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The Eric Metaxas Show
John Zmirak Unpacks the Concept of Forgiveness
"Does not mean what popular culture presents it as. And I've seen movies where this woman a nun is raped by violent assailants, and as a Christian, she forgives them and won't permit them to be prosecuted by the police. That's not forgiveness. And if that's what Jesus was asking from us, he would be nuts, and the Romans would have been right to crucify this nut case. I want to say that again, if that were Christianity, it would be nonsense, okay? To say that a wife whose husband beats her has to go back and keep living with him and forgive him, even though he keeps on beating her. That's not Christianity. That's being a pinata. That's not what Jesus asked for from us. And again, if he did, it would be wrong and it would prove he wasn't the messiah. What he asked for from us, what forgiveness means is to let go of the anger. To let go of the grudge. To let go of the hurt, not to be ruled by it, not to be governed by it, not to be tweeting about it 7 years later, I say, thinking if Donald Trump.
AP News Radio
It will soon be time to render unto Caesar to visit Rome's pantheon, a Hong Kong ritual whacks away troubles, and a Zoroastrian holiday cause some to hit the streets as others hit their pocket books.
"On this week's AP religion roundup. It will soon be time to pay Caesar to visit Rome's Pantheon, a Hong Kong ritual wax away troubles and a Zoroastrian holiday causes some to hit the streets as others hit their pocketbooks. Tourists in Rome checking out the Pantheon will soon pay €5 for admission. Proceeds will be split between the culture ministry and the Roman Catholic Church, tourists at the site were divided over the new fee. I wasn't really expensive to stay here so I think it's a very nice building and for us to visit for free is wonderful. We are fully understand that it's necessary maybe to pay, you know, for the securing of the value, what is possible to say inside. The Pantheon was built as a Roman temple more than 2000 years ago. It was transformed into a church 14th century ago, and mass is regularly celebrated there. For people holding a grudge in Hong Kong, one way to release their anger is to take part in a villain hitting ritual. Edison Chan says he hopes the ritual will help cut out gossip and keep bad people away from him. Ritual practitioners, mostly older women, use a shoe to bash an image of the person who was the target of their customer's anger. One practitioner says many of her customers are people who have trouble at work or feel like they're being unfairly treated. She says she helps them by symbolically whacking the bad people away for a fee of 50 Hong Kong dollars. The ritual includes blessings from Hong Kong's goddess of the sea, as well as divine beings related to Buddhism. The markets in Iraq's Kurdish region are busy, as people prepare for the spring festival of Nauru. The Persian new year, the holiday dates back to at least 1700 BCE, and incorporates ancient Zoroastrian traditions. This year, however, now ruz coincides with the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan. Shopper delga is having the two holidays at the same time creates a bit of a financial burden. In Iran, a fyre festival related to the holiday spark protests. Demonstrators chanted against the country's ruling clerics and hurled firecrackers at security forces. Hardliners have long condemned the fyre festival as an Islamic. I'm Walter ratliff.
The Charlie Kirk Show
James Lawrence and Charlie Discuss the Case of Douglas Mackey
"Doing an event in Chicago and a young man came up and he buttered me up. He knew what radio station I was on, but he was a troll. And he said, quote, Charlie, that's why when the midterm elections came, I told all my Friends and family, there's only one way to stop the woke Democrat mafia, and that is to boycott these elections because they're never going to hear us if we don't really stop participating. It's a farce. It's a farce. Why should we participate? You said it yourself. Why should we participate? Now, I challenge him said, no, no, no, but he's a troll. He was a left wing activist, telling people not to vote, telling people he was trying to suppress the vote. I mean, the government is setting a precedent here that this young man should serve a decade in jail. And that's why we can't open this Pandora's box. That's why that's why it's so important that mister Mackey prevails in this case and that the door is slammed shut to this kind of prosecution because it will have a chilling effect on speech and it's just not where we should be going as a country. So again, I'd ask your audience to go on to meme defense fund dot com. So just spell it. Defense fund dot com. And I'd also like to encourage your audience at the same time. Romans 8 28 says all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose. And regardless of what the outcome is here in this case, ultimately we know who the author of history is and whatever the designs of the powers that be are, it's in God's hands, ultimately what happens in this case. And he will be glorified by the outcome of this. Regardless of which way it gets. Amen. But our prayer is that mister Mackie would be acquitted.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Language of Evangelicalism
"John, I think you'll probably know. I'm an evangelical Roman Catholic Presbyterian. That means I go to mass on Saturday night and I go to my Presbyterian Church on Sunday, one river two banks, but I speak evangelical very well. Rick Warren and Greg Laurie are friends, Al Muller is a weekly conversationalist with me. I know, you know, John piper I read desiring God years ago. I know most of the stuff you talk about. I've got to tell you at the beginning. I have never heard of CJ Mahoney or Lou engel until I read your book. Never heard and I've been covering religion since 1992. So first question, do you think your perspective in testimony might be jaded by that particular covenant life church experience and these particular pastures? Well, I guess, can I ask you what you mean by jaded, just that my experience might not reflect a more mainstream experience? Is that what you're kind of? Yeah, I think mainstream evangelicalism is not anti intellectual at all. But then again, I've had doctor Mark Roberts as a pastor for 25 years. He got his undergrad and PhD from Harvard. Doctor Larry is my current pastor in oldtown is a phenomenal scholar and preacher and archbishop who is listening right now in the author of three books is an intellectual giant in the Catholic world and I've written three books on evangelicalism and this, I just think testimony is a 100% accurate about 1% of the church. How's that sound? Yeah, I think my dad raised a similar objection. When I talked to him about the book, he does not feel like a lot of evangelical culture is anti intellectual. And I think it's a totally fair question to raise. I do think that even if you haven't heard of CJ Mahaney or Lou angle, you know, I did some reporting recently. Let me deal with CJ first. CJ is not a figure on the same level as somebody like Al molar. But until about, you know, 7, 9, ten years ago, he was of a similar stature to Al mohler, if not as nationally known. So never quite got to that level, but was kind of on his way there was working with Mueller quite closely in a group of other ministers who were organizing a conference every year called. I think together for the gospel. Danny Louisville.
Pray the Word with David Platt
Genuine Worship
"John chapter four versus 23 and 24, but the hour is coming and is now here when the true worshippers will worship the father and spirit and truth. For the father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. There is so much here in this conversation. She just is having with this woman at the well about living water that springs up wells up into eternal life just to remind her to you today that Jesus is a living water for your soul that will never ever run dry. So to seek him over and above everything in this world. But then you get later on in the conversations you just having with this formula and he starts talking about worship of God in spirit and truth for the father is seeking such people to worship him. Just think about those two together and John chapter one we see Jesus full of grace and truth, not just grace, not just truth, but grace and truth together here worship is described by Jesus as being marked by spirit and truth because God is spirit and God is true. So we want to make sure our worship of God, whether our every day worship as we offer our bodies as living sacrifices before God, Romans chapter 12 verse one, or our gathering with God's people for worship, is marked by both of these things by truth and the truth about who God is, anchored to the truth of God's word and that we are led by the spirit in our everyday lives and when we gather together for worship. This is not just mechanical motion. This is spirit lead worship that we give to God. And so when we gather in our churches, let's make sure that they are marked. Let's make sure that our gatherings are marked by worship in spirit and truth
The Eric Metaxas Show
Of the Books Eric Has Written, Which Is His Favorite?
"What has been your favorite book that you've written in your career? Which one has brought you the most joy, well, okay, that's hard to say in some ways it would be fish out of water because I had to call my parents up almost every single day to ask them questions like when we did this who was this and what was this about and there was something really kind of just, I don't know, fun is a good word for it. It was sort of writing, I always say this, writing is hard. You write, I write, writing is hard. I find writing to be really hard work, writing a book is hard work. But there was something about writing fish out of water that there were elements of it that it really was fun because a lot of the stories are very funny. And so it's a joy to write a true story from your life that you know was funny and if you communicate it effectively, it will make the reader laugh, but I would also say that my Martin Luther book was similar. There was a certain joy in writing parts of that book because Luther was such a madman in the best sense. And there are kind of funny stories about him. And then there's funny stories about the people around him. I mean, but the intense corruption of the late medieval Roman church. You just want to fold down from horror and laughter. Could it really have been this bad? Some of it is just so anyway, there's some comical portions, so there's a lot of that in the Luther book. So in some ways, I would say that about my Luther book that I think it would be a fun read because when I wrote it, it was some of it, I was dying myself writing it.
AP News Radio
Norfolk Southern train derails in Alabama, no public threat
"Authorities say a Norfolk Southern train has derailed an Alabama. I Norman hall, a Norfolk Southern trained railed in east central Alabama, but company and local officials say there is no threat to the public. The Alabama accident came on the same day Norfolk Southern CEO testified before Congress about the impact of a hazardous materials trained to Roman in Ohio, the derailment in Calhoun county, northeast of Birmingham involved about 37 train cars, a company spokesman said none of the cars carried hazardous materials, but two of them are considered residue cars because they previously contained has the materials. They were not compromised. I Norman hall
The Eric Metaxas Show
Barry Meguiar Talks About Faith Through Hard Times
"Third generation president of Maguire's car wax. So you are a very successful businessman. And you had a show car crazy that was on TV for 18 years on Discovery Channel networks globally. So a lot of people would look at you and they would think, oh yeah, it's easy for that rich successful guy. He's had it all. He's got a tan. He lives in California and Arizona. And what does he know? Exactly. About suffering and here he is talking about Romans 8 28, all things work together for good, even the bad stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, I happen to know, and you've been very public about it, that four years ago, you and Karen lost your 49 year old daughter. Yeah. So now I can't think of anything. More difficult than that. And we don't need to dwell on it, but everybody has suffered. And I don't want anybody to think to get this fake impression that there are two people here talking about joy that we have in some way. I've got my stories, but your story with your daughter, that was four years ago. And we've had struggles throughout our lives. And when I'm convinced that when God gives you, he's doing it to build your faith and preparing you for the next one. And if you handle it well, he gives you a bigger one. And then he gives you a bigger one. Let me give you one. The surprise speak to a lot of people. And you know, I was in the hospital in the hospital dying. It didn't face me. 13 years ago. That was another one. My family, half my business owned by family members, and they sold to a joint vulture. I joint venture company. And they took over my board, and I found out the next morning, they're throwing me out of my business. Now, when was this? It was 2008, I was 65 years old. My life's work, my family business, my heritage, my reputation, my testimony. That's Barry McGuire, the Christians, words God now. I mean, everything was gone. I had there's nothing I could do. There was nothing I was toast. My life is over, okay? This is true story. God's hearing me right now. I didn't waver, my joy stayed strong. I prayed a very short prayer to God. I said, God, I asked you for nothing. And I did it with a chuck on my voice. Because I've been through some of you don't get there right away, but as I chuck, I said, God, I asked you for nothing, because of two things. One, you know I live for your purpose. I share you everywhere I go over to you know that. And I know you keep your word. And you said that when we live for your purpose, you make everything good.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Barry Meguiar Describes His New Book 'Ignite Your Life'
"My friend Barry Maguire. And so I want to say in case people miss the other part of the program, you've come out with this book ignite your life, which is about living out your faith and you and I have this we kind of have a mutual background in David wilkerson. Years, obviously, goes way back beyond it. But the point is, for you and me, Christian faith is a genuinely joyful adventure. We're not just saying that. But we meet a lot of people for whom that's not true. And I think that they're kind of thinking, you know, I don't know why, but it just feels like a dull assignment. And if it feels like a dull assignment, something ain't right. And so you have kind of sum this all up. The answer to it in this book ignite your life, defeat fear with effortless faith. So Barry, welcome back. And let's talk about what you say in the book. Well, first off, it's not so important what I say. This is a book of scripture. We heavily, what I say is meaningless. I just give trappings to it. I put it in perspective with the scriptures say. But every chapter is filled with scriptures at the end of every chapter, all the scriptures are listed. If you just read the scriptures from this book, then pay attention to what I said, it will change your life. Just in case anybody's worried that this is slightly non scripture. This is not a selfie. The scriptures are there. No. To prove to you that this is God's idea of what it is to walk with him. That's the key. I know you love Roman J 20. Let's talk about just for a moment. God is truth. He doesn't lie. And yet this scripture so underappreciated. God, I think it's the second most important scripture in the Bible. He's saying, for now, announce you're a Christian. You know this, but I'm talking to her. He's saying now that you're a Christian for now until you get to heaven, I'm going to make everything, not most things, everything in your life, work together for good. I know
Discerning Hearts - Catholic Podcasts
Meditation for the 2nd Wednesday of Lent: The Power of the Cross
"Wednesday. Of the second week of lent. The cross of Christ unites in the liberty. Ask. What continues to enslave me? Seek. Ask God to point out areas of slavery that still exist in your life. As you go through your day, catch yourself not being true to who you really are. Ask yourself, who are you serving now? Knock. Meditate on Romans chapter 7 versus 22 through 25. In my inmost self, I dearly love God's law. But I can see that my body follows a different law that battles against the law which my recent dictates. This is what makes me a prisoner of that Lawson. Which lives inside my body. What a rich man I am. Who will rescue me from this body doomed death? Thanks Peter got through Jesus Christ our lord. In short, it is I, who was my reason, served the law of God. And no less I who serve in my un spiritual self, the law of sin. Paul talks about delighting in the law of God. But finding himself at war with other parts of himself. Spend time reflecting on what delights you about God's law. As Christ to save you.
