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Effectively Wild Episode 1436: Reviewing the Regular Season

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1436: Reviewing the Regular Season

"Yup Yeah hello and welcome to episode fourteen thirty six effectively wild baseball podcast from fan graphs brought to you by Patriot supporters. I'm MEG rally you live from the desert and I joined as always by Ben Lindberg of the ringer. Then how are you. I'm doing well. How are you in preparing to feel some feelings. uh-huh boarding this on Thursday Felix's making his final start as a mariner and I'm pretty cry. You never know you never know now that I'm prepared to have some feelings about it so you're at the Arizona Fall League which I will ask you but what does that mean for your Felix viewing situation the situation. How are you going to take in this game. Well oddly enough right before we started recording. It started raining here. Yeah no kidding yeah. They're spent some very dramatic weather. I I would feel bad about bringing rain to the desert but everyone down here seems very appreciative. I have to get the moisture which I suppose surprising so I think that I will likely watch the game on my laptop in my airbnb and resume folly actions actions morrow evening so that I can finish finish writing a piece about it for a fan graphs tomorrow so that's with a glass of wine some sort of sedative just in case things get things will get like true to true to Seattle Forum. I at the local natural food market here in Scottsdale. I purchased a kind of High A. B. Okay so I will be having one of those. I imagine I guess you have to rate so you probably have does your serves. You know it's one of those things where they do say that sometimes writing tipsy is fine if you edit sober but since wants. I ended up doing the editing sure I'm going to have to Higgins's can can edit sober but this podcast so exactly so I'll often keep my wits about me and just ride the emotional waves of well expected to talk to you after that start and now we're talking before it instead so I can't ask you how it went but we will people to read about it after the fact and and I'm sure that you will describe your mental and emotional state fair so I won't have you. You spoil it now and reflect on the whole career because that's probably what your post is going to be about yeah all right. What are you hoping for. I mean obviously you're hoping for like some throwback uplifting Prime Felix sort of start but are you at least realistically hoping for just like a quality start does it even adder start is really. I just I just would prefer that. It not be bad. I just would rather not be bad. It doesn't need to be you know. I'm pretty a clear eyed about where Felix is. I think you know when you start doing this professionally. It can it has a funny effect on your Phantom which is is not a novel thought but people have asked if you can maintain some kind of fandom and still be a an objective baseball writer and I think when you're a mariners fan. It's really early easy to do that because they're just they're just bad often just bad and so you look at it them and you're like hey. This is a bad baseball team. I like them anyway. I like I like a lot of things that suboptimal and this is one of them but when it comes to Felix you just hope that he just wanted to be able to walk out and like he's GonNa get got a standing ovation no matter what but you want it to feel like he should right like I would be happy with like a five inning inning. You know two three Ron couple. A strike outs SORTA deal. I think that's probably what the best case scenario looks like but who knows maybe we'll get something a little bit more special than that as long as they get to put up a couple of case on the king's court at least just. GonNa get shut out in that. Let's start which Ah yes that hasn't happened to this year as lousy as his season has been. He is not at a start with zero strike at so that's true it is funny a and I meant to look this up before we started recording and then forgot to you but it is sort of funny that he is going against against the as he's had such luck against them as a franchise over the course of his career and so there is something sort of poignant. I guess about the final start especially at home coming against them. I was GonNa say a AH game with playoff implications not Felix but for the Asian Sean Monnaie who's starting for them and the next time he pitches will probably be a wildcard game. I F if if all goes well for the as so I guess this is the match up as the punt at this point the Mariners and Felix not a bad way to end your season when we're trying to win every game about four-game set against the mariners but there's something more at stake here than just the emotional stuff although there's a lot of that too yeah yeah so that will be sort of fascinating and I hope for the best by the time people are hearing this. They probably already know how it turned out so I kind of think like if people talk about playing spoiler for teams in this situation. I don't know whether that's something that would motivate Felix in this position at all. I personally can't imagine imagined myself really getting much happiness out of spoiling someone else his playoff run if I am already eliminated from the playoffs which maybe is because I'm just like not wired the way the baseball players are not competitive in quite the same way that they are but to me. It feels like almost mean spirited. It's like well we we don't get to go so we're going to stop you from going anyway and it's like unless you have some specific grudge against that team by hurting this one team. You're only helping out another team. It's not like you can prevent everyone from hiccup layoffs because if you don't get to be happy no one else does so. It's sort of zero seven game so that the whole old idea of spoiler like unless there's maybe a natural rivalry involves like this weekend for instance that the cubs of course are playing the cardinals and maybe there's Sir something at stake there even though the cardinals just cleaned the clubs clock in her now home unaided themselves but that kind of thing just even when I was a fan I mean when I was a fan the Yankees. He's won the world series every year so I never really think about spoiler but I think even in that situation I just wouldn't really be motivated by the idea of ruining some other fed basis day it doesn't it doesn't strike me as particularly resonant experience either. I mean I have been you know sort of deeply enthralled in in like you know a rivalry and defeating that rival on your way to something like the mariners offered not a ton half great examples of this you know it meant something to me even as a child to have the mariners defeat the Yankees in ninety five like that felt sure that felt like a an accomplishment but it was an accomplishment right it was great. It was them advancing through the play offs and and doing what they needed to you know. It just reads a little differently but I don't no perhaps I'm sitting here in in what is now rainy. Arizona removed from the moment perhaps giving myself more credit for not indulging in Pettiness S. than I deserve but yeah I agree. It's not quite it's it's not it's certainly not the same as as getting to defeat a rival for your own purposes in order to a sort of further your own playoff aspirations for example yeah so we'll leave it at that. I guess well Mariners did have mercy on Zach Ricky at least did not put him through the hassle of pitching a no hitter against them so I enjoyed very much. I watched I was sort of bouncing between games last night. because obviously there are a number of them that had sort of important playoff implications and so. I came into that like the inning that he gave up you know in the night when he gave up the the no hitter and there was on the astros broadcast are replayed that focused just on his face when the hip felon and it didn't change his face didn't change his face ace was completely the same from start to finish. It's like you don't know where in the highlight the hit actually fell and so he's just a delightful. Weirdo and we should appreciate cranky. More on record has not really wanting to throw a no hitter just not worth the trouble fassel. What a what a Guy Speaking speaking of playoff implications. I was GONNA say that at this time of year I enjoy looking at friend of the show Dan her shes site baseball gauge because he has a stat on their called held championship win probability which expresses in percentage points just how much a certain play or a certain players contribution. Shen swung his team's chances of winning the world series and at this time of year when you look late in the regular season when there are some pennant races you start seeing the highest championship win probability added figures of the whole regular season appearing on those leader boards and so for instance since we're speaking about as their air big home run that they got from Matt Chapman on Wednesday when they were down by run against the angels in the ninth inning and Chapman hit two run shot to give them the lead and ultimately the win that is the second biggest hit of the season or second biggest play of the season according to championship win probability added the only the need higher rated play. Thus far is Ryan Bronze Grand Slam on September fifteenth not to be confused with Ryan Runs Grin. Slim this week which you in the game that the Brewers clinched their playoff spot but the one on September fifteenth which was in a similar situation to the Chapman homer where I think it was like two outs in the ninth against the cardinals and it was the go ahead chat and the brewers a came. It looked like they were going to lose. The actual figures are not that hype. I te because this is again championship win probability added. It's your odds of winning a world series and obviously your odds go up quite a bit if you make the playoffs as opposed to. I'm not making the playoffs but the odds are still against you because there's a big playoff field so these two plays that I just mentioned only added about one percentage point to their respective teams odds of winning the world series but that's still a lot when you think of how inconsequential most plays in the regular season our and this is is obviously you could look at it and say well every game counts the same in every win matters as much and that is true in a sense this is just looking at how much these plays swung teams playoff odds at that moment so there may have been a big hit in the first week of the season or something that ultimately lately affected their place in the standings as much as Chapman's homer but in April you're not gonNA get a big swing in playoff probability from Sharyngol game whereas now that we we know what the odds are we can look and just see with a few games left that team has to win x number of games etc you can quantify that and so I think that is obviously like analytically questionable but it very much matches up with what a fan feels as you watch these games and these plays and what as fans felt felt when Chapman hit that homer and what Peruvians felt when Brun hit that homer so I enjoy that one of my favorite parts of the end of the regular season for anyone who's curious. It's the biggest championship win. Probability added hit of all time I believe is how Smith's three run home run in game seven of the nineteen sixty st world series. Everyone talks about the bills Russky Homerun in that same game. That was the tenth biggest hit of all time of the house. Smith one had a championship Egypt win. Probability added of sixty three percentage points that Kinda put that game away his so. That's about as big as it's ever. GonNa get obviously in game seven of the world series of sewer. We're talking about small numbers right now but still a big relative to what's happened over the past six months or so. It's a nice time time of year because you know once we get into October. Everyone's watching the same games and that that's always a nice feeling right because at any given time during the course of the regular season you have you know fans of. I don't know how many marlins fans are but like you have fans of all thirty teams. They're engaged in their own small. You know local all interests and then when we walked over everyone's watching the same stuff and this time of year occupies this really nice in between where we all are kind of watching the same the things but there are still more things than we can comfortably watch at any given time and you still have the delight of getting an bat notification that something exciting has happened in the game. I am you happen to be watching in that particular moment because you're paying attention to this other thing that matters a great deal and so I just I don't know I really like this time of year. It just is it's thrilling in a way that is sort of a very nice inbetween emotional register from the craziness of the postseason and sort of the Ho- ho that doc. I did that thing for days ago. I totally missed that of the regular season. Yeah I wish Felix had gotten to be on the other side of that at some point in his career his time I'm with the mariners and I don't think it tarnishes anyone's opinion of how great pitcher he was in the way that say a team failing to make the playoffs a team might win ninety games and missed the playoffs offs and we won't even really remember that that team had a semi successful season with a player certainly postseason success can elevate his reputation but I don't know if never making the the playoffs can really count as a strike against you. The only thing that's hurt Felix's reputation how he's pitched and how he's aged but well. You're probably going to read about that. Is this is a thing that I have thought about a lot in the last couple of weeks. especially as teams have sort of solidified their you you know their playoff positions league when the brewers secured their playoff spot among the bengals. GonNa play and the postseason like he's GonNa make that postseason roster roster than Gamble Gamble will have playoff innings in the fields non on the mound in a couple of weeks man a couple of weeks of feelings conventions required reading about it so following up on our conversation from last week about the audacity of requesting home runs from the players and players promising those runs much to my surprise I went to mlb dot com and happened to see this headline till as honors young fans wish with two homer game rowdy to les- So I've read the story a couple of times and it seems like there's some conflicting accounts in here from different sources sources and I can't quite figure out whether this was a request from a five year old boy here who had had some heart problems and he's developed some sort of relationship with to lessen it's very nice and heartwarming that they've made that connection and I can't quite clarify whether the kid actually asked to less to hit a home run or two two home runs or whether to let just promised him that he would just volunteered that information to less said. I promised him three and I failed. I assume he was kidding. I I'm not sure what kind of nerve does it take either to request home runs from rowdy to less or to be rowdy to lease and guarantee home runs and then took delivered not just one but to the story describes to less as a slugger which I guess you can call me slugger because he's hit twenty. One home runs ends in a partial season. This year granted everyone has but you could calm slugger because he is kind of an all or nothing guy like he's a below average hitter the season despite all those dinger's but yeah it seems like something that we've probably defined at some point in the show's history but point is this is not Aaron Judge Asia promising a a home run. This is not babe ruth promising a home run. This is rowdy to less. I don't know how often rowdy less guarantees home runs but this time time at least he delivered may have delivered double so I don't get it but it keeps happening. I am mostly shocked as I look at his player. Beja Fan graphs that he is not yet twenty five to bits. He is not yet twenty five years old if you you told me he was forty. I believe it and I don't mean that as an icon rowdy like your professional baseball player doing better Niamh but if someone said actually we've learned that he lied the whole time and he's forty. I believe Aright Lamesa a certain amount of sense. It's just to me that the the level of of confidence required to be even a rowdy to level baseball player is just so much greater than anything I will ever be able to which even my entire life 'cause yeah. It's an that's an audacious promise. I wonder if he felt bad about it. After and then was very relieved or if he was just confident event. I can't decide which is better confidence in my life. Never in my whole life anyway did not expect to see the guy who would be the next homerun guarantee who could actually deliver so that's good for him. He actually we says in the story. I guess he was asked about reaching the milestone of hitting twenty home runs and he says hitting twenty is special and I was I was thinking is it is it. Is it specialist anymore when you hit twenty because as we speak one hundred twenty eight guys have hit twenty this year and by the time when people listen to this it may be more so it's a lot less special than it used to be but on the other hand it is pretty special to be in the big leagues at all and to hit even a single homer and to hit twenty is go season. It is pretty special in the grand scheme of things less special in relative sense than it once was but it's still up there. Ah It's still an accomplishment right. It's a thing that you can let fleet. That's the thing you you tell people. When you go to your high school reunion like you're like I not only was as I had twenty? One dares people are going to. I promised kids yeah. People are gonNA. Look at you and be like how you really made something of himself. That rowdy worked worked out for him. What a great name. Just let's just an eighty name. Maybe not his given name. I don't know I don't want want to investigate it. I would prefer that his he was born and his mother looked upon him and said rowdy seems. I just looked it up and I really regret it. Okay Okay Yeah. That's how much character Ryan John. I'll now. Yes terrible no well. I'm glad he went with rowdy good jobs. Oh my so last time semi spoke about what we love about baseball and I regretted that you were not there to give your road two cents about that so I know you listen to it. I don't know if you want to echo or add to anything. We said you have your own reasons which may overlap with ours but perhaps not. I liked very much what you had to say about what I like parts. I liked all of your both of your answers but there are there are parts of both of your answers. That really struck a chord with me. I agree with Sam that the ability of baseball sort of elevate otherwise sort of pedestrian moments just by virtue of its presence and sort of routine is really lovely. I also listen listen to League Games on the radio and I'm taking care of the garden or whatever and it's the sort of accessible inquiry that we have have into baseball where we are able to ask kind of tricky questions but generally arrive at answers or parts of answers they think is a big part of but I mean for me. I think the baseball is one of the rare sort of pursuits where you get to marry rigor and windy in the same thing right it lends itself well to both and I think benefits from having both things sort of in equal measure rate because if it's Paul Whimsey it can it can get a little saccharin and if it's all rigor it can get a bit dull and if it's both things it's really quite special because you get to experience such a range of not only emotions but sort of intellectual pursuits while you're engaged with this thing and I think because of that it helps us to I don't know like you said understand other things about ourselves. In the world beyond baseball right it gives a very easy and accessible way to grapple with serious questions ends but also to step back from them when you need to and enjoy yourself and I think that this is you know. This isn't something that's unique to baseball writers. The the intensity of it is perhaps a little bit different than it is just for fans but I think it's true with fans. Also that you get to you just get to meet cool folks as a result of engaging with this sport. You know I have this will be a threat in my felixstowe also like they're just people in my life who I I really genuinely love and can't imagine sort of getting through the hell scape without and I know them because of baseball and you know I'm sure that there would be other people who I would feel similarly about if there were a different thing that sort of got me excited to reach the the end of the day ain't get unwind in front of it but it's very I think because of how much time we spend with it over the course of the the fund months of the year where we're sort of most inclined to engage with other people because it isn't darkened dreary and we want to be out and about experiencing the world just grabs you in a very particular you're kind of way and I think that the other people who are similarly moved you know you can find a real sense of fellowship with those folks so I just that combination of things is really early has really quite special so I don't think that's why I like it. Even though I have elected to be a fan of franchise that often makes me quite sadder outer frustrated I guess it's a testament to the power of the other things that hey not only wanted to keep engaging with it as a hobby but felt compelled to think about it fulltime so it's a cool thing. It's a good question. I got very nervous. I knew I knew that you would make me answer it. So I had to listen to your guises answers answers you know rounds of things behind because of travel and whatnot but I was driving around looking for coffee. Today was listening to you. You guys talk about it. It's a good answer. Give some thought to this. How has your AFL experience been an. I guess we should explain for people who are not as plugged into the prospect worlds with ears. NFL League actually as right so far league which is now officially aptly name. You know there are a couple the days there at the beginning of fall league because schedule got moved up where it was folly but not in the fall I felt bad about but it's it's an opportunity for some of the better prospects mostly prospects around baseball to play more baseball and is search for you know for them. It's an opportunity to play against competition in extend their seasons for scouts and opportunity to see other organizations is players all in one place and for me. You know I obviously am not doing any of the heavy lifting with drafting prospect lists that task falls to Eric in Kylie but it seemed like I would be able to offer more reasonable in substantive feedback if I saw more of the guys who they're going to end up ranking obviously not everyone who ends up on a fan graphs prospectless plays in the folly but a lot of the headliners do so rather than just moving commerce around. I thought I'd come down and see what it's is all about and I have enjoyed. I've enjoyed it a great deal it. Is You know it's lightly attended. It is a very interesting mix of folks. There are a lot of scouts and other industry people floating around but there are fans who come to all league and engage with colleagues some of whom I would imagine many of whom are local but some of them travel and it's just a it's just kinda relaxed you know they're of the Games that I've gone to so far. The the highest attendance that was announced was around eight hundred people so these are not hugely well attended events. You can hear individual fans responding responding to things in a way that is sometimes very delightful on on Friday Friday when I arrived there was one he sounded like a phillies fan who was just having having a an ongoing dialogue with the home plate. Umpire River which Salt River field is is testing the Robo trump's so I got see the Robo experience live which I will have to write about at some point the the latency I imagine imagine is not noticeable to casual fan but was noticeable to me in a way that I found kind of distracting at least initially but this poor this borough was getting just railed on by a phillies fan and he was in column balls and strikes. It was my worst nightmare realized I wonder how long it will take for like everyone to be clued in that umpire's of not actually making the calls anymore so really don't matter I the matter will it be like years because if you're just like a casual fan and yelling at umpires something that you think everyone does and you've always done Unin. You're not paying attention to the new technology and you don't know that they're rubin appears. Like how many years will it take until everyone in the ballpark understands that Oh right the empires not actually influencing this call and we'll leave him that changed them or will they just yell because you can't really yell at a computer and that guy's standing there. I wonder wonder if the the sort of more humane balance that will end up striking is that fans will become very invested in check swing calls and so the home plate empire will no longer bear the brunt of of the bridge but man those those first and third base umpires. They better be on their game. I wonder if that'll be the direction it stars. I meant to say by the way that one of the pleasures of scouting I guess you could call it that sort of what I was doing when I went to the AFL AFL because I was at Scott school primarily to write about it but also to go through the exercise seriously not with an eye toward being a scout like most of the people there but just to experience that side of things and I enjoyed going it was sort of low stakes for me because I wasn't actually angling for a career in that field field but it was kind of Nice to see these guys at that level and be able to maybe for some sort of found this for them like seeing them in this place place before they get big and there are a lot of big prospects of course the AFL attracts a lot of premium players but I enjoyed seeing some of these guys this when they were kind of under the radar and hoping that like one day I'd be able to say oh I saw that guy when he was in the AFL leak and now he's an all star or an MVP VP or something and I found myself getting attached to these guys in a way that if I were an actual talent evaluator who is seeing players in person and giving a lot of weight to the test I would wanna be wary of course when you're seeing someone in a small sample than maybe you see them. Play particularly really well and you can get unreasonably excited about them in my case I have no illusions that I am actually great at evaluating players seeing them in person but like I remember are forming a a prospect crush on this cubs infielder named Gaspar Amaya at the time was a twenty dear old second baseman coming off a season where he had a six ninety eight up yes in April and currently he is a twenty six year old second Baseman Baseman who is coming off a season in which he has six forty two up yes in double a ball so things have not really worked out as I envisioned them. I Guess Car Amaya but at the time for whatever reason I thought he looked pretty good and I went back to my hotel room and as I wrote about at Grantland at the time I talked to a couple of people in the game and asked them if I was seeing something that wasn't there. They said no yeah he's good. You're you're right to to like him and ultimately I guess I wasn't really and I hadn't seen the stats either so I had no idea what his history was. Where came from what kind of season he had had an so when I went back to the room I'd like looked up the stats and it was like Oh maybe maybe not a top prospect but I still had that sort of experience of like divorcing myself from what I know. Oh and being able to enjoy seeing something in the moments and letting myself kind of get attached to someone because there were no stakes are consequences got to quences timid doing so I think that in terms of pudding folly against sort of its proper context. I think the way that Eric has described thinking about it as useful as you know. It's it's probably helpful to focus mostly on the positives that you see right because of a player demonstrates the skill they show that they're able to do something something like you. You know something about them. Our you know that they can do this thing but you also are seeing guys at the end of a long minor league season depending on where where they are both in their careers and how deepened to save them. I don't really playoffs their teams played. They might be dealing with fatigue so you. WanNa put relative underperformance. Perhaps APPs in in a context where you're not going to you know overly debit their prospect profile as a result of that sort of thing. You know I enjoy. I just listed like I I am not an evaluator by any means so I don't mean to affect an expertise. They don't have A. I just think that it's a very cool kind of imagination. that scouts demonstrate the ability to project in a way that is meaningful. I think is it's just a very it's very cool skill. It's a skill that I think is fun to observe and so it's nice to get to talk to those guys in to see kind of what they're seeing and what matters to them and to get to you know ask questions in a context for people aren't. GonNa look at me too hard but yeah it. Is You know you'll see a guy who's like looks really good for a couple of weeks and it's easy to get too high. I on guys or you might see someone who's clearly demonstrating fatigue and perhaps isn't you know throwing the fastball usually due to get overly pessimistic so putting things in their proper context is important but yeah it's. It's just a cool. It's a cool thing and it's nice to. It's nice to be in a ballpark. That's quiet like that. It's a I didn't realize that I you know I it's not like I've experienced a ton of burnout lately but it's just it was a nice reset from the typical sort of baseball experience points that I have either watching games on TV or being in a major league ballpark to just have the have the quiet feels very everything feels very close in a way that that is pretty cool so I like it. Yeah I remember that was something them drilling into us. At Scott School was that because we were seeing amateur players some days as and then pro players some days that they drew the distinction that if you're an amateur scout thin usually you're looking for reasons why someone will succeed because most of the time almost everyone you're seeing will fail yeah. If you're going to High School Games College Games the best majority of players there do not have a future in in pro ball and so it's just like the default assumption is that guy's not gonNa make it. You don't even write up reports on most of the players who seek 'cause you don't WanNa waste your time just rank. Thank nope. NOPE nope not good whereas in pro bowl everyone you're seeing someone believed in them enough to sign them or draft them and so there's there's something there that someone who's qualified to evaluate talent liked and so you're Kinda Lookin for things that they don't do well. You're looking for reasons not to. I like them because you're filing reports on every player in pro ball and say you're trying to weed out the ones that you don't think we'll make it. I liked that way of looking at things even though even in the minors even in pro most guys are still not going to get there but there's a little more to see yeah now for eight. You need to be properly calibrated. Ed and I think the amateur pro distinction is is useful and then it is also useful if you have been accustomed to recently watching Major League ball all too appropriately calibrate expectations downward which is not to say that those players won't be major contributors or potential all stars but they are at at a very different phase of their careers and so you know it's the same as anyone who bounces back and forth between Minor League and Major League ball. You need to remember who you're watching so that. You're not not judging in a way that is unreasonable relative to the to the competition level yeah the to see this controversy about the Mike Minor dropped not pop up and ensuing two hundred strike at the This is so silly so I'll just set it up. The Rangers were playing playing the Red Sox and obviously both teams totally out of it. Mike minor was pitching and having a great start. He's had a very good season. Obviously he's been through what physically he's missed seasons. He's had injuries and he's come back and he's put it all together now. In his thirties had his first all star season ever and and he was on the precipice of two hundred strikeouts so he started this game with one ninety one and he got eight and he had one more to go and and it was the eighth inning and he was up to one hundred twenty four pitches so this was his last inning in probably his last batter and hitter on the red sox popped up and it fell just foul and just a little bit between home plate and for space and Rangers First Baseman Ronald Guzman Newsman let the ball foul foul could have easily caught it but let it fall foul clearly so that Mike Minor would have another shot to record his two hundred strike out of the season and he did he got it. He got the big two. Oh so congrats to minor on that and some people have been mad online about. This may be mad offline. I don't know I haven't read the quotes but this seems like it requires a grant brisby unwritten rules breakdown breakdown or something because this is so silly and the situation it was what I think it was. The Rangers were up seven five in the ninth inning. Actually I said the eighth this was the ninth inning with one out so game almost over but made it slightly less likely that the Rangers would close out and win this game and to be fair. It looked like WHO's Mon- was going to catch the ball. If it had fallen unfair territory like he ran down and he looked like he was about to catch it but then it became clear that it was gonna fall foul and so he opted to give his teammate another shot at at this personal milestone are the people so I saw I saw the tweet from Jeff Wilson about this but are the people who are mad online online red sox fans who is mad online. It's entirely clear to me who which would which site is more mad about this like Pete Abraham. I am who covers the Red Sox tweeted minors. Two hundred strikeouts should have a big asterisk that was Bush chasing a milestone that way is unprofessional and I don't okay so I don't. I don't mean to call this particular tweet into question we will question the sentiment rather yeah this particular tweet so here's the thing about that. I first of all I doubt very strongly. The miner had anything to do with this decision right. It wasn't listen as if he said hey let it drop if you said. Hey let it drop. I would be one thing although still I don't know that it would be that big of a thing because is it Bush league to elect to not get a shirt out. Is that Bush League. That seems like it seems like charity. We need charity. We think the charities kind the seems like mutually beneficial unofficial charity threes. I could think of Red Sox fans or red. SOx players would be upset about this. Is that like I'm really having into my mind into a pretzel to come up with why this would bother them but I guess it's because like hey don't show us up like we're trying. Brian our hardest here. You should try your hardest to even if it hurts us like don't make the game into a side show like or don't go easy on us. Ah Don't have pity on us. Even though that's not the real motivation for this. It has nothing to do with the red SOx really. That's the only thing I can think of now. If you're a rangers player. Oh you're a rangers fan or or something then you still want the team to win. Like who whatever rangers fans were watching this game even with obviously the the season and amounting to nothing really no playoff stakes here. You still get some small amount of happiness. Perhaps from your team winning and so you're percents saying that Mike Minors feelings matter more than the many rangers fans out there who want to win this game. I guess you could make that argument or like. Why should we put minors personal accomplishment ahead of his teammates wanting to win like Chris Woodward. The manager of the Ranger said I didn't love the idea that we dropped pop-up at the end so I guess he wasn't totally on board either and then he said but on the other side of that they meaning the Red Sox swung at three pitches in a row in the eighth inning down by two if they have any beef with that as in the pop-up they chose to not try to win the game as well would how off anyone should be an mad about anything. I think it might be him being kind of Sassy goes. I have a tough time falling three pitches in a row so that means they're not trying to win. What if they were good pitches over what what is. What is that bit of business snus with when you're losing? You're not supposed to swing his at the idea that I don't understand why you WANNA get guys on base but like swinging is also one way to do that so don't under stand the logic of that at all especially from a guy who manages Joey Gallo who struck out almost thirty eight percent almost thirty eight point four did strikeout thirty eight point four percent of the time this this year year wasn't trying to win. No I don't understand I mean I appreciate that. It is abnormal. It is not the normal course of business to engage in behavior like this on the other hand a WHO gives even one good damn about what happened is Rangers Red Sox game who cares even one little bit. I think that it's fine. All you're setting him up to do is to have to try hard again. That's it's all you're setting. Mike minor up to do. It's like hey you have to try hard again and you guy get an whoever was next up in the Red Sox lineup you get an opportunity Peter. Try Hard and it's just a little. It's a little easier deserve fewer outs but it's not that much easier. I think this is this is very silly. I hope that we elect to not not make this a controversy because it does not matter even one tiny little bit doesn't matter doesn't matter at all. What I WANNA know is like what's this disgust and when and by whom like was Ronald Guzman standing out there at first base thinking all right if this comes to me and it falls three feet into foul territory. I'm just GonNa let it drop because the big two hundred is at stake for my teammate Mike here. How did he even know that minor was at one hundred ninety nine. I guess it's like usually players are not hyper aware of Ralston's like that like that's not a big milestone and I wouldn't expect everyone on the team to be aware. Oh Boy Oy this is it. He's done what ninety nine we just need. One more here so was Ronald Guzman just studying the stats was discussed on the bench between innings somehow and the whole team said hey guys. Let's do a nice thing for Mike here if this comes up. Did they even know that Mike Minor would have wanted them to do this. Like what if Mike Minor wanted the out in that situation that helps us stats to what if the hitter had hit a home run or something so. I don't know it's a I think it's it's nice that cushman was being thoughtful and doing something for his teammate and friend I suppose so it's sort of touching in a way but also deeply confusing I wonder I wonder if what we all really would have preferred is just for us to be a better actor later right like to trip yes. He should have fallen down he should have been I fell right yeah. I'll drive. That's that's even bigger sacrifice because it that makes him look uncorked yeah I didn't. I didn't mean to to set my friend up to have to try hard again. I just I fell. I one one time working from home. My foot fell asleep because I was sitting on it and I got up to get another cup of coffee and I just fell over bell over in my house and there was no l. One there because I was working from home by myself and thankfully I didn't spill any goth because there was none left in my cup but I just fell over and that was embarrassing and no one would've known except for the fact that I told that story but he should have just fallen over. He should have just been like I had a moment. I had a moment where I fell down. I just got deja. Vu Jeff also have story about falling down at home I have I have I told this story multiple times. Perhaps that's the possibility we've all done. It probably all fall in our homes. Well blogging about baseball's very relatable. It's just one of those things where you know like. It's a slow motion fall right because you're you're practically still seated and so you have time to think about the falling and it makes you realize that you hope you don't die by falling off a building because says you'd have even more time to think about it in the whole time. I'm like well. I'm going to fall and here I am falling and I thought about it the whole time and it was unpleasant. I did get a bruise on my knee yeah but I didn't break the muck so it worked out okay anyway. This conversation that seminar have had in the past about like who does the game belong to like is the game for the players or is it for the fans and I think Sam kind of comes down on the for the players side and I may be come down more on the fans side but this is a case where the players were sort of hijacking the game in saying that what matters most now is Mike Minors two hundredth strikeout more so so then stealing this meaningless attempt win against the Red Sox and I suppose there might be someone out there who could object to this. It's like the thing that I've said before about twitter. which is that you can always find someone who is upset about something so the facts that one person tweeted about this or maybe a few people tweeted about this does that mean the there was a a general outcry about this dropped pop-up but I have many questions about this and on the other hand I have no questions about this because it's so utterly insignificant? I think that it is fine for us to be confused by the decision not because we are incensed by but because it is confusing especially as it has been expressed by the folks affiliated with the Rangers who have talked about this but I also think that in in general showing kindness to once co workers is a laudable thing and sometimes it doesn't work out quite the way you want it to or you do it. In in a way that is silly but the general sentiment behind it is fine and sense well. This is perhaps very loaded way of saying this but since the Rangers have already ready let their fans down for most of the season as it turned out. It's fine for them to do this. One I mean this time. They did it because they wanted. Mike Minor to have a nice day at work and that's a pretty good reason reason of all the reasons there are. I don't really mean that they let them down. They were surprisingly competitive. It was sort of this whole weird thing but you know they couldn't get Lance Lynn cy young which is fine so they could get mike minor this good fine. I would like to hear a lot more about it but not in like prickly way in Libya. Yeah explain yourself what discussions would into this. What's going on. Who Knew what right Tuck. Who was the ringleader yeah? That's what I want to know. This is still a developing situation trying to put it together on the fly here. So after we finished recording I'M GONNA dive deep into into the literature on this and I will report my findings at the end of the episode. I have a feeling that there may be more to say so the thing that we had to do with this episode which is Komo closer to the beginning is to do a little regular season in review because this is probably our last episode of the regular season pending thing tiebreakers and next week we will be talking about the playoffs and so before that starts and we can keep this pretty concise. I guess I just wanted to review whether this was a good regular season or not and it could become appreciably better depending on how the rest of this weekend goes but based on what we've seen was the second year and I've had this conversation before and it's always a tough one because I never know exactly how to decide whether a baseball season was good and obviously the playoffs can influence that and I'm sure after the playoffs will talk to Sam because he does his annual exercise in determining what was the most memorable thing from that season and what will be remember in the future from that year but just regular regular season only it's hard to say because it so long and it's always there for months and months and months and they always play the same number of games and the same number of teams always make the playoffs and someone always wins the same words so in that sense. It's the same every season and there's probably league less of a difference between regular seasons than there is between playoffs because you can have noticeably more exciting or boring playoffs whereas most of the regular seasons just sort of grind but all of that said what's your impression of twenty nineteen has been a good year. I A I hesitate to say it's been a badger because like you said like going to chuck grind. It's many things I enjoyed a lot of individual performances this year I would say that I enjoyed the twins being good and winning winning central but I did not enjoy how perhaps the the least predictable division because I think that we would probably say that the the NL central ended up having the most sort of variation in terms of who we thought was going to win was really the results of those teams on being being very good so I didn't like that. I don't love the fact that man. Let's see how many many are we at now. We currently have I can do this quickly here so we we four teams that have lost at at least one hundred games. All of them have lost more than one hundred games. The tires lost one hundred and eleven baseball games. They have a negative three hundred twenty run differential all so like tigers fans are like baseball's the worst written eh even in a year where everyone hit a bunch of home runs didn't even hit a bunch of home runs so they didn't even get to be excited about. Dinger's so I think those things stack up to say not super great but there there are things that were that were great exciting. You know there were some very fun and impressive rookie performances some of which were expected did ray we expected before he got laid up with injury that Fernando Turkeys would be great and he was she was very good but some of which took us by surprise surprised you know we did not expect the peons would have the year he did or that. You're Alvarez would have the year that he did so those. Things are very exciting. Lance Insulin delighted me just because I sweared. I like that kind of chaos but I think that some of the League wide trends were concerning the the split between the haves and the have nots. I think is probably not a thing that is especially for baseball. I think the situation with the ball not the best the best yeah right. They're only like a handful of criteria. I think that you could really use to separate regular season so there's like like offensive. Environment was a weird year in some way were there. Perhaps a record number of home runs a record number of strikeouts etcetera Etcetera Cetera so when you think back to certain seasons it's like Oh nineteen eighty-seven that was like the rabbit ball year or nineteen thirty. That was a rabbit Paul Year or certain in years have a ton of stolen bases. You know whatever so that can differentiate a season and then you could have great record chases by which I mean individual player record chases so it could be home. Run title would be consecutive game hitting streak. It could be maybe player. You're hitting four hundred you know some sort of really special milestone that one or more players is going after and perhaps accomplishing you could have have great pennant races really coming down to the wire all over the season. Everyone thinks of like the last day of the twenty eleven season as the greatest a stay of regular season baseball something like that alone can really elevate a season and then I guess related to that also is just the general overall parody and competitive balance in the game at that point and probably other things that aren't coming to mind but I think those are are really the big factors obviously in some years there are a lot of really great rookies they viewing or just a lot of relief spectacular seasons seasons. Mike Trout declared this his best season or at least he said that he felt the best in the batter's box this year that he has ever felt so there things like that obviously there there are tragedies in certain years living this year and their other things of historical significance that happen but just sticking with the few things. I named so it certainly was a weird offensive environment year for better or worse. It's kind of hard to say because it subjective a tomato taste taste but it got to the point I think we're dominated the discussion about baseball so much that it became tiresome to me. I was SORTA sick of hearing records records broken every day and always the same sort of records and its sap doll of the specialness from that kind of record and at the same time there they weren't really interesting individual player record chases. Samina talked about that before this hasn't been a great era for record chases and interesting think records being broken and I think this year was probably the same and other than that I think as you said probably the thing that is most notable all about this year even though it didn't totally preclude some pennant races and intrigue late in the year is the website at -ness of the game and it's really gotten to a greater extent than ever before at least when you look at the extremes so I saw the stat earlier today 'cause Joshi and mentioned it but the highest total for the number of teams with a hundred or more wins or losses in a single season before this year was six and I I think it had been accomplished or I don't know if you WANNA call it accomplishment on only six previous seasons. I believe even five and that included could the last couple of years so twenty seventeen in two thousand eighteen. We're kind of in this era of super teams and terrible teams but it's really been raised a notch and also lowered a notch this season where we have now broken that record. I believe it's now seven teams have either one hundred wins or losses. and two team still have a shot at getting to that mark the twins and the braves could still get two hundred win so we may very well blow by that previous record of six such teams and get to eight or even nine which you know on a percentage basis a huge increase over over the previous record. That's almost a third of the league will either have one hundred four hundred losses and I think maybe that's it's not necessarily disastrous. I mean I like watching really good teams to accept that. It's not fun that a lot of those windsor coming at the expense of if the same few teams poor tigers fans orioles fans and marlins fans in royals fans and that's just four fan bases but that's a percentage of the overall fan base and also as rob. Arthur has shown. I think there is a lower percentage of games that actually have like real playoff implications in this season compared to some earlier seasons and I don't know how noticeable that is but it attendances down a bid and rob also made the case that that has something to do with the lack of games that actually matter compared to past season so so I mean that's probably the thing like if you had to look back in the future. I Guess Twenty nineteen will be the record juice Bal year depending on what what happens next but it will also probably be the year of extreme teams and I don't know that either of those things is actually a good thing as so baseball baseball still good but compared to every other season. I don't know if that actually helps two thousand nineteen case. I think that baseball is at its very the best when the one what we are seeing on the field is primarily a product of granted You know how a team is has coached always matters how roster's constructed always matters what ownership is willing to spend in terms of payroll always matter so. I don't mean to overstate the degree to which this this is a by an area where there are years that the actions of players dictate what happens on the field in their years where they don't but I think the baseball is at its very best when what we are seeing feels at least as if it is the byproduct of baseball players engaged in fierce competition with one another and I I think that when you have a year where you simultaneously have an influence on the offensive environment that is not the result of you know individual the players sorry. There's controversy in the condo parking lots of apologize person honking someone's in the wrong spot. You'RE GONNA get honked at so. I think that you know the pop up there. Oh my gosh we'll never get a satisfactory explanation for that's the that's the funniest we're never going to. We'll never be satisfied with the explanation that we were given for that anyway. I think that when you have something like the ball changing that so dramatically medically impacts the offensive environment that is not the result of you know players of figuring out a new way to swing or pitchers being suddenly suddenly more effective in a way that is compelling it can all feel a little artificial and I think when you marry that with having a number of teams that are taking a step back in a variety of different ways from being competitive which also feels like an artificial sort of relinquishing of competition Russian those things in concert with one another sort of polar focus in a way that is disappointing right it will be that you are right that when we look back on this particular every year we are. We probably aren't going to remember like we're not going to remember P Lonzo. We're just probably not I mean mets fans. Will and you know close observers will but in fifteen years we we will probably think of this year being the year of the ball being different and this particular sort sort of competitive environment and so I think that that is the games detriment which doesn't mean that there weren't a ton of things to enjoy about baseball this year but it just pulls focused from the place that we want it and by doing that I think tends to put us in a an area of baseball discourse that is naturally very prickly early and sometimes quite unpleasant and it is necessarily on pleasant. I don't mean to say that we can't have hard conversations about the state of the game. I think that's very important for us to to do but it it does sort of mute our ability to sort of appreciate the individual performances and even the team performances that were seeing in a way that I think is sort of a bummer because they're still work great things that happened this year right. There were still incredible. Individual performances in their routines that worked great and would have been perhaps would have accrued fewer wins but still would have been very good baseball teams even if the competitive environment had been a sort of more evenly evenly balanced so I think that's the place where I I wish that it had gone a little differently this year because we're missing out on some pretty cool stuff and we won't don't remember it in the same way that we would if things were sort of more organically driven by the players themselves rather than these external factors does that seem to be dictating the direction that the game goes the season Yeah and rob. Manfred did make comment about the ball this week which was somewhat stronger than his previous statements he was talking to more. Brown of Forbes and he said that they've reconvened the panel of scientists that had previously studied the ball and the conclusion was essentially that the ball was responsible for the increased homerun rate but that they weren't really sure why or what was causing the reduced drag so he he wants them to take another look at it and he also says the only thing I'm prepared to say at this point and time is I do think that we need to see if we can make some changes that give us a more predictable consistent performance from the baseball which if you read it carefully does not mean that they're necessarily going to deaden the ball or increase the drag. He didn't say that we're going to make it less lively. He said we're GONNA make it more predictable and consistent which could mean that it is predictably and consistently at the current rate. I don't know but probably not if they were to make a change in one direction or another it would probably be to make it less lively so he seems to not be totally pleased with how things have gone because in the past he has made the case that fans like Dinger's so more Dinger's is good and now he seems to be changing his tune a little bit whether it is about the current rate of homers or just the wild swings in the rate of homer's one of those two things or both of those things seem to have gotten his go to bit yeah I mean I can't imagine that he is an again. We will we will just for the purposes of this conversation except that I don't know the ball has a mind of its own. Some mythical forces purses dictating the degree to which it is lively or deadened. We'll just say that I'm sure that it is he has to be aware of the fact the the continued conversation being about the ball is not great for the sport and so I would imagine that he is both keen in to try to address it at a time where he can be on the record and then we will shift our attention to the postseason and maybe we'll be a little us us engaged with that conversation and also that it should look probably less extreme as run-scoring environment at home run environment so that you know for instance you hugh and me and Sam don't spend part of every other episode of this podcast going who is it. How many home runs now rowdy who uh-huh Rowdy. Let's get rowdy indeed right so I'm sure that he is conscious of the fact that that is both thing that people are very aware of anything that people people are sort of throwing around as a wage to diminish the achievements of players to he has to know that you know it is it is better for the sport for not mentally putting Asterix next to people's names when we can't leaderboards from this year so let's make minors two hundred strikeout right then you gotta get the extra skin there theives. This seems like something that our our palate. The athletic will will be looking into rightly vizquel. Go beyond the speed. Come on. We're counting on you. The the bottom of this the hopes and dreams of a nation turn their eyes Texas Levi Yup. Do do it all right well. We covered the whole regular season in fifteen to twenty minutes there but I mean oh I will say. I haven't tried passing with you throughout the regular season greatly so in that sense. I think that it's been a very nice here. I think it's it's been an above average. Regular Season Verve from my perspective. You've got the whole extra co host more co-host than we've ever had before. It's like more hundred could win. Teams also more co host effectively wild good things and we're able to look at the standings and should you know the raise be able to hold onto their spot. We will have a both a of a fan graphs and effectively wild I. I don't know if we're obligated to root for the race in image to Jeff we could we could decide to be very mad at him for abandoning us and say go as but really it's just you know it's nice to have some representations very exciting riding mass parts good. I'll be happy for Jeff Hart to hold a grudge against the guy for going taking that job especially because we would not be podcasting guesting right now probably if jeff not taken that job so it's true good things come out of somewhat sad things it's nice when people follow their dreams Games even if they take them to. Tampa even if he didn't even think it was history until shortly before it became so we all change as we age age. My foot fell asleep again as we were sitting here. I think that's about age to fit very precarious because these are high chair so if if I were to fall it might actually do some damage so I think oh wait until it comes back alive human bodies. What a what a weird thing people baseball with them. It's it's incredible. It's a great regular season because a bunch of people did this impossibly hard thing and only some of them got horribly hurt while they did it kind of amazing. I think those people are probably less likely to just fall in their homes for for no reason but that does happen we here at insurer people just fell or sneezed. Easter who knows what they hurt themselves. In all kinds of ways just like US regular folks. Oh baseball players to thirties or so perilous all right well enjoy Felix's less than if you can and the rest of your afl experience we will reconvene once the playoffs have begun towns getting all right so I do have some updates on the Mike Minor pop-up situation the plot thickens. I I will note that Felix head a what did we call it. When he came back off the injured Richard West a credible start. I guess he had a credible start. Five and a third innings three runs more walks than strikeouts but hey focus on the positives Matt Chapman homered again. Sean Mnaya was was great again the as one but feel Scott a really wonderful sendoff. It's strange to see him get that Sorta send-off because he's only thirty three years old and it feels like it's too soon for that sort of sendoff but obviously he's earned it and he is also earned forthcoming meg article which I'm sure will be a great sendoff to I kinda think Felix. We'll be back in the big leagues next year though but probably not for Seattle also want to mention Daniel Polka Megan. I discussed his horrendous start to the season but since we discussed it he is actually been pretty good is finishing strong. He hit two two home runs on Thursday to entered the game with zero so that's got to feel good his tap. Your C plus on the season is up to seven yes seven. That's not great I it was way in the negatives when we talked about it for the first time so he will have some positive September memories to take into the long cold winter now Mike Minor we mentioned the Pete Abraham for him tweet bashing the Rangers for behaving in such manner didn't mention that Mike Minor replied to that tweet quote asked me if I care Pete than Abraham replied congrats to you and see be on number two hundred a reference to home plate. Umpire C B Bucknor who called strike three on the pitch after the pop up and it kind of looked like buckner was in on this whole thing because it was not really in the strike zone bet hey close enough now. Alex Cora criticized this to not explicitly but when he was asked about it he said I don't know oh I'm just happy. Our guys are playing the game the right way. We're playing hard until the end adding the emphasis there but it may have been there clearly. He was implying that the rangers were not playing the game the right way now. We were wondering about that swinging at first pitches thing Chris Woodward said the Red Sox weren't trying to win the game because they were swinging at first pitches even though they hit a couple first pitch homers earlier in the game so in the eighth inning minor had actually pitched eight three pitch inning or as some say a minimum inning so that's what that was a reference to do now. Woodward then said that the red sox were trying to keep minor from striking anyone out by swinging at the first pitch and minor said the same thing minor set the red sox x were trying to rob him of the two hundred strikeout. He says I knew what they were doing. They were laughing about it but that's just inconceivable to me. We were surprised that the Rangers even knew or or cared about this achievement and now we're learning that the red sox were aware that Mike Minor was going for his two hundredth strikeout and they were trying to prevent him from getting it and we talked about playing spoiler earlier in the episode. If you're playing spoiler by spoiling Mike Minors two hundredth strikeout that SORTA said they were trying to mess with me because they knew what I was trying to to do minor said I was kind of mad not mad but I knew what they were doing. So minor said he was aware of this because Lance Lynn had gotten to two hundred better know a little while go and he and Lynn or the second set of Rangers pitchers with two hundred or more strikeouts in the single season after Nolan Ryan and Bobby. Wet Did it in nineteen ninety so there is some awareness of this and he says guys were talking about. It was known by the team. I guess they were doing the edition. The last thing is that we were wondering who coordinated this goose mounted onto it on his own and minor owned up to this after the game. He said I knew it was going to be a two strike count if he dropped it so I yelled at Guzzi to drop it so minor actually requested requested that Guzman dropped the ball and Guzman was credited with an error on the play granted. It's not like teams pay attention to errors or pay players based on errors anymore. I I don't know maybe in arbitration but still no one likes to be told that they made an error so guzman made a sacrifice there. It's a little less uplifting because he did it at minors request instead of deciding to do it himself. It's still a nice gesture so that's just the strange saga around what I still don't really get that. He did get the strikeout. It wasn't like Chris Owing. Thank singled or something and then he had to go back to the plate and hit again and then he struck out hit a foul pop up which is essentially an automatic out under most circumstances then and then he struck out so minor still had to record the strikeout. I mean strikeouts are always going to be somewhat sensitive to the context. Some teams play with more or less foul territory or better. Worst fielders still had to earn it. Sports are very strange. You can't support the podcast unpatriotic by going to Patriot dot com slash effectively wild following anti blisters have already signed up and pledged some small amount to help. Keep the podcast going and get themselves access to some perks including the two patriots. 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Texas Rangers Special! Jeff Wilson (Fort Worth Star Telegram)

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Texas Rangers Special! Jeff Wilson (Fort Worth Star Telegram)

"Welcome. To painting corners, your weekly podcast or all things baseball. Now. Here are your host Austin Hartsfield, and Dave quit cow. Keep. Episode two the offseason. Overview Jeff Wilson at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram steps in the batter's box talk all things Texas Rangers with us top to bottom free agents, the rotation the lineup upcoming prospects and pretty much anything to do with this team. Just a heads up. This was recorded about a month ago. We didn't have the news on math is Teresa's or even Woodyard. So just keep that in mind while listening all the other news is up today. And enjoy are going over the Texas Rangers the. Interesting team that they are down there. They had some really good years and recently, some really bad years some great players and some not so memorable players. We're going to start off with catchers there's four under contract. But I don't see any of them making the future. What do you think is the plan for catcher long-term for the Rangers? Long-term? I think Jose Trevino's the guy. That's that's me personally. He's a defensive wizard. He's won the she won't win it this year. But he'd won the past two minor league goals glows at catcher mean he's really really good mind. The plate easy came up for a low weekend at a pitch the season. And he did. Okay. I think that the defense is what you want from the catchy position, which it is. He's going to be the guy. Well, that's good. I I agree. I think I think there's two specific positions in baseball. You can throw away the offense category at center field. And and it's it's mind the plate. I think that they're both. You know, you need a good defense in there. And I think that a guy like him with fits he's I think twenty six years old if I remember Jose, tribunal Trevino's and his mid twenties. He went to it went to Robertson. Here's an infielder there. So yeah, it's taken a little while. But he's he's pretty good. Yeah. Like that will calm you can to that. And even if it doesn't of Barry good defensive catcher hard to come by. You look important is in the playoffs this year. And you know, he'll contract will be on the next two years. Then his are. So that makes sense. I'm assuming the other guys just kind of filler guys from now. And you know, that's okay. So you need that on a team. That's rebuilding. They're trying to transition into catcher he's got a lot of work to do in my dating. And then. A couple of guys who are thinking in class days that are figures way. But I think like I said, I just I look at Trevino's defense and how hard he works. And I think that the best gonna come around enough to to wear he won't be ally ability he'll deal to catch in and. I don't wanna say a florist that the pretty pretty steady guy for the pitching staff to throw to he's going to be in my opinion. What Jason Castro win healthy is a Minnesota. He's just a wall behind the plate. And he's gonna hit every now. And then, but that's what you need. Honestly. Whether it's a guys like, sandy, Leo not. Everybody's gonna be Joe Mauer. Buster Posey mean those guys are once in a duration players. Right. And then giving the two guys decided they just don't last very long. So exactly how to take what you can get. All right. Let's move to first base. There's actually only one first basement under contract, and that's Ronald Guzman. He's under team control. Anything have control them for the next four. Maybe even more than that years. What's your opinions on Guzman? Does it need do the Rangers need to get another first basement, which I don't think they do. I think is just fine. And he's only going to get better with age. Yeah. I think he's going to be under control for while. I think you probably five more years. But yeah, I I think they'll get a I think they'll go get a right handed hitting first baseman someone. They can you know against. Put it in the vix gift give us Minna break. He didn't have a great offense of season. It didn't pretty I think you got about forty the finished year, but showed more power that he's ever shown before. And the Keefer him is he can't he can't be monkeying around with a swing. He apparently this year did a lot of a lot of that. When he went to get in a rut to try to change stuff. You know, you don't change you believe what the judge to the major leagues and again with the major leagues was hitting logjam, gap and not change it. So I think that's a good learning experience for when this is developing player he's twenty three again, I really good defensively. So I think that the Rangers. Didn't stumble onto him. But and this developmental season as they call it, his his development was pretty key. Yeah. I mean, Gu's Mon you really nail on the head there. I mean, he's got he's got a good old PS click, and I mean like you said he kinda messed with his swing this year. He little bit of a mental case they are. But you know, he gets back on track. He he he can hit twenty home runs for you can walk a little bit. And you know in today's modern day 'em obey that type of thing. We'll definitely work. You know, he's he's the guy. Great another great contract. Five more years. Like, we said a guy that's under a could be great contract would be adore now. Doors your second baseman for the foreseeable future. He's on the contract for a while you'd bought him out through arbitration years. So he's on the contract till he's twenty nine years old, and it's a club option. Then is this the guy that is going to be the face of the franchise for the next six years, or is he going to be trade bay is he gonna fizzle out was that a one year? I think if you if you take aways I two months of the season, the Rangers really encouraged about what he did. And you know, two thousand fifteen with her twenty seventeen was a disaster. It was it was on the heels that I'm signing the contract extension. So there was a lot lot Treschow fresher Dr word on him. But something something didn't. Something didn't work. Etiquette carried over to this season. But it got to figure it out. I think what he wasn't great. But. He was a lot better Rangers needed to see that. They absolutely needed to see that. He had a home run off the Red Sox that hasn't landed yet this year, I think it was like four hundred feet four hundred and seventy feet, and it's just you know, the flick of the rest he had it. I mean, he hits for pop. He got his average up over to fifty was gray hit a little Joey Gallo issue last year when he was hitting nothing but hit thirty home runs. So you kinda take out the good and the bad. But I personally think he'll turn it around. I think a better year next year, and he's going to be the face of that franchise for a while. And he fits into that window where your prospects are coming up you got ton of outfield prospects. So you need the middle infielders and think that were the future and see that tech is gonna let it ride out. Choice in it. And they're not gonna be able to change a contract. So no, not not yet. Right. I mean object later on. I mean, if they're gonna try to be now, but it gets pretty big numbers and. Anyway, he he just he just had to be better. And he was the key to the whole thing. We'll get we'll get the here in a second. Because I mean, Elvis going anywhere. Really? I mean, the guys under contract through twenty twenty two unless they listen gonna get traded which I don't personally see if it was if he was going to be traded. I thought it was going to be this year when whenever John Daniels was kinda I thought was going to clean house didn't really until the banister move. But what's going to happen with jerks and profile is profile are gonna get steady playing time this year or what exactly is client? For five hundred max this year. So he he played bass everyday player. He just didn't really have one position until biltrite. Got hurt and proper played third. So I've yet I mean he played shortstop when Elvis absurd early, but. Alyssa's gonna be back. He dropped out of his contract executive do that because not gonna give fifteen million a year change teams that would be able to do that. They. Their short stuff. So if biltrite retires than the profile is going to be the guy at third, and it's you know, he hit twenty home runs this season. Drove drove in eighty his average wasn't great. But he had a pretty pretty good. I at the play a huge third on the team walk. So he showed her a really good. Really good offensive season form. The is he's gotta clean up to throw any he committed twenty five years and most of them are throwing error. So he's got something to work on. But you know, this those are the season range candidate waiting for all these years through the injuries are one minute. So. He has a future on the team. There's no doubt about it. I mean, we could honestly skip third base. Unless military comes back. I mean profile is going to be playing third base kind of fluff. We've already talked about I absolutely love Isaiah. I think he's phenomenal. And I think he could honestly play anywhere that they need into whether it's a bins overs role where he's playing the infield. But he's like we're Red Sox Sanso Blake Swihart comes to mind because he can catch to is the thing he's the super utility that baseball has kinda volved into. Yeah, you're right. And he I don't I don't think he was on the radar. He was he's on the forty man roster because the general the real five trash and this year he was still so spent the whole season at AAA and catching outdoor got hurt than the southern needed. A second basement kind of philosophy is on the forty. And there you go and the resumes history. I I really is solid defensively. He's not gonna hurt you there. He he can play everywhere. He didn't play first base. But I imagine painted handle that just fine. He says he's played the outfield in the minors is willing to do that in the majors. I mean, he's he's the guy that you wanted your team. You know, he's willing to do anything. So yeah, that's great. But I I think they're they're going to be questions of his bad at least from from power perspective. And again, I still think the defenses catchers little too far away to to anoint him a future starter anything. He's still has work to do there. But I mean, he showed this series a major leaguer that he's got he's got a spot locked up on the team. I don't know if this is just me. But I think the Rangers might have too many outfielder than they need to Detroit somebody that that's that's the problem that. I've got four left handed hitting a corner outfielders. So somebody's gotta go. I gotta figure out what they're going to do in standard. I I think I think the center fielder should be fields. I had a bad offense of Europe. But I think you can trace a lot of that to the second game. He broke his hand on any rush back. It was never the same form. So I I think the Aussies seasons gonna serve him. Well, he's their best defensive outfielder. It's it's he's he's relief. You look at the the fifth metrics, he's he's in a lease center fielder. And he went up the middle. This is a guy. That's got to be on your team. He helps get outs especially because the corner outfielders aren't great, you know, Missouri. He's not a very good defensive player. Chew. If he's still on the team is not a good defensive player and really kill him into just just really rough. It's a mess Willy's a met. I think that. Yeah. I think Yahoo is is I don't think the metrics serve them doing Justice defensively. I think for a big guy he does a lot and he's got a big arm. So I I think that he is a good enough outfielder to play every day and not hurt you too bad, especially if you have a good center fielder. But yeah, something's gotta happen. To you would think it'd be the guy they would try to trade. But that contract, you know, he's a forty two million the next two years that's going to be hard to move. I don't know that they want to eat a lot. And I don't necessarily know that they need to trade him. I I just think that maybe Missouri's the guy who gets traded easy off control. He's got he's got some upside filled. I don't think he's realized offensively. He was on his way this year got hurt. So we'll see what happens there. But. This is a it's a has the outfield has attention. And and if you look at the minor leagues or their child three position player prospects are all center fielders. So there's good stuff on the way. It's it's two or three years away. Probably. But the Rangers aren't aren't hurting for outfielder. In fact, that fact, I think they they definitely have too many. Yeah. I I would say to have a little too many. I mean the team is set on the middle infield. I mean the infield. I think is set regardless if it's good or bad. I think is gonna get a little bit better doors your guy for a while, you've got Belgium. He goes back for Isaiah is going to be everywhere. We talked about that Andrews Elvis is going to be there on the contract for a while. No one's gonna take that. Nobody need to move it. And then you're pro for who can take over for bell trae and beat everyday guy there the outfield like you just kind of said, it's it's their right? You have guys homerun guys like a gal and your top two prospects are. Outfielder with that being said, you know, if you hit the nail on the head there with the outfield, and I think we pretty much feel the same way. Austin is that is all team is Texas lives down there and watches them a lot. But the one thing even from up here, you know, for Red Sox fans respective as the starting pitching is an absolute dumpster fire. Do you move some of these big prospects or even a guy maybe not Joey Gallo, but a Mazaar and a prospect to go get a legitimate prospect starting pitcher somewhere down the line because I mean, you look at who's on the contract up, Mike minor Martin Perez. Doug fister I mean. And then you guys at Cologne that was the Colorado. You know, do you kinda hold onto these guys or in just of wait for development or draft? Or do you go out and make a splash and go get somebody? Well, this is going to be the off season where they spent. You look at my more like for a trade. But yeah, no. I think that's that's part of the reason why Pizarro might be. Most tradeable of their corner outfielders. Yeah. I mean, they they needed his if for nothing else because of the minor leaguers their best minor league pitchers are able so if it's a ways away, but. You know, pres- Martine says he probably won't be a day. They won't be picking up that option. I think he could come back at at a lesser price. The Pfister definitely I could pick that. Maybe seven starts wanting the sheriff forgot hurt. Maybe ten starts on remember then. The rest is like a oh, you got a minute. You hundred Mendez is gonna be outta options. But somebody the day flight for a long time. Geraldo is not ready to to be outfielder or a major league pitcher, the he was thrust in there. Just because they needed starters. They wanted to take a look at him. I think he'd be better served with time in the minor. So yeah, they're they're definite issues in the rotation. The there were vet they they know they need help. It's just a matter of of how how they're going to do it. I I think they'll try to piece it together this year. I think they'll they'll use the the opener. And when they can to help help get them through to save a little money that way. And and you know, maybe give the guys in the minors chance to a little extra time to develop. So the the rotations are going to be interesting to see how they try to put together. What do you think the earliest that? We see Taylor Hearn. Probably all-star break. You know, he's. He he showed well with the pirates he pitched pretty well. When he after he came over he had a bad start to skew this numbers sounds I could get kid radio getting a chance to start talks about the reliever. But during the Rangers believe he can start keep leasing can start. You know, that's that was their biggest rate during the deadline trainers training CUNY killers for her. You know, if he's a great reliever, that's awesome. But you don't need great relievers. Right now, you need you need could young starting pitchers. So they they've got a they've got exhaust possibility before they they pull the plug in making the closer set up, man. But I he's the he's the closest to the majors from from what the their their own scouts say. So give give him some time. It's replace the only does and then bring them up. Might as well, you're going to be you're going to be out of it. You there's maybe there's a chance he trait. Minor at the deadline if he can get you something good. So I might as well get him up and see what's going to happen figure. A figure about twenty twenty all-star break. The Rangers will have coal win upon screws up Kayla. Her Anna, obviously, Taylor Hernan, probably Jonathan Hernandez too. So it's not all bad. Honestly. No, it's not I don't I don't know if they're gonna push the gas that much on Krause twenty twenty indefinite. I don't think they push it more Cranston win that point. Right. I think I think Tyler Phillips who had a great year away for a lot of strikes can strike guys out, and he was one of the youngest guys in twenty fifteen draft. So he's still young as h hopefully, he's overly twenty and he's. Only blow away, but he was drafted and he was like seventeen and a half. So you had a lot of girl into do. And I think that they're, you know, he's probably right there. You know? I I would have said coal Reagan's would have been maybe fast track than he had Tommy John surgery. So you kinda can to pull the brakes on him and other guys Joe Palumbo who came off. Tommy John surgery showed well in his rehab starts in an coming back this year. He's another guy who I think could could a debut at some point after the all star game. I mean. Yeah. It's I mean, it's nice to see that they do have something in the system for pitching. The Rangers have been on the bad end of a few moves recently in the past few years and four years, but in a paying for that and retain salary and things like that. But you know, I think the hitching is a few years away. But if they can piece together a few pitchers in have a few guys developed the win a few games as your. They have the power. That's for sure the team loaded with, you know, pop if you will. So I mean, it's good to see that. It just seems as though the starting pitchers, you know, they really lacked let you mentioned the opener role. They're going to use. Are you confident in the bullpen? Do you feel comfortable with it is that that really needs to be improved where you kind of sit on bullpen. You know, the the has some good young arms. Connor Santic throws super hard is. Good kid. Easy showed. Okay. A heat. He was the opener a couple of times. Buddy. I it's not too dissimilar from. Kinda can wear else's their best relievers are at the at the lower levels. Jose Leclerc was one of the best relievers in baseball this year. Just kind of came out of nowhere ended up being the closer after Kelly left. So there's a lot of lead to feel good about with the clerk. But you know, John that it's it's guys that have come through the system of any cases guys Claudio who's telling tricky less d- change of pace guy doesn't doesn't break. Plant a glass, usually guys out CD poems, young guy who pitched four levels this year. So there are guys there who give reason for optimism for the bullpen. Big owners, something that the Rangers had had a lot of the past. So I mean it. I mean, it always seemed to lock a lot of guys whether they have heart towards stop throws Hearthrow shoot walk. Lana guys because you just gonna sit up there, and you know, maybe not get away with a mistake where or one of these young guys have a big arm light. Nailed it. Yeah. I mean, the there's so many, you know, really features that are under contract. And obviously you're gonna be thrown them out. But like you said using the open a role that the race card developed and came up with just giving guys shop if you might strike goals one guy who was great opener, and that turned into your setup guy your or your closer. And then, you know, you got something for the future. So I mean, there's a ton of guys they're like you said CD moved up a lot this year. You got got every springs together that didn't they oh first off at each officials Eleni he showed pretty well had a couple yet. He had a couple of stinkers but for a rookie. He I think he showed quite show Shogo showed. Well and show that he is a future with fifteen. Yeah. Relief relief pitching, you really have no money wrapped up in it either. I mean, you have Matt Moore on a ten million dollar club option out note, they're going to pick that up note, no chance they also know chance there and Martin's making two point two five which is nothing realism. Everybody else is on their team control or their first year of arbitration or signing team control contract. So in money aspects, you guys are looking great with pitching. You know, what the contract coming off the book next year for Peres and fister. And you know, all these relief pitchers that are young again throw finally can put some gas up there and make guy swing a mess. They're on the team control arbitration. So it's really starting pitching for this team. It's not as big as a whole. I guess is some people think, you know, even even Austin, I talk about all the time the Rangers stunk this year, obviously, but they do people. I think they just need the coaching. They need to development just to happen. And if it does it's gonna they're gonna turn into a affiliate Atlanta where they're going to surprise people in a year or two is this isn't the NBA early NFL rookie rookie zone play writer draft picks them don't come in and revolutionize the team. Like the Mavericks here opened happens her that's happened. Now, maybe maybe efforts with stones after the draft is. So I the last couple of years. But yeah, ended development painstaking too. I mean if you commit to. It's it's it's a couple of your process at minimum. Rangers are gonna be in their second year of it. And you know, year one sucked, but you're probably going to be a little bit friendlier. It has to be just because guys do some experience enter the belts now. But yeah, they're they're not gonna be winded hundred games. They they may not win eighty games. But in Nietzsche's another thing they needed to manager during the process of doing that. So, you know, we'll we'll see there's it's not a lost cause like the Astros were when they started this, you know, in and did they didn't have position players ready or or pitcher. So it's it's it's better. They're better than what Baltimore is going to be going through. The frolic veteran of the White Sox have been through. So it's just it's just going to take time. Fortunately, it's it's the pitching in. And that's usually what what takes the most underdeveloped. Is there any free agents that you can see the Rangers going out there and trying to get or certain position that is in dire. Need of it? Well, I mean the size of rotation. I think they're said position player wise. I think that all they would be adding would be like I said Nydia right handed idiot. Quarter. I it's corner. Infielder slash first baseman maybe same same for the outfield. Other little right handed left handed TV heavy there. So. They're not they don't need to sign. Manny Machado, for instance, surge or Bryce Harper. I mean, not that they would have a chance anyway. But that's what that's they don't need to do that. It's it's with the pitching in. And maybe they could, you know, don't of the potteries sign hosmer kind of thinking that he's going to be a veteran piece wants to steets once their team is ready to to go. So maybe that happens. Maybe they find a guy late late perforce rain trading who signs a little bit less than somebody that the camp pass up from pitching side. But I don't know. I don't know who's going to be out there. You know, everybody likes Patrick Corbin. Dallas cackles have your free agent people think that Kershaw shops out for some reason would come to the Rangers this because he's from Dallas. But I don't see anything like that Adnan. I just know. Thanks for listening guys. Don't forget to share with your friends like subscribe share in Mike strike three were out.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 682  Gut Check with Vlad Sedler

