oh it's it's not tyler tyler can I really. He did pete a solid by saying that they fucked in the windmill. More than once twice three times or something I think for whatever that Congress doesn't Y- you changed everything for him. Yeah I think everybody that watches the bachelor saw him differently after that hundred. Yup You're right. All of a sudden became a Coxswain. You know hopefully yeah. You're right you're right okay so I I was just asking the question because I was like I wonder if people are. I've been seeing the promos on the phone on my phone of of like what. What did you do when you found Peter? The girls being like. Oh I just started crying I figured out okay but if you found data's tyler what would you have done you know like But you're right you're one hundred percent right the the windmill just don't even know what you WanNa call that sexcapades yeah j yes solid she. NFL and it looks like she's coming back for some seconds or yeah they make. It seem seem like that though. Don't they hurt. Some things person thinks. Well I'm excited to watch. I think Pete seems like a good guy. It's fun that I know somebody on there so I'm excited about it if I am in town. I'm not chairman. Be In town or not yet but hometown. I'M GONNA have a couple of friends over. Watch the premier live tweeted tweeted. Get back on my leg tweet game and all that. So yeah that's exciting well super pumped to watch you and good morning America. That's really exciting. Will Not be thought about. Is that so I think the idea is that is that we're going to have people that got kicked off the night before on the show with me. So that's I'm going to get to meet all all these people and then invite him on our podcast. This is all just one scheduling ploy. That's perfect brand day. What's up you know? My favorite things is that look cool is a Jackie school gym trying to trick trick people into thinking. I'm cool and one easy way to make yourself look cooler than you really are dope ass glasses from Warri Parker. Have you taken the The Quiz on Lori Parker Dot Com. Yet you know what I haven't but I already own pair for Parker glasses so I'm already looking. Well what was I went and took the quiz earlier today. Okay and I love it okay. So here's what I asked you. What types of you know like glasses shape you like? What kind of colors do you like tortoiseshell or black or wire Frames Ashley all kinds of stuff. 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I'm here to tell you exactly what people have already told me. It does get better about midway through the season like it starts to pick up some cool like twists and turns start happening that you don't really expect and the series is so so so good at the end until like the last three minutes. Oh think they botched the last three minutes and they added it in. I know what they're doing here. The last three minutes are to segue into a season three but I just feel like they could have done it better if they hit either ended the Episode before the stay tried to do a segue it would have been awesome or if they had just figured out a different segway. I don't love what they did at the very end interesting Ohka. It's worth watching because there are some twists and turns that you don't really see coming and it does get it does get much more interesting and more dynamic as You keep watching so I say watch you season two. I watch probably half of it while we were in Mexico and I was like once again disagree with Brandy. 'cause I like this. Yeah it definitely got better and then I also watched. It's not new. I think it came out. In September so says Google it was just like scrolling through net flicks and came across his movie trailer. That I hadn't seen for Netflix film called fractured dear. Watch that I don't know who's in it Sam Worthington. I like this too because to tell me about it. It was so disturbing that I had to then start watching the first season of Friday night lights. It's afterwards so that I didn't have nightmares. I need something like happy and feel you feel good to watch afterward cleanse for net flex. I'm not kidding I had. It was scary so the psychological thriller. Which I I love these kinds of movies And I was. It was like that and Sam Worthington really sold me on. It came out on October eleventh into saw the date Okay so premise. So Sam Worthington plays guy named Ray and they are on him and his wife and daughter that are on a road trip and somewhere like on this road trip they stop at a arrest stop and they end he. It's snowing and stuff and and they get out of the car. The wife that goes into the gas station and then ray gets out of the car with his daughter water and he's like doing something in the car and when he turns around. There's this dog growling at his daughter and she's like on the edge of this like like wall. That obviously like has a huge drop on the backside ride and something happens where this dog. She's so scared of his dog and his dog growls and whatever and she falls and he jumps after and they land on the ground and and like they're all hurt everyone's her and so they rush. They get in the car and rushed to the yard because the girl has like a broken arm his head's bleeding. It's like a whole thing and they they rushed to this your car and from the minute he gets there like it. Seems like sketchy stuff is going down in this like he. He sees somebody like hand cash to an ambulance and give them like a human organ organ box. You know what I mean like. He's freaked and so this whole time as they check in like things are asking weird questions and he's like so sketched by this hospital and then all of a sudden not in like the his daughter and wife Gaw for like a C.. T. Scan or something and he waits in the lobby he falls asleep wakes up hours later. And they're saying that there is. There is no daughter that he checked in alone. They don't know what he's talking about and they make him seeming nuts. Anyway there's twists turns. It's very good. It kind of reminded minded me in a weird way. It doesn't sound like anything similar but just kind of the way. The movie played out. air-minded me of that movie identity. John cusack that came out like early two thousands or something something. Yeah Yeah we're just don't know what to believe because they're showing you different things and people are sending the Asia's nuts. I thought it was really good right fractions. Mary have you heard about the witcher yet. I've been wanting to watch it okay. So we got a couple of episodes in. If you haven't heard about this. The lead need is Henry cavill. He was superman for the past. Five zero men movies so like big guy in this one he plays basically basically a witch or a witcher. That is a monster hunter. And he's well. I'll just read it. A mutilated monster. Hunter struggles to find his place. Least New Orleans which people are improved more wicked than the beasts. The witcher played by Henry. cavill looks exactly like Lego Las us from Lord of the Rings. He's got like white long hair and to Yeah he's a kind of a bad ass monster hunter and and it's pretty cool. I gotta say check again. It's pretty good okay. Yeah we were watching it. In the beginning I was like I was like the acting very good good in this and then the people that we thought were bad. Die Media Oh okay they are. They're gone and then they're like the first fight senior. WHOA WHOA WHOA? What is this like this? This guy's obviously very good at fight scenes being Superman And then the Bessul effects are really really good. WanNa kill off the too bad actors that everyone was great. So Oh wow okay I haven't WanNa see that. Check it out. I haven't seen the show yet. I'm not yet. Guess what I saw a preview for yesterday today as I was scrolling. So our buddy ozark mark us telling us about his show the outsider yes kingdom that we're the outsider the outsider. He didn't tell us that it's a frequent. Hbo Series Hbo Netflix. Because it's a Stephen King novel I know but like I assume news networks I guess because it was like him and Jason Bateman and he was like a lot of that same crew he has he has stepped up to the HBO Series Level Super Excited for him. The trailers out. It looks awesome. Looks Scary. Can't wait wait for it to come out and then it comes out in a couple of weeks I will say that. That book is is scary. There are some Stephen King novels around. It's kind of like hokey but it to yet. I can't watch it a terrifies me so like we watch on the plane last night and by the way I loved it. Don't get me wrong here. But the but there's a little bit of like silliness to it. You know like the monsters that he creates. You're like there's a seventeen foot tall woman with huge saggy tits running around naked like Stephen King. What are you doing that night? When you're right in that you know Klecko happening here? Yeah I will say that was really really good like I. I really liked it too. Okay well it looks like I'm going to have to wait for Reinhard to get here to watch this this out CIDER. They outside Series with because it does look very scary super pumped about for mark. It looks really good. Bench yeah okay. So I'm doing so much traveling just this month because I'm filming an episode of GMA every single week. So I'm stuck on planes going back and forth Camila which means I'm bored which means I'm looking for a fun way to pass the time while engaging membrane and enjoying breathtaking visuals and gripping storylines and the game that I've been playing while I've been flying back and forth from New York is best fiends again. Loves this game is where I want you tell us about a well. So best fees is a casual game. Anyone can play but it's made for adults you spend as much or as little time as you'd like in the game but he was right now. I've been playing so much while while I fly like you know how your phone tells you how long you been like looking at your phone each week. And you're like God Yup. I'm an idiot. You know now that in playing best fees. I don't feel so bad about it because it's a fun game and it's stimulating brainwaves. Right so I don't feel like such a millennial loser. Yeah well that's great you you know Reinhardt loves to play this game so you guys should play each other. 'cause I'm pretty sure that you can play your friends and family and compete against them and stuff like that. Sounds pretty cool for sure. So engage your brain with fun puzzles and collect tons of cute characters trust me with over a hundred million downloads. This five star rated mobile puzzle game is a must. I play download. Best means free on the apple APP store or Google play. That's friends without the are so best fiends F. I.. I E N D S. That's it do it also reinhart. You're going down Bro. I don't know he's A. He's like a dedicated Gamer. It's a little scary is pretty good doing a bunch of traveling once again brand die. Because I don't know I just our lives at at this point and we gotta talk about our favorite will travel to thrush NGOs toothbrush in general the quip toothbrush for real. I just I love so much as I'm packing my like massive toiletry bag because I have a problem and I take more products than close on trips like packing and I'm getting low on space and then the last thing I always add is my toothbrush. Thank God quip is so tiny compact sleek. It just fits right in even though my bag is almost full. It doesn't take up a lot of space but it's still an electric toothbrush. It is honestly the greatest invention ever so equipped makers of the electric toothbrush. Want you to know the one single single discovery that matters most for your dental care it simply this that if you have good habits you're good that means brushing two minutes twice a day and floss regularly no matter what brand you use. Quip makes it simple starting with electric toothbrush. refillable floss and anti-catholic toothpaste clips. Electric toothbrush comes with a built in. Timer and thirty second pulses to guide a full and even clean which is super important. I'm so add that. If I do try to time my teeth brushing I just lose track and then I probably don't brush as long as normal with quip. I don't have that problem because it does it for me. The Quip floss dispenser comes with premark. String ws just enough so that you get enough floss us but you're not wasting any honestly. They've thought of everything. Now join over three million healthy mouths and get quip today. Starting at twenty five bucks. which is it's crazy and if you've got to get quip dot com slash Y. F.? T. Right now. You'll get your first refill free. That's get quip dot com slash Y.. F. T. spelled spelled G. E. T. Q. U. IP dot com slash Y. F.. T. Quip the good habits company. Clean teeth do you ever use reminders on your phone now. No you don't feel like Hey Siri remind me to ousting right now. It's doing it right now. No no no no don't they don't. This is why I don't use. This are usually like a good bit right and I I use force to say like Hey Siri. He set a timer for ten minutes. Like when I'm cooking something while you're under utilizing her and I I think so. So how many so used a lot and I definitely do it when I'm drunk when I think I've got like good bits or a funny things and also to remind me like don't forget to do you know the cinema. Mr So sometimes. I wake up in the morning hung over and I'll look and I'll get a reminder for something and I'm like I don't know what I what that was you know like what was going through my mind and the one that I got the other day was remind me to do the Ham. Let remind me to fuck a ham. Like what is this he said. Don't forget to do the Ham and I was like I don't know what that means. And then I started thinking what fi died abruptly and tragically tragically and the cops found that reminder and the last thing that that I could have done was to make love to a ham sandwich or something I would definitely question it but also like maybe not. Yeah SORTA believable. Maybe yeah I don't know not. Yeah so it took me a while because I didn't fly for a very long time. I finally finished that book. I mentioned I'd started called every last live by Mary. macaca really really good. I enjoyed it. It's kind of similar to you. I I really enjoyed the book up until the very freaking end end like the whole book. I'm like I don't know what to believe. I don't know who's doing saying this. What's going on? I don't know which is so great and the very it was very anticlimactic. Like at the very end was kind of a letdown. Still worth the read because like for most of the book it was really good but like I just wanted a little bit better of an ending. Yeah what's it called again. It's called every last lie And I I already talked about it before but it. It's about a woman whose husband dies in a car accident like all the forensic say he was speeding. Didn't put on the brakes. Like maybe it was suicide but he has daughter in the car and so it was just like what he really tried to kill himself with his the eight year old daughter in the car. That's weird and then like there's all these like clues to to make the wife thing that somebody was like after him or random off the road and she's convinced and everyone thinks she's not nervous so you kind of go back and forth the whole time and a lot of the book is written from his perspective before the crash and you find out he was keeping a lot of things from Her so then you do suspect foul play like it was a good story I wanted. I wanted a better ending right into it Jodi music. I was so excited needed for Justin Bieber to put out a new song. Finally and it's just like it sounds cool and when you turn it on. You're like us is a jam. And then he started listening to lyrics. And you're like oh I don't know about this lyrically are saw about. It seems a little sexual towards Haley is sexual. I guess but not like they weren't like great eight. I don't know just seemed a little weird. It just wasn't great. It wasn't as I wasn't what I was expecting. Eggs expecting greatness from him having making us wait this long. What was the word last week that you are free to that? Were spelled one way and had two meanings. Close enclose L.. Yeah so someone Message does about another one. Okay what is it. I'm GONNA spell it and see which way you say it. I R. E. S. U. M. E. resume resume. Yeah that's annoying. That's a good one funny. That's a good one. That is a good one. My Buddy Daniel Ellsworth in Daniel's Great Lakes which we've played music from him before he has a new project called dark minds and I'm really a happy foreman proud of him because his new the new song everything is on the new apple commercial which bonkers by the way so I guess go listen now that but I'm really liking the other single a release called get up and I wanted to play like a little bit of that. Sounds call this dark mind dark minds as one word song called. Give up on Y.. F. T. V. Laugh this To the the bottom stealing and good workout song you know one of the yeah Come it gives you some inspiration so yeah anyways check it out dark minds. The everything song is the on the new apple commercial. But that's a song called get up there like lots of check it. Oh that's cool you know. I know we think it's funny to read people's negative reviews of on on itunes. But I I get I get so many. DMZ from listeners. That have nice things to say. I think we should start reading some every now and then discuss like I don't know it's it's it's just like really cool. I met a couple of Y of two tiers at New Year's Eve like Belgium and be like why did you hear about your show. I love getting the meet them in person and stuff and it's just really cool to think about like how many people actually listen to the podcast and I don't know it just makes really good like I like doing this podcast. I love hanging out with you every week. Can I love getting to just talk and share things but it makes it just means so much more when I guess just like this. Oh this one's from Lisa Thorn shout out to Lisa. I'm GonNa Right back also on instagram. But Monitor your message. Because I thought it was so sweet said Hi Brandy I never. DM people but wanted to thank you for bringing a smile to my face on a weekly basis. I love your podcast. Odd cast so much and it brings joy to my stressful day. I work as therapist for high risk teens. And it's so nice to look forward to laughing along with y'all after a hard day. Thank you guys for being genuine in an awesome. No not sweet. All that's no. I got one right here from Liley Liley subject line undamaged wells five stars dammit. Wells the frigging Turtleneck is really make a comeback. Great podcast wait. Who who did you pose John Krasinski wearing the title? I said it was Derek and like everyone was like your exact outfits. No hurry stories. You and everything was ever. That's Johnston skin. I'm like yeah I don't look at the joke. That's the JOE anyways. Hey by the way to. I used my new year. Same Me Post with wearing Sarah's face on my underwear and her chicken cutlets on my chest was funny or not. Yeah I commented and told you that at first glance it looks like you would shaved. I was like what is he doing ended. I looked at is zoomed and see but at first I was really concerned man. He got real drunk. So the family that were not pumped about that picture. And I'll really donald like I don't I really don't understand you know like first of all the fact that there's underwear we're of Sarala holding onto my Jong Hilarious to me sterckele anyway so I thought it was funny okay. Good thanks my family. Is We think things are funny though. Yeah that probably aren't too. Also you really know me like that's totally my personality to like. Do Weird Shit you know. Yeah absolutely how great was the first shop of you In my family portrait. So good so good so good. I'm sorry Billy Ray got kicked out but you know what them's the breaks no we. We actually kicked him out of those photos. He was never in them. I saw someone kill. You kicked out billy ray for wealth they we put you over him but that the end of the phone she. My mom was like all right. Now what some with just me and my kids. Yeah you're like Oh no daddy was like now. We're and then at the end we were like. Oh we actually like these. The best by the way I saw your dad posted a picture of his new demo out and it's like his demo recording soundboard. The near your mom's like you need to get an iphone because it's the greatest. No I go I don't understand fuses. Just someone buy it for him and do it he he what we he has one. He has an iphone and IPAD. He doesn't use and in like he still uses the blackberry. And somehow they I don't know if they like stocked up because they knew they would stop making them he has like backup blackberries because he knows he can't get one anymore like he is. He's committed he's insane he's got just in case blackberries yes blackberries. I fucked respect for that right there. I do Kinda Miss. B B M. I I loved I really did and the track ball is like a little kid. I had a real fancy white blackberry at. I mean I kind of do miss him. I know it's probably more shit for me to clean up at the point. Go clean up some diarrhea real quick. What is my life? You're like what's that movie. That's like where they Bai Xue. Yeah we bought it. It's called. We bought a zoo fucking super creative. Title Guys I've Accumulated Zoo. Yeah go go lay out some. Hey for your goats in your donkeys and pick up some diarrhea and would laugh. I actually do have to go down there and clean installs because it's raining and everyone's inside. Oh Man two thousand twenty shaping up Banger rural brand I why is it. Unlike online December thirty first were always like occupy. weeper next year is going to be still freakin great. And then like the first couple of days of the new year like same thing exactly same shit new decade. Yup that's true okay. Well Michelle Love You love. You love you guys they go okay okay. Okay give me then Ok woke me.