The Eric Metaxas Show
How Gheorghe Ignat Got Into Greco Roman Wrestling and MMA
"I'm excited to hear your story about growing up in Romania. So tell us, how did you get involved? You're obviously a big guy. How did you get involved in wrestling and mixed martial arts? Tell us that story. So I was born in 1983, Eric in northern side over in a year. Obviously, under the communist communist regime, I grew up on the countryside, and I was raised until the age of 7 by my grandmother. So we grew up quite poor in that communist environment. You could not literally have anything were on anything, and I remember I remember growing with my grandmother, she didn't have many animals, but she had a cow that she would milk and she had a few chickens that will give us the eggs that we needed every day. And I remember that and this is one episode that I want to go to. I was like 5 years old when these people were coming once a week to collect the eggs for the Communist Party. So the Communist Party was sending people to collect the eggs, the baby lambs, baby, cows, or whatever that the animals who had their own, we have to share with the Communist Party. And I remember this lady coming in with a gentleman asking for the eggs for that week. And my grandmother was so sad saying, you know, the chickens did not add enough to be able to share with them. We barely have for us. And what was a small kid? And I remember my grandma has a basket with a couple of eggs under the bed, and I told in my mind that she forget about those eggs, right? And I'm jumping on my feet, and I'm just bending under the bed, and I'm pulling out those eggs. And I'm like, here it is, grandma. You forget about this. So that lady understood that my grandmother just trying to put some eggs on the side for us. But they still took the eggs and just made my grandmother to pay attention to these things to repeat. So we didn't have X for a couple of days. So this is just an example of how life was in Romania at that time.
The Trish Regan Show
What Is This Mysterious Dust That Appeared Last Week in Some States?
"To another story, talking about bad stuff out there. This one is just weird. Really, really, really weird. We don't know a whole lot yet. I want to caution that. We've just got some reports coming in from Maryland, Northern Virginia and also West Virginia that I would argue a little bit troubling, a little bit baffling. The reports are about a mysterious dust that is appearing suddenly out of nowhere, coming from the sky. I don't know where this green administration is. Where's our climates are when we need them? I mean, consider what happened in Ohio. Hide and Biden taken on a new significance here as we look at some environmental disasters that may be happening under none other than his watch. Anyway, one state West Virginia says that it is testing some of this stuff that appeared on cars. You see, there are reports of a powder in the air that is almost like a kind of snow. I seen some pictures of it, it's like a film. You know, if you live in the northeast, which I do, you might have a lot of pollen during the spring. So that's kind of what it looks like. I mean, that would be my best analysis of it, except this is, this is not pollen, folks. This is something else. Nobody knows what it is. A couple of the states have gotten their environmental protection agencies, state ones to work again. I have no idea where the federal government is on any of this. I'd Biden. There's a disaster in Ohio, trained to Roman massive chemical leak and well, he's not nowhere. He's over in Ukraine. And now this, anyway, West Virginia, they're looking into it. They are waiting on test results. And Maryland is also common in Maryland thinks that maybe this is dust that came from Ohio. Oh no, no, no. That's what that's what we all think. It may be dust from Ohio. No, no, forgive me. Maryland's department, environmental department says, it's probably from Texas.
Mark Levin
Special Counsel Subpoenas Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump
"Know Ivanka And Jared Ivanka Trump Jared Kushner They've been subpoenaed to testify In front of the rogue phony special counsel in Washington D.C. Jack the Ripper Smith Now Jack the Ripper Smith is subpoenaing anything that moves including things that don't move actually Because he's not interested in doing justice he's trying to seek and destroy and I've explained about this man's past in the recent past I was overturned by the Supreme Court in an 8 to zero ruling because he was way over zealous in his prosecution of bob McDonald the former Republican governor of Virginia I explained how he lost a jury trial In the John Edwards case with his girlfriend or pregnancy how they used money raised by donors to put her up in an apartment and take care of her and this guy Jack the Ripper Smith concluded that that violated the election laws and of course Edwards one of his defenses was I relied on the election law people Giving me advice the experts the lawyers And so Jack the Ripper lost that one too So they sent him off to The Hague They figured he'd be more comfortable hanging around genocidal mass murders And prosecuting them So the attorney general of the United States meritless Garland he decided that would be the perfect guide who the point is a special counsel to go after Trump And now what the guy's done He's tried to violate a privilege that goes back to at least the Roman Empire probably before the attorney client privilege Hence due process under our Bill of rights and our constitutional system
AP News Radio
Wild top Preds 4-3 on Hartman rebound with 21 seconds left
"The wild pulled out a four three win over the predators on Ryan Hartman's goal with 21 seconds left. I'm trying to get in front more. But the puck's got just been hitting the goalie and going to the corner and nothing's been sitting there for me. Like they should, but end up working. Hartman knocked in a rebound just 26 seconds after Nino nita writer tied the game for Nashville. Carell caprice off score twice and brand a new ham had the first goal for Minnesota, which won a regulation for the first time in 13 games. Tommy Novak and Roman yossi each scored for Nashville and assisted on nita writers goal. I'm Dave ferry.
AP News Radio
Novak scores twice as Predators defeat Panthers 7-3
"The national predators beat the Florida Panthers 7 to three in their inter conference matchup. Predators captain Roman Josie putted a goal and added two assists and his defense partner Ryan McDonough registered three helpers and a plus four rating. The predators are among the worst teams in the league on the power play, but Ryan Johansson says, when you get two on the man advantage like they did, it can help in many facets of the game. Right now for a power play to make impacts. It's huge and going out there with that swagger and bringing some juice to our club and so I hope to keep that going. Both the preds and the Panthers are on the outside looking in and need every point they can get as they desperately try to claw their way back into their respective playoff pictures. I'm Jeremy over
AP News Radio
Clinic to open near Ohio derailment as health worries linger
"Authorities are attempting to reassure residents of an Ohio community that was a scene of a huge train Roman two weeks ago. I Norman hall. Ohio governor Mike dewine says the plume of chemicals that spilled into the Ohio River from a fiery train derailment has broken up and is no longer a concern. Dewine says air tests inside and outside of homes in the village of east Palestine found no traces of chemicals, but dewine says he understands why residents who have lingering headaches and irritated eyes remain skeptical. Residents deserve an answer. They have suffered a great deal. This has been a traumatic time for them. Clinical open within days, at least 5 lawsuits have been filed against railroad operator Norfolk Southern audio courtesy wsyx WTT. On Norman hall
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Eyes And Ears Everywhere: The Russian Spies Among Us
"Also in The Washington Post this morning in the wake of the Ukraine war. The U.S. and allies are hunting down Russian spies. You know, you wonder what the intelligence analyst in Richmond, who was hunting down traditional Roman Catholics at attending Latin mass, might have been doing if they were hunting down Russian spies. Over the past year, as western governments have ramped up weapons deliveries to Ukraine and economic sanctions against Moscow, the post reports. U.S. and European security services have been waging a parallel visible campaign to cripple Russian spy network. The German case detailed above, which also involved the arrest of the senior official in the BND, Germany's foreign intelligence service, followed roll ups of suspected Russian operatives in Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Austria, Poland and Slovenia. 400 suspected Russian intelligence agents, many of them with diplomatic cover expelled. So what do you know? The Russians are still spying. The Chinese buy a lot more than the Russians do, but all the bad guys spy and their rains as well. New
Your Daily Prayer
A Prayer to Lead Others to Christ
"As far as our faith goes, we can be encouraged when we are rejected and hated, because it serves as evidence that we are following in Christ's footsteps. If you belong to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world. But I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you, John, 15, 19. Like second Corinthians four, 8 and 9 reminds us, we are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed. Perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not abandoned, struck down, but not destroyed. As well, Romans 8 38 assures us for I am convinced that neither death nor life neither angels nor demons neither the present nor the future, nor any powers neither height nor death nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our lord. Let's pray. Dear father, forgive me for being hesitant, unwilling, or afraid to share the truth of your love and hope with those around me. Help me to be bald as a lion in sharing the good news with those I come in contact with. Including my family, Friends, coworkers, and my community, strengthening to do all things through you who gives me strength. Thank you, dear lord, that your grace is sufficient for me. And that your power is made perfect in my weakness. Like king David proclaimed, you are my light and my Salvation, whom shall I fear or be afraid of? Empower me to follow in Jesus footsteps to proclaim the good news of the kingdom of God. Strengthen me to follow as he instructed to. Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Lord move through me to draw men and women to you. Let your light shine through me in such a way, it leads them to you, father. In Jesus name, amen.
Evangelism on SermonAudio
"romans" Discussed on Evangelism on SermonAudio
"Been labeled as missions. It is not. The universal need of every soul is the hearing of the good news of Christ, and we can not sit in the church and just say a mint to this. Say men but take it with you and go give it. So what does this mean for every Christian? This involves the church teaching, the church praying, the church giving the church sending the church going, the church preaching and the church not stopping until Christ returns. It is a constant wrap around. We keep doing this. Romans ten births, 18 says, but I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have for their voices going out to all the earth and the words to the image of the world, politics is from psalm 19 verse four. He says their voice goes out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world in them. He has set a tent for the sun. So Israel has heard, they have the scriptures, they are, but they are also responsible for their unbelief. All without excuse, God's general revelation is on display for all to see. We looked at this in Romans chapter one, all have external evidence of God as well as internal for God's law is written on every heart, but general revelation does not save neither does ethnicity all need special revelation. All need to hear the good news of Christ, the good news of the church has been entrusted with. You have been entrusted with. So God has saved you. He has given you the gospel. He has given you his word. You've been entrusted with it and trust does not mean we hold on to it and we cherish it and we don't talk about it. All need the gospel Romans ten verse 19, but I ask, did Israel not understand? First, Moses says, I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation with a foolish nation, I will make you angry. Paul quotes do not be 32 21.
