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Tensions between Barr and House Judiciary Committee come to head in contentious hearing
"The attorney general faced tough questions from Democrats on Capitol Hill from the get go. AH House Judiciary Committee hearing with Attorney General William Barr was confrontational. Democrats accused Bar of doing President Trump's bidding. Lawmakers questioning bar on why the president's ally, Roger Stone's jail sentence was commuted. I agree the president's friends don't deserve special breaks. But they also don't deserve to be treated more harshly. The attorney general was asked if he believed President Trump's suggestion that Democrats were rigging the 2020 election. I have no reason to think it will be. The hours long hearing was initially delayed because Chairman Jerry Nadler was in a car accident on his way to the capital. He said he and his staff are fine. The car is not In
Democrats seek to shame Barr over politics at the Justice Department
"Attorney General William Barr clashed with House Democrats. Of political interference in the Justice Department. Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler in your time in the department, you have aided and abetted the worst failings of the president are defended himself against accusations that he has intervened in high profile cases, including the sentencing of longtime Trump Advisor Roger Stone. The president has not attempted to interfere in these decisions. On the contrary, he has told me from the start. He expects me to exercise my independent judgment and that is precisely what I've done. Theater knee general also defended the decision to send federal agents to several U. S. Cities amid ongoing protests against racial
Barr testifies before House Judiciary Committee
"This morning, Attorney General William Barr testifies and takes questions from members of the House Judiciary Committee Bar is expected to be asked about the prosecution of Michael Flynn. The pardon for Roger Stone. How the Bureau of Prisons has handled the pandemic for prisoners, the use of federal forces in US cities and who made the call to clear Lafayette Square prior to the president's photo op in front of ST John's Episcopal Church
Charlie Kirk: Coronavirus stimulus
"And you have Schumer Pelosi. In Biden one hundred twenty five years, Charlie Kirk of failure, unmitigated failure, swap failure and I. Think of my kids. You met my son. He's twenty one years old. My daughter's eighteen and I would think about your America their America and when I say you know, live free or die, American, the world on the brink I'm not joking. And very specifically will be probably the biggest choice election by far in my lifetime, and maybe since eighteen sixty, and there's a lot at stake We can go through the issues if you want, but it's. It's there's there's not one issue we agree on that. I can think of for the most part yet, and you wrote this, and it just really sent chills down my spine. You wrote this book to sound an alarm as a warning. Warning to my fellow patriots about the left's undying commitment turn America into a land, our parents, founders and framers wouldn't recognize it. It's perfectly put, and that's the direction that they're headed on page twenty seven. You have a great part about how Ben Franklin says we ever republic. If you can keep it, can you talk more about how this truly is? A referendum election in some sense and the left is trying to do to our country. Well the the story about Franklin's interesting, because it's, it's the constitutional convention and somebody says he comes out one days, says, is it a monarchy republic republic? If you can keep it Reagan, I quote him off. When I give speeches, said Freedom Charlie and you know this is but one generation away from extinction. And you know when if you want understand if socialism is adopted if their stated goal is adopted America as we know, it then becomes unrecognizable look, I can understand psychologically. There's a component of maybe people that that have been indoctrinated in schools, and you're great at this because you're going in to hostile environments every day, and you're saying you know what there's another way of thinking here, so maybe the idea that people think Charlie that some things are oh, everything's going to be free and they're gonNA forgive my loans at I'll have a guaranteed government job guaranteed government food. How did obamacare workout now? We're GONNA have Medicare for all or or double down on the stupidity of Obamacare and guaranteed retirement. Guaranteed vacation sounds great. But simple math shows you that you'll never get there. And that's why in the Fourth Chapter of the book did this whole history of socialism which is a history of failure? The point is look at the issues. If if we're talking about law and order. They've cited in Portland in Seattle and new. York and Chicago with the radicals. Joe Biden his yet that I know of said one good thing about the ninety nine percent of cops protect and serve and put their lives on the line for us every day. You're right. Okay, so law and order taxes. He's pledging to raise your taxes through the roof. That will destroy the economy Then they're gonNA just add all the bureaucracy. The Donald Trump spent almost four years. Eliminating that'll be gone. That means nobody's GONNA WANNA DO Business. That's why the Biden Obama economy was so bad. Then you look at where now energy independent for the first time in seventy five years with a number, one producer of energy in the world will lose that for sure We'll shut down coal fracking. Oil Gas exploration production those tens of millions of jobs high paying jobs career jobs for people. Then it's about amnesty. Or the United Sanctuary states of America versus Border Security and law and order of never mind foreign policy. We haven't even touched that part yet, so. There's a lot at stake. If those plans stated plans are implemented. America will go down the past you know. The Trash bin of history as Reagan, said Freedom One generation away from extinction we will. It I shudder to think what will happen the three you and your children by kids, and and maybe one day grandkids. ARE READY FOR THAT And I love the framing, because as the founder said either we're GonNa live free and defendant right now, or we're gonNA. Have a country that you know. We don't WanNa live it, and that's really the framing. That is so important right now, and you talk about and I'm really pleased about this. Shawn because I think we have forgotten about the Russia hoax too quickly in. In the conservative movement, you have been the leader on this every night. You were covering it. You didn't let us forget you help. Muller Accountable, you had investigative journalism and it just seemed that an Oxana names, but other conservatives just kind of drifted away from like Oh. That's what happened happened. You have two chapters on this in the book. Can you talk about that? Yeah I mean I call it Charlie, the the biggest corruption abuse of power scandal in history and the Ukraine was oh. Okay, we failed with Muller after three years. We won't. We won't even bother with a special prosecutor not to I'm going backwards here but to get to Ukraine. You? Know they're talking about quid pro quos, but you have to ignore their presidential candidate on video saying you're not getting a billion US tax payer dollars unless you're fire. That prosecutor is named Shokhin. WHO's investigating my son Hunter who went on a and said? Do you have any experience in oil? No Gas, no energy, nope, any experience in Ukraine. Nope, why are you being paid millions? No, because you dad, so there was a quid pro quo and millions of dollars for the Biden I call crime family. That's exactly right, so. Listen and China's even worse. You get to this whole thing what we now know and I believe what's coming. It's like, and this is where the media's corrupt because. They're just the propaganda wing of all things democratic. Socialist. We now know and have all the evidence that we'd ever need is that they protected their favorite candidate. Hillary Clinton. For things you and I and everybody you know that follows you and you have a massive audience would. Literally never get away with. If you had subpoenaed emails Charlie Kirk and you decided to delete them, and you decided to acid. Wash your hard drive with something. I had never heard about bleeped bleach bit and bust up your devices with hammers. You'd go to jail. If you violated the espionage act, you'd go to jail. They protected her. Then the narrative began we now know began in August. We know crossfire hurricane representatives actually went to brief. President Trump General Flynn. Flynn on national security, but they were there to try and get information on trump and Russia, the most amazing part of this, because the Democrats and the media live for all these years is that they knew and they said and they wrote, and they even testified. There was never any evidence, but there was a dirty Russian dossier. And now we know even the New York Times acknowledged full full of Russian disinformation and that was used. And they were warned not to use it, but high ranking people abusing their power, wanting to take out candidate, trump, transition, team, trump, and then deep into the Presidency Donald Trump. They use the dirty Russian misinformation dossier to ruin Carter pages life and roomed his civil liberties and constitutional rights, but more importantly to spy on candidate trump, and then they had their insurance policy. The fact that the mob in the media ignores it is beyond comprehension. I have so I have two chapters. One is on the Russia hoax, and the other is on this whole impeachment witch hunt. And I want everybody in your audience to understand one thing here if I can get one point across. Yeah, they hate Donald Trump, but they hate us more. They think we are as Peter. Struck, said the smell by the way I probably shop at Walmart say money. Why not you have a woman I love Walmart I love COSCO's. I Love I love it all. And I've shopped there my whole life I mean people always stopped me when I'm in a grocery? So, what are you doing here? Shopping? Wa I like to eat a cracks me up. So but think about that. smelly Walmart Shoppers while irredeemable deplorables, wow! Bitter Americans as Obama said that WANNA cling to their God. I'm guilty their Second Amendment Rights Guilty Bibles and religion I'm guilty of that, too. But. It's contempt for your audience. It's contemporary my audience. It's because they knew better. And they will ling. This was an attempted coup. Now do I think there's going to be arrests and prosecutions I? Do spend much slower than any of us would have liked, but the evidence is overwhelming. It's incontrovertible sad actually that this could happen. That was going to be my follow up. Question Sean because when I travel and we get thousands of e mails a on this topic. When are people going to go to jail? And can you give me insight on this? Can you give us any clues any crumbs that we're starting to see from Durham? It's I call them. It's funny. You say crumbs because call them the the Attorney General Bar breadcrumbs. It's like Hansel and Gretel. Remember. We're we're trying to follow and see the trail exactly yeah. He did say that the president was spied on. It did happen illegally. The. Think about this. If you go before Judge Judy I wouldn't WANNA lot because Judge Judy I. I've met her once she'll eviscerate. You I watched her show. You. Don't go before a court. The information that you have not verified. It actually said at the top of a FISO Warren Charlie. It says verified. Okay. We now know the dossier was unverifiable. The sub source we now know, said this this bar talk. We were making this up. This was never meant for anything and again Hillary paid for it funneled money separate issue. And so, what is going to happen I don't have a crystal ball but I. do know all of the facts that are in the public. Are Enough to indict many of the names that your audience is most familiar with. I would argue. Komi McCabe struck page. I'd like to know a clapper. Brennan's role in all of this ends up being and and others. The more fascinating deep question is. Will they get to that January fifth twenty seventeen meeting inside the Oval Office? This is when member Biden said George Stephanopoulos Oh I. Don't know. Anything about this, you know this whole impeachment Russia thing. He was the one same. Bring up the Logan Act fifteen days later Susan Rice in that meeting did the Cya memo the day that Donald Trump was inaugurated. Obama in that meeting shot Sally Age by saying a He. He knew everything about the Kislyak Michael Flynn call. If we look. To sum it up. I think we're GONNA get there because the evidence. Is that overwhelming? If we don't. I fear for the country? Because of you. GonNa Raid Manafort's home predawn raid and you're going to raid Roger Stone's home. For lying to Congress by the all many of the names I mentioned were referred for the same crime and you're gonNA. Pull it twenty nine guys in tactical gear, frogmen and tip off CNN cameras and. Have a biased jury for person. We won't have equal justice and equal application of our laws, and worse than that Charlie is. We lose our constitution. Yes, all our laws are are predicated on next great document and some `perfect, but it creates the path to perfection at a more perfect union so. Long answers. I'M GONNA talk. Show I love it. No, this is what our audience needs to hear, and and thank you for that and look I I completely agree because if we do not have people and I, say this as carefully as I can in handcuffs for what they did Donald Trump then I I will lose faith in the American justice system I. Don't want that and I don't want revenge I don't retribution I want people to be held accountable and I would want the same if someone did this to Barack Obama because it should never happen to a leader ever. Yes. and. They've gone after every single trump friend confidant, and yet if you oppose Donald Trump you get different treatment, talk a lot about the constitution in your book and the founding of our country, Sean going to be honest, I've been very let down by some of these supreme. Court decisions lately Can you comment on that and the importance to get more people like Kavanagh? Who's actually ruled brilliantly? Unlike John Roberts. I! I'm a little. I don't know what's happening. Roberts I have my theory I guess I have my sources people that. have their own ideas based on some knowledge? For whatever reason and I think this goes back to the obamacare decision. He has allowed. How the court appears to influence his decision making. I also sense with no evidence whatsoever. You're not a big fan of president trump, but that should not come into his thinking. Now. If getting rid of bureaucracy and lowering taxes and energy, independence, and securing our borders, and law and order are all part of this election. Let me tell you another big part of it. And it's you know we're taping this ninety. Whatever days away from the Election Day, I what about and we got asked. What about the Supreme Court? Yes, I go through a whole list I. Forget what paid maybe sixty seven I forget. A. In the book. Of. All the things Democrats would do if they're getting power one, is they? WanNa, stack the courts. Get rid of the Electoral College. And I. What, they're saying they. WanNa do is scary. They used to hide it Charlie. When I every single Liberal Democrat running for office, they would run to the left in the primary. They race back to the center, but you knew they wanted the left. There now openly embracing the most radical elements in the country and you know. Unfortunately we're watching it all. Play out nightly on TV and and that sad what I see happening when I think we have to remind a trump supporters that these are not trump appointed justices, a gorsuch I think ruled incorrectly on one ruling. That's it besides that gorsuch and cavenaugh have been tremendous and terrific verses Roberts. I just think we have to give the audience a sense. Sense of continued conviction that the trump appointed justices will continue to rule correctly and Clarence. Thomas and you know the the Thomas Family. They get no credit at all. I mean what he has done. And can you comment on that? 