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Bohemian Rhapsody, Vice and Green Book

Pop Culture Happy Hour

27:21 min | 2 years ago

Bohemian Rhapsody, Vice and Green Book

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Comcast business having the nation's largest gig speed network was just the start. Now, they're providing gig fueled apps and solutions that exceed expectations and help businesses perform Comcast business beyond fast. What do you mean rhapsody vice and green book have in common two things one? They're nominated for best picture the Oscars and to their based on events in the lives of real people today award season leads us to a wide reaching conversation on some very different movements. I'm Stephen Thompson. And I'm Linda Holmes and today, we're talking about bohemian rhapsody vice and green book joining us in the studio is Glen Weldon the NPR arts desk, these are the three films, by the way that are nominated for best picture that we haven't already done full shows on. So we're wrapping them all up in this one lovely package, and we're going to talk first about bohemian rhapsody, which is the biographical film about Freddie, Mercury. The lead singer of Queen follows them from him from about nineteen seventy two Live Aid in nineteen eighty-five. It has been recently in the news, partly because of a published article. Revealing that Bryan singer who's the credited director who did about two thirds of the film. According to the reports we have before he was fired singer has been accused of a range of sexual misconduct including sexual assault against minors. He denies those allegations. It's kinda brought the the film back into the news along with the fact that it won the Golden Globe for drama Glenn. You reviewed siemian rhapsody for NPR back when it was first released talked to me about kind of where you come down on this phone what I thought of this movie guy brenham said tweet much pithier he said, I just saw bohemian rhapsody and learned you contract aids. From lingering I contact with unnamed male extras this film, allied 's his quickness in a really dispiriting way talking about, Freddie, Mercury. Of course, the structure of it is so familiar of the VH one behind the music chorale rise and fall from grace, but let me play devil's advocate here. It is hugely popular. When I. Saw it at a press screening with members of the citizenry non non critics. They ate it up. They laughed at every joke that I scaled up and they loved the music everybody, you talked about this film says the music's great if you have just hired a babysitter. And you want to go out and like the music of Queen. And you just want to see a film that meets every single one of your expectation all your preconceived notions about a thing are reassured all the hard edges of anything get filed down and the music is great. And maybe even if you are not homophobic. Maybe if you have a lot of gay friends, you still don't wanna see gay sex on screen. So don't shove that my face. This film delivers on a promise that I think is kind of cynical and small, but it gives you exactly what you imagine you're going to get out of a Queen biography. Okay. Stephen. I don't mean what you think about I had a lot of the same reaction that Glenn did I had the experience over the holidays where this was the movie where every one of my relatives said, what did you think I loved it so much, and then I would usually say well, and then Katie would blurt out that she hated it. And then the discussion would always boil down to, but I really love the music, and I think that this movie taps into a giant public collective love of the music of Queen that is very powerful. Now. I also don't think that this movie does a particularly effective job of staging it until the last scene. I think that during the course of the movie a lot of the performances feel very flat and very sound stagey. I did not connect with this movie at all. And I also kept bumping up against how disingenuous it felt at times this movie scrambles the chronology of fairly recent. History in some pretty ugly ways. Freddie. Mercury was not diagnosed with HIV until after Live Aid, this movie positions that very differently. This movie doesn't acknowledge in any way, shape or form some of the controversies involving Queen for example, playing in South Africa. When there was a boycott this movie feels like plot points were vetoed in a boardroom headed by Brian May of Queen. Yeah. Well, and and you never know to what degree that could have happened because Brian May and Roger Taylor also of Queen our producers on this film, and that's one of the things that always makes me suspicious of bio-pics, this movie shovels a lot of guilt onto only a couple of people. This one bad boyfriend seems to be the result of everything bad Queen ever. Did. I. There's this ridiculous seen in this movie where Queen is playing Live Aid and Bob Geldof organized. Live Aid is like nervously pacing around phones that aren't ringing until Queen shows up and performs like finally Queen showed up and saved Africa. It's. It's a very very frustrating movie. I think the Romney Malik performance at the center is very magnetic and very impressive. The music of Queen is great this movie to me is a total nonentity. I really love Romney Mallaig. I love Rami Malik mister robot. I also even really liked trauma Malik in the remake of Papillon with came out in the last year too. I didn't even particularly care for his performance in this to be honest. And I think it's because you know, you mentioned a public affection for the music of Queen Queen occupies a very peculiar place in my musical tastes, which is that I think of queens band. I like and then every time I actually listen to some Queen. I think God I love. Good. And I think similarly when you watch this final sequence, which Steven mentioned, which is the Live Aid sequence their performance at Wembley stadium during Live Aid in nineteen eighty-five, which is truly one of the best live performances by any band ever? I genuinely think that you see it through the films is and then if you go back and watch it so much better. And it's because Freddie, mercury's particular sexy weird glam fund mischievous energy is really hard to capture. And I have to tell you. I don't think they got it. And one of the things I said to Glenn is, you know, everybody who's seen. This has talked about the giant prosthetic teeth. And I truly think the teeth in the film have made it hard for Romney Malik to portray a natural smile. And I think if you watch Freddie, Mercury at actual Live Aid. There is a smile and a fun to it that I don't think comes across. In. What becomes like you mentioned? This poor tent of he has found out. He's HIV positive, and they kind of weigh it down with that as opposed to the more. I think light-hearted performance it actually is if you watch it binds a word that we don't buy around much joy. Yeah. Some joy, I think it's I think in that sense. I think even the parts of it that other people liked I didn't I didn't care for as much so bohemian rhapsody, I know has gone mentioned and as they both ended. I know how much a lot of people loved it. And I'm not dumping on them for loving it. Listen to a lot of Queen and watch that Live Aid performance, which you can still find pretty easily because it is Stettler. Okay. So the next film that we're going to talk about is vice and vice is the work of Adam McKay who came out of working on SNL and comedies with will Ferrell and stuff like that. But then also did the big short a couple years ago. Vice is the story of Dick Cheney who as you may know is the vice president of the United States for time. Oh. Oh, NPR com is. Batman is. So Dick Cheney. It follows Dick Cheney from his youth through becoming vice president. And it has a kind of a thesis. I think that Dick Cheney is responsible for essentially everything that's happened in the United States since about nineteen eighty. I don't think it makes that point very persuasively to me. And I do think that it suffers from Adam McCabe having become too fond of some of the techniques that he used in the big short that were widely praised the kind of fourth wall. Breaking the use of narration deserve say. Well, now, we're going to explain this concept to you. And it's sort of like in the big short. It was financial stuff in this film. It's the unitary executive. I think it gets bogged down in that. But to me, I don't necessarily think this movie is bad. I just think it's kind of nothing. I think it's a bunch of impersonations like do I think Christian bale kind of disappears into Dick Cheney? I think it's fair to say, but I don't care. Really? I don't think they make a good. Case for why this story is important. I don't think it's very well structured, and I do think it's entirely too fussy. There's a big gag reveal thing about the narrator that I think is ultimately very anti-climactic to me. I was like, oh, I was expecting a much more interesting. And to that tees that they were continually giving about the narration, what do you think Gwen is it possible for a film to be smug possible for film to come off? Just so self-satisfied, Freddie, for lack of a better word, this will man like it's like going to the monkey house at the zoo, you know, when you walk in, and they're showing off where you and you're like, oh, look at you Mr. monkey, and then they start playing with themselves. And then you thinking yourself, okay, now, Mr. monkey you, and I are standing at either ends of a very steep pleasure. Gradient? You are having a great time. But me watching you. I'm not having a great time. I wanna get the hell out of the book. Yes. After a while it just builds and builds and builds the point of view of this film is neither there's it's animated by sneer. And even if you agree that the object of this film deserves this near deserve. Like, if the film's motivating principle was outrage, I think it would feel more urgent, and it would feel like there's a reason. But we're watching this. But there's a glibness over and over again here you do get some sense about race. Every so often like, especially around the narrator character, you some some real stuff happens, but mostly it was just played too fast and loose too lightly. They were having such a great time at the expense of my time. Yeah. This is more a character sketch than a story, and even there, it doesn't really get it any real animating principle. I've read that Adam McKay viewed this movie as the origin story for a super villain. I guess but. It doesn't really cohere as that. There's a scene in this movie where Dick Cheney's is talking to someone. And it's like, what do we believe in? And then they all burst out laughing. Like, these people are are not motivated by any actual political philosophy and that's just false. Yeah. That's not actually true of Dick Cheney. That's not actually true of Dick Cheney who believes very very strongly in kind of an American exceptionalism and just end like displays of power cetera et cetera unitary executive as you mentioned. So this film just feels like a series of like SNL impersonations, and I think Christian bale as you said, Linda, Christian bale does get lost in the in the persona of Dick Cheney in a way that is impressive in the way that Gary Oldman playing Winston Churchill is like impressive and also sixty eight percent acting by prosthetic exam. I think that Sam Rockwell is isn't isn't a to me a fairly interesting portrayal of George. W bush. I think that's a nice performance quite similar that. I would say to Josh Brolin in w which is Oliver Stone's that kind of young Friday narrative. Well, who was still expected to be the golden boy, very similar take? Yeah. But I think that Sam Rockwell was kind of a neat bit of casting for that. I thought that worked Amy Adams who is nominated for an Oscar at playing Lynne Cheney. I never lose sight of the fact that I'm watching Amy Adams, and the one that I could not shake this entire movie with Steve Carell as Donald Rumsfeld, which that is where you really feel like okay, here's Alec Baldwin doing Donald Trump. Again, you never forget that you're watching Steve Carell at any moment, and they kind of trot out a series of celebrity impersonations in lieu of a story. This movie did not cohere into anything that really worked for me at all. And I kind of just came out of the movie the. The way I came into it a little bit. Which was why? Now, I I think that's a fair take. So now we are going to. No. And now green booked. So the thing about green book because I think that it it seems well positioned to invest picture, which I find baffling, but it will be audience award in Toronto in a year of widows and should becoming the bunch of really good films that we saw in Toronto this won the audience award. If you're not familiar with green book, it is based on real events adapted from them somewhat. Generously. I think it is about a guy named who goes by the name Tony lip. He was a driver and a bouncer and protector for Donald Shirley, who was classical and jazz pianist, very very accomplished in the nineteen sixties and who went on kind of a tour of the deep south by car and his driver was Tony lip. The movie is co written by Tony Valla Longa. Tony lips son and directed by Pierre fairly who you may know from such sensitive, racial. Dramas as there's something about Mary so live in when you saw green book us, you sort of said, it's fine. My reaction to this film. We sometimes have conversations on the show about whether you need to see a movie in the theater. Do we need to see Roman the theater? Do we need to see I man in the theater and to me the exact appropriate screen size for the movie green book is the tiny rectangle on the back of a seat on an airplane. When I watched it. I just had this experience of like, I'm just breezing through this very minor kind of airplane movie that yes would have been nominated for best picture in nineteen eighty three or nineteen eighty eight or nine hundred ninety three you could put it out at any point in the last forty years. It would be exactly the same movie Mahela Aaliyah's, Donald Shirley is very good in this movie Viggo Mortensen is doing a very broad victory victory away. But it, but it felt it felt minor and sick. Simple. And Pat, and kind of this is a comforting movie if your view of race has not evolved at all in the last forty years, the more a white person. And you're a white person the more you read interviews with Donald Shirley's family, the clearer. It is that they didn't talk to any of them or find out any actual information about Donald Shirley or how he lived his life. The movie has a great big plot point that Donald Shirley is estranged from his family and hasn't talked to his family in ages and his family says that is completely untrue. He was close with his family talked to his family all the time. The movie does not care. There's a telling moment in the Golden Globes where Nick Villalonga accepts a Golden Globe. And says boy every time I see Linda Cartolini who plays his mother every time. I see Linda Cartolini in this movie. I just think that's my mother there on the screen, and I think that's for him. The point of the movie is this is a movie about my family. And it does not give a crap about Donald. Shirley, does not give a crap about his. Experiences at all it cares about this guy who became this guy's driver for a little while the movie establishes at one point that they call him Tony lip because he be S's all the time. And it takes his word as gospel and puts it up on the screen, and that's our story of how the races can work together because this racist learns this one guys. Alright it. Uneven. I gotta madder and madder. Ever since seeing this movie, I can tell you think on you know, what I say things like this is a movie for your parents. I you know, I have been accused of ageism and that's a fair cop. I get that. But for this particular film, I believe that in this country. There is a generational divide between those who believe that racism and prejudice are the exact same thing that there's no difference between them so they seek out stories of people, overcoming prejudice because prejudice is personal prejudice is individual. And you can't it can be combated. It can be defeated through personal contact so individual reconciliate individual reconciliation so stories about friendships across the races or good people taking a stand like the help those are just keyed into this is this is their view of what racism is small personal. And I will say I do think there are still plenty of people of all ages who believe that that's Stella pernicious idea this film posits that that is the answer to racism or as fairly himself said. During a speech finding common ground. That's what that's here's the other thing. The first thing that you see Tony one of the first things you see Tony lip do in. This movie is come home to his his house discovered that his wife has allowed to black men who are working on something around the house to have a glass of lemonade and Tony lip goes over. And because these two black men have drunk out of these glasses throws the glasses away that is vicious vile racism, and the idea that the way to look at this story is Donald Shirley. And this person who throws out drinking glasses from black men who worked at his house need to find common ground. Like why that is so bizarre to me, and it is such an offensive idea. I don't understand where that's coming from. I don't think the film ever justifies. Even like, I don't think the film ever explains how Tony lip even become someone from there. Who likes Donald Shirley or is willing to spend time with him in a car? Let alone the fact that he's a vile racist seems to kind of evaporate magically once. They are on the road. I think the move bad. It's boring. It's what way too long does not justify its existence. It is so repetitive. It doesn't. There are several scenes that are basically the same scene of Donald Shirley being being turned away or treated poorly somewhere and Tony lip stepping in and sort of making it, okay? There's a really totally unjustified ending which finds Tony lips family being the center of happiness and acceptance for everyone. Oh my gosh. It bothered me so much. Oh, this movie bothers me so much so much, and I will say martial Ali is very good in it. I think it is. I think it is limping by on the power of that performance. And on the fact that. Glenn you quoted the tweet from guy brand earlier about bohemian rhapsody. I will quote one from him about green book in which he said, I think we've had enough movies about how a white person was nice in the sixties. And I will I will go with that. So as you can see three of our favorite movies of the year, you know, a couple of them good best picture chances. So we shall see. Come and find us on Facebook at Facebook dot com slash PCH. 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How Political Will This Oscar Season Get?

Little Gold Men

1:00:48 hr | 2 years ago

How Political Will This Oscar Season Get?

"Hello and welcome to little Goldman the awardees season podcast from Vanity Fair. It's such an honor to present this next award narrow nominees and the us group goes to Pandya food. And I can't deny the fact that you like me now. On the. There's mistake. Light. You guys won best picture. I'm Katie rich, the deputy editor of Vanity Fair dot com. And I'm here in New York in our studio with our chief critic Richard Lawson ten low and our digital director. Mike Hogan's, you're actually here. Love feels. So cozy to be in this room with all the padding around us, but on the line. It's always to in Robinson. We miss you. Here you're here with us in our thought here is doing. Representing the west coast, and the heartland Joanna come back to it's it's great here. You'll love it. So we're recording this on Wednesday when kind of in the the maelstrom after the midterm elections. I'm very tired. I think Mike is as well. I don't know if returned JoAnne ahead more responsible. Sleep habits lead to watch Scott Walker losing so happy. Sure that is really good feeling. So we don't wanna talk too much about the midterms because obviously there are many more wilburs political people to talk about it. But the impact that they might have on the Oscar race. I think is interesting coming off of this very political award season that we had last year. We're also gonna talk a little bit about Netflix says plan to release Rome in theaters, and what that is going to look like for them and then take another look at. But he mean rhapsody, I think which we discussed and none of us had seen except Hillary abuses who kind of weighed in on it, and then it became a huge hit. And then the back half of the episode Cam Collins is going to be back to shared interview. He did with being Lou the director of mining the gap the documentary that's on Hulu now, and we'll talk a bit more about that film later on so politics, Mike, you're up late watching the news just like the rest of us. I feel like you have been the one of us who's most willing to think about how politics effects these awards people in Hollywood, and how much they're thinking about themselves and Trump and everything else. So after all of this after this kind of valve has been released like you were saying before you recorded to kick some of this like liberal energy out. What are we going to see from on award shows? From all these people now, and I apologize in advance to the people who don't like to hear about politics. But I do think the Oscars are very political political Hollywood has has been going through an incredibly political moment and unquestionably the election of Trump to the horror of sort of liberal America. Certainly played a part in the whole metoo movement and time's up and all of that. Right. I I think what's happened with Trump is a lot of people on the progressive side of the equation have one after another looked at things that they thought were completely settled and realize that for a lot more Americans than they ever imagined. They were not settled. And also that things that they were kind of in denial about they needed to confront guess they felt like they didn't have to talk about. They suddenly said, okay. It's time to talk about this. Yeah. Right. I mean, if you think about what metoo was it was a lot of people just sharing experience that they thought was a lot more unique than it turned out to be when you know when suddenly there was this gigantic flood. I mean, I think that was an awakening. For a lot of people. So to the extent that there is a healthy silver lining of this strange period of time that we're going through. I think it's people sort of like coming terms with with issues in the world. And then taking constructive approach, in many cases, there's lots of lining and renting of garments. But there's also a lot of organizing people have gotten into politics. I see so many people that I know have said like I was phone banking. I was you know out there like helping people at end. So that's really interesting. But yes now that there's been this one achievement in in for Democrats for progressives in taking back the house. I do suspect. An after a full year of me to and all the rest of it. I imagine that the temperature's going to be cooler on a lot of these things there's going to be less of it kind of frantic need to make everything overtly political. We'd probably go back a little bit to the old version where it's all you know, bubbling under the surface. Yeah. Veiled comments in his acceptance speech. But of course, I can't resist looking at the list of possible best picture nominees and winners and thinking about how they line up along these lines, right? So I mean, you've got a star is born is sort of the kind of purple choice in a way. I mean, it's probably the progressives idea of purple choice because on the one hand it's like Ulta country and on the other hand, it's lady Gaga drag VAR. It's it's the movie this year. I would say. So let's the favorite too. But forgive me. I mean, it's got in other words, it has the it has kind of place to both sides. You know, there's an argument to be made that Bradley Cooper is at least like an Austin Texas type of guy if not a blue dot guy. There's a red state thing going on there somewhere. Roma is is really, you know, if people really a lot of people watch it, I think that they'll find it's an incredibly kind of political statement at the end of the day insisting on the humanity of somebody who is just generally speaking, very marginalized green book, you know, there's we've talked about it. There's kind of like concerned that it's got some driving mistake type reactionary politics while on the face of it being a pro let's all get along. You know, better movie driving miss as he's about to right? Yeah. See that movie in a while. And I shouldn't say I mean, right. That's the driving miss daisy conundrum is like for you know. And then you've got, you know, speaking of somebody who likes to criticize driving miss daisy. You've got Spike Lee in there with black clansmen and movie that is outwardly saying something that a lot of people are realizing right now, which is that we need to take right wing, white nationalist terrorism. A lot more seriously from law enforcement. I mean, that's just that's what the movie is. And you know, you read it articles. Now where people are like, oh, maybe the FBI should be like looking at this stuff. And it's like go watch spikes movie. So and you go on I mean, Black Panther, obviously has kind of populist sort of progressive, you know, celebration aspect to it. I man has been the subject of a lot of weird political battles with the New Yorker slamming it as reactionary a lot of people on the right? You know, complaining that they don't see the flag get driven into the Arca wait in in other words, I don't think I certainly don't think we're like out of the woods here in terms of the Oscars being massively politicized and everybody if nothing else it's so tempting for people attached to each film to use that as a lever. Right. When when you're going down, the the wire, and you've got a competitor. You know, that's so much the subject of the whisper campaigns is like, well, you know, it's got some issues or you know, I wanna vote for Rome because I want to prove that I think Mexicans are people which is what the president does not want to believe. And then you have to kind of worry about that Bradley effect that people are talking about last night with some of the races in and Florida and Georgia where people say, oh, I'll vote for the kind of like politically correct thing and then behind closed doors. So like, actually I'm going to vote for you know, the thing I really like, but I didn't want anyone to know that I'm latently racist. Or whatever you said, Bradley, in fact, I thought you. In fact, I thought you meant Bradley Cooper. That's not what you mean. No. It's the thing in cal- from Cal California election a long time ago. Right. The Bradley effect. Yeah. It's based on a candidate. I think his name was Tom, Bradley, and he was running leading polls similar to what we've saw with Andrew gillum last night. People. Get a call from the pollsters, and they're like, yeah. Sure. I think he's great. And then in the privacy of the poem booth, they may be more racist than they wanna let on and I think we're all familiar with that phenomenon in with the academy from time to time, especially with a lot of sort of virtuous, signaling a sensible progressives fright. So there is a lot to discuss. And I think the last thing to think about with politics and the Oscars this year is like Ken Hollywood compete on an entertainment value level with Donald Trump, this crazy sort of vampire, squid Pt Barnum world wrestling reality, TV, you know. Carnival Barker wants nothing more than all the attention that you are giving to anything else. Yeah. I mean, that's what. He lives for spends all of his day thinking about and you know, using the biggest megaphone in the world to get. So that's always sort of there to like do the Oscars even matter when Trump is doing the craziest pro wrestling reality show from the White House all day every day on Twitter and Fox News. I mean, I think about that all the time how he's really successfully. And I hate to use the word successively turned the presidency into your like the number one show in the world. You know, like we talk about the monoculture and like they'll never be a hit like game of thrones again. But like this is it this is what's everyone's watching every single day is the Trump show. And I know it's Li it's impossible to unplug it's unconscionable to plug you kind of want to look away. But it's I think that's an excellent question. Mike is like how how does the kademi how does the movie industry whole command the attention when someone else's sucking of so much air in the room? And I think the initial answer to that was by being hashtag resistance talk. Trump through the. Word shows. And so maybe they'll continue that maybe not, you know, I, I don't know. I think I mean, obviously politicians are trying to figure this out too. So I don't know. I mean Hollywood has to sort of feel its way through all of this. But I do think it's interesting, and I don't wanna be imbalanced. In case, we have some conservative listeners. I think the issue is just that when we're talking about Hollywood we're talking about a world that is eighty five percent. I think on the progressive side of the ledger, if they are not feel like they need to go along with the the general mindset, which is behind the Bradley effect. Yeah. Let's they'd be lumped in with James woods and have to make movies with Kirk Cameron. Where do you think that vice could fit into all that since that's like still a great unknown in this race for a lot of us? And is like the most nakedly political Oscar contender in theory. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it could very well because they could do really well if it's if it's kind of like, the pod save America of you know, of this Oscar season, and it becomes a rallying point. I don't know if people actually care about Dick Cheney now or not is the one sort of weird question. I have a matter of tone. We don't really know what the tone of that movie is my guess is that it's not something that's going to try to humanize him too much that it's going to be like a dark story about how this guy did all these dark things. And in that case, like if we are writing a little high right now, we on the left or whatever, maybe we're okay with that, you know, maybe we're okay with a little Cheney because like we feel a little bit triumphant right now. I think that if Tuesday had gone another direction, I don't think there would be any app. Tight for a movie like that. Interesting, and it makes me curious to just in terms of you think about last year and about you know, it was the second Oscars in the Trump era. But it really feels like, you know, it was the first full year of all that and the shape of water ended up winning which was kind of. I mean, not apolitical. Exactly. But sort of a cozy romantic nice choice, and maybe it was because we were people were feeling beaten down and scared, and you just wanted to go for something romantic and that made them feel good. And now if we again have a little momentum behind we say, Yep. Black Panther wins or men wins. Or, you know, something else that feels more like you said, you know, like Roma's political in the incident so orient stars born, which is yeah. Cozy political sway to. I don't know. I feel like shape of water also had this narrative around it of like, this is this is a story about inclusive at like, the fish, the fish monster is the metaphor for all the people who are marginalized by the you know, because there's all y'all know Toro sent that interview saying weird stuff about the KGB, and like the fish honor the film and Ghirma being Mexican Hatton rightly critical later to someone from like from another side who can be other is by people. I mean, it definitely he he leaned into that metaphor. But I think Richard you're right. Like, it was fairly a political, you know, compared to even moonlight get alum whereas opposed. Yeah. But actually, I mean a star is born is like really political if you think about it, you know, that and I wonder if that's an issue for a star is born at the end of the day. Like, we all went nuts for it critically in kind of like, wow. This is a guilty pleasure that I actually love and it has been a hit. But I don't I mean it kept losing venom. Right. I mean, I don't know if that matters are not like, I don't know how much money it has to make a monster hit. If it's narrative was going to be wow. This is a critically acclaimed massive blockbuster hit did it actually achieve the second part of that to the level that that's the kind of like best picture winning momentum. Or does that leave an opening for somebody else to come in? I just want to clarify door listeners at the end of stars weren't after the credits. There's a scene where Jackson main battles. Venom. Oh, and then Freddie, Mercury comes with this big teeth. I mean stars born has made one hundred sixty six million at this point. It's just about to pass hotel Transylvania three the box office. And then after that crazy ridge Asian. So it's I mean, it's it's still pretty huge. It does seem like there's going to be like a movie that will bring us together, which I don't know. Like if that was the national mood is, but I do think that's kind of a unifying force. Maybe even more southern Black Panther, even the Black Panthers are much bigger hit it felt biggish. But it also felt once again it feels early. Yeah. Lately peaking too early. Yeah. In early peak. Not as leggie as maybe we would hope, you know. And and what's interesting is like, we don't know what we know intil these things hit the mainstream. And so like, I think were today reassessing are bohemian rhapsody like feelings because of the way in which the mainstream has reacted to it. And so like once again, these these other things that have yet to open wide. We don't know what we don't know yet vice comes out and makes eight. Eighty five billion dollars. We say Dick Cheney revival. So I mean, I just feel like on a on a basic level. Like, it's hard for me to imagine something like Meryl Streep at the Golden Globes yelling about Trump, and I guess January twenty seventeen like right before he Naga ration-. He feuded with her on Twitter. Like, that's how he started his what can I say one more thing about that? I think a lot of people are wising up to what feeds Trump and helps him in and going up against him in that way. And kind of spouting your your outrage in a way that Nabil's gives him the opportunity to hit back. I think a lot of people have decided they don't wanna play that game anymore. Probably a lot of celebrities. Guess there was a time to say, let's make it very clear that we're against this. And then it feels like there's now kind of time to say if this two year old wants to keep having a tantrum the rest of us can go on. Except go knock on doors and get progressive candidates in things. And so I feel like yeah. The maybe the pointed nece won't be there in such a way. But like, the kademi will just go, and, you know, either nominate or award, you know, movies that feel like that same momentum. Plus, you don't wanna like fall into unintentionally into the Oprah trap. And like be accused of running for president just because you give a rousing speech at an award ceremony. Oh, God by the time. It works. He's an apple have like ten declared democratic candidates running. It'll be too crowded to make your way in there. Also, don't be surprised if people in Hollywood are just say, oh, great. Everything's fixed now and get super complacent and green book win on the not I telling you. I don't be shocked. Yeah. Oh, man. We got a long way to go still. So let's let's talk about human rhapsody. Join and since you brought it up we talked last week about best actor, and I think both of us we mentally mentioned Rami Malik. But I think we're both a little bit iffy on his chances at breaking into best actor, even though his performance has been so praises part of this movie that has someone a mixed critical reception. And there's been kind of the the hoary mean going around being like, oh, it's a critic proof movie is proof that critics don't get it which I take objection to. But I mean, we do have to consider gaming wraps way more than we did two weeks ago. Right. I was absolutely. I mean, like, I think, you know, something that we should have paid more attention to you. Maybe is the idea that like even people who were really doubt on the movie as he say Katie were really high in Romney. And when he won the EMMY for mister robot. That was also a time when that show was not as high as it had been when it first premiered just that like Rummy molly's win and Romney molly's career in general. I think is just been like a tremendous amount of goodwill for him as a performer, despite maybe the whatever's happening around him because he is just like a very magnetic performer, and you know, and then when you have a large swath of audience because like, you know, for my man on the street perspective, not only do I know a lot of people who saw opening weekend. But I expected them to go see it and then come back and be like, oh, I wish I hadn't. They are like was pretty good. I liked it all the behind the scenes evacuations that we discussed a couple of weeks ago on this podcast. They have no idea about it. There. Like, you know, when I pointed out, I was like, well, didn't you think it was a little bit much like the other Queen members? Were granted. Like, oh, yeah. I see it now that you pointed out, but it didn't really land where he when I watched it. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, glad people enjoy the Queen the enemy, and like it is it was a really canny movie as I suspect like the Elton John movie. That's coming out. I think next year will be is like this is such built in advertisement. When you are when you are a studio, and you're looking for intellectual property when you're looking for, you know, like a franchise or a book adaptation, or whatever people are familiar with like when you can release a trailer. That's just like walled while Queen hits. And people are like, well, I wanna go watch the Queen hits on the big screen. Like, that's what people are there for, you know, this is like kind of the ultimate musical as as disguised as a bio-pic. And it's funny with as I was watching the success of it after our conversation. I'm thinking myself, why did we bet against the guys from Queen who turned they're kind of like perfectly good rock music into a giant international, you know, like popular money printing thing I've got to give credit to Brian Hiatt. Who's really? Mart writer at Rolling Stone. Who had this could tweet the other day. He said, I dare someone to write a the success of Greta van fleet. Are you guys familiar with Greta van fleet the new rock band that got a zero point zero? I think review on pitchfork huge. Now, the success of Greta van fleet and bohemian rhapsody suggested powerful unmet hunger for rock music out there. Ready for someone? Right. I think these, but people already there they they want some rock. They wanna rocks. This is all part of my theory that we're going into the millennial seventies. In the millennial. Seventies gas prices are going to go. That's one of the stars. Born is very very, you know, that's true. Yes. The thing I'm curious about with human rhapsody in Greenway is here, we have a fifty million dollar opening for a director who is mired in, you know, potential scandal. There's rumor of an Esquire article looming. There have been other articles and reports alleged behavior scandal I've heard things about the Esquire article that like it's if they're able to publish the stuff it's like career ending. But right now that's not out yet. And so, you know, we just gonna go full steam ahead with Bryan singer. And he's he's got red sewing it. I guess now with with the same studio. It's just an interesting sort of thing to watch. Because like he got fired off the movie, we're like, okay? This is the beginning of the end. And then we come and then it got bad reviews. We're like, okay. But then it's a huge hit. So the movie in the middle of me to like it was sometime last fall. I was like, oh, he just he he should have played to set all the time. Like, he was not fired for any like personal behavior issues, which was a weird fascinating wrinkle, but he did kind of feel like all right fine. He got me to he's done for right? And I can't think of another recent example of someone like Romney Malik. Now feels his decent shut up a soccer nomination. And we'll be doing a full like months and months of Oscar campaign for a movie directed by director who we like, I think he's admitted that they feuded on sad. Like, well that was part of the major report, I feel like Rami Malek coming to like literal. Not literal blows Brian are like threw something not at Rummy Malik when they were fighting onset. That's in the HR like expose about it. That was what I think finally stopped. Bryan singer is like Rami Malik being like he goes are I go. Yeah. Didn't he like call the studio and was like get him outta here? But what's interesting to me is like I didn't. I guess I didn't fully realize that that Bryan singer because of cork of the DJ like it gets full director credit on this Dexter punch, or who finish the film doesn't. So if rap worrying conversation in like, some of the other. Stories not lead actor then. Yeah, I like, you know, is Brian you're going to walk home with an award this season. Like that that that's still feels a little far off talking about running Malik instead of talking about the movie itself is what we might wind up doing because then ride. Meanwhile, it gets brownie points, and I don't mean that kinda sending Li like brought in like four pushing Bryan singer off this project is ending effort the revenue it. Yeah. Sleeping in a in a buffalo. Carcass is getting his rector fired. Right. I don't know. So she went and you saw bohemian rhapsody. I did. Yes. Okay. And then the rest of us are still waiting are turn some plain somewhere. Maybe I just I'm so biased against music bio-pics that I just I just don't care. I think Romney Malik is better than I expected. It. I still think the film I like still largely agree with Hillary's assessment on the of it on the podcast couple of weeks ago. I see why it's popular. And I think you know, Rami Malik is good. And as he is good in everything that best actor category. Specifically that we talked about last week. Kitty, should definitely include him going forward. Yeah. I agree. Okay. So let's wrap up our conversation. Part of the episode before we get to cans interview. I just wanted to point to an article that Nicole Sperling wrote for us last week about Netflix, basically, finally deciding what it wants to do with Roma. It's going to be releasing kind of these three Oscar contenders Roma. And then the Coen brothers movie Balata BUSTER Scruggs was comes out this week as we record and then Burt box with us Andrew Bullock in all come out several weeks before they actually go onto net. Flicks. Where I'm going to be out for a full three weeks before it goes up flakes, which for any other platform is totally sensible Amazon has movies in theaters for months and months and months before they go in Amazon, but for Netflix, this is kind of. Reversal like, they said, they'd never do it. They came to blows with can over it. Do we think that it will do think it'll make a difference? How most people watch it. And then also how they'll consider in the Oscar race. I think that's kind of two separate questions. I think it will make a difference for film fans who are lucky enough to live in Los Angeles New yorker Mexico City where they'll be able to see it. This is really the only three things. So yeah, I think those the only three getting the early release. I've always thought this was good marketing for Netflix did not understand why they wouldn't do it to release it. So early in theater. I mean, if everything is marketing at some level and so- movies like run all these ads on TV in the weeks before they open and also having movies up on a marquee, even if you kind of say to yourself like, oh, I should see that. I'm interested in you, don't actually go like, then when you see on clicks, you're like, oh, I should watch this thing. I mean, I don't know to what extent that actually matters to Netflix business model. But I think that's one of the things that kind of is annoying directors. And then also directors would ideally like to have people watch it. I definitely think it'll help with the academy. I think the academy will like this. Yeah. It's making the concession that gets the deal done or whatever gets Bill passed. You know, I also think I mean, I don't know again, it's just three cities. But like one of them doesn't celebrate this holiday. But like it's opening for thanksgiving. You know? And so maybe that's the alternate to the artsy family that doesn't wanna. See green book or the or the family that has loved Karan's pass movies. And was like, well, we gotta go see that new thing. I don't know if that that moves the needle any at all. But. I feel better about the movies chances knowing that it's going to get something that looks a little bit like a regular. Yeah. Yeah. I those I wonder about how it feels if you're puckering grass or timbre Jenkins or Nicole center. One of the other filmmakers has had a film on that flexes fall that didn't get that. Or even the Coen brothers? Their busters crags is gonna come a week before. And so two three weeks before like the way that it's kind of like saying, okay? This is our real one than the rest of these are going to go on Netflix. But don't you think that would be annoying? Yeah. And I saw map Bellamy tweeting a T H com today, basically saying like now everyone's going to ask for this. That's gonna give a mess if you give corona release I genuinely do not understand why they have been so stubborn on this topic. It seems like a weird kind of Silicon Valley like 'cause I get done billionaire became a chicken, right? It's like, I do it. So I'm not going to do it. It just feels to me like a principal instead of a thought-through policy. That's actually based on like reality. But maybe I'm too dumb to to get why it's the totally right way to do this million. I'll see their money. So who knows it's like my thing about how I never favorite tweets. And all and then it became a thing. Like why? And I was like, I don't really know anymore. But I just keep favorite in tweets and being rude to people. It makes me feel so much better. Now that I know that. Oh, no. I never do principle. I never do. It's exactly that might because there have been not for not every movie, plenty of movies can just live on Netflix and do very well as we saw with some of the some of their original titles like the summer like to all the boys love before when you have a Koran movie like you get goodwill from the industry, people are Sylvan and see it. And even if it's just out in three cities that's going to build word of mouth, and then people will watch it on your service like it just makes complete sense audience or your prestige audience is people who really care about cinema, and like checkout and see what's playing at their local cooled theater. And you know, it's different from the audience for like, a teen romance or something like that. You know? I mean, so why wouldn't you just do? I don't know. I just don't get why they haven't played the game. I'm I'm happy that they're starting to. And if they win best picture with Roma you can guarantee they'll do it again. Like that. That's going to be interesting thing to watch one would. Yeah. And again, I know we've talked about this already. But Roma literally opens with like, what is it? Seven minutes. There's a seven minute credit sequence of somebody mopping a floor. You know, like, good luck intro button shows up on that. I will scream. I mean, it's just like you've got the. Yeah. You're sitting there with like, a laptop and a phone and multiple pets. And. Yeah. People in the other room dishes to do, you know, it's a nice movie to watch into theater. I'm glad they're doing it for non-spanish speakers movies with subtitles so much better to watch in the theater because you have to you have to look at it. You know, like there's nowhere else to look I get so stressed out about people's skipping certain movies in the theater, because I know they're not gonna like like, I was really pushing people see suspicion that the inner 'cause I know it's not going to land at home just because of that the lake when a movie like that or Roma takes his time and get slow, and you've got your phone in front of you when you're playing whereas his friends or whatever like, you know, it's not it's not the same. You can't get lost in it. And so unless you are really disciplined at home and like put their devices away, but I doubt it so. Yeah. There are certain movies that I just like pushed really hard remote will be one of them to sphere is another go to the theatre Anderson. That's not an easy proposition for a lot of people these days, but do it and what's going to happen? Like, there's an interesting detail, Nicole story, where they were having to go stations with kind of the big movie exhibitors in Mexico to try to get it, you know, show in the AMC and regal of Mexico, and they couldn't make a deal because they wouldn't have ninety day exclusivity window, and there's a similar thing with the major chains in the US with Rome. I was talking to a publicist trying to set regional screenings of Roman. They hard time with screens and FOX movies at major theater changed because even a screening like Nope Netflix off. So we want anything to do with by the way. That's a good point theatre chains are like they also need to like get it together and get together with the twenty first century. I think that's interesting that is the other side of the equation. It's like all the rules that they do. I get it. They they keep them in profitability, but they're constantly complaining that they're at risk in that all these streaming services are putting risk in anything like experimental. Little do something. Interesting in different. Wouldn't it be cool? If more movies could be seen in theaters in more towns around the ANC stubs, I guess is like the next version of that after movie pass crater finding ways to like make their business model not just about having something only for six months or something like that letting the windows shrink in that way. Yeah. There's also like something cool about a little bit of a delayed gratification in our do. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I see Romo playing there. What I should go. See it or else. I'll have to wait three weeks. That's what we'll live. We'll survive. Yeah. Who can imagine waiting three weeks for anything to just be liver directly into your house and then much so you're gonna go see Rome over thanksgiving, Richard with your with your family is that something you can imagine going and taking your parents. I I would but we're not going to be our usual spot. So I'm not sure, but that if I was looking at the line of movies out over thanksgiving. I mean, obviously, we'd go see nutcracker in the forums for the fourth time. One one French realm. Part of me that also would be like gangrene book, you know. But no remote would definitely be by top pick. I don't think I would go to the favourite with my family. I was thinking of the movies that failed around then I'm looking forward to seeing the favorite again not gonna be they can see that on their own. Exactly, everyone get this for themselves. The favourite is exactly the kind of movie that I would put on a screener over the holidays at dare to me like it. So I should take this. Or I met my like my dad half with a little less than halfway through phantom thread last year being turning to me be like, so what's the point of this? By the way, I had just had the opposite experience. I feel compelled to tell you that after sort of trash talking fan of thread all year last year. I watched it again with my wife and she loved. And I'm much preferred it sitting next to her watching her enjoy it that much then I had the first time. So a lot of Paul Thomas Anderson movies, a second viewing is you're like, okay. I guess, and I think once you know, where it's going. It's more interesting than when you're like, what hell is happening with movie that that makes sense. Speaking of why did you talk about last week? So I haven't listened to yet about this. Crazy Kenneth Branagh movie that just got dropped into the or season. Like at the last minute. Movie called all is true. That is getting a little qualifying released at the very end of the year. We're Kenneth Branagh. Plays old. Shakespeare and Judi dench's. His white is Anne Hathaway, not the actress is Kenneth Branagh in like crazy age makeup. Because I mean, there's there's a photo that I just was tweeting about, but like he's got like this, you know, this beard and hair line. And it's just like. So so I don't know if he just like won the Oscar, but was something we should keep an actor. Just happened a week too early. There was so much information. We deal yet. So the so many beautiful roughs in this phone that I'm looking adding that Mary Queen of Scots contemporary. I feel like Kathrada's like he's in his weird hair experimental phase between Poirot and Shakespeare, he's like just put whatever you want on my face. It's fine. Oh, it's by Ben Elton. That's so interesting belts. And did like he's got a he's got a BBC show on right now called upstart crow, which is about the life of Shakespeare. And then he's also very like famous a beloved in England for doing Blackadder. That's like a very famous thing that he did. And so like, oh, that's how Ben Elton Brana. Shakespeare, I'm in solve. Okay. Let's share cams interview with being Lou, the director of mining the gap. It's now many for many critics choice documentary awards. He's in town for that ceremony this week. I just recently caught up on minding the gap. Finally after months of hear people talk about it's on Hulu is incredibly easy to access Joey. And I believe you also just recently wash it on Hulu. I sure did we talked about dogs. So while ago, I don't think we got into minding the gap in too much detail this movie's really incredible. I was so stunned by it. I was like so glad I caught it Joanna. Did you feel the same way? Yes. I thought it was incredible. And like we don't need to necessarily further berry a film that we've already buried plenty on this podcast. But it made a another skateboarding film that we've talked about look like even more hollow. It's what that movie, I think wants to be, but it is authentic and brilliant about these three friends and the various directions that they went in. And the fact that like it's got that that boyhood cachet of like having footage from when they were very young verse. I don't know what made twenty eight and twenty now near you them eight. Yeah. To see them age on cameras, just it's very powerful. Very very good. Yeah. I know cameras a big fan of the movie too and really wanted to talk to being Liu. So I was really excited to be able to put them together for this interview. So let's listen to it. This is Cameron awesome. Collins film critic for Vanity Fair, and I'm here with being Lou director of the great great documentary. Minding the gap which is currently streaming on Hulu if you haven't seen it. This is a very personal documentary about male adolescence skate culture cycles of abuse. But I just wanted to sit and pick things brain a little bit to just get a sense from you of how you made such a personal revealing. But also, lively and alert and sensitive movie. So first of all, welcome. Hi, thanks for having me. So first of all, let's talk about making this movie. This is not as I understand it start off as you filming things to make a movie per se on your filming your friends is that right? I mean. Yes. And no, I mean in the sense that, you know, films skateboarders filmed the community of chosen family who are my friends. Yeah. Did that since I was fourteen or fifteen there's? Sleight of hand didn't really sure here. And so I was in my twenties. The other guys ACA had maybe five minutes of footage from him. You know, I knew him very briefly Kieran Zaka the team main protagonists of of the film here. You know, he's a teenager. He's like seventeen or eighteen I forget when we I really pick up from his where story starts really cares Matic is the only African American person in this white group of friends this white group of chosen family skateboarders Zach is he's like twenty two or twenty three when we first start picking up with the story. He is about to become a father. But he's charismatic sort of, you know, this floppy haired just person who's just the center of attention, and he's very watchable. And you know, it's about his journey being a father while not really being prepared for it. Right. And how long do you know, what Zach I met him when I was seventeen and he lived in like an expert of Rockford some few times at this cave park. I filmed him because he really good. But you know, we hung out maybe once or twice outside the skate park. Then I moved to. Chicago when I was nineteen. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you've been filming since you were fourteen or fifteen what is one filming I know nothing about skate culture. So what I I mean from seeing a lot of movies about this recently mid-nineties skate kitchen et cetera. And also just growing up. Louise, like slacker, my understanding is that there is often videographer in the group of skaters is a very basic question from New Jersey, I didn't have any escape really many skateboarders in my town. But the videographer that was you. I guess. Yeah. I mean, that's a common trope. There isn't always a video game for in scape crew. But the things that make a skate community really thrive. You know in the absence of any organization or any support is someone who's filming and making content within the group. And so, you know, in hindsight, I knew like, you know, a lot of smaller towns and cities across America. There are skate crews, and you know, there's a scheduling escaped shop also as another way for escape culture to survive in a town or city, but without escape. Filmer? It's like the culture sorta dies like after I left Rockford. There was you know, they're sort of this absence of people who are filming skateboarding and making skate videos and a very serious way. And so I sort of belonged to a camp. I think that was you know, looked at scape. It is as a like a form of expression. The reason why I gotta cameras actually I met these two kids from the Chikako suburbs Madden. Gene, they spent years making videos, and like they had favorite skate videos, and they'd show me, you know, what they liked in watch. And they used really sensitive music, and they would take time to get non skateboarding shots for the videos. And so I was like, oh, that's interesting. I want to try doing what they're doing. So just started emulating skate videos that I liked things that are boundary pushing. I mean, my impression from your film in particular is that's gave it does have their own visual language that there's a way in which in your movie, you kind of. Us images of you guys skating. To sort of they add this momentum to the movie, and they also have this sort of emotional. I don't even know how to describe it. There's this sense of of freedom in the skating, and especially in the skating that is sort of a counterpoint to some of the more painful things that you guys are talking about. But I was really taken with the images of skating themselves. They seemed very particular to that world. Yeah. I mean, the images are created in this world. It's very different from the way people film skateboarding. Traditionally, it's you it's a fish. I everything's fish. But what I was paying attention to. And this is something people started doing in the two thousands. I think more and more especially a couple of film mares of an Hernandez, and John Holland who did a lot of the Transworld videos in that era. They would do things without a fish. They did long lens. Combining zooms with rolling on a skateboard know doing really really interesting things that were like really really designed and surgical and said that's something that I latched onto as a teenager. And I think that helped me fall in love with, you know, making videos and editing because you know, the realization that this isn't just a random pointing slathering music over things you can be really surgical about it in moving forward and making like filming more skateboarding. I was just kept trying to find ways to push it. Even further for mine the gap. I was doing something that no one else is doing. So as a little weird, I think because I was running as running with the rich. Big behind people in front of people weaving in and out of traffic with them dangerous at all weaving in and out of traffic. I'm not a parent. But as soon as I hear that I think, okay? Well, yes. No. I mean, you're not attached to the to the skateboard in the same way that he kind of are in a bicycle I feel like I'm I feel more. I wear a helmet when I bicycle by don't wear helmet when I skateboard once you skateboard for over half your life. You know, which is true to me, and the characters minding the gap it it's almost like you're more comfortable on a skateboard than you are walking. Yeah. There's actually that in your movie as well. I I would love to talk to you about just when it was that you decided to at some point start interviewing skaters about their home live their emotional lives. I mean, I was also emulating this as a teenager, those translate videos, you know, like one of them, I really latched onto it was called. I love they had all the professional skateboarders who had parts in that video talk. When they first fell in love with skateboarding and widespread, I love I know is very, you know, there wasn't tongue in cheek. They're being earnest about it. So I did that as a teenager. You know, like get people to talk about skateboarding a serious way. And then I sort of started making other things outside escape videos and interviewing people the first project where I really got deep into subject of home, life and trauma and identity and growing up was a project about two Vietnamese immigrants who both had happened to move to tocado ninety three I made that while I was an undergrad I was studying English, but any chance that could get to not write a paper. And like to video projects instead swindle night professors into into accepting that so did this project on these TV as immigrants, and you know, they both experienced a lot of trauma growing up in it really hit close to home for me. They talked about you know, what it meant to try to find their identities. Now, you know, having come from such a fractured past those really powerful and really emotional for my next project. I sort of went back to the skateboarding community away. I was noticing how sometimes there is more lenses than skateboards at spots. You know, like, it was the proliferation of digital camera devices and YouTube and Facebook, and so I interviewed videography shares and photographers media makers skateboarding to try to deconstruct it in a lot of people who filmed and took photographs skateboarding talked about, you know, how it helped them get through really dark adolescence is sometimes, and so, you know, those sort of another pin in the in the board for me. In terms of thinking about what I wanted to do next that sorta where minding the gap was birth from using these two projects, you know, sort of trying to go even deeper in this community about issues of growing up and trauma. And so, yeah, I mean, the project started with me going around the country and having these really Frank conversations with people some people who had like had loose connections with other people who had never met and then a year and a half. Then that's when I came back to Rockford notices kid care and was like, hey, can we can we go interview? And then we talked about his father for an hour and a half because curious one of the main characters in the movie what made him stand out for you mostly because he was Charismatics probably not the right word. He's full of energy. He's a ball of energy. That is just contagious. Something about that in his really good at skateboarding, really, really good. And he was one black skateboarder and this Kepa white friends. And that's something we talked about the first time we sat down as well and became a thread. That is very. Much part of his historian the film, right? And at what point did you evacuate? You'd known personally for a longer time decide to because I do definitely want to talk about socks threat here because I think there are things that he reveals in this documentary that he allows you to reveal documentary that are very sensitive. But at what point did you sort of get him on the making of this project rather than sort of just filming skating after I moved to Chicago. It's like we sort of lost touch. I sort of had a situation where I had to move into a friend's place for a few months when I was in Chicago, and he happened to be sleeping the couch for few months. So it was a weird apartment situation studying undergrad, and I was like just come home, and like write papers, and I'd like walk past him chugging beers or whatever in the living room. He was just wouldn't really talk. And then when I came back to Rockford and started falling here, we had had several shoots before here was just happened to go to this sort of backyard pool party in Zach happened. There. And I was like, oh, hey, how's it? You know, it's like longtime man, and I noticed his girlfriend was there, and she was pregnant belly was really big. And as like, oh interesting. And so that's when I pulled him aside and did a, you know, just on the fly interview with him. And I'm like, okay in from that we had decided to you know, he'd give me permission to go and follow them into the hospital and the day of their birth. Which is what happened which is the same that didn't make it in the film. That's a really powerful scene. So that's kind of how we we connected. We started off filming right? So for the people who haven't seen the movie something that you review about both Zack. And cure and yourself urges these sort of histories of childhood abuse of physical emotional violence. And in the case of Zach of a sense of how that might pass from whoever abused him to him and from him to then his girlfriend, etc. But a question that sort of is on the minds if they could anyone who's seen the movie is how do you get people comfortable in this way to reveal such trauma to the camera? Trauma sort of the wrong word because it's not as if we're the movies indulging this like leering sense of violence and people's lives, but we were talking about, you know, parents fathers in particular abusing their sons, and and the honesty of your movie, I think is something and people's comfort being honest, in that way, something that I think is really striking. Even even as someone who seen subjects like this in front of a documentaries before you're uniquely sensitive to these things, and I'm curious about the interactions. You had with people the conversations you had to have people to get them to be comfortable revealing themselves in this way. It's a two way street, right? Like, I mean, you know, they're going to give what they wanna give. I think you have to just start or know that they have control. Over whatever, you know, they wanna talk about. But that's part of the reason why I've started falling Kierra in particular is because for him that to a straight was wide open. First time we sat down and talked. And this is a person I've never had an Iraq interaction with except for filming him getting into a fight. When he was a little kid before I knew who he was me asking him about his relationship with his father. He's just started. You know, I mean, it took a little bit of prodding took a lot of patients and sitting through awkward silences. But it's this sorta subtle chess game of on said. Asks and unsaid permission giving. I don't know. I mean, I think you just pay a lot of attention to cues that I think they're they're just trying to give in terms of it's painful to keep going. But maybe they wanna keep talking about it. I don't know. It's something that's really hard to her ticky late. But I think it probably started when I was a child, and you know, I had to be really hyper aware because I felt like I was walking eggshells in my household where I grew up in. So you look for any sort of minute cute to let you know. You know, like what's this? What's this person thinking am I going to get hurt? You know, that's something that I took with me as I became an adolescent, you know, and I started having gaining friendships and interacting with more people having those curious conversations adolescents have I really wanted to feel less alone. I really wanted to you know, like just have the proof that other people do have owner abilities, and you know, they feel emotions going through something. But in order to do that I had to learn how to get people to open up like now, I feel like I can't turn that off. It's just like that space. Why love existing last night? I went out with my friends here. New york. I'm seeing a long time. And you know, we talked about a lot of really personal things. And then as we were saying goodbyes asking, my one friend. I was like do you think I like just dig to d do you think I'm like digging too deep all the time is that annoying? And he's like we'll know 'cause it's coming from a place of curiosity. He said sometimes people like really want to go to personal places, but it's really about them. It's really about like either proving a point that they might want to prove to themselves or you know, it's not about like exploring together. And I think for me, it's it's really about exploring, and you know, trying to answer these really deep questions that really is a sort of nag at you. And at night, they keep you up at night. I think we can do that better together. So all that to say, you know, I think that's sort of the the philosophy behind. You know, how is approaching minding the gap as well and Kia was really open, and you know, from that first conversation. It was like the whole film. His whole story would came out during that whole conversation. The rest of the time asserted just watching him slowly grow up. It was very clear that he felt both love and anger and bitterness and guilt all wrapped up in one package about his father, and he'd never processed before. And you know, and it seemed like he's willing to process it, and then, you know, in us going skating afterwards and me that judging him for it. You know, it sort of gave him more courage for the next conversation for Zach was like, I didn't I I was actually more of a. Almost frustrating at times because you know, Kierra is giving so much strong on our ability, but Zach has this sort of defense mechanism of humor, in charisma that he sometimes hides behind you know, what I'm saying that in hindsight, even because after a while, I just started gave up, and I was like, you know, Zach just doesn't operate in this emotional level. You know, he's maybe some more logical left brain person. But one day as things were sort of getting dark and his in his storyline. He just decided for like two hours. Then interview just to really fair has soul in a way. That was almost scary because it's overwhelming, and it, you know, it was so relatable. I think in many ways is it that you had reached a point in your relationship that he felt comfortable telling you or I think again this goes back to the two way street, and I say this because you know, at the beginning, he's very self-aware. He's you know, in a weird way. Aw aware about himself. But also the process of order doing like the camera being there and liked representation, and everything, you know, many times he said like capturing a lot of like, you know, messed up stuff about my life being. But you know, it's it is what it is. And I accept it for what it is. I think within that is is valid Asian of his story and know at least feeling like he's getting someone cares about him enough to just even be there. Even for the bad stuff in the one interview where he really sort of bears all which is the climax of his storyline on on the emotional side. The beginning of that interview. He said hipping do you want the real shit or the fake shit as like, well, I've always wanted to. Yeah. And I didn't know that. That was like I thought that was just like, you know, like a funny quip, but he he gave me the real shit. And it's like, oh, okay. Yeah. He's he's just like everybody else, you know, and has the same worries and concerns, and it's just been buried and repress under many many more layers than than for care, right? Yeah. I mean in speaking of it being a two way street, the choice that you make in the documentary that I think is extremely powerful is that you gradually sort of reveal yourself as well partially through an interview with your own mother about your own abusive experiences with your stepfather, but also just an interview with the skate shop owner who seems to have an instinct about you that he expresses to you on camera about your sort of home life things that he's sentenced in the making of this movie. Where did your storyline? Come in. Into it. Br you intending to reveal this much of yourself because I think even without your story line. I always sense that there's a personal stake here for you. But I'm curious about when you decided to get in front of the camera yet didn't intend to do it at the beginning. I think the first time that thought sort of came up was in feedback screenings people, you know, asked like how I came to find the story. You know, explain to them. Well, I'm also from this community. You know, I also skateboard I went through similar things. And so making this film to try to tell us story and make a narrative out of something that doesn't make sense. And they're like, well, are you have you thought about being in the film, and I just kept saying, no, you know, the flooding. But then you know, there's a this is a spoiler. But one point in the film, we find out that one of the characters has been abusive. And so you know, I had to sort of find a way to move forward. And there are many things that came out of that. I took a forty hour domestic violence course, had to sort of go through this process of accepting. You know, this film might not ever come out. But one of the things that came out of that was okay. I think there's a reason to explore my story now, and the storytelling mechanic sort of way where you know, like in came out of the question of like what gives the filmmaker the right to keep going here. You know, it's very private matter. I think you know. Thinking about the filmmakers a character. If we understand the filmmaker if we understand the filmmakers reasons backstory and sympathize for the filmmaker then I think, you know, I don't think it justifies it because it's so subjective. But in a helps helps it would help the audience understand, you know, right at least a reasoning for it, right and not to spoil things, but a substantial part of this movie, I think one of the really like one of the hearts, one of the many hearts of this movie is an interview that you have with your mom, can you tell us about. Getting your mom into this. I could tell that it was a difficult conversation. How did you convince her to want to appear on camera? This is someone that I would imagine never thought her son would be in her living room with with camera equipment and lighting asking her questions about her relationship to your stepfather. Maybe I'm being dismissive. But I don't I I didn't see it as that big of a hurdle. You know, in many ways, it was like, I mean, I think maybe because people don't understand like how little I saw my mom and hell threadbare our relationship was going up. So actually saw it as a chance to reconnect with her. I mean, it was a long interview. And I went into it thinking about, you know, like giving the the filmmakers character backstory in like understanding, the family dynamics in, you know, trying to get at like who a feminist stepfather was through his family. So I thought of it more like expository and in the cuts that I did before I started working with my co editor Josh Altman if. Was a very expository seen the ways that I would cut it once he came on. And you know, I gave him that scene is like almost as I pass as what you see in the movie. He he saw the confrontation in it that I didn't. I mean, most of it was very much like, okay. And then when did you move to the city in China, and like, why do we move to, you know, MRs their year that we went to college and you worked in this Chinese restaurant? Yeah. I just had a blind spot to you know, like me wanting answers me like, you know, expressing to her that, you know, I have feelings of bitterness and anger, and I don't know to do with it. You know, those the difficult part was in, you know, seeing something that I couldn't write, you know, something that you pull off in this documentary. Really amazingly to me is that you give a sense of Rockford and of its economic hardships in of those realities, and I think it's implied that that stuff is sort of an important sociological background. But something that you avoid doing is making it feel like poverty porn or making it feel sort of condescendingly dark, and I'm curious about how you found that balance. How I walk away with such a. A keen sense of what Rockford is like for you guys in a material sense. But I don't walk away thinking well, gosh like Rockford sa- seems like this awful place. I I just have I feel like I have a very naturalistic sense of the city, but not one that's despairing. And I think that's a really interesting balance that you strike, and I'm curious about you. How you did that part of it was just like seeing other. I didn't start watching a lot of films. Not just documentaries but films in general until my twenty s I didn't grow up being Sinophile or anything, but probably better off. Like, you know in watching documentaries. Yeah. It was a trope. It was like driving through a bad part of town. And like, you know, like having voiceover talking about how there's crime, and poverty, and everything, and it just it doesn't feel human. It doesn't have the perspective that you know, feels real I guess feels true to the experience that people who actually live there. And I think Rockford where the where the story takes place as a particular sensitive spot to I guess press, shedding a negative light on on the city in twenty thirteen Forbes magazine named it the most miserable city to live in an America. The response was you know, like the mayor office put on this PR campaign that was like rockford's great. And I think like even Michael Moore like showed up and like burn Forbes magazine's. Copies and we'll leave that. But yeah, it was you know, people are outraged. I think growing up in throughout that era that probably filtered into me, how do you honor the fact that, you know, there are these realities these socio economic realities in the city without blaming those realities on, you know, for the various things that people have to experience when they grow up. How do you both give a listen? But also, you know, don't do that in a vacuum on to your characters. It was it was just the process of trying to find my first shoot when I went out to try to like characterize Rockford. It was kinda generic I was like going for portrait landscape as well. Let me show, you know, like the sunset the river the skyline in the background. And it just it wasn't really saying anything. And then the next thing. I did as I came to rock Frejus kept not noticing these billboards paid for by the council, it was, you know, billboards, I'm talking about the Val. Fatherhood. You know painting statistics about you know, fatherhood in community. So I was like why am I just try filming that when I was doing it? I was like in my head. I was like this is so cheesy like the people are going to laugh this off the screen, but I had it, and we tried it. And then the next thing I thought of was well what if we? Like spots where the characters had been. But now they're no longer there. And it's like a different time. And it's like a way to pass time. But also like show in this like metaphorical wave showing you know, the way that people in active space. So I did that. But then I was like, wait a minute. These are all skate spots. Right. Like what if we get details on these skate spots? And it's like, very, you know, we don't tell people what it is. And maybe slowly they'll realize that. And then the final thing once domestic violence became a major thread as like what if I just found these big old houses, you know, speaks to you know, what a lot of, you know, rustbelt cities have which is big houses that are sort of falling apart. But also speaks towards you know, what happens behind closed doors, and so a mix of those things with just like four or five radio statistics was all we needed. I think also just a huge impression that I have Rockford comes from just the skating footage and just seeing you guys in the streets, and the sense of freedom that you have there that that. It would defy any sort of easy since of the despair or poverty there that there's it does seem like you guys pound family for yourselves, and I think that that is a good counterpoint to, you know, just images of poverty. Right. I mean, people still have. I mean, I think this about any film that deals with the social issue. You know, like, I crave an emotional lily wholeness like a pallet of emotions that honors the whole color wheel. Sometimes you watch a film about, you know, in a shoe, and it's like, it's like, this one note of despair stomach-turning, you know, motion in I think the reality of growing up in Rockford even dealing with, you know, a violent home life. You still have all the other emotions, you know, like your disposal. You still experience hope and joy and friendship and love and heartbreak, and yeah, I think that's important to honor. And I think it's you know, what's going to help us. We connect across all these lines in the modern day for sure. Well, thank you for coming in to speak. And this is a great movie mining the guy currently stream Abol on glue. Please watch it. It's one of the most acclaimed movies of the year. I'm certainly one of the best. Thank you. Thanks so much. So that does it for this week's podcast. Thank you for listening. Finest Napa podcast, leave us a rating and review tell your friends tell your family what you're getting associate or thanksgiving. 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Is It Too Late for Black Panther to Win Best Picture?

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59:01 min | 1 year ago

Is It Too Late for Black Panther to Win Best Picture?