Knowing Faith
"romans" Discussed on Knowing Faith
"I do think one of the things that's made me saddest about the way that Christians have been thinking about these things recently is that in the way that people are so quick to trumpet a political opinion in a social media space or something like that. I think we're showing that we actually think that the church's influence will most be felt in those statements, then it will be in as we talked about previously, being a community that is shaped as a family in a way that is countercultural. I think we have actually believed that our words about politics are the most important way we can shape the world around us instead of recognizing that it might actually be the way that we're living at peace with one another within the household of God and the way that we're living at peace with others as far as it's possible with us, which is not to say that there is no place for speaking up on what's going on in the public forum. I just feel like what we have done is overestimated our ability to shift the conversation by having that kind of a conversation. Yeah, yeah. Am I being edgy right now? I don't think. I don't think so. Good. But if our audience does, then I agree with you guys. No, I mean, I think we can all feel it. I think anybody who has taken a shot at putting some here's what I really think, you know, I've held my tongue as long as I can. And then you immediately realize, oh, shoot, that actually didn't accomplish what I hoped what it ends up doing is stirring up additional strife. And so I think it is a very top of mind question for believers to ask, what is the most long-term constructive way to contribute to these conversations? And am I accomplishing what I think I am by airing airing an opinion on something that maybe the world didn't need to hear? I have learned that lesson personally. It was a very valuable lesson. Well, and you know what? This is a very personal question that we need to think about because I think what I'm seeing in my age demographic. So I have adult children. The number of parents, my age, who now have a chasm, a relational chasm between where they are and where their children are because of perhaps an over emphasis on this topic, like conversations around the last election or conversations around political positions that have compromised what I would say is the more important thing the maintenance of a relationship with the people who are closest to. And if that's true in nuclear families, it's also true within the family of God and I know we have all felt this and our ministry settings like we stood up at the beginning of Bible study back in the fall and I said, if you had told me that now would feel like a more fragile time to hold small group discussions than when we were in an election cycle, you know, a few years ago, I wouldn't have believed you, but that's exactly where we find ourselves. And so I do think we need to tread carefully in the way that we have these conversations and that we should try to live at peace with each other and choose the right moments to have the right conversations. Yeah, thank you. I think that's exactly right. And again, we talked about this in our episode on Romans Romans 12 and we talked about loving one another and familial love and what a counter cultural opportunity that the church has, one of the jokes that I'm making at my church right now is I'm calling it operation. Don't lose your mind in 2022 or 2024. Which is just like a and of course I'm joking a little bit, but it's also like guys. Whoever gets elected in 2022 in midterms or in 2024, and we're not just talking about federalized politics here. You might be talking about localized things or things that are going on at a school board or whatever it might be. Don't lose your mind. Jesus is king. We're operating a little bit in a moment of political fervor tension and disunity in our country, but we also have to take a step back and think about the thousands of years that have existed in world history. Specifically, let's just think about the last 2000 years since Jesus resurrection and all of the different political realities that have existed across the world or that exist today in American political life is not at the height of God's eschatological plan for the world. And so we can not we can break the fever sweat a little bit and just realize, okay, Jesus is king. This matters. And let's have serious debates in conversations as a nation or as a church or as families, but don't lose your mind because whoever is or isn't elected doesn't change the reality of the lordship of Jesus Christ. You're right. You're right. So maybe just to kind of put a bow on this part, how do we honor our governing authorities without treating them as God? So if somebody's like, okay, because right now I do feel like there's two temptations. I mean, there's more than two. But let's just identify two big temptations. One is to be like, we got this whole thing's rotten. We got to burn all this stuff down. I hear that. I hear that from Christians. I hear that from non Christians. Then there's a temptation of, hey, guys, the rottenness isn't really that bad. Let's just kind of look past it, man. Things are pretty great. And we should be really proud. And proud all the time, and I don't want to brook any disagreement with that at all, you know? If you can't just be thrilled to be where you're at, then you should just get out. Both of those are inappropriate. Both biblically and ethically, I would imagine. And practically, they're showing that they don't actually work, neither of them work. So what really, how as Christians do we show honor to whom honor is owed without treating them with a oh my gosh. Please, let's leave that. That was so cute. Sweet. Let's move past it. I was like out of nowhere. I have not sneezed on knowing faith. And this season I have sneezed twice during recording. But how do we honor not to draw parallels to Kyle sneezing? But did you guys see the video of the panda sneezing? No. No. There's a really cute video of a panda sneezing and it reminded me of you, Kyle. Nope. Nope. Nope. I reject it in the name of the lord. Okay. Okay, how do we how do we honor our governing authorities? Oh gosh. I'll begin. We pray for them, right? I mean, it doesn't stay. Hey, first.
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"Do in the next paragraph, is distinguish them. Like he distinguishes Jew and gentile here gentile, I have revealed myself to those who were not asking for me. Who is that? That's the gentiles. That's people who were just not a part of God's people. They're not recipients of God's covenantal promises. They're not looking for me. They're not asking to me, but God has been merciful and gracious to reveal Christianity is fundamentally a revealed religion. None of us are born with this. We don't get to participate in it. It's not something that's handed down to us. God makes himself known. And one of the most gracious acts that God does is to make himself known both Jew and gentile, but here he's saying gentile, but then in the next verse, verse 21, he says, so all day long have held up my hands to a disobedient and defiant people is that Jews are gentiles. It's Jews, right? Well, it's both, in some sense. Like they've been disobedient, but the Jews have been disobedient and defiant to the law and the promises that they have received. And so in some sense here, like he's speaking specifically, this goes back to your question, Jen. Is he pounding on the Tuesday? But he's also saying, but the gentiles over here weren't recipients of my promises. They were not aware of what I was doing and who I am. And yet, even despite the fact they weren't looking for me or asking for me, I've made myself known to them. It's like the great equalizer. We've said this before, is sin. And that's not just like this obedience. That's also a lack of awareness of what God is doing. That lack of awareness could be just ignorance for the gentiles. It also could be disobedience and defiance for the Jews, and God is saying to people who've been disobedient and defiant, even though they know my promises and they know my law, or people who are just completely unaware. I'm revealing myself to both of them so that they might be in new covenant or relationship with me, not through gentile and pagan ways of following gods or through the old system in the mosaic law, but through Jesus, who has shed his blood for you so that you might not be disobedient any longer and that you might not be ignorant any longer, but you might know me through the person of Jesus who is my son who's made me known in covenant a relationship has fulfilled the law on your behalf so that because I sent him to do that and now you can have eternal life in him. And this message of proclamation seems to be a message that's crucial or this mission of proclamation seems to be a mission that's crucial for this saving work, right? It seems as if Paul is saying, the only way to experience Salvation is to hear the good news of the gospel and to receive it. Am I misreading this? And think about how, I mean, really, one of the chief sins, so to speak, well, so to speak, one of the chief sins of Israel was that they received the knowledge of God and they kept it. They didn't disseminate it. They didn't. While they were dispersed, they did not disperse the message that the lord had given to them. And so you can see how this call to evangelism is important for the gentile certainly, but also for the Jew who is accustomed to taking the treasures of God and shutting them up from others. Keeping them for themselves. And I think it's interesting that this point even has to be made, right? Like it feels like a really obvious thing to say. Someone has to say it so that someone can hear it and then someone can obey it. But it's also significant that it's not stated the way that we would say it. We would say someone has to say it. So that others can hear it and receive it or respond to it. And I love that verse 16 says, they have not all obeyed the gospel. I mean, I think if you think about how when Jesus begins his preaching ministry in Matthew, his gospel message is repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Right. So it's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. It's an interesting phrasing, isn't it? Like when you share the gospel with someone, is that what you say? You need to obey the gospel. That's a good question. I think that Paul certainly has JT and I have both used the same tagline for our sermon series. The gospel is the good news that God saves and God rays. And the reason that that is, I think, important is that sometimes we come to the Romans road of the letter to the church in Rome, and we really focus exclusively on the good news that God saves. That's a 100% true. It is a crucial part of the good news of the gospel that God saves. Nobody's denying that, I just want to be very clear God is our savior. He saves us and he does so by grace through faith in Jesus and Romans is testifying to that. But that's not the whole of the gospel. The good news is also that God reigns. And so when you think about reigning language as a part of the gospel, then it seems very appropriate to use obedience language as a faithful response to the gospel, which is that when we think if we think about faith, exclusively as mental assent, then belief will be the only word we think of when we think about Faye. But if we think about faith as also a allegiance and loyalty or faithfulness to yahweh, then obedience is very congruent language with a faithful response to the gospel, because it's not just, yes, I check yes to the right questions on the theological quiz. But it's that if this is truly the lord of all, then I need to render allegiance to him. And I think that the usage of lord language throughout Romans has to be for us red within the historical context of a church that knew there was a lord in Rome and he demanded fealty. Absolute allegiance in loyalty. Unwavering. So to say, this is the lord Jesus Christ, of whom Paul refers to him as the lord, all the way throughout Romans. It's being used with a lot of intention. As not just a proper theological descriptor, but I think what you're getting at, which is that if Christ is lord, obedience is part of what must be rendered to him, right? Absolutely. Well, and part of what's going on here is Paul a couple times he mentions it once, but he does it more than once, is he's referring to the story of what's going on with God's people in exile in Babylon and the prophet Isaiah giving them prophecy about what God is continuing to do. So he mentions in verse in Romans chapter ten verse 15 how beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news than for 16, but not all who obey the gospel for Isaiah says, lord, who has believed our message. So he's, he is relying on the plausibility structure of what God's people of Israel believed about what God is doing in the world. And here they are in exile. This is hundreds of years ago, way before Paul is writing Randy Romans. What is God doing when God's people are in exile? Is God faithful to his promise in what would be the good news? To a people who are living in exile separated from God so I'm actually going to put there. It's going to take me a second. I didn't have it ready pardon me, but Isaiah chapter 52, I think can inform a faithful not can. It does inform a faithful reading of what God is doing here in Romans chapter ten. So I won't read all of it, but just a few things. So diverse before chapter 7 6 as this, therefore, my people will know my name. Therefore, they will know on that day that I am he who says here I am. I mean, there's so many like to use Bible project terminology like hyperlinks here I am. I am the lord. This is yahweh, who says this for 7. This is what Paul quotes in chapter ten. How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of the Herald who proclaims peace, who brings news of good things, who proclaims Salvation, who says to Zion, your God rains. And he goes on. These are the voices of the Watchmen. They lift up their voices. They're shouting for joy together. For every eye will see when the lord returns to Zion be joyful rejoice in the ruins of Jerusalem. Like for Paul, like he has all of this imaginative framework of God's people living in exile, Jerusalem being in ruins, wondering is God going to be faithful to his promises and that's the imaginative framework that he's drawing upon, this biblical narrative and story about even in the midst of your exile, even in the midst of despair, God is who he says he is, he reigns. He's going to do exactly what he says he's going to do. And he does it specifically in the person of Jesus, but now there are two people who are going to benefit from this. 