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Survivor: Edge of Extinction | RHAP Cast Preview with Rob & Nicole

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Survivor: Edge of Extinction | RHAP Cast Preview with Rob & Nicole

"The. Comedy. From my apartment. It's rob has a podcast in. Here's the guy who's going to be on the edge of his podcast chair for the next four months. Rob sister, Neo everybody. Welcome back to our survivor. Thirty eight Freeview podcast here on the edge of extinction. And here I am once again to preview a season of survivor for what I believe is the eighteenth time here is the first lady of Roba's podcast. Nicole sister, Nina, car, were you? No, you totally messed up my entrance. I'm not the first lady of rob has a podcast. I'm first lady of podcasting. Yeah. Really? Now, you can't change just feel like that. There's a lot of women in podcasting that work of, you know, a lot more hours podcasting than you do I feel like it's a slight to thought the quantity is the quality. Yeah. You're definitely the first lady of rob as a pipe. I'm the flop we'll say the flop still, but I just don't I don't want to really get into a rivalry with women podcasters that are out there. Send my way that you are the top female podcast in the game. You have in the game for a long time. Yeah. You don't look it though. Thank you. Okay. Here. We are back again for season thirty eight and we've got a lot of stuff to talk about here with we have returning players. We have new players. We have a new twist nickel. We do. Yes. We do use as news to you. Yeah. Breaking news breaking news. So we have a lot to do here in this preview edition. I know that it's not a long preseason. The preseason is less than three weeks long. There's been times where it's like five weeks long. So we're a little bit under the gun with trying to get to everything. There's a lot of stuff out there. A lot of people were out there covering all of this in preseason out in Fiji. We're going to talk. Through this in a specific order. We're gonna talk about the new players from the comet tribe. I then we're gonna talk about the new players from the monotype. And then we're going to save our returning players for last because we've done so much talking about the returning players between all of the stuff that idea with the story so far podcast that Nicole has been raving about how much she enjoyed all of those. And then I did the podcast with the best moments from the returning players. So we've talked to death already about the returning players will save them for the end today. I really want to spend some time talking about our new players have barely gotten to talk about at all in the call. But before we get to that. How are you? I'm good. Yes. What's new? I feel like the last time you were on a podcast. What do we do when you interviewed me or when we talked to in your means me when? How was in? What way was I'm an answering the questions that the people wanted to know what what what was the question that somebody wanted to know remember, you know, soon as I'm done, I'm done. Yes. That nicole. I apologize. If that that would that came across in any way as being mean to you. It's just I was trying to answer the questions to the best of my ability, very political. I don't even remember what if somebody writes in with the question, they they need to know the answer to I'm happy to do it. We answer a million questions every week. Between the patron five for five or the patron Facebook Friday or the monthly patron cath that we do. So any question from me that people are waiting answer. Please please let me know. I'm a little hung over. I think today. Why let's let's explore this his we went to mom's gone wild last night. Moms gone wild that the call was out with her mom friends last night. I was busy podcasting away with this celebrity big brother season. And then the coal was out with our mom's friend, celebrating what my new job new job. And all the mom friends were were together and the mom friends try to act like they are still with it. You know, they can hang a lot better than I had like they were downstairs we all met here. And they were downstairs drinking wine from a can straight out of the can like it was a beer one almost cracked it on her head. That's how hardcore they are. Yes. And you cannot keep up with cannot keep up. Okay. I'm too tired. I had two drinks done. I did we did her ask the driver though. What do you mean? Harass the Uber driver. Why do I these stories don't come up that where we're in this house the whole day you've nothing to say, and then I turn the microphone on. And now, it's like you have all these confessions has I'm an entertainer, Jeff. So how did you? Did you harass an Uber driver? Just driving them crazy because we had to make four stops. And we all live in like, I don't know within ten houses of each other. Okay. And he basically wanted to just like open the door and throw us all out. Yes. Okay. Well, what were you doing? I was I was trying to interview him. Yeah. Having it right. Goo shouldn't you let him concentrate on driving probably, but it was more fun to interview them. And then eventually the Uber driver got mad, and then kicked you all out. And then you go to bed. Uber rating I pay for it. So it was my rating. You were just getting a free ride. Okay. All right. Well, the call I hope you had a lot of fun last night. I hope we have a lot of fun tonight. Talking through everybody here from the edge of extinction. We've got extensive coverage up already. Of course, Josh wig layer with the amazing job that he did with everything with first one out in the post production, thereby Taryn Armstrong, if you haven't listened to I one out highly recommended, of course, that you can get all of that in our podcast feed Robbins website, accomplish itunes or Robbins, websit accomplish survivor podcast, which is all things survivor on his podcast and the Rahat ups. If you rob as webs at com slash fhu. You Tube F O YouTube. You can get the video version of I one out that we did that for the first time where you can see the pictures of the people that are talking on our YouTube channel they'll help as well. So there's a lot of stuff that's out there for you to go ahead and check out and everything survivor thirty eight go to rob his website com slash s thirty eight four all of that. Okay. Nicole the premiere of survivor edge of extinction is going to be on February. Twentieth. That is one week from Wednesday night one hour one hour one hour only one hours. So sometimes we get a one hour and a half two hours. But we are going to see a one one hour, and I want to say maybe for the first time since survivor, h h h heroes, healers hustle one hour premiere. So quite a memory. You have look I doesn't mean. I'm right. That's I think and of course, we have our big twist which has been talked about widely of the edge of extinction where survivors this season when they get voted out of the game. They will have a choice. They could just go home or. They could go to an island where there will be nothing for them. And that some point they will have a chance to get back into this game to call at least suck it would suck to be the first person on the island because then you have nothing, and you gotta start it. Then they like, oh, it's like a party like, you know, you get there and people have it all figured out. I would hide. What would you do hide? There is nothing to hide. Well, if I if I caught food I would share it. Oh, yeah. Like what what would you catch? I don't know. I used to fish. Yeah. I mean what you're gonna fish with. I don't even know if there's like like, a Hawaiian slang or anything out there. My bare hands catch a fish with your bare hands and hide it. Well, I guess I'd have to cook it right away because otherwise it stink. Right. You would think so I would really suck on this island because my plan is already stupid even go there. You know, what I'd probably be like, you know, what I'm talking to last thirty nine days over there. I'm going to go on the free trim. I gotta be honest. I think that I would probably go there and check it out. And then when I see this like. Like a full. They're like, what am I am? I gonna win my way back into this. I wanna go to us strategy. What is the game going to be that? I'm gonna win to get back into the game that I'm going to beat nine people to get back into the game. Right. And then you can just go and have a huge meal and enjoy yourself. Yeah. I guess so, but I mean if this to film and say, well, I guess airtime airtime here. So we'll see how it goes here with the edge of extinction. Okay. One other note, just because one I gotta get out there. Schedule wise, so because of the format of the edge of extinction. And I don't know if everybody knows this yet, we will not have our traditional survivor exit press here in survivor thirty eight and I know that's a bummer for a lot of us. But unfortunately, that's what the deal is. Because we do not know if we're going to have somebody who is out of the game every single week. And so what if someone actually does leave the game, we will not get an interview with them? Okay. Okay. So hopefully when we get to the end of the season, and we have the winner and the final whatever then we will have the opportunity to speak with them. But CBS will not. Be doing exit press with the survivor edge of extinction contestants Nicole. I'm are for all of the twitch stands out there this weekend so ever history. We're gonna try to figure out some other point in the schedule to still have our twi- sh with Kayla later on during the during the course of the season. So hanging there for all, right, Nicole. Let's talk about the first batch of new players that we're going to discuss here. And I think we should go through them in the order that Josh spoke with them here in first one out. So we're going to pick this up if you are listening to the podcast or watching the YouTube video of I one out chapter to here with the comet drive and so up. I wanna talk about Julie Rosenberg that's going to be our first person. We're going to discuss here in our season. Thirty eight plea. You open up the picture. So Nicole knows who were talking about at very confused. She's a forty six year old New York City toymaker. She makes wooden toys. Wouldn't toys a really the worst toys, right? Splinter well, the Santa down. So you don't get sponsored professional. She's a professionals come via. What kind of toys a wooden toy like a rocking chair? Well, she is a shop owner, I tell you what would be the worst Christmas. If you were a kid. What toys made out of wood unless you got coal, which is what you're gonna get next year. Marionette marionettes out of wood. I guess the old versions. Yeah. So okay. We're we're joking around. What like what is it like, she's like those like puzzle like puzzles, and there there are some big brands that only do wouldn't toys, and we have a few of them. Yes. Give me an example. What's what's good wooden toy? They have these cars that are wooden, and they just have regular wheels on them that they play and they have little signs that had like the stop sign. Yeah. Other than than they threw it in the pool and got wet. And then then I got a splinter. So don't do that. Okay. All right. I like what plastic toys metal toys toys with a screen you like, apple toys toys. Yeah. So I'm not sure if this is I'm looking on at sea. And I'm looking at the toys that look signing looks like like, some bowling pins. Okay. Got little life that would not go well in our house 'cause they would use the bowling pins as didn't toy car. Yeah. Okay. So it's not carve them herself. I don't know. I think that founded like business with Wendell like the furniture and toy business merged together. It sounded like she was talking to Josh about how there's she has people that work on this other stuff. So personally. For me. You know, wouldn't wouldn't toys it or not not my thing? But I'm sure that for their their children that that love them children, just love toys. Yes. Okay. So Julie Rosenberg she has been applying for the show for seventeen years. Yes. She's superfan. She's a superfan has been a straight shot here. She is why did they say now what what changed the toy? Shop the Tor toy shop, the toys the toys were hot. They've never had an elf before. Yeah. Nicole one of the things about Julie. She is very excited about that. She can make fire and with all the time working with the would you would hope she'd be able to make the fire, but this is a theme with these contestants. Boy, they are. They are they can't wait to tell you how much they know how to make fire. You know, what when everybody knows how to make fire. It's not fun anymore. Forget not fun. It's like what's the big deal? Yeah. You could make fire you can make fire. You can make fire is it really that hard to make fire with window because I've never made one. When I went in my day. It's not back in my day story. But they said that once upon a time when I played survivor back in my day. They said, okay, you better make sure you know, how to make fire and St. look the tribes has rob. We need you to make the fire. We're dead. Anyway, we're we're all going to die. If it's down to me. Now you've to make fire at the final four and everybody should be so lucky there in the game at the final four. Yeah. It's it's not going to happen. For many of you. Most of you guys are going to be on edge of extinction islands, and they're going to need to make fire there. So I guess so Flint good thing there with seventeen other people that know how to make the five no idea. I don't know anything about education, very under locking key. Okay. So Julie, she is a mom. She has kids, Nicole. What to tell us about Julie to be honest. I couldn't navigate the CBS website that well. See this. Yes. Okay. And getting old where I'm just like, I don't know where to find anything here. I don't know. I mean, again, this is the eighteenth time that we've done this exact is the website. It feels like they did. Well, whatever you have. What wouldn't you? Learn about Julie that she learned how to make fire, she's neurotic. I think we're gonna have a lot of neurotics that know how to make fire which is probably not very safe. Not as safe. What survivor contestant are you most like she is a combo of Stephanie for her to neces- Sirri for humor and fun spirit and dawn for her propensity to have some emotional moments. Boy. Yeah. Okay. Show me here teeth the. Of. That was more Brenda. Sean, Don took her teeth out Brenes on dealer. No deal. I haven't watched it yet. She yes, she's one of the suitcase, ladies, I didn't know that that show was even backed back back. I don't know if there's a lot of buzz Meghan Markle used to be one of the dealer. No deal. Yeah. And I think it's on CNBC. Don't think it's even really on like a one of the main networks does how he still. Yes. He does he have to. Yeah. Okay. All right. So what are her pet peeves? Tell me about it. Okay. Her pet peeves are hoarders people who invade my personal space and anything that's floral scented. That's interesting. Doesn't like anything. That's floral scent it that's most perfume. Yeah. And that's a problem. Luckily, no one's going to be wearing perfume on the island. And they're really just going to smell like dirt. You know, what I don't like anything. That's floral scent it either. I'm with I stand with Juliane this perfumes. I wouldn't say that perfect flowers I walk into a room, and then you've got some like air freshener plugged in. And I'm like, what is that noxious sent in this room? Meaning air freshener. To make it higher because it's not calming. You thought calming me? Yeah. I don't have a great sense of how Julie is going to do she calls herself neurotic. But otherwise, she seems like a very neat lady. So what do you think I didn't get anything? Good or bad. I kind of just like in the in the middle, which is which is good, right? Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. All right. Nicole Julie on the jury jury Julie. She's a jury. Julia. Thanks jury. Okay, emerge. Does she make the merge? The you got into this whole thing last time of I think the make the merge, but not be on the jury that that that rarely happens and you really planted your flag on this. The last time we did this. It was moron. Ick. And you're bringing it back here in bad. But is usually what we say. Do they make the merge? All right. You wanna say they make the merge? Because it confused because it's been it's it typically is the same thing. Okay. But what do we call it? I said jury Julie because it was a J do what would you prefer to say merge? I mean, don't get me this exhausted on on person. Number one murder rate jury. Julie, okay. She makes the jury or jury Julie, okay. Nicole my other question that I want to ask tonight if she's on the edge of extinction islands. Do you see her doing well, can she can she hang on edge of extinction island? She knows how to make fire. So there's a plus. Yes. She might enjoy the quiet. She has kids. So it'll it'll be a vacation regardless. I think that if anybody can handle it. It's it might be her. Okay. And then she can make toys out of wood for people to play with might be could've made gainers his in idles. Okay. Thanks. She'll do. Okay. They're on edge of extinction island. Okay. Let's talk about a nother parent of two. Let's talk about our firefighter here. And he is Eric Eric Haith, man. Okay. Nicole have you seen this person before in real life? No just in your research for this research. Yes. Yes. Alright. Specific as thirty four that he's from Chicago and he lives in northern California. He is a fire fighter his pet. Peeve is people who take themselves too seriously. He says come on relax people. You're going to have an interesting survivor time. I try to remember that ninety nine. Point nine percents. I am not the smartest coolest most interesting deserving or important person in the room. I like that point one percent of the time. He is. Oh, that's not a good outlook. So I guess one time out of a thousand. So. The sucks for everybody else in the room that day he needs some mantras to speak in the mirror to if you to humble. I got a really good feeling when I was reading his whatever I did read. And then when I watched the video of him in Orissa, I was like, I'm kind of bored. Yeah. Okay. Look, it's talk about survivor contestant that he is the most like he says, Tony. But I don't think you're not you're not. I don't think we're very similar people. But I think we agree fundamentally and how you play the game. Tony was a grinder from start to finish. He understands that every piece of the game every moment every situation has value and can be used to influence the outcome. I think most of the players only the most obvious parts of survivors piece on the board when in reality every detail immovable piece. Okay. I think he understands the game. Really well, and he understands what he needs to do. But. I might fall asleep watching it. Yeah. He feel. He's new Brendan Shapiro. Yeah. He's here. Yeah. He's the he's the dad, although the ladies on the YouTube comments really needed to get squirted with that firehose host for the ladies on YouTube thirsty. Ladies. Very very thirsty or Haith man for the fan, then he pronounce I don't know. I just thought it was Haith man or hatha, man. It's half a man. I see a lot of. Hey, man. I just thought it was funny to say. Yeah. So here's Eric and he. The tribe. Also, add that this is the tribe with with Aubrey and with Joe, so I think we need to look at these people through the prism of are they going to get along with Aubrey in. Joe, I think this guy could definitely broke down with Joe, I think he can bro down with Aubrey down with Aubrey. Okay. I believe he says he can meditate in his interview. So he can do some job with Joe on that. Yeah. That'll be really fun. Yeah. So you think that Eric is a snooze earlier. I think he might be a snooze her. He, but I think he understands the game and he'll probably do. Well. But it won't be the most entertaining. Okay. All right. Nicole that do you think that Eric will be around at the jury. Yes. Okay. It'll be there or did you saying the jury of the merge your confusing? And then what about Eric? Will. He be do. Okay. On edge of extinction island. Yeah. I think so. Okay. All right. Oh, he has. He he said he was watching a YouTube video to yes, he got bored. Yes. I can relate to that. Listen, his hobbies are backpacking basketball woodworking and pretty much anything outside. What are the chances? We have so many would were here early. So maybe we have a mom and dad alliance going on here. Yeah. And Orissa asked him what makes him so special in in a game of survivor, and he said, nothing nothing. Hey agreed. That's not one of the ladies in the YouTube comments were saying, no, it was not. Okay. All right here is Rick. Okay. All right. But let's go down. He's going to be playing with Kelvin's gut playing with Callans gut because he just kept saying that he's just going to trust is gut. And we see how that went. Okay. Were you shave Kellen shading Callan Cal Khelil say the same thing? Yeah. Look kellyn define counted fi. But she will. She will joke and say, yeah, my gut kind of sucks seventh place. I think you take that take that. I'll take it. All right, Nicole. Let's talk about our third person here in this comma tribe, and that is Mr. Ron Clark. Did you know anything about Ron Clark of before this? I didn't is there something I should know. Well, what I guess I should have. I. Nast the wrong question. What do what do you know of Ron Clark? I know that he's a teacher. He's from Atlanta. I'm a little confused on one thing about him. He said to describe himself. He's a visionary. He's compassionate. And he's a mean girl. All right. Well, let me in mean girls. No, a celebrity big, brother. So Nicole Ron Clark that he has a very interesting backstory is a teacher, and that he ended up a publishing a book which ended up getting a lot of national attention that he has been burned book. No, it's not get the me girls. You don't understand? Let's don't don't bring me and girls into this right now. So he has a Ron Clark essential fifty five which is a list of rules for teachers, and he has gone on. He has a Ron Clark academy for teachers where teachers go to learn from him about the how to be a better teacher. And there was even a movie made about Ron Clark, featuring Matthew Perry from friends sorry clerk, Ron Clark. Yeah. Those the name of the movie, I believe it was the run Clark chronicles story. No. I don't over the Matthew Perry Ron Clark and the name of the movie was the Ron Clark story. Could it be any more on the? Does. Yes. The Ron Clark story with Matthew berry. Nicole? What does the Ron Clark story? What is what is the audience rating for the Ron Clark story on rotten tomatoes play with fire right now? I bet it's probably better than the emoji. That's. Not what I asked. It has a very balmy very fresh eighty five percent audience review even higher than a Ron Clark fifty five rules. Yeah. When did it come out two thousand six I'm leave? So I mean, yeah, Matthew Perry had all that friends heat right around. Then you want to hear some of Ron Clark's. Essential fifty five rules for teachers. Yes. Okay. See how many of these rules? You follow by? I'm not a teacher. Okay. All right, fine. You're not a teacher. But how many of these rules? Do you follow? Okay. Congratulate the winner or someone or when someone else does something. Well, do you do that? Sometimes okay. Let's see if I like them rule number nine always say, thank you when given something. I always had good manners. You definitely. Well, let me not to you. Okay. Well, it it doesn't say say thank you to everybody except your husband. Well, it's it's between the lines report we mine. It's implied. Okay. Then keep yourself and the bathroom's clean and germ free. Yes. How many times you clean your bathroom? My bathroom is fine. But I don't have any of those kids up here. I have to clean that bathroom twice a day. Because those boys of yours don't know how to aim. It's a struggle. The struggle is real let's see how about on a field trip complement the place that you are visiting Nicole. Would you do that? No. But I'll start when I whenever I going to field trips and rule number three or four when offered food take only your fair share. See I feel like I usually don't like the things that are offered. So most of the time I take less than my fair share. So when there is something offered that I do like, I then. Do math. And then I take what I so this is a long way. Okay. Rule forty three on escalator stand to the right walk to the left. Yes. Was this a big problem? I think anytime you're walking and like you see somebody like coming towards you. You stay on the right? And then there's not that like awkward dance. Like you. Stay stay in your lane. Rule fifty be positive enjoy life. Yes. You're so positive. Okay. All right. So that's Ron Clark. And so will. Yes, you waits until people get off the elevator before you get on. Don't. I didn't want to open Pandora's box of your elevator would agree with this. But okay, let's bring it back to Ron Clark that he is forty six. He's from North Carolina. He teaches at the Ron Clark academy. What it's the Ron Clark academy. Yes, he is his own school. Where were you when we just talked about that he has his own movie? I didn't know that that the school is his to Ron Clark academy highly acclaimed nonprofit middle school located in south east, Atlanta, the academy's rec-, both national and international recognition for its success in educating students with academic, rigor, passion and creativity balanced by strict code of discipline. Okay. The academy seeks to extend its reach beyond its student body and having impact upon students everywhere. And also that the Iran Clark kademi has educator training as well, so educators, come to learn from Ron Clark. Okay. He was talking about how he will. He's very scared about being portrayed as the villain because people come to his school to learn see he didn't even clarify when he was saying like they didn't say he's like they come to my school that has my name in it. Yes. He did say with Josh that they call it the wrong Clark academy because of the movie was out at the time of the Ron Clark story. So that there was a lot of name recognition here with Ron Clark. Okay. Nicole? So with Ron Clark, we have an interesting story because I kinda thought that when I. I didn't know a lot about Ron Clark before all of this. And then I felt like okay, he's going to become in and be sort of like the good guy hero teacher. But it does seem as though what she wants to play like in a very devious manner. Well, he probably plays the good guy. All the time. And now he wants he wants them fun. He wants to go have fun. Yeah. He doesn't know how to make fire. Yeah. Why doesn't he make fire not enough time to learn how to do it? He tried. But he couldn't do it. Only knew a good teacher. I think too many people are obsessing about the fires seriously. Look, if if you get the fourth place, I lost. I couldn't make the fire. Okay. Big deal like a badge of honor. Now. Right. Got pretty far. Yeah. I mean. There's a lot of things to think about going to spend all like working all day on making making the fire like Josh wig. Learn how to make the fire ghost island. You can't do it. Josh can't do it. He couldn't do it when he got ghost island. And it's different when you get out there who the who knows. Yeah. Yeah. All right, but Ron Clark. He's an interesting guy. He pet peeves his pet peeves are he's he's a sore loser. He's gets really sore heel Stu monopoly weeks me too. Are you really cheat him enough? Hopefully, Ron Clark doesn't cheat at monopoly. Like you do. I don't cheat steal the money from the Bank. Yeah. It's not cheating. Also, I hate when people slurp food lowered smack chew gum. He's a people. We can hear you. Yeah. Robert and his three words that describe in more, visionary, compassionate and mean, girl. Okay. So that's that's Clark the teacher that's teaching middle schoolers and teaching people to teach better mean girl. Probably isn't a good quality Jack that was like literally the story of a school where students misbehaving so look must be a typo. Ron Clark was also on the price is right. I watched his clip on YouTube. He wasn't crazy. But he went out the contestants row. Played one of the worst. Most like. Worst known games in the history of the price is right. Which is I was like a boy Ingo or something like that. And and Bob Aston like run. Have you seen this runs? I haven't. Like, maybe the first time out only time out for this game. And then he did win the showcase so. Back in two thousand and two good on him have gone on the prices right during the Bob Barker day, would not not be the same to go with all the respect. The drew Carey. Yes. I was a good wife, and I took him took rob to the. In vegas. Yes. The the prices right show that they tell was it Harris. It was something something like that. Yes. Thank you for sharing that anecdote. I was it was you liked it. I was a good wife. Yeah. It was pointing contestants row then that was in Atlantic City. That wasn't wasn't. Vegas. Oh, yeah. And then you bid on you bid on the thing that we had and the price right on our wedding right praise. Yeah. We did. We went to one in Atlantic City to but you didn't get called. No, no, yeah. Okay. Runs a lot better the price. Right. Then Nicole is sadly, okay, Nicole, tell me about Ron Clark who can you? See him bonding with here. I feel like Aubrey would like him to like. Yeah. He's an interesting guy. She will. I'm sure she will enjoy his stories every like collects personalities. Yeah. That's what she does. Yeah. And she's gonna I think she'll like Ron I think he I think he can bond with Joe. Yeah. But I like Ron I like Ron to. So do you think that Ron will make the jury now you've already put two people on the jury, Nicole, mathematically, some people are not gonna make the jury and I'm really good at math. Perfect. I don't see why. He wouldn't. Okay. All right. So how will he do at the edge of extinction island? Well, he can't make fire. Okay. But you would think that somebody there could make the first person there. Okay. So he's the first person. He goes there hill die. Sorry. Okay. Story. All right now, the Ron Clark movie ended otherwise spoiler alert. How do you think? He'll do. I think he'll do fine over there. I mean, I don't really know what it's going to be like they don't have anything else. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't think he'll like it there. He's the mean girl, he says he is. I don't think he's a quitter. Yeah. He's been waiting for this. He's been waiting. But I don't think alike it over extinction. Like it. I think. Yeah. I think he's gonna like it Joe might like volunteer to go. All right. The call anything else on Ron Clark. No. I learned so much. We all did it. Okay. Let's see. Why does Ron Clark think he'll win survivors is my passion for life rubs off on people with focus. I can change people's moods and get them to follow my lead. I'll use my southern charm to disarm this really to entertain. And my loyal nature is oriented see the could be annoying. I don't think that you would get along with Ron Ron has like fifty five. Rules. I fifty five rules to shoot. What are they? They're not as positive the positive. But I think that he says you have to stick to these rules. Yeah. I don't think that you like liberals, I wouldn't like that. What to do? Right. You would not even not like that. Yeah. So I don't know that you like why does he get tell me what to do the follow? His God enough doesn't he follow? My list of rules, Mr. positively. Okay. All right, Nicole. Let's go ahead and talk about our forth new person over here. And that would be Victoria, our first survivor, Victoria, the big brother, Victoria went. So well, so we're excited about Victoria, Victoria bay Monday. She reminds me on the red headed chick in true blood. Okay. There you go. Yeah. All right. Why because she has red hair. Skin tone. Yeah. Okay. The call tell me about Victoria are Twenty-three-year-old Victoria from the Bronx. Well, when I first read her stuff, I was like. Not impressed. But then. I saw her talking with the risk. And I was actually it was like a she's pretty smart. She is another longtime survivor fan make people say that at this point. But it seems like almost everybody here talked about how much they followed the show for almost their whole lives. So there's very few people like I just got into the show last season. So they they talk game. She's got some interesting stories she talks about how she got a buff. As a as a young child war to school. Not sure if that's on Ron's list of rules of things you're allowed to do howling on. But she also has an anecdote about how she actually matched up with Cochran on. I forget which dating app, Tinder. Brother and sister. Well, they match, but then she was only asking cocker in questions about how to get on survivor. So and I'm sure that annoyed him. Well, I don't think that he loves, you know, but he loves ladies. So maybe on a dating so. Victor, Victoria, Nicole. Yes. She also had a crazy story how she just like randomly met a guy with Flint and a machete and he taught her how to. Defy working on that fire working on working on the fire. She read how to win friends and influence people. Cass is recommendation. Yeah. Always want to listen to chaos cath. Right. I listen to chaos cats all the time. That she is a waitress. So maybe she has some Courtney Yates upside her pet peeves are slow walkers leaving the cabinets open. That's when you're slow walkers two. Are we the same person? He this is weird though. She says one of her pet peeve is my Guinea pig who I named peeve. And when customers don't read the menu, and then asked them questions like are their meat balls in the Meatball sauce. Okay. So she as she says my Guinea pig that I named peeve. He's her pet peeve. Right. But then when they ask her about her inspiration in life. She says this is going to sound nuts. But my Guinea pig scam. She's been sick from the moment. I got. So does she collect Guinea pigs to she have multiple? Maybe she's witty. Well, she was trying to be witty earlier. She must have like a Guinea pig farm who has skinny pig farms the she does. Yeah. Tory. Does she has either multiple Guinea pigs or she was lying about one of the stories that she named her Guinea pig pet or she has an entire farm of Guinea pigs. She can't just have to. Does she raised Guinea pig? She's a breeder of Guinea. Yes. Which survivor get doesn't you most? Like, she says I relate to Malcolm Freberg if you read his Wicky fan than page. He's described as likable strategic and excels at challenges. I'd like to think that I'm the same way you'd like to think. Yeah. I did like that. She went back and watched every season the first episode of each season to learn how to not be the first boot. Yeah. That's good smart. Yeah. But she probably should've watched the rest of the season to learn how to win. The first boots do tend to be somebody. That's annoying who does get on get on people's nerves. Yeah. But you know, medically. That's that's usually right. Who gets the dodo music, but more so in the older seasons than you know in. The newer seasons. And it's really gonna come down to. Big tribe here. So we'll say how do you feel about her with Aubrey? And with Joe I feel like her enjoy we're going to hit it off. Yes, why she's a young chick? We know. Jill ladies, Joe is spoken for smoking with. We're where do you live? Are they still together? I thought they broke up who Joe in don't Thomas. I'll I guess I am. I am. Again, Yuna people are gonna be screaming at their phones. A sorry. I don't keep up with gossip gossip is toxic. Yeah. That's not even on Ron's rules. Even Ron is. A mean, girl, he's passing the gossip along. I still I thought he was still with that other chick. I don't know if that was a deal was talking to Sierra Dylan Thomas, I feel like it is ringing a bell. Now. Yeah. But not that bell. Yes. Okay. So. Aubrey Aubrey in Victoria gets along with everybody. She does get along with a lot of people not not the. You know, alpha male. Yeah. Well, not many people do get along with them. Okay. So you think should be fine. Victoria will be fine with Aubrey. All right. Nicole will Victoria, make the jury. I'd like to think she does. But not everybody can make the jurors mathematically, not everybody can make the jury although money. So if she does go to, you know, edge of extinction island stays in the game past the jury like if she's the first boot. But then makes it very far in the game on edge of extinction island is that count as making it to the jury. It's very. Downtown is up. I don't know. Okay. Do you think that she will be out? I think I think she'll she seems like she is. She's smart. She's seems seems athletic. Yes. I'm gonna say she does. She makes the jury. Look somebody's got to go. And it's gonna be it's not going to be that. She if she does give it I don't think she's going to do well at the crazy island, you'll think she'll hang in there now. So I'll say look if we're going to have to say somebody's not gonna make the jury all throw a dart on Victoria now. That's not okay. It's not mean or nice throwing dart that somebody's face nice. It doesn't we didn't even say with her face. But this is the exercise of trying to try to pick six people that won't make the jury. Okay. Or in this case it might be eighteen person season. So could it be six? And then I welcome to your leasing. I also try to bring you back here. When we talk about Aurora. Here's Aurora mccleary. Nicole? She is the thirty two year old divorce lawyer. She's right more Landau felarca. Why does she frighten you because you are scared of divorce attorneys? I think everybody should be scared of divorce attorneys, but look at the look she's giving me she pretty fierce does have a fierce. Look, I think that she certainly, you know, there are outcomes of the season where she does become a villain that. I think that she could give you a Korean vibe potentially. I don't think she's going to be snarky like Currin. I think that she. Is a very intelligent person. And she knows she's intelligent, and she even Senator self she's very mouthy. She's she's a divorce lawyer like she manipulates situations to to take children away from their mothers. Is that what she said? No, it's not what she that. What you think divorce lawyers? Do they fight for custody? Okay. The fight to money. Yeah. Yeah. So look I should might not fight take children away from their mothers those a bit of an exaggeration. But you get what I'm saying. Like, she gets things done that might not be fair. Look, she's a lawyer. She works in divorces, which are very get Nessie and ugly. And she uses that ugly stuff to to get it. Get it done. Good for her. Like she go to what she does. I come around a ROY at first I thought, I don't think this is gonna work out. I don't know if she's going to get along with Aubrey. She seems like that maybe she has like a little bit of a negative energy. I did not think she had a negative energy. But but I came around on her by the end, I think that she is tough things. She knows about the game. They asked her pet peeves. Now, here's where I took a little boy fence here. She's opening up pet peeve. Number one know it alls. Oh, come on. What I think that probably means Stephen it would obviously mean Stephen because when I think about the survivor know, it alls, I think what people wouldn't like about know it alls. I usually feel like that. It's that that that the staff because if she said, you know, podcasters, then I feel like I feel like a more of a shot at me, totally know it all 's I feel like that. Usually when people are using that negative in a negative way. I feel like that. There's like, oh, okay. She doesn't like Stephen because sees like all right knows everything and never admit to being wrong as to be right about everything. Okay. Okay. I get it. So I guess I understand we're like someone's projecting. I'm interpreting which you saying ignorance is like playing the victim any noise coming from the mouth noises are very unpopular with survivors. The easily offended. Yeah. I can see that slow walkers and with your girl or homophobic. Yeah. She has a tattoo. She's in the she got a tattoo after the pulse nightclub shooting, and she's one of several tattoos that she has some Florida. She is from Orlando. She lives in Orlando, John Pensacola, so bus rob lives. I think that Boston Rob's home where he lives in the Pensacola area. So I think that she's gonna be really fun on the Chevy. Great. She's really great TV is going to work out. I don't know. I that. I couldn't tell you. I hope it does. I hope it does. But I would like to claim her for our divorce. Oh, you want her? I get her in our divorce. Well, how do you know that she would pick you? She doesn't like no at all 's that's shit. That mean, Stephen Aurora Colmey. Okay. All right. Well, then look if she if she wants to pull the kids away for me and leave you with with with. Kids. Those are the breaks. You know face time. Yeah. Let me know how that goes. That being said, Nicole. I am excited here for a roar. I think she's fun. I like having this character in the show. I like having this character. But I feel like in reality TV history. The women with strong personalities are very often. I to go. Look there are outcomes of the season where she is an early boot. Yeah. Does she get along with Joe? You know, it's not gonna get along with her. Yeah. Well, you know in fairness to Joe that he did get along with a gen Brown who with all due respect, not always the pillar of positivity. Yeah. But she was kind of like goofball. So look, I think that you know, survivor people are going to be put their best foot forward. So. I'm gonna hope I'll hope that. She'll be. Okay. I think she'll be good with Aubrey. All right. We'll she make the jury, Nicole. I would like to say, yes. But I don't think so I don't think so you don't think so. Yeah. And that's a bummer. I feel like that. She needs to make it to the swap like if she can get. Yeah. Like, she can get to the swab. Maybe she'll be she'll be okay. I'm frankly, in terms of the tribe makeup by a little more bullish on the Aubrey Joe tribe in terms of I think that they might go to less tribal council than the Kelly, David trimbe. I'm really confused as to what the coaches roles even are. They're not coaches the just because that's what it says all over the. Like, the YouTube videos coaches, you'll have to show me what I'm glad that. That is an not an accurate statement with the thirsty YouTube ladies, called them coaches know, you think that they were concentrating on those two. No. I don't believe that they are coaches in any way. Are they going to be sort of like referred to as the captain's of that team captains, captain? No, they're not. They're not coaching role the any of the attorneys give I yeah. So we'll see. All right. That's a raw, Nicole. All right. Two more new people to talk about. Let's talk about Gavin. Because I because this ties back to Aurora where a rural was asked about how issue going to tell people that she's a lawyer. And I think it's going to be very obvious. Well, she's like look I got to tell people I'm a lawyer. I can't go around for thirty nine days. Not tell people that that I'm a lawyer. Of course, we have Nick Wilson who won last season. And then was very concerned about did not tell anybody that. He was a lawyer ultimately got the votes and Nick Wilson is you know, he was able to keep that like, you know, not obvious, right? I mean in my deep dive that I did with Angelina. She was talking about how it was weird. Like, what is this? He's a social worker. Why you bring a blazer on the island? This. A little bit of a disconnect, but he made it work for him. But now here's Gavin who comes in. And I think that he is somebody who we you know, he didn't see survivor thirty seven, but he is because be coming in who's trying to pull off the same. Exact Nick Wilson playbook and lucky lucky for him. Nobody else saw survivor thirty seven. That's on who season because they went to film it right after season thirty six so season thirty seven had already filmed. They didn't see it. But here comes Gavin. Who's like, hey, I want to be like, you know, the combination of JT and Steven. Yeah. But the good JT every like I got to clarify that. We've got a really parse that you're not the love note JT and not not the JT from all the other seasons. I wanna be the JT from token chiens. Okay. So here's Gavin. Gavin has an interesting stories a young man, he got married two days before he went to play survivor. His wife is either like they're either soulmates or he bettered come home with the million. She sounds sweet I wouldn't know about. He is big into Disney stuff is hobbies are going into to DisneyWorld binge watch the office and eat Texas roadhouse pickles. Are they good? Have you had them? I mean pickles. I guess so. That he pet peeve is holding the door for someone. They don't say, thank you. I agree with that. He doesn't like people who vape. Doesn't like people asking if he's still in high school slow texters? Well, now now, you're just getting kind of people who touch the radio in his car people's into the radio in the car. Well, not everybody listens to podcasts and the more. They should snow parents yell at their kids in youth sporting events. Now, this I thought was so interesting to call then they asked him about. What's what survivor gets you most? Like, he said Keith now, everybody loves Keith. I would just play more socially aware. He's the only guy that could compete with Joe angle. I wanna be the guy everyone is pulling for back home. So here's your chance. Well, this is where the. Well, is it that he'd like named dropped him? And that he wanted basically to play with them. Well, a what it means? To come true dream is a wish your heartbeat wish. I wish I could be on a tribe with Joe Angouleme. Enjoy England's like I wish I could be tribe with somebody who's a superfan of mine. Who's in love with him. He's in love with me and so- dreams dreams happen on survivor thirty eight so here is Gavin. And he is ready to be Joey amazing wing man Romans. Yes. Okay. So there you go. There's gavin. Gavin like super nice guy super nice guy. He said that he wanted to have Stephen fish, Bax, brain, y'all. I hope just not his GI tract. I want to have Stephen fish, Bax gut. I think that's what I want to have survivor. If I ever bio, it's like, I think I wanna have JT's brain and Stevens body. Joe's moustache. Like, a Frankenstein of random survivor parts hair. Well, would be that would be a good one to have. Yeah. So gavin. He's going to do the thing where southern the southern guy. He's gonna take advantage of people creek people. I know think he's going to do much tricking. You know, what's going to happen? Nobody's ever going to trust to southern person. Yeah. Like southern guy trying to trick me trying to trick me stir. I know you're you're you're actually a jerk, and you just pretending to be nice seen this before before. I don't know. He's gonna make it very long because here ready has like third degree sunburn on his face. He did have a lot of color early Gavin. Yeah. It's concerning. Okay. All right hanging there. Gavin hang in there. We'll Gavin make the jury not if he gets a sunburn Cochran like blew up like pregnant fee. Yes. Yeah. I think that you could survive a sunburn. Okay. Okay. So will he survive to the jury gonna have to say, no because my math wouldn't add up? I run ousted did Joe. Get voted out too. Probably. Okay. Yeah. Wow. All right. So you think that I think the Gavin will hang around. He'll be there for challenges. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Youth program director. I guess he's good against the seven year old. I saw picture of him without his shirt on. And. Yeah, he's really good shit us in good shape. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Nicole one other new person to talk about here in this trial. No with that. We have a second juli-. Julia. Julia differently. Oh, yes. Not for anything survivor producers. Could we could we not do Julie? And julia. I mean, they don't care. They they'll put a key Kelly Wentworth and Kelly Wigglesworth on the same tribe. They don't care a mess with. Nobody got messed with more than that time. They put a to Rob's on the same tribe that was not a happy ending the. But let's for the sake of everybody. Lou just see juli-. Julia. We're not the seasonal be fine. Just put one Julie on the other tribe. Yeah. Just we don't have to put them together. Is this one of your pet peeves? Pet peeve of mine. But maybe they feel like this producer's like, yeah. But they find they find. The original. It's like they wanna create another rob comes in. It hasn't gone. Great for me. Yeah. I I've had a few instances incidences where there's another Nicole came into the hospital. And I'm like, I'm the OJ in fairness though, that there hasn't been a new survivor, rob since me learn there. Like a bunch of all in a row, and there hasn't I mean, we've had people like, you know, we rods versus Johns, and they're. There hasn't even been Robert I feel like parents have gotten more creative with their baby names. Bobby Johns and Bob Crowley. There's been no robs A Roberts since see season six. Yeah. I mean, I mean new ones. Okay. But here's Julia. Julia Carter she is going to go to med school. She is a medical assistant. That is how I started. Yeah. Her pet peeves are being ignored loud chewing, and when people document everything on social media, isn't that everybody in the millennial generation pushing back. Yeah. Pushing back stand standby thefts. Are you most like, Jeremy he's a physical beast, but he was strategic in his use of idols loyalties alliance and overall honest and personable in his game play. And he was a well rounded player, and he was couldn't win the fantasy league for the Ron coconuts wall wall. Up just short one Dalton Ross one really scandal. Okay. So Nicole, what do we know about? Julia. We know that she is a superfan. She started watching survivor when she was very young after her father passed away. It was something that helped her escape her her life and her cope. Yes. So that's a sweet story bitter. Sweet. I guess. And that she's going to medical school on a full scholarship. Yeah. Shrines and beauty, right? And she seems just super nice, and I don't think that going to do. Well. Yeah. So I don't know if there's a cutthroat gear for Julia. But I don't she doesn't talk about it too much if it's there. No, it didn't seem like she seems like just like a sweet girl that probably doesn't belong on survivor. I mean cheese seems excited to be there. I mean, it's great as a dream come true. But she's probably not a jerk. Well, that's and that's nice. That's refreshing. We appreciate that. It's nice. But I mean, it's it's hard to say that you know, what she's gonna do. We just sort of get like just a one side of her that she's seems like a amazing person. Yeah. But amazing people are not always great TV. Yeah. So we'll see. Yeah. We'll say with Julie, I really I don't have a lot to go off of here with Julia. But what else is in her bio that they asked her about what's your personal claim to fame. She is proud to be the first in her family to graduate, college and pave the way for younger sister and family members. If you could bring anything to the island, what would it be? She bring a pen and paper to document her thoughts. I thought she hates people that documentary on social media papers fine. Yes. Okay. Journaling is fine. Putting it on Instagram not guano. She wants to bring a radio or something to play with everybody wants radio. You can't even listen to a podcast radios in there, a lot of these young people do she wants a radio play music music going, and then she wants a picture of her family everything I do is for them. That would help me get through rough times in the game. So that is Julia. Thank you. Julia. Julia gonna make the jury. I would like her to. But I don't think that's going to happen. I feel like she's an early booed. But they don't vote up people for being nice. I feel like that. She is somebody who is going to be around. And maybe like goes deep into the game. Just because I don't have any reason. Like, what is she going to do this going to get her voted out? I don't know. Maybe she's not great challenges. It didn't seem as though sports was the thing for her. Not that she didn't mention it. Yeah. And there's always the default person who just get. Adventurous. Okay. But not athletic. I guess so I think she'll hang around should be fine person on edge bond with Ron Clark mean girl. He's a positive person. Sure. He would love her. Yeah. I didn't get a lot to go off with. Julia. You kind of what you just want to hug her though, give her a hug, okay? Before we get to talking about the new people from the minute tribe. Wanna take a moment? And thank our sponsor. I know it's one of your favorites. Something that probably would be very useful blinds luxury item for anybody on edge of extinction island, and that is the common comfort weighted blanket. And this is something that Nicole swears by something I would need on the island every single night, Nicole was gonna be on survivor three things you bring with you on the island. I don't know what the others would. They would be no other certainly the calming comfort weighted blanket. Why Nicole why do you love it so much because I have difficulty sleeping. I have a very stressful job a I've two small children. And I have a problem. Sleeping. But as soon as I put this blanket on me. 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Not manure, oh, then forget it. It's nice because it's two words Ma and newer you put them together. Those are those are two nice words. You would think that would have liked that word more. You're sick person Monday. Do. No minu. Okay. That's our. That's our tried that we're gonna talk about next, Nicole. Okay. All right. Okay. So Nicole here we go. Let's talk about these new people. And then we'll talk about all the returnees overall at the end after we get through this our winner picks as well here. But let's open things up here on the Monu tribe. And let's talk about big windy DEA as indie windy. Why you like it just seemed like you were like the Royal rumble announcer. No, no, I just like to say big, Wendy. Here's wendy. It's a good thing that she goes by big Wendy. Oh does. She really. Yes. Because. I think it'll issue little she appeared little she told Josh she was six two. So now, I'm like hold on is is she ironically, big, Wendy. I feel like I need to look at the cast photo. And to see if she is a bigger not. I did not think she was that tall. Okay. So you don't think she's tall. You think? She's it's like when there's a huge person and they call them tiny. I know someone who's actually a a bigger girl and they call her tiny. Yes. So you think that she's ironically named big Wendy Moshi told Josh she was six two like why would she lie? Like Josh's was audio only. Now, I'm saying like, maybe she is Josh giggle. Like his little. No, no, no throwing everything off. I could be way off. Yeah. Okay. All right. So let me see look at this picture of the tribe here of the Minu tribe. Yes. Oh, Kelly wayward is like towering over her in this picture. So. Left of Kelly went. What is Kelly went worth seven eight. I guess she was joking. Yes. She's teeny tiny. Yeah. So she's the ironically named the big Wendy is a self proclaimed. Also, well, this is one where for first one was on video. This one that helped me. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, this is changes this changes everything I'm like, oh, well, big Wendy. They need her for the challenges. Always Joshua's response was he like, I mean, I wasn't. I wasn't like a hanging on it where oh since deception. It wasn't like that. Josh had some sore leisurely. He'll have his. Giggle. Right. Right. Just to recreate that moment, it wasn't like, you know, she had said that she was six two. And then Josh said. I'm you. So under sold moment. Yeah. So okay. All right. Well, all right. So yeah. So and then her cast her cast photo is like from the waist up or maybe she was I was looking at it. And I was like, okay. Well, the good thing that she said she's six to 'cause I wouldn't have got that. She's really tall from her cast photo because it's from the waist up. Because she lied. She's alive. She joked. But it wasn't like she wasn't, sir. Casting enough. Okay. It's an art. You have to master that. Art, if the master. Okay. All right. So not so big Wendy. Big big big, Wendy, ironically, big Wendy. Yes. All right. So here she is. She is a small business owner and now not real business. Why you think she she works for initially? I was like okay multilevel marketing doesn't count as a small business owner. But it turns out she's just she's she's not where did you get multilevel marketing from. That's just what the, mommy groups. That's what they call their businesses. But us disparaging Wendy, not even true. Right. But this is what I initially thought. Okay. All right. So we're we're totally off the Mark on Wendy so far that I've got a couple of people that Joshua's talks about how she is a works at the swap meet she's meet vendors vendor. But I think a lot of people thought the Josh said, she's a swamp meat vendor. Who wants want me down in the bayou? Bender. Yeah. No. But she's a swat meet vendors the flea market. I don't know what she sells at the swap meet. Yeah. I'd like to go to the swap meet. They have some over here. Yeah. I'd like to go. Yeah. Slop, I don't know. I've been fascinated with the swap meet I feel like ever since. I first heard snoop talk about going to the swap meet. Out of what's snoop says been felt like what is it? What is it? Like, I'd like to go like go down there because I wanted to try gin and juice after snoop was talking because when I first heard about it. I thought swap meet, oh, you go there, and you trading stuff like snoop has like a bunch of stuff. And he's like, hey, I'll give you this could be one of those. I wanted to check it out. But I think it's I think it's just if they would've called it a flea market. I mean, I've been to the try-count flea market. It's not that exciting and busy before run. All right. But we're getting we're getting distracted was way better. Okay. So I want to talk about big Wendy. She's excited. She's pumped up to be there. Good energy from big Wendy. Do you not give this woman coffee? Joe? Why was she on coffee when she was doing? These interviews horribly not and I think coffee would put her over the edge. Yeah. She going to this is the tribe. Just to reset this. This is the tribe with Wentworth and with David Wright, also put it through the prism. Of how she going to get along with with those people are going to get along in this bigger group. David Wright, ain't having it the cold. You wanna give us any the body language breakdown? Anything you jump? I know that's one of your your trademark things David Wright looks severely uncomfortable. I think that that's a lot of times. Yes. A little stiff very uncomfortable looks. He might have a wedgie. Okay. Kelly went worth looks very confident. He looks chill. She looks confident Hong got this. She got this. Big Wendy doesn't look big. She looks like she's posing a bar like with the arm. Okay. Lauren though. All right. Anybody else? Anything else jump out, the everyone just seems kind of individual seems if it's it doesn't seem like a cohesive? Alright. So that's a good pick up by Nicole. Okay. Feel like it's a cohesive group back to who's the chick next to Lauren in the underwear. In the underwear. And who's that ream? Yes. I mean, David Wright, she looks very closed off closed off cross cross, Nicole such a body language expert. Yes. How's my body language right now? Thanks, okay. All right. All right. All right. We're getting about this guy. Thanks for listening to the podcast everybody. We're going to wrap this one up big windy, and she is feeling good about big Wendy. No, no, no. I was feeling so much better about her. When I thought she was Sixty-two. Why are you don't like little girls? It's not like Wendy's. She was going to be in my head. She was like their beast in the challenges. She was like out there like dunking on people and the challenge chips. Yeah. That's not. That's not it. Yeah. Because she said like be like, I think that she mentioned machine loves Michaela. Like, oh, yes. She's like a challenge like Michaela. She is good at challenges. When Michaela was dragging all those people during the like, they had like the basketball challenge in the water millennials versus genetics. This is big big Wendy. Yeah. But now, she's but she's not as big as I thought she could do rubik's cube in three minutes. Oh, that's good. She's smart. That's impressive. That is impressive. And it's good. If you could actually do that. I saw lady on Australian survivor who told her she could do it. But. Couldn't actually do it, Nicole. So overall how you feel about big Wendy? I'm sure she's she seems like a very nice person, and she seems like very full of life and just like totally in the moment and excited, but if I were on the island, and I was hungry, and I was tired. I would be severely irritated with her being so happy. Well, hopefully, she doesn't lose that. I don't think you get too annoyed with people that are too happy on survivor. Germy Collins used to get annoyed with people that were too happy in his first season. But people overall, they don't mind it as Mon Jeremy, we get it Lee each other. But she loves karaoke to Nicole. Did you know this about big Wendy did she loves karaoke? And she does she does not party person. She'd rather stay home and do karaoke by herself. This sounds like your Dreamgirls, Wendy, not everybody loves big Wendy's karaoke, though, but I have to be honest. And he really is pathetic. I mean, three twenty four years old and karaoke in your basement. Yeah. Come on leave or leave big Wendy alone. That was uncalled for Roger come on her alone. Okay. All right. She wants to do it all make people think she's the dumb blue haired, girl. She comes from the most corrupt city in America, social it right in on survivor. She hates quitters. All right. Nicole? Tell me is big Wendy gonna make the jury gonna say new no no seat. Doesn't know. I'm going to even say, she's the first one out on this. Try all my God. I'm very sorry. Wendy, very very, and I had tall Wendy making the jer. But now, I'm convinced. Here by not as big as I thought Wendy. Yeah. So the last tribe put a lot of people on the jury jury, I feel I don't feel great about this tribe. I kind of feel like that the that the other tribe I that they meshed well with Aubrey and Joe, and I feel like it's going to be a well oiled machine this tribe. I feel like could be the disaster. Try I feel like that this try it's going in a lot of different directions. A lot of really strong people are Sanal personalities in this lettuce. Strong bodies on this tribe to the other tribe. I think could be boring and win this tribe. I think could be more interesting and go to a lot of tribal think. So I think that this tribe is really strong. Yes. So math isn't really my strong suit. So I put a lot of people on the jury from the other tribe. But I think that that's the math doesn't add up because I think this tribe is actually not gonna go to trouble council. Okay. So do you want to look? Back and think of anybody that should not make the jury from the other tribe said, okay? So you're just gonna put every single person in the cast on the jury. Okay. Just want on the clear about that. Except except for Wendy. Okay. All right. So down on big wind down on Wendy. I think she's a lovely person. I just don't think that she's going to mesh well with this tribe. Okay. All right. Let's go to our next person in this group. And let's talk about news caster. Rick newscaster, Rick, right? Nicole? Should we do host the RHA morning newscasts talk about? Rick. It's been my dream. Okay. All right. Do we have any morning intros show music? Not really, but I guess probably the Colo Cest. We we have for that is probably courtesy of celebrity big, brother. We'll go. Yes. Good morning, everybody. Let's wake up and talk about Rick Devon's. I'm rob sister Nino, and I'm here with Nicole, Nicole, good morning. Good morning back to you. Okay. Rise and shine everybody. It's going to be. Hot and wet one in Fiji. We're talking about Rick. That's it. Yes. Nicole? How was your weekend? It's just like a Regis Kelly type show, or at least talk like that. Off the air for really long time, and the well the Kelly and Ryan who wants to hear from Ryan not me anymore. Yeah. All right. I barely even know how to host the podcast. Let's talk about Rx eight that that truth, right? Morning news. Rick from Blacksburg Virginia got a lot of morning news in Virginia these days. A lot of news coming out of Virginia Rix, keeping Rick busy in Virginia pet peeves not taking ownership of actions over explainers waiting in line and people not using coasters. Gotta respect would you that is Rob's favorite thing to say respect. Woods would Rick respect would. So that'll very important for him. Then which survivor test you the most lice Cochran, he was a strategist. He's also a genuinely nice guy. Have you? Met us a that's that's that's what the word is a genuinely nice guy. But he was there to play. Yeah. Yes. Cochran is a nice guy. Such a nice guy. Why do you think you'll survive survivor? He's an eagle scout. And but he's is he eagle scout is like a grownup. No, it's not I think so I think that's after the cub scouts. Like, you can't be a grown up. I think that eagle scout. Nicole? I don't know why you're shading the boy scouts. But I mean that was a long time ago. Rick eagle scout is the highest chievements or rank attainable in the boy scout program of America. Okay. So think I think that's a high rank, Nicole? It's a high rank, but was a long time ago if twenty one merit badges along, I think that this is another thing that you don't know what you're talking about right now often that you're you're you're coming down hard on the eagle scouts for no reasoning down hard on the eagle scouts. I'm just saying that it was it was a long time ago. Okay. Three words describe you, funny, compassionate, and loyal. So rick. He is I think he's going to be fun as a good to add good attitude. I feel like Rick is you if you were to have played at thirty three played at thirty three instead of a million years ago. Yeah. Okay. So Nicole de feel like that Rick is going to fit in. Well, I feel like he has a good personality. And he's entertaining. And if he knows how to dial it back when he needs to dial it back he'll do. Well, nicole. He's going to tell people that he is a morning news anchor. Do you is this a good idea or a bad idea? I think it's fine. I feel like it's gonna play great. Why? Because he's he's on television. Not a celebrity looking for any reason to vote you off. And it's like, oh, he's on TV. He has a career vote him off. Well, everybody I mean, most older people have careers. He just happens to be a news anchor d make a lot of money as a news anchor. She says that he does not so. I used to a girl who was a a meteorologist on on a scam. Now. No, I don't wanna news. She claimed they didn't pay her anything. Yeah. It was like that. They just like it's like it's procedure 'cause you're on TV, but you don't make any money. Yeah. And that's what that's what she told me. So I don't know that that is very small sample size of the one person. I know that was in local news can Spradlin on a morning news show. Yeah. Was it like, but was she wasn't like a news anchor. Right. I think it was that was like more of like a morning talk shows a morning talk show was more on that. I I've I bet she's expensive. I think the thing is when it's sort of like, it's your show, then you make money, and then when it's sort of like, they could just like take you out and plug a new person in then they don't pay you as much, you know. So who knows? Let's just see the tax return. So, but this is the type of speculation that you'd have on the island. Yeah. Okay. So Nicole, do you feel like that the other will like Rick? Yeah. I do I think that he's he seems like a likable guy. He's funny as long as it doesn't get annoying. I think he'll be fine. Okay. Although it was weird that he wanted to bring Legos with him. A why? Because living in a house with two boys. That are obsessed with Legos. I feel like that is the last thing. I'd wanna see on vacation. Away from the windows. Yes. Do you feel like that? He is going to get along with Kelly Wentworth, but she likes him. I think so she'll like he doesn't see he doesn't seem out there. He doesn't seem like he's very like he's not the leader type. Okay. So you feel feel good about wreck. I do. I feel good about wreck. Okay. Rick gonna make the jury will make the charring will make the jury. The merge. Okay. If he goes to the edge of extinction island will he do. Okay. He's going to die. He will. I will say, I don't know. I just the people are gonna look at him. He's got the the news angle going talk. Like, he's a he's a news anchor. He's not like a robot. Look at that dimple. I think that he also eats glasses. I say L he could be a superfan. Let's get rid of him. I'm nervous about Rick. Yeah. I put two people on the jury from the tribe. So I'll say that he not enough room. Yes. I'll say I'll say that not on the jury, but he'll do. Okay. If he goes the edge of extinction island. No, he's gonna die. He's not. We would know. We would have heard something if if if the unthinkable. Yeah. Okay. Nicole? Let's go ahead. But let's see he was fun with Josh. So let's let's see let's Loren Loren o Connell. She is the college soccer player. She went to the very prestigious Baylor University. Yes. And she is twenty one a Waco, Texas. Yes. She started off in California and ended up in Texas good publicity for Waco. Texas her pet. Peeves are people who are intolerant of someone else's personal? Opinions and beliefs unnecessary rudeness, all those misguided people who choose twizzlers over red vines, then that's something. You can get behind me. And sounds like someone is intolerant. To my personal beliefs of twizzlers being better than red vines. Yes, I tried to get Nicole to eat red vines one time it did not go. Well, no because twizzlers better. I'm a red vine guy twizzlers is like you're gonna break a tooth red vines, delicious hobbies binge-watching multiple Netflix series at once. That's impressive say the second person that has on this tribe that said that that's one of their hobby who multiple shows, I don't know about multiple shows show. Oh, learn needs a life. Okay. Well, she's a college athlete but mentions dumb college. Now, she likes to sleep through her alarm, and she can eat a party size peanut Eminem bag in one sitting. Now, she's gonna lose Nicole on the peanut Eminem. She lost me on Dem's and frigging red vines don't invite her to your next candy party, Nicole believe me, she's not invited. Yeah. I'm with with Lauren on this one that the red vines are superior. That's another reason why I have to call Rura tag red vines a hashtag twizzlers team twizzlers pita Eminem. So hopefully. We're on. We're on the I wouldn't eat a lot of red vines to be honest. I would eat a like a one pound bag of twizzlers in one city. You get like the Cosco red vines, and you have like a whole has like a cool thing open. It. Like, it's a big thing that like a cake would be inside you pull the top off bad king. Okay. All right, Nicole. But let's talk about the game here. She had a little Barbie dolls of Tina and Colby. Yes. They had Barbie dolls. She knows that she had Barbie Barbie dolls and she named them Tina and Colby. So she can play with them. You're the last thing you want to be vertu the plastic Barbie with no Pinas giving Ken from genetics was not one of those. Yes. Okay. All right. She bonds with David Wright over talking about KENDALL. Okay. All right. She's through some shade at RS. Also, she says she'd rather be would you rather win the game and be unmemorable or be memorable? But not win. She would rather be memorable. And not wait because she doesn't want to be like ours. Ours is. Doing very well. Okay. He just had another baby. Yes. Great. Great. So Lawrence does not want to play like, poverty, she has thinks the world of poverty, and I'm done. Okay. You're done. We have this thing where anyone who like refers to themselves as like poverty is is not a true player. Why did you say end the call because everybody thinks they play like -partment Don anymore. Now, they say they'll be like Andrea she's a throat, but no one's even even mentioning Android. Now, I don't know who the new Andrea is. I don't know if we people forgot about Andrea originally went worth now. I don't know. But Andrea played more recently than Kelly went worth. So we didn't have like one person that everybody talks about. Yeah. So I don't know if there's a new female role model for all these players. Maybe it'll be Lauren. It could be Lauren. What do you think about her? I think that I was very nervous when I was watching her video that there was going to be a wardrobe malfunction. Really? Yes. See these that I focus all my attention on first one out. I don't get that as much now. We're we'll well rounded here, we get a little bit of everything. Well, yeah. Okay. And they wear well round easy, easy. Okay. Nicole? I don't get a lot from her in terms of like her game play. She seemed really excited to be there. I mean, she mentioned that she was excited like five times. It was like Jesse Spanos. I'm so excited. I on this. She is into her faith bring her bible. She didn't bring SPF twenty-five. Everybody needs a little tan looks good on everybody. Really into Eminem ze. Tan skin is unhealthy skin. Okay. Well, you just one of the many things you disagree with her. Okay. Nicole how you feel about Lauren. I think she's going to do well on the call her big Lauren because she's looks like she's a towering over big Wendy. How are you feeling about Lauren? I think she's gonna do. Well, I think the do well on this tribe. I think that she's athletic. She's going to do well in the challenges. I see her meshing with Kelly Wentworth. Yes. Her and Wentworth have something. She makes the girls alliance thing. I can see her fully Lauren falling into that. If she doesn't have a show Mance with that other dude. Okay. Well, you the she could be in a showman. Interesting. So they asked her which survivor doesn't you most like poverty? Shallow is my spirit animal her infectious smile. Smart wit and expertise and using her sexuality has a one. Her a place in my heart. And I feel like my game play could be similar to hers. I also strongly relate to Kelly went words game play. She is unapologetically herself dominates. The physical demands of survivor and is a threat to win any type of challenge. Ideally, I would play the game as a perfect mix of these two powerful female. So she is a huge Kelly Wentworth fan. And as luck would have it at of all the gin joints in Fiji. She just so happens to end up here with Kelly Wentworth, amazing the survivor God's again girl out. I don't know if this is gonna fan girl to be excited. Yeah. I'm so pumped up. So like, she's an ally early ally for Kelly Wentworth. Does she have to take that picture and her underwear Nicole what they don't give them their bathing, suits? So no one else is in their underwear. This is David rights bathing suit that he's wearing the call look Kelly. Kelly went worth the probably that's her underwear. Well, yeah. This is her third season. She knows how she's doing. I mean that's been a thing for a long time. Big wendy. She's got some Umbro shorts. Okay. That might be her her shorts like. It might be one hundred ten degrees, and she might only have pants. So you don't don't don't judge the wardrobe picture? You don't know what they're? What they're what they're working underwear? You don't know what it's like. Okay. And I'm telling that is not David rights, bathing suit. All right, leave my David Wright alone. I'm just telling you based on what we see in this picture. Okay. Nicole? And so on the jury or not. I think that she's gonna make the jury jury who's everybody else can have the biggest jury ever. And then if she goes to educate extinction island will she be okay? Even without the red. Von now, even without the peanut Eminem on Eminem's. No, lauren. Okay. Let's talk about Keith Keith. So well will he do so? Well this season a call. Let's see let's talk about Keith. He's our young men this season. Only nineteen years old very happy to be happy. Happy guy likable kid from lives in Durham, North Carolina from cream as still North Carolina. Yeah. The doctor Alison neighborhood, and he is religious he's competitive, and he is creative. He loves survivor the super fans superfan over the years. Not a lifelong fan. I'm more of a recent convert, but he's gone back and watched everything he says he hates it when self absorbed. People talk about all the money, they have and the things that they've done and are only actively engaging in conversations with the topic is about them or they're equals. That's annoying. Okay. That is annoying. All right. He is nineteen. He is going to tell people that he is nineteen. So unlike the Michael yorgen of the world, he's going to just come right out and tell people. Hey, look, I'm nineteen everybody. Yeah. Unlike who was at Jessica last season is going to tell people she's twenty one. She's twenty two Keith is going to come out. And he is going to tell people that he is nineteen. I don't remember. When will wall play. Did he tell people twenty one? I don't think I think he might of there really has any effect on the game. While Keith says his thing that he can only screw you up. So he's going to he's going to try to. Work can't maintain the lie, which knows his limits. Right. And. Unlike Michael yerba, I don't know how how Michael yogurt say. He was he's twenty-five Michael Yeager was able to like pull it off. Right. Keith looks young. He looks young. He looks young. So David Wright did play with will wall. The first time around a little bit of expertise in dealing with the younger players out. There keeps a positive guy. He won't quit. So the call how do we feeling about Keith I like heath and I'm rooting for him. But I think that maybe. Not the best tribe for him to be on the best drive for the be on. Why I think he he might not be part of the crowd with this this tribe. Why do you say that what do you feel he won't fit in? I feel like that. He has he's just and you could talk to Lauren about that. He's a likable young kid. Likes. Jeremy Collins, it seems played in two seasons with him. Yeah. But there's a lot of athletic people on this tribe, and they're going to just want to pick off someone who's seemingly week a why do you feel he's week? I don't know. I guess it's just the age thing. So maybe the age is is a factor. I mean that I thought he was maybe shorter. But I mean in this picture row tall. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's the problem with these I need like heighten weights on these bio we need measurements. You're 'cause I looked at this picture. And I was like, oh, he's probably like a like a shorter guy. Yeah. But then in the picture, I don't know if he's in the back row and he's doing he's doing fine. Yeah. So I have no idea. Yeah. The second tallest person on the tribe in this picture much taller than big Wendy's Castro. So I don't know, but it's hard for hard to tell. But yeah, I think he's going to be he's going to be fine. He doesn't seem like he's sneaky seems like he's a nice young kid who's getting rid of the sky. The nice ones are always the target though. World in in life. Yeah. But I think in Savar he's not stepping out unless he's going to make a big mistake think they go after people that are sneaky early on or the super fans yet. But this is super fans are sneaky, you know. Like, a Jacob Derwin who's out there and people are like suspicious because he's doing crazy stuff like dumping out all the rice and putting in and he's a big idol or, but I don't think that he's going to be as sneaky. I think that he's going to use his brain. Sure, I think that that is going to be he's he's he's seen smart. I think that might put a target on him. I think he's gonna be. Okay. He's okay. He's gonna be alright. So I think he's gonna make the jury. Yeah. Okay. What about if he goes to the edge of extinction island? Do you feel like it will be able to survive out there? I don't think anybody's going to survive out there. I don't know if he has any survival skills. He talks about a writing and performing vital skills. Stephen. He likes tennis that's outside that could be played inside though. He likes video games and board games and going to the movies on the inside. Stuff. Sounds like someone you'd want to be friends with. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I used to play tennis. I used to go the dabble. Yes. Dabble? I bought you a tennis racket for Christmas. You know, it's a lot of work to go. Like, if I if I you need a friend all by living, like a condo that. I could just go and like they had tennis on site. Maybe when notably moves to LA you can play with him. Right. But I still have to go Ravel somewhere. It's like get in the car and go to go play some as you go there. And then you have to wait to get the oh like open. So that's not. So it's all it's cracked up to me. Like a cranky old, man. Right. Okay. All right. I hope Keith is having better luck with tennis than all, right, Nicole. Let's talk about war dog, Dan, the war dog to Silva. And I could see this going either way for you, Nicole. Let's talk about the war dog. He is from Ossining. New york. Do you know where that is? I don't the leave. It's upstate let me take a look at that. I don't think it's too far north Ossining and say if I had to guess, let's see us inning is looks like floor flow. I know it's just north of Manhattan like, okay, West Chester area. He but he now resides seeing Los Angeles, he's thirty eight and. Slowly, the war dog. He doesn't like weakness like negative energy in that person that complaints constantly that the world never goes their way. Not what dog likes. I don't like that. Either. The war dog or just wore dog and I didn't see the in his tattoo. Yes. Although they asked him which survive most like, and he goes third person with the he says the war dog is his own blend. I'm not Tony. I'm not the specialist. Not boston. Rob. Who's the question who you're not who's gains that I respect the most? That's a better question. I thought you played well adult Mike was a great winner. Poverties game. Earls Earl dominated the third version of Tyson. The first version of country bumpkin parentheses JT. That's the war dog. Yes. All right, Nicole. What is your take on the war dog? I feel like he like Dominic. I felt like he's part of my family. Okay. So all right. So you can relate to the ward. Oh, yes. So all right. You famously love Tony love, Tony. Yes. Do you? Do you still ever communicate? Right. Owning Tony goes to. He goes like. Like, you were messaging me a lot. Now. I don't use many years ago. Not that many. All right. Well, if you ever talked again, tell them I said, hi. Love. Dominic bata? What Joe men where did you to like Jomon? Okay. You didn't like that? He was lower than than some of the others. Well, when you when you reach outs me your loving, you still love this archetype getting a little like, okay? This before not, you know, I love it. Okay. All right. And you are prepared to love the war dog. Well prepared. Okay. Yes. War dog also Jim basketball net. Flicks. Binging big Mets fan, another Netflix spending. Yes. Was I like that? I like that. I think that also did it for me two doesn't even Mets tattoo. Yes. But a nets tattoo also. Well, we won't hold that against him. Not many people out there with a nets nets tattoo. Yeah. Not a lot of people out there. And certainly not a nets Mets and more dog. Okay. Why do you think you'll survive survivor? He says I bring a certain sex appeal that men my age haven't had for over a decade old or most of never had. But I digress. I also bring a sharp mind likable, joyful personality, one that can be both subservient when I need to be and a leader when his vacuum of leadership. I bring a strong physical skills, and I won't be whining and complaining in the end. I'll make them laugh when we're all having this rule moment. I feel like he really speaks my language too. Because I what part of your life taught. He's like, oh, I digress. Like that. Yes. I understand. Okay. And then he talks about him being confident and self amused me to your Muser self. Yes. You don't seem that amused. That often only when I'm with you. Okay. All right. Well, that's not self amuse. I can amuse myself if I wasn't around and you were by yourself. He would be amused person. I often walk into a room, and you seem annoyed you're saying that you were happy before I was in the room with those two children downstairs, they often ruined myself amusement. Okay. All right, Nicole. How are you feeling about the war dog? I like him. I feel like he's pretty aware of his stereotype on the island. I hope that he can change their minds and make him self not the target. Yup. Because he's going to be the target. If everyone thinks he's Dominic and Tony and Joe MENA for sure right? There is something that this archetype has in common the east coast, mid thirties guy who has confidence and runs an attitude a come out there. And they what do they do? They won. They raise their hand and call people out. Into that. They go look for the idol. Yeah. They're gonna they're gonna they're out there looking for the idol that do you feel like is the war dog that are people going to be really zeroed in on him? Yes. Yes. So he needs to stay put don't go looking for an idol. Don't go read any male, but Kenny help it hopefully on day one. Yeah. So I don't know. I think that he might you think Kelly went is going to be into the war dog. I think Kelly Wentworth is going to have our own problems. What does that mean? I think that she's her own. She's another target. Is she likely to want to keep the war on keep the war dog around? I feel like here's what I think is happening that they get there on day. One war dog is like, hey, new guys. We gotta vote out the returning players like he's going to if anybody in this cast is like, hey, vote out the returning players. This is our season. If he goes with his stereotype, yes. Yes. Okay. Well, what do you see about the war dog that makes you feel like that? He is going to against some self control. We'll see some awareness of what he shouldn't do. I think it'd be fun. But I don't know. And it's really gonna come down to are these new players gonna follow the war dog. Or is he going to follow Kelly Wentworth and David right into battle. The war dog is ready to be a general here. Well, he he said that he doesn't want to be the leader. Okay. So you think that he's willing to be like Malcolm in his first season. Where like, hey, Russell swan. You're the leader. Maybe we'll see. We'll see. I mean, it's not looking good just based on history. But hopefully, okay, the call is the war dog on the jury. I feel like he's either early out or. Or that's this tight. I know. I know I'm going to say I'm going to have confidence in him low-floor high ceiling. Yeah, dog I'm going to say he makes the jury because I the jury these are my dudes. Okay. And then if the war dog goes to edge of extinction island will will be okay. Oh, he's seen worse. You seen seen worse? All right. All right. I'll say that does not make the jury award. Sorry to say, yeah. It's hard to say. I think that he tried to insurrection and then gets smoked out. So we'll see we'll insurrection. Let's hey, let's vote out the fraternity players, and then it doesn't go. So great. Yeah. A christina. Cal of his time. Okay. Let's talk about ream daily. Let's talk remake daily from Fairfax Virginia Virginia person here and she likes chess kickball and neighborhood security. That's like you. She's me. Let me tell you chefs is just is just like you the chess. Yes. But I as she was talking. I was like oh my God. This lady is crazy. Then as she kept talking. I'm like this lady is me. What do you feel like she's crazy the way that she talked like, she's super animated? She's funny. She's you know, she says some really out there stuff, and I fell like I got kicked in the head with a kick ball that. This is me. Bowl used to be. I don't wanna brag kickball champion champion of what of gym class of Jim class with their atropine intermural sports Ural kickball champion. I would I would start a moms group kickball league. Yeah. I remember you sort of moms group softball league those girls have no follow-through. Yeah. Okay. She doing neighborhood security. What does that mean? That means that she has a bunch of cameras in front of her house Kohn perhaps Hallelujah cone, maybe a sign that says, no parking or your car will get towed. Okay. She probably doesn't force when people block her driveway. Probably. Yeah. She does not like intolerance. Okay. Well, we. Bad manners, nose picking slackers and snobs. Yeah. I hear ya. Okay. All right. I didn't not get a lot for isn't that you got a lot of personality for marine. I did not get a ton for marine. I watched the Orissa video who by the way is my girl crush. Yes. Okay. Love her Orissa is going to be with us on the podcast, very soon. Oh, and she me here. She's not going to be here. She was here. She was here for the finale in Los Angeles in the studio, you will not be here. She gets she lives in she lives in. I know did ET Canada. She was in Los Angeles for the finale, the big brother candidate is starting up very soon. She so much more beautiful in persons round the corner. Yes. Okay. All right. But anyway, I digress. Digress. Okay. So what did that renew with the risk? She was just really animated. She was funny. She was totally crazy. Okay. She was talking about how she's honest, and she's not a good liar. And she just says what she says sometimes people just need to hear things, and they need to deal with it. Okay. All right. So you feel good about Rian. She. Yes. And then she'll story. Yes. That she was preparing for survivor, and she was like, all right. I'm gonna go. The gym, and I'm gonna work out, and I'm gonna lose weight, and I'm really well. And then she decided that she was going to have like, no carbs, no sugar. And she thought she was doing really great and she got on the scale, and she only lose two pounds. And she basically cursed out the scale out the gym, and they kicked the oh my God. So you you feeling good about ream? No, I like her like her. Yeah. And so we'll remake the jury. No. No. Okay. The edge of extinction island. She will die do poorly. I don't think she'll do well there. Yeah. But I love her you. Okay. So you're you're very like the stripe. Yeah. You're gonna be great television your high on. I mean ream for me, she fits the profile of the classic first boot. Yeah. A Christina Radke type the, you know. You know, I feel like the people tend to go for older woman historically in the first tribal council. So I think there's a non zero chance Reema could be the first one out here. I don't know. I'm not I'm not feeling it with rim. Yeah. And that's a sad story because I think she'd be really fun to watch. But was she work with the returning players could that be saving grace for her? I think that she'd be willing to work with whoever as long as they're not like a big jerk. A big jerk. They asked her what survivor has to you the most like she's Stephanie Grosso because she does not give up and Rudy Bosch because he just does not care. And either does she? You know that rematch. She doesn't care and she does the neighborhood security. Yeah. Has to do it. It's really important. Yeah. Okay. So let's see let's see how ream does Stephanie gross ick. It's still gets a lot of like which survivor contestant you most like and she doing she's married kids player three kids. I want to say she me. She hasn't played since survivor twenty. She was the second person out in survivor heroes vs villains. But people still talk about human impact. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's talk about our final new player. And this is Mr Chris Underwood. Chris don't call me Francis Underwood. He is twenty-five. He is from South Carolina, and he is a district sales manager. Yes. Okay. And so Nicole, do you have any strong feelings about? Chris underwood. I think that he kind of he kind of gave me like Kris noble vibes. Franklin would it's also from South Carolina. Yeah. So he is your Kris noble. Kris noble ish. Chris noble issue. Yeah. Okay. I don't want to be labeled as the golden boy about probably will. Yeah. He was giving me some modern day. John fincher vibes. Chris Underwood is opposed. He he came on real strong with Joshua. What do you mean that he's talking about really hanging onto some listen to I one out elevator? Was you know? Curling? Well, he he seemed to be you really was clinging to one specific reference from which was which is a very obscure reference. They quote about Monica, the repeat repeated. What's best for Monica from for Monica. Monica Culpepper ISM from so I replied versus water. So that was stuck in his head. He kept saying that his personal claim to fame is his professional career. He went from being a barista to managing the number one sales team in the solar company in a year. Very good. Yeah. He is personable. He's a hustler and he is intuitive wrong season. Okay. What are you most like, Malcolm because of his charm, rob because he is a leader? But also manipulative I mean, I was not that manipulative Spencer clear, but I don't stand out today. Well, I think that if he was talking about Boston rob say, Boston, rob. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're on a first name basis and Ozzy because he has skills in the water. Okay. Did you know that Mr Chris Underwood decided to go to the gym and get jacked, and he tried to hard and pulled a muscle and had to stop. Oh, you are. No, Ozzy, my friends Ozzy is you know, to go to the gym. Yeah. Ause he doesn't really get big. Yeah. But as he wouldn't have pulled a muscle framing. I I don't know what he is doing outside of us. Okay. I don't know. What is is up to? All right. So nicole. I don't know about Chris under. I just feel like, you know, I glance on paper like seems like okay, good good fit here. But I don't know how well is he getting along with this group? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if he's really going to going to fit in great here. I mean, who is he for Rennes with year in this minute tribe, and he may picture back. I mean that is a is e friends with the war dog. Does he does he go along with war dogs plan? I feel like that Kelly Wentworth does not care for this type of character now, but I'm predicting a showman's between Lauren and this couch. Well, that's something. Yeah. I kind of get like a Pete from survivor Philippines, vibe from him. Yeah. Do you? Remember that guy now? But you say, I think I think yeah. Like, he was he was hanging out with our see. And then he put like it. But then he was hanging out with Abby Maria, and then he put the idol note in our seas bag to make it look like that are see how the idol this guy doing that. Yeah. Like a troublemaker. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't I don't feel great about Kris either. I don't I don't think my friend David Wright is going to be feeling this. Yeah. I don't know if you like to see right there. I feel that Kelly in David. I dunno Fave got the right new players that they might be to embarrass like, I thought this is the tribe that could be all over the place all over the place. I could see that could be all over the place. So is Chris gonna make the jury. Probably probably. Yeah. Okay. If he goes to the edge of extinction islands, he'll die. He'll talk. Yeah. Yeah. I guess. Have too many people not making the jury, but I'll say Chris not other during. Yeah. Okay. And then he'll be fine on the edge of extinction island. Yeah. We're so opposite married. Well, it's a good question. Okay. Nicole we didn't touch on the tribe picture for the comma tribe. Could you just give us real quick your expert body language appraisal? Okay. So my expertise is that they already voted out aubrey's pants. Poro breeze pants. They seem to be like half and half at this Victoria here that she's already like sneaking closer to aubrey's about to yon and put her arm around Aubrey. She's she's off with Aubrey yet. No pants party. And then it looks like a divide in between. Look how confidence she looks just standing there myself like not even arms cross just like, I am a strong woman. And then there's the dudes in the back that are just like. They all have goofy smiles. Yes. Okay. So overall, you feel better or worse about this group? I feel like this group is also like on different pages. Like, there's three different groups in this. There's Aubrey and what's her name again, Victoria, toria shoe blood girl, and then Aurora and Julie and Gavin off to the side, and then the three dudes in the back, and then Julia just kind of by herself she's like a mile away from everybody. All right. So to call let's talk about our returning players since we're on the page with Joe, and Aubrey let's talk about them now. Talked a ton about the returning players. So I don't think we need to really revisit them too much. I think we kind of know what to expect. But now in terms of the three dimensional view of who they're going to be playing with. Let's talk about the prospects. And let's start with Aubrey. I love Aubrey. She got me a cactus. She wasn't a cactus. She got it for me. No. I thought it was for me for me. Okay. Yes. But I named it. I named it Aubrey too stupid. And that's. So I appreciate that. Okay. So Aubrey how do you feel about Aubrey now that she's here in this group? I think that Aubrey will be able to think she'll be able to do well with this group that she's very she's very sweet. And she knows how to talk to people. She's already got Victoria, trying to get in her pants that she's not wear them. Yeah. Aubrey says that she wants to be like a hummingbird. She wants to float around and have fun. Every has learned a few things from her time on my favorite way to play survivor. Yeah. Just just go have fun. Yeah. And so we're pants like what's better than that? Okay. So I feel like that Aubrey is set up here. Well, yes, I like her attitude going into this. I was worried about Aubrey at first I thought maybe she could be in a bad stuff. I thought that she has a very soft landing spot here. Yeah. Yes. So I feel I feel good about Aubrey here. Good too. I mean, I don't see a scenario where this tribe is gonna travel council and saying, hey to get rid of Aubrey aubrey's the problem here now, I don't see that. Yeah. So I feel that she set up. Okay. I think so too. I agree. Yeah. Let's let's check in with aubrey's bio that we haven't looked. Okay. Let's see what Aubrey is is talking about going into this aubrey's pet peeves revisionist history. That is annoying. That is annoying. Let's see. She also says what the survivor contestant you the most like Aubrey Bronco very Aubrey of her. Yes. She said, what is the three words describe you intuitive scrappy and persistent. Yeah. I would agree. Her hobbies are gardening. That's talked about the cactus. I live in an indoor jungle she likes crayon, art. She likes astrology as well. Okay. You hate astrology. I don't hate astrology. Whenever I say, something you like real, you're is what do, you know about astrology a lot. But you don't want to hear please enlighten me in other podcast. I would load. Tell me one thing about astrology. We'll wait not right now. All tell us one thing about astrology. And who is your one thing about Stroje? Please, nicole. That's all I wanna know you one thing fleas. Yes, that's true. You're kind of like on the cost. Okay. What else? Your jerk. I don't think so. All right. Why do you want to? On the task at hand. Just won't why you say things, and there's no because that's what I do. I. Lert things out that are just like, I don't know if you're just like a pathological liar. My creative creative. Okay. And I do like astrology, right? Aubrey is Aubrey gonna make the jury. I'm going to say, yes. I can't see why not. Yeah. Okay. Well, she could be okay on island of extinction. No, you know. Now. She has no quit. She went. She says she has no quitting her. Yeah. So okay. All right. Let's talk about Joe Joey mustache Jones Ari. But I would just vote him out because of his mustache, you do not been well dies well-documented. Yeah. The Joe's hobbies include filmmaking, videography, art and equine therapy design, creative, art, nature, therapies, yoga and hiking with all these Hamis. How does he get anything done? Well, pet peeves include. I find it incredibly displeasing when I see someone lose their patients and become aggressive disrespectful and route don't listen to this podcast. One is your personal claim to fame. He says, well, it was a lifelong dream to play survivor and get my dad's the family visit and second chances is also honored to be a part of the prices, right? Survivor special with a my superfan friend latrine a-. Knows are pretty good claims to fame in Ron Clark have. Both are on the prices. Right. Yup. Kelly was there too. He doesn't mentioned candy crush Joe. Did you know that Joe and Kelly won candy crush together? I did not know that they want. I know that they were on they they had to work together to win on candy crush back in last summer. Number. That that show that he had one. Okay. Then Nicole, what survivor contestant are you most like, can you guess Ozzie? He says, no Kim Spradlin kind in poised, but a gamer and a player your yes, you have that show is he like him. I actually I met Joe with Kim alive. Majo- a couple of times. Maybe it really wasn't Kim. And it was it was did really seem to hit it off. When I when I was with Kim was hosting the millennials versus gen-x finale interviews with me. And so, and then we saw we grabbed we grab Joe it's on the best of the survivor thirty eight returnees clip. And and then they were just like talking like, hey, guys. I'm still here. You're so used to that though. What's the reason being on survivor? He says to win and to have Jeff say the magic words sole survivor and also to prove that anything is possible into never quit or give up on a dream. That's a good attitude. Who or what is your inspiration in life? And he says it is Sierra dawn Thomas. I've never been more inspired by such a hardworking beautiful and caring woman. She inspires me to be the best version of myself every single day boyfriend of the year. That's a good answer. He's got all the answers so far. But William all the answers when it comes when the bell rings on February. Twentieth for Joe lem. Okay. So nicole. Here's Joey amazing seems like a good spot for him. Yeah. He's got Gavin here who liked latrine ah is a superfan friend. So I feel like that this is a setup well here for Joe angle. Yeah. A lot of people are saying that the twist works really well in Joe's favor, if anybody's going to be able to go to the island of extinction and. Survive there for any number of days. It's going to be Joe. So sure I feel like that he set up well in the game and outside the game. He's got that in his back pocket. So we'll Joe make the jury, of course. Yes. He always makes the jerk. But then. If he does go to island of extinction will he do? Well, of course. Yes. He's Joey AMIS Joey mazing okay setup. Well, all right, Nicole. Let's talk about Kelly Wentworth. Okay. So you went Kelly went where three-time player Kelly Wentworth. She's back. Her hobbies include photography. He's very impressive on Instagram walking her dogs and witchcraft on the weekends. Oh boy. Yes. Think that's joke. Her pet peeves are unseasoned rice games involving balls and people who think that they are basically bad asses so bad. Yeah. She's not like that the type. Kelly went worth is funny. Yeah. What's your personal claim to fame? She's Wentworth does not count times nine. Times. The survivor reference. You wouldn't you wouldn't get it. Who is your inspiration in life? Anyone who wants -vivor on their first try? Oh, so I don't know that seems a little mean towards people who went on their second try. But what about their third try or fourth dry? I don't know. I don't know. She's trying to win on her third try. Yeah. Wish survivor tested at you. Most like Kelly one worth from survivor second chances. And I think she was also on survivor saying one del, sir. So that coming okay. What's your reason on being on survivor? I have one thing left to do in this game to win. Okay. Why do you think you'll win survivor or you'll survive for thirty days last time think I can handle one more day? All right. So here is Kelly Wentworth here. Now, the tricky thing for Kelly. I think he's going to be navigating this tribe. Will she work? And you know, let's let's let's bring in David Wright, also. And then let's talk about them as a pair. Because I think that for me, I think it's clear that Joe Aubrey will work together. I think that they're going to be able to mesh well, Kelly and David I ain't going to be he's going to turn on Joe though. But not for a long time. Yeah. Maybe down the road. But I think that the pre merged they're going to be fine. My question is going to be Kelly and David are that I think to me that's the question of the season for me. Yeah. Will Kelly Wentworth and David Wright will they work together. Or will? They be adversarial here in the in the early going or will say the war dog if he's coming for them if he's amount that insurrection will they be forced to work together. I'm fascinated by this question. I don't see that drama happening on the other Trump. I feel like that you've got like maybe David versus Kelly. But then also the new people versus the two of them. And will they be forced to work together in this uneasy truce try to make things up? What we we are making things up, but we're not randomly making it up. It's not brand steel kind of. Well, I feel like Kelly's bit more aggressive than David Wright. And I think under normal circumstances. I don't see them working together. But if you know things go down, they're going to be forced to know. Well, the problem they're similar players. They find they find idols are underdogs. They you know, I feel like I feel like Kelly went worth is really thirsty to win. Well, David rights. Not. I don't think it says obvious. Okay. Well, I don't know where you're getting that from because I feel like he he's he's kind of more mellow player. David Wright is like a mellow player. He's not like going crazy in the challenges. He's got a challenge bee's. Yeah. He's like low key strategy located. They've read is low key strategy. Yeah. Okay. What do I know? But everybody knows him. And they know they know he's just being him. He's the door yet. Okay. All right. So Nicole, David right here. He is he's back again. He likes three D printing. And making puzzles that is true. He likes to try to figure out how to live forever. He's afraid of dying. That's one of the top fears. They don't go to extinction island because you will die drei his pet. Peeves are sudden lab noises people who don't use the turn signal. He's a lot of pet peeves people who don't clean the lint trap. After using the dryer me metoo people who don't keep their dog on a leash. And the next surprise when he jumps on me people who believe in ghosts and psychics, Nicole not me and people who incorrectly. Use the word nonplussed. I gotta be honest that one through confuses me. Yeah. Don't tell Stephen fish back. But I feel like that nonplussed and plus. I do about which one the us. I feel like nonplussed means turned off like. When I first old Nicole or making him mad now because you're using it incorrectly. I'm not using it. I'm saying that I try to shy away from it. Because I feel like then and then people when I say a word wrong, then they really hammer me on Twitter. Yeah. They always hammer you into her. Well, it's getting rougher. It's getting rough out there. Okay. Nicole? What's your personal claim to fame? The right went thirty eight days thirty days survivor game. Who are what is your inspiration live Nichols? Not gonna like diverts, Mr. Spock. He's intelligent logical and has trouble fitting in David Wright. And I once podcast about it episode of Star Trek, Nicole, your points, just went down. Okay. Which survivor gets us. Are you most? Like I relate most to David Wright that bald nerd just needs a hug. Oh, okay. What's your reason for being on survivor? The first time I played got a lot of unexpected growth as person is my second chance and this time, I'm going to earn. When the title of sole survivor. All right. Three words to live by or describe you. He says OCD, nervous and paranoid. Yeah. Okay. All right. David Wright and Kelly Wentworth my question for you, Nicole. Yes. Okay. Will they be able to work together? If you put them if you were to put them in front of me and say KENNY'S guys work together on survivor to win. I'd say, no, no, yeah. Okay. Look at this picture, though. Kelly went worth to me was to be angling her head ever so slightly towards David Wright. I that's that's a positive sign. No armed across her arms across. So what? So what that's very clo- arms. Well, she's close to everybody in that means. Yeah, I feel like she's. She's I guess closer in this picture to David Wright, then to be Wendy. Not that close though. This is my prediction. I think that we first episode Kelly where it's like, I don't know if I could trust David Wright, I'm here. I don't know if I could trust the difference. Like, I don't know if I could trust Kelly, but then like here comes war dog and he's trying to get everybody. Like, hey, we got a vote out the returning players. That's it. And then they sort of are forced to work together like in. It's like a buddy cop movie where they don't trust each other. But they have to work together or the new players are going to get them. Yeah. It's like we need to blindside war Dogar. He's going to take us out or David Wright goes with more dog and says you right, but get Kelly out boy, that'd be a real twist. So I think this that the other tribe, I feel like it's Joe, and Aubrey, and they are they are like deciding who's going home voting out the people that are holding them back in the challenges this tribe. I feel like it's the new players verses David and Kelly augury, and Joe are going to be like the fun parents and David Wright and Kelly are going to be like the stickler parents NIA. I could see I could see it. So they're not going to be. They're not going to be as fun, and they're gonna they're going like shoot down the fun stuff. And then they're gonna give out. All right. So I'm hoping that they figure it out mom and dad get it together. Okay. But I feel like that. Then the question is going to be if David and Kelly get to the merge, are they? Well, are they going to work with Aubrey Joe? And that's the next question is going to be will before returning players work together. The rest of the tribes say, we got we got a break this up before the merge, right? And so we're going to have everybody is going to go after Joe at the merge because that's always happens. So you go after Joe he's too amazing. Catch him you send them to the edge of extinction island, and he becomes Tarzan. And then he hangs out there. So this is tricky. This is tricky how long before you think that Joey amazing mustache will grow into the rest of his face. I don't know. We'll grow into the must've. He'll grow a beard. We'll sort of connect height height. Some of it. Okay. Nicole is nonplussed by Jove angle facial hair. I really everybody knows. I love Rob's beard and mustache. But sometimes it just look silly. Okay. That but not mine, but not yours. Okay. All right. So yeah. David and Kelly. They're gonna make the jury because I said to many people from their tribe. It'll be interesting to see if they do a swap this season, though, the probably do a swap. But I don't know if they'll keep the returning players like could they swap and have all four the return players on one tribe that would be something. Well, I mean typically they swapped to three tribes at some point. So you could have one tribe that has. Two or three of the returning players. So it'll be interesting to see I'm really fascinated to see what the dynamics are going to be of the new players versus the returning players. And we've seen in the past where the return players just sort of walk all over the the first time players. I don't know if that's gonna be the case this season. Yeah. We'll see. All right, Nicole. It is time. Do you have a winner for this season? You don't. Okay. Well, this is the eighteenth time. We've done this podcast and eighteen times we are looking for a winner. I believe the Nicole stir was on was that a real hot streak? Nicole Saddam is has gotten ice cold has not gotten a winner. Right since cold. Jeremy Collins has not been ice cold. I came very close to seasons ago. How close I think. Dominic. Okay. Well, that was that was close. And you couldn't get closer. But that was not we don't count Clinton can't say I was hold. It was I didn't pick the first boot. Okay in terms. But there was a point when you were really hot. Hey, I. And so now, I think that you've gone from hot to acute in terms of picking the winners because yes, you just be talking about picking have picked four correct? But now four over eighteen is not as good as at one point. It was like four out of a Levin. So it's been it's been a cold snap for Nicole. It's been it's been bad. Yes. And so I myself that your yes, I myself have picked a number of winners over the years. Of course, who can forget the niece Stapley back in survivor. Philippines. Also picked Andy Herren to win big brother. John party to win big brother Canada to eat into to win big, brother. All right. So we both have picked our share of winners over the years. Yeah. So Nicole who is it going to be? I have it narrowed down to two two people need to narrow it down to one down to one person. Okay. Hard time with this cast like there's so many good characters. But the good characters don't always win right last season in the Cole went with hot cop, Dan. And that was a real loser. I went with Carl. The godfather that was my pick. I thought that he had a shot at that thing. If it wasn't for Christian Gabby flipping who knows what would have happened this. I almost had that one also. But you didn't. Okay. All right, Nicole. Are you ready to give us the winner the winner pick? Yes. So my winter paying hold on a setup. No, okay. Okay. So my two people that I have it narrowed down to come from the same tribe. Okay. And it's the fund drive fun. Trump. Is that Aubrey and using? Yes. And initially I was I wanted to pick Eric the firefighter. Like, those YouTube moms you spray them with his hose firehose. Yes. We'll be growth you're the only person talking right now. So he was the one I wanted to pick first. But then I was looking there hasn't been a female winner in a long time. So then I was like I like, Julie she's an elf. We haven't had an elf wind so. Else because she works with toys. She's a toymaker. She's a toymaker. Yes. So. But I think I'm going to go with my initial gut reaction to Eric Eric, Eric. All right. Nicole goes with survivor, Eric, okay? For me. This one I felt like for a long time. I felt like okay. This is what I'm doing as doing. And I'm not backing down from it. Nicole has said it's been a long time since I picked a winner of survivor, and that is true. It has been now going on thirteen seasons. Picked the winner of survivor since the great Denise Stapley. Brought it home for me back in survivor. Philippines. I am going to go with. Give me Mr. Joseph amazing, Joe Angouleme. I never said it was a female. You said your pick. You. You saying that you picked to? I don't know. Why would I? I don't know nothing about it being a female. Okay. Joe angle them as my winner pick. And so let me let me talk this through is. Okay. This is a lot of talk out there. Oh, this was all setup for Joe was all set up for Joe. And so I feel like okay happy isn't that picture me right now? Okay. Well, if that's true if Joe Joe's the odds on favourite going in if you're gonna do the odds. So gimme gimme the odds on favourite. Okay. And then just to just to make interesting. The everybody says oh robs pick can't win. So if you feel like, hey, this was all setup for Joe is all Joe's favor than all. Right equalizer. Okay. So you got your head. So either way you can look at it either way where Joe wins. Then I then I get a win here. Get the pad my stats. And then if Joe doesn't win then then people can't say like, oh, this was this was really wind up here for Joe. Yeah. Because a lot of people that criticism. So I had to go ahead to do it giving Joe Angouleme. My guy. All right. We'll see. Yeah. For joe. Yeah. Not that Joey Joey, Joey amazing. So there we go. This Joe angle will he be the next survivor winner. And if so. Technically, Josh lers pick as well. Yes. Yes. I'm gonna win. Okay. We'll see. So Eric is the pick for the what was it about Eric? I don't know. You know, I have no no method a reason for that high on him. When they go back and listen to that part of the podcast. Look, did you didn't say he would make the jury. Probably your methods. I don't have one. Okay. Let's go back, and we'll take a deep dive into what Nicole had to say about Eric. Okay. Nicole? This was a lot of fun to go through all of this here. Tonight. We go to bed. Yes. Yes. It's been a long night going through this. I appreciate his patients getting this out. I also wanna say quickly that these overcast previews, and I've had a lot of fun with you, take less pleasure in doing this. Then then I used to because I feel like that people's feelings do get hurt along the way people I know that the contestants listening or you're see things and then and then down the road. I end up hearing about it from people, and I just want to say that no matter what we think of somebody from their pre-game assessment. It really has no bearing on what it's going to be like when that bell rings on. On february. Twentieth. And really the greatest thing that you guys get to do when we say, no, this person will lose. And then you do. Well, we look stupid, and you have the last laugh, that's really what it comes down to. So hope the hope that this was all in fun. And and it's for the listeners and hopefully everybody had a nice time. And I really don't think Julie's health. Okay. All right. And yes, she doesn't mind that I that. I said, I wouldn't toys, but that's just me. Well, not everybody likes wouldn't toys. Not. Okay. And I think I'm allowed me. Opinion grown, man. Okay. All right. 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Ron Clark: The Survivor 38 Post Game Retrospective

