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"ron klain" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"It. Ron Klain is really bad at this. This is your argument of this is this is good as anybody could have done. No, it's not. No, it's not. And if this is as good as anybody could have done, then we can't do this well. This was awful. This was horrible. And it still is you, Ron Clain left Americans behind. You Want us to forget that we're not doing it, man? We're not gonna forget that Joe Biden bragged about getting 90% of the Americans out who brags about not completing the mission. Who brags What kind of humorous these people have. Do you understand how much Ron Plain hates you and hates the American people? And like the gas lighting that this Saul is My gosh, it staggers the mind. Honestly, they're going to be people in the political left, especially in Indiana because he's trying to defend him. Just don't Don't don't. And if you see me during the Jewish holidays, which to be a favor, just turn the other way. Just look the don't look me in the eye. You don't You don't deserve it. If you're going to try and defend this guy and these statements, which are indefensible. But I will discuss this pro Biden conversation. And we will cut directly to the bone. Because it must be done. That's coming up right now. Matt Bear. He has traffic. Alright, looking at the sound side. It is a crash South bound east three before 4 65 vehicle on the side. Still some police out there working on the crash and sweeping things have expected delay if you're coming Sounds bound the E Street just watch out for that area. Also, we're looking at west about 4 65 stopping 65 past 31 on the Northeast side. Westbound 4 65 little bit of carefully around 69. Not too bad. The traffic sponsored Indeed, decorative concrete. There is still time to get the backyard of your dreams Book a project this weekend. Any decorative concrete will get you in this season in the decorative concrete dot com I'm at Bear with traffic on the fires. Follow us on Twitter at W IBC Traffic. What's Time to sell your house? She talked to Eric Forney. Eric Forney is the guy who knows how to get your household. It's not just about putting a sign in the yard. It's about marketing. It's about a plan. It's about a strategy.
US denies Iran claims of prisoner deal; UK plays it down
"The state department is denying a report that deals have been reached with Iran for the release of U. S. and British prisoners but he might not be as although the you try harder isn't going to get you twenty five dollars off the house to meet your daughter citing unidentified sources Iran state television reported what it described as for American spice would be swapped for for Aronian prisoners and seven billion dollars state TV is run by hardliners in the report comes amid a power struggle between hard liners in the relatively moderate government of Iranian president Hassan Rouhani raising the prospect the report was intended to disrupt talks in Vienna on resuscitating Iran's nuclear deal with world powers state department spokesman that prices simply report sent a prisoner swap deal has been reached are not true my president Biden's chief of staff Ron Klain tells CBS's face the nation the U. S. is working very hard to get the Americans released but so far there's no agreement Ben Thomas Washington
"ron klain" Discussed on POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing
"About talented against americans in the last couple months canoes very very dem lawmakers have floated a few policy fixes to address the rise in hate crimes during the pandemic including one last week from maine and senator macy hirono that would bolster law enforcement's response to hate crimes against asian-americans. Meanwhile democrats big election reform. Bill is headed for a vote in the senate chuck schumer said yesterday. He'll put the four. The people act on the senate floor and he slammed. Gop efforts to limit voting access in state houses around the country. Now dem's talking about creating an exception to pass election reform with just fifty one votes and if you're wondering what joe manchin thinks about that surprise. He threw cold water on the idea yesterday. Mansion told politico senate. Chief burgess everett quote. No no no. That's like being a little bit pregnant. Maybe okay joe. And another skeptic senator dianne feinstein said. She's not yet sold on nixing filibuster. She's worried it could backfire. On democrats of the gop takes back control of congress. Meanwhile in the white house biden's team seems to be warming up to the idea of changing the status quo increasingly. They're thinking the president's agenda will be at risk if the current rules state in place. According to to people familiar with the discussions at the heart of their argument is this if the filibuster is used to stymie voting and civil rights legislation the minority in the senate will remain protected to the detriment of minority voters. Also today bilateral talks with china. Three three hour meetings are expected to be held today and friday secretary of state. Antony blinken am national security advisor. Jake sullivan will be meeting with senior. Chinese diplomat's the meetings will be the first high-level us china talks under the biden administration biden thursday the president. Mvp harris will get the president's daily brief at nine thirty this morning. The president will deliver remarks on the state of vaccinations at three fifteen press. Secretary jen psaki and hud secretary. Marcia fudge will hold a press briefing at twelve thirty pm. The vice president will ceremonially swear deb holland as interior secretary at ten. Thirty harris will meet with women leaders and the labor community to discuss the american rescue plan at eleven. Fifteen at six fifteen this evening harris will ceremonies wherein catherine tie as u. s. t. tr. She's the first woman of color to hold the trade representative post and of i for the biden administration. She got a unanimous confirmation..
"ron klain" Discussed on NBC Meet the Press
"Welcome back data download time a new president new congressional makeup. Same old partisan divides right. yes enough. There's the traditional red blue divide. You're very familiar with but there's a lot more below the surface going on in both artists but set the tape about four and ten registered voters. Identify either as democrats leaned democratic in the latest. Nbc news poll. It's a little fewer than that that identifies republicans lean republicans on the other side the remainder of what we call the very hard independence or people that simply don't care to answer but if you dig into those too partisan groups in fact find that four. Political parties are emerging in the data. Let me show you seventeen percent. Consider themselves to be mostly supporters of former president. Donald trump. We're gonna call them. The trump republican another seventeen percent call themselves supporters of the republican party. More so than donald trump the traditional republican another seventeen percent as you see there. Let's look at the other side of the seventeen percent. Say they are. Democrats who support. Joe biden in the primaries. We're going to call them. The by democrats. Another seventeen percent supported more. Left leaning candidates senators bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. Yes you are reading this right. That is seventeen across the board visit. Get more evenly divided than that and those breakdowns could matter when it comes to governing. Let me show you trump. Republicans are firmly against compromising with biden in order to gain consensus on legislation. As you can see but party republicans they feel very differently with more than half in favor of making compromises with biden order to gain some consensus on legislation on the democratic side. The divisor there too. They're not they're not as wide. Though seven and ten biden. democrats want congressional democrats. Do work on passing the by agenda but among the more liberal sanders warned democrats support for passenger by agenda still high but falls to sixty percent. So you see that growing gap book. Are we ready to be a four party system. We europe no probably not. But if you understand this four-party world you can actually make it easier on yourself to form a governing coalition. Something the by white house and they want to think about when we come back in washington really turn the page after the tumultuous trump. Welcome back so. Let's focus on impeachment mish. What's the politics of this country going to look like after impeachment. It's a great question. And in some ways i think the politics of this country is gonna look much like. It looked like right after the siege on capitol hill. There are so many democrats who want to see. President trump held accountable and to see him barred from office. Because they don't want to. See a resurgence of president trump in particular Or his brand politics that was so embedded in in racist tropes in white supremacy critics would say but then you see republicans like mike rounds who say yes. The election was free and fair but we should still go out and make sure we spend time investigating it. That's going to be if that's what a someone who believes that election was free and fair says you can imagine what the people who don't believe the election for your for would say and one other thing. I think it's really interesting. That joe biden in calling for bipartisanship. He's having to contend with republicans who voted to say that he wasn't illegitimately elected. President david brooks. How do we deal with the trump era with on the accountability. Front i mean. Look at the latest stuff out of the justice department. I mean it just gets more cringe-worthy by that by the drip especially if he ends up acquitted. I'm all for prosecuting. Everybody did everything wrong. I'm all for prosecuting as impeachment. I'm hoping it'll just be like a passing wind like wheel. Go on for two days will have an extremely partisan vote and then we can get back to the new america. The joe biden america I have faith that the senate could do impeachment and covert at the same time. If lyndon baines johnson were up there henry clay. But but you know. I see the three stooges up there and the game couldn't shoot straight so i just don't have faith in the sentence capacity wealth at once. I hope they do it. Get it out the way in a couple of days and move on tim alberta. What's the republican party. Look like after impeachment. Chuck it's pretty interesting. I've spoken with a number of republicans in recent days including a couple of republicans. Who are going to run for. President in two thousand twenty four and what i've heard has been pretty striking. That many of them actually would like to see president trump convicted. Whether or not they'll follow through on that vote remains to be seen but they'd like to see president trump convicted. What they fear. Is that right now. without a conviction the president has already begun to fade from public consciousness. His twitter feed was taken away. He's not the eight hundred pound gorilla dominating the news cycle. They fear that a conviction could actually sort of drag him right back stage making martyr of him and actually allow him in some strange way to exercise even more influence more control over the party. Moving forward then if they were just to let him alone and let him sort of fade into obscurity on his own. I tell you. I don't think any of us expected how powerful the d platforming would be in suddenly getting him to fade away. It's a reminder. He's kind of a little bit lazy and figuring out how to get around it before we go. We have a word about someone who has been a huge influence on me on my executive producer. Frankly all of us at nbc news. Tom brokaw he is one of those men who truly needs. No introduction. Particularly here is retiring after fifty seven years at this network. We need another hour to name everything. Tom has done here but does he wrote to me yesterday. The first television news broadcast i saw was the huntley brinkley. Report and i was hooked by nineteen sixty six. I was briefing david brinkley. On ronald reagan's campaign for governor of california and that was quickly followed by white house correspondent during nixon and watergate host of today anchor of nightly news an interim anchor of meet the press. Tom went on to say. I never tired of it. And the men and women of nbc were and will remain family forever. You know andrea. I got the privilege. After the tragedy of tim's death in two thousand eight to basically be tom's wing man as he was the interim host here at the press one thing he instilled into me says nbc other networks may do some other things better than us but nobody does politics better than us. Don't forget it andrew. Well that's absolutely true. And he coined the phrase the greatest generation the book he wrote in one thousand nine hundred eight after his first trip to normandy and ninety four it just think about one day i think about december nine th two thousand fifteen the day. That candidate trump announced the muslim ban. Tom was in new york. Having three hours of chemo his arm and an iv with one hand he writes an essay and he writes an essay and flies to dc about the dangers of paranoia. Trumping reason about the internment of japanese-americans about mccarthy about you know the way black americans speaking and then he speaks about this muslim american who enlisted after nine eleven and that. He has a permanent home in arlington. That same night. He goes to the german embassy. I was there and he gets the highest possible award from the german government for what he did in nineteen eighty nine in front of the berlin wall. The only american anchor to foresee what was going to happen to be there because of the great reporter he is was the great writer so he's to see and he's not going away the diplomat right. Now let's come in a way not going away. He's an important touchstone for me on a weekly biweekly basis. For all of us. And you're gonna be hearing a lot. Thank you tom. we love you. That's all for today..