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Not just a sense of personal Salvation, but of cosmic shalom and peace and order. Those things are crucial, they're aspects of the good news of the gospel and I think one of the things that I did want to I didn't want to rush through this passage without treating this for a second, which is that let me ask you guys this question. No. Well, just saying. I don't know. I don't have questions. Maybe no. The flow of am I wrong to read it like those who believe in what they hear? Are then sent out as proclaimers of what they have heard. Is that the flow here? I think so. I mean, proclaimer here, I think, has obviously very broad meaning. And I'd be very, I mean, you guys maybe have other readings of this. But as I read it, it has a very broad it doesn't mean like we're all pastors, elders, preachers. You don't have to have a Bible in front of God's people and open it up and expose it and preach it or to lead a women's Bible study or imsa bobble study. Some people are gifted in the gift of teaching, but all of us have now been called to proclaim and to be sent out about the good news of Jesus. So even just this past week, like yesterday, we were at my church here in Nevada. We were celebrating what Jesus has done for us. We did that through the lord's supper. And that means every single person in our church stands to proclaim and have these beautiful feet of those who are bringing good news that Jesus has brought restoration and peace both to ignorant people and defiant people, and he's the one that now we're saying God is bringing peace shalom and restoration in and through him. And so it doesn't matter if you're 11 years old or 91 years old, it doesn't matter if you've gone to seminary, you're not going to seminary, you can be a proclaimer, like a scent one to make sure that the good news of Jesus is known wherever you are. Yeah. And that proclamation, I think, for Paul and Jin was already kind of hitting on this a little bit, looking back on Israel's calling after the exodus to be a witness to the nations. I don't think that the message of proclamation and preaching. Well, I should say it like this. I've been playing around with this for a little while now. I think actually taught on this way back in the training program, JT, but I'd be curious to get your thoughts on this. I think the method of proclamation, there are sometimes when the emphasis is go and tell in scripture and there are sometimes where the emphasis is come and see. There is a dynamic to the mission of God, where there are times when it's like come and see the character of God's people. I think about you, you don't just see this in the Old Testament, though, I think you see it very clearly there. You don't get a very clear go and tell ministry mission given to post exodus Israel. You don't. You get a, you're going to go into the land. I want you to behave and walk in my ways and the nations will see that that testifies to the character of yahweh, and they will be drawn to my presence, the temple that's in the midst of you. A house of prayer for the nations, but it's really more of this kind of outside in kind of mission strategy. And Jesus, I think, is referencing this when he tells the disciples. They're going to know you by the love that you have for one another, right? So there's a sense in which there's a common sea aspect of the mission. And then there's a go and tell aspect of the mission, which is more of what we think about oftentimes, I think, is evangelism, which is more of like the public proclamation and invitation to receive Christ Jesus. Do you think that is one of those more in view here? Because it does seem to be emphasizing sit in this. I think both of them are true broadly or can both of them be faithful applications of this living with the beautiful feet of those who preach the good news. I don't know. Well, I'm wondering if JT is going to reference back to Pentecost at this point, like is this the new thing of the New Testament? The go and tell aspect of it. Or the new emphasis. I shouldn't say new thing, but is it a new emphasis? Oh, man. I don't want to fight today. You want to fight every day. I'm just holding myself back. I'm restraining myself. No, I mean, yeah, I don't know if I would call it a new thing. I know you're not. Yeah, this is a thing that God is now doing in Jesus that the imaginative framework of the narrative of the Old Testament is informing for God's people. There are Jews and gentiles who are now participating, but now they both don't participate in separate ways. It's not like, okay, now I have to be proselytized or I have to participate in a little bit of law. It's that God's Holy Spirit at Pentecost has descended in the way that we participate is through as Kyle said earlier, like allegiance, faith, loyalty to king Jesus. His Holy Spirit descending upon us both as individuals and as communities, those communities are now set up as local churches, embassies of the kingdom of God that now are supposed to be planted. This is related to what you're saying, Jen, but I've just been one of the things I've been meditating on as I think about preaching through Romans is one of the most faithful apologetics that athanasius talks about and on the incarnation is that this God man who descended and took upon flesh is now risen in heaven as the ascended lord at Pentecost, but continually. Like Pentecost is a one time event, it's the first time God's spirit is poured out that way. But it's also now this ongoing event that the church gets to participate in that we are vivified to use systematic theology language. We are made new, we are made alive through the resurrection of the lord Jesus and through his Ascension in his pouring out. This is what he does in John chapter 20. He breathes the spirit about on his disciples for the first time. And now we get to participate in this mission of being sent because we have been full and are being filled by the Holy Spirit that king Jesus is now giving us because he's at the right hand of the father. And so this is a whole new framework like Paul drawing on this these Isaiah passages. I was just looking up Isaiah chapter 65, which he also highlights as well. This has to be revolutionary for them. Like their hope, if the Jews hope still might be what God's really going to set up a nation here. He's really going to set up a template. And maybe we should rebuild a wall again, like Ezra and nehemiah. And Paul is pushing on that and saying no, this thing is now for you to go and tell so that to use Kyle's language, they would come and see that my spirit is being poured out, not just on Jews, but on all people who proclaim loyalty and allegiance in Jesus. Okay, I want to go biblical theology for just a second. Let's do it. So you have, you know, I'm thinking about the sending out of the 12 in the gospels, right? They're supposed to go and proclaim and he sends about two by two. And there's a parallel there to the sending of the 12 tribes into the promised land to rule to take it over and subdue it. Right? You would say that, right? And so I'm wondering if in the New Testament, they're using words to set boundary lines, right? Like they're basically declaring God's boundary lines when they, when we give the gospel, that's something that we do. We say, this is how God has ordered the cosmos and repent and belief, right? And so even though, in the Old Testament, you don't see the 12 tribes going in and proselytizing. I think that what is recorded for us in the Old Testament is still the same idea. It's that the knowledge of God goes out into the land of the gentiles in a way that is proclaiming his character. Along the same lines that the disciples are going to when they're sent out into Jerusalem Judea and the end of the earth. Yes, no? I would say that. I mean, Kyle, you probably have a more sophisticated answer, which is why I jumped in before you. But this is to go back to Romans chapter four and then genesis 12 to 17. I think that's exactly right, Jen. I mean, what does it mean for God's people to be a blessing to the nations through the faith of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and their families. It's like this, again, to use Kyle's language. This is not just intellectual ascent. It's now through your faith in yahweh. Through your faith in the one who's been covenant committed to you and is committed himself to you through covenant that's going to transform your life and the nations are going to be blessed through that faith that you have so that they might see the character of God and the knowledge of God through your faithful obedience. Kyle's rubbing his head, but before you say something, I just want to ask. So let me go back to the conquest again, right? I mean, they basically go out with the sword, right? And you could argue that in the New Testament paradigm, the sword is the word of God, that they're using to go and the whole powers and principalities thing, like that it is warfare, but it is of a spiritual nature. That was portrayed in physical terms in the Old Testament. So I guess what I'm asking is, is the question of whether it's telling or showing is that really kind of not even the right question, isn't it all the same thing? Yeah, maybe it's not. That's what I was thinking about when you brought it up. So when you think about the conquest period, the key thing there is not even just the overthrow of the canaanite nations. It's the demonstration of God's dominion over the whole of the world. And with the sending out of the 12 and the gospels, the operative thing that he sends them out to do. I mean, when you read Matthew ten, you know, he called to him his 12 disciples he gave them authority over unclean spirits to cast them out to heal every disease and every affliction. It's repeated in verse 5 through 8, basically, proclaim the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, hill the sick raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons, and so I think that maybe what we're seeing and maybe why obedience language is used in Romans, chapter ten, is that, okay, in the Old Testament, the mission of God was a demonstration of his dominion over the whole of the world. In the gospel ministry, Jesus sends out the disciples to demonstrate his dominion over the whole of the world. Although the demonstration is primarily spiritual and then in Romans ten, this kind of call of obedience to the gospel language in terms of the proclamation is a further continuance of that evangelistic call, which is be fruitful, multiply image bearers, cultivate and subdue, extend dominion over the whole of the world. Gentiles and Jews alike, even they are in Rome. And so maybe it's not about just word or work, maybe it's about just the continued proclamation of God's mighty axe and his sovereign power, his lordship over all things. And sometimes the emphasis is on proclamation and sometimes the emphasis is on acts of power, but it seems like the consistent thing is to say to the canaanites in the land or the Jews and gentiles around Galilee or to the people of the church in Rome, hey, listen up, a new king is here. He's the rightful king, and he's establishing his kingdom. And the time of invitation to.
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"Faith. That's good. And again, I always want to be an advocate on this show given Jen's constant barrage of biblical theology, which we all benefit from consistently. I want to be an advocate for systematic theology. But Kyle I'd love to hear your thoughts here about this. I almost wonder if this is one of the areas where systematic theology has failed us, like it so the goal of systematic theology is to take all of God's truth in synthesize it so that we can understand it. That includes biblical theology systematics, truth, history, philosophy, and putting all these things together. Systematic theology is so hard, like it's just a really I don't mean to say it's harder than biblical theology. It's just a challenging discipline. But when systematic theology tries to simplify things, which it has to do, sometimes it can oversimplify things. And when we think about the doctrine of Salvation, often we only think about the doctrine of justification. I have been forgiven and made right. But the doctrine of Salvation must also include this doctrine of sanctification. And when we have bifurcated those two things, that has enabled or allowed people to think I have been made right, I don't have to be made wholly or I have to be made wholly in order to be made right. And again, this is systematic, theology creating categories, which we should, the Bible does, but I'm going to say something that my systematic theology friends are going to hate like Paul doesn't have those two categories. Right. Like those are categories that help us think about stuff, but Paul is not thinking to himself in Romans chapter four doing justification in an enrollment chapter 6 of doing sanctification. He's thinking to himself. Look what God has done for you. Therefore, you've been justified at sanctified, like they're the same thing. Does that make sense? Oh, it does. It does. And this is something over the next couple of weeks I'm talking about in the life of our church through the preaching ministry, which is that we often think grace is permission to go do what we're now free. And that's true. But the way that Paul talks about grace the way the Bible talks about grace is you have been given freedom, not so that you can live, however you want so that you can now live in God's ways. The writers of the Bible presuppose that God's way is better than your way. And what God is calling us to is better than what we would do on our own. And I think sometimes we think about justification sanctification in these very categorical terms and it's like, well, you need justification and sanctification would be really nice. Like, please do it. Please walk, please like almost like a begging. You know, you have been saved. Now walk in the fruit of that. Walk in the righteous way. Paul's presuming that you're going to walk in the newness of life like you couldn't be righteous. And if you've received righteousness, you now know what you didn't have, you've been given it freely so you're going to perform it widely. You're going to practice it, you know? And I think that sometimes we look at this and we go, we kind of like, well, I've been forgiven, you know? All my debts are clear. It's like, yeah, but that forgiveness is a foundation for you to begin to live faithfully. How'd you like that? Forgiveness is a foundation, three F's. See, you're just ahead of me and you're preaching calendar. Here I am working it out and here you are with the alliteration. I was really tempted to say that about I almost just said I really F that up. It is good to me. I wish our sister was with us, but if she were here right now, she would be having a giggle fit. Oh man, I said it in my head and I said, I'm not gonna say that, and then I said it. So don't cancel me out in these Twitter streets, please. Captivity out here. With this broken butthole. Oh boy. Now that one we may have to cut. Okay, if you're a first time listener, then you might, there's more backstory on that broken comma butt hole. So just know this isn't us going off the rails. Well, we're going through those a little bit. We are, we are a little bit. We don't have our we don't have our referee here. This is actually done pretty good so far. Yeah, we have. I'm proud of us, but it's like, have you ever seen like two kids whose mom? They're like 9 and 7 and the mom's like, go have fun boys. And the first ten minutes, they're really like disciplined. And then things start getting a little unwieldy. I feel like that's like we have a moment here, brother, to we can rein it in or we can just keep going. I mean, we'll see what the spirit does. Who knows? Yeah, I think I know what our older sister would say. So Paul does set up a dynamic here that's pretty important for Romans, which is this in Adam in Christ. Dynamic. And we get a couple of these in quick succession in Romans 5 through 8. We get in Adam in Christ and we get this dynamic between flesh and spirit. So maybe JT, would you talk about inanimate Christ and then I'll move to flesh spirit? Yeah, so representation means everything for Paul, like this might be something that in kind of a 21st century postmodern highly individualistic and highly autonomous world that you might have a hard time getting our minds around. But this would not have been challenging at all for the biblical authors. There is this idea. I'm going to use the big maybe theological category. It's called federal headship. What we mean by that is representation. We are being represented by somebody. And pollen room in chapter 5 is saying, you're either being represented by being in and in a such a huge category for Paul. In Adam or you're being represented by being in Christ and in some of us might love the idea of being in Christ and balk at the idea of being an atom. And the reality is, is you can't have one without the other. If you want to be in Christ, you also have to realize you're in Adam. It wasn't just that you're in yourself and now you need Jesus. It's a realization that there's two humans who have ever lived in some sense. If we're simplifying all of world history, Adam has lived in Christ has lived. You are either in the center or you are in the savior. You're either in the one who fell short of God's law or in the one who perfectly obeyed God's law and by his grace and mercy to you gives you his obedience on your behalf. So we get this dynamic in Romans 5 of in Adam in Christ. In Romans 8, we start to get another dynamic. So Roman 6 and 7 are kind of fleshing out, so to speak, okay, what is the impact that justification has on us? Okay, well, it doesn't just give us a license to do whatever we want. Now we're called to walk faithfully on the foundation we've been given. And then in Romans 8, the atom Christ dynamic switches over to a flesh spirit dynamic. Romans ate verse 5 for those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the spirit set their minds on the things of the spirit. So we get this dynamic between flesh and spirit, which is that we are born in the flesh and Paul does not mean here. We are born like our flesh, like our actual bodies. He's not a gnostic. He's not saying, our bodies are dirty and grimy. It's material existence is a profane. It's less holy than the spiritual soul existence. That's not how flesh is being used here. It's being used with reference to our natural state apart from the intervening grace of God in Salvation, which.