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2:03:21 hr | 1 year ago

Ron Clark: The Survivor 38 Post Game Retrospective

"Real quick before we jump into this really fun interview with Ron Clark. I have to give a heads up. I've been doing this long enough to know for the three people that are not caught up on game of thrones. Ron Clark he's gonna make a metaphor which spoils season. Eight of game of thrones around one hour and ten minutes into this podcast and ends about one hour and fourteen minutes in, you have been warned winter is coming. Enjoy the show before we get to today's interview with Ron Clark, and one thing, a moment, and thank one of our sponsors. Those are friends over at DC universe. The first all DC platform for DC fans. You can watch read shop and even connect with other fans. DC universe is the home of DC original series like titans doom patrol swamp thing and coming soon. Harley Quinn, featuring Kaley quoque. Oh. Just off the big bang theory, thousands of new comics of just an added to their comic library, including more complete story lines and. 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Of course, I posted over this past weekend, if you missed it, my interview with Victoria, which was very fun as well. And of course, we've already spoken with Rick Devon's and winner of survivor edge of extinction. Chris Underwood that's all up on. Rob has a website at com or at rob has a website dot com slash I tunes. For our subscription feed on apple podcast, we are still working on tracking down some more of these interviews, hopefully over the next week. Or two. We will keep bringing you more interviews with the cast as we're able to book them, of course. Ron is coming up in just a second. I do not want to stop. Once we get started talking to Ron. So let me just thank one other sponsor here today. Those are our friends over at dole. I've been looking for more ways. He had vegetables into my diet. I know a lot of people make the green smoothies, but only putting vegetables into my smoothies can make them not taste great. That's why I love dole fruit and veggie blends, they've created amazing balanced recipes of frozen fruits and veggies. So I know I'll always get a delicious. Smoothie all the work of pairing great tasting fruits and veggies is done for me. I can blend great flavors like berries, and kale, or fruits and greens in with some almond milk. Then seconds later. I'm sipping on a tasty smoothie and getting essential nutrients in my diet. The best part is, I don't have to wash or prep anything. It's all ready to go. Like each beg was born to be blended with fruit picked at peak, ripeness. I know I'm going to get a delicious and satisfying smoothie every time sneaking more veggies to my day has never been easier or tastier dole. Fruit and veggie blends find them in your frozen. I'll are Iran. Very excited to bring our guest in today to talk through everything that was going on in his story in survivor, the edge of extinction, of course that he is the founder of the great Ron Clark academy. Please welcome the great Ron Clark. Ron. How're you doing? Awesome. Just feel honored and excited to be on the show. Thanks a lot. Rob. Yeah. I, I was really looking forward to this. I'm glad that we were able to work it out. I really enjoyed getting to watch you on the show, and I felt like that you had a lot of fun with the game. I think you enjoyed being a mischievous and. I always find that fun to watch yet told us up for winning the this will probably be the only time I play is such an honor to be able to play, but I'm going to go forward. I'm gonna play aggressive and I'm just going to do everything I can to really relish, the entire survivor experience. So I just tried to go for it in sometimes I was mischievous in sometimes I tried to have fun as nuns. I try to push myself hard. But I just wanted to make sure that I got the most out of the experience, could I, I would love to know where did survivor come into the picture for you, because you have everything going on with your, your kademi and your career. How did the idea to go on survivor even come into your mind? Sure. I was teaching Harlem in the year two thousand and I saw the preview for survivor, or Neo announced that. Wow. This looks really cool. And so I had this tiny little sixteen inch black and white TV in home from night at work. In a sit on my bed. Grading papers, not watched the show. And I just I loved it. I wanted to do it instantly. I just, just the intrigue, the dynamics drama as because I grew up watching guide light on them and out your acid, Omar God is is a chance for me to really relive my childhood in or on your one of the do it instantly. But I was busy teaching. And so during the summers, I was waiting tables, constantly just to make enough money to survive in, so I didn't have the ability to apply. And then after I was named the American teacher of the year than I was busy than I started to build a school. And then for years, it was like every month to try to keep the lights on school. I mean it was really hard building. And so it wasn't until the twelfth year of the school, being opened the founding bellred a place where I could take the time to do it inside us one online. One night knocked lied on a love survivor watch with my friends, we haven't missed an episode we all come together and we truly enjoyed joy. Join us like a a livestream to play. And it's not like I mean, I'm very content in my life, very happy. You know, I'm successful with with teaching my job. I didn't feel like I needed survivor to feel any void in terms of that type of thing that is needed survivor, because I just wanted it at is wanting to do it is just spent a live stream I know you're a big game fan. I I've seen your clip of you being on the prices, right as well where it was all was also very, very funny. Are you big game show guy? I'm just really not may come across that, but I just as a kid. My grandmother was up with her, and she would watch prices right every day. So I just watched it, and she always wanted to go on. But, you know, she never she never could, and then at she passed away, I said, I'm gonna go get on that prices, right? Want to get on this show on when you yacht, you'll see. And so I'd go with some friends, we make some silly shirts in we get in line and on the, there's a man who walked on the line talking each contestant, before you go into the show, and he says, what's your name where you're from when it got to me, like damage, Ron Clark? I must sixth grade teacher from Harlem, and he said, oh, Ron, Tim or about yourself is so he talks to me, like five minutes is about French like dude is totally gonna put you on cop on the state and it did. So I got caught up in winning the showcase showdown, and in the Shukla's showdown when they pull back carton. It was a yacht is all look to the lady, who was sobbing. My competitor, Oma gotta think on a winner seen this Primin until my desk when in the boat is, she just come at me. Like, what are you talking about? And then I'll one is one this boat. Saw call my dad after the show my dad I won the boat. Is you're right. You're right. It didn't blame me but so the only two TV shows of ever done like that were survivor and prices while that was twenty years ago. But. Anyway, have you had other premonitions. I have not I should have more primitive this. Yeah. I was just wondering if maybe that was, you know how you ended up on this. You know, wild ride in terms of your entire career if you're just like maybe it was a premonition told you, you go into Harlem nob- I follow him a hard a lot in needed. If you wanna do something, you got to do it. You only live once on the motto of Moscow is on. No fear dream big in until my kids every day. This is your life. You don't get another one. If something on a do make it happen. Don't waste time. And so I think when you live life that way you kind of make your own permissions. So when you first applied for survivor were they just over the moon that you were somebody who was potentially wanted to play. I don't think so because nothing when you have a little bit of notoriety, like in the education world, look at a little bit of well-known just in education. I don't know. I think it kind of gives him Paul's because I think survivors, really trying to uncast people who are relatable everyday equal in you kind of. Stand out a little bit in your field on. I think that gives them a second of all, so applied on. You know, went through the entire cast in process. I'm in LA for seven days is really is, is a rigorous Rupp experience, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. And I was actually Mike. The only person was cast was Natalie and on Natalie guys a rip. She broke line, at me, and on, like we were, we had to get hit his psychological tests, and we're sitting there take psychological tests and on psychologist. Okay. Everyone and meek may begin in three two and Natalie stands up and walks over to the off table. She's like a man what he doing. I'm getting some teeth and saw my Oman. And Sudan, we have to wait or initiatives Bank sits down, and where he goes in three to the Natalie, beginning goes to the tree table issues, getting skittles, and the ladies, like on excuse me. I'm waiting washes I almost still does so in my head on car studios. So when season thirty seven came on on. On EBay as Oma. God Lloyd skipper. So. Yeah. And so I do the whole thing for seven days in a in after that. I got a phone call that, you know, we don't know we don't know maybe not. And then I got a phone call to make it receives in thirty seven and on saw a thought that was it because I only had one window in my life when I could possibly have done it in closed. And so, then they called me stiffer season thirty eight you'd be an alternate. And I was, like, of course being alternate in the common for season thirty eight and said you didn't make it. And this is like a month while I was supposed to go and I was like, oh, my God knows devastated like a late Embiid for like twenty four hours like the weekend. I'll gutted. It was two a m like two and a half weeks before I loved, I got a text from Linz illness at you up, and I was like holy crap. Holy crap. Holy crap, and I'm like Jim Nutt down. It's like what is going on as like Lynch Vilma does text me? He's at you tell her that you don't ever want to see her talk. Because he was so upset. I've been told no and I called her if you want season, thirty eight you can do season thirty eight now's, like, yes, a running us great. The I would have thought that as soon as they, you reached out that it would have been a green light. And I'm surprised that you have to jump through so many hoops. Oh, yeah. I think lots of people wouldn't be on survivor. I think in, I mean. No. I mean it was it was very hard for me to get on. I mean, they have so many people to choose firm in I'm older. I'm not at the leading rate with my shirt. All this all these negatives. You know, I'm not. Where they won't survive. And then, like I said, with notoriety, probably gave them also under scraped for the day considered. Let me let me do it. Oh, it anti Sutton Lind said this. So funny, share I'm on the is two a m and she's like, do you want to do it? And I was like, well, you don't wanna do it yellow to us. I've got I gotta go to work tomorrow. And I've gotta make sure on. I gotta get schedule shut issue, so Iran. Look on even know why they chose you because you weren't even an alternate. I dunno. Jeff just called. So we must have on is. Is just quitting. Tell me, yes. Now on you get my life. Straight demar. How do you think you would have done if you were on survivor thirty seven because I have to think that you would be Goliath. Right. I think that you would probably have been there instead of my friend, Mike white. Yeah. I think I'd probably swapped out that place. I don't know if I made it to merge, I think I probably would have gotten along with Gabby will in nothing. I would really connected with them their humor on their intellect where they saw the game and played the game sue yet Davey. I mean, I would have definitely been drawn toward that energy. Why is out of probably been like wanted to pull my hair out with them? But I'm working with who's really I am a David. I grew up with nutter country. Muffin on the first person on family to go to college. I've never really didn't have any that type stuff growing up. We didn't have money. So I think I'll align myself more with those types of people. Okay. So let's talk about. About this season. And you know, we don't know a ton about the early as we know you love calm, but we don't know too much about what was going on there at the start of the game. And I love to hear about your journeys with, with the comet, tribe. You don't go to any tribal councils with them. But I think there's a lot that we still don't know about how things were working over there. Yeah. In, you know, when you see me on TV doing the karma dance, karma, karma, karma. It was part of my strategy. If you some free interviews while said, I wanna find a group of people wanna pull them together and make them feel tight and close in United. And I feel like if we close together, we're gonna win challenges going to be successful when positive energy on what I was trying to do. I don't want anyone to think that in my head, I'm like I really was the comic superhero in my head. I was told myself on E these people to be calm strong until their comma gone because. Make sure I'm wielding group of energy. And so what can I ask you a question about that? Because so I wanted to be completely prepared for talking to today. And I finally got to watch the, the Ron, Clark story, the movie, and, and when you go to the class that you, you tell the class, you know, we are family, and I was, I was thinking, you know, what sort of parallels were there for you in terms of what you did with the students with what you were doing with these other players that were in the game. And, and how is that different that relationship between your competitors and your students? Yeah. Mojo teaching philosophy is you weren't kissed. They are family were team. Let's work together. You uplift each other. If you uplift people around you. Yup. Look yourself you put around your down yourself down. So in my class is. The school, also his whole energy of us work together and be a team. So I did the same thing we have songs in my school. I did songs on the island. It was all about getting everyone to feel comfortable. The only difference is at my school. I'm trying to build bonds for life at Hama I was trying to build on for as long as needed bonds to be right for redefines. But I'm when I get there to comma the very first moment like Eric in Julie, and I end up at the watering hole, and we kind of forged this group where we were just really tied Eric Pohlmann to the side, and he's like, Harry like you a lot. He's like we're very different. I don't think people would assume we're working together. He said, why don't you and I work together a Sigalas be one too. But what we should do is, we should never interact with each other. So this Atlit we don't even really care that much because then people won't assume that we're working together in. So we got we got away without for a while. Ah told him benefit. I want you to get Gavin make Gavin feel like. We're going to be his one to make him Billick. He's in charge. I'm gonna go get Julia and make her feel like she's my one to she's in charge that way like in control of what's going on on. So he goes to Gavin on also hook line hook line, and sinker. I go to Julia in Julius like I don't know. I'm like, what because jewelry this instant bond site. Yeah. I'll work with you, but left be one two with you what, I didn't know is that she in gabbing at already had that conversation, just a few minutes where I got her, and so she'd already been got and so on, but yeah, but then we talked to Juliet the watering hole. And so we have formed this, this alliance and it was pretty obvious. That one thing that bonded us was common enemy. Our common enemy was the returnees. We all kind of there's no reason for RBM Joe to be around in this game long enough, because they do as soon as they get with David and Kelly gonna work together. They're going to they're gonna pick us all. They're going to have too much power in. So Aurora was all. Up their butts. She loved Joe in so late at her as well. And also roar we rub each other the wrong way, when thing you know about our relationship I love her. She's like a sister to me, we've bickered, and we fought all the time like you know, we got the croissants, we won the croissants, so we giving in and were sitting there and we each had two croissants, so each eight one of them in the we each had a spare croissant. And so I'm sitting there and I keep hearing Aurora say need to preserve these croissants. How can we preserve them? Unlike Eamonn later tonight, so we don't need to save for that long. Yeah. But I don't want something to happen to it. And we had this little on glass container. Attorney look, as she takes my croissant and she takes her fist, and she smashes Christoph, I'll went to the bottom of this glass jar, and I'm like. Question about croissant. Mush we can refer them long in the last thing. No, this issue Microsoft so we're like always bickering, but I love Aurora. So you're a croissant Nazi before the rice Nazi, I was Crisan. I was so upset this then we still Julia laugh at this all the time. It was quite a moment. I was really very upset with her about that Crisan. And when you haven't eaten for like, oh, I get it. Yes. Veivers take their food very seriously, every crumb. But Arora she was all up. Joe in aubrey's, you know business. That she was on the outs and so on. And we knew that if anything happened if we did lose immunity on that it would have probably been Aurora to go. Or maybe all Brey. Or, or maybe Joe we weren't even sure that point. But we knew that we were rock solid, but the funniest thing is that I was also playing Joe, an auguring Aurora. A told them out in their alliance said, I'm working with y'all. I said, I feel real comfortable because the others there over the watering hole talkin an athlete, they're a group. So Joe, this is Joe strategy. His hey, Ron got a plan. We've talked about this. We're going to tell everybody that we're you up tonight, and on, and then will will throw your name out there. But we really won't let you out unlike what as. I'll recite bad idea. Joe, don't say that was like notes, or the this was a hall or but why would you do that? The reasoning said is because I have been bitten by spider that day thrown up all over can't I was really sick. Oh, no. Yet, if you saw me when I dug up the, the advantage at the watering hole yet, just thrown up everywhere, like it was disgusting. I was so sick in Joe bless heart. Such a great guys. Taking care of me rubbing my back and I'm young with our lever me, and then everybody sightless give does have some Thomas. When walk and catch my breath. They said, we understand as soon as they turn their heads are ran off down the Pat, on the Pat. I didn't even know where tree mill was because we hadn't even found a yet, I'm running running like some crazy on digging it up. So when you see me on TV fall over from exhaustion from literally like passing outside just thrown up not into spider, but on is bad stuff. And that was all on the first day, the first day for Slough. Oh, wow. Very eventful first day to be bit by a spider. Yeah. And I told said told us of us can be aggressive in that Earth Day, it was like every moment, like it's happening. It's happening is so funny because it's fourteen days into survivor in Julia in are in the water and a roar comes over to us. And goes hey y'all I'm thinking you know, somebody might new start talking strategy around here. So my new start talking alliances, after she walked up, we'd his died laughing because, you know, we have been doing it since the first moment, we got on the island, the advantage, menu that you found that you had to use it within the first three tribal councils for it to be a useful. Were there any plans that you had about potentially trying with somebody to use it when it was really active? Yeah. So I loved having it now saying finding that on day one I wasn't going to get off that boat. I told myself I know there's an advantage for on this boat eyeing jumping off find it and so. Everyone is like being such good people. They're like getting goods and they're thrown them off the boat and they're trying to swim. They're trying to the Airbus being so good. Except for David Kelly and myself we when nothing that you could seek data would pick up a thing of bananas and sit right back down is that he's just looking for clue. And so we're all looking frantically, and then I realized something at the front of the boat. There's probably like ten thousand cameras, and then I'm thinking, well, they really probably want to capture this moment of somebody finding this clue. So they would probably put the clues somewhere near all those ten thousand cameras, and on exaggerate Michigan is the tonic yet. Good thanking her a run all the way to the front of the boat thinking it's going to be somewhere all these cameras are pointing and so I see, like tin cameras pointed at one spot. Unlike probably in this direction is I look, and then there it is it says secretive vanish off freak out, and, like, oh my God, I found him. A harsh is being a life's dream define a boat. I remember Sierra when she found hers is, like pottage that moment is so on. My thoughts of what to do with it. You know, I it gave me on inspiration to play aggressive because I knew if I make a mistake, I've got a backup plan. I could save myself if I do something I shouldn't, or balanced somebody's toes. But I'm also thought about maybe stealing a a reward an award began because, you know, I could do that to help my tribe. But then when you look how pitiful less who was really beautiful. I mean they screamed at each other. I mean like really hateful like bad. Bad bet energy man, say, the opposite of comma, like they're really dislike so negative, like worse than we saw on the show yet. They edited it. I mean it was like Lauren is Justice richer, like, like all, like, what are you doing types creature is really bad, the disband energy? So when I see them when their chickens, I've got disadvantage in my pocket on like I could still those chickens. What a great moment, if be exciting. We get the chickens Tom be so excited. But when I looked at less house like those people would hate me, too. Point where I they would never talk to me, and I don't know if I want to do that. And then I've told no one on commerce got this advantage. So they're going to alike. All we thought Rama's with us that he had this secret didn't even tell us about it. So on yet decided not to use it. When I spoke with Victoria, we were talking about the moment where you and she are at the water and event, Joe is behind her. When when she was talking did, did you see Joe was it with or anything where you're trying to give her a hint of? Hey Joe is right behind you on. No. I was I saw Joe on and this has made me stomach a horrible person, but I was trying to even though it's work Victoria throw hundred. The bus little bit Ramaz trying to guide her to say thanks, she shouldn't have said about Joe. Because if you're a member on Joe thought I was working with him in green Aurora. Saw thought, oh if I can you put the Torey talking about about Joe target on her bag because even though us working with her as. Part of the common, sticks are never trusted Victoria. Victoria's. Very smart, and she's very conniving in from day one. Like I, I just never trusted her like lies roll off of her tongue like Honey and hall. And I even told her I said at is don't trust you Victoria. She lied understand because. Yet. But so I was kinda thrown under the bus in that moment. Okay. Okay. The interesting it, you're saying, so you guys are eventually going to swap anything else that, you know that we, we should know or any other fun stories from the original, comma. Yeah. Lots of stuff. But one thing I will say when you did your off cast with Victoria, she said that I have been making final three plants with everybody with her in Lawrence. I never made a final three plan with Victoria Ono. What she's thinking there because Victoria, she knew I was very vocal about not trusting her and on a never made a final through with Lauren. I mean Lauren and I would just to totally different types of eighth win two very different on Lices in our lives. And so I just I never made a final three with Lauren on what that was about. But on. No. But comma, it was if you hear all this, scattered in the background it is my to Chow child dogs. They are running all over the house. Okay. You hear the come again. They're the okay, what are their names? One is Westbrook. After Russell Westbrook. My favorite NBA player one is Hamilton after the musical Hamilton. Okay. They have their own Instagram pages at Hamilton Westbrook in. They are air amazing. Hey hamilton. He's on. He's is on the table now. But it could also take off the there. You got some cooler on. Yeah. Comma was great. It was wonderful. My one. True alliance always with was Eric a loved Eric s still do to this day that is my buddy. We connected, he's like he sought of the earth like he's he's he should've won. He shouldn't survivor. He's a hero. I mean that would have been if he had one, because he just such a great guy in arm is better than all of us together in when, when he was out at this destroyed me. But on one thing that you didn't see from, comma, is how close Erica were, it is generally showed that a whole lot also. They didn't show that every night at comma, we had Olympics, I would do like coconut Olympics, and we will do family feud, and we had gained night, every night was a lot of fun exciting. You didn't see that. Julia every day would go hunting for crabs with for our trying to catch crabs. Listen, I don't even like seafood. Sucking to meet out crap leg, because I'm like you'll eat. We need to point. And with three small crafts would be so excited. Oh, one thing you didn't see one time on and Juliana decided we were gonna go fishing, and you might think, hey, you got a spear go catch fish what you don't realize that the water is so rough out there than rose you up against the coral and is very dangerous and on their sharks out there. And so I like real sharks and it's like, oh my gosh. And then those like even smaller ones, like in the shallow areas, so it's like it's not like, oh, the Minnesota fish one day Juliana say we're going to do it. So we go out there and we're sending on the edge of the choral repertoire, it drops off, like a forty foot drop, and I'll turn and look, I hear her scream, Julie goes straight down, and she disappears. I'm like, oh Mugabe. And so she pops up. She had fallen down in the fire coral issue like a hundred pieces of fire coral in her right leg on her hip, when all the way down and blood was all in the. Water like puddle of blue lottery. Under, like, oh my gosh, let's see surely be more careful. And then as soon as I said that I went straight down to into I got all cut up. I only have like ten cuts of shit a hundred cuts like the doctor had to come into pick the core. Core out of her leg, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. Julie's go on home. There's no way. She's gonna live through this in Julie psych, our efficient. Unlike Julie, your legs like I'm trying to find a puddle of blood around new socks are gonna come. She. Okay. Maybe we'll go back, but Julia really tough cookies. So on that part really is shown on TV, but on it was a major thing at comma, that day on. But you but comma it was really beautiful. We had a lot of fun. Lot of love. It was a really beautiful experience before the merge. Can you tell me a little bit more about family feud? How did that work? Yes. So what I would do is our come up with on the questions in. So I would divide comma up into two groups, and then when we merge, outdo, adminis- will. And so we'd have to. Teams and outcome up with questions like we surveyed we surveyed Ron one hundred times and asked him what was the favorite in the nineteen eighties? And then I would have like a lot sort TV shows in that to eighty per hour right down in the sand because it didn't have been some paper and then they will give answers than out assigned point values for the answers. Depend on what Ron thought people would say an arm. And so we would just play for hours than we did the Olympics. Like what was the number one answer? I think it was the kospi show from the nineteen eighties. I can't remember. Yeah. That was right. That was rocket love it. So, yeah, so but we would have a lot of fun. I was always trying to keep morale up do games 'cause that'd be honest with you. I wasn't the one cooking the rice and getting all the fire would like I wasn't doing that. And so at nighttime, I would make sure I had gained night, ready. So we can have a fun. Tom as a tribe. Okay. So big changes coming to comma, that you're gonna lose some people, it's going to be the same the same group. But the with less. Yeah. What you saw when I was on Kama told Julia to go through Joe's bag and right. The swamp you saw his Joe's talking to me some face. I'm like, yeah. I'm not I'm not really with this year, Ma goal was to get out the returnees because I saw them as great threat. And so then as soon as we get to emerge, I'm watching Joe very carefully because that asked Joel at Joe on Kelly you own, you know, her outside of the gain is a non nor man dude no dislike from the game. Barely talk, her don't even really know. But I remembered seeing them on a game show together like candy crush in. So I was like, okay so he's not going to mention that to me. And so, I was like, well, I'll just watch them closely. And as soon as we get to the merge, yet, he is spending the whole day pain in the flag. But on he did walk away for one time when he walked away, he goes to the watering hole, and he's talking to the likes of the war dog, and some others, and they hatched a plan to have a power alliance. So an Eric was in that conversation as well. So, of course, Eric runs back to me and tells me about this conversation and so I go to Joe and unlike Joe, hey, buddy is at hey birdie, in, in the have you honked, anybody about strategy what's going on? But he's at Nob buddy. I haven't talked anybody you taught him by bud as know I haven't he's like non man, as I will what should we as plain dumb? Like what should I do? Joe? What do we do from? He said, why don't you go off in what you see what her best doing want, you try and make your move once you make your own move. And I was like, okay, so I walked away and us, I man. I should told me that they tried to have me in this, this power alliance on later. The war Dahm told me that Joe really wasn't feeling the power lions. But I just wish Joe had been on fourth right with me and to know that he was spending time with Kelly with David at I felt like he, he might lip on us on. And I said, if Joe's smart, he's gonna realize he's on the outside. This common group is probably gonna look at the side, and I wanted to get him out before he had a chance to get one of us out, because if he did turn to get one of us out a new, Eric, or our would be the one to go. It was a really shown as much on TV that Erica. Now we're kind of the leaders of that group and on, we would have been the biggest targets. Let me just back up a little bit Bo for you guys. Get to the merge, and there it seems like that you guys go back and forth. And sometimes, you know that just it's good for confessional, as opposed to, you know what's, what's really going on. But it seems like that you are reversing course a little bit of, like, hey, I. I like eating I like winning. Maybe maybe we shouldn't vote out Joe before we get to the merge. Was that a real consideration? If you guys would've lost a challenge, pre-marriage after the swamp when, when we were still one group, it was Eric in all of us together, there's a real likelihood that we would have voted out Joe once they're only five of us, and it was a Rura, who was manures and jewelry who are also dearly, but she was also, you know, she's very paranoid. And then Julia who adore with a heart in, then his Joe and that moment, I wouldn't have voted Joe out because I was like this, this'll be stupid. So when you look at the confessional, worm, San I'm never vote, Joe on a minute, because of that moment, there's no way, I would have voted him out with their only five of us because it wouldn't have been smarter. Do sub causing him to win challenges that point. And also what you didn't see. Is that it rained so much? It's like fifty eight fifty eight degrees raining. At night were so cold in on. I was miserable in Joe's like a magician. He's good at everything on earth. He's like, not human. And he's noted ours like in Bod seconds. There's a fire, and he's built lean-to's, and he built a fire inside of our shelter so that we could all be warm at night, and it was truly incredible. Oh, funny story. So before I go on survivor, Lloyd goes, Rhonda, what you cuddling when any of those men, you know, on survivor on TV apply. But what Josiah cannot cuddle Joe? And he says if Josiah you can cuddle Joe. So then one Night, Live better bet fan move. Ballot is freezing when ni-nice so coda raw Chevron in Jogos Iran to over here. And cuddle me, and I said, well, okay, I had permission Saad cuddle Joe one night, but anyway arm. Yes. Oh, when I said, I wouldn't vote him out, I've minute, because in that moment I, I wouldn't have done it because he was. Provider. He was the strength needed for that smaller tribe. But once we merged was a totally different story. And I think it was okay because I think that a Joe had told Sierra that. Well, she said, no coddling and he said, well, what if Ron Clark is there? So we have permission, what are the chances? What are the chances? All right. So when you guys get to the merge, of course, there's the edge of extinction and Rick Devon's comes back into the game somebody who who you hadn't met. But when I spoke to Rick that he told me a story about how that you were concerned that, that potentially he might know who you were did you know, about his profession, and where he was from at that point yet, because we had heard from others. What he did where he was firming that he was a, a newscaster in Georgia. So I was freaking out. So when you look at the, the merge when the five of them are competing to see who get back in the game MMA heart is beating so fast. Unlike anyone can anyone but him because I'd already made it Amman until no one. What are good a just a schoolteacher, you know, just nothing else other than that I thought it was better for my game. And I was like he's gonna come up and say, oh, my God where you're on the news in Georgia. Often plus here we do different things, Sherry holes in some thinking holy crap. Anybody win him anybody with it? And so the second he wins. I'm like, I'm going home next because he's going to tell you about in their Sam a liar Nisa bet he walks over to all of us nearby saying, congratulations. And he was into the side in. He goes, Ron, I've heard a lot about you. And unlike crap he abound. Coming. He's like, in his also workable stuff, and I'm like, oh, okay. So then you know, we can't speak because we're on a silent we get back, so for the next hour and a half under sitting there like miserable saying, no gone go to him in beg. Do. And so then he comes up to me that yeah. Her a lot of things at you from all break. And I'm like, old really is it? Yeah. Augured. All she did was talk about invitation. How grave a guy you are unlike owes at all you heard he say, yeah. What do you mean us? Okay. I said, oh my goodness. I was freaked out as really scary. How did people find out about your career after the games? Did you tell people at ponder Rosa or after you guys got home yet? Once I got to the edge of extinction. Yeah. Yeah. On edge of extinction in like is, is miserable. Like, I don't some people will come until you, it was all roses in self self awareness in all the personal growth. I didn't get it out there for four days, five nights days. Not now I hated it. It was the most miserable experience ever initials. And so, but Raymond I got along really well, and so we bonded quickly is always cuddled up with rain like date to or. Three were just like laying there in the saying nothing to do. And she goes, tell me about yourself and NSA alums, which I said, no, I to know at all do do. I got time give it come on. Tell me on each has what's the deeds? Good deeper, dude. What's the deeds? And so I tell her the whole story 'cause she kept going deeper nose really had saw told her everything in Ringo's, everybody curvy, dude. Or everybody. And I'm like or is fine. And at that point. It's fine. Yeah. Something in his fine, because I'm thinking, I'm probably not getting back in the game. Because look, who the competition is around here. Sounds like it really matter owing us. It gets okay. Yeah. Okay. Any interesting responses from the edge of extinction crew. It's funny. Like of had some little on dance videos that we've done at the school, go viral and. Yeah Julia's like, oh my God. Is instantly. She recognizes the videos, and who I am. So Julia was the one who was like, I'm no you are, as she started freaking out, and there's this video of this kid at Musco Jacob. We surprised the kids, tell them see the Black Panther. I mean. Emily. We did Jacobs on the desk and his dance filmed it and it's got like eighty million hits is ridiculous. And she said, I love that video, I said, I film that video like you're kidding me. So we had a connection with Juliana from day one. We were bonded Mt. Still to this day. She just came to our musical couple of weeks ago at our school. It doesn't he's a great person. Okay. So let's go back to the game at the merge. And you talked about that conversation that you had a with Joe. And at that point, the commas are going to vote for Kelly went worth how much convincing did it take to get that vote from Kelley onto Joe own? It didn't take a whole lot because I went to Eric Eric had been like, thirsty to get Joe out from day one to Eric was like Ron. I don't know if it's the right time on. But if you if you feel strongly we can do it. I'm like, I feel strongly laughing Nelson comet is just have a feeling. And then I'd go to Julia is like, I don't know if it's the. Right time. But like went one at a time, a good, Julie. Julia at his lover so much is that Rahm, whatever you wanna do down somebody. Okay. So then we had to convince Victoria amo- is weary of or because, you know she's just Niki, but on. So it was a little bit of work. It probably took a couple of hours of convincing people was the right move to make on also, you know, a lot of people are gonna say it was a bad move. And you know, it was too soon, and on, I guess, but it's kind of like you don't wanna be the one who didn't take the personnel when you could have done it. And you don't wanna be the one who took somebody out before they flipped and of the everyone of the com- alliance, he was the most likely to flip to the other side. And so I thought he was a cable. We used surprised at how dysfunctional the lesser group was where you guys are, you know, to this point very much calmer strong, even though you wanna take out Joe. But for the rest of the tribe, you guys are a pretty cohesive, where there's these factions on the less suicide can under still, you rob, that, honestly, I thought it was a show. Yeah. Luncheon was so horrific they were thought they were acting. I said, oh, the it can't bad. They're trying to throw us off, like they would get in fights that were not shown on TV. They will get in the most Arctic lights Yellen. Each other saying, like horrific things like I've never said that anybody ally based on their back near the these people were just add it and I was like it's acting right? And also I can't trust them because I think they're acting in the coming up down. There was all real. They were like really, really dysfunctional worse than you probably realize. I won't ask you to repeat what was said. But could you tell us like who would fight with who? There's one time that, that Rick is fighting with the war dog in the woods, and they're screaming at each other. So loud, Rick is screaming yelling afterward so loud that we heard all over candy on the beach and understand. That's fake. It's fake. But later on. Nope. It was real. And then rig a told him a plan of the seed said rig, I said, you know, we're not gonna let you out tonight because on Lawrence, as she wanted to send you right back to that. If it's danger where you belong and saw planet at sea. It really upset him. So he goes to the fire, and he's like going off on her, and they're, they're fussing. So it was constant. But did you really say that she implied it rob was employed? It was implied. Yeah. Is you gotta? Sometimes you gotta stoke the fire. Yeah, I got it. And then Kelly in the war dog on a fight one time about Kelly's allegiance to David, whether or not, she had elitist him or whether or not she did. And. The fight was so bad that I had to put my hand on the war dogs arm and say, please, stop, please stop. It was so it isn't bad stuff. Just a lot of bad energy. A lot of really really deep seated. Feelings of anger. Of course. Now, everybody's over it. But at the moment, it was serious, stuff sure shirt. So did that. And I know it wasn't like a trick or anything like that. But the way that they were fighting with each other did was that more evidence of like, no, we should go for Joe here because these people are at each other's throats. Yeah. Because I was like, but still, I don't know. I don't know if I can say that it was because I thought they were faking these people what in the world, but another reason to go for Joe is because Rick and David really wanted to work with Julian me and they were very, very loyal to us in very very much. Like would do whatever you tell us, I think that was probably why gave me the impetus to go ahead and get out job because I thought I do have an asymmetrical ASEM a-hole. If something does go wrong with the rest of comma but on. Yeah, so hindsight, I don't know if I would take out job, I think sixty percent of me still flows confident. It was the right move to make on. Yeah. If I did it again. I would have found a way to include a Rura 'cause it was a rose on hurt feelings that I think, led to the air on vote on the next time yet at the time I said that an Stephen and I were talking about this on the. Podcast of that. I liked it because I felt like that it really was more gas on the fire in terms of like getting less sue of that. You had they were all they all voted for each other. And you guys took out Joe which you wanted to get rid of, in the first place. So I in the I guess that I thought it was a good move to make. And you guys don't realize that Kelly has an idle at that point, also, which she would have gone home with if it was Kelly the vote, but either way we go. We go to Eric and it seems like that the Joe vote, maybe didn't sit great with, with Julia, and, and with Gavin potentially, and they are ripe for when war dog is going to plant some seeds about how it's David and Devon's or part of your and Eric's plans. Yeah. And I remember the moment very well in on. Honestly Juliana had been having some conversation with Devon's in Rick some some side conversations. But seriously, everybody's having his little side conversations than I was going to become a strong. I wanted to work with the seven of us. Not wanted to make it to the final seven. I had no plans flipping hours. Quite continuous stand with the final seven. You love to strong. Yeah. Love comma, realistically, I knew it's not gonna happen, so you have something on my back Arken case after flip, and I'd rather David and Devon's fill like they should on. They have Julie Amita worked with into work with someone else. But we're all on the beach in their seven of us together in on Eric brings up. You know, the loved one visit in place out, his tell you everybody's talking about level and visit as you down, everybody rebel, oh can whip love when visit who's, who's your loved ones coming. And so when you show Eric saying y'all we can just make sick to make love with visit, that's type thing to loss of people say it just was like made like. Eric was the one that was harping on in the Dow was harping on it. We were saying no more than anyone else. But we were in that group on the beach. They asked us he said, who do you wanna vote next? And believe it was Victoria said what he'll think about David, and I was like I don't really care in Eric's, like, well, why don't we want we what might be Kelly? Maybe someone else. And that is, what really on made them to decide to finally do Eric because they had a feeling that Julie Eric and I were working with Rick end on David, which we weren't a Juliana had had a conversation with them, but not anything that was anything serious. But that was the thing that made him sad about Eric in it broke Mahar. It's at that, that night when they said, his name, I was just so devastated. I couldn't believe it potentially if Eric would have given. Julia different answer when Juliet talks to him and says, like, hey, what about after more talks to her? Hey, what, what if we went out David instead of Kelly, and he's like, no, let's just. The stick with the plan. He he just preferred Kelly it wasn't that he was motivated to, you know, have this back this backup plan with David Wright, and Devon's. Yeah. I think he thought Kelly was dangerous. And honestly, in that moment, if Eric says shortlists out, David, I feel like David is the one that we were that night but I feel like the Fisher might thing and it changes it changes the whole trajectory of a game. It would have backfired the because Devon's probably would have played the idol or David, there's so many things that could have happened. It could have been more dangerous than I could have gone him sooner or on anyway, if we had done Kelly shoot up, led her idol. I mean, so you never really know in hindsight. What would have happened if you did things differently? Okay. But Eric gets gets voted out and it on the show. You. You are, you know, obviously very upset that not only your friend is gone. But now for the first time you something happened that you didn't know it was going to happen. And I didn't I I like having control in, when I don't have control. I kind of freak out a little bit. And so I'm gonna kinda kinda watch myself because in the game win on things are going. Great attend to get too confident in. It's like an honestly like we're not see myself on TV say things like I'm the up at master. I told Lloyd said Loyd, I didn't say that. I all stood and rewound it to watch it again, to see if they'd put words Romero as Nagas. I really did say it, but I don't remember saying that as like when you don't have through deed and ho- your friends, and family or anything to drink in. I think I was just I was living off of power or something innings, but on a hated that I looked looked quite so crazy like that. But anyway, so I don't think you looked crazy. I get it. You know if the survivor. Can be very fun, especially when it's going your way that it's like you re you can feel like boy, I'm controlling everything that's going on. And it's like you, are you think you're doing better than you're doing when things are going good. And you're, you know you think you're doing worse than you're doing when things are going bad. Anybody was built survivor could give some advice about when you get to a point where you're so confident, whenever you get so confident that everything's great. It's not great and you're gonna go next. And then, then when I would get to a point where I was on the bottom, like after Eric, I was like, okay, I'm on the bottom bottom, and I'm going home next. When you get to that point, you feel so low, that is just horrible. And then you get paranoid. And so on. When I go back to camp that night, I'm upset, I'm furious amend with Devon's because I thought Devon's I just saved him the previous vote vote, not Joe instead of him feel like he owed me something I go up like Devon's. How could you not tell me? He's like, how did no I don't believe you? He's like you really want to burn this bridge right now. Apart. He's yelling at me and ereck in here. And I'm like I really don't want to burn this bridge right now. And so, then I go and I get on Gavin. If you saw said, the happy with yourself, are you happy to yourself right now up on myself talking to him? Let when my fifth graders and on, who was in the principal's office and our and so then I realized Ron, you can't go around and scold people in the you do you're going home next. And so I had to lick my wounds started telling people oh, it's okay understand great mood. Great moon grape rate blindside on the inside Mahar was breaking distinctive about Eric on the edge of extinction, and such guy. And so, what really did it for me and sent me over the edge though, is that we were talking the next day with comma? And a said, could you just tell me am I going home tonight y'all you've oatmeal tonight and Julia goes wrong would not vote you out tonight and Julie's Oz. Raised is raised. And she said, we're not voting you out tonight and said, Julian Nagano. Talk. She's like did you hear them yet? They did not vote me out tonight. It was obviously meant tonight in our promise more than tonight that were on the bottom. And so it was at that point, that we realized might not go out tonight. But we're on the bottom, and that's what I was paranoid about. I thought it was that night, I just knew I was out of power. Right. And you talk about at this point, where hey, I I'm, I'm going to be a passenger now I'm not I'm not a pilot anymore, at least not for a voter to leeann Toma say, y'all do whatever you want to just tell me honestly, I don't want to be in control anymore. I was playing the puppy dog trying to show them that I wish this week in humble in this willing to do whatever they wanted, which is not my light Hamilton exact that. But I'm not I'm not that type of person but I had to play knee in com- in arm a trying to get that to work in Juliana. We we're very connected in, so we talked, not try to as Julian, she cried, I cried, and I was like, Julia, tell me what's going on here. Among going home to the she's like, no, you're not so that the toria in her podcast, she mentioned how she was gonna vote out Kelly that night. She didn't want Kelly, thank. She was going on. That night. So in order to fix that she spent the whole day with her, and the day before the whole day with her, and like up Kelly's energy. And so for me looking over there, I see Julian Victorian. Aw, them hanging out with Kelly Alday joked with them joke with them. I'll pull them over for thirty seconds and they'll be like no Gilbert, good. We're good. And they'd go to Kelly sauce. I, I didn't feel very confident Julian booger across a thought that they didn't play us. Well, the other members of comma because they made Juliana feel like we're very much on the outs here. Yeah. There was too much going on. And then there's also that the David endeavors group that nobody was making you, you and Julie were talking with David and Devon's, but nobody from the left sue group and the lesser group thinks that their voting out David that night. And so they're not doing anything to make David and Devon's feel good. So we go to the tribal council, and you and Julie are feeling. Like you guys around the outs and then also David and Devon's are feeling like they're on the outs and we have like this very combustible mixture, which is about to ignite it this trough accountable. It was drama like Julie was just like she was ethic paranoid, because she knew not only she knew she wasn't run. But she thought I was or the if I didn't go home that night, I was going home soon. She saw Julia in Victoria them hanging out with Kelly. It looked very much like on that we were on the outs and Julie's, biggest fear was being voted out her second biggest fears may be voted out because every morning every afternoon every evening, I would hold Julie's hand. I would talk with her, like I was Horrocks in she, she didn't want me to be going in. So we're sitting there when all the dramas going on. It's when Aurora starts saying things like well, why don't you do something? Why don't you do something Julius? Like you're just a passenger your essence. And it just it was, that's when Rick was like welded. Let's do something together. Once that conversation started the war dog hit kept glancing at me. He was sitting right beside me. We kept going back and forth reach other to this point with really hadn't spoken, the Wardell comes up to me day, one of mergers, like, hey, can talk to you a Mike Noma husband lives in New York as I only visit with ought to you, then. Yeah. Are shot him down because I was like, I don't want anybody to see me talk with him. I don't want to give an opportunity to get in my ear on a hill plant seeds of discontent. And so I just I Nord him so we hadn't even had a conversation is over sitting there that tribal and his looked me in the eyes in, in our like looking at him back only under my breath. I said, what do you want to do? And he said, let's roll, and then on he leaned over to Julie. He's a jewelry. We have a home for you. And then it was shortly after that Julie said, I'm jumping ship. And then that's when it all started. A lot of ideas are coming up in this different of from different people in this tribal council. Is there any other plan that almost happened? Yeah, I really wanted Victoria, out, Oman, Gad, as I will get her out so bad. So I'm sitting there and she comes over to me and gets my face you like run. You can't do this. You can't do this and don't tell me what I can do. I mean. I don't even trust her. She's wearing a winter hat on a tropical island. I don't just. Why you couldn't trust her. The main reason I couldn't trust her and saw look better, and I'm like, well, while by Victoria lets her out and she was like, what is she started freaking out? But I was like, yeah, let's do it. But I'm in the moment, I was honestly torn because love Julia didn't wanna you know, outside among gotta she is being honest with me. I don't want to see something negative happen here on the other hand, she did say you're not going home tonight and I feel uncomfortable. And so on. That's why when Julie wore dogs is Julie unit name, and whoever you say that person's going home tonight will make it happen. And she goes Joola Julia, nothing. She just throwing a name out and so on. That's when I look at Juliet, nomadic Julia get over here. They're saying your name over right now. Convicts this and Julia. Kind of throws her hands in the air, like what this is so ridiculous. What's done is done on, like Julia fight. Come on. Come on. And on at that point is kind of like it was kind of done on, once once Julie said her. Name were dog was lightness. It Davis like sounds good to me. Everyone's like, okay, okay. Everyone jumped on it really quickly. They were happy to see comet implode. Yeah. In just went down like that. It still blows my mind of how we went from that scenario to the new alliance is the less sue three gabbing you, and Julie somehow that's, that's the new six coming out of that tribal council, the reason for that is because Jeff goes all right got time to vote. And I said, John, and he's like, yes, as like cannot, please have a moment I need to talk. Somebody is like all the time you need about this time. I felt like we have been there for Jen hours on how long that tribal was my goodness. The moon had moved halfway around the planet. And so. Haven't come with me, so Gavin. Gets up in out. We go. We stand behind everybody in like Gavin. If Julian flipped them, I said, I need one more comma, with us, will you come with us, if lifted them, and he said, yes, under his brand roles US like that because they don't want anybody seeing him sunny has Gavin. He says, kind of like he's just trying to dodge a bullet. And so I'm like, all right. So as soon as we get back to camp, we go back and sit down to vote. And I look at war doll, and I'm like we all need to meet. And we're gong says as soon as we get a camp, you get Julie and meet me on the beach, and I'll get killing Lawrence at bringing Gavin guy is going to be with us. He said, sounds good to me. So since we give out a camp, six of us are smoke. We, we got onto the beach in the six of us me and we had to our alliance and we had Sean new plan. Yeah. That was just such a blindside as viewer to go from where we were at that trouble council to then we're voting off, David of the next trial council yet. Because once the six of us got together, we said, okay who wanna put off next on there were lots of different things every day in probably every hour. Julie said, let's fight off a raw like she wanted Aurora or back like every moment in stand. They didn't get along. They fall all the time. You didn't see. Why do they fight? Yes, they're like, because ROY assists things like I hate soccer moms, and they just they're all in water. They don't get along with the complete opposites and Aurora is a very strong personality. Accused saw her. She was telling me, I couldn't dip put two things of rice in there. She's like no. And I'm like you're not the rice Nasi, but Aurora she calls me a drama clean, but she's like she's like a very authoritative strong personality. Julie's, a forty eight year old mom, she doesn't need somebody telling her what to what he ended. So it just it caused lots of friction all the time. So anyway, so once we get back, we try to figure out who issue, but off next and we decided David doesn't win a'munity. We should probably, but off David because he was the he's working the hardest, he's hurting crafts is making the fire is getting the firewood and any talking to everybody in hushed tones. He's pulling her back to the sad cannot talk to for Mimika talk you for minute. David is so. Strong. And so I didn't even have a mobile where I'm like, gosh. Maybe I should flip in work with David in Devon's take Julie with me. And maybe I could pull in Victoria, and maybe I should flip again. And so I go to David and David's like Ron Yuna should talk. We should talk and try to build trust. I'm might yeah. I agree. I said, I would I would like for us to sit down and have a long conversation David, because I think there could be something here. If I can find a way to trust us right now. I have no trust in. You also ever, so we have a long conversation. In David goes I won't take that long when you do it real quick of the watering hole. And at that moment, he sold his fate because I was genuinely ready to say, I think maybe I flip a don't trust Kelly. Don't trust Lauren. Don't trust the war dog. Maybe I I'm better off going to different direction. So it goes to the water hall, and he's like you can trust me my brand. My brand is honest. My brand is loyalty. You can trust me. And he said, okay, you ready to go back and also like he didn't really spend a whole lot of time trying to convince me. So that's when I decided we're getting them out that night. Now, let me tell you something about David. David Wright is such competitor, and that travel council, it felt like it was longer than the other one, because he will not die. He will not go down is like Mary, Queen Scott. She's trying to chop off the head and you keep missing. You can't he, he is just a fighter and he kept trying to spin webs and lives and talk people things that cancel it, it didn't really catch on TV, but he's just hard to kill. So when we got him out, I feel like a great sense of accomplishment, because he is on easy one to put down. So if he would have come to you with a plan instead of just like, hey, you can trust me. Then there's a good chance. You could you might have gone with him if he had set me down in, if I felt like I could trust him. I was ready to flip in like you saw in one of my trouble. Councils. I said, once you taste the blood of a blindside Yohannan get, I did about a blindside in anything other than a blunt side is. Boring. And I think in the back of our heads were thinking, we don't want this to be a boring survivor. You don't want it to be a boring season. You don't want it to be where all everyone knows. What's coming? You wanna have some intrigue, some excitement, and you wanna play aggressive, and you want to make big moves known. I sit in the final three you wanna be able to say this, this person and orchestrated this so anytime you have a chance to switch to a differently alliance make something big happen, and you're the one who caused it on it just gives you quite a resume. And so if David had sent me down and convinced me, you know, hey, here's what we're gonna do. Here's how it's gonna work for us. It's possible that I told David the word hall. I said, David, I think you're lying to me. I don't trust you and on a toll Victoria. Same thing didn't trust them and on. They did very little to convince me, otherwise, and so I don't know. It depends on how the conversation would have gone. Okay. That's in the first half of this, double episode, but you are really going to be the swing vote on the second half. That double episode and we get to the final nine and you're you really in the middle of everything here on the Kelly, Wentworth vote because, as the show presented it, you were the person who was going to decide if it was gonna be Kelly or Aurora, who went home at the final nine is that accurate? Yeah. It was me I love being in that position. A love being in the I get to make the decision on. What's going to happen tonight because collect have control inaccurate, relax a little bit? When I relaxed little bit. I get overconfidence Susa personal flaw. I got. So with with Kelly, there's something that you didn't see on TV in that is there was a challenge that we did. They didn't have time to air on the women's coconuts in basketball in his big puzzle that was so gigantic. So tax arowar challenge. It will reward challenge yet. Okay. Rum. And so Lauren Kelly in Gavin win it and they choose to take on Julie in which upsets the war dogs. He didn't get chosen for the cheeseburgers will later found out from Julie that while they're at this dinner that Kelly says we make a really strong final four here, we make a really strong fun of four. Why don't wait like this in right now? So 'cause remember in the line in the new alliance was right. Then it was those four, plus the word Auburn who who went on through war. It was Cal Kelly. Lauren Gavin Julie. Yes, the four four of the six people in our law, Scott. And during that they made a decision that they would be the final four and that were dog and I would be out. And so I go to the war dog, and I tell him and I'm like listen as like a like they're gonna, but one of us out feel like we're gonna, you know we're not we're not a lot on a four. And he's like, yeah he's like on a. No. I gotta take Kelly out. I think in like a voter to maybe two votes from now, we gotta look at taking Kelly out and so looking back. I'm not quite sure why did this? But I said to him, I said, but bunny, I was like, what if she's trying to take you out, this town one, if we wait too long he's like you're right. She goes home tonight. She goes home tonight. They didn't show it on TV, but on. And so then that's what he started hatching the plans to but out Kelly Aurora comes to me, and she's like, here's my extra vote and instantly because I've got this villainous, mischievous sad, whenever I played Ryan's right on Lou us, like I could vote around and keep extra. Vote. But then I was thinking, I don't know if this is the best idea because I think it's more important to have her true trust. Inverted sha. She can trust me because nobody really got along with a roar like she and I get along the best, even though we bicker. We're like brother and sister. We love each other. So if I can just keep around at her being in the game, maybe more valuable to me than a vote because there's one day we were in the water, she was crying. She said, nobody's gonna talk to me. Nobody necessarily choosy I wanna be with you. I'll take you to the end and minute. I'll take her to end in a heartbeat because I knew I Peter, but on but anyway, in, so when I had the choice of who to take out out of sought to myself Kelly, she's return, she's strong, she's crafty. She's she's out thought she was loaned by everyone. I love Kelly. I mean killing I have a lot Hersely comment. I mean she got along very well. And so it was a hard decision, but in the end I thought that Aurora be more loyal to meeting. Kelly says by made the decision. Pull the trigger on Kelly. What about in hindsight, do you feel like if you had that vote to do over again? Would you vote it out Aurora and taking her vote? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is horrible in a feel like online, people probably would have blasted may for doing something so horrible. I took the, the girl who was in Australia's extra vote the but now that I see that when people say stuff online, it's just they just say then it goes away. And it's just game play and people already sells of Bill in any way amounted deep deepen so. Yeah. Out of out a roar. Ends up turning on me in on into. Yeah. Than I would have had extra vote in hindsight. Probably the may I move, I'll do like it's us one. Yeah. You know, hindsight is twenty twenty but I also like to, you know. For somebody who's listening to this who's going to play the game one day. Like I feel like that I like you know, that perspective to be on the record. And so there's two sides to it. But looking back, it's always easier to see what you would have done because of the moment, I didn't think those anyway, that Aurore would ever betray me because, honestly, she's crying in my arms and telling me how great, she is for me and how we're going to be friends for life. And she could never bought me out. So what I learned is that I don't care who they are when they look at you and tell you supplemental survivor is it. They might mean in the moment gonna meet at five. The won't mean at five minutes from the point night, it was raining, so hard and I was so cold in Joe was like giving me a back massage and I'm like Joe. I'll nerve you out in that moment are minute. But then the next day when the son was up. I'll say he got to go pin, din aware of was the moment, how people are fickle. We'll change with the wind. Very mean game. It's tough really. Okay. So all right. So Kelly goes home auroras. Stay. As you eventually are going to give the extra vote back to Aurora. And then here comes war dog with a plan, and, and he says, hey, all of us pilots need to stick together. At least that's what we saw on the episode with you with you in Devon's. So. It's like this were dog is kind of like Khalidi. How collegiate slowly started to go a little insane admit met clean. Yeah. Well, that's what the war dog did too. And he was like getting to a point where he was just being a bitter Radic, and he was on he'd festive Gavin on wind told Lawrence shouldn't have a chance to make a final three is so and it's like I couldn't control him anymore is like I was Tyrian trying to colle- you can't do. And Kalinka not in any mind. So that was wore dog pay me. No mama. Debra said. Radic now and we're gonna was telling me we're office in the offices where he would go to talk with people in he called his office. But then one day I got invited to the penthouse which nobody ever get somebody to the penthouse by the word all and so I got invited which meant I was in high standing with him. So we or to the pin house, which is, which is on this half of rocks and we're sitting there and he's like Ron you now or Latin, I'm going to final four. Would you don't mind sitting beside you in the final three you're number one. You my buddy. I'm locked him with you. And so all these thoughts from through my mind of him, telling those things to Kelly im-, San things about Kelly him, saying, one thing to somebody's face telling Gavin unlocked with you thousand percent. In saying, Lavigne's gotta go in some like I can't trust him in, you know, honestly, all's at the war dog may work with me for one vote that he's just so a Radic right now. He's just he's lost his lost touch. And on as he's got to go 'cause I'd rather have somebody in the game. That's more stable. I know where they're coming from than have somebody who might earn down entire city display. Win. Inner it's not necessary to do that right now. Right. They were ringing the bell right, right? There were ringing, the bills and bills. They didn't care and just. Padras and then they're, they're more. And so I had to be Jon snow all the blade in and kiss award ball against the war dog your buddy trip run, we'll have to put a game of thrones spoilers warning on this podcast. Now part. I'm so sorry to everybody, like, oh well, I who cares enough has seen at this point. Yeah. I hope so. I'll let you I'll let people know, just in case. Okay. All right. So war dog is off to the edge of extinction. And now I have to think you're feeling like, hey, I got this now. Yeah. It was really pretty confident because of one hand, I had a roar who had pledged allegiance to me. I had Julie who would never betray me. She was my buddy had gaven who feels so loyal to me, especially after the Lublin bizzare about speak about I'm assuming. Yeah. And so I just felt like everything was under control in at the moment. Everybody's ass on voting out Rick. And so, I knew ahead Rick as a shield and had another show in my mind. And that was the first thing back from edge of extinction. Yeah. Whoever was bad. That's going to be the target and not me in. So I felt like I was in a pretty good situation. Felt confident Mike said when you get to confidence. That's what mistakes tend to happen. Can you talk a little bit about the looming edge? Extinction person like how much was that talked about in by the players and the game of somebody's coming back. We think we know around the time it's gonna be an how are we going to handle that, you know, I would have played the season completely differently there hadn't been edge of extinction. I really love it. You're voted out. You're kinda gone and you gains most people like most people to know that on my gosh, I voted out this person who's upset with me. Oh, they may come back soon. I mean it's no fun. It changes every everything that you think, in the so then it was we probably talked about it, a every five minutes, sixty seconds or one of one minute of every five we talked about education, who could come back. What do we do? If this was back. What do you think they're doing over there? So there was a lot of time. That was spent thinking about it in on kind of be fearful of who may come back and then being hoped who could come back. But that's interesting that you thought that. Okay. Well, at least then. When we get to that vote, then that's an easy one. We'll just vote that personnel when when whoever comes back and then we'll all dance one round for you, because we really did we really were all like that person who goes banks gonna win the game because that person has been with the jury for all of these weeks in that person is going to be connected they'd made friends. They've bonded together in so the end of extinction, people if nothing else out of allegiance for the person who came from the edge, it's almost like we're basketball teams in. That's their Representative that they're going into a big tournament. That's your schools team in your sending this person back into fight us, and you're gonna pull him for them. Yes, it wasn't fair. When you were in the game talking about that did did you think it at any point, there was a chance that you would vote for the edge of extinction person instead of a person that was in the game, the whole time, like is it almost because I would think that, like I understand the journey, you must have gone on. But I also have to feel like that there's, like some cognitive dissonance of, like, well, I would never vote for a person that was on the edge of extinction. The hallway? We'll honestly at the time one of my character flaws Zach intend to be a little era Ghent and get overconfident. And I, I was thinking, I'm not gonna be boating for. Somebody always did in the final overload voted on right voted on. And so, but at the time I, I don't know if I personally thought about what I vote for this person if they came back. But I think we all had a, a an agreement that we knew whoever comes back with probably get the vote of the people on the edge of extinction, because of the time they've spent together. So I just realized that we had to all of us in the game knew we had to build big resumes, because if you don't have a big resume resumes. Orange lose that led us to play very aggressive big on blindside type of moves because we knew we had to build a big resume to in order to come combat the first extinction. Interesting that calls a lot. Of what you saw with the flip flops of the alliances throughout Gallison, if they with your alliance and you play a bland boring game. Or if you don't make big moves. You're not gonna do enough to win in a season like edge of extinction. Okay. So we finally get to the family, visit and here comes laude. And here comes everybody's loved ones, and you're going to win the loved ones challenge was was there any talk about or thinking in your mind of man. I, I don't want this much power to have the loved ones responsibility. No. Unfortunately, like I said, I can get overconfident. And so, I didn't think it would matter. I didn't I knew about the loved ones curse, but I was thinking, it'll be okay and three. I don't know how much innovates and I think it's that bad of a curse, like it happens. Sometimes it goes bad. But it's not not every time was happened three times. I was yours. Yeah. So an honestly, you know, I couldn't really walk, right? I would stand up in our kind of black out a little bit when out stand up. So I had to sit down slowly in stand up, slowly and couldn't hunt crabs anymore. And I didn't have energy look for an idol, like people look on TV and you see Rick Devon's run around looking for idols can let me tell you the man spend like ten hours a day. I don't hunting knowing you run an idol, and it looks like it was so easy, and someone says Oprah Duchesne's, helping him find idols note, the man earned the idol, like ten hours a day. He's like clemen trees crawling on his hands on as digging stuff up like he never stopped. I did not have the energy at at lost so much weight, I was so weak in arm. So going into the loved ones challenge, I'm thinking, probably not gonna win this on out trauma, best. But what is funny as it every single person on the tribe, came to me within the two days of the loved ones challenge said, if I win the loved ones challenge, I'm taking you Ron up promise. I'm taking you. Yeah. Because. I had built on with all the people even Victoria was like Ron Amish. I'm taking a win it on. She was lying or not. But everybody almost me that Alice, the one. So felt like even if I don't win it. I feel like I have a good chance at dope. Pick me and Lloyd, if, if we don't, but I'm still gonna try my best. Yeah. And then it was a betrayal. When you actually did win you took Julie. And then Gavin was was there any anybody else that was close to your consideration. So rob I have replayed, the semi brain on every night, like must've conscious is has not dealt with survivor will, like I have nightmares about it all the Tomic every night, there's some survivor aimed dream like I'm still not over it. Like I go back to that moment. What could I done who should I have picked should? I be Aurora Aurora. Julie didn't like each other, and they work on a work together that made that very clear, John pick, Devin. But if Devon's on still upsetting Victorian Lauren in, so I don't know if I'd go back a still pick the same people. But because I don't know how I would have rationalized M ahead of do it differently. Victoria was so upset with me like a known her podcast. She was like now, understood Ron wasn't upset Victoria was so furious with me we get back to camp, and I go to the money, I would wanna be on her bedside either. No. The, the freckles on her face, or blood splatters. So I go up to Victoria apologized from say, I'm so sorry, I'm a civic trim says, sorry, go to hugger and she jerks away from me. Yes rights Crump, like she was like furious Lawrence cut Nuys, at me, she's upset. So those young ladies were quite upset. They wanted to spend time with their fathers when identity pick them they were truly upset, not to be fair, when Lauren and Victoria, said to me, I'm going to pick you if I win the loved one visit at told them both I appreciate that please. No, I won't account. Pick you 'cause I'm going to have already told other people, I would pick them. So I won't pick you, but be great with you pick me. So I was up front, but yet they were very upset when they didn't get picked, but you did take Gavin. And yet you, you and you said on the episode, you know, while I told him it's because that he just got married and this is honeymoon, but it's not really because of that. That's not that's not r-. Really, why you were doing it, but then in this very episode. He's going to cast his vote, not once but twice against Iran on a is a dagger to the heart light. I should've known in his mama steak Gavin voted out. Eric and Gavin. Had been so loyal to Eric in in. I should've known he'll just vote me out as well. I just is horrible Gavin would go with the numbers wherever there will be numbers Gavin would jump to the numbers. And as soon as the ladies, whatever Gavin is gab when we have the numbers to vote out on Rick and then runs a backup plan, and we have the numbers Gavin just went with wherever numbers were regardless of alliances in so. Yeah, it did me in hurt, because Gavin told me after I picked him level and Bizet. He's at Ron, I promise you buddy Al near book to out we're locked to on a three buddy. I promise you that on my work my honor. And he said it just like that. I did not expect it to happen. But it is in the game in favors me nothing in survivor, so of. Is it hurt me? But yet it's the game. And like you said, when I'm sure he meant it when he said it. Yeah, I'm sure in that moment. And I think he was sincere. Yeah. But when you're trying to play a game you know, we all you bond with people in survivor. But in the end of the day, it's like your family and your friends, and you want to win the game, and the people means something to you, but it's just you wanna win for your family. Your friends like Victoria, put on your curious like I have no emotional investment, or connections to any of these people on this island in so I do care about these people I do feel love for some of those people even like I'm very connected to them. But at the end of the day is kind of game where you're trying to win something for your family. Yeah. And the loved ones visit, I mean, sort of the beauty of the loved ones. Visit is that it's you're getting close to the end. And then it's kind of like this wakeup call, where for thirty some odd as that all you've known is survivor, and these people that you're with. The only people that you talked to besides the production people. And you kinda do forget, there's an outside world and sometimes the loved ones. Visit is like a wakeup call cola this isn't my life. These aren't this isn't my family, like I'm not going to see these people that often after this is over. And sometimes people become more self interested after that you're Gavin seeing corley may have been part of my undoing when you may have heard. Oh my goodness. This reminds me of wine here of why when this, this is this is not true alliance. Not Ron so that could have been part of my unduly. But like when you when you look on TV, and I would think when I would watch survivor, I think about people who go into points, and they're going for six months or year from their family. And I'm thinking it's just thirty days people. I'm the Yar crying like it's just like you the world with when you're there in that moment, like it's just hard to explain thirty basil survivor feels in your outside living in the wilderness, feels like a year and you don't know what's going on anybody's. Heard your parents or K on. What's in just you desperately crave it like if you went a day without food and shelter in a day where you're cold, you're going to crave your family more than anything you want desperately, when it's two days, you want them even more when his thirty days, it's almost like on the urge is indescribable. And so when Jeff said, Ron, your husband is like I just came tell you what came over me, I was just I was mush. So I know we're talking about the vote in this episode, but there's still more that's happening in these couple of days and the action for this round all starts with when you give the advantage menu to Rick Devon's the expired advantage menu. There's a secret seen earlier in the season where you talk about how you're going to hold onto it. I didn't think anything was going to come of it. But then here it is. And, and you give it to Rick, Devon. Did you feel like that Devon's was convinced that this was the genuine article? Yeah, I knew I had to do something because I had lied to Devon's like three trouble councils in a row. I have betrayed him a lot. But I still need him in my back pocket, I still wanted him to accountable because Devon's is like spinning ten hours a day looking for idols. So I'm thinking the only way to get him to calm down. And maybe not look for this item so much as if he feels like on the has an idol. Maybe that would maybe he'll say committee. I can relax a bit. I'll be I'll be on be safe tonight. So that's why gave it to him because number one on one him to trust me into relax. Number two. I want him to feel like we don't need to hunt so much for Neidl and a hope that might keep him from finding one and lead to a greater likelihood. He'll be about that night. Yeah. Did he seem like he bought it? Yeah. He bought a or his sinker a specially when pullover Julie in yet, Julie knows about it. And when Julius like yes. It's this is so awesome in you use this on bland side tonight you play to the and so he was like, oh my goodness on. He appeared like it was one hundred percent in the back of my head. I'm like he's probably questioned it real. How could I fake it? And so he's probably in later. I asked must like what percentage of you believe me? He's like I was like sixty percent is probably real sixty percent. And then you saw Julie goes to the watering hole and Julie's like Ron up really guilty about this like Jolie. Pull it together. Survivor. A lead for Julie Danas dark hole. But yeah, yeah, my plan was, and it didn't quite work out like a wounded to an I'm just gonna tribute this to lack of any nourishment day thirty when omit to win. We're at travel council to Lena room whispered to Devon's Recife. We have the votes don't waste the idol. Just keep it don't. And I was hoping that he would think can may I am safe. Maybe I don't need to play it. And therefore, if he had another idol he would not play that either I don't know. I was trying to trying to pull that together. My ahead on the way travel is going wasn't really working out in so I didn't do it, eventually played it, which it is what it is yet. And so a before we get to that. So you also are suspicious that he is going to play something at that travel council. He might have the real idol and you want, Rick. Vote for Aurora, which which he does. And so I thought he may have an idol, but then I was thinking, not only does because Aurora had ram site is bag. She went through the bag and Jim find an idol a talk to him, and he was like, nah, don't have an idol, and I hadn't given him my advantage with the hopes that, if he did fun something, he'll be forthcoming and say, oh, actually, I found some Lula found a hope that he would trust me to the point. Who would tell me apparently you know, he didn't trust me completely because he didn't tell me he found or in so. But I was hoping that he would if he did. So I was thinking he probably didn't have one on the plan that night, which it didn't really come across. But my plan was for everyone to vote for it because they'll be dumb plan because we had idol would work out. Well, and also, if you don't have a backup plan, it's not gonna on things we're going to go you want. So a plan was that night. And this is a little. Fused and saw trion summit up a second, and everyone to vote for rig except for Victoria. We're going to Victoria as a backup plan just throw Votto, Lauren. We're going Lauren as a backup plan to throw a vote on Victoria each would or would be told the throw a vote on the other person. And Ashley Aurora was the one who actually hatched that plan and on Aurora was like so headstrong too. That's what she wanted to do. And I was thinking. Hey, this isn't bad for me. Maybe that can sit back for voter to let other people make decisions that don't involve me, a kind of be quiet. Maybe I won't be seen as much of a threat. And so I was kind of going along with Mike surely student great. So the plan was it. If Rick did play an idol. It will be a three way tie between Aurora. One book from Rick and then Vic would get one book, Loren Loren. Get one book for big and Wigan to revote. And if we had revolted Victoria was going home. Wow. At. At that. Is this complicated 'em because then? Yeah. For brick doesn't play his idol then it's a very messy situation back at camp also. But if Rick no. Yeah. But it would have been messy. But it wouldn't have been bought me yells. Yeah. Rick, okay. Now when did you? Piece together what happened to you, because then because there's so much going on with Rick, where he's like he goes to play the advantage menu. And, and it doesn't work. And then he really, you know, lays into you in Julie in front of everybody about how what you guys trying to make me, look like in idiot in front of my kids and then plays the, the real idol and you and you apologize to Rick on the way out the door. But did you did you know that it, it wasn't Rick that had necessarily been involved in the votes against you at that point? Yeah. New Julian, both Manu written. But for me, Rick Rick is very loyal when Rick came back from extinction. He said I've seen now how horrible it is to book blowout law at that game anymore on a play honest game. And so under he minute. And so he when he said he was convoked for running was gonna vote for ROY Moore win. He did all the theatrical. Of yelling at me. I didn't really care because it's like you, you know, I'm a showy person but he like he Trump's by, like, gin volts if you wanna be show that I can accumulate the show. But and so when he was yelling at me is like, I think those probably a poor choice of, of what to say in the moment is, is not that serious. You wanna come or income in Billund? Don't bring in that. I'm trying to embarrass you in front of your kids because that wasn't what was going on there. But on as you saw once the boat started to be read in my name came up. I kind of felt it was going to happen answer new as Aumont goblin names coming next. And then I knew it. And so I wanted to know who did it and I already figured it out. But I turned to look at Gavin and Gavin went look at me. He was kinda like Weasley sky looking away, as or make contact with minutes has been who did it right there. And I looked at Aurora and she wouldn't look at me, and I was like, okay assay. I get it. So the not just a discount my torch. And when I go over at tournament, a speech, Emma speech was actually. More lengthy, and it was more pitiful than they showed on TV than arm. I was apologizing. Ron, I love you buddy just is just a game and then a turn to Victoria, and Lauren in say between Lauren as which no I'm so sorry can be offered for the level visit 'cause I know how much your bothers need you an onslaught apologize for that. And they burst out laughing and they said, that's not why we voted you out. We have other reasons for new out and they burst out cackling laughing, and it was like it was really kind of mean an and were dog said, no we're dogs, a tough guy, he's on his in the joy watching he said, even made him feel bad, because he made emotional to say how sad. I'll look when they're sitting there laughing at me, and so that is turned in. Jeff's, snuffed my torch than it did not just left. And I was just like the lowest of low and just like Rick said, once you walk down that plank and you realize how horrible it feels because I wasn't walking on the point myself as walking on the plank with my students Ma family, my friends, everybody who knew. Devastated that moment and you just feel so horrible. What you realize that all those years of watches Obama, I'll say, why can't wait to vote people out. I can't wait to blonde south people once you see how it feels and how it hurts. People is a totally different perspective in auto played the game differently knowing how bad it felt horrible. What would you have done differently, like how would you have played differently now that you've had the experience when you saw confessionals analysis like being like I was taking so much. Pleasure out of lying in misleading people think, out of Texas, as much pleasure from that. And I think I would have tried to play a more loyal game and I wouldn't have lied to somebody. I mean I would have lied because is necessary at times. But I don't think I would have relished the moment so much. And I think I would try to stay more loyal to people could go back in time, I would have worked with Rick ricochet. I realize now was really generally trying to be loyal. To me. Nothing could've gone that route out of taking it as opposed to being a little bit illness. All right to you are now off to the edge of extinction. And you touched on briefly about your, your time, with, with ream is, is there anything else that you could talk about about life on the edge of extinction. I talked to Chris, and he talked more about what it was, like when there was only a few people. But now you're coming to a pretty heavily populated edge of extinction. I, I have to think it's sort of like its own, like functioning community at this point. Yeah. It's comedy. There's a hierarchy there in there's a systems in place in this order, and kind of like piggy. Welcome into Lord of the flies, and it was like a strange feeling. You have to ride this little boat to get there. And you get there late at night, you just been voted out your wit and I was like so impressed with the word all out. He was the first one degree me. He gave me a big hug is that Ron love your bud. Easy, come on over here. You announced, like I just voted him out. You know, recently in there. He is like, come on over all regaining a big hug. Monk mon- reinserted greet me Joe Joe Louis completely destroyed his game. And how horrible is on the job buddy, buddy, big huge hug era, which is so generally wonderful, then you go over to the fire and is late. So people ask me to tell my story a little bit so limitless story wanted recently happen, and then everyone goes to sleep. Well, like I said, there's a hierarchy in their customs in place. So when you're the first person to come, they don't tell you this is going to happen, but everyone forms a circle around the fire, and there's no spot for you. So when you're the first person come you don't get a seat sleep by the fire that night. So I'd go over and are in this little pot of sand by myself curled up in. It's so cold at night. It's like all phrasing, and you just shiver. And I'm like, who just like. You could even Huma Elizabeth Schifrin. And then Julia look over at her. And she liked waves her finger free to come closer in school of a closer. And she takes this little piece of on the wants to call the mass, and she takes and gives it to me knows probably like one foot by two feet at us. The kind of cover myself up a little bit in pedagogy sleep. But on one thing that they also didn't shy from the edge which was really beautiful. Is that every day, everybody would pick up and you'd stand in a circle, and you would talk about on things that you wanna let go of regret pain mistakes. An airbag will take these shells in throw them into the water and on you would it was like such a Arctic youthful? Tom nearby would cry. It was really wonderful. Nobody really on taught about our showed it on TV, but it was really great. And Eric would lead that charge every day. It was beautiful to go get the rice on the edge of extinction is almost like less, not eat because you have to come. All the way up this mountain and you're exhausted in its rookie of there. And then some days of roaches in the rice container now. Yes, horrible and you don't get much risers a little tiny bit enough to have a little unscreened the morning, one in the afternoon. And so then you had to go all the way down. It's gonna dangerous in its rocky is the edges just the worst. But also thing they didn't show is that I had taken some leather that was at our camp, and I cut it up and I made playing cards now painted on them. So we had a deck of cards that I had him audit not took a women to the edge of extinction. So we play spades every day. We just lay in the in the sand get burnt up with the sun and just in Spain that was spot of, oh, and there's rats there. There were rats. It was hard on now. So were you able to strike up a friendship with Chris at all while you were there? Yes. So Christina, we bonded when we were on edge extinction is kind of like this. Everybody was still playing the game like everybody's still like very much in game mode, 'cause a lot of this or thinking they knew they'd be the one to get back in the game. They wanted our votes. So everybody was very nice, but Chris, like making the fire could arise to give everybody been is like Mr. everything for everybody talking, great guy on in so yeah, we bonded a lot because I guess he was still playing the game. But at on some level, I think Chris made peace in Chris was like relaxed said his perfect game was over that he didn't win. He used to seem very genuine and then something on those little bit controversial, but I had offered on said, if anybody wants me to write a letter found some chalk in. Part of the massive feeling wants me to write a letter to Julie, you can put it in your pocket. And then when you get you give it to her, then she would probably more likely to work with you. And So, Chris said Ramadan, Rodney a lead on the short would is our wrote him a read a letter Julian's to Julie. Chris is a great guy. Give them a chance to work with him and assigned it love. Ron and on a Sunday course of writing on like she knows. All right. Is so he goes to the island and he gives it to her. And she didn't believe it was for me. Like I don't believe this does light Ron Sam. Right. But it was a handwriting on believe it. But, but, but you had the foresight to say, hey, I'm probably going to get back in the game. So can you write me a letter to work with Julie and, and I can give her get back offered. I and when offered he said, yeah, I'd like it, but this was before he won the challenge before he won the challenge. I mean that's for those pretty smart on, on his part. Yeah. So the reason I voted for Chris was many, many reason, and he ended up with everybody. He wasn't like, hey. Hi, kelly. Can you write me a note for to give the Lauren? No, it's just me. Yeah. Are only good idea. Yeah. And so when Chris goes back in the reason I book for Chris, I'm sorry to jump ahead to that. He just on. He played a strong aggressive game in, in the time that he had some people say ELL, he only played so few days, but really he he was playing the whole time who was twenty eight days on the edge of a sanction still plan. You can you can say there's issues with the theme because he was able to get information from Kelley if found out that Lauren had an idol, which was very valuable information on knew about it. So he went in locked and loaded with that. He also found out something even more valuable he learned from the jury that of the people less left in the game that Rick would win, but if Rick's gone Victoria wins in so he moved targets. He goes in insulin he's gonna target Victoria and rig. If you don't get a talk to the jury, you don't have that information so he goes back in, and you could say it's unfair but give him credit because he used the information that he had, and he did something with it. He went or he made old moves. He he gave up his immunity to, to build fire against Rick, even though he had confidence. He would beat him. He did the banks he had to do to win. I have to Victoria, but I'd love to know from you, as well was is there anything that Gavin could have said differently at the final tribal council to if not get your vote get to seven to win the game. I went into I don't travel. I told myself I wasn't going to be emotional. I was upset with Gavin for both me out after more Loveland Bizet, but I got over that after a couple of days said, you know, discount to out here, everybody out and on a wish Gavin had owned his game more. I wish Gavin Gavin when he talks to me, he was in trouble cancel. It didn't show it on TV, but he was more like, yes. Sorry, buddy is the I wish he'd been more like Ono. I knew I was lying to you, and I allowed to you for this reason. And I told you this for this reason, when I said, this at didn't mean it are trying to make you feel confident, but he didn't say those types of things. And so I didn't hear what I needed to hear from him. I wanted to hear that he was masterful. And then he had on plotted and that he knew what he was doing that. He wasn't just going with the numbers and boating, with others. And when I didn't hear that it may be that out. It's gonna vote for Chris. Okay. If I voted emotionally at boated for Julie because Jill. Burning or the, the logical would not try to honor survivor tradition in trying to vote while all should win the game. It was Chris in my mind and anything else from the final tribal council or your experience on the edge that you want to mention. No, I mean I could talk all day about, well, I'm not some more questions for you. From the patrons of rob as a podcast. Sure. Go ahead. Okay. All right. Let's let's see. Okay. Owing night has a question about the potentially being recognized which we were discussing earlier. So did you have a plan? In case somebody knew of you. Owen is in higher education and finds a your school more amazing every time he reads about it. Keep being awesome. Ron, thanks owner for shape that I'm hoping Bizet sometime. But I yeah, I had a plan, somebody recognized a witch. I always like people don't know who I am. But I was just in case somebody might recognize me. I was just going to downplay. And I was gonna if somebody put it out. Oh, didn't you write a New York Times bestseller? Book didn't you make a lot of money from that? I was just gonna tell them yet. And I run a nonprofit all the money from it went into the nonprofit in the 'cause I've given so much money to the school on haven't really done anything for myself. And so I want to luck have a house for my family and myself. And so, I'll just gonna kind of take that route one thing I was very clear to do, as I never semi lesson, Florida. Nobody ever we. I just always was run in there ever said. Elba. What's your last name in? So I thought it was Ron Clark or Mr Clark. It might put it together. But in Ron think that made it on better for to be incognita. Yeah. My, my christianson has a question about that. I, I think I remember hearing that Ron didn't tell people his last name was Clark. How did you go? Thirty plus days, living with people, and the topic of last names. Just doesn't come up. No, it comes up that you just you invaded in on a believe. We did have a conversation at the fire where people started talking about last names, I got up walked away, and like I was going to get water. I mean I just avoided it. But also just human nature people love to talk about themselves my goodness, for last two hours of touto myself. I love it people love by themselves. So if you ask questions about film, they're going to be happier. On people rarely will be happy when they're seeking to learn about someone else. And so people just didn't ask questions that allow that made me have to go deeper. Okay. Met Gillam wants to know. Are there any of the Ron Clark rules that particularly helped you during your survivor on, of course? Ron has the essential fifty five rules for educators. Was there any of the rules that really came into play? Yeah. Like just said rules about being a good listener trying to seek to understand seek to learn about people more than you learn about yourself. Seek to hell on, on live for the moment. Don't, don't live with regrets, this lots of things philosophically, that can help you get through situations like survivor, but also a lot of the rules, are about this socialism with people had to be kind or how to help others, how to be a member of a teen at a clap, and uplift those around you on so a lot of the rules apply to the way I played the game. Patrick Rediker wants to know Ron told Josh wiggle, her that he really worked on puzzles before the show, including copying previous puzzles. Learn had. Perfect them did that help at all. Because I don't think it helped David Wright. It's not nice. He I watch you Punto videos, and he had like the whole book of every single survivor puzzle. But I don't know if he's he said it wasn't a lot of help yet wasn't. There are some puzzles that they had walked up there out of killed it because I practiced it done it. But none of the ones I had done actually surfaced. But yeah, I think like watching puzzles like will put in the world together. I think things like that may have been easier to me because I had seen it so many times in wash it, but several times, but I don't know if they really helped me and I'm not sure it would help. I think Cochran didn't he practice a puzzle than yet. She had to do a puzzle that practice it Spencer, Spencer. Yeah. He solved in like five seconds, because he had done it hit like trae on it. Yeah. Yeah, I guess there's a chance, it could help you. But don't on if if you're I'm a little bit neurotic. So if you're a neurotic like me than it does a hurt deprived this. I'm not sure if it's really gonna on, on benefit or run, Joey Jett Laskey wants to know what did you think, edge of extinction, really meant before the twist was revealed. Did you give that any thought yet we all talked about it a lot? We try to make predictions about what extinction was in that none of us are really sure we just thought, oh, you're on the edge of extinction. You're bad to be voted out all in Joe in them. They've gotten all the way to be embedded up before we weren't really sure one thing, this funniest at one night. We were at Kama beach in. We were just sit on the beach talking. And we looked in the far distance. We saw this fire on this strip trip on sand in the middle of nowhere. And we're like who is that it is out there? And we had no idea, but it was actually rain though, so night, she got to the edge of extinction, but we didn't know it or it might have been the next night. But I'm because the first night she when it was raining, but yet, but we didn't put it together. We should it was right there on the whole the you've got the man and the thing and the ship sail. It was there with his didn't put it together. Okay. Josh green wants to ask you who was the person from mono that Ron bonded with the most either on the edge or in the game. And by the way, my mom went to the Ron Clark academy and loved it on, I'm blessed. She did the person from Monir, who are from less monitoring. Well, I guess, probably the war doll. I out of this is hard are so the ward off, like I mean, in our we're very close. I mean, we text almost every every day he's a great guy, very smart like if anybody feels like any negative feelings about him about things that he said, on social media stuff. He's, he's. Is a nice guy. He's really, he's got a good heart on, but killing up on it a lot on killing a we don't really talk much now like she was just in Atlanta yesterday when we texted about that. But machina are very similar. We have a lot in common, but it probably be are one of those one of those individuals out say, okay, not roaring not Lauren Brock cheek wants to ask you might wife is a high school special education teacher, who's getting burnt out from dealing with the education system. Do you have any advice for teachers in that situation? Yet Brock, I would just say are focused on the kids, 'cause there's education America right now. It's very difficult. Very much teach to a test in Harris can be difficult. We actually have a whistle fide education system in America in on mixed things hard, as soon as we as teachers start to challenge kids on people complain. They don't want their kid to be on. Pushed it a challenge in, so it's difficult. But I will just tell her while to other team. Focus on the kids closure door. Remind yourself it's just trying to make an impact in the life of a child and ERM don't get so hung up on what you can't do because your hands are tied. Don't get so hung up on the things they won't let you do focus on what you can do and on, of anything just being a good mood. When I go to school every day. Sometimes I've had horrible time. I'm sick or a family, something's going on family drama. But out is Thomas have Ron the number one job of teachers to be in a good mood. You gotta walk in that building and be happy and spread good energy. And I'll go in there, and I'll fake it, and I'll smile and I'm half having kids and usually after about ten minutes or so, I'll really we'll start if. Oh, good. But I'm you just gotta gotta dig deep and do whatever you have to be a positive influence in the life, children, Ron, can I ask you a couple of questions about the movie that I watched today, sir? So I watched the movie, and then I said, okay, well, this is probably, you know, ver- very much like, maybe loosely based on. What, what really happened? And there's you know, then I saw you jumping, rope with the students but then I watched the clip of you talking to Oprah on YouTube. And then you talked about how that you really had to double dot right? That's what it's called. Yeah. And you really did that. So I said, oh, well, maybe more things from the movie are actually things that really happened to Ron. Did you really chug all of the chocolate milk? Was that real? Yeah. Really did? New can you explain where you got the idea for that yet? The kids would Chuck chocolate milk. It was everybody got free reduced lunch hundred percent. So the kids would at lunch, they would chocolate milk Suka finish. There's the quickest. So it just gave me an idea. I was like release having trouble ahead thirty seven kids in the class. And they were really focused in it was it was hard to every day I was trying to dictate the fund something to get them excited. And so I had this plan. I said an in the movie, I think sit every three thirty seconds of the but in enroll life, I said for every three minutes fifteen. It was it against it was it was three minutes in real life. But they said fifteen on. Okay. Fateh speed it up. I guess, but a if every three minutes each of you will pay attention this lesson, a chug, a carton of chocolate milk. I said, you know, you might get a see me get sick in. So it's just something silly on, like, when you saw in the movie, I got I got sick and passed out that was true on the videotape. My lessons on VHS tape and some more pick it up and take advantage of it tape to my class. So the subsidy could show it because I was so sick like, yeah. Running the double Dutch, I would go there on every break to bond with the kids, a visit their homes. I yet the stuff in the movie for most are true, and the president wrap that that was real also. Now, let's get down to some presidential learning will star, George Washington straight from burning. I president and commander in chief fought the revolution. Genera were so we can be free yet. I make songs to teach content. Parents not like doing the song. He said, it's the most horrible day he's ever had on a set with unique hearing when he had to wrap residents rep. Yeah. What guy you more sick drinking all the chocolate milk or the spider bite of the spider bite? Okay. Did you did? Did you actually get sick from the chocolate milk? Nah. Not really. No. How much of a boon to everything you're doing? Was it when you ended up across paths with Oprah? Yeah, it was pretty huge. When I was named the American teacher of the year, she was in the audience at arm in Los Angeles. And so she called apartment in arm. She's a hey on doing article about you for my magazine. Oh, Nelson okay? In after the in the magazine interview she said, I think I'm gonna have you on the show to Nelson. Okay. What else can ignite you'd like I'm from the country? I'm online. Okay. Outcome. If you'll saw show up to be on the Oprah show a need a haircut awareness ago, baggy shirt tied. There's a stain on my pants in on a show up in the people in the green rooms, like make people like oh my God. What did you cut your hair? We among please don't watch this on YouTube because you. Don't say, oh my God. What a crisis he was a mess. And at did the interview in it was crazy. And she was afterwards things blew up. She told Mestre write a book, and I wrote a book called this central twenty five that you mentioned earlier. And then she had me back on the show to profile it. And when she profiled the book on her show, one hour after the show, but was number two in the nation. It was behind Harry Potter books for about four months in all the money from the book went into a foundation, and that's how we use we use that money on before nonprofit. And we bought a nasty old factory in the second highest crime rate area of Atlanta, and at factory in that area is now where we have the school not only do we teach our kids and use passionate energy and creativity. But every week we opened our doors. We allow educators around the country and around the world to come watch T tea CR medicine. What we do we have six hundred meters every week? The come from all over sixty thousand have come so far to be trained by us. They take what we do back their school systems. We have a lot of educators that listened to the podcast, if they want to come out and see what you're doing how do teachers of find out more about how to get down to see you. Sure, what if you wanna learn more about the school, you could just visit like Instagram page, just wrong corner, kademi or the or follow us on Facebook or go to our website rock. Learn kademi dot com. If you wanna come for a day, train in this expensive, it's like four hundred fifty dollars. If you wanna come get trained by most of us are nationally recognized educators, do a phenomenal job on a lot of teachers actually planned through something called donors, choose dot org, which you just go on there and you select that you wanna come back school, but I'm much gonna cost for your flight a hotel. And on into of the last three years, we've had major donors go onto the site in und- everybody who applies for the grant. And so it's, it's worth applying. If you're interested in common okay? Rachel turn Pau wants to ask you in. In your book, move your bus you categorize people as drivers runners, joggers, walkers and riders. Did you use those categories when assessing your cast mates? And did your assessment of them change. Once you watched the show. That's more complicated than pilots and passengers. Actually, you know, during the show on, on film, when we were there on the island Lauren, I wasn't really keen on Lauren after I started watching the show. I realized, wait a minute. I think Lauren was playing more more of a gain than I expected. She wasn't a rider, I think she was trying to be at at least a jogger. She was more than as center. Tex said Lawrence. I'm realizing that you, you actually you're playing much harder than that. At expected us an apologize for doubting some of your game gameplay is think, Nah, I really appreciate that. She was very sweet about it. But yeah, a runner is somebody who's gonna play aggressive and make big moves like in the last week. Chris was a runner. He just went for it on a jog or somebody who's gonna make some moves, but not really big moves a Walker. Somebody who's just kind of hanging around going with the votes to what other people, tell them then a ride or somebody who's like completely clueless. I think I would omic quite that way. All right. Ron anything else you want people to check out we're going to follow Hamilton Westbrook on Instagram. We're going to check out check out the website and the Instagram for the Ron Clark academy. Nah. It's under so grateful to you rob for doing this in giving people a platform to talk about survivor. I love it on this wonderful. Appreciate he how you always take so much time to do your research to do a thorough job of helping us a game, why I try I feel like that, you know, I, I like to have like a historical record of all of this stuff. And I you know, I know from many weeks doing the survivor know it alls I would be doing the show trying to concentrate on what Stephen was saying. And I would see Ron Clark in the chat room saying now that's not what happened or your your. No way you're wrong. Oh, but yet I just love all in. I appreciate I appreciate it. That, that, that makes me happy to have. I know you've been listening. Yep. Yep. And just says that you're probably the smartest will never to play the game. I can see why he would say, well that was a long time ago, Ron yet, but on. But still, but still not just I'm just not as appreciate the opportunity to them on Waterworth driver waltz survivor. Yes. I think you know this, but you're a great storyteller. And this time has flown by getting to hear about your time on the show. Oh, appreciate it. Thank you so much. Rob. Okay. Ron. Please. Keep in touch. Okay. All right. Thanks a lot. All right. Take care. Bye. Bye. 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Survivor B&B Season 38  Preview RHAPup  with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas

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Survivor B&B Season 38 Preview RHAPup with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas

"Some game that I'm right to your mom. Offense. The R H A Payton. From day. Awesome school. I can tell you. The are. Hi, everybody and welcome to the RHA BNB's coverage of survivor thirty eight edge of extinction. My name is Mike bloom. Here forget another visit another session with the BNB. We were not going extinct anytime soon hopefully to tackle this new season of survivor with some fun games and against along the way, let me bring in my to co host to break down the preseason of this season of survivor. I Mike O host of the BNB the lovely Liana Boras who puts the comma in Kama Sutra, Eliana. How you doing? Did I miss something? And someone's video is that a reference it's the name of a tribe. Oh, the comic drive. Okay. Well, man, you know. Okay. I must ATN. Oh, never mind. Anyway. Thank you. While what a great introduction. I just feel like I'm really starting the season off on the right foot by completely bungling. My intro. So just raise the flag right now. We might you might wanna bail and start over here. Well, if man mad you suck at this Leon there we go. Okay. I was about to say we're also have our head writer here. Pull off the new puts the Magno in Montana. Those are the stretch might but. Yeah. Hello. Hi on. I'm excited to be back with you to wonderful hosts of the BNB. So we were actually talking about this right before we came on the air. Here comes survivor thirty eight which brings not only fourteen new contestants for returning contestants and a whole new twist. But just entire sue NAMI of survivor coverage, which I think I'll admit for all three of us snuck up on us a little bit. I don't know if it was the celebrity big brother stuff going on all the beginning of the year things rushing in. But I don't know I feel like survivor thirty eight sort of snuck up on us. But I guess got enjoy the surprise that comes out of it. We were truly blindsided by the fact that this starts next week. Yeah. I'm just happy that the had four walls and a roof and adore still, thankfully because he didn't have a whole lot of time to get it put back together. But yes, I am looking or into the season. Although it definitely did. Sneak up on me. And this is going to there's going to be a fun. I'm excited. So I feel like it used to be that the summer offs. Like it used to be at the winter off season was worse than the summer off season in terms of like because you feel like it's going to be shorter than than it is. But I think was for anyone who's across big brother and survivor fan this. You know, the big brother stuff is really makes it so like it felt like we were we didn't take a break at all survivor yet not to mention rupaul drag race has been happening as well. The challenge just up surf if you're a fan of reality TV in general, you've never gotten up from the table you've been sitting just piling this buff bay into your body's for the past couple months or so during the holidays, and now I guess we're ready to get on a rice only diet as we talked about survivor thirty eight we've a lot to get into obviously between the cast the twists and everything else under the sun. But I guess I wanna start by just asking Paul. What are your overall thoughts about edge of extinction? As we are about to as we were on the edge of the edge of extinction. What are your thoughts about it? Overall. Weirds? I when I think about this cast and just going through them and reflecting on them. And I spent the last couple of days in preparation for this podcast. You're listening to out there with with I one out in reading stuff online in watching ET Canada videos. I don't really know how I feel about this like there's for the majority of the cast. I feel like they're fairly just normal people. And in a lot of ways the covered we've gotten from them has been pretty low key. They like there's not too many wackos. We still have feel like a handful of the really like the the cliche people were trying to fill in whether that be like, we need another Tony, you know, or we need another southern superfan that we kind of have a few of those for the most part. I just kind of like, I don't know what to think lies people seem pretty normal. I think that's interesting because I totally get what you're saying about Nowak os their few people like, Wendy, who are really very loud and. Ver- very much stands out. But I think there's a lot of say subtle wackos. I don't know if that's a phrase like at us. Ron Clark Aurora. Rick war dog I get there's gonna be a lot of fun characters. I think that they're just more subtle penalty than maybe what we're used to and in that were in comparison to big brother as well. That's what we have sort of his immediate pairs. Of course, we're never going to have those types of people. I would like to redact. My my one word answer gave from weird please change that too subtle. I this cast and the season subtle. I mean, I guess can we determine what subtle wacko is. Can we call that? Like quirky. What does that lie on the spectrum of adjectives? I don't know. We'll have to wait for a mad libs game before we could figure out subtle wacko the definition of subtle wacko. I think it's someone who has a lot of. What are strong personality traits? But they're not completely overwhelming. Just you know, John Clark is the guy keep going back to I mean, although I guess he had a movie made about him. So. You know, maybe he's the wrong example. But even someone someone like ream, for example, she stands out to me someone who got kicked out of a gym because she was arts. Ways with her trainer. Liana? That is the perfect example. That's who I was gonna I'm listening to it. I love her like, she's such a character, and she's kind of chill, and then like the more you hear from her in the more like the tiny get to all the stuff you can really absorb about regular like, okay? There's definitely something wacky here from this woman, new something very calm, and she's a mother as she watches virus or kids to. Yeah. Cut to the season for being kicked out of the gym because how she reacts at lost two pounds or something. So subtle wacko reap just say that Lauren Rimmer went might be my favorite from the preseason. Yes, right. I forgot I forgot about her. She will she I feel like there's a lot of comparisons. Though. In terms of like, I don't wanna get too much into the cast, you know, the nitty gritty of it all because we're gonna get into later on. But very matter of fact has the same haircut. You know, I think she's very direct with her reproachable sif she can replicate Lawrence success in the game. But I feel like Lauren was regarding the same way as Raymond like. Oh, boy, good luck to her myspace outta water. So I'm not counting out ream just yet. But yet her her talk with the risk Cox civically what you're saying about her raging her trainer, which got her kicked out of Jim. I think is going to boat. Extremely well. For good TV. I just like this concept of, you know, having to pay the price for a particular archetype paying that invoice like Reema has to pay the invoice for the Lauren Rimmer character that did. So well on here's healers Hustler's. So leeann do you have any overall side for the subtle wackos of it all when it comes to just this group of people? Yeah. I I think like most people when I first heard about the edge of extinction twist. I was like, oh, no. And then. You know, Joe being sort of this scapegoat almost for how this twist who. Go wrong scape. He is the scape jokes of the season. I think that you know, there's obviously sort of this immediate negative reaction. But as I get closer. It's like, you know, what who cares if this is a disaster. It's going to be so much fun to make fun of. And who knows maybe it could workout. Maybe we could see some really fun psychological warfare out on the edge of extinction or island of extinction. Whatever it's called who knows? We'll figure it out. And I'm just going to go into the season being really optimistic for all of our subtle weirdos. I mean, this group actually made me pretty excited. I understand what you mean. Paul with like listening to their interviews. There are some quirky things that some of them say, and they do sort of some of them really get their time in the sun to show off their full wackadoo nece, but I do feel like across the board. This is a fairly mild mannered people. But they're also one of the biggest groups of super fans, I wanna say since we've seen like millennials versus Jake's some the past five seasons or so which is super interesting given the fact that aid the bringing in these former players and be completely throwing in a new twist. That's what they sort of expected with a ghost island. Right. You pass good about a superfan that when they give you one of James's hit it from survivor China to get that camera moment to relish it and say, oh, cool. I've been looking forward to holding this for quite some time. So I do wonder if that's the reason why they did it. But it is interesting to note across the board. You have all these people saying I've been watching since the. The beginning since I was six inside was seventeen. I've applied countless numbers of times doesn't really seem like we have that many recruits here, and I don't know how well that bodes one way or the other in terms of actual good TV because I know that sometimes recruits and people who don't necessarily know the game if bigger it out on the fly and make the most entertaining television and sometimes make pretty damn good players as well. But I think it's a noted trend that exists in this cath, particularly that might separate it from the path that came before it. This is suspiciously. Similar to a concept that I was thinking driver should do. It's called fans versus favorites. Like, you take like you take like favorite contestants. And then you put them against people who know their games and really been on board since the beginning. I think it could go really, well, that's really innovative. I hadn't thought of that. It would be really cool to see a season structured like that. Never seem not before. But I think with this group of players the fact that they all at least have watched the show, I think is really interesting because I think it could make for a good season. Although I think that typically the best cast in my opinion or ones that are pretty diverse until you have a group of both recruits and super players because you know, when you have a lot of super fans people who know how to play the game, they still need some pawns. But you know, who knows I really think the varying degrees of quote unquote, superfan dome within this cast is pretty wide. So I think even though somebody's like, oh, I've been watching from day one that is a little different than someone who really studies the game and is super into it from a analytical perspective, but both to be terrible players both could be wonderful players. So I think that that it'd be interesting to see how that plays out knowing everybody's sort of different levels of fan. And of course, the big factor as well is interesting of a Catholic. This may be it depends on how much we're actually going to see them because of this edge of extinction twist seasons that have had redemption island, which might be the closest comparison to this. New twist notoriously had some pretty unbalanced editing when it came to emphasizing a group of players while simultaneously shunting others to the effort of like when you put them on redemption island, you have to dedicate a course of a segment to them because there's a challenge going on each and every episode, but otherwise you're not really developing many characters they're outside of someone like Matt Elrod whose entire story is based within extinction island. So that's going to be interesting as well. I do wonder how many of these personality is quite honestly are going to be revealed when so much of the story is going to revolve around this new concept in the game. I think I think the one advantage that the that the season has willy of fourteen new players here. You know? You know? So there's I think that gives more opportunity. This isn't a twenty percent cats. I think having a couple extra people definitely gives us a chance to really get to know. Some of these new players. I hope so anyway. Yeah, that's a good point. And I think also maybe that's why we don't have some really strong characters so far because the counting the editors like man, this is gonna be so crazy together. Please give us some duds that we can just throw in the coroner. Maybe that's what we're in for before we get into our usual segments breakdown everything from the preseason. There is the matter of are always tried and true free season predictions. This is going to be different for a myriad of reasons. And to be completely candid the on an I have been talking about it a bit. We still haven't decided how we want to structure these this season Liana. Can you talk a bit about the difficulties the further difficulty? The times that we usually do it that might come with doing predictions this season. Right. So typically the way that these sealed predictions work is we write up a bio forever. A description of how every single person is going to do on the season. And then when that person is voted out we've read that prediction about that person. Here's the kicker with this twist people get voted out, but they don't ever go home, and unlike redemption island, we don't have this. Well, okay, at least if they're going to redemption island, we're going to have one or two people sort of go every week every other week. We have no idea we have eighteen people the whole time. What are we supposed to do with our predictions because we've read them when they get voted out initially. But then what if they come back from the edge of extinction than do we have to have written a second one? And I tried to write an AA that would handle the complexity of the situation, and I am not that smart. So essentially, I have no idea how we're gonna do this. This is kept me up at night too. So I hope you guys this out. So what you're saying is extinction broke, the I think we've finally found a way to break into the singularity and prevent Skynet from taking over. It's a survivor twist. Yeah. Exactly. I I don't know. How exactly we're gonna do? I mean, the thing is we could do. Well, you know, when they when they voted out initially. So I guess what? We're trying to say here is help us. That's so west. Yes. We're lighting a big bonfire for SOS on the island of extinction because we don't know what on earth. We're gonna do. Obviously. We'll figure something out. But any suggestions would be absolutely helpful. Because it broke us. So yeah, I mean, I guess maybe between the three of us. We can throw some ideas as well. And if people online what to respond to us, the hashtag RHA and be to let us know what they think of all right is or if they have suggestions of for what to do on their own. We have a little bit of time to break this down. Obviously before the premiere comes. But we need an idea pretty quickly. So I guess one thing that I can throw out here. Quick and dirty is we can we can just make a singular winner. Pick. Don't bright who might be coming back or anything. And we just write down three things we think this person will do in the game, and they can be as descriptive or as generic as we want them to be that. That's the super like one a one way of doing these predict. That'll have sort of sidestepping the whole edge of extinction debacle. My thought that I had was I just want to do my. I'm going to go back to basics right out of fan fiction of what I think is happening, including let's say, Rick Devon's gets voted out. And then I write that he gets voted out pre merge. I write that he wins the edge of extinction twist thing eat to come back. And then I have a second prediction for him when he gets voted out again. But then I don't know what we would do for actually reading those predictions. But I was just gonna fan fiction the whole thing out and then try to force fit it in the season. What was the weirdest alliance? You hadn't heroes. We drill age goes to Patrick's alliance. Yes. Yes. Just alliance. And then the ghost of Patrick's alliance because obviously that's how it was gonna work. Jeff minutely incorporate that that's my suggestion. That's my tip. And then you shall be specific as possible with any prediction, you do like does really make it. So you can't win the great. That's I don't really need any effort. Apparently. I. Tried my best to win the past three seasons. I even got defeated by the I I was not the extinction twist, I got promptly my Ascott served to me last time during David versus Belyaev. But I guess if I want to even the playing field. This was suggested to me on social media. I can't remember who said it. But you know, what I have I become rather fond of the brand steel as of late. I don't know if the survivor thirty eight cast members are in there. Now, don't believe the edge of extinction has been built into brain steel. But maybe I can throw the castaways into like a redemption island season Isla all simulated, and I'll write down what happens, and we'll see how much matches up. Yeah. Okay. That's totally weird. I don't even know how the. Then you write the prediction when they lose the redemption island duel. I guess so they'll try to retrofit it again, we're taking a bunch of square pegs. We're putting them into various round holes trying to plug this slowly sinking ship. So we're throwing a few ideas out there. I don't know. Paul. Did you have any other bright ideas? I think as long as you're subtle with what you do. You'll be okay. We'll we're we're in trouble. Then. Yeah. This is to be is so subtle, right? Right. I think here's what we should do. We should aim to have a prediction for every single vote off. Yes. Okay. So I don't know how that will work. Maybe that's what we do. You just do your thing. I'll just do. My thing. Make the segment doubles long twice as complicated. You each take your own system. That's what we want. Here we go. So they'll be a battle of not only each other. But also the systems which one will reign. Supreme right. Yes. Everyone loves complicated confusing and confounding systems. I think that this is going to be a winner for short. Like, we've already spent a lot of time discussing how like. How the hell this is gonna work. So clearly ambiguity. Everybody loves it. Well, we'll put a pin in that right now. Again, send us your thoughts about any of these weird things we threw out in the tank if you want to drain it if you want to add more fuel in there. Let us know let let's move away from the hypothetical into the realistic by talking about this season. We have brought back as per usual are three questions three discussion questions about in. This case the preseason of survivor edge of extinction poll as the guest of honor. Let's start with you. What did you bring to the table to discuss about survivor thirty eight? Well, I brought this kind of discussion point with a little bit of a tiny game with it. Because this is the BNB so Liana you Utah to quite a bit about Ron Clark in the beginning of the show. And I have this weird like very distant but weird connection drunk car because school district I work in in the past. Three years sends teachers to the wrong Clark academy. And so I've known this name for for for like three years when I joined the district now. And so like, I've I switched from what I I moved to this district teaching in elementary school. I now moved high school is much more of a elementary school thing. So I was actually slated. I was going to be the next group to go to the Ron Clark academy. But then I moved up to high school. So I didn't get to go, but I have tons of colleagues who've gone who have interacted with him, and I've just heard stories about this whole experience, and there's so much about the wrong car academy that is present in in my school district. So it's like really weird stuff. He's talking I know all about him already. So I want to I kind of talk about your impressions of him and share mind as well. And then I have a little bit of a game that goes with it afterwards. So I'm just curious what you guys think about Ron Clark as he's an interesting fellow. I I did a bit of a chuckle because I thought it I said the wrong Clark academy. In that made me think of like some sort of evil twin brother of Ron Clark called wrong Clark. I don't know. He's he's the opposite of everything wrong. Clark wants to be maybe wrong Clark is how Ronald play survivor get expelled from Ronca cab. You can go to the wrong Clark academy. I think that's the sequel right to the Ron Clark story. It's the Ron Clark star story. Part. Two colon the wrong Clark story. It's the exact opposite. It's a complete full story about him. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, but what do they get Matthew Perry to reprise his role, and then who would be cap because his wrong Clark. Who's the exact opposite of Matthew Perry's? I don't know the exact opposite of Matthew Perry. Very serious sincere. Not sarcastic whatsoever. Crown I will say Sam, Elliot. Great. I'm excited for the recast version. This started this discussion to go, but. Could probably off the rails. And what the first twenty minutes of the BNB shocker. You could do a friend saying, right? You could like I don't know. What about like, not la- blog? He's evil enough. Okay. Need Matthew Perry to play the wrong fairy the row the run Clark? No, oh my gosh. This is Matt Mike. This is all your fault. You started this with the commerce you job at the beginning of this episode. Now, we've gotten all twisted, and we can't get our way out of this position. This is new complicated for me. I just stick to the basic missionaries where long. So on the question about not wrong Clark or Matthew Perrier's Sam Elliott, but Ron Clark. I mean, this is super interesting because this is the first person I can remember in quite some time who has had such a notoriety outside of the show that as much as Ron wants to say games the game. I kill will relish the opportunity that I mean on playing by the rules and deceiving people how he's performing is going to. I think genuinely reflect how he's perceived in the outside world if I may garner. A comparison feeling not since the days of Jimmy Johnson on survivor. Nicaragua. Have we had somebody who has had such a massing for such motivational reasons that have them be on the show? Could I want to say it would be detrimental? But it might change the way they're being perceived. No matter what since he's regarding such a positive light. I know that he says again, he's gonna try to tweet this an isolated incident. But I don't know a believe it when I see it personally. Yeah. I guess that's the thing though. Is that you know, he was sort of constantly saying, but it doesn't matter. He was okay. He with being labeled as a villain. I mean, he was worried that that was going to happen. But he said that it's going to be okay. And so it seemed like he was somebody who was ready to go out and be his aggressive self. And it didn't seem like he had a big concern over his his image outside of the show. So I don't know maybe when he gets out there he'll start to feel differently as soon as he realize, oh, there's cameras here. You know, I really need to sort of maintain my image. But just based on his interviews. It really didn't seem like that was front of fine. Yeah. No, it's interesting with him. And like so some of the things kind of the main things that that teachers take away with go to this academy like is very big on students and teachers jumping up on tables like during instruction. So I'm like, hey is this play is play a role in in. You know, how he interacts with the firm tribal council, perhaps I'm really did have the great game changer. Jennifer lands daddy over stool during survivor code long. I don't know him. Straddle two stools starts bellowing into the audience. Like, you can't vote me out tonight, perhaps he encourages teachers to build a stage in their room. So that they so that teachers and students jump up on the stage that they're heard when they speak. He also creates this whole system of of it models. It's modeled after the Harry Potter house system, where students are randomly sorted into different houses in that team elements of that you are for good things you do that you win points that acu-. Late of for your team or your house? So I'm wondering if that's gonna play a role here. It's coming to houses against each other on survivor. Yeah. We'll we'll he assign points to drive into the other tribe. So wait. So he's gonna run his private like a mix between Harry Potter in dead poets society. Society combined with like hard core. It's concerning that he's not just standing up on the table. Apparently, he likes to jump up on the the whole the whole process. So it's kinda continues to little activity abroad with us is he he talks about this in some of this pre game stuff that he wrote this book, and I've read selections of the book is a lot of teachers in the district having and it's about Ron Clark's essential fifty five so he described as a fifty five rules like in school for students to really help them succeed. So I thought I want you each picked up retreat one fifty five this is a couple times if it's a bus will just do it once and Higgins between one fifty five I'm gonna tell you what that rule is. I want you to see how can that translate to survivor the season, maybe more specifically how that's going to translate to Ron Clark's gate so Mike join pick a number. Absolutely. I love that. We're trying to all ready turn wrong Clark's book into the Boston, rob roll book and safe. It could be retrofitted into. Survivor game. Give me number. You know, what let's hope Ron Clark banked thirty nine days. Gimme number thirty nine. All right, then thirty nine. Okay. This is very specific. But on a field trip complement the place, you're visiting. Okay. No that s pretty it's pretty applicable because the field the wards braver host merge are about making visits to visit various cultural centers, whether it's him dropping off poise for kids, or, you know, attending, a nice nice, gene feast, so Ron we'll go there, and he'll consistently compliment everyone who's there even when he oversteps himself, or you know, if the kids are smoking cigarettes bit too far too close to him. He's he's gonna make sure to be complimentary of the place that he's staying because that's what good teachers do gosh. I was thinking we could put together the team of Ron Clark would do who else would be embassador to go to the school to drop off the things for the kids in whatever. Whatever location. We're in now. Of course. Yes, she's a gym teacher. So I think she has experienced. You've got a number for me between one and fifty five six day rule. Number six if you're asked a question in conversation, ask a question return drive. Totally tribal council grows. There was a lot of discussion on your tribe today seem to create a lot of tension. Well, Jeff, that's a great question. Now. What would you think about all of the tension? That was being created like, Nope. Jeff's gonna none of that. Jeff assault facial rule. Number six creates a black hole where they just keep asking questions back and forth at each other. Until the space time continuum eventually collapses in on. Like a good run. That's what the edge of extinction means. Oh, good. Other ones. Yeah. A gimme number seventeen. Number seventeen. Subject. Transitions will be subject like like a subject in school subject. Transitions will be swift quiet and orderly. Hey, I guess maybe if he's talking about changing alliances because you know, there are different different subjects different conglomerates of things to study. And so when you're flipping to an alliance or your creating a new froth cluster or voting block to make sure that it is quiet that nobody knows about it is orderly. Everyone knows what pays better on. And they know what. Specifically exactly who their voting for nice, Ana. Nine rule. Number nine, always say, thank you. When given something. Thank you for bringing this game thing for us to do. All you be great on the island. Let's show for the one where each Mike what he got. I'll do number. How does he forty six? Go with forty six through forty six. No. This would not be good some past several wards here. No talking in a movie theater during a movie. John. Talking movie. Disrespect that reams like thing about how she was kept talking about how no one can kicks kids out of the living room if they're like talking during survivor. Yeah. Exactly. So maybe Riemann Ron could be like, the the the chaperones the movie night survive. Or maybe this is talking about tribal councils been referred to before eater. It could be referred to as a movie that you're also taking part in. Maybe he could be shushing people that are whispering to each other Shishir. Already. What's your last one forty two number forty two when returning from a trip shake the hands of every chaperone? So is he gonna go around and shake all the hands of the crew? It's going to be frowned. That's breaking the fourth wall. Little too much. So. It could it could be with Jeff maybe like instead of the shock Abro. Maybe you're gonna you're gonna try to get a handshake. And by the end Jeff's like, no, I just wish asking me questions. Stop asking for my handshake. I don't like you anymore on. I wish you would have picked a roof. If team do not ask for a reward. What you're playing Jeff. We do not know according to a central rule fifteen I will not ask for this for wards. May I shake your hand though? Enough for me. And it was a question. So girly essentials, boom, boom waiting visitor. There. Any other notable ones? Oh this stuff about facing four run a bus. So maybe I'm thinking about like, you don't want to medical -mergency of like, you know, like last season as one really make sure you're facing forward. I like number twenty seven do not stare at a student that is being reprimanded. So maybe getting it from Jeff just don't don't make eye contact copay. This is this other teachers so another teacher is reprimanding a kid don't look at the kit. No, this is this is for a student like Liana class and the teacher, given it to you. I do not look at you. I look somewhere else. Like, I'm I don't draw attention to the fact that you're getting it than there. Yeah. So yeah, I just I'm gonna be interested to see how he does. Because I I've I've known a lot of people have gone to the academy and they've been in sessions with him because the way it works is there's certain days, the Retha they opened up the school to visitors hundreds of thousands of teachers that come through, and they watch model lessons than Braun. The etiquette has other people works with them to the kind of have workshops and stories of. Yeah. I check my apple watch. When when I was in the middle of his session, and he stopped talking and looked at me and said, I'm sorry. Do you need to be somewhere? I've just heard many that he's very very intense person. So it'll be very interesting to see I was expecting him to be more alpha and more kind of in the, you know, more high strung in his interview, but he seems to be at Lisa's interviews was pretty calm. But yet he didn't make some mention of of of, you know, his family saying you're gonna come on to your to strong too fast. So to see what he does. Maybe the reason why he was so communist interviews because nobody was looking at their watch while they were doing him. Yeah. I don't think I don't think she was wearing a lodge. I don't know was to scold, but don't look at them. Don't look don't look at that. Well, let let's dive into talking about not only Ron but his seventeen compatriots on survivor edge of extinction. Let's go to an tradition here on the being be every season are survivors superlatives. So for those that might not remember this. We've created a list of superlatives. Those that might not know what those are those are things like, you know, things you might get in high school like most likely to succeed, a best hair, etc. Over applying them to survive or we're going to try to guess the preseason perspective based solely on the materials. We've been given who we think is most into each superlative. And we'll see by the end of the season. How we did. I do have some from last season that we can reflect back on as well where we get into just want issue a quick disclaimer. If anybody is out there be you a player or fan, and you listen to these and you take some umbrage with what we said about you. I do. Sincerely, apologize. These are taking off of fifteen minute conversations with Josh and ten minute conversations with the risk Cox. So we'll making some assumptions in. I am more than happy to be wrong. As I have been on many many occasions here on the BNB. So let's start things off with one that I think we've had every single time we've done this. And it's most likely to get a hashtag I. We've done away with hashtag showing up on the screen anymore. But I think this is more. So are like basically the camera hog award for most likely to really pop on screen just to give some context as to what we said last season Liana came right out of the gates with really fantastic pick saying miss being to win would be most likely to get because he was hashtag, bee's knees or something. Okay. Credit than I deserve. But yes, Paul you send Mike white. And I said the mayor of flam town we all swung and missed on the big old Christian ball. That was coming our way. Let's see if we can hopefully redeemers on that success or at poll who you think is most likely to get a hashtag out of this group. I mean, it sounds a little bit boring because we know the personal ready. We can pay returning players, right? Yeah. I trust away from this on some of these. They want to talk about other ones. Like, my my first instinct was like, Wendy because she's wacky. But I think realistically, I think Aubrey knows how to talk knows how to get the sound by knows how to make all these different comparisons and metaphors and whatnot. So I think aubrey's is going to roll the screen again this season. What other what other metaphors do you think she might pull out with the well, maybe if she's looking at the people around her it'll be something like this is like I'm like standing on the. Table in the middle of school. And I'm being reprimanded. And no one wants to look at me like that that's going to be trying to you know, bring Ron and under. We should just rerate all of these Pearl. It is to be what Ron Clark would have for supreme most likely to stand on table. Ron Clark most likely to ask Clark. Okay. So for my most likely to get a hashtag, which is a stupid category. Agreed. We should rewrite it. I said Chris Underwood because I very much not. Although they show the same name, Kris noble vibes. Then officiates type stuff from him. So I could definitely see Chris. Chris was honestly the surprise of the preseason for me. I mean, maybe it was me judging book by its cover by just sort of looked him like, okay sales guy from South Carolina seems relatively normal. But like, I know he was Josh's last interview. He had a great interview with the risk. He was just so energetic. And so at the same time, he's the guy was like, yeah, I'm gonna play the perfect gave essentially created like a chi- Mira out of all these other parts of other people's games. And he was just talking mile a minute. He was also talking up his own personality. I totally got the crystal vibes agree on about him simply talking up his good looks. So I think he he really surprised me between you know, what you look at from a bio perspective, and when you actually see from him. Yeah. My notes I have Chris most surprising contestants like same reaction. I had exactly versus like, oh, he's like JP Hilsa Beck of the season. But then as you kept talking what are you even talking about? Because he's like, yeah. I'm going to bring yet this season. What death and then? His quote about failure is the entities of playing the perfect game. Is just something I'm gonna cross stitch into a pillow because it's like, okay, buddy. Yes. I was a love like I don't think we've had any other person won't in quote, not T O S, but memes from s. Paul. We might be a couple of season removed from people walking in and doing memes from the survivor historians. Yeah. Totally. For someone to be like, I don't wanna be a, gene. That's all. I want only God that would be that'd be a win for you guys. I think but Chris may not be the person to do that. But you never know if so many quote unquote super fans season. So I personally went with Chris down as well. And I had Aubrey down to I'm thinking about wacky, Wendy, but I stayed away from her to AIBA with miss Aurora. Mccreary ironing lime super intrigued by Aurora. I'll admit there are certain Karinna 'isms in her specifically this element of like brutal honesty, but I feel like she does bring some sentimentality to it. I think she she also admits to being open and blunt and honest, and I feel like it's that that ability to just I don't know really going on somebody I'm assuming he's going to do a lot of that in confessional. And that might provide the tubby the lunchbox category in terms of just ragging on her fellow competitors in private, of course, I actually had a Rura as well. Because I think that she some do. Yes, said she's totally fine with being the villain. And she said, I think in her bio that she likes or thought she was most like Sierra for her attitude and foot in mouth moments, which I thought was great among some other. Residents. But she also said for one of her pet peeves was knows coming from the mouth. So like. Oh, no. You all better be silent. While I'm here. I swear to God. Between our air is a comsumer, tribe and. Wrong. Clark is Ron's on Russia's. She's on talking. And no, I contact is going to be great. I call this. A roar central fifty six not talking no sound for now from the camera people. Maybe that's go spent so much time on the extinction islands because the common tribe is just going to be a tribe of mute people just looking down as they gather firewood three ending on the shelter. Questions through sign language. Maybe. All right. Let's move on here. Let's go to the flip side from the edit perspective most likely to get a purple edit a tremendous vote we put for DV hall. You spark the whole Natalia debate that took up a good shank of our podcast last time, saying the tally purple edits Liana, you said Keira, and I will make the combo of B, and Jessica I would just Pat myself on the back right there. And it is success. I will know. I'll go first on this one because it's interesting that you said JP hills APAC before Liana area seems like a totally nice guy. But he doesn't even have the same vocal tics as our beloved P. But I don't know if it's just like, the very nice firefighter aspect of it all, but but he was the first person. I thought of. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I I sure had him as the GP the Brennan Shapiro this season. He even when he said, he was like, I think Orissa ask you what makes you unique. Well, pretty normal guy. I don't know. Okay. So you're going to be super exciting. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite thing about Eric. And no fits if you're listening. But there was one point when Orissa was asking. Okay. Have you learned to make fire and Eric says that he watched one YouTube video how to make fire that was three and a half minutes long, and he fast forwarded through most of the middle because he got bored like Eric. That's the most important part. You know, you you don't need to know the final product and the starting product there's a lot of between. That's going to be involved in terms of making fire come to life. I think he's another example this subtle like he's kind of at first glance kind of a snore. Just kind of like oh Qaeda then like he has some stuff like that or awake. When he said that he was allergic to air again people and she asked him about that are sort of Joshua's who camera who was who asked him about that. He was like, well you have to put something on the. Allergies. And he tells the story about like never movie once this girl said, I'm allergic to dancing, so dancing. My parents. So see subtle kind of endearing. Don't be funny quality about. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is when I compared JV I love JP so much damning with Fengyang. Right. Exactly. And honestly to be boring is probably a great thing in real life. If you are boring on a reality TV cast. So in addition to Eric I also had Julia as somebody who I thought might get a promote it because she's just so nice and seems like such a great person. And I think she could end up being a narrator on the season. But the flip side, I could also see her as somebody who just doesn't get a lot of airtime because there's you know, she doesn't really have that. Like one singular crazy standout moment. I similar concerns with her. I think the strongest anxious going for is like you said, she has a potential to be a narrator, and she can be go-to person to explain things. I don't think there's necessarily anything about her. That's like super quirky or eccentric. She's just pretty middle of the road, well-spoken smarts woman. So I can definitely your your concern there. I had Julia down to just because I think in the stuff that I reviewed. She obviously has this really heartbreaking story about losing her father too young age, and how survivors sort of help ridge her gap from a maturity perspective to get her and to help her get closure and help her grieve properly that sort of the only thing I got from her. Unfortunately from a personality perspective says like, I'm a natural people person. I'm an open book and relatable. And this is my last hurrah before Mets will a personality perspective like you said before Paul. There wasn't anything else that really stuck out to him to like really quirky moments that can go one of two directions, as you mentioned might make her a very reliable level headed person that can narrate a lot of what's going on. Or it could mean that she gets relegated to more of the chaff positions. Other fireworks are going off a round her. Then Eric will be there to put out the fire. You know, a whole purple entity. I know how a fire starts I know how to put it out. But like what do I do in between fast forward through that part? Yeah. Well, maybe it was he one of the ones who didn't seem to have maybe less of a soup quote unquote superfan because if you didn't get the surround, and drown Jeremy maybe he might not know how to do it. Yeah. He was the one who when they did the quiz. What's your favorite says? It goes. Survivor thirty eight and then that was it. Yeah. The answer of like who's your favorite or like, what player are you like no one like, I'm I'm my own person. Although I will I have to talk about this quick because I love that Joe Aubrey Kelly and David three of the four of the put themselves as the player there. Most like and Joe put Kim Spradlin. Then makes me believe actually in this cockamamie idea that I have that Joe England was able to make his own angle or England to switch bodies with Kim Spradlin before going on the island because he wants to make sure he wins this. Okay. So this is like freaky Friday meets the wrong Clark story in the fact that Ron Clark is also there is there is the crossover movie between Frikkie frightening. You wrong. Klerk story where I don't know of Joe tricked him or if he asked her kindly, maybe she needed some time away from her kids. You know, a nice vaca-, but they switch bodies and Kim not really getting herself into the Joey amazing frame of mind. Maybe that's why she got the mustache because she thought you know, what? Now that I have none of them inside this big manly bodied. Let me do something fun with it. I've never been able to grow facial hair before. And so she just sort of like didn't realize that wrote down Kim Spradlin as the player that you're most like, and now that draws a lot of conserving the mustache disguise. They'll never recognize me. Did you have any thoughts about not not the kids? Proudly showy amazing. Freaky, Friday, but purple purple. Yeah. I'm gonna leave at fury's. Think kind of speaks for itself. I actually think in a similar sense to Julia not getting substance. I didn't get that much from Lauren. And I felt like she just said all the right things about being an athlete, and how this is just graduated from college. And I can just see you're being the bikini bay that doesn't actually talk on the Schober much. I could see Lauren actually being those that narrator role as well. It seems like Jeff really loves Lauren. I don't remember if he made her is winner pick. But he did say like she's one to look out or so I wonder if that means that the show is gonna concentrate a lot on her, and she just had this idea of like she wants to what the the competitiveness from the soccer field with the bubbliness from the social environment with the brains from her college career. So we'll see if that's mixture that, you know, at least I actually really liked her. I know that she's young she's twenty one. So she's not well wall. But still, you know, she just graduated college seven days before going out there to play. But I think that she is somebody who could really fall under the guidance of. I don't know maybe a returning player. And and really play the game. Well, and I think she's somebody who could really succeed. So I think I could see you're probably falling more under. Yeah. The sort of maybe narrator role. Apart from the fact that she was very discriminatory against people who chose twizzlers over red vines and for the next season of survivor twizzlers versus red vines versus Hershey's chocolate. You know, not all like really get into some hot water. But otherwise, I like her. Would two tribes be colored red in that season. Ooh. Yeah. That's a good question. That would be terrible. But well to a little bit Hinkle so a red pink versus a deep red. So then you can tell the difference very subtle, very subtle. All right. Let's move on here most likely to lip who's gonna be our major flippers on this twist worthy season. Last time. I went with devilish Davey Leon. You went with the popular choice of Natalia and Paul you chose eventual winner Nick Wilson Liana who from this past most likely to flip. Okay. I wrote I wrote Keith so little keys. I love him first of all. But I'm just so nervous for him out there. He talked about. Oh, I know I'm young I'm nineteen. I wanna play different than the other people who have been young who played before me like well, both those people may jury so Melissa nervous about what exactly that means. And I think what it could lead to is flighty game play. And that goes with flipping to you know to another group of people. I thought about Keith as well. My only thing is that Keith was talking about like, I wanna be everyone's younger brother, you know. He really wants to play up that yes-men number two role. I feel that separates from someone like will who was like most medical move. I will do it. Now, I mean control of my own destiny. So I wonder if Keith might be one of those Villalonga is who gets taken out because the other lines was aiming for his number one ally. But he got hit dune idle players younger brothers flip flopping all over the place. None. What do you think Paul? I was I was trying to think if I want to change north thing I'm gonna stick by Mr. jump on the table himself. Ron clark. I just think he's following his own essential fifty one limp. So that you will never have regrets. I just think of anyone he's probably the most likely to flip for the sake of flipping like a just naturally going to be the most aggressive in terms of gameplay considering what he said his pre-game stuff. So that's probably where mistake is that is that one of his rules? Yeah. That was all the way. Well, I mean, listen if he's jumping around why not put some other gymnastics in there. That's true hard. Also, like do rap isn't nobody told Josh incorporate rap into Tj he'll be like as he's teaching kind of breaks into a rap about like long division or something like that. Like, actually the action. That's remains Ono God sorry for opening up. This actually the first time I had ever heard of him before I was even working in this district was he had a group of kids on some like morning network television show, and they were singing for one of the election. They were all singing you could vote. However, you like to the tune of what set rats on you can have whatever you like, exactly. And so that's when I I like canoe who knew he was was doing that stuff. So he does a lot of like singing Rafic in that kind of stuff. Oh, I cannot wait for the collaboration between Ron Clark in Bryce Isaiah after the season hearing, Kris noble. I'm gonna download that like three times. Yeah. Oh my goodness. So I can totally see that too. I think the fact that he said that he's an aggressive person and really wants to play totally lends itself to flipping. But the other thing I was thinking about was when he said that he's really good at creating a family atmosphere. I got for quick second in my mind like coach in South Pacific. Can you imagine if Ron Clark built his own little academy of Ron Clark's? And then they like run the game somehow. And then maybe he gets, you know, at the end he loses. But that's something else that I could see if he doesn't flip. I could see this family like mentality sort of being creative. So I personally went with most likely to flip. Gimme newlywed Gavin just because Gavin made frequent references to like, they might think I'm just the genteel southern guy, but I actually have a brain behind this, and he made frequent references to j t something tells me he's going to appear like JT one point zero. But he's going to play like JT two point. Oh, and JT three point which is to say gives no Fs behind the scenes, and we'll just cut your throat when you Lisa special. Yeah. He needs his Stephen, I could I totally see that too. So whatever I think of Gavin the only thing I think of is him saying my wife because. That's what I heard which to fair. Josh asked him a luck about his laugh. And so that's all I think about so maybe without his wife there to sort of keep him. You you could this idea a much funnier way than my notes marriage. Sing is getting old. Not. But he's he's talking to tell people about his wife. I really was aware really want. I want her to him to make the family visit for so many reasons, but for Jeff to say like. Gavin. You wanted to see Joe come on out radish? But okay. Keep working but use an interesting when I absolutely love just listened to the first one interviews, and is really kind of you can hear how people pick up on social cues and how they are. And with him. I was picking on a subtle way. That I didn't feel like he was always the most active listener and the end his is repeating the same thing again. And sometimes it was like, it was clear clear to me listening that like the next social step would be key Josh's is going to insert something here, and he would keep going with what he was saying it would sometimes kind of keep talking over. What would Josh was getting yet? So I am a little concerned that that he may have fewer problems in the social department that he'd like to think. I didn't pick up on it. But now that you say that that's probably why I kept hearing the same things over and over and over again mocking about what did you hear? Sorry, been my wife. I'm sorry. I do love Gavin. I'm actually really excited to see him play. And I just I just because I kept hearing that so many times that's all the second of my brain. You know, when you're trying to remember these little things about people, I have like superfan, Nick archetype. My wife is like the two notes that I have written down. I'm actually really excited to see him interact with some of these other cast mates because I think he's particularly entertaining. He falls under also my sort of these subtle weirdos. And I think he could have an interesting run on the show. I think I owned that tank top. He's wearing a lot of his intervals. Okay. I didn't pull this comment. Spoiler alert from the Facebook page. So his video was posted. And someone said his wife left him with that. Oh boy. I'm taking visit to my worship after this podcast. Now, I have been through Gavin's conduit. I've been judged based on my wardrobe choices by the survivor casual community. Yeah. That happens a lot. All right. Let's move on here. Most likely to start a podcast, and if we are so inclined what that podcast might be about hall who do you have here. Is it the wrong Clark pug, it could be a central wrong or something he marry half's in the answer? I'm not sure. No. I'm going to give this Todd cast to one of the kind of entrepreneurs on the season who works from home and works being creative. And I'm gonna have podcast called truly Julie and Julia is gonna podcast about some little bit like shoot talked about those or organic or on the what what kind of how you describe the toys. She makes and sells what didn't like what. What words w Kiko wife would echo frontier. K bentham. And to me, she seems like a very interesting person. And I kinda wanna go back and listen to Semper stuff because she was the first one I really research on and I feel like she just kind of has a call presence about her. She can have kind of a chill. Interesting podcast. The weird thing about her is like I'm really hoping that I like her because I want to cheer minds of this crazy woman, I had classes in college who like this whole this could be its own podcast. We tell the story about half this lady. But she's about the same age as Jewish look like, Julie and EKO friendly wooden toys this lady I had cost with was really into making. In the shoe it at a blog about it or something about EKO friendly, sex toys, and so another parallel here and things just got really weird with this leaves the point where she thought the government was filling her having sex in just was like it turned really weird fast with this one. So that's why at least call it. Now that that Jews gonna have a very interesting podcast, not want imagine. What hundred might be like if this is the product. They're filming me. Yes. Julie. That's the show. That's what it's about Julie's out there with her. Tinfoil hat on juvenile Kama Sutra tribes. I guess I guess that's the thing. I hate I really liked her. I think it was funny that she told the story about peeing in bushes. So of course, that's what I wrote in my notes Peden bushes full nation point because I really latch onto the critical things you need to know about a player, but I would listen to her about gas. It's interesting. She used to be a teacher run Clark academy. Two point. Oh is coming. Around the merger recruit might be joy super interesting because I agree Paul total calm presence. Even though she probably is the most out of her element here. Like, she even admits like I've watched couple of YouTube, videos, and unlike other people I didn't fast forward through them. You know, I don't really have much outdoor experience. I feel like there's a good chance. She's gone pretty quickly. But she seems so pleasant I just I'm so intrigued to see like how what a toy maker will do with the concept of fake idols as well. Oh, yeah. If she could get the fake, I don't making kit that could be we can actually see a true thing of beauty unless unless you can only make like trains and soldiers those overly look like idols. Well, you never know all the idols look like trains the season would have. Would've thought he edge of extinction? If only they use the the tribal councils from thirty five which was the train tracks, actually, see. Okay. So for I had most likely to start podcast. This is a very specific idea that pops into my head. So this is of course, teacher Ron Clark and firefighter Aaron haven Hoffman, whatever in it's called fighting fire with fire, and it's a podcast about various competitive activities in their rivalry with each other. And so they talk about Nakal you and all that stuff and how Eric you know, they try to make fire and how he forwarded through it. But then he put it out. And I think the two of them could be really fun. Interesting. Are you sussing out like a rivalry between them or just they'll make good podcast co host? I think they would make the podcast co host. But yes, sure, maybe they'll have a rivalry. I dunno rent my traditions yet. Thank you the idea. So I went with someone who does a lot of talking for his career. Anyway, a gimme a subscription to Rick's clicks where Rick Devon's decides to review the websites that he recently went onto. I'm glad you pick another word that rhymes Derick. Nope. That's that's that's the territory of that woman. You know, that's a lot like Julie. I mean. Yeah, Rick is very he's an affable personality. He was shown he was me Mable or months talking about bussing into this show like Kool aid mad. I think that clearly he has the gift of gab see also seems very self conscious about you know, the method that he's entering the way that he looks keeps talking about his dad Bod. I'm hoping he does well because he's he's an awesome personality. And I'm hoping that he is able to like you say like really blend in with the other bro or mucho guys. He can sort of be their friend, but not necessarily be the alpha who gets targeted early. Yeah. I expected to find him annoying. I did not. And I was very pleasantly surprised. I actually really like Rick. I don't know. Maybe I find his news anchor voice comforting in some way. I also loved him. He was like, yeah. I've got two kids two dogs two cats and a wife was like close a why? And then. Yeah, when he wrote that he is claim to fame rescued a cat snuck up on a trios like you, and Eric maybe he needs to get on the podcast air can rig or Ron whatever his name is. So yeah, I'm excited to have. I would love to see spot Calcio. What do you think about rape, Paul? Yeah. I think I think very much similar shortly on was saying I expected myself to be more of him that I was and I really liked him and price on the cast that could probably relate to the most. So there's a lot of time. It was my dream to be a newscaster. So there's there's a part of me that identifies with with Rick. So we'll see what he can do. All right. Let's move on. Here. We spoke about the possibility of Julie constructing a Thomas the tank engine fake idol. But let's go to this suppressive most likely to find a fake idol. This is the J start memorial award for most likely to find a fake idol think it's real ends up playing it and gets eagle over their face, obviously with someone like David ripe playing you know, there is a high possibility of this occurring. Paul who's your pick for most likely to find a fake idol gonna say shooting countdown together three two one all shout, Eric 'cause I just feel like Eric's going to do it like he's he has that it'll be charm to him and doesn't seem like the show like super. Well. So I challenge you to to find a better pick. Yeah. I was in a hidden and sort of a similar vein. I was gonna say Chris in the data that led him to it. You know? Oh, what's that? I don't know. And then Chris plays it. I could definitely see that. Opening I'm gonna go a little bit unconventional here. Gimme big Wendy. Ooh. That Wendy is super bubbly and so much fun, obviously sticks out like a sore. Thumb just the hair alone. But I wonder if it's a thing where like she does seem like super friendly to the point where she might get convinced to do something that she doesn't necessarily should be doing. So like if someone really wants to burn her they could give her a fake idol, and she could end up playing only for tobacco on her completely. Unfortunately, I could see that happening. I think windy, unfortunately, suffers from the fact that we don't have a lot of other really strong personalities on this season. And so I think not definitely puts her at a disadvantage because she is just so energetic. And so so much energy. I mean that really is windy, and so I think that that could work the her detriment, but if she is super energetic than we could see her laying balls the walls plan all those fake idols that could definitely be something. She would do she did say one of her hobbies was getting into shenanigans and playing a fake idol. I think qualifies as a shenanigan. Absolutely. We think do we think poll that after she gets? She plays for time on survival. Schilling out her own pop culture parody close around the game. And we'll see Bs take action as a result. I mean, I hope so I love dollar descriptions of the types of clothing, she makes and she was so she was so interesting like I wonder if I think she definitely has potential to be someone who like for me and probably prime that sounds like both you're in the same boat like Azure, listing doers. She's so unique and quirky that you are drawn in. So you really are trying to figure out what she site what she's all about. But I think there's a high potential there that either one of people get annoy which I think there's a possibility there or two if there are people are not willing to really like get sucked in by her energy like. She also was the other one noted with some social cues about fact that she was dropping the name of bell. Like Josh supposed to know what bell was come from the the small town of bell. And it was like it took a long time for heating came to the fact. Okay. Yeah, we're talking southern California here or like that. She was worse the place that she her mom were the swamp Miller won't swat swat swat me me. Not miss womp mill Kennedy swamped mill down. So that's pretty bad. But like it just was like shit judge like, wait. What what is that? She says it keeps on know. Like, what is that? Like, so I just think like there is a potential that if she someone who really draws people in our so into of final more about her that it could work, but it is a very high early potentials. I don't know if she'll be around long enough to find that fake guide on like, I don't know. Does she have it this? You have a Saab story where people don't want to send her back to the swamp mill if she gets voted out. Swats waamp meet swap meet swap meets or I prefer slump mill. Swap meets. Okay. I listened to however, many interviews videos with her, and I now just know that it is swap meet meets what did you have? No idea of meets. What is the swap meet where you swap meet? Oh. But. That's that's. Who's podcast particular woman said of toys, we'll do pretty well to swap me. You'll find out on truly Julie. All right. Let's move into some that are more specific to this particular season, we have extinction island, and we know that eventually at some point in time unknown about the castaways and us someone's going to be coming back at least once most likely to win their way back into the game via extinction island, just like Paul set with the fake idol. I feel like we could do the countdown three to one and Joe slash Kim. Yeah. Or coast Brad glam if we want to go with that. But yeah, I mean, a lot of people are speculating that this is something to to really help Joe's game. If he spends the entire time on station island consider that, you know, he's a pretty buff guy who does particularly well in these balance beam challenges and the whole Girona wait at cetera. It seems like you said up pretty well for this. Right. There's no Keith nailed to take him down. There is a key. That's right. Yeah. I mean, I had Joe or Ozzie swims his way back to the islands and somehow wins his way. It was not Joe it's mostly. Point your point. Joe it's just live happily out on the island of extinction. Like, just go. Let him you know, like, oh, Joe. He's just gonna have fun out there. So maybe they don't let him back into the game. Maybe he just wants to stay. So instead of Earl named exile island Earl island instead of Joe island. It could be the archipelago and it's just a series of islands Galvin's about. That's exactly what it is. So otherwise, I actually Lauren with somebody who's stood out to me who could be a really strong competitor. But vision one athlete. Yeah. She's a D one athlete. But I don't think that she is going to be voted out. So then I wrote Lauren, wait. No. I don't think she's going to be voted out. So, but if she does I say Lauren, well, thank you for that peek behind the curtain Liana. You're welcome. Did you have anyone else? Besides Joe in terms of someone who might do. Well, I mean Joe could win his way back twice. But you think anyone else Santa chain on extinction Kelly as well think is is could be potential. I think she is fairly well suited in a lot of challenges. Maybe a Rura seems like she's kind of a B. So is this kind of it's hard because you can't always see on paper who was like a really good at these random survivor challenges. And I think because we know how Joe does that we just that's just the obvious take care. It's interesting not to deviate too much in terms of, you know, bringing back these four returnees even David was speculating like why these or the more I thought about it the more. I realized that these are kind of if you think about a group of the most famous aces that represent the thirties. The most recent group of seasons, you know. You know, these poor would definitely be on the list. There are some other people that you can definitely add on there. But I feel like all four of these people at least bait enough of a name for themselves or even if it's random but coming back for this particular season, their names reputation sort of speak for themselves, but you can't necessarily say about other people have come back to play. Okay. Wait. Sorry. What? No, just because I there was a lot of grousing when the castles announce about like why is Joe back? He doesn't fit in amongst the Kellyanne the Aubrey and the day because they're big strategists. And I think if you think less about the game play aspect and more about like, you know, someone who is notable in the franchise who's played in the past three years, or so then that makes sense more in terms of I think it was it was a pretty good test for me when the when they were spoiled, however long ago last year that they were coming back. I think I like my brother who is he summer between a casual superfan in the fact that he knows his show. Really, well, but doesn't isn't locked into every podcast, and that type of thing I kind of ask him like, okay. Two guys two girls coming back, and I kind of gave him some parameters and did not take him while come up with these four. It was like maybe one other person Italy is just it kinda was the watch ical for people and those representation tuned from we go from twenty nine thirty thirty two. Two thirty three. I kinda liked that chronicle chronology there. Well, I think those when you only have four returning players they really need to be people who you would recognize. And so I think that this group afford totally makes sense from that perspective. All right. Speaking of returning players. Let's move into this next superlative most likely to work against a returning player. We talked a bit about some people that might fall under their wing but much rarer among them are the contestants who say screw these turning players. I'm not with you. I'm against you. We oughta who among these new players, or I guess you could put a returning player as well is most likely to to turn against the returning players as a self hating returning player that could very easily be someone like David right to be totally say that I actually had Ron Clark because he same say, I think he even said he wanted to bring a returning players to make them the target as one of the people that are things that he would bring to the island. There's no room in the Ron Clark academy for attorney players. For me. It was thought of like g again like you said Paul like of thority, and I believe he's older than all of the returning players. I mean when you're older than David, but I feel like he could be in a situation where he's like, I'm not gonna let these people Leamy around and tell me what to do, you know, I I made a name for myself in my own style of leadership. I'm going to show them what I'm capable of. And he'll get in a lot of hot water as a result. Now, he does have as central twenty five to greet visitors and make them feel welcome. Stabbed them in the back. Right. Was the second the closet underneath that. Yeah. Sorry. That one didn't go with Ron Clark. Healy who's on top of my list. What was someone? We haven't talked about yet, which is the war dog. And the reason with him is because odyssey he talks a lot. And so it was like I got I got the gist of him. But there was some things that I really like that he said that kind of showed like a larger understanding of the game one of them being like I really liked what he had to say about. Whether he wanted to be a legend or a winner, and that Hugh much be a winner. So that kinda shows that he's not necessarily worried about like learning reputation for taking out a fan favorite that. He's he's doesn't care about that. Eventually really to understanding of like if you win Lee gave you deserve to win. You know, it's not about the audience. It's more about the people you're playing with. So that kinda lead me to say that I could see him going head to head with a with one of these returning players. Yeah. I get to do the board. Doug is super interesting to me. I really can't get a grasp on his personality because I mean, maybe like you says it's the optics of everything, but he really has that particular Tony looking like persona like I'm gonna play up. The gesture and not really look for idols the first couple of days. It's like I dunno. Tony had his own gesture like qualities whether intentional or unintentional. It's still kind of harkening back to that original source and also people are going to assume you're looking for idols because you're comparable to Tony. Why not look for idols? You know, you're you're already being labeled with that. You might as well, you know, a double down on actually start looking for some of that could save you. Yes. But he brings a certain sex appeal that men his age haven't had for over a decade or most have never had on why that was his description of why he'll be the sole survivor. He was really interesting to me because I think yes. Because of the optics I had a certain view of him while I was watching is video with Orissa. But then when I was listening to him with Josh I was just thinking God, this guy is so intense. I don't know how that's gonna work out on the island. But I could see him definitely trying to play aggressively and target some of these returning players. Yeah. I mean, he also has had a super story life. His life story is extremely captivating. Maybe he should get Matthew Perry store and poor talk movie as well between like joining the army and then going to play poker full time in Vegas for two years. Now, he's in law school like he's living extremely story life and only thirty eight years of age, and I wonder if that's giving him a certain confidence about himself that he will bring into his tribe where even again, if people have a wealth of experience in survivor, I think has a wealth of life experience that might him sort of elevated status and gonna make an interesting character. Right. Let's move on here in honor of the great Christian hubadoo, the most likely to talk someone to death in a challenge. Superlative whole who do you have? I wanna stick with the word on this just simply because his interviews were long videos were long, and he kinda just had a way of the way he talks narration and giving extra details. I've thought maybe when f first, but honesty, like hers, I kinda short and terse like it was kind of like just a burst of energy Shanna stops talking in weights prompted again, whereas Wardag was the one most likely to carry on an extended conversation without being stops. So I said Rick because he's a news anchor. So his job is literally having to talk. But now that I realize that you have to be brief, I guess as a news anchor. You don't spend a lot of time punting about extra things. So maybe it could be Gavin. Because maybe also he won't hear when other people are giving him social cues that it's no longer his time to talk about whatever specific topic. It isn't a hill. Just keep going. Let me talk to you about the third date with my wife. Oh, it was glorious. The sun was shining. It was April twenty third. It was the best date. So I went with I think the one player left who we haven't talked about yet. I had David has an option there just as he does. Maybe it's just the Christian comparison. But he could definitely talk up a storm. I went with Victoria, because Victoria is someone who is extremely complex just between like, you know, she's a waitress, but she was the valedictorian of her college. And she she probably is the most prepare the stone cold opposite of someone like, Eric. I didn't really need to prepare much G like studied all this stuff. She read through mountains various journals as like how much dietary what a diet should go on before going onto survivor. I feel like she just has a lot of knowledge in that big old red headed brain. She's just ready to let spill out in any point in time to drive someone to drop off during an endurance challenge. Yes. She always talks about doing her homework. So she could just, you know, recite some of her homework, and I'm sure that would last very long time. I could I definitely see Victoria doing that. Yeah. I really like to toria. I think I think like you said she's very complex with the things that she talks about and that she sees well prepared, but for me, just like the good looking at her and watch the video she seems way younger than she actually is like when I look at her, and when I hear talk I would not have been shocked. She's like nineteen like she's like really young contestant. So wonder if that's gonna play a factor, but I don't really have anything negative to say about her. I hope for family. Visit is her Guinea pig peeve. Just to see what that would have been like. Oh, yes. Her pets. He. Get it. That's why listen woman who loves word play is someone going to love the survivor contestant. So I cannot malign her too much. She says he can eat pig named scam who is her inspiration. Poor poor peeve in the blunt end of the stance. I got another favorite child. But I do have a favorite Guinea pig. It's sick. Oh. His name was stick scam. Oh, the why substan-? Why substan- we can get her NEW GUINEA pig? We've named anything yet. We have to pronounce it. Gavin like way. All right. Let's talk about our superlative here the jacket eight award or most likely to leave someone in the cold after getting voted out in the nine someone that nice warm piece of clothing that they have been seeking or quite some time Liana who's your pick. No. I said Aurora. She's a lawyer like nothing else needs that. I did not sign. Take the jacket ago. Did you sign a pre NUP? Nope. Rura? I like I like a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Same. I wrote down. I also went with war dog. I feel like we're dog could be somebody like I served in the army with less you'd be fine. And then just walk off. I said, maybe if she gets like, you know, kind of freaks out like she did on her at her trader, but I like the violent erotic. Let's see if there's anything in the Ron Clark rules about possessions here. Let's see history really do with the classroom lost and found sear. If you do not win do not brag. If you lose do not show anger. So that that does kind of fall into that do not. In line lose do not hoard jackets. I I don't know if that the seer after dining in the cafeteria or elsewhere be responsible for your trash. I'm not saying the explicit here about about coats. Maybe I'll have some extra rules after he finishes planks survive. Survivor appendix all the rules now at back. Oh, so so we basically reviewed the cast through our superlatives. We'll check back at the end of the see how correct or most likely. Incorrect we were about all these. But it's a nice way to sort of life. Nice lenses to view these eighteen people through Liana. What have you brought to the table for us to talk about? Yeah. So we got to talk about the cast. I actually want to talk about the format because I love me, some logistics. And so I just want to is that the name of Victoria's Guinea pig, right? Legit, logistics. Yes. Logistics sticks. Ricks sticks. Mill swamp swamp. Meet swap meet. Okay, I digress. Anyway. So I wanted to hear your the two of your thoughts about how the island of extinction, which I actually wrote on my notes is extension because that's kind of how it works. I suppose extends people's games. Just because I started thinking about are we gonna see psychological warfare like was sort of teas or we're going to see people quit. How many people are gonna live out there? Are they going to get any food? We're going to get any shelter. What is going to happen to these people that are just sort of neglected out on this island of extension? So in terms of a lot of questions, they're still today. Sorry, this clincial. She's responding with a question. I'll maybe I'll answer with another question in terminus shelter thing. I mean, all we saw was that boat with sale something makes me believe that will have to find their own shelter. And maybe in terms of food. It's like the exile thing where they're given like a machete and pot not the ghost island actually giving more rice and they do back at their own camp. But I feel like they are purposely making things scanned because they're going to try to push people to quit as much as possible. They want to avoid the doomsday scenario of eighteen people still alive in the finale. So I think the really going to try to I don't mean like pulling out a rain machine to just constantly dump on them every day all in. But I feel like really limiting them on supplies even more than they have in recent seasons would be a way to do. So. Okay. Yeah. I guess I could see that. I I okay. My ritual was well, of course, they're not gonna give them any food. They're just going to have to scavenge for coconuts or whatever then they really gonna let them out there with no food. I would just feel bad. Yeah. I think it's going to be I think like them shy. In exile, exile. And they would spell things a little bit more for us about how things worked with for Dench. Disres-? Kind of some unspoken things we never really got the logistical side of it. So I think as long as they stay on the side of the intrigue of the twists, which I think is really a really funny DEA. I think if even though you're a fan of the logistics Leon, I think if we kind of steer away from from defining the logistics of it, I think that's what's gonna keep intrigue of this twist. That's true. So I guess it's the surprise of what could potentially be happening next. I think what they should do is. Okay. Sure, they're gonna try to starve him out right to have them quits. Don't of that doomsday scenario or they could start to just psychologically mess with them. So even if they're not for touring each other, maybe survivor could portrait them a little bit with psychological warfare warfare of at all. I think that I really like that because I've been watching ex on the beach, and they have this thing called the shack of secrets where. He really try to just stir the pot a bit by you know, if there's one couple that's really feeling each other out of the bring in like text messages at the guy has exchanged with his booty. Call back home, you know, and I I don't know what necessarily want to make a lot of home wrecking situations. But I do wonder if production could bring in some certain elements each of these people's lives and just sprinkle them throughout little pre males to really a mess with their moves a bit. Yeah. This is like what big brother eight. We're gonna have some people come back in. Okay, or you can put like taymor Braxton out there on the island with them. And then see how it goes and Lolo Jones. Then I think we're really in for a very fun twist. I like that. I mean, I don't know how good they would be for this. Maybe unless you give them you give them unlimited food, and they have to eat food in front of them. And then also degrade them while they're eating. Yes. Exactly. I think that's key. Yeah. All right. Well, I guess fine. I'll just have to live with the mystery of of the island of extension, and we'll see how it goes. But what I wanna do before move onto our next thing is to. To talk about some some fan levels that were discussed on these survivor Facebook page, so we aren't gonna guess casual corner where we go to the survivor Facebook page. I full some comments that people have left. There was one comment in particular that stood out, and it made me think of how so many people in their bios or in their interviews talk about being a fan. So I wanted to read to you some of the levels of fandom, according to this person on Facebook. Okay. So levels zero people who say what that show still on. So like, Eric, for example, who potentially be someone who falls under that family them. Level. One people who watch when the show is on TV to kill time. They don't watch the show consistently survivors, not a part of their life. Level co-worker. Yes. Thank you. Okay. So yes, Paul's PO worker level one level two people who watch this show every season. However, they would not be able to name any of the players like Eric. So maybe calls into this. I and my mom. And the carpal her car pool. My mom and the carpool bitches. Yes. Yes. Okay. Level three people who watch the show consistently. They're able to remember players names placement. And major events in the show. This is where I feel like the majority of people read. Wow, that's pretty low. Yes. So this is where I well. There's only five levels open the ruling ten three. So I feel like this is where most of the people that call themselves big fans of the show. I think sort of fall under my wrong. I would think so I mean, it's interesting when they talked about favorite seasons. I think only one it was Kelly Wentworth named their favorites season was season twenty was before season twenty. So I mean, it is very, you know, very heavily weighted towards the most recent seasons. But it does feel like everyone does have a pretty good grasp as to survivor history. There were some season names that were dropped. There were some player names that were dropped from back in the day. It seems like people were saying that they watch from the beginning. So that'll feels very level three to meet and have a level for people who watch the show. Religiously a rewatch the rea- watch or watch the show read articles listen to podcasts and analyze the players based on the moves that they make. Do you think we have anybody who really falls under level for I? Chris, Chris, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think Chris even said in his Orissa interview, I fell asleep podcasts at night, I watch as much as possible. So I don't know how much of it was spurred along with the fact that he was going out to play survivor, but I guess he's just sort of key boosted himself up into a level of force that. Okay. All right. So let's see if we have anybody who's think falls under this last category level, God like old people who think this is a welfare system and go to the survivor Facebook group to complain about all the shows being unfair for bringing back returning players that took their chances away from playing. A left turn. Those like way one. Especially because it's like, oh, this'll be really good. I could use this to think about okay, where do we think people fit in? And then this last sorry what? I just love it. This person was slowly turning a mirror, and the final level was just facing it back out to the page. Like what you're doing right now. Take a hard. Look at yourself to reflective for me. I can't handle this. Wow. And very very light casting. I mean, really, you know, rolling with a wide brush to say that only people come to complain are all old people who got the missed out on the chance to come onto the show because they feel returning players their own. Yeah. I don't think that's really a thing that much. Yeah. That was very bizarre. Okay. So anyway, now, let's talk about the old people who think this is a welfare system to go on survivor. So let's get into Casuals corner. So now that we've had that little fun bit of awkwardness. Let's talk about some other awkward comments that were made if I've Casuals on the survivor age. So these first questions are all about comments about of titular player. So this first question this is for Paul. And so the way that this game is going to work is I have written one comment, and I pulled re from the Facebook page, so it is job to try to guess, which comment I wrote the other. Three were actual comments on the survivor page. So these comments are all about Dan, Wardag, Sylvia. A he swims like an infant. Be his head is so shiny. They could make fire by reflecting the sun off of it. The why is he flexing? He's built like a fifteen year old. Okay. Or d like the male version of Shambo? I am row digit. I think what about the shiny head. Yes. That is correct. That's tried for so long to come over the joke about judges wigs because for some reason very fixated on the concept of him wearing a judge's wig. Because he's a lawyer Eric was school needless to say that didn't pan out. So I can't that crappy. If I win do not break. So I'm trying to keep it. I'm very intrigued as to why who is C hanging out with in terms of fifteen year olds to say that he's built like one of them to what's no. 'cause I really look at him. Because I don't remember him looking like if year old I teach a lot of fifteen year olds do not look like this guy. Let me tell you that. The budget war was not what my German to looks like do. They look like male versions of Shamba, though. Also negative. Yeah. What what wars the sham broke compares the hair. Or the lack thereof. I actually couldn't believe it when I found that comment. Oh my gosh. I don't have to go very far for shampoo on it. Well, we'll have to see if his tribe gets chickens. How much will try to talk with them? If the war dog will be able to communicate with chickens, right? Maybe he'll have a dream while see okay mic. This next question is for you. So these were all comments about Aurora. So she must be from New York City with a big mouth like that be. I resent. I thought you'd like that one bee is she from Disney see is she from the wizard of Oz. The I went to her Facebook page and found that I appreciated several of her means. That's why all support her memes matter. I want maims matter to be next to the cross stitch of what was it. The failure is the opposite of perfect. I want memes matter. That's how I wanna live my life now. Okay. So we have is she from New York is she from dizzy she from the wizard of is. And means matter I feel like you your spirit animal is in D. But that makes me think you actually did it right? It for me, it's between wizard of Oz and Disney she is from Orlando. So I guess that would warrant the Disney comedy. I don't know why some with things she's from the wizard of Oz. And if so what character she is somebody go with C. That's correct. Yes. That was the one that I wrote. Okay, Paul this next question is for you. These were all comments about Joe is he knew wizard of us. It the bring back chicken, George. His being voted out statement was the best in all of survivor. See I can't believe it's not butter. See I it's not butter. Or d I must ask him a question. But I'll shave it for later. You made up the chicken, George one. Now once real. I think it's supposed to be chicken Morris. Put it out the best in all of survivor. Okay. Well, it's always fake. I I always remember those halcyon days where captain fart voted help survivor and gave the best final words. The one. I wrote was I must ask him a question. But I'll shave it for later saw. Once. Road. I can't believe it's not. Obviously as demonstrated by my inability to read that answer, I was dying reading that one. It was was on text. If it's not butter does that mean, he's more Joe Rin NIA? Wrap man man, new Jurain. Nope. I'm just gonna stop that the one I did right before before. I thought of moustache question was I would let Joe sire all of my beautiful moustachioed babies because I just liked the phrase moustachioed babies, but I thought that that might be too obvious. Okay mic. This next question is for you. These are comments about Ozzie who I don't know if we know on this season. But second muss sick. And most likely to win his way back into the game. Yes. Agreed. So okay. Hey, Ozzy is never gonna win dot dot dot stop bringing him back. Not. Be I watch every season of survivor as long as Ozzy, isn't it? See excited to see Ozzy make fake idols chopstick emoji chops to KOMO de chopstick emoji d love Ozzie. And Joe but sorry there no-balls and rob. Just just just like just clarify here. At least four people make reference to a person who's not on the season of survivor and just bring it into the conversation. I love it. I love it. And love the you know, what I wanna make it clear that I don't ever wanna make fun of the Casuals. Like, I appreciate every single thing. They are very important part of this band yet. They do say ridiculous things. And they do bring me joy the fact that there are three of them who thought that is he was coming back into the season. Really just brings me joy. Okay. So I know d- was there. No boston. Rob see was chopstick emoji. What were the first to again? Hey, Ozzy is never going to win dot dot stop bringing him back and be I could watch every season of survivor as long as Ozzy, isn't it? We'll as sounds like it's in that God tier level of the person who's very bitter about maybe Ozzie taking their seventy five year old spot on the season of survivor, even though again, he's not going to say be it was actually see excited to see Ozzy make big idols chopstick emoji budget chopstick Mudgee that was the one that I wrote. But yeah, I actually don't know the person who answered I could watch every season of survivor as long as is in it, perhaps they're not watching this season. Because it's not in it. I don't know set them declaring that they're basically boycotting survivor until Ozzie comes back how possibly this is their passive resistance. Protests of not watching survivor. Okay. This next question is for you, so survivor updated their profile picture on Facebook with the new logo of the island of extinction or of extinction and quality was not great on that picture. And for some reason the Casuals really latched onto how crappy that picture was. These are comments about that picture quality of this logo is on the edge of extinction. Someone help someone with that petty. Be I can't wait for the high quality Jay peg logo. See you need to give your graphics department. A raise dot dot dot or som glasses or d-. I'm really hoping the quality of this photo is Representative of quality of this season. Lots of like claw, really hard on the Jay. You know, what I think the one that sticks out because it just was like two it was just so like well put was at first one and that sticks out. So I guess that one that is correct. And that is the one that I read the rest of the rest were highest funny and not as not as crisp you think of go comment that one actually obviously, I couldn't do it before it was an actual subtle enough. Leave is logos. On honor of this cast the most subtle shade towards the logo exactly. All right, Mike, this next question is for you. So every single episode. There are always gesture for the new versions of survivor that should be played. These are some examples of comments from the preseason. So. Do the Casuals want to see Democrats versus Republicans versus liberals. Be way. Why is that like these like twizzlers versus red vines versus urging a little redundant. They're like, wait. So not versus conservatives or like, do you? Okay. All right. The vegans vs meters versus bluetooth free. See cannabis players versus pharmaceuticals. Or are the paddocks of people who are more resilient people who are the week. I don't know. But I like that they specify cannabis players versus just pharmaceutical. Like, can you imagine you like? Yeah. Me and Ambien over here. Really good at it. Or D another Cook Islands. So would just put another coach islets. Yes. Coming up with these for the season. I know they should really tap into them. Instead. See sounds too ridiculous to not be true. A sounds too redundant to not be true. So we have what we have. What were being the again be is vegans vs meters? Versus gluten free and D is just another Cook Islands. You say d- d another Cook Islands. I oh that was your answer. No, sorry wrong. Tracy so much. My when you lose do not show anger. Also, also ROY do not show disrespect with gestures. I can't see you. But that could have been a middle finger. Is that because you're not looking at me. So this is not a video call. But sure. Unfortunately, no, Mike. I misheard you. I wrote vegans versus meters versus pollutant free. I was so close. Yes. Well, I was hoping hoping that someone didn't actually suggest another time. And unfortunately that was suggested in imprint ac- survive a race bore. Yes. Great quick, right. Like, thanks. Okay. So Paul you have two points. Mike you have one. And we're going to get to our final question each. So Paul, this is just hope ary. Since they're just bringing people back in. I want Debbie and Natalie back there like mental handy's to the show dot LOL. The so excited hashtag survivor had shocked tribal council. Hashtag couple bonding time. How shock it's our thing. Hash of the glunz. Months? I don't know if that's are. They. Most likely to get a hashtag this season. And there aren't even on the show. Yeah. But if that is a story, it's a very dark turn. All right, C, get the VCR ready space exploration point exclamation point. Exclamation point. Or d Russell hand was in Australia last year. It's hard. But the pope are- because it's just all over the place. I'm gonna say see you made up. That one was real. Which I was very shocked seat. No, I wrote div Russell was in Australia last year. All right. Well, you didn't even write that. He was on a trillion survivor. You just wrote that he was in interest here. Yeah. Yeah. He was the air field. Trout, everyone his his hat. His head was at least it made the reunion his hat on the chairman reunion show. So good. All right, Mike. This is your phone question. Also potpourri. Hey, happy survivor is back survivor in man with a plan are my two favorite shows. I would love to see Kevin LeBlanc on survivor. Right. Well, maybe it's not your favorite show. You don't remember the name of the actor place? This believed role. It can be Matthew Perry next time. Okay. B past two seasons. Winners have been terrific. Very happy Davey one. When does the season start? Oh, boy, what a couple of things to tell you, sir. Madam c I'm so excited for this. It's all my favorite things about survivor in one season. And that was an in all cats if you couldn't guess and d-, oh my hat. Joe is back. Has oh my hat. Joe is back. Sort of a rhyme whom I had never heard that. Oh, my hat. Joe is back. Boy. All right. I wanna say in all caps you wrote? No. That was a real one. I wrote a the Kevin LeBlanc on survivor joke, which originally was not intended to be a joke. But I could not remember Matt LeBlanc his name. So I kept it. Oh, my hat. I can't believe I lost. All my gosh. Oh, my hat became my new favorite phrase. It's like, oh my hat. I can't believe it's not butter. Okay. Well, congratulations, Paul. You have one our very first casual corner of the season. Congratulations. Thank you. I'm not bragging and not asking for a ward. And I am not looking you looking at you at all I'm going to be just the rule breaker in class and break all of these. I'm just going to jump around on my desk. Scream at everybody any to balance this out. I will say one thing that stood out to me was that Casuals did not like Joe's moustache. So if we're gonna take solace in anything, I think that that is something that everyone can agree upon. All right. So I know pull you don't wanna speak too much about the logistics of edge of extinction doing finish off on a little bit of a game slash draft around extinction island. Look, no matter what the structure is at some point people are going to quit the game while being on extinction island. What I figured we would do is each going to draft two contestants from this season. Who we think will end up quitting the game or one reason or another, and hopefully, none of them do hopefully, they all tough it out there and end up surviving to challenge that they eventually win or lose. But I think looking at this cast given the theme and given a lot of them talking about the tenacity of it all I thought we could go around the horn and each pick will go one one one. And then we'll go one one one again, we'll each pick two people and see if they end up raising the flag when it comes to extinction island Liana. Let's start with you who is your first pick of someone if it was most likely to leave the game. I hope I'm wrong about this. But my first pick is going to be windy, and the reason why reason why I'm picking her is because she is somebody who is really intense, and when you're really intense, you can have really high intensity, and you have really low intensity. And I think she somebody who gets the out there really defeated and ends up deciding to quit the island of fiction. All what about you? That was mine I was going to take. So instead, please give me. I will take Julie got a lot of podcasting to do. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take Julie. Okay. I'm I'm gonna go with Ron Clark. Why not he's he's tell at the top with this podcast. I feel like Ron Kuby somewhere. If he's outwitted I feel like with a lot of these people, especially if they end up on extinction with someone like Joe or Kelly. They might be like, well, we don't stand a chance why sort of waste our time here, and I feel like Ron could be somebody be like gone my survivor experience. You know, I'm ready to sort of pick up my supplies and go back to the classroom. Mike you just quoted essential number fifty two from your mistakes and move on. I didn't even realize I've been sept- it the book fully over the course of this podcast. It also is rule. Fifty four is carpet diem. So I feel like you can make it fit either way you want. Sees the quitting the island of extinction. I suppose sure. I guess we can go one. We'll go snake just for the heck of it. I'll make my second pick here. I hope this is not true. I'm gonna say Aurora because while Aurora did say she's able to divorce her emotions from her line of work. She just say, I'm not completely heartless. I do have some things that trigger me. I feel like she could be someone who just happens to, you know, end up in a couple of rough night's not just send her in a tailspin that lends her lens to her pulling herself from the gate. I could see that. All right all second pick for you. I guess I'll take Lauren. I think she's a strong athlete and stuff. But just. Yeah. Maybe she gets up early and then just too much for her. She needs to get back and talk about how she just graduated as collegiate athlete. So I'll take Loret a graduation party to go to exactly a lot of them. Okay. I think for my last pick. I'm going to go with. Rap. Okay. I'm gonna go with three go three because somebody who got kicked out of a gym. Maybe she's gonna get kicked off the edge of extinction as well, especially because you so that's true issue to scream at somebody for a I don't know not losing enough weight win. Dr Joe ways her in before sending her on to extinction island guy, and that would be so perfect. She comes back upon Rosa. And he's like, so, you know, you lost five pounds. And that we get a whole recreation of what happened. I would be here for it. Yes. Lease. So we shall see ended up picking about a third of the cast. We'll see exactly what happens as Paul says a lot of this is up in the air. But those another nice little landmark that we can revisit upon examining this at the end of these fourteen episodes to finish things off. We usually on the BNB do a question of the week where we ask a question to the audience, and you guys send us your responses between this podcast and the next one. And we'll answer them on the air next week giving our answers as well of the question for this preseason in honor of episode one. So Dan came in with the nickname of the war dog, which is something that I think he's sort of copied from his platoon days, but he sort of has been able to mold into his life. So if you out there, we're playing survivor, what self-appointed nickname, would you give your self when entering the game? This could be something that. Emigrates your opponents. It could be something to cuddle up to your opponents. Whatever sort of impression you want to put out there. What would be the nickname that? You would give yourself. You have a bunch of ways to reach out to us with this information. You can always tweet us using the hash tag, RH AMP. The and beat the letter the letter N the letter B, you always Email it to us at our H B and B A G mail dot com. You can post it on Facebook on read it on the page on rob has a website dot com. You have a myriad of ways for us to to Chow down on that content, and we will answer your nicknames and re through them next week. I'm very excited to bring you the first guest episode one of extinction. The great Josh Wigley is going to be joining the BNB for the first time to break down the premiere of extinction. You've got to be out on set as we alluded to previously with first one out. So I'm sure he'll provide some the likable tidbits as we talk through some of his experience there. I'm sure the unorthodox mater in which the premier carried out. I'm sure much much more. So be sure to send us all that. We'll be able to talk through that with Josh. And assuming maybe along the way we'll talk through some fun wand off heretics, I feel like reams name himmy thrown into a lot of a lot of song. It's like the new Rourke, but the finish things off. Why don't we go around the horn? If you guys want to give your social media handles. If you wanna if anyone else wants to check out what these lovely people are talking about during the survivor season. No. So what you might be working on in the podcasts at large upholster with you. Sure, you can find me on Twitter at Paul Austin. And we'll see how active on Twitter kind of quiet last year last season. So we'll see if these this cast has me talking more than usual. You just every week. A random run or rule, and we'll see if it applies. It be the new David Bloomberg rules. Yeah. Like teaching and stuff. Like we had kind of like I didn't do this much for teachers use these essentials. It was broken. There was like an essential the week that you work on. So I think we can definitely find which is sensual. You know, Ron Clark academy rule was followed. Or maybe not followed every episode of survivor. Yeah. What about scrap our predictions, and instead will pick the rule that most likely applies the week with the scrap the whole segment, but we've predicted rule head of time. Oh, okay. So we pick the rule, and then we have to somehow make it work. No. This is terrible ideas. Okay. I'm on social media at Liana Boris L at abo R A S. Of course, I'm so excited to be back with Mike to do with BNB or this season of survivor of we are also doing rupaul robberies coverage along with Brett welcome aunt so talking about all sorts of season four which is going to be wrapping up this week. But then no rest for the wicked. We have one week off. And then we get back into repulsive greats with season eleven so it's a lot. But it's fun still. I'm pretty sure. No, no. That's a stock owes and drum talking, but I very much love it. And then wrapped up all the stuff for. The big brother one of the other shows that are happening, and then should hopefully be back to you brother candidate coverage as well. 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Survivor Know-It-Alls | Edge of Extinction Episode 12 Recap