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 682 Gut Check with Vlad Sedler

"Eighty two of the sleeper in the bust. I am just in Mason riding solo because Jason Colette is on sinement or vacation. I dunno what Jason's doing today. So got to bring in a new guide new blood a ringer bringing flat Sadler from Gour elite flat. How you doing? What's up? Justin good to spend this Sunday with today. Yeah. You know, there's there's no better person. I think to talk to in the industry at least as far as I'm concerned on a Sunday when we're talking about fab than you because you do great work over at guru. It's Guerly in the fantasy side is fantasy grew. So that's where my my weekly free agent bidding article is so kind of spend my entire Saturday leave the family home and just grind away at to to make sure everybody can get the right bids in for Sunday evenings. Yeah. It's a great article. I I've been gifted a copy today. So I could. Could take a look and kind of compare notes and deathly is useful. So if you are if you're already subscribe over guru, definitely should be reading that. And if you're not a subscriber where do people go to subscribe? It's fantasy grew com slash MLB. We've got a pretty good deal for the rest of the season. And I don't know if obviously if if I don't say so myself, I think it's worth about twenty bucks for the rest of the year. Just to get my article every week unless you're team is all on the I L, and you're pretty much toast story. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's my main event story. So just talking before it just I'm just literally trying to stay out of the bottom of the overall. I'm not I'm everybody else competing for the overall on competing to not finish last overall. Well, there's some hope right? I mean, the team actually the active hitters you have good on paper. And you've got some guys coming back my wrong. I mean, I would hope so I mean Stanton supposed to ramp up till? Vity as of I think tomorrow Jimmy Nelson's almost backs knows on a rehab assignment. So it's just a matter of time before some of these guys come back. I'm not gonna win the league obviously on a not gonna win the overall just considering everything I've had to go through this year that being said I'm gonna fight like hell to get try to get back into the money because if I can get back into the money somehow in my league, I think that would be a pretty amazing Jeevan. Absolutely. And like I said I mean team looks good on paper. You know, you got some of these guys coming back. So I think it's good. Let's get you some boys on the team. I don't know if you're if you're making any pickups on that team. But I'm making a few and we're gonna talk about a couple of in our in our fab pickup segment, we're gonna do things a little bit differently today. One because I wanted to change things up and kind of to because we're having we have lat on the show. So I really wanted to focus on fab pickup so people let me know on Twitter or in the Facebook group, whether or not you like this format as opposed to the regular Sunday format that I do with Jason. And if people really like this one, then we'll switch over this one of people like the old one we'll go back to that next week so bullets. Let's start and talk about some kind of notable transaction things that have happened since I last recorded with Paul believe, well we recorded on Wednesday, but it was a non really fantasy related show. So since Monday, Corey kluber hitting the injured list with a broken arm. Is going to be reevaluated in three to four weeks. So it sounds like really there's no timetable for return and maybe at the best we're looking at six to eight weeks. Ward. Are you doing with kluber Vlad that's rough? I mean, obviously people that are in a position to just stash him on the air. I l you just go ahead and do that. And you wait. And hope you've got some other pictures to help you out. But informants like the NBC a bit tougher of a decision. I think because he was many people second or third around pig. I don't see people dropping him right away this week. I, you know, like some people had done with with Severino or with cleven jer because there is a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel. You're thinking, hopefully, maybe you get that second half of the season. Maybe he's back around the all-star break. So I think in fifteen teamers he's an absolute hold and then with twelve teen weeks where you have that just that seven-man badge. It just really depends on what your Rosser looks like, you know for. Each person. It's just really different. If you are one of those teams that happen to have a lot of stashes, and you've got injured guys and people that are about you might have Stanton coming back Olsen coming back. Then maybe you can hold onto a cool like that. But if your entire bench is an I L team, basically, then you've got tougher decisions to make. I'm not gonna say that you absolutely cannot drop kluber a twelve because you know, I mean, this is a serious thing. And it's going to be quite some time as long as people know that if you drop him he's going to get snagged up. So you won't be having kluber for the second half of the season. That's the big thing is when you drop these guys there's there's at least one person you're leading that somehow is not been affected by injury. So and Dr I dropped Matt Olson in in Monterey road where online championship leagues he got snagged up injure Heaney, you know, got snagged up, and if you're going to drop kluber, like let said you have to just be aware that that's it for. You and your kluber share? So. I'm probably holding them in a fifteen team league. Unless you're in a position like I am in the main event where you don't have a whole lot of options in terms of holding not olden guys. This one is just a real bummer because we we really just don't have any sort of timetable for turn. And while it's a non displaced fracture. Which is a good thing the bones. Weren't you know, they don't have to rebrand the bones were kind of set in place just fracture. The fact that they don't have any sort of timetable really is a bit worrisome to me. Yeah. It's rough. I mean, I pretty much not trying to sound full myself because obviously just got lucky there. But kluber was somebody that to me was on the decline strikeout Ray was going down. So I avoid them altogether. I was pretty much all in Bauer this year. At least as many shares as I could get I started pushing him up to like the early second round. And so I wasn't really ever in a position to to grab kluber. And I think many of us expected for typical kluber Elliott maybe not last season. But in previous seasons, always an ice. Cold, April, followed by just domination for five months, and that may have had started happen. But unfortunately, things go the other way. Yeah. That is the unfortunate because I was kind of caution people. I don't have any kluber shares this year because I was more down on him than I think the consensus was and I think he was one of those guys kind of all over the place in terms of where people had him in their ranks. But I was also cautioning don't don't like sell him for design. On the dollar right now because he's going to bounce back. Always does. And so this is a bummer for him to you know, in a in a freak thing. It's not like he tore out his ACL or something. Like there a UCLA? You just got unlucky with a with a comebacker. And usually that's Carlos Caracas job on the. That's true. All right. Good news Miguel and ER is back. What do you expect from him? Are you throwing them right back into your lineups? Are you worried about re injury with him because there was no surgery? Yeah. I mean, they, you know, the Yankees are kind of in a tough spot. I mean, pretty much have a better team on the I L than they do in the actual line of better team on the I L than most teams in major league baseball Avin their lineup. It's wild. Yeah. And so you know and Har come back is is definitely a little rush. It's a little forced. I mean, the guy can hit, but he can't really feel than we saw that the other day in his return. He basically had to really kind of nasty errors Tyler Neil style. If you remember that kinda throw. And so, yeah, I mean, the only thing they can really do with him is D H M fulltime, which meals also means you gotta have Gary Sanchez behind the plate at all times. Gary Sanchez, obviously isn't a good catcher. So but still he still that way get a couple of good bats in the lineup and Harsha defined. I mean, obviously, there's the risk of re injury. But what can you do? I mean, you just pretty much got a got a roll out there. They do have seven the Yankees this week four against Seattle in three at Tampa Bay. They do fish some tough pitchers. I think so it's not the ideal week. But you know, you you drafted end early, you know, unless your corner infielders are totally loaded where you actually even have a decision to consider benching him. I think it pretty much play him. Hope they the HMO week in hope he doesn't go down on a Monday. In his defense. He wasn't able to play defense before anyways. But now, there's a medical reason for it. This is scary to me. It's like I do feel like they rust rushed him back because you're missing so many pieces in that offense. And I worry what happens when the team gets healthy. What happens when Clint Frazier's about this star reemphasize that gets back or lay the affirmation Stanton works his way back how often can they play him D H once they start getting all those pieces back. I mean, thankfully for them. They have a ton of pieces that are hurt. So it's gonna take a little while to get them all back. But if you're in a trading league, I know you play a lot of SBC like I do, but we also play in a few trading leagues. If you're in trading league if he goes like on a hot streak this week at the play. Are you trying to sell him probably depends. How my you know, what I've got else going on at their base in a corner. But I think that's the game. You always gotta play always looking to to basically take advantage and sell high. So Lutely, he somebody voided in general for where he was. Going like a top seventy overall pick. I just wasn't having it coming off that monster rookie season was definitely expecting a little bit of regression there. So yeah, I mean, he has a big week you go ahead and try to shop and see what you can get from. Because there's always that chance that he has set back in something goes wrong. Nixon Zell get called up to the major leagues goes yard in his second game. Almost went your twice if not for eight an amazing Kevin PR robbery out in centerfield. I don't know if you saw that or not. But it was pretty PR may may may not be the best offense of player in the world. But he's still fun on the defensive side of the ball that being said since l looks like he's going to be a stud and he played a decent center field in that game against the giants yesterday. So were you kind of at on Senzo rest the way he top seventy five player to you top fifty player. I mean, talk definitely possible since L is a stud in his debut in the majors. He hit second in his second game. I think he hit fifth ended up going deep somebody that somebody re is a guy that everybody is really loved him. His have been waiting to get called up to get off the the I L and to be a part of this offense, and obviously this red steam struggled a lot early on. Jesse Winker is really stepping up is looking like the team stood at the moment. It's not vodka. It's not que-. And so Zell steps into a a really nice situation. I think he might see a nice little summer there with the reds and with him being really really viable part of that offense. I I love sons L, I think he's going to be very interesting guy. I think it easily go ten ten fifteen fifteen something like that rest of the way and they've already what the DEA fade camp. And they sent Scott Shuffler at believe. down today. So there is plenty of playing time to be had for him and my nemesis, Jesse Winker. So we will we will be seeing a lot of them in the lineups. And I will probably a lot of crow on Winker as I already have this morning. Yeah. I not. I'm not that aware of the backstory there. Oh, I been I've been Jesse Winker detractor for a long time and the juiced balls are making me look stupid right now. So I didn't think he would develop the kind of power showing right now. And is if he stays healthy and stays on even something close to this rate. And you know, it's thirty home runs. I'm going to a lot of people free wrote aware t-shirts here. Only Justin Mason rota were shirts. The right. Yeah. That that should be the deal. But I think I think I agreed whatever shirt they choose. It's unfortunate. And you know, Alex Chamberlain tweeted out something I think yesterday whereas like every April victory lap. You take you need to take like an April defeat Laxa the and. I take some I've taken to a pro victory laps. I will continue to take my April and may victory labs because people make me a ton of crow all the ones, you know, that there's a direct correlation between people that take April victory laps and people that are not tweeting about baseball in August, and they've already moved onto football. So this is true. I will not be one of those people because all still be taking random victory laps in August. But I will also eat plenty of crow because that's just who I am. I'm willing to take my ELS in it looks like taking wine on Jesse Winker, unfortunately. But as far as since else concerned, I'm pretty sure he's one hundred percent owned and just about every format. And if for some reason someone dropped him in your league use bend all your fab, or at least a fair fair majority of it to get a guy like since L. Yes, there was one league where it was a twelve team where he was dropped. And he was there for, you know, week basically, and man I hate spending a lot early, but he's just felt like a guy that had to have. And of course, there was somebody that loved them more and ended up spending like six hundred and I wasn't going to go there. Then you know on the flip side of that though. Because I say this a lot to I said it wouldn't flag came up. If you've got sends L in a trading league feel free to shop around hit a home run almost to he he he's looking good from the get-go his price will probably never be higher in terms of redraft league. And so if you're a team that needs to fill a number of holes, or you're looking to maybe by on a guy that you thought you weren't able to get a cells not necessarily going to be a guy that's going to win you any particular category. And so he's just going to be a an overall contributed in all of them. So if his his is never going to be higher than it is right now. So you can shop them around. And maybe try to get a steal. All right. Let's move on talk about Jamison tie on who is hitting the I L with in elbow issue. This sounds like a precursor to Tommy John how worried right now are you on James and tie on? I mean down for four weeks is looking off. He was a big favorite. They're going in the range with Strasbourg and cleven juror and a lot of people felt that especially because of his added a pitch in the second half was looking incredible in the second half. And we've seen him struggled a little bit early on this year. And so it's it's really sad. Right right, elbow, flex restrain owners of him really have to hope the best. You know, what can you really do until we hear what happens? I mean, do people wait for four weeks. It's a little bit of a different situation than kluber. I feel like kluber is more of a whole than Thanh. But I still think at least in fifteen years, you gotta at least wait one. One week hold him on the roster and just see what's happening with him. Yeah. That's that's the enforcement part. And he just I don't know if he ever really looked completely right to start this season. So a wonder if maybe this was an issues dealing with kind of from the jump because he just wasn't wasn't striking out the guys he was last season. It just didn't seem like he had the same kind of sharpness to some of his benches. I'm definitely worried I've got him in a league where I can't really afford to lose him. And it's twelve team league where it becomes or actually thirteen team league. It's the the barf league. And it's a it's a little bit frustrating. So I'm gonna hold onto for right now because I've got I'll spots there. But I totally understand if people wanna cut Beatty special in like your twelve team. And if you see formats where you can't really afford to roster a ton of these guys. Yeah. It's it's definitely a tough situation. Go in. I'm sure every single show. You guys are talking. They're just a laundry list of people that we have to deal with. I mean, just like something we've never seen before the season or so it seems it feels that way. I I don't know if it actually is the worst year in terms of injuries. It just seems maybe it's because it's all coming at once early on in the season. But it's it's been pretty bad. I don't if it continues at this rate. I don't know wanna know what August is gonna look like for us. So in terms of who who have less left on a rosters. Yeah. I mean in that opens up an entirely different discussion, maybe deserves its own podcast. But maybe people being careful on the money. They are spending in fab because every week. I mean, we saw last week was an insane week forbidding this week everyone's gonna wanna bid for Nate Nate low and Griffin canning. And then what about the following week? You've got other guys that are coming up. I mean every single week. And if you got injuries happening all the time come August. If you have no dollars laugh. But you have a good team. How are you going to keep up the injuries? And they're of course, just like every league there are people were hoarding their fab. So it's yeah. It's it's it's a tough thing to kind of figure out right now. If is how serious and how long this this kind of injury issues are going to go on for. Let's talk about Blake trying and another guy dealing with in injury issue. He is unavailable through the weekend. They're kind of mixed reports right now on the severity of his issue. The fact they're not putting him straight on the I L is kind of comforting a little bit, but he's experiencing some right elbow discomfort. How worried about are or how worried about China, and are you in are you going to put in some bids on Trevino? So as we speak on this Sunday morning, Susan slaughter, the San Francisco Chronicle beat writer for the as actually says China's feeling much better. Today. He's obviously he's not gonna pitch, but he's taking some anti-inflammatories which he hopes or believes done the trick to kind of calm, elbow tendinitis down. And so we'll see I mean, there's obviously, you know, we we like to be bullish on the idea that perhaps he does avoid his first I'll stint ever in his career. So so we'll say, you know, what I realizes the matter of fact, it's almost it's almost a clean slate because it's no longer the DL. So everybody going on the I l it's literally own on for the first time, technically, right? That's one way to look at it. Ovo positive. You are about. Well, that is good news. Hopefully, that means that we don't need to worry about him too much. I believe I've got him and TGIF be. I if I'm I've got him somewhere. I can't remember between my seventeen leagues where exactly I have him. But I've been a big China advan for for a couple years now. So I'm hoping he's sticks around. I probably will take some. I don't know some kind of the maybe a couple bids on on Trevino in some places, maybe where I'm hurting. And hope maybe I spike closer or or if I've got trying in. I'll just go handcuff him real quick just in case. But I think about twelve hours ago as ready to build a bit one hundred bucks. Now, I'm looking at probably more of like a six or seven dollar bed. Yeah. I mean, you you if you need saves, you know, most people are struggling there. A lot of people aren't hoarding closers. Hey, if you are than than you're lucky, and that's a good thing. But a lot of flights. I mean, you're fighting for saves out there people this week to go bananas for Sean Kelly people, you know, throwing money on Michael Gibbons and try to figure different things out. And so, yeah, I mean, you know, is a good pitcher. I mean, this is a guy that was fantastic last year. Get had a little bit of a blip on you know, but other other than that. I mean, dude has allowed into thirteen innings this year just to walks runs really solid much better than walking Sewri. So he would be the guy Trevino should China actually have to hit the I L. Right. Believe you'd be the next man up. All right. Let's finish. Oh, actually, we got two more got AJ Pollack. He has elbow surgery. I believe to clean up an infection on previous hardware left over from a previous from his previous elbow surgery. Good job guys. Yeah. Bursa which is pretty gross. If you know anything about Bursa, but he the surgery went as expected there's no timetable for return right now. I think we're probably looking at a month to six weeks. What are you doing? If you have Pollick. That's that's going to be a good question for me today because on my main event team wear I did buy into Pollick. Not just because he was a dodger. But you know, I mean. Yeah. I mean, I I don't know what I'm gonna do. I mean, there is a potential chance that I do drop him in that fifteen teamer. The thing about him is. And this is really interesting thing that one of my colleagues pointed out is, you know, the dude hasn't played in June since twenty fifteen and he's only played over one hundred forty games once in his career and fifteen but you go back to last few seasons yet twenty fifteen was even played a day in June so count him out till July. Yeah, I guess you have to just by histories. That's a crazy weird coincidence stat because I mean, obviously, the the fact that he continuously gets injured is not a coincidence. But just the fact that it always seems to happen in June seems odd. That it would work itself out that way. And I think you can drop them in twelve teams. I think that's fine enough guys that you know, that that can fit the Bill for you there. Hopefully, this is short-term issue. Because Pollock is a fun guy to watch when he's healthy though. I don't I don't have any sympathy for for the dodgers. So I'm I'm okay with them them losing a few games in his absence Berna for for all you people out at call me dodger or a giants Homer in dodgers hater, I probably flat onto the show. Let's let's let's calm this big thing. Yeah. Right. It's a big thing. He could tell you could tell me. Never Carlos rutan's hitting the I L there's talk about Tommy John surgery and his future as well. Is he just a straight drop for you? Yeah. At this point. I think he is. I think he of all the guys is the one that perhaps we could lose for the season. So yeah, I mean that's kinda looking like swelling in that elbow. Shame because he had such a big strikeout upside that we saw. But unfortunately for me, he's a drop everywhere. Don't own any shares. But if I do I probably would drop them, unfortunately, part of the shares of mine that have gotten injured this year. I was very very excited in the leagues that I had him that he really looked like he was starting to put that prospect pedigree altogether in unfortunately, I think you're right. I think this is this is probably the most likely of of the guys we've talked about Davos season ending in our surgery. So. Yep. Probably gotta just drop him and move on. All right. Let's talk about some fad pickups. You write the fab article over at guru. I write some stuff over at fancy alarm of for kinda weekly planning stuff. So and we both have a lot of fab bids to put in tonight. Let's start with kind of the big name. If he wasn't drafted in your NFC league last during the draft. You're getting your first shot at Nate low. What do you think will be the average bid or winning bid on eight low? It's interesting. I mean, I think a lot I think between him and canning I think it's pretty obvious that those are the two guys are going to go for a boatload of dollars. You know, the thing about him is he is a always been a big hitting prospect big dude hit twenty seven home runs last year between three different minor minor league levels, and this is coming off a an off season where he basically made some adjustments at the plate and in a paid off for him last year. And so clearly deserves the call up this year, you know, him I can play first base D H deacon hit both sides of the plate. He's going to be worth it. I think he's think he's going to have a nice nice little season. I think you can hit twenty home runs from this point on the good thing about him. Is he's always showed great plate discipline in the minors. Always been really good at taking walks in like every rookies going to go through his struggles. His the other guy. Brennan Lau, we haven't seen him struggle whatsoever. And and that's comment. I mean, that's just inevitable. I'm sorry. I'm a big Brandon Lau fan have a lot of shares. But come on guys. I mean, he's not. Going to continue at the pace that he is this four hundred you don't think. Leading four hundred or not. But. Yeah. I mean, he's a beast. He was worth it. Whatever people paid for four him in fab. But you know, what why why you pay while you pay for Lao are for low here because this race team is just magical. They're built for fantasy this year. You're going to see a lot of teams at the end of the year that are winning leagues in overall competitions. They are going to have a lot of raise on their team. And it's a it's a similar construction of the Diamondbacks a few years ago where what I did was I drafted a lot of late round Diamondbacks at the time. It was like, you know, it was Pollick. David peralta. Jake lamb was guys in the in the late twenty rounds that ended up really really out earning their draft value. And that's what she getting with a lot of the guys here. I mean, you just you know, you see them you. They have like a good schedule coming up with like Baltimore, whoever just pick up, whoever they have, you know, g Manche always got a bunch of righties grab Choi just this team is is there a magical fantasy team there might even very well great pitching staff can compete in in the playoffs. So. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them in the World Series. I think it's definitely possible. And so you wanna kinda just kind of jump along and go along for the ride there. I'm right there with the I think I think low what's called them Lau is going to be kind of the big can of prize of the weekend. I fully expect him to be kind of like a hundred dollar out on average in in most NFC leagues fifteen minutes Basile leagues. And I think he's well worth at. I know I've got a hundred dollar plus bid on him in the main event. Hopefully, my minivan competitors. Don't hear this by the time bidding goes off. But if it does I'm sure they are there are those who are going after him know that they're gonna have to spend at least triple digits, so. And you know, what a lot of it comes down to like what you're current situation is at coroner says something I think about or try to think ahead too is like, you know, just because you have a lot of people, for example. Maybe they have Chris Davis or Nelson Cruz at their utility spot and say their first basement third baseman and corner just going off they're doing really well that doesn't mean you shouldn't put in a nice bid for lab for low because you know, one of those guys go down in a heartbeat. And then all of a sudden you need to play a guy like low all the time instead of having to go to the waivers and pick up like a, you know Candelaria or bore guys that you may like pick up drop every week. So it's okay to go ahead and do that with the way that injuries are going down. And then the same thing where you also want to be careful, you don't wanna drop somebody like a Justin Turner, just because he had a bad first month just in Turner's on these healthy. He's going to be fine. He's going to be good Devers, Rafael Devers, didn't hit a home run until this weekend. This is very first one. And now you can start to play him again. I mean, this balances out you can't go so much based on what we saw April. Lot of these things are going to change. And so, you know, grabbing someone like him to have some depth. They think is a good thing. It's just a matter of if you people think he's gonna stay up for the air. And I don't see why he wouldn't. I don't think that the rays are bringing him up to send them back down there. Learn on a team that starts people's clock willy nilly, they bring people up to stay. And I think the there's unless he is truly awful. I don't think there's any reason they would send him down. Yeah. And obviously in in twelve team IRS there might be some leagues where perhaps you can snag them for for under a hundred. But it also just depends like you gotta look at your own team. But if you've got, you know, our Nado and bregman, actually meant most teams won't have both of those guys. But if you have like solid guys are hitting really well. You know, you you've got Vlad Guerrero on the team or you just picked up shabas or something. Then maybe perhaps you don't need to go crazy for it. But if you're hurting a little bit corner or you want some debt, then I think perhaps he's worth it just know that they'll be some other guy into weeks in the week after that that's going to be viable for pickup. And some what we run out of guys right at some point. They're always end. But then there's a there's a cycle that happens where some of these people like, you know, somebody good gets drop, you know, somebody, you know, Justin Turner against dropped or Devers gets dropped. And then you can try to pick them up. And there's always there's a cyclical thing that goes on in fantasy it sucks with teams that are out of it. Because those teams you just don't see them making a lot of ads drops. And so they just kind of their team, stay stale. But there are other people that are just really kind of jumped the gun, and they drop somebody that could be really good, and you can pick them up later. There's always something available. Let's go ahead and move on talk about Sean Kelly. You talked a little bit about people are gonna be putting bids or sorry. We're going to. We'll talk talk about Griffin canning. I we'll get the Sean Kelly here in a sec but Griffin Canning's going to be one of the top pitching pickups of the week made his major league debut. I talked about him a little bit on the episode last week set. I was going to be starting him in the bar league. Did that I'm okay with that move. He's got to start week this week. Would he bidding on Griffin canning this week, man? I need some pitching bid for him. What makes it even more enticing? He's got to stuff starts this week and people are gonna go bananas for it's at Detroit at Baltimore to pew beautiful to step. I totally see just going like getting like on going on fire like something happening like given runs. A Baltimore excessive. How baseball works is. So crazy the thing is with him actually straw, man. Mcgee is at your boy, one of the F w. Michael. Yes. Walter tweeted, something about his game logs this year and how he rarely gets out of the fourth inning. Which is really weird. It's something I didn't really think about or look at. So we saw a little bit of that in the first star where he was absolutely unhittable and dominant and then finally gave up some runs what was the fifth or the six where at that point. He they took him out. So it's something to be wary of something to to consider. And also, we've got a consider that Andrew Heaney an Nick trop Yano are going to be back at some point. So does that mean feel expand goes to the Penn does do they put Matt Harvey to the Penn like, you know, how does that whole thing workout? So I don't think it's a no brainer. That Canning's going to be up the rest of the air. I think these are some things people need to think about. I think if they're bringing him up, and they're kind of bringing them up to stay. I don't know Walters talking about I mean, he went five in at least five or five twice in the minors. And then six and his last start at the miners. So I don't I don't unless there's some starts coming up on fan graphs. So you're telling me don't believe everything you read on Twitter, especially from straw, man. Mcgee. Yeah. I think that they're going to let him run. I think if we learned anything from the injury Haney situation in Los Angeles last year is they're just gonna push these guys whenever they can. Because it's hard enough for them to keep pitchers on the mound. I think is long as he's pitching. Well, they're going to let them go. So I like canning lot. I was impressed by his first started. I know the surface numbers weren't amazing because he got hit up for what I think too home runs. But he looked good to begin. With like you said it's a great to step this week with those teams in terms of to start. We can't really ask for much better than that. So I think he's probably another one of these hundred dollar guys, and I'm gonna be in on him in the majority of my legs. Yeah. Eight event you'll see him go for over two hundred some leagues same thing with with low and in probably saying. With the next guy were talking about Sean Kelly. So people are definitely going to bid up, especially if you just lost kluber, Anton, you may wanna build Bank on this kid. Yes. You will. Let's go ahead and talk about the affirmation, Sean Kelly who is kind of taken of the closer role over the newly signed or or extend contract extended Jose Leclerc because of that contract. We think that Leclercs going to get back into the role at some point or can Kelly really grab this job and run with him so Kelly can he's definitely capable of it. He's a decent picture. I mean, he's pretty much, you know, right now like a three sixty array exit is three seven it's you know, right around there. Obviously good guy going to leave the slider. Also ninety two mile an hour fastball on so he can definitely hold the job for the year. But I still think they're gonna wanna see Leclerc back in their fix. What he you know? Basically what's been wrong with him? Give him some non pressured situations heated come in the seventh yesterday's game and ended up having a cleaning couple strikeouts. Which is good. So you may see him back. At some point. So that's kind of the tough part with bidding on Kelly. But I think you're still going to see huge bids with people just assuming that he's going to be the guy for the rest of the year. We saw I think maybe last week the week before I can't remember with Pagon where people through a whole bunch of money them. And they're probably going to regret that decision that being said if you if you're in dire need of saves go for it because he is going to be the guy at least for now. And that Texas offense is gonna get enough funds where he's going to put them in in positions to get save. So I just I if you're kind of middle the pack, I'm not blowing my wad on my fab on Sean Kelly. I just don't know that he's going to hold down the job at thirty five years old, and what we see from him over the last few years. I agree. Logan, forsythe? Speaking of a guy who's old in a name from the past. He's been hot as of late an interest in him. Not really he's I knew him. Well, because he was could arguably the worst dodge. All time. So so bad. So the main reason why I don't like him is. So he is a bluetooth guy at first base right now with with Danny Santana. And we've got Ronald Guzman coming back. Guzman could be back as early as Tuesday foresights gonna play a lot less, and then he's pretty much been like over the course of his career pretty much just playing him. When you see a lot of lefties coming up just over. The course it was career three forty one mobile against lefties to ninety seven against righties. It's been a little closer to that this year. And then obviously twenty eight percent walk rate against lefties. You can guarantee that's gonna come dip down maybe closer to his career rate of twelve percent, or whatever it is. So yeah, I mean, you know, outside of like a deep conditional bid for a couple of bucks. I think because Guzman's backing in pretty much scratch them off. We're just going to move right on Chris Bassett who's the guy of liked in the past had a nice I start with the as coming on up filling in for some injuries. Is this something you think he can continue on throughout the season? So he's at three starts this year. The first two were dominant. Just look absolutely amazing. Similar? We saw from Jordan Lyles, right? Like couple of mazing starts. He just got truly bombed. Remembering who, Jordan Lyles truly is Chris Bassett? I mean, he hasn't really been fantasy viable since twenty fifteen but he's a serviceable bitchy. There's something that you know, some sort of magic that goes on there and Oakland it's good park for pitchers. So I think he could have some relative successes here. The thing I'm gonna keep an eye on is that swing strike rate. He's pretty much like a seven percent guy. I at least has been over the courses career and this year, so far he's right around thirteen percent. He didn't give up a couple of home runs in his last start which was yesterday. He's got a decent started. Maybe it's against Cleveland this week. So so, yeah, he's not somebody. I would bring the break the Bank on in twelve years, not really interested. But I think in fifteen teams where it's tough to really find good viable starting pitching. If he's still Vail. I think he may be half the bid. His in the past. And he's not a guy that is going to be extremely overwhelming. But because he's not one of those guys. That's maybe got a huge upside you're not gonna spend on him and fab so he's a great kind of backup option for your for your Canning's of the world. And maybe other guys that will be talking about like answering desk Fani who's next on our list. And he's got a two step this week of both against the giants won at home in a weird. I don't understand why they're doing this. But he the they played a weekend series this weekend within our a the giants and the reds played in Cincinnati. And they've got one more game as a guess as part of that series on Monday. It's not a makeup game. So I don't understand why they're doing it. But then they've got a three-game set in in San Francisco. So he's going to be home verse. Just go in then away for San Francisco. So are you picking up Anthony Fani what he somebody? I've consistently hated on. But there is something in you know, that we're seeing this year. That's that's that works on the thing about this. Is you pretty much want to avoid him against teams that have very very good left handed hitters on their team. So a matchup say against like the Tigers. Rarely would he play them at the note, though, the resum plan this year, but desecrate matchup for dislo Fani just a whole bunch of righties on that team. Not a lot of lefty power. Not a lot of left us in general. But there are other teams like Milwaukee, I would never wanna play go plotting against he pretty much last year had like a teen. Home runs allowed three eighty five. X wilda one of the worst in the league against lefties this year. It's pretty similar. I think his his his numbers. Look good, but three ninety five three ninety eight Wilbur against lefty. So far this year keizer up twenty. Eighty eight percent. Almost walks are still high at nine percent. And he's got an X v about an run higher than his ERA. But you can't pass up to starts San Francisco. Right. Well, like, you said you only wanna start him if they've going up against team with bad or no, lefties and you wanna team bad hitter. It's the giant. So yeah, I think you have to start them. And I've been a desk finding guy for a couple years nights team get back and get healthy. And when he's going up against the lineup like the giants twice a week. Got you got enjoy it. Yeah. Like, you know, two wins fifteen strikeouts. In like, you know, three home runs the route allowed to Bryn belt, something like that. I mean Cincinnati since I start he might get the home run. But that that part keeps in keeps belt pretty locked in for the most part. So I don't think we're gonna see that Brandon belt breakout that a lot of people wanted for a long time. He by the way, the per Walters. Tweet about canning, apparently he was referring to twenty eighteen his thirteen starts in AAA where he only got five innings. I think like five or six times and the rest was under. So never like over six innings. He's he's done it in three or four starts, including his one majors where he didn't do it. So I'm just trying to keep the price down. Not super worried about that. Let's let's move on talk about John Plantier's been sent down to the minor leagues. They've brought up Taylor. Clark to take his spot Clarkston and get to start a week this week and do plenty as gonna get stretched out in the minor leagues. So are you interested in kind of either stashing do plan ta or picking up Taylor Clark? First of all commend you on the best pronunciation of John plan ta yet so far that I've heard so why thank you. I French was my first language. It's very well done. My friend Taylor Clark. He's a third around prospect twenty five year old guy. I mean, he is going to get the at least the first start if he gets completely bombed and maybe do plan tier new plenty by then we'll be ready to go. But he needs to be down for ten days because he was optioned the minor league rules. So, but that's the guy you want. You want to do plenty after last weekend had those four innings and dominance in in in relief. People went nuts for him. Alison my main event leagues in the really sharp leagues. He went for fifty. Plus, and so I never really had a chance. I thought I could sneak them in. I never had a chance. Now, you're hoping that people drop him this weekend or that he's still available. That's a stash that you really wanna have. He's a bona fide future star in the league. I believe I would love to have a moment team. So he's somebody that I'm definitely looking at to Clark's to be just a guy, you know, this week. He gets you know, what act hamp obey and then against Atlanta. And all those lefties, that's a it's a little scary for me. I don't know that I love getting Tampa Bay in Atlanta. That's I know Tampa Bay is a pitcher park. But that offense is just been like like you said the teams that are doing. Well, right now are there teams that invested in the Tampa Bay offense in really the damn obey starting pitchers? So I don't think and it's not like Clark has been great necessarily of minor leagues. This series. Got a six twelve Yara in that matches his Cape or nine. Yeah. Yeah. I I I don't think I'm touching him. Do plenty as an interesting guy. I don't know that he's got ace upside necessarily, but I definitely think he could be a number a low end to high in three and fantasy terms though with way injuries have been this year. Who knows I mean, he could just be an ace by attrition. Yeah. I mean, he, you know, he's one of those guys. I think it in twelve hours is really nothing. You can do about it. But fifteen if you're able to stash you gotta do it. He's gonna have a nice few months will be in that rotation. I think very shortly. The next week or two. So I I would be statute if I could the giants are in Colorado. And this is one of the cool things you do in your article that I do not do in. My weekly planner is kind of talk about just offenses in general that have really good spots or or really bad spots. And the giants are going to start off the first game the natty this week, then go do Colorado for three. So are there any guys on the giants team that you're maybe kind of looking at picking up twelve teams Brennan belt still available in a lot of spot. So I think you you go ahead and you snag him where you can for this for this week's matchups going deeper than that of team. Or is he could try somebody like a Stephen do gar. Or even Joe panic is both left handed hitters and San Francisco basically lines up for not mistaken, six seven righties. There's a chance of Chad. This is back in the rotation. You know? Yeah. I mean, they got finding twice they got Tyler male who Ramallah or every pronounce it. Either way. I gives up gives up a lot of lot of contact to to left handed hitters, so. They're not going to score eleven runs. They did the other day, you know, every game. But they might have a good game there in Colorado, and they had a game at Cincinnati. So I very very much like some giants this week sneaky. Yeah. I agree with you. I don't know. I mean, panic digits hit a second home run in Cincinnati. So maybe starting to kind of get a little feel for the ball. He's the guy that just doesn't have a ton of power necessarily too. But belt is always a guy that can get a hold of one. Every once in a while just not as consistent, maybe as we had hoped for when he was kind of coming up. Do Gert is an interesting guy. They've moved him out of the lean the leadoff spot. And he's responded very very strongly to get a really good series. Instance, atty. So wouldn't surprise me. If he's kind of the guy that I that I would probably target India Fassa bunch this week. But also if he's available in some of your leagues, it looks like they get. Sends a Tele John gray in Tyler Anderson in Colorado this week. That's good. Oh Anderson is okay. That's that's the planner. I've got right now is Anderson though, I I had seen Chad beddis maybe bad as comes up in. They they push Andersen. Back one. I mean either way works, but you definitely want better than there. If you're if you're playing giants this week and their home other home starts versus anatomy, Louis castio, Anthony Fani and Tyler Molly. So all right. Let's speaking of Colorado Colorado's got I think either six or seven games at home this week. So if you've been kind of waiting for they've got six games three against Cisco three against the Padres. If you've been waiting for some of your your Rockies to kind of get going. Maybe now is the time and one of the guys that started to get going his rahmael toppy. What are your thoughts on? You. I mean, he's such a much better hitter than Ian, Desmond Desmond's, definitely on the Kline. It's a very low bar, but those to kind of work each other work well together as a platoon because you know, toppy against right handers Desmond against lefties, dozens always crush lefties. And so yeah, you just he's just one of those guys you need to have on your team because hey, he's a he's a Colorado rocky. He hits recontact you hit for a good average. He's got a little bit of pop you just gotta own them. So in writing him up for the last two weeks. I'm gonna write mentioned him again this week get remote toppy on your twelve team rosters because he's already gone all the fifteens. They're facing. It looks like they're six games are going to face five lefties this week. They've got Bumgarner Derek Holland who's making his return of from the I L than Derek Rodriguez. Righty? But Eric, lower lucozzi and market Markevich's against sandiego. So they're going to be facing lots of lefties this week. So I would be powering up a lot of your Colorado righties this week. So especially in your DFS lineup. So I like top you lot. It seems like they're giving him run. And if he's available I I'd be surprised these fees available to many leagues, but I guess in your ten and twelve team leagues is probably still some shares floating around there you Rockies. I mean, there's teams there's some teams that just have that advantage when they're at home, and you just wanna have the money your team. You know, it's you know, we stream all the time people. We look. Schedule. Who's who you know, what team is visiting cores? Like, how often do we actually target San Francisco Giants offense players because they're going to course, who's going to Baltimore into the face. That's sixty six area staff. So these are the things that we need to take advantage of in grind on in a week to week basis. Are you grinding Lucas g Lido at all this this week? I believe he's got to start week. He looked. He's looked a little bit better as of late or you kind of buying into what we're saying. Yeah. I mean, you know, previous hamstring injury. The numbers really do Justice because he's got an era over five when the experts actually around three and a half twenty nine percent strikeout rate. We saw improvement in strikeout rate over the second half the last season. Really the issue stills the walk rate eleven half this year, something that's always been an issue for him. But it's hard to to get that bad taste out of our mouths after last year. He was literally one of the worst pitchers it. He was the worst pitcher in baseball in the first half of the season. But we're member him. Also is a big time prospect with the nationals in he's finally kind of coming together had a decent start. Not great against the Red Sox in his return. Cleveland act- Toronto this week. I think that's worth bidding on he's only sixty five percent owned in fifteen or so I think people are gonna bid for him, maybe thirty forty bucks like that you could even possibly stream twelve hours. I mean, you always take on that risk. But. He's also somebody that can end up being a somebody who provides value for you all season long. Yeah. He's a he's a tricky guy. But I I like the to start week because of the matchups in like the or the fact that he's he's limiting fly balls right now is fly ball percentage. His dropped about eight percent from last year. He's really working well with the slider. I really love to see the fastball play a little bit better than it is because it has not been good this year. So I think there is some risk, especially if he leaves anything in the zone, but that being said, you're not gonna get a ton of great matchups all the time and Julie g lido's a to start guy. That's probably not going to cost you ton and five percent. So yeah. Bit them up, folks. Skype bolt has got an eighty grade name. He's been called up. He's going to get some bids as well. Started off pretty well in in Reno for the athletics. It's six home runs three stolen bases. Three twenty five four hundred six seventy five in his first twenty two games at triple a is there a chance that he actually can crack the lineup in Oakland. And are you taking any shots on him? You know, what maybe it's like a backup conditional bids. So you're right. I mean, he is crushing. It was crushing the miners. Nice power speed combo in the outfield's pretty sad. I mean, it's Lorenzo up Scotty. And then he could mix in with with Robbie Grossman. So yeah, I mean, I think you're going to probably see overbidding on the name value alone. But other than that. I mean, you know, it's worth a shot. It's not like destined Fowler is is tearing the cover off the ball in the minor leagues. He's basically the same guy. He's he always was and he said like two forty in the minor. So I don't see necessarily being threat anytime soon. So yeah, I think it's worth a few bucks. I just don't know if I would go nuts on him. I would be a few bucks atom is kind of maybe a stash option if Laureano struggles offensively or they just decide that they're they're they're over the Robbie Grossman experiment, which I don't understand why they continue to play that one. But it is what it is. So eighty. Great named definitely not spending more than eight bucks on him in any format. I'd be hard pressed even bid that much. But he opens up a lot of avenues for awesome team names. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't thought of any. But I can definitely see how that'd be. I'm sure there's got to be some out there. People can tweet at us at a gut at just Mason, f WSB you're awesome sky bolt inspired nicknames. My my guy Matt Thompson who really loves bad puns a him. And I got an upon off when they when they made the decision to call him up. So I think he posts that on Twitter at some point. All right. Let's finish up was that gallon gallon is one of the top pitching prospects for the Marlins. There's talk that he could be up shortly. And if leagues more than likely can't bid on him until he's up. But in other leagues, you could stash him are you going to stash him in any formats their blood? So yeah, I mean, you know, they're really only a couple of spots. I can do that. Hopefully, nobody from the F S T experts league is listening because you know, they're they do have players available. That are in the minor leagues. You can pick up beforehand, or at least when they get called up and not when they actually play. So I have to look and see if he's available there. But yeah, I mean, otherwise be C which is where I primarily play. I'm just gonna have to wait for him to get called up. He was the do that came over the al-qatar Tara trade so far in the minors electric, a one twelve Yara just five runs allowed in forty innings. Thirty four percent strikeout rate in under four percent walk rate. So this kid is great. Stuff. I I don't like this rotation right with Caleb. Smith richardson. Good on occasion. Like Pablo Lopez is occasionally fire. He has a good start today. Sunday at that. If he ends up having a bad start, by the way. The Braves, right. So it's not necessarily great matchup. Exactly going on. I'm playing them in DFS today. Please. Contrarian blade. People aren't usually going to go up against the Braves but accuse banged up. It's it's a nice up parked pitch in and I do like Pablo Perez. Yeah. I mean, this this this staff would definitely use somebody like gallon, very well. And there's no reason not to call them up unless they're just totally thinking. Yeah. So he probably will replace al-qatar in the in the rotation if he continues drug will, and he he struggled I know because his on at least a couple of teams. But I think I'll tell got to start week this week. Hopefully, he can get both stars chance to turn it around. But if he does, and I'm pretty sure gallons coming up early next week sounds about right to me. All right. Anybody else you wanna touch in from your article or or that you're just thinking about before we wrap it up? No. I mean, I think some other names I think people need to bed on how Kendrick still happens to be available in any of your leagues. I think you know, somebody like James McCann also needs to be owned in in twelve team or especially with catcher being so so bad. They can maybe people need to be careful on somebody like Jose glaciation. I mean, you know, hot one week cold the next the dudes hit three fifty over the last two weeks. So, you know, exactly where that batting average is going, and then I do think that Garrett Hamson I can't quit that man. I think shares I'm surprised that he's been dropped and wings. He's getting dropped. And I mean, we thought maybe Daniel Murphy is gonna go on the I L or something. But then you Murphy's in the lineup the other day so still not playing every day. There's going to be a time eventually something's going to happen. He's gonna get everyday playing time. So you wanna you wanna hold on him? And hopefully, he figures out on the majors before you get down to the minors. He's too good of a hitter of natural hitter and has two good plate discipline to not figure it. It out at some point. Brad johnson. Brad Brad soliciting, so yeah. No, he he's he's too. Good of just he's got two good of a hit tool. Not to get it eventually. So I I'm holding onto my shares. It hurts me because like in the main event, I can't just like put him on my reserve list because I don't have reserve list of healthy players, but I'm running out there because it's some point. I think he could be a real difference maker. And I don't want it to be for someone else's team. Yeah. And the very last name, I'll just mention it. And you may scoff at me, but Nikki Monaco, the dude is going to suck your batting average dry. But he's gonna get some home runs in the process, and they get seven righties this week summer of the difficult variety Bauer. Bieber caress co but just somebody to keep an eye on somebody will be on the waiver wires at all times. I'm not talking twelve hours. I'm talking about deep fifteen leagues at some point the summer, you might need some power. He could work out for you as well. Yeah. I'm I'm not I can't buy on. Monica not give you the same like like name value quality is a sky Boulter. You just look at that differently. Like, our or if you're ordering pizza, maybe I guess if you compare them with another Italian sounding last name in you can turn it into something. But I just don't it does definitely doesn't have the Thor like strength of sky bolt. Now, that's a very very precious name. All right. Lad, why don't you tell everybody wake racial, social media and then plug all your work over guru. Yeah. So Twitter if you don't already follow me as at rodeo, gut our OT O G U T and on my work on the season. Long side is found over on fantasy grew dot com. I've got a weekly from the gut article and then also on the weekends. I do the the weekly fab article, and that's it. Thank you very much for having Justin always, a pleasure. Of course. It's always great to sit down and talk with you. You know, I I missed you out at tau or is this year. So we're we're getting our. Kind of time on the podcast. But and then I think at some point I'm either coming on your guises, podcast or. Or here buddy draft sheets coming on this one. Because I definitely losing my to him our main event bet so awesome. And we'll love to have you. I is much as I don't like to lose. I definitely pay off my bad. So I gotta go check that tweet and figure out which one which podcast or who's coming on which podcast when I lose it. But even though his main event team is awful. It is awful. It's mine. All right. That's gonna wrap is up flat myself for listening have tastic baseball.

