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The Relationship Series (Part 4)

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37:11 min | 2 years ago

The Relationship Series (Part 4)

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You won't be happy in relationship if you're not happy which sell I inspiration come from the big shiny new single single again. <hes> you know obviously talking about single again. Trina got us all recall single again so I guess you know they should just collapsed whatever the time rephrase relationship goals and then the memo of the week that I just read today or Monday was say being singlets singlet board began a relationship too complicated talking to someone to frustrating woody is life are jostle as the last three parts. I haven't had two guests. So why wouldn't I finish off with two guests so I got two more yesterday started. Let go on lefter. What's your name where you're from? I'm Jay Ron Houston Texas this time back. We have another WHOA WHOA go back to the show so you bet you young lady. Hey be a number of states how you know state now display all right so I ask them last week in Amac's again when you hear the word relationship was the first thing that comes to your mind commit me responsibility responsibility disability. Okay all right out is either yes or no I know I asked what they don't are you in a relationship yes enough. He is saying and actually single. ooh Okay next question so Yagi acid simultaneously are you have you saying he s. I am all right. Good okay so I found article is called ten reasons. Why people are saying hi SORTA? I reason it says that people are saying was because money is that there are people around who are single and people haven't singled all anything like that is there are soda. People think that commitment is an expense says according to him they are committed to have to spend on their partners they after give for the birthdays anniversaries knowledge that something with these because you say enough single so do you feel like you don't have to buy another follow body reflex difficult. You'll tiger well. I usually don't expect I don't expect use. It'd be nice on dates. I'm I'm Kinda like Yale. You know you take care of the bill in lead to ochre sell on kind of open today now what you because you're in a thriving relationship that's combining gene so now do you enjoy buying stuff is Kinda like because I've heard some people say sometimes people will look at it as a burden but some people actually enjoy oy like spoiling their significant others who enjoys spoiling try to win. I can the next one. It says that personalities the reason people are saying that this the harsh reality but maybe you are thinking because nobody wants to be with you. Personality has a lot to do with this. Nobody wants commitment would've flirt okay so do you have a flirt either via do you a single was your flirt was a flirt house up woody mean house alike where you always always cracking jokes with Leslie stuff. I think is a mixture of both bill is in my case. I think it was the corning would help me more than it hurt me okay. My jokes is funny. Talk Judges Anti is mountain years realtor okay her knee. I'm alert and then we'll learn coban nowadays. The flirting Carmelite Hotel should meet you know like is like is the whole social media way so everybody. It's easier to flirt on social media argument yes in in those little you know heart is or you know just sliding corny jokes in you know what I'm saying. Just <unk> jokes that were okay a special meeting like I said it's easier and that's the way right now. It's not old school pickup lines will all the you know somebody said friend of mine is ever may owed until his life like like whenever he will close off and she will put other male A._O._l.. Or anything he can be funny. She lowers his elemental yourself like this the way to do it. That's one of the ways to do it. This one you make make yourself known dislike my lady. I made myself known. I didn't hide your no no but it wouldn't necessarily I like it wasn't a bugaboo it was more of I made myself know put my I didn't put myself out there but she saw who I was right. It was working there. We have different takes on this on. y'All's love story out okay. I was still still in pitcher okay so says sometimes people are still single because they love their Hicks. Okay never too much on that. I that that Eh me but he's up for. You know absolutely not okay. There's some cases though it is for. Some people say anything. I've never had issues with my ex. If anything come around you know as friends like Oh you know did you wrong but you know we still good still coup you know so the next one is overconfidence. Sometimes people are saying because they're overconfident. I find that interesting because it's like some women I know like confident softening me but then is like as a man confident woman. That's overconfident I do. She feel like she knows she can get. You guzm ethics pretty else but that's just me yeah or I'm not single moon. Well were you were. That's it as as a l.. May Pension is different ways. I guess I we say overconfident. I'm thinking somebody who is you know. Don't think they stink yeah. I don't like though I don't like that. Sometimes Seles enjoyed freedom there joining late night parties and happy that they don't have to answer to anyone so they're happy single enjoy freedom <music> now I can say I enjoy my free decides. I know people who Artan relationships and they have you say no out all the time on a crack and I'd just be like yeah. They look upset so it's like every time you look miserable and I just feel like you should be happy. If I see University of you should be smiling happy. You know what I'm saying not every time but especially we offer that will give you what I do. I think when you're in a relationship I guess okay in backup. When you're single focus focus on your singleness so when you enter relationship is no longer about just one person it's about two people so you can't be in a relationship Agnes single or doing doing single things because you're an you have another person to be worried about are concerned about your? You know it's no longer all I WANNA do this. Is We don't do what is a United States but at the same time there should also be they should also be able to do things separately. Would you know actress you to go out half on your knee or vice versa actress you go out to girls. You know they should be that comfortable space. This particular person is not the case is always always he has to do with she say he's leave. He needs a dip. I mean like I said just seeing like other than I have other people that I am relations. Why would I feel like those? People have good relationships like is like they together. Maybe stuff together okay. I don't WanNa do this. We compromise I'm talking about. He told me let me and my lovely wife mentioning miles while my fiance okay right so that's one of the people on something about like other times. It'd we like but I do think got a pretty decent. You Know Yeah Yeah we do and she she also does make up at shale dot glam on instagram but if you look for Natural Glam once again at Shell C. H. E. L. L. Dot g l eight M s now the next one is people say that they have no time for love it says in today's life of Hustle Bustle and working career there are people who choose career over relationships they think I think their relationship would divert their minds from work hands affecting their performance so they like to stay away from love. Now here's the thing I feel like. They're shooting extent only because because sometimes if you meet safeness you mess with a girl like age began over here this. I'm saying saying that sometimes you get distracted the not on the same page like if you have these dreams and they don't believe in them or four I know from experience or you. WanNa do this and they don't agree with that. I think you may be reaching to half or something. That's not gonna you can't focus on what you WANNA. Do it Yo career. I feel I used to be with somebody who lived together now whereas like but wash it there metal would would either one of y'all is doing. I feel like there's <unk> athletic. He can be communicated like in a relationship. If I'm with my mate wherever you know I'm GonNa Push Vida bestself regardless regardless. It does not matter. You know what I think of. If you're happy doing that in Islam benefit us then go forward. I will never okay but you can't you can't hey cut it out but to each his own you know what I'm saying. Everybody's different different strokes for different. Basically it was just saying that. Some people get caught up in what they WANNA do and they feel as though love takes their mind off of they not focus on what they need to do. If you have that partner who is focused on taking your mind off of that and that's not the right person yea but love and joy comes in all different types of ways so you might have somebody who agrees with what you're trying to do and will prefer not to get to get the way mode support you. Whatever have you WANNA do now. That doesn't mean are no he or she support me so. I'm GonNa just keep working. That's been no time at yeah you gotta spend time with somebody but now I don't think that's I.. I think there's more of an excuse the next one is the fear commitment which we understand that it's Kinda tied what I just said name. The last one is they said waiting for the right person now. The right part is far at Scott. The right person might might not be include. You don't know you might go on instagram. They might find. Do we live in a different world today. You know you might go to the store. They might find you. You know maybe a church you yeah. No I mean is this place on the job on the job. You Know Kristen mingle harmony black people meet is usually the unconventional way right. Some some Nigerian never think about would happen right at wor at work as you mentioned <hes> your fiancee at work correct run here that is correct so now where's the craziest person you've met somebody like as far as you talk to us have to the way. I think crazy news that with the ball L. Dues revenue lease all my guy by the way okay. I'm not even on their humble. Say this like I am not like I'm gonNA check gross. I mean I meet yeah in different in different places different ways take for example. I met this guy at work ochre. He was Asya driver and you know he was sweet. He came to deliver stuff but you know well. You just can't help what you meet people. I mean one thing led to another now. We just been on a few days. Whatever saying I'll say all right now cloudy talking about second we gotta flip into because let's keep the Jesus. Some people are here at toxic relationships. We got a little earlier but so now I got some bustle dot com it's article and it was saying a few reasons why people in relationships even though they they shouldn't be you know. Sometimes you remember <unk> he'd known them. You know physically you know. Put them in saying stuff to them or you know they got. Oh I gotta be home by two o'clock. He GonNa don't be mad at me off to work in their home by certain time girl Nag on for hours us out cheating. That's mentally draining in abusive. Don't realize it what you know so is it. Some people don't WanNa be alone. I know a lot of people can be by itself. They ended our relationships as anyone to Muslim another one pulsing log on they pay day low passageway. Take a few steps back. How you the love every two months the somebody maybe it's something that they an insecurity that they have you know and they're trying to fill voids? I've been in a situation where I was in a relationship in in a lavish person talk down on me but at the same time I stuck around for the comfort and that's really a ugly ugly place to be but you really get situations where you know you allow people to tell you down because that's some you're used to it really metex strong-minded Blairite N._F._S.. I'm gone you know what I'm saying. So do you think that's a self love issue yet. Yeah Oh definitely definitely awesome issue as deeper that we don't know about death event leads to the next one. He says that people don't think they deserve that. If you're unhappy with your partner or your relationship that you absolutely deserve it may not be a partners fought during happy but that doesn't mean you don't deserve happiness so it's kind of tied to that. You know people will they. Don't want to admit it today self they. Just you know yourself all the way because you're not gonNA tolerate. I mean you know nobody. He knew united. Nobody be literally you. You're not gonNA tolerate. Sorry nobody cheating on you. Just accepting it like you know. All you know cheating cry or was what they do is they go lurking in crackle louis-yvonne. I don't know who needs to do this but if you're not gonNA leave them. Nobody fall out. I don't have that much energy piece. I had that much in some people. Do I mean Oh. I know what has raised that every time they mainly they follow they going through but you're only hurting yourself in at their. You know when the relationship is not willing to do that. I feel like society. He makes it okay. That's what you see on instagram. That's what you see on audience. Shows like you know all day. Phone people make jokes about it but now that's what people do that people looked at instagram. See Somebody Diem and it'd be like who was that. who was that who you know my girl? Whatever all that was what the singleness is about. You know I love the Lord's so yes I'm Donna. I'm going to incorporate that apple like once you have that that good firm relationship guy will well even when you go. You know your star now you. You're supposed to start with that. Argue supposed to start with I build that relationship and then gene allow God to assess you with Dedi. That's that's important but people be so quick why you cited to piggyback piggyback off what you say. I don't understand how people relationship with people who had the same spiritual view both of us. I don't get that I don't understand he will be talking about so we love love but you a Muslim and Hindu or Annella yeah. Even you won't be somebody art okay so I'll get there like that'd be crazy to me. I'll be what happens when you have kids. Then is like all raise your kids. You're the FBI split Obamacare GonNa be like. Do you know I think in your singleness unit to work on your relationship with God meshes hands down. I'm I'm still doing that. It's not like I know you know this overnight thing. I'm still working on my relationship. So hopefully you know I get the patience yield to to do with another since you I not and it will be your relationship is thriving. Why what do you think is the most if you can base it down to like. They're down to one thing. What would you say the reason. A child is still a threat because again relationship jackal half agree disagreements and stuff. You know especially with somebody that likes to debate so so how do you what do you do. I would say for our relationship hard-working working dedication yeah and what I mean by that is both recognize that we have flaws that can cause cause toxicity problems 'cause issue proud allows us our willingness to want to change it and try to take steps to change. It is a reason why I think is one of the main reasons why we're in a position that we are now. I know for me <hes> as you can tell. I have a monotone tone so that means yes. I have a very nasha attitude which can hurt me in plenty ways in our relationship especially. Someone is very like you know over the top. Would he say I say that he said opposites but opposites attract yeah. There's a hard attraction attraction them as trash now fatal but Louis Yeah Yeah. We both have opposite personalities but we like you said we like. I said we understand how our personalities can help and hurt so not going down. A list again of why people are relationships. You know we talk lettering. Some people are in denial united seeing something they wanna see what they don't ignore it because it's like they they. They internalized what you know. They're gonNa let the person cheated peace. Be With you know the icy or you know is easy to stay eight than it is to leave. You know they don't WanNa hurt their partner and then they convinced themselves they just in a rough patch so now what do you think either y'all aw think that I'm GonNa start off but like the difference between a rough patch and this is not work so now like Disney theme so for me. I aftermath a rough patches. Life is like Yajah's. Maybe had arguments all the time you know maybe. I just around each other. LA- too much <unk> breaking having a rough patch view but then I feel like something wear is like this not working is if we just can't agree. We just cannot be on the same page ever nothing to the point where it's like. I hate me around but the relationship. If you love and care for that person then gotTa talk that out there has to be as when communication comes up top though work then as when you when you did you leave or maybe take a break so what is your take on breaks. You believe in breaks because I know some people they say not. Taking a break is depends on circumstance. Rex can be helpful but I mean for me. Hopefully whoever I'm in relation we we live in separate homes so I have the chance to go in my own space and understanding. You know you know we we can work it out. Black alive is better when you're in separate spaces versus being together one space anybody you around twenty four seven you need a break is like growing up with your. Mama your daddy o both I come on. There's been plenty of times where you go with your Momma. Your Momma too much. You just spend it happens. When you get older you go to college. I know I'm not the only person who winning I got to college. He got to the dorm for like too. Much really talked to Momma how you used to backing us at home. I don't know for sure I barely caught my mom because I'm sick of talking. We're talking about eighteen you straight. I WanNa talk to you all right now so anybody that you wit any person to win a whole bunch of times by that's why that's why I say when you're in college don't have a roommate. Don't your roommate mation. Be Your best friend. 'cause that's GonNa Happen. That's GonNa ruin a relationship because you around each other too much but if you in a committed relationship and you love somebody a break jake should be it shouldn't be let's move out. Bert should be I'm over here. I that's why I tell her all the time where we have disagreements. It seems like he lied house. I'm not not leaving me I can you can stay in the room aren't being the living room did the separation so that type of break when they should not like. I'm just move out salacious lies. If you like move out and you have that type of break I mean that's a break out. Understanding gallons separate spaces faces. It helps you in the living room in whatever as long as you have did that our two two hours would just don't talk to that's fine but if you got to break we're. GonNa move out you. You know break brother. You broke up everything if you wait no somebody you wait into the slightest thing. How did you say so say some smart idea but as I can't do this packing boxes agree on the way we break I mean Aneta <unk> are so now I got a few is some six pros and cons that come from the Cu dot com his life for relationship ambience single so kind of like like I guess simultaneously in a way the pros and cons pros me relationship. You always have company. You know so you always somebody next team. He needs somebody advantage. Talk to now when I look about this 'cause I've been in situations that Nelson situations where people was with the girls with news and they talked to him in the girl do will it'll be like wow that's crazy like nobody you can't talk to Brian because he will be relationship. People just are and that's what's up. I could talk intellectual level Nisa listening problem. She not listening if you don't have nobody that's open to listen into you. When you expressing your deepest insecurities the somebody are you saying like when you talk to somebody that'd be like. Otis crazy odors. Craig's problems is not listening they have listening to are you like they listening but they just don't know how to respond to. That happens to me a lot. Where in my relationship she expresses herself in a lot of times. I don't know what to say. Should I don't know a day hey sometime I mean that is a real thing. Sometimes you can express your deepest insecurities. I think they express that beautiful okay. I it would never I think sometimes we just be talking to you know get it off. Our chest. We're not asking you to respond is listening to see yeah. You're not supposed to be sometimes we only use saint edges beating but what is this the question would pile. Can I show you that on listening because like I said I could easily be listening to you in the off site all this crazy 'cause. I don't know what to say. I don't know how to explain the situation. Relation circumstances I don't think is like if you expressing yourself to girl as she come back with all this Craig's shoes she can choose. Listen to everything you're saying because if you ask whether I say she you told them what you said. Oh that's crazy Jeez. You know he's just saying diversey. WHO's not listen as kind of like you could tell that they offer you know this responsibilities like I heard list. 'cause you hear me listen so have some say back. It's not not necessarily something to say back. He just kind of like a cannot be millionaire and do a phone call in Aww gees. Do you know how to explain that light if someone is she's in a relationship or in a situation ship you talking to you girl. If you do talk to you and you saying how you feel about something that you need somebody to vent to necessarily won't come to respond. He just want them to Kinda. Just me live okay well. How do you want them as Ryan like. Do you want them and actually say for me. It's it's about. I it depends on what I'm talking about. If I'm just saying Elliott this was a bad day Yada Yada Yada better known I mean yeah I think yeah and anytime she wanNA response. It's more than just okay. That's just silent because it's about showing that you're actively actively listening not just listening and that's why people don't comprehend a lot because it's you folks on the right thing say versus in question. I'll say Oh if if I'm a combined you don't even if it's true you know. Come out and say like issue of all. You know what I mean you. You will say like I understand how you feel. You know what I mean. I understand why a stressful for you. You know what I mean. You can leave like that because it's just like I need to know that listen to me in for me. If you not emma contact me nothing left to hear that you've actually heard everything came out. You know got her our. We asked of course thank you all right so now says that being in relationships increase a quality of life is less stress is says that if you when you are in a relationship so you have less time for like social relationships other social relationships after it depends on the person because again I know people who are relationships that are thriving who still have Taufa but it's a lot of these people beating relations and they could everybody off so do you believe in that but I don't believe but you know people that do they don't hear from them. A normal it happened to me not the previous one but the other one yeah they just could you off Nah. I mean I might as as well. It should have been cut off from the word if I wasn't. I was GONNA get in trouble because using a domestic violence relationship it was domestic violence us but I would get the abuse girls due to P._S._A.. which say that would be a wet hitting has to be in? She says that you know sometimes you will be feel bored at a long term relationship nice job. That's why they might be single. I feel as though if you're in a relationship you could try different things to spice it up. Maybe try going new places. Maybe if you can afford if you get a forty some people conversation just trash like but you've been with that person that long so what what are you complaining about. It's been it from the jump but you let's take back to prime grade example temptation Tyler Perry movie. She was born her relationship. That's all she knew. Don't give me that Bullshit Room Israel. It's Israel's borders the same thing she got well. There's this debate a but you're the debate office about the whole macomer situation. They said because I would actress name aim but his wife because his wife had herself go miges woman had three kids or two kids by him in she was suffering from Lupus in the medicine that she makes her blow up and I was like I do believe just like it's a man duty. Take care of his woman duties ever help not just brought may of her family to be there for camera but I don't think I feel like if you're a cheater like anything's GonNa make you do that like it doesn't matter what your wife is does. She do everything for you and unlike the woman from the movies talking about she wanted that was she was exciting. Anything new day in front of you as a human being. You're curious in her curiosity turned into cheating turned into. I Guess I was saying the movie was bushy. Curiosity killed the cat so you get to cures remember that it could be now. G-GO scratch <music> pants pass on our moving into tiffany scenarios of college students allergists say fired yourself like every this. I really don't have too many tipper scenario. I would just say fine. Just don't don't feel like nothing wrong relation. Nothing like you missing out on because it's things you do relationship. That's fine that you can't do single vice versa but either way you can still be happy because you end up throwing relations focusing on your education at this time anyway that too I feel like you should call it especially because the toxic relationship in college because your grades. I also look becky man I wish I would a._B._C. but I was too busy. Relationship less less not discourage people who are it's not. I'm just speaking in general all people who do have thriving religious in common it is I guess all right Lee wrapping things up today. We'd be on Gametime this game time. It's called our names on things and I'm timet. Which one would you rather do so now? Would you rather be single with a million dollars of being a relationship poll single with a million single at a me so good to me. It depends though depends <unk> then a relationship. You'd be cheated on these single celebrate single insolence for the wind. Sorry guys celebrate being a relationship and have all your bills pay O._B.. Saying I have all expense paid trips strips of Kutch not because I underestimate all your bills paid okay. Oh okay wait. It is hard because you can go to coach with all your bill will take all U._B._S.. Pay Because you can go to the country. When are you paying a C? Yeah thank you. Hello I last one piece single with the hold hit you up being a relationship with the whole team newel. I'm I'm not answering that question single at the hose his wrote on the incident question matching then you buy your dental what okay so this is. Is that a trick question because you know people always attacked women below while like him to pay myrtle. I'm trust me well. How come you won't pay for us? They do somebody say release in the conversation that I don't mind you split you said the tip it does not matter it. Could you go either way so we say if you got the bill to go rub you wrong way. It depends on if we've been talking to for the first day. Why's that? Why's that came talk about their? Why is that how come the first day demand has to pay? I never I mean I don't mind that your top after like it depends on the circumstance. No no no because I'm open to if I'm it we cool but we're talking like I don't mind paying for your food. biogen's bitty before zone trait are nothing like the first day a friend zone will make it friends first day our come how come initiative in this situation. If the woman made the first move she C- say can we go on a date. I say yes how come why do the mail so why is it that the male has to be the one to pay for it. Why is it too like I say I guess it's based on the situation to question why produce meal have to pay for the first date our our its end off with the last final fodder relationship series? I want y'all if you single I want. Did you say three things that you would like in your next. Relationship is like a river a moment yeah. Donny's a bathtub should type hyped up for what's that called. What was that phone? Call blackberry all right so in enough relationships <unk> thing. I won't say this. This is fun I think for me. I think just being single taking time don't less issue will do you know you good. Were you at take your time. Love Yourself. Love yourself as key points so you could be able to listen one all right Oh and in a relationship hard work persistence communication. If you really love this person like you say you do you have have to be willing to go through the ups and downs. If you WanNa get to where you WANNA go all right so we are done finally with the relationship series I four part series seemed like it went kind of fast to me but let me know which I think let me know beyond joy this series. I felt like it was pretty good on what they everybody. Let the voice the last few weeks because this was a very difficult for me Linka with some. y'All you know who you are so tune in next time the season I

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Pastors Bryan Carter and Jeff Warren - A Conversation on Race

The Strategerist

54:23 min | 1 year ago

Pastors Bryan Carter and Jeff Warren - A Conversation on Race

"Pastor Brian Carter and Pastor Jeff Warren represent. Churches from. SIZE OF DALLAS, but they've formed a friendship based on all the things that they have in common, and when their hometown has needed unifying voices of leadership today, and in the past these to have stepped up and looked past racial lines, doing pulpit SOPs to share different viewpoints with their congregations and leading unifying prayer rallies including one just days ago in front of the Dallas Police. Department, Headquarters. They've. They've been a lot of conversations with local leaders recently and pastor. Carter has a real shift in both individuals and corporations. That's my hope that really changed. And we gained some advocates and allies. There are people who have never spoken up before that I hope that they spoke them this time and they won't stop. They will make this part of how they begin to shape the world for the. But as he and Pastor Warren point out, we still have a long way to go. I still have the people who were surprised when I talk about white privilege, and that just reveals to me a real. Again an ignorance. Said recently white privilege and Oatley means. I can go outside tomorrow morning. Go off to work or whatever I'm doing and not think about the color of my skin all day long. Passers Carter and Warren joined the Bush Senators Ron Houston to have a frank discussion about race today. Progress we've made. The challenge is still out there and tangible next steps and Policy Recommendations I'm Andrew Kaufman, and this is the strategic presented by the George W Bush Presidential Center. My esteemed colleague Senator Ron to Houston. Who is one of our today? Rhonda? Thank you for joining us. You're welcome. Thanks for inviting me Kate. Product suggested that we talked to these two when we were all brainstorming over to include in the America at its best issue at the catalyst, the Bush Institutes Online magazine we were looking for folks who were working to make the world a better place in hard times. It's a run ended up hosting the conversation for the catalyst. Talk touched on race issues. It was really centered around how to cope with Kobe. But Ron originally suggested them because of the gray work they had done showing unity in two thousand sixteen, when Dallas and the nation was struggling with discussions around race and the police after Ferguson in police shootings, in Dallas, and it was just a lot going on, and so here we are. A month after the catalyst conversation on covid nineteen and the world has seemingly totally changed, or maybe the whole point is that the world has changed. So without further ADO. Let's talk about it with Pastor Brian. Carter Senior Pastor at Concord Church located in the southern sector of Dallas with predominantly black congregation pastor Carter. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me in Pastor Jeff Warren is senior pastor at Park City Baptist Church located in north. Dallas with predominantly white congregation pastor warned. Thank you for being here injured. Thank you great to be here. For those listening, that are unfamiliar Dallas. That north-south divide is is important and. Don't just throw it in there for geographic purposes and I'm sure we're going to touch on that throughout this conversation, but let's kick it off with Rhonda so that she can just pick up right where she left off. Rhonda Take it away. Thanks Andrew I. Will. I'M GOING TO START OUT BY? A Little Caesar we have seen countless videos of police brutality. Going back. We can go back as far as Rodney King in one, thousand, nine, hundred nine, even farther than that we read town headlines of nine one one being called on Latin Americans were going about their daily activities We pointed out the statistics show the racial disparities in equities in our education economic ladder, but it feels like we're in a different moment right now, and at this moment has the potential to lead to positive changes in a number of areas. What is it that makes this moment different? So, don't take that. Rhonda I think what I'm seeing in the white community. I'm seeing a lot more white people involved of for years. I've been challenging people in positions like mine white pastures and others to get involved jump in the fray. I don't think this is going to get where we want to be. Without the white voice without without leaders, and some of you heard my story that Dr King, the one who called me out along with others only way back when he wrote a letter from his letter from Birmingham jail, and he calls out the White Margaret who is a white person in a position to bring influence and yet staying on the sidelines. He says the problems KKK. The problem is not white supremacist group. The White Citizens Council at the time. He said the problem is the white moderate so that that has been what I'm encouraged by so many more white people people of Color Involved this time around. I would say similar. I believe that I think the tragic death of George flow in the manner in which he died. With that being replayed on our minds, it seem to have been. A rallying point I mean it's. It's unfortunate that it would take this many occurrences for us to get here, but it seems as though. For whatever reason George, Floyd's death has has seemed to sound alarm across the country, and so now on the country, but you've seen protests across the world, and so perhaps it's a combination of the tragedy of his death, and perhaps it's the timing that really this many many experts predict the next generation. It's fifty to sixty percent. Minority in so you have a collision that have grown up in a different world, and perhaps this next generation is saying this. Is Too long for this to continue happening. And then we've never seen corporate America step into this space, but I think the last ten years social justice had become such a part of the culture or telling what millennials that is almost as though if you're not engaged in bringing about change, if you're not engaged injustice in almost feels like you are headed the wrong direction, and so perhaps all this collision between the millennial between the culture between corporate America between the tragedy. Perhaps it can make a point a tipping point that can really lead to long sturm systemic tank. We don't know yet, but it's our whole. Because more conversations enters more engagement perhaps than we've ever seen before. So I think I think it's fair to say that. A lot of people have been doing a good amount reflection after George Floyd's killing and then clues myself. Rhonda and I were talking earlier. She asked me what about this is different for you and I think it's important that we all look at ourselves honestly so with with that mind. They answer that I'm really not proud of. Is that I? It wasn't that different. It was something bad happening to someone else in another city, and it was just part of the news cycle. There's there's bad news every day. So I'm going to go back to doing my job. Talking my friends. Doing whatever else is is going on in my life and. I'm not proud of that, but something about this tip. The scales made us that people like me who? Were able to finally pay attention and I'm not I'm not proud of took a tipping point for me to pay attention. But it did get there so in your view. What about this goddess? Tha? That knob? Where we all? Finally, really did pay attention to what is a real issue that's been happening for a very long time. I think. A nine minutes slowed there with a knee on the net. I think it's probably one of the most devastating things we could ever see our managing. I think the images I think the fact that we saw officers wide and no one seek to really render aid. I think in brokers at the tragedy of of the manor which he was killed has called us all to really ask questions Based on him organised. Check I mean things just didn't add and so. My hope is that it really? I think it left us all disturbed, and so the process that have happened the en- game that has happened. Maybe! It's because we seen been her so many times and our hope is that we don't WanNa live in a world where that's okay. And and so I, mean that's my whole. My hope is that it's challenging all of us, and then like you I'm disappointed that it's taken so many, but perhaps we've gotten to point the culture where we we're not comfortable with unjustice and we feel. We feel bothered to say I have to be involved. Our world has to be better than this I don't want. My children grow up in the world. This is the norm we don't know, but perhaps it is that time that one moment in history that will look back and say I, remember way in those changes happen. This is A. This is the key a key moment of the net. The sense that this is different. Will s not let this slide? Let's not this. Let this slip, so pastor Carter Nyerere, trying to look at an guide people towards real change in a lot of people are thinking that way and grateful, but it is sad Something this explicit. Would finally engage the white community more than it has in the past. This is not new when I when I heard about this, I thought this is Eric Garner over again. This is two thousand fourteen. and for for the black community You know you look back. You Got Mike Brown Ferguson I. Mean before that you got trayvon Martin. What was noted earlier. You've got a group of millennials. Even Jin's e even more so trayvon. Martin was born in ninety five, so he he. We've got a whole generation of people who have grown up. With this kind of You know brutality that we've seen throughout a generation, and it's not new to to others, but I think it's so so explicit in this case, you can't walk away. You know what I get so often is as I stepped into this space. Is a jeff wait in our first? Our first response is not one of lament of sadness in as a Beleaguer as a follower of Christ in the Bible tells us that when when one part of the body or anyone else suffers, we all suffer, so the first reaction should always be one of lament and sadness, just to be human and to say this is not the world. We WanNA, live in. it sad that that it took something so explicit. In this case you can't say let's wait on the details. Let's wait on the judicial process to run its course. Let's wait on Jeff don't jump out there so quickly. okay now I think we all watch this man dive right in front of us in this. This has sparked as not spark a change in the hearts of people now. We gotta talk about what what true system change looks like. In in leading your congregations. Through this there are there are so many voices out there. There are so many. You know you go online you here. You know you. You can hear any kind of voice that you WanNa. Hear right on any on. Amy. Sad a of the issue in so in leading your congregations. How do you? How do you lead your congregations? How do you talk? these issues through with your. Because you both represent and lead so many people power you leading through this. I'd say I'd say very delicately, but then. There's this X. Foot on the on the white side, which is Gordon my experience I'm encouraged by so many people who with me and for me and we got your back. But even of late. How about as early this morning? I get a hit up. With emails and such with people who aren't in my church necessarily, but now no of of my involvement, so so racism is alive and It comes art out in when you have racism, it means if you if you come against oppression, it means there's an oppressor. There's someone who is in charge. WHO Doesn't want to lose you know that spot. People talk about white for Jilin there's A. There's a fragile Nisa of that. When your position is being taken, you know if you will so I get all that and it's so complicated. What happens now that I'm seeing is in this uber polarized culture that we live in. The narrative is hijacked quickly and so what I'm seeing I've said you know I've stated the black lives matter. I'm aware that it wasn't long after the Hashtag came out, the the movement was hijacked. By what some could argue much more would argue more fringe element in a within the movement. Now black lives matter changing street names. We're painting it on streets and everybody's saying it. As a Christian, I hear people say Jesus as Lord and he's not lower their life at all, but that's not going to keep me