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S2E13 Last Chance
"Don't want to wait for new episodes of cold. All thirteen episodes of cold season to justice for joyce are available right now on amazon music. You can listen to the entire season for free by going to amazon dot com slash cold podcast or by downloading the amazon music app and following cold. This podcast includes discussion of rape and sexual assault abuse murder and other criminal behavior listener. Discretion is advised. Sean young one of the attorneys who had represented doug level during his two thousand fifteen capital murder. Trial met with the attorney handling doug's appeal of his death sentence in march of two thousand nineteen. That second attorney coleen coburg made an audio recording of the conversation. Don't tell us that. If you didn't catch that sean called dug a manipulator and associate path. But i'm getting ahead of myself here. So let's take a moment in review doug levels rape and murder of joyce joost in nineteen eighty five had created a legal mess his guilty plea to capital murder in ninety three followed by his conviction for the same crime at trial. In two thousand fifteen meant he had twice received a death sentence but by two thousand seventeen. The case had once again become bound up by an appeal. Doug claimed sean young had torpedoed the two thousand fifteen trial by failing to call many people dug identified as potential character witnesses. He'd also claimed lawyers for the church. Of jesus christ of latter day saints had interfered with the testimonies of several people. Sean had called to the witness stand. Doug also opened a second front on sean by filing a complaint against him with the utah state bar which he mentioned in this letter to judge. Michael tarita the utah. State bar investigated. Mr young and on march second. 2017 voted to direct the office of professional conduct to file a formal complaint against mr young and district court. Doug's wasn't the only bar complaint. Pending against sean there were others rising out of at least twenty different cases. Sean reached an agreement during the summer of two thousand eighteen to settle all those complaints as part of the agreement. He signed a statement. Admitting fault in dugs case the statement said sean had failed to screen all but two of the eighteen witnesses assigned to him during doug's trial that he had failed to question the witnesses who did testify about their beliefs. Doug was a remorseful man and that he had capitulated to the churches lawyers. A judge suspended. Shawn's law license for a period of three years. Sean told the desert news at the time. He didn't agree with the claims in the statement but had signed it simply to put the matter behind him. Meantime doug new appellate attorney coleen. Coburg was dogging sean. She'd learned he possessed hundreds of emails. That could be relevant to doug's appeal in a sworn affidavit kaleen wrote sean had repeatedly told her he would provide them then repeatedly failed to do so she had to ask judge it to issue a court order demanding. Sean surrender his emails which the judge did and so that's why shawn and coleen met at a courthouse in salt lake city to make that exchange in march of two thousand nineteen. Sean told choline. He disagreed with any suggestion. His representation of doug had been ineffective capable of us advice as a jerry jerry in collector judge hundred judge vigil judge on the case wydra of channels to death. One i'm not gonna wait my Information might of time. So sean said he refused to spend any more time on a our dollar another thousand dollars just yes out gave. Sean said he wouldn't get his law licence back. Even if the court decided his work for doug had been up to par. We're those social under doug level had not been able to convince a single juror. He deserved a chance for parole but he was about to work his way. Out of maximum security at the utah state prison and one step closer to his ultimate goal freedom to this is the finale of cold season two episode thirteen last chance from. Ksl podcasts. i'm dave collie back after this break. Protect your home anytime from anywhere with ring alarm for a special offer. Go to ring dot com forward slash cold. It's the perfect way to start your ring. Experience ring alarm is a powerful affordable home security system that you can easily install yourself and it works seamlessly with other ring products in one simple app for me. It provides peace of mind on days when i work at the office and days. When i work from home it was super easy to set up and the kit came with everything i could possibly need. I put a contact sensor on every possible. Entry point to my home like first floor windows doors. There's even a setting for the motion detector to ignore my pets so it only detects intruders and doesn't go off every time they jump on the couch again. Go to ring dot com slash cold for a special offer on a ring alarm security kit. Today you can build a system that's right for your home and have it up and running in minutes. That's ring dot com forward slash cold ridden dot com slash cold. It's the twentieth anniversary of the terrorist attacks of september eleventh. But dan to burski isn't interested in that day. He wants to talk about what happened the next day and every day after that in his new podcast nine twelve. Dan tells the story of a series of characters whose lies would never be the same after september eleventh. Follow nine twelve on amazon music. Doug level happened to be listening to the radio on april. Third two thousand nineteen when he heard a woman named candice. Madson on the airwaves of ksl. Newsradio with your kids. You want to be the hero right. You want to be in charge of everything. I think it's okay for your kids to see you be vulnerable and to let your kids know that you struggle that you got help. Candice worked as a producer for ksl tv and was promoting a documentary called hope. In your darkest hour the twenty two minute program profiled. Several people affected by suicide including some who described their first hand struggles coping with of self harm. Life is hard. We can't do it alone. We just need to reach out and support each other and validate without judgment. I think people are so afraid of being judged. Doug wrote candice a letter that same day. Dear ms candice madsen. I just got done listening to you. Talk about suicide on ksl radio. I thought your comments were spot on the letter. Wasn't the only item. Doug put in the envelope enclosed as a pamphlet which has a story about a little mouse. I crossed paths with here at the prison. Many many years ago. I decided last year to write about my experience with the mouse. In the hope that it could be used to help prevent suicide here in utah and elsewhere the front of the pamphlet included an illustration of a rather plump gray mouse holding a small cube of yellow cheese above the mouse were printed. The words unforeseen angel candice opened the pamphlet and started to read was pretty basic. It didn't get very much information about him other than that. He was an inmate. When i was a little boy. Our family of five moved out to the country to live on a small farm. I found that. I had a love for animals and especially way of connecting with them. Let's fast forward through the bids. Where doug described his parents divorce his brother's death and his descent into drug and alcohol abuse. Eventually i did the unthinkable for which i was sent to prison taking the life of an innocent person. He did not bother to say who this person was or why he had killed her but said his arrival at the prison had sent him into a well of depression and quote spiritual darkness. One day a little furry face. Mouse came wandering into myself clearly looking for trouble or an easy snack. This was the happiest moment on a block. I was happy to give the little guy anything he wanted. Doug spent the next four paragraphs detailing his interactions with this mouse describing how he had lured the critter by rubbing peanut oil between his fingertips. He said he had talked to the mouse. Finding it and attentive listener may sound strange to most people but that little creature that god put on this earth distracted just long enough to help me get through. The darkest loneliest most unstable time in my life he concluded with a proclamation that all people are children of god with value and purpose. He offered suicide prevention resources. If you find yourself in a very dark place struggling to find hope or purpose in life please take the first step toward a brighter happier more fulfilling life. Doug used the word. I thirty times in this narrative the name joyce joost did not appear once s cam. Flat was so well produced professionally done so i was able to do that in prison and so i thought that was interesting. Turned the pamphlet over and saw a logo on the back. It read rising star outreach. Candice showed the pamphlet to a friend. Who asked if she knew doug was or what he had done. A quick search through the ksl archives refreshed her memory she discovered the evidentiary hearing tied to doug's appeal had not yet happened but was just around the corner and i started thinking. I wonder if he's trying to kind of get character. Witnesses utah second district court judge. Michael doritos spent most of the month of august. Two thousand nineteen on that evidentiary hearing hara. Let's turn to matter of utah. Douglas level nine two one nine zero zero four zero seven council. We see your parents for the record. Please doug's appeal of his two fifteen death sentence revolved around the idea. His defense team hadn't done a good job. This is a typical step in many death. Penalty appeals but the utah supreme court had wanted more information before making a ruling on doug's claims of ineffective counsel so did sent the appeal back to judge tarita on what's known as a rule twenty three remand scheduled for sheriff sherman on an order from the supreme court to this role. Twenty three quarters. And i have reviewed hours of this testimony but rather than plow through it. All chronologically. I'm going to jump around a bit to better focus on a few particular points. I'll start with doug's mouse during the hearing former prison. Guard carl jacobsen recalled doug having once befriended a rodent. But it wasn't a mouse. He had a pet squirrel once clusters trained it and had it in his his Room for the whole summer. And and one day i confronted him and said you know this. This is disgusting. You and your roommate chewy have done things wrong. And you're in jail for a reason. This squirrel has done nothing. It needs to be out chasing girls squirrels and it needs to be together nuts and i says you keep it in a prison as your little pet. You are disgusting and i left next day. Comeback duggal squirrel. He let it go. Ken tucker who was married to one of doug's cousins also brought up doug's treatment of animals. So i've always you know you hear about bad johnson. Usually they don't want to do that does nevertheless never find hard. Kent said he had seen that kindness all the way back in doug's earliest years when he was just a boy on the farm says jonathan manhattan mean community they brought to human was interested in this which while animal and to where he's working in the time he was taking this meat living worse. So was this. Mouse mentioned in the pamphlet. A real thing or was it. An amalgam part squirrel part mink part story borrowed from the movie. The green mile doug's character. Witnesses painted him not just as a protector of animals. But also as a shepherd of men leon denny who had served time in the state prison in eighty eight described how doug had helped him overcome his anger. They stopped hayden's so much. Abbas was hey shirt looking. I had to step up an not testified at the trial but said he would have gladly done so had doug defense team bothered to ask other. Witnesses told of how doug had cared for fellow inmates. When they were ill or despondent. You go back to you. And how do i know that. Because he was saying that he don't believe me. I had had more than forty prisoners. Running down way spiritually. Come back right becky. Douglas had discovered in doug and enthusiastic booster for her nonprofit rising star outreach reina. Very impressed with how how much he wanted to do. And how he cared about. Children at rising star doug had spent the last decade talking up rising star to anyone who would listen in fact several of his witnesses including his bishops confessed. He had talked to them into contributing. Becky said doug had spent years taking correspondence classes on religion. He had watched a tv series about the history of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints and another about the new testament then sent her letters explaining how each had strengthened his faith who is pretending religion and yet one of the bishops who had to doug a man named brent sharman admitted deep discussion of spiritual matters had been the exception rather than the rule during their sunday visits everyday issues. What was going on in his life. In my life in the world which led the state's attorney to ask if doug's turned religion might have been an act. Did doug had once told his. Ex wife rhonda. You can't be in control and less you manipulate russell. Monas- the attorney who had helped. Doug arranged visitation with his son in the late nineties. Said he didn't see their friendship that way. You don't think he's manipulating you. And that's on the basis of telephone calls that he controls one of those phone calls had come shortly after doug had received death verdict in two thousand fifteen. Doug had called russell upset wanting to know why he turned his back on him. I had changed my mind about appearing to testify. He had no idea why why wasn't there. He's i'm betrayed him. I did everything. I could to ensure that i wasn't there because nobody ever called me I noticed a pattern. As i listened to all this testimony day after day witness after witness. The questioning almost seemed to follow a script. Appellate attorney coleen. Coburg would start eliciting answers that suggested trial. Defense attorney sean. Young had dropped the ball. You have any communication with mr young before he calls you to the dance that he would understand and know what you were even going to say when he asked you question. She asked the witnesses who had dealt with the attorneys for the church of jesus christ to explain what the churches lawyers had said. And done i think therefore. I think they were interested in protecting the assistant. Utah attorney general mark field. Would then take over. He would use cross examination to reveal. How little any of these people knew about what doug had done to end up on death row. That was true. Even four leon denny. Who had met doug in prison when doug was still denying having raped. Joyce is possible that mr level really was never told me. I'd never have never said that was discussed seen causes problems day. Marshfield would also point out how none of the witnesses who had met doug. Since he had received the original death verdict in ninety three had ever interacted with him outside of maximum security. Have you ever seen how done level react when a a woman refuses his advances with me to think that someone who is capable of murdering another person in order to not go back to prison would be capable of feigning remorse in order to get out of prison. The point mark was making here. Was that the trial. Defense team might have had good reason. Not to deeply probe all of doug's supporters in front of the jury. Has you don't want people who are going to testify but levels have rice without role. You can't call those people you can only worth say unequivocally doug level should be out anything different then. There's then way doug was set it up. it's remember. Doug had refused to allow the jury. The option of life without parole mark suggested doug had for years intentionally kept his supporters in the dark with the singular goal of someday getting out of prison it. Mr level is honest and wanna kind of get to the bottom of that. Because you've also said that you never talked about the crime. Is that right. I think he would've told me further asking well. Did he ever volunteer it. This meant each witness was vulnerable to facing those facts for the first time on cross examination. You would let him out of prison. I certainly heard things here today. More so as you indicated knowledge. Here's me some reason for mark exposed other vulnerabilities. Like how gary webster the former bishop and parole board member had actually signed the papers that let doug out of prison early in the armed robbery case. That was when you were there. Abortive partisan parole. Is that right. So i mean i guess what i'm saying is how are you. How do you know the ravel won't do the same thing when he gets out this time. What would the jury have made of that statement in two thousand fifteen when weighing the choice of giving doug chance at parole. I'm going to focus for a moment on the testimony of becky. Douglas to provide a better sense of how the state's line of attack worked mark asked becky. If she knew about doug's conviction for armed robbery in seventy eight she said no so. You didn't know that he had been released in three years. This queued up a string of follow up questions. Do you know what he did two years later. Three years later he drew out each detail of the crime starting from win. Doug had i seen joyce at the pierre. Three come out of that restaurant and when he saw her get in her car. He followed her home. You know that i knew that. Can i think what he did was unbelievable. And and horrible and woman we all and ice kill for what happened to and i and i don't think i need cannot happen to what i need to know what happened to that level. Becky was not in control of this narrative mark continued describing what had happened when joyce had arrived home even looked at her. And said you're attractive. Do you wanna go have a drink with me. Did you know that. I think jerry what happened is mark forced becky to acknowledge what she knew. Or didn't know. Never flinching away from the facts after he did that. He was aroused enough to sodomize her. That he didn't tell you that city clear about no he didn't tell you know turnouts influence right. Tell me what you want to say no to and say no. He asked about doug's efforts to hire a hitman who had been failed to follow through. Becky said that she knew that he hired a second person. And you know that. That person said i read. Mark described the night of joyce's murder. How joyce had begged for her life as doug force-fed her volume and drove her into the mountains and he choked her unconscious. Were you aware of that turnaround. You'll see that there is remorse. Demanded your honor not responsive and you talk about the terrible horrible things that he did. He's over there and you asked me how i know. He's remorseful actors that one answer to your question to you. Indicate sincerity yourself. I guess that's your opinion. Becky came through this gauntlet only to then face. Perhaps the most critical question wouldn't you agreed with. There's an some risk gets out. He may harm another person. I is solo snappers. Okay but not zero. Not for me either or you lever but we know the doug level raped and murdered another murder to woman. Don't we doug's character. Witnesses were not unified in their responses to this final question. Some said their newfound knowledge of doug's crimes did give them pause in supporting his bid for parole others like former bishop john. Newton equivocated wouldn't life without crawl satisfy v. The safest alternative. Well you know you're saying would it be safe alternative safest implies that you know yes but you know when your daughter's is now the age joyce joost was when that man great and took her life you understand that professional On one point though the witnesses all seemed to agree the doug they knew was not the same man who had killed joyce all those many years ago. So says is he's already you just say did you. Just say is irrelevant. Yes because i don't know that only i'm in two thousand seven One final point before we move on during the evidentiary hearing several of doug's witnesses said something like this on more opportunities because he's concerned publicity of this role reach. His family feels in my opinion rate amount of remorse and research aware of hungriness suffering sufferings. Own doesn't want candice. Madson my colleague at ksl tv who had received that pamphlet from doug. In the mail attended parts of the evidentiary hearing. She noted how much older doug looked. Compared to his appearance in eighty-five or even ninety three and then the other thing that was kind of heartbreaking is joyce's daughter is in that courtroom. Alone i asked kim salazar about this idea doug not talking about joyce was somehow meant to spare her family additional pain if he were trying to minimize our pain and suffering. At this point we wouldn't still be on a twenty three b remand. Thirty five years later he'd be done. This thing would be done but it's far from done. He has an even scratched. The surface of the appellate process were still arguing about ineffective assistance of counsel. It's ridiculous so he is not trying to spare us anything. Candice wrote a letter of her own in the fall of two thousand nineteen just said basically that it was interested in interviewing him. I wanted to bring producer and senate. I think it was only a paragraph long. Doug's reply arrived soon after. I appreciate your offer to come to the prison to interview me. But i must decline. Whenever i'm in the news. I know that it is very upsetting to the family and loved ones of ms joost. Each time i am in court. I believe it is very difficult for them. Well i wrote back and made it clear that joyce's family knew that i had reached out to him and i never heard back. Doug had included another full-color pamphlet containing a different inspirational message about his life in prison published again by becky douglas's charity rising star outreach. I mean i believe in redemption and that people imprisonment should have an opportunity to do good. But i questioned his motives. I had been working as a radio news producer at the time of dogs. Two thousand fifteen trial. I was aware of it then but only superficially as the story of a very old murder which had been solved but was back in court on a technicality. It wasn't until candidates came to me and talked about receiving the letter from doug. My interest was piqued like canvas. I dove into the archives. The stories. I found all seemed to focus on doug. It became clear to me. That joyce's story like susan powell's had not been told. I couldn't shake the feeling joyce deserved better so i spent more than a year tracking down sources digging up old audio pouring over court transcripts in searching for a secluded mountain grape site. The only thing. I believe is. She's not where he took us. Gotta be somewhere else. I can't believe the heat. I refuse to believe that he doesn't know where she's at bill. House doesn't believe cougars or coyotes are to blame for joyce not being on the mountain below. Snow basin neither does former south ogden. Police sergeant terry carpenter for that matter. He went back there how long after he killed her and buried her. He knows exactly where she's at in knows. Exactly where joyce's son greg. Roberts is likewise skeptical. I mean it's such an intense situation. I know he could take you right to the spot immediately. But where is that spot. Police and prosecutors showed with joyce joost case they could prove murder without a body but their inability to bring joyce home has left some deep scars. My wife and my two little kids one up one time to snowbasin area to on a picnic. If you will. And we're having lunch. And i said why don't we just walked down. This area in my wife looked that way uses. You're still looked at our i. Just let's just hot so we've got little kids and just walked in high all of a sudden my wife feels is terry. What if we find some out. There terry is a christian. He told me he believes in resurrection. He expects to see joyce again. Someday will i look forward to that day and wonder if it's not something. I missed the question of where to find joyce if not along. The old snow base in rhode isn't the only one still in need of answers you've heard terry say in this podcast. He believes doug might have killed other people. There are others who call this farfetched. And they may be right. I don't have firm evidence linking doug level with cherie warn for instance but cherise case is like joyce joost's long overdue for a fresh look all have more to say about that in the future. Kim salazar told me she believes the discovery of her mother's remains. If it happens we'll be a matter of random chance. I don't believe that even at the eleventh hour. If we ever were to reach the eleventh power that doug would be the one that would give us that information i truly in my heart believes that he won't so i do think we're gonna have to get there by some other means. Perhaps as i tend to suspect joyce's not far off the side of the highway that crosses the monte cristo mountains where a wildlife officer observed doug and rhonda together in late nineteen eighty-five. That's a piece of the puzzle that hardly anyone knew about before this podcast. I did not know about that at all. Australia's doc that that that's interesting is suggested to. Bill holt house. Joyce might be in one of those aspen groves buried under branches and leaves out of sight of the hunters who frequent those hills waiting for someone to step in just the right spot or maybe not. I made a vague reference to this theory. In a letter of my own to doug level doug did not respond. And it's a pattern with him that you know he doesn't want to disrespect the family or disrespect choices. Memory your disrespecting joyce by not saying her name by not remembering her. She is a person she was living. Curson and it's just when you read that letter. I don't think he got it. And i still don't think he gets it It's lunchtime. I'm hungry and i'm also tired of picking through leftovers in the refrigerator so i grab a thick slice of sharp cheddar. A couple. Good cuts of deli ham and two slices of dave's killer bread. I'm going with the good seed variety. This time. This is gonna be a good grilled cheese dave's killer bread has the perfect texture for this. 