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US officials express concern over possible shortage of COVID-19 vaccine
"More more than than 3000 3000 people people dying dying from from Corona Corona virus virus every every day day here here in in this this country. country. There There is is a a sign sign of progress. Though the number of new cases is declining significantly, vaccines are the key to making sure that trend continues. But getting the vaccines where they need to go has been problematic. NPR's Allison Aubrey joins us now. Hi, Allison. Good morning, Rachel. All right. We're gonna start with some numbers about 22 million shots have been given which is good. That's about half of the total doses that have been distributed across the country, though. So you've got 20 million other doses available. And yet some cities in hospitals say they're running out of the vaccine. How is this disconnect? Explain this, right? Okay, so I know it sounds counterintuitive, but they're actually two things happening at once. Right? Okay. So manufacturing is accelerating. Visor and Madonna have distributed more than 40 million doses around the country to every county, every state. But many more people are now eligible to get the shot at a time when states are just figuring out logistically Rachel how to scale this up, and that's creating a bottleneck. I mean, some places they're doing better than others. I spoke to Dr Mark Boom, he's CEO of Houston Methodist, part of the colossal Texas Medical Center system. Now they're using doses as fast as they can receive them. But it's not enough. Each week. We run out waiting for our next shipment. It's really a supply constraints issue. We coordinate across our city's about doing this as quickly as possible. So we're confident we can do this. As a community. It's just a matter of getting more supplied more quickly. Yeah. So at this moment, the vaccines are still think of them as a scarce resource, and that creates anxiety. It creates confusion right and this helps account for all these stories. We're hearing about people who get an appointment to get the vaccine, and then they get a phone call or an email saying your appointment's been canceled or postponed. So, I mean, can the vaccine makers just produce market they produce enough to help meet the demand and the Biden administration's goal of 100 million doses in 100 days? Well, you know, administration officials think so and look to be fair, even as the new administration came in last week about a million doses a day were already being administered, which is what's needed to meet that goal if we stay on track, but there are now lots of head winds to keep this going, White House Chief Chief of Staff Ron Clean said on NBC yesterday. There are multiple challenges. It's a very complex process that needs help on all fronts. We need more vaccine. We need more vaccinate whores. We need more vaccination sites. So he's saying there's a lot of challenges there, including the need to produce more vaccines, huh? That's right. We got to go back to that. I mean Fizer of modern it need to deliver millions of more doses per week. Rachel to stay on track, and this is tricky. These companies have to scale up factory capacity deal with supply chain issues. And remember this is brand new. It's the first time I am already technology has been used at this massive scale. I spoke to Dr Josh Sharfstein of Johns Hopkins University. He's been being considered for the top posted the FDA, he says. Given how complicated this is the urgency, Majorino, Fizer and other companies may need help, including maybe the use of the Defense production act to boost shortfalls. Just hoping that the company's alone will come through may not be enough. And so one of the key aspects of the Biden plan is to roll up the government sleeves and say, How can we make sure you have the supplies? You need the machines you need and potentially even expand your production capacity. So big picture here, Rachel, this is going to take some time. Many months. I mean, another potential challenge occurs to me. What about folks who've gotten their first dose? Right? This is a two does vaccine So they've gotten the first shot. But what if they can't get the second shot on time? Is that okay? What? Mm. The CDC says the second dose should be administered as close to the recommended intervals possible, which is three weeks for the fire, Sir vaccine four weeks for the Madonna vaccine. However, if this isn't feasible, that agency says the second dose can be delayed administered up to 42 days after the first toast. I spoke to physician Gabe Kelen at Johns Hopkins University about this. He's overseeing the vaccine distribution there at the university. So in their preliminary studies, you know when they looked at what is the shortest reasonable time to give a booster turned out to be three weeks and four weeks? That doesn't mean giving the booster at six weeks isn't justice affected for longer term? Community. You know, he says there is limited data here, so no one knows exactly how long this gonna extend out. But it makes good sense that there's legal room here.
"ron clean" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Ron Clean is the chief of staff elect. Who would be serving the president elect? Sure, the president elect actually be elected now. We've played this before, but I'm doing this for me Reason. Remember Ron Clain in 2009, who had been Joe Biden's chief of staff when Joe Biden was vice president. Talking about the handling of the 2009 h one n one swine flu. Remember this? Cut seven Go. I just had a couple things. I mean, I was in the White house in 9 4010. I was working for Vice President Biden. I wasn't involved directly in the eye. 21 response. But I lived through the White House staffer and what I would say about it is a bunch of really talented, really great people working on it, and we did every possible thing wrong. And it's 60. Million Americans about H one N one, uh, in that period of time, and it's just purely a fortuity that this isn't one of the great mass casualty event in American history. Nothing to do with us doing anything right? Just had to do with luck. On. So if anyone thinks that this can't happen again, I have to go back to 1918. They just have to go back to 9 4010 Imagine a virus for the differently finality and you can just Do the math on that. Okay, We've done the math on it. Who was in charge of infectious diseases back then. Anthony Fauci was in charge of that. They also had this. Ebola's scare in the United States never amounted to much, quite frankly. I thought she was on CNN today. What it felt. You think Of Ron Clain and Democrats and how they handle themselves with respect to the Ebola cut. Six go, and that's how I got to work very closely with Ron Klink was Ron. Was the coordinator of this offer. Ebola's and did a spectacular job with that, and hopefully, you know we can do the same sort of thing around round did a spectacular job trump really stinks. And I was not so good. Ron was spectacular. With the bone. We never seen anything like it before. So, Ron Klain says, when they had the bigger problem, the swine flu What have we ever I tell you why we were lucky. Absolute for Tony. It's yes. Maybe it was a fortuity. And we're great mass casualty event. It could have been. You don't have to look at 1917 Look at 2000. Look at how bad we were like I always screwed up. Enough time. Look at us. I am. You idiot. Really looking us now us would include Fauci. Right? Folks. Fauci wasn't the one who pressed with the vaccine. The president Wasps Thought she's not the one who was involved. In getting the vaccine in the vials and the needles produced the president Wasps. The president and his team was involved in figuring out how to distribute it. When the fires of vaccine requires 70 degrees below zero, So it's not so simple. You don't just throw him in the back of the van and move him. On a train to move them. You have to have Really freezer cars. You have to have a lot of Ah Different of carriage of different kinds of cases and so forth and take care of it. So It's really appalling. This guy thought she's always been a liberal. He's a Democrat. He's a hanger on. Not the same job for 36 37 years without crushing somebody who wants to move up. You know that Elizabeth wants my job That's not gonna happen. No way I can allow that. Go ahead..
"ron clean" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Conservative media empire for the next I agree with you 1000% Dan from Oklahoma. Thank you very much. Let's continue with more. I'm gonna put a call into Kevin Jackson in the black spear dot net. Get his perspective bill cutting him Great America with you every Sunday night. NEWS Nation this hour. I'm Roger. Bad ish on ABC is this week program the top scientific adviser for Operation Warp Speed. Doctor Moncef slowly says a Food and Drug Administration advisory committee next month will meet to review the request by Fizer and Moderna for emergency use authorization for their covert vaccines. Wendy FDA On December 10th for Fizer and on December 17 for Moderna reviews and gets the advice from its advisory committee of independent experts. On hopefully approves the vaccine slowly says the first immunizations could happen on December 12. He says plans are to ship vaccines to states within 24 hours of expected FDA approval. Officials in Pennsylvania cannot certify election results that currently show Democrat Joe Biden winning the state by more than 80,000 votes. News Nation reporter Michael Sure what we're hearing now is another defeat from the Trump campaign by another judge, this judge Matthew Brand and Pennsylvania who dismissed the case against Against state of Pennsylvania, saying this court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations in the United States America. This cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the votes of the sixth most populated state, but now the president is appealing that ruling. He and other players filed notice to the third U. S Circuit Court of Appeals on Sunday. President elect to Biden's first Cabinet picks coming Tuesday and planning is underway for a pandemic modified inauguration in January as his team moves forward. Biden's incoming chief of staff, Ron Clean, is offering no details about which Department heads Biden would first announce pop stars Justin Bieber and Sean Mendez kicked off the 2020 American Music Awards with the performance of their new duet Monster, which was officially released on Friday. Watch news Nation every night on WGN America or go on the news nation. Now, after news around the.