from saying that he's more so. I think we need to speak clear. We need to speak the truth of said that that you can't say all lives matter. Black lives matter. And I get it the so that's the kind of thing. People want to come back at me and you know what about this? What about that and we just WANNA WE WANNA a really? Be So critical about every little bit of it, but my question is. What are you doing? To fight injustice in what are you doing to come against racism and wind? Someone doesn't have a question an answer to that question. The League got all kinds of answers as to how I'm doing it. I'M GONNA say I like my way better than your way. If, you're not involve. My way better than yours. Yeah I I think both lead a continuum of people. I mean in any of our church. Any context as you mentioned, you can find whatever your ear won't stay here. You can find someone that's. That's portraying that perspective and so. As leaders the. Vast congregation. Both of us are trying to manage you know what is the middle ground? What's the common ground that we can find? It can help move the church forward with knowing that there are people. Dan, so one of the things I've tried to a lot of see this list. I had we had a session with some community activists. That, here where they are in terms of what are their demands, what other expecting from the protests from the march whether they're in goals, we had had some chance to visit with some business owners some teenagers. Some stingers that that were at fault. This fought as fight many years ago and so I've had just listen to a lot of people, and then out of that trying to communicate where we're. God, is leading me and my heart as leader as a pastor based on my own journey based on my own experience. Will it whatever satisfy people no mirror those that. That are incredibly frustrated and hostile. Have every right to be so based on how they've been treated in their context and based on their experiences, being black in America there are those that have been more isolated to some degree as I've had forgot. How do I manage both of these and then call still point week and say when the change look like. How do we get there? And how do I is as? To. How do I become a part of the problem? There are those that are tired, even having compensates. They don't WanNa talk. They listen. I talk and talk and talk. They're not listening a moving in. There are others that are thankful that now incorporated a miracle another space. They can now have conversations they haven't had before, and so it's a huge continuum. I think ultimately as was. was mentioned. The goal is how can we bring about James? Now we all know. Where were there may? We may have different destinations, but how do we bring about change in a way that the world can be better than they can be more ingested that we can deal with the equities and be systemic racism racial challenges that have burden our country and burden blacks in America. Well then let's get specific where the Bush Institute's a Policy Center, so let's talk about policy. What do you think needs to change? You know I think that we've tried to encourage people to live from our church. Turn others that they're really multiple categories, but first and foremost criminal justice. That there ought to be there has to be some reform in terms of how we do the criminal justice system policing training. There's a lot of conversation around what that looks like. In terms of the escalade situations in terms of use of force, so there has to be not only from the policing standpoint, but then you get to the sentencing you get to the trials and you discover the people of color are sentenced more get more sentences, so you've got to look at that from a perspective I think. Michelle signatory in her book. The new Jim Crow does a phenomenal job helping us to unpacked some of the challenge or the film. The thirteen on Netflix helps us understand how the criminal justice system. For years from his foundation has has mistreated African Americans people of Color. So you have the criminal justice system in one respect and you've got the educational system I mean historically. There are inequities in the educational system where many of US understand this tragic when a chows zip code determines equality of their life. That's related to the quality of edge. Isn't that big league so everything from school? Finding everything from academic standards and social support services that students need in certain communities highly qualified teachers, but every school system has to be asking the question how we pursuing racial equity, and then from a political space we have to look at a politically and say a lot of the reasons that we are in the situation is because of politics. It were the historic policy that red line communities and prevent people african-americans from living in certain neighborhoods having access. Access to certain loans it was it was policies that built highways through neighborhoods or excluded certain communities by the placement of highways, so we have to look at policies around voting around subsidized housing around policies that have restate our communities in our cities are can to have transportation in grocery, stores and housing, quality, retail, and brawl bent Kevin Activity. Job Will Liberal way it just makes no sense for some of us are still be dealing with food desert, sin, healthcare desert, so that's one challenge, and then the last the next one is economic. We gotta look at okay, if ninety percent of the well sits in White America then. How do we help build up generational wealth in the black community I don't support black owned business. How do we provide access to capital? How do we help? Banks support enterpreneurs goals. How do we help corporate America to engaged in higher black executives put blacks on the board, so people of Color on the boards of corporations. Corporations so that there is not an afterthought, but it's a way of shaping the culture, and then lastly the help health disparities huge in nearby cities in Dallas alone between two parts of the city. There's a twenty two year lifespan gap between where you where you live, which are zip code is and that's. That's indicative of the fact that we've got to think through how we provide access to help out care. Access to healthy food. How do we build a community? So what has the oxygen so that they can have the quality of life mental health desires so all the just five criminal justice education political economic health. We could talk about more, but all bowls are systems that if a person wants to get engaged, they can get engaged when whenever space that they feel like they can make impacting. When I hear that list I. Don't hear anything that makes me say well. That can't happen it. All sounds reasonable undoable. So where where do we stumble and actually getting that done? And why hasn't this happened already? Yeah so we challenged people. Even as late as this weekend heard Pastor Carter, say to a crowd. On Sunday find your lane. You know it's just We said that you know empathy is the pathway to peace, and maybe apathy is is keeping us from getting involved. What's GONNA take? We started the whole podcast with that. What would it take? Final Lane, get involved. We have people in our church who were involved in a? A school is primarily a made up of immigrants when that most highly dense. Areas in all of Dallas so in a bakery area Dallas at all and We have seen a school Jack Entry. Go from a school that was in trouble at the lowest of the scale to become a blue ribbon school over the past five years. The principal, a principal Bari US would say that it is. It is in large part in be too too too prideful here. Say? It's because our church was involved in mentoring stepping in making a difference and so that's one lane that we can get into. We've had business owners a restaurant to for instance who came on side one of pastor. Carter's Young Black Entrepreneur restaurant tour. Come along, side him and help him help guide him stay. Here's what I've learned along. The Way I've seen that. Take place with small groups. Of Men that we've had from our church his church I was with a group not too long ago, continues to meet every Friday even by way of Zoom right now during the season, and they're helping one another, but it goes both ways. The White Guy would say in the black guys are helping me more now ever helping them, you know in life and as a family as a husband, but we're seeing so much of that were involved in. Helping those who come out of prison to get their feet back on you know back back on this on street and out and get jobs, and and so we're seeing a lot of good things happen in that way. Find Your Lane is. Is the thing find your place? Because as he mentioned those areas, we're we're we're there. You're there somewhere. You're involved in there in that somewhere, but it's not always easy means. At think is. There's ways in Europe people gate, but. I mean some of these systems you know. I mean some of these are deeply entrenched sports of the city that had been neglected for so long that yes, the person may come in and help the school, which is phenomenal. We also need to businessmen to come in and transform the community. Build some housing. Tear down some stuff that should have been torn down a long time ago. You've left. Left it up for supply. Libby I mean so there there are there infrastructural. Give some job for some job. We're the companies, worthy corporations and a lot of times. What happens in many of our city when racism was entrenched in the system, when price of the city were excluded by the policy behind was designed, it takes a lot of work to transform that and so you need real courageous. Leaders at city government in the community in the faith community, the willingness say listen, we must change as we can. No longer neglect this pardon city way that we have, and so it's not. It's not easy, and that's often while some people forget about, and so they go on and live their lives. And they say well. They didn't pull themselves up. They just didn't didn't work hard enough. They didn't put himself bootstraps. What didn't understand they were put in a in a they were put in a deficit from the very beginning, and so it's not the same as everyone else's playing by fear. I think that's so important to understand is history and we say into these bath way to peace, but before empathy there's a real ignorance got to be broken down, and that's not an excuse, but there need we need education We need to talk and I'm talking about. The white community needs to be educated. In regard to the black experience in you say well. How do you know that what you probably not going to learn it in your history books? Though is there I mean we should be reading? We should be learning more because there's a reason I think white people. A Lotta White folks can look and say. Wow, there's the impoverished you know black community or the ZIP code. They're here or there and wow, that's tough. Those people how come. They can't Ya step it up. And it's never to describe recently like running A. Say. Running one hundred meter dash in the white person started the fifty. you know that's what people don't hear about white privilege. White privilege doesn't mean that you haven't had trouble worked hard. It means that you started at the fifty. meter. Marker and you ran. You ran hard, but our brother from from the starting line is going up behind you or I mean there's a lot of analogies there, but what we see in Dallas, for instance, a lot of people don't know I've often started with this October twenty third. It was nineteen on October. Twenty Fourth Nineteen twenty-three was kkk day at the at the state of Texas. It's still one of the largest attended days of the State Fair. Hundred fifty thousand people, or there another wasn't. That's not a hundred years ago in in at the time. Arguably? The most racist city in America had two out of every feet. Three eligible white men were part of the KKK. These men were in government. They're making decisions. These people are you know they were? They were in place the leadership, and so during that time you had you had so much of the red lining. The that would not allow for loans among black businesses black people. In so there, so many systemic issues that people are unaware of that have placed people of Color in certain areas in have allowed them then or them to beaten the hind. End and I think a lot of white people don't know the history there and wonder why why to having so much trouble I mean as if racism ended with in the Civil Rights, movement or law as it were, that were. Policies that were brought about as a result as if there was a date on the calendar that that comes ended and sorbets at the same level now and why can't they step up and that's? That's just not not the case now because they okay, thank you very much bill history lesson. There's so much more than that, but we look back and we can see why we're here today. In so I think it's so important to understand that and they have an attitude or mindset that would change in your perspective change when you understand. Why things are the way, so so, what kind of much talk restitution What kind of things can we do and it's what Pastor Carter talked about we need to those who are in places of influence business leaders, hiring out of those areas and communities in helping to bring businesses into those areas, but we need policy change, so you make policies that can change, and then behavior will follow You know we're in. We're not. We're not so much in behavior modification. You know work, but we are looking to see transforming nature of God's work in the hearts of people, and that's where it starts. We know that we know that the gospels what changes the heart and changes life. We believe that. however policy change systems, and so when you change policy, the change of behavioral follow because that's law now and now. That's where we need to do to get to now. So! I wish I'd written down who wrote this? But there's a tweet a few days ago that I saw that really hit home with me, and it was written by White Guy and he was saying he used to go to parties until the story had gotten detained because at counterfeit twenty dollar bill and told the story as a funny thing that happened to me once. But that isn't a funny story to George. Floyd that got him killed and this. This tweet was reflecting on that. It really shows that racism isn't always this overt obvious thing that you see happening on the street like Oh. There's some racism I'll go. Go intervene. It's just this entirely different life experience that some people who walk this Earth have right. I mean that that was a great tweet by smu professor. He was sharing his story about his Experience at Florida went through, and so I mean studies show. That even your name on a resume. Impacts the morning. Your name can be categorized with the white name or a black. Knight impacts your. Ira Eligibility, and so it's there whether it's implicit bias or outright discrimination, it shows up. It shows up over and over again whether you're how your experience with police shows up there. It shows up your experience when you're in a store whether they follow you or not. It shows up in terms of whether you're the only one that's in a classroom or in a business setting. It shows up when you go to get a loan from a bank for people of Color, it is an everyday experience of life and I think sometimes. We think we've gotten so much further along, but we're. We're just fifty four years away from nineteen sixty five. I mean this is this is within a generation, and so we're not that far removed when it was much more obvious, it's still present. Is this we don't talk about it? We pretend that is not fair, but the impact that is having in the lives of people of Color is tremendous. You can look at the disparities across the space whether it's health disparities economic disparities whether it's a quality of life despaired. It's there if just the we think we're more removed than we really are, and we still have a lot of work to do to allow everyone to really have access to the American dream that we sodas artery. I still have the people who were surprised when I talk about white privilege and you know that just reveals to me a real. Again an ignorance. I said recently white privilege and doggedly means. I can go outside tomorrow morning. Go off to work or whatever I'm doing and not think about the color of my skin all day long. That's my life I don't think about the other my skin. And, yet the people of Color do every day essentially If you know if you show up in the white space, I mean you are and. So. Yeah! I'm still surprised. It takes a lot of education's. Education thousand conversation like this so. It's it's uncomfortable. I mean I think that's one of the reasons that we probably have not made the progress we desire. It's uncomfortable I. mean the hear the conversations that passage of has. Added Church. Watch this as he mentioned part of it become informed I mean whether it's reading books, I mean it's amazing to watch Netflix in prime of all these different networks are now have a whole section called black last night is basically as a collective resources on black history, which we have ignored, and we have to figure out how to get educated on the plight of what? What it means so that now I can understand and have conversations, but it's just not comfortable. It's much easier. Just pretending everything is okay. We're in a pulse racial world. We had a black president. We got to be in a better place, but that's just not reality that just not reality and so I. Think it's important that they wanted the best thing listeners can do. Educate start reading. Material start watching. Quality. Game Start, having conversations I think one of the challenges we've seen in some of the things. Is that for some people have begun to share? Their opinions is obviously don't have people of color them in their space. You know even corporation than have tried to write statements. You could say Yo, said. Listen that good try, but what to around need. Let's let's people to room I. Know It's uncomfortable. I know it's Har- Well. Let's figure out. What are stained series what we've stained for I mean and let's let's figure out and so I think having come even if the conversation don't end well, even if we don't have agree on everything, but let's at least acknowledged. This is the reality for this is the reality of color. There's a reality White America, unless I forgot. What do we go from? But I think it's crucial. Let's do allow listening lot learning a lot of conversation that let's not stop the conversation. Let's keep them going to help us get to a better place. So. Good I so I have What? What would the Carter said earlier, you know this is a time for the white. person to listen and listen well us as noting he's listening well and he is. It's time I listen. I love the you know the story of the good. Shepherd in Bible someone noted recently that you had the you know the ninety nine sheep, and he leaves all ninety nine to go after the one, and then all the other ninety nine or up pay all shape matter you know he's run after one all shape matter, said no, no, no, no one who is. Is who is in need right now. The wonder needs to be lifted up the one who needs to be brought into the family. That's the one I'm going after, and he's in essence saying, listen you you. You need this. You need to step aside right now it's it's like the older brother if listeners know the story of the Prodigal son, prodigal son comes home. And the older brother base email join the party, says hey I've been I've been here all along. You know what about me and the father says I mean literally says hey, it's not about you right now is not about you and I think it's time for white people to step back in this cultural moment and say it's not about you right now. We is not about me. I need to listen well. I need to learn and so we need to teach our children were. Were doing we have. We have link on our website where we're. We have a whole page on how you can engage in racial reconciliation and social justice in one of the areas is books you can read for your kids and for kids to learn about black history kids to learn from black authors about stories of black people. That's something that we've got to do a better job of and again. There's another generation coming up behind this and they're going. That's that's my world. Living in, so I'm hopeful for because of that. In so I think, both of you have had slightly touched on my next question, but you know we're we. We've talked about listening acknowledging learning. In in the policies that need to be changed, and but there are people behind the policies right. So you can't legislate how someone feels in their heart, or what someone believes so, how do we? How do we get at the heart of of people to? Have them open up on in order to receive everything that we. We've been discussing for the past half hour. Where people of Faith and we know that faith has been a big part of the book Sammy Faith for us. Shapes everything, and so for us it is our faith in God that then. Prepares our heart to be able to live out what Christian love outlook live, and so from our context from our vein. We don't believe there's anything else they can change it. Outside the Gospel, but it is this in our faith in God that helps us. To be able to say right is right and wrong as wrong. Now got to be careful, because even the church. Historically people have faith historically what perpetuates of slavery? Were were also practice practice racism in the church, so we know we all have worked I. Mean this is this is and so this, but but our hope is that when you have a relationship with it. Guides, it been direct. It be in shape shoe, but it also best that in the context of community which means you can't do this on your own, but it's in the in the fabric of faith community that you then have the support. You need accountability that you need the model that you made. I mean we have a long? We've been dealing with this problem. For Black American four hundred years, but longer than that it's in the scripture so forth I mean there's been around a long time. I mean human. The human heart is is is fail in fractured. We're going to have our issues, but at some point, people have to say if you really WANNA. Love somebody else and you want to care for someone else. Else then you're GONNA have to figure out how to battle that person who they are rather than their skin color, or any other act should be. You have to, so it's it's really the hard. That's where it starts. Because you're right. We gotta make policy chains, but until the hardest chains you don't really see all the things that are needed and necessary. You know that reminds me. An experience I had the other day where. I went up to check out the scene here in Dallas when president trump came through and. There were people there to show their support, a president trump and other people there to show their support. The black lives matter movement and parking was good, know mile or so away from the actual protests, and so I ended up walking and chatting with this lady that I met long this walk and chatting and we had some similar viewpoints got close to protest. We came across a TV camera and the reporter pulled aside another lady to interview her shoes, wearing teacher that expressed her. Viewpoint who she was supporting? And who was neither here, nor there not really relevant to the story with the Lady I was with WHO I really had. A nice conversation with had this visceral reaction to the t shirt and was like. She should be embarrassed and I didn't say anything, but thinking back on what he should have said is. That's not helpful. Either in that we're passing judgment on this person based solely on the t shirt. They put on that morning and. That's the only. The only thing that we know about them, and so, how do we get to? A place where we're we're. We're bridging this Gulf. That's just gotten so wide and I don't know you know. Live closer to judge not lest ye be judged. Think you know again back to what pastor. Carter was saying people a faith. We truly believe that God's transforms a human heart I mean it's way back in the first. Chapter Genesis we see that all people are created in the image of God. All of us and we could argue there's only one race human race. And so that that's foundational that we we see each other as as equal from the start all created by God in his image, or his purposes, and when see another individual, see another person you. You should know that going in and. To Be, Christian to to have that mindset. so everyone you know it's true. Everyone every life matters. Every person is loved and so, but as people of faith again and Christians distinctively because they have pastors here on this podcast, you know we believe that, because of the love of Christ, he changes the heart of the person so by His grace, you know undeserved favor and love I am changed and he's rescued me from myself. And when I have people tell me. You Know Hey. Just stick to the Gospel you know. Why are you involved in all? These other things you know as if there's an implications Free Gospel. that as if the message is churches, just you know, get saved, and then get beamed up the heavens sometime in into the rest of your life. You just live in concourse like you're the airport us waiting on your flight and and that's not the Gospel the Gospel permeates all of life, but it begins with that heart change then. I can love others with the grace. The same grace has been extended to me. I can I like to say I. Can out grace others so those it disagreed with somebody's wearing a shirt I. don't like t shirt and I make judgments about them in my mind. I'm GonNa out grace that person. I'm long love them because, I think in the end is an active faith to say that love is going to win the day. So what? What next when. The protesters go home when the new cycles changed the lead story. What's makes how do we keep? This this energy. That is going in this moment. How do we keep it energy going so that we can affect positive change that we're all rooting for right now. I think reform has to happen initially I mean I think a lot of states city nationally they're looking at reform measures for policing and unless good place to start I think. The the use of that kind of whole needs to be banned there several things from policing stamped when there's a lot of conflicts about. Funding do we put funds and policing Louis put funds, and the community is a both we start funding homelessness and mental health and communities and edge case in so I think the conversations that are happening now are critical I. Don't know where we're going to end up, but my hope is that small moment is a moment that has redeemed for the good of all of our cities and communities that there is some good. There's some politics comes from the policing side, but also in terms of how we serve our community's because all in. Were there were there is high crime. There's also. Probably, some of our law performing schools, also some appointment by lower lower provided economically community, and so we've gotta look at. How do we? How do we transform the community and not just over police, certain situations, even at think it has to move from policing, then has the move so the whole matter of sentencing, and how things are handled in and how we deal with those things in the court. Court system, so my hope is that this this particular issue deals with believe seen in criminal justice will help us to make the change we need to make, but will also flow into other avenues of our lives as everyone these corporate, America these corporate corporations that are making statements about black lives matter. We hope that you not only made a statement, but you have an action plan and a strategy. And just like you have a business plan. What's your plan for racial equity in your cooperates so that you can begin to enact that, so that's that's my hope that we really see chains, and we gained some advocates and allies. There are people that have never spoken up before that I hope was that they spoke this time and they won't stop. They will make this part of how they begin to save the world for the bed. That is that's excellent. I don't know how to add to that. Other than a you've asked the right question round of the key question. How do we sustain this than those? Our conversation will continue to have the past guard, or now will have. We'll meet with a group of pastors tomorrow again at every Wednesday as we pray together these days on the phone and we're going to talk about what are what are next steps. That's what I'm hearing now. Or what are the action steps? What are we going to do how we're going to bring about change, but again the challenge. This is on both sides, but on a my on the white side. If you will, we seek to bring systemic change within policies, and yes, now you're stepping into the politics and government. People say. Don't get political well. Jesus was political me spoke truth to power he he sought systemic change in across across culture. But that's what is really challenging. Encourage all of those white leaders who are listening in particular white pastors and white business owners. You've got to stay in the mix and you got to have a plan as pastor Carter noted because the. Too often now the narrative gets hijacked and what I mean just in just one case one scenario. Immediately we started to see de-fund. The police was speaking at a prayer rally couple of weeks ago. With pastor Carter a Gal made her way to the front I'm speaking and she had a sign, and it was a prayer rally primarily and. She assigned, said pray this at an Hashtag abolish the police right, and so I know when a lot of folks here that's why abolish. The fillets was ele- guide as anarchy. And get that, but but what happens is instead of looking more deeply at say. City budget talked to city council what we've been doing to say. How can we bring about some change instead too often? The narrative gets hijacked defunding police. WHO's against the police? We've said listen we are. We're pro, blue, or pro, black or pro everyone people polarized to quickly. We've. We've got to think more with with greater wisdom about these things, and it's not a simple I'm going to run to my far right or far left side of this thing. We've got to get in. Listen and together to help shape informed policies that can really make a difference. There needs to be reformed. There's there's no question because say th- -I comes in. In a lot of different forms, it's not simply well. We need now hundred police in that area instead of twenty. No, why is there such crime? Can we bring some funds in order to help people who are dealing with mental health help? The homeless owns area. See there's there's so much we learned through this crisis that the disparities have been just brought. Brought to the forefront pastor Carter noted we. You know we were initially. Kids were out of school and then well online. Well, what if you don't have? What if you don't have? Broadband Internet access in your Zip Code. You're having those kinds of things that are seeing. How can we bring some funds that way so? I would just say that real quick. The lay person if you will to fund, the police doesn't mean we're not for police. It means that that there are other areas that could potentially you know, really be beheld, and less crime could be the result with with fewer police needed in these areas. If we rethink somehow were dispersing those funds. Well we just saw this a few days ago in Atlanta. With the Rashard Brooke Situation and and he was intoxicated asleep in his car to drive through and one route is the care route what's going on in? This guy's lacked the ended up asleep in his car to drive through. How do we get some help? How do we get him home? And the other route is the police route which in this case tragically escalated and Brooks ended up dead. In an alternate universe, what policies could have gotten us to a different outcome in situations like that one? Well and also even there good point, so we've had pastor Carter with our pastures group. We've had chief Brown jeep hall more recently. To speak to pray over and thing to talk about, how can we help as pastors? What do we need to know one of the things that we've seen among the police I think social workers for instance could help when you have say say a mental health. There's some suicidal or are there some mental health issue? We train social workers to help in those particular areas. If there's not a firearm in ball and you've got. A fewer knee less need for police. When we've talked to beliefs, they feel like they're having to do everything and and they have met those kinds of ideas with. Yes, we can't do all things should. There have been someone other than? To be called into come to address a situation like that, you know perhaps I think our police are are just overwhelmed with all they're doing. There's a different way to come about public safety. I think to bring the helped our police need. Rep before we hit record, told you all that we'd take about thirty minutes of your time. And here we are forty five minutes later and still going. So I apologize for that become, so let's wrap up, but we can't go without getting you to tackle or usual interview closer, which is what are we not talking enough about that? We should be talking more about. We asked this question actually last season on an episode to Byron, Sanders CEO of big thought, and without pausing right away, he said systemic racism, and gave this really passionate beautifully thought out answer. And months later here we are, and so you really should have been listening to him all along. So. What would you want to add on this subject a really any subject that we need to be focused on tackling together and Whoever wants to go first go for it, and and whoever doesn't be thinking about what your answer should be. Well so, what comes to my mind quickly is a personal note. I guess we're here. Because a pastor Carter and I saw to gets know each other. You know I've. Come to love him as a brother, he's A. He's a father like I am. He's A. He's a husband like I am. He's A. He's a son He's you know he's a friend. And that happens in relationships. We say the gospel of the good news they were all about. As fast as believers pastors an in all believers. The Gospel travels speed relationships, and so what we need to do is talk about how to connect people. In relationships to be proactive. Others who don't look like you and you learn their story and you learn history. Of of of people that you would know otherwise, so that would be my great challenge for the listeners is to be proactive people. How did you guys get to Know Each Other? And you know the quick answer is? We had lunch together. And we can all do something like that I'm finding myself these days I would say again to the white. Person People of You know in positions of influence and Privilege Watch for opportunities to to bless. We've been blessed to be a blessing. And that can happen today I now I'm seeing the black brother or sister person I wanNA I. WanNa let them know I. Love Them, I. Don't even know I'm Gonna I'm GonNa hold the door for I'm going to say hi to him I wanna smile and let them know they mad or I'm going to speak to them. It's something we can all do every day. I would just say that it's all about. Relationships? Let's look for opportunities to develop deeper and better relationships with each other. You know this is the topic of the day, but is there something that we're not talking about that? We should be talking about. No I think just the conversation around. Racism in America I think is an important conversation I mean I think I think to have the courage to begin to talk about it I think it's crucial because I think people are really struggling to figure out what to do I mean I'm talking to pastor. We're talking. Business leader. We're talking to this concern. Citizens in is a an incredibly important topic, because everyone's trying to figure out. What does this mean for me and I? Think the thing I've learned. A what I'm learning is that everyone can play apart? From pressure from from. Broadening mop mop circle. From the people that I have with lunch with in my home, the people I go out with. Too much children's why, until the relationship with my children's friends cultivating those of diversity to who had business waited to where I spend my money at do I have always been in the same circle that can also broad net as well to a more diverse circle to what I do for enjoyment or oral to church. You know I mean. I think there's there's something ever sending the more that we can broaden our perspective, and here's what they always work in May not. Be a positive experience. There are some challenges there of all of our cultures. That can be challenging. But I think if as I look at it from where I sit every single one of us can do so all of us can brought I had lunch last week that a program and asset next to a young man of twenty years old lives in highland park, and we begin, which is one of the more neighbors in our community and we never added. Added at never had a conversation with someone twenty years old, and so it was fascinating for me to kind of understand his world and his friends, so that's why like every single person, no matter where you are having verse circle in examining how you do live helps as eat to really develop better better view a broader perspective and helps us to value more. Beautiful Well Rhonda Patrick Carter Pastor Warren kept he roughly twice as long as I promised, I would so thanks again so much for your generosity of time to record this with the so soon after your last conversation, and during a really busy time for you look forward to seeing you in person soon. Your gas. Station thank you. Guys. If you want to hear more from Pastor, Brian Carter Visit Concord Churches. Website at Concord Dallas Dot Org, that's con. CEO RD DALLAS DOT Org. and. He wants to hear more from Passer Jeff. Warren Visit Park. Baptist Church at P. C. B. C. Dot Org. 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Best of The Herd: 11/15/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

41:56 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 11/15/2019

