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"roman phifer" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

07:10 min | 8 months ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"Except i'm waiting for you to be there. In december so i can get the backdrop correct with the snow. That's the only issue there. I'll be here with my winter coat. Key no yeah. I know you will. You are a very hard working individual. So what's the latest said. What's the latest and the greatest in new england. Patriot land and mack. Jones is now finally got that. W so i guess it would be the monkey off his back well key. Let me start by saying self congratulations on the book coming out today. I'm looking forward to reading it so excited about that. So congrats to you on that. You know here at here in new england. Here's the story. I mean. Max got the first win but you know what the topic of discussion is key is. Why aren't the patriots throwing the ball. More down the field mack jones. Twenty ninth of thirty three qualified passers in terms of average air yards per attempt. So it's almost like one of those things you get the win but we're sort of looking for the next thing and are they holding things back with mac. A lot of screen passes a lot of short passes. And i think what we're seeing. He sort of learning on the job and they're sorta going conservatively with him in this last game. It's like almost like before you can learn to win. You have to learn how not to lose which i think we saw. That's the way sort of zach wilson. The jets quarterback played four interceptions. So how far am i off. When i look back at the early stages of tom. Brady's new england career. The first couple years of super bowls is very you mitchen. The the smoke emirs is what i like to call it. When you protect a quarterback you throw a double past. He throws it to the tie in for a gain of fifty yards so it becomes almost deceiving to the defense some of the things that they did early in tom's career before he became the go jacket. Tom brady key. I think you're right on the money with the fat know you think back to that two thousand one patriots team. That was really a team that was led by its defense pro. Football hall of famer tyler. The cornerback other guys mike. Vrabel a tedy bruschi roman phifer the linebacker. I mean i could go on and on willie mcginest. That was a team that was led by the defense the offense and special teams complemented what they were doing. And i think one of the things the patriots really like about mac is. He's not trying to do too much. He's playing within the structure of the offense and he's allowing the offense to complement a defense that they think is going to be pretty good and special teams units which they feel like are going to be pretty good as well. Mike one of the things. I'm going to be talking about on this just in kiev. I don't know if you've heard about a great new show at two pm on espn. Today is the pats game with the saints because to me. That's a big test game for bellichik in the post brady era right. A one point loss to the dolphins followed by a win against a rookie quarterback. Now you've got a team that hasn't had a home game was dealing with covert and the coaching staff. That's just type of game that the pats over the last twenty years. Make sure to win. Come hell or high water right but now they got the rookie quarterback themselves. Do they win. That's a big game. It huge game max. I agree with you. It is a great show at two o'clock on. Espn that you have there. Here's another thing i would add onto that max. Why is it even more so a big game all the things you mentioned. And how about this the week after that tom. Brady's is coming to town with the tampa bay buccaneers. I don't think you want to be one and two as you enter that game. So i think that adds to your thought as to why this is a sneaky big game for the patriot out of my notes on this. Just this just in the agenda today took it right off the notes. Excellent my my. I'm curious of you're redoing the draft. We have people saying that you know. Some people said they would take mack jones first draft. Where do you think we are. Redoing the draft today the way mack jones has played. Where do you think he ends up. What spot you know. What jay i think it would still be the patriots and i actually think this is such a fascinating topic to me because it ties to brady back in when he came out in two thousand. I just think it's a perfect match between mac and the patriots offensive system. I'm not sure if matt goes to. Let's say the jets number two that we would see the same mac that we've seen the last two weeks the way the patriots play on offense where setting protection at you. Know the line of scrimmage it's empty formations. it's puts a lot on the quarterback from processing and mental standpoint. I mac is just so perfectly suited for this offense and i. I'm not sure he would be a perfect fit for other offenses. That don't do the same thing. So fifteen where. The patriots were sitting. I truly believe this. Jake if we were to do it again i think he'd probably be the same spot the same pick if we had a redraft. My we've said at home you've covered. You've tom brady for however many twenty years or whatever it was when he was in new england but we sit at home. You me everybody else and we see the same story the same move up. Well damn okay. They just left him a minute left on the clock here. He's going to let me know when they kicked the field. Goal scored a touchdown. Because i'm going outside to have a cigarette right now when you look at he right now at forty four years old doing sort of stuff that he's doing could it be that he really is. The favourite is the mvp right. Now how could he not be. I mean and i look at him and i watched the first two games and i said to myself if you told me he was twenty four or even thirty four i would say yeah. That looks like he might even be better. Then he was at those ages and i think that's what to me is so remarkable about him is is he just keeps fighting back. Father time. I think the rules help him a little bit in terms of how they protect the quarterbacks but that being said that's not at all diminish the i know how much work he puts in from having been around for two decades here in new england key to me. That's a top choice right now for. Mvp let me ask you this. Mike before i let you go did did the new england patriots in new england misjudge where brady was at in his career at that moment that they made some decisions to part ways. I think you could make the case. They did key at the same time. Just being around here. I do believe there was a thought that it had just run. Its course that it was more about twenty years together is a long time and maybe a fresh start is good for both sides and i think it was more that than misjudging where he was physically mentally or where the end of the road was for him. That's the sense. I get when i talked to people around that situation. Just the idea that. Hey we've taken this as far as we can take it. It's time for a fresh start my rate stuff. We're going to talk to you next.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

06:37 min | 8 months ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

"It's perfect except i'm waiting for you to be there. In december so i can get the backdrop correct with the snow. That's the only issue there. I'll be here with my winter coat. Key no yeah. I know you will. You are a very hard working individual. So what's the latest said. What's the latest and the greatest in new england. Patriot land and mack. Jones is now finally got that. W so i guess it would be the monkey off his back well key. Let me start by saying self congratulations on the book coming out today. I'm looking forward to reading it so excited about that. So congrats to you on that. You know here at here in new england. Here's the story. I mean. Max got the first win but you know what the topic of discussion is key is. Why aren't the patriots throwing the ball. More down the field mack jones. Twenty ninth of thirty three qualified passers in terms of average air yards per attempt. So it's almost like one of those things you get the win but we're sort of looking for the next thing and are they holding things back with mac. A lot of screen passes a lot of short passes. And i think what we're seeing. He sort of learning on the job and they're sorta going conservatively with him in this last game. It's like almost like before you can learn to win. You have to learn how not to lose which i think we saw. That's the way sort of zach wilson. The jets quarterback played four interceptions. So how far am i off. When i look back at the early stages of tom. Brady's new england career. The first couple years of super bowls is very you mitchen. The the smoke emirs is what i like to call it. When you protect a quarterback you throw a double past. He throws it to the tie in for a gain of fifty yards so it becomes almost deceiving to the defense some of the things that they did early in tom's career before he became the go jacket. Tom brady key. I think you're right on the money with the fat. You think back to that two thousand one patriots team. That was really a team that was led by its defense pro. Football hall of famer tyler. The cornerback other guys mike. Vrabel a tedy bruschi roman phifer the linebacker. I mean i could go on and on willie mcginest. That was a team that was led by the defense the offense and special teams complemented what they were doing. And i think one of the things the patriots really like about mac is. He's not trying to do too much. He's playing within the structure of the offense and he's allowing the offense to complement a defense that they think is going to be pretty good and special teams units which they feel like are going to be pretty good as well. Mike one of the things. I'm going to be talking about on this just in kiev. I don't know if you've heard about a great new show at two pm on espn. Today is the pats game with the saints because to me. That's a big test game for bellichik in the post brady era right. A one point loss to the dolphins followed by a win against a rookie quarterback. Now you've got a team that hasn't had a home game was dealing with covert and the coaching staff. That's just type of game that the pats over the last twenty years. Make sure to win. Come hell or high water right but now they got the rookie quarterback themselves. Do they win. That's a big game. It huge game max. I agree with you. It is a great show at two o'clock on. Espn that you have there. Here's another thing i would add onto that. Y is it even more so a big game all the things you mentioned and how about this. The week after that. Tom brady is coming to town with the tampa bay buccaneers. I don't think you want to be one and two as you enter that game. So i think that adds to your thought as to why this is a sneaky big game for the patriot out of my notes on this. Just this just in the agenda today took it right off the notes. Excellent my my. I'm curious of you're redoing the draft. We have people saying that you know some people said they would take mack. Jones first draft of where. Where do you think we are. Redoing the draft today the way mack jones has played. Where do you think he ends up. What spot you know. What jay i think it would still be the patriots and i actually think this is such a fascinating topic to me because it ties to brady back in when he came out in two thousand. I just think it's a perfect match between mac and the patriots offensive system. I'm not sure if matt goes to. Let's say the jets number two that we would see the same mac that we've seen the last two weeks the way the patriots play on offense where setting protection at you. Know the line of scrimmage it's empty formations. it's puts a lot on the quarterback from processing and mental standpoint. I mac is just so perfectly suited for this offense and i. I'm not sure he would be a perfect fit for other offenses. That don't do the same thing. So fifteen where. The patriots were sitting. I truly believe this. Jake if we were to do it again i think he'd probably be the same spot the same pick if we had a redraft. My we've said at home you've covered. You've tom brady for however many twenty years or whatever it was when he was in new england but we sit at home. You me everybody else and we see the same story the same move up. Well damn okay. They just left him a minute left on the clock here. He's going to let me know when they kicked the field. Goal scored a touchdown. Because i'm going outside to have a cigarette right now when you look at he right now at forty four years old doing sort of stuff that he's doing could it be that he really is. The favourite is the mvp right. Now how could he not be. I mean and i look at him and i watched the first two games and i said to myself if you told me he was twenty four or even thirty four i would say yeah. That looks like he might even be better. Then he was at those ages and i think that's what to me is so remarkable about him is is he just keeps fighting back. Father time. I think the rules help him a little bit in terms of how they protect the quarterbacks but that being said that's not at all diminish the i know how much work he puts in from having been around for two decades here in new england key to me. That's a top choice right now for. Mvp let me ask you this. Mike before i let you go did did the new england patriots in new england misjudge where brady was at in his career at that moment that they made some decisions to part ways. I think you could make the case..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