Biden to Name First Cabinet Members Tuesday
"Rejecting democracy. I'm pam himself. Fox news that charge from president. Elect joe biden's incoming chief of staff as president trump tries to overturn the results of the election. It's corrosive it's harmful but as mitt romney said it's not going to change the outcome of what happens here ron clean on. Abc's this week as team biden moves forward. We will be making our first cabinet announcements on tuesday of this week and I would say the president-elect is very excited about this team and it looks forward to introducing them to the country kate. Betting field is a senior adviser with the biden harris transition. She was on fox news.
Inside Biden's COVID-19 Team
"A big part of what's lean gander is doing this week is being a spokesperson. Getting the biden. Message out about what they need and what they plan to do. The president-elect as talked about appealing to governors to try to enforce mask mandates it. Do you think those would make a difference because there are places like new york. Where you and i both live where those are in place and yet we've got big outbreaks in different communities. Well i think the key is that one how enforceable is a mandate to who is issuing the mandate. Is it somebody that these communities respect. Believe trust and i think that makes a national mandate both enforcement issues as well as the trust shoes very challenging. I do think you know a mandate coming from a governor. For example governor of south dakota that would be taken very differently would be received very differently by people in south dakota. Then if the president were issuing that same mandate should we have a national testing plan or has the boat sailed on that already so the current administration has actively discouraged. Testing has said oh. We're testing too much. That is definitely not what you're going to hear under the new administration if anything you're going to see a massive ramping up of testing and really trying especially in communities of color that have been really hard hit to make sure we have much better equity in access. But who's who's responsible for that. Is that this sort of patchwork we've got now of some state some cities. Some urgent cares or is it the federal government saying okay. We're doing widespread testing. Yeah this is the place where you're going to see. The federal government really stepping in one of the places where they could have a real impact is invoking the defense production act that would mean the federal government could compel manufacturers to crank up production. President trump has done this to a limited degree but the biden team wants to use the law. More broadly both with respect to personal protective equipment as well as scaling up production of test kits. So i i really do think we need a national plan here and that will include testing Not just people who have symptoms but people who have no symptoms expanding testing and encouraging mask. Mandates are things president-elect biden could do once. He takes office in january. That's two months from now. Normally an incoming administration would be getting information from the outgoing one. But selene says that's not happening. How much does president. Trump's refusal to concede and this sort of official transition being stuck in limbo. How much does that get in your way. Well that's a huge problem. We know historically that transitions are real period of vulnerability for the country in terms of national security. And that's whether that's a a foreign threat a terrorist threat or a threat like the corona virus and so that really could very well translate into americans dying unnecessarily to give you some examples of the kind of information we want and we can't get company gloves. do we have. How many syringes. Where are we in negotiating contracts with pharmaceutical companies with the logistics of delivery. Where are we in terms of developing databases to track who's gotten vaccinated who needs to be vaccinated. I mean those are things that are in a wait and boring nuts and bolts kind of stuff. But that's the stuff that you need to be able to plan a big response like this in terms of scaling affects nations even if the to really promising looking ones pfizer moderna if they are skilled up distribution. Is this huge challenge. How are you all thinking about vaccine distribution and getting it into the communities that that need it most so why you have to scale up. The this is where really moving forward with. The transition is really going to be important because we need to have a better understanding. What's happening on the inside with the pharmaceutical company capacity. And then once you've manufactured these doses how how do you distribute them in wear and some of that will depend on the characteristics of the vaccines. So you know the the pfizer vaccine needs to be deep-frozen minus seventy celsius. Well most family doctors. I don't know that any family doctors have the capacity to store a vaccine at that temperature. a lot of community hospitals will not have that kind of capacity either. And so what you're really looking at is having probably big academic hospital centers major health systems. Maybe pharmaceutical retail chains having central depots. Where they can do that kind of storage. But that means it's going to be harder to deliver that vaccine in particular to rural areas. So my guess is you're going to see the pfizer vaccine really targeted to urban areas. That have the capacity to deal with what we call that cold chain of freezing whereas the modern vaccine which is Which has less stringent temperature requirements in his relatively stable for a month at higher temperatures. You're going to see them journal. Vaccine probably prioritized for rural areas. And as you know a couple other vaccines emerged from the pipeline. You'll see further and further sort of targeting based on how easy it is to get those vaccines to those parts of the country. How effective those particular vaccines are for. Certain patient populations you know he might have pfizer here new york city and you might have maduna in rural wyoming listening to you. Describe the kind of logistics around that. I keep thinking about communities that have been particularly hard hit when we are talking about black and brown communities indigenous communities Ease there. I guess a painful chance that given the kind of medical infrastructure that some of these vaccines require that they're going to be doubly hit in the vaccine rollout process. Yeah this is something that we're really attentive to an it is a tricky one because there are issues a vaccine skepticism and hesitancy in some of these communities for good reason. And if you say we're going to prioritize communities of color for vaccination there will be a contingent of people who will say. Oh so we're going to be guinea pigs for this new vaccine so you have to address those very real concerns even while you are trying to prioritize because the fact is these are communities whether it's the navajo in the southwest or the south bronx here in new york city is their communities have been hit really hard and continue even now to be. Hit harder So we really do need to prioritize them if we're going to maximize the impact of the vaccines. We've been talking about trust. And i have to ask you about one of your colleagues on the advisory board Zeke emanuel who quite famously wrote an essay. saying he'd like to die at seventy five and that made a lot of people in the disability community really angry. How do you get their trust. I noticed the president-elect mentioned them specifically in his speech how do you their trust with him as a part of this group. Well i don't really want to speak to to zeke in particular but in terms of the disability community ron clean and i actually co hosted a podcast together. He had to step away for biden campaign. Were going to be the chief of staff. He's going to be the chief of staff for for President-elect biden and ron and i interviewed early on during the pandemic rebecca coakley. Who's with the center for american progress. Who is a disability rights. Activist really did listen to her concerns. Were really very much attentive to the needs of that community as well so we are taking notes. We are reaching out to people from the disability community to better understand what policies they need.