'cause I, E, you've actually been you open my eyes to that like eight years ago and I never learned about Clarence Thomas as a high schooler until you I mentioned it just as a quick aside on his incredible career. I like to do on TV and antidote on radio, too. Sometimes I call it the Hannity history, lesson 'cause I lived through all of this. I know this is going to see. You're not even thirty three, but my radio journey started in nineteen eighty-seven crazy right. Now on my twenty fifth year of Fox, I didn't think I last two. So I feel very blessed. As a side note if you haven't read my grandfather's son. Which is about Clarence Thomas is life. It's amazing. But. You know it's interesting because him and Scalia. To my opinion, my to most favorite justices in my lifetime. Scalia this incredible wit and genius and understanding and. They got a little acerbic side to when when he was questioning Clarence Thomas always set by quietly. What they called a high tech lynching at the time, the more modern. Let it. You gotTA. Remember Yeah. And you know. It was then Senator Ted Kennedy you know Robert Bork's America the borking of America. That was Clarence Thomas. Now we see it more recently cavenaugh. It exposes. The, who is Joe Biden? Who is his team? Because Clarence Thomas and Justice Scalia or the people we need on that court. We call them constitutionalists or originalists, the original intent, not people that would sight foreign law as liberal justices have done or not people that feel that they can rule by judicial Fiat and dictate or legislate from the bench. Democrats always wanted the court to do that which they could never. Do legislatively or win at the ballot box and that's why they want. We call them. Activists Justices Clarence Thomas. has shown a fidelity to the Constitution at the Antony Scalia. That is beyond enviable And the differences styles always interesting, too because Justice Thomas will always be quiet. That's very few questions. Anthony Scalia was in there in a wrestling with people. I don't know about John Roberts. I can't get into it, but I do believe the next president United States is a very good chance. You have a lot of older justices may want to retire. And I think that the next this election in just three short months. That's on the ballot and that's that's generational now. And Sean I think we have to pressure the Biden campaign to do what trump did and release a list of justices I mean president trump was so transparent and Joe Biden hasn't done it yet. Intentionally, of course, because he'll probably put repeated to lieber something on the United States Supreme Court I mean as horrifying as that might be so in two two quick closing question Sean and thank you for being so generous with your time anchorage, everyone you know. Know go by live, free or die. the first is this. Can you just talk about? We are heading into the election. A lot of trump supporters. They're failed. They're falling victim. They suppression pulse I wish that wasn't the case, but it seems like the memory of two thousand sixteen as faded where people forget. We were down by double digits. Can you just give a little vote of confidence to some of our listeners out there? That think we're just losing. I WANNA. Give the vote of confidence, but I want people to feel this way. I want people to think I'll use a football analogy that our mutual friend Linda that you know. Who's your biggest fan? My radio producer? He's amazing. Amazing, but she doesn't even know how many points you get a touchdown, so I'm giving these football analogies. I, want this election. I want people to feel the way I feel which is. We're on our own twenty. Two minutes to go. We have no time outs We're down by six. We got a cross. The plane marched down the field, cross the plane and hit the extra point to win. So if people feel a sense of genuine urgency and worry and concern, I'm cool with that because fear often as a great motivator, not irrational field fear, but if people do not vote, you will get the government that they're telling you. They're going to give you believe. That that is their agenda. To be a Republican and win. You GotTa always use this analogy got to run the table I gotTA. Get Florida Georgia North Carolina can't win without Ohio. No Republican's ever become president without it right? You got hold Iowa then you got pick off Pennsylvania Wisconsin hopefully Michigan maybe MINNEA- Minnesota will be play. Maybe the city of Arizona will be in play. By Joe Biden reference for those of you. That didn't get. We got a hold Arizona Gopher Nevada New Mexico. New Hampshire and Maine's second congressional district. If every single mom, this is a battle cry. You started out this interview with this. I wrote this book not because I like writing books. My last book I donated every Penny I made to charity I don't care. It's not that. This is a tipping point. Charlie this is I, don't. See if these policies are implemented how America recovers. Irreparable harm the to the rule of law to our courts to our economy, they want to wipe out the lifeblood of of the world's economy. This this promise of socialism and I go into such detail about how it's always failed. Here's a quick socialism of example. Member obamacare. Keep your doctor keep your plan. Save on average twenty five hundred dollars a year per family right? Okay. Millions lost their doctors. Millions lost their plans. We're all paying about two hundred percent more and add to that. Forty percent of Americans almost forty percent have only one obamacare Biden Carriage James Choice now. How did they do with that promise? Medicare is going broke. How did they do it? That promised social security. Charlie hate the break this here. He paying into it. You probably won't get it I. Barely Skate through, and they might give me ten cents until they means tested and then take it back, How does it? How did Liberal government work in New York City with all the anarchy cutting a billion dollars, so please? How's IT WORKING IN CHICAGO? All. These liberal cities have where the violence we've been talking about takes place. They all have one thing in common. They've been run by Liberal Democrats for decades right. Most of these states have been run into the ground by Liberal Democrats for decades. If you WANNA know what America will look like if Biden Bolshevik Bernie. Pelosi Schumer and Bozo. That team gets place look at new. York state and city look at Chicago the City Illinois. The State Look at California. Look at Oregon. Look at Portland, the city. Look at Seattle. Look at the state of Washington. Yes. And I. Love this country too much. You know it's an all hands on deck moment and Every everyone of you've got this connection with younger people in this country. You have this incredible. A credible platform you built, and it's become powerful and meaningful and transformative to the country, and you're going out there, and you're fighting on these college campuses and you. You know it's not easy to be in the middle of a I call it a shift. Show all the time, but let's well put, but you do it. And it's freedom works. Every time you give up freedom for security, you lose your freedom because the security that they're offering. These promises that can never ever be fulfilled. In America. The land. I'll close with this unless you want to go further I can keep going the. Barry Farber who was a mentor of mine. Just recently passed away like ninety ninety one. And he always said there's never been a country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power and abused at less than the United States well I add. A country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power abused at less, but used it to advanced human condition. The reason America is great and exceptional. If I can say that today, it's not perfect, but it's great. An exceptional is because of its people, and because of the fundamentals of liberty and freedom. So that? Natural rights versus government or rights, natural rights come from God doubt by our Creator. Life Liberty pursuit of happiness while you can't pursue happiness these days in Chicago New York Moreland Seattle. So there's a lot on the line. I love your audience. I'm so thankful for all you're doing, and you've got a great team that you building review and you're out there fighting the fight and I just urge you guys. Just fight like your country depends on it. Because America's, we know it. It's all hanging in the balance. Yet was Sean. You've been so generous the last quick thing I defend the president all the time personally as a person. Can you comment on that because I've had the opportunity to meet him? not as much as you obviously and get to know him, but a lot of people here misrepresentations in lies about who he is as a human being. Let's close on this note. Can you just mention one or two things that that people can take away from that? You know first of all. It's interesting. Nobody seems to understand Donald trump yet. They don't want to understand. I mean Donald Trump. The Dog Bites the beasts, things you feeling sad or get cancer. You Complain Trump. I mean that's how saying the leftist. But here's a guy that is so unique he this guy is like a soon nami force of energy like I've never met my life. The most distinct and unique quality he's had is as president. You mentioned the Supreme Court. He put those people that he said he put. He cut the bureaucracy as he said he'd caught, and he cut the taxes as he said he'd cut. He did the North Dakota. A keystone pipelines Anwar Likey said he would. He's building the wall or almost four hundred miles. A wall by the by election will be over four hundred miles. He found a way it was. It was an uphill climb He said he wanted to pull us out of foreign conflicts, but not back away from evil defeated. The Caliphate took out. Baghdadi and Associates took out Sola Mani took out the Al. Qaeda leader in Yemen. So? What makes him special and unique in terms of presidency is that he is who you see is who you get. The guy that's fights on twitter is the guy that's fighting for a better trade. Deal the guy that fights. Against Liberal Democrats and the media mob is the same guy is fighting to keep his promises that to me makes him the most unique transformative political figure in our lifetime. And Right now. The. We tip the scales. You have a choice. It's never been a bigger choice. He will keep his promises. Coronas been a little bit of a curve ball to the world, but even that ten days after the first case, the only guy that I know of thought about a travel ban will be donald trump. They were teaching at the time and Joe Binder Biden was call them Sinophobic, so he's a man of his word. He's a man that will fight to his last dying breath for this country and the promises he made, and that makes them in my view very transformative. Men will. The book is live for Your Die God bless you, Sean, thank you for that. You do and we really appreciate. It helps you soon. Thanks bye. What a great conversation that was! Please email me or questions freedom. Charlie Kirk Dot Com freedom at Charlie. KIRK DOT COM please type in trolley. Kirk, show your podcast provider. Hit subscribe, give us a five star reviews screen shot at an email us. If you want to win a signed copy of the Maga- doctrine, please get involved with turning-point USA at Teepee USA dot com that is Teepee USA DOT com. 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New Trump Campaign ad Looks Bad For Trump
"Donald Trump is in a lot of dead, so it's very unlikely that he actually outright owns anything, but he does love to own himself, and that's the case with the latest campaign ad you put out. Let's take a look. You have reached the nine one one police emergency line due to defunding of the police department. We're sorry, but no one is here to take your call. If you're calling to report a rape, please press one to report a murder press to to report a home invasion press three for all other crimes. Leave your name and number and someone will get back to. You are estimated. Wait. Time is currently five days goodbye. Now if that adds scares, you and you wouldn't WanNa live in the type of country that would have those types of scenes of. And Destruction! You should probably vote trump out of office because all of that footage happened under trump's watch. In fact, all the footage used in that ad was from March and I'll give you. Those details I'm sorry may of this year and I'll give you those details in just a moment, but also one of trump's campaign advisers Boris. Epstein also shared a similar video. NOT THAT AD itself. But in that video you see the violence and the destruction, and he says this would be Joe Biden's America. It's a very scary place except it's happening right now, and it's in trump's America. And I want you to remember what he said during came action. Because if you say wow, I, mean look. They're protesting. The saints that have happened recently police abuse. Yeah, well, trump had four years to fix it, and he didn't. He actually loves when police abuse African American citizens. Why after George Floyd? Floyd, but let's remember to protect the real victims here the confederate flag. And military bases named after confederate heroes so. Yeah he? There's a reason why those things are happening. Even the worst of most of them are overwhelmingly peaceful protests. Of the rioters and looters are because of Donald Trump's complete and utter indifference this issue, so that is trump's America but back. Then when he was accepting the nomination, he said the crime and violence that today our nation will soon. I mean very soon come to an end beginning on. January, twenty twenty seventeen safety will be restored. Saying. Let's let's go to those images and like some screen shots of the video that was used in that campaign ad, which again were from May of this year and we can just obviously. Rebut that ridiculous statement, so that's from Minneapolis. In May of twenty twenty twenty may twenty to be specific. It's an image from the night when a Minneapolis police precinct was burnt down. Okay, let's go to the next one. Another screen shot from trump's add This is a shot of liquor store that was set ablaze on the same night. Again this is in Minneapolis. May Twenty twenty-eighth Twenty twenty when the president of the United States is Donald Trump? And then let's go to one more. It's an image of a window being smashed at a bankruptcy court in Grand Rapids Michigan. And, it was taken. This photo is from May thirtieth twenty twenty so looks like he's by way. He's a criminal himself. I mean defrauded students with trump. University used his own charitable foundation, which had to be shut down because he was utilizing the funds from that charitable foundation to enrich himself. He has violated the emoluments clause of our Constitution over and over and over again he loves crime. He bathes in crime. But he he uses law and order as a dog whistle and a lot of ways. No no way since one hundred percent right and so the slogan is no justice, no peace and that's almost exactly what's happened during the trump era, there's no justice at all the real criminals. The top Roger Stone and all the others have been released from the jails. It's like a reverse Bain. Vicious release all the white collar criminals, and all the crooks of the. And all Donald Trump's friends Michael Milkin. Blagojevich Democrat doesn't matter nothing matters. Okay except Donald Trump's France so did and then at the bottom. Did any of US get justice? No, the police abuse continued, and and what Donald Trump has to offer us more violence and violence begets violence. So that's where we are today and I'm going to go back one more time. Do speech a twenty sixteen while he was accepting the GOP nomination, he said. Nobody knows the system better than me. Which is why I alone can fix it. Okay well. You've got four years to fix it and apparently only one who could do it. So why are you waiting for? The protests are larger. Also different issue violence is on the rise. While you're not fixing it. Are you holding back? Are you holding? America hostage until your second term, and then you will magically fixing who could believe such preposterous things? He obviously is in over. His head doesn't know what he's doing and everything is done has been counterproductive and led to more violence to. What we see in that ad, which is trump's America? Want, they mentioned rate there in the beginning punched out word to scare people even more. If you're reporting a rate, we will not be responding. Who are you kidding? The reason we're a have deep on the police. Responding, anyway, only thirty percent of rape cases across the country are ever solve by our incompetent police. We WanNA defunding partly because we want to build a better police department that actually solves cases.