Rob Has a Podcast

50:53 min | 1 year ago

Survivor Know-It-Alls | Edge of Extinction Episode 12 Recap

"Smart guys. Break it down. Well, actually, they didn't really win the game at all Zavod. Game. Yes. That's a right. Stephen fish back here. We are this -vivor knowing all's are back again to get Cam. Oh my God. They're back again, another persona of survivor, the edge of extinction and tonight, Ron Clark is the latest person to go to the edge of extinction. We are here to talk about it all here with you live. How are you holding up? Rob. I know you're a big Ron Clark fan looked Ron Clark was a great character on the show. We'll talk about where he might have gone wrong. Everything was coming up Ron Clark earlier in the night. But unfortunately, there was a countermeasure. And ultimately that he was the one who ends up going home after Rick Devon's plays his idol. And I'm looking forward to breaking it all down here with Steven fish back. Who's back on the mend after shoulder surgery last week look at him. And his perseverance doing it all for you. Just podcasting. You don't really use your arms that much to podcast to be fair. It's not a very Armand. Listen for anybody who is questioning, Stevens perseverance. I saw him put his ear buds in and untangled them with one hand tonight. Really? It was one of the most moving and motivational things I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. I mean, everyone knows how how dexterous I am as a rule. So it was as always a living up to that to that level of X, Terry. I was shocked by Ron earlier in the episode. He said he was the one in control. And you know, when someone says there were controls I've ever you've got to believe them if they know. I'm kidding. Because just the death. But it took a while to alternately bite Ron Clark as he goes out here, and we were down to six before we get down to five and then probably back six again here as we can't down the edge of extinction. Lots to do here tonight already busy night for me, Steven that I took over these survivor Instagram, and I was Instagram ING awake watching on the survivor Instagram account, had my wife and kids helping me with with that. And that was you know, anytime you get to work with your family. It's a joy who's the most helpful family member. Dominic was he was the most cooperative of the family members. He was he was legitimately pumped up to do it. And he was the only one except for me. And it was a lot of fun. Check that out. Of course, we are also going to be on a right after the episode. We're going to switch over to fan credit the credit app fan cred dot com to download call in and talk. The Stephen fishbach and myself for thirty minutes after the episode starting at ten fifteen pm tonight. You can go ahead and get on fan credit and get ready for us and then on the fan line, call in and talk live with Stephen fish back and myself at ten fifteen hashtag RHA to get your tweets into the show here tonight. Got some great podcast coming up as well. Dominic in Kellen from ghost island or going to join on the real tomorrow together yet to fun. Yes on that'll be a lot on to get into everything with them. And then the purple pants bad ass. Price is AM will join us. For this week's feedback show and Liana Boris will join us on this week survivor this week so jam packed week a podcast yet. Wow. That's that's that's pretty big. That's a big week too. Big week. Okay. Yeah. Stephen, let's talk about a what happened here because I feel like that there were sort of like a two reads on this episode tonight. Right. Well, I I also the one read is that Ron shouldn't is I'm trying to guess what you're saying is the one read that right? Ron screwed it all up by taking. But by by winning the the loved ones reward, he alienated Lauren and Victoria. And that was his downfall. What's the other read? No. That wasn't really major part of it. May mean Donaldson is show. Dammit, read, of course, the challenge from heroes versus villains. But it's almost like that you watch this episode, and it's like damn Rick Devon's. Well, he did it again. But meanwhile, yes, he did save himself from elimination, but all of the heavy lifting for the elimination of Ron Clark was to the players that probably end up getting a lot more credit tonight. Yeah. I mean fishy for Victoria, you all Victoria's a long-term favorite of mine. And I think that. Ron enjoy just assumed that the default plan would be Aurora because they were saying roar because Aurora was the default plan always. And I think as soon as you get locked in on a planet opens the door for other people to make a move and Victoria had that great great remark. Like, I wanna be the one who's choosing who goes home, not not rake like we should just like wait to see who Rick votes for let that be the determining factor here at the final eight. So from her perspective, I thought it was really great to plan on insurrection a little bit of confusion with the votes for those who are curious and missed it. So Gavin Gavin voted twice Gavin did use Aurora's extra vote. So two of the Ron votes from Gavin Lauren also voted for Ron Rick voted for Aurora and then Julie, Ron, Victoria. And who I missing Julie around Pretoria and someone voted for. Voted for Rick. So Rick did have four votes, and he would have gone home. Aurora Aurora is the last person. So Rick Aurora. Nope. Sorry, Ron Julie Aurora, Victoria voted for Rick. And when I thought was incredibly genius about this is that Victoria, who came up with the plan to blindside Ron is voting for Rick. So she's actually voting with Ron and Julie. So in the case that Rick doesn't have an idol. And Rick does go home. She hasn't pissed off. Ron and Julie it's Gavin and Lauren who pissed off. Now does this now end her streak though, Stephen voting for the person who went home every single time? Do you still she came up with a plan? It was her. It was her plan. Yeah. Interesting. And I thought that this might have been victorious best episode of the series for me, maybe revolt as still might be tops. But this was probably, you know, one in one b yeah. I again, I think she's she's such as player it's weird. Because like she. She feels under edited. We don't like talking about the. But like she just like, she should be a bigger character almost and she is, you know, there's like eight people left she's played such a smart strategic game. And maybe I can't like tell I just like a big fan. And I want to see more of the character. I'm rooting for or or do you think that that we should have more Victorian than we do? I don't know. I mean, I feel like that. She's probably played a social game and has not been overly strategic with the other players where she seen somebody who just sort of like piles in on the last second that we've seen her that's been very strategic has been sort of one on one in confessional. So I don't necessarily what what more there would be to show. I don't know. Just just you know, some mustache twirling scheming being being diabolical. We had some great confessionals harder in the vote about you know, nobody should trust her. She seemed like a big fund character. I'm interested to know, Stephen. So that after this vote how? Do you think that this next round of voting goes that it probably is going to be the vote? They can Rick Devon's again, who's on like, a maybe a dream Bergen Esca trajectory at this point. I mean, it really does seem like the only way Rick is going to win as if he wins out. And although although actually he really just has to win until the edge of extinction person comes back because then that person will be a bigger target than he is. I think that he could get voted out next week and then be the edge of extinction person. Again, that would that would be amazing the double resurrection that would be the true well before so there is some precedent for that. And also amazing race Victor did the same feat in big brother eighteen but for Rick Devon's to get voted out and come back in. I guess it'd be the equivalent of having immunity for the final six. Yeah. That's right. That's right. The final six again. But but so, yeah, he he's he's he's he's got a really long. Road ahead of him. He really has to basically went out whether that's through losing and then winning his way back or just winning consistently or through some some great idol play. And you know, we talked about it a little bit with Nick last season. It's a little bit easier now to do that with fire making challenge being being there. Right. He would still need to get through three rounds. One way one way or another where he has to get through six and five and then he's in it potentially at four. I don't know if Rick Devon's is going to be a natural at the fire making. I guess he could also lose it six come back. But then he has to survive six at some point. Well, but also even just the politics of the fire making I do feel no one's going to take Rick to go with them. So maybe that's not the case. But the edge of extinction factor does seem to help him. If there is it's sure seems like the jury is rooting for Rick Devon pretty openly. Don't like I mean was wild that scene in the jury. It seems like that Ron was very unpopular with the jury. I saw even Kelly wear worth cheering at what Rick Devon's was able to do. Yeah. I mean, it seems like everyone was was team. Rick, and I do think thinking about the jury for this season. I do think I was talking about earlier with calling stone like how is the edge of extinction effect, the jury's perspective? And we were kind of saying that, you know, because you know, at Ponderosa when you're at ponder OSA. You have the ability to kind of go off yourself, you're eating food. You're engaging with your own activities. You're listening to music you're reading a book. So you're like, you're like more establishing your own identity away from the group, but they're living. You know, when you're living altogether at the edge of extinction. I really think as much as group think is a huge part of every survivor season with the jury. I think it's going to be an even bigger part this time. So I'm not surprised that they're all kind of like they've all kind of glommed onto one person whom they're all rooting for. Yeah. It's interesting that that's the case. I think that something that we talked about a lot coming out of survivor thirty five with sort of the idea of a lot of theatrics at tribal council, and how much that impacts the jury because that's what the jury gets to see as opposed to somebody walks in like Chrissy walks into the like, oh, Chrissy one immunity again. Okay. All right. Well, we didn't see that. But here's you know, Rick Devon's plays the fake advantage that Ron gave him, you know, really rips into Ron and Julie in front of the jury, then wallah, here's a real idol. I'm playing this tonight. You know, the jury is going nuts in terms of the idea of your resume. What what what is the jury seen stuff? Like that. Rick Devon's has been. Probably the best person on the the entire cast at that. And I don't think it's close in terms of theatrics at the tribal council that have been affected and also seemed to have resonated with the jury. Yeah. Obviously that speaks to his incredible poise on camera. Right. Just from his his training. And this this being his profession, whether he's learned those skills because professional his profession because he's in great at that. And just kind of really able to think on his feet quickly. But, but he really does is able to milk every moment like that great lines. And what was it? We're like he was like let me I could end all of the speculation. But I'm not going on. Yeah. Because I'm having a lot of fun. It was just such a great. You know, he really like is timing is just so so on point people who really I tweeted today about how much I love RIC Evans, I certainly heard from a lot of people who feel otherwise the things that I love about. Yeah. Yeah. Expressing any sort of preference in any capacity. But I think the people who don't like him. And it's the great thing about a being human. We can all we all have different things. But. The great part way. Unlike senses, smells, tastes beauty. Those are the that's all good talking to you. Couldn't do it. If I were a cow guy. All right. So moving forward from this moving forward from this. So Rick Devin seems like he is Dead Man Walking. But also feels like that there is more to him. He's yeah. He is like his he still seems like he has a destiny in this game. Yeah. It doesn't. I mean, it's hard to say with someone like Rick because he's so he's so funny, and he just gives grace such great sound bites. It's like how much of his story is just you know, is is like this like destiny that he has versus like how much is that? He's just a phenomenal character. And you would always give that guy airtime. Yeah. It's just compared to the other five people who Ron Clark was the other person who was on the show where we've seen a lot of him the other five people that are in contention Julie Aurora. Victoria, Lauren and Gavin are people that we really have not gotten to know well over the course of the season. So it really is. Maybe who Aurora Aurora. Yeah. I mean, we've hardly seen that. I mean where Rick Devon's is one of the most visible people from this season. And the other five are all people who have been, you know, certainly in the bottom half of visible characters in the show. Yeah. No, it's true. It's I I do think Aurora has gotten a little bit more over you know, over the past couple of of weeks. But it is really true that all of the basically all of the high profile characters have now except for Rick have now have now left the game. Yeah. So it's like, it's you gotta wonder I mean, I guess next week has got to be all about Rick. And then you get the finale, and whatever happens happens. They're seeing about Ron Clark a couple of things I guess we we need to touch on the family visit. But before we get there. Let lemme ask you about Wayne in the opening of the episode run gave his expired idle Menuires advantage menu to to Rick d think that that was a good move. What did that by Ron? I mean, Ron's logic in that moment, right? Is I'm going to Rick will be RIC will rest easier. If he feels like he has an idol that to me. I don't think that's fair. That's false. Right. If Rick thinks he has an idol, maybe he will be less likely to go looking for an idol, therefore. Will be less likely to find an idol, and therefore he will be easier to eliminate now that obviously ended up not being the case. But if you're on survivor, and you have a any slight edge. Why would you not use it? So so the one big reason not to use it as the reason that Rick basically said like why humiliate me when I'm on my way out the door. Not just because it's like a mean thing to do because like you're sitting someone to the jury after humiliating them and making them super salty about it. I don't know. I'm on the fence. I mean does the pro and the con. Yeah. Probably I'm sorry. This the kind of appropriate of the con is the pro. Yeah. I don't think there's that much to to gain from it. I can stand corrected. We have seen people use fake idols in in various ways. But it was in the came up last season as well with Angelina. And where she she ended up planting the fake idol with Allison. It was one of the reasons the Allison was especially annoyed. She felt like that. Tanja Lena was trying to embarrass her in the in in the same way. Angelina did not feel like that. That was the case. So I I don't know necessarily, you know, we saw it with Nick and Christian as well where it ended up then working to some degree. We're Christian did not end up going to look for because he thought that Nick had found the other idol, but ended up creating distrust between Davey and Nick last season's. I I it's you really playing with fire with that stuff. Yeah. And it does seem when you're out there and you're playing the game. Like, you're kind of having fun with it. You know, the instinct to do it is very very cute. I get it. Like, it's kind of like a fun little devious thing to do. This our days. But I think that Rick Devon's also probably, and maybe he did think this, and we and we didn't see it in the episode. But I think that if you're Rick Devon's and run has given me an idol advantage for no apparent reason. He voted more dog out. And there's no good reason. Why he did this? I think that Rick. If you really thought about it could deduce this is a trick. Right. And he did seem to be pretty suspicious about it. I mean, even in that moment, he said there's zero reason for onto give this to me very acutely aware of that. And then later on he says, if this is a real thing from Ron he he asks Ron and Julia again by the well like is this really real? So it seems like he doesn't totally by it. And obviously, you know, smart move for him to play that first and see what happened before playing his other thing. But you know, Rick voted roar. Rick went with Ron's plan. So he was giving the benefit of the doubt as well. So it was his, you know. Trust. But verify. Okay. So in the family visit is it as simple as to say, Ron Clarke should not have won that family visited is it back on board with this is not been something that has come back to bite anybody in a while. Survivors have no business winning the family reward. This is such a hard thing. Right. Where it's like, you're you have so much emotional stakes tied up in seeing your family member not to mention just winning winning any reward is so useful. I have I am typically in favor. I know that everyone says like this sort of generic strategic advice is you shouldn't win. You shouldn't try to win ROY. I don't really buy that. But I do think with family visit because it is so personal and people just take it. So personally, you know, it's it's did Ron go home because he won the family. Visit I don't know. But it makes it that much easier for both Lauren and Victoria to say to say his name when when after he doesn't doesn't take them. What do you what's your take care of? I don't think we've seen it burned. Somebody in quite some time. I'm trying to think of the past winners of the, you know, the family reward, and you know, who they've selected. Well, I mean ended up. Yes. That was the one where I mean. But that was survivor twenty six I mean, this is twelve seasons ago. And maybe there's another person along the way, I know they haven't had it necessarily every single season. But it does seem as though and maybe the check in points. It's been a minute since it really burns somebody. Yeah. But I think it could in subtle ways to remember in Cambodia the three people who didn't go on the families or the final three. And I don't think that's relevant. You know? I think it just really reinforces that bond with the people who are left behind. Yeah. 'cause they're so salty, and we talk constantly about how winning a reward doesn't really win. You anything from the people you take. It's not like it's only bad for the people you leave behind. It's rare that people actually feel gratitude from your taking. That's a great point about Gavin where I do think that one of the. Miscalculations that Ron made was you know, that if I if I do certain things for people there will be a quid pro quo and by taking Gavin. He says it was not about the honeymoon for Gavin. It was about I need to keep Gavin on board with the plan. And so by taking him on the reward, that's what I'm doing. And then by the end of the episode that the Gavin is using how how many different votes two votes against two voting votes against Ron Clark, by the way, just as an aside. I like Aurora giving Gavin the extra vote because he's the only one like it's a little bit gilding the lily. I thought like why not just give it to Victoria, like, no one's voting for Victoria. You know, she's not the target. It just seemed like a lot. I mean, I guess with survivor you always wanna be like quadruple serve your plan. But it just seems like a little bit like an unnecessary. Flora in crimes of the math of it. How many votes did they need? It was also that this was the last time that Aurora could use that extra votes. So maybe this was a little bit of like the person with the hammer. Everything looks like a nail exactly why not why not use it basically is right because I know this is very confusing this vote. So there was only gonna be what one Rick Devon's vote. So wouldn't two votes against Ron had done the trick. Yeah. But you know, you never know for sure like maybe want maybe like because Ron things everyone's voting. Roar for Rick Keith those another vote on a Rura, you know, you never know for why not take that extra level of precaution. But doesn't then on the tiebreak everybody. Then. I guess they would vote out Aurora over on the tiebreak. Well, the tie-break. No, I think I think the numbers would because obviously if the tie who's who's the tie between in this case, Rick and only if written idle, so then it would be if there was two votes on a rower and two votes on than the other five people would get to vote, and they would all vote for Ron, right? Everyone would Veron except for Julie. Okay. Because obviously recruit over so that I mean, that's the point that they didn't need as many votes. Yeah. But they got the vote. Why not why not I guess? Home advantage in their pocket. That's it especially when they could've play. Rank these players, I know that might be arbitrary and reductive. But if you if you could of of the foursome of Victoria Aurora Gavin in Lauren. Yeah. Do you feel particularly strong about any of the four? You know, the, you know, the answer Victoria's number one. Oh, yeah. I think like cans down victorious, she might be playing the best, but I don't know necessarily if she is necessarily I don't see her necessarily in the final three, do you? I should have asked you what the question, I guess who's like who has the inside track to this thing. Like, I still feel like Devon's is gonna get there somehow. But I I don't know who else is there. So you're you're like saying, okay. So this is not who's playing the best game. I mean, I've thought that Aurora really could be finalised here. I've long thought that Julie might be a finalist. She get absolutely Julie could absolutely be a losing finalist. I think that would make a lot of sense. I don't think I doubt Victoria's making the finals in factor sort of under edited persona kind of matches up with people who go out and five in the five or six of Dr Alison that kind of like like goodbye goodbye finale. Yes, she might lose the fire making or she might be the first person out in the finale just that person. Who's like, we can't really give this person a big story. Like, a big big, farewell. I come. I if if I was getting like a million dollars to like pick the call the final three right now. I would really struggle with it. Yeah. I mean, I would think Devon's just, but he really who knows? I really could see Julia Julia and Aurora in who who's voting Julie like who's gonna vote. She could be if Devon's wins immunity that she would be the easy. Target to go home next time. I guess so. But then why I if she was with Ron she was wrong. She was Ron's person who's who she connected to. But these players have never made that they've. They've never they've they don't ever vote together. Twice in a row if anything Devon's in Julie should work together now moving forward. And they've said they were connected at the merge. Maybe they maybe they could sort of pair up and figure something out. And maybe, you know, get that four of the four under edited people Lauren Kevin, Victoria and Aurora vacant split split that four into. Yeah. I mean, I think after night that's probably a long shot after Nevins deeply betrayed Gavin's one. I think what to immunities and he's been right there for a bunch of them. Yeah. But, but I mean, you know, basically saw Devon Devon's like calling out what a what a to face liar Julia's in front of the whole jury. I'm not sure if there's much much opportunity for trust between those two right now this season has been so weird where it's we we saw the last straw council where war dog. About how him in him in Ron Clark where you know. They were the people that they deserve all the credit for getting Kelly out of the game. And I felt like I don't know if it was Ron's decision. I really feel like that the votes weren't there to keep war dogging the game at that last travel. So Ron went along with. But I felt at the time. I don't love where Ron is in the game. Because I think that he's sort of been sort of a presented as the biggest threat out there in the game in the way that this post merger is gone. Every time somebody sort of revealed as the biggest threat, that's the next person to go home and other than Rick Devon's. I don't know who the next person who is who is the biggest threat. Yeah. I mean, I think it's Rick is gonna be the biggest threat probably will go out next week unless you know, unless he gets some magic power from edge of extinction. I mean, he could he's he's been good in the immunity challenges and communities fishing finding the idol now. So he has he has a lot of outs. Yeah. He's got some out for sure for sure. And. Then whoever comes back from edge of extinction is the biggest threat, right? So so that's you know, it's it's whether or not they get Rick out. Rick is the biggest threat next week in such a week. It will be Rick and the person from more just the person for Mench. Who also might be Rick. But yeah, I mean, it's true that you know, there really hasn't been a alliances. It really is the inverse season to go silent wearing ghost island. You've just had so many people protecting the two most dominant players who just were never in danger at all and this season. Anyone who shows even a small soup song of dominance is immediately voted out? Yeah. Okay. You're trying to get me to start googling things as doing the podcasts. So so I don't know. I mean, you know, in terms of who's I don't see I don't see. I mean, Lauren has a lot of quotes about fire. And so it's very I don't know if that's. One about her dad. They're gonna couple tonight. She said something like it's so much better by the fire, and they like subtitled it, and it was very strange. Words, nobody was such a nothing quote in look like nine times out of ten this sort of stuff doesn't lead anywhere. But it was just such a weird, quote for them to subtitle that I thought like there has to be some kind of significance of this could see her either winning or losing farming. Yeah. Let me ask you. We didn't go to the extinction again tonight. What did you think about that? Did you miss the edge? Did you miss seeing? Oh my God. Oh, we will promise. You're you're going to get it tomorrow. At the end of last episode. We're not gonna see anything from Sedgwick stink tion next week. Yeah. I was you're going to get it in the morning. I was looking forward to that. But I do like that reim- gets now. It's the final word on every episode. I liked that that the the new thing. Yes. That's good. I was glad that don't call me a sadist. But I was glad that they did not get a loved ones at the edge of extinction. Oh, yeah. No. That would have been. I I there was there would have only been one person. Oh, you think they should would've flown all the loved ones? Because they in the original redemption island season, they did have like at least like the possibility of the people on Brampton island getting their loved ones. Visit. I'm glad that that was not on the table. Yeah. I agree. It's supposed to be like the extreme of human suffering. And it's already seems like summer can't. It'd be worse if their family members were showing. Okay. All right. We're going to get to your questions. I let me take a moment. And thank our sponsor here. Tonight mother's day is around the corner. Stephen and Sunday may twelfth. And if you haven't gotten your mom something special, yet, do we see any mom's on the loved ones? Visit. I think it was a no mom. No mom, look visit. Yeah. It was dad dad. Lots of Gad's don't be like survivor and forget all about the mom's day is coming up with flowers and friends of the show from you. Flowers dot com has a fantastic deal right now for the rob as a podcast listeners. 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CVS failing him takeover your Instagram. Oh boy. Oh my God. This this. Ream you're getting played Iran. Clark. All right. We don't we is this. How many of these is this what like most evenings are like in? The sister, Nina household, like mister Rogers casts. What do you what do you want? What do you? What are you doing in my in my spare time? Okay. I didn't think that. I really didn't. Yeah. Who do you need David Wright like here here? Give me a good one. I want good. You wanted to see David Wright tonight. This is what he looks still looks like. Okay. All right. Okay. I Jame says so what do you think of Ron's master plan to get Devon's out that you re with him about where he said he'd lost sight of the million in order to get Devon's out. Or no was Devon's the right target for Ron Clark. Well, Devon's is. I guess the only argument against Evans is keeping Devon's in. The game is protection for Ron. Which is true. But also, you know. Everyone wanted Devon's out. Right. I mean, it would have been a pretty tough sell for for Ron to be like is what we really I guess, I guess he was pushing the Aurora vote pretty hard to. I don't know. What do you think? Rob. Well, it does seem like, and I don't know if they'll be anything to take away from this for future survivor seasons. But anytime, it's an easy vote. It does seem like that idle hands hands come into play where well this is too easy of vote. We need to, you know, get bored. I need to make a Mark here. And so every time it's like Devon's was the easy target and Devon's was not a great target. Because it seemed like there was a lot in the either about that Devon's could have an advantage. Like people seem like pretty adamant that like almost every person in the game felt like well, we need a plan b because Devon's might have something up his sleeve. Yeah. I mean. It's hard because someone like Ron has has. Backed himself into a corner. Or actually he hasn't even backed himself into corner. He's been backed into a corner because all of the bigger the other players have been eliminated by his own alliance. And so like when Ron and Julie were betrayed by. Julia Gavin, and Victoria, it really looked like they were sort of out of luck on the show and actually sense that vote had a pretty stellar comeback. Right. Where it's been three. It was immediately. After that, it sure looked like the less who's had a pretty big numbers. They had sort of tied up the numbers and then one two three three less who's gone so kudos to the commas for getting their act together. Once you know after after that total screw up at the start of the of the merge at this point in the game. I don't know what Ron. Back to serve Rick Evans, because I thought that that was miraculously that Rick Devon's was able to scale the roof at shelter while everybody was sleeping, and then pull this off and get this under. Everybody's knows. I mean that, you know, sometimes, you know, that the tin foil hat Twitter will say like, oh that he just found that that idol. Oh, isn't that? Isn't that a coincidence that he founded on idle? I mean, this was not a cheapie for Rick Devon's here tonight having to scale, and it's also like it's dark. You know? It's not like you can see kind of where you're going. It is pitch black on those long nights. And there's no there's no lighting right to camera light is for red, right? Which is why it so it's not like you're seeing through the from the camera light. So he is scaling this tree in the night. Who knows what like? Critter is dangling in that tree. I mean that was that was a pretty pretty bad ass. Idle. Idle snack. I only wish that maybe. I hope nobody gets hurt, but Rick Devon's could've fallen through the roof of the shelter. And then only. Yeah. Well, now, I can call you say that. Who laid man would do. That's that's a spirit animal. Okay. Maybe hold the item on the way down bust through the roof. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Some more questions. A why is do you feel like there's anyone on the edge of extinction who actually has a legit chance of coming back and making a run at winning. They're starting to feel more and more like a regular jury now rather than a place threat could come back from in gave Stephen are are your fishy. Senses. Tingling that somebody on the edge of extinction has a chance to come back. I mean, you look at who's there, you have some, you know, you've got Chris you've got Joe you've got Kelly Wentworth, you know, David Wright. A does extremely well. And all these challenges you have people there who do very well in the challenges. And I would not be at also whoever wins that challenge. You know, depending on what it presumably it's not gonna be like a slide puzzle. It's going to be a pretty tough congress where Aubrey was trying to get on tangles. That's right. She's been she's still practicing how how long does she get the practice? I know still on this show. Right. She's there. But I mean. So so. Well, yeah, why haven't they haven't seen these people? Yeah. Yeah. She gave she gave Kelly big hug last week. Okay. Very emotional. It's all happening. Okay. What about Kieran, Stephen? Karen wants to know will the extinction island dual occur on finale night. Probably. Yeah. I mean, I think that we basically we have one more week. Then it's the finale we'll we'll vote we'll go from six to five next week. And then we will have the edge of extinction. I think kick off the three hour finale. Yeah, I agree. I think that'll be the star than you know, immediately vote. So it's six that's so the extinction person whoever comes back from extinction has to get votes and then fire making. Yeah. If they come back with an idol boy would that be irritating. It would be it would be something. It would be something. Now. Could it be another piece of an idol? Could it be something? But yeah, I think that you look you come back at six you gotta figure it out. Yeah. Okay. I really hoping. That's I don't know how it would be able to conceive of the season of the extinction person one. Because it's like what was the point of the whole. I guess it depends on that. I went out if so someone like someone who goes out fifth, and then they come back. They were still a big part of the anyway. Yeah. Look they have to they have to also then do something when they come back in. Yeah. They're still get through a couple of these votes. Yeah. So I mean, the worst case scenario is a person comes back, and then they win immunity. They went immunity, they make the fire. And then they and they win. That's not great. Right. No. I mean, that's that's the nightmare for this this because it's like, then it's just then it's just you know, there was an entire season of survivor, and it meant nothing, you know, all of all it just all came down to a couple of obstacle. Right. I'm trying to remember Ozzy come back at six, and then he won immunity. It's or do you back and it five I feel like he came back, and he definitely lost the final four. He won the final five challenge. So that would mean he came in at six because I do think he won one. He was way back in. He think he wanna challenge. Jumped to four than Ozzy came back in at five and then one of them wanna challenge he came back into five. He won the challenge to four. That's exactly right and loss of. All right. Let's get some more questions in. Okay. Why are there any possible goats left in the remaining contests? This is one of the few times. I think everyone left is made us move where they could make a significant run at the final tribal council seeing. This is interesting because we talked about this on the show last week of goat's. Oh, it's the goats versus pilots, and oh so many goats. I don't know if there's one person that is a guaranteed loser. In the final three. Yeah. I don't think so either. I mean, I think if you're looking at their resume it's from what I mean Lorna seem to make the fewest moves of that of that group, although that's not actually true and Lauren's done. She was a huge part of the less alliance which really did did some damage at the at the at the merge. Yeah. I think every single person has really got problem. We'll last two weeks where that group has really been I think sort of the deciding factors these last two weeks that I to me it's been so split among them. Like, I know you assign the most agency to Victoria here. But Lauren did a lot and Aurora did a lot and Gavin did something so totally this is really it's hard to sort of like pick one of that four and say this was one hundred percent there move sort of in the way that the war dog got all the credit on the Kelly Wentworth vote, even though the war dog vote where? You had where Lauren was saying that it was it was her move. You had Julie talking about the eight needs to be war dog Aurora and Victoria were in there too. So a gathering wanted blood from more dog for that whole episode. So it has been very hard out of that group to pick one personnel where we sort of say like this was their move these last couple of weeks, and I do think that most survivor votes are really consensus votes. It's mostly things that happen through conversation. You know, I never realized subscribe to the idea that just because someone says a name I that they are the one who actually makes vote happen. It really is all about sort of like who can muster the the social forces. But, but you know, I I agree especially, you know, we haven't seen. It does seem like every one of them is really an active player and a really engaged players. So yeah, I agree that it doesn't seem like there's any real goats left in the game. And yeah. Interesting. Okay. All right. Let's do one or two more questions. Thomas has a question was Devon's performance to dramatic. Or was it just what the jury wanted to see. I mean, did you see the reaction from that jury? I mean. Julia was Lansing. Yeah. I mean, I really do think that the the jury likes their board right there the tribal councils like their big adventure. Like, it's where they and so like keep them entertained, even it's not just the players getting the jury's getting out of their seats and dancing. Yeah. Well, it was. I think of at the celebration. Like, I thought it was a little unseemly a little too much. Well, you have a huge group. Now. It's getting rockets. I guess so I guess they're probably. Yeah. Yeah. A nine person jury, which is like a bigger jury voted in either of our first seasons. Right. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's as big a jury Intel, I think that the until Cambodia was the biggest jury the jury now, I think is equal to that of Cambodia, and we still gonna put three more people on. Chris Stephen survivor is like a pinball machine now survivors like a pinball machine. It's like a roulette wheel being do. Segment. Engines e what pinball is I don't know. That's a good question. Probably is survivor like pinball. No. I mean, you can make an you. I guess so Nikki wants to know who's most likely to join a Rick. Julia Lien's and make the next tribal. Interesting. Can you see any of the the I'm trying to think of a word to describe them, the the the under edited four is there one of them that could flip to go to join Rick, and Julie I mean, maybe Aurora Aurora has seemed to be the most independ-, you know, the most sort of Iran her in her Julie have no love loss. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. But I don't I don't think Rick Julie thing would happen again. Like like, Julie deceived ring, and Rick is not like, I mean, I it's it's not chess pieces, and Rick especially as someone who takes things personally. He's like an emotional guy. I thought Tory are connected now. Yeah. It seems I I'm with you. I'm with you on. Okay. All right, Scott to another. All right. This'll be the last question, and we'll wrap things up either Lorna, Victoria need to eliminate each other due to having similar under the radar strategic games or can either one point two spirit moves in order to win think that's getting too cute. Lauren and Victoria. Yeah. I don't know. I think that you know, from the perspective, maybe they seem to us. But from the perspective of the other players like I think they probably have like dramatically different relationship. You know, like one was on less and has a great story there about being in the underdog alliance and the other was you know, kind of dodged down you've offered at Lord's. Forget lords Jordy. Yeah. So I think that actually they they are, you know, have pretty different stories to tell even though they sort of ended up in a kind of similar condition right now. Right. Let's start to wrap this up. And then Stephen, and I are going to take your calls over on fan credit. You wanna get on fan credit dot com and get the app, you can do so news a f- Woodstock fifty cancelled Stephen fishbach, I know was already planning on being out there. This August in upstate New York. Stephen I'm sorry to say Woodstock fifty is cancelled. 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Global Impact Episode 1

Global Impact Podcast

32:36 min | 11 months ago

Global Impact Episode 1

"Hi and welcome to global impact podcast designed to help you find the freedom to accomplish more with your life increase the productivity of your team and make a difference the lives of people around the world. I'm your host Jay. Oliver Baked joins. Hello this is jade w oliver with global impact. And I'm so excited to have a dear friend Miss Kim bearden. Hello how are you. I'm doing great J. W how are you. I'm fantastic Kim. As the CO founder Executive Director and the language Arts Art Teacher at the Ron Clark Academy there in Atlanta The information you brought over fifty thousand educators through but I bet that's more from the information. Yeah I read. How many educators have you brought through somewhere between seventy and seventy five thousand at last count? Yes from around exit problem all around in the country but probably outside of the country guessing around the world absolutely everywhere from Australia to China to Africa from everywhere. Two Thousand Sixteen. Kim was honored at the White House for being inducted to the national teachers. Donald Fame recipient of the Disney teacher award chosen as an influence her award and and Women's work group named her one of Georgia's most powerful and influential women. which you on the same level as Oprah? I believe that Eh. Not Quite there over the past thirty one years as she'd been a teacher. Instructional League Teacher Curriculum Director School Board member staff developer written two books. She racking your third book today. You have four lovely children and you have a very cool husband named Scotty take the shadow also and your kids. Tell us about your family as well. If you don't mind. Well I am a mother of four. I have a beautiful daughter who is going to be thirty and just a little over a week and When she had already become a out of the house Mary living on her own? We actually Salihi travel a lot to South Africa with our school and several years ago. I three beautiful boys in Soweto South Africa and do a journey of only what could be described Crabbie's miraculously abuse are now Three cents and so I have three sons they are all eighteen years old. They are not biological brothers but they are definitely brothers now and They are all seniors in high school. And so my husband Scotty nine quite busy running from place to place and also have to tell you that. I've also got that dogs because you can probably hear one barking in the background. Because I'm at home today so I have a very full life my first alive and then of course. I've got a lot on my hands on my plate because I have a lot of extended children. That are my students in those three boys. I love to say their names to see those Sabella. pokka Mani is that correct. You see PLO Sabella and pocket money. That is the last one I know. That's what I call. The money goes by pot but that is just awesome and tell us how long Have you had the three boys. They've been with us about five and a half years now so on the night before their seventh grade year in school. And it's been a beautiful long long journey It's it's been filled with joy but also spent some challenges you know. We're still waiting for their citizenship. But were excited. That they have green cards now Soweto where they were there. Were a lot of gaps in The resources that they were able to have for learning and so when they came here. It was a tremendous amount of work for this the teachers at Ron Clark Academy Gorai 'em pouring into my sons and then also my husband and I we have to go home it. I sit there five six hours some nights to really try to catch them up academically on the things that they just never been taught. They were brilliant but they had just lacked access to knowledge which unfortunately too many children are will do in so now. I'm proud to say they are very strong students. They're doing very very well academically. And we're in the process of trying to decide and trying to figure out the whole college plan for them because they will be graduate into Bashir. Well I will say well fool disclosure. Kim and I have known each other since one thousand nine hundred seventy seven or eight and I was just one year old when I met her thereabouts but no we were in middle school together some way back. We're good friends then but I remember. I stayed at Your House a couple luke times when the boys had just the first year that were here and they were actually at RCA. And I remember how hard those boys would work in their class in the classroom. Dream of the RIM and stay up late. I mean literally would go to bed and Yoon Scotty both would be up helping those kids with Europe and work. Well you know. That's what parents love is all about right right you do you for the kids and I just knew that they were so bright they just needed to have somebody who would not believe in them. Sit with them work with them and help them are they needed to. And it's amazing. Using how beautiful that whole journey has begin then because now they go to the rooms and they do their homework all by themselves which makes life a lot simpler because they are able to do the work on their own in a you know those times were hard. They were long days because I had so many responsibilities at the academies well but I look back to. They were beautiful because it was just time for us not only to sit there and work with academics. But there's just much bonding to place as a family. You know those hours at that table sitting there night after night really route route to know each other even more so it was bittersweet I would say definitely a special time and the development of our family how we grew to note. Joe We yeah. That's that's what you never thought about looking at it quite that way but the opportunity to spend more time with them and the developmental age came closer and some precious memories. Chris and you're coming to the end of the empty nest. Is that right in the beginning of the emptiness you know yes and so my daughter had already left. You know she. My daughter is much older and and so we had been empty nesters before we adopted the boys but this time. I don't know if it's my age what it's effective and much worse. I'm really sad. And our houses. Sort of the hub. It's the place there's always kids there's always people there's just so much commotion and Noise and all their friends are always here and so I think having three leave at once I'm really gonNA feel that I it's GonNa be a different time and so it's GonNa be hard for me. Most of his friends to that one chambers that house. That's for sure exactly exactly Kim. You you've made a tremendous impact obviously on your four children You've made a tremendous impact on friends like me. I'm always encouraged by what you do. But I gotta say what you do. At Ron Clark Academy is nothing short of miraculously now written two books on your third as you mentioned. You've had seventy five thousand plus educators. Come through we talked about you. Got Fifteen thousand a year and that's really what influences kids teachers spend more times with children. Their parents do as growing up so those can be very influential. Why don't you tell me a little bit about how Ron Clark Academy got started at? You met wrong because that's a cool. The story I think it's interesting to tell the listeners about that as well absolutely so I have been at an educator actually for thirty three years but in the year two thousand I was named as Disney teacher of the year. which had all this fanfare was a wonderful opportunity? Wonderful honor but that's fine at Ron Clark. And he had all this passionate all this joy and he was named as the Disney teacher of the year. And so we just hit it off. We had the opportunity to spend a lot of time together. We realize that our philosophies on education how we will creativity and passionate about relationships with kids that we had a lot of similarities and so he looked at me one day. And you said you know what you and I should start a school together. One day Educator say all the time a lot of teachers say I in my own school well. Here's what be what I would do so I said sure that sounds great but I honestly did not think that it would happen But then Oprah had the Disney teachers on her show which is very cool. Who'll but she was very taken by Ron? He had taught role North Carolina and then he had moved to Harlem. It was having success with kids of some of the people have given up on and so during the commercial break. She said you've got to write a book. And if you remember Oprah book picks and so you know Oakwood tells you to write a book you write the book right so he wrote a book about how he had created the climate culture of his classroom in Harlem about how it was a mixture of joy and passion are the essential fifty to fifty five rules. But I I really prefer just expectations. The palley treat one another how we have flipped one support one another. The book wasn't doing so well drank like one hundred forty thousand on Amazon. And so he sent Oprah a copy and she remembered him. I love the book. Made it a book pick remember back in the days when she would have book picks on her and so she looked into the cameras that America go out and buy this book in our after the show was number. retune the nation right behind Harry Potter Ron Elving Someone who's very passion driven and student focused. He realized he could retire or he could take the money do something for the greater good and so he took the money and he put it into a foundation called me up and he said I'm serious. Let's start school and so He said Said Come to Harlem and I said You know what I said my family's here in Atlanta you come to Atlanta. I'll do and I won because the schools no he came to Atlanta. We looked at about fifty sites sites all over. We found a dilapidated one hundred year old factory in It was is wanted to community second-highest crimes on area of Atlanta and the state agents said this is no place for a school but looked at each other said. It's perfect because we want to be in a place where we could uplift to communities well and so took his three years after that is going to different people because that use took all the money to purchase the facility the building And after that we were able to open our doors so at the time I was a principal of another middle school and It's actually a private Christian school. I've been public education education most of my career but I had been at a private Christian School for about three years and helped start the middle school there which actually ended up being one of those steps that you realize that was a God 'cause it there's foundational and helped me understand how to start this school and And we opened our doors but the reason we had so much support was their schools everywhere. Somebody somebody people want to start a school people. Call me all the time and sad love to start a school. How did you do it? But it's because we had a bigger plane we wanted to affect is many children in this world as we possibly. We wanted to speak as we do not talk to come to our school every day. We thought how can we have a global impact. How can we affect children's classrooms everywhere? Because there's so many factors that affect a child's success in the classroom but the single greatest one above all else is the teacher in front of the classroom. We said well we do it through their teachers and Dan so in the world of education Something that doesn't make much sense as you know quite often we received training. We only received training when you're sitting in a library or you're sitting in a theater. Her but very rarely do teachers ever watch other teachers. Teach you know if I want to be a master surgeon. I'M GONNA operate along other master surgeons for life or master parking professors who teach it's about business but they've never been in business in the business world rights for teachers. You have your student teaching experience which you may be with a good teacher. Maybe not And then you never watch another another teacher's long as you live you're in a building with them but you close your door and so we said teachers need to be able to see what excellence looks like and so we got the best teachers. We could find anywhere we've put them into one building and instead of closing our doors. We opened our doors when teachers come. We have something called Arshi. EXPE- your experience and teachers come to our school and they sit in our classes and they and watch US teach not because we're perfect such thing but because it gives them a opportunity flip to learn to cease methods of work with different types of learners and then they also attend workshops shots. Were we go more in depth and so we thought it wasn't that idea We had no idea how good it would be though because as I said you know hundreds almost every single week and you know. Now we're up in seventy five thousand we used to have about a first year. We had about fifteen hundred teachers calmed and three thousand and now we're up to fifteen thousand educators cheer to the academy to learn methods into take-back. Okay come back so we estimate the magnitude of the ripple effect of that students are being affected. Is something that were were quite grateful for. Yeah you mentioned earlier we were talking about just the number of teachers that you've talked or into the program but then the number of students that they sit in front one of each day. I think you said that the calculator could be as many as a million students day just in you know at any given moment and then you think about the effect of over their lifetime from you know the end so if they teach they've come to our school for the next three years. Some teachers affect teach hundred fifty kids a year teacher teach thirty but it definitely is definitely they at least a million. That's a conservative estimate of teachers who have been affected by the program. We have so You know we started using this Hashtag. RCA inspired on social media following that. Is We ask teachers. Now you've been here. You're doing lessons are work. That's been inspired by your visit here. Let us know that's been beautiful and overwhelming and heart warming and awesome something. That's inspired us to keep pushing because we see the effect that we're able to have well. It's impressive I remember the first time I came I came. mm-hmm it right at Thanksgiving one time and we're having a Thanksgiving meal. I've been there prior to the building being early on early on. I remember my kids. Even Cain Yeah Yeah we were there the day before Thanksgiving believe in you were having an event what are the most inspiring things that I remember specifically is how you teach the handshake Jake. You look people in the eye. It's yes sir no Sir tell us a bit about that because in my opinion growing up in a very strict home with a father who was in the military. Yes yes sir no sir to me that was maybe the single most impressive because that's impacting. Not only those children but the world around them and the people that need to absolutely we teach those soft skills and it's a huge part of our program. Now we're we're very loving we give hugs and we love our kids and foreign to them. But I've seen lots of hugs is a very loving link place but we also very strict and so we have high expectations for students. I like to say that high expectations are your outward manifestation of your beliefs and someone if you have low expectations -tations really simple baby. I don't think you can do it either. And so we have high expectations but we provide the support to get them there and part of that we think is our students are able to operate. Once they leave our our school. We want our students be able to walk into any room and feel like they belong there. I want my students to have confidence. I want my students to know that they could be in a room. Full of presidents kings the CEO's but yet they're still there goes the dog. I want. My skin is comfortable flavor personal flavor to it but I understand lawsuits. OSU's know that they can be you know surrounded by CEO's kings and Queens and they sit right there and they belong in that room just as much and so on and that is really not. How do you give a firm handshake howdy? Howdy look someone? The I speak with confidence. How do you carry on a conversation because we all know that you know you can have all the knowledge in the world but if you don't know how to convey it how to share it or even how to get your foot in that door then sometimes you know all that knowledge doesn't get you where you you deserve to be and so it's a big part of what we do at our school? And so I. I think it's important also illustrate. It's it's more than just about instruction teaching in a certain way how to do math or how to do reading skills but you teach in an innovative way to how would would you explain that. I've I've watched it. Numerous times have been still impressed by. I love to watch him some videos. And I've seen on it but tell me a little bit about how you would describe your teaching mechanisms mechanisms. Are you teaching ways and teach. Well I like to say we use a lot of movement music music and we sprinkle it with a little bit of magic and so you know Michael Michael is. I want students who my bed at night and they can't wait to go to school the next day I want kids do lie there and go what's going to happen. How's it going to be not that? I don't think it's my job to entertain. Need my students but I do think it's my job to instill a love for learning with my students and so some days are very traditional. But you'll never have kids just sitting there for an hour straight getting talked at instead. We're talking with them. We're having conversations we're having discussions but we also interspersed that would lots of movement lots of energy. There's there is dance their song. You don't have to be able to dance swelled but sometimes just you know be able to use laments arm arm gestures you know different kinds of ways to use your body different ways to get around the room because we have kids who are falling asleep in class ask nobody was talking about Finland. Finland is the gold standard. What are they doing in Finland to have those high test scores on Finland forty five minutes of class? Fifteen minutes of recess forty five minutes past fifteen in the recess so we're not structured like that but what we do is we immerse their students in a learning situation where they do get to move they get they get to speak they get to they new coral response but they also have in-depth dialogue about things that are happening so it's really just people watch US teach I think award that always permeates The conversation is joy. There is joy for learning in our classrooms. And I want this kids who've been reluctant learners or been unsuccessful donor's to love learning because then they're going to be more inclined to be able to dig in and do the hard work really. The academically very challenging school and our kids we have tremendous results with them kids of all different ability levels for unskilled. When they come to us they leave US prepared for to do great things? It's funny how you say. How how you use mechanisms use excitement for people to remember always remember Chris? Hey remember silly stuff. Arithmetic take was always a hard word to spell. I don't remember if it was one of my English teachers to the math. It was a rat in the house may eat the ice cream for me too those words you had arithmetic so it was very interesting to to to keep remembering how you do that as well right and so those kind of things they stay with rickie forever you remember them forever. Yeah no it's it's it's it's interesting how those will stick with me and stay within become part of your DNA if you will as well so let me ask you this. So you're impacting the children that are coming there. You're impacting teachers. That are around but possibly that the biggest impact is what. How's how's it impacted on you? Can you think of a way or a person or coach for a long time for maybe kindergarten the case college that impacted who you are and what your vision values artists now other than you J. W. force that's a given we. Didn't I wanNA talk about that. Thank you I would say that you know two things I would say that I'm a daddy's girl and my father. Father taught me a lot. My father what I lived with my father is that everybody loved my father because he's kind My father had had a great job. My father was very driven. My father was very focused. My father worked very very hard but even employees. You know many years after he's retired even right now my dad. This is struggling with his health and he has people he hired twenty years ago who come and visit him on a regular because they say he was the best boss of one four and it should because he was kind in. He taught me to be kind to everybody and my dad had joy. My Dad was one of those people that would just laugh all the time so at times when sometimes people can't believe that I'm in the middle of no drama and I'll just be laughing and they're at my daddy taught me this tipping your really uniform as well. Yeah right so I just I C even the you know in in life has never been perfect for any of us. But I've been through some really dark periods of my life but even in the darkest hour I was able to find joy and I think my dad taught me he was a man of great faith on is a man of great faith and I think that was important and then of course. I had some teachers. That really inspired me. I I think the teacher that was transformative for me that I had a teacher in high school nameless dismantling Mom and she was a teacher at the thought. Me English my love for English. I loved her class. But this doesn't high school but I have have a distinct memory that I was. I was on the flags. The drill team and I was out on the football field. Any I don't even remember why but I was teenage angst and I had tears in my eyes and I was. I was overwhelmed and tired and I don't even know why was upset and I remember. She looked at me she saw and she came into my hand and she walked me over to a bench and she sat down. She just started to rub my back and she said are you okay and I said I don't know what's wrong with me and are never just bursting into tears and honestly I don't remember what was wrong. It may have been nothing. I think it may have been hormones but I remember that she just sat there with me for about fifteen minutes and just talk to me and talk calmly into me and it was a moment for me that I realized that this teacher sees me but she really sees me. She cares about me and she noticed that I was I needed. Something just needed that moment of comfort and so I've bat that is kind of always been instrumental and how I treat. My students is that I try to always make sure I see them. I noticed those things that if a child doesn't a moment you know you need to take that extra time and not only students just human beings. We have to take time to see each other so she was a huge influence on Amazon teacher. Well and and I think you'd also pointed out everybody hasn't something positive about him. Not Everybody is all negative. We all have our downfalls. I've got plenty more than my share things that we're good at things we're not we're GONNA but isn't it about you mentioned in seven years six principal. Some of it's about validation some of it's about motivation appreciation. I think those are the six principles you talk talk about. Those are the things that can lift somebody up. I've noticed even if I would say well. How come your hair looks pretty today? Maybe you haven't heard that. Maybe maybe they haven't heard that in years and sometimes it's just the little compliment that I think can be uplifting and motivation and impactful or form as well and can change the way they feel about so the world around them so what you just pointed out about your teacher is is part of that whole process of of lifting up around us and I think that's one of our old. Yeah absolutely and I think that's what's instrumental it. People need an is when you're going through a difficult time when you're feeling overworked or overwhelmed or hurting oren pain that honestly one of the greatest things you can do is reach out with somebody else up because it pulls you up in the process I think a lot of times we go into service and we think well. I'm going to go into service to to to change that person's life but One of the most beautiful benefits of that or affects about is. If you go into change somebody else's life really the life has changed as your own. You Know I. I know working in Zimbabwe where we have our company will be. It's you always think well I'm here. I'm changing lives. I'm changing somebody lives when I go there find. My Life Gets changed appreciative they are. We've got people who make very low wage compared to what we make here in the US. But you'll see them contributing their time and their money. So you're right if you will if you can always look to see how you can invest in others. I think you're going to impact them. You'RE GONNA lift them up and you're going to change those people view other people in the world you know in a sign of that too is sometimes when you do serve others you lift up others. They may not respond the way you want to. If you go into it where you're looking for you know them to Fawn over you make a big deal over and then then you may be disappointed sometimes so when you go to serve others. I think you have to go into looking in you know not at not at changing them but changing you because you. You don't have to worry so much about that. You're worried about houses on a change me and made me a better person. I need us. Focus on what I'm doing in in the work that I'm doing and trying to do the best that I can And that what will you be more inclined to just continue to serve. But I know that for me and my darkest times in my life for the most frustrating on most difficult when I was able to go do something for somebody else without a doubt it always made me feel better yep absolutely in investing in others. There's no doubt about it. That's absolutely right so we've all can make an impact. I think one of my goals in life is to realize that you may not make a million dollars. You may not donate a million dollars to the Ron Clark Academy route that chicken make a big donation or be impactful but you know we all have time. We all can benefit from from helping others One of the things that I really folks so now's also finding freedom is freedom from being weighed down by by life's pressures way down about financial issues or maybe over commitment. I think some of the hardest things I've learned to do is same. Note that you can't say yes to all the opportunities because there's just not enough time you're gonNA sacrifice your personal time your family turn your spouse KC so when I when I asked you that what is it that you do. What's one thing that you do that helps you find some freedom away from the daily rigors amok? Well I will tell you that I do find times I completely overwhelmed because I do. Have you know all of my professional. Life is very very important in my family. Of course which is the most important the thing to me. And how do you juggle that it can be impossible but I have learned that it's arrogant to think that you can't stop and take time to be still you know it's almost like Oh. I have to be doing this for everybody all the time. Well you know I need to trust the God. God's got it for a minute because he wants me to go and rest and but for me One of my favorite things that I've started to do. Is I go on gratitude walk. That's what I call it. Okay so what I do is I go on a walk and I instead instead of listening to music or if I do listen to music I just listened to instrumental music like some classical music or something like that and I try to the entire duration. Walk only to think about things that I'm grateful. And it's all-star off with the big picture things. I'm grateful for my you know my family. I'm grateful for my job things like that but then I start to even look around you know. I'm grateful for the beautiful sky and I'm grateful for the trees and then I started thinking about things about my physical being. I'm breaking I can't think of law I'm grateful I can move. I I can walk in. My heart is beating. I can feel the sun on my shoulder. The wind is in my hair and and so I do that. I focus on the entire force of the wall and so when I get back it's amazing. Just the sense of calm the sense of peace that comes over and then when you when you try to put you at shift on gratitude. It's amazing how those little Things that are that bother us that way down that annoy us. They don't seem as important and so That's just a great time out to me. Like I need to go take a walk but but when I do I always return much stronger and better. Sometimes maybe you don't go for what maybe just go sit somewhere and go sit on a bench somewhere. Go sit somewhere where there's peace and quiet the really take the time to get into that space of gratitude. It really does change. I think your perspective on everything. That's happening Ranji. You know. I'm a got a friend. And who says the first word God's word and he just means that when he wakes up in the morning the first word most read first words you most here before he flips on the TV before he does anything else. Most God's work and I think that's a good lesson for me. I'm trying to really buy that. I'm not great at it but I'm getting better at. It is just to take a few minutes and like you said be still not the I'm God and I think that we don't have to always be talking. We don't have always be a being verbal with our gratitude or thankfulness on purpose. Let's just stop for a minute to slow down. Let those wheels quit spend all this. Yeah that's that's a good lesson an attitude of gratitude or maybe that your next book the gratitude block. Well you know. There's IT's interesting because I've been reading. There's some research and some back gratitude all the time and especially right now as we're reporting this it's near Thanksgiving but they really have the scientists have even shown that people that have Spirit of gratitude did it really. The helps their their mental wellbeing physical wellbeing. We know it helps our souls but it also so even helps their ability to handle stress sometimes even extend your life and so so there's so many benefits to it when you focus on on what we're given what we are grateful to have not. Well I think the current world today will also to focus on the things. We don't have bothered with commercials about things we don't have but if we can focus on what we do have and how we've been blessed. I think he can change the way we view the world ourselves. Our families our relationships I believe marriages can be significantly impacted by maybe focus on gratitude. What is it about my spouse not necessarily what is the thing that don't like I'm sure my wife can? I didn't like about me but if we focus on the things we do I think that's eight mid one last thing you ratna book. What's your next big goal? What your next big dream? Well in the media get this book done is You know I believe in definitely having dreams and goals but I also know that sometimes I'm so shortsighted because you know what God manifests sometimes. It's so much greater than anything that could of ever or drink for myself so I I would say to to follow his lead. You know to be mindful and to be still into listened to have my footsteps guided by where I think he lied. It's neat but For me other than my family being so much to me. My Education is vitally important to me and We have so so many students who still lack the resources lack the opportunities that I think every child deserves for a good education. So I'll continue to fight for that those children and also for teachers teachers There's a tremendous amount teachers in this country who are overworked overwhelmed. Underappreciated ready to quit dropping out. Profession underpaid Struggling to you know even pay the bills for their own families A large number teachers are disillusioned with fashion and what they do is so important and so. That's a big part of what I do too is i. I really try to empower educators. I try to remind them of what they do. I tell them you know. They're they're seeking significance with their lives and You know one of the things we talked about that exponential effect. What does that affect the life of a kid? You don't only affect the kid you also affect that child's future spouse children extended family members friends colleagues business partners employees neighbors I media members. Everybody that child will impact on his well. Because of what you put into that child and so you know for me my goal is you know with. We're building a new facility at our school where we can invite even more educators to come and we can continue to pour into them and to provide even more indepth training and resources and and also inspiration and motivation and just validation for them so that they can continue to go on and do the hard work and so that's where my focus is right now is Finishing his book up to pour into them but also finishing this facility so that we can even increase the number of educators able to affect and thereby increase. The number of students rebelled affect as a man in Kim. I I just have to say that what you're doing. has not only affected so many teachers lives. And I'm going to have to agree with you hundred percent. I can't think of any any profession anywhere in the world. That's more impactful than teachers parents. Absolutely that's a given but teachers really have the opportunity to pack. Students not only their learning but in their motivation and their self image how they feel about life direction their goals where they're headed. And so what you've done. What Ron done with around car Kademi Adamy influencing not just those new students each year but influencing the educators have come through in the plus students that they're sitting in front of every day I personally thank you for making such an impact on our world because it does make a difference and I think you're making a great impact in many areas. Thank you my friend and and there's one other thing so first of all who is the junior high principal at Sunday that year. Do you remember that. Let's see how bright you are. Aw Come on Mr Hill Mr Hill and Kim Song because you might. Is that more time in that principal's office than I did. That would have been Mr Huddleston. He was the one who gave licks. He was the Vice Doodo him. What what Kim? It's been a joy. Thank you so much for doing this. Hero global impact. And you're making a major impact the world and just thank you and thank you for being a great friend. Do who I do appreciate that. Thanks again for joining us. On another addition of global impact subscribe grabbed her podcast on Itunes and deesor and follow us on facebook. Links will be description below until next time. Stay inspired stay motivated and make an

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Survivor 38 Episode 10 Wiggle Room with Josh Wigler

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Survivor 38 Episode 10 Wiggle Room with Josh Wigler

"Therefore, we get into this week's addition of the wiggle room. I wanna take a moment and ask you if you know how much you're paying for your car insurance because maybe you have a good rate or maybe your car insurance rate might be what Rick Devon's thought he was at tribal council. So there's only one way to find out if you're getting a good deal on car insurance, or if you're spending too much money, those are friends over at a s the auto insurance specialists, and they can use their smart technology to shop the rates of dozens of insurance companies in just a few seconds. You might find out that you could be saving hundreds of dollars. Just go ahead. Go online to a I s insurance dot com slash rob. Enter and your car information, you're driving history in any of those other pertinent details. And they will match you up with the coverage in the carrier that you want you might find that you're. Saving a lot of a money. Don't be a passenger on your car insurance. Be the pilot and make sure that you are saving the most money with AIDS don't make your next insurance payment until you. Check your rates with AIDS. All you have to do is go to AS insurance dot com slash rob. Or call one eight hundred seven seven seven four A s it's the easiest thing you can do today to save a lot of money on your car insurance. Josh. Learn. Learn. Learn. Learn. Yeah. We're room. Yeah. Yeah. We back. We back. Back. Yeah. It's like we never left. Josh wig ler. What a week it's been since you, and I last spoke year on the podcast, David Kelly. No. Yup. My god. But what an evolution of stret- escalated quickly on survivor. The you know, we do they set it on the show. Right Wardag from Wardag slips to the survivor. God's ears anytime. We've got these returning players on one of these seasons. You either you either win or you make it to the end. He's calling out coach the runners up of the world's and he's he's he's preaching wisdom. And now we've got a situation where there's no return is left in the act of game always shot. One of them could come back through the through the edge of extinction. But fascinating time in survivor history at the very least so cool staff. Lots to talk about this week. Okay. A lot to get to here today with Josh wiggle or on the episode number ten edition of of the wiggle room. And then. Later on in this podcast. Some wand off are getting played Pooley later on in this show. You're not dreaming. I was dreaming. I was I was having nightmares because I was missing out on all of the sweet sweet wand off action in Philadelphia this past week with the wand off all stars sing in the KIA theme. I was so proud of my little babies on stage when I heard them in my years. So wish I could have been there originally Brett Lebel was scheduled to open up festivities as per usual. And he was going to be performing with a backing track. Played by Jason Curtis Rivera, and then Brett Lebel had to back out because of the amazing race that he was going to be having a party in Boston that there was some talk that he actually came all the way out to Philadelphia and then forgot. Come to the show. And then we just went back to Boston. That was that's an amazing race joke. And so I get. Well, I get it. Yeah. Now. What do I do? Yeah. I'm gonna come down now. Yeah. So some time in this podcast just like in Meiring his his full blue bodysuit in orange wig concert because it was great. He was I mean, those are those are wombat colors wearing. Yeah. So he was the hat personified. The wand off all stars were together. All in one place for a we are the world like moment. Yeah. It was great. It was wonderful. I wish I could have been there. But it was it was great on the podcasts. It seems like you guys had a blast in Philly. Yeah. We had a really great live show. I was really happy. I was nervous because of all of the I think we have Jervis never nervous. Yeah. I was nervous because we had so many people that were that Metra was like thirteen or fourteen guests that we had that were there in attendance for the live show, which is a lot of people to work through. But I really thought that it went together pretty well. And it was a pretty tight show. Unlike sometimes where I think I have not done as good of a job with that in the past. I thought it was turned out to be a really fun live show. It turned out to you. Nice. I mean, I think that you you've never had a bad live show in the entirety. Well, that's not what people on Twitter of told me. Josh, I feel I feel like every single live show has been absolutely perfect without a single technical. So yes, you're not gonna get you saying anything bad about anything. But I don't really want to. I don't think I got one tweet this time around that was I hate when you guys have the live shows because it's a worst podcast, then when it's just you and Stephen in the studio, did you just tighten your filters since L Aslam filmings. Thanks. Oh, you've no filters. No banners. White House vica, very calloused ego. Then because. Yeah. Filters up the was that's right. That's right. I need. I need the negative feedback to makes me stronger. Now makes me weaker. I don't need any of that. Okay. Talking about the card against jazz. Okay. All right. No. I got I got my share in the last couple of podcasts more on that to come. All. Right. So Josh twig ler. Here we are with David and Kelly who went out back to back on the live show and really setting the stage for David e Kelley because they eat is now edge of extinction. Yeah. Josh, I think it might be a good place just to touch on. So I do at the live show liked to record the tribal council. So I have the audio of David getting voted out and Kelly getting voted out in the room. Do you hazard to guess, which the bigger response from the crowd? Yeah. Oh. That's a good question. Which is the big response because I was going to say, I imagine both of them got a pretty big pop. I would guess I would guess that the Wentworth one was a bigger shock because they think after her not playing the idol people probably assume that that means she's going to be safe. And then when she's getting voted out with an idol in her pocket and joining the illustrious ranks of Andrea and Aubrey before her that must have gotten a huge reaction. So I'm going to guess that Wentworth got the big she's she RHA AP in many ways built the Kelly Wentworth hype machine. So to lose the Queen. They stand in a in an evening where everyone is gathered together, I would expect the Wentworth hype won the day. Although I'm sure people were very very sad about David as well. Okay. Here's the David tribal council. Two. Right. That was David. That's gotta make you feel good. If you're David Wright. And you're you're listening to people react in that way. Like, a huge room of survivor fans being devastated to that one jerk. Clapping that might have been sent by Mike blue. Yeah. I was gonna say might bloom trawl was was sent to Philadelphia. I really get a great performance by by David right at that final tribal council. Yeah. So what are you gonna do? I mean, maybe maybe enough about the the loyalty brandy. That was that that itself was was very very funny. So no complaints from me. I was to see him very three hundred forty people in attendance at punchline in Philly for that show. Okay. So let's then listened in on the Kelly tribal council. Okay. That's her not playing her idol. Danger in the air. One vote left. Let them. I thought we might have had a ride on our hands job. Yeah. That sounds tough. We had like double red wedding. Two in one night. But fitting it's fitting as we like to talk about the overall story of the season. So perfect that David and Kelly who we talked all season long end up going out back to back in one episode. It was tremendous. It was tremendous. And I again. Yeah. From for that sort of meta perspective. I really appreciate that. And the other thing about this season is that they're they're gone. But are they really they're the the ghost in the wind? Now, they're they're still participants in the show. So that takes a little bit of the sting out that like no matter what even if one one of them can't win their way back into the game. They're going to be in this for for the long haul. Now, we're going to have them in every episode moving forward in a fairly meaningful way. You would assume. So, you know, I guess one of the fringe benefits of sanction. Okay. And let's assume that David Kelly. Ali don't get back into the game. Do you look back hypothetically after the season is over and just feel what could have been if David and Kelly could have ever gotten on the same page for more than one vote. I really I cannot wait to I can't wait for the season to end for a couple of reasons. But one of the reasons being I I'm really excited for these people to be uncorked and for some of them at least to get on podcasts to do interviews and talk about what happened out there and among the stories. I'm most curious about is what happened between David and Kelly because Kelly never really said anything about David in the preseason to me. But David said to me in the preseason what he said to me also in the act of player interview that we posted on HR last week, which is that he loves Kelly Wentworth. He's a huge fan of hers from second chance it's baby season. But he had this sneaking suspicion. That she just wasn't. And that she's just wasn't a huge fan of his. And this goes beyond a an interview with me, right? Yeah. I don't know. I have no idea. Something must have had. I can't get this. Right. I don't think you can get bud aimed for this. I don't think that this is your fault. But I wonder what happened. I wonder what happened. I think that David is a guy who plays on gut instinct to some degree. He talks about it on the show about his survivor Spidey sense and his survivor Spidey sense was tingling, and it told him that Kelly Wentworth was going to be the green goblin to Peter Parker and action must be taken. And I wanna know why. I wanna know I want to know what happened because I do think that especially after everybody was able to get together and get rid of Julia and everything that happened with that if they could have just if they could have just like rebounded from that moment. And maybe the original less crew could have really stuck together. That's what's going to happen. I thought so too. But I think we gotta be talking. We gotta be talking about the the story of the the new rising star of the season. Which is his ears are tingling. I'm sure is he's listening to this the war dog who who is the engineer behind these. Okay. So Josh, I would love to get your opinion on what happened because as has been the case all season long that Stephen and I had opposite views on this move from war dog was your take on this. Do you feel like war dog strike too early? I think he may have struck too early. But I don't know. I think it's I think it's possible. He struck too early. He must know that she has an idol. I feel like he must know that she has an idol. Otherwise, this move doesn't make a ton of sense to me that like getting rid of her this early because it's going to be like too hard to get rid of her down. The line must be thinking. And it's only going to be too hard to get rid of her down the line if he's aware of some idols and play not because of the relationships that she has built into the game because it doesn't feel like she has an insane amount of sturdy relationships in the game at that point like she's openly targeted. Rick Devon's of the past vice versa. She's really tight with Lauren, obviously. But other than that her tightest ally is the ward so I feel like he wore dark must have not felt comfortable going all the way to the top with Wentworth that it just he needed more flashy needed a little more possess on his resume. He really needed to start toning. It up a little bit more. And maybe this is the time. He feels like he needs to make that turn. But I feel like it may have been too early because I think one of the things that has been really. Great and sharp about word is Gabe is that he has been really he's been really savvy in terms of keeping people in front of him that are more threatening. That was that was something that I thought that that was really smart about the way he played the early game and getting rid of Chris, and maybe making himself a little more valuable, and maybe making David and Wentworth a little more obviously dangerous in the process, and a few of those types of moves in the fact that he had this call and card of loyalty to to Wentworth and Lauren that maybe selling that now with still so much game left on the clock just might have been a little bit fast. Then again, if he if he's reading the tea leaves and seeing that, you know, the landscape is changing, and he needs to be shaking up relationships, and he needs to be able to get to the end in earn some of those old comma votes than he really needs to be making inroads with those old comma people and showing that he is willing to vote. Wentworth? Maybe that shows that he is willing to work closer with comma. So I don't know. I think if I had to make a rowing I feel like it's a little too early. But I don't fully, you know, put my thumb down to the logic. And I'm certainly deeply entertained. This is the Tony clones this is like the most unlike the wacko meter. He's he's like he's taking pretty pretty high up there. This is one of the clones that Tony left behind in Fiji that like sprouted on its own like a gremlin that has eaten after midnight and a pop that of the mog wise back and this is war dog. Like that has that is what is has grown out there and Fiji like this feels like the most Tony esque game. I love the some of the so I guess the top of the wlac o meter when Johnny vox. When the block them either one hundred. This. Man. Ooh. It'll be. That place since game changing. Gotta get back in season. And then this is on Tony meter. I think. Block them. Yeah. I dunno. That's that feels pretty high that feels like you just broke the block of meter, but we don't know what the zero is. I don't go back to all the Tony soundbites. The. What about from the Ron Clark perspective because I think I think that really that this vote in particular. It's an interesting one because you have to where you had war dog who was the architect of this move. But then Ron Clark was the person who also had to turn his key to launch nuclear sub yet. Ron's doing great. I think when when when things went south for comma a few votes back. I was I was really kind of waiting to see Ron go pretty quickly kind of like feeling like that person. Who is at the head of an alliance that is suddenly that has suddenly dropping from power to to being very clearly on the bottom and being one of the guys the most vocal proponents of that alliance. I kind of figured we'd be seeing Ron on the edge of extinction. Very shortly. After Eric the fact that we not only haven't seen him out there. But he's really been instrumental in some of these votes. He seems to be working really closely with Wardag. Fun alliance for me. I really like those two together. And I'm hoping that they can do some damage moving forward. I think that that would be a really fun fun. Do oh to watch moving forward. I think no no skin off his back taking out David Wright and taking out Kelly Wentworth, these are people he met just a few days ago, really people that he's really just started working with and has had a flexible relationship with at best anything that keeps. Ron Clark alive is good for run Clark. So I think hard to ding this move from Ron respective except for Julie was on the outs of the vote. Right. That's a little dangerous does not seem to care for a Rohrer either and wrong behind her back to keep a row in the game. And so how will Julie react to this? Because she is somebody who has reacted in unpredictable ways to being on the wrong side of oats. I wanna get an ad of my head and out into the universe before. I forget. Get to that. I wanna see the war dog team up with a Rura. If only for the alliance name Aurora dog is just I want that out there. I want other people to run wild with that. I think it's I think it's a really it's a it's a question that we asking about about Julie who does not like to be blind sided who does not like to be left out of votes seemed like she really only trusted Ron during that whole period where everything went nuclear with with. Julia. And I don't know how how should we act? I mean, if Ron can convince her like, this was a really fast deal this came together very quickly, which of course. Genius editing on the war dog flashbacks that was so fun to watch. I'm just I'm not going to mention it. If I don't if I don't mention it. Now that was so much more like that the storytelling on survivor when we're in that kind of place where we're getting really creative in whimsical and play full. That's the stuff survivor more like that. That was tremendous that was that was very that was very season thirty seven of you keep pushing that board. I think we can take it. We can we can be very inventive with the story in the fans are along for the ride loved that. I feel like Julie I'm a little nervous about her reaction to run. I think Ron is savvy enough, and I feel like that they've got a solid enough relationship that they are going to be able to recover from it. Then again on this season. It's a little hard to know exactly how anybody feels each other. Because I think that the things change like night and day just based on the amount of information we've been able to to really process, and they've been really able to volley up towards us so hard to note, but a story wanting to watch this Wednesday. An interesting question for you right now, we're at the final eight right now. And the finally is war dog. Julie Ron Clark. Rick Devon's Gavin, Victoria, Lauren and Aurora. That's our final eight in the game. So of those last four people that I mentioned Gavin, Victoria, Lauren and Aurora. How many of them if you had to say right now will be in the final three of this season. How? Two or three zero one two three. Okay. So that's Gavin, Victoria, Victoria, and Lauren and Lauren. Oh, man. I would guess. Zero zero. I would say none of them. Okay. Glenora bleier. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say one it'll be Aurora. The dog is going to happen. Arrived. I will happen. I dunno impossible say like the same way that we said the other week. I have no idea who's winning? I gotta be honest. And I'm sure that it's a parent by now, I've got no idea. What the hell's going on this? I feel as in the dark on this season as I have ever felt while doing the podcast of the it is it is so tough to read because there's so many ingredients. And because I feel like I barely know. Some of these people still that it's it's hard for me to say, it's really really hard for me to say. But but I I don't really see like, I don't really see any kind of upper Lauren. I could I could see a prolonged inventory. I could see stories where they could pick up, and they could get there with with some momentum behind them victorious been a little more quiet recently than than I would like though, I love the way that she plays the game things. She plays the game in in a way, that's really fun to watch. And is has been working out for her really, really? Well, so far, Lauren. I would love to see her like propelled by the ghost of Kelly Wentworth and go on you know, crazy vengeance Kish. It'd be on Natalie Anderson type trajectory, I mean, I think that that's not impossible. You know, if she comes back this week and sorts putting the pieces together to take out war dog after what he did to Kelly after this vote. But if it doesn't we don't see it like right off the bat on Laura I kinda like that she might be drawing to. Yeah. I think so. But I mean, she's still got the idol you got to hope that the idol is gonna come into play in in some way, shape or form. Just because it hasn't yet. That's also that's also fun. I like that the the idols have been sorted dead in the water, but I have trouble seeing like the past victory for Aurora, even though she has spiked a bit recently. And I really I really love to beating him. And he he seemed like a really great guy. And I'm sure that he's playing a good subtle game. But I just don't see it for Gavin based on the show. Okay. Josh I have a couple of different things that I didn't get the play on the podcasts this week that I would like to this is one of my last chances to things are about to be getting late getting laid. I don't like to waste anything but over on the edge of extinction this week. There was a moment where everybody got wine bottles with a clue, and so we had to then find something that was a place that was hollow place that we would not stay would not stay. And so there were some different theories about what on the island is hollow. And I thought that Erica was might have been onto something here. I have an idea in my mind, where I think it's going to be it says something about when you're at your most hollow thing, maybe it means hungry. So then I think maybe it's near the rice bucket. It's not there. I mean, go figure I mean that makes it like. Hollow? You literally don't have any food in you. Right. Right. That makes sense. You know, maybe while we were sleeping they injected each of us with a micro advantage. Maybe the advantages inside are hollow stomachs. Yeah. We saw a couple of weeks ago that Ron Clark was trying to get everybody that hey, let's just think about the loved ones. Visit you know, wouldn't it be nice? If we could just sit back and just wait for the family visiting get to enjoy that. I do think that this might be runs of Goto line when he wants people to stay the course because this was Ron this week after that gloves off point for a million dollars. Right. It'd be nice. If we could just relax, right? Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice? Nobody do anything just have some nice easy votes per chain carts, really growing on me. I mean, I I thought that he was he had the he had potential, but he's kind of just a little bit of a flat character for a little while I'm loving post merge. Ron if we laugh. Did you see the thing? The dance was great. I I would have been really annoyed if Ron had gotten his way, and if comma could've gone everybody, I think would have just been very whatever television. But I like I really love seeing Ron Clark forced to dance for. It's been really really good. And that's really funny. Come on guys. Can't we just get along? Nice. If we could just have nice relaxing afternoon and not vote Ron Clark out of the game. Dame? Okay. This is another one that I want to play. I feel like that. I didn't see a lot of people talking about Jeff's description of the challenge. First person gets one ball in each of the five dimples. Yeah. Let's talk about those dimples. Jessica Jeff has a dimple challenger. Combining tipple challenge with the ball challenge. There's all there's a lot to be played there. Oh, yeah. Lots of stuff. I really I didn't play any of the play by play on the balls narration. The win. Can't do it. Bowl out yet again. Now, he's got through on the move. Indeed. Wow. This was Rick Devon's after the challenge that they were asking him about his challenge prowess. Every little white balls. Mom, asterik Devon's. Yeah. And. What about Julie's plane description? Josh you wanna talk anything about this. I realized on a passenger on someone else's brain. And I'm hitting the button right now. And I'm so glad that I did. Because like maybe I'm on my own little plane right now. But it's still meet flying the plane. Well, I like this idea that like everyone is like a JAMES BOND movie and like there's like this entire season of survivor or the post merge like the past couple of episodes. It's just been like one extended hallway fight on an airplane. Like, it's just like everybody has been like fighting to get off this plane, and then they're going from planes to New Orleans like tiny little and visit jets, and I feel like there's some great artists and animators in the survivor fan community, and the fact that we have not seen edge of extinction. Transposed into like literally like a Daniel Craig action movie feels like a great missed opportunity. And now, I'm just thinking about jewelry, Rosenberg as wonder woman in the invisible jet flying away towards the win. Josh if you had to give us a prediction for Wednesday night, who's going home? Who'd be going home gym on somebody for Wednesday. Man. I don't know. I feel I probably like one of the people that you you mentioned as like one of the back half. Remaining players. I I would say probably between Gavin Aurora for me would be my would be my bet like if Aurora can't win immunity again 'cause she's proven. She's a challenge threat. She's kind of been disagreeable on some of these votes. She's been on the outside. Maybe Ron knowing that she's got that extra vote. Maybe he's going to want to throw her off a little bit or something could happen there. So I guess gun to my head maybe Aurora if it's not going to be the Aurora dog all the way, if they're not going to be able to team together and be a force to be reckoned with. I would say maybe Aurora would be my bet I put by chip on Gavin this week fair to okay, the pineapple of it all reminds me that I don't think that I can comfortably go to the one without being. Allowed at least ten seconds to say pizza. Yeah. Yeah. Good challenge. Just sit up and instead beast on a mountain of pizza. Bish ously disgusting gross covered in all of coagulated cheese piled on top of each other the oils seeping into all of the other oily slices pizzas doesn't look like that. I heard that's so terrible Chucky cheese. They take a mountain of pizza, and then they turned into pizzas that they serve you. I've heard that as well. Allegedly at least at least allegedly and if true at least they have the decency of reassembling it into what is peace. Come on guys. Don't come on in just come on. It's terrible. Bring back spaghetti mount rather spaghetti mountain than pizza mountain. And I love pizza, but that was sensitive. It was a -fensive. It was -fensive. You know, I think the ding Mary kill on pizza mountains spaghetti mountain from triple h and the biggest plate of nachos. Anyone has ever seen allegedly from thirty seven. I think I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who I would marry. I don't know who I'd kill. I don't know who I would ding. I would be very upset with all of these action. Yeah. The CPS survivor Twitter account, like a tweet out a picture of like who would want some of this mountain of pizza like no, stop it. What are you doing? Nobody's. Yeah. They did that in the double episode, which one you would want the men pizza or the root beer. Yeah. In David versus Goliath during that episode. They have like a extreme the Twitter posted like an extreme close up of the sick-looking batch of nachos with the massively coagulated cheese so much graduated cheese on survivor lately. That's horrible. Well, it's wrong. It's morally bankrupt and it needs to stop. Okay. All right. We're going to start to head into the wand off unless you have any other reward observations. No, I'm still I'm just a little nauseous, so we'll cure my, okay. We'll cure you. Okay. 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If you have what it takes to get in the mind of a serial killer and solve the mystery not the mystery of why David Wright and Kelly went worth could never get along. That's different. That's different mystery. Or why they lost? That's a mystery to be solved by different pair of detectives. That's that's right. Why? I like that. Jessica Lewis, Dave, Bloomberg our detectives, I think that they're the closest thing we've got to private is on the r h AP now, I'm pretty sure. There you go any. And if you need to. Leave your lipid Nikki happy rest of my life. If it shut the circle. Just take your. You could. Happy. Oh, yeah. So it sweet musical tunes. It's time to listen to you. Josh did you hear the big news from Philadelphia that two of our patrons got engaged in Philadelphia? Yes. Love is in the. Yeah. Graduations to will. And Jess, and we'll pop the question not during the shelf just said she would not have liked that. But the day after the Philly live now at all we had a patron proposal mazal tov. I am very happy to hear that. I'm thrilled to hear that look at this. This this universe? You've created rob people. You're you're introducing people to each other the loves of each other's lives. You're connecting soulmates. You're you're you're grandfathering babies. Like incredible thing around Davies. Yeah. Your granddad. I'm the grandad. Godfather, maybe I should have said don't be way. Listen, what's that? Grandfather looks good on you. Old jokes. I don't think I've ever gotten grandfather a baby yet. I don't know. I don't know where I am anymore. I'm just trying to say that like you've done really good stike from. She don't get hung up on the grandfather. If at all. Okay. All right grandpappy. Rob. I feel like I mean granddaddy's these sixty is going to be your time to shine. Okay. All right. Well, maybe. All right. Josh, Tom, Westman hair. It's okay. So let's talk about last week on the wand off, of course, last week. It was a bit of a runaway last week. Okay. Okay. Third place. It was Karen from Canada who had pleasure of seeing this past week. And she had fifteen point seven three percent of the vote for Bob Petach. How could we forget? Yes. Scatalogical Wahdan Scott last got real in second place. Again. I can't tell you. How many second place finishes this band for Aaron Robertson? Sign on Netflix shman. Seventeen point eight four percent of Erin. I don't be to laugh. It's just where it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You could never leave us. This is going to happen. We'll make this work for you. Okay. But it was a bit of a run away with forty two point zero two percent of the vote as computed by the great tabular Kurt Clark by the pleasure of seeing in Philadelphia as well this week. And it's a man who returned to the wand off after an extended absence. Congratulations to Adam b. His theme all about ream. Strange. Edge. They said because we don't want you at the end. But I'm like dude in know what he? Okay. Island from those but didn't get beautiful anthem or GIS for ream. To Adam de for that one. Okay. Right, adam. Yeah. All right. So Josh, let's get into the honorable mentions your four this past week. Let's bring in the beleaguered host of the wand off who I've really had to read the riot act wrote of like a lengthy Email to him. I was on a plane this week to try to see if we can get his act together. Please welcome back to the wand off the late great, Casey Kasem. Josh, it's a pleasure to be back with you here on the wiggle room. Casey. It's a pusher have you back here. And if I may just speak in your defense, really, rob could you stop beleaguering, Casey. Could you just beleaguering this, man? He's a ghost. He's our friend. He does a fantastic job here. And I don't understand all the all the criticism. And if you've got a problem with Casey that you feel the need to send him a strongly worded Email, you at least have the decency to send that to pineapple boy twenty seven Josh I greatly. Appreciate your support. And I hope. That it's small consolation to you that in the afterlife. There's no mountains of pizza. I like pizza just don't want mountains of this gross lederle disgusting dive into this week's honorable mentions. Of course, you could hear all of this on the rod as a podcast soundcloud playlists available to the patrons of rob has a podcast this week. We're going to kick things off with a few things that are more to do with things that were said on the podcast, then things that were said on survivor. So we're going to kick things off with his one from swaggie Jay talking about Hannah's mom. Seven million miles. Seven million more as mom. In phone. So. Recently. Seven million vertical miles does sound like an awful lot. Rob. If you chime in as somebody who has yet to listen. Lamey cusak. My great friend Hanish appear who I love dearly. I dot at a chance to listen to that podcast. What what happened? Fire. Why are we heard this? She said that her mom had a broken record. And she skied seven million vertical miles this past ski season, which says down. Like a lot seven million vertical byles is like a science fiction metric that is. That is not that cannot be true. Feet. It was feed. Yeah. All right. Get the hell out of here. This is part of this show. Next stuff is something that I heard rob was getting dragged for on the social media this week much to my delight. War between Casey and drive is run. Dave from West Virginia. Animal. There is not no Mon. According to run who's clearly not known came Jordan, K louche, just the rank or straight. Get so much heat from this on Twitter one hundred percent, right. And the bitsy spider. And look and. Animals, called arachnids mites. Ragging family sandwich before spiders animal? I can't believe rob. Didn't know a spider is an animal what an idiot. Oh, so happy that so many people were really means a rob on Twitter telling him how dumb and stupid. He is. All right. All right. We got it. We got it. Okay. All right moving right along. And if you hadn't brought that into one never would have known. So you brought that on yourself. It was a pretty bad take Josh next up. It's time to talk about some of this week's reward from survivor will kick off this mountain of one offs with with graduated cheese for civil. Good. Then. I'm gonna call it up. Asking. Pizzas. Horrible. Few. Here. First person daily if your. I doubt. Call it up excuse me out. Out. That was from legendary crooner Dini smarten. Who I believe has served up mountains of pizza in the past. If I'm not mistaken. Really my Qodian. What's? The fact that the mountain of gene pizza happened on the same night that Brett Lebel returned to our television sets and himself had to contend with Mount Fuji is really just incredible Qismat not to be confused with mount Fiji the collection of pizza. Yes. We'll continue on with our mountain of pizza Wanda offs. Here's Stacy from Maryland. The piece of mountain. Gene mountain looks like. Torio? Kaley. Valley the mountain looks like. It's really great. Very simple and wonderful and correct next up. Here comes Lauren TK who is going to actually incorporate what was happening in the challenge to one of the fiercest competitors in survivor, thirty eight challenge history. On his. Tilson stairs mountain. They don't they want to a mountain. Checking. Fees. Not a thing. Jeff fishery. Now think unfortunately, that was a great one from Fayette. Please say we say we are Burton Robert that added feel good that feels good. You don't have to take my word for it. Down. Let's keep going with tot from the challenge. Here's Laura e D, And Michael j Clarke. I need to concentrate. Let Bob so pleased to land. Three. Why? Got nothing or the foundations. I feel like the butterfly must've like launched from cocoon that was on one of the slices of feta. Like pizza butterfly scaping the mountain. No rights in word, doc. So gross. Next up. Let's hear from Audrey as from Dallas talking about Kelly Wentworth. The on. Of hope has changed. But with side stories, not one mecca fight. The end of the night. I really don't thank you for them to extinction ticket while Lama drug my hands. And I don't see a problem. I don. Time. He was I gotta make this. For the end when the makes me nervous. But I won't eat it. We wear had gone. You had this chance. Now, you're going home district concerns Dr infant. Dodges close to driving. Kid. She gave. Came. That was from Noelia. I todd. Oh. Listen to that the other night. This is the first time I listened to promiscuous in quite a while this playing wingspan the board game from Nola Tato, decent gay. Art, find defined finally one more. Honorable mention for the wake here comes Robin from Rochester with a song about war dog cash said to see you here. The war dog squatting like output. Your N P F is though lowest by far cud, call this a challenge slim, but all in this game to me. To me skills are freeze. Heard have you voted with less you? But. Foods. You that's phony. No when sharks led were done. No one plays the role. Speaking. Good kid hopped up on panty with his butterfly. He's like a Disney male. Sites like Twitter fights life for no one. Victor. Yes, I'm exasperatingly. That's a beautiful song from the film, beauty tribe and the bees. The challenge beast man award. I really guest awning at this season. Just above the chest up throwing people on his shoulders, and I don't know a metaphor just running drive. Josh it's time to count down the top five songs. Eight all of one that's nation. Of course that these songs you can vote all week long. When you go to rob has a website dot com slash vote wonder. All right. Let's hear Casey what's hear what you got this week. Here. We go. Our first song this week. The number one song in all of wombats nation comes to us from Stacey from Maryland about everybody's favorite metaphor of survivor, thirty eight a few tribals ago. David, right. There were by let's the game. But it's been overused. Weeks in. Bit over. Maybe stop saying. Now, David has gone. Don't. Passengers. Joe's. It really is probably it's time to attack that Sicher. That sicher. Time to bring that Inver landing if we can beautiful anthem from the Queen stays Queen. Next up. Forget just pilots. And passengers Jason Lee is back to talk about stuff. Other people are saying here in survivor thirty eight. I remember when I remember went Audrey you wanted. Thinking to everyone. Right. They're doing exactly the same. Governor about that one. Remember after the game. Loyalty. All can do. There with eating. We got sharks and minnows. Screw you. A strong. Are you? Oh, yeah. That was another great one from the artist gnarled Lee seed linear. Title. Tidy Whitey song as good as great. I the gas raises. There's a lot of them. But is that any different from any seasons? We're just in the midst of our current era of catchphrases, but survivor is a very catch phrases show baked into the DNA from the very beginning of the Borneo days. I prefer catch paraphrase. Also, you're the one. Now, I understand. Next up here the ghosts community there newcomer to the top five. Here's Kerry way, the song about Kelly went worth at her Heidel. With imagine. I'm watching survivor day twenty seven I can't help think here. No. I can't hear famous last words tonight will be. Minds Negga, target me. But the side. Okay. Me safe. What a shame that going home. I timed it having ladies ever. Much better. Much better. Yeah. That was another great one from Nick at the Meyer ano-. He's actually going to be here in the studio on on Friday. All right. That's great. This is my time this show that is my Arana that you're talking about. And please give him my regards. I have not talked to Nick and good little while I heard Rupert likes to put mayo on everything. The mountain of pizza. Next up. It's another trip to top five for Baqi and Taylor song about what the war dog does. The. Is that? What about myself there person that is? Got an emphasis named I wrote down his name shooter done it sooner. He's for stem when Moore lifted go don't wanna be a passenger. So why masterplans taking? In their travel. Get my beard, a good stress sitting about it is a tiny head. Dog as the. Amaze? Poland landside rake in three. Three dollars. Lorde? That was from Lil as gen-x the tiny little crooked hat is a classic. Classic hat. Classic. All around. Maybe we should look into tidy cricket little wombat. Hats. The future. Finally, the number five song in combat's nation. Here's Tyler Jacob Jones at he's trying to figure out who might be the winner of the season based on a popular internet rubric. I know that is sneaky and can love. That runs. Got facial muscles. And. Skiing. Been to fast and governs less than leaves. Twitter. Season's almost have to. Sorry buddy is. When. We must. Edrich Todd is headed down. His show is trying. Pressuring. Red. Oh. Based on nothing. That was a classic from the group pop up their supply. Of man, but preach, preach. Are we basically this on idea? What's happening this season? I'm just out here trying to justify my existence. As one of the thousands arriver podcasts struggling circling. It's very confusing. But it's been an exciting ride. Just don't understand. I don't know. Josh you can vote in the Llandough of all week long at rob has a website dot com slash vote Wanda. And of course, you could hear all of the tracks omitted for the wand off this week on our soundcloud play list put together by the great top-five human. Randy new poll, he is going to rob as a website dot com slash patron to get the link and thanks again to Jason Curtis Rivera who makes the videos for the top five songs of the week whenever he can. And we wait patiently for those because he's a very busy student in college top seven human, and that's going to do it for Casey Kasem once again this week on the Wanda. Josh be sure to keep your feet on the ground and keep your hands off the table. All right. Great. Great job again. Casey, casey. Great great. We back to the back where the the the guy who is the name of the podcast can can actually talk for a while. Technically, this one is called the wiggle room. So I guess I guess so all right. All right. Josh wigley. Great job by the wand off superstars and new. Oh my God. Yes. So good. All right. So Josh we've got a very busy week coming up here on the podcast. And I wanna know all about it. I want you to tell me every detail. Okay. All right. Well, that of course, this is I will be firmly planted in the studio we have a jam packed week of podcasts coming up for you. So Stephen fish back is going to be having surgery on his shoulder this week. Oh, really? Oh my God. And so bad about me. Paraphrase. It was just a joke. Right. He'll never listened to just so. It's going to be leading. Yes. Okay. But everybody, you know, send positive energy to Stephen fish back as he is recovering from his shoulder surgery this week, but he will not be with us for the know-it-alls. But I will be very excited to breakdown episode number eleven of this season with Angelina Kili me. Oh, she's gonna come for the wand off jacket. Yep. Watch out watch out Madden water limits. It okay. Then I will have a here with me in the studio on Thursday. Another one of your favorites. PG law will be here in the studio used to say Hello, very excited to catch up with PG. Another one of the great podcast guests. And then Nick Myron the mayo jar will be here on Friday. So we'll have the people's here in the studio back toback days. I like it when people check in on you and make sure you're doing all, right. And that you're eating. Yes. Well, leaping. I hadn't had a guest in the studio the entire season. I don't believe Hannah was here now PG, and now Nick I will say it does make a big difference in terms of the general condition of this floor that I record all of these podcasts in between my office and the studio so that the floor you mean like the level? Yes. The level up both I guess, but yeah, I mean, I've been so crazy saying it's it's cleaner because people are showing down so like your, yes, if people are going to come in here. I can't have people know if you're like complaining about people like, you know, dirtying know Hannah has trashed my house in the past. But now this was. And Mike and my children trashing my on my office played you try to make I clean up. And then, you know, try try to make an effort to people don't think that like a hoarder anything. Terrible. Not that there's anything wrong. I mean, I don't know my mom's order, we didn't even get into a sad story. All right. So I know AJ Nass this weekend on this weekend. Survivor, robin. Keep no podcast is going to be back this weekend. So. Where did the wheel land? We are doing a total of total idea. Live people are going to be calling in live this weekend to pitch their ideas for wheel. That's really fun. That's how they'll have two minutes and thirty seconds. I believe to pitch their ideas. More hang up on time. Limit of its key time county. All right. So Josh Wigley. Of course, that you are on fire like a barrack done Darrien soared over at HR as you are writing away about episode number two of game of thrones. Yeah, there's a lot to write about, you know, only six episodes for the final season of game of thrones. And only four episodes left at this point, which feels like not enough time. But the good news is I feel like every episode has offered up a lot to think about a lot to talk about a lot to write about. So lots of fun stuff. Going up at teach dot com slash game of thrones. And man, I really I've loved. This episode. Great. What's the of luck? Oh, meter to for how many articles you've written about episode number two of game of thrones. So far. Pulled Allama trigger. Llama triggers. How many no I think the lava trigger should be breaking the law Coquelles, we're getting close just like a single bird more under five baby. Over five. They go a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. But it's fun. Yes. Hard to complete right? He's easy to complain bitch and complain. It's good stuff. I'm having a good. All right. Josh we're gonna get into our games feedback show later on the day on post show. Recaps, of course, Stephen recap the episode over on post show recaps on Sunday night that's up in the post show recaps podcast feed. Josh, and I will get into all of your game of thrones feedback questions as well. Also, just Gleason Mike bloom have Star Trek discovery Star Trek panic at the disco of finale coverage as well over on social recap. So check that that was a heck of a ride. What arrive quite literally would ride. Okay. Josh wiggle or anything else? No, all right. I'm just gonna go. Eat a salad now after talking about all this pizza, right? Boring chicken salad. No, I believe it's going to be very interesting kale Caesar. Oh, okay. That is interesting. All right. Take everybody have a good one. Bye. Hi streams too. Because we don't want to at the end. But I'm like, dude, you know, what he? A may not. Okay with this is from those starred, but didn't get the best of me done. No. It the end able see that. I am. It took me. Maybe. Any next to me? Thing. This is where. 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Survivor 39 Episode 3 Recap with Ron Clark