"ron clean" Discussed on CNN Political Briefing
"Plus joe biden's plan to take on the economy that has been crippled by the pandemic and finally former president obama not holding back on his book. Tour we are sixty five days away. From joe biden's inauguration as the forty six president of the united states of america. And yet he can't actually start planning for that job in earnest in the way that all of his predecessors were able to do which is to engage with the current administration and have his team engage with people at each agency to have a smooth transfer of power from one administration to the next. The reason joe biden and his team are not able to do that is because the sitting president of the united states donald trump refuses to allow his administration to begin that formal process to make the declaration that indeed joe biden won the election. No the sitting president of the united states still tweeting today that he won the election which he didn't and you heard a joe biden last week. Who was trying to put forth calming presence and trying to turn down the temperature on this but that is a week ago. Folks we are in a whole new world now. Biden's incoming chief of staff ron clean was on meet the press this weekend where he was making clear. He's not joining his boss at the moment. In this notion that oh everything could proceed as normal even without this process. No ron clean is saying the trump administration has to move forward with this process known as ascertainment from the general services administration to actually allow the formal transition process to begin but the trump appointee who has to complete. That task is not going to do that when her boss. The president is still acting like the election has not been decided. This is becoming a problem. And you're hearing it from every corner now. It is not just a liberals with their hair on fire. That trump won't acknowledge the election results. You hearing it. From across the spectrum. In the united states government whether on covid from dr fauci and others or on the economy or on national security matters you are hearing from people who say their ease a real need for a smooth transition to take place. And that's not happening. The president's also hearing from some members of his own party like governor larry hogan maryland. Today the time has come more and more people very close supporters and friends and the president are all getting out of ice listening. Even the president's national security adviser robert o'brien was out today acknowledged that as he said things certainly look that way. Now when referring to that joe biden is going to become the next president of the united states and he pointed out the need for new administration to have some time to wrap their heads around the current sort of hot spots around the world before they actually start their jobs on january twentieth. If the biden harris ticket is determined to be the winner and and and and you know obviously things look that way. now we'll have a very professional transition from the national security council. There's no question about it. It's clear that joe biden's pursuing a political strategy where he's trying not to create chaos here. He's really trying to do what he promised. The entire campaign he would do restore the soul of the nation Not governed by tweet That whole notion of sort of a return to normalcy. That's sort of his intrinsic desire but the reality is sixty five days away two weeks after election day eleven days or so after the election was actually a projected for joe biden and there are fundamental things cannot take place and we are in the midst of a raging pandemic. And just today we have this fantastic news from moderna joining pfizer now with what is apparently a really successful really effective vaccine that is getting ready for. Fda approval At least for emergency. Use and for mass distribution i to those first responders and the vulnerable populations and then to the population at large will how the heck is a biden administration going to start planning for what is going to be their most important task at the outset of getting these vaccines distributed to the american public if indeed. There's no formal cooperation with the trump administration. That is just an unbelievably irresponsible position that the current president and his team are taking. And i think what you're seeing as we enter now yet another week with no movement on this front some concern from even joe biden himself that something needs to give more people may die if we don't coordinate if we have to wait until january twentieth start that planning it.
"ron clean" Discussed on 1A
"Plus dollars as the company's shares were soaring over this really promising news about the vaccine and it's effective rate. Now the company says that this transaction was part of a regularly scheduled plan set up by the ceo to periodically sell some of his pfizer shares. And that does happen. These kind of preplanned selloffs and the said that. He didn't learn about the news of the vaccine. I think until sunday night so a day before it was announced so it still nevertheless has raised. You know the maybe inevitable collusion here that these companies are gonna make a lot of money off of this drug and that is obviously a very powerful incentive for many of them to go into developing these usually. It takes billions of dollars and years and years to develop a vaccine. These companies are effectively trying to do it in a year and a half or two years in the case of pfizer. They've done largely with their own money. They do have guaranteed commitments to buy the drug by the combined the government but they were not part of this operation warp speed plan where they received government funding nevertheless these executives are going to have to answer the questions. You know how you making sure that this is on the up and and explaining to people as best they can. I guess why this is just sort of an inevitable end of the development of these drugs. People are going to make a lot of money. Let's look ahead of it here. At the presidential election president elect joe biden. Isn't wasting any time preparing to take office in january. He named a chief of staff. Wednesday and named a corona virus taskforce earlier in the week. Jane tell us about biden's new chief of staff ron clean. Who is he so wrong. Clan is someone who with deep experience. And he's been he served as chief of staff to two vice presidents al gore from nineteen ninety five ninety nine and he was joe biden's chief of staff from two thousand nine two hundred eleven and he's also been an extremely he's been a big critic of donald trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic partly because he served as the abol czar so to speak under president obama during a brief outbreak of the extremely deadly disease during obama's second term. And so this is someone. They've worked together biden. End ron clean have worked together. Numerous times in a statement. President-elect biden talked about him being an invaluable adviser talking about the worth they did on the economic crisis back in two thousand nine and But instead that his deep varied experience and capacity to work with people is precisely what i needn't white house chief of staff and i think that this is a relationship that goes back many years and really goes to show that biden will be attempting to draw back on the experiences. He's had in dc as he becomes president seeing lots of praise from other elected officials as well on on social is. Is that pretty much. The sentiment around ron. Yeah i think that there has been a sense that this is the one this was expected. I think that there were a lot of people who thought that this. This is where it was going to go. But i also think that there is a sense that this this was the choice that joe biden was not only expected to make but should make we are rounding up the week's top stories with fox's jane colston shane harris of the washington post and alexandra.
"ron clean" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Bright to the new cova response team that he put together. I was wondering your thoughts on that. And what you think of the new team. And ron clean now as as chief of staff who as you know handled abullah as joe biden's chief of staff when he was vice president under the obama administration. Chris on rick right. I was so happy to see that. Because he certainly a back in april when the whistler playing he was absolutely mysteries. I remember sitting in my office watching the headline hit and run them. Hell of the crisis planning. And i remember looking up in thinking this man. They're going to. They're going to try to destroy him and the amount of courage that tuck and remember thinking what he's doing so courageous in it i. It's important and i'm so to see him. Land on the transition team as an expert especially on the vaccine efforts on what was going on the fda inside of the health and human services. I think with is a big win. He'll certainly know the background that happened along the way and what could have been done. That just wasn't and you. And i think that team that assembled its experts. It's clear that joe biden comment. They do believe in science. That's the basic fundamental thing. Right now i just heard ably when i say that because it just seems like common sense but that is unfortunately where we are in america. I guess our leadership. Currently internship does not. And i think at an wrong. I thought that was a great appointment. I mean given his background. And i know that he is very level-headed leader. Which i think will be needed during this time and to me i mean i was very happy to see that too which i had someone like that working when i was in the white house things. I think would've been a lot different if we had. I agree that i agree with that. It was actually just really it. Felt so good to hear about ron clean and this cova task force Biden's and to be like. Oh my gosh. Experts scientists not economists or non-lawyers like bossy. Or whoever you know is part of this. So that was very very comforting. I just have a couple more questions for you. About specific things like vaccination efforts and the impact of on hispanic and black communities. And how how this impasse sort of impacts. That would you be willing to hang out with me just for a quick break and to answer those questions gesture okay. Great everybody will be right back. Everyone it's ag for the daily beans podcast. Have you ever thought about your cellular health. Yeah i i never did really much either i mean why would we well tell you. Why because cells are the foundation of her house. They make us who we are. Building blocks right and one of the important building. Blocks of ourselves is called. Nasd which is vital for things like sleeping breathing eating drinking some of the stuff we don't think about the bad news is as we get older. We get orders. We our.
"ron clean" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Trump's legal challenges of election results fail spectacularly time and again bar is sweeping cases under the rug it may justice. Trump's recount fundraising efforts. See money going directly to trump himself and the rnc and not the recount. Effort biden continues with his transition. Appointing ron clean. As his chief of staff to s- james gets trump or financial documents from allen. Weisselberg trump turns multiple appointee positions permanent and a senior. Us cyber security officials forced to resign. I'm your host eiji. Hey everybody we have a big show. Today i sat down today for almost thirty little over thirty minutes with olivia troy that discussion about the impact that the delayed transition by gsa. Emily murphy has on our ability to fight cova. She's olivia troy can remember. She's a former task force members on Pence's task force Before that she was with department of homeland security spending government a long time. She's a whistle blower. She's been speaking out on motto. And she has. She's breaking some news with us so stay tuned for our daily beans exclusive. Just to only you'll only hear it here. And it's friday which means amy caro- will be here to read the good news with me at the end of the show. I always love. Friday's because i always love sheera so stick around for that. In the meantime there are a lot of headlines today. We're getting back into that shit. Show lullaby that fire. Hose of news where we were. We had a brief respite over the weekend. Joe biden was announced a winner. But here we are and there's a lot of news so.