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Effectively Wild Episode 1503: Season Preview Series: Indians and Rangers

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1503: Season Preview Series: Indians and Rangers

"Back placing your bets rolling morning. Kim Welcome to episode fifteen three of effectively wildly baseball podcast fed graphs presented by our patriots orders. Lindberg of the ringer joined by Miller of ESPN low sand. Hello Ben for doing a season preview. Podcast today talking to Al. Teams the two teams that connected for the Corey Kluber trait this winter. Cleveland and Texas. We'LL BE TALKING TO TJ soupy about Cleveland in just a moment followed by fight weaver on Texas and I just noticed although we're talking about to AOL teams today. We've been very heavy thus far so we are a third of the way through this preview series. We've done ten teams and eight of them have been National League teams which tells you something about the distribution of talent in the leaks. I think because we've been going based on projections starting from the middle teams and then going out to the extreme so we've been talking about the teams that are kind of in the middle and it just so happens that a lot of those are NFL teams in the AL is still sort of the the League of the great teams in the terrible teams so that has manifested itself in our previous scheduled as far interesting so just like last year where the all the clear division races were in the Al in the extremely muddled and constantly shifting wild card race was in the NFL. Yes yeah I think I wrote something this time last year about how the L. is the more interesting league? Now maybe the better league it wins in interleague now but also just kind of a free for all and that's the only other point. I wanted to make your fan grasp posted its playoff pods which still seems like sort of a momentous event because we have a lot of things all winter that we never used to have until spring for instance projections right. We have steamer projections at least at Fan Graphs. Like basically all offseason. We can look at what some players are projected to that always used to be a ritual of spreading. We would get the projections now. We kind of have them all the time. We have depth charts year round. A lot of this is thanks to the fine folks at fan graphs but we do not have playoff odds year round playoff odds. They'll go away for a while. And then they come back. When Finn Graphs folds these zips projection system along with the steamer once and then we get these combined playoff odds and just a few things stood out to me from looking at this one is that there is a strength of schedule rating on the plaid's page and the team with the strongest schedule. The best opponents is the orioles. Which just that seems unfair. I mean it's not surprising. They're the they're bunch of other good teams there but the fact that the orioles who already have the worst projected through talent also have the hardest schedule that just feels like piling on or maybe it's justified because clearly they are not really trying to win so serves right I guess but their opponents have a projected. Winning percentage of five fifteen collectively which is quite strong. So your Oriole's are one of three teams to have as zero percent projected chance of making the playoffs this year along with the mariners and the Tigers condolences to fans of those three teams oils are going to be bad for all sorts of reasons this year. That is one thing that stood out to me. A couple of others are actually related to playoff So the Red Sox right now are a fifty fifty shot to make the playoffs like almost exactly. They are fifty point one percent likely to make the playoffs granted. A lot of that is wildcard. Odds they only have about a fourteen percent chance to win the division and maybe that even sounds high to some of you but I think the fact that they are right there that hair almost literally fifty fifty makes the mookie trade war calling It'd be one thing if they were long shots and they said well he's going to hit free agency. We'd better get something while we can. But the fact that they are right on the bubble there one of these teams that is in that sweet spot where they're projected for like something in the eighties. High Eighties win total. And even though the guys that got back pretty good. They're still costume themselves. I don't know four so protected. Winson they could really use those winds so I think that is something that Red Sox fans are entitled to be angry about all right. I'm very quick at. You'RE GONNA unfortunately this is not gonNA be a clean experiment because you've been out looking at these already but I'm gonNA give you Five Quick Questions Okay K. San Diego padres up to pick either or twenty percent likely to make the playoffs or fifty percent in your head. I know that you're looking at one of them right now. So so I'm not asking you. I'm not literally but my head's claim to twenty. Are they closer to fifty in your head? I'd say closer to twenty okay reds. Are they closer to sixty seven or are they closer to twenty four? I guess I'd say twenty four. Okay Red Sox are they closer to twenty eight or are they closer to fifty? I think closer to twenty eight even though I just said fifty is what they are projected Oakland. As are they closer to twenty eight or are they closer to fifty fifty and angels? Are they closer to forty six? Are they closer to nineteen nineteen? Okay well zips wins the bend Lindbergh projection face off. Three two two was very close so the first number I read in each case was pagoda. Second number I read zips and you picked up a code for the PADRES and the Red Sox but you picked us zips for the as reds angels three two very close race. Yes I had it projected. I actually had it projected going to point seven to two point three. Okay a couple of other things that stood out to me on this page. The White Sox heavy twenty seven percent chance to make the playoffs at fan crafts. Which sounds about right to me but that may be disappointing to people given that they've been quite active. They're still rumored to be pursuing week so they've been aggressive all winter long. We talked about that on our previous podcast and they bought a players. I am very excited to see but there is a pretty good chance that that will not call eight in a playoff appearance this year in that we will get another instance of the team that wins the winter. Not Winning the summer. I also noted that the east race is projected to be extremely close which is not surprising. Sort of expect that but the division odds for those teams the nationals. On top with thirty five point. Five percent mets at twenty nine point nine. Raves. At Twenty eight point two that is neck and neck and neck then the phillies have a shot tube. So that is really close. It's actually closer than the NFL Central. The is more of a fourteen race. But with essentially you've got the cubs are leading with thirty nine point five percent chance so there's obviously quite a contrast here but you've got at least two divisions where the favorite or the team that has the highest division is not actually the favorite versus the field which makes for an exciting division race but also makes for kind of a Mediocre Group of teams which contrast with the dodgers who are as close to a lock. As you ever see I think they are at ninety seven point six percent chance to make the playoffs right now and one point one to win the division and I assume Coda says even higher or will say even higher Coda Hesam projected for like the highest win total that Prokhoda has ever bestowed upon team. One hundred three wins. Last time I looked all right and then you had the angels down at seventeen point. Seven percent playoff odds projecting and other early off season for Matra all right. Let's move onto our first preview segment. We are kicking things off with Cleveland and we are joined now by PJ zippy. Who COVERS CLEVELAND? For sports illustrated he has in the past for the athletic and ESPN Cleveland and he podcasts. About the team at the Salvi is got cast. Hey TJ has gone. Hey guys happy to be here happy to have you so this off season was really all about wondering who would still be with this team. When the season started and specifically whether Francisco Indoor would be an third that now he is so specifically about window. But just more broadly about the team. As a whole what do you see as driving this whole motivation to trade Bauer to trade Kluber to explore trades for when door? Is it cheapness? Is it justified? Austerity is it. Attendance is that market. What exactly is contributing to this? How UP IN ARMS SHOULD FANS BE? Yeah I think the majority of it is financially triffid though down because even Francona said this offseason the Front Office wasn't eagerly picking up the phone trying to trade away all their star players over the past few years. The reasons for it that is you listened to ownership will tell you that it operates more around trying to be more financially responsible if you will. I'm trying to get to a point where they can afford to run the team the way that they want to. And of course it's not going over well with fans as you can imagine and you can understand that to a certain extent we all know. The Cleveland is not going run out. It's a top-five payroll in baseball and I don't think anyone here in the city really thinks that they need to or or have to or are even capable of doing that but I think the bigger issue here is a lot of fans. Look at this team and say this is. This is a good team still and yet you look at the payroll the last few years when the clock is ticking on Franscisco door and it seems the more likely outcome as he's GonNa be playing baseball elsewhere in years. Why is the payroll going the opposite direction? When you know this might be your last two shots to take a shot at a championship team with window or a part of it to their credit. They're trying to go about this in a way of not ever having to go through that valley that you see a lot of teams have to go through. You're seeing teams in the American league central. Go through that now. They want to build a sustainable contender for multiple years to have a strong farm system and kind of have their cake and eat it too. But as you look at this team going into this year a team that still has a lot of talented players and probably as you're looking at team. It should be contending to have some good feeling stores narrative for most of the OSCE. Offseason has been around a kind of a pessimistic nature. I won't talk about the payroll a little bit because i Cleveland Payroll Vexes me. In some ways they were for most of this decade they were like sixty to seventy million dollar payroll which is like one of the low like they were in the bottom three ish pretty pretty reliably the year that they went to the world series they had a payroll of fifty eight million dollars. And but you know. Sixty to seventy sixty to eighty was kind of a standard for a while and then they. After the World Series Year they bumped it up to ninety five and then they bumped it up to one hundred and twelve and then they bumped it up to one hundred twenty three last year and so when they cut payroll. There's definitely a sense of what you know. Anytime a team cuts payroll it's like. Wow will you could afford one twenty three. Now you're cutting it. You're being cheap and I've never quite known whether one twenty three whether they moved up to one twenty three because that was a level they were comfortable with or whether that was sort of a recognition of the moment they were in and the players that they had and then of course there's always the underlying question of whether any team needs to put the restrictions on their payroll that they do whether the point of the team is actually to to make profits or whether it's to have a good time and do this and so that is a build up to the question of like given all of that. What do you sense is the payroll that Cleveland should be shooting for like? What should we expect a team? Like Cleveland in a moment like this to be paying for players every year. Is it closer to seventy? Is it closer to one twenty? Is it closer to one fifty? What should they go into the offseason? Aiming for why can tell you what they'll tell you. The answer is it's a lot closer to what we're seeing probably this year than where they bet than years past and. That's kind of the the downside. Spending a lot is kind of establishes. The new norm for auto fans. You think well if you're capable of doing that last year that just must be what you're capable of doing forever now and if you try to break off of that of course you're going to have a backlash of sorts. I mean I don't blame any fan for feeling that way Especially like we're talking about not so when you know that there's only two years left on this on this clock yeah. I think it's difficult to truly know that because very few teams are inviting. Hey sit down and take a look at the books and let us explain. We're all this money is going and they have a very a vested interest in putting on a narrative that explains that. Hey we're we're we're at our means you're this much beyond this and and right now we're operating pretty close to breaking even or maybe coming away losing money in several years and you can hear that and you can try to give them the benefit of the doubt believe that they're being truthful but we don't ultimately know and you just don't want to hear that so to answer your question. I think they would. They would tell you that it's closer to where they're at this year And that's been the the slow bill back towards that over the past two years but it's the timing of all of this is just. It couldn't be any worse because it's it's between that and Linder and that's pretty much been the entire offseason or really anyone looking at anything about this team and you have some other things that you could point to look at a starting rotation is quite a bit of a pipeline for them where just plugging guys left and right. They're having injuries and somehow they're able to overcome it. They do have these stars right now. Look at a team that you probably shouldn't have negative feelings about but just that's been the case much of the officers and where they're at this year is going to probably be like what like ninety ish that about right. Yeah I mean I'm Mike Rowe little bit I suppose. And and we've seen them take on some salaries throughout the year so at times. They have left themselves flexibility beginning of the year in trying to plan for maybe making an upgrade somewhere throughout the year but the downside of that is you will you saw. They had so little depth when they had some injuries and guys didn't play like stars. They couldn't overcome. That might have been the difference in the division are certainly a difference in the and trying to chase a wildcard spot with with this. You're going you. You're kinda running into the same issues depth wise. So yeah I I. You wonder if if they truly learned any lessons from last year or is this is just going to be something that they're going to have to operate kind of in this realm now once over one of the things that has enabled that lower payroll is their success at developing pitchers who they do not have to pay a lot so yes. They traded Bauer and they traded Kluber but they could sell the new guys that are there and have been good for them to fans so looking at the rotation. Is that still a strength? How big a blow is the CLEMENGER issue. Carlos Carrasco of course among Comeback Player of the year award. He came back in an inspiring way from treatment or Kimia is he expected to be at full strength this year and is back the rotation going to wait the one thing that they've kinda hung their hat on for several years and certainly the offseason. They haven't come out and said it but through their actions basically saying well look we have all these issues offensively but we feel really good about our starting rotation the depth that we built in arcade billiards. Churn guys out left and right right so anytime you have a blow to that. Something is supposed to be not only a strength but something. You're just counting on to almost be a four conclusion. Going into the year of the starting pitching is going to be not just good but upper echelon in the American league and then you suffer an injury of any sort star. That's not a great place to be so it. It could become something to keep an eye on. I mean cleverer breaking out the way that he did it. Have it be so much about? Some added velocity and the strength training and paying attention to his delivery and now having a a knee issue. I worry too that. Be something that impacts that ETA velocity. He's at it is. Is that a case. Where maybe he's not quite a top ten pitcher in the game this year. He's going to be a little bit closer. Just really maybe the twenty eighteen version of Mike Clever. They can't really was Dan. Do not have their star level talent. Perform like because they don't have that tremendous doubt but the one thing that they do have is that definite rotation where it's not necessarily proven depth. But there's just a lot of guys that are really interesting intriguing. And they have such a track record of taking guys that you don't think much of and getting so much out of them. Look Aaron Somalia. Last year he was on nobody's radar. It came up in tremendously. I don't know if that's GONNA continue at the same level as it did last year but that was somebody that wasn't even supposed to be really in the plans for the next few years. And now you're counting on him potentially if you're in the rotation of xactly that kind of the same thing even city at it some some miles per hour to his fastball. Working with my cleven during the off. So that's another guy that's like okay. Well that's kind of an interesting arms. Even if the peripherals didn't match the exact performance on the field as far as it goes they're going to need him to be Rasco of old for sure. Because you do have this cleanser thing hanging over it. Even if it's only three or four starts at something to keep an eye on throughout the year seem bieber looks like a guy that is just a steady performed because he throws too many strikes and to his credit. He finds ways to get better. The KURANDA is kind of the guy that he can hold the rest of this together. Because you have young guys. But they're all unproven. You don't know exactly what to expect him. Pasco could be I mean I've seen him on some some Darkhorse Horse Cy Young candidate lists and he certainly has that sort of -bility but go into the year. And you're having a guy that had to battle Kimia last year to even get anything out of him was absolutely incredible and Quite a heart warming tale in in its own. So they're putting a lot on him to be able to be able to be that kind of top of the rotation guy still in this rotation to go along with club injured beaver and if they get that then this rotation will be just fine. There will be no issues and they'll probably be among the best in the American league but there's a lot of volatility there Now that you've added some some injury issues with with clemenger already had some some problems last year giving you two hundred innings and then of course which is so much unproven young talent. That looks intriguing. But you don't know exactly what it is at this point. Yeah so they traded our West Year just a few days after. He fired a ball over the outfield fence. When he was pulled from the game. Do you think that was a precipitating incident? Do you think okay. They thought okay. That's it that's less draw. This is too much of a distraction. And you think that when he was traded most players in the clubhouse were happy not to have him around anymore or does the fact that some pitchers like Shane Bieber. Mike clovinger credited him for part of their improvements and changing their trading methods. Is that a loss to some extent to and I guess how much of the trade was. Well we know he's going to insist on hitting free agency and we're not gonNA have him that long and also well it's GonNa make us better in the short term. We're going to get big league ready guys back right now and how much of it was just not wanting to be in the trevor business. More this this'll surprise absolutely nobody but trevor. Bauer is a complicated topic. It could never be filtered into a nice easy kind of black and white right or wrong kind of issue. Because it's it's just knock that with him. He is somebody that yeah. Do you know any times. Absolutely where there were times where he just caused way too many headaches than than probably you'd like to deal with on a daily basis absolutely but he was also someone who was supremely talented as you mentioned. He had grown into more of an old ship. All over the past few years is guys are gravitating in credit to him. He's willing to share. What knowledge has as eager to learn and try to pass that along to everybody else and it didn't make a difference. I mean part of the the Clemenger breakout in twenty. Eight teams came back to the trump our Mike Clemens. You're having conversations in the dugout and trust basically saying you're leaving miles per hour on the table by the way you throw and them sitting down and in and outside of just even the coaches them sitting down and working out a plan and club kind of taking that and running with it. So that's part of the non-quantifiable portion of this. I think not having someone like him in the call can be well especially when you have a lot of young pitchers could be something that maybe does take away from the intangible elements of this but there is also that that side that you're talking about with his service time where it was that you know how long they ran a control him knowing that they're not gonNA sign him to a long term view. There's questions about whether or not you can do that with any even if he's going year to year making tons of money that that's not the sort of business unions are looking to be in. I think they were able to make a good baseball trade more than anything in in what they did last year knowing that they could probably get by without Bauer being part of the rotation with the offense absolutely needed the upgrades that they got not just in twenty nineteen th now John With Frontal Race. Still here so that's still a trade that pays dividends for them so they get. It checked a lot of different boxes. Where yeah what was the the throwing the ball over the centerfield seeing the last straw? I don't think it really comes down to it. That sort of way but it was probably something that they had to consider whether or not this guy that they want to pay a lot of money to over a long time and and once they realized the cates probably GonNa be a case where he's going elsewhere in. Let's try to cash in and try to six part of our roster right now and and I think they were able to the trainers. They may be accomplished what they were seeking to do. One of my favorite breakouts from last year. My favorite breakout last year was Roberto Perez. The catcher. Who Hits like many more home runs than we thought he was capable of an was a league average hitter but what really made him valuable was that he was an extraordinary. Defensive Catcher. Just like I think we'd mentioned on on here a few months ago that he was I think. Ranked first in the league in throwing run saved a baseball perspectives. I passed balls and wild pitches saved run saved and then I think second or something in framing runs and in particular he he had no passed balls which feels to me like if I were running team by September the whole crowd would be chanting. Catch that pitch on every pitch to try to keep that like record chase going. Just imagine every pitch catch pit anyway. Roberta Peres thirty years old. I mean you know in the Organization for more than a decade vary on Unaccomplished before last year seems to me like a perfect folk hero. People love their catchers. Is there a real recognition in Cleveland? Of just how good? He is defensively. Is that something that is really highlighted or is it a little under the radar and in fact am I the one who's making too much of it right now? No I don't think the defense flies under the radar whatsoever because we hit fans over the head with that fact for years. They were screaming designate. This guy for assignment because he couldn't hit think hold on you. Look at the defensive numbers. He's really really good and I know he doesn't get as much playing time. This yacht gums most years. But Trust me this guy brings value and it took some time to kind of win some people over and also took him having the offensive. Breakout for everyone to kind of join you on your side of the the raw fence But yeah I mean. Watching him breakout last year was especially early. There wasn't a lot of fun things to watch the team that head Carlos Gonzales and clean up one day and the next day she was the. Fa Roberto Perez was fund to watch that breakout. It was a guy that obviously had the defensive value in skill but you always questioned. Why not he could hit enough to warrant being starting catching. The Indians believed that there was more in there than he had ever shown. He's always had a pretty good eye at the plate so at least if nothing else you figured he'd get on base a little bit at the bottom of the lineup and then he had pitching staff really well. The the power was a testament. Just an unforeseen breakout. That never could've really forecast it. But he got a little bit more aggressive. Got into a stroke to right center field. That really worked well for him and I think once that confidence started the Bills Stock Act. Ball's defence I don't have to just be a guy that takes you know three pitches to begin the at Bat because I'm just a guy up there with looking to walk I can do some damage myself and part of it was mentality or if it was probably just getting in there every day and playing and then he also. Here's a guy that had to have surgery after year. He banged up. He's playing as much as he did. And that to me is even a bigger credit to him that that he's banged up. That is catching pretty much. Every single day for the Indian and he doesn't let one ball go to the backstop. It's his fault that's incredible And he took a lot of pride in that he's always been a prideful guys. Defense something that comes first for him. It's never been a question even when he's gone through some offense and struggles he's kind of fallen back on. Okay I gotta go out there and help pitching if I'm doing that. I'm doing my job and he certainly did that a lot last year. I think the only disappointment for him is that he didn't get the platinum glove or whatever it's called. He was really shooting for that. He's kind of disappointed but it didn't end up coming to him but I think he was very happy. And maybe humble see everyone kind of recognized him for the defense of that he brought and it was up rush on. It's not the best in baseball last year. So the outfield was an issue last year particularly early in the year. That's part of why they made the trade power that they did and got the return that they did. They're going into this year with a group that includes some holdovers. You Got Oscar Machado around there. You've got I notice. Shields you've got Jordan we'll blow you've got the Mingo Santana in the mix now and frame your race's maybe slated for the H. Duty and then there's Greg Allen I mean it's not an inspiring group necessarily so is it better than what they went into twenty nine team with going to be saying exactly the same things that we were saying. In a year ago I feel like it's like twenty twenty still talking about the Indians. Outfield still hasn't been remedied. I mean imagine where they'd be if if Oscar Machado had really. I won't say broken out. It's quite to that level. But he sell it into a really nice player in Centerfield. And if the guy that like you could play a role of some sort of a major league team but I don't know if anyone Pennsylvania everyday outfielder on at least initially in he was pretty good in handling Centerfield and he's plugged in there so at least being everyday guy at this point but the rest of the rest of the mix. You ran through the list. They have a lot of them. Got Jake bowers. They're looking to prove himself. And it's like okay. Well there's a lot of them and I hope you can get one answer out of that but I don't know it's such a question mark still going into this year adding Bingo Santana. I would think with the way that this is set up for a mill race lost. You said eighteen pounds this winter to give himself a legitimate shot to go play corner outfield and the Indians are going to give him every opportunity that this spring we know the metrics haven't been kind to him is in that regard offensively Someone that certainly down the road looks like he's an everyday d. h. but he's also still young Indians. Want to give them a shot in the field. I think the best alignment could be with him playing right field so he'll be out there pretty much every day this spring to see how that goes credit put in work that we give it a legitimate opportunity. And if that's the case then it'll probably be domingo's Santana Yates. I don't envision to southfield with Santana Andreassen corners That's asking a lot of October. Cotto whoever else is playing center field but I also think they looked at this and said okay. How do we we shoehorn in a little additional offense and Santana four whatever you WANNA make defensive value which was just weird but I look back through and saw he. He was actually a good defensive a couple years ago. It just slipped my mind but for the most part. You don't envision him being anything other than just the guy that brings offense value and they didn't have a lot of sir fire ways to kind of raise their floor and I think that's what what's Santana does you could probably. If he's healthy. You feel good about him being at least a little bit above league average back and if he's that then that's better than what they had and going into this this Spring training if they didn't do anything to add to the outfield with some of the guys that were still left out there that would have been really head scratching so they put themselves in a position. Where long as one of those guys can handle right field and center field? Pretty well locked down. You hope that you can find an answer with the other eight nine guys. Whatever is that somebody can can go out and play a Westfield whether it's Jordan Lupo getting an opportunity against righties I mean. He just demolished left-handers last year Was Among the best in the League and doing that. And he was so good at it that they might give him an opportunity to be more of an everyday player. Okay so we'll see then you got bowers who has worked on his swing again throughout the offseason feels more confident but that's also something he was saying at At this point last year too so you never quite sure what to believe in Spring Training. If they've got a lot of bodies and they're GONNA get a lot of opportunities guys what they but at this point. It's it is clearly the the weakest part of this roster as far as just knowing what to expect the decision to Trade Corey Kluber was. Of course I already one that would be controversial but then you saw the return. Which was you know a a young relief prospects basically good one but young relief prospects and a fourth outfielder while I've just I've just leaned on the scales way too much. I didn't mean to have that tone in my voice. What is generally speaking the reaction to that to that move and and is there more anger about the decision to Trade Kluber given the return than there was before when he was merely being shopped. Or did it give that whole thing a sense of closure at least so that now It's not like the lindores situation. Where for instance we have to watch them continually being open to trading one of their most popular and best players. I give some credit to fans they. At least you can see. If you're if you're making a good baseball chain then you can maybe live with it a little bit more. You can survive through it a little bit better knowing the Kluber makes what he makes and the Roster. The financials are what they are. If you at least bring back something that you feel really good about. You can probably get over it. And I think that the Fowler trade is sort of evidence of that but when they when when the talk was initially out there you Kinda went back to what all of the discussion was last year with Cooper and you kind of set the Bar High. For what the returns look like for two time. Cy Young Award winner one of the best pitchers in your organization's history. And then you see what they got. Of course you're gonNA say I mean. He's a fine defensive player. Really good defensive player. Really good base runner brings you nothing with the bat. Okay well Emmanuel Class. Say He's a reliever that it. It really left kind of disconnect for a lot of when I think I've kind of maintain this all along. I think two things can be true about this trait one. You can be underwhelmed with the return absolutely considering what Corey Kluber is. And and he's I think the Indians are probably a better team on the on the roster and twenty twenty then without him on the roster given the return so that's one thing but the second thing is you can still look at Emmanuel close and go. Wow this guy looks like a really valuable bullpen piece in a place where the game has changed where they can't match up like they like to. You Know Terry. Francona has all these about three battle so they went out and got close. They they've got jeans check. They've got brad hand they're gonNA try to go about the bullpen a little bit differently and just looking at some of the numbers. You've got a youngster here who you can. Mold throws one hundred one mph cutters. That's exciting so I think and probably most fans are able to separate this a little bit. I think you can be underwhelmed and also excited at the same time and that's kind of the way a lot of people look at the scooper trait now. I want to ask you about another heart during right handed reliever maybe doesn't throw quite as hard. But unlike class say he gets strikeouts in droves. I want to ask about James Karen Check. I. I'm really interested in what his season will look like his minor league numbers. Were just off the charts. Strikeout rates were incredible. So is there any doubt that that will carry over to the majors is at one of those cases where you think? Oh this works in AAA but it won't work as well in the majors or is he basically right away going to be one of the best strikeout relievers in baseball. Huge question could really benefit from having a if they have first half red hand claw say Karen check in the back half of the bullpen. Then it really transforms that maybe being one of the most fun and maybe talented groups on the roster. But it's still is a question mark. You can look at the the strike outs. He rises each part through the system. And you can look at what his fastball does and can look at the rise and how he throws it being a guy that likes to utilize it in the upper top third and out of the zone and likes to bury the breaking ball and the way that he throws it to a little bit more over the top so it's a little bit more unconventional compared to what hitters are seeing. There's a lot to like there but it is. You're still talking about A relief prospect those sorts of things exist and a guy that is doing something that can be very volatile level the level year to year But there's certainly counting on him like I said with with a lot of changes now. Three battery kind of outlawing. How they'RE GONNA how they've used that him similar and Oliver Perez out the past couple of years they've got to look for guys who can give them full innings and Karen check quasi and Brad hand if that ends up working out for them? Then they're going to be real happy but again we're still talking about someone that is unproven. But there's certainly a lot to like and I know there was you know reports of him throwing and Out in good year in spring training a Lotta hitters already befuddled by what they're seeing it throws the fastball pretty much everywhere but he has had some command issues. But I'm I'm really excited to watch that part of this roster because it might be awful on some nights there might be an implosion but I think you're also gonNA see a lot of incredible pitching gifts and there'll be many many videos worth watching of of Karen check and trying to get through seventh and eighth inning. Cleveland'S MAKING US great at times in terrible at times Jose Ramirez. I think his season discussed endlessly last year and there were some good theories developed about why he had gotten all fouled up and how he got himself back on track and then of course he got hurt and we weren't able to see him demonstrate that he really was back to his old self for that long a time but should we believe is is the bounceback that he did have before he got hurt enough for us to say. Okay he's back. He's the MVP caliber. Jose Ramirez again. Or are we going into the season with still some doubts about that? Yeah about halfway through the year proclaimed I and out of the Jose Ramirez prediction business. Sit there and you'd look for encouraging signs right something that you just kinda cheap into and say okay the old Jose Ramirez coming back and anytime you think you've found something it didn't last and it got to be really confounding because you could. You could see through some of the metrics. There aren't a ton of differences outside of employing. The ball a little bit less than that became fun because he had old school guys screaming at their. Tv's and their twitter's east gotTa stop trying to pull everything and there's some of us. Maybe it should be looking to pull more. You should see more authoritative at the play But I think we saw enough down the stretch before the injury took him out of action. We that I feel pretty good about the old Jose Ramirez returning. It just never seemed right that guy. I guess you you've seen it a little bit in the past for guys just completely fallen off. The Indians had a second basement a few years ago when Carlos by go that something similar sort of happiness career that he was never quite hosted. Ramirez it it could not. I could not figure out a path in which he goes from being superstar. Mvp candidate to one of the worst in baseball and that just making sent. It couldn't make sense. We'd had enough of the sample sightsee that he's truly great hitter. I think as long as he's just doing the same things if made him special in the past. I don't see any reason why he can't just be again. The same star level. Count that we've seen for so long. Yeah the interesting theory which I think may be. His agent mentioned to us that he had got the shift in his head and he was trying to get around the shifts than so he had gotten away from how he was succeeding which was weird because clearly the shift wasn't holding him back all that much because he was really great. Why Change Anything? But yeah then he did change things and you got a gun so that will be as interesting to see as Karen check. I think all right. So give us a prediction. We end by asking our guests for a win total prediction. So how many games do you foresee Cleveland winning in twenty twenty? Yeah I duNNo. Everyone's so scared of this. I mean I. I'm wrong enough as it is there. I don't really care. Forget one more thing wrong. I've felt pretty strongly about Ninety being a good number for this team I thought with the Donaldson signing by by Minnesota that firmly put them ahead of what could have been kind of picking between these two teams going into the year. So I'm looking at probably three or four game gap between them and the twins and I think ninety feels good right between the twins and the white sox who are coming in. Look really fun but I don't think they`re. They're ready to make that jump yet. So I think ninety is a good spot all right you can follow. Tj On twitter at Tj Zubi. You can reach him at sports illustrated. Now thank you very much. No problem felt all right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back in just a moment with ti. Weaver to talk about that for Texas branches. All right we are back and we're talking about the Texas Rangers now with by Weaver. Who covers the ring? Jewish and I passed out the Rangers for the athletic. Fw In usually joins us for the previous Haley. Back welcome back. I am happy to be back as it is. Some glad picking me when Evan Grant is completely available and you could have had him that you chose me. Thank you now. He turns US down. Every what a jerk. Yeah so I was just reading the Rangers Essay in the Baseball Prospectus annual. Which is by is at Chrysler. And he makes the point that Rangers have seemingly done as decent job of acquiring talent over the last several years. But maybe have not done the best job of developing it in every case and he breaks down the numbers that the Ranger Scott one point. Five win replacement Claire from players that they developed according to his classification and sixteen point. One Wins BEP replacement players. They acquired so a lot of good with acquiring players not so great with developing players. And I know that scenario. They've invested in and they've also had some sort of false starts like they had at player development director who didn't even last year for them right last year. So what's going on in the player Development Front and and I guess what happened with the Matt Blood who was that guy who came and went in with the Orioles. Now Yeah I think that they have. They definitely recognized and and pretty openly admitted a little over a year ago. I guess maybe even more than that that that is a an area that they felt that they had been deficient in it. It's funny because for a long time you would see the Rangers at the top of all these prospect lists you had your jerks and pro far jubilee. Gallo and Nomar Missouri and all these especially in Latin America probably when when? Aj prowler was in Texas. They were kind of at the forefront of it and then I mean like a lot of things in life when you really successful at something. You don't really see the need to change. And all of a sudden he kind of looked up and the rest of the league had pass them by. And so you're they. They have invested a lot. If there's been a lot of turnover in player development and I do think it's GonNa take a few years for that to start to show up with Matt. I think it was just a matter of a bad fit and you know John. Daniels is the the only time I've really ever been on. His bad side is when I start to take a critical look at some of his front office guys. He's very protective of them. And so I think we're ever going to get a full story from him on. Why exactly Matt didn't work out but John's explanation for it was that he basically took one guy and said hey handle this and He said maybe he thought he probably put too much on his plate and he said blood to his did go in and start making changes and saying. Here's how it's going to be. We're going to do this this this and this and kind of a lot of guys that have been in the Organization for a while. Maybe weren't quite ready for that much. Change at one time and you know. Who's this new guy coming in and saying all these things to us and I mean I'm I'm speculating? I have transferred from John Daniels. Thoughts to my own somewhere in the middle of that sentence. I did feel like there's may be some resistance there and and So maybe just was not the right fit for the job and to the Rangers credit. They acknowledged the mistaken. Tried to fix it and it will be really interesting to see how that development process goes over the next few years as they continue to refine and at and replace pieces in the in the front office so last year a little bit more than a third of the innings went to pitchers who had raised over five point. Seven five Shelby Miller years. Yeah I think he. I counted him. Triple everyone his innings. I counted triple 'cause they bled over but I mean that's a lot of innings going to sub replacement now. Technically because of the the ballpark factor. And all that not all of those were actually sub replacement but even if you just look at sub replacement innings about a quarter of them went to that. Which on the one hand if you're looking at the offseason plan it's very easy to identify places where you can make big improvements in so they invested in more reliable. Starting pitchers that will absorb many of those innings. And maybe that's a great turnaround but I'm wondering if you if those five hundred or so innings were more a reflection of you know it a gamble that didn't pay off where they got a bunch of these like TJ survivors or a plan. That was not well thought out or that lack of depth because the organization has not been able to produce you know depth in talent from within for a long time and it left them sort of very bear. I think it was probably more the first. He was a gamble. Pay Off you have to remember like Lance. Lynn was kind of a gamble. He had not a great first half of the season before with the twins and then went to the Yankees and waiting that in the right order he he was bad with one in good with the other two. The twins good with the Yankees. But Yeah Right. I think maybe he did eventually pitch some meetings out of the bullpen. But in any way he was he was kind of a gamble and he paid off Mike. Minor was another one of those guys that was coming off of injury and he was a reliever for sure With Kansas City and Texas was one of the teams gave him an opportunity to start so those two guys were gambles that did work out and then guys like drew smiley even going back to Doug fister you look at Shelby Miller and Volquez those guys that it didn't work and so I think that is probably part of what you saw this year where they were like. Let's not do that again. And part of that was that they were not they were never really in a position last year where they thought they were going to contend to in twenty nineteen and so they had the kind of the leeway to take some more of those gambles and this year. I think with the new stadium. They're wanting to be a bit more competitive and so there was less room for risk as far as those acquisitions went as far as depth. Goes I I think I'm really interested to watch the rotation and AAA this year. You've got Joe Palumbo Colby. Allard are the two primary ones Taylor. Her and if he comes back from his injury last year then I mean who knows what Arielle Geraldo is GonNa be Johann tremendous asserts to fall off a little bit after that but but there is some death now that they think is going to be good near the end of this year or going into next year. So yeah I think it was just more that they had the leeway to gamble and it didn't work out on on those other non minor or Lance. Lynn occasions. Lynn by way. His first outing as a Yankee in his last outing. As a Yankee were in relief and all the others were starting so you can either take that to mean that. I have a very full picture of his entire stint with these or you can just forget I said it. I WANNA ask about Lynn and minor because so linen minor were basically like if you look at Baseball Reverend's war or if you look at fingers were they were like two of the four best pitchers in the American league last year by war and you could make the case. That young voter could have justified pudding. Either one of them over the Astros to pitchers if depending on which site they were at and you know they're always years where players who were pretty good have amazing seasons and we know that that doesn't necessarily reflect their true talent level and that they will regress or whatever that that was like their career year but I feel like with linen minor in sort of a different challenge because I feel like there's not broad acceptance that they were even actually that good last year that that there's just has to be something Janke going on with either like the V two runs allowed adjustment translation or with the park adjustment or with something like there's way that Lance Lynn and Mike Minor. Were actually as good as Justin Verlander Garrett Cole last year I think that would be the broad consensus if you pulled people who watched like baseball a little bit and so you watched the Rangers a lot. Is it true that landslide and Mike minor were roughly at the level of Justin Verlander Can you accept that as a true fact there is some cognitive dissonance there? You're right but but watching them pitch they were really good and for Lyn. I think it was really interesting. Because he did not get off to a strong start in Texas. He's always been kind of a fat while. First and second third fourth and fifth guy and the the team really had a sitting down. Look you're you're GONNA do better. If you use your secondary pitches more and then in addition to your two seam fastball. Let's give you a four seam fastball. And let's work with both of those. And so his ability to change his pitch selection and his sequencing was really. I think the key to him being successful last year so I do think he was. That good minor had a couple of blips where he wasn't. Grady said he had some mechanical issues. And I was. Whenever the team was in Milwaukee he was talking about he finally had it figured out that he was maybe a little sore or a little banged up and so he was over rotating with his hips and trying to really hurl the ball in there and he needed to be more controlled and more poised so I will hear it from those guys in from their management from their GM. So I will get an optimistic just by virtue of. That's who I'm hearing. I'm GONNA probably believe him. Where automatic truth there. But it's not. I mean they were. They were on that level. I mean they really were impressive and both of those guys had over two hundred strikeouts minors maybe with an asterisk depending on if you believe Abraham or not but neither of them were as good as. Let's let's not get crazy here but you could make the argument. That either of them were may be better than Verlinden last year or at least on the same level yes so as Sam noted. There was a lot of activity early in the off season. The rangers sort of rebuilt that rotation and brought in Jordan lyles and Kawkab Sin and then traded for Corey Kluber and then the off season sort of petered out. And you wrote about this last month. I think that they're just didn't seem to be the same momentum there so was that a result of the plant that their interests go get the guys they wanted and then they said okay. We're done or because they were rumored to be interested in other guys. Were they interested in spending or acquiring more and that just didn't work out I think the latter they I got the sense that they were really disappointed in how things played out with the Anthony. Riendeau negotiations we didn't hear this directly from the GM but a couple of sources told me that they basically made the first pitch and thought that they were making opening offer and then that was the last conversation that they had and get a chance to match kind of think. They I get the sense that they would have matched on down at third base and so as they been sort of pivoted to all right is Nolan are not available is Kris Bryant available. After this whole thing plays out we need to know how many years have control. We're getting but what's the price there and I just. I kind of get the sense that the price was too high and so they just decided. Well let's Todd Frazier for now and then let's see if the price changes in May June or July. I think that Kinda gives them the opportunity to see there. There are so many question marks in the offense right. Now you know as Ronald Guzman Rig. No door Elvis Andrus. All three of those guys had down years last year. Are they going to be able to kind of come back in two thousand twenty to be more of the team? Expects THEM TO BE Joey Gallo. Could he do what he did in the first half for a full season? Can Willie Calhoun. This is going to be his first full season in the big leagues. How's that GONNA look is Shitsu GonNa age gracefully is routes and Charleena's going to age gracefully? Was that a career year for Danny antenna or is that just who he is now whereas Naxalite GonNa play like literally every position on the field. There's a question mark and so it gives the team a chance to go. Hey go out and prove it. If you can be in contention and in June and July with the lineup that we've got if all of those question marks or at least a good number of those question marks can be answered with a positive answer. John Daniels does have a good track. Record of the teams in contention. Let's go get somebody and he will pay the necessary price. But I kind of I can see the strategy that goes why would I go out? And overpay for aeronautical right now when we don't know if he's going to opt out after two years why would we overpay for a year? Kris Bryant and then come out and fall flat on our faces and then we've set ourselves back on some of this development and some of these young guys that we really think are going to be something so I do think it is again another gamble that hit the team is good. Then we'll go. We'll go pick somebody up but they're not there's no sense in making that acquisition and further depleting a farm system that we really have worked hard to to build up over the last few years so that I kind of think is where they are right now. It was sort of surprising that they came out of the gate so fast and they were so aggressive. Because it didn't seem like they were particularly close to being a contender or at least a favourite and so I wondered why they had picked this off season to start making moves and you think that is a product of the ballpark. Which was one theory that you ballpark. You WanNa put a competitive entertaining team on the field. Or do they think they are closer to being good than maybe the projection say or just. Organizationally are a verse to not contending not competing not at least trying to signs of veterans. And make a go of it. I think you've identified all three all three factors. We've talked to the front office in the past about rebuilds see organizations like maybe like Houston. Did they were sort of the the blueprint for this new wave of tanking and you see what Baltimore's doing right now and teams like that. I think they hate that. And don't ever want to just be a terrible awful team at honestly. I don't know that they've got the cash in a sorry stadium. Music just started to try and cover up the microphone a little bit up. I don't necessarily think they've got the CACHET and football town to endure years and years of being really really terrible and so I think they kind of have to stay somewhat relevant question. Is that music too loud. I've charming it's I mean it adds color rate. We know that you're you're definitely spring training now. I'm sitting outside because the press box by his awful and media room has other people at that. I don't want to annoy I literally have like. I'm wearing a Hoodie. And my stretching the hood over the microphone right now trae under guard societies. Once we did an episode with somebody who is in a Tokyo Diner. Yes and that was. Oh Wow louder yes okay okay. We'll I'll just try and keep this block as much as possible and try and get through it. So back to the The early movement in the offseason as opposed to the the lay movement. And I'm going to stay a little bit here. I was thinking about Corey. Kluber trade which seems like a particularly for what they gave up is a good move and you could probably justify every team in baseball making that move but you could also. Kluber seems to me to make a lot more sense right now to a team that is is likely to make the playoffs because he's boomer bust if he if he's success than you've got your you know a playoff ace and if he doesn't then you know that's sorta baked into the risk and the rangers like if if Corey Kluber is corey. Kluber the CY young again. It probably pushes them to like eighty one wins. It doesn't make them a playoff team. Let alone land him in the postseason and so it's sort of odd that that's where he landed. It seems to me but I wonder how much that move. And also the earlier moves to get Gibson in particular. Were based on the assumption that they or the optimism that they were. GonNa Land Renton or somebody else. If they had known that they were going to not land Linda rendering down or somebody else. Do you think that they would have done anything differently? At the beginning was that were the early moves kind of based on an assumption that the rest of the offseason was going to go in a different way. And do you think there's any regret there at all? I don't know that there's regret but I do think you're onto something there that if they had known that they weren't GonNa end up with not. Let me not that. Todd Frazier is like a scrub at third base. But he's getting older and he's probably way more effective against left handed pitching than right handed these days if they had no. That's how it was gonNA play out. Yeah yeah maybe they would have been a bit more of reticent to to go out and just jump all over the the market early but also I think those are guys that they think are maybe going to be two to three year guys and so when they are contending. Whether that's this year or next next that maybe those are guys that either can still be here or that. They can flip for pieces. That will help them in those years. So I don't know that there's necessarily regret but I do absolutely think that that was all part of one planet and there's always in front offices of Plan B implants Ian Contingencies for contingencies. So I don't think it was. I don't think this was something that they didn't have a plan for. But I certainly think that yeah I mean going after. That was their primary target this year and they didn't get him. Daniels is the longest ten year. Gm other than Billy Bean. Brian Cashman at this point. I guess unless you count Kenny Williams who still involved with the white sox and so is he in that sort of situation that beaten cashman are in where they're almost the faces of the organization and it seems like. They will outlast everyone if they want to that. Their jobs are essentially lifetime appointments now or is he still under some pressure to win might have been reluctant to do a tear down and rebuild because he might have had trouble lasting so I guess how secure is his position and and is that based on just the past successes or great relationship with ownership. I mean I think taking the team to the first two world series champion championships. Jeez that would've been nice other than I. Two World Series appearances does give him a little bit of leeway and I get the sense that ownership has faith in him. I also don't think it's like you're saying with with maybe CASHMAN are being i. I do think that there is a scenario where this new not a full tank. But quasi rebuild doesn't work out and a lot of these new player development tactics three years down the road turn out to be a bust and A. I don't think his out of these on the Hussy this year but if if they look a few years down the road and go. Hey you through this process and it didn't work and now we're in or mired in mediocrity for the tenth straight year then at that point. Yeah I think he's as vulnerable as anyone to being replaced. There's GonNa be a new ballpark that opens this year. Of course and the old ballpark was such a kind of consistent character in Texas baseball. Like for twenty six years. We we knew that the ball was gonna fly. It was Um you know the coors field of the American league and that had some some effects. I assume on on team building on the ability to get through a year with a certain roster. Do you know if if there was any attempt in the design and construction of the park to change the way that baseball is played in Texas weather. There were were attempts to make it more moderate. And you know if there's been any kind of in-depth look either by the team or by people Writers around the team to estimate what it's GonNa look like on March thirty and how baseball is is going to be this year. So they've they've designers told us that they have tried to make it plays fair as possible as close to not being pitchers park where a hitters park as possible. And they've done you know models and computer models and run things through like miniature models with wind tunnels and all of this but without fail they always in that with but we just won't know until we played it and you can predict and you can put all the math to it that you want but until you put it into practice. There's really no no way to know for sure. Exactly how it's GonNa play so that is an interesting question and it's one that I will be watching throughout the year to see how those park factors play but I just don't. I don't think that there is any way to accurately predict it unless they intentionally put up industrial sized fan behind home plate. Try like try to make the ball. Fly Out Okay. But until we find out. I just don't think we're GonNa know let's just say hypothetically that it plays exactly neutrally. And that is your average ballpark. No longer a a bandbox. Is there anybody on the roster or are there many people on the Rosser or does the whole team? Do you think Face consequences from that. Are there players who you think would be affected more players who you think maybe if this were coors field if they replaced coors field with you know a neutral park? I think there'd be a lot of thought about a which players is that gonNA affect the most who's who's who's style of play was most suited to coors field and in On defense and on offense and in pitching is their equivalent effect in Texas so the Buffalo Pretty well to right field in Texas and so you start looking at left handed hitters with power and I think Joey Gallo probably supersedes all of that. He is able to hit the ball out of enemy ballpark. At anytime maybe Renault door because a lot of his struggles in the past. He's not hitting for great average on base percentage. But yeah he'll still hit. Thirty home runs if that goes down to twenty and he's still not hitting great average and and if those ten of those home runs. Turn into outs. Instead home runs. He might be somebody who is victimized. A little bit by Ronald Guzman doesn't have extremely good power. Anyway was probably benefited a little bit. So he's he's probably another one. I think any left handed hitter. Who kind of relies on marginal power is probably going to be affected. A little bit if it if it plays exactly fair. I think a lot of people wondered. Why do the Rangers need a new ballpark and also criticized the public funding aspect of it? Do you think there was a real need for being in Texas covering this team? In the heat there will be air conditioning. There will be a retractable roof. Is that a bigger deal. Then people are giving it credit for is that hello justification for a new car. Yeah and so. Let me preface this by saying I also had issues with the public funding aspect of it. I think that's an absolute rip off. That is just unconscionable and there's no excuse for it but the real mistake made when they made the old ballpark without a roof. It's not like it was a surprise that it was gonna be one hundred five degrees in July and in Texas and there it was dangerous. I mean there were. I remember Games where it was a hundred and eight degrees at first pitch and then the temperature on the field and the Bulls like one hundred twenty one degrees. So you're putting fan safety at risk. You're putting safety at risk. It was We had Emily Jones. Mike Co Hosts on On our PODCASTS. She's the sideline reporter for the Rangers. They have this is for cooking. You can point this thing at something and it tells you how hot it is. And she pointed at one of the chairs on the front row before that one hundred and eight degree game and it was one hundred forty seven degrees on the seat. And so you're you're you're cooking yourself. You're basically slow cooking yourself if you sit there and for anybody over. The AGE OF FIFTY. Five at the danger for kids is the danger. Evs lifted drink. Water all the way through your your cooking it's really unenjoyable and it's super not safe and so should have put a roof on the first one and I do think that it was a good move to go. Good roof like twenty. Six years is such a short life span for a ballpark and I hate to see it. Go just really wished that they put a roof on the first one. I remember ten years ago. There was a I think probably bleacher report. Slide show on like You know it was like a photo. Slide show of attractive fans and it was like your classic. Click Bait slide. Show was the twenty five hottest fans or whatever and I always wanted to do. The twenty five hottest fans in the stands like like in Puddles Adore. What is his kind of place in Texas? Lower is such an unusual player in so many ways just like a completely modern in unique profile as a hitter and As a as a value maker when he is valuable in often he's not so is he like beloved or despised among Texas fans. What will he be remembered for? And how controversial is he? So the best comparison I have is the New York City Police Department in that right after nine eleven you just saw the the bravery of those guys and they were National Heroes you saw people wearing nypd caps they were. They were basically like America's favorite team of cops and then in the twenty years since you've seen so many. Oh stop and Frisk happened and there has been so many videos of them misbehaving and I may. I may regret making this comparison. Because that's a much more serious topic but now they're kind of in a lot of circles reviled and like. How bad do you have to be to go from being the nation's heroes to being somebody that people are skeptical of? Come and get your get your get your life together Ruth Negga door punched Jose Bautista right in the face and he immediately became a full Kiro in Texas and he could have gotten elected governor of the state on that day and in the years since things have not gone as well for him and I almost hesitate to write about him. Because I know the comment section is just going to be absolutely toxic so I don't think he is The the greater there are a greater number of Rangers. Fans were ready to see him out of town and there are who still enjoy watching him play. I don't necessarily hold that opinion. I am really interested to see what he does this year. He spent the off season in Miami working with Victor Martinez Marcos Guterro. He's apparently kind of come around and figured out all this analytics hitting coaches are teaching him. I think he does have one more chance this year but if he gets off to another cold start I think that's probably the end of his His reign at second base in Texas because he got Nick Zolak in the wings. Just sort of waiting to take over and so like is absolutely going to hit the ball whether he can play defense or not remains yet to be seen but yeah I definitely think go door is on his last legs as a as somebody that the fans are not going to just start doing every time. He comes to the plate if if he doesn't figure it out this year I guess. Violence is the answer in NATO doors cases. You can't get on basis start punching people start seeing people think of him as being the worst thirty home run hitter in baseball and so I could imagine him being overrated by a certain segment of the fan base. But I mean it is like the case that has seasons have been pretty pretty good and so like in two thousand eighteen. He was according to value metrics. Does he get credit for that? When it's there or does the batting average in the strikeouts just overwhelming to do people actually not give him enough credit. It depends on how informed they are. I think there are a lot of short memory so at the end of two thousand eighteen. Like okay maybe it'll be all right. And then he stunk it up in two thousand nineteen and they ready to run out of town again so if he's good again in two thousand twenty. I think he'll be back to being. Okay I don't. It's been enough bad seasons now that I don't know that he'll ever he's going to have to put together two or three really good seasons in a row. I think to sort of regain that the good to begin back in the good graces of the fans so and I don't know why that is that he doesn't get credit for his good season that he's just because of the inconsistency has been consistently good so I think people are aware of how hunter pence turned his career around with Rangers last year. He was on the podcast. People know He. Reinvented his swing. But Danny Santana was maybe even more surprising season he had and he is still with the Rangers. And I don't have as clear sense in my mind of how that happened. And so how did that happen? Yeah we asked him about that and he said that he had after his rookie season. He's he put so much pressure on himself to produce. The huge is beat himself up after every bad at bat every time he made a mistake uses really down on himself and so when he was in Atlanta he started seeing a therapist Anna. The guy was basically telling him to stop doing that and helped him to go through. Breathing exercises helped him to visualize his plate appearances both before. And after the game so let. Let's he struck out and it was your fault. You've made a bad swing rather than beat yourself up about that. Go through visualize what that pitch was and how you would handle it differently next time and that gives you some sense of control like okay next time that happens. I'm going to do this better. And he said that that helped him stay calmer. He's not in the box still thinking about his last. Two at bats worry struck out. He is now in the moment and focused on this pitch and he's still got a lot last year but he did have quite a comeback season and and the Rangers see him right now. He's defacto starting center fielder. I think they view him probably as more valuable if he somebody that can maybe play like play seven days a week but maybe in seven positions a week but I think it was just a matter of going to therapy which is not an answer. You probably hear a lot but maybe we should and then I just want to ask about the corner outfielders to as a Joey Gallo enthusiast. I was really enjoying last season and was not enjoying the injury that cut it short. So I'm hoping that we will see what we saw from gala when he was healthy last year for a full season is that realistic. Do you think the changes that he appeared to make. We'll stick and then will calhoun. Is the other guy who was sort of a bright spot for the Rangers offense last year and you could give them some developmental credit for him even though he's not entirely homegrown so what's the outlook for him this year. So for Gallo. If he can stay healthy I do think that what he did was. I don't know if he's GonNa have opium of over a thousand but I do think he could be super megastar if he stays healthy. If last year was any indication for Calhoun. I think it is a really interesting to see how the season goes because lasts seat last off season so before the twenty nineteen spring training. He lost twenty five pounds. He stopped playing video games. He stopped not completely stopped but no video games after nine PM. That'd be able to intervene. Really changed his. He completely changed his life and we were actually just talking to Chris Woodward about today like they they worked together a little bit in in Los Angeles when they were both in. The dodgers system would sit back. Then it was. His whole life was just about playing video games and hitting Dinger's which sounds cool. That sounds ideal to me but I said now he is very dedicated in making this a life change and he's interested in the day to day that it takes to be a consistent bigly player he got sent down and camp last year was really tough moment for him because he went through all this change he really worked hard in the off-season felt like he had done everything they asked and still didn't make the team and This year when we talked to him. He's like man. I am past all that I will if they come. Ask Me to work out in the freezing cold in shorts and a do it because when I started following what they asked me to do I started to see the results and I trust them now and so I'm one hundred percent just if they asked me to do it. I'm going to do it and I don't know that that's you know there's. I'm just rebellious enough that I'm like Oh man they broke your spirit dude but but I think in his case it probably is going to be really beneficial to him. So I I I kind of want to see how that all plays out. I think he's going to be a very good hitter. The question with him as it is also select is will his defense be good enough to make it worth having his bat in the lineup. Every Day yes so you've written about so lacking us written about the versatility the positional flexibility that the Rangers may have this year. So how do you see select fitting if at all they? They're going to give him a shot to play center field and I've talked to a couple of scouts evaluators about that that were not in the Rangers Organization and to a man their answer equated to absolutely not so talking to Tony Beasley and Beasley was the one that turned roof. Netto door in from a subpar defender at second base into in twenty eighteen gold glove finalist. And so he's got he's got some skins on the wall and he says look the raw tools. Are there for a speed. All we need to do is teach them how to get a good break on the ball if he can read the ball off the bat. The there are no bad hops in the outfield. And he's never going to be an above average center fielder but he can just be average or even close to average his bad is gonNA make up for it so Tony Beasley things that can happen and if he does then that will allow them to move Santana around. If he doesn't then I. I don't know you know Todd Frazier's at third base. Maybe they moved him to I if Guzman struggles and let's go back to third but his arm is not he's not a third baseman arm. And you can kind of maybe mask a little bit in center field because you get a running start a lot of balls you can put your whole body into it. Third Base is a lot of situations where you have to pick it and throw and he just does not have the natural arm strength to do that. So it's I don't know I don't know where he's GonNa play. I hope the Centerfield thing works out and that would make everything else simpler but I had skepticism. Oh and I've gotTA close with Jeff Mathis question so Jeff Mathis. Wrc plus last year was to. That's not a longer number. It's just too and did bring back to Reno's this. Winter is that reflection of okay even despite what Mathis is bringing us defensively to is still too low number or does he get credit for linen. Minor and hitching turnarounds because if people are crediting him with those improvements than that really does. Make up for a lot of outs. Yeah Yeah probably both I. I think they realized they couldn't go to another season with him as their main guy. I think there's some thought that he had been a backup for so long. That may be catching as many games as he did was what caused him to be higher or yeah especially legs or whatever and not be affected. Yeah exactly and so yeah. There is absolutely the acknowledgement that we can't do this again. But I do think he also gets some credit for minor len. And so if you haven't been there as in a backup role where he's catching one of those guys every week or every start and still helping with a game planning with Torino's and the other guy and you're kind of almost serving as a another like sub pitching in coach type player. Then maybe that's a good role for him Where you can take the hit in your lineup. Once or twice a week where he's going to go out there and probably go over four but the things that he's doing behind the scenes are helping on the other days when he's not in a game. I think that might be the best possible role for him at this point his career. All right so we have come to the end. And we've got to ask you the prediction question so August. Always your favorite as I recall. How many wins do you anticipate in twenty twenty? I feel like I always overshoot this year. Everyone does it so I'm going to try and be less of a homer Let's go let's go eighty three all right so you can follow. Levi on twitter at Retu- ethos and you can read him and listen to him and you should at the athletic. Dfw always a pleasure. Thank you thanks for having me. That will do it for today and for this week. Thank you for listening. You can support effectively wild on patriotic by going to Chan Dot com slash effectively wild following five listeners have already signed up pledge some small monthly amount to help keep the podcast going and get themselves access to perks. Brett mullins Greg Burton Alex Stanford Sean Kivelson and Scott Kramer. Thanks twelve you. You can join our facebook group at Facebook.com/group/podcastbeyond Wild Kuchen rate review and subscribe to effectively wild on I tunes of the podcast platforms. Who can contact us? Send US your comments and questions via email at podcast at bankrate dot com or paycheck misting system if you are a supporter. Salmon. 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Mason & Ireland [HR 3]

Mason & Ireland

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Mason & Ireland [HR 3]

