21 Burst results for "Ron Hubbard"

"ron hubbard" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

01:37 min | 3 months ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on KTRH

"I'm joined by Mike render had a low everyone happy to be back. Yes. So we're about to embark on a new adventure. This podcast and this podcast is dedicated to Scientology. He's fair game, which is a policy written by L. Ron Hubbard in the fifties. Scientology claims it doesn't exist. These air the dirty tricks of Scientology, where they destroyed people, their enemies, their perceived enemies. Basically, it's what Mike anybody who says something that's the truth about Scientology. Yeah, that's right, Leah anybody that they perceive and described as an enemy and an enemy in Scientology terminology means Anyone that says things that we don't like anyone that ask questions that we don't like. And this doesn't mean that they have to be a Scientologist. Now, this could be a journalist doing a story you could have been abused by Scientologists went to the the's air All people who fall into the category of fair game If you do a welfare check on a family member, and you're not a Scientologist, you were fair game to Scientology. So what Scientology does is they just follow the policies written by L. Ron Hubbard under the fair game policy ofthe destroy, and that's what they've been doing for five decades. They continue to do it, and I think God that we have a forum to talk about this now in a way up to date minute to minute what Scientology's has been doing so well tell you the history of fair game. But also tell you about what's going on today what they're doing to people what they're doing to victims and to silence them from speaking..

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Chis Shelton, Social Science Blind Spot Regarding Cults?

Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

09:11 min | 8 months ago

Chis Shelton, Social Science Blind Spot Regarding Cults?

"Welcome to skeptical where we explore. Controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers thinkers and their critics. I'm your host. Alex occurs and as you may recall a couple of episodes back I had an interview with Ohio State. Comparative Religions Professor Doctor Shoe Urban and what I found particularly interesting in that interview is the rather strange way in my opinion that many academics deal with cults like scientology or is they sometimes like to refer to them new religions like scientology and as I explained in that episode. And as we'll talk about today I found that particularly strange in the case of scientology because as we explored in that interview we have direct provable links between Scientology and occult practices number one but also with CIA dabbling with extended consciousness with programs like M. K. Ultra MK often and even stargate. Which we've talked about a lot on this show so after the interview one of the things. I wanted to do was unpack. Both parts of that with someone who's actually experienced the reality of scientology and that led me to today's guests. Chris Shelton someone who at a very young age was indoctrinated into scientology through his parents. You know sometimes I think we forget how long scientologists been around. You know kind of multi generational so imagine as a very young kid. You know instead of going to Sunday's clear God to scientology you'd like somebody corralled you in off the streets of L. A. And took you into some hokey experiment. Like we always say this. Is Your parents go in there? And Say Hey. Maybe this is the way to go so Chris has gone on to create a very successful youtube channel. And a podcast called sensibly speaking where you regularly interviews experts on Cults Mind Control and other related topics that are important to people who found themselves in this rather unfortunate situation so Chris Welcome. Thank you very much for joining me. Welcome to skeptical. Thank you thanks for having me on so as I was pulling together that intro. I had in the back of my mind that you know there might be some places where you don't exactly agree with me and that's totally fine. You do kind of come from this critical thinker code word for atheist skeptic yet critical thinker. Ya. Yeah kind of tied to have a little thing about that. I just say that because I've dealt with so many blockade close-minded atheist who kind of we've this flag of critical thinking. Oh Gee like everyone else is ungrammatical your critical or does it. Everyone claim to be a critical thinker. I think they do. I think there's peatland scientology you know they'll give you real scientific explanation for what they did. But I don't WanNa get to kind of far afield here because I do want to serve that purpose of you were nice enough to look at the Hugh Urban interview you share. It can only get through about half of it. Alex does it got pretty hard and I understand that but I want to get to the big picture stuff of your bio in just back to you. Know what do you think when you hear an academic like that talking about these new religions like scientology? Yeah exactly they they specifically refer to them there was coined term new religious movement or NRM's and this is something that has been circulating in academic circles or the academic world for at least a decade. Now and this. I can't remember the name of the person who's brainchild that was but the the problem with describing high control authoritarian groups what people call cults destructive cults specifically. I've gone into great detail about that. In my channel is that it ignores the abusive aspect of these groups and the academics tend to shy away from in all the literature that I can find And I've read pretty extensively of it. In fact I even did an entire video series breaking down. A book called Scientology which was written entirely by academics. Who all come at it. From the viewpoint of scientology being a new religious movement that deserves religious freedom in recognition and analysis from a at a professional level. But who then proceed to merely regurgitate Scientology's promotional materials in their academic studies in papers. And this is what I take them to task for. Because if you're GONNA objectively look at a new religious movement call it a new religious movement then you better be able to back that with some evidence. 'cause we're talking studies now we're talking actual papers that are written by academics for academics. In the world of academia these are not popular works. These are not printed for the public at large so these are people who live in the world of having to publish or perish. Well it appears. Hold on kind of cut touch on a couple of different things that we need to pull apart. One is the the abuse you know? We need to talk about that. Can I back you up just a minute in? Have you talk about your bio just to agree off your so that people understand you know like I said I mean you're Kinda raise into this scientology thing? Of course. Sorry I just watched right into that but yes? I am a former scientologist of an years professionally. I worked for the Organization for twenty five of those years. I was raised in scientology before that. Was I count my scientology time? From the point that I was fifteen. I was actually raised with my parents got involved when I was four years old so I don't have a living memory outside of scientology I mean I you know I. I remember a couple of things before I was forty years old. But for the most part scientology's always been there. The concepts have always been there. The terminology of which there is a great deal has always been there. I was raised with these ideas so it was really not a whole lot different. My experience from I think being raised in any kind of what I would say is a strongly religious family. I it's not. Scientology is not a casual thing. My parents worked for the organization. They were deeply involved with it up until the late eighties. Bhagat out the nineties. I was then all in so then. I was the scientologist in the family. And they were. They had kind of both gone now but they drifted away and I stayed at and by this point I was in my twenties. I worked for the organization in Santa Barbara and then I moved down to Los Angeles and I joined. What's called the Sea Organ? See Organization when I was twenty five years old in nineteen ninety five and I moved down to Los Angeles and I worked for the Organization for seventeen years finally got out in two thousand the end of two thousand twelve and it was a year later after getting full exposure to the Internet uncensored which in the world of scientology and sea org the Internet is censored in the same way it censored in China. It's filtered you. You simply cannot access certain information and so I. There was a ton of information about scientology that I never had access to so when I left in two thousand twelve when I left the C. We're goes eight. I was still a believer in scientology within a year of being exposed. To all of the truth about scientology. And L Ron Hubbard. I was out and I was so out that I started speaking out publicly against it because I was so outraged about what I learned that the church labeled an enemy. I am now declared a suppressive person by the church scientology which means I'm not to be talked to or connected to or or in any way a correspondent with by scientologists. They completely shut me out of their life. I've lost friends. I lost people. I've known for over twenty years overnight because the Church said I'm an enemy. You can't talk to me more. And they all comply.

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Virtual Game 'Neopets' Turns 20