"This just in it's officially fall and that means a lot of things to a lot of people. The leaves are changing color. It's time to break out. The pumpkins breakout the football and most importantly breakout break out. The truly hard seltzer truly has only one hundred calories but as five percent. ABC and only one gram of sugar per container. It's the can't miss drink of of the season don't take my word for it. Truly hard seltzer today. Truly drink what you truly want. Thanks for listening to the best of love heard podcast be sure to catch US live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio One. Find your local station for the hurt at Fox sports radio DOT COM or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox sports radio. Oh here we go on. A lively suspension filled fine filled Friday. This is the heard word wherever you may be in. However you may be listening iheartradio Fox sports radio? NFS One blazing my strongest. I swear to you of the year in one hour. Feel great with my blazing five joy Taylor Taylor from Pittsburgh Mason Rudolph may have driven her nuts last night for the first three and a half hours. You find yourself defending him after that. Debacle that embarrassing embarrassing league-wide the buckle last night. Let's blame it on the browns not the NFL. What did you think well discuss that all day? But I mean it's it's it's a rivalry intentions are high but you can never turn the game off to watch the very last second. Do and let me start with that the NFL has come down breaking news. myles Garrett suspended indefinitely out for the year for playoffs so Cleveland thought they won last night. You're still behind the steelers dealers in the standings. Let me start with this stop defending myles Garrett Ohio get off the Internet. You've embarrassed yourself long enough in the League for your play you're embarrassing in yourself for defending myles Garrett if I jumped you in a bar and then seven seconds later hit you over the head with a beer bottle in those seven seconds. When I'm on top of you you have a right to grab me wherever you want and swing wildly to defend yourself? Mason Rudolph was illegally early attacked a penalty and a guy thirty pounds heavier than him jumps on top of it. Miles Rudolph can do whatever the hell he wants for those seven seconds between getting hit illegally penalty getting hit over the head with a helmet. It's called self defense gay. You knocked me down and get on me in your forty pounds heavier. I'll scratch scratch clog grab any party you I want. That's called self defense. That is a write in America. Judicial Right forget sports. Stop Stop It. This is one hundred percent on myles Garrett. You know what this is in baseball pitcher I throw it. You hit you rush to. The plate grabbed the bat and hit you over the fence. And you're making the pitcher the victim. No Mason. Rudolph has a right to Self-defense. Self Defense as a forty pound man heavier forty pounds heavier attacking him mean Myles Garrett is one of the NFL leaders in late hits and penalties. You you don't know if the guy is wired right after he throws the helmet he's not so this is one hundred percent on myles Garrett you. I can't walk. Walk Up to you. Tackle you too Barbie on top and you can't fight back you grab my. Is You. Grab Your Car Keys. You Stab me. You do whatever that self defense then I grab a bottle and bang you over the head with it it. The cops aren't going to come in and go. He stuck in with car keys in the neck. They'RE GONNA go. Hey good move you got him off you hundred percent myles Garrett second thing is is there something called foreshadowing you see movies. You see it in books called foreshadowing giving clues through a movie you watched the end of the movie and you go. Oh those little hints through the Movie Lot of foreshadowing in that game last night. Five or six helmet on helmet hits by the BROWNS. That was very much Buddy Ryan in the nineties nineties. That was very much Greg Williams. That was very much a message and a plan going into that game by Cleveland. That's called foreshadowing. The clues throughout off the game now myles Garrett all the game. You're like these incidental helmet on helmet hits these and then you watch that the late head on Mason in the helmet foreshadowing. This was a game plan now now Freddie Kitchens got very defensive about that what do people get defensive about. When they're guilty they get very defensive? Here's Freddie Kitchens. Cleveland coach after the game on that number okay fights did you say that. Did you say okay fights. I never okay fights nights that I want them to get after their ass. Yes I did but that's not fighting. That's not after the whistle with US between the whistles yes never condoned fighting on a football field because that's penalties coach. Penalties coach false starts. I don't coach after the whistle the grabbing. Somebody's face masks coach. That gaythers Greg Williams or Buddy Ryan but there's messages Dad's coaches can send and there was clearly clearly last night. They're coming to our place. Multiple Helmet on helmet. Heads a steeler bleeding from the years then the tackle late late in the game on Mason Rudolph game no longer in doubt then the helmet Freddie. Nobody thinks you went in there and said grab a helmet and hit Mason. Rudolph you don't have to but does a culpability and our responsibility. As head coach. To as an older man teaching younger men words matter and the messaging pitching was clear last night from the opening kickoff be dirty and cheap. The third thing is if Cleveland would a loss last night Freddie Kitchens would would be fired today because GM John. Dorsey wants to fire him to save Baker Mayfield who he should never have taken with the number one pick and the owner Jimmy has lem wants to fire him. And Maybe Abi John Dorsey. But because Cleveland one two game winning streak chance to make the playoffs. I don't think so but many do they won't fire him. But Cleveland does now have an out they can be martyrs. Freddie Kitchens has done. It doesn't matter what happens. Freddie Kitchens has done first of all they're not not get into the playoffs. They are not beating Baltimore. I don't think era Zona beaten. And they're a mess but now they can go. This was outrageous. John Dorsey can go. We are this says outrageous. This is this is an embarrassment to the organization. We do not teach that Freddie Kitchens bus go. They would do that today if they lost they would do it today. They'd have an out they could be martyrs news. But it's Cleveland low self esteem. I mean they're two games below five hundred this morning and they're all thinking. They made the playoffs already. That's Cleveland in a nutshell Pittsburgh. This morning's you know a five hundred team and they think we gotta get our stuff together. You wake up this morning Pittsburgh still ahead of Cleveland. Cleveland already planning a parade for the playoffs but Freddie Kitchens would be fired this morning if they lost a game because they want him out everybody knows they want him out. But Cleveland knows the reputation. The optics are horrible. They don't want to fire another other coach after a steeler game in the season so they won't fire but now they have the out to fire him they can be the martyrs. This is outrageous. This is disgusting. We feel terrible this would never be condoned although clearly the messaging last night we know what it was once again myles Garrett out for the year out for the playoffs baseball would do who'd you hit somebody with a bat a helmet ways what four or five pounds whatever it weighs inexcusable. I'm not going to go as far as to call it assault. It's sports. It's assault outrageous one hundred percent myles Garrett I think there was messaging by Cleveland going into that game and let me let me then Segue to this because Cleveland does deserve one. One person does deserve accolades Baker. Mayfield forget his play. I couldn't give a rip after the game. They'll last night. He was what he rarely is in what I criticize him for. He was a grown-up he was adult. He was not emotional. He was bottom line. He was totally spot on talking about that vicious play by myles Garrett. I didn't see why it started But it's inexcusable. That you know. I don't care rivalry or not. We can't do that. That's kind of the history of what's been going on here lately hurting yourself and that's just endangering the other team it's inexcusable. He knows does that does now. The reality is he's GonNa get suspended We don't know how long that hurts team and we can't do that. We can't continue intending to hurt this team. That's an excusable. Tip The cat Baker Mayfield. That's what quarterback should say no excuses. Don't blame Mason. Mason Rudolph like the idiotic Brown fans totally on US totally inexcusable and by the way golf clap to Baker Mayfield who I'm very critical of spot fought on inexcusable. But it's not going to change. And this is why bakers never gonNA reach his ultimate potential Baker. Mayfield a lot better. Then we've seen this year. He's not as good as we saw him at the end of last year against Cincinnati twice. But he's a lot better than this but he'll never reaches potential in the NFL. He may make a pro bowl as a backup backup. But I covered the Portland Trailblazers Oregonian newspaper called in jail. Blazers gave him that term because they were so dysfunctional. The reason they were that dysfunctional is because the general enroll manager a very smart guy. Who I like Bob? WHITSITT didn't care about character. That was the coaches issue and Bob would just go find players that a personalities didn't match they weren't responsible possible they weren't adult the chemistry stanks and he would just give it to the coach and say figured out that John Dorsey by the way do you know. The browns actually released a wide receiver before the game. Last night. Anthony Calloway knucklehead drafted everybody else passed. This is what John Dorsey is so Baker Mayfield going to have to overcome. goofy teammates immature chur teammates teammates to hit people with helmets teammate. Get thrown off the team before a Thursday night game with the steelers. This is what Baker Mayfield reality is when when you have a general manager and I covered one and he was really smart and I think John Dorsey is really smart and Bob. WHITSITT could see talent. I'll never deny that John Dorsey can see talent but there are are these guys that run these teams that don't care about chemistry. They don't care about maturity and I covered one and doors. He's one he doesn't doesn't care he doesn't care. Ob Jay who by the way not a character issue but is personnel bring them in for Baker Kareem Hunt. Bring Him Dan. Calloway bring them in. Coach will figure it out. Well maybe that works if you got Pete Carroll or Mike Tomlin or bill belichick. It doesn't work if he got Freddie Kitchens who probably shouldn't even be a head coach coach so the the reality Baker Mayfield career sub optimal owner. GM that doesn't give a rip about character and fourth coach in three years starting next year. Freddie's done that guarantee that last night he'll never reach. His potential doesn't mean bakers better than what you're seeing bakers occurs better than this year. There's no question but you Patrick. Mahomes is talented enough to overcome Carson. wentz Patrick Mahomes to Shawn Watson. You know these guys are talented enough. Let Andrew Luck overcame a pulse owner badge terrible line wrong coach bakers not that. He's not lock. He's not the Sean he's not that he's a fine young quarterback who were they very competent experienced coach Mike McCarthy with a very good the GM who surrounded him. Chris Ballard with good character guys an owner. That's not impulsive but patient Baker could end up with a nice twelve year career. Make a pro bowl or to maybe as a backup in the AFC get to a playoff game or to win one or two not a super bowl guy having to carry a team but this this is what he's going to have to deal with last night. He wants that game last night. DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT CLEVELAND. Did the most undisciplined team. I've ever seen in my life even when they win. You're you're like Oh. I don't feel good about that same with buffalo last week. We're like yeah. They won but did you see him in the reds on my stomach hurts just a mess be shortage catch. Live editions of the Heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP. Hi It's the heard. The team of EM drive makes it easy one supplement every day. Too Few your drive. I take it you should too it. reenergize your body look better feel better. It's packed back clinically tested ingredients. They're designed to activate your body's natural ability to support healthy tea levels with more energy lean muscle strength feeling tired. Tired me to jumpstart get drive. It works does for me. The drive team is so confident. It'll work they'll give you your money back if you don't look and feel better within two months sixty days all begins with you though. Reenergize your body get active lineup. Get him drive. 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He's on a pitch count second baseman. You're sick get out. Their quarterback is do you see this in business all the time that our department in every business the people that have certain access. You don't quarterbacks are that employees you protect them once you get drilled late. I don't I need any pictures from Ohio. Guy Will Mason Rudolph grab this. He can grab whatever he wants. He was illegally hit. He is vulnerable. quarterbacks can't in common then somebody bunks on the head with a helmet. I one hundred percent support all quarterbacks here they can be blindside hit. They're the most valuable. Well they're really the least protected and so I have no I think the NFL is sending a message. Don't mess with quarterbacks period in fact I think if Myles Garrett would have done most of this against another player You may maybe afford a six game suspension. This is a message by the NFL. Don't kid yourself quarterback nothing. They got the tape. Nothing player out maybe forever caso Freddie Kitchens and Cleveland Blend. This is typical Cleveland browns. They came in wanting to send a message the NFL sent one to them. Your best player out indefinitely. Never never mess with a quarterback and I would be defending Baker Mayfield today if a steeler did the same thing. You got to protect these quarterbacks. They're not like everybody the else. We don't compensate them the same they got. They wear a special shield at practice. You can't hit them. The same that double says about college football. You can transfer all you want. But I think if you're college quarterback you should be able to transfer one time 'cause you put so much irreparable damage if you're bouncing around in and out of programs and college coach wakes up on day goes they have a quarterback the whole program. You can make it with a bad left tackle. You can't play without a quarterback so in the thing I saw last night you know what I watched that was a four hours. Slugfest between two bad teams Here's what I saw last night. This is Baltimore's division it's over. This is Baltimore's division Asian Baltimore's got the best coach. They got the best identity. They got the best young quarterback by far they got the best tight ends. They got the improving defense. Maybe not as good as the steelers. But it's getting better. They've got experience a great front office. Great Scout to get Marcus Peters. That's what last night was. Everybody thinks it's about steelers browns. That game was about Baltimore season over division over these two teams are not playoff teams. And this is what happens in November and the NFL is that you can start eliminating teams. You see certain things certain images like the rams against the steelers you're like Oh hell the rams interior offensive line. That's not fixable. Rams are not a playoff team out you watch Chicago Kogo. Two weeks ago against Philadelphia bears had one first half I down boom out. They can't play at the next level against an elite defensive line and you know the NFC got phillies. He's lying cowboys. Line San Francisco Saints Line so you see these indelible images in November. You can't cancel a team in September or October but by November nine or or ten games in problems there too late to fix you. Just don't have you don't have any remedy you don't have a trade deadline it's over. These teams are done Cleveland. Here's how bad Cleveland colonise that you didn't know. Cleveland had this game wrapped up until Mason Rudolph through his fourth. Pick your one hundred twenty yards in penalties. This game aim at home should have been over. Pittsburgh was on their backup quarterback their third string running back and lost their two best arguable to best receivers and it wasn't done until until Mason Rudolph through his fourth pick because Cleveland's an undisciplined tire fire and is for Pittsburgh they're done. I said this yesterday. It's the AFC you got Tom Brady. I got Patrick. MAHOMES got their car. I got Lamar Jackson. I got this Shawn Watson Mason. Rudolph I mean come on this. Let's just stop the nonsense. Maybe one of these teams sneaks in. But I don't think so Tennessee's better Ryan Tannehill can play a little bit. Oakland's better Indianapolis has a very jacoby percents coming back. The chargers Philip Rivers. These are awful. I mean listen I I really love Pittsburgh's history. I love their culture. I love. There's so much about Pittsburgh but when you get to November you can just start canceling checks. I mean you watch the Rams Oh line you're going to hell. You can't fix that it's too late you watch Chicago trubisky. They can't move the ball with a good deal on Philadelphia. A A season's over these teams. This is Baltimore's division Baltimore's better at everything identity align coach now secondary. It's over this was a mess that did this was just. I sat there and if I didn't work for Fox I mean I was like I got to watch this because I gotTa talk about it tomorrow morning on my show. If I didn't work today I just turn the game off. Those are not playoff teams. What's going on everybody? John Middlekauff Oka- podcast. That's me that's the show goes. Subscribe if you like football. Because that's all I talk coming up on this show. Thursday night football involve myles Garrett suspended for the year Pittsburgh steelers. Where do they go from here? And you know all dive into the cavern workout this Saturday also game by game on a playoff teams fighting for position. Coming up I got you covered three and our podcast me. John Middlekauff the good liar Pairs Helen. In Marin and Ian mckellen onscreen for the very first time in a showdown of what happens when the perfect mark becomes the perfect match. The good liar is a smart suspense pence thriller about the secrets. People keep the lies. They live that will keep audiences guessing about who's calling whom until the very end brought to life by two legendary actors mckellan at the height of their craft. The film offers a fun unpredictable. Game of cat-and-mouse in the vein of a hitchcock thriller imbued with Intrigue Danger and surprising twist us on November fifteenth. Read between the lies from director. Bill Condon the good liars rated R. Under Seventeen not admitted without parent parent only in theaters November fifteenth. If you watch that myles Garrett play. I've watched like four hundred times. You know there was not a penalty initially on that hit. The should've I've been yes. I mean they're lucky. I mean Cleveland is it was a late hit jumps on top of him throws the helmet. I mean it. Just a undisciplined. Mass of franchise. Just a complete utter mass hundred twenty yards thing about that. Cleveland dominated the game last night like dominated the game you needed a fourth interception adoption with Mason Rudolph quarterbacking to go at home. Okay it's ours. You think you're going to beat Baltimore Arizona Pittsburgh I AH I. They're they're they are so but again. Cleveland doesn't get the best of anything. The best people. Don't WANNA WORK IN CLEVELAND. They don't WanNa work for the BROWNS. You don't get the best scout you don't get the best coordinators nadirs. It's not the best staff the best people in the NBA. Let's be honest. Don't want to work for the cavs. They don't WanNa work for the Browns minute. Do you think it's a coincidence. That the Indians Brown's sounds you know cavaliers. If you take Lebron James Out of the city of Cleveland. They're mostly bad the last twenty years. It's an old world economy. It's not a place players. WanNa go kind of Saint Louis. It's kind of a Hartford. It's kind of a Cleveland. It's an old world economy but I mean it's just it's it's they're so hard to watch watch such a mess just again when you keep this is this is something I don't think people in Cleveland are stand if if the rams am's called you can get the best regional scout in the country in La because staying crunchies the richest donor. People WanNa live in Los Angeles if the Patriots called if the steelers called there are organizations in the NFL that if they call you you pick the phone up and go. Oh Arthur blank You know you look at the Benson family. Mickey loomis Sean Payton. And they called you and said regional scouting director for the saints. You'd be like Sean Payton Gale Benson. I get Mickey Loomis. You know they're they're just like anybody else. It's it's like the best Tom. Hanks gets the best scripts cade ninety nine percent of actors. Don't get the best scripts to get garbage. They one episode bit things on TV shows. That don't last. The reality is Cleveland. You'll never get the best people you'll never get the best scouts you'll never get the bet they don't WanNa work for you. That thing last night is just. It's Cleveland blended. The fans were cheering as I. Don't blame Fanta fans. I mean they are what they are but you you just keep running through these coaches. You'RE GONNA when Cleveland Calls. They call agents because coaches are all represented by agents. That's the way it works in the NFL. So all the best coaches in the NFL have the best agents right. That's-that's like Nick Saban's got Jimmy Sexton urban. Meyer probably had like Jimmy Sexton like there's three or four agents in the NFL when they call you and ask. WOULD YOU GO TO CLEVELAND. The top people like cigna not not not interested. So that's what you get you get bad. Coaching bad coordinators bad assistance mess but that that myles Garrett hit on Mason Rudolph that should have been a penalty to I think they just didn't call 'cause there's five seconds left like it was it was borderline. I feel like it was a penalty but I think they just didn't. They didn't throw flag because the game was essentially over. You know it's funny. Because Cleveland won the game and I think there are some people that think. This is a high point for Cleveland. But just think about this if I think about the AFC. The two best quarterbacks to to best young quarterbacks in the NFL arguably Shawn Watson. And Patrick. Mahomes I'm not even mentioning Lamar Jackson in your own division. And Lamar is getting better and big band coming back in your own. Division and two is going to Cincinnati and then you have to Shawn Watson Patrick Mahomes New England. Brady's not I'M GONNA retire. Oakland legit Indie Jacoby. perset comes back. I mean it's like this we have just oh Cleveland's at a high point everybody lamarche getting better to Shawn's getting better mahomes getting healthy. Brady's going nowhere big bands coming back to is going to end up in your division. The the quarterback next year are going. It'd be big band. Lamar Jackson too and Baker. Mayfield this next five game stretch. That may be your Mardi Gras. That may be as good as it gets because I don't see next year ear. Let's ask Georgia she this morning. K Big Ben Returns next year. Who's favored in the AFC north? Be Baltimore Baltimore Baltimore who will be picked second steelers so this this year. This was the year the witness was opportunity. Yeah Big Ben's out in a big Ben's is back and Lamar's better and Shawn's better and Patrick's healthy and Brady Belgian or great and the raiders thing Derek cars good and to is going to go on your division and by the way it's not dramatic the browns just going to go back to being exactly what the browns are all the time irrelevant and not even as much fun as Cincinnati. Who is GONNA be fun? One more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week with the iheartradio APP. Search her listen live or on demand. Whenever you light Mike let me let me Go to one game in particular. Lamar Jackson against to Shawn Watson. I like the Texans in this game. I think Lavar Jackson's a great kid. A great story I it this is what's interesting about football. We forget this all the time. Lamar Jackson comes into the NFL. He's got a better coach right right now. Then to Shawn Watson he's got a better offensive line he's got a better star running back he may have a better defense. Probably Does Better Secondary Baltimore's a better organization. Structurally with better players. They have better tight ends than Houston. The Mar- Jackson's inheriting a really good roster Mr and a really good organization. and He's been good. He's a coach -able kid he's working his butt off and they're doing some things schematically that's taken the league a little while to pick up on and they're getting better and better because they draft well to me Shawn Watson is Andrew Luck just cross my fingers. He survives. He's Andrew Luck he comes into the NFL impulsive owner baggy m wrong or a coach. We don't love and a terrible offensive line on an Andrew Luck into Shawn Watson. Win Eleven Games and win their division. It makes no sense and they can't win games in the playoffs. Because you know. They're not that good. They're saving saving the franchise to Sean Andrew. Luck hurt had to take a bus last year to a game he really is. He is so uniquely. Gifted like Andrew. Luck Doc and I've said this before Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers could not overcome. What does Shawn has the last couple years? Shawn's Andrew Luck Lamar's good. But there's a Lotta tapper nick with Lamar. He's got Kharbatha coach. He's Got Greg Roman as a coordinator. It is a power running team built around him with our feeling doing that. And and for the record cabernet big green bay twice cabinet got to a super bowl. Don't kid yourself. I got fooled by Capper Nick for two years in this league I would go on the air every day and go. Oh I think that's the future of the NFL so now. I'm a little reluctant to go with Lamar Jackson that's the future of the NFL. I think the future of the NFL is to Shawn Watson. Great Athlete can make place is a wizard but eventually sit in. The pocket throws the ball good highschool good college good pro good thrower. So when I see Shawn Watson icy the Andrew Luck when I see Lamar a little Kapernick and in the end I always felt luck as long as he could stay healthy. It's a fifteen year run camper. Nick I kind of felt fooled on him now. I do think Lamar has more throws the ball. How do I say this cavern had a huge arm but the joke was everything was a fastball? Fault had no touch screen pass throw it through a battleship. where I think Mars got better touch? I think he's very comfortable. I think he's got some leadership stuff. Cabernet doesn't but I like Houston Houston in this game and I said this yesterday Deshaun Watson. Here's another reason. He's Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck came into this league and because he had the neck beard and he had a book club and he didn't they have a personality and talk all these other. Young quarterbacks are g three we fell in love with. And I'm like no Andrew Goodwin to Shawn Watson comes into this league he Mitch Trubisky Bisky in the same conference gets drafted over him. His coach starts Tom Savage over him. Then Patrick mahomes comes in and we talk about him or and now just about the time we want to put her arms around the Shawn Watson. Go man you are so good. Yes Lamar Jackson guys. Unbelievable like luck into Sean. Can we just put her arms around him. They're doing what I don't think other people can do. I don't think anybody else in my lifetime. Maybe maybe Russell Wilson Andrew Luck in the Shawn Watson Ron Houston having GM India the wrong one coach. We don't love battle line no running game and you look up winning their division. Tom Brady can't do that. The Garry Rogers can do that. So I like the Sean this weekend I I like Houston. I think they're real good and I'll tell you this. We all banged on this organization when they went and got Laremy Tunsil and gave up too many picks that old line now left side Surreal O.. Line they've quietly. They have a real running game. So to Sean. Now's got a left tackle and reel. NFL running backs. I know y'all have Baltimore in the Super Bowl I'd strongly considered Houston. I'd strongly considered to me this morning. You Know Patriots Houston Houston. I totally buy that. I think we're a little high now on Baltimore and we've forgotten Houston into Shawn Watson in by the way it's not that I don't like Lamar I do. But they're doing some stuff schematically. Greg Cosell talked about it yesterday. The League is trying to figure out Baltimore. Everybody's figured out in Wayland. They can't stop them. You can figure out Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes. You can't stop them. Baltimore's doing some stuff schematically which is new and people are trying to figure it out. Here's Greg Cosell. It's very low risk but extremely hard to defend. They play with multiple tight ends a lot. So what do defenses. Do they line up with their base personnel fennell which means they have bigger slower people on the field and now they run their offense the Ravens this multiple run dimension offence that spread you out out horizontally so I'm curious what defensive coordinators will do going forward because they're playing with slow people against a Lamar Jackson interesting stuff. I can't wait for that my favorite game to watch this weekend. Take the Texans to win that game outright. I don't think it's a big upset and I think we're undervaluing. Houston right now be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific by the way Eric Dickerson. And I have something in common. He didn't eat before a game and I don't eat before a workout. 'cause I feel fast I feel bad light. I always felt like never before I worked outside. Fly around the gym okay. So can you explain blaming. You've been in fights yes okay. You were feisty so myles Garrett takes his helmet off explain what a football players thinking well first of all you gotta understand you go into a game to a game and it's all about context about hitting you know you hear him. He didn't kill him. KNOCK DOC him out. You know that. That's the mentality you have a game. That is a very violent game. You have a a game that as a divisional game. They don't like each other. and You you know Mason. Rudolph tried to grab him after the sack you know. Pull his helmet off and you know he's really mad because you know you just. That's how football is you hyped up and all of a sudden shirks his helmet off and you have to give David decastro credit. I don't think anybody's really said much about this. What he did? He's he's really say both of them because he tackled miles gary I mean just kind of held invalid. Hey man settled down like settled down the only one that he was gonNA listen at. That point was one of his teammates of someone. Like a Dave decastro was like look at it. He's holding hey just as he punched him. But you lose your cool I mean you. Do you ever lose your most definitely. I lost my cool before but not like this. I I would never put my helmet off and that. That's Tister straps your money make you ask them. That's it because because we've had to fight with the jets and John Robertson said before the game look they've got hurt gives a sack. Don't you let that silly. Dan's and you got it on. Jackie and Jackie pushed him and the fight was on. I mean both pitches. What happened to Jackie? The ground someone. I'm we're fighting everywhere it's fights everywhere. I mean we see we're fighting. I mean Lord all my God where are you. I'm somewhere I I had a defensive back somewhere and and then a I can't think of his name your so your coach said don't let them do that dance. Snell okay there you are to the left. Yep I went on a row or there's Vince Ferragamo because I was downfield by the DB so when they start grabbed a defensive back was holding him back to fighting. I mean it was finds everywhere. But don't use ban this mayhem. It's mayhem everywhere. See back in those days they show in the fight now. They've cut away from the fight. I mean because you don't want to have that image of the National Football Bother fighting it Ryan but that's good stuff is gone. It's still it's still. What about Mason? Rudolph people want him suspended. I think a quarterback should protect. Here's the thing I said this if I walked into a bar and I jumped on you and I was bigger and then an eight seconds. I hit you with a beer bottle in the eight seconds between I jumped on you and the beer bottle you have a right to gouge is. You're defending yourself. I gotTA got. It's forty five pounds heavier on me. I'm doing all grab your stuff I'll do. I'll do whatever I gotta do so to me. Mason Rudolph I'm going to give you a lot of latitude. If a big guy hits you late penalty jumps on top pinch it down. I'm GONNA give you latitude on that. Well Mason Rudolph can start. He didn't start it. I mean look this is I'm gonNA say again. This is football. This is a rough tough sport. He grabbed Garrett's helmets trying to pull his helmet off. That kind of started it all that guy. The late hit started at all but were yeah. I mean yesterday it started out but that that would. That's that's what got kicked off but when you get into a fight in a football game you're not thinking about the ramp. You're not thinking I'm get suspended. You know I'm hurting my team you thinking about I'm fighting. I don't care what nobody says. Would nobody does only people that can really get control. You would be your teammates and in. This case is not in his his teammates. Is David Decastro. That held him down and really I think about this could have turned out very tragic. I mean he could hit him in the forehead and killed killed him. Hit Him in. The side is hit and killed him with him. That's why the the suspension by the indefinite the NFL's GonNa you're out for the year. We may keep you out till next year right like even in the fight. We this showed with you guys. I mean just throwing punches. We see fights almost every week. This was a weapon League Baseball Bat. If I if I threw it your head and came after you with a bat like it's funny baseball baseball you would be so ostracized as a baseball player if you used a baton a player I don't think players would ever let you in in football. It happened in baseball. Nothing in the sixties and a half dead and that guy was one mirror shell right But I think that player was so ostracized. I don't remember the repercussions but in football while there is violence. So I think I think players will support Myles Garrett eventually but I think it's best to get him out of the League right now. He has to sit the whole season. I you know I think what would happen is once assisted because miles look Mama's not that guy. He's not a dirty player. Oh no he's not he's not a dirty players and he's not a dirty player hit panel hills delay pill penalties Because how the League has changed when I look at some of the penalty they call him the guys throwing the ball and they they want the defensive player to stop in his tracks. Stop your momentum. Don't hit don't hit out presses quarter back you know. Hey He's on the football field he's gotTa get hit sometime. I mean I don't want to hear it but you gotta get him and I don't like I don't like the the calls to protect the quarterback protector. What about the poll? runningback protect us. Case let me ask you about this so you said John Robinson who I don't know but watch for years you said Robinson said don't let Gastineau do that silly dance. Go after him. I here's what I said when I watched him as they go after he didn't say go after he just said don't do that silly Dan. How can't you what that meals so Freddie Kitchens last night four helmet-to-helmet hits by Cleveland? It felt real Buddy Ryan to me then the Myles Garrett thing do you think Freddie kitchen should be their coach coach. Well you know. That's not my. That's not my job because when you watch. What do you see? I see a team. That's really in disarray. Very dysfunctional survey. I I see that you have to have you have to have discipline. I mean and you don't have to do it in a form of like. I'm the head coaching you the players. You're not do you have to respect is earned is what it is is earned is like it's like discipline is something that you know you work at you earn it you know. I want my two players to be disciplined. You would never see nothing like this in New England. You just wouldn't see that you wouldn't see it in. La The colts by they respect their respective coach. I mean this. This is a young coach I mean and so I just feel like they got so many different personalities on this Cleveland Browns team. You got you know you expect expect so much now. Say this much if the Cleveland browns right now we're eight and one and even this would have happened this happened you know. They wouldn't be talking about Freddie Kitchens job job at all. It wouldn't be a it. Would I think got fired. I think they don't want him there and Eric. This is an easy out. Cleveland at the end of the year can say we were so embarrassed. By what is it was so not us. We believe we have. I think they can be a martyr. WATCH CLICK BECAUSE CLEVELAND. Cleveland doesn't want him there. You know John. Dorsey knows he doesn't want him there. I well I think this signals the end winner lose okay. Let's move this okay. You have a relationship with the Los Angeles. Rams I'm aware of finger pointing at Jared Goff. Does he deserve it some of it. Yes he does. I mean right now I he has he has fourteen turnovers. He has Nana's honest. You can't turn the ball over fourteen hundred nine games. You have to take some of it. I mean it's no different from myself. I was go back to the game. I played against the Washington redskins and the play three turnovers and I. I lost that game. That would I put it on but you have to take some of it but you had to put someone to hear coach to Sean McVeigh. Because because look we know that our offensive line is beat up office. Atlanta's now what it is but you have to put your quarterback in a position to succeed and you have to run on the football. We don't run the football. I'm sorry we just don't I mean I running football. I feel for Todd Gurley. I'm frustrated for for him because I know he wants to run the ball. You don't see Zeke splitting time. You don't see McCaffrey splitting time. You don't see Saquon Barkley spending time as a running back back. You have to get into a rhythm. It's all about a rhythm you got you caring about twelve times six times time. You can't get into a rhythm doing that people's ties not the same. You cared about twelve times what you wanted to rip off a sixty yard on every orsay. Do you like twenty five twenty five cares. I'm I'm into it now. I'm into and I couldn't take it. I mean that's what you want. I think todd like the Bali's twenty is this. He rushed the ball ran the ball. Twenty Times called five of six passes. That's that's he's in a rhythm them all of a sudden you are the game you back in the game. Maybe six six series later four series later. How do you get into rhythm? You can't get into really I'll say some of this has to come show. McVeigh I mean you have to find a way to get your best player. which is Todd Gurley into the game? Even though it opposite land is beat up you have to committed to the run community. It's a it's a commitment San Francisco. They're committed to the run Seattle a committed to the run last night. The Cleveland Browns are committed Mitterrand the football. We have no commitment to the run. We are a passing football team and no car like I see it. You have to put some of his own. The head coach Sean. mcvay and offensive line. beat up is not the same. But you if you if you the head coach you have to come up with a with a way to help our quarterback out I mean he is what he it is and we know that I mean he's he's not that guy he's Matt Ryan. He's not to shots exactly. He's not a guy who's going to run out the parking runs it. He's not he's a guy that can he make a move right to left a little bit but you can't ask them to run fifteen to twenty yards three or four times that's not going to happen. Eric Dickerson the hall of Famer. That fight video was spectacular thereby you I don't condone violence but Love to see you. Mix It up a little bit college. Stop Dr Q.. 