"Today's show is being brought to you by Warner Brothers stars born. Starring Bradley Cooper, lady Gaga and Sam Elliott in their Caveney award nominated performances. A star is born for your consideration all categories including best picture and best adapted screenplay. Hello and welcome to little Goldman and award season podcast Vanity Fair. It's such an honor to present this next award nominees. The bills. And I can't deny the fact that you like me. The. Mistake. Like, you guys won best picture. I'm senior writer. Join a Robinson. And I am joined today by chief critic, Richard Lawson. Hello, and that's it for usual team, actually. But if you're worried that it's going to be the Richard Joanna show, which you can get plenty of on. Our other podcasts though, watching we are joined may very special guest an amazing award season. Prognosticator the lovely Chris Rosen. Hello, chris. Hi joanna. Hello, richard. Hi, thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. I can't wait to talk. All right. So Chris you are the editor in chief of TV guide. I got your title wrong last time. That's right. That's right. She's a TV guide dot com. Great website. Check it out an old friend of Mike's who's not here. He's in California. You know? We'll we'll we'll have you play his role to if you're if you're. That sounds great. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Before we started recording you little Goldman fans. Chris's regaling us with some Mike stories, which might doesn't get here because he's not here. But instead of just talking about the lovely Mike HOGAN this whole podcast. We are going to ask Chris to follow up on the promise we made last week, which is to get his take on some of these interesting theories he has what award season, which I'm calling the Chris Rosen unified theory of wild guessing. So Chris Rosen, what is your wildest guess? I just love that in the unified theory, while guessing because I really feel like it's really it really just kinda ties the whole thing together. My wild guest is that Black Panther is gonna win best picture. I really kind of have now convinced myself with tinfoil hat, and a bunch of twine that this is a real thing that could happen because I just feel like the sag award win was really significant. And I think Roma is going to win a lot of other awards and my biggest theories here around Oscars in general are that. Everyone gets a trophy a lot of momentum has built around that. I think over the last few years it used to be like, you know, a movie like Titanic is just gonna win everything. They never split best picture and best director that would never happen. Now, that's kind of like almost what we're expecting often. Right. Where it's like. Okay. Mijas L wins best director, but moonlight wins best picture. And you know, you'll last you're obviously, they stayed connected. But I do think you've seen that more and more. You saw that with spotlight. I think in that year, obviously Argo year, so it is more and more frequent and you kind of like they like to spread the wealthy academy. So I feel like if you look at the top nominees there are awards where every big movie that's nominated for best picture can win a pretty significant award. Right. So you've got the favorite ten nominations. It's probably gonna win best screenplay. Right. We all agree with that rigid. Scream played there. Really? I don't think the Livia Coleman train has left the station. So it'll just win best screenplay. But that's a great award and everybody, it'd be really happy. Vice I think, you know, you could argue best makeup is not a significant. But I think you'll let honored there and the whole movie is. And I mean, there's an outside shot still a Christian belco in best actor, I don't really believe that there's an outside shot that Amy Adams could win best supporting actress on a believe that. But they'll give it make up. And again, that's great. We could talk about stars born that's going to kind kinda get shut out again. But shallow and best song. You could go through the whole list. We can talk about human rhapsody. I'm sure we will later, but even that is gonna win thing. Roma obviously is heavy favourite. And it's going to win a ton of awards. Right. Best, you know, foreign language film. Best cinematography, you know, baby. Best director, I think that's pretty much locked up. But Spike Lee might have a an outside shot. But you know, it's going to get like three or four awards Black Panther. It could win best costume design. That's like the one that I think people have been focusing on it could win best original score. But foolishly I'm still holding out hope that nNcholas Rotella win for it feels streak at talk. I think that is the best score of the year. But normally you can't always trust best is going to win. So. Yeah, black man could go home empty-handed. And that is thing. I don't think anybody in the economy wants. 'cause they really liked the movie got a best picture nomination. The cast is honored at the sag awards. So, you know, I think if you think about the branches in play the actor's branch, obviously is the biggest one everybody votes. Best picture of the actors is the biggest one it has a lot of broad actress award, even though it didn't get an actor nomination for Michael Jordan. I could understand why he didn't get not your nomination. Michael Jordan based on that list of supporting actors. Maybe he's like the six guy out of five. Producers are big heavy branch in the kademi. There are a lot of producer probably that love the marvel model and also like love making money and bike neither made a ton of money. The executives are also probably big Disney, vans because their executives and executives love hanging out with other executives, and who would not want to hang out with Disney executives, you could go through the bigger brand. And I'm now like, okay like all these branches could vote for Black Panther. The other thing is now that I'm complete filibustering. So feel free to interrupt even is the preferential ballot. I feel like is like another big win for black. Panther. So that's like the other component of this. I'm sure you guys have talked about the preferential ballot before I'm sure listeners have little goal men. Don't need to know about the preferential ballot like in detail. But obviously, they ranked the best picture nominees one to five or eight or whatever it is the nominee with the lowest amount of votes gets knocked out. And then it lows amount of first place votes gets knocked out and those ballots, go to the second place votes. Well, in my mind, I feel like Black Panther is the consensus moving here this year because literally who does not like Black Panther. I have a hard time finding anybody who did not like it write reviews loved it audiences loved it. Even obviously the kademi some meme Stagg award voters loved it people love that movie is a very well liked movie. And I don't know if there's another well liked movie enough on the list, right? Like if you loved Roma you probably still like Black Panther a lot. And if you loved green book, somehow, you probably also still thought like mantha was pretty cool. So I think there's a world where black mantha gets the most number two votes. And then kind of like it's enough number one votes to stay competitive. And when that last film. Whether it's like, black klansman or the favorite over gets knocked out. You know, the ballots that go to like panther will push it over the top. And it winds a very close race against Roma. So that is why I'm putting my chips on Black Panther. Yeah. I love that. I do want to mention about the preferential ballot which we have talked about in years past. But so we like to consider when thinking about the preferential. Ballot is like, okay. What's the movie that's most likely to get knocked out? I like, what's the most likely to be at the fewest number one votes. And then who would that voter put his their second-place choice. And I don't love how often this question tends to break on racial lines. But that is like a discussion that we've had in years past is just sort of like, maybe if you're a black klansman is number one Black Panther is your number two, certainly probably not group because you're number two. But the favourite also seems like a heavy like one that will is likely to get knocked out in an early round in terms of most number one votes, my apologies to the favorite which I quite loved. And that seems to be like something that would maybe go for Roma being a second place choice or something like that these are barrage generalizations I making and putting people in like very very like. Generic boxes. But I don't know. That's just something that I've been thinking about in terms of preferential ballot. We'll we'll get more into that. I think that's fair. Chris we've talked a lot about it because it's just inevitable this year. How much of an impediment is bohemian rhapsody in your vision of the you know, this random guessing unified. It's very well. It's loved I mean, people love that movie. Right. Like it made a ton of money. Why they love it. Because it means they like it because they like it for some reason, certainly I did not like that movie. I thought it was pretty bad. This is putting aside all the Bryan singer allegations and just the very ugly world around Bryan singer, the movie is not good. But people extremely enjoy it. And I ended dhoti I think actually young teens really like it. And I think that, you know, just the reason I'm thinking this is like I listened to a podcast another podcast, but Bill Simmons, and he his daughter really liked it and his sunlight it right there like teenagers. Elsie Fisher got dragged onto Golden Globes. For being like or was it was it Golden Globes, or what was it where she got basic dragged for being like, I'm so excited for bohemian rhapsody, and everybody's like, it's really problematic and bad. And you shouldn't kid I know that but it kid when no that the the woman who Steven Spielberg cast in west side story, I went on YouTube deep dive of her performances because they're are just wonderful. And I can't wait for that movie. And she seems like she's going to be a big star. And a lot of her like YouTube covers were Queen songs because she loved Baheen rhapsody, so anecdotally, I feel like young people like bohemian rhapsody, if you're an Oscar voter, you know, and you have a teen. I think you maybe you're like probably watched that movie like six or seven times. So I feel like they actually do like it or enjoyed enough or maybe you're able to see it through the eyes of younger audiences, obviously general audiences loved it. So I think they actually do like it. And I think they're in twisted way. You could argue that actually awarding the movie is a protest against Bryan singer because he got fired because he got fired. So if you're a person who is going to vote for Romney. Malik for best actor who I think is actually going to win best actor because Bradley Cooper's not gonna win. Obviously as much as we would like that to happen. He's not gonna win and Christian Bale's campaign has seemingly not really done much to Golden Globes. He had that nice speech, and then just disappeared. Right. Like, he hasn't really been top of mind. So if you look at Romney Malik, he's at every single thing he was like Santa Barbara film in or whatever the hell, they call that international something always. He's making the rounds. He's doing like the work. Basically, he's probably pulling the Gary Oldman where he shakes everybody's hand. Who's gonna vote? I think you could argue that voting for him is like a vote against Bryan singer because he was the one who stood up to Bryan singer on the set. I'm kinda rolling my eyes a little here, and you know, got into a fight with Ryan singer. And he eventually was a big reason. Probably why Brian senior got fired. You could argue that if it wins best editing, which everybody dunked on editing on Twitter because it's so embarrassing and at one clip that went viral, I actually think it might win best editing at one at the awards for best editing of a musical or whatever. I forget how they delineate their categories maybe drama and comedy. Editors Editors Guild awarded it again. I think you could argue that whatever good or bad came from bohemian rhapsody was really put together by the editor after Bryan singer was fired. So I think they're okay. Well, you could be like, oh, we're going to like give it FUD Bryan singer by voting for these things for human rights, and even though Bryan singer, obviously is the author of the film and kind of profits from the movie rank base your voted for the cleanup crew. Kind of. I'm glad you value by this up. We're going to dig into like a couple of these things individually through it, all we should note that what's that damning statistics that Bryan singer stands to make forty million dollars from bohemian rhapsody so much like dirt you think people might be kicking on him. There's like a massive process. And you know, he's going to take a victory lap on social media. Like you did last time. Anyway, Scott Feinberg of the Hollywood reporter had like income sation events with Rummy malic at the Santa Barbara film festival where he he gave Romney in at like an opportunity I'm going to call it too. To make a well crafted statement on the Bryan singer allegations, which we had we have already discussed on spot guests, we were frustrated that Romney didn't even like acknowledge what was happening in his award speech or any of his other speeches. So Rummy says my heart goes out to anyone who has to live through anything like this like what I've heard and what is out there. It's awful. It's remarkable that this happens. I appreciate so much what they've been through and how difficult this must be for them in leaded, the hashtag metoo era that this somehow seems to exist after that is a horrible thing. I've sat here and talked about how everyone deserves the voice and anyone who wants to talk about what happened with Brian deserves to have their voice heard in my situation with Brian. It was not pleasant. Not at all nuts about all. I can say on this point. And the last thing he says is for anyone who's seeking solace in any of this Bryan singer was fired. Bryan singer was fired. I don't think that was anything anyone saw coming. But I think that had to happen and it did. So I have a lot of feelings about this statement that I'd tried to start to talk about on Twitter that I was like, you know, what Twitter is not the place. Read articulate this. Guess what I have an award season podcast. I can talk about this on. But I I'm curious to hear what you think of Romney's demon here. I mean, I guess it's good that he said something I think Chris you kind of alluded to the fact that he's really playing the game this year. He's Eddie red main in theory of everything he's at every event, he's charming people. And this was going to have to be a part of it like you you cannot. I mean, the Atlantic article that dropped about Bryan singer was not the kind of seismic Ronan Farrow bomb drop that that could have been for. I think variety of reasons largely stemming from homophobia, but it was he needed to address it. I think it was a fair thorough assessment of the of the issue while also completely I don't believe that any actor of his age didn't know about this stuff beforehand. I mean, it's been I I'm like three. Steps removed from Hollywood. And I knew about this. So, you know, whether or not you want to kind of get into that those semantics, it's fine. You know, most germane to our purpose on this. Punt guess is. I think it was enough to agree. Chris. I would agree. I think it is enough. I mean, I think he had a long time to figure out what that statement was. I'm sure it went through a lot of different drafts. And I think he notes up. Yeah. Certainly on his notes with probably a team of people around him. It seemed like he addressed the allegations and kind of like paid, you know. Sympathy and really showed empathy maybe to the victims, and then also painted himself as kind of like a hero who is also in a tough spot because his boss was basically addict to him and he had a fight with him. And I think, you know, he it was a very well crafted statement, I think based on just again, the fact that he's wanted every award show we've seen so far the speeches have been fine if not memorable but not enough to like sink any candidacy that he might have, you know, at the awards luncheon yesterday, it seemed like he was getting a nice ovation based on like just what people are tweeting about from their people like him enough, and they like that movie enough to want to reward the movie. I mean, I don't think it has any shot of winning best picture. But I think they'll say like Romney Malik what a great job. I mean, you know, it is what it is. And there are no other who else is going to beat him at this point. Like, that's the other thing unless he like, I don't even know how he could lose it this point because I'm just like there are no other actors in that category. Who seem like they have a legitimate shot. Christian bale is fine. Maybe vice became like a huge box office it which it didn't was not the big short. It was not the big short. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of momentum there at all it feels like one of those like movies that get like eight or nine nominations and don't win anything like gangs of New York or something. Like that. Where you're just like. Oh, yeah. That was a good movie that year, but we gave it a lot of nominations. But it's not going to win Bradley Cooper. Just again, Mark Harris tweeting about this. It's like he's basically just to hand. They don't want to give him an award. Right. It's like he's got enough. Right. We don't need to give Hoover something else. He's Bradley Cooper. Right. It's like you've seen that a lot with young with anthem actors in the past from like a Robert Redford or Paul Newman. They take some along time to win. So like, Bradley Cooper, they're like scree rally Cooper? You're Bradley Cooper. You don't even Oscar. I think I think Bradley Cooper, I think that that if I recall correctly that Marquette it was in response to Bo Burnham winning best new director, the DJ's, and it's like sort of what does Bradley Cooper have to do. I mean, I I don't I don't begrudge Bo that win because as anyone who's listening to this podcast knows. I'm. Imbo. But like the lake what does Bradley Cooper to win. Wiz job. This award season. And like I agree with what you're saying about him being to him. But also we keep bringing up and I love it. This has become the gold standard because you're not the first person to mention the Eddie read main approach to campaigning always thinking about him dancing on the Graham Norton show as like my ultimate like this dude wants an Oscar. Is Bradley Cooper wasn't playing the game. He decided not to play the game until too late in the game. You know what I mean? And that's something we noticed from the start is just sort of a star is born had all this momentum. And then Bradley Cooper's like, okay, cool. I can just like I did this piece of art. I can just show up and tell the same like one guarded story and interviews now. Right. And like everyone's like, Nope. You gotta you gotta do what Romney's doing which is talking about meeting Paul McCartney, or whatever it is on tonight show us for Romney's statement. I will just say like a couple of things I think, you're right. You're both. Right. That's probably enough. It's an it's enough for his purposes. Does it make me feel satisfied that Malik is really reckon with this in any way? No. But I guess that's probably off the point. And they will just say quickly for my specific point of view, his statement about like the fact that this could happen after the me too movement is astonishing, and I'm like that. It really is that with me the wrong way. Just because it's like the it's not done guys. First of all these Bryan singer allegations are most of them predate the metoo movement. Secondly, it's not done just because a hashtag was trailing. Did you got Email about all those problems being solved? Oh, they now sit they issued a press release that too. Yeah. You know, because I mean to we took a year. It was only like it was a hundred years of problems in Hollywood. And then we fix it and one which is great. Well. Really impressed by Hollywood. Thanks, Jack Dorsey. Anyway, the last thing I'll say is that if my Cogan is using this podcast to pitch himself as some sort of award season consultant he couldn't have done a better job his last week. He was like, you know, from a certain light Rami could kinda like, you know, take credit for getting Bryan singer fired literally Rami Mullick walk stages like tick solace. I got Bryan singer fired. I'm like, okay. But anyway, listened to my Cogan if you want to win an Oscar is my recommendation, and then the editing award, which Chris also talked about the AC editing award that went to rhapsody after boogeyman rhapsody was dragged on Twitter as you mentioned for this one scene involving the band members and aim Gillan of of a game of thrones fame with a lot of rapid cuts back and forth, really heavily involved. A chair the chair was the true stars. Just share? To like, watch the weird way. And he sort of Rikers that shares really interesting anyway that clip was like circulated as an example of how bad, quote, unquote, the editing is in rhapsody, and then I saw really interesting follow up thread about I mean, this is after I assume all the of the voting was done for the editing awards at the awards. But the I saw an interesting thread follow up that was like, okay. But this is what the editor had to work with given. Exactly what Chris is saying it's like the editor had to work with two conflicting things one is that like Bryan singer shot this and the most fired like one week left of production. And so like without of the original director who covered the various angles there to explain why the various angles recovered, and then to we've talked about this at length in terms of what he wraps the self interest of the band members who were producers on this film, and how if you look at that's and again, it's really just a conversation. Between Rami molly's character and Aidan gillen's character. But you keep cutting to the other band members in a way that this person on Twitter theorize serves the vanity of the producers that we've talked throughout about how bohemian rhapsody serves the vanity of the other band members of Queen. So maybe yes editing award for like good job trying to juggle all of those conflicting things and making a million jillion dollars on your movie sort of award, I suppose that category such a mess because Romo wasn't nominated. Right. And we all Roma is the best picture favorite for sure Black Panther. I don't think was nominated at an category neither with stars warranty. It's like bohemian rhapsody green book what else is even look gnome Sherlock, Holmes. Right. And vice I think maybe you could like vice that telling you would win for most editing and that sometimes that that trophy. It's like, oh, there was a lot of editing in that. Because most people aren't sure did look at a lot of different things that win. But again. I think bohemian rhapsody has a big support behind it. So I mean, I still have a hard time believing it will ever win best picture, but I do think it can invest editing, and it has that concert like stuff like know people like people love conju it could actually win like maybe like three or four awards, right? Because if it wins best actor best editing, and maybe one or two of the sound awards. I think it's up for at least one normally I I was gonna pick like, you know, stars born in. I forget which one sound mixing one is kind of good for sound effects, and like war, movies and stuff and the other one is good for you know, like musical performance. Mixed singles. So I mean bohemian rhapsody could easily win there even though got like that good. Well, also because for the technical thing there's been a lot of PR since that movie was announced almost like it's Romney singing with Freddie, Mercury kind of placed over it. And so that's a technical feat. I don't really know if I don't believe that either. And I think that's another thing that Romney has really going for it. And nobody is really interrogated because we've been obviously, there's so many other very problematic things about the movie. But I'm like are they really trying to say that he's singing in this movie. I guess they are. But I'm like, I know rally Guber always singing I could hear better over singing. Yeah. I'm just very mad. Nebraska. Hoover is not gonna win best actor. I'm sorry. Chris is a wonderful actor in that movie. Whatever he didn't play the game. And I understand like he's a pill. Sometimes in interviews. But man, he's great in that movie. He played the director game. He was he was kind of campaigning for director. Bradley Cooper that was open. He took the film by you know, that that's the thing. Not do film by. They take directed by not a film by. Yeah. Today shows being brought to you by Warner Brothers stars born starring Bodley Cooper, lady Gaga and Sam Elliott in their Academy Award nominated performances, the celebrated film is now nominated for eight Academy Awards, including best picture best adapted screenplay best actor, Bradley Cooper. Actress lady Gaga best supporting actress. Sam elliott. Best song best cinematography and best sound mixing chemist. Turn of the Los Angeles Times calls at passionate, emotional and fearless for consideration in all categories. Okay. So speaking of Bradley Cooper singing, and we want to mention a few updates to the Oscar telecast, if you've been following this podcast, you know, that ABC and the academy has sort of been at loggerheads trying to figure out how to winnow the long Oscar telecast down to I think it's two hours with they're shooting for which is but on us, and it's so ABC can premier a show after the Oscars do like a sort of Super Bowl lead into a show on ABC's part of it. And so. Lot of things have been happening. In terms of that we've been hearing a lot of what's going to be cut was not gonna be cut. We don't have the final word on like say which categories are going to be announced during the show, and we'll have more information on that up on Vanity Fair dot com later this week, etc. Etc. But what we do know is that after announcing that they were gonna cut all but two of the Oscar nominated songs they know now that they're all back in possibly due to some pressure from lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper. I guess or Twitter. Thank you again. Jack doors. So friendly Cooper lady Gaga, we'll do it on shallow Jennifer Hudson will perform I'll fight from Rb, David rallies, and Gillian Welch will sing when a cowboy traces spur wings from the Veleta BUSTER Scruggs, and I guess there's no like Kendrick Lamar is not confirmed as as of as of right now. And then Emily blunt will not be singing the nominated song the place where the loss things go from Mary returns. And so people are wondering who might take her place like as much as limit weld maranda was also on the Jack Dorsey machine advocating for these songs to come back in. I don't see even Lynn trying to pull off this like winsome nanny song. No singing voices. Not maybe his strafe as not like. Maranda? I think he is in a phenomenal. Just can't sing act dance. No. But he's seeing maybe not I would not think of him for a place where the loss things go. Let's weeds he can tweet guys know, and he can write a great musical. So like, but, but yeah, gold derby has like a fun little list of options who could take place into lands where I don't think. So love her Emma Thomson, maybe because she played Mary Poppins mobile numbers, Meryl Streep Amy Adams Avions is like F you. I'm not doing anything be kademi Miley Cyrus, Arianna grown days, and is a day and beyond say of beyond the last things goes something that would just. You know, that's the that's the side of the apocalypse. They think but do I think you're missing one. That list is missing one very obvious person that they could pay billions of dollars to as Julie Andrews bring their I mean, I know she didn't want to be in the movie because she didn't want to air quotes steal Emilie's thunder. I guess at the end, even though Angela lansbury his role was clearly written with Julie Andrews in mind, let her sing it. Why not well? I mean, I don't know what her what's the situation with her her? You can't. But I don't think she does. I I have to say I think bringing I think that whole best original song category is maybe in need of an overhaul. Let's say to put it politely. But I think not having the people who sang the songs in the movie performed the songs is not a great idea. Like let Tim Blake Nelson seeing that Cowboys traits. I for wings. Everyone loves Tim Blake Nelson. Everyone in that room. Like, he's been everything like that. And I think that this continued idiocy I have to think it's coming from ABC about what's going to get the peop-, you know, people who don't care about the Oscars to care about the Oscars. And it's like nothing that's really that's the answer. Like just cater to the people who are already gonna watch. It. Maybe you'll catch a few people here and there, but this idea about the actors not going to present the past winners, and it's like why because you think that if someone hears that Harrison Ford is giving up best actress they're going to be like oh, God set the DVR hunting. Like, let's watch that like, no, it's not. So I don't know. I think that the reinclusion of the songs is hopefully an example of pushback being registered by the people kind of making these bad decisions. I don't think the people making decisions are fans of the Oscars themselves, which is probably the root of the problem doesn't seem that way. In a coal Sperling has a great piece on the the problem with the Oscars. That's in our. Our special awards season issue that I guess you come can't read. I don't know. But anyway, Nicole did some great reporting in one of the things that's in. There is the fact that renegotiating certain contracts ABC got more say over what would happen at the telecast than they have in years past. And so that's part of what's going on. Is that ABC has the ability to exert more control over and there's a change of leadership at the academy. And then there's also like the kademi grappling with like this music. This sort of disasters museum project is long delayed and over budget and all this stuff. So there's just like a lot going on the. Yeah, they're grasping for something. That Richard is point out a number of times that they should just follow the the, you know, the example of the Tonys and pitch to the audience that will stick with them. Tony's are fewer fans ervices. I mean, they really are. And I know that the Oscars cast a wider net, both nationally and internationally. But like come on, man. Like like at this point. Like, I mean this. Super Bowl has has never bothered to sort of. I mean, I guess what the halftime show they try to include other people. But like if you talked to someone who's going to watch the Oscars, they were probably going to watch it last year and the year before and the before I don't think there are a lot of like sudden converts, I think Tony's are a great example. I think the Tonys have been way more memorable. Good and bad over last like five years than any of the Oscar ceremonies, right? Like, I can't the Oscars. Have they should just follow the Tonys model? I don't understand what they're trying to do. I think I actually don't dislike the idea of moving some of the awards. I know this is a controversial opinion here probably on little Goldman. But I would say like I think there is room to move stuff around. But I think you can't just like throw it in a commercial break you have to do it more. Like, you know, the EMMY awards have the creative arts Emmys, which have become like a thing in the last few years where they do like an actual pre EMMY ceremony because there's like ninety Emmys categories, and they do like sixty of them in the creative arts Emmys, or whatever it is. And they'll have like actual acceptance speeches and stuff and like rupaul will win for best. Reality competition or whatever thirty rock guest star was going to win for whatever guests award. Why not expand more Oscar categories have an extra show that they can either stream or not even air on ABC. And then have the actual show be slightly shorter. Maybe a little more like the sag awards, which I think really flowed really well this year, especially like Mangum allowance. I just think there's a way to reconsider this with an eye towards it television product of the show, and then also making Oscar fans, happier, I would be into adding more categories, but I wouldn't want to like ignore categories or be like, hey, stay tuned for this Purina ad and now Alphonso Koran get up there and except best cinematography. And then we'll just tell you. He won because you know, Nicole tweeted from the room, basically, right? It's just like are you going to not just like really weird and like dumb, but you know, whatever. So I've been talking to some of the Crossman for peace is going to go up and be at like how they feel about what's going on with some of their categories. And I'll just give you a preview that that. All just say this one thing to consider is that at the commercial breaks. Let's let's not even talk about the telecast. Let's talk about the dignity of being in the room. In terms of the commercial breaks is when everyone gets up to go to the bathroom in the bar. And so like imagine if your category gets announced during that moment when everyone's like, probably like either milling about getting drinks going to the bathroom, etc. Etc. Or the attendees of the Oscars are forced to sit there and not have any breaks in just sort of March through the whole thing. Like some sort of, you know, I don't know informa- where I. To humble rang a little bit. I went to the Oscars last year. It was real. Richard shaking his head. He can't Chris tricky. Champagne, it's ten thirty in the morning. It's pretty crazy. He's really I'm really really changed yet. It's really really talk. Obviously after we're far more aware now forever. But I went last year, and I can tell you that one hundred percent sure the commercial breaks goes so fast when you're in the room, it's basically like ninety seconds or two minutes. And if you wanna get up and go to the bathroom, then you can't go back in wants to the next segment starts, so if you're out there like I missed Allison Janney winning best supporting actress because I was like I really got to go to the bathroom and too late. I came back and I had to sit. And then you just mill about in the bar, the bar is very loud, and very crowded people are kind of like just not paying attention to the show at all. And then in the room when the brakes are happening everyone's getting up, right? So it's like you see like down on below where the famous people sitting. I was in the third deck. Maybe or whatever it was you see like everybody that last year was going over to Timothy Shalam, and like, you know, like talking to heading him. Luckily, right. It was just like everyone was like oh by Dave is in. Intimidate shallow. Having a moment. Right. They're all like milling about talking. So if you're up they're like, hey, you know, we're going to give out another award. It just doesn't work at barely works. Coming back from commercial breaks not to review last year show. But I don't know if you remember they brought out I think it was like Ashley Judd Annabel skewer, and maybe nearer servino, it was like a very powerful moment to bring all these Harvey Weinstein accusers out to have a little, you know, say about me too in those terrible accusations against Harvey, Weinstein, whatever and the room was barely paying attention. It was like you had to like people are rushing to get back to their seats. It was still very loud. And you know, you could tell they were kind of thrown off by the slightly more Golden Globes vibe of the Oscar. So it's like, it is a lot less buttoned up than you. Maybe think. And so I think giving out awards during the commercials is like never gonna work. It just doesn't seem able based on what's going on in the room unless they're just like going to announce it and just be like, hey, this guy one, no speech, right? Good luck. Just like the voice of God. Yeah. I was talking I was at Sundance last week. And I was talking to a pass to kademi nominee wants a who. But and days. Sorry. Sorry. I was talking to Paul Newman ghost. No. But she basically was like like everyone just goes to like the smoking deck at the Dobie theater or whatever. And like, and I think that that's the other thing is that like we can talk about this from the outside, which is like the way that we like to watch it at home or our tradition. But this is also at the end of a very long haul for people in Hollywood physically, and you know, and maybe there is a certain aspect of like, well, maybe they don't want it to be long. And maybe they just want to get to the party. They want to go to vanity fair's fabulous party like which I will be doing red carpet coverage for apparently, you say, stay tuned with my HOGAN. So I don't know. I think that like this whole year has been this whole offer season has been this kind of competing narrative between how we talk about movies in our writing on Twitter, whatever and on kind of issues surrounding movies bid bohemian rhapsody bee green book, and then the industry being like either, you know, covering their ears and saying well allow or just thinking about things in different way. And I think you kind of map that out pretty lucidly. Chris. About why actually the problems surrounding bohemian rhapsody are weirdly benefit for it. Because people see it as a triumph. They got it over the finish line. Not not only do they get a movie done and printed and put in theaters, but it was huge hit a fan hit. And so they see the accomplishment there and less in did they they see more of the kind of positive unless the negative. And so I don't know. I think we have to kind of retrain the way we think about things even when it comes to something as maybe trivial as the link of the actual show. I think that's fair. Let's just a few more things before we get back to Sundance in Richards tete-a-tete with Paul Newman's ghost. We want to talk about Richard mentioned, you alluded to the fact Richard that the academy announced or it was rumored that the long-standing tradition or longest standing tradition of the previous year's winner of the acting award presenting the next year's award that they were getting away from that in order to get more celebrity focus. Presenters? And so you're not gonna have Gary Oldman or ZIM Rockwell or Allison Janney, presenting you're going to have as you said maybe airs and Ford someone else someone starrier than those people will Harrison Ford plane crashed into the Dolby. I think. I think he's just kind of stuck there. They're now waiting for his dog food order from his Amazon. Alexa, add all right. So. Interesting word cow. So that's one thing. And then another thing is that they announced the first round of like who will be presenting on February twenty fourth. And so we've got Aquafina Daniel, Craig Chris Evans, Tina Fey Whoopi Goldberg. Brielle Larson, Jennifer Lopez Amy Poehler, my Rudolph man list end Berg, she'll Easter on tested Thompson and constants Wu. So are there any take aways from that like first crop in terms of what you feel like they're going for all start with Chris? What do you think of that? I think it's pretty standard list of presenters. They're clearly trying to be like, hey, did you like crazy ridge Asians, and the cast is going to be there giving out awards even though we didn't find room to nominated for anything, basically. So I think that's kind of like what they're thinking is. I'm curious, I guess Daniel Craig they think is popular because of bond, but like is he do people still care about? He's really popular for Jim Sheridan's dream house. Okay. That's good. So they'll have a renaissance for that. Maybe they'll announce like a sequel or the Oscars. I mean, those are pretty chalked presenters. I think I not to quote my own tweets. But a lot of those are like seemingly people who probably turn them down to host like Amy Poehler like my route on like, you know, concentrate who maybe or will be Goldberg. I mean, no one wanted to host this you're obviously, so they're just trying to throw a bunch of people who may be could host into the list of presenters to maybe mitigate that I'll be curious to see how the show opens more. So than anything do they just allow like one of these comedians to come out and do like a five minute two to five minute routine. Basically like Megamall alley did at the sag awards, and then just kind of move on from there or they just like do like a big pomp and circumstance number where everybody's involved and then kind of like just throw to the first award. I don't know. But that list is fine. Like, I'm sure we'll later hear that the cast of avengers is going to be presenting. Right. I mean, no. That was a big rumor, I don't know how Disney will be able to get all the adventures together. How will they do that does that in their contracts? Probably I don't know. The is part of synergy. No. I mean, I think that like Amy Poehler my Rudolph. My guess is they're going to be paired together. They're going to do a bit. I can't imagine. I don't think Whoopi Goldberg just walks up to the stage. And it's like, hey here are the nominees for best sound mixing like I think that there's probably something more involved there. Joe read another friend of the podcast is really good at predicting which presenters are going to present. What? Which is really crazily granular. Really good prediction game. I don't know what he did this year. But like I'm terrible at that. And so we'd have to maybe consult Joe on that. But, but yeah, I think that like they're gonna Pat out the lack of a host with with Ramos. And I think it's the kind of thing where like I'm sort of two minds about like, you know, when Kristen wig and Steve Carell did that funny. Bit those I think sometimes detract from the award that's being given out. You know, it's like oh that silly thing. Oh, and here by the way is like screenplay award or whatever. But like they're kind of going to need that this year because they don't have, you know, a sort of guiding you know, sort of humorous tone in the form of a host. So I'll be curious. But yeah, I'm excited already for what what they're going to have whoopy-doo. It's just circle back to competition. We had an previous podcast, which was this open letter that the Screen Actors Guild published to the Oscars, basically, saying the Oscars further kademi for years has had this reign of terror over, you know, celebrity saying you see if you presented the Golden Globes saga wards. He can't present at the Oscars, and we kind of scoffed at how ridiculous that was like, oh is if someone presenting the Golden Globes, we wouldn't care about them presenting the ostrich or something like that that being said when you were like, oh, I'm. I'm sure they'll put a BI polar ri- real altogether. I was like I just saw them do that the globe. So I don't know. I don't know that. I I mean, I'm sure they'll be delightful. They always are. But yeah, if I were you can be I'd be like, I don't want that pairing. I guess at least to be repeated like spread them out elsewhere or something like that. It's funny to me that they do that trying to be so locking key with that when the obvious fix evolve. This is just throw the show in January. I know there are alive reasons, they don't do that. But like the Oscars are now the biggest award show that is like the fourth version of this show. Right. We've seen it like, you know, the Golden Globes a critics choice awards the sag awards all happened within like a three week period. And then we wait like four weeks to see the exact same thing. It's like, okay. Like, I, you know, you're right. Like, I've seen my Rudolph and Amy Poehler a lot doing award show bits. I could imagine what that's going to be like, I could imagine what they're going to have Aquafina do and concentrate and probably even Daniel Craig will come out and be like, oh, the play the bond theme, and he'll be like here. I am you know, wacko chimes bond. It's just like. Maybe he'll do a bit with his elbow, right or something. Like that. Another thing we've seen recently. I think that was at the Golden Globes maybe where they did like an Instagram. Yes. Like all these things are done to death, and the and the movies are old Black Panther has been out for a year. So it's like how much is all of these things about the show and making the show better. Just move it up have it anywhere second. And that's it. Happy new year here the Oscars, and then we can forget about the urine film before. And just go to the new one. It's just as exhausting, and I feel like that is what they're missing here because you're right. Like, all these bits are things we've seen and care kind of like a I don't know like kind of mother, courage breakfast thing is that this. This whole little cottage industry has been built around this kind of thing this campaign, including stuff that that we've benefit from. So it's hard to kind of be like, I think that like from a purely, you know, utopian approach. Yes. Of course, we should move it up, and they are moving it up next year by two weeks, which will have probably detrimental effectively Peggy Segel's budget or like bottom line or whatever. But like and probably are too. I don't know. But like, I don't know. I maybe that maybe that move up two weeks will be a compromise. But this year really you feel that that length of the wait so long. I don't want to kneecap our own podcast. But I agree. Like, I've been thinking more and more like white isn't the just go. I like these just go first. And then maybe like the other war show can get even weirder. Because they're like, okay, you've already got an Oscar. But we're going to like give this person. This do you know, I like this idea that the other award shows are just precursors and all of this. I mean, it's what we talk about for months at a time. But and I think it's interesting because this gamesmanship, but anyway, let the was go first. Okay. We're going to give Emily blunt to sag awards. Exactly. So to speaking of movies that feel fresh and not a year old Richard just returned from Sundance can gave them the little dispatch from Park City last week. But you've seen a few more things since then. And I know you've got a piece up on dot com. That people can read to get a jump on their twenty twenty plus your thought because the Aussies is not long enough. I just like let's start talking about next. You're gonna win Richard boy. Well, the movie that won the dramatic competition. The the US dramatic competition, which is the sort of like palm door of Sundance was a movie called clemency which stars Alfie Woodard as a prison warden who has overseen. I think in the movie, it's thirteen executions. And she's having some real sort of psychological problems with that it's directed by woman Chukwu, and it's very small not made for budget, really at all. But it looks great. And it's well-directed and Alfred Witter's really good in it. And so you saw that movie. And it just felt like it's kind of like, you know, bolt out of the blue or it was like, oh, wow. This is something that is not Sundance at all. It's not cliche. It's not Britney runs a marathon, which won the audience prize. And yet doesn't have a distribution similar to debate situation camera post the movie that one dramatic competition last year also directed by women do not have distribution at one, and it kind of had to wait a few months. So we'll see I I don't know. I would love there to be now for wooder narrative. But I think that like that movie has a steep mountain to climb even though it just won a big price. Okay. So last week. It was the report that you are sort of. The report has the more sort of like likely Oscar things in the shape of that is both about like contemporary politics. I think that like it's interesting in in the two thousands like when the Iraq war started. There was a of rush of movies about it in the valley of Alah stop loss jar head that was about the other the previous Gulf war, but sort of in that vein and people just didn't want those movies like people didn't go see them. And now, I think that we have some distance like the movies about the direction. Silence of that. Like what we did like feel more urgent somehow. And the report definitely has that behind it. It also has the fact that net vending is is not only great knit. But she's playing Dianne Feinstein, a Senator from California. And so, you know, you think about voting bodies and where they're mostly based. And they're like, oh, that's Our Lady like, you know, and I don't know I think she'll be voted for I feel she's depending on how Amazon which bought the film handles that movie. I feel like of anyone at Sundance an bending is probably the most likely to get nominated playing a real person, obviously has become. Like the thing. Right. Like, it's like we've seen that so many times. So it's like, especially with the men so like for an actually for Meryl Streep, obviously from Margaret Thatcher. I mean that seems like an early I'm going to go right now and put some money on Neff ending for best actress, and and she's been good. And I think that like, you know, she, you know, look, if we have the potential satisfying of a long injustice in in Glenn Close this year, we are finally close the book on that. And every gay guy on Twitter can be like, all right? What's the next 'cause celeb-? Maybe I mean and not an F ending not only has lost a bunch of times. But she's lost twice to Hillary twenty for Chris. Have anything coming next year that we need to? She did not show. All right. So a couple of things we already talked about the dirtbag that gets on minor at Sundance already beat Davidson was getting let's talk with a dirt bag that gets on. Everyone's nerves Shiloh buff. You gotta like a little bit about shy in your piece. What do you want to say about about shies? Well, I wish we had our other critic Cam Collins here because he's the one who saw the movie and reviewed it as movie Honey boy, which is really autobiographical untold. It's about a child star and his very domineering father. And and then that child is later played as a know young adult by Lucas hedges that Leboeuf wrote as part of a therapy or rehab program. Like, it was sort of. It was homework essentially to kind of talk about his life. And then he turned it into a fully screenplay that now has become a film and child above plays a version of his own father. And so I feel like that meta thing combined with a Hollywood narrative like it's probably two already too into Sunday NC to really actually gain traction in the award season. I mean, we're still nominating. Something green book. So like we have a long way to go. But like a, but I do question whether or not Hollywood just rooting for Shiloh book because like he was like Steven Spielberg's kid like he kind of like brought him in. He gave them a lot of chances. And I wonder if he's burned through all those but the reception in Park City to that movie was pretty positive from both the kind of fan side and the more industry or press side. So I'm curious about that one. And then the last question that I want to ask about is the farewell you mentioned this. Yes. Sort of Aquafina showpiece. What do you want to send you? I had not seen the farewell. When we recorded last week. I I missed the first screening, and so I had to catch up later in the week. And I'm really glad I did. It's a really marvelous movie. I mean, it's it's Sunday NC. You know, it's it's I think I mentioned that my review it's a family drama d you know, it has funny parts and sad parts. And I think that's kind of common for Sundance a little miss sunshine. Juno, whatever. But this one feels different because it's about a particular. Experience. It's based on the director Lulu hangs own family. It's Aquafina doing dramatic term, which is exciting. So I mean, I think it could be like a screenplay thing. And maybe, you know in a perfect world, a supporting actress nod for shoes NGO who is a place kind of matriarch of the family who's dying, but doesn't know it. But yeah, I don't know that feels to be more like they'll release it Nagas te and it'll have like some decent box office and good. It'll be kind of like eighth grade. You know Wednesday for who picked it up. Yeah. Exactly twenty four by and like eighth grade got blanked this year at the Oscars, which I was sort of surprised by. But yeah, I was too because they really were pounding the pavement. I felt like Bob Myrna Z Fisher were everywhere, and they were charming while doing and aggressive. That's a complete. That's a plea blank for eight four right? Because I I I. Far. So they have that at least and mid-nineties is thing that happened. Okay. Is there anything allegedly? Is there anything else you want to mention from from sedans or no sorry to give it a little just diary about the festival. No that that was kind of the big things. I think that, you know, a lot of what we just talked about in terms of the Oscars. And all that was was definitely what people were talking about on the ground at the parties. And not that I went to parties I was in bed by eight PM every night. Like a good bike. But you know, I think that the industry just in general feels influx. And I think that like it was interesting that Sundance this here that Netflix didn't buy anything or they just now bought the Zafran as Ted Bundy movie. But that was after the festival, but you know, they've been such a big buying presence in years past and scooping up movies and kind of throwing them into the bin of you know, like even pass Sundance winners. So there was kind of some I think relief about like Netflix, not running the show. But also kind of nervous question about like, what are they doing? Like are they not in the buying acquisitions thing anymore because they have all of their own originals and the Amazon kind of rushed into fill that spot. Fox searchlight was present of the festival, but didn't buy anything. So I don't know. There was a lot of uncertainty about the industry, and I think that like our broader uncertainty about like the award season is here was certainly kind of affecting that. So it was an interesting year to be at Sundance. All right. Well, listen, if Shiloh puffins Pete Davidson are both in the supporting actor category next year. You're gonna quit your job and move to the desert, right? For me. Hello city. Christmas or anything else? You want to say about the well. Okay. Here's the last thing. I'll ask you before we scoot out of here. Which is that you mentioned your Black Panthers sat. But like you had a crazy. Let's call it. Crazy wild prediction in the supporting actress. Yes. So yeah, I think that I'm gonna I'm butcher her name. So if one of you wants to save me pleading marina, James marina dates Eric and actually win for Roma. Because again, I put a lot of stock into hilariously. We were just talking about moving the Oscars upfront. I put a lot of stock into the fact that I think a lot of these awards are one in the last two months here before the Oscars because of the speeches. I don't think necessarily the movies matter as much as the presentation so Glenn Close for the wife won her Oscar at the Golden Globe speech. That speed was amazing. It was one of the best beaches. I've heard in a few years. It was so powerful. She tried to replicate it at this awards. It didn't even matter that it wasn't as good. She one. Right. I don't know if people are actually going to watch the wife now, they don't even need to. They're just going to say Lynn, close great speech you want. It's about you know, and Rami Malik again. Like, we said, I don't think he's speeches have been very noteworthy. But they haven't been like Peter for rally winning at the Golden Globes and just just tanking. I think what was his best director nomination and probably green books chances. His speech was really kind of not great. So using that as like the guide rails. What has Regina king actually one? Right. She won at the New York Film, Critics Circle and gave him very lovely speech. She did one of the Golden Globes sushi if that was our one speech he wasn't nominated Sancti wasn't nominated BAFTA. So we had our Golden Globes each is really nice. And since then she has not been seen basically now yesterday at the Oscar nominees luncheon, she was given a very very loud ovation. That was I think he'll be cannon tweeted that from the vents indicating with Regina. So she is well liked and obviously that's a big deal. But I just think broadly like if you're an international Oscar vote or you're just not at the lockers luncheon, if you're just watching these shows it's like well, the sag award. She wasn't there. And you know, you haven't seen her since the Golden Globes. And now you're kind of going in. There wasn't a lot of support. Unfortunately for Bill street. It didn't get a best picture nomination. So I'm not sure Regina king is the lock that everybody seems to think, unfortunately, she's really wonderful and Beale street. It's a great performance. It would be great. If she won the reason, I'm picking marina. Tavira is that Roma has a ton of support. And I think normally there's a weird acting twist where you're not expecting it. The most recent one maybe Mark Rylance over. So that's just alone that was more probably political because people don't necessarily like Sylvester Stallone. And they kind of like did like Mark Mark Rylance that being said that was a surprise nomination. We were all kind of like not expecting her to get nominated. It makes sense because maybe this morning actress categories pretty thin this year, even or at least based on the nominees, and then you look at the nominees. Okay. Amy Adams, if she was going to win you don't want it to sag awards. So she's she's also not that good advice. It's not a good performance. If she would win for that. I think it would have not, you know, she definitely deserves an Oscar I like Amy Adams, but she's vices not the favorite co stars will knock each other out. Unfortunately, I think they both should win probably Rachel vice over everybody on earth. But sure, and then you're left with Regina king. And then marina again, I just think it's like people haven't seen everyone talking about Roma. There is a very high probability when best picture much to my chagrin. And much to my board of crazies tinfoil heading we'll beat by. I think you know, there's a good chance that she could be an upset win. The Oscars have expanded their international ranks in recent years. She obviously had a big support among the actors branch, which was unexpected people really liked Roman and a bunch of categories. And maybe she squeaks by Regina king for a movie that you know, again was kind of like under appreciated by Oscar voters this year. We'll right. If you think about the kind of like in many ways, Oscar voter who hasn't actually watched everything and is going down the list and their Lincoln. I've seen Romo yet. There we go check. Right. But you know, like, they check her watch all the bet you would hope they are going to watch the best picture rights, and they maybe haven't seen Beale street on right because it's not a best picture nominee. I mean there are times when a movie like Beale street could produce a supporting actress winter we just saw that last year with Allison Janney. Right. She won I Tanya, but she wants so much. It felt like just an unstoppable for she was at every award show. She was doing everything, and I think just Regina. It would have been night. I think if she would have won at this ad words or been nominated this acoords that women great. She wasn't nominated by the BAFTA awards, which is this weekend coming up like the voting's gonna start and we're going to be like, oh, I think even I just now is like oh did she win at the Golden Globes? And I'm we do this for a living in air quotes. But I'm like, you know, what I mean? Like, if we can't even think of it as an awards voter going to be like, I like, Regina king that being said, she did have a big ovation at the Oscars luncheon, the performance is wonderful. And if she wins that we great but end she's won Emmys for shows that like, no one watch. It is a very there's a very compelling case Regina king to win. But I will wildly guess marina data VERA Romo. Just because I think like that's a possibility. And no matter who wins we win because. Great. And then they sort of exciting on expected in some senses wins or a recognitions for movies that might not otherwise get recognized in acting categories at least, so yeah. So here's what I've say for Oscar night if both Lek anther and marina win Christmas, and I will be sending you I think probably a cake and cake and love a cake cake that is made to look like tin foil. I love what do I do? I. So yes. So those are the latest news some wild predictions from Chris rose, and that may or may not affect your Oscar ballot voting, and that's it. I think for this week of little gold men, Chris where can people listening find you for more while predictions or anything else this award season? You can follow me on Twitter at Chris Jay Rosen and also read TV guide dot com website. Well, you're running. And Richard lesson. I'm at Riley is gonna pump again to the twenty five years twenty five scenes thing that can call him tonight. Did that's that looks amazing. They did a really great job with the the layout. I say again, I did it was not out with less last week on our other podcasts. We did Tom and go look at that. Go read the rest of the Hollywood issue, including Cam collinses preview of the new Quentin Tarantino movie, including my essay about just like the last twenty five years in film, and from a personal standpoint, I'm really really happy with this Hollywood issue. 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Lucy Boynton & Jordyn Woods?

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Lucy Boynton & Jordyn Woods?

"Healings? You know, what I did not like what green book Bosco for best picture winner. Green book will what did you like green? Chef the Oscar winner for best picture of. Are you getting a green chef had gone up there and one over every other movie that was in competition last night? I would have been happy movie, but it's the winner in my heart. I know it's not a movie, but it could've it would've taken everything. And I would have been like this makes no sense. But I'm happy they would've cook dinner for one of the audience, Spike Lee would not have left, right. Whenever green chef one. I'll tell you that. I love green lady Gaga would've clapped Glenn would have clapped. We left me. We love we love green. It's not problematic. It's just delicious. Green is a USDA certified organic company, and it lets you choose from a wide array of easy to follow lifestyles with select organic ingredients. They give you like easy step by step instructions. They bring all the food to your door. 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You don't I'm Lindsey Weber arm Bobby finger, and we before we get started here. What we are literally going on tour this weekend again. Yes. Minneapolis, milwaukee. Cleveland buy tickets who dot us slash live. See us, Minneapolis Milwaukee. Cleveland come out see us. We'll be there this weekend were so excited. We're very excited. And now it's onto the Oscars. Right. Let's talk about the Oscar God. I honestly don't feel that terrible. Only a little terrible. I feel like a mix of good and terrible. I feel mostly fine. Really? Even after Hollywood's biggest night, even after Hollywood's biggest night calling it Hollywood's biggest night is one of the funniest things about the Oscars. It is really good it. And it was a good Oscars. It was a good Oscars. That were there were enough. Good moments to overshadow the terrible moments of which there were I had fall. There were. And I think what was great was green book winning best picture was terrible. But it wasn't as bad as if bohemian rhapsody won best picture. So I felt like I could be okay with it. Like, I wasn't with it. But I wasn't like, whoa. The worst situation did not happen. I was just glad that I got some use out of all of my green book merch like showed up to the Oscar party and all of my green book hat. That's. Book. I had a green book an actual green blame Peter Farrelly. Daddy, hat a loved it. It was that movie is really a bummer 'cause I feel like it's not good. But then people who liked it misunderstand. Why people who didn't like it didn't like it, you know? And then there's just weird like conflict of people earnestly being like, I thought it was a nice, Bob LA. And then other people will like it's bad because it just it was like all easy Nash of ideology, it's easier to get the. It's so like smarmy and good hearted that it's easy to to avoid everything that's wrong with the and it's easy. And it's hard to look up all of the problems with like with regards to Dr Shirley's family that requires effort in a way that like knowing the Bryan singer socks is a little easier. These days, you know, like that movie got more like this is a problem. Visually just upsetting. It's just bad. Like, even when they showed the clip and they're like Romney Malik like a nation. Clips him. He was lip synching terror his Ostra clip was lip synching that was shocking. So has he upgraded is now of them or something like I own even know, I think came -ust be he felt the stage. I mean, the Oscars did not want him up there. He fell off the stage right after he won the award was pushed off the stage by the ghost of, Freddie. Swear to you or like, Adam Lambert, like, you know, pushed about a member and the stage fell off Adam Lambert was fantastic talk about redeeming queens legacy or some good if corny show opener good if forty. Every Lucian to a problem, although he was going to perform no matter what I think. Right. Like, yes. No, no host not having a host conic iconic. I thought it was weird because I thought I almost missed the funny random bits, but would have grown if they had existed. The thing about the ostriches like I like all of the trash even though I will complain about it. So it's like, right. I didn't necessarily miss all of that trash, and I didn't necessarily miss all of those montages. But when they're on. I love them like I level those light to complete chair like the WBZ love those things. Inside is through. All of my dreams become realities. And some of my realities become dreams. I'm not life. Stories of beautiful. But I wasn't lying. All there weren't any movies because it was so speedy. It was like it kept a beat that the Oscars. Never keep you know. Which was good. That was good. It was good. We got to see people actually accept a war is nice. And it was it was good. Also because this was such a weird Oscars. Like, this is the worst I've ever done in my Oscars ballot in years and years and years maybe ever so it was filled with fund surprises and good speeches and like impounding fun facts afterwards. Like, the the women who the women new one for Black Panther for costume design and production design are like the number two and number three like women of color to ever win non acting awards that was a huge feet on the gate, great speeches. So it's gave win rate speech. It imagine putting those speeches that are usually the most heartfelt ones because they're like the the people who noticed all year. Right. I mean, we we would have only gotten like the best speech would have been Libya Coleman, which would have been nice, but we would have missed out on these other really important moments to hear some sort of like song dance from whoever the. Hosts I've thought it was nice because it it gave the host looseness gave everyone a chance to like ham up there. You know, the presenting you know, when when when Melissa McCarthy Brian tire Henry's that was really really fun. It was a rakish tilt to a hat the drape of fabric. Just so. Nuance and sophistication just she qualities. Of the most effective costume design. These artists create a steetch of textiles with often tizzy yet never distract from the stories bunny. And if didn't feel over the top because we didn't have this host that was already doing these over the top silly things. And we know that it wasn't like a waste of time to engage. The last thing I needed was Ellen in Freddie, Mercury drag and we didn't get it was great. And honestly, we still got our Maya Amy Tina opener even on was really funny. Everyone's like, well, why don't they host? It's like they don't want to. But wasn't good enough. Wasn't this enough? What else does a host really do other than make like that opening monolog said of jokes and then handful opening model on than there in like four more times doing terrible bids the opening monologue. Always like fine too terrible. So it was really funny tonight because it was about this the meta commentary of having had a host and not having a host, which was hilarious. Again. We are not your. This year. But if we had hosted it probably would have gone like this. Well, I'm BUSTER Scruggs, like hardly know her paycheck. A good one. Hey, Chadwick bozeman. What kinda plans you got later? He spanks her so tight they've entered my spider verse. Schram Elliot from leeann mustache and Lucy pointing Lucy Boynton got her moment in the sun. God did anyone get more screen time than Lucy Boynton, Lucy Boynton? You're the heart of this film. You are beyond mentally talented. You have captured my heart. Thank you so much. Anyone did anyone who we had no idea who they were get most green time Boyne. We've certainly talked about Lucy pointing in the past because she was stating Malik when we discussed him last time because Romney Malik loves dating has women co stars. Yeah. I'm not saying that his back, but he loves dating women stars. Are you not saying Ben is Bobby saying that is back? Ben is back. He loves his beautiful girlfriend. I mean, he when he he went back to kiss her. He got a second taste just kiss the worst. The worst thing about Romney Malik sitting next to Lucy Boynton was that his mom was like actors was like in the valley like his. She was like England nail. My mom is in here somewhere. I love you. I love you lady. I don't know where mom is like mum. And then they cut to mom. He didn't even know where she was sitting. I bet she was like in another room. They were like can we get is on the mom. The mom is in off a off shoot room in Pasadena. Bradley Cooper, Bradley Cooper, set next to his mom. More famous out. Bradley Cooper's mom 'cause she was sitting front row. Rami Malik mom. Who knows where she was? I mean, I'm not convinced that woman wasn't just some random attendant in a wig and like incognito because he should've known his mom was. But it's funny is the producers knew where his mom was noticed that they do like they had got they figured out where she was or whatever and had the camera for him to like thank her. He's like mom. I love you lady. And she was God knows where she was like another planet. She was looking down from the balcony, you could see like she was pitched looking downward Rami Malik dislike him, I just hate them movie. And it really like rubs off on him. This is the first Oscars in the I can't remember when that I haven't seen all the best picture nominees yet. Didn't watch me up city. I didn't do it. It's honestly like really really terrible. Like, I really I knew going in that was going to be terrible. But it surprised me it it feels like a lifetime movie and lifetime movies are often quite good. But it was like a bad lifetime. No. It just it's like a really really weird impression. And then the story moves so quickly, and is so clearly flawed, and like missing things that it just feels so bad it feels so bad, and he'll be at the piano and be like another one bytes dust. And you're like what that's how that song written? It sit down at a panel and say another one bites the dust like. That's weird. I guess also movies about songwriting are songwriting really tough to show in film. Right. It's it almost feels like the creative process does not know translate. No, no, not in the slightest. So it's just like I'm very excited to see the Eddie, God, the Elton John bio pic, that's like kind of at the heels of Bahia and rhapsody like gleefully hanging on trying to like, you know, riots at jer ten sings sings all the songs, so it's kind of interesting they don't sound like Elton, John they sound like tearing Edgerton not that. I know what he sounds like or looks like really I have. No, let's go back to Lucy Boynton, Lucy Boynton is dating Ravi Malik why? Because they met on the set of abo- rhapsody. She played Mary Austin. I don't know who that is is fake girlfriend. They make too was wife of okay? Which is why old that Romney? If you just think about it. Just take a step back saying Romney Malik is deeply in love with his love slash lover his lover. For Lucy Boynton who played the wife of Freddie, Mercury. Takes a step back goes to the valley looks. I'm literally going to sit with his mom in the back for the rest of the show put on someone Oculus like Cubal opera, Baloch binoculars. Lakes. It's just too much for me to handle. And she's a young child star. She's an influence or model. Apparently. She's a big deal. We had a friend of the Oscars party. Who was like, no. She's a big deal. You don't understand like, she's huge. She's and implements. So she's a model. She's doing everything. Right. She is it girl her Instagram is an algorithm and yet her Instagram, but doesn't seem person called her the Sienna Miller of. Of day. And I was like like. Like. Miller up today that works. So that's Lucy pointing as I feel like honestly, she's probably gonna end up being more famous than he is ultimately at the end of the day. Maybe maybe see it. I see point. I think this was her coming out parties, I think this was her already. I think that she's going to dump his ass, and then like move on to bigger and better things move onto greener pastures really to move on to pastures. She's going to start dating Peter Farrelly, and or whatever Villalonga knit Villalonga. She's going to greener building her masters, Nick Villalonga. Fuck. No. I mean, but I do believe Villalonga went up there tower. Weiss? I don't I don't wanna talk about it. I it's upsetting to me that that those movies were even there's always bad movies. But like. Herschel Owens for it. And you're like, I guess I I'm what are the who were the other who's? So we had Libya Coleman toe the line of them last night because she had the biggest upset one over Glenn Close. Glenn who shot herself in the damn foot by hours, you work, gos-, cours coun-. She wore she dressed as Oskar even God address. Like, she was at a funeral. She knew she was going to lose Glenn Glenn. No, one got one no one owned harder than Glenn Close. I mean, we gotta talk about this. You gotta tell us who made this came back. Look at this marketing this capable tell us about this is made by west Borton at Carolina Herrera, and he made it especially for me. And it has four million beads or Bill. John. Weighs forty to forty two. This time you come to the author the real Dr Shirley got owned harder than Glenn Close but apart from the real Dr Shirley, no one got more owned than Glenn Close. And we couldn't even be mad long because vehicle just gave the best speech of the night. And then we were like, Glenn who what we stand Queen Anne really legend all about. Ooh, it's genuinely quite stressful. This is. Gone. I think people if the way I forget anybody I'm gonna find you later, I'm going to give you a massive snow, and I'm really sorry. If I might forget now, it's true though. Because I seemed Len speech, I saw the speech forty five times. The problem is like every award show leading up Glenn was winning. So we saw the same speech. Unlike and then Livio was like this fresh air. And I think the thing about the Oscars we prefer fresh air over what we've seen before not NPR Provo the Greg paid. I just air. We love fresh air. We love fresh air who else was a who last night at the at the Oscar ceremony who else did you find hooey? I I'm trying to. Billy porter like kept on kept his momentum by doing pre show stuff was dressed wonderfully. He's still not super famous. So it was kind of a big deal that he had such a high profile thing. It's one thing to be the standard of the Golden Globes. But like the authors are kind of another thing Aquafina went up there, which was huge. I think Aquafina John Mullany and she did a great bit. I think like they really, you know, people who love John Mullany like I think no who Aquafina is. But like the combination of them together. I think got new fans for both was full. I don't really know who the other that was like better than her SNL host. I mean, it was lying. It was lying. Them's like, the big the big Spike Lee moment, the big like, Regina king moment. The big Ofri solo the free solo people. They were cute. I loved free solo. I Li talked about like costume and production, design and them. Oh, you know, the the fun who the composer? Oh, yeah. He the the Black Panther, sir. He was fun. He looked like he looked like the guy from dating around Ludvig. Sorry, lewd v Johnson. He was a fun. Who is that enough for the Oscars? It was great to talk about our foods your nightmare. Your. Their food with the fuck are you talking about I made delicious homemade Christian bale kale? Christian kale Caesar featuring? I already forgot it was so stupid. I kids which is like which is like in Kisii audience is like excuse me. That's supposed to be Regina, king, pizza's k. Pitas king. What the fog there's something you could add pepitas. If you wanted what was the one in the middle though that was really bad. I'm ready. Forget vine was Al Fahd's, Matt Kwara, knee and cheese topped with sliced Roma tomatoes. It was very good. It was good of one of green greens, which was my son, and that was the best one greens greens shock the best per green. Book was green shook honestly. It was a salad. We also had Melissa mcnuggets. Can you? Forgive us. Can you ever? Forgive us for Brownsville. I loved the chicken nuggets. Honestly, you can never go wrong by bringing mcnuggets. No, we had guacamole and a star. Is corn bread. Lee Cooper casserole. That's before. And after in case Josh made can you ever beer me starring Michel outta McCarthy's? Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Levy on roast. We had other rose was amazing all avoid Coleman cake. So lashes spice cake Lee, Queen ants rabbits, which is like rabbit cookies. We had garlic bread Lee Cooper with a little Italian sauce from New York. We in Rachel Weisz in beans. Terrible Melissa Macroom Tae. I love to star fruit is here, which was just a slice star fruit. Thank you Brian for your contribution. And then Brian being like has anyone tried the star for it's so good? A love the store food. So good this store food, so good. It was good. Honestly, was it. Look. It was a great night for puns food. I saw a lot of guys like tagged us or send us your puns food. And it was a great night for punts foods, it was we should put an ad here. And then move on to Jordan. And we won't be doing awards during the commercials, but we will be presenting commercials during the awards. 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And I think it's just promo for the show which premieres end like three weeks, which certainly is. I don't understand why we care about Jordan woods. I thought like Jordan woods could kill someone on maybe like yawn. What's interesting about this is it reminds me of when Kylie was pregnant, and we also said is this promo for the show and the answer was yes. And no was she really pregnant. Yes. Was the promo for the show. Yes. Like in. It's unbelievable. How they work on two levels. This one is more like because. She is a good thing. Like, it was it was good. So it ended up being like to positive things as promotion versus a negative fake thing for promotion. His at first I was kind of like is this a fake thing for promotion. I mean khloe in Tristan already kind of have a rocky relationship. Maybe it was like, oh, you know, whatever. But I don't feel like this really throws Jordan under the bus in a way that is not. I don't think she would sacrifice herself. Or be asked to sacrifice herself. Like this in the name of show that she really isn't even on. Okay. So who's Jordan once Jordan woods is Kylie jenner's longtime best friend they met when they were literally like teenagers, really young. They met maith grade two were introduced by a longtime friend of both the woods and the jenner's Jaden Smith the son of Will Smith and Jada Pinkett. Smith Jordan's father, John was a sound engineer of the fresh prince of Bel-Air, okay, and physically Jordan became like kylie's. Dont best friend. What is your vice for to keep a friendship forever? You just can't put too much pressure on them. You have to understand each other and be open to communicating with how you feel understandings the two things that worked with us lower already. We have a personality that just kind of matches. So I can go two days without talking to her. I can go to talking to her, but nothing will change we've ever gone to talking more. So like two hours, but and respect for each other, whatever Jordan herself is a model. Does a lot of modeling. And now that she's like an influence our show has a fitness line. And she goes all this stuff. I interviewed her once for profile, and she was so incredibly boring. I could not stand it because I also because I profiled three of four women or three women in the same. No four women the same day. Like, I interviewed them back to back. And she was like the last one I interviewed and ready interviewed like sky Jackson Oriole winter by also be at. That's what Jaden and Will Smith in the slew of other cool kids you've likely heard of. But that just means she's got good taste like I had to literally pivot in and out. You know, because I'm a talent. -ted as writer. I know. Thank you. So Jordan woods this week. While we were like really going around the Bush beating around the Bush going around the Bush. We're going around the Bush year me prancing around the Bush skipping. My like ones are so visual versus the actual one. So Jordan, Jordan woods was caught. Smooth ching hanging out with nuzzling cheating with Tristan Thompson that is chloe's boyfriend the father to her child. True. Yes. This is a huge deal because we knew that he was shady he'd already cheated on on khloe before that was on caught on camera. Understanding cheaters g but the twist which there always is is that it was with Jordan, which is like shocking because Jordan, literally lives inside Kylie jenner's house aunt that's a lot to put on the line for like a smooch, or whatever, you know, or whatever else happened. And so now it's been days. Later. I mean, we we kind of waited a full episode to talk about this. We wanna see if anything else would happen. I hate when we talk about something. And then like a big thing happens. But really like nothing else has happened. Like there's been a lot of sources. We'll did you see the source that said that she only cheated which Chris tristen because she was drunk. I am also read another source that was like they've been doing this off and on for like a month or something. Yikes. Like, it wasn't like, oh, we're drunk like lump, you know. Well, then this is so it's like, so it's so it's your right? So it's you get yes. They're doing this remote the show, but yes, it actually happened. So it's like in the actually happen point of it. It's like, yes, the cheating probably did occur. But the promoting the show is we are going to milk the hell out of this. And keep releasing like source after conflicting source source after conflicting source up until the March thirty first premier of the thirty ninth season of keeping up occurred Ashi, and so, you know, like we're gonna keep getting conflicting sources until we know the truth. And even the truth is not really something to believe, we should always be skeptical of Carter. Well, the funny part about the story. I thought was when her line got deleted off kylie's website like immediately. Well, it went on sale and people did it'd been on sale before. But it was like the only thing on sale, which was shady. I mean, they all what's Larry is. They all are so good at feeding into it. Like Molina's commenting and Instagram chloe's commenting on Instagram, Kim, posting shady videos of herself singing like, you know, about cheating men, everyone chloe's posting inspirational quotes about moving on and being, you know, the bigger person or whatever it's it's the corrections. Just very hard for me these days because it's like I I don't necessarily wanna give Kris Jenner the credit. I think people like wanting to give her like, oh and other Kris Jenner masterwork. Like, yeah. I think she's powerful. And I think she is clever, but I don't necessarily think she's as smart as we sometimes think she is sometimes things just happened. And I think this to me sort of. Seems like something that happened. And they're trying to milk it like, I don't know that this was planned. I don't know that this was I don't know. Really don't think that they would throw Jordan under the bus like this. There's got to be other things up their sleeves. Maybe not. I don't know. I mean, it's so difficult to say, I mean feeling still reeling from the Jesse smell at thing in terms of leg truth versus fiction, and like what people are capable of in terms of like kind of obviously not comparing these two stories they're wildly different. But in terms of just like somebody famous claiming something, and the, you know, the world kind of siding with them. And then you kind of starting to suspect that something might be upper like, this seems a little bit the timeline scenes off, or why would this happen this way, you know? And it's one of those things where I guess as a celebrity loving podcast. We're going to lean in like tell you the story, but I also feel like you have to kind of see the mechanism behind the. The madness. Yeah. It's I just I do think that this is yet another signifier that this empire is on its last legs when they're leaning on Jordan woods of all people for the drama. And also, this my last thing, I'll say is that this didn't have this didn't happen before she had before she closer gap. Right. So Jordan, we last talked about her because she closed her gap, which is shocking, and this happened saying, she can't gap. You're the gap my favorite one of my favorite things headlines about this is from people headline, Kylie, Jenner and Jordan woods got friendship tattoos almost three years before cheating. Of course. They did. They got tattoos three years. They got they got best friend twos. When they were teenagers. Great. Thank you. It's just so funny three years ago. They're like three years before the end, she cheating scandal. Is because they were friends we get another great headline. Jordan woods face of regret revealed as she is whisked away from event while her career life of luxury and close bond with Kylie Jenner hangs in the balance over cheating scandal, the Daily Mail is just like takes a photo of her in a car hoodie off. That's all you can see her capless teeth. You know, it's tough because it really is one of those things where these two were very authentically. Good friends like in terms of they had a show together, Kylie, you know, trotted her out at every event like took her with her. She was like helping to raise the child the kid supposedly because Travis Scott's on tour. So like, you know, she just like acted as close pound confidante co babysitter or whatever. And so there's a lot of headlines like went what the Kardashian stink la- happened with Kylie, Jenner and Jordan woods friendship amid the Tristan Thompson scandal. So everyone's kind of like they're going to Cali gonna forgive her. Like, we're going to put this on Tristan. But so far we have not. No, we have not Tristan sort of been left out of the narrative and a way that I find annoying. It takes two to Tango take to to angle. It really does take unless you're unless you're enough. You know, a Selma Blair movie Neff Campbell movie, and it takes three in which case it takes three. Well, barely even get that out of my mouth that was so bad after tonight three of us not to be seen. After tonight. Well. We're your way. It was such a bad joke that it knew it. I wanna give some brief updates because we have some brief updates number one maranda Lambert. Seems preg-. I believe this woman seem this woman who we've been following closely since the shocking shotgun wedding or surprise wedding. Shoutout. Saddle trans on Instagram. Who is this like hilarious? We talked about her last week. This woman who sells her wares on Instagram and still does even whenever she's doing a really lengthy story about Miranda Lambert, it will be peppered with like by necklace, or like, whatever whatever she makes. Well, what's interesting is that this woman, how did she get this role in the first place of being the Randall? She's just she's a local local, she's a local, and she knows a local a Nashville scene person on the country music as friends with people who are the way that it's suggestion, Iran. She is friends with women whose lives have been. Ruined by random Lambert. So she's had. But what's what's interesting is the story has continued because she basically by doing this has opened her DM's to every person who lives in Staten Island. So now, she's getting all the Staten Island people who are friends with at the hot baby mamas slash ex-fiancee. That's two different women not the same woman. Now, they're all sliding into her DM's, and she's literally just reading her dams, which is honestly become insane. It's not even her information any more. It's like she's getting shoes from Scott, and she is just like showing the photos of hot cop at a baby shower showing the photos of hawk up and these women that like. They have to be from the source, right? Unless we're getting played to an extent that I can't even imagine when Kayla the mother of his child found out he was engaged and was very pregnant at the time and contacted Jackie. I don't know how she found out. And so I can't speak to light that situation. I can't imagine being either of those women in just I can't think of a more morally conflicting, and like her breaking scenario, just Paul. Engagement comes to an end. And then he just continues his relationship with the mother of his child. They were living together. They were about to be parents together. Had they were building nursery to get other having baby showers together. Everything was together. They're very much together. And then he met ran Lambert while they were still together he had a child while they were still together. And for all intents of purposes, it sounds like they were together up until end of November while he was getting this other relationship with Miranda going, I think so I mean, these are a lot of like really upset like bidder people in like not in a bad way like coming forward. And being like, this is so fucked up you it's just like this guy is such a such an apparent sleaze that I think seeing the string of women that he's left behind and then like, especially the pregnancy that the baby that he had with another one right before meeting Randa suggests to all not just this woman, saddle tramp brand not just her, but suggests to his exes that he. Doc Miranda Lambert up like that's what everyone thinks. I'm I I'm convinced as well. The other damning thing from this new information dump is that she was falling the baby, mama. Miranda was falling the baby mama on Instagram and following the kids hash tag, which I don't support a child's name hashtag. But apparently the child had a hashtag name, and you can follow hashtags on Instagram. Miranda was following up until she so I think the day before the marriage news dropped and then she was no longer following them. So this woman Asian coming here. I feel like we shouldn't even you know, spend too much time because of its so what this woman is saying is that she suspects that was an intimidation tactic on the part of Miranda say like don't say anything or something which I'm not sure I believe I believe it's more like this associate Pathak behavior. I'm not. I'm not sure like what could Miranda really do. And that's no because I don't think necessarily the girl new why maranda it wasn't intimidating. It was just like what I think it was random Lambert being like, oh, yeah. You're though, right. Like, I don't even think like because they I don't think that maybe this girl even knew that hurt ya her the father of her child was dating Morand lamb, the speculation goes a little far there. But if it is true that Moran was following these women and the hashtag, that's. Insane behaviour. I don't know that it's been timid -ation tactic. But I think it's insane behavior. Also, I wanna correct you implied that the hot cop was not at the salad dumping incident. He was he was at the salad dumping incident. Because if you listen to the nine one one call the caller says there is out of state cop here with maranda Lammert. And you're like clearly that's hot cop. The sources just described him as older than he is which is a fun piece of shade. There was a young guy in an old guy gotten a fight. The young guy was a hot cop, and the old guy was the the old guy that they were talking about. And they got an argument, which is shows these these hot head this hotheaded other. I mean, honestly, that's how we're going to come out with this. As like, they truly are both equally a problem. Now. My problem. Thank god. It's not my problem. You know, what is my problem? Shut up. You know, what is my? Travel. Ben, Ben and shook us are back to gather. And that it's just going to ruin my fee. Are you sure they're back together? Not just like meeting up for a cough, e I mean, this is how you date in LA, you meet up in the Bentley you go get coffee together at that is dating when you are famous, and they're not just being up for job at a catch up over old times just for old time sake. No, I don't think. So I mean, the people source says like they're just hanging out. They enjoy they enjoy company know that love Israel between the two of them. Like, I do find nothing more romantic than two of the big picture of to them in dark car holding coughing occur down that street with two Starbucks. Got me going. Smiling at the camera. Shook us loves this shook it's happy. It's like nice. She's like probably happy. They're back together. I hope so she never drank Java. She doesn't like drinking job alone their arms around each other. That's old. No, they were just like in a car sitting together. Yes. A she was did you the thought of her and Halsey sweatshirt know why she's at Halsey sweatshirt because she's an SNL Booker like her holiday sweatshirt. Yes. I think they had to make because it's Halsey SNL. They made them for for the crew every they must make sweatshirts every every week thing. A new sweatshirt you don't need to sweat your. I don't know. Why would the outlier Bohol Z? What like if they make one for halls even make one for everyone? Well, devastator that's like SNL anyone else. But Hosie link words, why would you want the mother of once casual look was complete with gray sneakers? Some aviator sunglasses on them. Love shy like them. I love that. I love that shook us getting attention. Again. I missed shook us I shook us is good for bad. I feel like she's better for Ben Sean Sexton, though, what do I know? Also, it's great for our punning because we really miss saying that she is where shook, you know, because shook us is back greens shuck, you know. No, yeah. Okay. What's next? Well, I'm about to slam denial limited. I love this headline. Harry Hamlin lease arena, slam Nicolette Sheridan denial. She cheated story is ages old, and we are still talking about it like when did this alleged cheating happened in the eighties. Right and the area's really funny. It's that like, Michael, it's it's a Harry ham. Harry Hamlin and nNcholas Sheridan. Married and nNcholas shirted went to Michael Bolton concert and never came home. And it's all areas story like she literally was like swept off her feet by Michael Bolton and Michael Bolton. It's like it's like the really A-List easy. And like, even though it's about heterosexual people like queer version of he went to a Michael like he went out for cigarettes and never came home. It's true. And like, so basically what happened was on the real housewives like premier or the second episode. I don't know. I'm like, I'm definitely watching it. But like I don't remember Lisa venom made a joke that like thanks to Nicolette Sheridan. She has Harry like she was making a joke. She was like, oh, well thank God like lick the, blah, blah, blah, like because that's how I got my hairy. You know, it's thick God, blah, blah, blah, literally was kind of she kind of retold the story to like, Denise Richards. I think because I think like went to these Richard showed up they're all like fake introducing themselves in this weird way. Whatever my point is then Twitter, then like they all got on Twitter. And we're like yelling at each other nickel was like I did not and Lisa. Like you. Sure did like I don't have the tweets in front of me, and you don't have a link here. But like they were all screaming at each other. I mean slash tweeting each other, and it's hilarious because it's like the funniest story that no one agrees on it's like well digital hook up with Michael Bolton after the concert or did you not? And then where does Michael Bolton come in? Well, Michael Bolton. Okay. So. Nicolette went to the Michael Bolton concert while Harry was still up at our place in Canada, which is now our place, but it was his place and she came home early. She went to the Michael concert, and then she never came home. Oh my God. She loves Michael Bolton. So she basically left Harry Hamlin for Michael Bolton. Oh my God. And I say thank you always to Michael Bolton. And I say thank you Michael Bolton because without Michael Bolton. I would not have these beautiful children. I would not have my husband. And I always say thank you Michael Bolton. I went up to him at the polo a couple years ago, and I knelt on my knees. And I said Michael after thank you for my life. You know, what this genius? You know, what he said what you're welcome. It's it's they've been holding this for way too long. And this has the right? This news has no this this still making headlines twenty nineteen but it keeps happening and that headline is duration. Harry hamlin. Lease arena slammed Nikola shirt denial. She cheat with Fulton. And then you click it, and it's just like eight tweets embedded in a story. It's like how. This the happening. Lisa renna. I mean, we talked about how I mean. I just talked about how I don't think Kris Jenner how I think Kris Jenner gets too much credit. I think Lisa rent. It doesn't get enough. Lisa Renna is out here, like really manipulating really manipulating Twitter like Christian or wishes. Chris doesn't tweet really need to. But lisa. No. She has to tweet yet. Lisa is good. Let's just like this only just rates on these tweets because they really are that good hearing Hamlin so nigga Sharon tweeted, a fake news or something. She tweeted fake news. I dunno whatever. And then hairy tweeted re fake news. What's it called when your wife of one year suddenly goes to bed with pop singer two weeks after your mother dies? I did a lot of stuff with my wife nose to nose, but ending our marriage was not one of them. And at least a repeated in wrote sweetie Nikolett at nicollet at I am Nicolette. You're the gift that keeps on giving their thanking her like jokingly, and then she return. Tweeted haring wrote do you really want the truth shared? I appreciate that. You wanna support your housewives fake news narrative, but the end of our marriage had nothing to do with anyone other than us sad. You can't own your part. I mean, I think what Niklas kind of implying there. They had a bad relationship. Anyways. Like, that's why this all kind of tumbled which can be true at the same time. It is true that she hooked up with Michael Bolton Michael Bolton concert. You know what I mean? Likes Hollywood bowl too. That's fun. She's like thank you Michael Bolton. Also wanna thank Michael Bolton. I always want to what is it? It's gone silent. Silence. Like who's talking about me can't hear it's gone silent? Good Instagram, Kylie, Larry with you live Crump's island. Crump silent. Let's talk about Lausanne we cut it out of the podcast and put it on the Pattaya on. And it is sort of interesting just because it was we were so obsessed with little and then he starts dating this. He leaves Noah Cyrus starts dating a woman named AMI Smith, which is the most boring name I've ever heard my whole life. It was like the the the the visual effects people for I man, and he thanked his two children, John. And James, and I was like, that's what you named your boys come on just like very boring. Very boring names. Anne Smith is allegedly like five weeks pregnant with little baby, and she's trying to become like a YouTube influence or because of it. We were sort of bored by them until record scratch yesterday. Hold onto your butts allegations have arisen that little an anti Smith. Little miss boring, anti Smith are faking the pregnancy and the proof that was found is the funniest proof and most convincing proof I've ever seen that someone is faking pregnancy and of the clip of Lille's Lausanne. Showing the ultrasound of the baby of these people found it's so good. These people found that exact ultrasound in a really quick Google search of like ultrasound nine weeks insane. It's like it's literally the foot like it is the photo like these sort of irregularities on weird splotches. I don't think our that. That's no way coincidental. So I believe that immediately. Yes. Believe it that is a fake ultrasound. The baby is fake. I don't believe for one second that she is. There's a few things that could be happening here. Right. Maybe she's faking it, and he doesn't maybe they're both faking it so like press, but I gotta say as somebody who thought to KOTA Johnson was pregnant seven years ago and turns out not pregnant you don't have a baby nine months later. Guess you're not pregnant. Remember when we thought to go to John Lewis pregnant, we were like nine months bitch. And like what she's not fragment God. But even this Tra sound the the little green dot that's in it. It's all the same. It's Google only find a last the last option I had. So there's there was too. But there's one more is that she printed these out just to have something to show, which doesn't make any sense. But sometimes you need a visual. You get a visual fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's re-. It's really really fun. You know? And also people think that little Anna Noah Cyrus relationship was fake because they were set up by me, we're like kind of also suspicious of. But so there are a lot of things going on. You know, you really can't deny showing a photo you googled, that's we gotta like we gotta get over that people keep doing that. Don't you know that people can do that? Also, you are not the only one with Google. No, no version of this is better than which is not even the exact same. But my favorite version of like posting a photo that you obviously just googled and didn't just have on your phone is me Farrow and her black children. Oh, that's my favorite one. Can you tell can you explain that? Me affair wish. Happy birthday to one of her daughters. And the photo that she put on Instagram was a screen, grab of a safari like us mobile safari page that had like the photo for child on it. But you could still see the key words in the small letters where she had searched and the search query was Mia Farrow and her black children, which she would she explained away and said like, oh that was a screen shot. I got from my friend who said how my. Played to my search fairly. You're still search me of Erna back children. Never when I don't believe it number two, Mia Farrow, and her black children is exactly the sort of like wild and specific language old people use on Google, they just speak into it fairly plant. Oh my God. It's so funny. So I'm calling. I'm calling me affair under black children on this pregnancy scandal. You're calling me. Affirmative like children that you're calling the scandal. You're saying the Meryl Streep museum my hands him out me black blackjack God that was from the Oscars raid. Yeah. Like two years ago may have. That's what I'm calling here. All right. So you're calling this pregnancy fake you're saying fake. Finally, this has something to do with us. I feel like I'm so glad we didn't actually put. I mean, all the patriots. You got to hear us talk about this for the first time. But now, we're like, you know, what we found something that's truly relevant to who we leave which is this fake Asil or sound fixing fishing pregnancy with Google I love it. Let's do REBA. But she wary where was she seen? She posted. Why on Graham, she's the who clean ten? Onto. The the. What's Rita ORA up to who is this woman? This is there's not much Rita this. Although I didn't look today. There's really not much to this week the Oscar sort of out did it. But there is she was she was at the Vanity Fair Oscar party number one. She looked great. I will say that. Goss- share it. A what? Says teed bid to share who cares tidbit from Oscar party when I left Mick Jagger was hitting on Rita ORA. Oh, that's the via via that's like a passed on little gos- for us. I'm not surprised at all. Are you kidding? That's perf. She looked. She looked great. She was an Shannon McQueen excuse me huddle. But show him, but showing? Well, she was like a sort of a shift some nut. She had some bite. Look great. But my favorite story is about read or my favorite servant read. Or is this headline Rita ORA still does chores. And where do I see the story and the website and the Idaho county free press, which is I'd Aho Idaho's oldest weekly newspaper even there on the Rita ORA beat. Well, here's what I'm going to say to slightly DeMarcus a little bit. I think this might be like a rerun piece because I just searched Rita ORA chores and also showed up on the post bulletin, a Kate Minnesota's newspaper association's two thousand nineteen daily newspaper of the year, which could be a fake newspaper. And I think they're all taking it. I think they're all like aggregating it from this other website because it says so it says of VERA VERA or redes- mom told Hello magazine. Like, she didn't interview with Hello magazine. And these are all like being taken from that. But it's the same. And they were like, she cleans the kitchen everyone. No. But she says blitz. Incredible to take out Rita ORA. Does chores from that? So then we have wheat search Rita ORA. Still does chores. It was posted on Idaho county free pest free press WD E, L dot com. The courier express dot com. ABC FOX Mentana dot com. Sedalia democrat daily local dot com in Fernie dot com. Kokomo perspective dot com index journal. So basically like the these fake slash real news sites. Aggregated this Rita ORA. Does chores story. And now it's everywhere which is legendary on this lane. It is that's great anyways. Rida or does chores. What else did she do aside from shores stole the spotlight? She stole the spotlight and normal at just the enormous headline really makes me laugh referring to her clothes as enormous is hysterical to me Rita, ORA steals. The spotlight in enormous ruffled romper which was good because she. It was just a normal romper. Right. And looked like. The shorts on whatever. But then there was just enormous. And that's the opposite of a romper robbers are small they're small all of your fashion. Take this robber was big. Offer should be small what else about Reto. Or are we done with her? Mean forever? No, we'll never be done with her. No, we are done with Rita. She unfortunately was not at the Oscars. But she definitely went to all the parties. If you have any of that Rita gos- from the parties other than that, Mick Jagger was hitting on her please call the hot line that is rita's sweet spot the party's not at the ceremony. But at all of the parties forest like she's gonna miss some good ass. Parties. Are you getting? Not. So thank you to everyone for listening. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter weekly come to our tour. We're going to Minneapolis Milwaukee and Cleveland this weekend Chicago in Detroit in next weekend. Minneapolis better show up. I'm going to be so pissed. Yeah. And we will see you on Friday with another episode of who's there? Six nine who them calls with questions comments and Rita ORA sightings? And we'll see that by you. They wanted. No. Pain. How'd you listen it?