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Coburg asked for a one month extension with just days remaining due to a death in her family. She requested another delay. In february citing attorney help and workload then march happened is breaking news from l. Good evening we're following breaking news tonight. Jazz star rudy go. Bears confirmed to have the corona virus prompting the nba to suspend the season indefinitely. This comes as international health of the utah jazz. The state's premier professional sports team became a flash point in the global spread of kobe. Nineteen much of american society went into lockdown within hours of that announcement a magnitude five point. Seven earthquake rattled northern utah. A week later it dealt damage to the building that houses the utah state archives. Luckily no one was injured. Officials say damages are primarily cosmetic in the building is closed thirties continue monitoring the aftershocks kaleen requested another extension citing these unforeseeable circumstances month by month delay by delay. The goal posts moved farther into the future. Doug lost touch with his lawyer. As he revealed in a letter to the court that july i have had no contact with my attorney for some time. I have no idea as to what's going on. Please send me a copy of my court docket. For the last ninety days the utah attorney general's office submitted. Its proposed findings. That fall choline again asked for more time prompting another letter from doug in november. I ask this court to not grant miss coburg anymore. Extensions enough is enough. I am very frustrated. Judge to read aloud one final delay but warned if coleen didn't submit her proposed findings by the end of january. Two thousand twenty one a full year after the original deadline. He would go ahead and issue his ruling without her input. Doug's attorney did get her proposed findings in after the deadline. A few weeks later at the end of february judge dorito released his conclusions. The nearly one hundred seventy page document went against doug on every point in short trial attorney. Sean young had not acted deficiently. A full point by point analysis would take more time than i have so just a few observations. I judged to reset he found. Many of doug's witnesses lacked credibility and exhibited bias brought on by their disappointment at the outcome of the two thousand fifteen trial. He said many of them had become quote. Hesitant or outright evasive. When confronted with the facts of doug's crimes at the evidentiary hearing second judge found no evidence that church lawyers had threatened. Any witnesses or interfered with their testimonies third. The judge said the settlement agreement. Sean had signed over. Doug's complaint to the state bar after the trial was quote unreliable and contained numerous factual inaccuracies. He placed little if any weight. On what it said and fourth judge rita noted it was doug's own insistence on refusing to allow the jury the option of life without parole that caused most of his defense team's problems. Michael bowels and sean young had repeatedly pressed the doug to reconsider. They had known the best chance of saving. His life was to push for life without parole by denying that strategy doug had effectively limited value of his own witnesses. So where does all this leave us. Now doug's appeal is now back in the hands of the utah supreme court if the justices allow the latest death verdict to stand. It won't mean a quick end to the case years if not decades of additional appeals will likely follow these could potentially drag the case into the federal courts and if doug loses every step of the way there he will still have a chance to beg for commutation from the utah board of pardons and parole if on the other hand the utah supreme court overturns the death verdict. It will pave the way for yet another trial. The tragedy is. This all could have been prevented right from the start in the summer of one thousand nine hundred five. Doug repeatedly slipped through the fingers of police the courts in jail staff but it was joyce who paid the price for those failures. Utah created a state office for victims of crime. Two years after joyce's rape and murder in part because it recognized people like her had too often been left to fend for themselves. There would have been Much more care safety wrapped around this joost prevent. That's gary sheller. The head of the utah office for victims of crime. She didn't have any knowledge. She didn't have the opportunity to protect yourself in ninety four the year after doug's first death sentence utah. Voters ratified a crime victims. Bill of rights supporters of proposition number. One say it's an important first step in making the court process more victim friendly when we've seen with crime victims in the state of utah's that they're treated like pieces of evidence. They're not really giving any dignity. All the amendments says victims have the right to be treated with fairness dignity and respect they also have the right to be notified of important court hearings but supporters say most importantly the amendment says victims. Don't have to testify at preliminary hearings. Someone else such as a police officer could do that for them. This point strikes me as significant. It's a bit of a balancing act. Because bill hold house told me the entire rape case might have fallen apart in. Nineteen eighty-five had joyce not testified. I don't think if she hadn't been to the pre limb and the head and allowed the davis kind of attorney secretary to read that he might not have been convicted on the rate. Your argument is if victims eases some of the trauma. There is some opposition to the amid from criminal. Defense attorneys that the only aspect they're really against is the one that would eliminate the need for victims to testify. Preliminary hearings a police officer testifying from what a third person told him. That's written in the report doesn't always accurately tell us what happened in the case and and live witness testimony is is the best mechanism available for discovering the truth. The amendment passed in spite of that opposition. But gary sheller told meade these rights which are now enshrined in. Utah's constitution are largely symbolic. They're important critical. But at the same time they're just kind of warm and fuzzy and feel good and have no teeth. What did have teeth was a massive federal crime. Bill passed into law by the us. Congress that same year spearheaded by a senator who is now serving as president of the united states. Joe biden much can and has been written about the more controversial provision this crime bill in the years since the legislation provides eight billion dollars for new prisons seven billion for crime prevention and outlaws nineteen types of assault weapons. We will finally banned these assault weapons from our street that have no purpose other than to kill welcome. Possession manufacture and sale of some semiautomatic firearms has since expired. Walks of new cops can soon be hired with funds from the bill but salt. Lakes mayor admits it might be hard to beat the payroll when federal funding expires. I'm always concerned about that. But i'm willing to take that risk. I think we can do it I'm quite confident we can do it. And we will be applying. We need those officers right now. That bulking up of police ranks has come under increasing scrutiny. Since the rise of the black lives matter movement. The crime bill expanded the death penalty making many more federal offenses eligible for capital punishment fulfilling. The president's promised to get on crime. We'll make lots of new work for. Utah's us attorney. We've got to get on top of the provisions in this bill very quickly and there are many that could potentially affect our work but most relevant for the purpose of our story is a portion of that crime bill known as the violence against women act. We have significant penalties in here to deal with providing women with some genuine protection Particularly women who are battered and abused by their spouses their loved ones quote unquote Those with whom they're familiar joe biden then. A democratic senator from delaware had personally authored. That part of the package. The only thing in this bill that i wrote from scratch was the violence against women. That is a small part of this. Maybe that's why so mostly attached to it utah. Republican senator orrin hatch had railed against the crime. Bill calling it stuffed with pork. There are a lot of us who are just fine sick trying to stop this gravy sucking hog called the federal government and its liberal friends from eating us alive but hatch had supported one small piece. The violence against women act even crossing the aisle to cosponsor that bit with biden. The act aimed to close gaps that existed between police prosecutors courts and nonprofit service providers in their support of victims of domestic abuse stalking and sexual violence. It's method of doing so came largely in the form of grants federal money handed off to the states over the past two and a half decades violence against women act grants have helped fund domestic violence hotlines and rape crisis centers. They have allowed colleges and universities to crack down on stalking and sexual assaults they have provided legal support to survivors states have come to depend on these funds to provide critical services to women but those grants are not eternal. They only continue if congress votes to keep funding them every five years or so at the time recording this violence against women act funding has lapsed and lawmakers have so far failed to reauthorize it. Joyce's experienced proves one of the most critical needs for any survivor is information. Think back to that question. She asked only hours after her rape. How safe ham. I reading me. That if i didn't if i didn't go with them who's going to be the end of it for me. Apparently in my joyce it had no way of tracking doug level in the weeks and months after his arrest was he in jail out of jail. She didn't know for long time. That was really kinda treated as none of the victims business. that what. We're doing this person again. That's gary sheller from the utah office for victims of crime. He told me most states. Now use a system called vine to keep people like joyce informed about their attackers status and they can receive a notification if they're going to be released if they have a hearing coming up with the board of probation parole if they're changed their moved through one facility correctional facility to another. They get a notification so they can. They can have some some peace of mind knowing that they're at the moment safe. Technology also now allows cops courts probation officers and the like to more easily. Share information across jurisdictional lines but lapses can and do still happen because people make mistakes. Exhibit bias are overworked or undertrained or just burn out and stop caring. Joyce had trust that the system would protect her but her son greg. Roberts told me she'd also just wanted to move on with her life. She didn't tell me that she had been raped until a couple months after it happened and then she really played it down. Joyce had feared the humiliation of being labeled a victim and having her private life dissect it in court as she had seen happen on. Tv that's less likely to happen now than it was in eighty five because of state and federal rape shield laws these laws say defendants cannot use information about an accusers past sexual behavior or sexual predisposition as evidence with only a few narrow exceptions but while shield boss have strengthened protections in the court of law. One look at social media will show. They hold no sway in the court of public opinion. Retired clearfield police police. Detective bill holt. House told me he thinks the chances of doug ever getting out of prison are low. But maybe that's not the point. I think that is a glimmer. The hilson sunday get out. I personally believe in that He could con people then and he can con- people now back in episode eight. I described how prison staff moved dug into maximum security in ninety two. After terry carpenter served him with the murder charge. Doug had gone from living in a dormitory setting where he was free to work and interact with others to spending all but three hours each day locked alone in his. Get this straightened out. Pretty quick with attorney and whatnot to let go back to work at the sign shop. I keep my job for me. Can't keep forever when doug wrote to my colleague candice madison in two thousand nineteen. The envelope showed he had sent the letter from you into one. The maximum-security cellblock at the utah state prison that has for decades housed the state's death row inmates but something interesting has happened. In the time. Since the utah department of corrections moved dug out of max he is now living in medium security. I've been told he has a job again. Working in the prisons welding shop fewer fences. Now separate him from the outside world. I was curious why this change so i asked corrections director. Brian nielsen to explain it. Those that have a death sentence. They ban in very restrictive housing traditionally for a very long time without the option to do anything else. Brian wouldn't talk specifically about doug's case but said the department implemented a policy in two thousand five called last chance. He says it allows inmates to earn their way. Out of max. So they've really had to demonstrate that they can't function in that setting ahead of time and then we test the waters in small incremental ways to tell them get there but something doesn't add up because at the time. I'm recording this. The department's website says the policy doesn't apply to death row inmates. The website says the only way off of max for them is to have their convictions overturned or sentences commuted which contradicts what. Brian told me. We've had a couple make it that far but it's taken you know thirteen fourteen years to get there more than a couple prison records show of the seven inmates under sentence of death in utah in june of two thousand twenty one only two of them are still in maximum security at the facility that risk is going to be inheriting that process and and we keep our guard up all the time while looking for opportunities to help people advance. There is a logic allowing inmates. A path forward. The vast majority are only in prison temporarily. It's the goal of the department to help. Offenders changed their ways and avoid coming back once released. Even people serving life without parole sentences might be easier to manage if given an opportunity to better their own situations in some small way. But utah's courts have twice. Said doug should die for what he did. Which means the state now finds itself in the awkward position of simultaneously arguing in court. Doug as a manipulator who has conned people into supporting his bid for parole while at the same time granting him additional freedoms based on his ability to convince prison staff and social workers he is not a threat and i know these are professional counselors that he's with. I understand that they've got a lot of training so do i but he's a con artist. Ai requested a copy of the last chance policy under. Utah's public records law. That apartment refused to provide it claiming it was protected because release could interfere with investigations or audits. Doug level murdered choice. Joost to keep her from testifying. He tampered with tom. Peters to try and intimidate him into not testifying he used his last stint on the outside. After convincing the utah board of pardons and parole he had changed to rape and to kill. How does all that balance. Now against doug's good behavior while in prison to one Does he ever really can't ever game prison to have a realistic cancer. That are being quoted up one no to also know bill house told me he believes it's unlikely prosecutors will win. A death verdict a third time. If doug gets yet another trial. If there's another jury here it's going to be a jury people who weren't even born when this happened and they're not going to be able to relate but i think he'll be convicted again if we go back to trial. The evidence was good. It's still good. And i have no doubt but i i would be surprised if they once again pursued the death penalty. Utah has not executed a death row inmate. Since two thousand ten it hasn't added to death row accepting doug's two thousand fifteen return since two thousand eight. Utah's commission on criminal and juvenile justice released a report a few years back that noted public support for the death penalty in the. Us has waned to its lowest. Point since nineteen seventy two. The report cited a gallup poll which showed death penalty support in the nineteen nineties. When doug was first sentenced to death was near eighty percent as of a few years ago that had fallen to about fifty five percent as of two thousand twenty half of the states in the us had polished the death penalty or placed capital punishment on indefinite. Hold joyce's family meantime remains steadfast in their push to see doug level die. I don't see it ever happening. Even though greg roberts acknowledges they are swimming against the currents of culture and criminal process that's why just northville if they'll ever carried out in this case because it still got so many years to go. Do i think in my lifetime. They'll ever see doug it. The the death penalty will whatever go through. Now kim randy salazar have each been ground down by the decades of never ending court hearings. And you know if you were any kind of man you'd be dead right now because you would ask for the death penalty just to be over with neither believes joyce's killer will ever win parole somewhere in his mind people leave he's going to. I mean i think he really believes that someday he could walk out of there. The taxpayers have paid so much money for him to be down there and to get lawyers and tell his side of the story and tell his side of the story or the son of a bitches. Guilty and you senators the death gear over with meaning doug level might just remain in limbo until the day. He dies of natural causes as has happened to other utah. Death row inmates in recent years. I think that we have a better chance of dying of old agent there than we do with him. Dying by the hand of state. Do i guess fair absolutely not absolutely not but do i hope one day that he has to see joyce again hell ya know. I hope that ron estes. She joy skin. I'm not here to advocate for doug's life or death. It's not my intent to take a position on capital punishment but it's worth considering the collateral damage of a case like dogs. The justice system finds itself struggling to balance the cries for vengeance. from people. like joyce's ex husband mel roberts. I'm probably the one person that could got an airplane. Went up there and shot. That sound bitch got left on difference. Trust me i thought against doug's civil rights and the pleas for mercy from people like becky douglas and you talk to someone and beer prime so hard. They can't talk to you because they feel bad about. Let us say angry angry with himself. He put years with himself over. What he it is perhaps an impossible balance to strike bit earlier. I talked about how i i came to know. Joyce's story would. I didn't tell you was this sense of dread i felt at taking on the assignment of telling it i knew from the outset. I would have to contend with a very sensitive topic. I worried about all the mistakes and missteps. I might make a man in this space trying to share joyce's perspective. It was in some ways similar. To how i felt in season. One telling the story of susan powell's abusive marriage the differences. Susan left us a better record of her thoughts actions and feelings. Much of what. I know about joyce's life comes only secondhand yet. The more i have learned about joyce as a person not just as a name and a news story the more empathy. I've gained for what she went through. Look i enjoy a place of privilege in society strange guys. Don't follow me home. When i go out to dinner with a friend. I have never worried that a woman might grab me by the throat and tear my clothes off outside my own house. This privilege can breed complacency. It can make me blind to what joyce and so many other women experience every day and that is injustice. This season bears the subtitle justice. For joyce and i have to be honest. I don't love it. It seems trite to me. It doesn't capture the way. I felt the first time i heard joyce's voice in that tape recording with bill. Hold house just hours after her rape. It can't convey how i hurt for her. When i listened to her voice cracking saying the words i have been raped. How i still break down and cry when she asks a police officer. How safe ama- i- justice for. Joyce reduces what she went through to a tagline and i hate that i voiced this complaint and was challenged to come up with something better and i couldn't do it. There is no justice for joyce just preface it by saying that when you kill somebody you kill somebody. There's no such thing is justice for what he did to joyce. Joyce hadn't wanted to go to detective. Bill hold house after doug level followed. Her home raped her kidnapped her and raped her again. She had simply wanted. What so many other people who experience unexpected trauma want a return to normalcy and a restoration of joyce would have been justified if she had chosen to stay silent but she spoke up because she felt a responsibility to help protect whomever doug might have targeted next and for a brief moment it seemed the system might work. Bill believed joyce doug landed in jail. She spoke her truth in court. Then all the mechanisms of law and civil society that were meant to protect her failed the people who were closest to doug repeatedly rewarded him the handsome white guy from good christian family with the benefit of the doubt even after he had proved he didn't deserve it. They chose to believe him when he said he had been falsely accused or at least decided to look the other way. Some are still doing so even today. Dissociating the doug they know from the one who chose to kill joyce joost joyce paid for her courage with her life. So what message does that send to. Every other woman who has ever been groped catcalled stocked assaulted or raped and feared coming forward. Imagine the tragedy of a joyce who had lived by keeping the rapist secret spending her entire life plagued by undeserved guilt and self doubt. I'm wondering how many others that man had gone on to terrorize. How many men have allowed still allow their privileged to blind them to what so many women endure in silence. I don't want to be one of them. If you or someone you know has endured rape sexual assault or sexual abuse of any kind. Help is available in the united states. You can call one eight hundred six five six h. o. p. e. or visit r. a. I n. dot org to connect with free resources. Through the rape abuse and incest national network. No one needs suffer in silence. You are not alone. If you haven't already please subscribe to or follow cold to make sure you get every episode. You can also interact with me and the cold team on facebook. Instagram and twitter at the cold. Podcast cold is researched. And written by dave collie with editorial oversight by executive producers cheryl worsley additional executive producers. Include paul anderson nick pinella and andrew greenwood audio production by nina ernest mixing. By trent sell. Michael bonn miller composed the main score special. Thanks to the team amazon music. Full credits for each episode are available at the cold podcast. dot com. Cold is an amazon original by podcasts. In association with workhouse media. Thank you for listening I'm brooke and marisha. And where the hosts of even the rich. So picture this you're mariah carey and you're driving in your car with your friend on the way to a whole new adventure. You're tearing up the streets burning rubber to get as far away as possible. You saw a chance to escape and you took it okay. What am i trying to escape will not what it's who and it's your husband and manager. Tommy tola who keeps you on a very short leash. You haven't been anywhere alone in months so when you pull up to the window at your destination. You're so happy you could burst. You're finally at the drive through at burger king. Okay of all the places. I'm going to burger. King the up you order a side of fries and you're to save her every bite but suddenly your friends cell phone starts ringing and when she answers you can hear tommy security yelling at her to bring you right back. Okay so do i blow them off. Because i really want those fries. Well you'll have to listen to the season of even the rich. The emancipation of mariah carey follow on apple. Podcast amazon music the wondering app or wherever. You're listening right now. Join wondering plus in the wonder app to listen ad free.
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"And not not thinking about you know I'm just leaving college. A lot of these guys are going to the Va.. And these guys that I'm playing a strong to and So I began to gain weight and I did it all the wrong way. So I came in out of shape I was miserable I began to get depressed and you're right people sometimes lose sight of the fact that you con- not just every year but every league literally every day you have to reprove yourself because every day impact is someone is trying to dominate you you. You can't take risks. Because if they've become, they get consistent and dominating you in practice chanter coaches don't put them in a game and kill them a shot. So you can't take a rest. You can't get comfortable that all. I know at one time you had said that you had kind of lost interest in basketball. Did that happen to you or what was the circumstances they're? It happened to me actually first year or so because. That reason I was still out of shape and You know your your mind telling you to do things, but your body won't allow you to. And then just the set up the first year my coach. We didn't really. And and and I don't blame because I wasn't the player that that I was when I came out of college. Again, I was out of shape I wasn't really performing at a high level. So we didn't see eye to eye and so all of that on top of that just. Turned me off a little bit but I was fortunate to read an article just. Light. Spark because he's a bust I, got angry because I didn't want to be considered a bust. Yeah I lost interest for a minute, but I was able to fortunately dating back. I'm just wondering when you watch the NBA Today in UC Steph curry because I gotTa tell you when I watched steph curry I think about you at times because you can hit the free throws you hit the three pointers. You're a great assist guy do you see yourself a little bit and somebody like Steph Curry? We definitely have similarities I mean he's just he's he's prolific it's a new game. It's more of a same geared towards guards and. Just, shoot us they stretch threes and stretch for everybody shooting the ball. So I definitely see similarities he has a quick release. He can definitely handle the rock he can shoot for the mid range. The three point he has different angles when he shoots the ball. Definitely say similar but I'm not let his game he's just he's. I. Love to see Skillful People de. I have a motto that You said that you live by and I found it very engaging. Very thoughtful. It's one that you develop during your early playing days. You say, we don't have the luxury to waste our time to not leave a legacy worth leaving everybody is special and everybody is capable of doing great things. This has become my motto. How did that develop? Well actually this this this this. I. Had that belief allow but the actual quote came later moves by George, Washington carver that no one has the right to come into this world and go out of it without leaving behind distinct and the gentleman reasons having passed through it so. You know, we don't have the luxury waste what we've been blessed. By God, these guests So leave a legacy leaving and so. He's just put in a whole lot better work and I could have when I was younger. but it came from just an early age of. You know my grandmother uncle is teaching me the value. Look you've been given something. And you you you you have. Do you have a responsibility maximises? The best of your abilities and so that's what I try I didn't work in every aspect of life like education and things that they but definitely because I love basketball I saw future in it. It definitely resonated at every. One of the things that I've always believed personally that two and two is four, but then so is three and one, and so is one and three, and so I bring that up as a prelude to the decision that you may to refuse to stand for the Star spangled banner before game stating that the flag was a symbol of oppression and the United States had a long history. Of tyranny and yet you said in a speech that you gave the decision was not men in any way to be disrespectful to those who regard the national anthem as a sacred ceremony. I'm an African American citizen of this country and one who respects freedom of speech and freedom of expression. Tell me a little bit how you got to that particular point to make that decision to to. Decide to do what you did, and also what is it that people don't understand about what you were saying. Wow that's. Something minimize, but I'll try It was just I began to read. Once I became began to read more than ever before in my life and I came across a lot of different authors of the norm chump seized. Randall Robinson and there that he would, and I'm reading things that I never knew what was going on. Not just domestically but. You know in foreign policy. And coming from the background that I came from being educated because I wasn't educated my mother had an eighth grade education. I began to feel I began to find out things about how what, why why wasn't I taught this why didn't I learn this and so I began to