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Shakin' the Room

P.S.A Podcast

29:45 min | 9 months ago

Shakin' the Room

"Whoa the privacy sport. Podcasts walked a real life. It's clever narratives original and creative use of satire in order to raise the audience from negative paradigm put their own persons. Brought this is by no means to them or best is but instead encourages showcase the respect. It might not be before. Psa designed to showcase to listen to the power of the mind is not a joke and if a personal control your mind Ns bolt there will also meet control their luck. This podcast serves as entertainment. Educational purposes only not replaced or other types of professional hills audience. So you mean to tell me when I'm putting on the scene is like I'm drinking and driving. No do you know what they do to the sink. Do you imagine what it's doing to you but for the ones who really just not extra you feel that united step aside feeling go. Hey Log out you know. Go ahead log out from baby to pay so. I don't think he's GONNA shoot. Nobody wig off literally but you never know. I don't know how people shoot their remember that movie. We want to whatever skirving bullet so before we get started with today's episode. We have to give shot to a few of our sponsors shouted to the sponsors. Today's episode cannot be famous Dot Com our website. That will teach you the steps and give you the keys to become the biggest influence in your life to the next level. You'll become an online superstar without having to sell your or by fake followers and take your business are brand to a level that supersedes. You could have ever imagined start. Your Business at the website cannot be famous dot com all or case or hit of Country Cowboy instagram for more information. Go morning good evening. Good night good after morning. Point knows D is Why knows aries. Why no Tarez Siham Bilingual knob before real welcome back to PSA podcast pricey sport of attestations sees a four episodes wail? We own a row. Yeah we kickin they we going through you know Things are look brighter for our futures. As far as you know going outside you know and of course I posted on my paid. What was it the other day and I said for those yards saying if outside open back up tomorrow you're not going and then Osei will make sure you're not getting your haircut. Makes you not getting your nails done? Make sure not doing none of that because if you do. You're fraud to me because he sat up here and talked about how he was going to be on lockdown to August July June and nat starting. Do stuff a little earlier and now yeah when I guess I don't WanNa look like. Y'All was you know liars if I was you I would go back and delete them out care if they went viral. Because you know he was like some urologists so confident. We're going to be locked down. Obviously I might as well kiss goodbye and some are going to be scary. Stay inside You being scare is a bath will idiots because sometimes is not always a danger just because something is there but 'cause you should never live in fear you know and I understand. There's nothing you can just stop doing. But especially the way the news is doing. But it's not you know not feeling. I've been there before but at the same time. This is my thing on that. It is just my fate. You ain't gotta like desktop but if you say okay I'm not GonNa work because you have a compromised immune system or you know you. Just you know get sick easy or you witness. Somebody die because of Corona virus or struggle with it. That's perfectly fine. But those yahoo just going being scared off something news told you. I just feel like again that show business but don't try to make other people feel stupid because they finally be outside of doing stuff like if that's the case you'll need to be at the part that's the cash you need to be at the grocery store because my thing is people who then got corona virus from sitting in the house is the lady that put on twitter. She contracted the corona virus from literally going to the mailbox and she was in her house for three weeks. She says she gets at some point between she caught it and let nobody enhancing. Nobody still got it so I hate to save him. I sound insensitive. But if he's Matthew to catch corona you're just GONNA catch. I say out loud to start off the episode today because today's episode is titled Shaking The Room. And as we see that introduction definitely shook up some stuff I'm sure you've got your -tated through the air applies across the room. Turn it off. That's fine because I got the view for the day for yourself so sake that how about that okay. So the main reas- shake the room is not just. The song is a lifestyle inspiration. Comes from a tweet of mine who We had a good debate one day and she was just saying that this this is the day it was one of the days where we actually had a good debate and not an argument. You know if if just one fact. She's probably listening to this though to if you ever try to have a debate with me but I feel like you're being Pity or trying to basically say what I'm saying stupid in you know. I'm smart so I can kind of tell when you're doing like a sarcastic or shady way. I will shut down or we just started yelling Shutdown WHEREVER YOU WANT A DEBATE. We can have that. You know because I'm not talk to people I'm just I'm not gonNA listen. 'cause this is. I'm not go. You know this is. I don't have to deal with it. But so the tweet she said. And you know shake. The room was a part she said it will be me and I totally group. That animal KIP death. Obviously pop smoke. Song are piano. That was one of my favorite rappers and he's gone like that is greatly but pop smokes infamous song shake the room will Smith. We forgot about the first principle. Bel Air we forgot that he used to rap on a lot of people. Don't even know him as a raffle but he started off his that. He has a song called boom shake the room and then the shaking part of the day is titled Comes from the infamous scene on love and hip hop Atlanta with K. Michelle and Crawley reassured. The table out of anger and came ashore. Said all right so today story because I'm by myself is titled Extra Extra Read All about it. Valley was definitely one of a kind. She had a presence like no of. She had the power to control the atmosphere now. No she wasn't a witch but her presence was just that powerful. Her mother will always to that. She was a change agent and she could change room but what she did with. Their power was up to her nonetheless. Valley was very outgoing personality. Like Noah with that however came as negatives. Don't let her order be wrong at the restaurant a literally. The whole restaurant will feel Harare. Everybody even people that was just watching from the corner or don't even let her get some bad news public her whole facial expression with change body language. Just tell it all after. All Valley put the extra in extrovert and personality in personality disorder. Our short story kind of just a bio of anything else. The lessons from a story is just that you know extra people you know. We were just play but now the lesson is just that extra people you know really do have power and to take on the different things they say about people who are extroverts analogous stuff as we go along but you know extra people you know you'll love on my hate him and this case they had some of the best personalities but some people just don't be filling all that and that's okay also before I go on I would like to say. Have you feel like you know easy? I'm not extra well some Yahoos. Don't think extra extra but for the ones who really just not extra. You feel episode. I feel go hating log out. You know go ahead and log out from baby but now review filling in ICU. That's cool. This is more so kind of isolated episode. We use to try to bring light to of the people that are extra. Or Kinda Dina's over the top because the world tries to portray. This is a bad thing but I personally don't feel like it's bad thing. I don't like being an introverted. As a bad thing. You know you pick your poison. No the lesson from the story. I guess we could get is just that you know you can use their powerful GA bag. And I'm I like that you know. This is the first -ffected based show so is not always a good thing. Also the negatives to because it's good it's good a negative to pretty much everything I lessons from the day story so we moving into my favorite Q. Tna questions that need addressing question so why is it that we associate extra or shaking the room table with being annoying whale? Typically people don't be feeling like all that ligers keep a hundred. I have my moments of a lot of where I make sure I have my days on this kind of like looking and sometimes being realistic you. F- everybody extra person over the top person Room Shakur you ain't for everybody so everybody just don't WanNa do that. Sometimes people just want to chill you come during the most everybody on. That's all right. Are there more than one way to shake the room absolutely. The song showed two different ways to shake the room. That's the two different sides. I used as an example. And you know what I'm GonNa get into more of later. You don't have to be extra checker on his different ways to be extra not always just coming in there. Holland screaming at the top of your loan. You know no crazy stuff like that. The last question that needs addressing. What is the most extra APP right now? Well if you asked me which did but I'm telling you anyway. The most extra apt to me would definitely be tick tock. Listen I'm by SZIGETI TIC TACS? Y'All make these different songs. Your recycle the same moves. You know. It's like the video game where you have to buy more Lockable character. So they have some move how much it cost. 'cause I will pay the fee for y'all get some new moves because I am sick and tired of watching duties same moves over and over again and y'all be shaking the room on their literally because are coming their dance in savage in the one baby girl can be some dame on in the Lahar checking out the way. I'm tired of that one with the other way. Y'All do it's another one is a lot of them. But I'm tired of all right definitely during Corentin you know you get overload with him and sick of all right so now introduced something just for today's episode. you may or may not see later in something else hint. Hint Lincoln Wing but I wanna do the song comparison and I WanNa compare the lyrics to shake the room because they're both named shake the room but holiday shaken a Roman this Kinda. Give a glimpse of how you can check the room in different ways. So let's go over the lyrics and I'm GonNa give my take on. I started off with pop. Smoke shake the room so I decided to dissect a cables lines in the song so he said how about I shake the room shaky chop going sweep. The broom growl everybody running and ducking. I'm clean a room so we stopped right there. They say we'll probably pops moat so right there. That's telling me he got a gun. Okay he got the blinky okay. He got the tool he shooting the place. Look where he you know. He got it to scare people. You Know Me. So yes. That's what I get from that so far that he had a girlfriend. 'cause he growl and lets you know like. I don't Miss Me. I'll shoot you. You know that kind of thing shoot one time seeing double time like you on shrooms shoot shoot on the other. Line is facetime. Say on the news. Burt we bought to shoot in. This beep shake frosted flakes on the risk is the gang. Ain't plan Woo in New York. I gotTA shake in this black okay so now with that said that unpack that. He's saying that he shoots one time. And it's like you seeing like double you know like you own shrooms because I guess you got shots not year you seeing stars and then he says he's saying that he getting news from his homeboy on. Facetime that you know. Hey we bought two areas Out and he's. He Got Frost the flag on his wrist so he got a nice watch on. So that's probably his shooting hand so as long. Okay I got this Nice. Watch on my shooting hand. And he's saying that he New York so he magnetically New York. Day shaking it up you know. Shake it up like the show and then he saying him in his squad. Aimed plane outright. Let's go for Peo- back to pay back money. Move Compensate. Put him up on a plate. Put him up baby shaking in a way. She shaken hit the flashlight senior face flares and she looking like a snack. Cute Birkin bag on away. Woo Okay so now the end of that segment. He saying that you know he if he shoots you he pill you back blue you remember that saying you know his appeal to pay so. I don't think he's GONNA shoot. Nobody wig off literally. But you never know. I don't know how people shoot this there. Remember that we want to whatever skirving a bullet so you know what kind of shoe excuse he got. Essays put him on a place like Egypt for breakfast. Lunch dinner snack. Whatever Danny says the girl the girl is not shaking? So now he asked. The club are guessing went from the shootout to the club. You know. I guess he teleported because I was a quick turnaround. And he's saying she shaking in a waste so he see her moving. I'll hit the flashlights. The FAA so light. Come on and he said Oh she q. And he by her burqas basically saying he went from shooting somebody now in the club and let's finish up the club as I do that too and he said Gershon dancing she got going on. He likes off turn on the flash accused about her bag so basically saying he gonNA TAKE. He likes going to buy back all right. So That's pop smokes. Shake the room now. Let's look at boom shake the room by will Smith in DJ jazzy? Jeff so says Yo backup. Now give brother room the fuses lit. And I'm about to go boom mercy mercy me. My life is a cage but on stage. I'm free hyped up. Sancta ready for wildland standing across girls like an island. Alright so at this point the first line come out the gate he saying. Give me room so he he bought Powell. You know what I'm saying. He he go his prime. You know he saying fuses live. I'm about to go boom. That's about to blow up. He said have mercy on me. He said when he on stage you feel the most free and you know he he basically describing her arap wrapping he stay got the girls around him and he he power not giving him any you know then it says. I see the one I wanNA sic come here cutie flip them around and I work that booty. Aw work their body worked the body slowdown girl. You hurt somebody all unless this get one thing clear. There's only one reason why I came here so now you can take a few things from that. You could type. He sent him home. He could just be saying. No one will Smith. He was a good clean rapper so he probably saying. I just came here to dance. You know everything from players. Cau by just came to dance. This you know seems good. Clean Rapper so he came to dance a cute girl from across the way she might be on the stage. You know she might be at the bottoms. Might be backstage already. You know you know. That's not my business but you know is Kinda got their thing going on. So but he's shaking the room by his presence in by his dancing in his you know his image so if we compare contrast the two songs so they all shaking the room in some way one of them is shooting the place up. The other one is just dancing being on stage. Having a good time we both competitive both rap was you know clearly They both got some sick wordplay. You know a bit. You know kind of Lot Lot of metaphors going on a lot of you know you can kinda picture everything they saying you know. I saw music video for both of them just from reading the line so they did pretty good with. The imagery is differently there So they definitely took over. You know they took over by. Shoot the place love. So they definitely got the attention wills midgets that his personality is doing it for him so he good with that and if you contrast you know we see the differences between net so all right. That was pretty good. I like that okay now. I'm not telling you go places in early amount but I am encouraging you to whomever you are you know. Be the dominant one in the room. If that's your person out you know go into the room command attention you know but I will say. Don't try too hard so I went ahead and defined extra. It says that this is more than its do additional then I went to the urban dictionary version. It says excessive dramatic way too much now. I noticed the difference. You know that between the two one of his making it more so that okay you just a little more than extra but you know you a little more than normal. But it's not saying like a bad thing but urban dictionary mason same logic says like the most the worst thing you could be so typically when we think of extra. We think of one type of person who think of extrovert you know. Because there's a name for literally everything but you know there's a difference between extroverts ending the opposite polar opposite will just introvert S. according to difference between DOT COM is extroverts. introverts two opposite personality types is as extroverts are social butterflies. Jurors likes to be alone and find their energy sapping when in the company of others. So they don't like being around people on social batteries. Drain is as introverts enjoy social events at parties. In fact the image is being in the company of others edge. Verbs are found the white population than introverted and they are supposed to be normal. That's different as far as we know. More controversy often misunderstood so looking at that. I personally think that you know we went back to the songs we definitely can set it. Will Smith is extrovert. But if we will look back at Quail. We wouldn't be able to tell if they introverts extroverts because you know they come in places shooting up places so maybe it's too many people. Okay everybody got that. I'm maybe I'll eight here too many people in yourself in shoot the place up. Maybe that's what they think it. I don't know I didn't write. The song is is my take on it but I definitely noticed. People can be both me. For example I definitely am observer but only child so I grew up by myself so like I have some introvert. Tendencies like after a while. Okay some people miles I gotta go. Our allies need for a few hours later. I always come back home by myself by myself. This point like I stayed until I find a girl get married to. I'm not living with nobody else. This is not happening. So yeah snapping. Now let's break it down you know. I like to unpack stuff so the base word of extrovert is extra. Extra verse are center of Attention. A naturally are you know people tend to license these people and that's kind of this episode is to kind of go back against y'all don't have them. Nate likes You know depressed because of that. They tried to like dim. They sell down because of all. I'm too much people don't like that if they don't like you then forget them because you shouldn't have to stop being who you are far as being extra over the top because over the topic it can definitely be calm down. I'm not saying you should everywhere you go. You see doing like you know actor well like a camera zone but like some people are just naturally loud. You know some people are just naturally just have a lot of energy in life to talk in a very friendly people you'd like to use it as a diss you friendly friendly now if they're trying to say like you a whole different but like if you say you friendly 'cause friendly you know that's a little different too and of course if you frontally everybody Natura France. Oh but I'm a firm believer you can be friendly and nothing everybody's offering but we'll be here all day if I go into that so you know some people just have the natural big energy big vibe and I just feel as though you know take advantage of it because it really is blessed according to feel guy to drama kings and Queens psychology dot com. It says drama kings coins Enlighten Dole parties in crack jokes. During staff meetings they added Slash colored black and white scene but the indictable hunger floor. Attention can look a lot like arrested development. If they don't keep in check with their need for June rush captive audience they risk a lot rarely respected eventually resented for their selfishness and the chaos that can create. So you know. They can't be a list selfish. You know I feel like there's good selfish ambassadors to because some people make selfish synonymous with like you just evil person and that's people problem. Y'All know how to be self sometimes. You wonder why you haven't mental breakdowns. Or you don't ever have nothing for yourself or you know you get upset when people don't check on you but you need to put yourself first that he wouldn't be in a situation sometimes of course it's always Like need to do that all the time. But we're GONNA do episode selfishness too. So yeah I watched that. I had episode where I came in with two episodes boom. It says that do neglectful adults SPA. Little Dean's see you probably think. What does that mean is there is evidence their parents who are to atone to their own emotions and not enough to their kids to produce children. Who are insecurity. Attach Western says as these kids will understandably make noise flailed around to get others. Focus on them in their knees fearing that is the only way that they'll be taken care of all this drama kings and Queens have borderline personality. Disorders are right so unpack that a basically saying that kids who didn't have you know their parents get attention you know. They tend to be over the top extra so parents. If you've got some kids you know if you listen to these people who'd being parents now if you don't want to try to be over the top of extra world now that's not true. Some people just going to be like that anyway. 'cause sometimes you look at what you see. Sometimes both parents might be extra but give a child. Attention love they might not be over the top but again over. This is not a bad thing but it can be. That's how I look at it so now so if we go into detail these come from me. So what are some examples that I feel are shaken a room so is a lot of places that could you know you could do this at and it's a lot of different scenarios but only got a few because of time so the first one is coming in places dressed to kill. I know people are introverts. They are very quiet reserved but they shake through it could because they'd be flat you know and that's cool too. You know being loud obnoxious. Obviously you know having fun personality firmly because you can be extrovert. Still not necessarily be loud. I definitely think that's possible but some people don't like people that go around talking everybody. I don't know why they bothers people but they do put on the scene because something didn't go your way that happens Been there Having the best dance moves in the place of Will Smith made it clear La. He finished the room he gonNa Dance. He came dance game bardy and that's what he did. And obviously you know facial expressions and body language. Those are great examples of. I feel like an extrovert. You know because we tend to overlook that one but it's definitely one in the last one shooting the place up. I mean it's true. I feel like an introvert or really even just really up somebody who got problems. But you know it's a little over the top so as I said earlier with the same statistics. Coming from the other article are any negative being extra. Let's see if connor hectic scenes can make you feel alive because simultaneously be taken a toll on your health. You're entertaining fits our experienced episodes of accused dressed to the body. They leave your washing chemicals such as adrenaline cortisol which speed up heart rate and suspend digestion is. You're pulling your stunts. All the time says Ellen McGraw a clinical psychologist Life Culture New York. It's like having a wave of drain. O go through your body so you mean to tell me when I put on the scene. It's like I'm drinking and driving. Do you know the due to the sync. Imagine what it's doing to you. Kim As high drama triggers fighter flight reaction another people and it says that this that the drama queen or King's audience members syndicate route themselves. So they shut down completely. It said a nice discharge a lot of feelings and dump them on somebody else. You might feel better temporarily outbursts believing everyone else off kilter ineffective way to get your knees. Mitt is says that these strong most can be gripping but also whereas down and then they made the comparison to like the boy that crowd wolf. Ain't that crazy. Basically you know what I really liked about. That was when it says that we put all our Muslim other people and you definitely feel. The introverts do that too but sometimes not always but they can't after having a breakdown but extroverts tend to do a more often like he's just like just I'm packages load everything. Everybody in a crying and screaming oranges yelling on. Maybe just going on. 'cause sometimes now is crying screaming enduring the most Influence up at the mouth in having a seizure throwing up. It's not always bed sometimes. It's just you know I'm packing a lot on the person they just looking at you. Like dispersed which you know not ago so now I got some typical scenario. My college students as far as being a person that shakes the room. First of all be prepared to be disliked again like I said I know I am personally. I know how if people waiting for everybody. That's Okay L. Bob me comfortable with that. You know you might have the best dance deals at the function. You Know Day by their. You know people that are extra definitely be prepared for them to run for a position at your school winner. Typically GonNA use the phrase. I am vying for the position of whatever of Ishii. Upc WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA use that term buying. They have extra vocabulary. You know tin use words incorrectly or you know unnecessarily like ti or some other people Expeditiously great pockets though like a great person You know and then you know. Use Your power for good. That's not even Addison's as everybody will now let me get back to the vocabulary real quick because I know some people that use words than you probably listen to. This expeditiously you know is not a plane. But it's something else you know who you are but yeah so using words improperly in our just you know you need you need stop but there's a lot of people that do this super grown people that do that to his look like they just read definition and I said I'll use this today and I'll be like what but again use powerful good you have our you have responsibility. No you're not spiderman but people that are experts in these great personalities. You can bring somebody day. You could really bring them up having a bad time. People tell me I was having a bad day but I say you'll post the I say do this. So you know you can do that or you can ruin a day coming across the scene and just kill it. Nobody's allowed her nine. Suck the energy out the room or you know somebody WanNa do some say for instance. Your friends want to go somewhere. And you don't WanNa go and you don't want to say you want to just sit in Romans. Just suck the energy out of the room like the New York Maine like that. That's the birds. That's an example of using your pile negatively. So try not to do that. Our I ended up with the question of China's this week. I want you to identify one which you shake. The room would like to shake the room. Rose simple and everybody can do so. Let me know what you're thinking? Of course I'll be posting. Thank you for tuning in another great episode. Yawkey must've going up low ya signing out always keep it hid necker we walk. Make your mind Wjr