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Survivor 39 Episode 3 Recap with Ron Clark

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had a dialogue when he returned but I'm sure they did and I think it's pretty obvious that productions probably told them when you return you can't tell I really I just want to let you know I am so appreciative of you making some time to talk about survivor because I know in the scheme of things that you have it's great to see why I love to get your take on the decision that they made last night to ultimately send Vince home from the tribe did you think that was the there's this morning they're really Confused about radicals just trying to help them understand that teaching eighth grade history or also we've got a big construction project going on with him to kind of get his take on what happened and this is a weird Thursday where I haven't had the chance to talk to the survivors although in your season I didn't get a chance to talk to any of you until the season was the idols just with her yeah perhaps and also she's knowing that she went there she was unsuccessful getting an idol she's probably thinking admits may have been successful than they did life like Digested I love it I analyze it and so yet teaches important in this primarily who I am but survivors officer too big part of the Ron over but normally I have those first thing in the morning but this happens to be a week where I'm doing it later on in the day so I'm actually talking to you first so hopefully by the time that this podcast is posted the ones who don't really fit into any of the main alliances that are going on is that fair to say yeah in this season unlike what is going on had to go head to head with Boston rob in this fire making challenge and then Vince had to go on this crazy mission to go and right decision for the women to make yeah I think so because in the back of their mind I'm sure they're thinking okay we're GonNa do a trip so I pretty soon I may end up getting stuck on Robin Sandra here because they're trying to get that big bang for the buck like everyone who turns what's up the beach turned the corner they're trying to get the excitement on their face and so they told them not to tell anyone bins may have an idol and so I think she probably thought that it was Serb benefit have him gone because he's the only other one there with her due to the old standard of Olis' mackinaw female trump we don't really see a lot of commonalities between us let's go out gender-based and so because they really are just a lot of different people August I'm sure she said what you had to do to win an idol and so we didn't get to see what he told her but I guarantee you Elizabeth it's on Thursday and then we will have our feedback show coming up on Friday with Lisa hope you guys get feedback questions in looking forward to a bit also I think the person who was really calling the shots I think ended up being Elizabeth Elizabeth also been to Robin Sandra on the island of idols and so she kind of knows that you be back in the fold nor the information yet I think he makes a good point Elizabeth because I think that she might be carrying a lot of weight in this group because we saw missy was but it makes it really complicated when you've got two or three or four people who've been there and they know everyone else doesn't know so production tribe if you're one of the females with Tom in Aaron and and Dean I don't want them to be upset with me because of backstabbed them so I think is probably the best to make Vince the when did casting it's like they've got so many different types of people and personalities that they put together and even as I read in the BIOS in learning about them before the show I said how are these people going that direction and no one win and Mrs Direction so I thought it was telling so in terms of how Vince played this early going in the season so I in the past a little more answers from Vince right right reported that yeah so flint Vince came back and when he compared notes with Elizabeth because I think that Vince did didn't do a great job of making either the men or the women feel like that he was a loyal wants. Vince came back to the beach I think they probably went to the watering hole and I think there are probably like all my goodness Robin Sandra about saying Vince Yeah I had to make fire I couldn't do it I didn't get an idol but in the back of her head she may be wondering Bents may not believe me he made must've been awkward because they're both not showing all of their cards each other they both had such radically different experiences to use that word again where Elizabeth actually pretty blindsided less I didn't think that he was going to be the one to go home but then the more I thought about it today like I feel like that ended up making some more sense so it was a it was in her benefit get him out of there that's why I kept looking less I see her facial expressions everything she was saying because I thought she would probably be concerned that get fire or ultimately ash from the other tribes so I really wonder what they disclose to each other I don't know but I'm sure Elizabeth probably stuck with her story and then she got what she wanted and so that that's very telling because when someone who has the power says I think we should get this person out others kind of go in thanks Steven pointed out earlier on the earlier podcast where he wouldn't look in the eyes was looking to the left and the right and if anybody who's going to be on survivor in the future when you ask someone in kind of is kind of inserting their arm into the dynamics of the tribe which complicates things what do you think that those conversations must have been like for Vince and Elizabeth out of their group yet and when Aaron and the guys were talking to him and they were saying you know hey these women they're making this alliance eighty would you be comfortable working with US probably grabbed him and said did you get an idol or not and he he may have ladder or he may not have glad but we'll know we'll never know exactly what happened there I'm looking forward to hearing your interviews they were worried that he may have something because I think one of the problems for Vince and there was a secret seen this morning that I got a chance to watch where that he had an interaction with missy and and then the ladies they could have said Hey let's work together and keep fence but also they're trying to keep in mind or other tribes swab come in we need to be strongest potential radical that could have gone either way I don't know I think I don't think it would have helped me because I think basically the guys the man made it abundantly clear that the women were his plan A. Plan B. Plan C. as opposed to being somebody who was seen as a supposed to that okay I'm going to talk to the guys but I'm also secretly I'm working with the women if he would have just come out and then just got off on is in these conversations yet it's not missy I thought I thought MRIS got the power here but then as watch last night and I saw some of the things that she said that I saw he was going to talk about going ahead and voting Tom out and then basically we saw Elizabeth say no I don't WanNa do that we can't get rid of dad so we really don't want to upset Tom and Aaron Dane this is just the easy vote do you think that it could have been different for Vince if he played the middle less just greedy to have him as a six let's just throw him out because he is this person who is in the middle right now and it was like a simple Luba Luebbe said on like I think it really is Elizabeth I think Elizabeth is the one that Kinda has control of the alliance she's looking really strong for me right now 'cause I'm one hundred percent down with y'all trust me and so I think he did all he could in that situation I think it was his time to go because he had enforcing gone to the island of idols come back and when this merged comes all of these different personalities I mean who is going to be great TV but who knows what's going to happen and nothing missy trying to say why don't we try and keep this group is strongest thank did come back with an idol and he's the only one who has that information on me that I could have an idaho he might be putting my name out there if he sank in perhaps she's got this auto she could play it tell your closest most trusted allies would tell my most trusted closest allies but I wouldn't tell them I founded out say I found down the advantage I went to Eric and told him look I found something for us we can use this together you kind of WanNa let somebody know because if he had let's say total could tell he sanded him sure yeah I'll work with you guys but then they see him with the girls and hanging out with them and talk and and I think he was letting the ladies know hey I'm with you you know watch it on TV it's it's Kinda makes them more interested in but I'm not a really a great fan of of outside can he's got it trust me enough to tell me he said we might could use it together we need it maybe I'll be an advocate for him that he shouldn't go home silt that's going to be unlike no other just lots of great things in great energy happening so when you're fifth graders are confused about radicals question and they don't answer look to straighten is on the telltale sign and so he kept glancing away so I thought they probably didn't have a lot of confidence in him would on extended but I think that's an interesting element as well yeah it would have been interesting to see what would happen if Vince didn't jump in and say that he we do it right away if they would've made the mission easier or if they would have laid let the idol be effective for more tribal councils they would have said awesome possible going into a potential some type of a swap or merge thought that was the mindset and also you know I think vents you know when you get an idol people always say that both sides of the tribe could have agreed on to make it be Vince right and I can see that but also they're trying to keep in their head let's see felt like that you know Vince is kind of being shady and they saw missy talking with Chelsea they said okay well I think he's I think he's with us but it asleep that tells you the true allegiance if they're sleeping together their site each other their little huddle in a corner by the fire wherever they go that's the alliance less idols less advantages on watching it I just love the strategic gameplay on the relationship part and on but foregoes I thought that was kind of appealing if he said that to me I would probably go still not convinced can we go for five boats out to try to haggle with them and I think he snow I did find one I'm going plant now out in the open and it's over and by doing that would have saved himself so do you tell everybody before tribal council or do you only those are in terms of what he was able to do but that would have been hilarious to see you sneaking into less sue and then going in and it's it's worth more to try to use it to build trust and actually use it to save yourself if you can really get the trust in the alliance to work together do you like these advances love is that when you go if you say you don't want to take the risk to Rob Rob will up the Ante Oh what we make it good for three next three boats ages and idols of the much like your advantage that you found in your season do you like these things that have expiration date uh-huh and so maybe he should've played a little bit differently if our him out of play model that night running water bottle would have been great he should displayed it and said just want to let you guys trauma counselors I don't think they would have made it easier but I'm just like so fascinated by this whole thing of all man if I'd gotten opportunity go to other tribe and sneak there man had been all about it out have been trying to get information out of tried to see who asleep beside each other because that tells you everything if you ever on survivor people the where p insane Oh my goodness what do you try and could he have potentially got nobody up and said hey everybody does will let you know I'm bents I'm from the other it is I would have done it that is so fun I thought the whole thing the whole dynamic I just thought it was great ron when you talked about how you can tell where all the stealing their fire waking them up and doing all sorts of pranks on them then they would have blamed it on Wendy again you couldn't let the chickens out and I was completely by myself under the Shelter Norma sleeping beside me while we're on this happened and it crossed my mind I wish I had to give it more credence but I didn't alliances are by where the people are sleeping in in the game with that something that you use the comma or is that something that you used after the merge ever tell anybody but when you go to an island of the idols and they know you might have one I think it's always best to come back in like I did win on when she goes to sleep if she goes to sleep I no one's going to go live aside her because if you do other people are going to notice that and then you don't Aubrey and Joe and Aurora while the far end and then the other six of us we were all huddled together and like wow this is really true and then you as as the nice go on in so out have been looking around out of probably tried to instead of taking fire if there were no fire at camel take the pots I'm GonNa take their Flynn I'm GonNa try to he woke up one night I'm sitting there Julian US lab aside each other every night so as Juliet and Julie and Eric and we're all together and then I looked over and on me it was something that I noticed quickly at heard it before so it's not something came up with but I just tried to pay attention to it and then it common you can kind of see it to be done on survivor and nothing's ever nail in the coffin and you could always go and have a conversation with somebody changed their mind because people on survivor now like I said when that was my mission can you help me out with this could he recruited anybody to help him with get the fire back going yeah it's fascinating to know exactly where the guardrail Russia they once you get the taste of blindside you want more you want to be shocking this do something different and so it may be the people are easily willing to listen about what was fascinating I love that part yeah no that's really interesting and then what if he could have woken them up and said hey I need to get some fire who somebody else potentially is also helpful because let's say for example you're Krishna unless they Christian knows everyone's going to vote her out kickin what are you talking about two oh two different hate that mopey wanting attitude unlike come on on pick yourself up go put yourself in the conversation there's always more hey did you think about this what about that they could change their mind in a moment so just never give up Ron could you talk a little bit about what you think that Krishna was going it's really telling so could you use that to your advantage in any way is there a way to like if you think you're on the outs like should vince go and sleep next to you keeping you notice the different dynamics people go to sleep by the fire people who sleep in different huddles and what's funny is the night before I was voted out a my woke up Elizabeth Elizabeth you I know you've been the island of idols I want you to I found one we can use this alliance we have let's use together perhaps if he had told her that she would have been ladder because she's probably going to turn over you whisper hey what do you think for the boat did a no must have given that conversational tour so people will avoid her you know the people that he perceives to be the people that are calling the shots or could you you know throw people off of like okay this person is my closest ally so I'm GonNa go sleep next I think she was just going each person is reaffirming their ear I'm here I'm down I'm your vote unloyal she wasn't trying to say hey I have an idea because if she had live for us we can use this if anybody feels like we need to play it tonight on somebody let me know we can I'll give it a whomever like these tonight is only good for two tribals and then town at that tribal council last night where she was getting up and walking around and of course you're no stranger to these types of Shenanigans at the tribal council you were err on the famous pilots passengers and Julie Jumping ship so what do you think that Krishna was trying to say to the is possible we can either vote out tom than upset Aaron or Dane or we can try and bents and therefore key Dean Tom and Erin Offi Cup today I am rob sister no welcome back to rob as a podcast talking about episode number three of survivor island of the idols and we've got a really great show so as someone who's in the game It just kind of it lets you know on but if you feel like oh my gosh I'm on the house once League Musab me is really important you to get yourself women that she was talking to I think it was just affirmation from the looks on their faces it wasn't she was saying something new or she was presenting a different idea I think she was probably Dan something like if you please for me I'll be lower to forever APLOMB issue I'm with you appreciate I wanna be part of your team let's keep this all female alliance on the bottom come on the name out there do something and on she was so defeatist like I'm too old and I'm thinking what you're too old come on now you're I don't know I don't I don't really have a feeling one way or another when I realized that mine would only be good for three boats I was not happy about it and so I'm sure they're not righties but what up and plant yourself somewhere different if you're asleep and you wake up but no one's around you if people are talking around the fire you better go join that conversation like insulin tell increase you gotta fight take something back there would have been on a little more exciting but yeah or was injured and then like you were talking Stephen I wonder what would have happened if people had woken rob I'm here no one else knows I'm here to give you some dirt on what's going on at you know at least I mean could he have done that or do they tell you can't interact with people now Not Calls Much Commotion Right there would have been more like that tribal council that you guys were at where there were new ideas being presented okay let me let me talk to my manager you see what I can do and more people would have gotten up and had more side conversations exactly but do you think that somebody in Christmas position was that her being leaving no doubt that she was going to be the person to stay or do you think that put her in danger by getting up and walking around at the tribal council it as much attention as somebody if we say so Chelsea or Elizabeth or even MRI that if one of them but everything you say everything you do every conversation you have every walked to the beach every every little subtle facial make everyone's watching everything and so you've got to be very with Quinn charisma cut her hand didn't that seem very odd that nobody seemed to be paying any attention to Christmas injury would've left her own because when I saw it wasn't really that bad on she's bending over she's putting her hand down which is something you don't do you're supposed to cut my hand just that whiny type of attitude then at one point she says Oh I wish people would start playing survivor dude had the same injury everybody Belmont Oh my God are you okay right every move you make every second of the day and before I went on survivor I hadn't thought it would be like this survivor charisma would have annoyed me to no end on the island just because of her Oh my goodness I'm getting voted out don't know what to do that I think she probably could have put some fear invents on so as she was going from girl to go to girl I was thinking all you should finish it off by going to events if you their place or bothering to play the game on your complaining no one else was playing survivor you're not playing survivor so I don't know an unfortunately swab before it happens I think he would be the next one to go I think every season there are at least some females that say hey let's Mika office she's over there she's cut her hand it wasn't that bad she was like I can see my bone like just a little bit of blood was coming out those little dramatic but if you're the one that's over there comforting her and she only reason that person's being nice to Christmas because they want Christmas vote when she's on a jury so is those types of thoughts that goes through that will go to your head really interesting lane is obvious as she wants to be with that all female alliance and and I think they see their strengths there and I think they would probably vote Tom next on if there is an people decide hey let's do this please put me out and so everybody watches who does she talk to who does she go to the watering hole wit and you don't WanNa be the one she's walking to the watering hole with all of the females and then good events was his ear were still together I think that would have made more sense to me but the fact that she didn't go to him would there be harm in okay we know that the women are the top four this alliance but let's move forward with Aaron Tom Because they are we've Moore alliance like on my season I walked up on roar trying to convince Julie to do an all female alliance and so I think it happens a lot but this group they say however is such a mean game where that somebody could be hurt and if a person is sort of like on the outs of the power structure of the tribe that they don't get so you've gotta be careful like when you're out there yet no well you win with the night but you've also got to be careful with people because the one that's on the far out on a target on your back but honestly if I'd been there I would have gone over in Omaha goodness you're care UK but then like all he's definitely don't play as he didn't I can't wait to you find out why he didn't but I think she was a risky move for her ron what do you think was going on careful that you don't give anyone in your alliance reason to think oh maybe this person has an alliance with that person wise that person helping that person on wall elevate soon as I walked in under slyke I don't really know what's going on here honestly I'm sure Krishna is a lovely person in real life survivor changes you but I think because everybody may say a Christmas on commits this person to work with her maybe we go that personnel instead so I took it as that she was on the far house you know kept them happy and where are they going would would that be okay or do they have to keep it just women for this thing to work urge who we want to see merge who would be most likely of everyone in this group to flip in our them I probably think Erin ahrends probably gonNA flip up the hill or all they're trying to gain favor they wanna get that person's boasts that persons on the jury they're trying to make sure 'cause everyone knows ribaud now charisma ugh stop complaining and make some moves and be a little bit more bold run this is so interesting were years saying about Christmas with the injury because I think you're right where who will still take their on your team and so I think that's probably why they voted offense because it was just basic numbers they either have this or they can have three other people who still for a vote and vote out one of the guys I think the ladies will stay together I think Elizabeth Missy I feel like though put together I mean all players attempting to keep original tribes together including Ron and thirty eight a lot of these tribes strong seasons have also involved relatively straightforward pre merges where the tribes let's say for example Christmas on the on everyone's going to watch spoke they know she's going home she's on the outs everyone's assuming that she's going to be fighting this should be the intent on it in pretty happy about it on they don't need the guys for anything they're strong they're powerful athletic they're smart in so I don't think that they see three tribes that changed the way that you're looking at your numbers yet thing that's the reason why they voted out bents because knowing that there are about a probably opt three tribes if you keep vents that's one person you've made happy if you've been out made Tom Aaron and dean happy so you've got similar Krishna it if she doesn't change her gameplay Suga Mega to the final three is a goat but she'll get she won't win she's got to kind of take charge polar cell phone Iran I do agree with chases premise. Yeah I do agree in I do agree I mean just when look in fit with them as in Christmas words at the end they'll stick together ron does it change things up based on if you're going to swap to two tribes or together it's going to have to take some time to kind of see where the dust settles but I like it like this but I would disagree that we've seen so much in the feel like we're in the vote okay so I have a voice mail for you on this subject of keeping the tribe strong a lot to the table so far based on what we've seen in terms of the challenges and were being a reliable number that the women feel good about for a potential swap remerged this is from Chase Hi Robyn Ron much of the posts swap emerged strategy in late thirties on us every says the Ronnie boat he has been happy on he's he's probably GonNa go he'll be more likely to align with maybe Jamal or Jack from the other tribe and the post swap the players are going to dance with the ones that Brung them or always see more dynamic unless tribe divided group of players when things switched up thanks bye so the next vote if this Lyra tribe ends up going to another drop council do you think that Krishna will be the person who goes home or do you think that the women will keep her um I think they might need to keep it just women if our one of them out of probably saying this you know what we're about to do some type of a swap probably eventually it's going to be a murder but I think it's a testament to the casting for this season I think they did a great job because it's such a different mix of people in personnel more people in your group who feel like you're still strong together so then when you go to a five on three tribes you have more likelihood of having people on that group with you and about the most typical person to be voted out plus or minus and Aubrey this season seems different or rear observing ought of inner tribe factions and major blindsides so is GonNa create an even better more dynamic merge when they all come it's just gonNa be mayhem I mean I don't see any groups automatic lining the other tribe over on Vo Kawhi I a lot of people wanted us to talk about your impressions of Tommy who is somebody who it's almost like they're coming as a pair but also I like that Jamal was upset with Tommy when they voted out molly yes historically easily it seems like it's pretty much straightforward you can always almost guess who's going home is the person who's on the odd man out or the weakest fact I love you love you love comma but not necessarily what happened in terms of how everybody else looked at it and I feel like that yeah there was people on Ghost Island I did I think he might WanNa be careful that people don't start to see them as too much of a pair because then you know you're seen as a threat like a couple to be a lot of crossover between the tribes when we get to that point let's talk about what's going on over a case in point joe going home I right so we'll see but I do think that this these groups are definitely prime oh him out next I see these ladies staying together I don't see them on trying to vote one of their own even though charisma doesn't quite did they need the men for anything and so they're willing to vote them out on necessary to keep their lines strong but you think it's interesting where Krishna who has not the last few seasons at it's always the tribes sticking together I know that you're a proponent of that you wanted to keep the comet tribe together life in this game do you think that players are getting a little too aggressive in terms of wanting to make these big moves over on Boca he's athletic I don't see him as being a threat anyone is at the moment so I think he has a good likelihood of on having a really long on that he has kind of aligned with Janet they seem like a really strong pair which an unlikely pair but they seem to really really be Ambi- working together kind of like in the way that Juliet we saw that it could have been a pretty straightforward vote to take out either Nora or Jason at the council they ended up going with the blindside to go wanted to keep things together but I feel like the we do see a lot of fluidity after the merge yeah I'll agree with that yeah in his pre-game interview talked about you as being one of his idols in somebody that was very exciting for him to see you on survivor because all three episodes so far this season I was sitting there thinking gosh it'll be three or four people maybe five it could be a six person who is really going to go home and so i Alexy's ethnicities I mean just it's so it's such a rich crop that it's not as obvious who's on the bottom it's not as obvious more focused on how can I do a blindside into what is the smartest safest move for me at this moment right like Jamal got a gift from the survivor God's where that they said Hey let's just do nora is an easy vote Jamal saying like hey I want to go rogue I wanNA have agency our moves to remind your jour- molly than we see Dan talking about okay well let's this is pretty straightforward to go after Nora Jamal wants to go after Dan than this but I thought that the way Tommy handed going back up back to them trying to mend the relationship about it was good I think Tommy's kind of flat under the radar right now he's a nice guy he as a fourth grade teacher that you were very influential person on him what do you make of Tommy so far love Tommy he's a great guy it's obvious I want this to be exciting I don't Wanna I don't want this to be dull this is obvious boat while this this episode will be pretty bad so I think that might play in rob I gotTa tell you when Eric was voted out like I still have a little ptsd of the whole experience like I'll wake up and his reign on me I'll wake up and think it's cold a wake-up along the Tommy said I realize I've got him in this relationship is he went back to Jack Ulanbatur Jamal and tried to shore up things with them Jamaluddin semi Q. is buying it let's vote out Nora and he response to let's vote out Nora should be absolutely I not too dissimilar from do next I'm here to work with Y'all because if you don't if you act like we know what I'm upset you just going to be a bigger threat I'll never forget when I got back and I was way back when when you were alive with Eric and Eric voted out and at that point you said whatever you guys WanNa do right hey we should go after Jamal do you think that they should just slow things down a little bit here we're still in the single digit day of the game so call is radical unlike there you go more radicals unlike Jomaa it's too early for this you're trying to make your resume in his day nine you know make your resume like this when you're on survivor you're playing the game but in the back of your head you're also thinking while I don't want this to be a good season how boring people's minds a little bit and also when you're sitting there for three days on the island and your own tears and there's no one hundred is like you start thinking hey what about this idea what about that you were somebody who was aligned with molly and the tribe went back and said okay let's get back on the plan let's go back to the original plan that you wanted to do Jamal of let's when Jamal said to Janet Hey why don't we vote vote out on who's a Dan and then she said okay I'll have to check with Tommy the next vote that could safely vote out Jamal because they're probably they know a merger a swap is GonNa come like that you shouldn't play that hard or lie that big in the early stages of the game because there's a strong risk that at some point you're going to get exposed the C. Start Rolling things around your head and so on some nuns people get bored that hey why don't we spice it up a little word for Jamal because talking about maybe him he got his name thrown out because he's being too radical is on I like Jemaah a lot now worried about him because of that like when you can handle it liberal more delicate delicately Jamal he came back and he said I'm the wild card now or whatever he said to Tommy which may Tommy's eyebrows raised air really is like salted the earth great good guy and to see him leave he was my best buddy it hurt and then to watch Jamal's face when molly was voted out come hungry but I'm not hungry I'm still dealing with some of those things sometimes it survivor will miss you up as you know but When Erica voted out I was so shot and said devastated watched survivor and you see these blindsides wow that was exciting dynamic you want to be part of that type of a moment in its lead people to perhaps be so it's difficult situation yeah so how do you think this is GonNa play out for Voca if they ended up going to tribal council do you think you'll be Jamal oh on I think it could be him that could go also I'm a little concerned about Kelly because Kelly came back and brilliant move outhouse he hit that idol in her hair and like this if it poked out a little bit her story blown so it was a break but she put on later play a little say play under the radar he goes up to Jan and he's like Janet why don't we out Dan dance this dance that while we out Dan and because he's being radical yeah I like it but I I I like learning about relationships than action of people strategy yeah maybe so but if you do come back Sam playing this idle tonight they're going to go in and say okay let's put these five votes on this person to make sure he plays the orig- and instantly I calmed down because Burn Bridges Arc light you're right but you're right it's okay and on but so it you've got and you should save your biggest lies for the end of the game exactly I mean they're gonNA find out pretty soon eventually probably at some point she's got that so her and I went up to Rick Devon's like rig did you know about this a and rick let's face it goes you don't want to burn this bridge Ron don't burn you are a perfect person to talk to because basically we have a theme for the survivor series in that's all about teachers it's all about going to the Robin Sandra Academy Oh it led janitor go to Tommy say hey what about Jamal it's the strongest biggest threat on that game and on Boca there already shows a dramatic show of our strip down I'll show you I don't have this freaked out will everyone's going to find out eventually she has and as soon as they found that three tribal councils she didn't play in or I mean I guess that there's a good chance that she could just walk away from the whole experience and then whereas in the edge of extinction we had reward challenges we we went to three tribes we had to go see what was going on at the edge of extinction never have to play it and doesn't need to expose it but I'm just wondering after what happened events if there's wisdom in when you come back just a hey I got tonight I'm GonNa play tonight no matter what and seeing what they can teach you and so as a survivor's most famous teacher what do you make of this twist are you enjoying it the on focus of the conversations people are having like for example last night show a great majority of it was just bits and just go into the island doing his challenge adult situation to be in okay so I wanNA talk a little bit about the island of the idols and ah trying to get the the fire it was all about that in the midst goes home in so I invested a lot of my night learning about bents but now he's not even really in place hilarious and they're great teachers great teachers always their patient they demonstrate they do role play and so they're doing all of the things however I mean I would sit there and watch it for hours if it were four hours long I think we feel like we never get enough and so on that's just a testament how good the show is because we just want more dude I've been there I know it is I like I felt so sorry for him but then when you give to the tribe you gotta you gotTa be like sorry your body I'll gosh goodness what are we going it and then like I said like you mentioned when you first get there they don't let you in the circle in there all tight so you have to go out and you sleep away from the fire action that was rough man I mean it was as purgatory and so you have the one fire and everyone traffic is close to it as possible so they wouldn't need as physical trick strengthening more also you're you're kind of thinking not only will we probably not need his physical strength anymore I don't want to have to go up against his physical strength and think something's gotTa give that there's not enough airtime in one episode to do all those things so I feel like that this season has been a good compromise right and people who love those people were still thinking on getting back on that island I'm going to be the one of all the people on this island go back in this game and I'm trying to get jury votes and on still make relationships advantages at a time limited what do you think's on the nights that come with the autos that Roman Sandra giving away because the there were everybody was sleeping around the fire and people wouldn't let you in there was as a new person you couldn't even get a spot by the fire and you were so called anymore and so I think there's a danger in that but how I just love Sandra in rob so much like just idolized them so anytime they're on TV it's entertaining and what would have been your reaction to end up there with Robin Sandra out have been much more dramatic out of freaked out and ran up and hugged the best thing that takes time away from that one can edge of extinction or once an island on idols I'm like okay I'll sit through this but are really rather just get back to ron can I go back and ask you in the edge of extinction question with what you're talking about with where people are sleeping now I remember from our interview and I'm GonNa Cook for people and I'm going to all can't run I have a question for you about all of the advantages from this season the way does later in the game like we could have up to eight feick autos at some point okay thanks guys bye wrong this is a fascinating question title is not GonNa look good for her now if she just had the idol instead all y'all I did get an idol is one thing but she was put on a dramatic show of changing it so do you think it's blank and if not do you think it's possible a lot of people are going to be passing these office fight after the season and that was a great interview that you gave me when we talked about your game from the edge of extinction talked about how when you first got to the edge of extinction mm-hmm and it had been very exciting yeah so far I feel like that with the lack of the reward challenge I feel like that this is really helped mom legs but yes rough stuff but I don't I didn't see the dynamic there but make no bones about it on edge extinction people were still playing the game being handed out on the island of the idols? Here is our good friend Lindell from Australia I cleaned from Australia my questions Iran given that he has experienced with you want a great teacher to do and I'm just jealous that I didn't get a walk that beach and see those big heidel open going to write within that have been so much fun as long does the do people sleep next to each other in the same way on the edge of extinction the way that they do in the game I don't think so 'cause Eddie it was and I was so cold now huddle Julia was going I look up as she motion for me to come a little closer to her and she gave me this little tiny piece of Tar stand idle rules written on them but I don't think they can also say this is on the good fatu troubles in case there's a negotiation and I don't think rubs there with a Little Marco let me take all my clothes off and look everywhere police searched me is you're trying to hard to light of me especially because she has to play it in I forget if it was two or the fire her wouldn't have done it because if our our provident convince may have an idol yeah we doesn't play this idle tonight and so by doing just kind of all like huddled around there's no shelter so you really only have one place you can't sleep around the fire service is kind of circles up in his crunches in its close as they can out they're going to realize oh she was lying back on that beach when she cried so much I think it's going to cost people to look at her a little bit differently so I'm a little concerned about that for her yeah that's a good point so you feel Jin it's probably getting a little bit of inside baseball in terms of how these things are going to work but look Linda brings up a great point okay this idol is good for to tribal councils the Boston rob is negotiating on the fly of okay now it's worth three so do does does he have multiple notes how would not want to go there for thirty nine days with you asked me to harder question much harder on Oh councils than I think what happens is that you're given the idol an somebody later from production will give you the piece of paper extinction that you would not be able to make it the thirty nine days with I would be able to make thirty nine days with anybody 'cause I'm not a quitter but I'll tell you does out there that could be really fun to watch I guess but honestly just from my opinion I think probably what would happen if rob said okay you can use it for five takes a new paper foyer update but yeah I thinking all this help them out a little bit dividing the text up you know think that Boston Robin Sandra have a printer out there on the island behind the giant nets her and she's very motherly she's funny and she's a great conversationalist I think this early good pick yeah I think though is there anybody on that you gosh I don't I don't know I don't WanNa say somebody I would wanna go how `bout this I'll ask you the yes no version are there other people from survivor borough it would end up in your bag or something the piece of paper that goes along with it and then I cut my information up so that it only read on will I think her question is brilliant haven't even thought about it because what she's saying is is true if all these people get these idols at expire that are gonna be lots of fake I rita that it sought thing rum depending on how they ride on the sheet of paper they may do it in such a way that the person would be able to cut off that part if me out I'm there the whole time I mean it's great but thirty nine days I mean you're miserable with one person just hanging out with one part else to do I mean would you do that would you go back on survivor if they told you you're gonNA sit on this island but thirty nine days and this you're not going to be we'll give you some rice and you can get a tar this is all you're going to have would you do it rock yeah I wou what else do I have gone on Ron I mean why why not I mean they can't who I am very interested in seeing more of their camp where they stay what they bill under the extended they wanted to build some kind of a three story on structure so I'm injured the all day every day Eric's a great Super Guy Mama bear that was one of the big takeaways I had from talking I think I talked to seven or eight of you either there are some people I would not want to spend not ideally I think anybody would say that would be Eric Eric Wow you wouldn't just laugh for thirty nine days with rain that is true and I love Raymond Raymond she lets you cut it up is from your season after we went through the whole thing and everybody that I talked to had really nice things to say about Eric he's just a super guy thirty nine days it depends on the other person is I guess it does what if this thing I mean that would be fun I think Sandra's probably got some some good stories for reality TV it works fine but not for a rural school but I would say lessons that sure he's like an awesome guy I really hope pick play again 'cause he so deserving he's a wonderful man I think part of the thing that really threw us off about Eric was thinking the would you include the giant heads more in the education process a lot of people really wanted to know this in terms of your methodology. Well what types are you rob you can pick one past survivor player that you would be on the island with thirty nine days who is it and it's I can't pick you ron no you cannot pick me things would you want to see Robin Sandra be teaching Yeah I don't know about the heads part but I always let me ask you at the Ron Clark Academy and Jeff Pittman wants to know Ron if you were in charge of Robin Sandra's school what kind of lessons would the Ron Clark Survivor Academy teach let's go teach from people that maybe if they have giant statues of themselves there than that maybe that's that seems more egotistical now I know why would he say this type of stuff not who he worker who he is okay so let me ask you some of these questions that I have for you is there a giant Ron Clarke had not I have really huge giant I mean really an outlook y'all heard an interview with him before if you watch them on the show you're not getting the full picture he just as great as everyone says he is is that grading grade a group are they going to be able to accomplish it I think rob could do anything you wanted to think so because they certainly have the time and they're bored they have nothing freaking me talked about how sneaky he was going to be and he talked about how he wanted to try to be like Tony and based on what we ended up seeing on the show that he ended up being really okay I would have to say that I would love to have the experience to be with your friend and mine how about ream daily Seriously Sandra didn't do the set design but I I think you've made the right choice that you shouldn't have a gigantic statue of yourself towering over the student AAC thirty foot tall photos of our students Jim Yeah so you make it about the students right I feel good that seems more like we're that you would go to wait a really different expectation yes it just his pre interviews didn't come across well either I remember watching them thanking what in the world is he doing these interviews they should teach his learn from your mistakes all I think it's really important like Jamal for example he when he came back he was he said earlier Vince looking to the left when people asking him will you work with us so making a contact on getting to know people at they already did in the last episode helping others like whenever you see this somebody needs something whether it's for example we got the Pilla off of the are there any circumstances when you can reopen that relationship and work with them again this is an interesting question because Lloyd and I've had this exact same when we got marooned yeah and are you laughing at me I love the way you say pillow Oh gosh okay well how do you say I would say pillow we'll forgive them for blindsided me but I will not forget the thing that's important that he said he won't forget it because like Gavin Gavin lied to Eric's more who's GonNa Console me something important lesson to learn as well so to go back to what you were saying about where Gavin he voted out eric face blindside him landed meet voted out eric in that I ended up trusting Gavin again than Gavin lied to me did the same thing to me so when somebody a certain number of people on that island and you got to mend relationships rebuild relationships you you wanna stay around as long as possible you just can't burn every bridge Oh okay you put much more effort into it at this pillow and so whenever people go sit down I would make sure that they had the can you put your trust back in him if somebody betrays your trust on survivor do you have to vote that person out immediately or as you who they are the first time you believe it so enlarging our stakes out also like teach the importance of making contact when you're having a conversation like ourselves I think I would subscribe to that but I don't think you can make sort of your mandate that okay well this person lied to me now I have to get them out but I think he yeah and it's situational depends on this why should sometimes too I mean we see it happen a lot on survivor especially on big brother also because it's such a long season on the because if you do or if you're trying so hard to get somebody out just because they lied to you one time you're gonNA end up being the one that becomes the target you don't follow the Big Brother do adult okay well it's such a long season that happens a lot and you tend to see people betray person and then they earn their trust back then they just betray them oh I didn't tell her we're voting job she was too close to Joe so we vote out Joe she was so hurt even tried to console her she still never let it go intercession in Loyd is on the mindset if they ever blindside you are loud you once you got to get them out immediately out they've got one and so but I'm more of the mindset there's in a way that rob and Sandra could teach carpet DM surly good question or your essential fifty-five rules which one best fits for survivor did you find after you played that one of the essential fifty five really walkout the challenge I picked her up so on out to kind of teach empathy taking care of each other making sure everyone's okay because people have breakdowns on survivor daily do you know even if you're going to like okay let me you work with this person for a little bit that that is something that they are very capable and willing to do to you as an example again and I really think that you you can work with them but you could never trust that person again because I think that they have shown you who uh I didn't want to disappoint viewers would be saying to me why don't you try this what are you try that and so I think just go for it and in every moment in everything so when you once you break trust once it's hard to remember it back to on the state that it was before Ron Mike Edwards wants to know of later on in the season she even gives her extra vote because she trusted me that much but still those feelings were still down deep chief mentally voted me out in opportunity my goodness you've wanted forever don't waste it go forward do whatever you have to do so a lot like a lot of things I was doing she's doing it because I was just trying to live in the mall that you do relish the experience hunt for the crabs getting the coconuts use the flint make the fire build the relationships go push yourself what's the quiz they could do to test you on carpet I would probably tell them the probably do something in the next immunity challenge aw on Aurora now we were very very close on our season we would fight and then be very close is very odd dynamic but we still very close so part of the reason why she never got over the fact that voted out Joe she never really let that go so keep that in mind if if you listener ever on the show before if you on if somebody if you love somebody one time they're never gonNA give you a hundred percent trust with you one hundred percent they probably never really aren't has a release showed all the time but people have breakdowns and you're the person that consoles them and they sort of see you as a comfort they're going to be less likely to but you out because they're going to be thinking Oh my God breakdown and that's what I try to do on survivor and sometimes allied now's manipulating announced on all kinds of things but in my head out just saying Ron you got this there's going to be an opportunity for somebody to do something somebody has to volunteer for your child to do something we wouldn't know if you're going to volunteer to do it or not and it might be pillow make sure that people bring their cup of rice like when Christmas she's bleed make sure you okay like you WanNa make sure it like memory and Julie was hurt she could does your trump to lose because you meant to be successful this special thing is we want to see if you're willing to go forward if you're willing to raise your hand and say I want to do it in that would prove applies to survivor I think yes generic one but it's one is is carpet damages go forward and This live for the day there you go yeah Ron I want to get your take on Nora who we haven't talked about what would it be like for you to live with quicker Tom and so I think maybe she's experienced some of that but Yeah I think it would drive me crazy especially when Jason was like stop dancing but I can't stop dancing to your limits challenge try to make alliances just for so ron as the master of the lesson plan could you come up with the Tis ron think of Jason's no dancing rule I don't think that that would fly on Comma I can get Jason to dance there's and to help them prepare Robin Sandra could do a wrap of all of these survivor winners yes I could write a rat that'd be so far and yet you think that you would be able to appreciate Nora for the entertainment value or did she get on your nerves she get him on earth on it's like this in you think that there should be a cast of getting the survivor contestants to learn the names of all of the survivor winner of course of course that Ryan Clark the author of the famous presidents wrap it now let's get down to the president you learn it will start with George Washington straight from out earned us that you're willing to and if you raise your hand that you willing to go forward you're going to get this idol but it may cost you try to lose a you'll make trouble council but you'll have this eitel are you willing spur in judge what do you make of Nora's dance moves for centipede snake was actually okay with our live for you willing to dream big are you willing to take this moment at hand and make it happen and go for this kind of what I would that'd be great I like that Ron So John Simon's wants to know are you liking nor dance moves better than Jason was so as our resident dance real life I'm sure nor is great on on survivor it's a different type of it makes you different and went in like when you don't eat pre interview they said which previous survivor players would you like to meet or would you like to be on track with and I said Joe Kohl wants to know has run reached out to Tommy what former survivor did ron most want to meet and now Tommy told Josh Wigley ahead them all dancing all comma and so listen when we were doing those dances I didn't think that would ever be some that's going to be shown on TV. I'm like show Strategy Strategy Week we have about six hundred educators so around the country that comes to Atlanta they sit in my classroom that go throughout the school they meet all the teachers and they watch teach than take our memphis back to their schools are pre-game that he was very excited was his dream to have dinner with you have you ended up making contact with Tommy Yeah actually I've talked to Tommy so Komo it was so happy to games and the music and we were doing all kinds of Olympics it was fun I think he would have been swept up in it okay if he didn't go off an idol days people who are listening if you didn't eat for five days you personality changes you become different loud or maybe angry you have sort of keeps everybody a little bit at arm's length not for my personal outsider nice good go back and watch issue it was a good snake she's got some riddle my like the role okay going back to Tommy Kristen liner really elaborate puzzle it might be have to swim by being you you have to be the one to dig the hole and go under it and you know you may not be successful at it and it may cost that's a great idea yeah I love it yeah that's a very clever way I thought it now yeah the at mysterious figure in terms of how survivor players were how survivor viewers really get to know him I feel like that he one of the reasons why they ended up picking me to be on the show was there thinking Oh my goodness this guy wants to hang out with these two people these are the two people are going to be there when we put Ron in the mix so that you're an anti returner sentiment satisfied with that what about Joe I feel like that he somebody and he's been on survivor now three times but I still feel like he's a little bit of a well I didn't win so I could go back I would pick different people I keep picking until I want girl yet let me ask you this question from Danielle de Okay this is some strategy talk Ron do you think the men of the Leiro tribe and so I invited him to come down so hopefully will become a now for too long but seems like a great ray guy in the prior to going on survivor it's kind of funny because actually exactly you're asking I'm asking what Joe really like Joe is an incredible joe is joe is like he's so incredible and I think sometimes he comes across and we're just being goofy and silly there they go that's on TV and I'm grinding on all like I believe they're showing this on TV but yeah I think Jason we had created such a kun-bae and he was like no you gotTa stop people see you dancing you should be happy but I can't stop dancing somebody like that would drive me crazy so Tara Rene has a question for you head because I'm thinking he physically we went all the challenges Joe's great gatsby great to be around him at his energy and then instead all breed because I said I think all brand would on mentally I think we would have kind of quirky in the same way they interacted well and we'd get along those were the two that I said and maybe worked because we D- we only challenge we lost was for the chickens and we won't want all of our media challenges so it worked out there and then Aubrey we we hit it off averaged out to him sent him a message told him pulling for him and so he he's he wrote me back and so we've been chat and so and I'm invited him to come to my school because every light he treats people well he's just like he wants to be one with the universe and everyone to get along and just love and peace he says he's a super got stupid the things that come across the era that but he's like he's innocently arrogant like he doesn't mean it that way innocently arrogant okay all right there's somebody who's as somebody who's gotten to know him in I spent a lot of time with him so let me now we're friends we got along it was great it just ended up she was on the opposite side of the numbers because the swell in the group was this should be anti returned when I'm calling it was like a I'll give it an eight out of ten and so you say you're a generous greater ron due to the other tribe and as Vince was lurking around the Bush is that somebody was having a bad dream and buddy buddy come on just a nice good guy like he always text me up you doing okay birthdays all right he just it is Christmas but it's not going to have any effect at all on anything okay I'll let's go back to Wayne Vince went to go I suspect that the women have an alliance and if so wouldn't it have been in their best interest to get Vince to play his idol that way they could have gotten a you know come on you need to work with us because look at the latest on their their tightening to work with us on but didn't know the admits had an idol and so I don't know how they would he wasn't gonNa tell yeah well there was some talk when he was going to the island of the idols that he was going to have a potentially come back with an idol that's what caused dean to say hey we should flush I try to flush the idol and split the vote so they could have I guess potentially tr- tried to get at least a hint has beautiful hair is a beautiful man like he's really a nice guy a great guy I voted him out a lot to his face a blindsided him soon as I get the Ponderosa Hey one of the guests is right now okay I thought it was Nora but because I tried to freeze it and try to figure it out but okay yeah why would they be on Fri Taller in Damer like uh-huh we didn't see that coming so as soon as that happened I think they realized on there may be something here but I haven't seen it it could have been one of the reasons why I was selected but those were my picks yet can in practice for those good picks dreaming of why it was Tommy I'm not I can't say that I'm one hundred percent sure but that's the out about things crazy parents are people that crashed neural or this is a dream I used to have I don't have any more but I would else like like somebody said to me the other day they mentioned that he was trying to like Johnny Depp or the Cabinet Sparrow and he's just he's just really not like that conversation about it but I think perhaps they probably have talked about it it didn't show up very much on the was at one time Aaron Tom and Dean we're talking events when they're telling Vince being the group of men is being people that are not really on the level with them right right exactly and import Dane telling everybody why don't we uh-huh how's this working and are people just going to have to go on the word of Boston Rob said this was good for three tribal councils roll out of the game and Vince still could have been the target for the following week what what do you make of that is that a good idea I think as soon as they voted out Ronnie that Erin the vote how big of a deal was that Ron Dean really he's GonNa pay for that no not at all nobody even cares because got a comes across thing in people's eyes like he's arrogant he's really not arrogant he he does not mean to be arrogant now he does we still need to get confirmation on this but I have a question for you this is from Michaela on twitter when a fourth grade teacher cries out in his sleep what is he that maybe it was gonna be him but then you don't know exactly what else could unravel when you then if the other side the women end up seeing it was charisma so basically if she hadn't been there what he was telling everybody hey let's split the vote Krishma advance which is what they ended up doing so the only person in that group he would have upset I think it was your friend Tommy really that's that's what I let me had once I don't know how that could have back could have started but however way they played it last night at work for them on the one of them delight in the copy room or somewhere that relies Oman. Gosh I forgot I got my class not run to my classmate students are being there without an adult so on just oliver lots of things on Amandus jobs hard did anybody in your survivor playing experience get night terrors when This question from Jack wants to know if you were to come back as a mentor like Boston Robin Sandra who would you want as your partner would it be Eric Okay this is a question from Andrea Christie Tran Tham what would have been useful for you learned from rob and Sandra okay maybe that's a different type of question Eric not think are very similar so maybe I would nobody really seemed that concern when Elizabeth came back when everybody she said she was popular everybody was trying to talk to her. Vince goes to the island of the idols and then he malaria is that something that's our players still have to do we do lots of stuff man I don't think we had take medicine for Do you think that Labor was so paranoid about Vince getting an idol potentially when he came back from the island of the idols but they didn't seem that worried about Elizabeth urge I mean you see your your fingers get all bloody and mess it's hard it's not easy to do so out of love that lesson that whole maybe like a poverty or someone like that I'm not sure I'd have to think about it okay corporate here's a question for you from droop or Toldi odds are the Knicks Mash probability he's probably got one so the and also our property had been some some slight Gosh out of London loved the fire making challenge because on trying to use flint to make that these guys could be doing hanging out with them for one when they're in the water and they're down there swimming or when they're talking or they're going to they're Watson Eh yeah wow yeah underneath the the show great that's right that's right okay let me ask you long look for an idol they're just going to show you the one moment you find it but please make no bones about it it takes hours and hours and hours to find an icon usually you never find try to pull somebody in whoever different type who'd you I I don't know it probably have female like that's the only the only instance I remember of somebody on doing stuff like that when I played on survivor we had to take medication the Amazon thing to take medication for the malaria but that there was like there were like two different kinds but one of them would give you like very vivid dreams devoted out because I think she is popular and people like Elizabeth about when she came back she was very convincing when she said I had a bust the things I didn't get I don't know I think that'll probably been the one that had been the best for me did you practice a lot before you went out there did yeah it's let me ask you this from George wise who wants to know how would you go about breaking into an all women's alliance like the one that's controlling Leiro do you see any During episode one people wanted to vote in south at the up his name was being thrown around if I remember correctly his name was on the chopping block where Lisbeth hadn't been and that was a thing that people could have like you could have extreme like bad dream from the malaria medication on the beach you just insert yourself become one of the and you laugh at their jokes and your your concern you're a good listener and you just try to use like huge in all these thousands of trees and it's it's so much harder to find one so like a survivor producers are not gonNA show you an hour bleak but the other ones out let's leave Ron you wanna stay as long as possible until hopefully there's emerge is something flips up then you can get with a larger Alliance Ron Survivor find all these hot teachers I ron and now Tommy Okay Tom you're did you see me in the click just kind of insert yourself close by and then slowly work your way back into it had a question from Derek on facebook who said where did Taylor wants to know what type of teacher grade and subject would be best suited to play is survivor would do you think that there is a specific grade that is out of the tree that's not how it happens is like the island is massive it's like it would take you twenty minutes to walk from one into this island too are you to deal with humans of all ages and whenever they have a certain emotion you not surprised by it because you've already experienced it with your kids I think it's a fun question grade teacher eighth graders are mess they they need attention that dramatic their emotions go hog. Oh Vince was frustrated at Krishna Wooden say name what's the best strategy regarding throwing out people's names because over on the other tribe that we saw this situation where Dan externships skills to infiltrate that group because they may not pull you into their group but you want them to think o Rama be the last one that we vote out we like Ron will leave rob rob pans and like everything looked so much easier on TV it's not finding the idol like Chelsea she's like oh I'm getting some borrowed Oh there's an idol bowl great great entertainment so yeah I'm enjoying watching them in their little heart slaughter for have you met either Robert Sandra haven't I'd be a little starstruck actually but you make a Robin Sandra watching these tribal councils are you enjoying that yeah love it I love watching Robin Sandra anything with them the Great TV great p also that would have swayed the jury vote in their favor or was Chris the clear winner from the moment he made it to the final three if I went just when you have somebody you trust or when you have a really strong bomb with somebody then it's okay to throw names out Christmas she don't want to say anything because she was so paranoid the think about because in these middle school grades people are a really cliquey and that happens a lot on survivor Yes dan throughout a name and Jamal said how about Dan and then Jamal throughout a name and then Tommy was saying no I think it should be Jamal so it does seem as though I wanted my vote to count and I had been on edge of extinction with the whole jury nobody was going to vote for for Julie they saw it as a two man race it was whoever the adult she seemed convincing and she just played it off really really well then they're probably thinking oh well if she smashed it she didn't get it when you are the person who is throwing out people's names it can boomerang and hit you back the standard she would tell you you never said and and it always works out that way and so it's these clicks are always like fluid flowing in so it's just a matter of not reacting to strong when you're Adams back extinction which was cribbed or Gavin and so I realized about voted for her it would be a a loyalty boat but it wouldn't have had an effect and it was quizzing him and you don't see the whole final Tropicana parts of it but I kept trying to get him to own what he did I was like you lie to me Tim like Eric and Julianna we were always throwing out names and throwing things back and forth because I felt like I was in a safe space because I knew that we were working together on we were we were solid at that moment she didn't trust anybody she was freaking out I mean so he saying I want name and she was just so scattered in the moment she don't want to say 'cause she didn't try I haven't either one of them you would be able to hold it together though more than Vince right yeah I wouldn't cry but I'll be like I use that for when you meet Oprah Dreux tell that to these types of players or do they need to learn that on their own they're gonNA tell them they're going to they're going to have Robin Sandra on TV as much as analysis trying to make you calm and make you feel safe because a new need to get you out you're too big of a threat so if you owned the thanks that he did instead of trying to so just depends on who you're talking to cave ron edge of extinction question for you from Kieran was there anything that Gavin or Julie could have said in their final tribal day other people on told me this the plan other people wanted to do this so I just kinda got he was trying to blame other people that are saying no I made the choice to do this because I knew it was the final three or the final four should they visit the edge or the island of the idols and then get that kind of advice of a true and one thing I've learned about clicks is that sometimes kids are GonNa be in there crying Oman Anymore Otis Wakes Tamar tomorrow you'll be their best friend the prepares you for playing survivor who'll teaching the grade

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Survivor 38 Episode 13 Feedback with Mike Bloom

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Survivor 38 Episode 13 Feedback with Mike Bloom