The Polygon Show

11:52 min | 1 year ago

Virtual Game 'Neopets' Turns 20

"Neo pets were virtual pets and in in fact perhaps the most popular virtual pets ever to have existed on the Internet. So obviously we talked about Tom. Gotschi in a previous episode. But that's a little bit different right because that's like a little virtual pet inside of a physical thing. These yaps only live on the Internet. Okay hold on a second so when you originally this it was sort of referring to earlier when you originally said that you were going to do neo pets I said Oh. It's those ones where it's a stuffed animal and you can connect to the Internet and they live on the Internet to But no no. You're very well weren't very wrong but you wear wrong. Those are web kipnes. That's web kipnes. Okay probably more fun to be honest. Just having on a computer seems like a downgrade. Oh Oh Russ you are so wrong. Okay we'll get into it so neo. Pets have been around for almost twenty years now. Yeah at one point. It was the most popular one one of the most popular websites on the Internet. One of the most visited huge advertising opportunity but That and several other things actually contributed needed to. It's sad downfall until we got to it now where it's a sort of twinkle in Miss Stall GIC millennials is but we'll go back to one thousand nine hundred nine when it began so neo pets started in the UK by a couple that was in college. Actually they were both college age Adam Powell and Donna Williams so adams like kind of studying marketing and Donna was into art and Adam when and made his own online online at agency so this was toward the end of college So throughout call to dating and then toward the end Adam went and made his own ad agency which is pretty smart but the thing is like they were making all these banner. Ads wasn't really doing a ton. A ton of numbers for him. So Adam and his girl Donna. They as everyone does does loved animals. They loved pets because who doesn't so they had a ton of pets. They're kicking around. They didn't have a ton of money but they had a ton of pets for super into into animals and one day Adam was like Yo Donna. I'm on the computer all day. Work in the terrible job making ads. Why don't I just make pets on the computer? Everyone loves pets. Wait what yeah. That's the leap that he made like. I feel like we're missing a few steps okay. Here's here's my guests because he's making ads right Did he maybe invent the punch. The monkey add nope if he loves animals. Why would he make the punch? The monkey add just saying like maybe that was the progenitor neo. Pets was like well. He's got this monkey already. I don't need to punch. Maybe I could feed them a banana. I mean it's very much like key worked in AD agency and had coding shooting experience. Like that was kind of where he came from a programmer he like obviously understood marketing to an extent but was more of like a coder programmer. Guy Guy also nine hundred ninety nine so this is this is after the rise and fall of Tamagotchi like was that at all and inspiration for him. Yeah there has been no mention of Tamagotchi in my my reading but okay yeah I mean it really just kind of boils down to Yo. Let's figure out a way to make money money. Let's make pets online. which is a weird moneymaking scheme but I guess again like maybe he didn't think of it but me thinking about it like Tamagotchi but without having to carry a stupid egg around pretty good? Yeah I mean it makes perfect sense to me again because everyone loves pets. So Adam and Donna Collab- d- But the thing is so adam like coded the website the actual site itself and then Donna was in charge of the graphic design because she's artists. The thing is in two thousand five Adam told wired. There's a really big piece on the pets which we will which I got a lot of Info from so we'll we'll come back to it but he said the Donna literally did not know how to draw which sort of lake issue when it's just the two of you and you hire her on your artist But maybe he came to learn this through working with her Because essentially Donna was tasked with making the pet cells which is kind of key here right like. That's the how the very first neo pets. Were not very cute. They were Kinda weird. Look in some of them. Were literally just like sprite spaced off actual things. There was this one that was like literally a picture like Ajay peg of this British comedian. And that was one of the pets. Selena peg of a human being and you and what did you do with this comedian So I mean the point was still like you could hang out with them them. Raise them feed them play. Was it like like who was it. Like a known comedian. No one I've ever heard of some kind of like niche. It was a very British enterprise so sort of like a British like comedian. Who'd never really wasn't like filler? Like a temp piece of art. Well when it went up on the site yeah it literally was one of the one of the first neo pets. He actually went on to inspire one of the actual Lake Neo pets. So people recognized because we thought he was very funny so anyway. Yeah the first neo pets for Kinda weird looking Adam and Donna Donna. Just kinda seemed like they were goofing around even though they tend to stake their livelihood on this little bit. Because as far as I can recall at this point atom basically was committed to doing the neo pets thing full-time because it turns out. They started like dumping the link on all these virtual pet sort of like link groups newsgroups back in the day and a lot of people were really into it. There was a huge virtual pet community already and I feel like okay. Okay so like thinking back There was like pets with Z.. In Yeah and feel and like I guess the Sims was before. I don't remember when this came out but like now I think that's out there. Is there like troll creature things creatures. Yeah features yeah creatures right. Yeah like Weird Alien Things Ya ya like a it was a thing. It was like a little period of time for gaming. Yeah and I mean like as we said Tamagotchi did do well for a while. They're so like clearly is interest in folk Ammann to write like this was right after Pok mon on people like cute animals you guys. I don't WanNa keep beating this into your heads. People like pets so neo pets even in this very primitive state did super well like literally they were like. Okay Yo. This is our job. Now we're just GONNA keep making this neo. Pets thing that people inexplicably are very into despite like are very low quality and price. Sorry I wanna go back really quick you said that they would just drop links in forums to to get people to figure out about it. Yeah like there. Are these virtual pet sort of like communities. You know you guys know better than me. There's like those sort of like newsletter a group Shannon's newsgroups so and then people would just click the links and be i. I WANNA take a peek at chew maintenance our work yeah yes they would all make pokemon punts. Yeah okay okay. Yes until they got banned by me me so anyway yes so neo. Pets was doing pretty well and it was just kind of not not super complicated quite yet uh-huh but then in two thousand the sky named Doug doering who owned the the during company. Which is this market research firm heard of neo pets which this was like killing it? Like you CH- They had some additional things they had like some basic games at this point. They had people. Even I don't even understand. What are people doing with the pets? Okay so essentially what neo. Pets is or was at that time and then we'll go into like what it ended up. Having more of his you have you can have up to four pets. There was like a limited selection of them. And did you pay for the pets for it was totally free free to play and you could. Yeah so you had like a limit of four and you'd go into like the create a pet center and you can choose which of the pets he wanted. You can choose. What color was you could name Eh choose its personality and then you would have to take care of it? Basically I mean. It's kind of like Tom. mcgauchie literally just like feed it or and like make sure it's Ian or whatever and you play games pretty I wouldn't like level up and grow not really so the other thing is you're trying they get neo points which will come back way. You're going you guys. which is the virtual currency? And you use Zack. To like buy additional items you can go take your neo pets too like but grooming parlour. Go to the vending machine by different kinds of food. The whole thing is like getting money to take care of your pet. It's essentially yes reality basically but yes so. That's sort of the premise S.. which was it had like a very obviously loop right? So you're like going on neo pets to take care of your new pet which requires you to make money and then you spend all your money on food. Whatever so a lot of people were spending hours and hours and hours within the first few months as little promotion as they were doing they had ten thousand users continues to grow? Oh and so yeah in two thousand this American Dude who was like in Glendale California. I believe was heard about neo pets and he was like dude. This is a really good idea. There's legit money ops. Here Ma Dude so doug doering came to Adam them in. Donna was like yeah I can help you guys. I run a market research firm and my my guru. Here's the thing. E was a huge huge scientologist. So he would reference l Ron Hubbard and dianetics as much as possible L. H. L. R. H.. So he with the power of l Ron behind him the power of Zeno or whatever He was the bad guy needs to the back. I don't I could not finish battlefield earth. I'm sorry but anyways with the power of dianetics guiding him he signed on a C. has CEO of Neo Jio Patsy bought neo pets INC him. Co and used his market research team which was already at the door and company and helps to seriously grow neo pets into this huge money making company And Yeah another side about the scientology thing is literally. There are some employees in two thousand five after they left the company when they went on record saying yeah. We were super uncomfortable with how often he was referencing. Rinsing Scientology in some employees said they saw like some actual like celebrity scientologists occasionally get towards the office. Oh Yeah Yeah. 'cause like especially when new was tight I guess like I don't know Tom Cruise. Maybe Little Surrey Neo Pets Travolta checking out. Oh Yeah

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"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

Behind the Bastards

01:49 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Oh, god. Oh, god. Okay. Plugs gear. Yeah. We both. He and I Michael Abe Edison, we have a, a little thing called small beans, which can see on on. We do videos and podcasts ourselves. And there's a bunch of other great podcasts on that, at work, you can access it from by going to patriot dot com slash small beans. And yeah, we're we're doing another show. I don't know. We said this last episode, I can't even remember. Oh, yeah. The double down in case you only wanted to hear about the last part of the last part of L Ron Hubbard's life. Yeah. We're launching a new show called off hours that is gonna be based, the whole production team. People used to work at a site called cracked and What was. was that? It was a napkin, fulfilment site. You know, they like refill towels and soap dispensers, but they also ran a web series. And similarly, a lot of people worked on that shore now working on our new show called off hours, which will involve four friends sitting around talking about pop culture. Stained, legally distinct and good. Antidote for behind the best. Yes, it gets you down. Come listen to some mindless bullshit, that we won't find out for twenty years was actually evil. Yeah. Move Euler is going, let's get that cultural dipstick. Well, everybody build a coke. All right. We. Sure shut us up. Okay, I'm leaving. Well, this has been mined, the bastards, I've been Robert Evans, my Twitter, Instagram at bastard. Pod website, find the best dot com T shirts T public. I've another podcast could happen here. It's sad..

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"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

Behind the Bastards

08:50 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Between. He's break dancing. Jack. They good at break dancing fucking. Really way too much instrumentals. Okay. Now so that we, we can't get in trouble with copyright concerns. Let's discuss linguistically. Yes. Lyrically musically 'cause you're both musicians. Yes. Yeah. You're raffish. Oh, yeah. You're rapids. You're part of cody's band, right? Yeah. Yeah. I consider it cody's ban. But I don't know that it is. It's more like guys just showing up in which may which makes you is qualified as L Ron Hubbard to talk about exactly. On the public record. I was kicked out of that band. No. That's true. Yes, he is. He is a prima Donna, we'll be listening to this episode, and I want him to record my version of the song. Once I get a cult gun. This cover song. I was in charge of cleaning the rehearsal rooms, and the guys with the white gloves were not pleased kick me out of there. Michael your thoughts on on. Thank you for listening in on L. Ron Hubbard's voice. Let's start with your thoughts on his voice Aibo already stole the like Abe gave me the image that stuck in my mind, which he it's like Barney, the dinosaur singing to kids, but instead of teaching them how to wash their hands. He's saying you're all living in a diluted fantasy world children soon you will get sick from this the understand. But. Two or also sounds like the guy in a barbershop quartet whose only there to hit the low note, and go. Yeah. And they're like the three other guys didn't show up. You gotta sing the middle and high. Not a shot of that guy that loan goes far. God, Abe, your thoughts mine would immediately to the instrumentation because it's, it's just it's Shelton. Something like from the get-go, it's the horns like you're saying, they're like, clearly, fake horns, someone got like my brother's Casio doing like French horn on. I bet they somehow fuck that up, though. They actually recorded because he had money. He had so much money. I've never heard of courting that probably was accorded on actual instruments, and because they're so bad at recording like their filmmaking. They're very similar. It sounds like a mini version, like mid as Michael, my favorite town is your favorite. It's, it's better than the regional versions. But I wish I or maybe it was. I mean if this was studio musicians he hired. Be on a fly on the wall clearly could have afforded it. I feel like he didn't just because he was so scared that everyone was trying to murder him secretly, the FBI, which is why he didn't just like hire a real production company to movie it had to be done in house by science, fifteen confinment guitar case, no musicians. Yeah. That every so many moments in this, this journey that where it's just I want to know what that guy who's just told. All right. So you have to learn how microphones work like I my last job was I worked at McDonnell. I was a heart surgeon like that's not it. Oh my area. Right. I've no clue out will it's going to have to be perfect or what he'll beat you. You wind up in the torture prison. Signed up and gave money for this. I do feel like killing myself after listening to it. Song song version of Excalibur. It's so weird to me that guy could who could manipulate the emotions of millions of people and strike. It something core in us, which is just like the hook to Scientology. Yeah. Your life is a mess, and they offer enough that seems believable at the base level that it hooks. Millions of people in and yet he doesn't understand tone. Like it's the bizarre, the lyrics are ominous. And the music is like Scientology is the soda that will finally refresh you like all of this. He doesn't like get how to manipulate people's emotions. And yet he does yet. He gets it. I will. I didn't wanna point out that he was only like pitch. He was pitchy a lot less than I expected. Yeah. Spit, you maybe one or once or twice he like, flubbed a note. But I mean he's got mediocre pipes. I'm saying today early mediocre to sound bad. I thought was that he cut. Yeah. Sounds like the melody lines like falling down the stairs. I know exactly what that is. It's called a noise gate and they probably had it. Because they don't know what's going on, anytime. The microphone is like there's no signal just cut. There's no kale bunch of lawyers in spice trying to work audio equipment, also gain was off on this track between every line, you'd hear them. Breathes in seventy one year old. Jessica. Cause any moment. Final call me the Commodore. Well, I think that's are legally mandated commentary over that fair Fair. use. You know what I have to say about fair use? I'm on I'm gonna I'm gonna Chuck my last Kleenex box. That's number ten baby. The floor is covered in throw in bagels and throw in boxes of Kleenex couple of torn up pieces of earlier scripts that I read earlier. What fun? I dropped the top of my water bottle on the ground. I wanted to help out. Thank you. We always leave it a mess, because I'm problem like L Ron Hubbard and once the show takes off enough. I will absolutely by a compound in southern. Yes. Enforce movies. Lead moviemaker. No, no, no, no, no, no. I will be highly boats. The navy bring into the coke. They'll be making the movies. I assume you started this show to have a big track record educate everyone on people way worse than stuff. You plan to do later, so they know it's not so bad or am I try to take it to the level I didn't finish wild wild country. But I'm on board with creating a Colt city in the middle of nowhere. See what your battlefield earth? Oh, yeah. I wanna know what you think happened right at the canyon in the universe. I listen how it relates to you interests. Yes. I wish we could get to just assemble make a movie based on their leave a beliefs, and then disassemble I want to see all of that. I wish all movies were made by colt's. Yes. Yes, They are. it is propaganda. All of it. Yeah. Or would said it's true. Yeah. Including this. Well, yeah. I mean, this is absolutely propaganda aimed at getting me a compound somewhere west and a religion get indoctrinated people. Yeah. With just a giant glowing the Reto Bendel. The turned glowing dorito building everyone at all. And, and. Turt- s-. Battles, right? That's your coat would be nice because if you fuck up the set Robert changes his mind he wanted a blue. Now he wants a green. He just throws a bagel your head. It could be worse. I will throw bagels hungry just eat the compound bagels, real rat problems. You got you five rat quota hardy met within three seven days. There. Carbs. These bagel fed rats are becoming too strong. Robert threatening to overtake somebody's been feeding them way. Gonna work it out. Severely swell nervous. Well, we found a dead rat with a bunch of puncture needles, and it's, it's the rat us. We have. A t shirt that says the Joe Rogan podcast..