"ron clean" Discussed on NPR News Now
"Live from npr news. I'm korva coleman the. Us is setting new records with corona virus. More than one hundred forty four thousand diagnosed infections were reported in the us yesterday according to johns hopkins university. That's daily record. High more than sixty five thousand people are in hospitals ill with cove nineteen. That's a record high number two and the death toll from the disease in the. Us is nearly two hundred forty two thousand people. The centers for disease control and prevention now says that wearing a mask protects both the wearer and other people from the virus. Npr's maria guei has more when the city see verse recommended that americans were cloth face coverings back in april. It pointed to evidence that people infected with the corona virus could transmit the virus to others. Even if they weren't showing symptoms masks were intended to protect others from any infectious droplets. The wearer might be emitting. But now the cdc says there's growing evidence that cloth masks also protect the wearer by reducing the amount of infectious droplets. Inhale and it says the protective benefits of mass become stronger as greater numbers of people wear masks consistently and correctly public health experts. Hope the new messaging from cdc will encourage more people to wear masks. Maria getaway npr news. President elect joe biden has spoken to a number of foreign leaders. Npr's anthony kuhn says biden has offered reassurances in phone calls with leaders of japan and south korea biden spoke to prime minister. Yoshihiko suge in president moon jae. In on thursday morning tokyo and seoul time all free leaders reaffirmed the importance of the decades old alliances with the us biden. Restated the position of past administrations that the us's treaty obligations to defend. Japan include the senkaku or in chinese islands in the east china sea administered by japan but also claimed by china moon and suge both pledged to cooperate with biden on the cove pandemic and climate change biden his pledged to end the trump administration's policy of pressuring allies to pay more for the cost of stationing. Us troops in their countries. Anthony kuhn npr news soul president elect joe biden has named one of the first consequential members of his incoming administration longtime biden confidante and advisor ron clean will be.
"ron clean" Discussed on The Andrew Klavan Show
"Into. I think is what you're thinking miss. I think it means what you think. It means Doctor FAUCI. This is emptiness again. This is emptiness if we. If we don't believe in the truth. If you don't believe in the truth, you can't then say you know. It's inconceivable that people don't believe in my authority. Don't believe in the authority of the institutions are institutions are in very bad shape? They are decadent, and they are empty and we as conservatives have not spoken enough about what we need in you know. like, it always bothers. You know you know that I've always supported gay rights all the stuff, but it always bothers me that we've never found a way. I mean even even if you think homosexuality is a sin. It's fine. Forty percent of the kids. According to the Salvation Army forty percent of the kids on the street are gay or some kind of alphabet soup, and listen. Those are probably people who've been thrown out of their homes by conservative people right so that can't be right. That can't be right. But certainly certainly, there's no reason that we have to attack people to say that. The building block building block of our society is a man and a woman. If we can't say that what we believe in, what are we believe in you know I mean is this always drives me crazy it doesn't you know I I've always said that just because something is not at the centre, Society doesn't mean as bad right I. I mean violin plane isn't at the center of society. It's a good, so if we don't if we're empty if we don't believe in something what scientists have to believe in above all is science, science is not Oh, a scientist, said something. Science is a way of finding the truth and testing it experimentally it is a way of theorizing about the truth through observation and theory and hypothesis, and then testing it by experiment. Computer? Models are not science. The scientific part of a computer model is the computer that's very nice invention of science, but just because you pour your stupid ideas into a computer, and it comes out with stupid predictions doesn't make that any more scientific than any other predictions. Okay, so when you say to me when you say to me, Oh, the world is going to end in twelve years unless we go back to. To, the Stone Age and live in caves, and except for Alexandria occasional. Cortez because she's it's important. She's going to need a limousine and planes to go to Davos and talk about how we can't use fossil fuels, but except for that the rest of are GonNa have to live in caves because we've had a computer model. SAYING WORLD IS GONNA end for twelve years. And then you say to me Oh. You're anti-science. Trust. Science I actually do trust lines I? Trust Science to be science. I trust it to be a method of finding out about the material world when scientists guys like Steven, pinker, come out disc God without knowing anything about theology and makes me distrust everything else. He says when they come out and say you know like I'm a scientist, and there's No God. You know. I know there's No god, because life is random, you know I just think like this guy's. An idiot. Biologist, but he doesn't know what he's talking about because I have read more about this than he has. So why should I listen to? They undermine themselves with their emptiness and with their lives, and so now you've got this whole thing you know it's. It's really interesting. Joe, Biden has continually said that he was taking care of the swine flu. Remember the swipe. It was two thousand nine, each one in one. They said because they didn't want to be bigoted against swine. Called it the h one n one killed a lot of people, but didn't become a major major disaster. Why because it wasn't as deadly as people feared it was. Ron Clean was Joe Biden's chief of staff. Okay, he was Joe Biden's chief of staff and he said he didn't. He wasn't involved in the fight against swine flu, but he was there as an observer as the chief of staff. Here's what he said about the Joe Biden and his staff's reaction to it. I lived through the White House out her and what I will say about. It is a bunch of really talented. Really great people working on it and we did every possible thing wrong. And it's you know. Sixty million Americans got h one n one in that period of time, and it's just purely fortuity that this isn't one of the Great Mass Casualty Events American history had nothing to do with. Doing anything right just had to do with luck. and so if anyone thinks that this can't happen again to go back to nineteen eighteen, they just have to go back to two thousand, nine, two, thousand and ten imagine virus with the differently Foudy, and you.
"ron clean" Discussed on The Dan Bongino Show
"So pathetic but LIBS. Don't worry keep putting your faith in government. It's so great government so wonderful. Thank God our private sectors building masks ventilators right now. Thank God and that is not using the Lord's name in vain that is a capital literally. Pray to God and thank him. Every day for freedom and economic freedom if you lived in a socialist country controlled by liberal idiots then that ventilator problem in the DNR's would be a problem yesterday. More hysteria merchants here is the absolutely hapless. Ron Clean Ron claim. Al Gore noted Butt Kisser. His lip surgically sewed to the rear end of former vice. President failed presidential candidate. Al Gore here is Ron Klein. Who again remember the liberals they only want experts on on pandemics? Joe Ron claim as political hack was appointed by Obama for the Ebola virus outbreak Ron Clean. You may say Dr Clay. No not Dr Ron. Clean that HSWAN. Fleeing this is ron claim to political hack who Obama appointed to run the Oboe Bala Task Force again. Not Dr Shawn Lean. This is ron claim. Disguise the new Messiah on the Left. You haven't heard see many of you don't hear this stuff because you don't follow liberal blue checkmark accounts on twitter. Who are the dumbest people in the twitter sphere? I can't tell you because I don't want him to block me but follow them to see what's going on. This guy's their new messiah. Ron Clean the former Ebola guys out there on blackboards and stuff doing these things to try to scare everyone all the time. Here's Ron Clain tweeting about. Trump's response check this out to tweets. If you're not at your job today is because Donald Trump did not do his job in January and February to fight the corona virus Ron clean political. Hack garbage person. Ron Clean suggesting their jaw. That trump's decisions in January to ban travel to prevent the Wuhan China virus from getting over here suggesting that decisions in January and February to ban travel from the European Union suggesting Joe that he didn't do any of that that he under react. That's interesting because that's not. What Ron Clean was saying in January or February because Ron Cleans a moron? Brian Cleans a political hack. But other tweet from Ron. Clean on cove. Nineteen if you want to do something useful today. Go to Chinatown by a meal. Go shopping way way way. This is rocket. Didn't you just say trump was terrible for playing this thing down the virus attacks humans not people of any ethnicity or race. Fear is hurting Chinese American owned businesses. Basically baselessly let's fight the disease and let's fight the prejudice. So Ron Clean again. Not Dr Sh- MOM LANE RON CLEAN. Political garbage person was telling you it is tweet a little while ago. Coa Out and eat everywhere. Chinese restaurants. Dopey racist Carl races. The same Ron claims telling you in January and February. That trump wasn't taking this seriously. These are the garbage people. Ladies Gentlemen put his name in Twitter. The left is worshiping this guy. Oh my gosh. Thank the Lord show by Nazran Clean Around. He such an. I got two videos. Where you here? Here's a hapless moron clean testifying about. Don't you worry folks? This is an overreaction. The president doesn't know what