"roger stone" Discussed on The Chad Prather Show
"All right, we're hanging out with Roger Stone Roger. When we left our hero last he was on the verge of danger the feds. We're at his front door. No charges have been made frogmen with long rifles in the canal. This is bad news, Roger. This is bad news. CNN cameras everywhere, which is the thing that really pisses me off. I mean Eh, that not only fascinates me, but absolutely pisses me off that that CNN's notified of everything that's going on now. These these Jack. Legs are down there at starbucks getting a coffee waiting to go. To arrest outlaw Roger Stone. What happened next? Well they pounded on the door. They pulled me out to the street. As I say I said I'd like to see my lawyer say your lawyer will meet us at the FBI processing center. I said still charges against me. They said we'll show them to you in car. On the way they arrested fine but I now know by looking at the security camera footage that. CNN showed up house exactly fourteen minutes ahead of the insane, so the idea that they were there on a hunch. Reporting is nonsense, but here's the group. A reporter with. His name is Sara Murray Murray. A particularly depleted his woman. Contact one of my lawyers and said you know your. Your client has just been arrested. This is about seven o'clock seven am. And he had no idea and she emailed him a copy of my indictment. Might indictment was sealed was a sealed federal documents. Thirty in the morning and the copy she emailed him had no court markings. Patient Markings Time Stan. But. It did have the Meta data tags on it. The show is written by. Andrew, Weisman. Was Fact Lapel head of the moderate NASA Gatien. Now reasons is in court chat is because. Chipping someone as to the execution of a search warrant. Is a felony and in my case, not only add an arrest warrant for me, but they also had a search warrant for the premises in for the next thirteen hours after the Wifi dragged out street in her nightclothes, her bare feet, and she by the way his death, so she woke up looking down the barrel to gun. Song gone her. Visa Home, invasion or what's going on? then. They rip through the House for the next thirteen hours. Course you. We both know what they found. Nothing. So I went to the FBI a booking center, I was a fingerprint dead. My pictures taken. Everybody's very professionally. Bobby someday I have no argument with the individual FBI aitchison facts interesting at the house when they let me go into tooth, brushing feel other things, the agents who were Miami basically look at me and roll their eyes, or they look at me and Wick A guys were directly under Muller. Who saw this was a? A crucial mission now I was being arrested for the first time I had no previous criminal record. Right Ninety this speeding ticket. They were arrested for the non-violent white collar crime process crime of lying Congress when I look at the charges. I said you gotta be kidding. This is it and immersive. They, then they then sell to with my lawyers. At that point, the government said. We're not A. Why did you the rest?.
Roger Stone under fire for using racial slur in radio interview
"Over the weekend with Roger Stone, one time advisor and self proclaimed dirty trickster for President Trump Stone was speaking to black radio host Morris O'Kelly on I Heart Station Ko Phi in Los Angeles. He was heard muttering. A racial slur. After all, Kelly had asked him a question and then responded here. Yeah, I was. I was talking and you said something about Negro, so I wasn't exactly sure. Our did not Okay. You're out of your mind. You're Mark Roger Stone recently had his sentence commuted by the president. He was tied up in the Robert Mueller investigation. Stone is now a free man. A 20 in Boston and
Roger Stone calls Black radio host a racial slur
"The air. on Okay. the air. If you did Okay. not If hear you that did not portion hear of the conversation, that portion of the conversation, I was pressing Roger I was Stone pressing as Roger faras Stone his as commutation. faras his commutation. That his That relationship his in proximity relationship to in proximity the president to probably the president had something probably to had do something to with do the with president showing the him president favor showing him favor and he he was and just he he talking was about how just unfair talking the about justice how unfair system the was. justice Well, system that's was. the Well, likely that's follow the up likely question. follow How up question. can you talk about How an unfair can you talk justice about an unfair system justice when system you are benefiting when you from are that benefiting same justice from that system? same If justice you're not the system? friend of the If president, you're not the friend then of the president, then You probably don't get the commutation. You probably don't get the commutation. I think he I took think exception he took to exception it. And to Eric, it. are you And Are you Eric, queued are up you on your Are you end? queued up on your end? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, Okay. I got it. This Okay. is where This everything is where went. everything went. Left, everyone pay attention. Left, everyone Let's pay attention. all listen Let's to this all listen together. to this Hit it. together. Hit it. I do believe that I do certain believe people that certain are treated people differently are treated in differently the federal in justice the system. federal I justice do system. absolutely I do believe absolutely that. But believe I also that. believe But I that also your friendship believe that your and friendship relationship and in history relationship with Donald in history Trump with Donald weighed Trump more heavily weighed more than heavily him. Just wanted than to him. make Just sure wanted that justice to make sure was done that justice by was AH done person by AH in person the justice system in the justice that you were treated system so that you unfairly. were treated so There unfairly. are thousands of people There are treated thousands unfairly of people daily. treated unfairly How daily. your number just How happened your to number come up just in the lottery. happened to come up I'm in the lottery. guessing I'm it was guessing more than just it was look. more than just Roger, look. right? Roger, right? Rose, You're arguing Rose, with You're me. arguing with me. I'm sorry. What is that? I'm sorry. What is that? Roger. Roger. Roger. Roger. I'm sorry. What did you say? I'm sorry. What did you say? I'm sorry. You you I'm sorry. argue You with you him. argue with him. I thought we were having just I thought a very we were spirited having conversation. just a very spirited What conversation. happened? What happened? Would you not like to continue Would you not the conversation, like to continue sir? the conversation, sir? I hear that the line I is hear not that dead. the line is not dead. You're back. You're I don't know back. what that is. I don't know what that is. Well, Yeah, Well, I was, Yeah, uh, I was talking I was, and uh, I you was said talking something about and Negro, you said something so I wasn't about exactly Negro, sure. so I wasn't exactly sure. Our did not Our did not Okay. You know your mind Okay. You know your mind your mind? your I mind? okay. I Well, okay. Well, we'll let the listeners decide. we'll let the listeners Let me decide. go to the next Let question. me go to Then the next question. why? Then Whatever why? Whatever the next question the next question No. No. Do you literally Do you have literally ice in have your veins? ice in your veins? Well, let me put it on for Well, you. let me put it on for you. How were you able to keep How that were going you able to keep that and going keep your composure? and keep your composure? How do you How do do that? you I'm do that? sitting I'm over here losing sitting my over mind. here losing my mind. I didn't know I didn't it know first. I need it first. to figure I out need to this figure is what's going out through my mind. this is what's I had to going figure through my out mind. whether I had he to figure was out going whether he to each was going yet. to each yet. And then And then when I had chest really when think I had about chest it during really the think break, about this is it something during the I noticed break, this is something I noticed if he honestly if couldn't he honestly hear me, couldn't hear me, what is it? Someone says, what if is they it? can't Someone hear says, you if they and can't in the middle hear of you a conversation. and in the middle of a conversation. Hello Hello there. there. He didn't say that. It's just He silence. didn't say that. It's just silence. And he obviously wasn't And talking he obviously wasn't talking any exhale. any exhale. I heard I heard what I heard. what I heard. And the audio And the audio is what the audio is is, what the But audio let me tell is, you But swallow let me tell you what swallow I felt about what it. I felt about it. And this kind of And this kind of I'm loath to I'm talk loath about race to talk on about the Mo Kelly race show. on the Mo Kelly I'm show. loath I'm because loath because by and large by people and large don't people respect don't the conversation. respect the conversation. They don't respect They don't it at respect all. They want it at to all. hear They want what they to already hear what believe. they already They believe. don't want information. They don't want They information. want They
Mo'Kelly responds to former Trump adviser Roger Stone calling him a racial slur during interview
"And you have questions. In fact, I have questions during the program. During one of the breaks. I was told Eric if he could get the What Roger Stone allegedly said and want to get to that in just a moment. What would you do an interview like that? I have certain responsibilities. And if you watch any good reporter and I'm not saying I'm a good reporter, but there's a technique you watch report like during a White House press briefing. And the president may say something personal may make a personal insult. Notice. They don't respond to that Their job is to get their questions asked and get an answer. My job as I see it. Was to keep Roger Stone on the phone. And regardless of what may have transpired, regardless of what person that may have felt about what he was saying, my job was to keep him talking. For your benefit as the audience and my benefit to have that conversation. And it's not always comfortable. And since I'm processing, quite sure different people heard different things or wanted to know different things. I'm going to turn this over now to to all his sharp producer wallet. Take it from here. No, uh, first of all, fantastic job That was quite possibly one of the best interviews that has ever been on the Mo Kelly show. Hands down. Great questions. Fantastic. I okay? Maybe I heard wrong. I need to go back and hear the audio. I swear this man Off the cuff said. I cannot believe I am arguing with this Negro on the air. Okay. If you did not hear that portion of the conversation, I was pressing Roger Stone as faras his commutation. That his relationship in proximity to the president probably had something to do with the president showing him favor and he he was just talking about how unfair the justice system was. Well, that's the likely follow up question. How can you talk about an unfair justice system when you are benefiting from that same justice system? If you're not the friend of the president, then You probably don't get the commutation. I think he took exception to it. And Eric, are you Are you queued up on your end? Yeah, I got it. Okay. This is where everything went. Left, everyone pay attention. Let's all listen to this together. Hit it. I do believe that certain people are treated differently in the federal justice system. I do absolutely believe that. But I also believe that your friendship and relationship in history with Donald Trump weighed more heavily than him. Just wanted to make sure that justice was done by AH person in the justice system that you were treated so unfairly. There are thousands of people treated unfairly daily. How your number just happened to come up in the lottery. I'm guessing it was more than just look. Roger, right? Rose, You're arguing with me. I'm sorry. What is that? Roger. Roger. I'm sorry. What did you say? I'm sorry. You you argue with him. I thought we were having just a very spirited conversation. What happened? Would you not like to continue the conversation, sir? I hear that the line is not dead. You're back. I don't know what that is. Well, Yeah, I was, uh, I was talking and you said something about Negro, so I wasn't exactly sure. Our did not Okay. You know your mind your mind? I okay. Well, we'll let the listeners decide. Let me go to the next question. Then why? Whatever the next question No. Do you literally have ice in your veins? Well, let me put it on for you. How were you able to keep that going and keep your composure? How do you do that? I'm sitting over here losing my mind. I didn't know it first. I need to figure out this is what's going through my mind. I had to figure out whether he was going to each yet. And then when I had chest really think about it during the break, this is something I noticed if he honestly couldn't hear me, what is it? Someone says, if they can't hear you and in the middle of a conversation. Hello there. He didn't say that. It's just silence. And he obviously wasn't talking any exhale. I heard what I heard. And the audio is what the audio is, But let me tell you swallow what I felt about it. And this kind of I'm loath to talk about race on the Mo Kelly show. I'm loath because by and large people don't respect the conversation. They don't respect it at all. They want to hear what they already believe. They don't want information. They want confirmation. They want affirmation. And a lot of times. I always say I can show you better than I can tell you. I've had seven pressed to my count seven presidential candidates on this program either while they were running or sometime later in their professional history. Seven. We've had any number of senators, you have any number of Congress people. I've been in radio 20 years I have been a BBC political commentator for 10 years have been published in The New York Times. L A Times Chicago Sun Times and been on. Good Morning America. CNN MSNBC H L In MSNBC, NBC it just about any alphabet, Fox 11. I say all that to say not as a boast. But the only thing that I felt was true, honest and sincere. That Roger Stone said was in that moment that he thought I was not listening and all of my professional Crit accolades. All my professional bony feet days went out the window because as far as he was concerned, he was talking and arguing with a Negro. It didn't matter that I went to Georgetown University. It didn't matter that I did my interns on internship on Capitol Hill. It didn't matter that I've interviewed the best of the best in All walks of life. It did not matter because in that moment he was flustered. He obviously was angry and He? It was almost like, If you want to know how a person actually is. Well, get them when they think that the cameras aren't rolling. The microphone is off. And no one else was around. That moment was the closest thing we'll ever get to that with Roger Stone. He didn't think that I could hear him. And he seemingly turned to another person in that room and says something unintelligible in said something like I can't believe I'm argument this Negro. Can we isolate that, Eric? Do you have that isolated anyways? We can listen to just that. What was she like arguing with me? One more time. What was she like arguing with me? Well, I don't know what the first few words but this Negro is clear as day. I don't care what precedes it. It is what it is. But But 12 here's my main point. That's why I'm low to discuss race on this program, not because Because I think it's a silly conversation, and people don't actually want to have a sincere conversation. Because not a day goes by which someone says to me on some love with my email and you see the twat posted all the time. You're not on Ko Phi, but four or you didn't get into Georgetown but four Or you don't deserve to or you're only there because of every single day. It's a perpetual audition to prove myself having nothing to do with my actual professional accomplishments. And I can say that, but in that moment it is demonstrated for everyone to see and everyone to hear. So going back to how did I keep my cool? That's Tuesday in America for me, that's every single day, but my job was to keep him talking because people wanted to know. Was he going to get a trump tattoo? See, We don't get that question if I reject or I chase him down this warm hole of Negro He denied it. In that moment, he lied about it. What is there to discuss? I know him on the radio. I know that there's going to be a podcast. I don't need to chase after that. Because I knew
Roger Stone calls black radio host Mo’Kelly a racial slur during interview
"Me on the line is the Roger Stone. We're right in the middle of a hot and heated debate about whether there was a material lie or whether there was any knowing intent to deceive or mislead the federal government. And we're in lock pitched battle the moment Roger Stone you were saying I was saying that there is no underlying crime here. But again, we have an MSNBC that I would be charged with espionage, treason, conspiracy against United States, money laundering, mail fraud, wire fraud. Aiding and betting a conspiracy cyber crimes, including unauthorized access to a detective, computer cyber crimes, including receipts, distribution of stolen material, Yet I'm not indicted with any of those, although you will read in the media that that indictment was coming for almost two years. So where are the serious crimes here? And while we're at it, there will be a full investigation into bay in October of 17 which by the way, is three months after Robert Mueller already knew there was no rush inclusion. When asked about this before the Senate Judiciary Committee ride. Rosenstein said that he did not approve the investigation into Roger Stone, which we know from the document that he did on October 26 40 17. So in other words, Rosen seeing Guess what lied to Congress about a material matter. What's he being charged? I don't know. Just standard. That's my argument. You know, I do believe that certain people are treated differently in the federal justice system. I do absolutely believe that. But I also believe that your friendship and relationship in history with Donald Trump weighed more heavily than him. Just wanted to make sure that justice was done by AH person in the justice system that you were treated so unfairly. There are thousands of people treated unfairly. Daily. How your number just happen to come up in the lottery. I'm guessing it was more than just look. Roger, right? What was she like arguing with me? I'm sorry, was that Roger. Roger. I'm sorry. What did you say? I'm sorry. You you argue with him. I thought we were having just a very spirited conversation. What happened? Would you not like to continue the conversation, sir? I hear that the line is not dead. You're back. I don't know what that is. Well, Yeah, I was, uh, I was talking and you said something about Negro, so I wasn't exactly sure. Our did not Okay. You know your mind your mind? I okay. Well, we'll let the listeners decide.