feel cheated on the way. And and then so these things is open is a lot of things and I grew up poor I know it feels like to be poor and so when I'm hearing some of these things and just. Rubbed me the wrong way and so you. To look at assembled in the semblance supposed to represent. The character of the nation and when I didn't feel that that was being necessarily represented this is how this is how I chose to respond. And it was never meant to the public because for the longest nobody knew but someone called when. I spoke my conscience. And then it went globals but. As I said before it was it was it was initially meant to be a private protests not that it wouldn't have become public badly but I was still searching trying to find an understanding of how the world is working. And I remember saying even veterans. At times. Boeing's I said, look you don't. You don't understand. This is also for you because in so many ways veterans they go and we hear what they gave the ultimate sacrifice right. But when they come back of them can't even get medical care. Some of them are homeless. This is not how you treat somebody who gave the ultimate sacrifice. You know. So I'm I'm I was just really trying to think broadly. And look at those those things that really rubbed me the wrong way and that was my way of protesting and trying to bring attention to it which I think we all in some ways should do you know according to our conscience whatever that is what is writing a politician whether standing up for something giving money to a cost I? Think we all have a responsibility to stand up against what we considered to be unjust. Just when you take a look at Colin Kaepernick what he did and the way he demonstrated the way he felt as well. Did you see something in that that maybe most people would probably miss. No I just I. Just I. I saw person after speaking to him. I saw person who was doing the same thing he was he was. He was developing conscience and he. Conscience had wouldn't allow them to rest comfortably. And so that was his way. Of trying to trying to find comfort in. Trying to do something that he thought. Would make a difference and we all we all approach things differently and after talking to it, he he mentioned and that's the same way that I sell. Enfield. Today. He said, you know I've never felt more threes than I feel right now. This. This is what I. This is what I saw you. It's interesting that he should say that to you because there were death threats and spray paint a KKK sign. On a sign near your home that you were building in Mississippi and you were traded at the end of that season and you once said after that your decision to speak your mind was relieving and that was exactly what he had said to you wasn't it? Yes. Of course, and we that resonated with me right away and I said, this is this is what it does. When you do that. So for the longest, I would see things and I wouldn't feel the strengthening occurs to speak about. And it would bother me. because I'm here it is I'm I'm presenting myself just confident. You know courageous athlete that really knows himself shaking hands and the deep down a coward. You know that there's a lack going I'm insecure and I'm like, no, no no. No. I don't WanNa, live that way I don't want tyrod. I had to sell such you know and I said look man like short. You know. If. This is something that means something to me. I have to start somewhere. I've learned how to say no, I, have to start speaking conscience even look I'm not going to have all the answers. But if it's something that I believe to be true I have to move on it and then we'll. We'll figure it out as we go and so that that was my processing and that's what I saw so. and him and it resonated right away when he said that I've always been So respectful of you because you've been true to yourself and I think everybody has to be that way. I don't know that they can because there are things that come in that. Maybe you know take over and are more important. But you said I understand sometimes people view the flag is a sacred ceremony people fought for this country under. That banner I understand that you've got to understand that I've got to deal with myself every day the good and the bad. I just felt in my heart that if I can't do something as a Muslim we tried to perfect be perfect. Ever it is that we do if I couldn't stand if I couldn't do it one hundred percent I felt don't do it at all and I thought that was such a true honest statement. Yes. I can't say that you bet. I'll have to say. I agree. Basketball is fair to say you were basketball junkie because I mean I took a look you played outside the country. So many times you just wanted to keep playing the game you love. You know is in my DNA, I'm so competitive I'm still trying to forty years old I'm trying I'm. I told. My wife I said, you know I wouldn't be surprised if. I trained. Playing you know because I'm just I'm I'm still trying to get better. I'm still trying to find new ways to get a shot off new. This. Ridiculous but you might be. The. Other thing I think to is is that when you find something that you love, you shouldn't give it up unless you absolutely have to. Is there a moment in your mind and your basketball career that really is in grave in your mind that you'll never ever forget my mood? You know. Man just growing up on the parts and. I had so many near death experiences trying because I wanted it so bad. Not just. Not just being afraid and sale you. But just wanting to be great wanting to recognize and appreciate it wanted just to be the best and. Those moments, I think you know I. Know I. Don't think I know those moments helped shape and mold who I am today to push me through. You know the problems that you know everybody at some point we go through. And just never give up you know and. Those moments that that I would definitely treasure for the rest of my life because I could've been that kid to gave up and I think to read syndrome has something to do with that. Because it pushed me beyond where I wouldn't have gone without it. because when I wanted to stop, it was like it came in and all you have to know now you have to play me and you have to do it this way and you have to go full speed even though you are even though you're outta breath and if you don't make them this way. I'm GonNa make your life miserable if you leave and I couldn't leave until I had to finish that drill way if all of them had to go and they had to go net ten in a row if I was on my chest wanted skimmed winning and I had to start back at zero even when here. and. Just fighting through helped to become the person I am today. So I I will never forget those I wanNA. Thank you very much for being a part of sports byline. You're welcome here anytime. 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You heard what he had to say about why he did not stand for the national anthem when he was playing in the NBA and it was for religious reasons former point guard during his nine year NBA career with Denver Sacramento in Vancouver is considered one of the greatest free throw shooters in the history of the game he. Missed the all time free throw shooting NBA season record by only a single miss, and he also was an outstanding three point shooter played his College Basketball for Dale Brown at Lsu and Andrea. Kremer with US correspondent for HBO's Real Sports Get an outstanding piece and insightful as well on doors burke who is the first woman to be an NBA analyst on the League's top game broadcast I'm Ron Bar. Thanks for being a part of America's sports talk show. My Name Is Pedro Fernandez I the reigning defending the undisputed heavyweight champion the radio whereas we're talking combat sport Saturdays and Sundays Levin episodes of time join me for Rinta live worldwide on. 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He would do and say things at the age of two that eight-year-olds couldn't say or do. He was an exceptional and Brian Child and even fastest said, my parents told me that I was an unusual child. My given first name means nothing is impossible with God that sets the tone for my journey while I'm alive and he concentrated on academics graduating from high school when he was just fourteen years old and aspired to become a physician to further his career goals is parents sent him in thousand four to live with his uncle pediatrician in Yuba City California. So it's an interesting story and a very talented basketball player, and then right after that candice wiggins. Is going to join US former WNBA guard who played eight seasons five with Minnesota with all America career at Stanford She's one of only seven players to be a four time all American in women's basketball, and she was the third overall pick and the WNBA draft and she won wnba championship with Minnesota and her father the late Alan wiggins play Major League Baseball for the Orioles and the padres and when wiggins was just three years old, she was hit by a car and almost lost one of her is so very inspirational story about how she came back and had a great career in basketball as well. Check out the award winning sports byline. USA. Website, we have a number of our interviews, not only from sports byline, but across the network with all the great shows. So if you'd like to listen to many of them, all you have to do is go to sports byline DOT com. 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That's eight hundred, seven, three, zero, forty, three, thirteen. The consultation is free go to bright side tax relief dot com now. This is America's sports talk show sports byline USA. Here's Ron Bar. Best is daily joins, US. On sports byline. USA NBA Center who helped the Golden State Warriors particularly in the deciding game number six of the finals against Cleveland when their first NBA title in some forty years and he was the warriors first round pick in the two thousand twelve draft after playing his college ball at Vanderbilt and he's from Nigerian is one of six children I wonder festus. If you've had an opportunity to just sit back and think because I know you wanted to be a doctor think about the path that you've ended up taking and does it bring a smile to your face of wonderment? Well Yeah. It's been I'm definitely very blessed to have to be on this journey because. she talked me. To be seven, ten years ago. There's no way would say that I would be in the NBA I'll be an Indian champion. So you know it's more it's more Just. I don't know I don't know if it's confusion or just amazement of like how you know I. Just think that it's all God's plan God's Works and I'm just I'm just blessed to be on this journey. Honestly you know you want said, my parents told me I was an unusual child. My given first name means nothing is impossible with God that sets the tone for my journey while I'm alive and your mother said, he would do and say things at age to that eight olds couldn't say or do he was an exceptional on brilliant child have you ever thought as to why that is? Honestly I blame her. I blame her and I think that you know my parents did a really good job. My Mom, and my dad has done a good job of pushing me. It's I could definitely or in any aspect of my life, they always a. Challenge to be better you better than other people me my peers and everybody. So I think they just made me think outside the box a lot and I think that's part of why part of the reason why I am. And I might point out to everybody that festus concentrated on academics graduating from high school at fourteen and aspiring to become a physician to further his career goals parents sent him to California in two thousand four to live with an uncle. How was that a four you emotionally because your family's halfway around the world you wanted to do some things with your life, but it really wasn't there at the. Moment, how was that for you motionlessly? when I started playing the game into dozen photos very frustrating because. This is something that watch everybody everybody my age had been playing. They have in place it. There were about three five years old you know and so for me just starting just just picking up a basketball, it was very frustrating to see people do things that I. Can particularly do our very good at so you know You know the jokes and everything and they listen to people people's remarks. You know people say, Oh, you can't even chew gum and walk at the same time you know just talking about coordination and things like that. So it was very very it was a humbling experience but the thing thousand, very motivational inspiring for me because I it just made me WanNa work maybe like it was always. been even now when I work out working Boston things about you know. Came From and it's very. kind of fire it's kind of. Likes to find sodomy. You know I would think that when you're somebody that's oriented toward academics as you were, you could probably go to a book go to the Internet and find an answer. But when you're talking about something that's athletically inclined, there is no answer there you have to almost live at don't you fastest in order to get better at it was that hard for you to accept Yes. because people always tell you and there's also like also frustrations on people trying to teach me because like why can't you get everybody else in-transit? So for me, it was kind of on the first time. I liked I felt like I was behind. And that was a tough to deal with. But at the same time like I said, you know God working mystery mysterious ways and You know I've done a lot of things just to just try to catch up you know, I've done I've done. Yoga I've done boxing all these different things to not necessarily to finer yoga master but. but just to get my body I committed to the just being athlete you know since that coordination to to balancing to you know all these different things looking on core and all these different things trying to catch up with people so. For me starting behind this kind of been a blessing from the at the same time. I started not knowing a lot Also the. Fact that you know I didn't have any bad habits so when I went to vanderbilt. it was I was I was an open book I was a blank. Blank Book and you know I got to learn within a system that really worked for me, and that's the reason why you know with the warriors per day. So those this has positive. It had some negatives which as a kid you know I can see all the positive time but you know as I look back now I can I can say those all upon a larger plan I love what you said because your first points playing basketball you scored in your own team's basket and you when you recalled the incident you said. Everybody was running up the court and I was just running with him. It's kind of surreal sometimes I think about it now and I'm like damn outed I get here and then you went on to say I didn't know what I was doing everyone was getting frustrated with me. I was getting frustrated with it and when I had my first dunk in a summer league game in Las Vegas in two thousand six that's when I was. So excited it was so exhilarating that I started to like did you ever think about giving it up completely? Numerous. Numerous occasions even in college as well. Just because of how hardwoods for me you know like I said sometimes just. Just spend it was hard. It was hard. It's hard to pick up a sport and you know try to compete with people. There are playing high level every day and you know people didn't play on the whole lives I had I've had people around me whether it's teammates other my guardian who lives in Sacramento you know I got introduced. You know my uncle was the one that you into the game of basketball but I had a guy. Who? Who? is a random guys I got cut some high school. random guy mean ex me If I WANNA play on his age you team. And I'm sitting here looking at it like He just doesn't know he's seen me he thinks a tall guy, he thinks that. Yeah. Maybe I can play but I saw him you know listen I never played but he said you know what I want to help you his name. Somebody who lives in Sacramento Brandon Guy Someplace son. Me I under a you've seen for years and You know he's somebody that. I really respect today because you know he took a young kid me he took me the different basketball camps picnics you know different trainings and he was down to travel in the even when I decided to take a school he took the visits from me. So you know I've had a lot of support over the years in those towns doubted myself and you know like saying, it's just it's it's God because it end today like some random guy walking to me and then taking me on. His wings and you know doing all these things from me, me having parents that you know do it. They know much about basketball still told me hey, you know what we believe in you whatever you WanNa do you can do you know me being around the team as in college and a you now in the pros people that they put their arms around each other and you know support each other you know those those situation day you know I don't know that I could scripted myself. You know. So it's just I've had people around me. coke is teammates siblings. Everybody like that. It's coming around me. So I've been through never got you got an invitation to the Reebok all American camp and that was pivotal because it came in a year in which their recruiters there, and here's what the recruiters said recruiters awaited his arrival as if he were big foot, they left her head spinning at a z Lee size and raw potential even if it was clear that he lacked competence offers from twenty-seven Division One schools knew almost nothing about rolled in, and of course, your parents wanting you to be a doctor they want to go to Harvard, you ended up going to vanderbilt why? Families Theory academically oriented. So Harvard is the is the Meka's schools always thought about you know Harvard and Augsburg in terms of schools are Kinda like me sane when I start playing basketball. I wanted to play in the NBA you know it was. Kinda like this this far off out of reach thing you know staying out going to Harvard just because the schools are schools down looked up to and I've always heard about you know. The Pinnacle of academic. So You know when I got those invitations, you know they really couldn't hear anything else. They want the best for children, and so they want me to go to Harvard at the time I started to fall in love progress that made. Basketball. So I thought I wanted to give it a chance and I wanted to go to school had both you know both academics and and good athletic. So vanderbilt gave me a good chance to both and I'm very glad that I made that decision. Now you grew academically you grew athletically and when you left your head coach Kevin stallings said, he now has a feel for the game he has made himself an effective. Player I think it's very rare. He didn't learn the game in elementary school. He was trying to learn the game while competing effectively in the SEC that makes it even more amazing. Hold on just a second festus azaleas with us We'll talk about his NBA career and championship that he picked up as well with Golden State Warriors. 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I WANNA call the dictator kind of situation but you're in a school where you're everything is regimented and your coach to kind of tells you gives you all these rules and this is what you have to do. When you get to the pros you're Kinda yourself. You, have team makes teammates and coaches. But at the same time, you have to do everything kind of on your own and on your own time, and this is your job now. So you know you kind of have to be self disciplined and you have to make those sacrifices y'all been having somebody watching view time college where you always comfortable with your size because you know the big men mentality is what they talk about in basketball. Were you comfortable with that? I think basketball did a good job of making me very comfortable besides the. Purpose I felt like you know basketball especially when I first when I first came to the country, you know I remember walking through the mall one day and somebody's saying. 'cause people always ask me if I play basketball have something that I I got all the time almost basically Wh why you this big it has to be reason you know. So I remember somebody asking me for my autograph one time. This is before I start playing the game and someone said you know I have a feeling famous some day. You know. So I just I think that basketball. Kind of gave me that feeling of Me a feeling that I was using my my. That's really adequately. And Now when people say I think people ask me if I'm GONNA basketball player. I could probably. So yes no. I always thought that when somebody has to endure something, they weren't prepared for it probably makes them stronger and one of the things I've always respected about professional athletes is that they have a discipline of the mind that I don't think most other people do and I'm referring to the fact that in June two thousand thirteen, it was announced that you'd miss the entire season due to a new knee injury when that season was over with and you fought so hard to come back. What did you appreciate about what you had done to get back? Look back on. The injury and look back on the season You. Know it was very difficult. It was difficult for me mentally Just 'cause I pride myself on improvement every day and every year and you know I keep wanting to work hard at this craft that I love so much and I couldn't do that. You know no, I was Kinda I was bedridden now You know things that was accustomed to doing I appreciate mock I appreciate walking so much more now just because you're not gonNA walk for what a month. For about a month I can walk I was in bed lane down you know just little things It makes you appreciate a little. I thought if, I? You know when I when I had my surgery I had my surgery. I thought if I stayed no tell and I had a good scenery if I could see the beach maybe. It will inspire me out with people outside now making happier actually maybe the President I was looking at these people walking around doing things I can be out there But at the same time, the worst was both of my teammates. You know I had there were points in the season when you know Boga was down to have guys is The. Complex and I felt like I could've helped could help my team out and it just that's the part that was one of the hardest parts because I. You know I'm the first guy and I love this team Oh, these guys are great amazing, and I always wanted to be there. So you know all those things are all things that go through my mind when I think about that season's just. All the work, all the hard work that was split into it every day I'm GonNa do my rehabs. Countless hours I don't even know how many hours even just walking on. Working on walking. You know just walking on the treadmill different things lifting weights then bigger again you know. Trying to lose weight after I came back 'cause. I you know I was stagnant for a long time. You know all these different things I've never been somebody who had problems with their weight you know but just just the whole process was new to me you know I had I was putting all these new situation and new new circumstances I. Deal with and you know it made me stronger. That's for sure because I realized that you know you could come back from a lot of stuff that you can come back to them. You can mind just has to guess. Is there a particular moment during the course of championship season that's kind of ingrained. One moment that's ingrained in your mind for appreciation. Throughout the season I will one moment. Yeah What are the biggest things that I appreciated the season was it was actually in the playoffs I. Think it was well, you could take you could pick either one whether it's the one down to wants to Memphis when we were down to the cavs. And those situations i. think that you know we really showed why we are. We were the best team team being the word of emphasis because. In those moments we sat down to the team we talked we talked it up was like listen. Are, bachelor against the wall. What do we do? And everybody had everybody was kind of I'll call it a come to Jesus moment but it was a it was not a coup by but it was one of those spaces where we sat around and really show by we are not because we we really talked about what the whole game together. critiquing ourselves like listen. We're not playing as a team right now and it was one of the situation nobody nobody took offence to where we all the criticisms just because we understood that. Everybody loves each other everybody. Loves it. So none of the criticism came from a bad place. We decided that we have to be a better team and we showed it became out and we played just like what we talking about the days before. So I think those situations where you know those critical situations for us was warmer than it comes to my mind because you know those could have gone either way I was going to go on southbound quick and you know there's a lot of teams. When they would turn inwards and they will stop fighting against these her. So in those situations where we were really showed the strengthened, the bond that we have as a team. So those are the things that they come to my violin I think by the season, we've got a couple of minutes left and I know one of the advantages and honors was the fact that you got a chance to return to Africa you played for team Africa in the exhibition games. Down there in Africa and you said the fact that I can go back to Africa. As exciting to me. There are a lot of things I WANNA do in the world I WANNA be able to help my country in some way to be able to give back to the continent. This is an exciting first step, and you think that certainly basketball going to find a new frontier down in Africa. When you think back on all the entire experience, what are you left with? I'm very proud of how much the NBA is. It's helping with the situation. Africa you know, I, think that Africa is when you think about Africa you think about poverty and about war in. These different situation but you know I see your different Africa. I've seen a beautiful Africa. I've seen the beautiful people that are working and so I wanNA bring that to light and the NBA has done a really good job and when we were down that we did different charity work camps, you know trying to turn test different people in China trying to set up, affect their lives give opportunities the kids through the game of basketball. and that's those are situations that that that made me really proud to be an NBA because I, think they have been doing a good job of of affecting people's lives down there. Other some funny moments during the course of the championship season that you think about and still laugh a little bit about. Of course, there's a lot of. Know guys all the videos with actually just talking about this earlier. On new video is GonNa be this year, but you see the video games can get on the plane on these long flights back. Then we make these music videos of. Kinda acting the fool on the planes all those kind of moments. Are you know it was a practice moments that I'm glad we're caught on video 'cause in those moments got back at years years years from now. You know how? How stupid we were house money as Jane was and how great a group of guys were. We had we here I read a couple of quotes that really caught my attention and it says A. Lot about you as a person as well as an athlete, you said, my parents worked hard enough to send me to an international school at the school. I learned about different parts of the world I learned to get out of a small town mentality and aspire to be great and I think that's a message that needs to be passed on and everybody needs to take to heart I'm glad that you said that festus you said that. Thank you. Thank you. That was that? was them they they did a good job of of semi at school. They really talked me about all aspects of the world and when I came here it wasn't that much culture shock because of that foundation said so Yeah. That's I think that's great for all kids. They can get out of mentality and know that they can you know the world is is everybody's always the a we have a chance We have the ability to be great with all of this is just you kind of have to? You have to work on lock it. We only have about forty five seconds left. But I'm wondering as you had a chance to watch your championship team especially. The. Ones that that stood out. You know the Klay Thompson, the bogus and others obviously Steph Curry What were you left with? What impressed you the most about them I think they're just you know these guys you see them as good basketball players but they're even better guys. You know steph curry is a great leader for a team Klay Thompson Disease Amazing. He works hard harder than anybody. I've seen here bogut he's a great leader, very, very great mentor for me as well. So you know I think it's off the off the scene things that I appreciate more than you know than the flashy know all these guys they do law they're great player, but I think what impresses me more is the it's just that they're great guys and they do their best around here it's leaders and. the various bar fastest I wanNA. Thank you very much for sharing your life story as well as your career and the championship that the warriors one in two thousand fifteen take my friend. Thank you very much bigger. Best is easily with us. We continue across the country and around the world with you on America's sports talk show. And now today's rusty eating tip of the day presented by free all deep penetrating oil. You're all set for a quick tire rotation until you have a rusted on wheel coach does Lug nuts and penetrating oil. Let them sit for a few minutes and you'll have them often essential. 