08:37 min | 1 year ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"To lank another man black. And and he said one week in this league has nothing to do with the next and they went out and won forty four to thirteen. You, know Brady Brady have huge numbers but Anton Smith. Ninety something yards. They had a couple of interceptions for touchdowns. Pylon had one or Smith. Had One didn't Brian Cox set the tone in that game with a hit on whoever that wide receiver was. One of the colts wide receivers early. And Trump Ethan. Slip through my notes. Who? Say. Yeah. Through what I said but slower. Brian. Got Me. Back. To their second. Wifi. That's a whole lot better. No, well, we lost I still see you. Know you back. Can you hear us? We, got you. Yeah still there see you I just can't hear you oh really. Volume. Hello Hey. We did hear you. But you can't hear us. You got. Yeah Sorry about that. Drone payphone. and. And you know but those guys really kind of carry the torch a little bit that season and brought Roman Phifer. You couldn't have a better guy in the locker room when Roman holiday. And when you added those guys to Troy browns and the you know the Tedy Bruschi and Ted Johnson's that already in the room. I think that that made all the difference in the world and then. Getting everybody to buy into the whole team concept and get leave the egos at the door. You know made a big difference as well. So you know, I, I just think that when you talk about coach parcells, those guys may impact, but it was later on took some time. It wasn't like when coach parcells left. You know that culture change didn't stay Pete Carroll. Brought his own culture. And so and at that time, it didn't work and there was a number of reasons for that. But so you know I I think that people that say coach parcells in our hall of fame is a no brainer I don't agree with that I. Think it's a great debate I think it would be a great induction ceremony. Don't get me wrong. But I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy. He's a pro football hall of Famer Hands Down. Yes. Not Off And and some of the debates we've had in the room center around a guys. Amount of time with the team. So Curtis Martin three years. Randy Moss three years. Even Rodney, came up because Ronnie I think was here for six pretty was injured for a couple of those so. But no one seems to really be bothered by the fact that parcells was only here for four. So you know I guess it's a great debate I. Don't think it's a no brainer by any stretch. I can't argue with people that say he changed the culture brought credibility to the team. He did those things absolutely. But I, don't think it lingered when he left. So I don't now I think people tried to argue is that you know bill belichick wouldn't be Bill parcells. And there's definitely some truth to that. You know built Bill Belichick was introduced to Robert Kraft Nineteen ninety-six. And so. Maybe, Bill Belichick is in here if it wasn't the bill parcells. Don't fall into the camp that bill parcells deserves any credit. What Bill Belichick is down here? Oh Yeah. That's my two cents on net. How? That toe, the line, enough? I mean, I wasn't I think it would be great if it would be great ceremony for sure. I, just think. It's a great debate. I don't think it's a no grande is my point. I think in the same boat so Steve's a hard. No, I'm I'm in the middle with brise must be Greg's. I think it's a very polarizing. You. Know a debate and there are people that. Think. CIANCI. No there's no all of fame without him in it, and then there are people that do not forgive the way he left I mean he didn't file in what the teams from the Super Bowl. I think again, piece of the puzzle like I'm argued I've argued actually in the meetings. Will. We need this consider Chuck Fairbanks because he was built ourselves before bill parcells here. Downtrodden Franchising the early seventies and drafted multiple Patriots Hall of famers including to pro football, famous John, Hannah and Mike Haynes. Now let's family Morgan's feed. Nelson Steve Grogan. Number guys through that. Through that period, the seventies I mean Daryl thinly who obviously is in the hall of fame in his career was cut short but peak rock tim socks Fan Cunningham. He that seventy six team on the cusp of championship when they got screwed by Ben, dry on a phantom roughing the past a call they were the only team to beat Oakland that year and they hammered Oakland in the regular season. Oakland. Went on to win the Super Bowl. And the Patriots left with a bitter taste took twenty five years. Old. And then the seventy eight team was the first team to win the division bought. Fairbanks. Left under a similar cloud of controversy. A college job I think at the University of Oklahoma and. Solvent got wind of it going into their final game in Miami and. I guess suspended him would be the right word for the final game and the coordinators coach Game in Miami. They reinstated him for the playoff game against Houston. They got buried by the oilers and and then he was gone. And so there was a similar controversy around his departure and again I think that's a piece of the puzzle. That doesn't sound as much like him as maybe the way parcells though. I'd almost sounds like ownership. Yeah listen I think that that. That, parcells. For this way I know that when ourselves when when parcells was hired before craft team. When Robert bought the team, one of his first calls came from coach parcel stained. He was thinking about leaving. So I think it was it was always a year year thing and I think his career bears that out like he left went to the jet short-term meant the cowboys short-term then he was with the dolphins for a little bit right or vice versa on the dolphins and counting. So he kind of jumped around a little bit and but I think he was just I. think that phone call was probably made to feel out ownership. But you know Robert gave him what he wide you mean signed David Meggett to a good sized contracts. They traded irving. FRYAR. They signed Bob Trach in and Roberts, the other offensive lineman coach with giants I mean he was doing what parcells Warren Do, and then over time I think you know I'm sure both sides would would admit to making mistakes in that relationship but I think the trust between the two eroded. Led to kind of a bitter break. and. You know that sort of thing happens especially in business but. I think a lot of businesses don't have fans attached to the outcomes of those situations. Yeah. We find yourself in having these conversations about football when you wouldn't about Web Development for instance or marketing or. Whatever it is a greg does. Agnes even now, Greg Dusk. Whatever. It is in the hall of fame of..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

05:13 min | 1 year ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Feel like we've talked I. Think the best was Charlie Weis his play calling. Especially in the first half he added is calling a great game. Dave announcers, they they like the Defense Silica boxer on his heels, not knowing where it's come from like the. Second for. was like not all news he'll. But Dana Grandma right behind was hoping everybody because. Yes was it was literally just nothing but quick passes which was to slow down on the defensive line basically. It's just like an out there cadence and the there's cut everybody off balance those really play Khan, and then the worst was Tau the Vikings US Randy Moss like I don't think he got one outside of that terrible throw by culpepper they didn't take single deep shot with Randy right which I don't care for your stomach covered. Throw it up there. Brady's done a bunch of third down. Interception, it's a pick you know. It'll be a upon. All right my best was. Tom Brady on. I think it was in the second quarter after Bennett fumbled. The Patriots got the ball inside their own ten yard line. As third and seven. And the pages kind of like need to get out of their own end. Because at this point the. Vikings kind of starting to drive. So. Brady does is he? Runs the hard count which draws the defensive line offsides. So then he knows he's got a free place who takes a deep shot, which then draws pass interference and they got the ball like the forty yard line they're out of danger. And this is like year to Tom Brady like that's fucking. That's a veteran share right there. That was awesome. We're talking about Richard Seymour Block and field goals is great Roman Phifer I think. We haven't talked enough about him this year he's he's still been one of the bright spots on. The defensive like. Upfront there that front seven. And he actually forced to of the fumbles in this first half. You Force the. Was the Bennett Fumble and the Moss fumble both caused by him. That's all. He has to. Yeah. He's the guy that like never misses a tackle always wear needs to be always around the ball doing.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