"I and it's time for fast track and let's see one side of the coin. John will make it easy parlay king big it easy the eleven grand tonight other side of the coin you go down in flames again. Give me this money now. Punch Parlay King Wings again yeah yeah of course I do excellent all right. This is for everybody. Everybody can weigh in on this. An actress named Kate Hackett packet sent out this question the other day on twitter all right listen carefully. You've been kidnapped your your kidnappers. Allow you to keep tweeting to pretend everything is all right. What would you tweet that would alarm your followers followers without the kidnappers knowing that you're asking for help I will see an example. I will give you mine. I would tweet this hoping that the three of you would figure out that something's wrong quote. I've decided to give up golf watching sports on TV whiskey and most of all reality -ality shows. It's time for me to stop wasting time and focus on myself. I would hope that you guys would figure out that something was seriously wrong. I would never give up any of those things mace. What would you treat to alert me and others that know you that something is wrong without tipping off the kidnapper kidnaper. I'm changing my allegiances. I am now a fan of the chargers. The clippers the bruins and the angels angels now what's interesting about that is at least in the case of the first to you used to be a fan of both of those teams and we had the charger games. You were back in the old days. Yeah you just when we had the clipper games the conversely fly on their playing in wants. Yes Oh so. That one's not that it's win. The bruins come in that I go okay. Is He okay because you've never rooted for. UCLA and we Angel Games for a long time yeah so I don't know Greg. What are you tweeting to alert us that something is wrong without tipping off the kidnappers. I was wrong. Steve Lavin and Steve Alford two head coaches in the history of Yusei were that you might as well send out. SOS funchess. What are you sending out to your followers. So people know something's wrong and you can't just say I've been kidnapped. Oh Jeez. Oh I duNno. I duNNO I. You can't come up with anything. You're just GonNa put you gotTa in this day and yes you hate shoes. You are no longer like your shoes. How `Bout that Michael Funchess owns many pairs of shoes. I wouldn't miss this also to keep me. I've I've I've now come to the conclusion that I've overrated Kate. Beckon sales looks trauma. They would write about this. I hope the Otter is our program director forever. You just teed. Give me up to do a really good one that I can't do that has to do with their previous time all right. John Joe Madden is no longer a cub but when asked about a losing season or a season that would have been less than successful. He says if you want to look into any more deeply it may have to do with behavior before the game. What do you do. I'm not accusing them of going out at night because I wish they would. That's the one part of this game. We're we're missing is the guys don't go out and have a beer and talk about stuff. That's not old school or anything. That's just social. Everybody is more comfortable wanting to stay in the room and play video games and I just love it if our guys interacted a little bit more away from the hotel at night. Do you think there's any credence to Madden's. Take one hundred percent. Yes as somebody who started traveling with basketball teams in nineteen ninety eight and here. I am twenty years later still doing it. I can tell you that the buses used to be eh filled with with interactions with guys talking to each other with guys making plans to do stuff together and now the buses this is her silent a lot of these guys stay in their rooms and play fortnight yup and very regimented the exception to all this is strangely. Lebron Lebron like when the Bryant gets on the bus. He's very friendly talks to his teammates. Often calls his kids. He Lebron's like a totally elite normal rational Ryan. He's like you know he's asking he'll he'll life of the party kind of keeping his teammates engaged and stuff but there aren't enough Lebron's and Joel Madden's right. There's not people do do you think he's right. I do think he's right. I mean I think it's not even so much as being social social. It's being antisocial right. People are actually antisocial now. Everybody is looking down at their devices. All the time and video games have become lay of life for for athletes on the road now so another thing Lebron. Do that's really cool. I probably shouldn't share this but I will because I think it reflects really well on every every once in a while. We'll be in a city and somehow the fans will find out where we're staying so they have to set up rope lines for us to get on the bus okay and every once in a while. Lebron will look out into the rope line and he'll yell to the Security Guy Upfront. Hey see that little girl with the sign he and and the security I'll go yeah. He goes get the sign. I'm going to sign up for it until it. I'll sign the Jersey to and in in the security guys go out and get the sign and get the Jersey the NFL watch these little girls and their even their parents start crying and Lebron just makes their day right just comes in signs it. He'll Lena you know he'll we'll go up to the window and waved to him. I think that's a really easy thing to do. He knows enough time to do it all the time. Yup but he doesn't enough where where like people notice and and it's a really cool thing I think most guys get on the bus put on their headphones and don't talk to anybody else which is really weird. I think when you're actually playing video games though a lot of the times you're playing online and you can still talk to people online so that's the same it's not the same but it's still you still are interacting with people and joking and having a having a fun relationship with those people it's still can. I don't think it's the same as going out and having a beer absolutely not you don't actually know somebody going out and having a beer or doing social things it's great for a team sitting them sitting down and playing two K. That's a great thing for them to yeah but they don't do it together. Well there's something might be wearing headsets the. They just think that they're like they're doing it to they're doing it against other people but it's not their teammates madden's right man they there is there is much much less team camaraderie than there used to be. I think he's on to something else. Check may here some of these being heavily debated across America right now. A lot of people were mad at the end of last week in response to a New York Times story that outed the whistleblower in the cranium affair as officer who wants detailed L. Did the White House now. The Times did not name the whistle blower. The newspapers critics accused the article of doing great harm to him in his career by supplying applying some of the details that would eventually lead to someone figuring out this just a generic question. Is it right for news outlet. A news outlets job is to inform the public right if they know the New York Times the La Times CBS NBC anyway if they know if a news organization knows the identity of a whistle blower like for the sake of this question. Let's say somebody new in one thousand nine hundred who deep throat what's right okay should should they reveal it or is part of being newsgathering where he's Asian in this country protecting the identity of somebody like like the guy's name was mark felt was due to his throat. We thought I years actually just in the line of you and I in one thousand nine hundred eighty four years after all the president's men men came out knew it and we had our show obviously we break it brings huge attention to the to the US but here here was a guy that probably did a great service to the country. I'm not sure how I feel about news. Organizations who know the identity and then elect or elect not not to reveal so there's a fine line between these two things that you're mentioning first of all mark felt was a source not a federally protected whistle good point in the case so in this case it is a federally protected whistleblower. These laws are designed to allow people to come forward in in states of emergency to be able to Leonard Law and there are wrestled blower laws their federal protections for a whistle blower so I think on the part of the New York Times. It's not not the right thing to do and again. They didn't reveal it but in in revealing some of the details this is goes back to who was it Valerie Valerie Plame claim right. I just think that that I I always say unidentified. Sources are risky but necessary. Sorry you know they. They provide us with some of the Great. You know answers to mysteries. We've had over. I see they they somebody'll come out and say even in a sports portray. They'll say well name your source well a lot of times the sources legit but he's you know the reporters protecting the source right right be it. I think there's value in that me two fouls tie one week ago team. USA was trailing New Zealand eight races to one in the one hundred sixty second installment of the America's Cup. This is sailboat racing. US has pulled off an unlikely comeback winning seven straight racists setting up a showdown on Wednesday Wednesday for the mighty Auld Cup Team Yours as America's Cup. Run is the greatest comeback. The America's Cup has ever seen in your opinion. What is the greatest sports quarts comeback of your lifetime all right so in sometime in the eighties because I was in college. My roommate told me never been to a hockey game right and I went. You've never ever been to a professional ice. Hockey game. I go kings are in the play offs tonight. I go the season's going to end in two weeks. We should just go down there so we go down to and they're playing that great. Edmondson team right Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier and Yari Curry and grant fuhr and all and into is really good so little by Little Edmonton Tint starts to bury the Kings Yup and by the middle of the third period with ten minutes to go in the game. It's five to one and the forum starts to empty and we just bought scalper tickets and we're sitting at the very top so as the lead continued to build we went down and down down and down and when it was five to one we were in the fifth row and with ten minutes ago the Kings got a throwaway goal. It was five to two with about Forman's together again. Another goal was five to three thought probably not anything to grant fears playing goalie for the oilers and when the minute to kings pull the goalie but it's still five to three right and twenty seconds to go. They get a goal and it's five to four. We thought wow this was is almost the greatest comeback sure enough. Twenty seconds ago wild scramble in front of the net five five. It's going over up in a playoff half game and in overtime Darrell Evans who's now the color guy for the radio kings hit a slap shot from the point in the Kings went 165. I they call it the miracle on Manchester. I have absolutely no idea how the Kings won that game. They were completely out-skated out played out everything everything and Edmonton actually they they so threw up on themselves in that game they ended up losing the series. It was right in the middle of their right but that is the the best comeback. I've ever seen in person and I'll never forget it to me. The greatest comeback in sports and I did not see it in person was the two thousand four red sox. Never in a million years did expect a team to come back from down. Oh three but they somehow were able to do it to beat the Yankees and of course get off the Schneider for the for the red. SOx historically historically so that remember that was in October Yup and I was the sideline reporter for the Lakers and so we were working preseason games and Allison Boegli who's now now the PR director for the Lakers grew up in New England so she said I just like to keep an eye on that you know even though they're down three. Oh and I'm like come on Allie. I got one TV. I WANNA watch replay. She goes just put it on the baseball game just in case so I left it on the baseball game and they WANNA game and so like three nights later another game show see I told you it's not over three to three so I watched that all on a black and white monitor with allison at the table able and they came all the way back and remember the game seven wasn't close great red sox bloom and got a grand slam early in that game I so what is your greatest non-sports comeback in other words somebody in entertainment somebody in politics somebody not in sports. COUPLE THINK'S GONNA mind. I'm a big Sinatra Guy. His career was over yeah. I've read every book on Him and he he basically tried to kill himself yep and just resurrected correct himself in the remember the movie from here to eternity played Maggio a young and that kind of got him back establish on that supposedly he got the part horses but in modern times when that that more people can understand people forget that rubber Danny Junior one night was so wasted out of his mind that he crawled into some he smack into a house and crawled into some kids bed and the parents called the cops and said Robert Downey junior is passed out in my kids bed yeah and and we all thought well. That's the end of that guy. He's got a unbelievable and now I think he's the highest paid actor in the world. Yeah yeah so that comes by how about you. I always think of Nixon who lost the California governor's race in nineteen sixty two then gave the famous. You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore. Speech ended up winning the Republican nomination and the election sixty eight and then I just I saw arenas raise. Zellweger in movie called Judy over the weekend. I heard she kills. She's unbelievable unbelievable. I mean where is she been for. The last decade I think it's going to amount to a huge comeback story for her. I think she's going to win best actress more fast track back in two minutes Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA back to fasttrack Ireland it's to us off track. Okay mic minor is a pitcher for the Rangers reviewed an interesting thing last Thursday. He was one strikeout away from two hundred for the season something he'd never done before in his career with one out. In the ninth inning the left-hander got Boston's Chris owings to pop up a one to pitch into foul territory minor catcher Jose Trevino and first baseman Ronald Guzman converged the ball easy pop up for the third out to end the inning but minor or screamed at Guzman to let it drop in front of him allowing owings at Bat to continue so Gutman dropped right right minor struck him out on the next pitch for his ninth strike out in two hundred of the season so minor got his milestone but he probably shouldn't have are you okay with how the Rangers played this or is this a tainted record well personal. It's a personal record for him. yeah. I mean I. There's something that doesn't look good when guys pay that close attention to their counting stats he'd never done it before. Yeah Greg any problem with them. Leading the pop-up up drop not in the slightest congratulations congratulations. You got two hundred strikeouts. It's your own team. No it was a pop up. It wasn't a play that was going to get him on Bass. Nothing really changed their. Let me let me play this to in a basketball contact. Ricky Davis right was going to get a triple double. He needed one more rebound yep so he it threw up a shot against the masjid on purpose in rebounded it to get his ten three men anything wrong with that was a little bit why this one he has to. He's he still has to get the strikeouts. I mean you're the next pitch main the next guy the next pitch could have been a home run. It's the same thing guys being too focused on accounting stash in. You're talking about the Texas his rangers here. Tinos completely knocked out that does apply here. Yeah de not playing for money for nothing running the game thing. I mean plainly think Boston but also game means. Absolutely nothing showed the two hundred strikeouts tweeds. Nothing now wouldn't that for him. I'm sure it does he can always say I got two hundred strikeouts wet every time he does. This is what this is. What's going to be remembered like my Papa. Meyer had a great season but when I hear his name I'll think of this. No we have because Ireland now because it actually happened no but by the way about it by the way so the Rangers manager immediately immediately took him out of the game after struck that guy out because he was at one hundred twenty six pitches and said after the game he was hanging on for the rent was the whole team just coming coming together to try and help him get they ass Alex Cora about it and who's the red sox. Manager knocks Corker said. Let's just say I'm glad my guys play the right way so core. It didn't like it yeah by the way. Do you think Dave Roberts would agree with you. He would have pulled whoever did it immediately but you have no problem with it but Dave Roberts also trying trying to win a world series this year Mike Minor and the Texas Rangers are fighting for not being in last place. I play the game the right way guy but that's not playing the game the right way. Macau's doesn't smell right now doesn't pass the smell test right so the thirty second horse has died at Santa's bringing this up after breaking both front legs Dr Dionne Benson Chief Vet for the stronach group which owns Santa Anita said the horse's death will be investigated and any factors that contributed to its death will be addressed. Meanwhile Pita Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo says the Horse Racing zing industry is only making things worse for itself by adopting safer practices what is going on at Santa. Anita should permanently be shut down and will we ever ever see the end of horse racing in our lifetime is GonNa go the way of the ringling brothers circus. This is fascinating question because to everybody that says just. Shat at CNN needed down. There have been thirty two horse deaths. I think in the last three years which is an extraordinary amount of death. Something is wrong. It has something to do with the composition of the track or the way that that the track is is being laid out air prepared so the easy thing is to say what are we doing. Shut the track down but if you do you put thousands of people out of work overnight so I I I understand there's worth all the horses dying of course not but so I understand them trying to get it right but they're trying to protect. Those jobs protect TECHNI industry protect. CNN mito which has been saying they need it. You can go back fifty years but thirty two deaths. are thirty two deaths. They've now tried everything to get this right after they had the twenty nine deaths last year. They said they were going to do everything everything humanly possible to make the safest track in America then on day two of the meat. This is the horse that went down. I think they've done that. I think they've done everything they can do to make it safe and for whatever reason they can't do it. I would suspend it. I would shut it down. I think you've tried everything you you can't make it safe. it's it's not worth thirty shantytowns sport. Here's the thing the Breeders Cup is supposed to be at Santa Anita November first and second protect in the sport possibly have the Breeders Cup under those conditions if the biggest moneymaker in the whole store or sties during the Breeders Cup. It is a disaster for the sport but we're doing they. Wouldn't you and I agree that thirty. Two deaths should be a disaster for the spore where is somehow. It's still saying if it happens during what is essentially the the super bowl of course. I think they need to move that event right away. It is a fascinating question. I asked track I don't know boy all right last one for me and this is GonNa be a weird game that all three view are going to to play and it might be fun or it might just be a disaster okay all right I'm half rooting for a disaster. Okay me too Steve Pele in for Mega funchess alright earlier this month. Miriam Webster added five hundred thirty three new new words and phrases to the dictionary. I have five of those. I want you guys to guess the meaning and whichever one interview comes the closest to the actual meaning. I'm going to award a point to and we'll see you as the most points at the end all right here's word number one fact Berg. FFA T. B. E. R. G. Greg. What do you think fat. Burg means that Berg Berg. I bet you it has nothing to do with being large either. I'm going to say it is a an iceberg that is moving faster heard then it should okay Steve. What do you think fat Berg. Fat or Gee. What do you think that is. He has half of what I was. GonNa say I would say to oversized is asks Berga Iceberg. Okay just a big iceberg right. Maze Fat Burg stands for Small Town outside Toledo Ohio. No I think it has to have something to do with that. I I actually think it does have to do with w-wait being overweight okay. This is tough but I think I'll let you guys debated. I think Mason's the closest. It's a large mass of fat and solid waste that collects in in a sewer system since Mesa was the only one who said it has something to do with fat but he's able to do with that. It's a combination of fat and ice. He's perk. I'm going to give that point to Mason. Although none of you really got close all right number two by the way disgusting Yeah Bechtol Aw Test B. E. C. H. D. E. L. Steve. What is a Bechtel test. Take a guess. I guess anything to test the Bechtel. I don't know that's that's a test of Bechtel interesting. Maybe I'll say it is a test for authenticity. Okay Greg. It is a lie detector test again. None of you are close but Mason Mason since probably the closest refers to a set of criteria used to evaluate a movie or other work of fiction on the basis of its inclusion Asian of female characters. How was Mason close test for authenticity so I'm I'm not giving anybody a point for that one. Ah Okay makes you go first on this one auto genomic training and you t O G I I see auto jeannik training. What is that I know that one that is somebody. It's it's training. I'm for people that want to work. In the business of driverless cars okay Greg. I'm afraid he actually does know what that is. I'm going to say it's it's a ability to train something in your genes to become what you want it yourself okay. Auto Gene Pele what I'm going to guess the proper way to detail a card details. Oh interesting none of you close cannot order point again. It is a self relaxation examination technique that involves repeating calming statements yourself all is well remain call all right tumour more robotic R. H. O. T. I C. Robotic Greg what is the definition of aerobic somebody that is a Rhodes scholar. Okay now not a bad guess Steve. What is the definition definition of robotic steal I would I would say some type of nervousness stored. Okay Mace. I will say it's mechanical. Meaning Roenick is means. It's something mechanical action. Okay none of close again. It's it's in phonetics. A aerobic dialect is one in which an are sound is retained in words like hod and car like you along ours. Here's the last one so in this two and a half in anybody can steal it clearly right. Steve Pellet call row Phobia Coal Ra- phobia. Co U. L. R. O. P. H. O. BI cool rough phobia. What does that mean. You're afraid to be around coal mines okay. I think it is fear of Colors Greg fear of bananas. I give it a Berkman out of viewer. Close is an abnormal fear of clowns but since clowns would have bananas in their act. I will give it to you. and this is for the new movie. It is out yes so everybody after watching it has Kohler of phobia probiotic got it. If normal fear of clowns okay that game turned out exactly how I thought it would last one jurors fast track all right yesterday it was at the rams game. It was the first what felt like a full day. It was a little chill in the air. It was like seventy so that's that's about phone so here is some multiple choice fall trivia. I've got seven of these. What word was commonly used before the sixteenth century to refer to the autumn season. Was it a fall be reap see crop or D. Harvest John Harvest the Harvest Harvest Harvest St Pellet. What do you think second one the second one. I'm sorry the correct answer is harvest how Greg and IRA with such authority and totally guests number two in the northern hemisphere autumn begins in September. When does it begin in the Southern Hemisphere. Is it a April be February see March or January Greg March. Greg says March steeple at February February to April February march in January gimme April April April for the lost Senator Is March. Hey paulette yet drag it. The board uh-huh Greg gotTa Guess March Greg. He's all right number three. And what autumn movie can you see. Richard Gere and Winona Ryder walking through beautiful fall foliage foilage is at a autumn in New York be Autumn Sonata see falling leaves or D. Song of Autumn we start with Steve Songa bottom song bottom. John Oughta me New York Katamon Greg falling leaves the correct answer autumn in New York. I've seen it many times by the have you seen it. Many I have who's the guy who's the guy that played whiplash J. K. Simmons. He's the doctor that tries to save winona Ryder at the end. That movie doesn't make it. Richard Gere is has has like a a romance with winona Ryder any cheats honor and it breaks her heart okay she gets a terminal disease and then he can't say spoiler alert right number four thirty two bergman which of of these birds do not migrate in autumn is a hummingbirds be raven sea swallows or D. Storks John. Other storks storks storks greg same again hummingbirds ravens swallows and storks ravens ravens steve swallow else swallows. St Paul stay scoreless but that's a win for Greg Bird Hay Pellet. How many are left to left. I'd pallets on on pace for a curtis. You can go the full curtis number five. What famous TV character spoke these words. There is a time of year in New York. When even before the first leaf falls also you can feel the seasons click? The air is crisp. The summer is gone and for the first night in a long time. You need a blanket on your bed. Is that a Carrie Bradshaw. A sex and the city be lady. Mary Talbot Downton Abbey See Claire Underwood House of cards. De Vanessa Ives Penny dreadful. It's to Steve Steve Pool. Let Claire Underwood Claire Underwood John. I go I go carrie. Bradshaw Bradshaw Greg Going Carrie Bradshaw. That is Carrie Bradshaw. I tried the Birdman Gary. Copying me for this. Wait a minute. This is significant pellet. Mrs This he pulls a curtis that is correct being the only person other within Curtis to get zero correct in a game now and call it a like a pellet. No we will not curtis. I don't WanNa take that away from him. Todd Fritz him just basically ruined the show people go first. The full moon closest to to the Eternal Equinox is called a harvest moon. What artist recorded an album of the same name. Is it a Glenn Fry be Stephen Stills see see Neil young or D Jackson Browne Steve Neil Young Neil Young album again harvest moon Glenn Fry Stephen Instills Neil Young or Jackson Browne. Unfortunately I think Steve Polit- got it. I think it's harvest moon. I think it's meal young I I'm going near. Young Neil Young to Bergman for the win. It is new in Pallet Avoids. The Curtis winners good jobs. Steve One to be proud. Out of the game is underway. It's three nothing bengals. All's I saw was Andy Dalton whip in the ball to tighter boyd a lot which is good for me. You're just pay me now. No no I did not see James Connor getting even one yard so that could be many many all all right coming up next. Let's talk a little bit about the dodgers postseason roster they will have decisions to make in the next couple of days as soon as they see who wins the wildcard game tomorrow night which you'll hear here at five nationals versus brewers it'll be brandon woodruff versus. Max Scherzer in that game they'll get to set their postseason roster dig into that a little bit coming up next for you Mason Ireland. Espn La what is up is Monday day after the rams lose at the Coliseum fifty five to forty and a stunner also this weekend USC lost at Washington Ucla losted Arizona the dodgers Audrius finished year on a seven game winning streak they finished with a franchise record hundred and six wins and they get ready to see who they're going to face on the NFL L. D. S. on Thursday at Dodger Stadium. I let's do a show meeting on the air okay so we'll let people behind the curtain but we normally talk about. I've been presented with a request assed that involves the Mason Roast. Okay okay okay now. What is the exact date of the Mason Rose October eleven commerce casino all right and I will be the roast master. We have several people the attending Yup several any listeners text the word. Roast Artemis says zero would be a bad idea. Okay part of me thinks this could be a very funny idea and vote for funny well. You guys may not think it'll be funny. Okay Hi John. May I please get a ticket to the Mason roast host since he hates my team so much from Clipper Darrell Greg yes or no it's fine by me. Anybody can go four zero seven zero five Daryl clip he sing. He doesn't want to compete for a ticket. He wants us to November. Give him one. Nobody's competing. If you text four zero seven zero five you'll get a ticket to the Mason Real. Get an invitation. Anybody wait a minute so until we sell it out. No anybody know eventually the company will reach capacity. They will just keep making it bigger. No they will not your mandible. No the rule he has has so many seats three thousand people right what happens when we get to three thousand won't make it then they have standing room. Three thousand people are going to be there aren't right now pool there there are over eight hundred unique texts that have come in about the tweet to four zero a seven Zero Person Yeah Okay Daryl. You're welcome absolutely welcome. I would bet with clipper sail for the first game of the season against the delivers. What did you what is your bet. I have to if if the clippers win I have to on social media do let's go clippers chant and if he loses who was is he has to in a Lakers Jersey say that the clippers that L. A. has been and always will be a Lakers and the clippers should move to Seattle. Oh God I'll I'll never root for the Lakers more than that night. That is fantastic great by the way he you. You cut a good deal for yourself there. No one cares about you. Don't make a big deal about him. Cares what the clipper clap is yeah. I don't know what it is either. What is it it's like. I'm not saying that allowed yeah. He clapping Salem. Go go go all right. Let's talk a little bit about the dodgers postseason roster first of all dodgers Roger Four and three this year against the nationals they were two and two in La too and one at Washington. Do you know what they were against the brewers they were four and two one and two in L. A. Three one and three in La there were four and three there are one and two and three and one the walkie okay so four and three so both both they won both season series. for three dodgers really struggled against Stephen. Strasburg is a team okay so here's a weird rankle. Jed Jerko who who is definitely not going to be in the crash no way owns Stephen Strasburg really. I bet you know what knowing Friedman and how he looks at numbers like that I bet you he'll consider putting them on their Jane. Stead a map beatty Jed Jerko owns Zach Davies who would be the potential number bruins starter in the LDS for Milwaukee owns over six hundred yeah overseas like own. You know how you guys know. Andrew Friedman thinks he's in Turco's in Matt Beatty would be the other guy and if Jerko has actual evidence that he he matches up well against them. Why wouldn't you right. I just and baby had a bad September. It's not like he's replacing Cory Cory seager but the only way it works is he's got a start in other words. If you'RE GONNA put them on their he must start against either Jack Davies or Stephen Strasburg so he's got to start start game one wait. A minute isn't trickle right handed hitter. Yes so you certainly gets the right handed Stephen Strasburg. He owns Stephen Strasburg. He own Zach Davies. I don't think it's going to have I think it's going to be baby so wait a minute but let's just play your thing out to the if Jerko starts. He's gotTa start at first right. You're not gonNA bench anyone else. He could start at second second. Sorry Gavin Locks 'cause you're gonNa Start Max Muncie at first and maximum Max much second. No no he'd start at Second Muncie would know in Jerko would play pro would start at six. You can get away. I guess you could flip it. Yeah both have experienced. It's a Max. Maybe a slightly better second base but he's not good to second baseman. I don't think this is gonNA happen. It's a scenario that that's weird because we're looking data today and I just think it's fluky. Although Friedman loves analytics he does get a tweet from somebody that said Friedman's. The deals up at the end of this shit is there's no question they would just pay whatever he wants right. Hope so oh come on he's won every year. He's been here he's got to. He's got to wait a minute. I just thought about something knows not Joe Man. No no no no no no no. That's not what I'm thinking. John Henry could could give him an offer. He can't refuse the red sox. Shops open okay so I've heard of absolutely no speculation about Andrew Friedman leaving me there just just to be just to be clear on it but wouldn't you if you were the red sox deals up if if you want to leave I let him get a win to right. I think that what all that will do is drive is price yeah. Jerko seven for seventeen versus Stephen Strasburg Betas one for two. I think I think map eighty is going to be on the postseason roster. I don't think it's going to be jet jerk. If it's not mad beatty the only wants to possibly see making it would be Austin Barnes which I know sounds crazy. Third CAT has a cabinet before last year. Rocky gale was was on the roster is at third catcher in the so and I think for the most part we're going to see will smith catching Max Muncie at first Gavin locks at Second Cory seager at short jt at third bellinger in center pollick Peterson and left in pollock and right and flipped to Chris Taylor against a lefty but I think that's generally going to be the lineup every day in some order whatever comes out of the Computer Lineup Machine Mason Ireland. ESPN panel a top of the hour is the Sean mcvay show. It'll be less need tonight filling in for Sean with J. B. Long and DEMARCO far. I put out there. What is the greatest greatest sports comeback up all time this came back average joes Jim versus global oddball not a bad one combat. Hey after the mcvay show seven o'clock. Walk Lakers talk with Alin Sleep. That's driven my my Guy Matt Unger at lexa Santa Monica Intuitive Santa Monica those are both part of the car guy family viewership so closely with talking Lakers at seven and it is five forty nine sports fans. What's the game plan with your kids when you get home tonight. Here's an idea take a walk around the block and count how how many houses you see talking reading and singing changes everything go to I five California Dot Com to learn more. You know what Alan Sleeping needs nickname oh. I think we could take care of that. Let's brainstorm a little bit before we just blurt one now a nickname he'll do something something on one of those shows that will present to us as a nickname so this is slee was not a catchy name yeah. We'll we'll work on. It's not bad had you also hate. He thinks that shack is the greatest center of all. That's true so you know we call them. Dumbo the the anybody who doesn't think Kareem as the greatest laker center of all time is an idiot the big Dumbo but both he the executive chairman of the Padres is a guy named Ron on Fowler okay okay so he just met with a group of fans at Petco Park Yup and he basically let the entire team have it he he said that Will Myers offense is no good Eric hosmer defenses no word and heads will roll beginning with mine if the team does not begin to have success in twenty twenty and impala Jay's profusely for an embarrassing twenty nineteen in a phone interview later. He said I wasn't spitting fire. I don't run and hide from stuff. It was a terrible year to be forty five and forty five in winning twenty five games after that God forbid it Andy Green. The manager was fired but at the end of the year. I'm one of the guys it's rumored to be in the running for that is Mike. SOCIA- who could go down there but here's the here's my question. They're gonNA pitching do they. I mean they they they. They paid ause Moore paid. Manny Machado paid. We'll meyers today. I'm enough pitching Chris. Paddock is going to be a really big star. Chris Paddock is twenty one years twenty-one. No definitely need that pitch by the way. I don't think social fitted all down. Dr J. Prowler is one of those analytics guys. I mean if if the story line is to be believed that's not something that Mike social loves yeah but he could. He could convince him otherwise. Can we just agree at some point that Mike Sosas done managing your and I was thinking. Would it be eh insanely weird if okay so for five years. Joe Madden was Mike Socialist Bench coach right so oh. Shes a baseball lifer. Would it be weird if their roles reversed member done Zimmer was Joe Tories bench coach. Andy the NFL wants to go back to the angels as a bench coach and May that makes less so here are the here are the odds in Vegas on the next Padre Manager. They will bet on anything Joe Madden plus one fifty and now we know madden is going to the angels right. Yep Mike Socia- plus three hundred Mark Loretta plus four hundred Joe Girardi plus six hundred Ron Washington and plus six hundred then Eric Chavez Rod Barajas and Bruce Bochy Bruce used to be the manager there yeah it'd be interesting if social consider that oh come on he's not going to consider that Joe. Joe happens a lot yeah but I mean I'm Zimmer. Who is the manager of the cubs came out of retirement to be Joe Tores bench coach with the Yankees when they went on that huge run yeah I in a million million years. I don't think that's happening in a million years for does you heard it here. First on speculating speculating wild speculation wild speculation. I'd coming up for you and a couple of minutes is the Sean mcvay show less need. I had had a had an idea. The rams offensive line has been not great really a weak spot as SAM. Monson told US earlier Jared Goff faced thirty pressures yesterday offensive line also had six penalties for five penalties four false starts and a holding call you know Trent Williams of the Redskins is reportedly on the trade bloc. No no not reported the he is. He would be phenomenal as a pickup for the rams. I don't know if they can make it work under the salary cap or what the financial details are but but he would be unbelievable for the rams yeah. I you know I mean that's the that's the one thing that has left tackle now. We're still wait. Worth is right. You'd have have to slide somebody over the right tackle. Somebody would have to play for a year. I think I was at the end of his career or if the story eight now so conceivably for a year ear but the offensive line something that they absolutely need to address it something that I'm sure we'll be talking about which ab long and DEMARCO far coming up next for you okay remember tomorrow. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 824 Reviewing Justins ME Qualifier Draft

"More questions about the draft. Does we're going? All right three two nine. Episode Twenty Four. Eight year we go. Hello and welcome to Episode Eight, twenty, four of the sleeper and the buzzed. It is Thursday July second. I'm your host for joined by Justin. Mason Justin Good Morning Sir Good Morning. Worry you. It feels good to be alive right now like I did my first draft last night. Since you know, the season has started back up again. It was a fun experience. it was. is opening in a lot of ways so. It was It was a lot of fun, so if you WanNa Watch, you can go over my youtube page. Think is just Justin. Mason F WF. Just Mason fantasy on Youtube and. And watch the the three hours of our amid qualifier, which will talk about here in a little bit but man. It was this season, maybe kind of shit show, but it was fun to draft. Maybe says as if it won't. Aggressively be. But. He had fun drafting and It's back and there's going to be a lot more draft, so we're going to see how everything goes with it. We do have some news to talk about. Speaking of the aforementioned should show There's a situation in place where they're not going to say. When guys get covid. But they're going to put them on the I l. with an undisclosed ailment, so we'll never have any idea. Yes, go. To figure out I mean. We won't know for sure, but we'll no I mean yeah, I, mean thousand says okay. Okay well now. Of. Course will know like. Back injury leg injury arm injury undisclosed ailment. Wiz Up. I wonder. I wonder anyway. We're GONNA get into these new into these news notes here. Trade that happened then we'll talk about your main event qualifier. Let's start with a non Kobe. Elston and actually kind of a little bit of a scary one Jose can Tana was doing the dishes cut up his thumb. And? He's going to be out for a while required five stitches he. Had to have it nerve repaired. Left hand, so it's throwing hand. This isn't good. This seems very bad. So he's GonNa. Be Out three to four weeks. Yet. Excuse me one imagined. This will put Cantona at least three or four weeks behind at the beginning of the season. That's going to ensure that tower chat would get the spot without mills, likely looking at maybe getting a spot himself chatwin was probably only going to be the fifth, but now he's locked and loaded, and then Alec meals has a chance. I have not like this cubs pitching throughout, and this doesn't help. It's basically like Darvish Hendrix, and that's it. You know even Lester I'm not that confident can. Uber Confident in, but I did like him as the third best. Their cubs earn some trouble now. Yeah, I think they're in a ton of trouble. Because depending on what you think of I mean I like Ian Hat, but the bottom half that lineup sucks. The bullpen sucks. And now the back half of that rotation sucks. Enemy holes. It's not like Akinsanya was great to begin with but I mean this kind of takes him off your draft I. Mean I don't know. They said how long he probably going to be out for I mean he could. He'll be three to four weeks behind when the season starts. That's half a season sounds like. Don't drive. You can't Charles and. I wouldn't even pick him up. When he becomes available, he was working on a new change up grip. anyways, you got to imagine that any sort of nerve damage. will affect that. He doesn't have a high enough upside to warrant drafting when he was healthy, and now I don't think he obviously even has enough upside to. Pick up much less draft yet. I mean it's. One hundred percent over for this season as far as I'm concerned with. Any, consideration us. They can Tana hope everything. Gets right with his thumb, and it's not a long term thing that carries over beyond this year, but that that's that takes them off the off the eligible draft board as far as I'm concerned. Move over to Philly. Scott King Hector Nears Tommy. Hunter Ranger Suarez on the I l. with an undisclosed ailment. I wish I could figure out what it was On unrelated report, they recently had a group of guys. Test positive unrelated. These things are not related. Of course. They're not I promise. They're not one thousand percent. Inextricably linked. In one hundred percent what they have I promise I have no idea what they have. It's an undisclosed ailment. How could I know just? How could I know? Okay so obviously listen by the way. This is not me mocking the the. Policy desire to have. These guys not have to have their Kovin, you know. Positive out there in in the world, because I think the Blackman's were pretty pissed when. It was it was revealed that Charlie Blackmon. They tested positive. I'm no problem with that I'm saying they have not found a way to not make it obvious as. Because? I would. Not Be convinced that that's not what kingery narrows hunter, and Raiders Suarez have so. All due respect to Mr Hunter Mr Swoboda's kingery. Embarrass are really what can add from fantasy angle here. And they're both all formats. draftable narrative was looking like a one of the better closers. Once you get past that that I, you know small group. There of of stalwarts I think he was in that next group that people really liked on a solid team, and then kingery did some things last year. People still looking at at another jump from him. Possibly so this is not great Let's talk. Let's talk about Kingery I. Are Now I forget what we talked about. Black men with regards to covert players. Something that you WanNa. Draft them. Because, they're getting it. Early. Even though there's no guarantee that they can't give it again. Like how are you approaching the overall issue? As far as players who get Kobe before the season starts I had originally said that it wouldn't necessarily scare me away if it got it early like now because they'd be recovered in in symptom free by the time The Season Got Rolling I'm GonNa Backtrack on that because we have seen plenty of people get, and it's not like a two week illness. It can be like you know we quarantine. Yeah, but it does not a magic date that you're just better than and so I mean my. I don't have a problem drafting a guy that's gotten it if he's back with the team before my draft. Okay. now, so for instance like last night. I obviously did not draft Charlie Blackmon. Okay and I for my first main event which is next, Thursday! I will not be drafting Hector Narus or Scott Scotteri. Yeah, I won't either I mean unless they fall so far I mean everyone has a price. Right gets stupid and you start talking like twenty fifth pause around sitting down like that or even twentieth round I think for like narrates I think I'd have to look at I guess. He went in the bottom of the eighth round last night, actress did and kingery went in the twelfth I see right now and so I couldn't imagine drafting heiress before. the fifteenth. K. and King Green before the twentieth and kingery. I don't even know if I would draft kingery at all. I mean I guess maybe like the twenty fifth. I'm looking at players like Kiosk Hernandez one of the twenty fifth round I think until I know I'd rather have narrows, or for instance I took Brandon Nimmo on the twenty second round. I in Justin, Smoak, winning twenty second round so maybe you know. The twenty third round is where night start looking at it and smoke just hit a big uptick on your first base rankings that came out. Yeah, because the for the NFL I imagine yes, yeah. So yeah. I've probably not drafting either guy. Considering where I think they'll still probably go. That's the thing you know you're. You're saying that the the. Round with which you would look at them. But. I doubt they're going to necessarily fall that deep, so it's pretty much no go for you and I understand it with regard, scenario and kingery king. He's one of those guys that. As somebody who who definitely favors positional flexibility. I think he's actually coming in with third this year. And if leagues don't. Adjust. Eligibility rules. Actually have third and outfield. But if leaves don't adjusted eligibility rules. It's hard for players to add more. Or established new ones for next year. When you have to have twenty I think every site. ABC's already said it's going to be four games. Right, and so in out wars, and in Labor both said four games. I think most sites will probably do. For Four Games Yahu doing you know one inning. And I think I think sites will make a determination. Todd's I, think it was set on the wire podcast like the way league should do. It is figuring out how many is like? I think thirty or forty multi to Charlottesville eligible up. While can't speak right now. Multi eligible players this year, so figure out what would make around that for next year after the season so is it seven games eight games at ten games? And and use that as kind of a barometer for for the next year. That makes sense that makes sense Yeah, it looks like. Seventy Games. This year would be the equivalent of the twenty games over a full season. To have somebody acquire new position that they can hold for next year then. You, said a lot of sites into four games in season. So that'll work, but yeah. That was one thing I was wondering about. Because kingery can play second you know. He played short in twenty eighteen, and obviously they have guys there, but of course you know players bounce around injuries happen so and he was a double double guy last year, one, thousand, nine, hundred fifteen steals skills weren't insane. Those kind of a League average hitter twenty six years old, but I I was liking kingery bit I'm GonNa Peel off here. Based on on this undisclosed ailment with narrows. There's definitely a price, but I agree with you. It's probably not gonNA fall to it because people are still pushing. Yeah there's a saves panic and I'm GonNa ask you about that in your draft. If it's played, if played out because I've been hearing it without any drafts yet, just as far as draft prep, people been talking about pushing them up and getting the stable, the more stable guys because they don't want deal with the with the trouble of it in season and I totally totally get that. One other Guy Brain Injury Kind of a deeply sorta thing ailing maybe last two rounds of a fifteen team also completely unknown impossible to figure out ailment. Put Him on the I l.. In, other news, also unrelated. I'm sorry for these non sequiturs Toronto. Had some guys get Kovin? I don't know could. It could be linked doubtful. I'm kidding obviously laying on the sarcasm pretty thickly here again, but it's it's just it's just so blatantly. Brennan Has Kelvin and That's going to kind of take him out of the makes there and again this was deep deep league. Only I imagine he's off. You're bored, even in like only. Yeah, he's off my board as well. It actually makes Travis Shaw. Even more interesting on today will yeah, because now there's no platoon partner for him. at least. Initially so. I think I mean they obviously could bring somewhat up from their squad. I may be. They bring up like a Kevin Smith. Can't really play I o Jordan Groshans if they want to start the clock on him after seven days. true. So this could be a team. That's all in. In back to Philadelphia, real quick because I forgot to mention this you know. Tommy Hunter, and Rangers were is kind of a big deal in conjunction with hector narrows. That's remembers. Well and it's three members of their bullpen. Yeah, great to begin no. Is Nick PA-. That've closer if you know Tommy Hunter in and hector nearest. Aren't ready for the start of the season. I why not? That might not be a bad idea? That could be the fit for him, you know. He was loved by the community. Myself included as a as a star a couple years ago and famously flopped. I gotta be honest as much as I, did like him. The price got. That I didn't get caught up into many Too many shares preventive on on my ball clubs, but then last year. Out of the bullpen, most split Pope Bullpen, and relief, or excuse me bullpen and starting showed a little something out of the bullpen. Stuff is still there too I wouldn't be surprised if he gets an opportunity and makes the most of it as as a reliever here for Panetta, and it could be in a key role as the closer so that's a good call. Let's say you were doing the draft tonight? Rerun your draft and. Would you take Profeta? Yeah, sure in the last round. I mean any go at all in the draft I. Don't believe he did. So. Now No. One in the twenty six around to calm weather, ex. Okay, so you probably have to go a little bit higher than would you pay? Twenty second round. Okay. That's where I got NIMMO and you know. And we got Wade Miley and some. And, homer Bailey after that. You know I'm not I'm still not taking him over those guys okay I don't blame you. I wouldn't either, but that's better. That's a good call enough, because far as in hunter both relievers. That's three pieces of a bullpen. Adam Morgan Nick Peta. Victorino in Yell Della Santos he could also be an interesting one, and you'll deal pretty hard, so yeah, consider Anthony Dominquez is. And David Robertson had TJ just last year, so he's a no go for sure, so yeah, they don't really have much go in there, and that's a good call out, and if nearest isn't back in time, somebody has to close speaking of closers. Jordan Hicks to the I l. recovering from TJ so this isn't. Necessarily a major surprise I think there was some expectation in that he might be ready to go because of the time off, but you need a little bit more time, so I imagine. Couple of weeks at least. As another one I'm wondering. Are You draughting? Drafting Jordan Hicks now. We don't know if he just GONNA. Miss the camp and then be out a week or two into the season, but that's obviously a heck of a lot of time. So where do you stand with regards to Jordan Hicks his draft stock. I'm pretty much out on. Cardinals bullpen innately Previa Hicks now. Back to the I l. Yeah I mean I guess you're you're you're dude? Gaga's is a little bit more entrenched in that role. He already was I. I mean I know you feel. He was, but I I mean at this point I mean. was Heasley, her Eisley at unhealthily held elite right and sleepy. How how's whatever I mean he's still kind of an interesting guy. I'm not drafting Hicks. I wasn't going to be drafted in aches. anyways, it's just too early off of the Tommy John. For him to. He struggled command to begin with exactly. He had no idea where the ball's going anyway, so going fast. That's how he know. Fast and somewhere in the general vicinity toward the plate, but that's about it. Yeah Gago says there you know Andrew Miller always lingering. At least if say there were two or three lefties, coming up in the ninety could see him compensates I know healthily was an interesting pick. I know some folks were on the breviary trained sane that he could be an interesting gamble there if they didn't believe in goggles because they hadn't come out and said like guy. English guy one thousand percent Is this point? He's the last man standing I think so. There's also. Alex Rodriguez. You Know I. Hope. I. Don't trust them either, but. Maybe it's. Maybe it's finally like okay. We can't get them as a starter, and he becomes an elite reliever, but I don't know that he would instantly send to the ninth, but I know People WanNa keep drafting the arm town I've been out on raise now for a couple of years. Just saying show me something then I'll jump back in love the talent for the kid without a doubt, but it's just been, too. Too much so yeah I think I says the guy to get I understand. The note on Hick said that go with committee. They didn't even say Guyane goes there, so it could be a cluster. I get for me. Guy Angles has a right price that his ADP has has been around I've certainly seen situations where I'll take him, but if you bumps up because of Hicks, going to the I L. I might end up passing on on the. Saint Louis, bullpen, as well. All Right? We gotTA trade and I know this one made you happy. Of US really, we talked about this guy quite a bit when Oakland Got Tony Cam. We didn't know what the hell they were doing. It ruined two of our guys. At least made their lives more difficult year huge Franken Baretto Guy I know you like Matteo to. I'm being Matteo Guy. We were ready for those guys to have an opportunity. Maybe battle it out or share the role in some capacity. Nope, let's bring Tony Kemp for no reason now that made it a bit untenable at saying come on tigers twenty four year old Matteo go get him twenty five year old Baretta. Also twenty four, but right I'll go get go. Go get one of these guys. Here can't cost that much. Older ends up against it well. Sandiego swooped in and did just that, and of course it's not even that surprising Oakland San Diego have had a great relationship of trading, not even surprised by this move they get horrible tale. The twenty five year old four appear to be named later doesn't mean it won't be a good player, but the thought of huge price generally players to be named later are not very good You know they're just a little little something for the organizational depth. I like this move, and even though the other guy that they got second base also from Oakland Jackson pro far. He's the name, but he hasn't really shown enough to say that he has. That blocked off and he can't be. He can't be pushed. Not only that but Matteo can play a little bit of outfield and currently we have Trent Grisham infringe Cordeiro. outfield spots neither of whom are locked, and I know there's some hype on Grisham, and I understand it, and actually agree with it, but he's also not guaranteed anything so Matteo Sandiego currently in a in a bench utility role, but could have. Could we finally have him said in a situation where he can go off. I think so and I mean I prior to everything. Getting shut down I was drafting Matteo everywhere and I'm. I continued that theme last night. So! I took him in the twenty fifth round and make sure. Or the twenty twenty six round to make sure I got him. and I'm stoked because a lot of people like well, this hurts. Mateo. He's going to be. Stuck behind testing. Pro For sucks? It hurts him. At worst at war's worth neutral, but I don't agree with that because there were three guys battling now there's now it's profile versus Matteo sorry. Greg are I. Don't find him to be a greg. Artsy is a perfect bench bat and come off. Do something for you, but as far as the starting second base role is to man battle now between pro, forma Taylor said Matteo could find some outfield time as well. Yeah I, mean I like drink Grisham. You know not as much as Alex Chamberlain, but I like him, but he he's not proven we'll. Myers has proven he can't be trusted. Franci Cordero's not proven there. There's plenty of spots. that Matteo can get in even if it's just like a super butyl guy. Because in Oakland the outfield wasn't. Cana Laureano Scotty when healthy. That's pretty much, locked and loaded. PENDER gets an occasional time in there. But even now that that's GonNa. Be Hard for him because he's more of a lefty beaner lefty. Hitter, he hit lefties. Excuse me for pender. Whereas all three of those guys are already writing, so even that's tough, so matteo wasn't really breaking into the Oakland Outfield, so second base was really only his only avenue I think in San Diego. It's more open. No, I cannot get behind this hurting him in any capacity. Yeah, no I, I'm all on board. The train and I. I hope that people listen to those people who were on twitter yesterday, saying this Erz him because I want to get him late and I mean worst case scenario worst-case scenario he you know he a drop for me, but he's also got game changing speed. And? You Got Gresham on that team as well too so. Oh my God. You did take your so. Let's talk about it. Maybe a hey so much. Let's transition into it and talk about your draft here. So this is a main event qualifier Did you guys set it up? The way didn't last year where it was basically fancy benefits. Yeah, every single person is Fancy benefits are on friends fantasy. If Staff some people know like Michael Alexander and Mike Warner. Calling weather acts. Walter Mick Michael Scott. Schule Scotty Ju yeah for from Pitcher List great ship, who is a a draft addict? So yeah, it was, it was fine. We did livestream with a number of people jumping in and yeah I feel pretty good about my team. All right well. Let's talk some details here. Let's just start with the the overall feeling that the general tenor of it with virtually no ADP to really go off because it's not I'm not sure using a march ADP is going to be all that valuable. What? What was the feeling in the room as you're bringing in folks to talk to them on the Stream and all that? It might not have been that different. Maybe it was just A. Draft. Or was it kind of flying blind? A little bit of what well how do they feel just going through the draft process again? I think a lot of people felt very uncomfortable. Okay and I mean I know there were times where I did, too. Because I'm probably two thirds of the way through my ranks and posted them on the site yeah, and so it means still you know I have still yet to do think shortstop and outfielder, my last two Oh and Catcher, which shouldn't be very difficult. so I mean it's a little uncomfortable because there were definitely guys that that dropped. That won't in for instance, my main event draft comes up next week A. Guy Like Alex Redo. Go went way later then he should. Be Or gigs now. He's backing inland. Go. Yeah, so you went in the thirteenth round. That won't happen. Sam Hilliard Win in the fourteenth round. That won't happen so there's definitely some guys that probably dropped in this draft that that definitely shouldn't have but it was a. it was a really interesting exercise in fun exercise. A lot of smart guys in in this league I was. I was expecting the closer on the way it did I was. Not quite expecting to see the starting pitching her on that I that I did see. All right well, let's talk about your draft. Did you come in with a specific game plan about whether it was on categories or positions, or were you just putting together a sometimes? He come in. You've got this hammered out. You know what? I'm saying you as a general. You like Pires. We go in and we have this game plan I'm going to do these categories, or I'm going to get these players. Get these positions I'M GONNA go positional scares your. Whatever did you come up with anything like that or just more of a I know the guys I like I wanna put together a well-balanced team. What was your overall game plan going in? For the most part I wanted to pound hitting. A and kind of I feel really comfortable with kind of the lower end of the pitching pool, so I like to get at least one ace somewhere in the first three to four rounds and I was really hoping to get one in. You know kind of the one to turn drafting fifteenth and I was just four went in the first. All four guys that I have my first year went. and I was sitting there at fifteen, looking at Walker bueller in one Soto still available at thirteen, and they went back to back. They went thirteen fourteen yet, and so that was a huge bummer because I was hoping one of them might fall to me and make my decision a little bit easier of who to pair with those Ramirez I, so that was. I wanted to get closers early I did I do not, and we had an argument I had an argument with Walter. McMichael later on. It might have actually been after the draft Yeah, it was after the draft ended, and we just kind of sat around and talked for a little while onstream because he took Sean doolittle. And I was like I. Don't want to deal with Sean. Do Little. I mean his injury history i. don't even think he's necessarily the closer. You know at best I, think he. He shares opportunities. I don't WanNa play around with those guys. So I I I moved up the closers. I like and make sure I and made sure I got him on a paradigm with Craig. Camera so yeah now he regretted that. So it looks like executed that because I see an ace in the third round, who Alito I, see early saves with Chapman in the sixth. Ken Giles, the eighth, and then I see playing into the into the middle back end of the of the pitching pool. quite nicely with with a Lotta guys that that you've propped up shark. Miley cow Gibson. Andrew Heaney. And speaking of not wanting to mess with doolittle as far as You know his health unfortunately has been problematic, but. You Got Daniel Hudson so you got a piece of third bull pin there on equality team. So you're not going to be in. That saves rat race chasing guys. Throughout this sixty games sprint and that's the big reason for me. That's why I wanted to draft I want be messing with that. I know we're going to have the thousand dollar budget for sixty days. It's going to create some awesome silliness with waivers. But, I don't WanNa be looking at my. Some caused goes down. A new one pops up. Do I spend six hundred dollars in my budget on it? No, thank you I'm I'm just not interested in that so I totally understand that. Well I, said it work, but I'll ask you. Do you think your game plan work that? Did you execute I think so? I think it worked fairly well. I mean there's always going to be picks. I kind of wish I had back where I went. Oh, yeah, I shouldn't have taken that guy because this guy went later and I actually think I. might you know like that a little bit more? And there's obviously guys that I missed out on like I. Thought I had lined up perfectly to take Kyle Hendricks in the in the back end of the ninth. And Bruce Cagle another smart. Oh No joke like fired him on the Stream. And there was only one other picture that went that round to. We can't say for sure that nobody in that range would have taken Hendrix but Dang. It was a big pitcher run and You can kind of justify saying. Oh, I wonder lost them anyway. There was one other pitcher after he took Hendrix. Maybe he would have skated to you if cable doesn't take him. Yeah, you got to Miami though and I love to mine, so I don't really think you have anything to worry about their and you've parented up. You went back to back ENA price. The three of them together. When you look at Hendrix made a price. They're all close so I. I don't think you really. Lost out there that much yeah I wanted some kind of guaranteed safe innings. And then paired with obviously some upside. Guys like you know. Andrew Heaney Who who I took later? But I definitely just I for the most part. I didn't want to overreact to some of the pitching runs. I just wanted to you know, get some guys I felt comfortable with, but really pound that offense and I feel like Corey Solaire in the in the seventh was a nice bargain for no apparent reason you know, and then a Chris, Davis. Seller is just not getting the love. Comparable to what he did last year and I wonder why. I I. Don't believe it because he's in Kansas City and everything about it checks out its. Power hitter. You know like okay. I can get behind saying he won't repeat the career year and hit the same. But that's fine, you know. He played one hundred six games that that plays a role in drumming forty-eight bombs, but. He's thirty in his sleep and I know that's a big drop down down from forty eight. He is transcendent power, and we take guys like scenario all the time who also transcend department can't get through a season. We just saw solar. Put up a full. I think seventh-round. That feels like two rounds. Discount I think yeah. I I really. I really don't understand why he continues to incite draft just hit Alonzo a second round here in sellers seven. You want to hear his numbers from July twenty four th on last year. I do actually I really did twenty one home runs. Forty four runs forty six is three stolen bases, and to ninety two average at bananas like that is MVP caliber in a sixty game season. Yeah, that's healthy so. All aboard the horry slayer trend I. Don't think he'll last as long as he did. in this draft in you know in my next draft, which is the main event so But yeah. I really liked that. One of the things I tried to do was get a lot of positional flexibility. And I think executed that yeah, and it's something I was pounding before all of this kind of everything got shut down. And I'm going to continue to kind of bound. Is I I? Want the guys like Muncie you know. One of the reasons I took Bragman. you know with my for with the first pick of the second round. guys that. Are! GonNa play, but also play multiple positions. Because like what if we have guys that go down with Cova? You'RE GONNA need to be able to fill different spots. Act And so I think I did a good job of that. An. Injuries aren't going to take a year off either standard baseball injuries right, so we're going to. Be More prevalent because. Exactly so I think flexibility is important as ever, and you know hopefully people continued undervaluing you and I can scoop it up because I. I've always had a favoring toward it, and it's GonNa. It's. GonNa be amplified this year by the way I think you've got four guys who could realistically when the home run crown. With Jimenez Muncie, Solaire and Chris Davis, who I like on a bounce back in the twelfth, round. I really liked that and I as much as I really don't like Mouth Smith and we'd like to me, Monnet. A. Do you set it up to be able to to take on his? Two homers and he's going to get maybe even one homer. So I think that you set that up nicely because he also got you know. Those are just the four guys that could win the home run crown. You got other guys hit for power to. Scattered throughout your lineup and he's really that one guy, so you did plan formats I mean you're always planning to take him because you're an idiot. At least you're well versed in in making that. That game plan to take Malik Smith I. DO think that that actually worked, and then you gotTa. Contribution steals elsewhere. I Love I love the show. Gawk Yama pick I was taken him. Everywhere I could and I'll continue to do so in any drafts that I do. participate in the rest of the way. Big Big Fan there, so yeah, I think you really set up nicely there. With everything that you did Brandon Lau love that pick. He's awesome could smash Nick Zolak. Ut only right now, so you have to ut only guys, but he's going to get eligibility. You'll be base eligible which pretty quickly I think. I don't think he is going to. Give up a whole lot of time. And with a four-game eligibility, even sixty game season. I think he he could, he could get multiple positions, so like could find himself with a couple positions now, not not a ton I don't think he's GonNa. Play somewhere new every day. you mentioned first base? That could be a spot that he takes over to yeah, he could push Ronald. Guzman Outta there I think he likely will yeah. Even as even as the righty in a righty lefty Combo there I think he has enough to where he could just overpower him and say now I bases mind completely I love select, so I'm surprised. You Ain't get our other Texas guy though Willie. Calhoun snaked on them, or you just at that point in. That one of the draft I was looking at other things. Now, I feel. I feel you. Sometimes it doesn't. It doesn't pan out to get somebody like that, but I like I like what you've done here and you make some some veterans with some upside. We've talked about Grisham. Who has some upside Carter Keyboard? Them But again that's paired with. Chris Davis, who is steady Eddie Boring, but you know what you're going to get and could actually boom a bit with his health being back Joey, votto, if he finds any bit of his power, if not scoring runs for days for yet at the top of equality lineup there Brandon Nimmo. You mentioned earlier. Did you take Austin no on the idea that hopefully? The backup catcher he qualifies soon. Yeah, one of the things that I'm glad this perfect transition because I was just about to bring this up. You know one of the things in terms of attacking multipurpose eligibility that people should think about because obviously, the guys like Muncie and Lemay. Hugh, and McNeil are they already come in with that added? Eligibility and people will pay up for that. They're a bunch of guys who will gain eligibility in season. that are going much later you know, and so that's the reason I. Grab, Zolak. That's the reason. I grabbed Carter key boom. That's the reason I grabbed horry, Matteo and Austin Nola is on top of disliking their overall skill sets. I also like the idea that they're eligible at one position now I mean everybody but SOLLAC and they're gonNA gain at least one more at some point. Yep I like that and I love Noah. I've been taking him as a sneaky see to who doesn't have catcher yet, but he should back up Tom Murphy but also play elsewhere when he's not catching so I am really excited by that I think that was a good pig by their well. Done all right. Let's talk a bit more. elsewhere leads the other people's picks. Were there any what were some of the crazy picks I put crazy in quotes. Were blasting the pigs, but ones that kind of jarred you a little bit that were far afield from ADP. Guys planting their flag that you took notice of I know you're somebody that's open to doing that too so again. We're not criticizing, but what were some of the Stan, let's call them. Standout picks instead of crazy pics, then But what were some of those pick said that happened Aaron Judge in the fourth in fourth. Yes, confidence, yeah, Mike Warner boy. Of Mike you know rule smart guy that stanton went a little bit before him by the and I. Mean he had a few of these kind of big so I mean I loved his start of trae Turner, shame Bieber and then have your Baya's, but then he follows it up with Aaron Judge in the fourth. He takes Nick Anderson in the sixth ahead of Cam Johnson. You know what's interesting is his fifth. Fifth and seventh picks like better than his fourth and sixth I I think they could have been the four six. And that's Moncada and Kenley Jansen ahead of judge in Nick. Anderson so I guess if he's getting some benefit on those pixies balancing out, maybe giving back a little bit of it by taking judge Anderson. Early now there was actually a report on judge that I kind of glossed over a little bit earlier. Find it! That they have some con I. Mean Look I know. It's been all over the map here. But Yeah Cashman said on Tuesday that they are very optimistic that he could be ready for opening day. Yeah, I don't believe that and I won't believe it until I heard that he's playing an actual like spring training point to. James Yeah until I. I know he's actually playing games. I'm just not I'm just not going to do it it just I. I haven't been looking at judge. Obviously, this is back in the during the draft period I wasn't really in on them, but even now with the time passed i. He's a bigger risk than I want as good as judge's, and that's another one of those that I root for him from afar. He can do well for other folks. It's not you're not going to MIT team. anything else as far as talks. Other standout picks that you saw that you were. They WANNA discuss. Guys like jumping guys up in more to me about guys who fell that I was very honest about talking about some followers. Then I mean modesty fell to the third round. and Ed is pretty surprising. I was really surprised he didn't go in. You know the early second I mean I've seen people. Take him in the first Yeah, and I mean not that you know siege. Yeah, and he was in the in the chat. Section of the livestream is like wow. Thirty six for Monte is insane and I tend to agree even though I'm not a modest guy. I won't take him in the first round. But if I'm sitting in the back end of the second and Monte is still there. It's GonNa be really hard for me to pass him up. I mean it's. There's all steamer only projects. Six guys! I believe to steal w basis. WOW double digit double digit basis. Say like a threshold like fifteen or twenty only sixty even get yeah. Yeah so Monticello is Iman modest. He's the leader Modesty Turner Than Malik Jonathan Vr a Kunia road. Those are the six that steamer projects to have to have ten stolen bases more. and I think he that just gives you such a leg up. you know if you know now there's always health concerns and you know so I would have been much more likely to take him in a draft like this without the overall component of because I definitely want to make sure I'm banking stats. But yeah, I. Mean He's. He's I think a top. Twenty twenty, twenty twenty five player. In this format and I I'm surprised that he fell yeah I'm on thirty six and I don't speaking of falling all BS behind hero in Mira field. See this was a he turned into a huge argument on the livestream because Bruce CAGLE He's like I'll be shouldn't even be a third rounder. Next accuse me, yeah. He thinks that he's overrated that. He that he doesn't I about lost my mind. Dead Wrong. You know I it how he thinks that he's not. He's an I. Don't understand process behind. Honestly it just. It actually boggled my mind that he doesn't have a ton of upside. That like I'm like. He's twenty three like yeah. Disagree more coming off a two seasons in which he was a five category contributor. He's afraid he's GonNa. Run as much like I don't understand like you know. He's like why. I'll take a guy like you know Laureano over him because Laureano, if he if he plays a full season, he's GonNa Produce More Mike but. I'll. These had seven hundred plate appearances last year. He plays every day. You know he's going to play every thing. He plays every day and. I mean I'm not sure that's the right guy to say that with. Feel like I. Love Lori on I. They would be of the the. He'd point to saying he had twenty four and thirteen last year, one hundred twenty three games, or did an all these went twenty four fifteen in a full season. I like Oreo, but we can't just extrapolate the one twenty three and say that he would be or guaranteed that he's GonNa play fifty five games this year like exactly it and on top of that like the leave huge amount of plate appearances that always gets hitting at the top of that lineup is huge win. You have a three hundred batting average. Exactly and even this year. Outside of major injury. It's GonNa. Be Hard to solidify yourself as a big volume outside of people getting injuries around you and you pushing up that way, but one of the ways to do it is to be part of a good lineup that bats more often and get the edge there, so maybe somebody menu play the same amount of games as other guys, but you get twenty extra plane. Plane appearances because your team is so much better in every plate. Appearance is going to be important this year. The main event overall will likely be decided on the last day, and it's going to be someone who sits someone who doesn't like you. Know is the reason someone wins the main and someone else does and so like a guy like that I. Know is just GonNa. Be there. And be producing an all five categories while he's there is someone I love like I think either way I think that was a great pick by by I I thought it was fantastic and interesting setup for him. He went story. Torres, all be so he went short second middle off. Rip In really really jumped into that there and then Tara. Lemay yeah then got the mayhew and McNeil in the five six Yeah, Yeah, he's. He's got his middle infield cover. That's for sure. And he depleted that pull you know he's GonNa, put Lemay and McNeil at the corner and then Gd Davis Who's multipurpose knowledgeable also has it yet. John Bernie so yeah I I I really like when he did there and I thought, I think all means is a a great pick. But yeah. There's no world where I'm taking cast in Hera. Oversee obviously it's it's just not happy and I'm GONNA take field. Find that more justifiable though I have to double, check my second base ranks, but. I'm okay if people wanted to take that move, but the idea that it's like a foregone conclusion that they should I think that is a mistake. I don't know man I I. I want to have a conversation with the big hero backer. 'CAUSE I. I don't think it's justifiable to be honest. I'm an. Era over always but. What upside does he have? That always doesn't. I think here is a little bit more. In terms of in terms of the power especially. I don't agree I. Don't agree I mean. He hit nineteen home runs last year in three hundred and forty eight plate appearances. I know you know I mean his line was anyone i. his line was his esque in half season. I know. How many guys doing talk about we've had grade half scenes I'm not saying it's the right call or that. It's the that he's going to repeat it I. I'm saying I. Understand the argument. I have I have Albee's ranked fifth Actually I'm going to move him up before I post. I'm move them up to four move kettle, Martin spot Can we get into this to speaking staying on second base. How come, there were five second baseman taken before I'll to bay was taken. I don't know that's a good question, maybe. Maybe. People are afraid that he's not going to run again that he was benefited by the Buzzer In Idiots. That made him no I. Mean I don't think that I mean I'm not. Saying. John Foolish. Yeah. I. Agree With You, I think he's another one of the average God. Yeah, and I think what happened. I think he's Albee's with a longer track record in his what he is with up saw. You know. We've seen a huge upside from him so I'm I'm I'm totally fine taking out. He may have just fallen into this kind of you know older guy. That's not as sexy as it used to be. So people have. The hate has gone a little bit too far to steal an old Matthew Berry term Yeah, I tend to think I mean back. In March, my second base rankings. He was number one. Today was to and they go. They go later at the position there. Then then. I really expected that I have Torres. VR, to al-tv three Albee's four. Not sure I'm going to be in a re rank, but it'll probably be pretty similar. Alright anybody else. That fell that that stood out to you. Would see a guy who didn't fall That's that's me with JT Ramon. The fourth expecting him to dip I wasn't expecting him to dip I. Just I really liked the pick. Oh okay. So I actually thought about taking on the three four turn is because I think he is so far and away the best catcher this year, especially in the shortened season. where he likely could get some extra at bats at D. H. when he's not catching. And Call and just think the pool drops off a huge amount. Know in the catcher position and just in general and so to get that number. One guy that I think is going to be playing a whole lot. like I I think there is an argument for him in the second round I. Don't think I would take him there but I think there's an argument for him. Yeah, we went in the the next catcher didn't go till the seventh win. GRONDAHL and Sanchez went back to back and then the next ones weren't take until the night. So you see the spread of the Catcher Pool. You punted catcher. Picks in or excuse me to be last three picks and technically. Kinda three four. We talked about Austin. No, he doesn't have catcher yet. He is Tom Murphy's backup, though and Murphy didn't really hit well against Righties, and they're both righties, but Nola could actually get some of the strong side stuff behind the dish, and like I said he's playing around the field during his off days, but then you took Barnhart and flowers there just to get to guys. Who are there their teams everyday? Guys and you know flowers isn't the everyday. Turner there Barnhart. Your flowers is splitting, but he he is going to get guaranteed time as far as staying in the rotation because of his defense. Dr knows injury history to exactly exact-, so he could become a full-timer, but by then you might already have Nola. Deciding between Barnhart and flowers, whoever's doing better? We'll see how that goes. I'm trying find some other pigs that maybe I liked, but if you have another one, let me know here as I'm looking. See I mean I was a little surprised. That is surprising that I wasn't a Tater win the fourth. Kinda wonder when the first closer would go, and he was indeed the first closer to. Fifth pick in the fourth round of a fifteen teamer. Yeah, which I don't have a problem with if you think he's the guy. And I. Start. Popping gone off to Aeronautical Freeman Springer, great trio of offense there, and if if you are a Bauer backer I'm not a huge one, but hater by our open his pitching. Is Not bad not bad at all. Brandon Woodruff in the seventh is really low. I was you know there was this huge pitcher run early? And then it kinda dried up for a little bit. You know, and then we you know we didn't Nazia starter. Go you know after the mid. Let's see yeah from. The entire fifth round. We didn't start ago. Sorry. But. There were there were a few starters that really dropped. Which that released? Surprise me a little bit but I also kind of agree with it and I played into it a little bit as well in in kind of grab the offense that I could so. Yeah. I mean stand still going in the fourth. With the news that he's GonNa, you know likely just be d., H., which means he's not completely healthy. Is a bit scary. Swore as in the fifth was I felt like a little low. I think that's that's Kinda low for him. You know why like I? I thought was a great pick. Hundred ruin the eleventh. He went down instead of going up. Yeah. I think I lower than his eighty Yeah he was a guy that I kind of just kept looking at and looking at almost took him instead of David Price, but I just felt like price gave me a little bit more safety. which is you know with G. Lido I G Lido and I. Love the upside. I think he's GonNa be. A Stud. There's always a chance that he's you know. He's got an injury history. That's extensive. Always a chance he loses the mechanics saying. That he put together last year. And so I? I wanted to draft some safer guys. And that's why I went after my Ada in price as opposed to grabbing review but yeah, no, he shouldn't have gone lead who your ice went in the twelfth. Of that too I I was so surprised he he he another guy that I mean. I haven't ranked right next to David. Price Who I took in the tenth yeah. Resilient take reassigned eleven. Twelve was just taking pictures, and you Kinda. Get in two guys that pair really well. Malcolm Smith Chris Davis there. You had a game plan. You executing there so That's why you didn't just take rice yourself, but that is. That is a bargain I think I mean and I and I asked the question because Let's see where did Lazardo go in this draft Elizardo. Win The eighth, which is lower than he's been going. Like? What the different to the same guy! So! What's the difference between Lazardo in Your Eyes Will Marquez and lament went over her is to I to ever draft Matt. Haynes was he had just left the stream of it was still kind of hanging around. And I brought him back into. Yell at him. What did he say what was justification? He couldn't figure unissued Mike for some reason, so then I kicked him right out. You don't get to explain yourself. To serve it. Well it looks It looks like a fine draft here. Nothing was you know out of bounds? But there were a lot of movers and shakers and. I think it's kind of fun Fi blind sometimes though we don't have a guiding, ADP that really keeps everything quote unquote on the rails. You can kind decide your own fate there. Because no matter how much we say, don't trust ADP, or don't you know? Don't live and die by it. You look at it though and. Damn. This guy was going. Seventy picks lane. I could awaited. You know stuff like that. It plays a role and being you and I are pretty good about taking our guys and not getting too hung up on. People just have to be smart about it, too. Don't take somebody two hundred picks early a hundred picks early. Then you're just giving away draft capital at that point, but you do want to make sure that you get your guys, and if you, if you like somebody in the eighth round in these normally rounder I think that's fine to go ahead and make that move so that way you don't get snake because it only takes one other person. Yeah, that's that's the Cliche, but it's. It's true one other person to feel similarly to you. Use Your guy and then kicking yourself because you took an inferior player the round before because he was a quote, unquote value and there were definitely guys especially in the middle of the draft where I went. Oh I really I mean the seventh round was brutal for me Lance Lynn goes brain. Drift goes Shohei. ohtani goes montages goes. Sonny gray goes like that was that was around, and yeah, that was a brutal brutal round for me, so that's the layer. So you did well in that round. I would consider you as one of the winners of that very very winning round. You also count yourself among them. It's Otani you'd mentioned in the seven. Th they're. Managing him going to be difficult, but I love love. Love the talent I. Already have him on a number of teams I. Don't think I will be drafting him in the minimum. Yeah, same I. Don't think I you know any drafts I. DO I am getting any more OTANI got I've got my share. I've got more than. The more than single share I've got I've got my fill I. Don't think I'm necessarily GONNA. Be going for more. Otani right now. You know who was a bit of a surprise I. Love Him. You know I do y'all. Eleventh Round without a team. And not a single humbling of heavy right now. Yeah, Scott. Shoe He. He made the pick. I love, Scott to and I mean if he does sign what what's he thinking on that he just you know just too much talent to pass up on I think and he. He's pretty sure he's going to sign anywhere all cheer. He's GonNa sign somewhere. Yeah wear, and if is if it's with the giants, like how much does is value go up? I don't know that it goes up, you wonder. I do wonder if he couldn't have gotten them for around later. Yeah I think he around. Let's say the Fifteenth Round Pollock Bronze Chew Jab all went before. Choose pick her. And I feel like we're GONNA fit in that in that grouping their. The thirteenth or fourteenth around probably would be in the right spot, but I also understand. You're pushing for the upside and just hoping that you know you land somewhere. Good, maybe the rockies. And he doesn't. Doesn't have as like a fundamental player. If it doesn't work out, he has back in fact he got. Twenty six and there's actually been some positive reports on suspect is with regards to his health, plus they have the D. H. so that could end up being like hey I, took a gamble, but I made up for with the twenty sixth round Cesspits Npr Tan the twenty eighth to so. All right well, I didn't realize the clock was in his. Right around your soft. Stop here, so let's go ahead and wrap up. A fun draft though good luck to you in it. To the twenty twenty one main event, good luck to everybody in it, but we'll talk to you because. I want you to win by the way last thing we did retro draft night. Would you're doing concurrently there? You missed the the theatrics at the end not about who won. Nick Gault ran away with it again. Well done to him well, absolutely crushed. It lasts pick though Jeff Erickson takes I have sixty nine points I'm celebrate I love it. I win, somebody says. Hopefully this pig doesn't. Take you off sixty nine and move just ahead of you, and that's exactly. What foam did it made it so that I didn't have sixty nine, and then you beat me sixty eight and a half to sixty eight. It's beautiful because I wasn't even there to celebrate in the. The pandemonium because I turn my attention over. Yeah the Stream. My strategy was I was going to take all my hitters. Except for catchers style way all add to worry about drafting were pitchers and catchers during the start of the qualifier. Those smart. Catcher was a nightmare. It was weird. I'm impressed with Nick Manny freaking. Out here he's been won a bunch of these and. This one! It didn't look like He. He was putting together like this monstrous team. I don't say that the denigrating either. It was just a solid well-built team. It wasn't a star scrubs. He didn't want anything, so that was fun, but that's it for retro drafts for now for us at least because. Turn our attention here to this twenty twenty season that we're going to get, but they do him in the off season. I'll jump back in because now that they have the clock with them. They run much quicker and that's a lot of fun, too, so anyway justin great talking with you. You have a good fourth of July weekend. By the way the site will be. We'll go dark tomorrow for an observance of. Fourth July's of as you looking for content on joy third Friday July third. There won't be any unless something breaks that must be posted about our going to take a day off, but I hope you in the family have a good one.