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LCB Ep. 146 - Avengers: Endgame Reaction (NO SPOILERS), New James Bond News, Grossest Frozen Meals You've Eaten and Curse of La Llorona Review

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LCB Ep. 146 - Avengers: Endgame Reaction (NO SPOILERS), New James Bond News, Grossest Frozen Meals You've Eaten and Curse of La Llorona Review

"Finnerty? And beyond. We're in the hang gain. From the whites came aboard episode one forty six Jeff blow Ken, Jack, trill ball and vista vendors leap here on like camera barstool and around the world ventures is coming out today. This is going to drop. Well, it's still likely drop after midnight. I can say is happy vendors day vendors and game finally here. Thank the excitement has hit. Its peak. Ken jackson. I have seen it. But what do you think? True. No is going to say you guys are seen it. I don't want to spoil the review don't want you guys to say too much. But I want to put words in your mouth either. But you guys loved it. He loved it. That's correct. Yet. It can you gave it a a whopping ninety eight big score damn big time score. I think know, we're gonna land on it. I feel like it's going to be closer to you. Jeff, maybe maybe I've ninety three tight with Infinity war. I think they're they're they're one movie. That's just they're really just one movie. I am excited to watch these back to back for the first time like just a long rainy day or snowy day. Watch him back to back ninety three tied for third. Best compliment movie ever seen seventy eight out of a hundred on metacritic, which is pretty fucking good on metacritic. I think that's the second highest marvel movie and then rotten tomatoes two hundred reviews set a ninety seven percent, which is tied of Black Panther priced approval rating for a marvel which is insane are the usual suspects down on. Ooh, Richard Brody hate it. I don't do. I don't know. I don't know, Jim. Let me see if he didn't check so member he did his captain marvel review weeks after the fact vendors and game, Richard Brodie. I feel like he hates it. I mean now he could reason. Now, he hasn't. He hasn't reviewed it yet only his. His Infinity war want us up. The latest marvel movie is a two and a half hour ad for all the previous marvel movies. Okay. The lace mobile movie is called in game. Folks. I couldn't wait for this game to end. Job dick. Doesn't seven blog hit the jump to read more. Richard Brody of join the Atlantic after the jump. I miss after the jump could add the jump after the junk what what did ads on the internet used to be? I don't even remember porn probably. Yeah. Porn, but yet massive reviews, some positive views, even from them, some some people who don't think it's amazing like here's one in earnest, overstuffed, fitfully funny superhero melodrama and game hits the buttons wants to hit and sometimes a meeting -ly. So even people who are totally in on these all the time or still enjoying it. And and see for what it is. I don't want to say too much. It's definitely the more emotional movie than Infinity war. It's it's long. But it doesn't feel along. I've been this everyone though, the P break is the big advice. Do you wanna pee going the first hour, even then you're risking missing something important? But after you're an hour in if you get up and leave I mean at that point, you're missing something. That you'll be bummed. You missed ad say the first hour after like the twenty minute. Mark is like that's the sweet spot. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good pick. Yeah. Did did Jeff have to p? Oh, yes. That UP twice before the movie started drillers get it once. Yeah. Right before himself. Self. And then I went again really quickly it worked out. Well, I actually on the bathroom the second time. And there was a guy with his hand up on the wall like straddling the urinal, and he was going. Gotta get the venom. Oh shit out to that guy. So we haven't I'm excited for it. Because it will finally replace game of thrones says the NBA finals Meemaw of choice. So instead of like photo shopping the night king in for Dame Lillard, it'll be Hawkeye. Yeah. That face when you hit that shot in just like Jeremy Renner the blazers uniform instead of having brand photo show just Photoshop Dover. Daimler? Yeah. So we didn't see it with fans we saw it with critic slash fans. So we got a good experience. People were going nuts. If you don't want sharing and shit do not go putting weekend, and you know, it adds to it it I'm fine with it for this. It truly adds the experience to motion fucking cried coli walked into the office red in the face people were like holy shit. Or you just think I clocked in I think at least four and all forward, they're very heart wrenching moments in that foam. And it is they really get you. And there's a lot of gates of motion they run through like, you don't know. Whether you're supposed to be laughing or crying are being angry or being like having your heart rate through fuck. You just don't know how to react. And that's the movie, but we'll talk about it. More after the jump. Yeah. You feel like a chapter in your life has been closed. Oh, yeah. So getting sentimental because you feel like this this cast of the ventures as seeing you through the last ten years of your life. You basically become an adult eleven dude. I was fifteen when the first one came out, it's wild. Yeah. There's there's a cut like, I I'm not gonna talk about if there's a couple of things that that spark reactions for a reason and a lot of it just beginning. This isn't even a spoiler beginning to end almost everything that happens is just like it is closing chapter. If you love these movies and connected to them in enjoyed them over the years. So I feel the way about three zero three when I hear their music. Do I think back to those sentimental nights in two thousand nine listening to my first kiss with with cash? By the way, Taylor coming out on Thursday, very excited to hear your thoughts on on Sydney's. I don't know her saw whatever she comes out with our next pot on Monday. Actually, we want your thoughts. There will be a segment where you give your thoughts. I'm I think it's a music video and you made fun of me today because I was I was worried her newest is biting Casey most graves, quite hard. You know, I don't think anyone who's making LL major rip off. I thought you're making fun of me. 'cause they were like pictures weren't all that similar. Very similar. Pastel Instagram e filter type thing it's like an anthropology type vibe. Yeah, I wasn't saying that you ripped us off saying that she ripped up, and it's it's very similar. You're right. So we'll see what she throws out there. We'll get your full review. We just two things. We just tweeted out. Actually, it's live now on our Twitter. It'll be on YouTube and embar sports dot com. A ten minute recap of all twenty one marvel movies crammed it in talked really fast Kenji Robbie helped me write the script very hard to recap those movies and under ten minutes. Just got it in under the wire clocks in nine fifty nine the whole video. I think the recap ends at like nine fifty six. So go watch that if you want to refresh her if you wanna watch movies for you, see it, I'd suggest to this point almost everything. So, you know, go watch the old ones if you want maybe watched Vinnie war, but you really can't consume enough before you go in and see this so excited for that. And on Thursday night, April twenty fifth nine fifteen pm. Check the lights camera barstool podcast feet. That's all we're going to say now nine fifteen pm check that feed. Unless you're in the movie don't do that. We got something for the hugs. Don't we? Yes, we do very excited about it. Do what fuck in pig. Have you have you ever seen a pig in your life? Make that noise and screech of pig from the best pro shop here, man. Yeah. Pick come down to the Kentucky state fair. Yes, you'll get your ass kicked me by the need me by Kentucky kingdom. Do you have a prize winning? Do you have a prize winning hog? Yeah. That's names old Gus. Weighs about six hundred twenty five pounds. Trolls hog won the prize sharpest, hog. Wettest in show this here, this here's old goodness. All don't like being stirred it too much. But I'll tell you what don't go down wind this anger filler, sir. This is a blue ribbon pig. Award winner at here, Charlotte. We are going to be reviewing vendors endgame are are normal review next week with James, Mr. Sunday movies. I think we're going to be doing top ten or five. I wanna make him. Do a comic thing every time. He comes on. We're gonna do top ten moving letdowns. This movie is not going to be a letdown. But like in terms of hype like I feel like it'd be fun to talk about movies. A let you down. So we'll do that. Or did you audience questions today? We're also reviewing pet cemetery in the cursive law your own ah in one of them. Just absolute. Awful awful time watching it very excited to talk about that. But I gotta get into a quick Eddery big trailer to trailer for movie that tro bowl and said he was excited to see this year finally came out. We'll get we'll get to that in a second. But first up this episode brought to you in part by seek. We have the seek app on our phone. And it's by far the easiest way we've found to chef for tickets, you can be anywhere with just a few taps, find seats. We just use seek actually all three of us. We're going to see pink at a referee in Lexington Kentucky which William Michael's. Isn't that right guys? I'm so excited instilling to book my flights. I like, Julia Michaels. Issues. Didn't brush him a need you? Fig impression now Ekambo Gusset. Hogue? Gust the spinoff care to Gabe or babe. Excuse me. Are you looking in a little is cloudy? Ios. The milky est is just a blind. Oh. Seeks as you time and money by searching, multiple ticket sites to compare prices and find amazing deals and to get you. 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Now, I'm going Gemini, Jimmy man, an elite assassin becomes a target of mysterious young operative who can seemingly predict his every move a Will Smith Mary Elizabeth Winstead Benedict Wong, Clive Owen trill. Let you go first you had this on your most anticipated movie list for twenty nineteen. I still like it. Maybe wouldn't put it on my list again. Thank you get a do over. I saw angrily thought we'll Smith we're going to get together. And we get some really cool. I think this still has the opportunity to be cool. But I just wasn't too excited by the trailer. I liked the DA Will Smith. I thought that was really freaky. It was very startling. It has serious Looper vibes to it with their whole concept of the younger and older self even though this one's clone. Blooper was time travel. I liked it. I wasn't in love with it. I'm very neutral very down the middle. You know what I'm saying? It's basically the born Looper or like, what do you call it? You're seeing that movie. I think it's just called soldier or something with Kurt. Russell. You don't talking about where he's a version of a soldier and the like he gets outdated in the make a new version of soldiers. And they send the old the new soldiers to kill the old soldier. I don't think I ever saw that. But now I wanna see that it was bad ass movie. He gets stranded on a trash planet like basically car except. It's not cool because there's no Jeff Goldblum. But yeah, no. It was pretty good movie. And I think that's what this looks like to me. I'm not I don't know. I think they're aging process whatever they used. It looks good like we'll we'll Smith those look super young in the D H version of himself, but I'm not overly interested in this concept based of what was presented in that trailer. The the trailer was. The just visually not very stimulating know aside from the big de Will Smith, which that was if a trailer has a water cooler moment that was the water cooler moment of this trailer. That's the one everybody. How how many water coolers nationwide had talked about this trailer one to hey, did you go see Jimmy, man? No, do but I was down at the Kentucky state fair old gun so good. Now, you go down old goods up till you would. This Hong he stinks. Something fierce. If you go grab me Fredo walk and walk in taco Ola scoop book old gusts doodoo with this pitch for here. Oh my God. Oh, gust the news character skin. But it just like aside from that. There wasn't anything. I kind of looked like I like dark. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't vibrant. And maybe that's definitely what they're going for. But it didn't really do it for me. Let me know if I'm crazier. Did it look like some of the shit was just on green screen like some seems completely on green screens like visually like visual effects? It looked really bad. I think the aging Smith could. But the actual scenery. You're right. I totally agree. Looked like green screen, especially the motorcycle, whatever chase thing. Like, very clearly not a real motorcycle. At all. Like, I'm not sure what that was. But that does the trash and there was one scene where they were like the sky in the background like a blue sky like nice day. It just looks fake eight maybe the whole budget went to Will Smith because we'll the young Will Smith looks great. But everything else kind of looks like off just off they still they still have a lot of time though. This comes out. Over eleventh. So they could tweak it to be fair to it. I think mostly just the way the movie looked terms of what was presented to me in the trailer and the visual appeal of it. It just was not hitting for me. I I agree with you. I don't I think that the actual cast was that great. I love love Benedict, Juan Mary lou's with Winston. I can't decide if I like her or not like I can't figure it out like how I feel about her vibe that makes sense same here on the fence. Nice person. I did like her a lot in Fargo. But I don't think I've seen anything else that have genuinely liked her in final. God's will move on from Jimmy man, or Gemini, I mean, that's fucking I band blue our world up there with that word that we never use final Godzilla trailer came out. They had an extended preview during game of thrones. Oh, you just play the video. You're my voice on on other still feedback. Yeah. Final villa trailer. They released a short version. I thought there was going to be the full five minute on next preview. That was a bit of a bummer 'cause I wanna see that again in HD. But the final gut Zillow trailer came out look still great like I mean, I this one nearly as much as the other ones. I yeah. I think it's tough to follow it up though. The other two were so great, and the I Mex thing was unbelievable. But I mean, that's still I'm still excited for it. I'm still looking forward toward. So what stands out to me in this trailer is the line between cow Chandler and grabby Whitford when God's will comes out of the water in culture, and the goes my God. And then Bradley Whitford goes Zillah. Like fuck you. That's terrible. What a terrible fucking line. He's just playing. He's playing Josh Lyman. That's something. I would make up if you make script right now for fucking God zone. That was terrible line. I didn't like the over the rainbow remix they used in the tro that is reserve. That song is reserved for Israel was a chemical Wola Israel chemical lay. I think that's that's on. You can't use without his permission. He's big rest in peace. Is that the ukulele? Yeah. Version yet, the is good. I'm ready for the movie. I feel like we've seen eight hundred trailers for this as you like that one. I loved it. My God Zillah. Oh, you rascal. I just want to note that a tweet just came out that the new trailer for men in black international is dropping it twelve Pacific time bid nuts. Three AM eastern time. I will fuck then let me I don't understand wait times that times that in Europe though, because this is international. Maybe that's the case. That's just that's crazy. I guess that's the reason. It's international. All right. All right. I'll go with that our world deputy even so normally been trailer dropped twelve thirty a m would a great bit for them. Like, they just do everything. Like. Yeah. This. This movie comes out like you're going to use the metric the metric system for everything. They're going to like, I don't know do euros. I ran out of material on this bit. But you get rose going with it. I do. Yeah. I I do know where you're going. Yeah. So we'll see we'll talk about that one on Sunday. I guess are so final Godzilla trailer coming out soon once again still very excited for that movie. Here's something we didn't expect bond. Twenty-five news coming out tomorrow morning. So that is. April twenty fifth coming out at five AM Pacific time, so eight ten AM eastern time. I guess by the time, you're listening. You're most likely know what it is coming tomorrow the bond twenty five live reveal from an iconic double of seven location asked the cast a question. So you're gonna see cast announcements. The location facility proximity mines. Become now. Don't self deprecating Robbie Malik playing. The villain is has been the rumor for a while. So we'll see we don't I guess, we don't know. What to expect me? Is there something you wanna see with this? Tell me tell me what your fan of bad guy on the fan of, Freddie. Mercury. Fan of my bring Stor. What do you say trickster something of a fan of? I don't know. I don't remember. I just love that video that was that's just as bad guy monologue that was probably screen test. I'm I'm real excited for this one. Because Cary Fukunaga is probably the reason true detective season. One was as good as it was. Indeed, we always talk about the tracking shot gotta love that track shot. But I go back to that. That was a standout moment. I think this movie will get it back on track. Not that like one movie means it was off track. But spector was such a pile of crap after a sky fall. Which is I think it's the best Daniel Craig bond. It's I don't feel like that's a hot take. Would you want yet for the best bond one? It's scarves become Craig one rather. I sky fall casino royale and addicted be close or you could put casino royale over sky fall, depending on what your taste is. And then quantum Solis inspector was last forgive big time last I would flip casino royale, but not by much. Much. I think they're neck and neck for the most part. Jeff love selection. I get Walton the balls chalet. I wanna see that scene down. I want Daniel Craig is JAMES BOND. Obviously in this movie. Just silently roll up in ram his electric Aston Martin to a bad guy. Can't even hear it coming. It's that quiet daunting to be driving miata. They're not allies past him. He's too old. There will be cars in this reveal for sure it's going to be the electric car. That was the big hubbub. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just saying it, we'll see your review of cars. Do you think? And I think it'll be answered this. Do you think that something that's hurt the height for this movie? And once it gets rolling people get excited is that the bond most talked about was the bond after this fund like who's gonna play the next bond. We got so far ahead of ourselves that we didn't even know anything about the actual next bond movie. We were talking about the next one after that which will come out for like five or six years at this point. It definitely heard it. And part of that is because I think specter was so bad that we just I don't know how many people have high hopes for this one. It does seem to fall pattern because it goes. Good bad. Good bad. This'll be good book into the Daniel Craig JAMES BOND collection with two good movies. I just think that that plus specter being bad heard it in. Honestly, I think Daniel Craig's been a great bond. Like, I I'm not a huge bond guy. No, people can rank them all and you have strong opinions on Timothy Dalton in what they feel about him. I pretty much just no Daniel Craig Sean Connery Pierce Brosnan like that's my frame of reference. But I think the owner Craig was a really good bond. I went I liked the direction they went with this. But I think everybody was really interested in new direction and that that's the curse plane JAMES BOND is they just use you up for four or five films. Throw you away. I agree. I think that this. I think Daniel Craig was good gritty reboot of what is usually been throughout basically all. Bond history, except for maybe Sean Connery, like a pretty refined character in that he was cool more grounded little more like authentic. I guess as far as like how we perceive like a bad as to be in. I don't know. I I'm just curious how they go with this, especially with what's his name as villain, which don't you think he's going to be every bond villain sort of falls into the same sort of trope were either they're like some sort of billionaire turned evil genius or ex special forces, your expi- of some sort. So I don't know which one he's going to be. But I'm thinking he's going to be like tech billionaire. It's going to be like a black mirror episode yet if I had to bet now they kind of did that little bit. They touched on. It was like a Steve Jobs Rupert Murdoch combination guy, which one the is one of the bras ones. I think it was was it with Michelle Yeoh o or I I can't remember. But the bad guy he had a news organization. I think he was trying to it's been. Fifteen twenty years since I've seen this. He I think he was trying to manipulate world events too. Make more news money from self. I don't the one where they start North Korea in like they have that guy with the medal in his face. Maybe maybe I'm getting it all mixed up. It wasn't. I'll I'll finish talking. They'll look for it. Because I know it's going to bother us. But I think that Romney Malik is better. If you more of the cerebral bad guy, even though I feel like that's what we've done in all these bond movies. I don't as a main billing because you know, heavier bar dam was a psycho. But he was like a a silent psycho some parts. So it was tomorrow never dies and the media mogul was played by Terence stamp. Can't stamp think. Wait. Let me double check is the guy the villain's name was Elliot Carver as carbon does Jonathan Pryce. Hi Sparrow from game of thrones game of thrones talk for the day, CHAI chance or alarm would've cook. Fucking hate starrewards. If I recall, he should ease forever. Actually, we've told that story how excited he wants to do it and meet Natalie Portman any to get the fucking meter just fill it seems and they wished him away. I'm the weight he got like a watch from George. We told that story. No. I don't think so not the watch one. Let me look that up. I'll tell that story on this pod. Good goal Taryn. Stan. I don't really remember this one. I just remembered the North Korea Brosnan one, Jeff, what do you think? Like, how does how does Malik play this? I cannot see him as anything other than mister robot. Character. I I'll have to see it to understand like, I just cannot. I mean, it's not a knocking him because I do like Rummy Malik. I just I'll have to see. I mean, that's no debts. But that's different than if someone have been like, he's ledger. Joker. Tony junior iron. Tony stark. The granted. I didn't know the fuck Tony stark was and that got announced, but it's one of the things you've kind got to see before you. I have to see it. I really can't think about I think you're on the right track. But I can't think about what I would see like as villain. I wasn't even if it's not him like tabloids are wrong. He's gonna be like that billionaire from veep. Was it wasn't. I mean, Craig or something right? Craig Craig it's Craig and keep correcting over and over again yet he the same guy played that annoying fucking character on the commercials during. Tournament eighteen owns right? Yeah. I think that's what he's going to be. I think Romney Malik name is going to be Damian price. You just combined Jonathan Pryce from the same actor who played that sounds good. That sounds like a sounds like you're either a singer songwriter, or a very successful tech billionaire. What if it's like Burt Michael that one better or whatever his name is old goodness coming around the former again, get good ole double o seven well all bus old boss Hogg about five years ago, JAMES BOND came in and gear road at him to death. Now, a got old goodness. That's the new bond like his number one henchman. He has made it past the first three levels of tower. You must release old Gus just like ram Alex characters a farmer in Nebraska at he just throws throws bond into the hog pit. Yes. And she's wrestling with the six hundred pound hogs Haag wrassling. Like a rose that Bruce Lee movie game of death at the big tower that he has to fight his way through that's like level. Three is is just old Gus in the pig and. It's a seventy minute movie where he just fighting different like just a sequentially bigger and bigger hog. And at the end just the pug firm or the giant pig. That was a was it a cure the fucking? The giant warthog? It's it's Gannon from Zelda hog for. It would can rule if they comes out tomorrow that Romney's villains. Name is Gus that would be. That'd be amazing. Gosh. I had something else. You ever you ever been to Nebraska, Mr. bond? Gus was bores race here all the hundred and thirty seven pounds of him. He's sitting out there baking in the heat while you're there drinking your martinis have myself ninety seven super duty but had to get a new superduty, duly, reinforced axel just hall old. Gus all the way to Louisville Kentucky. This is the best we've ever had a character listeners. They're gonna hate the shits. I don't know how Gus gonna play not gonna play. Well, it's it's nineties episode parts to old Gus might not play. We'll see we'll Gus except. So brought to you impart by old. Trump's how do you guys save Lincoln linked in Lincoln? Link lincoln. Sounds like saying the same not. What do you all like to connect with? Goes to endorse you for trough eaten just doing the Yoda bit with all gusts. Basically where you're doing. 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With the trio large don't zones. I do this thing where we do. We don't include the kids. I mean, whatever. Drooling? Yeah. Got it on Google. It's on Google. I just search prize hog. Sir. Go to our Twitter. We tweeted it out no context. Just a picture of old Gus. All right. Okay. So anyway, west side story, it's still happening in the Allen horn from Disney commented on the fact that they do smoke in the west side story young people that he said with FOX we could make movies that right now, I say, no to we have we always have to think about the smoking policy the audience for Disney movie may not know what they are going to see. But they know what they aren't going to see there are certain things we just can't glued because we'll get letters. I don't know if that means he can't do it in a Disney movie or he's saying because they own FOX they can do it now. But there is some controversy on that. And then obviously like I said the kings would think is going forward with the two man Stanley Tucci, but there are some things cancelled a temple movie called mouse guard. We know if that is out scarred. What he put in your mouth up yourself and by tongue is it. A red wall is red wall thing mouthguard American bimonthly comic book series written illustrated by David Peterson and pun published by some studio. So it's like a ten poll franchise in. Pied stop like mice coming in your home. I mean, it's just easier. Just fucking is looks like Lord of the rings. Mice sounds like a gaming accessory. Does scrums from getting into your mouse? That's a big temple franchise. They they got rid of that news of the world with Tom Hanks that's gone to universal now. So they got rid of that. And then they got rid of on the come up. I don't know what that is. And then they got rid of fruit. Loops fruit loops is a drama with Woody Harrelson a mental hospital hospital set drama with Woody Harrelson that sounds so fun in cool. New news of the world in the wake of civil war. Captain jefferson. Kyle kid travels through northern Texas yada, yada, yada. That was going to be involved with old Tom Hanks, so those things are canceled. I don't really care about any of them. The it does some are moved over others. Cancel doesn't affecting one. Or the other. I feel like Disney can't come out with zillion movies. So cutting the fat a little bit trim driven the Faust, it would cut the west side story movie. So we definitely don't need. Looking forward to west side story twenty twenty the young girl they cast on the lead role. Incredible. So good heard voices in saying. Yeah. Choose an unknown. Yeah. Or at least popular online. Yeah. I'm excited for it. Just based on that. I guess that's enough to get me somewhat excited mean they they found a person online. And now they're in a big big movie. It's pretty crazy. But yeah, the rest kind of go between it because like while. None of the movies, really excite me. It just kind of sucked at like, maybe they're less movies, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's true. And that that's not a great thing. And that's part of the that's part of the problem that people have with the merger. But also at the same time, I'm gonna sit back and wait to see what they do on the company young adult. Novel two dozen nineteen young adult novel. It is setting the same fiction universe as the hate. You get. That's right. That's right. But hey, you give us a lot of money. So that's partly. Why dizzy really low money a marketing budget was like thirty million dollars something like that? Twenty. So I agree that is not great. But let's see how they repurpose. Hopefully, they do take advantage of the studios and come out with some original stuff. I'll they released their tent poles in their conflicts in their Star Wars, which we all gobble up like Pogues. Yes. So yeah. That's that's that on Disney. That's a relevant news topic. We had. I refrained from going into it. Yeah. Let's give it some time to fester for a little bit. It's gonna breathe it's gonna breathe until the audience questions. Yeah. I don't know. I don't I don't care. Too much many of these properties. Though, I am in the camp of troll. And that I think this what's that story is going to be good. And like, you said that that singer's voice that whatever that Instagram that she posted for senior good Lord. He officer Krupp k again agree that might be the closing song. I do great song is great song. I think it's better than Maria. Personally. It's my favorite one from there Maria. Me of west side story. Oscars some news Netflix movies, still eligible, none of that shit. Got changed at Saul. It's gone. That's that's over with for now at the animated feature category theatrical release of eight eligible animated features the counter years no longer require the awards to be activated. What the fuck that means the foreign language film category. Name has been changed to international feature film. However, it still has the same rules as before. Meaning that this doesn't mean like British movies can be not related. It's still foreign languages changed. The name of it kind of just weird move. But whatever in the makeup hairstyling category. The number of nominated films increase from three to five that that makes sense. I never quite understood. What was only three in the short film categories. Animated live action short. Now have the option to qualify theatrically, either the city of New York or less Angeles counted to be eligible for submission. So I guess that means we could try to submit something which will do a small movie get small changes nothing big which is good. You didn't have to worry about the whole Netflix shit detective Pika chew I stuff coming out for detective Pika chew. And folks people love it can very excited. We've already talked about Ventura where are you at with the peak at US, not being Pika Chugai? I'm very excited. I love it. I love this little peek at you, dude. And the combination of Ryan Reynolds voice works too. Well, with friend of the pod, Ryan Reynolds he'd likes you tweets. And that's that's really cool. It's just it works. Really? Well, and you probably can go back and listen to old episodes where we're cracking up shitting on this idea. How ridiculous it is. I'm the I'm the first one will sit all man up sat was wrong, and I'm super excited for it. Well, like that's on us. Right. So when the idea comes out, and it sounds so ridiculous. They have to. Effect people to kinda react the way they reacted. It's on them. The onus is on them to prove us wrong at that point in when they start off with the concept that ridiculous. That's fair. I think it also that news somewhat coming out the same time as the whole peak at you saying I love you in the animated movie true. Was it was just weird. It felt weird. Like that was the voice we're gonna get, but, you know, Pika chew this tiny little rat creature sounding like of of fully grown middle aged man is that's fucking funny. It is very funny. Other look good too. I mean, the whole voicing was perfect. And I never we talked about Backman daylight. Chris Pratt the rock. I mean, it's perfect. Ryan Reynolds, their views are glowing people say it's jam packed action will make you wish you live in the world of polka music poke them. Unbelievable. Some moments will have you shocked fans of poke him on will be amped. I'm very excited. I mean, I was I'm not a Pokemon fan. Like a used to be. But I love the growing up loved the TV show TV show. Fuck at ruled first movie was awesome. So I mean, just seeing that their views are great is is very, it's awesome. I n game excited with this movie. But this is top five probably rest of the year for me. I wonder how well do internationally. I think it's in a kill to the AC washer gonna kill overseas. I would imagine I would assume so, but you know, I don't know. It's it's a very American concept age is going to watch the shit out of this not Pokemon, but just like the whole like Noir detective vibe what the detective hat. You haven't daily attractive part of the movie is that it's Pokemon. Not that it's a new work. That's true. I don't know. He just may be gotta be careful at the peak. It's you character. Like, you know, an anime like a lot of the male leads will have an English dub voice. That's very masculine. And then the Japanese dub oyster will be a a woman voice in the role. Yeah. That's fair. I think that Ryan Reynolds is someone that has a ton of goodwill both thought sent overseas as far as I'm aware of international movie. So I think that he'll get a little bit of leeway there. They did a big tore in Asia too. I know and obviously poke him on originates in Asia. So I assume there which is the most important market for that. It will make shitload of money next up. Lionsgate's chaos walking. Starring Tom Holland. Daisy. Ridley was deemed unreleased Sibal before re-shoots unreleased -able like this can't leave. Our desks, basically. That's just not even not even a Netflix dump like this can't go. This can't go to anybody. This can't go to your brother your neighbor like this needs to stay here. But they did re-shoots. We'll see I don't know too much about this movie hundred million dollar movie, which is insane. It's insane. Damn, okay. Here's the premise in the near future. Todd. Hewlett has been brought up to believe that a viral jerem is killed all women in a colony world in unleash noise. The special -bility to hear people's in animals minds. So then I guess he meets up with a mysterious woman who I'm assuming his daisy released character in on the run. They learn more about the true history of the new world, which I guess I can kind of get that. When you have a Sifi scifis real hard to do what what was the Valerian you bolero in. Marion like you really like that Jeff. It was a cool concept, but just the execution. I thought was really awkward at times leaving the had a cool concept. It like really wasn't all that great of a movie to me, it just it's just tough something that can make a good book. Which is what's impressive annihilation was as good as it was can I clear the good movie naked get that vision. Onscreen? So I could see how they scrapped this. The weird thing is this is Doug linemen joint. Right. And Doug, lemon has kind of a weird history in that like swingers is awesome. Obviously edgy tomorrow was a really good scifi at tation. I think that was based off of a Booker graphic novels. Well, Merman making that up. I'm not sure the might not be a Mr Smith is good. But then like jumper like you. Barely qualify jumpers as movie at some points. So each kind of weird checkered history, and you know, what he was involved with pretty decent monetize gambit. Oh, I did not know that oh as it. So this is all coming full circle back to gambit as to why this movie has been development hell, forever this. The Doug lime in joint doesn't I mean, come on the pod? Like, you did make some very good movies. But I wanted to figure out we're going on. Produced produced produce the other ones too. I would imagine if he did the first one. Yeah. Trying to make this movie for awhile. It's coming out in twenty twenty now. Oh, so they're they're still trying to make it work. They just can't really say right now. Yeah, they're trying to do the research or whatever just like they did with new mutants, which I'm sure great. I just assume they scrapped entirely now. They're on the reshoot life right now. Yeah. Tom hall and is playing Todd. Tom doesn't look like a Todd. Stepdad name. Good. A real dad Todd who you know, what in that movie. Former Nebraska that in that movie, the soldier will Kurt Russell. I think his name was Todd Todd one one seven or something like us fucking master chief. I'm looking at this movie. Todd Todd one seven has been given eight ounces of monster energy, see how he reacts. Yeah. Once soldier shit Todd with two DS to DS. That's a great Todd. We. We start shit. Todd three seven six five toes. Search on amazing sergeant thirty four sixty five. Was that online surgeon Todd? Jason ISAACs and Connie Nielsen shit sturgeon Todd three four six five. Do you hear me? This is major chip four eight one. The troll to saw. I reactions to Gus people saying the picture of gusts on our Twitter cannot wait for the context. Also, someone said I don't know how to feel about this. People don't like old Gus. Just go you go to the vending stand, and you go get yourself a frozen lemonade and come feed it to old Gus. He he likes chicks mix. Oh, good isn't very friendly. When you're eating up photo cake in front of him. Some of your oldest can get quiet owner if you don't feed them some of that phone. Okay. So Tom take all and put him into sling. And I just I just cradled him like a baby. He's seven hundred pounds. He does cross you. Oh, you made think he's a female at first because of his elongated nipples. The do not be confused olga's is a hog full, man. Elongated nipples at thought here. Podcast. Vaughn. You can get Gus to this on Adam McKay, Adam McKay Showtime drama about the drama Showtime about the Los Angeles Lakers, the nineteen eighties LA Lakers from Adam McCague. It's HBO pilot order that kind of fucking rules. I'm excited for that. Who would you want to cast in this? I think Michael Douglas as Pat Riley. I'd be too old now, he's definitely wold. Now. That's just dies hair. Ron Paul peel spray painted. Yeah. To spray it on look fine. Could've been have. Like, the boat guy, whatever his name is willing to foes. Godspeed spiderman. Magic. How about e wasn't in England the guy plays juror Mormon as Kurt Rambis. The guy from the painting American gothic as Adam silver when he's young. That's a good joke. Fuck you. I don't think I got it. You've seen American gothic the painting. Oh, I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. The famous painting. Finally, somebody will tell the story of the Showtime Lakers. Trump's not into this one. No, I am. But it's like that whole lay generate generation X fixation with sports stuff that happened when they were fourteen. That's true. It's the Bill Simmons sang, and I totally appreciate it. Because when I'm forty eight I'll be talking about a, you know, the more McGuire. Sammy Sosa homerun chase. And how is the greatest thing that ever happened? You're that's crazy is a Berlin beer east. Hit people. Is that nuts? We what is our story going to be like our generation like when Adam McKay sun makes a fuck and HBO series. What is the biggest sports story of our lifetimes? It's a really good question when Warren Sapp got caught with those prostitutes. That's it. That's the one. I'm trying to think because I can think of some big upsets, but I don't know like this is like a dynasty. You could do like the patriots. But I don't think the patriots are as interesting or not as the optical Showtime Lakers. The whole point is that they're so flashy like the aren't methodical winners. It's a tract of because it's a mix of the excess of the eighties combined with the excess of Los Angeles in the eighties with success on the basketball court. So like, I get that story, and I'm trying to I'm trying to think of something like equally as fascinating that has happened in my lifetime. Like, the the warriors would be that team. I guess now. But because they are just incredible dynasty of players. But like, it's also just not as interesting, I guess, I don't know. Why I can't explain it. I do remember the bulls being really fun to like you can't really pay attention to team that much back in the day. All you got was ESPN. But like they used to you know, that year the what they go eighty two and whatever. They used to go out and get fucking drunk every night and show up hung over for the games. Maybe something on biogenesis or like the Boston breaking the curse. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the. That just reminds me of Chris on Netflix. That the one where the wall on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He started off with the trying to dope himself to see how he doesn't amateur bike racing essentially uncovered the Russian doping scandal. Yeah. Jeff can be thought of any sporting moments or we just big nerds. Who can't talk sports? I just I don't know which will be interesting because I feel like we've seen the thirty for thirty covered. Some interesting stuff that you wouldn't think of some shirts, something we haven't haven't thought of rice, something we have we have right? It's not an obvious one that I think would make a good one. It would be something. Controversial. But not to contract you don't like hokey and just over the top. Damn. Yeah. I'm even just trying to think of like like, you're saying big. Like, even something like, Lance Armstrong like was in a sport. Where like while. It was a big deal. It's like nobody lost much. Didn't lose sleep over it cycling world. That's what I was thinking. Like, the baseball thing has been against really big even though I personally I don't to giant connection with baseball. Like, you couldn't really walk five feet without hearing something about the steroid use in that will start at a break. Yet in the thing about the like Sosa McGwire like while that might sound like it makes a good movie. It's also like records been broken. And I think about this, right? Like if you were to make a movie about that you could have the first half of it about the actual like home run like the the race. And then the second half of it about the fallout afterwards. Kevin Costner's gotta be involved in this though. Yeah. Somehow, I don't know. This is right up the cost. God's alley. Pam trying to think spore declared Jose can sake. Sports thing that would make sense. That's tough. Some like, it's a moneyball type thing is what I wanna see we're getting off like. No, not really kind of the same thing. But yeah, I I want to see something like moneyball center. Several little off the beaten path that is really interesting. You get really dive into details in even something. That's like a great story or what I consider to be a great story. Terms of just being interesting. The the ark of Tiger Woods in his life and career. I don't know if that make a great movie. No, I think I think they would it would be over-dramatize two point where it would just be obnoxious, it'd be over-dramatized in like not only like overly sappy. But like the downfall would basically be like him cackling while driving hundred thirty miles an hour. Speakerphone off the rails. Tiger. Grip. I don't wanna see I don't wanna see a story that's like an overly happy ending. Like we see with a lot of Kevin Costner ones. Because I. I that's not good to me anymore. It's too courts to cheesy were moneyball like. Yeah. Moneyball? It's kind of it gets tacky time. But not really like they still lose. It's still a little gritty with some things. It's you know, it's dark at times. It's not like overly too happy. That's that's again. That's a type of thing. I do wanna see maybe this steroids. I don't know. But then again concussion was a piece of shit movie. And that was over something dark, so well, I think the Showtime Lakers like I- I- Adam occa- doing this is good because I trust his ability to make it interesting. Not that it isn't interesting. But like a movie on the Showtime Lakers could go either way a series is what it's going to be a series. Sorry. Go either a movie chopped up. Yeah. The less involvement that the actual like Lakers have on it. The better will probably be. True. Okay. That's that for news. Let's get into a reviews. I'm sure we won't spend too much time Walton Goggin complete Larry Bird. Like that. I guess is and long enough. It's very bulbous. He's gotta get face. In Wong gator. It's acting baby. How about a series of a series like a mock you memory of the making of Space Jam? That'd be funny. You're actually just some some twenty three year old guy wearing a no fear shirt editing. Michael Jordan clicks on a green screen in delight. Bugs Bunny cartoons that are coming back from a animation shop overseas. I've just thinking of like, I thought you meant the original Space Jam in just imagining like a camera crew with Michael as he goes to like Muggsy Bogues has he's a gay. You're going to be in this movie. And he's like, no, thank you. And he's like, no like, you're gonna be in this movie and Muggsy Bogues are just like, yes, sir. Sir. Yes. Anything for you? Michael Jordan makes the cameraman drink gasoline. Because it's Michael Jordan. Gonna do. It's like. All right. Let's started out our reviews. Spoiler reviews. I mean, come on, you know, if course, it is all right curse of lot Yoruba in the nineteen seventies, Los Angeles, the legendary ghost lawyer Rona is stalking. The night in the children ignoring the Erie warning of troubled mother, a social worker in her own kids are drawn into a frightening. Supernatural realm their only hope of surviving allow your own as deadly wrath is disillusioned priest who practices mysticism the keep evil at bay. This movie is part of the conjuring universe. The country universe. Of course mentioned this couple of weeks ago features the conjuring the conjuring too, the conjuring three Annabel Endo creation. Annabel comes home coming out later this year, the none. And and don't forget, the cursive lawyer rota the next spin off movie the crooked man, we can't forget about the crooked man all very excited for that bad. Boy. It's me, I'm the crooked. Mayan cannot wait. This movie stars Linda Cartolini, also in vendors and game. Raymond Cruz Patricia Alaska who plays somebody in the movie named Patricia that always fascinates me for some reason. Let's. Onto mehta's. I think if thirty two percent of thinking look people want to hear give metacritic scores. More metacritic has it critics in lo fi if I recall correctly yet that forty one this movie, fucking sucks, man. I despise this movie. It was so boring such a boring movie, I'm giving I actually disliked this more than I dislike the none gave us a twenty one out of a hundred. I really dislike this movie this movie was jump scare that this movie made that none seemed like the none didn't have jump scares. And I don't know. I'm sure there's a possibility the ratio is greater in the none. But this way just stuck out to me the whole just felt like continuous setup for jump scare and got into like the lower little beginning. But I started reading up on the curse allow your own. It's like it's pretty fucked up mythology, and like it's through Mexican culture. I believe it's just not it just doesn't it doesn't work. It's not interesting doesn't draw me in. And again, the whole thing. Just feels like a cheap way to get people to jump out of their seats a little bit except it doesn't because it's not scary. Just not a scary movie whatsoever. Cursive law your own twenty one out of a hundred. I don't like these spinoffs the conjuring movies are are pretty decent. This just feel so out of place. Like, I get into the universe. I I don't like not a fan did not like this movie. What so ever? Yeah. Be interested here Kim. Jax thoughts on this one. I'll go to second. But I just have to go to the bathroom, so truly you could take it away. I actually Jeff I did not watch this movie. Did not see it. I didn't watch it. Jeff sorry. I'm sorry. Qintex out though, I'm back from the bed. I just told Jeff I didn't watch the movie you didn't watch it. No. How could you cannot watch the curse of Rona? What you think it's the conjuring universe? I think it's I kept thinking the whole time about it. Like, the my euro, mice to run a joke didn't think data that. David. Four would have made a skit for Mike conveniently got so fucking excited about my Sharoni, unplug. This Mike so Ken, Jack. I do want to recall something with the none. Because I forgot you actually gave the none a decent score. Right. I think I gave it like a sixty. Yeah. You gave in the sixties. I don't like the seventy is a very a very subjective score. An extremely subjective score because once again, Catholic shit scares shootout at me, having gone, religion, classes, and all that stuff like most of my early childhood days. That scared me this did not scare me all the parts of it for me that I could understand. It wasn't much. Was that Linda Cartolini with some sort of truant officer in that shoes? Trying to investigate law your own just weird like cursed lady wearing a white sheet all the time for some reason. And I didn't like it and giving it fifteen and first half of it was not terrible. I did like the interesting what was sixteen hundred or some shit. But then like everything. After that, just very slow second half of. It was terrible wasn't scary. I did like the guy Victor who's the the main male actor in that again. Raymond cruz. Yeah. Even cruise at sky from breaking bad, right guy. Put that together. Yeah. I like him Lynn. Carleen was like, I would say just okay, she's my Queen. It's very tough to say otherwise. But yeah, I don't know. Not good. Not scary. Lot of jump scares. And considering the matter jump scares like you said, it's not scary nine million dollar budget. Made fifty mil sixty million dollars at the box. There you go. That's that's all you need. You get the that's what horror movies are all about low budget high returns. So did I make a mistake in not seeing this one? It's going to be funny when we do a worst movies of the year, you're going to have to watch you're gonna have to at least give through your own some excited to hear your view this movie in January twenty twenty. Well, I don't think you'll make my list to good you're gonna have to scrub you'd have to go through a couple DFW did not watch. So we'll get there the time. No. You should not be disappointed. You didn't watch this movie? Fucking. I would've liked to hear your thoughts. But I'm not interested enough to care. What your thoughts are either is the non James ones have not been very good. No, they haven't they just they have not been and they just stop making them the second Annabelle was bizarrely not awful. But I people liked it. I didn't like it. How did not like it? But it wasn't as bad as the the other stuff they've had and you're so I want to go back to one thing you said Kendrick movie starts in Mexico in like, the sixteen hundred in Mexico LA. Not yet another review on YouTube, Chris, but really interviewer reviewer. He mentioned the same thing. Like, why is this movie in LA? Why is this is like this is something from Mexican culture, keep it in fucking in Mexico? I don't know why it's in LA just doesn't make any sense trooper Cobb Ray in North Dakota. Perfect sense. I mean, I get LA Elliott fits at least like culturally, obviously, however to be there like it just the setting felt weird it, I don't like the look of the convict movies, especially the spin offs this just. Yeah. This was bad movie. What did it have to do with the conjuring? I couldn't together like it's in the conjuring universe. But when I when I go see a movie that's in some universe. I am getting the promise of connective in some relatedness. And from the looks of this movie. It's just a scary movie in has the Vulcan at it. The Annabelle doll apparently appeared in this one, and then has father Perez played by Tony Ahmadullah connection that that's the that's the only crossover that can tell who is who is like, yes. Like when you see the movie this weekend. When when we when we see them in those suits we've seen in the trailers. The crossover, but like who is who's clamoring for this? I mean, it made money fifty million dollars people. I guess, but like that's still in the grand scheme of things. Not a lot of money. The the has has a deleted scene. That would have made the conjuring connection. More clear, according to collider outside if some appearances there's a screen seen too much for me to read giggle. It is anything subtle. I did not catch it. That's for sure. Yes. Basically, what do you call it? The one connection that nightside. I didn't read that same collateral. You read tro, but I did read it different one. And in that one day said that the connection was going to be old Sarajevo, which is roughly in Spanish old pig. So if. Was the one connecting factor that they had to cut. I mean, I guess they were just rushed for time. No. Old Gus Spanish, I was trying to Google that install the entire time thing that I do this into the accident but doing. No Gus it's still VA. He'll Gus this is old gusts via hill Gus are via hill. Gus if he's in seventy would not be alive today unless young us, but the pope Edrich Wilson having a look at the camera. God, it's all it's old. Gus he's like the bye bye, man. Do I keep doing the high pitch one in the low pitch one? And you stick to one we heard removal Gus left testicle e. Was climate over barbed wire fence got caught. And then once you're move that won't he start shoe on the other one. And or move that to the ward off and fiction fucking old gusts and what a guy. So you're while you're there. Gave it a fifteen. I gave it a twenty one audience given a nineteen out of a hundred low addressable gusts and Duluth trading company overalls. Keep him warm boiled guts Trevan gave it a D N W did not watch. We'll get. We'll get the full thoughts in January. That's gary. That's an Elsie be guarantee. Not to sign you up for anything. Yeah. A watch this weekend. You're in avengers. Then game, sir. Please turn your phone up. I'm watching the curse of your own the stream that I found surplus. There are no hogs allowed in this theater. Pet cemetery next up. Dr Dr Creedon his wife Rachel relocate from Boston to rule main with their two young children the couple soon. Discover a mysterious burial ground hidden deep in the woods near their home. When tragedy strikes they turn to their neighbor. Judd played by John Lithgow setting off a perilous chain-reaction that unleashes unspeakable evil with horrific consequences again spoiler review. We'll get right into it. I mean, the big twist in this movie in the end the entire family is resurrected they one by one berry other in beyond the grave of the pet cemetery. That's that's the twist. I guess they're all like, it's basically the talking dead. It's like a weird Walking Dead pet cemetery type thing, I don't I don't know the pet cemetery book. I don't even think I've seen the original movie. But I know it's not good this movie. Didn't do a ton. In for me. I also think it was awful like in some spots. I think the I think the build up for a lot of the movie was was decently the first half movie actually didn't despise. It's when it really kicks into gear with people being resurrected from the grave that I really didn't like it. Like, I it really took me out of it wasn't a fan. I gave it a sixty one out of a hundred and if they would've landed the ending, I think this could have been actually pretty decent could have been seventies eighties. I really liked the build up, but it kinda came crashing down at brought this down to sixties mine employing this into the fifties. But my initial score sixty one hundred hundred gives us sixty four on one hundred again this was near and I thought seventies eighties. And I was like this actually might be good in the way raft up. I just I didn't love it. Like, it was it was overly simple like it. It wasn't too twisty. I didn't connect on a horror level at the end. Because I thought the beginning it was pretty creepy. It just it kind of fell flat for me. Which is unfortunate. I think there was some pieces there were could've worked. What did you guys? Thank Ken, Jack, a gave it a fifty one out of a hundred the beginning. So muddled down with like spoken-word exposition, which as every single review it. I make a point to like say hate that. I really just genuinely despise spoken-word exposition in like if you leave some of its context clues, especially in horror like you can either let people think that it's a mystery in that it's not supposed to be explained or let them try and figure it out on their own. And the fact that they muddled through so much of just talking about the pet cemetery talking about the curses reading it out of fucking weird book things that they found. It was bad. I didn't like Jason Clark's performance at all. I thought that I didn't just didn't enjoy him. I did like gone blank on his name the agus who played Gus judge. John lithgow. Yeah. John lithgow. I thought John Lithgow he played like the grandpa if you acts out should ask Jason Clark and his terror. Connects American accent in you, just kept young goes grandpa or something I'd like this movie a hundred times more and just didn't enjoy didn't the wife was. Okay, kid was whatever the cat worse. Actor in the whole movie by far did not believe it was dead for second. There was just not overall good movie. I actually disagree with you in that enjoyed the ending little bit. Like when the when they all up to the car that that was kinda cool. I gave this a seventy I enjoyed it care to elaborate. Okay. I it would just easy to get through. It didn't require much thinking I was a big fan of the original movie. I actually watched some of the original movie, maybe they're multiple of them. But like the one I'm thinking of I a kid, it's very creepy. But it hasn't as well thought. This was a pretty faithful like there's some differences here and there, but like it's pretty faithful adaptation of that movie. But maybe not ten maybe the book, but I haven't read the book. So I can't compare. I like the concept. I liked the creepy -ness of bearing. Something in having it come back like alive, but not actually alive. And I think there's some good questions that you can think about in terms of what it means to be alive. Maybe come from it not necessarily from the movie itself. But just post viewing critical analysis actually gave thrones explored this win contra though, whisper back line by the witch and was not all there. So they did it first to saying it's nineteen eighty something movie the mountain to and I liked that idea. I like the resurrection yet like not actually being fulfilled with the real life in like the mere presence of somebody not not necessarily being the actual presence. And I don't know if that makes sense, but I just I I really liked the vibe of this one in it resonated with me, and I'll I will omit like there's lots. Talking. John Lithgow does a really good job as always he has looked like the same age since he was thirty five. He is Asian to his age. But when he was thirty five he looked the same. But I enjoyed it. And I liked the ending. It was it was kind of where you expected it to go. And I'm fine with that. It's definitely easy to get through. Actually don't agree with that. But that's kind of my critique though, I wanted something a little more challenging challenging out there. And I thought it was going. I thought it was going there. I really do. 'cause it get maybe flat isn't the word. We'll do because it really brought my score down pretty hard. The ending the wrap up. It just didn't work for me was bland overly simple say that again, that's kind of very that's where all land on it with that. I did nothing scared me too much in the movie, but the part where it let's go gets his Kili slice that freaked me out. I anything with an achilles freaks me. The fuck out. No matter the movie if you get your killing slice not gonna like it didn't like a one bit. The cat was a piece of shit too, bad, bad cat, actor didn't it didn't. But Jason Clark accident dislike his accent was so bad his exit can get weirded movies, though. Have you noticed that they've had them play Americans a lot and recently? He's also in that movie shoot unaware of the world post World War Two when that's coming out recently. We plays a British army officers something and his British accent isn't very good either. America's bad is British his bed. And like I mean, I just wanna hear him speak with an Australian accent. That one is weird because I actually didn't understand where he was supposed to. I know they showed up I was confused where he's supposed to be for trailer because the accent so bizarre. I was very confused at first on that. That's what I'm saying. He's just he's not a good is not good at accent work. And he's a coach or something any was it was the Terminator Genesis is accent was weird. It was good mudbound. When it was a accelerate drawl, but I guess like southern drawl is at the easiest almost like the cockney. Accent of American accents did like that. Olga's took old Gus Baird him when the old pet cemetery and he came back. Atar bag of baby diapers. Old guts, Ben cockney Gus better. No, I I know what you're saying though, Jeff like, I think there are a lot of it was like it got the movie got me think, but the movie didn't challenge me to think itself. It was kind of just after the movie I started thinking about more stuff. You know what I'm saying? So like, I guess they could have gone deeper. There may be could have been like more significant meaning but at the same time, it's like I'm not familiar with the works of Stephen King. So I don't know how much he writes into those books. I just know. It was pretty solid scary. This is my type of scary movie. Like, I don't like to jump scares. I liked the just the creepy semi dead things that aren't quite zombies. Just kind of dead. We talked about this like the two weeks ago. Right like earth three to at least within the last month. Zombies just in general, just yeah. But I I like the concept is something that has its full cognitive abilities. Yet does not retain its humanity. You know, what I'm saying like warm bodies, which we brought. His well, the one with nNcholas whole. Yeah. Because I think that gets into the bigger challenge about like what you know, what constitutes being human what constitutes really being alive. This guys. I'm thinking at a sixth grade level here right now. So please don't pretend like I am saying anything trying to be smart. Just just talking dead. Just a guy trying to talk it out. I think it's good point. I got zombie hog. Cocktail gusts dead. Gus we'll go slow Gus from the pool. Play all the hit. So gus. So pets have Terry. Trill gives it a seventy I give it a sixty one Kendrick a fifty one audience of sixty four out of a hundred. Yeah, this was a lull for review. So being less to say, let's just say it like it is it was not the most exciting exciting review week in the world. But we have a lot of great ones coming up with recap those quick, we'll do a few audience questions shorter pod, baby. But that's not gonna matter. Let me just say that. That's that's again your head for tomorrow. We have our review for avengers endgame next week. And then long shot the week after that septa Rogan trolleys throwing comedy in a long time laws done with the blockers. Now there had their had one between that. Yeah. But but there couldn't have been more than one. Or was it? Homes of Watson was on. I mean that was technically comedy goodness. Watson out. Did Gus get so large C three PO now? The millennium falcon is tilting to one side due to old guts. Teeth. Eating this space chessboard. Oh, my. Detective Pika chew. That's the week after that. And then gentlemen, chapter three para bellum Aladdin, then Godzilla king of the monsters and rocket a rocket, man. We wanna move rocket man, though. Because Zillow I have to be a standalone review a dark Phoenix after that. Oh, sure know what to do. I don't want to. I can't wait for that trailer. Tomorrow came for the trailers before and game, hoping the Skywalker trailer and then men in black international. Use can't just said Trojans can smirking generis deniers smirking as the joker. Society. All right. We'll get to do some audience questions here. This is an easy one for me. Would you rather keep getting Star Wars movies like planned and have episode nine seventy five out of one hundred or have episode nine the last one ever be a whole one hundred out of one hundred better than empire. Give you the one hundred one hundred. Yeah, I don't ever need another stores got fucking nine of them eleven of them. Give it so many of them are bed. Not so many of them at a decent amount of them are bed. Yeah. I'm fine. With just one more. Great one. Yeah. I agree with you. I'm thirty four year old man in at a point my life. I thought two points in my life. I thought no more Star Wars movies were ever going to be made. Exactly. So I have been fine with that. And if they ended it on a one hundred out of one hundred note that could be the best way to go out the thing that like. This makes me think about is is a Star Wars movie without a connection to the current universe universe or the sky walkers like even worth exploring. Like is that still interest you or does that? I mean like is the main Lori interests me, but that's a TV show. Like, if they said, okay, we're going to come out with the new mainline Star Wars movies in we've already ended the Skywalker saga. Where do you? Go. The expand the Laurie can go nuts involving the star walkers or anything like that. Would you care would you care at that point is is what I'm getting at? Huffing with these new trilogies is going to be like if they don't pull people want these new characters in the first what the fuck are. They gonna do me like his even even the prequels fadiman is sucked. But there are so many elements there of things you knew already that no matter what people are still going to be pulled into the next one Boba fett. Oh shit. You know, the next one's like Vader helmet. So you matter what you had something that you connected to these new ones. I'm sure they will have some nuggets here and there, but they also can't have too many urge gonna be this is over bunch on the small universe ship that people want them to get rid of. So. I'd be fine with them rapping. Like, I'm fine either way. Like if I could get a seventy five seventy five and keep getting seventy five average Sony five hundred. So you're just you're green with the first one damn owned. Truth. Phil back on you. This. Think I'm taking I'm taking the more movies. I don't need another one hundred respect that. And that's what I was saying is that'd be happy the way, but I would love I would love for everything I've known grown up with to be wrapped in a tight bow. And ended the way I want it and completely destroyed for future generations fair enough. You guys can't enjoy the thing. It's for me only for me, not for you for me in my generation, Luke longs to me and think if I had your perspective of like not thinking, there's gonna be any more different. Like, I think I was like five when they announced I one so I never really was conscious enough to get that. Like it gets feeling of. Oh, this is the only thing I have. So I guess I was a little bit spoiled in that regard. But I want more I want as much as possible. Well, that's why the thing your young. But like I was fifteen when the prequels were coming out, and Jeff you're probably eleven twelve ten somebody nineteen ninety nine right? So like two years. Yeah. As seven or eight. Yeah. Was. Well, the thing was I grew up watching Star Wars in the prequel such a big deal because it really did feel like hell is freezing over because it had been, you know, seventeen sixteen years since the previous movies, but in terms of like time away like what George Lucas had done dumping. Really people felt like they're never coming. And that's why everybody was so hyped up about it. And that's why everyone was so disappointed when the fan of minutes dunk. I'm glad I witnessed the Phantom Menace. When I was a kitten liked it. I like all my God the trailer for that event that Kenneth Branagh lake speaks movies on TV, right f it so tell you can't look at it. He looked so that make job is something else. It's horrifying, by the way. Did you guys? See the picture of Gary Busey with the mascot grew. Yes. No funniest thing about that. Is that it doesn't ply that Garib us fourteen feet tall? It does have to think that the best mascot groups too thick. Isn't isn't grew kind of lanky at some points. Yeah. No is top-heavy Linke's. Yes. Super skinny this one should be way. Why did compensate for human legs? I don't feel like this grew tapers to the the acceptable proportions of what a grew would do. What do you think grooves Encinas forty seven? I don't know if that's reasonable because I don't know. I don't know barometer for what seems should be. He's got he's got like a twenty two inch crutch drop and forty seven inch and seeing. No, it's more like a four inch crutch drop because he Scotland those cartoon crutches that are just very spelt. Yeah. What have you been has a penis? I mean, it's not candidate is it. He doesn't have. I don't know if they explicitly say in any despicable me that he has a cock and balls did. He's definitely got that lobster on them. He has yamba. Have a. Take in balls. You're gonna find stuff you don't wanna see big that big Red Lobster. Look it up his picture. He's got a weird curve forty five degrees degree angles left. I mean, look at this. This light. Him in a tight suit. I don't see any any Bolger anything. Oh, my God, smooth Groot or smooth grew doesn't have any. There's no bowls. I mean, but he also doesn't have a waste and. Yeah. I don't know. I just not feeling this group has to think the proportions are off. And I think everybody involved with this should be fired. He's way too heavy to not have a Fuca that just doesn't make sense. Like, technically speaking, I feel like I can see this person's face behind the mouth fail. Picture of him. Here's a picture of him with the wedgie, and you can see a lot. Church desserts, grew naked trust me. There's it's not. It's nothing, vulgar, tease is got the Hank hill cake. Small ask. Yeah. Also, kicking balls. Search Greg grew Halloween costumes and have have a good time. Trying to sleep later in the night. Jesus christ. Dick, dick, let grew there will be no cock and ball torture here. Man. Let's move on to a food question when you make PB and J which spread I somebody wants to know I them on. Opposite sides of the breads. Yeah. As I say that peanut butter on one, Jillian the other. Yeah. I to do squirt jelly because I am a child. Do you? Do it the right way. Where like you put the pieces of bread with toppings on it on the hand side. And then you crushed the dry side in between a sandwich. What we need to try side. Like, the dry side is the is this middle of the sandwich in the wet side is what you're grabbing their hands. I don't know. I I'll tell you what I do. Take a piece of bread spread peanut butter on it. And then I squirt the jelly on top of the peanut butter and put the bread on top of that scorn. What what what flavor? Jellies your favorite Graham. Yeah. Go great refunding, grapes. Encored grape jelly doesn't really taste grapes. That's very true about designer jelly like a fancy jelly. 'cause I like nice nice date of corron jelly from going fancy. Do you ever? Go at the store. Kensington catch up. Is that fancy catch-up? You see that like a whole foods? Seltzer. Kensington is it just catch up. Or is that have like something in it? It's just catch that tastes different times. Now, I like Heinz I it's either what a burger shout out to Jeff for that one is the ketchups delicious or tines. You can get what a burger bottles yet. I don't eat. I don't need any hunts. Send you guys the method. I was talking about of you try and make a joke. Oh, okay. It was a bit. Where you hold the Pete. Okay. Thirties hip to the memes, but I was just re- betted explaining it that one. That's that'd be now. Yeah, I've this group costume looks like the baby Grinch had one punch man had a kid. Search search baby grew cost listening to this. You don't need the apple. But don't search baby grew member. One member an iphone gut multitasking for the first time. Yes, wild you can play your music while you're in other apps crazy shit. The the funniest thing is like I I I focus on desktop in like how. Sparse like the actual late. Only wanna call them apps on the phone where Ariel yet had a text calculator photos camera calendar stocks at stock apps real big hit. Don't forget native YouTube back who wouldn't even the native YouTube app on the first one was there is there was none of the first one. There was. Member bad apple maps was an and you're on the edge network. So if you didn't have WI fi you use the edge network to watch YouTube video it was just pixel like five pixels moving around the screen. Looks like shit. Yeah. Yeah. They're tiny. That's crazy, man. You know, we live in a society technology, and all that just crazy like what on trickster what it technology turned against us. I written letters agai. My highschool got the iphone but didn't use it for the phone purpose that uses regular phone, and he always said he used the iphone to watch films films. I don't like that term. That person sounds like they drive a mini Cooper. Don't let's not shit on many Cooper's here. You many Cooper guy who doesn't like look good mini Cooper. Did you not watch the Italian job? I like the the club ban are the the countryman. Or whatever the bigger many Cooper is. I think those are slick let me be clear I've never drought. Drove a voice only be clear. Let me. Yeah. Just I never driven one. But they look really cool. And I think that they I couldn't be caught dead. But I also think I would not judge anyone forever driving. Do you? Remember, the shutter speed on the first iphone camera. Yes. Like three seconds is big time camera delay. Oh boy. This is a big no all right, frozen mayonnaise with ketchup and fries them out. Yeah. I'm out on now. I don't I don't quite get that one. That's Saint Louis shit right there Jesus Christ. As sounds like some gastro pub frozen a cake of mandates. And then puts it on a burger that melts in front of you. There wasn't a show. Oh on all you have to catch going on actually is. Oh, man that actually come in me gag there is a show. There wasn't show on food network like foods scientists I don't know what it's called. But they did a test in a grocery store where they had these small cups, and they called it salmon ice cream and people were like, oh what the fuck that's a sculpting. And then they repurpose it in grocery store to be like a spread for crackers and people hate it and loved it. The perception of like how the food is is like salmon is being growth, but then like Thomas Fred's on a cracker like okay that. That's something that I might like them sort of to cooter aboard. Yeah. Kind of like pedialyte when they rebranded adult hydration beverage. Yeah. That was a smart move. That's true. That was very smart. The great marketing move. I feel like they took my secret. Beijing even have any fucking money. Eighty eighty. You buy your baby pedialyte with. In a tough night at at Bali mcshea as. Grill. All that Fugger. Did was sleep all day. What is needed hydration for? What is the what is the one? This. What is the saddest frozen meal every? Every Celeste pizza ever eaten a lot. There's a lot of them still them ten for ten at stop and shop. And I would do it every time I saw him. Fucking were discussing in. The worst thing is I wouldn't even like toaster. Wave them. So they were like soggy is shit, and there's so gross. But I was just like a fat pig as I put it in my mouth of my God their meal I've ever eaten. I've eaten so many of them. Feel gear frozen agro guy. The my wife is joining us right now. She's in the room can come closer to the mic place. He could come closer to the mic not gonna bite. Olga's might. What's the most disgusting thing you've ever see me Aiden you good at remembering stuff like this? I know you can think of it. I do. All right. Can we do storytime row? Quick. Yes. Listen new segment. The my my lovely wife who who's amazing mother kids of the kid. Kid. So I I heard you had an incident with one of our dogs today. Situation. Okay. So the dog was sitting on the couch, and you're sitting next to the dog and this dog's a French bulldog is a tiny little dog. She's very cute, but what does the dog do project vomited so the dog projectile vomited, but what was the worst part about this vomit? The the vomit was shit. The the dog had apparently eaten its own shit outside and then come onto the couch and where did all the ship vomit? Go. So he got on the couch in what was the most precious thing had got on the baby toys are baby plays. She just ship vomits all over these baby toys now, here's the here's the best. She threw away the toys the best part about this is is. I didn't do any shopping over the weekend. We've been busy in. So she goes to clean it up in. What did we not have? We did not have paper tells folks we had no paper towels. So what did you use to clean up the dog shit vomit? No old baby. Old baby clothes that will never be worn. Again. We're used to clean up shit funding. That is absolutely fucking disgusting. Oh my God. I walked in the house, and you had the baby. And what's the first thing? I said. Did the dog Cava shit. Sweet. I didn't say hi to her. I you say love yard miss you. I came in. I looked at I go to the dog shit near she gets. Yes. I'm like on the carpet. No. But thank God. Anyway, thank you for coming to tell his story. I found it a found it very funny because I didn't have to clean it up. Clubbing thought her first full story. Time would be shit vomit with that baby for shit splutter to she she did want. She did like a thrice over on the baby to make sure the baby didn't have shit Lamad on it. I lived in an old house once and a dog did the same thing like accepted just shit had diarrhea, but it had diarrhea into like a floor vent. I had to remove the floor air vent and clean out the dog diarrhea from the air f- it got so gross. Yeah. Anyway, that's been storytime with the ball insists of setting. If anyone wants to search Amy's light in leaned. Three cheese penny marinara. This is the worst thing. I've ever had though Google. She penny marinara the cheese is like welded to the pond, you got that is correct. He's christ. I'm trying to think of I've eaten so much. Shitty. Stuff that doesn't really register to me. Shitty. Like, you know, what you get older? You're like when you're like seventeen you're hitting the cici's puff buffet pizza buffet like this is delicious. And then you go back now. And you're like, oh, man. I wasn't all that. Great. It's like that. Except I can't remember what I was eating. Do you ever have a food? You could fork. I'll know man, I like that stuff. No. I do. That's what I'm saying. I gentlemen, do head to I didn't care for one. I liked only had the bacon MAC and cheese and was very good. Oh, disgusting food. I've ever eaten thinks I think it's easily all the Celeste frozen pizza discs that have eaten but other than that. I think that's that's basically what are celebs that a regional thing Celeste. It's like a just a tiny personal frozen pizza that also Elliott or Elliot's pizza whatever that is. I know I know a lot of people who like Elliot's pizza. It's just it doesn't taste good. That's just fact, but like my parents used to buy all the time, and we would just me my brothers plow through it. And again, the worst thing about it is that we wouldn't played up in the oven, which would make it at least Poudel we heat up in the microwave like eating a bath. Mat like a soggy bath. Mat now that I think about it. I think those lunch -able chicken tenders from that one episode. I combined all the lunch Ables that that was that came close that was just very disgusting. Disgusting, but there has to be a there's a writer on that. Because it wasn't meant to be in that way, like the were talking about that's how they're meant to be consumed. But by itself, though, even unwrapping those lunch -able hotdogs and getting whiff of that hot dog air. Like, you're sitting cross legged on the floor in a hot day is just disgusting. Yeah. I stand by the fact that that the launch of a hotdog things. One of the grossest things are seen in my life was pretty bad those that's part of the group has to be the grossest thing you've eaten right or maybe not. It's it was pretty gross. It was pretty gross. I've probably done some gross stuff. What about the site of hot dogs boiling in pot of water? Net kind of gross like that gross visual. By the way, I wanna say pop tarts fantastic pop tarts. Well, pop tarts are fantastic. Years, but yet strudel hot pockets. I'd be like fuck. It's lean pockets Pacific ethic. I actually like the taste of lean pockets more than lean pockets are better. That's my opinion as well. Give the I had the ham and cheese wants not a fan not a fan at all the burritos. You get it like a seven eleven and heat them up on the way, they're gonna no no, they're not bad seven eleven we go into it all the time because it's right by work. And they they sell like free like plastic wrapped chicken breast just playing unseasoned plastic rep chicken breasts. It's that crazy in our district. Can't God it, but I would I always like want to get it to Kito. But then I look at it. And I see like fucking doctor strange. I see all of my fourteen million scenarios, and they all ended diarrhea. So I don't like them. It was that one. That was like the meat Takito. Where's his nothing? But meat and it was a blast. Than it was not very good. Can't sit. Those are have you ever had the what is it? Am the Annie's frozen burritos. Those are pretty good. I've never done the Annie's your Ganic ones. I like those difference. They have the Indian food once like, yeah. Just just like non wraps with the current pretty good. Don is delightful in smell like it's taking like chicken Vindaloo and mixing it with like salon lime rice. Here. A buffalo chicken dip person, of course, on get some fresh non very bread the buffalo chicken dip on the non I think I think I mentioned that during our Super Bowl show you want to eight for dinner tonight. I made myself in non pizzas. Non put marinara sauce on its mozzarella. -mongst mother herbs. Put it in the toaster oven for like ten minutes. Boy was delicious. Garlic, non specifically, very very, very good. We're. Banquet frozen meal. Those are the worst banquet. I don't like hungry, man. We've talked about this before. But the Bank would brownie where it's like eating a fucking spamming welded. Sponge, like, oh, those are the absolute worst. Marie. Meri's Emory's of definitely better kids cuisine ones, like the star cake on love kids ended a brownie and you put the brownie and the entire Brown except like a centimeter. The middle was just overcooked charred. Half of it. You couldn't get out because it was stuck to the side corn, they'll kids cuisine corned with the coil. Kids court water. I wanna do. I wanna make a frozen meal. That's like the new Samsung flip phone on on the face side has a frozen meal and unfold it in its second frozen meal. Yeah. Do pack that. Get a get kissing ISIS. Casey nights debt to test. It. Idea. The frozen brands phones breaking apparently. So it's a piece of shit. So here's the thing. Here's the last thing. We'll do we're gonna we're gonna hang up the old putt. Here's what's happening. So you know, how in any phone you by any device for the most part? There's that that protector on plastic protected at UP off. Right. I mean, that's come commonplace. When you buy technology, and so they sent these phones out to these influencers people who review and put them on YouTube. And there's this like plastic thing I'm top of the Samsung is the one that folds and people were peeling it. But it wasn't meant to be killed. It's part of the screen in the phone. And so when they got about a third of the way it went ruin mistreat. But again, it's like they do on boxing's for a living every screen boss MAC book phone, anything, you rip the thing off. So now, they're sending that phone out saying don't rip the screen off. But at first there was nothing on there. So these people reviewing the phone almost everyone rip that screen and the phone. That's it for the podcast. We have a big time big time review next week vendors endgame. But the big thing you gotta do is head to the podcast feed Thursday night, April twenty fifth nine fifteen pm something special sitting in their very said if you guys listen to thinking Gessler, it is we'll have that ready to go. Enjoy vendors and game do not fucking spoil it for people. Don't be a bag so many people like we posted this recap and somebody you're with a spoiler. It's like go. Fuck yourself. Bad things do shit like your lame. Not you them. Sorry. I tweet like forever was just an adventure. Spoiler for some reason. Make sure you go see vendors endgame weird saying that damn finally for Kenji control. I'm geoff. Oh, we will talk to you on the night week at the box office. Once. The social.