"ron klain" Discussed on NBC Meet the Press
"As you said at the top of the show the president chief economic adviser is meeting by phone. Zoom today. with sixteen senators Eight democrats eight republicans. Were reaching out to people. I don't think bipartisanship in speed our enemies of one. Another the need is urgent. Americans both democrats and republicans are dying kids schools that take care of both democratic and republican. Kids are closed. People are unemployment people in food lines. That's not a party issue. So i think. Let's try to move on a bipartisan basis. Let's try to move quickly. Speed is very important here. Chuck are you willing. For instance to table your push for upping the minimum wage if it gotcha the ten republicans you needed and you got everything else chuck. I'm not going to negotiate. Meet the press and our goal is to raise. The minimum wage is something that well. It's the most effective way to get things done in my view. But look here's the point though. Which is the president. Put a plan before the country. And i think that's what the cut she wanted to hear again without delving back into the past. I think we didn't have this kind of leadership before he said. Here's what needs to happen and we're very dedicated to passing the minimum wage. We think that's an urgent priority. We're gonna push the congress to pass our priorities and that includes the minimum wage and so what What we want to do is work with the congress. Reach out to members in both parties. See what we can get done as quickly as possible We certainly think the minimum wage should be part of this urgent relief package. I want to ask you about Your relationship already. With senate republicans mitch. Mcconnell joe biden. We know they have a long personal history How how would you describe the cooperation. You feel you've gotten so far from senate republicans you know chuck. I think by and large. We've seen a lot of progress on this front obviously we got Some senate hearings held a held by. Republican led committees for our nominees Before the switch over here this past week We seen Obviously two of our cabinet nominees confirmed already a director hanes secretary austin and we hope to get votes a number of others this week. Look i wish that we could get a little less republican blocking on secretary designate. My orcas. it's very important to have a head of homeland. Security critical need our homeland. Obviously always under threats. I wish we could move that a little faster. Hopefully we'll see progress this week. But we're grateful to the senate republicans who worked with us on these national. Security nominees is is President biden ever gonna tell the public how he would vote out. He wants senators to vote on the impeachment. Trial is that something he will share publicly before before. I don't know chuck i mean. I think he's busy doing his job. Which is being president fixing these crisis. We've been talking about He's not a center. He's not gonna vote on impeachment. So i think his focus is on being president not on doing the job he used to have which is being a us. Senator ron claim there is about seven thousand other issues. i'd like to ask questions about but You know how do you tackle elephant one bite at a time. We did our first ten minute. Bu today ron clean cheap staff president biden. Thank you for coming on and sharing your perspective. Sir you gotta come.
"ron klain" Discussed on NBC Meet the Press
"Nbc news projected president trump the winner in north carolina and call. Joe biden the apparent winner in georgia. Meaning the results are close enough that the outcome could depend on the recount that is currently underway. That's when we use the word apparent whenever it can slip into recount territory as we mentioned earlier biden has matched trump's three zero six two two thirty two electoral vote margin of four years ago. President refuses to concede just reiterated again on social media and republicans have either backed his false claims of fraud or have remained silent. We invited every single republican. Senator appear on meet the press. This morning they all declined but we are very pleased. That republican governor hutchinson of arkansas has agreed to join us this morning. Governor thank you welcome back. And in fact i hope to talk to as much about covert as we do about politics here but let me get the politics out of the way. Who do you believe won the election. Expect joe biden to be the next press. The united states good actually to see president. Trump trump tweeted out that He won. I think that's a start of an acknowledgement and it is very important. That joe biden have access to the intelligence briefings to make sure that he is prepared. During times of transition our enemies have an opportunity to try to take advantage of us. We wanna make sure that there is a smooth transition particularly when it comes to the vaccine distribution corona virus that everybody understands what we're doing there and what the plan is for the future. Are you concerned that the next president of the united states joe biden is going to have a large chunk of your party's rank and file not accept the legitimacy of this election Because president trump keeps fading false narratives out there while it is important that we accept the outcome of the election. And there's a process to get there. it is There are some constitutional assertions and pennsylvania. There's a recount in georgia. It is important that those processes go through and that probably is the reason you president does not want to undermine those legitimate processes by jumping ahead and conceding the election but we still have to start that transition in the end. You're absolutely right. We need to come together. As a nation there's not the department of homeland security indicated this week that there's not any evidence of rampant fraud in the election that would undermine the result. We need to accept the result. Once that process is completed. Come together and recognize you pull together as a nation and you're a former your former. Dhs veteran there. I assume you trust those folks there. Actually it's chris. Crabs is one of the team members who made that finding this week and i was briefed by him on the election. Security issues probably ten months ago and it was interesting that As he briefed the governor's that he said patients. You have to have but we have systems in place to make sure that we can have an honest election free of fraud this year. There's always some challenges but we have a great system and our democracy to work through those ends so yes. I have confidence in what he has done and his statement. I'm gonna put up a graph here of cases for covid. You know the graph. Well you've had a mask mandate going for a while. Cases are rising rising everywhere. You're not alone here. What do you need from the federal government now. That could help you deal with this. 'cause i get the sense you her doctor allstone. I think you're all at your at your sort of people could argue can do x you do why. But there's some things that you're limited in doing without the support of the federal government. What do you need well. it's very important understand. And this was a little bit offensive The implication in previous interview. That's nothing's being done currently and i'll be having a meeting tomorrow with the white house. Krona virus taskforce. They're very engaged. They're providing support for the states. We're dependent upon them in terms of our reagents for antigen are testing capacity that supplies coming and it's increasing so a lot is being done. We're coordinating with him. On our vaccine distribution which is critical to have in place very quickly because once they have the emergency use authorization. I expect that vaccine to be out for medical care providers within twenty four hours. What do we need. We need to make sure that we have the support in those terms and that that was resources continue. Were not going to be able to put restrictions on our economy to get us out of this. It is wrong to tell people you're out of business without giving financial support. I think that point was made by dr hostal home that you cannot do that without providing compensation because it's a taking of government and that's the last thing that we need to do right now. What are your advisers telling. You would be the best way to start to get this to plateau in your state because it does seem as if we can't get this surge to plateau right now. Well it is very very worrisome. And as you know i put together. Our winter taskforce primarily looking at the hospitalization issue that is sorta governs everything. That happens because you wanna have a hospital space for covid patients but also for others that have needs. That require elective surgery and so We're engaged that what has to be done. Is everybody do simply what the medical professionals are. Scientists say maly that is To protect yourself and others by following the public health guidelines we have a mask mandate but you cannot have a mask mandate It does send a great signal. It does increase compliance. But there's never one hundred percent compliance and that's a challenge that we have right now before. I let you go on january twenty first lose the leader of the republican party on jeep. Well first of all. I've been through that situation before and we'll let new leadership but there'll be a lot of different voices clearly. President trump will have a voice for a long time and the party. Anybody that can generate those kind of crowds That's ahead the accomplishments that he has had in office. He will have an influence for some time to come. But there'll be other influencers and there's going to be a significant debate as to exactly the direction of our party. Our fundamentals are sale. This election was a good election. For republicans we just did not make the presidency but overall governors house senate. Legislators puts us in very very good position for the future the public still embraces the republican philosophy that we have put forth will continue to debate that has to be refined absence. Republican from arkansas always appreciate your willingness to come on. Come on here and you're always very respectful. I appreciate that. Thank you sir. Thank you many of president. Trump supporters marched in washington yesterday. Echoing the president's false claims that the election was rigged. So what is president. Trump's not concession strategy.