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"You can make a mistake and fall into a winner circle. Family time ran on the dirt over here. We didn't run on it to PETA. But she did run very well and Corey rode her well and you know we've kind of figured out with her. She can get to the leads. She's hard to get by and that's what happened the other day and she paid $30 and a lot of people out of my friends made a lot of money. Thank you, Dale. All right. All right. Still a couple minutes left, 888-966-4776. I love when these listeners welcome us to the program. They're welcoming you. They're thanking you for joining us. This is fantastic. It's good stuff. All right, couple minutes left 888-966-4776. Eric is in West Virginia and he sends a note to the show. And again, that's another way to do it. It might get horse racing radio dot net. And he said, good Dale, please spend a minute talking about roses in May. There you go, Dale. There you go, Rosen, amazing. Great story. He was my first grade one winner. And he had been with Todd Fletcher and he had injured attendant. He was turned out. Ken Ramsey, I went up on a first start working for him inspecting all the babies. And there's a three year old in a barn. And he's got he does have a tenant. So on the way back, I called Ken and I said Ken, I'll tell you about your babies later, but I love that dark horse. We need to get him off this little racetrack. Can I bring him on in? He said, you're going to have, you know, that's a pretty good story. He said, but did you go to the coal barn with a horses were selling? I said, no, I didn't. So I whipped in there. And they pull out 5 horses are going through the sale with no reserve and this big pretty chestnut walks out. I said, damn, that's a nice source. I get back in the car and call Ken. I said, keep the chestnut. Well, the chestnut ended up being kitten's joy. The bay horse was rose to me. So if I wanted to see rows in May, I never know about kids joy. And that trip to up there changed my entire life. But he was a tough horse to train, but he wanted to get out, you know, pull it outside, and he had a bad feed. He always was cracking a hole for something. And it's like hangnails. They get quarter cracks, and he was had one in every foot all the time, and he had that old ten and you had to work it. But when he never had a horse that could go so fast early and never get tired. In Dubai for the World Cup and we draw the 12 hole outside which ends up being pretty good because it was a one turn mile a quarter. And we're talking Johnny, you know, you go and lead and slowing down slowing down. I kind of interrupt us. Listen, Johnny gole go fast, because they're all going to pull them all out of their race. They're all going to be chasing you and none of them will be able to finish. And if you watch, it looks like chalk to our nation's going to fly by him and he just hits the wall and no roses just never got tired and kept right on going. And after the press conference and everything, I'm going back to the barn and there was nobody there, but me and him, it was pitch black outside and I went and put him in a sand pit and let him roll around and I said, you just bailed me out of a lot of traps, buddy. Thank you very much. What a great story. One more color on the line. We do have time for one more call. It's done in Nashville, Don. Go ahead. You're on with del Romans. AO, I just wanted to tell you that I've been to the Churchill downs many times and I've been to the Derby many, many years and the one enjoyment that I get every time I'm there is when I can see you down saddling your horses and mingling with the crowd and just being an all right gentleman. And I appreciate that and I wish you all the luck in the world. Thank you, Don next time you're there. Yell at me. You come sit with me in the box for a race. I can't believe how many race and fans come out of Tennessee. And there's no racing down there. I don't know where they got connected. But there's a whole brigade of them. Yeah, yeah. There really is. Don appreciate the phone call. We ended up dropping down right after he asked the question so he didn't get a chance to respond. But that's a very nice offer and I'm sure Don will take you up on that when you see some Churchill next time Dale. Sounds good. All right. Dale Romans, you be the host. I appreciate everybody who called in. Well, thank you and thank you for sending those emails to the show too. Dale appreciate you taking some time, my friend and we're going to look forward to catching up again in about ten minutes with the I asked the answer. We got a lot to talk about. See you talk to you in a minute..
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"romans" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"What kind of fondest memories you have of that coming north of the border? Also traveling around the world, give me a give us a viewing or listening audience a little bit of a play on how you're feeling about and where you've been and any good times you've had. Well, Canada, I've only been to believe it or not a couple of times, and one time first time I went to a run something. I didn't get to go. The first time I went was just to go up on a vacation trip and went to the races just for fun. And I love Canadian racing. We've run a few there, one a couple of races, but it's beautiful. But the main place I've been to buy 8 times have been to Hong Kong to race. You know, horse race is a great equalizer all around the world. And we all do it basically the same way. People you run into everywhere when you travel the world are all the same. We all love racing with all the horses. And it becomes a big party and it's been a lot of fun. But it's hard to beat Hong Kong or Dubai, both of them are just so much excitement and so such big races and so many people turn out and it's just totally first class event. Again, you get to you get to be around greatness in this game. And that's one of the so many good things about horse racing. That's one of them. It just makes everybody equal around the world. You know, this segment is called you be the host. I turn the show over to listeners and they get to host the show and Lou nailed it when he called in. Lou, that was outstanding. Welcome both of us to the podcast. He didn't just ask you a question. He opened the show, Dale. I like that. I like that. Come on. People don't need to be afraid to call and ask. Yeah, you've done it before. You hijack the show. I remember that one morning at king. I had to get you started one day. I do have an email here. John in Maryland wants to know what your favorite memory of shackleford oh, there's so many good ones. I sacrificed, but I think coming from Maryland, he knows which one's my fondest. When he took turn and cut the corner at pimlico and opened up to and then held off the Derby one or to win the Preakness. And, you know, if you win a classic, that just puts your career on a different level. And I've been third in a previous three times, but we did get to one at once. And that was a great day. It's a great day as a train. I remember that next morning. I woke up a little headache. I don't remember why. And a phone rings. It was Jack Vlad. And then that old gruff voice and he said, welcome to the club, boy, you're a classic one in trainer now. I said it's done getting better than that. All right, call in now. 888-966-4776. Your chance to be the host of the show and talk with trainer Dell Roman's Todd is in Minnesota. Todd, go ahead. Your honor Dell Romans. Hello, Dale. Yeah, and thanks for telling me about hauling time on Halloween. That was fantastic, had a nice day. Yeah. Yeah, that was a good hunchback. Okay. First off, I got a compliment, and then a question for you. I want to thank you for being so honest with your answers and not worrying about being politically correct. And this is going to be kind of a dumb answer, but being here so even killed, you probably don't care, but what do you feel about winning the Derby or how much do you put the attention or what would it mean to you? That's first of all, thank you, and I don't know about how to be politically correct and it's probably something problems in my life. But no, the Derby is center for the biggest thing we're all looking for. All of us are working for the same thing. And my career now, especially with the help from the old balls and a lot of the good owners I have, but we've got to program strictly to get to the Derby. And we've been able to do it four times, but Jason that manages the team of all racing told me our goals have changed. It's not to get to the Derby mortgage to win the Derby. So it's about 80% of my focus in my life. Okay, well, good luck. I know you got a couple contenders probably this year, so hopefully they stay healthy and I hope you win it. You deserve it. Thank you, bob. We got a couple going that way. All right, 888-966-4776. You have about 5 minutes left in this segment to be the host of the show. Again, we do this every Saturday, 10 a.m. eastern, and you get to call in and ask questions. Which is kind of nice. I get a little break here, Dale. I like this. Our listeners are asking great questions, too. They are asking good questions. Intelligent listeners. Yeah. We've been working on it for a long time. We've been doing this a while and you've been educating them for a while. 888-966-4776. Matt is in Louisville. Matt, you are on the line with del Romans. Go ahead. Hey, dad, welcome to the show. I was always about to have you. I'm just comment about family Tom. You want me a lot of money on that to PETA racetrack and I'm seeing what made you think you would like to Peter and also how's that game doing? I had him 35 to one year. First of all, giant games doing great. He's he hasn't missed a beat since we're putting back on the serious schedule after British copy hasn't missed a beat he's worked right down here in pointing towards the holy ball. But I hate to tell you, you know, handicapping a lot.