05:07 min | 1 year ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Roman Phifer hit right like all of these guys who are. who were supposed to be just like kind of like roll guys. Played, out of their minds. Migrating say it seems same. Did their job is what you're saying? You could say that but it was more than just doing their job like they actually like killed it. They did their job well. Yeah. Yes, starting defensive end but the problem is like guys. Know about don't read the book India I don't. God I'm not GonNa get secondhand loser from you listen asshole you are the second hand loser. To that on my own Help to be a loser. Thank you very much. But busy as the gist of it is soil fucking read. Is that guys like Anthony Pleasant Bobby Hamilton that they brought in One Year stopgaps in killed it into one. Right at this point, we're kind of over the hill. and. Then the guys that they brought in this year that tried to use as the guys like that like Victor Green, they realized not so great and there's a story about They brought. Steve. Martin who was supposed to be I think. Exactly that. Among other things also. Tackle, but he was supposed to be like that run stopping space eating Vince fork type A guy in the middle, Yup. And apparently he was. So. Bad. That they. Like his technique was so bad, the bell check would put people like Bobby Hamilton and who was forty pounds lighter than him to show him. The correct way to do things guy still couldn't figure it out. And so he got cut halfway through the season which I think is probably why the beginning of the season us all those two hundred yard games 'cause that guy couldn't get schick and so it just kinda showed. The like how on the edge the Patriots were in these first few seasons. And the fact that they wanted two thousand and one was basically almost a fluke. Even. Though Bell Jack was building that system which eventually turn into like Oh three, hundred four we'll see in the next twenty years right. But at that time winning two one was just like. Blind luck almost. I think that can happen. Right The giants Joe Flacco? Shit like that. That's true. Part of it's luck. Yeah, I think so. But I think. The difference between them and his team is that..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

02:22 min | 1 year ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Years closely at nine interceptions. It's kind of a finicky staff for quarterbacks anyways true and they did two years in Kansas, city, another year and. The jets apparently finished in. Oh, nine with the broncos. Played seventy remember that at all. Again like one or two picks, right One interception. Yup. So but I think The thing that ease that for me. Was the fact that Durrell rebus. Has a super bowl. Ring. With New England patriots. The it's pretty hilarious. That's their Taiwan basically, right? Yeah. Yeah. and. The difference being that Tyler wants three here. Yes. Lent dare like a mediocre team and then read it's like could never get over the hump. Their comes here immediately wins the superbowl. And goes back. But then the jets pay him not ridiculous contract right which hamstring them because he didn't really play anything like the directory of that you've seen in the past and they're also terrible team didn't have anything around the build on your that that organizations dumpster fire some other big names that apply on both teams. Boy Brian. Cox. for the pats and then was linebacker coach for the jets and been play for both teams but. You. Kind of did and also our friend match Adam. Lind pages and then of eventually. Went and played for the jets under Brian Cox who was his linebacker coach? Oh. Some other names kind of went the other way and were instrumental to these early patients defenses, Roman Phifer. Anthony Pleasant and Victor Green who've seen victor. Greenlaw. This season actually. especially his. What eighty ninety yard interception return for a touchdown in the blow against the jets early, the season's the jets. Left the. PRI. Bad Terms Vinny testaverde another big name. Vinnie. and. Our Boy Danny Woodhead who? I kind of forgotten this story till you brought it up the other day. Were Danny woodhead was the darling of hard knocks. The jets were right. Everybody loves them. And then for whatever reason, the jets cut him..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

07:58 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"What's the alternative right? The you just roll with a rookie quarterback I guess you could say. I don't think money's the reason inside Brady because a lot of that dead money is him anyways. Isn't it? The tackle, so it's like the alternatives are overspend for the Teddy Bridgewater is the world or On Newton I don't care what the salary gap is GimMe Newton, you know. That's a no brainer to I. mean even if it was just football, never mind what you're paying of I'll take Newton over bridgewater. I. Mean this is Great. This is great money management. Wow, so it's genius by Bella. Track I think it is yeah as far as I can. How can you say it's like anything? But you know like you got the possibility. That turns into a super bowl contender with the downside of. Nothing really. Million Dollars Yeah, and then you you're out of. Like. that. Stood could. Be legit. And beat out! Cam Newton for the starting job, and then be your. Starter for however many years. You know because he's the young guy installs ready contract. You can especially. If next year stadiums, they get the answer you still on his sub million dollar contract, and you have like Steve, said eighty something million dollars cap, space. WHAT THE FUCK Well so then I have a question for a d think ballot check is good at these. Like, not damaged goods necessarily, but like formerly. Like really highly value players bringing them in at A. At a bargain, would you say he's good at it or bad? At least I'd say he's. He's better than the average. He's had hits, MRS I'd say he's hit on more of the. Are they great imple- Five on the radar is Calvin Oi. No Like a second round, pick by the lions, so it's like might as well be a first rounder almost. They just could not utilizing trade like a seventh router forum and then turned into the awesome. That will our pockets that we've been talking about the Mike rebels exactly the same. Counter counterpoint Barky views MINGO. Hundred percent right. Yeah, and that's that's ultimately what it is right is. There's no downside to these moods where he brings these these guys and everyone talks. Like Oh, it brings in these veterans that are. You don't really remember the Mrs because they don't matter. It's not like they sink the team where your salary, but there's tons of them. You look through some of the names that have played team. You're like should have. Reggie Wayne Joey Galloway. Cinco you know like all these. Anthony. Hanes worth marines or it. Can Bring. We've missed on a ton of them, but it doesn't matter because you hit on Corey Dillon, Randy Moss Ryanair Center. Legally blind like. Twice. All you need to do really hit on a few of them and it's A. It's a successful strategy so I. Think we're. Can come is like the media circus that surrounds it. Cam doesn't come without. We very made some about his. Style dress? And help fence, and all that and there's a there's a fair bit of criticism. We talked about before about Cameron. T. Bo is a great example like that guy is just traveling media. Circus of Cinco Albert Hanes worth there the same way so. Raise the risk in that for other teens, but less so for the Patriots seem, and I think part of that, too is they're perfectly willing to just like? Cut ties with that. Robert. Handsworth, there were like this isn't working out. See later. As Pastor. Yeah exactly Antonio Brown! You know they just. They're not going to hang onto late to it. You know they just like. Here's a controversy to because they've. They've usually sign them for these. Incentive Laden contract it doesn't. there. There's never been one of those where they've cut the guy, and it's really come back to bite them. In terms of contract like the closest one I can think of Antonio Brown and I've felt that one to me. Elliot's Thomas was. Probably. Yeah, that's true. But I mean at least. A couple of years. Right. Which Poe made. It made me think they would've caught him sooner. He wasn't make that's policy was alright, Don he? He made some yeah. He's just, but that was the whole. Emmy retired after he got injured and I think that was that whole like two, thousand, eight, two, thousand, nine, where? Bell check felt like he lost the team. Right wasn't that was our own nine with the fourth and to game? And the rainy Ma Shona blatantly everybody showing up late to the. Two meetings because it's not some bullshit. Around then! Yes, I don't think it was as much as it was. Dylan Thomas it was just kind of like a whole clubhouse thing. But I think Adele Song is probably played into he now we're talking about Roman, Phifer being wicked, awesome and that we forget that. They brought him on in veteran's minimum, right. That's crazy. I. It was still like fairly bait. To get that out of what we've seen him do back in the one Oh do like that is insane production for veterans minimum right. But this is and I think part of it is. That the Patriots have a system and so that they know what they need to fit into that system kind of player. They need, so they can go and look at somebody. Who might not be getting attention from? All the other teams in the league like somebody. Like a Roman Phifer and so you know what we need or even my variables like we need this. Kind of Combo Edge Guy who's. Too Big to be alignment a linebacker, but too small to be defensive, and we need him to be able to set the edge sort of thing, and that's all. We're GONNA. Ask Him to do and as long as you can do that. The system will will fit him in and it will. He will be bigger than the SOLVIT. It's parts because he's doing only what we ask them as doing his job. Yeah exactly and the pages have gotten this. That part of it down to it feels like a science. that. I mean you look at drafting? You have no idea who they gonNA pick because. They don't seem to grade players the same way that other teams do. I think like the only real blindspot. It feels like the Patriots personnel has for some reason it just doesn't translate to them for whatever reason I'll Tom Brady's fault. You know now cam in here. It'll be no problem. Kill. Harry's the happiest Person Team Right now. I mean if you look at the receivers. He had when they went to the. Super Bowl. Laris Yeah. Well, I mean. I was hearing a lot of. Launches was probably their leading receiver. Yeah. We went through it when we talked to bobby last season. They were Ted game. philly grills leading receiver Yep Philly Brown, then a couple of guys that even. Even bobby hadn't heard of. Knock, Great But I was also. That's part of.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