he's doing overreaction he's out saying the president under react. You remember liberals have no principles. They don't actually mean what they say but they really want to rally. Here's cut one of Ron Clean. It is impossible impossible to cut off the flow of people from China to the United States. There needed to bring vital goods to the United States by boat in by plane. We have Americans coming back to and from back from China family member so and so forth so my point about travel bans is is beyond the effectiveness issues that Dr new has raised as a practical matter. We don't have one. We will never have one. And therefore what we need to do is to monitor the people who've been China recently for here in the US and impose public health measures on a mat on very large skills as complicated so hard problem to detect. If those people get sick isolate them and to treat them. That's the academics. It's the only practical solution on the facts. Yeah Ron Clown. So there's Ron Clown thank you. Yeah I needed that. There's Ron Clown who now is saying trump under react in January and February back in January and February. Saying trump overreacted. That's him knocking. The China travel bed. That happened in January and February when Ron Clown said that trump didn't do anything here's Ron Clown again on. Why Europe travel by this is no good either. They gentlemen broncos. Rachel is the classic trump distraction tactic. He wants to see progressives debate to travel and so and so forth and not come after where he has failed. We have tested five people at every million in this country and career. They've tested two thousand people out of every million in their country. There is no reason why South Korea doesn't have technology we don't have or healthcare system. We don't have anything we don't have. It is a failure of leadership of the trump administration. He is doing anything he can move the conversation elsewhere to get us to talk about something else and not focus even tonight even in an Oval Office address. All I can say about testing is we're going to do more of it sometime. Yeah some number of people having to. We're getting their great. That's that's job want. There's Ron Clown who does two things in their magically. Cellphones HIMSELF AGAIN. But again liberals are not smart enough to see it so they spread these clips around not realizing that their dramatic cell phones and the Liberals are celebrated so this to cell phones in their. You may have caught him. So Ron Clown was the E. Bola Task Force Manager for Obama. And not a doctor at all. No scientific background whatsoever run. Clem Ron Clown was in charge of the testing regimen for a bowl of for viral outbreak. Pandemics he was the task force member so when the old FDA CDC kind of symbiosis of surveillance testing rather than mass testing was standard. For the quote Obama Playbook Ron Clown said nothing so the testing model. We've used in this country for which no serious person is only garbage people. Tell you with us. Ladies and gentlemen the testing model we used for this. Cdc private sector kind of again. Fda symbiosis the testing for pandemic outbreak. How do we test was surveillance surveillance? Meaning they did not. We did not do mass testing. That is not the model. The Obama Administration the Bush. All of that was the model. Was Surveillance Show in other words. Someone comes in you test them. The test goes to the. Cdc copy. Never did ron claim when he was the Ebola chair never did. He propose mass testing for the whole population. Like trump is actually doing now. He Changed a whole paradigm trump in weeks in weeks and Clain who was on board with the Old Testament Paradigm. That is now failed. That trump changed he's now using it as a bludgeon to attack trump and liberal suck it up because they just don't know any better ron clean on tests. He was the old failed model guy. Oh my gosh name that cell phone number one cell phone number two farrand clown this e. You travel bans a distraction from the testing. Do you. What do you mean the travel ban from Europe? The travel ban that prevented other infections as people came here from Italy. You just said trump under react in January. Now you're suggesting he overreacted. I don't get a clown Mr Clown. Of course you don't get it either. 'cause YOU'RE A political garbage person. That's what you do all right folks. There was a lot of material this week. I know word been heavy on this. But it's obviously the story maybe of the decade brand. Now I mean the two thousand twenty is way to start off but we have to stay on top of this serious problem. I appreciate your loyalty to the show. Our numbers have been pretty extraordinary. And I thank you means a lot to mando. You have a lot of choices listening choices and I appreciate you come in. Please subscribe to a Youtube. Channel YouTube dot com slash Bongino. We really appreciate that. Subscriptions are always free. No charge to you at all. Free Video -Sego. You don't even need cable. Thanks a lot folks. I'll see you all next week day. Sir You just heard the Dan. Bongino show followed in on twitter. Twenty four seven at Dbongino..
Q&A: Coronavirus expert speaks about the spread of COVID-19 Pandemic
"So I'm really confused as to what the difference between a pandemic an epidemic is regardless of. Whatever you call it. People are starting to panic us. Everyone just going to be working remotely and avoiding travel for the foreseeable future. So just how serious is the corona virus situation really for you personally? There's no question. There is not really a sector of our society that has not been impacted by what has happened over. The last several weeks having covered a lot of these outbreaks over the last twenty years. I knew that the economy would be affected. But I don't think anyone could have predicted. Just how badly corona virus fears coupled with an oil price war with tank the markets. What is clear? Is that investors parents. Just about everyone is getting spooked. Look some of it is warranted in. Some of it is not and today. We're GONNA explain why I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction. Let's start at the beginning or at least as close to the beginning as possible. In December of last year a novel or New Virus started circulating in China and over the last three months virus spread to nearly one hundred countries in regions around the world. More than one hundred thousand people have been infected and around. Four thousand have died when you hear. The global fatality rate is around four percent. Now you have a rough idea of where they get those numbers. Let's also define some terms that are increasingly being used by public? Health officials and I will preface by saying sometimes they sound scarier than they are for example. You may have noticed that. Cnn shifted its terminology yesterday and started calling the ongoing corona virus situation. A pandemic truth is many public. Officials have been telling us that it meets the criteria for a pandemic for some time and I will share those criteria with you in a moment but still we thought long and hard about using this word. This is not a decision. We take lightly. We don't WANNA cause panic. We simply want everyone to be prepared. Individuals hospital systems cities and the country. So let me get some of your questions question. One first things first. What is a pandemic honestly? There isn't a universally agreed upon definition which was surprising to me. Many will describe it. Generally speaking as an outbreak that has spread to several countries incontinence. It typically affects a large number of people. Harvard epidemiologist Mark Lipstick. Says it helps to call a a horse a horse. I think it helps clarify that. It's not a series of locally contained outbreaks and when we see more cases it's not because necessarily those cases just appeared. It's finally testing them. I think the reporting to some extent has been that there are a few hundred cases at most the United States and that you know every day the number goes up a little bit when in fact there may be quite a number of more cases. Testing is critical here and with increased testing. We will certainly have increased numbers of those diagnosed with the infection but that is good news and bad news. The bad news is that the numbers will go up. The good news. Is that many of the people who test positive may not be that ill. And that will bring down that fatality ratio. Remember those numbers. We discussed earlier say that instead of four thousand people dying out of one hundred thousand which is a four percent fatality rate. Say instead it was four thousand people dying out of two hundred thousand. That would be two percent fatality rate. You get it. So it's more people test positive. It may bring that fatality ratio down. Also another important thing about a pandemic is that it does not necessarily mean. The symptoms of an illness are more serious or that the disease is more deadly. The three general criteria for a pandemic are a virus that can cause illness or death sustained person to person transmission of that virus and evidence of spread throughout the world. And that's what we're seeing with the novel Corona Virus. Right now question too. So why is CNN calling this pandemic now? Well words matter on Monday morning we made the decision that many epidemiologists and public health experts had already made to call the novel. Chronic virus pandemic essentially. We checked the final box. We already knew the virus was out there and we recently learned there was community spread after carefully evaluating the global picture. It is now clear. There is spread around the world in one day last week. The number of new cases outside of China was nearly nine times higher than the number of new cases in China. This virus has found a foothold on every continent except for Antarctica and in several countries the number of cases continues to climb again just to reiterate calling it. A pandemic doesn't necessarily mean it's more deadly. It's just more widespread so here. Cnn We knew using the word pandemic was a big decision. But we think it was the right one. Dr Anthony FAUCI Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Thinks the focus should be on what we do going. Forward people call that a pandemic is. Cnn would call a pandemic whol quo pin