"Yeah. Live from my apartment. It's has a podcast. And now, here's a guy who hates slime more than Aurora hates word puzzles. I am rob sister, Nina everybody and welcome back to rob has podcast in here. We are final feedback show of the season. And we have a good one because we are very excited to have back here with us and we've done this many seasons now in a row for the final feedback show the season he is just back from paternity leave as that. He is a new dad here, and hopefully will not have slime at his house for many years. Please give it up for Mr. Mike blue. I don't know if you remember changing newborns diapers raw. But there is a lot of slime involved. Yeah. Yeah. The viscosity is very close to it. So we're not exactly, you know, running it all over kids hands. But it's texture that I've been used to in the past week. Okay. All right. That guy that got real that got graphic and anyway, Mike, welcome back to the survivor feedback show. Happy one week birthday to young Asher bloom. Thank you very much Ascher, James bloom. He was supposed to be due on may fourteenth day before the edge of extinction. Finale. But from what I'm thinking when last Saturday may fourth happened. You know, it was free comic book day. It was the Kentucky Derby were a horse like pull the Ben Browning and got disqualified of nudging and other force and its course Star Wars day. So you said, you know, what let's add another dot to that bulletin list. And he came out a bit early. But it's been it's been absolutely fantastic. And I just wanna say the top I want to thank everyone profusely for all the wellwisher. It has been such up and down experience like a roller coaster ride at DisneyWorld as given with allude to people wanna wonder how fatherhood or if other hood has profoundly affected me don't worry within the first few minutes of meeting my child in the nursery, my pants did accidents fall down. So it's safe to say. Pants fell down. I live Bronx backup. Exactly your things. Does. I don't know if that's a trademark Mike bloom thing. But apparently, so my wife ended up having an emergency c section go into details to too much, but she is such an amazingly strong woman a troupe or give Angela blue Michelle out if you can out there as such I had to be put in medical scrubs and very quick. So I was just given the set of blue close not giving much instructions and the pants. I'd say they were Kintu data of something that might be more by a surgical clown. These are extra extra extra large pants, and I didn't know exactly what of the etiquette was behind this. So I said all right. I guess I'll put these on. Then I get ushered away into the operating room as they're about to do it. The dodgers are in monitoring me saying, please tighten your pet, sir. There was no time. There was about to be a life being brought into this world. And so obviously, my mind was concentrated elsewhere in the nursery, I'm looking at this beautiful child. You know that this this product this new member of my family thinking through all the thoughts that have been running through my head in the past year, or so one of the nurses just sort of casually points out like, I think your pants are on the ground. And sure enough I did not tie the pads closely enough. So I am standing there. I mean, not nearly as naked as my child, but certainly further not as far removed from it. And so I think it's only adequate first line though. Right. I on the other hand was a man hor. Yeah. Exactly was very much. I guess the a full circle affect between the conception and birth of of Asher j lube. So I think it's only adequate that he'd get. It's his first impression of his father. As just a big old do f- daddy. I'm daddy. Do from now on rob. Yeah. This is like an episode of Ryan's tower view is it. Wherever it keeps their pants on. But. That the tagline toy. If you don't worry every keeps the pants on a lot of jokes at the expense of poor Ryan's, dad. But anyway, Mike boy. Hap- happily. You didn't get arrested. Yes. That's certainly good that I was not brought up out of the hospital in handcuffs, and we quickly alleviated the wardrobe which honestly considering how high my anxiety was writing. I think we sort of needed something to break the ice. Even though it was an XL size of surgical pants, and the nurses, and I had a grand old time about it. I was laughing all the way to the Bank, and it certainly helped bring the mood down for me from all the high stakes tensions and make me realize. Okay. You know, what we have? We have we have ceased one stage of life. And now we are moving into the next one's very much pre merger into post merge version of life. I've never heard a childbirth. Scribes is that? Yeah. I guess I'm really taking a page out of David all breeze books. The books of metaphors about survivor and apply them to the most basic events like to hear Angela describe it as. For this like post merge. Eat a lot. All right. Well, my what a great week we have here on the podcasts, of course, excited to have you here. But also coming off the heels of one of one of the really memorable podcast in recent memory of the Christian Hubin real deep dive into the season three plus hours with Christian Vicky this week. Yeah. And adventures endgame length podcast when Christian ubiquity, I love it. Sometimes rob you go with the theme. Apparently this theme week ended up being fast talking gregarious nerds. Because Chris I have to be a double feature here. But I mean, he's delightful to lessen to I think we might need to do something with not to supplant myself into Jordan keilor's position, but we might need like a new final boss in the Twiss quiz to bring him on. Because my God. Like if you could put like Paul also center run for his money in terms of remembering so many minute detail about survivor. Season's over the years. It's truly fascinating. Okay. Boy that would be a real. Somebody on the twist bucket lists, of course, twists still to come with your co host for international survivor coverage kicking off next week. Shannon gates, so be on look after that. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast, rob has a website dot com slash items. Right, Mike, I guess so let's pick things up now like my pants, especially pants, and we our top story at this hour done. Rick Devon's continues his March towards the survivor and game with a really strong showing this week wins immunity and holds the hidden immunity idol heading into the newly constituted final six want. Somebody comes back from the edge of extinction. And so I think that it's only customary that we start with Devon's watch. Yeah. I mean considering the past. Episodes have been Devon's will not. I mean, this has been such a weird season of survivor, rob. And I don't want to get the connotations mixed up here weird. It does not mean wrong in my opinion. In fact, I'd sort of coined this. The trademark train wreck season a couple of weeks ago with all of these big characters really getting taken out in such crazy ways. One by one by one when we were comparing the survivor to the pinball game last week via Jeff produce it does kind of feel like the past couple of weeks, at least from a storytelling perspective, we have sort of tilted the table in Rick Devon's favor and this episode was no different. Okay. Mic where you coming down on all things Rick Devon's the heading into the finale, it's really tough because you know, you have certainly talked about it last week. And I feel like we have to again talk about it this week breaking down what Rick Devon's means to these revive fandom because I really do feel like it's a lot more new. Ons than you can really grasp by attributing once or or viewpoint or the other to it. Because I feel like there are people who do not like Rick Devon as a person certainly that happens with every survivor contestant, they feel he's too gregarious. They feel it's his to Hammy with the the news time confessionals that he's to braggadocious. There are people who are fine with him. But dislike the way he's playing the game in that survivors game of social strategy and going around finding idols by yourself is not exactly it's an antisocial strategy as much as a big part of the game as it has become which we've seen in previous seasons as well. Dictating the endgame what I find so interesting about Rick Devon's is that this is one of the first time, I can remember where essentially the jury is kind of being sold a Bill of goods, and we know it as well as the other players. I think that's where a lot of the pushback is coming from as well. And we can certainly talk about. The idols of it. Because I think there is some pushback there as well. In terms of a people questioning the legitimacy of that as a game play style. But it just gets so interesting that you know, we do have such a big showing from Rick Devon's at tribal council, he puts on these major performances, and the fact of the matter is tree sorta no it's BS and everyone else sitting there next to him. No, it's sort of be as but the jury as far as working -cerned are totally lapping it up. I'm not making this a reference to weeks in a row, but it's very much like tar tooth this French play where a man gets invited is a house guest. He acts completely Boris to everyone in the household, except his friend who just cannot see pass that facade and just sees as this fantastically. Nice guy. And I know you in Christian sort of talk through as as to how you sort of get the jury on your side or to win favor away from Rick Devon's. But it is source slowing this season has been so startling to me. I think one of them is that we are seeing. Him be able to you made the inspector gadget reference a couple of weeks ago. I think it really shows that he's like great job. Devon's. This is all your doing. When really this is all the doings of several people working behind the scenes and not really mentioning it. Or being as forthcoming about it as they might be with other moves, right? I also think it's a little more complicated with that. Because I don't think it's necessarily just the jury. But I think that to a lot of the viewers of the show. It's also coming across that way that I think that I mean, it was not really laid out in the episode. And I think that some of the people who have been following this show regularly can jump to the conclusion. Okay. I Rick probably didn't change anybody's mind at the tribal council, but the show certainly didn't clear up whether or not that that was the case, we're just deducing that that was the case, I think majority of the viewers are. Taking that Rick's demonstrations at tribal council are also having this really positive effect in what's happening. I would agree with that as well. And I think maybe that buys into that typical survivor editing adage, and I know that we have made things were unconventional in recent seasons. But it's still holds that the way they typically like to do things is they like to keep tribal council. A relative surprise because they don't wanna go through ten minutes of question and answer where you know, what's going to happen, essentially. And so like, you said and just like last week there probably was a session where all these people got together and said, okay, we're going to get rid of a roar this week. But of course, they wouldn't show that because these want to either turn a narrative that Rick had changed their minds at tribal council again a couple of shots of when Rick makes this big bluff declaration, you have Gavin. Saying ou I'm nervous and Lauren saying, oh, well, I'm feeling a lot less confident than I did before which might be them sort of pulling their own S as well. But they really were trying to build it up. Like, okay, anybody can go with. This point. And that's unfortunately, I think to the expense of things that might have happened behind the scenes that are not immediately prevalent to both the viewers and the jury as well who again look at things at face value. And see, oh, it looks like Rick was able to pull one over on them not helped by the fact that Aurora pretty much hammered that point home as she got up to leave. Yeah. She said, hey, it's reverse psychology. Is it reverse psychology though? No. I don't think. So I definitely the that was the case, I think it's just I don't know intimidation. That's that's probably what I I mean. I guess what would reverse psychology? Hey, vote for Julie because I'm not going to play an idol on her like I'm trying to figure out exactly what the exact opposite of what Rick wanted to do was reverse psychology. I'm gonna play my item on Julie. I'm going to save Julie. I'm going to save Julie. And then he didn't. I guess it could be technically reverse psychology. According to Aurora. Fall. It's a good question. It's a good question. I'm not entirely sure. I mean, I don't know a rural also comes from that realm of conflict resolution, so maybe she has a better definition of reverse psychology. Maybe she's more used to people using reverse psychology to get what they want. And so she was just exasperated people actually for that. I love exasperated Aurora because I think that exasperated Aurora I'm not sure why she has become a even more popular figure in the season. Because I feel that she really is the voice of all of the discontent survivor fans as she's discussing Rick Devon's in this episode of rape, winning immunity sucks. I feel as though he is just that thorn in my side, which will not go away. I dance your question. I think one reason is that it took us legitimately a month and a half to know who ROY was a little bit of Johnny come lately. But I'm gonna thing that I love about Aurora is that it really feels like in recent weeks that personality that I know I was super high on with the preseason with Josh's interview has finally come out. I mean, not only did she hate rig. Devon's she gets many elements survivor, it Seve's, we have you know, we have word puzzles. We have basketball we have Vink Devon's we have several other taco moms soccer moms, basically, it's like a the anti my favorite things from the sound of music Aurora saying it would be very different. Roar. Hey, all sorts of things and. We'll explore them. But yeah, most of all she hates when Rick Devon's has idols she'll go through his bag. She'll do anything to stop Rick Devon's from having immunity yet. What I really love the Aurora is that, you know, I know you in Christians for talked about like what could have done to save herself. Maybe you could have joined up with Rick and Julie. But as Rick says in his confess voting confessional. You know, the one of the reasons why he voted for her is because he says, you know, you are someone who just wouldn't. You're a cool girl who refuses to work with me. And that's what it comes down to Aurora was the most anti Rick person in this entire cast. She was never Devon's g was. Yeah, she was never Devon's. And I think that that unfortunately, scooter like again on paper or parchment could have been great to have her join up with Julian reconciling that she was getting targeted by her allies without her knowing it, but she's never going to work with Richard anyway shape perform because she can't pull that Thorne out of her side. You don't work with the. Thorn trying to remove the thorn. Okay. Let me play voicemail for you, Mike. And this is from Josh Spalding who has a part of this Devon's debate, which is kind of gotten lost. Let let's hear from Josh Spalding. Gust bombing calling from new cancer. Like, kevin. I find him very entertaining. And as just liter last unless we room he was grading area. Survivor fan any he's just. I don't know worry. I guess what about Devon's win? I don't know that I can stomach someone's got voted out of the game winning the game as much as I got. So I'm just curious. Great survivor oracle. What is your opinion on this? What do you think about that? Is that an issue anyways loved the show? Thanks for all the great work. You guys do. Great great survivor oracle. Did he call James Miller by accident? Mike. Nobody's even talking about. The fact that Rick Devon's was at one point actually voted out of this game. Yeah. It's crazy thing about and I think it's because in previous seasons where this has become a thing with the exception of Burton and Lil we've sort of seen the revolving door affect right? And that was brought into effect by Boston rob of their sort of a wild card. Let's get rid of them. We've been playing our own game out of sight outta mind. I mean, I am having an easier time personally summing it because I think I think we also when it comes to if you break down Rick as a winner. I don't know if you make it necessarily hold it against him as much as the season that he just happened to be on a season where this was a thing in another wrote. Of course, he would be in Australia right now sunbathing with Wendy who's trying to free all the chickens from the local. I dunno Melbourne KFC. But I think that he just happened to benefit from the metric this particular season. Just like other seasons have it in other ways as well. Ben benefited from the final four fire. Making twist, you know, poverty benefited from the final three going down to the final two in survivor Micronesian. It just seems like maybe this is the biggest thing because this was such a big shift in game structure, perhaps the biggest that survivor has ever seen the fact that it might actually happen is to Mr. Spalding is great point a little tough to wrap your brain around it. I Mike will it bother you. If the winner of survivor, whether it's Rick or whether it's the person that comes back from the edge of extinction goes on to win this season. It would probably be less if it was Rick than what's the other person. If it's the other person that really bring those Aurora, hypothetically, what if it was a Royal. She just got voted out as a really Johnny Mack where she's out. She's back in the next day. I puzzle. Nls. Where are you doing diverse college? Hey basketball. John hate it played against the other. Doctors debt is always lose pulling teeth literally work with Devon's I think that rural. I think what it comes down to is just if you have someone like Joey amazing come out who has missed half the game and have them come in. That's just invalidates the realist the main game of survivor complain that people had 'bout redemption on to begin. With was oh, we're going to have somebody win the game who could have possibly spent all this time doing nothing to benefit their own strategic game that just happened to get lucky with this rope. And then make it through a couple of votes Rickwood less great because he has had to work his ass off whether or not, you know, he needed to work as asked if he put himself in situations where he didn't necessarily need to work as ask is one thing to be said, but I think the other thing about it. I've been debating back and forth. And I know that you've asked returning players on your podcast. Would you vote for someone who would come back from the game? But I think that's an exercise in provocatively in doing. So because one thing that I think is really going to benefit Rick here is that this is not a survivor Pearl islands Lil situation, where they said no matter what we're not voting for an outcast because I think the jury is gonna take into perspective that yes, Rick did come back from the extinction. Yes, he was voted out. But that was a chance we all got I feel like in seasons where everyone is represented or most people are presented with that opportunity. It plays a lot more mildly on their taste buds than if it was just oh two people came back pre merge, and we didn't have a chance to come back when we were voted off that's unfair. We should vote against that. It's been a very polarizing season for a lot of different reasons. And it seems like that seemingly almost everybody has found something to complain about with season thirty eight of survivor that is except for one person. Our next guest who's here to talk about Why's survivor. The edge of extinction is a perhaps the best season of survivor. Let's let's bring them in. The phone devil. Alone. Down. Sweep. Paris. Period on our period. Bloom. Thank you so much. David dictating that to us punctuation included. I just knew you had your grimy little mitts all over this season. When it was first to seems like you laid off mostly on survivor, David versus Goliath, you didn't even make an appearance. Our how sorry deduct care for that one on a stinker. I guess so we really want to be sort of steered away from that and more towards the Necker NAMA con of survivor. That's when your time to shine was. This is my baby as opposed to the the your baby that I want to make you a trade offer at some point down the road. But let me say when when I first pitched my idea for survivor edge of extinction to Mark Burnett, and Jeff Probst when I made my pitch. I was like come on devil. Come on come on. I could not believe that they took all of my suggestions. Now just to be clear. I feel like they did walk back your initial suggestion of actually killing the players, right? You said edge of extinction. Wants to be taken literally. I obviously. There was some pushback on that. But when I said, okay, here's my bitch. All right. We've got everybody who's on the show is never eliminated. They can come back and win any point. Notable points will keep bringing people back bring in returning players also mixed with a newbies that was. That was also my idea. Did you was this part of like? Serve like, you attaching, you know, addendums to this as you were going along or was this all one big package nicely wrapped package like Rick Devon's idol that you present it to them. I one package that I put together bloom. I think that we've known each other for a couple of years now it's fair to say that we've become very close. Right. Yeah. Just so you can be so formal you can call me by my first name, Rick. Yes. All right. I I'm I'm surprised that you let that devils this real name that makes sense. And might I say, you're jingle. I'd say beats then then new steam any day of the week. It's much catchier. Don't talk on down. No, we are making so many big changes in survivor hill as we speak that. Now, let me let me explain how this is going to work. So here, it's survivor. Hell we had the whole thing that we do with torturing everybody. But now we have somebody show up and all like. Like, dude, you are so lame. Look, do you know what? Dude of screw you. Oh, brilliant, all the d-ream. I've heard about them. Yeah. Ream reams daily is amazing. So much. So it's fun to watch. I I'm having all of all of millions watching her and training videos. Non step. So you have a birthplace training videos where you have like here's what aubrey's doing don't be like Aubrey be like green. But it comes to approaching people. Daily's motto round here. It's a real goof isn't gallon situation. When it comes to your workplace training, videos and survivor hell. Arime if you wanted to if you wanna work here in survivor how I knew that Ron Clarke has set up a good amount of rules. I can only assume Rick devils. Do you have a set of rules as well for survivor health? We have these six hundred sixty six rules, only, the survivor devil. Wow. Okay. I can only imagine what some of them are considering how you've really said about. Oh, boy that does that sound that pretend to well to be I'm just gonna pretend that reverse psychology. And then I'm actually not going to be countering those rules are. No, that's true. I gotta keep my opportunities. Go for broke nothing to lose, right? So busy this whole season is just been such a such a grind, you know. I'm editing the episodes, right? Okay. So how does that work? You just sort of pull names out of a hat, and you decide those are going to be important people that week. Yes. Very small hat crappy diaper, right? Oh, it's very noticeable hat though. Dog that guy is he's killing it. You know, I'm running his social media, right? Oh, really? Okay. That. Now a lot of numbers are coming together. Now in my head. That's the mean of all the math sort of falling into the pictures knowing that you run more spoke social media. I'm all Hawkeye talk. Cheese line kind. You wrote? Let are you afraid of the Tony krumholz or whatever podcast our half. Sorry. I'm competing with David krumholz the actor. Got so many big things coming up her survivor that I just I hope everybody is boom strapped in that. That makes me very very nervous. You wanna give us a tease of what's Toco? Dr just just hanging there bloom enjoying the as ING race. Oh my goodness. -vivor devil. I am absolutely loving. Do. I do have a question. I think we brought up when we actually I convened on this podcast while ago that I believe in mazing Reese, God is a different type of God have you consulted with amazing res dot at all in terms of hookah brought on this season. Because if you did the results makes a lot of sense. Army? A meeting with the producers of million dollar mile. Okay, Graham, we'll let you get to. I just want to take the Tiba off. That's the that's the first move. We're gonna make bring that back while talking about reaching across the aisle considering how much of a biblical, man. He is. But I just wanted to think survivor devil on air for the baby gift omit. I don't exactly know what I can do with the rice bucket that Brandon Hance peed in and survivor care Mohan. But I guess we can put it in some sort of corner somewhere and let it be a relic of the query. Corner. Remember that always who I guess corner. Is that is that a rule of survivor devils? Yes. In the five hundred 's. Yes, I tell you put the dirty dirty dancing. But I want to thank you for that. Obviously relationship is very interesting to begin with. But I'm glad we were able to find out the the Mr. big reveal of your name. Rick devils. I can't wait to find out more details about you as the seasons for Gress. Be sure stay tuned for the finale on Wednesday night. We I've got a lot plan. Trust me. Boy. All right. I will do on the notes for the reunion show. Will all be on the edge of my seat as others are not on extension? All right. I will talk to you again soon real soon. Boy. Alright t t y l not too. Okay. Okay. You got it rack me out. Say say wreck me. Tony kornheiser. Okay. Well, this is completely loss on may. I appreciate it. Oh, wow. Survivor devil, come in. I you could sorta tell his fingerprints were all over this season. But at least he sort of stepped forward, and we didn't need to necessarily solve them burder here. He admitted himself in the first act of this voicemails podcast. Okay. Why he had a lot to do with the survivor edge of extinction of survivor devil that I wonder what I wonder if what he had to do with the actual edge of extinction element from this episode that seems like it's out of his don't don't conjure him. 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However, she was likely to scared to come out about the stack. She didn't want people to to know that she had an idol herself. Why not just say that she knows where 'cause line because he knows they Kelly thought an idol unless you this is the rest of the players to hunt for the idol and keep closer tabs, Rick author not giving away the fact that she herself has Neidl love to hear thoughts. This is a good catch here by Noah. And this is that seen this was actually very fun on. On the watch through here is Lauren confronting Rick. Stack fidgeting idol on speech. I don't think it. I don't know when we were talking about I love this scene. Because this first one of the only which Lauren is not I rolling at everything you say, yes, let me just play the rest of it. I know it was great. I hope there's one out here. I needed you could tell the cared. I mean, I was against me. So I don't feel I can trust anybody. Getting nowhere with Rick Devon's. What I love about it too. Is that she's not I rolling, but she's almost I rolling through her teeth. If that makes sense, she's eyeteeth rolling where she's like, I know you have a wreck just say, you hovered, we all know, you have the idol. It's beautiful day out here. No come on. Rick yune. I know I know you have it. Boy, I could go for some rice today. Boy, my glasses had had they haven't been cleaned it a while. All the non sequiturs going back forth. Like, oh, man. It was an awesome moment last night. I had nothing to do with that. And they just sort of like for the last two months news. Isn't that fun? Like the most awkward way of playing it off and Lauren just really trying to bring dig into him. But Rick is not cracking whatsoever. Yeah. What do you think about the idea? Should she said, look, I know that idols here because Kelly win worth had an idol. Do you think it would reflect badly on Laura and that she didn't tell anyone else that Kelly had an idol if that's the case because I do think that what is so interesting about this is it comes back to as James limbs. Put it information a symmetry. And it's so interesting to see that I think both Rick and Lauren we're sort of working to the best of their knowledge in terms of what they thought people knew and only they knew with Rick saying. Oh, yeah. This came from the extinction because all advantages do and Lawrence saying, well, I know that's not a fact because I happened to get mine. But I wonder if. If her sort of fessing up about Kelly's, I'd say what else are you lying about Lauren, and considering how fractious it seems that alliance of four is to begin with whenever you sort of look one way. And then look back and wonder if she's not looking for any sort of reason for them to turn on her or her. Yeah. I just don't know why we've in saw the scene if she wasn't going to call him out. It just seemed like she has this information, but is not doing anything with it. Yeah. And so interesting how she has been able to sit on that not only sit on that idle for so long, but just sit on the information out at four so less. I mean with that part of her decision of I can't vote for Juliet tribal council because I bet Rick Devon's has another idle because he's out here looking for it. And then I have to keep Julian the game. Well, I wonder wonder if there was something that could have happened where I feel like I could see the wide law made the decision that you did you didn't even in the great points about how when it gets into the end game as frenetic as all this has been you want to cling to the life. Raft of the person that you think can bring you to the end or you want to go to the end, especially at this point. And she. Found that in Julie. But she also has this sort of guarantee in this idol where she doesn't necessarily need to play. It. If Rick doesn't, you know if Rick actually goes through with his bluff, if it's reverse reverse psychology, and he ends up playing this idol, she could pull a Jeremy Colin and say, oh, yeah. I m my idol to I'll just play this here, and that'll sort of guarantee her own safety guess she'll be left Volna Rable at the final six and five but she's insulated by allies. It seems on all sides. So I don't exactly know if she needs to be playing conservatively with it. It is a nice guarantee to have something in the pocket. But if you have something in the pocket much like Rick was sort of doing this episode allows you to play more fasten loose. Okay. Speaking of all these idols. Let's listen to voicemail from real BG low. Hey, rob real low here. They fan of you and Christian longtime. Could we be headed for another advantage gettin? Two people are going to be immune from the votes because they will have the deadlock boats, one personal immunity, Devon's has an idol and Lorne as Neidl. So there's a small, but very real possibility that someone could get Surridhe. What do you think? Thanks. Okay. All right, and sometimes people call in and leave a question for the recap gas, and we don't get you. It should I enter this question. Ask chris. Okay. All right. Let me try to get into character here. Okay. Great. Let's do this. Okay. Christian. Do you think that there is a possibility of advantage get into okay? So we need to relieve break this down into quantum structures. Because that's essentially what it advantages are essentially, they're they're Adams that build into molecules that eventually build into boating blocks as the building blocks of survivor society. So if you look at this, I think what happened in survivor thirty four and the finale that brought Sirri out to row roving applause in the audience was the fact that there were three idols being played right? There was there was Troy's in the entire played his two idols. I think we're Bijal might be doing which is a bit rash. If you will is that he's assuming it's going to be deadlocked tie. He's going off of the the the conventions that rickets presenting of it being a three three deadlock. I just think everyone is thinking so individualistic -ly as they should concept of free. Radical molecules electrons hopping from Adam to Adam that produce molecular bonding, if you will begin the building blocks of our life that I don't think it might be a three three tie. No matter who comes back. So I will say we can stave off advantage. Get in for one more round one more season. Yeah. I still well-done Christian. So I say I -gree with you the other thing going on advantage get in which is not going on here. Answer that even got to the vote on advantage getting or at least read the votes because it worked out that there were three idols played individual immunity, and then also Sarah Lena had to legacy advantage. So that was a what ended up creating advantage can this. I think is more likely to be a scenario, Allah, a survivor Cambodia final six where I think it's possible Rick Devon's has his idol. So maybe they feel like oh, but maybe they think he wants to hold it. And if Rick Devon's doesn't win immunity, they convince Rick Devon's that he's going to be safe and put three votes on him. And then also there's three votes on Lauren and both of them play their votes, and then we end up with as zero zero tie as opposed to the advantage get in scenario. Do you think that and I sort of mice fear just vacated my body off to watch the movies on the plane as we talked right? There. Do you think that they would still vote for Rick at the final say considering that Rick? I mean, you could say that he made a fake idol over saying, oh, it's the same. Lisa Frank esque paper that was wrapped up in his previous idol. But do you think because he brazenly showed it off last time they would still put votes onto him? Well, it's positive Ivers have attempted radical things it's there is a person coming back from the edge of extinction. And so hypothetically, you could imagine a scenario where the survivors convince Rick Devon's like, hey, we're going to go after the person from the edge of extinction this round and Ricky saying, hey, this is great for me. If I don't have to play my idol at six I could get through this vote and then play my idol at five. So that there is a possibility if say hypothetically, Joe anglin came back and didn't win immunity. It's like what what we have to. We. Have to go for Joe on this round. But then they actually put their votes on Rick. But then he if sit out and plays his idol anyway. Yeah, I could see that if they're trying to really get one over on them. But I don't know. I think that's going to be tough for Rick to believe because I think one unfortunate circumstance of again, totally going back to what you in Christian said the fact that it may be in another world, you sort of bring Devon's under this false sense of security and say, oh, yeah, we're totally going to work together. And that's how you get into flesh an idol or blindside them with an idol. We saw this happen multiple times this season. But they are so blatantly adamant about being against him that he had does not have an ODA of trust in any of those people. Why would he believe them if they came to him and said, oh, yeah, we're going to vote off the person this time he's gonna say you've been targeting me for the past nine really really think all Mike the best case scenario is then you vote out Joe angle and in. Wastes, his idol at tribal council that I mean that would kind of be and then Rick is vulnerable to be voted out at the final five. I don't know though. Because I mean, Rick has also been winning challenges, and he's been finding idols. And if you played it at the final six there's still a chance it can find one and play one at the final five. I think that the interesting thing that's sort of flip flopped on this season. Is that in the beginning of the merge, you had people like Joe and Eric voted off so quickly because you said, let's fear. These big strong guys who are good and challenges. Rick has now become that person. Maybe by virtue of the fact that also guys have been voted off. I personally take a chance on more of the unknown with maybe some of these other people who come back in and don't have the records in from them as opposed to Rick who has proved himself dangerous, and at least keeping himself safe. Whether inter personally or strategically, maybe not so much when it comes to getting day today. He is proved that he's been able to do that. And that is extremely dangerous when you only have three days left in the game. It's the survivors the Rick devils you do versus. Devils. Okay. Let's take another voicemail. Let's check in with Daniel in Dallas. Hey, so this is Daniel from waxahachie just out the Dallas. I was just listening to the survivor being being and all season. I have been surprised that nobody knows who Ron Clark is. I'm at educator wrong. Clark is like an educator celebrity any teacher countries. Hurt of wrong Clark teachers for all over the country to intern at the wrong Clark academy. I've been to an inservice where he was the keynote speaker before and I know teachers that are watching survivor this season just because of Ron Clark. So I'm really shocked that no one on the show knows who he is. And none of the podcast seem to know who he is because he's like the education guru of. So anyways, just wanted passed on when two guys on that is by okay. First off before we answer that question. Also that he mentioned a big fan of the BNB. Let me play this voicemail. For you. Hey, rob Liana here longtime listener, first-time caller. I'm not entirely sure. How to talk to Mike bloom unless it's on podcast. So I'm just calling in to say hi to Mike. Hey, mike. Hope everything's going. Well, hope you're enjoying the voice mails podcast. And I'll talk to you later. All right. Let me say this. This might be the most literal voicemail. We've had a survivor voice podcast. Yeah. Okay. So shout out to Liana who's holding down the BNB again this week. Which is needed. We barely have a roof on that place. So she's tried to clamp down on it. Okay. All right. But let's go back to Dan's question. And. By the way, people check out the the BNB as well this weekend. I believe ya and cursing mckiness on this week's episode absolutely went north to bring back a couple of great podcasters talk about the end of this season. And certainly a lot of talk involve interesting watching their opinions online, especially over the Rick Devon's topic. So I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of great conversation on there. Okay. Let's go and bring on Dan's question about Iran Clark being the educational celebrity. Did you know about this? So I was I was aware of it. I think the issue is, and I will sort of contest Dan's point, a bit that are I guess on the BNB was Paul also saying who sent kiss the Ron Clark academy new of his book new his story. I think it's unfortunately, just ignorance from the fact that we don't work in the educational field. No rim. I as tuned in to the made for TV movies as maybe the whole Markey's podcast. I would have I really thought of Ron Clark as the dancing guy who kind of sounds like Mr. DNA from Jurassic Park. But I'm having to know more about him. Vid-? You couldn't you can't you hear that. Now, just like his nice lilting positive voice. So what say, hey, here's a mosquito. And this -squitoes just got trapped in a bunch of amber amber on that yellow Yalo, amber faster over Tom and tune into boom, Donald DNA. Those are my friends my Donald friends these about friends. Okay mic. It has come to my knowledge that you have recently gotten a chance to see the affirmation in Ron Clark story. Yes. So here's the thing. When you have a newborn, and you have a lot of weird patches of downtime, and especially last week on the BNB. There was a lot of talk about the rawness horror movie with kiva. Yes. Exactly. And so I thought okay, let me see some time between feedings let me see if I can check this out and good news is it's pretty much a public resource at this point. It is for free on Amazon prime at a slim ninety minutes that's half a Christian podcast, folks. You can get the Ron Clark story for your vote viewing pleasure. Okay. So hypothetically is there is there a piece of it that I should queue up that you wanna talk about. Mike. I mean, I can sort of just talk through. I mean, if you wanna play through the first like two minutes of the movie, maybe there's a very interesting seed that I think sets up the general quality and small Tinus of the Ron Clark Ville. Okay. So the wrong Clark story here. He is with Mr. Chandler Bing. What point are we gonna skip ahead to let me see just one second. Honestly, it's like the first scene. It's a really stupid. Emmy. So let's talk. Let's see Matthew Perry walking into school. Aurora North Carolina that why he hates Aurora so much. Oh my God. I broke it open. Wow. Wow. Oh my God. That's a revelation. This is totally Slumdog millionaire. If you think that it was going to be hard to win the million dollars. Then I should get two million dollars for being from Aurora North Carolina. I should get three million dollars for teaching in Aurora North Carolina teaching Aurora how to push out rice. Okay. Let me go back to Matthew Perry here. Clark ready for your first day. Yes, ma'am. I'll be with you minute. And I'll introduce you to your class. Ron Clark looks over. And sees a kid in a garbage pail. Not all the garbage pail kid, but yes, we should also detect in case you have in hydrate. Your finely tuned nary a southern accent coming out, Matthew Perry's mouth. I think I'll talk about this later the authenticity on the wrong clerk story is not your story based on this is very much like a brick Devon's like approach of. Yeah. This is how Ron Clark sounded. And this is how we acted absolutely. Based on events in the life of Ron Clark. Right. What happened to you? Did you can't learn so should go? The trash. Mr Clark what union creek? Was it gets name has Lee Craig which sounds like if someone was trying to write a knock off to kill a Mockingbird fan fiction. Like, that's the character. They would name their main their lead to meet. I'm so sorry. I'm so forgetful. What's my name again? Mr Clark C. You just learned something kick you out of there. Clark. Bearn teacher put himself in the garbage pail. Put them in the garbage Bill. I believe this was sanctioned punishment from the teacher to say, you has the kids. So is stupid put it you must stand out with the other garbage police tend in this way stats. Get your game is trash. So go stand in the wastepaper basket. Wait, we're not doing that anymore. It's a good thing. Ron Clark came along to get kids out of the garbage pails. I think long clerk single Hanley ended the garbage pail kid phenomenon. I'm pretty sure he said, listen got making those collards teachers are being encouraged by it. Yes. Okay. Well, this sounds like the school was really going to. Sco seat, the survivor devil. Ron Clark came in. And it got this thing straightened out. The first words in the movie are literally the words of Ron Clark. Yeah. So, but we're spending only a brief second here compared to like the edge of extinction. As compared to the rest of the episode so wrong Clark. They sorta yada out through the fact that he fixed Aurora elementary school. So he goes in for challenge. He literally spends thirty seconds is. I mean Aurora is not a common lame. I don't know. I really am. Not sure that it's just I think it's serendipity say Ron dip eighty to play on the same six. He's such a big tenure of his life in Aurora, North Carolina. And if that's the case, I feel like he was the one to try to bring her over to his side. You know, he tried to talk her down after the job. Oh, maybe that's why he had sort of personal reverberations with her. So we're really is wild. So Ron Clark decides must like he did last episode to move away from Aurora to go up to the big city to really teach these underprivileged kids and their several question marks about this movie that now I can sort of fill in the blanks. There was some questions as to why is there a scene or one Clark drinks a bunch of milk? Yes. Well wonder in order to connect with the kids run Clark, essentially decides to humiliate himself I guess much like I use the same method to introduce myself to my child accidentally. So he decides to metaphorically dropped his pants by saying. All right. I'm going to teach you grammar, and you have to stay silent and astute every fifteen seconds. If you do that. I'm going to drink a carton of chocolate milk. He was intially creating his own challenge within the classroom hoof. Yes. Yeah. It basically went away of primetime ninety nine Alex Stein. By by the end of it. There was also a question as to why does Ron Clark dress-up is Robin Hood at one point when he is short on cash. He didn't have that two million dollars for putting up with the roller on North Carolina. Neither the person Aurora run clerks in unnamed themed restaurant as dressed up as Robin Hood. Here's the interesting wrinkle in the story again based on a true events run clerk foles for a lovely young woman named I think Brandon who no not Lloyd. But it's the person who's dressed up like Cleopatra. So yeah. Certain liberties liberties with the low at the Ron Clark story like lady liberty, Dr Mike with point no and labor. Liberty was she was out that shift to the person who dressed up like her? Had to clock out for the weekend. She had a thing to do. Okay. All right. So if you recommend the Ron Clark story, absolutely not oh. It's it's a fine movie. And you know, what it's inspirational enough if you do wanna see Matthew Perry doing they actually do the Ron Clark presidents rap ended is even weirder. Having Chandler Bing. Do it. It's like a copy of a copy of watching this sort of by-pass through and they end the movie by all doing a mighty duck group hug while chanting the president's wrap, which I guess is there. Rousing theme would say, it's typical you know, stained in deliver fair has some weird Matthew Perry performances in there and the small details like Aurora North Carolina. And the fact that early Hudson plays the beleaguered principle because much like his character Winston, he'll do anything for a paycheck. I think I think it's a fine movie. But it's not either trash worthy to watch it all or great enough to really indulgent hour and a half into it. Okay. All right, Mike. Let's go. Let's go to our next. Voicemail, and let's bring in a another one of our callers who's excited about the finale and the reunion dad's highlight from me on this Wednesday is going to be what buzz were you think we'll here in the lively union show. I think Mike that a little bit of unfair edge last time with the word show. But I never lied it. So hard to hear bird in my life. You eat the picks fide words, but they need to be unique to this season story. So what are you about passengers reengage a dude cues carefully because this could be the shortest reunion yet? Okay. All right, Mike, it's time to play. Everybody's favorite game. What will he said at the finale? She was this song mil thick too. An eight bit sold feels like it's Britain by a pot. By the time on this that we used to get voicemails from the wo- Matthew Rogge's, and he called in. And we don't know what song used to call it. And it had something to do with Donkey Kong. So that's just now some other some of the version of donkeys Kong. So until it gets the real song that we don't have a pretty sure that's the original donkey from the hurricane machine. Mike. How is Donkey Kong survivor? Will you know, what when you keep jumping pass, and you're dodging barrels left, and right, rather, they'd be advantages or opponents you think you get there. But then damage somebody grabs that mallet, and they go crazy. But when you grab them out, you think you have the advantage. You can't jump. It's far and boom a blindsided barrel. Takes you out and your Pauline million dollars is lost to some other big ape seared on Thomas. I could just like walk across those barrels though, right? I mean half of worlds apart did in that one challenge. So she's got this. Okay. All right. So last season we change things up that you and I had being drafting who will speak or. Who won't speak then who will speed we'll speak. And then we went to what word will be said. And it's interesting because I feel like what word will be said reunion. Ironically, went back to the old format where we could have theoretically done who don't be spoken to right. But this time around I am projecting a very long episode proper. And I don't even think we're going to get to the live reading of the votes until about ten thirty eastern time if I had to project this I've also project that I do not think we're going to get our typical six or fifth place or comes out to Jeff and the audience to talk about how much of a fan favourite they become just because no offense of this cast. I really doubt that unless huge character comes back from the F Evans. I think they'll do it. They're not having Rick Devon's go out and six if if they do maybe, but I highly doubt. That's the case. If Rick Devon's does. Go out at fifth or six that. He will definitely get that interviews spots. Are you say that he will not if he or using that unlikely that it's impossible? He's not he's going to be voted out if they're six I would say the ladder. If it is the former I hope they set up another or he doesn't he loses the fire making they talked to him. Then maybe I could see a chance of that happening. I just personally think from a storytelling perspective considering how much has been given to us. I know that there's still a lot of story to go. And I don't necessarily means. Oh, yes. Rick is definitely winning g g but I think at this point it would be foolish to not see Rick at least in the final three im- known. How right winning if he does fall to four five or six I hope survivor rolls out a nice like cardboard paper banner. So that Rick can burst through the cool. Eight prophesized a long time ago. Yeah, he could walk out onto the finale stage and. Okay. Mike. How about this question? If the returning player to the game turns out to be the one of the returning players. Do we and they get voted out right away at six to we talked to them took a question. I feel like if it's Aubrey or Joe no, I feel like if it's David maybe I think we're turning stands. I think that the person who stands the highest chance of getting talked to as a returnee is Kelly Wentworth. Okay. I think any of the returnees comes back into the game. And then goes out before the final four than I think, we definitely talked to them. I don't know because I guess it depends on like if they're sort of utilizing their economy and saying, okay, we're dedicating more time to the show in less time to the reunion. I guess it would be a way to sort of kill two birds with one soon. I don't know it's tough finding people this season. Even from the returning perspective that you could compare it to like a Davey or a Donna thin or like, Dr Mike were Devon that. You say yes, we need to bring them out in the middle of the reunion to have the audience react to them. Okay. If it's reams will remain get that spot. Oh, man. I wish oh how I wish that would happen. Just to have remained dress Jeff down to give him the roasting. That is. This whole idea was she's probably pro edge of extinction. I mean, she would have been long forgotten. If. It was not the extinction. Can I mention one quick fig about your Raymond pressure that I love so dearly with us? So obviously, I know that you are since it's a very loud impression your lien away from your might make your audio peak. But it sort of sounds like at all times ream is just like hovering around in the room and cures. You talking about her like gelling off, Mike at you. You know, what did you think? I don't hear what's going. You know, like with those side of my head that says stupid idiot loser. Just in the corner trying to plead out this rice PVS kit. Hearing all these things about me. Yes. Have to talk to they have talked to him when they if they do that. Okay. So that that being said, Mike, we we ended up last season landing on the word draft of now NHS who won that did you win that? So I fix presently enough. I did. But I think it was purely by I'm going to I'm like Aurora, I'm not a big basketball fan. So I'm going to bungle this reference. But I feel like I found my sort of like Kobe Bryant of that team as the voice mail or pointed out, it was the word show, which by four carried the weight of my team the bird. I'm honestly enough was nice big albatross and to not get any points. All right. So let's go back and forth. And it will each draft five words, and we are counting the number of times that that word is said and Mike as the winner of the draft. I will give you the first. Pick. Ooh. Boy. Okay. Let's also let's sister a couple of ground rules, actually. Maybe it's not fair for just me to set the ground rules. But let's let's take some words off the table. Let's have our greed upon words that do not count. Let's. A table of certain words that you are promptly released cutting the ropes on and slamming down as you're you're your auction idea here. So let's just that banned words are edgy extinction. Player move. Generic generic words that are sort of just like survivor where we're looking for specific words that pertain to this particular season and no proper names. All right. Well, let me start in some gray take title immunity off the plate. Okay. So then from that perspective. Can I started some great territory and say advantage the advantage out darn it off the menu off the menu? Okay. So that being said, let's let's see if we can nail down our our our draft. All right. Well, I'm gonna have to let me. Start with a easy word to deal with the theme. Let's say quit quit. Okay. I think again, I have no idea who we're going to be talking to in this. We might have a better chance of talking to another celebrity that's in the audience or a child that likes to write on Jeff's back than the actual players. But I feel like if when we talk to someone who was on the edge of extinction. They'll constantly about the fact that I was going to quit. I did not quit. I persevered and made it to whatever point. I did good. Okay. Mike. What about if Jeff probe says these words is that is that? Okay. I mean, considering that I've won Chile from the fact that Jeff said show so many times in father. I gotta go with the with the daily double here. I'm going to go with renaming food. I'm gonna go with lame. Could you imagine ream as the host of jeopardy now that God forbid if should things go south for Alex trebek's, put it on the universe? Mike. I think you have a good. I take it back. I take it back, but it could be a possible replacement. Yes. Okay. They should consider her. She get a real together. Okay. Dude. In lame are going to be both off the list. All right. Well, then let me let me take the the double rights special here. All go with pilot and passenger. Ooh. Okay. I figured I'd cover my basis here. I don't know if it will be referenced because it feels like it has not been mentioned a lot since David's left his time in the game. And apparently disappeared from the show save a couple of letter reads in this episode, but I figured I cover everything here in terms of major terminology. Okay. Boy. Now. Now, it's getting thin. Now, we're getting down to the Knesset. The word news. Okay. All right. I'm feeling it. Okay. Now, I will I get to get to also give you say, let's all count news. If Rick Devon's things his Osos catchy snatch. Eat theme song. Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun. You get you get a six of a point for every done that comes out of his mouth. Okay. All right. So let's go with news. And let's go with wedding. Okay. Okay. Now, speaking about Gavin unless you're hoping unless you're hoping for some sort of Joe in Sierra on the stage wedding at the edge of extinction. I think it's I think I got a lot a few outs there. I think that's what might be survivor. Devils alluding to Sierra can navigate those donkey calling barrels down to the stage. Yeah, let's talk about Gavin's wedding. And and we're looks like we're going to have another survivor wedding. Okay. Wins the wedding Joe. And like, I think that that could be a possibility. All right. Let's see here might has quit pilot and passenger, I guess, let's go. With. Let's go with let's go with return. Return? Baiting who will return? It is interesting not to go on too much of a change in the middle of this game. But it is really interesting. How it feels like I personally feel like there was so much going behind the scenes that people debating who's gonna come back from the extinction and how that might affect their voting. But it is nary mentioned on the actual show itself, which I feel like is very different than what we usually see in terms of people's strategizing around redemption island previously. Do you think it's going on? It's just not mentioned. I don't know why. We'll find out. I guess it just depends because I'm still in the camp where I'm not entirely sure of Gavin in Victoria made the right decision here considering that it's such a wide open field as to who comes back from the extinction that you can dispute Rick's point that it would be guaranteed three three should somebody come back. And so why discard someone who is supposed to be loyal to you than just take shot in the dark with Julian if rig does play the idol, then you know, what you get a chance as well to come back. So maybe the return can you mention there, especially if Rick ends up having a winning narrative here, that's a huge part of his story. Okay. All right. One and I have one left. So I am going to go with now. I don't want to necessarily make this thing where my fifth man is always a wild card here. And I don't know if all goes high as bird did. But lemme aim in the tude category. Because I'm thinking about the topography of the edge of extinction. Then thinking about Jeff's extravagant claims about the pizza temptation that happened at the reward challenge that one time my final word is going to be mountain. Oh. Say pizza. I doubt if you might have been better than mountain. I don't I doubt pizza will be mentioned unless I mean, maybe the reunion go super long and they ask on stage four pizza. I feel like bound just has so many uses and they could say emotionally I had to joke myself up the mountain to eventually some at the peak and raise the flag, even though Dement quitting. Okay. For my final word. I will say sale say, okay. Final word. Now. Let's go homophobic here. Are we going when the sale SA L SA L S L? Okay. So if if Rick says, I have a new memoir for sale where Wendy says, I have a new edge of extinction t shirt line for sale. We're not gonna count that war dog. If anybody wants to get tiny hat. I've got a new store. For sale if you buy one of my head, I'll call you on the phone. Account with you allergic count seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty. Okay. Perfect. All right, there you go. So here's the list. Okay. One point for every time. Somebody says the words quit pilot passenger return or mound for Mike bloom. And then I get dude lame news wedding sale. Should we also then go double or nothing for same list for the game of thrones episode this week? Yeah. You know what let's do it. I think that considering that there is one character that falls into my category. I don't know if he's actually the word red wedding winter, Phil. Somebody could be taking lame. Yes. Someone good brand. You're so lame. We could say. Yes. Ream of house Daleas come in after the night the night king with scare on grey joys. Go set sail. So you could hear her from miles away. Say Danny has lost something for John to pilot in the last episode drogue on has a passenger. So all right. Let's let's keep keep track on on both of these things. You know, what let's let's put it in a third one here. Let's say if it's mentioned during I don't know if it's mentioned during the big bang theory. Finale, we'll put some points there. All right. The best two out of three if it's okay? All right, Mike, let me think another one of our sponsors are other sponsor for this of the podcast, and those are our friends over at twenty three and me twenty three and me Stephen fishbach tried to correct me twenty three. And I know it's not what it's called. It's twenty three and me, and Mike I was very interested to hear, of course, the twenty three and me what they do is they allow you to learn all sorts of cool things about your DNA, including your ancestry. But Mike I found out that you yourself have done Twenty-three in me. Yes. So I've done it rather recently. At least I ask for it for Christmas from my parents, which I realized now might have been a bit. Insulting to their faces. Saying, hey, I want to know where I come from can you please? 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Learn about genetic similarities and differences between herself and relatives and opt into connect with people who share her DNA this mother's day. Get thirty dollars off Twenty-three AMIS health and ancestry kit at twenty three and me dot com slash rub. That's the number two three eight E dot com slash rob. Again, that's twenty three and me dot com slash rob offer ends may thirteenth. Okay. Yeah. I really like about twenty three and me is that it did give me an option as well to see other people who also opted into the program that I might share relations with in terms of blood relations. So it's cool. It's like discovering your own possible. Blood versus water partner, you are climbing a tree much like Rick Devon's day. It's just a family tree set of an idol tree. Okay. Mic. Let's get back to the voicemails. And let's pick up with a question that I think is an interesting one that is from Lindell and Marc Staal ya. In the seasons where there's a really lopsided edit. This storyline really doesn't make a lot of sense until after thing. Finale lucky garland, for example, I think the story being told here's of the first thirteen nothing win up. Otherwise, I think Devon's is coming forth, and this is the weirdest go to edit that I have ever seen. I don't know what the hell's going on. What do you think the story of the season is? Thank you. And congrats Mike. Okay. Thank you, Lindell Lindell. I just shut Lindell the most full bloom wand offer, there is my husband's out to her in every way that was very clean voicemail from Lindell. Very very closely for you. Okay. Mike. Do you think that Rick Devon's could be on his way to a thirteen zero win on Wednesday night? First off it is insane. That yes, we've been going on nineteen years, I survivor, but the fact that we're talking about possible thirteen to nothing jury vote is one of the most regard, Deb, dick Yetlis things. I've heard all right. So here's what I wanna do so thirteen let's forget about thirteen zero. This is the question. I want to ask you that. Do you think that if Rick Devon's goes on to win the game? Will he set the record for the most votes cast for a winner of season? I think in most he will tie. Okay. So so you're you're calling. He will not get more than ten. Yeah. So here's here's what I'm thinking. Sort of sketched out my own little final three here, and knowing how roll my predictions are on the offer mention being be do not take this as any sort of gospel. But the way I feel like I'm partially seeing it again, this is all affected by who comes back from E, which will definitely talk about. But I'm seeing a possible final three as Lauren. Julie. And Rick, okay. That's the final three that I've been ruminating around. Now, if we're playing a little bit of jury jeopardy here. Maybe that's the one that really can host. We have I feel like Ron would definitely vote for Julie. I feel like Lauren with definitely get votes from Kelley, maybe from Davin or Victoria, depending on the method that day go and Rick could get the rest. So I feel like depending on how things shake out. I still think Rick would win in those circumstances. But I feel like there's a chance that especially because we don't have. I think I forget who talked about this. But I feel like when you get people together in Ponderosa. There can't be a group think that does. Has spread. We don't have group think going on edge of extinction. We get more food think than group think. But I think there will be a lot more much like this season. Biggles like nine three one potentially. That's I'm thinking like nine three one or like an eight four one or or something like that. I feel like this could be a case where all three finalists get votes, depending on who's sitting there at the end. I feel like if Rick is at the end, he will get the majority of the votes, but I don't think he's gonna break. Ten. Okay. Let's go to John in DC who has a question. Preseason Nicole called dibs Aurora being heard, of course, attorney now we've seen Arcand survivor, are you okay? With letting the coal Hafer. Does it change your mind that we know from this episode? That Aurora is not good with words. Talking. She's such good with speech. Just not great. If you if you cut apart the alimony papers into little stripped and had her put them together. That's what she would struggle struggle with that. Okay. So let's listen to a couple of clips from the episode, and this was from Aurora talking about how she was not thrilled with this week's immunity challenge or during the entire explanation. You were shaking your head moving your body happening right now. Where'd puzzles? She really hates them. We'll we'll shorts is shook. Yeah. And then this was during the challenge. Anything to do with? A little shady. I did love this. I love that. We have now if we're talking about the evolution of the game. Like, the of the clapback at Jeff during the challenges have evolved from the Penner salad days to now we had that we had Victoria this episode being like, hey, Jeff, I'm in it to Julie with hyperventilating thing from last week. There's a lot more. Back. Thank you. I love that. Okay. So that would I feel more comfortable with Nicole hiring Aurora as a divorce attorney, no still I still would not love that. I would prefer that Nicole's potential divorce attorney not had any sort of visibility until like the survivor world. I would prefer that, you know, her lawyer would just think of her as like who's this who is this loser. That does a podcast. What is what is that? Podcasting a hobby. All right. He's got nothing. Let's move on. Yeah. I think the best that would be like some fuddy-duddy old man feel like he came out of crypt to be like a podcast, not guest. Yeah. Listen, you can't get blood from a stone. Just give up exam days worth nothing. In fact, you should be giving him money. Don't need it soon. He's. Alimony from you, the only problem the other problem would be a Rura would bring it in terms of the fashion where to court did you see what she wore to ultimately her final tribal council here, rob her fashion game on fleet. Why the robe I mean, the robe was there the pants? She did it. She has this elastic band that? I don't know if it was cut from something God forbid, if it was a pair of underwear, but she was wearing it as a choke her. She had the white flower in her hair. It's if she stepped off this disastrous twenty eight hour flight to Hawaii like she was really cleaned up for what was surprisingly her final tribal council in the game. Maybe we'll see if she comes back. Also, I would not want to go toe to toe with Aurora in the courtroom. When my lawyer was saying your honor. It means the the most that my client is seeking full custody of the children and would be very upset if the did not get complete. Full custody of the kids. Do you fall? Fall. And also wouldn't help if she's standing and your lawyer happens to pass out did it conditions. She's gonna she's she's gonna keep going say. Now, look judge while this is going on. You know, my cases rock-solid I need this to happen. But she doesn't like soccer mums. So maybe she doesn't want to take Nicole on the client that she should say. First question. What sports your kids play? That's it. I'm out. Yeah. Second question. Do they play basketball? If so maybe I could work with that as long as I'm not playing basketball. All right. Let me start with. Let's stay on the challenge. And this was Jeff describing this this challenge, and it was something that was so familiar to people when they had to slide the the letter tiles across the board. I. Your backyard. Just like a game you play in your backyard. Mike sliding tiles. Yeah. I mean you never played scrabble gong before. This is slide. Q. Double words. I mean, look people can be Astles when they play scrabble. That's just a way to really put a sound effect on it. Okay. So that one cracked me up, and then a couple of Rick Devon's quotes from this episode. Hey, Rick Kevin's had this to say about how much fun is having a ton of fun where these guys out I feel like a kid or like the fugitive either one is just as fun. That fun to be the fugitive Harrison Ford had the best time running from people who accused him of murdering his wife. He was clearly the most delighted he's been in years. Yeah. He got he got to dive off a damn, rob. I mean, that's just like cliff diving levels of ecstasy. I guess so is there a scene in this new fugitive where Rick Devon's is standing there with his hands up? Anything? I didn't find the idol and Lawrence saying, I don't care you. I know you did. I could see Lauren Tommy Lee Jones, right? Boy. A murder run from the police nonstop fun. I loved Rix Bigfoot run as well. Or just see this panning shot of him. Just making a mad dash across the jungle pants back, Victoria, just sort of staring like, I'm not gonna go after him. What the hell is he doing this that live action, sonic, the hedgehog reboot? And everyone's talking about no too creepy fits listen Rick is as contentious as live action silent the hedgehog is and his teeth are just to see him in. Yeah. Also Gavin described Rick in unusual way at tribal council. He's the master Scouse. He's the master of the skies. That's when he pulls off at this guy's real. It was Dana Carvey all along, rob. That's why. Carved. Dana Carvey, can I ask a question about Gavin off topic. I'd rather have a question about the Carvey. But go ahead. I mean, listen, also, we'll talk about who deserves to be in the turtle club after this. But is Gavin the most normal person to ever place -vivor. Because I mean, no offense together. But look at him. He seemed just like. This is a relatively normal guy. Very mild mannered where it seems everyone else sort of has these quirks and quirks that pop in various ways Gavin just seems very much a smooth operator that doesn't seem like someone would be like, oh, yes. You belong on a reality show. He just seems like a normal person picked out of a lineup given a festive shirt and put onto the show. Would you know him? I think he's he's doing a great job in the game. Even if I might disagree with some of his actions, but his personality at least an interesting comparison to everything else around seems like a pretty normal guy. Yeah. Which again, you need your Michael blue to compare to the other blue mischief going on around. You just seems so interesting that especially nowadays when I think we've really get wacky personalities out of some of these people that you have just just girl Gavin. I think even in the first episode I was reading over my notes and Eric's. What's the wacky thing about living in the south and like fraud pickles? That's Kevin in a nutshell. Here is Rick Devon's talking about why this strategy has been so -ffective for him. I love making them paranoid because it makes them mentally and emotionally exhausted. Brings me joy. It's the Marie condo strategy for Rick Devon's where he is going around looking for all the clutter and just clearing it out. Yeah. Exactly. I know that all these idols are calling you causing you guys pain you to release them. I'll take them very bring him joy. Even though ironically enough, I think Devon's could be on an episode of horrors for his own, you know, mischief. Giving these TV guides. They someone gave them to me anonymously. They dropped them off in my mailbox tudent Rick Colm on we both know that you thought the all of Murphy Brown. There's tune issues of this. Rick. No insult you know, that that's why you got into news. I don't know. I don't even know who can't is Bergen. Is you know, she looks lovely. Hey, look Thursday there in the wizard of Oz on TMC. And Lauren this to hating Rick Devon's allies? She also hates something else is going crazy disappeared nowhere. It's like hide and seek and I always hide and seek if the kid. No. That's a very Aurora type thing for Laura. Hey tied and seek to. Yeah. I would assume she's like why are you hiding? I suck at this. I can never find people. Half of these contestants blue graded and seek. You haven't seen them in forever? Say hi edit bay, they're graded hide and seek, but that's your job necessarily, there's. But I mean learn for what it's worth was able to be the first to find an idol. So maybe it's just a late late coming set of hide and seek skills. Mike. I want to talk about something that went on on the edge of extinction with you this week. And the survivors got a very special reward that we've never seen before on the show. Pushed further than anticipated. Stood the test. This is the wetter. You wrote to yourself or the game. I don't feel like there was a happy on. I feel like that was an off wrap really. Yes. Now, you have to do some reading good thing Aurora wasn't on the edge of extinction yet because that would have involved looking at words, which she does not care for. Yeah. What are these? I hate word sequences. Okay. And mike. I was just wondering if perhaps you could instead of wrapping for us today that could you read to us from the letter. You wrote yourself before you started podcasting about the edge of extinction. Ooh, okay. This is fun. 'cause I literally do this every week. Anyway on the impeach is right down the stupid things. I wrote before this is not unlike the the BNB I will say before we just get into that. So it's interesting that they did this. This might have come out of nowhere. I'm assuming that rob. You did not need to do this during one of your seasons. I have experienced doing this of this was something where at my college in the first week right before or during orientation, we had to write a letter to ourselves during the last week of college. We got those letters back and read what we. Wrote to ourselves. It was interesting because first off I do not think it was appropriate to give seventeen year old boys. The capacity to write to twenty one year old boys. The brain has certain maturation points that they reach at. It was a quite salacious. But what happened? I mean, it's stupid things could hook up again ru cronk on Blue Wave. And of course, I you know, might have fulfilled. One of those requests one of those things off on the other hand was a man hor was not at Bluewave hor. But I think that one of the things that I did it was I thought all right? I'm gonna treat this as an investment opportunity. I'm gonna put twenty dollars in this envelope. So four years from now, and this is an a savings account there won't be any interest rates attached. But you know, what I'm gonna get twenty dollars in four years. That's going to be awesome. Let's say I had a bit too much Blue Wave and other drinks the day before the letters were given out and I miss getting my letter. So consider that the first twenty dollars. I gave to my college. What is Blue Wave Bluewave is a horrible horrible vodka? It's a blue raspberry vodka. That comes in a plastic handle. That's one of those college things that you're like, well this comes in bulk I might as well use this poor this into some solo cups while we play risk together. Because that's sort of class clientele. I associated myself wave in playing risk yet. That's those were my weekends kiss. Anyone sort of expectations to the opposite. Yeah. I wonder if it's still I hope it's not still in the market. Yes. It still is. And it looks just as grody as ever I would not recommend it. I would rather eat a mountains of survivor pizza. Then indulgent any blue. Why Bluewave cheap it was cheap? And you know, you're looking for like, it's cheap hord alcohol. You know, it's just like the. I thought Seagram so was like a cheap type of Jin, basically when it comes to college. Like, if it's plastic you're good. You know, it's exactly the opposite of the environmental procedures. We're not going green here. If it's if it's plastic it'll get you in the state that you want to or who has taste buds when you're in your formative years. Okay. Bluewave vodka the but guess sponsored by Blue Wave. Yes. Mix. Simple tastes that adds to any party. Also, by cheers health. Exactly. All right. So some writing letters myself, I feel like we've gone all gone onto a Blue Wave at this point away from the main island with with some running a letter to myself before covering edge of extinction. Yes. Okay. Let's could you read to us from that letter. Mike, mike. Wow. I can't believe it you made it all the way to educate extinction. I I hope your babies doing well. And that none of your garments were shown to him and dropped on the floor. Boy, would that be embarrassing and any rate edge of extinction is a weird survivor season. But I hope you created with the same kid color gloves. Wait sort of phrase, kid, kid gloves. Kid gloves Scher, kid, colder clubs love Typos in this letter floating out stream of conscious. It was written with one of the tribal council pen. So I couldn't really go out and cross a lot of stuff out. I didn't wanna pull an Aubrey since I knew that she would be cast. I hope that the returnees do not monopolize a lot of airtime. And if they do whatever, they do they don't continually target each other. I hope we get to see such characters as Eric Evan. Chris Underwood and Julia become the mount Rushmore of survivor players are on our screed. I cannot wait to see every chicken slaughtered on this. The edge of extinction is going to be a very interesting place where people pull psychological warfare on each other. There will be no hugging. Not a map to be found as everyone sites to wage mental warfare on each other. I most looking forward to warm for Jinyan mother ream daily who has certainly nothing bad to say about her conditions or her fellow competitors. Just a beacon of etiquette and niceties as for the war dog. His hats will be big and plenty much like his love. At any rate. Mike, I feel like gone a bit too specific with this predictions. As I want to do to let me leave you with one. Final thought come on survivor devil. Come on survivor devil. Come on. He s I owe you twenty dollars. Mike. Did you write yourself? Any of thoughts about the world of pop culture when you wrote this note yourself back in January. Absolutely. I said Mike, you know, what you're about to bring a child into the world start talking to colleges. I bet you could use your pole real well to see if they can get a spot on that USC rowing team. Good idea. I can't wait. I hope that all celebrities are in the audience like constants Wu are Kelly and the fire festival, creators all. Hold on. Contested six. Wow. What a great. I'm sure the final season of game of thrones is received positively by absolutely everybody. The season is overflowing with lights, and they're run it over with story, and for God's sake. Somebody better pet ghost. All right. Wow. Mike a great job with that letter. And you should laminate that I guess so because I don't think we've ever seen something that was more wrong in anybody's life. So I guess I'll I'll post that up. Maybe I'll hoisted up like a flag just waving in the wind put did you think of how this segment it is interesting? It's so so many ways. Yes. By the way, is Constance Wu the rim daily of fresh off the boat. Dude name you wanna get renewed. You know what? This. Crazy. Need to go onto this. You know, what screw this show? But Eddie long, please get out of the sun. Don't get to ten okay. With mental melanoma is something that's really prevalent nowadays. But but otherwise f you lick my book. Okay. So the letter to self was was just was odd. Here's reams letter. Let's listen to Reims letter bring in new patients to be more self sufficient dependent. I'm not needy that I can always be better. We're. Was that really that on the nose? I mean, it was very off the knows that I statement. I think it was like on somebody else's knows that's off the knows. It was I mean this really sound like it applied to rim. This brings me patience to be more self sufficient dependent on not needy that I can always be better seems ironic that reams does not seem to have learned patience from the edge of extinction. Maybe she meant I hope become a new patient at therapist after this. Yeah. Let's hear what else she say. We're. On this. You're voted out. I you your loser. But it took me so long to finally be proud of myself realize. I am a survivor. Well, it took a cream thirty five days of being on the show to realize that she was on survivor. Everything makes sillage more sense now to be fair. It took Keith nail almost seventy eight days to realize survivors. So. Some of the other letters that were interesting, would you think of Chris's letter that Chris Chris learned something when he went out on the rock by himself to read his letter having the edge of extinction. Introspective personal quest to find out why hell much grown how much chains. Yes. Chris a grown and changed PS. Nice. Pene, bro. Tonight. Everybody. Thank you for listening. Why was Chris out on a rock in the middle of the ocean? Did he draw the short straw? When it came to pick these locations uncomfortable, like mermaids only find themselves out there on rocks enduring since or he was the Merman, I suppose he spent enough time at the water God willing, but like that has to be so uncomfortable on both his paternity and back as well. All right. What do you think of this was Lauren at the tribal council? Also from this week. She talked about what it's like to go up against Rick Devon's when he's threatening to play an idol. It's just like the fear factor. Was she shouting out fear factor? I mean, I think she really wants to get a spot on Cullen ludicrous out. She knows how much of a big fan. He is to bring her on with Kelly through the greatest fears of Rick Devon's has too many idols. Are you going to face that fear? Remember when ludicrous was calling out bee's mode cowboy for being a survivor and not on big brother sixteen with Cody and Zack grants. Remember when calebs brother was on there for no particular reason open that's about it. Yeah. And Abby Maria was with seared on Thomas. Yeah. Maybe that's what how Sierra worked up the courage like I could call crawl through a tunnel full of worms. I can Mary Joe Angouleme. Yeah. Clip for clip for Joe's letter, by the way, because I think I misheard something. I don't have the clip for. For Joe Angolans letter. But I do have the clip of bee's mode cowboy being on fear factor. Perfect. It's things act same thing. So. Kayla told me about your experience. Also over extended myself, push myself too hard. I had a stroke, and I had to be lifeline it out. And they nine serious business. That's a fear factor. Yeah. Exactly. Maybe some of these fear factor things, I'm assuming you can do in your backyard right field were meeting. Sure. We remember survivor day say the tribe has spoken to they fear has definitely taken over. And I think ludicrous snuffed are torture. Imagine ludicrous as now we're doing just a big old key party of TV host Rina's now hosting jeopardy. Ludicrous L host survivor the world has gone topsy turvy. Okay. What would you say about Joe's letter? So Joe says be confident be either he says be sneaky or be stinky, and I know his health. Sneaky sneaky, it's kind of sounds like you said be stinky, we can go to we go to the tape. If you want to. We need. This throwing down the flag raising the Matt everybody gets one podcast challenge. Oh, when they appear on the podcast. So Mike is challenging my assertion that Joe Angouleme said be sneaky as one of his Joe Angouleme rules, but Mike thinks that Joe wrote in a letter to himself be stinky race embrace what it's going to be like to be a survivor. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is that you know, he wants to fully immerse himself in the experience not come off as too much of a pristine returning player. Fighter. Are anyone I would've never realized without this journey. Confident. You sneaky commit survivor that you are. I think you're alone on the edge of extinction on this one, Mike. Yeah. I mean, I noticed a little laugh and his voice. Maybe it's because he did right. Be stinky. And he's just laughing to himself about writing it, did you notice? This was not an audio thing. But did you notice what the war dog did in his letter with the I am the war dog? He did start off with the word war dog. So yes, he's still referring to himself in the third person. Let's ever devil inherited his writing skills as well as social media skills war dog. So the first question of the survey was why am I here he crossed off the question and to my best knowledge from what I could discern the screen shot wrote like the up his own rules. So this is the I'm gonna make up my own questions. And I'm going to answer them for me. I'll be the judge Wagner here. It's going off the menu off the advantage menu. Exactly. And I'm pretty sure he just one two three four five six seven eight nine. All right. Let's take some more questions here with the great, Mike bloom. And this is one I'm not really sure I got what the question was here. But let me play it for you. And you tell me if you can follow what not dad Mike is talking about here is Mike. Hey, dead, Robin, dad. Mike non dad, Mike you're wondering if you guys can go through all the players that are still in the game. And rank who you think would be best for each one of their games to be coming back from the edge of extinction. Thanks bye. Okay. All right. So he wants to know for each person who could be the edge of extinction person to come back. I'm not sure why Pepe pig music was included. Do we need to refer to each of these players in Chipper British accent? As if we are narrating them. All right. Putty who is forgiving? Okay. David Rudd as quite the DVD collection survivor the title to the Montel making your baby watch TV yet. Are you? I mean, not. I mean, he's watching the shows that we watch. I mean, he's sort of a captive. He can't exactly walk away at this point from the suffer watching. So he's enjoying the reality TV, the paradise hotel premier that. We watched some typical MTV fair. So we're only raising him on the highest quality champagne television. Okay. All right. Real quick Gavin who would be his number one person to come back. I would say who do get any work with Kelly win worth. I think. Yeah. Kelly loves Gavin. She vocalized Gavin. You would say on paper Gavin's, a best fray, and those are his Donald friend, Eric, but he had a hand in voting him out as I don't think you'd be thrilled to Sierra comeback. Kelly. Went worth would be his number one person to come back. Same for Lauren. I would say definitively. So I could say. Maybe I would say I would say had a I guess because they're considering who she was. She hasn't really been working with anybody. It seems like she's really just become tight with like the Gammon of Auras in Victoria. So if any of them were on e oh, we she would have been good with them. But I commend Lawrenceville much for making so many inroads went her number one. Ally was gone with all these new players. Yeah. Okay. What about for? Let's see. I guess Julie. Who would be her best person? Ron I mean Arsenio hauling it up when she was when Rick's that he was gonna use the idol on her. So I think suffice it to say he is taking her out of the trash cans. She standing right now. Okay, clever. Okay. For Rick Devon's. It's David right. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I guess you could say the interesting thing though about break. Devon's is that since he's voted so incorrectly. You could really bring anybody in it as an ally, you could put David in there, you could put war dog in there too since he voted with war dog on that one. I think those are the top two guys. They don't have hair there. Rick Devon's best bet if David Wright comes back into the game. He's gonna work with Devon's no matter what right that sort of like an interesting scenario of everybody on the edge of extinction is pretty pro Rick Devon's based on the jury, but I don't get the sense that people are dying to work with him. But that somebody might come back and be like in Rick Devon's Evans's corner. And really, you know, change up the balance of power. So here's a question that I have about it. Do you think the person who returned from education things that can legitimately win the game? Yes. Yes. You think so even though they're coming into the game? So so late. They've they're hanging out with the jury all day. I guess so then if that's the point they could have attacked the whoever gets back in the game is going to win. The interesting thing about that. Then is as much as everyone is really, you know, acting like Showtime at the Apollo when Rick Devon's comes out and does his song and dance. They're not gonna to your point. They're not gonna want to work with him because they say, David, right? Definitely would David Wright. Definitely would. But I feel like everyone else would say. Oh, wait. Yeah. They're right. Rick as a huge threat to win. I need to get rid of him. So as much game as Rick was talking about how oh just wait you wait until the person comes in from the edge of extinction. This could be getting nother piece of fake news spoken by Rick Devon's the newscaster. How dare you imply that Rick has a fake newscast done. Will rick? Do a final trouble council. Will he do his trademark news anchor done? I feel like only if it's akin to me to the big brother seven finale where Dr will calls boogie on the chill town line during the jury questioning I feel like only if he's prompted you it and he's done it in public. There was a secret. I think back in three where he doesn't use cast and honor of Kelly's birthday. So I feel like it's common knowledge, even though it's become more private or privatized corporatized as of late. So I feel like maybe if David's on the jury and prompt whether like I want you to answer this question, but I want you to answer it in the form of a news briefing. If that's how ridiculous this thirteen person. Final tribal council is going to go then we're going to hear it come in. Okay. Let's play this questions comes to us from Billy. Victoria, have a worse than the race have a friend. I don't know. Julia. I don't know like I mean to her credit like most of her friends are still there. Yeah. I mean, maybe Julia has just been the most malleable, she is the slime. So maybe that's maybe that's why you've been turned off to selected. I would say that maybe Ron it seems like she had a close relationship with Ron even though he tried to throw her under the bus during that chaotic tribal council believe she voted against Rick along with Ron and Julie she would want to come back. Yeah. So maybe I could see that. So it really Horia who would her person be Victoria is. I know I'm bringing up a trigger word here for you, Victoria, sort of like the slime. She she really is flowing from alliance to alliance which really tough to nail down. You know, who she would want back especially because she has really hot from rock to rock like Eric in the middle of the ocean. Reading his letter to Chris or so now now, I'm confusing. These guys I would say Ron probably be the best bet, you know, they seem like they have a friendly relationship except for the time that Braun tried to throw her under the bus in front of her face. But they have stuff stemming back all the way from one. They were throwing Joe under the bus right in front of Joe. And he did she did stick with the plan and voted along with Ron against Rick when he idled out Ron, so I guess that's the best thing. I can think of right now. Okay. All right. Let's go to another voicemail, and this is from one of our listeners Billy who has a question for Mike about Rick Devon's up. This is Billy and to city Iowa. And I just wanted to know if Rick Devin is a millennial. Thank what my congratulations by. Mike is Rick Devon's Molyneaux. Well, he does ruin everything. So. I think that's I think have to our second. Goodnight, folks. End the podcast right there. Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, the podcast is done. Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun Dun now. Where did this question? Go for what where's this out to do? Anything? Rick Devon's it's thirty three years old. Okay. Is he a millennial I suppose by the pure? I guess it goes back to millennials versus gen X attitude versus age being just a number. I guess he is how old was Mari Takahashi. I feel like she was around that range. Right. She sort of is on the teetering the Takahashi Ken line who's a millennial who's a genetics. And I guess, you know, he's doing crazy challenges like popping out and scaring people for the views and the laws of it. All he has his own at sea shop selling crazy trinkets, and Julie that's true. But doing an on island at least he's he's he's he's making entrepreneurial and starting his own on island venture like millennials. He's very woke in that. He literally wakes up in the middle of the night to find idols in trees. He does complain about the situation that he's in which he feels like other people might have screwed him into which millennials are want to do as well by the other generations. He does have a lot of social debt much like millennials have a lot of student debt. So the more we talk about this the more. I could see Rick Devon's as the biggest millennial since season thirty three proper Mari Takahashi was thirty one in millennials versus gen-x and that was now two and a half years ago. So that would make her the same ages. Rick Devon's okay? So I guess from an age perspective. He's he's right there. He's on the edge of distinction when it comes to an age gap. The interesting thing though, is Rick does not look thirty three. And that means no insult to him on. He's very happily married with children. But I don't know I in exactly thirty three year old books. Like, rob? Can I don't know if you've dispute this this is another sneaky, stinky thing, but he does not look like an thirty three-year-old millennial to me. Well, I think this maybe he carries himself as a. Mature news anchor that he is seemingly older that's true. If you if you considering the news climate we live in today, if you have certain pieces go across your desk every single day certain lines develop across your face. No matter how young you are the news will aid you. Okay. All right, Mike. Let's see some other questions that we have this is one from Curtiss on Twitter and wanted to hear Curtis's now that the season is wrapping up with Mike consider letting ream babysit his new son Asher. I mean, all the people do do not pull that mom card with me. I am not going to mum a bunch of babies. The furniture. JJ theirselves. I'm into this long distance raining. Yeah sport. This is what you can do in your backyard. Jeff. Yeah. So. You know, what I'll? Would you let Rian baby sit your children. Absolutely. She'll give best babysitter. Best babysitter from this season. Well, Rick's gonna play long will not play hide and seek with. I feel like she's off off the off the table. Ron is an educator. Ron is an educator about the kids out of the garbage fan. Yes. Exactly. But also, I fear if I live someplace if I live on Aurora lane that might trigger happy treated differently. And I don't know if my kids to be inflicted by any sort of dance fever, but at the end of it all hates word puzzles. That would not be good for. Yes. Drink kids. Yes. We are very jumble friendly here in the bloom. Household. We just haven't pasted up all over the walls. Let's see, Victoria. I feel like I don't trust. Nobody should trust her. And you said don't let slime into the household. So I don't I think we should promptly cut her off at the gate. Yes. So the toria no way. I think that she's like. You know, she acts. Nice. And then when I leave she throws a party in my house. My knee Wendy would open the door and let my dog out of the house. So I think table he stuck between peanut butter or jelly in terms of what to make him for a snack. And let's see war dog. No way. I mean, we're could at least give him a hat when it gets cold outside. Yeah. But but I feel like he'd be he'd be too out of control. Aubrey would just put too many weird ideas and my kids and make it think it's Halloween. Yes. Julie can make toys Julie can make toys, but you'll see Joey can also get very flighty. And just all of a sudden say she's jumping ship. Yeah. Exactly. And I crawl into my fire escape and just walk off my walk out of my apartment. Okay. All right. Rick could play dress up with the kids. He's the master of disguise. So Rick Rick could play dress up. But I don't wanna get Rick. Rick to psychologically intimidate, my children because I know that gives empower. Brings him joy. Child seem like the fugitive. Okay. All right. And no way Chris Underwood is going to be the Manny. No, listen, I've had problems with my own pants staying up. I don't want another. Factor invited into that house whole. Okay. All right. So we've settled on Rima I feel I could put some Kelly win worth in there as well. What David would be good to? I'd have him bring over his navy dis. And I feel like even though I think he'd also be want to cover his ears upon any loud noise. The produces. I think Joe angle might be the best. He's going to take them outside do arts and crafts paint the flag. It seems like a nice guy who never going to do anything sneaky even the what he tells himself, but he won't give them a bath. 'cause he wants them to be stinky. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mike. And I think this might be last question for you swaggie Jay wants to know interested to hear from ashes perspective. What are his thoughts on the season? So far not ideal coming into the season with only three episodes left. But I'm sure that he can share some unique insight. It is really the ultimate Casuals corner. Right. You bring someone literally into the world. Let alone the world of survivor with one episode left. And you get a failing to ask to what they might be doing. I mean, it looks like from the reactions I've been garnering Rick Devon's he's real glassy eyed towards Lauren, very glassy eyed. I think he peed just a little bit. When Julie was there. I believe he opened his mouth when he saw Gavin little bit of spittle came out when Ron was shown fist pumping just been due to these circumstances of us feeding him I will say maybe he was a bit triggered. He did crier little bit. When Jeff was salaciously talking about the spa award and everyone. Pigging out. So I think I have created a child that would definitely sit out a challenge for a shot at food. Okay. There you go. Mike anything else that you want to say about the survivor edge of extinction as we head towards the finale. All right, rob. Let's let's put him we made a couple of bets over the course of this podcast. Let's plant our flag and promptly raise it here. Who out of the what eleven people at the being next episode who in your opinion is coming back from the edge of extinction because I have a grand unifying theory about this that I'm sure be wrong about. Okay. I think it's going to be Aurora. Okay. So you think it's going to be the Aurora volving door. Yes. I could see that. Here's my thing. This letter segment was super weird, right? Still very strange that we have I guess Willard Smith survivor mailman stopped by to drop off some letters for everybody. But I think if you're looking at the extinction from an emotional perspective, it close things out in a variety of ways for a lot of contestants. My big theory is that anyone who read their letter on the edge of extinction. This past episode is not going to come back. Oh, I I think that represents for. I'm sorry. I know you built out a lot of patience there rebe, but you're going to have to step about a mile further and re out. Because fortunately, I think you're you're game might officially be done next episode. Okay. So that was closure in your mind. If they read the letter yet because I think that that's what people it's been talking with other characters as well. Because this really felt like a lot of people sort of reckoning back to what they wrote when they came in and saying, okay, I might not have gotten a million dollars might not have even given myself twenty dollars out of this experience. But you know, what this is sort of what I've emotionally reconciled and I don't need to win the game. I learned so much about myself. We saw that with people like Julia with Chris with Eric as well with David. Speaking of weddings, David might do something interesting with his girlfriend Lee considering says he wants to treat his relationship more maturely. So that makes me feel like that leaves other people sort of within Lipsius at the end of their story that complete. Whether it's an out the door in the finale or not and so who's left from that. So we have what we have war dog. We have Kelly went word, Ron Ron. And we have a Rura obviously coming back. I'm going to put my pin on Miskelly Wentworth. I think she's coming back Niki sneaky sneaky, stinky. It is. Yes, come back and win. I don't think. So. But I believe that. I don't know it just feels so weird that so much time was disproportionately focused on these returnees to have none of them in the finale would be absolutely bonkers. Granted this is an absolutely bunker season. But I just feel like it would hew closer to the themes of this season to have Kelly on there. Even if it's a short flash in the pan thing, you know, she knows about Lawrence idol, she can work with her for it. Maybe a lead to her just going right back out the door and into the jury, but I feel like spoke about. Of all the returnees. I think she also has the biggest unfinished potential. She was one who got blindsided with an idol in her pocket. So that's going to be my big bold prediction here. I think we see Kelly microwave back into the game. And I think we see a final three of Lauren, Julie and Rikki Tikki Tembo no-show Rambo char Pucci pip Perry Pombo as our winner of survivor edge of extinction. Okay. There you go. All right, Mike well done. I really appreciate you making so much time for us today. And they got a lot going on with the new baby. I mean, the pleasure was all mine. Rob I absolutely love to take a little detours from parenthood has been crazy so far, and it has been wonderful and so- eventful even in the week that has passed like not even imagine what is to come. But I will always relatives time to come on and talk with you. We're really writing audio letters to each other in real time. To a bunch of people who are BCC too. So I want to thank you for being my perennial pen pal for so many. Yes, hope everybody enjoyed all of our audio letters, of course, Mike Flood. Well, hopefully Aurora doesn't think they're too jumbled up that you'll hate them. Mike will be getting back to his regular audio lettering. Coming up soon. Mike, we'll you have time to get together for a brand steal this summer. Oh, absolutely. I actually have a proposal for you here. Honor of your last prolific feedback show guest. Rob how you feel in about survivor Zadie idle and Zadie island. Okay. Go on. So we're thinking let's take the original crop, which well, maybe we throw some shortlists in their contenders for the twenty twenty calendar depending on when that release drops. But let's see who the best Zadie of them all the mix. Let's put it into the mix. I don't know if I wanted to. All men survivor, and Lauren Rimmer addition of the brand steel. Yeah. I could see that. Let's put it in the war dog hat, and we'll picks out. And because we still have stands versus ops coming up on the Robin Kenyatta podcast. We also be on the lookout for that. Of course, we have what's what are we come up with on amazing race sprains versus prawn versus Pruitt ease. Yes. Yes. Maybe an amazing race. Brand steel could be the way to go. Also, maybe we should cast a another survivor versus big brother or I've never done a big brother brand steel. Also, that's another one potentially on the bucket list. Yeah. We'll see if the BBB is or not. But yeah, I would love to do that to simulate more survivors, and there will be real survivor seasons going on as well. As rob says shit engaged tonight. We are really revving down and reading back up like a wayward Vietnamese motorbike, the survivor engage. I know real Oregon cycles or donor cycles, if they were so Shannon gates, I'll be doing weekly coverage of survivor South Africa, which should be premiering the day after edge of extinction. So if you've got you're saying one more survivor, or you know, I'm so pumped up for that recent ending or I'm so down on then recent ending. There's more survivor for you to check out over the summer. And I actually believe the premier should be available on YouTube for free might be that might be some real Devin fake news. Don't hold me to that. You can check out. Shannon's cats breakdown with Leon Boris for the word on the street. Is that no matter what we've got those links in the rubs podcast patriot group. Absolutely. The island of not. That's what I'm here. Yeah. Not so secretive with the links to island of secrets, but she ended and I will be doing that. I'm really looking forward to talking more survivor as the season progresses. I will also be wrapping up the H P B and B as well. I'll make my return there with your friend and mine, Eric Stein will be making so. Great on the finale podcast for David versus Goliath. Yeah. And he was great with you a few weeks ago as well. So I'll be super excited to get his reception behind not only how the season finished. But I guess the online reaction as well, which has really changed much like the season has over the course of the past few weeks, as I'm sure we'll also preview what these survivors. Devil has in the works. Also big back covering rupaul drag race, but just had its own barrel of shenanigans. That's here. Don Thomas is writing up Donkey Kong style, I'll be doing that with Brent and Liana. And of course, rob you and myself and Jessica lease have been for two Disley covering this season of the amazing race, which has been so much fun. We're gonna be about like halfway through the season when we come back and a couple of weeks so lots of irons in the fire, but I'm feeling nice and toasty. All right. Great stuff, and we're so thankful to everybody who made it this far into the podcast Mike, did we have that hashtag ready to go? You mean? Nice pain pro. Nope. All right. That'll be hold on. Let's let me. Let me bring in Kelly win worth. Hell, no, all right Lindell, that one's just for you. That's it honor of your clean voicemail. All right. Well, we've got a couple of feet here. I got a scrabble gong. I've got a eyeteeth role. I've got a sneaky, stinky. Let's see. Gimme the gimme the scrabble gung. Yes. Cripple gong. Eriko scrabble is not getting the gong from the gong show. Meaning it is good and is going through. Okay. Of course. Thanks to the patrons Rob's podcasts. Make all of this nonsense this week possible. And the Mike bloom finale preview lived up to the billing be sure to follow what we'll be following the draft live in the rob is podcasts. Patron Facebook group. Rob has website dot com slash patron for everything that we're doing over. There are secret patron only podcast feed and everything all summer long. Rob has a website dot com slash patron. And also make sure you have your dial into the game of thrones episode five as well as the big bang theory. 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This Week in Survivor: Season 38 Week 3 with Megan Z

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This Week in Survivor: Season 38 Week 3 with Megan Z

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So when you're ready to experience better way to sell or trade in your car Jag out truecar today. Talk about. Take a quiz. So we can. Smartest one. Sarabhai? You've are. Yes. That is right. This week in survivor four week number three of the edge of extinction on my favorite new part of our HA AP. We've got a good one for you today. I let me bring in the man who is going to be putting together the this week in survivor history quiz for us that I please welcome in the gray Jordan Kayla ish. How how're you new part? I think that's that's limiting it to just this podcast. I don't know. Why do you have to ruin the moment ruining the moment? I think you're you could just get rid of the word new your favorite part. That'd be good. Look it's been a wild week. This is going to be another highlight. And they'll just take it and not not really break apart. The compliment you ruining the moment. Already in the beginning of this one, Jordan. I apologize. No apologies necessary. We're gonna have a lot of fun today. Because at one of my favorite guests here on the podcast is here with us. And my number one regret in podcasting. Is that I can't figure out a way to talk to this person more. Please welcome the great Megan Z. Megan. How are you? Hello twists this week and survivor and all through the tribe, the creatures were stirring, especially the chickens because Wendy wants to let those birds out. Yes. Meghan. How are you? I'm so good. How's everybody here doing? I think we're doing really, well it's been a wild week on the podcast Meghan now that why why won't you watch any other shows that we can podcast about. I I watch lots of other shows we'll figure it out. We'll figure something out for five years. I'm saying, let's let's figure out more shows to talk about. We'll we'll what's what's that show where people are running after each other on CBS, we can do that million dollar mile. Well, been tabulated has already requested that one so bad news for Tim tebow. That's that is gonna last one season with the tabulated onboard getting line for the next CBS show decay. All right, Meghan. So we're going to get into everything from the week and survivor prefers slow in the week in rob his podcast. A really really interesting week. In terms of the podcasting. Of course, we had these survivor know it alls than that. We had the first ever walk on cameo during a survivor note all's win Caitlyn Herman popped in. What did you think of that? I haven't seen Jesus surprise sense of Vitas showed up and said him, and we're going to be a tag team for the Mr.. Another real blindside. Then you we had the interview with Spencer, which I feel like has a unique place in the history of rob a podcast where really did not spend a lot of time talking about survivor that we really I started like an opened up the floor to Spencer to be able to talk about the issues that were sort of top of mind for him. What did you think of that, man? I think that Spencer's definitely going on a personal journey. And I think that they're probably that podcast wasn't for everybody. But there's probably a couple of people out there that the information he had to give really could help them and do some self exploration. And know that there's not one solution for everybody and mental health is really important. So I think it definitely holds a special place in our JP history. As you said, did you think that Spencer sounds a lot like Jordan Kayla? It wasn't Jordan jail. I don't think you guys sound that much like anymore, Jordan. Yeah. I mean, I never I mean, I've heard it before like I've heard him talking videos, and I kinda here in my head that it sort of sounds like me, but I never thought it was as close as some people on Twitter back in the day. Who thought either Jordan Kayla was an alias for spot for Spencer Bledsoe guy? Then had the podcast with Jonny fairplay this week. And I it was a real throwback where nine years ago. Johnny fairplay was the first-ever guests on this podcast and he's still coming back. Yeah. Now only the big decision is what shirt do I get to like it the Robin Russell. And now that it's a dicta- Nado shirt. You know, there's a lot going on. I need to think about. Merchandising decisions in my future a lot of merchandising decisions. Okay. But Megan let's get into talking about the edge of extinction. And I want to hear from you. So far three hours into this season. A wh what's your opinion on edge of extinction? I'm not mad yet. Okay. Not mad. It's there's the tunnel to be mad. But I'm not mad yet. I liked that everything we've done so far has been different. So we had remote there. Then we had the whole heath shoop it shuffle. Go to the right while I go to the left and then last week we had our stare adventure. I liked that. They're doing different stuff every time with it. And I hope that pattern continues. Okay. Chris gets unceremoniously booted from the show. Did you have an opinion on Chris? He seemed like the strong silent type. He did a good job in some of the challenges other than that wasn't a huge character. From my perspective. Maybe wasn't the best game moved to take him out. But I. Think from a character characters perspective. I'm okay that he's on. He's on the edge now on the gym. We'll have to see if there's more to his story coming up the big story, though, I feel like in terms of the character moments on the show has to be this issue with big Wendy and the chickens where where did you come down in chicken gate dam? I'm not I'm not quite ready to say know, little Queen big, Wendy. She's my Queen. And I love her forever. But I did feel bad for Wendy when they're like, Wendy. We're going to sit you over here by this tree. And we're going to go talk about seven inches to the right of you without shoe. I thought that was a harsh moment for for Wendy. I thought it was an interesting thing to see play out. I was kind of excited to see her take the Flint and run with it. Did you feel like that? She was SIA motivated were you one of the people that came down in that camp, Meghan? It was the first thing that crossed my mind. She's going for that. If she thought listen, I'm going to be the, you know, the third boot, I'm going home. I can bump up that prize money by ten thousand dollars. Now, we know it's more than that. She's like, you know, what why not become an animal activists, go hard for it. And you know, she doesn't even need to let the chickens at all. You need is like two or three really solid confessionals. And then one kind of. A desperate attempt towards a spirit guide. Rick to ask him if he'll stump for her. So I could see that. He's she's going for the Sihamoni. No, big, Wendy. And we'll talk about the Sudanese social media has categorically denied that. That's what she was looking for. But I do think that it would be very smart play on her part to do that. I mean, I'm not super familiar with what the current fries money payout is. But I think that fourteen thousand dollars is probably pretty close to what a third boot would ultimately take away from the survivor experience. So not a bad play to double up. I love the mega. I love the moment so much when she was revealed as the person who took the Flint here. Here's that moment. From the episode. To save her chicken. Now, I'll be psychotic. I took there. Where is the flinch right now is it on Wendy? Did she keep it in her person? Or did. She just toss it violently someplace else. Well, I feel that Kelly win worth had to have been having flashbacks to San Juan del sur from when the who Nabu camp had lost their Flint, and they needed to have a negotiation. Yeah. And I don't know they didn't get to see Angelinos negotiation. So hopefully Kelly has taken both negotiations one and negotiations, which we know are required for a full full-fledged negotiation deal. Do you think Kelly win worth was having flashbacks? No, I think she was I was more in love with the monitor's. Very terrible man strategy when they are trying to pump Rick up to go talk to Wendy and all the bad advice. They were giving him. What was your favorite part of that? So it kind of reminded me of when Papa bear was giving. Do pitch women. You know, I think it was the rub your hands together. Listen to me. Okay. This is how I think I might have been from the bonus episode. I feel like the last time they did a recaps. No. I think you're right. I think it is in the in the clip show, but an eye Joe. Nice kid. Listen to me, I'm gonna teach you how to pick up women. Okay. But I mean, they were like David and Rick were standing there and David was like, all right. I'm going to go up to her. And I say, how are you? Like really talking through about what they're gonna do and Kelly and Laura and we're just like just go up her and be like, hey, girl. Hey. Couldn't figure out how to even go up to her and start talking to her as a person. What is the right move? I had a survivor history flashback on the scene. Also actually thought of fans versus favorites. When the the women were trying to convince Natalie Bolton to go up to Eric to give away the idle and that one worked so I think maybe they were a little bit successful there. But yeah, I guess a very funny survivor when you had the whole group trying to convince one person to talk to say something someone else. Megan. What is the right move to? How do you approach Wendy in that situation? I think you just say, hey, Wendy. We noticed you kinda ran off. Did you happen to take the Flint with you? When you ran there. And then she's going to say, no. And what would what do you think? What's the right move? You think you tickle her? Yeah. I don't know you the thing was that like David Wright was like I don't care about the chickens. It doesn't matter to me. I wonder what I Kelly went worth. So I'm not even so they probably should have sent somebody who was more invested in the actual outcome of that was the main problem that they send somebody who really was kind of embitterment about whether or not they actually ate the chickens. Yeah. War dogwood. It went full interrogation possibly on her. It may have been like kind of like a use it on this side. I'll sit on this side. Let me look deep in the is peer into your soul. And see if I can get this answer out of you. You're right though, David asked you questions like do you take the Flint Wendy's like, Nope. He's like interesting. All right on to new business wars oak was so mad about the epoxy of Wendy. He he he could not get over the fact that she she eats meat at home, but got on survivor, and then didn't want to eat this chicken. The minute. You have one piece of meat in your building to still talk to loss. Araca? She's even lost her rocker, Meghan. I think that's what happened on Twitter. That's why he's not talking to anybody. Again. I I gotta say he probably went he went to hard there. I mean, if you're if you're on the island, you probably just want to say that in a confessional not right to her. But I kind of see what his point is. I mean, if she's not a vegetarian if she does eat meat is a little bit hypocritical, and it isn't very good play on Wendy's part to go against what the whole tribe wants to do. However, it was great TV, and I'm happy it happened. Yeah. I think everybody can see wore dogs point here that I don't think it's too hard to wrap your head around about why this would be frustrating. But I think that the question is ultimately, you know, how it was dealt with in terms of, you know, having one person in the group who doesn't want to do, and we see this magazine a bunch of different survivor seasons with his there's one person in the group that really wants to stick their neck out for the chicken and doesn't want the chickens to be eaten. Unfortunately, unlike can be and Berg, Wendy, couldn't go and walk down the beach when everything went down because she couldn't move. She would have to sit there and watch everything. Do you think that Wendy as sort of like the sitting duck proverbially of felt some Connecticut into the chickens? Yeah. Where there was some sort of like ET Elliott relationship between her and the chickens where the chickens were sort of like lined up for slaughter. She's the next one to be voted out by this group. Does she have some sort of like common bond with the chickens that could definitely be there guy? Can I step back and rewind for a second? Can we talk about? And I know you have your segment with Josh about things nobody is talking about. But I'm going to swipe it for a quick second. Are they're always red satin sheets over all of the reward items was so odd that there were red set and sheets on everything. I like to imagine that's what Jeff drope sleeps on on. And he brought his own sheets there. But hey, I just needed to get that out there because it was very distracting to me that there are red set and sheets over all of their wards. So we will be looking for that going forward. But yeah. I think when you could definitely see herself and think, hey, these are people are trapped their chickens, I feel trapped right now, not only in my body because my ankles hurt, but also in a relationship standpoint, I definitely can draw the similarities I'm having this vision. Now, just Wigley listening to this podcast and Saint damaging Z and having a cross that point on this list. I think you're good. Joshua's paying too much attention to the coverings for any of the reward challenges. I've never heard any talk about that. We'll see if he has to take something off his list. But by the fact that you were talking about it, then that's not something that nobody's talking about. That's true. Very true. Yeah. So I think that Wendy is she was in tight with ream. And with Keith then that may be the place for her might be on extinction island. I she's not going to disagree with the stairs. I don't think. But it seems like these are people there Meghan. Do you think that ultimately, Wendy, my fit in better if she gets to extinction island that definitely could be the case? I. Ever since I saw Elizabeth fuller, skis hair fall out. I don't need to see people suffering anymore. Unlike Tyler Perry, I also don't need to see people in their draws starving. I'm okay with it. So I'd be alright if extinction island became like a little bit more of like, there's a little bit of joy there of like, hey, we're these misfits that we kinda get along. And I'd like to see them has more different types of tasks to do. Maybe some fools Ahrends. Maybe there's like one big puzzle. They had to solve you know, all season long just things to kind of keep a move it. And keep them going over there you'd like to see be more like some sort of a medium place. Yes. A medium place. Not the good place. Not the bad the medium place road. It's not great. It's great. It's weird. It's very it's very, okay. It's very it's very okay here in the medium place island. And I also think I agree with an I know bunch of people of brought this up. Why can't we get a CBS all access fifteen minutes of extra extinction island footage of them kind of waltzing around. And if they have these other things going on. Yeah, I'd be okay with that. Maybe give them like some botchy ball. I I don't think we need to see him lay around in the son dying all day. That's a really great point where they are always trying to push this CBS all access Jordan where why not say like at the end of the episode like to see more about what was going on at extinction island go and visit CBS all access. I definitely agree with that. I mean, I even thought when we were watching this past episode when they're doing the whole trek up the stairs. I mean, you have you have removes very interesting. And you know, now now Keith is is with her as well. But this really really. Needs to be in the episode where we could have spent more time at the two camps navy getting some more character scenes, maybe talking a little bit more strategy. And yeah, I want less on extinction island. I either less or maybe something that's a little bit more interesting. I mean, if you have two players talking about what they might do when they get into the game. I think that would be something that we would be more interested in. But if they released a segment on CBS, I'll access like you were just saying, even if it was, you know, even if it was just them hanging out or them looking for rice. I think that would be something that that I would watch I would just prefer prefer to see more of the actual game on the show. Meghan, are you with Jordan, or are you against him that you would you like to see less from extinction island? I think it depends on if it's going to be the same thing every week because they've changed it up so far week after week. I'm okay seeing it. But if everybody's just going to climb up the stairs. We kept. It's like, okay. Let's move on. Also, if this is taking away from time, I'm getting to learn about Ron then we need to focus on that. Also because we are criminally under showing Ron and we need to dive on stem. I mean, not yet. But it could be there. If I saw little about him. I like the he's just really prolific educator. But also this kind of like nasty guy on the island who likes to dance it up and says, he's been drinks things. He is a prolific educator myself. I liked checked that he's on the show. Tell me more about your your standing of Ron I've okay? So as somebody that did see the Ron Clark TBS move many years ago Bs movie, I don't know if it's TBS where you watched it on TBS. I watched it on TBS, and I also a couple of days ago found the VHS recording of it that I still have. Wow. Oh, yeah. So I do remember Ron Clark. If you idea that you were too big Ron Clark fan. I didn't remember I was until somebody brought up that he was going to be on forever. And I was like, oh, look that guy. And then I happened to be looking through my VHS tapes a couple of days ago. Getting ready to deal legacy box legacy box dot com slash rob you, and I was like there's a VA just recording amongst a bunch of Conan O'Brien videos was on Clarkson's legacy box. We'll boot. Leg your views movies. No, I don't I don't know that I was looking for home movies. And it was it was a bunch of home movies. The Ron Clark story, and then a bunch of compilation clips of the late night with Conan O'Brien. So making were you just like a big Matthew Perry fan is that how you stumbled into the Ron Clark story. I have no idea why I watched it. Why I recorded it? And I know I've seen it more than once. But I think the thing we need to be looking out for his Ron Clark writes, his own wraps those need to be in the wand up somehow people need to be parodying. Ron Clark wraps also raps about the president's and things like that. Oh. In the movie. It was it's the president's rap. Right. All right. Okay. Okay. But I have no idea if that's what the real Ron Clark song goes sewing run Clark is like some sort of a predecessor to lin-manuel Miranda pretty pretty much. He'd that's now this you had Matthew berry, and he was doing this rap and he's trying to relate to the students. So he would come up with raps about things like the president's there. Also was a scene where he was chugging the lot of milk too. I remember. Why was he chugging so much milk? I think now you're really making me Dickey in the archives here. I think the eating ghost pepper. No. You didn't. Okay. So I think he had a bunch of, you know, those little like milk cartons that you have in school lunches, he had a bunch of them lined up, and he was going to like he was gonna chug one every minute. And then the students had to do something the time in between. It was all these different things to engage the students and make them part of the classroom. And you know at the end of the day. Everybody was happy and did. Well, I don't remember a lot about the milk seen. But I do remember he was chugging a bunch of milk. Maybe Ron Clark can way. And if that was something that Matthew berry decided was an important part of the scripture was actually from. Where the teacher like made the kid eat the whole chocolate cake because I was horrible. I don't think Ryan Clark's would do that. No. In this case. It was the teacher that was doing it isn't that upsetting a bad example that these kids are going to go home and start chugging all this milk. I don't know. I think you'll be okay. I haven't heard any cases of milk overdose. In the time since the Ron Clark story. I ran it's good making. I wanna talk about something else from the episode back on extinction island where we had the cliffhanger where it was undetermined. Whether or not Keith was going to be there. And then we opened up with Keith showing up on the boat and Reema was happy to see him. Although I have faith thin ream is not really a that. Comforting of the players that show up at extinction island that I was talking Shannon Gateshead. Mentioned that she's sort of like some sort of like WalMart greeter after the extinction island gate where you show up here. Some things Keith had some questions about extinction island and really had some answers that were not comforting that Keith talked about how he wanted to just go to sleep definitely want to be. Just laughed and say, you're probably gonna die out there. That's what's going to happen. Yeah. This was when Keith Keith showed up. It's rough out here. I'm straight up really rough out. This is this is why is great because she says, whatever she's thinking, she's not going to sugarcoat anything. She doesn't show coat. Make it's a little bit like showing up like your first night in Shawshank Reeve is gonna like. Is not going to be honest. Here is not good. You're not gonna like it or their people taking vets on who's gonna cry who's going to cry. I during the night on on on edge of extinct. I don't know. I don't know if anybody has that in their the producers comes it comes in and starts like beating the crap out of them. That would really be. I I don't know if anybody has a Randy new poll up to have a draft of who's I decry on extinction is spoil the I like, fifteen minutes of The Shawshank Redemption. I think you're gonna you're good. Meghan. Also, Keith is wandering he'd like something to eat here at extinction island. Definitely. Chris you think it's going to be good here. What are you? Crazy nuts. You're crazy nothing here. There's like a stairway forty five minutes up like, no rice. You're you're screwed. Everest out here. It's going to be at all awkward between between Chris. And Keith being that like Chris promised him that he wasn't gonna vote them out. Or do you think so sort of like what are under the bridge at this point? I think you'll be okay. I don't think that it wasn't one vote that Keith got knocked out by. So I think that they'll be any animosity Meghan. Do you think that that church? Boy, sixteen won't be forgiving trysts. No, I think everything will be fine. I think they've got bigger fish to fry out there except actually issue. Here. What are you crazy? Fish quick, the fishing gear. We got coconut and stairs. But I like that every week it kind of adds something out like last week. They just had a coconut this week's coconut and stares. Maybe next week. You'll be coconut stairs and their Bochy. The list just keeps on adding of things that they have out there show. This could be all access. Meghan. Do you have any theories about why that they were giving identical bottles and maps? And of course, rooms like she's looking at it. She's like mast. Anything there? No steps. I'm joy. I don't know why you're hating on extinction island. I to. Just I mean, I guess like I'm somewhat of a of a. I'm not even that much of a purist. But I do want to see more of like what's going on? I feel like we don't even know the comet tribe, and I know they haven't gone to tribal council yet. And I'm sure with the swamp this week, we're going to find out more about a lot of those people. But I just feel like that scene of them walking up the stairs. I think that could have been in a confessional Rian could have said like. Oh, yeah. We found some stairs. And we got some rise. You see the stairs like a quick pot away. But you really need to see them walking up. A whole flight of stairs to get to get some REIs. I think that could have been time spent some somewhere else, and again, if there's two people fighting on the edge of extinction or two people talking about potential tragedy when they get back into the game. That's more interesting. But then just like hiking is not that you're being such a stickler. It was like four minutes. Extinction island really is no different than when you had to watch. The Angkor bulit has a desolate island zero confessionals. You could have gotten the Julia confessional. Look to all of the people from the from the from the comet tribe that have been under edited that all I can say is have patience getting the layers on a season with four returning players, and you are gonna try that didn't go to any tribal councils in end, you're pretty much all in the same boat. So just have some patients more people will go, and you know, this is a weird season extinction islands. So just hanging there. Look, the the less time that let's airtime you have the means you're probably not getting voted out either. So just just hanging there all the all the new players are we gonna get to appoint survivor where we're tribes throwing challenges to get more airtime. Into the intentional Minu. People are letting rewards out for SIA money throwing challenges for airtime. It's a strange new world, Meghan. It is I think I like it. Maybe I don't know. Like, I said there's room to get mad, but I'm not mad today. All right. Let's start to move into another busy week in survivor social media. The survivor social media in season thirty eight edge of extinction has been lit, and let's get into everything going on here. Yes. Get it. Here is a intro from Jacob Sager white team baby tweets. Better than if you fire anti hey seen the word missing from that last line. Oh, thank you. Thank you Jakup. Okay. All right. Why don't we pick things up with talking about the Flint gate, and let's let's check in with what big Wendy has to say about all of this. Because I think that Wendy was getting a lot of lack on Twitter. People were also standing Wendy on Twitter. So big Wendy coming off of this episode. The other night she tweeted out at big Wendy, six Wendy. You're not even trying to get along. It was never mean not wanting to be part of my tribe. It was always me being pushed away happy. I get to share with you the absolute bully mentality. I had to deal with it's not the edit that makes villains Meghan. Did you have a chance to watch this secret seen that Wendy was tweeting out? Oh, I didn't know. All right. Let me loop on this. Me play this. But we're going to hear from some of the money tribe. Members about their perspective on the chickens, and what should be done. And then we're also going to hear from David Wright in this scene. Here we go. We can get you better. So Wendy is limping. Saying it's so dramatic. Dog is copying. When these limb. Getting very upset with my tribe because it's like more people were human beings. We're supposed to be in this together and suddenly Wendy inches or foot. And it's like the tiger like an injured gazelle suddenly just like calm down. Everybody. Like, she's a part of the tried to make her feel comfortable rather than making fun of her. I was like the week guy at school and people make fun of me, and it triggers me to see these adults turning into middle school children rather than like express like any compassionate humanity for tried mate who is suffering trial. Thirty people are pointing out Wendy's injury rather than helping her because she could be an easy vote. But that is not my tension. I'm going to stink. That wasn't even dealing with the chickens that was just making fun of her limp with the ankle. I know I know they're brutal. I was very proud of Wendy. She did a great job in the immunity challenge. I was concerned. Like, okay. What are we going to have Wendy do houses gonna work out? She did a great job and the challenge and really they haven't showed her doing anything else that Cam saying that she's not pulling her own weight or doing anything else. So, you know, it's kind of a bummer to see that scene. Here that scene NC that the tribe, really. Isn't giving her kind of basic humanity that you'd love to know that everyone's getting out there. She also is adamant about how the somebody tweeted give this girl. A check at CEA and Wendy said, no, this is something I want to dress. I didn't do any of this for the money. I voted with my friend because it was the correcting to do, and I saved a small life because I thought it was the correct thing to do agree with me or not I seek adventure. Not money nor at rations, so Meghan should Wendy come out and renounce and recuse herself from consideration for any SIA money. No. It wasn't for the money, then you should recuse. This makes her look even more humble, this is this is she's in a better spot now for the money, you go Wendy, check, Jordan does big Wendy meet to come out and say that she will not accept to. She is not she is not seeking or nor will she accept any money. I think what she has done is played this perfectly. I do not think she should recuse yourself from the money because it's fourteen thousand dollars, and if she is going to give for fourteen thousand dollars, she should get that money. I also think that like make it said the way that she answered the question makes her seem humble, I don't think she should talk about the money ever again. She shouldn't deny the money. She shouldn't ask for the money. She should do exactly what she's doing which is saving chickens and and being humble on Twitter until get the money. And look I think as a game move what she's doing is not great. But for the money, she's doing the right thing. And for the edit she's doing the right thing. Yeah. And for a all-stars appearance. She's killing it. Yes. For sure. Mega. And then she says another tweet to sum summit up number one. I've been a vegetarian for the last three months. Oh, I'm not playing the victim. Certainly don't think I'm a hero. And number three. I will gladly take the title hypocrite. If it means I got to save three lives and can't let's insects comparable Bush's, saving the insects too. You know, that's that's a heavy cross to bear saving all the insects out in the jungle. But she save the insects. Maybe she stayed in one spot. So she didn't roll over and roll over on any of them will vote the dishes, eat more insects. That's what I was thinking. I don't know. This is a real now Sophie's choice of what's more important the life of one chicken or the countless like grubs that it would be. My guess is that I think maybe there was something. We didn't see on the show maybe people on our tribe were eating bugs. And she wasn't. She wasn't doing that either. But yeah, you would think that the chickens the chickens eat the bug. So if you're saving the chickens. This isn't great for the bugs bugs are probably very anti big Wendy. Does. This mean, Wendy isn't going to make it to the gross food eating challenge. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, going back to cap and Berg wasn't that famously that she wouldn't eat one. Like there was like a tapeworm like she didn't want to eat because it was a living thing. But then she ultimately did it that would like she she she ate the worms. She didn't eat the cows brain. I think is what came up. Okay. So that was okay because she was jumping up. Yeah. I can eat a worm. I can eat a worm. So big Wendy is even more of a animal lover than cap. And Berg was sounds like it a lot of people were asking for Kimmy cap and Berg back on the podcast. It was only been two weeks since I talked to her but people wanted a -mergency Kimmy cap emberg coverage Chemi cabin Berg did way in all about the chicken gate. Two point. Oh, hash tag free. The chickens hashtag survivor of extinction. The chickens have never made it on survivor yet. Hash tag, free the chickens. I do need to come back at hashtag. Kimmy my reaction to who voted off survivor tonight. Hashtag survivor edge of extinctions at Jeff pro hashtag. Feed the chickens with a gif of Kimmy shocked. I think if we had a roundtable here of Kimmy cap invert tie, and like Angelina, the great survivor vegetarians that would really be a great way to cover the the whole controversy from this. Angelina a thirty on chickens Meghan, which will be on the chicken roundtable Jimmy have Shambo on the chicken panel. Like, nominate people for the okay? So the great chicken summit of do. We do we need to have a voice that is pro eating the chickens like do we need war dog there? Any other great chicken eaters? Chicken there Clarence famously will wanted to eat all the chickens. Yeah. I think we could fill out a round table here. Callaway could be on there. Yeah. So we did a whole chicken panel of all the people for and against the chickens, chickens, always bring the drama, Meghan. Yeah. I mean, we're back to chickens for a while we were about eating goats. But now are back to classic survivor in a lot of ways. People say, you know, survivors changed so much, but we're back to eating chickens. Just like we've been all along. Okay. Mark the chicken certainly needs to be there. I keep what we haven't done a podcast with Mike bloom about the greatest chicken moments. We did do one about animals. I think Mark the chicken was ranked number one greatest survivor non-playing character in the history of survivor share it. Listen Totta, the bushman. I think he was up there. It was a weird podcast people and also animals if that podcast been in the age of brand steel, that's would have been a brand steal. It could've been. Maybe maybe it might be one day. Okay. Meghan. Were you pumped up that Aubrey found the idol of this week? I was it was a nice. It was a sweet moment. You know? I loved not to bring up king Papa bear twice in one podcast. But I love the full sprint into the jungle to try to find the idol. It was a really nice and sweet moment. She said she was proud of herself. It was it was a good good time. So congratulations to Opry. Rocco? She did tweet to kneel. God leap. I didn't need yours. I found my own. So this is the Aubrey Brocco is like a continuing storylines from all these different seasons. Yeah. This coleslaw. It's all coming together. It's all coming together. Aubrey also was giving credit to tie on social media that she was saying that that Ty had given her like the power to find these idols. Oh, I did not see that the power like like like they're communicating with each other on the phone. The coconut phone the blackberry out there. She got a tweet from tie who said, congratulations at Aubrey. Oh, great jobs. So proud of you, not easy to sneak away and to look and tough to find an idol, hashtag survivor. I love seeing you looking on Koa wrong and on game changers. And Aubrey said I love you literally sit out allowed the whole time where would tie go right now. Oh, that's fantastic. That she also man what a dig to Russell that. She chose tie as her ADL searching and not Russell. Well, she has no connection with Russell, right. Ty did play an idol on her. And that she got tied to not play super idol on Scot Pollard. So they have been connected with idols in the past tie said. So glad you heard me. I was sweet whispering in your years in Chinese and sometimes in Vietnamese too. Oh, she says I did hear you. Wow. Really great episode for she goes from from being at the bottom of the tribe to now going into a swap with an idol where maybe she could turn on some of those people that were clearly not gonna work with her. It's only if Tai must have felt disturbance in the force with the chickens potentially suffering too that he must've been going through a very emotional experience during the filming of the season Meccan. Yeah. Maybe Mark the human was like, oh, I'm feeling pain right now. There must be chickens out there that are tight is Taya ward to ward into one of the chickens and like before mono one them. It was just like in the crate whispering things to Audrey in chicken language, that only Aubrey can understand probably I think. It's the only thing that makes sense feeling that makes us Megan reforming the drama this week of survivors versus war dog. I was following a little bit of it. I will I would also like to put my stamp on this. If people wouldn't have told me that Wardag looks and sounds like, Tony, I would've never piece them together as two people that were similar. I don't think he looks like or sounds like Tony I said, you know for a while. And I think he looks more like ace, and this is probably just some general baldness that were trying to classify everyone exactly the same thing. We're bald profiling people that all bald people look the same. I think so I think this is a case of them. That's not the that's not the case better. Better. People all bald people don't look the same. All right. So I'm not sure exactly where this came up. I believe it was that that Gabby. She had a tweet where she was talking about how she was muting certain survivors. And then that got turned into that. She was Bach by the war dog. She got blocked by Dr more dog dog got rolling from there. Didn't it yet baller bald? Yeah. And then we had then Hannah also very quickly then blocked by war dog as well. This week Hannah had a tweet that said dearest war dog had a lovely time. Joking on my birthday giggled at your bio, and I love dogs could have grown old together. Been those old people in the notebook Titanic assured the raft. Hashtag survivor sorry for whatever. I did. Hope we can one day men this broken torch Exo Exo with a broken heart Hannah to blocked by the war dog on Twitter. And then the word auto Wendell was piling on. And that he was feuding with the war dog this week called him. The war pop on Twitter Meghan, have we seen any survivor on a blocking frenzy like this since the days of Troy Zan on the game changes where he just went. Down his Twitter feed and hit that block button like. I don't think. So I also don't think anybody has ever had people want to get them block. So we saw Andrea Belka said she was trying to get block. So she could be part of the girl gang with other, ladies and Chrissy Hof Beck. I think was also in there. So now, unfortunately for word, August become a thing of people wanting to get blocked by him almost say sign of you know, a badge of honor that they've been shut down by him. Wow. So this is a thing. So you're not anybody until war dog blocks, you I mean, are you blocked by Wardag? No. I don't wanna be blogging my word. I I don't I don't like that. When the survivors blocked me. I don't wanna be blocked. Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't know if there's any way for word ought to come back from this from his social media stance. It's really tricky. Once you've put yourself in this big ball of craziness too slowly back away shades of the rooster. You know, many seasons ago kind of going big and strong at the beginning of the season. It's tough for war dog to back down from this. Now. Speaking of Hatta, she had a really funny tweet during the episode when she tweeted all caps. Wendy don't release the chickens war dogs will block you. Why do you think she's calling him more dogs in the plural? Isn't that millennial talk Jordan? I look one thing that I learned from the millennial podcast you did with filthy. I have not a good millennial because I did not know much of that stuff. And when I look at my my interest, none of them really line up with the classic millennial interests. I don't know is that millennial putting an S at the end. I think things that are employers is millennial. I don't know. I don't know. I think maybe I would've put a z. That would be nice. Let's make did you follow these survivors Instagram takeover? I didn't see the full takeover. I saw a couple clips from it on the side. But. Over it was wild, Jordan. Do you follow the survivor Instagram? I follow the account, but I didn't see who took it over. So this week. It was Abby Maria did a takeover. I believe she is might be the first to time survivor, Instagram, takeovers. I'm pretty sure she did it last season two. And she had it seems like that's the thing when you have the Instagram takeover that you invite people to to your house or to hang out with you looks like you have a lot going on during the episode and so happy Maria she had net. Ten Natalie ten Ereli in Julie berry over the house wasn't a lot of game talk. Wasn't a lot of breaking down the episode. But I can tell you that it was a real lot of torquing going on. Oh, yeah. They still can rock those buffs and put them to good use. They were wearing them rocket. They looked fantastic. It was there's still some clips of it on the CBS Instagram. If you missed the full story. Yeah. You can slide those dots. And seeing Jake in it. It was just a real surprising amount of twerk ING being put out on on Instagram, Meghan. I wasn't puts what any of this had to do with survivor. Well, you know, they got some awesome evolved co or whatever the. And they made it they made it a huge party. It was a it was a wild night of of tweaking over at happy Maria south. Yeah. Definitely very different than when Mike Zaluski and Jesse Camacho took over the. If somebody would have given Dr Mike the idea to twerk on the Instagram takeover. I do think that he probably would've gone through it. I think not. I think very shocking that with with Abby and a ten there though, it wasn't completely focused on strategy talking talking. So yeah, I don't know why they didn't have a whole roundtable. They're breaking down the episode like when Stephen fishbach took over the Instagram. But what are you? What are you gonna do? Let's see also from this week. Ron Clark was your favorite Negga. And there was an exchange between Ron Clark and person on Twitter named Julie who said season thirty eight of survivor would be better. If one of the returning players was Russell hats, and Ron Clark responded, f r f r what does that mean, Meghan? As our s are, I don't know. I didn't take the clapback class at the Ron Clark academy rumbling groins clapback that he did you see less week where he got into it with Andrea and Aubrey where Andrea was like, hey, great fake dancing, Aubrey that was so funny in Ron Clark clapback jealous. Much to Andrea. He's got a punch to. Yeah. Don't mess with Ron on Twitter. And so then somebody said, well, the could be more targets. He said more more targets the better. And so this turned into a whole thing of would Ron have worked with Ron Clark. And then somebody put a picture of Russell his face on top of Ron Clark dancing, but Ron Ron Clark wanted to know. Would you have danced with me? Russell Russell had said, no, sir. I wouldn't have. Russell's not going dance with Ron Clark either. It's really amazing. Because Russell does have a history on survivor of fitting in socially with the tribes that he's been on. Yes. Well. Well, all right. So so many of the survivors were piling on Wendy for the Siyam money. Andrea said, Wendy isn't even vegetarian. This is definitely a se- apply. Think every single survivor tweet it out how this was just a ploy for the money, Meghan. Yeah. It's kind of the new oh my gosh. It's so much easier than when I play like an easy thing. Everybody can grasp onto him be like things people places. Wendy jump on. Brenton Lebel that this is interesting because going forward, we will never know if the survivors love for the chickens or if they actually have love for see as money. Prell will be our guests on the feedback show next week. So we can only hope that there will be Fiji pizza reward coming up on next week's episode. We maybe we know as I what was the thing that Ron Clarkson was F R. I F E never mind gone feed. You. We keep that in. Very nicely. Then Andrea said wait, why did we vote out the hot harmless guy for no reason this season is confusing? A lot of the survivors were disappointed to see Chris go out Megan. Yeah. Andrea never did that with Matt Elrod? Bryce said just wondering if at c Underwood thirty seven knows how much of a hash tag team Underwood. I am trust me. Third out ain't so bad so price trying to extend an olive branch to Chris Underwood under the wood. Okay. All right. I'm gonna calendar. Meghan. Reserve a spot for the Zadie calendar coming up also Kelly Woolworth clapping back a little bit on people on Twitter as well. There was this guy just in on Twitter who says can't help but think production helped at Kelly went worth not get voted out yet. Again, seems to be the case every time we have returning players. Kelly re tweeted the guy and said, well, this is cute. Is that the move? Megan. You wanna like I mean that guy did tag her in his post? I think she's got the right to respond. Everyone knows you're not supposed to tag a minute come on. We can do better once again with this. We can do we can do better. I don't know if we can do much better than this though. Now, if if he tweeted that about Joe would have been acceptable because that's just like, a constant, you know, theme going on Joe's Jakko anywhere. That's a constant. Okay. I do have something else that at one point was a constant, but now less so we'd speed tweets Rupert to better than something that happened on survivor Rupert tweets. Yes, meghan. Oh. And this has been a super size social media segment this week, I told you there was a lot going on. But this week Rupert was back on Twitter now as longtime listeners know Rupert bone. Is locked out of his Twitter account. Can't get back on does not remember the password and Twitter will not help him with with opening this backup. But Rupert was back. Live tweeting the episode for the first time in season thirty eight. So we do have a round of the Rupert tweets game. Where I am going to read you three tweets that were written by Rupert bone ham and then posted to the at Rupert's kids Twitter account, which you can follow Rupert whenever he's tweeting. And then one of these tweets is going to be from Alexis Maxwell, and it's going to be your job to tell us, which one is the Alexis Maxwell tweet, not the real Rupert bone ham. Tweet meghan. Okay. All right. What's that at roots? Kids. It's Rupert's kids know cheating. No. I'm not like all right. I will award. You a lifeline that you can you can ask d- school ish for his opinion. If you want it. Okay, only if I want it. All right, one kind. All right here, we go tweet number one voting off one of the strongest players is a great way to keep losing number one. Yes. Okay. Number two things. Don't just disappear on survivor. That's an old evil. Russell trick. He would hide stuff feels very rupee. Number three puzzles are killer. They are the equalizer in challenges hashtag survivor. Number four why go on survivor? I just don't understand. Okay. And we're sure none of these are by the Rupe Bhatt. No, no, none of these are my group. I mean, the robot is out of control is like tweeting artificial intelligence Rupert that was created by our listeners, and this is how to control Rupert Bhatt is saying things that. When my wife, and I were newlywed she got a whole ball of my white shirts white tank communities that I used to wear during work. Rupert has any white tanks, and it gets all tie-dyed tank. So no, it's definitely the route Bhatt and not the real Rupert blocked by Wardag yet. Not yet. Even Rupert's kids are. Although he did say war dog shouldn't have given. Joe her tooth back. So. Also tweet to do we want to take war dog out of the game? He might be it might be. Well, he might be referring to at war dog on Twitter. The fun if the robot started tweeting the fake. Now, he's a real war dog on Twitter dot. Yeah. Yeah. Real word refers to the person on Twitter that we talked about on last week's show with then at war dog actually listened to the podcast and turned out to be much better sport on social media than the the survivor war dog is turning out to be. Yeah. This is a very pro any any war dog pot podcasts at war dog at the real war. Doug, I think the war dogs are really bringing it this season. Okay. Meghan. Do you know, which of these tweets is an Alexis Maxwell tweet this week? I'm just gonna take a shot and go with a hey voting off one of your players is a great way to keep losing. That's your final answer. Sure. All right. Lock it in Jordan. You think she has it or? No, I think that I think it's d which was d- again why go on survivor. I just don't understand. I think it's d-. I think these the Alexis max. Okay. All right. So mega says, it's number one, no, pumpkin. Now. Meghan DC hat it. Got it. You had it. I. Vent is the the Alexa and Google advantages Owen too. So I think I've been the the best attend to on this podcast so far. That's what that's what everybody always says, so Alexis Maxwell that she is really she's live tweet the episode and she's on fire. She says that I am upset hashtag. So she's a big Chris fan. Love Chris for some reason. Well, good for her for skits to hang out for a while. He went he's swiped left. Okay. Swipe left. He went right to the edge of extinction. Okay. We've still got a play the this week in survivor history quiz, believe it or not making. Are you getting ready for that? You say you pumped up. I am super pumped pumped up like little like what are those little sneakers with air pumps pumped up. 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You were you were the only three time contestant. Now, you're the only four time contestant. In your first three times, you have had every possible outcome. You have tied. You have one and you have lost. Even though the time you tied. You should've won one little bit of a scoring error there. Counting. I'm certainly not counting. So so who knows? Meghan. You are a twist legend f r f r which I just looked. Urban dictionary f r f r is for real for real f-. Legend. Yeah. I've got lots of put on my indeed dot com. Swish experience. What I will say Meghan, though, you were not the winningest player in intuition. I mean, obviously, rob has the most wins. But he's on every every week the person the guest with the most wins is actually on Boris who was one twice because I didn't screw up the scoring on either time that she was supposed to win. So you can tie Liana here with the most wins by guest intuition. If you beat the rob this week. That's good too. Now happy birthday lay on. I have no time. She has the crown. I really don't wanna ruin the on his birthday by by you winning here and tying her her Twitter. Twitter twist record weekend, a really affect celebrations. Yeah. Maybe syria. So are you the Boston rob of twitch the Ozzy of twitch the Rupert Sirri we multiple four-time plus player? Would you see yourself kind of this? I was kind of the Sirri of like like she. Almost just made it she got off the couch, the complete Twiss exactly like she almost just makes it every time. Like oh. And then you're like, wow, they're back again over here. So I think you are the Saran even though you've want your like the Sirri that's one you're. Yeah. Sirri? That's amazing. The time that these school is really screwed up. The scoring was sort of like advantage. Get it where it was like, you should you should have stayed. But ultimately, you got screwed by the rules. Exactly. I'm just fortunate enough to get more opportunities to play twitch. I'm sure of three got to play survivor again. She would definitely win one of these times. It's all about just having enough time to play an eventually you win one of the times. Okay. All right. And by the way, I think the reason I haven't screwed up so far this season at least for the RHA the gift exchange that we do in the patron in the and group Christie, Chrissy Benton. Shipley gave me this this amazing customize this week in survivor history scoreboard. And I think it's almost impossible for me to screw up. Okay. All right, Jordan. Do you need to explain the rules? Yes. I do need to explain the rules. I think Meghan knows the rules. I know rob knows the rules. But just just in case, you know, this is your first time your your first time here listening to the quiz. There are four multiple choice questions each of you will get to answer two of them. If you hear the question, and you're able to get the answer, right? Without hearing the multiple choice options you get two points. However, if you are wrong, and you go for to your opponent with the correct answer would steal point. If you hear the multiple choice options, you get one point if you're right if you're wrong your opponent cannot steal. And then we'll go to a final round where. You can both gain points. All explain the rules on that. When we get there. Okay. So Nagin read the four categories of the four questions we have swinging. We have we're number one. We're number one potential. Rick Devon's co worker and survivor history. Very specific. Wow. Swinging so weird one just go with survivor history. Survivor history. We're going to go to survivor CARA. Mohan the episode is persona non grata from March thirteenth two thousand thirteen six years ago Wednesday, which former survivor contestant did Brandon Hance specifically namedrop during his epic rant before. He was verbally voted out. Hint. This player was on heroes vs villains. I mean. I think he named dropped his uncle Russell. I think he said, I'm not Russell. So I'm just gonna take a shot and say Russell Russell is incorrect, which is wrong. You have a chance to steal a point here. I mean, there's not that many answers that it could be. Outside outside. A russell. I feel like the handsome poverty is never far from mind. Trying to think of anybody else. I can't see why he would have mentioned, Sandra. I guess there's a possibility that Boston Boston Rob's. Another name frequently on the lips of people from the Hance family. So I don't think there's anybody else that they would even think of or the branded would even know about. So I'm gonna say poverty, poverty is incorrect. So here's what the four choices if we had gone to multiple choice where Russell hands Boston, rob coach and poverty. So three of those people were people that we have spoken about so far. Russell hands was actually brought up and it's a little bit not unfair. But it's. Okay. Russell hence wasn't. I said typically namedrop, vibrant. And has Russell was named dropped by both Philip and Jeff Probst, and Jeff is talking about how you know. Obviously that he comes with this this legacy being is it in the blood. You Phil Phillip was talking about how how Brandon was disrespectful to Russell during the finale, but it was actually Boston rob who Brandon Hance named dropped. He said that Philip Philip is yelling at him. He said that a Philip only did well in his first season because he was brought to the end by Boston. Rob coach was not mentioned even though coach did was on the original season with Brennan hanso. Neither of you. Get a point there tough tough question because because razzle was brought up a couple of times. But not by Brandon, actually. So that's a tough one hundred percent. Okay. Never never never mentions. Russell by name. We are rob. It's it's your question. We have swinging where number one we're number one and potential Rick Devon's co-worker potential, Rick Devon's co worker, okay? We're going to the marquess ah. The episode is no pain. No gain from March thirteenth two thousand to seventeen years ago Wednesday on the Amara amou- tribe morning show who served as the weather reporter. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna go without the choices here. And I'm going to say that it was the pitch person for the. Atomic light. Hunter Ellis in the chopper. Okay. So there are many people who on that tribe who were part of the morning show, everyone basically with the exception of maybe Sarah Jones got involved in how to roll. But yes, it was hunter Ellis. Who is who is in? The offer is banging on his chest to make it sound. Like he was in a helicopter doing the weather. The person who does the weather are they normally in the helicopters and that usually the traffic person. But whatever wasn't it wasn't a storm chaser. Get points their hunter Ellis. Not not a great episode for him spoiler. He gets. He gets out. So rob you heavy meteorologist name, though, hunter Ellis with weather. Great. Great name, great grit survivor name as well. Unfortunately, did not get very far. I wonder what would happen if we saw hunter Ellis ever on survivor again, which probably is not going to happen at this point. What do you think you like you think he'd be like another like Brennan Shapiro type guy who? Alpha male maybe a little bit too too old school to potentially do elm again. What do you think making? I just feel the exact same thing happening again. Maybe call up Tammy late near and she can get him in interview with NBC to work in meteorology. All possible. Yeah. Probably more possible than one hundred dollars being back on survivor. I'd like to say it. I think it'd be interesting anyone from like the first like six seasons would be. It would be a lot of fun to have that on on the show. See what I did there out the first six seasons? Okay. Is he legend just not a legend? He's he's his. I think his episode is legendary where he gets voted out. I think his his vote is more legendary than he actually is a contestant, but Meghan, it is it is your turn. Here we have swinging and we have where number one we're number one. I'll go with we're number one. We're number one. We're staying in marquesses before Kathy peed on John Carol's hand who want to do the deed, but was unsuccessful due to performance anxiety making the services of the notorious cave yo necessary. I'm gonna just take a shot. Again. I think it's Paschal or Pascale PASCAL, PASCAL or PASCAL. Both correct. You get two points here. Paschal tried to do it. He couldn't he couldn't go. I think he was a little nervous there, and we needed to bring in Kathy for one of the this is a really fun episode marquess. It's by the way with all the the morning show the coach in and of course, the surprise hunter. At the end. You're both the. Gripe country of ours has to all. Mazey's Pitta me of four time survivor. Four twist contestant. That was the pit Amee of performance anxiety. If you ask me. Hey, rob. We have won multiple choice question left. We are going to swing in this saviour all-stars. Sorry, I blew it. From March eleven two thousand four fifteen years ago Monday who was set up as the swing vote in the Colby. Donaldson boot of survivor all stars. Let me think. So. And let me hear the choices. Okay. So I'm gonna give you the choices here. You're going to go for the three to two lead going into the files. And that is that correct. I have I have rob a two points Meghan with two points. If you get it right now since you're hearing that the options that will be three to I think, I'm correct here who we have the N is a Sheehan the whole spiel Meghan about how. I the red score come on the bit. Yes. Far come on. I've Asia ACN be ins on C likes Vandenberg de Kathy averick O'Brien who was set up as the swing vote in the Koby boot of survivor all stars. Okay. I remind memory I feel like that. This was the one where Kathy got taken away on the reward. So I remember she anti she that Koby captain America is pearly white teeth. And he's telling me what to do not like it. And who is it Jerry or Ethan? Jerry's not one of the options and Ethan Lexa, Kathy. Don't lex is this is this window. He's called he's calling the shots. So. Thin. She. And so I'm going to say it's say she in so she and throughout the episode was actually very mad at Gerry she didn't like the way that she acted around camp. She thought she was lazy thought she was a little bit annoying. But yes, she and she N is the swing vote here and does vote with lex Jerry to take out Colby here. Ethan actually votes with with Koby against Jerry. And I think that's a big part of the reason. Why white you thin is the next one voted out on the stripe and very good memory there? Yes. Kathy was on the reward with Shapira. So you get a point there, and you have a three to two lead going in to the final round. And that's what we're doing here for the final round, the death matches called screwed by the swamp based on the next time and survivor the tribe. Swap is coming to f- extinction. It turns out that this week in survivor history is a popular one for swaps. I will give you a season. And you must tell me who was the first person voted out after. Swab if the season had to swaps. I will specify will specify which one occurred this week so Meghan being that you are down by point here. You're going to go. I I pick a number between one and six to the side. The order. Four. Okay. So we're going to start with survivor game changers. And this is the first swap of game genders. And if you get this wrong, rob actually wins the quiz. Okay. Survivor game changers. It's like it happened so recently, but yet far away feels like. Okay. You have to. Funny. I have like this is like barely any memories for. Nobody does. That's why if Sarah plays again, she'll win because nobody remembers game changes. You know? What's so crazy as sometimes I'm like, man, I have like a steel trap memory for some of the stuff in early survivor, and the things that I listen to like nineteen to twenty hours of podcast about it's like, then even happen. Fever dream is a fever dream. Yeah. I really have no idea. I'm just going to go with Caleb. I don't remember so Caleb. You're correct. A very very good guess. Yeah. Sandra? Sorry, not Senator. And that was me trying to remember who was on. I said I think Tony went out and other people out. So you are correct though because Tony and Sierra did go out in the premier going into the second episode. We actually had this walk and capable is the one taken out so good job. And rob if it is your turn here, we will continue survivor Coggin. Okay. The first person voted out after the soul wop is going to be none other than. Uncle cliff cliff cliff. Robinson is correct you utility core to three lead Meghan same deal here if you are wrong, rob wins the quiz. We're gonna go to survivor one world. So Meghan you need to get this one right in order to win. We will. We will go to survivor one world. Okay. One. We're all gonna go at let's do it for Monica. Do it for Monica. This is the the week where Chris Underwood is uncertain honestly voted out. And yes, it was Monica Culpepper who is who was taken out right after the swap. We have a tie game. It is. Monica. As for two four and rob. Here's what happens if you get this one, right? Yeah. You win. If you get it wrong, we go to a tiebreaker so survivor cove wrong. The first person voted out after the swap in survivor corps on is going to be. America's sweetheart Anna, Kate, yes. Potentially conspiracy against her. But yes, Kate, I one voted off and Meghan. You came close. But rob wins by score of five to four. So Meghan your second loss. You're the first the first person who's ever lost the twist quiz multiple times. Unfortunately. But that's okay. That's like the great quarterbacks. They sort of like Brett farve has a million touchdowns and a million or sections. I mean, you're still legend. It doesn't take away. It actually I would say this this appearance adds to your legacy on twitch. You're definitely in the in the mount Rushmore. I don't know who the other people would be your one hundred percent. I think you in the then we'd have to fight it out for the last two Jordan will from American there. If I don't know about that. That I think you just putting him in there because that's the one with the question about Blake, of course. Okay. Jordan. Is it true that I'm off to my first ever three? No start in the history of Twiss. According to rouse factor checker. I believe you are. I think I think it was this your first two does. The amounts of Cassie does not small because robs the best. No and newborn baby sleep won't affect him. Because. Oh, it's an old jingle. I love it. It's like a time capsule showed up to him that twenty sixteen jingle. We're going to be playing that when you're when you're kids are in high school. Yeah. All right. Couple of the things that great great job once again, Jordan, so Meghan. Lemme ask you the couple of the things I want to ask you. Yeah. Go. Meghan. I wanted to you are a not only as a survivor historian abroad. It's a podcast historian. But did you think that Jeff Probst also was a shouting out a former RHA p favorite in the episode of this week you hear this comment from David does it make you maybe there's more game? Pollute Tarzan shout out. It's been a long time coming we've been waiting for that we talked so much about Tarzan. Game is. Talk about during one during one world and Tarzan Kim spread. Yeah. So shout out to the great Tarzan. Make I also like to at this point in the podcast play some of the worst voicemails of the week that didn't make the show, but we didn't get a ton of voicemails. And none that were especially bad. But I did have one that was for Jonny fairplay that I didn't get a chance to ask him. So maybe I can have you answer. This question for persons from our good friend Zach Brooks. Oh. Hey, robin. Wade this is growing, and I just wanted to wish you guys the happy ninety eight of three Johnny actually the first survivor. Guests in episode of rob the pockets ever listened to way back in two thousand ten into having him on on years later. I figured I had to call. And this is my first time other reading of what's now on survivor Yvette show. So Johnny I wanted to know from you. How is rob changed since way that thousand ten you have spent a lot of time with them and a lot of drug nights before. Then you tell us how you grow and change in the nine years of two thousand ten. And nothing. Okay. So Johnny fairplay is not here with us mega. But you've been here for the entire ride of Rob's podcasts. Can you answer any of the ways that I've changed in the nine years of rob? As a podcast. I mean, I can give both a sincere answer I can give. So I mean, the sincere answer is I think you've come a long way. I think the podcast really grown into a really exciting community. You want me to give other answers. I can say the microphones have gotten way better have naked. Neighbors running around there used to be running. True. We've moved on from a lot of questionable platforms that were out there when they're it be spree cast or vocal. Yeah. I think you've really you've built your empire. And if I was Johnny fairplay, I say, you know, we've both built podcasting empires that were proud of. Vocal might becoming back. Something new the new a new version of it. I think it's back. No good. Asking where can we have Oklahoma people were clamoring for it? Yes. It's it's it's all coming back. Okay. Anything else that you want to talk about while you're here? I don't wanna let you go. You don't wanna go. I'm trying to think if there's anything else. I don't think there's anything else from the episode. That's coming to mind. I think that everything has been going really well in the podcast, I've loved all the new additions. There's a lot of fun stuff. All the guests have been fantastic. What are you have? What's the what's what's with you? Nothing nothing to new just having a lot of fun getting to do the podcast every single week. And hopefully, we continue having fun all next week. I'm going to talk to Karl on the podcast on this. Yes. Talk with the godfather this week and have Brenton Lebel on the feedback show. And then next week in this spot. We're going to talk to Mary quick hausky frail Mary on this week in survivor. So should be another fun week of the podcast coming up next week, and we still have the wiggle room to go this week. Yeah. And all sounds lovely definitely looking forward to the wiggle room. Big fan. I do listen to all my podcasts at one and a half to acts or higher speeds. So, you know. Definitely everybody sounds really fest pastes for their wand off. But I prefer everybody's work that goes into those us into the one offs on. I listened to a lot of podcasts on like one point four one point five. But once we get to the songs, I put it on one point. Oh, what is what does that like listening to these these double speed Wanda's? It's it's like listening to music at a faster pace to me, it's normal. So when I listened to a podcast at one exit sounds very slow talking very slow at one point Megan outside of RJ. What's what's your favorite Goto podcast? I have a couple so I like my favorite murder. Say I do. Yeah. That's that's good. I I'm a big figure skating fan. So I listened to show called the skating lesson. They're one that I like. Conan O'Brien recently had a podcast that's out now called Conan O'Brien needs a friend listening to. I'm trying to think what else. I listen to Howard Stern. That's not a podcast. But you know, I I keep it keep it rolling. That's why you gotta listen at a faster speed. There's a lot lot of content to be a sponge about did. You want to weigh in on the wine tasting? Did. I wanna way. Oh, no, no, no. Now. Pat's heart pass. What about Renee? Are you a Rene listener Meghan? Oh, I this is this hands. Jesus. I love run up. My phone now is very good at correcting run up when I type it to other people in text messages. I'm a big fan of it. I love it. I love the the back half the wheel half. That's my favorite part. Which is the definitely that. If you love this podcast, you're going to. I love it. I have put my. You know, myself of the ring I said flying to Omaha Nebraska would not be the weirdest thing. I've done for our age AP. So I would be down to do it. The word for origin. I if you probably I mean, if you really want to get into it. I think if you count up the amount of know, it alls I've been to you're probably looking at like an over ten thousand dollar investment. At this point flying to Omaha to go see like one random person isn't as weird is like on paper. Like, hey, I spent ten grand on this and from with. Yeah. I would say that flights Omaha. Nebraska to meet one person is weird than like going to New York City or Boston or Philly or something to invent. I think this. I thought you were gonna say this podcast is the weirdest thing you've done on our AJ. Well, yeah. Providence evening podcast gonna be back this weekend top secret show that we're working on record that on Sunday. Guests Meghan what that's going to be the top secret, Akiva secret project. I mean, I saw a tweet it out that he needed comedy writers for things. But I don't know if that's related or unrelated to this. It wasn't marched specific. I'm gonna go with rob and kiva on. Kiva? Let's say, I don't know. I've no idea. That's it. I'm out of. Although we can I bring up one other thing from survivor was gonna tell you what. Because this podcast the outside. I reveal what it's going to be. So so Akiva, and I are both going to be cooking recipes, and then our family is going to. We did the best job with the recipe, and then everybody will get to here. And I won't be doing the podcast as work as we're cooking the meal for our families. That's sounds like an original idea. Never heard it before is it called chef for. And that's definitely not what Jordan Kayla pitched in. We came on starting to record this podcast, Robin, Akiva ravaged Cuba's, family needs dinner. All right last thing on survivor begging. Oh, yeah. Here's my my one edged Lord theory. That's epic. Lord. No. It's just like my one real like totally out there theory that Lord, I don't know. It's something that like Colin stone says it needs like his kind of like crazy off shoot theory that will come out. Okay. I'll to go on the dumb, and Colin Wicky and look up the immunity statue is holding a gold ball. And I'm thinking that someone needs to take that gold ball off the immunity statue. And that'll be a part of some sort of secret advantage. My real out there fan theory that people that you can have fun with. Okay. All right. Jordan buying or selling the edge. Lord theory from the ball in the immunity statues mouth, I'll buy it. I think it should. I don't know if it's going to, but it would be a lot a lot of fun. Okay. All right, Meghan, Meghan. I know we already found out the last time you were here. Who's who's the first survivor? You follow it on Twitter. And it was rob sister, Nina himself. This is a much easier game since you're a returning player here. Who's the most reasons -vivor you followed on Twitter? Oh, I know this. It's Hannah followed her today. Yes. Hannah job. Yes. Okay. Post war dog block you're in. Yes. I liked a lot of the stuff. I saw from her this week. Listen, it's not as epic. As the fact that I followed you Steven because I wanted to tweet you guys that I really liked your back to the future podcast. You know, it's still she's had a good week this week. All right. Mega. Are you listening to paraphrase podcast? I am not. But I would love it. If at one point Garth Greenwell just pop up to the Noah dolls, and you'd be like Garth. I'm googling you right now. Stephen outs gets on the peleton. And then away we go. Yes. Exactly. All right. So much fun to get to catch up. Of course, you could follow Meghan on Twitter at Meg wants to know. And I gotta figure out something something to do. We'll do it will you give me a list of what you're watching. I'll cross reference with. My Alexander, Chester spreadsheets. Something out or you to you. Tell me what you wanna cover and we'll figure it out. Okay. We'll do it. All right. And of course, Jordan Kayla. The man behind Twitter at Jordan Kayla is on Twitter anything else, Jordan. I think we I think we covered it all this week. Really, really great job, Meghan. Even though you did not win the quiz your place as a Twiss legend stands, and I think we'll see you. I think I think you're going to be the first five time twist player before anyone becomes the first time survivor player. So I would just be next. Let me do the math on that. No story checks out. I think that that's I think that's right. I mean, that's we check the impossible board. I did the game better. A safe bet. Okay. Alright. Unless mega go take next season off you'll be back next season. Right. Sure. Of cars have me. Always. All right. Go direct. Good stuff. Thank you so much for listening that we have a lot of fun here on this week and survivor. Hope you guys are enjoying it as well. We got the wiggle room. Coming up next talking with Josh Wigley about everything listening to the wand off as well going to be recording that on Josh league lose birthday on Monday. 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Survivor 38 Episode 11 Wiggle Room with Josh Wigler