02:55 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Stuff but. Ten years. Did. He play where you go to the saints. DENVER. DENVER, that's what it was hit. Watching. Yeah, yeah, what sounds good? One of these new graphics will be a good. Watching could he was a specimen coming out of college? I thought he was going to be I thought he was going to be. When I remember when we I think it was what Gaza and four when we drafted Watson. I thought he was going to be dominant. You so fast. He was kind of like. He's the one that ran down champion for Vernon. Yeah he did run. That was an incredible. That's. I'll never forget that by. Yeah no, it's Brenda rated speed of underrated. We talk about this fourth quarter. Fourth quarters under rated by the way it's overrated. Because this point, it's thirty seven Patriots. steelers have given up literally. What this has my best play in this? Does it yes. Okay! Let's hear. It actually didn't count. Going to be my best actually, my boy Roman Phifer. Willie, the other Willie mcginest. Wrecking plays. Bodies Kordell Stewart CINK. Kordell Stewart Rolls Out and decides to pump fake. To give themselves some more time and Willie mcginest doesn't take that Bait. And just lights him the fuck. Perfectly clean tackle and like interview. It wasn't a fumble right. Cordell Kinda held it until. Metal at the grand growl immediately shot out. So look like fumble in real time. So. Yeah Roman Phifer returned it to the house right yeah. But if you watch the replay of that. Willie mcginest gets up to go to recover the fumble and I think realizes that Pfeiffer is probably has the better angle, so he peels off blocks. Whoever the running back or the? Of the steelers running after. Yeah and that's what sprung in for the touchdown, but like you said it, it got overturned. The lady absolutely bodied him. It was that that was he really mcginest and ended up at thirty eight. We scored. We should another six seven on top of that yeah yeah. But yeah. It did also set up a third and thirty four which the steelers couldn't. Convert after this look. So Good Oh yeah underrated. A great name to. Pifer yeah. Also, way late in this when they're scraping for content. They cut to this guy in the Patriots booth called Bucko Kilroy. Which?.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

05:10 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Our Boy Antoine Antoine Harris Baby. Shout out the most underrated. MVP candidate on this team. As made a couple of big plays lately. He's lot better than terrance shaw. Weeks well got injured. Right didn't shock. It injured on that Roman Phifer hit in the first quarter. Out there, someone I don't remember who it impressionist Shaw? But, they're only playing. All these guys are going with that five. DB Yeah Oh my God. There's a stat here somewhere. Where is it? So the Patriots defense tonight. This is halfway through the third quarter. How many times they've played. Different amounts of defensive backs on the field. Though. Your normal four defensive backs two cornerbacks to safeties. They did that twelve times five defensive backs, which is Nichole? Ten Times six defensive backs, which is a dime which you don't see very often. They've done that fifteen times and even rolled out seven defensive backs three times after quarter. Dow was obviously there was just put nothing, but pass offenders out there, and then as soon as somebody catches the ball fucking light them up. And? There are so titan line everywhere. They're jamming every single time. One of my but there was one player I saw it was a screenplay to the tight end or something. Marshall Faulk was lined up in the backfield. He ran kind of like an out. And Willie mcginest. You could tell his assignment. Was Marshall Faulk so he. He saw model for going out, and he just ran straight at to the point where the left tackle like when out to go block them and realize like he couldn't because. He goes running away from, and we'll let me get his. Probably like ten yards in the Backfield, just lit the fuck into Marshall Faulk and knocking like ten yards back and then came back, so you got to do? Now is the game plan and it. It worked only through, but it was like you could just see immediately. He just made a beeline straight to Marshall faulk knocked his ass over and then came back to get to make the plan. was fantastic. Yeah, and I think like. An it's part. Part of the reason is fourteen point spread by that turf makes a huge difference. Dot part of their team nickname for. God's sake so. That this team is bill yeah? This team is built to play on this surface. When patriots are coming off like yeah, coming off two winds to get there, that are like. Log Fast so you can kind of understand where that spread game. Oh, yeah, especially, since late in the Patriots. In in Foxborough on the the non turf, and they still yep look sloppy doing it, but the whole the way at the end problem. I didn't notice like everybody was bleeding, though probably from fall on that TURF OH, yeah! Indoor on it indoor soccer for awhile back in the day. fucking terrible..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

03:28 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"More compact like play games midweek. On, Osha like cut out a week of the season. 'cause they 'cause, there was some automobile show already booked in. In the stadium for that that we Yeah because I remember like right. After nine eleven happened in the in the Boston Globe, there was articles talking about how like even directly after this happened, they were already like NFL was already on the phone with like the people like I. Think the the Metrodome people. superdome rather and. They were like trying to convince them to push the auto show huge. FUCKING SUPER BOWL! Yeah, exactly the beat it. Yield or something like like a few days later and we're talking about this and we're just like so. Yeah, so apparently they They gave them financial considerations, and also they let them run free ads during the Super Bowl. Shit I don't know if it's I cars or the be right. The car manufacturer if you gave me a chance to do a free ad during the Super Bowl. So inappropriate appropriate. Like. Oh, it'd be awful I know that. Moving the cameras I think tone deaf is. We're probably be a good way to describe it. A half your beard shaved. Exactly Brow Wearing A. Thong that that has a elephant trunk on the front, swinging around in circles thirty seconds. Google crazy train thing. There's a blog post by the guy who used to work for the Patriots that did all of this. He said he did it and he ate Yup. Starting to suffer for the yeah, they used to come out to jock jams. Are you ready for this? Ring a bell. Also, did you know that Janet Jackson was supposed to perform halftime. Really. Yeah. Pushed. You to come on. You know that yeah. I don't it's a beautiful day. Had all the name scrolling on the. Middle. You remember that Steve Come on Caesar's trying to be like too cool for pop culture right now. Steamer than Batum taking shit at this point i. just looked up hooted crazy train. You can. I. Mean Imagine if this was. Doing all this America's stuff and then. And then just internally. Attribute. Saluting around them. Ship. Tone deaf. Things? This podcast. Expert this? Quarter. Roman Phifer played safety and laying lumber Larry on the first play. Wanted take absolute shot whether you're planning a big zonal..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

05:56 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Apparently was just me cool. Did Not did not jump to me at all. Now, although we'd have signed Roman Phifer football cards so yeah for the rams, but still. I'd probably still have it somewhere kicking around. Awesome Hell Ya. Roman, favor guy was miss probably worth as much as you fucking pokemon cards dandy. You'll you're POKEMON cards. Bro. Holographic two things. It's worth more than money. That's worth memories. Didn't give that to my nephew. Did. You gave. In CARSO GOOD Can Use them all the memories. And said trade a bad gambler, pretty solid punt return in this up until he fumbled. Let second time so yeah, and that actually leads me. I'M GONNA the? I'm going to save them for you I. Know You're saving I don't know if you do. I'm just GONNA, spoil it right now? Larry Izzo to all regardless to. Watch the Game Andy. You're looking at my fucking notes. On looking at your notes do say. Larry is Oh unsung hero of this game without Larry is Yo. It's attached to fumbles because troy. Brown fumbled to puns and Larry recovered both of them. What out that two of those drives our ended immediately, one of those is the one that leads up to the fourth quarter this one now which? Does somebody want to? Take the reins on this because this is a pretty important drive here, that's all we're going to save. Larry is oh. What else you got! Teams captain. Party this is the. Same for a while this point right Eddie think so. To? Find Him on the list, let's. Now. He's only like. Twenty seven. Four five years yeah yeah. So you've been. Here before. I thought. Yeah with Miami. Special teamer though. This is first on the Patriots. It was yes yes. Megan is Mark Nice of eight years on the Patriots. That's what I want Matthew. Slater is not the slater. Yeah, wouldn't it be sweet to play in like a big game, but not of the pressure of actually having to perform, but just like accidentally fall onto fumbles and be like I contributed. That's always been my dream. That's exactly who I would be to be that guy. I'll the guy that can't blow it, but he can save it. That that role player, who's probably the glue guy on the sidelines to? That's why captain you. Great Locker Room Guy. Maybe not the most skill, but you know yeah I warmed up the closer so good in the bullpen. Yeah I mean just like. But that kind of goes to the point of this bell check system to as he has these guys in there, even in two thousand one, which maybe some. That's a bit luckier this early, but The we also talked like way back in the beginning of this season. How? Ballot check I brought in a teen different free agents, and they were all like tenure veterans. And so guys like is not quite that but I mean he's a veteran..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