them. It's not GonNa make any difference with what we do. That's the point instead of people getting all bent out of shape about what you call it. It's a serious situation for sure. Question three so how does calling this a pandemic change things in terms of our response when something is considered a pandemic? It means that we've moved beyond this idea that we can simply contain the virus and now all the focus is on slowing the spread as much as possible. So that would be switching gears from containment to mitigation. Us Surgeon General. Dr Jerome Atoms explained this in an appearance on CNN state of the Union. This past Sunday. Initially we had a posture of containment. So that we could give people time to prepare for where we are right now. Now we're shifting into a mitigation faith which means that we're helping communities understand you're going to see more cases unfortunately you're going to see more deaths but that doesn't mean that we should panic but again it does mean that it is time to start preparing some countries around the world are taking drastic measures some of the largest quarantines ever recorded in history have taken place over the last few months. I in China and now in Italy where the entire country is in a state of lockdown could be recommended in the United States schools might be closed and mass gatherings cancelled in your town. It might mean changes at work or how you work as in working from home it might mean putting off a family vacation or catching up over the phone instead of getting together question for do we have the infrastructure to support this pandemic doctor. I think of the medical infrastructure first nurses doctors hospital beds. Icu beds and I am a little worried about that. For example if lots of medical staff get exposed to the virus and need to be quarantined. We could start to quickly have a shortfall at. Cnn's corona virus townhall last week. I asked Ron Clean about this clean. Was the Ebola response coordinator. Under PRESIDENT OBAMA GETTING OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. Ready for this influx of cases is something we should be doing now. We saw China they. They built temporary hospitals. They really flexed up their capacity. And I think this is the point. We all need to think about the possible impact on our healthcare system is something we should be using this time. We'll cases ramp up to really get ready for the US Department of Health and Human Services is estimating that if this becomes even a moderate pandemic at least two hundred thousand people in the United States could need intensive care. Problem is at the moment. Are Hospitals have fewer than one hundred thousand beds in intensive care units and many of them are being used because we are in the middle of flu season and will need more equipment on hand as well like breathing machines again estimates are that we would need around sixty five thousand breathing machines and we have just barely enough with again? Many being currently used this is all a fundamental part of pandemic preparedness. And we need to be working to address these deficiencies and plan ahead question. Five should the elderly be afraid so many listeners have reached out to ask about their parents and their grandparents. And you know what? I've been speaking to my own parents every day down in Florida. Older people are worried understandably. We've been talking about the elderly in general terms as an at risk population. But I WANNA be clear about who that means when the CDC talks about older adults. They're really referring to anyone sixty years or older. Starting at age sixty there is increasing risk of disease and the risk increases with age the highest risk of serious illness and death people older than eighty years. That's Dr Nancy Mess and the Director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and respiratory disease. She was speaking in a teleconference on Monday. People who are at greatest risk are those who are older and you also have serious long term. Health conditions like diabetes heart disease or lung disease. You might not feel old if you're in your sixties but you do need to take precautions. Dr Anthony FAUCI warned. Even younger people need to think about the safety of older adults they interact with eighty percent of people will do well if they don't have any underlying conditions but you may get infected and then come home and infect your grandmother or grandfather who does have an underlying condition so each family unit each individual has the look about not only the risk for themselves but what risks will they putting the people around them in but just because you're older or have an underlying condition that doesn't mean it's fatal or that you'll even get seriously sick. It means you need to be prepared and take precautions. Use Good Judgment. Stay home as much as possible. Avoid crowded areas especially now and for the next several weeks. Stay away from sick people even if it is a granddaughter or grandson who you haven't seen in a while and if you do get sick you need to get tested and you need to seek treatment. The World Health Organization's Director General Pedro Adam gave races offered some optimistic words yesterday. Now that the virus has a foothold in so many countries that threat of abundance has become very real but it would be the first fund music in history that could be controlled. The bottom line is we are not at the mercy of the virus. The bottom line is humanity has overcome pandemics before in this globally connected world. We may be asked to add more social distance between one another but that doesn't mean we still can't collectively come together as a nation and as a world we'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for listening.
"ron clean" Discussed on Slate's The Gist
"An actual vaccine. How batter you this again? All my knowledge on my expertise was gained from watching the same meeting. That trump was sitting in but I was actually listening. Here's politico reporting on that quote. Senior White House official pushed back on the notion that the president was important information arguing. That trump was trying to clarify medical vernacular that might be unclear to the public quote. It's not confusion he's just asking questions. The official said there's just a lot of back and forth when you're talking about vaccines versus treatment now. The difference between months and a year is not medical vernacular. He isn't confused when he consistently makes the same mistake in the same direction. The virus will go away by April vaccines. We'LL TAKE TWO MONTHS VACCINES. We'll take maybe a couple more months. Vaccines will take on the outside. I don't know a year vernacular more like vernacular homicide yesterday afternoon. Trump blamed the lack of testing kits on the Obama administration and to go a little bit further. The Obama Administration made a decision on testing. That turned out to be very detrimental to what we're doing and we under that decision days ago so that testing can take place in a much more accurate and rapid fashion the krona virus and the Obama Administration existed at two different times in world history. There was no corona virus. When there was an Obama Administration. The Chinese government confirmed there had been treating cases in Wuhan province in a press release that went out December thirty first two thousand nine hundred nine. The sickness occurred a few weeks earlier than that in twenty nineteen. The Obama Presidency ended in January of twenty seventeen. The Bat that was eaten by the snake that was sold in. Wuhan that might not have even been alive during the Obama Administration to blame the Obama Administration for a change in rules that prevented testing for a virus. That didn't exist until years after they left office. That's a kind of virus of its own kind and no one can figure out. What testing meant what did was actually talking about which protects the trump administration from the question? Well in your first three years in office. Why didn't you see to this? I mean he did get around to pardoning Nagoya vetch why not addressing the tests that you seem to know about though no one else does finally the only be the last thing. Trump bragged about his polls on the corona virus. Noting that Gallup showed that seventy seven percent believe the government would be up to the challenge. He tweeted quote. Gallup just gave us the highest rating ever for the way we were handling the corona virus situation except the poll was conducted two weeks ago when no Americans had the virus trump went on to say the April two thousand nine hundred thousand ten swine flu. Nearly thirteen thousand people died in the. Us was poorly handled. Ask 'em as DNC and lightweight Washington failure at Ron Clean. Who WAS PRESIDENT? Then the answer. It was this guy who said this to the public at the time. Keep your hands washed. Cover your mouth when you call. Stay home from work if you're sick and keep your children home from school if they're sick and let us now contrast it with this guy the current guy who says this so if you know we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work but they get better. I can think of one job occupant. Who would really do wonders to fight this virus? If he stayed home from work then again. He's got a phone in his bedroom and the TV is playing Fox News. And that's IT FOR TODAY. Show Patel lobby the gist associate producer. Points to an institution that she believes. We have sadly neglected in this country. And that is the adventure park concrete slide. Sure many Thi- has been ruined and torso mangled in such a setting. But IT DOES TEACH CHARACTER DANIEL. Schrader just producer bemoans the loss of an institution within an institution. The large discus sized buzzer. For when there's a weight at the chain restaurant now it's all. Oh what's your cell will buzz. You there was a time when you were thrilled by one of these thick squares lighting. Up as you're browsing the aisles of the hallmark store waiting for a C. To Open up at the outback steakhouse. We'll never get that back. The gist if I could rehabilitate just one institution. It would be this the urinal with ice in it unnecessary possibly unsanitary illogical but it just reeked of class. Yes class is what it wreaked up for a Debra do Peru and thanks for listening..