President Elect Biden Names His First White House Chief Of Staff
"Greene. President elect Joe Biden has named his first Cabinet pick. It is Ron claim he is Biden's new White House chief of staff. Plane is a longtime Democratic adviser and consultant. He was a key part of the Obama Biden administration by and says there are two fronts on which claim has the necessary experience. He led the last economic recovery after the great recession. And he had advised President Obama on the Ebola's crisis. Let's talk this through with NPR political correspondent, Asthma College Hospital Morning. Good morning, so run claim, maybe not a household name. For most people. Certainly a name people in the Democratic Party and who have worked in Democratic White House is no, very well tells more about him. That's right. You know, David. He's been close to Joe Biden for years when by the became vice president in 2008 he selected, Ron claimed as his first chief of staff. He also worked as a top aide to him back in the eighties, when Biden was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He was also an adviser to bite in on his two previous failed presidential bids s O claim, You know, he is a longtime Democratic operative. He has worked in some capacity for nearly every recent Democratic presidential campaign. But in a statement he called this appointment, the quote honor of a lifetime. Mm. Okay. So buying has known him and familiarity could be really important for the job of White House chief of staff. When it comes that relationship with the president talked more about why Biden chosen. Yeah, you know, in a statement, biting, called claim invaluable and highlighted his work on both the economic recovery and then the Ebola's crisis. You know, In addition, inheriting a public health crisis with a Corona virus pandemic, the Biden team is acutely aware that they're going to need to deal with the recession and actually spoke to Ron Klain about this two months ago. At that time, he was telling me how he felt that Biden's experience with the 2000 and nine Recovery Act would help him with a shaky economy. Now they had experienced doling out millions of dollars with stimulus funds and ensuring transparency and accountability. And, you know, Ron was Biden's chief of staff at that time later, he was also named the Obama administration's Ebola's are and so in choosing him now as chief of staff. To me. It sends a sign of where the Biden administration's focus will be once they step into the White House. I think it's fair to say this is not been a normal transition so far. Does this pick say anything about how the president elect is is handling this moment? You know, I will say it to me. It suggests two major things. David. One is it gives us a window right into Joe Biden's priorities and his focus both of the pandemic as well as the economic recovery. But it also shows that Biden is moving ahead in shaping an administration. Despite President Trump's reluctance to accept the results. You know, the president remains in denial of reality. Just yesterday evening, he tweeted out a video of his supporters with the phrase We will win in all capital letters, even though the election is over. NPR political correspondent. Asthma holiday Asthma Thank you.
Biden names Ron Klain as his White House chief of staff
"Going on the assumption that he has won the presidency has chosen chosen longtime longtime longtime adviser adviser adviser Ron Ron Ron Claims Claims Claims Service. Service. Service. His His His chief chief chief of of of staff staff staff plane plane plane was was was a a a top top top aide aide aide to to to then then then Senator Senator Senator Biden Biden Biden back back back in in in the the the late late late eighties, eighties, eighties, and and and for for for a a a time time time he he he was was was also also also a a a high high high ranking ranking ranking member member member of of of Biden's vice presidential staff.
Biden will reportedly name Ron Klain his chief of staff
"Joe Biden and Ron claim have been together for a long time claimed was the chief of staff to then Vice President Joe Biden in his first term and will hold that same title for an incoming president. Biden claim was also chief of staff for then Vice President Al Gore in 2014. He was selected to coordinate the Obama White House response to the Ebola's outbreak, celebrating the survival of the doctor who contracted that deadly virus shows that our health care system can successfully identify Isolate and treatable a patient. This election emphasizes Biden's focus on corralling the new Corona virus. But the president elect also says claim is well equipped to face the challenge of working with a divided Congress.
Ron Klain to serve as Biden's chief of staff
"A top adviser to Joe Biden, who's worked with him since the 19 eighties, has been selected to become the incoming White House chief of staff. Joe Biden and Ron claim have been together for a long time claimed was the chief of staff to then Vice President Joe Biden in his first term and will hold that same title for an incoming president. Biden claim was also chief of staff for then Vice President Al Gore in 2014. He was selected to coordinate the Obama White House response to the Ebola's outbreak, celebrating the survival of the doctor who had contracted that deadly virus shows that our health care system can successfully identify. Isolate and treatable a patient. This election emphasizes Biden's focus on corralling the new Corona virus. But the president elect also says claim is well equipped to face the challenge of working with a divided Congress.
President-Elect Joe Biden Selects Ron Klain as His White House Chief of Staff
"Up in wilmington. The slogan is slow and steady wins the race and today ron claim surprising. No one was appointed chief of staff but already it seems like a kaleidoscopic differences incompetence from the existing administration i envision joe biden actually at home looking at one of those home decor posters that say grammy and the serenity to change the accept the things i can't change the courage to change the things i can and wisdom to know the difference. He is moving forward Less than a week from having election results with trying to build his administration trying to transition and prepare for inauguration day in prepare to govern. You have this announcement of ron clain. His chief of staff and you're right surprising no one but you also have the announcement the you know the people that are going to be involved in these agency review teams and that caught our interest over one thousand nine news dot org because you have more than half of those people being women forty percent of them being folks from historically underrepresented communities like the lgbtq community the disabled community communities of color and these people that both president elect biden and mana vice president elect harris alleged in their acceptance speeches on saturday. You know giving a nod to lgbtq folks the disabled communities of color who the coalition that helped him get elected. And this is definitely an early indication that these people may also have a role in shaping policy and how he plans to
Biden chooses longtime adviser Ron Klain as chief of staff
"A top adviser to Joe Biden who's worked with him since the nineteen eighties has been selected to become the incoming White House chief of staff Joe Biden and run clean have been together for a long time claim was the chief of staff to then vice president Joe Biden in his first term and will hold that same title for an incoming president by Dan claim was also chief of staff for then vice president Al Gore in twenty fourteen he was selected to coordinate the Obama White House response to the Ebola outbreak celebrating the survival of a doctor who contracted that deadly but research shows that our health care system can successfully identify isolate and treatable patient this selection emphasizes by didn't focus on corralling the new coronavirus but the president elect also says clean is well equipped to face the challenge of working with a divided Congress Jackie Quinn Washington
Biden names Ron Klain as chief of staff
"Elect Joe Biden, announcing the appointment of Ron claimed as White House chief of staff and assistant to the president claim was most recently a senior advisor to the Biden for president campaign. And has previously served the president elect in a number of roles, including as his chief of staff when he became vice president claim is also known for his role as the White House Ebola response coordinator at the height of that public health crisis.
Biden names Ron Klain as his White House chief of staff
"Has confirmed that President elect Biden has chosen Ron claimed as White House chief of staff. The 59 year old has worked in a number of positions with Mr Biden since 1988.
E.U. Rejects Belarus Election, Calls for Sanctions On Responsible Parties
"Now we turn to Belarus where President Alexander. Lukashenko still clings to power after claiming victory in elections that were widely condemned as fraudulent after the brutal crackdown on protesters that the EU says that it'll impose sanctions on those responsible for. Violence repression and election fraud and is called for new elections. Lukashenko says no to new elections unless quote you kill me but his support appears to be slipping away. One of Lukashenko senior diplomats has defected to democracy activists. He is ambassador to Slovakia Ego, less Kanye, and he's joining me now from Bratislav. Ambassador Welcome. To. The program. I wonder if you can tell me at what point you decided to to break with your government and from a high position and turn towards those who are seeking democracy in your country. I. Full of news I followed we. Followed them very himbal believers of dodgers and use of force against demonstrators eat it was really something horrible zimet the east. Of Zip feature of national character of the Larosiere. Is that was my also scientist show and of course, I was shocked. and. Of course, some more or less pragmatic. WAS ADDED IN ONE Mesh of Bruce His. Classmate of my daughter as parallel will never was listed in trouble. So Devos her over. Over my my personal, my CB perception of the. And the basal of
"ron klain" Discussed on Here's The Deal
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"ron klain" Discussed on Here's The Deal
"Could possibly face people who provides some advice and and and lodging information on their crony virus crisis that we're facing so each week I'm going to try to do is be joined by one of those experts. Someone who can offer us some helpful information then. The two of us will answer questions from you and our first episode. I'm going to be joined by. Ron Ron is an outside adviser to my campaign. The ABOL response in President Obama's administration in two thousand fourteen. And so he's GonNa talk to us about a few things first. About how President. Trump downplays this crisis. How he has rattled public confidence and delayed our country's response next. We'll talk a bit about my plan with the federal government. What they should be doing now when I say now. I mean immediately to combat this crisis and finally take on some questions from our listeners. So with that. I'd like to welcome Ron. Who's an old friend to the show? Ron How're you? How good thank you. Sir. It's a pleasure to be with you on your very first good to be doing my very first podcast. Things are changing on awful lot. And Ron I'm going to with your permission. Ask if you questions. If that's okay sounds great. Let's do it Ron. I think it'd be helpful if you could walk our listeners. Through the question on top of everyone's mind is there a shortage of testing? And why does that exist threes? Well this is one of the biggest problems we see with the krona virus. Response as you've said instruments President ROTAVIRUS ISN'T DONALD TRUMP'S FALL. But how we respond to it is. And there's no issue that illustrates that more than this testing fiasco Donald Trump didn't take the steps needed to get the testing in place as a result. Compared to almost every other developed nation. Were behind on getting people. Tested probably done about one. Twenty fifth of the tests per capita that South Korea has done and Lee both countries had their first taste of the exact same day. There's no reason why this country should be so far behind. Nations like South Korea. Intesting it's p. but we have the same technology. We have came experts. We have even better doctors and healthcare facilities yet. Were really far behind that problem fall squarely on the shoulders of president trump and his administration. I I'm determined that this should not be political. This is not about partisan politics. It's about how rapidly we can put in motion the initiatives that are going to save people's lives and get us through this process. And I thank you for clarifying. The World Organization had the formula. We could've used immediately instead of waiting and developing our own way of proceeding. Let me ask you another question if I may. A lot of our listeners are interested in how we as a country handled past health crises when the crisis it you were my an President Obama's first pick handle it. Take us through that moment. And what