05:23 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"There I mean they did have a first round. Gives them from Florida state, but I mean he was. You know they're? They're sprinkled in young guys, but yeah, but I mean the Patriots are kind of a similar story because Bella check had literally they've been talking about all season how they had gone in and brought in like eighteen or twenty veteran free agents, and all of them were like ten plus your vets just to get that that sort of setting the tone of the like what the team's going to be. I mean you could have done that back in the day, but now I feel like a young man's game. Harder faster and just better. You know coming out. You don't have. Two hundred forty pound linebackers are playing three downs nope. Yeah. Exactly. linebackers with their justice off the runs. Combined cocktails of the world right yeah. Bruce. I forgot about. Roman Phifer was on like on your team. You know looking at WHO's at pleasant guy or something else on the deepest ever. Yeah remember play man I'm like Holy Shit and it was like a like a trip back memory lane I know 'cause. I just stayed on I. Honestly Forgot Jerry Rice's even in this game. Oh, man, yeah, I mean they. Get? Yeah they both. Tim Brown both had a thousand each. Only like thirty yards apart in the whole season two. They're both over like eleven hundred yards. Nine touchdowns. Jerry good. Outside of San Fran. Let's just forget about it, Seattle Seahawks, as but he was a beast of the rate of I mean. Look at it. Now like Gujranwala. WanNa. Antonio Brown to be his. Jerry Rice. But. Let's not revisit that last summer debacle, but. We, can all agree on the? Man That was the worst hangover overhead, but no. I mean you had those who receivers Charlie Gardener Guy Like I dunno seventy five catches on the year. James Jet Barely sprinkled in there. Then you have John, Ritchie and are tight. End was a rolling Williams before Doug. All these other guys came around, but I mean John Ritchie was catching bulls out the backfield. That's a big boy. Just the size of the players in these old games as I mean..

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

10:03 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"We ask. I don't remember thank you greg. That's that's important. Yeah I think he. I believe that. Yeah check to see I. Don't I talked about the wind in the game? I never knocked out of field goal. I never heard Russia wants the mouse. Handy yeah a ranked twenty seven their defense twenty nine really so bad. Their defense was twenty-ninth as it came to play in this game. And I I think a lot of it was Matt. Light getting toasted by The the leading the the guy. Who has the most sack Tom Brady in? Nfl history saw the guy on the cover of that program. That I gave to the bills. Fan was really. Yeah this his dense. Both of their rookie seasons not light. Nairn Schobul. Yeah they talked about it being a rookie on rookie match up and shovel absolutely just sell torch. Metlife that the guy call them. No show Schobul admits that never do anything which is crazy because he has the most sacks against Brady and then he went on to tell me that after every rebuilds loss him and his brothers would do a bills burning where they go to their birth. Something Bills Related. Sounds really fun expensive? You've gone through a lot of Shit. Dude yeah but they're probably. I am shit off of the the big thing that you were getting all your jerseys from Sri at builds your expensive not many out there so they might be the way around. Well that's that's fair. They're collecting thought like you're making a whole bunch of a my you. You're not making a shit ton of Jay Riemersma Jerseys. He's still and Mormon Jersey in his closet. His texted him he never burned it. No nothing I guess not and then apparently there is like this hamster thing that sings like a song we look it up on Ebay. He was all excited about it. Bills Related right a Mike. We're going with this. I'm interested in finding out more hamster touchdown song. It'll come up not on my work computer. Thank you very much buffalo over that song. I remember them saying that. Does JAM is Steve. Was that zoo bus. I mean I've always been work stuff. So he's awesome to work kind of bills fan. Izzy have you seen the guy that does like the condiments thank you? Yes yeah eighty off. Your old man is getting like dollar stood St- strangely erotic at something. There's nothing like buffalo so I mean that's that's what losing four straight super bowls those fan base though. I think all speaking away. It's you might do you have any Football an awful boss. That's a good question. I do have three but they're trimming while on this week two. Oh shoot. I'm curious to see if you if you also have some some similar questions because you this you want me to go all right I won so put it in context. He's talking about Malloy. So lawyer Malloy came unimpeded and got a clean shot on the quarterback so football football on our on fought against. I remember the play correctly. Oh you remember it. Yeah Yeah I think you're right this this one sounds familiar And I think if my context is correct what they're talking about is lawyer. Moloi who doesn't normally rush the passer probably came on a blitz Nobody picked him up so he was coming unimpeded which means nobody knows nobody in his way between him and the would've helped if I knew what unimpeded was so he took a shot. Hit The quarterback. Alex Pill Peterson held. Mov- fucking WANNA call them right Pretty hard I guess straight in the chest. If I remember the play correctly I see. He took a bunch of shots in the chest. I don't see how it's not football eating drinking on the sidelines. Mike again lower malloy came unimpeded and got a clean shot on the quarterback. I mean I don't know I'm also maybe emphasizing. Certain words. Weirdly so I don't know if I but they could have been drinking. I Dunno well. Mine's actually similar. Might as well okay. And it's actually not from this game. This is from two days ago on the radio on the guy to work your drink. Winger show play tend to Mike. What do you mean corrupted? I'm wondering aloud you guys. Trey wingo discussing JOE BOROUGHS DRAFT PROSPECTS. And how he played in the National Championship handled the rush. And he said Lee clemson players were blitz lal over the place is Isaiah. Simmons was coming all over the place. Oh I I don't know based on previous weeks I think I have a guess as to what it means ULA tear. It was common all over the place. Yeah that's that's not football. I don't think I don't know what he did was Trey Wingo. Yeah keep that in mind. He's talking nerd. Oh all right okay. Football just some deep sort of stat bullshit right so you guys are saying coming all over. The place is probably Like the lawyer milloy coming unimpeded and that sense oh although blitzing different spots perhaps oh interesting some nerd shit like that 'cause like brexit. It's Trey wingo although tracks of interpreted different ways I guess all in your addled Mind Michael. No no no. I think it's football okay. Knowing trae I think yeah. Pro's Pro Greg. I mean you trick from this game when I heard in the choir pullover roll down driving so I couldn't write it down when I was like actually googled. Podcast I only discussed right down. The precise bats awesome. I love it. I'm at mint. I mean you want to keep doing yours Mike if you could top that all right This one is just an interesting one. I I don't know I don't know what you guys think. Roman phifer another one of those veteran free agents who came over Bella check had a relationship with him. Who'll yeah that kind of sparked the old noggin words? Ambiguous isn't it right and they don't really talk about relationships too much with him. I mean girlfriend. Yeah where they're not as open about these types of things so maybe that's like a little code word in there. I don't know I just thought it was interesting. I mean he had a relationship with him is what the guy said. Now's like Oh that's okay. I mean did. Did they know each other before the Patriots? I'll do I think they did. The wasn't the jets. Oh okay so maybe it could be professional relationship then case if they had worked together before it is ambiguous it is ambiguous and they did say Roman Phifer another one of these veteran free agent so they must have been talking about the jets that I missed that could be. I don't know so that that sets maybe football the maybe pile okay And then finally this was about Larry Centers. I know for sure and it was. He took a dump over the Middle Way. That's football. I thought it was interesting. I mean he was the game plan which I thought was awesome was to limit Larry Centers. The whole back in this game passes right so now you know why right if you don't well. I don't know if he was upset or nervous frustrated but he took a dump over the middle. I mean whatever it is that that's making a statement right. There didn't have an effect in the game arts. They have I ever go with no okay. But I've had many times where I've had to pull off the side of the road. Run to Lord knows where then do some damage in the middle of nowhere? Pu.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