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"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

Behind the Bastards

07:18 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Watch the verdict movie. Also, what a weird experience if you came into the room late, and everyone is dead. But there's one person and you're like you, you're not three allergy. And they're like, I know. So another thing that Ortega notes in his article about revolt in the stars. Is that John Travolta is still to this day expressing desire to make the movie into a major Hollywood production, which may mean that John Travolta's secretly wants to commit mass? Planetary, genocide at the very least knows that fact. Yeah. The idea that John Travolta's trying to wipe out all life on earth. That's not Scientology is now my favorite conspiracy theory. Right. Yeah. I also believe that now probably thanks to the popularity of this podcast. Some group of nerds who I will love forever. Forever. We'll find this and shoot it on their phones and send it to us you Basler the forty eight percent. Yeah, please, make the movie that kills every. Basically, he just thought of the ring the ring. But for everywhere everyone. Yeah. And just just as, as sort of future payment to whoever does shoot revolt in the stars. I'm gonna throw another box cleaner write mazal tov, number three. That's a Scientology thing, right? Yep. I think so or take apparently read through the script for a volt among the stars, which I think you can find if you really look for it, and he summed up its plot this way. Quote in the script Hubbard wrote from the movie, the character rawal clearly based on Hubbard himself takes on the might of various two-dimensional characters with single cylinder names Chee in men who have wandered out of an episode of flash. Gordon, the screenplay apparently ends on these lines as the evil Z newest strapped into a prison inside of one of the volcanoes. He previously bombed to murder space ghost's wedding. His dry cracked lips. Zanu looked up at the doctor some terror showing his glazed eyes, these devices, keep wanna live forever. Don't talk snap. The doctor a guard stepped forward don't talk to the prisoner. Despairing Zanu rolled his eyes how long. Has forever. No one answered no one knew. Yeah. What? For you can talking about. I mean it sounds like I've been to film school. There's there's quite a bit of scripts that are suspicious of this type of writing away. When you're movie revolt among the stars comes out everyone's going to refer to it as rats so good with that. Hubbard's dream was to make movie himself, an ad George. Lucas to his list of accomplishments alongside aviation pioneer treasure hunter, prophet and surprisingly good at sex, this gradually expanded into a desire to add a whole film production wing to the church of Scientology, the Senate org. A ten acre ranch around the to was purchased code-named Monroe and turned into housing for the production staff for L Ron Hubbard's, new film company slash Colt. The studio was built on a one hundred and forty acre grapefruit farm that the church also purchased. How do you give notes? When you're in like everyone acting in and producing it as onset, there are no notes do what he tells you. Anything? Sets a little a little Godley right now. That's suppressive dude very bears kills everyone, though. Like, does the screenplay just like paralyzed them? Or is it the like what stage is the magic like kill yourself? All of these people are OT three so they can do they can do whatever they lied. Bet his plan was to do the opposite. Let the movie come out no one dies. And then say see you're all Scientologists. He don't even know it. And you gotta pay me forty chess. I see. Now. Yeah. So they, they, they by several different giant ranches to add to the already giant ranch, and turned into a film production. Studio. Now, according to the book, bare faced messiah, quote lights Dali's cameras in a vast range of technical equipment were all moved into the new studio. Hubbard took to wearing a cowboy hat suspenders abandoned, which he imagined gave him an artistic men appropriate directs the Senate org was to cut its teeth making simple promotional films illustrating, various situations in which Scientology could be used beneficially Hubbard wrote all the scripts in new exactly what he wanted constantly biting into a Rog grapefruit. He cares at all. L throwing grapefruits. Right now. He is hunter would be shooting at people hundred. Yeah, but he's, he's using cameras so Hubbard knew what he wanted. But found out that it was it's really hard to make movies like it's kind of difficult to do. And so his first productions did not go. Well, now some of this had to do with the fact that the random assortment of people who'd found the church of Scientology compelling did not all possess, the incredibly specific technical know how necessary to make some homes. Now, I want to note that this had been true of L, Ron Hubbard's navy, too, and they'd sort of faked it until they made it. But it turns out that the same strategy does not work with moviemaking thus answering forever. The age old question. Is it harder to captain a boat or man a boom, Mike? Tarted amana. Boom, Mike Hanley easier easier to get random people to be part of a navy. Well, there's no because you can drop depth charges and say you hit something. Yeah. That's fine. When you're shooting, a movie, if you don't get the scene, it's not an. To it and say this shitty sound. So the church put out a call to any members of the faith, who had even vaguely relevant experience in the film industry. The best they could do was a Dell and earning Hartwell championship ballroom, dancers who had taken a few courses. And we're told that the Senate or would be their path into the Scientology elite. They were not impressed upon their arrival to the Senate org. Ernie later recalled, I was absolutely shocked to see everyone renting around in shorts ragged clothes dirty and unkempt. They put us in a little three room shack on the edge of the ranch. We go inside and what a mess. The place was overrun with bugs and insects. Adele said quote the main thing I disliked was that when we first got there we were programmed on the lies. We had to tell if he ran into one of our friends, we had to tell a lie to them and say that we were just there for a vacation who were schooled on how to get away from process servers, FBI agents in any government officials or any policeman, who want anything to do with welcome to our production companies. Here's what you say to the. I bet just it being in California. There's a fair chance. Some of these people probably would have gone to film school, if they weren't broke from spending all their money on the church of science. They came from everywhere, though. Sure. Just moved them to like you had you had to go wherever you have all the money, send some people to film school. If you voices squashed out by L Ron Hubbard's making in apprai-. I wanna see these cult people's move. I Do. do. Oh, people's movies. You know what else I wanna see or at least listen to the fine products and services that have advertised on our show in or program? I love those I want to see him, but kind of fingers crossed my eyes and imagine. Yeah, our ads are randomly generated a lot of the time. So it is possible. The church of Scientology will advertise if so I'm actually fine with that, if they if they advertise on this episode totally down. I'm okay with it. I don't know if listening through all this, an ad for the church of Scientology makes you decide. You know what? Yes, this is really on this. But the ad really resonated. Yeah. All.

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08:03 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Redevelopment agency, though, plan requires use of not just property owned by the church, but it also every property in three block by four, block area that encompasses all of downtown, the plan involves attracting a few major retail brands and then filling open spaces with handpicked businesses similar do an outdoor mall. The proposal will give the church total control over the downtown area in regards to development and management of properties, the churches redevelopment plan has not yet been made public, nor will it be subject to a vote. Cool. Why do you need that? Like what I don't understand what area there. He's like this church is important to me. I made trillions of dollars but I need area control, let's area control. Well, I wanted to side if there's a spirals or you know, an old spaghetti factory there, and this is wanted to be what I wanted to be. This is who gives a shit, dude. This is the decision of his predecessor. For run Hubbard taking over this town, which the church controls like forty years later today. This was like a two week project for him. Right. Like he was he was there for like a month or so L Ron Hubbard himself and ever spent more than a couple of days actually inside the city limits of Clearwater, like they still control this, and it was just sort of vague plan of his for a couple of weeks before he moved up to Georgetown tau. I like it take it with these mitzvah figures. Yeah. Like the entire sea org is just like whatever he said, what, what beautiful drippings came out of his horrible, Ma we need to make that or religion because there's only so much that he said I mean, he said a lot, but it's like there's still people in Clearwater, who have to deal with the consequences of L Ron Hubbard's passing fancy every day. Why, I guess we have to justify this shit house kinda wanna go there now because I didn't know there existed, like a company town for holiday. Yeah. They're sure I got. Imagine because they're fricken annoying to be around. They must have pushed out anyone who had an easy opportunity to leave or felt like so by now forty years later, I just want to go to a town where you're like ninety percent. Certain everyone around you is a scientologist that all the time for another person gawking dollars. You wonder I wonder if there's ever at the time, like, like he would listen to music, or like it was really into stand up comedian, and would like, watch it and stuff. And then everyone was like, I guess that's another God. Amongst us. I you get the feeling from L Ron Hubbard that he did not consume a lot of other people's media. Right. Sure. It's probably true. Yeah, we will be talking about Star Wars a little bit in the next. It was. I can't wait. This is going to be. It is going to be great. But I you know what else is going to be great? What is y'all plug in your plug Ables? Yeah, we're in the PISA on these to the bassoon. I thought that's the pizza zone. What's the cookie with? That's a position key is the peas. And we'll blast you with the Zucca full position Ke's. All right. Guys, we have things we do throwing bagels around the table shell man, he's you run to the bagels now. My Societa here and I have a little outfit called small beans. Podcasting network and is about to branch into web video. And I think it's very important that you find out more about that patriot dot com slash small beans, or on the small beans YouTube channel. 'cause we were right now in the process of producing a little show where for friends sit around analyzing pop culture, accompanied by 'lustration 's and clip packages, and there's a good chance that a lot of your audience likes that show because it feels familiar to that exciting. This sounds familiar to another show that I know you were on the past. It's unlike any other. This is the launch of illegally distinct show from all other shows. Lovely called. 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Behind the Bastards