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Eagles Fly in Lambeau, NBA Tampering and NFL Sunday Preview Show

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Eagles Fly in Lambeau, NBA Tampering and NFL Sunday Preview Show

"Plants Capture Co two what if we could help industrial plants capture it to thank you we can help lower emissions more and more for scientists than carbon capture is key to reducing co two emissions globally. It's one way Exxon Mobil helping industrial plants be more like plants that the unexpected energy of Exxon Mobil Jalen and Jacoby in what we want if we ever do y'all strong the property owner. He's Jalen rose. I'm Cassidy Hubbard born the cool and what do we do certain centerstage though Mike we putting it on wax fit and what do we do. I messed it up. It's okay okay. I'll be happy to have a guest but they know that we always do the long shadow cast and don't feel bad doing it for nine years he intro- all the time with me. I promise you we get better. We better 'cause I've been known for a long time. We got some different chemistry so no question a lot. I you know I'll I'll get that right. One day the next time the next time the nets they had my whole time line filled out and really let me just start with a quick wick quick quote from Kevin Durant where he said it took seconds for him to decide to join the Brooklyn. Nets but another quote that's making the rounds is Kyrie Irving on Kevin Durant and let me just read this. He says we all know K. was not ready to go into that environment and he was talking about the NBA finals and how he sat out thirty one games we put them on the national stage in the finals to end up selling a product that came before the a person Kevin and now I'm here to protect that any went on to say. I'm here to protect Kevon from this sort of thing happening again. Dan I want him to be one hundred and he said one percent healthy before he comes back and I'm not gonNA. Let anyone else put pressure on him. Jalen your thoughts on and Kyrie being Kevin durant protector and his comments that Kevin Durant shouldn't have come back in the finals soda few things to Unpack here one K. Okay deal was not ready to go his workout that Friday. I went on. NBA countdown editing go. Well said he shouldn't return. I initially pick the raptors to win the series stories from the beginning because I felt like he wasn't going to be able to perform at an elite level and show by the way he ended up getting injured you depart from the Golden State Warriors. Yes and I understand everybody has reason to believe in and initially he talked about how to style of playing with Brooklyn was something that he was enthusiastic about being apart bill which in hindsight those a little shade at the Golden State Warriors Style of play that you wanted to join so much so that you back to back finals. MVP's so now you're in Brooklyn. I initially thought that he was considering going to the Knicks. That's what my Intel was telling me and then all of a sudden Kyrie's shook loose from the Boston Celtics Kai with the lead domino for both of them the end up in Brooklyn. Now the narrative that he's feeding is actually wanted. It seems to frustrate K. D. is somebody else's delete or not him. It's almost like Kyri now is accepting this little big brother type role for K. D. and say he's going to beat a guy then make sure he doesn't go out there. airplay injured and all types of things like that when actually -ality if Katie was saying that for himself that wouldn't feed into a narrative that seems to upset that set him when he was in okay see because people felt like Rosa was the Alpha same when he was in Golden State. We know about the blue we have withdrawn mind green now now to press the car re still talking about the injury in theory throwing shade at the Golden State Warriors K. B already said that it was his decision automatically the play now this just now re engages all of these conversations that seemed like both of these guys who are miserable last this year. We saw him in the media every time. Somebody put a camera in front of them now. He's drummed up those conversations again exactly so he said he's going to protect protect. Kevin Durant and the first thing he does is not protect Kevin Durant questions about that he shouldn't have played in the final so you I know this is what we know this league and we know these two guys they were very emotional and they also have their other friend in De'andre Jordan Gordon on the team so these three guys they got together because they're very very close and Kyrie had this to say Katie and DJ was four sixteen in the morning and we sat and talked about the future on how this opportunity ahead of us is something we haven't had in our careers and they also went on to say that they want to finish their careers was together. What is your take on hand this. Ah Mixture of emotions work together for the goal of winning a title. I think these two gentlemen have a level of respect for one another in a friendship that carries on the floor. We talked about it earlier in the show. When you have a relationship off the court it doesn't turn into a argument humint. When you make a mistake it becomes my bad because you're doing it for the greater good you willing to sacrifice those that you have love for plan in the Eastern Conference offerings. They're going to catapult themselves immediately wants. Katie comes back to being arguably best team in that conference but what I'm looking to see is how Horie is able to hold it together this year because Katie a plan and so they have some other good young talent Kessler Vert. It was on his way to be an all star last year. I think he's going to have another breakout year. Coming back from injury tore. You Prince is a knocked down three point shooter. People didn't really get a chance to see him much in Atlanta. I think he's GonNa make some noise so car. Rica nurtured guys why Katie is out because the nets won't won't be a favourite without K. D. at some point in your life. Did you played on a basketball team with your best friend right. I would assume enjoy it. Did you enjoy playing with your best friends more than a colleague because this is a career absolutely and the idea we're at least tell you. I'll play just as hard against my brother or my friend as I do against my enemy. That's an absolute lie. Okay in reverse. When you play which your brothers I was fortunate enough to have that in high school at Detroit southwestern Bush. I literally Howard Eisley both those guys went on to play college and in the NBA and obviously the foul five was probably one of the most unique bonds and sports are while we're on the top of K. D. D. and this is his now third. Stop his first stop obviously Seattle which turned into okay see thunder. Gm Sam Presi Rusty did he talked positively about Katie after his comments that he didn't trust anyone in okay so this just sounds like a business decision to me. I don't know why Sam Prestige would say anything but positive things about Kevin Durant but what's your take on basically Sam Prestige taking the Super High Road responding indicate comments well. Katie has a sense of bitterness based on when he returned. Okay see how he felt like the fans jeered him to the point where he felt like they went over the top but that's what happens in sports. I'll never forget getting traded from your Chicago. Go Bulls okay. I took out an ad in the paper pay ten thousand dollars four but before they trade me the team did little to assassinate my character so now by the time you get traded phase are rooting for you to lead so. I it came back. I took out of the paper's still got booed. Still bothering you or anything appreciated seeing your date back. I got you there so I want to ask you something. You basketball ask you ball. AFICIONADO and stand. I saw footage reminded me of spotting bigfoot. It was Ben Simmons shooting three point shops. He Okay So. What do you think this is. The year we start to see him attempt in make shots outside of the pain like I said was it live footage because I'm over over the edited footage that is posted on instagram. I will believe it when I see it because we need to see it in live game action. I like what he's saying gene. Which is that you know? He's fallen in love with basketball again which I mean now. I don't know if I truly loved that full statement. I mean you're an NBA players love the game but but it's a positive direction for him because there's some there's some conversations about his work ethic and wanting to improve his shot so if that's the case and we were were moving more towards. Ben Simmons being a complete player I am all for because his ceiling is the sky's the limit there there you go thank you. What is the Cliche I want to go with. The roof. Is How about visit bill. You know what makes you fall in love with the game again. When I'm looking at things online that alleges that the Jenner daughter that he was dating cheated on him about six times Oh God and number two other every player's he these jen. What is it Gen xers? Do these days open relationship. There's let them let I it's to Hollywood. I can't even get into the love affairs of of the Kardashians and Jenner's and NBA players because I'll let Blake Griffin's roast later he did that he did that. You know what I'm talking about. Google Google absolutely and another player on the sixers Joel. Embiid said that he lost twenty pounds. He's in the best shape of his life. Do you think Philly has with a taste to win. The East tissue yeah they have the talent and they were they were like seventeen thousand bounces away possibly possibly being in the idol so yup. Yup Yeah why it doesn't get old. That was like this at this time last year. We were all clowning. Colli and he had the last laugh you see that was that's sure they had the last laugh. What what do you think the ball the. NBA and these tampering rules there now instituting. It's paperwork I mean they got the have after what happened happened in the summer. They had to do something because it was. It was foolish going on like. WHOA JR did his job which the rules allowed him to in a way but it was just he kinda put the NBA on blast by releasing every single deal will money years as soon as the quote unquote deadline passed so it was just too blatant that they had to respond in my opinion. I think is like an investment and if Adam silver here's the number one thing the NBA should do if I get fine for tampering with Kawhi Leonard Fifty Thousand Dollars. I should not be able to sign him. That's what you do these you must fines are disinvestments for millionare's right right so if I gotta pay ten million dollars to trapper with Anthony Davis is worth it. It's just it's it's tough though because if we're talking about players turning over their phones 'cause 'cause tampering. Tampering is a is it's a hard things like Jello. It's hard to kind of grab fully so I think the NBA PA PA they're going to push back if if really means them going into players phones because th that opens up a whole can of worms that I don't I don't. I don't know we all really I want to know what's going on. We saw Tom. Brady handled his cell phone yeah and how the NFL kind of allow that story to go away. Uh as you here we really musically culturally driven on this show and as somebody that was born in one thousand nine hundred seventy three to me old all school is like grandmaster flash was old school rap or rb to you okay so ooh ooh nineties rb. I was born in eighty four so I will say like yeah. I mean one twelve aw sweat when I was a middle school. It was that joke where people come up to me like I know who likes you. Nobody I love mkx dances so key one twelve key sweat. I would say sure what could that was a little little more before. My time is nine. These aren't B. is my jam. I think yeah that's that's what I'm rockaway absolutely because that's the Go-to air and let me tell you what's missing music right now. One word groups group you have sores twelve so many groups that Rui. They're not exist anymore. What I wonder who could keep Chris Brown. Check yeah like I just saying who who do we got right now. Chris Brown the weekend who kind of bothers me because he sounds too much like like Michael Jackson but like just it's a makeshift version. I'm like this isn't Michael Jackson. I don't really WanNa hear. This tone like the tone is just not right it reminds me of what's proper which is you know. Michael Jackson's tone and not Michael Jackson but his tone and Esau. I don't really love the weekend. Who Else am I missing. That's that's a current. R&B It's really ladies who are running the R. and B. Kalani is running it. Who else who else is like running the arm be game. I'm not even sure trace all the and say I mean beyond say but beyonce as whole `nother category by herself so speaking of she. I just reminded me of the NFL now. Let's talk about Lebron James. NFL announced that Shakira J. Law during a halftime show your thoughts. Let's just I address Jaylo who is my spirit animal like I will say Jaylo who did also so have her reign on the nineties I. I don't necessarily love her music. I am her number number one fan when it comes to anti aging like can I get that shit you rocking but I have seen leaner perform at her her vegas residency and she's a performer so I think she'll put on a show and she has songs that people no no. I wouldn't say that they're like you know the best songs but at least people can rock with them. Shakira I did see Shakira was trending yesterday. I'm not J. LO Shara has a very very loyal fan base. I'm not part of that fan base. I think her voice kind of sounds like don't come from you should care pinched her voice kind of sounds like a goat but I guess I understand her her flavor and I think it's going to be a big party. at halftime show and it will be entertaining as hell yes and they were trying to get the Miami by the dance dance and but deals in the Bronx but I get it. I get it but you also China. They're trying to get that ECLECTIC by they. Were trying to what they really trying WANNA. Do is get away from rap music number one. Let me just say that. That's what they try and these. I contribution you know he did have input on the halftime show what was the last time they had anyone in hip hop on as a minute. It's been a minute they'll do is they'll put maroon five. They're big boy. Come to verse for example Right. Ask No Atlanta representation correct life light how how about this the hood remedy for the NFL. This is what they as soon as they could have done in Miami. Of course everybody loves J. LO as secure and it's going to be a great show and they're going to break the Internet and all of that good stuff over under they show a rot five times bet on that there your bit right there yeah however would have liked to see luke skywalker. Walker in two live crew loss trick Daddy Trina. Oh okay you know what let's pause. Keep that bottled up all that emotion because obviously there's GonNa be a lot of people who have criticisms and then people wouldn't be excited no one's but now you're not going to please everybody but you know what we gotta. Do gotta get people with things on your taking what they need Jay Lane. We all got says this shelter our Guy Killer Bee Bruce Bernstein. We've been working together for like ten years. Here's the tonight days at those losers job walk to the program. Let's do this. Thank you shot chat outside Jacoby. Who's actually giving his friend a killer wedding speech right now? I appreciate being here with my big Bro. I can't believe it that Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes a one point. Seven percent a decrease in fixed overhead. Hello everybody no. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance guy go the projected increase in organic three revenue believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. We had had the goods on Thursday night. We pick it up in the fourth quarter. Tie Game went hands off the Jordan Howard when a three scores that he had that would put the eagles up now later in the fourth worth its fourth and goal Rogers tries to hit Jimmy Graham in the end zone but look he tries to go for that highlight catch the one hander. Maybe not the smartest move packers I would end up turning over on downs with twenty five seconds left in the game down a touchdown second goal for Aaron Rodgers. You would think it'd be easy work but no intercepted at the goal line the Eagles Win thirty four twenty seven wasn't a pretty win for the eagles I mean they committed nine penalties that cost them about ninety three yards but a win. Win is a win in Carson. Wentz was pretty pumped up walking out of Lambeau with the w you know especially the point of the season that we're at going to and to a heck of a lot better than being one and three Thursday night game on the road in Lambo a lot of things you know against working against us this week but to come in here and fight to the end the defense coming up big at the end a huge huge win for so when says huge win but did this win saved the Eagles Season Day. I wouldn't say saved it season. They were all this John Jackson. They have multiple injuries in particular on their defense but I think it's a confidence builder for Carson Wentz. Remember this guy has to show up at work every day cassidy acidy and see a statue of Nick foles because he was under center when they won the Super Bowl and people started to question him can can he get it done and so now at the dropping so many passes the first couple weeks. Philadelphia's shows up this week and their defense did close goes out the game but man the packers made it easier for you. Get down on the goal line. You have Aaron Rodgers. You're in the reds all multiple times. You're not able to execute you think. Philadelphia's defense led the charge in particular in the red zone but I'll tell you the the Green Bay packers lot left a golden opportunity the author on the field. I do wonder how that a Philly fan is feeling after this one. I'm sure he's happy now happy now. There was there actually was. I thought I did see something in this game. That made me so happy. There really isn't a lot of better feelings than you know the perfect comeback to an insult so take a look at this play. Avantis maddox thought he successfully defended a pass at the goal line wagging his finger in Allen lazard space now the subtle point to the flag. I don't know why gave me satisfaction like no her fit comebacks. Is that a top tap five feeling in life. Absolutely that's the way keeping it real goals wrong. You think you make the play you look around. There's laundry on the field you feel like are you going to cost your football team but the eagles defense stood up when they need it most my whole town brother. Brandon Graham was getting up the field towards the quarterback and anytime in the game with an interception against Aaron Rogers says a lot for your confidence and do want to have one point here as an update on Maddox was is carted off the field at the end of the game he does have feeling in all of his extremities are basically it was just cautionary reasons that they wanted to take him to the hospital so good good news there for Matt. Now you mention the injuries the eagles defense so I think Philly's fans they will be interested in this news as it doesn't look like the Jacksonville. Jaguars Jaguars are going to repair their relationship with Jalen Ramsey. He was on uninterrupted seventeen weeks podcasts on Thursday and reiterated that is just not so good. I'm not sure if I've played my final game for the jags yet or not but my trae requests still stands for me. Respect is is a huge thing I yeah I kind of touched on it a little bit last week. In last week's podcast but wants respect is loss for both parties. I think is time to part ways as Jay. How do you think this plays out for Ramsey. The rest of the season so respect and professional sports equals pay me when you we have the opportunity. He showed up in the brinks truck. He's shown proven to be an all pro player and they don't pay them. You see other people on a squad logging pay gave a big deal to nick foles and he likes what about meat and so now you start the season not so enthusiastic about being there where you have a blow up on the sideline with the head coach your significant other expecting your second baby so Monday you said you sit on Tuesday you you say you have a back injury and Wiz and you want to go be there for the birth of your child. If I'm the Jacksonville Jaguars I have to be patient here. Do not rush a saw. The Miami Dolphins get to Earth round picks for Laremy Tunsil. Jalen Ramsey is a proven commodity. Don't just give them away. I will say I I don't have any more patients for listening to the story is our Momo's getting fatigue Jalen Ramsey because it's like every other day we got to talk about about what's going on with him but I digress. I understand that patience is a virtue there. you know what we got right now. Got Some breaking news to Jalen and Jacoby Jalen. You've been talking about this for a while. How the longer the cowboys wait to pay Dak the more expensive. He's going to be any sort of made that same point earlier this week. Take a list simply. The reason we're have a contract talks is because of what I'm on the field so that's the main focus and that's my focus in everything I do talk about the ads the marketing and all other stuff realistically none of that happens if I'm not handling my business on the field talk for me. It's about taking care of that the best player I can and a lot of good things great things happen when you do that. He's saying I'm betting myself Jay so what has been the difference for data this season because he's been shown out confidence. You could just tell how after these winds when he goes to the podium he understands who he is as a quarterback and he continues to ascend going into this year. A lot of people probably felt that was maybe a top ten or fifteen. Thank quarterback now the way the team is playing not a way to he's play. The price keeps going up. They took care of a couple of players on defense. They took who cares Zeke Elliott in the backfield and if you look around the league there lot of quarterback gotten paid cassidy that ain't no for their playoff success like Andy Dalton like Derek Carr like Matthew Stafford like Jimmy Garoppolo so just sitting back like show me the money you see. He's is going to get his opportunity to put up big numbers. Now is Jerry go to war him like one of the top quarterbacks in the league. The quarterback position is the most valuable able position in sports and this is America's team that needs the show out and so does Jerry Jones so the laundry weights as you say. I just feel like Daska continue to prove himself all right. Let's move on shore will the NFL speaking of owners may CBA pitch proposing a seventeen game sees is in eliminating preseason so Jalen an extra regular season game zero preseason games. How does that sound to degenerate. Nfl Fan like you say of eliminate pre season games absolutely just think about this year the the cardinals draft quarterback number one overall. He goes to the podium after preseason game. It says we're not running are all fidget. You look time and time again around the league. September has become the new preseason in a lot of ways because teams are playing nere players in these exhibition games. I like the seventeen game schedule. I hear some people throwing around the theory that they should add a weekend playoff. They also or another opportunity for different teams to get into the playoffs. I'm totally against Moore Teams in the playoffs but I am for one more regular regular season game yeah. I'm for definitely one more regular season game and as a bears fan see what they did in the preseason how they looked against the packers in week league one. I I WANNA say off preseason but I also don't want to start the season off all when one and I I just lead or we but I digress a you know. I also worry about the health because this is a brutal game. Sometimes you just need those those preseason games to you. Just get out there. get those Reps. Get the body back into that motion but I don't. I don't need five of those joints. So the season now resembles the pro bowl. Take the physics of football. You have really strong individuals running fast as they can hitting one another as hard as they can and the play is at over into the ball down. You're not doing that until you get paid for and they're not getting paid really for preseason. We talk about preseason. I wanted to bring up the story. I don't know if you know I dabble in some college football been covering college football my entire career at ESPN. This story really stood out to me. Houston senior quarterback Derek King decided to take a redshirt year this year after the cougars one and three start now K. is using he's in a rule that started last season that allows athletes to participate in up to four games during a season while maintaining their red shirt now. If King does decide to leave Houston after the season he would be entering his fifth year eligibility and would be a graduate transfer so he would not have to sit out a year. Now King says he's staying with Houston next season Bug A. He has is options jalen. What do you think of this move and what it says about player empowerment in college football now this is a boss move and you see player in power. Makati not to be thrown around in professional sports starting with the NBA and then all of a sudden you see NFL players exercise in that level of power you saw it with with Ohio State Nick Bolsa. He said an entire season to protect his draft status and then he was a high draft pick. It did not hurt him at all so these players now understand that. I'm commodity I gotTa Find Loopholes in order to keep myself healthy but also protect my best interest and that's hopefully to play on Sundays now. In this case the only thing I would want worry about doke. Is You have teammates and they see you putting on the season because because you're basically saying that we're not GONNA get goals accomplished this year now. He's got to turn around and lead those same guys as the quarterback next year yeah and also a senior wide receiver in Houston also red shirt endanger holder the head coach there said well. We're not giving up on the season pretty much. You guys giving up on the season. I know there's no tanking in college football because there's no draft picks to get but this is a full on tape day. Absolutely it is and the one thing about doing onus. They're going to be good next year so now what you do. Is You get your good recruiting class. You bring back your eight-plus receiver. You bring your quarterback back in their office is going to Bahamian the you know. They like to get up and down the field and you talked about covering college football. I have to say this. Take it from somebody. That's fortunate enough to be on. ABC every now and live they'll let too many people get on there so I'll see you represent. Thank you my friend. Thank you know gets on. ABC A lot Michigan. Maybe maybe they won't be on. ABC a whole lot later on because it's Oh haven't lived up to the expectations is and it doesn't get any easier. Take a look at their upcoming schedule Jay because it's tough Michigan they got some brutal opponents rutgers and number fourteen eighteen Iowa at home at Illinois at number twelve Penn State and home against number ten Notre Dame. We haven't even gotten into when they take on Ohio. Oh state now. You know has been getting heat constantly this week. There was urban Meyer. Rumors swirling around re says that's not GonNa going to happen. you've been saying all along to the hot seat talk with Harbaugh. Who else are you going to get so but looking at that schedule. What has to happen tinned for you to put her on the hot seat? I got a future Java Urban Meyer S at USC. I'm just planting that seed for Jim Harbaugh. Here's the think thank Dole's next. Five Games are going to be paramount to keeping his young men engaged for the rest of the year. You just talk to me about a Houston team that had quarterback and a wide receiver basically doing what they have to do to protect themselves for next year. If this team plays anywhere a remote leaves the way it did it gets Wisconsin in any of those games then all of a sudden the young men in the locker room. Don't have the level of enthusiasm. Go out there and compete at an elite level. Now I feel bad for rutgers because we bought the beat the brakes off at him like Nah. I better look at the score and his sixteen sixteen zero at one point of the game like I really need to see that so did they get their confidence back going. Jim harbaugh not on the hot seat in my mind but this the rest of the season playing against those teams and you also talked about Ohio state late in the year the great thing about having arriver cassidy is basically or you can lose a lot of games but you beat Ohio state. That makes our seas. I hear you I hear you but I will. I will believe it when I see it not because that's the problem but they haven't been convincing this year. They've been convincing that they are the same old disappointing Michigan Right now so I pray for you because that's what we're not just talking about like an upset for like rutgers upsetting Michigan Michigan do your point needs to beat the brakes off rutgers then continue to build from there into your point if they continue to build from there and they can knock off Michigan state in the knock up Ohio state than okay with brand new store. Oy You know what time it is. It's time for news so this is a story hey that has me and my feelings. Japan Airlines has now released a Seton that shows passengers were babies are sitting now as a mother of a nine month old key offended if this actually takes the burden off of me because all these people sitting around me already know that you're gonNA have to deal with my little girl screaming because you signed up for this Jay. How do you feel about this. I like kiss a lot because it's a level of transparency that other passengers deserve as a parent as well as a frequent traveler just like yourself itself. That is a big thing depending on where you going in when you gotta work those red is for example could be brutal if somebody has their infant it sitting next to you so I appreciate this level of information and I'm glad that they having this type of transparency with their airlines airlines okay Harland our producers asking me if we should. They should charge more for that because I can't ask that question because I don't want to think that they should charge charge more for bringing a baby on the this makes me magic even asking this question not at all but here's a couple of things. I want you to think about as you trump yep. I think people should be arrested that come from the coach and use the bathroom in First Class. Did it's not about the number one felony though is leaving your place in the line to Deplane. I think that's the number one flagrant. You're rushing. If you don't wait your turn to deplane I like that I see you go in there and the other one is when you inter- to play at people know Nason all the way in the back. They were all of their bags in first class. Take crafty crafty. You now know my figure but I do see Spun first-class Komo. GonNa tell me now who's GonNa tell me just saying my big bro Jalen and Jay. This says the segment that I dreamed about doing today. It's soft move Boston a days. After Tampa Bay Kicker Matt Gay Miss a thirty four yard field goal in the final seconds of a one point game well a women's deodorant brand secret secret. They ran an ad featuring. US Women's national team starter Carli Lloyd that mock both the kicker and his fans remember a few weeks ago we saw Lloyd Loyd kicking a fifty five yard field goal Jalen trolling an MBA NFL fan and a field goal kicker. Were they killed or an ad. Is that soft move or boss move. I definitely think this is a boss move and the way I see her kick a fifty plus yarder. They don't they don't get nano. Everybody's out there running as fast as they can hit somebody as hard as they can. I believe thirty four yards. He gotTa make that now. We're looking at the coach and widely take the delay of game penalty and all of that. No you gotTa make thirty four yard field goal. I believe she would have made it so boss. Move Look I am a huge fan of Carli Lloyd but this goes back to prove it when it's life. It was a nice clip. I need to see it more than once. You Get on the bandwagon to kind of throw a professional field goal kicker kicker under the bus us here this is this is his livelihood. This is what he's been training to do. We all have our bad days. I love the movement behind Carli Lloyd it. The sentiment is nice but also it is a viral clip at this point so if we if we're being real not trying to be cute all right Carl like if this is something you really want to do then. I'll I'll. I'll support it but right now. It's just it's just clip say. Let's let's let's move on to the NBA The AG League. They're they're doing some experimenting and they have a new rule where all trips to the free throw line. You get one shot and you will be you'll be awarded the points depending on the nature of the foul so soft move or boss move g league's new single shot free-throw Breath rover soft move. Don't mess with the ethics of the Games like certain things since the beginning time that happened happened like the free throw shots fifteen feet like the height of the basket is ten feet tall. There's certain things that are just basic. Okay Eh free throw. Shooting is an important part of a basketball game time and time again. You must step to the line and make your free. We drove. I don't like lowering the bar free. Throw shooting just to try to act like you speeding up the game and that's that's the point though because the the rule pretty much is to speed up the game so I mean I know that there's a lot of purposes for the G. League. It's to develop players but if you're really trying to make the G. League into something that people respect as competition wise and want to watch and consume you. GotTa actually respect the game and you know worrying about how how long it's taking doesn't actually respect the game look and to your point being at the free throw line and feeling that type of pressure that is what helps they make pro athletes because they need to perform when it matters most so for real soft move for me. Let's move onto my cubs. We're now will eliminated from the playoffs but big reason is Joe Madden things that they didn't bond that much and he wishes that his players went out and drink more instead of sitting in their hotel rooms playing video games so soft move or boss move a manager wanting to steam to go out and party with each other instead of just hanging out in their hotel room. I think the coach the skipper onto something and what he says is a boss smoothed as my sister from another mother. You know this time and time again. Chemistry on teams doesn't always get made during company time on the bus on the plane on the floor. Some of the best bonding experience I happens in sports happen in restaurants. They happened in Strip clubs. They happen in nightclubs. These are the type of these bring. Are you close together Bill Chemistry. Would you say what do you say champagne and campaigning and every year is as a campaign to win that title and I agree and anything in anything in life success comes from chemistry whether it's personal at-home whether it's at work. I don't care if you're on camera or your team. Any kind of chemistry that you build with your colleagues just makes it easier to communicate communicate with each other. If you're constantly having to fight against this wall of not how not understanding what each other is thinking or doing that that just make Su not as productive and chemistry is everything in my book and I think if you look back at at championship teams you can point out that those guys really liked each other even in a situation with copy and shack where they didn't like each other they at least understood each other okay so let's move on to another baseball story. The Rangers Mike Minor this he was at one hundred ninety nine strikeouts with one out in the ninth inning when the Red Sox Chris owings had a pup foul that first first Baseman Ronald Guzman at my urging allowed to drop so owns at bat continued in minor struck him out on the next pitch to reach two hundred case for the first time in his career Jalen asking your teammates pad your stats for you. Soft move or boss move ultimate soft move. I was disappointed appointed by this because baseball is the one sport that time and time again hits us over the head and talked about the unwritten rules in the game. Ah You cross those lines what is going to happen to you now. If you're a cell pitcher you still gonNA find a way to get that strike out. You already got one ninety nine. You gotta get one more. It's okay so I think this is a soft move. I didn't like it at all. Yeah I mean if we're allowing pitchers. This pad their stats. Bring back steroids because that's what I was really interested in the game. I WanNa see all of the home runs. That's the real stat padding. I WanNa see I mean yeah. I know I'm not alone. He's also co xactly. I saw him saying bring McGuire. Sammy Sosa that that dual there was no no no better time in baseball in my opinion but I I am glad Frank McGuire Mark Maguire. I am so glad that you here. Here's a die-hard cubs fan. I just gotta ask. You die hard cardinals fan but what Sammy Sosa door with his skin these days. I'm not going to get fired here on this show Jalen. It's time for the weekend review go ahead at the Games in the NFL this weekend. We start with two undefeated teams. We have the three zero chiefs against instore lions. Can They Stop Patrick Mahomes. Nobody can stop Patrick Mahomes so I'm not even foolish to act like we're we're going to have Dick Night. TRAIN LANE PLAN DEFENSE FOR US of William Gay Al Bubba Baker some of the greatest lions of all time. We're GONNA the need them to slow him down because he is on a track to win back-to-back. MVP's however I'll see them slowing us down either. We got a hundred hundred million dollar man under center. Even though Patrick is going to get two hundred million we have Kerryon Johnson who could get over one hundred fifty yards out of the backfield is going to be an exciting game is going to be close gay the lions by a field goal. Oh there's no there's there's no homers. There's no homer is in there at all right. Let's keep moving. Let's keep moving Daniel Jones and the giants back at add it they're taking on the lowly. Owen three redskins. Are you a believer in the G. men no Saquon Barkley but Daniel Jones got that hype machine going well. At least he gives them optimism because Washington it just totally looking for an identity. At least the giants understand if if they protect their quarterback he's going to be able to spread the football around anytime you have. Evan Ingram and sterling shepherd both catcher for over one hundred yards in his first start and they came back from eighteen down largely without Saquon Barkley. Things are looking for the giants. I'm taking them to win this game. Okay we're talking Browns Ravens Baker Mayfield Lamar Jackson those two quarterbacks who's more appropriately ranked in your opinion all Lamar Jackson listen was so slept on coming into the season people figured he wasn't going to be able to develop into a guy that can make passes out of the pocket rocket and Baker Mayfield's get a lot of commercials but now we need the browns the put up Earl Thomas talked about it this week about how they want to put a muzzle alone that hype train I always bet for defense and the Ravens keep one on the John Harbaugh. I'm going Ravens here. Okay a a couple more undefeated teams patriots and bills both three no one more surprising than the other are you on Buffalo's bandwagon no shots the buffalo fans at all but one of the most overrated names in sports is bills Mafia. This seems like those two things don't go together but with that being said I'm happy to be given them some law because for national media consumption. We're not talking about their style defense. We're not talking about enough enough about their dual threat quarterback leading them to a three and I'll start however that is this week in the Patriots. Get it done and stay undefeated led by Tom. Brady if they can beat the Patriots for all the tables out there okay. Let's finish off with a big fight. Your huge huge boxing fan your thoughts on the fight this weekend truce Biz junior the bell some some porter after all. This is GonNa be great theater like Porter's pressure fighter okay. It's GONNA BE INTERESTING TO Z. Because there's hasn't necessarily GONNA get somebody like this but I tell you spins is fantastic. Body puncher is GonNa be interesting at the staple center to see these two titans in the rain. I say spits junior maintains his belt Saturday not while I appreciate you having me in your ring today Jacoby. It's got a weekend again of wedding so hopefully he'll be okay but he will be in this seat on Monday. I appreciate you big Bro. This was an honor to fill in. That's mutual say the new baby.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 716  Unsung Heroes

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 716 Unsung Heroes

"<music> walkner episode seven sixteen of the sleeper and the bus it is Monday July fifteenth. I'm your host Paul Sport and I'm joined by J and J. I got just an adjacent. What's up guys? How's it going see I was going to let just talk? I it's going well. I was in Baltimore this weekend with the three games including my first double header in thirty years <hes> then I flew home Sunday morning and Dan there Mr Perfect game that would <unk> absolute Gut Punch. I talked tax. Hey there you there and I think I've told the story before but I've never ever seen a no hitter in a minor or Major League baseball game. Let alone a perfect game. I was ago. I see now to dude. I was supposed to go with Mike Scott. The no hitter against the giants to clinch the l West and eighty six. I was supposed to go to that game to see on my progress report and geometry. My Dad took the neighbor instead. That's a baller move right there that is as your father instilling discipline and did it work but I have never seen one like I'm sitting there Sunday and I'm watching because it'd be it'd been a long hot beacon a Baltimore so we got home but London thirty and I was just chilling <hes> lay in bed watching the game in about the sixth inning I was like hey nobody's been on bass. I wouldn't even I was just kind of casually watching the screen and I noticed on like there's a lot of Zeros up there. Then it got to the ninth and then obviously he had ground ball the second base. There's nobody there and people are like oh no shift on like if you watch that game there's like four or five hits. They got saved by the shift four or five lasers at one of this should have been hit so we're perfectly look so give it away but yeah I mean it's just like the normal setup does which is why it's so stupid when people still do that like it is it's so nauseating that people still still do that even if it's like a as a mean like shut up but that was an interesting series Brendan Mckay obviously he got sent out after that but he's not going to have to be down the whole ten days because he was the twenty sixth man in the double header so it doesn't really count as a come up and so he could return in short order bottom don't write back Friday he is he is obviously knowing this guys go up and down. Just hang on don't worry about it and we back Brandon McCain's awesome but we actually have a few trades talk about we'll get into some of the bigger fab pickups and then we're GonNa talk about a section of unlikely heroes guys that you know where those mid to late picks waiver wire fodder in some in some shower leagues that are now contributing in a big way to teams and we'll get your thoughts on what you guys think they could. It'd be going forward but let's talk about the two deals they're not huge. <hes> hopefully we start to see things really ramp up I it could or it could be a total bust. I really is kind of that either or situation. It feels like because so many teams like fancy themselves into and even if they're not I think at this point of the year worrying about the games behind as opposed to the teams in between you and the wildcard is really foolish way to commit yourself that you actually contending but we saw that the orioles and royals acknowledged where they are. They both both traded pieces Andrew Cash ner goes over to Boston and Homer Bailey goes to Oakland start with cash. I was actually been pitching quite well now. This isn't quite 2017 cash into where it was a stone cold over the top OP lockdown fluke in every conceivable way. He deserved like none of that three forty e._R._A.. For one hundred sixty seven innings he had a <hes> eighty six strikeouts and sixty four walks. That's a one three strikeout-to-walk ratio. Will you know whether you put it in percentages or per. Nines bad doesn't matter so the four sixty one fifth was telling you what you need to know about cash this year. He's got a three eighty three E._R._A.. With the four twenty six V so that's that's in line and the strikeout-to-walk ratio is up to two point three. which is it just fine? There's still not a Lotta strikeouts but he's not walking guys got some back and now he goes to an organization that is going to support him a lot. Better now granted he was nine and three so of all people could cry about bad support on on a bad team Andrew Cash. It was not one of them but Jason I'll start with you. This is a guy who was toting a three thirty e._R._A.. In sixty innings over his last ten starts and that includes a couple mega duds one in coors what you would have easily avoided even if you're trying to spot start him and then the other there was a against San Francisco at home which you would take it on the Chin because if you were going to spot start cashing in that's the kind of thing you would start against so it's been a mixed bag though he's beaten New York twice his new team Boston he went into Houston stood tall. Is there something here with Andrew Kastner that makes them more mixed league viable at this point Jason I think so so a couple of notes with a one you you already hinted the run support. He was already six here. The six best run support in baseball that is your pain right if for the oral but that's what the other central boomer bus US lineup <unk> but they can they can they can still spread a hit the ball very well and he had the six best run support number one by the way that water Rodriguez and so so the relocation there doesn't do anything. I think that the value here is the better defense I mean he had nine wins and was pitchy well for a bad Baltimore Defense and Marla contact he realized how being turned into out so yeah you're right there that could definitely improve and maybe shave save a few extra here and there for Kashmir all of that getting rid of the sinker I mean that's singer garbage pail and he's to stop throwing it. You look at his pitch allegation. That singer went from the mid thirties to five percent and now he's throwing more change up so he's he's pitching like l.. Fastball changeup down in throw some sliders you watch. He doesn't look like Andrew Caster. Hell that facial beard. He looks like just in Mason now here you know he looks like <hes> is the Justin Justin the Andrew Cash I wanted him to become with the padres which was to get get rid of that to seamer and go for Seymour secondary stuff more often. The thing was he would snap one of those ninety six two seamers and it would you know it was completely off the plane they would snap back over the plate and see that like three or four times a game and it was enough to make you think that it was good but it was confusing because the other times it was getting beaten around the yard when it wouldn't move or it would just hang and it was just a back at bad pitch Justin. Do you also believe that there is a little something here that makes Andrew Casher now with Boston more mixed league viable yes no I believe that he has made some changes that had that's helped contribute to kind of this resurgent. I do not believe it's necessarily that sustainable. I mean you you quoted as fit but I mean we we go over and look at the tip and the Sierra both are hovering around five. I mean the big change is really serious on the X._M.. That it would be that high though because I don't see anything over the top as far as homer's being stifled eleven percent home at a fly ball rate even if the average is up a couple points this year so he has a one point zero homer nine. I don't know I don't see it as as agreed. I know the bad because very low at two fifty six but as Jason highlighted that could not have such a major regression based on the improved defense behind him so I think I might disagree with V. They're a little bit in terms of their outlook on on cash ner. I think that's fair I mean I've been really impressed by the changeup. It's been by VAL. It's been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year which I think is large part of the reason why he's doing so well are also <hes> the increased ground ball ray at the lower fly ball rate obviously helping kind of in this home run environment that being said I just don't trust answer caster. I understand the trepidation yeah. I don't know that I want the upside is so small considering what the downside will be. That's that's a good way to highlight now. We'll say we're doing this later. We usually do Monday morning but the to get the three of us together. This time was perfect. I was definitely worth so weekly. Leagues are kind of already set because there was a day game today which is very rare for Monday so we would we would becoming Meyer just margin and stepped up her mom Marquez Yikes but cash in leagues where you pick up daily is actually going to be up for to start Toronto at home and then Ah Baltimore that sounds like something I would want to jump on but then New York at home than very next week says it's like <hes> Jason again for these two and cutting or would you reserve cashier if he's if he does well in these starts and then you want to avoid them next week at the versus the Yankees at home yeah I would do that strategy taken this week reserves through because you look you look through after that these the Yankees tough start angels tough match-up then he picks up the orioles again then he's likely likely to get the padres then he's like to get the angels to get. You know what that's scheduled. That's not a bunch of great matchups to hear the September then you've got the Yankees that you've got the Jays than you have of the giants. There's a good one then you have the rangers ears and that's probably his last start of the regular season so that's not a great schedule for him. The rest of the it's Kinda touch and go and it goes to Justin's point about the upside versus the potential risk now it all depends on your situation to some people are looking for any oasis assistant pitching Gimme six innings four runs a non implosion. That's obviously not a great start but like some people are dying just for that just to get some volume. Maybe squeeze four or five strikeouts onto that. They're in a more desperate situation. I think fifteen eighteen mix I would I would take the gamble in twelve team makes this week maybe like a ten team ahead for this week but long-term Eileen coaster what justin sane about juice probably not worth the squeeze and I think Jason would agree with that as well that we're. I'm not GonNa bend over backwards for this but it is at least a Bible spot start play which if you guys had told me he was coming into the season I would laugh down to the rim. I really didn't see any help. Ranjha cash coming into this year. I got a question for when you're doing weekly Pitcher rakings. How deep do you get into the rankings before you throw up in your mouth little as fifteen nowadays justin us to have weekly? I don't do weekly because of the vomit I would have a Safa Gio problems Dr Price Stop Bad. Much vomiting the acid was winning my esophagus because it takes no honestly the July rankings when I posted them. I was like I lived to tell the story here because it's so it got so bad so quick. I almost felt like the boy who cried wolf because we've been complaining about it all year at least and we'll take a small vacation because the all star break like you wrangles like decompress after yes because John why was definitely the worst amped a level of awfulness especially as as the newcomers like g Lido. You were kind of showing some cracks now. I can't even Ryan these new guys that are coming through. Matthew Boyd was having a few bumpy one. Those are two guys who are moving up you had John. It's been your top forty five. It was like that's all starts on me all star on means that all star John you know who else could be on his way up the way he's been pitching lately as Homer Bailey the other guy who was traded and he goes out to Oakland and now I think folks are hoping if an Oakland Fan that this is this year's Mike fires <hes> because of what he did last year which actually he's continued by the way if you look at Mike Fires. He's doing exactly what you did last year which is completely beating the metrics. He's got a four sixty one V three sixty one E._R._A.. <hes> just doing his normal thing. I think people were hoping that Bailey can do the same here. He gets a team improvement but again his improvements aren't as big as as getting off of a team would normally be because yeah it goes to a big park. He already was in one and I I feel like the defense actually was one of their strengths particularly the outfield that it'd be one of the things that was actually pretty decent so I don't even know if he's getting upgrades there or not by by moving here but what do you guys think about the Homer Bailey outlook. He's had a few you good spurts of usefulness but I worry that it's something back to adjust instead about <hes> cashier that maybe the downside just isn't worth it because when it's bad it's really bad justin. How do you feel about homer Bailey going over to Oakland coming off a hot streak of of his own yeah? I don't think this is going to end well either. The only nice thing about Bailey as opposed to cash the strike outs have really taken an uptick this year yes so at least you're getting something when things are going poorly we just. I don't know that there's a format. I want homer Bailey on my team. You know one of my favorite pitchers I think has become a big problem in this era with the home runs because when you miss with the splitter it's gone and we've seen Tanaka deal with this even when the ball doesn't fly and while I do love the splitter it is such a volatile pitch when you don't have that feel it is just floating in there as like a eight to ten mile an hour slower than your fastball sometimes even more depending on what kind of splitter they throw. It's nine miles in Bailey's case and it's just it's it's like an auto homer at this point so that does worry me and that breeds extra volatility for Bailey but I will point out that when he's on he's been really early on his last six to eighty three I._R._A.. In thirty five innings with twenty nine strikeouts so not too far from that strikeouts per inning he started the season with some interesting stuff based off of that slide off of that splitter excuse me but then went on a run that <hes> that has your vomiting again. It was a let's see your szepen an eight start run with a seven thirty one e._R._A.. In thirty two innings so again you have to do that calculus of is this potential downside of getting Jordan lyles with the start that he had recently are Herman Marquez D- Is it worth potentially taking one of those two. Maybe squeeze out a handful of good starts here and that's what you have to ask yourself. When you're picking up some homer Bailey or cash? We'll say Jason before they talking about Bailey. I get Seattle this week and then it sets up for to start the following week but it's at Houston and home to Texas. So what what do you do it with Baileigh. That's exactly what I was just going to bring up the fact that you know at least in at least in the A._l.. Central He had other lineups that Ah pick out a little bit now he's GonNa Alley as Houston and Texas right out of the gate and Dach- that's your fear and that's that's the problem with them. I mean yes the expansive foul territory should help for a guy. That's featuring the splitter but even this weekend is you're talking. What about that? I'm remembering the <hes> the home run Renault Nunez hit off Yanni Torino's which was actually a good splitter but even a bad splitter. It was a good splitter. What would a way out of the zone and Nunez one armed it through eight rows deep in the left Centerfield? How the hell do you do that? Oh yeah the baseball throw your good splitter can get hit out right now. That's the probably GonNa have a Texas lineup which could put a hurt on you and astras lineup which put hurt on you and they're not even full strength yet. Don't don't sleep on the angels earlier those guys can they can hit that you mentioned that with the cashier lineup as one of the tougher teams their sixth in woburn against righties. They don't strike out either either so somebody like cash is going to get no strikeouts and somebody like Bailey is going to get fewer when that's supposed to be his saving grace and obviously if trout's out that's a different calculus there but I don't know why I keep saying Calculus. I'M GONNA use it fifty two more times but you know they they can be difficult when trout and when their full strength the angels as well so be careful there so both these guys deeper formats. You know you just now you have to you. Can't you can't just what are you going to do formats or make it harder for you to come back in this format like yeah but but you can't you'll fall behind in volume. If you just do relievers like you have to put starters out there in these in these fifteen teamer than of course AOL own. I'll tell you this though all Genera has Bailey in L. Tout to start week and he's on his bench and that's one of our litmus tests of whether or not you you should keep a guy if you can't start going to start a week you have to categorize is faster lineup because I cut catcher a month ago. <hes> what did you think good out of him. Did you have forgotten I use them and then I got rid of him. I got a couple of wins is right out of the gate. Out of them are kept more weekly was gone but yeah no. He's got to start India to start Barcelo to start Kastner. These got Morton and Gibson on single starts. <hes> Elliot's Giles Rogers and Presley make up his pen but he has a prelude. Ill Ah yeah it is but he's got. He's got his bench when he could have been Ronald Guzman who has been terrible move nate low to swing and gone ten pitchers this week so we have an option of putting Balian but he left him out okay well. Let's be clear I'm not saying bend over backwards. Run out and go get these guys at all costs. That's exactly but the nose pile up after a while and you're like why don't have anybody here and I'm not GonNa put you know the CODA Hudson and I I guess he's he's kind of Kashmiri Schnur and words a ground ball rate that releases stains but anyway those guys got enough press there. Let's talk about some Fab from last night. Some of the key pickups see where you guys are add on them. You listed Philip Irvine up at the top here just in which did intrigue me because I actually picked him up not not because of the six hit game like that was cool and all but that's not why you pick somebody up main reason was because I'm nervous about Jesse winker who went out with an oblique injury which we don't have news on yet and I have winker so I was picking up trying to pick up a potential preemptive backup backup and I got urban for just two bucks so let's assume the worst here because that's what we do with injuries. He's not in the lineup on Monday expected to be available off the bench. We'll see how that goes. This is even worse by the way when when it's like that middling injury so you don't know they don't go to the I l. but they just kind of linger for bit for winker. What could you see out of Irvine if wink if we did have to hit the I l. and opened some playing time form Justin? I think he's a guy who's always kind of crushed left east but he's actually holding his own pretty well against righties this year too and he plays good enough defense. I think the the give him every day at bats. If winker has hit the I L. I think this is a guy that he's not gonNA for a ton. A ton of power is just that's not really his game but if you're struggling in the batting average department I mean he's pro. I think he could probably like two seventy to eighty in kind of the absence of winker and I think that is something thing that I think some people look at the ratio categories at this time of the year and go well. I'm not GonNa make much movement and a lot of people including Todd Zola who've done studies that show they actually move a lot more than people I think and sometimes a little more than the <hes> the county category it's just really tough to track and that's the problem these and the other categories you're like okay. I am eight behind his strikeouts but you look at the look at the whip they'll take at one point three nine four okay well. How many if a guy threw the ball me? You probably saw the damage today if you had her mom marquess saw in ratio that's all it takes to good starts could move it as much as one bad start does yeah Jason you make a great point there times you do have to work extra hard to erase a dud and Marquez is going to take like legitimately like four gems off of your team to erase the damage there but there's two reasons y they move and just highlighted how a lot of people have done research Todd Zola's been out front on the folks have done it at at all the various sites two reasons one. They're usually more compact and so you could be six spots away but it's really not that much. In whip borough to people can come down to that can happen in homer's. You can't get negative seven homers for the week. They're always adding even if it's smaller than you and obviously you're getting closer to them but with the I._R._A.. You can get the the the double whammy you guys go off and they have her mind Marquez Voila. He was six points ahead of you. All of a sudden you guys meet in the middle as you bypass so do not let your talking about this her mind Marquez Guy. Did he have about outing or something today. It didn't go so well. I don't think he's getting the seventeen wins in a three fifteen the area this year. Don't just don't see that happening I I don't I don't see it but can't talk about it because I don't have good main event team and if you don't can't talk about players it's the rule. It's the the rule it's in the handbook and you just get it. You ask a dip shits for the handbook and they'll put it right there. It's written crayons ratios getting to the ratios almost at this point. My favorite strategy is is just to start tearing things up and seeing. If you could move if if you can stay where you are you could possibly move up like Justin and I were talking before you before. You got back on the call like E._R._A.. Wise Pot horses leading the league with three sixty four actually tied with David three sixty four and then leave but what's there at three point six nine but then like the next here's Rick and Glenn at four point zero nine waking up four tenths of Iran is really tough this time of year like I four point six. There's that gap between third and fourth place so but I could look at okay but like I'm at four point three six and benders behind me a four point four eight so I figure I could maybe jump to fourth place or I could slide the seventh place but there's no way I'm getting a third place. Either is almost three quarters of a run difference between me third place. That's just not something I can catch but if I look if I go look at O._B.. Beyond leading league three forty three Ericsson's at three forty and then Rob Rob's three and a half points behind me right now I'm in I he's in second overall. He's at three thirty four so I'm looking at that like okay. I have make almost a ten a nine point lead on him but two weeks ago it was reversed so I made up nine points of O._B.. In two weeks so I can lose nine points in two weeks but there's only so far I can. I can backslide. That's a great white about this. Guy's is coming back to you but it's not you keep doing your thing and maybe other teams go down but in counting categories constantly chasing so I one direction up Yep and and put a bow on it or could help you out with the batting average if he gets the time keep an eye on winker. We don't know right now about hitting like up high in the lineup when he is in so that's a solid second so they've come around. Cardinals rumors rockies his next four until the Pittsburgh expert closes up the month. That's the next four series for the reds while so they're staying in division for quite a bit there. Let's stay in that division as well and talk about Daniel on Stanley own who definitely was a hot ticket item in a light week. It was admittedly a light week there but positively on when I think would have gotten attention even in a more aggressively because he's been pitching really well. He's now down to a one ninety nine era with thirty eight strike God's in his thirty one and two thirds. It's it's <hes> reliever starter split but he's coming off of a June twelve July twelth start right. Excuse me where he went six and two thirds three hits one run seven strikeouts zero walks Jason. Let's start with you on Daniel Punts de Leone. What kind of outlook does he have here is he? Somebody that that you're looking at it. As a rest of season sorta guy for the cardinals yeah yeah I mean the weird team is trying to figure out because they have you know you look at that. You expect that team to hit well and they haven't hit well. In fact. I wrote up his <hes> actually the preseason. I wasn't that high on him. I did his preseason outlook. Look at Rota wire. I said Pasta they own is Italian persuade men. I said this when he was like he didn't have enough. You didn't have enough stuff to and he couldn't dominate at the end is like so <hes> said he's. He's a single the material a single guy of background material unreal that his stuff simply lacks life like nothing coming into the season said he was going to be able to do this. Even in the short sample size I mean but just an extreme fly ball pitcher and right now things are going this way <hes> and to your point earlier we sixty eight the seventy games left right now depending on which team we're talking about. You're running out of runway. You've got to play the hot hand as a friend Jason Handsome and tweeted out today anything could happen over fifty plate appearances any and really can't but you just have to avoid like I said I brought the Jordan lyles one which took on the chain there. It's so hard right now though too and you do so much good work and by that I mean you just you guys in the lab. You're not doing work but you know what I mean. You're you got the team. Clicking things are going well. In one of those starts just a racist oppose the rug right out from under unit so brutal and so annoying but Punsalan is pitching well Justin you share positive outlook on about give a few numbers here thirty three percent strike rate eleven percent swinging strike Kinda helps mitigate the fact that he does walk a bit obviously babs come down as one seventy five but we're not expecting a one ninety nine point eighty. Two are a whip come with wrestling. Can he be a force four even guide. The rest of the way with strikeouts for Daniel Lonsdale is ninety. Four percent left on base percentage is GONNA come down. No it's going to go up going up on my projection. Just checking you have going down to even rejections throw. Ah Oh my God. That's embarrassing for you. Have it going down from ninety four. I mean I don't know what I was thinking. Obviously there's going to be some regression rest the way but Ponts de Leone while Oh he is stuff isn't overwhelming. He is really good at kind of limiting hard contact <hes> getting guys to pop up miss the barrel type right yeah he he's just not a guy that is necessarily easy to square where <hes> <hes> and it show it shows and his numbers and that's why we're seeing him do what he's doing legs that it's GonNa Change but he only has a ten percent line drive percentage. He gets you out on the ground or he gets you up in the air and is almost twenty percent infield five percentage <hes> fantastic easily in that's like that is kind of what he does. It was almost twenty percent in the minor leagues <hes> all throughout the minor leagues. It's been at thirty thirty seven percent twenty six percent. I mean this is what he does is. He gets you to pop up in in the Infield. He gets you on the ground. <hes> it's not necessarily going to be an overwhelming profile and you watch him pitch and you wonder how he's doing it but he does it works and so yeah. I think he's a guy that I wouldn't mind picking up being okay that he's giving me like a three six three seventy I._R._A.. Rest of the way yeah I agree three cheers for Ponts de Leone there. I let's move onto Dan Janson <hes> a guy who I broke the cardinal rule form ruined that I hold dear I don't domes- with catching prospects but I let ninety five appearances cloud that a little bit and they weren't even overwhelming but he was he was good in a sample last year. Dr Johnson was again. It was ninety five point appearances to forty seven three forty seven four thirty two this was on the heels of a strong triple eight campaign and a good three level season back in two thousand seventeen so we think he was really emerging here and I thought okay he's ready. Go and be a contributor and oh my gosh was he terrible to start the and one of the weird things is we've. We've all talked about how bad catcher is. It's actually turned out to not be bad. It's bad are the ones who have emerged like anybody that we expected outside of the the very tippy top. It's like the top four or five. They panned out then it's a dead period for fifteen and then the next fifteen which we're supposed to be like the nobody's are the ones who've come up Josh Josh Begley James McCann Roberto Perez Christian Vasquez like those are the guys going up so there has been a little bit of depth. What that's created is a position where people have cut Dany Johnson and frankly you can't blame them? Dude was toting a sub five five hundred eighty s as late as June twenty fifth like that did he delete delete breaking news course when he got Chris Taylor broken forearm. Well there goes that I was going to play. It's always plays itself out and it sucks. I'm not saying that's good that he got hurt or anything like that. I'm just saying I'm not even surprised unfortunately because polly Matt Beatty's he'll do random things because I don't. He's a tough one though he'll do that will make you want to pick them up at the time. Just won't be there if anybody was worried about their A._J.. pollock maybe not playing full time you shouldn't have been but now you really don't have to be because he's been great since he he's been excellent and as long as it's healthy healthy he's one trillion percent. GonNa play started derail from deady Jansen. I it's all right but yeah and it was interesting news there and I think Taylor is an easy cut in all formats maybe animal you hang on but other than that move on but since that June twenty twenty-fifth point for Johnson four nine four twenty nine thirty two with six of his eight homers on the season so he's really surged in tight compacted time Justin. Is this a hot streak for a guy who still gonNA have a down year or is this him certainly finally establishing himself again and starting to come together to the guy that we all. Are we being the industry. I don't know where you forget where you were on him. I we hyped then is time for the payoff here or is it just a little flash. I think it's a a little bit of both I think that <hes> it's it's obviously a flashy sitting three eighty. Two with four home runs during July so far <hes> it's obviously not going to continue yeah that that being said Ed he obviously wasn't as bad as his initial run. This season looks he starting to get more comfortable to plate. I think he's GonNa probably be like a two fifty guy. Batting average wise arrests the way which is kind of what we expected inspected. We expected him not to be a guy. Who's going to win your league but a Catcher who wasn't going to hurt you in a year with a lot of catchers at were going to hurt you now? Both of those thought processes were wrong but I think he can be a guy who's not doc in a hurt you rest the way I wanna give some real time to the to the unsung heroes portion so I'm actually going to skip a sinus when we're GONNA go each. We're GonNa talk about the just going to say I would just say real quick on Johnson. You've mentioned since June twenty fifth. Even if you taken back to Jim I still ninety seven three forty seven five eighty two of that place. I mean catchers a lot too and that's why we always that's why I don't that's why I don't take them but then I'm like Danny Janssen's the Chosen One and I I it was it was more about how ugly the rest of the position as there is between like Danny Janssen and the guy right ahead of them. There's a hundred points of A._D._p.. He was going to outperform muster. Pose you this year and my bold prediction. That's still working out. How dare you I'm not every pose he's got four and coors right now and he got off to a hot start today so we'll see maybe he's GonNa turn around but we'll go to the next one here and it'll be Jason? Only it'll be fitting. I'm going to tailor it. I'm putting eight low here. I moved up the list one spot here to make sure you got to talk about him because he's back and you know there's a lot of people that paid big for him and had to cut him because he was down for a full month and they just. They just couldn't justify hanging on is NATO here for good and obviously this is a major hot streak with five homers and like eight games but how believable is it Jason like what what can we really expect the rest of the way playing time wise and performance wise ornate low so last week said I didn't see a world where both he in and G._M.. Choi I'm GONNA sit. He stopped Choi while <hes> could could coexist on the same roster because both left these struggle the hit lefties but there's been a couple of things that change one. They're talking about giving brand low time at third base right now. He's saying ground balls today. That's neat low randolph because I think thing hurts. I was about eight low. They're talking about nate low getting okay today at third base so that to me is like we need to keep you. I think the only I came up earlier this year and he got set by down. You guys were like what the hell and I told you watching everybody the pitching staff and I believe that Game Against Baltimore to just how did him on the inside now for whatever reason this time around all Baltimore did this week as pitch him away and he kept hitting the ball away hitting it over the fence. I don't know why that League has gotten away way do it because it's not like he was adjusting to being pitched inside but they kept pitching them away and he's got really good played coverage and he's got power to all fields so if they're giving him ground balls at third base <hes> he's not in the lineup tonight against Paxton but obviously it's a a tough match-up forums <unk> when they've got they've gotten that Duffy on his way back for now until he reinjured himself because he's on the Jacoby Ellsbury plan <hes> you know so he should be back. He may be backed by the end of this week and at that point. Did you looking at roster crunch Choi. I think played won one and a half of the four-game series in Baltimore. <hes> you've got joy wonder who's just not hitting <hes> and he does have a minor league option could be sent back down that may be where they go <hes> for that because Duffy's he's got the piece of better defender can play third second short is a right handed bat. They need to come off the bench because the benches mostly <hes> lefty heavy <hes> and that may be the direction they go but I think that's what's changes. Week is <hes> ran low looks a lot the the plate and they're willing to give him some third base. Nate looks visit again all right all right. The first thing wrong cancelled. I'm GONNA keep doing that should wow wow that's that oh dude so you call Eric Swanson from Seattle Eric Hansen the Pitcher who's very similar profile. That's crazy. Yes that's a throwback name right there <hes> but I'm with you and I didn't know about that third base news and that's really intriguing because just it's more avenues to get low on the diamond is huge and he's been raking and I really think he needs to be on a roster just about every format right now until we really know where he's at because the impact could be substantial adjusting this one's for you Alex young a crafty lefty rookie rookie for the diamondbacks. Get the to start week at Texas verse Milwaukee So it's very difficult and the results are not really backed up by his metrics. What are we doing with this? I mentioned crafty which is another way of saying no velocity and it's true though I mean he throws eight hundred eighty nine from the left side. What are we doing with Alex young out in out now Arizona? Excuse me avoiding at all costs okay. That's no yeah I don't. I don't think this one particular close. I mean he's done would you yeah he's not on the backs of getting to face the giants at home and or sorry the giants on the road in the rockies at home so fencing two teams that really struggle that's perfect setup get better than that to get the best park against a crummy team team walk for nine in the minor leagues this year it's and hasn't shown the strikeout stuff in the majors in his first two starts on three appearances. This is so I'm staying away against these really really tough match ups. I know some people streamed him in N. L. But I didn't even have a bid on him in N._l.. Tout let me say this about Alex Young if he does do well on Sunday against Milwaukee it hit is going to encourage people to want to pick them up for the trip to Miami the following Saturday. That might be a worthy stream but I agree with Justin here that I would not touch after watching the ride Yarbrough and Tom Eshelman game yesterday. One Guy Threw one pitch over ninety. You guys are not on board with a guy that can't break ninety series. That was the weirdest game ever meet stanic destroyed gas and that was the last time we saw no one touched him in terms of loss. It became a different game aim was I won't rule out that that Alexan could do something of note but I'm with Justin on this week run run run run run run. There is a fourteen percent swing. You strike grade in the thirteen innings but I just I don't know I don't know how believable what he doesn't throw the fastball a lot. We can give them credit for like it's now. He's trying to lean fastball throws it. Thirty nine percent has a thirty two percent slider sixteen percent curve and thirteen percent change of so. It's a kitchen sink thing Alex young wrong again. The Best I can do is keep an eye on them and if he does something that you don't hate on Sunday and you watch them in these starts like this isn't terrible at Miami next Saturday the best I can do frowicks young. He has to do more to earn more more of our time. Let's move onto Nelson and Jason this one's yours. I liked Nelson limit in general but this year. I'm just not really interested in it. I just don't mess with guys returning from T._J.. If if they really changed my mind and there's that outlier Shir but l. miss the boat by then because I don't I don't preemptively pick them up. But how do you feel about the Nelson Lament and what he can do the rest of the way that's pretty much it for me right there. I mean let's just think back to what we've gone through with Yu Darvish still waiting for him to put together like two consecutive good outings wchs and you'd look at lead lament so far through two outings four walks three home runs that there is always the command is the last thing that comes back for these guys and he didn't have agreed to begin with. That's the the issue here I mean you may some people may go back down and look at the minor leagues and CEO While give at one point eight home runs and AAA. I it's helped Paso everybody hits a home run. El Pasa everybody even terrence Gore could go deep in El Paso but that is it's a command and I did not watch impinge but I got a lot of people tell you a little bit snow. I want these guys coming back. In season from <hes> from teaser to the commands never good enough for me to like Yep full agree all right unlikely hero time. Let's talk about these guys. Let's stay with laments teams group guys here that have really come out of the woodwork. Whether it's your mid to late rounds or waiver pickups in some leagues Hunter Renfrew was the first guy here and he's been better than I thought too so I agree with data's inclusion here he end for animal. The framework should say frame mill race have been awesome back toback Combo there when they when they're both quicken it's awesome that said they're pretty redundant and the padres probably should be open to trading one of them since they're both probably D- ages area but Justin Hunter Renfro you know he kind of plays into your thing about let me get this immense power and if I can speak a halfway decent batting average because I kind of had him down for a two and a quarter to twenty five and he's into forty I five so right now at least qualify something that's even overperforming the batting average that would give him. Is this a forty forty plus homer profile this year for one hundred pro. I think so I think I don't think that's going to be particularly close. A lot of a a lot of the projection systems have them you know between forty one and forty seven home runs. Okay get fifty. Then how about let's be a little bit more. All bets are off in September. Go Insane. How how people are barreling up the ball this year in just he has got the real manpower that plays anywhere beautiful hopes to eat when he goes up on the building the buster metal supply company building? I freaking love it. It's so great you don't even have to bear up baseballs. You'd know you'll just have hold on the home run that aged pollock it off price last night <hes> out. Did you see the one I think it was Denver's and Raphael Evers Look of it is pop up canopy corn and he his reactions like damn missed it and then they link it carries out so bad and obviously like Renfro. Here's the thing a guy like Renfro doesn't need the extra feet but now a few of his warning track shots are going out to so he's GonNa hit the majestic ones but he is also going to steal some and so he's got twenty seven already. He's been great. He's an all formats kinda guy <hes> and then a slight change in his profile to where he's being a tad bit more patient waiting for pitches on a on the plate as opposed to swing out swinging at pitches outside <hes> think it's obviously the ball I think is the biggest difference Scher but there has been tad change in the approach so I just think yeah. I think there's a real chance he could hit fifty bombs this year. Yeah I think it's very much implant doesn't even take like a ridiculous run. Jason makes a great point about September he could seriously hit fifteen of them so even if he comes in to September with thirty five and you're like. I don't think he's going to get to fifty. Don't don't don't don't get caught slippin there with renfrew. I absolutely do that. Let's remember to probably my favorite guy on this list because I I really did like Max cap where this year and I was hoping for some big things and he's really been strong. Twenty three homers already eclipsed what he did last year when he hit twenty career high and he oh my gosh she's this is what I know. I can speak for myself on this but probably the other backers of no more Missouri we're hoping for is this exact sort of thing. They have had three like league average solid seasons where you're like. That's a good player. <hes> you know he's so alert but he's not he hasn't jumped yet looking from his arte. Jump looking for Kepler well one hundred two ain't bad because Kepler has jumped and one of the big things I liked about him. This year is only really had to do is improve against righties. He actually lagged against righties last cheer and still put up the league average passable season that he had well this here is up to an eight ninety-three against them with eighteen of his twenty three homers and he's more than holding his own against lefties to seventy four three fourteen four seventy four with five homers for Max camp where. He's been really strong. Jason's Keppler somebody that you got any shares of and whether or not you did what do you think about his arrest of season outlook yeah. I have a couple of shares. This is a Guy Ian Konin. I talked about him quite a bit like he last year. He's like hey what take kepler. It's like he's got such beautiful swing. I couldn't give up on the swing and as good as long as he can. Just hold his own against left these last years W._R._C. Plus One a one this year it's one of three <hes> but he already has as many home runs against lefties this year that he did all of last this year and then the batting average is two seventy four against lefties words to forty five last year so you're seeing those gains but again it's such a beautiful swing. You knew what he could do against righties and we've seen a lot of these lefty hitting profiles before as always comes onto the same thing if they could just hold their own against lefties. That's where that's where the magic happens and we started seeing happened last year with them and like you said he underperformed against righties last year now he's performing back to his previous career levels against righties and he's maintaining net lefty. This is what's called a breakout season. You get that extra you get those extra starts against lefties which can also get you some trickle at bats against Righty relievers too because just because there's a left easterner on the mound doesn't mean he won't face any righties in the game and so the volume mm can really go out for somebody like Kepler love what he's done this year definitely believe in what he's doing to going forward another big bopper might be the cheapest of the three because the other two are always being drafted Renfro Kepler and getting drafted in every league. Maybe maybe waiver fodder for one of maybe Renfro in like attend t makes but for the most part they were going at least in reserves horry Selena was a bit more off the beaten path and he had a good start to the season last year but got hurt and it kind of derailed what looked like hey maybe it was his breakout. Now he's pasting to obliterate the casey royals homerun record. You guys know what it is. Steve Balboni thirty eight. I think he was thirty six for him and Mike Mushtaq has broke it with thirty eight seconds right seventeen seventeen so it's a pretty low number as far as like a franchise goes and solar already has twenty five. He's pacing for forty. Four Justin can Orient Solaire pop forty four homers this year and set the new record record for the K._C.. homerun record ooh that is I don't think he's going to cause you have wiggle room. You could say he's going to beat the record hit thirty nine but not get forty four where where where do you land. I guess I- Steamer Death Charts both have them hitting thirty eight for the tying and the bat has them for what forty forty forty-one Wail under they have. It's playing time way down zip stuff. Yeah I tend to lean toward steamer in depth charts and that he's probably going to miss it just barely but he's going to be on the cusp. That's going to be a little fun the thing to kind of watch you know just those little side stories at the end of the year for the teams that <hes> especially for eight dollars on my L. Tout team. I bet killing it for you because <hes> twenty five homers already. That's what you planned for for the season sit down. I think I had down projection wise as a thirteen dollar player like listener Craig one of the guys many guys. We talked about the off season. He's like being really like Korea Solaire this. You have might yes. Oh do I am sitting. He's like the last outfielders I drafted drafted my town team and I'm thinking okay now. It's time to throw him out and probably spent twelve thirteen and I got it. I was in the even channel and somebody says seven I and I said ain't nobody else spoke up. I'm like Hell yes. I was willing to go to twelve. Maybe thirteen eighteen dollars for him because at that point I was like I need another run guy. This is the guy he's GonNa play full-time d. h. and they were just GonNa let him play and he was going to beat up on as long as he wasn't facing the twins and Indians even get the beat up on the the white sox and Detroit pitching I anti to your point is chasing forty. If Detroit controlled Matt Boyd Tampa Bay any day now that would be awesome <hes> and that Detroit Tiger staff really looks bad and this is what this is what solar beat up on for a while so <hes> big year for I am here and it just this what happened when you have the skills you get the opportunity for a team that knows they're not going anywhere and just WanNa see what they have. This is what they have and they've waived Gore. They waved Hamilton. They've called up starling this where they're at absolutely agree with with that. <hes> Justin g everything else on seller before move on not really just exit velocity isn't as percents L. Hartford pursuits eighty second percentile <hes> he's in the top top five percent of the League in terms of barrel zero percentages here those hilarious powers legit shrove Shis though I think Fran Mill Raya sends them tweets like Bro your defense sucks and he's justified and nobody who says hey look at yours because it's that much worse. That's that's obviously kidding about that. They're both pretty terrible but yes alert has been awesome and he's GonNa do. I'm GonNa do this next one. It is a ray but I'm GONNA lead just in starting the Jason and add on if there's anything that Justin Mrs so it's a little test for Justin here. We've got Kevin Care Meyer. He's staying healthy right now. Knock on wood to fifty one average way up from last year ten homer seventeen steals. Are we finally getting the breakout season. Obviously you can't predict the injury Justin but are you excited about what Care Myers doing what he can finish that. If we can get a full season of playing time I mean this is huge because only five players in major league baseball have more four stolen bases and Kevin Kerr Meyer. That's insane like that again. Only five players in baseball have more stolen bases this year than Kevin Kerr Meyer when I bring on the show I don't. I don't want you to lie. Okay down the skype so this lying. Thank you doing right now. I will not tolerate it. Say only five have more than seventeen steals Monte Malik Smith Yelich Andrews and Jose Ramirez stolen bases are way down. There's only <hes> <hes> let's see there's only twenty one guys who have double digit stolen bases in the majors this year and that's only because Niko Gooderham like stole two bases yesterday to seventeen is is incredible incredible yeah so I mean the fact that he's putting up so many stolen bases this year end hitting for average and showing some pop again <hes> means that he's back to being healthy 'cause we can pretty much throughout all of last year due to health off and say that he should have been the guy that was in two thousand seventeen but I mean the fact that nobody else has really running this year. Just way inflates his value Gullo of Kevin Kerr may arrest the way especially if he can stay on the field field. I I would agree there Jason. Do you have anything to add or did <hes> just in articulated quite well there. He actually did and speaking of the year the Catcher Travis Dr no just hit a leadoff homer against James Paxton the latest like the full season numbers yet but he's the the latest just out of nowhere left for dead catcher. That's like man dodgers D._F._A._S.. I'll be good for a while. Why not the Zola's aced is still in basic is nuts but cure meyer like you know in our group text? It was like Hey J._j.. For Cure Meyer I'm like yeah go ahead and he has because he steals and he's been getting steals. He said I think ten ten stolen bases sense. That thing with Care Meyer is just he's not this no plate discipline anymore. He doesn't care jared he doesn't. He's not accepting walks. <hes> you know that's really what's down. I also still the only major league her blocks me on twitter <hes> my favorite stories. We're talking about his own. The resolution into the last couple of years has been below three hundred and then that's that that a couple years ago when he was warning more. That's what he's on base right now. He is running a lot but as a hitter. I don't see the improvements I'm always waiting for him to lay off a high fastball and I like this week at I was mad because there was opportunity. I think fam- was on base. I need stolen bases. Intel every still base is gonNA count by the end of the season fans on I two one county takes off. Cure Meyer swings at a fast ball up in a way I'm like got D stop swinging. I can't think of that betsy fouls it off <hes> and so the but no I I'm not seeing the improvements as a hitter but he is in the lineup most days volume in volume. It's really what it comes down to and he's running when he's on base when he gets on base but he's still not a good hitter <hes> and most of the time you're sitting. They keep trying to find a home for him in the lineup right now that home seems to be lower in the lineup is one of those guys who can volume is way to a successful season but we keep going for him because does if things did clinic there is that breakout potential top five round kind of capability but right now we're still in contact percentage of his career and highest zone swing percentage of his career so you know that's one of the things to you have to balance silence is like he is being aggressive and it's working to at least a degree right zone yeah which means if he's in if that's early accounts to that I'm not as worried that the walk rates now. It is a sub three three hundred V._p.. which is problematic no matter how you slice it but I think I can live with this and if you can add anything to the game it would only improve things? Just please stay. Healthy is the primary issue for him. It's a lot of four three ground balls to the right side. That's what you watching. That's where the majority of his outs are and he's hitting the ball on the ground more than ever this year. A lot of it is to the right side. Almost I'm surprised the league's not shifting more on the Infield. That's how frequently is hitting ground balls in the infield. I wonder if his speed helps prevent that as I know he'll bonner true it's really not I got Texas starter for each yard. Sorry Oh just missed a home. Run hit foul back the next Max muncie potentially. I Got Lance Lynn Jason Twenty six twenty six percent strike rate six percent with five and a half. I'll I'll I'll even do the decimal form five and a half percent walk right there for Lance Lynn Three Sixty Ninety one twenty-one whip. He's really been on fire of late. He's surviving in Texas. The real question is looking forward though how realizes how much can people rely on Lance Lynn to be one of their top three starner's the rest of the way because that's how he's played and that's how you know if you've dealt with injuries you might have to have. That kind of role where you really need performance so what have you got on landslide and the rest of the way it's real man he's been pitching like this for about a year you go back and look and next month struck out you go back and look to last year. Once he left Minnesota he came to the GEICO nate. Put them under the bullpen. This stuff started rolling and he is just really picked up relaxed off and you watch him pitch. I watched that game you can choose on Thursday night. He was just shoving and he's working on his fastball extensively easily. The biggest fastball usage rate is a top five in the league and then he throws a cutter that just goes. It looks like a hybrid it goes all the way across the plate. The way uses it and this is one of the guys I I said he was going to be a top. This bold prediction prediction was he was going to be a top one hundred starting pitcher and that was my bold prediction and it's bad. He wasn't the one hundred seventy second on A._D._p.. Less for starting pitchers not just pitcher starting pitchers back then stood out is boiled and now it sounds sound silly but yeah that was bowled for landslide say you'd be a top hundred pitcher and now he's angling for like a top thirty the way I wanted it for Tampa Bay as a as a pitcher when he went three thirty. I'm like Oh my God. That's what you can't afford them. They signed Morton for two thirty. Okay in trade. I really wanted Lance. Lynn coming out of the year because I just thought it looked when you watch go back and watch how he pitched there in New York with nobody was watching he got dominant towards the end and that's that was the I really wanted a shot at that and it didn't happen. I don't want to sell them short. He's been thirteenth on the player Raider <hes> directly behind this next Guy Justin it's Mike Minor who's been awesome and to Jason's point about what he said about Lance. Lynn Mike Minor's been good for about the same amount of time. He really got going in the second half of last year. I remember when I talked about him. In the winter saying Yo what can we can we build on this and he had that big two thousand seventeen season out of the bullpen. We've seen Mike minor be good. This one isn't even as much of a stretch as somebody like Lynn but health health has always eluded him to staying healthy again for the second season in a row to seventy three era one sixteen wimp just under a strikeout per any one twenty one in one hundred and twenty two innings. How viable is Mike minor the rest of the way last time we talked on him I it was really stoked on him because I felt like he'd already put in this really good work and he was more than likely going to be traded out of Texas? Yes in the heat of the summer some out passes. It has been even better than I thought I thought pretty good this year you like the lineup from Jump Street and they've got to I mean this listen. We talk about the pitching landscape. It's not just for fantasy real teams deal with it so they have the two guys like this. At the front of your rotation jokes we made about their rotation and the year you could do the congressman or Texas starter game with them like it was these clowns like the pitching was off. They have two studs kids that go every fifth day now right now and so he's not GonNa get traded now. Does that cloud what you think or is it still like okay. It's going to go up a little bit. Maybe because of a few extra homers but you're still like Mike Minor. I think that's exactly what it is. Obviously things we're going to regress because a- as things heat up in Texas the ball will fly out in a fly ball in homer <hes> kind of era that we're in right now with these Jews balls. He's done a really good job at limiting the long ball I think that's probably going to come back to Earth a little bit more and we're looking at a guy who's probably closer to a four yaar a rest away but considering what you paid for him coming into the season <hes> you've already made a profit on it so if it starts to go oh haywire you can you can draw up you. Can you know just kind of spot stardom knowing that already made the profit on them. If minor hits a skid you can start to play a little bit more judiciously you don't you don't put them up traded that. How is he not going to that? That's kind of the issue. I'm struggling with the Texas. It's like there to the problem is Ryan Middle Wildcard rights they're going to they're not I don't think they're going to do you're right though you're right because he's walking after this this year and so you're not going to give him. I don't see them giving a qualifying offer I wouldn't I don't call qualify million. He's only thirty one. What are they gonNA have to play to put someone in there for two or three years? Plus is still paying. Such plus dividends even next year ten Mil you understand that I mean you guys understand this but for those that don't understand he could put up one hundred seventy innings of five fifty era lance. Lynn couldn't be worth ten mill so he's surplus value out the I think they could all off from a call back. I'm wrong. I'm wrong deal. He's got a he's guaranteed through next year. They'll hang onto them. I think they'll just I don't know that they'll add except for maybe like real small periphery pieces that cost them nothing but I think they're going to ride this out and see what they can do. They they desperately need pitching though they need to find the scrap heap they need to get this year's version of Mike fires when he left Detroit and be sustained with the Oakland when as they need to find a guy like that if they wanNA contend but I like both these Texas guys they've been great and just to kind of give into perspective about what their aggression could be. You mentioned that he could go to like upper threes. Maybe a four on the Button Lance Lynn with that three sixty nine e._R._A.. In One twenty-one Twenty one win which is higher than the two seventy one one sixteen of minor is one slot behind him and they both have one hundred twenty two innings so it's pretty comparable. Lynn does have thirteen more strikeouts in four more wins but I think the bottom line is that even if minor regresses S.'s he doesn't necessarily regress out of the top thirty top thirty five which is still playing across. I think he's still top forties starting Pitcher S._O.. I all right a closer Preecha Jason. I'll start with US twenty two saves for Shane Grain. Nobody could have projected that. I think a lot of folks for drafting Joe Him before him even just thinking that green wouldn't even last with the job. I'm less concerned about what he's done and what he's going to do going forward. Do you think Shane Green could get traded to somewhere where he closes because the numbers are good. The only downside is the homers are a little bit of a problem now. It's only four homers but when it's over four innings it's a bit of a home run problem. One point one per nine. You don't want that as a closer but Ken Shane Green go somewhere where he stays as a closer and continues to provide fantasy value <hes> uh-huh no no I mean I'm worrying right now. There's only so many places he could go. <hes> you know maybe a lot here does twins well if if he comes the Tampa Bay then possibly you know it depends on the match ups. Is it okay. Is it men on base we want Diego Castio and his ground balls if we watching green so is there a path for him become a fulltime closer on a contender. I say no unless it's <hes> even if he were to go to Minnesota even if he were to Boston's trying to stay in the Wildcard Hunt Anna Atlanta's an interesting name. How dare you with Lou Jackson you but that's kind of where I think for you? Personally personally pulled this best case scenario that he became something. This year is going to bring something of value back to your team that you sort of have notable prospect if not like to you know halfway nothing crazy. It's not going to be some mm-hmm. GLEYBER torres deal don't judge everything through the prism of the Chapman deal but yeah they're going to get something legitimate form I think and Atlanta's decent avenue where he could still continue to close Shangri. He's been good plain and simple. You did mention Minnesota where this other guys really kind of assumed the role it's actually Taylor Rogers and we've seemed to have like seen so many names trevor may was the favourite of this show we were trying to will him into the role even though he never really got it and then it was pretty clear early on the dude they didn't want him for the role yeah for some reason they have a Muslim must hate is twitch stream. They hate him with a like intensity shots and they went blake parker out and he was performing well and then guess what he throws guys is he throws a splinter and so how many has he allowed this year seven in thirty two innings and I'm not saying they're all off the splitter but again. It's just such a home run prone pitch so now it's been the lefty Taylor Rogers who's got thirteen saves and he has the job I don't. I don't know that they would pull him out if they if they acquire somebody but I would lean toward thinking so because he's the only lefty right now too so justin is that your read on it as well as that Rogers's days as a closer are limited because almost certain to go. We'll get somebody because that's the easiest avenue for upgrade for this contending twins team you know I don't know that they are I mean they obviously should definitely look at it. I think they may be more focused on getting started. They had a shot shot at Kimbrel. Were they give up any prospects money. I mean I know it's just money but that in the grand scheme of baseball when you're talking about assets money's the easiest thing to give up so I mean I didn't Rogers has he's been in filthy. I mean he's been so good. It's really impressive to watch so I don't know that even if they bring someone in it may just be to share the role so or if they bring a supplemental lefties they have one in the bridge and let Rogers keep the role because that yeah that's the only thing I could see and he's had no platoon split five eighty eight Oh p._S.. Against righties five sixty one against lefties smothering both sides. He's been awesome. You've instilled a little bit of offense in me that <hes> that he's not necessarily going to be traded or have a trade displace Taylor Rogers. I think you can hang onto that job and we know that Parker neither parker nor may is really knocking on the door of it so as far as internally I think he's protected and then the right move for them to just get a lefty. Don't don't disrupt what Rogers is doing and then put that lefty in the middle relief say you have somebody to go with Parker May Ryan Harper and a couple of other guys but but somebody from the left side all right I think that's going to wrap it up. Guys great to finally have the the whole crew back in back Intel here. What are you guys up to this Sunday <hes>? I don't even know what Sunday is anymore yeah. I think I'm available available to okay. We might have another trio working so we'll be in touch for that but guys great talking with you and I hope you'll have a great week y'all to take it easy <music>.