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Episode 106 - The Lawnmower Sittin' Right Next To The Tree

Congratulations with Chris D'Elia

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Episode 106 - The Lawnmower Sittin' Right Next To The Tree

"This is this episode of congratulations is brought to you by the cash up your Renault. The cash is the number one in finance. But did you realize you can get the most powerful debit card in the world with the cash apps? Cashcard just select a boost in your cash apps. Wipe the cash card and save ten percent or more at whole foods. Shake check to poli Taco Bell Chick-fil-A all coffee shops around the country. We'll talk about this more later on in the show sit on the edge of your seat. Download the cash out for free on the app store or Google play market. Crazy. Chris christie. Crazy crazy. Those were all the fucking those could Chang's for all the fucking road dates. I just did. I was in. Where was look first of all welcome episode one. Oh, six of congratulations thought was going to do three episodes and then quit. And here. I am one hundred three episodes later. So it's one hundred six you guys are great. Audience and thanks for listening. I just got back from the midwest. And had a good time. It was way too. Cole was to call. Yeah. Was it lessens your he has no shit all those people relocate. Yes. Are they going to know do they say they're going to are they going to know they're going to? But they should it's way. Too cold. I was in Milwaukee, Madison and Chicago. And when I was a Madison it was negative six when I was in Milwaukee it was. Ten degrees. And then when I was in Chicago, like forty to look, you know, what's the most annoying thing is the guy who goes who goes like this who after they fucking after it's real cold like negative six and ten degree weather. Everyone's going like this. Oh, it's a fucking. Balmy. It's what does it practically summer? That's amazing. Hey guy. You're boring. Get a personality. Don't just say stuff. You hear it didn't. I'm talking about. Don't just say stuff you hear. That's that's funniest thing CNS year on December thirtieth but anyway. That's what he did a last. That's what he did. I heard people saying that. And but it was all good, man. We had a good time. It was it was absolutely fucking freezing. I don't get how people can do that. And also cold his cold. Some people will be like, hey, I don't even feel that anymore. Like, yeah. I don't believe that cold is cold. I don't care if you're from there, it sucks. How cold it is? It's a great place. Madison's an awesome place. Milwaukee was great the theater in Milwaukee was awesome. What do you call it? What I do the riverside theatre. Really great theater. And then I did Chicago theater, which was the biggest. Show that I've done so far solo really until my Phoenix one which will be even bigger, and then my other Chicago ones also. So if you I have two more Chicago's coming up because popular demand sold out the first two in a day and each and then third one is for sale now, and they're still some tickets left. So if you wanna get them get them now because it will sell out, but yeah, and the fuck and by the way, the funniest thing happened in Chicago that ever was on the road with me and my opener. So my opener is. My opener is is my my headphones, not working. What does this dude? Why does this keep happening? Can you hear me? You can hear me. Okay. My opener is my I hear me now. My opener is. He's a lot of people are starting to know who he is my shows because I post about on Instagram and talk about on podcast regretted. Yes. But. He's basically a dog in human form like they don't have to cast fuck in. You know in movies where dogs talk and stuff. They don't have to. They should literally just put him in it and not do any siege. I just have him talking. That's how he is. And he will be with other dogs. And you'd be like something weird about that other dog and be like, oh, it's actually human go. Yeah. I see it actually. So he since people are starting to get to know who he is at my show, specifically strictly and not anywhere else. Just so he knows just so he doesn't get a fucking big ego. He he he also does these stupid videos where he'll he'll like put a movie together for the weekend. And it's all you know, it's like he'll he'll over lap. Some like stupid music. That's like the buys back in town or like dank Dannatt that or like the iphone song that everyone has think that think that whatever sounds some shit like that anyway, lay it Hilaire it over and he'll do like a horribly cut together. Fucking thing that only like a girl he was. Dating would like, and so he was shooting one getting footage, quote, unquote, as it for the Chicago show because it was a big show and he put his foot up. So people wouldn't recognize him in the audience. And then he would go to what he did. We went out in the audience went to the back of the room. And he wanted to get like this tracking showers walking all the way up to the stage. And yet it's hooked up. And when he did it he got all the way up to the stage, and he thought in his dumb, fuck and brain instead of going around to the side and going back outside and then downstairs and back upstairs to the back of the state to the back green room. He was like I'm just gonna have to stage. So it went to hop the stage and fucking six security guys. Tackled him doing their job. And he was they were like what the fuck you doing? You can't do that. And he was like the opener on the opener screaming out on the opener in front of everybody. The show was going to start in ten minutes. How can you be that fucking stupid said with love? I mean. It's my show. I wouldn't expect security to know who I was I would walk up to security just so you know, I'm doing this. You guys. I was like, dude. That's the dumb. You're of all the things you've ever done on the road. That's the dumbest thing you've ever done. He was even he was like, yeah. I know is really stupid. He got beat up practically. Wow. I should've walked out right there. And just been like, you're fired. And everyone's like, oh, no. And it's weird. And then I did the show solo. I just like. He's a dog. He's a dog and human form. And that's it and that's final and that's final as a kid. We would say that my brother. Not doing it. And that's final. And then and then the other person can't convince him now that's final fuck as if any other times we didn't say its final wasn't final. We could change your mind. But if we said, his final can't change our mind. Anyway, I so Chicago was awesome. They were all awesome. They're not really not awesome anymore. You know, you go out there. You do the shows. The fans are ready. They're psyched to see you. I was it had been two years to the day that I had been to Chicago doing a show and that so that's pretty cool. I always like cool like serendipitous or whatever not certain dip it is. But like facts like that where it's like, hey was two years ago today. And then I signed the wall next to fucking Lauren hill. David Copperfield, signed the wall. On Chicago theater. The magic of David Copperfield. And I was thought about it for a little bit. I was like that's fucking hilarious because drew a huge picture taken up real estate big. Oh. And Lauren hill had a huge thing too. That she I don't know if these artists come with like big stamps or some shit fucking huge Katie Lang fuck it's like Frank Sinatra just went Frank Sinatra. Thanks guys, and then probably fucking fucker. You know? I just wrote. Christa Leah than the date. And then I write my name always afterwards in not cursive. So people know, it's me because people just go. In your like who's that? Someone's like, it's Bruce Willis like why the fuck was Bruce Willis, what was doing a fucking alive alive version of die hard. Crawling over the glass. Chicago theaters all these guys got bans, though, we're supposed has ban, you know, resources a band. That's one thing. I'll never have is a serious band, Mark. My fucking words, if I've ever serious band shoot me with a bow. And arrow. Serious bans. Way. But what was I saying? So I signed it. And and the magic of David Copperfield thought about it for a little bit. And I was like damn dude. Like, we all know magic isn't real. You know, like everybody straight up knows that just straight up. Everybody knows that everybody knows that more than everyone knows that wrestling is fake. And a lot of people know wrestling is fake. Okay. So. The fact that like a fifty year old man would would would sign a wall. The magic of me like can you? Wrap your head around what it might be like to be that person like to be fifty and be like like his either he thinks it's magic which he doesn't or he thinks I'm just going to do this because people know magic is in real. But they like the idea of magic. Or what is it did? Magicians have to have the biggest egos, right? How about the fucking some of them are like the funny ones are cool, buddy. Justin who has got that special on Netflix. He's dope. But the funny ones are cool. And then also the ones I gave blaner cool because they're not really doing magic standing on a pole in a square for a day and a half. And you're like how's he do that without eating doesn't he piss and you're like, it's more of a fucking stunt. You know, but. Anyway, the magic of David Copperfield. Yeah. So I signed up with somebody. They have they had a a a plexiglass thing over Frank Sinatra's. Signature which is pretty cool. That's crazy that Sinatra would just fuck. Wow. Imagine getting to see if you if you could go back in time. What time would you go back? I wanna say like I would go way back. I would wanna see like dinosaurs or some shit. But like, I think I might go back to just for me. I might just go back to the eighties or to see the be my age now and to go to the comedy store, and like see those guys like prior, and Eddie Murphy and to see those guys I might. Do that or go see dinosaurs? Or go to like, see what Napoleon's really like, you know, what I mean just to see how bitch they were like kings, and queens, I might go back in time to see how bitch kings were. I mean kings were the biggest bitches. The for can still are. You know, what I mean to put the anybody who wore like a fucking fancy wig like powdered their face like or put on those fake beakers. I used to call him beakers, but they're fucking beauty marks. The fuck. I'm sure those people smelled like shit, dude. Imagine how bad a fucking king smelled. For real. Imagine how bad of fucking. King smell just with get out. Just like fucking Fardon and shit. I bet kings shit in there. Fuck in Royal garb, all the time, and they would like they'll be like clean. It up servant. Get my bath ready next week. Fat fuck and kings was like you're either a fat bitch king or a fucking skinny as bitch king. Nobody would listen with skinny king. You got be a fat king? Otherwise, nobody's like, you're skinny king. And like the fucking. Fourteen hundreds be like Wisey, not eaten wise. He looked like that. Why's he his skinniest fuck and Rami Malik? I want my king status. Fuck. Shirt why they just this king right here who is that just some random king that we found our work of buys you dress like fuck Jared Leto going to dinner. Jared leto? What are you dressing, bro? I I wanna think Jared Leto is cool, but he's just like. I don't know. That's not cool to me. It's like his outfits would be like, here's the thing. Then. If Liam Niessen dressed like Jared Leto. I would think it was fucking bonkers cool or Bruce Willis if you dress like Jared, Leto bonkers, cool or. Who else? I don't know like skinny ass mother fuckers. It's tough for me to think they're cool is that fucking prejudice. Yet is. It's like. If you could put some weight on I guess is what I'm saying before your fucking cool. If I could like break you in half. Just be fit some sort of fit, and he probably fit. But like what are you doing wearing? I maybe I'm just jealous. I gotta wear shit like that. I gotta wear shit like that. I really do. I'm not famous enough though. That's the thing. I didn't think it super-duper famous to where I can wear like a fucking dodge neon like literally wear like parts of dodge neon and it's just all heavy and shit. Just clunking it all around at like some terrible fucking Hulu premiere that. I'm not even in. And he's just like, oh, you're comes Krista liaise wearing dodge parts of dodge neon. Wow. And his midsection. And cock is exposed very interesting. Okay. Very cool. What are you here for? I don't know. I just figured I wanted to just wanted to see it. Just wanted to see it even though Netflix already made a movie about this and Hulu is making it a week later. I'm still I'm at the premiere Jessica dodge neon and my Cox out. But that but see if I did that now people will be like fuck this guy who's he think he is I need to get to be the number one. Comedian or the number five actor, you know, and just get parts of dodge neon and just start wearing it. And so where nobody would say shit and girls would just be like, wait a minute. That's fucking. He pulls it off. He actually pulls it off. And then they're hater fucking boyfriend would be like, but he's got a fuck et. And he's got a fucking muffler coming out of a side of his ass. And they'd be like Gabby pulls it off. It's going to burn his ass. If he turns it on right? Whatever you're just tells you can't wear a dodge NIA parts of dodge neon at a Hulu premiere. That's. You know? I just looks like a fucking transform though. Right. People from Boston with their accent? Chicks from Boston with that accent. You know, a now for nothing. Let me suck dick. A nothing. You guys wanna go? See what's up with those fucking bridesmaid dresses, see if they're ready or whatever. A would've fucked. We're gonna plaque over here. We gotta get the fuck and pizza. Hey, a bitch commit. We're going to get some fucking pizza a nice ring. Well, you get when you get married. You got a date yet bitch. Hey, you suck his fucking cock last night. You gotta get a fucking guy. Right. Lou Yi fucking tits and address fall in our what are you doing? What are you trying to get fucking guy? Your thought fucking get in a car come on. Let's go. Let's go get some fucking. Let's go get some keen while. We gotta watch figures, right? Go get some fucking king watch, we greens. You grow sucking. Cock last night. We all went out with a weapon of fucking Rachel a Rachel. Yeah. What's happening? Hey, you suck fucking cock last night. Now now wasn't really feeling it, man. Yeah. Why not are you know, he made me scared for my safety. Yeah. Why you know when you get loan in a room with a man it could fuck and kill you yet. That's true like still fucking kind of feminine. But the way they sound isn't. Yeah. Wait to get my fucking heels off, you know, couldn't wait to get my fucking Lanjia. Alfred right. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Fuck these guys don't know what it's like to Wissam fucking heels. Jesus christ. I got fucking blisters. The size of my fucking areolas. Really wanted to suck his clock. Just a figure I make way more. I don't want him to think about fucking thought. I don't even know how I started talking about that. But. Whatever. Oh, by the way, fuck in. I direct TV showed up, dude. They fucking straight up showed up direct TV part two. They showed the fuck up with three guys that weren't dressed in uniforms. Would they were wearing sweaters? And I swear to God they look like they were in J crew catalog. And they did everything and then left which lets me know, you can do it. They texted me do. I got a fucking like I'm gonna have lunch with them. I am dude. I told him I would take out Hulu if they didn't show up. I told him I would take out who take out the dish employees and fucking and take them to dinner and then make love to him. I'm not going to do that anymore. They came in. They set it up, which means they can do it. They got scared dude they got scared because of the fucking colts. That's what we're doing here. We're bettering lives and not just mine. We're making direct TV setback. And the cult made direct TV sit back reflect on how the fuck their customer service was run, and it was running poorly, and I had to put out a fucking hot freestyle about it. And it was a wakeup call for them. And I don't just want it to work with me. I wanted to work with everyone else. So we are bettering the world babies babies, we're bettering customer service, and we're bettering the world. Got it didn't have to suck. Take them out the delta. How about how good fucking Christian bale is in that movie the fighter? At the end when they do that one clip, and he's just talking and he's just like, yeah. You know? And he's and he starts crying. What the fuck? Hey, are you really that guy? I would only like Christian bale better for if there was one other thing he did if he didn't fucking either lose weight or get fat or use prosthetics. And was just like this is how I'm doing it. I want I need Christian bale and easy to play a fucking Indian woman with no makeup. And just kill it and get nominated. I think that Romney Malik. It's mala great. I think he's that guy saw a little bit on the plane. I saw bohemian rhapsody. He's so good in that movie that guy is so good. I saw him once at the coffee being and I was like famous enough to where he's going to know. Why I'm and I went, hey, man. I'm fan you work. And he said, oh, yeah. I know you. Yeah. You really great. I like your stuff. Yeah. You really funny. I was like all cool. Thanks, buddy. He was like. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. But he fucking killed that shit. He killed it with his fucking buck prosthetic teeth, dude. I need to get some fucking buckeyes prosthetic teeth and just fucking do it role that should made me wanna get some buckeyes prosthetic teeth. I was crazy human wraps, dude. Freddie. Mercury was this shit. But wasn't he tall? I feel like Romney is shorter. How tall is? What's his name five five nine, Freddie? Mercury. Romney's five nine tall. Freddie. Mercury. Five ten okay. He looked big in the old folk and that guy rocked it, though. Damn. I want. That's honestly. Wow. That's that's how I got address. Just in a fuck and crown and wife beater, you know, like such a mixed up fucking outfit. Crown in a wife beater. Yeah. Fucking. Did you see? What was his name Travis Scott was that was that the Super Bowl? He is belt. My god. It was a Louvre Tom belt. And it was just like you just like relaxed, bro. You literally it was a pillow. It was a fucking pillow. You could sleep on. And have a great great nine hour sleep on. Like it was fucking felt. And it was like something that some fucking asshole in the eighth grade would make an art class, and everyone will be like, wow, that's the best one. And you'd be like, no, it's not. Look at my fingerprint shit, you asshole. Yeah. Some guy hit me up. Medina. I was making fun of the song. Sicko mode and somebody hit me up at the dude. If you actually look at it on rap genius. It's the lyrics are really deep, and I did and no they're not. You know? He says Jumba juice any song. The guy says Giampa juice snot deep d- made that song where he's like the fucking Bill is next to the tree and you're like Kay. Well, you're done. And law moas right next to the tree. Okay. All right now, you're just telling me where you put your fucking chore stuff. Paperclips on a desk. If you need 'em elopes, the next to the paper clips, remember when diem X would just do that fucking intros and out tros. You know, like, I know the blackout on os coming do like, I know. Hey, man, not Robert frost. DM X. What is it? The fucking. X gun give it to you. You know? Dude, where the hood at who we be. I mean these fucking songs I think it's who we be three does the law law right next to the tree. Let me just Google DM X lawn mower. I mean, it comes up, you know. Here we go. This is it. Came. Down the. Down to earth. The projects children listing things a list. A list wakes purchase a Liz. Thanks. The pave. Mckee's my hat. A brother a mother a sister. A brother sister computer a hat. Dr Seuss the sister computer, a hat coffee of phone a rug a cat Abed thing on wall a roof. Hold the low moa right next. Couldn't tree. They don't. Who we be? What? Case you have owns. Tile, a case votes. Tile a plan. Plug an outlet you put it in outlet over a plug day. They don't know hair from your eyes your face knows your face face. You know? What? Favorite rap song of all time just clinched it just clinched it. Dude music is fucking hole Larrea stewed unless you're singing like Queen drop it for real when Queen is just like, fucking and champions. And they and they're just saying see if they were like the. Next to the tree you'd be like, oh, I believe it. The law right next to the tree don't know leaves above. Awful. Dude. I would fuck in. Oh, yeah. Oh, no bullshit. If Queen had a song like that. I would fuck in God, dammit. I just fucking pay pal. Whoever has the estate to Queen. I just pay pal the money every month. I mean, do that's so fucking unless you're doing it. Like that just I mean, the two types of music to do are the killer shit like that where you got an amazing voice in your singing about how you're the champion. That's awesome. Or this kind of music. There is no more guy. I'd rather be in a room with than this fucking. Then this fucking song. This song. Okay. There is a. Right here. First of all this. Getting. Nothing. The fun. The fun annoying. The annoy the fun Oncle that you like when you're six and then when you turn fourteen you're like, he fucking uncle Scatman isn't coming. Izzy. Dude, this guy what? John. You know what I mean? Dude, come on, bro. Dude. What a fucking con, dude. This. Let me tell you to also here we go scap, man. There's the there's the song. I mean, I would I would love to be in a room at this guy. Jesus Christ, dude. What's the fucking? There's one song that did the guy is so fucking. Hi. What's it called? It's on that track. Scap man man Tra album. I gotta find this for you guys. This scap man's world. I think. Yeah. This is. So high. I mean, don't need intro for this. Scat man's world. Calling out. That's not a place. Oh. Very shopping. Justin key block. What do listen? Oh my gosh. To on you right now. Scatman fat man black and white and Brown do people from fucking eastern Europe. Like, literally, they love this music so much. It's unbelievable. I bet. Damn dude. That's so there's another one though, what's the fucking one used to have it because it was so funny, dude, let me do the or the ads here, and then I'll fucking do it. Okay. Find it. Blue apron. Oh, man. I cooked blue apron last like two weeks ago. And it was so good, man. Create healthy habits this year by learning to cook at home. Blue apron offers a variety of meals including kit approved family plans vegetarian plans and their brand new WW free. Stop plan who even really gives a better way to cook. Chef design recipes that use fresh seasonally inspired ingredients meals worth sharing on social media. And as little as twenty minutes time, saving tips and technique videos helped me learn as I go upcoming meals, pork trees, burgers and roasted potatoes. Spicy soy chicken thighs. 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So go do that. Now, I gotta find this song, by the way for from scap, man. It was on the album scap man's world. Scat man's world track listing tracks. Here. Song of Scotland was that it. I mean, everything's Scotland with this depth. This is. This is where he really fucking lost his mind. Imagine land of okay? People have time to. Everybody's equal. The society of Scotland land is composed of very loving, caring. People have never even heard of political corruption distinction war and all the other stuff that goes on. Oh. Oh, women scant land. Everyone is everyone K really driving that point. Then there's a bunch of kids singing. Oh my God. Dude. Imagine slitting your risk to this song. Imagine just laying in a top just like, that's it. You're ago song it and then just being like this. Imagine that. And you don't die yet though. Oh, you don't imagine. You don't die yet. And then all of a sudden, you're on your apple phone and then. And then this song, I will be pissed. I'll be like, oh, fuck sake. No somebody change. And then just all. Oh. And then someone finds you. With what somebody finds you. And it goes to this. This is not him. But. I I mean, I can't do when I was a kid. I love that song so much don't be happy. Talking too much about music fucking get the fuck off this music thing. Anyway, that guy is probably the best until you're fucking thirteen. And then you hate him. Also. Yeah. I mean has so many demons, you know. To fucking made up. That's that guys kinda my hero to make up a fucking dream world. And then just make seven albums about it scat world. K it's nothing also doesn't mean shitting on people. Cool, so German. Yeah. We listen to Scott world. But it means something so different to us. We love listening to it and shitting all over our spouses. We love listening to Scott men and shit all over our spouses. Hey. What's the fucking German lady name? German German lady name. Names. Here we go like ama- Amelia, and these are not good ones. Wolfgang? You know, that's good for guys come on. I don't hide there's a good German name. I don't hide come in here. What? Okay. I don't hide getting here. Come here. Come here bitch. Come here bitch. You know this shit. Hey, hey on. No, no, no, gang. I don't hate this your chest. Just crabbing what am I talking about? Right. Fucking gross. You know? You know? My buddy got punched dude got beat up in in. He was singing karaoke. And then he got fucking a put he sang a song. And then put the thing back in the microphone, and then just some guy just fucking beat them up. And then ran and then ran into a car in left, and he has no idea why. And he has no idea who did it. And that's it. That's just fill his life. Now. How fucking crazy is that? Doesn't know who he is. And. Damn god. Damn. I was like did you do anything to bump in anybody? You look at anybody. We are news like, Nope. To some guy just beat the shit out of Thuc. Crazy, right? You know what I do? That's it for that. You know what I do? I get so much fucking sleep, and I'll get the mostly by ever want. But by the way, my fucking tour managers Zack sleeps show fuck in much. It's on real. It's unreal. Dude. He'll be sleeping at night. Wake up. We'll drive to the next in the car sleeps the hallway get there. He'll get to the hotel. He'll sleep in the fucking hotel room. Then we'll go do our show, and then he'll go back, and we'll hang out for a little bit. And then he'll be like a one of the girls recognize me from your podcast. I got her a number. And then he'll go to sleep. I was texting. But then I fell asleep. And he was like he likes to introduce the show sometimes like he likes to go out on stage. And be like you guys ready. You might know me from Christmas podcast. I'm Zach and he'll do the laugh, but he'll make is like just do your regular laugh. But then I'll try to do the laugh, and then people, okay? Is that it and they'll be like? And then and then he brings Mike onstage, but like people like not everybody listened to the podcast on the show my show, so people like who's that fucking guy that with the high do just got the highest asks his ass in shoulders. He takes shit like this. Does how it takes your shit like this? Hey, don't don't don't. Don't worry about me. I'm just taking the shit out of my shoulder blades day. Did his ads is so high even black guys are like damn that's a high fucking ass. Dude, his ass so high he wipes it. That's zest. Farts, look. He doesn't silent one. So it doesn't if he's in public is like this. This. How it doesn't one? To let it out. You know, when you read your cheeks? The. My ass is. So my answer was so high that my bull should be on my chest. My kneecaps Mike cock should be. My face is all the way up there. Last name is Don covy, oh, you know, talian. So a talian is you be eating pizza all the time, dude. Shit out of his shoulder blades. Albro fucking love life, man. How come everybody, isn't laughing? All the time some people don't laugh that much dude people that just always talk business shit. God. Those people are boring and talk politics dude in scat world, people don't even know about political corruption. I'll go to scat world is that what they shit. Let me on my shoulders. All he does is fucking candy shit and sleep and shower, dude, he takes nine showers a day. The fuck, dude. Anyway. Hey, you give me laid from your podcast. He the dude what's more depressing than getting laid from fucking podcast episode. God you weren't on. You didn't have an arc on game of thrones. You know, what are you in fuck in the eastern band? Is that the name of it? How about when they bands like this, and they fucking sing and they focused share a microphone get your own fucking microphone, dude. If I was the lead singer and the fuck in second guitarist or the league Atara start to fuck in dip over to my mic. I would fuck in take that Mike away and go like this. I'd say stop and you don't like this microphone get your own fucking microphone and take that stupid fucking. What are you wearing who's that guy was in the sopranos that wears the long fucking thing on his head? Get get outta. What are you doing? Anyway. Yeah. Dude. Fucking life. You know, Steven van Zandt. Fuck you wearing on your head. Watch say that he'd probably because you've got cancer some shit, and I'm dickhead. Little Steven and the disciples of soul. Cock. Have a band called. No. That's it. Just wear regular ash it, and we fucking sing about how where the champions. Yeah. But I get a lot of sleep on the road, dude. Because you need it. If if you sleep you won't get sick for real. And also if you sleep you won't get sick. And then also though this besides that. Don't don't for some reason. It's thing bragging about how little sleep you get. That's so dumb. Did four hours sleep in last three days? No, first of all. No. You didn't when that guy Tyler shields. Brag about that's Tigers name, right? He's talking about how he didn't sleep from month. Like who the fuck believes that you die? You just go to sleep. You know, what I mean like you just fall asleep? You can't do that. You just go like for forty days. It's forty days. No, sleep one liar. Like, you just fall, you you did it you fall. You can't not sleep what two days at the most. You foresee the second you get alone. You just pass the fuck out standing up. Why is it about people that just like, oh, man? No knows and the rock does it too. By the way, he'll be like God, no sleep. No sleep four hours of sleep a back to the gridiron paradise or the iron paradise is football I paradise. And you'd be like dude can't rest, bro. What are you doing it for? Right. Such for can click. Everything's click bait did. Everything's click into. I mean, speaking to click I clicked on the fucking Liam Neeson article. How the fuck about that thing where he was like. Trying to get. The fucking thing where he was like somebody new got raped by a black guy. So he's looking for or some shit. I don't know, man. Whatever. Everything online is just so remember at the Super Bowl thing. Just right. The other day there was an article Adam Levine's nipple stole the halftime show. What? What the fuck are you talking about? What are you fucking four? All they did was take off his shirt if anything tattoos. He just had regular nipples. Nothing was wrong with his nipples. And also how annoying was it. When people were like, everyone only likes to talk shit about the fuck and halftime show, unless if if it was beyond say, everyone would talk about how great it was. If if it wasn't if it isn't beyond say, which it isn't EV where no matter who it is. Everyone's gonna talk about how bad it was. It wasn't bad at all doing exactly what fucking maroon five does. Do did. I talk about this. Like, I did talk about this. If everyone like nobody talks shit to Adam LeVine in person. He's a fucking great singer. Nobody talked shit about him in person because they're pushy ass mother fuckers. And then when they go online, they go like, yeah. Right. Fucking stupid tattoos. Oh, yeah. Okay. Bro. You're forty what are you doing with your shit, bro? You. Nothing. You're you're fucking pussy ass mother. Fucker you when Adam LeVine walks around and everyone man big even people who aren't fan, all man. Big fan got to get a picture your fucking kiss ass. That's what you are online. If you're talking shit, your kiss ass, your kiss ass, mother fucker. You don't say shit to them. So if you're fucking walking around, you don't see if you look online, you see Adam LeVine it. It, but he's one of the most popular individuals period. I remember that fake shit that they did where they took her nipple out in the Janet Jackson. This is like it was so set up. 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Rocketman

Pop Culture Happy Hour

14:20 min | 1 year ago

Rocketman

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from American pest as the leading provider of safe, sustainable pest control solutions across the DMV. Let American past help you to take back your home or business. From menacing pests visit them today at American pest dot net. Ruckman is a new bio pic about queer rock icon, Elton. John. It is in many ways. A typical rise and fall dangers of fame kind of rockstar bio-pic, but there is a difference. That's right. This is a full on jukebox musical on film, complete with dance numbers, and a'drug orgy, that doubles as dream ballet and star Taryn Edgerton doesn't just lip sync. He actually sings. I'm Stephen Thompson, and I'm Glen Wilton. We're talking rocket man sequence and feathers sunglasses and four inch platform. Shoes on this episode of pop culture. Happy hour. Don't go away. Support for this podcast and the following message come from subzero. Refrigeration wolf cooking and cove, dishwashing. Here's their head demonstration, chef Joe JR. Hasbro on the power of food to create moments worth savoring for me the memories that I have around food, a lot of them come from the sense of smell. And I think that's something that we as humans kind of shares that, that direct line of since to memory to learn how subzero wolf and cove can help you embrace every meal and moments visit subzero. Dash wolf dot com. Welcome back, just met. NPR music, Stephen Thompson, also with us is writer and comedian guy brenham, author of the P, C H h approved and Weldon endorsed my life, as a goddess welcome back. Good to be back. Glenn. My life is available in paperback, June eighteenth. Everybody look at up seven dollars professional on talking. All right. So let's start with the film itself, look comparisons to the film bohemian rhapsody are inevitable and necessary for a host of reasons we'll get to. But let's focus on this film, as a piece of entertainment, Stephen woods. Thank you know, early on in this movie. They throw in a few kind of arty flourishes, and I'm like, gosh, are these necessary, and then as the movie was progressing, I thought, oh, they're absolutely necessary in part because if you don't have already flourishes, you have the most boilerplate VH one behind the music of story of meteoric rise, followed by nightmare. Sent into booze and pills that you could possibly imagine. And so this film deals with that instead of just giving you that story straight as or they throw it a lot of very lush and lavish kind of jukebox musical type numbers, but also these vary. Dreamily shot very consciously arty bigger and bigger flourishes. They clearly are in love with their own costume department or in the every movie like this has to have over the closing credits. The side by side of reality for versus movie, and you can tell they love their costume department because they are recreating seen after seeing after seeing that we know from Elton John's life on the whole. There's a little bit of a ceiling for this kind of movie for me. It's still rock and roll bio-pic. It's still is what it is. But it's done in a very, very flashy and fun, very appropriately decadent way. That unbalanced made me enjoy it. Great because there is something about this. Whom I agree with you. There's something about this film that makes it indistinguishable from parody. It's both a rockstar biotech, and a satire of the rockstar bio pic, writ, large, this is a film that has seen walk hard, the two story and every time it gets close to a cliche, which it does, does very often, it kind of sales, passed it guy, would you think I'm sorry. First of all, Stephen, you want a movie about Elton, John to not be in love with its costume department. Show not tell baby. And look, I mean I it is hard for me to hear you guys call this cliche or hack or paint by numbers because it's walked the line, that is also mama Mia. I think that, that is transcendent I think that it is taking as read all of those points that are belabored in other like rock, and roll bio-pics and saying, yeah, you get that. Let's focus on the flourishes. Let's indulge in the flourishes, because I think there is a, a healthy points to be made. It has been asserted that queer stories can only be told with some degree of fantasy with some tool to get us inside the head of the person who is performing normalcy for the world and having a very different reaction inside of themselves. And when I realized that this movie was going to have that big sense of play I was really excited. Ease the thing that was missing from bohemian rhapsody, and it made it feel like it was truly a movie about Elton John. Right. Right. I mean these cliches are hardwired into the genera, you've got the headline montage song. Number one on the chart that montage, the somebody saying, this will never work the drugs, the sex, the whole price of fame meal kit that you can just get delivered. But by leaning into those cliches in the way that this film does and turning it into an honest to God musical you're not reproducing music tracks. You are interpreting the songs and they are inflection points to express emotion. The way they are in musicals are really worked for me. Yeah, I also this would be a good time to bring up, how strong performance is at the center of this movie. I think Taryn Edgerton is terrific, as Elton John. And I think this is where you start to get into some of the comparisons to bohemian rhapsody. Rami Malik is a terrific actor, but the choice to put him in prosthetic teeth and have him kind of pantomime ING. Freddie Mercury and trying to reproduce exactly what Freddie Mercury did. How mercury did it except for the singing? This is a much looser interpretation of Elton John in some ways. Taryn Edgerton does not look that much like Elton, John. He doesn't have speaking as a man with a round nose and gap teeth, I watched her and entertain and thought that man does not have a round nose or a gap in his frontier, yet, he doesn't need to. They didn't need to put him in gap-tooth prosthetics or round out his nose to make him seem like Elton John and his voice is not a perfect Similac rim of Elton John either. But he carries himself, as Elton John in really, really effective ways, both in the performance scenes and just acting as Elton John through all those highs. And lows. It is weird that we have made rock bio-pics, a Oscar genre that we love it is weird that we put actors. Through the paces of having to reinterpret these extremely charismatic performers. From thing they don't do and so much of the time it does just become like Romney Malik talking to us through too many teeth. We've all seen Kingsman tearing Edgerton has charisma like he was slathering it all over the screen the entire time and it just let you fall in love with the movie it was again. I'm going to say this is a mama Mia. I mean it is not as sparkly and campy as that. But the fact that he was clearly having a good time performing made you fall in love with what was happening. Yeah. Thank you for using the c word campy. Glenn our dear friend, Joachim booster had the best line about the map, all which was less fashion and make it party store. More party store and make it fashion. This movie is party store, but make it fashion at like everything that you guys are saying about, it's just sort of like hitting the points that it's supposed to that sort of, like, yeah. We know what this is. But. Like give it sparkle and Alon in this movie does that it's necessary because just as every rockstar bio, pic, does when it hits the middle really sags in the middle. I think once once Elton John, the character becomes such pill that he's just unpleasant, and a little bit boring to be around the way, somebody on that many drugs can be a little boring to be around. That's kind of it kind of lined up. I was just as tired of, of the character, but I, I mean I still liked their performance throughout. Let's go over those bohemian, rhapsody inevitable comparisons because you have at the center closeted queer substance abusing rockstar a price of fame narrative, arc time period, overlaps country origins, the same UK character and come and John Reid who was played in bohemian, rhapsody by Aidan Gillan and recommend by Richard Madden. Both from game of thrones. It just gets weirder. And we'd meter and of course, the director Dexter Fletcher, who was the director who kind of came in better up on bohemian rhapsody. When Bryan singer left before the end principal photography so much about these two films are similar, and yet they feel. Fundamentally different the way I interpreted, it is that I didn't feel like the scene was ending, and somebody was turning to the camera and say, no homo every time as I did didn't Whitman reps, which is weird. Because bohemian rhapsody had, like a gay director for over half of it. You would think that there would be less of that, fear. I think what they were doing is they're trying to make Baheen rhapsody. A four quadrant hit something that would be all things to all people so that the homophobes wouldn't get squeamish, and this film is very upfront about sexuality in a kind of a bracing way, not in a way that filth gratuitous to me, but it doesn't it's our rating. It does. There's, there's also so much more direct to'real artistry in this movie as opposed to Bahamian rhapsody, which, I mean, I think, unfortunately, I was not a bohemian rhapsody fan. It was a four quadrant hit. Yeah. It was a massive massive massive hit. This feels like it is going to, you know, hit its audience and it's doing, you know it did okay on its opening weekend, but I'm a little bummed like if one of. These two movies had to be a gigantic gigantic it, I really wish it had been this one. Yeah, it shows the difference you get when you have a live queer performer, who has enough power. You know, Elton John's husband David was one of the producers on the film, when you have queer voices who can actually participate in how the movie is made it gives you a less a somewhat less cartoonish, rendering of what queer lives are like my niece graduated this weekend. I saw it in my hometown a little farm time in northern California and seeing that much gay sex going on in my hometown theatre was like cool. Let us not behave as though this movie is, you know, completely chill with homosexuality. Basically, both inbetween rhapsody and this movie, the primary relationship that has shown is sort of a manipulative, bad gay, male relationship that takes advantage of our beloved hero. And it's something that I have seen in a growing number of works of art, about gay men's lives that they spend the whole time focusing on this bad dude who got him into drugs, and bad kinds of sex, and then in the end of the movie in KOTA, or in tax, we say, and then there was a good relation. Yeah. We don't know what that looks like did have that reaction to this movie too. And also guy, you said earlier in this discussion, he said show, not tell baby and the amount of gay sex shown in this video. It first of all it is a very, very, very quick cut away. It is this one relationship that is bad. And then late in the movie, Taryn, Edgerton says something along and I'm going to paraphrase for this family podcast. I had sex with everything that moved footage. Not found. Yeah. Right. You know, you don't really see him dating anybody else sleeping with anybody else, over the course of this movie at that point, all the sex really has been lighted, right? Right out of the film. So as queer as this movie felt, it still leaves almost all that stuff right out. Also, it's a movie about gay life in the nineteen seventies and eighties where HIV and aids don't exist. Right. That's also mentioned in the coda for the first time, right? Yes. Yeah. We referred to earlier Stephen the drug or g that is this, film's dream ballet. It's very artistically shot. But it is made to represent rock bottom, and has made represent the most degraded state of being when drug orgies our thing. People have gorgeous. And this is he does say an I enjoyed every minute of it in the movie. And I, I really liked that. I thought that that was something of a redemption from the cliches. Right. Exactly. It's an important point. Let's talk about Bryce Dallas Howard who plays young Elton John's mother doing an accent accent very hard. What'd you guys think I mean with consistency anytime I go to a movie and I say to myself, why is Jessica Chastain so bad? Later. I'm like, oh, it's priced. I was Howard, and she's essentially playing the same character that she played in the help sort of like an older version of a blowzy Gorgan of judgments smoking cigarettes. I'm this is a movie about Elton John. Honestly. You need to see the blowzy Gorgan that made him. Yeah. Absolutely. But I thought in a movie this campy, you really did need a mid century, diva to worship and of hor, yes. Exactly. Absolutely. That brings us to the end of our show. 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CBS Sunday Morning February 24, 2019

CBS Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley

40:38 min | 1 year ago

CBS Sunday Morning February 24, 2019

"Today's Sunday morning podcast is sponsored by prudential. What would you do if you had to choose between saving for your kids, college or your own retirement with the cost of a four year degree estimated to be over two hundred thousand dollars in eighteen years? It's a real decision. Many families must make at prudential. We wanna make sure your biggest financial goals never have to come at the expense of one another because financial wellness means planning for their future, and yours. Get started today at prudential dot com slash plan for both for dental insurance company of America. Newark New Jersey. Good morning. I'm Jane Pauley at this is Sunday morning. Oscar Sunday morning and honor of the occasion, we're off to the movies will begin where any aspiring actor begins by figuring out how to break into the business. You want to be in pictures, Tracy Smith will show us how it's done to auctions you either follow my rules or follow my rules compete. I do different this fun. Thank you. Okay. It's only a movie, but real life Hollywood casting is definitely not for the faint apart. All right. Well, I'll see you on the road guys. What would you say is the toughest part of the casting process telling someone that they didn't get a job. The Nettie it later on Sunday morning chasing Hollywood dream. Angie Dickinson found stardom more than half a century ago this morning. She's looking back with our Morocco. Few stars have ever had Angie. Dickinson's potent mix of talent looks and smarts to how's your dating life? Now. Get out. You kidding? You know, I am. I'm not going to be dating some young guy. She calls first Angie Dickinson, laying her cards on the table ahead on Sunday morning from there onto a station break at a chain of railroad rest stops made famous by an Oscar winning song. Michelle Miller has just the ticket. That can't oh Hieaux the Oscar for best original song in nineteen forty six wit to this. Johnny Mercer classic. Sand of Morial by Judy Garland in the Harvey girls. It's based on a true story. The had bravery to leave their small towns and travel on the train. These were unique women all aboard ahead on Sunday morning Leigh Cowen has some amazing face facts. Plus, Steve Hartman, Jim gaffe again and more coming up when are Sunday morning podcast continues. Aside. Your wanna be in pictures that timeless expression captures the longing of countless young actors in search of their first big break. Our cover story is from Tracy Smith. In Hollywood, it seems you never know when the next Oscar winner might show up. Europe flat. Of course, Marilyn Monroe never took home in Academy Award. But if you can take your eyes off of her for a second, you can spot someone else in this sees you did. George shakira's was a dancer a kid from Ohio who basically used his feet to break into the movies, including this spot in Maryland chorus line. Girl's best friend. I was one of the guys now. And did you have interaction with Maryland, though? She was very quiet. And when movie musicals themselves went quiet a few years later, she curious found work with the London cast of a hit Broadway show west side story. And then the rumors started flying about a film version. Remember, one of the things we heard was that the people being considered for the movie where the Taylor and Elvis Presley? So we thought okay, they're using bake stars. And but but one day five of us got letters from United Artists asking us to do tests to do a screen test. It was a fantastic day. We were doing our tests with a camera and a director, and it was you know. Wow. It was well all right after a screen test. Secures was cast as the Puerto Rican gang leader Bernardo acting and dancing in some of the most spectacular and strenuous scenes ever filmed. Could you feel yourself giving it your all how taxing was it? It never felt taxing. It's just felt good. Good enough. We now know for an Academy Award alongside co star Rita. Moreno amazing evening. Sit amazing. We have so much fun. But if the Oscars are the top of the mountain, you might say, these are the foothills the casting offices like exclusive studios on Sunset Boulevard are often would be movie stars. I stop Sabrina casting directors. Amanda Doyle and Chrissy fear. Really Ellington have spent years looking for that perfect face in the crowd. And they wanna see a lot more of those faces today. John movies and broadcast TV. There are streaming platforms from Netflix to YouTube originals, and they all actors who does that. I do. So it sounds it away like the chances of breaking into Hollywood are better today than maybe they've ever been. They are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's there's just a lot of work. There's a lot of work. And so there's more opportunities for a lot of people. Absolutely, okay. Come on in. We should say that TV news cameras are not usually allowed in an actual casting session. But they agreed to show us how it's done in real time and with real actors my name is finest Sanchez earler. I'm Sabrina though, Tom Eire's I've been for about twelve years. What? Now almost twenty years a long time. How do you pay the bills bartender, and as you'd expect the aspiring stars show up sign in and do their best for the casting director? And I'm heading down south. That's good enough head. It was much the same in Marlon Brando's day, but back then they needed a whole studio to see how. After looked on film and this get out of here. Every time. I come back. I got a break out. A now any video camera will do. Yes, I'm now living. My Hollywood dream still the process of putting yourself out there is as tough as it ever was. So maybe not quite as brutal as you might see in the movies, you either follow my rules or follow my rules compete. Bill. Thanks. Different way. When you guys saw that seat in LA La Land. Did you go? No, it's not funny anymore. No. 'cause we're not mean, really nights. And we want to create a release safe-space Gotti and the keyword today is everybody according to US's Annenberg inclusion initiative lead characters in last year's feature films were more diverse than ever with a long way. Still the good. But beyond talent and training and a thousand other things it often comes down to that mysterious. Quality commonly known as the effector. Terrance Howard had it says longtime casting director, really hard. I did hustle play with him. And he just skyrocketed from their Oscar nomination helps. Yeah. So I know the it factor is hard to narrow down. But you know, there are people out there saying, well, how do I get back factor? You know, what it is? It's a combination of being sure of yourself. I think maybe that's what it is. It's like a self confidence. It's like a self confidence without being Eka too. He said, and sometimes the casting choices so obvious. It can bring you to tears. Remember that kid from E T? Did you know watching Henry Thomas's? I issue for AT that he was the kid. I absolutely new in. It is to this day hands down the best addition I've ever been in veteran casting director MARCY Lear off was part of the team that cast Henry as Elliot. This is his screen test for directors Steven Spielberg. After you can't take him ways. When Henry shirt crying. We all started weeping. We're standing can't. Can't like this was so emotional. He likes it here. And you could hear Spielberg's reaction at the very end. Since you got the job kid. And it was it was obviously he was obviously the perfect person for the role. How often does that magic moment happen? Not very often. I know. Now, west side story is being remade. And this time the producers are looking to cast Latin actors for the Latin parts back in the day with the original. It was not Puerto Rican actors, you're not Puerto Rican Greek. Still George securest is grateful. He ever got the chance if you could boil it down. What do you think was the key for you for breaking into Hollywood for making it in pictures well enough to be on west side story who knows what would have happened. You know, if if there has never been a west side story, I would've still been trying to fulfill my dream. But that doesn't mean it would've happened there. You are and as secures pointed out after watching a group of teenagers perform recently, maybe the real it factor is luck are spending a lot of time in London, and I went to one of the drama schools, the graduation performance, they did a musical little me. Great musical every young person in that cast was wonderful. And I remember thinking self who in this group is gonna get lucky because you have to get lucky too. On Hollywood art form is all about face much to the benefit of stars. Like Romney Malik in the running tonight for best actor a standout performance. Lee. Cowan tells us with stand out teeth. Trite given his extraordinary musical talent to focus on, Freddie. Mercury's teeth. Gonna make a movie about queens, legendary frontman? Over bite. Can't be underestimate. I was born with four additional size of space. My mouth means more rain. On the red carpet Rummy Malik nothing like Berkeley. But his portrayal in bohemian rhapsody is so spot on. It's already earned him a Golden Globe, a sag and BAFTA. At times, it's hard to tell them apart. That's Malcolm left. That's the real, Freddie. Mercury. Right. Malik admits wouldn't've worked that the man. I'm sad about. It's the biggest tooth movie of. Is Chris lines dental technicians trades? We should increase the real dental work for people at his office outside. But he has a side business called fangs FX. Wolfman? Of course, they are. He's helped monsters in those months for sleep. Meryl Streep but set of Margaret Thatcher teeth take pride in being British. You kill him. And let me live till the swing got a mouthful of his work too. Did he helped Joan with go? Get those Winston Churchill like Joan. He created these two little blobs that clicked onto my back teeth. That's just swelled my faith, but also changed. My my diction. When asked to recreate, Freddie mercury's teeth. Worry the bitten off more than he could chew. When the offer I came it's pretty daunting in this particular case out of all the teeth done because these are almost like a character Kohnic said safe character from an iconic bend. I just loved and everybody knows for he's and yes, I was very worried. The story goes did want to change his teeth. Because he feared it might change the sound of his voice. Pretty your teeth. Why don't you get your teeth fixed? I live in Britain. I don't want to stand out roughly. Started off making a set of incisors the same size as mercury's. And when you put that in Rami, it was just too much. It was too because if you just become a typhoon cockatoo so lions kept scaling them back Israel Tayfun. The and then we rule them down this much these to the actual teeth Rami wool. He has ever. We're only the first bite in a transformation that make up artist. Jan Sewell and prosthetic designer Mark early had to finish. It doesn't look like anything, Freddie. Mercury. Just then have to dial that back, and then choose something that's going to just and we'll create an essence. Creating that essence, Freddie, Mercury. Go soon Volve a bit of a nose job. Pretty know. Shape across here. So we just we'll try that. And see if that works. Did that's Malik again on the left and the real Freddie, Mercury on the right? Alex free like nose was sculpted here at Cooley creatures FX Cobb place, where disembodied heads stare back at you. From almost every angle we did a face gas Rummy, but we also did this three D print of his head. When we scoped the piece we know it's going to fit in with these brands. There was that body here Burke Yousry often showed up starting with that ultra thin eighties. Mustache hit. If you could see it's it's fine, fine fine. And it's on a fine lace each head is individually. Not only extremely fine lace to do the the chest too. Yeah. Because he was just little client as Harry's for under our does that. So his these he can take credit for that. The final look all came together. The likeness was almost ear didn't come out as Rami then going to Freddie, he stumped. How Freddie just like this work? I think we've cracked. Oscar for best supporting t. Another big win for Romney Malik tonight. Doubt. It. All smart. That's Judy Garland taking a station break, a railroad station break one with its very own Oscar winning song all based on a true story. Here's Michelle Miller. Achier would as a brand hotel from a bygone era. Got a little closer to its doors. When the hotel was built in ninety eight. They were dozen transcontinental passenger trains stopping every day. All the train. Passengers would come rolling off the train. This is the entry way that come in this way, and they would walk through this door to get into tro- for Allan Affeldt restoring lot Castenada in Las Vegas. New Mexico is a labor of love. So this was the main dining, and of course, it was the biggest fanciest starting all of northern New Mexico. One of the last vestiges of a vast network of hotels and restaurants that once stretched across the south west all built by the Fred Harvey company. There are all these other hotel companies, right? The standardize things like Howard Johnson's and eventually helton's in heights, Marriott's and all that. But it Fred Harvey was the first one. Oh, wow. So this room is called this is the Santa Fe room, Diana Clinton. Is it Dosen at Lafond up in Santa Fe, one of a handful of Fred Harvey hotel still in operation every where? Where you see a city almost there was a Harvey house. Some of them may have been as simple as a lunchroom. Some of them may have been likes them a find a lunchroom a restaurant and hotel and impasse built by an immigrant from England who saw a need for good food along the nation's expanding railroad lines. I think he understood America better than a lot of Americans that at that time Stephen free book tells Fred Harvey story he was a traveling salesman for the railroads from. He knew how terrible the food was especially west of Chicago. I think he just felt that if he could do it. Well, that would change things he took his idea to the atchison Topeka and Santa Fe railroad, then the smallest of the competing lines. Fred Harvey said, well, if I have better food, maybe my railroad will win. And in fact, that's what happened Fred Harvey restaurant sprang up as fast as the railroad could build them with good fresh food. Food prepared by world class. Chefs good, China and white linen table cloths. You'd have London quality food New York quality food in the middle of New Mexico. How on earth were they able to keep that level that high a level of quality control the trains brought in fresh food from all these different places. They refrigerated at you can bring voices all the way from New York to Arizona top quality food that was served everyone at a time when that wasn't so popular when you're on the train. Everybody's on the train, all colors, all classes. Everybody says in the hotels when they're traveling everybody eats the trackside restaurants add to that perfect service provided by young smiling. Women in crisp white aprons who came west by the thousands to work for the Fred Harvey company. They had bravery to leave their small towns and travel on the train. These were unique women. Action in the dining room perfection dog. We even the section in the hobby uniform. They became known as the Harvey girls memorial is by Judy Garland in nineteen forty six. Comers with Dada. With a song by Johnny Mercer won the Oscar. Film that delights Fred Harvey's, great grandchildren to this day. Down the line. Kick a wreck in detention number forty nine. It's the only one that sound that way. They were one of America's first female labor forces and not is really remarkable the Harvey girls as they were called left an indelible Mark on the American west documentarian. Katrina park says the Fred Harvey company was a head of its time in giving women the opportunity to work and also to escape the strict confines of home. I see them as early feminists in some ways. I'm even though they wouldn't have perhaps identified that way. But would you say they civilized the west I wouldn't use that term. But I mean, it did they tamped down the testosterone. Sure. I think I q stay that. For sure. The Fred Harvey company also hired a woman to be their main architect, the brilliant and intimidating Mary Colter who designed many of Fred Harvey's grant hotels and invented what we now think of as Santa Fe style. I never saw my father afraid of much right Harvey's. Great grandson, Charles Daggett, Harvey junior remembers her well, even when he described the kamikaze attacks off of Okinawa. He didn't speak with fear. But we spoke, very culture. It was all for more than fifty years the Harvey company kept expanding developing the Grand Canyon and opening America's is to tourism. And the wonders of the west people get fascinated with America wanting to experience the exotic parts of the west that had to do with seeing native Americans to experience ever kinds of food to see a huge Big Sky out here, which is so amazing. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Harvey. How are you every year best smile? Fred Harvey fans, they call themselves. Fred hands here. Fonda gathered to honor the Harvey family legacy. I just want to welcome everybody here. It was a dinner prepared by Santa Fe's top. Chefs inspired, Fred Harvey's classic recipes. Here's a fun. You were tear tear the fifties. Among the guest Harvey girls, including twins, Beverly Burnett Nystroem just become. With the heartbeats since are part of history. That appears to be growing every year as more and more people rediscover the uniquely American story of Fred Harvey and the empire he built. Far from Hollywood Steve Hartman has the perfect nominee for best supporting performer. Takes real Tomasson's to make it on the US women's sled hockey team. But what sets thirty six year old Christie Gardner apart? And what brought us here to lewiston. Maine isn't her doggedness. It's her dog. This is moxie Christie service dog and her hero. She's absolutely been a lifesaver that literally quite literally dog saved my life. Christie an army that lost both her legs after an attack overseas to got moxie to help with daily tasks, but more importantly during her darkest days Christie says her golden retriever was the only thing that stopped her from ending her own life the way she would just look at you. Here is would go right through your soul. And I felt like I was disappointing her and so having her by my side was the only reason I didn't come shelf Christie is now much better. But she has felt indebted to her dog ever since feel like she deserves so much more. Unfortunately, there is no good way to repay a debt to a dog, especially not the magnitude of debt Christie feels. She owes moxie which is why instead of paying it back. She has come up with these sweetest plan to pay it forward. Meet tiny, Tim, he's not just any puppy. He's a puppy like her come back to Christie has taken Tim and his bum wing under her wing. And it's now training the pup to be a therapy dog. Linking on manners. Ideally, she'd like them to work fulltime here at Leeds elementary helping kids who feel broke show much about him. That is so perfect for this little mission. The his I think the kids are going to say, well, he had all these problems. And he didn't give up and look how happy is that before can be a certified therapy dogs. He needs a surgery to amputate his bad leg Christie had been working multiple jobs to pay for that until this assembly. Check for ten thousand dollars to pay for all. Vetere science a pet food supplement company made the donation delighting both trainer and trainee. Looks like that debt has been repaid info. Moxie saves. You you save tiny two and now tiny Tim's going to save the town. Pretty cool. Very cool, but also exhausting. Morocco. And I've got a brand new podcast. It's all about the people who have long fascinated me. The one thing they got in common. They're all dead. The name of brand new podcast mo- Pichu Aries from the twentieth. Century's greatest entertainer. He was everything. I mean, he could play any instruments. He could dance like a maniac to the founding father who just doesn't seem to get much respect. This guy did everything wrong. So there's no statue there's no signature on the declaration of independence. You'll learn new things about people you thought you knew aware that the day of your inauguration, Audrey Hepburn died. You'll learn about people who aren't real they did not have room in the writing for the older brother because the funds became the older, brother. So join me this premier season of mobile Aries. Something's missing at tonight's Oscars. Here's our Jim gaffe, again, there is no host for the Oscars this year. But my gosh, what is that mean? No host. That sounds like absolute chaos that would be like a horseless carriage or or an elevator without an operator. What's next a car without a chauffeur that would be certain death someone's going to die tonight? You people? Heck, I'll watch that talk about a national emergency. No most then means there will be no one to start the show the show will have no beginning and following that logic. No end this year. The Oscars may never end without a host. There will be no one to jokingly say near the end of the telecast, we're halfway through folks. No opening monologue, which people will criticize online for being way to Reverend or way too bland or the worst ever the Oscars are just going to be good looking people giving good looking people awards for pretending to be other good looking people. Thankfully, even without an Oscar host. There will still be the red carpet before the show where people in thousand dollar dresses will tell us to live more responsible lives. Most importantly, we can find out who is wearing who. And learn what people think about the Oscars not having a host. There's no host for the Oscars this year. Maybe it means nothing. But I think it's a trend. No host for the Oscars. No comedian at the White House correspondent's dinner, no cashier at those automatic checkout lanes at the grocery store. It's a huffy the robots are taking over these are troubled times. There should be a movie about that. I'd vote for that. Angie Dickinson, a star if ever there was one this morning. She's talking with more raucous for our Sunday profile. If you were a critic doing a review of your life so far. What would you say? Oh my God. That's one key bitch. Well, it's not exactly luck. That's had Angie. Dickinson turning heads. During a film and TV career. That's doubled. A minute before remembered at right, fellas as a half century long masterclass in the art of seduction. Did you enjoy being a sec Semple? Oh, yes. I enjoyed it. Very much. I wouldn't want to be known as only a sex symbol, right? I wanted to be known as an actress equally or even more. So like Marilyn Monroe. She was known as the greatest and rightly so sex symbol of all time. Try to do. Shakespeare after that, Angie was always more down to earth rough and tumble than Maryland. Get willing to go Mano Mano with a tough guide. Like Lee, Marvin do you consider yourself more of a broad a Dame or a gal? Oh, all of the above. She was born Angie Brown in September nineteen thirty one the s she's eighty seven in Culham, North Dakota population around seven hundred forty I grew up going to movies. My daddy was the projectionist. So we got in for free. And I loved movies it burned down. And we cried for a week on you cry for a week. Oh, it was I decided to give up movies for lent since of movies that are burn. That was your. So many memories of that. I don't think about normally after the family moved to California Dickinson found work as a secretary and competed in beauty pageants, which led to a spot on the Colgate. Comedy hour. Jimmy Durante was singing with Frank Sinatra. Is it? I was I said this is for me, she appeared in a bunch of TV westerns that in nineteen Fifty-nine starred in real Bravo. Opposite her childhood hero. John, Wayne, what that you? Love me. Arrest you? It means the same thing, you know, that you just went say it in my parents were Democrats, and I was a democrat. And John Wayne was that Republicans? Did you have some trepidation before you met him? Then I had trepidation about getting too close to him and ending up discussing politics, and I was afraid. That I was afraid I'd get to like him. And that would be a problem. Well, they did a play stunt men taught Dickinson to play poker decades ago. Well, the play was shut up deal. Okay. And she still playing I played for thirty five years with the Gershwin's. In nineteen sixty she co starred with the rat pack in ocean's eleven she ended up dating Frank Sinatra. We got very close to getting married in nineteen sixty four Sinatra's late night lifestyle. It wasn't for her. And he said, you know, I'm not gonna marry an actress. And I said, I don't blame you. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, and I actually didn't wanna marry him. So I didn't want him to ask me to marry him. 'cause I didn't want to say node Frank Sinatra. There have long been rumors that Dickinson and president John F Kennedy had an affair rumors. She's consistently denied. There was no reason or no grounds for thinking that I was seeing him. I wasn't. They can I just ask. Did he ever put the move on? You know, I said. I like it here. But in nineteen sixty four future, president Ronald Reagan did slap Dickinson across the face in the movie the killer. Which also starred John cavities. West. And my. Your chemistry with him in that movie. We liked each other. I must say do you mean that you liked each other just working with each other or that? There was no way. We we liked each other as men and women and as actors not romance. It's something in between. Right. Yes. Not fall into bed with each other. But it's more than just I like working with. No it's much closer than that. Yeah. Really really like each other. Like if things were different we'd go out. That's chemistry. Yeah. It happens on movie sets. You know, attractive people. In nineteen sixty five Dickinson, married. One of the country's most successful songwriters. What made you fall? Burt bak. Well, that's very hard to summarize. He was so different. They separated in nineteen seventy six was there a very happy period. Not too much. Not too much. He should never have been married in his autobiography back Iraq fessed up to his infidelity. He never loved me. I can tell you that right now the way one loves he loved his own way, which is not too good. And so he had no respect for me. Did you love him? Yeah. I liked him a lot. Yeah. Stars. Our park in cars. Nineteen seventy four Dickinson became sergeant pepper. Sergeant pepper Anderson on policewoman David Gerber was the producer. And he said don't you want to be a household name? I realized I wanted to be a household name. Is it true that there was a surgeon applications from women to join the police force? Yes. There was a surge and a lot of fan letters with that I became a cop because Dickinson became almost as well known for her appearances on the tonight show for chemistry with Johnny Carson was undeniable. I love movies, I love dinner parties. I love you. Platonic relationship, not a deep. Johny ever date. We did date who broke it off. Things happen, Angie. Dickinson has always been Frank in her opinions on sexual matters, including the topic that has roiled Hollywood for the past two years. Can I ask what do you think of the metoo movement? I hate it. It's all out of proportion. Like my hand. I say an open robe is not a rape. Listen, I'm sure men misbehaved. But. I wasn't there. Should we go? One more short calf Dickenson lives alone. Now in Beverly Hills. Dada. Nicky from her marriage to arrack died in two thousand seven. What are your best memories of Nikki your daughter? She was very smart and funny wonderful. So all the memories of her. My best memories. Born three months premature Nikki suffered chronic health problems, including severe eyesight loss and Aspar syndrome. If she hit me, she would hit me out of frustration of not being able to cope with whatever it was. What's your problem? She had no coping skill. So she just took her life. She couldn't take it anymore. Nikki was forty years old. She was wonderful wonderful gift. What do you think about when you look out here? I hope I never die. Really? Yeah. It's beautiful. Isn't it someday? I won't have this. But I won't. I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening, and please join us again next Sunday morning.

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AP Headline News Jan 07 2019 11:00 (EST)

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AP Headline News Jan 07 2019 11:00 (EST)

"I hate you with the rhinestone collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of grade to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash. Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low as three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance. Ask a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage is a division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS three thousand nine hundred one. AT radio news. Good morning. I'm Ed Donahue parts of California are recovering from some stormy weather. It is knocked out power in the Sacramento area near Los Angeles. Parts of the Pacific Coast Highway are closed. Heavy rain in wildfire burned areas. Produce bud running order. Planned flights that man spoke to K NBC TV some cars got stuck in the mud on the Pacific Coast Highway in the higher elevations avalanche warnings are posted in parts of California, Nevada and Utah. Meantime, Gavin Newsom, we'll be sworn in later today as the governor of California this day, seventeen of the partial government shutdown. No agreement yet, President Trump is still pushing for his border wall. We have a national emergency. Just read the papers declaring a national emergency would allow the president to get his wall money without going through congress Washington democratic congressman Adam Smith questions that strategy. I think the president would be wide open to a court challenge saying, where's the emergency? Smith was on ABC's this week ahead of Thailand's immigration police as an eighteen year old Saudi woman who stopped in Bangkok as she was trying to travel to Australia for asylum to escape alleged abuse by your family will not be sent anywhere else against her wishes to Sepe diva sentas is with the United Nations in Thailand, he agrees. The completion this decision should not be sent back as that would be case over for monk and wet best enough. Fetal could be the woman claims her life was at risk. If she stayed in Saudi Arabia supreme court Justice, Ruth, Bader Ginsburg is not on the bench today as the court meets to hear arguments. A court spokeswoman says the eighty five year old Justice is continuing to recuperate and work from home after doctors removed to cancerous growths from her left lung last month. This is AP radio news. A big surprise at the Golden Globe awards the best picture winner. Bohemian rhapsody. And Romney Malik was the winner for best actor in the film drama playing Freddie Mercury in bohemian rhapsody. Thank you to, Freddie. Mercury forgiving me. Lifetime. I love you you beautiful, man. This is four and because of you or Jeff. There were other surprises at the Golden Globe awards last night. In Hollywood, Glenn Close won best actress for the white. We have to fill. Dreams we have to say I can do that. And I should be allowed to do that when close played the spouse of a Nobel prize winning author MasterCard is removing the word MasterCard from the pair of interlocking red and yellow circles on its logo where it has resided for more than fifty years. I'm Ed Donahue, AP radio news. Hey, you with the rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human to upgrade to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized a new home was within. Reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low as three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance asked the home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage is a division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS Alrighty three nine nine hundred one.

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Sundance 2019 and Oscars 2020