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Survivor 38 Episode 11 Wiggle Room with Josh Wigler

"Learn. Learn. Learn learn. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Here we are in heaven is not getting Mudra on you on the war dog. Eight is talking with Josh wig ler about survivor. Yeah. UB do you know what that's worth baby heaven is with Wanda shirk in the wiggle room. I r- up the Corey be remember that last time we were out a mudbath together. No. I thought that that had happened. Maybe there's a dream the other evening. Are you a mudbath guy? I don't think that I've ever done a mudbath. I imagine that. I would hate it. Yeah. Is my instinct, I'm I was going to say I'm famously against massages. But I don't think that that's a famous position famous is probably the wrong word in my personal life my private life, which I'm now I am now leaking into the wiggle room. Really don't I don't like to be touched in that way. It makes me uncomfortable. Very nervous. My body tenses up and gets very close up. I really don't like to be massaged the idea of my back being cracked is a nightmare. So I think that the idea of of somebody like like very weak artfully lubricating, my body with with healing Seon slack. It seems that seems like like like an actual. Harm movie comes from. Yeah. So. Not my thing talking with Nick about this. I feel like I would do it. If I was on the show, but it would not be my idea of good time. I think I would probably be like squealing with laughter the entire time. Like the way that I often will do on the one I think is probably what would be happening is that like somebody would be like lightly, massaging, my my flabby bodice with the dark mud's, and I'd be giggling. Uncontrollably. But it would not be out of pleasure. It would likely be out of pain embarrassment and disbelief and probably just like the very baseline sense of tickling the like cling. All right. So now that that our you is the quest- our do I've been very lucky to get Josh Wik ler as he takes a break from all of the morning and eulogizing going on over in game of thrones to stop down and mourn. Eulogize wardag. Yeah. I don't even wanna talk about game of thrones right now. I only want to talk about the war dog. I gotta work on my word arguing but. Yeah, that's it. That's it for the war dog on. He's on thin. Yeah. Gabby had the great take. Gabby. Gabby is tweet on that was very funny. And I probably cosign I think that the the war dog run while still technically active. I would be very surprised to see war. We the person who returns from the extinction. Yeah. In the near future. I think we missed a great week of exit interviews from a war dog. Yeah. I mean, I do I do think that's I'm lamenting that this season very much, and I expect that I probably would for the very selfish reasons from a professional standpoint. But also just in terms of hearing from some of these people in their they're more natural habitats as they are watching the show unfold and being able to express what was going on and to get on here in hop on the line with you. I feel like you versus the war doc this week would have been very compelling material and not necessarily an adversarial kind of way. I just think that it would have been the kind of exit interview where you would have asked an opening question, and we would have gotten fifteen minutes of of unfiltered response. I would have. I would have on the we were out there. Okay. They want who beach in different killer where they go up and then and then keep and windy. Okay. And it's over it's over you. Don't get another word in the entire time. And he's just talking to you like a dog the hallway through. Those are offered the great exit interviews, so hopefully, hopefully, what this is all said, we'll get the retrospect, I think we're really going to be missing word Eigen the in the very near future. We didn't even get to the Chris Underwood boot. But I see I know you very they gotta run. So we'll see you on finale night. Yeah. We're lucky that we got to keys we got as far as Keith that man. Yeah. I'm I'm really gonna miss dog out there in the active game. I think that he was he was bringing a great energy from these past episodes that we're going to we're gonna tragically miss. I think that as I've been saying I feel like a berry bump puzzled about edge of extinction just overall, but be I think that the season had been taking a turn towards towards the George significant entertainment upgrades from from where it was in the early portion of the season for me, largely in part because of sort of ward unpredictability was a big factor in it. And just as general Tony us. I do think I'm a sucker for that type of character on. Survivor. So I guess I'm excited to see what that looks like on the edge of extinction. But I would have said that he was like an actual winner potential a potential winner candidate. He was still actively in the game. I think that I would basically completely rule him out at this point because he's just ungodly terrible. In those challenges. Very candidly in this come from somebody who would be even worse. So I think we're going to miss him from the main game. And I'm curious to see what what is the sweet and sappy edge of extinction scene with the war dog. Look like next week. I don't know of such a thing can exist or if it just becomes a situation of him in ream madly screaming at each other. Which would which would also be very very fun. If that would be very fun. Let's focus on the seven people that are still in the game. And I thought that a lot of the focus is we Josh was on Ron Clark on interested to know, your thoughts on where Ron story goes from here. Well, I think that there was a lot of focus on Ron. But I actually do feel for the first time. There was there was focused on on a few other people who either I hadn't been paying attention to or I've had my eye on but are moving forward in ways that I wasn't necessarily expecting like, I think Julie remained a really active presence on the show this week. I agree. I'm still feeling really good about having drafted Julie first overall in our winter draft a couple of weeks back. I think she's very much still in this thing. And she is the one who is in her conversations with Lauren being like, I think Wardag a little bit scarier than Devon's not that Devon's is an active inactivity available target this week. But I think that her articulating that on on the show even early on is at least for me, it feels like we're being clued into the back that Julius head is in the right space in terms of where the votes ought to be going. So really liked what we got from Julie this week. I really loved what we got from Lauren this week as potentially like the kill Bill. Vengeance quest for trying to really reclaim this thing. In honor of Wentworth could be a fascinating story. Arc to to follow of so much of the season had been about the returning players and them not fitting in comfortably with a much wider group of new players. All of the returnees are now on extinction. And now it really is goonies time to shine and to see Lauren kind of pick up the torch and move forward. I think is now a really compelling storyline on the board. Even Aurora had a lot to do this week. Gavin starting to crack out of this show, Victoria, maybe regressing a little bit Devon's doing his Devon's thing. And then, of course, the question that kicked off this rant. Ron who? I would agree is somebody who were seeing sort of in that like traditional active forward momentum strategy role. And I'm really impressed with Ron Clark. I really am. And I think Ron Clark, maybe I've been underestimating all the way through as far as somebody who could potentially bring this thing home. I think him going against war dog this week. I actually really like the move alternately. What is it that you like so much about getting rid of war dog here in this spot? I think that Ron is finding himself in a position where he he came into the merge with the big comma strong thing he's the first person to take a shot internally at Kama with most everybody agreeing. That let's take out Joe. This is our our time to take out Joe. So it's a fairly bloodless affair. And then once the comma blood starts flowing from there. It's really not run who started that he's fairly blameless in in all of that. When when things go crazy against Julia. It's a matter of survival for Ron at that point having already been burned the move against David is a pretty easy consensus thing for someone like Ron to get on board with the move to take out Wentworth, a very agreeable move for a guy like Ron to go after the last returning player in the game to you know, to that point on his resume as he is building that out and to take out war dog. Now, who is the person who's probably getting blamed for a lot of those moves, and who is being seen as such a threat at that point. I think maybe earns him some favor with people who are already currently on the jury, and I think with this majority comma crew that is now still in. The game. I think Devon's probably feels like he doesn't have much of a choice, but to work with Ron moving forward because I think Devon's is options are really, narrowing. And I think that Ron's options are reopening in in a way that is so much more flexible than I would have predicted for him given his position coming into the merge. I think the comical apps was the best thing that could have happened for Ron's game in a lot of ways. A well. I would like to respectfully disagree because I've you this right now with, you know, please don't accuse me of being a fish back in contrarian for the sake of the podcast. But no, we often agree though. So I I'm here for this. So I really look at Ron at a point right now where I'm seeing potentially his agency and options are shrinking right now. And in terms of this past vote, I wonder if war going home was more of a product of Julie saying, and we saw her with Lauren in the. Reward. No, it has to be war dog. I insist Wardag as the vote not Devon's as Lauren was pushing for. And so even if Ron Clarke had wanted to keep more dog in the game. That's only three votes against Aurora in this round of voting. And if Julie wasn't on board, or even if she was that only gets it to four, and I wonder if Ron was sort of forced into this move because he didn't want to be on the wrong side of the numbers. And I actually don't think he has a lot of different ways to go. I think that he sort of love locked in with having to make this work with Julie and Aurora, and I don't really know where he is going to go next. And I think that he's the next big target after Devon's I think he's probably the next big target after Devon's, but Devon's is such an obvious person to go after next I feel like at this point somebody who's like truly. Someone who's been wrong on a lot of things along the way. So not to say that he should be the biggest hard because he's the most threatening person in the game from a strategic standpoint, he's whiffed white about she's been voted out his the easily agreed upon target by the other six people in the game that who's their number one target. They can all say Devon's that's the easiest piece to take off the board. But if Devon's say wins, immunity, again this week I easily see a scenario where Ron is going home. I think Ron could be in trouble. But I think that Julie really does feel connected to him. So I think to to get out Ron would be leaving Julie out in the cold right now. And I feel like that's something that I don't know that Lawrence going to want to to risk that. I think Victoria, seems like somebody who's just gonna vote wherever you know, the numbers are. So if she's included in a plan like that, I think she'd be down for it. I guess shouldn't underestimate Gavin's willingness to go after Ron given that if he's already targeted Eric who seemed like his airtight best alliance in the game. At that point in time that I think to try and understand Gavin's motivations at any given time for me feels like a little bit of a mistake. So. Yeah. Maybe maybe maybe you're right. I don't know that it's necessarily even that I feel like Ron is like was the one who led the charge on the word vote or anything like that. But I feel like for for him. If he's able to finesse this moving forward, we see in the preview that he wants to do something funky with the the advantage menu. That he still has no longer usable. But is bluff -able that. If he's able to do something creative with that. I feel like I feel like the story is laid out in favor of Ron at the very least. I think that there are still doors that are that are open for him. And I think that him knocking out ward being a part of the collision that takes outward argh in this vote. I think at the very least if he's able to advance for the next little while he's had a compelling part to play in a lot of the take downs so far. So I I like that about him. But I think that there's probably other people that are still in Troy. Like, it seems like a roar is at least consideration every single time now home her time has to expire at some point unless she's able to just kind of survived by the skin of her teeth through challenges or whatever it ends up having to be. I just feel like I feel like we're here with Ron for will. I hope so I've really enjoyed having him on the show. I just think that the way that this season has unfolded where it's the people who quote on quote have the resumes, and they sort of like are standing out like the tall. Poppy of. Hey, I've made a move. And then he is the one person in this group that people can point to and say boy, Ron somebody. Who would look pretty good in the final three. Let's take him out next. You're saying that Ron Kirk is the opinion me of tall pappy. Yes. Yes. Basically, I just think that that would be easy case. Like, hey that could be our big move. We take out Ron. Yeah. I. Feel like I feel like we'll have Ron another week, which is probably why aren't about why he won't make this week. But my fingers have never been so far off the pulse of survivor than they have been this season. I feel like I feel like everything that I know is wrong and of my instincts have been wrong, so far so Ron Clark may be in the mix this week. Who knows we'll see just as we're following the story of survivor the edge of extinction. I one of the voice mails from this week's feedback show that I want to bring in and then have you away in on. It has to do with these storyline on the edge of extinction. It's a little long. Let me let this play out this voicemail from one of our listeners. Stephen, hey, Robin. Nick, this is Stephen I wanna talk about a really great emotional full circle moment that happened in the episode. I bought my eyes out of no one around me could understand why I was crying. So Kelly went worth goes to extinction island rains telling her, you know, our usual her usual welcoming saying, she's not welcome. And she's real mad at her. So Kelly sitting out there crying, and she gives her long monologue, which was really well, Bokan and amazing. She always is because she's great and. So after all that Kelly's laying out there in the sign and Rame mind, you the first episode Kelly coming for rain rain coming for Kelly Kelly's ruined her reams chance to play survivor. But after all that after Ramos told everybody, she didn't want to be the mother figure this great great scene happened. I wrote a poem bounce a little high Q for rob has a podcast. I'm not sure mother screw you do d- healed my dream, but don't get sunburned. I just thought that was the most amazing thing she she doesn't even Kelly to have the slightest bit of discomfort even though she's been out there for thirty days. Almost just mad at Kelly went worse. Thank you so much Rame. You brought so much please come back. Bring rain Bax deserves another chance she's given so much to the show. Thank you. I want. I want to know do you guys? Thanks it Brima play. Again. I think she should all-star game changer. Okay. So great, cloud COO and a love letter to the great room. I don't I don't think that you are I are gonna come on here and disagree at all with the love rim. Damn well, I had said in the podcast with Nick I thought that Devon's is probably the number one returning from the season. But then I had re-met number two the people that should the returning play or the new players that should be brought back for another season of the show. So you know, how I feel about ream? But I wanted to have you weigh in on that scene because I thought that really was a beautiful moment in survivor to have where ream goes into her whole thing about Kelly ruined her game. And how you know that she's really she holds Kelly responsible for killing her survivor dream, and then at the same time, she comes out and stops Kelly from getting too much sun and. Having any discomfort on the edge of extinction. This is the same woman who didn't want to be anybody's mom, but his been exactly that to a number of the castaways this season. Well, I think what what it is is that remake daily and one of the reasons why I think her becoming the the mayor of extinction. You know, being the first person who gets to to go out there and kind of be the Representative of of twist of the season if the theme of the season is that she is beyond its her being like the mother to these people or anything, she's just she's a Frick in authentic human being. And she is she is nobody except exactly who she is. And there's no falseness with reams. She is hysterical often intentionally sometimes deeply unintentionally. She can bring us to these emotional moments because she is. His so raw that you know, she is going to let you know, how she's feeling about you. And that can be both. I'm personally inter personally is with you. Because I feel like what you did by being out here. And by playing against me the way you played you ruined my dream. And you're the reason I'm here, but you're also a human being, and I don't want your skin to turn Ron we all have to be out here together. And she's just she's such like, a well rounded human, and I feel like I think that there are probably other people on this cast who could have been voted out first. And we still could have had somebody who is such a champion of the idea of what they're trying to explore with the edge of extinction of like who are you? When everything is taken away who are you when you are hungrier than the than the hungriest survivor players in the past been who are you when you are more bored than the most board survivors players of seasons past. That's definitely something that they're trying to test here. And I think the take somebody who's like such a. Hyper frenetic personality in so many ways like ream to to have that be the person who is at the forefront of of this theme is in in so many reasons is in so many ways the reason why the twist is working if it's working for people, and I know it's not for everybody. And it's not always working for me. But to have her on our screens every week, and I feel like it's the kind of thing where obviously the outcomes or the outcomes, and however the story is going to play out. It's the way the story is going to play out based on how it shook out a year ago, and they filmed it, but there is I think like a little bit of an active quality do the creation of television product, but creation of the season. I would guess this without knowing anything. But I would guess that. There has been a little bit of a feedback loop on just how much Reema is resonating comedic -ly but emotionally as well. With people that I think that they are realizing they have such a gold mine with reams that we're getting so much more from her. At these like end tags at the end of each episode, even come up with an emotionally compelling scene with rematch. She connects to Kelly Wentworth like that is that's the that's like the poster of the season. I think that that's something that they always look for when they're when they're making these things I think approached is talked about like in the survivor podcast, or maybe it's not as popular but advantage get an in game changers being something that really lives up to the billing of game changers. There's a few moments like this for me throughout David versus Goliath, whether it's Christian versus Alec in that challenge or the David's pooling their resources together and affectively using the idol fire is is like the embodiment of the whole what is the advantage idea? And I think as far as the edge of extinction is concerned. This was probably this was the point. You know, this was the moment the scene between Riemann went worth like that is really a lot of ways. I think what they've been. Going after and I agree with the poem. It was beautiful. It was wonderful. And I actually think that of all the people on this season rim daily would very easily be in first position for me to bring back from this cast, not even close. Yeah. She has been such an addition to the cast, and it's hard to imagine that a first boot has been so impactful in terms of the course of the season. But I really think that she is the person who has made the edge of extinction worked whatever degree you feel like it's worked. I think that one hundred percent of the credit goes to daily, you know, I was thinking about this too. It's hard to envision the road back to the game for ream just from like the challenge perspective who she's going up against. I think she had a secret scene shortly after she went back to extinction where she's like look up against like the challenges are going to be really difficult. I don't know that I'm going to be able to get back. In here. But I'm going to keep pushing and I'm gonna be here the whole time, and I do wonder what reams shot of outlasting some of these people or outperforming some of these people in challenge might be. But I in the universe where she's able to out challenge. Beast Joey amazing and lean gets back into the game. Somehow, it's hard to know what that path to the end would be, but I feel like remake daily versus anybody in the final three is unbeatable. Like, I feel like it would be impossible to not vote for Rima. Specially when you've got her facing a jury that is going to consist at that point of people who at the very least a majority of the jury will have spent time out on the edge of extinction. We'll know how hard that experience was and for Rima to have gone through it for the entirety of the season before coming back in. And I think also just as we're trying to scratch our heads figuring out like who's going to win this season. Like, you can't just look at the active crop of players. There's the very likely chance that the winner is not laying traditional survivor right now that the winners somewhere out there on extinction. And if that's the case Wentworth is is still very much in play based on this scene that we got this week. I was one of the better ones that we've had if somebody reflecting on their time on extinction that I think ream it's it's so hard to imagine how she gets there but remained be in the upper half of. Winner candidates for me at this point. Okay. I don't know how you would get there. But you know, I dream daily about survivor champion ream tail. What is what I try to do try to actualize the vision and the number one season in my season rankings after this. I think it's probably the only thing that could happen. That would keep it in like top half seasons for me is a real daily victory. I would probably would make it pretty elite. But the funky season of all time is the one that daily is the champion of adding been voted out. I earlier in that same season. It's probably not going to happen. But man, oh, man. I would be thrilled. It would just be. It'd be the greatest thing all time. So as we are glowing about the scene that we got from the edges extinction this week. Are you surprised that we didn't get anything with David Wright? And Kelly went worth in fact. David Wright, other than council was completely purple in this episode. We did not see anything from David Wright. And after so much of the story. This season was David versus Kelly. I'm surprised that we didn't get a moment of the reunion on the edge of extinction, especially because we saw Kelly with the other returning players. And if not even just David in Kellyanne surprised that we didn't get a shot of the four returnees on the edge of extinction of like, boy, how did we end up here? I mean, maybe that shot doesn't exist. If David has decided to like move into the mountains, you know, v is decided to pick up stakes and leave camp and go live closer to the rice, or whatever if he's just decided that he will not be part of this -ociety option. I have no idea we have no idea we have no idea what life is like out there because that would be ideal. Probably if you could just set up your camp next to where they deliver the rice. That seems like like the Moore I would go that's where I would go. You know, if I if I could at least I would spend like most of my time out there. I think just like wait for my wake my daily meal, and I wouldn't move. I wouldn't move much. Josh. Man. I don't know. I also liked by the way, just to go back to remain really quickly that during tribal council when Devon's was talking about how everyone at camp is acting like a bunch of Julius Caesar's with knives in their hands. And then they get caught. And it's like, whoa, dude. I believe is more like describing the way that he described Julius Caesar's language felt very rim daily s like I imagined ream daily playing the part of Julius Caesar. Also that maybe the story was not conveyed correctly. Season of fiery metaphors of crash and burn metaphors. Yeah. So it was a off week for Stephen fish back to miss the. No, it alls where given us the proper Shakespeare of at all. Yeah. Is DO for me for Kelly and David there's only so much time in these episodes for them. There's so much to choose from much more. So this season than they've ever had before and only so little time, and we're not even really getting a ton of the bonus online content anymore either with the lack of Ponderosa this season. That would the senior describing any kind of like reconnection between Kelly if it existed out there would have been perfect for that. But I think maybe they feel like we gotta do one nine edge of extinction and a reconnection between Wentworth who is the last of the returning. Players to be removed from the from the active game to have her with such like internal mythology within this season, connecting to remake the first person voted out and to have reams who was not crying on her way out the door, but was exasperated and frustrated with Kelly Wentworth, very specifically, I can tell you from having witnessed that tribal council to now be able to come up with this moment where Reims can in her room daily way almost take Wentworth under her her weighing in almost help Wentworth have a moment of emotional awakening. Even though David Wright is such a great storyteller. And even so much of the season did have this. Storyline of David v. Kelly. I feel like the connection of Wentworth back to Reims is probably the better story for the overall theme of extinction as as a concept, and I just don't think that there's enough room in this episode. For both of those things. But maybe it'll come next week the next week. They also have to try and figure out some sort of way to have a touching Wardag extinction scene and have a family visit and the challenge on top of that. I'd be like next week's episode is tracking to be one of the weirder. Busier episodes in recent survivor memory and just go back to something that you mentioned in terms of not getting any bonus information. It does seem as though the pilots versus passengers tribal council might have also broken the secret scenes where we had the tribal councils that were sort of like one day after the next or maybe even the episode from before Eric boated out where it's just very weird that the secret scenes for the season which had been as it has gone. The last couple of seasons of after the episode. We get a bunch of secrets that has just stopped your midseason on the CBS all access. I've heard that I've become. Such a casual that, I don't even seek them out anymore. So nothing. Well, that's what I heard. I'd heard that really late. I heard that, you know, a few days ago was the first I might heard that I've no Intel on why that's the case. It was a product of where there was a tribal council the day after that makes sense that maybe there was no secret scenes or any sort of confessionals that were shot because that they had so little footage here for the and then the next week with the double episode, and I said, okay. Well, maybe that also, but then this week also really after that first episode of the merge, we haven't gotten anything, which is just another bizarre thing here to the edge of fiction. It's so weird to me. And so so insane to me frankly that on this season that is the double stuffed Oreos of survivor seasons that we are not getting any. I'm gonna pilot and passenger my own metaphor here. I was gonna we're not getting any any extra Cup of milk to dunk these cookies into, you know, the the digital there's no Ponderosa. We're not getting any secret scenes there's so much. There's so much. Having that everybody except for two people from the starting lineup of survivor players. This season is still in the hunt for the million dollars. And we're not even getting that bonus content is is. Secret scenes are over. Yeah. It's just such a strange season to do that for where I think you can really feel the strain of struggle of where the showed its run time makes it impossible to like really fully express what's happening out there. Like, you can just imagine the amount of material that they're that. They're not able to pack into an episode for whatever reason because they just have those time constraints, frankly, like if they're still looking for things to to ditch I think get rid of previously on survivor completely stop bringing that back just make choice and stick with it. And I think at this point it's probably too late because we're so deep in the season. But I don't need to see war dog go to the sign. I know he's picking up the torch just showing there just at the edge of extinction at the a couple seconds yet. But that's that's like it's probably like fifteen seconds that they might be able to do something. With if we're not even gonna get the secret scenes than like stopped showing us the foregone conclusion, we know that everyone's going to the edge of extinction. We don't need to end the episode that way every time I dunno rambling. It's it's crazy to me that on on this season specifically where there are sixteen people still in the hunt for the million dollars. Not only do are we at a point where there's no Ponderosa, but there's also no bonus content whatsoever for the people who really love seeking that stuff out. Is is definitely surprising to me. I've no answer for it. I'm as shocked as anybody. All right. Well, with that in mind, let's start to move towards our second half of the show where some wand offs are getting played. I let me take a moment. 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Lilacs just filling up the nostrils these past few days. They're dead. Now. Go any villages? And. If you need to you can leave your. Happy. Just eight your. You could. Happy. Here. We are only a couple of one offs left to go in the edges of extinction. Of course, Josh we are closing in two when we are getting close to the finale of this season's wand off. And then that's when my everybody who didn't make the final wand off will compete with a chance to get into the final onto off, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding briefing that bow those hats, those hats that's called these next couple of weeks. Chicago all you have to do is win the wand off to get back in the game and get into the final one. But that's he said we've got some dates right linked to some dates to out there for the peeps. Let's talk some shop as we get into last week. We had a very controversial final you say very controversial. That word and save lightly. I mean, there was almost a major coup where the wand off artists almost took out Casey K some of von awareness. Very they were very unhappy with everything that Casey Kasem was doing in December and just another another thing going against Casey Kasem emerging Casey case. And then I'm I'm set. They were people were upset people were upset because they felt like, hey, well, we don't have enough time to put together a final wand off in time for a show at the end of the season. So this season the way things work, and we don't have a Christmas to deal with here. So what we're able to do is be able to let the one-off play out a little bit more here at the end of this season. John saying the wand off as a little extra eagle room a little extra wiggle room. So let's just lay out the schedule for the this season's final one-off four the interested parties and the listeners of because the survivor finale is coming up on may fifteenth. So the final the final week to win entry into the final one will be that final episode. We will room of the season. So the week episode thirteen edition of the wiggle room. We'll be the final chance to win your way into the final want off. And then it songs for that week for the may fifteenth wiggle room. You are Wanda may may thirteenth. May fifteenth. We'll be the alley of survivor the edge of extinction. And then Josh, and I will talk about the finale sometime on the sixteenth or seventeenth. It is the lead up to the finale of game of thrones. Which is something that judge is very busy covering over a T HR dot com slash game of thrones. So on the the sixteenth probably the sixteenth, maybe the seventeenth according to schedule allowing we will do a wiggle room. Final wiggle room of the season to talk about the finale, and then sometime throb ably may twenty second of twenty nineteen the date. We're looking at it's marked off on the calendar. That is when we will play the final wand off entries from the people that have qualified for the final one. And let me say I had a time. Time. Let's cap at two minutes and thirty seconds. If it's two minutes and thirty one seconds. It'll be disqualified from the final Wando. Wow. Well, my God, the one second is sexy. I like it. I'm expecting to see some two minutes twenty nine years in there. Okay. That's fine. That's some two twenty nine. Over three last time. And then whatever you want, whatever, you whatever you want it to be about dago. Okay. So that's going to be the we own editor the survivor finales. Okay. All right. So and then at some point in the future beyond that, we will reveal the winner of the final Wanda off in a mechanism to be determined. But the final wand off show will be recorded on may twenty and twenty nine thousand nine plenty of time to come up with songs that fully incorporate the totality of survivor edge of extinct, Xiang. Yes. And so that deadline will be on the Tuesday of of the strip the stroke of midnight on may twenty first eastern standard time. Yeah. And I will hopefully still be alive considering the game thrown series. Finale is may nineteenth and is set to dominate. Eight every last fiber of my being my human being. Okay. All right. So that being said Joschka, let's look back at last week's one-off for episode number ten as. Award another win in this season's wand off in third place with nine point four three percent of the vote. It was Stacy from Maryland with we are the passengers I like that one. Does that was fun? That was good job. Stacey okay. All right in second place last week. And this was. The one that got a lot of media attention because there was a choreograph dance that was put out for Becky and Taylor what the war dog does. Yeah. What the war dog does e shaves his beard into a strap. You got got that chinstrap. Yes. Instrument going watch the war dog dance video. I did this impressive moose if if if they still had the mecca out there in the Fiji-based survivor seasons. I think war dog could win his when his first challenge. I think many other weeks Becky Taylor would have won the week without one. But they ran into a juggernaut with forty two point zero four percent of the vote with Mr. Tyler Jacob Jones, making educ at of nothing at all. I know that is sneaky and. Can love. Got facial muscles. A beautiful ballot. I know people were saying that they listened to it time and time again time after time. Okay. All right. If in some difference, Josh that being said, let's turn this over to the man at the center of all this wand off action. He is the host of the Wanda of back four his his fifth season of a one-off. Is that right? Thirty five or six or seven the fourth season of one. Yeah. Gary is Mr. Casey Kasem. Rowden? Josh, it's a pleasure to be back here with you on the Lund off. But before we go any further. Josh I just have one game of thrones question that I need to ask. Yeah. Of course, absolutely anything for you considering that you you've been keeping the crypts of the wiggle room safe. So gotta gotta here yet. Casey. I wasn't sure if there was something wrong with my TV. But was it supposed to be that dark? He was really dark really dark. The night is dark and full of terrors allegedly. Who's very dark it. So. So hard to say I thought for a second. I was watching the sopranos finale. That you're onion rings more onion unite fewer onion rings, Josh let's get into this week's wand off. And of course, the wand of artists were very inspired by the events of this past week. We're going to kick things off with a wand off from one of the emerging superstars of the wand off. Here's big Irene with a song about this week's voted off contestant. Well, David Wright is Emma says apparently that was a thing voted him out and say. But then he got a little to pilot show, and he turned on and he connects to go. Little everybody upset by trader sees later. If only challenge that. Great. That was classic earworm from the behave, man. That's a keeper keeper war dog gave the wand of artists lot of material to work with this. We did. Yes. He did. Here's DJ de magic with an ode to war dog. Who? Then when we're through bees. The BBC BBB. Trump spoken. Warnock style. That was so stupid. But it cracked me up from Sira. Don thomas. Sound jobs? Next up more of that war dog getting voted out of the game. This time from the granted family. Bro challenges on it. Man has known. That was from Carly ream Jepson. Awesome. Did you see Queen ream on Twitter this past week? I did not I have all social media mentions turned off. So they don't show up on my phone. She she tweeted out a picture for base superimposed onto sir c Lancaster's body and wrote when you play the game of thrones you win or your lame. Which was I'll take some credit for that. I suggested that to her. You sent ream a private message. And or you may the mean, no, she had she had tweeted, a word, frankly at worse version of the same joke earlier in the evening, and I replied to and said should be you win or you. Wait, your lame, dude. And she tweeted out the correction, much higher social engagement. I have to say looking at like two hundred something I'd like at the moment should be higher than that. Maybe it will be after this one. Do you think I need you telling me at a run my social media, or I honestly, honestly is Lee honestly to be completely honest with you. I would quit off my jobs in everything I'm doing in life to become reams personal manager. Listen list. We'll take you up on that after the season. All right. We're tight leash right now, pending salary negotiate. All right. All right read. It's my part of the show. And if I may continue here comes Andy from Wisconsin talking about the war dog. Now, this is a story all about what happened after I got voted out. I tried to myself with all the threats, but I got eliminated the same week is my Brooklyn nets. On edge of extinction. I arrive at tribal council was total line side. I have to admit that this wasn't my plan. But saying passengers worse than calling me, Dan, maybe vote Kelly people to or surrounding the as soon as I get there. I hear enough she said. Rear and you're going to get it tomorrow. I can't want to challenge because I can't I ever throw in. How am I supposed to compete with both Chris and Joe for you can't come me out yet? Let's be honest to final challenge could be money back. Rub. Contest. Some people said I would never make it this far. But the that never nicknamed tattooed on my arm now on I don't care. I'll sit on my throne the fringe with. No there. He's got hair. It's there that was classic from Willard Smith one writes it so at Andy from Wisconsin could work on keeping up with the tempo, but he's got jokes for days. Great jokes. Great jokes, forgivable tempo. Slights tastic jokes. Here's a collaboration. Speaking of mud bath contest. Here's Michael Clark and Lindell from Australia damning in heaven like Rick Devon's dog. Yes. My eyes. Pacing. I know the dog easing. Hey. Excited. Much. One two. War. Dull? Make some bull. That was from the croup van chicken Morrison. Damn maybe John Morrison. That would be good. Next up more on that reward. Here's another newcomer to the one off who's been making waves. Here is swaggie. Jay. Of this. They want and. Who's your? Rick Devon's we have had of in down. We need each of the now we're on or this game. This is the time to. Sign three. I know loyal sees now brand tower show you is. And I can do anything that you need on your back out cake, mud own you make you asked me to. Access then we'll rinse Todd bass out on you, you feel Brin new mud from the head suits. So Devon's though key us. This is from my favorite artist of the week areas. Splice to MENA. It's only fitting that Joe MENA gets in on some of this. Tony clone action. Not for nothing to you. Seeing Wardag go home on a week where he much like Tony wlac goes is covering himself in tons of mud scores. Some notches on the Commodore for sure. Taking up next up. Here's Kerry talking about this week's voting strategy at tribal council. Everyone's. They voted. And they say. Everyone's. That was from my second favorite artists week DJ, Colleen Lasko. That is a great mental image. And finally to close out this week's honorable mentions on a week when there could be many more Arbel mentions. Here is Abe from LA talking about our Queen of the edge of extinction. Really? If not for. Edge of station. Those. Bure's dumb out on days. So see why I'm so. Every. And your. Ew, gross. A beautiful song written by pastor. John lennon. Wow. That was you know, a Barry appropriately beautiful song for the most beautiful scene. If the season. Big fan big fan of that one a heck of a base week out on their rain. Just like Bryce base, boys. Josh are you ready to hear the top five songs and all of wombats nation or ready? Let me just be up front and in full transparency. Jeez. This will be a top six songs all of wombats nation competitive field. Rob has been talking to me, and I'm listening. Okay. First up. Let's talk about Audrey s from Dallas with a song about Kelly's journey on survivor. So. On this. Cut the Gaudio cut. The audio. Kelly are using fear is finally out. Out what the hell took them. Long. I was trying to do that all three which ended up eating. Weeks ago, you'll be getting my full foreign limit. I will sit out here. Darkness. Everybody here is not at someone destroying our homes. To get it off my chest with this is the. Yeah, we learned that everyone was faithful. We were staying. These pants. Suck again. Three. It could. Then if I. Candy. Because this is spy sweep. To see. Sup- says. That was a great number from Rehana ship here. Paint that mental image painted next up a love it. It's a man who's won the wand off already three times here in season thirty eight here he is going for his fourth weekly title in season thirty eight here is Alex g. This game won't go the way planned back from extinction blindsides, but now in panned buns start this drink then in one again back with sue. But now that David gone these towels field so smooth God. God. Dog. That Jerry cheese. More dog just to try. Oh back. Don't mind. But it felt so nice threats. My new side kid I've dreamed of this day one. I don't even know your real name does. I think that we are getting laid in some danger. It's not what war dog do not how they play this game. But this but feels silky smooth. You. More jobs liked. With war dog on next will be. Dog to try. Package Wanda of bow. I felt so nice threats side soon. Rubbed. Now, he's out. That was from Katy Gallagher Perry aka Katie name that Perry. Komo's so. Popular immunity from an earlier season of survivor. Yeah. I don't remember it. Forgotten it. Speaking of Becca, Devon's this loved ones visit coming up. What are the odds that we see we see her on the show? And then we hear a Wanda from her about her own appearance on survivor that is that in the future. I feel like that might be frowned upon. Well. I mean, I'd like to see. Next up. Here is Jason Lee. Who's had some close calls here in the wand off top five here. He is with a song about rain. Carbon. It sucks. On here and diarrhea. But now what's going on? Got the green. Going. We can tell it. With her. One. Experience. Target. Gun again. Experience went to. With her. Yeah. An extinction. Fiction. You bet your ear and you're gonna tomorrow. If that was classic rock song from Joan jetty. Next up here. But you got is Robin from Rochester who is still confused about what Rick Devon says when he wins immunity to. Then asking Google just what is the lead? She's Orie would she's are- as a super fan strategy is what I love. I'm not saying that golf's not a game people watch. But it's not one that. I find fun are the tread dad toss game is on them. With dog was painfully awkward on your new catchphrases. Rogue. Every challenge with celebration strains. Call to be explains two hundred and ten people also good your phrase on Wednesday between a and ten. Cast is from. Devin. Something different. The show to search random golfing, bro. Wanda straight to my heart. That was from marshmallow and seabass steel. And I believe Rick Devon's is shouting out the Tony Kornheiser show. Not a golf podcast. Okay. Well, but people also yell that out at golfing events. So I can understand the confusion. Don't ask me. This is where Devon's partways this is where something happened earlier in the time stream where you got into cheese REEs. The only cheese area. I like is Chuck he's. Next up. Here's Matt from Waterloo. Getting us ready for this week of survivor podcasting. First of all when I look at Jane, I wanna say. Fifty it's down to this challenge. Out big threats strategy with the biggest left his dandy, currently then to civil can't. Never been wanted. The time has come out saying everyone would be painting. Painting. Got to go. She'll be. Voting for. Right here. Try to pay war. That was price. Indeed deal. Right. All I ask him on this weekend. When he thought about a Wanda off of what you look at for fizzy, and then to close out the week in the top six here is a man who's already won a one-off already this season. Here's Bob with two Bs talking about his wishlist for the edge of extinction. I wish for that went with was playing in this game. I wish the pope's still announce all of the jurors names. I wish we would post an in depth interview with Kelly. I wish the guy sixty-nine and made it to my tally. I was said and win was. But now we get to revel in Kelly on the pants. Face it blurts, just which things. Blurts just switching. Back. Sometimes to protect myself into a cast off on the side. And I'd like to see big emotions in their bullpen y themselves like my handlebar fan. I wondered that's abundant because I'm never satisfied. I remember when Jonny fairplay showed up bits faded. We stood. I could but I guess Jeffers and I was thinking that the season only, but then Kelly should can shot a wicked ways the ball with chatter. She's got your face. It hurts just which things. Just which. Zero. Got with me. Oh that was cameo in that one too. That was from the group twenty one pilots and passengers. Of course, you can vote all week long in this week's one going to rob has a website dot com slash vote. Wanda the tabulated Kurt Clark is standing by to throw out all the fraudulent votes as people cast their decision for the winner of the episode eleven one off only to one offs left in this regular season. Of course, you could listen to all thirty five of this week's tracks on our wand off soundcloud playlist available to the patrons of autism podcasts at rob has a website dot com slash patron special. Thanks to Randi, new pool for putting everything up to the sand. Cloud to Jason Curtis Rivera for making the music videos and to all the one-off superstars for lending their talents to this nonsense week after week. Great one is a great great one Duff nominal honorable mentions phenomenal up six and a lot of great stuff that didn't make it to the show. Yeah. Just stacked musically stacked. Josh hope everything is going okay for you thrones world, and you don't have to visit the Tom Atroush that would be my goal as well. But I am overdue for a visit by about two years until next time. Remember, keep your feet on the ground and keep your hands off the table. All right. Casey kasem. Thank you. He's a little too much time on the game of thrones stuff. But but a good job this week by Casey, I'm used to it. I'm used to it. Everybody thinks I wanna talk about game of thrones. To be honest with you. It's fine. Talking about gaming runs. It's fine. Trying not to be a jerk. Hey, Josh covering this theory by. My intermodal combined. I've never heard that one. Yeah. You know, I was thinking about I don't know if the books are ever coming out. I don't know. All right. All right. Josh quick to get back to work. Thank you for all your time to get into this stuff. Here's great today. Of course, you could follow everything Josh is doing over T HR at round Howard and go. Visit T HR dot com slash game of thrones. If you're looking for a game of thrones podcasting. Have you already? Have you already podcast over on series regular no series regular is going to be a little late. This week is the big battle episodes hard to do the series regular monologue. Ing that I've been doing on that podcast. I'm going to get together at Dan Feinberg. And we're gonna record something mid week. Are also going to be recording something together rather soon. We're live after the episode last night on post show recaps on the snow at all. If you wanna check that coverage out on post show, recaps a dot com. And then Josh we'll get into our game of thrones feedback show on Wednesday. So it's still time to send us your game of thrones feedback questions GIO Tia Poche, recaps dot com. And of course, so much coming up here. This week news. Af is going to be next. And then Stephen, and I will be back in our regularly scheduled Angelina did a great job filling in for. It was amazing. Oh my God. I love hearing from Angelina on the podcast. Yes. She was great. And we've got a really fun week of podcasting coming up because I've got a ghost island double decker here for you on. I'm going to be speaking with Dominic Abbad Tei and Kellyanne Bechtol one podcast. Yes, raviol-. Indeed. And I don't know that I love you talking about double Deckers. We're talking. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to get into that on Thursday night excited about all of that. And then it's a family visit and it's time for Bryce Isaiah to come in for the feedback show this weekend, so pack show Liana Boris is going to join us on this week in survivor. So lots of great stuff coming up on the pied a double decker for Liana as well. Yes. Yes. So lots lots of stuff coming up. Thank you so much to the patrons of rob has a podcast for making all this possible that basically my life that I have my family is priority number one. But then just below it is serving the patrons of rob has a podcast because they allow me to spend my life doing impressions of a woman that was on survivor for three days, and I am very grateful for that. My your. Family. You are family. Yes. On my gosh. Yes. Exciting on the spot or my brother from another mother, Josh Wrangler. Oh my God. And you to mean better than my I'm real, brother. I love you Benji. Okay. All right. Great. Great work on the podcast. Yeah. That you've done. Yes. My best friend. Who's my actual vest rent? And other than anyone else's listen to this feel is your brother listening to the end of the widow. I don't think so probably. I do love him dearly. He's of course, you are better better better men, and friend to me we have two families in this life, the family that we get in the family. We choose. I choose you choose. Yes. All right. I choose you detective Beka CHU. Yeah. My kids. They don't see that movie. They like poking around the really I'm hearing. It's great and very good polka Mina here. This is a strong Pokemon film. Yeah. It's taken them to see vendors then game. Are you know? It'd be it. Sure. Maybe we'll go through the whole MCA when they're older. Oh my God. Yeah. He's call me for that. Nobody's spoil me. Okay. All right. So Josh wake ler. Great job. Thanks for listening. Take care everybody. We'll see next time. Bye. I know that Rick is snake and unknown dog can lie that runs got facial muscles, and that's really likes to cry. Fame and conscripting. Been to foster care and Gavin times less than. I know how. All the news. Seasons. And idea to call. The freedom. Nothing. Based on nothing. Everybody is. When. Todd is headed. His show is trying. Which is refreshing. Season. Quite red com. Oh, really really go on. Based on nothing.

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Survivor 38 Episode 12 Feedback with Brice Izyah

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Survivor 38 Episode 12 Feedback with Brice Izyah