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He's a super bowl. Champion was drafted to the Patriots in the first round of the two thousand four. Nfl draft played with Tom for a long time and drew brees anybody for the Browns for Bit Lazy Journal. Benjamin Ben Thank you so much for joining us. I apologize for being a little bit late. That news about the Andre Hopkins and Billy O'Brien's relationship broke this morning on. Get up shortly after you on there so I apologize because stories breaking especially nowadays it by the way. Let's get right to it. Tom Brady Tampa Bay. Have you ever played with Bruce? Arians in a Bruce Arians style offense or broussard. Style team you have played with Tom Brady for a long. How do you think that fit is going to be both grammatically and personally between the two of them I have not played with Bruce and every met him but I hear great things about him obviously offensively? He's one of those guys as kind of a very very well respected when it comes to. Nfl circles. Thomas Tom and I gotta believe that for him to go there. There's an understanding of kind of a A melting of the two styles You Know Tom is the guy. That's not. Just go somewhere just to play at this point. He's going somewhere to win. He's also going somewhere where he's going to have some sort of control. Some sort of input I think in the offense Going forward he has the weapons that he wants. He thinks he can help. Build Somebody that's forty something years old was to have some sort of control An input when it comes to the the efforts that he's GonNa put forth on the field so I'm looking forward to seeing how how it turned out. Okay let's talk about that forty years old and wanted to have some input on the efforts on the field and everything like that. I got a chance to play alongside deep down the roster behind Peyton manning and he ran literally ran if he wanted to. He could run everything in the building if he wanted to. I don't think he did mostly football stuff. If he wanted to repeat stuff or short in practice or longer length in practice a workout. Peyton manning could do that so when Andrew lucked came in I wanted to Andrew Luck to be more like peyton manning. I'm like I wanted Andrew luck to it by the way. That's a tall task due to a twenty two year old or twenty three year old like you're a CEO of a team. Now if you want a guy cut you go up to that head coach. Gm and say. Hey I want this guy on my team. I don't want this kind of my team from what I keep. Delete what everybody has said. That has basically talked about how Tom Brady gets treated the exact same as everybody else by Bill Belichick. Did he have any of that type of say in where the meetings were? Tom Brady will get laser. Pointed in front of everybody. Was that drawn blown out of proportion or is that accurate like Tom? Brady was just treated as a rookie. Basically his entire career. And if that's the case I can definitely see how he would get upset about that relationship after twenty years of that type of thing happening. Coach coach Belichick doesn't have a lot of favoritism But I think that even within that obviously there are levels. There are certain levels of respect. But we'll begin those team meeting rooms as you've heard He treats everybody the same. I remember him telling the junior. Say One time this is not how we do it and everybody was a Paul can believe he will talk to junior that way But I think that's part of the reason why they'd been successful. He's been so successful is because he's able to stay even Keel. He's able to treat everybody the same a guys whether they like it or not. They respected that being said. He's kind of one of a kind in that way. You're probably not going to see that that often when you go to other place at least I've been in other places. There obviously certain levels of respect come with Guys how how much better than they are hell where respected. They are on the team so I I don't know how much that played into it but I do think that. There's the toms first time being a free agent getting to this place and there's something about free agency being able to experience going on the open market Having being courted again being being drawn to different place having been able to step away and say you know these are my demands. Moving forward if I'm going to play in X Y and Z place. And you don't have that when you're not afraid and you don't have that when you're under contract somewhere so. I do think that that may play a part of his decision. But even so he's already said how much he appreciates. New England and his legacy as you know yeah and as Peyton Manning's legacy that's not going to change the guys at to halting careers in a Patriot uniform. Where the wherever he goes from here you know Tamp Laden matter. That's not changing what he's done here. That's so funny. Because if you put up his career he won four one place in one two at the other or he won three three or any of those. Those are all hall of fame. His first his first ten years in his last ten years both hall of fame careers in of themselves. Now he's GonNa end up. Potentially breaking records in Tampa Bay buccaneer uniforms. What do you expect from that team? Do you think they went Super Bowl? Now that they have that leadership they went from forty to one to twenty two and one or two thousand ten to one overnight for Super Bowl. Odds how do you feel about their chances down in Tampa Bay One thing I know is that to win a super bowl in this era. You need a high-calibre functioning quarterback the quarterback the premier position. So I immediately any team. That takes a Tom Brady. Their chances of winning super bowl are going to increase exponentially also know having played sixteen years and watch a lot of football before bet that it is impossible to know. Who's GonNa win the Super Bowl? The odds are always there you know the Patriots are going to be in the mix. There are certain certain teams that are going to be in the mix all the time you know overtime. But you just don't know who's going to emerge from that so I don't know if they're GonNa win the Super Bowl. I do know however that the super bowl is in Tampa. I do know however that. If I'm not mistaken you're a big guru me. There have been no teams that have won a super bowl in their in their home. Homefield So there are a lot of opportunities there. Will you think about this marriage between Tom Brady in Tampa Bay. We short new by a year. They're in the introduction fifteen years that's how you know how important that that 401k is all of those year especially with all these kids. How many kids are you home schooling right now? We're not we have home school before we're not host. Although the kids are all at home now we have said so we have we have five school-age kids and then we have identical twin boys. That are ten months old Benjamin Watson sixty years in the NFL. Are you just trying to have a kid for every year you play the NFL? Now we have a kid for every day of the week though last question before you digs has one for you. You've got a chance to play. It's a bad organizations great organizations right and no shot at the browns. It's just been that's kind of what it's been. And you got a chance to play for the saints whenever drew brees was Aaron obviously for the Patriots. When Tom Brady was there how can you explain to people what a winning culture looks like? I won a potential. Losing Culture. Looks like what are the biggest differences between the places? You've had great success in the places that don't always have success but the biggest thing is consistency and when I say that I don't necessarily think performance on me from the top being in Cleveland. I was ever three years great historic organization but they too much turnover to be successful. When I was there they had two different owners. We transitioned from Mr Learner to miss. Has We have turnover in ownership. That's difficult then. You have turnover in the coaching staff. Every two years there so it's not that they can't be good just said we have to stick with what's going on. You have to stick with your people long enough to get over that hump going. I was in Baltimore for two years. At an organization that has a lot of stability. They've had a great ownership NBA shot. Mr Bush lady they've had GM Manasi head. Coach has been the hardware has been there for extended period of time the same in New Orleans. Obviously the same here in New England and so the biggest difference is really Having that consistency from a leadership standpoint and then it's who's calling the plays and who's taking the snap under center I have. This can't have multiple people at quarterback and expect to be successful in a very quarterback drew. I believe I did says question. All here we go. I wrote this in. I wrote this in my notes section on the flight home in an NFL from an NFL. Game in two thousand fifteen. When I was talking to a couple of G's about how good teams keep people around kind of see their vision through were other teams. They kind of cut too early or they potentially are scared to get locked onto a bad thing. But I think the world that we're in right now potentially pushes teams to make decisions. I wrote this in two thousand fifteen. The fear of the perception of complacency has changed the NFL immensely owners. Gm's coaches fear the thought of fans thinking they have become complacent a couple of games. Lost a bad season nowadays means change to occur. We live in an instant gratification society. We want everything now. Our News entertainment and what I'm referring to in this particular case is our team success in our outlet in NFL at all time. This thought process is not a negative one. People should expect greatness all the time but sometimes it takes a little bit to grow some greatness and I think the world we live in right now with fans and teams being able to see exactly what their fans think right. Teams are able to see exactly what they're frantic. Philip rivers was signed here to the coach yesterday in twitter. The Indianapolis twitter is not happy about it and now the codes get to see that like the colts are actually getting where it wants might have been like a reporter writing for the paper and you could just mentally compartmentalize. That is all. He's just a hater. He's a negative now. Like you actually see what the fans are saying. And I think that's why some of these bad organizations are always tending to make new moves. Because they're kind of fear that their fans are gonNA think they're complacent was sucking when sometimes it just takes a little bit longer to get to. The greatness has a has a slogan says. Ignore THE NOISE. Ignore the noise and a lot of bad is noticed there are people that have a. Pin. That really don't matter. They don't know what's going on inside of the building. Their opinion is going to change tomorrow if you win. It's going to change the next day. If you lose. They have nothing else to do. Other than to micromanage everything that you're doing that they have no control over and so ignoring the noise. It doesn't mean we don't respect your opinion. Obviously the fans are important. There are vital to the success of the NFL. But at the same time if you're a management You have to be able to stick with the plane but also what happens is you have people that are managers head coaches general managers and there's a ownership is hearing all of this and they want to be proud the product that they're putting on the field got friends in high places and so it kind of trickles down and so that's when you see the turnover but doesn't happen overnight especially in football. You know this you've got you've got twenty two guys on starting off into defense you've got guys special teams. You Got Fifty Three Mayor Rasi. Forty six guys. You know when you play and it's not like basketball where you can buy five players and almost guarantee yourself a champion or boss totally different or one. Bring the you're right. You're right or one or two. I mean football's totally different. But you make a good point about this time of gratification that there's not much patients And also when you talk about the money that's involved I can't say if I'M I won't be kind of impatient as well so I might be in that boat to last question for Beat New England this year. Was there any indication throughout the year in the locker room or or in the organization that this could potentially happen with Tom? Leaving definitely wasn't potential because we all knew he was going to be a free agent anytime coming in the last year. The contract with your quarterback or not obviously a lot of times quarterbacks. We assume that they're going to get something worked out. We assume that you know both sides are gonNA come to some sort of agreement But this was uncharted territory in the NFL period. Have a guy that has been there when six bowls of been there for twenty years and this is one of the first time he's actually going to be a free agent so there was an understanding and even in speaking with him You Know Lockwood beside each other. He didn't tell me secrets about where he's going. But we did have conversations like old guys. Have you know in the locker room together talking about our families? On what's best for our families. What else future holds Great conversations that we had And so there was definitely a throughout the locker room. The understanding that this year was only that was promised and I think that we all know that you know whether it's because of an injury. Somebody's career is or whether it's because of free agency or whether they just decided to move on One thing footballs. You know that every year could be the end of whatever it is and I think that that urgency is also kind of what made the you know has made the Patriots great because we play with a sense of urgency understanding that this is the window. The window is today the window. Is this meeting the window is this game is the season you don't know what's happening outside of that so I wouldn't sit here and say that anybody in the locker room knew it was gonna be Tampa or anybody knew he was gonNA leave Free Agency but we all knew that we all have a right to decide whether we want to go in free agency or not and I and everybody respect that everybody I think everybody cherish this year knowing that it could be five or ten more years here in New England or it could be five or ten more years somewhere else? Did you ever feed your kids avocado ice cream after those conversations with Tom Brady and not a lot of avocado though we do Avocado? Actually you know I. It myself is great brain food. Those healthy fats are really amazing. For us I eat that every day. Also kids feels great. Baby Food Avocados. If you don't have like database so you can imagine how have mustered up babies love Avocado guacamole great. You need to get you and have a good deal and we have to Break Ladies and Gentlemen Sixteen Year. Nfl tight end in Super Bowl champ. Former first round pick of the New England patriots. Benjamin wants to thank you. Awesome holding up up to get into the camera left handed to. I mean that's right. What are you supposed to do in school? Because you're drummer. Well you know I could've played what's his face. Tommy Lee but they chose machine gun Kelly instead. You had that one I did. We should hear me fucking bang on a symbol to. I mean it's I mean I'm ready for it. Welcomed McAfee and hawks sports talk days six of no live sports day. Three of the show that is captivating a nation. I'm Pat McAfee sitting to my left. Your right as I'm a Jayhawk. Twenty pat per day three of the show as much energy as I thought I can't. I would never try to match your energy. Your one of a kind so I I will have to be me. I can't pretend to be you. Was that complement. That's Alpha Cat. The comments on the Youtube think that you are a mean person. I want to let you know the commenters on Youtube are scared of. Aj Hawk like a mean person as in just like legit mean or just mean to you because we're joking around because we're good. Buddies hates Pat McAfee. Apparently the headline this morning read now granted. Some other things have been you know Tom. The headline read. Aj Hawk bashes in hates Pat McAfee as long as well as other humans. That was the headline this morning. Wow well hey everyone can have their own opinion. I just I would ask somebody if I truly hated Pat McAfee. Why would I be doing this? Spite Spicer despite show you know what you might be right. I'll let you know here in a couple of weeks. Speaking spite Did you hear the Andre Hopkins Billy? O'brien beef that got scorned up this morning. Because the Andrea Hopkins got traded for second round. Pick which was a wild move. Nobody understood it. Because he's so good then it came out that he was potentially on the trading block a year ago and they'll be wants to why he assumed there had to be a beef. Michael Irvin gets on get up. He's got city talked. Deandre Hopkins Gendre Hopkinson compared him at one time to Aaron Hernandez in a in a particular setting and then some other things baby mamas. All this stuff which might happen by the way. But then the Andre Hopkins came out and said this all getting blown way out of control. I have nothing but respect for bill. O'brien they're still obviously some beef there though bill. O'brien one gone. Why would you want your star guy? Gone if it's not just strictly a salary cap move. That's the question everybody's asking isn't it? I mean he's your star receiver one of the best guys in the League at the position. And you try them a second round pick. In who else do they have in? Houston right now. A Lamar Miller Kenny stills. Kenny stills made our trade will fuller mean they have players of course they have some really good players away. There's some other there's something else about it. He just said he didn't say that allow. He said he goes your name one player. That's worth a single fund are actually say that yeah they have players fueled rosters now. You're you're you're right though. Does Shawn Watson is a young up and coming great quarterback and you would think that you would wanNA keep his number one target a guy who's really good on the team so there had to be something but I think obviously this morning cup blown out of control a little bit. Yeah I'd have to sit there. What's the how much money do they save? And moving on from Andre Hopkins bringing in David Johnson and then signing Randall Cobb. They're actually paying like twelve million more for those two players than just to keep the Andrea Hopkins. Yeah but they're thinking we got two players for the price of one but going back to your point when you're talking about. Do they have any players? Yeah they'll be able to feel the roster with these players. But it's not fucking Andre Hopkins we especially with Bill. O'brien has four control he's the GM slash head coach. So he's doing all he catches a lot of heat. Has He come out and said anything about this. The Audrey Hopkins Conversation that supposedly head that Michael Urban is the one that started all of this. Well Michael Irvin. Yeah Talk to John. Jay Hopkins immediately after the trade. Johns took the high road and then he said it was eaten and for twenty four hours and he had to call the Hopkins back at twenty four hours later in John Hopkins started to talk to them a little bit more and said that there had been some contentious potentially contentious conversations. Now John Hopkins had no idea. Michael Irvin was going on. Get up with Greenberg on. Espn and Elliott Story. I don't think but it did become something that caught fire because we're in a world where there's no live sports right now. I mean I understand why would catch some fired. There's a lot of different ways to it. I guess. Then the weird thing is when Michael. Irvin makes the the allegation that Bill. O'brien told him like you have a you have baby multiple kids with multiple ladies right. Yeah Baby Mamas around is what the way around around the facility or just in the city. What did he mean well? It's the honest. I think what he really wanted was John. Jay Hopkins is not be around as kids so you keep them away from. Let's focus more on football. You you know you know what I mean. Maybe stay away from his baby mamas. No okay I mean that's that has nothing to do with what's going on on the field for the guy so I I would imagine bill. O'brien will want to clear his name a little bit at least come out and try to clarify some of these comments that were made about him. And I think that's why by the way John Hopkins look out for Bill. O'brien here deandre. Hopkins was just traded for a second round and you can think he could have some beef but he came out and said like as blown out of control. Because that's saying those things might have been said but the conversations happened over time like it wasn't a friendly relations. You know what I mean like. Maybe that's how it was meant to be said but anyways still a little bit of an inside look on how that potentially happened to get an inside. Look on what Tom Brady did. I don't think anybody has a clue. I talked to Benjamin Watson this morning on his show on our show and he said that he knew Tom Brady was potentially going to leave but he had no idea was going to be Tampa. Tampa only became like a much clearer picture like five days ago when it was released that the bucks are planning on making a pitch to Tom Brady and giving him roster control. That's how their name got mentioned in the thing and now you're talking about the buccaneers going from forty two one favourite to get to the Super Bowl to a twenty two to one in Vegas immediately overnight with the signing a Tom Brady and ultimately everybody assumes Antonio Brown that team's going to be good I think by the way I think they are going to be very good at football next year. Well everyone assumes that Antonio Brown is Tom Brady is going to have to get them to Tampa Bay first off do we know. Is he eligible to return the NFL yet? Do we know now. He's going to have to go through an investigation. Probably the price suspend them for a couple of games all the stuff that happened but still Antonio Brown still potentially come into that team after a couple of weeks. That'll be insane to go alongside Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Yeah I mean they have tons of town all over the place they had two tight ends that play very well to and we know Tom Brady. When Aaron Hernandez and Gronkowski were rolling at the same time they were very very difficult to stop so it set up for them. The question is who's GonNa be quarterback for the New England Patriots. Now are they going to trade for Jacoby percent because the coach just paid Philip Rivers? Twenty five million are they gonna. Bring Cam Newton in the check for his health records. They WANNA know is Andy Dalton getting traded or will it be this guy who gave a motivational speech this morning to everybody who has his phone number this guy by the way still in great shape still good leader has been for the at the Patriots before he understands the Patriot way and a guy whenever he gets around a group of humans rallies them to want to run through a wall? What's up guys Hope you're saying healthy out there Just finishing up cattleman love it. It's this appraisal of my favorite things to walk outside and go to a gym and go get put the work in You know I know. It's a time of uncertainty and a lot of questions out there But just keep the faith keep biting be smart be safe Think ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. And let's let's truly show the love that we want to experience every day. God bless you guys. Hope you're having a good day. Fuck it right to Mt to me. T- to Tim tebow potential quarterback for the New England Patriots. He's ready to rally those troops and say dynasty for the last twenty. How your next twenty? I got a gym outside. I can walk to. I love it so now I know what I have to do to close the show out right. That's the that's the motto of the peak of what you need to do for inspiration. So man I better. I better study up. I might have to send a text call to timmy to try to get some coaching. Are you friends with him? Till I don't I wouldn't say friends of now. I don't have his number but I see him around. Yeah played golf with them out in. Tahoe years ago been around with different things. Super Nice Guy. He's a great guy. He is trying to throw his hat back in the ring and he wants to play. I am though I want him to go back in the NFL. So back. Because I I loved him. I've gotten chance Malka PDAs. He's been nothing but nice to me and he shouldn't be in is. I'm a big fan of his so I want him to potentially be a quarterback for the Patriots. We get digs in here with an update. What is happening in the world? I was set in here with breaking news from billy tubes. This show the PAT McAfee show. Youtube is trending number five on Youtube. Because of a video of yesterday about you guys reacting to Tom Brady signing with the voters say Jay. We're already looking. H I that was. I think there was a video of pat reacting to Tom Brady. That'd be my guess. Now you're also in there. We just use my name because we found that it does well in the in the searches of the Youtube. So and there's only so many spaces we should say pat McAfee and AJ Hawk but at the current time. Billy tubes is. You're saying that your name isn't doing it. I don't know why I don't know. Why billy tubes do in that. He's twenty four year old Gen Z. He'd be out on a beach with all his friends right. Avoca but it just. I don't know why he's doing whether you take up with him but good for us. This is a big day three already number five. Turn ON YOUTUBE ALL TRUST MR hot. It's great now. I didn't say it as a bad thing. I think it's great. What do you mean hanging right at the coattails of the Great Pat McAfee and the crew? That you have there. I Know Billy just mad pat into studio for a week. I did five shows there. I know billy will probably better than you know in the wall. Well Billy's I noticed. Billy's dad is doing right now his his next venture. I know everything about it Paul. Okay so you're saying you think I don't know that stuff. Is that what you just said that? I don't know that about billy tubes. I Dunno I the impression I got. Was that you if you have a show at ten. Pm You row in it. Nine fifty eight and a half and you sit down and they just review with all your Info and you just let it roll question from the back room. Yeah what's his real name? What is his name? Was Billy tubes. His name William Tubes this guy. The only thing we know about you is that you peed on her bathroom floor whenever you already know about you. That's all. Billy knows about you too by the way. Good jaw line. Played football. Looks cool hair cool hair? Had forty-seven surgeries in pees on the floor. Whenever he has to go the bathroom during commercial breaks gets into the urine. That's my new bioch- good people always asked me for bio from going to give a speech or something so maybe that'll be it getting tight all it is man. I think I'm getting fat again. Aj It's happening. I feel it is once you take your shirt off on a C. Don't be Weird Asia. Aj Geez we think there's a fan camera. Whatever book is what do you want me to say? You go see somebody. I don't know it's going to be tough to go. See Somebody to get that fixed. Why don't you just work out? Sounds so easy cheese now. Everyone's Aj not. Everybody can just wake up every morning and WanNa go lift our you know what I mean. Aj I know you wake up every morning. Seven kids get a workout in homeschool. Mcafee and hawks sports talk homeschool workout. Go to bed. Aj Hawks Life. I that's not. I can't do it I don't know why just don't have it in me. You have a nice little weight room there. Your House warehouse that you set up so you could get good pump in even during your you'll five and a half minute commercials during your radio show. You could get a few sets in I. I'll wake them up. If I have to wake up the boys on his show you know what I mean. That's one of the great. I put out a CO CORONA VIRUS PUMP video. Actually for you to do at home if you're trying to stay fit during this Quarantine I will say this the NFL free agency was really really good for the people here. The first couple of days of this whole thing I think people need and now even people that don't like the NFL. I think we're even intrigued by this year's NFL free agency and has even started. It starts in two hours and forty five minutes. I think there's been a very interesting agency. Came time for the entire country. I think it came at a great time. I think now there are people calling for them to halt free agency and postpone it and not have it right now during the time. This is exactly what we need. Don't think like having actual breaking news that's separate from the krona virus numbers being thrown at you. I think it helps. Everyone continue about their day in. I know that like you're not supposed to being gatherings of more than ten people and stuff like that so some places. It's impossible but these shows sport shows at decided to cancel for a week. Like what. What are you what are you doing? This is when this is when people need you to do stuff. That was very interesting to me like I have a lot of respect for the people over the ESPN that are working right now because everybody is at home and now some places they can't go because there's so many people in the office and they couldn't possibly do it but I think right now. I think people need outlets as much possible in this. Nfl Free Agency. That really kicks off here in two hours and forty four minutes is good good fodder for a lot of the people that are kind of locked in her house. Like right now we have no idea. Where d'you David Clowney is going to go? That's a massive name. What's HE GONNA do? Is he going to the giants? Is he going to come to the colts? Where's he going to go? Well I read something that. He was kind of frustrated at the lack of of giant offers. That were coming his way so he seems to be the next big guy. Hit like if there's if you had to make a list of top rages isn't cloudy. Probably the next big number guy. We see off the Board Hayes. I still remember that play. He made in college wage. South Carolina Michigan Ballgame Outback Bowl. Yeah he was on the right side obviously just blows through. The Guy Kills a human hand in an score touching troy. Palmolive would have done. If I tried to run fake in Pittsburgh he would have killed me. Like that. Picked up the ball and score a touchdown going the other way but he did that in real game in Houston for some reason. I don't know I think Jadeveon clowney and you know this probably about better than me probably better than most people anybody really today villain clowney isn't like a stat seeking defensive end. Am I right in saying that? Like he's like a good against the run. He'll make some big plays for you but he's not like that stat guy which he could be but he isn't. I think somebody told me that in a way to complement today. Bianconi but I'm not harmed percent if that's accurate or if that's true I think that's one hundred percent complicated. I mean edge rushers PAT. You know like they get paid to sack the quarterback that one hundred percent. They need to get double digit sacks year after year leading to sign a big second deal than this big third deal. That's what they want but a guy you say he can do it all and he may not be a staggered. I think that's a great thing for the team. As a whole and especially defense. Yeah he can definitely disrupt the quarterback and get after him. He didn't have huge numbers lash. Everybody always has a huge impact because he's not scared to stand up and play against the run a lot of guys that are Russia. They don't even want to be in the game if there's a run threat like they want to be in there when they know it's passing the the old cliche years back and get after the quarterback today be and seems to be able to do it all and that's why. I think he's a huge asset. Whoever SIGNS THEM? I told our team that I don't want to be on the field. If it's a rush or pass you don't yeah. I don't want to be on the field. Listen Don't put me on their. If it's a rusher Paschke on sideline that's why didn't play a lot of you. Know three or four down on defense side of the ball. What position would you have played? If you played a different position I always thought safety potentially cause I was faster than people would have expected. But I wasn't fast enough to be like an actual you know corner or anything like that. I think I wouldn't have been as instinctive as others but I think safety. I could've managed. I would have been good in a box. I think I think you WanNa see me been. I would have been good in the box. A box safety. Probably you've had some giant hits turn your NFL career. So I believe you're not scared to stick your head in there. The form is normally terrible. I was much much better form earlier in my career and in college and then as it got later in my career I just decided to throw my big fat acid. Does it matter I mean what is your your special teams coach? Say Hey if it gets to you. Just get them down. We don't care what it looks like it. Training Camp First Day. They used to have me always go through hitting drew this hilarious whole first day. Always go up wait. Would you have to like tackle a running back? It was like a form tackle drill. You know where you like the person jumps in you like go up on them and then there's a pad into like a tax. You tackle like a rolling thing into like a crash pad seven cents. Yeah Yeah I used to do that. I wrote those those things they today eventually. Just stop doing that. Was You because it became too much of a distraction to watch you do that? I mean everything I do was a spectacle so I would assume that other players were you know finding it tough to focus while I was over there so watering that donut But no they had me do. It was normally in the back corner and nobody cared. But I was showing out because it was on camera so I wanted like for ten years whenever the going through the footage at some point I want people to be like this fucking guy. It'll go on his tackle Joe. That's the only thing I wanted to do but I'm not getting I missed a lot of tackles. Aj I missed a lot of devils. Everyone does. How do you not miss? What cow especially your punt returner and kickoff returner is some of the shittiest guys on the planet right there. I feel like some of you guys though never missed like when some guys missed tackles. It's a big story like I think it's it's a big story when some people missed tackles that is that the NFL in general like it's the people that are athletic smart enough and don't Miss Tackles. Is that what good defensive? Football is in in the NFL. A huge thing going back to the show yesterday you you mentioned some of the players that were in Detroit that left that had Matt Patricia complaining. About how much. How many like their fundamentals for so damn long practice get. They'd get mad. Well that's what it is. I mean tackling drills. That's why the Patriots seem to always be good they. They're always doing fundamentalism. Working on tackling now with all these condense schedules as they call them with with coaches being with their players and their team coaches feel like maybe that's one thing they they don't get to do as much as work on the fundamentals because they always complain that they don't have enough time with their players. They have more than enough time with their players to to feel a good football team. But yeah it's I hate when teams count. Missed tackles like when they they'll put a big one of the first things they talk about what we missed tackles. That's not good enough that limit that like what the more you talk about him. I feel like the more that happens. Like just work on tackling in space in rally into the ball and your pursuit angles. And you don't have to just focus on the number so much. I think. A lot of the great coaches do that they don't focus on the number of their work on tackling all the time because if you don't believe in mystical won't happen. I used to do it for headaches. I didn't believe headaches for like thirty one years or something like that and then I got a headache. I'll tell you what sort of bits took me down. That's life man. You Got Thirty and you realize Oh wait hangovers are real thing and hemorrhoids too. I mean I'm not on board with that. I don't know anything about it. So you've never had a King Tasha in you. You don't have a clue what hemorrhoids no sense. I know I know what hemorrhoids are. Yes I never even crossed my mind that I had them It's crossed my mind a lot. Just saying I know you yeah. I think you've talked to me about your treatment plan. I think some people deserve to hear because I think is something that doesn't get talked about enough. I would like to let people know that. Like for instance this Carolina Reaper Pepper. That I'm eating at three o'clock live on this youtube in g fuel is giving away twenty five dollars a second for however long. I can last after putting the pepper my mouth to reaching for a drink. They're giving away to the comments section cash APP and a comment section. I I from what I've been told is. Yeah it's going to suck going in but coming outs could be a real problem and I'm worried about that for tomorrow. Moving forward during this entire Corona Cortina. Have you ever eaten a pepper? That's even like half as strong as this one about the. I think I had a pretty hard. I think I had a pretty harsh one one time and it. It took me. It took me down. I mean I was sweating crying the whole thing so I think this is going to be a show here three o'clock I'm regretting it. I'm before we were walking in. A shot was walking back and forth a little bit pacing thinking about well. Today's Damn fucking puke great. It's a good thing to stare down. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA dial out there. Probably J just shows how far you will go for for the fans of McAfee. Yeah I WANNA be on want to turn to a prop comic here. I don't want be but I do feel like. We are in dire circumstances where people need to be entertained by somebody and if I could be the monkey that dances out there. I'll do it. I'll I'll give my hard earned five ten minutes of death to hopefully help people pass through this time of boredom and and also Bali harsh times for some businesses right now. Aj Harsh Times for some businesses. I feel I don't know how anybody can can make it work right now. With no matter what business you may own smaller big but it. It got me thinking early so I turned on get up for a second this morning and all I caught was Mike Greenberg saying well we we. There was some inflammatory remarks made by Michael Irvin. And we're we're doing our due diligence. You know when when things like this or are levied against somebody like he was all like dire talking about. I'm like man. I gotTa look what Michael Irvin said. Because I didn't see it live and so then I did. I'm like what is. Espn worried that they're going to get sued or something for something. Michael Irvin said. I don't know I don't think it would right. I mean no. It's Michael Irvin He. It was Mike Greenberg. Mike Greenberg maybe able to be sued directly from Bill. O'brien or whatever but I just don't see what it seemed like. They were GonNa right after it happened. They were worried about the toll. It was GONNA take. I bet you they were getting messages from people like Hey You know we're being talked about everywhere right now. Like wildfire Dombrowski artists Tampa. Okay move on. What's next boom the next all right. Let's go for that's the world we're in right now. Is Like what what happens? When we moved forward we can move forward. Philip rivers has not gotten like a pleasant response from some quotes fans. I'm not saying L. quotes fans but some coats fans are not happy about Philip rivers. Come and do the too old. The Guy was rude. Dust in two thousand seven in two thousand eight. He's a statue back. Air looked like he was thrown a med ball. At the end of the season. This what people were saying about Philip rivers and I think the other side is saying if he wins. Some Games here in does well. This seems a good team. If Philip rivers got anything left in the old tank this is a potential run for them. I think it's a pretty good signing and this is telling for Jacoby percent is probably GonNa get traded at this point. Is he going to be traded or do they fill is a guy that will play through anything? We've seen that what he played through the ACL. Tear back in the day in the playoffs. I remember I guess. He loves football. Jacob Hester you remember Jacob Hester. Oh yeah he he sent me. Dm last night. No big deal name dropped by the way we're like that I'm happy. We are on the like Jacob Dude Fan of his. He sends me messages. You guys are going to love Philip rivers in Indianapolis or whatever he said. Everybody plays with him. He's his favorite team. He just loves football. He said one year they are playing in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil Stadium in filling him. Because Phil wanted to fill wanted to go over the night before the day before and watch high school football high school state football at the Lucas Oil stadium. Just because he wanted to see what Indiana High School football is like Phil Rivers. I guess just loves football like lives in dies football so make sense that the guy will play through anything because it is like actual having a massive family in playing football. What Philip rivers is just bred to do and if that's the guy that hasn't won a super bowl yet feels like he needs to. I feel like that's a pretty good signing for the colts. Now what are they do moving forward? Nobody knows nobody has a fucking clue. Nobody knows but the good thing about having frank right there. They're going build the offense around Phil rivers and what he does. Well as all the great coaches do like they're not gonNA ask filled to to sit back there and throw seventy yard bombs time after time. But that's not going to have to feel does you're GONNA you're GonNa do what he does. Best and you're gonNA try to build things around and they have like we talked about yesterday. Good Interior offensive line. They have a good offense of art as in general. That's going to hopefully keep him up writing and they got some weapons go to and their defense can play great so I don't know I guess they should be excited. Don't be I think it's gotta make them feel good. The fact of how much fill rivers does love football? Yes you want a guy like you wanNA fight for a guy like that because you know he's fighting for you and anytime you heard any of rivers teammates ever speak about him. They speak so highly of this dude like they love. They all do. I almost just texted Chris. Ballard mid-sentence there and then I realized that that's not something I should do like I literally. I want to pick up my on there. You probably saw me doing that. I was thinking about texting Chris Ballard in asking the question that Aj was just talking about just seeing if we can get the response. I was like that's not the right move probably in this entire world. That's probably not the right play. Is it? I think it's worth a shot. I mean why not GOPI scared to ask I mean this show is trending the other day or today ask Bauer may liked little disruption in his normal routine. What are you doing with Jacoby? Mlive on era. Gosh thank your backup percent me other messages. He's probably I mean it's free agent day might be a little busy to send it. Send it. I'M GONNA. I'm GONNA preface it. I A lot of people asking very go. Yeah what are you doing what you Kobe? I'm live on air right now. Btw expect me to say this publicly if you answer say this publicly if you answer people need to know accent shares man. Thanks Cheer Smith. That's a massive question. Ask them because that's literally all the people talking about him. Getting traded back to New England. Jacoby I mean. That's not out of the Roma possibility. He's been there make Daniels. I mean he knows the Patriot way. He showed great signs of being a very good quarterback last year until he got hurt because Cam Hayward dumped it off its lion on his knee. So that's something that I think that New England Patriots would absolutely love. And what if that digits work out to you know be perfect? It's just worked out. That'd be wild. I don't know what they're doing. Well there's so many like veteran quarterbacks that have started games in one auto games the NFL. That are still out there right now. Andy Dalton needs to go somewhere. We'll see what happens. Maybe I oughta match. Have you ever talked to Andy Dalton or anybody? Yeah Andy Why don't do? He's according to Texas. I'm guessing as either in Texas or he's in Ohio still. I don't know what does he. What the right to the Hawks Fox? They'll do that one right there to sweep well wolf pack for life. Do you know what I'm saying? Are you is happening? Yeah but it's happening at the performance center. Nobody knows it's going to happen. They haven't told me anything by the way. Do you think it will actually happen though. I think they're going to extend the storylines because wrestlemanias. Kinda supposed to be a combination of your story. Lines have been re start right of a new season of wwe. And I think they'll just extend it to summer slim. I don't know I'm not the one making any decisions or have any idea. That's just what I think. They'll probably do that. Vince McMahon staredown. With the State of Florida I was very intrigued to watch out goes down and I think they're making the right move obviously with every passing day. We're all doctors out there. Like yeah you're going to lose like people are going to die from this. That Vincent van was like Damn It. We'll do it Cone digs in here with update where we got shefty bomb shefty like a bomb. Bumba again with a quarterback trade jacoby percent. Jacksonville is trading quarterback. Nick foles to Chicago bears for a fourth round. Pick bears coaches such as Matt? Nagy have worked with falls and pass a know him. Well Nick foles now. The new starting quarterback in Chicago which means Ryan Pace and matinee had a discussion in Ryan. Pace said listen we missed Mitchell. Mitchell was good for a little bit. This past year was bad. In whether it was Mitchell's fault or Nagy's Ryan Pace and I'm sticking with Nagy. I'll bring you in another quarterback that you like that being bigger Ichard Nick foles who just signed an eighty million dollar contract a year ago to be on the Jacksonville Jaguars. I would assume that people have Chicago. The monsters of the midway are very pumped at their team potentially doesn't disappoint them. Next Zito is happy. Cubans eats excited Mitchell. Trubisky