"roger stone" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
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Trump's Niece Wins Legal Battle Over Tell-All Book
"The trump administration gave Michael Cohen Choice. Sign this paper, saying you won't write a book or go back to prison. Silence or prison. Your choice then there's the book by Donald Trump's niece slated for official publication tomorrow Donald. Trump and his family have been in court up through today, trying to block the book from being published and Block Mary trump from saying anything about the book. which feels ridiculous because you probably feel like you've already read it, since just about every media outlet on the planet has gotten a copy and dissect it already. Well this evening. Donald Trump and his family lost that court fight a New York State Supreme Court Judge rejected. The trump families attempt to block the book ruling that quote the potential enormous cost and logistical nightmare of stopping the publication, recalling and removing. Thousands of books from all types of booksellers, brick and mortar and virtual libraries and private citizens is an insurmountable task at this time. The judge then quotes a different judge in another case Donald. Trump lost when he tried to block the publication of his former National Security Advisor John Bolton's book quote by the looks of it. The horses not just out of the barn. It is out of the country. Mary Trump's book can go forward and also married is now free to speak publicly about it. which should be interesting, so Michael Cohen's Book Mary Trump's book. The president his family his White House doing everything they can to prevent the from coming out up to and including sending Michael Cohen back to prison, but today we learned about a third book. Now see if you can spot the difference today. Today. The Justice Department released the actual executive order commuting the prison sentence of Roger. Stone he can see the president's unmistakable sharpie signature there. The president commuted his old friend sentence on Friday night, but it's not clear how broad the commutation was. In fact, the judge in stones case demanded to see the actual order to determine whether it covered stones, prison, time or his probation as well well. Now, we know that the president took care of everything. His Old Friend Prison Time supervised released twenty thousand dollar. Fine all of it poof gone. And today Roger Stone announced that he celebrating by. Writing a book. That's right, so if you testify unflattering Lee about the president, and you try and write a book you get to get the go back to prison. If you withhold information from Congress and prosecutors to protect the president, you get your prison sentence erased, and you can publish to your heart's content.
Judge in Roger Stone case wants more information about the scope of clemency
"Federal judge wants more information about President Trump's decision to commute the prison sentence of his longtime friend Roger Stone. U S District Court Judge Amy Berman. Jackson ordered It's Stone's lawyers provide her by tomorrow with a copy of the executive order that commuted stone sentence. She also asked for clarity about the scope of the clemency, including whether it covers just his prison sentence, or also the two year period of supervised release that was part of his sentence. The president commuted stones, 40 month prison sentence for lying to Congress and witness intimidation. Just days before Stone was to report to prison. Fox's John Decker in Washington the
Judge seeks more details on Trump's clemency for Roger Stone
"A federal judge is demanding more information about president trump's decision to commute Roger stone's prison sentence judge Amy Berman Jackson presided over the trial were stone was convicted for making false statements witness tampering and other crimes just days before stone was to report to prison the president commuted his longtime allies forty month sentence Friday night Jackson wants a copy of the president's executive order by tomorrow and clarity on whether it covers just stones prison sentence or also the two years supervised release that were part of his sentence Sager made Ghani Washington
Execution blocked after victims' family raises virus concerns
"Execution in almost two decades takes place. Convicted in a 1996 killing of three people. In Arkansas. 47 year old Daniel Lee was scheduled to die by lethal injection at a federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana. But a district judge put the execution on hold, saying the family of the victims has expressed concerns about the Corona virus and traveling to witness Lee's death. They also say they aren't trying To overturn the death sentence. They want a life sentence, social distancing and the fact there are now four confirmed Corona virus case is that the prison is also a concern. DOJ has filed an emergency motion to overturn the ruling and execute Lee Pat Piper Washington President Trump commuted his friend Roger Stone's prison
Mueller on Stone: "He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so"
"Encouraged Americans to use face masks. President Trump decided to wear when in public for the first time. I never been against you, but I do believe they have a time and place when you're in a hospital, especially in that particular setting, where you're talking to a lot of Soldiers of people that in some cases just got off the operating table. I think it's a great thing to wear. For months, the president has opted out of wearing a mask. I won't be doing it personally. It's a recommendation now spotted with the face covering while visiting first responders and wounded veterans at Walter Reed Medical Center that visit coming nearly 24 hours after he declared his longtime friend and ally. Roger Stone. A Freeman. Thank you, Mr President. Thank you for giving me the up for thank you for saving my life. Stone was convicted in November on seven felony counts brought against him by special Counsel Robert Mueller, including lying to Congress, witness tampering and obstructing the house investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Roger Stone was brought into this switch on this whole political witchhunt and the Mueller A scam is a scam because it's been proven false and he was treated very unfairly. In a rare move Mueller breaking his silence to defend the investigation and its findings. Writing in the Washington Post, Stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon. And rightly so, and to Republican senators are speaking out against
Mueller defends Russia probe, says Stone remains a felon
"President trump's decision to commute the sentence of political confidante Roger stone is drawing sharp criticism from Democrats and pointed comments from the special counsel who oversaw his prosecution Roger stone was treated horribly Roger stone recruited very unfairly that's president trump speaking to reporters at the White House Saturday but in an op ed in The Washington Post former special counsel Robert Muller recounted how during the twenty sixteen campaign stone communicated with people known to be Russian intelligence officers who had stolen democratic emails house intelligence committee chairman Adam Schiff tells ABC's this week this effort to get and use foreign assistance is what Roger stone had information on and he lied to cover up to protect the president Muller says stone committed federal crimes and rightly remains a convicted felon Ben Thomas Washington
Trump Stands by Decision to Commute Sentence of Roger Stone
"Criticism from both Democrats and Republicans, President Trump stands by his decision to commute the federal prison sentence of his friend Roger Stone. Roger Stone was brought into this switch on this whole political witchhunt and the Mueller scam. Stone was convicted as part of the Russia probe. And despite the computation former special counsel Robert Mueller says he's still a convicted felon. A short time ago, the White House said in Port Robert Mueller and his corrupt investigation failed to hold anyone in the Obama Biden administration accountable for their negligence towards Russian interference or for spying on the Trump campaign.
Trump threatens school funding, demands new CDC guidelines amid reopening battle
"The president wearing a mask in public for the first time at Walter. Reed on Saturday faces a leadership crisis of his own making with new use cases spiking more than seventy, one, thousand on Friday and daily death tolls in Arizona, South Carolina and Texas up by more than one hundred percent in the past month. The worst is yet to come. Come as we work our way through that massive increase and people testing positive Mr. trump is at odds with his top infectious disease expert on the trajectory of the virus. The current state is really not good. We are still knee deep in the first wave of this Dr Out. She's a nice man, but he's made a Lotta mistakes of the federal response as a country. When you compare us to other countries I don't think you can say we're doing great. We're just not is the united. States losing the war against Kofi, no, we're winning the war and we have areas that flamed up and they're going to be. Fine over a period of time, and on the death, rate or mortality rate is right now at a level that. People, don't talk about, but it's down ten fold ten fold. It's a false narrative to take comfort in in a lower rate of death and president. Trump is threatening to make the already difficult debate over school reopenings, his latest front of the culture wars after the CDC published new guidelines Mr. trump called them very tough and expensive within hours. The prison said today. We don't want the guidance to be too tough. and. That's the reason why next week. CDC's going to be issuing a new set of tools. The president warned may cut off funding if not open pointing to democratic governors. They don't want to open because they think it will help them on November third. I think it's GonNa hurt them on November third. Open your schools I don't see how we do anything, but remote education of the federal government doesn't step in now with less than four months until the presidential election. Mr Trump finds himself under siege. To conservative justices he appointed, joined the Supreme Court majority to dismiss his claim to absolute immunity from investigators, seeking his tax returns is a political witch. The likes of which nobody's ever seen before a tell all book by his niece hits bookstores this week near reaction to Mary. Trump's books and many republicans worry as political standing will hurt the party down the ballot in November late on Friday. Perhaps looking to his post-presidency, MR trump commuted the sentence of his longtime friend campaign advisor Roger Stone who was convicted of lying to Congress, witness, tampering and obstruction all to protect the president, and the president has saved my life, and he's giving me the opportunity to fight for vindication.