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"Yeah, of course you'll be back later ten 30 eastern with Tim wilkin and I asked the answer. I do have a question via email that was submitted by Sally Ellen in Maryland and she wants to know how you found your experience when judging the Maryland horse breeders association yearling show back in 2017. Hey, that's a good question. That was one of the greatest weekends of my life. I'd say, and it was an honor to do. He looked down to the list of guys that have gone over there and done it from Alan jerkins or woody Stevens and Leroy jolly. The hero, my heroes growing up and in for them to invite me and Tammy she helped me the whole time. It was just an extremely fun event. And I'm waiting on another invitation to come back. Well, she also wanted to thank you from a showman's point of view for changing up the class procedures. I guess allowing the year links to walk around the ring clockwise with the horses on the inside of the handler until the judge was ready. And she said, it made a big difference to those that were on the shanks that day. That was a lot of help. That was a really fun day. And why do you think, call me again? We'll come back. Never pass up a chance for crap cakes. All right, your chance to talk to trainer Dale Romans. If you've ever had a question you wanted to ask Dale, now is the time to do it. This next 15 minutes is all about you. You be the host of the show 8 8 8 9 6 6 four 7 7 6, the number to call Gus is in Florida. Gus, go ahead. You're on the line with Dale Romans. Hey, Dale, how are you doing? I'm doing great, Gus. What's going on today? Not much. Not this time. I mean, he's becoming a very prominent sire. I mean, he's got probably the favors today in the lecom at the fairgrounds. He always he also has a simplification, probably in a couple of weeks in a holy bowl, just so what did you see in him and what do you think his potential is as a sire, especially going no longer distances. No, let me tell you something he was a horse that he had of minor injury when he was a baby. He was so we didn't know how long he could make it, but the four races I had him. I think he's the best dirt horse I ever had by far. And he was just the absolute perfect horse. He had a class about a way acted. He had the looks. He had a deep pedigree. You know, he's a half brother Liam's map. His sister Taylor S I got her first full stand here looking at me right now to barn. He's just got all the parts to be the next storm cat. And now he's getting the merits of mayors that fold this year are all the quality grade one race mares Greg one producers. He's got some great mares coming. It's doing great right now, but it's going to be exciting when he's good and he moves them all up. And he said, no tell him how good he can get. All right, 88. They'll go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I was going to say that's right to hear in a best wishes with giant scheme going through the Triple Crown. Thank you. I got howling time too. He just worked this morning. Don't forget about him. He's not this time. Keep your eye out for him. All right, Gus in Florida. I appreciate the phone call. 8 8 8 9 6 6 four 7 6. If you want to four 7 7 6, if you want to talk to Dale Romans, you can do it right now. 8 8, 8, 9, 6, 6, 8, call Dale and ask him anything you've always wanted to ask him. Dale, I noticed that we had somebody that was kind of hating on the beard on social media, wanted to know when you were going to shave off that as they called it ridiculously looking beard. I think it looks cool. I liked it, but it's gone. It's been gone since first new year. So, yeah. It's cut 20 years off of my life, I said. It probably did. I always thought it looked kinda good. It kind of set you apart. Right, that was a little different. Yeah, I didn't ever had a beard. I grew on a pandemic, and I left it for a while. It's gone, no. How come you wanted to grow in? What led you to do that? But just being bored, locked in the house, and then I got used to not shaving. All right, 888-966-4776, and never to call, asked Dale Romans anything you'd like. He's had a storied career and I tell you all the time that it's a sport filled with characters and character and Dale is certainly one of those. He's larger than life in the game of thoroughbred racing, and you get a chance to talk to him right here on UB the host. Dale, there's going to be people that are gun shy and don't want to call in because they don't want to be on radio. So we're encouraged them to that they can email us. Mike get horse racing radio dot net if they want to ask you a question that way. I have a question for you. So your greatest training feat of all time. If you could pick one, what would that training fee be? A little Mike going to mile and a half in the breeders cup, turf. I thought, you know, you had Ramon on last week and we had been planning on running that horse in the mile. And it looked like wise Dan was just unbeatable. And everybody thought that little Mike was just a mile and they said he got lucky going to mount a quarter and I liked a million they let us go. And Carlo and I talked about it today before and she said, we have got to go into mile and a half inch we'd be on the lead all the way around, I thought. And then you get to form, and there's two speed horses in the race. We can't get in front of them, but where we need to be and win. So the paddock we told her most to just sit there, act like you're on the lead. They'll collapse in front of you. You don't inherit the lead at the 8th pole and just ride your ass off to the wire. And that's exactly how it happened. And Ramon that has to be the secret to race of his career. I know it's the biggest race you ever won. But how many people could have gotten that horse to shut off and train and run away he did like ramone did. So fast forward a few years later, amongst retired and bad Hall of Fame, great jockeys, Sarah toga. And I see him in the parking lot when I came out. He's all excited like a kid in the candy store, so you won't believe what I was just doing. So I was talking to Georgia Velasquez and lafitte pink guy and angel Cordero. We were all over there talking. And I sento Vasquez. I said, so why don't you realize you were ever been as good? If not better than ever one of them. And you know, Ramona always collects it. He took a minute. He looked at me. He said, I think you're biased because we did something special together. In true ramone fashion. It's really remote fashion. You know, that this business in this sport is giving me a chance to do a lot of special things. But that's one of the most special. All right, we go north of the border for our next caller that's Lou in Toronto Lou. Go ahead. You're on the phone with Dell Romans. Hey, Gail. Hi, Mike. I want to welcome both.
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"romans" Discussed on How to Study the Bible
"Like in our world, two things come to mind. The first one is a building. And the second one is a criminal. When I think about the idea of a building being condemned, it means it is destroyed beyond repair. Not only that, but that it is so broke down so wrong that it's actually dangerous and that the condemnation of the building is because this thing is so beyond repair that it has crossed over to being destructive to others. It has danger for others. It can impact your own safety, right? You think about a criminal being condemned. It's a final judgment. It is a sense of now justice has been served. We have seen who you really are and we are condemning you for your action. It's permanent. It's a sense of being destroyed that you can't actually come back from what that is. And then we read Roman's chapter 8 verse one that says, therefore, there is none of that in Christ Jesus. Every part of our lives that might feel like they are destroyed beyond repair or that we've made a mistake that we can never come back from, or we have a past that we have to keep rehearsing and repeating and feeling regret for or we have a situation where we've been hurt so badly that we believe that somehow we're condemned. Someone has condemned us through their action, and there's no coming back from that all of that is destroyed. You think about all of that and know that there is no condemnation in Christ. So moving on from there, I want to see how the whole rest of the chapter sets us up with the confidence to believe that these words are true that they're actually is no condemnation in Christ and there's reasons why. So we're going to work through the chapter. I'm going to give you just an outline just a few words if you're following along and you want to take notes. And then we're going to circle back, okay? So Romans ate one is the promise. Romans 8 two through four is the how, the how of the promise, Romans ate 14 and 15 is the permanence of the promise. Romans 8, 26 and 27 is the confidence of the promise. And Romans 8 31 through 39 just circles us back to how awesome the promises are again. So we're going to look at those quickly. So I've got the promise the how, the permanence, the confidence, circling back again on how awesome those promises are. So what's the backstory is our second question, the alive method, and I want to do what's the backstory with Roman's 8 versus two through four. Hey listeners, if you're a parent then we've got a show for you. We know that parenting is not for the faint at heart. It can be hard to connect with your child throughout the many stages of their life. That's why Verna retell host of mama take heart is back this fall. Wife, mom, writer, podcast host, coffee lover and military veteran robina has a passion to help you be an influential voice in your daughter's life. In this show, she gives listeners the tools they need to love and lead well in their child's formative years. Whether you're looking for ways to intentionally connect or to have hard conversations. You can find the mama take heart podcast on life audio dot com or in your favorite podcast app. And don't forget to hit subscribe so you don't miss an episode. So we've just read this big promise that there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. And then we get it because two through four, we can circle or underline because. Okay, so this is the reason for it. Because through Christ Jesus, the law of the spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own son. In the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh. Okay? In order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not live according to the flesh, but according to the spirit. Okay, that's a lot, especially if you're not familiar with the backstory. This is why actually the Old Testament matters so much. When Paul is writing to the Romans and obviously to an a Jewish audience. He is using the Old Testament, the law, what was laid out in the Old Testament to explain how Jesus is the perfect completion of what the law was always meant to do. So if you want to know more about this, obviously, there's the Old Testament, also the book of hebrews, which maybe we'll study together later. The idea of the book of hebrews kind of gives us this understanding of how Jesus is the perfect sacrifice. He was our perfect prophet priest and king. He completes all of those Old Testament roles are actually fulfilled and completed in the work of Jesus Christ. But we get a little nod to that right here. When Paul is talking about, hey, Jesus actually became the sin offering. And if you know anything about the Old Testament, you know that when an offering was brought to God, there were priests who attended the altar all the time. They were the ones who actually made atonement for sin. So when you came to atone for your sin to confess and to make a sacrifice on behalf of your sin, you were supposed to bring an animal without defect. That was a big deal. It had to be a perfect animal. That was a shadow of what was to come in the Passover, which is sort of the great high the great high day in the Jewish faith. That lamb had to be brought without defect as a sacrifice that would allow death to pass over that household. So that's a nod back to the story and exodus. So when we hear this idea of a sin offering, what we know and what we're hearing is that Jesus was actually the only perfect sacrifice. The only one in the flesh who came as a man and in his life he embodied sinlessness. And perfect holiness, the only man who has ever done so, Jesus, who was fully man and fully God, lived a perfect life. So that he could be a perfect sacrifice. And in my mind, it's almost like I see a marvel movie when the world explodes because the perfect thing happens and it's like Jesus as the perfect sacrifice exploded the system. Because he actually was the complete fulfillment of what was needed in order to atone for sin past present and future. In his perfection, he abolished the need for continual sacrifices that would be less than. The whole idea is like Jesus did for us what we could never do for ourselves. Anything that I would try to do to atone for my sin could never replace what Jesus did. It's like a terrible option. Like a terrible not good sacrifice. There's a story in scripture. There's a parable and in the parable, you know, there's a man who owes his king all this money. And he comes to the king and he thinks he can pay it off, but actually what he owes the king is like, he would have to work his entire lifetime like a 160 years every single day of every year to even come close to paying off what he owed. And I think the reason that that is set up in scripture like that is to help us understand that what we would need to do to atone for a lifetime of sin could never be repaid. There wouldn't be enough atonement possible. Probably not atonement, enough possible for the thoughts that you've had. This morning, the way that you've treated people today, that the judgment that we hold in our heart, the selfishness that we have, our syn nature that has us constantly looking out for ourselves to the detriment of others. We don't live holy lives. We already broke that down, right? And Romans chapter one, two and three. So when we get here, what we want to understand is that Jesus did what abolish that system. He was the perfect fulfillment of that system. The whole Old Testament system was designed to point us to Jesus the perfect sacrifice. Who in being the perfect sacrifice means he gets to set the conditions and the conditions are he has done for us what we could never do for ourself. There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. He is the one because of his perfect sacrifice who can declare that. God declared him, and he declared it finished. Therefore, to continue to live as if it is not finished is to live outside of what God desires for us. Now, is that a struggle? Absolutely. Does it take work to embrace and believe the grace of God, not just for the time when we were not in Christ? But for right now, when you are in Christ, one of you in the Facebook group talked about how you feel like you struggle even more that you're a Christian. Well, what's happening is that holiness is becoming more evident in you. More and more light is coming into your heart. And as that happens, you see more and more of your own darkness and sin. It says in scripture, we know in Romans, where calloused to our sin before we are in Christ. But when we are in Christ our eyes are opened and the things we use to desire the ways we use to think aren't as appealing anymore, but we may find ourselves still falling into them. And so we have to return to Roman's 8 one again and again, and when we find ourselves wanting to shame or condemn ourselves for our sin, we need to return to the promises of this chapter, therefore, there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus, and he has told us why and how inverses two through four. Moving on versus 14 and 15, we hear the permanence of what Jesus has done. It says in 14 and 15, for those who were led by the spirit of God are the children of God. The spirit you received does not make you slaves so that you live in fear again. Rather the spirit you received brought about your adoption to son's ship. And by him we cry, ABBA father, the spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. We have a permanent adoption, our identity has been permanently replaced. We belong in a family. There may have been times in your life when you wish that you didn't belong in the family that you belong in. But you can't change your name. You can't change your bloodline. It's in your DNA, it's your family. And so when Paul uses this analogy to say, this is how permanent it is. When you come into Christ, it is permanent. You have been adopted into sunship. You can't get out of it. You're in it. It's done. You are now a son or daughter of God. That is your new bloodline. That is your DNA. That is who you are. So that's the permanence. That's the permanence of our position in God and that is worth celebrating. Moving on Romans 8, 26 and 27. I love these verses because this is a place of confidence that because there is no condemnation in Christ because we have been adopted and that's a permanent identity. We can have confidence about the way that we interact with God. I see so many Christians who are so tentative in the way they interact like they're continuing to be on trial somehow. This is a job interview and got at any point going to be like, sorry, actually you didn't make the cut. You're not living right, you're not doing it right. You're not doing Bible study writer prayer write or whatever. And a lot of us don't realize that that is a very deceptive sort of way of still living and works righteousness. I'm going to prove myself to God. I'm going to do all these things right and there might be a part of us that thinks. And if I do it all right, my life's gonna be great. And yet we're living in a completely different operating system when we get into Roman chapter 8. And in this operating system, we don't even have to know how to pray that now the spirit of God is within you and because of that, verse 26, the spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the spirit because the spirit intercedes for God's people in accordance with the will of God. Do you hear the confidence of that? Sister, brother, when you don't know what to pray for, the spirit is praying for you. When you don't know where you are headed, the spirit is interceding for you. When you are experiencing turbulence and hardship and despair and discouragement, the spirit is interceding for you. You can't do it wrong. What we can do is rest in the spirit and put ourselves into position where we can hear from God because God is 100% most certainly speaking to you. God is actually very involved in invested in interested in being part of your everyday life in your everyday decisions. And it's not because you got to prove to him that you're worth it, it's because the spirit is in you. So everywhere you go and everything you do, the Holy Spirit of God is going with you. And everything that you experience the spirit of God is with you, you don't summon the spirit. You don't decide or ask God, will you be with me or not with me? God is with you. God is within you. And that's why we're more than conquerors because the spirit of God is now living has taken up residence in you. Now I know that it doesn't always feel that way, but that does not change the fact that it's true. We have confidence because the spirit of God is interceding on your behalf even now. And then Roman chapter 8 versus 31 through 39. I.