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And is wiggins joins us on sports byline former WNBA guard who played eight seasons five with the Minnesota Lynx after an all America career at Stanford, and she is one of only seven players to be a four time. All American. Player in women's basketball and she was the third overall pick in the WNBA draft and she wanted wnba championship with Minnesota. You know you played basketball for a long time and I'm just wondering was it hard for you to take off that WNBA uniform for the last time? I actually made my decision to retire in a very. You know very differently than most athletes do so I the last time I took the Jersey off I actually thought would be putting it back on so but you know I did I did cherish because I played in New York New York liberty my last season and Madison Square Garden, which is the Mecca for basketball. So I really felt like I, was on top of Mount, Everest and every single time I went into the locker room every time that I got to the garden I just worshipped every second of it. So you know taking the Jersey off every every game taking off was you know I didn't waste a single second When I take a look at your basketball career and I mean just not in college or in high school where you had great success or in the WNBA. But when you were young, you are in the first grade you scored thirty points against fourth graders in basketball, and by the time that you were in the fifth grade, you had to play on the boys. Team. So you could play at a competitive level. Tell me a little bit about that. That bug that bitch you about basketball uh-huh. Well, for me I was like Turkey stories about how fast my dad was and I remember you know my only memories of him were like baseball cards and one baseball card I flipped it over and it said the manager said looking. Man I've ever seen on too late and so that gave me and power me when I was little I was saying you know my dad was the fastest man. So I just felt like I could I was really fast. I've used my speed and my speed became a weapon and you know all the other skills they caught up to me but my feet I would get still scored layup that's house able to get thirty. Thirty, two points I scored. It was all sixteen lamps off still you know. So that's how I found my success. You know I just I really relied on my natural speed, and then as you know I started understanding that skills and understanding how important those were developed. You know, and then my my game just took off and elevated to to another level. What was the difference in age between you and your brother Alan Junior. Allen is about seventeen months older than me. So we were just a great apart in school and we played together all the way up until high school and you know he was we were just so closely almost like twins and Illinois he was a really vital part of my dissolve as well. I was GonNa ask you what those backyard games or one on one games where like between UNLV and well, we have different memories. Isn't remember. Remember listening to me I remember we would play in competing everything. He had this huge backyard and we had a basketball court in our front yard. We you know we were very privileged, and so we would make these games, all these different types of games we play all day long but when basketball it was just it was really really serious and it would would happen would start the game to go be the game of go to twenty and then someone can we played thirty then we played a forty nine fifty like we've literally just keep going because you know one of us just couldn't take. So the game was never over. In the next morning, we wake up in the game but still happening. So that's how that works when you were young you had to deal with a couple of tragedies one when you were three years old, you were hit by a car and almost lost one of your eyes, and of course, then a year later, your dad passed away a age but let me ask you about the first one and I've always found in talking to athletes that have gone through challenges in their life particularly physical ones that really steal them in their character. Am I correct about that when it comes to you about the your dad and that accident? Yes for sure and the thing about the accident a lot of people don't really understand is that you know I, really came close to death and and I remember the fear that I felt I was run over by the car and you know for me what it was it was it was really I don't remember much of it. I. Remember Waking Up in the hospital a week later and my dad actually got meetings balloons and just feeling like life was you know was just flooding is a bag of jelly beans but what it did was I it made me not. So fearful. So when I played, I was five years old playing against then fourth graders I remember you know the fear of the game being a be able able to be more aggressive because I didn't have that fear holding me back. You know once you're that close to death and you know you just you just kind of have this different attitude about you. So I think that really helped me get over all my fears and even now people probably wonder like how can a little girl her you know small and skinny play the WB when there's so many strong. Women and I. Think a lot of is just you know my fears I I I got. You know I was fearless at a young age. Did you assimilate the death of your dad to AIDS? Well, it was difficult and I sa- I. I was trying to find questions I. Mean I because a lot of the adults the time the everybody was in panic mode I mean everybody this was eleven months before Freddie Mercury died from AIDS. So nobody had any idea of how this happened for me. I would just hear things but I didn't really understand it wasn't until I saw reader's Digest Article I picked it up it was just sitting there and I read I put in five years old I could. Read it at seventh grade reading level I was. So I could actually understand a little bit of the words and You know it does the article title was Big Derek Cocaine lost and that registered with me I didn't understand the story I tried my best. It was very hard language but that title you know I understood that you know his drug use was ultimately you know the I I understood that but then it wasn't until grade I really learned about what drugs were. You want said it was a scary. Time. No. One would talk about it. A younger a wants to know about her dad dying of AIDS but it was taboo. Indeed it was that time was there any help for you I mean did you turn to anybody specifically to try to get a better understanding of what happened? No unfortunately, that was the problem that was a completely even say the F. Word before you'd say aids at the time literally would got hard to say so I really just like I said on on clues that you. Know and a big thing that happened in nineteen ninety five that was great. WAS TLC the girl group when favorite grow they had a song waterfalls and I guess in the song I found out just through people talking because no one was really addressing things I found out that the second versus the song with discussing about HIV does something and it was implications of AIDS, and so that was I'd watch the music video I mean the TLC waterfalls music over like the only reference I really had at that point. You. Went to Stanford you chose that over Duke and UCLA, there is a different culture on the Stanford campus. I certainly know about it having been there play by play announcer on the men's side for football and basketball. What was it that made you choose Stanford over the other two schools oh I think ultimately I went and visited all the schools on my own that my mother I made. Sure. My Mother did not come because I knew was going to be going to college with me. So that was a big thing. Was Me being alone understanding where I felt most comfortable being alone and I still do it but something just told me that you know it was so far away and and in there was really difficult because I wasn't really sure how I I had A. Little bit anxiety being by myself in North Carolina and then going to, Stanford, it was like the complete opposite experience. My brother went to University of San Francisco. So I actually got to visit with him on my visit and go to practice and understand exactly how close I would be with him and I think that was a really important thing and then just being on the campus you know. Feeling that the honestly really the biggest reason why the because I got accepted and there was the only school that I had to apply to and I think it accepted. I they had to accept me before I could accept them. So when you get into stance where you know it's just it's just such a great honor that you and it took me six months to finish my applications so Once I got accept it was almost like you know it just felt like this was special place. Ucla and do great schools but I didn't have to apply to get in I had to apply accepted to. Stanford. So that's on the special to me. You know when you think about coaches on the men's and the women's side Mica Chef Ski Roy Williams you think Gino Auriemma with the University of Connecticut and then you think of Tara Vanderveer she falls into that exclusive group as well. What's the commonality? Do you think all great and successful coaches Well, I think that is definitely one of a kind she's special in in every sense of the word but I. Think traditionally makes coaches make that they have a very strong perspective stick to it. They have they have a a position they have a and they stay with it. You know they whatever they say whatever they believe they execute and people know what they're getting from. You know there's a consistency factor. There's a discipline factor what sets Tara part though 'cause I can't speak on the other great coaches that I haven't been coach by what I. Can say about her is she puts in the work the hours and hours and hours she watches so much tape she studied. She studied more. That's all she does in her whole entire life. Her whole life is about studying watching film and seeing how she can get better understanding. You know the the game and and and always looking for ways to expand her horizons. But I I was never even aware how much watching video watching tape I mean she'll watch tape on a practice every day you know and she got in that habit and really understanding when we see your the game, you you understand it better and she studied that she doesn't rely on her own instinct. You know as well as I do there is a big difference between the college game and I'm not talking about. The fact that you get paid, I'm talking more about the home all atmosphere, all that atmosphere around the pro game. You were third overall pick in the draft by Minnesota win a championship with them as well. At least college. If you're a talented player, you know you're going to be some place for four years in the pros in you know you could be gone on the game before how did you find that transition to the pro ranks? Oh Man. Okay. Well, first of all, when I got drafted, it was the day after the championship game which we played in. So just literally woke up in the WNBA you know I was asleep in college and they woke up into me. So it was a very odd transition from me but you know it was it was an adjustment you have to just trust your things you have to trust yourself, be coughing it and yourself because you know there's a lot of factors around you that are pointy all these different ways and there's just so many ways you. Can thank you have so many choices you have so much freedom and one of the day it's a business and the locker room is your office and you have to take that approach and you know, I mean I think I transitioned well. But at the same time, there's there's GonNa. Be Circumstances that are out of your control that like you said earlier, you know the college, you have a little bit more controlling more of a stable environment whereas in the professional world you know it's just it's open. You know you also played overseas in in Athens as well. Right? And yes, and also an issue. In, Israel, yeah, that overseas experience I've had my friends the men who played overseas and they've told me that especially in places like Greece that they make more money from the coins being thrown onto the floor than they do yourself. I wish I could play in vine those teams. Wasn't quite like that for for me in in the countries but yeah no, I think I it depends every year is different and I think it just depends on the world economy right now I don't think the economy is so great. So it's not that much money to me overseas but certainly when I was playing there, there was definitely you know money. To go around and I was fortunate to find great teams that were successful and you know that always helps in overseas winning is matters. You know they're very very serious about that so that the price tag comes with you know you have to perform. Well, my friend told me it went from being thrown on the Florida nickels and dimes. So that confirms your. We only have a couple of minutes left candice but when you think back and playing basketball one of the memories that stick in your mind. Well, I, you know reflecting now it's different when you're when you're in it, you kind of have a different opinion but I would say, my best, my best memories are the fondest memories I have was playing with my boys team in my when I was twelve and thirteen years old rising star in San Diego because I didn't realize how many guys that I played. Against growing up are in the NBA now, I really just you know it, it takes almost like lifetime. You realize you know where all your hard work goes to but I think playing with the boys was definitely set the foundation for the player and the person that I became and just really understanding gender equality and respecting that and and being able to. You know and and just in general what I love about playing basketball how much it? You know on the court you can you it transcends everything in like no matter where you come from the matter what your background is, there is a common language that is being you know expressed and on the court and I think. That's really a beautiful thing that cherish. Now we got about realize we've got about thirty seconds left but if my memory serves me correctly, you're a communications major, you're going to go ahead and proceed down that path in life now. Oh. Yeah, for sure you know I really excited about about the opportunities that I have now and you know I'm really taking it a day at a time. This decision to retire was you know it it? It's it's a whole new life experience from me. Now, I'm just taking it ahead of time, but you definitely can that that I'll be using. This communication degree well, if we can help you in any way just please let us know candace good to catch up with you again congratulations not only on your outstanding college career but also your career in the WNBA and I'm glad that you had such a good time and it was a positive thing for you and your life. Thank you my friend. Thanks so much for having me it's such an honor to be speaking with you candice wiggins with us again former wnba Garner played eight seasons five with Minnesota, and that's where she won the W NBA Championship. But that was after a fine career and all America career when she was at Stanford University, of course with Tara Vanderveer and the other talented players they went to a number of championship games we continue across the country and around the world with you want sports byline. Hello and welcome back to the Ronnie. 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It was the first round draft pick for the warriors and he grew up in Nigeria. One of six children and he also graduated from high school when he was just fourteen years. He went onto play his basketball at Vanderbilt University and Candice Wiggins with us as well. Former WNBA guard who played eight seasons five with Minnesota all American career at Stanford in his one of only seven players to be a four time all American in the women's basketball action and she also wanted wnba championship with Minnesota. I'm Ron Bar. Thanks for being a part of America's sports talk show. I'm Jeff, rich host of sports overnight America's foul territory. Stay up late with my wife and I for a little bit of sports and a whole lot of snark if it's out of play by day, it's on foul territory. League listen weeknights at ten Pacific right here on the sports byline broadcast networks rich air. 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Dot Org ask our Jeffrey and Jen Ridge with you from Phoenix Arizona Busy Day in sports We had a lot going on on Wednesday but also a lot happened on Thursday as well. the Miami he took a lead in their series the Tampa Bay lightning totally nurseries That was Wednesday Wednesday was for. The before. and. Then Thursday we had the we had no Florida participation up baseball but we had the Lakers and the Denver Nuggets play game for. This compelling I have been a little more exciting to me of the Doug would have been able to take a lead and you know win the game is even the series but did not work out that way. What do Ya I jet? Pretty good expand on it. You're doing good. Well, we got our to expand on everything that I'm saying you as the open. This is just the beginning of the show. This is it is not a three minute podcast everyone Yeah. We we've got basketball. 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Yeah. which way leaning if yeah if you had to pick between North and South Dakota and and even this country has a problem with doing just that. But if you had to pick between North and South Dakota, who would you pick? I make based on the hardiness of his beard. I'M GONNA go with North. A heartier beards north? Yeah. Yeah. It's cold up there and kind of you know more like inish. Okay if I told, you was one of those states or Montana would you change your answer they all the same state? However, if I told you, it was a all three of those states where Arizona would you pick one of those states? Now. You which one would you cross. Arizona Yourself Arizona would make you rog again still. Prices wrong rich. So. He's actually from Gilbert Arizona the high. School. He went to Harvard. Now, that's what everybody knows about him before your the the beard got the sits magic nickname, which which is really funny because they call him the amish rifle like I don't Miss Rifles, he from Pennsylvania, or Ohio where the the Amish Rome? Don't know history from. Actually from. I feel like that would have came up at slant some point like shouldn't we have heard about this? I would think so I think that's a primary difference between where I'm from and where I live. Because if somebody's even Phraya somebody visited Cleveland when they like a sophomore in high school like a class trapped. The Cleveland News would be all over it follow that person his entire career. I vessel Trubisky, curry haunt Lebron James Desmond Howard Elvis Gir- back etcetera etcetera. Verve. Yeah. Surveys on uplink. Brad homeless from Arizona. You really talked about anyways UCLA. People forget that. People in populations. In Arizona The Grand Canyon and then wasted void desert land what happened for years and years would be young people not on Lake, at you and I when we were younger would move Tarazona dude get a little bit of a taste of it. They you know they'd get sick the summers after three or four years. And they moved back. So you have this, yell the this adult Utopia of twenty part time twentysomethings and you didn't really have the family communities like Gilbert Arizona was just you're way out where you live if you're a single young person or a single person in general way too far away from bars restaurants fun stuff you want to be on your young well, they did was they made those communities very family friendly and they're you know they're far from the metropolis but it's worth living there because they've created everything that you need except for the things that you would go into the city for and it's Nali gets far. You're talking like it's an hour drive to get into Phoenix. It's like twenty miles. Yeah. Traffic it can take you an hour but on a day when everyone's paying attention and using the freeways like the sure you should be able to get there in about twenty minutes. So eventually, Ryan Fitzpatrick obviously made it out of Gilbert he went to Cambridge Massachusetts where. One of the two ways out of Phoenix to get some Massachusetts. Probably with what via Sky Harbor, airport or roadways he drove out of seventeen out on ten out of Phoenix. To Harvard if any really never looked back I guess he comes back because he's plead for. Teams Are you? Would you say that Right Fitzpatrick is plain or? Throughout his career nine, nine teams, nine teams, nine teams. What's how many teams is he actually played for? ABLADE FOR LOUIS THE RAMS One. Cincinnati Blair River Plane Cincinnati that's too. He was Buffalo Nine to twenty twelve that's three. Will Stop over in Tennessee in two thousand thirteen. That's four. Twenty fourteen with Houston that's five. The jets from Twenty fifteen through twenty sixteen. that six Tampa Bay in seventeen and eighteen. Seven and the Miami Dolphins make eight. He's been there since check notes twenty nineteen, I think just last season. Yeah. Yeah. So Eighteen is that I thought I had read nine, but that was definitely eight that you listed off. That's eight teams eighteen eighteenth Harvard would be nine highland heights. By the end of this season he will. He will have played for a ninth team noisy to stick with Miami Miami's can have a chance to to win the AFC east that you know they. They were competitive with New England. They were. Competitive. Again, in the end, at least with the buffalo bills are two really good football teams. Jacksonville's not a very good football team and they obliterated the dolphins obliterated them fitzpatrick was fifteen I seventeen. I think he finished eighteen twenty hour. They didn't really need much Jacksonville just kept giving them the ball in their own territory. One thing I want to talk about is we have play in the third quarter. I was actually the probably the play that. Ended the game for Jacksonville effectively they were down. Twenty one seven to begin with and garment shoe on his own seven yard line coughed up the football mad scramble for the ball like seventy four game Robinson had the ball off at first glance Miami is recovering, and then you find out that not only did he not recover the football but he committed a penalty that gave. The author of all, half the distance choline and he found himself saw taking inertly shower because they throw them out of the game for quote unquote making contact with a referee. I am I understanding what transpired there by saying that he saw hand come down and he smacked it away because the twenty there were twenty people laying on the ground and you're trying to get away from each other. He snacked a hand away and he did not know it was a referee I am not. A hand coming towards my chest area because it looked like the rough was literally about to lean on his chest and use him as talents. I don't know to pull somebody else off maybe scam backup himself. But. I don't I don't handle anyone else. Yeah. You're not putting hands on me and you're specifically not coming anywhere near my neck or chest either I'm going to Swat you away. That's just a regular role human. Reaction Yeah, this room movie The spiel getting tapped on the shoulder throwing your arm backwards, and then he'll you throat you end up throwing your backwards into a cop and ended up in handcuffs. What happened to Cam Robinson? Well, we need is for some oversight. Czar of Common Sense you at the League office ruined the press box somewhere where they communicate with the officials to say, Hey, you guys got that wrong and you way over punished a non crime and you put Garner Menchu at further risk. By taking away his starting left tackle I completely disagree with it. I think that there needs to be some type of protocol where when you get that wrong making contact with the official technically yes. But in the spirit of that rule that leads to an automatic ejection absolutely, not I have big problems with that L. River on needs to fix that and fix that quickly. She's general. Jeff it's foul territory sports overnight America will be right. Back. To throw it has time on the pocket Era Sean. Jackson. Why He's got a Mexico be. touched. By the thirty Jordan Ruth third and fourteen that depends bedrick winds upside, our jerseys hits book. God. Penalties on the Hash marks tell the Pittsburgh. Twelve twenty yards pickups. Fitz. Through that. In the case of all those rushers. This is sports overnight America. Attention to anyone that's written a book wants to write a book. The process is not that complicated take first step. Even if you write a page a day you build momentum and your book will become a reality. The hard part is getting it published. 