you did you personally when we ask you to do it. The president asked me to do it. What did you do on Day One? Well you know Mr I suppose you're you're there you remember it very well. What you and the president told me on day one was to put science i. I'm not a scientist. I'm not a doctor. Then the problem we had at the time was that you had great advice from science and doctors. We're trying to having trouble kind of getting. It implemented trouble getting the treatments into West Africa trouble getting are hospitals ready all these logistical challenges and so the direction from President Obama from you Vice President Biden was. Let's take the best advice from scientists and doctors and turn that advice into action at. I think by contrast we've seen here with the trump response to viruses a failure of both things. The president notoriously is rejecting the advice of scientists and doctors. He's not listening to people who are telling. He didn't in January and February when these experts were telling him. We have a big problem. Who's going out downplaying? The problem he was saying latest February willing have shifting cases down to five and a little little while. You just wasn't listening to this great experts. We have in the government non arson experts. Doctor Faust serve all the way back to Ronald Reagan and is still working on this and Dr J. Dr Xu Pot people. I work with on the ABOL response. They've been different decades. He just kind of pushed all these people aside. What was whatever he went is politics gut. That's very different from what you and President Obama ordered during the response and I know it's also very very different than the way you've been seeking Mr Vice President about the response to Corona virus. And I guess I'd like to turn the tables a little bit and ask you to take a few minutes to talk about your plans for dealing with corona virus. Which I know was so heavily influenced by the leading scientists leading medical experts. You've consulted were. Can you just talk to the people listening to us about your plan? What the key elements of your plan. Our first of all I should let people know that with your help. I put together a panel of experts including former heads of the CDC and other organizations and who are not actively administration. Now and. I do With your help and coordination and others daily brief and they give me a detailed outline ahead of time with charts showing the trend lines In our country and other countries and so on how many tests etc so I think there are few key things that we should be looking at and there's a Important thing that my plan is as I said informed by scientists I. We're GONNA make sure that testing is widely available and free because we learned early on. There was a fear of people that if I go get a test is gonNA cost model this money. How can I pay for it? What will I do and free but available and that everyone needs to test could get it and we need to establish these mobile testing sites. We came up with the idea of at least ten of these mobile testing sites per state and drive through facilities to speed testing as well as protect the healthcare workers. Because that's a grave concern as you all know developing concern secondly from the experience I watched you and our military put together in Africa the ability for us to be able to provide mobile hospitals. And I don't just means a two hospital ships we have. They're important but mobile hospitals on the ground in places where you can determine ahead of time. There's going to be a significant influx of people needing hospital beds and ICU units. And so we talked about that female. Us military. I argued to be setting up these emergency hospitals. That can be dropped in a parking lot. There needed for example. Now you know there's there's one being open the javits center. There's three of them going up. This is a little late but finally the governor got The White House to and and the National Guard to move but my point is that provided for mobile hospitals. You know have to be. I'm obviously not a either but you don't have to be a doctor and you don't have to be clairvoyant to know where they're going to need these hospitals These additional beds. I should say and third thing I argued for as we were going to need to make sure that we're protecting the doctors nurses and all the healthcare workers on the front lines. That means the protective gear so that they can be safe as they protect corona virus patients. You know the president We argued I argued. I said had to in fact invoked the defense production act which to the average. American is like a lot of mumble jumble but what it means is he has the power under the law to go to a private sector company and say want you to stop producing what you're producing begin to produce the things we badly need. We'll compensate you for it. But that's how it gets done to provide for protective gear like facemask critical like ventilators. That are so desperately needed our hospitals. And we're a nation. We're the ones that built the arsenal democracy in the forties and we can make personal protective equipment to healthcare workers in twenty twenty. Look we did back in nineteen in the forties and so it means accelerating our work on cures and vaccines as well as doing other protective things. We have to do to finally overcome this pandemic. And as you know we've worked on things and when as vice president dealing with cures act and other may mechanisms were investing money to look ahead. Look down the road not just waiting for waiting for what is on our plate. The fourth thing we had to do was is that Finally Ron is that as about economic aid people are going to need our help and our guiding principle has to keep everyone paid through this crisis. Be Able to get a check that they've been getting. We should be doing everything in our power to keep workers on payrolls keep small businesses afloat and helped economy come out the other side strong. It means it. Means providing guaranteed emergency sick leave in caregiving homecare giving leave it means increasing social security checks by a couple of hundred dollars a month. It means forgiving a minimum of ten thousand dollars per person of federal student loans. We saw how as we came through the last economic crisis. This generation got way behind the eight ball because of the difficulty that took us to get out of that and we got out of it. But get out of that God awful mess and means all these things and more and Ron. The point is we need to put families. I during this crisis. Because it's that that's what it's about I mean and it's one imagine you're in a situation where you have no very little equity in your home. You're renting an apartment. You have no savings you know. I've spoken a lot over the campaign unrelated to this about how you have a significant portion American public. Who if they got a bill for four hundred dollars that they didn't expect they'd have to borrow the money and go out and sell something? Well there's a lot of people are just getting by as day today today. That's the essence of where I think we should be focusing. But it's not yet now now now yes. I think that's I think that's really helpful. People Vice President. I think it's important for people to know that. You're talking almost every day with top economists about what to do about this you're talking to congressional leaders on Capitol Hill and and making the point that it's important that as we fight this economic crisis who focus on people in families not corporations. We help the people who need it. The singles Mrs and not just big corporations who are in Washington right now looking for government handouts and so your leadership on this. I know it's been very important behind the scenes and I think it's great to let people hear from you directly about what you're fighting for now. It's time for some questions from our listeners. And Ron you stick around for a few more minutes.
"ron klain" Discussed on Skullduggery
"For the presidential election Congress can mandate availability of mail in ballots. I hope bill. I know people on Capitol Hill or talking about that as a possible measure. There is the election date in November and set federal. Statute president trump cannot delay the election. We cannot postpone the election. He cannot stop the election but we could take steps to make sure that voters can vote safely no matter what's going on by letting them vote by mail It's as you said. It's true about half the states for more than half the country in terms where people live. Everyone should have that option. It's now pretty clear. That Biden is going to be the nominee Their reports today that the Biden campaign is talking to senior people in the sanders campaign about getting him to drop out. Can you shed any light on where things stand and when you expect Bernie Sanders to to get out of the race? If he's going to get out of the race we'll look I think that's Senator Sanders decision. He has Iran a very strong campaign Now twice he has millions of supporters. He's raised money for more donors than any person in American political history and he's earned the right to continue on in whatever fashion to continue on. I do think the math is pretty clear that Joe Biden is going to be the nominee of the Democratic Party and I think the sooner we unite as a party to take on Donald Trump the better. But that's a decision for Senator Sanders and supporters to make and not one that I is Joe Biden versus should be weighing in on it. But you don't think Ron that Given that we're in this this national emergency a a a real crisis that there is an added reason for for Sanders to get out and to unify the party. Look again I think the solution for Senator Sanders to make and I think you know among the things Senator Sanders is doing is doing some really important work on responded to that and can be some interesting ideas on this the economic issues. We discussed earlier in this conversation. And so you know He he should be focused on that and not on the campaign if he doesn't WanNa be and so You Know I. I think that it's really important that we respect Sanders Sanders decision making process here We I grateful citizens that he is working. So hard on this response That's where his focuses on. Try to get help to people who need it on making sure. This doesn't become an excuse for wasteful corporate bailouts. The kinds of things that senator sanders always fought for I WANNA see him. Continue that fight. Obviously the bite site in the Senate Joe Biden. Go fight the White House but look I think the timing and nature with which these campaigns come together in which we take on Donald Trump. That's up to Senator Sanders. I what I know is he has said from the start that he will support the Democratic nominee and his voice his supporters are going to be critical to Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This fall one A political issue. That's also a national security issue here is China and it's been very clear especially over the last week as the trump White House has finally decided to take the seriously that they're putting a lot of blame on the Chinese for not being more forthcoming about what they knew about the spread of the virus The president is openly calling it A China Virus Wuhan virus as you look at the way the Chinese have handled this is their legitimacy to some of the critique. We're hearing from the White House. And how is the Biden campaign planning to talk about China and the Chinese role in this? Let's be very clear I've been very critical. The Chinese from the start Joe Biden very critical of the Chinese from the start. You hasn't been critical Chinese. Donald Trump on January twenty four. Th solids tweeted that the Chinese were doing a great job that they were transparent that they were controlling the virus and that he was grateful to President Xi for his leadership so when it mattered in January when we when when Vice President Biden calling on the Chinese to let American scientists in China to study this virus and to figure out what was going on and the Chinese will refusing that request. President trump was slathering. The praise on president she even has president. She was denying access of our scientists to the data. So now that this has gone out of control now when it's too late president trump all of a sudden has found his voice and blaming China. So let's be clear China's responsible for the mistakes they made in handling this that president trump praised those mistakes. He praised the president of China. He's playing the Transparent at the very moment where we could have saved American lives by pressing against China. So if anyone owns the China issue in this campaign it's Donald Trump and it's his handling of this response. Is it okay to call this China virus or one virus? I think early on people called it. The Wuhan Virus I myself Did that early on. I think that but I think as this developed. I think we got more. We're the fact that that is not the way to do it. It certainly should be called the China virus that's just the effort to make this political discriminatory and I think that it's important And I've also been saying this for months that public officials speak out against anti Chinese American discrimination. That we're seeing