05:30 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"The cart it away tens of thousands of documents, including the plans for project Normandy revealing the church's secret goal, to establish area control in the city of Clearwater, the resulting court case led to eleven Scientology. Including L Ron Hubbard's wife, Mary, sue being convicted and sentenced to up to five years in federal prison, L Ron Hubbard was named by. The grand jury is an unindicted co-conspirator a term. We all know very well now but the cease files did not link him directly to any crimes, he maintained his innocence up until the very end according to the Justice department quote, the crime committed by these defendants is if a breadth and scope previously unheard of no business office desk, or file was safe from their snooping and prying. No individual or organization was free, from their despicable conspiratorial minds, the tools of their trade, were miniature transmitters lock picks secret codes forged credentials in any other device found necessary to carry out their conspiratorial schemes. By the way, it's worth noting, that, while this is happening at the height of the Cold War. The Soviet government never managed to infiltrate the United States in nearly as comprehensive were extensive, fashions and the church of Scientology did it seems like they should have been trying to infiltrate the church asides talked that the really are making progress. Yeah, they it now, those are the facts of the case is they exist in reality. They are not the facts of the cases admitted by the church of Scientology in the immediate aftermath of the raid. They accused the FBI of Gestapo, like brutality, which would be true, if the stop handed out five year sentences for massive and sweeping the procreation of Third Reich rather than just shooting people. They had crowbars. The stand league builds itself as an advocacy group of Scientologists fighting bigotry against their religion. The name is an acronym for Scientologists taking action against discrimination. You have to use the in against for the acronym, which isn't great acronym. We all we all cut corners now and again or use expired throwing bagels like nobody's perfect. I found an article published on the stand league's website about the Snow White program. Here's how they described the Snow White program. I of the program written by Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard in nineteen seventy three for the purpose of legally correcting and expunging the plethora of false. Government reports about the church of Scientology, its leaders and members through strictly legal means it's a big tip for legal twice. Yeah. PS. Yes. Legal about. About legal and think of me the Stanley asserts that Ron Hubbard did not remotely contemplate anything illegal. Of course, not who've Amos law follower, L Ron Hubbard. Who's his legal this guy? I gotta get back on my boat. Now, I'm going to kidnap my baby again. My wife, oh damn it sucks. House. She sucks. Yeah. Yeah. That's rough. Now it is impossible to disprove that to a point of certainty, which is why out on Hubbard himself was never convicted of anything, but I want to emphasize, this come the fuck on. We all know all of this is known information. It's true. Now, we're not done with the story of L Ron Hubbard yet, and in our next episode which I'm very excited for we're going to talk about the last phase of his life where he became an author filmmaker into singer. Hell, yeah. Hell, yet, you believe L R H has this much. So in the tank. Battlefield earth. Oh, yeah. Oh, buddy, does it involve battlefield. What did you see treat at the end sill many people come on the show and at some point in the hour ago? Yeah. This has been really depressing. Thanks for having me. I feel like you've got all the sad stuff out of the way. I mean shit. But man, the next one's going to be a tree. It is going to be before we close this episode out. I'd like to talk a little bit more about the town of Clearwater, Florida. Now, the fort Harrison hotel was renamed by the church of Scientology to flag land base after renovations were finished. It became an is today, the chief training center for Scientologists studying the highest levels of whatever the hell Scientology is since nineteen Eighty-three Scientologists have died at flag base. One of those dead was a young woman named Lisa McPherson, who died of a blood clot caused by dehydration and bedrest after seventeen days locked in room. One seventy four of the former hotels. Josephus heaven was found dead in a bathtub in his room. The water was hot enough to have burned his skin off the official cause of death was drowning, but the corner noted that he was found with his head above the water line. Herbert Pfaff died of a seizure. In the hotel after he sees taking a seizure, medication in favor of a Scientology approved vitamin program, and this is the hotel from the shining. You're describing the situation. What they turn this building into room. One seventy four. Don't in nineteen Ninety-seven alone. The Clearwater police received one hundred sixty emergency calls from flag base at no point were they allowed to enter for most of Scientology history. The church was in constant arrears for failure to pay state and local property taxes, Scientology was brought to court numerous times by the city and the IRS for this. Luckily for the church, they eventually succeeded in having Scientology to clear a religion, which granted them tax exempt status the way they did. This was pretty fascinating. The basically bombarded, the IRS is an organization in individual IRS executives with lawsuits until they got their way. We'll probably talk about in the that and the tail in the later episode, according to a recent report in the Tampa Bay times, the church of Scientology, currently owns more than two hundred sixty million dollars in property in downtown Clearwater. Most of these buildings are empty, and undeveloped in many in Clearwater, blamed, the church for the fact that downtown Clearwater, has remained incredibly underdeveloped compared to downtown Saint Petersburg in Tampa. The church is able to exercise a huge amount of control over the city of Clearwater due to their. Ownership of much of its downtown area. And then economic power of their religion according to.

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Behind the Bastards

13:09 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Pyeho Chelsea handler. And I'm launching a brand new podcast with iheartradio called life will be the death of me. And I'm gonna talk to all these different people, my BFF Mary McCormack. That's what we should call. My book tour the apology, or great idea. Sorry. Everyone on this whole podcast should be called. It should be called with the orange because of the orange theme of the book Archie. Glad I went to therapy. Life will be the death of me with. Chelsea handler listening subscribe at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. L running my Hubbard's. I'm Robert Evans, this behind the bastards the podcast where we talk about the very worst people in all of history. In today's are super special conclusion episode of the life of L Ron Hubbard and with me today to talk about the last ten years of the craziest man in histories, life is Michael Swaine and Abe Edison. Thank you for having. I was making like, cheering and crowd sounds with my mouth. Oh, I it sounded mechanical. I didn't do a good job. I did that for every ten minutes to like, see about all the saliva from your mouth. No, no. You know what I do when I fucked something up like that, as I tossed my throw in bagels. Oh, you. Oh, I was aware of the throwing bagel trope. I thought they were individually thrown three pack three pack. Yeah. He's angry. And they bounced right off the wall and back to me. So I'm rearmed with my throw in big. We're also in a room with dozens of panels, you could have targeted you targeted one right by someone's head. Well, that's because the nature of the bounce means it won't hit Sophie, if I look forward to her left, it'll bounce right back to me. I'm an expert illiterate, keeping contained in the bag though. So you're vigilantism is at least kind I didn't to get those rooms every exactly like you're the get and rats and stuff. That's yeah. That's how you get rats. Yeah. And I don't want rats inside the house. I only want rats and the houses of my enemies. There's only the, the government acceptable level of rat in the studio. And I appreciate that which is five. Yeah. Same as peanut butter is why there's so many rats open being a butter from back when I heard peanut butter rescue their rat friends who are in the peanut butter. Jars. Yeah. See, I have five rats at home, too, and I'm like Aratu situation. I haven't seen that movie, but I think a guy cooks rats into food and serves them the people eating rats. Gratitude is correct. Well, I mean, the rent is too damn high really the rat now. Did y'all both? Listen to the three parter I did on the life of L, Ron Hubbard or L, R H. I did. Now I gotta ask before we before we get in were you surprised to learn that he in fact could fuck. Oh, I, I was ready to immediately answer. No to everything you said. Because I've done of like, he's not the most obscure bastard, you covered. No not. I've done my research. But yeah, that was the one detail found the one detail surprising. I, I also I was very pleased because I'm like it's not like he needed a win. No. You definitely didn't need a win kind of nailed it. But it's just kind of one of those, like, just one of those things that like life, just serves up to you like reality. Just says and circumstance. Yeah. Yes. Back tonight. Eliza like you. Find out Milton Berle had a foot long like why, but okay, I don't know if there's one thing that came across in that book of a thousand Milton Berle jokes. That as a kid fan, you just flashed me back to. I haven't thought of it in twenty years, and I remember thinking is a seven year old reading that. I bet this guy had a fucking salami that could knocked a head. Yeah. Well, it was a little child. Magic being it was dedicated to his testicles for all the way they bear as a kid. I just didn't think anything of that. Just seemed like a normal old comedian talking about balls speaking of old comedians talking about their balls or not speaking of that, at all. When we last left, L Ron Hubbard. He just come ashore in Florida after multiple years of shirking all the laws of land, and most of the laws of see old ill in his crazy as a cat with an inner ear infection Hubbard launched operation gold mine. This was his plan to create the mecca of Scientology, an entire city, dedicated to the religion, where Scientologists could rule one another and other people based on the enlightened principles of their glorious religion. Now, you guys are gonna build a mecca to your own personal religions where do you pick? Oh. Well, you got see this as an improv rule, you know, you're on the spot. I answer no censorship will came to mind was Portland, Oregon. No, that's a great place to have a call. That's where I play seeing you. But also because I've often that's been at the top of my list of other places to live. When I went, and if I leave LA but I also heard your episode about in part, the history of Portland. So I feel bad saying that I would put mine on top of mount Rushmore way better time to take more time to think in general on Rushmo question is would it be your face? Is your mecca in the shape of your face? It'd be whatever fucking just you frowning down on four president on my ongoing battle defeat. The president. That is what we know about it. Well, L Ron Hubbard was is. I think we've established the craziest man who ever lived. He's a contender in that. And as the craziest man who ever lived he picked the craziest state, and I say this as a Texan, nobody beats Horta in the in the crazy state lottery. So it's, it's got to be Florida. And of course, L Ron Hubbard pick the city of Clearwater, Florida now there was downside to this, which is that the site that L Ron Hubbard and his minions selected for their fates. New capital was already occupied by tens of thousands of people who are not Scientologists. So this was a problem but not an insurmountable one because L Ron Hubbard has had as as he had. You know most of our ladder. Oh, it's not a theory. No has oh he's bopping. Oh, he's still alive. I hope his head frozen in a jar. I'd like to see him one more act. I'd like to see him and Ted Williams had fight each other someday short just rolling around. It's one of those things where after everything we went through in the first three episodes. It's, it's shocking to me, how much gas this guy had left in this is only the last decade, right? This is the last, like ten years of his life home again. This is the game of thrones. Finale episode this is not the whole run. Most dictators, get a two part. Maybe a three part like L run up or is this is a FIFA partner on wait, there's more. Yeah. So Clearwater, Florida is located west of Tampa in north of Saint Petersburg, far edge of Florida's mid west coast, yet, it has a fine harbor, which was good because L Ron Hubbard still fancied himself a Commodore. And as you, you pointed out there, Michael the city's named Clearwater, made it a perfect fit with a run Hubbard's religious, canon. Of course, clear is the state of being like going clear. Yeah, yeah. The whole goal in the Scientology cannon in nineteen seventy five. I wanna disguised, L Ron Hubbard arrived with his retinue Clearwater, was a sleepy retirement community. It went by the nickname sparkling Clearwater, and a third of its hundred thousand citizens where over sixty five it was not a place that prided itself on hustle, and bustle, the town's, most prominent building was the old fort Harrison hotel, and increasingly decrepit monument to clear waters glory days. The hotel was empty and for sale in October. The southern land sales and Development Corporation purchased the old hotel. The local attorney who represented the buildings old owners called it one of the strangest transactions he'd ever seen the. Buildings new buyers had paid two point three million dollars in cash for the building. And the fact that they had two point three million in cash was literally all he knew about them. The buyers would not even admit to having a telephone number. Smell a gripped almost impressive. They didn't run afoul of Disney operatives buying land out from Florida residents expand any group like crazier and wealthier than the Disney version, this period of time. It's the church of Scientology. Now it's Disney. I mean we all have like humans have long history of just like if you get enough people and put them in a spot, you can declare that yours. Yeah. Which is exactly what I plan to do someday in Oregon people so that documentary wild wild country like that. That literally is my goal minus poisoning. That town, probably I saw the first. It's important. And I was like, it's kind of boring. They're not colty enough for my like the part of me that wants to watch, and everyone said something happened. So now I know they poisoned the town, get it. They always in the shit out of a tail. We're past spoiler range. I think they were kind of on the right anyway. Let's move on past town. Yeah, less than a week later. The southern land Development Corporation bought another of the city's landmarks, the Bank of Clearwater, building, they paid five hundred and fifty thousand dollars again in cash. Now residents started talking after this, and they talked even more when a strange old man in a green jumpsuit showed up in town and publicly announced that the southern land company would be leasing the buildings to a group called the United churches of Florida. He claimed that the United churches would host religious meetings, and seminars there now this perplexed local journalists, they could find no records anywhere of the United churches of Florida ever existing. This was because there was no United churches of Florida or southern land development company for that matter. Both organizations were, of course, fronts for the church of Scientology on December fifth L Ron Hubbard officially. Bounced project power three aka operation. Normandy I shave with that. That's really close to the grain. It's got these three blades. Yeah. Yeah. You say that with a full beard. Look, no one at this table shaves regular church, the literature, they handed me made me understand that I am clean shade him the Scientology razor works. This is just my sin coming out of my face. Oh, yeah. He's clear shave. I'm going to get it out at it away. Yet, your shaved on the inside, which is little, here's a little feet and it's all. Now, the purpose of operation Normandy was quote to fully investigate the Clearwater city county area so we can distinguish our friends from our enemies and handle is needed. Hubbard's overall plan to accomplish this was quote to locate opinion leaders. Then they're enemies, the dirt scandal vested interest crime of the enemies with overt data as much as possible, then turn this over to United churches, will approach the opinion leader and get his agreement to look into a specific subject, which will lead to the enemies crimes, United churches, then discovers the scandal, etc. And turns it over to the opinion leader for his use ops can be done as a follow up to remove or restrain the enemy, so wow, just gets right into it. How do we deal with our enemies that we're gonna make? That's his rule is to blackmail. So quick, like he doesn't like someone introduces you pointing him across the room at a party that, oh, yeah. That's my friend. L. Ron. He's got dirt on your down now, fast. Yeah. I mean he's like in his sixties at this point he's experienced he knows he doesn't pussy foot around. It's time to we're gonna make enemies. So we need a plan to destroy our mob boat has reached land begin discovering. Everyone's like, video games where you're supposed to like you have like offense and defense. And yet the power them both up. He's done this enough to know he's like, well, it's good to be a head of the on the Devon he's been playing for a long shot. Now, one of these enemies was a reporter for the Clearwater, sun named Mark sable men marketed sniffing around the church's operations in Clearwater, in revealed some evidence that suggested the United churches were really the church of Scientology, and so on January twenty sixth nineteen Seventy-six, a church official named Joe LIZA wrote up a scheme to get Mark fired, quote, have a woman, elderly go into the office into grief and miss emotion. Start screaming that she wants to see sable men's boss. She goes in and sees this man and screams and cries about sable men sexually assaulting her son, or grandson, the woman takes a magazine which is lured and perverted, and throws it into the face of the man woman, and screams, look what he gave my son, not to mention what the pervert did sob sob to my Johnny. I'm going to the police if you can't do something about that pervert saleman I will see that they do something to you. So your analyst reveals the very basic detail. But they're secretly buying up land. This is going. Yeah. One point in time sub sub to my Johnny literally how it's written. Yeah. Sub sub to my Sean. Any like a song you here at the Cobb, or like it's kind of like a like a greeting to sub. Sobbed magen. That should be your tap step aside. Janis up sobbing. Janis. There we go. Yeah. Throat later nineteen seventy five and early nineteen Seventy-six Clearwater flooded with young uniform Scientologists. They began renovating the church's new acquisitions downtown. Their presence was strange discomfiting for locals since the newcomers refused to answer questions on who they worked for, and what they were doing Hubbard himself supervised the construction efforts from five miles away in a condominium complex in the nearby town of doing it in during his visits into Clearwater. He posed as a photographer..