Little Gold Men

44:26 min | 2 years ago

Sundance 2019 and Oscars 2020

"Hello and welcome to little Goldman and award season podcast from Vanity Fair. It's such an honors present this next award nominees. The group goes handy. And I can't deny the fact that you like me. Right. Mistake. Light. You guys won best picture. I'm senior writer Joanna Robinson. And I am joined today from remote locations by our digital director. Mike HOGAN pillow Joanna and from the snowy peaks of Park City. Our chief critic Richard Lawson. Hello, richard. Hello. We get a live and in person update from Sundance in this week's episode. I'm really excited to hear. Although what you've been seeing. Yeah. No, I'm obviously like mad from L stood sickness. So take everything I say with a grain of salt, but I have to say. It wouldn't be this report without a little bit about stewed sickness, but before we get into that which is discussing potential award season contenders. For next year. We still have some this year stuff to wrap up starting with. You know, we got we got a lot of more information a bigger piece of the puzzle. This last Sunday when the Screen Actors Guild awards were held the aired on TNT. We saw a bunch of actors go up and get their starts us, and maybe cemented some narratives that we've been talking about for the past couple of months. So I guess I will start with Mike and just asks or what was what was the narrative that you feel like most got set in stone by Sunday. Well, I don't know if it's set in stone. But I feel like Rummy Malik could win best actor, which I didn't really think was the case before this clearly, you know, the Screen Actors Guild members really liked that movie and gave him best actor over. Christian bale, Bradley, Cooper, Vigo Mortenson and John David Washington. So that's definitely a very good sign for him. And then seeing Glenn Close when made me think. Okay. You know, she's in a good spot and very well could win that Oscar for best actress for the wife, and then I guess maybe cemented is my notion that Marshall Allie will win for green books that seems at this point now fairly set in stone. Yeah. I don't think there's any question really about Glenn Close. Now. I mean, I think that not only has she had these two preliminary wins in the Golden Globe. And that second word, but she's given like good speeches. And I think that now everyone's like, okay. Like, that's what we're that's how we're voting this year. That's how it's going Glenn closest telling us a story, and we have to hear the end of it, you know, toward the NFL worry. So that feel certain mersal feel certain Rami. I don't know. Like, I feel like that. I almost wonder if Christian bale, and rather Hooper are splitting vote somewhere in Rami is the one. Third-placed guy who kind of comes out the Victor. And all that. Because like, I I don't I don't know. I I guess actors. It's just everything that movie's support considering that, you know, the Atlantic article that came out about rising, or I just I'm like what why are people holding onto this movie so tightly Richard night, both tops and like immediately on we'll not immediately on a on a time zone delay or Richard coming out of a Sundance screening, whatever it was to give our maybe kind of cool takes on the sag awards on Twitter and both of us zero in on the same thing, which is when was the window of voting for the sag awards as compared to win the Atlantic article on Bryan singer came out, and that Atlantic article detailing number of accusations from young men about Bryan singer's activities rumored activities, basically, you know, a known rumor for years and years and years came out two days before the sag voting window closed. So probably most people that are cast their votes by the time that article came out, and it's not to my mind. And you ear mileage may vary. It's not. Rami Malik should be necessarily held accountable for Bryan singer's actions, of course, not. But then the sort of the press he's been giving around it, which is just sort of a blanket. I didn't know and the absence completely of any acknowledgement of it in his speech on Sunday as both a strategy and one that I don't know if he's going to rub academy voters the wrong way rubbed me the wrong way. The point that I was making on Sunday was imagined. In actress the last two years getting an Oscar for Harvey Weinstein film and going up and not making any kind of aknowledge -ment of what that meant to some other women watching were anyone watching you know, that would never happen. And so I'm curious if his speech, you know, helped or hurt his cause on Sunday night. And I'm also curious, you know, as Richard pointed out on Twitter like how much conversations are just between us, and if they actually touch any of the people that are. Voting on these awards. Well, I'm going to ask a question did Kaitlyn Shet address the Woody Allen stuff during blue. Jasmine. I feel like that was her very successful strategy was to just float above the whole thing. She she she mostly that. She can order. Yeah. Yeah. And but I think even what was that five years ago. Like, even then that was sort of more permissible somehow it was pre- metoo. So yeah, that was a different a different era. I think yeah. That's just like it. It's kind of like my ex essential crisis this award season where I'm like, wait. The people were talking about not care about the stuff. We're talking about you know, like it's up in oblivious necessarily. It's just a kind of like they're just voting on different criteria than I think, maybe sometimes we're having these discussions. Well, I let me I have a little bit of color to add to sag. Yeah. To sag members. I'm not I'm not sure if they're voting members, but to sag members that I know who a certain age one of them texted me and said, we just watched bohemian rhapsody, and we absolutely loved it. And I was like, wow. Okay. I'm happy for you. And they're like, yeah, we smoked a bunch of weed, and it was so great. So and actors are probably I would guess more likely than anybody else to say, hey, we can't blame the actor for the actions of the director, and let's chat about the performance. And not you know, this other stuff that's outside of the sort of what's in the film's strictly. But then I also isn't there sort of a narrative out there that Romney fired Brian singer and kind of close quote, fix the movie. So he sort of has that going for him to right? That's the thing is like I think a lot of people see Romney is a sort of folk hero in the Bryan singer story in terms of like, he got Bryan singer fired. I think they're really two weeks left as shooting or something like that. When he got Bryan singer fired. Brian singer got fired for a number of reasons violating certain contract agreements that he signed off for a while. He went AWOL like all sort of stuff. But by all reports his treatment of his actors is not good and Rami Malik was just sort of like, it's me or him, basically. And with all this movie and the. Can what are you going to do? And so, yeah, I think there's a sense of the fact that Romney stood up to Brian in that moment, and the fact that he was fired. So maybe that's like problem solved. Sort of thing is maybe how some people view it. Of course. It's not problem solved. When Bryan singer already as is next project lineup is not problems album. Brian singers like on social media taking credit, even though he's not mentioned any of these speeches for all human rhapsodies wins. You know, if Romney Malik once again is not responsible for Bryan singer. If he would acknowledge what this means what this time means to not just a certain community. But like all of Hollywood like if me too important, and is then this is important because it is part of that. You know, what I mean in the fact that it's getting other just because I don't know that they're gay men instead of women as as your victims here is, you know, I think it's hard to watch. Especially in the context of bookie mean rhapsody, which is a story about like a gay icon like all. All of that is of a piece that makes it all, you know, really, really complicated. It's easy for me to get lost in in this sort of broader frustration in and then but the heart of better as I've I've liked to ride. Meanwhile, if as an actor for a long time, and it's not the end of the world, if he wins, you know, an Oscar for this movie that I don't think is very good. And I don't think you know, is directed by a good guy. So I I shouldn't like I guess freak out so much about it. It's just been an interesting season of disconnect, you know. And I think that maybe that's a kind of broader thing for for me to think about an other kind of pundits like ourselves if we want to call ourselves out to kind of think about it. And and and I don't know, maybe maybe I should be having more conversations with people who are actually in these goading bodies and and trying to figure out like where their heads are really at before. I kind of you know, predict certain things that don't actually seem to be in the offing. I think it was also really interesting at the sag awards that we had a weird supporting actress category because distill presumed front runner to win the Oscar Regina king for if feels streak could talk was not nominated. At sags for I dunno mysterious reasons in so it was like, okay. Let's who who's the who's the the runner up there is it Amy Adams for vice people. I think assumed that or maybe it's one of the actresses from the right? No, it turns out it's Emily blunt for a quiet. It was such a genuinely lovely moment that because as we chew over this narrative for months and months at time like by the time it, you know, the officers come around it's either like the expected winner, or like, you know, the person that or the second expected winner, you know, what I mean? And so for Emily blunt to be genuine surprise her genuine shock, John Christine, skis like shock and teary face as he watched early give her a war, which all seems like quite genuine to me. But what do I know? I thought it was a huge highlight of the awards. What did you think? Mike. Yeah. I mean, I I'm very happy about it. Just because I thought I love that film. And I thought it was innovative, and and she's fantastic in it on every level. And I and I do think at its. Best an award ceremony like this where you've got a guild of actors who are seeing movies, probably through a slightly different lens than certainly the press is or even the way directors see it or the way regular, folks. See it. It's fun because it highlights something. And it makes you think. Yeah. That really is an unreal performance incredibly high degree of difficulty, dealing with all kinds of restrictions in restraints, also dealing with kids and dealing with violence, and sadness and joy, you know. It was like it. You suddenly think? Yeah. Good. I like that one, you know. And so that's what's fun. And that'll be the only word she gets for this role presumably, but but she should be proud of it. It's interesting. You know, we we talk about Regina kings, still being the presumptive winner. And and that's how I was feeling, but I like to bring these little dispatches from Katie rich because I'm sure our listeners miss mishearing. Katie's insights on stuff, and she was telling me she was sort of watching the sags next morning. She was telling me that. I guess Chris Rosen who we've spoken about before front of the pod. What does this title TV guide right now? Well, I think he's the editor of TV guide dot com. Yep. Martini gun editor TV guide, Chris rose. And apparently is known for his wacky Oscar theories and one he has percolating right now is not the Regina kings going to win. But that marina de Tavira is gonna win and like for Roma. And that is I mean. I mean, that's what he says some of his theories thinks black pants is going to win best picture. Can we just roll out? All of Chris theories. Eighty five percent convinced that black man through win best picture. But anyway, let's hear the marina de Tavira one. Well, let me ask you quickly because Katie felt convinced. So my question is is Katie just too far out of the game and like easily swayed right now or has Chris are have Chris's wild traditions in the past come true will Katie is tending to small children under the age of three, you know, that's probably going to adult your brain so much. But no, I think the interesting thing about it is if you think about the sags, and you think about the Oscars in terms of you know, what got nominated for the acting prizes. The actors are the biggest branch of the academy, and they all voted to nominate two, you know, for the four acting categories and marina de VERA being in there for sporting actress represents, you know. Just a sort of broad support from the biggest branch of the academy sore Rona. So I guess the question is how broad is that support is there other support for her in other from other branches because everyone gets about on on who wins. But then you look at the sag awards, which is all actors and they're weird. Like, you know, they're surprising. And maybe that means that like marina day to there could be she could win even though she was nominated for sag award, which presumably, you know, the actress was should have been thinking in lockstep. I dunno. It's all confusing holidays seems work. But I like that theory, apparently, according to Chris he feels like there's a big surge for Roma that Regina not being nominated for the side means the huge, which is so funny because like all along on this podcast. I've been like it doesn't mean. But like, maybe it does I don't know Christmas entered my mind to anyway. Well, you know, what I think we're going to have to have him. I told them we're talking about this. And I think he'll. Come on next week. So we can let him explain it in full. Okay. He can he can defend his his ideas, Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission free. Well, other brokerages charge of to ten dollars for every trade. Robinhood doesn't charge any commission fees. So you can trade stocks and keep all of your profits. Plus, there's no account minimum deposit need to get started. So you can start investing at any level. 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Black Panther mission of his I will say this like if our idea after the Golden Globes is like speech kin earn you something, you know, then Chadwick bozeman 's speech, which I would Mark the highlights of this awards being in my opinion. The Ellen Auld attribute the Emily blunt surprise win and Chadwick buzzes speech for winning Black Panther, those remind highlights and like that speech at the end of the night. Which is basically the sags doesn't have a best picture, but they use their best ensemble sort of award to anoint best picture in their own way. Childhood buzzer speech about being, you know, to be young to be talented be- black is just was a very very galvanizing charming moment. The way he like didn't stumble too hard when Andy circus sort of popped into frame out of the quarter of his is that was all just like made you I mean me at home wants a Black Panther. Win even more than ever at the Oscars. So. My favorite sag moment was being on a shuttle bus in Park City with the zone. Nicole Sperling coming for screening going to VS that we had a party here with stars for a star show and on way to that. And looking at our phones and the coldest being like what? I think it was like Emily win or something like that. But I did go back and watch on YouTube. And I I agree. Joanna dot Black Panther moments sell so good in a year of kind of questioning, you know, wire things winning and who's winning what that felt sort of her fixed in a way, it was like that this just feels good. So I wonder if that kind of moment and Chadwick bows when giving such a great speech, if that affects you know, how people vote for us cars for me genuinely and I know on the comic book person, but like genuinely feel like such a good win because green book and vice in human rhapsody, and like all these other front runners feel like so there's just going to be so much debate and anger and frustration and and joy and like all of that meal together. Whereas like from where I'm sitting Black Panther. This is like a feel-good win. I think so I don't I don't know even blood clansman is going to you know, maybe create that kind of controversy on the other in the other direction potentially. Although I haven't heard that many people complaining about. Black klansman. Right. But Spike Lee is is generally kind of divisive guy. You know? I mean, you didn't mention Roma which would be a quiet kind of I guess crowning of an achievement. Right. And and we didn't mention stars born which oddly at one point seemed like it was going to roll through everything despite its flaws. But now, it seems like people are very focused on the flaws. So yeah, I mean, Black Panther would be definitely probably the biggest feel-good good win. I guess then there would be a big sort of cranking about comic books. Just absolutely taking over the whole world akin to the popular Oscar debate, but it would have won fair and square the actual best picture, which is which is different. I think so I was listening to another film podcast that I will not call out by name where they were. They were all in a twist because they feel like Infinity war was the objectively greatest marvel movie dot com. We've last year that's nonsense. I think Black Panther elevated L. A guy like infancy war for what it is is a comic book movie, but like Black Panther. I really genuinely think elevates the John Ryan Kugler, you know, is just like a visionary director. And so, you know, the site of the Pena Nieto bouncing around at this aga- awards with with excitement that they won is what I want to experience again on Oscar Sunday for myself. And I think I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, you know, far better than me. But to your point it's not just the Black Panthers, demographically different. It's a different take and tone and approach to a superhero movie that maybe has more in common with like avatar than Infinity war in some ways. It seems to me, you know, Infinity wears just like the apotheosis maybe of that type of movie, but this is a little bit of a different twist. I think for me the reason why Black Panther stands out of the other twenty two other marvel movies is not just because it's a predominantly black cast. And a lot of women are in in central roles. It's the marvel. Movie that really hones it's political discussion into something really interesting because it's about you know, the sort of long tail of colonialism, and and kind of American intervention in the Ryder world, and what that means. And you know, we want some reprisal for people who has been kept down. But also, what does that reprisal look like, and you know, Kanda has this kind of interesting conversation with itself without we have all this technology, but we've been very secretive about it. How much do we share with the world? How much do we owed the world? There's there's really interesting kind of foreign policy discussion happening in that movie that the other marvel movies, the avengers in particular has have kind of poked at but in a much more self referential. Like, what is the superhero mean kind of way? But I think Black Panther considers abroad or politics that. And I don't I'm not even like, I'm not paying to movie in in China, like pump up a superhero movies kind of politics. It really is smart on it. And it really does engage with it in an interesting way. So I. Think that's why in addition to the kind of triumphs representation at the movie is I think that's why it's connecting. That's I mean, that's how I genuinely feel there have been a couple of movies recently that have really capitalized on this. Thirst see representation on screen, and I would think like wonder woman increases rich, Asians or both films that hit that that Mark those are both films that I enjoyed but would never put in the best picture category. And so that's so Black Panther. It's not just about identity, politics or anything like that. I genuinely think this is a film that as you say, Mike, it just goes above and beyond in terms of storytelling. I personally felt that same way about Logan last year. You know, so it's not the first time to do this. But I think it is. You know, it has so much going for in such a likable cast and team and all of that. So that is the win that I am back to rooting for with like a director win for Spike Lee in foreign language win for Rome. You know, if I'm building my ideal Oscar, which will all have time to talk about later. On a as we get closer to the date. The other thing I want to talk about in terms of the sag awards as we saw, you know, the sagamore is usually operate famously without a host this year. They brought in the lovely mega Malala to host. I thought it was like a pretty much a mess. Like, I was like I I like mega Ellie, and I just did not need her there. It didn't add anything to the saga words for me. And so I'm wondering, you know, in in the countries with conversations we've been having about a host, Louis Oscars. What the construction of that? Like how that read to you guys did you? Yeah, it's interesting because you know, a show does have to have some kind of crowd control. You know, it has to flow in there has to be someone directing the transitions, right? And I didn't really watch the whole show. I kind of just watched like clips of Megamall alleys kind of jokes, which were not great. But it did make me wonder like, okay. So the Oscar No-ho said he has interesting because Mike you've been saying you open with a big song. Great that. That's that's your opening. I agree agree that that would be the strong way to do it. But, but then what how do we get from that point to the first award is there is like member of the years ago when Peter Coyote was like at this round desk backstage all the announcements that was so weird. Is it like one of those things where we just have someone some like voice of God being like a now, you know, maybe that works, but I do also worried that like the no host thing from the Oscars was not like a long standing plan that they really like honed and sort of worked with it was kind of. A last minute thing. So I think there's potential Oscars. Are this is what I'm saying? Well, I mean, everything has been a mess so far. Now, there's all this like anger and debate and arguing over the decisions to give below the line stuff during the commercials and Cinematograph pants now below the line, and you just think what is going to be in this show, if there's no host if you won't let three of the five song nominees actually perform if you're having all the below the line things not happen on screen like you're really setting the bar, so high that everything that happens on screen has to be absolutely fascinating. And amazing, and it won't it's going to be bunch of mostly boring speeches there. I just feel like this thing. It's shaping up. Really horribly. I will say one thing that I want to predict possibly possible prediction is that there's going to be some kind of surprise host or group hosting thing. At the beginning. I'm starting to think they're gonna bus. Something out and have maybe they'll bring back some pass hosts or something I think they're going to probably engineer some kind of opening number. I don't know if you can pull that off. But in the world of surprise, marriages and surprise babies and stuff I feel like a surprise opener is not unthinkable. Excellent. All right. So do you have any predictions about who you think would be in the surprise group? I feel like God. I don't know next week. We'll we'll come back to that. Okay. We should mention that we talked last week or so we can four about a potential campaign saves for for Bradley Cooper, performing places. And hey, what does he been doing lately guys? Now, I'm getting hubristic. I feel like I don't think Bradley or any of the senior people involved stars for listening. But I have a feeling some of the some of the people who actually make it all happen are listening and my fantasy is that they're going to their bosses telling them what to do, and they're and they're listening and they're getting huge raise. This is my this is my goal for all of you guys. I really like how many I got notes both on Twitter and other places of people being like, oh my God. Do you think Bradley Cooper steam listens to little gold, man? So let's all right. Let's see what what happened. Exactly. So Gaga was performing at at the garden. Was it? I don't know the venue, and then Bradley came out and did a Jackson main thing, basically and saying shallow with it. Right. And one point apparently air guitars and somebody said, you can really tell the difference. Clean jackson. Maine and Bradley Cooper because the air guitar would have been cool. If Jackson main had done it, but it was kind of dorky. I just think that like, you know, and Gaga was giving him this like, I don't know a God has decided to join us sort of treatment. It was actually like I found the clips very charming and compelling, I mean beyond the guitar minute. And he actually like sounded pretty good like, you know, it's hard to sing in a large venue with with monitors in your ears and stay on key. And all like that. And he did okay on his harmonies and stuff like that. And I think I think yeah. I mean, the the notion that we brought up I don't know last week or two weeks ago. Whatever it was is that last week that it was like if Bradley Cooper decided to try it decided to want to run he could still get this. And I don't know if that's still still true after the sag awards, but but then like immediately could still there. Right. I mean, right. Yeah. Because Rummy Rummy is there's issues with Rami starting with the fact that I think for certain discerning Sinophile types, they are going to think that that movie is not well. Assembled. And then I think something similar happens with I mean, maybe all three of the movies that we're talking about aren't aren't perfectly assembled but SARS born works officially that first hour. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah. So I mean, I have been team Bradley since I saw stars born like of all the best actor nominees. I actually would be excited like most excited to see him win. So, you know, if if he wants to like go on L, and again, and and be as charming as he can possibly be. And if that somehow gets him an Oscar, you know, at some point he's going to be like the Susan Lucci of the best actor category. Right. He's the nominated a bunch of time. So we'll we'll see or the atoms of every got a great Justice for Amy Adams some day men. All right. So is there anything else you want to talk about in terms the sag awards? No. I mean, I think that as a means of transition. I I'm going to say that, you know, we're joking about with Bradley Cooper's people listening to the podcast and and telling him, hey, you should get up on stage and do some some singing. People do listen to this. Like, I I've been now for you know, just I have a week. And like so many people have come up to me. Like, are you Richard Watson? I listen. I listen to little recognize my voice, and I'm not saying that just sort of like, I dunno brag or whatever it's just like Sundance. This is a concentration of like movie people, and you know, that we are being heard we should not take for granted. I don't think that's our target crowned. That reminds me of Cam tweeting Cameron Collins Richards, fellow critic tweeting, I don't know why people are saying no one's watching the wife. It seems to be on every screen on this plane that I'm on. And I'm like, dude, you're on a plane to Sundance. Totally. Yeah. The Sunday Express. I mean, I guess I could talk about TV. But I don't know we're so we're so far in the movie realm that I'm gonna leave the TV sag discussion for I don't know. Next time. We talk about a major TV ward, and I will instead pivot to asking Richard. What we should be talking about all ready for next year what Sundance films from last year's festival are still in the mix right now. Richard for this current award season. None really. I mean, eighth grade was kind of the big one that people thought might might be the holdout. This is the first year in five years that a Sunday has not nominee for best picture. There was some question about whether or twenty thousand with sort of, you know, corrects that that dead injustice, I guess for the civil I don't know that I've seen a best picture contender here. I wonder you know, if others might disagree. There's one big film called the stairwell that I have not seen that was a big hit and just sold to a twenty four for. I think like thirteen million dollars or something that maybe seems like because it's kind of a bittersweet family comedy with starring Aquafina and directed by Liu Wang, who's the second time director like maybe that could be one of those kind of moonshot Juno, kind of little miss sunshine best picture things. But I think otherwise this year's Sundance is more narrative about interesting performances, and maybe maybe those some of those will translate to to awards stuff in almost see your now. So what what's at the top of your list of things to point out. Well, I don't wanna shop you both. But I shocked myself by going to see a movie called big time at a lesson that premiered here festival on a Monday afternoon. And I loved it despite it being sort of like raunchy rowdy, and it's not really raunchy, but kind of, you know, very male teen comedy starring as sort of teenage boys older near dwell friend. An absolutely wonderful Pete Davidson, it is such a good performance. I was like what is going on? I tweeted out like who knew like, it's so good. And people were like really he really is like it it he plays. This kind of like he plays a version of himself before he got sober. Maybe were you know, he's kinda just like sitting around smoking weed kind of getting like mild amounts of trouble being sort of not great influence on his teenage boy who is the brother of one of his ex girlfriends. It's a really cute lived in story, and he just fills it. So well, it's just such a natural. It reminds me a bit of like, Tracy Morgan on that great show the last g where a sort of previously like directly sketchy comedy actor reveals that they're also really just a great actor end it. I don't know. I I was I was like totally blown away by investing. I think a lot of other bore to. Wow. Thank you next. Yeah. So like an indie spirit award for Pete Davidson. I mean, like, maybe I think more more likely he'll end up. You know, if I'm into New York Critics Circle vote, you know, ten months from now, he'll get some votes for like best supporting actor. You know, I think that that's as far as that will probably go he'll be on some like people's lists. But I I don't I think that the movie itself is really well-constructed written and directed by first director who used to be Nancy Meyers assistant, which is interesting. It's it's a little bit too teen maybe to to really connect and not in a teen way like lady bird or something. Although I was speaking with Kenneth Taran from the lawsuits a longtime critic for the Los Angeles Times who I'd met before. Which is nice thing that Sundance provides is the opportunity to stand in line and talk to people like that. And he was like I never go in for teen movies a migrant my grandkids are out of high school, and yet he also loved big time at essence. So so maybe maybe maybe there could be more support. For than I think I feel like these these like very charming Sundance teen movies are exactly the kind of Sundance movie that doesn't do well outside of Park City. Do you know what I mean? With with with some some colleagues last night is that comedy a so many Sunday. It's comedy is just like play really well here up in the mountains. And then when they get to see level over it was like, hey like meat, and Earl dying girl, Patty cakes which was a huge sales from to FOX searchlight two years ago that completely tanked. I mean, then you do have your Juneau's, and you do have your limit Sunshine's that that do go onto connects, but it's it's a harder equation. And I think another interesting story here from Sundance this year for those who care about like, acquisitions and stuff is what is sort of interesting market. It's been Netflix has not bought anything here this year yet, whereas Amazon has stepped in new Linus stepped in you know, sort of, you know, a couple of other more traditional players, and I I don't know if that's because they're trying to compete with Netflix or what? But there was a very big broad comedy that played very well that was sold for fifteen million dollars to new line called blinded by. The light. And it's directed by your indoor shot up made bend it like Beckham seventeen years ago, which is crazy. Yeah. And it's a coming of age thing in the eighties about a Pakistani boy who lives in Luton, which is kind of like dead end of industrial town outside of London who discovers music Bruce Springsteen, and it sort of propels him into a new creative life and that takes him out of his town eventually, so it's it's it's based on the the the the history of an actual guy. It's sort of a Trade Center story sort of thing, and it's all the spring, see music and it played like gangbusters here. People were absolutely Gaga over it. I was less. So I think the lead is really charming. But I think the movie itself has a lot of problems in terms of how it's constructed. But again, it went for fifty million dollars. But I just don't know how that movie plays when you're not in at in in the Ethel's theater with thousand doozy. Ask people if it has the same. Effect. I think that that you know, we talk a lot about festival fever. I think that's fever is strongest at Sundance of all the festivals, and it's especially strong, and it's a movie like that where people are tired, and they just want something nice and comforting and they want good music, and everyone goes crazy for it. But I don't know if that really translates to fifteen million dollars worth of of acquisition money, and yet there it is. So. Lied about the light out for it. It could be the next thing Streep or it could be the next me and early dining girl. I don't know. Can you explain to me what I was seeing in terms of like fake cockroaches? Being strewn about the floor of of a certain venue in Park City. It wasn't a certain venue with several venues. Okay. It was. Yes. So armee hammer who is a kind of a weirdo. Is in a movie called wounds, a horrible be with into Cody Johnson that I I'd seeing later this week. I think it's about a cellphone that sort of zest by somebody evil spirit, and it involves bugs somehow, which I'm sort of dreading, but Armie hammer had this like, I don't know pocket full of fake cockroaches that he's been strewing around the festival where. As a kind of weird viral promo for the film, and it's worked because you've seen it on Twitter. You know? Yeah. I have it works it permeated. Excellent. And then I think the other like big movie that I've been seeing people talk about is late night. There's been like I think a little bit of division at least in my Twitter feed. But you liked it. Right, richard. This is the Medicare billing film with a Thomson and that sold I think for thirteen million something like that. Yeah. It's great. I there are people who are like the jokes were to flat. This didn't work this club point, sort of doesn't make any sense. And you know, yeah, they're not wrong. I mean, it's not a perfect movie. But I had such a great time at it an Emma. Thompson is amazing in it. It's so fun to see her with this big chewy role to sort of tuck into and really make something interesting out of and many Kaley who stars in wrote the film, you know, she imagined this kind of alternate American time line where a woman has been a late night talk show host for almost thirty years and has kind of a weird career crossroad. And that's kind of fun world to exist in in. It's interesting backstage kind of thing about writers rooms, and it looks great. And it has good music. And I I don't know. I was so into it. And I think that something that may be a little bit lost in the discussion of that film both positive and negative partly because it is this glossy kind of thing. It's not a studio movie. It was it did enter the festival for sale. But it's it's kind of aping double wears Prada and other sort of big studio glossy kind of workplace comedies is that. It's a movie that's both written and directed. The directors Nisha not tra- by women of color, and even though it looks so traditional in behind the scenes, there is something interesting happening end past that, and the movie is this kind of gentle, I don't know almost prescription for how in the immediate workplace diversity initiatives could kind of come about in. It's less about. Scolding Emma Thompson character add more about opening her eyes to to broader possibility at end what she could stand to gain from including where people on her team. And so it's basically saying, maybe if you appeal to people's vanity, and and their own their own sort of like fear of relevance. Like, maybe that's right right now away to sort of get, you know, more people more different kinds of people hired a onto these things which I think is an interesting idea. And I like that a studio comedy or you know, kind of aspirants to be like that is addressing nut stuff. Mike. Is there anything that you've been hearing about from Sundance that you want to grill Richard on? Yeah. I want to hear about the souvenir. Just Tilda Swinton thing that you went for. Oh, yeah. It's great. It's an eight twenty four movie directed by Joanna Hogg who is really really revered in like the British film world, but I've never actually seen any movies. She made it will be called archipelago. She's she's worked with Tom hit Allston a bunch. So this is my first to win a hog experience. But it's it's really interesting memoir piece, it's really based on her own life as young woman in film school in London. And it stars Tilda Swinton daughter with Tilda Swinton, playing her mom, and it's a great debut performance. And it's just a really beautiful memory piece. There's going to be a sequel already in the works about the next chapter her life and the Robert Pattinson fans on Twitter are so intense in dialed in they were fading. My tweets about the this movie that he's not even in knowing that he's in the sequel to the plant. So yeah, it's nothing else. I've pleased the patents and fans by calling it the best movie at Sundance this year, which I really do think it is. All right. Well, is there anything else any other highlights that you want to hit that the Robert Pattinson fans can get excited for out of out of studying? Seeing it later today we record. It's Tuesday MC and suffer new and Alfred Woodard isn't a movie called clemency where she plays a prison. Warden overseeing I think like her thirtieth or something execution and so having kind of crisis faith about that. I hear that author wonders amazing in it. I'm very excited to see that I would love and alfre Woodard awards narrative this year, she's long overdue. She got back in the eighties. But it's been a long time since she's had that kind of recognition, and frankly, kind of lead role cured nightly isn't a movie called official secrets which is about the woman who was kind of the whistle blower about the the US British intelligence spying on UN Security Council members in the lead up to the war in Iraq. She's great net. Maybe that could be a thing. Oh, and then lastly, Annette Benning playing Senator Dianne Feinstein in the report, which is about the torture memo and the creation of that. And the investigation in into the US's, quote unquote enhanced interrogation policies, she's great in the role. She looks exactly like her. Well, you know, she still looks like her, but. But they get the hair, right. And it's a great supporting performance. But yeah. Otherwise, it's been it's more beneficial about like, please he stuff with less less less Oscar, which is fine. I guess maybe I did it a little reprieve from the Oscar stuff. Okay. So if you were to plant your flag, if you only get to pick one film or one performance that goes all the way to Oscars twenty twenty and I will hold you chew it. You'll be fined if you're wrong. No. I'm just getting who who do you who do you predict is it off we wondered sight unseen like what is it? No. It's defending his Feinstein. I think because because it's it's in a movie that is so righteously about something that like a rare good thing that came out of Washington in the last few years, you know, in terms of this report, finally seeing the light, you don't come to light, the public, you know, being able to to to see it about this really terrible thing that this country did not too long ago. And I think that helping her is the fact that not only is she playing realized person, which, you know, the academy loves, but also it's a Senator from California. So and the academy voters love nothing more than about stuff that's in their own backyard. So I think that can help it to I know that science is not, you know, a universally beloved figure, but you know, I think she should have enough support that people will like an bending playing her. So good. Yeah. She's pretty well loving, California. We'll say this like, I think I think this is one of those like national on the national level people talk about Dianne Feinstein, and they occasionally when she comes up for reelection. They're like, oh is this is some California finally gets rid of Dan fried seed, California's like, no. So I mean, not all up and down the coast. But you know, we we like, Dan we liked that. She's a senior member of the Senate, and I think you've hit on something there. So and you know, as long as Hillary swank doesn't make a movie this year. Then like, maybe, you know, an Benning will be we'll be in the mix year. All right. The last thing, I guess, I will urge you check out friend of the show from the pod. Joe read comes on every year. Just sort of talk about the things we thoughts Richards early Sundance predictions and all sorts of he has a podcast called this had Oscar buzz, and they just released their sort of immemorial class the two thousand eighteen video for this at Oscar buzz, and it is a treat to watch. So if you go to at had underscore, Oscar underscore buzz, if you listen to this podcast, you will really enjoy that video and all the all the films that we talked about over the year that didn't make it into the nomination crop Richard's until next week until you're back from Park City where can people find you in Park City. Just you know, suck at the theater watching movies. I met Rilo on Twitter, and I do have some reviews coming in from the festival. I also have a piece that I wrote for the magazine and kind of introductory essay to the Hollywood issue that is up. You want to read about me in the last twenty five years with Lou going into kind of a personal essay that I'm very happy with so. Yeah, go read that please. Yeah. And I mean, we should mention as we have not that the Hollywood issue of any fair is you know, has had its online release you will soon be able to buy it in stores. It's got just a really glorious cover, and I think people really pleased with the Hollywood issue. This year is my favorite Hollywood issue. We've ever done. So I'm really really excited about it. You can find me reading that over and over again in my home or you find me on Twitter at Joe wrote. This find me on Vanity Fair dot com. Mike is Mike underscore ho in Katya soon to join us again is at Katie rich soon ish, we're all at little of open, but the Twitter account to think is a little bit more. But. But that's fine. Yeah. We'll blow the dust off at little Goldman. And we should welcome. Our new producer editor Brad Fuchs. Who's doing this episode? We'll do hopefully many more to come. We were sad to lose Daniel Roth. 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Bohemian Rhapsody I Exit Survey (Ep. 94)

The Big Picture

30:20 min | 2 years ago

Bohemian Rhapsody I Exit Survey (Ep. 94)

"Just. I'm Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big picture conversation show with some of the most dynamic front men in the history of rock and roll just kidding. It's staff writer, rob harvey'll. Rob welcome to the big picture. Hello. Thank you so much for having me, it is an honor. Rob you're here because we're going to be doing something maybe not weekly, but every few weeks called exit survey, and if you arena of the ring dot com, you know, that exit survey is a convention. We used to talk about new movies, sometimes TV shows video games things like that things that are relevant in the culture where we have sort of snap reactions over the weekend. And this makes a lot of sense on podcast as well. And we are here to talk about bohemian rhapsody, which is the number one movie in the country has a lot of Oscar buzz. And also, I think it is fair to say a bad movie. Rob would you agree? I would tell you the most electrify moment. And this movie for me is what I was walking toward the theater. It was theater eleven and I pass theater ten and I heard the beginning of the shallow scene from star mourn. And I instinctively just walked into that walked up far enough to see the screen, right? As like lady Gaga is going. And I just I cried I watched the whole thing I walked out of that theater and into theater eleven to see bohemian rhapsody that was the best part of the movie going experience spec. This will be not the last time. We talk about stars born is truly a rock and roll fall at the movies. Let's start here. Rob what is your relationship to the band Queen? You know, I can vividly. Remember the bohemian rhapsody seeing from Wayne's world like sitting in the theater. Without washing over me. You know, However, I was like pre teenagers at that point or whatever. And so I I wouldn't call myself a Queen superfan necessarily like I'm not one of the people who can tell you. What songs here are chronologically out of order? But I I haven't turn allies thirty to thirty five Queen songs just by living in America for the past forty years. And so I was I was super high for it. And I was prepared for what seems to be the party line. Which is that Romney Malik himself is awesome. And it's awesome. To just listen to thirty Queen songs really loud in dark for two hours and the movie itself stinks. You know? But that doesn't matter because of all the other stuff, and so yeah, I I was prepared for it. You know, and it it met those expectations. I had a similar reaction. Let's just set some of the key talking points of this movie moving at fifty million dollars over the weekend made one hundred forty million dollars across the world, which is a lot for a bio pic about a. Band whose music we like, but maybe we don't really care about that band anymore. I haven't had a conversation of Queen and fifteen years twenty five years. I can't remember the last time I mean, and I ten years ago in bars in New York, we're not shooting shit about, you know, their third record not as I have a call. But you know, those times are hazy, I suppose probably are well, they're growing increasingly hazy. Speaking of hazy, the production of this movie sounds like it was difficult. It was directed by Bryan singer sort of who many people know is the director of the usual suspects and some of the x-men films and also recently was accused of sexual misconduct by a number of people. He is a controversial figure in Hollywood. He also is known at times for disappearing from his own sets. And that is something that he did here. He said to attend to the health of his mother and some personal health issues of his own. Nevertheless, that sounds like that frustrated Romney, Molly is at the center of this movie and people were brought in to finish the movie it's impossible to. No for us. What singer did what Dexter Fletcher who was brought in to do some of the work on this did it's really just hard to parse because the movie is not I don't think the movie is messy, necessarily, even if the storytelling is a little bit messy. It's just kind of drab and predictable. Is that fair to say, I think it is. I mean, it's sort of moves in that standard bio pic way, you know, reading up on all that stuff like the production. What I was really struck by talking about the Sasha baron Cohen version. Yes that was supposed to happen that was in production. And like he wanted it to be like this really really are rated hedonistic like Wild Thing to just go full bore until like the total rockstar element of it. And basically he clashed with the surviving members of Queen about it, you know, and what finally bought that movie to a halt is just the members of Queen were in having you know, and just getting the sense that do you want that movie, which would probably have been a better movie or do you want the actual Queen songs? You know because you can't have both. And so yeah, the element of the production. You know, the calamity for our many ten years it's been that. Really interested me was just the movie that almost was or you know, Lissa posed to be that would have been very different that would have been better in some ways. But would have been worse. Just because Queen wouldn't the band self wouldn't have gone along with it. And you wouldn't have had the actual music, and it like do you want a good movie or do you want bad movie with tween saw? Yeah. It sounds like that film would have been directed by Stephen Frears who obviously made dangerous liaisons high fidelity has a real affinity for music and also high drama that would have been a good movie would be my guess this as we say, not a good movie, and it's interesting bad movie in some ways, I think it's interesting that you noted that the band would not really give the rights over to the more debauched version of the Freddie Mercury story, and you can really feel the thumbprint of the ban on a lot of these scenes because there several scenes in which people all four members of. The band look at each other and say, we're just a bunch of outcasts pseudo fit together most. So we fit together we are all the, and it's like, you know, most people even though Brian May is an incredible it's Horace Roger Taylor, very gifted musician the fourth name, I don't remember those those for musicians were incredible together. Bohemian rhapsody lives in dies by Freddie. Mercury. He is the centerpiece the centerpiece of the storytelling here, and there is a lot of effort made toward making sure that everyone is included. Now, I will say Queen is unique among some bands like this in that all four members actually wrote songs and all members had actually written hit songs. So there's some reason for that kind of democracy among the storytelling. But in general, I found myself being like why are we spending so much time with Roger Taylor? I don't really give a Roger Taylor. Did you feel similarly? Yeah. I mean, it's sort of by default. It's forced to be an interesting depiction of a band amick. Like, you never see that. Like these movies. It's always one person just imposing his will on everybody else, and they sort of bound to. And it's it's true that you know, off or members wrote saw Brian man particular is very important. But like, yeah, when there's a scene where John deacon literally stops like a band argument in the studio by playing the another one bites the dust baseline, that's the rats baseline. And then they play they record the song. Like, yeah. Like, the other stipulation that this arriving ban members had clearly was that it beat a picked it as a band that? They'd be depicted as characters as important people. Like, I think there was a line vaulted like this big rundown of, you know, the Sasha baron Cohen version and Sasha baron Cohen said like he had a conversation with somebody in the band, and they're like, yeah. What's great about this movie is, Freddie? Mercury dies halfway through it. And you get to see the band carry on without him in such baron Cohen. That's terrible movie. No one's gonna go. See that movie. People wanna see Freddie Mercury. That's all they wanna see like it's interesting to see all that back story like still taking, you know, still being fought out in the movie that you're actually wa. Watching. Yeah. And I think ultimately is finally truly, Freddie, Mercury movie. We didn't get a movie where he dies, and then a former American idol contestant takes over and things for the band is Adam Lambert has been doing for the last ten years. I'm interested though, like for somebody like you who is really adept at rock history, and is good at seeing the big picture of this stuff part in that pun. Does it matter to you? If the facts are straight in a movie like this. They don't have to be absolutely correct. You know, you don't wanna be the guy in the theater liens like actually, fat bottomed girls was recorded three whatever. I don't don't be that guy. Yes. Good note. I, but sort of reading up on this, and like the people who notice ban really well like it's they start fudging a lot. And by the time you get to Live Aid. The the entire way Live Aid is portrayed as like they broke up which isn't quite true. Like they hadn't played in several years, which isn't true, and they reformed just for Live Aid. And that was their first show in forever. Like, none of that. Apparently was true. I don't think it's known exactly when he found out he had aids. And when he told the band that he had aids, but it almost certainly didn't happen. The way the movie says it happens like, even it was such a minor thing. But watching the actual Live Aid seeing like the thing the thing inside the phone banks where like nobody's calling into Live Aid. Like everyone's looking worried, and then queens starts playing everyone starts calling into live Ayla, just the insinuation that Live Aid was saved entirely by Queen. It's like all right guys. Like settle down. Like, it's I I think there's a line in spectrum in this this movie, especially late starts to cross it the facts all the facts that have to be right. But I think that the little inaccuracies the tilt toward myth. Just it all starts pile up, especially toward the end. Yeah. We should note. The Live Aid was a concert that also featured performances by Led Zeppelin Elton. John Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Phil Collins, like this is probably the biggest concert ever is that fair. To say. Yeah, I think that is fair to say see I mean that was the best performance. That's at the end that we're still talking about it. I don't think you you can say that without implying that like Queen did it single handedly. One thing. I can say though, undeniably, and we're not really spoiling anything. But the Live Aid scene comes near the end of the film, and it's sort of the day Newmont. I thought it was definitely the best moment of the movie. It's this long extended twenty minute almost shot for shot recreation, the band's performance a moment like that make a movie like this worth it for you. Absolutely. I think. Yeah. It's while this morning. I was rewatching the actual Queen Live Aid performance. And like you say the shot for shot thing. I'm really curious. You know, once this comes out on DVD or just streaming or whatever like, there's always people on YouTube when they take they take rockstar picks, and they lineup footage like they do split screen of the movie, and, you know, live footage of the person the movie is about, and I'm really curious how exacts, you know, the movements down to Freddie, mercury's like movements like where he is on stage during Live Aid because just to sort of eyeballing it, you know, like all the Pepsi cups and the beers on the piano and the way like fiddles with a knob on a speaker. Like right before he starts when he blows a kiss like just just from what? I can tell like I think it's as close to exact as they could make it like every specific detail of that scene. Very specifically. And I'm curious how exactly got it. And like, yeah. I mean, it's enormously effective, and it's just sort of a relief for twenty minutes or so that there's no light dramatization. And there's no explaining how they wrote the song like there's no cheesy bio pic aspect, you know. It's just them performing, you know, and yeah, it's it's incredible. And I you know, I think that's the bulk of what everyone loves about this movie, and what will bring people back to it. Let's talk about Romney, Molly, he's going to be probably nominated for best actor, this is a really interesting role and performance for him. He's obviously best known as Elliot from mister robot, which is a very interior performance. People might have seen him earlier this year, they'll probably not in a remake of the Steve McQueen movie poppy own he also has a has a very internal performance in that movie. He has an internal performance in the master. You may recall but Romney, Molly has never done. A character this big and this crazy and larger than life. What did you think of what he did was pretty incredible? I just the physical Ness just down to the teeth and just the cheekbones sort of the way carries himself just as a pantomime as an impression of a human. Like, it's really it's really striking like immediately. I was trying to decide the moment if it bothered me like the lip synching the obvious lip synching. But first of all, I don't think you're going to get like a competent actor who can actually sing. Like, freddie. Mercury. Like, Bradley Cooper would say otherwise. Well, there's a scene in the movie where specifically lip synching is bullshit. We're not doing that. It's good comparison for this movie. I was watching scenes from walk the line this morning joking. Phoenix dry cash movie. I have to tell you that that I don't believe that as aged. Well, that film tell me more. It it strikes me as very cheesy now, and he is obviously singing, you know. And he's he's doing. Okay. But he's not he doesn't sound exactly or enough Johnny cash like he just sort of sounds nauseous all the time. It's okay. It's okay. As an impression, but I think I watching bohemian rhapsody like in the end, I was I was grateful that they just did the lip synching because I think it helps a performance when you don't have to worry about that aspect like you think about Chadwick bozeman and get on up like he's he's not singing the James Brown parts. But like the ways dancing like you. Absolutely. Do not care. You know, that he's not singing, you know, I think just letting Romney focus entirely on the physical aspect, you know. And just just the look of him. I think that was a good idea. And like, yeah, I mean, far and away. He's the best thing about the movie down to being, you know, the only thing about the movie. Yeah, I agree with you completely last week on the show. Amanda Dobbins shared that. You gotta sing rule as a reason to maybe hold this against Romney Malik. And I I agree with you about walk the line because I want to hear Johnny cash sing. I don't wanna hear Joaquin Phoenix thing. I don't care about. How lucky Phoenix? Him. I doesn't the same way that I wanna hear somebody to love by, Freddie. Mercury. And I wanna hear killer Queen by, Freddie. Mercury. I don't wanna hear you know, Romney Malik mediocre advocation of Freddie, Mercury performance. I wanna see that. So I don't I don't have that same logic. As far as whether the success or not, you know, one of the things the movie does is and this is a tried and true tactic as well. It shows us a couple of different times. And you mentioned the another one bites the dust example of the band writing a song in real time. And obviously quite famously the titular song from the movie is recreated at length. There's also just a lot of you know, Queen songs in general their their live performances that are rendered. There is a lot of songs in the soundtrack. Is there a Queen song that they didn't play here that you wish they would have focused on a little bit? I don't remember. It wasn't a movie but under pressure. Yeah. I don't think was in the movie enough. Like if there was a scene if I wanted to say another. Of them recreating a song in the studio. It would have been that one just to see who they got to play David Bowie. You know, I think that that's sort of a top five Queen song in the popular imagination. And it's in there somewhere. But it's it's not giving the same, you know, making of focus as you know, we will rock you bohemian rhapsody, and like I sort of I don't think that those scenes which are pretty cordy all things considered like affect my affection for those songs. But maybe it's better, you know, that they let under pressure sort of slip under the radar a little bit there. You know? So I kind of pressure is the one that got short shrift, and that may have actually been for the best. Yeah. As I recall under pressure was recorded in Germany. I think with Bowie while both, Freddie and Bowie were going through some experimental health issues, and I suspect that's one of the reasons of why it's not depicted. But that's actually the reason why it should be depicted. Right. And it, you know, Freddie, mercury's life is very interesting. He's obviously has this complex representation of sexuality that I think the movie kind of struggles to accurately or sincerely adapt and focus on and I think it actually might confuse audiences. Similarly, just his life his identity as a man is is is confusing. You know, his parents are immigrants. He's from England. He's always trying to affecting new persona. He's a shape Shifter in many ways. I guess does it matter if those things are blurry or wrong, you know, you mentioned sort of his diagnosis of HIV. And then when he told the band, and I think what's going to happen is this movie is already really popular. And this is going to be for an entire new generation their entry point into Queen. It's canon canon. Is there something kind of itchy about that that this is now the way that we know the Queen story, even if a lot of that stuff is either wrong or sort of ill told. Yeah. I mean, I think the peace Steven Hyden row for us wrote for the ringer about Queen about this movie about like, Freddie, Mercury in real life Ursus this movie. I think that was I think that was really good, and it's there's a really complicated relationship. This movie has with the heat in his unlike the standard arc of a bio pic is like the band gets big and get really heated as scenario party scenes nudity and drugs, and then there's a big comedown afterward. But in this movie, like the hedonism is the comedown like the hedonism. Is the dark part like it's never sort of depicted as this joyful sort of revelry. You know, this is what a rockstar does. This is what a rockstar is supposed to be this is how they're supposed to be h-have. They're supposed to behave badly into behave flamboyantly, and it seems like from the beginning. Like, that's the part that he was shamed. Of that's the part that, Freddie. Mercury. Never actually enjoyed while. He was going through it like he did it because he didn't wanna be alone. Like, it's what you know. I think the part of the, Freddie Mercury is life in art at this movie sort of screws up is sort of depicting his hedonistic phases. As these terrible, you know soul killing things that he didn't really enjoy like, you know, I feeling that's not quite accurate. Let me ask you something. What do you think about what what? Mike Myers is doing in this movie. I saw Mike Myers his name in the credits. All psyched, try and find him. And I watched that entire movie without realizing that that was him. What? I had no idea that was handed. God I always shocked ashamed of myself. Frankly, when I realized that later that entire seeing, you know, they'll scenes in the dude's office, like I I was focused on Freddie, on just this the sunglasses and just sort of corneas in the staging and that sort of a standard bio pic for shea. You know, as the loser record executive who doesn't get it. You know and says like really obviously bohemian rhapsody will never be a hit song. You know, it's sort of that mad men style like super revisionism like, you know, the whole preppy bit is the way that we're looking back on it now. And we know how stupid these people were specifically. I had no idea that that was my Myers. Yeah. It's a very strange choice. I mean, obviously circles us back to two wins world in in a sweet way. But the character of the name Ray foster, that's not a real person. Right. He's loosely based on ROY Featherstone, the the real life record executive, although ROY Featherstone was. Famously very supportive of Queen though is on the record for having some doubts about bohemian rhapsody. So it's kind of just like a meta joke. That's really the only reason he's there or to create the sort of false sense of drama with you know, the sort of us against the world dynamic that the ban thrives on in the movie. I wrote about Mike Myers earlier this year. I just don't really understand what. Mike Myers is doing with his life and career and I love Mike Myers. And that's why I feel comfortable saying that I just between the gong show. And he made a quite terrible film earlier this year called terminal gonna watch that I don't watch it. I mean, it's really confusing thing to have happened to both Mike Myers and Margot Robbie, you know, he wrote a book a couple years ago about Canada. He's just I on the one hand appreciate his willingness to be free and to do whatever he wants creatively. I think that that's fantastic. But every time I see him. Now, I'm sort of sad, I'm sort of an and even a little frustrated with the gong show. You weren't supposed to know. It was him. Well, yes. And clearly he pulled a festive on you again. Yes. Yeah. That seems to be what he wants to do now being things without anyone realizing that he's in things, and I guess if you're that famous for that long and that prominent for that law that idea is very attractive to you. You know, the rock the superstar actor in winter who just wants to sneak into things have no one even realize it like, that's that's how you get off at this point. If you're Mike Myers, I guess I kind of understand that. Because Myers idolizes Peter Sellars bright, Peter Sellars, one of the geniuses of Peter Sellars is every movie would be starring Peter sellers. And then he would transform and you'd be like, I don't know how he does it he transformed again as opposed to Mike Myers who was literally movies. And you're like, I didn't know that was Mike Myers. Right. That's a ludicrous thing happened going too far there. Yes. He may have rob just for context. What is your all time favorite movie that has the shape sort of rock bio pic? I don't know spinal tap counts, spinal tap down. Definitely absolutely spinal tap, you know, if it has to be a real life thing movie. I really loved was the runaways. Oh, yeah. Kristen Stewart Dakota fanning. Yeah, I made it, and it's you don't watch that movie for a second look at those people in sync that those people are thinking like I'm going to win an Oscar for this as you can tell walk the line was like that, you know, bohemian rhapsody to a set is like that. Like, it's the runaways is pretty trashy and pretty sort of lurid and not concerned at all with accuracy or good taste or any of those things. But I do think that those are attractive qualities in Iraq bio pic, especially of the band, the runaways like, I think you want a certain kind of ambition, but not necessarily total. Accuracy ambition not necessarily award show ambition. You know, I think that movie particular just found a nice little middle path. Yeah. I agree with you. For those who haven't seen that Florida's Monday, this talion filmmaker woman made that movie, it's really quite good. There's also a very good, Michael, Shannon, performances. Kim Fowley the sort of angel devil of LA rock in the seventies. Which banned deserves a movie like this. What's what's it been having? That was the first thing that kind of crept into my mind when I out, you know, I feel like they're too over exposed the number of movies already made about Kirk cobaine. But like Nevada somebody's gonna take a shot at this at some point. Right. I was looking at last days the Gus van Sant film, which is sort of lured in its own way. It's like, basically just Michael Pitt is staggering around his house like it. It's actually I think he's not actually Kirk obain. But he's obviously, you know, playing Kirk obain figure, and it's literally, you know, the last days of his life like there's there's no vile pick shape or there's no shape to it at all you figure at some point someone's going to take a shot at a pretty conventional. You know, childhood stardom Nevada thing you too. For this like van Halen has potential just the number of characters, you know, and just to try and cast, you know, David Lee, Roth and Sammy Hagar guns N roses. Someone's probably gonna do at some point with L Gorz that elgar guy is going to be axl rose are going to try to be axl rose. And it's going to be Ansel Elgort. It's going to be great. I swear I wanted to say the talking heads myself. So that's probably you know, a personal thing. That's that's a really good idea. You just you you really scrambled brain with Ansel Elgort as axl rose. This might use coming apart in real you're gonna be you're gonna be talking yourself into it. I won't be promise. You. Later this or I suppose next year Taryn Eggerton, he Kingsman fame will be portraying Elton John and that movie is actually directed by Dexter Fletcher who finished this Queen movie. Oh, well, and Terron is singing. He singing the Elton John song. No that looks quite poor. So I'm not. Who knows it could be wonderful. Actually, you know. It's funny. I I was thinking about this too. Because Queen is this sort of perfectly memorialize band in our minds. You know, the songs we will rock you as has woven itself into our DNA and rhapsody to these become like. I know karaoke jams for life. Right. And we haven't had a movie about like the Rolling Stones. Right. We're the Beatles. These bands that the members are still some of the members are still living in their protecting their legacies. And they're not letting them be rendered in this way. And I mostly that's because they don't want to bohemian rhapsody made about their lives. But I mean, the Rolling Stones particularly feel so perfect for any number of individuation stories, the recording of exile or Brian Jones's death or any number of things that they could be telling why do you think that some of the highest level classical stars, you know, Michael Jackson? Prince you talked about nirvana, which she was very unlikely last as told the way that it is because the state wouldn't grant them access to the cobaine life story. What do you think is keeping those people from from letting stories like that happen? I think the same thing you mention that for a new generation now bohemian rhapsody is going to be the Queen story. It's going to be verbatim. It's gonna. Cannon. It's going to be assumed to be more or less true. And it's obviously the surviving members of taken care and have scuttled other projects, and like this is the depiction of them in a Freddie Mercury that they wanted. But I think if you're if you're at a level of the Rolling Stones the Beatles. Like, you don't want anybody else involved in this process. Like, you you don't want. Anyone else? Shaping your legacy or deciding for like, a new generation of listeners of fans, like what your band was what you ban was like, what your band means what your band stories were like, you think back to the stories about the Beatles. The Beatles rock band saying, you know, the video game where they made an entire game where you could play Beatles songs scene where Yoko Ono is sort of in the studio with video game makers, and she sort of she's telling them exactly how things have to be in how John Lennon as portrayed, and it's like at that highest level the level of control that the surviving members have over their legacies sites that I don't think they're gonna share. For that at all. And so you literally are waiting. I Rolling Stones to die for there to be any chance of a movie like this. And you know, the Rolling Stones are never going to die. That means this. It's never going to happen. You know, you're just you're gonna have to settle for the real thing. The only thing that's nine are the old ways. Speaking of I'm very interested in this thing that's happening right now. So obviously we talked about stars born it's top of this show. There's a movie coming on December called vox Lux, starring Natalie Portman in which she portrays a rockstar, and there's this movie three makes a trend. Of course, you and I came out of the media days of the early aunts. And I'm trying to figure out why Rockstars are a good vehicle for movie stars. And why these movies have a little bit more resonance particularly in a time with savior, Greta van fleet's. Right. There's just not a lot of Rockstars. What do you think is going on there? Why has this been transferred to the movie world? Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, rock is dead, Sean as we say and various print, you know, various outlets for twenty years now. There's Elizabeth moss movie to write her smell smell. That's right. Yeah. Ross perry. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's just a matter of you know, there are no Rockstars anymore. And what Ross stars we have. Are you know, aping former Rockstars to such a perverse degree? You know that they don't register as their own people. Like, yeah. I mean, I guess movie stars have decided that you know, in the absence of any real life Rockstars, they have to create them themselves. You know, Jackson, Maine is going to be a more resonant, you know, a real or figure as a rockstar than like any actual musicians in two thousand eighteen like just for some reason rock is actually now dead. The notion of Iraq star is actually dead. Like, it's weird to think that, you know, the Queen forty years of Queen you know, and Queen had a big revival with Wayne's world movie, which was in the nineties the early nineties like this is this is such an old band. Young people today have pretty much no context for it. You know, other than maybe, you know, doing the greatest hits on Spotify or whatever. But it's just rocks rockstar is such an outdated idea. But still such an alluring idea that, you know, I guess, you know, actors Hollywood has gotten it's. Head like, they alone can keep that ideal live. We have kept it alive with this podcast. Rob thank you so much for doing this. And you may your bohemians always be rep sonic. That's very sweet thank my route. Like.

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Oscar Predictions 2019

Popcorn with Peter Travers

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Oscar Predictions 2019

"Yeah. Hi, everybody. I'm Peter Travers. And welcome to this special Academy Awards edition of popcorn, you know, Sunday night. We're going to find out who wins after all these months of debate who's going to win who's not. And I'm here to tell you who the favorites are need trace, and who might be the spoiler who's going to be that one that just comes in and surprises us all. So let's start with the category of best supporting actor and the nominees in this category are Hershel I'll lay in green book, Adam driver in black klansman. Sam Elliott in stars born, Richard E grant, and can you ever forgive me and Sam Rockwell in vice so the favorite in this category. I think has to be Marsha Ali of green book has been popular with actors with all the branches this year. It's some controversy about it. But Marsha ALI'S performance puts him in line. To win his second. Oscar remember how he won a few years back for moonlight. It's a great subtle performance. And I have no arguments with this at all. But if there's going to be a spoiler, I would say that spoiler is Richard E grant in Kenya ever. Forgive me. This is the kind of performance at team to come out of nowhere. His co-star Melissa McCarthy is nominated, but Richard E grant is her friend who helps her in these forgeries is both funny and heartbreaking at the same time. He's never been nominated for an Academy Award. There's just something about that performance that stays with you. So if you're betting person don't forget, Richard E grant now we moved to best supporting actress Amy Adams in vice Regina king in if Beale street could talk marina de Tavira in Roma. Emma, stone in the favorite and Rachel vice in the favorite. You've been hearing me all year talking about Regina king. And that if anybody deserves to win an Oscar this year, it's Regina king in if Beale street could talk she's playing a mother, basically fighting for her future son-in-law's life. He's been falsely accused of a crime. He didn't commit and she's got to do something that fight the legal system. But what she does in a scene that I think cements her chances to win. This is go to Puerto Rico and find the woman who's falsely accused her son in law day and confront her mother to mother this scene is so heartbreaking that it belongs in a academy time capsule to me. This is something I'm rooting for critics aren't supposed to route. I'm rooting for Regina king. But if she has to lose a lot of people are saying, well, Amy Adams and vice you know, playing Lynne Cheney. No, I think the surprise here is going to be Rachel vice in the. Favorite? She's already won an Oscar for the constant gardener. But in terms of the British Academy awards where she's considered the favorite to win there. There's something about that performance in the favourite, which is nominated for ten Academy Awards that stays with you for a long time afterwards, it's strong. It's funny. It's also malicious at times and maliciously funny. And I'm saying you betting people out there, you risk-takers. Don't forget Rachel vice. All right. So we move now to best actor we have Christian bale and vice Bradley Cooper in a stars born will devote in at attorneys gate Rami Malik in bohemian rhapsody and Biegel Mortenson in green book, here's this movie called bohemian rhapsody. We're Rami Malik who I'm calling the favorite to win. Everybody thought this movie was troubled from the beginning. Critics weren't really crazy about it. And you know, what the public said we love this. We left everything about what's happening in this movie. And we love most what Romney Malik does as queen's, Freddie, Mercury. Finding the heart and soul of this character and coming out of seemingly nowhere the movie itself. The one that wasn't supposed to make any money at all. Because it's director was fired during production has now made coast to a billion dollars at the worldwide box office. And why it's the performance of Romney Mollica spreading mercury it just explodes off the screen. It's put him as the guy who maybe would get nominated to the guy that's probably going to win. Okay. So who who could be a spoiler for Romney Malik, and that has to be Christian bale in vice here, he is playing Dick Cheney and when Christian bale won the colden globe for this performance. He thanked Satan as inspiration for playing our former VP. To George W Bush. It's a clever performance funny performance. But it deeply felt performance. He gained fifty pounds to play it. He had makeup and prosthetics. So that he looks exactly like Dick Cheney you kind of lose Christian bale in this. And what happened last year to best actor was Gary Oldman playing Winston Churchill where you had to go knock knock is that you in there. Gary is that you he won, and I think Christian bale doing all this. Plus being a naturally gifted actor is that kind of threat to Rami Mollica. So you've got your choices here. And now we come to best actress and the nominees are Lisa upper reach yo for Roma Glenn Close for the wife. Olivia Colman for the favorite lady Gaga four stars born and Melissa McCarthy for can you ever forgive me? Here have to say that gun close is the favourite. She's been nominated seven times. She's never. One. And she's giving a career-best kind of performance in this movie. She's playing a woman who basically has been living in the shadow of a man in this era of times up what could be more timely and to see Glenn Close dig into the role is just amazing. But who does she have to beat to do this who's the spoiler? And that has to be lady Gaga in the stars born there's a lot of controversy about the movie that it hasn't won a lot going into this. But you don't see this movie and not fall in love with what lady Gaga does in her first starring role on screen. It's a terrific performance in every way, not just the singing, but the acting, and I think if we're talking spoiler territory, Mark this one down this is the closest race of the night. All right. I'm going to go to best picture now. And we have eight nominees and they are Black Panther black klansman bohemian rhapsody the favorite. Green book Roma a star is born and vice all right people. Usually there's like two people in each race at the Oscars the favorite spoiler. This is a year where anything can happen here. Remember back just a few weeks, maybe a month and a half ago where stars born was gonna win everything. And then suddenly people decided the movie didn't exist every ward show came and people said, no, this is not happening anymore. So now in this anything can happen world, the favorite would have to be Rome. But Roma it's Al Fahad Koran who should be winning best director without any trouble whatsoever. But Al Fonsi Karan's movie is a Netflix movie that caused a lot of controversy out there where people were saying isn't Netflix for TV? Well, yeah. But Roma played in the movies. For awhile got the best reviews of any movie this year, especially from me, but his there and. Animus against Netflix for being a television commodity streaming commodity. It's never happened before that it could win a best picture. Netflix is pretty new to the world. Also, a foreign language movie has never really won the best picture prize. So it's got that going against it. So what's out there? Now, what could beat it? And I think there's three things that could beat it. I mean, look at these you have over here green book, which is the kind of huckabee'll movie that the academy loves it teaches a lesson about race and understanding that they're really responding to and spike Lee's black klansman, Spike Lee who had until now never been nominated for an Academy Award as best director. I know it seems absurd back in one thousand nine hundred ninety to do the right thing. I thought that was the best picture of that specific year the kademi didn't nominate him. Now, they did. And they're making up for some loss. Time by doing. Can he go all the way maybe and then Black Panther, which I'm gonna put my risk-taking spoiler money on. Here's a movie that the Screen Actors Guild decided was the best acted movie on samba acting this year. Usually that goes a long way in terms of influencing the academy voters if Black Panther should win best picture, it's the first comic movie to even be nominated. Can it actually win when none of the actors were actually nominated for acting in its verb strange thing to win a sag award. And there's Michael Jordan, and Chad bozeman and a cast of women that did spectacular work can the academy. Look at itself and say can we make a difference? Can we choose a movie this time that actually says something about the culture will living in that actually looks at the black community and children who look at this movie and say, I see my? Self on the screen for the first time history can be made if Black Panther wins history can be made. If Spike Lee finally gets the do that he deserves and history can be made if Roma actually wins foreign language movie that nobody has ever done in ninety years of the Oscars foreign language movie has never won best picture. So it's a wide open race out there. I'm still betting on Roma. But if I were really risk-taking guy, I would say Black Panther this time. So look you have an Oscar race like, no other. It's going to be fun. We can sit down we can laugh at all the people we can say how could he win? How could she win? It's going to be fun this year. And I can't wait to join you in sitting at home and saying. Right. 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Homecoming to America (with Jennifer Kaytin Robinson)

Keep It!

1:15:42 hr | 1 year ago

Homecoming to America (with Jennifer Kaytin Robinson)