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Miami versus Jacksonville Beard Versus Mustache and Ryan Fitzpatrick and the dolphins able to take care of the Jaguars thirty, one, thirteen on the court. In the NBA we had game four of the Western. conference. Finals were Denver fell back three games to one in the series losing one fourteen to one zero, eight the Lakers in major league. Baseball on the American League Boston avoided getting shut out by Baltimore Thirteen to nothing by scoring one Kansas City edged out Detroit eight, two, seven the astros are now one win. Away from grabbing the last playoff spot in the AL rest after beating the Rangers fall to four Cleveland rallies in the seventh to complete the four-game sweep of the white sox five to four final there and the Blue Jays clinched their first playoff spot in four years after four one win over the Yankees in the National League. Miami is still staying alive in the playoff hunt after defeating Atlanta Florida to two cardinals, beat the brewers or the to the cops. Bats continue to remain silent in seven to nothing shutout by the pirates. Colorado Todd Francisco, five to four after eleven innings and the match at the nationals three two. One game and only action between the ages of the dodgers where La Tallied up their fortieth win of the six game season with a win five to one win over the as no hockey tonight at Tampa Bay in Dallas game four tomorrow. So that's it. But Jeff Everyone is foul territory sports. Overnight America at baseball is getting down to that time where. The American League game with the Blue Jays clinching. Used in a are going to be very, very difficult to see them. Not The you know not wrap things up and get that second spot in the AL asked the Cleveland Minnesota and. The White Sox all jockeying for position in the American League, Central Division, and obviously that's the area of highest interest me when it comes to baseball Twins have own that division for the last year change a white sox made a little surge at it twins an Indians both got cold in August, but usually you could recover from one hundred and sixty two game season. But you know five, six, seven, eight game losing streaks they they hurt you a lot more in a sixty game season. It really went quick. flew by and in three days that'll be over now. Well, the regular season we over where and a half or we have more teams in the playoffs but we're not necessarily getting more plant offs right a we're going to get a wildcard instead of getting to wild card games. Or getting. Eight series. We're going to have a one, eight, two, seven, three, six, and four, five in both the American National League seating doesn't really matter I mean matters a lot to be in that top four to get a home series in the first round. home field advantage being the home team. Even if you don't have home field advantage matters a lot baseball because as you saw from the Cleveland in Chicago series. Sky Of the American league sort obviously, this week they'd have in your last offices is a big deal. Wraps regulation or does actions especially if he goes x ratings show only habit goes man on second. Damage I, there's a couple of ways to look at that. I I think the you're you look at it is you get the you get a grand opportunity to strike I. Once you score that run you foot at a tremendous amount of pressure on the other team not only to. Reciprocate with at least a run of their own but. Limit the damage to just one because lots of that run across the plate pitching with runners on base for relief pitcher that's used to coming in and getting a cleaning to not only have them on base but to have him on second base where you can't keep your eye out him where basically he's GonNa score on any type ahead. It's I. Think it's a challenge. So so here's what we have or this central race. You have the twins at thirty four winds. They've got three with the reds. Reds are playing. You know to get that second place spot in the et Al Central of course at this point, you have to wonder if the cubs even are even interested in actually winning the division, they clinched playoff spot they've been in the driver's seat in that Ashley Central Division All Year. Long? And they're just have you know they had three chances with the pirates to clinch the division. And That doesn't happen to get swept by the worst team in baseball with absolutely nothing to play for. Have you been defend that. This is exactly why I hate this time of year. You have to root for teams that you don't like to win to help your team clinch or make it to the playoffs you. Team doesn't just disintegrate and decide not to play any more. It's so fun until it's not fun anymore. So here's. Any the idiots to be to better than the twins. This weekend idiots have the pirates at home twins have the RAD's. Basically the stick one three of the sweep or they have to be swept if the idiots take two three I I'm not holding out I'm not holding my breath for Cleveland to win the division I would like to see them past the white sox after the work that they put it against the White Sox, you have to figure the white SOX ARE GONNA be in one of two modes either just out in quicksand just incomplete panic mode where they won't be able to function. Or Yell they're going to put Cleveland behind them their take on the cubs. Series is outsider up at Wrigley. No idea. Okay. I don't look ahead at stuff I'm the data time I hear you I, hear you. So three games in Chicago cubs, white sox cubs have a chance to clinch in front of the white sox and the white sox have a chance to still take down that division. They gotta be game better than the twins because of what happened to them in Cleveland Clinton's only got to gain better than the white sox so you know you have. CLEVELAND. Launch. Shot twins the favorite twits taking on the reds. White Sox, take another cubs, idiots digging another pirates interleague play at a critical time. They used to live this up so that you always had division games so that they were very, you know the the the critical matchups lined up at the end of the season. Yeah. I was surprised to see that we had an early games because. Writing stuff out I'd try to keep it as organized as possible. There'll be no inter league the last week of play and surprise down. A lot of interleague play the. Cardinals and the BREWERS they're. GonNa. Play five times over the last Four days of the season here and doubleheader on Friday. Then there's still going to leave the the cardinals three-game short of sixty ad, the brewers, a game short of sixty I don't really think that falls within the boundaries of fair. If you. If you go by winning percentage, you go total wins and you punish them for not playing enough games I've kind of on board with that. They. Haven't got any kind of punishment. But you punish a bunch of teams who had a much doubleheaders that shouldn't have had a play doubleheaders because you had teams a protocol. Hickories that both the cardinals and the Marlins or alive I mean you just have to be in the top half the league. But to probe for them to. have to play all these doubleheaders add to not really come out worse for the wear. Not they had like their own little all-star break week that nobody else got where they had seven to ten days to just kinda literally chill because they could not do anything else. Well, the one of the things they couldn't do is breathe if they had the if they had their own I, doubt. Remember hearing any cases from the MLB of any of the covert outbreaks any of them were that serious. Okay. So Astros still looking to get in are still trying to figure out second and third place and the seventh and eighth and wild card spots in the National League out throw break a lot of talk about on the other side she general Jeff it's file territory sports overnight America back. Land. Bach. Getting assigned for. Her wit stand-in. Wind up here Tom. Why Senate bail manny coming. Third. Barco. Does. Go Out Glenn Beck a bank surrounded the Pale. Baseball, history here tonight, you're listening to foul territory with Jeff and Jen Rich Scott his mind with. Turkeys could. 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To have a bay over the Dallas Stars and that's it feels like it's Kinda go when I'm on the peripheral like it's going on in the background not a lot of buzz surrounding this Stanley Cup between the stars enlightening now. I didn't I I like hockey and even I'm Kinda. And then knowing that there's still another round after after these finals. Or another whole round after. No. there. Come. Before. Okay. Good. There can't be any more after this like I'm ready for hockey to another I'm gonNA. Put It on the circumstances I'm GonNa put it on the fact that it's not June that it's you know that it's going against football and up pretty exciting stretch run in baseball and You know the basketball players always got the bathroom. Parallel basketball has after this round another. Yeah. A final. Hour we're only you know we gotta get rid of two teams in level then teams play for the model. Yeah. Okay. That's what it is. I'm like no one someone still has another whole whole series left and I wish that Y- you feel like I've caught important parts of the Miami Boston series but I haven't watched whole games. I. Definitely haven't watched all games of the nuggets and Lakers 'cause it's really all about the fourth or whatever happened whoever wins the fourth quarter generally wins the game. The other night, we saw the Lakers furiously come back the nuggets were you know nuggets were in the driver's seat most of the game and they almost let it get you know they almost let it fall apart at the Ad they ended up being able to put together a run of their own at the end They were really not so fortunate and trying to make a run athlete. It was like the Lakers just had this six point lead that. Was Kinda Kinda Gumby. Ish, and a flexible. It can fluctuate down to two, and then they grow it back to nine and every time the nuggets got close. We'd get a chance to take lead. On the Lakers were denying them the opportunity to you know in one possession games, nuggets would have the bothered bring it down the floor and the the Lakers would give them one bad shot at the end of the shock they took joker out they took Jamal out you know. Theoretically. Took them out of the game and the nuggets are just such A. One trick. Pony. with that, pick a role that they run with Murray and Yokich that. You took that way and they just didn't have going on Morris. The the the other guard there you know the slack played really well at the defensive end of the floor Ford. Even when Denver out the defense stops, they get a missed shot. It'd be a warren rebound and you got Anthony Davis about thirteen feet tall who just be able to swat it back to whether Lakers guards in the backward and that was that just denied diversity opportunities they they might have had it's it's really difficult to cut into a lead when you give the favorite three shock lax and you don't get a possession to trade off for for any of those and That's how you end up down. I mean it wasn't like out of time. They could've played another fourteen minutes in that game and Lakers would have just teased them. The entire I are hard time seeing. Come. Back from three one, a couple of times now. I just I don't think the third time charm. Today they've looked a little little less spunky than they did the other night village beat the other night I'm Mike. Now might. This is what they needed. They needed to kind of fall back to pull ahead but. Yeah, Kinda Kinda with the little little tired worn down today I just gonNA Lakers eat. We could be crazy jerk that was completely wrong about everything the depending on the we got plays out by. Lakers finals in Florida I don't know the being in Florida is any particular advantage for the the floor of the he any more than it was for the Orlando Magic do are obviously no longer playing. Interesting that the Games of at least been a little bit entertaining it's not the battle of L. A. and that takes a little bit away from it You know the East is completely out we thought it was going to be. So we could have a you know we can have. We're definitely a surprise team of some sort from the east. There's much surprised coming out of the West we have. We thought it was like all. It'd be kind of fun if the Lakers played the heat and it went to seven games and when the final seconds of game seven. And the Braun does something to mess it up in the heat end up winning and the heat celebrate Lebron finally, giving him giving them another one of the I don't know like seven titles he still owes them not seven. Three. Not Four. Five not six not seven. Just. Because the youtube clip cut off I mean. You probably to like Saturday morning with. That yeah. I. Think that'd be a fun scenario and then Miami would have one more one more championship that they were promised. All right It's a football weekend obviously and we've got. We've got a full slate. I mean I don't think that we're into the by weeks just yeah. We have Miami and Jacksonville get those teams out of the way on Thursday night. I'm good with that Primetime Games Green Bay at New Orleans Sunday night football. I. Think That's interesting but if Thomas doesn't play for the saints, I, think the Green Bay is just going to wipe the floor with the new, Orleans in their own house and then Kansas City in Baltimore as you're going to be dubbed the Super Bowl before the super bowl on. Monday night football ad I'm going to be a big chief's Fan on Monday night I'm GonNa tell you that right now I don't want them to go undefeated but I definitely don't want them to lose the Baltimore Ravens and and I don't want there to be any threat to Baltimore going undefeated at any played this season. Instant. Squash that now. All right. So in the valley we are going to on CBS WE'RE GONNA get the Las Vegas at New England game. Let's that the Tony Romo type of game very small pockets of the country. Basically, the local markets are going to get the at Texans and the steelers and I had mentioned to you earlier. It's kind of a brutal start they gave the Houston Texans but they had to play the. Chiefs. And then they got the Ravens at home and then I gotta go play the Pittsburgh steelers in Pittsburgh that is a rough start but. The baseball. Team cheated store ulcer. So screw yeah right yeah. Sorry guys. City is tainted. The should have played Baltimore every week for what they did in baseball TESSIE MINNESOTA You're going to get that get that actually in both Dakotas a good part of Montana. You're going to get that Game Wisconsin. You're going to get that game in parts of Illinois that are not Chicago and you're going to get that the Detroit and Toledo as well. Abby Philadelphia really you're GONNA get fat in the Cincinnati Philadelphia areas only the jets and Indianapolis when you're leaking. Basically, local markets only and Carolina and the Los Angeles chargers out one very much local markets only then Fox. In the early slot we're looking at rams in buffalo here in the in the Phoenix Market that's going to be your southern California game, Vegas Game All of Utah All of Colorado that what's the square of Colorado Wyoming? Wyoming, Idaho, and most of Montana getting going to get the rams and Buffalo. So unike an exchange with our pen pals in Boise and Missoula. About. The Rams and the Buffalo Bills Good check of the country's GonNa actually get the. BROWNS and Washington game will be played in Cleveland Washington. Market Cleveland Market Pittsburgh. All of West Virginia all of New Mexico, all of taxes, all of Oklahoma, and a good check Arkansas. So a lot of exposures Lulu tries to move to chew in one Most of the country's GonNa get Dallas in Seattle. That's Joe. Buck and Troy Aikman who called Miami Jacksonville game on Thursday night WE'RE GONNA GET DETROIT NEAR own because we're in Arizona. Nevada. Utah Colorado New Mexico. Good Chunk of Wyoming a little bit of Montana. Just South Dakota North Dakota South Dakota Kinda split on the Fox Lake Game I in South Dakota, they're going to get the Tampa Bay Denver game in. North. Dakota. They'RE GONNA get Dallas and Seattle and I basically state. Data. Michigan and states of Arizona are going to get Detroit and Arizona. So late game we are actually we've got what five league games in Seattle Denver Arizona Indianapolis and at the chargers version of the L. A. Stadium? College. Football. Other really of a much note the SEC's going to kick off you're going to get Mississippi State and Lsu is your game of the week on CBS Florida State and Miami is your Prime Time Game Notre Dame and wake forest because of public. Health concerns. Question for Ya just wondered if you were aware of the Notre Dame and wake forest, they're going to be postponed but they have a mutually agreeable make updates somewhere thirdly yeah. They Games going to get played Elsewhere College Football Florida and Ole Miss, Texas, and Texas Tech Kansas and Oklahoma nothing really to doesn't really get all that excited about in the in college football world if he gets definitely if choosing between Saturday week in a Sunday week. Sundays the day to stay in and watch football. You got a lot of things that are going to. Kinda. They're gonNA. Be Flash points for the season but I have a feeling invaded teams that win lose we're going to go in very opposite directions I in week three especially those teams that are into you you follow and three you start thinking about the draft you start thinking about next season. Did I'm not mentioned the bears the bears other there at Atlanta Yeah. Like I don't remember you mentioning them but they're not gonNA show a complain who and sit doesn't matter. Wall there to it older Atlanta in. ATLANTA. Lucky to know I. DO think that Atlanta response to what happened at the end of the Dallas game beating the crap out of the next team they play. Could you say that if they weren't playing the bears or just say that I wouldn't matter an airplane? I I mean you would think that they would have that chip on their shoulder after the super. Will they just don't have that THAT EDGE TO THEM Maybe, they're a very technical team. That plays void of emotion which should mean it doesn't really make a difference whether they're down and out or they're up twenty, eight, three at halftime. It's gotTA. Be You know I just think that maybe they just they don't they don't get too high up and they don't get too far down which makes them susceptible to collapses and allowing the comebacks and then now bouncing back video let there ain't no not getting angry and just staying level headed. You know that might be their milk does nature. That's what I think when I look at Matt Ryan I don't get excited about Matt Ryan leading any Comeback Sir Dan Quayle you'll even Julio Jones is just kind of byproduct of Marines boringness. I I don't know I think that Chick-fil-a to open a at the Atlanta stadium only on Sunday. If only give the Falcons something, you know something to talk about but they got put fans in the stadium before you can talk about feeding them chick-fil-a and Chick-fil-a on a Sunday at. All right. She's gender rich. I'm Jeff Rich. It's filed territory it sports overnight. America we'll be right back to wrap up the hour right after the break. You're listening to sports overnight America those with me. How about you urine urine urine. Attention timeshare owners. This is an urgent consumer art from Timeshare Exit Hotline a National Company specializing in helping consumers legally get out of their expensive timeshare contracts. We're offering you a way to legally get rid of your timeshare. 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We WanNA give a shout out to our Matt Scott on the other side of the class in San Francisco California producing a great show for US each and every night of the week reminder that you can catch gender rich and yours truly jeff rich four nights a week Monday through Thursday at ten PM Pacific Time GO CHECK OUT JEFF RICH TALKS DOT COM for archives of the shows and few things to get in here in the last couple of minutes Jen College Football Seven Games from the PAC twelve looks like that starting in November they've had all summer. They've had all spring to work this out on an embarrassment but saving grace of they're playing at least seven even without fans. Thought, we were going to get it before Halloween. So to go to November sixth is. Just wait till January. It's kind of a fumble on the part of the pack twelve nobody wanted to play in January with them. So they're play each other and then not really have any a kind of say in the national picture that would have hurt them down the Road Mountain West got their act together literally eight games and they're gonNA start actually at the end of. October bowls are not going to have any type of criteria. So there's no such thing as bowl eligibility here in the twenty twenty season and Alex Gordon. The longtime Kansas City Roya feels like he's been them forever because he played noma and before that he played at the University of Nebraska University. So I after fourteen seasons, Alex Gordon going to hang them up and that is just One less at-bat I've gotTA. Worry about from the Kansas City, royals in what would otherwise be meaningless baseball games So we had So we've we're working our way into the NBA finals working our way towards somebody being the Stanley Cup champion and we're GONNA have our playoff field set when we come back to the air on one day. For Gen Rich, I'm jeff rich is fall territory on sports overnight America. Stay. Tuned for more sports next hour on sports talk. Yet. This is sports overnight. America. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty percents and our news. This stream supported by advertisers and contributions by. Follow us on facebook twitter and INSTAGRAM's. Public Service going newscast for September twenty. Fifth Twenty Twenty I'm Mike Clifford House Democrats preparing a new smaller corona virus relief package expected to cost about two point four trillion dollars as try to forge ahead with talks with the trump administration a source familiar with the plan said Thursday that from reporting from CNBC. They note the bill would include enhanced unemployment insurance direct payments to Americans, paycheck, protection program, small business, loan funding, and airlines along other provisions to reach the price. Tag Democrats would chop roughly a trillion dollars from their previous proposal for a fifth pandemic aid plan. C. Says the forty aims to restore stills to go. She's with the White House after talks fell apart last month. The Future of Montana's vote by mail option for the November election could be decided any day now after legal challenge wrapped up this week in. Federal Court. President Donald, trump, and other republican groups sued the state over Governor Steve Bullock's decision to let counties use mail in ballots to help keep voters safe during the pandemic two. Gop Claims Mail in voting is subject to fraud but Nancy Lifer with the Montana League of women. Voters refutes that idea and says lawsuits like this caused confusion and could influence some folks not to vote this kind of thing throws suspicion into people's minds about well, oh. Gosh is it Really Safer. Isn't it and of course, the thing about Montana is Montana has a very, very safe voting system and there's absolutely no reason to be questioning it. Forty five of the state's fifty six counties have opted to offer a mail in ballot US District Judge? Dana Christensen promises to make a speedy decision in the case before the Tober, night deadline to send out all the mail in ballots I'm Diane. Bernard. A twenty seventeen state report found that allegations of. Mail in voter fraud during a Montana special that year were inflated and represented only a small portion of the votes were actually cast. So folks in Michigan convicted of drug offenses facing lifelong punishments under the law that are not directly related to their crimes. The State permanently bans those would felony convictions from two or more separate drug related crimes from food assistance available under the federal. Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program State Senate, Minority Leader Juvenile of Flint introduced a bill to. Repeal. The ban he contends it's a matter of fairness as no other crime triggers such denial dangling food over person's head and taken away from their family and their children are themselves. They're trying to reform themselves and get out of a dangerous cycle seems to me to be unusually cruel and unnecessary data show full eligibility for snap benefits reduces the probability that someone with a drug conviction will return to prison within a year by about thirteen percent. This is PMS. Arkansas poverty rate twenty download over the past few years. But since pandemic has been a sharp rise and hardship across the state according to the latest data from the Census Bureau's American community survey between two thousand, eighteen in two thousand nineteen Arkansas's poverty rate dipped slightly to sixteen point, two percent and median household income increased senior policy analyst at the Arkansas, Center for children and. Families, Bruno showers says the data offers a scenario that paints a bleak picture for residents especially Black Latino indigenous and immigrant households hardest hit by the corona virus or federal delegation really needs to step up when one quarter of ARKANSANS are having trouble paying rent when more than one in five or having trouble eating their kids he says housing relief is a critical issue the survey. Found this summer eighteen percent of Arkansans who live in rental housing reported they were behind on rent twenty, nine percent are behind on their mortgage payments for public news service. I'm Nadia. Ramlogan. According to that survey fourteen percent of adults report of their household sometimes or often didn't have enough to eat the American Red Cross store offering covid nineteen antibody tests of select areas in June. Trying to pinpoint the number of people have been exposed to the virus joy squires with the Illinois Red Cross and she says, now all blood donations are being tested for antibodies as part of their standard testing procedures for infectious diseases. Antibodies testing could indicate if someone had been exposed, it doesn't necessarily indicate infection or immunity just maybe at some point in time if he were both. Those test results are available in about seven to ten days. She notes that offering anybody tests might help increase the blood supply a study of donations during the summer found first time donors increased from eleven to seventeen percent after antibody testing was offered. And finally, Mary Sherman tells us the shift to virtual and blended learning to reduce the spread of cove nineteen could have an unintended consequence for kids vision chief eyecare officer with United Healthcare. Dr Scott Edmund explains the increased screen time raises the risk of digital ice train and possible retinal damage from high energy blue light. He says looking at a screen closer than thirty inches away also can cause vision problems including nearsightedness Edmund suggests following what's known as. The twenty twenty, twenty rule, twenty minutes you need to look at an object, twenty feet away or further for twenty seconds that not only cuts the exposure to all the blue light. It also gives the muscles in the I rest from sustained contraction just twenty seconds says all you really need, and then they can go back to their digital devices about forty one percent of Americans are affected by nearsightedness compared to twenty five percent back in nineteen seventy. This is by Clifford. Thank you for rap you week with Public News Service member enlisted support heard on great radio stations across the nation and online at public new services, DOT ORG and add eight brothers ate a bad bad attitude hanging around a bad bad bad bad Babrak about badge. We are live in the Voronova laser right across the river through the woods from Granny Love that critical Mass Cheo Dragon Johnson James in New York. City. The Big Apple. Just about to drive as some kind of. But on the Plus. Rats on the west side bedbugs uptown but s is towns Gentlema- splattered Overman Menendez. He's I got With. CARVER high achieving. And we got fins up twenty, one, seven eight and a half left in the third in Jacks in the Thursday night her. And then we've got the Lakers up five. Sixty, eight, fifty, five in game four in the Western Conference Finals We got our eyes on this game obviously ad. I have nineteen point seven of ten from the flow Lebron fourteen, four and five. He's five eleven to three. Dwight. Howard has eleven, points and ten. The double double. Getting involved. The Big Fella and. Tan from Kyle COSMO's been nonexistent in the. Series and in the playoffs overall right bottom line. He's done Jack Tonight he showed up. that. Only took a couple of months. So then for the nuggets she got. Murray Sixty, a ridiculous reverse layup windmill style under the basket. Temp style joker would ten and three. Grant would ten one in one. Nobody else is mortars got seven and four boards. So. We gotta lock non here tonight Graham from athletic and Buffalo's. St-. You're listening to Ferrall on the bench here on sports overnight. America. Twenty eight I'd struggled with opiate and Meth addiction for twelve years. I didn't said things that the sober me never would have done. When they realized I was not invincible. Exempt and that's when a friend told me about Lee Rehab place when. 