Mueller on Stone: "He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so"
"On President Trump to wear a face mask and Saturday he did while visiting Walter Reed Medical Center. I think when you're in a hospital, especially in that particular setting, where you're talking to a lot of soldiers and people that in some cases just got off the operating table. I think it's a great thing to wear a mask I never been against. The president wore a black mask with the presidential seal. He also said his longtime associate, Roger Stone, was treated horribly the day after he commuted stones prison sentence. Stone was set to report to prison this week after being convicted of crimes, including lying to Congress during the Russia Investigation. In response, the former special counsel Robert Mueller, in a Washington Post op ed says, quote Roger Stone remains a convicted felon and rightly so. He says he felt compelled to respond to allegations that the investigation was a hoax. Two police
"roger stone" Discussed on Part of the Problem
"Says Ukraine RADIM DOT COM home of the sexy dollar kilo. Let's get back into the show. The it you know I I, think the best description that I've heard for our current legal order is anarchy tyranny way are there is the heavy hand of the state for people who should never be prosecuted. And then the people who deserve to be prosecuted get let off completely scot-free, and you think about some of the crimes that happened under the Bush administration, and under the the Obama Administration I mean the people out there protesting police, brutality, or you know the legacy of which I certainly against police brutality. But you know there's there's active slavery going on in Libya right now, and nobody seems to be interested in holding anyone accountable for that. Well right? Yes, you're right Hillary Clinton. Who was hilary's war as they were, they were prepared to run on that until it it. It didn't go so good, and then they didn't want to talk about it anymore, but yet. Julian Assange, who you know? This whole thing started in in relation to You know he's done the best reporting of anybody and look at what ends up happening to that guy. Look what happens to you and yet all of these these people who are involved in this conspiracy and I'm not. This isn't like a you know a conspiracy theory in the derogatory sense of the word I mean Andrew. McCabe said he said we. We discussed invoking the twenty Fifth Amendment we thought about every way we try to get donald trump out of there, and we settled on the special prosecutor. This was clearly they've told US chuck. Schumer said the deep state has six ways to Sunday to get back at this was. This was all laid out on the table? All you have to do is listen to the people and they'll tell you what was happening here, but you know none of this really seems to matter. It seems like the real criminals never get in trouble. Just like you know as you mentioned before clapper I mean there's an open and shut case of perjury with an underlying crime. Like? About whether we are collecting Meta data on the average citizen. That's a serious issue, yes. So where is he now just to be clear? He's teaching ethics at Vermont College, and he's getting out two hundred, fifty grand a year from CNN to go on the air. And couldn't you couldn't write this stuff in a novel? This, if you put this in a novel, they would be like okay. This is just too cartoonish. You can't have that character. Go Start Teaching ethics, but this is the reality that we live in, but. Now get given the situation. You're you're report to to prison at the end of this month. Is that correct? That is correct. It appears now. Tomorrow formulated that the. Federal Bureau of Prisons and the US Attorney for the Gift of Columbia are not inclined to extend my surrender date beyond June thirtieth. So how the words just put this context, there are different rules for Michael al-banadi and Michael Code, and then there are for Roger Style and sixty seven years old. I'm certain with certain underlying health conditions. I'm certainly highly susceptible cove in nineteen Those guys are. Under home confinement. They won't even consider that that I. Need to be sent to prison because I'm so dangerous. I just got off a conference. Call with my lawyers to try to determine what action if any we can take, but it's just another demonstration of the unequal treatment of those who support the president and those who oppose him. Attorney General Bar has laid out in right game. The way. The incarceration of not Eilly crimes or criminals are supposed to be handled in this period. Evidently I am exempt from those particular regulations, so we shall see I don't expect. The date to be stretched beyond June thirty. I've been very forthright about the fact that I hope the president will come forward with clemency on. The, on the basis that both mercy and justice. A seventy two year old Richard I thrive. She can't. We've lost all of our assets. Yeah, one of the first things they do in these situations is destroy you financial. So by gagging me, they take away my ability to make a living. Because! I write, speak to make living and the things that people want me to write and speak about. Are the very that I'm prohibiting discuss. A show in the legal fees or you know in excess now two million dollars, so I've lost my home I lost one of my two cars, my car and driving out fifteen years old. I share with my wife. I lost my insurance my savings. I never had any real estate or stock portfolio to lose, but I'm technically indigent at this moment I own these books, which probably wouldn't sell for much in the clothes on my back, but that's about all I've I had some Nice Jewelry Rings? Watch chains I had to sell all. That stuff could pay my lawyer, so they squeeze you. Financially. And then really the whole reason for this became clear on July twenty fourth. Twenty, nine, thousand, nine hundred. Just about a week before the Miller report was released when genie. Approached my lawyers and said that. If your client Roger. Stone was ready to confess if he was ready to come clean. If he was ready to re remember the content of some twenty nine phone calls between he and candidate trump that we have records of not recordings of but records a all of which were longer than a half an hour. She said there are other calls with their much shorter, but if he were willing to tell the truth, finally that these were about Russia at wikileaks and coordination, while than we would be maybe be willing to recommend to the judge that he served no jail time now. We can't guarantee that the judge would take our. And sentencing is not up to us, but we might be willing to make that agreement. To which I said, no, because it would be a lie I, don't know any derogatory information about Donald Trump and the testimony of convicted Liar gates and convicted liar. Michael colored notwithstanding I never spoke to donald trump about wikileaks or Russia on any occasion period there is no evidence other than the lies of those two gentlemen which are completely uncorroborated. They can't even seem to get the date straight. I can't remember the date this happened, but you're sure it happened in one case gates. His I couldn't hear the conversation from where I was seated. But I'm sure this is what it was about please so. You know I'm in this position. I'm looking at for years in jail, although I honestly don't think last four years giving Kovac nineteen because I refused not because I refuse to tell the truth, but because I refused to lie. At the end of my trial, the judge subjected to a forty five minute. Diatribe which she just attacked me relentlessly ED persuade. Among the things, she said we're interested. There was nothing funny about the mother investigation, really. You've been convicted of covering up for Donald Trump not one of the charges, not what I was convicted of your belligerent, and you and you revel in your lives really I never testified in mild trial. So, what do you base that? It goes on and on the truth matters will. She's absolutely right drew. Does matter and the truth is? She was biased from the beginning. And the truth is you have crooked main juror and the truth is you denied every reasonable defense. The truth does matter matter, and the truth is. This was a kangaroo court. Into, my palate lawyers are stunned. At the things that we're GONNA trial by the prosecution and there are legitimate misconduct charges against some of the prosecutors. And if you owe me, I will never stop fighting. I will, if I will never admit to a crime that I did not commit, I'm being persecuted, because I'm a forty year, friend and loyal supporter Donald Trump by the way I'm a libertarian to that doesn't mean I support one hundred percent of what he does, but it must tell you. This is instance on war Bistro. Absolutely right? We should be out of Afghanistan out of Syria out of Iraq. We.
"roger stone" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"He's fucked so defense for the witness. Intimidation with this was really weird. Moment in the closing arguments I think they were trying. Trying to defend with account of witnesses intimidation against Stone for how he treated Credit Co mentioning the Godfather a bunch of times. And trying to say I'll take take your dog. And and the defense attorney said stone and credit go have been tampering with each other for twenty years and that that sounds gross. And for me. This isn't just about being happy. Like I said that stone is going to prison which I I am. I'm exceedingly happy. Be about that. Sorry not sorry. It's again that facts matter. The truth matters and they matter so much like I said the jury didn't deliberate long and you can't lie to Congress and get away with it. That is a very clear message. It's a it's a win for Muller it's a win for the rule of law. It's a win for our country. It member that arc of justice. I said keep just you know. Keep the faith here here. We go these are rewards For for that patients and this is a big big thing yeah. I'm surprised that they came to that. That conclusion as a jury so quickly I was expecting it to take longer so was I. Yeah how long. I don't know I don't know what standard though for jury deliberations if it's like normal normal for to exceed more than a day it would be hard to put an average on it considering the scope of this case in that it involves the president and the Russia investigation and I think gets like it's just one of those standalone things really. That's how long it took. Yeah look at him it also documentation but also yeah. Look at him he does scream. I have fifty watches attached to the inside of my coat. uh-huh shirt that says and and like like you were saying Amanda this sends a clear message. Sunlen who has had already amend his testimony once and then based on some testimony that came out this week he is already we know now that he did not testify about the call that he he had with trump And so he's going to have to make some more amended testimony We went over this in the more she read episode. But he's got a couple couple things he can do he can keep climbing. Keep lying And you know face them the Roger Stone Music or He can ask for an immunity deal. They can do that and Congress They can say look to. Just tell us everything we are going to prosecute you or he can plead the fifth and I think think I could come back and Samina plead the fifth and then he could be offered an immunity deal to say. Tell you what proffer you. We're not going to get you on any of your crimes even the perjury. We'll let it go as long as you tell us everything but then again would they do that because is he a credible witness is just going to say that he is the least credible mouth I have ever seen. Yeah no way. I don't believe any shit that comes in at thing. Yeah I'm almost like don't give him immunity just charge him with obstruction perjury. Yeah you tell the truth or we're going to get you for Lyon Bro. Yeah totally he definitely. I mean I can only imagine especially after going through him over the last however long go ahead I was just going to say. I can't imagine them not feeling about him. The way that they felt about Manafort as a witness when they sort of were like okay. No this is not yeah. Yeah we were like Flynn in the in the Be Junkie. He's he's not a cooperating witness anymore. Yeah aside from whom just confirming and creating the narratives that are already out there. Is there anything else that the Democrats could could hope to glean from him in terms of negotiation. Shen you know. Do you think there's anything else that they could get from your. He could say oh. I talked to trump a million times. Here's my call records. We talk all the time about a quid pro quo. We talk all the time about bribery. I was put in charge of making sure that Zilenski was down for this thing. And that you know I was dangling pence visit and I was dangling military aid javelin avalon's and all that he could he could come out with all that stuff. We know what happened. He's he could talk about what happened to the White House meetings and the gap between Von Miller. He could talk about anything like that. And and and say. Here's here's the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 'cause I don't WanNa be Roger Stone. What a change? That would be to see him go from when he did before to being like. This is everything. I don't have anything else. where he when his first testimony happened he seemed to Ed? According to sources inside the cavalier seem very above of it all very I'm a millionaire. You see what what are you going to do to me. And I. I really think that this if his if he's got a good lawyers that And he's Zillionaire. He should have good lawyers that this stone verdict is a stark reminder and really well-timed climbed by the way To to say hey you you're not above any of this and because you have hotels you're not above any of this because you don't need a million dollars to get this job job. You are as vulnerable to the law as anyone else's and the fact that the sentencing isn't going to happen until February sixth because because you know stone gets a year sounds like fuck it. I'll take a year but because the sentencing hasn't happened yet he's facing fifty fucking years in prison and that is just this got to be this weight on his advice counsel to be lightly because they don't know what stones going to end up with. Yeah Yeah I'm looking forward to money. Silence on on Wednesday right. It'll be interesting. We'll see if he's more humble or I bet we'll know from his attitude and his opening statement how it's going to go. Yeah except for that one. Yeah it is the right word. Yeah yeah sure yeah wait so sunlen is not had any Khan. He's not had any sort of like formal court proceedings. He's only just dealt with Congress at this point yes. Here's like nothing that's happened yet. That's been criminal in any other realm or whatever yet I know of. I don't know if he's been convicted. Hotel you're in his previous life. I assume not. Yeah but I wondered heard through all this. How many criminal referrals are gonNA come from Congress's investigation? Yeah and what bar does with them. Do they make them now or do they make them after two thousand twenty. Yeah be interesting to see We've got some new polling out of from Iowa and and some interesting things going on in the twenty twenty and Jordan. What do you have Yeah so new polling showing that Buddha judge is actually I in Iowa polling and he's sitting at twenty five percent which ages huge This is a poll at taken among likely Iowa caucus goers That sixteen point higher than he was in the September poll and Warrener's now at sixteen percent herself and Sanders and Biden are tied at fifteen percent and so- Sanders is actually up four points whereas Warren and Biden are down six six and five points respectively. So Pete's really astoundingly into lead right now go to where he was before and it it makes sense to to to the fact that he's been focusing a lot on Iowa he's been doing really well with independent voters there apparently and he is. He's invested a lot of time and energy on behalf half of his campaign in Iowa. So I guess that's a a sign in a signal to other DEM candidates if you want to win a state actually spending time time there and caring about their constituents makes a difference and he's a little more moderate and this week Obama came out and said some stuff about You know I know it kind of is annoying little annoyed by it. Yeah because it's I disagree with it mostly. Yeah Yeah Yes yes so. Obama made an appearance at this lake. Big donor vent And said that twenty twenty twenty Dem's need to not be to progressive essentially and that they need to be wary of becoming out of step with voters he says that voters are less revolutionary. Mary than they are interested in improvement And he warned that turning off certain segments of the electorate by not being Or that you might do might do that if you're not rooted in reality so he said this is a direct quote. This is still a country that has less revolutionary than it is interested in improvement. They like seeing things improved but the average generic doesn't think you have to completely tear down the system and remake it. I think it is important for us not to lose sight of that. I mean I don't burn the country down but also along the same lines. The the excitement is behind the progressive candidates and in general yes it's true in primaries. Aries you more progressive. You're more out toward the right or the left depending on whether you're Republican or Democrat and in general you have to come back to the center a little bit and that's just true true for everything. But did we need Obama to come out and say that in public also like the audacity of seriously to like to to to run on hope and change. Have your face plastered everywhere with words underneath it and then to come around like a decade later and be like but not too hopeful. I mean I don't know I mean that's the message you can certainly take action. He said I know progressive not to progressive. I I appreciate the sentiment intimate I I just don't get also I you would do it we're not it's not feeling revolutionary around here because has he spent any time on twitter. Well no I know. Actually the twitter APP said that liberal twitter is not how the rest of the world is that is true. That is a true statement. Yeah I people are our twitter is people live is a change though. Yeah I think It it's like it's kind of disheartening in the sense that the things that these crazy radical people are advocating for are really not that radical no. They're not they're really not they're only radical because our countries like done an awful job on notable friends. We saw that when I think it was Elizabeth Warren who one of the debates says. Why are you running for president? If you don't want any new big ideas I don't even I understand why you're and he got big applause from that and I feel like that is sort of an and I'll give this to you. I have a twitter bubble. I have a California bubble liberal bubble et Cetera et CETERA. You can pay myself with ninety different kinds of privilege and so I'm wondering am I. Only seeing it that way that that is what that's where the country is moving. But I feel like it is and I don't think that that would have been the case in two thousand sixteen. I don't think Hillary would come out for fifteen dollars. An hour minimum wage and thinking about Medicare for all had had the progressives aggressives and Bernie not pushed her to the left yeah Bernie pushed the entire discourse in the left and we have him to thank for that. Are you gonNA I read in the script. Are we talking about the fact that Michael Bloomberg Bloomberg has jumped into the race. This is very topical for. Were discussing right now. We can talk about that. I mean and we've Gone Bloomberg. Stop and Frisk Bloomberg and then. We've got develop Patrick Patrick and potentially Hillary I mean pillars. I hope that Bloomberg though I think brings her to what we're saying is that the donor class thinks that we we need in other billionaire. Exactly one hundred percent percents. I'm just GONNA say that. That is totally where their head is at their thinking. Oh Shit nobody in here. That's more the status quo and yeah didn't guy and he's not working out. It doesn't look. Yeah my advice for anyone thinking of joining the Democratic nomination for President Twenty Twenty. If you're not Michelle Obama don't Yeah Oh fuck. If she did that I I don't think and I'm not saying I think she well. She's his name rumored to nobody's even throw in the room out there. I'm just you're not Michelle. Obama don't bother please. Did edges justice creamed. It seems like a perfectly nice guy you know for in in in some ways I don't want to disparage him much without knowing a ton about him but I do know that he's not particularly Progressive Savannah can't imagine the people who are excited purpose of candidates falling behind him in any way very And he's also the stop and Frisk Guy. That's his deal. Yeah so I think it's say by but Warren has actually changed her. She did yes she released her Medicare health like a medicare for all revision to her plan. She really says on Friday. Basically basically the revision is she wouldn't make it mandatory it wouldn't be a mandate that everybody gets switched over into Medicare you'd still be able to keep your private option. She's backing off the you so you have to give up your private insurance..