"If you guys don't know jemele hill, you really really should. She can be seen tweeting at the president with some hard truths that he does not like, she's also a sports expert a political junkie. She's a social media BS detector. And did I mention she's funny as hell is true now Jamal has a new brand new Spotify original podcast called jemele hill is unbothered every Monday and Thursday, you can catch her and her two co host Michel Arsenault, heart heart, heart, heart heart and Cole Wiley with their insightful and entertaining hot takes on the day's top stories in news, sports, politics, music, and other important issues. Like, why the best parties are the ones you sneak into the podcast guest list will also include some of the biggest names in culture, and entertainment. Listen now to Djamil hills unbothered for free only on Spotify. Get bothered. And we're back IRAs and Cleveland. We did. Yeah. We got rid of him. It's lose my holding it down with a very special guest Miskelly Carter of the undefeated of of years of celebrity coverage and and working hard. Thank you. I'll take all of that all of actually working to. But I'm very happy to be here. You weren't working too hard last night, though. Exact opposite of brain. It's hard. I was at the adventures premiere last night. Yeah. So that was a lot of fun on. My best advice is don't drink. I was gonna say anything for you. It's like almost three and a half hour. No more. Yeah. You feel like it needed to be that long. It's not know, it could definitely be true. It'd be I mean, but I will say this. I mean every scene that you see is so essential to the film that you're not gonna there's no running out to like p right quake and run back in. Yeah. That's my biggest thing especially because so many of these superhero movies. I like seventy percent. No what's happening anyway. And so I feel like if I leave I'm gonna come back, and it's like I'm going to really not gonna on Batman. I didn't even know. When I watch these movies. I'm constantly forgetting the stakes. I'm like, wait. So is this one it's you know, what I keep wanting to call him theranos on my mind. They knows same rate like snapped his fingers and a race. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. And although I have to say so the whole concede. He's like supposed to be sort of an anti here. Like, he the the world is overpopulated. And so he's like, we don't have enough resources and shit. Right. Isn't that part of it? And so he's like I'm getting rid of the Philly. He's just a dick. I mean, you know, what I mean? Because I I don't know if it's the the resources because remember us not even from earth. That's what I got. He's from lying. I don't know. What's I thought it was something like to save the universe? There are just too many people. So he's he thinks he's helping by getting rid of half of them. Right. Although couldn't he just have made another planet. He had all those rocks. That's what I feel things the Infinity. Logical. They truly are. But I mean, the film the film is great. I liked it a lot. I think that if you are a fan of films like this, you will there will be some type of emotion that you will feel that said the woman sitting next to me I wanted to be like girl. What funeral are you? She crying bawling know full out and the avengers following give injures I wanted to be like, what bio-pic do think. This is not real like, it's so not real they're like skeleton aliens walking around zapping shit. Like, yeah. Not real Honey girl, but she was balling. I mean, I ran into people afterwards. Who are like oh my God. I cried I chewed up late four times film. Like you did like I have have you seen Philadelphia? I'm gonna have you watched CNN. Right from that. But I'm like, okay. That is that is pretty bunker. Yeah. I'm in this movie. I stand I think the only person in the movie I really stand though, I m coming around on this Tom Holland figure gives he he's Spiderman, but my real favorite is Elizabeth Olsen. Does she anything to do scarlet witch? I I'm not going to give away. Anything is remember in the last film? She was one of the Zad away. Tell you something. So when I watched the whatever the vendors was before this, and I went like on a Tuesday when Tom matinee I like to get a bagel, and then I'll go to the movie like eleven AM, right and at the grove, and so I'm watching it. And so all of most of them. I know like, I know Spiderman I know the guardians of the galaxy. And then they got to Paul bitney. And which is this going Elizabeth? Yeah. Pub any just hasn't got rock in his head. And he's read, and I was like, I don't know what your powers are. And then Elizabeth Olsen. We'll just go like room and like show shit would fly from her hand. And I was like I don't know what that is. I don't know is that like fire like, I don't know what that power is. I mean, she's like like a witch with some fire, and it will. She had her own movie. Did I know she has that's not fair. There should have been a although that movie is very long a brief intro into when she put her hands up and things there was like late from it. I I don't I don't throw blurb on the screen. I'll papa. Yeah. Can that kill me? Actually, this film could've used some video. And I mean, again, I've watched every matters, and marvel film or whatever. But even in throw I mean, we were we were those black people at the movie theater talking throughout the entire raise. Like, or what are you? What are you say? And then my my friends should be like, okay. So remember end the twenty twelve film when so-and-so whisper I'm like, I do not. Of course, I went ahead and live. I don't. So this this movie could have benefited from a little pop video action. Dow, well, the last movie, I I don't think I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna go ahead and go on the record say, I may credit the avengers. But an a movie that I saw recently called someone. Great. I did cry with that. And we have the writer director. Jen Robinson on the podcast today. Sometimes goes by Jennifer Robinson, which threw me 'cause I refer to her as gen the the lead character in the movie. Gina Rodriguez plays Jenny right? So a lot. But it was it's very sweet we will get into that. I'm very excited. I teared up. I loved it. Yeah. I loved it a lot actually in not because it felt like my life. And we're also going to talk about unfortunately, George Zimmerman on the other side of love who we stay on. Who is getting hit off some dating apps for being a piece of shit. If you can believe it will figure. We will be right back. Easter came early last week when Queen be blessed us by releasing not one but two major projects. I was homecoming her Netflix documentary, which documented the preparation of her Coachella sat last year, she officially turned Coachella in to be Chela, by the way, it's not bay cellists beach. I'll say people can we finally all get onboard with that. She also released a live album of the performance. Beyonce's the first black woman to headline the festival since it began in nineteen ninety nine. It was a performance that highlighted black culture paid homage to HP you specifically those are historically black colleges. And was I'm going to say one of the best live performances in the history of live performance. All time -absolutely sustained exhilaration. I mean like for the most part she really picked up tempo songs, but for I mean, just there was not a lull. Even when she like went off stage in their axiom between it wasn't annoying. So in the in the. In the documentary, one of suicide, it's the I'm sure you've seen it by now, if you're listening to this are you worried about it, you get to see the whole Coachella performance, and there's some incredible editing between the two weekends on. Which one also made me realize the precision where like you can't tell the difference between the two weekends other than that her hair and the color ain't costumes are different. But also the preparation that went into it. They did eight months of rehearsal for the show, and she they started with her choreography with the music, and they go through just how they looked at everything from the concede to what we finally saw. And it was just an unbelievable achievement an enormous amount of work on her part on everyone's part. And really, you know beyond say as is very selective about what we get to see. And this was you know, obviously still edited in chosen and all that. A very spot. It is the most that we've seen and like I think it was really seen how hard she works. Like, we can see your performances, and you're like, wow, it seems like that was very hard. But this is the first time we're like you're seeing her like give notes on lighting, you're seeing her give criticism and make and make selections on should that. You probably did not think she had any thing to do with like immaterial the risers on her show. And you really understand how meticulous and excellent. She is what she does. And also how explicit she was about the intention of it. Like, I thought she kept going through I want, you know, people who normally don't see themselves on a stage like this to feel seen and she talked about how she always wanted to go to HBU, but that Destiny's Child was in fact, her college experience, and by the way, I mean, not that this needs to be stated, but when Kelly Michelle appeared in both sets of outfits, I think, but they really like did give me life. They just so felt like her actual sisters ought of like coming here to be like. We're still obsessed with her. She's we know she's like the Queen of the world and we still effing lover. And the three songs they did were the perfect trio of songs for them to do angry. You know, I thought this was actually really generous beyond say this whole documentary. Not that she hasn't been giving before I think, you know, the HBO documentary should definitely gave us something that we don't normally get to see. But even at that point. She wasn't the beyond say that she is today when she did that. So what I really loved about. It was when she said the day that she gave birth to her twins. She had topped at two hundred eighteen pounds, and then from there, she basically takes you on this journey of her getting back to you know, because homecoming, obviously, it was his double entendre coming back home to the stage like how she really put in the work soul cycle. Dancing eight hours a day in two thousand calories a day like the quest for perfectionism. But it made me because I feel like we kind of have elevated beyond to this goddess like status because of course, but it made her very human to see her in these. Wants to hear talking about breastfeeding or trying to become figured how to become a mother of a six year old and newborn twins and a wife and a pop superstar and so on and so on and so on I really loved that. She gave us the human sides for south because we have done this not she has done this. But we have elevated her to an almost untouchable. Yeah. Type of status. And so that's one thing that I kind of really walked away loving about this documentary, and she talked about to her pregnancy was very difficult and feel like one of the things I think that hopefully people have been talking about more specifically black women in pregnancy. And we are like two hundred percent times more likely to die than white women when they give birth, and it doesn't matter if you have money or not which is the fucked up part of it as we remember what Serena Williams, but she she had high blood pressure. She was giving one of the baby she said, they're heart his his or her their heartbeat stopped. And so she had to do an emergency c section and so she had major surgery and then her coming back to get. To where she was physically, and it felt like to me she showed that too because it's not just you know, when you see her like in an outfit, and like, oh, the body looks good or like, she's going vegan because she wants to be thin or the other like she is performing for hours at a high level in singing, something that most of almost no one is doing that. There is pretty much no one who has seen at that level and dancing as much as she's doing, and that is stamina, and that's something you have to be in shape for that something you have to train for and all of those dancers. It's like you realize like, oh, this is this was a lot of work. And so I didn't take. I know there were people were just like she's talking about ninety eight food. I while she was like, I'm hungry, and she wasn't like recommending the side. But it was like, oh, she does that for a reason. Yeah. That's a lot of work. And it's not it's not depriving herself. Because for vanity reasons, it's depriving herself. Because that's that's what athletes have to do. That's what like that self. That's discipline. Absolutely say about the kinds of VO. Locals. She was capable of doing and live. Okay. This is bizarre reference work with me. Do you? Remember the pussycat dolls song buttons in the middle of the song. Sh they can they be can't you see? And it's like these like kind of like, I'm very saucy vocal. Remember when I heard that the first time thinking, I've never heard like Sassine est expressed that way before beyond says specifically the past two albums, but really most of them. I really think she finds new ways to like express sauces or sexuality that are like funny or like witty or strange and real like, you know, think of the way she says a billion dollars in the elevator things like that that she can then reproduce that live while doing the most complicated robot is batting. Yeah. Airy crazy is it's not new stuff. It's stuff. We haven't seen from her. That's just like very black swag. Right. That's what that is. Right. And I'd seen beyond say who's become more. Like, I I walked out of that documentary. I was like no one loves black people northern beyond say, let's laugh people like you. Actually, we saw together we said of that's me. And we walked out. This woman loves black people. And you know, the question Lewis when you watched it did you understand because like when I saw when you see her when I saw the drumline. That's when I was like, oh, we're going there because I know what the drumline is. And then as soon as you saw that big band. Yeah. And the hoodie, and you know, in the end the end, the Greek letters you were like, oh, we kind of knew where she was going. I'm wondering if someone who I assume you're somewhat less familiar. Yeah. Yeah. If when you were sort of understanding where she went or if it took the documentary to really grasp the reference, oh, well, as you know, I went to Spelman. So. No. I mean, she eventually explicitly stated oh growing up. This was the highlight of my year seeing these bands like this. But no, I didn't really know of it as like a specific like black cultural thing, you know, for me. I mean, she said that she wanted people to feel seeing that don't normally feel seeing and I felt that in several different ways. My dad went to an HVAC you undergrad he pled. She's an alpha. So, you know, cheat like a kind of a probate show a coming out of sorts when you are kind of underground secretly pledging fraternity, and I loved it so much because I would often be dragged to classics or step shows battle of the bands over the years, especially when you grew up in the mid west because the highest concentration HVAC us are in the south and southeast. And so they would come to like, Indianapolis, Detroit, Chicago and put on these grand battle of the bands performances. So that the people who had relocated can go and kind of relive that. And that was such a big part of my childhood, and culturally that was something that everything's giving. We go to the Turkey day classic Montgomery. Alabama. And I love that she really kind of used this as a teaching tool to not only showcase something that is very specific to African American culture. And in some cases, southeastern African American culture, but also to educate people who don't know what probate show is. We don't know what battle of the bands is or the major at send the drumline. Like, I thought it was so well done I think one of the things that she's very deliberate about is making black arts seem artistic like in that you're going to understand the artistry behind with these people are doing when you see a drumline. And I think that was part of what the documentary was was like, you may think when you you know, like, I, and this is this is maybe a racist person or someone sort of ignorant. But like, I do think there are people that are like well black people know how to dance and so when they see them dancing. Well, they're just like, well, they know how to do that. Right. And it's like, no that takes work and training, and is very difficult. And so there's a lot of what she does where it's like, you think it's something that. Just you know, part of it is there, and the culture, but I she use you see it as something that's like an actual art form in a way that a lot of black. Art does not get treated that way. Did you have specific favorite moments because I think here's where I met. This is like my main takeaway, I think from the most show, I don't think you can argue that get me bodied as anywhere below her top five, I think it's like an essential. That is always been when I was I was ever at a party, and you could tell they were playing the extended version, right? It was like oh, have you? Honestly that part was so great because remember salons came out. And that was I almost felt like we were seeing what it was like for the two of them growing up together that song. Yes. Yeah. And when they like dance and the kind of ball together and laughter at the end. I felt like we were watching like a ten year old and a thirteen year old beyond saying salons back in Houston. Like, that's kind of what it felt like to me getting a little sneak peek throwback look at that. I feel like I have to separate my favorite. I think my favorite moment was just like it's that everybody mad breakdown, which is just like one of the now, most iconic dance. Yeah. Moments that we have. Yeah. Like, it's just it's so good. And it's also her just being like, oh, I can dance. And and if you notice in the documentary when they have her, and she's like, you know, ninety four days postpartum or something like that. And she goes for her first rehearsal for the show, and that's the choreography they're doing. Yeah. So that was something that was like day one. And she knew she wanted to either use that song. Yeah. And it was something that then you realize like, oh, she's been working on that for eight months. So here's the other thing too. And this is probably super nuanced and super specific. But you know, she talked about how her daddy went to Fisk. She grew up watching this her dad also is a member of omega psi five attorney, and she literally stepped the way that the Q step. And that's to me. It was like she grew up seeing her dad's fraternity step in this very specific way in it's all in the facial expression to and that's literally what she did in that performance which again, it's super nuance. But I thought it was so great because of you know, the different styles of how different fraternities and sororities step and move. Then you got that like a mmediately, and I thought that was so dope. But my favorite part. Actually, I think was seeing like some of the thick plus size girls people. I love that. And like Alabama state. They have this line of dancers caught the honeybees all plus size women. Who when they come out there in the middle of the halftime show and put on a show. They I think they had a reality show for a minimum. They shut it all the way down and it's great because it's body positive. And it's just awesome. Also, there's something about beyond say doing a to any older style of dance that is immediately novelty, for example in the get me bodied videos. She shouts out rich man's fruit. Which is a dance directed by. Bob Fosse that when Vernon did which was just recreated on the show Fosse Verdon and in the single ladies video, she does a part of a number called Mexican breakfast. Which was also danced by Gwen Verdon when Verdon is like a red haired white Tony winner. But when beyond say does these moves one, it's an image. But to see those moves come out of her. It's a completely other thing. Now, you know beyond say as an interpreter she so naturally amazing that we forget that she when she chooses to sing anything or when she chooses to dance. Anyway, it's like well now she owns it in a cool way. And now more people get to know about this fucking amazing. Right. I'm also at a point with her after this documentary one it's just like when you realized how long they'd been. Working on it. How hard she worked. I feel like it's one thing of her music is not for you. But I will be God, damned if anyone ever says some shit about her not being one of the best performances ever had because there's so many people that still like to be those just like, contrary contrarian. Yeah. Just like, well, she's not that great. And it's like I mean, she is you don't have to let them because she she's above is. And and everyone knows it and like all of her peers. No, it you know, what I mean. Like, you don't hear you don't hear people who were good at what they do who were great musicians, enhances whatever like brushing their nose up at her. Right. I mean, like they are all just like, no, she's incredible. And I think this movie I think after this. It's like if you don't get it. You'll never get it. And like that sucks for you. Because it's incredible heart agree. I mean, she's definitely in the conversation for being the greatest of all time. And I think this movie is like the pen, and that conversation will the other thing is you realize how she's what thirty seven. Yeah. Like. She's so I was gonna say man, she she mentioned being twenty two years into her career just for comparison twenty three years into Elvis's career. He was dead. Damn I'm saying it's like and by the way, she's not in her fat Elvis day. Now, she, you know, and I think Q one of the things that that comes out to when beyond say does something as you see in particular, you see black women just so happy. And and I think a lot of people use that to try to put water on it because God forbid, we're happy about something. But the right, but the thing about beyond saying also, I think I've wrote about this when I wrote about a seat of the table, what's the laundry's album is they really make you feel seen in a way that a lot of other artists. Either donor haven't been allowed to and so with homecoming it was just this like ICU to black people. Like, I see I feel you. I'm with you. I love you. I respect what you do. And if you can't relate to that. It's just like, I don't know what to tell you. And that's why she inspires the emotions that she does. Because we've you don't have anyone at that level who looks at black women. So specifically, and it's just like, I'm you, and I'm with you. Absolutely. Don't have anyone. Nope. Thank God for beyond say Lor or thank beyond for Beyonce's statement, thank beyond safer beyond saying. Now, we'll move onto another excellent woman who were all about malicious. You're here. I'm all about women to arguably the. Not even arguably named one man I'm about. We're going to talk to Jen. Kane Robinson about her new film, someone great as well as the time one hundred which we have Michelle Obama and Brett fucking Cavanaugh. Louis even if you spritz on perfume every day, read me, right? Yep. 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You also have Mitch McConnell, so it's a mystery feelings and most of them make you throw out here with us to discuss this list is one friend of mine, but to very RAD person named Jen Cate Robinson who wrote and directed movie called someone great it's on Netflix, Iran. Now, she also is the creator of the beloved MTV series, sweet vicious, all my also my favorite flavor of Pringles. Welcome. Thank you so much for having him. So happy to be here. Thank you for absorbing this incredible list with Jen, do you have any first impressions on the time one hundred and who is on it. And who isn't I I really felt like I think I said keep it to my phone. I saw Brad Kavanagh on this list. It's just what are we doing the phone? Should've checked it from your through Ghostbusters phone said keep it. The other thing is these categories are odd. So you have Tiger Woods is titan. And you have Michelle Obama as an icon, and then you have leaders like what's icon and titan through a lot of athletes into titans, which is just so they can strong. Them. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have artists. Romney Malik which is decision. Okay. Yeah. These like these like the categories are weird. There was not a lot of surprises. Either. I feel at this list is this was to me is become about the gala. It's become about that group of people getting together and look at all of us. Because like are you surprised that Michelle Obama's one of the most influential people in the world, right? That. I'm happy to a new photo of her. I mean, I don't know what to say about that lake, Sandra. Like, yes. A hundred percent. What was really nice when shonda rhimes was on the list shandra Roach her blurb for her and then now saying on the lesson Sean wrench with blow about her which is very very sweet. It was a nice full circle. I'll just say one thing that is a little bit disappointing about this list is generally speaking, the blurbs are too short and like a little try. It's fun that we get people to fame ass- luminaries their friends to write about them. But for example, there's this guy ninja who is just the world's greatest fortnight player. And then the blurb about video game. Yeah. And somebody else wrote about him. Well, he's really good at fort. And I just. Puts someone good at a video game next to fucking Tiger Woods and Michelle Obama. And like Sandra was the guy who was good fortnight at titan or who can say. He's a pioneer. I have it pulled up Bank you. Yeah. He's a pioneer. And this is his picture which will surprise no-one. Yeah. I what I thought. Yeah. For Molly Coachella. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, my I mean, not my favorite, but you had Chris Christie ran the blurb for John Trump Chris Christie. I'm like the way that these men will debase themselves for this fucking buffoon his bonkers to me like Chris Chris Christie. Did you really need the look of that blurb that bad like was that really something that was that important you to I was trying to figure out why he wrote it sue also the blurp that he wrote to me vote a little shade lake Nordia. You wanna here's a here's a bit North Korea has become a nuclear power, President Trump decided to ramp up sanctions early in his tenure which other presidents have done. But decided to take a very different tack thereafter. So what did you say? Actually, I will accept that. If he wrote that with shade in mind like while done, maybe that was didn't know Christie is like the girl at brunch. And everyone's like, you gotta stop texting him. Chris Christie got taken brush on Sunday. And all the white men were like, yo even. Calling. You Ronnie was like I've been there. Like, he's already done this to me girl. Don't do it. Yeah. Stop paying getting calling up. He is caller ID. Don't do it Marco Rubio's into yours like triggered by. Brunch. I feel like your movie it was like going to brunch. While one of my friends was really depressed, but the rest of us just wanted to keep getting drunk and that kind of try to make her fill better. Which is I assume. Yeah, that's exactly the vibe. I was going to someone great is about it starts Gina Rodriguez. Who is excellent. Yeah. She's like it was this is this is going to sound sort of noxious. But I feel like is a writer like I've become a lot more Haagen of win actors or berry. Good because you're just like, oh, it's easy to see people mess up material, and you see someone like even make it better. But she was excellent. But chino Rodriguez and Keith Stanfield are going to break up. Yeah. And it's it is rough. It's a rough break-up dewana wise and Brittany snow play genus best friends, and they kind of like pick her up, and it's her last day kind of moving through New York and having a time with her best friends and through that. You have these sense memory triggers, and you see pieces of the relationship with Jean Makita that just ended triggers. This move was very triggering as former music journalists who got her dream jobs move across the country. But what I really loved about. It is that I don't think we see this age group of women being explored a lot and film, and I really love that like usually the figuring it out and finding yourself happens when you are just coming out of your teenage years, I feel like in movies, but yeah, thirty that's like a real that's like some tough shit to deal with. And I don't think that we've really seen a lot of that. And it was before so kudos for that. I really liked exploring those dynamic. Thank you. Yeah. I feel like that's when shit actually gets real. And you think you're an adult at eighteen years old at twenty three years old at whatever, you know, that time is now you look back. I look back at that. Now. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, I was I may as well. Like just been minutes. I was literally stupid until three years ago. Yeah. And I think it's also it's also knowing adulthood, yes. I think you're so you think you have it all on your so's party or so with it when you're younger, and it's like you can't make a movie about actually knowing yourself until at least twenty eight. I also I have a theory. So I have been saying this for years. But no one heard me say, so you'll just have to believe that I was name. But I was like I do feel like Rahm coms were going to be coming back for a bunch of other industry reasons that are not interesting. But I think also we haven't seen a lot of millennial love stories like we haven't had people that age like showing what it's like when we date, and when we follow eleven we do all of this. I think now you're starting to see more lick. It doesn't look like when Harry met Sally for no like texting. And like, you know, stocking someone on Instagram like, that's that's yeah. That's it. That's being three years div tag photos. Is love. The stories now where it's like, oh, yeah. This is how we do this. We actually can relate to the relationships that we see on screen in movies like yours also were marriage is not inevitability anymore. You know, people are kind of open to things maybe falling apart more single demos more explored. In addition to relationships, I think all of that is what you know. I think when going into this. I what I really wanted to put on screen was a story about these three women. And I also think that Bermuda comic can be reframed in the way that we look at the word romantic because I think that their friendship is extremely romance. And I think, you know, people are like it's not a rom com. And I'm like it just brought in romantic, right? Literate like just it doesn't have to be a woman a man, and it doesn't have to be like them being endgame can still have romance without being about them ending up together. I think I'm really excited. And and you know, the the trailer for always be by maybe came out today. Alex fucking great. Yeah. I love that. I love the idea of exploring the you know, what happens the person that you call it three A m actually find someone right? No, your best friends, actually, are your soul mates. And we don't often get to see that like in normally in a romantic comedy that film. Your film would have ended with. I don't wanna give it away. But it would have ended a very different way. There's a point in the movie where traditionally it's where it would've ended. Yeah. And we we learned there's a twist, but that is that's what the ending would have been if this movie had been made ten fifteen years ago. The studio would have made me do it. We had it in the script that way we tested the movie and the audience wanted to end their like, I would say half of the audience wanted to end their and God bless Netflix. They were like, no that's not the movie where Judy Greer type. Roles will not be treated with like soul. Career. I have loved Brittany snow since American dreams. You're obsessed with that show. She is so funny to wonder why has the best is of a human being I think on the planet, and she was she was amazing. But it really like I felt like because I lived in New York right after college. And I was like this was this was my life like you fully felt that and you felt it with your friends, and like, I think too, you know, this sort of seminal be male friendship stories would be like a sex in the city. Although that was what game end women's sounded like. We were right? I feel like Hollywood thinks women and gay men are the same thing. Yes. Yes. That's very true. Yes. Like, we will be like a gay man wrote it on my. So that's not a woman. And so it was like I felt like hearing even just like something as innocuous as like them calling to their bitch all the time, which like knowing that a woman wrote it for whatever reason makes me feel better about that than like sitting down and writing out, but the dynamic between the three of them was like so comforting. Yeah. Can we also discuss your choices with casting? I have to say that this was like the movie I feel like I've been asking for for years there so often I'll see a movie that is a good movie. But I'm like, wow. So like the clerk couldn't have been like Asian. This random person skateboard couldn't have been like a black person. And it didn't feel like it was over killed in Philip. You're pushing down our throats, it just felt very authentic, and I really really loved that. Like that friendship group looked like my friendship group coming out of college where Latina to blacks and a white woman. That's literally our group. And that's just what it is. And I really I felt seeing I felt like that was very great. And we don't normally get to see that a lot of time. So was that something that was front of mind for you? When you were writing this percent, it was it was in putting the movie together. It was something that was really important to me. And I knew that I wanted it to feel because I think, you know, an in casting all the love interests like I really wanted to be purposeful because it's like it when you just put people of color and something to put them in something, and you don't think about the dynamic correctly. You're not do like, I think like for me. I was never gonna put a white woman and a black man together. I was like. I was like I don't wanna do that. I don't think that we keep seeing color with the white woman. And like, I don't that's just not my shit. It's not what I wanna do with to Wanda and her love this. I was like, okay. It's to Wanda. I want to show a queer black love story. That is something that I I want to show it was very purposeful. And then with you know, the the the rest of the casting like, that's what New York looks like I was like, that's you know, Djibouti and Michelle Wright his. Fucking kill. It was so stupid in the best way. He has so stupid. And I ll he was unbelievable. He's that kid that like always. Yes. Food coming like the way that we I wanted the apartment to look like Tom Hanks's apartment. And then the other note that I gave was like I wanted to be filled with shit that he passed on the street, and he was like, oh, that's funny. Take that that type of rich kid just like thinks they can take any. Yeah. And they have so much dumb shit in their apartment. Literal full parking cone behind him in that scene. And just there's a whole other movie to me of him trying to take broad city style carrying. Yeah. He just he that characters like a dim Molyneaux in a way I hadn't seen before. Because so often you just hear like the. This story would Ono. He's eleven years old or something jen's e. Is that what is important that is an important PSA because you know, in your movie, they're all thirty years old. They're about to turn thirty that told millennials are like people older people now are just like anyone younger than. No word adults. Yeah. We've done shit kind of kind of only one here who's not technically a millennial. Are you not technically not beyond as a millennial year beyond? Sees a heck I've looked this up. She's technically. Well, I'm on the border. Okay. Lately. Older. I mean, thank you. Look like a millennial, and that's. That most discuss, of course, the music in this movie, I saw you didn't interview with Entertainment Weekly. We were talking about the mix tape nature of the music in this film. But first of all your impact because one super cut by Lord re came back on the I tunes, and and then on the video charts, Lil Kim's, the jump off all our one on you. Let me just say for Justice for the jump off which was not a hit at the time. Which was what I was listening to in two thousand three so bringing that back millennials just yes, I brought back little came on Easter. Tweet. Yes, I because I was like I just finished watching the movie I watched it on Easter. And I was like oh my God. This song is hot. Because of this movie was just like, thank you Jesus. Yeah. Like wasn't cheeses. Gen. Take it. Yeah. Jesus is at Coachella. Geez. Assume like these songs were meaningful to you in some way, they specifically chosen like Alana them a lot of them. I what I wanted. It to be was like songs are meaningful to me, which international players and and super cut and the jump off. And and then I wanted the rest of kind of feel like discoveries like, Liz. Oh truth hurts is number seventeen or something the global Spotify charts. Right, right. Like crazy. I love it. The way you used the music like when when truth hurts his plane. It's just like that scene. And I feel the way the music. It drives me crazy. It isn't drive me crazy. But I like when the characters are listening to the music that we're listening to feel like we're in this together. And I think that makes the music choices have to be more deliberate. Like, it's not just oh, this sounds grade begin. It looks good with the visuals. It's like would they be listening to this? And so I think that with a lot of your songs, I was like I believe that this song was. Is playing somehow in the scene. Yeah. I think that that's also like I feel like there's always a disconnect between filmmaker and subject in a lot of these especially romantic comedies because it's like you have a young cast. But like the directors older the music supervisors right older usually white God. Yeah. Yeah. Not seen just the scene. Yeah. So I think that there there. It was such a strong connection because it's like it's so borne out of me. And I am the same age as the girls in its it's all our stories. So it was so organic to make that play less than having fit seamlessly in there like bam. Power weakens written into the script that was always a trigger. That was always what brought her back. Yeah. Into that place. Because it's like that was that was the shit. I was listening to when I was twenty years old, I l-. So I heard too that Gina Rodriguez into Wanda wise have like this crazy connection went to NYU together. Oh, why were the only two women color in their class at NYU and theater company? Yeah. Film. They they've gone to NYU. And you didn't. I mean, when you were writing the script not going to guess, he didn't know that didn't know that. And didn't like I wrote the script without anyone in mind that I wanted Gina and Jean called me. And was like yo you have to sit down with two onto why he is Aaron she is excellence sheet like she is everything that we need because dewana had just fallen out of captain marvel because of scheduling and I sat down with her. And she was I mean, she's she's like a mixture of riana and the second coming of Angela bath. Like, he's about Gray's a human could ever ever get like everything about her. I was like I was like I feel like I'm sitting with royalty. Yeah. I don't know what to say. I don't think I have to say anything. She's just perfect Enver Vic, and then Brittany snow. That's a it's a hard thing. I think to to be the white woman in knacker befriends in in a film. I think that like if that chemistry is not there. You're gonna stick out. And it's just not going to be a real, especially when to want Gina go back ten years. Right. Right. And the britney's did with that character. Not just because Brittany's no is an incredible person and truly did fit into the sisterhood and like the four of us have become incredibly close. But she just like what like Italian kissy fingers. Yeah. This movie. She's so good at being that like unexpected Taipei character. Yeah. And I she's. She's so small. Like small both physically. And also the things that she does and the choices she asked. Yeah, they're so little, but they're so funny, and I felt like sort of to to what Kelly was saying, you watch Brittany snow, and I believe that she's friends with these girls, there's not every white girl. You put with the two of them, and you your I would have just thought if it was the wrong actress, you're like, oh, they needed a white person. You know what? I mean, they were like they the studio made them put a white person in because I think you see that a lot in movies now as when you see more diverse stories being told, and there is a white person. That clearly was like, well, why people need a reason to put one of them in it. And you don't believe as relationships. I'm like, these people are not friends and not because people of color and white people aren't friends, but it just it. No. It's the it's the like it's the like paint by numbers. Yes. Version of a film where it's like, your chick checking the boxes, and so we'll put this person animal put those in and I do feel like we got extremely lucky with with the entire cast in that it all. Feels like they know each other. It feels like you're watching like a piece of New York. And I think it it really cohesive and the cameo. I mean, we we're not calling them cameos. But like the the other cast of characters that we come across also stacked you have rupaul Buki, Zara Dawson. Yeah. Like back. Yes. She was so funny. But yeah, it was like such a that entire scene is. I know she's like I was wondering. Yes. The only thing in the script is her saying bitch, please. And then gene is monologue about San Francisco. And then I was just like, you know, what just go. I was just be actually because originally in the script. She's like she's like knowing fuck by your problems. And can you be nice? Can you be like mean like the interested because I feel like that's so much more than a person who just like, I'm an insert myself in this until I don't wanna be here anymore. Yeah. Theater? It's the middle of this rom com. Literally, we I was standing by. We have like two hours of Michelle Voto. Release. So funny. This is also a small thing. But I think is very important only people who lived in New York, which is that Gina's apartment was the size of a normal New York apartment. Yeah. Like when I saw that. I was like oh this cramped ass box. Yeah. You know? But like that is it literally looks like what an actual New York apartment was. Yeah. Because people who've lived in New York actually wrote this movie. You know, they're just like put them in like Charlie eight thousand dollars a month apartments. Yeah. Aaron's is eight thousand dollar month. You know what? But I believed that one I believe that. They would I I just think Blair's parents might be playing for that. Aaron also had a line where she's like, oh, I think I'm going to get this three million dollar listing today. -ssume that she was doing well and commission. Yeah. I know. All three of them to feel like they were like doing well and their jobs. I think millennial women are known in the entertainment industry to just be like complete. Fuck inflaming dumpster fire. Hat do anything. So I was like they they're all going to have drums, and we don't need to see them. And they're fine. Right. Somebody who seems like kind of fed up with cliches and like bikes writing movies directing movies her way. What do you stand? Like what stuff? Do you watch that? Like, you're obsessed with and still think about I just watched special which oh, God rhino, Connolly's fabulous. I love you know, the thing that I think that I watch and that I keep watching that. I come back to love anything that's like left of center. Like, I think about like end of the fucking world. That's something that I loved last year because I was like this is so weird. This is so center Russian doll. I really love was gonna use this word perfect. Yeah. I think it was perfect perfect. Yes. Shrill. Romney, really good. Yeah. Really good. I will say there are some shit that he's getting away with on that show that a woman if it had been a woman character. Yeah. No way. Yeah. Way you would have gone the this really makes unlikable note. Right. Seventy four times an interesting thing as an again, it's it's a tiny amount of diversity that is that is pushing through. But it really still the men still get that fucking like up always say mean, it's like, oh, wow. It's like we know that this is I will answer it quick book recommendation here called invisible women, it's incredibly depressing. It's basically about how the whole world was designed for men like literally like medicine works less. Well for women. I'm like because they only test on men we're all gonna die in car accidents because they don't design the cars for female bodies. So we are fucked and everything is that woman that fell down the stairs. And this is so Dr. Make this. Oh, Dr bet feld on the stairs. The subway stairs died in New York. She was pushing a stroller. It's like everything is made for able bodied men. Yeah. 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So what happens when you're a lowly murderer looking for love tender and bumble apparently don't give a shit because they've both announced that George Zimmerman has been banned from their platforms last week someone discovered that George Zimmerman had a tender profile and was swiping under the name Carter, which we could get into that tender took swift action and banned him from using the app. This apparently wasn't the first time. He was kicked off of a dating app last December. It was revealed that he'd also been using bumble on an unverified account and bumble also kicked him off my favorite thing about this was a woman who was messaging with him, and he sends her this, very earnest. Message like tell me about your perfect date or some bullshit like that. And she goes isn't there a special dating site for you in Casey, Anthony? That is incredible those perfect. I'm so glad she's like a screen shot of that. I mean, this guy has every day that passes. I cannot believe still alive gotta say. But like in addition to murdering an innocent teenager the goal that he has had post that to think that he deserves a normal life is the thing about him that I find most disgusting. I agree. I just really want him to crawl into a hole go away. And like don't resurface like. Yeah. You quite literally got off with murder, right? Like, go hide. And enjoy the fact that you have some limited freedoms because of that. Yeah. Like what you don't do is going to dating app and say that you really love a quiet evening at home to I guess Netflixing kill. That she's reading your packet for found right here. Literally eat late cheap steakhouse chain food on the couch. Like, nobody wants to do that with us. I'm also offended that the name. He was using was Carter. I feel attacked. I'm worried about that personally attacked by that. But yeah, it's ridiculous. Also, I just feel like in general his whole I'll say attitude since Dr on Martin has been like trolley like you. It's not just that. He doesn't go away. It's that he's like snooty for some reason. Yeah. A little like overly empowered. I mean, he's gotten into alter -cations like with the law. There is a day. I remember on Twitter when there is a story that George Zimmerman had been shot at and it was like everyone crossing their fingers. And then it turns out that it was like his car. It was like some shit like he's still here. Yeah. But he's keeps but it was some sort of road rage thing. Like, he was provoking people. And which is behavior we've seen him exhibit before. But yeah, it is. It's not just that he won't go away. But that it's really very defiant, and it's just like it's got he fucking sucks. Also, I hate to say this. But it makes so much sense. Why online dating is so horrible? Yeah. I mean now that I know that you have let murderer slip on. Because we discussed before there is no screening process like tender and bumbled. They don't ask like have you ever gotten acquitted of murder? You know what I mean? You know what I mean right things go on? For a job. Yeah. Yeah. If you've been convicted for Ellen, right? But like not on the day. I'm dating apps. You can quite literally be in very infamous like. Escaped murderer because that's what he's always going to be. And get on tender or bumble and look for love. And now I feel very seen with how things have been going. Consider myself like a jockey of these apps like a weird like dating app like connoisseur. And I I would say in general, I probably myself being able to interpret a lot about people based on what's whatever what's in their profile. The first couple of things they say to his profile in a way was so benign that actually is even more sinister. So. Yeah. So so his alias was Carter he described himself as a consultant at self employed. Right. All. Entreprenuer? Job. That's what that mean. It'll be like. VP a streets. Be listening company is that I never never heard of it. I'm Forbes Louis thing. Thank bio read. I'm looking for carefree fun. God fuck you. I would like to be outdoors fishing, camping and hiking. I love adventure not into huge crowd. I'm also down for quiet night with Longhorn takeout. But you are one of the pictures featured Zimmerman shirtless wearing sunglass I literally vomited in my mouth when. I was super disgusted. It just the thing that I wonder how long he was allowed to be on tender before someone 'cause right like someone would have had to match with him. Right. And then presumably talked to him for a bit before they figure it out because I get how someone might not immediately recognize him. And so it would have taken someone who knew he was to both match with him chatted with him a bit and then figured it out. So we have no idea how long he's been on Tinder, here's the thing though. And maybe I'm the only person has done this. But I don't know maybe you can feel like sometimes when you see people that have such a ridiculous profile. Maybe you'll like swipe in the right direction. Just to see if you match them, do you? Take screen shots of ridiculous profiles. I mean, maybe somebody like match with them just so they could be like, wait. Are you really this person? Because sometimes people will also use Bodos of like famous people right to be funny. You're to be like, I don't know. I Ron IQ in some ways. So maybe somebody was like there's no way that Trayvon Martin's killer is looking for love on bumble, right? If I were on Grindr. And somebody had an Coulter's their picture. I'm like, oh, maybe they're hilarious. I would hope it wasn't an colts. Yeah. But then to your surprise, actually, I'm in love with Ann Coulter. Right. So it could have been something. Like that. Maybe. Yeah. Fun at Barnet. I don't know. Now. It's just he I I wanna know if he ever went out with someone. Oh, yeah. Like, and how long did it take them to figure anything out? You know, what makes me fury like Trevan Martin was a very specific. And intense incident for me where it was. I think it was the age. I was at when it all. So there was a kid named Henry who was killed by the police when I was in college too. And he was from a town outside of Boston. And I was going to school in the area. And like he was very similar to that. I knew and like they'd grown up together. And it was the first time. I was I was really like a that's like, that's my friend, right? And the difference between there's no difference and that easily could have been him. And I think that that was. To Trayvon where you looked at him. And so many of us were like, that's like my cousin young what I mean. That's like your little brother, and it really really hurt an A N all of these all of these killings hurt. But also, you know, it wasn't a cop like we expect cops to get away with shooting. Black people reason that it was just this fucking like vigilante asshole. Yeah. Got away with it. And so I think about the fact that like for hopefully, not the rest of my life. But like I so long now we're just going to still have to hear about George Zimmerman and the just everyday you're like that motherfuckers alive and Trayvon Martin's dead. I know it's it's truly unfortunate. And I mean, even reading the story as you probably just thinking about brought back so many horrible Mary's of what if belt like like, I was one of those people who watched every ounce of that pretrial drill everything. And I was definitely one of the people who was visibly shaken when when it came to a not guilty verdict. I mean, I thought that was horrible. And I felt like that was such like an error injustice. And and it hurt then, and it hurts now and the idea that this man is out here being visible in living his life. All I think is, you know, Trayvon Martin will never get a chance. Yeah. Line online date, or or, you know, go into a crowd or live his life and be the adult that he should be right now because he was taken down as a teenager because his skin color was criminalised by some. Yeah. Dickhead also specifically something about George Zimmerman. My memory of that whole thing was just he was clinging like a strand of joke of an alibi. So it's just like the fact that like I mean, obviously, obviously, it was a grave injustice that he got off whatever. But just like, I'm still that's still on my mind. Like, it is such everything about you was such a joke during that scenario in addition to being monstrous, and so now, I'm thinking not only do feel entitled to act like a human being in public. But like us, you somehow think it's not embarrassing to be yourself and like you should be. So so mortified so. So I don't know. Never contract. There was never any like remorse remorse. It all. Which is really I think what like leaves the taste in so many people's mouths, and you know, what I've seen we've seen people now harassing like Alex Jones like people like that trying to go to dinner, and people are rightly I think, you know, like, we don't want you here your piece of shit. And I don't understand how George Zimmerman steps out of his goddamn house usually limbs at him, not Arianna ground. Doing like, I don't understand how he leaves his house without people constantly just like get the fuck out of here. Like, that's what he deserves. He deserves to be completely marginalized. He shouldn't he should fear leaving his house. There is something about dating apps though. It's almost savvy of him because it's only exposing yourself to like a few people at a time. So you're less likely to sort of spark outrage. Yes. So in a way like he probably thought he was getting away with something. Can you believe he thought? George. You don't deserve love and dating outs are hard enough guys with without literal. Murderers, trying to swipe with us. Yeah. I'm trying to be over here. Having a conversation about the gym with a stranger. I'm already stress. I don't wanna hear about you know, how a bag of skittles scared you into a murder like where do you start with our already have already have enough research? You gotta do agree to me, especially women to meet a man in public Google. Search the hell out of going to be Kelly. I'm dropping the pin where I will be. This is his license plate we can bear. And then if you watch catfish, and you do the thing where you take someone's photo, and you drop it in a Google imagine. If you didn't know that Carter was actually George Zimmerman and that those images to Google Bing like how much therapy. Do you need after you know, you abroad? The Buffalo Wild Wings like oh, right. This. Guy, right. When we're back guys, keep it. And now we come to the most cynical but joyous part of the show keep it, which is named after the show. Keep it where we tell something to keep in Kelly. Okay. And in fact, shall we start with you Kelly? Sure, we can't do you wanna throw your keep it out. Okay. So this is super embarrassing because it requires me to own up to something. But I'm gonna throw my keep it at spice. Do you know spices? I do not let me tell you. Why you don't know who spice? Spices on and hip, hop Atlanta. And vice believes that she is the biggest act to come out of Jamaica. Which is so funny about you know, lady saw shabba ranks and twenty people who could say that beforehand, but this entire season of love and hip hop. She has been on this kind of I wanna bleach my skin because I learned tirade. So we're the started from his like an ANR guy or something said to her you need, some there's something off with your look, and she somehow interpreted that to mean that she was dark skin, and that kind of sent her like on this downward spiral of went go full Sammy Sosa. But the thing I forgot all about that. I mean, she's ridiculous ridiculous. But I was like I feel like he was just saying you're lace front was off lake. That's what I thought. So now, she's started this campaign like black hypocrisy big on behalf of dark skinned women everywhere to both or self esteem. Hey, spice, don't speak for me. That is not a platform. All yes color is something that I think we should constantly talking about an addressing and the black community outside the black community because I know that other you know, groups of color also experience as well. However, you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth were on one side of the coin you're saying, I'm beautiful melanin nabbed, blah, hashtag that. And then the other side where you literally are trying to drench yourself in skin bleaching going to a dermatologist who talked to that you probably should consider counselling before you do this. Because that shit sounds crazy. How also she looked ridiculous because she did whitener skin for the cover of black Apache. And Sammy Sosa looked perfect by comparison. Oh, keep that. Do you? Remember, the first time you saw picture of Sammy Sosa. Yeah. Post whatever it is that he did. I thought it was like a joke or that. It would look I didn't I didn't know that was something that people do you? Remember that mean like baba that weird ghost? Thing. That. Okay. It looks like that. Did he am? I I could remember that one. Okay. So multiply that by twenty five thousand and that's was bad show. I mean, it's horrible. You know, who also look helium banks. Our our just most problem probably go face. She's just so hard. But she was she was doing that. She was selling bleaching cream as has black China as banks like was publicly like I'm bleaching my skin and very proud of it. And then you had black China, which girl you had an opportunity of the opportunity that Jordan woods has just grabbed and run with right black trail let that slip through her fingers. Yes. And she went to I wanna say Nigeria or country in Africa and was selling skin bleaching cream door-to-door getting campaign. Yeah. I mean, it's it's sad. And I think is something that we need to be talking about an addressing. I mean as somebody who grew up definitely hearing. I was blue black or navy black or too long oven. Tar baby I certainly have sensitivity. So that as an adult woman three him back to my childhood right now. But I think that it does a disservice to say well might my skin is beautiful people had beat me up on my life. But you know, what the dip myself and a little bit of h that sounds like, you know, I've seen a lot of things recently where you think that should have been a DM. People are like that should have been private. That's like that should be for your therapy. Yes. Exactly. Don't put it on H one. Yeah. Now that you've mentioned, Jordan woods. I do hope this. Resolve somewhat on red table talk. I mean, bringing only. Yes. I mean because she is one of the biggest acts to come out of Jamaica. You never know kera shall we throw it to you this week. Yes, sell my keep it is to whoever through a lemon at Arianna Guerande at Coachella this week or the first Secondly it was this past weekend. When I was there, and I think it's twofold. So there's two readings of it one. It's someone through lemon because beyond say lemonade lemons and bees become things that they'll use about beyond say and said one reading of it is that they threw the lemon at Arianna. 'cause they were what mad that beyond? They didn't show up and do the performance of a fucking lifetime. Two years in a row or to your throwing shit at her. Why are you throwing things violence? Why are you like shit? Like, why are you throwing things at someone who's performing for your goddamn benefit? Like, I just don't and also someone would have been pretty close. So it's like, you waited. You know, what I mean, you waited hours? You may be like are in a diaper. I don't know. I don't know how those people Amanda. Yes. And to throw something just like, I don't understand it. And then I think the the extension of that is just generally keep it to like stand ships. Are this is a lot larger conversation that will probably need to have. But it's just like these stands. It's just fine to love who you love. And you doesn't mean you have to hate another artist. It's so bizarre. And it's like, you do know that most Coachella have happened without beyond say Stoorikhel, historically, I would say almost all of them have happened without beyond. So it's to plan on forever now throwing fucking lemons at whoever's headlining a show. That's it's rude. It's stupid. I think it kinda hit her. Yeah. Okay. Along with this up before on keep it. But I really I'm always suspicious of people who only stand one thing should really be into a community of base. Because if you're only into one thing, I can tell you have too much of a personal stake in that person. They mean to you think you are. Them or somewhere production going on. You're absolutely going to get disappointed one way or another like, it's just setting yourself up for disappointment. And don't harass women while they're doing their job assholes PS absolutely mainly that she's three foot nine and eleven could whatnot. It was kind of Wendy to choosing these. She could fly off that ponytail gets off balance thing work. Let her do her job, please. Plus, I love Ari as you know. Yeah. Knew she was I came out recently as a fan. You know, I just don't like the idea that somebody is throwing like fruit. That's not even like switches seller. It's not something out of a Garfield. That's me. I'm sorry. I'm behalf of that quote, unquote Coachella fan. Apologize for those low lives. Now, it's my turn. Now become I can't wait. Here's the thing. I hate saying keep it to something I love, and I'm going to saying all I know. That's the only thing. I like I'm saying keep it right now to the television series jeopardy, which along with wheat thins and Sigourney Weaver's performance in working girl or the only three things I love. There is a champion right now named James holes. Our who is I think of as of this taping has won twelve or thirteen times. He the most anybody has ever won is seventy four games, Ken Jennings. Second place is twenty games. The guy who had seventy four games averaged about thirty something thousand dollars a game. This guy averages more than seventy thousand dollars a game. He has set the record for the top five wins on jeopardy. His highest score is one hundred thirty thousand dollars a game. One hundred thirty thousand dollars in jeopardy is earth shattering and also programmed for pain and programmed for victory on jeopardy. He doesn't even look like he is recalling the information. It is simply waiting to be spit back out and his buzzer speed is so crazy now you think this would be someone empower into jeopardy like, wow. Like, how amazing are you? My entire focus during this ethin- game is spent watching the other two people neck. Next to him. Yeah. Try to buzz in and just ghosts appearing in there is where soul ones. As the game begins. Jeopardy works like they announce all three of the contestants. I literally look at them. I sit there like stoic, you know, no life in my eyes. I look at them. And I just think you're gonna lows I there's no joy, it's not a competition anymore. It's simply one man dominating. And I'm happy that somebody is that good. But I'm worried if he will ever leave. Did you feel this way about Ken Jennings? Yes. Okay. Yes. But you know what Ken Jennings? Also was able to joke around a little bit like he humanity. Whereas this guy is simply like one of the transformers. He arrives at the pedestal and spits out like robot trivia, making fun like a term limit of sort. Yes. Jeopardy games. G do say if you could end it about twenty four I would be fine with that. Do you think there should be a limit? No, see, that's the thing. I also fear that he's gonna lose. And then sometime miraculously and then. Thank own await. I miss him now. So then you're really not giving him up in jeopardy. I feel like it's a there. Yes. It's a keep it to the dread. I feel watching him and to the eventual morning, I will feel he is gone, right? Well, era complicated. It's probably that the show that you love like, it's it feels different little out of. Yeah. So it feels like you're you're sort of safety blanket has some holes in it. Yes. Correct. A warlord has taken over. And I don't know how benevolent is him. Okay. So anyway, love jeopardy, but I am frightened w. And also, I just wanna say as I was on jeopardy years ago. My very limited experience on the show. I couldn't get in three questions in a row against somebody one time. And when that happens to you you feel like the game is rejecting you you feel like you can't like you're like, oh, I'm impotent or whatever. And this guy. This guy beat me say twenty questions in a row, I'm telling you, I will be calling. Glad and suing this bitch for like, some homophobic. I would make. I would make. Yes. So anyway, again, afraid of him love the show just want things to be normal. You can't see it other. You can. But Lewis is in a puddle. He had to say keep it to the joy of his life and right there steam coming up and keep it now the shell. Everything's been cats. I will come back, and we'll be like, oh, no. We we did that. Monologues with the franchise. Kelly. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me. I think is just gonna stay in Cleveland because I've put up bars around the whole city. You can't leave. Oh, fantastic. That I'm just coming. You'll be back easy. Perfect done. And thank you so much to Jen. Robinson for talking with us today. You can watch someone great on Netflix until next week Kelly Carter forever. Depends.

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Movies with Mick LaSalle: Academy Awards Should Win/Will Win Episode

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Movies with Mick LaSalle: Academy Awards Should Win/Will Win Episode

"Imbued with hauntingly beautiful original songs by Sufiane Stevens. Don't miss the San Francisco symphony performing the score for the critically acclaimed coming of age romance. Call me by your name live to film on the big screen June. Eighteenth tickets and information at four one five eight six four six thousand or visit SF symphony dot org. Mission to. From our nine. Oh one mission street studios. You are listening to the San Francisco Chronicle. I'm Peter Hart law. Pop culture critic here with Mikla south for movies with Mikla sow. We'll come back. Hi, peter. It's good to be back. Yeah. This is should win will win Oscars podcast. That's right. How do you feel about should win will win? That's that's been a feature. That's been going on for a while. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it it gives it gives me the chance to to to not feel so frustrated as I talk about what will win. Yeah. So it's an it's a nice opportunity to give a plug to what I genuinely genuinely think are the best best things nominated. That's good. Do you? Tell me if I'm wrong. I feel like the downside is that you're either right or you're wrong. Like, you write a movie review in? It's your opinion. It can't be wrong that but everybody's checking off the boxes. Yeah. What's your record on should win will win last year? I was really good. And I've gotten better in the last couple of years. But before that, I wasn't that good. I just just got a little bit better at it in the last few years there was one year where I actually saw the documentary shorts animated shorts. It felt like a superpower. I'm excited about this. When libra hurts returns, we're gonna learn about what a colonoscopy movie is a little bit on Christian bale, surprising English accent Romalis teeth. And why the worst thing for Mikla, Sal is a split between director and best picture where one wins. But the other doesn't win is that right? That's right. We're going to hear about that. And alita batte lane a little bit about that. At the end depot podcast. Thanks for listening. Hi, this is Mikla, Sal. And I'm here with my editor libra hurts high liba, and we're gonna be talking about the kademi awards this time we're gonna be talking about what will win what should win but should've been humming. And maybe even two, but this is going to be predictions. You can use this. You can try to make money off it, and let's let's see let's see if it works so leave, but what do you what would you want start about what category? With best picture. Oh. Gusto here. Well, the best picture is the one that is okay. Two minutes. I would say this best picture has become harder to pick. Choose who's going to win ever since. They changed the way the voting is it used to be you'd pick the biggest whatever's the biggest movie and the stupidest movie and that would win. So if you're too big movies like like you'd say okay, Black Panther or stars born? And then you'd say, okay, which one is stupider. And then you go back and forth trying to figure it out. But this case since they changed the voting that's not the case. And you never know what's going to win. Although what usually wins is whatever was was not the favourite on opening day. I think that's going to be different this time. I think the favorite is going. Take the Globes which is not the true predicated, but gives you a good clue. Now, when I say, the favorite in this case, there was actually a movie called the favor of what I mean is I think the favorite on the opening opening line favorite was Roma. And I think Rome is a little bit of a hitch went green book pulled it a victory which I was all excited about but boy the last few last weeks or so it's just been roam roam roam aromarama. And and it's really interesting. I don't know. You know, what's interesting though is the year. We all said, LA La Land, LA lanne, LA La Land, and it came out to be moonlight. And we figured out kind of what happened was that? The voting kept going LA La Land, and moonlight was coming in as a very close second because we didn't know, and we think that's what eventually because of the ranked voting voting also because if people want something other than Lal and to win and a lot of lands favorite. They make sure that they don't put that. In the top three or four. So that in the hope that we'll never get counted. I doubt it never know. I mean, I'm seeing a lot of people who really don't like Roma. I think some of the and I don't like Rome that much either give it a little clapping just on the basis of how it looked affected elect last hour. So a lot of people are liking it for in a way unfair reasons because they're watching it on the tablet. They're watching it on their computer. And and this is a movie that the only chance at has. If it's holding you captive because there's no there's no narrative that's going to hook. You. You have to be kind of hypnotized by the visuals that said, honestly, I mean when people ask me about Roma, I what I've been saying it's like a kind of a colonoscopy movie because it's a movie that puts the whole audience such a transit like something like a zombie state of transferred that you could probably sneak in team of gastroenterologist to give everybody a colonoscopy as they watch the movie, and nobody would say what's that? You know, what I walked out of this movie, I was waiting on. So you see my doctor to tell me whether I should come back. And five or ten years. So you know, it is that kind of movie, but I think it's I think it's better. I think it's not as good as the people who love it say it is. Although, you know, I'm not going to argue with love. But I think it is a little bit better. It it's worsened that people love say it is. But I think it's better than people who hate it say it is. Although because it's getting so lauded, I definitely indulge the people hate it starts smiling agreeing with them because it's. I mean, you know, I sat there squirming soon. Mike, my chair in a big theater, and I kept saying it's beautiful beautiful. Look, I'm supposed to love this movie. And I was everybody around me loved it. But the biggest thing that's coming out is more people looking at the foreign film category. I think you know, we're looking at it. It's going up against Cold War, which is me one of my best movies of the year. And it'd be really interesting because that's going to be awarded. I who's going to win core and everybody everybody thinks going to be Roma which is also nominated. But I think it's going to be Cold War. And I'll tell you why first of all this this some strength for Cold War because Cold War got nominated for best director. So that's interesting right there. So that of course, Roma, but it's the only other foreign film besides Rome. It's me nominated. The other thing is the way foreign film is voted this the only category where you absolutely have to seen all the movies and to to vote in that category. None away. If you don't just pledge that you've seen the movies you have to go to a kademi approve screenings and sign in. So if you go to cabinet proof screening and sign in if you wanna vote for Roma, and you just a casual person who just really likes Roma you have to sit through four other foreign films you have to be pretty hard core. And I think that the people who like Cold War would have more of a tendency to be that hard core. Foreign film base also to everybody who votes in that category. They know Rome is going to win best picture. And so even if they like Roma, even if they love room if they if they like, Cold War, even as much, not even more. The temptation would be just go ahead and vote for Kohl because they know that that best pick, you know. I mean, look Roma winning foreign film is an anti-climax Cold War winning foreign films a big deal for Cold War. Because this this the best is going to get. So I think it's going to be called war for foreign film. And if it's not boy, I then then get ready for you know, Roman maybe a win everything. What movie do you think should will best picture which of the nominees and of the non nominees of the nominee non nominees? You know, my favorite movie was vox lox, which nobody saw. But I just thought it was I was most interesting movie the year. And I think it's it's a movie, that's it's a movie that's going to have a lot of legs in the future in terms of people looking back on our time and all that but of these movies here. I'd be happy with black klansman. I'd be happy with the favourite. I'd be happy with green book. And in a funny way. I'd be happy with the stars born. I mean, the stars more insect a big old fashioned kind of movie that wins. I'm not in love with the second half. But I absolutely adored the first half. I think that scene with their singing on is like one of like one of the best scenes of twenty eight teen. So I'd be happy with all that if I were going to vote. Probably vote for probably vote. Green book clansman. Resonates and green book a really close second. I different stars born. I said there was a lot of direction issues going on there. I did like a lot of it. And I did appreciate a lot. But I felt the direction really stirring the off. And I'm sorry guys. Black Panther will not cry at all if that wins crow. I don't like that move furniture. Just think it's good. I think it's a superhero movie. But you know, I think I think you're my vote for black klansman actually because. Because you know, it's like a life achievement award of Spike Lee amid if it's in a close race trained green book in black Clarence on Mike vote for black lines. Love green book. I I just think flack clansman, I just remember watching and enjoying it. He kind of does a he captures the time period. He does almost like watching TV show of that era too. And then all of a sudden comes at ending, and you realize what he's done, and he was like a gut punch, and I remember, I was just balling. I was crying. So so hard after that. I think that that that's a good movie. Yeah. Well, you cry for the opening of an envelope though. I mean, you're pretty true. Schindler list in conrolling downs. Okay. What have we got next? Erector. It's going to be Koran. Okay. Okay. Gonna win best director when best cinematography, but he's going win. Invest director. In both should went back to spike. But by the way, can we say the Trump factor here? I mean, it it's very easy to vote for Mexican film for these Kevin vote kademi voters because, you know, Trump stone building a wall, and he's not talking about Mexico paying for it anymore. But he was talking about that for a while. But so this this whole thing, you know, to vote for divo- for Roma is a way of making yourself feel good about annoying Trump and to this is going to be a factor. I think so anyway, inquiry forget it. Yeah. He's he's just gonna he could he I'm sure he's into speech already. And it'll be about Trump. He's gonna it'll be sending Trump for sure. I mean, if you're if you're a Mexican actor, right? You made a movie and getting up to win the ward at a time when when the, you know, the president is shutting them the government because he wants to build a wall between the United States in your country. And now you just infiltrated by winning. Best picture you have or best director you have to do kind of victory lap. Same thing about Spike Lee, especially with ending the ending really direct attack yet as it is. But it's it's not in contention. It's going to it's going to be it's going to be that a few. But that's good point. But still going to be. So we did director. That was easy. Yeah. Do not be exotic in your choices for like on your Oscar pool directors Koran just check that off just yeah. Don't want to go back. The next check off pretty easy to supporting actor to check of deserving. Herschel our Shalit's probably gonna win. I think he's I think he's the one that if you really wanna take it to the Bank. That's luanne are the two. Sim- Rockwell's is really one of my favorite actors. But nominating nominating improvise it's sort of funny, although he's delightful. I mean, he's nominated for being delightful, Jewish W Bush. I would probably in this category. Probably vote for Richard E grant for Kenya. Forgive me, but similar that's life achievement award stuff. Adam drivers good. But I I still think it's a Hirsch alley. That performances is just tremendous. When you that does it really is. And it's it was so close to him being a best actor nominee in this case too. I I would I would be I'd be happy Marshall, but a couple of that should have been nominated. I'm not saying I would vote for them over over all these people but ref AL ca sell. Yes. Shrift in blunt spot. And and also I forgot the guy's name. Oh, hold it. It's coming to no one away. Again. The did you see the movie Colette? No, I have. I have no Colette is. The guy in collect. Oh, what's his name? Dominic west not, whoa. Right. So. Unless my mind yet, we've talked about the losing your mind thing on the air that the losing. Did we talk about the noun thing we took we discuss the noun verb thing now? All right. Well, here's were you know, as I get older, and I started actually noticing we're doing the old podcast like in two thousand six that. I started noticing that. I'd come up on on names. And suddenly just forget the name like a second before I'm supposed to do it. And this is something that happens. Unfortunately, as you get older, but I've I've learned that you shouldn't really worry about it until you start losing verbs because nobody in the history of the world, for example. It's very common to say. I just sound so running down the street. What was what was wasn't a? Oh, yeah. Joe? But nobody ever says I just so Joe he was oh, what was the things. He was doing. He was doing this thing. What does it call running? Yeah. Nobody loses that. So when you lose that then you know, you losing something but anyway, Dominic west. So maybe I'm. What are we doing? We just did supporting actress who should have been doing. Oh, yeah. We're doing the academy or diction supporting actress if you'd asked me two weeks ago, I would've said a shoe in for Regina king. But the couple of changes, we're Rachel vice seems to have taken a little bit of an off of that. I would I would vote for ritual vice in this one I my the way I I've handicapped this is that is that vice and stone split the vote and Maria marina de Tavira, by the way. It's really nice in Rome. I think she's really good. But it's still it's it's not that's not an actor's movie, particularly Amy Adams and vice. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not going to win. But you know, it's one of these day she's gonna get her. Do I think that she's at this point getting nominated for whatever she does because everybody knows? She's great. But I I didn't see that as a nomination. I think stone advice is still going to split and it'll be Regina king. But Regina king. I have to say she's great in in the two best scenes in the movie if Bill streak could talk the two best isn't don't we like, the other actress utterly? She's great to if there was a best featured role or something which I think there should be. I should I think she'd win. She's amazing that she's great in that scene. But I think it should be Rachel Rachel really in in my opinion, actually, Rachel vice is the star of the favourite, except the movie is is structured in such an unconventional way that the person who was the star the movie ceases to be the star about eighty percent into the movie disappears. And then just just. Comes back briefly. I think it's because of having you know, they had to adhere to actual history. They did at made no sense, otherwise ritual vices, grow say as much as I love Rachel vice in the moving, I think that's what to meet destroyed the favorite from being in my top ten was losing her and those last twenty minutes, but when I still go back, and I look at this things in scenes, I think about like, you said that scene of Regina king Puerto Rico, man, I don't even think she says it word in that scene. And I just blows my mind how great she wasn't at. She was great. Yeah. Like ritual ritualised better. I would vote for which I sent you. Since JAMES BOND come on. She's very JAMES BOND, and she saw someone best she's one in this this category before and so maybe we might want to save up for best actress she should've won best at while should've been nominated for best actress for the deep blue sea several years back. She was mazing that I think she's the one flash disobedience, I loved her and disobedience. Yeah, I loved her and disobedience, and but nobody really I don't know. It was like that movie didn't happen. And it was by that great director Sebastian Lillio, something from a think Chile whose only made really good movies. I thought that movie would be taken more seriously, but it wasn't positioned for anything. It was, you know, shown earlier in the year wonderful movie disobedience, by the way, if you're listening to this. And this is the first hearing of the movie disobedience I want and what you do something for me. When you go. See disobedience don't read the cover of the don't read. The cover. If you get a Netflix don't read anything don't read any description of it in watch. It the way I did. Because I watched it where I knew I was going to move called disobedience at two o'clock and know anything about it, and it makes for a better movie. If you don't know what it's about, and then and then it's surprising because it gets goes into really great direction. Okay. Just want to protect wanna protect your experience here. So we've got the should we now go into our actor or actress first, let's go to actress, I guess, I think it's going to be Glenn Close. And again, it's a lifetime achievement. And she for lifetime achievement. Really does deserve it. She's had a body of work. That's outstanding. Not only on people not only on screen, but on stage. I'm so old. I actually saw her in a Tony award winning role to things she was in the original, Tom stoppard. What was that show play called with the real thing? The real thing. She was the regional MRs Barnum in the musical Barnum. She wanna Tony. Okay. Yeah. Here's a works with lead actress. Okay. I my choice even though I is Melissa McCarthy. All right. So here's how this works who wins. You should go somebody under thirty five usually goes to someone who has never been nominated before. Usually goes to someone who does a kind of chameleon ick performance where you know, the completely different than they have a war that wearing a big nose. They have disease something they playing a historical figure, the Margaret Thatcher. Something like that. And that's worked. So we look at this. So so, okay. So you lied to reach show is under thirty five. And so is lady Gaga, but they are each playing in case it lady Gaga, she's playing somebody who's very much like herself and the case of Ulitsa upper reach nobody knows who she is. Because it's the first movie. So I don't know if she's playing a self she's playing somebody completely different from herself in terms of personality. So she's she doesn't count that doesn't happen that just like the same thing was happening. When Jennifer Lawrence got nominated for her first first big movie. Right. It's like well. Nobody knows who she is. So turns out, you know, she's not somebody from the Ozarks where she was. But nobody knew then you look at this look at the rest Livia Coleman. She is playing the Queen Queen Anne, but she's English and she's playing a Queen. Nobody thinks that is a stretch or by just thinks that doesn't English person English ING it up. Helen mirren. You got Caitlyn shit in que- will these these? But yeah. But that's different in the case of of Helen Mirren. She was was playing somebody that we knew. So we could say, wow, she's nothing like Helen Mirren. Whereas Olivia Coleman. We we barely know her. And then she she's playing somebody that we don't know. And she's single she's playing Queen listen McCarthy, you know, I don't see that as a huge transformation. I think she's great in the movie, but she's basically playing Melissa McCarthy with no jokes. And then Glenn Close is is basically very much like Glenn Close in the wife. So then you look at it. You realize that nobody is playing. Is doing a chameleon performance Glenn Close if that it actually is community on she's not like any of that. I mean, she's a actress is very strong willed strong mind, and and her whole career when you look back at it. She really doesn't play herself. But she's she's looks like Lynn close talks like slow. Woman who stood in the shadows of her husband. That was that's not going close the real. I I've interviewed Glenn Close to I happen to. Yeah. But she's pissed off about it. So that is going close, right? Okay. So if you look statistically who should win is lady Gaga, and she's not gonna win. Let's just say she's not going. But if you look at it 'cause you say well, look at that. Nobody knows nobody's playing chameleon. She's thirty two perfect age to win for that category. And she's never been nominated before. Boom. She's going to win. But you know last year last year, it was the same situation even more. So because you had Margot Robbie and she was nominated. She's twenty seven good age never been nominated before. And she was totally transformed. Tonya Harding that I Tanya movie. So what happened? Instead they voted for. They voted for Francis McDormand who was went through the movie pissed off. And so I think I think what happened but predicted would happen is that that that older women in the academy were were in a kind of angry mood, and they weren't going to just. Take it anymore. They were not happy with you know, the election. They were not happy with the what's going on in the country. And they just said no, we're gonna vote for you know, we're gonna vote for Francis. Mcdormand who is as pissed off as we are. I look at this. And I think what's going to happen is people going to vote for Glenn Close to say, hey, you know, Glenn Close has been great all these years. This is not terribly strong field of that. I agree with you Melissa McCarthy is really great and a leave. Your coleman's. Great Bolivia Cullman is is is. What I'm gonna say she's actually the supporting performance in my humble opinion in that role. And and I think that there are a little too clever by half to nominate her for best actress, I think they're going to be sorry that they did. I think they're going to come up going to come up with nothing might my guests. So I think it's going to be Glenn Close to. I think I think she's gonna win. And boy does she want to. She really wants to win and kept Lamour. Just very nice woman by interviews or for Albert hops in which actually Albert Hobbs are not really good. But she was good. But more important supporting actress tremendous, which was jennen mcteer that movie was just. I felt bad for on that. But I mean after I, sir. And that I just thought will they ever forgive her for this nominee, not because this terrible acting was fine. I mean, it was shoes. It was insipid. I mean, she was just kind of simpler. Anyway. Yeah. Oh systems ridiculous. Best actor, this is all gonna be fighting a first of all me should win. We'll not win Vigo Mortenson. I agree should win Viggo Mortenson, and I would differ anybody in a movie the share I'd vote Viggo Mortenson. All right. Well, does that works with this one? You you win. If you're middle aged not young middle age and middle age in the case of the academy is somewhere between thirty eight and sixty you win if you're playing once again, a chameleon performance. So that you are you playing somebody identifiably not like yourself. You let's say and you win it helps if you've been nominated before in that category. So it's a lot different from the the best actress that sounds like Vigo, but it's not gonna be. No, well, yeah. Well, okay. So Viga was is sixty and he plays somebody very much not like himself. And he has been nominated in this category. Now, there's only one other person who is in that has those qualities Christian bale Christian veil bail is is forty five. He has been nominated in this category. Two and he plays somebody plays Dick Cheney. Yeah. And he's like totally not like himself. The other ones Bradley Cooper is forty four good age. I think he has been nominated in this category. But he's playing guy looks just like, Bradley Cooper, the only differences. He sings big deal. Now sorry will default ages out of the category, sixty three wall? So it's weird is playing a guy who's thirty seven. I don't know. How much toxic waste Vincent van? Gogh would have had to eat every morning to look like he was sixty three by the time. You're thirty seven. But I guess we have to accept that. As a possibility. But that would be chameleon role, except we don't know how Vincent Van Gogh acted. We just know what he looked like smaller movie to two small movie. And then you have Romney Malik who is thirty six. So he's a little bit young never been nominated before. So that's not good. And he completely transforms does a lot of teeth acting all boy those teeth get a workout in bohemian rhapsody. I never saw somebody do such work with their teeth. It was it was very touching. It was. I like that movie a lot better than you know, what I really liked Malik did. And that movie I was really impressed by I love the way he saying. Oh, whoops. No. It was dumbed. Yeah. I think it would be a joke. Fem to win my wife. Of course, doesn't listen to the podcast because she says, I have the podcast at home. But if she did she would disagree. She would say that I've tried to actually play podcast. Did she says she was born to want to hear this? I have the podcast at home. But anyway, Rani Malik. She loved the podcasts at home. She loves this. I think you love it. I love it a lot. I mean, I didn't have my top ten, but it was really close. Yeah. Well, I I. He's not going to win. I think he's going to win. But I wouldn't be surprised if Christian bale Christian bale because Christian bale, if I have to believe in my system, and I look at my system and Christian bale ticks off every checks off all the boxes now. So does Viggo Mortenson. I just think Christian Bale's transformation. I I have no confidence in the academy to do the right thing. And I think what they look at is is is silly stuff. Like that. You know, somebody. Oh, wow. You actually believed he was Dick Cheney. That's the kind of thing they love Hollywood Halloween costumes of Chris rally Malik has has a heck of a Halloween costume too. But at least Christian bale, you know, he talks like, I don't know. He also wants sag. And that seems she wants second Glenn Close won the globe and said a couple of other words, it's got to be a lot of actors. Yeah. And the same thing with Romney Malik and Christian. So I put the edge to Malik. I wouldn't be surprised if it's bail. I would be shocked if it was Vigo, and it'd be absolutely delighted be shocked. Yeah. You know? I it could you could be right for this reason. Right. You figure that the people who know the most about acting would be the people in the Screen Actors Guild and for them to go give it to Rami Malik. It's like, okay. Well, if from my point of view, if they don't have a clue who who are the people who are in the technical categories. What are they gonna vote for? Well, you know, most most people when they think of acting they actually think that acting is impersonation they think that acting is putting on a mask rather than taking off. And so if the Screen Actors Guild gave it to Malik I think that he's going to have a pretty natural constituency among people who. Don't know what acting is but st- and. I don't know. I think it'd be I it's going to be Christian Bill. So it's going to be an American playing Brit or Brit playing American. Yeah. Cushion bell. I forgot that he was British when he got up to this award of his what is this? I thought he was doing a character. I thought he was it sounded it sounded like he was suddenly. Who I felt like I was watching my fair lady. And going to start sick, you know, with a little bit of luck. I couldn't believe it not only I knew he was English. But I didn't know that it was like look English. I thought he was he was more. Like, I don't know like tennis, Craig English. Daniel Craig thank you, very vices husband. Yeah. Thank you for correcting them because very upset was here and believe it or not until he said, he grew up down, southern California. He sounded British to me. British. He's not was he talking. I don't know it just because he talks kind of weird so weird. So almost had a little bit of a British edge to it. And then the guy the Welsh guy who sounded Welsh and the guy from upstate New York who saw it was from upstate New York. Pretend he was from lower New York until I pointed out to him you're from upstate New York. And I don't want to hear about you being a Yankee fan. So what should we tell people? How should they vote? I'm gonna sit Christian bale, but you say, I think. I think it's I lean towards Romney because it said, okay? And I leaned too it's Christian bale based on historical trends, although I would feel better but Christian bale if Romney Malik was thirty two instead of thirty six because he he's he is young. But he's not you know, that young that people would like throw up to good TV credit for mister robot where he's one of the bunch of awards for that show. Well, distressed I've never seen it. I'm so distressed for another take it to the Bank is the best animation movie which is spider verse. Yes. No, everybody loves that. The bank. Yeah. Okay. So you can definitely shallow shallow. Yeah. Should be called shallows. Show those. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah. I mean, the fact that actually remember the melody I still think this is me should've won. This is me that was good one. That was good period. Lady saying that one that was wonderful. So anyway, I guess we should say say goodbye at this point. We've we've we've exhausted everyone already, but I just want to say one thing we have a movie opening this week. If you happen to be listening to the podcast this week called alita, and I liked it. And if I liked it I liked it means either that it's going to do really bad that it's like one of these weird action movies that only I like like watchmen or something. It's just gonna die at the box. Yeah. Cat women. I hate to admit. Yeah. I liked it too. But but yeah. But anyway. I would I think it's a good movie. I think it's a good movie that kind of addresses the issues of of being a cyborg, and rather touching way and the the placement of her as an animated creation with an I just don't know how they did it, obviously. I mean, I it it's so seemless, and before we go just want to say to the audience, you know, for you guys. It's it's all fun and games. You know, you get to watch just sit there you get to watch the Academy Awards for us. It's really miserable. I mean, it really is. Because the story that I write is do very often like a half hour after the awards, but I don't know what the story is about because all the awards that anybody cares about frontloaded to to the end of the show. And so we have this law. I have to write I'm writing the story. But I'm running the bottom of the story. And then I'm creeping up, but the worst thing that can happen when best director. And best picture on not the same movie. Because because best director gives me a warning say, okay, good. I can start writing the lead now, and how many times Leib I've I've written. You know, the the juggernaut that was LaLa land or the juggernaut how many juggernauts if I like the lead paragraph has been thrown out in the last minute. Win for gravity, but didn't win best picture that year. I I don't even remember that's pretty sure he won for gravity. But it was definitely not best picture it. Oh, it's it's less. The Lal was funny because I was watching TV. And so as soon as LaLa land, quote, unquote, one I turned off the sound, but I didn't move, and I started just writing the Lal and paragraph, and then I just noticed this commotion on the screen. And then you called me you called me. I called you come the I had seen Lal had everything planned out after I knew it was going to be loud. I was convinced I told her ticket to the Bank, it's level. And so I go in there and it wins. And I go rushing to the art department to tell them what we need to do and come back, and I hear my phone ringing, and I'm looking at the screen ago. Why is Barry Jenkins television screen and he's going? Oh, no. And of course, at this point. I got into my old sports mode about breaking news ripper that. In that case, it wasn't as bad as the usual thing. But because it was so understood that that was such an interesting interesting thing that everybody in the country was doing exact same thing. And everybody's story was say ten minutes late. But in the case of something else where where there's just that crash. Yes. Something like that. I mean that was the easiest thing. And then all of a sudden having to right? Oh that was terrible. Anyway. So we're going to be working. But you guys you enjoy yourself so have fun. And we'll say we'll see the Academy Awards for the San Francisco Chronicle. I'm Michael Sal hurts. You are listening to the San Francisco Chronicle. 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Psycho Killer

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Psycho Killer

"From workhouse connect in a j Benza. Vein. He liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex is the guy put the cop in the peacock network. Okay bitch. Hey, everybody AJ Benza here for famous bitch. This is your podcast for January ninth. Twenty nineteen today show brought to you by noon kickoff, your new year rights, they on track to meet your New Year's resolutions. You know, you made some sticking to a white walls plan. Not that easy. We've all lost weight. We've all gained it back. We've been there. Why why does that happen because most weight loss plans just tell you what to do while you're on the plan? Not after with Neum, you'll lose the guilt and learn how to develop a new relationship with food. So if you want different results at calls for different approach. Learn don't diet with Neum. You've got a weight loss plan in the palm of your hand. All you gotta do is commit ten minutes a day. We can all do that. 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I gotta tell you Pete Davidson Mike at tumble out of this. This is a phenomenon that happens whenever a halfway decent looking guy or even a nerd has a relationship with a beautiful woman or model or starlet. Or in Pete Davidson case a pop star. What happens is women everywhere. Stand up like near cats and take notice and they get nosy. They. What does he have that made Arianna grandba- who could have her choice in any man? She wants stop what she was doing in fall in bed with that guy. Not only that but put him in her sixteen million dollar apartment and get matching tattoos like what's going on? Listen, I've been researching Pete Davidson, I've heard he's hung. Well, I know you girls know that you read the reports to is that it I'm asking you ladies that all takes for a guy to be wall. Hung that shallow. I'm sure you are. And that's okay. I dunno. Everyone's different. You know, tell you story that destroyed me it's fucking funny. It's funny now the back when it happened. I was mortified K and worse it happened in front of my friend, Neil Gumbel, and we're in a restaurant eating with my ex girlfriend, Michelle Brando. I forget who or what we were talking about. But listen me me Machel had a good sex life. Nobody was ever left unsatisfied. Let's put it that way. But we're talking about one of her ex boyfriend's, and she says shit for some reason she goes he was too big. And I go wife and Gumbo turns his face away from the steering wheel. And he's like oh boy. And of course, I got an more about this. And what do you what do you need to big? What the fuck is that? I'm not exactly like tic TAC. Who's I? No, no, no, you're perfect. You're just right. But you know, so and so was too big. And again, she says too big and couples like look like was he a lot bigger than Asia. And you know, she starts to wait in her mind. So I go enough. I start first of all I'm sure he wasn't as big as you remember? Okay. Let's put it that way, you know, everything in the past gets distorted Michelle, and she goes, no, he he was I can still feel it. I wanna jump onto fucking calling kill myself. In fact, I think I opened the door as we were driving down a highway any out. I don't know how to got here. Oh, yeah. Pete Davidson is well Hong, anyhow, it's the fact that he was inside are we on the ground that makes all these women wanna know, what's he got? It's kinda like you're single and not getting any action, then you're engaged or married and suddenly women are everywhere an acting interested. Suddenly it's a phenomenon. He may already banged beckons sale and good for him. If he did after crapping alad, Ariana GRANDE and threatening suicide. This is just what the doctor ordered. But Kate Beck and sale. She's been hurting to K when our ex husband Len Wiseman good-looking guy, by the way director when he filed for divorce in two thousand fifteen it was after he was seeing on a date with a twenty five year old actress CJ, Franco wise, men's a ladies man, you know, he initially scooped beckon sale on the set of underworld, which he directed and she starred in back in two thousand three and when they met wise men at the time was married to a kindergarten teacher named Dana and Cape was in a relationship with Michael sheen who she shares a seventeen year old daughter with name lilies. And by the way, I'm not exaggerating when I say as beautiful as Kate Beck and sale is and she is CJ Franco's gorgeous. Plus, she's twenty years younger. It's like Why's been traded in his lease. For a newer car. I mean, you know. But any alot account 'less flings that happened in Hollywood every night but particularly during award season during the ward show season awards week in general, it gets crazy all the stars get their work done. So that they can look just right for the close ups, and our high definition TV's. They don't eat they workout every salon is book every spas book. Plastic surgeons make all their money and sales for all sorts of beauty potions and lotions and those things shoot through the roof. If I was gonna guess I would say that there's probably more bowl talks filler shot into stars faces in December January than the rest of the combined. I really feel that way. And let me just say it looked like Bradley Cooper had half of all. Injected filler and bowl talks in his forehead and around this is the night of the Golden Globes. I know I posted that picture they'll sucky got a big lady facelift, and I've always started him to be a good looking, dude. He is a great looking dude. American sniper the hangover. So linings, Bradley Cooper's good looking guy. I mean for me, he moved up on my my gay for a day list. In ching, inching very close to Brad, Pitt and Tom hardy, and Johnny Depp, circa nineteen Ninety-six, but in that picture, look like a putz at the golden gloves. He really did his faces all pulled back and shiny like a plastic smile on his face. And is it mayor his nose and chin look longer, very odd. But look I it's now apparent for me. Anyhow, he needs to have his SCRUFF. He needs that father clock shadow to stay on my gay for day list. But my list, maybe not other guys lists. And listen, ladies all men had that list cell. Don't let them tell you. They don't we all think about it. It ain't written down or anything like that? We don't talk about while broS. But we all think about it in wonder, but I'll tell you. It's strange even though Nicole Kidman loves her filler in loves her bowl talks. I still find their goddamn beautiful. I know it's a weird thing. But I do Sandra Bullock is a manikin now with with the the ball tops. But I find her very beautiful amber herd can't deny she's beautiful. But I will say after I saw her on stage. She starting to look a little rough for a chicken or thirties. It's put it that way. You know, some can get away with the the both tops in Philip some can't. But listen in terms of this phenomenon that Pete Davidson is enjoying. I was about was a beneficiary of that to a degree Athar seeing with the car for two years. Women got curious. What does he have? What does he have that? He landed a supermodel how what say J doing a lot of girls. To find out. But anyhow the other thing at the Golden Globes. Can I just say as dumb and over the top? He opening was with Andy samba and Sandra. Oh, I gotta say they contacted a decent job. They really did. They kept the show moving. They didn't get in the way. Although I've said many times before when will somebody higher Tina Fey, and Maya Rudolph to host everything those two is. So our Ganic perfect together. Do it already phenomenal. But I have no big problem with sambergen, Sandra. I just the only issue I have is when Sandra L ended the first segment on an emotional note about the improvements in diversity in film and television. You know, several films that were spotlighted this award season feature women and people of color, Sandra, Oh's, hosting gate in itself broke a barrier. She's the first Asian woman to front major award show in America. And she told the crowd, quote, I wanted to be here to look out into this audience and witness this moment of change. And I'm not fooling myself. I'm not fooling myself next year could be different it probably will be. But right now this moment Israel, trust me. It is real because I see you. And I see you all these faces of change. And now so will everyone else, and she was shaking very emotion, and she has one of those faces where it's hard to tell if she's serious or not, and I really couldn't. But she was serious personally. I don't think about the first Asian whatever I hate when they keep highlighting that. But you know, obviously, she cares and other people of Asian persuasion care. So it's just time to get used to this shit. And when they get their moment in the sun. You know, let them have their. Their moment to sound off. And be all proud. I'm not mad. I just I'm getting tired of everybody mentioning this sort of thing. And I'm going to get to Darren criss did later in the show. The other thing I don't know problem with Christian bale, thanking Satan for helping him play Dick Cheney while he accepted the ward for best actor in a comedy or musical. Apparently everybody on Twitter for God. He's not American. He's Welsh I love his accent. And I love that he thanked his wife giving him the beautiful children who we call burrito banana. I love natural moments like that. But I will say it's very interesting bail needed Satan's help to do anything. I mean, this is the guy who was arrested on suspicion of salt on his mother and sister after a huge argument at a London hotel when his sister and mom had the nerve to say something critical about his beautiful Brazilian wife that was back in two thousand eight and I don't think he's spoken to his mom and sister since I could be wrong. But it when he went he went to the precinct. He was freed after four or five hours of talking to the police, but the damage was done. And even though he didn't have fingering them. You know, it's. It's not a good Mark to have on your career. It's not good to go through that as a person, but you know, going off on your mom and sister. It's interesting to see he needed Satan sell for anything. And let's not forget his meltdown on the set of Terminator salvation, I've been listening to it all day four minute meltdown contains forty f words and he ripped into the director of autocracy who accidentally interrupted seeing while he walked into Christian bells. I line go. Check out the video on YouTube. I'm sure you've heard how crazy went. But now they have the video up. Never knew this fascinated me today 'cause he's working in front of a green screen, and it's very intense. And he's got somebody on the ground with a rifle point to that him. And some of the kid is wearing the whole green screen outfit. It just goes to show how when movies are may we have no fucking clue how things were put together if you look at him in his army uniform and his like his warrior uniform, and there's nothing but green screen around. You see this director for talkers. Walk walk right behind the camera where Christian bale is looking to try to check out the lighting. It is. It is aggravating. It is dumb to do that. And he rip them into ass and he screams abused. And he's threatening the guy and the director. There was the guy named mitt. Jeez. Trying to calm down the situation and bails kill fucking as I won't you off the fucking said, you mother of you'll crazy and this poor DP. He's apologizing explaining, you know, I'm just checking lives, but bale. Do you want me to go? Contrast your life. You fucking trashed him. You know, you do one more contaminant walking off this set. The brilliant thing was he didn't do it in his Welsh accent? He didn't character. He's a fucking active to the end Krista. We've started to forget how he really talks until we saw that speech the Golden Globes other realize how fucking well, she is my God. But he was going through some heavy shit back then because it happened a few days before he had this this assault thing with his mom and sister. And I always heard he was going through shit because his relationship with his wife was on the rocks. And he didn't like what is family had to say about the woman. He loved either way. I don't know that Cheney ever did anything like that. But like I said, I don't think it was a big deal that he said Satan, and I really didn't give shits why moved on and listen, let me get the Darren criss. I'm glad Darren criss one for the assassination of Johnny research. I've given him ship before this show. I'm not going to stop here. I love that show. I read for that show, as you know, I was gonna play I was up for playing Johnny beside cheese. Brother who I looked like a little bit? Unfortunately, I'm about seventy pounds heavier, and it wouldn't work. But they would I wish to told me that going in with a love to have been a Ryan Murphy show, but it didn't work out anyhow Darren criss one and he should've he was fantastic. Playing. The gay murderer Andrew Cunanan. But I don't like to Darren criss pretends to be straight. Now. I have no solid proof. He's gay. I just feel it with every fiber of my by like, I feel Travolta like I feel Tom Cruise like we all feel a bunch of people. And I know he has a girlfriend and all that ship. The you can't tell me you can play to homosexuals for two of Ryan Murphy shows glee and the assassination of Johnny resod and expect me to believe you're straight. I know AJ you'll lay off the guy, but who wants to be I know fine. I get it just be real it. Just I just wish people really don't take on the whole gay Genda when he said, I'll no longer gonna play gain a film or a TV show. I will no longer be a straight boy who takes away a role for a gay, man. I told you straight guys don't say straight. Boy, we say straight guy. Gay guy, say straight. Boy, it's just it's a tell just stop talking all righteous like that. And then and then, you know, not be honest with everybody, it's insulting. And if I were anyone in the LGBT set LGBTQ you pissed off. And then what the fuck was he talking about with his acceptance speech, apparently he shot everybody by saying he was the first Filipino American to win a Golden Globe. I've said this before but being half Filipino is one of my favorite things about me. I feel like I have been given superhero Cape. And I'm glad to step up to that plane. What listen Chris Darren criss lived his life as a white guy. Come on. He hasn't been subjected to implicit or explicit biases. I just look at him. He's a white kid. Okay. Yeah. I know his mother's Filipino. But don't tout diversity as if you represent it that to me would be insulting to people of. Color who really have to deal with the issues that I don't think Darren criss ever had to deal with. And then he got up and thanked his firecracker Filipino mother. So mom, I know you're watching this. You're usually responsible for most of the good things in my life. I love you dearly. I got a good idea. One take your mom and not take your fake girlfriend. How about that this week killed two birds with one stone? Now, I was bohemian rhapsody winning very interesting to me, I have not seen this movie. And I'm not gonna like this movie. I know AJ you're wrong. All you guys on the podcast obsessed page told me, it's great. I love queens music. I love, Freddie. Mercury. That's why. I don't wanna see Rummy Malik play him. I can't take those big fucking fake teeth. It distracts the hell outta me. It's distracting as Christie Mets is in. This is us. I can look at it. What's even weirder? Is that Sasha baron Cohen who was attached to that script to play, Freddie? Mercury for six years was sitting so close to queen's Brian May and those two fought and argued as that project fell apart with Sasha baron Cohen as the lead. Sasser said he hoped to present awards and all view of Freddie, mercury's hedonistic lifestyle. That's when he was going around talking about the project, but you know, Brian May and other people in the band. Didn't find him. Bright. Didn't find Sasha baron Cohen right for the part. And that's when things started getting shitty. You know, a lot of the bandmates were more concerned with protecting the band's legacy. Put it that way. While Sasha baron Cohen wanted to really get into freddy's lifestyle Sasha baron Cohen was upset back in the day when they were making this because Brian May said to him this is gonna be a really great movie because it's got an amazing thing that happens in the middle and Sasha baron Cohen said what happens in the middle. And Brian May said, you know, FREDDY dies, and Barron Collins have well, what happens in the second half of the movie, and Brian May said, well, we see how the band carries on from strength strength. And Colin goes, listen, not one person's going to see a movie with a lead character dies from aids. And then you see how the ban carries on. And I agree with them. There are amazing stories about Freddie, Mercury. The guy was wild. There stories of little people walking around parties with plates cocaine on their heads, you know, but Brian. May particularly didn't want those stories told they wanted to protect their legacy as a ban and to his credit Sasha baron Cohen said Brian as a great musician, but is not a great movie producer and Cohen knows his way around a movie said even introduced them to high profile filmmakers, like Tom Hooper and David fincher as possible directors during their six years together working on the project, but those options didn't work out. Instead, they went with drummer. Please pedophile Bryan singer who if you noticed wasn't mentioned or thanked in Romney Malik speech when he won the Golden Globe. And by the way, Romney Malik. Look look Titus fuck that night. Let me just leave leave that there. But he didn't look straight at all didn't sound straight either. But anyhow that happens during award season. But when Sasha baron Cohen left the project and twenty thirteen there were reports that recreated differences with clean and the band drummer. Roger Taylor latest said that Barron. Combe was let go because the surviving members of the band didn't want the film to be a joke. And they said Sasha baron cones to recognizable to play, Freddie. Mercury. He also called Cohen an asshole. I'm on record saying Sasha baron Cohen. But it'd been a much better. Freddie mercury. But the proof is in the pudding since Rummy Malik one and the movie one, but there's no way it will win any Oscars not one. And by the way, as many of you know, if you don't know, you should know now, many people many studios, literally pay the the board of the the golden glove the farm the foreign critics they get paid to win these awards. It's just that simple. Okay. So always remember there's money changing hands when some people win awards. Let me thank my tippy top might criminal crop might top the paps. Allie chichi Traian net Mahoney. Cross Angelique Keller Audra fortune the three CS crisslow von g lease Chris Lewis and Chris star, Debbie Anderson, George Kansas, the two Kathryn speed and Stewart Kellyanne Ozzy poor Mattie Valentinus, Melanie Howell, Melissa spiritual. Nicole Patterson, Patricia Markel, Ryan Wolfe. Sarah, Sisley Galloway Todd brand and Wendy McAfee. Thank you guys for hanging on waiting to get that correct list. Finally, but it will stay correct from here on it. And by the way, was watching clips the Kevin Spacey Trump now, you know, I feel about the Kevin Spacey situation. I don't think he'll be found guilty here. I'm almost positive. He will not. And I told you last week that I was curious why the prosecution hired the lawyer Mitchell Garabedian a man known for going after huge settlements for sexual assault. Victims of the clergy Garabedian is known to get huge settlements from the church. Well, he was known for that. There was one victim of actually was awarded ready. Fifty six million dollars. I don't know what has to happen to you to get fifty six million. But whatever. But now the courts have gotten less likely to award that much money to anybody. So now, it's more likely the amount you're gonna get his fifty grand. Believe it or not now think of the difference between fifty grand and fifty six million. She just Christ. But it's become a cottage industry now. And all guys like Mitchell Garabedian are all money hungry lawyers who lineup victims and go after payday after payday. It's gotten to the point where one victims case is no different than the other victim. They're all walking around talking about twenty five to fifty thousand dollars feet. So I'm telling you that's not gonna figure in Spacey's victims favor. The fact that he hired a guy who goes after money who goes after a settlement that doesn't look good going after money. Not Justice does not look good. And on top of that. I already saw and heard something, but I don't necessarily like, but I think is already swayed things in Kevin Spacey's favor the prosecutor called him Spacey while the court used his true surname Fowler. Prosecutors starstruck guys. Is failing to see that Fowler is the charged person not Spacey in a court roll the as already been accused of giving Fowler special treatment. Okay. This does not look good for this young man in tuck it not cool for the victim. Some of you have heard about a story that happen here in West Hollywood, that's really fucking creepy. The political the democratic donor named Ed buck who just happened to have a random black guy die and his West Hollywood house the other night wouldn't wouldn't be that big a deal, except for the fact that it's the second black guy to be found dead in his home with buck there in the last seventeen months a year and a half ago. It was another guy younger guy more or less drug-addicted HIV positive dude name Jim Elmore who was found dead in bucks house. Good thing. Jamal more left a note behind telling anyone who. Listened that this guy at buck ruined his life. He basically took him home one day and jet that in with crystal meth and Jamal more OD Moore's note, virtually said, Ed buck ruin my life by injecting me with mess. He left out in his diary, not a note, a diary. And now this new guy who hasn't been identified so far turned up dead. The other day, you should see the people the streets of West Hollywood is screaming for buck to be locked up. How could this happen to men of died in eighteen months inside Ed bucks, West Hollywood apartment, what has been described as a death chamber for black men? It's also been referred to as Jordan peels horror movie. Get out basically come to life. Buck is a sixty five year old creep. He recently resigned from the steering committee of the stonewall democratic club stonewall, of course, the keyword, which is the Greenwich Village gay bar that that began the gay rights movement. I tell you about that headline after the cops came and raided the giant and beat him bunch of gay guys back in the sixties. The headline daily news, boy, we come a long way cops raid, homo nest, Queen bees stinging med. Anyhow, ed. Buck gives a lot of money thousands and thousands of dollars to some people LA mayor Eric Garcetti gets those envelopes. So does LA district attorney, Jackie Lacey. He's also given money to US Senate candidate and state Senator Kevin Billy own. He's also giving money to Gavin Newsom. Our new governor he spreads his money around to get access and influence into these powerful circles, and what you'd be shocked to learn that he also previously donated to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama. Of course, you wouldn't because he's a crepe. You know, it's look it's one thing to find a twenty six year old, dude. Denting your house lying in an actress with drug paraphernalia everywhere. It's another thing when it happens twice. So yesterday the LA county sheriff's department homicide bureau began an investigation into the death of this black guy in his fifties. And they're also now conducting a secondary review of Moore's deaths. And back in last July. The district attorney's office declined to file charges in the journal more case because they said the insufficient evidence. Insufficiency? Now, they're like, wait a minute. Let's go back and check that out. These weren't accidents on not going to save a murders either. But you can call them expected disasters or assumed tragedies is different ways. You can describe these two people dying. I don't know what else you can call it. What an old gay guy Laura's men to his apartment for dangerous sexual encounters. There is evidence from Djamil Moore's journal and from other men who say that buck promises money to people and then injects them was crystal meth for his own gratification. K you're dying. He's jerking off. He gets off on this. He gets high while black is die. Sounds like a T shirt, you'd think after Moore's family made the dead sons journal public things would change or at least nobody would die there or God. Forbid, some cops might not on the fucking door and talk the buck. In. No and those pages that Moore left behind. He says that book introduced him to narcotics in one excerpt from December twenty sixteen he wrote, I honestly don't know what to do. I become addictive drugs and the worst one at that. Ed buck is the one to he gave me my first injection of crystal meth, it was very painful, but after all the troubles, I became addicted to the pain and fetish fantasy fetish slash fantasy. My life is at an all time high right now. And I mean that from all ways, I ended up back at bucks house again and got manipulated into slamming drugs, again, I even went to the point where I was forced to doing four within a two day period. This man is crazy. And it said will I ever get help? If it didn't hurt so bad kill myself. But I'll let Ed buck to it for now. And in talking to friend of mine who let's say his seen the world from that side. This is some that goes on and a lot more houses than just f- bucks. There are men who invite dudes to their house and pay them to take drugs and and party in play meaning to get high and perform sexual acts, and when I went over the the coroner's report from twenty seventeen it says that buck's home was a treasure trove of drugs, and there are other men who've confirmed to reporters at the Daily Beast and other other news agencies. What have you that? He has to be the one to inject you with the mess. He likes to have the control over the victim that the more you take the more money. He's willing to pay you. So it's like a game of chicken. But when you broke and living on the street, and someone's dying few on a bucks in front of you. Why wouldn't you play with that extra hot dose of crystal meth or heroin, whatever the fuck it pushing veins. Some somebody's guys don't wanna wake up tomorrow. And I mean. And God knows what kind of sex acts of being performed. But that works on vulnerable people who need money. Police and politicians of very aware of guys like this, and they were obviously aware of Ed bucks predilections. But part of the sick thinking aside from the money. He donates part of the thinking is, unfortunately, while these are basically sick homeless drug addicted black guy there even HIV who cares. Living out of shopping carts on skid row the sleeping on cardboard in the park downtown. Now, that's partly true. There are plenty guys who recruits who aren't homeless though as much as they're reckless with their lives and truly want a court danger for those people listen for those people nobody made you climb up those steps, but for the truly drug addicted guy, this is terribly sad. Any man who preys on the weak is of very dark salt and six months ago. The system district attorney's office said they weren't going to prosecute even though there are survivors. Then buck who spoke and could testify to the fact that he injected them against their will I don't know about against their will that's a little bit. Why are you doing over there? What the fuck maybe? But I think not anyhow that six months ago. Okay. Even though there was some RBIs. How'd you like to be the mother of that first victim Jim Elmore? I heard a story that add more left l a couple years ago and returned to his mother's house in Texas. So he got his shit together in Texas, and he flew back to LA because buck sent him a plane ticket and his mom Jovan to the airport, and she asked them to texter when he landed six hours later, she gets a phone call telling her her son is dead. But up until now cops were treating this as an accidental overdose. That's about to change as this investigation grows. And there was the stirred disturbing images on Twitter last night talk about a rabbit hole. I was getting skin. I have to take a shower at the looking at some of the pictures. I looked at their even pictures of black, dude. Standing in front of a huge American flag with boxer briefs on accepting poll, his heart on out of his underwear. And there were pictures of Ed buck appearing to make with look somewhat. Like he's trying to make his lips look like a chimpanzee. And he's pushing his ears out to look like a chip. I don't know what the fuck they're doing itself. And there are some gay guys on Twitter describing that scene is something called slave play. And if you slide into some of these sites, you'll see guys asking what fetishes a you into and you'll see bondage master and slave. Listen straight. People have crazy fetishes to. On a lighter note. I remember my buddy Chico used to tell me about what he did with his ex girlfriend. Now, I can't at the time Chico's like three hundred pounds. Always good looking do, but three hundred fucking pounds close to it anyhow. And he told me he was dating this this beautiful stripper name Zoe, and she was going for ride Chico had some money back, then he was buying everything. But listen, he was happy getting lady. No. But he told me he used to strap on tool belt he was completely naked. But he wore a tool belt, and he would not on her door. And she answer it and she'd had like a negligee on like, she was acting like this this this tool guy interrupted a day and Chico and not gonna door. All naked hurt yet. Trouble at the pipes. Let me have a look and uncaught them Florida. You know, and he was a fucking ball. I got another friend of mine who had an Asian wife and they play a game where he's an American GI. And he finds her in a rice field, and basically rapes it, but I mean, it was consensual. This is what they like to do. She was Asian and the the image of an American GI stumbling on her and having having his way with her turned her on and turn my friend on it made them happy. I love it. Good for them. But I've always known guys like Ed buck to exist. I've seen flashes of the underside of L A, nightlife. And sometimes these things don't always happen at night. And it's not always about wealthy older gay men and a homeless drug addict younger gut just last month, a really popular newsman LA named Chris boroughs, a married guy in his forties with a young daughter was found dead at a shitty days in Glendale, California, talked about the pressing and there was a guy in the room. Try to resuscitate him before calling the police haven't heard much about that story lately. But trust me, he didn't have a fucking heart attack. Believe me there were drugs and gay sex involved. Secret lives public debts. Very sad. It's very Hollywood. And it's very famous bitch. Okay. Recipe time giving you this recipe after the show's usual sign off because I bet a bunch of people left the show. This is like getting an extra song on the album, if you wait two minutes and hear nothing but dead air, you get that extra song that makes everybody had any listen, I got a recipe here that you'll you'll love me for this is a surefire way to look at a pack of chicken and turn on its s day. It's my sister's simple recipe that she played around with one Sunday, we stumbled onto something something amazing. It's really really simple as most of my recipes. And I'll tell you I'll tell you right now have this on a Sunday. This is something about this dish that screams Sunday. When we were growing up. We have a lot of chicken as second course on Sunday, always pasta. I obviously naturally, but whenever the men worn fishing on Sundays chicken was our fullback dish, sometimes chicken cacciatore, sometimes chicken, lemon, butter, whatever. But you'll see what I'm saying. In a second. This is this is a chicken Scotty ELO and Scott yellow translates into shoemaker start bombing shoe stopped but yellow shoemaker AJ. What is chicken after do shoes? I know it's weird number one at Tian's of nuts. The very creative with work in the English language. But from what I heard from my all relatives, it's because when you got chicken bones sticking out of your mouth it resembles resemble a shoemaker that when they keep the nails in the mount as their fucking banging out his shoe. That's one idea the other side of my family like to tell me the name came. Because even when you're a man of little means, let's say, you're shoemaker, you can still have. This dish and union family could eat like chinks. Be the way either way makes sense. So what I do. I is I cut the chicken breasts into two or three pieces get an ice shot knife. Put your palm on top of that the backbone of the night and cracked the ribs and make the big nice Brest into three pieces. Keep the skin on very important. I leave the wings and thighs and the legs whole sometimes you go to a restaurant, and they crack the the wing and in the leg, I'm side, the crack the in light of the two pieces you can do that too. But it's work intensive and usually a leg bone unit fucking meat cleaver for that's don't worry about that. What I do. I I cut the chicken the pieces, and I start frying the breasts and the other pieces skin side down. Obviously, the Briscoe skin side down the other pieces can go any which way, but chicken thighs chicken, breast skin side down. Get a nice good crisp on them before you turn them over. Now, a lot of people baked chicken. I know we big chicken too when I made chicken buttering, garlic. We used to bake it his kids to. And that's what we did on Sundays. But I like the crunch factor that frying gives you. I like that. There's always a couple of pieces on the ends that get cooked too much, and they just they crunching disintegrated the out I liked that flavor. Make sure as always using a couple of tablespoons, maybe four tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil mixed that with some vegetable oil, even some canola oil. Sometimes I'm frying like to mix vegetable or canola with extroversion because I like the way that's below burns. But also a good a good extroverts novels expensive. And if I could save some oil here, and there I do so either by Luzio with some extra but some can also vegetable. Don't flower, the chicken just don't just fry it naked. But by all means season it with salt pepper, even a little better use Dobo, which is put out by Goya and be liberal with it. The only thing I do liberal in my life season food. What I also do. Sometimes I smash a couple of big closer Golic. Don't die some smashing with your fist on the side of a knife. And you put them in a frying chicken toward the end. But all you gotta do is fried chicken as you normally would. That's it. This is what Rowsley does next that. She turned his dish on its ear. So it simple after the chicken is done. You put the pieces on a serving plate and move into the site. Now, it is separate frying pan. I put a half a stick of butter. Maybe even the whole the whole stick. It depends on much chicken you serving if you've served fucking twelve thirteen fourteen Pete, then go whole hosted a, bud. If he's serving four or five half is fine. Just use enough that when it melts you can drizzle over all the chick. All right. Take the butter take about eight closer Golic and dice that up. Nice and small and some people by golly already diced up in the water and the jar. That's fine. But be liberal with it. Because she didn't want a lot of got to be a lot of garlic flavor in this chicken. Okay. Also, along with the garlic diced up get a few sprigs of fresh Rosemary. I have the best thing for this. Because my neighbor five houses down has gigantic Rosemary hedges like four foot high. So whenever I wanna make a good dish. But Rosemary, I go down the street. Walk walked dog and take a handful of free Rosemary down the street. Listen, if you could save a buck or to do it fucking by three dollars a rose man when it's down the street for free even pick lemons off your neighbor's tree, I do it. There's a neighbor on a corner who has grapefruit arms, and lemon that fall to treat. I hop. The fuck and fencing grab women all the time. Do it. Get arrested any garlic diced up a few sprigs of Rosemary, take one of the Spriggs and chop that fines even sprinkled over the chicken, the other two three you can leave home. Now saute all that until the garlic stocks to turn Brown when the dollar starts to turn Brown. I want you to trap in the juice from half, a lemon and about two or three tablespoons of balsamic vinegar and swelled that around for about thirty seconds. That's it. That's it. And you're gonna pour that beautiful hot delicious mixture. Over the chicken. And remember always have a good Lova talion bread around some bread. That's nice and flaky not spongy. If it spongy put it in the oven and making Chris get good bread. God it because you're gonna wanna dip this read into that juice when you wash down the last of chicken, and it's a it's a simple dish. It's a peasant dish yet again, you can call chicken spots yellow. But these days my family, call chicken Rosalia because my sister kinda came out with that. Twist Leno should think you don't have to wait till Sunday. If you got chicken lane around defrosted make it let me know as soon as you can I'm getting hungry just talking about. Okay. A little Golden Globe a little rough sex a little murder a little Pete Davidson's. Well, hung a little chicken recipe who the fuck is giving you shows like this. I'm AJ Benza and that was famous at bitch and everything else. Talkies friday.