"The. Have Real Maya apartment bra has a podcast. And now, here's the guy who thinks he knows what you look in for. I am rob sister, Nina, everybody, welcome back to our feedback edition here of the survivor podcast and very excited to bring in man who has made this podcast in RH AP tradition here. He is the great recording artists. The man behind the Bryson Wendell karaoke party and helping to organize the Philadelphia K I a the purple pants that ass Mr. Bryce is area. Robert. Yes. With going on what's going on? I I usually play the freak. But I that's we're. That's it. We're tired that. Now. You can't never retire. Classic. I was waiting for my little. Okay. I can do that. I can do here. Oh, oh oh couple of. Yeah. You. Free at two. Yes. Robert, I'm not doing this. What you today? I'm not doing do you not do with me the podcast you leaving? Why why are you thinking the words? Why can't I doubt you're thinking like the Ed lives? Like that means like you like, you know. No, no the. Yeah. I'm like barrios. I was trying to be classy to die. I'm not I'm trying to keep the trying to evolve. Evolving. You are evolving. You are evolving in so many ways that used to be a Bryce is AM Johnston just price. Isaiah you just have the freak. I have what you looking for. My catalog if grow. Yes. I guess I mean, I was just more talking evolve be classy, you know, being adult like so that's best my goal for twenty nineteen. Okay. So, you know, you know, kinda they're kinda not. But. We're here. We're yes. We we lease a he I'm so happy. I'm so happy to prepping for this podcast. So many things that I know the listeners look forward to when you come back for the feedback show every season it feels like we're we've reached a real milestone in the season. I mean, yes, it's like to me is almost over like this. And I love the use of Ivor as like an I'm probably going to say this war wrong. Rommedahl desks? Right. Right. Well, it depends. What you're gonna say next. Well, okay. So let me finish that. I love the use of our as like my barometer to get through to win. I'm not. Yes. Once star I can like, hyper survivor, and they want to end this hollows summer. So I just you know, we may get a nice warm out like, you know. So just fight. I got a race coming up next week it or this weekend Sunday. So it's like literally like, I just I. Love the fall. It's not the farthest spring spring. Yeah. Spring season survivor. It starts in the dead of winter. And then it ends when you know, spring has sprung spring has sprung circle of life. Yes. What kind of race? Do you have coming up? I'm so it's my annual broad street run. It's the big Raith in Philly. It's just ten mile, but it's just so much fun. And it's just like, you know, that was like my first big race that have ever done. So this is going on my fourth year doing it is excited. Okay. But it's supposed to rain. How long is it's only ten miles. But like when I don't feel like chafing like us like a whole thing. So I'm not that excited, but I'm excited for it. Okay. Well, we're excited to talk to you. And catch up about everything that's going on in this season of survivor and Bryce I need to talk about Rick Devon's with you. And of course, we talked about his big idol play on the note all on Wednesday night. And then I had Dominic end Kellen on the pot. On one show two guests on one show. Wow. Yes. And we talked about a bunch of this stuff and a lot about how ghost island is really having an impact on season thirty eight, but I need to talk to you about Rick Devon's. Because to me Bryce, Rick Devon's has become sort of the. Rohrschack ink blot test of this season where some people in the fan base. Look at Rick Devon's. And they're saying, wow, what a character. I can't believe it. This guy is like a Christian type figure, and this guy is an underdog, and he is blowing everybody away. I love watching Rick Devon's. And then we'll let me let me this long setup price. And then I'll turn it over to you. And then I'm finding that. There are a lot of people that are saying, you know, what Rick Devon's isn't even voting for the right people. He just keeps finding an idol or an advantage. He got voted out, and he's getting too much screen time. And all these other people are making the right moves, and I'm tired of having. Rick Devon's on my TV screen. Cannot talk. Yes, please. Okay. I'm setting the stage. Okay of boom, boom, boom, boom, boom curry open. So when when you say Christian, you meant like Christian religion, or like BIC Christian ubiquity that was a question that we had on the note? Also like, oh has Rick Devon's become a universal fan favourite like Christian? I to tell Scott saint-pierre skip this question. People are going to say, hey, he's not a universal fan favourite to me. So like, I feel like I call is caused them Ricky so Ricky's character or player 'isms to me. I like I just feel like he does miss the Mark a lot of time. But for because I will be honest. I was not rooting for him to get back in the game from of extinction. I was rooting for something a little bit longer. Where he got back into the game. I was like, you know, what? Wow. This is really like embodies survivor like, you know, you don't have to be physical. You just never know. So I'm like, yeah. I'm here for Ricky Bank in the game. Right. You know, the more. We see a Ricky and shoutout Becker because you know, Becca I'll I love Verkey them bus. Don't be mad at me Ricky. But I feel like Ricky gotta temper Ricky like there's like Rick Devon's. And then there's really little Ricky. And I feel like Rick Devin is like, you know, the calm cool news reporter and in his life little Vicky or death. Our bad impression a little Ricky. But that's his crazy like irrational. Yes. Bad boy, like hair gel to the side like mouth have opened like Ricky. So it's hard to like, you know, I don't know what Ricky that. I love. Because it's like I feel like oh my God. He can win this game. He's playing great. But then are how are you just so not aware that like you? You are how you miss the Clark in Stacy's mom's cousin. Take you. Yeah. Because this might which you say he really thought I from what I seen from my TV he really thought that that was real like like, I don't care what they say. Like he believed that like he was duped again. No, I don't know. But like, I don't know how about over aqui boy. But like I just I do feel like he is the pit of me of like a survivor player. Like, you know, you don't have to be physically fit. You don't have to be the stereotypical. Like, you know, you look survivors, come all shapes sizes colors forms cre- light, you know. And I just love the fact that like he's made so far he's dominant. He almost reminds me a little bit of will from season. The dirty thirty minus will send. Yes. Like, you know, that reminds me him a little bit minus will fall in down S LA like a well that is like embracing into my head ever. But that's who he reminds me of and look how far Wilson's made it. Yeah. Wow. Okay. That was a blindside. Wasn't expecting that. Now because I was going to say that I feel like that if we're going to compare him to anybody from that season. I almost feel like that he's a kind of like the Mike Holloway where he's the person. Everybody wants out and you feel like well, okay. Well, he can't win everything. Eventually they're going to get him. But then it doesn't feel like that any of the other characters that we've seen a lot of them to make you feel like that. They're going to be the winner of the season. Right. Well, I don't know the person that you just named. I don't I don't really know who that is hard for me to speak on that. But I get what you're saying. Because it's like you kinda sorta want him to root for him. And I'm confused as to why they are allowing him to stay in the game so law because it's like outlet, you know, but again, I just had this theory with like hundred first of all I keep calling ghost island. I keep calling. David versus Goliath edge of extinction life. If I were a player that has not gone to extinction. First of all anybody who has been on edge of extinction, yoga yoga, hind Gusta. Go open the door and send them back because I playing with it because they have connections with people on edge of extinction. And since everybody. Okay, man, real quick. Sorry, Robert because you know, this season brings out a lot of emotions for me. Because now everybody gets voted off is on the jewelry. So it I was on. I will be on a jury right now. No, I'm not mob with Ponderosa, but he will brief rice said a seven six five four three two one nine eight seven six five four three two. Okay. I'm back. Sorry. Because I you know, I just wanted to be on the jewelry just wanted to make. I just wanted to have Shia pain and cooked eggs on the Griddle. Yeah. Getting greedy. I mean. Okay. Maybe not as on the grill. But I just wanted to lose champagne, but like so everybody, essentially, I should get voted out is a jury member I wouldn't want anybody that has had contact with the jewelry lie on that island said be sitting next to me and the end because if I clearly the jewelry is scorned in may and they wanna like both. He got the go. If I'm Aurora, and I'm Mr Clark, I'm Victoria, theories leahey's on Hayes on the first train smoking bans that eyelid. And like I just because it's like I just feel like anybody that has been on edge of extinction. Like if they make the final three if they won't do a final two, you might as well just hand check because they're not gonna vote for anybody. That's been in the game the whole time, or at least I will in as jury member. If I could have been a joy Kagi since I was loaded on unit. Oh, yeah. You make a really good point. Because if it was like a reward where like all right this time. This reward is a little bit different. Whoever wins this challenge. They're going to get the spend the afternoon with the jury whatever they wanna talk about make your case that you're gonna have a chance if you're sitting there in the final three it would be like, oh my God. What a huge reward wouldn't use your word to get a chance to talk to the jury. Whereas you earn the final three. What do you have ten minutes sort of like a little bit of talking time? You exactly like, they know your story but sides side, no one how to Casey case star hosted survive. That's that's Jeff describing reward voice sounded like it was ready for. Yeah. That's how he talks when he describes like we've got coleslaw Terry or ship. And how about? Fried. Why he had to say the fried chicken? Like that though. I was like what what? Okay. Sorry. I'm getting off topic. Right. Yeah. I just I don't be ready for what you say. Yeah. But I agree. It's like literally is like when you're on age of extinction. It's like literally you your final coach to the jewelry. But for days on end. Yeah. You know, if you make a good with green child, they might as well just hand you the money. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I hope that some of the people that get to the final three. I hope there are people that she really wants to chew out. Nobody else might get a chance to ask a question. She going to be up there way to Seki. She. Yeah. All right. So yeah. Big advantage for whoever comes back from the extinction. The Rick Devon thing is just is so interesting because it's just sort of like that he's an underdog to the viewer Brian a lot of ways, but to the person with sort of like, the, you know, maybe a little bit more of the trained. I is saying like it feels like that Rick Devon's going to the end feels like a very likely scenario. So he's not an underdog. I'm rooting against him now. But I. Right. Exactly. And again like from the physical parents him. You know him, you know, take, you know, take a look, you know, we look to him. He was sweating. He sweat like, you know. Yes. Day day thirty he's got the data by but. That's all right. But like, right. Like, he just was underdog. But I think the difference is that like he's a underdog physically, but I feel like strategic Li like, you know, he knows what it takes he watches enough survivor to know like to know what you need to do to have it. So like, you know again, and he's also playing a game. Like nobody else is playing out there. So it makes them stand out. So you know, I I wish the best for little Ricky. Yeah. He also has voted incorrectly. I think more of these votes than than he has voted correctly. At least since he's come back into the game. But listen that could be a strategy though. Like, listen don't vote for who they vote in out because then they're going to vote for you for a million dollars. So I'm here for. Yeah. Okay. Well, let me ask you about that. Because that's one of the voicemail questions that I have for you. Okay. So let me queue up this voicemail, and this is from Sarah in San Francisco. Hi, rob, Sarah from San Francisco here, if you've been checking out read it or Twitter in the last few days, I'm sure you'll see that Rick's been getting a lot of heat for being on the wrong side of the vote. But don't you think that the reason that the jury loves who so much is because he hasn't actually voted for any of them. Maybe being on the wrong side of the vote could be an actual strategy to win over the jury in the end would love to hear your thoughts. Sending all my love to you. Am bryce. Nobody is walking out of there. Mad at Rick. Devon's maybe Julia that he was the one that sort of turned around. But she seemed much happier that Ron Clark was going home this week. Athol like we see more of Julia in the jewelry. Hurry action tonight. Then we see the whole seething. Like, I mean, it was like you could relive you could see her like I mean, I'm like like my micro like their, hey, MS Carter. Yes. I couldn't understand that. But I agree like again. Well, first of all Nafir nothing missed the clock. He playing a damn good game. I can't even mad at him. I thought he was a really sharp out there for rail. But again, that's what they always say. Because I don't know. But that's what I hear people say you can't let your guard down when you get comfortable day twenty eight twenty nine thirty life. You get comfortable you, listen, you're not the Queen out there cysts. You gotta you gotta still be humble you have to be in the dark rat the army. You can't just be sitting on. I n thrown says the threat key army that not the darker dark. Not the doctor at the authority also. They're holding up a little bit better child who data data Raqi army tortures put out to. Yes. Who weekly to and soda, Iran. So no, that's an appropriate round was dark were anti-army. Okay. His flame lit up. He went out there running who. No, you see him running back and re or all breeds arms extinction. All right. So Rick Devon's has got this game figured out here in survivor thirty eight here's what you do you go you hang out with the jury. You can come back in you don't vote anybody out. And then you also make big show type moves at the tribal council. Entertain everybody getting excited. Get the whole jury pumped up play to the crowd and. Get your check. So that's why I disagree a little bit. I feel like where that that was low Ricky Lil Rick low Ricky, Rick Rick. I don't know what other names we call low rich it that's where he messed up was that tribal to the actual because. Like, the I, you know, me I lived. The whole time. But thinking back in retrospect, like now what you're doing though is like you're making the other people that are there not be like, you know, what he can't win. Let's keep them around. Now. They're like you're putting enemy number one on your back because it's like you're pandering to the jewelry most see what you're doing. And my you trying to play us nail. And then I got. For a TV watcher would why he was like sun Kona. Our shook I was and then you see my girl. Kelly would be like, oh, I'm like, oh my God. Like like, I was. Wow, I'm thinking. Wow. But then to only kind of know that he's doing they're a kind of like make them feel dumb. And then be like Patine. Title. Like I felt like I just felt like that was a little like now they realize like. He like why would I want us to next to him? This is the type of the actress that he can give given final like I just felt like that was a tab it too much just for the people remaining because if you don't win immunity, Honey baby goo. Get call the train because you own the first thing small in. If you're those other players that actually did vote out. Ron and Rick Devon's tried to vote out Aurora. I think that it's sort of like one of these like inspector gadget type episodes where inspector gadget is doing the wrong thing. But then at the end of the day like well-done gadget, right? You've done it again. Great work when it was really penny and the dog everything Hello. If I remember correctly. When is the gadget was stuff like falling out of his life. I don't know what it is. Like, I remember him my opening TransCo and things like falling out. Title. Rickie? No, he is inspector. Gadget. So who is who would be penny probably, Victoria. Okay. And who would be Grover? I think brain was the dog's name. About our member. Okay. Who would be brain who don't not Gavin? He does not like being talked to like a dog Chow get gab this. I I'm gonna say probably get only reason why. Gavin as Rover is because what I've realized watching the season Gavin has shoe faces. One is. Scooby doo voice and other. Like, I mean, literally literally was like don't get me wrong. I love me some gator. But I'm you. Got to like like did he get both talks before he went out there because Hedo his spatial brushing do not move. He play poker as you would never get a less his girl for coming out there because you can find out why who. So sorry Pala jazz. His wife. Not even feel say his why like only how we see that was when I realized I'm like, oh my God way. Gavin can make facial with brusher 'cause every other time he's like soul Blanc, which is why like he's made it so far in a game. But yeah, so Gavin is Rover or no what if it brain. Brain brain Gavin is the brain is, Victoria, okay. On this subject. Let's take this mail from Wando high. Rob this is Wando American Pat living in Thurber. And here's my question. Obviously, Rick Devon's had such a funny cool tribal council. The jury was loving it. Even when Ron left he was like, you're good player, record, whatever. And if I was Victoria or Warren, I would have been so annoyed that Rick was like really hamming it up to the point where it seemed like it was his move or something. Too blind signed, rob Ron, and I'm just kind of thinking what can the non flashy players do to make sure that they leave the tribal council feeling like they got some credit or they're acknowledged like should they kind of throw Rick under the bus and be like good job, Rick. But you didn't even vote the right way in this vote. I mean, what can they do? Is there anything that those players could have done at the tribal council Bryce to it? Could they say you didn't even vote for him? You still think you will lose their? No, no, no. So if that's a great point that Wando said I feel like a lot of the issues with this season. Is that like you have a lot of players that are doing a lot of things behind scene, but they don't speak up about it. And then you got a lot of players like Rick deadens and war dog who are like their game style leads to the theatrics. So it's five, but then again, if you're Victoria and the other girl, like, do you really wanna exposure hands of other people that are out there? Right. And like, you know what I mean? So it's like kind of thing. So I actually feel like Ricky did them a favor by taking the credit because this that's fine. You can have this edit 'cause we know what happens behind Cam. And then ultimately like I want Rick the win. But I I don't really see for him. So I feel like with. It almost like a gift and occurs because this year hill think that he's riding high and and moving forward, and clearly we know he's on the wrong side of the vote almost every time. So it's easy for us to take him out. So I feel like it's better for them just to be quiet and kind of like, let him think that he's running or let him think that he flying the plane, but really like, we know what's going on in my opinion. But again, you can't really take what assay so much too far because I'm not on the jewelry. I then, you know. So, but I feel like, you know, yes, let him take this show because like alternately you still have how many other people out there six there are five other people still in the game five. So like, right. So you got other people that necessarily didn't vote for you or vote with you that you can kind of still use me. I will be Victoria about the situation and be quiet. Yeah. It's interesting that survivor, it's like life. It doesn't matter who is playing. Best game. It's who has the best marketing, and who has the best branding with the jury. So say it again. Okay. Yes. Yeah. That's the truth is like real life. It's just a Rick as done a lot better. With the presentation of what he's doing. Then these other players who are playing probably better games than he is. Right. And then like again, I take it back to that statement that he said about his dad, I mean, not about his dad about his son like that's going to resume with those people out there on exile. I mean, go style. Edge of extinction fiction that's going to resonate with them. And like that to me that was probably the smartest thing that he could have done because like like ape like look at them trying to play him as still overcame like child that was lie. So he's saying all the right things. But yeah, he got to go. If I'm if I'm other five people like he can't win. We won't put gabbing to watch him. He not getting no other idols, and he's got to go home. Okay. Speaking of who has the best marketing, let me take a moment. Thank one of our sponsors here today, and those are friends over at dole Bryce who doesn't love a tasty smoothie in the morning. 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Should talk about the loved ones coming to visit the survivors here at the fix. Four three to eight seven. Four. Let me play a question for you. And this is a question that comes to us from Victoria from Baltimore grain. I wrapping grain from Baltimore once trying to come up with a more serious question. But I really just wanna know who prices favorite loved one. Okay. Soleil. Yes. It's the whole. I mean it. Let's listen. Let me ask you this question. Real quick rob flag. It's it is. This y'all all was they went. Had you ever heard of the term dill rabbit until? I think I know what that means. Yeah. Chad they said to call it the loved one visit. They should've called their Bryce dill list. Okay. At listen because you know, listen like I said earlier, I'm trying to be more refined. Be bore class. Okay. And I think the way to go is to give me somebody go get, you know, instead of making these calendars. I just need to go on and get me my own Zadie. And the riot e bay bay. Through the roof. Now. Less. Just talk about you know, the loved one. Visit first of all, you know, there's there's certain milestone is way isn't milestones or. That's right. Milestones. Right. Well, I guess it depends. What you're gonna say. You know, what robber you way because you try play me so survivor. There are certain milestones. I feel like I'm saying, right? But that like, you know, I always excited for one is the merge fees. You. Get low most, but like the merge fees, and then a family visit and that always gets me emotional. So like, I'll cores the most e motion. Oh, one for me had to be given his not girlfriend, not the onset, but why for two days before he left her like, you know, obvious Maga like, you know, I love their. But who Chile when miss the Clark say, hey, like, no Crema his coffee. He likes his coffee black hole. Mr. clog, I see coming. Well, Jeff, this was Jeff Jeff introducing Lloyd on get your husband. Here. Loyd come on out. We'll see who married you. Let's see who married you Jeff. Yes. I wasn't expecting that. I know miss. So yet missed the clock has my cousin y'all. We. But so yes, Loy Loy baby. Like, but you know, as I said before I'm trying to be more classier more reserve. So in my opinion, relayed is a baby. So you know, a good looking baby of age. But you know that death. You know, my mama's in, you know, wait now, I'm not a cougar. So I don't know. But no, okay. But yeah. So, you know, we leave Loy to the side we won't put him right on to the side who. The my den when I was like, you know. I just think about this. Who? And then when it, you know, they started that within I was confused like Jeff saying bring out show dad or bring his Eddie because I mean here, but who knows that it was Tuesday as their sorry. My mouth is watering. I'm sorry authority. But what's the girl was the Brown headed girl named Lauren who was her daddy named Joey? Joey. When that saw me some Joe each I just the guy just think of all of the pizza store that we open again. Jobe pizza stores. Okay. I'm wrapped up in Joey's arms, and we sell some Sicily, paints them, Laurie K. Maybe that's what she whispered in Zere think. So she said don't sell price about the pizza. But who I didn't I say, okay, Lauren, which shows Zadie? Yeah. I was surprised Joe. You could come give me a bear hug like that. Anytime you what? Philadelphia could drop my location now. Okay. Who there is he from? I don't know. I don't I I wanna say New York, New jersey, one of those places. I don't know or in my mind. I hope that's where they from. Okay. But yes, hey, Joe, we, but you know, so we got Loyd to decide. Hey, we got Joey to decide but. Who who who baby right now? I think I need to be keep so well and take a nap. On exile island because. Come on. Baby. When Jeffrey toll KU smell with cooking to come on out. K the way my eyes footer baby. Victoria. I don't know if you know, but I'm your stepmother currently right now. I'll see you at thanksgiving. I'm making the Turkey rock baby. The dill award goes to the rock Akkas, man. I wanna smell to rockets cooking. Okay. Smells like book spray. Rub. It on me. Rub. It on me. Lot. More dog was Rick death. I know why are you got seven brothers sisters? Okay. Because I I was like literally like I could not believe my eyes when the rock K more out then who. Tonight. He's seventy four. Because lesson. Is a literally it's where your step mom. Okay. Okay. Mama. Cub bear mode now. 'cause now protective of Victoria, because I am like when I see I saw my car rock. Look, so good. I said let me just tweets up. Now, you're not sweet like is it may or is the daddies looking lie Zadie. No. What kind of response to that? I got a great response. So I went to sleep woke up. I'm look, you know, you just do little Peru's where you wake up and shell g you know, DOE rocked and life comet. I'm engaged. Wow. I said, oh, okay. Let me find out rock. Yeah. Wow. Yes. So listen dill dill alert. Honey, it was nothing but death out there wants VAR. And again, you know, I don't know what it's like to bring a loved one out there. So I live. Vacariou sleet, or by carry Asli through that CV. Yes by. Hey rock. Okay. Well, okay. So curious dad made a real impression on you guys? Okay. Wow. All right. I was surprised lifted. Let me get some deep. Right. Let me get on Amazon or to meet some deep some spray. Yes. She said to her dad you smell so good. And then Gavin's wife said this to him. Thanks. Yeah. Smell bad. See all been married two days. So she no game has been going girl. You smell what the rock is cooking. Which girlfriend which who? Okay. All right. I liked it when go back to Lloyd that Iran wanted Loyd to check out his facial hair. Check out the checkout this beard. What do you think of this facial you like it? Kick, my friend. You like. Miss that is toque. He's fraying. I'm afraid Loy. Need all my friends? Rickie Roro dash. Oh, no. You can't see. Julia. She'll she this. And if you're watching this season, you wouldn't see either. Komo halo. Halo. Yes. My. So they went on the reward. Did you like the picks that Ron made for who she gets to go on the reward? I did. And I did not like I feel like again in my in my mind, the Bryce fat has played and made it this far. I always feel like you bring your closest ally. And then you bring the person that's most least expecting to calm. So I felt like he did a disservice to them. So I really feel like what child if I was him. I would have I would it's been on my Lloyd too. But I felt like he should have been a little more political. I felt like that's what sent them home. Yeah. Also what I've noticed in this season or this particular show awful Ricky done to challenge. I felt like Rick was he ain't gonna pick me. So listen Becker. We're not even gonna pretend this challenge. What you doing? How the kids everything going? No way. I'm getting picked the smart move. You never know. I was just like Rick freely love Becker. Because in granted. So this is where I can give my expertise at because challenge that I went home was a bucket throwing champ. Yeah. So remember tasha getting everybody practicing? Yes. And Eljay got me together. Because you know, he worked with the horses in a barn and lives in a barn too. So he was like telling me like the thing about it is it's like you gotta go under. Hey underwood. But you gotta like you have to go under and throw it up. But you can't like just. Fro the water and your wife's face. My bring Evans did countless times. Like, you know, you got go goal and like lobbying up so that like all of the water comes out together. So, but it didn't really help. 'cause we lost a challenge in our home. You know, I know something about their channels. But yes, I was like, oh my God Ricky is just throwing water on his wife, and it just sit in talking. But I mean, hey, that's like smart. If my mom came out there, and I was like this physical trailers and first of all I can say right now, my mom wouldn't have been for that challenge. Because my mom's a African American woman of a certain age as she won't play about get her hair. Wet shoot have been like Jeff stop to. Because I come all the way out to the Amazon for you ought to wet these curls. So me, and my mom would have been sitting on the side talk in you would've been talked through. Rick davis. Yes. So you would not have made the same mistake that Ron Clark made that you you would have picked Victoria's dad and Lawrence dad, go on that reward with you. Yes. Yes. Well, so I was Rick. I'm not I was missed the Clark. I probably would have picked Gavin because I just felt like that's the emotional route. Then I probably would have picked either the Turia or I would have Joey or Dirac Morica stay. I would have just picked them. But yeah, I just felt like he should have diversified. And Julie like your closest ally and Gavin somebody that you've been close with my you're just asking go home as the Clark like I just felt like and again when you get that comfortable from what I see in the game, you make these little small errors that like you cannot like you have to be so conscious, and I feel like for the last I five seasons people during this time are super diplomatic about it. Like, generally, you bring somebody that you're not close with at all like us for a lease. Because it's like this is like the big moment like your family like so I just felt like that was the slip of the tongue. But not the tongue. Green slip a black all day long. Hey, cousin Lloyd. That was a slip Loy. But I mean child by by Loic out there for me out of outta made all the wrong decisions to hear him. But like he should have been a little more diplomatic. When Ron went on the reward with Lloyd that he wanted to tell Lloyd about everything that was going on in the game. And this is a clip of Ron on the reward this week. Is the best of all live till Loyd. I did this. I did that. And he kept saying to me do what you gotta do when this game. That was the best moment of Ron Clark's life. When he told Lloyd about the game at me, listen when you got somebody like Loy or ready won't you'll side. I mean, that's the best part of your life. But yes, I was looking at that like Mr Clark were you talking about you like usually talking crazy you'd need the focus back on the game. And again, but again, and retrospect or seriousness and retrospect like washing their back like I could literally see the comfort of -bility of Mr Clark. And like, you know, he kinda was like Mickey was he thought he was beyond saying this was homecoming baby. No, no. No. Yeah. Yeah. More light Taylor say boy, like Taylor swift at the AMA's of. But yes, like, yeah. I just I could see that. He was just so comfortable, and it's just crazy. Because this by you watch these people who watched the show with -vivor, and it's like you you should never get that comfortable. And then it's like they all get comfortable hard not to on that family reward. Ooh. On not to watch rock. Yeah. Look at baby. This was the right decision. Maybe lloyd. We'd get mad if Iraq and Joey were if it was you may be. Yeah. But listen distracted feed them grapes. Sabah Jeff, where's the money from that challenge last week? Okay. Let's see. Oh, julie. Anything to say about early laughing crying. Hey, Julie husband CHAI. He was he was coming for Gavin's pineapples. I'll tell you that what he apple shirt paid and have a pineapple shirt. But he had a floral esque shirt coming on out there trying to compete with old gave him boy. But you Gavin kept his polka face on. So he couldn't tell okay. But. Yeah didn't. Hey, Julie husband. Okay. All right. Let me ask you this question from Mike Hermes wants to know. Can we have a follow up analysis on how well his preseason. Cast photo predictions are going Bryce, do you. Remember who you predicted of the winner of this season based on the cast photo as do, and I feel like my winter prediction is still in the game yet. Hey, Gavin Nathen nothing robber. After like, my ISSA, look assess. -ment is kind of like spy on a little bit. So far so good right there. I thought that was a shady, right? No. Like I felt like at me. Listen, I I see a thing or two, but what I feel like the own. My only twist is is that like, I didn't know the twist of age of extinction. So I feel like that throws a curve ball at me. So like, that's my only thing, but I feel like other than their that people oppor dicta do well are doing well, I predicted that Joey England would be on ghost island. He's there. So I mean, I don't know. I feel like I can't remember word for word. But the one thing that I did onto estimate on my is a look is the greatness of mothering. Okay. I I I don't know. Why I didn't think that she would be giving me all it is goodness. But that's probably like, you know, where I should have looked a little further into that haircut. But I did. Yeah. Yeah. She has been great. She welcomed the Mr Clark to the edge of extinction. This week. Thing about it really have lottery money of log game for everybody. She is a really like taken with Ron Clark guests. But did she hit him with a the game that I hear? Run it sick game. Don't worry about anything. People take this too. Seriously, seem Italy. You know, what my sight ward on with you liar liar law Kelly here. Kelly get about the time girl. Chris put them hot dogs on a fire. Yeah. Reema has been so much fun. Bryce, she's literally like the house mother. She take her by herb herb, I come to her house. She gets just no rim. How herb I gets care. Okay. Let me bring in another question for you. And we're talking about Gavin potentially being your winner, pick Graham from the bay has a question for you about his winner pick right now, here's Graham from the bay Graham. Hey, oh, rob, yo and Bryce grant from the bay rob you brought up on know, it alls that you feel that Devon's is somehow going to make it to the end, and you don't necessarily feel the same way about Victoria. I want to challenge that notion a little bit. And I'm not saying this is an exact comparison. But I feel like it can apply to Victoria, and a little bit of Lauren as well where I feel like it somewhat similar to shell in Qoraan where I feel like Lauren is we're seeing more of her in the edit, but she doesn't seem as big of a part of the overall story. Like Michelle and with the toria similar to Michelle she sort of under edited, but Victoria has had more outwardly strategic moves in the game. And I also feel like that this season is the first one in a while where there is no one particular player that the viewer can look at and say that person's definitely gonna win the game. Like there is no Cochran or Kim spread Lynn or Boston. Rob. I feel like this season is sort of similar to good bone or a Nicaragua. Where most of it's been such a train wreck that kind of hard for the viewer to form a strong opinion on who's going win the game because we're not really seeing from one person's perspective. So to get your thoughts on that of comparing this season those to pass seasons, and maybe the idea of Victoria, or Lauren making a FitzGerald esque run. Thanks dudes. What do you think about this? Wide open. Unlike me, yes, is that everybody has a shot so win this thing. This is so weird. I feel like what's his name dry from nebr-? Graham from the bay ramp from the Bay, I literally Jitka she our correspondent she'd like like, she loves the Email. She emailed me. And was like I feel like Lauren is Michelle Fitch Jarrell. And I was like I completely agree with that assessment. July follows the show so closely Maja jets he is like like, she got Chilean's she moved. And so like she liked binge watches at night. And so like, I guess you like binge watch the last four episodes because one morning I woke up to like sixteen Email from her and the like these are literally like like two three four five. And then the girl had the nerve text me at eight o'clock in the morning talk about I didn't get a response girl. I'm flee. She has some good insight, and I felt like I agree with her in aspect of Lawrence, Michelle FitzGerald, because I'll be honest, although I love Fizi when I watch FitzGerald season. I didn't see her as the winner. Like, I was like a lot of the time. I grow would is she doing like what like what is she doing to win? I just felt like she was like surviving by, but you know, any winner of survivor is a legitimate winners. So yes, I'll take that. So absolutely see. But listen, I would I agree with from the bay. I feel like there is I feel like my six cents you not like when I drink my southern pecan. And I get a little thing thing thing thing thing, I can like I get a feeling of who is the winner of this season. And I feel like I don't have that yet because it's like Xiao. I'm emailing indeed dot com, and these resumes are not coming. Back there like they are coming back blank. They come back saying like check your son thinks you're a loser. Like, that's what they're coming back. So like, I'm like these people in the game, I'm just by earth. So I again, it just has me questioning has hasn't back to my original theory, like if somebody from exile. It's the day goes now somebody from edge of extinction like makes a run for re and can come back. I feel like that's the spice of this season. But I understand how likely it is. Because first of all if I'm playing and somebody from goes comes back you going right back to goes eyelid like the first like you come back. Same day you on a one way flight bag. So I understand how unlikely it is. But I'm just feeling like I don't get the sense of a winner. Edit from anybody and the closest person to a winner edit that we have is gabbing, and I feel like and as much as I love Lord knows how to gab it. But like, I don't like I'm asking for your resume, and it's not coming up. Like you've been quiet. You've been SU like in straight down the line. Like, you ain't curvy enough for me. You not like like, I just like Gavin is playing two straight Gavin is like a Nicklaus and. Adam Klein been there done that. No. Thank you run. Here you go RAB all trying to make me feel bad. Yes. I know they want and I seem very excited about this podcast on your. Lucy's so cyborg because now you gotta be five bar heed sweetest of the day. And I was like let me just go to nNcholas profile and when I pulled up his abbey efforts. Yes, I'm like, Nick, listen what you looking for. What is it? I don't know. But everybody is listed go to like Kyi underscored Nikki and look at his like, what are you looking at what you're looking for his picture? It's like he's like he's got like his handovers is. And he's looking off the right? What you're looking for. I don't know because I can't find clearly you can't find them either. John hazel. Oh, yes. And Maja me and debut going fight because Davey told me we was coming to Philly. Hayes those common. Hey, come in. I'm like, what is it a E L Assan because we're she. She didn't come. But. Sorry, Beck's original thaw. Like, yeah, I just I'm like, I don't see. And so like the only other person that I thought is big toria. But how? Not devon. Now, I love Ricky. But he like after that display last night or Wednesday. Like, he's the Choo choos. Chuck, Chuck, Chuck circa chewed choose to this is the train of the first thing smoking because that's where he's going like after that display. Absolutely. He's a done deal going there. But so in my mind, he's out. So I'm just thinking of everybody else's that left is Gavin Nick Horia chat, Victoria, Emma? I'm like, listen. She Email, I call it the customer service. You know, if you like to speak to a operator press zero, you know, operator Gaza, my own a phone and indeed. And I'm like just I understand you can't print me out the resume right now. But can you just run down some things about Victoria, real quick to me and references? I call her reference didn't call the references badges called the customer service lie and they said the hat smell. Like a wet dog. Not bug spray bugs right that has like a wet dog. But what they did rundown. Me was Victoria has been successful and flipping the vote and has been successful being on the right side of the vote. N Victoria has been successful with people coming to her with information. So I'm like, well, listen, we got how many episodes tumor episodes left? One more in the finale. So I'm like things could go Victoria's way. But the little Ricky in me is thinking everyone else in their knows the pivotal role that Victoria's been playing so she won't need to be on the first thing the second thing smoke in where Ricky too, so I don't know. And then child you got stacey's cousin Julie who I feel like she like she's on the right side of the boat. But I just feel like girl you've been a motion about everything you've been left out a plenty of votes. But you know, you play it off like. It's okay. I know you got what you gotta do have what we do. Now. Like, no girl of either be you leave me out of the bow. Prob blow. Yeah. But I can't even be mad at her. Because it's like she's better than me. You gotta play it off like has. I understand you gotta do. But you gotta do but who's going home tonight? So I met at that. I'm just like. Voice. Voice Julie Stacy's causing but I like. Does that love Julie would not be here for winning survivor? Okay. I just I like the is not enough content for me. But let me be quiet because I pay Joliet. Still love you girl. Okay. What about Aurora? Now that is my unexpected girl. Now, don't take this devolved way. But don't it. Look like. Are you telling me Aurora wrong? Everybody. But don't it. Look like a row with. Hike on a little rascals machine. Jonker? She looks like a kind of like she seems to like have like more dirt on her than the Essenes. I feel like a rower could change to Omar car smart doorbell. Frat me, some chicken. Compla- DVD and run a marathon all in the same day. I just feel like. Yes. After Aurora is the sheet a garage, she she my best friend. I also feel like if I got into a fight. I'm calling my girl Aurora. Right. I just feel like she's a Jack. She's a Jack in of all trades. Yeah. And I didn't see enough of her. I have to admit I prejudge raw a little bit. In the beginning. I'm like girl. This girl is passed out on the floor, and she is making negotiation the more, I see Rura the more. I have to fall in love with her. And I just this. I mean, I didn't now this I won't be mad of row run. Did you hear I will be mad at or y? Yeah. Guys, Nafir nothing. She's somewhat been on the bottom. She somewhat been like a free agent, and I feel like she's like survived in this game. And I mean, you know, other than being a lit- to our word going through people stuff. Like, I I completely forgot about Aurora. I even met him. I grow word. John how you just go to somebody bag. It'd be like no, no Addo Keer at me. I went to. But I don't care excuse me. This you was in my. Yeah. You would not play with that Bryce I wouldn't be about the play play because I would have to that. No. You say what would you say? If you came back in Aurora was in your bag. I'll go through well, go pack a boat. Rura sit in the corner, the actor goes island and get ring. Listen, theorists -ly. Listen, listen to you, just go through my bag. Bags screw you. Get your filthy hands out of my bag. I will drop kick you. I bet you did you go to our, bro. Turk Q believes key by chapstick. Oh, you wouldn't chopstick? You had it. We share it. Shapes the guy just to get big. And I'll key. My little. Hey, guys, lo truck or. Trigger? You know, play with what to be a truck driver with his win. So when asked me what could I put this black took ahead on? Robert. But you know, again with what is. Gavin was something like this. Should stay bag. Getting off. Like that. I mean. Oh bag. Thanks for the compliment. Come on. God. Are you are you Rick Devon's down? Do you wanna take another brick? Devon's question. I wasn't ready for that. I really. Like when I turned around on the show, you ran the glasses. Do you do that? Again, do do have again appreciate if you don't. Not moving your face when you say. All right. Let's listen filthy filthy wants to talk about RIC. Devon's Robin, Bryce, it's your boy filty from Canadia coming at you. With a Rick Devon's inquiries. So basically Rick has lived wowing enough to become the villain at this point where the fans like really liked him. If I, but it seems like. He hasn't really done anything malicious or wrong to sort of warrant any. Hey, but people are sick of him. Is there any way to counteract that kind of backlash or do? You just have to roll with what happens with your portrayal on the show because like I feel like he's getting a lot of unwarranted. Like, he. He's a nice, man. Everyone needs to calm down. Okay. I don't know. I get it. I mean, I feel empathy because I am somebody who uses a lot of stick in my real life. So I just wanna I just want everyone to love me. And I want everyone to love Rick Devon's. Okay. So this is what it's all about goodbye. I don't know if this is even a question. Is there anything that? Rick Devon's can do to get people back on board who are feel like he's getting too much airtime. I mean, he doesn't edit the show, right? He can't he can't. I just laughing because I felt like did you pick this personal purpose because I felt like headed Gavin F O having esque I haven't heard that about Phil T, but no, I absolutely light. So again, I don't see in Ricky's cards. But listen Rick could get back. Be quiet and you were at the final two episodes a whole volcano is about to rump. Because at the end of the day who you said was your final four, and you have final five like all of that despot to give blown up. So if Ricky can play his cards, right like he could sit back from it. And like be somebody. That's like, listen, I'm vote whatever you need. Let me know. But I don't know if he can do that. Because I also feel like at the same time that Rick has gotten take. Of like, you know that performance that he was getting. And I think if the dictating, and I think that he's going to want to nail be like, you know, this is what they want like, you know, you can always kind of feel that. But absolutely I feel like Rick Everett kind of came back. Pulled the woo. Woo. A woo. Yeah. Very woo. Y'all y'all really do much? You just like, you know, hang out, and you know, if he came on another season or if he got voted out and then came back into the game. K back and voted out another time like just, you know, I feel like shutout, but like, you know, five years ago, you tell them my age, rob. Let them by a. The last time I was on this show. It was fifteen years ago. Bryce, oh Chile. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, we'll tell them my age window does every time. We'd like meet survivor fans. It's bryce. You remember that far back? Yeah. Who he's he's older than you though. Right there much older than me. He's my elder. My eighty way enough about when DC. Yes. I feel like Rick can be quiet. Just like like I felt like woo felt like he was doing a lot in the game. And I'm like, you know, again, I don't have ever told you the story. This is. Deed? Did I ever tell you like the uncomfortable story about woo like an Mileit tribal like our finale, I think would or he won. Oh, like lifted like liberal quick out your stories for days. So we all in like we're like they bring the cast. They get there. And like, you know, we're all everybody's like huddling together like getting food watcher and child. Woo come out like movie star and he likes sits on like the edge not of extinction. But the as the couch by himself, and like we have we're like forced to watch the episode take out there. My at this point ACA care less like I'd like wh where two fried chicken. But like, I'm serious. We've got chips Silva. Chick you about the Carter coal because I'm not going to do. This rap. Of the show because I just we just tried to get me to scream. Fried chicken seriously. Skills. Now seriously theory seriously about about to start coffee. Coughing. No seriously. We was we like we. Ghettos like why skewed but okay, seriously? He like he just came out there like a little to school too cool for school. And when he like the EPA started episodes started unfolding. Like. His position on the out. Like literally change to like fetal position with the weird. Like, it was almost uncomfortable and like Tristesse life, you'd think somebody should go over there with foam. Because I mean, seriously like he came out like, very cocky, and very like, I got Lamborghini, Al Fateh about the put a down payment on and by like the last like thirty seconds when they was like getting us ready, and like Mike Inglis up will not making me up because I was like urge hop was out there. But he was like I mean, literally like he was like in the fetal position why it was like a little uncomfortable. And it's just like, you a note hold on that you. But anyway. Close. The only got one vote, right? But I think and don't get me wrong. I love. Woo. At just think that he thought his game as like Robin was going to like come out a little bit stronger than Batman. But yeah, like just it was like a little bit uncomfortable. I know if I had goes impossible did Tony not think that he won is it possible that that he thought that he was gonna lose chat? I don't know because our reunion. Our reunion chop. Tony had the Tony T shirts. So I don't know if only thought that he was going to lose 'cause Tony had a whole entourage with them. Yeah. And t shirts, so I don't know. But I just was it was like, oh my God. We'll like, you know. But so it was we are looking at Tony to see like, we're Tony was there, and Tony again, everybody like, you know, was huddled up like Trish, Sarah me. Cliff? Max is I we all like, you know, and like who's to his back off to the side like in the front of the TV and like Tony's kind of bike to the back a little bit. So it was kind of weird. And I I don't know. But so I just feel like he did a little bit more than like, you know, who did. So I just feel like again, I see a lot of like the similarities of Rick Devon's with. Woo. But I just don't know if Rick Devon's Kapoor out, although me, personally, I would love to see a Rick Devon's win. But I just I like how far we are left in the game. I just don't see it. Yeah. That was a great story about. Woo. I had no idea that that was the thing. But don't don't tell. Nobody told you. Okay. All right. We still have a lot to get to here with Bryce so you don't have anywhere to go, right? Not at all good. All right. Well, let me take a moment. And thank another sponsor here today, and those are friends over at cheers, health dot com and Bryce listen up because you're going to like this cheers offers a solution to a universal problem. It works like an antacid for alcohol. Cheers, neutralizes, alcohol's negative effects. 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Cheers, simply take two to four capsules after your last alcohol beverage or before you go to bed. If you don't wake up feeling at least fifty percent better. The next day, you'll get your money back guaranteed. All right price. I got this question from a lot of the listeners that they wanted you to wake in on this guy to ask a couple of different ways. But I thought that this one was the sweetest at of the voicemails that we got. So let me play from Karen from the love you bay area. High rayson rob this is Karen from the levee bay area. I'm so excited about this show, and I had a little bit of history that possibly. My own key self is the only person who cares about. But in case you do too. Now, you have the choice. So a couple years ago on the same historic podcast in which Bright's I called more and daughter, you also called me niece which made me so happy because he liked my message. I asked that freaky is free question on that call. And then the last time that you were on I asked a different question, and rob turned it into the for us free question, which made me happy. So that's two other less times. And so all that to say my question, this time is who is the freaky? It's week this season. I love to know of the whole season and also to know of who's left Bryce furniture, and you tell us. Who is this season's freaky issed freak? Come on come on come on. Boom. Book three. Three. On the. Okay. First of all out. Hey, this give a shout out to my niece, e PU hey niece. Yes. Okay. That's Karen from the love you bay area. And Bryce in the fall, it will be five years since nine became the first freaky is tree. You just love to just make meet load of RAB like I don't not trying to make you older. But I'm just. That I feel like that what we have done that over all all of this time that I think is been a huge part of the history of rob. As a podcast is. You know, the gaze led to get a motion aroused, I'll get a motion of which you know, I can't even fathom to think that that was five years ago and. I just you know, because this every time I see you all we pull you close that guy gave you an emotional like, you know, moment, but I feel like I just wanna say something to you in the not just like, I generally am like so appreciative of the love that you show me. And like, you know, for a very long time that you know, personally that up share like survivor experience was not a great experience for me. Because like I went out there to win and like to place, how place like, you know, plays so much on your mental that like, you know, you don't ever played lose. And so like, I hate it. I just hate how I was betrayed. But like meeting you, and like, you know, my exit interview, I just would never forget like what we were exit interview at us like what I got more questions. I think we go through these questions these quick, and it was just like, you know, and I just like the rebirth of me through you. You is just amazing aside. Just like, you know, just like literally life after survivor and just appreciate this my lobe ocean. Well, I felt like that from the moment that I saw you on the show. I felt like that you were fantastic. And I I've been very lucky that you have been so up for doing all these podcasts over the years, and very lucky that that you are so generous with your time and unhappy that you've become such a beloved figure in all of this survivor post show space. It's amazing because I literally never would have thought that that. Y'all with fine. The thong freak have recorded in common. But said bring it on back. It's a free Geus free. Lemme Draghi's as. Rock can you tissue? Please. But so listen, I wasn't ready for this season to be honest with you because it was the lack is the lie slack coming at this season. This was the first season that I had like actual contestants pandering for the freaky issed freak spot. Like, I like, I don't know why feel like when I talked to you, rob literally like me on the phone with you like odds, I forget that like future contestants like listen to this. And it's just like semi. That's just so amazing. So what I will say that is like my requirements, you know, since how you've seen the the Philly Kia. You know, I was crowned the Queen of Philadelphia, you know, over here and then knoll. We hold on down. What do you mean? You had contestants that were pandering for the freaky is free to ask just saying that, you know, can't testi- it. You know, I feel like about the call hold on. I feel like the freaky est freak is interactive. And so, you know, I feel like it's not just what you do want survivor is also like your interactive nece as well. Like, you know, since I'm the Queen annot of okay, call me sewn. So h is can't be what you do five anymore. So you know, that's what you're looking for. I want the heat, and I want to schmo cropper so saying like, you know, sometimes some seasons give you obvious speak speaks other seasons. Don't and so I feel like an order for me to collateral collateral. Collateral guys it. Guys. I'm friends while west the dot com. They said is so real worst shut up. What if Amita cook granite? Order for me to cut Graddick arise it. Yeah. I gotta take him all types of inflammation. So with that being said who I wanted who hoped? Who I need who often think about in the middle of the night when this hat, and what who what to beat a freaky freak is not. And so I'm gonna go ahead and give a little honorable mention sue, Mr. undo. Yes. So I would you know fit beat a freaky freak. But you know, if that's we show you love your responses. Thumbs up. Or E L? Okay. Well, listen. I mean, my freak you freak to be like rock. I need to be like you to be. Okay. Yeah. Little thirsty. Not you gotta be thirsty 'cause baby. I'm quench Thurs. But you know, maybe parched. I'll go for. So, you know, honorable mentions to the being is the woods. I mean the being. The the wood. A you know shout out to him. He just got married. A couple of days is on his honeymoon. So like one heavy sake. You didn't care this over there. The Honolulu Hawaii, you know, you got me oppressed. So. Now, the honorable mention. Yeah. I don't think he gets back into the game. I don't think he gets back into the game. Because he he seems pretty checked out on the whole survivor experience. He does like on on the social media game. Absolutely. But what I'm saying no robber child that you gave me off the off the free car. If a physical threat if it's a physical game is between him and Joey amazing. I'm or Riyadh and seen Joey amazing enough. I I'm ring von would agai and Underwood's back in the game. He's the frigates freak. But as for now, he's honorable mention another honorable mission goes to Mr. Gavin. He posted another little photo on social media to other day. I said, okay. You might not got. All the reactions I need, but the body is knife. But again, this season of exile ghost island meets age of extinction. I feel like. Who I've gotta give the freakiness freak too is where my dog fat grew. I'm have to give it to the war dog. I'm Dr ward. Free. All right. Tell me about why why is war dog the freaky is free? I if you give an another me a mud massage like who Chila? Chila come on. God I like that and Xiao if you have way through the season and then blocked y'all whole season. Yeah. And half of the other survivor organization and picking a beef with me on Twitter, like I don't know just like, you know, the makeup with you has to be even better. So I just feel like you know, what I'm gonna go ahead and give it the war dog. He's out there playing a game. Like, nobody else. He got a good old truck ahead on and you out there giving dirt massages to Rick Devon's dead. By the listen, I think rematch would agree that, you know, he's got to be the freaky est freak. Now. What is this Twitter being that you are going with the war dog where? The war dog tweeted the other day for many at Brisa was looks favourite castaway. But then this the would dog got sent to the edge and priced in even send personalized videos, Addie Graham to help ward keel. So now Bryce join the others on the dog crap list, most of millennial Jefferson gen-x lives there now. Yes. War dog. And I, you know FaceTime. You know, he he okay, he likes to talk. And you know, I got ears to listen. So, you know. Work were I don't know if you know, but I have three jobs, and you know, I have two parts jobs and sometimes my part time job our overnight. So yes, I watched the bible. I was so sad that she were voted out. But I had to be up five thirty the next morning. So I will not not available for war dogs like conversation. So if you're like who's who's more unreasonable war Dogar Jatiya in terms of demands for your time. They are one in the same. Okay. Because well, I almost going to have to just say see because like a least war dog like has something to expect. Like, you know, we talk every so off their child. You just randomly in the middle of the night, sending me emails, and you know, my Email is a little different than like my tests. So in the middle of the night. I'm here. My email. I'm Mike okay child. That's my cable Bill pay in the morning. Right. Well, okay. Maybe that's my phone Bill. Maybe I'd impair your last month. But I'm like bitch pay my rent. I'm like, oh, my God somebody died let me get up and just look at this bowl. The my might be dated. And then I see like Joetze. I'm like oh, girl, girl. Aggie you later. But. So at least what war dog I feel like but again were dog like he loves the talk. South house. So he was filling some type of way, and I feel like, you know, tell me you said don't announce to Twitter, you cut me off. So, you know, I'm sorry war dope. Have you have to send him a personalized video when he gets voted off. You wanted me to be? Wanted me to be like oh. Full on you want baby. I just had a baby let me out my it. So you have some milk male. Okay. Tell him go on cameo dot com. Okay. You want that L him get your credit card out? Cameo. I am kief. So well right now, I am deed. I'm going. I'm how. You make. You make me cough. Rob it. Yes. Like, I might what you want word. And then I call them back. A he's like with friends and pick up the phone like I'm like talking to the furniture time. I'm talking to the friends, but I've never met. And they're like can we help you chat? First of all. You'll know I'm gay blackmail for Philadelphia. Did this ain't what you want three eighty more dog on the phone? His friends answer the phone dogs phone. Yes. This is fading. Okay. Yes further. Furthermore, just woke up from a nap. If I had me a little do rag on. I'm like you don't under the covers. They like, oh you look comfortable. I'm like, okay. Where where's Daniel? Okay. They like, oh this right? I'm like, listen, sweetie. Boo. Boo. Y'all want to do this with me because I'll know you where more and all of a side like strategically like like walks in the background of my spin. I'm like, I don't have time for the Germanic. Okay. Either. We wanna talk or not's up. Then of course, he gets back on. And of course, we're dog loves me. And I love the war dog. Okay. You know? But yeah, he was he was trying to Twitter. I wasn't ready, but he don't know down shut it down with them. But he's the freaky freak. He is the free gifts freak of ghost eggs favor. Favorite Myrtle Beach. Stakes extinction. Yes. Okay. All right. So next up. Let's see. Where where do you wanna go next? I've got people. People want to ask about your coffee situations out. I talked about the coffee situation, which are no more because. Robert. So I just have low sip. It is why because it's the pay week, and we ain't on back from on more. We we drink them. That's been air rated M I air reader. So anyway, so you NAMA social worker, Robert. So the in my field, it's a very high turnover. So, you know, an my office I've been there a wise. So shady. So it's a high turnover rate. So I, you know, since I was survivor like I'm not on the street. No more. I'm not wanna beat no more. I'm like, you know, I've been elevated. So my position my office is like, you know, boom, boom, boom. A lotta people wanted they hate us like I li- hate an office too. So don't really, you know, I'll be on the street. No more like, you know, my role is more to Silla Tae help support without a lot of satellite offices. And in the last year, we've had a lot of turnovers. So there's a lot of like new people in my office. So like, you know, I'll go to like staff me in and like, you know, just sit I sit with my crew. I don't sit anyway. People weren't feeling like they were teams. So our office decided to do a team building like exercise like the bring everybody together. And like, you know, we're going to do the trust fall. We're going to like make Plato houses together. So like the whole, and they put you with people that you did not know. So here I am. Okay. Brennan late, you know, kids exercise walking in with some coffee and. Like in this group in walking in with some coffee. And I'm in this group with like people, I don't know. And so like we had like a team building exercise where we had to like make a Li like a straws and like Plato, and like who can make the tallish straw, em- Plato, and it's like four groups, and I'm literally like what people that I don't know. So I'm like, hi, I'm Bryce, you know, this is my unit boom, boom, boom. Everybody says hi now this one girl who is just like staring at me. And I am I I'm my girl with the U Y. My my teeth. Like, I mean, like, I know I don't have a haircut right now. But I'm just like, okay. And I got an attitude with how my girl stops looking at me. You Don I'm turning into Mr Clark. So we end up not lose. We end up losing go figure me losing a challenge. And then like, you know, we had to like write positive affirmations to each other so writing positive affirmations to each other, and I'm like, the purple marker and the girl shall remain nameless. She's like, I gotta marker here you go. Thank you. And she's like can I talk to you some like, sure. So she's like, my friend is like a huge saviour fan. And she listens to like, rob has a PA and show. My faith at I am like this is not I'm thinking, we're about to talk something work. I'm thinking she's about the ethnic something by her case. So, you know, I'm going in the last what should he baby she show? Wishy say. Like, I like made a noise because like I was not. Like noise. Like, I swear, rob. I was not expecting like that was a weird. She was like, my friend. And like she told me about, you know, the rap has the pack cast and. Your secret's safe with me. Bitch one. What's your baby? I think we're safe. Robber. Then I learned from talking to her like, I said, she's at a satellite office. About the call you girl girl lifted she told me she told me the other day and nine. That the satellite office. Listen to look. No, ma'am, gave me my work hard out. What? Bits child. I not they like it. I don't care if they like like, I I hear telling you all my secrets, and I have a section of my office and lunch listening to the Esa. Look, a look very why there were so many downloads. You have a whole office of people that are listening at lunch a half them. People. Don't even like me. So I'm like, why listening to end lines? Listen. I why done I'm like, oh my God. I cannot do. I cannot I cannot nor have I not ever borrow coffee. That was not mine. Right. But and this girl, listen, it is so after that, I just thought it was funny because. Maybe like a week after they there started to be like overload of southern pecan. Shane. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. That's weird. So one day. Late night. And I didn't I wasn't able to use the sponsors. Pick me up. So I'm like, listen, I know what's hot out here in the streets. And I need to gave me some coffee. So I'm doing my little coffee thing. And I'm not Nisam Creamer. I opened a fixed rate of rubber in southern pecan in there with a sticky note on it that says I cannot make this up Bryce help yourself. It's probably poisoned. Hours free, Alex. Robber. I was freaked out. And so after that girl. All of a sudden above the coffee club. Dateline posted this new coffee club information sheet. What's itemizes ten thing? I'm like, you know, what you're doing the most. So I took a photo of it. Let me just read it see row quick. And then I want to send you so that somehow these people to see it. To join the coffee club contact Terry. Oh and Kyle s I'm like, okay. That's we're to monthly dues are eight dollars to be paid to Terry. At the beginning. Not end of the mom, right? And then this is the shade in all caps. Non members are to pay a dollar, then then that that died you to fifty cents. You made it go up. Dot dot dot lie. I'm like, oh, my guy Robert this. So you think the dot dot dot was a was a call out to you. I think no names. I mean, they just shade the memo entitled the talk of the town is that coffee update. How you you hear me get into this? And that's warm, Robert. Like, I I just can't even believe this hanging in my office. We are no longer accepting. I owe us with your name the amount due. Okay. 'cause you know, I don't know if you remember three years ago. I used to be good for putting I o you in there. And then I won't re ten, but I'll stop five. Okay. Because this one is the one that took me out. I'm literally reading from a photo. I'm going to text it to you. So that you can see. They tried it. Cremers? Okay. They start with Creamer. And if all in capital, Cremers, sweeteners stirrers and sugar are four members. Only if you are not a member, please do not help yourself to the Creamer now bitch listen here. You didn't mention Cremers sugars and thoroughfares the lead up, but you end with do not help yourself to the Cremers like. I don't even know who's here is my office. Because like I said. Is have like merged. So like. You're trying to merge. Office made the merge, and I am not a par-. I cannot imagine my friend who used to help me out with like after the last podcast. She sent me a Email. Talking about to to make concern. I can no longer help you get coffee in the morning. Your friends? Fit me Email with only me on it. Make her. Robert. Listen. This has been a blessing in a curse because I just can't stroll into the office and get me some coffee. But listen, it is shot out to my girl. Maureen who's a loyal are. Mm. Oh, okay. She comes up to the Bryson wind possess as she got for you. I got some for you. I'm like, okay. I see I need to see your now. And I don't know if anybody you guys know is she's like five foot two Guinea, Geilo babka. I like the new cut, but most say come here you come here. I'm like, okay. What you got what you guy this girl brings out a roller quarter. And it's like, listen, I want you putting no more fake money in there. I felt that. I was there when that happened. Why quarters? Our want you making a jingle no more with Don. They get some coffee. Well, girl. Thank you know. Because. I don't even want to join the coffee club. No more because you're not getting eight dollars a month for me anymore. Okay. And I'm not paying a dollar anymore. I will stick to the fifty cents. Eight dollars a month is good for a month of coffee robber. It used to be five dollars. Okay. Yeah. And we didn't have a written by law. Mike. I just feel like it's just so shady and where the by law is like posted is like so there's like. I don't even know why I'm describing this to your. But so it's like our kitchen has like three jurors. Like once and like a little one. Is easy access to the little one because like nobody can see open it up, and like, you know, and child and and girl guess where the bylaws happened to be posted by a little Fisher Reiter. Is doing too much. Okay. So that is the last and final coffee update for y'all because. No, more, okay rice. I have a question for you. That is from Steven and Steven sent voicemail and he wanted to know could you compare the final six of this season as people as flavors of the international delight coffee Cremers. Well, I mean, how no because you know. In a national delight has a lots of cream 'as. But. They do. But first of all. I'm gonna go on a give they got a hazelnut. So I'm going to give a Hazel to honorary member Hazel. Davy, but we'll keep it in the game. So they often. They have a salted caramel. Yes. Death going have to go to miss the clock. Okay. Little salty. They have a sweet cream that's going to have to go to say, Victoria, because when my baby daddy rock came out here. She was does the crane. Dave. Chat. They gotta Oreo. Yes. That going to miss the clock to. They got they got a stone cold ice cream. Yes. Cold stone. Yeah. Wait, wait, calling though they got a coleslaw flavor that's going again because, you know, his faces coal as the stone baby. And shy. They got peop-. The kids friendly favorite. So that's gonna have to go to all Ricky. So don't think he is. Oh, Honey, the old southern be candidate got the say the best for last. That's always infant ever me. 'cause I'm sudden. And I'm a pecan. And if you didn't know the pecan Karmally and sweet. Right. Matt on Twitter wants to know if Bryce was on this season and Chris under would raise the mass to quit the game Bryce leave with him. So they could be alone at Ponderosa b. Move move. Deed? Where are you going? Move here. I would be if they happened when I was sleep. I had the wait. Run out like a medevac. A life. Ran throw me floaty promise. The flow. Yes. Hot dogs. Okay. This is a question. A lot of people ask for you. We have so many so many recurring questions for you, Bryce and ask a lot of people. But I think that the person that I want to hear ask you this question. Let's go out to do. You know that we have listeners to this podcast around the world. In a national international delight. Okay. Let's. This question breath on road stuggling from Nigeria. From the on. Extension. Kosta will be on twenty because. Teke from Nigeria Fulton. No. On the twenty twenty Zadie calendar. Did you know that the Zadie calendar made it out to Nigeria? Neither jerry. Maga-? I call my mom, my Nigeria. I know I knew has daddy's it or Stranorlar, but from the motherland. Oh, gee. Wanna know about the calendar? Reality Curtis wanted to know what month with Lloyd beyond the twenty twenty calendar. Yeah. Some people might say, hey, why are you guys talking about calendar? It's may it's the beginning of may listen bribe. I. I cannot you over Nigeria. I've got somebody that knows e night Jiri a-. Yeah. So if a lot. So what I would say about that is that child disaster. Calendar is taken a life of its own. Hey, you're filling things I is if the lot Robert okay, he's five years that I have not aged bit. Nor has my age going up in these five years. The camel is something that so crazy like I literally had to compile a Zadie calendar committee, a committee our committee, girl, girl. Committee. So I cannot speak on visibility calendar at this time. Let's let's sometimes you gotta pull back. Underway. I mean, I mean to move forward to move forward. Yeah. Underwood sometimes you have to step back through thrust under now to thrust forward. So that Zadie calendar topics have to be table to the next season because I issues too much. Well, here's the problem. Here's problem. So the next time that we do a full on feedback show. It's going to be actally Christmas. It's going to be. Ones. Visit it's going to be like December tenth right, right? Right, right. In time for the holiday. Nobody needs to get made before then so people can buy it for the new year. So we might need to have a Zadie calendar reveal special. You know, why Robert Jomar, Lloyd? Lincoln Festa Reno. A whole. Dessel robert. Did what are you talking about? Just go and do. Well, I rem- I do it. Well, okay. So let's just say this. We will absolutely have a long winded player players on the twenty tiny Zadie calendar on twenty twenty. Market even thaw. I I literally I was not expecting this like literally like the calendar came up so organically, so Creighton. I everybody's like what is Brantley on their best month? Now, we're onto Eddie, FOX. I wish it was still April. No. No, I'm glad this may Eddie 'cause he's dropped off the face of earth. But if you need the only place, you can see him daddy calendar. Okay. Yes. So it's just funny. So it's like, yes, we we we got your does any calendar is common, but we need to because it has to be an listen. I'm like the real fans it got to be the old with the new. So it just can't be a so you gotta say you're back. Okay. We had Ken from Gaborone on their Araya. So I mean, that's that's the top Zadie to be okay. Joe can tempo. Okay. Joe Joe del Campo. Jokin Tempa at that. It was not tempo. Okay. Whatever his name is. So yes, my my brother from Nigeria. I will say this that we absolutely have more than one player from twenty twenty on the. We have more than one player from ghost. No from age of extinction on the twenty twenties Atty calendar. But yeah, I just I feel like it's too early to reveal because the way to committee is set up. They think they run in the show. And now, I gotta get I gotta get Ramona's. I need a moderate because she's the only one to be able to get this Kayla committee together. You know, it's fine. Ream is going to be part of the calendar committee. I'm she can because it's like the calendar committee is too much day taking over there telling me is and what is not. And it's just like hard for me not to shut that. That's what I'm me some Reema baby. Okay. All right. So I guess then we're going to table this sometime in the summer of twenty nineteen. We're going to have some sort of a Zadie calendar reveal show. Oh, rob calendar reveal special, and it'll be it'll be, you know, you don't think that, you know, all the war dogs not going to be listening like unique Myra knows not going to be listening. You know, you're gonna there's gonna be a lot of anticipation. Listen. They won over on the calendar. Yeah. And now can people can make their brackets of what the can wonder is going to be there have a pool and still let me just put it out there to all the all. 'cause I want every fair chance if you feel like somebody should be on air you could sweep me twenty twenty Zadie Canada because you're already didn't start. Okay. So the committee is here in which say it and me and the committee going back and forth. So okay, Bryce, what happened with the raccoon. My guys, maybe how do you even know about? I don't know how I know. Text me about the raccoon. I did not. So this is like another your Twitter. So this is another work, right? So. I'm I'm a social service worker. I work in a building. And so like, we their street parking around. Our our building is freaking like meter parking. So like there is like the coveted like indoor closed parking that thirty dollars. That's thirty dollars a month. You won't get me. But if the outdoor parking lo outdoor lack fifteen dollars a lot fifteen dollars a month more my speed, however. My company does not own the building that we like working. So the building has new tenants coming in and they had to get rid of like forty spots for parking. Okay. So people running around office like oh my God. Like, they kicking me out of the parking lot me while I'm walking around with coffee like crazy, girl. I'm so sorry. That's happening. Like, you know, meanwhile, you know, me I'm a veteran in office. I'm like sad for y'all like, you know, child, you know. Boop. Boop. I'm logging into my Email show. I see Email from. Jatiya? I wish it was from JT a- will was that old girl named from. Now, I'm gonna just give an old grenade from the coffee club name from neighb-. Terry. So how about if you're receiving the Email you have to vacate youth excuse me? This whole big thing about like parking at my office. So I was kicked out of my parking spot. And so, you know, you're gonna hear this story because I made. They sent it around like I'd say March third, and they like you don't have to be out of the parking spot until like, April the second. I got kicked out. I wrote terra, oh, I wanna be out of my parking spot immediately. If I pay fifteen. Four three two Ted because I'm getting mad now. So listen and tell me if this is unreasonable robber, okay, you're kicking me out of my parking spot. And so if I had to be out of my parking spot, that's fine. You want me out in may April. That's fine. But no, I'm going to leave when you're leaving me. I pay fifteen dollars. A day. The average day in a month is what thirty thirty one days. I'm leaving the second. I'm each all run me my money because I'm leaving today. And I want you to run me my money. I don't care if it's eight thousand thirty two cents. Rummy my money. Dave talking about oh, you signed that Tuta. Park in a parking lot. You know, there's no reimbursement. So you just mind we'll stay to the end to. No, I'm not saying through ended a month. I'm out you sent me an Email kicking me out terro, I want out. So it's like this back and forth. We me and my company about I want my eight thousand forty two cents because I haven't been parking there. I did not park there. The rest of them off. I may I've been going so that's a little sensitive subject. So the point like my supervisor has been Mike giving me eight dollars and forty two cents on my desk to like make me stop. But no like kicked me out. I wanna go out. So anyway. Ten of six four. Where's a raccoon in this story? So the raccoon a story is the free parking is like three blocks away. Near like a little wooded area. Not a wood area wooded area. So that's why I have to park every day. So I'll probably about a wooded area. I got me a little spot as between like trash keys as like a house towards the end. But it's like my spot. So to other day, I'm leaving work early. Like, ooh, let me go home bookable, boom. Now, my little ipods, it, you know, I'm listening to which looking for. And so like I like to answer on like, the dry, not the driver's side. But the passenger side of the car, so imagine I guess this like kids getting out people sitting on a porch. Like, you know, it's like a lot going on care. Let's try and get some car because I have to walk up hill GRA Meech to my car since I've been kicked out of the parking lot. And have yet been pay my eight thousand forty two cents. So I'm just. I'm a little work on you know, bumble over my door. I'm like throwing my bag on and I feel. Pressure on my foot, and I'm like bitch him out work big just break. And I don't know. Because literally I'm listening to the heat. I got smoke wish looking I got like you. I'm like open the door like throwing my stuff, and I'm like, ooh. Is that war dog massaging my fee? Fucking bird. I looked at. A. Cooled walking all nice point. Literally lawf- off train. I like. Crossing guards. And is looking like that kids in the middle of the street are looking at me people on their ports are looking at me. Because again, I have on like I pods. Like, I I don't know why petty of all things came out of my mouth. But like I was freaked out. Like like, not like, oh, you theoretic not like all like, oh, they're like a coup walking over my thoughts. And it's like, and it was kind of like a baby one. So it was like, oh, I didn't wanna like to kick it. But if I kicked it I would've like put it in my I was just like. And then I'm like, okay, girl, you acting crazy. And this I take the ipods out of my ear and my. Crossing gar waving the stop sign at me. Like, are you all I'm like on my car like, and they're like, then you see the right Coon like scurrying across the street. I was like again like. Like, why me? Chief? Never heard of a person getting stepped on by Kuhn. I see you stepping on the record. No like, it literally was like walking over my feet and like. I don't know. I guess it was the sweet smell of that. So then PK. I don't like because like literally like is a wooded area. So it's like I get there. So it must have been under my car some open my car door, and I don't know maybe was making some type of. I don't know. You know, my part was coming on became full. What you look for you just might. I'm like don't book, I'm leaving found. And like I felt like something on my foot. And I'm like, oh, there's something dropping out. My Dake is. So like I have like a work bag like a little book bag. I carry like my meal prints and my book bag in my life. You know? And so I like throw I just and I just I just was not prepared. So look down at my feet. I just figured it would be like my charger to my like. Work computer, like ISIS and Shah, and I lie to you not rubber at the ice cream, Patty and the little baby Ray raccoons scurried across the street. It's back and looked at me. And I swear fo- Jesus I was like my guy is that window like. Like, really, look like Wendell, the raccoon looks like Wendell baby raccoon looked like window like I cannot make this up to you. I like, and I don't know if it was adrenaline your trash. Like I seriously like I am like. This window. My journey journalism. I just had some southern pecan. I don't know. But I was like oh my God. I had scurried in my car as my car like I had tinted windows, even though I don't like the kids. Welcome by looking at me. I can I'm just like oh my gosh. And I'm like if that crossing guard comes across the streets in my car, he going get roll Moldova because I'm gonna feed off, but he stayed where he was at. But he did try to get my attention. A couple of times that I'm not I'm not even looking at you. And I just had the tweet like this is just what happened to me because I cannot make this up like I literally like a baby raccoon look like window Highland. The second middle name p. Over. My Cole Haan Brown shoes. I like, I'm not. And the fact of the matter is I was not thinking about rob has a podcast. I'm not thinking about. So I I'm not thinking about anything. But literally like when I looked down and I'm like. Like, why of all I'm just like, oh my God. I'm so. A math right now. If I was rigged Evans, my son would be embarrassed. Oh my God. Bryce, I I don't know where I where we can go from that. I think everybody happy. Yes. I call window. I'm like you just walked that way. I'm like literally, I just saw a raccoon what I had to hang up put them down. Like, why me like I don't under-. I just like why wouldn't they baby raccoons walk around me like. Why? Tonight. Seven four three to calm myself down. Like, literally if a lie it was a lot. I was not. The great rice. Isaiah the creator of what you looking for now with an official video. Okay. People can go watch it. Yes, it's available on YouTube. My G TV. Yes. Which looking for is available on all major streaming websites title, Amazon, Google play apple music, cousin PU key selling out there or at you want to get it. But I just want to say I feel I got it. That's where he was Bill you met kooky. But seriously, though, thank you so much everyone. That's missed porting. Get like, you know, it really has been a dream of minds put music out. And so it's just like, you know, to be in a fun space for people like really get it in like represented. I just I love it. And I just wanna say the flood, and you this summer, I have a new thing coming out June. First call get the party started. You just started with what you're looking for. I was looking for the party. And now, I'm getting it started new thing. Coming out get the party started Bryce is. I'm not playing with no more. I've been in the game. Now, I play I'm coming robber. The listen. They didn't crown me an winter Delfi ah the Queen of the I N throw the girl. I gotta bring you gotta climb on my drag in turn the lights to hail read. Not breed. But shoot. Well. Okay. Watch out rock rice rice. Did you happen to hear this week off? Oh, I got my ever entire live from the literally humbling, I send it to e barrios. He's like was the wand off. I'm like, you gotta listen to these park and come on E and he listed. So he was like, oh, I'm gonna make a park. I wanna make a wand up. I'm like where you gotta watch survivor to get out. I'm like, you can't just west of our when I was on it so child and. Let me play a little bit of it this. This was from Matt from Waterloo with this was his one emission this week. What do I of when I look at Jane, I wanna say. Done. Voting. This challenge. Taking out big threats strategy. Biggest left his dandy currently stand to Silva can't. Never. The time has come out saying everyone would be painting. Got to go. She'll be still. Four. All right here. That's not. Hayward? That's impressive. Right. Hey war dog when I listened to with the first time. I'm like did. I record a song. Like they have like. That's me talking. I wasn't sure if you collaborated with Matt from waters apparently though, Waterloo into build. I know you've collaborated with Alex g before aches. Aches Z radio story. Let me just tell you rano story about Alex row quick. So when do I the other day were infinitely we went to this like random day party? And they were a lot of like pre med students there, and you know, window high introduces themselves who you are one survivor. Okay. Who cares? So I know, but they was giving out free pizza. We did indulge in the free pizza. And so this guy comes up to us. And he's like you guys are on survivor. He's like my roommate is like a huge saviour fair. His name is Alex. I was like, Alex. Was it really really Aleks? Jeez. Roommate? He's like that's so funny because he's always in his room making these music health. They're like to like this virus thing. But anyway, shout out the Alex g and shout out to the whole choir that came out for the Philly Kia that replace Brett since and be there. But yes, so random Accenture small world, Philly we build in okay rice, Isaiah what else should people check out? I mean, it's just. But right now, it's a lot. I'm blessed. It's been a blessed five years, and I am so humble. And so grateful you just cannot reiterate enough which you looking for is available. We got Zadie Canada come in. Now, I've got new music for you all summer, and you know, you just never know who who might be one the next feature on my single. So it's exciting. So just you know, by size, your Twitter Instagram, I'm no longer on back page, but you. Cameo. You wanna get at your girl? I'm just a little away. Okay. All right and my following this correctly. You're thinking about watching survivor, South Africa. I am. And also. A favorite contestant own my guy. Somebody just put me on. 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Domenick Abbate & Kellyn Bechtold Recap Episode 12 of Survivor: Edge of Extinction

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Domenick Abbate & Kellyn Bechtold Recap Episode 12 of Survivor: Edge of Extinction

"Germany you live from my apartment. Hey, it's rob has a podcast. And now, here's a guy who's been known to make things awkward. I am. Rob sister. Nino everybody. Welcome back to rob has podcast year for episode and number twelve believe it or not of survivor the edge of extinction. And we've got a really fun pod gets today. We're gonna talk to from ghost island, kellyn Bechtold and Dominic Bata here in one podcast really excited about this experimental podcast formula to try to bring in two guests from one season. He's talking about everything that's going on and between the two of them. I think we're going to have some very fun stuff to talk about here today after last night's episode. So Ron Clark voted out of the game. Stephen, I talked it all through on the survivor know, it alls, and we. We've got plenty more podcasting to come Bryce is going to join us on our feedback show on Friday. So get your feedback questions in rob has website accomplish voicemail where three two three two are H A P as well for that. And of course, Liana Boris coming up on this week and survivor of then then more snow at all's on Sunday night after game of thrones. And then we'll get into the wiggle room with Josh Wigley before I get too dumb and Kellyanne here on the call. I wanna take a moment and mention our sponsor hearsay, those our friends over at Brooke linen. You know, you spend a third of your life in sheets. It's time for a bedding. Upgrade a lot of people are saying that Reema has been using sheets on the edge of extinction for clothes, and that is not the way to go. You wonder why she might be feeling irritable? Because I can tell you that the sale on the edge of extinction. Is not the feeling of five star hotel sheets. That's not how you should be getting it done. Why does it have to be so difficult and expensive to get incredible five star hotel sheets at your home? 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Same mind. Yeah. Kellyn you. Good. How is life over there? Are you like is it still my fault? Every day. Every day we wake up my kids come in in my bed badly like dad, a damn Cowan. Okay, children are saying damn kellyn at this point. Yes. Well, look, my children are going to school. And I am getting blamed for being a bad influence on them. But I am actually pawning it off. Because last night. I went around my house talking like Reema all night. And then I found out that my older son got in trouble at school for saying that he was going to drop kick. Somebody. My wife was asking drop kick. Where did you even learn about that? He's like dad says it with that with that lady puppet. First of all, let's not all skate over your Instagram. Yes. Ache over because this needs to not be ignored. And I don't know if it just it meant more to me because I have kids or whatever it is. But I was I was sitting down to dinner when I started watching it because my kids and I got back from work late yesterday. I'm biting into corn on the cob and. Across my I just was Dominic. Thank you. Appreciate a and the reason why I bring it up is because I'm supposed to do a takeover soon. And i'm. You're out. I'm rescinding redacting whatever the word is now. I can't eat with that. I'm glad that you had fun. My wife was not talking to me by the end of the night. It wasn't as much fun for all parties involved getting annoying. No, she cannot nobody. Nobody is allowed to get tired of your war. Okay. These the greatest voices I've ever heard, and I hope we dominate. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Now what I want to know is what is the Genesis of that. How how did we the three of us end up here together on one podcast whose idea was this? And how did this come about? Kellyn you on speak. I mean, I feel like it was definitely dawn's idea. So dominate have been working on our mending our relationships for about a how and have occasional phone conversations catch up and really enjoys enjoy other surprise the prize. There was a time in our lives. We we didn't so much. And now we liked to hang out and talk every once in a while. And we were just messaging back and forth. I think right. Don than you said, hey, I'm gonna pitch it to rob that we should try and do a podcast together. And I was all in. I couldn't believe I love the idea. I was a I don't know rob will be up for having two people at once. But if he is like I love in. And so in envisioned to be good. I think you're amazing on the podcast. Cal. Told rob that and. I just thought it'd be a fun mix because we do have some wacky history. And yes, we have been on a very healthy path. I think and you know, who knows maybe will will will dig into that a little bit tonight. But I just thought that it would be a good combination of characters the three of us to get together and just shoot I'm really excited because I've wanted to do this. But I find that a lot of times the survivor people that I talked to don't love to share the spotlight. So this was an interesting opportunity, but not one that comes across my desk. Very often. I never thought of it like that. I mean, I yeah. That that's the thing. People don't want to. Yeah. Right. Okay. Well, let's let's touch on what's going on here in survivor edge of extinction. Callan overall. Are you enjoying this season? Oh, goodness. I just I I'm not loving. And I don't mean to be a picky. Survivor viewer. And I I really enjoyed the beginning of the season. But the last few episodes I felt like it's been fairly predictable. Yeah. I don't know just well this this week. Definitely. It's surprising this week. It was really fun episode this leak, and I was really excited to be talking to you, rob, of course, about survivor anytime, but especially to talk with Dom about how in love Stevens article in some ways, they're they just saw goes down left. And it's like I wonder if it's just the flipside overcompensation of just seeing our season. That's why people are trying to make move super early. I'll tell you what I do about. It is I Mike see toll jet told you life. I shouldn't have jumped ship like the. I'm feeling very redeemed by watching people stick their neck out too early and get chopped off. But I'm excited to talk to Don to see what he thinks and how it's different from his let's set the stage because that is the number one thing I wanted to talk to you both about was the effect and the impact of ghost island on this group of survivors because to go back and look at the filming dates they left for survivor, thirty eight very shortly after the finale of survivor ghost island. And then I believe they've said that they also watched the finale again at Ponderosa, and there was a big onus on forget about Dominic and kellyn. It seemed like that the biggest takeaway was about our friend laurel and hey, make sure you don't want to be the person who. Who waits too long to make a move. If you want to win this thing. And so whatever you do don't sit on your hands. When there's time to make a move down. Had you heard about this? Well, yeah, I've definitely heard that commentary about. You know, I do know that they left shortly after our finale, I didn't know that. They watched the finales a second time. But it definitely sounds like something that would make sense because again here say, I can't okay. Okay. So maybe they did maybe they didn't. But I know that there is a before you actually start to play the game. There is a pep talk. You receive something hype you up and really get you thinking about how you wanna play this game in that you only gonna get the play once and his only really a five percent chance that you're going to win it. So give it your all. When you go out there. Don't don't sit, you know, just. Swing continue to swing continue to swing continue swing. So if they did get some type of speech like that. Or maybe were given the opportunity to revisit the finale and even just having those last few episodes of our season fresh in their minds and just seeing what happens to the person doesn't swing. That will definitely have some affect on how they're going to play the game in their own season. But it still surprises me how many people aren't swing. I know we we see the big characters doing it. But I'm surprised to see that. There's not the nobody swinging everybody seems to be doing something. I just think the maybe the levels of creativity are are some are higher than others for the most part telling I want to sort of explore the idea of if a lot of people are making moves at the same time. I is the better course of action to not be making moves. I mean, if that's the side you so who would be who would we think in this season is kind of doing that? I mean Aurora she's not really making moves herself. She seems to be doing. All right Gavin. I would argue hasn't been making out in front of a lot of moves so Gavin in duly and Victoria. They're the ones right. We would say it's hard because it's difficult to separate moves from the edit where Gavin in Victoria. They were part of that group that voted against Eric which was a sort of one of those big moves early in the merge, which really started to destabilize this thing. And then I think that they've been involved in a lot of different votes. Victoria was on the right side of the vote each and every time until last night when it was her plan, but she actually cast her vote for Devon's. So it's hard to say that the those couple of people aren't making. Moves it just feels like that. We haven't seen as much from them as some of the other players who have been louder and the game. Yeah. That's what it is. I think I think it's not that they're not doing then you're just playing a more subtle game. They're they're definitely active. They're definitely making decisions than not sitting there letting people direct them. I mean victims of Victoria to me is playing a I think the best game right now as much as I love what Rick did. And I have a lot to say about him. But Victoria's game is so on point right now because she's sharp she's making decisions in a very subtle way. And like you said she hasn't been on the wrong side of the vote. She's known every time and she's not playing a flashy game. Where Rick who is playing a flashy game is just putting that target right on his back the second they get back to camp after tribal. So I I think it's not a matter of our people doing things, it's the it's the matter of how subtle they're being when they do it. Or how flashy there? Being when they do it. And it was something I suffered from myself. You know, I couldn't get a grip on just having a quiet moment. I had to always present it in a way that I thought would win you know, when votes at the end of the game. So for for anyone that is left in the game. They're really trying to figure out that balance on should I be flashy be subtle. What's winning the jury? What's not? And it's it's just a really tough balancing act telling a do you have any thoughts on Victoria that Dominic? Brought up. I I shouldn't have said that she wasn't making moves. I definitely agree with the disclaimer on it that she's not making flashy moves. I've enjoyed watching her game. Of course, it seems like forever ago that she pulled off the Aubrey vote site think she's playing a great game. She seems like she's in with people. But definitely staying behind the scenes she hasn't. She hasn't wanted him unit. Racked. Though, you know, she hasn't had that Blaine around her neck to draw attention to herself. And she seems to be always in the know. So I've enjoyed watching her for sure. And is probably my favorite female player of the season. I want to ask you about. We saw Rick Devon's have the flashy move or the fleshy idle play at tribal council last night. And also we saw the jury's reaction to that. How much does does that make an impact as sort of like the theatrics at the tribal council? This is a this is a really important thing. What Rick's doing hair? All right. If you break down the tribal council from start to finish. It starts with Rick talking in a way that makes himself a victim in front of the jury, and you even see reactions he's like, you know, they went through my bag Aurora. We call her going through my stuff, and you see the jury kinda react in a way. That's like oh my God. But then he immediately follows it up with a joke. Right. And like gets people laughing second later. It's it's it's weird. But you gotta remember that this this is a jury. That's not having a good time at Ponderosa. And again, I don't have any experience at Ponderosa or of extinction. I don't know anything about either of them because I never spent any time in Ponderosa. So I don't over people's decision. No, not what I meant though. But I'm saying, I don't know what it what it what it does to people's mindsets to go back and being a party atmosphere. And then be like, oh, we gotta go to tribal council tonight. All right. Sounds like a good time. And then if you compare that to people who just sitting and staring at each other every day and have absolutely nothing to do with themselves. I mean, can you know, you remember what it was like to have an off day in the game? Right. Like when there's no tree mail. You just like oh my God. What am I going to do it myself this entire day? I have we're not going to challenge not going to. Tribal. We're not doing anything like that's the longest day in the game. And to think about like complete I would complain on one on one day. And then look at re did I've been here for thirty three days. Like, this is insane. The be out there for thirty something days with absolutely nothing to do. Of course, she's choking people out when they show up. You know what I mean? So sporran trying to get at is. Well, think about it so Rick if they come to tribal council they're looking for something to do. It's like going to the movies. Okay. Now, Rick like, I said he'll start off the the the the whole presentation with him turning himself into a victim. Like, they went through my bag, and then he falls it up with some type of humor, and it just really puts his warm feeling in in the jury that just hasn't felt anything all day every day for however days, and and then I think. Another thing with the wave. Rick, really? I don't know what word you would use towards Ron and Julia thirty proved that the advantage was was expired is like he would go out of his way to. Like. Trying to say is like in other words, for for example, when Jeff asked Ron about the loved ones, visit roms like, well, I really sympathize Victorian Lauren because I know what that father daughter relationship must be like, and that's really something that's important to me, and he left Rick completely out of it. He didn't say he feels bad for or has any sympathy for the fact that Rick didn't get the spend the day with his wife. And so to me that was another shot room Rex like, okay? All right, good. So when I proved you this advantages fake, I'm gonna stuff it to you so hard, and I just think that the whole act of Rick. After he proved that the advantage was expired and how he walked away and was like really Ron you had to humiliate me in front of my kids like that whole thing. He set the jury up to like sympathized for him again because he was a victim again. And then he followed it up with, you know, this great triumphant moment where he pulls out a real idol, and has everyone laughing and smiling, and that is the essence of winning the jury Rick has this this. Gift to just completely be able to make them feel sorry for him in one second. And then love him the next. And there's no question about it. If it gets the end of this came he wins this game hands down. No, no contest. The question is will he be able to do that? After all this the actress he pulled off every time he goes back to camp. Now, he's you know, he's number one on that target list. So I don't know how he's going to get to the end. But if he does it's his game. Will he get he's got another two or three tribals to get through? So I wanna ask you about the perspective of the jury because in my mind that I feel like that the jury especially when it's a big group like this that they are a lot of times like the audience, and I think that they are most sympathetic to whoever the underdog is. And I think that Rick is really playing this perfectly with the jury where he's the person who is. Is speaking truth to whoever is perceived to be in power in the game right now, where he's the person who is calling out Ron which the jury really loves, and I feel like that that Dominic in in your particular case that I think that you and Wendell were not seen as the underdogs in in your season. So in that the jury in some ways a might've been rooting for somebody to flip the game on its head because the people that are out of the game. I felt like that. They just wanna see the people that got then out of the game. Also knocked out of the game. Is that a valid theory. Amazing the way that he kind of he was like I'm getting I'm getting back at Ron for all of us have been mistreated. We've all been. Manipulated? We've all been booted out by this guy, and the way he was like probably knew that his advantage wasn't gonna work and plays that and I wonder how much of that he planned before he went into it. Or if you just got in front of the camera, and he's a camera man played out the whole story. And I also love how animated the jury is. I just think about how much how much is gasping in Ireland and all that stuff, and I had all day do other things at ponder Assefa. They have been so bored and every three days they've had nothing to do. And to come in and watch it all go down. I've really enjoyed the way the jury is watching tribal in in Rick just brought it home last night. It was really really cool. And. Yeah, as the underdog, it wouldn't be as fun, right? If Rick was like Gotcha in charge. And then did all that. Right dumb. But if the under. It wasn't much better story. I wanna touch on something you said also if it was something that Rick planned because when you leave camp to the time you're sitting at tribal and start speaking with Jeff there is a good amount of a waiting period where you're not allowed to speak to the other contestants. I'm not gonna get into details on how that works. But there's a good chunk of time where you have nothing to do. But think about what you're about to go into you're gonna you're about to be in tribal council. You're bad too. Go through this whole theatrical presentation of whatever's about to happen. And this really is for me. Anyway, was really a time to think about should I pull the trigger on doing something here. Should I bring this up? Should I bring that up? Should I how do I go about it? Do I present it in a way that's going to be distasteful to the jury. Is it going to not be an when you the more time you have in that waiting period? I it allows you to really. Finesse your your idea of how you want to present it, you know, and sometimes you have more time than other times. You know, what I mean sometimes you only have a real quick period. Where you you don't have much time to really scope out. How you want to do it? So I I don't know if there was a time. But I I would imagine that Rick really said look if this advantage is good and it's legit. And I don't have to do any of this. But if it's not good, I'm gonna lay the hammer down on running at just was too good. He's just like I said he turned himself into a victim. And then followed up with this huge triumphant moment like, you know. And it just really I couldn't believe the reaction that the jury gave when it happened. I mean, I would do things what I thought were big moves, and you know, Callans right here. She'll tell you her reaction wasn't one of. Oh that was it was dropping is rolling. So I mean. Oh, it's really comes down to having that time to really clean it up and prep it in a way that you think might not hurt yourself with Jerry. Yeah. I don't think that Ron was surprised at all when he handed in the advantage menu. And that it was a counterfeit or expired advantage that I think that he has seen recommend. I'm sorry that I don't think Rick was prized at all. I think that he I think in his mind had like how this was all gonna play out in front of the jury pretty well prepared. Yeah. And I think there was one real hint that I picked up on when I reward. It's not really so much of what Rick day. But it was what Julie did. And if you go back to after the immunity challenge day all go back to campus sitting around the fire and Rick's joking around with them. And he's like so anyone wanna work together? You know as a joke and are like whatever dude like, we're not working with you. And then a minute later. You see Rick standing by the well, and you see Ron and Julie approach him, and they come up with this idea. Like, all right. We're gonna vote out Aurora tonight. And then the this is the power. I I it caught my attention was where. Ron tells Rick. Oh, and Julie knows about the advantage that I gave you and Julie kinda just like waves it off like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He told me about that. And that to me would have been the red flag. Like, all right. Why are you just brushing over that? Like, it's no big deal. So if you go back and watch the little clip, it's just seemed like she really gave it away in that moment where like she didn't. She didn't react as if it was an authentic relic that he had in his possession. She almost gave it away in the little comment that she made and that to me was the giveaway, and I think Rick picked up on that. And that's where I think he started the plan out this whole presentation where he's going to really make sure that the jury knows that he was a victim in all this. Kellen? I think that the wildest part of all this as we're talking about the jury's reaction to Rick Devon's is that Rick had actually nothing to do with the plan that ultimately sent Ron out of the game. Which was really like the dazzling move of the night. Yeah. It was great that Rick was going to play his idol, but had Aurora been voted out from that tribal council. I feel like that this is less. Dazzling of a move and looks like to the jury like, wow, not only did Rick play the idol. He also got Ron voted out of the game after he gave them that who like everything played in Rick Devon's favor. And I wonder maybe for the four people that ended up working together to get Ron out of the game. Did they not think through how the jury would? Perceive it and maybe a could they have knocked say Juliet of the game. I guess that they didn't know that the whole thing was going to happen with the advantage menu. And that there was going to be so much animosity between Ron and Rick at that tribal councils had no way of knowing that it was going to at the end of the night. Be just like a big win for Devon's. Yeah. Don't you think in some way? The jury is going to think that I don't think they're even going to know that Rick. It wasn't Rick's plan to get run out at that will definitely not right there. He's just going to get the full credit for in looks like he orchestrated. He was the victim. But then he orchestrated the whole thing. Everything worked in his favor. I mean dumb. Do you think that when Ron Clark goes to the edge of extinction at hill have to clear that up like like, no Devon's had no idea that he was he he told them to vote for Aurora. He didn't know what was happening. You Ron Clark is on point as it's. Okay. It's okay. It's not my best. Well, here's the problem is that. I guess Ron can do what he wants when he gets a edge of extinction. But was going to come down to let's say Victoria is in the final three with Lauren and Aurora. Let's just say. You know? It's going to be up to let's do it better. Let's say it's Victoria Lauren and Rick and now. It's going to be up to Victoria, and Lauren. Explain to the jury that it wasn't wreck that pulled that maneuver off. It was them, and you can say a thousand times. So you're blue in the face. It's it's you can saying it as one thing what they perceived and visually saw was another thing. And that's what's going to stick in their minds. So they have they have an uphill battle trying to. Having to be able to explain to the jury that this is what actually happened. I mean, if Rick's out of the game, it may be a lot easier to do at that point. But if they're sitting at the end with Rick, I don't see how anyone is going to talk their way out of that. Yeah. Telling in terms of we've seen some of these big swings. Go back and forth that you were on both sides of that in your season where you didn't want there to be a swing, and then you wanted to swing and couldn't get enough people to jump on board with you. Have you had any takeaways from how much people are willing to jump ship this season? And some of the things that have been successful in getting people to make those swings. Just envious of. Are you jealous? You didn't invent pilots and passengers absolutely. They're like super sexy in cool. And I was just talking about my bowels slight. Definitely got this Georgian of the stick on the metaphor of this show. I couldn't think of that. But also just watching how many free agents there are right now it like we had two pawns the play with and because people have made move so early this season like and sometimes I forget, so forgive me, if I get this wrong, but most of them flying solo now know, the only people who have been together the whole time and working together as Gavin in Victoria this point. Right. Well, I think that that's an interesting one they've they've been together. But they've never really been presented as a close allies on the show that I felt like after last night. I like that Lauren in Victoria are closer than Gavin in Victoria. But Gavin inventory have been together for for a long time. But we don't see them talk a lot one on one. They definitely we definitely don't. But they've been in that comma like they were in the group of six together the name they in the group of four together. Yup. But then there's been times where Gavin was in the six personal Lyons. When there was there was a six that voted out David Wright, and then Victoria, wasn't part of that. So it's not like the Gavin inventory are always in lockstep in the game. So like even back to my I was a little bit incorrect on setting it up. But the idea that it's not these huge chunks of people moving through the game together. It just it seems like it's giving everyone a lot more flexibility to make decisions and to have conversations like the conversation between Lauren Victoria to watch the finessed through that in how open they were to have that conversation. I definitely was having flashbacks Elec trying to talk laurel into coming with me. But at this point who was Victoria trying to pull Lauren from no-one. Really, right. It's the free agent period is is what has been created that. I wish I would have created for myself when I played do you think that this is a new thing? Have we moved beyond? Voting blocks and trust clusters. Are we in the official free agent era of survivor? I don't know. What is dumb? John. What do you think? First of all laurel was in my pocket. You're never getting. Second of all it might be. It might be this new chaotic way to play the game. Because you just I think they might be paranoid that if I don't take a swing at something not going to win this game. And again, I don't know how much of our season influence that. But whatever it is everyone seems to be making moves now like I said summer flashier than others, whether they're subtle flashy. But everyone's doesn't seem like there's any real goat. I mean, I keep hearing Aurora like they're like, oh roars like is a rower still in the game. Just because of the natural flow of the game. And there were bigger fish to fry. So she still in it, or is it because people think she's a great person to take to the end at no one will give her any votes. I'm trying to figure that out because I hear a lot of things on social media. Like, oh, yes. She's just like she's just still hanging around because they had to get rid of this person that person. But I I don't know. I feel like even she I mean, she doing kind of her own thing as well. She's not really locked into anyone. I think on a week by week basis. We see her kind of make a deal with the different person. I'm not sure how I feel about. This given Gavin the extra vol- can someone explain to me how she said I'm going to give him the extra vote because in the event that my name comes up in a tie. Like, what does that have to do with her using the extra vote? Okay. So it was the last night that she could use the extra vote. So I think that the extra vote was burning a hole in her pocket. I don't think that she wanted to be the person who had the extra vote, and then just didn't use it and let it expire. And so I guess there was going to be a scenario where if the one vote was going for Rick Devon's that then they wanted to make sure that there wasn't going to be some sort of a tie-break scenario where if they put only one vote now, I think they could have gotten away with two votes on on Ron, and then that would have done it. But Stephen it's well what if Ron Clark got scared, and then he put of another for basically, they didn't need to do it. I think it was. Probably overkill and something that could have also backfired on her. Also, if Gavin well, you know, put an extra couple of votes on Ron or on a raw. Well, that's what I'm saying. If if the game plan was for Aurora to give the extra vote to Gavin to put on Ron why couldn't Aurora put it on Ron herself. Why does she have to hand it to Gavin is what my question because of it ended up with two votes for Ron to votes Aurora Dane on a tiebreak, then Ron in rural won't vote. And so then I'm not sure that she wouldn't be able to vote again on the tiebreak. That was her reasoning was like if I walked in the Thai vote when you go to revote, I don't the extra vote is no longer in play. So I think she was trying to make sure even if there was a tie that her side would still have that expert doesn't make sense. I'm trying trying to get it at the end of the day. Anyone could write Ron's name down on the extra vote my right or wrong. Yes. So why did Gavin have to do it as my question? I don't care if there's a tire not a tight. It's not like the extra vote can be used in tiebreaker. Like in a revote is what I'm saying. Right. Can't use the extra vote and re-vote. So. Hey, you can't I could have really, oh, I didn't know that give it still. They were planning on whatever we can move on from this. It's just that. It makes sense to me if we're gonna we're gonna write Ron's name down on the extra vote. Why does Gavin have to write it? Yeah. I don't know why she didn't give it to say Lauren who would have been maybe more trusted. Okay. Yeah. But who's more trustworthy than herself as my point? Look say that ROY has been dying to give us an extra four. And she got it. Don't get it. Get it someone who will explain it to me at some point. Tell me I'm crazy. Maybe this is a rule that's existed forever. I've never known about it. She just wanted to get sent to go styling. Okay. Here's vote that didn't get a used in survivor thirty eight it'll be auroras about. Wait. Wait, wait. I wasn't a show you say assuming I was shot at you count. Yes. I assumed very much that it was a shot. It was not vote went to ghost island. Oh, I see. Oh, I see. I did not. Every Jack burden me, and your sub conscious redact to also redact that state. Okay. Oh getting getting heated now. Last night was the family visit on survivor, of course, both of you had. Important parts to play in the family. Visit on your season. I have to say a full disclosure. I was thinking about the ghost island family visit and I was trying to remember who got voted out on the ghost island family. Visit I was like, oh, it must've been it must've been kellyn. And I said, wait. No, no. But kellyn made it to seven and that wasn't the one with the family visit. And it took me about a good five minutes thinking about it to try to. Remember who was who was the person that went out before killing wasn't Iraq? See bass, it wasn't Angela. And I felt. When I looked it up. I could not for the life of me. Remember who it was? And it was of course, the great Chelsea. Chelsea. Girl. I could not remember for anything. I have a hard time remember myself. So. I remember all of it very much thing. Full of it. Yeah. Touch on something. This conversation we had leading into loved ones. Visit not actually with me. But with the group, I remember, I remember hearing Callan say on more than one occasion guys. Just let me see my brother clay. And then you can do whatever you want with me after that Jarrah falls. That is true. I would say that. Was it about that ploy? Or was it honest or a little it was a little bit of right? Like, I knew that you and window like anytime you guys were getting sniffing out. Anyone making moves against NVIDIA like the way you to death right away. All that stuff that I would be toast. So it was a little bit. I just felt so much safer playing that like I mean, I've said it was really the mother bear of the Nevada family. And I think talking about my brother in that way and talking about the loved ones in that way. I felt like it was really my persona like we're all together, we're all in. We're all gonna get our family here. And let's do this together. I would say it was like sixty percents forty percents strategy in sixty percent. Like, I really did want that moment from other wars. You wanted that moment, but I will say that after the loved one visit episode. That's I think that's when the claws came out. Kelly. Did you invent the Ron Clark strategy of? Hey, let's just play for the loved ones. Visit. I mean, practically yeah. I ever legend. I game changers. Playing to the loved ones. Yes. This is amazing. I do think that Iran. He was a love comma, which play for the family. Visit let's won't won't that feel so great when we're all here together from comma with a loved one won't feel so good. So. Yeah. I mean, there's some similarities there is. I mean me and Ron Clark just Twinsies. Yeah. I thought this was a great Aassir vision from the great youtuber him who tweeted about how I like how Ron used the Logist get to the family visit as a strategy, and it didn't work, and then he makes it to the family visit and is promptly voted out survivor at it's finest. Look at that. That would almost be thing if the same thing happened account, would it be if thing it would be. Yeah. It would be a trend or whatever we would call. It would be thing some kind, but she lets 'cause the great Chelsea was the bigger target and had to go the clause came out because I back into a corn. Don't put me in a corner. I'll kill ya. Yeah. Well, we saw that really the impetus for the big move last night. Was you know, Victoria, was saying like, oh, well that was very telling who Ron took with him on the family reward. And if I recall kellyn that U2. were upset about the decisions that were made by the winners of the loved ones. Visit. The voice I. They via move was. To for us to get together pulled on over and take shot. Like if we were playing to win all of us should have done. Not. I don't know how everyone else wasn't just like super Epping fired up. I was so pissed can't that day. Just being like, can you believe what they just did like right in front of our faces? Like, this is so ridiculous. I'm willing to go down swinging because I'm not gonna sit here take this. I think was with me Chelsea she knew she was like on the trapping block. So man, I just couldn't get laurel fired f- enough. Get her fired up enough. Maybe she needed to have a, you know, her brother came, maybe she needed her boyfriend or something to like get her like the ones you want to see more. Wow. I apparently, I don't know. What? Yeah. What could we have done more? Get her more mad like our brothers. I could see like we have the two brothers. They were like looking at each other. They're definitely friends like, I'm no your brother wants you to come back and work with me just do. Not try creating a new alliance on day, thirty two. Planted that see a few weeks earlier, you just came with this great idea at thirty two guys weren't playing in the free agent era. Oh, it was still trust clusters and all that nonsense. I was trying to play free agent just before my time. Now, who is it that one the loved ones was it you dumb or was it Wendell know Sebastian. Okay, then. Yeah. Then. You know, he picked all the boys. Yes. Which go over. Well, Tanaka did not go. Well. Real quick. I just wanna say like, I I was fighting for my life to win that thing because it might show full effort. My wife would have legitimately clawed my throat with her nails. But at the same time when I didn't win. There was a wave of relief that came over me. And I mean, you see you see the effect. I don't know how much of an impact it had on. Ron's departure from the game. What it it's eight? Put a damper on your game. I mean, I don't know. Can you tell me, I did you just what was your impression of Sebastian after that? Or was it just like whatever, I don't know. Because I I went so I don't know. But I just went how angry was oh like how he felt and stuff dealing with not taking us. I'm saying how was it? Like, did you feel animosity towards him specifically or just the group of the boys that went well, I didn't at first because a while back. I told Sebastian like, we cannot people do not know how close we are. We cannot each other for rewards like you have to stay in the boys club, and I stay out here like each other. And so when he didn't choose me out like a good job Sebastian like in the I was so upset also like, okay, he did it because I told him not to all of that. But then when he got back to camp with in a couple days later, we were talking about it. And his like, I'm so sorry. I didn't bring you. You like I feel really bad about like, it's okay. We said we weren't gonna take each other on rewards and intrusive is like, oh, I did remember that we made that. I just really liked Donnegan story. And then I was pissed. But was there any talk of we should vote Sebastian out because he was the person that didn't take us on the reward. No because we're obviously not on his plans. I don't think I mean, I was trying to protect Sebastian. I thought I could get him to swing with me. What I needed him to mistake. I didn't even bring it up. I wonder what would have have I wonder if Laura would have been willing to flip. If that's what we would have been saying, I have a new theory, Vince laurel would have flipped anytime. You guys presented an an idea to vote me out. She was on board with it. But anytime that idea was a Wendell out. She was like let me see let me think about it. So I don't know if but simultaneously. Is that true? I mean, I don't remember ever being on board for either of them. But definitely true that maybe her ears would perk up a little bit more. If we were talking about. Why didn't it happen? Because I think she would get like this second thought and then later reveal game plan to me right before tribal council time. Yeah. And she would always say to me like directly like Callan. Like, why would I switch with you? Like, you aren't going to be loyal to me. And it just wasn't enough to say like, but you're not going to beat you aren't gonna win. And I remember being so frustrated with her out there. And then when when they showed her staying that on TV, like, I know it would be better chances for me to win if I lip, but it's more likely to the end if I don't she was telling that truth out there we've really seen this Burrell where people are are making the moves that are not being successful. I really the lesson that survivor wants to take away that it is better to make the move that doesn't alternately work, then potentially way too long to may. Make one of these moves, Tom. Yeah. That's that's that's the should be the lesson every season. I'm a big believer. In swing. Swing swing. Even me. I'm a victim of not swinging. You know what I mean? And I think. I think I think the future of the game is really going to be people that run headfirst right through this game from start to finish. And. It'll be a. It'll be a lot of bump in and smashing into things along the way. But at the end, they'll be one person who ran faster through the game and harder through the game than the other two people. And I think at some point the game will be the final three or the final four will be. It depends. It depends. If they continue to cast quiet players or not, you know, what I mean, like you'll always have the seasons where you have these really big players big characters people making moves big flashy moves, but there's always on that same season. You'll always have the quiet people sitting back waiting their turn not pulling the trigger on things. So. I don't know. I'd like to see obviously, I think everyone would like to see that the game is full, you know, more full of of people who are playing harder and taking bigger swings. And I don't know if that's going to change the way casting is going now. And I know there's been some changes there. But. I just feel like it's it's it's going to be a balls to the wall game from this point forward. I hope I mean, it seems like it's hard to really keep track of what's going on right now in this season. But I think that's because so many people are deciding to do things. Yeah. Are we in danger of not being able to follow what's going on? And this is one of the more complicated seasons that I have been covering of the show. And I think that this is a season. Nineteen of me podcasting about the show Callan. If everybody is making all these moves combined with all these advantages and everything that's going on is it almost a getting too hard to follow for the viewer. Definitely for new picking up new viewership like even an RC's which was fairly slow season. People who just watched too. I knew just to watch. We're like, we don't really know. What's happening? There's all this terminology, and what are these different idols in things in? So for new people to come in watch the show in understand what's happening in the nuance. They're gonna have to take the showed ninety minutes, at least I would think because it just jumps around too much. I'll tell you the first time ever, maybe I I've been really struggling to remember who was on. What starting try? Which I guess is. Maybe a fun thing. That's what everybody wants Reid is to not have people keep their original alliances. But it is getting pretty fast. And because there is not it's not like a basketball. They're like rules in people do similar things. It's just people can do whatever they want. They can be human and be as extreme as possible. And I think a microcosm example of how it's getting a little out of control is maybe sound like an old lady. But I don't really like it that they let people get into groups in talk at tribal, okay? It you know, it's too hard with the Julia travel. It was crazy. But you can't really pick up. What's happening? And so I feel like that's microcosmic example, everything getting more complicated and moving more quickly in it's harder for the viewer to follow or no you to both played a recent season. There was even a little bit of that in tribal council that neither of you attended in the Stephanie Gonzalez tribal council where she was getting up and moving around Dominic. Do you think that's a problem for the show? It's a problem for the show because the viewer the game is essentially a game of human poker. And the viewer wants to partake in the game. They wanna see how crafty they are. And if they can read on what's going on, and they wanna participate from their couch in the best way that they can. And when when you have these chaotic moments, and it's just jumbled, and you can't break it down into what is going on it takes element away from the viewer who's trying to really be a part of the experience in determining who's going to get voted out. So for me, I think that's that's hurting the viewership. Again, I don't know that it's, you know, they're losing viewers over it. But I would say as as a fan and someone who watches the show I want to be able to figure out and say this person's going home because this this this, and this I know there's always misdirection through the added, and they're going to do that to keep you guessing and get yourself to the end. But there's no reason why we have these real confused. Moments in the game. Where like you just have no idea what's going on. But I guess if it's part of the storyline. Then I guess you kind of have to keep it in there. But I'm with law with Callum. Sorry. I with Carolina. I'm with Cal. With with gallon about these ninety minute episodes. Why are we not doing ninety minute episodes? Right. It's hard to find a half an hour show. That's going to be on after. But maybe they could do some sort of a live like after shell. That would be citing. What are they have on? Now. I know they have the amazing race right now. Right. Otherwise, it's like the four hundred fiftieth version of NCIS, right? NCIS edge of extinction. And bring your guns here. They say. Yeah. Has this analogy been made survivor loves analogies? But I feel like that the game is a little bit like. Musical chairs where basically there's going to be one less seat at tribal council each time. And now it's just like a mad dash for everybody just to find a seat, and it's not necessarily like you can follow the storyline of like any group of people that's going to work the other. It's like the music about the stop. And then we just need, you know, one person out of there and everybody's just like an a mad scramble to find their seat for the next tribal council. I'm sorry. Didn't isn't that. What happened with Julia vote though, didn't like being like a standup consensus like we're going to vote. Julia s. Yes. That's that's what it seems. Like, right. That's exactly what ended up being. And like, she's the poor girl. Standing looking for chair saying we're all right? Thanks, guys. I appreciate you ganging up on me. So there's going to be moments like that in the game. Now, that's what it's come to. Where it's like you said it's just a mad dash for that last seat. I want to ask you about the reactions from the jury, and they said, you don't like it when people are walking around and Trump accountable. Do you think the jury is getting out of control? No, I love it. Well, in because they just I mean, I just have still much even I cannot understand what they're going through. I can't have empathy for them. But I have sent to the for them, and they have nothing to do for days on end. And like it's their like going to the Super Bowl every three nights and getting to watch and just watching them enjoy it. I think it really shows if you take a moment and think about it really shows how how little. Action seeing and stimuli that they're getting la- truly living on a deserted island. So I love watching them have a good time. I think it's going to make it really interesting to see how votes go down. I were out there on the edge of extinction. I know this would not be for the viewers. But y'all know I wasn't playing for the viewers. But shouldn't they all just make a pact like whoever whichever one of us gets back in the game? If we make it to the end, we're all voting we're a crew I wonder if that's something they're thinking at out there, but I really like watching their bonds. And it's like they're big night out every three nights, they go to the movies, and they deserve to have a little bit of enjoyment time. And it's been fun watched the players in the game really amp up how much they are interacting with the jury. And that's what it's about. Right. These are the people who get to choose who wins the money. So to seen more of that dynamic. I find it really interesting Joan, do you think that that actually has happened of whoever comes back from the edge extinction that person who's going to win? I think if they make it to the final three I think they will have wide made some hat, wouldn't you Don if you were in there if we were all out there on the edge of extinction. Wouldn't I like if one of us gets back into the end, we while those guys we're going to get the money. I guess that's possible. I don't think that's what's happening -ality. I think would I think there is. Let's think of this calendar. There's a. When you guys were Ponderosa. I mean, look how the votes went for a Wendell and myself five and five. So there wasn't this big consensus at Ponderosa for you guys writes haffey thought one way half you thought another, but think about not having that distraction of relaxing on a hammock and partying a little bit. And maybe go into another island, whatever it is that they're doing upon Rosa with that they're not getting to do this time. So now, it's almost like they're just absorbed purely in the game or the thinking about home or the thinking about the game or they're thinking about home. And now I'm getting the impression that that. There's a lot of conversation about who the group thinks is running the game. And then as another person gets eliminated that conversation just get bigger and bigger, but I feel like it's going to have an impact on the final three vote in a way that it's it's gonna be really lopsided one for you know, the majority of the people are gonna vote for one specific person. That's the impression I'm. Getting what I don't know. Because his all these new, you know, the twist coming up with the final four fire making and coming back into the game from extinction. I don't know like think about it this way like if let's say the consensus consensus believe that Rick should win the game. But let's say Victoria gets voted out goes to extinction comes back in from winning the challenge. And then winds fire making that'll have a huge change in the consensus of everyone voting one way for Rick now, they might be like, oh, this Victoria, really just you know, did a lot to get to the end of this game. So there's a lot of things that stilling to happen. I really figure out how it's going to happen. But I would say at the present moment is a lot of large group conversation regarding the people at edge of extinction thinking about who deserves to win this game at this point. But who knows what will happen in the next few travels. I don't even know how you do the calculus on some of this stuff where you. You you know, there's so much has happened in this season. When it comes down to the final three these people everybody talks about like their resume. But it's like, okay. Well, I made this big move this big move. I came back from the edge of extinction. Okay. Well, I made this big move, and I won these three challenges. And then I also made of fire at the final four like is. There's so many milestones and accomplishments that well I had an I got the extra vote, and then I won these two challenges enter award, and I had this one medium sized move. But I don't know how to early that. We're going to get through this final travel council, and then have thirteen people ask questions. Yeah. I think that a lot of it's going to have to do with just who makes you feel good as well. You know, I think that's true. It's gonna be all it comes down to. Yeah. Isn't that? Always what it comes down to go. Yeah. I mean, most of most of the time some people, I mean, I don't know that's entirely true. Because I don't think Chris noble me more than one. Yes. And I'm saying, I think they bonded with Wendell that better than they bonded with me. But they for whatever reason talked about they respected my game more. So I don't know. I would say I I would say eighty percent of the people there will vote in favor of who makes them feel better. And they like, but you never know you might be able to switch another one or two people. If you have a really brilliant game that you can speak of and if you speak, well, if you're good at delivering your final, you know, lay out of everything you've done, and why you've been out there playing, and if you can put a little emotion into it and really display something you will be able to switch people. I mean, even in my final tribal. I know I switch people's minds, and I know window switch people's minds. You know, that's basically what we heard some people were locked in load in like, no, no, this is the way I'm voting is the way I'm voting, but there were people that were going. One way and switched on both sides. And so it is possible to to sell yourself when you're out there. You just have to like I said you have to have a good story. You have to be able to sell it. Well, and you have to have a likeability factor, which is the most important part of it. Okay. I wanna start to bring in questions from the listeners of the podcast and Limbaugh's-s. I think Brendan Fitzpatrick who thought that maybe the two of you might consider starting your own podcast in the future. What do you guys? Think of a survivor podcasts called the dumb and kellyn podcast. Yeah. That was pretty clever. It's good catchy for Cadbury. Catchy. You sound. Yeah. It sounds like something I've heard before. Nathan Fuhrer wants to ask Callanan two of my favorite players RJ around the loved ones. Visit we often hear people say they're inspired to change. What are some of the most significant changes you've each made in your life post survivor could be profound trivial or anything in between? And this was something. We hear Julie say this last night where she said, oh, I'm going to be a better wife and a mother and you'll you'll see, and I do think that when we were out there on the island. We think a lot about you know, how we're going to be different people when we come back from the show, but do either of you have anything that turned out to be sort of like a lasting change from when you play the game. Kellen? Yeah. I definitely I think the one thing that's the there are many many things. I mean me Mehan Dom relationship is one of those things which we could talk about a little bit. But the one thing that I decided out there which was we played the game. Like if you want a million dollars. What would you do with it? Obviously a lot out in the real world people play the game of if you win the lottery, what are you gonna do tomorrow? And almost everyone says something completely different than what was on their docket for the next day. And I just decided out there looking up at the stars at night that idol wanna live a life where if I won the lottery the next day. I just wanna drop everything and start over. So I really try to live my life in a way of like, of course, not all days, and you can't just throw away all responsibilities. But I just never want to be one of those people that just complaints complaints. Complains in a rut in a riot in. Retinas not willing to make changes snow. Take risks, though, if tonight you win the lottery tomorrow, you'll at least want to do half of what you were planning on doing. So I think that's the biggest change in my life that I somehow enough I read it in the stars or found within myself. I actually think I was inspired by all of these people who I met in played with like Dom was this amazing pig. Life is beautiful family, and Sebastian webs is fishing life. And all these people were so inspiring going for big dreams. And I decided I wanted to be one of those people too. So yeah, I said it was short it was still long kellyn style. But that's what is your dream killing. Can you share with us? Yeah. I mean, I definitely want to start my own business some day, and I do a little bit on the side. It's it's so cheesy in the world right now to have life coach his career coaches, or whatever I'm still navigating it, but I think I want to be like a transition coach where I help. People I've been through divorce on reality TV have changed my career many times in. So my my dream is build a business where I can help keep all be there. Find their best sells three transition. All right, inspired. Yes. It was very good. Did you say if I win the lottery, I'm burning my house to the ground? Driving to work throwing down the gauntlet. Sipping everybody the bird. Dr Anne, Vegas alone. I'll put the kids up in a hotel somewhere. Let's not be ridiculous. Not just not all true. Some of it true. Through. Okay. Let me give you some more questions. I Aaron wants an Dominic if he ever played with war dog. How do you think that you would interact with him in the game? Ward. That's interesting. We have a lot of the same characteristics. I would say that will either work together or we'll try to make sure the other doesn't outsmart the other right? So will be on defense. But I think the one thing that I can say is true for both of us is that if we think we can beat each other at the end, we'd probably work together. If we thought that I'd have to know that he also thought that you know, what I mean? So in that process. Now, we probably kill each. Oh, I don't know. It's tough. We we share kind of the same mindset. He's. I'm not going to say he's he seems so much more erotic than. Yeah. I was gonna say he seem. Yeah. A little more than I think I had a Radic moments. But then like the next day, I'm like chill where I notice Warren dog would have a big night. I notice war dog would have a big night. And then like, I think that one example is when he talked to Gavin the next day and kinda talk down like I just stepped away and like having your right, man. You know, whatever it is. But again, you don't know the circumstances in the moment. There's a lot of things you gotta take into consideration. But I don't know. I it's hard to tell you don't you don't really know. Somebody 'til you're in that environment with them in fighting the good fight with them. And then you can determine if someone you wanna work with. Okay. This is we talk it way. Can we talk about the the one the the war? The one dog though, the wand off. The war. Can we talk of the war dog in the remote is? Yes. Yes. Okay. Did you see this secret scene? Kelly. Like re will goes sleep. Do. This is what I sleep pack your shit and go sleeping. It was the best thing. I ever see. If I can let me see if I if I can play. So this was one of the clips from the secret scenes from this week because we heard at the end of the episode last week where they tease where Reme was like, dude. I promise you they you can bet your air, and you're going to hear it from me tomorrow. And I guess that's sort of like this conversation picks up where that left off. This is from the secret scenes from this spent this past week. A lot of people, and I'm going to be kind and not saying they knew the evening, but you can bet your around you're going to get it tomorrow for me, just so you know, that expectation. Bideri? Now war dog. I'm not bitter. I think that you're mature I don't have the energy to deal with bake via fi gotta beef with you can't be fake about it will and water. So why are you even sitting next me waters over there on over to? You are in. I don't wanna deal with your tonight. I will deal with tomorrow. When I feel like going. Don't kill me. What I am going talk. It only listen three strays. What I don't wanna look. What I don't want. Anybody else? Be Debbie down on me. It's tough right now. Still in the game and Griffin. I even have a