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Whole thing going man, I told Carver high my guy at three steam trains going he had the whole team yet a bench salary cap. Three different locomotives. What's going on there? Bro A one like how you look at this one I go what I what is it a second one he goes yeah it's from Canada I went what? She S got brown tip on it, check it out and I'm like. That's incredible. Then he goes look at this when he brought one look. Like a steam train going through the. Marlins I was like what is going on? Draft these guys. I hope you understand what I'm talking about. Anyway. Corn Dog I took the Lakers tonight carver high because I just felt like everyone was and I could be wrong I'm wrong thirty times a day on average. That the. Nuggets because they should have one game too and that they won game three in the day. Remember they blew a twenty point lead on the last time I was talking to you and then they it was eighteen then twenty then they blew both of those. But they won the game and it got down to three and they won by eight. So everybody was on six. Tonight I think, and I don't do the whole. I'm not Mr What's the public doing I'm GonNa go the other way I'm not that way I just feel. That most people were gonNA go that way. And I just wasn't and it had nothing to do with them. I was just like I think they're man that they got. The daily. Flavor twelve minutes. And I feel like they didn't play hard for you know thirty six minutes I thought they just went through the motions which is unbelievable to me but I think the Celtics did the same thing last night against the heat they just Kinda took the entire first twenty four minutes often we're like don't worry about it. We'll be in this game we'll be one or two at the end, and we'll either winner we won't they played like that they played like a team that was a satisfied with doing nothing going through the motions and then turning it on in the fourth quarter and being in the game, which is the kissing die. I think he's a kiss of death I. believe in jeans that actually go forty eight minutes and when it's at thirty six and they start shuffling people in and out for some burn some minutes to give rest to the stars if you will. That's essence what they're doing that that can work for forty eight minutes I. Don't see any reason carbohydrates slowdown. Or to take a break or two. Gay Manager Love Manage or whatever you WanNa call that stupidity I wanna I wanNA guys that have a plan and then attacked last forty eight minutes. It's no different than. Back in the day forty minutes a hell in college, right? It's. It's the except of just going off belly to belly. Out and we're GONNA play relentlessly for the whole game and we're gonNA. If you can't go more than seven minutes stretches relentlessly then we'll take you out at five and put somebody in that will when he guys to go like it's not even been hockey a guy that can go that forty five to a minute shift nonstop. For the whole game for you know, sixty minutes I'm not talking about like this guy that shows up for one and a half periods or two periods I need a guy that can go in his shift hard the whole game you know what I'm saying. No you're exactly right. You need to be able to go cover to cover and we've heard a lot about conditioning and things like that from. A bunch of these teams that have now a little bit further into the bubble the Lakers of course have talked about conditioning a lot. You reading the box score before there was one thing that jumped out at me because we talked about this on. Coast to coast yesterday after game three about how all those guys didn't get on the boards the other night. Ada. Eighty with another doughnut in the first half no boards Brandon Davis in the first half after that performance the other night not on the glass at all again, tonight can have it. Can have. You Know Dwight Howard is giving them a ten and and nobody else really is not millsaps for porter for nobody else in the game has done Jack Lebron's got for it's been total Dwight Howard on the glass and it is what it is. You know guys that. Play defense guys that rebound and guys that blocked shots are the reason why? Teams. Win Games. That's it. That's the difference like last night in the game. Am I wrong the difference was the turnovers by the Celtics because they shot better. From the four better from three, but they turn the ball over so much. That, they lost the game that was the difference. How do you out shoot somebody? How to shoot a high percentage and rep threes and do everything but you lose the game well, it's because you. Either turn it over had stolen or you found your way out of the game and gave him tons of free throws, right? That's how you lose when you're up in the box score with all the numbers and all the scoring and everything else. But it's the little things that turnovers. The rebounds the free throws. All those little things you know those turnovers killed Boston, that's just all there is to it an tonight. They started. Dwight Howard, which was an adjustment right that was coaching move by the Laker stab with you know the whole thing kid vogel, all of them and they put it together to light. We're GONNA start this do because he's in jokers had now it's become a topic of conversation in the media. Everybody thinks that Dwight Howard is under a skin right and then maybe it's true tonight, a joke edge came out and did nothing for literally the first. The first quarter was embarrassing. He really did not think he ended up with ten that's where he's at now. Sued a lot at six shots he hit two threes. So he had six points right there but he came out and that's everywhere that's through that's into the third quarter now. So in the first quarter, he did deadly he didn't do anything and I think a lot of that was you know crazy Dwight Howard. Getting all up in his business. Totally getting in his. Yeah. You're right. Clearly a little bit in the head you would think. After, what went on and he did not play well in the first half they've come out now here in the second half. I expect this game actually to go down to the wire I really do this will show me something nuggets. Forget this one tonight. Maybe you can dream sky maybe you can all the LAKER haters out there. Maybe they'll be able to dream. So, you're hoping and I can appreciate that you're hoping for a nugget, win a steel to two, and then a miracle win the series. Well, look. To you still obviously. are going to lean that the Lakers are GonNa win two out of those three games but at least nuggets of now put it in the mind that maybe they can get it done especially without they've played game seven already. In this playoff, they've already won two of them. All here did you see his terrible did? Call Look that that's just an absolute Oscar winning performance by Pope Ref L. for it and then. You're bite MILLSAP had to leave the game I can't believe he's not getting tacked up right now either because he's just freaking out on the rough so Malone. And he's like just one more out of you and you're getting teed up one more word. So he didn't see him up still at five point game ten and a half left third but. I mean it is what it is. They're having trouble getting good shots. I'll tell you that much Denver's doing a job on him early in the third what I've been seen now I gotta be honest I watched a on and off. Busy as watching the dolphins as well. I was. You know I had a lot going on over here. And I had to. Get the show ready and everything else. I was doing all kinds of stuff. So I just started really getting into the game now in the second half I watched it. From a distance, I had to go and I knew what was going on new job Jordan scorn I knew Dwight was getting rips I saw Dwight have that follow dunk rebound a and the foul and I saw all the Asada Murray. Reverse layup is everything I needed to see and really now it's about for me granted it's three it's about stops now because now it's a two point game and it's about getting stops ten laugh third you gotTa make stops and you gotta make buckets and you gotta take. Relatively decent looks. You can't just chuck it like now you know you get the bomb three Davis I mean it's a dangerous way to make a living having him become a guard, which is what he's doing now shooting wing and perimeter downtown straight out jacks and hitting it but. Do. You really think he can just keep hitting threes the rest of this game. The represent a series that's his game. Now Twenty five feet out. knows. That's what it looks like to me I i. You know I, come from the side of the river green it's at three. I'm from the side of river, says, let's get this big fella down the block and get him dunking or get him doing that turnaround mid range. He's lethal. APP. Or going elbows drive getting contact on the line 'cause he can hit free throws. They WANNA. Brian. Him into line more. Attention to anyone that's written a book, a wants to write a book. The process is not that complicated. Take a first step. Even if you write a page a day you build momentum and your book will become a reality. The hard part is getting it published. That's when you need to call page publishing. 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And we'll keep our eyes on that twenty, eight seven dolphins now on the jags. Coast to coast today on Sports TV I. Told You. I was on the dolphins to win outright and getting the three. So let's see if they can finish off this big lead that they have right now, and that's really on their debut fits Magic's done everything to get this job done and keep the job obviously as you got to over his shoulder and fans WanNa, see it media wants to see it but fences doing the job in their first two games they were close but no cigar, the end I thought that. He threw the pickens on whatever and and week one that would have covered and last week they were in the game. As well against the bills so. Tonight. They look like they deserve one. They played way better to Jackson. Tim Graham does. Tim Graham podcast now everywhere podcasts are available also. Obviously covering the bills for the athletic and we always like having. Tim On event how you doing brother everything gooden. Yes Guy I'm doing all right bills of. Giving given the folks here in western New York a lot to talk about maybe people getting a little overexcited and thinking about book their flights to the Super Bowl and all that stuff and. Buying the Josh Allen Memorabilia for his NBC's and but it's only been two weeks I hate the tap the breaks and be the curmudgeon but I just want to keep worn bills fans. Once let's just enjoy this without throw in extra expectations on Josh Allen and thinking that this is now going to be the norm that. Guy Who's never completed really more than fifty percent of his passes, all the sudden is going to be. You Know Ken Anderson Out. There Do. You think God that people are freaking out because for seven and a half months they've been trapped in their own Krizan, and then all of a sudden. Somebody has something to be happy about in buffalo is the bills winning two games and It makes you just WANNA drink booze and run naked down the street that it's something. About, in the KOMO's. It's not seven and a half months. It's the twenty years. Twenty years, check it out. People are writing columns about how the bills have finally found their necks Jim Kelly. Long. Time since they've had a quarterback that they can really rally around and we're watching fits magic have fun out there against the Jacksonville Jaguars and everybody who has ever come into contact with Ryan Fitzpatrick who loves him? He's a great team mate. You know the whole thing i? Guess. There was the time when they had Doug Flutie for a little bit and drew bledsoe squeezed an extra season out of him but they really haven't had anything like Josh. Allen since. since Jim Kelly, and that's the low bar though I mean Josh. No again. Josh Allens I two weeks. have been historic. You know there are you putting him in the same sentence as Patrick Mahomes peyton manning and Tom Brady for the hottest starts to a season and then I did some digging on some numbers and I found that not only is it just two weeks to start a season but any consecutive weeks there is a very short list of guys who've done in back to back games with Josh Allen has done. In, his first two games So let's not discredit that but still Josh. Allen just three games ago was throwing the ball all over the place and I don't mean in a good way. I mean slinging behind his back and fumbling and trying to lateral and doing all kinds of crazy stuff thrown into his fullback twenty yards downfield into into double coverage late in the game against the Houston Texans in the playoffs. So I'm not ready to say Josh Allen his figured it all out but it has been fun to watch through a couple of games and You're right those bills fans have waited long time for. This to be excited about. I mean. Everyone deserves to have their little alcoholic moment with their football team. Are, getting crazy. When listen they? You're covering them right and so you've covered them for a long time in essence and do you feel like when you're walking over air into their world and into their practices and into their games and seeing the organization now? would. John. Running it G feel like you're around a winner finally and that you've got a hot commodity on your hands to cover. I do Scotty and it's been that way for a while it's not just now they've gone to the playoffs to the last three seasons. Now granted Chow McDermott's first season two, thousand, seventeen, they backed in they had to get you know. Super Lucky with Andy. Dalton completing a miracle pass to Tyler Boyd to beat the heavily favored Baltimore Ravens for them to get into the playoffs Was a legitimate you know playoff season they clinched with a couple of weeks to go in the season. They beat tough teams at home and on the road So they've been building a program here and it does feel different than anything else it's it's making it feel. and. I'll take. A moment to say or for my credentials anyway that I covered the AFC EAST FOR ESPN or three years which means I haven't just covered the bills I've been around bill checks program I've been around bill parcells operations with the Miami Dolphins. When he was there I've seen different organizations and how they operate and this really does feel like one of the better operations I've been around to cover you know it's it is. A culture thing and other a lot of people out there that don't believe culture I for one do Sean. McDermott has set the tone. Brandon bean has done a masterful job at gathering the talent that's been needed both in the draft and through free agency everything. So yeah, it really does feel a lot different and it feels different on the field at least or these first couple of weeks watching a guy like stefan eggs. the plays that he's made bills. Fans just aren't used to see in that type of thing right now they've had good players here there but when Josh Allen can throw it to three or four different guys we're talking you know John Brown is a is an improved is an impressive player in the NFL Cole Beasley is a probably an underrated slot receiver, and then you adds to find digs to it and It seems like no matter where Allens throwing the ball guys are just making the place and it's it's one of those deals where you sit pack and think you know this is. You know like when I covering the bills for as long as I have you, you'd get done with your story and the goal was to get done in time file your story. So that way you and your buddies that also covered the team get to the bar to watch the Sunday night game, and during the Sunday night game, you see the highlights from the day because we're focused on that bills game, we don't get to see all the highlights, and then we'd sit around the bar and say, Oh, this is what football is supposed to look like. The bills seem to be playing that brand of football. It's like Oh. This is what football supposed to look like. This isn't Chan dailies. Head coaching. This isn't This isn't Rex Ryan. This isn't Dick Iran. You know this isn't Greg Williams. My God, listen to him with all these coaches they've gone through. Let me ask you before we get into the bills a little further. Let's take a break from all that 'cause I'm overwhelmed by your. Your development as human being I really am because I've known you since you were a young kid and I was a young guy and now we're old man and time flies when you're having fun. So let's go back to another time. Let people in on the the young. Devious alcoholics that we were when you and I were in Las Vegas and we were covering big prizefights and The best boxing anyone had ever seen before in their life like I remember outdoor fights they don't do those anymore. I was there for everything and so were you tell people like give people an idea of what you and I were like like in a hotel suite after a fight when we started drinking and then cap drinking until the next day just tell people the truth of your previous life before he became a professional. I, he won't even do it. Do we lose him. Dried Jesus. It'd be worse was that not just like someone stole my car. I went the drive through I. went to the driver's Ed within a drive in movie. Went up to get popcorn and I came back and some dude stole my car with my chicken. I mean honest to God. Listen. Graham just tell me exactly when you lost me tell me when you lost me. What was I saying? I think I actually missed all of it because I was talking when I lost signal. Kidding me so he didn't hear anything. I said okay this is the worst. I. Feel. Okay. So I told a story that I went to the drive in movie theater. I wanted a the the stand in the middle of the food to get my check. Some popcorn and a hot dog and a beer and I came back and she was gone with another guy in my car never to see her again and the guy stole my car. That's how bad it was when I talked this story, and then you weren't there when I went to you to ask the question and I threw a deal with the funniest question ever and you weren't there it was the biggest it was like car theft auto with the guy taking my chick too. So let me start over now. Now now I don't have enough time stories, and now you're GonNa have to stay another segment. Story Right. Be Nine never got the car back your this is an example, and so he's not following me carver high. What happened is I was telling this story about you and me and when you weren't there when I asked the question of you, it was like getting my car stolen at the drive in theater with my chick sleep with another dude in the car. So when you weren't there, that's what it was like getting my car stolen. But nowadays, it didn't happen. But that's what it felt like. Okay because I had the greatest story ever. You didn't hear it and then I threw it to you for you to respond and I was laughing and you weren't there and I was like, did that just happen? Stance naked with my pants down chicks another guy in my car stolen and they're driving a California never see him again. Comeback Tell this story and because I have to. Cover I. Do have to tell it. Great Story and then you when I drew it did so worst feeling. I'm. That's our tonight because. Gone By. Her you're listening to Ferrall on the bench here on sports overnight America. Drinking I always. Changing so fast these days. 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Hundred Eighty one that's eight hundred, eight, zero, seven, Nineteen eighty-one now more from ferrall on the bench here on sports overnight, America? What I was saying was and I kind of want to do it If I can in any twist at all different way what I was telling the story about Tim Graham was it's Tim has evolved into this great journalist. An old man now, the families got the whole thing going he's got. He's still writing. He's writing better than ever is doing this podcast he's got. All his priorities in line everything I said but there's gotta be a point where you stop and reflect back to what a complete alcoholic he was with me when we were young. In Vegas. And we were just getting hammered at boxing events after the fight in like my a sweet like we drink for like eight hours straight and. There's no way that he's ever forgotten that there's just no I know that as as life has gone on and he's become so sophisticated, there's gotta be at least one time in his life that he thought back to Jesus I used to party with that guy like a Rockstar when I was young. So tell the truth about what you were like when you were an animal before he became this, you know stab law fair now that you're. Up there with the things. You're hanging out, you know Bill Belichick and you're hanging out with going to. Big Games and super bowls and everything else and covering the east and covering the bills. But talk about when you were just a boxing and a writer in Las Vegas and you like to tie it on with ferrall. Scotty, I don't think. I've changed at all. So backed I've gotten better at it I've and don't mean harder at it. I think I think it's like my liver is a is a finely honed Oregon. just handles this and it wasn't just alcohol. Let's Now it's point that out or at least it you said you wanted to be to be honest I'll be honest it was not as alcohol. and. I remember one day in particular where we read. Where where we were eating cheese crackers do you remember this? Tell me eating cheese crackers and we had these. We were just laughing at each other because we have these orange cheese teeth on right and You know you couldn't tell us anything because we were having the bag and whatever else and anyways. So yeah, I do think back about that I. Think about that often have cheese crackers. At, the time that I was in Scotty Scottie and I were in his room and we were just busting up over the fact that we had. We had cheese crackers in our teeth. Yeah, and we were having. Hammered and high. Average. I haven't. Grown up. Good right. It's good to know because I still go to all the fights and it's weird because there's a big fight the Charles Brothers double header, Saturday night and Mohegan Connecticut that normally would have been in Vegas by because of the covet it's changed everything life has changed the. Sport of Famer and now you GonNa go to these Games don't you these bells games? I can't if I want to. But I really don't see any benefit to it because everything's done over zoom and I can do that from my armchair at home. So why drive down to the stadium Sit You know not just six feet away from my closest colleague but twelve feet or whatever because it's really watered down and have to keep the mask on and you really can't interact. Like you want to. So I just stayed home and watch it with my son last week my Co worker, Matthew Fairburn who covers a the bills for the athletic. Also, we went to the Seneca Niagara Casino and covered it from the sports book and just road vets all day and wrote about that and We wrote about if we're going to analyze the team we decide. Betting is just a form of analysis and so if people you know, you see these reporters and even guys sportscenter they give you the picks for the game and they're almost never against spread which shows no balls at all. But you know they'll say I think that so and so is going to win this game. Well. So what so we get there and we were all right. Not only do. I think this is GonNa happen by this many points but I think this guy's going to have this many yards we're going on certapro that's I was crossing up basketball and baseball and football parlays and. All kinds of stuff and we sat there and there's no alcohol on the casino floor there. And DEMOC type thing. Oh, well has to do with the pandemic. There's also no smoking there either. So what we did was we just brought these little mini bottles and I brought some that would go well with coffee and some would go well with sodas and depending in the morning we went from coffee drinks and then in the afternoon we went to Soda. And and then we wrote some stories about our bets. That's there was a bar in San Francisco called the Wayne Evista down in fisherman's wharf down at the bottom of the trolley on hide. In Hyde was where I live in ice to go down to this place on Saturday and Sunday mornings and they made the greatest I mean gets you. So rally up Irish coffees I mean to tell you these things were like three shots and then a little cap off of coffee with whipped cream just pouring out of his mug right and I mean it tasted so good. You wanted to have sex with IT ANA? I would go down there and drink. Ever six of them and eat a plate of food and I would go back and watch sports, and I mean to tell you I was in the bag by one o'clock. Eased ten o'clock was because in the in the West Coast the game started ten am so I go eat breakfasting ham on Irish coffees and then when you snap out of that a few hours later like at around. At worst the second games at best the third quarter fourth quarter the first game you start drinking other things booze beer whatever. But so when did they start winning sports books up there where you live and you could go to? The New York. State of New York it was at some point last year I'm not sure but there are some sense some casinos in central New York that are owned by are operated by. Native Americans the ones in the Buffalo area are all operated by native Americans. They didn't get their license until late December of last year. So you'd barely got any bills action. You Bet on the super bowl and stuff like that playoffs are in full swing. So a lot of people really aren't in the swing of doing. Of. Betting you know betting they don't know that they can even bet the bills games they don't have mobile betting in New York yet as you. and so that was part of the reason I wrote the story was kind of like, Hey, if you're looking for a different way to watch the game because maybe you're a season ticket holder who used to go to these games and you can't anymore check this thing out and you know watch it watch it here and be a degenerate like me and my Buddy Matt. Those those. Go ahead. Real quick about LAS. Because you mentioned Vegas in the ten o'clock starts I lived out there for five years I didn't want a ten o'clock off and it was because I was. On Friday nights there was no way in Hell I was getting up by ten am to watch a football game. So yeah, the four o'clock eastern starts about all I got listen. They have a lot of people that carver high and I know are just absolute raging alcoholic and they I mean raging. Until five six in the morning raging and like going home in a limo or a over, just completely shot and they still. We see come in all black eyed at ten am for those games. They don't miss the nowadays they don't miss the ten o'clock start like every strong person in the world is there and they're drinking bloody Marys doubles to snap out of it and and get their action. So let me ask you the rams come in they're. Both, these teams are now I've read all about. This is the eighteen time the bills have been doing i. don't care about any of that bottom line is. You're right about everything. You've said so far digs what he's meant for him. Alan what he's meant for him. And the reality of it is now you're you're played the dolphins and the jets. Now you're playing the rams who are really good. It would appear that Sean McVeigh has his team in the right direction. Again, they look fantastic in their first two wins. The opener against dowse or whatever and then. The win against last week against the eagles what do you have coming in there? That should be a tougher team to deal with A. Much, tougher the one thing that I think the bills have gone in their favorite. Things but I think that coming to the east coast back to back weeks for Los Angeles is going to be tough So from a betting standpoint, I would definitely factor that in The bills also appears as though they're to starting linebackers who are gone against Miami. Tremain Edmond Matt Milano They've been practicing this week. So that's a good sign for the bills defense which looked a lot better in week one against the jets than they did last week against the dolphins. So they're returning home, they should have a full squad I like the bills in this game for whatever that's worth But yes, this is by far their best test and and maybe we're seeing a little something out of the dolphin stay against the. Maybe, they weren't a pushover. Maybe. That wasn't just some automatic win bills You know that you should. Put An asterisk next to of as a bills victory because dolphins are playing really well and and they fought hard and fitzpatrick has these guys believe in a little bit so Yeah I think that the bills might be real and and I'm a skeptic in by nature, pick them to go ten and six this year same record, his last year but against tougher schedule but they through these first couple of weeks and with especially with what the offense is done from a timing standpoint, you talked about all these you know preseason games it we're GONNA be missed, and of course, the off season because of the pandemic, not being the best in terms of getting sharp. These guys. Are they look like they've been playing together for forever and it's been really impressive to see but you know the rams and Aaron Donald They haven't faced anybody like him. Jalen Ramsey He's got a history with Josh Allen Trash talk from Jalen Ramsey talking about how bad Josh Allen is that he's that he's a fraud pretty much from. That still carrying over as a story. And it'll be Yeah I think and let's let's also You know give the rams credit for their arsenal that they have on offense the bills have had to face A quarterback that's had multiple options that he can go to when he when he drops back to pass the jets receiving core is a joke and and the dolphins weren't all that great either I mean Seki, of course, it tight ends one thing but they've been banged up receiver too. So you got Cooper Cop Robert Woods and You know all these guys that the the rams have been using its Yeah it'll. They'll have their hands full. This'll be the game where we really get a good idea as to what the bills really are all about. So lastly. Unanswered you. Respectively I got ninety seconds. How's your podcast? You like doing that better than doing a radio every single day. Yeah we're just getting started, but you know I'm having to learn how to do video production doing a youtube thing too and I'm doing it all myself. just the sponsor came with me from the radio station and I decided I'd I'd give it a run and be in total control. You know free of the FCC and can say what I want do what I want I guess on that I want and looking forward to to role in this thing out. That's awesome. I'm glad I have my what are you drive at once a week or more? Twice we're doing twice. We do Monday show. That's kind of no frills bills recap, and you know something a little extra maybe have guest on and then Friday show or a little later in the week maybe it's Thursday maybe it's Friday polished more with multiple interviews you know getting into other sports, not just bills maybe you know we got sabres talk or what's going on with the NBA Finals Boxing You all kinds of stuff. So High on their show on. You gotta get govern high hurling to to lower himself and appear on this on the podcast I'd be honored to have him. Now. He's a giant bills fan as you know, and he's afraid to bet on the bills. Won't. Won't better. Ever. I don't like betting on my own teams. You know this is there's too much emotion involved with when it comes to the bill. Go have another Johnnie Walker Go have another three fingered glass? The Jaguars just missed a field goal. It's twenty, eight thirteen against with the extra point. So anyway, great stuff. Via from the athletic. Tim Graham Buffalo Pre brother inside a game. This weekend gotta run. Hello, and welcome back to the Ronnie do each tax program on the line is Paul from California Hi Paul what's your tax problem today? Hi Ronnie Love Your Show Listen I've got a big problem. 