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028: She Believes with Debbie Lindell | The Living Room

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

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028: She Believes with Debbie Lindell | The Living Room

"Tools for living room to grow a space of grace to become everything. God wants us to be. You're listening to the Living Room. Podcast with Joanna. Weaver episode twenty-eight well the Pastor's wife called fulltime ministry. I love hearing from women who lead well especially women who have that very special relationship with God you know the ones I mean the ones that you can literally sense. This girl walks with. Jesus Will Win I. I met Debbie Lyndale. I knew she was someone special. And in today's episode she shares the journey. God has taken her on both personally as well as in ministry from an insecure twenty year olds who preferred serving in the shadows to a mega church pastors wives to a woman willing to step into a calling for which she felt ill equipped. I know you're GonNa love our conversation because you guys were all call to be minister. All we have to do is be available to God willing to step forward rather than shrink back. Well I am so honored to have my dear dear friend. Debbie Lynn Del with me today. Debbie thanks for sticking with me girl when cat nephew issues recording this episode. Oh my goodness God must want to do something through this next forty five minutes or so or he's got a big plan for our conversation. I love bugs. Sure you know I'm trying to learn how to do that. How to receive those delays in those interruptions as coming from him rather than resenting them all the time and just trusting that he's up to something that I don't know yet. We don't like hiccups. We like things to go smoothly. And don't you think so I? That's always probably been one of my biggest battles is. I think I've always thought that God's will should be easy. How has it been in your life? Well I think sometimes I want God's will to be my will I think the biggest problem for me? Just learning to distrust him you know. The the beauty of walking with him and completely surrendering to him is that we can no he is or deigning and ordering every step as proverbs says the Senate righteous are ordered of him and so we can be confident that when we do face a situation that just as unexpected or a delay or oh man just something. That isn't going quite like we had hoped We can entrust that to him and know that he's GonNa work it out for good yeah So I've I've experienced a lot of delays in my life. We were talking about that off line. Just you know we both have written books and it seems like often when you're trying striving to do something that God's called you to do that whether you know we talked about is it the enemy or is it. God you know using a delay for his purpose. I think it's both I think the enemy hates. When we're striving to do the will of God anytime we set our our heart and mind on doing God's will. The enemy is at work to thwart the plan of God. I mean you can see that throughout scripture and if you've walked with God at all those that are listening you know that to be true. The enemy hates when we're choosing to honor God with our lives and to do his will and so I think it's and and both ends both and and there's a spiritual battle in the unseen world you know and it's so today we you and I both believe that God wants to use this for his glory and so we're excited to see what he's GonNa do exactly. This is our third podcasts platform. We've attempted to reward after losing a whole interview yesterday so girls. You're in for a treat and I think I how how appropriate because we're GONNA be talking about your book. She believes able leaves. And Oh my goodness I love this book. This is the book that actually I I met you and you're just starting to work on it. And what a journey You know just all throughout I love. Just how very honest in open you are and yet constantly constantly pointing us to the one who's bigger than we are the one who's more capable than we are in the one who wants to empower as can you just Can you just share a little bit of your story? That brought you to she believes. Oh my goodness a journey. Honestly where to begin? I I am constantly Growing in my understanding of God's left for me and Grayson his design purpose for for me. How he intentionally created me on purpose for a purpose and walking by faith in that and so the journey continues yes But I was raised in a Christian home I was actually raised in a pastor's home and My Mom and Dad pastored several churches small churches but they love Jesus with all their heart and taught me to love God and to honestly they taught me to live by faith But as well I had to embrace that faith for myself as we all have young and I think she believes it's kind of a just a representation of every girl's journey And every girl have God's desire for every girl to totally and completely understand his love for them and to to live in In a place where they they not only Have memorized GaAs word which I have his word sitting in my lap today. They have not only been taught the truth of God's word but they've completely embrace it for themselves is so that's so big because I know for myself I had the head knowledge. But you get it from my head to my heart and you talk really honestly about even though you felt called to ministry you and your husband John Pastor and incredible church called James River in Missouri. And just the journey you kind of just share parts of the pieces. You felt called to ministry and yet you. You were really intimidated. My goodness yes. and you know that our Our history can affect our Our confidence you know in things that happened in our lives we can focus on what people say about us or our experiences and we can forget that the truth of God. God's word overrides any experience or anything that has been set over us but when we first went into ministry John and I were just twenty years old. We were married when we were nineteen. We were high school sweethearts and then John John was saved when he was sixteen so he didn't have a background of understanding the church world or pastoring where I was raised in in church and in a pastor's home but walk through some some difficult experiences with my parents And so that kind of created insecurity in me with regards to going into ministry and we Had our first interview for our first position when we were twenty years old. We had only been married. I think we'd been married six months and We were interviewing for a youth pastor position and we. The pastor asked us to meet him. That was any doing us. The lead pastor of the Church that we were handed a minister Pardon me the pastor that we were interviewing with for the youth pastor position we met at a restaurant in town and I remember getting ready for that interview I was so so nervous and I think I changed clothes like four or five times. I wanted to dress the part I wanted to look the part and I. I remember thinking if I'm just if I don't say anything if I'm quiet hopeful. He won't realize that I might be a handicap. You know to to John and to what God was calling John to do and and so I went in to that interview. Just like okay. Just keep your mouth. Shut Debbie. It was easy to do because the pastor pretty much focused all of his attention on John in for for the hour long interview. He really never looked at me or he didn't ask me any questions and I was like thrilled with that. I thought this is awesome. So got done with the interview and he said asking John. The questions he said. Chun Oh my goodness. I'm so impressed with you. You you're you're very articulate and I'm just you now. I just see God's hand on you and I think you'd be a great fit for this position that we need filled and said I just gotTa say on a scale of one to ten. I would rate you as a ten year incredible and I was like yes. Oh my goodness how incredible my husband is. And I'm just so proud of him and and Y- Yes. I agree one hundred percent with what you're saying. Well then He. He turned and looked at me. The pastor did for the first time in the interview really focused on me and he said but I've gotTa say if I was GONNA rate your wife he said I on the same scale. I would raider at a four. Oh Wow and I was like man. How does he know? I haven't even said anything and he can already tell that. I am inadequate that I don't really have all that. It will take to be effective in ministry and he just in those few words confirmed what I believed. Wow It'd be true about myself so All that to say. Is You know the enemy wants us to doubt God's truth about who we are he. He will do whatever he can. I two that was that pastors opinion and it came out of whatever he was taught and what had been spoken over him or I don't know his history but he obviously struggled to honor women and to believe In into to encourage right right I think I think a lot of times. Especially in that era. There was that pastor's wife Persona little cookie cutter back saying and you played the piano and you did this. You did that and if you didn't fit in then then maybe it was hindering. Yes it was going to be a head. Threats are you would not be effective in in whatever role that they felt like you should. You should fill all that say. We ended up taking that position. If you can believe it I remember when he when that Pastor said those words. John Patted my knee and Under the table and I knew what he was saying he was saying. Debbie don't don't you don't I don't believe what he's saying is true and we went home that night and prayed about it and felt like God was leading us to the. This man was not a bad person. Yeah Yeah And God we took the position we served under him. It was difficult but this he this pastor loved God yeah he wanted to honor God with his life and God wanted to use him to teach US things That we would take into ministry key taught us things that he didn't that we knew we did want to be if that makes sense. Yeah and and so I'm thankful for those that year and a half two years that we were under his leadership and also God began to use that season to cause me to Evaluate his truth about me Because I had to come to a place where I believe the word of God what anyone would say over me or speak over me or or my past the things that I've experienced that had created insecurity in my spirit. And you you know we can. I knew scripture Joanna. I knew psalms one thirty nine by heart. My parents read truth over us over their children and spoke truth arres but honestly until we believe that truth for ourselves we can have it hanging on the wall. We can have it memorized but until we believe it. It's not gonNA radically affect our thinking. And and so you know she believes shares a lot of that journey And really I did not. I started to understand that I was thinking wrongly about myself Through those first few years of ministry but it took years and years before I fully embrace the truth of God's word for myself and said Okay God I believe you have Perfectly an intentionally created me for the purposes that you are calling me too and that with with you in me I can do all things that you've called me too and And do them effectively through your power. That is were at work in me and once I honestly chose to believe that for myself. That's when I saw God opened doors That I would have never imagined would have opened. I love it's so ministry so one of the things that I I see I see it in my own life to is the things that I've struggled with what I think are liabilities. I think are going to keep me from being effective are actually the places that God uses most and I see that in you. Debbie like you know that girl. You see that girl who's struggling. You know her girl who feels inadequate you see that girl who who just wants to kind of be invisible and you know how to dry out and I was just thinking last night of pre God. Please let your view I. I was thinking first of all for those of you. Who are listening you know. Her story is really beautiful. They went on to to to pastor at different situations planted a church. It didn't really go very well. Not Springfield and then began to fulfil just this as. Tory. Now have over. Twelve thousand people worshiping on a Sunday morning. Multiple Campuses You have a prayer meeting. That has five to six thousand yet. The thing I love about you. Debbie is you are still you are still that girl with heart wide open and you are that girl who. I honestly think I think you the heart behind James River Bash. Because I walk into this Mega Church and I feel the love that and I think far from being a liability girl. You're not just a Tan. You're like you're like nineteen point nine nine amazing gift to the body of Christ. But you look back and you think how you could have left that insecurity. You could let what you thought about you. Define you with. That man confirmed about you. You can just stayed in that role but instead you you said Lord I wanNA think differently What would you say to that woman? Who's going wow I I feel so inadequate I was telling you yesterday that in so many ways though I come from a different. I'm not the shy girl. I'm the too loud grab that intimidation my own. Cash that constantly Assane Joanna you need to tone it down. You are way too much My own fear that That my motives are not pure and I know myself so well that I can actually get paralyzed by myself. Awareness in Ghazvin do not seem thing he's been seeing Joanna. Will you believe what I say? Yeah above what thirteen? How do we get our? How do we get there? Well you know the enemy comes to steal kill in destroy and he is constantly wanting to stop us all from just you know walking in victory in living out the call of God for our life. Whatever that looks for looks like an any girl's life some whatever guys called you to. It looks different then Joanna and me but the enemy hates it he hates to CS flourishing and he wants all of us to be hiding hiding and and To to honestly keep us keep a secluded and feeling ineffective and insecure. I mean that that is his oh he can do that. He has one and over the course of Minnesota the course of my life but if we just look at even just James River when we came to James River John and I were we were I would say. We were broken leaders We were we were. We felt very in inadequate for the task of pastoring. We had pastored for two and a half years pioneer church in Kansas City. That was extremely difficult and Just we we tried so hard. We made nineteen thousand phone calls. We knocked on. I think we knocked on about five thousand doors and we had we had to a two three and four year old during that time When we went we took we started the church and we knew no one in Kansas City area. And I I give that backdrop just so girls listening will understand what we're experiencing now. It supernatural. Yeah but at the same time it we had to choose to have faith even through the difficult seasons and times in our life and in the journey so just because I say man you need to believe God's word and if you believe God's word for yourself and the truth about what he says about you then it's all going to be like. Oh this is sunshine resident. You know we have to keep trusting. Even in the difficult seasons is so We ended up Leaving that her Feeling God calling us away from that Church that we launched in Kansas City which was really difficult because once we said God were done which was about a year and a half in. We only had thirteen people in five of them. Were Lindell's so that we had eight people after a year and a half On a Sunday morning. And so you I mean that's not very many people sitting in a gymnasium of a brand new school so it looked pretty empty. Every week was very difficult once we said. No that's when the church started growing and once we said we're done the church started growing and by the time we left that to come to that church to come to James River. There was a hundred people had that church in God had sent another pastor to take the church which we were. We were so grateful so when we looked if we looked at that season through human eyes we felt like we failed. You know but but then we now looking back at it like God was teaching us reliance on him because I can honestly say when we went into it. We thought if we check all the right boxes if we you know set up the chairs perfectly if we if we we have good worship and whatever and good preaching then people are GonNa come and God was teaching us. He's the one that builds the church and I in a way. We're getting on a side note here but somebody must need to hear this. You know it is God working in and through us but we as well have to learn to keep our hands open. Guide she now. It's it's you working through us as if we rely only on ourselves. Were not going to see the supernatural power. God made manifest in through our lives. So it's and both it's US believing God can use us in his S. trusting completely in his power to flow through a US but getting back to James River when we came to James River. Then we we felt so weak so broken and the Church. Leave there were. There were only eighty people in the church and when they interviewed us for taking the lead pastor of the Church. We were just like. We don't have much to take. Yeah we're we're worn out. Were we feel week? We feel like we failed and it you know. It's such a beautiful contrast that other interview but they were like you know we believe God uses wake people and we believe you are called to lead and we we WANNA we want you to come and we believe you will come. God's going to work through you and worked through your experience of the past to to bring about his will and built his church here and so on that alone. I mean seriously. We didn't feel like we had anything to offer. But we came on a on their encouragement. Yeah so much you know I. I think if we can embrace the story God has for us. I feel that often I know for me. I entered ministry. I was called to be a pastor's wife just thought God was going to do amazing things through us that it was going to be glorious and to be honest we haven't had that using growth but my husband is always just kept reminding. Joe At join. Our job isn't to be successful as to be faith a so true and you know. He's the one that built the church. James River is no better than any other church. Yeah it he has sovereignly. Chosen that here in this particular community. He wanted this. He wanted to reveal his grayson in a different way. You know because number. He loves numbers because in the word of God. He talks about numbers a lot. So numbers are important to him and every person is important to him every single person so numbers matter in that they represent people but he I mean I love how Gods Church churches represent to me. I've you kids. They all have a different personality. And they all represent him in different ways Into every leader out there. That's trying so hard to be faithful. God is using you and you can't evaluate it off of just what you see because I look back at that time in Kansas City. And I'm like God was he. Was that churches now. A active and involved in in doing great things for him there. He used us to lay the foundation in laying. The foundation was a hard art but we came in going to James River going. Okay God will here we are? We are much. We don't have much to give but God we give what we have and we just ask that you would touch it in supernatural blessed and in. He did things we never imagined he could ever do. And he he led me to places. I never imagined I would go which you know you knew that your life too. I win in going. Don't I don't WANNA lead? I don't want have anything to do with leadership I John. I'll do whatever you need to do behind the scenes but don't give me a microphone and don't be in front of people and and so I for those first several years I just I honestly I hid you know and I. I love serving so I. I was enjoying serving. I served wherever I found a need and but I knew deep in my spirit God was calling me to to more But he had to change. Change ME I. I love this part of your story because you really did not want to step into what God was asking you to do. But I've had first hand experience of what God is done through just that willingness to obey. Can you tell Ya that well Yeah I guess I would say I went kicking and screaming For the first WHO Gracious. Probably twelve years We had what we called women's ministries and It it was effective in that the women in the church. Were you know lead and Bible? Study taught to study God's Word and prayer groups and I mean it was beautiful. It was it was very it was very it. Was the girl of the Church meeting together. Which is powerful in important. But we weren't. We weren't seeing it very effective in reaching out beyond the four walls of the church. Does that make sense? Yeah Yeah and and so I. I say this carefully that I was I was somewhat bored with it and I. I did not blend. I didn't love women's ministry. I love IT I. I went because that was what you were supposed to do. If you were a good pastor's wife you were a part of it and you needed to be there and present and you know Joanna during all this these years of ministry where administered an with in that paradigm. I I was God was teaching me To believe that he could use me. You know and so that that's a backdrop for what I'm saying this story I'm telling but anyway my mom led the last six years of the women's ministries before. It took over. She was leading it and she was so effective impresses that she was diagnosed with breast cancer and had to step down. And I I remember being like Oh God what are you GonNa do? You'RE GONNA End John. Coming to me. My husband had saying Debbie. You've got to find somebody fast. The church was about renting about two thousand. So you know there was quite a few women in the church and he said you know you need to have you need to find out who God wants to lead this quick and I was like okay. Yeah I do and so. I just was praying. Oh God you need to find somebody Xiaomi who she is quick and and you know not at all thinking it would be me and actually I would say I put blinders on because it was like. I put a sleep mask on my face because I did not want to see where I didn't want to see what I knew. He was saying. I mean honestly I could sense it in my spirit but I was ignoring it and I was ignoring it really well. Yeah And so I found this girl to that. I felt like Oh. She'll be amazing she she was. She was just incredible. She was an author herself when she was in the church and she loved whims ministries. And so I asked her and she said sure I'll take it and she wrote up a plan for a year and I was like Wow Hallelujah. This is amazing God. You're so good. The day. After she accepted the position her mom died in her sleep in. She called me the next morning. Her mom was incredible lady and she called her name her. The girl's name was Pam. She called me. She said Debbie. I just have to tell you I'm going to have to To to not take the position because my mom passed away in the night and and I'm just letting you know that. And she said I'm so sorry and and We prayed together was beautiful time but I got off the phone and you know. I'm just being honest here. I was like God. What are you doing you know? I'm now what you know. And so I went back to prayer and long story short. I took a day in a hotel room and I was just like Lord. I need you to show me what to do. An eight hours on the bed in this hotel room which Kirsi purpose just to be with God because I needed his hell I needed. His help is a leader. I