in this country. Bullying hate attacks that we show our support for the Chinese American community in this country when the president stands there calls it a China virus now after we let the Chinese government off the hook two months ago. All these destroying racism WHO's not fighting disease and that's not helping us. It's also for people to understand that this virus strikes everyone. Chinese Americans are no more likely to carry it and spread it than anyone else. That's just racism Ron just as we're winding down here one more kind of prescriptive question which is as someone who ran the White House response to a a health emergency as the Abullah Czar. I wonder if going forward if you've begun to think about the kinds of things that the federal government can and should be doing so that there is a common emergency response plan in place that was easily handed off from administration to administration some of these things. You may have already done. I'd like to hear about that but in terms of all the things that we need to do. In the event of future outbreaks protocols for ramping up fast testing for getting emergency supplies out there quickly a national stockpile of ventilators a national policy on quarantines. What needs to be done going forward. What have you learned from the failures in the response to this pandemic so what we learned lessons from a Bola and one of the lessons that we learned was that we need to be prepared for the next one and so when I step down once we got. The epidemic was staffer under control in the spring of Twenty fifteen and I stepped out I recommended to the President Vice President that they create a permanent office in the White House the charge of pandemic prevention response and in the fall. Twenty fifteen they did that created the Global Health Security Directorate in the National Security Council. Put a great professionally. Best Camera in charge of that office to bake the kinds of plans to face. This kind of thing Anyone who's been still knew this day was coming. We didn't win and where we knew it was coming and President. Obama put places Structure Plan for Donald Trump took over to cap that structure important again. This isn't a partisan thing trump kept the structure and he brought a person. Admiral Tim Zimmer who had been a senior disease fighting expert in the Bush administration and put him in charge of this office and that stayed until the day John took over the National Security Council and John Bolton disbanded the unit Admiral Zimmer back to the State Department I took a couple of you that put bioterrorism fighting unit at but got rid of the pandemic preparation response unit and he said basically you know this is a healthcare problem. Not National. Security Problem Let. Hhs fight it. We shouldn't think about this as a national security we need to shrink the NFC and there is no question in my mind that we were less prepared for this and responded less quickly because there was no one at the White House after the summer. Twenty eighteen in charge of preparing for and planning for this response. And that's a decision out at president. Trump's assistant takes no responsibility for even though it was made by it's national security buzzer. Even though it was publicly criticised at the time I wrote a piece week. Davis decision came down. It was the wrong decision. Say we pay a price for it back in two thousand eighteen and a couple of weeks ago when trump was I asked about it before he disclaimed responsibility. He said it was a big waste of money and we could get experts back anytime he wanted. So we made the president a conscious decision with John Bolton to D- prepare the country from where we were to disband the unit. Getting US ready. I should point out that John Bolton's book was originally supposed to be released this week It's now been delayed at least a couple of months and a lot of us are going to be wondering If he Addresses this issue as well as everything else. He planned to address in the book but Iran. This has been a great discussion. We really appreciate you giving us the time and your insights and stay safe and we definitely hope to have you back. Got Appreciate the compensate. Thanks so much. Ron Yup Safe. I.
"ron klain" Discussed on Skullduggery
"ISIKOFF chief. Investigative correspondent for Yahoo News. And I'm Dan Kleinman editor in chief of Yahoo News. I think people are really not going to be all that interested in hearing US camera about this subject this time. Because we have such a great guest Ron Plane. Who was the former Obama Administration of Bola? Czar has spent many years in government and the White House on the hill. I've known Ron. I think he was since he was the twenty-seven-year-old chief counsel to Joe Biden when he was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. This is a guy kind of a rare figure in Washington who is kind of expert on politics governing and policy so kind of a triple threat and has been incredibly eloquent and said a lot of really important things on on this current crisis that we're dealing with someone who I think. The trump administration would like to have had as part of their arsenal. Yeah and we should point out that he's also would be at the top of anybody's list to take a senior position very senior position. I would think in any future Biden administration assuming that Biden wins the election. In the fall you know. It's interesting. He when he was tapped to be Ebola czar there was actually some criticism from Republicans on Capitol Hill. Who said well you know? Claims really a political operative. He doesn't have the necessary background for this and there was one quote. That really leaped out at me. I came across. This is back from two thousand fourteen of course and this from Ted Cruz. We don't need another so-called czar. We need presidential leadership. This is a public health crisis that was cruise talking about Ebola in two thousand fourteen. But I think the words might well apply to Where we are right now with corona virus I think so and you know Look people I'm sure also said that you need a medical doctor a position like that which of course Mike Pence isn't who is now. The Corona virus are inside the White House. Even if that's not a term that this president uses but look Ron Clain is someone who has an enormous amount of experience dealing with this and I think people would be wise to listen to this whole conversation. I'm sure it's going to be a really good one so let's get to it. Hey wait a second to cough before we go. I just WANNA put in a plug for Ron's new podcast on corona virus which he co host with Dr Selene Gander an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist for anyone who wants to know where this pandemic is going what needs to be done to contain. It's spread the politics of the crisis. And how families and communities can prepare for it. Epidemic is a must-listen wherever you get your podcasts. Now on with the show. We're really pleased to have ron clean on the PODCAST No one knows more about the complexities of the government. Response to a pandemic than Ron who served as President Obama's Ebola czar and before that was chief of staff to Vice President Gore and Joe Biden and has been a longtime political adviser to Biden. Who today is the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee? So Ron Welcome to Duggary. Welcome back to skulduggery. I should say yes. I am pleased to make my second appearance on skullduggery. The second of many wintrust so listen here we are. We're we're all Recording this podcast from home in various forms of isolation. Apparently we're close to four months out since the outbreak of this disease since the first cases in China so give us your sense of the current state of play. What are your biggest concerns at this moment? What do we now beginning to get right? What are we still not doing? And what do you really most worried about going forward? Well you know we're really at the inflection point here where this disease is really going to explode in the US. We're having this conversation on March. Nineteen when we're looking at about eight thousand cases it's been doubling every three days and that number will even accelerate further as we finally start to get some testing on the line and we start to really understand how big a problem we have and. I think it's a very big problem. In terms of where the problem's Gonna I really crash on the shores. It's really gonNA hit us in our hospitals in our healthcare system. We've healthcare system that runs pretty much at full capacity under normal circumstances in particular right now at the end of flu. Season things like ventilators respirators. Emergency Room beds care for respiratory patients is already straining the system and then you add hundreds thousands of intensely ill patients to that. We're GONNA see dire consequences in our hospitals. We're going to see that in terms of hostels running out of beds to treat patients. We're going to see that when we're seeing that already in terms of medical professionals having to reused protective gear running out of masks in hostels but out of the basic necessities needed to treat patients. And that's kind of what's coming here. In the days ahead that will have impact not only on our response to the corona virus. Of course it will put on all kinds of medical problems was a hostile in Philadelphia that this week shutdown it's labor and delivery ward because all the Labor and delivery nurses had corona virus. So we're GONNA see this. As healthcare workers get sick as hostels get filled is going to have an impact on all aspects of our healthcare delivery in the United States. We are certainly in this conversation. Going to get into a discussion about how we ended up in this dire situation woefully unprepared. It seems to deal with this threat but I want to ask you because I think our listeners really care about this. What can be done right now to deal with this problem in other words? What are we doing to get the tests online to get the ventilators and the respirators online? What can the Federal Government do? I saw that the President. I think reluctantly signed the defense production. Act to get the private sector to bring more medical supplies online. What else can be done what needs to be done right now. We'll I look to be clear. We're in this mess because we didn't do enough to prepare for this mass when we had ample warning signs that it was coming and so what can be done. Right now are things can be done now. That will help us a couple of weeks from now but these things even if they move quickly do take time and therefore we're really going to face the next couple of weeks In a big mess. Now what did we do now? First of all we need to get control of the supply chain so today. The trump administration is taking a laws as their approach to the supply chain. President Trump told governors basically. Hey go find supplies as you can. As opposed to working with the private sector and the big producers to route the supplies to the places where they're needed the most as a result supplies they're gonNA wind up to the hospitals that have the best relationships with the producers. Was Maybe Hospitals. That really need urgently. They may not be hostels really. Need them urgently? Who's diseases hitting different cities at different times? We NEED SUPPLY CHAIN COORDINATION. Secondly we obviously need to ramp up production and they're still stories about producers not being given orders by the government to really expand production. They will only expand production if they know the government will purchase what they make. So we haven't agency the Governor called. Barda supposed to guarantee those purchases. We have a part of the government led by the Assistant Secretary for preparedness and readiness is supposed to coordinate all this and that needs to happen to kind of stimulate production. Get that going. And then we need a little more organized around this question of testing This has been the number one thing that people of flag from day one administration has just totally dropped the ball and in some ways. It's too late to be fixed because the main purpose of testing in January and February was to identify where the disease was isolated before it spread wildly. Now it's spread Hopes of isolating seem very remote. Who still need testing to figure out who has. It doesn't have it so we can help people who have it so we can keep people don't have as way as much as possible. People who do habit and so that respects by what. The administration is doing gearing up the private labs but also testing to public health departments. We still have major states where they don't have the test supplies they don't have the reagents to run the test already extraction materials to run the test and that means that people aren't getting tested when they're getting tested there waiting days literally days the results and that backup needs to be cleared. You started out by saying This is going to explode right now. Actually you said that we have more than eight thousand cases Johns Hopkins. This morning is putting the figure at nine thousand. Four hundred seventy seven with one hundred fifty five deaths so the numbers creep up by the hour but looking forward to over the next month two