11:17 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"Which I have no clue. Why had that did we dare you? Had A Kelly Holcomb Jersey. Hoping I wasn't one of those bargain bin ones. I'd like and I make sense. Why would be insane as podcast went on? My Neil worst is connor state on kicking a loop back a little bit if you will ask career. Construction going on my worse is connor doing well fuck. He's doing the bathroom or I had my fridge. Door had been opened for too long and it was alerted me that get out of the fridge that asks making fuck out hot pockets over there making a making a chicken burrito with Verde. It's green hot sauce anyways. Thank you congratulations greg. Her for all your staff I know you were Tim Young. I know you were too young to comprehend the Games during the thousand and one but Adam. Venit Terry was automatic. And you never had to worry about them. I haven't been able to trust protest right back. The numbers don't lie. Your brain is not fully developed gear like a fuck instinct you just see one unit the redcowmn. Okay do you know how do you remember? Yes you damn right. It might be do. Remember the Games something you. I never worried about vegetarian from two thousand and one until whenever he left. I Bet I bet these old farts remember that to. You could always count on the terrier of military. Stephen Guesthouse has been missing bunnies. Maybe not the you know it is. Great is percentage is great because we score so often. Then we're in fucking scoring position all the time but he visiting also better at fifty plus dude. Let's be honest all right. Let's let's be honest. Stephen Guess Cassie was great until that year in the playoffs against the broncos where missed that kick and he's never been the same since all right so terry eager to you got. Is it that you that you go out of him the same since no? He was not right after that game. Man I mean look at look at the fucking stats do you. What do you want in their prime? And then a terry gets ASCII pride. Pretty want his middle. It doesn't matter owned my God. Would you hit the forty eight would get hit? The forty eight yard are in the snow. You know he wouldn't give me talking dude one name one big name one big kick. He kicked a fifty three yard. Beat the giants look at. What was that week seven week? Seventeen exactly oh come on. Yeah you you know you know and I remember that game exactly. So that's one. Does we had that kicked in the last three in nearly one ran randy had that long touchdown everyone remembers week. Seventeen and how? It didn't matter though. Not Not that game. Well I remember the other game that you might be alluding to with O B J and oh I'll kick it can't be in the regular season man. There's a big fat no fifty three yard game winner break. Who'S THE BARAK LIQUOR? I believe? It's the one that ballot check recently. Said what's what's his face from the Ravens. I believe John Tucker Mouse Connor. What's your best and worst man all right? So limited to Beth Album being talked about but talk about Mr reliable and plus I you guys. I'm talking about in the past. Two Seasons Games Very pedestrian like maybe seventy eighty yards rushing but he had a fucking knows for the end zone. I think he had two rushing. Tv's in the game My second seventy my seconds as very ambulance McCain's My second best like I already mentioned. Was that fuck massive lawyer Malloy Flock to three try Brown on the front concerns. I know it's you. Don't see your your got suspenders out. On putting their terms like you get like early thousands and stuff That kind Tom Brady just being clearly doesn't person in like two thousand one on his his first year but like those areas. Just my worst might have been Tom Brady plays I think this is probably his worst game. Game Starter One. Man Goes Game was an absolute nightmare. Actually Kinda typical this year. This yeah so you know the two picks and I think he lost fumbles then. He had games where he didn't score touchdowns but he drove him down the field. And so I'm Smith or like your Auto Kevin Faulk or some shit happens but I think he was responsible for free. Terms like in. This game was one of his worst games. Maybe not as worse but I can only be a second words this point. We had one where it was a four game. Maybe a couple of fumbles Yup Yup. That's bad I will. I will say this guy's because we didn't bring it up but I thought it was very cool stat. Sorry Greg jumping in your territory here but it. They were talking about Most consecutive games in a row. I'm with seventy percent. Completion percentage or. Oh Yeah and they put up You know a graphic and Joe Montana had eight games in a row Sammy BAUGH had four Steve. Young four Troy Aikman had four and Brady coming into. This game had four in a row as well. So that's pretty cool. Two thousand one CONRADI. Sure was prolific. Con Brio right and then by the time. I guess so also say we didn't bring up Aaron Shea does I mean he got hurt in the game anyway but Aaron Shea was. Brady's teammate at Michigan did they became very good friends. And then I don't know if you guys know this but this always stuck in my mind. He always greatness and Tom Brady because he was a hard worker. India's humble and he knows he's humble because he wants to ask Brady. What would you do if you became famous and you had millions of dollars Brady said I would buy a new pair of socks every day because I liked that so when we have Tom Brady on this podcast? We're going to ask him. The first question asked him. Do you buy socks everyday. Yeah I think that's pretty good question move isn't it? That's definitely ball movies. I know he's real washer on socks. That's real fucking humble. That's all he wants do. That's a pretty big ask. Luckily loses its novelty after. What like sixty times a week. Maybe two weeks. It's because they're new wines. So that's a poor take from and they still like the first couple times you're wearing. They still feel new you know. And the pre hair three hair plugs. Tom He I think he just had a different mindset. See I I'm glad you brought that up. I mean we definitely That'll be a teaser for future episodes because I've brought up and we've debated when everybody Sold her soul. So is it hair plugs. Or was it a deal with the devil for sure? Dude come on two thousand four or five. He got hair plugs. Yeah and they started to grow in. I would do it to and I might have already. Thank you very much long. Talk longhaired Tom Brady. Where seven my favorite years. And you know. He was only wearing the long hair because he was so happy to even be able to grow long hair after the hair plugs. All right now. He's dying his hair. Look it's fine right. Yeah he's a beautiful man can do what he wants. He's earned it grow up or what yes I I think. That's that's plenty. I hide and what is happening. I just can't believe we've talked much about a random browns game that I didn't even remember happened happened if known as I do. Remember this game actually but Um Salah I do you son of a bitch but connor. If if you're ever back again I mean this noise you're making his fucking amateur hour but otherwise I hear you have a deep dive on. I believe Roman Phifer so that could be for another time. Yes I agree. Yeah we'RE GONNA get into the I two hours at this point should anyway. That's what you said. And then you said you released a two hour episode. I haven't been paying attention but I hear there's a two hour one back in forty five yes I don't. He came on my Ambro. Let me come back. I'll I won't talk as much that's my promise. I didn't know what to do. I had so much I promise you I will have nothing to say next week. I literally used all might cakes. I use all my like. I'm done tap their knowledge. That was it at all right well until then next week. 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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