"roger stone" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"He's fucked so defense for the witness. Intimidation with this was really weird. Moment in the closing arguments I think they were trying. Trying to defend with account of witnesses intimidation against Stone for how he treated Credit Co mentioning the Godfather a bunch of times. And trying to say I'll take take your dog. And and the defense attorney said stone and credit go have been tampering with each other for twenty years and that that sounds gross. And for me. This isn't just about being happy. Like I said that stone is going to prison which I I am. I'm exceedingly happy. Be about that. Sorry not sorry. It's again that facts matter. The truth matters and they matter so much like I said the jury didn't deliberate long and you can't lie to Congress and get away with it. That is a very clear message. It's a it's a win for Muller it's a win for the rule of law. It's a win for our country. It member that arc of justice. I said keep just you know. Keep the faith here here. We go these are rewards For for that patients and this is a big big thing yeah. I'm surprised that they came to that. That conclusion as a jury so quickly I was expecting it to take longer so was I. Yeah how long. I don't know I don't know what standard though for jury deliberations if it's like normal normal for to exceed more than a day it would be hard to put an average on it considering the scope of this case in that it involves the president and the Russia investigation and I think gets like it's just one of those standalone things really. That's how long it took. Yeah look at him it also documentation but also yeah. Look at him he does scream. I have fifty watches attached to the inside of my coat. uh-huh shirt that says and and like like you were saying Amanda this sends a clear message. Sunlen who has had already amend his testimony once and then based on testimony that came out this week he is already we know now that he did not testify about the call that he he had with trump And so he's going to have to make some more amended testimony We went over this in the more she read episode. But he's got a couple couple things he can do he can keep climbing. Keep lying And you know face them the Roger Stone Music or He can ask for an immunity deal. They can do that and Congress They can say look to. Just tell us everything we are going to prosecute you or he can plead the fifth and I think think I could come back and Samina plead the fifth and then he could be offered an immunity deal to say. Tell you what proffer you. We're not going to get you on any of your crimes even the perjury. We'll let it go as long as you tell us everything but then again would they do that because is he a credible witness is just going to say that he is the least credible mouth I have ever seen. Yeah no way. I don't believe any shit that comes in at thing. Yeah I'm almost like don't give him immunity just charge him with obstruction perjury. Yeah you tell the truth or we're going to get you for Lyon Bro. Yeah totally he definitely. I mean I can only imagine especially after going through him over the last however long go ahead I was just going to say. I can't imagine them not feeling about him. The way that they felt about Manafort as a witness when they sort of like okay. No this is not yeah. Yeah we were like Flynn in the in the Be Junkie. He's he's not a cooperating witness anymore. Yeah aside from whom just confirming and creating the narratives that are already out there. Is there anything else that the Democrats could could hope to glean from him in terms of negotiation Shen. You know there's anything else that they could get from your he could say oh. I talked to trump a million times. Here's my call records. We talk all the time about a quid pro quo. We talk all the time about bribery. I was put in charge of making sure that Zilenski was down for this thing. And that you know I was dangling pence visit and I was dangling military aid javelin avalon's and all that he could he could come out with all that stuff. We know what happened. He's he could talk about what happened to the White House meetings and the gap between Von Miller. He could talk about anything like that. And and and say. Here's here's the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 'cause I don't WanNa be Roger Stone. What a change? That would be to see him go from when he did before to being like. This is everything. I don't have anything else. where he when his first testimony happened he seemed to Ed? According to sources inside the receiver cavalier seem very above of it. All Very I'm a millionaire. You see what what are you going to do to me. And I. I really think that this if his if he's got a good lawyers that And he's Zillionaire. He should have good lawyers that this stone verdict is a stark reminder and really well-timed climbed by the way To to say hey you you're not above any of this and because you have hotels you're not above any of this because you don't need a million dollars to get this job job. You are as vulnerable to the law as anyone else's and the fact that the sentencing isn't going to happen until February sixth because because you know stone gets a year someone's like fuck it. I'll take a year but because the sentencing hasn't happened yet facing fifty fucking years in prison and that is just this got to be this weight on his advice counsel to be lightly because they don't know what stones going to end up with. Yeah Yeah I'm looking forward to money. Silence on on Wednesday right. It'll be interesting. We'll see if he's more humble or I bet we'll know from his attitude and his opening statement how it's going to go. Yeah except for that one. Yeah it is the right word. Yeah yeah sure yeah wait so sunlen is not had any Khan. He's not had any sort of like formal court proceedings. He's only just dealt with Congress at this point yes. Here's like nothing that's happened yet. That's been criminal in any other realm or whatever yet I know of. I don't know if he's been convicted. Hotel you're in his previous life. I assume not. Yeah but I wondered word through all this. How many criminal referrals are gonNA come from Congress's investigation? Yeah and what bar does with them. Do they make them now or do they make them after two thousand twenty. Yeah be interesting to see We've got some new polling out of from Iowa and and some interesting things going on in the twenty twenty and Jordan. What do you have Yeah so new polling showing that Buddha judge is I in Iowa polling and he's sitting at twenty five percent which ages huge This is a poll at taken among likely Iowa caucus goers That sixteen point higher than he was in the September poll and and Warren is now at sixteen percent herself and Sanders and Biden are tied at fifteen percent and so- Sanders is actually up four points whereas Warren and Biden are down six six and five points respectively. So Pete's really astoundingly into lead right now go to where he was before and it it makes sense to to to the fact that he's been focusing a lot on Iowa he's been doing really well with independent voters there apparently and he is. He's invested a lot of time and energy on behalf half of his campaign in Iowa. So I guess that's a a sign in a signal to other DEM candidates if you want to win a state actually spending time time there and caring about their constituents makes a difference and he's a little more moderate and this week Obama came out and said some stuff about You know I know it kind of is annoying little annoyed by it because it's I disagree with it mostly. Yeah Yeah Yes yes so. Obama made an appearance at this lake. Big donor vent And said that twenty twenty twenty Dem's need to not be to progressive essentially and that they need to be wary of becoming out of step with voters he says that voters are less revolutionary. Mary than they are interested in improvement And he warned that turning off certain segments of the electorate by not being Or that you might do might do that if you're not rooted in reality so he said this is a direct quote. This is still a country that has less revolutionary than it is interested in improvement. They like seeing things improved but the average generic doesn't think you have to completely tear down the system and remake it. I think it is important for us not to lose sight of that. I mean I don't burn the country down but also along the same lines. The the excitement is behind the progressive candidates and in general yes it's true in primaries. Aries you more progressive. You're more out toward the right or the left depending on whether you're Republican or Democrat and in general you have to come back to the center a little bit and that's just true true for everything. But did we need Obama to come out and say that in public also like the audacity of seriously to like to to to run on hope and change. Have your face plastered everywhere with words underneath it and then to come around like a decade later and be like but not too hopeful. I mean I don't know I mean that's the message you can certainly take action. He said I know progressive not to progressive. I I appreciate the sentiment intimate I I just don't get also I you would do it we're not it's not feeling revolutionary around here because has he spent any time on twitter. Well no I actually the twitter and said that liberal twitter is not how the rest of the world is that is true. That is a true statement. Yeah I people are our twitter is people live is to change though. Yeah I think It it's like it's kind of disheartening in the sense that the things that these crazy radical people are advocating for are really not that radical no. They're not they're really not they're only radical because our countries like done an awful job on notable friends. We saw that when I think it was Elizabeth Warren who one of the debates says. Why are you running for president? If you don't want any new big ideas I don't even I understand why you're and he got big applause from that and I feel like that is sort of an and I'll give this to you. I have a twitter bubble. I have a California bubble liberal bubble et Cetera et CETERA. You can pay myself with ninety different kinds of privilege and so I'm wondering am I. Only seeing it that way that that is what that's where the country is moving. But I feel like it is and I don't think that that would have been the case in two thousand sixteen. I don't think Hillary would come out for fifteen dollars. An hour minimum wage and thinking about Medicare for all had had the progressives aggressives and Bernie not pushed her to the left yeah Bernie pushed the entire discourse in the left and we have him to thank for that. Are you gonNA I read in the script. Are we talking about the fact that Michael Bloomberg Bloomberg has jumped into the race. This is very topical for. Were discussing right now. We can talk about that. I mean and we've Gone Bloomberg. Stop and Frisk Bloomberg and then. We've got develop Patrick Patrick and potentially Hillary I mean pillars..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"But isn't that even more the case for sixty votes? I think what we have got to do. I mean, you're asking a legitimate question. But I think that's get first things for us. Let's elected Democratic Senate. Let's make sure that many as possible off progresses. But this is what I believe. That's what I said a moment ago, we make change when millions of people demand that change. And I believe that when people stand up and fight back. Yes, you'll going to have the United States Congress slot listening to ordinary Americans rather than wealthy campaign contributors. All right, Senator Bernie Sanders Senator from Vermont. Thanks so much for taking time. I appreciate it. My pleasure. Next. Roger stone's dirty tricks catch up with him, again, the amazing scene that unfolded in court between the president's former political visor and a federal judge right after this. Roger stone is officially gagged that's pursuant to an order from judge. Amy Berman Jackson today in federal court a hearing called by the judge herself after notoriously publicity hungry. Trump advisor posted a picture of judge Jackson next to what appeared to be crosshairs dome. Was apologetic quite apologetic today in court, but the judge was not buying it. She alluded to the coast guard member who officials say compiled hitlist public officials and stockpile weapons saying you don't even have to look at the papers beyond today to know that inciting extremist violent action is a possibility. Judge Jackson also warned stone. This is his last chance before she revokes his bail sending him to jail quote today. I gave you a second chance. This is not baseball. You do not get a third chance discuss the judge's action today and what they might pretend. Roger stone wanna bring in to MSNBC legal analyst Paul Butler, prosecute worked in the department of Justice's public integrity unit on cases of public corruption, and Maya Wiley, the senior vice president. A social Justice at the new school. My the you don't see this often. But I guess you don't see people who are like Roger stone that often is very rare to have someone particularly someone who should be as knowledgeable, and who is well represented as Roger stone, literally threaten a federal judge. And that is what happened here and one of the things that we must focus in on his one. The judge was restrained. She clearly was concerned. But also really gave him the opportunity. She remember that prosecutors wanted him more gagged than she. Agreed the gag him. He can still talk about his innocence. He can still ask for donations for his legal defense. But it can't talk about the case. And what he posted, by the way. It wasn't just the crosshairs. I think it's really important to elevate that he talked about the Muller probe as the d. State and the reason that lends itself to being threatening particularly where he has named a federal judge as if she is not an unbiased and impartial. Jurist is that the deep state reference has caused people to go out and threaten the lives of others in the past particularly using the info wars platform, which Roger stone himself has used. So just go back to pizza gate and the guy who showed up with an assault rifle after pizza gate that he saw so it's not their radical. And she was both restrained. But also trying to protect both the integrity of the process. And he I think it was really interesting is he finally got that, you know, his dirty tricks as in I himself as a trickster his dirty tricks here, which he may not intend. We don't know what is intentional in terms of promotion of violence. Maybe it was just a better way to fundraise doesn't really matter. When people go. Out and actually commit violent acts because of what you said, you know, Paul I've seen a lot of I've seen immigration lawyers and public defenders defense attorneys weighing in today saying if my client was out on bail and then posted an image of the judge in the case with crosshairs, they're not getting a second chance. What do you think? Absolutely. I think the judge went to easy or verger stone. So Chris remember the FBI Ray with twenty nine armed agents this watt team, the assault rifle they justified that by saying this is a dangerous guy nontheless he got released on bail..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Take a listen. When the president answered the written interrogatory, he correctly and honestly said Roger stone, and I never discussed this. And we never did how does Roger stone? No with the president's enters the entire interrogatory because he's colluding. I mean, he's having conversations with the president and the president's legal team in what is arguably inappropriate because it's virtually target to target conversations which are at a minimum extremely unwise, and they will come back to haunt both the president and Roger stone. Why why is that extremely unwise because look when we look at these indictments the stone indictment, for example, I'll tell you Chris thirty years as a federal prosecutor, I've drafted more indictments than I can recall, but one thing I can tell you when we indict one person Roger stone, we do a relatively modest indictment. So for example, if Roger was Roger stone was indicted for a witness tampering. Charge. The indictment on that count would read something like on January first two thousand nineteen in the district of Columbia defendant. Roger stone tampered with a witness by trying to interfere with the witnesses truthful testimony before a preceding period what I have the Roger stone indictment. Chris is a conspiracy indictment. There's no conspiracy charge contained in it. But it sets out the misconduct and the complicity of so many other people of Coursey of credit go of Julian Assange and of senior Trump campaign officials, including somebody who directed a senior Trump campaign official to try to coordinate with stone to get even more damaging WikiLeaks information. Renou at this point where the the big question to me is always been that that day October seventh the tape comes out and then the WikiLeaks dump happens. And you know, I always say if you're a publisher that's a weird time to publish because you're publishing this enormous store. It's going to get swallowed up and it's a Friday which Tober seventh was wait till Monday. Why would you publish then? Right. But if you're trying to distract attention, if you're trying to do it makes a lot of sense. And we now have Coursey saying that stone was trying to shake the tree loose and the indictment says well done afterward. I think what it does is it shows the map of what is happening here. So I wish I could like Pulp Fiction draw shape in the air on your show, but I'm going to draw triangle, and here's what we know at the top of the triangle, the Russians we know they hacked into the DNC accounts. We know the hacked into John Podesta's accounts, we know they gave that to WikiLeaks. And it came out. We know the Russians spoke to the Trump campaign. We know those two legs the try what the stone indictment shows is this piece. That the Trump campaign was speaking WikiLeaks, and what was the benefit apparently as you said that that dump came out at a time that was strategically advantages for the campaign to squash the story of the access Hollywood tape, and there's also this question Glenn of of of superseding, indictments and duration that I wanna ask you as well that I just asked the congressman amidst all this talk about them, wrapping up the filings of the last two days the motion to delay this October. What do you think that says about where the investigation is? It seems to me there's still a lot of work to be done. And I know there's a good bit of reporting that perhaps a report is imminent, but let me tell you there is nothing mutually exclusive about future indictments and a report being offered around perhaps on a narrow issue more discrete issue, but to the to the sort of overall conspiracy, Chris I went back, and I pulled out the indictment of those twelve Russian military officers from July, and I keep in on one particular one particular passage. It's on page sixteen paragraph forty four for those of you scoring at home, and it talks about how the Russian co conspirators who were indicted in that case also communicated with US persons about the release of stolen documents, including a person who is in regular contact with senior members.