months three months. Where do you see those numbers? And how sustainable is it to have people? Basically self quarantined in their homes social distancing and almost the complete shutdown of economic activity. Well so Two great questions are quits. Let's breakdown so where is this going to go? I think certainly for the next couple of weeks or continue to see this doubling every few days and perhaps even faster than that as we test people really know so. We had more cases all along than we believe. And why is that? That's because the things were starting to do now. People staying at home people are not going to work all those things. They would use cases two weeks from now but the people were getting sick today. Got Sick two weeks ago where we're all at work. We're all out shopping and doing the things we were doing so everything we're doing now that's affecting the future not affecting the immediate next couple of days next couple of weeks. One hopes that if these measures are in place and affected you'll start to see this doubling every three days slow down a bit but I think that will happen for awhile. These measures are incomplete. What's a while what's a while? I think we're GONNA be. I think we're going to be at this level of activity well in through April intimate. If we're really successful at social doesn't think maybe it stops a little the Ben's a little bit sooner but certainly through April probably demet and even once it starts to bed right. We we think about curves wants. The curve starts to come down. You know the day after the curve comes down is still the second worst day ever right is a curve and and on the backside curve even as we start to get this thing under control. We're still having a lot of cases so we don't know I'd say one other thing to add on that Mike is that everyone's seen on the Internet. The flat MMA curve means a graphs and charts. And so you know what that's about is trying to avoid this giant spike once that really crashes the healthcare system and use these social mitigation measures to lower the peak lowering the peak means extending the duration. When you look at those charts which you see the what was. The big peak really goes up quickly and comes down quickly. The platinum curved thing. The thing we're aiming for makes this last longer less severe at any one point in time but longer and so in some ways. If we're doing works this will be worth with us for a longer period of time. The second question Mike asked was how long we can sustain these draconian measures and I wanna add to that which is well. Maybe we're not doing enough. I mean you know. Everyone's been talking about the Asian countries. And how well? Many of them responded to this crisis. That's in part because they were much more aggressive than we've been to this date. I mean you know total travel bans mandated quarantines a very aggressive testing and contact tracing. I mean countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong where people who have tested positive have to wear a wristband or tracked through their cell phones. Do we need to actually go much further than we've gone so I think we need to be clear about what's worked. It's the range of measures. Not all of them are more authoritarian was done. I've seen China has been a crackdown like that. Singapore action had even less social distancing. We have even less rigorous lockdowns than we've had and brought to these. Are the control better faster by doing the things we screwed up which was testing and identifying chains of transmission and using traditional public health measures kind measures. Just reused in fighting a bullet where you see. Who has it where they spreading it? Getting those people contacted isolating those people. You're that's what we should've done so it's not a choice. Between kind of freedom and authoritarianism liberty and oppression. You know good. Public Health would have played a big role and we still need to catch up on that. I think we also have to recognize that. There's only so much of the country we can lockdown. If we're GONNA sit in our homes in order it feels like someone has to make those meals and deliver them to us if our homes are going to have electricity and we're going to have cell phone service or have Wi fi and we're have water. People are going to the electric plant water. Plant the Cell Phone Cell Towers and so on so forth for every one of us at home. There are many people out in the world. Becky possible for us to be at home. And so you know a complete complete lockdown in a country that is highly developed where we can't go in the backyard and pick corn and you know cook it. Ourselves are opened fire. Where we are reliant on all these things not to mention all the healthcare workers all the people taking care of people senior citizens in the nursing homes and senior says all these things. We are always going to be a country with a lot of people out and about. So we're GONNA have to do is try to again flat curve. Those of us who can isolate in distance need to do it because it only protects us. It actually lessens the risk. All of us. Who can't do those things but just to add on that the UN told that the economic contraction is going to take Seems to me and I'm sure to a lot of people as enormous..
"ron klain" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"I find. Some way to kind of throw a few tax on the road. If you think the president is unfit if you think that there was a justified discussion about disqualifying him under the twenty fifth amendment, you need to come forward with that. Explain what the evidence for that is and let the country decide silent the congress aside. I'm not a fan of the anonymous op Ed and not a fan of the fact that there's a legion of people apparently inside our government who think that they have some kind of authority to contradict the president. They don't. They don't final question Ron. During your time working in the White House in various capacities. Ballpark figure, how many anonymous op-eds did you? Right? But that were not published zero point zero zero, zero, zero, zero. Look, I had when you have your confirmation hearing and we make the requests for those documents. We'll find out if that's true or not. You know there's a lot of stuff in documents, I'm sure, but anonymous, op-eds saying that the president I worked for was mentally unfit to serve there are none of those in the file. I assure you. That's good to hear Ron clean. Thank you so much. For being with us. Thanks for your. Thanks for having me. This is the part of the show where I talk about something that struck me and varies a piece in the daily news. The put upon daily news by woman named Barbara rests who was a construction executive for the Trump organization. And she starts out her op-ed with a story that's somewhat disturbing about Donald Trump. And she writes about how on a particular day, an architect came to Donald Trump's office to show him what the interior of the residential elevator cabs would look like that Trump Tower. And she relates that Trump look to the panels and looked at the buttons were to push to get to a floor. And notice that there were these little dots raised dots, and she says, Trump told the architect to take it off to get rid of it. The architects said, we can't. It's the law and she quotes Trump is saying, get rid of the braille. Although he used an expletive before the word braille says, get rid of the braille. No blind people are going to live and Trump Tower. Does. Do it. Trump yelled and call the architect week and I, I was taken back to the interview. We had a few weeks ago with the incredible over achieving Cyrus Habib who has not had site since age eight and all the challenges that he faced and that he overcame. And the last thing we need on top of sort of everyday people not having an understanding of the possibilities that are out there for folks who may have a particular disability. But when the president himself denigrates them and makes fun of them and doesn't even seem to know what braille is and maybe even more upsettingly doesn't seem to know what the law requires. Even though we're far away in this country from among other things, the American's Disabilities Act that was passed twenty eight years ago. It's a problem, and it reminds me also of all the good people in my office. He used to do work to enforce the Americans with Disabilities Act to make sure that restaurants were accessible, that movie theaters were accessible that bra. Theaters were accessible and took a lot of pains to enforce the law suing people when we had to one of the cases that we began when I was in the stern his office had to do with education in New York City. And you know, lots of people don't realize that if your child has a disability and the local school can accommodate you, then you have to bus yourself far far away which takes you away from your community, which takes away from the local.
"ron klain" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"So so I think you'll see a little break either form against him here at the very end. Right. So is the Senate gonna switch hands or not? Don't know. It's a very, very, very tough battlefield. We've got a great chance to pick up seats in Nevada, Arizona and Tennessee. But I think obviously we've got a number of our incumbents and very red states Senator Donald Indiana, Senator Heitkamp in North Dakota, Senator mccaskill Missouri. These are tough races and it's gonna go right down to the wire habit. The house either. We're gonna win the house. I mean, again, I think these races, lottery sales will be closely. I'll be tight, but I think that they're, you know, twenty six seats that secretary Clinton carried in two thousand sixteen that have Republican members of congress. Trump's eroded a lot, I think since then and I think that will flip most of the seats will flip some others to. And I do think we'll have a democratic majority in the house. Next year can ask you this thing because you are a gentleman and a scholar for purposes of being check on what a lot of people think is an overreaching executive in the former President Trump which body would you rather have changed hands to the democratic side, the house of the Senate for the country. I mean, look, I think in some ways it's would be more important to have the Senate if you could really choose because of its power to confirm or not confirm judges. I mean, we've talked this time about supreme court nomination, and obviously it's the central issue right now on the legal side. But you know, in some ways that even the bigger thing or just as big, a thing that President Trump has done is stacked the lower courts and the pace with which he's filled lower court. Nominations is record setting. It's amazing. This man who can't fill the government, can't keep the White House. Staff has by outsourcing. This function of the federal society has set a record for the number of judges nominated to the courts of appeals. They are younger than ever. They are more numerous than ever they're more conservative than ever and with a rep. Republican Senate in toe, they are getting confirmed at record speed. He's put more judges on the court of appeals already than Obama did in his entire first term even before this midterm election. So having a Democratic Senate as a check on that would be a really powerful inconsequential thing because I have you. I want to ask you about the raging controversy and mystery in Washington and all over the country in the past few days. And that is, who is the author of the anonymous New York Times op-ed? And I know you have said publicly because he didn't want to break the news here on this podcast I for which I will forgive you. But you said it's Dan Coats, who is he and why is it him? I think a lot of clues point to him. He's the director of national intelligence. He has publicly sparred with the president, which is a rare thing in the Trump administration. He's criticized in publicly. He's contradicted and publicly. So to me, the clues were this. I think the person who wrote it works on the national security side of the house because they've cited the to track policy on Russia as a success. I. I can't believe there's any person who actually believes Trump's policy on Russia's a success. But if that person exists, they work in national security in the Trump administration at the same time. I don't think as a general or some kind of pure national security person because the peace also talks about historic tax cuts and affective deregulation. That's the that's the rhetoric of a Republican politician. So you're looking for Republican politician who works in national security issues. It is willing to stand up to Trump coats, fits that Bill. And if you add to the fact that the piece ends with a tribute to John McCain, who was a colleague of coats and the Senate and someone who coats really liked? Yeah, I think the number of clues point, two coats, you know, I'll be disappointed if it's someone who's not a household name. Do you think that person should be resigning instead of writing up ED's anonymously? I do. I think that person I, I don't think it's an act of heroism to write an op Ed and basically say, hey, nine days out of ten, facilitate with President Trump does one day out of ten..