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This is by Clifford. Thank you for wrapping up your week with public new, service member enlisted support her on great radio stations across the nation and online at public new service DOT. Org. I believe in win cream. Remember that when he told me, he said yet. Thanks know. When he's my boy goes yeah. Thanks I appreciate that. No. I was like okay. I got you know. So do you think You know. It's. That, you can win a game where you're seven footer. A has one rebound or be when you have three seven footers that have no blocks. So in other words it's like they're not playing defense they're definitely not working on the glass. Give you. Howard. Words on the glass tonight you cannot deny. Dwight Howard work done on the Glassy had eleven rebounds but remember he had ten rebounds in the first half so All, eleven I don't even know all I know is at one point it was ten. I Don a double double at the half or whatever he had either ten or eleven. So he he never had another one. Did you notice that? I did notice that. and. What's the deal with Damis he went down and he grabbed his left ankle. How bad that he cranked ankle? It looked like it was pretty bad. But he came back into game. It looks like he's still. He's got thirty to ten fifteen from the floor eleven of twelve from the line and. Lebron's the? Line. I. Think he just shopping online like six of ten from the line. It's ninety, nine, ninety, six, thousand, three point game with five forty six left very leery now of the six point spread. The Lakers were laying right are you are you? Larry of that number CARVER, High Andy think now it's a four point lead. Do you think they'll cover the number? It's very sketchy right now I do not think the Lakers are GonNa, cover them the original number. No. I do not think that this is going to be a less than a six point game. Now here's Lebron again, complaining look, it's every call. Every call. Look at every call and Frank Vogel freaking out on rough. 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And of course, you know on Costa goes today I was on the. Dolphins to win on the money line and getting three. Yeah Nice job them look. Jacksonville played very well. The first two weeks of the season beating. Indianapolis. Playing Tennessee all the way to the end but. You knew that they are one of the two or three worst teams in the NFL like eventually they were GonNa have a week like this. Where all that talent isn't going to be able to get it done and meant you do not look good but the dolphins also were due to play a lot better. They were coming off a game where they. Just, lost to the bills it's and this was an earlier. This is one of these moments where everybody wants to in. and. This is the kind of performance from fitzpatrick that buys buys him like another two or three weeks you know. Like if came out tonight, he would've came out tonight and played really poorly. With A. Little. Extra time after a Thursday, night game, people would have been screaming for two to play the next game but now fits plays well, tonight, they get a win it gives floors two three more weeks before he has to make that to a decision that you know he's going to have to at some point. So the Lakers just stripped. The ball from millsaps injured he's down at the other end trying to defend Davis Lebron just gone down brick. Shot from the free throw line all front iron, and now they have the ball trying to get to the bucket. And they're up by four right now but the nuggets. Are. Getting Get A. Time out did they stole the ball call a time out? So there's no call there at all I think it's Denver's ball for with just literally under four minutes to go in the game. It's unbelievable to me how he could have thirty two Davis and shoot the way he is shot in this game to be honest with you ten fifteen from the floor and hit a three. I. Saw him at the three and three rebounds three times thirty two points and Lebron's got twenty, nine and eight, which would be just shy of a triple double. And they're only up for. Is that not amazing to you at all? Carbon I. I mean at the very least I think it's the fact that. Howard had twelve and eleven and coups mad ten who's mad at the half you never scored again so. The bottom line is they've got nobody producing at all nobody had I guess caldwell-pope as thirteen so the bottom line is they don't have anybody producing at all like your boy green again, one of six from the floor three points and then Caruso everybody's hero he's got three points. One Four. How many times have I told you. On this show. Can, you count them that I told you green and Caruso at the end of the day suck. A Lot. Upset a lot that's for sure they are not going. I mean they do like, and then they'll have a good game and everybody talks about he's the he's the heart and soul of the team. He's the heart and soul and nothing. That is the fan. Favorite. One Jersey you wearing. To the park with the Doggie and aware to Lebron James or are you gonNa wear the Alice Caruso? I mean there's only two guys on the whole team to begin with. Lebron AG. That's it boom. So the fact that they have thirty two and twenty and they can't win is amazing to me Lebron right there with a bucket going in nobody can touch August is a freight train their six again with three and a half to go I mean. You give it to one or the other, and that's IT and get out of their way right now with three and a half left in this game, get a Lebron given the Davis and let him go and everyone else get out of the way like when I play in the hood on weekends they just say to me I'm like a corner dagger three wings three or a low block I and stuff around around, and they say to me all the time when it's a really close game or whatever. You know point game whatever, and then you get that great lightning point guard or that big that can finish a game every time on shot and they say the same thing to me every time get out of the way. Just get out of the way. move go to the go to the corner. And we know you can dagger from there. Just stay there if I need you, I'm GonNa kick it to you and you shoot it other than get out of my way, and then that guy either finishes or you hit the shot or you shut your mouth or you get your teeth knocked out. So it's the same way in this game right now it's give Lebron a ball and get out of his way. Everyone get out of the way the rest of these hacks get out of the way and give him the ball. What are you doing now Davis can touch it or Brian nobody else there's your offense know it I know they swing it with with Morrison US other nine cents. Ages. Turn of all over they gave him the ball and he literally let it roll off his hands out of bounds and you know what? You just can't have it. You just can't with superstar player with three minutes left in a game you're up three and you hand the ball off to his mitt inside on the wing and the guy throat literally throws it out of bounds what his own hands, how crazy is that? How crazy is that? Like what? I can't trust you to throw the ball to big fella with your big ass met. And then there's Rondo shooting in in the shot, which is the last guy when shooting last guy I went shooting. I know he had it. I had to ten the Lamy. So I, give it to Lebron. Let him go to the rack and get filed and go to the line. And then at the very least, they're getting arrest for the other end when you gotTa Chase Murray and jobs around. Right, instead of just keep going and keep going and try to end the game that way give him a breather. Give Lebron Rack. Let him go attack it. Let him get found. Go to the line they're up five now tummy this vegas numbers and just hovering on that six. It's just so crazy. Pope Rex, but your boy eight gets the RIP. I guess he could hold onto the ball that time let's I finally got to rebound. burs rebound is on get foul Lebron. and. Neither you know both teams are into bonus. So he's going to the line with two minutes left. So we've already made money on the dolphins tonight I WANNA get into. Baseball at the very least and the end of this basketball game at least talk about because carbonized got all the skin needs very important of WHO's mega play. So here's the update dodgers up Jesus on the a top of the sixth marlins leverage for nothing middle at seventh in Atlanta Royals Eight, seven, the Tigers bottom eight. And they gotta run with two outs the royals Astros Oven Rangers twelve four. It didn't go overland cardinals four one on the brewers. Bottom Saturday got runners second and third to outs. Hires v the cubs today? Seven nothing Jay's beat the Yankees again I hit that four one orioles thirteen one of the Red Sox I'm surprised Red Sox have been playing a little bit better lately, and then you lose to the orioles that way it's embarrassing rockies came back. He knew it was up three nothing to giants rubbing that game and they lost five four and eleven innings. I saw him it was three, one, three two and I knew they were GonNa, blow that game I was on coast to coast and I was watching it was a day game at Oracle and I could just smell it common mets beat the nationals three to hit that game Indians I hit again over the white sox five four landslide and I gave up nine earned runs and five and two thirds Nice Job Lance Nice job he had a great season until tonight when you gave up the eggs I mean really he just really gave up the stinky eggs nine earned runs Jesus. Just. Wrap it up rapid. Ma I love rapid. Anyway a one, zero, nine, a minute, and a half left carbohydrate. You have the updated standings for the play offs. I do we have to wait because we have the two games that are going on tonight that actually matter to the standings are the my the Marlin game, which is almost over and cardinal game cardinals game so Those two those are the two games. Now, if the Marlins win that, they will be a full game ahead of the phillies for second place in the East with three games to play this weekend of course, cardinals a little trickier because they still have four left with the brewers, this weekend doubleheader tomorrow, and then potentially if they needed. To on Monday. With Tigers but the cardinal's if they win tonight's got, they're going to be in good shape because they're going to be two games over five hundred. they'll actually have. That lead on the on the reg there for second in the central. So they're in good shape right now. So I see your boy Joe. Joel. embiid his wife had a baby tonight. Very exciting son for Junk Joel. EMBIID. 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And a half to wait must approve recommendation for it to go into. That means on October thirteenth and fourteenth. It's easier for bowl games to fill slots at the season that may seem. Like teams will play double digit games and others only a handful. The PAC, twelve announced today they're going to start November sixth. All. Power five conferences GONNA play this fall. They'll be eligible. You know the college football. Playoff Ville announced that. The the four that Mega December twentieth. Sounds me like they're just gonNA have no idea. But that's exactly what I'm hearing about is that everyone would be eligible but all that they could start as soon as December I I agree with you I don't buy whatever that it started that early but I do buy did they're gonNA let? Anybody be eligible. They can pick whoever they wanted to be in their bowl games one. Twelve one eleven one oh. Sixes Rondo, misses the free throw with thirty one seconds left. So get your free throws you can't cover for Uncle Futrelli Nice job. I told you the guy can't shoot. When that guy shoots I, cringe. You think I'm getting. Anyway do you have the Like the updated I just wanted to know if anything's changed I'll look at it right now. In terms of those baseball games, you told me the ones that you needed were brewers. They're down forward to the cardinals eighth and the MARLINS are up four nothing on the braves in the seventh. Those are the two games of substance right now. Yes in the playoff race those are the ones. The giants have already lost today. Everybody else that was in the mix the phillies were off today. Reds were off today so. Then, we start the final weekend here. Tomorrow everybody will be an action double header for the brewers double header for the giants. Uab Blew Out South Alabama in college football forty, two to ten the final score was thirty one thirteen with the dolphins winning their first game and right now like I said one, twelve, one, zero, six, the secondary throw their up six with thirty seconds lab. The number was six I don't know what it closed. Do you remember what it closed out on because was six and a half six and a half was where it was at on fan at that time. I got it at six. So. I'm not feeling good about it unless they get a rebound and get fouled. And I mean twice. Yeah. There's still still some time for anything to happen here on both sides number. Definitely is. So did I. Did Bang a pilot. In. The in the Dolphin game one of those great vandal and Vandal doesn't outstanding job with this the same game parlay. I hit tonight. I had Koseki touchdown which hit. Miles gas over seventy. Gaskin over seventeen and a half receiving yards. And the alternate spread I the dolphins plus ten and a half. So I had those three together in a parlay was plus four seventy one. And that's a winner tonight. So feel good about that I hit a couple other promises well, I had parker over four and a half catches. Hit another prop to I forget what the other one was somebody with the jags but I know, Conley I missed by two yards wide receiver for the jags that guy dropped about fifteen balls tonight. So Nice Job I am. So. The Blue Jays made the playoffs than I. They did JJ's the Blue Jays are now now not saying that the Yankees can flow this. BLUEJAYS are now two games back at the Yankees for that second place plot in the Al. now, there's only three games left. But the Blue Jays. Off The maybe the MARLINS are going to go in the Yankee Stadium this weekend and take a couple of games from them. Right? Never. Know you never know, hey, you never know the way they were and I have an here's what's other me about the Yankees all year and we've talked about this a lot. They just they whine about so much stuff like. Last week in the last time they were in buffalo it was about the sight lines. I forget what they were were complaining about. The Lights. The lights in buffalo a couple like early in the season they complained about something else. Oh the member banging that making the noise outside the Stadium Philadelphia. Remember that there was like three or four people outside the gate and that was too loud for them. And the announcers complained about the announcers were too loud and Gave me an answer like like hear all the stuff and then there was I saw somebody mentioned today that it looked like the? Yankees, just absolutely. Look like they didn't want to be anywhere near Buffalo the last two days like they were all sitting in the seats like with these ridiculous frowns on their faces like just honestly I'll tell you this day of complained in bellyache the lot these over these sixty games they better show up next week. No matter who they're playing. I don't care if they're had Minnesota Chicago against the White Sox, whatever it's going to be, and they better turn it on because this is really slept walk through the sixty games they absolutely have. So you think that they can flip a switch. Do you think they'll replace Sanchez as a catcher with your boy getting shaky? I can't say anybody's flipping a switch because what's the problem every year everybody complains about the Yankees pitching every year when it to the postseason time. But guess what's happened the last three years the pitching up the pitching shows up every year in the playoffs they don't it. When they get there, they don't get big hits. So I fully expect cold show up next week a pitch. Well, I fully expect Tanaka to show up next week because when he gets in postseason games, he's a different guy to he raises his game knocker. He's excellent in the postseason I expect him to get the good pitching performance. What I what I need to see is I hate to see Stanton get a big hit I need to see judge get judges at its in the postseason the last three years but they never get the big hit. It's never do mayhew last you got the big ticket and then they you know obviously lost in the bottom of the ninth in Houston but he had a huge hit and the top of the night to keep the season going last year. So how? How about for twenty years in a row, there's GonNa be a new champion in baseball. It's crazy. But when you think about it, it really is so like the last four been cubs, Atas Red Sox Washington. You. Know nobody. I told you on the show and coast to Coast Verona Been Saint Louis always gets done. They got it in I think. I think Oh six and. Twenty eleven. Boston. Zevon and thirteen. And then after that, the giants won their three if you remember in ten twelve. And Fourteen. and. As I mentioned the last I guess both the nats already. They're back the bachelor. So nine yeah. Well, the the Yankees were the last back the backs, right? Ninety, Ninety, eight, ninety, nine, and two, thousand last backs but they were going for it in two thousand, one, two when Arizona. shareware. But that that would have been four in a row. And four in a row and five out of six because they want to ninety six. So they won four out of five. One ninety-six did not win ninety seven and then one of the three hundred. Twenty one seconds lab Davis said the Line Lakers one, thirteen, one, eight. It's crazy. Right on the number. Right on. It's killing me. It's on a number right now I need them to get a rebound and get fouled right now where's than anything? And there's your mess and there's a rebound now get the foul it's are they going to let them go out? They're not gonNA foul him they're not going to file them. It's GonNa hand on the number of push. Push. There you go. Lakers win by six push. We stay at the money line. Right. Push the spread our. And Denver's walking off like somebody just stole their dog. They now honestly they now know it's over there down. Look at your boy Lebron's got a scowl on his face like he did like the dirty work got done. One version. That's it. You're not gonNA, win it four one and they're gonNA. Force, Denver's going to sell you. Well, you know we've done this twice already They've won the last two series when they were down three one. Buck, they're not gonNA, win this one too. Yeah Good luck with that. You know that's not happening. As is just not happening. So, they get it done, and then the bottom line is. And when you look at this one gene. One away so At the end of the day, Davis had thirty four and Lebron had twenty six. So the double double formality had a huge I have on the glass and the Lakers are up three one in the series and a heat or up three one of the series looking more and more like it really is Miami and the Lakers. Karate give him any chance at all of. A beating the Lakers. Bam Hero. Dragging Chance, oh? Yeah. Give them a chance I'll be betting on them. I'll bet them for the series. I've already got a ticket on to win the championship I may double the meat and go at it again. For whatever suit I'll take a look what the series prices against the Lakers but I think they absolutely beat the Lakers. You'll be ruined for the heat. Do I think? I'll be ruined for the heat yeah. You could say that. Do you think. The jets trade lining. I think that they will. Yeah I've seen a lot about that. I think that they are. They're looking to make a little bit of a shake-up up there. I think they'll trade him. Who Do you think would want him like can you imagine if they put that guy on the Rangers? When they already hamels. I don't. I don't think he's GonNa. Go there. Team my team could definitely use if player like ham especially on the power play they actually we we know they have big issues on the power play it cost them that series against Tampa. 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Now back to the bench, with Scott, ferrall on sports overnight America. Right so Saturday night you gotta get in on. The Charles Double header at age is going to be incredible, everybody knows what's going on right? I've gone through this thousand times because it's so crucial for you to get in on it. And watch these amazing fight six fights five title-fights. The Charles Brothers are fighting. You got the Super Welterweight Champ Jurmala Charlie taking on. Hey Rosario to unified one hundred and fifty four town belts and then. Later you get Jamal taken on. Sarah Dairy and Chanko. Obviously. A very violent fight dare for the middleweight. Championship wbz belt is at stake. The first pay-per-view starts at seven eastern four Pacific after the first. Three fight card, there's a thirty minute intermission then they start the second. Three fight card. The nightcap is the Ger Mel Rosario fight the first fight. Of the night is the. The fight against Evian Chanko. So there you go. 