11:57 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"I mean. They seem defensive end but he didn't feel like a defensive end. How does this still happen where you have like your three main linebackers? And they're all they all have like ten plus tackles in a game. Does that still happen in the NFL or on the peaches? 'cause I'm looking at Roman Phifer Mikey braids and Teddy ice cold and they all had ten plus tackles in this game and its like. Does that even happen in the NFL anymore? When you have three linebackers on a field anymore with how spread and things are like you'll have to and then you'll have like a an extra safety. Come down in the box or something like that. You know like Atra trunks on with a an extra d beyond their Roman Phifer was definitely one of those like hybrid outside linebacker. Like an Elvis. Do More like Duma bill or you know like not a not a traditional linebacker especially in today's Day and age but I'm looking at it right now and it's like Pfeiffer Bruschi in eleven sort of that sort of free hybrid. Yep Yeah I did catch the when. You're talking about underrated players on his defense. They the commentators at one point like all I think. The most underrated players on his defenses. Tedy Bruschi I thought of all the people you can defense. I don't know if he's the one I would've pulled out but maybe he wasn't referencing that he was like a Use a backup before there were injuries so I think he he was under it in two thousand one two thousand one and he probably wasn't underrated underused linebacker on the team. He probably didn't come into his own. You didn't start seeing like tedy. Bruschi throwing up the snowballs during the Snow Game. Like into like the two thousand and three thousand four was two thousand three two thousand four era Tedy. Bruschi wasn't like an everyday starter glow above them on the depth chart until he got. Yeah thought I thought until I'm just looking up right this second statue now. These and ninety nine two thousand both years he had one hundred and eight tackles arts so these I know but I mean that's what I thought too especially the way that we're talking about him about his young up and comer but I mean he'd been on the team since ninety six apparently. Yeah didn't start many games until ninety nine we started. He started fourteen games on then sixteen games year year or the before and this one. That's weird you're right. They were kind of almost like they never discovered them. I mean to be fair the Patriots were obscure anyway so maybe it was just that they were getting a little bit better and they noticed him. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah I mean I will say Tedy Bruschi man. I don't know if there's been another linebacker that just flies around tackler. No tackle usually not tackling. But he's flying offscreen to somewhere and I've never seen anybody else doing like him. I think that's one of my favorite things to to remember from from these teams. Is that that picture of Tedy Bruschi just running at like on a blitz inches running at the guy running back that steps up to to block them. You just lose tries to jump over every time clip in the legs but still just like his body hurdles into the into the quarterback and inches knocks them over like feet fire. Some bullshit all right you guys have two seconds to respond what position where did Tedy Bruschi to go to college? What position did he play Arizona? Yes he he was a tight end though wasn't he? He was the safety. I'm pretty sure don't quote me on that but a- ITS ON AIR ON RECORD. I'm sure he was a safety and Arizona with the point being though he's massively under size he's always just been a fucking bowling ball. Hey apparent six one to forty seven which not huge for I mean. Well I mean nowadays linebacker I think of kind of gotten smaller in general because they have to be quicker but in this two thousand one day and age where everybody was just bigger in general it seems like I mean you look at the tight ends of these games and they all look the same size of Rob Gronkowski. They're just basically an extra hands. Everybody lowered in like just a little bit. Yeah the game wasn't about speed. It was about size. Because didn't them. Then Bob parcels have some common about He he built big teams because as the season goes on fast teams get slower but big teams never get any smaller or something like that also probably get slower so this is true but they started slow so it doesn't matter so closes right the size. The size never changes. I guess that's true. The best part cells quotas about being able to pick the groceries when he went to the cowboys. Like you like. I want to take the groceries and I couldn't. It's like Amen. And that's one thing about bill that's why never leaving the pats. Bill gets to pick the groceries in fucking Robert Kraft signs the checks. Bill builds his fucking like obscure team where people were like. How is this going to work? And it's the same way that this isn't going to really blow your mind. The same way her brooks built the nineteen eighty. Us Olympic team that built the Russia's like how is this going to work? And you gotta you just gotTa Fuck with division. You've gotta fuck with vision and that for you to have a system. Yeah that's I mean. I think that's a surprisingly apt analogy from and what that quote was about You know he parcells upset because he was forced to draft Terry Glenn and speaking of Cherry Glen. This season nicely done a hell of a segue actually finally played in this game The Boston Globe had articles that? We like the whole thing was. Will he actually play or not? 'cause they settled their differences or some bullshit and he was kind of healthy. But did you actually see? They showed the clip of we talked about it last week before about the interview that he gave where he basically said Yeah I'm hurt because I'm not getting paid and I'm not GONNA pay from. I'm going to be hurt. Sort of bullshit right. He said I did want to be part of the Patriots. Yes D I D did. Because we're his outfit on. That was phenomenal. He is style you so had. He had the corn rows. Which I'm assuming we're thing back in two thousand one. I'm just GonNa Guess Stylish Manso ever heard of Alan Iverson. Andy Young Man. I'd say that corn rains where thing back in two thousand and one. I don't I don't follow Alan Iverson's hairstyle career in terms of times when we had one we only had one. That's that's all we ever had. You had the corn rows and then he had those like. I don't even know how you described the sunglasses. Almost like clear reflective sunglasses that were like wraparound sunglasses. Let's honor the dead Terry Glenn and his son have Passed onto the afterlife. Let's looks Not Be too disrespectful. But you're not talking about this in the past but you are correct. What a waste of talent. I'll just dive in right now. Terry Glenn what a fucking waste of talent. He could have been so good. I mean he was good. One is on the field. Yeah you just feel ninety six to ninety eight. He was probably like a top ten wide receiver. He caught ninety balls as a rookie. Yeah one hundred yards. What year was that Kelly Ninety Ninety six. Yeah those are super bowl year right. The first one was. Yeah yes he does. He gave drew bledsoe a weapon. They went to the Super Bowl his his playing style matched up with Jews. Perfectly because drew was so in love with his arm and he just did like the whole he just did. The whole like fucking. Terry's down there somewhere and Terry was like you know the perfect Terry would just be going long and drew would just hit them. But so similar to like Tom Tom Brady and Randy Moss. Or you've seen the. Eli You see like the ally manning beam whereas eyes are closed. And he's throwing the ball and he's like fuck it Ob Yeah Manningham down there somewhere. Exactly Joe flacco jump bulge saying exactly the same idea. Joe FLACCO is best. Play was throw at deep. Get the defense of the past interference. That was by far his best constantly. Oh absolutely or lead bowl like body someone right. Hi Okay so we thirteen thousand. What do you think was the game changing play in this game? I think everyone probably thinks it's the same one but I I have one. That's in mind. I just WanNa hear what other think. Well I'm a Troy Brown stands so I'm going to go with his punt return touchdown and that's the that's the only answer one thing. Well I was going to jump in with a play but the the two minute drill before the half was human drill as well play. So I'll give you that but I I loved watching it. I think it Set the tone for the second half yeah if NFL FILMS. Doing a turning point. I think it could be either of those situation agree. I agree one thing that sticks out to me like that's just a glaring difference between the two thousand and and like today it's football lawyer Malloy. Maybe our best overall player. He had the game changing block. That Free Choi Brown up for that punt return started to start offensive players ban on punt returns anymore. I think that's just like not a thing that happens anymore. Patriots minutes always been like that for them. I think Bill Belichick had had been. I remember seeing something one of those like documentaries of the Banou Abell checkers off season. And they were talking about how he did the same thing in in Cleveland on the browns and had like average top.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

01:41 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast

"That's so bad I love it. I should've should've cut anywhere but north. You're absolutely correct for a second there. I thought you said self cut and I thought that was what I thought know but the guy is trying to make plays so of course every once in a while it's GonNa sail on them or whatever but I mean he was pretty much the only playmate you're on this deal. They had nobody. The there was nothing because I mean even one of those interceptions he hit the Guy Straight in the hands of just bobbled it and it was picked off by which defensive line while pleasant ended up with the interception. It was it. Was Anthony Pleasant. Yeah for probably his only ever interception of his career. I have to guess Stech. There's there's so many there's so many names on this path defense that just God I fucking I love those early teams in turn like Anthony. Pleasant work we'll get to Roman phifer later Maybe the mobile under. Maybe the most underrated Patriots Defensive Player. Like the early two thousand. There's some great. There's some fucking great man Patrick Pass. Who's what our full-back had three tackles in that game. God He must have just been doing work on either kickoff curve punt pass special teams yeah and patching pass again pleasant queer such to allow your sacks.

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"roman phifer" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast

The MMQB NFL Podcast

16:21 min | 2 years ago

"roman phifer" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast

"Actually those are superior nobody can check guy but when it comes to the human being I can. I will say you can be Betty. He can be been dictated. Um He can hold grudges and I just think Malcolm Butler benching in the Super Bowl. It really showed a lot of guys in that locker room and I think cost them alternately. Chance to win the sixers back on now. They've they've won their six two thousand eighteen but in that season. I think that really rub guys the wrong way And so that's just one kind of interesting where it's like. They were sleepwalking. Through the first part of that two thousand eighteen until they've gotta figure it out again but there's one thing it's like you know what bill you know you kind of. Let your your personal stuff in the way of doing what was right for the team when he's always saying what's best for the team so that's. Kinda one day you can look at where I think players are probably like man. It's not it's not working man when we get to this point and you. Kinda deal out And we wind up losing the whole thing where it's like. It's tough for guys to slow that if you're GONNA take below market value deals you're not gonNa be praised that much you're not gonna be you feel like you're going to work you better win a lot burke and you better not of course in a position to win in. La Your personal a intervene in in pettiness intervene and losing some big game so speaking of pettiness personal stuff. Like how much do you think these two guys are motivated by proving and you know both of them how much they're motivated by? Proving it was me you know what I mean the six championships the twenty years of unprecedented success. That was me that wasn't him that was me. Like how much do you think Tom's motivated by that? How much do you think bill's motivated by that? Well I think I think they're both motivated by but I think in particular row ballot check is so ready to prove that he can win without grady. And that's what makes guys like Like our business. I think. That's what makes this whole thing so fascinating. I really think bill wants to show. He can win without Tom. Let's Basit career did not really take off until win. We four of the two thousand one season with Tom Brady started for black. So and then it just you know. It's been an unbelievable and I'm president amount of success in the twenty year window but it didn't start until Tom Brady was his quarterback he's got games. He's won without Com. You Yeah you have back back years after year to year. Winning ultra hasn't been established without Tom. Brady being your quarterback and so I think he is so driven by that piece right there and I think he was really ready to move on from Tom. You can say we made him an offer but you truly didn't make an awful. I think was an honest offer. You knew topping may be open to so to me. He got his desire bag. That was ready to move on so now he can start coaching without. Tom and I proved to everybody that he doesn't need. Tom Brady as his quarterback to win. Football game drew bill. Burr and he is. I mean He. He's smarter spending been around but he's got a big ego and he is driven by that ego and he's got a lot of pride and so this is what he wants and I can't wait to see how it all turns out for like so I I know you like it's hard to separate one from the other. I was thinking like when they rebuilt no nine. And and sort of like the changeover. From the guys you played with like the variables the Harrison's the the laws You KNOW DETROIT. Browns that group to what became. I almost patriots. Two point Oh Gronkowski mccourty like Aaron Hernandez for the Short Time. Like that change over like they never really had to go through a rebuild. Because Tom could still elevate everybody around him right like he could still like. Hey I'll make it work while we're rebuilding this thing. That's really hard to do. It's really really hard to do. So this is GonNa be a tough question. Do you think like if you had to split it up. How much of a do you think of the last twenty years is bill on how much of it is? Brady is even. Is there one more responsible than the other like? How do you look at that? You know I always kind of lean this question more towards bill like I think I'm crazy. I was about check Moore born and Tom Brady. I think so difficult to get by in The players if you're the head coach it's so hard to motivate year after year after year. A lot of the same or guys and get them to buy it. It's just hard to establish the culture of a winning culture like bill has created. I Say I'm always since bill but I'm starting to kind of maybe lead or 'cause a big part of and we've already touched on his wave. Bill was able to create this culture this winning culture. But it's very demanding and no one's getting overpaid and everybody's for the most degree treated the same it all was because Allow him so to be the kind of poster child for that culture and I mean I've been in team meetings. Bill is critical You know it'll allow him to speak. Do that to establish this culture like you mentioned before Tom. Brady's not above getting chewed out. Then we all got to be ready to be chewed out If if we're not doing our job so I'm not almost lean more towards console even when it comes answering that question because they he was almost the poster child or back Holzer embiid building have comedy kind of you know point to the guy if he can take it. We all can then. I'm not so sure that culture is is ingrained and established as much as it was so it's the next year or two. I can't wait to see the buy in from these players without Tom. Being there You Know Kinda guy appoint to lasting on this. Then I'm going to give you a story. Drew Blood so probably. This is probably and I know you good friend of yours. This is probably four years ago now. Three and a half years ago it was on the anniversary of the hit and I remember drew saying to me like that. He thought like his relationship was dead with ballot check and that like he was nervous to go back to. Foxborough and this guy is like a very close at the owner and icon in the area. All that he was afraid to go back to foxborough because he didn't know how bill would react and he didn't go back there. After he retired and in eleven he gets elected to the team hall of fame and so they bring him back for to introduce him and he said he was like almost nervous walking out on the practice field because he knew run into bill and he saw bill and. I think I may have told you this story before but he saw bill and he said Bill couldn't have been warmer and he said bill came up to him asked about his wife asked about his kids asked about his wine and drew said I was shocked. It was like a totally different guy and I wonder about that Ted. 'cause I'm trying to project this forward and look at where the Brady bill check. Relationship will be ten years from now. But I've always struck me as somebody who is just hyper disciplined about separating professional life from his personal life and once you're gone you switch once you're gone as a player you go from being a part of his professional life where he has to treat you one way to being a part of his personal life where he's a totally different guy. Do you buy happens. O'brady oh man that's a great story a highlight I think. What is a clear pattern? Why build our check and that is hey man sorry. They don't like his players. I'm GonNa do you know what I think right or how I WANNA do things. I'll make up with them later. And there's so many samples of that I don't care who it is and Richard Seymour might might Raval Malcolm. Butler had colon the off season after that Beijing. Other ways. Now Bill. Smart to do that because he doesn't want you know there's a lot of players or players know a lot about bill. How he treated treated them things that went on behind closed doors and what about bill is still relevant head coach? Asli. Nobody's GonNa say were little smart to have. I think reconcile. Those guys extended an olive branch. Those guys like you said. He did withdrew And I think more than not more than anything you guys want to be invited behind the velvet rope. They WANNA be part of what's going on. And so they the that trying to response from bill there they they want that you know and so all the stuff that went on in the past. Can All be forgotten? Building doesn't very good job. As much as is is a difficult kind of you know. Task Masquerades play for later in life. He knows is probably his best interest to kind of make amends with these former players Because you know he he actually. He doesn't care about the media but he does he cares about what people are saying about him and how he's being portrayed And he's almost borderline excessive with it and so he's smart to mend fences with both players. They didn't have maybe good relations with so my point is that. Oh Heaven immigrate like that and ten years. Oh Yeah I mean it needs a little bit of time so it. Kinda work its way out and then I guarantee you. He's so skilled and making that connection again with guys. I guarantee he'll do brady and Brady into it absolutely okay. So before. I let you go I because you were down in. Houston you were around. Billy O'Brien yeah. You did have a chance to watch the Andre Hopkins up close for a bunch of years your reaction to what's going on down there and how things have changed over the last year you know. Obviously Jackie Easterby. Now's the executive vice president there. They've traded UW and cloudy. They've traded De'andre Hopkins. They traded four Laremy Tunsil. The face of the team. I mean and this is rare with a guy who was going into what year seven now as a head coach where it almost feels that. They're changing the culture again. You know So like I. I just wonder as somebody who saw everything down there. Like kind of like your reaction to what happened. You know in general and then in particular the deandre Hopkins Trade. I was I was. I was shocked by trade. I did not know that maybe potentially there was You know an issue there between the Andre in the head coach. I I do under Hopkins. I teach about seven years. Or was he kept his mouth shut and he works his ass off and he wound and he produced. Let's the that's all I've ever known beyond Riach now I've been waiting for the last years and things change. You have to success. And he's had then maybe you know maybe he's he's he's not the same guy to deal with any more So when I kind of heard that news I thought Oh boy I thought one thing I I in my mind when I saw and get traded to the Arizona cardinals for a second rounder. Was You might be lose those losing the team they can potentially be losing the team When you when you trade away your your best asset. Not named Shawn Watson Can Really. It can really rock you. And so you don't have the Andrei Hopkins on your side or you don't have to David Clowney on your side and maybe you know on the same page with you as far as the direction of the James Going. There's going to be harder or the other guy now. There's an iconic name still on that team. Jj Watt but he's been injured the last few years Burke and so maybe here's his kind of supportability. Oh doesn't carry the same weight as maybe those other players but That's the first thing I thought of that. There's not I n From his players if getting rid of that kind of caliber player tells me that those who weren't getting along and my feeling is he influences. All the restaurants hockey doesn't so what are you. Maybe on the way out. Or what are you? Maybe better saying about bill. O'brien filters to the rest of the team and so I worry about his. You know his ability to gay guys to play hard form to buy in in in. You know kind of want to back him as the head coach. I'm worried that that might be. I don't know who knows maybe coming to an end. I hope not also like all right last thing because I think that. This part's interesting so like let's say they did that for culture which is what my belief is that they did this like. It's a cultural thing right. And then you see what happened. It was happening in Detroit. Where they're you know they're bringing in Jamie Collins Doron harmon and Danny Shelton in Miami with Brian Floors. They're bringing in. Kyle Van Noy Ted Karras and Landon Roberts even with the giants now. Joe Judge going there. They're bringing in nate abner and Dion Lewis. You're there when bill. I got to New England and he brought in. I believe Brian Cox Anthony Pleasant Roman Phifer. A few guys that have played for him with the jets. Do you think the culture things overdone at all or or trying to replicate. What you had in Foxborough is too difficult to.

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