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"We've got some special counsel Muller indictments, what we need to do in the house is to have people under oath give testimony. We knew subpoenaed documents we create this record with these hearings. And then American people can decide laid later this year. What did they want to do? So has been made. I mean, those those those hearings that have those are not been noticed yet. Right. Yes. That is correct. Those hearings had not been noticed. The only hearings have been noticed our next week. We're gonna have a met Whitaker acting turn general come in on Friday. And we will question him while I was going to have hearings on HR eight a background checks Bill for gun. Let me ask you this about Whitaker. He said just a few days ago. It's wrapping up there's this sort of consensus. There's been reporting for my own news organisation, others that it is wrapping up and yet here you see the special counsel filing today saying we need to October. We need a lot of time to go through Roger stone. What do you what do you make of it? It was completely inappropriate for the acting general to say anything about ongoing criminal investigation and their reasons why you don't want to line on it because it sends all sorts of signals to potential targets or witnesses and as a process for impressive. I know that when you get new evidence, you might have to look at new leads, and it extends whatever your time line is. So they had have now years of evidence from Roger stone. Did they have to go through and terms of his communications? That's just gonna take some time in decker lead to additional witnesses additional leads. So I don't think this investigation is going to end anytime really soon, congressman Ted lieu, thank you very much. Thank you. Chris. Joining me now is in bassin former associate White House counsel present Barack Obama now the executive director, protect democracy, and Glenn Kirschner former. Stant US attorney for the district of Columbia on MSNBC legal analyst is latest piece titled Trump adviser. Roger stone's indictment in the Muller probe suggests conspiracy charges may still be forthcoming. I want to start with you, Glenn and on Roger stone. I wanna play this thing that I thought was very interesting about Rogers Roger stone being interviewed on Trump TV about his indictment on the day of his indictment. He says something that caught a lot of people's ears..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Roger stone was in DC today for what was otherwise a routine arraignment but outside the courthouse. It was chaos. Still supported by the proud boys. The violent far right group whose members beat up a bunch of people in New York and are being charged by the over it. They were chanting Roger stone. Did nothing wrong, which you know is trustworthy pronouncement from that crew while anti stone. Protesters creamed lock him up and blasted the Beatles back in the USSR, which I it's not quite right. But all the surreal circus that falls him stone is at least -ffected the air of thinks. It's all a joke. Despite the fact, he might die in prison. We maybe haven't seen all there is broader stone. A new report suggests that Robert Muller is perhaps preparing additional charges for the man who brags he has known Trump for forty years. Join me now Michael Isikoff chief investigative correspondent for Al news co author of Russian roulette the inside story of Putin's were on America and the election of Trump Michael that is the big question before us with the stone indictment is is. Is this the first part of what they have on him. Or is there more? Look, I I don't know. It's tantalizing the report that there might be more. But I suspect not. They spent Muller's people spent a lot of time on Roger stone. I mean more than a year questioning everybody who had contact with him going over, you know, hundreds if not thousands of emails and text messages they were clearly trying to prove more than what was in the indictment. There's there's a lot of meat in that indictment, especially on very damning evidence about his lies to congress. When he testified, particularly when he said, he had no emails or texts relating to his efforts to to learn about Julian Assange emails, obviously, not true and some of his thuggish tax to Randy credit co threatening him prepared to die. You're rat. Your stool, you know, all that was deserving of indictment. But you know, the goal that they were looking for was to show that. He really was in communication with Julian Assad as he publicly said, and you know, the fact is you look at the indictment, and they weren't able to remove that. But then hear the question becomes right? Why was he lying about all this? It just the whole thing is so bizarre. He's not just lying. He's commitments Roger start. But he's lies for a live. That's what he's done all his life, and he lies to congress, and he campers witnesses. Yeah. Look, I mean, I would think he would be able to turn that off. What is the point of everyone's lies about Russia? This is the question they all lie about Russia all the time. So what's the point in? Roger stone's case. He's he's playing a role. He's been playing a role all his professional life. All you gotta do is watch the Netflix film. I mean, you see, you know, who this guy is and he relishes it. And I think he's relishing it now whether he's thought through that this is going to end up. Him spending his life and the rest of his life in prison. I don't know. But he's clearly enjoying the limelight right now. There are some Texan involve you that. I wanted to get your your responses. So this is him. Texting critic. Oh, again, this plot is so bizarre and Byzantine basically tries to set up credit co is kind of back channel. Patsy. Even though it was actually Coursey, and then he wants credit go to stick to the story. When I tried to tell you last week, you said, you didn't believe it you've gone over the other side are now deep state stooge. He talks like this private, you should strap dynamite your body and invite Issakov for another dinner. It's the least you can do for your country. That's not very nice. What the heck is that about? Yeah. Well, that was Roger stone urging Rennie credit co to become a suicide bomber and blow me up. Look the context for that. And it really sets the context for a lot of the texts and emails that were in the indictment. This one was not. But it this was last January, and I was finishing up Russian roulette the book, I wrote with David corn and had interviewed credit co in which he. Spewed stones account of credit co being his back channel. So obviously, I had to go to stone for comment when I did stone went ballistic and begin sending these series of really vile against messages to Randy Credito threatening him..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Roger stone faces Justice as the president's Intel cheese face the Senate Donald Trump net privately with Ladimir Putin. And no one in the US government has the full story about what was discussed tonight yet. Another revelation of a private undisclosed Trump Putin meeting. Clearly, this is a sensitive issue. Plus new reporting suggesting Robert Muller is not done with Roger stone. Me down in order to take Donald Trump down as twenty twenty Democrats make their populist appeal. That's eliminate of that. Let's move on the billionaires by back. That's not correct. That's not American. I'm a little bit. Tired of listening to things that apply in the sky not one but two big announcements or Stacey Abrams. I promise you. We will get it done. When all in starts right now. Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes just a few weeks after the revelation that the president of the United States was suspected by his own government of working on Russia's behalf. We're learning tonight about yet another undisclosed exchange the president had with Letterman Putin. It was attended by new American notaires, no American interpreters, just the president and Milania and Putin and Putin's own interpreter. As we've noted before this is wildly out of step with the usual protocol. And if you were disposed to view it in the most stark and cynical terms, you might conclude that this is how the president meets with his handler. We knew the president had spoken briefly with Putin late last year to dinner during the G twenty summit Argentina the White House confirmed a quote, informal conversation, only after it was revealed by local press. But now the financial times reports counter was longer and more substantive than we've been led to believe sources telling the F T, the president was accompanied. By Melania, Trump, his wife, but no staff while Putin was flanked by his translator, the four of them set at table and were among the last to leave according to a Russian government officials account. The two leaders spoke for about fifty minutes about a number of foreign policy issues that undisclosed Shane came after the president had cancelled a form leading with Putin scheduled for the summit citing a Russian attack on Ukraine's navy just before the cancelling the president had been implicated as individual wanting core proceedings against Michael Cohen would reveal the talks about a tower project. Moscow had lasted much later into the presidential campaign than was previously ignored if the financial times Dory is accurate this meeting and Argentina was the second time. The President Putin had a private chat during a global summit, which was only exposed by independent reporting. After the fact the I was at the twenty seventeen summit in Germany where the president was caught on camera motioning somewhat desperately almost two Putin from across the dinner table. And that came just a few hours after the president seized his own interpreters notes from his formal sit down with Putin. According to wash imposed that of course, there was the one on one meeting in Helsinki with the president has own translator. But no staff meeting with Putin for hours behind closed doors, the president's own director of national intelligence admitted he did not know what went on. How do you have any idea? What happened in that meeting? You're right. I don't know what happened in that meeting. I think his time goes by Zarghee mentioned some things that happened in that beating I think we will learn more. But that is the president's perogative. If you'd asked me how that ought to. Be conducted. I would have suggested a different way Easter risk that Vladimir Putin could have recorded it. That risk is always there asked about those meetings at the Senate intelligence committee hearing today the deny hinted his response was classified director, hassle and director coats would this put you in a vantage position in terms of understanding Russia's efforts to advance its Genda against the United States. Senator clearly this is a sensitive issue. And it's an issue. We ought to talk about this afternoon, but for to discussing that in a closed session. Democratic Senator Mark Warner of Virginia is the vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee. He joins me. Now, Senator do you have concerns about this latest news about the president having yet another substantive conversation with buttery Putin without no takers without American translator. Well, I heard about that reporting. And of course, I'm interested today in our public hearing Senator Wyden, raise the issue of of the intelligence community ever gonna full read out frankly of even what happened in the Helsinki meeting between Mr..