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"romans" Discussed on How to Study the Bible
"Hey everyone welcome back to how to study the bible. Today is a special day. I've got my new friend. Ray sean graves with us and we're going to do today just a little bit differently for those of you. Who are new here. We are studying through the book of romans and it is not too late to catch up. We're just in romans chapter four today and it's been so fine to gather our community from around really truly around the world Getting to connect with you guys in our facebook group. If you're receiving the reading plan in your email whatever way you're being blessed by this podcast if it's if it's just listening and following along. We're so so glad that you're here and i know for me personally. You guys have created a space for me to have accountability structure in my own bible. Study because Even as pastors we definitely get off track and it's been a really Deconstructing time in all of our lives. And i think being able to do this together in the fall and get back into some structure is awesome. So i want to introduce sean to you. Guys sean is a pastor here in richmond. Virginia where we both live and he's also the host of a podcast called ask pastor. How would it entered the largest real clear. We're real clear with our podcast shuttle racial and welcome to the show. Yes thank you. Thanks for having me on here and Yeah great familiar. Fellow pastor and fellow richmond. Awesome and ray. Sean actually said he wanted to be in chapter four. So we're going to get to do chapter four together and what we wanna do with you guys today. I want to invite you if you have your bible if you want to open it up if you're listening in the car that's cool come with us but If you have read chapter four you've got it in front of you. That's what ray sean. And i are doing. We both have our bibles open in front of us. Were sitting in front of mike but really. We're just doing bible say together and one of the things. That's incredible about the community of faith. Is that god. Calls us the body of christ and we all are different parts of that body and when we come together the way we're doing we have an opportunity to learn from each other's lives and find commonalities but also ways to encourage one another in our differences and so we're going to walk through that together just going to use this four questions that we use in the alive method and talk about this chapter chapter four so our first question is just what is it. Say we always want to remember like man before we go any further. We just we want to be able to summarize what we've read in the most basic form. So ray sean take it away. What is chapter for about. What does it say. it's it's really justification god declaring us righteous all who believe in put their their faith and trust in person work of jesus and how that happens. Okay what that looks like and polls kind of appealing that game ono the wild car. He goes down the wild card. Of abraham you know the jews kinda greatest ancestor and point. So i love how you just said that. So yeah so he's using this wildcard which of course for the rest of us we've got to ask the question remember. We always talking about the alive method when you get to. What is it. Say you should have questions. If you're really reading closely and you're trying to summarize. Not one of us does not are how long you've been in bible. Study should not have a question about it. So i'm writing down like why this wildcard. What would this mean to the audience at the time like when this was written. How would those guys receive that. That's one of my questions coming out of. What does it say. So what else does it say. Yeah i mean just thinking about kind of this whole process of of what it looks like to believe jesus and how it's even more more not so much about our action and what we can do. Even what abraham did using him as an example but what god does and and it means for us in believing jesus and as even going to the end of the passage what. It looks like for us to leave in his death and his resurrection for our justification for acceptance. I love that. I mean that's a great that might be a great way to even proceed forward. It's like okay. What does since abraham's a wildcard. That's us like what does abraham do and what has got do in this passage could even create a little chart and be like okay. What happens. I mean what stands out to me. What i'm underlining is this phrase that comes up a couple of times credited to him as righteousness that there's this abraham believed god and it seems like paul is basically saying. Hey if your argument is that. Abraham did something to be righteous. I'm gonna dismantle the argument especially there in the middle of the chapter where we start talking about. Circumcision and un circumcision. And that's like you probably would want some listening for like. What are you know you might have questions. We're not going to address all those questions right now but again. That would be like a whole section of bible. Study where you'd be like. I probably need to understand what is circumcision mean as a sign. Why was it a seal. And obviously there's a little bit about timeline going on in here we're talking about wait a second guys if you think. That's the reason that abraham's righteous seems to me like paul's wildcard is. He's laying down argument. Why you're you're putting righteousness on the wrong. Addison yeah no. I agree i think the action the working. I mean you look at verse. I four and five work gift work gift and how you know. We're usually wired to wanting to work to earn something or to see. Salvation is something that must be earned by us. But paul talks about here. How it's a gift it's not what righteousness and salvation is is a gift. And so yeah that contrast of kind of how we default how god actually function. And what. God actually is doing in salvation. I think that's a good comparison like what he's getting at. Because you know even as you were about in romans three like if we're all on this kind of you know neutralize place and equal place of being being centers. i mean. we don't want to stay in that place. We want to try to work our way out of to change ourselves. I love that. So i'm like i'm looking and thinking because this obviously like the next step for me. After we've kind of red like a longer passages. I try to try to focus in on like okay. Where where's our main point for today. Now y'all y'all probably know this. By now we study romans for years and take little pieces out of time but obviously we're doing a fly over in the sixteen weeks. I'm really drawn honestly diverse three just because it says what does scripture say. Hey like ding ding ding. Like if the bible says to you what does scripture say. You know like okay. We're probably getting to the heart of the matter like that's a good signal. Look when you're reading and you just picked it up. We were in romans. Three talking about we're all equal. We're all equal as sinners and then pause like okay. what does scripture say this verse. Three abraham believed god and it was credited to him as righteousness. Now for those of you who are following along in your study bible. You're going to notice that that verse is in quotes and that gives us okay. this is from somewhere else. Pause quoting somewhere else in scripture and then are studying notes are going to tell us where that is. So i'm gonna put a little note there for when we get to. What's the backstory. We probably want to know more about that. But then verse support five that you just talked about now to the one who works. Wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation right. If you and i do work and we do honest work. We get a paycheck for it. I five however to the one who does not work. But trust god who justifies the ungodly. Their faith is credited as righteousness and to me. I feel like that's kind of the main part of this chapter. And then you know. Paul bills all the argument around why it doesn't work to depend on basically and he uses like the main guy agrees. Okay let's think about the guy. That's the hero for everyone in the jewish faith and i'm going to basically dismantle his works righteousness. Which can you guys imagine like if you just think about. I don't even know who you think of as a holy person. Let's let's take mother teresa and it's almost like paul saying. Hey.
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"It's close to us and that word should be in the heart of every christian it should be in the heart of every christian because the gospel is god's power to salvation. We know that from romans. One in verse sixteen. We know that works within for a special chapter. Two and verse. Thirteen and that word should be at our fingertips. Paul talks about the word. He uses the definite article idiots literally the word when you look at his writings and we're not look at these references but oftentimes when he writes to timothy. He doesn't just say word. He talks about the word. It is god's word it is the gospel. It is the truth and paul says that that word is so important. It was preached presents now. Having said all that he's laid the foundation for romans chapter ten versus nine through eleven. Here is this word. God has brought it down and it is to be close to your heart. Well it would make sense to maybe talk about something like confession. And that's what we have in romans. Ten versus nine through eleven noticed the because tied in with all the stuff because of how confessed with him off. Jesus as lord and shop leaving the heart that god raised from the dead thou shall be saved for heart man believed with under righteousness with the mouth. Confessions made into salvation for the scripture saith whomsoever believe with on him shall not be put ashamed all right verse seems to be directly connected to what we saw deuteronomy thirty specifically deuteronomy thirty verse. Fourteen brand. Can you go back there and pick it up one more time. I don't know if he's still back there are you worried is very into the in my mouth. I think about what we said the jews. What was there. What was their position thinking. Concerning jesus comes into the world. I mean he tabernacles. He lives among men. Does all these miracles gives numerous teachings..
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"The first time that i stayed romans was. I grew up with the roman road as a way of sharing the gospel with people. And i had never studied romans and was using the roman road is an evangelistic tool and i remember in countering those verses in particular in their context and feeling like what. If i've been doing you know like i didn't even realize what this verse was couched in or the bigger message that it had to connect to so i. I wonder if a lot of our listeners won't find themselves in the same boat of having had sort of a spot knowledge sort of Passages or or particular verses that they can say right immediately off the top of their heads but might not have seen how they fit in the rest of the flow the letter. I think that's really good or how romans fit in the flow of scripture. Yeah a lot of romans is one of those books that get treated as if it stands on its own So what kind of issues will we hit on looking at the letter to the church in row. Jt what kind of issues we're gonna come up. What doctrines what idea is what big picture ideas holiness the righteousness of god is going to be one of the first things that we hit and specifically that relates the sinfulness of humanity really romans one through four is about god's righteousness in our sinfulness and how We can be saved by grace through faith in christ so romans. One through four is kind of this tour to force on a gospel specifically using abraham as and. We've studied him right. We just did. This can be funded for. Genesis is specifically was released the life of abraham how was he credited and account it righteousness right right standing. How is he declared to be right before god Romans five going to talk about this idea of federal headship. Who are you in. Are you in adam or are you in christ. Roman six seven eight begins kind of the hope of the christian life. Sanctification that's teased in throughout romans. One two and three as well. But how do we. How do we know. Begin walking in this new life that we've been given in christ romans nine through eleven. Were just going to skip as fast as we can. And not about it. Now but romans nine through is important for the social context is what does it mean to be a person of faith in a part of the people of god or jews and gentiles and what does it mean for ethnic historical israel. That's nine through lebanon The end of the book really romans. Twelve and following is is Again kind of active occasion christian lies like what does it mean to walk. Believe in live as a follower of jesus in first century. Rome is somebody who's learning to follow jesus of nazareth good. Wow i didn't expect all that but you just gave us the overview So listener there you go. That's all you needed on rome right. We'll bullet points right there. That off the top of your head. One of the kind you are. Jt one of a kind general chapters guys. It's not that long. You're excited about talking about in romans. Yes i mean. I love romans one so quiet..
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"Much better. I know. I didn't know you were going with that. Let me be the first to welcome you to two thousand six and and also to say how glad i am like. It's main communication so much nicer. You know i gotta say it really. Has it really has. I did not know what. I was missing out on. I would see just these little text messages. Pop up that would say something that would say jin has liked this Or jin has just liked this or jt has heart. Jt loves this. I came across on my apple. Phone and so anyways it was definitely a. It's been an upgrade for shakin. See you're still learning like you'll still go ha ha ha in response to something. Jt it. i said that's really finding mike dude. Just hit the button. You'll be you'll be. Why did you tell them jen. This is like thomas this morning. We were working on this new thing that he gets. It's like a way to kind of construction things. And he calls the instructions constructions and i e to not change the way he says it. And that's the same way. I feel about when kyle does ha. It's like. don't tell the little boy that he has it wrong. It's so cute. I like that very much. I liked emoji. i would use it. I want to emphasize this great. I'm glad we started off the episode with emasculating. Comparing me to your child boy. I am learning and much like thomas. There will come a time where i will no longer call it construction. Jt isn't that sweet. He calls the instructions construct data and we read the construction so much. Kyle it is sweet. Well thank you for asking christian yeah i did have a great. I was on sabbatical this summer. Which i'm tremendously grateful for And it was really. It was a tremendous blessing. Ten years of ministry First of all so. I was very grateful for it and was ready and it was. It was a blessing. It was really good. So i had a great summer. And i'm excited to be doing romans. i've been preaching romans as both of you know and Jay he's about to start preaching romans just drafted on you. My friend just dressed in is going to be teaching romans..