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Up for the post game interview and he is just absolutely pimping out, he's got like on a Tiki bar shirt wide open completely just decked out like a burt reynolds hairy chest I mean he has rockin the hairy chest and the Harry Beard. Meanwhile, the guys smarter than everybody wants to Harvard and he's just completely pimping out Don Johnson style with the Burt Reynolds. Look I mean he has got it going on his grizzly Adams. See this lucky smarten garber I mean look at that shirt that I turned it off. So I'm trying to find a picture of it now or get it back on something. Is Better is it better or worse than a couple of years ago with Tampa, when he came out with a tracksuit and all the was, is it better or worse than that? Other the tracksuit was just classic dodgeball stuff and then this is more. Miami Vice. He is just completely pimping. It's got a blue. Purple. Blue Shirt on like barlow shirt with a they look like. Squid or whatever they look like giant what are they call? I get the fruit what what's it called? Squash it's gotTA. That's a great shirt. That is a tremendous Scher. US seeing it now I just thought yes, that's outstanding. That's rock star status right there that shirt I mean the fact that he pulled that out is GonNa get massive reviews. You can just feel it coming right it. Just it's going to be a fashion statement for sure he had two touchdowns tonight and a rushing touchdown he was unbelievable. And and I guess the beard beat the Mustache. That's the bottom line carver high is that The beard beat the mustache. I can't do anything with my goatee. You gotTa have a full. Nhl Stanley Cup beard and look he's wearing the dolphins sweatpants. So he's just absolutely pending and now he's talking about is open. Button shirt with his hairy chest I mean you boy needs the mangrove or harsh. He is like forest I mean imagine. If, they brought the band or he literally needs a wood chipper to get that off. He's got so much body here. It's just unbelievable. A Guy Man Groom I get it done? Here's people riding in a fear the beard is people riding in two. Sits magic. I mean what's great about its magic as he's getting just absolutely famous over this stuff like he's he never mattered as a quarterback. He's just always been a good teammate kind of quarterback. No one ever said he was great but he solid right he's like a really solid pro but the fact that he comes out pimping the Don Johnson loop with that beard like an Nhl he looks like I mean look at him on the sideline party and high five and crazy is he's got crazy beard. Meanwhile he went to Harvard. He hasn't shaved his beard in five years it looks like. You know your boy jumbotron. And And the other one burns when they had those rockstars easy time beards. Fits Magic's got disease top going and then he's got the Harry just the Burt Reynolds in full regalia he is just completely kicking it in. He's got it all going and then he's mad strong. It's a strong. I love it. I. Love it he's moving his fingers through it. He was like what's up? The whole thing goes like I. Just love it and he's just people like man groomer any won't even listen to him. He won't even listen to go through that once a week I got to go through the man grimmer once a week I mean I'm just a deforestation of Arou-. But I I can't tell you. I'm not a fan of like giant sweater your boy hirose. Got It going to. I saw him doing some kind of show. It's Steiner the memorabilia guy the other day and he had a on everything but we had them in my studio one night. We had him like naked in the studio at Howard Stern and eat makes fits magic look like he's got no hair. Meanwhile if it's magic, it's just covered grizzly Adams hirose foale like I mean. Like you think he was. At a knitting convention he's got so much action. Knit a scarf. Like from head to toe scarf, remember you boy in the NBA who's The guy? There was a guy I forget who it is. Immediate Baca is it a guy that does the scarves from head to toe? It is Sarah Bocci rocks like scarves from his head to his toe like the go all the way to the ground. That's your boy hirose body air. He could go full head to toe. Got Like You know what? A what an image. He's got all going. That's all night. You know when he comes on next week that's all I'm going to think about now when I see him on coast to coast, is that these basically you know? What he's got worked underneath that suit is. Literally like as literally like a Grizzly bear. Is. When he rolls, he sent in one night topless. It was the funniest thing ever signing your life and we film the whole thing and he was just I mean I'm not talking about I'm talking about like. Literally like a grizzly bear like the ones in the water Yang Samina would like they haven't had a haircut ever their whole life it just no, no one's getting near him to give him a haircut either we're not talking about Zubair's talk about wilderness full on you ain't going no near you know some bigfoot bear and giving them a haircut. As what hirose got going? Not. That that's bad or anything. I was talking to Chad each today on his podcast that's GonNa drop on Monday in D.. C.. Everywhere and he talked about. The lack of hair that I have left in my life. How many years left a half because it's bad enough now I'm short is unlike. Could have been in the movie midway air so short. For the attack on Pearl Harbor and midway right I was literally like because I get it completely cleans keep it zipped up and it's because I have no air anymore I used to have long hair. Those days are long gone and it is just an awful predicament soon enough I said Dukes won't have any and I said, then I'm going to shave it all get a tattoo on my skull that scares people and children. tweets important that I as I regret and I get older, I get uglier have to transform myself to shock and awe I can't just go bald. Lose it all. CARVER, I. Because you know I know it's like Linda pandemic you never cut your you had it, and then you had it rocking out like disco seventies you hair sticking up everywhere. Yeah. My hair grows fast theri fast-growing hair I like to cut it a little bit more often now just because I get that I got that little bit of gray cooking on the sides right there. So if I can cut that down, you know get that on half on the sides. It gives me a couple of weeks before the gray comes back in that's what I try to do. You don't have the. You don't do the hair dye. Like just dramatic, keep the the beard whatever say none of that. Now I'm not getting involved in that. Whatever happens happens that's it. That's. All that's it. That's the way it goes. I used to do that when I was on TV when I was younger. Keep Colored. Such a pain in the ASS. Go into that place and having them do your hair. Oh, my God it's like going like a chick to the salon. You gotta sit there for three hours. They put all that goop in your hair and you gotta sit there for like an hour with it, and then they wash it out and then it's done and you leave and you look like a briefcase is so black. And then I said I don't need this anymore my life I'm just GonNa go. Rod. Dog. And then you notice how quickly you're old when you get the gray and you're not or you're beard or if you grow a beard, you get a lot of action going awry. Yeah, but it takes me a while for to grow that. What was you know month and a half two months there. And it took that long to get. That might be a does not grow very fast, but it gets very gray. Area, which is another reason why I can't really keep that going too long like Do you like to have a beard going in the winter not shave when it's twenty ten degrees now I never really planted around things like that. If if my beard grows, it's just pure laziness that's all that it comes down to. I mean, it's just just I just haven't had the time. To do it that that's what it comes down to. It just don't have time to be shaving and such no, and the the MARLINS. Now Scotty who were up for nothing they still are up on. But it's the bottom of the eighth and the braves have the bases loaded with no outs in a four nothing Z. SO There'd be trouble could be trouble for the Marlins, and in the top of the ninth, the cardinals have a four one lead on the brewers but the brewers have a couple of guys on base see that. So some late inning drama. In this NFL playoff race possibly here we'll see what the marlins and I actually I actually have this broadcast. You might need to go to that game now. Can you imagine I have it on. So now the problem is I gotTa gotTa Mute it a little bit. We can't we can't have that. We can't have. Shot your face. Here we go. It's for one runners on first and second and one out. I think there's one out. Miller Miller beer pitching for the cardinal. and. I can't wait for the baseball playoffs. I gotTa tell you because the regular seasons like fennel. Yes me. Fun Part about diving in with all these three game. Three game series next week because there's four in each on each league so there's going to be eight games I know that next. Wednesday, you've got eight Games, eight playoff games baseball that's going to be wild. G think that that. The weekend will be chaos and that we're going to be shocked at what eventually happens because all these teams have a shot and you know there's GonNa be a couple like three of them. We're GONNA choke and the other ones are going to get in. It's going to be crazy this weekend. 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Think Dallas score the first goal could be worth a look. But. I get the feeling look they're going back to back to isn't that crazy after all this playing Friday and Saturday so? I. Don't know I think tap taste right now Scotty I think they see the end of the line here imagine a big party leaving with the Stanley cop it would be epic they win Friday they win Saturday. So leaning with the lightning even though I know Dow's GonNa Bring it early but I really do like the Miami Heat and I was just thinking about it about how I don't think the Celtics. Character I. Think they're rattled in other down three one right now we saw Marcus smart flipped out. It was actually a week ago Friday I believe it was that he snapped or whatever about a week ago so I don't know if they have another snap in them. Scotty I think Seattle I think Miami's that that hungry as well. Man, I think the Miami Heat closed out, we're getting three nine points to. And what do you think of I had the Lakers tonight and six I laid I pushed but do you think the? Do you think they're done the nuggets now? They look really wiped after that game. You know the difference tonight was was Yokich he just wasn't he was average. I mean like he's got to be great and he was average I'm all Murray. Dennis thing I think they've got another way left Adam Scotty. I think got one left animal. Make it three two people talking about all come back again and then they'll lose sex fast. I brother have a great show sports rages next I'll see you tomorrow on Ferrall coast to coast at four. PM East Great Job Carper Hawkins? You missed something from today's show. You can find it now on iheartradio talk that's iheartradio dot com slash top a special news update station you can. Follow us an iheartradio todd and stay in pets. Twenty, four, seven you're listening to sports overnight America. took. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio. MARKMAN NEWSFEED DOT COM. 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But now in how long is it going to be before somebody dies because they weren't wearing a mask and are we going to go out and do mascow close lives matter when that happened That's great question. It probably won't be too long given how violent the system is and how insane it has become. And now, it is even worse than before earlier this week we told you about the possibility that the Nashua New Hampshire City Council could be voting or would be voting on a more stringent more extreme mask mandate because they already where I believe the first city in New Hampshire to pass a mask mandate, and which I believe holds up two thousand dollar fine for an individual who has found not wearing a mask when in around business I don't know if it's required on the streets I have not read the the ordinance myself. But it is now worse with Nashua government. Alderman voting thirteen to two. On Tuesday night to support a proposal to prohibit businesses from serving patrons who are not wearing face masks while now does that have a medical exception? I have not read the actual ordinance I would piece I mean I. Guess I wouldn't be surprised at this point if it didn't but I would expect it does I would be surprised if it didn't just because it would run afoul of the Americans with Disabilities Act yeah. Well, it's also running afoul of the fact that New Hampshire local community governments are not home our home rule meaning that they aren't authorized to pass things unless the state authorizes them specifically to pass certain rules in the state has not authorized. State legislature is not authorized these sorts of these ordinances but yet, there's no enabling ordinance. There isn't something vaguely governor US spelled they'll claim something vague, but they're not supposed to. Be Able to do something unless it specifically authorizes them to do the thing. That's one of the points that we make in our lawsuit that area and the owner of local fucking great restaurant have filed in federal court is that there is no statutory authority for the state or the town governments to be passing these things who, but here's what the amended mask. Manziel if you win your case than national wins by default. Well Nashua in the people of national, not the not the city of Nashua. Well I mean by all evidence, the people of natural appear to want to be told what to do to. People, well, not all of them, but most of them are doing what they're told. So all the evidence suggests that most people are willing to just be told what to do and they'll do it and now the Ma- the amended mask mandate. The one that just passed says quote no business and no employee of any business shall provide goods or services to any person not complying with face covering requirements further, it says no business and no employee of any business shall permit a person to remain on its premises in violation of these requirements is. The way they word that because normally say somebody may do something or they may not do something if you say you shall go far son that's the. and IT'S NOT A. It's not in the imperative. Well, it seems pretty clear that if you are found providing services or goods now in the city of Nashua to anyone not wearing a mask, you will be subject to up to a thousand dollar. Fine. You the employee if you're just a teenage kid working the counter at the gas station and somebody wants to just by you know they're thirsty, they want to buy a bottle of water. And they don't have a mask on you will face up to one thousand dollar fine if you sell it to in fact, zealotry sounds go outside and sell it to them any employee. Of Any business? Will. Not. Provide shall not provide not provides. It doesn't say anything about providing endorse correct period anywhere at all and not only shall they not provide it to you they are not allowed to allow you to remain on the premises. So they have to tell you to leave they have to order you off the premises and threaten you with trespass. To get you allow. That's how I wonder true. Second Class A person at this point can can they require Alacrity with that defined that well alacrity is is speed or timeliness and so. The, the question is you know, hey, if you don't get out of here, three hours, I'm going to call the police. If you're not out of here by the time I, count to you know thirty, six, thousand minutes you're out. The police will be called. We'll give you time to finish up what you're doing. The boys will be called, but that's the thing. They can't give you time to finish up what you're doing because they can't let you check out. So you cannot, you cannot purchase things if you don't always true in Nashua. So if they are caught allowing you to purchase something that will be fine in that, you know the police are going to send sting operatives in right and so what you're going to need to do if you find yourself mask is you're gonNA need to make a straw man purchase if like a soda pop or something send somebody else makes diet. Yes. Dome was sky like is used to do for alcoholic or I used to do sure I almost every week that one wants. but now this is not okay and this is not good. This is really very. This is not okay. So the agress side of my head is going, okay. This is how you make money off this and the Libertarian side of my head is just going Oh my God they can't do that and they are doing it, and the am side is just going out there. Just a bunch of criminals they're gonNA do what they want don't get cut. Let's go to Larry in Indiana. Larry. You're on free talk live go ahead. I told you what it was coming through their own betrayal that they would take and ban some quirk that makes that seven five and our thousand dollars that he can't pay the judgment on him to follow him the rest of his thousand dollars for a teenage store clerk is like a month's worth. Right right dogging keepers credit score down and everything else if you use it but let me tell you what on our case. Now, this is the situation we're her boyfriend used. As. A human shield. So he wouldn't get shot. That's what he's done Jimmy. She was in his apartment. Hey I've been here in Indianapolis. No Long. And you guys noncolored, right When the cracks up game. At all dope boys with the cars and stuff they had girls like what they will hang out bad their fallen, adjust their cell. Don't they got pictures of them both dealing crack in the crack house. Now why would you get some community coming back up some person selling poison to your kids and corrupt in your neighborhood and act like this is such a big thing when he was crack well, just because somebody's selling crack doesn't mean that they deserve to die is. If you policemen and you knock they knocked on the door right and then you go in and somebody's shooting that you. What are you going to stay where a policeman I wouldn't be there in the first place because I was. Would refuse to enforce bad laws if I were calm. But we need that I. Welcome back we don't need. To to crack or any other drugs. Okay let me ask you something sir. Just ask another. Okay. Do you. I. Wanted to have his attention. Do you believe. Do you know you know that there are there are drugs you can get drugs in prison right? Okay. So how it's seems like there is absolutely no way to make it impossible for people to get drugs on the street when even in a security. Zone like prison you can't keep the drugs out in less. You're going to rock your city down tighter than a prison. Somebody gets called Dylan Belt but if he gets the ball. That's the. Problem. The fact that He. Was, doing? If if we can, if we can keep this color at Luv, do do give them a counter-suggestions. Larry we will continue if you want to hang on, we'll bring you back here eight, fifty, five, four, hundred, fifty free if you WanNa, join us and did actually have a story about this Brianna Tara. Taylor situation a police have not been charged and people are hitting the streets in protests more coming up here. It's free. Talk Live. Macro runaway the rest of you disposition about nine years ago scratchy a lot and started losing impair my bet he's already must be allergic to the chicken not bad at the grain third that he says the weather subpoenaed. And then somebody. I T. E. DOT com. Listening to. Divide. 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But you know if all if a town becomes completely dry, some random junkie is going to say, well, I gotTa have this stuff and I'm GonNa go find it so. Would you agree with you there? I agree with all of that, but you know what? If you have some some person out there that's doing black market work and he gets his blade breakdown out why should people have and hold them up and and some hero or something, and when he gets his brains blew out which he deserves and have rise impair people's business well, well, first off. If. Do you think that addicts in general deserve to die? This way. Do they know that six go to bed? You know why? Because they can make a choice if they wanna go and do that if they were somewhere where they can get it, they wouldn't do it. So it's impairment. Well. What if somebody? What if somebody was depressed for like? Depressed like suicidal suicidally depressed they had a really hard time operating. Would you say that person back? That's what they should. Yeah. You're. Dealing with someone who apparently has no compassion whatsoever for people that are different in different circumstances. Yeah. because. They're trying to force help on the banana non saying if somebody's just depressed if somebody's just depressed and they can't work in, they're having a hard time and they're just useless. It should. Watch commit suicide. So what? Okay. So what that? That's interesting somebody from killing Nextel. Okay. Well, in general I agree with you the people have a right to commit suicide but as Slava over if you want to. Kill themselves. There's nothing you can do about it if there's help available for them and they WANNA set around Kombi and rather than facing the attitudes of life and moving on let them go and settle out with a belly dope I'm sure. He'll get it to them. So that's what they deserve. Cat something to deserve. Tell them. It's fine with me. So if they had like a purge. With with. You know if if they turn to the law, offer a night and said, you can do whatever you want. You can robbery. Whatever you want. I mean, would you actually go after these people D- WanNa see? Thank. You wouldn't opposition. Because, everybody has control over itself are supposed to have some modicum of self preservation built in y'all have self preservation. If you want to commit suicide, there's nothing you can do about it. Everybody else can do about it. So it's not an issue we should. Concentrate on people that are working trying to do something trying to move process here in America port, and that set around slobber along people when they come sell the stance that sport. You know the black community is facing that right now radio radio once. But now hey, black man you're depressed you need to come and go fellas don't, and once you get the ballots well, as though in the diagnosis, you can't get a job right so a lot of our young men walking around slobbering looking stupid he does that take his marriage giving my five thousand dollars imagine my don't give them a job for twenty five right that's where it's going through. Okay. So. So if you wouldn't take action directly to harm somebody who is severely depressed. And you know maybe they'll snap out of it after a little while maybe their wife just died and they're and they're going to be they're going to be bad off for a couple of years maybe but but they get better that's better than him dying when you say. Good. For them. How's that GonNa thank me. For Them Anyway, do you. Get high on crack affect you at all. Then affect me at all but when you say the damage that devastation crack is weak on the black community, which I have saved from its inception you know why feel the way I do? I've. Known Addicted to crack cocaine and it's not just black people. There's plenty of of white people that are Crowley suspect. For six months but I got better. Yeah. I, mean I rejoice back. My neighbors. Let me give you one more example of how to black community was destroyed. You know about jazz don't you? Black people were doing fine but you know just like. Is the is the drumbeat to motor in our community right now, Jasmine's the breakdown of by malls and everything back in the fifties and sixties. You Really GonNa. Play Jazz. Along with it so loud. Sound like a man named 'em slinger to me how neil stuck his arm and then they got a bill or something like that nothing better effort to get us off about plantations and into society where we could be beat down and beats full full of dope. That's all word Martin. Luther King that he was not. Then you're gonNA blame jazz major for that. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA. They know they get Wayman Martin Luther King. Now. He's nothing but A. Nothing. But a mass murderer creep masks my best where your childhood about king's search Reuters. Yeah. That's about Martin Luther Kate. Wow Okay can Christian. Can you give me some support for that because maybe you know things that Oh. No. Okay Bronx businesses, and everything even during the thirties I read a article. Atlantic. Magazine we had our own movie theaters because the most segregated at all schools and we were coming up with race. Right we need it to be segregated. He's froze segregation and is going to say I've heard this argument that this is I don't WanNa hear it anymore. Thank you Larry. We enough time for Larry. Tonight. Thank you for. I Shit. He can call another night and he will let let me give let me give you a slightly different. This is something that somebody was explaining to me friend of mine is black and he was telling me that before Brown versus board of Education. There were black schools that were started by black teachers and black principals who wanted to their passion was to educate. Kids, to improve their community and I can see why they might have not wanted to give their talents to another community of community. Coming Up Free Talk Live. Do you one more businesses accepting bitcoin cash dash? Now with any pay you earn passive income for every purchase at those businesses finally a financial incentive to spread bitcoin cash and dash you made it happen. So you get the rewards, download the any pay cash register APP and add your cryptocurrency wallet addresses then install it at a real life business and tell us what you did at any pay INC DOT com any. 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Phone calls from penitentiary jail whatever from a dope do you Hollering about I love you he wouldn't he's out he shows up at her house would small packages comes out empty-handed or shows up empty-handed incomes out with small package Sarah Stash House. I can't blame the police for. that. But. The city gave her parents twelve million dollars, which is a twelve million dollar apology. We screwed the Pooch we were wrong. these folks got to protest about because they didn't change that dot co law. Deep. Yeah they change. What did they change it to? Now, it's knocking a now which a- better. But it's a step no right direction and you cake everything you want as soon as you want it. Now, when knocking announced, does that mean that as soon as they announced, they can bust the door down or do they have to wait thirty seconds? Banging on your door where they say totally in and he did it with a bad earnings. And you know like I said, it ain't much better. Yeah. But it's a step in the right direction. Believe it or not. I got put out of a hardware store last week for not wearing them back show. I, showed the cat medical exemption. He looks at me here base go I don't care. Get Out I'm like, oh Not, a problem, but he knows ten go. Larry needs to stick his head in the game seven internal yeah. It's music what white folks said about his Presley to all the. Data. The old music has been destroying the next generation effort every generation sense eve. Yep We're still here. Yeah can't make. You can't really play music anymore. So that's kind of done. Can't well nobody. Line I should say, you can't perform the music at least in most cities legally they're just it's not have an audience. Yeah. One no live music baby we had down downtown here has shut down and got the two tables that you can eat out front. Would you what all the restaurants downtown done is potatoes out. In thirty days is going to be too cold outside yeah. Oh, don't worry. They're already planning. Really. LAIMA. Ways to deal with that here in in the Boston area, we're not in new in Massachusetts. DOWN IN BOSTON. They are building what they call Igloos. Lose couples. I know what you're saying there nobody. You know you've told me that. So many times I know we're talking about actual. Actual plastic encased tables basically that people can then sit outdoors even when it's cold outside because they're too afraid to go inside. Wow. Well, say. CK PAYING GIMMICK, I've ever heard. Yeah. That's why nobody's been asking people's like, well, do you know anybody who sick? Yeah. That's my activism basically, I don't know anybody who knows anybody who knows anybody who knows anybody who's been sick everybody I've seen who say, oh, I know someone who's sick is being some strange facebook. And I have looked like paid actors. Yeah, it's the craziest craziest thing I've ever seen and yeah my the simplest form of activism the how many people do you know that that are sick will nobody wow that seems strange during pandemic doesn't it but I don't know any either now that you mention it. You know it makes them think. If somebody doesn't know someone else who's sick I'd like to know if they've died. person. Why Founding percent. What we're doing all this for yeah, and that's that's the official numbers which we all know are blown up. So it's probably more like zero point zero zero. Four or something to add another zero in there. I don't go rhino. It sure is Kirby anything else you WANNA share tonight. Not. Thanks for the call man. I definitely appreciate hearing from you our toll free number. If you WANNA join US eight, fifty, five, four, fifty, free. He was talking about Brianna Taylor where she has was shot by the police and apparently protesters have taken to the streets after a grand jury brought no charges against the Louisville police in that particular case according to the AP. Apparently couple cops were shot and wounded Wednesday night during the demonstrations expressing anger over the killings of black people at the hands of police and the thing is I mean the the declaration of Independence says that the job that government has one job you have one job government and that is to defend our liberty. Okay L. Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and furthermore, it says that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it. I've been trying to do that for years, but they just don't care well me too and the thing is they don't as long as you don't shoot back at them. They don't care because they'll just kill you if you get too much in the way and so the bottom line is when when when the when the community is waging war on the police then as far as I'm concerned community is right and the police should stand down and go home. So I gotta say I mean in that situation, they can be said to be in a state of revolt state of revolution in within their rights to make war on the police. But when you're making war, you have to limit collateral damage for two reasons. First reason is if you do too much collateral damage, you're GonNa make a bunch of enemies and glues. And the second reason is you don't have a right to take other people's lives. WHO NON-COMBAT IT? You can't do that in war. If you'RE GONNA make it a war, you have to make it a war and that means you don't. attack. Civilians. Attack people around fighting you WanNa comment you can join us here. Our toll free number is eight, five, five, four, fifty free were also telling you that mask ordinances may be going from bad to worse if what's happening in Nashua in Nashua New Hampshire is any indication where now the city council there has voted thirteen to to strengthen their already existing mask mandate. Now, not only can they find the individual up to one thousand dollars if they're caught without a mask in or around businesses in Nashville, but now the business themselves as well as the employees will also. Be. Subject to fines of up to two thousand dollars if they are caught providing services or goods to any person not complying with face covering requirements and I presume that that is going into effect immediately So that's bad. Really Bad You know if you thought you were already a second class person because you didn't WanNa wear masks. Now they are going to refuse to give you food. It's like the complete nobody eight, fifty, five, four, fifty, free. 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