need help to look differently at my situation. I needed to look at it by faith in in. Not In my own Thinking I needed look at it through. His is eight hours in God radically and I can say radically changed my heart and it was like a light bulb went off in my mind and my thinking and my spirit and he called me and what he was calling me and I was running and once I said yes it was like my whole heart change. It was like I was completely different person. Why could not wait to to tell John? John God's changed me I am the one he's calling. I am the one he's saying. Debbie lead and I will give you the everything you need to to accomplish my well. I went from wanting to run from leading women to being so excited. I could not wait to see what he was gonNA do. Yeah but it took me. It took me being obedient. It took me saying yes it took. It took me intentionally spending time with him. He man for him to change my heart And for me too. It just embraced the truth. What he says about all of us that he has designed us to be enough HERP ASLI created us for what he has called us to do and given us everything we need to accomplish. His will And so that was that was the beginning and I can't say well it's been all amazing. It's been hard sometimes hard days and there's been days when I still feel like. Oh what am I doing it so far beyond me and I'm in from that point on the Church's grown in there's moments where like it's outgrown my ability and then God says now it hasn't outgrown mine I loved that hasn't outgrown mindset. Just keep looking to me. Keep spending time with me and I'll keep providing everything you need I think this is so important. Debbie because we always are looking at at what we're able to do in this situation and we miss out on the miraculous and I just WanNa just camp here a little bit because I feel like there's some girls out there that have just been kind of trying to be invisible to God and God's talk and jammies and it may not be big things. Girls may be little steps of obedience and you're I can't get my head around it and I just would encourage. I think this is an important point. Get alone with Jesus boy. He talked about because we we need to. There have been so many moments pivotal moments. I can go back to that. I had to be face down on the rug. I had to get along with Jesus. I had to find out what he thought and what he wanted because he really is. I need you here. This girl's God specializes in changing our hearts. Yes to that woman out there that struggling in her marriage she doesn't love that man anymore. Get alone with Jesus lead in your heart that woman who who has stepped out in bathe and failed and felt like I am never going to believe or trust guide for anything again. I'm just GONNA to hold on until Jesus comes get alone with. Jesus yes leaded fuel your heart. Let Him heal your heart beautiful. Yes yes I can I can say I. There's no I don't think there's any battle or any difficulty that cannot at least You can see attorney when you take when you take time away just to in Gaza. I think about when the kids were thirty months apart. We had three kids within thirty months. Thirty one and and you know that. Get along with God Statement when you're a young mom little ones at home. You're like how in the World Am. I GonNa do that you know. I think if you're intentional and looking at how you spend your time you can you can carve out five minutes you can carve out ten minutes. We can all do that in in maybe today. Somebody listening right now. You're you're in a very difficult circumstance or you're you're struggling with emotion maybe you're even struggling with like desiring to just end it. All I I have had those moments where the enemy is. Put those thoughts nine and I'm telling you if you go get your Bible. Go in the bathroom. If you have to shut the door in open the scriptures open scripture up and if you have to open it to one thirty nine that the Psalm one thirty nine and remind yourself maybe you know those versus but remind yourself that God made you he or danger days and he has a plan for you and he wants to work even through these difficult days. Yes challenging days. And and you're right Joanna there the presence of God he's in it's it's so amazing what it will do sometimes even even now. There's days in our marriage. John my marriage where it's just like this is so hard. Diablo stays up. There are a few and and you know it you know. Thankfully they're few and far between but there. There are moments where the enemy wants to put his foot in the crack in the door. And just do you know. Get his get us thinking in ways. We shouldn't think you know. Towards our mate towards our marriage stores children towards towards ministry towards towards towards maybe even the position at work that he's called you to whatever it is he. He loves us to have wrong thinking. And and so I'll just get in the car and go for a drive turn worship music on and I'll find a parking lot somewhere that's secluded. There's a there's a little church that is about. Oh two miles from where we live. And I'll drive. I've driven over there a couple times over the years and got my Bible out and put worship music on and just God I need to be in your presence right now. I need you to rewrite my thinking. Pour into me. Your will your thoughts and it's amazing to me how five ten minutes in his presence intentionally turning off my cell phone just focusing on him and leading the Holy Spirit Speak Poor. His grace and love is his truth over. Me Can can change a circumstance. It happens by changing me. It starts with me exactly and I think we're like yeah. I don't have time but I think if we would realize okay. Take the time that you're GONNA be miserable and in turmoil now sat in prayer put gas. Put that impair. Because I just don't think we understand for privilege. We been given to come bold guests to the throne of grace and find help in our time of need. Ichiro it's not about self help it's about ourselves and I think for me like looking beyond what's going on and praying what you were talking about. Lord Change Me Wire My s. Because I get so fixated on everything. That's going wrong that I missed that. God might be stirring up something that he wants to do in me so good and it's not like when you come out of that time with God that the situation around us zapped mysteriously just goes away. Now it's your heart is changed and you have this confidence. That God's GonNa Help You. He's going to give you the words to say your husband or or you know just creative ways of of Influencing situation but here's the deal God wants us to rely on him burst Amien and often like you say we want to go to our our ability the ability within ourselves to right a situation and he's like no. I want you to come to me because I have I have. I have something I want to show you that. I WANNA reveal to you You know there's a verse in Stephania. One Dixit John and I were talking about a couple mornings ago and and That book is very interesting. It's a prophetic. It's a prophet definitely was a prophet God is speaking about his people and he says he was angry with him them. He says they no longer asking for my guidance. Or seeking my blessing God long for his children to look to him I e men and he never fails to respond ever when we looked at him. It'd be it may not happen overnight. But the wonderful thing is is when we commit our way to him like Psalm. Thirty seven says when we literally roll our care over and we're sometimes sometimes I feel like the Lord is like I got my hands on his situation and it's almost like get this picture of my mind of this surgical place you know and all of a sudden what really needs to happen. Is they need to Zap the guy. The Dead Guy. I feel like God's like clear like get your off Joanna. Yeah to resuscitate old something that first of all maybe just needs to die number one or you're trying to breathe life into something that only I can breathe life and my time in my way and if you will get out of my way to and you're GonNa see me an and so for me like being able to commit that to the Lord and then when my flesh wants to pick it back up again to clear clear get my hands off. I this just segues beautifully into your new book. She prays a thirty one day journey to competent conversations. Because I would venture to say that. There's some girls out there. Even girls who have been Christians their whole life that would say I like what you're talking about that I I don't think I have that kind of intimacy with the Lord or or maybe they're even like me and they would say. Yeah I love the Lord and I feel his presence in but I'm not a very good prayer. I had this idea of what a good prayer warrior was and I didn't fit that and so even though I was talking to the Lord all the time I wasn't fitting the mold I thought and so I just love this book because you just bring it down to such a sweet simple practical relationship with the Lord when you think of prayer what are you talking about when when you want to encourage women to have confident conversations with God Well you know I I would say in in leadership one of one of my desires just to see girls have a a close intimate relationship with their their heavenly father. And you know it takes intention -ality and I used I think of it almost like a marriage. You know the the the word of God talks about how we're his bride of Christ and so our relationship with father. That's one of the ways he describes it and so when you look at your relationship. You're you're closeness to guide. You can look at it somewhat like a marriage In it takes intentional Times with your spouse to cultivate a close relationship and that's sacred that's very special in beautiful and and and personal And when it comes to prayer I think so often I would. I would say this about myself as well we can. We can struggle to think that our prayers to be perfect and we think about what that almost like gods of valuating keeping keeping score on how articulate. We are and the words we use and our sentence structure. And if you're an if you're like to write it which both of us do you can kind of analyze you know out of this sound with this sound right and but I think I think that all of us can tend to do that no matter what and and feel like we're failing to conversation with God and and and it is God just loves to hear us. He loves to communicate with US. He loves to be with US and he is not analyzing any. Ah Years just like Oh wow she is wanting to be with me and you know the beauty of our Christ relationship are intimate relationship with him. Is that it's anytime anywhere. Yes and and so you know I I have just so grown in. I just talking to him all the time you know. And and listening for his voice Britain thing for his guidance and and so the more. You're with him the more you're you understand him. The more you just like the marriage right example or it could be a friendship. Y- God's our relationship with God is called a friendship too so you can look at it that way but when when you first get to know you're getting to know a friend you know the conversations you have with them are how you get to know them right in the more you converse with them. The more you understand them. It's the same way with God. And and so you know our our personal times with personal devotional time with him You know devotion towards is just an immense love and intense love for them that you long devotion is his long to be with them and so are devotional time with the with the heaven. Our heavenly father is is so important because it is in that time that he can. We really get to know him. Exactly that feeds all the other time you know Amen. Well I was looking through through this book and I thought you know what I really think. This would be an amazing discipleship tool because you really just talk about the different aspects of prayer and then you just got some practical interactive things that I just thought you know what this is what we need. I think sometimes an oil I love the word of God I value the word of God but if we only have the word of God were settling for a monologue. God is speaking to ask but when we learn out a poor out our heart him it does become that holy conversation. Yeah however I don't know about you but I've not ever heard the audible voice of God and so I used to think that God was at speaking to me. What would you say to that girl is like well? People tell me that God's wants to speak but I don't know how to hear him you know I think the Voice of God is so multifaceted We have to be careful to think. He has to speak in a certain way because I think he can he can. He can speak through you right now to me right Whether that's through which he has still Anna just in our conversation. I'm so encouraged by it too. That's the voice of God right. The Voice of God could be a friend in your life that saying. You know you need to think about this. This is hurting your relationship with God. That's the voice of God You know the Voice of God can be through a a book that is is graced with the word of God in it and Is Truth to us to encourage us in our faith. That's the voice of God and sometimes there is whether it's like an audible voice which I believe God can't speak in an audible voice. 'cause he's got. I don't WanNA limit him but I too like you would say that is very rare in my life. I think there's I can say there's two times in my life where I felt. I heard God speak to me. Was it audible? Was IT in my mind. You know I I don't know but I know it was God right right and you know it was God and there. It's been a long time since I would say that. I had an experience like that so sometimes we can go. Well is he still speaking to me? You know because and yes he is. We don't want to limit how God speaks. You could be in. This has happened to me. I've been in a grocery line ready to check out and buy groceries. Felt in my spirit. I should pay for the girls. The girl in this instance who is purchasing groceries and frienemie actually in the story. That's coming to my mind. I think is in. She believes but there was a girl in front of me who I sensed needed me to pay for her cupcakes. I paid for her cupcakes. Didn't know who she was found out later she attended the church. I didn't know that tended our church and had no money that day. It was her son's birthday and she felt God told her to go in the grocery store by cupcakes. And she didn't know how she was. GonNa pay for them. Wow Okay so did I hear audible voice. That day no was God leading me and speaking to me through his spirit. Yes even though. It's just it's you know. God's Gaza Big Guide and he. He speaks to us through a lot of different ways. He you know. Do you ever look at a sunset and just fill him speaking to your spirit. I'm a big guy. My God I'm GonNa Take Care of you. I made the sunset you know I made this. Or you're standing by the ocean and you see the power God displayed in the waves in you sense the Holy Spirit speak to. I'm big enough anything you're walking through. That's the voice of God. Amen Amen and and so you know. We don't need to make a complicated. Yeah I was just thinking that I was thinking we keep trying to make God fit our little paradise fit in our little God box and what we think and and we do the same thing to ourselves. We're like I've got to be this and I've got to be that and it's not it's not about checking off the boxes comparing yes. Haring are experience with other girls around us. You know your your responsibility is to follow. Jesus your responsibility and calling us to be in his presence and to seek him with all your heart then however he wants to lead you is his responsibility exactly and hence so we can get so wrapped up in a well. God's doing this in her and Gods God's speaking to her this way you know what that's GonNa Hinder you from hearing what God speaking to you so you really careful with. I can fall into that trap you know and I have to. As we talked about earlier I have to write my thinking. Hey God wants to work in Ne- Personally Amen and you know I I just it occurs to me. We're living in a culture even a Christian culture that we think that that phrase God wants to use me mean something big and extraordinary and I look at what God's done through your women's ministry and now you're having designed for life events to in Dover and how many thousands of women Oh my goodness we well Joanna's amazing. We have a record number registered this year. Eight thousand seven hundred something like that already or eight hundred eighty registered so. It's IT for next October. That's for next October. And we're recording in December and were. Yeah it started with three hundred seventy four girls years ago. It's amazing and I would say to every girl out there. Just keep walking leap walking in. What God's called you to you know so often I see girls. They look at this goal for their lives. Like an and I describe it as like. They're climbing a mountain and they're looking. They're looking at the summit and they're like I WANNA be there. That's where God's called me too and it could be that God's called them there I I don't know but the problem is they're not keeping their eyes on the path and and the path is so beautiful if you if you use the analogy of climbing a mountain if you've ever done any hiking you know when you start at the base of the mountain it's very wooded and it's hard to see it's hard to see where God is leading in this with this illustration but but you have to focus on the path because there is beauty in every step there. There's there's responsibility in every step. And if you don't focus on the path you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA potentially fall off the edge nervously. You'RE GONNA miss out on the view. The gorgeous gorgeous view around the bend. And because your eyes are so fixated on the summit and and so you know when God called me just to use this as an illustration with God called me to lead James River. The women have James River I felt him speak to me that someday autumn which are auditorium says seeds three hundred three thousand four hundred people that someday the auditorium would be filled with women we had never had an event that was more than a few hundred and I was like. How would that ever happen? And I doubted. That could be possible because I'd never seen it happen. But he he said I'm calling you to this and I want you to start stepping out in faith and so that I did that first year. We had no money. I had no team and I started that this conference and and just trusting that God if I would if I would step out in faith he was big enough to do the rest and and so in there again. It doesn't have to do with numbers it has to do with obedience. Enduring wet has got speaking to you. You know it could be a variety of things. But it's it's stepping over your questions and being trusting that if God's leading you to do something he he's going to provide everything you need to accomplish his will So it's it's an incredible story. Huby and I I just I love ministering to two women and I love seeing them grow in His grace and grow in faith and growing confidence in him and that's what she praises about. I you know. Prayer is the baseline for everything. Amen has a believer man. So that's my hope for every girl they would. They would grow in their understanding of WHO? God is and what he can do in through them. I love it Oh my goodness. I could just talk to you forever but I just I just want you to know God. His used you significantly in my life in in some pivotal ways. Al I thank you for not for not staying comfortable for not just saying you know what? I'm just a shadow kinda girl. I'm just the background kind of girl that you were willing to let God call you forth and step out in faith and and you know again. I just want to say to those listening. Please don't get enamored with the huge dream. Yeah because you'll miss his presence along the way. Yeah and I think you can hear in Debbie's heart in her voice just how much she loves. Jesus and isn't that you girls listen you ministry girls. Isn't that what we want to replicate? Yes that's what we want to replicate and I would love to. Have you pray over our girls out there As we close our podcast time together. Well let me say first. Every girl who's listening God has a planet purpose for your life. He wants he wants to use you in whatever setting you're in he wants to use you to bring the atmosphere of faith into your homes. Yes in tier workplaces. He wants you to embrace the truth about who he created you to be so you can represent him to the world around you and it may look different from Joanna and I it. It's a big deal to God. He men every platform of ministry. Whether it's to our families whether it's being a servant in our churches were whether it's in a work environment every platform is important. Every platform has the potential to build the Kingdom and reveal. God's grace to the world so heavenly father right now I pray for every girl listening and maybe a guy out there to guide you every person within Within range of our voices today. God I pray that the words that we have spoken that they would go deep within their spirit guide that maybe for for someone out there that just fill has felt like getting up. Felt like they're not enough felt lake that they can't go on. God I pray right now that you had occurs God that you are with him that your presence would just invade that space right now. Wherever they're at God they would send Hsu God God that you have created them to be enough and you want to provide all that. They need for whatever they're facing today. God I thank you God for every leader out there. God I pray that our conversation would have sparked a just an excitement within them it enthusiasm within them. God for what you WanNa do in and through them God that navy the things that you have places. Maybe you've planted a seed of an idea in their hearts and they're like how could that ever happen? I don't feel like I'm I don't feel like I would. It takes God cut. It's you're working in and through them. That will accomplish. It helped them to look to you. Guide Bhai Faith and then to take the step. Maybe it's just one tiny step by step. Maybe it's it's sharing that dream with someone Godwin ever it is God. I pray that you would help them to do that. Got Him we give you. Glory God give you glory got for all that you are. God we just praise you guys for for your goodness in your grace. It's at work at all our lives. God We thank you for this opportunity and we thank you for what you're GONNA do in Jesus name okay. So what did you think is beautiful heart or what I can tell you from firsthand. Experience deb is the real deal you can learn more about her books and our ministry especially her designed for live conferences. Over at the show notes. Joanna WEAVER BOOKS DOT COM forward slash zero two eight. If you have a friend WHO's fulltime ministry? I hope you'll share this episode. You can do it by clicking on the three dots at the bottom of I tunes or the Upload Simple on spotify in other podcast players and hey if you're in leadership yourself I'd love to invite you to be part of my leadership email list. You'll get a backstage pass to sample sessions of my Bible studies as well as access to the merry hearted leader weapon are in free devotional. I've created just for you. Just go to studies DOT Joanna. Weaver BOOKS DOT COM and sign up there. Well no matter what realm of influence. God is giving you whether it's big or small. God wants to use you right where you are my Brennan. 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Ep12# - Making Room For You