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"So I mean, what was really going on there was that he was prepared to use some of these committee confidential documents, and he and his colleagues were all standing up from one another. When Republicans said, if you use these documents publicly, we're going to go get you expelled from the Senate, both he Senator Ben Senator Harris ultimate center, Lahey others all kind of came together and said, hey, if you're going to go after one of us, you have to go after all of us that is the I am Spartacus moment and look. I thought Senator Booker was very effective and pudding a judge Cavin on the spot on his views on affirmative action and on his views as race as legitimate factor in government programs and his use of these documents which suggested that cavenaugh did have a very sharp view on this. I thought was very effective. So what happens now. What happens now is that the committee will meet on the thirteenth of September fourteenth of September to hold a vote. The Democrats will use their rights under committee rules to delay that vote for a week. So sometime around the twentieth twenty first of September, cavenaugh will get a vote in the judiciary committee that vote will be a straight party line vote. You believe every democrat will vote against every Republicans will vote for I do and the committee. I think that's how will play out in the committee. And then sometime after that, probably the following week, they'll be Senate debate and vote in the Senate, and that will tell so it breath cabinet gets confirmed to the court. How long before row is actually in jeopardy. I think a year or two Iowa will pass some version of a very, very restrictive abortion law. They passed it before it's been struck down before they certainly are teed up to other states. We'll do it and it will work its way up to the supreme court, whether it's later this term or the following term. Term. I don't think it will be long before we see Roe overturned in what happens in the case of another Trump nomination. Let's say God forbid one of the other justices, let's say, wanted to liberal justices. Like with mater Ginsburg leaves the court for whatever reason. What about what transpired in this confirmation process will inform what happens in a year or two years? If we have that moment will God forbid, God forbid, God forbid, let's start there answering three more times. You can say, yes, if many more times look, I think what you saw was a rising of grassroots activism. No one thing preach about this issue is historically until now, Republicans have had a lot more energy around these judicial nomination issues and Republicans have gotten their voters out on these issues and really mobilize their centers on these issues. Right Democrats much less that's in part because Republicans want to undo something and Democrats benefit of the good status quo on some of these issues. Right. I mean, you know, it's an interesting paradox because in fact we have a pretty conservative supreme court. You'd think Republicans would be happy, but on a couple of these big headline issues like abortion and like marriage equality, there have been progressive results of the supreme court. And so as a grassroots Republicans are dissatisfied, they see this is a big political issue. Democrats not so much. I think he's starting to see that change this time you saw larger protests by the anti Kabanov forces in the pro cabinet forces saw the anti Cavin enforces bringing a lot of heat on the Senate. So I do think the tide is turning, and I think in the next nomination, if not may may be cavenaugh will be defeated. Even if he's not. I think the pressure from the left will continue to grow will get better and better about organizing and mobilizing on these issues. And I think, and we'll be even more effective in the Senate next time. Do you think Kevin is going to get any democratic votes? He might might get a few. I think it kind of depends. I think if Murkowski and Collins vote against Cavanaugh, I think you might get all the Democrats in line. If because nobody has nobody has the courage to want to be the deciding vote. Correct. So you know these complete and they'll vote against correct. I mean, these things tend not to go by one vote one way or the other..
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"And is the next question from the prosecutor when I deny it going to be, we'll weren't you at such and such place at such and such date. Now, we don't know if the Harris has had or not. She won't lows. I tend to believe that she has some basis and she said she has a basis, but I think actually there should be a lot more questioning like that. Not that hearings in the Senate should all be prosecutorial proceedings, but we need a lot more of that. And I'd say one of the thing about that Kavanagh's testimony for the committee was I can't answer your questions about Trump being subject to a subpoena. I can't answer your questions about the reach of prosecutors ability to come after President Trump because those questions may come before me and it would be inappropriate for me to discuss them with you. Members of the Senate Judiciary committee, fine. But if it's inappropriate from discuss them with members of Senate Judiciary committee, who was he discussing these questions with? And his inability to say about her question? Oh, look, I couldn't have talked anyone to Kasowitz law firm. 'cause I've never talked to anybody about the molar investigation. I just finished telling you be inappropriate for me to discuss. Right? So I must not have discussed it with anyone. You know that. As the non answer kind of belies his core position about these questions before the committee, because clearly he's thinking as mine. I talked to to someone about this. I don't know if there's at chasm wits firm or not you if you give them the most benign interpretation of his non-answer it's an implicit admission that he has discussed these issues with other people. And if he's discussing with other people than he should discuss them with the Senate Judiciary committee? Well, I believe once upon a time, then judge Thomas said he'd never discussed Ravi away with anyone ever in law school when he was there when it was decided yet. Right. Skip that day. Yeah, in does that as a bait in the class discussion, why is it though that that's inter- Harris won't just say what her basis was asking the question Dono I think it's a good question and hopefully we'll find out Cory Booker had a moment where the young people may not know what the hell he was talking about when he said I am Spartacus. Yeah, I don't think if you are smart because you're supposed to say, I am Spartacus. Someone else's say like, hey, look, he Spartacus. Yeah, I don't know about the spark could do you know what the hell was going on there? Yes..
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"He was picked because he wanted to be on the supreme court, the United States of America. Yeah. And said that the process by which Donald Trump picked him was the most extensive vetting process in American history. So he might be the most dramatic suck up on stage in White House we've ever seen. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he holds the president in high regard. It doesn't, and we'll see and look, you know, you never know. And if he's confirmed, we all have to hope for the best because we really have no choices that point in time. I mean, the only thing I'm saying is I don't know. I'm speculating about hypothesis which you're not supposed to. Do in maybe this is, you know, hope springs eternal, that if you get to this point there, isn't there some chance that he thinks to himself? Oh, my God is president actually is an abomination to the rule of law is an abomination to equal. Justice is an abomination to free press and that you know, in that position in the future when he has the job in the door has been shut behind him. Maybe he will have a different view. I'm not saying that's what we should rely on, and that's the basis on which people should vote, but isn't there some possibility that that is? So you know, look, I like a good fairy tales much as an expert and if he is confirmed that will have to be our hope. But I've hope is not a basis for vote in the US Senate. Right? And we have to vote based on the record that we've seen and the statements that he's made right and the things he's written. So speaking of votes, then that's a good segue into Susan Collins and Roe v Wade. So you have sketched out pretty persuasive brief. Here on why he's not going to be a vote to uphold Roe. Meanwhile, he went through the song and to answer the dog and pony show. Whatever metaphor you want to use. It involves showmanship with Susan Collins who said she was satisfied because brick Cavanaugh said something like really way to settle the law. Why is that meaningless? It is meaningless because you know, it simply suggests as he kind of more candidly, put it in his decision Garza, it's the existing supreme court precedent Justice course at sat before that committee in the summer of two thousand seventeen and said that he had a great respect for precedent. The president was the anchor of the law. The president was the most important thing that judges could rely on. And this past summer, he joined four of his colleagues to overturn a precedent from roughly the same era as row, a precedent that had been unanimous the Abboud decision regarding labour rights and voted to overturn it in the Janice decision this past June. And so vague statements about set. The law and precedent just don't cut it. What we do know is the cavenaugh also told the committee this time in his testimony that he leaned towards a definition of uninitiated writes from an opinion by Justice Rehnquist, and that definition definitely leans against recognizing an abortion rights. So you take his work on. The court of appeals. You take him, sang rank was was as usual hero for his dissenting row. You put all this together and it's just as clear as day as to where Bret cavenaugh is headed. If he gets confirmed, unless just also be clear. But one of the thing Preet to extent that your listeners say, we'll look. I hope Rovers his weight isn't overturn, but I live in New York or California and abortion will be legal where I am beleaguer for myself or my wife or my daughter, my sister, whatever that may turn out to be not enough protection because there are academics and there are politicians, and indeed the Iowa legislature tried to enact this last year who believed that they will not stop it overturning Roe. Oh, they will say that a fetus has rights under the fourteenth amendment and not only does the.