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Citation Needed

13:05 min | 1 year ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Citation Needed

"At the sky. What's next fail? Ron Tom what isn't in April of nineteen forty nine Hubbard began attempting to sell this shit stream of nonsense that would eventually become Dianetics writing several professional medical organizations to offer what he called his research, but of course, the random musings of a chronic failure are not research. Correct. Tom. That's a blog. Not in front of the cult. So he was rejected by everyone. And so he called his science fiction editor for help Campbell a sucker for new age, mumbo, jumbo cyanic bullshit, set Hubbard and Sara up with a place to live and along with a friend named Joseph winter. They began to test Hubbard's therapy techniques on science fiction fans recruited by Campbell and this is where the basic principles of Dianetics really began to take shape thus marking the most disappointing thing to come out of the science fiction genre until the Phantom Menace. Hubbard believed that half of your brain fucking perfect. It recorded in catalog never event and moment of your life, and all of your past lives, too. And that set of your brain could do. No wrong was basically just like doing Ritalin and coke. And Molly all the time, just high-octane performance, always, so remember kids, if you want your brain, working optimally citation needed recommends Ritalin, cocaine and MD constantly. At least two of us do, I promise you that? Saying it wouldn't work. All right. I, I need you to say it wouldn't work. Jordy. All right. But all that sounds great. But that is only half of your brain the other half was the reactive side of your brain. And that side asides a real peace ish. Get that site is why sometimes you try to sleep instead, you remember that time. You puked shit yourself simultaneous. Painting yourself Dianetics you had to recall, the root memory that was causing you the neuro SIS and through a process called auditing those bad memories or end grams could be robbed of their power, and thus you'd be made clear. So basically, what he did is he renamed some of the basic principles of talk therapy. And then you repackage them, but also claimed that those who were clear would be free of illness, as all nece was psychosomatic and this process could improve your accu-, cure, asthma Alzheimer's, the common, cold, you name it. All right. He might as well. Have called it on. Ally yourself in twelve easy. Let's be clear, 'cause he added abates L Ron Hubbard so he took something that existed in added a bunch of fucking insane. Like he says, like most of those psychoses come from memories you formed. Well, a fetus. Nothing. If not originally. Dinah was launched in may of nineteen fifty and it was a fucking immediate success. Lot minutes sold a lot of books nobody ever thought of thought so hard that they cared their asthma. Okay. Fair success that way. Anyway, by August Hubbard sold fifty five thousand copies of Dianetics despite the press the scientific and medical communities, all panning this fucking thing really hard scientific American wrote that in it were quote, more promises, unless evidence per page than any publication since the invention of writing. The new Republic called Dianetics, quote, a bold, and immodest mixture of complete nonsense, and perfectly reasonable commonsense, take it from long acknowledged findings and disguised and distorted by a crazy newly invented terminology. I loved it a book written entirely in gibberish is somehow supposed to lead you to clarity. Honestly, that's summary by the new Republic could replace like nine tenths of any bookstore self-help section. We'd say everyone. On just get a sticker. Nonetheless, the book found in each and the money began a flow in you see auditing wasn't free, and it wasn't fucking cheap auditor courses could cost upwards of five hundred dollars in short order Hubbard's fortune, was made at quickly, however, doubts about this nonsense emerged and Hubbard lost much of his credibility when in front of an audience of six thousand people, a demonstration of the power of the clear failed in grand fashion, supposedly clear, Sonya Bianca, who was supposed to have perfect recall failed in front of everyone to remember, a single physics formula despite majoring in the subject, and failed to remember the color of Hubbard's tie when he turned his back. Much of the audience turned, there's and walked out. No hawks tres testable claims are not your friend. Better than we didn't end. That's fair. All right. L Hubbard also began losing control of dynamics within its own community. So practitioners began combining Hubbard's ideas with a call to Nestle teric practices, and the organization was now in financial ruin as was Hubbard's marriage to Sarah. Oh, it started so strong. Hubbard he begun having an affair with a twenty year old PR assistant and Sarah was off an auditor named Mike Hollister in a fit of pique Hubbard attempted to get the FBI to break them up, turning them in his communist in writing that Sara was quote, currently intimate with communists. But evidently, under coercion drug addiction set in full of nineteen fifty nothing of this known to me until a few weeks ago, as for Hollister. He was described as having quote, a sharp chin, broad forehead, rather Slavic, unquote. That's that's great. The FBI did not take Hubbard seriously agent, annotated, his correspondence. With the comment appears mental peers. I love it. I love the FBI is like. Shit not want to arrest. People nineteen fifties Komi notes. Like this guy is so bad e can't be can't so someone out as a communist in the nineteen fifties. Without appearing crazy. Fails shit. You can't fail at he's trying to make his living with writing and he writes things so unbelievable that McCarthy's like. Yeah. Yeah. Now hubbard. Kidnapped Sarah, Anne moved or to San Bernardino, where he attempted to have her committed his insane that thankfully, did not work. So he kidnapped their daughter, any fled to Havana, Cuba. Sarah filed for divorce claiming that Hubbard was abusive, but Hubbard had their fucking daughters. So she finally relented and a couple, of course, but only after he made her sign a letter that he wrote absolving him of any wrongdoing to whom it may concern. It's not him. It's me. Also, for whatever it's worth, I think he'd make a great naval office. Life. I made me I mean me. Dianetics is on the brink of utter failure. But it was bailed out by a millionaire believer named Don per cell who agreed to bankroll another dynamics foundation, this partnership failed almost as soon as it began as Hubbard and pursell clashed over the future of dynamics Hubbard established Hubbard college and six weeks later married. In eighteen year old staff member they marry sue whip she would give birth to his second daughter days, mocking up ball, gag the second. Hubbard college pretty much immediately failed in Hubbard and Mary, sue moved to Phoenix. Where Hubbard established the Hubbard association of Scientologists international to promote the quote science of certainty is this guy is such a failure that he can barely find a way to cash in on already having been successful in have. Have. I run for president fuck so Scientology was created because hovered had uncovered new research that research being that he was going to have to get into the religion business, if he wanted to make some real money so he moved from self help to spirituality. All right now, we're not gonna get too deep into the weeds on Scientology was sticking mostly to L rod, but Scientology taught that quote the true self of a person was a faint, an immortal. I'm Nishit and potentially nip entity Fagan's, having created the material universe had forgotten their God like powers and become trapped in their physical bodies and Scientology aim to rehabilitate each person's self to restore its original capacities, and become once again and operating thing. A Hubbard insisted humanity was imperilled by the forces of aberration, which result of end grams carried by immoral feigns for billions of years audience, if you were smart use zoned out at Scientology taught. Yeah. Place. Yeah. Now hundred also introduced the emir at this point in an attempt to make Scientology seem more credible. I guess great job with that, right? Because when I think, either, I think credibility. All right now, the Eam eater is basically one third of a lie detector, which means it's one third as useful as something already completely fucking useless. The idea is that when you're being audited, you hold these big stupid metal cans, and meter bounces around. Detecting changes in the mass of your thoughts. What else let's not a metaphor, literal mass. Way auditors believe that they can tell if you're bullshitting, if there's more to the story than you're letting thought so be heavier. More. Hubbard also famously connected as stupid fucking immed-, or to a tomato claim the tomatoes screamed when you slice them. Don't have mass and the whole fucking ideas. Pa-past. Okay. Tomato is basically a juicy bagasse seats. Okay. Fucking purpose of tomato is to get the seeds outside of the fucking bag by opening. I don't disagree. But I love that. That's where you draw the line. She's. Become ridiculous. You know, that whole tomatoes stunt with somebody like fucking needle just bounces around no matter what you hope. And he was like, no. Oh fuck I guess that tomato. Shit happen when it was a kid prove it to you by hooking it up. Okay. Now virtually Hubbard Inc Scientology church. And now the Scientology franchises were branches of that church by nineteen fifty seven Hubbard was making the equivalent of two point two million dollars a year. Coli shitty was right in two hundred and twenty million words. I'm sorry, Tom. You said he made two point two million dollars a year. Okay. So here's the thing about feedings. It's not gonna happen. Anyway. Not, not if we don't try it won't have. Worth a try. Right. So for its part, the US government started to catch on this wasn't so much as a religion as it was a get very, very rich quick scheme. The FBI was keeping tabs on Hubbard and Scientology as many local police jurisdictions the IRS reversed. The tax exempt status of Scientology, noting that vast amounts of money were feeding not into the church and the community but to Hubbard himself and the FDA took issue with the false medical claims of Scientology, including seizing pills that were being sold as cures for radiation and requiring that they'd be labeled as utterly fucking worthless. He says, yeah, but Peter Popoff can say you get out of debt. Holy water as long as it's a magic. We allow we're good. We're good. Pop off hands the water to a Muslim person, and it's bullshit. You're under. It's a seeking to find a safe haven from both prosecution and persecution. Hubbard started the sea org. This is a fleet of three ships that he filled at the most dedicated Scientologists. He dressed himself in a navy style uniform and adopted language. Entitles borrowed from his navy days. Well, you might not know this boys, but that's just a fucking ruck, you idiot, as sailor lingo.