was his guy up until about forty five seconds ago. Now all in with Nick foles in. That's the state of the Chicago. Bears Right now. I think in all of their fans. Well I'm curious to see how they're going to play this moving forward because they have protected Mitchell trubisky through the media for a long time now reiterate multiple times like Mitchell guy. We don't need competition. They didn't say we don't need competition but he teammates saying we need competition as we have learned from Korea. Payroll Patterson coming out sending tweets to people like what's up. What's good fan like Chicago? That's what I'm saying though. What do you do are they? Are they going to plug them in right away as the starter or are they saying we are bringing him in? It's an open competition. That contract is massive. That contract is a massive one. You're bringing him into start. Like for instance case Keenum to Cleveland. Backup quarterback Marcus Mariota. Las Vegas Raiders backup quarterback contracts. Nick foles contract is the starting quarterback contract. That's what that is and I think I could be wrong when Nick foles thought about retirement one out in the woods potentially saw some vitamins and talk to. His brother-in-law decided to come back to football. I think that was a real kun-bae moment for him. That really opened up 'cause when he came and played for the Eagles when they needed him he was incredible on that Super Bowl. Incredible then him calling the Philly Philly then. Getting broken off in Jacksonville now. Granted Jacksonville isn't always the greatest place to be or whatever if for football for the last ten twenty years or so. But he threw a touchdown on the play he got injured for the for to go onto. Irr In his first season when the team now mentioned mania ran wild. You know the mustache into Georgia in the town of Jacksonville. And he wants them games and he was exciting but it feels like old nick. Foles might have the most interesting and journey in the history of quarterbacks. He's a super bowl. Mvp who was just cut me traded away a year after signing a franchise like deal. And now he's going to a place that is in dying. Need of good quarterback play has been for a long time with a defense. That just got ramped up. Even more with Quinn being added to the mix. What if the bears? All of a sudden are back in discussion for being worth a single fought next year. They should be. They should be taken seriously. I think I think they're a team that had issues. The number one issue was the inconsistent quarterback play and Mitchell. Trubisky or Mitch. I don't know what he's going by the moment but with Nick foles coming in is basically what Ryan pace and then admitting that they missed really Mitchell trubisky. That's what you're finally admitting whether that doesn't mean Mitchell can't go somewhere else in revive career taking Tannehill I think Mitchell trubisky is a guy who could potentially tannahill in a new place. New Place new system. Maybe you know something different. I think he could potentially be because I think he's showed a year ago. He could be worth Gigabit quarterback. Something happened there. He's a completely different player this year completely. He's super athletic. Did you just gotta find the right fit for him? I don't know what that may be but with Nick foles Chicago. People should be absolutely excited. It's not like the Philly Philly's thing happened. They got a statue outside of him outside the stadium in Philly with him in the coach. It's not like all of a sudden. He wins the Super Bowl and then he has poor play and he's not good anymore and he moves. He got hurt and in Gardner. Men's shoe comes in and takes the whole NFL by storm. So it's not like his play really decline. Nick foles got hurt. We know what he can do. We know what he's capable of doing so Chicago should be very excited about this especially with the defense that they have yeah. I think they're a contender. I guess the coach out the Jacksonville about Nick foles trade potentially and then Jacksonville within division. So then they want Philip rivers. That's the report. I have no idea if it's true or not. These are all coming from people who say they know things in a lot of them. Probably don't a lot of rumors. Floating around this time of year was all things sports and everything in the world but yeah. I guess it wouldn't have been very very excited. If Indianapolis brought Nick Foles in I guess with Phil Rivers. You're looking at like a stop. Okay we got. We got a great team around him. Where we're all in we thinks fills the missing piece. We think him over the next year or two could get us a super bowl. Get us to the Super Bowl. Wouldn't fall as you're thinking more long-term if you're able to bring him in good for big Richard Nick in a new home. We have any questions from the Youtube. Yes Sir all right you know we like to. We like to ask the most positive upbeat beautiful place in the world. A Youtube comments section to get involved in our show. If you're new to the show welcome aboard. I am McAfee that his hawk This is sports talk We have a good time here. we're coming to you. Live from Indianapolis Indiana and he's in Columbus Ohio where he is a living legend because of what he did at the Ohio State Buckeyes. It actually says that on his license plate. That's a real thing and actually happened. It's not man is a real thing we saw through. Okay cool for this further story you could. Yeah it makes you feel better. It says Ohio Legend doesn't say Ohio state legends community or something. I guess you'd cruise next season absolutely not. I think it says that on the license plate sound like a sticker like oh been our myrtle beach or something like that. It's like you know it's like on the licensed cam by can't yeah. Yeah earn it. Oh yeah yeah okay. Yeah that's exactly. What my license plate is. Why do we got anyways? Very thankful that you're watching the show We like to talk to the people comment section. And here's our friends zito reading from there. You do have that on your license plate though Youtube questions nor don't tax seat it. What if the browns signed cloudy Miles Helmet Swag and Garett which should debut on Michigan Killer? Cloudy on their side. Would that be crazy? That Billy Shakespeare writing film words there. There was a lot shutout gauge Jones Shadow Gauge Jones. Today cloudy to the browns. Potentially I like it. You know how I like the complementary pass rushers on either side I think he and Myles Garrett not only are super physical guys. That are very physical intimidating. You put them off the bus. I as you say. Always put them off the bus. I all those two guys I go. Jud Avian and Myles Garrett directly behind him that gets off the bus. I venit series. Be the first off the bus every time because he sat up front and then I said behind him like I would walk off behind him. Arrows be these cameras over so happy things and it was just utter disappointment. Andrew Locks coming out like maybe twenty seven deep in. Its second bus. Nobody even knows. We've we messed up completely for two years and looking back on it and I feel terrible about that well you put myles Garrett in jail debut on clowney leading your team into a into a stadium. Jesus those that would be. That would be a pair of monsters up there for Cleveland Andrew Berry by the way big brand new. Gm He has been around. In known knows the effect of Dwight Screen Robert Mathis those dude used to wreak havoc on people who gets paid on a defense the outside rushers and if you have a shutdown corner that's who you pay the big money too because you shutdown corner you can the old cliche and kind of take that side of the field away you can take their best receiver out and then you can. You can play different. Multiple coverages away from that SHUTDOWN CORNER. And who else can affect game the guy rushing the passer because he can get sacks decorative yardage plays sack strip turnovers all that stuff that can change the face of the game so you pay those dudes but describe what happened money to make driving. Carney want to come to Cleveland today. Cloudy you said earlier that their reports where he wasn't getting as many big offers as he thought so I'll be excited to see what the market is for him but he goes to Cleveland. That'd be even more dangerous. They're building up a little team over there. I I'll be excited to see what they can pull off. Was there a day back in the day where Mike Linebackers? Are the ones that got paid? The most 'cause they're always called the quarterback of the defense and things like that was ever. That did that ever happen. No I don't think that was ever really a thing. I mean guys can still get paid a lot of money to to play inside back but it's a position where a lot of teams feel like you don't have to go and pay top dollar to have one or two inside backers. He definitely want to have to insi- backers making giant contract. You don't want to allocate your money that way but you can you can handle have been one guy making big money. I think in the middle. I always just assumed that the MIC was getting the most like for a long time and then obviously corners. Din's came into it. Because I think back in the day whenever Steve Sable and NFL films are really going people covering there was no internet. You also like the Mike Given the huddle like it always felt like it was the middle linebackers. Like defense right lose. It was different than to. I'm sure you've seen like the clips of old school guys like Dick Bucks and single Terry talking about you come across the middle. That's my you don't come across the middle. I'll kill you and so you could get away with a lot more and could impact the game more. I think to back before the rules. Kind of have changed to protect guys. Did you Did you lead with your head a lot or no I mean how are you not going to lead with your head? What else would lead with a great question? I would like to let you know that. Whenever they said there will be no more leading with the head for tacklers. I didn't fully understand that. Because you know we. We are like Like sharks like most animals. Your head is normally where you're headed to. You know what I mean. If you're you're going in an angle the head up thing was that an easy adjustment for you to make no because you're always taught to tackle with your head up but a lot of times that hurts like I think he could tackle with your head up and sometimes you're in a situation where you can't get your head up like your eyes on the ball. They're always trying to tell you. Put Your eyes on the football or whatever I. It's hard to do that you can. You definitely can adjusted. They teach tackling a lot different now from a young age. Starting second grade this rap. Twirl gator tackle type thing where you kind of. Keep your head out of it. So they're trying to do it. But there's going to be many instances throughout a game where your head you can't help but make head calm to contact with somebody and you had no concussions. Nope nothing documented. Nothing doesn't believe in them. Some people were lucky. I one hundred percent believe in trust me I do but yeah I've been lucky. I don't know what I what I can tell you. Man I haven't had the crazy headaches after game where you puke or spend the night in hospital. I just haven't had that been lucky. All right I wanted you to. I want to do something in the show. Called the best flex on earth is that okay. If we do that I mean we should vote. I guess because it's your show as well. Yeah I vote in favor of this okay here. It is. Trishaw auto bought an island to lock his family up on for. This quarantine is the best flex I've ever seen in my entire life. This is the best flex to a ever happened. In the middle of the potential no a worldwide pandemic where people are being torn teamed away from others. He bought an island to move his family to see you later. Nobody's fucking allowed. I Love Them. I mean it's pretty amazing. It's awesome that he did that. I just don't like okay. So are there no other people on the island other than his family working now and helping them run the generators helping them get faith? Food and supplies like how is that working is a room service on the island. What is is? They're running water house this all. That is a great question. And how did he turn it around so quickly if he just bought the island? That's what I WANNA know. There's usually at least thirty days before you can close on this thing. So maybe expedited the process because of who he is. In the times we're living he had to pay cash right for that thing to show up at the island and Said who owns us you get. Outta here. Here's a cash. It sounds kind of like. That's what happened here. If he's like is he. Do we know the on the island right now see. Christopher Columbus Christiane Christiane Cristiano Renaldo Columbus Christiana Columbus Rinaldo one onto an island bought. It moved his family there until everybody gets fucked up. Ain't nobody getting the Goddamn device around here. I mean that's a heck of a move you. Do you think this is a snowball effect where we will see other giant celebrities with huge bank accounts starting to buy up islands around the world? I don't know Jerry. You're going to buy an island around the world or whether you literally just described yourself. Nope I did. Not but no. I'm I'm hunkered here in Ohio Man. I'm not going anywhere. Speaking of hunkered another segment. I want to do today was at home. Sports personalities backdrops on television. I love this. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah and backdrops slash audio because something like the ESPN. They're calling people in their house. They're on their sometimes. I'm like man. You GotTa get a Treaty. It does sound like a USB. Mike Mike from Walmart plug into your computer to make it sound a little bit better. I think some of that's happening spur of the moment. But you're a hundred percent right but the backdrops are always very telling to me. Who took the time? Who really wanted to showcase how smart. They were who accomplishing things. And who is a last minute motherfucker? That just put the camera and said let's do. We got an entire ROLODEX here. I have another one quick question to you can think about this when you're watching it. What's between the females and males that we hit that whatever? I don't know who you have coming up to show. Were who took the time to put a full face of makeup onto these interviews as well. Because you know if they're going in studio they have make people that are that are doing them up. There's been some different looking analysts over the last couple of days I will say that and by the way I look much different the Bob Ross makeup people at ESPN pure seventeen is next level. Put a filter on me just the way around the day. I mean it's incredible but whenever you're at home you don't have some of those this standard. I think for backdrops for sports commentators. This is the first guy. Adam Schefter I think. Schefter is the standard right I mean. He's got a lot of books to showcase that he's smart. He's got the wolverines thing there now. He has the buccaneers and the Patriots behind him which is a wild move because he is a Michigan man. Loves Tom Brady? It just feels like that is the standard when it comes to the backdrop for these sports commentators. Do you agree. Aj Yeah there. That is kind of the standard shift. He also over his left shoulder has his wedding picture with his wife. And you've got to have footballs and books. And this is a pure. This is exactly what I would guess. Backed up with like it was a smart move and by the way he's been doing a lot longer than most people. The next person on the list obviously is just happening this week. Is Dan Orlovsky? Dan Showcases that he lives. Well okay. That's good looking office. And also he has some game balls. He has his kids over his right shoulder. There much like chef wanted showcase that although he loves his business and he is successful. He's a family. I Guy I like the way he set this up. It's good lighting and by the way he sounded good as well. The buccaneers helmet on top. Did strike us. Because did he have connections in no? The Tom Brady was going to Tampa before any of us. Is that why he put the helmet up? There were no he I think he was. One of the first guys to say Tampa Bay is going to be an option but I think Dan played for the bucks at some point. Didn't even have no idea. No no clue going to look that up. I don't know boss Becker looking up. But anyways was that his game helmet he's not gonNA be remembered as Tampa Bay. Buccaneers quarterback now hates breakthrough. I'm sure that was the his. I worry Tom Brady side or Tom hasn't officially signed yet has now and they said they're not planning anything to. I don't know if they are going to do to four o'clock or some other time Orlovsky by the way. Have you ever met him? Yeah Incredible Yeah Super Smart Dude. I love him on. Tv Too. He is completely bought into what Dan is. You know what I mean like. He's very comfortable being the the almost. I'M SMARTER THAN YOU. Handsome white ex quarterback on television and I love it. He's all over the place that's why they use him on so many different shows and calling games and do whatever. I remember when Dan was posting those videos online with ESPN are are talking. To McMahon. Hasn't network come after you like to. He was one of the early guys that was breaking down. Tony exactly really what was happening. Which was good coming from a former quarterback. I agree I agree. He didn't have. We had him on the show a couple of times during that time period and we gave them some critiques. We told them menial more energy little bit more energy some of those early videos. I felt like I was learning something but I was also snoozing chuck's Jifa while watching it now. Dan has become this. Perfect telestrator operator. He's very good at describing things. Dan is very like I am A. We're big fans of Danner lots over here. Well that's the thing though pat with you you think. Everybody can bring both the energy in passion and excitement with the intellect. You're one of the only people that can do that. That can inform people but also get people super excited and be funny at the same time like there's not many people on the planet that can do that. Pat. I feel the same way about you. Aj you know what the thing about you is your so dry to. Nobody understands your humorously. I would assume that when you worked with some people. It was very difficult for that. They thought they couldn't get a budge on you. I would assume that is the case. Because I don't know how you don't have full-time somewhere. I honestly don't. There's a Kadewe right here you're looking at my full-time GIG PAT. Oh this is full-time through ask three days. Yeah I was just looking at my future. See if it was possible. I think this show is a potential. Maybe you know full-time thing. Yeah I I. It's probably an accurate representation of myself but you those golf. You have those golf events with all those celebrities to gyms cruise cruises and Ohio state. So probably have take the show off on those times but other times. I think we'll just continue to do this. What happens? Yeah we're here for the foreseeable future. I don't think anyone's going anywhere really doing a whole lot. So yeah why not all right? Well we gotta get out of here You don't have any more backdrops us at two backdrops set up. Oh Yeah I forgot. We're in the middle of that and be honest. Probably fucking reaper pepper dude. I'm that's all I'm thinking about it and you're shook you're shook like you. Are you feel right now? Like I used to feel the night before a conditioning test in college. I used to feel that way too. I understand exactly what? That's exactly how I feel right now. You're just you're nervous and whatever you're doing before it doesn't matter because it's like you're not even hear nothing matters. None of the. I can't prep for this. This is just. I'm just jumping into a situation that's going to suck and I'm just staring at right down a barrel. But I'm earn money for people and I want to let them be mentally tough enough to get that thing up to at least forty five hundred bucks which would be three minutes without touching anything. Do you have milk? Ready is supposed to help from what I've been told there's been a bunch of experts that have Sent me twitter messages. Not Messages between you get it that I've been like you know you got to fight fire with fire. Warm Up Tortilla. Toss that thing on your and then somebody's like do all the time. It's not the milk. It's actually the ice cream you need to put on your your tongue there. Then everybody has their own idea. Everybody has their own agenda. I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm GONNA have a drink because they're paying out the money to the commenters and I'm going to have milk. Probably that's GONNA end up just getting doused on my face if I had to guess what would be fun for for people to watch now. I'm glad you're doing it. You should talk to Chris. Is it Chris Evans? Who runs at first? We feast the hot wings. Show you to watch. I do just call him or the column reach out to him. I mean you're an internet celebrity. You're a huge star. I'm sure he'd be excited to get a message from you. I am nowhere near the hot ones level. That is Think you are. You're he seemed. He's a cool dude. He seems like it. Have you met him? No ceiling from interviewing people that are eating ferhat things. He does a very good job at the show. Yeah it's a new weird concept that you wouldn't think of and it's taken off great idea for show great show just like cold. His Balls Kevin Hart. The interview in Awkward Situations is always good and John Evans is great job. I think so again. We'll probably see that more now. Like people thinking of weird situations they can put you into because everyone will podcast. They've all done. I don't WanNa just sit one on one on anything. I need to come up with like a hook with something that makes me different from everybody else while the TV's turning into Internet right now they're facetime with people from backdrops our next one. It's literally an Internet. This is they're doing internet shows on TV right now. The next one is Michael Irvin. This was the call heard. Ron Houston one. Yeah Oh this guy's the basement of a church or a Ymca or boys and Girls Club. Maybe his house. I'm not sure the hanger in the background with his suit. This one is the best one not bad lit by the way not bad lighting but the optics just seem like you know what this guy is in the middle of something for sure. Get them the hell out of here. I mean Michael. Irvin's is pretty amazing. I I like that. Especially the he drops the he dropped. Supplement gets ran everywhere after he comes out yonder. Hopkinsville O'Brien comment. So it'll be interesting to see over the next twenty four to forty eight hours if we hear anything from Bill O'Brien in the Texans Organization and I give credited Yonder Hopkins. I guess we're kind of standing up for well is there? There's no one that's going to be better than that. Is there puke thinking about what's going on here in an hour? Why are you so nervous? You agree to do this. Why are you so nervous? I thought to do this. Two point. Two MILLION SCO two point two million scovill chart. What does that mean? What does that mean? I have no idea w pepper. Diggs got it. It came in his bag. It's dried to drive when we have to put it in water for fifteen minutes. It's going to be awful man. There's a lot of seeds in ones I seen to law the seeds man. Yeah I think you should just just block it out you'll be fine pat. Don't worry about it. A motivational speech. Report Tim Tebow. Video really did something. Aj You feel good about. Go run into this right now. I'M A PUKE. I I'm GonNA think about it a little bit more. Go do this Carolina reaper thing. Hey you know what I think we should make. Sure your guys are monitoring Timmy T. Boz social media channels. If he has more inspirational speeches will. We should start out each show with that. I vote Yay by the way for that. We're doing a democratic process. I'm all in on that. Okay good and it's done well. We'll see if tim was that his house. Us Post workout in his house. I think you should film a post workout video like that. Well the first thing you have to do is work out that you know what I mean. That's what I'm saying dat film a post workout video you. I have to fake it then. Fake run up and down the steps a few times. Get Out of breath. Spritz yourself with water yeah I'd say Berg big workout today guys know grindstone keep going keep it rolling guys that Love You PAT McAfee Inc. small business owner colts. Listen I know I know the covert nineteen running wild and it's raining and I know a lot of you are jobs. Would don't forgive fucking day largest did I just did like a man and that's what everybody should do. No we will. I think there's enough Tim tebow motivational speeches out there. I have one for a day I think until we get actual Tim. Tebow on here to motivate us through the play. That's all do until we get actual Tim Tiba motivation. We Will Watch Odom Tivo motivations dig digs updates in here for the for the update Ravens and Sam. Cooke agreed a two year extension for Sam. Cooke really good really good ball punter for the Baltimore Ravens. He has all the shots in his bag. The Baltimore Ravens Fans. Were not happy when I get elected. Pro Bowl over him Both years I got elected so I respect and appreciate the love. That Baltimore has for Sam Cook and I also have a bunch of love and respect for what? Time Cook does football. He's very good now. He's richer and you. You have him back in. You have the best kicker in the League right now to Justin Tucker. They're so good. You would not want him. Have Justin Tucker Avenue holder right now? At this point Sam Cooke myself be able to punt for the next thirty years as long as Justin Tucker taking does not gonNa want him to have a new older just too good. What if you bring a new older and then all of a sudden Justin Tucker just go to shit? You're like Oh wait a minute. Wait a minute it's the real thing. People don't realize that PAT. I know you've talked about it before but I know I'm good buddies with nugent. I mean having a good holder is huge. Ever mentioned though people have gotten jobs because they're good holder they can. They're like an equal partner. Maybe a little bit less of a punter. But they're good holder bank. Get Him in there. That person gets the job. This is the way it goes. Yeah Justin Tucker is unreal. What's He did wisely so good. He's he told us on our show that he focuses on focusing. So he's he has this ability to just laser focus on something and he says everything is like basically the same kick but he does get nervous. He said he does get nervous when he thinks about stuff but he focuses on and then he just bombs. Footballs I mean. He's he's like he's like big PAPI back in there whenever I'm not saying he's on anything but watching him kick a ball it's like a homerun derby it's like it's it's good. Are you saying big PAPI was on something? I'm just saying whenever like Barry Bonds and mark mcgwire. Sammy Sosa would step in the batter's box. You knew that a big ball is coming. That's what Tucker is like. If you respect the kicking game. It's like a fucking slaughtered. Football is coming right up here in a couple of seconds and that's not normal than happen often sings opera and plays the piano dudes like a well rounded do. I'm not knocking opera singers. But I've seen too many come on America's talented really respected opera. Singing it's hard. I say that I don't understand what they're saying. But America's got maybe my ear is just too ignorant but whenever they come on. America's Got Talent. They all sound the exact same same. Justin Tucker. Maybe I just don't have levels to it but I don't know if opera singer now he can sing regular to which I think is very better than anybody that I know personally but the opportunity. I don't think it's an impressive and boy. I'M GONNA get murdered by High Society. I think it's pretty impressive. I definitely do really. Yeah I know I can't do that with volumes right. Yeah I don't know maybe some kind of trick trick us now. I think all sound the same like I don't know if there's differences in opera singers like what I hear an opera singer on America's got talent. Okay it sounds the exact same way as the Internet video. I seen of the Italian opera singer. Screaming off of his patio to everybody in the village. Sounds the exact same to me. They sound the exact. I don't I I mean all that tells me is. There's a ton of talented people out there. That can sing their ass. Off and only small percentage makes it or or flip side of that which would be a little bit negative which word super easy and everybody can sing opera. That's what I was. That's what I was saying. I don't know unless somehow I wake up tomorrow and I'm able to sing like that. I will have to stick with my beliefs. Yeah but can you dance? Nope dancing a relatively easy thing to it. Depends who you ask. It's relative to subjective. I guess you could say oh. You're a good dancer. But you're not as good as Justin. Timberlake look what is theirs loved to play. That's a good too by the way he did. An entire concert was just him and a microphone. Standing in a circle thing with an entire arena. Found he just dances ass off for two and a half hours. Yeah he's really good. I've been to one of the shows. That dude is unbelievable. He's super talented. Yeah there's a lot of people out there. I guess you see that if you watch. America's got talent love of mass singer. Don't you I got into it? The first season I it's too long drawn out. I want to know more people are tell me. Tell me more quicker. Let's move forward. I WANNA find out more. You could do that. Why don't you do the math singer? I got asked to do the local one here in Indianapolis. I'll tell you what I did so I didn't get the response. Somebody took it some other. Local celebrity took it before I can even respond. They took it what I ever. Because it's massingir you don't know who it is. That's the thing until the end but I didn't respond quick enough. I was like they said you have until Friday to respond on Thursday. Got An email. It said well spots are taken see later. It's probably blew colts mascot. Who Else is in Indianapolis? Good Larry. Bird Jameis Winston going. I know we're wrapping up. I'm curious about what happens with James for some reason I am too. That's the biggest question mark for me. He's GonNa get a backup role I think I don't know if he's going to be named starter. It's GonNa be a tough draw for him. He's like man. I was still a bunch of pigs but I was still learning Bruce. Arians system that I still was very productive. Like there's no way. He used himself as a backup. No Way and by the way. I very much understand. Why feels that way through for five thousand yards? But there are so many quarterbacks in the market right now. So there's so many quarterbacks that are moving where does the Los Angeles chargers An option for right now from what all reports are being said who knows what's valid and not Cam Newton in charges are probably going to happen. Mc Sense doesn't that seem like a good fit for cam to be and it feels like a good fit for the chargers by the way. Cam Bring some star power and if he can play good football and they can win a little bit. That's good news. Whitten sign with Oakland or with the La Raiders. Las Vegas Yeah. Got Me Thinking. Though is that they're saying does the corona virus deal. I is this going to delay them moving to Las Vegas. They might go back to Oakland. They said Magin that that'd be came out and said that this isn't going to affect the stadium being built or anything now so today they say that today. What are they going to say tomorrow? Where we say. We don't have a couple of days ago because they're worried about a news because like with the Casino shut down everything but apparently like I don't know they said it's not an issue okay. Well then I have to believe that but yeah we'll wait and going to play for. Grooten is he wants to play football. He's grinder man. He's legit wouldn't do it for twenty five years in the League now somebody just knock knock on wood if with me. I thought somebody knocked on a door. I thought we were getting potential kicked. Go Home Others. A full panic. That was a cop knocked. It's either just did right there. I mean that was knocking on wood for knock on wood. If you're with me man Jason Weapons Lock in Reno. These weather okay. All right I'M GONNA have to get on board with you guys group celebrations sonars Dude Donna. Whoa WHOA WHOA WHOA age. We're not taking that. That's John GRUDEN'S I. You know my favorite part about the show is people. Send me some clips. Is here all the guys in the background with little comments? I can't hear it why we're doing the show because like if someone's talking it mutes them or whatever and I hear in these clips of guys just making little comments to me. After I say something and I'm making good that's good news. The guys feel good about that. Hey guys it's always connor counters voice trump's all and he's like. Oh come on. You always has like a disappointed weird comments about this. His hair is trying to do. Your hair does. Yeah what what. What am I supposed to do here? Aj I think I lost it a little bit. It's all good. Man Got Nice curls. Back there curly hair naturally. Hang time you sweet with a backwards hat. Well when you're growing out the thing you're so juiced about is getting some hang up. The back of your helmet up could hang time. I never had any curls. Unfortunately you said yesterday and I quote. I had that roddy white trash long hair. I'd ever said White Trash. I would never try to grade anybody. I thought that's what he said. We heard now. You can run the tape back. I don't think so here Jeff. Khuda said that her clip right here in Oregon out of your Fifty seven minutes. I'm Doug Good luck with your pepper. Pat I cannot wait. I've not tune in live most likely I'll check it out later. Come on you're GONNA be able to win if you're not commenting. Oh Yeah you're right. I can win so if I come at if I say like actually we're going to keep the comments for twenty four hours. Actually but if someone guesses what if I say two and a half minutes and that's your time I get paid now now. Now you've got your name in there and he's going to enter your your cash in their connor. Can you enemy in their own? Some money I got. Jj No pro. I gave it. Give me flying down seven seconds. Are you funneling money through connor? Yeah give me your name. Connor. I'll send you some cash free connor. This is smart. Sounds with all these horses to. I'm and I'm losing. We're betting on a lot of horse. Racing in Asia has a lot of money so you just make sure you get that horse racing going on. Oh Hey that's like two hundred yard racist. Things are over in ten seconds like this. You just Bentley. Quick Twenty five bucks over fuck moved at our next one by the way never my life thought I'd get into horse racing. Tv Right now is rushing the game. Because I have a niche to scratch when it comes to the gambling world. There's nothing like it you. I know nothing about these damn things. Nothing nothing at all and I'm just come home. Three come O our. You'd have like one of those horse handicapper guys. What Randy Moss the other randy? Moss does that the other Rambo Randy mouse receiver one. Nbc Randy Moss Moss. I WanNa talk to Espn Randy Moss. Cash cash talked to him. Both then I don't think we can get. Espn Randy Moss. I'm about a hundred percent. Sure we get. Mdc ready myself. I think you could do it with. I think you underestimate your the the poll. You have pat. I don't like I don't like asking people I don't Wanna I don't like I don't like making people think that they should have to do something. Some accents I don't like asking people come on shows it's brutal awful and other you and me are similar that when people would ask us to do stuff we do it and as soon as we get done like. I hated that so now when it comes to me asking people to do stuff. I think I'm in the same way where it's like. I don't WanNa have to ask people to do something but the thing about you though. I'm sure you got done with it. You didn't want to do it going into it. You agreed you did it but then you get done. You're like man. I hated that whole time the whole situation there but I guarantee you you were still on and you gave a great interview or a great talk to the people and their men. He was amazing. He seems so engaged. Just really wanted to be here. Let's do it again with running back next week. I'm like booked maybe a couple of way. What time what did you wouldn't you want to Tuesday. Yeah I'm booking sorry. I got a bunch of stuff back Wednesday spill in. You know Tuesday's spill in a Wednesday. That's why people wouldn't know though you you're yeah you're good. You're good at what you do. So people think Madison made it. Pat Loves US. He's a friend of the show. And then the second you hang up never again. That doesn't happen on a regular basis. I would like the boys watch me do basically everything but when it does happen man. Those are good days. Those are good good days. Those are good days. I have so much fun of. I've been around you a few times pat where we've been around some questionable people and then the second they can often elevator or they're out of our sight. That guys don't work really because that guy's best friend you had me fooled all right Well everybody watches it. You will never land yourself in that position with me because I appreciate you spending your day with McAfee and Hawk sports talk. I have to prepare myself for what's about to happen. I have to do this now. Thanks everybody thinks guys for setting up. Thanks for people for Watson. Can't wait to see you eat pepper. All right we're back tomorrow. You're going to give us your top three landing destinations for Jameis Winston tomorrow on McAfee and Hawks Sports Talk. Aj Hawk breaking down. Where and how much exactly for James Winston as future will be? Why not? Why not you can you can. I'll start doing research now. Pat People love those lists on the Internet. Man They love those lists like. Who's the top top five point guards deployed in the eighties in the NBA? Like people they go back to list when there's not a lot of live sports action happening all right. So we need your list of the top middle linebackers from the sixties and also top players never have had a concussion when having over a thousand tackles in the NFL's history that's can be tough. I'll see what I can do. Are you the only one? No there's tons there's tons of us out there and I think I think he'd be surprised path. You used to wear like a baseball cap as a helmet. Back in the day the advancements in the helmet and just the last ten years our next level unless your jaw line just eats things which it could by the way cuts glad he feels like you potentially had your you know but I don't know what that means in this particular case. It's a concussion. Oh okay sure. Don't start on the helmets PAT. You know that you know. That's not a thing. What like the helmet advancement has really cut down on concussions? Come on now. These superlight plastic helmets. That look awful. You can't sit back and tell me that they're all better than some of the old school heavy helmets. I did not expect this date from I. Abso- happy that we found ourselves here so you don't believe in the new helmets you don't think they're more safe than the old school ones. The only I'm sure some of them are but my only thing and I've I've told you this before but I understand with vitamins CD that you forget things at times but if there was one helmet that was better than all the others they would only be one option pat. You know there's like twenty five different makes and models you can choose from when you get the NFL. And I'm like wait okay. Well what are we doing here? Why are there so many options? What are we talking about? How when they came out with that pamphlet that like rated them each like they were a maddened player. Like this one. Its lighter and better for speed but the protection on the sides is a little bit higher. So if you're gonNA take some cross shots thinking about this helmet this helmet good all around helmet a little bit uncomfortable though. They have like a fool. Mel kiper breakdown on each helmet. And then by the time you get to like the sixtieth one. You're like I've just give me the one that fits my head. I don't know what to do. That was a very interesting times whenever they were trying to transform that. Oh Shit they still are trying to always come up with new technology which they should but guess. What if you're going to be wearing a helmet? You're going to use it to strike other players superbowl champion. Aj Hawk admits to using helmet as weapon. I mean now first off. That's just dumb. Rhonette SAM run. It back. Brought it back if you have a helmet on. It's going you're going to have to. It's not just for protection. You have to use it so it's eleven so it's so it's like a star. Same Way Pats. Leg is a weapon. His right leg is hey. You're a hundred percent. Don't store because the store I was GonNa say this once thunder. This was lightning. Don't get caught in the storm but I didn't. I didn't finish because that reapers still just Kinda looks right on my head right now. Yeah I feel bad for you. That's a that's a rough feeling that I think a lot of athletes can understand like the day before your first two days or three days did night before when you try to go to bed When you know you have to run twenty half gases under seventeen seconds. The next day with thirty seconds rest like those nights in those mornings are not fun like you can have anybody talking. Could tell you any like you're not going to retain any information you're prepared for this. That's what some people say you'll be ready. It's like am I know I know. I don't actually. I'm not ready because I've I've run twenty four hundred Gaspar's last week in preparation and I thought I was dead after fourteen so I. I don't know if I am prepared I am. I was born for this. I've been through this before I'm GonNa go. Aj I appreciate you Great Show today. I can't thank you enough. We'll be back tomorrow at one o'clock and we run. That are open. Look good feel good to play good. Placate make lifted right. You see that. 