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"So there are signals in that decision about where he's headed on Rovers his way he had earlier that same year in two thousand seventeen giving a speech praising former chief Justice Rehnquist for being a dissenter and Roe versus Wade. He was flashing every signal he could to the anti-choice forces. I'm your guy. You're saying something really significant. Are you saying that that he actually sort of shaped his language in a particular opinion, the guards opinion as a kind of public audition for the role of supreme court Justice? You know, it seems that way to me, I think you read that opinion and it comes on top of him that same year giving a speech where he embraces chief Justice Rehnquist as his judicial hero in sites is to set and row as an example. Right. So it look, I think Brett Cavill may be clear. I think cavenaugh is certainly qualified, you know, intelligent. He's capable when he was nominated to the court of appeals. I was interviewed by the f. guys part of his background check. I said, good things about him then, but he wasn't on that list in September twenty sixteen he got that listed number twenty seventeen. And I think the Gars opinion and the statements he made about abortion between those two periods were one reason why got on the list, but we should also disclose at this point. I don't know that I said this before that in two thousand and five when he had his second hearing in the confirmation vote to go to the DC circuit court of appeals, I was canceled Senator Schumer and was on the floor when when he voted no against against Cavanaugh to be on the DC circuit. How do you think it is the case, then Ron that he got from not being on the list and then putting out these sort of no self promotional catchphrases in opinions and otherwise to actually making on the list who who did the thing that got his name on there? Well, I think that was part of it. And then I think there's a second thing that happened between the list in September two thousand sixteen and the list of November twenty seventeen. That second thing was the Muller investigation. You know, that obviously was tied something that existed in September twenty sixteen, but by November twenty seventeen Donald Trump, and his people are looking for a supreme court. Justice who might rule with him if any issues in the molar investigation make their weight and supreme court. And you know pre that's a hard thing to look for because defined someone who's going to rule the president can't be subpoenaed who's going to rule the president said subject to legal process. That's a pretty out of the mainstream view with most. Lawyers, and yet they found someone who holds those views, Brad Kavanagh. It's even worse who used to hold the opposite view exactly. Who had a recent convert to a to a to a convenient view? No, a post two thousand convert to a very, very, very extreme view of the president's immunity from legal process. Suggesting at one point in time that the classic US v Nixon case might be wrongly decided saying that president can't be subject to a subpoena writing. A whole lot of you article on how the president should be exempt from legal process. I mean, if Donald Trump was looking for someone other than Rudy Giuliani who had extolled his point of view on these legal issues, it was a very short list and Brett cavenaugh really was number one on that list type play devil's advocate for a moment. Jer. Do you think Brett Cavanaugh in other people? I came like Bill Burr Coignaud in people who were smart lawyers, conservative. No, to the right who worked for president. W Bush and also have a certain affection for towards h. w. Bush and they see President Trump demean those folks, belittle them, make fun of them in a trash folks like John McCain, who these people also liked and admired. Do you think the Brett Cavanaugh has any respect, admiration or affection for Donald Trump? It's a hard question answer previously. I don't. I don't know. I I do know that he's still leading. I'm betting not well, but I do know that he stood in the East Room on the night..
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"And so any kind of analysis you wanna do about his judicial temperament and his judicial ideologies such as it is, can be gleaned from his opinions. So who's right about that and how did that play out in your mind? I think there's no question that the committee had the right. See the. Documents. And indeed I think it had an obligation to get the document. So look, every modern nominee has turned over all their documents from prior service in the executive branch to the judiciary committee that included chief Justice Roberts who had service in the executive branch and more recently, Elena Kagan who served two different jobs in the Clinton administration, highly similar to the jobs. Brett Cavanaugh served in the Bush administration every single piece of paper. Every single one from that time was turned over to the judiciary committee and ninety nine percent of them were made public input on the internet. So with cavenaugh before you get to the issue executive privilege, the bulk of his documents weren't even requested by the committee that was his services staff secretary. Now, staff secretary sounds like kind of technical and has the word secretary in it, but it's a really important job in the White House when advisors to the president disagree, staff, secretary polls that advice together and writes up a summary advice to the president. If you think staff secretaries. And unimportant job. I can tell you the job John Podesta held and the Clinton White House before he became White House, chief of staff and cavenaugh himself says it was the most influential job at is thinking about executive power and number of other legal issues. And so those documents the committee didn't even try to get those documents. When you say the committee didn't try to get them. You mean the Republican chair, you don't mean that the Democrats didn't wanna get correct. The Republican share, Chuck Grassley broke precedent here didn't really do it on a bipartisan basis. Said, I'm in charge of the committee. I'm gonna make the document request. We won't even ask for these documents from his services staff secretary. So before we get to the question of which documents among the pile they asked for withheld because of executive privilege. The largest pile of documents from cavenaugh were never even considered by the committee, but how do you think that comes about? Do you think Grassley knows? Well, the White House will be angry if we ask for them. And is there a consultation between the White House and the judiciary chair about what should be. Requested. And if so, is that an appropriate? Yeah. So look, I think we know from reporting that Mitch McConnell said, hey, to Trump don't pick Cavanaugh because he has this document pile and I think it will be difficult to get them confirmed with all those documents. Right Trump picked him anyway. And then they went to work on, not submitting the guy had to work around. They had a double work around because they got Grassley to restrict the document request. That was the first big work around. And then for the documents they did request, they did something really extraordinarily Preet. They didn't let the national archives cement these documents. They didn't have them review which documents should be withheld by executive privilege. They had a private lawyer that former President Bush picked be the decider on what documents the committee got, and that lawyer happened to be Brett Kavanagh's. Former deputy also happens to be I should disclose a friend of mine. Yes. And I don't mean to disparage him as a lawyer, obviously very talented lawyer, but nonetheless. But he worked directly for cavenaugh, but he worked for breakfast and he is acting at the direction of the prior president, correct. He's not a lawyer who works with the committee and not a lawyer who works for the archives, which in the case of the Kagan nomination where the arbiter of what documents got turned over. So it's an extraordinary procedure on top of an extraordinary procedure on top of an extraordinary procedure, which means that really the committee saw maybe seven, eight, ten percent of the total amount of documents that should have seen from the time cavenaugh served in the White House lawyer courses the now famous Bill Burke indeed, by watch the hearings and kept hearing Senator after Senator saying who the hell is Bill Burke who indeed who, indeed indeed, well, not the person who should have been deciding what documents the Senate Judiciary committee got, but then there's a third issue with respect to the documents that's confusing to a lot of people..
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"There may be differences in policy about how to exercise discretion in terms of leniency or aggressiveness or what hoops you have to jump. Through. But the basic essence of how Justice is done in the country should not vary from president to president or administration to administration in the last day of my job. When I said, farewell, after I was fired a year and a half ago, I told the folks in my office, some of whom were not happy about what was happening in some of whom I think thought. Maybe they should leave as well. I said, look, if you're at work is the same. There's no democratic way Republican way. There's no Bama way or Trump way to prosecute fraud or to prosecute robbery or prosecute homicide. You look at the facts, you look at the law and you bring the cases that are appropriate to bring under the law and the constitution. That's it. And you know the Obama Justice department with you liked the case or not brought cases against democratic members of congress, including John Edwards. That was an ill-fated case. And the current Justice department has brought in its discretion cases recently against two Republican congressmen. And that's because the facts and the law dictate. So in a manner of speaking President Trump may wish there was something unique and different about the Trump Justice department in terms of protecting him or his cronies, but thank goodness there isn't the next question comes from Twitter from Pollock who says, sir, I listened to your podcast since episode one over time. I've heard about voting bands for past felons in three states of Florida, Kentucky and Iowa. What is the rationale behind this hashtag ask Prete. So those aren't the only states that have some form of ban on felons being able to vote, and I suppose that it could be justified in some sense in the same way that you know, there are other rights that are sometimes taken away from people who've been convicted of felonies. But as I think I've said on the show before and as I intend to say more publicly going forward, I think the idea that you have committed a felony of whatever nature and you have been sentenced to prison and you finish the prison sentence and you paid your so-called debt to society, and we're trying to reintegrate you into society and make you full fledged member. Over of your community, but the idea that you are then forever banned from voting in local or federal elections makes no sense to me. And that's coming from a former federal prosecutor who is known to be a little bit tough. I think that Florida in particular has disenfranchised millions of people. I think there's some root of racism and disenfranchisement in particular of minority communities, which I think is important. And there is a ballot initiative right now in that state, at least that I hope will pass and we'll Rian franchise a lot of folks. Thanks for the question. The next question comes also in a tweet from preempt Deshmukh who asks at pre Berar hatred, which is the best pizza joint in Manhattan. Louis answer that is very easy. It's Joe's pizza and Carmen St.. Look, I know that lots of people have strong views about pizza in New York. I like thin crust, and I have a lot of memories going Joe's late at night when I was younger person and would sometimes be out late at night. And there was one occasion where I didn't feel like. Walking all the way down from my apartment to Carmine street..