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 265: Lou Brock Condolences, Labor Day Update

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 265: Lou Brock Condolences, Labor Day Update

"The. Golden State, the concepts baseball podcasts we cover everything majorly from spring training. Series with got your favorite club cover from New, York to Boston to La, this is the golden state media concepts baseball podcast. Hello, and welcome in to another edition of the GS. MCC. Baseball podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network I'm your host them all Iq today is Monday September seventh, and this is episode number two, Fifty, five of the baseball podcast. I appreciate you guys listening here on Labor Day it's a beautiful Monday. Hopefully, you guys are enjoying the weather where you're at out there I know I'll. Be Golfing at some point today whenever it is you're listening to this if it's Monday morning right after its release or Monday afternoon I'll be out there on the golf course myself enjoying around with my old man half they're having some fun with some friends out there on. Sunday. So with that being said, I am up at my parents house here currently. So this is road game for the. MCC baseball podcast here tonight with the holiday coming up I was able to do some traveling, play some golf crashed my parents house and I still wanted to bring you guys in episode still wanted to discuss Major League baseball and everything that took place over the weekend and didn't want to skip an episode. So I do apologize if there's some ruffling with the microphone some in and out in regards to the audio. Again, I'm not in the Home Studio I'm holding the Mike with my hand here old school style interview style. I don't have the headset or the Mike Stand. That's typically rock and in the studio but I think we got everything lined up here I. Think we got everything set. We are ready to go. We are ready to have a great episode and a great show for you guys here tonight. So jumping right into it Labor Day, what is Labor Day what does it mean I mean Labor Day is one of the six federal holidays. So I know I'm enjoying my time off from work I. Hope You guys are out there as well if you do still have to work today unfortunately. For you but we do appreciate whatever it is. You're doing to help the rest of us out and humanity whether it's nurses, firefighters, police, fighters, all the all those guys who have to work here on Monday as again I'll be enjoying my time at the link so I do. Thank you. For your commitment and services but Labor Day here celebrated the first Monday in September to honor and recognize the American labor movement and the works and contributions of laborers in the development and achievements of the United States. So a long winded answer to basically say, Hey, we thank you guys and you're allowed to have a day off for no reason because you're working the rest of the days. So go ahead celebrate yourselves have some fun. Take a day off do your thing. and. Then we'll see you right back here on Tuesday but labor. Day because it's a floating date and it's the first Monday in. September. Not You know September fourth set as Christmas. Twenty fifth whichever day the week, it may be Labor Day always lands on that Monday, and because of that I was trying to look into the history of baseball and have any key historical. Games or situations no hitters perfect games four home runs any of that type of stuff as it ever taken place on labor. Day and you can't get a lot of Intel on that on the Internet I mean, you can do it by date like I could tell you what's happened on. September seventh in years past things like big Mac mark mcgwire hit and his sixty first tie in Mary's son his dad's birthday and. The WHO who had their longest losing streak in the pirates they had their fourteen th straight year of losing season, which was a major league baseball record. So there were a few of these that I was diving into but none of them were directly related to Labor Day which I found was unfortunate I can't believe there's not a sight out there or anybody who's kind of keeping track of hey here, your best Labor Day performers because we all know there is baseball on Labor Day. There's a ton of afternoon Games today here on Monday as you listening to this podcast so. That's something I wanted to dive into unfortunately I didn't really manifest itself so. Kinda getting into the news and notes of this week and Major League baseball unfortunately guys I feel like the bearer of bad news this week man almost like the grim reaper out here because. Last time I talked to you guys Tom. SEAVER had unfortunately passed away, and here we are again Sunday night me recording this episode and find out that Lou Brock passed away here at the age of eighty one and once again being a thirty one year old individual here. I. Didn't know a ton about Lou Brock I. Mean I'm going to be honest with you. I had to do some research to find out. You know kind of what this guy was all about was he really that? Good. What did he stand for? Where did he play and come to find out first ballot hall of Famer guys got it pretty much squared away. That's for sure. I was a left fielder for the St Louis Cardinals. He was traded over from the Chicago cubs after his third season at the age of twenty four and nineteen, sixty three, which as you Google and do some research here into Lou Bracha a lot of people like to bring up maybe the most lopsided trade in in major league. Baseball history with some of the feedback that took place and you know Lou Brock turning out to be a first ballot hall of Famer and what back to Chicago not great at all. So let's look at some Allu- stats right off the top of the bat some career statistics when Lou retired, he was the all time leader in steals at nine, hundred, thirty, eight he also had two single season record at one, hundred, eighteen he said this in nineteen, seventy, four and one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy. Four may have been lose best individual season he finished second in the MVP voting this year or that year and nineteen, seventy four he was an all star as well. Stole One, hundred, eighteen bases and one hundred and fifty three games. He was also caught stealing thirty three times that year. So adding. Thirty, three, two, one, eighteen, what are we looking at here? One fifty one so he had one hundred, fifty, one attempts in one hundred and fifty three games and was successful basically three quarters of. The time for one hundred, eighteen steals, which again was a single season record at that point, and you know even Lou up until that point the year before in nineteen seventy-three stole seventy bags and got caught stealing twenty times. So I don't know who had a conversation with him between one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, three in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, four but essentially sat down and said, Hey, listen if you get on base, we're going to need you to run. We're going to need you to. Put some pressure on the defense. We're GONNA need any walk to basically double to you, and that was the case because he had sixty three walks that year or sixty one walks looks like here in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, four, and I'm sure a lot of those turned into a stolen base which meant a walk was a double when you were facing Lou Brock in the Saint Louis Cardinals. In the mid seventies just kinda fascinating as you continue to dive in leftfielder out their career war or wins above replacement was forty, five point four obviously again, this lens him to be a first ballot hall of Famer, he had over three thousand hits for his career. Of course that is kind of the the golden goose number when it comes to hits offensively he had three thousand and twenty three. He had a career batting average of two, ninety, three, hundred and forty nine career home runs nine hundred RBI. Dot GotTa fascinating that Javer Round Number like Dad RBI's at nine hundred but that's a heck of a year as well. So let's look into some of his long ball here. He really wasn't a power guy look at some of his Best Years Nineteen Sixty seven twenty one home runs seventy six rb is that was a career high in RBI's as well. Next was nineteen, sixty, five, he had sixteen home runs and sixty nine rb is both career second bests, and then when it came to home runs sixty, six, he hit fifteen and nine, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, four at fourteen. Thousand Nine hundred, seventy, he had thirteen and in sixty nine and sixty, four, hundred, twelve. So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, double digit home run seasons out of nineteen total years. So like I said, my man was not known for the long ball and actually had a few years where he had more triples than home runs and especially later in his career that was almost the case more often than not. But a career high of fourteen triples and nineteen sixty eight followed up twelve. The previous year in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, seven, which is also a heck of a year with twelve triples. He had twelve and sixty six MANSO late sixties this guy was a triples machine sixty, three, he had eleven sixty, four, eleven, sixty, six, twelve, sixty, seven, twelve, sixty, eight, fourteen, sixty, nine, ten. So the entire decade of the sixties, this man was just busted out triples in most fascinating way and then double sixty, eight, forty, six, thirty, seven, thirty, five, thirty, three. So this man was a gap the gap machine twenty plus doubles in fifteen out of nineteen years or fourteen out of nineteen years. Double digit triples like we said, five six years home runs is stolen bases just kinda fascinating to see how the game has evolved because there are people are guys that don't even attempt to steal hundred eighteen basis anymore year let alone be successful with that many steals. It's just it's a totally different ballgame and twenty twenty. The stolen base has left Major League Baseball. It's just it's not part of kind of the game plan anymore, and that's why guys in Philadelphia such as Roman Quinn are Kinda. So fascinating and so electric managers because when you hit ground balls and you'd be balls out for base hits I mean think about what Byron Buxton did this weekend to win a ball game in Minnesota was their game against Chicago on Saturday nights aware bases loaded or second and third bottom of the ninth extra innings. He hits kind of a slow roller to the shortstop beats it out to first base as a base it when the ballgame go home and you didn't even have to put a good swing on the baseball just because if your God given ability and talent to fly down the base path so. Seeing this kind of action and the art of base running has certainly left baseball. I mean that was something that I was always good at even though I was not the fastest individual I mean I'll talk to you guys I was the cleanup hitter right I was a doubles guy stand up doubles by no means in my trying to get a slide in triple right I'd rather take it easy pulling the second extra base hits home runs doubles in, but my senior year I was nine for eleven on stolen basis because I understood the game I understood the situation. I. Understood the pitch that was typically coming in. A certain location in a certain count in you can be a really good runner without being extremely fast. You need to know your angles, your first two thirds, your second to homes if you can tell whether or not a ball off the bat is GonNa. Get down or it's going to be caught right away could be the difference between whether you're fast instill at third base because you hesitated. So long or your slope and you took off right away because you knew it was going to land in front of the center fielder. It's truly a lost art in the sport of baseball within the game today because the. outs, home run kind of style offensively doesn't lend to a lot of hit and runs a lot of balls in the gaps scorn from first base. A lot of you know kind of inbetween fly balls when you're trying to score from second on a single. So the speedster gentlemen such as Lou. Brock coup, ultimately, our first ballot, all of famers six time all star two time world series champion in. Know. Kind of a dying breed in major league baseball. So Shoutout thoughts and prayers go out to Lou Brock's friends and family. Of course, we never WANNA lose a an individual but certainly, not somebody who has important to the game of baseball as Lou Brock finds himself here in in twenty twenty especially being of African American descent with everything that's going on in the world. It's just a nice reminder following Jackie Robinson Day, and everything that's been happening to just. Kind of celebrate the achievements and accomplishments of these individuals that certainly had the face much harder roads than you or I did or at least I did I certainly don't want to speak for you. But at least I did growing up so condolences to the brock family rest in peace. Lou Brock. But I certainly wanted to discuss a little bit more about his career and his detail moving forward so. Continuing around Major League. Baseball News and notes I did want to bring up a couple of different points here. Wrapping up the first segment Major League baseball is going to allow Puerto Rican players to wear the number twenty, one on Roberto Clemente Day, which is Wednesday September ninth. So you guys again listening to this here on Monday the seventh if you're listening on the day of release if not, you could be listening to it here on. Wednesday the ninth well then today is Roberto Clemente Day but I applaud Major League Baseball for this decision allowing the guys from Puerto Rico to wear the number who are some of those guys who are available to do this I just want to read some of the larger names of course Havi air bias from the cubs Jose Burrito of the twins Eddie Rosario of the twins as well Yada Air. Molina from the cardinals Martin Maldonado. Where he is I think he's still in Houston, off the top of my head here Francisco Lynn Door of the Indians, of course, Edwin, the of the mets and many many more names here Carlos Correa of the Astros. So all of those guys I just spoke about will be eligible to wear twenty one on the ninth and I would assume that you know four out of five eighty percent of them would take advantage of this situation to honor Roberto, Clemente and everything he meant for Major League. Baseball. And the Pittsburgh pirates and everything that's been happening in you know Kinda recently here once again in society, this is just another way to kind of recognize the excellence of the individuals who. Paved the way before the current class of Major Leaguer San. Then lastly here, the last point I'll make before we wrap up this first segment was a Joe West found himself in the news once again because he jetted nationals. Mike Rizzo from the third deck in a game on. Sunday. So Joe was up firing first base somebody else was behind the dish I don't know who the individual was, but apparently, Mike Rizzo didn't like the balls and strikes calls coming out from the game because he was up there in the third deck hoot and Holler and with everything going on and then. Eventually. Joe West. Random. OUTTA here he had to call security to go up to get Rizzo because rezoning if he was pointing at me and it, it's an MD stadium and we're throwing general managers in the third deck from the field. So Joe. West just another lovely lovely situation that can only make you chuckle because there's really nothing else you could do anymore with. With Joe so but that'll wrap things up here for the first segment of the. MCC baseball podcast brought to you by the MC gas network. I'm your host Hollick. What we'll do now is we'll continue our trek around major league baseball as we usually do on Sunday nights starting now with the American League and National League, let's see where everybody's that get some updates on the play offs and we'll touch base kind of what's going on. So we'll pause now for word from one of our sponsors one of our sisters shows when we come back, we'll have some fun. So stick around everybody I'm your host them all like we'll be right back. This is your alternate stop for everything sports the Golden State media concepts, sports, podcast should I say more from the NFL beat the NBA 'em it's all in here Golden State Bedia concepts sports. podcast listen. stood. Automatic to the GSM see baseball podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network I appreciate you guys listening in today is Monday, September seventh, and this is episode number two, sixty, five of the baseball podcast here on Labor Day? Twenty twenty the unofficial end this summer national football league is back next weekend even this Thursday and a couple of days we got game action for you guys coming on, which means we're coming down the stretch in major. League baseball I mean Labor. Day is kind of the unofficial last major marking poll in regards to Hey, where's my club at? Do here down the stretch. But now it is Canada halfway poll I mean look at it almost as July fourth to where we're at today but things are getting late here quick in regards to Major League Baseball as we are only three four weeks, not even from the end of the twenty twenty season and it's going to be gone in the blink of an eye just like that I mean we are up to over forty games played. Already for some teams, the Tampa Bay. Rays at twenty, eight and thirteen you're looking in one, thousand, nine games. You're looking at three weeks coming down the stretch for Tampa Bay that's where we're GONNA start. By the way we're going to start out do each division I like we typically do here on Sundays starting out in the east then the central, then the west kind of touching on where we're at for postseason play. Where we see things moving here. Going forward and started out in the American League East at the top the Tampa Bay rays continue to be extremely impressive. They've eight and two in their last ten, twenty, eight and thirteen overall that puts their playoff percentages at one hundred percent. So I don't know if they've mathematically clinched here, but it certainly seems that even if they were to lose the rest of their games at twenty, eight and thirty two, that's still may be a playoff team in the American. League with where we're looking at the standings but Tampa Bay still being led. Offensively by D. as he's hitting three Oh seven at third base, he's been excellent thus far you have low offensively leading them in home runs That's been the key one as well. Willie. Adams. Sitting three Oh two but brandon low his average all the way down to forty eight does have ten home runs and twenty eight rb is but I don't think that to forty eight average is going to be high enough to win the American League Mvp Award and we had him as the favourite on Wednesday night's episode Thursday's episode for you guys so. Those odds will probably change again this Wednesday I'll be interested in checking in again with you guys to see where we could win some cash but to forty eight for brandon low is not going to get it done. Next up on the pitching side of things tyler glass. Now he has a four, three, five era. He's been a bit disappointing as well as Blake Snell as been disappointing for these guys. He has three, seven, four era. Now you're thinking that's probably not too high, but for Blake's now and the expectations, he took another l. this past week in his last time out it's certainly not to the performance level that he's looking for in this year I mean three and one is good but again, he has high expectations three. Point seven, four era he himself would tell you that's not where he wants to be Ryan. Yarborough at three, six five has been solid for his expectations. Charlie Morton trying to find his groove work his way back. He's got a four eight, two era that curve curveball did look much better last time out that it did earlier in the year though that's for sure the surprise in the American League East? Though is certainly the second place team I mean you have the Toronto Blue Jays who have overtaken the new. York Yankees first second place and how has Toronto been able to do it? Well, let's look at their schedule just a little bit here. I mean things are going to get a little more interesting moving forward but the past couple of weeks facing the Red Sox, the Orioles, the Marlins, and the Red Sox who are not the most strong team I mean the Red Sox may be the worst team in all of baseball. The Orioles before the season were picked to be one of the worst teams in all of. Baseball same with the MARLINS yeah. The Orioles and Marlins haven't been playing that bad this year but they're also now world-beater. So things will pick up here for Toronto, over the next couple of weeks and we're GONNA find out now between the end of the year if they really are ready for prime time and they're a year ahead of plan and their a team that we need to be worried about because they get the Yankees for three. Then the mets for three the Yankees for three phillies for four Yankees for four. Then they finished with Baltimore. So Up until September twenty, four th here. So the next eighteen days for the Toronto Blue Jays are not the most advantageous when you're looking on paper in regards to these guys having a successful couple of weeks here. So the New York Yankees, they're open, the opposite can be true. I mean, they were stymied by Kramer and his Major League debut for the Orioles. He won five to one and they lost three of four to Baltimore. They are to in six in their last eight games after sweeping the new. York mets. So things have gone south quick in new. York as they continue to stumble in there all the way down to twenty one and nineteen now does this mean they're in jeopardy of missing the playoffs now it doesn't because they have a ninety two percent chance and even being over five hundred is certainly putting in the eighth spot. In regards to the playoffs in the American league but it's also now where the the Yankees wanted to be aware expectations are in New York. So there are a few issues when it comes to Yankees, fans out there I mean dj who he's been a bit cooler since his return from the injured list, he's hitting three sixty three. Let's see here, Aaron judge continuing to try to make his way back. He's only played eighteen games. Luke voight has has been fantastic for them. He's continuing to hit the ball well is average is down two to sixty nine, but thirteen home runs twenty eight rb is a fantastic year offensively when it comes to the power number's Aaron Hicks struggling offensively hitting two. Oh, six, only three home runs for them Gary. Sanchez continues to struggle hitting a buck thirty. This year I mean I don't know if the guy's going to be able to pick it up I. THINK HE may run out of days in regards to be able to turn it around he's played in thirty two total games one hundred at bats only has thirteen hits but seven of the thirteen hits have gone home runs I mean does this guy not know? How to hit a ground ball between the whole and first and second like why are we trying to launch everything where seven? These thirteen? Hits home runs maybe we should short up and punch when through the right side I mean sometimes I think outsmart myself and saying things like that. But I mean Gary you're hitting a buck thirty, thirty, two games into the year here shouldn't we kinda just choked up try to hit a ground ball up the middle maybe make adjustment now that it's been four or five weeks. Yankees fans are hoping down the stretch he certainly comes around but he hasn't shown you anything that makes you think he's going to be able to do that. And then on the pitching side of things for the Yankees Garrett Cole, he's a cold streak here I mean he's lost his last three starts. He's four and three on the year and fifty two innings as a three, six three era. Now, none of those numbers off disappointments but certainly coming off the year he had last year and with ambitions of winning the Cy Young, I don't see him kind of near the top of the list and I really haven't heard his name in that conversation and a ton of detail he's given up thirteen home runs. which is the most in major league baseball almost triple the next number here on the staff with Tanaka given up five. So the long balls getting Garrett Cole, the interesting part is it's not only happening at home, but it's happening on the road as well. So it's not just the friendly confines for hitters in Yankee Stadium there seems to be something to them kind of picking up on that fastball that Cole loves to road up in the zone being able to catch up and drive it out of the ballpark and fourth place in the New York. Fourth Place in the American League East You have the Baltimore Orioles in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty, one, they've been playing pretty good baseball five and two in their last seven after taking three or four from the Yankees like I said next up, they got the New York mets then the Yankees then braves in Tampa then Boston. Sell. Baltimore scheduled really picks up here. I certainly think they're going to continue to fade although things have been a lot of fun this far, and then offensively they're still getting contributions from Jose glazed shortstop is having a nice year hands Arou-. Burtel at second base is still hitting three eighteen severino behind the dish is hitting three fifteen. Those guys continue to be fun to watch but just the age and the pitching staff has let them down and they did move on from guys at the trade deadline. So continuing to look to the future in Baltimore which I think is the right move. But I think they're finding that they may have more talent on that roster already than they previously thought. The Boston Red Sox said the worst team in the big leagues they have lost one, two, three, four, five, six of eight. To, the braves and Blue Jays, things don't get much easier for them in the American League east of course, with New York Tampa Baltimore coming up. SPRINKLE IN ATLANTA. But let's see anybody for them having A. Year off festively before we transition over to the National League East and with the amount of games played let's go to Alex for go hitting three eleven out in Centerfield. So he has certainly been a positive for them Zander BOGART's to eighty one ten home runs twenty six rb is he's been fantastic at shortstop as well but. The American League East this surprise certainly the Blue Jays in second place over the New York Yankees about the orioles and red sox kind of finding themselves in the basement. Really isn't you know any crazy update? So looking at the National League since we talked last week the Atlanta braves are still in first place at twenty four and sixteen, there six four. In the last ten as well as let's see six to in their last eight. So they're playing good baseball here moving forward next up on the schedule, they have the Marlins than nationals in Baltimore than. New York. So their schedule continues to be a bit on the easier side which certainly I think lens them to be the favorite in the American League East. The, favorite in the National League east with really not a ton of challengers outside of Philadelphia and I don't even think Philadelphia's challenging them. But offensively, the Braves Marcello Hidden Three Twenty Travis Dr Known Hitting Three Twenty Freddy Freeman. All the way up to three fourteen seven home runs. Zunyi has thirteen home runs a now on the year so he's been great for them offensively. But let's talk now about the Philadelphia phillies nineteen and seventeen, they've been playing good baseball seven and three. In their last ten they have dumped two in a row to the New York mets. But before that they had one nine of ten their schedule gets a bit tricky here coming up because after two games or they have one more New York here and then to verse Boston but then seven Games in five days against the Miami Marlins. So when I talk to you guys on Thursday that'll be the beginning of that seven game series, which certainly could be make or break their and. I mean if that's it, that's that could be the playoffs if you're going with the MARLINS and you lose in five of seven, you're gonNA find yourself on the wrong in their here, very very quickly. But looking at some stats offensively Bryce Harper, he has cooled off but certainly stabilized himself hitting two seventy five. Only seven home runs twenty one rb is but his approach at the plate has been much better. Overall. I mean he's got thirty walks twenty seven strike outs. So more walks than strikeouts, which is fascinating because his strikeout numbers had continued decline year after year after year almost to the point where it was becoming an issue and I, it's certainly something he focused on this off season and has really cut down each changes stance with two strikes gets wider chokes up, tries to put the ball in play, and the is still got enough bath speed enough power to lift the ball to the ballpark and even with. The less whip and leverage that he likes to generate with a vicious swing. So certainly, not a disappointment in year to year one was right at expectations. So bryce Harper, very good for the Philadelphia phillies thus far JD's bad has cooled off. He's down to sixty still has nine home runs twenty, six RBI's but it's the depth of this vilis lineup that makes them very good I mean when you look at our be is having four guys five guys above twenty reese hoskins. Now at twenty, Rbi's Andrew mccutchen as twenty four, jt twenty-six dd Gregorious twenty-one Bryce Harper Twenty, one I mean that's up and down the line that's balanced. Seven home runs nine home runs five home runs eight home runs five home runs six home runs. Sad. These guys are just not an easy out up and down the lineup and that's what frustrates opposing pitchers because you want to exhale and you want an easy out and these bills just don't give it to you next. Up in the division, we have the seventeen and eighteen Miami marlins phillies at nineteen and seventeen or a game and a half ahead of them for a second place in playoff positioning Miami here let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, three, and seven in their last ten as again. The rest of baseball has started to catch up with the MARLINS. They've been out play and their talent, but are they haven't? Lena then the Phillies Boston Washington and Elena again so A. Bunch of games left with the braves as opposed to the phillies who finished up with them last weekend. That's Kinda something Nice to look at their obviously the first place team. So you would think the marlins would have some trouble with them as a phillies fan and you're you're feeling good about being in second place. But offensively for the MARLINS, they continue to be led by the likes of Matt Joyce Hidden to seventy. Eight and twenty seven games she got hey zeus. Hidden. To seventy one, Jonathan Villar hidden to fifty nine. So good depth than some guys over achieving they're for. Marlins, ballclub that is fun to watch I will give him that six though Sanchez Bien called up he was obviously the key piece in the JT Rio Mutoko trade with phillies he's got electric stuff triple digits sits it's fun to watch him pitch. So young electric arms in Miami where the future could be a lot of fun for Marlins fans but. Fourth place here we got the New York mets and nineteen and twenty two. They have won four of five after a five game losing streak. So they have bounced back kind of stabilized the ship here they have one more against the phillies coming up, and then after that, they'll head to Baltimore and Toronto back to Philadelphia. So their schedule is a bit lighter here on the tail end as well. But DOES FINISH WITH ATLANTA TAMPA and Washington coming down the stretch, but it's the offense that's. Trying to get things going I, mean they got the likes of Michael Conforto hitting the cover off the ball hitting three forty two in forty one games so far this year Robinson Cano still hitting three thirty three Dominic Smith hitting three twenty seven Jeff McNeil to ninety one and then on the pitching side of things outside of Dot Com who won again today on Sunday over the phillies in his three and one with A. One six, nine ers array and an even smaller point eight, eight whip, which is fascinating. So anytime outside of him though it's tough to find W if you're the mets poor Selo spent a letdown. Matt's has been a letdown. It's just been struggling to find pitching for New York, and then in last place you've got the Washington nationals at fourteen and twenty five coming off their World Series Championship one, two, three, four, five, six. Seven eight game losing streak and have since one two out of three verse, Elena. But things are turning around and Washington anytime soon, you got Tampa Atlanta coming up then Tampa it's GonNa be a long summer enjoy your party and enjoy your parade from last year your piece of metal trophy as rob Manfred likes to call it and enjoy just watching one soda every day because this guy's video game, he said in three. Fifty four eleven home runs twenty, six rb is only twenty seven games I mean over the course of one, hundred and sixty two this guy would just be absolutely electric to watch but that wraps it up for our East division talk once again, the Tampa Bay rays clearly the winners in the American League? East right now starting to pull away from the Blue Jays and Yankees, and then the braves three games up on the phillies. A much greater advantage than net. So we'll pause right now for a word from one of our sponsors, one of our sisters shows. But when we come back, we'll dive into both central divisions stick around everybody I'm your host Ken Mall we'll be right back. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here. Less than a podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast coverage. 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Leave us a review rate is five stars we appreciate it certainly helps us continue to spread the word continue to grow here at the US, embassy podcast network but let's jump right in here segment number three we are looking at the central divisions across Major, League baseball starting. Now with the American league central the Chicago. White. SOX are tied with the Cleveland. Indians are no they're not. They're a half game up I miss read the standing. So your first place Chicago White Sox at twenty, six and fifteen I mean my surprise team in the American League for those of you guys listen back during the pandemic, the month of March the month of April I was all over Chicago team. I loved what they did in the off season and they've won Let's see here six of eight over the past week and looking at their schedule moving forward they do run into some difficult games here down the stretch specifically the closing stretch I mean next up at Pittsburgh in Detroit. Those should be a pretty good victories there but then four with Minnesota Three Cincinnati four with Cleveland three with the Chicago cubs is a nice closing two weeks there and really should we should find out who wins the division between them and Minnesota during that key stretch. But looking at the White Sox, they're having a couple of MVP candidates I. Mean we touched on last episode about Jose Braves odds continuing to climb after his record setting homerun weekend. But he is all the way up to hit and three fifteen now with thirteen home runs and forty RBI's in forty one games played. It's amazing that we've already played forty one games two thirds of the way through the Season Ladies and gentlemen you guys just started listening and here we are two thirds of the way through. That's why we play one hundred and sixty two because it goes. So Gosh, darn quick but Tim. Anderson at shortstop in thirty one games hitting three fifty one with seven home runs Eloy Jimenez Eleven home runs hitting to eighty one the weeks Robert out in Centerfield his average has come down. The power numbers are still there with eleven home runs and twenty seven harvey is but the to sixty six average is much lower than it was earlier in the year but this offense, in Chicago, a ton of fun to watch. The pitching staff has kind of come around and caught up to it I. mean nobody's really talking about it right now but Dallas Kaikal has been fantastic for the Chicago White Sox a two one nine. Fifty three innings this was a guy who two years ago couldn't get a contract couldn't find himself deal. Wanted big time money coming off his time with the Astros former CY young award Atlanta gives them approve it deal. He finds himself having a good solid second half of the season. Last year parlays that into a nice deal with the white sox and all he's done out is gone to one nine era in fifty three innings to go six into well, not to be outdone Lucas. G Alito. For and two with a three to ninety. Ra Dylan see sin forty aims five and two with a three to ninety. Are I mean those three at the top of the rotation there is good as. Most across Major League Baseball. Of course, you could find one, two, three, four. Are Better but this is clearly a playoff rotation. This is clearly a playoff offense and this is just I mean this team is a complete team. I. Look Forward to watching them continue to grow and continue to have playoff success this year. Now thought they were tied, but the Indians are a half game back of the white sox. And good baseball after winning four or five. They are also seven and three in their last ten. Coming up down the stretch here their schedule plays out a bit lighter with Kansas City, Detroit and Pittsburgh on their mixed in however with Minnesota, and the cubbies. So there are about fifty fifty coming down the stretch I do favor the Indians over the white SOx schedule if we're picking apples to apples here moving forward but the Indians offensively they continued to be led. By Fred Mill Radius Hidden Three fifteen and thirty nine games Francisco door hidden to eighty six home runs seventeen rb Cesar Hernandez hitting two seventy form Jose Ramirez into fifty three Carlos Santana got over the Mendoza line he's up to two Oh, three in forty games. So their offense you know doing everything, they can to try to keep them alive and win this division. The pitching staff Shade Bieber Merican League cy young favorite one to five era in fifty seven innings is seven Oh. That is outstanding. Ninety four strikeouts to fourteen walks that radio and radio. Oh, my God that ratios crazy. She's two point six war for Shane Bieber Next Dab you got errands volley three, six, three era in fifty two innings Carlos Carrasco three, four three or a and forty, two innings. So those top three against the white sox top three or going to be three great pitching matchups I mean honestly. I think I favor the depth of the white sox ever. So slightly against the Indians when it comes to those matchups, but those would be three ball games that I would certainly be interested in watching and tuning in for when it comes playoff time but. We are clearly getting three playoff teams in the American league central and similar last week I mean nothing's really changed in regards to WHO's making the playoffs and according to ESPN. If you're looking at it here, we have teams. Ninety, one, hundred, ninety, nine, ninety, nine, Ninety, eight, Ninety, eight, ninety, six. Then it gets to ninety, two, an eighty four. So there's eight playoff teams and the lowest one is eighty four and a half percent. So the teams are set in the American league, it's just a matter of the order of the top two compared to the wildcard, the Blue Jays. The Yankees are having that conversation in the American League East twelve here in the central, it's between the white sox Indians and Minnesota twins who are twenty, five and seventeen in find themselves, turn it around they had lost six straight but then they won five in a row before their loss to the Tigers yesterday. They're looking to bounce back here on Monday on Labor Day. Coming down the stretch they have Saint Louis, makeup, Games. CLEVELAND CHICAGO CHICAGO CINCINNATI I kinda like Minnesota schedule. Over Cleveland and Chicago looking at it in more detail here. But when it comes to the twins, this offense continuing to slug continuing power along Nelson Cruz American league MVP candidate he's got thirteen home runs twenty nine Rbi's in forty one games Jorges, a lago hidden to eighty five. So let's see Eddie Rosario Miguel Sano both hidden to forty nine home runs on the year. So Nelson Cruz, really leading team offensively when it comes to across the board and that's certainly why you. Find Him in the MVP Conversation Ken to my Ada has been good for them to seven seventy. Ra and forty eight innings. He's four and one on the year Jose Burritos has been up and down he's got a four to ninety are a in forty two innings or three in three on the year and Randy Dob neck to seven to Yarra in thirty nine inning. So you're looking at those top three of my a Burrito Sin Dob Nak going up against the likes of. Alito Heikal and BIEBER. Harass volley I think the depth in Chicago and Cleveland gives them the advantage over the twins. Twins team is very solid. Very Good Josh Donaldson. Offensively, if he ever comes around tries to figure things out here if he's able to play again, still only played in twelve games hitting two, thousand, nine this year, they could be dangerous come playoff time but right now. I would certainly give the advantage to Cleveland. And Chicago when it comes to the stretch run here in the division, the Detroit Tigers in fourth place at eighteen and twelve they're hanging in there they went on a run but then they dumped four in a row and now find themselves back under five hundred at eighteen and twenty come down the stretch they play Milwaukee St. Louis, Chicago Cleveland. It's little stretch for the Tigers coming down here but. Kudos to them for continuing to battle continuing to. Not, give up down the stretch as things are starting to stabilize, and you realize that you're probably not making the playoffs based on the odds we talked about but Jonathan shoop having a good year victory is having a good year candelaria having a good year wanted to talk about those guys offensively and then on the Mound for Detroit you got Matthew Boyd, continuing to Struggle Spencer turn bill's been up and down tyler ZANDER's been up and down. So Detroit, I mean overall over achieving this year and I think if they look back and be around five hundred, that's something that they're going to be able to be out of. Last place here we got the Kansas City royals they're battling it out with the Boston Red Sox in the Texas Rangers for worst record in baseball not allowed to write home about they have lost six in a row in Kansas City and our certainly in the cellar when it comes to these squads but. Transitioning now over to the national, League Sunday night baseball wrapping up here in regards to central action they are headed to the bottom of the ninth currently as we're past the ten o'clock hour here, Sunday night with the cardinals leading the cubs. The cubs should still be in first place after this game. If they do indeed lose at twenty, three and eighteen, it'll be their. Third Straight loss to the cardinals in three out of four. This weekend. So a nice series win by the cardinals who are in second place at seventeen and fifteen. This put them just a couple of games back of the cubbies as they continue to try to make up games and ultimately see if they can win this division because Chicago scheduled down the stretch here Cincinnati Milwaukee Cleveland, Minnesota does end with Pittsburgh four with Pittsburgh in there. So you have to feel good about that. If you're the cubbies has a nice little buffer to have come the end of the year but offensively for the cubs, Ian Half continues to lead the way hitting three, ten Jason Heyward up over three, hundred and thirty. Four Games those are the only two really crushing the ball Ian. Have Twelve. Home runs. Twenty four B is he's had a ton of success this year and really been their best player offensively and then on the pitching side of things, they have the National League Cy Young in my opinion Yu Darvish at seven and one, one, four, four era in fifty innings. He's been act -solutely electric for them and we touched on it in the last episode where the odds you could have gotten on. Yu Darvish where much greater two weeks ago than they are today. So hopefully, you were able to jump on that and win a little bit of cash. Because from plus twenty, two, fifty, two, plus two fifty, certainly a big difference on the return on investment. The Saint Louis Cardinals like we said in second place, they're continuing to play good baseball that win tonight would put them six into in their last eight games. As they continue to make up games here their schedule is crazy down the stretch of as they have more games than almost anybody makeup games with Pittsburgh Milwaukee they got ten games left with Milwaukee. It seems yet Milwaukee who's not great but flirting around five hundred, you would think Saint Louis would be able to take advantage of that just a little bit here. So the cardinals in good shape to make the postseason in my opinion when it comes to the National League and. Paul Goldschmidt leading the way offensively hidden three, twenty, three in thirty games only three home runs. But still being effective, you have Brad Miller at third base hit and three Oh seven five home runs Paul Zhong shortstop in three hundred with three home runs. On, the pitching side of things, Adam wainwright continues to ball out he's got a two, six, eighty IRA, and forty innings Dakota Hudson to seven seventy Ra in twenty six innings. Kuang. Young. Kim a starter for them a point eight three. He's to know with a save in twenty one and two thirds innings. so He's been electric for them, and that's a name that I certainly don't know very well when it comes to the cardinals pitching staff but may need to learn about as we continue down the stretch here. Next we got the Milwaukee Brewers, the brewers in eighteen and twenty, one four and a half games out. Flirting with. Playoff. Positioning. They have lost here to and two in their last four, overall and five and five in their last ten. So like I said, kind of playing five hundred baseball at its finest here looking at the schedule, they got Detroit coming up followed by the cubs, the cardinals, the royal. So they do have a few basement dwellers left on the on the schedule, which is something they'll try to take advantage of, but I mean offensively Christian Yelich still continuing to struggle for them when it comes to the average side of things, he has finally gotten over the Mendoza Line. He Hitting Two oh one in thirty, seven games but Justin smoak first baseman hitting one, eighty, six and thirty three game. So guard what eighty, two and twenty eight games I mean this offense just continues to struggle with the highest hitting regular hitting to sixty six it's fascinating that dispatching staff has been able to keep them alive at all. I. Mean Brandon would drift three nine, one era in forty six innings Corbin Burns two, three, five, and thirty eight innings. These guys at the top are working their tails off to keep this offense around and keep them in games. The Cincinnati reds in fourth place at eighteen and twenty three. They have a minus twenty, four run differential, and they are four and six and their last ten not playing great baseball here they split with the Pittsburgh pirates over the weekend, which unfortunately isn't good enough if you're making a playoff Bush in the national league where things are a bit more wide. Open when it comes to play off season but we all know Pittsburgh is not very good. So you need to take advantage of that when you can in the national. League in Cincinnati has been a disappointment this year they were my surprise team coming out of the National League the White Sox listen to me and are at the top of the division. The reds the offense just didn't come around I mean Nick Castellanos is down to two forty-three. He has really cooled off he does have twelve home runs. DINOS warez ten, two, Oh four buddy does have twelve runs Jesse Winkler. He is in to ninety three with ten home runs. He's probably been their best overall offensive player with Joey votto out there hitting two thirty and making statements of this is why I didn't go to college because I know I wouldn't have success over the course of a sixty game season just kinda fascinating to think about ultimately what he's saying they're. On the pitching side of things, Trevor Bauer two five era. He's up there for the CY young award although his record at three in three does him a bit of a disservice then you have Louise Castio three, nine, five, era sunny gray three, one, nine, tyler may three nine zero. So the pitching side of things in Cincinnati has now been the issue. It's been that offense and the inability to get things going but the last place team there the Pittsburgh pirates in the NFL central. Said they split with Cincinnati over the weekend. Coming up here, their schedule looks like they got the white sox than the royals as they head over to the American league very quickly to play some interleague games. Offensively, we're looking at the pirates being led by a let's say Jacob stallings hit to ninety three in twenty seven games behind the dish will will give Jacob out here and then on the mound on that side of things really nobody to write home about I mean if we're looking at era and then game. Games played there really isn't a huge crossover, I mean, you're probably looking at g of Harlem in eighteen innings, a one, nine, six era as their top arm. But in the national league central, it's the cubs cardinals at the top Milwaukee's trying to hang around, and then in the American League we said it's the white sox Indians and twins in a league of their own but. Up here for the third segment of the GMC baseball podcast brought to you by the G. M. C.. PODCAST network will boss for another word from one of our sponsors one of our sister shows. But when we come back, we'll wrap up the Western divisions come on back we're talking American League and National League West I'm your host Kevin Mahalick we'll be right back. Want to know the latest and soccer that listen to the golden state media concepts. Soccer podcast MLS is the world the premier. League. We've got you covered a latest update the hottest matches news on the League's top players. It's the today's media concepts soccer podcast. Listen. Justice. The fourth and final segment of the GSM see baseball podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network I'm heroes Kevin. Mahalick once again happy Labor. Day, to all you lovely listeners out there I appreciate you guys tuning in today I know you listen to anything you want and you've chosen to check out the GSM. PODCAST so I certainly appreciate it. Hopefully, you're enjoying a nice weekend out there if you are at work. Thank you. Again, we appreciate you guys as well. So no matter where you are what you're doing I. I give you a shout out for listening to this podcast here today leave a five star review, Lisa rating all of the above we very much appreciate it but let's wrap up today's episode continuing around the League here looking at the Western divisions starting out in the American League, West, the Oakland Athletics continue to play great baseball they find themselves at. Twenty three and fourteen overall They have kind of jumped around Leeson Marie they've had some delays due to corona virus concerns there were a couple losses to the astros in there but to make up games than they lost two of three to the padres over the weekend and they find themselves ready to face off with the Astros here once again. So a very, very hectic week if you're the Oakland athletics but four with Houston, coming up for followed by four with Texas. So you got your Texas we coming up here if you're the Oakland A.'s. Offensively, Oakland continues to be led by a couple of individuals here. Matt Chapman having. Success Yeah he's only hitting two thirty two but he does have ten home runs twenty five rb is. Yes. Mandelson's only hitting one ninety five but he does have ten home runs twenty, six RBI's so not a lot of average happening out there in Oakland. But the power side of things offensively has been successful for them. The pitching side of things Chris. Bassett has been their most effective starter three seven to Yarra in thirty six innings. Then you have mike fires at a four, nine, three Ra Hayes useless Ardo at four to three. There are some nice options on the hill, but this statistics in the The record don't exactly line up and it just goes to show really how poor the bottom of this division is. That's really the difference when it comes to these guys because Oakland statistically should not be performing that well, and then you got the Houston Astros who were swept by the LA angels out in La in four games There is some turmoil going on down there. In Houston is continuing to try to find their footing there twenty one and nineteen. Next up they got five games in Oakland as one or two of these is a makeup game over the course of the next four days they got a double header on Tuesday then they go play the dodgers before heading back home to see Texas and Arizona Seattle? In Texas close things out so. The next week in Houston. Things could get interesting over the next seven days but following that the last two weeks things get much easier and stabilized for Houston. So if if things go south here over the next week in Houston, don't go crazy because there is a there's hope down the line when you're looking at the schedule but Michael Brantley continues to lead the team hitting. He's been out with an injury for some time. Now, Carlos Correa Hidden to ninety five in thirty, nine Games four home runs twenty two RBI's Kyle Tucker hitting two eighty, four with eight home runs and thirty seven rb. Is But the guy's been struggling really is George Springer to twenty nine, seven home runs. Twenty rb is he's working towards a big contract this off season. So things could be a little bit heavy for him at this point, but you would love to see George Springer kind of turn things on and figure out from starting pitching perspective. Zach rinky has been fantastic for them. He's been everything they wanted when they acquired him, he has a two nine one day in forty six innings. Lance mccullers Juniors has struggled forum framework Valdez though has been very solid three, six, one in fifty, two innings. On then on the back end of the bullpen, Ryan Presley continues to figure things out he struggled as first couple outings. But now he's up to seven saves Ziara is under four over thirteen innings. So shadow to Ryan as he started to figure things out. But Houston in second place. For three and a half games behind the Oakland athletics in the American League West and the rest of. You know the rest of the three teams under five hundred you got the Seattle Mariners who have won five in a row. They're now eighteen and twenty two up from thirteen in twenty two. So they are feeling good about themselves in Seattle, they're going to try to keep things rolling one more against. To against San Francisco three against Arizona I mean if you're going to get hot, now's the time to do it out in Seattle before you finish up with San Diego, Houston and Oakland. So you better take advantage of the next two weeks. 'cause you're closing stretch is very, very difficult. Almost the opposite of Houston like we just saw. So Seattle's going to have to win now if they want to try to get back into things here, Kyle Lewis continues to be excellent for them out in left field he sitting three fifteen, nine home runs twenty three rb is in thirty nine, Games Kyle. Seager forty games to eighty one, six runs twenty, eight Rbi's those guys are. Leading the way offensively. Then on the pitching side of things she got Marco Gonzales he's three zero ninety are a and forty three innings. Justin Sheffield four, three, four just in done four, zero nine. So the pitching seems to be letting people down out in Seattle and that's really the difference when it comes to a rebuilding team is you just don't have the arms where they need to compete. So it's been a slight struggle for the mariners, but nowhere near the struggle that it's been for the La Angels or the Texas Rangers of late but I mean the angels they have won five in a row they did sweep the Houston Astros there now seventeen and twenty five. Up From twelve and twenty, five and. Looking at their schedule, they could make some moves here I mean La, they may have to win out you're only playing sixty games. So the best they're going to be thirty, five, twenty five, but you got Texas Colorado Arizona Texas and then San Diego and La. So the last five or tough but outside of that maybe when all the other ones go thirty and thirty and there you go, you'd find yourself in playoff conversation. You're almost close to eliminate it at this point with twenty five losses in the American league it's Kinda fascinating to think about. Offensively though the main names continue to Chug along Mike Trout hitting to ninety five fifteen home runs thirty eight RBI's Anthony Ren Dome to Ninety two eight home runs twenty four RBI's on the pitching side of things Dylan Bundy two, four, nine era in fifty innings he continues to be excellent for them and then lastly in the American League West Texas Rangers stay of lost one, two, three, four, five in a row they're at thirteen and twenty six almost mathematically eliminated themselves. They got a tough stretch coming up against Oakland Houston and La all squeeze together. With each other here statistically offensively, who were they being led by? Let's see. Ronald Guzman is only played in ten games that doesn't count. So we'll go with Nick Zolak and seventy nine with a couple of home runs and some RBI's nothing really jumping out offensively they're on the mound lance. Lynn has been hit around a little bit in his last couple starts and he's got to six seventy ra in fifty seven innings pitched. So we'll see if he continues to. Run out of gas or what happens there in Texas I thought it was a mistake to hold onto him for sure there's no way his price is going to be as high next year. He's GonNa get you as much value with the performance he's been putting up. He's been outstanding this far. So looking over at the National League West, the current Bala. Ballgame, that's going on right now. Almost, eleven o'clock here Sunday night east coast time recording for you guys. We have the dodgers and rockies currently going at it. The dodgers are up one the nothing right now and they are in first place at thirty and eleven on the year they won one, two, three, four, five, six in a row before losing yesterday to the rockies and looking at. Their schedule here moving forward. They may find themselves winning in forty five games I. Don't think the realm of forty to forty five is out of the world of possibilities for La. If you're looking at it, I mean a lot with Colorado. Yes they have. Oakland San Diego and Houston coming up. But those other Games are certainly gettable for the dodgers sin. Offensively, it's their depth that is very impressive. I mean cody bellinger's starting to hit the ball. He's up to two twenty one. He does have ten home runs and twenty two RBI's smacks muncie still struggling to three does have ten home runs Jock Petersen hitting one eighty four. But then you got mookie Betts three, sixteen thirteen home runs thirty one rbi's he's in the MVP conversation as he continues to just be you know steady as she goes on the pitching side of things dust in May two, eighty Ra and forty innings Clayton kershaw again, the regular season he's been excellent one five. Oh, we are a in thirty six innings. We'll see if this is able to translate to the playoffs and he could finally have some success in the postseason unlike the things we've watched in the past with Clayton, Kershaw that I'm sure are bothering the heck out of him as he's avenue another successful regular season I couldn't imagine once again. Just him struggling in the playoffs here but the second place San Diego Padres of course, all the moves they made at the deadline they find themselves here playing good baseball of late looks like four and two in their last six, overall six and four in their last ten. They're scheduled coming down the stretch. Here is a lot of fun as well. Let's see who did they have lined up here. They go from Colorado to San Francisco and winnable games. Then they have the dodgers Seattle La and San Francisco in very winnable game. So I mean they're going to be favored and all, but three games down the stretch here I mean how many games do we have left twenty, eight, thirty, five now eighteen games for the padres here. So they'll be favored in fifteen at eighteen games in my opinion coming down the stretch which makes them you know maybe the second best team in the National League. They do have the National League MVP still as of today I know we like to talk data on the mid week episodes, which will to again this upcoming Thursday but tat tease junior he's tied with trout. Once again for the major league lead in home runs with fifteen, he's hitting three eleven thirty nine rb is so far this year. Manny. Machado twelve home runs thirty five. Rb Is he sitting three. Oh. One as he's been excellent offensively kind of very quietly out there people were talking about how hot Bryce Harper was. But Manny Machado who got paid that same offseason has also been putting in fantastic work on the west coast but nobody knows it because it San Diego and they're not on national television yet because they're a year ahead of schedule. Are Eric hosmer hitting to ninety-one right above him Austin Nola to eighty six and four games coming over from. SEATTLE. So I like San Diego's moves I really do down the stretch and I think this team. Could be a problem come postseason time. I mean you put Let's see Clemenger at the top with paddock lament, and that's op three and a five game series would be tough to argue with. But Colorado is also recently taken the lead here two to one and Sunday night baseball. So I know I said it was one to nothing, but it's now two to one in the San Francisco giants are in third place in the National League West at Twenty and twenty one currently outperforming certainly their talent as they've won five of their last seven games and look at their schedule moving forward they do have some opportunity. SEATTLE COMING UP. But four with San Diego seven total with them left three more with Oakland. So ten out of their remaining games with very good ball clubs which. Will be a tough stretch for the giants but if they're able to play like they have in the past I, mean, if Mike you Stransky is able to hit right around three hundred with eight home runs twenty seven Rbi's Wilmer Florez. He's hitting right around three hundred with eight home runs twenty. Some RBI's I mean, Alex Dickerson out in left field seven home runs and twenty rb is these guys have all been a surprise for the giants in in a good way and then on the mound Johnny Cueto, he continues to have his funky little timing delivery mess with hitters. It's been fun to watch the highlights online and everything he's trying to accomplish. Kevin Gaza in hung around the team, they didn't move him at the deadline but all these guys have the as right around four five and it's just kinda fascinating how they're hanging around down west there. Because right behind them. You got the Rockies nineteen and twenty. So basically, the same record just to less games then the San Francisco giants, but they've lost four. Of, six, there are two and four in their last six games and and they're going the wrong way. If you're looking at the Rock and then down the stretch, they got the padres Oakland La. Arizona they got a mix of good and bad there but I certainly don't see them making a run in any way to get extremely above that five hundred mark. Offensively the rockies have continued to be led by. Charlie, blackmon. In three, forty, seven. So not up near that four hundred mark, any longer five home runs thirty RBI's Yasser have. Trevor Story Nine Home Runs Twenty Rbi set in two, ninety four is he continues to be an effective shortstop. I didn't know if he'd have the staying power after moving to Lewinsky Outta town but you know he's shut me up here a couple years later that's for sure on the pitching side of things it's actually been slightly impressive Antonio since Tele he's got three three, three era in forty eight innings Kyle freeland four, zero, nine, Germain Marquee four, five eight. But that's what happens when you're throwing in coors field in Denver and that altitude. So. The Arizona diamondbacks at fifteen and twenty six may be the biggest disappointment in major league baseball. I mean, if you really think about it, the Red Sox, you could have predicted they were this bad the royals, the Tigers. The Texas Rangers, the nationals and the diamondbacks are the two teams and it's been the injuries for the nationals I mean the diamondbacks losing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven out of Eight Games here certainly looks like they're throwing in the talent fifteen and twenty six with games against La and Houston still to be played I. Mean they're not mathematically eliminated, but they're pretty damn close and offensively they're led by the Martinez starling. Marte say who they they moved they traded at the deadline he was their top player. So that makes it could tell Marta at three, zero, seven and two home runs and twenty seven rb. Top Guide and then on the pitching side of things Madison. Bumgarner I call this one I said this guy was done. He's out of bullets. All of the super smart computers had him at the top of the list here but eight four, four era in twenty one innings as he is Owen four and that five year eighty, five, million dollar contract looking like a huge huge bust in your one for the diamondbacks but. We talked about it wrapping up today's show finishing up the four segment here the American league. The teams are pretty much set. I got an eighty percent chance at least if you're one of the top eight now in the National League things are a bit more wide open I mean the braves and phillies are pretty set both above eighty six percent the cubs at ninety six. But then you got the cardinals at seventy seven dodgers and padres. Yes. But this is where that last wildcard you know is a lot of fun with the brewers at forty seven, the mets at fifty four and the giants at forty eight, all kind of vying for one spot. With the likes of the reds and Marlins and Iraqis floating around that kind of thirty percent mark. So in the American, league? We're really jockeying for positioning seeding and in the National League teams are still fighting for a playoff. A playoff berth and not just playoff positioning. But that wrap things up here for today's episode of the GMC Baseball podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network hopefully, you guys had a great Labor Day weekend a great. Labor. Day itself. If you're listening to this here on Monday if you're just catching up on Tuesday or Wednesday hopefully, you're enjoying the week West far I'm your host Kevin Mahalick as always here I talked to you guys every Monday and every Thursday on the GMC baseball podcast him that'll wrap it up for today I'll be back talking to you guys on Thursday enjoy your week everybody I'm your host Ken Mahalick. We'll talk to you again soon. You've been listening to the Golden State concepts, baseball podcast part of the golden state media concepts, podcast network. 