The Holistic PT Podcast

41:24 min | 9 months ago

Ep12# - Making Room For You

"You are listening to Bella. Cpt podcast my unconventional musings of broken down into BITE SIZED CONVERSATIONS. Degree contain the holistic living and self reclamation. I am hearst Lynn Mental Performance H. And students alike. I'm to remind you that life is a journey. Oxycodone meant to be overcome and I'm eager to share mine in here about euless for you. I'm the woman wants needed and together. We will explore exactly what it takes a deconstruct reinvent who we are and what we know in order to feel on and become very piece. Is that moment my friend right here right now. Welcome you're listening to the holistic. Podcast is episode number twelve. This episode is all about getting out of your own Damn Way and it offers incredible insight currently into the life of Ellen an all the ways in which I am offering myself more space and most simplicity and more slowness more ease This episode truly. It's really about how to get out of your way so that you can move forward how to reveal the next step without forcing it right. It's such a beautiful such a beautiful revelation and I'm really really glad that you're here and I just WanNa do a really quick shout to everyone who is either new listening in new today or who has been falling along students to start. I'm you guys are incredible and I just WanNa acknowledge you because if you're here on this podcast listening to these words You're up to something special. I know it sir. Congratulations and you're in the right place. And I would love to hear from years. I make sure that you guys a hitting me up over on Instagram at the dot holistic dot PT We have a little fun over there. Charlotte insights a little really beautiful truths and what? I'm learning what I'm choosing what I'm listening to what I'm reading. All the things that really encompass where landing right now so I find that to be really valuable when I'm following other people sir. If you're interested in me in the ways I'm choosing in the ways I'm showing up. That is the place to be with me Sir. My loves without further ADO This is episode twelve enjoying. It's always such a pleasure to have you here gene. Say Thank you. I hope you're well. I hope you really. Well hope you're nourish near he and I hope you're taking the moments in the time to check in with yourself and Ana what feels really good for you right now. So here's the thing. My Love Life changes when you decide you no longer want to live out. What's patterns that do not serve you? Write life changes. When you decide that you no longer went to live out your old patterns your old behaviors your old cycles And you take full responsibility and Powell for that reclaim reclaim your responsibility in your power for that. WanNa main by that is sometimes all it takes is just this really firm decision to change right to change to decide that you no longer want to keep doing what you're doing right to keep trotting down the same path and the only thing that ever stands in our way is ourselves had it so selves and something. I've been practicing as of late is getting out of my own way like literally getting out of my own way like quite literally see myself standing in my own way literally. I'll reach out to a friend and downplay working so that it doesn't seem like I am wanting to much help too much of their time too much of their energy ride I will reach out to someone and ask them if they like to be on the podcast for an interview and I can quite literally just see my self trying to get in the way of that you know by telling me that. I'm not good enough that I'm not worthy enough that I don't know what I'm doing that I need more experienced that you know everyone else is doing this You know who do you think you will whatever it is? I can quite literally see these really old stories in these old beliefs coming through an I am quite literally getting in my own way or I'm trying to now. It's really really amazing. That you know have landed in this place where I can witness that and I can notice that and I can. And I'm so hyper aware of that. I'm very vigilant about it. I can see that. That's exactly what I'm doing. And the truth is every time. I am standing in my way. It shows up his resistance right. It's like a contraction. It's like no. I don't think I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready I'm ready right. I'm always ready. You know there's no there's no way to know when you're ready right. Sometimes you've just got to anchor into your core values and the things that you genuinely in line with that you know are reflected back to you is some form of truth and trust like literally trust and let go and move out of your way and so last night. I went to bed with this idea in my mind because lately I've been feeling really been putting a little pressure myself to move fast and to get things done and I'm watching the clock and I'm feeling the sense of urgency like need to be somewhere even though there's nothing or no way that I need to be nothing that I need to be doing on like this pressure and it's really It's really really obvious and I have other practices that I'm doing in relation to this but I thought it would be fun to share with you. Something that I'm that I'm playing with right now because it's already feeling so beautiful. It's already serving me in the most generous way so last one I went to bed and I was like what. If and this is such a great way to approach that decision when no longer went to live at the things on our no longer serving you just perch lack. What if black hair like a project lower research project you being kind of the project in your life being the project and You know your mind being like the one that researches it right so you can approach it with some curiosity so I just said what if when I put my phone on Flat Mary Tonight. I don't take it off flattered until eleven. Am tomorrow like what if between now eleven am. Tomorrow I dr check my social media my emails facebook. I don't open my laptop. I daren't go on Youtube I don't scroll lied aren't I enjoy anything with my phone with the Internet with my social fades any of that Emma. What's up groups Access TO MY COMMUNITIES. My people is lots and lots of responsibility inside those spaces and I thought there were things that came up Zach What is a needs me? You know what if someone needs me? Or what if just always what? S what if one of my coaches is taken his Miranda class. What if someone is enquiring about membership? What if someone wants to contact me about my online program like what if what if what if what if Madeleine moon gets back to me by email She's coming on the show in a couple of weeks. Look what if and I just? I quite literally could see myself standing on this party. I'm going seamy seamy. Do you not know how important I am right? Like you're important. It's and it was so liberating riot so laboring to see this and I was like hell. Yeah Hell Yeah. Let's turn these foreign on flight mode. I'm going to spend the first four hours of my day listening to my body and doing whatever off feels really really good. Even if I don't know what that is now you know even if I can't plan for that now and that was the point right. I wasn't planning for anything. I just knew that the first four hours of my day or be dedicated to stillness and to what feels really really good right. This like this practice is so incredibly backwoods to the way that we live right. It's so incredibly backwards to the way that we live it. So incredible credibly backwards to the way that I've lived for before in the last six months. Probably the five years prior to that right so backwards so every single cell in my body was excited but there was still part of me that was resisting in Contracting Ratto superdome resisting contracting and so I went to bed I work up in the morning and I have this practice that I do. I dislike my bed and I feel the support underneath me and I smile and I'm just instantly grateful right and then I will I slam legs over the edge of the bed. Roll my neck out. Roll my risat. Take a few really big deep breaths and just sigh and I just connect disconnect before I start rushing because this rushing is addictive like we. We just do this that habit. We don't even realize it when someone asks you to pause and slow down your lack. Why right so this is how I like to start my day with intention of moving slow and calculated and so I got up and I went. Rv To my The table in my room at Zach. This little older that I have an late. My Beautiful Candle From the Jazzmen Room. And I'M GONNA link. I'm going to link this up because in the show notes because they candles are incredible. You might have seen it on my instagram story Five days ago or they are so sacred and magical and divine So I'll link up the jasmine room right for anyone that's interested in in having something really sacred it as part of their morning ritual as of something that they can witness and see In this space right. So if you're listening on spotify spotify or is it owns. You WanNA guarded the holistic. Pt Dot Com. Today you Ford such podcasts. And it will be episode number twelve and you'll save jasmine room linked up there This is not a paid advertisement. I'm just absolutely idol. Their work at soy sensational. Anyway so I look late. My candle and I put some music on and I just I just was in stillness. I just noticed sensations coming through my body I tapped into my heart And I just I was there for about fifteen minutes maybe twenty minutes and then. I started journaling. Anchoring into you know some of my core values my personal rules set my intention for the day and then I started to get ready because I'll slack you know what would feel really good for me. Right now is going for a walk right and so started getting ready to go for a walk and then it started to pour down rain now. Zach Like Ellen. Six months ago would have been devastated. United LACK WHY NO LIKE. I finally put time aside to take myself on a walk and I would sort of grab hold of that victim mentality in north along But I would have grabbed hold of it and just be like well. Fuck you know and so. It's our rainy and I was like okay on hurry and turn on some music and I started the process of decluttering which is a person that I have been so iga so so eager to do for the last few weeks right because my purse of decluttering is more a reflection of how much I've expanded and grown you know in the last six months I have. I've gone through some incredible transformations of embodied some new practices new ways of being existing in the world so new beliefs some new core values and a really really appreciate and respect that my environment. We'll have to change. You know to reflect more have landed with my values where I've landed with my growth where I've landed with my development and so right now I've been craving and I've tapped into some values of spacious nece and simplicity sacredness intimacy can sensuality. And so you know I went a wanted all of my spaces to reflect this. You know I really wanted all of my space to reflect this and so when it started to rain. It wasn't my intention to declutter is simply though. I'M GONNA fold some clothes because they've been sitting on my floor for the last twelve days so pick those apple. Stop folding and then just organically on it organically unveiled like. I just started going through the drawers and cleaning things out and I got a garbage bag inside of packing things up. Then I was onto really old jewelry and things that I've had since I was like eighteen years old that you know when I used to wear going out clubbing. And none of that stuff serves me now when we make room for what doesn't service now. Ask sorry when we get rid of what isn't serving. Now we make room for what is right. So as an example was going through my My lingerie drill now had some really beautiful pieces in there and I I really love. I really really sexy and beautiful in them as like it had these for a really long time and I didn't want to let them go. I don't WanNa let them garb those disease pot of meals like if I let them go then I can create space for something new right for something new. I can create space for something new. That would look even looking feeling more sexy right. I I can make space for what really aligned with me now. The woman I am now the woman I was when I was twenty three. You know the woman I am now right. L. is just such a really profound experience and I enjoyed every step riot. I really did And so now my bedroom. It's one of many spaces now represents an aligns with where I'm at where landing my values it's important to me You know I've got beautiful plants and I've got organic flax sheets I've got nothing in the room. No longer serves me and has just moved at It's kind of I've created this little sanctuary this sacred space for me and and while I was doing it my friends time moved with me right not against me at moved with me like I just was in this flow. State is really beautiful flow state which it's such a beautiful space to be in. Have you ever just sodded doing something that you enjoyed Sawyer Farley that you don't even feel the need to look up and check the time right like it? Serves you at says every single cell in your body and there's nothing about it that That means a crates. This this internal kind of dissolution where you feel like you have to look up or that you need to do something else you know like it was just so beautiful in saw. That was my morning and it was really profound. You know when I turn my phone back on at eleven am. Yeah I had messages. I had things coming through emails and my mind was in such a beautiful state of receiving all of that like it was not full lasted. It was not Busy it was not Was Jammed up riot was not jammed up. It was ready. It was willing. It was open. It was in a state of Receivership Ryan. So when I was reading through my meant my messages and catching up on my morning. Everything was easy and they were emails sitting in my inbox dot. Honestly as like you know what I really want to go back and listen to this. And I'd flagged it like yeah I'm GonNa go back and listen to that and I've just never ever fully committed myself to doing that and so when I went back into my email with this really on jammed open mind I just I was so able to see it for what it was as like. This is a scarcity mindset. I'm thinking you know by flagging ness in wanting to go back to it but never really going back to it. I think I'm GonNa Miss Something and so I deleted the email as I if I meant to finance again if I need to see this again I'll know where to look you know. Our SAR was able to land there in that moment with so much clarity and my goodness so much permission which was old last week's episode right all about permission just giving ourselves permission to to do all the things that really serve us And so this is just another version of that. You know just giving yourself permission giving ourselves permission to do that. Which is backwards right. Because sometimes that which is backwards is actually won't move US forward sometimes not which is backwards is necessary to move forward right so profound So life changes. When you decide you no longer want to live out. There's old patents. Begin taking full responsibility for those things. Ratliff really does change. It's such a profound. It's such profound insight for you today and I guess when I do this work with my clients a lot a lot of the time I say. Resistance arise around other sponsor abilities of the hats that they have to wear. Whether it's a mom hat the business are in a hat The woman hat the busy hat Whatever it is I understand that there are. I understand and I acknowledge that there are always going to be things that stand in your way. I understand that they were going to be things that make it hard to make these choices or at least that's how they same. That's how they feel my love. I WANNA remind you that. Sometimes Wallace things may seem very very hard. What what is on the other side of those things is so much freedom right and that can feel very scary when you're so used to doing one thing the same way all the time you know we fall into these things we we fall into these things and we almost trump ourselves. You know we all my strap muscles because it seems like they're working really really really well but then we look in the Mirror. We come up for air and we notice. That's not the truth. We artist. And we know this because we are intuitive. Human beings had the Borys fast smarter than anything else right so whether you believe it or not the body nor is the truth and so sometimes we come up against the body and we feel it resists and contract to doing the same thing. Auburn Auburn Harvard. Gang going to the job. That doesn't serve you right. Contribute in a way that is not serving you right not showing up not doing the things that you love not taking the time out for yourself not giving yourself the time the space right the possibility that you deserve that is your birthright right so in the face of that resistance we have choices like we have choices and even if one of those choices is to set yourself and intention to say okay. Will I notice? I'm nervous now. This is no longer serving me and I and my intention is to move away from that. There is no rule that says that that must be done right away. If you're unhappy in your job if you're not happy in a relationship if there is something holding you back from creating the change that you see there is no rule that says it must be done all at once. I in fact looking at it that way through that. Lens is incredibly overwhelming Ryan. Imagine if it had to be done all at once right imagine fouls like you know what I want. All my spaces to reflect wherein landing right now with myself. I don't want it done now. You know that's a lot of pressure. I kinda fun with that. I- cutting joy persa copy creative. I can't step into it with a really open mind and like a beautiful reverence for where I've landed right the purses shifts. It becomes more about getting done now. Which is which is. Part of the part I'm rushing through life right so it doesn't have to be done right away or all at once however simple noticing an simply knowledge man away you're landing and just understanding that the next step will reveal itself in the minute the moment that you're willing to look there that you're willing to go down that you're willing to unveil the truth right. If I'm not happy in my job and I and I admit that to myself and honest with myself the next step will appear you know. I don't need to know what it is. I just need a I be honest about what it is. Which is that. I'm not happy right. And then the next step will reveal itself and then the step off that will reveal itself and this is quite literally a flow. State is how this is trust at. This is what we call going with the flow right and the only thing that gets in the way of that is you is me. Is I ks? The one that wants to be in control the one who is entrusting the one who is an allowing one who in being honest ride the only thing standing in your way you may and so get out of your way like that. Is the Big Fat Permission. Slip in this episode. Today's just to get the hell out of your way right. Through a few days ago I reached out to Tayla Harris. Who is she's Appro Women's AFL player? She's pretty famous for her The image that was captured of her kicking with her leg fully extended the air. She is an incredible human being actually met her in Japan last year and I reached out to her on instagram. I was like hey like how the hell are you Would you became to come on the podcast? And she was like yes. That would be amazing in straight away. I contracted it was like part of me was like of course she said Yes of course of course Mc of course this serves you. This serves the greater good. Of course she said yes right but then there was this other little small part of me that has conditioned the part of myself that is conditioned to contract and believe that this is going to be a really big deal. It's going to be really hard. This is going to. I'm going to have to prepare and get right and not screw up and you know this this this part of me. That was just like losing her shit right like absolutely losing herships fear failure. This only little fees just came up and I could have let that stop me. You know also of it obviously like you know when these things come. Excuse me when these things come up to me now you know quite aware of it and a message courage and I was like. Whoa like this is. This is coming off me right now. And she's like yeah you're human way to Gar- fuck yeah like it's really that simple. You know a lot of the time we make be deal out of nothing. Ride it kind of service in a way of making us feel like we're important Well that run the pomp and are now. We do this to ourselves at self-imposed riot in Sawyer. I just went with it. And now you know she's GonNa come on the podcast next. Where interviewing next Thursday right and sir? I mean a chat to her about some really incredible things that she's been through specifically around The negative attention. She got with the trolling and and that kind of stuff with the picture and also how she came out the other side and all the positive things that she did In light of that so it's going to be really beautiful and like how cool is that way to go ellen like I just got the hell out of my way and I allowed. You know allowed. It's just it's so beautiful. It's so powerful. You guys so powerful so get out of your own way The first way the first step to getting out of urine ways to simply artist standing in the way is to notice that the way forward is blocked by you and that may look lack. That might play out kind of lack. You're literally standing in your own ways in. You're saying to yourself no like no. That's too scary. That's too hot. I don't know enough. I haven't been doing this long enough and have enough experience. I don't have what it takes. this is not my jam like this just isn't who I am. This isn't what I do right and simply artists that's it. Awareness is the most glorious and powerful tool skillset that we can have right self-awareness simply nervous. Whoa hilarious like I'm standing in my way here and then you get to decide whether or not you want to continue doing that and you know either way is fine. Either way is perfect. You know I stand Myron way in so many other areas of my life and I have stood in my way so many times in so many ways that I don't really can't account right. It's not really important. However we do have a choice and that choice does not have to be a big choice. Like I said that choice can be something really really really small in fact just simply ask yourself what if what if and is play with that concept like what if our okay so you know. I'm I'm I'm really miserable in my career. I don't have any other qualifications. This is the only job I've ever done. You know it's impossible. How do I how do I change my career? How do I just do something new? What if you could okay? What if I could what would I do? What if I could see how does opens you up to a whole new world right at opens up everything at opens up your mind opens up your heart and your heart will be so grateful you did because it's been trying to speak to you this whole time if you're miserable in your job and you're not listening right. She'll be so astounded that you have so excited and she'll lead the way right you've got to trust that ride even when it doesn't work right because we keep standing in a way like this is a habit we do if we're not used to getting out of a concern if we're not used to getting out of her own way you know we'll end up back in our own way and then we just simply noticed again and then we ask themselves the question. What if you know is this? Do I WANNA make this a big deal or could this be really easy? Could I start with one step? That's at one teeny tiny step. One teeny tiny imperfect. Step he is. I never know what I'm going to be doing when you know. I launched when I won't your program like a have the construct. I have the teachings that have the practices. I have some form of a skeleton right but until the people in the room until my students are in front of me and I'm getting to know them and I'm saying what's coming up for them and playing out for them. I don't know how I'm going to speak to them. I don't know in what way I'm going to offer that information that inside that wisdom don't always knowing that right. I just allow myself to arrive there and trust. I'll have the answer revealed to me as I needed. You know when I launch. He'll her a one on one A one on one sixty nine minute session with me was not included in the perse in the package in the marketing and any of it. I didn't mock it that whatsoever because the value of a one on one with me was it just didn't include that riot and then I started seeing them. Registrations come through started seeing who the people were started to get to Norway them and my heartfelt cold psych. No I really for this to work for me for this to be valuable for this to be an experience that really makes a difference allows his transformation to fully take hold here. I need to do a one on one and I listened and I booked in thirteen one on one training sessions over two weeks and that is more one on one training sessions than I've ever done in a two week period riot. I was so gassed however it was so beneficial. But I didn't know that I was going to do that right. And of course all the beautiful women who are part of this program or astounded at the generosity Ryan but that's how I felt called to contribute and next time maybe it will be included. You know but I don't know that yet. I don't mean tonight yet so important right now right so I argue you learning something here be learning how easy it is or how easy it can be. How simple it can be to really get out of your way even if it's just in the more seemingly insignificant of ways right and this is your permission to do that right. This is your permission Mrs you permission to do that. Work And more than anything. It's your experience you know once you have this experience when you once you begin this journey once you start noticing use honor to sing it in every other way possible riot and you'll just see it can be confronting and it can also be incredibly liberating all the ways in which you've been limiting yourself all the ways in which you've been standing in your way old ways you've believed that you couldn't have something right. I'm guilty of this too. You know I've done this before. But I've spent a lot of time money energy going through this process in very deep very deep ways Sawyer permission to get out of your way K. says beautiful. When I woke up this morning I thought something popped into my head. I listened to a podcast was a long time ago and the guy on the show was like every morning. I wake up and I think of you know. How can I serve? Contribute to the wall today. How can I serve my people and I remember back then thinking to myself? Gosh that's a little pressure. I thus so much pressure to put on yourself first thing in the morning and then I realized that I realized this this morning that how can I how I can be of service isn't always through something physical as an always through doing something physical having conversation recording podcast showing up to a meeting having a one on one session coaching someone in the Gym Coaching? Someone online right. How I can be of service isn't always something physical. It's not just showing up on instagram. It's not just you know putting my face out there putting my content my wisdom my words out there how I can be of service is sometimes and maybe all the time. We'll see to put my phone on flight mode until eleven. Am every morning and tat back into what lasts me the fuck up so that when you need me. I'm there and I'm ready and I'm always pin and can receive you riot how I can be of service sometimes isn't just through giving me something. I can be in my ability to hold space because I've created that space myself to hold it right to hold you to hold your words to hold your emotions to hold whatever is coming out few otherwise. I'm just as crazy running around trying to get everything done riot. Hold you in that space. In fact I'm doing a disservice to myself and to my work into my people into my communities. If that's what I'm choosing I know this right. This isn't some global collective rule. I just know this is a rule for me. I just know that doesn't work for me right and when I know that it doesn't work for me. I have every right to choose differently. I have every right to put my own flat mode and take it off and eleven. Am in the morning after doing things that really light me up. And this doesn't mean that I that this does not mean that I you know if I got really big things coming up if I've got a meeting if got an interview always on these days. I'm going to choose differently. I'M GONNA make it work in you way. Maybe my phone goes on flat married at four. Pm and it doesn't come back on until the following morning. I can make it work right. I can make it work. All I know is that this works me and I want you to notice if you feel the need to justify how it works why it works or why it won't work just notice how it will work for you like if you're justifying how that's GONNA work if you're justifying it to your friends your family your Patna. Whatever it is that you need. If you're justifying it in any way or in the reverse justifying why why work near you like well you know what working because this this this and this and you clearly. I get it I say you I I really do know and I'm just going to pass on the baton and leave you with it and trust that you'll find your way right and if not now maybe later right. I have to trust that right because that's not my responsibility. It's yours right so get out of your own way. Whatever you're putting off whatever you're holding back on whatever you're not doing whatever you're not saying whatever you're not leaving whatever you're not starting you know whatever's on hold whatever is flag whatever is on pause just remember it's not about having to do every single step fee to take the first one it's just simply about taking the first one trusting that the next one. We reveal itself to write a lot of the time. Our overwhelm is made up. It's made up my head through a conditioned threats beliefs and ways in which we feel we need to rush around allies run in. It's an old paradigm in its US really stepping into that masculine space However what I'm asking you to step more into that Feminine Energy which is Energy Feminine is energy riot. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful space to ban. You know tap back into that. Intuition I into your body become embodied right SA- get out of your way and if there's anything that you feel like is really holding you back a blocking you and you just cannot see away through or pass or try to take the first step and you got not back in you and you felt like he can trust to try again. Talk to me about it. Come and see me on instagram. Let me know where you're landing. I can offer you a little wisdom a little support or just say I see you. Keep going you know. Sometimes it's not about going big. It's not about just saying all the things and doing things. Sometimes it's just a okay all right next step moving along right. Feel the difference in that energy so simple and I'm really interested in simplicity right now. Sorry my loves. I'm really curious what's one thing or a one way in which you are currently getting in your own way like your firmly standing clear as day in your own way. What's one way you're doing this? Maybe it's in your job. Maybe it's in your upscaling. Maybe it's in finances. Maybe you feel like you know what you need to do. But you're not willing to do it or you can't see how y you should all the way yet right What's one way that you're so firmly standing in your own way and head over to instagram and share with me over at? They don't holistic dot share that with me and permission to move out of your way my love see see you. I love you and I'll be back next week with I don't know yet. Thank you guys so much for being here and chaining today. I really appreciate you prisons and your attention. Truly if you found value in today's podcast please subscribe should is third on your social feed of choice guys. New instagram is. My social playground can find me over there at the door. Holistic don't and guys please please episode inspired today Canadian make you feel be? No one would even help you to think about change. Did you have any specific beautiful morning's revelations old when you came to my data reince Baier's act on brace? Would maybe reclaimed a piece of yourself. You will look whatever it is. It is a fate. I'm interested in love to hear from you. And if you're anything like me and you struck sue find the right words and Times Fu Free Pop. A new emerging on any pitches over on instagram and I learned something from has been today. I would be Sir Pechiney to celebrate without. If you're feeling particularly generous today go only Mirim Capriccio that me to get these words musings into a trump. I appreciate for sure nights. 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Special: Crisis lessons from inside the ER, with Dr. Bon Ku