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03:29 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"And before that happened, he went to Rhodesia and basically promised to put a bunch of money into the local economy, and he wrote a new constitution for them than was meant to trick black people into thinking their votes mattered without actually letting the vote weirdly enough Rhodesia actually kicked him out. They didn't want anything to do with them. Oh, yeah. No, no, it's weird. You expect it to go even worse, but even the country of racists run by racists for racists. And it's still like a major in fire, right? White supremacist talking points today to talk about radio. They didn't want anything to do with outrun Hubbard. So I guess props to Rhodesia. Once he got back from Africa l. Ron Hubbard began to cook up a scheme to escape all his myriad legal troubles. One of his friends were called him saying, you know, John, we've got to do something about all this trouble. We're having with governments. There's a lot of high level research that still has to be done, and I wanna be able to get on with it without constant interference. Do you realize that seventy? Five percent of the earth's surface is completely free from the control of any government. That's where we could be free on the high seas. See back to the mode back to the boats, the high Caesar exactly where L, Ron Hubbard decided to go next quietly carefully. He and his minions embarked upon what he called the c. project. And we're going to hear about that see project on the next episode of behind the bastards. Refueling kaylin I feel great. I feel I, oh, man. I in vigor, am I scenes? Or the really charged up and my in grams or they're, they're disappear granting, oh, there go there, Instagram ING, but they on their way out. What did you have for breakfast and nineteen? Forty two. Because my many past lives, I definitely recall having some hotcakes putt cakes. Yeah, hotcakes well, I don't know what I'm trying to do. Plus you're speaking Instagram. You can follow me on Twitter and that was good. Thank you so much at Caitlyn Dante spelled c. IT l. a. n. you can listen to my podcast right here on how stuff works. It is called the Bechtel cast, and we talk about the portrayal of women in movies and yeah, follow us there at Bechtel Caspi he HDA. Oh, speaking of the portrayal of women in movies by Twitter is I right? Okay. You can find this podcast online at buying the best dot com. You can find us on Twitter at at bastards pot, Instagram too. So check us out. If you're an angry scientologist you can yell at me there. I'm sure I got something wrong about your religion because it's silly. That's the only religion. I'll say that about. Oh, I don't even know. No, I'm actually. Cool as hell. Yeah, it's really neat imagery. Sorry, I don't know why I've faked and insulted Zorro Asterix there. I've gone mad bleeding all of this. This is what happens two hours into the Ron Hubbard podcast. We insult Zorro Asterix for no reason, religion that never did anything. Oh, no, you're implicated now, and you're all implicated for listening and be implicated in our part three. Both. Hello friends. I'm Robert Evans, and if you'd like my show behind the bastards then I think you might like dumb people town. It's a story about dumb people about are the world's getting them every day and you know, stuff like burglars getting on board spaceships threesomes on public patio decks door to door, meat salesmen, crazy stuff like that. It's hosted by the Sklar brothers, Jason, and Randy Sklar along with a comedian. Daniel van Kirk who was on my show for the Hitler and the Nazis episode. So check out dumb people town. It's on itunes, Stitcher tune in Spotify wherever you listen to podcasts.

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03:42 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"We do not wish the United States to lose either the space race or the next war. The deciding factor in that race or that war may very well be lying in your hands at this moment and may depend on what is done with this letter. Courteously Ron Hubbard spoiler alert we did get into space without them. Have we know I've seen those staged moves. Let's see. I think the moon landing is staged, but I think it's because we really landed on Venus. Oh, that's an interesting theory. Okay. And that's where cell phones come from? Yes, the government doesn't want you know with that. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, back to L Ron Hubbard in January of nineteen sixty three. The FDA carried out a raid on the church of Scientology. They didn't get much. It seems like one of those things where they basically cooked up a bullshit reason because e meters were labeled improperly and we're like making health claims, they should make, but the using the excuse to send them like dozens of armed men and stuff to like raid a facility. It was like it was. It was an overreach of force. It seemed like they were expecting to find a cache of weapons or something crazy because this Colt seems so crazy and they didn't church of Scientology is probably more in the right than the FDA was although they were publishing misleading stuff. Yeah, the raids seems to have been kind of bullshit. Well, they read, you know, works from well. Is it Remington Winchester Colt in exactly. Got three good. The whole thing increased out on Hubbard sense of paranoia and persecution in nineteen sixty five Hubbard introduced ethics technology to his new faith, which included conditions that could be applied to people when they had ethical lapses. One member who worked in Hubbard's English manor is a Butler recalled. I was assigned a condition of emergency because I served him salmon for dinner. That was not quite fresh. I was shocked. You had to go through a whole formula, write it up and submitted with an application to be upgraded. Scientology develops new cadre of ethics officers who are basically secret police tasked with punishing the insufficiently dedicated disloyal different penalties, including a condition of liability could be imposed members in a condition of liability had to wear dirty gray rags on their arms. They also couldn't like bathe and stuff. It was gross church members who screwed up too badly. We're declared suppressive persons, these people Hubbard declared. We're fair game to be destroyed by any means necessary. Now, Australia had been a hotbed of scientologist activity, Australia. Okay. Yeah, Hubbard brag that it was going to be the first clear. Tenant. But in October of nineteen sixty five and Austrailian board of inquiry published a report on Scientology and they wholeheartedly condemned the Colt. So Australia basically kicked them out. They said, it seemed so silly that people would think it was harmless, but that is really fucking dangerous. Scientology's evil, its techniques, evil, its practice, a serious threat to the community medically, morally and socially, and it's adhered, sadly, deluded, and often mentally ill. Austrailia knows what is talking about. Yeah, and they ban him, they basically banned so or at least the state of Victoria basically banned Scientology and I hate to say it, but we owe a lot of that to Rupert Murdoch newspapers. He owned and he seems to have been personally involved in really pushing coverage of how crazy Scientology was which is responsible for starting the investigation which got it banned. He gave them their first nickname, which is also the only nickname aware of for them Bunka Malla. She didn't take off their Rupert Murdoch's, not graded naming things now, but credit to a monster. He was in the right this one time in the fucking sixties. England began to crack down more on Hubbard and Scientology as well with the US Australia and UK all clearly against him l. Ron Hubbard began to look for a new place to basis growing faith. His first instinct was Rhodesia you ever heard of Rhodesia I don't think so. I mean it's in Bob way. Now. Rhodesia is the name when a bunch of white people were ruling over the black majority. Pretty brutally. It was a very much an apartheid state. There's a civil war. The people in charge got overthrow..

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01:38 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Use Lysol San white yourself, clean your things away Satan's away. See Lysol got a freebie Doritos. Anyway, back back to the tail. So there's an awful lot of lunacy in Scientology. I'm not going to go into tremendous detail about all of the different crazy things. He said, because that could be a whole fucking ten part episode. Yeah, but it is important that you know it didn't all come together at once. You know, I think most people's understanding of Scientology's actual belief comes from that south park episode which did a pretty good job of summing it up, but he hadn't even invented all of this stuff yet everything about Zanu in that this was all added over time. It was definitely cobbled together. He did not just come out with suddenly this vision of how things had happened. Genius doesn't happen overnight. No, and neither do bullshit. Science fiction, short stories. The general, the story of Scientology's. The story of l. Ron Hubbard just making up things for seventy years and writing them down. And now people have to pay attention to him because it's a religion. Yeah, it's pretty great. He continuously expanded his claims of what Scientology could achieve in the book Scientology eight to eight thousand eight. I don't know what that's a reference to. He. Bragged with this book, the ability to make one's body older, young. At will the ability to heal the ill without physical contact, the ability to cure the insane and the incapacitated as set forth for the physician, the layman, the mathematician, and the physicist. So anyone can use the science to heal the sick weird that we still have sick. People shocking Scientology proved to be much better money making scheme than Dianetics had been Hubbard, moved to England and bought a gigantic manor house. He built facilities there and was soon making more than forty thousand dollars a week. Just at the English facility teaching auditors.