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We're joined now by all-pro and three time pro bowler of the Pittsburgh steelers defensive Lineman Cam Hayward I'm doing like Cam you don in quarantine over there. How's life man making do? I got the kids running around My wife stuck with them right now. But we're making we're making do A lot of board games. Yeah I mean. People are really going back to the old ages of how to stay entertained. I watch horse racing. My lady busted out shoots and ladders game last night. I mean things are getting old. School can my wife doesn't like when I put the TV on especially with all the NFL. Free Agency stuff going on so a lot of board games making up games as I go Dig about setting up like a PUTT. Putt rows abasement. Says I can. That's very smart. These are things get very creative with over the next potential. Three months people are saying maybe a year. Just lock it down that big brain of yours Cam You saw yesterday then. The Philip Rivers signed for twenty five million dollars with the Indianapolis Colts effectively naming him to start her over Jacoby. Do you take any blame in ruining Jacoby percents career with what you did. I didn't come back after. Yeah he was not the same though that play by you. I just want to let you know that was one of the most impressive feats of strength I've ever seen in my entire life going into a game against a guy like Quinton Nelson who's been heralded as a road grader. As something like that as an injury or defensive linemen. Is that something where you're like okay? This is a marquee matchup. Is that something that happens for D. Lineman or is it just like every week I do my job no hell yeah. It's a marquee match up You know I I love Quinn. I love the way he plays But you know all we coast. He had been hyping up altogether. First round over there and Me Bud teaser life. Well Shit we got A. We got first rounder over here. Strep is that Tomlin's mentality Kinda because Chris Boswell has told me that whatever he's going through something or something like that like. Tomlin will come over and joke with them and like Tomlin told Chris Boswell like hey we're big fans of your Baas but Sebastian Jankowski about the potential beyond the marketing. Like China. Tomlin is that like how Tom Like. Gets people going motivated and kind of interact? He's the King Pettiness. No it's not a satellite suit it's fitting. I haven't even Texaco st about The Derrick Watson but. I'm just wait from be like yeah now we're going for J two by the way the entire Internet is. He's thinking that because Bill O'Brien training people for second round picks that he doesn't like personally. Jj Watt has. That's what I was insane by the way we all felt the same way. Did you hear what Michael Irvin said? This morning would reserve. So Michael Irvin said that the Andre Hopkins. Talk to him now. This is all according to Michael Irvin. Who was face timing into get up this morning from a church basement? It looked like the tiles were kind of going down. But he said that. Bill O'Brien and Deandre Hopkins had to have conversations about a power struggle. And things like that like bill. O'brien and Deandre Hopkins did not get along. I guess he's been shopping in a couple of years but the thought of. Jj Watt get moved out of Houston to Pittsburgh. Would that be something you would enjoy or hate You know I love the talent but you know I like to think we gotta great align going forward so suit How's that work? You GotTa get rid of me. I like my stay in Pittsburgh but You know I know we got a Lotta great guys and Jay. Have to play cornerback. The way we're all your defense. Last year was incredible. I mean you guys are winning games and nobody thought you were going to be able to win. You'RE A team. The number of talking about under the radar. You Lose Ben Rothlisberger. Obviously Antonio Brown led Bell leave the team. Nobody knows this back. Then the trade of minkah Fitzpatrick Everybody Tomlin stupid. And then that defense became a dominant factor in that. Afc North your defense is GonNa have to remain. What is it like trying to contain the Lamar Jackson style offense? Because that's obviously who you guys are going to have to go through to get to where you WANNA go man. You'd never got put more in the box You know that account for him. He's he's an extra runner Most of the time. When you have a quarterback there who can't run you know you you take one out of the box and don't think of them as a runner But Lamar brings that extra element You know and then having a guy like Marcia Yada block them for you always help but You know it's always a feat to try to contain him and get after him so It's GONNA be all hands on deck mirrow now. I thought that the martial yonder retirement was going to be a much bigger deal than I think. A lot of people were thinking because of how dominant he is as an offensive lineman is. They're clear differences between good offensive lineman average offensive. Because they're saying there's a shortage of good offensive lineman right now in the NFL as a whole because the college game is in the NFL. Game is man. I tell you what we prepare. We are in no in. If you don't know the ducks are you're in the wrong sport. You know we we pick on those we prey on those Marshall GonNa was never one of those You had to bring it every game and The fact he could play guard center tackle. You know that's a combination you don't really see as much Any he's done. It perfectly should I remember one game. They had to clean my left tackle. I was like he didn't even give up. A set. Timeline guard moves out in the space. You're like damn that's going GonNa be a rough day. But he held her down. Why is that is that? Because they're like if they can't change their like why why are offensive linemen and granted. We're talking to a defensive lineman about this but I would assume that you study a lot of offensive lineman. What are the tells in? Why is it hard for those guys to move you? Think When you think about the guards you know. They liked the jump line. Scrimmage is you. Jump at the line of scrimmage as a tackle a free line for fast linebacker You know I think sometimes Being in that box and being a guard where you got help from the Senate you can have help from the guard on tackle. Sometimes you'd be on an island especially left tackle you You know usually you put the you know you're you're tied into the right circle so you get on that island you get exposed quick You know it it's. It's not an easy easy task. Play left tackle in this league. Let's transition back to the Pittsburgh. Steelers future conversation Ben Rothlisberger. Hopefully back next year. What does he like in the Locker Room as a team? What does he bring to the team? everything man You know I think we all saw And it's not a shot at you know Mason our debt duck but to have a hall of fame quarterback back there Complete their offense As a defense shoot you know you. You want that type of command of the ball off of the side because it helps you as defense recover You know the more three now to get more three nights. Get for your defense gives more opportunity offense so You know I think Ben Heck Villier than I think. With everything that's gone. can be misconstrued but When he starts on that field we know. We're getting quality quarterback when Antonio Brown was there for that last year. I believe you're on the team then right. Yeah you're obviously that entire situation. What was the conversation in the locker room about it because it was leaking out into the public obviously in the public? Only here's whatever's getting leaked and now there's a thought that he's potentially GONNA end up back with Tampa Bay. What was it like to kind of watch that transition process with Antonio Brown going from being best wide receiver in the NFL best wide receiver in the NFL THREAT? Basically and special teams and wide receiver. In every single. Play to a man. It wasn't happy locker room moving forward ending up in the raiders and the Patriots and on the streets and everything like that men. It was crazy. be questioned myself. I was like Damn What the heck are we doing like I couldn't believe all the stuff was reading and you know seeing on TV. I was like You know empire terrible leader Has this team been bad for that long But now you see you know there. There was more to it You know I want you to be great and you know I beg and plead that we keep a a b because of the talent. He is but You know we have a lot of great players that can make up for that and it's not a shot but we gotta You know understand that you know. It's not just one guy. He's got to be a team sport. You know you know the quarterback's of the ball to the wide receiver so the line and blocked the running backs run. You know it takes everybody to win a game. It's not just one guy but that do definitely as baller you know wherever he ends up is going to be trouble because You know get that dude and open space and one on one. He's GonNa kill you. Did you guys realize inside the locker on that? This was happening with him. Did you guys realize okay. This guy's not happy being here anymore. It was like was there like a switch flipped or did it happen over time or did you guys not even know this was happening. I Dunno defenders. We thought it was this bed. You know I think you know you. You don't WanNa be in clicks or anything but you know defense is always around. Defense offices are on office. You know special teams. Want to be around the defense guys crazier but Through increasing that's very true. That's yeah but You know you just you you you take a step back like what is going on here. You know why. Why why why did it lead us? you know. I thought it could be fixed. It could in when that's where we are well team still damn good. That defense you guys had last year was legendary. Everyone's talking about the bears going into the season about how the offense is. GonNa win them Games. It turned out the Pittsburgh. Steelers defense was winning a lot of games. Obviously Paying Philip rivers with defensive lineman hurting other quarterbacks. Well can't wait to play good when he does he so he chirps a lot. Have you ever been in a Chirp with Philip Rivers? Nah You know I talk after I do. I don't talk before so you know. I love him here but You Know Philip is really good friends with one of my neighbors So he he tries to take it easy on the most part. Are you a talker out? There are no I like to start anything but I will finish it savage. Do you go right for the throat right for the jugular. What you say or do you kind of build and and do give no. There's no building I'm trying I'm trying to Tko. I am because if you wait. You're going to give somebody opportunity to come. That's that's my thing. Absolutely no I've been told in practices like you gotTa take it easy. You'll need to be going. That harden cut cut. How do you feel about seventeen GMC season as a defensive Lineman? That's coming sucks but You know You know we're GONNA do about it cry about it. You know. Play football Markey's Ponzi was not happy. I mean the Markey's Pouncey was not happy that video of him driving where he was talking about putting up two hundred and he was not happy with that extra game. Potential involved by the way a lot of players weren't happy and then current virus happened then. Free Agency happened now. We're kind of moving past it but that's GonNa be a real thing that you guys are going to have to address at some point especially in a position towards hand to hand combat every single day seventeen games is going to be a drag man is going to be a drag You know but you know I'm I'm not I'm not gonNA cry now so it is what it is. You know you move on and We voted on it. Pass so be it you know. I wish I could have been the video on the back saying pounds. Calm down but You know I understand. We comes from you know you know you look at it and say you know it's owners want to say it's about you know safety. Why are we adding more games but At the end of the day it does provide a lot of money for a lot of younger guys with a CPA and A mall for those guys getting their money. Hey those very a that was a super politically correct. Answer is really you really balanced out. Very nice what year is this. Wow what year is this for you. I'm going in the ten congratulations man. It's not easy. I'm just trying to catch you. You already did. You played more than eight now. I'm done eight and I'm gone. Yeah see later. Yeah so how the Hell did you get? Go on Indianapolis exist to go crazy for you every time you on the field well. There's this alleged incident that happened in October. Twenty two thousand ten and it really endeared me what the hearts of the hoosiers here and by the way I will never leave. I love this place out here. I love the people here. But yeah the I was the only punter that would get cheered coming onto the field at home. It wasn't like that for the first four years ago. I get booed coming on the field cheering everywhere. It's way different. Like we've played games in indy and like to see you. It's like a gladiator. It's like cheering you on them. Like it's a damn partner is crazy grow like everybody loves you lie. The thing would have been awesome as being on the defense side. You know putting your hand up fourth down. We did our job and then as you're jogging off the crowd of you know how much that would find Pittsburgh. We've had some good Special teams but You know Jeffrey Johnson I don't know how how good they would feel about that right now. Jeffrey beating the hell out of that paper Towel Dispenser Man Digs die. Hard steelers fan has a question for you. Yeah congrats Yvonne Hargrave for getting paid? Do you think you'll be moved down inside a little bit more with with you into it or does it like the game is changing where it's a lot more nickel dime so you? Maybe don't need to nose tackle. You need the nose tackle when you play teams that are heavy rain based like Tennessee team. you know where they just want to line up and go straight down your throat. You know You know there's so many of cell teams in like the get you like nickel base where the nose tackle becomes non existent but I thought which He was able to play knows but also he will play. D. Tackle so You know I don't think I'll be sliding in that much You know if I do so be up but You know I. I like to play the three more than anything Random human just popped in the background facetime there. Who's at it out right now? Hey what's going on man? There was up. How does he use four? Wow Wow war got a basketball and start doing a little office basketball hoop shot right now. In the Middle Cove in nineteen that gets going to be seven foot tall. Yeah like my wife played like volleyball in college. So thanks I feel so good about my observation. That's shadow painting. You have behind. You is pretty dumb. See got this made for one of the CHRISTMASES playing Cleveland picked up a fumble or now had to step arm a wide receiver. So pretty and you ever thought about it and somebody in the head with around helmet. Have you ever thought about hitting somebody in on brother? Have you ever thought about hitting somebody in in head with their own helmet? I can't say that it's cross my mind. Pro Bowler Albro Dot D. Lineman for the Pittsburgh steelers and his son Cam Straight. You guys I come back anytime. And you get bored. And it's Corentin just based on back anytime you want but got shares Do Boo Boo.

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Steelers-Browns, Myles Garrett, Baker Mayfield, & the Blazing 5

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Steelers-Browns, Myles Garrett, Baker Mayfield, & the Blazing 5

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Friday this is the heard wherever you may be. In however you you may be listening iheartradio foxborough trail blazing five my strongest. I swear to you of the year in one hour. Feel great with blazing five joy Taylor from Pittsburgh. uh-huh Mason Rudolph may have driven nuts last night for the first three and a half hours. You find yourself defending him after that. Debacle that embarrassing league-wide the buccal last night. Let's blame it on the browns not the NFL. What did you think well discuss that all day? But I mean it's IT'S A. It's a rivalry intentions are high. But you can never turn the game off to watch the very last second you do and and let me start with the. NFL has come down breaking news. myles Garrett suspended indefinitely out for the year out for playoffs. So Cleveland thought they won last night. You're still behind the steelers. And the standings let me start with this US stop defending myles Garrett Ohio get off the Internet. You've embarrassed yourself long enough in the League for your play. You're embarrassing yourself for defending myles Garrett if I jumped you in a bar and then seven seconds later hit you over the head with a beer bottle in those seven seconds. When I'm on top of you you have a right to grab me wherever you want and swing wildly to defend yourself mason? Rudolph was illegally attacked a penalty. And then a guy thirty pounds heavier than him jumps on top of it. Miles Rudolph can do whatever the hell he wants for those seven seconds between getting hit illegally penalty elitist getting hit over the head with a helmet. It's called self defense gate. You knocked me down and get on me in your forty pounds heavier. I'll scratch claw grab any any party you I want. That's called self defense. That is a write in America. A judicial right. Forget sports stop it. This is a one hundred percent percent on myles Garrett. You know what this isn't baseball this would be. I'm a pitcher. I throw it. You hit you rush to. The plate grabbed the bat. And hit you over the offense. And you're making the pitcher the victim L Mason Rudolph has a right to Self-defense. As a forty the pound man heavier forty pounds heavier attacking him. I mean myles Garrett is one of the. NFL leaders in late hits and penalties. You don't know if the guy's wired appeared right after he throws the helmet he's not so this is a hundred percent on myles Garrett you. I can't walk up to you. Tackle you a Barbie on top OP. You and you can't fight back you grab my is you grab your car keys. You Stab you do whatever that self defense then I grab a bottle and bang you over the head with it. Then the cops aren't going to come Um and go. He stuck with car keys in the neck. They'RE GONNA go. Hey good move you got him offiah hunters myles Garrett second thing is there something called foreshadowing. You see movies you see it in books called foreshadowing. It's giving clues through a movie. You watched the end of the movie and you go. Oh those little hints through the Movie Lot of foreshadowing Shadowing in that game last night. Five or six helmet on helmet hits by the BROWNS. That was very much buddy Ryan in the nineties. That was very much Greg Williams. That was very much a message and a plan going into that game by Cleveland. That's called foreshadowing. The clues throughout the game now myles Garrett Eric because all these incidental helmet on helmet heads these look and then you watch that the late head on Mason in the helmet foreshadowing and this was a game plan now. Freddie Kitchens got very defensive about that what do people get defensive about when they're guilty they get very defensive. Here's Freddie Kitchens Cleveland's coach after the game. I'm on that number okayed fights. Did you say that. Did you say okay fights. I never okayed fights. Did I want them to get after their ass. Yes I did. But that's not fighting. That's not after the whistle. But that's between the whistles yes I never condoned fighting on a football football field because that's penalties. I don't coach penalties. I don't coach fall starts coach after the whistle grabbing. Somebody's face masks coach. That gave Greg Williams or Buddy Ryan but there's messages Dad's in coaches can send and there was clearly last night. They're coming to our place. Multiple Helmet on helmet. Heads a steeler bleeding from the years. Then the tackle late in the game on Mason Rudolph off game no longer in doubt then the helmet Freddie. Nobody thinks you went in there and said grab a helmet and hit Mason. Rudolph you don't have to but there's a culpability and our responsibility ability as a head coach. To as an older man teaching younger men words matter and the messaging was clear last night from the opening kickoff be dirty and cheap. The third thing is if Cleveland would've lost last night Freddie Kitchens would be fired today because GM the M.. John Dorsey wants to fire him to save Baker Mayfield. Who should never have taken with the number one pick and the owner Jimmy has limb wants to fire him and maybe John Dorsey but because does Cleveland one two game winning streak chance to make the playoffs? I don't think so but many do they won't fire him. But Cleveland does. Now have an out. They can be martyrs Freddie Kitchens done. It doesn't matter what happens. Freddie Kitchens has done first of all they're not getting to the playoffs. They're not beating Baltimore. I don't think going Arizona beaten and they're a mess but now they can go. This was outrageous. John Dorsey can go. We are this is outrageous as an embarrassment embarrassment to the organization. We do not teach that Freddie. Kitchens must go. They would do that today if they lost they would do it today. They'd haven't out they could be martyrs. But it's Cleveland Low. Oh self esteem. I mean those are two games below five hundred this morning and they're all thinking. They made the playoffs already. That's Cleveland in a nutshell Pittsburgh. This morning's a five hundred team. Manet think we got to get our stuff together. You wake up this morning Pittsburgh still ahead of Cleveland. Cleveland already planning a parade for the playoffs but Freddie Kitchens would be fired this morning if they lost the game because they want him out everybody knows they want him out. But Cleveland not the reputation and the optics are horrible. They don't WanNa fire another coach. After a steeler alert game in the season so they won't fire but now they have the out to fire him they can be the martyrs. This is outrageous. This is disgusting. We've we feel terrible this I would never be condoned although clearly the messaging last night. We know what it was once again myles Garrett out for the year out for the playoffs baseball would do this if you hit somebody with a bat helmet ways what four or five pounds whatever. It weighs inexcusable. You know I'm not GonNa go as far as to call it a salt. It's sports assault outrageous just a hundred percent in myles Garrett. I think there was messaging by Cleveland going into that game. And Lemme Lemme then segue to this. Because Cleveland does deserve one person does deserve serve accolades Baker Mayfield. Forget his play. I couldn't give a rip after the game. They'll last night. He was what he rarely is in what I criticize him for. He was a grown-up he was adult. He was not emotional. He was bottom line. He was totally spot on talking about that vicious play by myles Garrett I I didn't see why it started but it's inexcusable. That Donald Care rivalry or not. We can't do that. That's in the history of what's going on here lately hurting yourself and that's just endangering the other team that's inexcusable. He knows that Now the reality is he he's GonNa get suspended We don't know how long that hurts our team and we can't do that. We can't continue to hurt this team. That's excusable tip of the Cat Baker. Mayfield that's what quarterback should say. No excuses don't blame. Mason Rudolph like the idiotic Arctic Brown fans totally on US totally inexcusable and by the way Golf Clapton Baker Mayfield who very critical of spot. On in excusable usable. But it's not going to change. And this is why bakers never gonNA reach his ultimate potential Baker. Mayfield a lot better than we've seen this year. He's he's not as good as we saw him at the end of last against Cincinnati twice. But he's a lot better than this but he'll never reaches potential in the NFL. He make a pro bowl as a backup. But I it covered the Portland Trailblazers Oregonian newspaper called in the jail. Blazers gave him that term because they were so dysfunctional. The reason they were dysfunctional is because the general manager a very smart guy who I like. Bob Whitsitt didn't care about character. That was the coaches issue and Bob would just go find players that have personalities didn't match. They weren't responsible. They weren't adult. The chemistry chemistry stinks and he would just give it to the coach and say figure it out. That's John Dorsey by the way. Do you know the browns actually released wide receiver before the game last night. Anthony Calloway light knucklehead drafted everybody else passed. This is what John Dorsey is. So Baker Mayfield GonNa have to overcome goofy teammates immature teammates teammate. You to hit people with helmets team to get thrown off the team before Thursday night game with the steelers. This is what Baker Mayfield reality is. When you have a general manager and I covered Hubbard One and he was really smart and I think John Dorsey is really smart? And Bob. WHITSITT could see talent. I'll never deny that and John Dorsey can see talent but there are these guys that run these these teams that don't care about chemistry. They don't care about maturity and I covered one and doors. He's one he doesn't care he doesn't care. Ob Jay who by the way. It's not a character issue but is personnel bring them in for Baker Kareem Hunt. Bring him in callaway. Bring a man. Dan Coach will figure it out. Well maybe that works Pete Carroll or Mike Tomlin or bill belichick. It doesn't work if he got Freddie Kitchens who probably shouldn't even be a head coach so the reality polity to Baker Mayfield career sub optimal owner. GM that doesn't give a rip about character and fourth coach in three years. Starting next Kirkuk. Freddie's done that guaranteed last night. He'll never reaches potential doesn't mean bakers better than what. You're seeing bakers better than this year. There's no no question but you you Patrick Mahomes is talented enough to overcome Carson. wentz Patrick Mahomes to Shawn Watson. These guys are talented wanted enough. I mean Andrew Luck overcame a pulse of owner badge. Em terrible line wrong coach bakers. Not that he's not lock. He's not the Shaun he's not that he's a fine young quarterback who were they very competent experienced coach Mike McCarthy with a very good gm who surrounds him. Chris Ballard with good character guys an owner. That's not impulsive but patient Baker could end up with a nice twelve year career. Make a pro bowl or two maybe as a backup in the AFC Z.. Get to a playoff game or to win one or two not a super bowl guy having to carry a team but this this is what he's going to have to deal with last night that Damon. He wants that game last night. DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT CLEVELAND. Did the most undisciplined team. I've ever seen in my life even when they win. You're like I don't feel. Oh good about that same with buffalo last week. We're like yeah. They won but other just see him in the red zone my stomach hurts just a mess. Blazing five and fifty minutes coming up. The one thing that was crystal clear after watching the steelers and the browns last night again myles Garrett suspended indefinitely out this year out playoffs laughs they get their that coming up wild day-to-day blazing five and forty five minutes. Be sure to catch live additions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am specific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP. Good Liar Peres. Helen Mirren and Ian mckellen mcallen Onscreen for the very first time that showdown of what happens when the perfect mark becomes the perfect match. The good liar is a smart suspense suspense thriller about the secrets. People keep the lies. They live keep audiences guessing. Who's counting until the very end brought to life by legendary actors merit in mcallen at the height of their crowds? The film offers a fun. Unpredictable game of Cabimas in the vein of cocky thriller imbued imbued with Intrigue Danger and surprising twist on November fifteenth. Read between the lies from Director Bill. Condon Good Liar. Rated aided are under seventeen dot admitted without parents only in theaters with precision Vixen X. Nasal spray works within seconds and works up to twelve hours. It's cold and flu season season. NFL is going to be handing out all sorts of fines and suspensions. We are told here at her. There's GonNa be multiple players. Who left the band? Who left it? Early Mason Rudolph off. The quarterback did not get fined has not been suspended. No punishment for the quarterback nor should there be. He's the quarterback. This is not every three other position. It's the highest paid. It's the most important it's the position you don't hit in practice. The quarterback is different. These are not all the same. It's like it's. It's like your ace in baseball. He only pitches every five days and he's on a pitch count second baseman. You're sick get out. Their quarterback is do you see this in business all the time nine. There are departments in every business and people that have certain access. You don't quarterbacks. Are that employees. You protect them. Once you get drilled late late I don't need pictures from Ohio. Guy Will Mason Rudolph grab this. Grab whatever he wants. He was illegally hit. He is Volna Real Bowl. quarterbacks can't see common then somebody bunks him on the head with a helmet. I am one hundred percent support all quarterbacks here they can be blindside hit. They're the most valuable. They're really the least protected. And so I have. No I think the NFL is sending a message. Don't mess with quarterbacks period period in fact I think myles Garrett would have done most of this against another player maybe afford a six game suspension. This is a message by the NFL. Don't kid yourself quarterback nothing. They got the tape. Nothing player out maybe forever Akeso Freddie Kitchens and Cleveland. This is typical Cleveland browns. They came in wanting to send a message the NFL sent one of them. Your best player out indefinitely definitely never mess with a quarterback and I would be defending Baker Mayfield today if a steeler did the same thing. You got to protect these quarterbacks. They're not like everybody else. We don't compensate them the same they got. They wear a special shield at practice. You can't hit him the same. That double was said this about college football. You can transfer all you want. But I think if you're a college quarterback you should be able to transfer one time because you put so much irreparable damage if you're bouncing around in and out of programs and college college coach wakes up on May have a quarterback the whole program. You can make it with a bad left tackle. You can't play without a quarterback so and the other thing I saw last night you know what I watched that was a four hour slog fast between two bad teams. Here's what I saw last night. This is Baltimore's division it's over. This is Baltimore's division Baltimore's got the best coach. They got the best identity. They got the best young quarterback by far they got the best tight ends. They got the improving defense. Maybe not as good as the steelers. But it's getting better. They've got experience a great front office. Great Scout they get Marcus Peters. That's what last night was. Everybody thinks it's about steelers. Browns sounds that game was about Baltimore season over division over. These teams are not playoff teams. And this is what happens in November and the NFL is that you can start eliminating teams James. You see certain things certain images like the rams against the steelers you're like Oh hell the rams interior offensive line. That's not fixable. Rams are not a playoff team out you watch Chicago. Two weeks ago against Philadelphia bears had one first half I down boom out. They can't play the next level against an elite defensive line and you know the NFC got phillies line cowboys. Line San Francisco Saints Line so you see these indelible images in November. You can't cancel a team in September Iraq told her but by November nine or ten games in problems there too late to fix you. Just don't have any. You don't have any remedy you don't have a trade deadline it's over. These teams are done. CLEVELAND HERE'S HOW bad Cleveland is that you didn't know. Cleveland had this game wrapped up until Mason Rudolph through his fourth peck. Your one hundred twenty yards in penalties. This game at home should have been over. Pittsburgh was on their backup quarterback their third string running back and lost their two best arguable to best receivers news and it wasn't done until Mason Rudolph through his fourth pick because Cleveland on disciplined tire fire. And it's for Pittsburgh they're done. I said this yesterday in the AFC. Tom Brady I got Patrick. Mahomes I got there a car. I got Lamar Jackson. I got this Shawn Watson Mason. Rudolph I mean come on this look. Just stop the nonsense. Maybe one of these teams sneaks in. But I don't think so Tennessee's better Ryan Tannehill compl- a little bit Oakland's better Indianapolis has very very jacoby percents coming back. The chargers Philip Rivers. These are awful. I mean listen I I really love Pittsburgh's history. I love their culture. I love there's so much like about Pittsburgh but when you get to November you can just start canceling checks. I mean you watch the Rams and you're like Oh hell you can't fix that it's too late you watch Chicago trubisky. They can't move the ball with a good deal on in Philadelphia. A season's over these teams. This is Baltimore's division Baltimore's better at everything identity align Coach now secondary. It's over. This was a mess that did this was just. I sat there and thought I I. I didn't work for Fox. I mean I was like I got to watch this because I gotTa talk about it tomorrow morning on my show. If I didn't work today I turned the game off. Those are not playoff teams joy with news in the news. This is the headline news that was brutal performance to wash my mason. And that's why. I said. The steelers should be in the conversation for getting a quarterback next year. Oh I think they have to drive one. I'm not I was never a believer in the first round. Pick go to the second round but Mason Rudolph is not the answer. Whatever the question is he's not he's not well? There was obviously a ton of reaction to the incident with myles Garrett Mason Rudolph last tonight online. Patrick mahomes tweeted Bro. I can't even believe that just happens. Jj Watt said that is insanity wow Dez Bryant. said he's done for the rest of the year Yawns Sanders Mason. Rudolph should be significantly find as well for trying to rip myles Garrett Helmet off his head which ignited the retaliation. He's not without fault. And the unfortunate matter. The physical emotional game played by men. Let's not forget that Hashtag truth. So obviously he's Somewhat in the other camp as far as Mason Rudolph being responsible for Bill Bill Belichick was informed this morning that this is a very big topic round the sports world is incident with myles Garrett and Mason Rudolph and he explained into that post play skirmishes have been address multiple time with the Patriots team. He said every situation is different. We can go back and look at fifty of these through the years some type of fighting rejections. They're all different. I wouldn't say it's like offside penalties a lot of different things happening different situations and so forth and so on. Yes fundamentally told players what we should do in those situations how we handle Alabama. I think they've done a good job with it. So this is something a bill ballot check actively teach with his team about before it happened. Obviously I I I can't even I mean we don't even would never see something like this with the Patriots should we. Here's the thing we have to consider myles. Garrett is heavily penalised like this is a myles Garrett thing now reputations this is going to play a role in which is like anything else. It's like as a parent if you have two kids one's never in trouble one always is the one that is the leash. Don't get the benefit of now. You don't get it look I. I don't think that Mason Rudolph fully without blame here but say that and then just go straight to the fact that there's no excuse for what Myles Garrett did you. You can acknowledge that Mason. Rudolph played a role in this but not but none none of it reaches that level it. None of it explains away or it's now down smiles retaliating found see for the steelers got suspended for three. I don't have a problem with him. Being suspended you can't kick people so now pouncey. There's an argument to be made these defending his guy. But you can't kick players in splicing three is excessive. But I'm not gonNA argue it either although I do think it's excessive however this again is not a story about the steelers. Are How pouncey retaliated from seeing his quarterback getting hit over the head with a helmet by one of the biggest strongest defense events in the league in that moment. Of of course things are going to happen. This is all about the browns. The browns won a very significant game last night and instead of talking about how they played what a good win that was when everyone thought they were going to lose it was except browns fans. Of course we're talking about what a disaster they are and they're just the most undisciplined team. Maybe of all time they've four ejections that's tied for most in the NFL. Since two thousand one they the most penalty to penalties accepted eighty seven and the most penalty yards eight. Hundred twenty two there. It's it's like a joke. They are literally the most undisciplined team. Perhaps in the history of the NFL but think about the last two weeks of your browns fan. You won both games but go to twitter. They've Dr- your your own team drove you crazy in the red zone because you were undisciplined. Unfocused mess and last night browns fans were like this is a disaster five seconds seconds left in the game five seconds so the cowboys are five and four top of the NFC east. But they've lost four of the last six games games and obviously need to step it up. Prescott however continues to express confidence in his team. He's not worried about their record right now. No concerns no concerns are they're gonNA They're gonNA flip in When we get flipping this team these players the character of these men? There's no doubt that is going to go the right way you look at it. We're playing better right which we just hadn't won those games so I mean I mean. We're we're continuing to get better. You don't want to peak too early and this is a confident group that no we're GONNA pick the right time We've got all the faith and trust that That we're going to get there. We're going to be accountable. Audubon doing that in a handle the things we need. I don't really have any doubt that they're going to win their division Stafford's not planning. Don't think this weekend so that's that's a win. That's it's a win just came down. I know they're going to win their division. The rest of their their season is at the lions than at the Patriots. The bills at home at the bears rams at home at the Eagles and the Redskins the eagles restless schedule. They're also fighting for Patriots seahawks at home at the dolphins giants at home at the Redskins the cowboys and then the giants giants. The Eagles have a slightly lighter schedule. But I'm not really worried about them winning the division and making the playoffs. It's what are you GonNa do in the playoffs. Yeah I think the way that they're playing in starting games is not gonNA work and play off all of the all the division leaders if we count the cowboys as a division leader of all the division leaders in the NFL one. I can't figure out their offense of identity. Houston is iffy. It's to Shawn Watson and cross your fingers but at least they've addressed their running game and aligns feel I like it to Sean and a running game. Dallas is good but I don't know what their identity is offensively and I don't think they do or they wouldn't give the ball Zeke against Minnesota late when I was playing the best game as a pro right and I I think for the for the last since Zeke is under the League obviously we said that it's as equal Elliott. Obviously their offense offensive. Identity was Ezekiel Elliott. But it's not feeling like that this year and that that's an issue for them. That's the way their team is built. Finally Big News in the NBA. Carmelo Anthony is getting another chance. He will reportedly signed with the Portland Trailblazers. And we're GONNA non-guaranteed deal. He'll join the team for their upcoming six Game Road trip which starts tomorrow in San Antonio the Blazers he's our thirteenth in the western conference right now with the foreign eight record so not a great start for the ways. Sierra who pretty much everyone felt like was going to be playing at this point you you know. People put their biggest longest defender on Damian Lillard and Portland needs a second gear. They've got some good players but they need somebody that can hit the eighteen footer. Even if it's not a three two and Carmelo they probably provides that. Hopefully that's what that's what they're hoping for you hasn't played since he was cut November fifteenth two thousand eighteen. But obviously he's been in a lot. I'm I'm very excited to see what he what he can do. I again I I don't I don't like the the narrative around Carmelo Anthony and I don't like the way that it seemed like it was going to end so I I'd like like to see him finish this year with the team and see what what he can possibly would certainly if he if he helped them. It would be a nice little caveat at the end of his career. Yeah Nice instill away at clunky right and I don't I don't think he deserved that kind of exit. Because he has been a great player and I say yeah for that way. We're not feel right. I'm not a Camello. Family is as a hall of famer joy with the news. Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping heard. Don't be the guy in the room. This look untucked shirt. Untuckit Dot Com code her twenty percent off off a guy. I just love Danny Kanell him for a long time former. NFL or six NFL years Great College Player in the ACC. He is joining us now via the coward. Global Satellite Network Danny Johny Canal and As Danny is prone to do that there is this. I saw my thought an Turtleneck this morning. So He's Gary Go. There's the Danny Canal I know and love all right. Let's start with this. I'll first of all they didn't suspend Mason Rudolph and that's like my analogy. Was this Danny. If I walked into a bar jumped on top of you six seconds later under hit you with a beer bottle in the six seconds between me jumping you and hitting you. You have six seconds to defend yourself. And I don't care if you take your car keys and rake my eyes I I. Don't I think Mason Rudolph. He's a quarterback this league's about protecting them. I wouldn't I wouldn't suspend him. I wasn't bothered but we're you. I was not so much I suspension. I'll be watching this closely to see if they do come out with a hefty fine for Mason Rudolph. Because you know you're the smaller guy. You're the quarterback position one. That's supposed supposed to protect your the one that had your helmet also again. You're left more vulnerable position but he was the aggressor. He was the initiator he was the first I want to grab myles Garrett Helmet before myles Garrett retaliated and then grabbed his and then again he went after chased after him which did allow this team this issue to keep escalating the way it did so I think if Mason Rudolph walks away unscathed on a really bad message and they're already is enough unfair advantage to playing the quarterback position if you let them walk away unscathed. I think it's I think it does it. Send the message the NFL should ascend which is really yes. Obviously you don't want to condone what Myles Garrett did. No one is saying that but you also don't condone any of this or anything any action that could lead up to this so I do think they will find Mason Rudolph. It's just a matter of how much we were talking about. Foreshadowing when you watch a movie and then at the end the final scene you see a senior. Oh Oh the movie had a bunch of clues in this wraps them all up. I thought that was foreshadowing. In the game by the time myles Garrett did what he did head when the game was over and I had four. helmet-to-helmet hits a steeler bleeding through the years. It felt very buddy Ryan. It felt very Greg Williams that you don't have to tell guys to rip somebody's head off but you tell guys hit a little late. Hit a little high. Were sending a message in the AFC. North I thought there was foreshadowing and I hold the browns responsible am my am I reaching no. I don't think you are. Here's the thing. I'm actually okay at times in a game. If if a defensive lineman or a defensive end linebacker is going to get the quarterback and the ball was out and he's going to take his chance and hugged him a little bit. It later passed the echo of the whistle right and you get a flag. I'm okay with that if that happens. And I think most defensive coordinators are situationally early in the game first path when it doesn't have too many ramifications and you can set a tone and all of a sudden quarterback has to be mindful. Hey these guys. They're coming after me today. You can get under their skin. The problem problem is and this has been something that's plagued the browns all season long is. They're not disciplined clearly. But they're also not very smart and I think that was something that Freddie Kitchens alluded to at the end of the game when he saying what what are we doing. There's five seconds left six seconds left in the game. And we're GONNA have this play out at that point in the game so not only. Are there undisciplined. They're really not that smart of a football team. Which is why you've seen this year? Play out the way it has and why. They're in this position clawing their way back and potentially make it a playoff run. Yeah in Baltimore by. The way is brilliantly coached in new. England is brilliantly coached and I think Indianapolis is very well coached who in the AFC where you have all sorts of really smart disciplined teams. James Cleveland is talented but that that juxtaposition with them being kind of analyzed mass does not bode well and I was thinking about this. This morning is is that I said I think Baker Mayfield's better than what we've seen this year but not as good as he was last year against Atlanta and Cincinnati twice. But I think the future of Baker Mayfield will never be as good as it could because the general manager John. Dorsey doesn't care about chemistry. He doesn't care about character. And Danny you're in this league for six years with a great organization. The giants there are as you know a handful of organizations. GM's at any one time in this league. They don't own give a rip about character. They WANNA WIN Games. They're low self esteem. Franchises Pittsburgh historically does or giants they do and I watch Baker last night and I thought to myself after the game. Is he apologized. Basically this is who. This is. What Baker's career is going to be nonsense around him? I'm your thoughts on that essentially because I think that's a very interesting. Take that you have and I actually thought Baker Mayfield showed for once. Silence Amateur side of them that I wish he would show more like. We've seen a very immature quarterback in the first year and a half his career whether it's getting Chasing after Hugh Jackson after he's gone and shown kicked to the curb whether it's calling out Duke Johnson earlier this off season. Whether it's getting in tussles with you call. Those things aren't very mature life for a franchise quarterback to do but I do think he stepped up to the plate last night in a very small timeframe there wasn't a lot of time to react. Their fight happens it occurs and boom boom. There's a microphone in front of your face and I thought him taking a strong statement against teammate. Saying man this is not this is not good for the game. It's going to hurt us. He's GonNa get suspended. Yeah I thought that was a very aware mature thing for a quarterback to do but I do think is going to be challenging and that was one of my biggest concerns for this team was gas. Yes you're bringing in some of these personalities like Odell Beckham like Jarvis Landry on the defense side of the ball. Now we're seeing a player like myles Garrett who probably a lot of people just appreciate it for what what an amazing player is but now you're seeing a different side of him and a team that is just. It's a mess and I do think Freddie. Kitchens deserves a lot of the blame somebody. Nobody on that team has to take to step up and be the parents. I mean it's kind of like you have to be the strict parent somebody that's going to stand up and hold this team accountable. I I don't think it has to fall on Baker just yet. I think it falls on on Freddie Kitchens and I do think John Dorsey has to because you are you are one hundred percent right. Talent doesn't always win out the most talented team. There is chemistry. And if you ask any coach around the League whether it's college pro highschool care what level it is. It's yes gimme talented players but I would rather have less talented players. Who are hungrier? Have a better work ethic who are smarter football players. Because that's how you create a team that can go out there and beat teams. That are better than you. which is something we haven't seen the Cleveland? Browns do couple minutes left Danny Canal. I think last night got Freddie. Kitchens fired I think had they lost the game. John Dorsey may come out and be a martyr and say this is nonsense. I think they want him out. I don't think they like the optics because they know they're Cleveland they fire. Everybody meant season but I do think it gives them an out so because we're all GonNa make fun of them if they give. Baker Mayfield is fourth coach in three years. We're GONNA go. What a joke? But it gives them out last night because they can be martyrs. Danny they can say what happened against. Pittsburgh is unacceptable to our fine organization. This we have but they won last night and they're going to let him write it out but I think last night got him fired. I really coaches. Don't get fired much off a win in my nuts here. No I think you might be onto something and I thought you saw Freddie. Kitchens get extremely defensive with the media when they challenged him and they I don't think he takes takes the blame for this incident with myles Garrett but he was very sensitive saying I don't coach penalties. I don't coach offsides coach false starts. He got very defensive there and I thought thought it was interesting that he also kind of snuck in there little bit of a pump up to his own resume saying hey the browns did something we'd never have done before beating the steelers and the Ravens in the same season I do so. Here's the end of the season matters now because I do think the browns could go on a little bit of a run. I've really thought they had a chance to make the playoffs without Myles Garrett. It's clearly going to be a much bigger challenge. Yes yes in. The back end is so easy I mean they play the steelers again who they just beat. They've got the dolphins is in there. They've got the bengals too. Like they have a very winnable manageable schedule the ravens with our toughest opponent who they already beat wants. Now it's on the road and it's later could be more crunch stop but the thing that kind of makes me think maybe he salvages. His job is if they make the unlikeliest to play off runs. And don't forget this team last year gotten to almost a situation situation where they almost got in the schedule sets up. And it's it's I've never seen the NFL like this before. Colin where there is this great disparity in good teams and really bad teams where you can go through the schedule and you can start. Checking off ws because there are some teams. That aren't very competitive right now and for the browns. They're quite a lot of them to finish the season. Danny Kanell great stuff but he had a nice weekend. Love having you on the show Turtleneck on time just for you. Thanks Buddy it's full. I need the TURTLENECK coming up next. I'm an address that I'm going to address this idea this morning. THAT CLEVELAND'S A playoff team. I think their schedule is much tougher. Now Oh and I think they're to blame for that. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays noon eastern nine am Pacific the experience the spectacle the craft the coffee. The new Chicago starbucks reserve row story is the world's biggest starbucks join us on the magnificent mile now in a word it's at back. Oh it is great to have you in blazing five top next hour. I think it's my strongest of the year I feel great about my blazing five. I really do. It's time now to go on a roll. I got very hot at the end of last year. Post thanksgiving I got scorching. Hot Data is wise. Got Get all right. Let me talk about this and so this morning it's funny. I'm sensing this. Ooh I'm here even Danny Canal. Oh Cleveland schedule is easy. And they're GONNA be no no time out. Cleveland schedule's not as easy as you think they play Baltimore. They embarrassed Baltimore. Baltimore's away better team mm-hmm. They're pissed they have a much better offencive identity. They've got a much better coach and a much. Better quarterback Baltimore's beating Cleveland in Cleveland and improbably substantially. They're fighting the Patriots for the number one seed that game's going to mean everything to Baltimore. You don't be John Harbaugh lot twice in the season. Good luck secondly Miami. You Watch Miami Lately Arizona. At Arizona you watched Arizona lately not easy out not not easy out. Miami's plan their arse off and Arizona is too with a great young quarterback who's better than Baker. Then you've got Pittsburgh. Eric noticed they're really in a bad mood. And it'll be at Pittsburgh bad mood. It's not that easy of a schedule. Cincinnati he stinks. Arizona doesn't Baltimore doesn't Miami's I told you this when they were winless. I said they're well coached. You can be winless in well coach. When you're tanking the schedule is not that easy? And now you don't get myles Garrett he's out he's your best defensive player easily. We know you're undisciplined. This is all incredibly predictable so on October. Twenty eight by the way I said before the season I said Cleveland's GONNA get off to a bad start. In fact joy is my witness. I said they're going to get smoked at home by Tennessee in the first game number one. I said that I said this is the one of the best of the year. Take Tennessee and Cleveland Oakland veteran Lima Blah Blah. They want and I said it's GonNa be real choppy. Then they're gonNa Start Facing Cincinnati and backup quarterbacks and they're gonNA win a bunch of games and they're going to finish what I predicted. Eight and eight nine and seven but there's too many teams. The raiders are better than we thought. The colts are better than we thought. And Jacoby percents coming back by the way Jacksonville. Jacksonville is four and five. Cleveland's four and six Jacksonville gets nick. foles back if they win this weekend. They're five hundred okay so this is what I said in October. Two thousand nine. This is all predictable. Bad early schedule weekends. quarterbacks are not as good backup quarterbacks you in a bunch of games Cleveland. Last year comes out there awful than the schedule. Lightens Baker does a bunch of touchdowns against bad teams and all of a sudden all. We heard all off season season. So Burg Bowl like last year. They're gonNA FINISH WITH SOME WS and they're going to be outraged at all of US media and you you that we don't get it. No we do. Get it all stand by my prediction. Cleveland will not make the playoffs but they'll be in the eight nine eight nine seven bobble stage Avoue all over again so there are six spots in the AFC and there's twelve teams fighting for him. Do you know who has the worst record of the remaining Cleveland. Oakland that has to face. Maybe the Best Team Baltimore one of the toughest out Arizona on the road and Pittsburgh who is this morning anybody here Mike Tomlin after the game. Did you hear my Tom. And after the game I mean Mike Tomlin in not going to be allowed to be pushed around in this league. Mike Mike Tomlin just the guy. That doesn't Brag is the guy that intimidates me Mike. Tomlin was asked about what he saw last night. I'll keep my thought lost to myself. You guys saw what happened at the end about it. That's exactly what I said. I got no comment. Have you ever seen anything like that at the end of the game. No more questions regarding that. Because I'm saying nothing. Good luck facing him and by the way he won't be on his third receiver. James Connor will be back. Doodoo Smith Schuster will be back They'll be furious now. Pouncey won't be available. He's going to appeal his suspension. His three Gamer. They'll probably probably knock it down to two. But he'll miss the browns game but myles Garrett will not be in a game myles Garrett great player Looney tunes sometimes but a great player. He's out for the year. It's been announced suspended indefinitely. Mason Rudolph probably get some sort of fine but I think the NFL Danny Canal. And I enjoyed I disagree on this I think the NFL people send messages pitches all the time parents do with their kids. I think the NFL's messages. Do not mess with quarterbacks we will err on the side of protecting him and the NFL by the way this was years and years ago you could take shots at the NFL. Jerry Jones Roger Goodell and said You understand when that guy gets hurt. It ruins are franchises. This league protects quarterbacks practice Games preseason they're sending messages weather can be unpredictable getting Michelin Endurance Silicone wiper blades. Two Times longer than other blades. Walmart's march where you get him. Real World Proven Michelin Endurance. Xt's silicone wiper. 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He was down at his third string receiver and a second back but NFL has suspended myles Garrett Indefinitely He's out for the year out for the playoffs. He's their best defensive player. He's a great player. He's sometimes looney tunes though late. Hit you know Mike. Mason Rudolph You know my defensive him is if you're attacked at a bar You have a right to do whatever you have to do to survive so a big strong myles Garrett hit the quarterback late jumped on top of him and Myles Garrett tried to you. You'RE GONNA fight right there. I don't care what you grab. I'll grab your junk. You whatever it is on the bottom. I'm a guy you're bigger you attack me ongoing after anything. I is car keys. I'm trying to survive. I do think the NFL will probably look at the tape sprinkle around some fines to Mason Rudolph. They'll see a few images they don't like Pounds he's been suspended. Three Games Ames hill appeal. That probably get it down to. But let's not let's not make a Myles Garrett the victim I see this all the time in the American immediate sports and political miles garrets garrets a guy. That's been doing this all year. This is an undisciplined team that came in with a message. Let's make them pay for it. Multiple heads above the shoulders. helmet-to-helmet hits Cleveland. Cleveland should be absolutely grotesquely embarrassed. I'm surprised they didn't come out this morning and levied their own fines and suspensions that would have been classy. But what am I expecting and but the NFL handed up down myles Garrett out for the year a out for the play offs and it's they they haven't made a final proclamation nation or referendum. He's just out of the year and play offs. And we'll figure out the rest of it later. Don't be surprised if he gets suspended for a month next year as well. So that's that's where we start this morning. A lot of both teams were fined. Two hundred and fifty grand blazing five. This is the time of the year you know. NFL teams get to this time of the year and the NFL teams are like okay football matters and I think it's time for us now football matters. Let's get all these right. Blazing five all of our provided by Fox. BET here we go. Let's blaze it off. Its Collins Blazin. Texans said Rave Houston plus four at Baltimore Deshaun Watson in his career career in November. I mean he's always good. It's been as best month. He has four now. Completion percentage mid seventies. And by the way you know how good Russell Wilson and is this year only Russell. Wilson is accounted for more touchdowns than Shawn Watson. Texans offense right now since they elevated their running game. They've got a real offensive line. approachable left tackle and they can run the ball. Houston's top five in total yards rushing yards red zone percentage. It's a number here here. Ominous Houston plus four. It's four and a half in some places we'll just go for. I think the Texans were upset. Not much of an upset really like him. A Lot. twenty-eight twenty-six broncos RONCO said biking. I'm betting a number Denver ten and a half the side here. Listen Minnesota of a big Sunday night when they don't win those games ever. They beat the cowboys. They're going to pull back back. This is GonNa be a low scoring game VIC FANGIO for Denver's one of the better defensive guys in the League. And he knows Mike Zimmer. Well the BRONCOS defense ranks top four in yards passing yards in red zone touchdown percentage which is amazing when you consider how bad their offense has been so their defense often on the field all game. They're four and one his denver against the spread over there last five four the last five opponents Dave held under twenty points. Denver's not a terrible team. You don't like the record Denver. BE CLEVELAND HE DENVER DENVER WITH A backup Cleveland. Denver's a real team. They've lost three games. Expiring clock the Chicago lost was horrible. Officiating this is a very very very competitive game Denver. uglies it up broncos cover now. I'll take the Vikings to win twenty six twenty. But I think it's ugly and choppy and I'll take the points JAT said Redskins. I'll take the jets. Plus Two redskins have the worst offense ever day. Haven't scored a touchdown own in a month. their offense is not only the worst in the NFL their last in scoring. They've scored nine points or fewer in five games. The and now. They're on a rookie quarterback who probably shouldn't be playing the Wayne Haskins and Jay gruden coaches the coach. They fired. Now what's their offense. Because he was keeping afloat their last in virtually everything offensively their own fort home and by the way the jets announced this week Adam cases the coach. What does that mean jet players? They WanNa put good stuff on tape for coach. Adam Gays K.. Adam as in going anywhere so don't think you can unscrew off and get a new coach. Adam gazes coming back watch. The players play hard jets win this football game twenty-seven twenty-three cardinals hard-nosed at forty nine. I Love Take Arizona plus ten anybody else watching these games. Besides people that live in Phoenix. Arizona's a real football team. You do you. Think the raiders of the big shock in the League I duNno Haras Zone is pretty good. I'm getting tans 49ers. Still banged up with some of their receivers on the perimeter. The cardinals were five and bet in the cardinals for weeks. They're five and one against against the spread last six games by the way Arizona's one eight nine meetings. They always played Seattle. Tough Arizona's better than we think. And right now all Jimmy Garoppolo's coming off bad game and a lot of this is he didn't have all these weapons George. Kettles banged up Emmanuel Sanders. The first game they played was not a mirage. Gosh I think it's competitive niners win but the cardinal's cover twenty seven twenty San Francisco. Don't kid yourself in Arizona. They're not going away kind of Murray's really really tough puff to defend. Wait until you get a line of defense. Chief said chargers love the chargers chargers. Getting four here. Do you know the Games. James in Mexico altitude seventy two hundred feet right chargers went to Colorado to train in seven thousand feet Kansas City. Kansas City's not happy with the league. They said No. We're GONNA stay in Kansas City. They're going to be sucking air but the second quarter chargers are like we're not happy we're going to Mexico either but we're going to go to Colorado in the mountains and train remember. What are the chargers? Do they can run the Football Philip rivers for the record He'll drive me crazy in two minute. Drills he makes mistakes rookie would make but I believe the NFL in passing yards. They have excellent weapons. They have a good tight end. They can run the football in Kansas City. Get can't get people off the field and if you look at the most rushing yards allowed this year in the NFL NFL. You Think Cincinnati's bad. They're the only team worse. Kansas City can't stop. The run chargers can run they trained in Colorado. You know you're all telling me Cleveland still a chance for the play offs offs. Well don't they have. What's the record of the chargers Kind of same record and you tell me. The chargers have no shot chargers. Absolutely lutely believe Anthony. Lynn's got to win games here. They're going to win games. Our jobs are on the line with the chargers. And I'm getting over a field goal. I'm going to take the chargers to upset Kansas City. Twenty Twenty eight to twenty seven blazing five all of our odds provided by Fox. At let me let me go to one game in particular Lamar Jackson against the Shawn Watson. I like the tax in this game. I think Lamar Jackson is a great kid. A great story I it this is what's interesting interesting about football. W- we forget this all the time. Lamar Jackson comes into the NFL. He's got a better coach right now. Then to Shawn Watson he's got a better offensive line he's got a better star running back. He may have a better defense. Probably Does Better Secondary Baltimore's a better organization. Structurally with better players. They have better tight ends than Houston. The Mar- Jackson's inheriting a really good roster and a really good organization. and He's been good. He's a coach Portugal Kid. He's working his butt off and they're doing some things schematically that's taken the league a little while to pick up on and they're getting better and better because they draft well to me need to Shawn Watson is Andrew Luck I just cross my fingers. He survives he's Andrew Luck he comes into the NFL impulsive owner badge. Em wrong or a coach. We don't love and a terrible offensive line and Andrew Luck into Shawn Watson Win Eleven Games and win their division. It makes no sense and they can't win games in the playoffs. Because you know. They're not that good. They're saving the franchise to Sean Andrew. Luck hurt had to take a bus last year to a game he really is. He is so uniquely gifted like Andrew Luck. And I've said this before Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers could not not overcome. What does Shawn has the last couple years to Sean Andrew? Luck Lamar's good. But there's a lot of tapper nic with Lamar. He's got harbaugh's Abbasi coach. He's Got Greg Roman as a coordinator. It is a power running team built around him with our feeling that and for the record kapernick big green bay twice his cabinet got to a super bowl. Don't kid yourself. I got fooled by Kaepernick for two years. In this league I would go on the air every day and go. I think that's the future of the NFL so now. I'm a little little reluctant to go with Lamar Jackson that's the future of the NFL. I think the future of the NFL is to Shawn Watson. Great Athlete can make place is a is a wizard. It but eventually sit in the pocket throws the ball good highschool good college good pro good thrower. So when I see the Shawn Watson icy Andrew Luck when I see Lamar I see a little Kapernick nick and in the end I always felt luck as long as he could stay healthy. It's a fifteen year run kapernick. I kind of felt fooled on him. Now I do think Lamar he has a more throws the ball. How would I say this cabinet had a huge arm but the joke was everything was a fastball? Had No touch screen pass throw it through a battleship battleship. where I think Lamar's got better touch? I think he's very comfortable. I think he's got some leadership stuff. Kapernick doesn't but I like Houston in this game and I said this yesterday Deshaun Watson. Here's another reason. He's Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck came into this league and because he had the neck beard and he had a book club and he didn't have personnel and talk all these other young quarterbacks order bax. Rg Three we fell in love with. And I'm like Andrew Goodwin to Shawn Watson comes into this league he Mitch Trubisky in the same conference gets drafted over him. His coach starts arts. Tom Savage over him than Patrick. mahomes comes in and we talked about him more and now just about the time. We want to put her arms around the Shawn Watson. Man You are so good yes. Lamar Jackson guys unbelievable. Label like luck into Schon. Can we just put her arms around him. They're doing what I don't think other people can do. I don't think anybody else in my lifetime. Maybe maybe Russell Wilson Andrew Luck into Shawn Watson Ron Houston didn't have GM India the wrong one coach. We don't love battle line no running game and you look up their win in their division Asian. Tom Brady can't do that. Alligator Rodgers can do that. So I like the Sean this weekend I like Houston. I think they're real good and I'll tell you this. We all banged on this organization when they went and got Laremy Tunsil and gave up too many picks that old line now left side surreal. Oh Line they've quietly. They have a real running game. So to Sean. Now's got a left tackle and reel. NFL running backs. I know we all have Baltimore in the Super Bowl. I strongly consider Houston. I'd strongly considered to me this morning. You Know Patriots Houston. I totally buy that. I think we're a little little high now on Baltimore and we've forgotten Houston into Shawn Watson in by the way it's not that I don't like Lamar I do. But they're doing some stuff schematically Greg Cosell talked about it yesterday by the League is trying to figure out Baltimore like everybody's figured out New England. They can't stop them. You can figure out Aaron Rodgers in Mahomes. You can't stop them. Baltimore's Baltimore's doing some stuff schematically which is new and people are trying to figure it out. Here's Greg Cosell. It's very low risk but extremely hard got to defend. They play with multiple tight ends a lot. So what do defenses do they line up with their base personnel which means they have bigger slower people on the field old and now they run their offense the ravens this multiple run dimension offense that spreads you out horizontally. So I'm curious what defensive coordinators will do going forward. Because they're playing with slow people against a Lamar Jackson. Yeah interesting stuff. Can't wait for that. My favorite game to watch this weekend. I'll take the Texans is to win that game outright. I don't think it's a big upset and I think we're undervaluing Houston right now by the way next hour. A deforest Buckner of the San Francisco. Forty niners. Great Defensive Lineman Emma. What's it like to plan that? Defensive Line People can't double team you. 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You've been in fights. Okay you were feisty so myles Garrett takes his helmet off explain what a football players thinking well first of all you gotta understand you go into a game to a game. It's all about context context about hitting them. Didn't kill him knock him out. You know that. That's the mentality you have a game. That is a very violent game. You have a game that as a divisional Game they don't like each other and you know tried to grab his helmet after the sack pullman off and you know he's really mad because because you know you you just. That's how football is you hyped up and all of a sudden you know. He's short helmet off. And I have to give Dave decastro credit. Uh I don't think anybody's really said much about this. What he did? He's really saved both of them because he tackled miles just kind of held him down like hey man settled down. Don't like like like settled down the only one that he was going to listen to it. That was one of his teammates. Are someone like a David. Castro was like look at him. He's holding like hey just just not adding punching him but you lose your cool I mean you. Do you ever lose your most definitely. I lost my cool before but not like this. I put my helmet often. That's tim strapped caprice strapped. That's your money make gas. That's it because we had to fight with the jets and John Robertson said before the game look it got here there and success sack. Don't you let that silly. Dan's and you got Jackie. Jackie pushed him and the fight was on. I mean both pitches what happens. Jackie stepping the grounds. I'm we're fighting everywhere. It's bites everywhere. I mean you see. We're fighting Lord all my God. Where are you? I met somewhere. I I had a defense back somewhere and then a I can't think of his name to your coach said. Don't let them do that dance. They'll do that okay there. You are two left. Yup when I went on a row. Or there's Vince Ferragamo. Because I was down feel about a DB so when they start grabbed a defensive back was holding him back fighting. I mean it was fine. It's everywhere but you've been at this mayhem mayhem everywhere. See back in those days they show in the fight now they had to cut got away from the fight. I mean because you don't want to have that image of the National Football League Fight Ryan but that's not good. That stuff is gone. Still still about Mason Rudolph. A lot of people want him suspended. I think a quarterback should be protected. Here's the thing I said this if I walked into a bar jumped on you and I was bigger and then an eight seconds. I hit you with a beer bottle in the eight seconds between jumped on you and the beer bottle. You have a right to gouge my eyes. You're defending yourself. I got it's forty five pounds heavier on me. I'm do I'll all grab your stuff I'll do. I'll do whatever I gotta do. So to me Mason Rudolph. I'm going to give you a lot of latitude. If a big Guy Hitch a late penalty jumps on top. You pinging Hingis down. I'm GONNA give you a latitude on that. Well Mason Rudolph started started. I mean look this is again. This is football. This is a rough tough spore. Oh he grabbed Garrett's helmets trying to pull his helmet off. That kind of started it. All that got hit started at all but yeah I mean yes yes it did you write it started off but that would that's what got kicked off but when you can to fight in a football game you not thinking about the Ram. You're not thinking I'm GonNa get suspended. Heard my team you thinking about. I'm fighting I don't care what nobody says. Would nobody does only people that can really get control so you would be your teammates and in this case. It's not even his teammates. Is David Decastro. That held him down and really I think about this could have tried to turn out very tragic. I mean he could hit him in the forehead and killed him hit and killed him without him. That's why the the suspension by the indefinite the NFL's going to you're out for the year. We we may keep you out till next year right like even in the fight we just showed with you guys. I mean just throwing punches. We see fights almost every week was a weapon baseball bat if I if I threw throughout your head and they came after you with a bat like if it's funny baseball you would be so ostracized as a baseball player used a baton a player. I don't think players would ever let you in in football and it happened in baseball. Nothing in the sixties it happened did and that guy was I one mirror shell right but I think that player was so ostracized precisely. I don't remember the repercussions but in football there is violent. So I think I think players will support Myles Garrett eventually but I think it's best to get him out of the League right now. I think he has to sit the whole season. I you know I think it would happen is once he said because miles look miles is not that guy. He's not a a a dirty player. Oh no he's not he's not a dirty players and he's not a dirty player hit panels delay penalties because how the League has changed when I look at some of the pills they call late hits on him. The Guy Stole the ball and they They want the defensive player to stop in his tracks. Stop your momentum. Don't hit don't hit out presses quarterback you know. Hey He's he's on a football field he's gotta get hit sometime. I mean I don't WanNa hear it but you gotta get an I'll I don't like I don't like the calls to protect the quarterback protector. What about the poll running back protect US case in our? Let me ask you about this. So you said John Robinson who I don't know but watch for a years you said Robinson said don't let gas that silly dance go after him. I here's what I said when I watched him as they go after he didn't say go after he just said don't do a silly Dan. How can you knew what that okay? So Freddie Kitchens last night four helmet to helmet hits by Cleveland. It felt real Buddy Ryan to me then the Myles Myles Garrett thing. Do you think Freddie kitchen should be their coach. Well you know that's not my that's not my job because when you watch what do you see I see a team. That's really in disarray very dysfunctional. That's a good word survey. I see that I mean you have to have you have to have discipline. I mean you don't have to do it in a form of like I'm the head. Coaching you the players. You're not to do it like that. You know you have to respect is earned is what it is is earned. It's like it's like discipline is something that you know you you you you work at your earning you know. I want my players to be disciplined. You would never seen anything like this in New England. You just wouldn't see that you see it in L. A. C. The. Let's see what the colts by. They respect their their coach. I mean this is a young coach I mean and so I just feel like they got so many different personalities nowadays on this Cleveland Browns team you got you know you expect so much. Now say this much if the Cleveland browns right now where eighty one and even this would have happened. This this would've happened. They wouldn't be talking freight occasions job at all. It wasn't even a Oh. I think this got him fired. I don't want him there and Eric. This is an easy out. Cleveland Cleveland at the end of the year can say we were so embarrassed by this. It was so not us we believe we. I think they can be a martyr once. Click Cleveland you you know you know. Cleveland doesn't want him there. You know John. Dorsey knows he doesn't want him there. I think well I think this signals the end win or lose okay. Let's move to this okay. You have a relationship with the Los Angeles Rams a lot of finger pointing at Jared Goff. Does he deserve it some of it. Yes he does. I mean right now he has. He has fourteen turnovers he has Nanna and stuff. You can't turn the ball before nine games if you you have to take some of. I mean it's no different from myself. I'll go back to the game. I played against the Washington redskins and the play I had three turnovers and in a playoff op. Like I lost that game. That would I put it on me but you have to take some of it but you had to put someone to head coach to. Sean McVeigh. Because look we know that our office of line is beat up our offensive line is now what it is but you have to put your quarterback in a position to succeed exceed and you have to run the football. We don't run the football. I'm sorry we just don't I mean we are running football. I feel for Todd Gurley. I'm frustrated for him because I know he wants to run the ball. You don't see Zeke splitting time. You don't see McCaffrey splitting time you. You don't see Saquon Barkley spending time as a running back you have to get into a rhythm. It's all about a ribbon you got you cared about twelve times six times eighteen eighteen. You can't get into a rhythm doing that people's House not the same if you cared about twelve times what you won't want to rip off a sixty yard on every orsay do you like twenty five twenty five occurs. I guess I'm I'm into it now. I'm into and I can take it. I mean that's what you want. I think todd like the Bali's twenty this. He rushed the ball random ball twenty times and called a five or six passes. That's that's he's in a rhythm all of a sudden you are the game you back in the game. Maybe six six series laid the four series later. How do you get into a rhythm? You can't get into a rhythm I say some of this has to come Sean. McVeigh I mean you have to find a way to get your best player. which is todd girly into the game? Even though it opposite line is beat up you have to be committed to the run. It's come it's a commitment San Francisco. They're committed to the run Seattle committed to the run last night. The Cleveland browns are committed to run the football. We have no commitment to the run. We are a passing football team and Nokia. Okay call like I see it. You have to put some of this hour head coach Sean. mcvay an office of line is beat. Up is not the same but you. If you give you the head coach you have to come up with a with a way to help our quarterback out I mean he is what he is and we know that I mean. He's he's not that guy he's Matt Ryan. He's not deschamps exactly. He's not a guy that's going to run the parking or run to the he's not he's a guy that can he make a move right to left a little bit but you can ask them to run fifteen or twenty yards three or four times. That's not going to happen Eric. Dickerson the hall of Famer that fight video is spectacular by you. I don't condone violence but Love to see you mix it up a little bit card stop by the way. Feel better with them drive. I'm Dr From N.. Dot Com code her twenty percent of your first month. Joy Taylor with the news you heard on the news. This is the third line news. So Patrick Mahomes only missed two games after dislocating his kneecap but despite losing the first game back he had a great performance and he says he feels as good as he did in week. One physically going into the Jacksonville game. just being able to not have to worry about ankle or not have to worry about The knee any and just being able to go out there and play football the way that the way that I played in my whole career fourth. Well that's great news but the one question about the chiefs or questions about the chiefs. Do not involve Patrick Mahomes and his health. Obviously Tennessee thirty six fifty. Four hundred forty six yards three touchdowns with a one thousand nine point three passer rating so he had a game a great game and they still couldn't get it together so the question was the chiefs is not Patrick. Mahomes he clearly is. I mean he's saying he feels healthy which is great but they've got they've got other issues you've got to stop the run otherwise he's never on the field there they just don't and the chargers run the ball the chiefs rushing rushing lar- yards allowed per game of a hundred and forty eight point one. That's second most in the NFL. That in passing league people run for one hundred fifty every Sunday well. The chargers ranked twenty six inrushing. There were. They're not good at their backs for good and their nineteenth and the NFL and martial arts rushing yards allowed per game so this game is really going to come down to a WHO doesn't get worn born out because of the elevations 'cause they're playing in Mexico City with elevation seven thousand three hundred eighty two feet. Now you said the chargers practice all week in Colorado Colorado with elevation six thousand eight hundred feet so there they may have an advantage there but so other than who's going to run out of steam I it's GonNa come down to. Who's going to get the Russian game going because we know the chargers can week to week have a great game? Yeah go out there and do we know the Patrick mahomes play at the highest level. So those two things we know our our sad. It's GONNA come down to the Russian game and who doesn't who doesn't get into trouble with the allegation but this is a huge game. It's by the way if you think. Cleveland has a playoff shot. One it you think Charles Duke because I got the same record and they got better players I mean if I am yes exactly leaning towards the chargers there because i. It's the chargers and I just can't do it. The both the same situation and the chiefs really need this win as as well so it will be easy for the raiders overlook. The winless bengals this Sunday but knows he has to keep his team motivated if they want to avoid the upset so he said we've got a lot of respect for the Bengals as the national football league. I don't really care about anybody's record. You've just got to remind some of the young people that you can't believe everything you read. If you don respect you know Atkins and Carlos Dunlap. You don't think we'll Jackson Joe mixing a great players and you'd better get some film and look at it a really good point. I do think that bengals are going to sneak. Someone isn't this. Isn't this funny joy. We're talking about the raiders overlooking teams. Now raiders better not be confident and but they are. They've got real weapons that's the that's the truth and and Gruden is right because this is the dolphins are word obvious Team to pick for an upset win they you can tell just by the way that they play. You got to just ignore Cincinnati's bad. They're bad backup quarterback. They're they're they're going to get the number one pick and take two they are but it's still the NFL and in week to week. If you come in with the attitude that it's just the Gimme. Then that's what can happen in. The raiders. Need to not do that this week. I don't have any concern about them. Winning the game but but to keep the motivation levels up right like this is this is actually quite a turn. That the raiders have to stay motivated At the beginning season as looking like it was going to be a disaster so finally Vialli before being traded to the Lakers. Anthony Davis was open to the idea of going to the Knicks. But the Knicks Office didn't think they needed the six time all star Knicks. ex-presidents Steve Mills and Scott. Perry reportedly turned off by the Pelicans high asking price strengthening Davis they were looking for multiple first round draft picks and young players in return. They they also felt that adding Davis would undercut their long-term plan of building through the draft in developing young stars. Stop building through the draft. She's when did the warriors get unbeatable. They got Durant Oriental League. What's Lebron recruiting his whole life guys already in the league? Kevin Love D.. Wade stop with a draft. Not Phoenix has been building through the draft forever. Never give me a break and this is the first year in a very long time. We have a conversation about the being competitive Toronto. Last year. CEO comes through the draft. But it it was lowered in start there and Zeldin start their new Bach. It and start there and Danny Green didn't start start there. It's like come on get players and then you know I'm not saying you don't have a draft pick develop but that this leagues a man's league twenty one year old guys aren't doing anything. It's a mixture of all of it right. And you and you WanNa make sure that you have a high level talent strong veteran there. If that's your plan to build through the draft and really if you're a knick fan why would you have faith in the organization is going to be able to do that anyway. The three and nine this season season. Well we're starting lineup. Is Taj Gibson. Julius randle Marcus Morris. Rj Barrett's send great. This season. He is he's shown that he is worthy of that pick. Nick and I do think he's going to develop into as a great player but I mean we thought the PELICANS would be really interesting because they had Lonzo who's young and Ingram suits young and a look with the Pelicans Lonzo's been injured and Zion is out obviously. I don't WanNA react too much to the Pelicans yet. Because they don't have their entire team healthy and together. They are very young. But I'm going to give the Pelicans more time the Knicks. Are you know this is just not the story. You WanNa hear good stuff joy with the news. Well that's the news news. Thanks for stopping by myles. Garrett suspended Cleveland Helmet thrower indefinitely out for the play offs regular season by the way. I don't think in Cleveland Schedules as easy as you think. Baltimore's a better team with a better quarterback Arizona on the road is not an easy out Pittsburgh now will host them no L. Myles Garrett. They are fired up and I also think Miami. Although it's Miami is a tough tough out I don't think Cleveland or Pittsburgh are playoff playoff teams myles Garrett Best Brown player out for the year even when Cleveland Wins Lose. That's coming up. Jason Mcintyre if you've never seen the segments one of my favorite tomorrow's headlines today be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific. Hey it's doug from golic show join me. Every day is give my unique and strong opinions from the wide world of sports. 