Masters of Scale with Reid Hoffman

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Special: Crisis lessons from inside the ER, with Dr. Bon Ku

"Hi Listeners it's read. We have lots of exciting news to share. I on May Twelfth. We return with season six and our first brand new episode features Angela Errands. It's a two part episode. You'll never forget second masters scale has been nominated for two. Webby awards and we'd be honored if you'd vote for us in their people's choice awards. The categories are for best business podcast and for best live podcast recording. You can vote at vote. Dot Webby awards DOT COM. That's vote dot. Webby awards dot com and I should add. This special episode is presented in partnership with the Hustle and their premium newsletter trends dot co a community in research publication helping businesses navigate this time visit trends dot co slash scale to get started and now onto the show. When this first started it was very dramatic. The emergency room literally changed overnight. A wish more people can see what is going on in hospitals. I don't think we're seeing the images that we really need to see those stories. I cannot trust enough to people that Dow's depths that we're seeing now are preventable. I've seen a lot of creativity and hustle going on in my hospital in hospitals across the country. We have this opportunity to fundamentally redesign our healthcare system and we are never going to go back to the old normal. That's Dr Bond Coo. An emergency room doctor in Philadelphia. He's been on the front lines in fighting covert nineteen trying to manage healthcare for a flood of patients. It's required constant integration from sourcing treatment options via twitter to Three D. Printing test. Swabs this is Bob. Sathian host of masters of scale Rapid Response Bond coups experiences emblematic of the resourcefulness risk and hope of medical first responders in the pandemic. He says he's pretty sure that he'll get cova. Nineteen at some point and he worries about infecting his family. He also worries about faulty incentives in the medical system and offers on the ground business lessons for all of us to take away from the crisis. Let's listen I'm Bob Sathian and I'm here with Dr Bond coup an emergency room physician working in the covert war at Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia. He's also an assistant dean at the medical school there. Director of the Health Design Lab and author of the Book Health Design Thinking. He's been doing regular shifts at the emergency room staying at a nearby hotel and then on off days returning to his family. He's coming to us from the hospital itself just across from the emergency room as I asked my questions from my home in New York Bond. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me you work directly in the covert ward. How did you get that assignment? Amon Emergency Room doctor. So all of us who work in the emergency room spend some shifts in what's called the hot zone of the emergency department so we see patients who have symptoms of Cova nineteen there and those patients go to the hot zone because we want to eliminate those patients who seek regular care in the emergency department from being infected with Cova nineteen. So I've just destroying of shifts over the past ten days in in that part of the emergency room. So what is the typical shift is a change from what Shift was like six weeks ago even four weeks ago like is it changing all the time. When this first started it was very dramatic. I had worked an overnight shift in the emergency room. The volumes have been down by almost fifty percent on some days. And it's been eerily quiet in the Emergency Room. It's been like an empty e. r. and then when a return this was in early. March than when a return to work in the emergency room all of a sudden. I saw my colleagues wearing full protective gear. They're wearing those scary looking has met suits with a pampers. These are those hoods and masks that you put on and I had come onto my shift and immediately I had to intubate a patient who was suspected of having cove in nineteen and that means putting that patient on a mechanical ventilator so the emergency room literally changed overnight. It's a Mike and has it then stayed at that same feeling that same pace since early. March we saw a rise in cases dramatically and it seems like right. Now it's plateauing the number of cove nineteen cases and what's also been encouraging. Is that people who have regular diseases. That are outside of cove in nineteen. I'm talking about heart attacks and strokes and people with appendicitis. Those patients are starting to come back to the emergency room and seeking care so our volumes have been picking up but the number of sick Cova cases. Seems like it's been plateauing but the situation changes from day to day. So it's it's really hard to provide a day by day analysis. I think what we are looking for is trends in that data watching and reading the news it can be hard to keep track for me of serve. What the medical and treatment information current for a doctor or like you on the front lines. How do you know what is most relevant? How do you keep up? It's hard to keep up with the news. There's so much misinformation and disinformation out there in terms of treating these patients. It is very complicated because it's a new disease that we've never seen before and we don't have the randomized control trials that normally guide our medical management of these patients. So what I've been doing. A lot is talking to my emergency from colleagues in New York City. Getting advice from them Lot of doctors like myself have gone on social media actually on twitter and on blogs and podcasts and learning from those doctors who that I trust who have managed many more of these patients and I have and getting the real time advice because our traditional method of learning through scientific journals. It's too slow right now. There's a whole community. It's called free open access in medicine. And there's some experts that I trust as authorities on one of them is Dr Rich Levitan. Who have been talking about. Best Practices in the management of patients with Cova Nineteen and so a lot of experts have been sharing their management of patients on on twitter and on blogs. I'm reading a lot always trying to educate myself the public health information. Seems like it's so so fragmented right and you're not necessarily able to rely on your own hospital your own hospital system. Oregon's your on hospital system may not have enough clear information. I think this has exposed some fractures that we have in our healthcare system and one of them is the ability to act on real time data because data and especially data from Chani health records are silo. It's very difficult for me. Dr In Philadelphia to learn about the management of these patients from doctors in your city who've seen just more cases that stuff so I've been relying on social media to get some of this knowledge and our our way of disseminating data is full of roadblocks the electronic medical records so those are not designed to be linked up in this kind of way for community health purposes correct electronic. Health records are amazing. The grades but they've been primarily designed for for billing and they have not been designed for doctors in real time to make a decision at the patient's bedside and I think what we can learn from from this crisis is how do we fundamentally change data systems. How do we redesign them? In order for us to make real time decisions based upon quality data. I know you're have long been interested in invested in the interaction between design and health and medicine and how to make that work better. I know a major role with your patients. You're contributing to and encouraging design solutions. There's two different projects that help design lab that we've been engaging with one you know it comes from this need for mechanical ventilators and back in early March. What's horrified me was that it was projected that we would not have a ventilators and that we'd be in a situation like our Italian colleagues where they were making decisions on these horrible decisions on who gets ventilator and who does it and I was fortunate to link up with a team from Mit WHO's working on a bridge ventilator as they call a as a temporary solution until hospital ventilator became available and so this team of MIT engineers work with several companies in in New York City. Actually new lab and Anteks Beta to design and manufacture a ventilator within a month which has been a amazing on our end. We've been working. On a project of how to safely manually ventilate patients that means training a volunteer corps of humans to patients if there were no ventilator so we just did this because we're were literally trying to build a plane while flying it. We don't ever want to be in the situation. Where as a doctor you have to decide who gets live and who gets to die and so it was important for us to act quickly and to come up with options. Fortunately the way depending is going. It looks like we're GonNa have enough ventilators for this phase in in the spring. Well that's reassuring certainly but I can see why you wanted to have other options you you also have a three D. lab at the hospital. What are you doing in the three D. lab so my colleagues have been working on a project to three D prints swabs for covert testing. What has happened as we've expanded our ability to test patients for Co vid. We've run out these little sticks that you put in a patient's nose in order to test for covert if we don't have those sticks swabs we can't test and there have been researchers working with three. D. Printing companies to open source. Had it three. You print the so what we've been doing for the past week is repurposing our lab in order to manufacture these covert swabs in house. It's like you have to be your own supplier as a last resort. It is what this pandemic expose. Is the vulnerability in our supply. Chains for hospitals hospitals are designed for maximum efficiency which is good but it leaves no room for hospitals to build this surplus of supplies and medications and equipment that's needed in order to meet surge capacity. We're running out of some of the most basic medications my New York City colleagues of told me when they intimate a patient and put them on mechanical ventilation. There's not enough of the proper meds to sedate a patient. It's a scary thing that within a matter of weeks of virus has totally up ended the supply chains of hospitals across the country. And get some of this is if you're running your hospital from a business point of view before this. Well you don't WanNa pay for equipment or medication or beds that you're not using so you try to keep things as full as efficient and despair as possible and then you get a surge like this and suddenly that whole approaches well the limitation show. Oh absolutely were. Hospitals have in the hardest. Hit areas have become overwhelmed because hospitals weren't designed to meet search capacity hospitals. Weren't designed to deal with these pandemics and hospitals make money from elective procedures and operations schedule. -Ties specialty care. Outpatient visits the lose money on primary care hospitals lose money on public health prevention hospitals. Don't get paid for preparedness and I believe that. Healthcare is fundamentally going to changes. There's GonNa be no going back to normal pre pandemic that there's going to be a new normal and that there has to be A federal mandate of how we re incentivize hospitals of changing our payment system so we incentivize public health right now because public health because primary care a money losers what we see now is some hospitals are closing down. Some hospitals are laying off healthcare workers in the worst public health crisis in a century. There's irony around that you mentioned earlier that there was a point where the flow of patients. Who you normally would see in the emergency room. Slow down what happened to those people. Where did they go? We don't know across the Board. Speak With my colleagues Minor earns mezin colleagues and some of the data. That we've gotten is that there's been a forty to fifty percent decline in volume of emergency room. Visits one explanation is that people are afraid to go to the hospital. A relative of mine shed call me last week and she was in severe pain and we facetime each other and I looked at her and you got to get to the emergency room and I thought she had a kidney stone which ended up. She did have but said it's safe to go to the hospital. We're going to protect you from getting sick so you should go to the hospital. But I think a lot of patients but we're seeing a delay diagnosis that they're staying at home when they're having symptoms of heart attack symptoms of stroke symptoms of severe infection when they should beginning care. Because when I think the public looks at what's going on in emergency rooms they think it's what's happening in New York City which is not the case for most hospitals across the country. Yes some hospitals are like that but a lot of hospitals can accommodate you. And it's safe for you to go and see care and as you described this sort of forty or fifty percent drop and this kind of delaying do you think. Then they'll be some sort of second order impact like another wave of different kinds of patients. We're going to see that. The collateral damage from Cova nineteen is probably worse than the corona virus itself that there are going to be a lot of patients who have not gotten the care for their chronic conditions that they have delayed diagnoses that they're going to have worse health outcomes. I have to ask you this question. How much do you worry about your own health? I don't think about my own health that much because I had already resigned myself to probably getting Cova nineteen from the beginning and that is a risk that I take. I feel very fortunate. My hospital that the leadership here has done an amazing job of preparedness so we have stockpiles of of P. P. That every time I go to the hospital I could wear in and ninety five mask. I have the papper the hood that I can wear so feel very actually protected at work. What concerns me more is potentially infecting my kids and my wife and that's caused me to sometimes stay in a hotel room sometimes not and I get very concerned of potentially having co vid of being a symptomatic knocked symptoms and in that latent period infecting my children was able to string a bunch of ships together and so during that time as well. I'm working a lot in the hospital this week. I'm going to go and check into a hotel and now this week. I'm not working that much. I've been sleeping at home by been away from my family. We have a spare bedroom that I've been sort of sheltering in place there but it's it's hard. It's hard on a lot of emergency room doctors along lot of frontline healthcare workers nurses. It's this mental stress. That's always in the back of reminds. I've spoke to some of my colleagues in the New York City area. Several of them had did learn that to my colleagues their moms just died of Cova did in the past week and another doctor. Slums currently in ICU. With Kovin so it's a lot of mental stress. On many of those who are in emergency rooms are working an ambulance of m. i. infected and am I gonNa Affect others of a whole protocol protocol. As soon as I'm done working a shift in the emergency room I go to my office which is right above the emergency room. I strip out on my scrubs. I leave my shoes in my office. I put my scrubs in a trash bag and I put on a new set of clothes and as soon as I get home. I usually have a bag scrubs. I immediately put into the laundry and then I go immediately to the shower at a routine that I a lot of healthcare workers have been doing. I've heard some of my colleagues actually stripped down at the front door before they even enter into the house so they're getting naked and probably their neighbors can see them but there is a. I don't really care because it's other me exposing myself for or me potentially infecting my family and when you come in how do they react to you when you come home or they like? Oh Daddy's home yet. They sometimes they go. Oh I thought you were sleeping the hotel and then a really affectionate with them. I and I wanted touched and hugged them. But I can't and so that's very difficult. I think it's hard. It's hard for them to understand the chaos that a lot of healthcare workers are seeing in hospitals. And how dangerous this disease and viruses? It's Kinda like when you get a weather alert on your phone and there's a storm coming or the storm here thunderstorm and what I usually do is I look out the window and I go what. It's actually kind of bright and sunny outside. That reality doesn't match the data that I'm getting from my phone but I wish more people can see what is going on in hospitals and what frontline healthcare workers seeing in some of these sick patients so they can understand this. This is a very serious disease. It's something that we have not seen before and we don't have good data out there and a lot of times. We can't tell who's going to get better and WHO's not you're on the Faculty of the Medical School there. What impact is this likely to have on medical school situation? We have not had medical students rotating in the hospital. One is because we don't have enough a enough P P to protect all our learners older medical students and they are missing it. They want to be in the thick of it. There's a group of medical students here who started a an organization to help provide P to two local hospitals. They have the sense of that they want to help. They want to support and they want to help out their fellow. Americans is telemedicine useful right now. Is it filling in some of the gaps of people coming into hospitals or what is the role of telemedicine likely? Look like as we move out of this. Telemedicine is here to stay and I think unfortunately it took a pandemic to convince both patients and doctors that it's going to be really part of the backbone of our healthcare delivery system so as we think about the future and we think about how we're going to redesign the healthcare delivery system. Tell health is GONNA play a pivotal role in that. What is encouraging is a lot more patients. Doctors are getting more comfortable on this platform and I think that is going to continue post pandemic. I think it's going to eliminate some of the traditional barriers that we've seen to accessing healthcare. But I also want to stress to we still gotta think about our vulnerable populations and going forward. How are we GONNA do a better job protecting them? This virus has disproportionately impacted communities of color. It has impacted and really killed a lot of people with unstable housing a lot of people in our prison system. Those who work in factory jobs like meat packing facilities. We got