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03:54 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"He called the FBI to claim that miles Hollister the man. His wife was having an affair with was a communist as well as armed and dangerous. He made several calls in reports to the FBI trying to get them to murder his wife's new lover by claiming he was an armed and dangerous. Communist. Next L Ron Hubbard mill and his baby flew to Havana Cuba upward, put the baby in the care of two Jamaican women as soon as they arrived. We're also strange strangers strangers not with anybody who cares about it. No, no, no, no, no, no. It'll run Hubbard's not gonna spend any time with his baby. He spent the time in Cuba writing the draft of a sequel to his book on Dianetics and drinking huge quantities of rum. So he couldn't be taken care of baby then. No, he's to drink for several weeks straight and write a terrible book. Sarah did eventually file a writ with the a. superior court in the news picked up the exciting story that the founder of America's newest coat, psychological, fad, whatever had abducted his own child as a result around Hubbard had to write in letter to his. Estranged wife. So I'm going to read you that letter. Now this is to Sarah this to Sarah time, dear. Sarah, I've been in a Cuban military hospital, and I am being transferred to the United States next week as it classified scientists, immune from interference of all kinds. The white will be hospitalized. Probably a longtime. Alexis has getting excellent care. I see her every day. She is all I have to live for my wits never gave way under all you did and let them do, but my body didn't stand up. My right side is paralyzed and getting more. So I hope my heart lasts. I may live a long time and again, I may not, but Dianetics will last ten thousand years for the army and navy habit. Now my will is all changed. Alexis. We'll get a fortune unless she goes to you as she would then get nothing hope to see you once more goodbye. I love you Ron. More truth. Yeah, no. The truth, Alexis, his daughter who he's not taking care of an instant drinking rum. Yes. And we'll later deny is his child and tells her when she comes to him in adult that she was the illegitimate child of his wife and okay, I was gonna ask about because he has kids from his first marriage, Paula. Five or six kids. Wow. Yeah. One of them nibs I think was his nickname was with the coat for a while and then left changes last name to DeWolf. Hubbard's nephew, Jamie DeWolf does a lot of, I think he's like a motivational speaker and stuff. So number of his kids have become big anti Scientology, sort of voices. He didn't spend any time with them. So how could they have one of his kids committed suicide? Yeah, at least one. So Sarah filed for divorce in the court documents. She filed revealed horrific details from inside their relationship. According to her, at one point, Ronn told her they couldn't get a divorce because it would be bad for his reputation. She says that he told her, basically, you'll kill yourself. If you really love me because we can't get divorced because it's the fifties. She's, she also says that he regularly strangled her. She believed that he was insane and needed to be locked up in a mental asylum. Obviously she has a bias, but it's really hard to disagree with that statement. What a different world it would be. If somebody had given L Ron Hubbard the help he so desperately needed. Now, Hubbard flew back from Cuba around this time. He wound up living with a millionaire Dianetics enthusiasts named pursell who'd gotten rich through something else and just love Dianetics Bersell wound up, essentially taking over the business operations of Dianetics for awhile and fixing everything. Unfunny all the damage Hubbard had done to the structure of atomic profitable and for a while, Wichita Kansas becomes the the center of Dianetics research. Yeah, Wichita. So they're doing research? Not really. Yeah. Yes, yeah. I mean, no rights, a bunch of books about Dianetics try to sell them to people, teach classes, but now I'm only doing much real research when Sarah found out that Hubbard was in Wichita. She filed a petition asking to have his assets in Los Angeles placed into receivership. Hubbard responded by sending a letter to the department of Justice. He described himself as basically a scientist..

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Behind the Bastards

02:38 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"So once his wife was subdued in the back of the car, they drove to San Bernardino to try and find a midnight doctor who would declare Sarah legally insane. Unfortunately, and kind of shockingly he couldn't find one. Oh, which I think you probably would be able to find a doctor willing to do that in LA now. Yeah. If you had l. Ron Hubbard money, right? Apparently you couldn't back then that's encouraged kudos nineteen fifties, San Bernardino. Psychiatrists. You get a clear pass from behind the bastards eventually. He promised to tell his wife where she could find their daughter. If she signed a piece of paper claiming he had an abducted her just then. Wow. This guy, I'm starting to like him. It's just so consistent. Yeah, like it's just so shockingly consistently terrible. I'll tell you where our kid daughter is if you agree not to tell anyone that I just kidnapped you and strangled, you Claire. Claire, you insane. I mean, I gotta say nine hundred fifty one strangling probably wouldn't have got him in a much trouble. Probably it. It didn't. Sure. Didn't. He let her go after she signed the paper. But when she went to go find their baby Hubbard at already had the child moved. In fact, he'd hired a couple who were against strangers to drive the baby across the country. The baby's just an afterthought and no point is he focused on this kid. You couldn't matter less to him. Sarah Hubbard filed a kidnapping complaint with the LAPD, but they assume this was just a domestic dispute and decided not to get in the middle of things. So the LAPD hitting it out of the park in nineteen fifty one. Yeah, you guys don't get a pass psychiatrists of San Bernardino. Cool with you. Fuck the LAPD in nineteen fifty one LAPD today. If you want to sponsor the show, we can talk about it. In the meantime, while Sarah was trying to file a kidnapping complaint, L Ron Hubbard found a psychiatrist who was willing to diagnose him sane, which he had done just sort of a precautionary measure according to one of the men who helped and do all this Dianetics with the last name of de mille quote, he and I, I went to a psychiatrist who didn't like the smell of it. He obviously thought he was being manipulated. So we just paid him ten dollars in left. Then we went to a prominent diagnostic psychologist of that era who did some protective testing on Hubbard and produced an upbeat harmless report saying he was a creative individual upset by family problems and dissension and it was depressing his work and so forth. It was very bland, but Hubbard was delighted with it. The main value of it to him was that it didn't say he was crazy. So he could claim had been given a clean Bill of health by the psychiatric profession..

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Behind the Bastards

03:54 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Ron Hubbard would not have enjoyed the flavorful taste of Doritos. If if the torito's people get in touch with us, is that good? Okay. Let's get back to the story. So when we last left on Hubbard, he'd broken things off with his wife and his his mistress any it's nineteen fifty one. He tried to drug his followers, but it hasn't worked very well and later in nineteen fifty one, the New Jersey board of medical examiners started what would become a decades, long pattern of state, national agencies investigating l. Ron Hubbard activities. They accused his facility and Elizabeth of teaching medicine without a license, and they brought a suit against him in response Hubbard closed up shop because he knew he was going to lose any sort of legal battle because he was one hundred percent teaching medicine without a license and they left New Jersey. Everything he owned was shoved into the back of a black limousine and they drove to Los Angeles. Oddly enough, Greg Hemingway, youngest son of Ernest Hemingway was one of the Dianetics to pack. L. Ron Hubbard stuff, Greg, Greg, giving way she, it's weird because Ernest Hemingway sounds like an author name. It just has that probably because way, but it's still has Greg, right as a father. You're really sabotaging your kid from following in your footsteps by Gregory. I mean, you need more than one syllable. Even Gregory I, I'd never read a book from Gregory. That's such an untrustworthy name. No, I wouldn't. Yeah, Michael. There's a book name I'll come on. That's just too generic. Sorry for all you Michael's out there wanna generic first name and then exciting. Last name will like Michael Crichton. Michael Crichton. There you go. Exactly the most trustworthy writer? Yes. All of this. He didn't turn out to be crazy or anything. You know what? I'll forgive everything. He did after Jurassic Park because of Jurassic. But yeah, that was a who that is bad. A descent as this cheesy SCI fi author pretty rough in case you don't know Michael Crichton spent his later years writing a whole book about how global warming was ally and also writing one of the critics who badly reviewed his books into one of his novels as a pedophile and describing the critics, small penis. Michael crichton. Classy fella. Boy. Okay. So the marriage of l. Ron Hubbard and Sara Northrup fell apart as he was fleeing New Jersey. He knew that there was going to be divorce in since he was now quite wealthy. There was a lot of money at stake in order to secure more favorable divorce terms. What do you think l. Ron Hubbard did in order to ensure that he would have the upper hand in the coming divorce battle is not known for lying. So I don't imagine he did anything dishonest. So I would guess that you know, he just parted with half of his money and assets amicably. No. Oh, shoot fun fact. He kidnapped his daughter, Alexis and took her to Cuba. Yes, clear. Oh boy. Well, he didn't immediately take her to Cuba I, he kidnapped her and paid a random nurse to take care of her for a month, and then kidnapped his wife wants. The baby was are taking care of the in two of his followers kidnapped his wife physically forced her into the vehicle according to bare faced messiah, the grabbed her by each arm. One of them clamped a hand over her mouth and they bustled her out of the house across the sidewalk and into the back of the car, which drove off at speed. Sarah fought like a cat in the back of the car, screaming and shouting at Hubbard, who in turn was shouting at her. At one point when the car stopped at traffic lights, she tried to leap out and thereafter Hubbard gripped her around the neck and a stranglehold while the argument continues. Yeah, okay. Feminist icon run over kidnapped his life. This is why I say it's shocking that I can't find any evidence of being a child molester right? Because it's really seems like he runs. He would have been molesting skits like. Oh, but okay. I guess it's still piece shit monster..