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"Live from Investors Bank I studio Bura Sizing Greg Giovanni boomer and Geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on CBS sports network good football Friday morning hey barry entertaining fun. Thursday night game last night but of course marred by controversy because they stupid rule was was enacted at the end of last season because of an NFC championship loan call and now it's in the process of ruining this season. We will talk about that. We'll talk about giants excitement. That is around this team. There is juice. There is fun. They are talked about again and we're giving away. Giants redskins skins tickets whites this morning seven. Am Our nine am hours so stay tuned for that but I think most importantly I was glued yesterday to the Safeway open out in Napa Valley California as I was watching Tony Romo hitting them off the team shipping it like a bro and then to thirty Putz there to close out his round as he finishes to Wander tied for twenty second after his first round the Safeway and that means one thing and one thing only forget about Tony Forget about you. Forget about gymnasts it means. I'm going to Chicago Baby. Zito Vikings take on the bears that means good morning boomer man giveaway this clown show this morning. I mean yeah you know. Meanwhile meanwhile you know Tony Romo shooting two-under your texted me and we're going to Chicago. We're doing this. We're doing that now. If we go to Chicago told you dress like that. There is the white so for folks who have not watching sports. I work you have to understand. GEOS got a vikings hat on. It's one of those hats the big yellow and purple the thing with the the Viking warns on the side is the Minneapolis miracle another miracle here in another vikings pro or purple the law in this today but I look he's still got to get through today man yeah and if people don't understand what's going on here. They haven't paid attention. Tony Romo was granted permission by CBS to play Safeway Open if he makes the cut CBS has allowed him to miss. This vikings. Vikings bears game with Jim nance on Sunday. CBS came to boomer and said boomer. Can you fill NBA backup. quarterback boomer said somehow miraculously this happens. Tony Romo's never made eight one of these cuts. If it happens you want to go to the game. You're Vikings Fan. I was like sure that'd be great but that's like hey. Do you WanNa go to the moon. What did I tell you the chances world. I think it'd be he's slim because everybody's telling me that it's GonNa be really hard for Tony to do right and then he shoots a career round yesterday and you're texting me incessantly just like you. Can you believe this. This and I'm like all right somebody house talk. The amazing thing to me is that he's on the other side of the country playing gop. You're watching you are keeping me up to date on what's going on and you're like all wrapped up into this because not because you want him to win or Hindu you qualify you just want you to be. Oh yes. That's it. That's all this is about man in my book. This is what this is about and it's funny because you're out on the golf course hacking it up yesterday acetate. Here's Tony Romo shooting better than half the field. I know the dichotomy of it all. It's just it's ridiculous. It's just it's unbelievable but this is what I call boomer poop. It's it is man what happened. This is what happens in the world of boomer right so I'm still like in a holding pattern like I am. I going and my not going. I have no idea you're right about. I got to prepare Hera like I am going up and then I also have to prepare like I'm doing the NFL Today on Sunday yeah. I think I gotTa do both right now. I was really struck by time Montgomery who was on with Joe and Evan and talked about that speaking things into existence stuff and how positive you need to be and I think that's what we need to do. I mean Tony Tony. You WanNa be a part of this is to be a part of this thing. It's not just about me boomers about you as well so I think that if we just keep saying Tony Romo is going to make the cut. He's going to make the cut. We're GONNA the Chicago. It's going to happen then again. You're not coming dressed like that. Man Well all right. We'll see I did talk to them yesterday. The folks that do the show the the the the staff and everybody over there and I just said look. I'm going to be bringing my radio partner with me just so everybody knows right and they were okay with that. They seem to be fine with it. Okay so all right well. You're scared but I haven't talked to anybody from. CBS corporate like nobody's called me to tell me what to do and what you know what I'm supposed to be I have I have. I have all the emails from the number. One crew right okay and Jim Roope recall off. The director is taking really good. Care of me. Got Everything I need. Everything's things fine from that standpoint but I I do I go to I try to show up like on Sunday at Twelve I. I don't think that's Jabaliya. I believe the MP room at CBS. I don't think that's a good idea. Either I mean. I think that you know the idea would be a little bit choppy right now so when I'm getting there how we're still don't believe that well now. They got a coordinate to start getting a little hairy yesterday because what I finally got back to my phone and to see see what was being sent to me all of a sudden I started getting all the email oh yeah everything was coming to me because they do a lot of they do a lot of prep work for these Games. People realize what it goes into the shirts crazy and you know for the analysts. You know it's like you gotTA. Watch video. I'm trying to watch as much as I can. I mean it's not like what I do for a living although I used to do this. It must be good funny. If I get a chance to do it but and I know it'd be fun for you. Oh my God I can't wait. I in a holding pattern I want. I can't wait to stare down. Dan Matinee Fairs meeting just giving the output this hat on and then just like under my breath as you guys are talking about Mitch Trubisky ESCO Yeah. I don't think he'll go what's set by the way you know so yeah we do meet with both teams. If in fact that this comes the past two things one you're not coming to the Scott. Come on and to you know I don't need you being a slobbering all over my zimmer or you know Kirk cut while you won't slobber love over Kirk cousins but Mike Zimmer anybody else. No no no. I'm not a h-have yourself. I don't need to be making it all about you and your vikings and your Viking fan trip. I've been working foods so it was ten years old. I don't need that. That kind of distraction is not warrant just won't do that. The only did that once. When I was younger I went went to out to Vikings training camp and there was a I like this is going to be a story that you're going to tell Mike Zimmer. No I'M NOT GONNA die. Wouldn't this does not make me look good. We went out to vikings training camp. There was like a charity event that we bought tickets to and went and you can meet some of the players and coaches and I sat there and accosted Ted Cottrell about what defense offense he was running the playoff game against the eagles a year before that allowed Brian Westbrook to be uncovered in the fourth quarter for the game winning touchdown. I this is a true story. I said listen I just gotTA asking asking this. 'cause I mean like as a fan. Educate me Brian Westbrook at the goal line is just wide open in a playoff game but you did not notice this guy at talent or whatever he's looking me. WHOA dude it's like last season. We're at a charity event. I got like a cocktail Weiner and vodka. Why are you bothering me but that was a long time. Respect respect for the process. I'm just excited for this opportunity and I'd like to thank CBS for thinking of me during this whole thing and going to boomer and knowing how much would mean and all of that because they really didn't have to be so kind to me during this thing so I know there's still work to do. I know I gotta go out there and if Tony Chokes this up never going to forgive him ever ever ever so Tony. You gotta get focused all right. It's not just one day okay. I know you shot a great round yesterday. Your Day and everybody's all of you out race. Tony does everything great and we love Tony Tony. There's still work to do today. You gotTa bring it home for me all right. Bring it home for me man and this means a hell of a lot more to me than means to you all right so get it done. Okay okay get it done right and you you referred to this. This blown call last night packers game. I don't know everybody saw but you know they're supposedly the standard of clear clear and obvious which is what the standard is being used by the replay officials here in New York and there was a what would amount to a defensive pass interference review call by Matt Leflore the packers he feels like matic's gets in with I drive five of the Secondhand Valdez scaling so yeah so Marquez Valves gambling's the wide receiver Avantis Maddox is a defensive back. It's the first play I drive rather of the second half for the packers. It's down the the right sideline avant they matic's is got his back turned to Valdez scaling he hits him in the face masking never back turn to the ball facing valves scaling never plays the ball makes contact before the ball is there. This is one of these that that if you watch football for ten minutes in someone taught the rules you would say that's gotta be pass interference so amount of floor things it's pass interference because nothing is called on the field right so matt leflore then throws his challenge flag and tells tells the referee. Please check for defensive pass interference. They show the replay fifteen different ways. We're all sitting there at home and going. You know what that's pass in the past. I don't know what is like. This rule was created right here. This is it and and and all of a sudden and here's where the human element still still was involved in all of this because replay is not a panacea. It doesn't answer all the questions. It actually creates even more questions yeah a group of people in New York decided that that was not not defensive pass interference how I don't understand now they put out they've got their own twitter account and they put out the video and a little bit of a comment and they just basically said that you know it wasn't clear you're an obvious and he did not affect it and I just I don't. I don't understand how you could look at that with all the angles slow-motion all the stuff that they use in come away away with that conclusion which is I mean. MADDOX has got his hands in the face right underneath the base mask of a Valdas Gatling yeah I so this is what scares me about this rule now. Last year. There was a big issue in a big discussion point about the running back helmet-to-helmet stuff and how running back so they created contact put their heads down we get flagged for fifteen yards and it never came to pass like that was a big. Everybody's scared the game's. GonNa ruined because of that rule they competition committee he came up with and it passed and it never came to pass this year already though we're seeing that this one is screwing with the game now this is what they put. NFL officiating their official account verified account in philly versus Green Bay Green Bay challenge for pass interference. F- review there was no clear and obvious evidence that Philadelphia Number Twenty nine significantly hindered the opponent our riverine adding not significantly hinder the opponent. That's a significant interest went. Everybody saw it and live tyler. I didn't need to go to New York. I didn't need to do anything and it's just it's a significant hindrance saw so if you're going to put this -nificant hinder it was it was a significant androids. If you'RE GONNA put this rule and you go back and you review it. You're going to tell coaches you get the opportunity to do it. Matt Leflore doesn't perfectly. It's a textbook penalty like if there's ever such a thing as textbook penalty and then you don't have it and by the way hey there should've been a ejection earlier in game two on the hit on Jamal Williams and knocked him out of medicine targeting injection with a whistle blowing and a guy stood up and he goes helmet to helmet and in knocks him out. I don't know how that is an injection so I know it's a difficult job. I know it's the low hanging fruit to cross the officials and everybody does it. However when it's this obvious and you get an opportunity to look at it let's get it right. It was clear and obvious yes it was it was clear and obvious there was significantly hindered so those are the four keywords their significant hindrance so obvious include ave and this was supposed to help the league right. This is supposed to you make things better. We were supposed to have another line of defense. Oh Games couldn't by the way you want the packers to lose. Oh Yeah of course Chris Yeah of course I do and it was great that they did now the vikings when they go and beat the bears in I'll be watching with my own two eyes me you and Jim Nance booth then they'll be tied for first in the NFC north. This is a great victory. I just can't stand this nonsense that when you make you first you have a reactionary situation from the NFC championship game that you never should have reacted in the way that you did but then Dade. You're figuring okay. When there's penalties like there was last night then we'll be able to get it right for one so I sorta Sorta made myself feel better about it but then last night clear and obvious significant hindrance still no penalty call so I'm just kinda snuck something in there and it's it's almost like you just like set it in by me not reacting to it? You're thinking that what you said was correct. I don't know if it's going to be correct. What's that you said like when you me Jim Nance into booth watching a game. Oh yeah that's right but you just like threw that out. You know we'll be in the booth to interrupt you as you were going to rant. Now we'll see what do you mean what they set the booth up. I have never been there. I've never been a part of that saw a big booth big booth listen. Where am I going to be with you. Let's say let's say I duNno I duNno. Let's say Mitch Trubisky Hits Allen Robinson it down the sideline for a touchdown. I don't need to hear back. I don't need to hear that at the back. Do you know what I'm saying. I don't know if kirk cousins hits. Dalvin cooked down the side right. I don't need to hear to go vikings go. I don't need to hear in GM's going okay. We've got a maniac in the book. Not I'll behave myself man. I know I know the deal. You put me in a spotlight. Dow Drinking no drinking drinking. Well absolutely no drinking. No you cannot if you're going for spotty enough. You could be in there that I don't know well. Where are you going to secondly. You're not what you're not going to be in there. Where are you going to put me. I feel put your right out in front of the booth out in the stands right in front of the booth. Yes with the peasants kid kids out there kind of be in with the big time people man. I can't be out there now if you if you give me a nice seat and then I'm going to be by myself. I I mean this is now. This is now getting not as attractive. I understand but I'm just I'm worried about you because what I took it to the game that Monday night and actually it was Mitch Trubisky's. I start Minnesota Vikings with case keenum as quarterback two years ago right. You were uncontrollable. I so you were a little bit out of control. I think to if there's food around that doesn't mean that food is there for you yeah yeah that's. That's still haven't learned that lesson said yet usually when I see food spread. I'm just assuming I I remember how dinner off from Westwood One thing you know. He's eating our food yeah. I'm like well look at them. I mean he was huge. Talk so every every I did not have the heart to tell you right. It was just one of those things where I felt like. I earned that food yeah so I basically did not eat that. I told how I would not eat right. Executive producer. Is Our dinner up yeah. That's right so you were on a hunger for strike just to make sure that I was OK. Well this guy. He's a big guy got his time. I'll make sure that we have a nice big dinner and we go out to dinner the night before. Jim Not not me you and Jim and maybe executive producer if he's allowed there. I'm not sure I don't know the guy but maybe you do but yeah that that dinner the night but what I'll make sure I'll do is I'll just order like Gal like a porterhouse for two and then I'll just eat the whole thing myself and then I'll be full for the next day. You don't have to worry about right and who's paying for that. I'm sure that's the number one crew that pick up the TAB right but I'm not sure I'm not sure we met at the fight member of the backstage the Toronto no no Tony Toronto the Guy who took over rush. CBS who we met him he had a great conversation with Oh. No no no no. We had a great conversation with him but that doesn't mean we have have like unlimited funds when we go on the road. He'll remember me yeah. He just say he'll come across his desk. We'll go. I know yeah right Mr Iannello L. Okay now. It's okay yeah yeah yeah. Yeah I say Joe. Hey remember at backstage to fight. Okay this Puerto asking you pick this up for me. It was what's the problem he'll he. He I remember he said to me. He shook my hand goes. Hey anything you need a few cocktails at night. I think we all did yeah. I'm not saying I didn't ask you about all of us. Specifically about you. Yeah did yeah yeah. Why do you have to throw Wpro all of us into that. When I'm just asking just just your just to paint the picture you know just to paint the picture. Just one of those things you know. we have dinner that that night we did not go with my wife to dinner all right so and met you there right so but yeah and then you guys were all like tuned up yeah yeah we we showed up there we had we had a good time and I met Joe. Lionello anything you need. I don't ever want to get in touch anything you need and I said okay fine. The might I might use that I I don't know if he said those your may factoring some seven eat anything from me. I'm here for you. It was it was the fog of whatever you were doing. he was he couldn't have salt of the earth. Guy Very nice got an idea. I was trying to be nice and Kinda. WanNa get into an argument with some people that work for so yeah it yeah well. He'll be fine with this sylvie finally hey we're pumping the hell out of their game for crying out loud. I mean I don't have the pump the hell out of their game. The game is one of the best games on the network yeah but I'm just saying we're twenty five double header game in Chicago. Hey Soda. Does it get any better think about this. You got the jets off. You got a New York audience. You got half the fans that are jet fans that are going to watch this game because there's going to be even more of a New York big number of eyeballs watching his game 'cause you're doing. We're talking about and the Jackson Axelrod to be waiting for you to say something in the background that's already but he's GonNa Care Allah's GonNa care about. Does He. Say Anything about Mike during the game or any that kind of like that would be ridiculous. I'm not an all listen. I'll be on my best behavior. I'm not going to embarrass you getting all my excitement out now. Everything's GonNa be fine bayshore. Pat What's happening. Hey guys I called the other day said Romo's got no shot and he shoots to under so now. I'm rooting for Utah Seattle. Thank you thank you pat. I appreciate it too much today. Yeah you know what people are. GonNa say that I'm talking to the money being this excited about it but I it's all about the positive house of mindset man. I'm speaking it into existence is what's going on. I mean I love it. He added eighty seven major champions right now so he's doing his thing yes so so the odds. Phil Mickelson yesterday I know so the odds are pretty good right. I mean you would think now. I don't know anything about this Joe. You're a big golf guy. I know let me slapping it all over the place. You know it's just a cat. The other day put my fifty six degree back in the wrong bag so I didn't have it. Just I was so annoyed. That's not so yes savage yeah well. I mean I'm thinking that if he does the same thing again today at this all right I mean it was a great day and the here's the problem though he's not off until later on this afternoon. Oh really what time do you know he's. He's got the afternoon round. I know that he plays the morning yesterday. Okay so teed off at eight local time yesterday so I think he may tee off probably somewhere between between noon and two today which would be like four o'clock our time so that's why I'm in a holding pattern like wh- what do I do was there I supposed to do is there. What am I supposed to. What are you taking right now with. which thing in particular how do I get there? What do I do. How do you get to One. Should I get there. Should I go just in case yeah all of a sudden. Oh yeah absolutely go just in case then Friday night on on on the arm I get it get bad the weather in Chicago and you can't get there. You know you'd never know right yeah right. It is the windy city. City is projected cut on this yet. I have no idea well. You directly affects you and your life. You're the one that was tax them yesterday with all the updates so I figured you handle it not me I just I was just so excited side of it yesterday. I wasn't planning for twenty one on the fan. We're running late. Let's get through this whole thing and we'll take all your phone calls. You've got a big giant game this weekend against the Redskins. I mean I saw a bunch. The giant fans last night and they are all jacked up to go to the game on Sunday. Why one reason Danny dime that's right. We're giving away a knock calling him Danny Nines. I'm just saying that's twice. You did it yesterday and see Portrait de that nickname sucks and I'm not I'm not gonNA name. It's not it done so we're giving away. Giants tickets Danny dimes in person seven. Am Nine am hour so stay tuned for that. It's the morning show with boomer. Esiason and Gregg Giannotti bloomer in Tony Romo tees off at one twenty five eastern today so this makes this thing a little bit more complicated yes. She teed off piddly eleven forty five one twenty five eastern now. I also think it makes it harder for him. You think I do because I think there's going to be a number in the back of his head that he's I'm going to have to get to as opposed to starting. Am just playing a good point. Jerry know someone was out right. I mean you played long enough to know well. I haven't played in tournaments like this. Black lacked the fact that he actually has done this now this is. I think this is the third time he's tried to qualify. I mean he must really be great. Obviously it yourself in that situation so he's got to be a real annoying because he's good at everything right. Well good luck winning very likable. Oh yes I get the whole thing off games like I understand that you jaded and I love. A Guy came up a little bit but let's get real here. He made it to the NFL had a good NFL delcor a great track that he took to get to the right to that bill parcells thought enough of him to replace Drew Bledsoe and because bill was I think kinda beholding drew bledsoe for all those years up in New England hops in the booth. Everybody loves him in the booth might get the highest salary ever as color color commentator and now he's frigging post in to wander at. Safeway open up in Napa Valley better than you know L. Three quarters of the field wife is probably offline. His kids are terrible. No they're lovely and she's beautiful. One of these guys it's got to be annoying the good the thing that he doesn't have the Tom Brady has super bowl rings by pretty much everything else do sketchers ads everything right. Maybe I can get out of this. It does corona too uh-huh. I'm thinking now that maybe just maybe we could probably do a little bit more and extending this kind of thing a little bit further. Oh Yeah just have them just play every weekend. You couldn't make the commercial for the schedule. So I said informed. There were shooting. They were GONNA shoot it out Jones beach. There's something to Hawaii. I'll get that one. I got that one Tony. Don't worry about it or not this great opportunity. Why not just be right there just to clean up? All the Tony Romo stopped doc whatever man I'll tell you that busy guy you gotta you gotta fix your Jerry. Nameplate arrogant man thing is broke ever figured out what happened. It broke again. Dad someone broke that off. What's going on so much is messing with us now and I don't like it at all. Don't these cameras they on we have some visual evidence frustrates me to see that. I got my own little would played here and boomer's got now is said last time that we were wrong. It was broken already. That was not bright. The Star was is not broken off now. It is it's gotta be. It's gotta be a giant Fan. Animals all right. Jerry got an update for us. We are brought to you by direct energy business. Your the GO-TO team for Total Energy Management Thursday night football kicked off week four in the national football. League pags got a good start. They led the Eagles ten nothing looking to go to four and oh but Philadelphia Nima right back and right by Howard the backfield Philadelphia looking to break the tie wentz under center two receivers. There's to the right may have pounded the football in the second half on the ground given the middle second effort touchdown nine. Eagle was would one on the fan put them ahead packers had chances though they had a chance in the final minute they were inside the ten yard headline a couple of cracks until Rogers gets all the ball tipped and pick the dry for green bay shotgun for Rogers. Two receivers right watches looks that way throws Joe problems off the richocheting twenty-one again. I in Westwood one aspect of the Russell Wilson -ception the Super Bowl kind of similar. Although it wasn't the defensive back that undercut the wide receiver was a tip ball but the defensive back out there got his Vandermeer and tipped the ball up in the air and I'll tell you is there anything better than watching Aaron Rodgers. Throw the football yeah many times to see through it last night. He threw for four hundred fourteen yards. I'll tell you what he is on and he's doing his thing. I mean it's probably one of the best things to watch in the. NFL didn't get the job at the end though man you know that's the end of the first half went right down the field yeah if D. seconds right. They lost avant diatoms. Drama Alison made a couple of great catches on the drug thirty eighty four twenty seven the final score eagles get back to even at two and two packers three and one here was Carson Wentz in throw for a lot hundred and sixty yards but he did throw for three touchdowns touchdowns. He says the windows a lot for the team's confidence. It definitely does you know. I think you know even the last two weeks. You know we've been extremely confident in the guys. We have in the ability that we have to to win. Ballgames James just came up short a couple of times and so this is kind of a nice little spark for us to you know now we got a couple of days off a hundred and sixty yards but he was when he needed to make a play. He made a play whether he was running around making a play or put the ball right. He didn't turn the ball over. They ran for one hundred seventy six yards less than that was a little surprising Jordan Gordon Howard any seven yards two scores Mile Sanders for another seventy didn't turn the ball over. That's you know your boy Kirk. Cousins is going to have to do that this week. Sure when we're when we're at the game yeah. I think if the jets are watching his game last night too. It's hopefully get Sam back and you throw the football all over the place because they got some problems in that secondary. Ronald Darby is going to be back or not. I wonder if he'll be back in ten days and then I wonder if they're trained for Jalen Ramsey too. That's another thing that could have who said he still would like to be dealt. Here's Wednesday on. NFL Network where the Eagles fans pretty much took over the broadcast. I think it was beneficial for the high right now. They can hear that at home. If you're here eagles fans which is about fifteen Dallas Dallas suck as in in super bowl championships bitches jerry responding to his heckler I at the headliner years ago yeah that was fun. That's the kind of stuff I don't want this. We don't worry Batmans. Trust me I can. I can flip that switch into professionalism. You've seen it before yeah. I didn't sit at the boxing event when you were all over. You Know Joe iannello yeah. I was a little the different you know boxing events. You know a little more loose. People have fun. Backstage drinks are flowing and this is a very serious thing. You know you see Jim Nancy Straighten right up and you act that's right he is he is expectations. Hey everybody it's boomer assize and it's September and you know what that means the NFL on CBS is back stream. I'm your local game live every Sunday with CBS. All access available across all your favorite devices all you have to do is go to CBS DOT COM slash boomer to get a one week free trial of CBS all access. Here's Aaron Rodgers Yeah. They went up and down the field but quite frankly they didn't score enough. You know we struggle in the red zone to Phil Goes. you know four passes on the one and then obviously the turnover and also you had the lack of lack the poll pass interference issue the last night and what the refs did or didn't doing what the replay officials are obviously huge. S. I mean especially the one that's all over the place on the the Eagle defender Yeah Matt. It's unbelievable here was matt. leflore packers coach was asked about it yeah. I really don't know what pass interferences anymore so. I'll just leave it at that too. Is that cost them a time out that they could have used the challenge game but even even the interception at the end. I mean you can make the how many any time you see a defender wrap his arm around. I know he made that. They'll allow a little of that. That's okay but they don't always that's the thing. When can you do it. When can you not legit. When is it not. The amazing thing is is that now I now. I think that the head coaches in the league are going to be afraid to throw that flag goes. They're not going to you know get what they I think they're seeing right right. What is the point in. You're losing time out especially in the in the first half. It's one thing but now those timeouts precious especially when these games are close in behalf. I wouldn't throw that unless it was so unbelievably obvious and it was a key point in a game whereas either win or loss was on the line. That's the way it would be for me. If I were a head coach because there's seeing nat last night second-half clear and obvious whatever stupid term significant insurance could ever it. Is I mean. I'm still losing time out in a close game like this man. I'm holding onto that thing. Forget it might march used to chew up his timeouts like before the first half was over like like before the first quarter was over and then you think okay in the second half after like when he was running the greatest show on turf then you think in the second half okay he's going to hold onto his time now right after the third quarter boom all three timeouts got right through and giants redskins. Sunday gets us some baseball the Yankees picked up a half game on the Astros though still a very big long shot there to out for the best record with three to go and obviously Houston has the tiebreaker heartbreaker Yankees and Texas tonight we'll get to the rangers in a moment James Paxton Joe Palumbo the starters they're Zack wheeler was throwing an absolute gem last night any helped himself of out with an RBI single and a scoreless game in the bottom of the seventh look like the mets were on their way to a win and then all of a sudden in the eighth inning wheeler sorta struggled a little bit to to to hide the pitch swing and a drive deep to right back goes conforto this ball might go and it's gone to run a homer for Tyler Heinemann and that ties the game to pitch right before I know was a strike you're right because what's his name drops the ball. I get it the partisan call it would have been strike three and should have been strike but it wasn't and you get the game tying home run and then of course an old friend now granderson hits deep to right center ball's going to sell out of here Curtis Granderson with a pitch at home rod to put the Marlins in front three two it all that was left. Gary Cohen has and why was that Wendy s another home run in the night and the Marlins Rhonda beating the mets four to really weird night for sure. wheeler was was terrific eight innings. He did allow three runs in five hundred ten strikeouts but before that eighth inning I mean he was dominant but he does suffer the loss. snape scoreless was game as I mentioned with the RBI single kind of did it all now. Let's eighty three and seventy six final series of the season tonight mets braves Marcus Stroman Phasing Dallas Kaikal now imagine the Yankees are in Texas. They're gonNA play the Rangers who yesterday took on the Red Sox. I take you to the ninth inning one out in the ninth. Mike minor seeking his two hundred strike out of the season high pitch count though and he's facing Chris owings on a note the count was here would have been an hour this one often the air drop look like that might have been on instruction gory yeah well that's Fox Sports Texas he did let it drop because Mike Minor screaming to him to let it drop and on the next page which is a garbage strike three call by CB buckner walkner. They strike out. Chris and I mean it's not even close so he gets his two on the strike out comes out and gets a standing ovation on Nessin up in Boston. Jim Rice was asked his opinion of what needed to happen after that was not a not a good play at all but then again. It's been a hitter if that happens. The next pitch I'm trying to do is try to hit. One in the middle hit him on the forehead point. Kinda reminds me of like the pret- Far Michael Stranger does y'all right the Mike minor was telling his player the play the ball now's interesting. I don't know which one of the guys it was. I might have been rice. WHO said it's very possible? Two hundred strikeouts for him could have ignited ignited a bonus not sure but he theorized has got to be something to it other than just saying that you play it straight and then they agree organization. If they've got any sort of print yeah they take care of their guy. That's going to be the case. I it was Mike Minor saying. Don't catch don't catch it. That's when it certainly looked like an even going. Ah almost seemed like you could hear it too but there's not a lot of people that ACC- yeah and he's getting as you can imagine that well well no. I'm just like and it's fair. I think he was done anyway. I'm just saying that I bet you caught it. You Yeah I think so. That would have been even worse. I think caught that Lands Fair territory they let the guy reach base. That would have been even worse to run game. They wound up winning. Seven five angels bills beat the Astros in twelve four as of the mariners three one so the wildcard situation in the American League Oakland one game up on Tampa for the first spot. They are two of now on the Indians who we're shut out by the White SOx eight. Nothing nationals be how about this the nationals took all five games them phillies yeah and the phillies are under five hundred and keep spending all that money because doesn't guarantee damn thing. I know here I was going to tell you those nationals they've been collapsed and they could collapse eight is running to the phillies and kept right and then the the cubs and the phillies just fell off the list of the earth earth and now the cubs play Saint Louis this weekend. Saint Louis is a game up on Milwaukee who goes they swept Cincinnati and other go to Colorado. You know it's amazing is is that when the cubs came here and swept the mets look completely different team they left New York and fell apart did by the way I'm reading this article about Mike Minor and allowing this ball drop Rangers Rangers manager Chris Woodward wasn't also wasn't happy about it good to know yeah but the Alex Cora was obviously not happy about it. Yeah of course Woodward did say the Red Sox set the tone by wildly swinging to avoid striking out in the eighth inning which also was bizarre as well. You know what the Hell is going on here but it just didn't seem right twins beat the Tigers ten four Yankees will play Minnesota in the from most likely will play Minnesota first round of the playoffs starting next Friday. Jonathan Scope homered. He was the person with three hundred home run for Minnesota so that did happen last night and Lakers forward Kyle Kuzma out indefinitely with a stress reaction in his foot and the nets have their media. I think at eleven o'clock this morning all right thank you jerry eat the morning show with boomer. Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo uh-huh giants redskins tickets and that all of a sudden is a hot ticket in town with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback for the giants coming off that that performance against the buccaneers and now you've got a team in the Washington redskins comes in limping after a bed embarrassing Monday night performance and their defense that it was supposed to be somewhat competent for them has been awful so Daniel Jones gets an opportunity to continue to excite everybody around here with another performance and maybe just maybe as they are favored getting them back to two into and that's really what this team is about. I mean there's saquon injuries a big deal for the giants but it's flown under the radar because everybody's concerned about the quarterback and how special he can be so. There's somebody who has circled this game. All IT Landon Landon Collins that's right lane coming back to the meadowlands and interesting because that defense has not been good in their secondary has not been as advertisers. I spend a lot of money back there and just because you spend it doesn't mean it's going to work all the time so I feel like the redskins are the poster franchise for that overspending in stinking king well. The other thing too is is that when you when you're always constantly bringing people in and changing things and spending money and try to put things together as free agency you know Green Bay has done it and they did a pretty good job with it even though they lost last night you know these players have to get used to each plane with each other. You know they have to understand you know how how they how they could read off of each other especially in the secondary. It's not easy and I think they're having growing pains yeah. I think the only time that it really worked were were you spend all that money and it worked for a year was the giants a couple years ago. When they brought in snacks Harrison they brought in Jenkins and there was another big signing there air then I'm Vernon Vernon yeah when they brought in all those guys that worked for a year. They were great together for your never usually happens that way. Now you know after that I mean the completely fallen apart but for that one year with the postseason they wrote their defense all the way to a to a wild card berth so I mean that but yet generally literally doesn't work and it hasn't worked for the REDSKINS and a lot of top picks a lot of guys off Alabama's Defense Landon Collins from within a division Josh Norman acquisition musician a couple of years ago and they're just bad. They're just flat out bad the struggles on offense. We're going to be obvious his basically no weapons or number one wide receiver Tyler siler maclaurin in case keenum's turn the ball over everywhere. Darius guys gets hurt again and that's not a shock that they're often as bad but the defense being this bad as a shock well. I you know I think they're probably looking at the giants on defense we throw for five hundred yards or so yeah the Chinese. We kind of both think that it's going to be a high scoring game yeah. It should be a fun watch. It really should be now. You're not going to get the same case keenum. He got against the bears. That's for sure this is why I thought it might have been a decent week for Dwayne. Haskins go out there and I guess you know Jay. Gruden doesn't believe that he's ready and sometimes these guys aren't ready. You know not everybody Patrick. Mahomes is ready and they want with Alex Smith though Alex Alex Smith played well and they got him all the way to the playoffs and installed in the playoffs right and that's one of the reasons why Patrick Mahomes took over you know last year and they traded out SMITHTU lawsuits yeah and of course his career basically over now to terrible injury going to Anthony in Belleville. What's happening good morning. My man what's happened enter. Anthony what's happening g. I got a little jingle jingle for me all right. Let's hear it. Yep Rome Combo. Don't suck gotta make the cut kill. Watch party party. That's not bad. They're anthony a you know of all the things you've called up with all the SLOP. You've thrown our way. That's a pretty good. One man has a pretty good one. That's very good man. It's great. It's great. It's definitely definitely great to hear. Your Voice and I'm glad you're on my side Romo. Don't suck make the cut. I WANNA party Kenny in Bay on what's going on Kenny not. How are you my Johnny. What's brother listen with unexcited right. I really am but with that said I can't figure you out. All you've said for the last year year and a half is that you're older. You can't get dragged in. You can't let this team through your moment sure you've got a family now the door leaf. You're like a fifteen year old boy who got his first kid and you're giddy and you're ready to rock and roll. Here's the difference. Kenny wait worst Kaci and six. I'll tell you why Kenny all right here. Here's the reason why I actually think they're going to be pretty. Hey good this year and I've been consistent with that even before they played games. You have heard me. I know you listen this show. I've been consistent that I think they're going to be pretty good actually think they're going to go to the NFC champ Atlanta Atlanta in Minnesota in the NFC land has been terrible but but I did say Minnesota make the field goal this time well. That's what I was saying. I just felt like I don't know if I like something. Special is going to happen. I've been invented ninety eight. That's what I felt so so into them now and the fact by the way that this cool thing is happening with boomer and Tony Romo almo and it's a viking game it just feels like serendipity. Kenny and that's what it feels like with with that said. I hope I wish nothing but the best I hope Romell won't make the cut and I hope you have a blessed goals. Thank you what about me and I thought okay. No seems like right now. This is old hat for you India right. It's turned into like it's all about Gio now it is it's well right. I mean I'm the one who's GonNa. You'RE GONNA be working and focused and like all GonNa make sure that I don't screw this up. Yeah I got to cram everything and meetings I mean I've worked with Nance before he was the host of the NFL today when I we started with CBS. I forgot that yeah yeah and then and then Greg Gumbel came and then now James Brown so I've worked with three different hosts now to Jim too clear. Did they have to clear this with Jim. I'm assuming they did. I was texting with him yesterday. It was it was I texted him. Hello hello friend then in that of course we was doing something last night but yeah he was. He's doing some every night school with everything I would imagine they had run it by them. Yeah you would think so he could have nixed this and did not a guy who is just another way to make deeper into the weeds here about things consort manufacturing what no no no he could have a perfect way to stick. Nah seemed you know you guys. You guys need to go down Washington. That's what you need to go. Sit in that pile of poop no no no. I don't think there's anything to do with Phil. Nothing Phil Does the bill is sitting there in the NFL. Phil doing doing a great job. He's mad at you mad at me. Oh Yeah. What does he not mad at me now but he's like he told me yesterday. He's mad at you like seriously I can't win. I can't win with Phil. I praise fell. He's mad at me. Take Shots Phillies MED. He was always he's punching me and to be slapped me in the back of the head. Not Let that fly told me because you imitate him you ask yourself questions and you know who right yeah that whole the thing and he doesn't like that so he doesn't like specifically when I to the people come up to me and say do Jones pro bowl more like okay well. I say keep doing it. I just want to let you happy about it but I'm just like when he's. NFL OUR LOVES AL DUKES YEAH OUT DUKE says this whole thing then coach cowardice and like coming out do gets intimidated around him when he comes here and coach Coward Toby. Are we on Sunday goes my love because I set your your team. Parlay Coward and you had the coach in it and you fast forward through his coach speak and then got his pick. He really broke down chiefs Ravens. We were just looking for a quick picks that we fast forwarded through bribed. You love that coach speak. Oh yeah it's crazy. How did it has coachspeak coachspeak and he actually thought it was pretty creative okay good. I thought he was fine. He didn't have any problem with the all right. Good you on the other end yeah so just to be clear so like when Phil on the NFL Today Like J. B. O. Say So Phil. What do you think about case keenum against the giant. People come up too scrudem yeah. That's the thing yeah okay just making sure you don't WanNa make sure you know what he likes and he doesn't you gotta be saved much I mean. Have you seen what you look like today. I'm just putting out the Juju out into the atmosphere man. That's what I'm doing. The Positive Energy Adam speaking this whole experience into existence. Yes we're going to be out in Chicago tonight. Hanging out and it's going to be me you Jim Nance and Matt Nagy you in the morning on Saturday talking some ball and then and then outside it'll be Mike Zimmer and they'll shuffle him in. I'll be like Mike. Let's go with you baby and I'll show him a tattoo and give them a little flex and then we'll go out to eat and then I'll put it on the Joe iannello tip. That's what we're doing. Oh boy let's go. This is not a good idea. It's a great idea. It's the best idea you've ever had and then I it was not a reality until two big. T- Yesterday Bernie those last two. Let's go to Jerry New Jersey Jerry what's happening. Hey Jerry what's going on. Listen you WanNa talk about positive energy out there yeah then Google sportsbook books got Tony Romo. He's got its own category really yes to make the plus three hundred to not make the cut minus four seventy. I'm pulling for you. I just put one hundred dollars down on him to make the break. Wow that's so wait a second. Those are the odds to make the cut is still plus that much money or three hundred after his under the two yesterday wow that actually did not make me feel pretty good. I mean me no I will though to maybe yeah right now positive. No I know I'm positive I'm positive I just don't lie. I listen I trust oddsmakers. Jerry and I ve oddsmakers. oddsmakers are are that Tony made like a forty five foot putt from off the green yesterday yeah for a bird to men. You know what Jerry you're right. I'M NOT GONNA start slipping down this negativity road here even if I saw these odds that that's not good but I'm going to check out Fan sports book here how the whole Tony. I thought that was going to be Jerry from the newsroom New Jersey. Wow so that that chain that does change things a little a little bit here. Though was that well. He's a prohibitive underdog to make the cut at this point. Let's go to will in South River. Well what's happening and good morning boom good morning. GM Hey. I'm I'm excited. I hope you get to go out and enjoy yourself. Thank you just want to give you a reminder not to commit career suicide. Don't break wind in the booth with gymnasts around. I mean what do you mean. That's exactly what happened seems far Donovan. There is a video. Everybody just stopped. Everybody just calm down. You know that story. Hey listen you know. He's not everybody just thought. I don't think he's a reason that I think that was the breaking point between the two pun intended but that it did happen in remember the win. We've talked about that and I think it's warmed up. Though Jim just talked about the atmosphere of the game aw aw aw that's real repeal that we put that in real happened you. Are you warm earlier in the game or you just no. I'm fine okay. You go awed. He had a chance get. I just go. I mean he had a point. He had a point. Don't do that if you ever want. Everyday boomer came into your office and ripped parts. She's don't do it. Don't do it man. What is that. It's just it's just a warning. I I don't know where he gets what you have actually completely i. This is off the rails. It's limits on the rails man. It's on the rails are you. It'll be fine from Belleville saw. We'll talk about foreign and a booth well. He's trying to protect you. I that was a major major problem. There between fellow be work with me now. It's going to be a two years. we ever had that problem here. I mean you like to sometimes let them go tit-for-tat thing. There were proud of him. I don't know about that. Let's go to Vincent Chicago Vince what's avenue brother. Hey Good morning guys just wanted to welcome. Geel up Kaga Land and if he wants to go muskie fish tomorrow morning. We'd be happy to have him. Come along sure you're you know what that would. That would be awesome if I'm not allowed in that bears meeting in the morning. I'll definitely go fish with you know you're not allowed in the bears meeting at five o'clock o'clock in the morning gio so I feel like normal day for you okay. That's sounds good to make civil. See what happens here. Eventually you on twitter. No I'm not unfortunately I'm man all right. You know what we'll do. Is I'm serious. I'll go if you're not allowed in the Matt. Nagy me and I will go fishing with you. I'm sorry messing around. I I mean this is like this whole take now. It's become like a vacation thing for you. Get Vince is number there and I will go if because what else am I going to do just hang out hotel by myself not aloud in that bears meaning. I'll go fishing. That'd be awesome awesome muskie fishing. I don't trust that guy by team because he's a guy from Chicago next thing you know I'm getting shanked shanked official and then dumped into lake who knows I. We have to take a break here. You know far ten thousand dollars get out Jio fat. CBS Sports Network it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo. Oh so I did find the category on Fan Duel sportsbook that caller was talking about and he was right Tony Romo to make the cut plus three hundred commits ikat minus four seventy so the oddsmakers over there still believe that it is going to be a very difficult task for Tony Romo to its sports the Kat right sportsman. You never know I'm thinking about though I'm thinking about lane some money on that Tony Romo to make the cut then I can celebrate when we're out in Chicago with some money you know and I pay for my own state tonight. Not put it on the CBS Tab okay. What do you think I don't have to feel so bad about it the guilty if you want to be if you want to be positive and you really want to show your positively then derived saving money where my mouth is on this big of Romo odds. Let's go to Anthony New Jersey Anthony Anthony what's happening. Hey man you guys are just great every day. I'm with you guys and I wanNA talk about Romo because I don't know if people understand that significance of what he's done yet hey g oh you go ahead and lay that money boss because for him to shoot it to do one on his first day to come back today with just the same is going to be an easier task. You think so. Well not not that easy. I may be using the wrong word but it for him. Yes all the nerves from that first day and you know everything there's good out on that practice course but when you get in there and Adam Scott is leading this them names alone. I mean you know Tony. Romo don't have short name. Shell but you're no. It's just a remarkable. I'm glad you guys are behind. Everybody needs to be Yeah Anthony. I'm I'm really ought to because it affects us in a positive right exactly I mean really if it didn't mean that boomer was going to the game and taking me. I wouldn't be paying attention to this at all. Let's get real but it is quite an achievement you can look at it two ways you can look at it like. Anthony said like he's already played around. There now feels comfortable. He knows what to expect. He's teeing off later in the day and he settled it or you can look at it like this guy just played the round of his life at the Safeway open and it can only go down from there and now the pressure's on him and he's GonNa Choke so I don't know I don't I don't know what to expect. I just know that got shot today and we really didn't feel like we had a shot yesterday well well. Nobody thought that a shot yesterday you know and and Tony everybody wrong. I mean so let's see if he can do it again. There's going to be a lot of people out there that are cynical about this and saying listen Tony Romo and big spots when he was a quarter stop. Stop so now. He's got another shot over. Thank you realize how hard it is to do what he's doing that. We have called in the other day until Oughta know shot. There's no way and then all of a sudden here is to wonder tied for twenty second in the tournament. Yes I know I know how hard it is and that's why I really didn't think this. This was a realistic thing I me I didn't. I didn't believe we had a shot here of what we do. He's a hell of a Golfer Dude clearly. He is not like I played with a one handicapped the other day and it's it's really it's great to watch guys like that. He's inspiring me man. I got a cash in my three free lessons at bellport country club now see if I could say okay now. We're going this direction. That's right so it can be next year. It'll be mean you at Wing Foot together yeah together right. You could wear that outfit. You have on perfect imperfect of it. Chris how it's going on Chris Good Morning. Hey Hey guys I'm a giants fan so I gotta say this. You Know Romo has not been good in the clutch over his career here. We go come on Chris. I mean the you know. Don't you want us to go to Chicago or no. I I do but I got a bus. GEOS falls a little Chris you're right but hey he was a clutch yesterday to situations mad seventeenth and Eighteenth Bernie bogle those holes so why not why not get behind it and I tell oh you is. I wonder what like like. CBS like the thinking themselves. I can't believe this is actually like like who's thinking of that like I give put the name to it the the powers that be overpowers at bay the powers that be that they're saying all right. We're going to let Tony play in this thing. He's not gonNA make the cut. He's never made the cod odd. We'll just have boomer on standby. We'll do fine if the miracle happens here but like whatever it's not. GonNa that is right because nobody from corporates really called me out here like they're probably thinking that it's probably still not going to happen if you look at the odds like I gotTa do on conference call for the NFL. Today today right so I gotta do that now. You're going to be all like sulking on the NFL today if you can't if you don't go whatever whatever J. B. Same Old offers some highlights frigging desk gotch be at that game a you're not going to do that right like you're not going to be on the end like with your feet up like tweeting and stuff like mail it in totally on the NFL not GonNa Mail. Anything in the mail thing is because you wanted to be at the game. I'm I'm not a big meal and then attack time. You'd be like well. You know what Tony didn't notice was that it was a cover to on that particular place. I saw that from over here. No competent analysts told you what the defense was. I mean he's given us that. You are totally totally out of control this morning. You're out of control. It's Greg Greg. Get a hold of yourself. It's a football Friday. I could see that Tony Romo just shot two-under the Safeway open and we might be spending a weekend together in Chicago to see my football team. How could I not be out of control today. I mean everything just I could barely sleep last night. I was getting all this stuff out. I was getting all my viking stuff together. I was just thinking about it. I was Google restaurants and stop. I was like I wonder what hotel we're going to be staying. All I was thinking about all all last night. I got all that Hannibal no but I mean it just getting myself excited so I'm excited for you as I was. When I took out there two years ago I cody decker from swings and misses the radio DOT COM sports original. If you've listened to my show you know I've been talking a ton about hymns for him. Dot Com is a one stop shop for hair loss skin care and and sexual wellness for men. I've been taking for three weeks and I'm already seeing results. Jenner even mentioned quite frankly. My wife never mentioned how good I looked. Go to four. James Dot com slash swings. That's four Hymns F. O. R. H. I. M. S. dot com slash swings for him. Dot Com slash swings WCHS. Yeah that's right that's right but that was like a one day in and out thing taken you out like five years before that you did. Well actually like ten years ten years. There's Yeah No. It was two thousand two thousand eight two thousand nine so that was before. You were married historian long before I was married. I mean my my wife was in a sorority somewhere shift at the last minute. Give me crap that whole time. We were giving him grab well. I literally had a coverage shift with within like you know I will say. I don't know what's worse honestly going to a game with him to watch his vikings loose news or go to go to a game when I took Joe and Evan to the jet playoff game. Oh God yeah yes yeah in Indianapolis. Digest won that Game Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's right those two lunatics right. We're out of their minds and we love boomer. Thank you boomer to this day thanking Bouma for that but that so that first game that was insane that she took me to you know it's crazy so you took me to Aaron Rodgers. I start and you took me to Mitch. trubisky's starts kind of funny that I worked Arron Rogers. I started that would have I've been Arab Aaron Rodgers. I nine hundred ninety two dude Aaron Rodgers Aaron rodgers far Aaron Rodgers and tooth Monday night football all two thousand and eight. That's when you took that game out and Lamba that was the first time so producing Joe and Evan. I got my Steve Hutchinson Jersey on and then you an internal officer Joe Donovan because I'm producing Joe and Evan and I'm sitting in there and then you walk into the office eating Oreos and you go something like this we go. Hey do you want to go. We'll go where to the game so what game tonight Green Bay you want to go to the game and trump is now. No no no ah he's produced this show he he's just. GonNa leave now to gain. He's GonNa work the game no he's gotta WHO's GonNa Dove K. through it all and then Joe's you sitting down watching the whole thing you know nodding like he does. He's like Oh and then he goes mark. Are you freaking kidding me. You'RE NOT GONNA. Let this guy go to the game. Z's Dean is like once in a lifetime frigging experienced Bouma. Let them a Bra who cares. What is he doing anyway. It screens like Brian from Rockville Centre you know He. I takes a contest to win. Whatever you get a free get rang a Tang hang in there and do that love golden freaking games so then it was like back and forth authorizing and I'm watching these to battle it out so we'll just sitting in the doorway shoo-in figuring out here you WANNA go singing. All I'm in an escalade on twitter feed a great that you're on the field before the game. He's doing stuff. Oh yeah no I was on the field the to other parts of that stories when it was it was me you and Ron Gorski talking talking about quarterbacks on Lambeau field. Now you gotta remember. I'm like I mean my twenties. On producing jalen evidences agrees in the world and that's where on drawers key called Matt Leonard Entered The seaward Zach guys I believe yeah it was unbelievable and then of course the the best part of this. I've told this story too many times that I'll tell it again because I can't tell the story without this part of it. Oh God so we're leaving and and of course you got to do the show the next morning back at the studio and we're in this limo leaving lambeau field and we have to get to the airport to get you back in the morning. Show the next day and you are pissed at the traffic leaving Lambeau and you go every frigging time. We're here this place the design of this thing get with the Times get some people to figure this out. It takes US two hours to get out of this damn parking lot every time so MARV. Albert's in the Limo sitting there watching this because he called the game with you and see if he's calling a game goes boomer lashing out totally alleged greatest day of my life. This is the greatest thing ever. I still have pictures that I printed out from that day because back then you didn't have cell phone pictures so I I bought it. I bought a disposable camera like one of the things and it's taking pictures of everything and I print them out still got him somewhere. That was great. Joy are here. We are here. We are Tony Romo to make the same way open in two thousand and one thousand nine hundred a decade later Jesus Christ internally. Yes you're still back now. He's going to be refreshed for the now. What are you going to do. He doesn't deserve it. Why are you giving him anything. You don't spoil them all right. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo so yesterday I go to meet my buddy for dinner at Bob Evan's up there forty six or park greatest time of the year to be in midtown of all the UN knuckleheads traffic painting he's taking he was taking the train in and he ended up getting stuck in grand central station. It was a mad house there and so he's late so I go up to the bar and grabbed myself a Guinness and these two older gentlemen. They're just meeting for the you know they meet once a year these to work together went to college together okay and they the one guy was a huge shine fan so I just said you know because he thought I was Phil Simms so it was acting like Phil Simms uh-huh and I just said so. What do you think our new quarterback you know Daniel Jones the guy just beamed lit up like branching Jones sounds all of a sudden. It was like this is what this kid is done and this is a guy who you told me it was sixty eight years old. I believe and you know he's been a longtime. I am giant fan loves Eli Manning but couldn't believe what he was watching last week and how excited he was for this upcoming game against the Redskins pins and I kind of feel like most giant fans feel that way I mean it. It breathes new life into their fandom. I mean I don't think there is a an exaggeration Russian at all. I mean the giants went from one of the most boring teams in football with no shot there was looking at a top three pick to a team now that could get to two and two and could have one of the more exciting quarterbacks in football after what we saw last week and those are the facts and I don't think that's overstating it at all because what he did in that game was downright remarkable a couple and he's got another chance to do it. Here's a bad team and a bad defense at home you think about how he flipped the script on himself on this team on this franchise on. Dave gettleman in in one game. He's got to continue it but usually guys who have performances like that. Don't fall off the face of the Earth as they continue to get more exciting. He's look cool and he looked poisoning his breath letting yeah now. That was the beauty of it. You know so and obviously He created a spark now. The defense almost gave the game back and of course Sufi elbow but in past years that field goal would have been made now all of a sudden. Maybe there's just a little bit of a change and things are feeling a little bit different and things are gonNA to start breaking the giants way. Jerry is here is yet another update for us. What's happening Jaren brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. Nobody a Romo is the second into last group today. No twenty-five Eastern one twenty five visiting California eastern time on this is this is all not in California but I it says here all times eastern that I'm looking at on Golf Digest's DOT COM and it's a one in two thousand five twenty five four Tony Romo. They can't be right good. I'm telling you it is if the event is in California. I'm just has all times eastern here all right that doesn't mean it's right that having been said. What are you looking at what was on? PGA Tour Dot Com. I see I've got GOLF DIGEST DOT COM and it says Ti- Times all times e t and I got Tony Romo while you figure that out I do know he's the second to last group group though from what I just saw impeach now. So what the hell are we do with that then. We're GONNA have to wait till God knows win tonight. If that's right. You'd probably five six Soglo by six o'clock. You probably know you have a good idea. I would think that they will he will now is we're all the other scores for his and the and the group after after him right but if it's if it's like four twenty five t time then I think you'll know by six thirty ish I would think you'll have an idea like he if he struggles on the front front nine and goes the wrong way quickly of pretty good idea if he hangs it also depends where the cut line is if they go out there and light up and he's got a post a big number you might also quickly okay okay so we'll see somebody would tell me. I don't know I have no one that you know anything well. I mean I'm talking with the crew right or the people that are doing the game but like nobody from corporate is setting wanted you send an email. Hey homer here. You know what's happening fellas. What am I doing. What's going on. We're the contingency plans right well. Last night you had the eagles and packers open up week four in the NFL fourth quarter and the packers had a great chance as they were enclosed. They had four cracks at it. This is prior to the interception. This is one previous possession and they couldn't couldn't get in fourth and goal laws is back. He's lucky he's being chased. He's directing traffic. He finally fires it and it takes Graham Graham Brigadier Titan Merrill Reese on Eagles Radio. Four straight passes from the one no dice and then you move it ahead of the final minute the packers with one more chance at a second goal at the two. Rogers has been in the situation so so many times watters back pumps he fires in his set the eagles to let him out across again. Memories Eagles radio it was over thirty four twenty seven the final score as you get the pick their by Aaron Rodgers who by the way through four hundred twenty two yards couple touchdowns but that big pick Carson Wentz three touchdowns on the night and Jordan Howard couple of touchdowns on the ground go ahead ahead touchdown in the fourth also a twenty yard touchdown catch about that run game pretty good a run ball tonight grades our job easy so just trying to award all good with the Eagles. They went up twenty seven twenty. They went for two didn't get it reported. Wonder what Doug Peterson now now did. I like this yeah yeah okay. Don't ask the question well does. I'm just curious if there's a I always go up to go to autumn. Mr Now too yeah it gives you a little laugh there at the end because one would have put him up twenty eight twenty quantity. They tried to make it twenty nine. Twenty didn't work out but they win the game anyway. Here's Rogers what happened on the pitch. Probably I'm not sure if the handoff scores or not but I feel like with the end was at that I had a chance to move and maybe throw somebody Matt Atla floor asked why four straight passes on fourth and goal from the one and that one possession you know that's that's a great question. He says we almost ran at one third down. We called the old there was a play with a run pass option and Aaron you know he's he saw what he saw and he pulled the ball and then the defense reacted so he had to throw it away now. DEVANTE ADAMS had ten catches for one hundred eighty yards a new career high but he also left with what they're calling turf toe could sell them on while right. Most most likely is wide receiver. He's got a long week now right so who knows at Turf Toe man every so turf toe. I guess S. apparently ruined or ended. Jack Lambert's careers anytime someone at turf toe in those years. I spent Pittsburgh every Pittsburgh sports ruin. Jack Lambert's career like that was rescue a guy that has turf toe right now. There's another guy in the NFL. I don't know the answer that I'm not sure they could sideline will ruin Jack Layers currier every time you brought up turf toe. I I'm Jack Lambert Retired 'cause turf toe by the way you were right. Jerry that website I was looking at I was reading it correctly but it was dead wrong because is one twenty five Pacific time five our time and really screws us. He's playing with Michael Gillerman and Bo Hustler now. There's no picture next. They couldn't find one wrong. I thought the same thing I know. He's an amateur but it's Tony Romo actually go to Google images. You think of those images and put it in. Yes I know man. He's the only guy who doesn't have never I know saw Michael. Global thing hasn't picture next funny yeah so four twenty-five who've far yeah we're not leaving till like ten o'clock tonight. It's GONNA be rough. He makes the cut. You'll be on a plane about eleven. PM. I would think no no no no no no no no no what happens. PM when have you been APP is if something if we take off and then all of a sudden we find out that he doesn't make it. That's a lot of waste you know. Could you take off. You know what how could you take off before the game. I'll do the NFL today from Chicago. I'm sure that'll fly. Why not I mean they. They like toning dollars. Go Bang the drum amount there and Shannon Sharpe jumping from helicopters. I think you've been there so long. You should be able to make this call. That's true how you WanNa call the boss and I don't know honestly you really. They're we're going to inconvenience to make you wait around all day and then fly late late at night. Come on yes. Please just go out there. That's right you know what I can't it here. Peterborough right jet boom boom and then you're in Chicago by what one o'clock having lunch right and then see inhabits joe all day hang out and then by the way in and then if he doesn't make the cut you guys fly back ocasion Saturday if you want or like you said stay for the game and they foot the bill. I can't imagine just me gio go into Chicago meaning hanging out. I mean that's I. You know that's a bit much. We'll be there for anything but by the way I get you your own hotel room all really yes into king size beds next to one another sign off uh-huh sheets. You gotTA pull out yeah. You'd get the chair in the nightstand. Yeah probably but look at him. Look at look at him right now Jerry. Just look at you look. I'll tell you what I'm thinking with the temperature you keep the studio out. I gotta get me one of those hats warmest Thomas thing in the world it really is so but look at him. How disappointed would he be yeah. I know nobody disappointed like I've made this. Let's talk about this for a second or so. If we go out tonight yeah and he doesn't make We just hang out for a night and then fly back tomorrow. I guess so we ain't going to turn around on and fly right back or you mean you. Could you just get dinner in Chicago and then get back on as could dumb question yeah. Why would you not fly tomorrow morning if he makes the cut well because tomorrow. Martin warning is there's meetings with the teams what time while eight am on the lake forest with the bears. Geoana sleep through that or you can go fishing with his new buddy John the fishing with New People. Why not yeah that's right and that was dangerous? Dangerous Dangerous Guy told us to open the windows in case the ice cracked and we went through and take our seatbelts off. Take your seatbelts off. I'm opening up all the windows and the SUNROOF and you're GONNA freeze here for a second but if we go through the ice is how we're going to survive at least we can get out and say okay a great idea and then those little baby the little baby fish well yeah and then also were in this hot the these drunk guys that don't know anything about it could have very easily murder good whole minute. Tonka Lake Minnetonka go to Brian Brian and Save O'Brien. What's happening Gorna guys. I'm just getting pump for the weekend. You guys you know. I'm wondering though when's the pinstripe pills no coming out again. That's worth started. Yeah I know Brian. I think that we're probably the next shotgun. You're going to see a week from today at the brewery now now if we knew the Tony Romo was making the cut at some point this morning we'd probably shotgun to celebrate but no not not otherwise but yeah hope you're. GonNa come to the show show Brian or wants down the block from you. I got work man. I'm sorry I I work in Nassau County but I would. I would love to write O. Ryan's Yankee playoffs starred Brian. It's going to be a big bus many times. You listen all the time. I'm a good met fan. I'm sorry Yankee Playoffs. Do nothing formats formats okay. That's fine celebration. It's a celebration Brian. Jack Jack Owner Wisconsin the root for away yeah. We'll figure it out and get to that show. We'll you Geez about Ruben and Belleville Ruben what's happening. What's up guys say I got a great idea for you. You go to like Hope New Jersey your eye hanging out at the WHO. Many benefits swop hang on Bennigan's isn't Bennigan's where they give you the number magic boomer waiting with a number on his table. You know what we could do that and it would be the first time ever versus. Oh yeah the first time ever somebody's gone from a Houlihan's to a private jet took first time in history. That's happened like someone gets potato skins and a a Bennigan's and then hops on a private jet Jesus well. You know I'm going to have Kentucky Fried Chicken and all you know that's. That's a that's a home run. That's that's the best man quickly. Marlins beat the mets for two despite a really good start by Zack wheeler the we gave up a couple of home runs late Yankees and Texas tonight James Paxton Joe Palumbo the starters Yankees Troy Houston by two games to the best record in Baseball Astros lost in twelve to the angels four three twins beat the Tigers ten four. They hit their team three hundredth home run first first team to do that. Rangers beat the red sock seven five and got the controversy with Mike Minor and the two hundred strikeouts and just quickly as beat the Mariners White Sox shut out the Indians Oakland leads Tampa by a game. I WILD CARD IN THE AMERICAN LEAGUE CLEVELAND TRAILS TAMPA by two for the second one. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo. We saw oren the NFL guy started last night with the Eagles beating the packers some controversy in the game a targeting Paul Guy should have been injected it didn't happen of course the defensive pass interference at once reviewed by Matt Lauer Fleur that was not overturned and look textbook penalty if there is such a thing so we're going to have to deal with that now for the rest of the year the stupid pass interference challenged off but the packers go down first loss for them this year and the eagles sort of saved their season because they've got the toughest schedule in the NFL remaining and they were one and two and if they had dropped a one three would have been a big problem. Now there are some very interesting games on the slate in addition to the one that boomer and I will be attending after Tony Romo makes the cut at the Safeway Open which is the Vikings in the bears. We know about the giants and Redskins. We've been talking talking about it. I think we both liked the giants will be picking that game a little bit later but the excitement around Daniel Jones a cannot be quelled at this point but I'm gonNA throw out a couple full of fun games here this weekend. I'm going to give you theme with the Game A. G. O. Theme with the Game All right. Oh theme Geo theme and tell you tell me if you agree with the theme or not all right. I I wasn't going to toss Cleveland Baltimore. You'll deem. FEM- here is that Baltimore might not be on that level with Kansas. The city might not be on that level with New England but they're definitely above the level of where the Cleveland browns are the way the Cleveland Browns have played a home game for Baltimore. Freddie Kitchens has been really under fire this week and Baker Mayfield is not played. Well in his browns teams not looked good. I Love Baltimore and his game to you just stomp on the Cleveland browns. I'll take John Harbaugh over Freddie Kitchens every single day yeah and in Baltimore and Baltimore coming off the loss. seems like the the. Cleveland browns are like a powder keg yeah. It seems like you know it was interesting watching the all twenty two from the game last week with the Browns you know were fourth and nine and they ran away draw plays and on it was all on Baker Mayfield yeah he called the audible as opposed to running the play that was called right and Freddie Kitchens took the heat for that and should be commended for doing that but Baker Mayfield change the call bigger. Mayfield should come come out and say yeah. I changed the call right on the one who saw something. I'd change a call and you know what that just goes to show you is that he's inexperienced. He's only in his second. Year is probably what played twelve games or ten games whatever it is and he's got a lot to learn so it's all kind of coming together in Cleveland for the wrong. Reasons reasons Yup the inexperience head coach the inexperienced quarterback the diva wide receivers. You know the the undisciplined defense the whole thing thanks yeah and I really liked to Baltimore has played now. They didn't blow out the cardinals. I was a closer game than needs to be in the chiefs. Ran It up on him a little bit and I know they've got some injuries. Raise came back though in that game he I know they covered yeah. I just I just I don't know I love Baltimore. That's a great game anyway. It is all right another theme here here that Patrick Mahomes in Dome Against the Detroit Lions Spells Doom for alliance team that has played well to all in one there in the mix. Maybe a little bit of a tender as opposed to a contender and PAT mahomes no matter who he throws the ball to demarcus Robinson Sammy Watkins Gins the Nicole Kidman as you called Nicole Arben whoever is doesn't matter but Padma homes is GONNA put up. GAUDY numbers in Detroit forty five point. Yeah Gio theme I don't think can't sees defense. Is All that good to be honest with you. I think there are much improved if something's happening in Detroit it seems like they're starting to turn the corner under Matt Patricia. I could see this being a high scoring game but with Kansas City not covering what's the number it's six and a half six and a half telling me Kansas. He's not GonNa win by touchdown. DETROIT I I it's it's not the same Detroit I'm just telling you. I don't know man well. We haven't got to that point whether or not we're going to pick this game. I'm assuming we are picking this this game now. I don't think so. I'm sure it's a tough game the pick right yeah well not for me. It's not okay. Here's another one that's not a tough one for me to pick member last year when the dolphins got off to a big start and came out of nowhere and I think they won their first three games and they went in and beat the jets. Adam Gates was riding high and then they they played New England undefeated all watchhouse in the New England got off to a little bit tough start watch out the dolphins could steal division and then it was like ten thousand and nothing New England the Patriots. I feel like the same things happened this week with the bills and the New England Patriots New England going into Buffalo to take on the bills who were undefeated defeated. It's a seven point spread. I feel like New England's just gonNA crush them and like the bills might sneak in a wildcard but they're just not eighteen. It's going to be able to keep up with the Patriot. You kind of figure that Josh Allen may throw an interception or two in this game or for. I just just that. New England defense is too damn good. I'll tell you the buffalo defensive sneaky good though yes. I try and tying their coaches terrific. I love their coach. Yeah I do. I really do you know out of all the coaches that have gone head to head with Bill Belichick. I would tell you I think ballot check would probably have the most respect for him in this division well obviously this is Brian. Floors floors down there in Miami and I'm sure a lot of respect for him to but I think you would tell you that the buffalo bills are always prepared always play hard and always play solid defense and special teams yeah so I could be closer but I I don't see it. That game's another one. I think I do want to pick one more theme one for you one more thing big theme. We've got a big theme here the last theme is that the rams who still haven't been talked about as a as a team that is one of the Best S. teams in football bets still the DAF and still hasn't been right. I do like it was last year. This is what people are talking about. These people that you're talking about the confidence the sports pundits. I've got him ranked as the third best team in the League right. You're smart man okay. You wanted to sharp's your. NFL woke because they say yeah. I am woke. That's right. Tampa Bay is going to go out there flying into. La Get their asterisk smoked. I mean absolutely yes. Okay era with you there. So we agree on most of the themes I think most of them right and then I left out Minnesota and Chicago because as you know there's just a lot of stuff going on whereas there in nineteen thirty six throwback performances. This game stupid ass socks that they got on those things hey listen. Don't be insulting the barest now stupid asses need. I do not need that from you. Have you seen no socks. I've seen those socks except you seen yourself right now. Yeah it's fine ticket a good look at yourself. That's right. I'm happy making fun of anybody socks. I'm a fan fans can look ridiculous. Look at yourself in the Monitor senator. I know I've seen it all morning. Okay and I stand by this. Fans can look ridiculous the team out there. They're supposed to professional and that's supposed to look with the stupid ass socks all right. I mean it's a little controversy that is tied to these uniforms. Do you know that there's controversy yeah. The socks are making people puke. No no attack attack it has to do with the fact that these uniforms were used in nineteen thirty six in the NFL had not been integrated yet okay so that's the controversy so like these these racist uniforms or something like that yeah well. He can't be wearing racist uniform well. I mean you know they're just going back to their history. I mean you know I don't know what to tell you. I'm just saying I'm not saying. It's bothering me. I'm just saying it's bothering some folks out there. Okay all right yeah I don't. I don't necessarily see the direct correlation there. Just you know we've seen a lot of these throwback uniform with that. They didn't that acme packer uniforms. They wore the other night. Isn't that the same type of thing right right yes or no right. I mean we the the way that the owner is putting it out there. I think Virginia mccaskey is these are her words. we are a proud that this year is bears will be the first African Americans to wear these jerseys best. That's how they're spending this okay but it's like it's the hundredth anniversary of the NFL yes now. WE'RE GONNA go back a hundred years and say well. That's what she's saying that she's saying. We want to remember that team but we we also are happy that today's players will be wearing these jerseys for the first time. I mean it's just I. I don't know what the co I think you and Jim when I'm sitting behind the booths address that right at the top top yeah be like let's let's address these racist uniforms then we'll start calling the game variety think now now. I I think I think Miss mccaskey actually set at the right all right very good eats the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Gianotti boomer and Geo Jio Jerry really late last hour and I know he's got a bunch of good stuff. Let's get to old now. What's up Jerry Good Morning Greg. We are brought to you by the ray eighteen auto group hurry in for great offers during the Raycatena fall for luxury sales event array Katina infinity restore the baseball this hour. We did a lot of football so so far. Just we get to some of the clips we got the Yankees tonight will be in Texas on the Fan at seven twenty five James Paxton taking on Joe Palumbo Yankees trail Houston by two games for the best record in Baseball Astros losing to the angels in twelve last night four three that having been said they need the astros to lose all three over the weekend they need to win all all three because they can't end in a tie because of the tiebreaker so certainly looks like the Yankees will play the twins starting next Friday but still to be determined the Marlins is beat the mets for two and it was a crazy game because it was scoreless into the seventh and exact wheeler was that good and then wheeler helps himself out with an RBI single. They score another run on a sack Flyer thinking to nothing wheelers cruising except that they weren't you go to the eighth inning Tyler Hyneman with the game tying two run home after it looked like he was struck out and then Curtis granderson Anderson came up the one one on the way granderson hits one high in the air deep to Right Center Conforto back at this ball is going to go at it is gone into the Marlins marlins bullpen and right-center Field Curtis granderson with his twelve home run of the year and that's how we rose. WCBS eight eighty and then and in the ninth inning and Wendy came on and had windy as did what he has done so often this year and you can really tell how he's voice the one. Oh slider hit Tepe telephony field that goes Davis onto the track near the wall. It is gone and Edwin Diaz has given up another one. Uh when he got out of the inning he does you can imagine by however. Many people were there because they've seen enough in terms of wheeler really shaming laws but he didn't give up the two runs eight innings going into the eighth he was literally dominant but it doesn't work out for from ten strikeouts on the night he did think and you mentioned this before boomer. The hyneman was done prior to the homerun film had gastric out there but I guess guesses none of the day so I felt like a pitch really good tonight besides those two homers and right over the plate and argue with you and that should have been called the strike while was not called the strike and why somebody was an argument about it. I have no idea maybe it's just because these games now no longer matter. How about that. It's probably why I don't really like straight to the outside every night. So Rivera set to the outside the Balkans inside he drops. The ball is right. Okay play but what if you're in the DUGOUT. What does that look like. He drops the ball. What do you think yeah but you know if the empire it shouldn't even be worrying about where he said. He's not said I'm talking about arguing. It hit. I know but his his while they see it. They have a video in in the Douglas. Suppose oppose joke that I should have been out. He should have been but then again. You know if you're if you're if you're wheeler you got to bear down and you gotta get him out on the next you better than tyler. Heinemann hit his first home run right my wrong about that is the same guy who got assigned. Jacob degrom baseball the night before because I was as I hit breath and jake was like here kid. Here's a ball then tienanmen comes back hyneman strikes again at himself a good. Seri- any house the mets Louis Whatever they'll take on the braves tonight they'll see Dallas. Kaikal Marcus stroman will go for the mets then you had the rangers and Red Sox and we played we played. This earlier talked about this earlier. Mike minor getting two hundred strikeout so now I went back and watched the eighth inning how gays you're not forgetting. I changed my mind not through gazing. I say good for Mike Minor so I'm back and watch the eighth inning. You brought up the quote Chris Woodward. Yes about what the Red Sox were doing. In the eighth inning. His pitch account was very high. He was sitting on one ninety nine so they go out and they want ninety nine now. I'm sorry the strikeout numbers at cal was at one eighteen Gotcha Gotcha or visit eighteen something like that so here's Woodward he the Ronald Guzman the first baseman drops the pop up which would have been the second inning might have been the end of his day to you don't know and then he proceeds to strike out. Chris owings on the next pitch so here's Woodward obviously not thrilled. I didn't love the idea that we dropped the pop up at the end uh-huh but on the other side of that they swung it three pitches in a row in the eighth inning down by two and he means first pitch swinging yep now the middle battery who they were it was a good pitch the first batter and the last batter terrible like the third inning inside out on the first pitch. It was awful he just the point being. Is that Woodward Sam. Stay WanNa do that. You're going back out. There's no question there's only three pitches. It wasn't I think you throw a maybe a couple of Bosnian. At that point. They made it easy. He believes the Red Sox did not want to allow him to get his two hundredth strikeout and the core told them first pitch put the ball in play. Let's go well. How in the hell would they even be in tune with that. You know what I'm saying. It seemed like it was a big deal in the ballpark for them. Aw that's weird isn't that weird what he was thinking is strange and you're telling you guys sweet the first pitch like what pitches out of the strike. EXON and two of them were. I'm saying to pitches terrible that they swung it and put in play but they did put them employees. They did was a week ground ball. The first base and one was a weak little flair AARP pop making a mockery of the Game Jerry. Here's Chris Woodward asked about it and they say you don't love the draw. What are you thinking right when it hits. What's going through your mind there? You'd better that was what I was thinking. You're going to do that. You'd better strike them out and if not if you didn't strike him out probably would've taken out just because of the the way it looks. I don't like I talk about playing the game the right way all the time and it's that's kind of borderline crossing the line borderline you remember ever being part of a team that made a concerted effort to prevent event somebody from getting an individual record. Yeah me your own coach. Wasn't it the general manager at Arizona Cards. That's right not playing so we don't have to pay four hundred alright bunch of idiots not talking about your own team's trying to prevent the bonus. I'm talking about the other way around like can opponent and like all we have heard it is to say right it is do you have one like an example like all right. I don't know bengals or playing the steelers I I guarantee you. The bengals the cardinals you know that that that group of teams probably done it many times now. I I also know that there are managers that are aware of certain things that have players are able to accomplish late in the season. No get a bonus so the manager will try to help or the coach will try to help the player get that bonus and the player really does appreciate that there's no question about that that there may have been a bonus here attached to this who knows but the point being is Woodward's right. It is borderline. Oh absolutely there's no question about it and you know. Could you imagine if that game actually meant something something to either one of them. They wouldn't act like that would've act now these games now all because all become like spring training games all right not a spring being training game was Lambofield last night eagles and packers Green Bay jumps out to attend nothing lead in the eagles pretty much ran right past green bay and I mean on the ground a lot Jordan Howard eighty seven yards couple touchdowns also had the twenty yard touchdown catch miles sanders ran for seventy two yards and then you had the defense making the big play late now they made a goal line stand prior in the fourth quarter here late final minute packers got one more chance to get this game at least two with an extra the point of tying thirteenth play of the drive for green bay shotgun for Rogers two receivers right watches looks right throws pumped up in the air. The Twenty One Eagle Westwood one on the fan that sealed the deal ended the game he eagles wind up winning thirty four twenty seven to get back to two and two on the season for Green Bay their first loss of the season there now three and one Carson Wentz did throw for three scores in this game here was Aaron Rodgers did a lot of good things but at the end of the day when his score enough you know we just struggle in the red zone two field goals you know four passes onto onto one and then obviously the turnover the four passes falling incomplete from the one here was his head coach. Matt leflore played this earlier baffled by these subjective decisions with the rules. Yeah I really don't know what pass interferences anymore so I'll just leave it at that multiple plays and calls coming into question with that and replay reviews as well which is probably more more so the problem and then this when we played to earlier from NFL network this was Carson. Wentz always have like the player of the game on did Michael Irvin up there with Steve. Smith and others and wins was in the middle of an answer when the eagles fans literally took over. I think it was beneficial for us to be able to put those behind right now. Donovan here that at home if you're here eagles fans which is is about fifteen roles maybe more insane. Dallas Balanced Sucks Dallas as in super bowl championships bitches Cherry Michael Irvin try to fight each and every one of those guys or what he was pretty good. He was laughing. He was smiling through. What is he going to do. I mean he's staring right at them too. That's the other thing they have the stage pointing towards the fans good luck with that well at least it was was Dallas Dallas Dallas cowboys damage to do it in a way that you could actually air it which was good a couple of injury notes devante. Adams ten catches in the laws career high one hundred eighty yards but left with a toe injury. He told the media after the game it was turf. Toe Eagles quarterback of automatics and packers occurs running back Jamaal Williams taken off the field on stretchers and separate plays both teams announced that their players had movement in all extremities so that's at least the good news there on Sunday the giants face the Redskins ends here is Pat Shurmur member. We really didn't talk too much about it. It was mentioned but not too much Genaro. Jenkins got away with one last week because he gave a million yards. Mike Evans the big play as well. The giants wound up winning. Shurmur expects big game from Jenkins this weekend. We expect that when he's out there he's GonNa play at a high level which is done for a very long time. Even though last week wasn't great herbalists is two weeks in a row can't cover guys for seven seconds sure make that very clear out two weeks ago he did the case last week and in terms of saquon on Barkley's return we talked yesterday surgery not required or needed in terms of the timetable just rehab them. Give them ready to go see see how see how that plays out and hopefully for the giants sooner rather than later on quickly. You've got Lakers forward Kyle Kuzma out indefinitely with a stress reaction in his foot media day for the nets today the a new look nets out in Brooklyn and then I did this with warm up show between five forty five and six every morning the G. League will experiment with a new rule trips to the. I think this is true. I don't think I'm getting duped. stroking trips to the foul line will include only a single shot that will be worth one two or three points depending upon what the foul was they will then revert to traditional free throw rules for the final two minutes of regulation and overtime. This is in an effort to speed up the game. I mean the basketball games really feel like they take forever ever. I don't feel like ours out. What are they twelve quarters. I twelve minute quarters agreed. It doesn't make a hockey game. mm-hmm is what twenty minutes period it's an hour long right want to speed up the NBA and that goes so fast. It's ridiculous. Don't give them so many times soon. As the game down on the fourth imagine would come halftime. I mean think about that when it comes down to one shot have time for one free throw orange peels is sitting down anyway their phones as we've learned. We're we're on our test. Drink is KVASS. If I'm right. That's right didn't use to do that halftime. Aftab locker room all the time. He did it all right Jerry. Thank you very much. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo joining joining us right now to talk some football is mark may two time superbowl champion and outland trophy winner one of the Grade Panthers of all all time and he is here to remind us to get your flu shot for crying out loud. Don't mess around. Hashtag fight flew mark good morning. Thanks for being here. How are you terrific you how you doing. How about those vikings. You're a man so far so good and I can't wait to watch him in person and I hope that you'll be Tony Romo with me today. You the only thing about golf mark absolutely the think that Tony can do this to wonder at Safeway or we could. He do it again and make the cut well. He's got a feel for the course right. Obviously he's two under so I think he's got a pretty good shot at it. I think that boomers dragging along the Minnesota bears game. Just make sure you're a wallflower booth help everybody out in order utterly ridiculous. It is just the Banat control all morning this morning man. You look great man you've done. I haven't seen you in a lot seen on TV. Quite a bit you know doing all the college stuff and all that other stuff. Where are you living now. Mesa Arizona are so you are a big golfer. Yes wow I you know so you understand what Tony promos doing amazing what he's doing and the pressure that he's under to be in that position and you see a lot of former athletes that play other sports and try to play golf because you can play off your competitive. You know you can a scratch golfer but all of a sudden when you're playing with the big boys and they can make all those shots in your watching shots and curve the ball and put the ball where they wanna put the ball in your saying. Maybe this is not my game yeah but he's hanging right in there. You know it's the third time he's tried to do this and so on. CBS asked me to sit in his stead. If in fact he makes it you know they kind of came to me so you know if he makes it you know. I don't even think that they were very confident right. Then all of a sudden yesterday my phone blows up. I come off the golf course. I got like fifty seven messages so Jesse Tony Romo Z. Tony Romo Yeah and then of course this is what I wake up this morning. You're still getting texts from CBS going. I was only going to ten percent chance. The thing is for boomer. He's got to prepare for game. You've got to talk to anthony came to both man. It's like you know put sorry. We'll handle it. The big deal bigger check at the end of the week exactly now you were a part of two great. Washington redskin teams Super Bowl champion teams the current Washington Redskins team is is is a rough one one of the worst teams in football coming off an embarrassing Monday night game the giants get them at the right time with a brand new quarterback back. You know I when you look at the risks. We kinda thought that the offense was struggle but the defense had some players on their they bring it. Lyn Collins of course we know about Josh Norman. All Tie draft picks folks on that side of the ball what is wrong with their defense who just got a lot of holes everywhere. They have injuries at some certain positions but just not often. They've renovated the coaching staff last year. You look at this team. They are the second worst defense in the NFL scoring defense the only team that's worse than in the Miami Dolphins. We know what a dumpster fire there so the redskins are right behind him next to him and the thing is I look at Greg Geman Euskadi former teammate good coordinator justice with his team if you look at this team from top to bottom teams in the NFL was good news for giant fans here because you know Japan's. I'm fans obviously starting with Daniel Jones or now reinvigorated because they're young man's performance especially last week and I'm sure you were impressed as we all were with how he played What's the story. What do you think's going to happen with Dwayne Haskins. When do you think we see him for the the Redskins. If I was in charge of the Redskins I would throw them in the giants game if it gets out of reach in the third and fourth quarter to get him similar ups game snaps. I would not put him at against the Patriots the following game that's the number one rush defense defense in an impassioned defense in the NFL I wouldn't give them a taste of that. I give them the following week to start against Miami Dolphins and then just go from there because you gotta get him rupp's. He's the east the future the Washington redskins. They're not going to the playoffs there on three the Donnington on the next thirteen games so go ahead and get him his reps. Get Him in there because you look at the young players that are playing today. They're getting erupts. Collar Murray's plane Daniel Jones is point. Get those kids. Lamar Jackson played fled last year Baker Mayfield play last year. Josh Allen played last year Sam Darnold play eventually he will play just about when the right time or one time presents presents itself. You know interestingly enough. I came in after his rose bowl game last year. Remember the next morning I came out and said Gee. I know who the Jonah draft they half the draft Wayne Haskins his his performance was phenomenal. What was your take watching him at. Ohio state last year and do you think you'll be a good pro and does he seem the really want to become a good wpro. I think he was exceptional. How state but the thing is you look at the athletes that they have their cut about just about everyone that they play their big huge open windows news at Ohio State. He throws a great football football. He throws a great vertical ball when he gets the NFL news in the NFL now. He knows your tight you know that there are tired and college and he doesn't have the supporting cast in the NFL that he had in college. That's the key but I think down the road if they support him and surround them with some good players talented players. They need that one. They need to get healthy healthy on the offensive line and you get healthy on a permanent on the outside of the receivers prison tight ends. They don't have that right now. I would not put him in a bad situation like that against a good defense because I think mentally because he's only played one year at Ohio state as a starter. I think that would hurt him so I would wait. Be Patient. Take your time. I don't know if Jay GRUDEN's answering the future but I would make sure that he's being prepared the right way. Once he takes the field he has confidence and he's I've got confidence in the players around it boomer and Geo with Mark May in studio with us. Go Get your flu shot. Hashtag fight flew us here to raise the public awareness with the Foundation Foundation for Infectious Diseases and I'm guy has to get a flu shot and get it early on asthmatic. It's not fun to be sick when you've got asthma and if you're messing around and don't get your flu shot you are asking asking for something that you gotta go out there and get Daniel Jones. We cannot say enough good things about him. We sat here and watched a couple less years. Eli Manning and the giants one of the most boring teams in football football and just wasn't a fun watch he injected life and fun energy into that team so much so that we don't even talking about Saquon Barkley being out for possibly simply two months What was your take on that First Game Daniel Jones extremely impressed by what he was able to do without Saquon Barkley for the majority of the game and the way that he was able to direct the office and make make plays and not only make plays make plays with his feet and his arm? I extremely impressed in his decision making was right there when you watch them play. He looked like a rookie. He looks like a guy. That's been league three years mark. I I said this is my first start. As a rookie I was completely lost. I think I probably like eleven for like thirty. I five or something that I know I just kept looking for Chris Collins worth every five the big tall number eighty and just so the Baltimore hopefully catches it and that's why I think all of us reacted the way we did towards Santa Jones last weekend I would make an argument that that was the greatest single debut by a rookie quarterback in the history of the NFL well given what he had to do given how the game played itself out the place that he made without his running back and the fact that the defense almost gave it it up so I look back at that performance say man. That's one for the ages it definitely was and I was extremely impressed. I was glued to the television because I wanted to see because you saw them in preseason. We'll that carry over to the regular season. You know boomer. It's it's totally different what you go for preseason regular season and when I saw him step in there and take command of this offense. You just thought you looked. He looked like the young Eli manning I mean he really did he stands US hostile and his mannerisms and the way did he throws a football and I was extremely impressed because when you get a young player like that as an offensive lineman and you're looking at the quarterback he's the guy he's a general in the huddle. He's making the decision so you're looking to him. It was dropping a few bombs and said he had that in him. He's a Guiyang after getting his ass kicked into those years obviously as translator translated back to the NFL. I say this with you. Watch him in in college. He has all the same attributes that we see here is a pro but he was getting beat up pretty good especially against some of the ACC teams including clemson absolutely but he was always was there at the end of the game. All we still competing always playing. I think that's one of the things that Dave gettleman the GM saw him that he seemed to like and not only that he was by David Cliff if you look at cutlass record the quarterback seeds put the NFL not just the manning's but the other guys that are backups and you're you're you don't get the five stars. You don't get three stars. You don't get to SARS you can too smart kids that WanNa play football and want to go to do good education and he was able to groom this player without a lot of talent around him and that's why also impress on the giants graphs and Murli Alison players and that's a mistake. I'm saying it all depends twenty starts but would he plays. He's going to be ready because he was built to be ready because at Duke he didn't have a supporting cast. He got knocked around like boomer said he didn't have great athletes around him. He had to do it himself so we had to learn the hard way and that's one of the things that's great. It's almost like being a free agent in the NFL and making it you had to learn from the bottom up and that's what he didn't college and that's why I was confident he was going to make it in the NFL talking. I'M GONNA mark May on the fan in studio with boomer and Geo CBS sports network. I was fortunate enough to work on Pitt Panther radio broadcasts for a couple years in the years. I spent out in Pittsburgh and getting to know the history history of that program. One of the things that jumped out to me was the nineteen eighteen because it was player after player to player you jimbo covert Bill Bill Maas Hugh Green Dan Marino just blows your mind what was going on out to Froehlich is Ricky Jackson's Jason Randy McMillan one first round pick was running back on Defense Bill Nil Jerry Barsky you had Carlton Williamson is a defensive back even our even our kicker and Punter Day trout got drafted and played in USFL L. Seventeen guys off that graduating class play spoiler ski. Who was my teammates Cincinnati as unbelievable. I didn't realize that team yeah that was is that was maybe one of the Great all-time Teams in History College football real serious about it at the USC team with Anthony Munoz. Yes that team was unbelievable to a bunch of hall of a famous on that team and we had four guys on the offensive line get drafted to in the first round Jimbo myself Ross wanting to third-round. He's in the hall of fame. Ema Borys got drafted rough. He got drafted so we had a lot the talented offensive line Joe Morris or off line coach one of the best in college football history and thinking back. I asked coach once we went twenty two into our last twenty four games and and I said we didn't win a national championship he goes boy. I did a really bad job coach now with Marino blocking for him. I mean well first of all. This is what I WANNA. Ask You about Marino. You're seeing him slip in the draft. You know him better than anybody. You're like this is a mistake. Every team has passed on him. You probably going. This is a big mistake. We won the Super Bowl. I really really thought Bobby. Method are general manager. Put the word out that Danny was undrafted. He's not a good guy because he wanted him to follow us and he goes to the dolphins just before our pick and so think about it the super bowls that we on the run that we had nearly if we had Daniels according to super bowl the two first super the first Yusuf Joe Theismann Doug Williams and the third one the fourth when I was there but that was Mark Rubin so if we had Dan Marino at the quarterback position with receivers art monk guys like that the interesting thing would have been woody not been to Dan Marino the Don Shula allowed him to be in Washington and I think you know the didn't you guys open eighty four against them and didn't he like torch what you guys say we needed him. We had a hell of a lot easier. Absolutely we had a terrific think about Dan Marino with are running game even the hawks but this is the thing this is always the crux with him because Jimmy Johnson tried to bring a running game but it just never really worked and he didn't like it and I did that was a frustrating part of Danny's career. I'm sure but he was such a gifted thrower in the center of attention for those teams for so long that I just wonder if he ever got to a team like you guys the hogs and the counter trays and all that other stuff would it had been or look the same way. It wouldn't have looked the same way but it would have been. I'm better would have been more explosive on offense. How are you going to defend the running game that we have and with a quarterback can get rid of the ball like that. Throw it forty yards downfield on point and he was supplier that in college great runner Terrific Athlete Played Baseball draft's days grape it him before he hurt his knee. He was a heck of a player but I remember the first time that he came into training camp. Richter McConnell was the quarterback. We Love Rikki class. I practice Dan's like ZIP ZIP so we look around us. That's the guy great mark may yeah. You know it's interesting about Dan 'cause I. We may be seeing what will be or end up being the greatest statistical performance by any quarterback this year Patrick moms because he's off the charts but I go back to one thousand nine hundred four and that was Dan Jeremy started against you guys to me that is the greatest single season a quarterback ever put together simply because of the rules back then and he threw for over five thousand yards through what forty eight touchdowns or something and think about the way that defense was was played back then and he was extremely well coached don. Shula did a terrific job with him in support him some Greek players. I think that was the key but it's just that he knew that he had a gifted player in in probably a generational player Dan Marino. Let's get the most out of. Let's change your off. We're we're going to become a passing offense period and that's what they did. At that time. It was kind of unheard on yet. Dan fouts doing out in San Sandiego but in that time you didn't throw the ball as much as they throw the ball today. It was more of a running offense. Could you imagine playing with Patrick Mahomes. He's off the charts so you're an offensive offensive lineman. You Watch him play. What do you see I see a guy that it's not hard to block because you Kinda know where he's going to be most of the time but you'll have to hold your blocks because you never know where he's gotTa throw the ball but when he throws the ball on schedule and on time he's magnificent. He's a playmaker out of the pocket and not only on that the things that he does. It's you just just don't throw the ball back handed you. Just throw your opposite hand. You just don't throw no look back in the day you know class. Come on man. You're on the bench yeah. It completes them so it's just it's just he's. He's one of those players. He's fun to watch and I just hope he stays healthy the next decade because I wanNA watch them progress and get better under any read. I think you miss an an opportunity to hear you hear raising awareness. The flu shot in the flu. What about mono awareness because that's something I could have been yeah. I mean in all of your years of football. Had you ever ever heard of something like that. NFL player quarterback missing multiple weeks of mononucleosis never I've I've been around players in the early eighties players model but it wasn't a starting quarterback and it's one of we'll things where you just want to keep that player away from the rest of the team and I think in this situation Sam They WanNa do that. The the bad thing about Sam got an offense of coach offense coaches a head coach and you thought he'd make that progression this year offensively the would he finished the season last year but now it's kind of a step back and he's probably a lot of weight and then he's GonNa come back and get back to the system back. In the flow of things people are gonNA expect as soon as he comes back Bam Sam's back. We're going to start winning. It's going to be wild. It's GONNA be apart. I feel I feel bad for him because he's he's still a really young man yeah and and that's one of the reasons why I ended up getting mom sure but when when you talk about what you talk about Dwayne Haskins now play a lot of football was like Sam played a lot of football either no but the thing about Dwayne and Sam is you look at them. They're two different types of quarterback in my opinion. If you look at Sam Sam's GonNa be those guys. He's GonNa be writing system and fitness system with Dwayne. I think when things break down he's going to go into his own spear. Make different decisions and I think he's a bigger quarterback and most people think he's a he's more mobile than people think. He's not a four six guys like a four eight five but he's got good feet in the pocket. He's almost like Ben Rothlisberger. He's going to be able to move the ball around the pocket maker decisions throw the ball vertically and I'm just excited for the NFL because I can't remember remember a time the NFL. We've had so many good young quarterbacks that are started playing and playing. I love mark. It's a pleasure talking to you. Tell everybody before you leave wide so important to get that flu shot. Get your flu shots anywhere from six months to whatever get them every year each and every year and the reason why is millions of people get sick every season hundreds of thousands of people go go to the hospital because of the flu thousands to tens of thousand people die every year because of the flu the flu shots not one hundred percent efficient but it's your grace deterrent of not getting the flu. I got my a shot yesterday in Washington. DC get at each and every year and the thing is you go out in public and do these public events and and not only myself stained healthy. I don't want to give the flu to somebody else and catch a flu but I don't I wanna be in crowds and being an airport and travel and have somebody come and get a Selfie with Rahm around me and start hacking on me. I don't WanNa get the flu and I don't want to spread the flu so for me. It's kind of personal for me. I'll make sure my family protect it as much awesome. My friends are so go out and get the flu. Get it get it this fall. Get your flu shot and get your flu shot each and every and I gotTa tell you how much we appreciate that as a parent of a cystic fibrosis child we have been advocating the same thing that you have been advocating and one parent to another. I say thank you. I appreciate your good job. More was great to talk with awesome. Thank you very much. Thank you yes. Let's go. Did you just do what I think you excuse me. I've got friends in DC man. I can hook you up. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo by the way yeah sets. That's nice guests. Come in facing photo. That's right yeah and the next thing you start talking about doing some sightseeing in Chicago. It'd be a nice thing like if we have a picture for the show profile picture or something of ne-new at the the bean in Chicago the what the bean you've never Chicago. I have no idea what you're talking about John. You'RE GONNA go to Chicago. Go to bean you. Don't want to coach is used to tell us that we go on. The road is a business trip. this is not some some sort of man trip where we're going out and going to some Bachelor Party. This is like an actual business. I have to do business on working on Sunday sure yeah yeah and I'll share with you not going taking pictures and sightseeing and go into something called the bean in Chicago this will go right before dinner on Saturday me the US. Jim and we'll take a a three person Selfie at the bean. It's as simple up telling you this see how long has took me to go. Click one picture at the bean. It doesn't take long. Where is the being beans at Millennium Park whereas Millennium Park right in the middle of the city. That's right there whether likes to be in Chicago. I haven't really I haven't even lived. WE'RE GONNA special call here. Let's go to line to hello there. Yeah I'm here. It's you yeah no joke from the Bronx so you know I wanna know who that guy. Sitting next to you is boomer. I'll go out in the woods and hunting. They eat it for breakfast. Every Squirrel Phil from Jersey called in Jersey. Hey you guys yeah. Did I just hear when Y'all were showing highlights or your show. Did I hear Geo say I fashion. Did you say that I why do I always think man. That is a man. It's really up on the fast. I know fashion doesn't mean I'm wearing aw no you know whatever you really are. You actually really upset with me. boomer is trying to tell me that yes. I listen next time I see you. You and I are going to have a pillow fight vilified because that's the only think I can handle no of course. I'm not mad. They boomer playing well. I I did actually because I truly believe that. Also I did starts well. It's not it's I always sweat sweat sweat you the different but the last time I saw you smack me in the back of the head like really hard so it's just it when I do that that means. I really I'd like you know. It's one thing you know. I got some brothers. You know they're all I was getting ready to hell with it. The rednecks yeah I mean they walked by punch. You Go. Hey school boy hitting hurt. They don't understand around here because I kind of do the same thing with them. I get very physical with them when really I'm not trying to be physical. I'm just trying to beat their friends and show them how much I appreciate their friendship understand Jeez. My phone just went off. They don't understand that when you do that that means you like them exactly yeah that's it. That's it so you know. Hey Nice hat though thank you thank you thank you now. Are you paying attention to this. this round today from Tony's old they say you actually benefit from this as well because boomer would not be on the NFL today busting your chops the entire our aww man yeah you know the one thing I won't have to hear what is it boomer. Daddy's looking good today listen. It's a hundred percent. I've been on the shell. This is my third year. boomer walks in studio. He doesn't walk you know he's like a peacock struts and he goes. WHOA DAD is looking good today in his face. This is the money maker I don't boomer. Come look in your mirror because that's bench must be it. Must that'd be magic everyday. That makes you fall in love with yourself but you know. I don't know but hey I just we'll see about Romo talking to boomer last night. You know boomer. I just WanNa give you some heads. Fran Tarkenton doesn't start quarterback. uh. Jim McMahon is not playing in Chicago. It's just some things to keep you updated. Mike Ditka the coach there anymore. That's right. My Dick does not go to a cigar yeah go into production meeting with my Dick that was. That's a trait yeah yeah. It's a great thing is Mike Zimmer Matt Nagy that I don't already know I don't know Matt Nagy so that'll be interesting. I will say this. Jim Nance will save money on lozenges this week because he doc. I'll talk near as much as he's used to. Thank everybody just taking shots like open see. It's such a big damn target. Come on. Oh well you know but if you do go I know you're GonNa have fun and of course maybe we won't get as much on camera because you know how the show is. We won't but we're all camera. We're going to be killing. One hundred percent be okay great. Can I ask you a serious question for just one minute. Maybe okay w thoughts on what you saw from Daniel Jones last week it was everything that I saw him practice and everything Saul in the preseason football games none of it lied and you know and I and I tell people this look if you do it in practice and you can and at a consistent basis which he did you're gonNA take it to the field and he did and he was better than I expected the first start. I thought he had got a lot of tough situations. The offensive line did not want great for him. to things that surprised me. He got rid of the football so quick out of his hand Dan when he needed to and you know the old one two three progression that everybody talks about on TV come up boom. Let's be honest. Usually it's one two and then you get run over over right but he really was finding guys quickly from one side of the field and his movement. You know I do all these dump statistics on my own. I don't don't read but I thought move it like seven times where a big factor in the game for him quickly about last night's non pass interference call down the sideline. I knew it was going to work out great. IB obviously you know you're watching it and doesn't sound like you agree with what they No I don't know what you I. I don't know what you have to do to get it. I know they overturned some and give the pass interference call but my gosh that was was ridiculous and we sat in that I've heard some of the X. referees sitting in the booth all say that they don't think it's coming back next year and we we were at the seminar and I was sitting in my chair and how River Ron was talking. I just I said ago this is going to be it's going to be a disaster and let's let's see let's take a judgment call and get another judgment on it. Think of it that way and how's that working out so it's this'll be a one year my opinion on one year thing and gone which is good phillips great talking to you. I know you'll be rooting for Tony like I'm rooting for a lot more facetime a lot more words in on the NFL today but you know but listen I I asked to come in last week with boomer gets all mad at me. I said boomer come into show. It's a Monday because we don't want you. No no no no Yup. I I asked him twice. I don't know what he's talking about. We know you must have been having that to kill again. That's not true that is not. You're always welcome anytime you want to come in well I did. I not ask you on the set. I remember you ask any of this. Are you man. I'm telling you there's something wrong with the okay to get spiking. Should the last week in the studio and Daniel Jones was doing his thing. All man listen all the cameraman G. L. say this this you know. Of course everybody in there is a New Yorker and they always gripe but when Daniel Jones at the studio was going crazy all the we see. I told you this was picking number six. I heard the week one. Why did they pick Daniel Jones right. Exactly you need a pass rusher great. He was booed him so he overcame. It just like you did yeah and you know what. I got news for you. He's GonNa. We'll get boost somewhere here. You know 'cause along that's the way it is in the NFL but great start for him and listen the giants last thing there's there's. GonNa be no easy games and everybody's looking at the schedule. Well we got the giants. I think that's the game we can win and you. You don't think the Washington redskins think they don't match up well against the giants of course they do so. It'll be at the giants win. It'll be by the skin of their teeth this week so it'll be a good game about this Monday then when you come in and I got a couple of days well. It's what day is today. Give me a day or two to think about how all right very good. Go you call me Ma Sunday on the set or whatever you know dern whatever we're not and then I'll let you know perfect good. They'll call you from Chicago. bluebirds super seat come in boomer can't make it give me another chair. Please because God knows you know that chair. I'm just GONNA I say it. Just throw it out fan. He's been pumping Charles now. I wasn't going to say that it's okay. I have a good day. Seaman has all right. There's Phil Simms. You could see him on the NFL. Today is a pain in the ASS. No I'm glad you called nicely. I got a call him out from naturally they call all right. We are late here. Jerry's got a couple of things to tell you and then we gotta do our picks after that so let's jam it all in very very quick our brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. No body Thursday night football kicked off the week. eagles go into. Green Bay win a couple of big defensive stance in the fourth quarter including this one late final minute of play Green Bay in close looking for the tying score. A goal at the two Rogers has been at the situation relations so many times waters but we pump see fires in is intercepted the voice over and that's Merrill Reese on Eagles Radio Thirty four twenty seven the final scores. PHILLY keeps Green Bay out of the end zone in that fourth quarter in big spots. Jordan Howard ran for eighty seven yards couple of touchdowns. 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NOTHING TAMPA was off so Cleveland falls now two full games behind them for the second wildcard spot you got a race in the NFL central going between the brewers and the cardinals the brewers one game behind into the final weekend and the twins beat the Tigers in that Game Minnesota became the first team to three hundred home runs today's Media Day for the Brooklyn Nets and Lakers that's Ford Kyle Kuzma out indefinitely with stress reaction in his foot going quickly because I have a very lengthy moment of the day that I did not want to shorten so we'll deal with that moment of the day brought to you buy Resorts World Casino you know in Queens with over sixty five hundred games this. NYC roles right it's long and it has to be this will go back to the Asturia Days Greg than a producer producer wanting to go with boomer still a star to Green Bay Packers Vikings on Monday night football to get past the boss though I in Chernoff officer Joe and Evan because I'm producing Joe and Evan and I'm sitting in there and then you walk into the office eating Oreos and you go something like this we go. Hey you wanna ago. Go where to the game. So what game tonight Green Bay you want to go to the game and trump is now no no and now now. He's Kinda produced the show. He had you just GonNa leave now going to the game. He's GonNa work the game no he's gotTa. WHO's GonNa Dove K. through it all and Joe's you sitting here watching the whole thing you nodding like he does. He's like why and he goes mark. Are you freaking me. You're not going to let this guy go to the game disease. Once in a lifetime frigging experienced Bouma. Let them a brawl who cares. What is he doing anyway. It screens like Brian from Rockville Centre. You know I it takes a contest to win. Whatever you get a freaking rang Tang in that golden freaking games so it was like back and forth fourth while I'm watching these to battle it out you l. just sitting there in the doorway. Just figuring out here you WANNA go singing. All I'm in an escalade on there. You go moment of the day all right. Thanks Jerry all true right there. It's a true story. Ori Ten years ago. It's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Naughty boomer and Geo Foreign Jay on Fan. CBS Sports Take Network last week in the picks my first losing week on the year two and three Jerry three and two and boomer finished a five and a week two weeks ago came back with a foreign one week one nine out of ten. He still remains hot. He is in first place. I think I'm like either tied or a game up on Jerry for second second place but we're very very close. Bottom line is boomers blowing us away this year and today's football picks are brought to you by brother supply your number one source for ice air ptacs ax water source heat pumps and fan coils by REX real estate pay only two percent to sell your home and by prop swap Jerry. This is week week four. Where do we start game number. One we start with the Romo Ball. this is a game. You guys might be who knows boomer could be calling it. The Vikings in Chicago bears giving two points. I'm not sure if boomer can actually make this pick because it's supposed to be an objective football observer in Iraq. I'd rather not make all right. We'll move onto you. Guys can pick it nine. Just realized that now yeah so why don't I'll move on all right and then you give me another game at the end okay per game number two which is really game number one because game number one. We're scrapping until we come back to a game number one which became number five at the end so number one patriots on the road minus seven in buffalo but saying all morning this feels like last year when the dolphins were getting pumped doc and then they played the Patriots the Patriots Killed Him Alec the bills this year to grab wildcard but this is going to be a game where the Patriots show. Why are the best team in football banged up around around the offensive line of course doesn't matter they're going to win by more than seven op digging the bills to cover their at home. They got a good defense advance. Josh Allens and animal doesn't care what happens for the first three quarters again. He gets all pumped up to the fourth quarter. I think the bills and keep a close eye. I think the Patriots are win but I think the bells are sitting in the weeds just waiting and things have been easy for the Patriots thus far an MP that easy on Sunday patriots ruined my parlay Orla last week by putting a scrub any interception return for a touchdown not this week they went by double digits all take the pats game number two the chiefs on the road giving six and a half to the Lions Ryan's. I love the chiefs in this game. I Love Patrick mahomes indoors. The lions are one of these teams that cute start to Owen one but they're going to run into a real football football team here and they are going to get crushed pat mahomes throat for five touchdowns this weekend and this is going to be an easy one rocking chair chiefs cover. I just I can't imagine the chiefs not scoring less than thirty five points even if it's Pat Madman Patricia and defense and all that other stuff I should be a high scoring game. I'll take the chiefs to cover the number nothing else to be said chiefs too good. I'll take the chiefs clean sweep here. Three for three game number onto three will be the browns he's on the road in Baltimore the Ravens giving six and a half zone another one. I love absolutely love the Ravens in this game. The Cleveland Browns have have been bad this year not even mediocre. They've not been good. They have been bad if it wasn't into a run into the jets team in that week two game they they wouldn't have won a game all year they had Trevor Siemian and then Luke Falk and that's the only reason why they won. They didn't play that well in that game so Gimme. The Baltimore Ravens is to run away with this one. I think this is gonNA be Freddie. Kitchens hotseat even hotter after this one. You know what the browns are finding out you pay for or you you get what you pay for and they haven't paid a lot for their offensive. Line and take may build under siege. It feels like I think you'll be under siege in this game but this game aim has panic written all over for the Cleveland browns and because it's a division game I think they'll cover the number. I think the the the Ravens will win but I I think that the the the browns covered got game for no reason why I take the browns a chance to win in the final minutes. I love the six and a half. I'VE GOT CLEVELAND GAME number. Four you wanna Ed the other one before did the giant Sunday night game Dallas New Orleans with Dallas being a two and a half point favorite traveling to New Orleans super it own teddy bridgewater and impressive performance last week but I know Dallas has had no real opponents so far but Dan they've looked good and the defense by the way is not. GonNa let Alvin Kamara duty did last week. They're gonNA make Teddy Bridgewater beat them and I don't believe that he can and I think that the Dallas cowboys will win at least by a field goal. It's two and a half give give me the cowboys in this one all right so the cowboys have beaten the giants the Redskins in Miami Dolphins and I'm supposed to feel good about that like they look great. Teams are defenses ready says three of the worst defenses in football. They're going into play the saints in New Orleans the Orleans can play defense in New Orleans can play offense. Teddy Bridgewater is more than capable. They just came off of a huge win out in Seattle. Give me the point and I will take the dog in this case. The Saints Cowboys scored one hundred points in the first three games greatest team of all time. I'll take the cowboys final game Washington Brandin on the road against the giants giants giving up two and a half the two and a half just seals attorney. I love the giants three probably would have the giants at four but the fact that's two and a half is I mean the redskins coming off that Monday night disaster yeah. They'll score some points in case keenum's not going to turn the ball over five times. The giants defense is GonNa Struggle. Oh put at home Daniel Jones metlife stadium. The place is going to be crazy. Giants season ticket holders that had been wanting to see something like this but a longest damn time going to be going nuts giants role they get to two into and we have a football team around here for one you you. WanNa know something. One thing happened last week. In the last week's game for the giants against the buccaneers that are going to make that is going to make me pick the giants in this game and that is wide right right right so that tells me things have already changed and that means that this is usually one of these games of the giants who just lose it home of one of these ugly lead division games and the Redskins were coming here win now with the new found energy of Daniel Jones. I like to call them. EJ COMEBACK I'm taking him and they will cover the number to agree but I'll take the giants in a row J. Gruden's keycard might not work on Monday. Wow you got a coach fired already. Maybe yeah maybe is right.

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