to think about how we as a society how we as a country or going to protect the most vulnerable in our society. Because how are we going to protect those populations over society? Who are disproportionately impacted. Telehealth may role but we gotta make sure. Those patients have broadband access and they can access telehealth patients. Can it sounds pretty stressful. How do you manage your own stress in this environment? What's been helpful? This past week is connecting with my emergency medicine colleagues. A lot of colleagues that I've trained with WHO are in different areas of the country. It was a very traumatic week for us because one of our colleagues in New York City died by suicide. I she was a emergency room. Doctor someone who was our friend a friend of mine I trained with. It's a very stressful time. And what helped me would help us? Getting through is reconnecting with those who knew her reconnecting with those who are going through the same thing that we are Go into different areas of the country and it is extremely stressful time. For many of us we had online zoom memorial service for her yesterday that her department of Emergency Medicine Dead and three hundred yard. Docs on that memorial service expressing our grief and mourning and that was very helpful or all of us to process and gives me hope is that there are some really good people who are who are on the front lines and who are trying to do their best to take care of. Patients in hospitals across the country gives me hope you said to me at one point. That working in the hospital is the most normal part of my day. You explain what you mean by that. It's surprising that for me. Going into shift in the emergency room we're going into my lab is actually the most normal part of my day. It's because we are doing what we did before the pandemic were trying to just take care of patients who We work in team so I work a lot of overnight shifts and it's great to work with the same team that I've worked with before the pandemic and I'm not at home working alone and sometimes when I'm at home just writing emails and reading on this pandemic. It's actually more stressful. At least I feel in the hospital. I've been trained to take care of patients and it feels a lot better being able to practically do something I've had so many great people reach out to me and go. What can we do to help and fortunate enough to have a job or go and actually make a difference during this time? So it gives me a purpose in this pandemic. Do your kids understand and appreciate the risk that you're putting yourself under that you coming home puts them under like do they understand it? I think they do this past week when it was a very difficult week for me. I been very upset by what had happened. And they've seen that in me. You know. Usually I'm pretty optimistic. Guy Who doesn't like to cry and the they've see me crying this week and so it's been so I think they say that it's Just a extremely stressful time. Certainly what's happened in the last week? Underscores that the burdens. That folks like you are under your own. Mental State can become more fractured. You mentioned that you have seasonal allergies. Sometimes you get sniffles and that you start to worry like that. I have something. Yeah my allergies. Have been kicking in that. I'm thinking Am I my stuffy? Nose is that related to covert or. Is that just my allergies? And I'm trying to attest like did you. Every morning is a mixture. Be able to smell the coffee that I make in like relieve when I when I have that sense of smell and I'm relieved when after taking my allergy medications. My nasal congestion has gotten better. What really gives me hope but really helps me to get through. Each day is seeing my colleagues. The nurses the doctors the paramedics the environmental services who cleaned the rooms in the hospital. They're showing up and doing their job and keeping the doors open so we could take care of people in our society and that that really gives me a lot of hope. Is there anything that we haven't talked about that folks listening in should know about a point that WanNa highlight is that we have this opportunity to fundamentally redesign our health care system and we are never going to go back to the old normal? And what are we going to do? Moving forward are we can do everything from redesign emergency rooms to make it safer for patients getting care that they're not exposed to Kovin or other viruses how we need to just change the financial incentives for hospitals so that we pay for public health that we pay for preparedness. Because there's going to be most likely a second wave happening in the fall in wintertime. And what are we going to do to prepare for that? I cannot stress enough to people that thousands of deaths that. We're seeing now are preventable. If we look at other healthcare systems across the world like Korea and Taiwan and New Zealand. Who did a much better job at being prepared and containing the virus that they have had far fewer deaths in our country. We really need to ask ourselves. What are we? GonNa do to promote our country. However you're not going to repeat the same mistakes that we've made and what are the changes that we're going to ask health systems in order to prevent thousands of dots. It upsets me. Every time I see a patient die every time I hear of a another colleague who has been infected with co vid colleagues mom who has died of Cova when I think of these debts when I think of these people getting affected. That many of these were preventable. This was an inevitable. We could have prevented a lot of the tragedy that we're currently seeing. And how do we move forward to not let this ever happen again? But right now you don't necessarily see if there's a next wave the comes in the winter that we haven't put things in place at least the you've seen yet that would make it different. I've seen a lot of creativity and hustle going on in my hospital in hospitals across the country. It impresses me but in order to deal with a pandemic of this size we need to have a federal national unified strategy. It can't be a piecemeal approach. We could have been better prepared. And that just looking at data from other health systems in other countries that they were able to test early they're able to contain they're able to socially distance. Their hospitals were better equipped with P P to protect health care workers but I have hope because this virus has not wiped out our country and that we are going to learn from our mistakes and that we are going to change our system in order to better protect our country and I think the way that why we have failed is is a direct result of how the financial incentives of our healthcare system healthcare was already broken. They're already fracture. Lines and the healthcare system the Cova crisis just exposed them what we've incentivize healthcare to operate on profitable procedures and operations and specialty outpatient visits and. I think it's crazy. That hospitals are shutting down in healthcare workers getting laid off and this public health crisis that does not make sense of. That's why a for profit system that exists with these financial incentives that cannot exist anymore it absolutely cannot so needs to be a redesign of how hospitals get paid. That narrative is coming through which is sad. I don't think we're seeing the images that we really need to see and those stories and because of that I think people the public on whole. I think they need that. They need that sort of emotional anchor to help them understand how serious this is how this ravaging so many people less question. How was your stamina? This has been going on a long time with a lot of stress for going on two months. I feel that the long hours of residency training have prepared me for enduring some of the sleep deprivation and exhaustion physical exertion the remedy for that. Is I try to sleep and I try to. Exercise that physical exertion. I've learned in my career how to handle and deal with I think many doctors nurses have what has been more difficult as the mental and emotional exhaustion. And that's something I I in. A lot of my colleagues are still trying to deal with. Normally we don't have that sort of mental and emotional stress so it's day by day Situation we I've been trying to reach out to colleagues checking on them. People have been checking in on me which has been great and I hope this is over soon and it just take it day by day. Well our our thoughts and our prayers are with you here in New York every day. At seven o'clock people go to their windows and they clap for essential workers and healthcare workers like you and I hope some of that Applause and appreciation is felt and has some impact. But we really appreciate all that you and your colleagues are doing and thanks for your time great. Thank you master. Scale rapid response is a wait. What original the show is recorded? Remotely using sanitized audio gear. It's hosted by me. Bob Sapp Masters Scales editor at large and Masters scale host. Reid Hoffman our executive producer. June Cohen and Darin trip are supervising producer is J. job. 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Did I made the mistake of telling these foods at work that the guy gave me the bracelet major break sleep that looks like from a guy in the steamrolling back in a asking questions from a plea they may stop in so sweet and pure so slimy and dangerous to naked men. Now we have this discussion. Will you understand room with other people you put on a towel you know? That's pretty much agreed right. Yes you're in there by yourself. So all right yeah you could say that you can be statement naked by other people in there you put you normally want to have a towel underneath. Don't slide off of that. No but you put you sit on one and you put one over you okay. At least I do only takes one. You know so anyway. That's how our podcast got. Its name also one of the things that if you've followed Chuck's TV career. You know that he is very fond of these three words. Marach Harry Song every day. I I've met Rob Lowe a few times in my life. That's a pretty man. First of all of Christmas carols thing. I don't even think kills thing first of all. I never used Paul come on. I'm serious first of all good. Fellows is probably one of my top five movies. You don't like it. Felt like I just love talking crack so those three words are first of all even if it's the fifth thing he's talking about. It's still first of all so we always be in the steam room podcast with Chuck's first of all what is it. What is it this week? Well my first of all this week about Kobe Bryant the Great Lakes Kobe Bryant and Bobby Knight. They're starting to be some negative backlash about how we our worship in. Colby sanded the wheel. We'll trying to sugarcoat everything that happened in his life and what I want to say is That was a great loss for the NBA family. But Kobe wasn't perfect and we weren't not trying to make him out to be perfect. And the reason I bring that up is the thing that happened at Indiana this week with Bobby Knight who I respect Bobby Knight Number One. He's the wanted greatest coaches ever and he graduated. His players and a lot of people were going in on him talking about. We're trying to you. Know People at Indiana try to whitewash sugar coat. Everything that happened in Bobby Knight's career but the point. I want to make about Kobe in coach night. Kobe was a great great basketball player. Coast night was a great great basketball coach but they will not perfect. None of us is perfect. You know you can have a friend and still acknowledged they had flaws. So that's that's my first of all like hey and none of us perfect. I'm with you. I think it's interesting because I think we've kind of faced the same situation we went out to la. Do the game that was cancelled yes again that was postponed and we had the guys on to talk about their remembrances of Kobe. And that was Jerry West. And that was Steve. Nash and DEF- Ish and Rick Fox and you and I had the conversation to as as we were over there. It's like when is it appropriate to bring up and people have brought it up. Kobe had to you know. Kobe ran into this issue in Colorado. And this was. This was a very serious allegation settled out of court settlement. I think it's important where you talk about that and I think you have to have a certain sensitivity. Obviously to to a family lost a father and husband and that. Kinda thing and we're never assuming or making the statement that no this guy had a perfect life because I tell you for all of us when time comes you can point to things so boy didn't handle that. Well this was this was wrong and for a guy like Bobby Knight Bobby Knight cut you. Didn't it yeah since you home the APP and so you say Oh man you can have this. This predisposed bent about man at Bobby. Knight would even bring his name up to me as I've talked to guys who know him very well and if said he's misunderstood that if you get to know him that he was this great guy but obviously there are things that happen to other people have said. Hey this can't happen. Yeah but two things can be true and it's the same thing about Kobe. Two things can be true. That's that's first of all and we're just getting started on steam room again. We thank you for being here. We encourage you to download the podcast. Wherever you get your podcast fun doing it from alive I. It's very clear since I've been born. I didn't eat any vegetables. Broccoli Broccoli. Laney Spinach back chokes. Asparagus doesn't know when you go to these salad place and they got like five different types of lettuce. I'm like no there's not by title. Just let us there are different. They're all the same. They're called lettuce. Kale chips are not a thing they are. But they're not your thing. I will say this nachos chilli cheese ground beef. Maybe some chicken type guy butter if you WANNA die EMAM. Also that's going on. No that's why I was going wrong. Yes food one of our favorite topics on the steam room. Podcast wrong with we welcome you back here to house of Blues and Chicago. Thank you all was a great food town man. This is restaurants in New York. This is the best for no come on and they just got a gazillion restaurants in New York Chicago has arguably some of the best food places in the world. If anybody knows quality of food around the world it would be you know. Be that way way to say. Look good way to cut me like this. So let's let's think about a couple of things that come to mind when you giving food in Chicago Chicago hotdogs yes and deep dish pizza and we happen to have examples of both here for him so this is so Portillo's for the dog. Here is a good call for the dog right. Yeah no catch. I never put ketchup on a hotdog. Anyone and this one this hotdog here jokester has got got. Everything's got jeffers. It's got tomatoes onions. What we've had this conversation they'll let you put 'em hotdogs. Chili onions onions on you. Don't you want to open your horizons a little bit to see this? Take a bite of a Chicago Triumph by Chicago. What kind of idiot puts a typical hot dog together? No doubt with them onions on it. I don't even know what the green crap is. Either kid ends on a hard one. Greatest being I'm not a big on your relish and spicy mustard guy. Reticence sucks right deep dish pizza. Earning and this was coming from Lou. Malnati's there's also there's also an. We appreciate them doing this. Giordano's is is a good spot to Ernie just there last night as pizza guy. I'm all eat deep dish pizza deep. The Guy I'm not gonNA lie why I like thin crust. That being said proper to good Joan you could eat every time I come to Chicago cubs game. Whether I'm coming for this. I always make that first night. I gotta go to Jordan and this is again. They don't have enough stuff on it. What's the ideal sausage? Need More Net. Like sometimes you got sausage pepperoni size in Green Olive. So now you're adding renal. I Love Green Olives but most restaurants don't have black olives by greenhouse I- mushrooms. No never never never fairly common topic. I never I would never be the Muslim. How about pineapple morning did that simply for his reaction green around the house. Just eat off the jar. I love and hate restaurants that only have black olives knocking. You have only black olives just stupid. What's what's the winner here. You're voting for the pizza or the dog walk. Get my dog my way my way. I put a pickle on a hot dog Chicago Dog. Oh so what's your Tago dog or deep dish pizza. What would you go to dog? But I'd fixing my weight. No you'd have to eat it their way way. You're no that's the deal you gotta Eat Chicago Dog not just a Dog. Chicago dog or a deep dish Bishop. Kogyo came the Pixel and pepper dog. How can I ever get a straight answer? I'd go with the pizza kits away since then. This is so awesome and we do have a couple pieces left or somebody wants a couple pieces here. Come on up take this back. Don't eat the one the chuckers beneath. I'm not even gonNA offer the dog because I saw what he did to problems. It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things? Bend things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm DOT com slash. Smart to learn more. Can you imagine a world filled with folks wearing the steam room bathrobe as as nicely as Tim? Kylie are longtime producer. You Really Dan Marino. He'll let me tell you. Something tucked away. Pat Holmes was throwing the ball round. He reminded me of my teammate. And my friend Dan Marino. I if I had a dollar for every time you drop Dan Marino's name. I'd have extra ten fifteen million dollars. Dan You WANNA found serious Respol or the very first guest speaker. You know that right. I did not know that Jake. Tapper Obscene Cerny. You may or may not know this but I I met Charlton in a Wendy's. There's a pretty good chance of that. Jimmy rollins joining us. How about the damage to the game of baseball itself scandal is never good. Bring is with these. These are the wrong type of is better performance Charles in space jam for you in a Spin Tura pet detective beers no doubt me playing in a way. Yes so on The steam room we have had numerous guest through the seven up so here we are in episode eight and In his hometown of Chicago Isaiah. Thomas joins us here all star weekend at the House of Blues? It is good to see you earn. Is it good to be here are you? Are you honored to be in the Steam Room and honored to be in a steam room? And I don't WanNa know bracelets bracelets you know I'm good. What's it like? I mean growing up in one of the greatest cities in the world. Coming back you've had one of the most amazing lives ever and you get to comeback. You probably see some old friends today. At one of the events I met a girl who was in fourth grade with me and she looked at me and she goes. I can't believe you remembered me. I was like well. You just remember all your your childhood friends and everything else that you grew up with. Because that's all I really. I