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Best Of 2018: Actor Rami Malek On Becoming Freddie Mercury

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Best Of 2018: Actor Rami Malek On Becoming Freddie Mercury

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Walt Disney pictures Mary Poppins returns now nominated for four Golden Globes, including best actress, Emily blunt best actor Lin Manuel. Miranda best original score and best picture of the year. Mary Poppins returns. From WHYY in Philadelphia. I'm Terry gross with fresh air. Happy new year. Today after Rami Malik. He plays, Freddie. Mercury lead singer of Queen in the film bohemian rhapsody. The role is a big departure from Alex starring role on mister robot. As a withdrawn hacker to play mercury Malik had to learn how to sing dance wield a microphone and exude mercury confidence and charisma onstage. There was a moment where I stepped on stage in sequin Leotard leaves nothing to the imagination and one point. I said, listen if you're going to play a man who Iraq this thing out like nobody's business, you better own this. Oh. Happy new year today, we conclude our holiday series, featuring favourite interviews of the year. The interview we're about to hear was one of the most popular interviews on our website. It's with Rami Malik who stars in the movie bohemian rhapsody as Freddie Mercury. The lead singer and songwriter of Queen the title of the film comes from the title of one of their most famous songs. She was killed. Gun in yen. Much Reagan east. I sit. And. Really mad. Queens. Biggest hits were in the seventies and early eighties like bohemian rhapsody. We will rock you. We are the champions and another one bites the dust, but those records have endured beyond their time on the charts. We will rock you, and we are the champions became popular chance at stadium sports events. Freddie. Mercury was very theatrical performer with a big personality. He died of complications related to aids in nineteen Ninety-one Rami Malek's performances. Freddie, Mercury is a big contrast to his starring role in the TV series mister robot as it withdrawn hacker with social anxiety disorder that start with a scene from bohemian rhapsody. It's nineteen seventy five and Freddie Mercury. And the members of Queen are in the office of record executive played by Mike Myers tacking about the record. They're about to release, Freddie. Mercury speaks. I recall the album. A night at the opera. Are you aware that no one actually likes are like do you? I do don't misunderstand diving. It's a rock and roll record with the scale of the pace of of great tragedy. The wit of Shakespeare, the unbridled joy of musical theatre musical experience rather than just another record something for everyone. Something. Something that will make people feel belongs to them make rest with cross boundaries will will speaking bloody tongues. If we want to. Malik. Welcome to fresh air. So much fun to watch as Freddie Mercury. How did you get the part of, Freddie? Mercury. Did you ask to addition? Or are you invited? I was invited. Which is feels like a very rare thing, especially when you're on dishing for someone as magnificent, and I contact as Freddie Mercury I was do shooting mister robot and the producers Graham king Dennis Sullivan called mail to Los Angeles. And I knew what the meeting was about. So I started watching as much archive footage as possible sat down in their office about five six hours later, I left that office being told that I had the job something that I did not quite believe driving back home. But I guess as append out. I did singing part of your addition. It ended up being part of that audition. I warn them. I was not a singer. I told him don't play the piano. What I do when I'm out on dancefloor could be considered something having to do with rhythm. But probably not. I ended up flying myself out to London because I wanted to be prepared. It was never officially Greenland yet at this point. And I started practicing everything singing, piano. I started working with a movement coach because I knew that one day we were going to do a proof of concept, which means they were going to take me to Abbey Road. And film me singing is Freddie, and they had a camera on me as well. So they wanted to see my physical interpretation as well. So I had to sing to prove that a some point in the future. Whatever I was doing would sync up to the way, Freddie, sang eventually. I don't think anybody really wanted to hear my voice as much as they would love to hear Mr. mercury's. Yeah. All the music credits in the movie, a at the end of the credits are attributed to Queen. So. So you saying as you were filming, but the music that we're hearing actually, Freddie Mercury and Queen. It's actually in Malcolm -ation, I will say the large majority of it is Freddie Mercury. I went out every day and sang at the top of my lungs because that's the only way to match what he's doing. He's giving everything one hundred ten percent always and in order to sink it up properly use bits of my voice in the beginning. It will lead in with my voice, and then pick up for the majority using Freddie mercury's voice, you know, tops entails as you call it what I quickly realized was no one can sing. Like, freddie. Mercury. And nor can I it very difficult to get my voice up to those high notes at some point my voice breaks and breaks pretty quickly when I'm trying to ascend. What Freddie Mercury can do? There's actually. Scene where you're at the piano, singing sketch of behemoth rhapsody, and your voice breaks is any of that you. Yes. Some of that is actually me we have an incredible sound engineer named Paul Massey on their who found ways to I think deceive all of us. But there are parts that are me. I think the the parts that break. Yes. That would be considered rahmael. She we just hear that bit. Sure, let us know if you can tell which part is you. Okay. So this is a scene from the movie Bahia in rhapsody where Romney Malik, Freddie. Mercury is at the piano in his living room singing Baheen rhapsody. Okay. So the final note his. Voice breaks. What are we hearing? Gosh, the majority of that is obviously, Freddie Mercury. But somehow they've they've found a way to to me in there. And I can't I really can't tell you feel so seemless to me. And that's I think one of the greatest aspects of this film is even I watch, and I cannot tell now I just want to reiterate that the majority of this. I mean, so much of it is Freddie's voice, and I'd never want to ever step in and pretend that I let myself to so much of this. So now that you've taken singing lessons or you more comfortable singing. No, no. I say, I'm more comfortable dancing, more comfortable being onstage. I enjoy the piano. Now, I find it meditative at one point plate upside down in the film. And I thought oh of all the challenges you're giving me here page twenty and the stage direction safe, Freddie, plays bohemian rhapsody upside down, and I thought come on give a break. Did you not play at all? When you started. No, I'd never played peon. Never touched a piano. I had to learn the guitar is well for crazy little thing called love, which didn't make it into the film. But everything was it was like going to a conservatory of music every day one hour to hour spent singing, two hours PNO for hours and movement in choreography. It was it was fascinating. It was Bella going back to school. So what can you play on your own only bohemian rhapsody, and we? Okay noodle every once in a while. So I'll call those original works. So beaming rhapsody is book ended by a busy like a a reproduction of the famous Queen performance at Live Aid in nineteen eighty five. And for people who don't remember or were in alive. Then that was this you've benefit concert in nineteen eighty-five for for the benefit of people suffering from the famine the opium and your performance. There were multiple stages for this. The Queen said your performance the Queen performance wasn't Wembley stadium in London to an audience of seventy two thousand people. So you as Freddie Mercury had to reproduce that performance. No anyone can see that performance on YouTube. It's easy to see. So I know you had no problem watching the actual Live Aid performance, which is considered one of the great performances in rock history. So I'm sure you must have studied at moved by. I move including learning, Freddie, mercury's microphone technique because he he he'd basically be handed the mic on the stand. But not not on the base. So is just like the the poll with the Mike on it. And then he'd use that as a prop, you know, starting around on stage and using it as a, you know, strumming like it was a good tar putting it across his his groin as if it were a large phallus, you know, of all the other actress. So tack to us about like studying, Freddie, Mercury during the Live Aid concert. And and also like how he used the microphone. Well, I walked around London for about two months with this half. Mike, and I think now when you say half Mike does that mean like the poll with the Mike on it like the correct? Yeah. You walking around with the Mike owner. Yeah. Walked around with a mic attached to it. I just never wanted to lose focus of what I was doing. And that was a very constant reminder. Sometimes I would tuck the microphone into my backpack. But otherwise, you just look like you're walking around with a piece of metal. And that's quite scary. These days as it looks like a weapon. Exactly. So I kept a Mike on it. Just to remind people. Hey, I'm not out to hurt. Anyone? It was the first thing we shot Live Aid day one we came out. And it was it's that massive crane shot that goes through the audience and comes right up around the piano and opens to Freddie, Mercury myself playing him singing bohemian, rhapsody and. Talk about a baptism by fire. I had never worked that hard in in my life on one particular piece of filming every day. I spent hours with a movement teacher named paulie Bennett. And I always wanted to keep it very spontaneous. But at the same time honor this fantastic performance that he and Queen gave. And it's like you said there are things he does with that microphone. That is defy what the mere mortal can do he whips around with it with you know, violence at times with elegance. He uses as the era guitar sometimes right in front of one of the greatest guitar players of all time, Brian May so as Brian May is crushing on guitar here is Freddie Mercury air guitar in. And he's still a magnificent thing to watch. It's so compelling. And only he could get away with that. So I was wondering when you're onstage. First of all, did you film the Live Aid concert at Wembley? And were there seventy two thousand people in the audience was that like footage from the actual concert. That was like put in in a seamless way to make it look like you are performing to the audience that was actually there in nineteen eighty-five. Where's the CGI? Like, what was the setting who is actually there? Wimbley doesn't exist at that. When there's a new Wembley stadium. Just it doesn't exist. We recreated it on an airfield just outside London. And we did bring in fans actors to be to be Queen fans who actually work weaned fans, and I thought, oh, that's that's terrific will have a lot of support. But at one point I thought well, what if I don't live up to their expectations. This could be the worst thing. I maybe should've just got people. Who have never heard of Queen. And I could have given them a great show. So everything felt daunting. From that perspective. We did have some point thousands of background actors their supporting actors, but never, of course, seventy two thousand that would have taken up the entire budget to be able to do something like that. And logistically would been impossible. It takes guts, if you're Freddie Mercury and you're performing in front of an audience of seventy two thousand people in this use stadium. And you're starting your set by sitting at the piano, alone playing a few chords that everybody knows that they're already going crazy because of that. And then you start singing solo for while before the ban comes in did the confidence where off on you. I don't know how confident you are as Rami Malik. But did you become more confident embracing your Rami Malik south after having embraced, Freddie, mercury's confidence? There was a moment where I stepped on stage in. Sequin Leotard that leaves nothing to the imagination. And at one point. I said, listen if you're going to play man who Iraq this thing out like nobody's business and made everything his own and spontaneously combusted in the most magnificent way on stage, you better own this. And I'll tell you by the end of shooting we came to another concert sequence. And I asked Julian day the costume designer. I said, you know, that the sequin Leotard he said, yes, I said, do you think you can make that for me in ruby red? And he laughed. She looked at me said, well, we've come a long way have. Another thing. We should mention is your teeth. He had what four extra teeth and in his upper mouth, and he had, you know, very buck teeth as a result. And so you had fake teeth that you use made for you by a famous like Hollywood prophetic teeth designer what was it like for you to wear them? Like, how did it change your feeling of your mouth and your ability to talk and sing like not only did you have to seeing, you know, for the performance, even though they weren't necessarily gonna use your voice, you still had to sing. And so you're doing something you're not used to doing singing, and you're doing it with teeth that aren't even yours. Yes. The teeth were difficult to to get used to in the beginning initially. I put them in my mouth a year prior to shooting and immediately felt insecure. I felt like I was on my back foot in a way didn't feel like myself, which did help me quite a bit. But. It was a feeling of insecurity that had to cover them up as well. And I'd been watching so much footage of him. You see him covering his teeth so often that I thought how am I ever gonna do that? Well, as soon as those teeth went in it was second nature found myself covering them up so often, my my lips would dry up. So I found myself licking my lips as he did. But another thing happened. I started to compensate physically by holding my posture better along gating, my body sitting up very straight. And that's something. You also see him do. And I don't know if that was something that affected him or he was born with the elegance that he has. But it did give me a way into understanding a little bit more about him. His name is originally Rupel Ceara, and he wasn't even called that as a kid very strong set of of. Buck teeth and most of the kids in school called him Bucky. So you see this young man who travels from Zanzibar and goes to a boarding school called Saint Peter's in India. He's travels there on ship. He feels very I think removed an isolated and when he comes back to Hans of our his country's in the midst of revolution. They have to immigrate to London, and he's a young man at that point feels like a fish out of water in the nineteen seventies trying to identify himself sexually as well. Let me so much stands in the way of this man becoming who he is. And what I discovered was. There is something burning inside of him this dream that he wants to see realized this music that is so vibrant and uring to exist outside of him and everything stands in his way. But when he gets out on stage, he holds everyone's attention and says, hey, I may have been an outcast and misfit, and I may feel like I don't belong. But here on this stage, we belong together. My guest is Rami Malik who stars in the new movie human rhapsody as Freddie Mercury after we take a short break. We'll talk more about playing, Freddie Mercury. And we'll talk about starring in mister robot. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air. I. Everything. Dope. As you. Considerate. My. The. Support for NPR and the following message. Come from the park has networks new show mythology before science before philosophy before literature. There was mythology. The mythology podcast dramatizes, ancient myths for modern audience and dives into their history origins. And meaning here these age-old stories come to life every Tuesday rate review and subscribe to mythology wherever you get your podcasts. That's get back to my interview with Romney Malik who plays Freddie, Mercury in the new Queen bio pic bohemian rhapsody now also stars in the TV series mister robot. Freddie, Mercury was born in Zanzibar and grew up there. And in India before his family immigrated to England Rummy Malik is American the son of gyp shin immigrants when we left off. He was talking about trying to understand and convey who Freddie Mercury was I had to mystify him somehow and the way to do that was looking at his background. I thought to myself. Here's a young man immigrated to a country defied all obstacles to do what he loved, and that was one thing that that I could understand not to compare myself to him in any way, shape or form. But I am a first generation American my family came from Egypt and saw a better life for their children in the US. And you know, obviously, like so many people they would have loved for us to be doctors and lawyers. My sister is a doctor. So she fulfilled that aspect, but it was very difficult to convince anyone that I wanted to do this. And that I could do this. Did you feel like you were going to be letting them down if you failed that that they came here in annot already born when they came here, but still they probably knew they'd be having children are more children and often with immigrants the idea is it's for the children. So if you failed as an actor would you have been letting let? Them down. Did you did you feel guilty for even trying for an acting career? It's good question. Yeah. I did feel guilty and the only way to compensate for that was just to to give it my all. There was one moment. I was in my apartment that we were living in four of us in a two bedroom apartment, and I was I would wake up early. I was sleeping in in the living room at that point. And I had a stack of Manila envelopes and every morning would get up and put my head shot and resume in the Manila envelopes. And remember, my father one day standing next to my mom, saying we have very Tanegashima, son. And I don't think that he knows that I heard him. But I heard that and it gave me that extra boost I needed to just keep going, and I. I would take those Manila envelopes at his delivering pizza would put them glue them or tape them to every pizza box. I would send out I would keep them behind the register of the fast food restaurant. I would be working at and if anyone even produce Oriel came in they were getting a head shot and resume in there to go back. Did you did you deliver pizzas to like famous producers directors? I did get an audition out of it once and I did. Yeah. I did was for commercial and of still kept in touch with them person gaming the audition. Did you get the commercial? I did not. What was it? For an EMS. Well, I will tell you one day. I did get a call. I got a call from Maura Casey who was a casting director for the Gilmore girls. And she asked to speak with the Romney Malik agent. And I said speaking, and she said, well, can I talk to about Romney Malik coming in and for a role on the Gilmore girls? And I said, yeah. And she's in who am I speaking with? I said this is he and she said, you don't you don't have an agent do. No. But we can work on that. And she started laughing and she said well. Well, are you are you sag or are you part of the Screen Actors Guild a nice as of yet? No. But that's something else. We can we can work on as well. And she kept laughing. And she's like, listen, you're cute calming when you get a representation, and I said, I said, listen, we're we're doing all right? We're having a good time. I see that the scene has only three lines and how about giving a guy break, and if you're laughing now chances are might have you laughing in the room, and she took a few seconds. And she said, you know, what can come on? I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. And I went in on that day and later on that night. I had had a callback for that show. And in between that one of these Manila envelopes that I'd been stuffing sending to every agent in Los Angeles happen to call me in between the. Audition and the callback. And the confluence of the things that happen on that day. Still defy me to have any explanation for them. But it was very profoundly successful day Gilmore girls part, right? Got the part the next day. If you're just joining us, my guess is Rami Malik and stars. Freddie. Mercury in the new Queen movie, but he Mian rhapsody. He also stars mister robot. We're gonna talk about mister robot in a minute. We'll be right back. This is fresh air support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from weeks dot com a web platform for creating your own professional website with wicks, whether it's your first time, creating a website or you're a longtime pro you can do it yourself shoes from hundreds of stunning templates or start from scratch with dragon dropped technology and powerful web features. Join over one hundred twenty five million people already using wicks. Create their own websites. Goto w I x dot com to create yours today. So what will you create planet money tip number seventeen? A great analogy doesn't have to make sense. Beijing one leg. Bob cat covering up. He's crap on a frozen pond. Just make that. Well. Yeah. Planet money a poetic podcast about the economy. Let's talk a little bit about mister robot. Now in this. You're you're somebody who has serious mental health issues serious social problems. It's very hard for you to be with people. You're very withdrawn you literally withdraw into your hoodie most of the time and you're a hacker by night. But you're like a tech worker during the day in the opening episode of season one you walk into a coffee shop Ron's coffee shop, and you sit down with the owner and you start talking to the owner. Of the shop. Let's listen to that scene. Iran. But. Your name's hit. Meta you changed. It Ron when you buy your first Ron's coffee shop six years ago. Now, you got seventeen of them, but they more coming next quarter. And. I like coming here because your wife, I was fast. I mean, you one of the few spots that has fiber connection with gigabit speed. It's good. So good it scratched that part of my mind part that doesn't allow good to exist without condition. So I started intercepting all the traffic on your network. That's when I noticed something strange. I decided to hack you. I know you run a website called Plato's, boys. You're using tore networking to keep the servers automous you made it really hard for anyone to see it. But I saw it. The unin running protocol. It's not as an honest as you think it is whoever's in control, the exit nodes is also in control of traffic, which makes me. The one in control. I must ask you to leave everything all your Email while you're files. All your picks. Get out of here right now on the lease. You want them to find out about the hundred terabytes child pornography serve to your four hundred thousand users. Personally, man, I was hoping it was just going to be some Bedia sems- stuff. You realize how much simpler that would have been. I didn't. Did. I understand what it's like to be different. Very different to. That might done like an expression of sympathy. But right after that Rummy Malik character is offered money by the coffee shop owner to cover this up and Elliott Rami, Alex character. The hacker says that he doesn't care about money. And it turns out he's tipped off the police and has he gets up to leave the coffee shop the police get out of their cars, and they start walking in to bust the coffee shop owner, it's a it's a great scene in kind of hooks you right at the right in episode one. How did you get the part of mister robot? You weren't very well known at the time. I mean, mister robot is really what made you well known. Correct. That that I got the part actually auditioning with that very seen Sam 's male who is the creator of mister robot had seen me do a mini series. That was from Stephen Spielberg, and Tom Hanks and called the Pacific, and at some point I came in with another hundred actors or so and did my best and kept coming in and coming in until finally did a network test and got the role, and I never thought that I would be the lead character in any show, and this proved me wrong. How did you prepare yourself to play someone who's brilliant hacker? But also has serious mental health problems and a very very deep, sadness and loneliness. I mean, even wondering if you talk to therapists, not about your own mental health issues, but about his. I did I ended up reaching out to a psychologist name Jenny Maury. And I asked her if there was any way we could have sessions where we will talk about Elliott Alderson. And let's talk about schizophrenia. Let's talk about dissociate of disorder. Let's talk about social anxiety. And I never quite knew exactly what Elliott was dealing with to start off. So I wanted to cover all the bases. I read books on schizophrenia read, I read books on everything. I watched anything I could get my hands on of someone who was dealing with any of these issues and. I just I tried to absorb as much as I could. And she was incredibly helpful to the point where salmon I would have conversations, and I I had so much insight into it. He he would ask me. How are you? So informed on this. And I told him I've been talking to a psychologist who deals with this all the time. And after a while he said could I have her phone number? I said sure and eventually she was brought on as a consultant for the show. Oh, that's great. That's great. Well, what what is it been like to stay in Elliott's mind for several years in in his like, you know, depressed anxious social, anxiety kind of mind. It was taxing not gonna lie. There were many many hours spent in that mind frame, and it's very isolated lonely place to be he's profoundly alienated. He has an incredibly difficult time talking to people even being physically close to people spent so much time viewing the world from behind a monitor and keyboard, but at the same time he's able to to have some sort of resilience and pursuance to go out and say, I want to change the status quo. And in fact, I wanna go when step further I wanna save the world those things. In themselves. When you when you bridge them together for such a complex life that it. It's difficult every night to to walk away from that and jump back in into my own shoes. He hides under his hoodie whenever he's in public. I'm wondering if you've got an interesting responses either from hackers because he's a hacker from people with mental health issues or from hoodie manufacturers. Before we did the pilot. I just walked around the streets of New York with my head down in the hoodie on. And I said said to our costume designer early on I want an fit that if you're are surveilling him from above or anywhere. He can put his head down in blend into the concrete. And that was the way I approached preparing for him at some points. I would go into elevators. And I remember trying to identify where the cameras were and for days I wanted to see if I could go undetected and not have any human contact with anyone and that takes quite a toll on you. But it does make you aware of how how much we are being watched in the world. If you're just joining us, my guest as Rami Malik, and he stars in the new Queen movie as Freddie Mercury and he also stars in this series mister robot. We're gonna take a short break, then we'll be right back. This is fresh air. This message comes from NPR sponsor Samuel Adams of all the beers. Sam Adams has ever brewed Boston lager is their all time favorite with its distinctive balance of spicy hops, sweet roasted malts and smooth finish. It stood the test of time and helped launch the whole craft beer revolution. Sam Adams, Boston lager, full flavored rich and complex. There's nothing quite like that taste of in original Boston beer company, Boston mass saver responsibly. Hey, this guy rise and on the next head radio. Our stories of remarkable transformations in the face of extraordinary circumstances. I often forget that my limbs are synthetic. That's how well they were. You can find the Ted radio hour wherever you listen to podcasts. So your parents are Coptic Christians who emigrated from Egypt. Most Americans don't know anything about Coptic Christians where there other children of immigrants in your neighborhood. Did you live in Coptic community in LA? I went to Coptic churches as a child, and that's about of three to four hour service, which. Was in a in a language. I didn't understand I speak and understand era bec-, but there's a Coptic language that was very foreign to me. I remember the smell of incense being overpowering. I remember sitting with the men on one side and seeing the women sit on the other side and understanding that this was a world that was very foreign to the second. I exited and was in living in the San Fernando Valley surrounded by such a diverse culture, we grew up surrounded by a Latin community of Filipino community, African Americans everything Asians, there was everything around me. And so I felt diversity. But then there was also this feeling of a world that I was estranged from in this Coptic commune. Unity that my parents were very involved in also went to to Catholic school at one point. So I couldn't quite wrap my head around everything that was happening. So quickly to me in terms of the world. I lived in and the faith. I was I won't say imposed upon me. But something that born into born into. Yes, did you have a hard time explaining to your fellow students in Catholic school that you weren't Catholic? That's a very good question. Yes. I did. Yeah. I didn't didn't know how to explain that. When it came time to do confession. I wasn't going to be participating in that. I had a lot of explaining to do. I felt as a kid I was born here. But my my brother, and I really didn't speak English to about four or five. So it was it was quite difficult to assimilate. I mean, my name seems very easy to pronounce this Dana age not for everybody. But at that time for the first ten years of my life known pronounce my name is Rami. So it was very difficult. I think forming a sense of identity, and perhaps that's why I gravitated to creating so many of my own in private moments of creating characters as a kid did people think your name was Ramey. They thought it rhymed with Sammy. So Sammy Rammie, oh because your brother Tammy correct only took me till high school where I've found the confidence to tell everybody know my name is Rami you known as Rammie for for years. It's very upsetting thing to think about that. I didn't have the confidence to correct anyone at that point. Did your parents speak English when you were growing up mostly Arabic, but yes, quite a bit of English. My. Dad was very extremely well read. And yeah, my mom and dad spoke English, and we split time at home speaking between air, bacon English. Do you know why they moved to the US? You know, I think. Look they lived in in in Egypt was a majority Muslim country. I think it's under ten percent that is Christian their Coptic Christian. And I don't know that that was the exact reason, but you know, might dad saw an opportunity and his work introduce him to to the west, you know, he was a travel agent and had a very specific vantage point into the west and western affluents in lifestyle and he loved American films as a kid. So I think there were there was a various curious aspect of him who who wanted to see a part of that realized for himself. You know, you mentioned that Coptic Christians are very much in a minority in Egypt, which is a predominantly Muslim country six Coptic Christian pilgrims were killed in an attack Egypt. That ISIS claimed responsibility for I don't know if you still have family in Egypt, but have their lives been changed in recent years, both from like ISIS, but also how the pro democracy movement after the Arab spring kind of failed. No president else. See runs the country so much family there. And it's quite sad. I keep up with everything that's happening with them. And and you know, these shootings these bombings these attacks. It's it's difficult for a family that has. Has has a history of going to church on Sunday, and seeking refuge and shelter and praying for their families and for their future, and seeking that type of solace in a place that at any moment might be bombed or someone might come in. And. Come in. And. To be quite brutally honest gun. Everyone down is is something that is a reality that they live with and quite a incredibly sad thing to think that they have to endure on the Sunday's that they used to cherish so very much and the shocking thing too is that some Americans have lived through that or been killed by such acts in the very recent past. Yeah, I mean it destroys me when any any active violence is taken. And you know, this one is something that is very close to me. I'm I'm very alerted in in a with a relationship that is so immediate that it makes my heart starts to pound right now thinking about it one of the predict. A lot of actors who are of Arab descent or from predominantly Muslim countries. One of their predicaments is in this was maybe a specially true if you years ago that the role that they were likely to be cast in was terrorists terrorists number one terrorist three in you. You had your shot as a terrorist on twenty four. We're you conflicted about taking the part. Very conflicted. Yeah. And to the point where I made a very resolved moved to not do those roles any longer. One I didn't want. I didn't want to be that the reflection of of my work or or the reflection of the community as a whole, and I also didn't want to live with that in in my head space, and and in my soul. I mean, you invest so much into this. And I just don't wanna call through any more time trying to put myself in any of that space or try to rationalize NFL it because I don't think it is rational in any any way, shape or form Rami Malik. It's really been so great to talk with you. Thank you so much. Thank you for your performance. It's been an absolute pleasure. I don't usually share this much myself. But I figured what what better place to do it then on NPR with you, Terry. Thank you very much. Rami Malek stars in the film bohemian rhapsody. As Freddie Mercury. He also stars in the USA network series mister robot. Our interview was recorded in over and that concludes our holiday series, featuring some favorite interviews of the year tomorrow, we return to new interviews. My guest will be the author of the new book punishment without crime. However, massive misdemeanor system traps. The innocent and makes merica more unequal Alexandra Nadda poff rights that our system for dealing with petty offenses disproportionately punishes the poor and working class. Now to pop is a former assistant federal public defender, and is now a law professor at the university of California Berkeley, a hoop will join us. But. Every day. Fresh Air's executive producer is Danny Miller. Our Teco director is Audrey Bentham. Our associate producer for digital media is Molly seavy nesper. Roberta shorrock directs the show. I'm Terry gross. All of us at fresh air review. A heavy media.

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Just can you imagine having a grandfather folks in your family who wrote citizen Kane, the great nephew of Joe, mango hedge, the director screenwriter all About Eve. So obviously in your family and Ben's family to history of cinema. And would you classify this year is a good? I've seen four or five of the top ones. Would you classify it as a good year for movies? Yeah. I would survive as a good year for Mobis. You know, there's some some, you know, questionable choices. But they're they're always are this year per, and I think the conversations about it have been good. So yeah, I would say this was a good year for movies. I certainly enjoyed. Most of the movies nominated for for best picture. I think the lock of the year every year there's a category, and I feel like, oh, that's that's an easy one is Christian bale lead actor in vice? Do you feel the same way? I think he is as much a lock as you can get I think Alfonzo Koran winning best director is a bigger lock. But but yes, I think Christian bale is a is a good lock. You got to lay. Like, no sorry. I by the way, Christian bale is not a lot of Rome. Rami Malik is the lockups army laundry yet Rami Malecki gotta lay six hundred one hundred on Ravi mouse. He was in bohemian rhapsody. Yeah. First of all, I thought it was very good and in both cases Christian bale in Romney, you had a physical component. Where bail looked like Dick Cheney. That's right. And I think that in some ways that net hurt you with some voters because they see it as a character. I am. I am with you. But there is a splint on vice Milan. I love vice and a lot of good friends of mine did not so, but I I thought Christian bale was amazing. And and and I thought Hooley entire cast was fantastic. You know? So I I I was Sam Rockwell. I thought played the best W Bush that anybody has played and Amy Adams does have some chance to win. Also, she's one of the few one of the few that's one of the few compatible competitive categories, a Amy Adams was let's go back to vice some could say, you know, they they made Bush look sometimes a little silly. And you could argue. It was a little heavy handed politically does that hurt a bail. Does that hurt? Best picture. Does that hurt? Vice? Yeah, I think it probably overall hurts it I mean, and I think, you know, Adam McKay who I admire enormously. I think if you were talking about and McKay right now, you go. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was heavily political point. I was trying to skewer these guys effectively. I thought why Rockwell was so good is that, you know, everybody who does Bush sort of place him as a bonehead and sometimes Mary effectively sometimes very funny. I thought Josh Brolin was was good in w thought will Farrell did it masterfully on Saturday Night Live. I thought Rockwell gave him sort of humanity that he's still you still got the feeling that this was somehow frat bro who somehow became president. But just that scene where he's like, you know, eating the barbecue. And Joan it over his shoulder. And he I want you to be won't you be my vice? And I thought rock was. But I think he's a master, and I ban and bail too. I thought they were both just so good. But it looks like Romney Malik is going to win easily again bookstore. They don't get it wrong that much lead actors going to go to Robby Malik bohemian rhapsody. I thought it was a good movie. I just as a kid loved Queen. So I clicked defied the movie as a really good movie. I don't consider Bahamian rhapsody. A great movie. I did think star is born was the most emotional two hours. I spent in a theatre I would give star is born best picture, but it's been remade several times. Does that hurt it that this has been done? It's not original. I I don't know that it hurts it. I mean, this is you know, the Basque average Astor voter is in his sixties. And you know, this is a group people. You know, look, I work for Turner classic movies. I I love the earlier versions of stars some more than others. Now. I look at Adleman remade nearly fifty. A years, you know over forty anyway. And I I agree with you. I thought it was outstanding. You know when I saw it. I thought this is a good bet to win best picture. But now if you really think it's going to win best picture, then you should put some money on it. Because it sixty six to one my wife said that Bradley Cooper was too close to Kris Kristofferson DEA by that as a lead actor. I mean, no, I don't I thought he was I think he's I like Kris Kristofferson. I think he's underrated as an actor. But I think Cooper is better. And I just think that movies better it works better than the seventy six version, the nineteen thirty seven version of the first one is my is my favorite all of them have merit. Most TM fans would would you know? They celebrate the nineteen fifty four version with Judy Garland, that's their favorite. But I think this is a real quick reminder that it's okay to make a remake a classic movie. All this has done is get people more interested in the original movies. And I think this version of stars more than certainly stands on its own. Alright best picture. I'd go star born you would go. Well, I mean, you asking me, well, my favorite was or what's your favorite? What would you pick as your favorite movie? I mean, you know, my favorite movie was eighth grade. And it's not nominated. So I yes, limited jam. I thought eighth grade was unbelievable. I have I have a young daughter. But by the way, good column at not why didn't it get nominated. I don't know. I think it's crazy. And I and I think she should have been nominated Elsie Fisher. I thought she was unbe. I think how you can be a better actor than than she was of the movies that are nominated. I mean, I, you know, I thought Romo was pretty great. And I I got no problem with Roma winning, and I think it is going to win although green book is competitive, and that's gonna that's gonna call if green book wins. There is going to be a tremendous amount of hand wringing and articles about how the academy still doesn't get it on Monday morning, by the way, let let me insert this. Regardless of what I think politically about Kevin Hart. He made some inappropriate comments apologized. They're going to go host Lewis this year, the number the ratings through the years have been dipping. What do we do with the Oscars? I saw Barry Diller had a quote this week that net. Flicks is is killed the theater experience. People stay home. What is Hollywood? He said it was irrelevant. I don't agree with that. But I do think it's a different world now net flicks in the Amazon prime subscription services TV's made a huge comeback in that term. Well, what do you make a where Hollywood is now with the Oscars? Well, I mean, you you you first of all you, and I as professional hosts we all like to see shows without hosts, right, right? I I'd like there to be. I think they add value. Frankly, I think when it's done, right. That said, you know, producing this show with give out twenty four wards and all the other things that this show has to do is incredibly difficult to produce time is in. Issue. I am enormously sympathetic to the president of the academy. John Bailey for everything that he's getting pulled at and you know, the network is in his ear like three hours, three hours, three hours. We gotta get it down to three hours. And then they work we works with the governors and they come up with an answer. And then the entire get kademi revolts against him. You know, so the academy should probably figure out a way to get the show down in length you, and I both know I mean, I'm we're, you know, I'm I'm the biggest baseball fan in the world. But I'll concede that, you know, watching the Mariners beat the Rangers six to three in August in a nine and engage the takes three hours forty nine minutes is sort of a problem. You know, right. So, but I don't really know how they do it. It is a very hard show to produce. We'll get back to Ben Mankiewicz in just one second. Hi guys follows here as you. Switch out your wardrobe. Don't neglect your underwear and now is the perfect time to upgrade or restart. Your drawers with the all new fall colors and prints from Tommy John, listen, they obsess over every little detail. They now have men's and women's underwear. No wedgie guarantee. Stay put waistbands range of fabrics. Feather light move with you doesn't move against you. And that means no bunching. No riding up there. 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I have it that what Hollywood likes is at times. Now disconnected from what middle America likes? What do you make of that criticism? I think to ten is always been true. I don't think I I I respect very Diller enormously gave me my big break in this business. I just think that that's not really true. I mean, first of all you that that said where he his point is buttressed by the fact that the highest rated Oscar ceremony ever was when Titanic was nominated that said nineteen ninety eight I think I might be off ninety seven I think but twenty years ago, you know. We were talking about net flicks and prime and Hulu and now apple getting into it was a different world. You know, you know, the TV ratings are dropping across this lowest rated Super Bowl ever. The Emmys were the lowest rated Emmys ever the Grammys had the lowest rating eighteen to forty nine ever. We're live television is not what it was ten years ago twenty years ago, certainly fifty years ago that said one of the most the most if not the most popular movie of the year Black Panther is nominated. So I I don't know that that's Brahimi and rhapsody is nominated those were enormously popular movies. So you know, and they may not win. But that's not gonna keep people from watching people think they have a chance to win even though they don't the neither of them as a chance to win. Ben Mankiewicz is joining US F you said eighth grade was you were shocked it wasn't nominated. Is there a movie that was that if you had to replace it? You would oh you mean of the movie? Yeah. I mean, first of all you can give ten so you wouldn't have to replace anyone bohemian rhapsody. I I like clean too. I think we had to wait a long time till we actually heard Queen movie took two hours to get the Queen plan. Some songs there Live Aid bohemian rhapsody like walk hard. Speaking of that McKay. The that that seemed to meet every touch tone of what a musical bio pic is supposed to be like it just felt so safe. And so careful that I mean, it's fine. But as one of the best pictures of the year if you have to take one out and stick eighth grade, and I take out. Seen both. And I totally agree. And again, I I as I finish the movie I watched it with friends, and I said was that a great movie or the last twenty minutes? Great because we all love Queen. Largely what I mean? So many silly things that were changed about about, Freddie, mercury's life. I get it Hollywood does that they just didn't didn't need to be changed. I felt sort of Alibaba Hemu rhapsody the same way I did about Pearl Harbor where after Pearl Harbor. You're like I thought it I didn't realize Pearl Harbor was a love story. I thought it was it was it not dramatic enough that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor launches into World War Two that didn't that wasn't enough for you. Ben Mankiewicz joining us lead. Actress Glen cove, close in the wife, you can make certainly compelling argument. She's as good and actress, I mean, Meryl Streep Glenn Close as we've had in a long time. I got I mean, you watch if you first of all there's a movie that not a lot of people seem, but I love the wife. I love her performance in it, you know, damages the show she did for five years on direct TV. She was just you know, that was like five it was like a course in in how to be a lead actor so she's win. You gotta lay a thousand dollars to win a hundred. So I think she's a she's a really good bet to walk away with the us, by the way, lady Gaga star is born also lead actress, I thought she surpassed expectations. I don't have enough the I'm out of my depth talking about whether or not it was a great performance. I thought it was a very surprising league. Good performance. The didn't rival Glenn Close in the wife is that fair. I mean, I think that. I think it does rival Glenn Close sh. I think I think Clint closes, you know, she's been doing this much longer. So I guess she's probably a little better at it right now. But the I am never surprised when a when a singer who puts on a a real performance on stage. Right. Somebody like lady Gaga it. She's a performer. So of course, she can act and she's a serious person who takes it seriously. And if lady Gaga wants to devote her time and energy over the next forty years to to be in a serious actress, you know, I have no idea whether she's going to win an Oscar. But I guarantee you you're gonna get much nominations. And she's she is outstanding. And so I I was I only thing I disagree with you on his I actually wasn't terribly surprised. I thought she'd be great, and I think she was share share transition. She was in moonstruck. I think it was. Yeah. Share was great. But if you if you watch some of the early movies, you know, Verna hers awed cast, you know, a, Mick Jagger. And he's in some really interesting movies early in his career before he sort of completely devoted himself. If. Jaggard wanted to be an actor. He'd have been a good actor Bruce Springsteen wanted to be an actor. He'd be a good actor. So none of this in general. I think if these performers who really put on a show, I think their performance and Ben acting as performance so and by the way, performances a name of a Jagger movie that every Rolling Stones fan. Should should check out. He's jack. He was in free, Jack. Yeah. Well, they're not all as good. Early on if he wanted to be an actor. He could have done it. We'll get back to Ben Mankiewicz in just one second. You know, people say necessity is the mother of invention. But that's not always true. Sometimes the mother of invention is advertising. Yeah. Or pure accident. How about ego maniacal delusion? Absolutely. Or just a desperate longing. To be cool. I'm Robert Lamm. And I'm Joe McCormick. You're the host of the science podcasts stuff to blow your mind. And now we're branching off into the exploration of invention. Invention is the story of human history told one piece of technology at a time the things we made and how they made us invention publishes every Monday, listen and subscribe to invention on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you find your podcasts. It is officially the summer. Fourth of July week is over. I think I may go to the beach today wanna look good workout eat, right triumph drive all built on science. Clinically tested safe ineffective ingredients designed to achieve your boost. You got to tell testosterone levels within your body. Give him a pop. M drive workforce. Is there all day energy booster em drive? Prime maintains lean muscle mass. If you're looking for it, Walgreens, Dwayne Reed GNC vitamin Shoppe. 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I don't think it keeps a totally fictional characters from winning as we well know, it happened to me, you know, there was no there was no, Don Corleones. But didn't it didn't keep winds from it didn't keep wins for the godfather away. So I think it helps to to certainly with the academy to play a historical figure, but you don't you don't have to. But obviously it does. It does help at a certainly helped in in recent years. But those are you know, we're looking at small sample sizes. They're supporting actress, Amy. Adams for vice? I don't have the Vegas odds. Emma stone, the favorite king is the favourite rubgy. Okay. If street could talk which by the way, I've not seen. It is not Memphis. I said the other day Beale street in Memphis and somebody said that's not what it's about. Now. Although I met when when when you know about ten minutes of the movie like win win. Memphis. Memphis. But is by the way, Bill street, which is not nominated for best picture. I would also include in best picture, Mary Jenkins is a brilliant director. And there's one scene in Bill street, which you'll you'll know it as soon as you see there's a scene where the two families involve meet, and they share some some good news. But it doesn't end good. And it is just it is as good a wrenching family dynamic seen as as you can put in a movie, and I think that's largely what got what has Regina king. Who's a brilliant brilliant? Actress in his I also hope she is enjoying her day in the sun because it has been a long time coming, but I think she's gonna win. But that one's a little competitive. She's like one two three and Amy Adams is three to one. Adams? I think she's really I believe Amy Adams is making a movie now woman in the window. I could be wrong as do. I have the right now. I don't know. I feel I only pay I worked for TCI only pay attention to what's already happened. I go to my IBM DM page or whatever that's called. They always have a list of what you're doing. What you've done what's being produced upcoming project. Yes, Ben Mankiewicz is joining us. I think it is. You know, it it. It's the Ying and the Yang the push the poll, obviously movies. You know, the marvel comics have you don't pitch something that can be you know, a trilogy a lot of studios aren't interested. I work at you know, FOX where Rupert Murdoch has sold his movie division. But I also think televisions as good as it's ever been. You know, Rauma is a Netflix movie Amazon prime what do you make about the emergence of net flicks net flicks movies being nominated there certainly have much greater budgets than television shows do at a NBC or ABC how is that playing in Hollywood where net flicks now can win Oscars. Well, first of all they have and they're putting a lot of money into Roma, and they spent much more time having romantic theater to sorta get some of these older. Look, you're not gonna talk to anybody on your show, Colin who spends more time with octogenarian members of the academy than I do. They become a lot of my really good friends. But there is definitely some pushback that he man that's not a movie, I don't watch a movie on my television. I mean, I might watch screener on on television. TV shows costing one hundred million. I mean, I think it's I think I when I look at net flicks. It's not TV it's a combo. It's a hybrid. That's right. I think it's just harder to get the older academy voters to accept that. But Roma I think it's going to win the odds favorite winning best picture. And you know, once they get one that sorta though pushed down that wall in that house will crumble, and and I think that we'll see many more movies that premiere on Netflix or prime or apple. And you know when apple comes. They're gonna come hard with real quality. I mean, I think you're right. There's a lot of talk in this town, but moaning, the there's no mid range picture, either spend a hundred dollars two hundred and fifty million or you can spend eight hundred thousand but there's nothing, where's the twelve million to twenty million dollar picture and those stories are on television. They are getting written for television. As you just said, I mean, it's beyond calling this the golden age of television. This is a whole new plane. Television. I mean, you can there are now thirty shows that I know are excellent that I can't even get to. And that's where the best writing is is on television. There's some good writing and movies, but but the best writing out here, which is what and writing drives these stories. The best writing is happening on on television on Netflix on prime, and and and, you know, better call Saul and the Americans and all these great great shows on on on basic cable. We'll get back to Ben Mankiewicz in just one second. 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Really? Yeah. And he is again, he knows more about the blazers here. Need to talk about the blazers. You get in touch with. But he I think he he's great. He was on the Americans to. Yes. Tim and the Americans, but he is he's a he's a phenomenal actor and that the whole cast is great. And that show is also I think one reason why billion so much is that it's less weighty than so many other heavy dramas that I watched which are, you know, watching true detective, and it's, you know, each episode is gut wrenching, billions is fun. And it's nice to have a show. That's fun. Ben Mankiewicz owes a pleasure thirty-five. Great minutes, you make a smarter from a a remarkable family of by the way, when you do Turner classic movies the host, and the film critic can you move in as a critic now and say, I wanna I wanna talk about this Netflix show, Amazon prime are you given that latitude do show did show. What the flick for a long time into a podcast now co breakfast all day with some other critics. They don't mind I think they liked the fact that that that the intros on TC m I know I do sort of those are free from they might you know, I can add a little snow. Narc? But I don't think they want a professional critic, especially telling you not to watch movie that they're about to air. No. I also, you know, look, we show a lot of movies. That are great. And we show some movies that aren't so great, but are still fun. So you know, we sort of keep those keep those hats separate, that's mixing metaphors. But you know, what I mean, Manny Machado three hundred million dollars. He'll last about four years there. I said yesterday, you're a baseball fan won't affect the standings hill affect the stands because they're gonna get thirty five hundred more people in nights. So the thirty million dollar year contract will be about twenty two or twenty after the commerce. They've got a bunch of good prospects will Myers Eric hosmer. What did you make of that move? Which is sounds absurd. But as a baseball fan, what do you make of that? I think is great. I love that. You know, I live here in southern California. I mean, I'm an Oakland A's fan. But I I've been here nearly twenty years. So I've I've got some affinity for the dodgers now. But I love I love competition. I love going down to San Diego's beautiful ballpark. Great baltic. Bring him back the Brown. Uniforms, finally next year twenty twenty it's about time. I mean, they may have been horrible. But you knew you were watching the Padres. You know now who Padres wherein blue come on. So I like it. I think I also think they'll be tremendous value in it. You know, it's like each ethic seven eight million dollars per win. You know, and he's like a five or six wind player. He's probably worth thirty five to forty million. And he'll be twenty six. I mean, I you know, he can opt out thirty one. But I don't know that there'll be a five hundred and fifty million dollar contract waiting for a thirty one year old the way things are going. So I'm a fan of it. I think they got a pretty good. I think they've got a pretty good deal. I mean, it's a it's a crazy amount. I remember I'm as I told you emanates fan. I think it was nineteen ninety and Ricky Henderson signed with the as for for four years at twelve million dollars. He was the first player to make three million dollars a year. And then within like an hour and a half four guys had passed him. And he wanted to reduce yes. But that was just I mean that was nineteen ninety that wasn't nineteen sixty. I mean, it's only been. Twenty nine years in guys were making three million a year. Now, we've got a guy thirty what's happened been really even in hockey that the new TV deals, you can validate this stuff totally through just basic TV deals. I mean, the Padres are a small market, but it's not Fenway or Chicago or the cubs and the Red Sox. Simply don't have you can't create seven thousand more seats. He could have easily if they signed Bryce Harper that you would sell six thousand season tickets and twenty four hours. I live in Santa Monica Steve Brice out for Padre season. You know, but continued success. Ben baseball season's coming up sore. The oscars. Thank you so much for stop by our Saturday podcast anytime Collingridge talking. You know, people say necessity is the mother of invention. But that's not always true. Sometimes the mother of invention is advertising. Yeah. Or pure accident. How about ego maniacal delusion? Absolutely. Or just a desperate longing. To be cool. I'm Robert Lamm in. I'm Joe McCormick. You're the host of the science podcasts stuff to blow your mind. And now we're branching off into the exploration of invention. 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EPISODE 60: Cold Pursuit, Serenity, and talking filthy (GUEST HOST: Zobo with a Shotgun!)

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Crossing that line administrating time hope Brian blessed in his prime. I'll just like I've could be asking charge. Hey, talk about more important than I'll host guest host this week. Name is very she is a she's a podcast there. She is a offer. She's got Ryan blogs overshot gun shows. I worked for preschool relative organize Asians. I how you doing. I'm not bad. Thank you. Glad finding Friday Jesus Christ. It's been the world's longest week. Yeah. It's been absolutely insane. I had to we done an Oscars thing at the start the week. And then later on of a couple of interviews we've ever PayPal splicing into this. But all of them are American-based. And when I said, let's have a chat in the evening. Four in the morning. Anyway, rice, I kick home with a first review. Tell me what makes the. I like certain people. With all these nicknames Speedo fighting eskimo. It's a gangster do of nickname wing. Culpa show a film, which has had a chequered upbringing incentive. Marketing I've the last few months, but actually started life as a Norwegian film and director who made member the actual name of it because I can't pronounce it. But the director had a great time. I can full. Yeah. Well, I don't fix. This is completely the same director, gentlemen, code hans-petter Moland because I'm really good trouncing, and he decided to remake this film for an American audience, and that meant he went and go a new cost and kept the story quite asylum. This is of see the film, if you wanna wear of of Liam niece and sang things that it shouldn't sign press conferences, and unfortunately has probably made the whole pill. Go downhill as a result of that. Well, she's shine because I really really liked this film concept. This film is basically Liam Nason plays. Space. Hollywood voted ten minutes. Yeah. That's this film. This film was a it's been positioned as taken miss the plow in terms of the Simpsons miss the plow. To blame Nason lives in a remote part of North America, where he basically drives his plow Strope, but some unfortunately, murder, see son, and he goes for revenge. So that's how you kind of connections. But that's not this film at all. When you actually it's been it's been advertised taken style revenge movie. It's like free films in one it's like an art house movie. It's a comedy and a little bit of revenge movie in itself. Now, it's actually it's actually a comedy, first and foremost, Masons, quite dead Panggoi like at I've seen racing guy. More into comedy chops. He's done nice films segment farm recently where he does the old cameo, and yeah, he's he's Germany actually, quite Pam radio. And this film does that amazingly conduct offbeat humor very much focused around death starts, the deputy, son. In fact, after someone dies like it goes house, the screen goes black, and it says the name of the person, and it kind of makes it like chapters in like a weird. Kill bill. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Basi's vibe to it. And I really really like already went in one is height this film because I'm tired. So I, you know, I've got stopped who got to speak on. But that aside we had a good time this film. I really enjoyed the to it offbeat tone other cost and this as well. Laura Dern, she's in it for about ten minutes. Unfortunately, she does play the stereotypical. Our son's dead. What you doing and not gonna spoil kill people. Kill people. On the utilized. We could write this film in ten minutes. Come. I'm ready to stop pending something. Oh, go ahead. Don emergency, right, stall. Off is a really good, Tom. I really enjoyed this movie. I'll think there's something really other no off-color about it, which humor that comes with movies fills arms Coimbra movie from that perspective. Shut your brain off. And you just enjoy thing to think ought about. It is what it is. It's just a lot. Thursday night. Is a man of certain set of skills PR, not one of them. But he's obviously getting older little bit as well. And I think he needs to probably avenue into other stuff. And this is definitely experimentation. I really enjoyed it experimentation so experimenting with different type of revenge Ville. Yeah. He's. Humbly a bit more and he's doing revenging. Okay. Kobe is load transitions. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I love to I've gone for five. What makes you think you can kill rather crime novel? News. The Oscars of a nice one for a couple of reasons. One everyone has already on a podcast about and I'll shit myself. I moved on site. Well, thanks, buddy. Appreciate that. That bose. Thank you Renta, host dot com. And, but let's talk about one thing from that Rummy Malik obviously half the hills of his new Oscar win has been lined up to be the new villain in an expert film twenty-five. I'm ready struggling to care about this film off the full federal Danny boy like step down sign and not gonna give me decree control the one. And then I went and got a new director. I number is director through outside awesome. The middle-aged people back over at the MGM have gone on. We must also what else is out there looking actors and people involved who chatter hand. Yes, everyone saying many, amazing alternative. I feel really sorry for right is as a massive Chris Cornell fan and when casino Royal come out and Chris Cornell was announced as being the guide to write the song for Ripon. It's like the films, but the music in my opinion, kind of lives on forever. I saw kind of have a place in history. And and when Chris cornell's all right cool there van pinball and they bring him back. He's going to be awesome wrong song for it. Okay. What's the title casino royale? Fuck. He he had to sit there. And completely forget about that and come up with you. So I really feel sorry for whoever in our lineups their song fish because they're probably sitting there. They probably never would have been pissed that person's already that band or personal who has already been decided who's doing the song. And they're probably guy. Okay. What's it going to shatter hand? Yeah, I've cornfield what they've just pulled that one out of the pocket last minute. You know, they've got into the meeting go we will. I was just gonna I'm just. Let in. Shatter hand. That's it. That's it. Fuck it. We'll artist. She's the one before it. Your Salva comes in any way. That the man. Have you seen tried to freeze new show drops today on Netflix, spicy gonna be like a DJ slash nanny? He's doing what fuck wants to projects which is also rising and anyway, Rami mallets been lined up to be the villain. What do we make this? Do we we like Rummy? We like Rummy Rummy fan. I am do you know what I mean? There's a lo- controversy around he rhapsody, and you know, everyone's kind of going crazy, and then the out video of him being a bit and also to go, but I'm quite like him. I mean, I- Sarim mister robot. And I thought he was amazing. I quite liked him in the helium rhapsody. I'm not gonna lie. And I think he's I think he's good bond villain. Good to be able. Yeah. And they saw his sinister look. Route. He's always a little bit sunken. I would like quite an interior. Yeah. Dark is gives you evil to sign if like attractive in a way, but in a like terrified about is. He is he could he be there could be ABS this film. He'll be there. Maybe that's maybe the power as well. Age. Massive deaf. Right. Good. Ended out. Oh, I'm I'm calling in different reason. Why is because I think he is great in in Royal a love that show. I think as trying mercury absolute fantastic. But having an original character, which can I think about the fiber bond films, probably golden right raise more because I think the four game the Essex fucking incredible. Let's let's just say that for now. Regards anyone video especially the cheap where you put it in the massive heads exactly the film, but. Well, I love to film was the bean, right? Sean bean was actually incredible. She'll beat man. He's just incredible. Anyway. And he was the villain. But it was like I inferring germs and get short. Like love absolute Britain. He was he was an equal. I don't think Romney Malik has the presence on screen to be Daniel Craig in terms of physicality. But that's when the films of sucks when the bad guy has basically been someone who can't give him a run for his money. Really? And I don't ever complete off. People seem to be a turn reasons. I think Charlie been matching the bond in terms of broom they've been trying to match bond in terms of brain. You know, it seems the last few villains have been quite devious and clever, computer, programmers and stuff like that. And I don't know. Maybe that's they're going to go with Malik. Taking the Mr. very both. You mean the physicality thing? But just a presence like a real presence screen it self. He got the personify, Freddie. Mercury to be a presence. That's my point. Can he without inheriting someone else's shoes? How can he feel that screen? Anyway, let's see what happens if I think he's pretty much. Now Africa is gonna get raisin wise because that kind of poached Oscar winners like just off their one there. Let's move on just Brian. We like just. We like I'm pretty much obsessed. My dad's very uncomfortable. Older than him. But i'm. I'm like, that's the mom. Well, goonies fair enough. I'll get the news. Well, he looks good as fans as well. He's he's coming out and actually sing Sicario to know say Sicario to your life. You love him. You'll love Sicario is incredible in it. Anyway. Sorry that side. He's doing comedy with pizza thing. Kinch it's gonna be cold brothers. And that's all we re not it's gonna be like site in a world where we're whiting triplets to come out the the. Oh, oh. She mentioned a lot of people thinking that this might be based on the ninety eight classic twin we've all sorts degradation DO if you look at the characters. Be a contrast and similarities actually could be related not to squash your fantasy. All right. And. Could be rights and Brian can do comedy is actually like similar Mitch badly. Missing do deadpan really well ROY from tropic thunder as while you're eating as well as. Get hard. Get hard wasn't. Everyone's very Bothell as funny tropic thunder was Harris. So as you could cost like you'll be good and pay. She's voices. Just hit. I think I can narrate anything apart from video games. Like he's that video game. He got drops from cool destiny. Anyway. He's actually speaker guy in front dropping posters today. Actually, celebrate is coming out research. And I keep forgetting it's maybe she did a feature about is who is still alive, and what is still happening. So only posts they holding new character stew around and sitting on the front the prime and the hound is sitting on is he dead nine. So I literally I'd never seen and about two months ago. I Finch watched the entire seventeen. Farage, and I'm like, I know everything everything was she comes back. Yeah. Yeah. Try to Lovejoy comes incites. Oh, that's right. It's this weird coat isssue group. Imaging gets everywhere. Guardrail got nice old hound is still and we're happy of this people who's not happy Will Smith. He's just found out that he has been dropped from the suicide squad sequel James Garner's come out and said like he's not he doesn't want. He's character dead shorts. Been what do you feel about suicide? We like it. We hate it. Are we looking forward or care? Actually, still haven't seen it. I'm I'm CPA not inter anything. Superheroes are two fair enough. Dr. All right. Do you think Will Smith is not in it because everyone is the, gene? Shit. Back on tees rat will that's where we love you. I thought it was because of scheduling conflicts. Terms. Too busy being the fucking genie. Maybe he's got that new bad, boys. Maybe coming out really soon as yeah. Yeah. If it isn't. I'm gonna cry for many many, well, yeah. Let's. Smash a couple of weeks back. It looks. It looks interesting. Anyway, let's move on KOMO geria- pronounce that terribly wrong. He's the guy who's in Silicon Valley who was in the big sick, which is kind of auto biographical kind of not comedy. He has he's he's next film. He's funny announced it's going to be a spy comedy. It's going to be cooled. No glory seems kinda fun being painful by Amazon big sick. I love that film things. Really? It's pretty hard to it and the right ship between him, and what would eventually be is. What is absolutely fantastic? I think this guy Faulk we need to put up after Ryan clearinghouse, we need to put some money behind some ten people. So yeah. What do we think about space true stories? I think this again. There's another one to building on previously. Yeah. I mean, he's good actor. So I'm looking forward to Silicon Valley is hilarious apart from the whole teach touching people being progression talk about that. But the actual show. So funny, how many times do put costs about film? That's what she comes up over time. That she out. Everyone still touching everyone. About people. That's okay. Try it as van right? So couple of tries dropped over the week one on apps east. It's about now, I'm a massive massive hell boy fan the genie is out to our movies. Absolutely classic. I am still pining that furred movie, which we're never gonna get Rome Perelman. I want when I grow up I want to be Roman. He is not going to be taking the role David harbour from stranger things is going to be taking up this role. It's a reboot. It's probably going to be telling a of treads from the original verse film, but people are McShane. He's back. He keeps. Macshane is in this as well as may commemorating the chick from and. And resin evil. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, military. Yes. Yes. The perfect person to know that today. Which we knew films. I'm not huge fan. The dogs the dogs Cohen very steady get worse. Yeah. Just anything. Adapted. Our loved the game a grew up in. We'll be there. Always like this, right? Okay. Sec film was then downhill anyway, let's try to help which are that whirlpools. I I mean, first of all. My biggest problem is our love David harbour. I it was awesome in strange thing. It's not Rome palman like me. And my friends have a big big love for him. Just. Just. On the power. No. I think the trainer looks pretty awesome. I mean, the trade to kind of maybe gave the whole film away. But I think every trailer does that nowadays the monsters look better. Yeah. Sitting on this. Well, so it makes it easier for us to associate him. The monster. Properly Florida rings set in London. Gives us share these eat him nitric Donka wannabe straight update. I'm on. On Germany on boy after I like Fotos David harbor in a row, Arkansas this. This is pretty cool. Awesome. I tried that dropped a couple of months back. I wasn't too votes on seeing this music fans. Get there's a scene where he's coming out of some pit of lava with a crown above his head. He's building a metal flaming sword. Any ROY dragon? That is the cover of a seventies fucking rock album. Why I'm sorry. You had my heart with David harbour. You had my soul with destroyer in. And I knew it was coming because we've been getting loads of emails line guy who have been here's a poster here's a finger. Sharon, social media, just like on south give me more help. Or it's definitely for me cracking trader tried. I wasn't too impressed. With was I mean, we kinda nudist film was going to suck. Anyway, to an extent from the production problems to Disney buying FOX to the actors started out being relatively unknown. So for their careers becoming some the world's because actors not once to power this stuff anymore. But anyway, X men dark Phoenix try to drop for it. I think today as well. And I think this this traders definition of let's just give the whole fucking story on away in free minutes felt like a Batman versus superman again, then just not let's just action in in these three minutes, and you're going to be left nothing, but disappointed by the end of it aside. That's my wife every night. Anyway. Sorry, much potential for this story. Here's here's the thing. How do we think is going to end any differently by X men for X men for a last stand was pretty much a great film, some its place in history for some people the Reuter of that film, come out and said we screwed up. Absolutely terrible. You know, he went on to have a good film career. He was able to come back and director next Ben, Phil. And I said right what start onto one of the oh, I want to redo dot Phoenix. And then the last one didn't really like that. And he's I've got this. I've got this. And this is what we're getting. And I'm indifferent. I feel like a lot these films are literally the same thing over night. That like say about superhero more with like, so what's going to happen? The good guys are gonna win the news. Someone might die. Oh surprised. It's literally the same shit over and over. X men, especially I couldn't even tell you. The order of can't even tell you the odor of the films. I is like. Damon wall need to know what just whack-a-mole and then it's like anyone's. Right. I'm gonna just keep the numbers. Well, X men one. He's been to. I got no idea was sorry. To celebrate Sparta. Bam when. Fun cover spider-man's giveaway away. His is quite happy to say. Anyway, try to buddy, we're actually going to give. You. King. He's good. You can be offering now. Nice try to dog Phoenix laughing we will avoid avoid. And I think it's pretty obvious that Jennifer Lawrence read doesn't want to be part. It's franchise anymore. They're gonna kill the character of a series. You're going to take it anyway and recast everyone. That's. That's a to the end renews. Disney. Burn everything. Much altered one by one. Well. Yup. I try not to ruin stuff is rotten tomatoes. It drops a couple of days ago at Ron tomatoes are going to remove the want to see school on films. What that means is anyone in the past could submit a school for film. It's not released. You're now this is become subject to politicize Asian abuse for lack of a better word. So what did do I put it back signal spike to a gentleman codes Zaki Hasan, he is professor of comes of media over in the states. He's also run to my as blogger. He's also worked some amazing publications. We had a good chat about that. So I'm gonna I'm gonna put that interview in here now, and yes views to this as well. Hey, film people coming up in the next segment. I'll have a chat with Zaki Hasan. Here's a podcast host. Here's an author for some pretty cool publications. Here's also film critic and a professor incomes and media to boot as well. We record the interview over Skype so apologies if there's any audio issues, but hopefully with cleaned up sites hands. Nice anyway enjoy. We're delighted until filming to me to be welcoming Zaki Hasan to our podcast effluence. You don't know. Here's an offer. A film critic he's worked on publications like at birth movies. They're fanned or Philly will weekly half post. Not to mention he is university professor of media and comes how are you today, sir? Thanks for. Awesome. So if we weren't already sleep-deprived in the UK from during our write-ups from the Oscars and everything else in between if that another piece of news drug tonight, which was that rotten tomatoes, those, you know. The aggregate scoring for film reviews and an up and coming film. Critics stuff has decided to remove the one to see school of upcoming films. Now, this is quite a big there's this is kind of a was used as a barometer of how people looking forward to see a film. But also when films are up and coming in and just I'm press screenings, what people's views are of that. What's your take on wide? I decided to remove score. Now what we've been seeing lately is that people are looking to weaponize types of instruments, specifically rotten tomatoes as a way of making a political statement about films that they have. Some kind of objections to and we we saw it happened in the past with with the Ghostbusters film from a couple of years ago. We saw reside in the lead up to solo coming out. And then and then now after marvel I think that the utility of the of that notion of oh, this something people are excited for that. That utility is outweighed by the potential for people to cause mischief. So. I don't necessarily see a problem with Rowlett rotten tomatoes doing I think, unfortunately, it's just a reaction to where online film culture has led us which is down some unfortunately, unhealthy Ord. Yeah. There's some examples in recent years, right? Like was prime example, people who definitely wanted to say the Lord Miller cuts and disappointed that directions. Disney took with changing directors at that point of baby s there's always whenever variance of different superhero movies were coming out. People would be kind of pulling apart. How much do you think this impacts books office defend Schutte is pay attention to this studios are getting smarter? I mean, I think what we saw. I mean, what what led up to this was obviously. Coordinated sort of. Attack. Affirmed for captain marvel. And I mean, let's be real is gonna have one bit of impact on the box for that film. You know, I think that the marvel brand is is pretty well dug in at this point. So, you know, people I think there may have been a point in the in the recent past this this could potentially affect box office. I think that you know, I think people are involving the coverage is evolving to the point where they're recognizing that this is just a handful of people who who are sort of being miscreants, rather than being involved of some big way somehow thing, which when a guy from here. What do you think is runs Meyers go to I mentioned in that post that that guy in speed doing situations in the near future looks like some UI stuff which is coming which is quite co. But do you think we will see this ability to preempt a school comeback? And if it does how do we stop the bolts from doing it? I think virtually I mean, I think just in general the ability of people to interact with each other online. Should be contingent on being able to verify who you are. I mean, I think the problem is you have you the anonymity offered by the internet is what's allowed for a really cheapening and coarsening of our discourse. You know? I think I think if you if you have some to saying, you should be able to stand by it, you know, I mean as as a critic, that's one thing I'll say is like I'll I'll put my name, by whatever I put out there, and I'm accountable for it. You wanna disagree with me? You can and Lord bills. I get plenty of Email excoriating me and confederating either either either of those fine. But that's that's the problem. I think if you're going to be a part of the ecosystem at Ron tomatoes, whether as a critic or a consumer as a critic, you know, your name is out there as a consumer oftentimes, it's not, and I think the bet does a service to that site can and should be completely. Graveyard. Yeah. I think that the next step is logically putting your nine to obtain held accountable fear actions. I think might be PayPal were held a bit more Campbell for their actions. Whether that's just giving a school number or writing something when verifying with I actually went to see that film with they actually were invited to those events too to be able to get insights Bill to give that informed decision. It's only going to be a good thing people. But there is some there is some good there this stuff, right? Always think of a hilarious example of on each. There's I feature on a channel. And there's a segment in future all know where saying from one of the episodes about the neutral planet, and it's just the hilarious in where everyone's very impartial. And it has the exact number of up votes as it does to down votes. And there's a little community of people that are constantly making sure that the balances perfectly neutral, and that's that's fun. That's that's that's the fandom working in a. A good way. Hopefully runs my you can capitalize more on that Zaki. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much feel inside. And we'll get this on the part. And I I shot you're busy, man. But we really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this. Like say. Everybody knows everything. Truth was now. I got a feeling today is today. Today. Serenity is Scott original production movie. They've been trying I've lost companies to start doing visual content and failing judging by the cast and the production of this film that this wasn't sky money with someone else's money and sky coming last minute to it's bring it Scott stars. Like, Matthew, mcconaughey and heavy is where this Jason clock Zoe? You've seen this film able to say this before the the big screenings available on sky as of today. It was right -able in Simone limited release. What's this about the film is a weird one? But basically photos, Matthew, mcconaughey. He is fisherman. Strange row for him. And he's basically going about his everyday life. And then on Hathaway turns up on asks him to take her husband are on a boat and feed into the sharks. However, it's not quite as simple as that. And it seems that that might be a bit more of a bucks route between them and also that is young boy involved. Okay. I don't know Friday evening. Spot about the spot. Okay. Matthew mcconaughey, isn't it? I. I mean, two powerhouses of the acting world at the moment. I would say. I would I would find I would imagine it's hard pressed to find a film with those two and it weighs good movie of. No. I mean, I'm not a huge Anne Hathaway fan. There's something about the irritates me. But she is good trumpet seller in Sean, it might. It looks like there's a lot of sexual fritters of I like, you you like me sexy. We're gonna have sex and then afterwards on about. Spice tycoon on about sex. Taken on a boat percents. Movie we've shocks is it. They're trying to build up the suspense, and there's some twists. So isn't that kind of film? Yes, quite. Suspense full. It's more kind of like a new off elm. But it's so sci-fi, and it's also kind of threat less. Yes. Yes. Which I was not expecting my boyfriend is big Sifi nod, and we watched this together. And I was like I have no idea how this is gonna be. So I fi- and then yes. Smooth smooth droppings of sci-fi men. It goes very very Sifi. I'm gonna go get impression from. I love this. I thought it was pure up like three like you said kind of suspense food sexy kind of thing, which is, but yeah, nervous sci-fi movie. Nice. What's clock in this? Film was well because he buys it looks like the damage on the one that everyone thinks is the ugly guy in the background. Everyone's looking at them say well, see lock in this film. He is the worst. Like, he's good base. His character is the worst. I mean. Being fit to the shops. Yes, I'm for good reason because he is an awesome piece of what he's abusive you see on Hathaway in some very horrible situations. But he's amazing in his row. Very very good. Very good. Imagine that's an easy road play either. When you know that so person teams see that's why it is. But. File human being it must be really hard. Come from deepens today. Not a cool kind of mindset for them. Yeah. That's in but scarf and transferred to help us to Ryan sculling, hurricane hosts upload bus is ongoing thing. And but this looks like he's big production. Big sis-. Does this does has sky on ROY too cold itself? A production house with this film passively. I say, yes, I really really really liked this film like a law. However, it's awful ratings for. Everyone. On the internet in general. Maybe it's just because I walk a lot of me. He's like this. But I mean, you can see the twist coming. I mean quite early on. It doesn't really blow your mind did coups. I mean, no, what was the smallest passan and like. Woo. And my boyfriend was like, yeah. I mentioned that two minutes in. I didn't see. No, I think so I mean, this produce very, well is, you know, everything you kind of want is great characters. Go quite costs. It's in my opinion, very strong storyline on. I mean, even made me cry at the end. So to me that means is kind of like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really liked it. Okay. So we do a school on so film. It's me one being terrible. Michael transform the five being. What you to me? For me, the forestall not. Amazing. They have serenity four five check out now valuable in Scott and at various cinema. Women. Have we have a guy and this guy? I said I rename out is I hand if these are the smallest board of stuff that we've known onto film with me as she come back and sit Tocqueville to to. Well. Was a widow. Get you on the. City to me. Basically, we take finest films and tight famous quotes and schools. Do audio things to them, and you go against the film. Now, you're gonna fly while I'm gonna do is. I'm gonna play the clip and the first person who knows what it is. Just shouts. It Rangel buzzer. You could you do that. Oh, that's best buses. Jamie. Sorry. We've got buzzers. Okay. Ready? Very quick. If you don't see. I wins. I. Odia is being China slot. But you go to film is from angles Vilson just fill justify free to one. Districts. Ghana Batman now, Chris you bail. Here's the thing. So that was that was John soil, and he was a slowdown. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Go. What up the next film is from films as inputs Schiavo old yo from the school, and we've taken a famous, quote from another film and splice that know, maybe two fields. If you get one of them, you get the point. Free to one. Down. Exorcist. How? Is it horror themed there is a horror famous this time? He good. You just guess you feel. The film called to folk. Our jaws though. And he decided to splice in Ola from frozen. Scream. Yeah. He he's trying to fuck with you. I know. You get next one is just the oldie from film famous horror movie, and we will hopefully say it's not the folk ready. News. Minor engine a certain rules. That went the bye survive. Army for instance, number one. Yes. Yes. During. I really hate scared. He's more of comedy is. Yeah, I wants this I- horror comedy. Because Dan, you Davis ice scary movie spoof that that's me. Me go. Ooh. A strong. Okay. Number full guy. Gnarly? Of my life. You'll be fan. Ed. No, I will pass onto sorry. A Stephen hawking emulates taking horror for. Oh shit. The russia. I it's the shining. Yeah. Actually finishes with. Sorry. Final foreign one sorry to get this drew. Biz exercise yet. This the first time you've won. Got see one at life. Composure that wasn't it. It was. Yes. Yes. It was. So if you've got day for film splash together getting contact on Twitter at filming today, Jamie. You can talk silly probably a little bit filthy. Jamie. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Phil. So we put the bat signal out, and we asked for some ideas here for this next feature. Sorry with this. As mentioned zairy is a a blogger of ARIN blokes. I'd rather show gun. Horror little bit not too much. Jessica chested. I in us doing press Ron's on for something, and she was talking about it chapter two. And she said that chapter two is going to contain the most amount of fight blood ever used in a film will more than horseshoes pot. That's the body count the osbournes. I think she's seeing enough horror films to be accurate claim. Slowing down the corridor. She seemed brain dead acid good point Loma sane. Very true. Basically, just the the my sue. Us by date horror films that I've got so that's my level Brian desk probably about their Jackson's festival. Wasn't it? Yes as awesome. So. Yes, as you could tell we go, we a real expert with remain, Jamie. We used to think WalMart university. Guys at university zombie films. Yeah, we we know horror. Yeah. Original. Stand. Toe to town. This does actional at a rate might. We will in day when we would have bunk of lessons and land of the dead yet. But. Terrible. It's terrible fun. But it also bonded all of just for out that about blow does on the bridge and pick and anytime out. No, wait, they're looking for a home. Just like us. The fuck. Never be like. Yeah. One is low the fuck out of them. They can now use comes now. Sign that dates. How's that? Just hold it in high regard, just because it's it's Paul j. But what we know about her. Yeah. That's my point. Right. We we need quite a bit. But then revenge always both Jesus This is credible scratching the surface. Okay. And most of our audience, I'm assuming night, I probably doing joy good horror flick. The rest of us know so stuff that is available to them and be. Where'd you start? How'd you go from that? So I post some questions as I before hand the kind of side, how did you get into the film's? Yeah. And like if someone's starting out of looking these films, what would you advise the guy I mean fast if I would advise not to what anything I watch. Horror. Honestly, deformed my mind sound lock stuff. You sound like a Facebook motorized. I'm right. My line. What the hell is going on? I'm being I guess when I go into it was at university actually doing my dissertation on desensitize ation into horror films. And I kind of looking at you know, what happens when you watch all of them, and I love them and. Now, I understand then I stumbled upon kind of holocaust seen it before. And I the DVD and all yeah. You know watched. They said I've watched house like, okay, that's kinda nautical film watching too. But I was I was quite fascinated by in in many, horrible ways and very upset at the fact I'd true, Don trainee. Watch this. And he what she with his girlfriend, and then he was single not that long. That might be. Stitched up once really bad all used to upload bus still. And I think there's a Viking ship between nodes and working in cinemas. And I. I you get back in the diet UCLA unlimited rentals sorry for pay who who on on. Such like, a millennial Slamet. Grew technically count out. Back in the eastbound who rent DVD's VHS employs used to get on these rentals. And I was nine months. Oh god. He want DVD's DVD's, I'll clear to arm. Sorry. Going on the truth is out. One night. We were hanging out one of my friends has rented film. So I went to the when I was built by someone would you recommend when spin grave, and I went okay choice. The Ray Mike, the seventies movie live fair enough and haven't seen that film is bicyc- about women who gets raped and she goes off the revenge. Spoiler from anyway base my seventies in seventies style. Now, the people like you pick a film for your audience. Worst audience possible ten minutes and pay for like, oh, so you recommend this. That's probably done. So you said you started studying started getting into so thing and so the site you best Hora. Some people can just write off strike why she will fight for movie top five Kyoto. Live tough top-five extreme five horrid in general. Difference. What makes them different extreme is main. It's not things that I'm going to watch again. I would probably go. Yeah. You know? That's a good Xtreme movie. I will never ever watched again in my life whereas army vase, I'm going to walk again. Okay. That makes sense. I can give her films. I like him what Trigon and then I can give the the extreme movies to what? Okay. No horror films, the dead. Pretty. Pretty. Is kind of the whole thing. Okay. It's not like that just a one. Mike seal nets go I have no time for the remake. It's a separate thing. Then obviously, avian classes. I would agree if you'll not if this year, in fact, we're going to be doing a special about that light rain in the we go some pretty cool stuff Londe up for that. But I leans is the only sequel to actually to me makes the original ORs, I agree with that. Yeah. Aliens is very good. Yeah. Then what else do we have? I would then probably say. Such a tough question is going to have to be not announce straight purely because me and my dad binge watched every movie. I was basically obsessed with that. Then I'm really obsessed with the film coop. Baskin? That's kind of an extreme one. But I would say it's not that extreme but obsessed with descends stars established. And then something more reason the one into my top five is the devils Condie. If you've heard of it, but not seeing them also combines kind of heavy metal with Hora and the to my love saws like this phone. So I think I watched it. I watched it four times in the space of two days. Oh, my code. I love this film. So mount tr-, and yeah, a lot of people dying. But I've caught something for so. This guy extreme. Yeah. Okay. This is going to be in. No order these just extreme films that are going to ruin your life, basically. So obviously, we have Serbian film this. Yes, if you want to know extreme, and you you. That maybe we have kind of a holocaust, which obviously is a classic won't you? Now, we. Then is I spent on your grave. I highly recommend it. Go to the NFL. Let's just fading the wrong film. For this on EJ round. Cloudy, I or something. Last house on the left which. And then I guess something more recent. I think is definitely worth watching is a film trauma, which I would say the first five minutes. I'll was then the entirety of a sub EM film. So if you're looking for something that's gonna kind of I described it as destroyed my soul. You know, if that's the kind of thing you into. Yeah. Wow. That's to be like, I I'm pleasantly surprised because I love films that we've heard of like, there's no it's not like there's this pile of movies over there. You should never go near. It's just like take. What is I enjoy face value for that? I really surprised of of hurt most of them. Aside. I stuff like human centipede. I'm not interested in I've seen it. I've seen. The first one though. To teach teamwork. As soon as one person literally fucks up the rest of them. Good analogy for life, isn't it? Yeah. It really is the front one. Yeah. Every day. Keeps talking to listen to this podcast. If you've enjoyed listening to this as much as we've enjoyed mic. Please click on the like subscribe follow that you get from so films me full much Zoe. He's been amazing. How can people find you can find the with the show dot com? And then I'm pretty much every social media with the show gone because. Yeah, I don't have a show. That's where I am anyway dogfish through hand. How can people find you off of that show? Mr. Next week. We're back. If you usual, we've got a few more interviews lined up and some giveaway. So check out the Twitter accounts staife filming to next time. Talk. Fill me to me.