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I want these guys heard wants to great players but I WANNA watch Tom Brady please fifty. I WANNA watch Jimmy Garoppolo play forever. All these guys hurt so this is bad optics imaging. They're going to scour this tape. I do think Mason. Rudolph the quarterback will be fine. But I think the NFL sending a message. Don't mess with our quarterbacks. Do I mean look at San Francisco. Last year Jimmy Garoppolo's hurt one team Garoppolos back. What does he sixteen three as a starter? That doesn't mean other players don't have value but this league is so much about out. quarterbacks in the League is telling you you attack a quarterback you're out indefinitely quarterback. Here's a little. Here's a little fine and I want to segue eight to one of the great young players in the NFL. One of these guys. We hope place for a long time. They're a great story. They just came off one of the crazy. I'm from the Pacific northwest. I Love Russell Wilson and I've been watching them. Do this for five. Years is one of the craziest games I've ever seen our global satellite network. DEFOREST buckner is joining us from the forty niners pro bowl defensive tackle a first of all thank you very much. The best look at Hoodie in the league. Right there the San Francisco Forty niners. You're watching I imagine you saw some of the highlights of myles Garrett where you shot not like the football is a violent game but were you shocked. Yeah I was definitely shocked I wasn't watching the game early on and you know those does getting towards the fourth quarter. I turn it off but a saw the videos after I mean I was pretty shocked when he you know his reaction at how he handled all that you know deforest. It's a violent game. It's tough defensive. Lineman like yourself it is a really hard position you are in hand combat for three hours and I get it. I mean it's a wide receiver. You can't touch him a quarterback you can't touch him. You guys are in a wrestling match for four hours. Is it easier not to say what Myles Garrett did it is acceptable but have you lost your temper. Is it sometimes hard to stay under. Control it definitely. I mean I'm definitely lost my temper my rookie year. got a personal foul and I learn from it you just in this game you can let your emotions get the best of you in I mean that's unfortunate fortunate. What what happened with Myles Garrett and you know he let his emotions get the best of them and yes all the result? What do you do how did you do it? Why don't why did it happen to you anymore? How did you change? I mean just the just about your professional You know I want you know it was out of character by me and it hurts. It's me hurts my team especially and I mean you saw the results. He's suspended indefinitely. That definitely hurts his team. He's the he's their best player and supposed to be one of the leaders on the team. And that's not how you WanNa leave your guys by the way you are one of the leaders of the forty niners. It's an interesting team where it's not just the quarterback but Jimmy g's he's obviously very good you face Arizona this week tyler. Murray you just face Russell. Wilson you the League's changing Lamar Jackson. A Shawn on Watson as a defensive tackle. I would imagine you lose sleep when you've got to face a Russell. Wilson cuyler Morita. Does it change how you have to prepare. Play that week now definitely A unit upfront when rushing the passer. You guys got to work together and especially with mobile quarterbacks like Like you just name Colin. Murray the Russel's even Aaron Rodgers You know you have the know where you are and rushing. You can't get behind your rush or or any of that because they can find those you know those lanes that opened up and extend place. Yeah I mean you you you have face Russell before and now it's Kinda Murray when you look at tape of Cuyler Murray who you'll face this week. Does it look like Russell Wilson. Are you watching a slightly shorter version. Pretty much I mean you know obviously Russia's under a long time and this is this young kid coming in and He does definitely shows glimpses of like you know like Russell Wilson type moves and spinning out of the pocket and extending place but his arm. I mean kid has a cannon We face them on Thursday night football two weeks ago and he showed us what he could do and you know as a as a defense in unit you know. It wasn't our best game and we're definitely looking forward to this. Nick Bosa comes in in college guy shows up and he is Great Day One. Go back to win nick. Bosa showed up. Where were you shocked by? How good he was? Did you know instantly instantly. Could you spotted at practice was the moment you're like okay dude Compla- now just watching you know watching some film on him looking at some Ohio state tape and everything you know as a draft process was going on and I was I heard well. He's one of the guys we're looking for and That was the guy I wanted. You know from the start the come in help us up front and just seeing him throw. Ta's I mean training camp. Ah The way he was moving You know you could tell it was rusty at first because you know what he's hasn't played in what a year year and a half football and as soon as he got back rolling It's crazy what he can do. Sky's the limit with him. He's going to. He's definitely will be a great one for a long time. Kyle Shanahan's known as an offensive guru. A genius is Shanahan. Ever show up in the defensive meetings or is it pretty much you guys. You got your defensive coordinator the guy on the sidelines with a high energy energy. Who's who looks like he's crazy or does Shanahan duck into the defensive meeting sometimes or is it you guys are on your own now? We're on our own. But he does he addresses the whole team and our team meetings. And you know you can kind of see. He's The you know picking apart certain plays and you know showing us you know. The different looks on the different defenses. That are shown to him. And you know against our offense and things like that and it's pretty cool to hear him talk and you know Kinda show everybody. Whoa what's going on in his mind when you guys were undefeated? It's a weird because most teams are not undefeated to mid November in the NFL. And you've been in close games the minute you lose to Seattle. was there a okay. We're not going sixteen to know here. What was the locker room like after losing your first game? No Yeah it was it was quite it was a tough one You know the guys fought to the very last second. You know the goal that they made and I'll just very personally. I was just very proud of the entire team. He battled throughout the whole the whole game. There was often downs guy saw it. It was a very tight game division game breath and just we all we all learned from it. We came in the next day we watched the film as a team and You know just the little things that one one or two plays that we you know each and every one of us could have made To to to change the result it is is what it is. And you know the guys learn from it and we're just ready to re pumped up and ready to move on finally deforest buckner forty niner pro bowl defensive tackle. What's interesting? Urban Meyer is a friend of mine. He says this he goes. I like my football players to play other sports. You were a great high school basketball player. Were you not what do you like. The gator. You're the Hawaii Basketball Gatorade player of the year so there was a moment in your life that you could have chosen basketball. Why choose football practice is harder? You play outdoors. You get hurt. Why football over basketball? I just love it. I mean it's the it's the greatest team sport. There is no honestly growing up. I had a lot of family members that played it. Autumn played it. And just I mean it's in my blood man. What could a basket state is? The biggest sport in Hawaii yet is by far away the biggest sport and why what kind of basketball ask player where you do. You have a little by little. Anthony Davis what was your game like. Nah Nah Nah. I was more like a what I would say. Kevin Garnett okay tall shoot a little bit. Okay deforest Buckner San Francisco. Forty niners appreciate you stopping by the show. I appreciate you calling. Yeah Bosa Him Solomon Thomas Armstead. That is an Robert Solid. Defensive Coordinator is Bald Guy. WHO's like two thousand miles an hour? Yeah he's he has he has a hold me back doc I he has his own. What's that Homie back guy? Yeah hold me get back out yeah. He's a little tightly wound. But that's okay. I think he brings a lot. He's fun to watch I. Actually it's like I mean obviously I know that's not my brother but I've caught myself on several occasions like what is it. What does Jesus do it? But he looked so much like my brother. We're like a quick flash. I don't know if basement appreciate create that but like he does though handsome guy no question about it good stuff today. TD hirschman data's coming up around the corner The AFC north. Just I got very interesting. I think last night showed us one thing. Cleveland and Pittsburgh aren't very good and this is Baltimore's division that was my takeaway on last night. I don't think Cleveland Playoff playoff team. Pittsburgh is although I have unbelievable. Respect for the Pittsburgh steelers. I think there's a massive limitation at quarterback. Now they've got receivers. Banged ended up November's the time of the year in football. Where you you know you can say check teams out rams last week? Can't block out bears. There's two weeks ago couldn't get the first down in the first half they had one against Philli. Check your out I think. Cleveland is two dysfunctional. I think their schedules tough. They won't have myles Garrett their undisciplined. And I think they're over their skis at head coach And I think Pittsburgh's got a quarterback issue a wide receiver running back banged up issue. Thinks season's over for both teams and I think more than ever I mean at Baltimore wins this weekend. We we know what's Baltimore's division. That's not up for debate. It's Baltimore is GonNa win the division. The question is steelers dealers browns. Can they scrape it get over Buffalo. Don't kid yourself the record this morning. For Cleveland is four and six. It's not six and four of the twelve teams vying for the playoffs and the AFC Cleveland's got the worst record. So let's talk the plate. Maybe the Best Team Baltimore and I think Miami and Zona are tough out. And they're going back to Pittsburgh without Myles Garrett be shorter catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP congrats. The two hundred eighty one winners. Who Split the Thursday night football super six Jackpot yesterday time talk Super Six? NFL Sunday cardinals. Forty niners matchups this week calling help us when some money this weekend give us a winner in the final sklar Niners Win Arizona covers twenty seven twenty. No browns are lucky. If you watch that myles Garrett play watched four hundred times you know. There was not a penalty initially initially on that hit. The should've been yes. I mean they're lucky. I mean Cleveland is it was a late hit jumps on top of him throws the helmet. I mean it just ESTA. Undisciplined mess of franchise just a complete utter mass one hundred and twenty yards thinking about that. Cleveland dominated the game last night like dominated the game. You needed a fourth interception with Mason Rudolph quarterbacking to go at home. Okay it's ours. You think you're going to beat Baltimore. The Era Zona Pittsburgh I. They're they're they are so but again. Cleveland doesn't get the best of anything. The best people. Don't want to work in Cleveland. They don't WanNa work for the BROWNS and you don't get the best scouts. You don't get the best coordinators. It's not the best staff the best people in the NBA. Let's be honest. Don't WanNa work for the cavs. They don't WanNa work for the BROWNS. Minute what did you think it's a coincidence that the Indians browns you know cavaliers. If you take Lebron James Out of the city of Cleveland. They're mostly bad the last twenty years. It's an old world economy. It's not a place players WANNA go. It's kind of a Saint Louis. It's kind of a Hartford. It's kind of a Cleveland. It's an old world economy but I mean it's just it's I. It's so hard to watch such a mass. Just again this is this is something I don't think people in Cleveland or stand. If if the rams called you could get the best regional scout in the country in L. A. Because Stan Kroenke the richest owner people wanna live in Los Angeles if the Patriots Patriots called if the steelers called there are organizations in the NFL that if they call you you pick the phone up and go. Oh Arthur blank You know you look at the Benson family family. Mickey loomis Sean Payton. And they called you and said regional scouting director for the saints. You'd be like Sean Payton Gale Benson. I get Mickey Loomis. You know it's just like anybody else. It's like the best Tom. Hanks gets the best scripts the ninety nine percent of actors. Don't get the best scripts that garbage. They one one episode bit things on TV shows. That don't last. The reality is Cleveland. You'll never get the best people you'll never get the best scouts you'll never get the they don't WanNa work for you. That that thing last night is just a it's Cleveland. The fans were cheering as I. I don't blame Fanta fans. I mean they they are what they are but you you. Just keep running through these coaches. YOU'RE GONNA in Cleveland Calls. They call agents because coaches are all represented by agents. That's the way it works in the NFL. So all the best coaches in the NFL have the best agents right. That's that's like nick. Saban's got Jimmy Sexton Urban Meyer probably had like a Jimmy sexton like there's three or four agents in the NFL when they call all you ask. WOULD YOU GO TO CLEVELAND. The top people not not not interested. So that's what you get you get bad. Coaching bad coordinators bad assistance a mess but that myles Garrett hit on Mason Rudolph that should have been a penalty too. I think they just didn't call it because it was five seconds left like it was it was it's borderline. I feel like it was a penalty but I think they just didn't. They didn't throw flag because the game was essentially over. You know it's funny. Because Cleveland won the game and I think there are some people that think okay. This is a high point for Cleveland. But just think about this if just think about the. AFC The two best quarterbacks to best young quarterbacks in the NFL or arguably Shawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes. I'm not even mentioning Lamar Jackson in your own division. Lamar's getting better and big bands coming back in your own division and two is going to Cincinnati and then you have to Shawn Watson Patrick Mahomes New England. Brady's not gonNA retire. Oakland looks legit. indie Jacoby percent comes back. I mean it's like this we have just uh-huh Cleveland's at a high point everybody Lamar's getting better to Shawn's getting better mahomes getting healthy. Brady's going nowhere big bend coming back to is going to end up in your division. visit the the quarterback next year are going to be Big Ben. Lamar Jackson too and Baker. Mayfield this next five game stretch. That may be your Mardi gras that maybe as good as it gets. Because I don't see next year I mean. Let's ask us joy if I ask you this morning. K Big Ben Returns next year WHO's favored in the AFC North Baltimore. Yeah about tomorrow. Who will be picked second steelers so this this year? This was the year the witness was opportunity. pigpens out Big Ben's back and Lamar's better into Shawn's better Patrick's healthy and Brady Belgium great and the Raider Thing Derek. Cars good and Dan to is going to go on your division and it's not dramatic. The browns are just going to go back to being exactly what the browns are all the time irrelevant and not even as much fun as Cincinnati to is going to be fun joy with the news heard on the news. This is the headline news. Well well the. NFL still dealing with the fallout from myles Garrett subjection for hitting Mason Rudolph with his own helmets the league announced that Garrett has been suspended indefinitely and Garrett released this statement this morning regarding his actions he said last night I made a terrible mistake. I lost my cool and what I did was selfish and unacceptable. I know we are all responsible for our actions. It can only prove my true character through my actions moving forward. I want to apologize to Mason. Rudolph my teammates our entire organization our fans into the NFL. I know I have have to be accountable for what happened. Learned from mistake and I fully intend to do so now. There are reports that Mason Rudolph were reportedly also receive a fine. The amount is still to be determined both teams James Refined hundred fifty thousand dollars. Every time I watch it. It's worse. It's really embarrassing. Swing a helmet at a guy without a helmet. Well no one. Because we've never seen this before really I mean that's the reaction that everyone had markings. Penalties also suspended five games in or I'm sorry three games and fined. He's appealing it. I think it will. I'm with you. I think it'll go down to to you. here's a thing about myles Garrett. I think obviously we know the myles Garrett is talented. He's the best player on their team. He was fined in week. One for punching delanie Walker. He was fined for two separate late. Hits on Trevor Simian One on the second hand he broke his leg if you remember. They had eight penalties last night for one hundred and twenty yards tied for fifth. The most in a game this season the most was week one by the way that the penalty not call to a twenty nine penalties for one hundred thirty forty yard right that that was a penalty for eighteen. They add in week one eighteen penalties and we go on with the most that they had. This team is just completely undisciplined. But this this is not like to say that this is extremely out of character for myles Garrett not on whatever you think of miles gear. That's fine but it's not. It's a stretch to say it's out of character. That's I think the way that that the NFL Homs all this down. It can't be an indefinite suspension. The unions GonNa push back on that. You can't be an indefinite suspension. They're going they're just saying that the calm everyone down. They're going to come come up with a number of games. He's gonNA appeal it but he's gone for the rest of the season. I think we can all safely assume that unprecedented that said I do think that Mason Rudolph should probably get a game because the reactions nations who him starting the fight with whether whether I think that the hit was a late hit and Mason Rudolph was reacting to clearly mason. Rudolph was frustrated because he had a terrible game and they were losing. That's not an excuse to start a fight but we see fights every single week all the time they don't ask relate to this level so there's no excuse for myles. Garrett did no matter if Mason Rudolph started or a Rian engaged afterwards after they got up regardless it doesn't matter there's no excuse for what Myles Garrett did I do think Mason Rudolph should probably get a game because that will calm everyone down. Everyone's GonNa get fines pounds. He's going to get two games. They're gonNA walk the NFL's GonNa Watch this tape. So this is never remember the malice in the palace. Yes so they went and looked at the tape over and over the funny thing about not funny the amazing thing about malice in the palace the stories that came out within two weeks how how many of the fans involved in that like had criminal records like everybody everybody I remember I remember defending players saying I'm in an arena. People throwing things zapped me fans are taking swimming. I have a right to protect myself. I don't even like to compare those two things because I I'm with you. If someone anytime that a fan engages is with the player you want that smoke like you think you do you. Don't actually but like that's that's a different set of rules like you're now outside the game. This is something that happened on on the field. That's what I'm saying. It's not assault but this could have ended tragically like for all the talk about who started and who's responsible in fines and all that you can't have this. You just can't like it's not. It's not a salt. It's not something that the police are going to prosecute or none of that. Just forget all that you can't do that and and to say that this is not a AH character it it it is. You can't lose your composure. Like that and hit someone with a helmet. That's it I never understand. Why do you punk someone with the helmet on? Do you think you're going to cause swinging baseball back hitting again the head or helmet hitting a guy on the head here. You're not all there. It's a very a highly emotional game tyler. Silence Game I. It's not like we're sitting here in front of microphones and all of a sudden I get up and throw the table at you. Like there's heightened emotions energy and testosterone. But it's still not usable. Oh Yeah I mean. There's heightened emotions for all players. Don't hit people to every week stuff games. Nobody wants a helmet off and hit someone with it so the cowboys are five and four tied atop the NFC. East's stay lost. Four of their last. Six Games obviously need to step it up but doc is still confident in his team. No concern. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA flip when we get in flipping in this team. These players the character of these men. There's no doubt that is going to go the right way you go look at it. We're playing better right which we just hadn't won those games so I mean we're we're continuing to get better. You don't WanNa peak too early and this is confident that we're going to peak at the right time We've got all the faith and trust that that we're going to get there. We're going to be accountable and doing that. In a hand of the things we need to. They also healthy and Detroit's not and this league. A lot of this league is attrition. Dallas is healthy and Detroit's not so they're gonNa win this weekend. I probably would have given it to The cowboys either way. But I don't really have a concern about the cowboys winning their division and my concerns about how the cowboys are going to perform in the playoffs playoffs which worries me. Because they have no offense of identity they don't and it's been Zeke. Their offensive identity has been Zeke. And that's not that's not rolling this year so they have to figure that out before the the season finally Carmelo Anthony getting another chance in the NBA. He will reportedly signed with the Portland. Trailblazers non-guaranteed deal. He'll join the team for their upcoming six game road trip. Which starts tomorrow in San Antonio Blazers are thirteenth in the Western Conference right now the foreign eight records a really disappointing? Start for the blazers this year. So they WANNA try and get that turned around mellow last night with the rockets. Obviously he played ten games. It was cut November fifteenth. Two thousand eighteen next six games or all as I said away. Spurs rockets gets Pelicans. Bucks cavs and Bulls. They face the Knicks at home on December tenth. So if they're within that'll be interesting to watch one of the criticisms. I had for years with capper Nick but when he didn't play was rush put video out mellow to no end. He's always sending video out so there's no mystery every time mellow mellow is like. I'm practicing. I'm playing saying you're telling me I'm in shape ready to go and I think Portland that's a real big thing when you're out of leagues like black near days like I went down to London. And I told the raiders. I WANNA work out. You gotTa keep telling teams in this league. I'm working out and I'm ready to play in Mexico for the last year. He sends these videos out. It's kind of funny 'cause like you see these workout videos online. You're like what does that mean really. You know what I mean like. How adequate some videos out like mellows wouldn't videos out? We see that like if you didn't if you didn't instagram your lunch. You didn't really eat. You know what I mean so there is that mentality now like you WanNa see what people are doing. That's that's your brand has been in the Jazz Brian. I working out. It doesn't matter what you think the video you gotTa tell me. I'm in this matters. I'm working out. These executives are busy. They have to be reminded constantly. Only hey I'm Dez Bryant. I've worked out twice today. Here's my video. I just hope he. He ends the season on a team. Because I I WANNA see Carmelo go out in a respectable way like the the the narrative on Melo is outrageous. and He. He's a he's been a great player and he didn't deserve what was happening so I'm glad he's back on the same joy with news. Well that's the news and thanks understanding coming up. TJ Hirschman Zodda former Cincinnati bengals. He's been in this division. He knows the intensity of Pittsburgh and in Cleveland and Baltimore in Cincinnati. He's been a raven he's been a Bengal he's going to break down he saw last night. And just take us inside to this division which has always been in one of the I mean. Let's let's be honest it's been cheap. It's at times been violent. It's been a little petty and I think we've reached a new level after last night's mess one more or heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like crazy roese stuff Minnesota and Iowa this weekend. I like Iowa for the upset brought to you by discover at miles car. Limitations apply discover dot com slash travel they w miles first-year Tj Ashman Zodda played for over a decade and the NFL. Made a pro bowl. You played in this division with Baltimore in Cincinnati. Let's start with this football's incredibly emotional game. I get it. This isn't the first time I've seen a fight. You and I were joking. Richie Incognito got into one of these got his helmet ripped off years ago in a preseason game again Tonio Smith and there was a three the game suspension for that so Antonio took a swing richie incognito without a helmet on in for a preseason game and didn't landed. He didn't hit and they suspended him three game. So we've seen this before but it it is. Did you ever get into one of these. Listen I don't want to be one of these guys that said you know. This is not Gulf this. This is not volleyball. This is an intense. You're in fury and basically wrestling matches for four hours. Did you ever get stuff like this. Nothing like this a AH emotional person. Anybody that knows me knows as the case I get very emotional and when you play football you're allowed to kind of take that Eddie motion out to a certain degree and so we play Baltimore Ravens. One time was at Baltimore wasn't like this but it was somewhat fourth-down ball came to me. I thought I got pass interference. They didn't call it. I took my helmet off as I was walking to the sideline and I throw it out the refs feet. All my stuff flew out my helmet. GotTa fifteen are penalty did not get fined and not get suspended but that ended up hurting us because we stopped him and got the ball back and we missed a fifty are fill in. That would have won the game and and for me. It was a lesson learned because I thought the game was over. They're going to get the ball. Run the clock out. We stopped them and we missed a fifty yard field goal. If I don't get that penalty who who knows how the game turns out. Listen a lot of people are defending a myles. Garrett saying Mason Rudolph started it but you have a big player that grabs a quarterback he wrestles him to the ground. He's on top of them and Mason Rudolph thinking dude. Come on get off me. You know you're not supposed to land in a player anymore so mason starts grabbing happen and my takeaway is if you came up to me in a bar jumped on top forty pounds heavier. I'll grab my car keys and Gouge rise on. I'll do what I gotta do this. But you think this poor using this quarterbacks getting away with it one hundred percent now you say. He slammed him to the ground. He did not he kinda laid him on the ground. And if you go back and watch that grabbing in Rudolph was on on top of myles Garrett when they initially hit the ground myles Garrett wasn't on top of Mason Rudolph Mason Rudolph was on top. In what I believe said Myles Garrett off was Mason Rudolph trying to pull his helmet off. That's why he pulled off Mason Rudolph Helmet now. Everything after that is ridiculous. It's inexcusable. Any other adjective can come up with. He shouldn't have done it but emotions are high when she watched that again. That's not this is why this should have been a penalty. You're not allowed when you don't when the quarterback doesn't have the ball I cannot grant you know if he realized that Mason didn't have the ball probably myles Garrett Trinity's amount of penalties. I'm GonNa say he knew he'd have have the ball. Watch this again. We show you. You're not allowed to do this. You're not allowed to grab quarterback and you can't do that in this twenty. Nineteen that's not allowed. He jammed him in that. I don't think he jammed him. If you watch that myles Garrett back hit the ground before Mason Rudolph did I think they didn't even call Penn elite because the fight started and they were too caught up in. I don't think he was going to call a penalty. It's five seconds left in the game. The game is it's over I I don't he's lucky myles Garrett should be Frayne. He didn't hit him with the crown of the helmet. Because you don't know how that would have turned to five pounds. I will say this Mason Rudolph you started worded it. Don't start the fight and then when I say fan back May Mason Rudolph. Yeah No. I wouldn't suspend them if he's fine. He started the fight but miles. How's Gary just went above and beyond? He shouldn't have done what he did. But don't start a fight with me and then play the victim and act like you didn't have any part in this if you don't try to yank his helmet off. There's no incident. There's no incident. Yeah but if you try if I was on top you and I try you. Try to Yank my helmet off. I wouldn't grab your face mask and pull your helmet off and beat you with it and Myles Garrett is a different this coming from the same guy that got punched by a fan and put it also he so wishes he's he's he's an odd dude he got myles Garrett by the way this story came out a month ago remember. That story came out so weird he got punched by Fan went to twitter and talked about being punched by and didn't punch the fan back. I owed mannered I. I thought of football he also is joy pointed out ten minutes ago myles Garrett had had a half a dozen of these I thought he was the most penalized defensive Lineman for the first six or seven we've added you're right when you said earlier. It does not surprise me that he took him him to the ground because he is penalized a lot. But Freddie Kitchens that'd be nipping this in right now put into it would you. Can I make the argument. GimMe you wouldn't do this if you respected your coach. It has nothing to do with respect for. The coach has something to do with respect for everybody within the organization nation. Your teammates dumb penalties. Just so many different things is i. Don't tell my guys how to act. Every Marvin Lewis was a player coach. But but he'd be hard on you like he's not letting you come out on the field if he knows you shouldn't be wearing certain things take that off. You're not even getting out there. He position coach. And they're gonNA come. Tell us. Take that off kids. Let's Ob Jay do what he wants in. That's the problem. The guys know they can get away with and I get it Freddie Kitchens. You WanNa be a player coach but when you see things like there's going to you the most penalized team in the league. You have to make an example of one of your best players and you probably don't WanNa do that because you wanna beat our friend but if you make an example ah one of your best players everybody else falls in line. What about this? I said Baker Mayfield's not as good as he was at the end of last year. He's not as bad as he has. Looked over. The last two months is that in the end. I don't think he's talented. Enough like Shawn Watson or an Andrew Luck to overcome massive dysfunction and John Dorsey the GM. and Cleveland doesn't doesn't give a rip about character he doesn't Care Kareem Hunt get over. I don't care I covered a GM in the NBA. Bob Whitsitt very smart guy. But he used to just say it's not my job job to make these guys right. Yeah I was in college. Never recalled the Oregonian newspaper called them Jail Blazers and it was just a collection of talented misfits misfits and Bob Whitsitt the GM. History was not my job to make sure there's a lot of them. Were Nice guys is in funny but the point is is John. Dorsey whole thing is be talented. I don't give a rip about so that's what my takeaway is. Baker is going to have to deal with this nonsense for the rest of his career in Cleveland. 'cause this is what the guys who are difficult things can change you. Get a head coach in there that that first meeting you know by the tone of that meeting this is different. You know in so once you get and you get a new coach in there. That's going to lay the law down and this is what is going to be. Oh for sure fall in line. Baker Mayfield is. He's not playing well at least not in their last year. But you look at it just from Baker Mayfield's perspective his quarterback coaches roundly last year. He Camp Easy I played on his Kensington. Peasy you are going to be prepared. You're going to know everything. Maybe too much information. What what he's GonNa give it to you? That could be the case. Offerings of lying plate is in great. He has weapons to be better but I mean he was running around a lot yesterday. Thought he played well they should blew him out. I thought Oh no. It's I said when I watched that game I take away Baltimore's easily. The best team missed so many throws out routes wardell wardell. Just he's wide open third down just misses him and even a deep route Odell had to slow down for that he. He's playing well enough for them to win these Games Games but if if they were to make the playoffs they're gonna get smoked especially with myles Garrett plan well I mean if if I remember right now they're Cleveland's foreign six if the raiders. Tres win this week. They're going to be a wildcard team because Kansas City is GonNa win their division so this morning to me. I look at Oakland Buffalo and I think and by the way Tennessee Z.. I. Everybody this morning's like Cleveland's GonNa make the playoffs. There are twelve teams currently in the AFC. Battling for six spots. Cleveland's got the worst record. I would say chargers they can probably finish nine and seven. They're not beating Baltimore. They might they might. They're not echoed Arizona and face. Marie Marie you've seen that guy. Got Guys really where he is underrated off. Pick the cardinals the last two weeks. Here we go. So here's the records. Where where where are they sneaking? Jacksonville gets nick foles. They've already beaten Buffalo Gilbert. They're they're two games behind buffalo there. I there are too far back. They've already beat the steelers. They'll play them again. Pittsburgh's not getting ten colts. Jacoby said to come back. So what else off. Indy runs off four straight wins. It's going to be tough. They could conceivably go in and say oh doubt if they do but at worst I'm GONNA say nine and seven. They're going to beat the cardinals. They might make it tough. They're going to beat the cardinals. TJ HIRSCHMAN CLEVELAND Browns. Though out they remind me of a pretty girl all you need to leave her alone. But it's like I I can't I guess very pretty girl to me last night the heard I'm Katie couric and I'm back with my new podcast next question with Katie couric. Next question aims to make sense of our chaotic complicated. An ever changing world one question at a time. I look forward to figuring this all out together. Listen to next question with Katie couric on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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