mean my best friends in life are still my high school friend. Wow My high school grade school friends. Those are the people that you know. Love grew up with and stole some food with. What's your first memory of picking up a basketball? I was maybe three four years ago and Ross him not little toddlers at that now crossing them up. I was tripping but no I was. I was maybe three or four years old in my older brothers. Used to go to the playground to play. And we'd have babysitters or anything like that. So you had to go with him and every now and then they will let you get out on a court and shoot and but teacher out of trouble and I remember in fourth fifth grade. I learned how to dribble so good. That brother Lexus. Who was the grade school coach at that time? Allow me to be a layup line and also I was like the Halftime Entertainment. Like on ruined doing driven juice. Yeah Hey you know the one thing that amaze me about your career. What what what happened to your team on the Pistons? Y'All went from being only office of team to one of the greatest defensive teams because people get that because everybody have y'all esther bad boys is one physical defensive teams ever but at one point you guys try to outscore everybody. Yeah wh what happened? And who changed at mentality check daily? I mean we. We started out as being the highest scoring team in the NBA. And we still owed a record for the most points ever scored in the NBA game. Which is one hundred and eighty six the first free throw one eighty six one eighty one Denver Denver yes and actually chuck came from from Philadelphia after after he got fired. In Cleveland. Came to the Pistons and you know we were up and down and I never forget he was like. We can't win this way if the heyday of the of the bad boys. When you're winning championships. How would the contenders today? Fair against your tape on in in all honesty. Not just the. We'd take we'd sweep them or they do you know the they'd play three games. Let me let me say they'd sweep them. No no no. No no what. I'm going to say I think that's unfair question. Why why because you would have to. First of all would be suspended. Ten fifteen so the reason. I think that I I hate to comparisons because these teams that they could not have played at our day. She's not me from a talent standpoint. I'm from physicality scale for how you can play the game. These you imagine little Steph Curry. Who's a great player? Can you imagine if the bad boys have been hitting him like they did Michael Jordan broken? I'm just saying this is why I couldn't play with Charles. Because he's a good teammate. He saw that you were lead me down a bad road team. Martine may jumped in. It was like nause. I got this question. He had part of it now. No answer the question again as I said it all depends on the rules that we play by but if if we had to play by these rules we would still be effective and I still think we would dominate. And I and I know we win championships hell if I can win championships. In Era I know I can win championships in this era. Not to say that this is a bad era but the ruse favorite the big guys in my era. All the rules were set up for the closer. You get to the basket the more chances you have the win now. The rules favored point guards in the point. Guards get the play and schouten score and run up and down and if I was getting one hundred and eighty six and that era. I know I can get a team together to get one hundred and eighty six in this. And you know what's funny to you? Know we used to watch you guys play and see the pick and pop with lamb beer and he asked me and it was like how can you have a guy that big out there shooting those long jumpers and now everybody in the League? Who's I mean everybody shoots it? It's that kind of a drastic change said daily again. I have to give him a lot of credit for selling us that we can win a championship clam pick and roll basketball because back then you had to have the dominant post player in. Even Jordan was probably one of the greatest post players in our era because he had to turn around the fade in a triple post and everything else but we always lambie will pop out shoot a three or shoot a- too and he was heavily criticized because he didn't have a post game. I think Barclay hit him in the face one night because he didn't have a post game. I can you imagine if the Houston Rockets of today plan with asthma. They don't even have a sinner own team. Can you imagine those guys walking out trying to win a basketball game in the eighties nineties? It wouldn't happen you know. We talked earlier about and we talked about earlier. You said some this weekend. We all walk coz night out. You got goosebumps year. There was no greater feeling. I think for all of us as his former players then to see him reunited back with the university but to be able to stand by what we You know the I in Indiana and the Moore floor and have the student body. Check your name and it was definitely a goosebumps kind of moments. I mean you just you just got cheerios. Where like yours like whoa. And it was beautiful. Truly words are never in my life. Forget that moment. It's it's been great spending time with you first. Time since eighty eight that the all star game is here in your hometown of. Chicago is thirty two years believable. And so I don't know what else you've got going on this week. Perhaps a kindergarten reunion with some of these other folks that you remember from back then but enjoy every second back here in your hometown man and I definitely will and it's always thank you. It's always an honor appreciate how might team eighty s grip visit from second city. This is this is fixing beget hilarious. Steam Room our love to do our entire show one night and Spanish. I'M GONNA make an executive decision for TNT. Yeah how about we showed Super Bowl. Do you get in the Christmas spirit. Do not organic is not a thing. It's the only thing thing about organic is the price. Curling is not a thing called dusting dust. People complaining about the Peleton commercial members. It's an honor to be nominated unless you lose excellent point the steam room podcast continues from the House of Blues in Chicago. All Star weekend. Yes a large and enthusiastic audience or you can call them on employed. I don't know my mind was on Mary. Catherine curren and Jordan. Sousa are here. They are with second city. I didn't realize this second city started in one thousand nine hundred fifty nine correct. That's right and so this and it's it's a comedy place but it's also kind of comedy state of mind. It's kind of like when you say second city is just this. It covers the IMPROV world. And nobody does it better. Which is the cool thing. Because there's so much history to the second say like obligated nine hundred fifty nine but there's a great educator. Mvp Viola spoiling who used her theatre games for kids. Who used it and her son. Paul Sill unisource games to create the second city that was based on improvisation in December. We had our sixty th anniversary so even here for a while and I think about all of the the alums everybody looks at like the Saturday night live crew for so many years it was just this constant stream of his second city grads. Earn or whatever you WANNA call them so. There is that rich history to live up to. Is there not only for sure I mean? On the walls of the theater there quotes from Rachel draft. Tina fey and Steve Carell. And it's a it's a crazy thing but it definitely is an honor to be performing on that stage every night Tuesday through Sunday. So it's eight shows a week which is a lot and we are not there but they squeeze aid shows and we make it work. So it's it's a wonderful thing and we love to do it and there's nothing quite like performing in front of a live audience. It's just. It's invigorating every night. Do you really not know. Sometimes what you what you are going to do. Is it totally like they'll throw out topics? Okay do this. You don't have any inkling not usually I mean we do is seen in the show where every night they get suggestions and I have to guess what their suggestions are and they're doing sure aides to help me guess but it's different every night and it's always You know everyone asks. Are you cheating? Are you cheating? Because sometimes I get them pretty quickly. But I'm always out in the lobby waiting and I never know and when people yell out suggestions to us. We never know what we're going to get so it's different. I've been blessed the whole Saturday night. Live a few times. Have you ever had a laugh and fit in the middle of something and sometimes we try to we do? We do have a lot of fun. Improvising making stuff up over and over again so something. We'll catch us. Just we can't stop laughing share. I mean there's been times where both of us have have lost it. We have a lot of fun up there. Yeah how big were. The Butterfly was the first time you took the stage huge. It was just a part of the the main stage casts and then that first night that it's happening yeah it was just so much fun and then we did it again and then I was better. I've asked my. I've got some friends who are comedians. And they said they hate when people walk terms the sun to make me laugh out like y'all with friends like hey said something to make me laugh constantly usually lift drivers that people take your way to work like you. Give me a joke and I'll say now you got to pay me for that for free ending don't you why don't you can you? Can you give us a like a lesson or drill or something to see if we have any kind of any kind of training that would say? Oh Yeah you've got what it takes to do Improv. I see you talk all the time. You guys definitely go. Yeah I mean I saw you eat a cookie from your head into your mouth and to me. That's there's nothing more than yesterday and then your head in your mouth. The stuff that we do at the second city is based solely on improvisation. Which is the idea of Sam? Whatever you give us we all just say yes to it. Accept it and then we'll add something to it. We could give an example of that right now so Jordan would say something to me the vampires. You'RE GONNA get us. Oh yes and I'm GONNA have to get my stakes out because I don't want to be a vampire and maybe maybe this is the time for us to renew our vows and then like that so so if I were to say something to you like. Hey let's go to the beach and then you would say oh. Do I need sunscreen or do I need a Speedo? See I'M GONNA STOP? You right there now. So you're asking a question and Improv. We don't want to ask a question we want to say yes and so if I were to say hey. Let's go to the beach you'd say i. Yes I'm gonNA bring from Suntan Lotion and I should bring a snack. Yes and I'll go ahead and get the boombox so it can listen sweet tunes while we're on the beach. What sweet told asked agree and add to it? Okay yeah usually questions then can lead you towards an argument or which you know after we've been doing it for a while we will. We will throw in some conflict into our IMPROV. But when we're starting out if we're agreeing and adding something that's always going to be better for our partners so if I were to start something with Charles so chuck I understand. You've got a new speedo and it's an extra small. Yes and I don't want to embarrass you at the beach. Ernie that's very thoughtful of you but I also understand that you have a thongs but thongs meaning the flip. Flops that are that are really big. Ernie yes yes big shoes and you know a big shoes. Earning yes I do. It means small small speedo and yes Ernie Small Speedo because you only got a rubber band peanut shells to embarrass you at the beach. That's why I love you. Intensity where the address of Second City Sixteen Sixteen North Wells. Because we'RE GOING TO BE THERE. I'll see you that's tonight. We're in the show right now. Do you believe in madness running for ever. You believe in madness. We work with we work for. Tnt guys thank you so much educational for us. We have much admiration really. I mean you guys. I know it's fertile ground for comics. You're going to see him become household names and and I'm certainly hoping that yours will be to folks for us. Doctors more steam room straight ahead live from Chicago com problems. It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things? Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays food safety smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm DOT com slash. Smart to learn more in this age of technology and great advance. And it's it's always nice to have a final segment that revolves around the old answering machine. In this case Chuck's answering Machine Barclay leave a methods America local now on the other day getting a manicure. Pedicure argued a manny pity every week or any. Pots called nails for males. Chuck Man. I JUST WANNA know. Can you grow hair? Actually grow hair on the outskirts of town in downtown. I got a big hole in my head. What kind of clone do you wear smell? Good looking you smell. Good put it on. I spread in the air and walk into it and with that we welcome you back to the yard. Final segment of the room. I got some big news for you. Do you really. What is that I use net flicks for the first time? This is a major breakthrough out. And what you watch Netflix Aaron Hernandez Story A man. That dude has issues. I'm on I'd been trying to Steve. Fiorello trying to get me to use netflix. For four years. And you know I'm not a technology I finally use net flicks. I got a recommendation for you on net flicks you. Why are you you? It's two seasons and it's called you. Why are you anybody seeing? You got all right. I'm still eating this deep dish in two hands so we normally end the show as you heard as we came in with Chuck's answering machine and we get some random questions so we thought since we're live in front of a live studio audience here or live House of Blues Audience We'll just take a couple of live questions okay. So we don't have the answering machine. We have live folks here. What is your name? And what is your question? I didn't Savan first of all. It's great to see you guys out of your in Chicago. Thank you brother. Hey Chuck I know it's your so I got you a little present. Yes you don't know if he wants to. That's pretty awesome brother. Thank you I had to. I had to about come bring gifts. We always welcome. You got a question yes so it's kind of a basketball question. Ernie you can spend on this to all time starting five well. The five greatest basketball players in my opinion no position Michaels to Greatest Oscar Robertson Bill Russell Kareem and we'll chamberlain. Those are the five greatest basketball players ever so they are Melissa. And then I got Koby Lebron Tim Dunkin Jerry West Magic Bird. Give me into those five. I'm good that sounds good to me. I mean you can debate that all day and then everybody no matter who you put in that five. You're going to get somebody who says you're crazy. How can you save museums? He is and he has these numbers. But it's all subjective. Do we have time for one more. Yes Sir all right Marissa from Gary Indiana watching you all but behind the scenes. We see a lot of funny things. My question is. What's the biggest beef between two this? Maybe on air off air that you've got into. We know what you were shocked to all the time. Earning Ernie almost kill me one night. I didn't realize how important Ernie notes word to him because there is even though we act like crazy. There is a format that he has written down on. When we do this when we gotta go to commercials and was coming up next and one night I tore it up. So here's a deal. So basically I boil down this format. The producer puts out an on these index. Cards all have. We're GONNA talk box clippers there and I might have a couple of stats on. Somebody made up a couple of things. So I've written this stuff down researched it and then Kenya commercial break says dear to prepaid cards up and I thought they were kidding Charles restore and rip them up and I swear Matt Ben and I didn't say anything just kind of look at it was. I can't believe you did that. All we're just kidding around. And so the next segment. I didn't let him talk so I talked to Kenny. A little bit here every time you know. We don't have time for that so I tried to. I tried to freeze them out of a segment. But I'm never touches not dude. I was this close to throwing hot coffee right on. I was just I was like I can't believe you do that. And he really had no appreciation for it. It was basically basically saying. I don't care about any work you've done for the show. It's all about me shot. You know so that was it was pissed the one thing that drives me crazy about Ernie is Ernie is hilarious. And he says things as police said on the air. He's there's no way I'm saying that on the air but he's got a great sense of humor but that's all the time we got into. When I toyed notes about never touches notes again. Thank you very much now before we go in an earlier episode of the Steam Room. We played an answering machine message from a young man and Australia. Who IMPLORED US TO HELP? Raise awareness for the devastating bushfire crisis in Australia. Chuck as we talk. You were adamant about US getting involved and I think it's it's the time we found the perfect sponsor to partner up with this effortle. Stephen is an founders. Ceos okay you might notice. Is that bracelet? That Charles Gotten the steamer tell people find balance in their life staying humble highs and hopeful to the lows we believe that giving brings balance recently donated one hundred twenty five thousand dollars to Australian fire relief efforts to the support of the Australian. Loci you can head to locate dot com. That's L Okay. Dot Com to find a costs that were sports team. That means something to you and for this weekend. Only use code steam room for fifty percent discount. Yeah Fifty Percents Charleston. Jane thank you guys for your support and partnership we thank. Stephen is in LOCI for their commitment. Thank you man. Ten percent of all LOCI net profits go to charity and to be a partner in this. We had Turner Sports. It'd be contributing an extra ten thousand dollars to the relief effort home. And that was awesome from a nip and I I always wear mine you know they send us a couple and we saw who was it can a cameras big and so it reminds you to stay humble and stay hopeful and here we go. Here's one that they have sent us here and there's another gas go to LOCI. Yeah please thank you my brother. Thank you all for being here today. It's been our pleasure. Steamer podcast here in Chicago and We look forward to all star weekend. And we'll see you next time. This was episode eight next time. We'll be episode nine. Thank you chuck problems? It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things? Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with. Ibm On everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm DOT COM slash smart to learn more.

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