"roger stone" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"Every Thursday and a subscription allows us to keep doing what we're doing. And now here's a portion of our conversation on cafe insider from cafe welcome to cafe insider. I'm pre- Berrara. And I'm an milk. I n how are you the Daikin morning so Thursday, we might have been wondering what exactly we would be talking about about mode doesn't disappoint on Friday. We were sure we had something to discuss. Roger stone's before we get to the substance of Roger stone. Can we discuss some one of the more interesting aspects of his person his personal tax on you? Well know that okay. I'm definitely going to get. I was gonna talk about his personal to oh. The Richard Nixon tattoo on his back. Do you have one of those? I do not you. I don't have any tattoos. I actually actually since this is the insider. Yes, I can confess that. I actually have a Millard Fillmore tat. That sounds great. I mean, it's not quite as large. Well, you just don't picture on cafe inside. I might. It's I haven't asked you where it is. Even upcoming to keep it up coming up the Padres. Luckily uses audio so he was indicted on seven counts. Yes. One count of obstruction? Viscounts of lying to congress the house intelligence committee and one count of witness tampering. So before we get to what some of the interesting aspects, are let's talk about what we think of the strength of the case. I think it's very strong. I it's unbelievably strong. And I mean, we we should talk about this. But if you look at the other charges that have been brought by the special counsel, for example, you know, the thousand one case that's brought against say popadopoulos or Michael Flynn. You sort of see there's often an allegation that someone said something untruthful at its it's one time, even when you say one thousand and one just to you know, this is a statute we talked about all the time eighteen USC thousand one making a false statement to law enforcement. Yes. And is one of the things that that that has been charged repeatedly in the Muller investigation. And we've seen multiple instances in some cases. But it's often someone lied about something very specific take Michael Cohen recently. For example, he pleaded guilty to lying to congress about the timing of the conversations about Trump Tower Moscow. The allegation there was he told congress that it ended in January twenty twenty sixteen when he later admitted that it went through at least June of two thousand sixteen that's one very, discreet thing. One of the things that is stunning about this indictment is that you have pages upon pages of lies and basic instances in which stone said that he either had no conversations with WikiLeaks or minimized his conversations with WikiLeaks and others related to the democratic hacks of the emails, and then you go through and sort of methodically. The special counsel's office saying that's not true, and here are and they're quoting, and I think that this is really important. They're quoting because it's not just that they have a witness on the other side who saying that's not true. They have actual they have a what's after they transfer. Exactly. They have they have a transcript from the house. They've got. And then they've got emails from stone. Text messages, what's apps, and basically is don't can say whatever he wants. But you know, the record doesn't lie right? And I should make clear for folk. That when I mentioned this down two thousand and one you can allege that when there's ally to along official and also as here, there's another aspect of it lying to congress. So he's actually charged with house and one multiple times in this indictment, and my my favorite, which I don't know how you escape this because one of the defenses to a false statement is that it was unintentional that you made a mistake or you forgot very hard to prove that sometimes because a busy CEO maybe testifies in a proceeding or makes his statements to along Forstmann agent. And maybe didn't remember particular Email that was from a year earlier a meeting that was two years earlier. And some of that was at issue when Jeff Sessions testified in connection with his confirmation hearing, what meetings did he have and also with respect to that Trump Tower famous meeting from the summer of two thousand sixteen but here in my favorite example, may I release. So this is paragraph thirty three on page sixteen of the indictment. We have the documents right here in front of us..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Personally, a politically. What is today mean? From your perspective today means that for the first time Robert Muller is pointing to probably the president as colluding with Russia in releasing those stolen documents. Roger stone is clearly named as the intermediary the conduit between Russia WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign, and it casts in very dangerous context the president. But also his son Donald Trump junior who came before a committee where I served judiciary committee and made some statements that are very very seriously in doubt as to their fullness. Now after some of what is in this indict, you think that the president's son John junior because of his testimony before the. History committee, then chaired at the time by cheer Grassley that that he made false statements. So that committee he has some explaining to do, and I think is truthfully. Very seriously in doubt as to some of the statements that he made about the Trump Tower meeting his father's knowledge of it. And about the statements also involving the WikiLeaks release of these documents and some of them are in this Roger stone indictment, but he needs to be called back to the judiciary committee. I've asked the new chairman Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina to do. So if necessary by subpoena, I think it should be done. Alright Senator Richard Blumenthal. Thank you for being with me tonight coming up between the shutdown cave and the indictment of long time. Confidante just how politically damaged the president after today next. He'll caught y'all off Obama solicitor general on what the stone indictment means Donald Trump..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"The work of the grand jury, and this is a statement of the United States that there was coordination by Roger stone between the Trump campaign. Pain and Russian activity in the two thousand election two thousand sixteen election. Marcy, one of the things that's striking to me. Is you have stone sort of scampering around trying to get to WikiLeaks in the indictment. If you have he's this. This is a Coursey this courses in an interview. But it sort of part of the vitamin he said that stone claim to advance knowledge the Billy Bush tape, and that the GOP operative told him if you have any way to get to start dropping tell him to start dumping, right? So he's he's trying to coordinate these leaks. And then we get him on the backside trying to cover up and lie about it before congress. But the actual thing in the middle, right? Which is was there an actual backchannel? Did they affectively coordinate that is not in there? What do you think about that missing part of this? There are few other missing parts, for example. There's no explicit reference to technolo- to Nigel Farraj, we know that Roger stone was meeting had meetings with both of them in that time period. We don't like I've shown that the themes that Corsi and stone were pushing in August, particularly argument about pedestrian having ties to Russia. Those started coming out from Coursey and stone before the emails started dropping October. So you would think. Yeah. I mean, the evidence is there suggest that's where they're going. Maybe that's what the FBI spend hours looking for and Rogers homes today to see whether they had those pedestrian emails in some form that that didn't come via WikiLeaks. I am one of the points. I made later in the day is Roger stone was willing to go to great links to set up these cover stories inside cover stories inside cover stories, but what he didn't do according to our Cording to the is delete these emails delete these texts that showed him collecting. So that says, you know, this guy who has spent his entire life doing cover up. Ups didn't do the most basic thing to engage in a cover-up. So there's probably a lot more in its homes that now now's than the FBI's possession. There's also the fact that this now brings us to we have Michael Cohen who's pleaded to a number of crimes lying to congress. Also campaign finance violations that he says was directed by the president Michael Flynn has pleaded George popadopoulos has pleaded Paul Manafort convicted Rick gates, and now Roger stone indicted. It is when you take a step back and think about the circle around this man, the president and his campaign and the criminality in evidence of those people it's something to contemplate it. It's amazing. And you haven't mentioned his national security adviser. And you haven't mentioned his campaign aide. George Papadopoulos, both of whom pled guilty to lying about contacts with Russian officials or. Russian intelligence cut out. And so I I think when you when you draw the circle around who were the people close to Trump in the campaign period and the transition period. And then you start crossing off the ones who have pled guilty to things or who have been indicted for things you end up with you end up with a sharply diminished pool and the closer people are the more likely they are to have problems, and that does suggest a kind of tightening of the circle closing of the ring. Whatever metaphor you want to use that has to concern if you thinking about it carefully of reading them thinking who did direct to do that. I think maybe MARCY Wheeler and Ben with us. Thank you. Both. Joining now is Harry Littman. Former deputy assistant attorney general contributing columnist washing post and Mimi Rocca assistant US attorney in the southern district of New York MSNBC legal analyst, Harry let me start with you on was directed which strikes me as the most flashing neon sign in the indictment and also the most legal significance for the president. I'll read this again..
"roger stone" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"But I can assume they're all things that post date the Muller investigation. In other words, investigators came to Roger stone, and he allegedly told them false statements. He obstructed Justice under any of number of obstruction statutes, and he may have persuaded another witness to give false testimony what you can expect from the Trump side is going to be that this isn't Tirlian product of the special counsel investigation. These are crimes that were created by the investigation once the DOJ and US attorneys. Parched over these statements and found anything false in them that they could. That's what I expect to be the Trump, and Roger stone defense to these charges, and it's an interesting thing because that indictment it'll be interesting to see whether it contains any charges that predate the Muller investigations. That's something. The Trump team will seize upon. Well, Danny this is in Dighton it right at the top during the summer of twenty six stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about organization one and information might have had that would be damaging to the Clinton campaign. So this is connecting Roger stone to organization wine, which I I'm only scanning through this. But I speculate that that's probably WikiLeaks and Trump's senior campaign officials. So this is a link between WikiLeaks the hack and Trump campaign officials and isn't that fascinating? Because it's another example of what we call. Speaking indictments indictments just need to be a bare bones recitation. Effects just enough to get over that probable cause hump. So when you see this level of detail. This is the Muller team. This is the DOJ the US attorneys who are indicting these characters it's their opportunity to speak in the event that this report that we're all waiting on. Never sees the light of day they will chronicle what they did through their indictment, and you'll notice that and I'm expecting that the indictment doesn't charge any actual conduct in twenty sixteen. But rather the lying about or the obstruction of Justice win that conduct was later investigated by the Muller team again. I haven't had an opportunity this breaking news indictment, but I expect that's what we're going to see any this has been rumored for a while. As you watch Muller put the pieces together, why stone today versus a month ago versus a month from now. That's something that that's a strategic decision by the special counsel's office. Humane wide in today. I'm not saying, but right now in other words, this could have happened in month ago. This could have in two months ago as you see him put the pieces together. Is there anything that jumps out that this is happening now because most likely the Muller team is choosing to indict when they do in order to keep things confidential right up until the last possible minute. There must be some strategic decision in indicting, Roger stone. Now, when they could have as you said exactly indicted him months ago, but perhaps if they had it would make public these facts, and it might scare off other targets other witnesses and other subjects in the investigation. That's something that the DOJ and the US attorney's must keep in mind. Win investigating to only release this information when they absolutely have to in other words in in the event, they might scare off other individuals. Julia Ainsley I'm looking through this indictment as you are as well. What else are you seeing as you read it? So I I just want to correct one thing that I said about his affiliation with the campaign. He. He was an official that campaign up until August of twenty fifteen that would be over a year before the election. But then he says that he maintained close contact with imported to me, I think is the the fact that they want to show his relationship with the campaign, and especially right here. When you go down to paragraph five stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases by organization one that can be assumed to be WikiLeaks. The fact that he was contacted by Trump campaign officials so just that Muller has been using stone. Just as we thought he was to find out the coordination between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks, it's spelled out here. And I'm looking here. Oh, I'm looking Danny just as I read through this. We've got one kind of obstruction one kind of witness tampering five counts of making false statements. Roger stone has been served dismissive of his role in all this..
"roger stone" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"The hacking or collusion, and it could be something in his past, and that's what Andrew Miller might know about Davis Davidson here quite close. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Was she around while you were filling the film? Yes, actually kind of the the film before the film, if you will, we followed her twenty thirteen cultural or run where she was actually running against Eliot Spitzer who's trying to make a political comeback at the time. The campaign fizzled out because she got in stared in FBI sting and was arrested for selling prescription drugs. So that was her second time in prison, and she didn't get out of prison until I think it was may of twenty sixteen so so her sort of knowledge of of working for Roger isn't really time of the Trump campaign. Whereas with Andrew Millar, he was brought back into the fold around around the time the RMC he was with Roger in Cleveland and and certainly was working for him the months after that there sort of in question, you know, one thing bednets writing is you've got Muller having referred some cases. We know he's referred lack of Fara registration of a number of folks at work in DC that aren't Paul Manafort to US attorneys. We know he's referred out the Michael Cohen matter to the southern district this he has not referred out. I mean, this is this is the Muller grand jury that is looking at stone. Yeah, I think that's right. And. I think the reason for that is pretty clear, which is that. You know, if you look at the GR you the hacking indictment. The link to Roger stone is the collusion stuff right? And the the heart of the Muller investigation is the question of coordination between the Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election and anybody associated with the Trump campaign. The person who is most clearly identified with that in the document itself is Roger stone. And so I think this is the most public aspect we have other than the Trump Tower meeting of what is really the heart and soul of the Mueller investigation. It's great point, and I keep coming back to the fact they mention how often he's in contact with senior campaign officials in the indictment of the Russian officials just a few weeks ago tomorrow and Ben witness, great to have you both. From one of the possible legal jeopardy facing Roger soon on joined by Paul Butler and Mimi Rocca both former federal prosecutors, current NS NBC legal analyst. Let me start with you on a play you Andrew Miller's lawyer. Andrew Miller is being represented by sort of conservative action. We're going that clearly is sort of taking him on as kind of cause in the broader assault on the Muller investigation. Here's what he had to say. Vision. Challenging fusion with special counsel. This is. On the..
"roger stone" Discussed on The New Washington
"But they're not getting anything personnel on tuesday alberto the alternative to the strategy ice outlined which is trump and the republicans have failed and you have to wear their failure why should he do that he's not a is not establishment republican anyway so thank you i want to end on a loyalty question sis clearly something trump values almost above all other things in his advisors are you loyal to me when you look at the relationship between roger stone and donald trump how do you view stones actions as examples of loyalty or betrayals of that loyalty and and what might that say about his ongoing role in trump's inner circle as somebody who influences him look i think that one of the things that um trump sees as a form of loyalty is durability and stone has been around a very very long time for trump a lot of people in trump's world slide in an out stone is a as i said always there in some form or another um they might be arguing about something they might be disagreeing they might be having one of their public spats which they've had repeatedly one of the weird things about loyalty with trump as he he always kind of wants what he doesn't completely have and you are never more valuable to donald trump than when you're walking away from him so the fact that stone has this sort of half distance half in half out will always always always keep him pretty close and he knows a lot about trump that also um nixed trump want to keep people close.
"roger stone" Discussed on The New Washington
"Too many generals first of all i need seven days in may is all about a military coup village and uh you know that's not what stone was referring to explicitly in that quote that i have to imagine that he was aware of the double meaning when he senate i would imagine that that is part of his concern and i just think the president has unfortunately surrounded himself with the number of globalists' who don't share his world view and you say lisa globalist what exactly do you mean uh those who think that the sovereignty of the united states's secondarily loo we need to move into some kind of international arrangement in which we just accept the inevitable decline of our country maggie roger stone is pretty explicit and our conversation in his fear that then in the nationalist war against the globalists' in this white house that the globalists' are winning so who are the globalism this white house and are they winning as roger stone fears sure i mean like the word the term globalist is um you know it's used on breitbart dot com i'm steven its website with like big bright globes um bright eight in its most negative connotation i think it's critics believe that it's got a it's got a bit of an anti semitic patina um i think other people disagree with that dan it's you know that the targets for the people who are seen as clinical globalists' spice john and a lot of stance supporters are gary cohn the top economic advisor uh dina powell who is a deputy national security adviser how do you justify dina habib paul being in the trump white house why do you say her mental name like them well because that's her name.