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"Well yeah that would be helpful. And if you look over two chapters let's take a look at romans chapter eleven. Paul has a lot to say about the jews and gentiles in this chapter. But let's take a look. Romans eleven seventeen but if some of the branches were what broken off. Who do you think he's talking about the jews and then he says there were some people who grafted in that you think. Those people were gentiles. So if all says the jews were broken off it sure sounds like they were not in a right relationship with god and that's not the only time you can read through the whole chapter in verse twenty two as well. he says. Same chapter beholden the goodness and severity of god toward them. That fell severity. Who do you think those who fell. Were the jews. But he says towards the gods goodness christians if you continue or if you remain in that goodness so romans romans nine ten eleven on difficult information but when people start talking about the jews and many do they've got some really strange beliefs about what will happen with them. At the end of time. These are three very very helpful chapters. Anybody else okay. Let's stick with roma's nine looking down now through Thirty thirty three. He asked this question. What should we see that. The gentiles who followed not after rochester's attained to righteousness even the righteousness. Which is faith but israel following after wall righteousness did not arrive at that long wherefore because they thought it not by faith but as it worked by works they stumbled at the stone of stumbling even as it is written behold i land zion stone of stumbling and rock of offense and he that believe on him shall not be put to shame. We've seen this question asked by paul on mobile occasions he says what shall we say. Then you think he was confused no. He asked that question to help his readers remember what he said and then to bring a conclusion. You find people today. If you listen to them long enough you will find that. They have specific phrases that they use or wives and husbands. Do this sometimes a wife get certain look or a husband will get a certain look and as soon as they see that look invariably they know or at least they shouldn't are they better know what the other one is trying to communicate and people will sometimes do that speech. If you have a person who begins to slow down or a person who begins to please speed up or person who starts to say Help for some people. That's not a very good sign. I remember a doctor. We had a family doctor and she would say well whatever she went you knew that the next news was probably not going to be very good while the jews were known for seeking god and striving for justification. What about the gentiles. Jus rivera religious now. They didn't always apply things in the right way but they were very religious. What about the gentiles. Though some of them in the pagan temples. But what about gentiles whether or not like a lot of people today go your own way. Do your own thing. You don't have to be religious. You don't have to be spiritual. just do what you want. Well in spite of the gentiles limited interest in justification. Paul says that they again the gentiles. Who were not overly religious oftentimes. What did they obtain whether they attain. What did they get. They got righteousness. Now if you're a jew and you're reading this this is your sunday bobble lesson. Can you imagine how you start feeling about the teacher if he says you're you the gentiles people that you thought were the dog to people that you thought. God didn't like the people that you thought had no hope they got what they got. Righteousness you think your attention would be wrote into the teacher. I think i'd be in my hand. What did you say i'm not. Let's rewind there for a minute. What did you say we're talking really about the. Did you mean the jews. No the teacher says. I mean the gentiles. Well how about that. And then if you're a jew and your thoughtful person you might be saying now teacher. I've got a question if that's what you're saying about the gentiles. Then what about us. What about me. Surely we have it as well. Well that's the million dollar question as you look at what paul has to say here. He asked the question before it gets to the jews. He says how did they accomplish these things. He says the gentiles of pain that righteousness buying fe. Where have we seen faith. Before in the book of romans remember back in chapter one fifteen through seventeen. the just shall live by faith. If you want to be someone who has saved you have to have a faith remember. Hideous faith unto faith is the beginning point. Faith is the middle point. Faith is the ending point. Every single thing related to the christian life can be somehow tied to faith when you pray whether it is praying that you'll find a grocery cart where you're going to the grocery store whether it's praying that you're going to find a parking spot when you get to a place where you need to be. Maybe the doctor's appointment or who knows school. Whatever that is or you're praying that you're going to get to work on time. You're praying that you're going to have a good day. You don't just lobby occurred to god. The chris life says you pray and you pray how you pray in faith you believe in what you're paying for you think that's always how god's people pray i don't think so it that's how god's people always live. I sure hope this works out. I'm really worried. I think it's going to be a disaster. No no. don't be cocky. Don't be overconfident. But it by face. The people of israel the shoes they were also interested in justification but paul says they wanted to find that justification in a different way. How do they try to find justification they followed. Oh yeah you gave the good answer. I was going to build up to it but he says they followed what they followed a law of the word righteousness. Okay well that's what he's describing. That was the mindset of that you. We're going to be right by god. But how are we going to obtain that. Righteousness we're going to. We're going to all these works and because we will have done all these works. God will save us. Is that thinking current in today's world. Absolutely that is the current mindset of probably most religious people who believe in the one true god will. Paul is going to make very clear especially as we get into the next chapter that. That's simply cannot work. You may that acting romans chapter seven verse twelve. Did paul say the right. The wall was righteous. Yes did he say that the law was good. Yeah so the problem was not with a law. The problem was with the people remember. Could the law lead to justification. Yes bought what was your fire. You had to be perfect obedient to the point where you did not make a single mistake. Well we know from roman street that that's not possible therefore you're going to follow this law of righteousness if you're going to follow this law of works. You're going to fail every single time. And that's what paul says. Romans one that gentiles ruin central to jews. Renson romans chapter three. That everybody was in sin as paul talks about following. He uses the same word to describe. Both jews gentiles and the versus that were just read and he uses that word with the president's so the jews were continuing to follow the system which gave them failure gentiles even though they were not very religious as far as many of them they were able to follow the system of faith that we talked about and they were able to be a right relationship with god. Anything that you wanna address before talking about the jews a bit more all right. Let's think about the jews. He says these jews when they failed.
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"But one move over to romans chapter nine. In just a moment will read romans chapter nine versus twenty two through twenty six. This brings us down to the latter part of romans. Nine as who said multiple times romans nine romans. Ken romans eleven not the easiest material in the world. Be some things in romans chapter ten. It'll be a lot easier than we'll get into that eleventh chapter where things once again become a little more difficult and then we'll get into romans twelve and thirteen and fourteen information which will once again be in the This is typical fair. As far as just general bible study but picking up with almost nine twenty two. Paul asked this question he says what if god willing to show his wrath and the make us power known endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted under destruction and that he might make known the riches of his glory up on vessels of mercy which he afford prepared under glory. Twenty four even us who also called not from the jews only but also from the gentiles and he also at hosada. I will call that my people which was not my people and her beloved that was not beloved and shelby. That in the place where it was. Senator them you're not my people there. There should be called sons of the living god. There's a lot there but she moved down to versus twenty five and twenty six kind of get a pretty good sense as far as what. Paul is doing with his argumentation. He is saying. I want you to especially for the jewish leaders. I want you to understand. It was possible for god to say there are some people who have not been my people in the past. But i'm willing to make the my people in other words it would be like saying we did not permit this in the past. This was not allowed in the past but now things have been changed and now this is going to be allowed. Sometimes people were fine with that. They say that's good are the times people say that's not fair. That's not right. And that's probably how some polls readers were going to respond and you can understand that the hebrews they'd been god's chosen people for a long long time and now if god is saying i'm going to open up the door and jews and gentiles. Everybody can come in. Everybody can be on the same spiritual plane. Everybody is entitled to all the same spiritual blessings as kind of like well. We feel like that's not really fair. Well that is really fair but is sometimes not how people react backing up a little bit in verse twenty. Two paul said that god has seen fit to show his wrath and also to make his power known. If you've been in the previous faisal's we've talked about the fact that god points here and both need to be considered to make a corrective come correct understanding the text. God can do what he wishes right however we say that with an asterik. And what else do we add. God can do what he wants however are he always has to act in a way which is consistent with his nature. God cannot do whatever he wants in the sense that he can say. Well you know. I'm gonna offer salvation and then he's going to withdrawal the offer at the end of time. He cannot do that because that would be a lie. He cannot anything which would be lacking injustice. He cannot do anything Which would be in accordance with the devils will. He is always going to act consistent with his attributes consistent with his divine characteristics and in this particular case. Paul says god enacting with this nature in doing what's right. He's had the opportunity to show his wrath. He still has the opportunity to do that. He has the right to do that. He also has the right to make his power known sometimes got his done that in punishing people when you start looking at the mobile the testament and the new defined cases where god punish people sure. Do you find cases where god punished people with something less than death we do. do we also find cases. Were god punished. Some people with death. Yes do we find some cases. Were god punish people instantaneously. Yes but we find instances where god did not instantly punish the people yes it was delayed so there is a wide range of god's dealings with man you find that there were some people who were blessed sometimes more than others you find people who are sometimes punished or not punish and even today we can look at different people and we can find differences among the unsaved and the same thing about the safe for just a minute. Where do we find. Some distinctions are differences between save people. Okay well i thought the question might not have been word of well so thanks for asking. Let's say that we have one hundred christians. We let them all up. Would you say that. Is you look at those hundred christians as far as the things that they have received. Let's say that they're all fifty years old. Just kind of go through the assuming everybody lives one hundred. Take the middle middle age. They're all right. Would you say at the age of fifty and you could even brought it up to the end of their lives at the age of fifty. Do you think they're going to have received the same thing from god all right. Let's narrow down a little bit. Would you say that all hundred had the same degree health. No might you have some in that group of one hundred who are in pristine health. I mean they've got the body of somebody who's a twenty five year old but my also have within that group some people who have bodies it looks like they're ninety five sure so health will different. Are you going to find. Some people who have differences spars their ability to process information intellect. Would we expect that to different in one hundred people. Yes what about Financial resources we might find some who are from very poor countries and they barely have food clothing and shelter. Here's this guy. He's got three houses and six cars. So it's easy. I think for us sometimes to look at people and we see what we perceived to be inequality and our world is big on that right now she think about what society everybody's got to be equal it. Anybody see the note that i doubt that they would ever do this. But there was some talk apparently in the government as far as going after trust. There's a whole bunch of money in trust for people who have several million dollars thinking that they can go ahead and somehow tap into that and maybe use that to pay down the national debt or use that to redistribute wealth. While there's some people who have that idea that you know if you have more than one you. You somehow need to redistribute.
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"It's no longer circumcision. Now what would you rate it once. More of your abraham seat. If what if you are christ if you belong to jesus christ you are abraham see now folks. There is right there a message that a lot of very smart politicians have never understood they get things all messed up because they have all kinds of religious people telling them all kinds of wacky things but it is right there in the bible if you wanna know what true abraham acc- lineages if you want to know what it really means to be a child of god titan with true israel than you need to be someone who is simply christian anything you want to rick words for saying he was jud beginning absolutely makes. Yeah he had the backup and when he's telling. These people is kind of like the person who is telling you diet if he's or she is very thin and never had to go through that. You're probably thinking well you just. Can't i appreciate what i'm telling you or physical therapy or whatever it is but if it's the person who has dropped two hundred pounds and they're saying look you know. I had to work three years or five years or ten years to drop the weight. You're not have a different appreciation for the person you can say. Well it's going to be a battle for me as well but at least as you're talking to me about this. I know that you have personally made that journey. And that changes things a little bit so it was very very helpful to have paul be from that same mindset in that same background because he.
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"Paul says in galatian. Six in verse sixteen await walk according to what rule. Where are you located. You are located in priced if you want to live in that way if you want to be in christ than what's true more all right. You are the israel of god. Paul redefines israel. As far as who got us. Please with have you were here. Last time we got into almost chapter nine in verse six. I want to highlight that. As far as what we have in the preceding versus paul says in romans nine six but it is not as though the word of god have come to not for they are not all israel that are of israel and there you can begin to see how that relates to relations after six. They're not all of israel. Israel that is just because people are a flesh lead the senate of abraham that does not mean that they are a true child of gop. If you go back and you look at the preceding verses and encouraged you. We went through that highlighted those underlying the things number one paul set other people are going to be adopted as sons. Now if you are at you you have this long rich. History abraham and moses and all the other great things you celebrate the passover because of what had happened with your ancestors and god comes along. This preacher paul comes along and says others are going to be adopted as.