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'Bohemian Rhapsody' - Paul Massey

Behind The Screen

25:32 min | 1 year ago

'Bohemian Rhapsody' - Paul Massey

"This episode is presented by Warner Brothers stars born. Starring Bradley Cooper, lady Gaga and Sam Elliott in their kademi award nominated performances. Kenneth Taran of the Los Angeles Times calls it passionate, emotional and fearless for consideration in all categories, including best picture and best adapted screenplay. Last weekend bohemian rhapsody, which includes a remarkable recreation of queen's iconic nineteen eighty five Live Aid performance won two BAFTA wards best actor for Romney Malik portrayal of Queen frontman, Freddie. Mercury and best sound recognizing the sound editors and mixers that helped put viewers on the stage with the band. The film is also nominated for five Oscars, including best picture best actor for Malik best editing for Johnson sound editing for John Warhurst and Nina heart stone and sound mixing for Paul Massey. Tim Cavaillon and John Caselli with a little more than a week to go before the ninety first Academy Awards today. We'll be talking with re recording mixer and music mixer Paul Massey. But making the movie working with queen's, Brian May and Roger Taylor and the teams big night at the Baptist. I'm Carolyn Giardina. Welcome to behind the screen. Today. I'm gonna mixing room on the FOX lot with Paul Massie for whom bohemian rhapsody Marx's eighth Academy Award nomination. He was previously nominated for films, including master and commander the far side of the world pirates of the Caribbean. Dead man's chest. Walk the line and the Martian, Paul. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. So you just returned from London where the sound team won the BAFTA. Yes loss weekend. Very exciting. Tell us a little bit about that experience. I see that you also met Prince William and Kate did the whole of it was very exciting in just a whirlwind of a weekend. We flew in on cutting on Friday lift on Monday. And it was at the Royal Albert Hall, which was just a beautiful venue always into the Baptist. Great fun sort of typical English low key way, even though it's party event. Just a great honor for us all to win BAFTA for sound for bohemian rhapsody. And yeah, as you mentioned Prince William. And and Kate were there in the audience. And at the end, we were all lost as winners to go up onto the stage and have a class photo taken. And then it was announced that William McKay would like to come and talk to us, and I thought okay, this will just be a just a quick handshake, and you know, very pleased to meet you kind of thing, but they actually spread us all out in a big semicircle. And Kate started at one end and William started at the other end, and we had full on conversations with them as a group, which was quite remarkable. And they were extremely down to earth talking about all kinds of things not just the films. There was actually a point where Tim Cavaillon ost Prince William what the rugby score was. Because I guess William is is very close to the rugby league in Wales and England, and so he he looked relieved. He looked like oh my gosh. Find that I can talk about something else. And he laughed and he was very cordial. Very casual and ASA. Tim's questions. It was great fun. What did they ask you about the movie? Kate was very intrigued in terms of just the the overall music. She said she really enjoyed the soundtrack and there's always enjoyed queens songs. So was it fun to work on she? She also asked what we were now working on. Of course, this five of us. So we all had very different answers and. Can't really remember. So I was actually so sort of starstruck. If you will it was like a while that was a cool moment. But I don't really remember what she said. Now at the Baptist sound is one category. But for the upcoming kademi awards, it's too we have sound editing and sound mixing for the unmitigated. Would you explain the difference? Sound editing would apply to in this case of bohemian rhapsody? John Warhurst Anina heart stone as supervising sound editors. Plus the crew it describes the accumulation of all of the tracks. That were would be required to come to the final mix and create the soundtrack for both dialogue eighty are. And all of the sound effects, Foley, backgrounds, etc. In our case, your Warhurst looked after the music aditorial as well. And so the sound editing award is applicable to how they assemble those tracks. How creative they got in assembling those strikes going out on recording. New sounds for the movie custom for the movie. What decisions they made in terms of the sound designs of each scene. A hell they presented that to us as mixes the sound mixing portion of it is then receiving the tracks from sound aditorial, then then Tim again, and I as re recording mixes work the entire filmmaking team to put together the final soundtrack and make decisions about what we should use. What we shouldn't use from the sound editors that's really sort of in its most basic form the difference between the two categories while the music was clearly an enormous challenge throughout the film. But why don't we start with the finale actually, so tell us about how the Live Aid performance came together. Live eight was obviously. Biggest challenge throughout the film from a music standpoint. I had access to all of the original tracks from the Live Aid performance in nineteen ninety-five in multi. It was incredible. I mean, also for the rest of the film, I had access to all the original live recordings and studio recordings in multi-track form Queen has three engineers Shelley Smith, Chris Frederickson and Josh MacRae who work exclusively with Queen and manage all the material from now and in the past and archive everything so it's all been taken away from so been transferred from original multi tracks into digital form on protocols now, and they worked with us very closely during the making of this film, so had access to every single individual instrument throughout the entire scene of Live Aid. So that in itself was a huge challenge just to mix it, then get the that I- conic sound of Queen akin to the next, but also with the access to all the different instruments is able to create the perspectives that we needed to be up on stage with the band and to emphasize. O'briens guitar when we were right next to him to emphasize, Freddie, when we're right up against his mouth and emphasize the symbols when Rudge's camera position is right next to Roger's symbols. And he's he's hammering away. Those things were crucial that we want mixing from an overall makes but from individual elements. Some really intricate work was involved and also using some of Romney's Malik even Brett's to make it appear that he is singing songs, John Kasali promotion, so makes recorded everything when the shooting film which included Romney's singing, his heart out. I mean, he he saying full level during his performances of Live Aid and all of the performances, and so what that enabled us to do. Because obviously we used Fred his vocal as much as we possibly could all the way through the entire film, and certainly through Live Aid. We were able to take inhales and constants and certain phrases and words from Rama's, performance and integrate those with Freddie's original performance, so that we could sink it all up and create the allusion that rum is acting that we were saying and him singing, his heart out was was coming with Fred his vocal performance as very intricate and. Nina, hot stove as supervising dialogue added. A did some amazing work to pull from all different sources to great with the the live, Freddie, vocals that I had access to from the from the original recordings, and then working closely with John Altman Al picture, we were able to slide shot slightly in terms of sink, and do a combination of all these things to make it appear that Rahm is wonderful performance was was really, Freddie throughout the film. In addition to the singing, you also had to create the different venues that they performed now in the case of Live Aid. It was warmly stadium in London. And you need the sound of the stadium. You needed the crowds? Tell us a little bit about how you brought all of those elements together because when you're watching it on the big screen, you you just felt like you were there. Right. And thank you that was those huge challenge. Really this broken down into two pas again for the music for all of the performances I wanted to try and create a real world environment. So that meant not just using the reverb tools. And the delay tools that we all have readily available to us. But also we were able to access the Oto arena in London last July Queen was performing they're doing your comb with Adam Lambert. Yes. So we were able to Jomo hurston. The Queen engineers were able to set up a couple of hours of time where we could play back through the touring PA that concept PA at full level all the songs that we were going to need for the large venues, including Live Aid. And then they miked all around the arena with twenty two different. Mike's from the rafters all the way down to the to the stage and captured the sound of the arena captured the river the natural river that arena, the stadium was creating when the PA was playing it full blast. And of course, there was no audience in this. So it was a very clean recording with nothing else interfering with it. So the first part of you, the first part of the answer is that why was then able to take those recordings and create the? Effectives of Wimbley stadium. When we're fallback back is relying heavily on the sound of the tour arena, and the reverberates that created and then when we're up close to the to the band on stage. Obviously there was less of that used more of the direct signal from the individual instruments, violent the multi-track. So in that way, we manage to get a very real world perspective, hopefully, and and bring the cinema audience into that stadium for the performance. So that that dealt with the music side of things and then with the crowd. There was a couple of days where there was six hundred extras on location at the shoot and John Kasallje in John waters were able to set up some time to capture them singing along what they did is they created a playback session of each individual line from song, and then some space so the crowd can sing that back without anything coming through the PA for his as they go day. Oh. And then silence from the PA. And then so the crowd will listen, the extras would listen to that sing it back and that would be recorded without music behind it. And then go onto the next line and the next line and the next line for all of those songs, then they went back and did it again, so six hundred people became twelve hundred than they did it again. So we had eighteen hundred people singing without music in the background without any other noise. Significant noise singing along with elite songs, so again, that's a massive additonal job. But once we brought those units back into the mix we had cleaned control on all the crowds singing and could utilize that along with the stadium recording of the of the music to create a realistic audience. Part of about two in the at the Oto arena at the concert. I mentioned Brian May when they were doing the concept Brian stop, the the show from inside who who wants to be in the upcoming film. Nicole fifteen thousand fans went crazy and said, of course, we do. And so he got them to do the the famous, stump stump clap for we will rock you. And he basically conducted them from stage again with no music plays. So we have very clean recordings of fourteen thousand people doing stumps and then individual claps. So we took those recordings. We're able to utilize them along with the singing crowd, the stadium sound from the band and the actual band tracks to create the entire environment in Live Aid. Brian May and Roger Taylor were very involved in the film to what extent did you work with them fun tastic what a thrill that must. It was a massive thrill at pinch myself every day going to work. I asked for some music pre dump time if you will just what time to go through these multi tracks that we were going to be dealing within the final mix and just try get some balances and some rough perspectives on what I would need to do. Join the final makes once combined everything with with crowd excetera. I'd also six days to work on that. And on the second day, Brian Raja showed up, and I was I won't lie. I was incredibly nervous. But they were just amazing. And I assume they've they've very quickly put me at ease. They they seem to like what I was doing. And we had some great conversations from that point forward going through all of the songs, they would educate me on the sound that they wanted, and I was into trying to I guess educate them as to how the sound could be utilized in in Dobie moss in two thousand eighteen two thousand nineteen because that was a territory they were little unfamiliar with coming from the record world. So it was a wonderful collaboration and we really got on. Well, and they were there pretty much. They were there for couple of weeks with us then they had to go on tool. So I would send the mixes every night, and then they would send any comments back to him. We've might make those changes they were very involved all the way through the whole process for me. It was wonderful. Did they say when they saw the final scene? I think they were thrilled and end and. What I know they were thrilled. But they would somewhat shocked in the way that brought by memories for them. I think because it was so realistic. They an audit department and everyone in production had gone to such great lengths to recreate the actual scene visually, the Pepsi cups on the piano and the whites monitor speaker wedges onstage and everything was pretty well done. Of course, rob is amazing performance. And our recall at one point I hit stop and Brian was sitting next to me, and Brian my and he was just staring at Guam on the screen Gwilym who plays him in the film. I say, okay, Brian. And he said, I just cannot believe what I'm seeing that is me, you know, thirty years ago. Whatever he didn't know what to say. He was absolutely in shock, and it was a moment that was really very tended to be honest. He mentioned how it took him back to seeing Freddie perform. Onstage you know, being in his position. Most of the time behind Freddie, how Rami was taking him back to those days. And I think likewise for Raja to it was quite emotional for them. Now, the Live Aid seen I know was condensed a bit in the final film for time. But I know you do have a full version of their twenty minutes set from Live Aid. Are we going to see that anywhere? Yeah. I the theatrical release obviously, we have four songs in live eight and those were edited down just for time. Really? So that the film moved along. And then we went back because in the actual shoot Rami and the whole cost did perform all six songs as a regionally performed at Live Aid in eighty five. So we went back in and we we've done on extended version of that entire sequence. So now his very true to the original Live Aid performance. And it's quite remarkable. The the addition of the extra two songs creates an incredibly exciting off for the whole light performance. You can really see why Queen at the time chose to do those songs and in in that order. It's a very very exciting performance. So we mixed that as an extra, and I believe it's included in the DVD. That's just been released. And I'm hoping that it gets released as a an extended theatric. Version two now the film's been successful. I think this probably a very good chance that might happen. Now when you found out that the premiere of the movie was going to be held at the Wembley arena that presented some additional challenges and required you to make another mix. Would you explain the purpose of that? Sure. You're the location for the premier was Wimbley arena, which is right next to the Wimbley stadium, original location and the arena itself is twelve thousand seat indoor arena. It was originally billed as Olympic swimming pool way back as just a huge reverb chamber. I was very very concerned that all the detailed in the mix was going to get lost for this for the premiere because we will playing it back over huge costs PA with a massive screen for eight thousand people. So I went to FOX and the producers asked if I could go back into the original mix and reduce the stadium recordings and the river on the big perspective. That we had for a deliberately put into the mix. I just felt like if we played a Riva playback of the film into a huge echo chamber that was the premier event everything just turned to Marsh, and we'd lose all detail so such a different venue. Then. Over different Rudy consented. John Altman the picture that was also very concerned about it. So very graciously the producers and FOX did allow me to go in and create a ride out version if you will and just create a very up front in your face mixed from our original mix that we could play back at the venue for eight thousand people and play it loud and proud on on a huge concept PA that was at the venue, and it worked very very well because the arena created his own stadium experience in real time. Very we were allowed to do. That was very good of everyone else. Do that. Now frying singer was let go during production. And it sounds like you on the Johnson the whole team really worked very closely together. But with that transition with the director what were the adage challenges that it presented to you. And to John ought men and Tom seek old cinematographer in the whole team, I think we had to step up and make our own decisions. You know in any mix final makes environment. We're making a lot of decisions as mixes edit is along with the producers and other filmmakers, even before we present to a director who who was present. And then of course, we take the lead from the director in this case because the director was not present we still did that, but we talked very closely about how to take each scene what to do with it John acted very closely with Dennis Sullivan, who's our executive producer Graham king. And of course, we had the interaction with Brian May and Roger Taylor. So collectively we just all stepped up to to make those decisions amongst ourselves. And that became what you see in here. Do you have a favorite scene in the film? I do my favorite scene while this few. But I I'm always really happy. When we go to rhapsody live after the Kenny Everett studio capital radio seen. That's a great transition as we're happy with that. And we go to beam row. Live, and then it goes into now, I'm here live this just a very exciting moment in in an earlier part of the film. Joanie hire only talks try. Are we done? He loves you. What were some of the challenges to mixing that human rhapsody scene? That was really an aero within the context of the story. Freddie in the band of have just told Mike Myers as the executive EMI that they want to release him rhapsody is a single and they've been told that the won't do that. So Freddie, takes it to Kenny Everett who is a famous DJ at the time capital radio and gets Kenny to play it. So it's very successful for them. I wanted to show for almost the first time in the film that the sound was becoming very polished, and they they will becoming very well liked by huge audiences, and they were on extensive tours and becoming very accepted. So as we transition out of the beginning of him rhapsody, we make it very hard cut into a live performance. And I wanted that to be finessed as a concert going experience to bring a cross. Massive excitement that we hadn't actually seen previous to that in the film. So I guess one of the challenges was to get great impact from the actual song itself and the variations because it was a live regionally alive recording that we were using. But also introduce the spacious -ness of the auditorium. They was starting to torin and the interaction with the crowd, especially like the transition out of that song, but Razzi live into now I'm here because we were able to use atmos- very very effectively with repeats on the intro vocal that Freddie sings which is relatively quiet the body of the song. And then the body comes in when the downbeat hits is just massive. It was really as loud and a spacious on his wide enriches who could possibly get a great. I realized that contrast favorite clean song. I'll ask you really like innuendo. But that's not featured in the film. So seventies awry is huge favor for me, and what we will mixing. I could not get that out of my head. I would I would wake up but three in the morning four in the morning five in the morning, and every time I woke up that was still in my head. And honestly still is many many months later suffer some of your fellow sound professionals. What were some of the key plug ins and other tools that you used when you made the film as a mixer? I'm not really I I don't really mix in the box quote unquote on I like to use mall, traditional hardware surfaces. So I'm a us Harrison console extensively, and we mixed all of the dialogue music on a nifty f c in the final mix. So for me, the protas is more of a playback medium and recalled medium, I used very very minimal plug-ins myself such as our six on dialogue speakerphone, occasionally that was left more to Joe. Oh, hurston Nina, heart stone as editorial to utilize their favorite plug ins before it. Even got to me, I'm much more of a traditional quote unquote, mixer in terms of willing to have a hardware service in front of me. I just find it a lot more intuitive to my way of thinking, what are you working on? Now, I just started for versus Ferrari for Jim mangled this about the Lome race in sixty six and the battle between Ford and Ferrari as they develop the different 'cause with Shelby America. And Ferrari, of course, it's a really exciting film when I'm looking forward to final mixing it in the next few months. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations on the film. Thanks very much.

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Toy Story 4 Trailer Disappoints During Super Bowl? - Movie Talk

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00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Toy Story 4 Trailer Disappoints During Super Bowl? - Movie Talk

"The following program is brought to you by your friends at podcast one. Don't forget to download our new podcast one out. Space some regions are vast and empty other areas. We call closets. Fortunately, Kevin from the container store has answers. Right. Kevin. What gives you the power over space? I'd say alpha, customizable, closets with free, design and Elvis adjustable shelving and drawers, I can create space in any size closet. Kevin master of space and closets or just Kevin. Plus right now, save thirty percent on elephant installation and earn up to five hundred dollars in credit through February tenth at the container store where space comes from hoop. Where's that music coming from? On today's show even glass things Super Bowl was a letdown. If you're a Rams fan could you at least enjoy any of the trailers, and Netflix is getting a whole lot of Bundy. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about married with children movie talk starts right now. Ted Bundy, what have you was related to the bundy's? It looks like that cousin. They don't talk about when I was a kid people reference Bundy, and I'm like, oh, yeah. You mean the neighbour for married with children? I did is. I cross can begin leeann Al Bundy, and the whole thing just kind of went Kabui. But now Netflix he's getting a lot of. Yes, fame serial killer is no longer with us. Ted Bundy more on that waiter on in the show. We kick off today with my two favorite panels. We got paired number off here, we have John Rocca. John you're adopted team of the Los Angeles Rams, quite cut the mustard in what many people are describing adult game last night. I thoroughly enjoyed I think the dog did as well. I had a great time watching that football game. I was doing other things around the house while I was watching the game. So it was nice. We're moving into my girlfriend, and I this week. I mean, we mortar movie which organizing stuff so it wasn't that kind of game. They took our attention away from what we were doing. But we watched it. We enjoyed it for what it was. We talked about it on Collado sports time today, if you wanna watch it with Suzy Shuster she's on there talking with us about the game. So you can watch it on other things around the house Super Bowl is on Parry number of. I know you do not subscribe to that voice. Early enjoyed watching that football game. Didn't thoroughly enjoyed watching a frozen screen on my jet. Blue flight back to LA what I am very loyal jet blue customer, but on freaking game day of all days have the TV systems fail. I understand. I was angrier than I ever I was like up to my eyeballs in rage. And I couldn't take it on the the poor of flight attendant it wasn't her fault. But I was I was ready to hoc at you would get this. I was just ready to hold out on. Game you start that nothing. And the thing was is. So of all the TV's on the plane. I think maybe like two percent of them didn't freeze. So you'd find these random plane watch the game and everyone would be like. Turn that seat belt light off better after like an entire season of being fantasy and just being so excited for the Super Bowl it figures. This is the one time I was completely stopped for lodging the game. Well, thanks to Bill Belichick. The Rams were frozen for most of the game to carry number cannily sympathize if any of the higher ups at jet were watching upgrade this poor girl to mint. She deserves it after going through that herring experience. I watched it with Molly. And it was just the two of us, and that's five inch TV foes. That's a fun time to watch even a Super Bowl that didn't have a lot of scoring. But I enjoyed the game. I enjoyed a lot of the trailers are going to get that just a second. But first, let's talk about the weekend that was at the box office. It was Super Bowl weekend, which means and not a lot of people go into the movies. This was the lowest box office returns to the top twelve movies since September of two thousand and seventeen. The number one breadwinner was once again, the m night Shyamalan film glass closing out his trilogy this weekend. It took in nine point five million dollars domestically followed closely by the upside at eight point six million dollars. Ms Ballo was doing theaters and did six point eight million dollars aquaman four point eight. And rounding out the top five Spiderman into the spider verse at four point five fund note that movie's made one hundred and seventy five million domestically alkyl is up to three hundred twenty three million dollars. So Roka usually this out by asking what was the biggest story at the box office again today, I simply asked is there a story at the box office. The only thing that I can take out of the box office to for me. And that would be the fact that glasses still kicking it up there at the top no matter what the middling reviews or some people not liking it. It's still out there. Nuff people giving word of mouth that it is still at the number one spot for three weeks in a row. You can't take that away from it two hundred million dollars worldwide on a twenty million dollars production budget. So they've made their money hand over fiscal. You may not have liked the movie, but they're certainly impetus for Shamlan do another one. I'd be happy to see if he would want to explain no he said he doesn't want to. But if it opens up that would be. Fun. And also Kevin Hart. Keep going second place. The upside eight point nine eight point six what can you say that guy draws people in lesser note? Spiders, still there kicking in the top five. I love it people were still discovering that movie. Yeah. The kid who would be king. I'm here nothing. But nice things about this movie. People were saying that was actually a cute story. It can't make any money. Get came in at seven this weekend. It's second weekend release with four point two for a total of thirteen point two million dollars Perry number off. What was the story to you at the movies? I'm just looking at the top ten specifically right now. And it's a whole bunch of very sad looking per theater average is and that's why I thought the kid who would be king wouldn't be able to hold on in week in two is because we can one it had a very minimal per theater average. And that's never a good sign. I guess the only real story here might be glass. Just because of how much it made on that teeny tiny budget. So that is the benefit of working with a smaller amount of money, and then finding a release date and something like January because the smart. Move is releasing it releasing it at the time they did in January, and then letting it ride out a couple of week weekends, and that money just adds up. I mean, we're really not even gonna have. I mean, I guess with LEGO movie to coming out that's going to make a good deal. But it pretty much had this time all to itself aside from the upside which is holding on really strong. But now, I guess the time for just glass and mostly the Oscar contenders green book ticked up a notch which probably bodes well for. It's Oscar run right now green book was number six at the domestic box office so glass, number one. I think it's going to inch toward eventually surpass limp over that magic one hundred million dollar Mark domestically. But Perry brings out the box office this coming weekend. And that really is the question is because it's going to be a fuel injected weekend. Finally in February we have the LEGO movie the second part is coming up that's going to do some numbers. And then what men one withdraw she Henson versus cold pursuit with Liam Mason. Not a great storyteller this weekend you to what's going to be number two at the box. Office this week. And the LEGO movie, I think we know is going to take number one. Unless Ben one pulls a big upset is going to be one one. Or is it gonna be cold persona think there's any competition? I think what men want has this. I mean trash EP -hension has proved her her ability and her draw at the box office time and time again, I think with this idea in particular, she's going to draw a pretty big crowd. I mean, actually now that I'm starting to do the math with these three. We could have a fairly big weekend on our hands, especially considering the most recent ones. But I think it's going to be LEGO at number one without a doubt what men want and then called pursuit, John Roker. You put some predictions on paper here. No. I'd like here's what I was. I agree with Perry. I have to agree with Perry. I think what men want certainly will be there. I think you know, we're seeing the black audience comes out to support these movies. The upside is getting that benefit this is going to get that benefit as well. Yes. Of course, other people will go, but it's a black audience that will drive the numbers they've been showing to be very powerful box office force when they get behind the move me. So movies. So I think this one checks all the buttons. Yes. It's a remake of a Mel Gibson movie. But it's also tries to be in this and you throw in Tracy Morgan is very funny. I'm down with that. I think we've been burnt too many times by Liam Nielsen movies recently. And so I think people don't want to run out to see him do another one. Even though this one is getting incredible reviews. Lot of positive reviews across the board for Cobra. I'm going to night to see it as a at a press screen. I'm looking forward to it. But you know, we've been burnt by the commuter these other films that didn't quite hit it at like taken did. But this film, it doesn't know how to advertise it self Greek. It's I think it's a dark comedy is going to have a lot of action in it. But I have no idea what to tell just from the thirty seconds that you see when you see an ad on TV. So I don't know that it's sold to the public because we watch it. And it's like, wait. This is just the Liam Neeson action movie. Is there is there humorous this thing a farce is this sucker Abrahams? Zuckerman what is this movie? It's not on my radar whatsoever. The only reason it is on my radar is because in my mind, I'm going on. Now is the time of year for another. Knees. Much Ed, the only weather other one that I do have my right now is the prodigy one with Taylor schilling in the little kid from it. I've heard some pretty good things about that one. And right now, I'm trying to find a night in my schedule this week to see that one. But I don't know with with the horror movie right now, especially right before happy birthday to you comes out. I feel like that one. Could maybe make a little bit of money or moves have come out and shock people with their box offices over the last year. So it wouldn't be surprising to see that up. There. I think it feels more like with coal pursued it feels more like one of those old school Jacques Claude van Damme films where you have like somebody dies, and it really cares about because this is his son overdosing heroin. And then it goes on the revenge, and they have these like little jokes aside that go throughout the movie, and that's what it feels like to me when I watched the trailer. So I'm expecting to have awesome revenge film with occasional jokes. Don't it. Well, you can tell Mr. van dam that in person when he's here in studio tomorrow that's going to be a very exciting day for a lot of us particularly the kid that war denim for a solid year after he saw hard target after this weekend next week and the Valentine's Day weekend. You're going to get happy birthday to you. You said you're also gonna get alita battle angel. I'm hearing reviews that are talking about what a big cinematic experience. This thing is so maybe that does some surprising numbers at the box office and also, isn't it romantic? So as you look forward to February you guys an early breadwinner for what you think could take the month of February because I'll remind you how to train your dragon three is also coming in theaters the last weekend in February. So. It's probably going to be that versus the LEGO movie for February supremacy, right? A tip the scale in the LEGO movies direction. But I think those are going to be the two bigger ones this month unless I'm forgetting something right now. But I think happy birthday to you could be one well worth watching out for because it's another blunt house universal movie. I'm sure they didn't spend all that much on it the first one did very well. And I'm hearing good things about this new one I for one and I'm very excited about it. I do think alita is dead in the water as far as financial go. I have a bad feeling that no matter how good it is. It's going to have a very tough time making back. What I assume is a pretty large budget. But it is a nice pleasant surprise because I seen some of that early footage of both sandiego Comecon in the New York comic con, and I didn't really like it. So if I go into that movie and wind up being pleasantly surprised by the content. I would be frigging over the moon did the review for it last week. When I went to see it at a press screening, and all I can tell you is that it is production-wise visually in. Incredible. Some of the story I think they could have worked on a little harder on the story. But this could be an listen, I don't want to get people mad, but this could be another aquaman situation where the critics kind of don't one hundred percent are fully on board with it. But the fans may like it there may be a strong contingent of teenagers who enjoy this young adults who enjoy this and come out and support the movie because there's a lot to take from this movie that is enjoyable and there's great performances from Zahle for Moselle Saar. And from crystal day. I hope if anything comes from alita battling that it finally puts her on the map in a way that kind of matches her ability her in so many things where she just crushes the performance. But for whatever reason, the movie doesn't pop quite as much as it would need to in order to actually I don't know. I guess make her a superstar per se throwing James Cameron and rubber Rodriguez. Well, you know, how much the draw they might still have. So we'll see it might surprise people in her Shelly. Oscar nominee Oscar winner and Oscar nominee this year as well. So I saw LEGO movie the second part I had a choice between you that? Or lead a battle angel last Thursday. I went LEGO there's more free food at LEGO be honest with you, and I did enjoy leg. I thought it was just it was what I expected. It was what you're probably gonna expect going in there. Too fun rollicking adventure a lot of quick jokes. And I dug it thoroughly this most is going to be up tomorrow. So Roca mentioned that the upside came in at number two, and it was interesting because Kevin Hart didn't that movie. But he was also the Super Bowl last night. And and if I could just have a buddy comedy, I want Kevin Hart, Robert Kraft, the owner the patriots, and Jon Bon Jovi just getting a car and drive somewhere because I would put a camera on that. And had a great time. Interesting seeing Kevin Hart and Jon Bon Jovi to pretty great entertainers sitting on the sidelines watching maroon five and Travis got in big boy to a halftime show. I was finding the halftime show. I didn't really care about. It. Didn't move me their way, I didn't hate it. I didn't love it. But I think John Bon Jovi Kevin Hart took much having to a couple of songs haven't Arkansas some jokes. That's the Super Bowl halftime show that I want to say. Halftime show. Oh, that's the one thing. You don't need to I watched that Super Bowl. And then you want the TV to freeze during halftime show. I watched sitting in today, and it's like if you get fell network to get NFL network. They're going to be replaying it for whoever wants to watch that game. But I watched it again this morning, and I found a pretty entertaining. Okay. That's fine. A lot of people found the trailer that lead into the Super Bowl entertaining because that was avengers game. It was a bit of surprise because you know, Disney ABC they're going to buy a bunch of time during the Super Bowl. Even though the Super Bowl was aired on CBS ABC. We didn't know is going to be an adventure and game trailer. We didn't get a captain marvel one as well. But I want to stick to this ventures endgame because that felt like the big announcement that hey, the Super Bowl is about to start. But also, wow new footage from endgame is marble going to stick to Kevin he said, and we're going to show about fifteen twenty minutes, the beginning of the movie, that's what they're gonna use to advertise. It certainly felt like that from watching this trailer. I liked all the new clips. I saw I don't want one hair harmed on that adorable. Raccoons head the sweet rabbit better survive. This anything else Perry. Fair game to me. What do you think of the trailer? This is a great TV spot and ever since I finally got the opportunity to watch all of these online after they aired on television. I was going through them and the ones that I wasn't liking. I'm busy googling and watching and searching on Twitter if everybody's reaction. I see a lot of folks out there saying hold on. It's just a TV spot. It's just a thirty second TV spot. But then you compare some of the ones that didn't play as well to something like endgame. That isn't expertly crafted TV spot that instantly gets your attention manages to re catch you up from the events of Infinity war, and then all and also t up the next big adventure in a way, where it already gives you some unforgettable imagery. I mean, the shot that I'm picturing right now is at the very end of them walking across. It's like that. Maybe it's not as big as that fake. Sean of them all running through the forest of Kanda. But that's the shot that I'm going to take with me from this because I found it so visually striking. But I also loved the choice to put in all of the boats are on the statue of liberty and all the cars still parked by CitiBank because city field because it's almost like putting into a superhero movie a little touch of a disaster movie. And there's a reason we get a lot of disaster movies because I for one certainly drawn to them. So to see that as part of the endgame TV spot, yet got me hooked, it made me think of something never had to consider before roken that is that like fan of snapped two singers who lost a bunch of our heroes. Everybody lost loved ones and all that stuff. But now we live in this world and people seem to some people seem to just want to move on. It forget this happened in Banos. He's a bad guy. We know he's still alive ease often some other planet living in a cabin enjoying foliage. And maybe just never harms us again. We can just move on about our lives and the adventures like damn it. No doubt. No. We're going to go after this guy. Also saw a lot of jokes on Twitter at the poor New York Mets expense saying that. That's how city field feels most of the time. Most of the job away from politics. I stepped on your arms is a Yankees fan that field usually looks like no, listen, I enjoyed this trailers what I agree with Perry. This I hate when people say oh twenty thirty seconds about that's a cop out and a half. That's why those spots are made to get you interested in a movie, it's not to make you go who I want to see more than I hope they get better next time or do better next time. No, it's the get you excited for the film if they fail at it. They deserve to be criticized for it and some spots did and some spots. Didn't this one killed it? It was fantastic. It was so good. Like Perry said, the ships around this the statue of liberty. Ironically, are those ships there or have they come to the statue of liberty is that some some sort of place like at Ellis Island all over again. You're poor huddled masses coming to the statue of liberty. I don't know I loved the shot of Steve Rogers handshaking as he put the shield on does that mean, he has PTSD does that mean he's afraid to walk back into battle. We see him at that self help group any looks different looks weird the faces shaved we don't know. What's going on with C Ronin? We'll see a little shot of. Scarlet and black widow with their hair longer. So some time has passed and their self help groups the avengers over Steve Raja, Lisa's going out group to deal with 'em. Remember, that's where falcon was right? He he was doing that for vet for veterans. So maybe that's a call back to that and Perry's right that that shot of them walking and slow motion. That's exciting. But I also liked the fact that people are speculating who else is out on that grass looking up that's been digitally moved removed, possibly what vendors that. And I want to know where rocket is opening that door to whatever that cabin is out by the water. I just wanna know who's cabin that is or where he's at. So so much about this was perfectly done and exciting. And we're the first trailer was all about like, oh, I'm lost in space. I don't know what's going to happen. Now, you have Tony stark working with Mattielo on a ship. It's more hopeful that they're going to fight. And I think it's great what they're doing with us, and it's going to be an expansive film. Yeah. As you can probably predict the chat room is alive with comments about the adventures and game teaser. Obzor Ed herald, great friend of the show comments. He says it's a great ad for fans of the series. But for non it wasn't an attention grabber. So it might have peaked their interest, but on a hook line sinker effect. And then Andrew Valdez says those opening shots of empty stadiums reminded him of the dark Knight rises. He says not a bad way, which I think the dark. Knight rises at a pretty strong ad campaign going into the movies different story. But I feel good vendors endgame certainly has a lot of fan interest. And then you talk about getting the attention of the masses and people who maybe didn't even know that. Oh, yeah. That other avengers movie is coming out. And that's what I want to move onto is the trailers as a whole is the trail which trailer if you look at we had Hobson Shaw, we had us fast and furious presents Hobson Shaw is the name of the movie, captain marvel Toy Story four so the Super Bowl, it's a very competitive event. It's a celebrated day of competition, which movie trailer teaser you saw yesterday won the Super Bowl. Was it vendors like I'm gonna vote for or was it something? Else? I think I have to give my vote to avengers. I mean, it's it's yet another major event film. It's tough to follow that series all of these years, and then be able to see something like that. And not have that be the highlight. But similarly to how that endgame TV spot. I thought was expertly crafted I would apply the same comment to the us one. And I think we were talking about the exact same thing when that first trailer came out that is just a great attention grabber where it feels like you're just starting to be able to sink your teeth into that story while also being extremely unsettled and off bounds and not knowing what the heck is going on there. And again talk about the imagery. I'm looking at it on the screen. I can't is off right now. But the imagery in that trailer is so so eerie, and it it leaves me satisfied from the perspective of a short TV spot. But it is dying to make me like go see more right now. So I think that one was a huge success as well. With Jordan peels twilight zone. Add yesterday that was one of the core things I saw during the Super Bowl, again, para cannot apologize. We have everybody jet blue. We're sorry offered me so many free snacks and wine. And I was like no free drinks the legs himself, some free drinks. But not there in the Super Bowl. It's the free drink un-freezes the television. Now, thanks go. While you were putting together you knew bunk beds, which trailer. Do you think was the best that air during or right before? Right after the game. Yeah. I would say I was great look more more Jordan Peele is just becoming this mogul in his own right piece by piece, and we're watching it happen. I think that's great for me. Because how I'm Bill Hobson Shaw that was the one or the fast fast and furious presents ops and shown tip your T glass there. No, I really enjoyed. It. Was thoroughly a lot of fun loved the two different dynamics of Jason state them of the rock coming together. Love that can't we why can't we be friends? Aegis elba. Inter it made my girlfriend come out of the kitchen to watch the trailer hearing. Address elvis. You've got someone who's never watched fast and furious movie would never be caught dead Nevada furious movie interested because you've cast interests elbow. So that's a positive. She liked the trailer watch it was enjoyable and that way, but I also think the trailer itself captured the humor and the action that you're going to get in the movie when you walk into the door, and it doesn't feel like just a spinoff. Here's our attempt to spin off if he was like an entirely new franchise with these two people connected to it coming out of that trailer, and you can tell the attention to detail and the amount of money they've put into this thing and that gets me super excited for overall. So I was in. That's the one that really grabbed my inches really won the Super Bowl for me really annoyed me when they revealed the beginning that yourselves character is basically like a superhero. I'm like that sounds like a big cop out you do that. And then before I knew it. I cannot say no to eaters Elba versus Dwayne Johnson. And Jason state them. There is some sort of magic happens when you see them all fighting with each other. And it's got me I need to see it. As as crude of a demographic polls. I can do I think people watching the Super Bowl people invested in watching the game. I think that the Hobson Shaw trailer might have spoken to them the most out of any of the chosen. I did like that thirty seconds spot. I thought I checked out the thirty seconds five. And then I just went back and watch the Chiro that dropped a few days ago. He's so stupid. It's so really so now we have like a captain America. But he's a bad guy. Like how far down this rabbit hole? Are we going to go? Am I going to see the movie am I going to get a kick out of it? Yes. I am. But I'm not it's not exactly high brow. Going wanna space, son? And that's the next night or dead. Randy trio machete in outer space, it just it's ridiculous premise, but I mean, again, I'm the one that's getting excited about talking raccoon walking into an empty cabin. So I don't have to stand on if you notice the headline of today's show. It was the disappointment that maybe some people felt watching the Tory story fourteen or what they're adorable little dolls. It's animated. It's Toy Story. We happy to see buzz light year and some new characters. I mean, I was I enjoyed that trailer. Just find it in. Wow me, but it was nice to see the buzz lie. You're hanging out at a carnival. And he's a prize that you can win and he's messing with the other prizes. They're messing with him. I dug it just fine. But we're people disappointed by this. I'm I'm seeing the word failure in our lower third today. And I don't think I would I would call it a failure per se because I do think it probably achieved what it was set out to do. Which is remind people there's another toys story movie coming and there's cute colorful characters, and this is what you're going to get from it. But as someone who adore. Doors all three Toy Story movies and has been waiting and curious and hoping that number four is just as good as all the other ones that came before it I felt like a little deflated after watching this kind of like, oh, that's it especially because the order that. I watched them in when I got home was, you know, I watch things like us an endgame. I I watch Hobson Shaw Fers that just happened to be the last one I queued up for whatever reason. And I'm like that you know that pales in comparison. I don't find it that funny, but I- door these characters I love at amusement park setting. I don't know if that's the setting for the movie overall or anything, but I just thought that those two things together there was gonna be some some little hook in it that kind of brought back those warm and fuzzy feelings, you get when you see those characters back on screen, and it just didn't really do for me. John yoga Toy Story for you grew up with this franchise. I did you love that original trilogy. Heck, it probably made you cry like the last one and helped to tier two in me toys. For the trailer disappoint. Yeah. I would say failure. Absolutely. Yes. Peres right. That it reminded you that this movie is coming, but then again it failed because it did remind you that this movie is coming in a dozen look like they're capturing the magic of the first three adult this felt angry this built a little bitter. This felt like the animation. Look different weird. And the jokes didn't work for me. And I thought overall I felt a built on happy after watching this trailer or not should not be unhappy. Watching a Toy Story fortunate. I should be excited to go back into this world and revisit these characters. Even would he was that's buzz up there. Oh, well and beau peep comes in. I know the new beau peep looks cool like the design. What does she do? Nothing just says a line just what Bobi did most of the time. So if you're going to put an new beau peep in there have reduced something have her say buzz, ever, do something if you're gonna make a big deal about it. Put it on your poster do something in the thirty second Super Bowl spot that you pay to millions of dollars to showcase your movie on. And it really didn't do a damn thing for me. The jokes were if there's one thing. Jordan Peele wrong. It was voiced one of the characters in this trailer in that whole Super Bowl thing. So to me, it just it just really bothered me. How Iggy the feeling was that I got after watching this trailer. I I was upset because didn't upset I didn't cry in three. So to have this come out be kind of like wasn't happy. This is right after the Rams lost though. And so. You know, maybe you weren't in the best mental state Stein it and again, I feel bad for Rams fans. But I think you're going to be back there soon. And I just I found myself starting to root for the patriots for whatever reason I appreciate greatness while it's actually happening. I don't think I took full advantage of that when Jordan and the bulls were winning six championships in eight years inside. I'd like to do that again and just as Washington Redskins fan. I can't believe that our team was ever invited to this game. Like, that's how far removed I feel as a as a skins fan. I it just seems like it's never ever going to happen. You know, come on the patriots fans probably felt that way all the time till Bill Belichick showed up. Well, you gotta last trying. And I appreciate everybody that came to Phoenix to punk rock wive to laugh at us for a little while I was myself headlining, and I was honored to have. Josh mccowan, Ken, nap psychos. You guys were amazing fans, we pack. The place out y'all sold it out. It was so great getting to tell jokes in front of you getting to meet somebody. I'll afterwards. It was a great time. Thank you so much Phoenix. Next up on the docket. Got a lot of little dates in between. But then the big one Chicago too. Shows one night during store or celebration, April twelve it's Friday night at might be taping it so you guys get your tickets while you still can't Mark Ellis live dot com at Reggie's rock club. It's right next to the convention center. If you're going to start celebration live in Chicago, or if you live anywhere else, and you wanna fly in to come see me tell jokes. I promise. I'll do my best to make it worth your while something it's always worth your while is the witching hour. It's perry. Number off Tate. We they Jose great horror themed in genre incorporating podcast every week Perry. What are we talking about? On. Most recent episode of allow witching hour is super cool episode coming out tomorrow because we just recorded it right before we went live here, and I gave a brief recap of all the harm movies. I saw at Sundance. But then the big thing in this episode is that we have the director and the star of happy depth day to you. Join us and Jessica Roth and Christopher Landon. They're both fantastic their whole areas and Chris land just had some interesting stories to tell about his filmography and some of the challenges he had to overcome to basically strike gold with the happy death. Franchise. So heard great things about the movie, they were an absolute pleasure highly recommend giving that a watch up probably sit on the prodigy and just and just get revved up for happy that because I really had a good side. We saw that together prodigy. No, no, no, happy that the first one. I think we had to go see that together. I saw somebody almost get hit in the crosswalk. Don't worry. I save the day. Then I went in. I was all jacked up from an set next the Perry. Watch Abby debt that. Yeah. I don't remember this at all were you already in the theater, you got seats recovering outside calling the cops on people this taking care of the streets mean streets bourbon, I mean, Cincinnati Ohio one of all on to our next story and that involves actually Sundance. So I want to go back to Perry because there's a Ted Bundy movie premiered at Sundance star Zach Ephron is called extremely wicked shockingly evil and vile. And this is the Ted Bundy story, and I some mostly positive reviews coming out of Sundance, though, I did see a fair amount of people say do we need this movie is just retreading this for the sake of the fact that we love. True crime and Ted Bundy was a good looking guys. Now, we want to Gora five that in some weird sick way. Zac, Ephron is playing Ted Bundy the reason why we're talking about today is it Netflix acquired the movie during Sundance they've paid a pretty penny for but periods, and you get a chance to check this film out. I did I did see this. And I am one of the more mixed reviews of the bunch. I think the performances are anomalous Zach Ephron is rate in this movie. So if you had any doubts with his ability whatsoever. No doubt will change that. I do think that I hate saying. I wish the movie had done this because it wasn't my choice. And maybe it wasn't the intention of the filmmaker. But given what happens over the course of the film? I think the overall film and experience would have been served much better. Had it been told more heavily through the eyes of lily Collins character. So that's where I land on that one. But I do think a good place for it to land is on Netflix because this is the type of thing that they release and right out the gate. It's super hot top priority. Maybe some. Along the lines of Burbach success for them because people want to know more about Ted Bundy right now with the documentary series that's out and now with this movie, especially with Zach ephrons name you and not actually you would probably believe the crowds that followed Zaka Ephron around Sundance. There is a major audience for this particular movie partially for that reason alone. So I think Netflix is going to find great success with us purchase. Well, the prayed a pretty penny for roken nine million dollars is what they pay. Now, that's not a record breaking some for a movie that was acquired a film festival, but it's up there. And so for Zaka for taking on the role of Ted Bundy so early new ground for him. And I I applaud him for taking on a role as challenging is this do you think that because this is going to come out on Netflix? I believe later on this year possibly positioning it for an Oscar run because it's going to it's going to have a limited the actual release the same way the Roma did Roma broke that glass ceiling if it wasn't already broken. And so now we're looking at the possibility of back to back years with Netflix having. An Oscar contending property. Will it be this one? God. I hope not I'd say, I don't look I'm very conflicted on these films like this. They glorify serial killers like this and make them dreamy or make them some kind of charming thing is I think it validates or sends out the message for other people who might be watching this who might become something like this that they could be glorified to one day. They could be portrayed in this way too. It's different when you have someone like Anthony Hopkins portraying someone that didn't exist like animal Lecter. But when you have someone like Zac Efron who is a heart throb and beautiful great apps all that jazz. Great following from high school musical in all these other pieces of work that he's done portraying a killer. Like Ted Bundy, I get to you have to capture it. But you gotta show more than just the charming and the ugly. I just think we need to walk away from stuff like this. Because it just I don't know what it shows you or teaches you or instruction. I watched that manhunt. Yuna bomber show that was on. Netflix thoroughly enjoyed it. Because it showed you the uglies item. Kaczynski? Yes, you saw. Oh why? But you saw the ugly side of Kaczynski. So you could remove that charm or that that interest people could have of him. So I think we walk aligned doing this. I know why we have to do it. I just think it's dangerous to walk line. I hate to think that hey, Zac Efron you want an Oscar for playing Ted Bundy, congratulations. It just for me just rings wrong. One. Fortunately, I think that's part of the story with Ted Bundy is more social. More. So than somebody like Charles Manson who Charles Manson was manipulative cult leader kind of guy. But it Ted Bundy. I mean, that's what was so shocking about it is that he just does not fit the physical profile of what you would consider as a serial killer. So I think if anything could go the opposite way to where it eliminates more people are like, hey, they worry of who you trust. Even if they're good looking and look like Zach Ephraim because you never know what's going on behind those eyes and Perry as somebody who's seen the movie, I'm not sure if if you feel like you can weigh in on whether the movie goes one way or another or if it's going to be open to interpretation by whoever's watch. I definitely don't think it's a situation where you know, over glorifies who he was in a way that makes you feel achey at the end. I don't think the movie ever gives you that impression. But I don't know in the way, you said it where it might at least challenge you to look at the people around you and really think about what's happening. I can't really I can't really put a finger on what if anything I took from this. Experience other than the fact that, wow, I'm really impressed by these performances, but a lot I mean, most of us know, the story of Ted Bundy, and why I say, I think the story would have been more interesting from different perspective is because if we were in her shoes the entire time, maybe the guessing game element would have come through a little more, which I find that it doesn't. But just from a performance perspective. I think this is a great calling card for both Zack Ephron, and I hope I'm pronouncing her name, right Kaya, Scott alario, the one who is just in the new pirates movie. I feel like she someone who the industry has been trying to make happen for so long and nothing is really quite taken off. And this is just another example of how extremely talented. She is. So I hope if anything that this leads to more work for someone like her a good rule of thumb if there are any better looking than me, and they have ads don't trust them. There's something going either way out checked out the Ted Bundy documentary. It's a four part series halfway through it. It's unsettling hell and to revisit and there's also stuff in there that you maybe didn't know. And I think you know, you get the broad brushstrokes. You understand what have because I mean, it's a Tallahassee situation. So having gone to Florida state you'd heard about Ted Bundy being there. So you look at this this documentaries, really interesting. How deep it explores his psychology and also or psychosis rather. And the people involved around him carries the see how watching that first. And then you're watching and vice versa. How our opinions will differ on the moving. Sure. How can I ask? How was James Hatfield? We'd singer Metallica. Plays one of the cops in it. Is there s these questions? Entertainer. So I want to know these things got one more story, then we're going to move onto your live Twitter questions. Go and start tweeting us right now at collider video use the hashtag glider movie talk are less story involves a movie that has had no shortage of love or controversy this Oscar season that would be bohemian rhapsody the lauded star Rami Malecki plays, Freddie, Mercury is nominated can probably considered a front runner to win best actor at the Oscars finally addressed his personal experience working with the troubled Bryan singer on Brian saying the director the movie is had numerous allegations going back years. Any new wave of them have service recently now singer was fired from the production some point during it. We don't know the exact percentage of how much of Bryan singer's materials left in there. It seems like Bryan singer had shot a fair amount. By the time. He was finally dismissed but Romney Malik. He addressed the metoo era and victims and how they should. And I think that Romney Malik did a very credible job expressing sympathy for anybody who is a victim. And then when he went onto his personal experiences about Bryan singer. I'll just. Briefly, quote, he said that I've sat here and talked about how everyone deserves a voice in anyone who wants to talk about what happened with Brian deserves to have their voice heard in my situation with Brian. It was not pleasant not at all. And that's about all I can say at this point. He was visibly emotional after that the audience applauded this is at the Santa Barbara international film festival. He went on to say that for anyone who is seeking solace. And all of this Bryan singer was fired. Brian Sanger was fired. I don't think that was something anyone saw coming. But I think that that had to happen. And it did. So I'm of two minds about this. The foremost is that I think that Romney Malik it. Maybe it's not confusing as to why he's talking about this now because we are on the eve of the Oscars. More importantly, when you actually submit your votes for the Oscars. And so people are going to be asking these questions over and over and over again, I think that he did the smart play both for him and for his Oscar chances, but it felt like watching this that this is actually something that he really feels. I don't think that this is some sort of put on publicity stunt to make sure you get your Oscar. Oats in just in time. After seeing this. I think Rodman Malik genuinely feels that way. And I think that hearkens back to seeing him give acceptance speeches at other award shows like the Golden Globes, and when he's interviewed about this never mentioned Bryan singer, never thanked Bryan singer. There was clearly tension on set. And that is not anything new because you could also ask any members of the cast of the reason x-men men movies about how much better of a time. They've had on dark Phoenix which has its own troubles. But not because of the director like maybe previous iterations did regards think of those movies behind the scenes, it wasn't all sunshine and roses doesn't seem like it was that way on the bohemian rhapsody set either Perry, what do you make of these most recent comics from Rami Malik, I think this was necessary on the one hand I was looking at this whole situation from the very start and thinking to myself there are hundreds if not thousands of people who worked really really hard on bohemian rhapsody, and then their leaders shameful behavior disgusting behavior, then all of a sudden is supposed to completely obliterate their hard work on. On the one hand that doesn't seem fair to me. But also when we're talking about someone like Romney Malik or anybody who is lucky enough to work in this industry and have a huge platform to be able to say their piece and make a difference in the world. I think it's about time that he opened up and said something about this. And I as he said it was very difficult for him before. And I respect the fact that he waited until he was ready, but I do think it needed to happen again, taking the publicity stunt element completely out of it. And how this affects his Oscar race. I do think this is a good thing overall as he said because him speaking out could encourage somebody else who is affected in a different way to speak out and having someone maybe you look up to like Rami Malik step up and do that really could make a big difference. John Wilga, the Rami Malik comments out of the Santa Barbara international film festival recently. Do you think it's necessary? Do you think that it was time like Perry mentioned or do you have? Different feeling. I think it's incredibly necessary impasse time. You guys have heard me go on rants about Bryan singer. He's a piece of crap. And I'm sick sick. Sick of us having to keep talking about this jerk off he's he's so defensive on his social media about how much money he made love in his film. He's a jerk, and I have a few friends who've dealt with this man will understand the stuff. He does behind the scenes season jerk, and we need to be done with them. And if we're really going to move on as a city, and as an industry talking about me too and time's up times up needs to be done with everybody. And that includes him enough with him already. I don't read Sonia. X men, whatever they want title care enough already move him out. And I think Romney was brave to say what he said and that was powerful in the seventies. And it wasn't a publicity son. This is a man who feels things deeply you can tell from his performances from his interviews. He's a sensitive well-thought, man. And he approached the situation wanted to answer in a public form because single was starting to get defensive you start puff ominous chestnut a bit of last couple of weeks because an article that came. Out in the Atlantic by wave Esquire. He was starting to say, oh, no. These are the homophobic riders these discredit their claims bullshit. A lot of people know what you've done and a lot of people are sick of having a kowtow to you and millennium films should be ashamed that they're still having him direct red Sonja and hope that film crashes. Nobody allows himself to be cast in that film and works for this man ever. Again, we need to be done with this kind of behavior. Enough is enough already. It does not happen. Just one way it should happen to everybody who commits these kinds of things. I just don't understand. I've never understood since. Stories you're paying the guy ten million dollars to direct this move. If he are there. No directors that are available for million dollars. But you could probably save millions of dollars. My hiring somebody else on red zone. I get that. At like, he doesn't have an couple tracker as a successful filmmaker and has never failed. He's filled multiple times. There are number of other directors. You can take a chance on Lee L was out there. Dick, Lee gold. Get legal go get a bunch of the directors who will work for nine ten million dollars or eight million dollars. The there's fine. There's a bunch of them. You know, people have colored women who want to prove what they can do. It's a red zone. It's a female lead show. How are you film? How are you not getting a female director, let her cut our teeth on a film like this? It's ridiculous Branson were involved in this and says why haven't row compare on the show you get good conversation. And I agree with a lot of what the panelists had just said. Well, we're going to move onto your Twitter questions. But I I do wanna remind you all the tomorrow quater why going to be a big day in studio John Claude van Damme is coming to town, man. I've waited probably twenty five years to say. It's going to be exciting to get to them a little bit on collider live, and then hopefully get a picture within that I can last that of social media, and forevermore, I will have met Shawn Claude van Damme. Man, I'm excited somebody gave me an apple box. So I don't know how tall you. But I don't wanna be too much shorter than the legend Mr John Claude van Damme. We also have an episode of rule to premier premiere league recap. If you're done with the Super Bowl, maybe move onto soccer and watch Roca and Jack Chi talk about soccer, and obviously movie talk for in the PT's. There's something else. Tomorrow by nine AM show notes. It's a sentence recap. Vance we are alive. So you can hop in the live chat and interact with us, but we're going to go through our top films of Sundance twenty nineteen. Because it's involved in a live Twitter questions. Berry berry will we be? Forgotten. No, you were just. Very unfortunate fight experience during the soup. Yeah. There you to go see movies that bad. You're not going to get to see the game are by train Anita. What we see? What we see says? Can you say if there was a film you sought Sundance that should be acquired by streaming company? So we already got the Ted Bundy Zaka front movie in the bag at net. Flicks. What was another movie you saw me? Let me look at my led by her some time and remind everybody out there that nine AM tomorrow morning and the PT that's noon for everybody New York. You can check out Perry number off and Scott freak and manse doing their Sundance film festival wrap up. So I'm going down my list because I actually many of them that were in my favorites of the festival, thankfully were all acquired. I think the only one right now in my top ten that hasn't been picked up for distribution is a movie called animals with leeann Shaukat and Holliday Grainger, they play best friends who are as close as sisters. And it's all about kind of, you know, stepping over that line from wild youth to actually being an adult and just how one's kind of nonconformist ideas affects another when she. Finds a guy she's really into and the two of them are just frigging electric together. They are so so good, and I have a feeling that that movie would strike a chord with a lot of people out there in a similar phase of life. I'm between adolescence and adulthood Roca. We're gonna get there someday. But if it works out sitting there, right? A couple more years for that happens. Next up is Nick NYC so neck representing the Big Apple Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are the goats. And I would be grudgingly agree with that. I think Tom Brady and Bill ballot. Check the two best that have ever done it. There's there's competition with ballot. Check with Brady. It's it's kinda tough to argue sex rings. So anyway, he's asking what does the movie equivalent? So you need a star like Tom Brady. And I would surmise a director like Bill Bella check. So who are the all time movie? Goats Nick offers is it Meryl Streep and Steven Spielberg Scorsese into cap rail. Okay. Wait, I can Capri. Oh, I can't get to Capri all-time gold status. Now, he's got there his resume. He's he delivers he's on pay. So he might be like Tom Brady, and like two thousand ten I'll give you Billy wilder and Jimmy Stewart, and you could even throw in Tom Hanks, if you're not gonna go with Jimmy Stewart those because they're consistent there. Always there whenever they do. Great performances, and they're always in the mix and conversation, and we will look at them as legends by the time to done Billy while there was osage to direct multiple genres of films. Bill Belichick and hand will handle multiple teams with different offenses. He always finds the right defensive scheme to shut them down Hanks's interesting because he can do comedy and drama so flawless in. Well, I think the same set for Meryl Streep, and I think Meryl Streep has more for lack of better word rings to show for it. So I think Merrill, scrapes got more hardware on the mantles. I think Meryl Streep I would consider that goat. As of right now, Perry Mexican illegals. We was young liaison. We can still do it the Jared Goff. Does you Patrick Mahomes or is the past? He's paskov. Mccaffrey's drew Brees firmly dealing more territory. I would actually say to Capri oh is Aaron Rodgers Tara. This means so don't worry you're going to be the crap out of all of us and fantasy. I am prepared. I learned my gal lesson the hard way. No how the game works. Now. I won the pie go. Visit. And yeah, I like this spiel comparison Perry had to convince me to be on it. That's. I was I was doing so well at burst. You gotta play the long game. It's not a one just like life. You got to play the game. So I just love how competitive we all. Never if anything it's only growing bring back collider beer pong. 'cause I want. Got if it wasn't. If I wasn't saddled with blue moon, I think Riley action taken down because rally I had the best team name because we're both they marched our team. Name was obviously marked for death. And who we were the ones that felt that Phil thank is up. Next says are you excited for scary stories to tell them the dark? This is the gamma El Toro. I never saw this ad during the SuperBowl apparently dropped them. And there's three different little versions of them scare I remember the books and loving them as a kid and illustrations, really creepy. I didn't get anything out of these. I just watch them right before we went to air, Phil. And I didn't get anything out of that. I it didn't show much which. Okay. But did not get a single palpitation out any of these. Yeah. That was the problem. I had it and get much out of it. But Perry said about Toy Story four how the trailer like didn't fail because it reminded you this is happening. These spots. Just reminded you this is happening. I don't think they were intended to necessarily scare you. They were just. Tended. Let you know. This is coming get ready get excited. So in that way, it served its purpose. But overall didn't think it affected me one way or another? I watch them yet. Oh, I need to catch up. Here is gonna check them out of the Harpen. You are. I think you might be like, oh, that's it. Okay. I mean it selling a product and to read the books. The books are good. Yeah. I have said it could be a little vignettes. All right sorry to do this. They were going to do one more quick when they were gonna call today. I'm glad somebody tweeted this in Sean Jordan, says what were some of your favorite commercials last night. Not including the trail, which I was listening. I'm sorry Perry. Watch a single commercials making eye contact with her the whole time Perry what were your favorite. They'd completely forgetting about. The whole commercial was when it was frozen on the TV that movies begin on five minute in five minutes on channel forty three. Man was that was great. That's a rough John Rocca. This is. This is. Your favorite commercial last that Hyundai commercial from Jason Bateman was incredible. That was funny. Very funny up and down. The elevator of the worst things you have to go through before you get the car buying just genius. I thought that was a lot of fun the robot child thing scared the living hell out of me. I don't like that. At all. I would say also the robots robots. How does that help you do your taxes? I don't want to do my taxes now after watching the robot child, I did like the Bud Light ones. I I enjoyed the game of thrones crossover with the Bud Light one. That was shot. Ain't Perry's gonna enjoy them. I think you'll like it was surprising as hell to see that. I think those are the ones that really stood out the most and the NFL one Jesus the NFL one hundred one was fantastic. I totally missed it unravel. What where the hell I was. It's two minutes. And yeah, I'm gonna watch it. I'm to YouTube and just have a moment to myself. I think the best ad last night. There's some funny ones that I enjoyed the best at by far. They've got the most emotional me Anthony when the coach of the now, Los Angeles chargers talking about first responders. Oh, yeah. The wo- we hear ally. That's a good because he's talking to Gruber first responders like any coach would and he gives his story about being saved by first responders. And he finds out those are purchased by the were there that day, and he didn't know, and it gives them a hug home God tap, and right now, this is bad as remember that Applebee's commercial when the coach retires, then they hang up the picture of the coach at the applebees. No, all right. Well, that's going to be quieter movie talk. You got one more Addy Microsoft, one about the kids who are developed the nice ones they've created certain path that kids who are a little bit. Disabled can use to play video games in their way of. Feeling normal or communicating with other kids and playing that tears. Tears fantastic. You went some tears you went some giggles, and you want the Super Bowl and not be frozen Perry. Enjoy the big game. Whenever you get a chance to watch it. It's thrilling especially at the end. I it's fine. Okay. Well, that is Perry. Number off. That is John Stephen Roca. I'm Mark else. Thank you all so much for tuning in. 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