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Behind the Bastards

02:06 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"I don't know. I'm gonna give him a pass on that one. That's so close to the truth that it counts, honesty out of L Ron Hubbard's mouth. Yes. I don't even know what to say about the part of what this makes me think that maybe he did think that his mom had tried to abort him heard no evidence of this, but he seems to be obsessed with the idea. So maybe he thought that I don't know also like he was as we heard in part one like the beloved like baby, like everyone loved him in the family. So like what that it does seem, and I'm this'll become clear that he had a persecution complex. There's part of him that wanted to be hunted that one of the government after him. So he may have just had a really happy family life and wanted to invent like this dark backstory for himself. This is real life was kind of boring. At one point, Barbara wind with him to San Francisco, and they attended a welcoming party at the house of a local diagnosis to adored L Ron Hubbard Barbara caught the great man in the kitchen making out with the host's wife when they got back to the hotel, she refused to sleep with Hubbard and he shouted, they're all against me. L. Ron l.. By the winter of nineteen fifty Dianetics had grown way way too fast for its britches. Hubbard establish too many schools in too many places, and it couldn't cover their own bills lead also hired way too many people Dr winter, the guy who helped make Dianetics look, legitimate left the organization after several people develop psychosis during auditing one attendee. Turns out damage people by doing this? Yeah. Have an untrained people try to do psychotherapy. It's a mixed bag. Lesson learned lesson. Well, no, no. Didn't learn any lesson this lesson flew way over everybody said and still has won ten de of a dynamic center. In Elizabeth New Jersey noted, quote, people had breakdowns quite often. It was always hushed up before anyone found out about it happened to a guy in my course, a chemical engineer. They wanted to get him out of the school and volunteered to stay with him in an adjoining building. He never slept her eight and was in a terrible state. No one could do anything with him in the end. They took him off to an asylum. Yeah..

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Behind the Bastards

02:39 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"So the great leader could administer the far-flung chunks of his burgeoning new empire. At one point, he leased an apartment at the Chateau more Mont for them to share in order to reassure Barbara of their relationship. Ron walked through the apartment and said, this is your closet. This is your dressing table. This is your toothbrush two days later. She found all of her possessions that she'd left in the apartment on a bag at her desk run Hubbard's wife, Sarah, and their baby had moved to Los Angeles and Hubbard had put them up in the apartment. He'd written for himself in Barbara. Later in the day, he apologized to her called his wife a bitch and said, I miss you. Then he asked her to have dinner with him and his wife that night. His wife present. Yeah. Yeah. He he wanted to have dinner with them, so she wouldn't think that he was having an affair with Barbara. Okay. All right. Dan, inner interviews with Russell Miller, Barbara admitted that she felt almost uncontrolled drawn towards l. Ron Hubbard because you'd get pissed him a lot for being a creep. But quote, I was completely infatuated. I remember I said to my roommate, we had a small apartment in Beverly Hills. If I ever tell you I am marrying this guy, I want you to time. Yup, and not letting the out the door because he's a lunatic, but I didn't trust myself not to do it because I was so enchanted by him, being with him was like watching a fascinating character playing a role on stage. I was never bored with him. He was a magical, delightful man, a great raconteur, very bright in the musing and a very gentle patient and sweet lover. Oh, so so he has learned to he. She had, she says, he's learned to fuck, and she's clearly recognizes he's a nut. So she has no reason to lie about this, right? I'm gonna guess he'd learned how to fuck good on him. So everyone. Good news l. Ron Hubbard learned to fuck. All right. That's a t shirt. That's a t-shirt. Someone do some art for L, Ron Hubbard learn to fuck shirt, so we can get really sued by the church of Scientology like ludicrously suit. Our numbered condoms, maybe l. Ron Hubbard dental dam. That's the one. Wow. Yeah, he was gentle lover. It's dental dam says, here's Barbara again at the time I recognized early on that he was also deeply disturbed. Some of the things he told me we're really bizarre, but I never knew what to believe. He said his mother was a lesbian and that he had found her in bed with another woman and that he had been born as the result of Emmett tempted abortion. He talked a lot about his grandfather who could really hold his liquor and played a fiddle with the head of a negro carved on the end. But he never talked about his father and never once mentioned. He had children. I did not know. He had a son until I read it in the newspapers years later. There's a lot in that paragraph to also wasn't the federal Qatar. Okay, guitar, he's lying about it. Instruments forgotten what kind of instrument with the weirdly racist, carving his grandpa..

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"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

Behind the Bastards

03:12 min | 2 years ago

"ron hubbard" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"With our super producer, Dylan Fagin are hitting the road to find the stories behind all the things we like to eat and drink. We will be talking to the culinary creators and eaters of the world to get to the bottom of why we like what we like and how we can find more of those things. On our first trip, we went to Asheville North Carolina, a city that pulled itself out of a seventy year economic depression with beer and food. Neil episodes will be coming out Wednesday and Friday on apple podcasts. Hello friends. I'm Robert Evans, and this once again behind the bastards to show that tells you everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history. Now, this is part two of our three part series on L Ron Hubbard pm. Listen to part one. I recommend doing that now for those of you who are back from Tartu, you're listening to this the day after part one is dropped, but we are recording them all in one terrible marathon fell swoop. So you're Addison the point if this were an actual marathon. This is about mile five, where you starting to feel good. You've hit a stride, you're happy with the progress, but midway through this is when we're gonna hit our wall, and it's just gonna break both as human beings and is creative artists. So that should be really exciting for all you people. And then the third episode we won't even be human beings will just be shattered remnants of souls hanging onto meager office. Yeah, Graham in grams in a meat packing anyway, you ready? So ready. Let's do this. So people regularly message me on Twitter. Suggest new candidates for episodes of this podcast. Sometimes their suggestions are spot on and I do appreciate them. But I get a lot of people who will suggest shitty people like Ben Shapiro, Iran, Paul or Brad Kavanagh, and I'm not going to do an episode on in these people because while they're shitty, they're all kind of lame like they're not interesting in a bad way. We all know the ways in which they're bad. Like Brett cavenaugh, everyone who thinks he's bad, understands everything about him is a shitty person. That's public knowledge. I liked to cover people who are shitty and exceptional. And that's why I picked l. Ron Hubbard this week because I really do think we talked about this a little in the first episode. I think he may be the greatest conman who ever lived. So today is a story about we. We ended the last episode with the establishment of Dianetics as a science kind of how he build it. He can think of anyone. Jordan Peterson, he's like that sorta guy where he, you know, normally guy that gets six months year of prominence or so, right where everybody loves their new pop philosophy book, and then we just sorta shovel them. Into the coal fire of our culture in forget about them and move on and other years, someone else will come up. We'll be obsessed with that for a little while l. Ron Hubbard avoided letting that happen to him. And this episode is the story of how of how he thought against fallen into obscurity. Take notes during this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to become a guru and then transmit that grew into starting your own world, religion, this is the first class you've got to take on that because l. Ron Hubbard is the master. Yep. Well, there's, that's why that is called the master. Yeah, just got it. The master is really just got okay. So within two months of publishing Dianetics more than five hundred different Dianetics groups had started across the United States out Ron Hubbard began offering classes in Dianetics that were.

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Jada Pinkett Smith and Leah Remini end Scientology feud

Colleen and Bradley

00:38 sec | 2 years ago

Jada Pinkett Smith and Leah Remini end Scientology feud

"Public feud over Scientology last year, Jada Pinkett Smith, and Leah remedy of made up remedy is next scientologist with a docu series about the ills of Scientology and remedy accused. Smith of practising, Scientology Jada responded by saying while she had studied some of the teachings in L Ron Hubbard Stein that she was not a scientologist and conveniently the two will discuss the conflict and come to common ground on October twenty seconds on Jada Pinkett Smith Facebook, watched show red toss things get real real. Table. I kinda hate that. That almost makes me

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Boeing, SpaceX could launch astronauts next year

Steve Cochran

03:26 min | 2 years ago

Boeing, SpaceX could launch astronauts next year

"Marchers and the witnesses. Of the March that everything is impossible until somebody does lakeshore drive was shut down for about. An hour Livingston says the. Intent is to raise awareness in wealthy neighborhoods of shootings in predominantly, black neighborhoods in the city a, former Chicago police. Officer has sentenced to have been sentenced to six months in. Prison for income tax fraud that netted him, about three hundred thousand dollars Stevens Aguirre was sentenced yesterday by a federal judge who ordered him to repay the amount stolen prosecutors asked he'd be, sentenced to between, two and a half to two and a half years under federal guidelines prosecutors say you're created phony trust and filed multiple tax returns falsely claiming. Refunds in excess of one million dollars the tax and Bank fraud trial former Trump camp Chairman. Paul Manafort heads into its fourth. Day today ABC news correspondent Trish Turner has been. Following the, trial in Virginia on the fourth day of Paul manafort's trial we expect to hear more from. One of his former tax accountants while the. Defenses contended that their client was duped by his business partner Rick gates the tax preparer testified Thursday that Manafort was repeatedly told that he. Must report, foreign Bank activity to the IRS so on Friday we expect to hear much more about manafort's tax. Returns and what Manafort reported as income to the government Trish Turner ABC news that the courthouse in Alexandria Virginia SpaceX is going to be putting people onto its. Test flights in April of next year ahead of Boeing NASA revealed the schedule for manned flights yesterday. All the astronauts currently at the international space station have been taken there on Russian spacecraft since the. Retirement of the space shuttle in two thousand eleven NASA has, only booked seats on Russian spacecraft until November of. Next year NASA now plans to use private companies To ferry humans to the space station Dow WGN sports, here's Andy mazer been on many people's radar to start the year with Daniel polka certainly is now the rookie launching a pinch at three Ron Hubbard helped the white size to a sixty four win over Kansas City yesterday asked after the game about his approach I wanted. To hit a Homer those it Yeah yeah Wanted to get a ball up that I could hit. Out part he gave me one as third page. At home run this year tying with Oscar gamble in hundred seventy seven for the most in one season. In franchise history guy picked up on waivers for the twins, in November White Sox headed to Tampa on your pre game tonight, at five thirty five and DJ the first pitch, at, six ten a loss for the cubs in Wrigley, last night six to one to the Padres the loss, in, costume grounded the standings Milwaukee crushed by the dodgers in. Los Angeles last. Night twenty one to five dodgers had seven. Home runs so the cubs to lead the division by one game oath-taking tunnel will go for the cubs this afternoon against Tyson Ross for, San Diego finding a home at the big league sponsored by the diligent Bedford park building for the future. White Sox first, round draft pick dick Madrigal earning a, promotion yesterday he's going from, low economical you high, a. Winston Salem he's yet to strike out on his professional career and the second round choice steel Walker was elevated. From rookie great falls. Too low a capitalist bears lose their first preseason game of the year seventeen. To sixteen that's the Baltimore Ravens. At, the Hall of fame game yesterday and Tiger Woods, shoots an opening round sixty six the world golf championship, in, Ohio is best opening round of the year but in. Poulter managing a. Sixty two in the first Johnny has a. One shot lead heading into today's second round on the home of the Blackhawks northwestern Wildcats and Chicago White Sox baseball Andy mazer WGN sports, baseball is about stats and figures at.

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