"ron clean" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"States I had the president. I every single week had a private lunch where we could. We could talk about whether one wanted to from our families to hollered each other. We were like all can decide like brothers. I mean, it was completely open relationship. And so one day I went in with the help of Stafford name, Ron clean. I laid out how I thought we should handle Recovery Act, and I never did it again. He took a great do it. Slid back down the dining room table. But I did the first thing I did. And this is remind you of where we've been and what you can do. I I went to you. I went to the mayors I spoke to over two hundred of you and over that period of time in groups of as many as thirty forty on a phone to one or two alone, and the truth of the matter is that you are the reason why the mayor's the mayors and to some extent, but not as much the governors are the reason why we we came through this care Biden Thursday, I'm telling you that is we're word a situation now where as a couple of my friends out there, and I see the work administration. Now is that? This is a pretty dysfunctional town. State the obvious. That's I know that's a shock to hear somebody say that. But but here here's the deal. The more dysfunctional. This town has become the more consequential. Local officials become not a joke. It's a reality. It's reality all the innovation in America's coming from the governor's the mayor's county executives is coming up. It literally is bubbling up. It's the reason why we haven't seen much in my view. And I know look I get in trouble. I read New York Times a day that I one of my problems is to run for president. I like Republicans came on plus me, father five.
"ron clean" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"I've always learned something when I've come. It's not hyperbole. I've been to probably thirty or more Royal conferences, and I've always walked away. And I'm not trying to be nice to you. Because you know, I've known ever doubts. I mean what I say. The problem is I sometimes say all that. I mean. So. No one's ever accused me of being coy. But I've always walked away impressed and no more so than as vice president being able to work with you. You know, when you may remember some of you that when when the recession hit, I said, this is the most significant economic crisis Americanised assured of depression, and it really was and it turned out to be exactly what we thought it would be and in two thousand and eight some you weren't an office a few of you were a lot of you weren't. But if you if you were, and you may remember that the economy was an absolute free fall families lost over six trillion dollars in personal wealth. There were nearly four million homes that were lost and people who would find that they were in their home. They had never missed a mortgage payment. Everything was going fine. But all of a sudden, they found their upside down because property values have dropped so much because of the three or four closures on your block, and you now your home is worth less than you owed the Bank, and there were foreclosures that way too. And they're all happened in streets. They're all happen. I spent an awful lot of times vice. President president gave me the honor. And it wasn't honor of what we could to revive Detroit in particular, Detroit because it was bankrupt at the time. And and you know, you all want through gone through hell, but we're losing seven hundred thousand jobs a month. Now, my my deceased wife, who is a brilliant woman named Nelia. She had a great expression should the greatest gift God gave mankind was the ability. Forget and my mother would show. That's true. Otherwise, we'll only have one child, but. But but all kidding aside. The good news is and it is good. We've forgotten how bad it was particularly for our cities a long time ago. And so we went out and the automobile industry was bankrupt. And we wrote in past with your leadership, and I'm not being hyperbole. We passed the Recovery Act of two thousand nine and it literally saved us from sliding, depression, even conservative economists knowledge without that that infusion of eight hundred and thirty six billion dollars single largest program in the history of America. Maybe in the world not a joke of infusion of capital saved us from a depression, and it was a single largest investment ever made. And so I made the mistake that sometimes. Your staff may make with you. I I've vice president of states I had the president. I every single week had a private lunch where we could we could talk about whether one or two from our families to hollered each other. We were like all can decide like brothers. I mean, it was completely open relationship. We had. And so one day I went in with the help of Stafford name, Ron clean. I laid out how I thought we should handle Recovery Act, and I never did it again, he took a membership. Great. Do it slid back down the dining room table? But I did the first thing I did. And this is to remind you of where we've been and what you can do. I I went to you. I went to the mayors I spoke to over two hundred of you and over that period of time in groups of as many as thirty forty on a phone to one or two alone. And the truth of the matter is that you are the reason why. The mirrors the mayors and to some extent, but not as much to governors are the reason why we we came through all this. The reason I'm telling you that is that we're at a situation now where as a couple of my friends out there, and I see that worked administration. Now is that? This is a pretty dysfunctional town. To state the obvious. That's I know that's shocked to hear somebody say that. But but here's the deal. The more dysfunctional. This town has become the more consequential. Local officials become not a joke. It's reality. It's reality all the innovation in America's coming from the governor's the mayor's county executives is coming up. It literally is bubbling up. It's the reason why we haven't seen much in my view. And I know look I get in trouble. I read in New York Times today that one of my problems is if to run for president I like Republicans. Okay, mom, bless me. Father five.
"ron clean" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"So you gotta wait till your eighty before you can lead a committee. Yeah. And do you think that should change? That's a it is a real problem, and my sense of Mansi. I I had it on my podcast. And I asked her her father was as you know, air Baltimore brethren? Farewell for she grew up in the war politics Baltimore. Everything's versus. San franciscan. She's a a tough. Can he that's an reward politics Baltimore? And so what you learn growing up with that house. So she didn't skip a beach. You said I learned how to count right? You know, exactly where she is. Like, guess is that she also understands that she's going to have to make some changes if she has a chance to stay. Yeah. Because you have a couple of probably close to two dozen voters were simply absolutely won't vote for her and that means on the floor as well. And so, you know, she can't get elected speaker that way. And so that's a naughty problem because these members are not gonna want their first act to be defying the pledge to their constituents and right soups who else is there. Well, she will have her own candidate of I I'm sure if the one thing I know about her is that she's certainly not going to seat the speakership. To the people who are trying to get rid of her. That would be completely unlike her, and I just. One could Stewart. So I don't know. I mean, there was talk for example, that if she could be speaker that she might support Adam Schiff for that job. But I mean, that's speculation. And Adam Schiff has another important job. It was a good segue to my next question. You know guy like me who basically used to issue subpoenas for living and investigate people for living. So maybe I'm overly intent on investigations in uncovering fraud waste and abuse in other transgressions, but I'm not in the house, and I don't have a committee chairmanship. So there's this question about investigations, and I saw Mitch McConnell already this morning. Pre prepared talking point warn the Democrats against what he called, quote, unquote, presidential harassment, which is an ironic is for a lot of reasons that we don't need to go into. But then I saw, you know, another very smart person who you, and I both know Ron clean, so Ron clean says in his in his piece in the Washington Post among other things that for the first hundred days. No subpoena should be issue. Oh, hearing should happen and kitchen table bread and butter issues, or what Democrats should focus on. And there's plenty of time later, and there's something to be said for that. What do you what do you think should happen? I think there's a lot of wisdom in what rod Senate has asked that this last night on the air. And my reflexive reaction was it's bad to lose the house and causing. There is a instinct on the part of the house to play the oversight role. They're supposed to play. I don't know. I think leading with a positive agenda for the constituents will appeal to the new members and to the public, and and it's the right thing to do, you know, all this stuff about we're going to get the president's tax return, and all that stuff that doesn't interest me very much. I do worry about some of the things that are going on for example in agencies like the APA and the relationship between industry and the decision because. That affects people's lives. What I'm saying is I would be prudent. I would be deliberate. I would make kitchen table issues as Ron suggest center. But I wouldn't be dogmatic about it. Let me and by asking a couple of things one is, you know, politics is sort of Israel. And even though as we said earlier in the conversation that you maybe we put politicians too, high a pedestal, but the reverse is also sometimes true, we demonize folks net, just natural. But is there anyone in particular who lost yesterday that especially pleased? You. When we go..
"ron clean" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"Hinting TOTO over to the wicked witch and saying, I'm sure this will all be fine. I mean, Republicans voted sixty times to get rid of production for six pre existing conditions. They went to court to get rid of it. President Trump campaign on getting rid of it. And then he threw a beer bash in the rose garden to celebrate Republicans passing Bill to get rid of it. They tried to strong arm, John McCain, one of his last votes in the Senate to get rid of it. And if all that wasn't enough, just the other day, Mitch McConnell promised that the Democrats don't take back the house and the Senate. He will try again to get rid of it. So that's absolutely what's going to happen. And the only way to protect coverage for preexisting conditions as for voters, to elect a democratic house and a Democratic Senate. Otherwise this will go away Jared version can can the Republicans just get away with this lie? Is the subject complicated enough that the voters just can't follow this? Well, not if they listen to the very, very clear logic that both you and Ron clean just laid out. In fact, even through Todd. Oh, into the mix, practically broke my heart there for a second. Of course, people who are paying any attention to the reality of the situation as the two of you just articulated have to know that these lies are so pervasive, but there is a wrinkle that I want people to know about. Some of the Republican plans argue that insurers must cover everyone all comers. They can't deny coverage, and some of these plans actually do have that. However, they then say those insurers can charge people with preexisting conditions, whatever they want in terms of premiums, and they don't have to even cover illnesses related to the pre existing condition. So if you have heart disease and you get coverage, they can charge you hundreds of thousands of dollars for your.
"ron clean" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"I'll just go right to the energy that I see on the ground. I was just an Alabama last week. We're competing in the deep south and we filled a Presbyterian church at two o'clock on a Monday with four hundred people for a town hall with one of our candidates Peter, Joe freon there. And so I see the energy, the backdrops and the different parts of the country are different. But the energy of the base is the same. But I also look at the caliber of the candidates. Most of our candidates eighteen months ago did not imagine themselves is running for congress, but they felt this call to service because of this president. And tomorrow we are rolling out and I'll tell you, I hear tonight on the last word future forty. It's forty candidates in their forties or under who are running in the most competitive seats across the country. And they look talk like an act like the best of their generation, their veterans, small business owners, community activists, and they, I think, are going to be refreshing, refreshing faces for the future. Of the party and what's ahead and then this next congress, Ron clean. I know you were working in the Senate in one thousand nine hundred four when that wave hit that none of us coming and we can all remember exactly where we were on election day when we realized that not only were the Democrats losing the Senate. They were losing the house of representatives. And for me, the important lesson of that always was that there was no warning that no one saw it coming, and that can happen in congressional elections. There are waves. There are things that can develop that no one sees coming. But then when you actually do see something coming the the, there's a, there's a powerful message that should be pushing the parties towards some kind of reality. But the Republicans seem lost their strategists saying, we're shipwrecked. Yeah, look, Republicans made a decision here and we can't blame this all on Donald Trump. Republican congressional leaders made a decision. I think Democrats are going to do well, not just in the district's Hillary Clinton carried in two thousand sixteen, but in district's Trump carried because. 'cause I think some of those voters voted for Trump in two thousand sixteen and said, but I'm counting on Republicans to put a check on this counting on house and Senate Republicans to be the adults counting on them to do things like stop Trump from doing horrible things like separating families or taking away pre existing conditions are turning the government do his own private, piggy Bank, and the Republicans instead of signed up to be the Dallas cowboy cheerleaders of the Trump administration. And you know, and as a result, I think voters are saying, look, if they're not gonna, put a check on Trump, we need someone who will. And I think that's why congressmens well, we'll be wielding a gavel in the next session of the congress. Jennifer, Rubin, we saw a president elect Trump do something that we've never seen a president of the elect do before, and that is not think for one second about how to convert people who did not vote for him. And with most presidents elect the day after election day, they start talking to the possible swing voters who did not vote for them. They start trying to add. To their support base and Donald Trump has never spent one day or directed one sentence toward the people who did not who who did not vote for him last time around. That's exactly right. He's a narcissist and he's a guy who is in the moment. In other words, who's ever in front of him, whatever crazy crowd he can throw together that is his only concern he is phobic about criticism. He's phobic about people who have doubts about him, and therefore he goes back again and again, and again, getting crazier and crazier and crazier with that narrow base and you see it in the polls group after group is flipping from Republican to democrat, we've seen it overwhelmingly with women. We've seen it with college educated voters. We're seeing it now even with white college educated voters, which is usually a Republican group. So slowly he is slicing down his own electoral base to a. Thin, thin strip, and you cannot govern in. You cannot hold out that way. And I think Ron's point part of the problem here is that Republicans have been saying, okay, well, we'll wait on the economy, the comedy at work. Now we'll scare them into thinking that impeachment will becoming..
"ron clean" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Us government everything he had signed every valid he taken and that he probably did us a fair bit of good okay and he did us good because not because he revealed great nsa privacy invasions the united states i actually don't think he told us a whole lot in that area that we didn't already know from your reporting from jim bryson's reporting from eric lichtblau reporting i think we confirm the meta data collection it was a big deal it was a big deal but we knew that the meta data program you know was out there the times had reported that and and others had as well the big revelations which to my mind didn't get anywhere near as much ink had to do with what the nsa and g h q the british promos doing against their own systems right against against foreigners who we were breaking into so let me give you a big example from the book so the for years we have warned americans about using products made by wall way the big chinese maker of telephones and servers right so you learn from the snowden documents and i describe it at some length in the book that the nsa broke into wild way did everything inside while way that they have long warned that the us would that would the chinese will do to the us to try to understand how always systems worked so they could tap into them when while way sold them to countries we didn't care for that's an example of a case where we have to sort of decide whether we want people to do what we say or we want people to do we do well david i want to thank you for coming in there's so much in this book to unpack we could probably talk for another hour so i'll come back from time having a slow week winning four week all right the book is the perfect weapon war sabotage and fear in the cyber age by david sanger thanks david thank you thanks to ron clean and david sanger for joining us on this week's episode don't forget to subscribe to skulduggery on apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts and tell us what you think leave a review skullduggery is also on sirius xm subscribers can catch the latest episode on post channel one twenty four every saturday at eleven am eastern time with replays on sundays at twelve am and three pm eastern time we'll talk to you next week
"ron clean" Discussed on The Axe Files with David Axelrod
"Priority for al gore via sleep the tax cuts and so on so it was a very anybody who doesn't think elections are meaningful should look at that one which was determined by what five hundred twenty eight votes at the end of the day in in florida kevin spacey played ron clean in that movie as you mentioned before i was struck when i saw the film how much he had kind of incorporate runs idiosyncrasies ron has a tendency to stare at the table during meetings rather than looking at the person who's speaking and so on and spacey god all that and it was incredibly impressive that's always impresses me about actors about how they can so fully inhabit the people they are yeah you know he retrieves studied ron he knew he didn't great mimic you don't look very much like right you know ron ron sel has a few more lb's and and a whole different hairline so he he decided to compensate for that by getting to know him we as we do on all these films if there's anybody around who was actually around during the actual star we try to get with them and have the actors get with them and he he got to know ron and he kevin to very confident charismatic person and something he and i talked a lot about it i just said i i've talked a lot with ron he doesn't come at it that way he's he's he's a very thoughtful person so i need you to shrink you know and then grow through the course of the film which is the arc that that ron's character goes and kevin embrace that do you i can't pass this without talking about kevin survey see and what's happened to him or with him and this explosion that has rocked hollywood rocked washington all the centers of power and i imagine will end up touching.